Caylee Anthony, Part II

[desmom]

Casey Anthony expressed little interest in Caylee, cop interviews show
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-090509090509sep05,0,5074311.story

New evidence reveals Casey Anthony loves publicity, lies constantly, but still likable
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d5-New-evidence-reveals-Casey-Anthony-loves-publicity-lies-constantly-but-still-likable

[desmom]

Casey's behavior during the 31 days before Caylee was reported missing and her behavior after she was released on bond will have a huge impact on the jury.

Yes, JB can explain he told her not to talk to anyone when she was released, but her conversations about the shovel and stating other people had access to her car when it was announced signs of decomp in the trunk will show other wise.

jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Casey Anthony expressed little interest in Caylee, cop interviews show
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-090509090509sep05,0,5074311.story

New evidence reveals Casey Anthony loves publicity, lies constantly, but still likable
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d5-New-evidence-reveals-Casey-Anthony-loves-publicity-lies-constantly-but-still-likable

She spends most of the time talking about herself, showing no concern for missing Caylee, but yet still comes off as "likable"??? Though I wish she had spent more time with Tracy, she might have revealed more without realizing it, like when she mentioned chloroform.

[desmom]

She spends most of the time talking about herself, showing no concern for missing Caylee, but yet still comes off as "likable"??? Though I wish she had spent more time with Tracy, she might have revealed more without realizing it, like when she mentioned chloroform.

Casey reminds me of a con man or should I say woman. Eager to please and wants to be your best friend while reaching in your back pocket for your wallet. She finds their vulnerable spot and uses it to her advantage. i.e. Amy's rental was sold, she had no place to live...Casey to the rescue with her Mom is giving me the house so you can live with Caylee and me story. She gained Amy's trust, Amy loaned Casey her car, Casey helped herself to Amy's checkbook ... oh and probably the $400 Amy "put away while she was sleep walking" per Casey.

Casey's overall attitude about everything seems to be "what is in it for me".

jmo

[Holden]

After listening to all the tapes, I can understand why Baez tried so hard to keep them out. They are totally damning. I am wondering, not for the first time, how he is going to defend her. casey is unable to see herself or her actions in any sensible way. She kept changing her story to R Dick until there were 3 separate stories - ZFG took the baby after casey dropped her off on her way to work :tongueside: casey was held down in B park while ZFG and Samantha made off with baby Caylee. :sneaky: Then, finally, and I think this is her worst scenario - Jessee/Tony/Amy and everyone at Fusion got together and took Caylee. casey simply has no morals, was never made to face her lies and manipulations. All this allows her to throw scenarios against the wall like spaghetti, hoping 1 sticks. She doesn't care which one. If Tony or Jesse were somehow convicted, she'd just grin, wiggle that sizable butt and waltz out of jail. She would not give it a second thought.

Caylee does not enter her mind during this time because after she murdered the baby, she simply erased her from her mind. And she sure wishes everyone else would, too. She is a soul-less woman. :sad:

[Scampi]

Casey Anthony expressed little interest in Caylee, cop interviews show
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-090509090509sep05,0,5074311.story

New evidence reveals Casey Anthony loves publicity, lies constantly, but still likable
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d5-New-evidence-reveals-Casey-Anthony-loves-publicity-lies-constantly-but-still-likable

Morning everyone, thanks for all the great links Des!

Well, I finally put on earbuds and listened to Tracy and Robs interviews with my eyes closed. Wow!

I think Tracy was just nonplussed at how utterly transparent Casey Anthony was and her laughter was indicative of how ridiculous she thought casey was in the things she said and did.

I didn't catch the date of Tracy's interview, one hopes it was before Caylee's remains were found. If not, her comment that casey is likable is very disturbing to me. Lyon will be looking for 12 people just like Tracy to put on that jury, people who will excuse what the OC did, because they "like" her. I know it's a long shot, but I'm still concerned. spector one is still fresh to me.

Oh, and lee knows way more then he has revealed, imo.

[desmom]

Morning everyone, thanks for all the great links Des!

Well, I finally put on earbuds and listened to Tracy and Robs interviews with my eyes closed. Wow!

I think Tracy was just nonplussed at how utterly transparent Casey Anthony was and her laughter was indicative of how ridiculous she thought casey was in the things she said and did.

I didn't catch the date of Tracy's interview, one hopes it was before Caylee's remains were found. If not, her comment that casey is likable is very disturbing to me. Lyon will be looking for 12 people just like Tracy to put on that jury, people who will excuse what the OC did, because they "like" her. I know it's a long shot, but I'm still concerned. spector one is still fresh to me.

Oh, and lee knows way more then he has revealed, imo.


LE went to CA in September 2008 to interview LP and Team. There was a lot of speculation while LE was in CA they would also visit Mark Hawkins in Twentynine Palms.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17509745/detail.html

ETA ~ I agree with your take on Tracy. I think she handled herself rather well. If a 22 year old asked me to put a wrist watch on my ankle so we would have matching ankle bracelets, I would think she was nuts. I am guessing Tracy went along with it hoping Casey would open up to her with the truth. Casey and the truth in the same sentence. :lol:

jmo

[Scampi]

LE went to CA in September 2008 to interview LP and Team. There was a lot of speculation while LE was in CA they would also visit Mark Hawkins in Twentynine Palms.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17509745/detail.html

ETA ~ I agree with your take on Tracy. I think she handled herself rather well. If a 22 year old asked me to put a wrist watch on my ankle so we would have matching ankle bracelets, I would think she was nuts. I am guessing Tracy went along with it hoping Casey would open up to her with the truth. Casey and the truth in the same sentence. :lol:

jmo

Thanks Des, I am very relieved this was before Caylee was found. I wonder how old Tracy is, she sounded like she could be late 30's early 40's to me.

I agree with those saying casey is a con artist, a user of other people. What she did to Amy was heartless.

Poor Caylee never had a chance in that hell house and I believe cindy and george were very much aware of the danger Caylee was in for those outrageous 31 days. How they can now stand by this suspected murderer is unfathomable to me.

None of them have souls, imo. :angry:

[Deannalynn]

LE went to CA in September 2008 to interview LP and Team. There was a lot of speculation while LE was in CA they would also visit Mark Hawkins in Twentynine Palms.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17509745/detail.html

ETA ~ I agree with your take on Tracy. I think she handled herself rather well. If a 22 year old asked me to put a wrist watch on my ankle so we would have matching ankle bracelets, I would think she was nuts. I am guessing Tracy went along with it hoping Casey would open up to her with the truth. Casey and the truth in the same sentence. :lol:

jmo


I seriously thought about this. I have an 11 year old granddaughter. I tried to put her in Casey's place mentally. Okay, I could see my granddaughter playing a game and asking me to do this.
Then I imagined my "normal" 11 year old granddaughter being 22 years old, no way...
jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Casey reminds me of a con man or should I say woman. Eager to please and wants to be your best friend while reaching in your back pocket for your wallet. She finds their vulnerable spot and uses it to her advantage. i.e. Amy's rental was sold, she had no place to live...Casey to the rescue with her Mom is giving me the house so you can live with Caylee and me story. She gained Amy's trust, Amy loaned Casey her car, Casey helped herself to Amy's checkbook ... oh and probably the $400 Amy "put away while she was sleep walking" per Casey.

Casey's overall attitude about everything seems to be "what is in it for me".

jmo

Or trying to convince Amy she changed her pants in her sleep. I wonder if she ever drugged Amy?

[Barbara fl.]

After listening to all the tapes, I can understand why Baez tried so hard to keep them out. They are totally damning. I am wondering, not for the first time, how he is going to defend her. casey is unable to see herself or her actions in any sensible way. She kept changing her story to R Dick until there were 3 separate stories - ZFG took the baby after casey dropped her off on her way to work :tongueside: casey was held down in B park while ZFG and Samantha made off with baby Caylee. :sneaky: Then, finally, and I think this is her worst scenario - Jessee/Tony/Amy and everyone at Fusion got together and took Caylee. casey simply has no morals, was never made to face her lies and manipulations. All this allows her to throw scenarios against the wall like spaghetti, hoping 1 sticks. She doesn't care which one. If Tony or Jesse were somehow convicted, she'd just grin, wiggle that sizable butt and waltz out of jail. She would not give it a second thought.

Caylee does not enter her mind during this time because after she murdered the baby, she simply erased her from her mind. And she sure wishes everyone else would, too. She is a soul-less woman. :sad:



Very well put, especially your summation of Casey.....

[Deannalynn]

Thanks Des, I am very relieved this was before Caylee was found. I wonder how old Tracy is, she sounded like she could be late 30's early 40's to me.

I agree with those saying casey is a con artist, a user of other people. What she did to Amy was heartless.

Poor Caylee never had a chance in that hell house and I believe cindy and george were very much aware of the danger Caylee was in for those outrageous 31 days. How they can now stand by this suspected murderer is unfathomable to me.

None of them have souls, imo. :angry:

I can hear Cindy now and months before. "We lost our granddaughter, she's gone and there's nothing we can do to get her back. I am not about to lose my daughter." (without any thought/reality how she lost her granddaughter)
Cindy has a major abandonment problem, I believe. That's why she has to have complete control of George and the kids. She has something wicked in her past growing up and I sure would like to know how it came about that she raised her children the way she was raised.
jmo

[Barbara fl.]

What I do not understand is how Casey (after saying that Zanny was a perfect 10), I believe that Cindy described her as 5'7" perfect body...etc., etc., can now claim that this perfect 10 was able to get Casey in a head lock and hold her down while Caylee was taken from her....I would think that after she described Zanny to be the exact same size as herself was able to overpower her and take her daughter...Did Casey ever say what she was doing while this was being done to her?.....

It is the same BS story as far fetched as all the others....this family thinks that everyone is stupid and they are smart.....they are really self impressed with their non existant intelligence....total idiots...:cursing:

[Sun]

LE went to CA in September 2008 to interview LP and Team. There was a lot of speculation while LE was in CA they would also visit Mark Hawkins in Twentynine Palms.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17509745/detail.html

ETA ~ I agree with your take on Tracy. I think she handled herself rather well. If a 22 year old asked me to put a wrist watch on my ankle so we would have matching ankle bracelets, I would think she was nuts. I am guessing Tracy went along with it hoping Casey would open up to her with the truth. Casey and the truth in the same sentence. :lol:

jmo

Good morning everyone. I'd love to see all those txtmsgs between Tracy and Rob/etc. during those nine days. It's too bad that LE didn't include any of those (maybe Tracy didn't offer them). I had hoped that LP would put a more professionally trained person inside that house with Casey. I cannot imagine being put into that household with all those Anthonys, though. I expected Tracy to have more to say in regards to the family dynamics and happenings. Maybe she did, and I just missed it.

I need to rest up these next two days so that I can make it through the next two Civil Case court hearings this Tuesday and Wednesday. This last doc dump was a setback to my recovery, and I fear that I missed much in listening to the interviews. I'm going to have to go back and re-listen when I feel a bit stronger/sharper.

[msgatorslayer]

After listening to all the tapes, I can understand why Baez tried so hard to keep them out. They are totally damning. I am wondering, not for the first time, how he is going to defend her. casey is unable to see herself or her actions in any sensible way. She kept changing her story to R Dick until there were 3 separate stories - ZFG took the baby after casey dropped her off on her way to work :tongueside: casey was held down in B park while ZFG and Samantha made off with baby Caylee. :sneaky: Then, finally, and I think this is her worst scenario - Jessee/Tony/Amy and everyone at Fusion got together and took Caylee. casey simply has no morals, was never made to face her lies and manipulations. All this allows her to throw scenarios against the wall like spaghetti, hoping 1 sticks. She doesn't care which one. If Tony or Jesse were somehow convicted, she'd just grin, wiggle that sizable butt and waltz out of jail. She would not give it a second thought.

Caylee does not enter her mind during this time because after she murdered the baby, she simply erased her from her mind. And she sure wishes everyone else would, too. She is a soul-less woman. :sad:

G'morning, all!

I haven't listened to Rob D's interview yet. This is the first I've heard of her telling anyone that her friends and the Fusion gang got together and took Caylee. I know Cindy has suggested her friends, but, c'mon!!

I'm gonna have to listen to his interview today. Think I'll try Cindy's again too. I'll listen while I'm cleaning house and away from the puter. Gave me a headache when I tried last time.

ITA that Casey doesn't care who goes down for the crime as long as she walks free.

[msgatorslayer]

What I do not understand is how Casey (after saying that Zanny was a perfect 10), I believe that Cindy described her as 5'7" perfect body...etc., etc., can now claim that this perfect 10 was able to get Casey in a head lock and hold her down while Caylee was taken from her....I would think that after she described Zanny to be the exact same size as herself was able to overpower her and take her daughter...Did Casey ever say what she was doing while this was being done to her?.....

It is the same BS story as far fetched as all the others....this family thinks that everyone is stupid and they are smart.....they are really self impressed with their non existant intelligence....total idiots...:cursing:

I just remember George suggesting that Casey could have been knocked on the head and has amnesia unable to remember, :lol:.

Because he knows she's a good Mom who would fight for her Daughter and his proposed scenerio is the only way he can see anyone getting away with Caylee.

[Barbara fl.]

I can hear Cindy now and months before. "We lost our granddaughter, she's gone and there's nothing we can do to get her back. I am not about to lose my daughter." (without any thought/reality how she lost her granddaughter)
Cindy has a major abandonment problem, I believe. That's why she has to have complete control of George and the kids. She has something wicked in her past growing up and I sure would like to know how it came about that she raised her children the way she was raised.
jmo

Under normal circumstances (and even non normal circumstances) it is totally normal for a parent to stand by their child no matter what they did.....BUT NOT COVER UP......Susan Smiths mother and entire family are a perfect example of how a parent should react at something like this...They stood by their daughter and asked for forgiveness for her....

This family has totally forgotten about Caylee and they only bring her up when it is convenient for them.....i.e. when being questioned at the depo by Morgan....George diverted the conversation by bringing Caylee up.....Cindy, bringing up that she just lost her granddaughter (not to answer questions)...it seems that the only time they bring up Caylee's name is when it serves a purpose for them.....even at Caylee's memorial...her name was brought up by Cindy to say that her MOTHER loved her very much.....I have never heard Caylee being brought up by the Anthony's other then when it was to be self serving.....

It is for that, that I am so against this family....not for standing by their daughter (that's normal)....it's the how they are standing by their daughter by trying to cover up.....

If when all is done and when Casey is found guilty and the penalty phase comes in, I wouldn't put it past Cindy to say that the migigating circumstances were that Caylee was a bad child and hard for anyone to cope with......thus trying to justify why her daughter lost control and killed her......jmo

[Barbara fl.]

I just remember George suggesting that Casey could have been knocked on the head and has amnesia unable to remember, :lol:.

Because he knows she's a good Mom who would fight for her Daughter and his proposed scenerio is the only way he can see anyone getting away with Caylee.


I could see that as well, but then how does Cindy or George explain why Cindy was trying to gain custody of Caylee...no mother would try and get custody of their grandchild if "MOMMY" was a good mother....

I wonder if Cindy's co workers are going to be called as witnesses? I think they will really come in handy as to how Cindy was talking about her own daughter prior to this happening...

[msgatorslayer]

I could see that as well, but then how does Cindy or George explain why Cindy was trying to gain custody of Caylee...no mother would try and get custody of their grandchild if "MOMMY" was a good mother....

I wonder if Cindy's co workers are going to be called as witnesses? I think they will really come in handy as to how Cindy was talking about her own daughter prior to this happening...

"Explain", thats the problem with the Anthony's. They've all TALKED way to much trying to explain everything away that they've talked themselves into a huge web. One that they will not be able to talk their way out of, IMO.

I believe Cindy's co-workers will be called to testify. Especially if, on the stand, Cindy talks all about Casey being a great person and Mother.

[Scampi]

G'morning, all!

I haven't listened to Rob D's interview yet. This is the first I've heard of her telling anyone that her friends and the Fusion gang got together and took Caylee. I know Cindy has suggested her friends, but, c'mon!!

I'm gonna have to listen to his interview today. Think I'll try Cindy's again too. I'll listen while I'm cleaning house and away from the puter. Gave me a headache when I tried last time.

ITA that Casey doesn't care who goes down for the crime as long as she walks free.


Morning msgator! I especially liked Rob's interview and how he and Tracy pinpointed when and why casey and the anthonys went from the Sawgrass/blanchard park nonsense to finger pointing at Jesse, Ricardo and Amy. It was when the evidence of the decomposition in the trunk was made public. There is no doubt in my mind that cindy, george and lee know casey murdered Caylee, they simply do not care that she did.

:mad:

[msgatorslayer]

Under normal circumstances (and even non normal circumstances) it is totally normal for a parent to stand by their child no matter what they did.....BUT NOT COVER UP......Susan Smiths mother and entire family are a perfect example of how a parent should react at something like this...They stood by their daughter and asked for forgiveness for her....

This family has totally forgotten about Caylee and they only bring her up when it is convenient for them.....i.e. when being questioned at the depo by Morgan....George diverted the conversation by bringing Caylee up.....Cindy, bringing up that she just lost her granddaughter (not to answer questions)...it seems that the only time they bring up Caylee's name is when it serves a purpose for them.....even at Caylee's memorial...her name was brought up by Cindy to say that her MOTHER loved her very much.....I have never heard Caylee being brought up by the Anthony's other then when it was to be self serving.....

It is for that, that I am so against this family....not for standing by their daughter (that's normal)....it's the how they are standing by their daughter by trying to cover up.....

If when all is done and when Casey is found guilty and the penalty phase comes in, I wouldn't put it past Cindy to say that the migigating circumstances were that Caylee was a bad child and hard for anyone to cope with......thus trying to justify why her daughter lost control and killed her......jmo

Oh my, Barbara!! That is sick and right up the Anthony alley. I do hope that Lion's and team would explain to them that they do not want to inflame the jury by saying such a thing. Casey's life is in their hands now, they've already convicted her.

[desmom]

What I do not understand is how Casey (after saying that Zanny was a perfect 10), I believe that Cindy described her as 5'7" perfect body...etc., etc., can now claim that this perfect 10 was able to get Casey in a head lock and hold her down while Caylee was taken from her....I would think that after she described Zanny to be the exact same size as herself was able to overpower her and take her daughter...Did Casey ever say what she was doing while this was being done to her?.....

It is the same BS story as far fetched as all the others....this family thinks that everyone is stupid and they are smart.....they are really self impressed with their non existant intelligence....total idiots...:cursing:

But no one can agree on the description of Zanny.

George's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/George%20Anthony%20Deposition.pdf
Number one is the Zanny that my daughter described to me is 24 to 25 years old, about 5 foot 7, 125, 130 pounds. She had straight white teeth, long brown hair. On a scale of one to ten, she's a ten, supposedly.

Cindy's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
pages 63-64 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Cindy%20Anthony%20Deposition%20April%209.pdf
Cindy describing the Zanny at the depo:
She not 25 years old. She's not five foot seven. She's not 140 pounds. She doesn't have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a ten.

Casey's handwritten statement to LE dated 7/16/08 page 30 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5 foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown curly hair, and brown eyes.

page 83 of Casey's interview with LE 7/16/08 0411 hours at Hopespring drivehttp://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.

On December 4, 2008, NG played a clip from a jail visit. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/04/ng.01.html (Note: Casey says she has shoulder length hair and wears it straight. Cindy responds with "it's curly" and Casey agrees. Did Casey forget the script and Cindy corrected her?)
Cindy: We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.

Casey: Shoulder length. She wears it straight.

Cindy: It's curly.

Casey: It's curly, but she also wears it straight. (Inaudible) it's called a straightener. She's the one that gave me my straightener.

Cindy: That's true. OK. How tall is she?

Casey: About 5, 7-ish. She's, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes, no tattoos that I've ever seen, that I know of.

[desmom]

Good morning everyone. I'd love to see all those txtmsgs between Tracy and Rob/etc. during those nine days. It's too bad that LE didn't include any of those (maybe Tracy didn't offer them). I had hoped that LP would put a more professionally trained person inside that house with Casey. I cannot imagine being put into that household with all those Anthonys, though. I expected Tracy to have more to say in regards to the family dynamics and happenings. Maybe she did, and I just missed it.

I need to rest up these next two days so that I can make it through the next two Civil Case court hearings this Tuesday and Wednesday. This last doc dump was a setback to my recovery, and I fear that I missed much in listening to the interviews. I'm going to have to go back and re-listen when I feel a bit stronger/sharper.

I bet the text messages between Tracy and Rob would be an interesting read.

Take it easy Sun. We do not need you back pedalling on getting better.

[Postergeist]

Morning msgator! I especially liked Rob's interview and how he and Tracy pinpointed when and why casey and the anthonys went from the Sawgrass/blanchard park nonsense to finger pointing at Jesse, Ricardo and Amy. It was when the evidence of the decomposition in the trunk was made public. There is no doubt in my mind that cindy, george and lee know casey murdered Caylee, they simply do not care that she did.

:mad:

(bigger by me)

Mornin' Scampi-

:crying: doesn't this just go thru your heart like a knife-

just how you said it-

that they simply do not care that she did.

How could any person feel that way about their own little grandchild, their own little niece?

How can that not bother them?

I admit- there are times that I hear of something where the media is just running with it, or people are all up in arms over it- and I think meh- that person/s made no impact on my life, it didn't affect my personal safety, or my community's safety, or my national safety, it's not the poison that China put in baby food and pet food that affected people and pets globally on a grand scale - it was between Person A and Person B...

but this was their immediate family, someone that should've mattered in life, someone that should've affected them- and to think of a 2 year old family member as just temporary that's "gone too soon" and not care about WHY she is "gone" and WHO made her "gone"?!

breaks my heart for that sweet baby girl- and the others, that their families just didn't care.

[desmom]

G'morning, all!

I haven't listened to Rob D's interview yet. This is the first I've heard of her telling anyone that her friends and the Fusion gang got together and took Caylee. I know Cindy has suggested her friends, but, c'mon!!

I'm gonna have to listen to his interview today. Think I'll try Cindy's again too. I'll listen while I'm cleaning house and away from the puter. Gave me a headache when I tried last time.

ITA that Casey doesn't care who goes down for the crime as long as she walks free.

Rob's interview is on my list of things to do also.

I have tried to listen to Cindy's..I tried twice. Between the restaurant background noise and hearing the same blah, blah about how Yuri is mean, mistreated and ignored them, I gave up. Cindy is like a broken record when it comes to LE. Cindy expected LE to jump when she said jump and they didn't.

IMO, LE didn't have to share anything with G & C. They were not Caylee's parents and their daughter was a legal adult.

[Sun]

Thanks desmom. Casey's description of ZFG is all a big lie, as there really is no such person. I can think of no way that the defense can explain this away.

The defense will no doubt point fingers at Jesse. IMO, they won't be successful with this line of attack/defense.

[jose]

Since Friday afternoon much of the discussion has been focused on the Lenny & Co. tapes. Fascinating, informative, enlightening and a real up close look at KC without the Anthony spin.

I would like to discuss the duct tape, not your everyday isle 3 at Home depot duct tape no, but the type that is used commercially.

Des will know, but I think George had a "job" at a Lexus dealership
where he could have pinched this roll (as a perk) and brought it home. And don't you think LE is trying to connect the dots from Sniffles' employment to the Anthony's garage to Caylee.

To me, that would be end of story and lights out. Any thoughts on this?

[KatieLady]

Since Friday afternoon much of the discussion has been focused on the Lenny & Co. tapes. Fascinating, informative, enlightening and a real up close look at KC without the Anthony spin.

I would like to discuss the duct tape, not your everyday isle 3 at Home depot duct tape no, but the type that is used commercially.

Des will know, but I think George had a "job" at a Lexus dealership
where he could have pinched this roll (as a perk) and brought it home. And don't you think LE is trying to connect the dots from Sniffles' employment to the Anthony's garage to Caylee.

To me, that would be end of story and lights out. Any thoughts on this?

Sniffles' :lol:

From your keyboard to God's ears jose!

[desmom]

Since Friday afternoon much of the discussion has been focused on the Lenny & Co. tapes. Fascinating, informative, enlightening and a real up close look at KC without the Anthony spin.

I would like to discuss the duct tape, not your everyday isle 3 at Home depot duct tape no, but the type that is used commercially.

Des will know, but I think George had a "job" at a Lexus dealership
where he could have pinched this roll (as a perk) and brought it home. And don't you think LE is trying to connect the dots from Sniffles' employment to the Anthony's garage to Caylee.

To me, that would be end of story and lights out. Any thoughts on this?

I know I have read George worked at the Lexus Dealership, but do not recall any documents showing he worked there.

I guess George could have "pinched" a roll from one of the security jobs he was working or he could have bought it.

IMO, the A's are all about appearances and having the best. If George bought the roll of duct tape, I can see him standing in front of the counter of tape and grabbing the name brand roll and top of the line with the biggest price tag.

[Imperfect4]

But no one can agree on the description of Zanny.

George's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/George%20Anthony%20Deposition.pdf
Number one is the Zanny that my daughter described to me is 24 to 25 years old, about 5 foot 7, 125, 130 pounds. She had straight white teeth, long brown hair. On a scale of one to ten, she's a ten, supposedly.

Cindy's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
pages 63-64 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Cindy%20Anthony%20Deposition%20April%209.pdf
Cindy describing the Zanny at the depo:
She not 25 years old. She's not five foot seven. She's not 140 pounds. She doesn't have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a ten.

Casey's handwritten statement to LE dated 7/16/08 page 30 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5 foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown curly hair, and brown eyes.

page 83 of Casey's interview with LE 7/16/08 0411 hours at Hopespring drivehttp://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.

On December 4, 2008, NG played a clip from a jail visit. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/04/ng.01.html (Note: Casey says she has shoulder length hair and wears it straight. Cindy responds with "it's curly" and Casey agrees. Did Casey forget the script and Cindy corrected her?)
Cindy: We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.

Casey: Shoulder length. She wears it straight.

Cindy: It's curly.

Casey: It's curly, but she also wears it straight. (Inaudible) it's called a straightener. She's the one that gave me my straightener.

Cindy: That's true. OK. How tall is she?

Casey: About 5, 7-ish. She's, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes, no tattoos that I've ever seen, that I know of.

Oh, lawd! This one's a keeper, des.

What a bunch of maroons!! :lol:

[Bala]

If Cindy truly believes that Casey didn't kill Caylee and loves her so much and believes her to be mother of the year then I only have one question for her.

Why would you cremate your granddaughter against her loving mother's wishes?

[Imperfect4]

Since Friday afternoon much of the discussion has been focused on the Lenny & Co. tapes. Fascinating, informative, enlightening and a real up close look at KC without the Anthony spin.

I would like to discuss the duct tape, not your everyday isle 3 at Home depot duct tape no, but the type that is used commercially.

Des will know, but I think George had a "job" at a Lexus dealership
where he could have pinched this roll (as a perk) and brought it home. And don't you think LE is trying to connect the dots from Sniffles' employment to the Anthony's garage to Caylee.

To me, that would be end of story and lights out. Any thoughts on this?

OMG, enough with "Sniffles" ... ROFL! :lol:

I'm sure LE has tried to connect those dots, and may have even been successful at tracking the tape to wherever George was employed at the time, to George, to the Anthony garage, to the gas can and to Caylee. But it's still circumstantial evidence, like all the rest of the evidence. Unless I'm missing something. (I do hope it's found George pinched the tape. Just one more example of the complete lack of morality running through this family.)

It'll be the totality of the circumstantial evidence and not one piece of it, imo, which will sink Casey's ship.

[jammies]

Since Friday afternoon much of the discussion has been focused on the Lenny & Co. tapes. Fascinating, informative, enlightening and a real up close look at KC without the Anthony spin.

I would like to discuss the duct tape, not your everyday isle 3 at Home depot duct tape no, but the type that is used commercially.

Des will know, but I think George had a "job" at a Lexus dealership
where he could have pinched this roll (as a perk) and brought it home. And don't you think LE is trying to connect the dots from Sniffles' employment to the Anthony's garage to Caylee.

To me, that would be end of story and lights out. Any thoughts on this?

Excellent, jose!! Just IN CASE would you pretty please send your light bulb moment to LE?????

Was watching 48 hours last night and a case that SHOULD have been solved so easily with crime scene photos, took umpteen years because LE never SAW those photo's! So what WE think may be obvious sometimes gets overlooked.

[jammies]

If Cindy truly believes that Casey didn't kill Caylee and loves her so much and believes her to be mother of the year then I only have one question for her.

Why would you cremate your granddaughter against her loving mother's wishes?


Sure wish someone would ask Cindy that question on camera. :ohmy:

[jammies]

Either that or they are trying to tie the duct tape to George in OHIO, besides, he was the car "cleaner" and the one who kept the cars clean.

There is also the fact that Casey Wrapped Amy up with Duct Tape and Cellophane for that no clothes party. Those photos, although I saw them online before they were all yanked, do exist. They may also show that Casey wrapped Amy the same way she wrapped caylee, which was completely around the body. Now, this is what I BELIEVE, based on the photos I've seen.


My BIL runs an auto body shop and has for years and years. I will ask him if they use industrial duct tape and what kind, etc. Thanks for the idea!

eta...his shop is here in NE Ohio. About an hour away from the A's stomping grounds.

[zinnia]

Sure wish someone would ask Cindy that question on camera. :ohmy:

Just in case they find another test she doesn't know about that would prove kcs guilt.

[Bala]

Sure wish someone would ask Cindy that question on camera. :ohmy:

I'm hoping the State asks her in front of the jury. There is just something so warped and so sick about Cindy going against Casey's wishes for her child and cremating her. It's no wonder Casey won't even look at them in court. Cindy is one sick puppy that's all I can say.
Can you imagine the utter gull it takes to do something like that.

JMO

[farrahrani]

My first thought was also that she wanted to prevent any further testing. Now I wonder, though, and I hope someone here in the know can answer:

Is it possible, that LE kept untainted (meaning untested) samples from Caylee's remains before releasing her to the grandparents? Maybe a few extra hair strands, some bone chips, anything that could be used later?

[desmom]

I am listening to Rob's interview with LE. Casey wanted Rob to find dirt on Kio, didn't want Rob talking to talk to certain friends like Mark Hawkins.

Rob asked the Jeffery Hopkins on Casey's phone bill. Casey said it was not the correct Jeffery Hopkins. The one she is referring to is Jeffery Michael Hopkins. Also, Rob asked Lee about the Jeffery Hopkins on Casey's phone bill. Lee made it very clear they were not to call him because he was a family friend, has absolutely nothing to do with any of this, he does not want their friends harassed with this, they have nothing to do with this and that is not the guy she (Casey) is talking about.

I had to :lol: when Rob talked about the sunglasses game. On one occasion he asked Tracy if Casey was ready for him to back the car into the garage. Tracy said no Casey was still working on her make up for the sunglass game.

I love the story about all the hot wings Casey ate at JB's office, the chicken sandwich she had from Wendy's that evening and the next day she tells Rob she has lost 4 lbs because she has been able to eat in days. As an afterthought she adds, "except for the chicken sandwich. That was great."

This is all from part 1 - http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Sidebar/DS300012.WMA

Part 2 can be found here: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Sidebar/audiodickver2.wma

ETA ~ WTH? I clicked on the 2nd link I posted above and it is the same as the lst link. Is that the end of Rob's interview? I wanted to hear his Lee stories. Off to see if I can find a different link.

[Imperfect4]

My first thought was also that she wanted to prevent any further testing. Now I wonder, though, and I hope someone here in the know can answer:

Is it possible, that LE kept untainted (meaning untested) samples from Caylee's remains before releasing her to the grandparents? Maybe a few extra hair strands, some bone chips, anything that could be used later?

I think cremating Caylee's remains served several of Cindy's desires.

I think her primary motive was definitely to destroy the body for future use (and to your question, I certainly hope LE has kept evidence for future testing).

I think another reason Cindy cremated the remains was to put it right to Casey. A total "I'll show YOU" move, imo.

I think yet another reason Cindy did what she did was to hold her Cindyfest under the auspices of "memorializing Caylee," which we all know was a complete crock. I'm sure she used the excuse the "public" wanted to pay their respects, but I think the reality was Cindy wanted to put on a show in which she was the star.

[Postergeist]

My first thought was also that she wanted to prevent any further testing. Now I wonder, though, and I hope someone here in the know can answer:

Is it possible, that LE kept untainted (meaning untested) samples from Caylee's remains before releasing her to the grandparents? Maybe a few extra hair strands, some bone chips, anything that could be used later?

hi farrahrani- I think that in all homicides and unsolved deaths they do keep a small amount from the person's remains for the trial until a verdict is reached or COD is determined.

Likely, one of our atty posters can answer that with certainty.

Even after a verdict, due to appeals, the State will probably have to keep it, in case of future testings, etc.

At some point, maybe they would allow that to be given back to the family for burial or disposal, not sure.

[Barbara fl.]

But no one can agree on the description of Zanny.

George's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/George%20Anthony%20Deposition.pdf
Number one is the Zanny that my daughter described to me is 24 to 25 years old, about 5 foot 7, 125, 130 pounds. She had straight white teeth, long brown hair. On a scale of one to ten, she's a ten, supposedly.

Cindy's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
pages 63-64 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Cindy%20Anthony%20Deposition%20April%209.pdf
Cindy describing the Zanny at the depo:
She not 25 years old. She's not five foot seven. She's not 140 pounds. She doesn't have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a ten.

Casey's handwritten statement to LE dated 7/16/08 page 30 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5 foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown curly hair, and brown eyes.

page 83 of Casey's interview with LE 7/16/08 0411 hours at Hopespring drivehttp://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.

On December 4, 2008, NG played a clip from a jail visit. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/04/ng.01.html (Note: Casey says she has shoulder length hair and wears it straight. Cindy responds with "it's curly" and Casey agrees. Did Casey forget the script and Cindy corrected her?)
Cindy: We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.

Casey: Shoulder length. She wears it straight.

Cindy: It's curly.

Casey: It's curly, but she also wears it straight. (Inaudible) it's called a straightener. She's the one that gave me my straightener.

Cindy: That's true. OK. How tall is she?

Casey: About 5, 7-ish. She's, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes, no tattoos that I've ever seen, that I know of.


Thank Desmom, you are the best....

So a person that fits this description was able to hold a mother down while taking her child? I don't think so.....They ae all going to be ripped to pieces on that stand......I can not wait....

[Roux]

My BIL runs an auto body shop and has for years and years. I will ask him if they use industrial duct tape and what kind, etc. Thanks for the idea!

eta...his shop is here in NE Ohio. About an hour away from the A's stomping grounds.

I watched a video clip about the tape from that Pepitone fellow (can't rememeber which station he's on). He said for 2006-2007, that particular type of Henkel tape represented something like .02% of the duct tape sold. It is very rare.

[Barbara fl.]

"Explain", thats the problem with the Anthony's. They've all TALKED way to much trying to explain everything away that they've talked themselves into a huge web. One that they will not be able to talk their way out of, IMO.

I believe Cindy's co-workers will be called to testify. Especially if, on the stand, Cindy talks all about Casey being a great person and Mother.


They all dug their own graves....they are going to have one hell of a time on that stand.....Baez will be shaking his head alright...but this time at his clients parents...:sneaky:

[desmom]

--snipped--
This is all from part 1 - http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Sidebar/DS300012.WMA

Part 2 can be found here: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Sidebar/audiodickver2.wma

ETA ~ WTH? I clicked on the 2nd link I posted above and it is the same as the lst link. Is that the end of Rob's interview? I wanted to hear his Lee stories. Off to see if I can find a different link.

Sorry to quote myself, but I found another source for Rob's interview. Part 1 and 2! Yeah!

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Casey-Anthony-case-Law-enforcement-interview-with-bounty-hunter-Rob-Dick

[jose]

I'm hoping the State asks her in front of the jury. There is just something so warped and so sick about Cindy going against Casey's wishes for her child and cremating her. It's no wonder Casey won't even look at them in court. Cindy is one sick puppy that's all I can say.
Can you imagine the utter gull it takes to do something like that.

JMO

Just more passive-aggressive behavior towards KC. The Hammer does what the Hammer wants. Oh, and so does hammer jr. hammer

[imc_e]

hi farrahrani- I think that in all homicides and unsolved deaths they do keep a small amount from the person's remains for the trial until a verdict is reached or COD is determined.

Likely, one of our atty posters can answer that with certainty.

Even after a verdict, due to appeals, the State will probably have to keep it, in case of future testings, etc.

At some point, maybe they would allow that to be given back to the family for burial or disposal, not sure.

Hi Postergeist

I enjoyed reading your posts/comments back on the other thread.
I sure miss the multi quote feature, but anyhow...

I recall in a hearing that the State mentioned that they had about an inch of bone reserved for testing, if my memory serves correctly.

mo

[Barbara fl.]

I think cremating Caylee's remains served several of Cindy's desires.

I think her primary motive was definitely to destroy the body for future use (and to your question, I certainly hope LE has kept evidence for future testing).

I think another reason Cindy cremated the remains was to put it right to Casey. A total "I'll show YOU" move, imo.

I think yet another reason Cindy did what she did was to hold her Cindyfest under the auspices of "memorializing Caylee," which we all know was a complete crock. I'm sure she used the excuse the "public" wanted to pay their respects, but I think the reality was Cindy wanted to put on a show in which she was the star.

I agree with all you say...but I think that Caylee was cremated because they didn't have the money at the time for a plot, or they ddn't find it necessary to spend it on burying Caylee....They made some lame excuse that they were in fear of someone stealing Caylee if she were buried......

[desmom]

I watched a video clip about the tape from that Pepitone fellow (can't rememeber which station he's on). He said for 2006-2007, that particular type of Henkel tape represented something like .02% of the duct tape sold. It is very rare.

Article with video link inside: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20713777/detail.html

State of Florida Notice of Intent to Rely Upon Business Record Certification recorded 9/03/09
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10725800/Henkel-Tape-Specs

[Pruddennce]

Morning everyone, thanks for all the great links Des!

Well, I finally put on earbuds and listened to Tracy and Robs interviews with my eyes closed. Wow!

I think Tracy was just nonplussed at how utterly transparent Casey Anthony was and her laughter was indicative of how ridiculous she thought casey was in the things she said and did.

I didn't catch the date of Tracy's interview, one hopes it was before Caylee's remains were found. If not, her comment that casey is likable is very disturbing to me. Lyon will be looking for 12 people just like Tracy to put on that jury, people who will excuse what the OC did, because they "like" her. I know it's a long shot, but I'm still concerned. spector one is still fresh to me.

Oh, and lee knows way more then he has revealed, imo.

Im not sure how the word "likeable" enters the equation. She never once spoke to the media. She never uttered another word to LE until she was picked up for murder one in the car-o-rama debacle. and those conversations were full of giggles.

I hope the jury sees/hears:

- the first phone call from jail: psychopathic behaviour - GIVE ME TONY's #! *all everyone cares about is getting Caylee back* <-----hopefully that will resonate LOUDLY in the courtroom. over and over again.

- Casey sitting in the interview room after her murder one arrest fixing her hair, her clothes, etc. all smiles...and AGREEING to speak to LE with Baez present. which never happened.

- Casey having an EVIL meltdown during visitation with her parents in August. likeable? she was downright evil in that exchange. facial contortions, fist clenched and asking to be heard but doesnt SAY ANYTHING of substance, just keeps repeating LET ME SPEAK...

IMO, the jurors are going to be wondering 31 days? and then deliberating on her movements and actions during that period. none of which will yield evidence of her actually taking steps to 'find caylee' or showing any concern whatsoever that her daughter was supposedly abducted.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Bala]

I agree with all you say...but I think that Caylee was cremated because they didn't have the money at the time for a plot, or they ddn't find it necessary to spend it on burying Caylee....They made some lame excuse that they were in fear of someone stealing Caylee if she were buried......

By the time they cremated Caylee they had already made at least $250 thousand off her spilt blood. I think Cindy consider Caylee one of her possessions and she'd be damned if she was going to let Casey dictate to her how to bury her. Remember the lord blessed Cindy with 3 children.

[Imperfect4]

I agree with all you say...but I think that Caylee was cremated because they didn't have the money at the time for a plot, or they ddn't find it necessary to spend it on burying Caylee....They made some lame excuse that they were in fear of someone stealing Caylee if she were buried......

Good point -- they probably didn't want to divert any of their fundation money toward a casket, gravesite, etc. for the VICTIM. :mad:

And I just LOVED the excuse about "grave robbing." Another attempt by Cindy to frame up everyone else as the bad guy.

[Pruddennce]

But no one can agree on the description of Zanny.

George's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
page 22 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/George%20Anthony%20Deposition.pdf
Number one is the Zanny that my daughter described to me is 24 to 25 years old, about 5 foot 7, 125, 130 pounds. She had straight white teeth, long brown hair. On a scale of one to ten, she's a ten, supposedly.

Cindy's depo with Morgan & Morgan re the civil suit:
pages 63-64 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Cindy%20Anthony%20Deposition%20April%209.pdf
Cindy describing the Zanny at the depo:
She not 25 years old. She's not five foot seven. She's not 140 pounds. She doesn't have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a ten.

Casey's handwritten statement to LE dated 7/16/08 page 30 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
Zenaida is twenty-five years old, and is from New York. She is roughly 5 foot 7 inches tall, 140 pounds. She has dark brown curly hair, and brown eyes.

page 83 of Casey's interview with LE 7/16/08 0411 hours at Hopespring drivehttp://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.

On December 4, 2008, NG played a clip from a jail visit. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/04/ng.01.html (Note: Casey says she has shoulder length hair and wears it straight. Cindy responds with "it's curly" and Casey agrees. Did Casey forget the script and Cindy corrected her?)
Cindy: We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.

Casey: Shoulder length. She wears it straight.

Cindy: It's curly.

Casey: It's curly, but she also wears it straight. (Inaudible) it's called a straightener. She's the one that gave me my straightener.

Cindy: That's true. OK. How tall is she?

Casey: About 5, 7-ish. She's, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes, no tattoos that I've ever seen, that I know of.

and on top of that, Casey countersues: wonder what happened to that: the document:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17983147/detail.html


they couldnt even get it right. stating that the ZFG in the civil case has 6 children; according to Casey, the ZFG that took Caylee has TWO.

two? initially she had ZERO.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[marinewife5]

Im not sure how the word "likeable" enters the equation. She never once spoke to the media. She never uttered another word to LE until she was picked up for murder one in the car-o-rama debacle. and those conversations were full of giggles.

I hope the jury sees/hears:

- the first phone call from jail: psychopathic behaviour - GIVE ME TONY's #! *all everyone cares about is getting Caylee back* <-----hopefully that will resonate LOUDLY in the courtroom. over and over again.

- Casey sitting in the interview room after her murder one arrest fixing her hair, her clothes, etc. all smiles...and AGREEING to speak to LE with Baez present. which never happened.

- Casey having an EVIL meltdown during visitation with her parents in August. likeable? she was downright evil in that exchange. facial contortions, fist clenched and asking to be heard but doesnt SAY ANYTHING of substance, just keeps repeating LET ME SPEAK...

IMO, the jurors are going to be wondering 31 days? and then deliberating on her movements and actions during that period. none of which will yield evidence of her actually taking steps to 'find caylee' or showing any concern whatsoever that her daughter was supposedly abducted.IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

my bold....


this entire family has spent the last year showing everyone that they are in control....they control LE, they control the media coverage, they control the court....and everyone has seen what happens when they don't have the control (or the perception of it)....is a jury actually going to believe that when it came to caylee missing, they would just surrender control? not look for her? not demand her return? nope. all i see is a family who had "control" over caylee's wherabouts. their actions scream it.

jmo

[desmom]

According to Rob, Lee got upset whenever Tracy and Casey were left alone. i.e. Cindy was out in the RV talking to Rob and LP. Lee called the house, Casey answered and told Lee Cindy was outside. Lee called Cindy's cell phone 3 times before she answered. Lee told her to get back in the house.

If Lee believes everything Casey said, why would he be worried if Casey was alone with Tracy in the house. What was he afraid would happen or be said?

Rob feels Lee has some involvement or knows a lot more. I do not know if Lee was involved during the 31 days, but I could see Casey telling Lee the truth.

jmo

[farrahrani]

I agree with all you say...but I think that Caylee was cremated because they didn't have the money at the time for a plot, or they ddn't find it necessary to spend it on burying Caylee....They made some lame excuse that they were in fear of someone stealing Caylee if she were buried......


Lol...yeah I'm guessing by their logic:

Stealing = exhuming remains for further testing

just as

Leaks = Sunshine Law

[Imperfect4]

I'm listening to Rob (finally).

I love the chuckling going on between LE and Rob around the absolute absurdity/stupidity of the Anthonys -- everything they say, everything they do.

[kelloggirl]

I think cremating Caylee's remains served several of Cindy's desires.

I think her primary motive was definitely to destroy the body for future use (and to your question, I certainly hope LE has kept evidence for future testing).

I think another reason Cindy cremated the remains was to put it right to Casey. A total "I'll show YOU" move, imo.

I think yet another reason Cindy did what she did was to hold her Cindyfest under the auspices of "memorializing Caylee," which we all know was a complete crock. I'm sure she used the excuse the "public" wanted to pay their respects, but I think the reality was Cindy wanted to put on a show in which she was the star.

I think another strong motive is CONTROL. (As is always with Cindy.) She did NOT want any FLBs or other unwashed masses who were not 100% on board with her Casey = Mother of the Year story ever coming close to Caylee. I think it was a Screw All of You move to keep her "in the family", since graveyards are, after all, public places. No one is allowed to grieve for Caylee other than them. Can't have lines of FLBs paying their respects to Caylee.

These people never cease making me want to vomit.

[Imperfect4]

According to Rob, Lee got upset whenever Tracy and Casey were left alone. i.e. Cindy was out in the RV talking to Rob and LP. Lee called the house, Casey answered and told Lee Cindy was outside. Lee called Cindy's cell phone 3 times before she answered. Lee told her to get back in the house.

If Lee believes everything Casey said, why would he be worried if Casey was alone with Tracy in the house. What was he afraid would happen or be said?

Rob feels Lee has some involvement or knows a lot more. I do not know if Lee was involved during the 31 days, but I could see Casey telling Lee the truth.

jmo

Bolded to address. Both Lee and Jose were very concerned stupid, chatty Casey would shoot off her mouth. Definitely indicates both Lee and Jose knew stuff early on, imo, they were afraid Casey would reveal.

[Imperfect4]

I think another strong motive is CONTROL. (As is always with Cindy.) She did NOT want any FLBs or other unwashed masses who were not 100% on board with her Casey = Mother of the Year story ever coming close to Caylee. I think it was a Screw All of You move to keep her "in the family", since graveyards are, after all, public places. No one is allowed to grieve for Caylee other than them. Can't have lines of FLBs paying their respects to Caylee.

These people never cease making me want to vomit.

Same here, kg. Same here.

[Postergeist]

Hi Postergeist

I enjoyed reading your posts/comments back on the other thread.
I sure miss the multi quote feature, but anyhow...

I recall in a hearing that the State mentioned that they had about an inch of bone reserved for testing, if my memory serves correctly.

mo

ty imc, good to know about the bone.

I tell you- even tho this is such a travesty for Caylee, reading the posts from the other day- it was just chockfull of so many great thinkers that conveyed their points so well.

Not that it doesn't happen every day, but it just seemed particularly stellar- points made that I thought - omg! A jury needs to hear this!

Or it should go down in print somewhere on the case for the non MB public to see these points;

Imperfect4 said it perfectly in post #350

They created it, then enabled it, then covered for it, and defended it. She mirrored them. It's all very stunning.

(of course, I had a few chuckles with Lavinia's take on Tubesock Vader, ruth66's talk of C looking like she's "in the middle of Mardi Gras")

crimeq saying she was a former speech pathologist and her take on Caylee maybe having a speech delay-

it was wow, she's thought what I've thought before & ironic thing is, I had recently spoken to a board buddy & said- what little you hear of Caylee, she really only says a few words in a sentence, does some babbling, and even a parrot could sing a song- but if it did it's squawking, would we know what it's saying?

But since Caylee was mostly only around adults, I would think she'd be a bit more proficient in speech.

You even brought up about hmm, who can account for G & C's whereabouts during that time frame in June & July.

I'm grateful to everyone that posts things that make me go - oh yeah, that's been staring all of in the face this whole time and why didn't I see that before, or why didn't I connect it and hoping, hoping so that LE and the State has seen it as well.

(and I always appreciate the witty comments too, Spots is a joy too!)

First and foremost we all want justice for Caylee-

while it's a somber topic to discuss, our posters are still a delight to read.

:wub:

[desmom]

Rob relays to LE Casey's reaction to the air sample showing a decomposing body.

Tracy tells Rob about Casey's reaction. She said Casey didn't really have much of a reaction and said a lot of people had access to her trunk.

Lee goes out to the trailer and when asked about the news report. Lee said they almost had to call 911 for Casey, Cindy is a nurse so checked her bp and it was 130/80, 90 it was getting up there, she was on the toilet getting ready to puke, it is really taking a toll on her.

Ooops Lee, I guess you didn't think that Tracy, Rob and Lenny would communicate with each other.

jmo

[Jester]

She spends most of the time talking about herself, showing no concern for missing Caylee, but yet still comes off as "likable"??? Though I wish she had spent more time with Tracy, she might have revealed more without realizing it, like when she mentioned chloroform.

The exchange about chloroform really surprised me. Tracy said GHB, Casey said roofies, Tracy said ether, and Casey said chloroform. I had no idea that chloroform was used in the same way that roofies were used. That short discussion makes me wonder if Casey didn't habitually knock Caylee out, which could explain her unusually blank expressions and dark circles under her eyes in the photos.

Casey was a chameleon who transformed herself into whatever she thought others wanted her to be. With Tracy, Jesse, TonE and everyone else, she was likable - only because she became what they were.

[Jester]

Morning all...
And about the hair with the death band belonging to either her or Caylee and Casey saying 'well, I'm still alive.'
How cold.

2w4u

Spoken like a true murderer. I'm sure that one left Tracy speechless.

[Imperfect4]

Rob relays to LE Casey's reaction to the air sample showing a decomposing body.

Tracy tells Rob about Casey's reaction. She said Casey didn't really have much of a reaction and said a lot of people had access to her trunk.

Lee goes out to the trailer and when asked about the news report. Lee said they almost had to call 911 for Casey, Cindy is a nurse so checked her bp and it was 130/80, 90 it was getting up there, she was on the toilet getting ready to puke, it is really taking a toll on her.

Ooops Lee, I guess you didn't think that Tracy, Rob and Lenny would communicate with each other.

jmo

Seems to me Baez was in constant contact with the Ants, trying to drive home the point their little princess's reactions to the disappearance of her daughter were utterly inappropriate. He was clearly worried early on about how unconcerned Casey was, and she showed it. It's hysterical to hear Casey and Lee try to backtrack and re-write history to make Casey appear concerned, sick, losing weight, not hungry, etc. Meantime the little felon is downing Olive Garden and THIRTY SEVEN hot wings sent to Baez's office by network outlets.

I'm convinced now the reason Baez doesn't allow G&C to visit the jail is specifically because he's afraid to have any more of Casey's inappropriate reactions and behavior out in the public domain. That's why he didn't want her in the courtroom during her hearings. And it's why he doesn't want that stupid 12/11 video tape released, either. Even Smirking Jose, who is so completely inappropriate so often himself, knows how his client is playing out here in the real world.

[Imperfect4]

Thank you, Postie. :wub:

We have a great little group here. I love reading all the posts.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Sorry to quote myself, but I found another source for Rob's interview. Part 1 and 2! Yeah!

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Casey-Anthony-case-Law-enforcement-interview-with-bounty-hunter-Rob-Dick


Thanks for link. Have the lab results for the shop vacuums and maggots been released yet? TIA

[msgatorslayer]

Just more passive-aggressive behavior towards KC. The Hammer does what the Hammer wants. Oh, and so does hammer jr. hammer

That's my take on Cindy. She passively tells Casey that she supports her while aggressively stabbing her in the back every chance she gets.

Didn't the state want a gag order early on and Baez fought and won to not have one? FGS!! Cindy needs a double gag order slapped on her head!!!

[court~critic1®]

Thank you, Postie. :wub:

We have a great little group here. I love reading all the posts.



I concur. That is why I read here each and every day, but post little. Someone always comes up with the questions and etc. that I am thinking. They are so much smarter than I am. Also puts it into words better. Keep on keeping on!


All enjoy the holiday and stay safe!!!!!

(back to reading)


to those that could sit through Cindys tapes. You are much braver than I will ever be. You deserve a medal. (purple heart)

[desmom]

Thanks for link. Have the lab results for the shop vacuums and maggots been released yet? TIA

Cury! :seeya:

No not yet.

[Barbara fl.]

By the time they cremated Caylee they had already made at least $250 thousand off her spilt blood. I think Cindy consider Caylee one of her possessions and she'd be damned if she was going to let Casey dictate to her how to bury her. Remember the lord blessed Cindy with 3 children.

I believe that money was for a fund raiser to find Caylee alive....I know Padilla withdrew what money he put in...Kronk received 5000 from NeJame, I believe....But the rest was not for Cindy and George to use as they wanted to, it was returned to the source it came from...

The Anthony's may have had some money but no where near that amount...and I still think that they creamated Caylee because they didn't want to go the expense....they wantd to keep what ever money they had for themselves...(typical of them)

And who was Casey to dictate how Caylee should be put to rest...she threw he away in a garbage bag in a dump....she had one hell of a nerve saying how she wanted the child she murdered to be put to rest....

[101Spots]

That's my take on Cindy. She passively tells Casey that she supports her while aggressively stabbing her in the back every chance she gets.

Didn't the state want a gag order early on and Baez fought and won to not have one? FGS!! Cindy needs a double gag order slapped on her head!!!

I hear duct tape does wonders. :sneaky:

[Postergeist]

Thank you, Postie. :wub:

We have a great little group here. I love reading all the posts.

ah (((Imp))) we do, it's such a privilege to "meet" so many diverse people here, and I'm in awe at the caring and the insight and the tenacity that everyone brings- and I think I probably actually beam when I log on and go wow- look at all the smart people!

:beer:


(and I also wish that they are as appreciated in IRL as they are on the boards, then I get concerned when I'm reading & learn oh no, Sun is not feeling well- gert's hand is bothering her, legalmania has the flu, - apologies, forget the nic of the poster that's to have eye surgery, and none have been "missing" for 31 days and I worry for them, I don't want them feeling discomfort and I've never laid eyes on any of our group here)


and to court~critic and others who read more than they post-

don't be a stranger :smile:

[Barbara fl.]

Good point -- they probably didn't want to divert any of their fundation money toward a casket, gravesite, etc. for the VICTIM. :mad:

And I just LOVED the excuse about "grave robbing." Another attempt by Cindy to frame up everyone else as the bad guy.


It's a shame, these people became rich over the murder of their grandchild...they have never shed a tear for Caylee...and can try and involve anyone and everyone to try and save the murderer....I really do wish they can all be put in the same cell....:mad:

[desmom]

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall inside the RV when Rob called Cindy on the 6/15 fight. Cindy explained it all away with they have not argued in over 6 months. Rob asked her which one of Casey's phone calls was it when Casey said 'you will never see your granddaughter again.' Cindy was shocked Rob would talk to her that way. She said the fight never happened.

:rolleyes: jmo

[Lavinia]

I agree with all you say...but I think that Caylee was cremated because they didn't have the money at the time for a plot, or they ddn't find it necessary to spend it on burying Caylee....They made some lame excuse that they were in fear of someone stealing Caylee if she were buried......

That's *exactly* what I think, too. I have no problem with cremation, I plan it for myself and my loved ones, but I get the impression it's crab puffs before caskets in this case, IYKWIM.

[SavannahStar]

It's a shame, these people became rich over the murder of their grandchild...they have never shed a tear for Caylee...and can try and involve anyone and everyone to try and save the murderer....I really do wish they can all be put in the same cell....:mad:


Do you really think they're rich now....or will be? I seriously doubt it.

[Pruddennce]

According to Rob, Lee got upset whenever Tracy and Casey were left alone. i.e. Cindy was out in the RV talking to Rob and LP. Lee called the house, Casey answered and told Lee Cindy was outside. Lee called Cindy's cell phone 3 times before she answered. Lee told her to get back in the house.

If Lee believes everything Casey said, why would he be worried if Casey was alone with Tracy in the house. What was he afraid would happen or be said?

Rob feels Lee has some involvement or knows a lot more. I do not know if Lee was involved during the 31 days, but I could see Casey telling Lee the truth.

jmo

Lee was involved on July 3rd. he went looking for her at Cindy's insistence. He read her ms/facebook, connected with some people on there and tracked her down. Casey got a head's up and eluded him.

now, here is the interesting part of the Lee equation: he was posting on her web pages, HE KNEW she was hanging out at Fusion...KNEW IT. yet, Lee and Cindy did not make one effort to track her down there.

Cindy also did not call Jesse (and Casey anticipated that, telling J not to talk to Cindy), Cindy did not call Ryan, Brittany, for starters. All 3 of them (considered old friends) were sent a global INVITE to Fusion on their cell phones.

one phone call to one of them would certainly have yielded SOME information as to her whereabouts.

THE ENTIRE FAMILY DID NOTHING to track her down, other than the failed attempt by Lee. then, no followup.

why did Cindy dial Amy up? she never met her. she knew how to find Jesse, Ryan and Brittany. in fact, she was rushing down to Brittany's the next day, telling her how Casey was withholding information and that she knew she was sneaking into the house during that period.

it would not have been hard to track her down with a view towards 'checking on Caylee'. THEY DID NOTHING.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Barbara fl.]

That's my take on Cindy. She passively tells Casey that she supports her while aggressively stabbing her in the back every chance she gets.

Didn't the state want a gag order early on and Baez fought and won to not have one? FGS!! Cindy needs a double gag order slapped on her head!!!


I think it is just one big ignorant family...they don't know how to act...and they don't know how to handle the money they are raking in...I'm surprised that Baez is letting them get away with not paying some of it to the defense of their daughter....

I believe in their own ignorant way, they think they are defending their darling Casey...they just don't know how to portray it and they have been diverted with all that money....so between shopping and buying a boat and paying their bills, they throw in some coverup for Casey...I mean, they have to show their appreciation for what she did some way or another...:sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

That's *exactly* what I think, too. I have no problem with cremation, I plan it for myself and my loved ones, but I get the impression it's crab puffs before caskets in this case, IYKWIM.

I agree......

[Barbara fl.]

Do you really think they're rich now....or will be? I seriously doubt it.


Rich to some is not rich to others....for people that couldn't pay their mortgage, was in debt, double stole Amy's 140 dollars....Yah, they would be considered rich at this moment.....to them ayway.....

[cassidy]

Do you really think they're rich now....or will be? I seriously doubt it.


maybe not rich, but comfortable. The mortgage is getting paid, the bills are getting paid. they can afford new clothes and jewels for Cindy. And no visibie means of support. :shrug:

[Lavinia]

Do you really think they're rich now....or will be? I seriously doubt it.

I don't think they will ever be "rich" but I also don't think it will be for a lack of trying.

[Imperfect4]

I don't think they will ever be "rich" but I also don't think it will be for a lack of trying.

No one gets rich spending their "earnings" gambling, getting caught up in internet scams, cramming their homes full of junk, and buying dime store jewelry by the pound.

[Jester]

Rob relays to LE Casey's reaction to the air sample showing a decomposing body.

Tracy tells Rob about Casey's reaction. She said Casey didn't really have much of a reaction and said a lot of people had access to her trunk.

Lee goes out to the trailer and when asked about the news report. Lee said they almost had to call 911 for Casey, Cindy is a nurse so checked her bp and it was 130/80, 90 it was getting up there, she was on the toilet getting ready to puke, it is really taking a toll on her.

Ooops Lee, I guess you didn't think that Tracy, Rob and Lenny would communicate with each other.

jmo

It sounds like the Anthony strategy is to constantly present two or more versions of the truth. That way, when Tracy recounts what she witnessed, it is contradicted with Lee's version of what happened ... and then everyone is supposed to be confused about what really happened and dismiss that point. I think the legal strategy is to have everything thrown out of court because no one know what really happened ... no facts.

[msgatorslayer]

:lol: I'm finally listening to Rob's interview.

Jose surprised him with a black SUV to use in springing Casey outta jail. Rob said the mirrors were broken. Haha, guess Jose couldn't find a real sweet, men in black SUV for his girl.

[marinewife5]

:lol: I'm finally listening to Rob's interview.

Jose surprised him with a black SUV to use in springing Casey outta jail. Rob said the mirrors were broken. Haha, guess Jose couldn't find a a real sweet, men in black SUV for his girl.

nuttin' but class for this crew! i can see jose throwing a dart at a wall full of fake theories to decide which story they'll use for court. and then cindy will make a point of going with a different one....can't have jose thinking he's in charge, after all.

jmo

[Imperfect4]

It sounds like the Anthony strategy is to constantly present two or more versions of the truth. That way, when Tracy recounts what she witnessed, it is contradicted with Lee's version of what happened ... and then everyone is supposed to be confused about what really happened and dismiss that point. I think the legal strategy is to have everything thrown out of court because no one know what really happened ... no facts.

I think this will work in the state's favor, actually. Because THEY will present a single coherent story, complete with time line. Imo, jurors will go back to the state's coherent story time and time again, especially the more convoluted the defense's presentation.

[Bala]

I believe that money was for a fund raiser to find Caylee alive....I know Padilla withdrew what money he put in...Kronk received 5000 from NeJame, I believe....But the rest was not for Cindy and George to use as they wanted to, it was returned to the source it came from...

The Anthony's may have had some money but no where near that amount...and I still think that they creamated Caylee because they didn't want to go the expense....they wantd to keep what ever money they had for themselves...(typical of them)

And who was Casey to dictate how Caylee should be put to rest...she threw he away in a garbage bag in a dump....she had one hell of a nerve saying how she wanted the child she murdered to be put to rest....
That's my point exactly. But if Cindy truly believed Casey didn't kill Caylee then wouldn't she bend over backwards to insure that Caylee received the funeral her mother wanted. Isn't that what every loving mother thinking their child is innocent would do.

[Imperfect4]

nuttin' but class for this crew! i can see jose throwing a dart at a wall full of fake theories to decide which story they'll use for court. and then cindy will make a point of going with a different one....can't have jose thinking he's in charge, after all.

jmo

ROFL! So freaking TRUE! :lol:

[Barbara fl.]

It sounds like the Anthony strategy is to constantly present two or more versions of the truth. That way, when Tracy recounts what she witnessed, it is contradicted with Lee's version of what happened ... and then everyone is supposed to be confused about what really happened and dismiss that point. I think the legal strategy is to have everything thrown out of court because no one know what really happened ... no facts.

Oh, they can certainly try that...however, the main facts will never be interpreted any other way because of the proof....911 call made by Cindy....Caylee never reported missing by her own mother....and the lying to police....that is what mostly is going to convict Casey....not the different stories that Cindy, Lee and George are saying....but only the true facts of the case....

And unless the defense can produce a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales, that has a dog (therefore she must exist :rolleyes:) and a sister named Samantha who has a mother living in Miami or NY or somewhere in PR....the defense can forget it....

But I wouldn't put it past the defense to plant that name around in PR to show that someone by that name does exist and that LE rushed :rolleyes: to judgement...

[Jester]

From the sound of everything that took place while she was there she probably thought she had stepped into the twilight zone.

2w4u

It seems like chameleon Casey reverted to "little girl", perhaps because Jose, Lee, or someone told her to be a good little girl. She played the part perfectly, right down to matching ankle bracelets and egotistical behavior. I wonder what she what role she would have taken if TonE had visited ... druggie, band groupie, suzie homemaker V cutsie, crafty 12 year old.

[Imperfect4]

That's my point exactly. But if Cindy truly believed Casey didn't kill Caylee then wouldn't she bend over backwards to insure that Caylee received the funeral her mother wanted. Isn't that what every loving mother thinking their child is innocent would do.

Sure it is. Cindy's handling of Caylee's remains is just another example of the sick, dysfunctional relationships in the Anthony family.

NOTHING they do is loving. Nothing. They treat each other, and everyone else, with complete disrespect and disregard.

[Barbara fl.]

That's my point exactly. But if Cindy truly believed Casey didn't kill Caylee then wouldn't she bend over backwards to insure that Caylee received the funeral her mother wanted. Isn't that what every loving mother thinking their child is innocent would do.


By all means, and they would be out looking for the real killer.....no doubt.....if that would be the only way that I would be able to prove my child innocent then that's what I would be doing.....

They know their daughter did this, they just think they will be able to convince everyone else that she didn't....:sneaky:

[Jester]

:lol: I'm finally listening to Rob's interview.

Jose surprised him with a black SUV to use in springing Casey outta jail. Rob said the mirrors were broken. Haha, guess Jose couldn't find a real sweet, men in black SUV for his girl.

Padilla must have used the same vehicle because he too complained about the missing rear view mirror.

[Jester]

I think this will work in the state's favor, actually. Because THEY will present a single coherent story, complete with time line. Imo, jurors will go back to the state's coherent story time and time again, especially the more convoluted the defense's presentation.

I think you're right. No matter what defense witnesses say, the family will try to present a completely different version of each event. That will be the downfall in the the families defense tactic.

[Lavinia]

No one gets rich spending their "earnings" gambling, getting caught up in internet scams, cramming their homes full of junk, and buying dime store jewelry by the pound.

No doubt about it. :thumbdown:

[Imperfect4]

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall inside the RV when Rob called Cindy on the 6/15 fight. Cindy explained it all away with they have not argued in over 6 months. Rob asked her which one of Casey's phone calls was it when Casey said 'you will never see your granddaughter again.' Cindy was shocked Rob would talk to her that way. She said the fight never happened.

:rolleyes: jmo

For all the lying this family does, you'd think they'd be better at it.

I'm :lol: at how shocked Cindy was to realize one of her dirty family secrets had gotten out. Little did she know at the time it was just the tip of the filthy iceberg.

[Jester]

Oh, they can certainly try that...however, the main facts will never be interpreted any other way because of the proof....911 call made by Cindy....Caylee never reported missing by her own mother....and the lying to police....that is what mostly is going to convict Casey....not the different stories that Cindy, Lee and George are saying....but only the true facts of the case....

And unless the defense can produce a "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales, that has a dog (therefore she must exist :rolleyes:) and a sister named Samantha who has a mother living in Miami or NY or somewhere in PR....the defense can forget it....

But I wouldn't put it past the defense to plant that name around in PR to show that someone by that name does exist and that LE rushed :rolleyes: to judgement...

It's the little details, like the conversations with Tracy, that reveal Casey's true sociopathic nature. Comments like "lots of people had access to the trunk" or "I'm alive" or "chloroform" are so far out there that no jury could overlook them. I wondered if Tracy had notes, or if she was going off the top of her head like Padilla.

[Imperfect4]

I think you're right. No matter what defense witnesses say, the family will try to present a completely different version of each event. That will be the downfall in the the families defense tactic.

Yep. To date, no one on Teams Casey or Anthony have made a lick of sense. I expect that theme to carry into the courtroom for the trial, in some measure.

The jurors, imo, will be desperate to make sense out of nonsense. And that's where the state will shine.

[desmom]

It sounds like the Anthony strategy is to constantly present two or more versions of the truth. That way, when Tracy recounts what she witnessed, it is contradicted with Lee's version of what happened ... and then everyone is supposed to be confused about what really happened and dismiss that point. I think the legal strategy is to have everything thrown out of court because no one know what really happened ... no facts.

Well they can try, but I don't think it is going to work because...

LE does know Caylee was murdered. Casey was the last one to be seen with Caylee. Casey lied about everything Caylee. When LE didn't buy the Caylee story, Casey dreamed up another version.

LE reports have a decompositional event in the trunk of the car, a hair with the death band that belongs to either Casey or Caylee and we know Casey is still here, grave wax on the paper towels from the trash bag that was in the trunk of Casey's car, a large smell stain in the trunk of the car, Casey's text messages to Amy regarding the stink in the car, the rare piece of duct tape found on Caylee's mouth matches the duct tape on the Anthony gas can from their shed, the twin to the laundry bag found with Caylee was found in the Anthony's home, the garbage bag found with Caylee is very similar to the garbage bag Cindy gave to LE with some of Casey belongings that had been removed from the car, there is no record of any communications on Casey's cell phone between Zanny, Jeff, Juliet as reported, 2 hours after Caylee was "kidapped" Casey was walking arm and arm with her boyfriend at Blockbuster Video, Casey continued her life of fun and games with dancing at Fusians, trying to find her boyfriend a new apartment, updating several friends' myspace/facebook pages, uploading 100s of pictures to photobucket, getting a manicure, tattoo, playing hostess for Will's July 4th party..........

jmo

[Imperfect4]

I still haven't figured out when and why it became the worlds business to know their financial details.

For someone who doesn't think anything is anyone else's business, you sure do spend a lot of time here. :laugh:

[Jester]

I still haven't figured out when and why it became the worlds business to know their financial details.

That started right at the beginning of the case when Cindy was on the stand during the bail hearing. The family debt was presented ... George owed $12k, they barely had any equity in the house - pretty much owed more than the house was worth, and were having difficulties making ends meet. Casey was an unemployed thief. All of a sudden the family doesn't need to work, and Casey has a legal team 5 deep. Of course it's relevant where the money is coming from. The only change in their circumstances is that one family member murdered another family member ... so it gives the appearance that the family is now not only trying to cover up the crime, but cashing in on it.

[Lavinia]

For all the lying this family does, you'd think they'd be better at it.

I'm :lol: at how shocked Cindy was to realize one of her dirty family secrets had gotten out. Little did she know at the time it was just the tip of the filthy iceberg.

BBM

They're the fast food of liars. Quantity over quality.

[Jester]

Yep. To date, no one on Teams Casey or Anthony have made a lick of sense. I expect that theme to carry into the courtroom for the trial, in some measure.

The jurors, imo, will be desperate to make sense out of nonsense. And that's where the state will shine.

I'm trying to remember what Tracy said about Casey believing that the case would be dismissed or something. Do you remember what that was, and have any thoughts on what she was thinking?

[Imperfect4]

BBM

They're the fast food of liars. Quantity over quality.

No kidding.

Pass the super-sized fries, please. :rolleyes:

[msgatorslayer]

Interesting that Casey was trying to discredit Kio Marie. Asking Rob to find some 'dirt' on her because she was lying about how Casey and she used to be really good friends. Kio Marie told everyone about the woods they hung out in as kids. The very same woods where Caylee's remains were found. HMMM!!

Rob's reminding me, wth is up with Casey and everyone in her fake life having 3 fake names?

[Imperfect4]

I'm trying to remember what Tracy said about Casey believing that the case would be dismissed or something. Do you remember what that was, and have any thoughts on what she was thinking?

She said (using her infinite knowledge of all things legal) there would be a "mistrial" based on the evidence.

Jose (using HIS infinite knowledge of all things legal) was apparently whispering in her ear.

lol
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[Imperfect4]

That started right at the beginning of the case when Cindy was on the stand during the bail hearing. The family debt was presented ... George owed $12k, they barely had any equity in the house - pretty much owed more than the house was worth, and were having difficulties making ends meet. Casey was an unemployed thief. All of a sudden the family doesn't need to work, and Casey has a legal team 5 deep. Of course it's relevant where the money is coming from. The only change in their circumstances is that one family member murdered another family member ... so it gives the appearance that the family is now not only trying to cover up the crime, but cashing in on it.

Perfectly stated. :thumbup:

[Lavinia]

I still haven't figured out when and why it became the worlds business to know their financial details.

I can only speak for myself, but Casey's *entire* milieu fascinates me as I try and figure out who she is and what caused this to happen.

[Barbara fl.]

It's the little details, like the conversations with Tracy, that reveal Casey's true sociopathic nature. Comments like "lots of people had access to the trunk" or "I'm alive" or "chloroform" are so far out there that no jury could overlook them. I wondered if Tracy had notes, or if she was going off the top of her head like Padilla.


My honest opinion is that Padilla and company will not be called as witnesses by the presecution...Lenny Padilla was caught in too many lies himself to be a witness and he will be brought down in a minute....even in his depo with LE he lied, he said the he was told by Casey about Blanchard park incident, when LP himself said on national TV that his nephue was told that and relayed to him....Lenny also said that he wasn't in the house very long when he was thrown out by Casey....Lenny was asked to take a poly by the FBI, and the mere fact that he was asked to take one (even though it was never pushed), is a sign that the FBI didn't believe him...

Lenny always talked "factly" when it was just his opinion, and he always referred to a third party to verify what he was saying, which is a sign of someone that lies....

Lenny will not make a good witness for the prosecution, this defense team (minus Baez) will slaughter him on the stand.....jmo

[Jester]

Yep. To date, no one on Teams Casey or Anthony have made a lick of sense. I expect that theme to carry into the courtroom for the trial, in some measure.

The jurors, imo, will be desperate to make sense out of nonsense. And that's where the state will shine.

I doubt jurors in any jurisdiction will have difficulty finding Casey guilty.

[Sun]

Tues. Sept 8th, 10 a.m. Kasen will be before Judge Rodriguez to argue his motion to dismiss/stay the Civil Case. I'm wondering if Kasen will be receiving any "attorney support" from Lyon or even Baez for the court hearing?

It's been quite some time since I've read the motion to dismiss/stay the Civil Case. Has Kasen got much of a chance of getting a ruling in his favor?

[Barbara fl.]

I can only speak for myself, but Casey's *entire* milieu fascinates me as I try and figure out who she is and what caused this to happen.


I don't believe Casey knows who she is....she has lived in a world of lies and make believe for so long, she probably don't know a Casey Anthony.....:blink:

[Bala]

I still haven't figured out when and why it became the worlds business to know their financial details.
When the A's decided to scam the world for money on the pretence of finding their not missing but dead granddaughter it became our business. When they used the money to pay their mortgage and credit card debt it became our business.

[Pruddennce]

once Casey quit her job, that was the last time anyone knew where Caylee was all day long.

its mind boggling to think that not one family member or friend had a contact # OR location for her 'babysitter'. no one claimed to have known where she took her, bogus info or not. Casey never told anyone 'where' in her storytelling. Only that she had a NANNY.

Cindy claims she had her 'address', not her tele # (interview with Yuri).

yet, she doesnt drive there. because she was lying. she had nothing and that lack of knowing where her granddaughter was for almost 2 years was a poor reflection on her. so she lies. but doesnt 'get it', that by admitting she had information, she did nothing to check up on Caylee from June 15th thru July 15th.

also, she could have easily ascertained that Casey did not work for Universal.

pretty simple inquiry.

I cannot believe that Cindy never 'checked out' where Caylee was supposedly all day long, not even a drive-by way before June 15th. if she had a bogus address and DID do that, we will never know; however, if she DID find out "BOGUS!", it still reverts back to her: NOT confronting Casey about it and/or following her when she supposedly went to work or dropped Caylee off.

easy stuff if SOMEBODY CARED.

however, the main point to concentrate on: not prior to, but from June 15th onward, Cindy did not employ any resources to check up on Caylee. only asked Lee and then dropped the ball.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Barbara fl.]

I don't understand how the grandparents current mortgage fits into the case against Casey.



When a case becomes this big, all their dirty laundry is aired....it comes with the territory.....and when the family of an accused acts in the manner that this family has acted, a lot more then their dirty laundry is aired......

Under normal circumstances, this would not have cme into play....but they brought it upon themselves.....

[martha]

Hi everyone hope you or having a very nice week end.I have not had a chance to be on here so i have missed all the good post you all do every day so I guess I will play catch up next week love you all and waiting for justice for CAYLEE. JMHO:wub:

[Lavinia]

I don't understand how the grandparents current mortgage fits into the case against Casey.

It's not their mortgage as a number, per se, it's a curiosity about in what way can people who *have* shilled for $$$ historically, exampled by selling Caylee missing T-shirts even after her remains were found, and aligning with the Milsteads who are *known* felons and ne'er do wells, can be living without visible means now. It's not beyond the pale to wonder what's keeping the wheels on the wagon. If the cops are asking everyone about it, as evidenced by all the tapes we're hearing and documents we've read, I don't think it's unusual for others to wonder. Once a person(s) loses credibility, repeatedly, during an investigation into a child's murder, this is what happens, IMO. There is rarely one rat infesting a building.

[bchand]

Tues. Sept 8th, 10 a.m. Kasen will be before Judge Rodriguez to argue his motion to dismiss/stay the Civil Case. I'm wondering if Kasen will be receiving any "attorney support" from Lyon or even Baez for the court hearing?

It's been quite some time since I've read the motion to dismiss/stay the Civil Case. Has Kasen got much of a chance of getting a ruling in his favor?

I thought the hearings this week were Wed & Thurs. Do I have it wrong?

[AnniePie]

Me too. They will never be able to work again. If they tried to get a job, how many posters would call the new workplace and try to get them fired. Too many, I suspect.

I definitely wouldn't call to get them fired as they have enough problems without my interference... :rolleyes: But I seriously doubt that any employer wants people with such lack of integrity working for his company.

[Bala]

They didn't scam me. I'm sorry if you were scammed. You have to be careful these days to not get drawn into a scam. Remember... if it seems to good to be true, it is.
Ya I guess I'm just not used to Grandparents who use the death of their precious granddaughter as bait to milk honest caring people out of their money. Some of us actual love our grandchildren and would never think to use their murder as a means to pay the bills.

[Barbara fl.]

once Casey quit her job, that was the last time anyone knew where Caylee was all day long.

its mind boggling to think that not one family member or friend had a contact # OR location for her 'babysitter'. no one claimed to have known where she took her, bogus info or not. Casey never told anyone 'where' in her storytelling. Only that she had a NANNY.

Cindy claims she had her 'address', not her tele # (interview with Yuri).

yet, she doesnt drive there. because she was lying. she had nothing and that lack of knowing where her granddaughter was for almost 2 years was a poor reflection on her. so she lies. but doesnt 'get it', that by admitting she had information, she did nothing to check up on Caylee from June 15th thru July 15th.

also, she could have easily ascertained that Casey did not work for Universal.

pretty simple inquiry.

I cannot believe that Cindy never 'checked out' where Caylee was supposedly all day long, not even a drive-by way before June 15th. if she had a bogus address and DID do that, we will never know; however, if she DID find out "BOGUS!", it still reverts back to her: NOT confronting Casey about it and/or following her when she supposedly went to work or dropped Caylee off.

easy stuff if SOMEBODY CARED.

however, the main point to concentrate on: not prior to, but from June 15th onward, Cindy did not employ any resources to check up on Caylee. only asked Lee and then dropped the ball.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*


Good post and very accurate....there is no way that I wouldn't know where my grandchild was for 2 years when living in my home....it shows a total disregard for Caylee's safety....it's as though, as long as Cindy didn't have to be bothered why should she care....

And I remember when this first happened and Cindy was asked by LE why she waited so long to call 911 and her response was that "why would she be concerned, she was with her mother"....But, this was the very mother that she was trying to get custody (per co workers) of Caylee from....this was the very daughter who stole every chance she got, and lied about a job...who had a so called Nanny that you never met or spoke to for 2 years....And you wouldn't be worried if you hadn't spoke to your granddaughter for 31 days?

[Imperfect4]

My honest opinion is that Padilla and company will not be called as witnesses by the presecution...Lenny Padilla was caught in too many lies himself to be a witness and he will be brought down in a minute....even in his depo with LE he lied, he said the he was told by Casey about Blanchard park incident, when LP himself said on national TV that his nephue was told that and relayed to him....Lenny also said that he wasn't in the house very long when he was thrown out by Casey....Lenny was asked to take a poly by the FBI, and the mere fact that he was asked to take one (even though it was never pushed), is a sign that the FBI didn't believe him...

Lenny always talked "factly" when it was just his opinion, and he always referred to a third party to verify what he was saying, which is a sign of someone that lies....

Lenny will not make a good witness for the prosecution, this defense team (minus Baez) will slaughter him on the stand.....jmo

Imo, the only reason the state might use Lenny, Rob or Tracy is for additional examples of Casey's utter lack of concern for Caylee. All Lenny & co. can provide beyond those examples are their assumptions and perceptions about Casey and her family, which don't really count for much, and won't really be needed because there's such a mountain of much higher quality evidence the state has to work with.

[marinewife5]

They didn't scam me. I'm sorry if you were scammed. You have to be careful these days to not get drawn into a scam. Remember... if it seems to good to be true, it is.

truer words have never been spoken! same advice works for trolls, too!

:thumbsup:

[SavannahStar]

I don't understand how the grandparents current mortgage fits into the case against Casey.

It doesn't. Not at all. :laugh:

[Bala]

Well.. I think all this irrelevant garbage only distorts the facts and a true picture of who is responsible for the death of little Caylee.
What it does is shows the motive of the A's to continue covering for Casey. Caylee's spilt blood has become their only means of support.

[Pruddennce]

When a case becomes this big, all their dirty laundry is aired....it comes with the territory.....and when the family of an accused acts in the manner that this family has acted, a lot more then their dirty laundry is aired......

Under normal circumstances, this would not have cme into play....but they brought it upon themselves.....

and it was a big part of the bond hearing. how exactly would they be able to bond her out, if granted. they didnt have it at that time; the only reason she was out was because LP & Company.

if they were smart, they would have refused her return to the home. Casey being an adult and all that--->the new tune they were singing when it came time to explain how they accepted Caylee's absence...SHE's AN ADULT, ITS HER CHILD.

cake and eat it too...so they think.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[AnniePie]

I still haven't figured out when and why it became the worlds business to know their financial details.

When you raise a psychopath who murders her baby, and then you cover up every single thing she did so that she won't get caught, then you lie through your teeth to LE and to the media and to to public (us), then we have every right on earth to stick our big fat noses into their financial affairs. Get it?

:rolleyes:

[ttcRider]

We can kind of suppose that George and Cindy were privy to all this before it was released on Friday but can you imagine how Cindy's brother and family must be thinking!!?? I bet he is looking for a large rock to hide under right about now. :laugh: IMO

[Barbara fl.]

Well.. I think all this irrelevant garbage only distorts the facts and a true picture of who is responsible for the death of little Caylee.


I too feel that only the facts should be what counts....but some of the facts do go back to the home......duct tape, garbage bags, shovels etc....and although this has nothing to do with the Anthony's paying their bills....Casey was a resident of this house as well as Caylee, also it is believe that Caylee was murdered in this house, therefore there is just no way anything pertaining to that home will be left out....this family no longer have that privacy.....

[AnniePie]

For someone who doesn't think anything is anyone else's business, you sure do spend a lot of time here. :laugh:

:laugh: :rolleyes:

[AnniePie]

No kidding.

Pass the super-sized fries, please. :rolleyes:

Did you mean the super-sized LIES? :laugh:

[Citygirl]

It has always been my understanding that Cindy had a pretty stable and successful work history.


That was before she became a diva, a sage, a passer on of the truth, a know-it-all and a defender of a baby killer..
not to mention a celebrity..
I can't imagine how they are gonna live their lives and make a living after this is all over and the money is gone and the TV appearances are all dried up..

[marinewife5]

That was before she became a diva, a sage, a passer on of the truth, a know-it-all and a defender of a baby killer..
not to mention a celebrity..
I can't imagine how they are gonna live their lives and make a living after this is all over and the money is gone and the TV appearances are all dried up..

one can only hope that lee and mallory will give birth to a blessed cash cow for the grieving grandparents to exploit. if anyone can find a way, it's george and cindy.

jmo

[Imperfect4]

Most of you have never lost a grandchild at your childs hands, and really have no idea what it would be like to stand in their shoes. I think the Anthony's were just like any other family before this happened to them.

You must hang with a rough crowd, if the Anthonys appear to you as "just like any other family." :laugh:

[Balesha]

I doubt jurors in any jurisdiction will have difficulty finding Casey guilty.

I agree with this so much.

I still stand by saying that her only chance was a plea bargain very early on. She will be lucky to get away with her life at this point.

Casey's inability to admit the truth, having a bad lawyer, and her delusional parents all led to the assurance that she will never again see the light of day.

I don't think Baez spelled it out clearly enough for Casey. I realize that she is stubborn and nuts, but this is what lawyers do....it was his job to make her see the light, but he obviously failed in that task or we would have had a plea bargain.

[AnniePie]

Well.. I think all this irrelevant garbage only distorts the facts and a true picture of who is responsible for the death of little Caylee.

Naw. It doesn't.

We all know who did it. It's just fun to know all about the "irrelevant garbage" while we're waiting for her to go bye-bye.

[Pruddennce]

It has always been my understanding that Cindy had a pretty stable and successful work history.

high functioning psychopaths and narcissists usually do.

they are great employees and are able to function quite nicely. their personal lives are thin. as you can see, there was no rallying around the Anthonys, one or two individuals, but no one front and center with them. because its about control.

they prey on new friendships, strangers, a new audience. hence, the Millsteads (which leads to another question: who is preying on who, lol)...and Conway.....their 'newfound religion" and of course, the media who put them up in the Ritz. the media has their own agenda, so they dont count as 'friends'.

Casey, on the other hand, is a low functioning psychopath.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Citygirl]

Most of you have never lost a grandchild at your childs hands, and really have no idea what it would be like to stand in their shoes. I think the Anthony's were just like any other family before this happened to them.


My opinion is different than yours here..this family was already very messed up..that's prolly WHY all this happened..

[AnniePie]

It has always been my understanding that Cindy had a pretty stable and successful work history.

Really. As if that matters.

Anyone who has kept up with this case knows that she is a Master Liar. Would you like to have such a person working for you? No, I thought not.

[Imperfect4]

Did you mean the super-sized LIES? :laugh:

Those too. :laugh:

[Bala]

[QUOTE=Nic-A-Day;13446407]I don't think you do have every right. You have chosen to inject yourself into their lives, and just because you have doesn't mean you are entitled to, or have a right to any of their personal and financial matters.[/QUOTE
The minute the A's started asking for donations from the public they put their fimacial business out there. Should everyone just keep sending them money so they can continue paying their mortgage and credit card debt off.

[Barbara fl.]

I don't think you do have every right. You have chosen to inject yourself into their lives, and just because you have doesn't mean you are entitled to, or have a right to any of their personal and financial matters.


Well, first, none of us on here did that...we would have no way to do that.....it was given to us via the media.....and we all know how the media gets when a case is this big....so whether we should or shouldn't know about this....we do know and it did become news.....

And again, when you have a family member who murders another family member...no one in that household is exempt from the media....

When Jessica Lundsford was murdered by a neighbor....the grandfather's dirty laundry from 50 years ago was aired...the grandmother failed the poly and was scrutinized....and they were totally innocent.....

These things just come with it...right or wrong....

[AnniePie]

Most of you have never lost a grandchild at your childs hands, and really have no idea what it would be like to stand in their shoes. I think the Anthony's were just like any other family before this happened to them.

Oh, I'm sure you're right. Just like any other family of sociopaths out there!

[jammies]

I'm hoping the State asks her in front of the jury. There is just something so warped and so sick about Cindy going against Casey's wishes for her child and cremating her. It's no wonder Casey won't even look at them in court. Cindy is one sick puppy that's all I can say.
Can you imagine the utter gull it takes to do something like that.

JMO


For me it was Cindy's little statement that Casey was GUILTY. If she truly felt her daughter was being railroaded, she would never have done this. What a conflicted brain Cindy has.

[Pruddennce]

I don't think you do have every right. You have chosen to inject yourself into their lives, and just because you have doesn't mean you are entitled to, or have a right to any of their personal and financial matters.

the anthonys injected THEMSELVES into the case.

pretty simple.

Cindy is tired, she seeks water. ME ME ME...I DID SEVERAL PRESS CONFERENCES....SWEETHEART...WHICH ONE, I havent watched all of them yet.

ahhhhhhhh yes, we the people sought THEM OUT?

you got that all wrong.

Cindy never ONCE gave the media a description of the sitter, her car, her supposed family members which involved two children that her sister had. ZERO info.

and of course, an incorrect date of the last sighting of Caylee. and of course her lies that Casey had a job and that LE are the liars about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Barbara fl.]

My opinion is different than yours here..this family was already very messed up..that's prolly WHY all this happened..

Amen......

[AnniePie]

I don't think you do have every right. You have chosen to inject yourself into their lives, and just because you have doesn't mean you are entitled to, or have a right to any of their personal and financial matters.

Guess what, Nic? By your being here, you have injected yourself right into their lives too.

I'm honestly not that interested in their financial affairs, but if it's out there for me to speculate upon then I will do it. Just cuz I can.

[Barbara fl.]

the anthonys injected THEMSELVES into the case.

pretty simple.

Cindy is tired, she seeks water. ME ME ME...I DID SEVERAL PRESS CONFERENCES....SWEETHEART...WHICH ONE, I havent watched all of them yet.

ahhhhhhhh yes, we the people sought THEM OUT?

you got that all wrong.

Cindy never ONCE gave the media a description of the sitter, her car, her supposed family members which involved two children that her sister had. ZERO info.

and of course, an incorrect date of the last sighting of Caylee. and of course her lies that Casey had a job and that LE are the liars about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*



:thumbsup: correct.....

[Imperfect4]

You know I stopped spending time here a long time ago. I can barely bring myself to click on the thread. I happen to be bored and am delaying cleaning the house right now.

"Here" as this message board, not just this thread. You're here constantly on one thread or another, with one nic or a dozen. Odd behavior for someone who goes on and on about how nothing any of us discuss is our business. Why do you make it yours, then?

[Barbara fl.]

You know I stopped spending time here a long time ago. I can barely bring myself to click on the thread. I happen to be bored and am delaying cleaning the house right now.


Well it seems that you are on the wrong thread anyway.....:seeya:

[Barbara fl.]

Gosh.. I haven't been called a troll in a while now, I forgot how endearing it feels.


Now that is surprising.....

[Pruddennce]

Guess what, Nic? By your being here, you have injected yourself right into their lives too.

I'm honestly not that interested in their financial affairs, but if it's out there for me to speculate upon then I will do it. Just cuz I can.

hey Annie,

all should remember that GA gave ALL OF HIS PERSONAL FINANCIAL FLAWS to LE during his interview...his losing thousands of dollars via what he calls an "ON LINE SCAM"...

Shirley P indicated that GA was engaged in fraud against Cindy: obtaining credit cards in her name.

financials have alot to do with the dynamics of Casey and how she managed to 'learn' how to steal and commit fraud.

did not have to look too far...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[marinewife5]

the anthonys injected THEMSELVES into the case.

pretty simple.

Cindy is tired, she seeks water. ME ME ME...I DID SEVERAL PRESS CONFERENCES....SWEETHEART...WHICH ONE, I havent watched all of them yet.

ahhhhhhhh yes, we the people sought THEM OUT?

you got that all wrong.

Cindy never ONCE gave the media a description of the sitter, her car, her supposed family members which involved two children that her sister had. ZERO info.

and of course, an incorrect date of the last sighting of Caylee. and of course her lies that Casey had a job and that LE are the liars about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

cindy dove right in! kinda like getting in a pool without a reachable ladder.

jmo

[Imperfect4]

cindy dove right in! kinda like getting in a pool without a reachable ladder.

jmo

I'm thinking cannonball. :laugh:

[Imperfect4]

I get adrenaline rush fighting with you. Thats why I'm here.

Probably one of the most truthful things I've ever seen you post.

[Barbara fl.]

high functioning psychopaths and narcissists usually do.

they are great employees and are able to function quite nicely. their personal lives are thin. as you can see, there was no rallying around the Anthonys, one or two individuals, but no one front and center with them. because its about control.

they prey on new friendships, strangers, a new audience. hence, the Millsteads (which leads to another question: who is preying on who, lol)...and Conway.....their 'newfound religion" and of course, the media who put them up in the Ritz. the media has their own agenda, so they dont count as 'friends'.

Casey, on the other hand, is a low functioning psychopath.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*



Pru, you are on a roll.....I love it.....:thumbsup:

[imc_e]

This is a mesage board. Some of you have been here so long that you have come to believe that this board is their lives, and its not. This board only represents your perception of the Anthony's, it is NOT representative of the Anthony's. So.. no I have not and don't expect to try and inject myself into their lives.

How do you know how long I have been here? :w00t:

[Scampi]

Good point -- they probably didn't want to divert any of their fundation money toward a casket, gravesite, etc. for the VICTIM. :mad:

And I just LOVED the excuse about "grave robbing." Another attempt by Cindy to frame up everyone else as the bad guy.

Don't forget had they not cremated Caylee, they wouldn't have had any cremain "jewelery" to wear. :angry:

[WillowInFlight]

I forget where I heard this, maybe NG, maybe I read it, but did anyone else hear that Casey said she wanted the COV to be Miami, so that the first place she could go when acquitted was the beach? I swear I heard that somewhere.

[Barbara fl.]

This is a mesage board. Some of you have been here so long that you have come to believe that this board is their lives, and its not. This board only represents your perception of the Anthony's, it is NOT representative of the Anthony's. So.. no I have not and don't expect to try and inject myself into their lives.


This message board is no different then people talking on a job or elsewhere....I doubt that it is anyone here's whole life...it's a place to discuss the horrible murder of an innocent child by the hands of her mother whose parents are covering up...and in my books, when you cover up for someone, you are condoning their behavior....

And there are no doors here that open or shut....just the click of a button....so nothing hits you on the way out....

[AnniePie]

I get adrenaline rush fighting with you. Thats why I'm here.

I was just thinking that.

Nic to Self: Hmmm... I don't want to clean my house today. I think I'll go to the Caylee Anthony board to fight with some people to get myself motivated.

I think I hear your housework calling you.

[AlohaRainbow]

Either that or they are trying to tie the duct tape to George in OHIO, besides, he was the car "cleaner" and the one who kept the cars clean.

There is also the fact that Casey Wrapped Amy up with Duct Tape and Cellophane for that no clothes party. Those photos, although I saw them online before they were all yanked, do exist. They may also show that Casey wrapped Amy the same way she wrapped caylee, which was completely around the body. Now, this is what I BELIEVE, based on the photos I've seen.

re tying the duct tape found on caylee to the anthony household... iirc, didn't something come out that stated there was match to the duct tape found on the anthony gas cans to that found on caylee? (or is that just wishful thinking on my part)

[Imperfect4]

Don't forget had they not cremated Caylee, they wouldn't have had any cremain "jewelery" to wear. :angry:

I never forget that, Scamp. Cindy does love her jewelry. And I know she's just waiting for the glorious day when her little felon gets sprung and she can present her with her OWN bracelet of Caylee's remains. Because we know she bought one for her.

[Barbara fl.]

I use a mathematical formula to determine it, based on post count times registration date, divided by level of snark, square it to the number 9 and the answer is lengh of time here.



And you registered 6 days ago.....hummmmmm....40 some odd posts a day already....

Your hooked in just 6 days
:lol:

[AnniePie]

I never forget that, Scamp. Cindy does love her jewelry. And I know she's just waiting for the glorious day when her little felon gets sprung and she can present her with her OWN bracelet of Caylee's remains. Because we know she bought one for her.

Do you think that Cindy and George are deluded enough to believe Casey is going to get out one day? :w00t:

[SavannahStar]

What it does is shows the motive of the A's to continue covering for Casey. Caylee's spilt blood has become their only means of support.


I don't think we really know that, for fact.

[101Spots]

I don't understand how the grandparents current mortgage fits into the case against Casey.

It doesn't. There is absolutely no relationship. None of our business.

But we'll discuss it anyway.

[SavannahStar]

I forget where I heard this, maybe NG, maybe I read it, but did anyone else hear that Casey said she wanted the COV to be Miami, so that the first place she could go when acquitted was the beach? I swear I heard that somewhere.

I believe I heard that as well. But can't remember where.

[SavannahStar]

It doesn't. There is absolutely no relationship. None of our business.

But we'll discuss it anyway.

I LOVE an honest person. :thumbsup:

[really3997]

I don't think they will ever be "rich" but I also don't think it will be for a lack of trying.

:thumbsup: I picture the "War of the A's" in end they will be each others demise. IMO

[Bala]

I get adrenaline rush fighting with you. Thats why I'm here.

Wow how truly pathetic is that, that the only way to get your jollies is to defend a baby killer and her blood sucking family.

[need2no]

I never forget that, Scamp. Cindy does love her jewelry. And I know she's just waiting for the glorious day when her little felon gets sprung and she can present her with her OWN bracelet of Caylee's remains. Because we know she bought one for her.

This is a bit rough but WTH. I wonder if while casey is laying around in her cell thinking if she has ever considered that one day in the distant future Cindy may have another sentimental charm to add to her bracelet. Would be nice for Cindy to keep her girls together.

[Barbara fl.]

Do you think that Cindy and George are deluded enough to believe Casey is going to get out one day? :w00t:


They may be stupid but not that stupid.....they better hope that they will be permitted to visit Casey after she is convicted....Casey may deny them that priviledge for life.....

It's killing Casey to think of all that money being spent by her parents for her deed.....

[Barbara fl.]

Wow how truly pathetic is that, that the only way to get your jollies is to defend a baby killer and her blood sucking family.




good reply...and very fitting....:thumbsup:

[Sun]

Here are the next court hearing dates, from the Clerk of Courts records.
Tuesday and Wednesday.

9/8/2009 10:00 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R
9/9/2009 15:15 PM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R

[Imperfect4]

Do you think that Cindy and George are deluded enough to believe Casey is going to get out one day? :w00t:

As George constantly says, "Never give up hope."

[WillowInFlight]

I believe I heard that as well. But can't remember where.

Is it really possible that she believes she is getting off, or is she "pretending" again? I don't see how when she knows what she did that she can actually believe she can fool a jury. Though Tracy did say she was likable, I'm hoping that Jose will take that and run with it and put Casey on the stand. :sneaky:

[AnniePie]

This is a bit rough but WTH. I wonder if while casey is laying around in her cell thinking if she has ever considered that one day in the distant future Cindy may have another sentimental charm to add to her bracelet. Would be nice for Cindy to keep her girls together.

:scared: Whoa :w00t:

[Imperfect4]

This is a bit rough but WTH. I wonder if while casey is laying around in her cell thinking if she has ever considered that one day in the distant future Cindy may have another sentimental charm to add to her bracelet. Would be nice for Cindy to keep her girls together.

Oooooh. :sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

I never forget that, Scamp. Cindy does love her jewelry. And I know she's just waiting for the glorious day when her little felon gets sprung and she can present her with her OWN bracelet of Caylee's remains. Because we know she bought one for her.


She may have to add to it......

[bchand]

Here are the next court hearing dates, from the Clerk of Courts records.
Tuesday and Wednesday.

9/8/2009 10:00 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R
9/9/2009 15:15 PM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R

Thanks Sun :seeya:

[101Spots]

I don't think you do have every right. You have chosen to inject yourself into their lives, and just because you have doesn't mean you are entitled to, or have a right to any of their personal and financial matters.

They started a Non-Profit Foundation. BY LAW, we have a right to inspect their financial records.

Please, feel free to skip over those posts that offend you. We won't hold it against you.

[Julie Dupree]

Here are the next court hearing dates, from the Clerk of Courts records.
Tuesday and Wednesday.

9/8/2009 10:00 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R
9/9/2009 15:15 PM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R

Thanks Sun:)
Do you know if either of these will be DC?

[Imperfect4]

Where did you see me defend a baby killer or even an alleged baby killer? That never happened and you should really think before you post.

I hear your floor mop crying for attention. Better get after that house cleaning. Before you're re-registering as Nic-A-Second.

[101Spots]

cindy dove right in! kinda like getting in a pool without a reachable ladder.

jmo

Can I get you a shovel to reach that ladder??

:lol:

[Imperfect4]

Their personal and private matters are not a part of the Non-Profit records.

Their personal, private matters ended with a dead baby. That should concern you. Oddly, it doesn't.

[Jeepers]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/04/ng.01.html

This is a transcript from NG Dec 4, 2008 Jailhouse tape Casey, Cindy, George and Lee

Casey is describing Zanny to them. She is saying about 5'7 a little thicker than Casey around 140 pounds about the same height as George. Casey is around 5'3
Thinking she is pretyy much describing herself and not a Zanny just putting some little twists on it.

Casey and George talking about Amy and the money. Casey says she felt guilty about it but it was out of desperation. George ask what kind of desperation and she told him that say spoke with Cindy and Lee about it.

There were times that she was just giggly reminds me of Tracy's childlike description of Casey. Casey had all the attention with George and Cindy and when Tracy was assigned as her babysitter Casey had all of Tracy's attention.

She is one sick, twisted monster.

She also speaks in past tense of Caylees had the best grandparents then comes back and says she still does.

Knowing what we all know now and going back to orignal talks very telling of what a self centered little twit she really is.

[101Spots]

I use a mathematical formula to determine it, based on post count times registration date, divided by level of snark, square it to the number 9 and the answer is lengh of time here.

Mathematically impossible.

Faulty formula.

[AlohaRainbow]

I am listening to Rob's interview with LE. Casey wanted Rob to find dirt on Kio, didn't want Rob talking to talk to certain friends like Mark Hawkins.
*snip*.

thanks for providing a synopsis - i haven't had a chance to listen to the newly released interviews, so really appreciate the info!

speaking of mark hawkins - am i correct in that no interviews with him and LE have been released in the doc dumps?

[imc_e]

I believe the entire case was scripted by Cindy, and paved the way for her to call Caylee 'missing' in order to make money.

She was broke. :rolleyes:

Casey tossed her murdered baby into the woods, and Cindy cashed in on her grandchild and pushed the missing child envelope as farrrr as it could be.

I think Cindy and George are accomplices to their poor grandchild's murder, and I believe that one day they will have to answer for their actions and be held accountable.

I predict Cindy will spend a minimum of 2 years in prison for her part.

[AlohaRainbow]

re-posting my question

re tying the duct tape found on caylee to the anthony household... iirc, didn't something come out that stated there was match to the duct tape found on the anthony gas cans to that found on caylee? (or is that just wishful thinking on my part)

adding: if the gas can duct tape is a match, LE wouldn't need to hunt down who bought the tape and when (although they may still want to and be able to, but imo it wouldn't be necessary).

[breezie]

I was just thinking that.

Nic to Self: Hmmm... I don't want to clean my house today. I think I'll go to the Caylee Anthony board to fight with some people to get myself motivated.

I think I hear your housework calling you.

based on it's post count, that is one NASTY house. :w00t:

[Jeepers]

I believe the entire case was scripted by Cindy, and paved the way for her to call Caylee 'missing' in order to make money.

She was broke. :rolleyes:

Casey tossed her murdered baby into the woods, and Cindy cashed in on her grandchild and pushed the missing child envelope as farrrr as it could be.

I think Cindy and George are accomplices to their poor grandchild's murder, and I believe that one day they will have to answer for their actions and be held accountable.

I predict Cindy will spend a minimum of 2 years in prison for her part.

Good afternoon:

I don't know if Cindy, George or Lee will ever get into any legal trouble for their actions but, it sure would make me feel better it that did happen.
I am thinking that since this case broke with all the happenings in it several other people have copied Casey. The little Haliegh case is just as crazy. I think all should be locked up as an example to other would be murderers and coverup family members. Maybe it just might slow some of these baby murders down. There have been so many sad stories this summer.

[really3997]

This is a bit rough but WTH. I wonder if while casey is laying around in her cell thinking if she has ever considered that one day in the distant future Cindy may have another sentimental charm to add to her bracelet. Would be nice for Cindy to keep her girls together.

:scared:Oh my that's bad, But ironically satisfying. JMO

[101Spots]

Good afternoon:

I don't know if Cindy, George or Lee will ever get into any legal trouble for their actions but, it sure would make me feel better it that did happen.
I am thinking that since this case broke with all the happenings in it several other people have copied Casey. The little Haliegh case is just as crazy. I think all should be locked up as an example to other would be murderers and coverup family members. Maybe it just might slow some of these baby murders down. There have been so many sad stories this summer.

They should have started with John Couey's relatives.

[Imperfect4]

re-posting my question

re tying the duct tape found on caylee to the anthony household... iirc, didn't something come out that stated there was match to the duct tape found on the anthony gas cans to that found on caylee? (or is that just wishful thinking on my part)

adding: if the gas can duct tape is a match, LE wouldn't need to hunt down who bought the tape and when (although they may still want to and be able to, but imo it wouldn't be necessary).

Aloha -- I don't think LE has released information that there was a match. We've seen pics of the gas can w/duct tape, and we know there was duct tape on Caylee, but I don't think the dots have been connected by use of the term "match." That's my recollection, anyway.

[imc_e]

Good afternoon:

I don't know if Cindy, George or Lee will ever get into any legal trouble for their actions but, it sure would make me feel better it that did happen.
I am thinking that since this case broke with all the happenings in it several other people have copied Casey. The little Haliegh case is just as crazy. I think all should be locked up as an example to other would be murderers and coverup family members. Maybe it just might slow some of these baby murders down. There have been so many sad stories this summer.


Afternoon Jeepers,

It's hard to believe all the cases that are going on to do with little children and its usually the parents! I can't understand that at all.
A lot of the cases seem to come out of Florida if Im not mistaken.
Maybe their society needs to provide back ups for parents of young children, where they can drop them off, instead of killing them..

My hubby is so sick today (high fever), so as a talented multi tasking FLB'er I am able to not only clean my house, shop for groceries, and make a big pot of homemade chicken soup, all the while posting.

:smile:

[Jeepers]

They should have started with John Couey's relatives.

That has got to be up there close to the #1 spot if there ever was a group that should have gone down the same jail steps Couey did.
I just did not understand how they were able to skate by so easy. Then here comes the A's to top their actions. I just stay amazed

[bchand]

re-posting my question

re tying the duct tape found on caylee to the anthony household... iirc, didn't something come out that stated there was match to the duct tape found on the anthony gas cans to that found on caylee? (or is that just wishful thinking on my part)

adding: if the gas can duct tape is a match, LE wouldn't need to hunt down who bought the tape and when (although they may still want to and be able to, but imo it wouldn't be necessary).

Yes you are correct.

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/09/caylee-anthony-duct-tape-rare/comment-page-2/

[bchand]

Afternoon Jeepers,

It's hard to believe all the cases that are going on to do with little children and its usually the parents! I can't understand that at all.
A lot of the cases seem to come out of Florida if Im not mistaken.
Maybe their society needs to provide back ups for parents of young children, where they can drop them off, instead of killing them..

My hubby is so sick today (high fever), so as a talented multi tasking FLB'er I am able to not only clean my house, shop for groceries, and make a big pot of homemade chicken soup, all the while posting.

:smile:

So sorry about your hubby. It's not the flu is it?

[really3997]

Ok I finally listen to Cindy's tape and like everyone I am taking my migrane meds. Here is what I got out of that tape.

1. I, I, I,
2. Me Me Me Me
3. Yuri is mean ( but I have to add kinda good looking ssh I think he rejected Cindy's advancement jmo)
4. People talk to much in a restaurant.
5. Cindy is a tattletale
6. They are either at Sonnys Barbeque or Tony Roma's

and last but not least. Smile you're on I am wearing a wire. :tonguewag:

I know you warned me that is 88.47 mins of my life I will not get back

[marinewife5]

Can I get you a shovel to reach that ladder??

:lol:

in my family we are much more practical with delicate pool liners....perhaps a pitchfork????
would that be more logical????

[imc_e]

So sorry about your hubby. It's not the flu is it?

It must be the flu, super high fever, so I have been keeping an eye on that. A shot of Nyquil and he's out now for a few hrs. :closedeyes:

Thanks bchand!

[Jeepers]

Afternoon Jeepers,

It's hard to believe all the cases that are going on to do with little children and its usually the parents! I can't understand that at all.
A lot of the cases seem to come out of Florida if Im not mistaken.
Maybe their society needs to provide back ups for parents of young children, where they can drop them off, instead of killing them..

My hubby is so sick today (high fever), so as a talented multi tasking FLB'er I am able to not only clean my house, shop for groceries, and make a big pot of homemade chicken soup, all the while posting.

:smile:

You know better than that. You are gonna be kicked out of the club if you don't slow down. Cindy did tell everyone to get up off their lazy arses but I think you are just moving a little too fast. Sorry Hubby is sick
Is it the flu? Going on here in B'ham Drs. not checking for Swine just saying yep it's the flu. Daughter had it week before but, she went back to work this past week. Bad Stuff.
Florida has seen their share of high public sad cases, California, Ohio, and Georgia are also keeping us busy with cases.
It is just a reflection of how much value society puts on babies and other people's lives jmo.
I don't know if there are more families that act like the A's that we are not aware (Fl Sunshine Law) I just have never heard or seen such a group and find them to be rare. That is why I would like LE to make an example of them so folks would know that they will get in trouble for interferring in an investigation.

[SavannahStar]

Is it really possible that she believes she is getting off, or is she "pretending" again? I don't see how when she knows what she did that she can actually believe she can fool a jury. Though Tracy did say she was likable, I'm hoping that Jose will take that and run with it and put Casey on the stand. :sneaky:

Oh I don't think he'll put her on the stand. Many who post on here think he's really stupid (I gather), but he's not that stupid, I'm sure.

Frankly, I bet she is not thinking she'll get off. Keep in mind, we're seeing interviews made quite some time ago. She's been in jail now a long time, seen everything, heard everything. I belive she quite possibly knows she's going to be found guilty, at this point. Unless Baez has her snookered as to the possible doubt, forensics-wise.

We here on message boards have heard and read it ALL....including A LOT that will NOT be admissable at trial. In that respect....it just may not be a slam dunk.

I dunno. It will be interesting. But I thank God every single day of my life that this case does not literally consume me, as it once did.

Good to "talk" to you again, girlfriend. :smile: I hope you are well.

[imc_e]

You know better than that. You are gonna be kicked out of the club if you don't slow down. Cindy did tell everyone to get up off their lazy arses but I think you are just moving a little too fast. Sorry Hubby is sick
Is it the flu? Going on here in B'ham Drs. not checking for Swine just saying yep it's the flu. Daughter had it week before but, she went back to work this past week. Bad Stuff.
Florida has seen their share of high public sad cases, California, Ohio, and Georgia are also keeping us busy with cases.
It is just a reflection of how much value society puts on babies and other people's lives jmo.
I don't know if there are more families that act like the A's that we are not aware (Fl Sunshine Law) I just have never heard or seen such a group and find them to be rare. That is why I would like LE to make an example of them so folks would know that they will get in trouble for interferring in an investigation.

Bolding to address.
Talk about interfering and obstructing with a murder investigation!
They need to be made an example of.
Cindy had that car cleaned as soon as it was brought to their home.
By the time the officers came, she told them flat out that she had cleaned the car. The same car that smelled like a dead body and they knew Caylee was missing. Thats so incriminating.
She washed the pants and got rid of decomposition, DNA and any grave wax that was most likely on them.

Lickity split, they were claiming false sightings of Caylee, to further their financial agenda AND try to get their daughter off any potential murder charges.

Even after the body farm released a report that stated Caylee was decomposing in that trunk, Cindy demanded an apology and continued on with their fake sightings and media blitz.

Cindy knew Caylee was dead in the woods because of that young gentleman that brought a bag of toys/clothes/shoes? from the woods,knocked on her door and she barely looked at them, telling him no no her grand daughter was alive out there.

She knew darn well she was deceased, at the hands of her daughter, the whole time, imo.

[SavannahStar]

Where did you see me defend a baby killer or even an alleged baby killer? That never happened and you should really think before you post.


I never saw you defend Casey, that's for sure. :shrug:

I think you have a certain amount of sympathy for the Anthony family, who have lost a beloved grandchild/niece. That, to me, is understandable, and laudable. Not so to the majority on here.

[crimeq]

I don't understand how the grandparents current mortgage fits into the case against Casey.

There are those of us who believe that the AntFamily is living off the blood, eaten flesh and scattered bones of their murdered granddaughter ....

And we don't want to see them do so.

[AnniePie]

I never saw you defend Casey, that's for sure. :shrug:

I think you have a certain amount of sympathy for the Anthony family, who have lost a beloved grandchild/niece. That, to me, is understandable, and laudable. Not so to the majority on here.

A lot of us had sympathy for them at the beginning, but that changed when we saw how involved they were in the murder of their grandchild/niece.

I find it very difficult to have sympathy for people who obstruct justice and lie in order to keep their daughter/sister from being punished for murdering her helpless two year old.

[ish]

I think cremating Caylee's remains served several of Cindy's desires.

I think her primary motive was definitely to destroy the body for future use (and to your question, I certainly hope LE has kept evidence for future testing).

I think another reason Cindy cremated the remains was to put it right to Casey. A total "I'll show YOU" move, imo.

I think yet another reason Cindy did what she did was to hold her Cindyfest under the auspices of "memorializing Caylee," which we all know was a complete crock. I'm sure she used the excuse the "public" wanted to pay their respects, but I think the reality was Cindy wanted to put on a show in which she was the star.

my bold

I agree, Cindy was sending the message loud and clear to Casey "I am in charge, you have no say in this" "Caylee is mine now"

[marinewife5]

There are those of us who believe that the AntFamily is living off the blood, eaten flesh and scattered bones of their murdered granddaughter ....

And we don't want to see them do so.

oh, come on now....didn't you know that everyone grieves in their own way? it excuses everything they will ever do, or have ever done. and if the demise of your beloved granddaughter puts a little money in your account, well, it's like you've earned it through your loss.

jmo

[crimeq]

This is a mesage board. Some of you have been here so long that you have come to believe that this board is their lives, and its not. This board only represents your perception of the Anthony's, it is NOT representative of the Anthony's. So.. no I have not and don't expect to try and inject myself into their lives.

Please stop trying to inject yourself into OUR lives now.

Please go now and clean your house :-)

[imc_e]

A lot of us had sympathy for them at the beginning, but that changed when we saw how involved they were in the murder of their grandchild/niece.

I find it very difficult to have sympathy for people who obstruct justice and lie in order to keep their daughter/sister from being punished for murdering her helpless two year old.

Thats exactly how its been for me too Annie.

In the beginning and for quite some time, I had a good deal of empathy for the Grandparents.

I consider myself an advocate for victims and their loves ones, and that goes waay back in Court TV archives, but it became glaringly obvious that the Grandparents agenda had nothing to do with poor Caylee and seeking justice for her murder, but about making money from her death and their disloyalty to her memory as they continually fed the media their garbage about Casey.

I have no sympathy for the Anthonys, NONE of them.

Just Caylee.

May she one day be given the justice she deserves and be able to rest in peace from that evil family. :rose:

[crimeq]

I get adrenaline rush fighting with you. Thats why I'm here.

Yes you do and your nic says it all.

You are a troll, plain and simple.

[ish]

Rob relays to LE Casey's reaction to the air sample showing a decomposing body.

Tracy tells Rob about Casey's reaction. She said Casey didn't really have much of a reaction and said a lot of people had access to her trunk.

Lee goes out to the trailer and when asked about the news report. Lee said they almost had to call 911 for Casey, Cindy is a nurse so checked her bp and it was 130/80, 90 it was getting up there, she was on the toilet getting ready to puke, it is really taking a toll on her.

Ooops Lee, I guess you didn't think that Tracy, Rob and Lenny would communicate with each other.

jmo

my bold

Do we know that Lee was at the house when the news about those test results was released? I wonder if he got the "we almost had to call 911 story from Cindy, covering for Casey's lack of a reaction" It seems like something Cindy would do.

[crimeq]

I forget where I heard this, maybe NG, maybe I read it, but did anyone else hear that Casey said she wanted the COV to be Miami, so that the first place she could go when acquitted was the beach? I swear I heard that somewhere.

Yes -- to work on her tan.

[101Spots]

my bold

Do we know that Lee was at the house when the news about those test results was released? I wonder if he got the "we almost had to call 911 story from Cindy, covering for Casey's lack of a reaction" It seems like something Cindy would do.

Possibly. But I think Lee can be that underhanded/devious/moronic all by himself, too. He managed to claim the pizzas all by himself.

[Jeepers]

Bolding to address.
Talk about interfering and obstructing with a murder investigation!
They need to be made an example of.
Cindy had that car cleaned as soon as it was brought to their home.
By the time the officers came, she told them flat out that she had cleaned the car. The same car that smelled like a dead body and they knew Caylee was missing. Thats so incriminating.
She washed the pants and got rid of decomposition, DNA and any grave wax that was most likely on them.

Lickity split, they were claiming false sightings of Caylee, to further their financial agenda AND try to get their daughter off any potential murder charges.

Even after the body farm released a report that stated Caylee was decomposing in that trunk, Cindy demanded an apology and continued on with their fake sightings and media blitz.

Cindy knew Caylee was dead in the woods because of that young gentleman that brought a bag of toys/clothes/shoes? from the woods,knocked on her door and she barely looked at them, telling him no no her grand daughter was alive out there.

She knew darn well she was deceased, at the hands of her daughter, the whole time, imo.

I just don't know what else Cindy would have to have done before LE slapped the cuffs on her.
I guess I am just simple minded but, I have seen people get arrested on Cop TV Show just for asking an officer questions in reference to their friend being arrested. I just think they could arrest them for something.

[crimeq]

Here are the next court hearing dates, from the Clerk of Courts records.
Tuesday and Wednesday.

9/8/2009 10:00 AM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R
9/9/2009 15:15 PM Motion Rodriguez, Jose R

Is the hearing re: C&G answering M&M questions actually going to be with C&G answering questions, or is this the hearing to compel them to answer the questions in a future hearing?

[crimeq]

Their personal and private matters are not a part of the Non-Profit records.

They are running their fundation out of their house and taking tax writeoffs to do so.

[Sun]

Thanks Sun:)
Do you know if either of these will be DC?

I think that I read that Kasen will argue his motion to dismiss/stay on the 8th. And on the 9th, the motions to compel Cindy and George will be heard. ...I'm not sure if other motions are to be heard, as I haven't been able to keep up with all of this lately.

[ish]

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall inside the RV when Rob called Cindy on the 6/15 fight. Cindy explained it all away with they have not argued in over 6 months. Rob asked her which one of Casey's phone calls was it when Casey said 'you will never see your granddaughter again.' Cindy was shocked Rob would talk to her that way. She said the fight never happened.

:rolleyes: jmo

Was this before Cindy was all over Rob at Blanchard Park, hugging and stroking him? Must have been after cause we know Cindy wouldn't have been so friendly with Rob after he spoke to her like that.:wink:

[101Spots]

Is the hearing re: C&G answering M&M questions actually going to be with C&G answering questions, or is this the hearing to compel them to answer the questions in a future hearing?

I think this is just the judge deciding whether they have to answer or not. If he decides that they do have to answer, they make another appointment with M&M (at the Anthony's expense :D) and *then* they actually answer.

[101Spots]

Was this before Cindy was all over Rob at Blanchard Park, hugging and stroking him? Must have been after cause we know Cindy wouldn't have been so friendly with Rob after he spoke to her like that.:wink:

Blanchard Park was after the confrontation.

[crimeq]

based on it's post count, that is one NASTY house. :w00t:

LOL -- hmmmm, looking around my house --

[Imperfect4]

oh, come on now....didn't you know that everyone grieves in their own way? it excuses everything they will ever do, or have ever done. and if the demise of your beloved granddaughter puts a little money in your account, well, it's like you've earned it through your loss.

jmo

Bolded to address. I will guaran-damn-tee you that's exactly what Cindy says to herself every day, several times a day.

[Jeepers]

oh, come on now....didn't you know that everyone grieves in their own way? it excuses everything they will ever do, or have ever done. and if the demise of your beloved granddaughter puts a little money in your account, well, it's like you've earned it through your loss.

jmo

Yes, I believe it is called UGLY COPING. As long as people will throw money their way they will continue to wear their T-shirts and laugh all the way to the bank because they are entitled to it, after all they have lost a beautiful grandchild.

[Jeepers]

I have to leave for awhile. Hope everyone has a good afternoon.

[ish]

once Casey quit her job, that was the last time anyone knew where Caylee was all day long.

its mind boggling to think that not one family member or friend had a contact # OR location for her 'babysitter'. no one claimed to have known where she took her, bogus info or not. Casey never told anyone 'where' in her storytelling. Only that she had a NANNY.

Cindy claims she had her 'address', not her tele # (interview with Yuri).

yet, she doesnt drive there. because she was lying. she had nothing and that lack of knowing where her granddaughter was for almost 2 years was a poor reflection on her. so she lies. but doesnt 'get it', that by admitting she had information, she did nothing to check up on Caylee from June 15th thru July 15th.

also, she could have easily ascertained that Casey did not work for Universal.

pretty simple inquiry.

I cannot believe that Cindy never 'checked out' where Caylee was supposedly all day long, not even a drive-by way before June 15th. if she had a bogus address and DID do that, we will never know; however, if she DID find out "BOGUS!", it still reverts back to her: NOT confronting Casey about it and/or following her when she supposedly went to work or dropped Caylee off.

easy stuff if SOMEBODY CARED.

however, the main point to concentrate on: not prior to, but from June 15th onward, Cindy did not employ any resources to check up on Caylee. only asked Lee and then dropped the ball.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

If Cindy ever had an address for Zanny she would have checked it out,
same with a phone number. I think casey did at times give her bogus phone numbers and addresses. If Cindy checked them out and found them bogus, Casey covered herself with a story about Zanny moving and here's her new address.

[crimeq]

I think this is just the judge deciding whether they have to answer or not. If he decides that they do have to answer, they make another appointment with M&M (at the Anthony's expense :D) and *then* they actually answer.

Thanks :sleep: That's what I thought. More delays. But as we know the wheels of justice turn slowly.

Hahahaha, at the Ants' expense. That should keep their answers short and sweet.

[anon-o-miss]

I forget where I heard this, maybe NG, maybe I read it, but did anyone else hear that Casey said she wanted the COV to be Miami, so that the first place she could go when acquitted was the beach? I swear I heard that somewhere.
I heard that to on Nancy grace from Natisha Lance? If that's her name lol.

[Imperfect4]

my bold

Do we know that Lee was at the house when the news about those test results was released? I wonder if he got the "we almost had to call 911 story from Cindy, covering for Casey's lack of a reaction" It seems like something Cindy would do.

Jose seems to have been quite the puppet master in the early days. He might've called the house as soon as the news broke and coached the rest of the family on how to *spin* whatever jaw-droppingly inappropriate reaction Casey would surely have to the news of the decomp evidence.

Doesn't seem to me any of the Anthonys have a flipping clue how inappropriate they are. My bet is Baez spent quite a bit of time early on trying to coach the whole bunch on how to react like normal people. When he realized it was Mission Impossible, he decided to put his client in the deep freeze until the trial.

[marinewife5]

Yes, I believe it is called UGLY COPING. As long as people will throw money their way they will continue to wear their T-shirts and laugh all the way to the bank because they are entitled to it, after all they have lost a beautiful grandchild.

here is what i predict: it seems clear to me that cindy is the boss of george. george is the only one in that family that has any sense of conscience. he knows what happened. the more blood money spent, the more it will gnaw at george. all george has to lose at this point is cindy. caylee is gone. casey took caylee from george by killing her. lee has no time for george between mallory and his own wrist. cindy is unwittingly pushing george closer and closer to spilling his guts. cindy is no longer the income producing worker he fell in love with, and they have been slacking on getting the foundation funds built up. there is bound to be a woman in the greater orlando area that will be happy to support george both financially and emotionally. the second he meets her, cindy will be discarded like a bag of donated toys.

jmo

[Bala]

I think this is just the judge deciding whether they have to answer or not. If he decides that they do have to answer, they make another appointment with M&M (at the Anthony's expense :D) and *then* they actually answer.
I hope the judge orders Cindy to answer and she pulls the same crap as last time and that nice lady sheriff comes in and puts some new bracelets on Cindy and hauls her away.

[ish]

I definitely wouldn't call to get them fired as they have enough problems without my interference... :rolleyes: But I seriously doubt that any employer wants people with such lack of integrity working for his company.

Why don't they give it a try? Get a job, see if they get fired because of FLBs calling their employers. I know I'd love to see them back in the old 9-5 like the rest of us.

[SavannahStar]

Yes you do and your nic says it all.

You are a troll, plain and simple.

Troll = someone who doesn't go with the majority opinion on the case, and doesn't back down from his/her beliefs. Often is banned due to the majority "complaining" about the poster. No "live and let live" here. :biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

here is what i predict: it seems clear to me that cindy is the boss of george. george is the only one in that family that has any sense of conscience. he knows what happened. the more blood money spent, the more it will gnaw at george. all george has to lose at this point is cindy. caylee is gone. casey took caylee from george by killing her. lee has no time for george between mallory and his own wrist. cindy is unwittingly pushing george closer and closer to spilling his guts. cindy is no longer the income producing worker he fell in love with, and they have been slacking on getting the foundation funds built up. there is bound to be a woman in the greater orlando area that will be happy to support george both financially and emotionally. the second he meets her, cindy will be discarded like a bag of donated toys.

jmo

ROFLMAO!! Beautiful!!! :lol: :lol:

[SavannahStar]

Why don't they give it a try? Get a job, see if they get fired because of FLBs calling their employers. I know I'd love to see them back in the old 9-5 like the rest of us.


I keep reading about people complaining about them not working and/or "living off of" Caylee's murder. Is there any proof to this? It would seem like people would have to day-to-day keep track of their employment (if any). Does anyone do that? Or are they just surmising, and based on what?

[Imperfect4]

Troll = someone who doesn't go with the majority opinion on the case, and doesn't back down from his/her beliefs. Often is banned due to the majority "complaining" about the poster. No "live and let live" here. :biggrin:

Um, no.

Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikipedia essay, see "What is a troll?".

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

Never a good idea to supply an erroneous definition simply to suit one's agenda. :rolleyes:

[Julie Dupree]

Possibly. But I think Lee can be that underhanded/devious/moronic all by himself, too. He managed to claim the pizzas all by himself.

Did he finally admit he did not order the pizzas or how did they find out he did not?
Do we know?

[anon-o-miss]

Ok I finally listen to Cindy's tape and like everyone I am taking my migrane meds. Here is what I got out of that tape.

1. I, I, I,
2. Me Me Me Me
3. Yuri is mean ( but I have to add kinda good looking ssh I think he rejected Cindy's advancement jmo)
4. People talk to much in a restaurant.
5. Cindy is a tattletale
6. They are either at Sonnys Barbeque or Tony Roma's

and last but not least. Smile you're on I am wearing a wire. :tonguewag:

I know you warned me that is 88.47 mins of my life I will not get back
:laugh:
Excellent summarization really.... You get a medal for being hard headed enough to listen to the whole thing. :thumbsup: I didn't last 30.

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Ok I finally listen to Cindy's tape and like everyone I am taking my migrane meds. Here is what I got out of that tape.

1. I, I, I,
2. Me Me Me Me
3. Yuri is mean ( but I have to add kinda good looking ssh I think he rejected Cindy's advancement jmo)
4. People talk to much in a restaurant.
5. Cindy is a tattletale
6. They are either at Sonnys Barbeque or Tony Roma's

and last but not least. Smile you're on I am wearing a wire. :tonguewag:

I know you warned me that is 88.47 mins of my life I will not get back

You overlooked the part about the missing lanyard and zip drive, Cindy mentioned those more than she mentioned Caylee. Matt Irwin kept trying to bring the conversation to Caylee but Cindy misses her lanyard and zip drive.

[SavannahStar]

Um, no.

Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikipedia essay, see "What is a troll?".

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

Never a good idea to supply an erroneous definition simply to suit one's agenda. :rolleyes:


What is the definition of "controversial/inflamatory"? Isn't that in the eye of the beholder? Provoking others? (Maybe those who are not regular posters, and who may have different opinions?)

Truthfully, I read the Caylee forum here very seldom anymore. But when I do, I see the posters who post here daily, as being quite inflammatory in their posts.

And what is "normal, on-topic discussion"? :laugh: Never mind, I KNOW what that is, on here. Slamming the Anthonys. It's a given.

So again, anyone who does NOT "conform" is labeled a troll.

You know that though, don't you? :laugh:

[crimeq]

Um, no.

Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikipedia essay, see "What is a troll?".

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

Never a good idea to supply an erroneous definition simply to suit one's agenda. :rolleyes:

Thanks. Once again, PERFECT, Perf. :wub:

[Julie Dupree]

I just don't know what else Cindy would have to have done before LE slapped the cuffs on her.
I guess I am just simple minded but, I have seen people get arrested on Cop TV Show just for asking an officer questions in reference to their friend being arrested. I just think they could arrest them for something.

I think they haven't done anything, and I hope they don't until after the trial because as I understand it if they have been charged with anything that has to do with the case, they can plead the 5th and not have to testify.

[KittyMom]

Is Nic-A-Day really Tracey? :huh:

[Imperfect4]

What is the definition of "controversial/inflamatory"? Isn't that in the eye of the beholder? Provoking others? (Maybe those who are not regular posters, and who may have different opinions?)

Truthfully, I read the Caylee forum here very seldom anymore. But when I do, I see the posters who post here daily, as being quite inflammatory in their posts.

And what is "normal, on-topic discussion"? :laugh: Never mind, I KNOW what that is, on here. Slamming the Anthonys. It's a given.

So again, anyone who does NOT "conform" is labeled a troll.

You know that though, don't you? :laugh:

You mis-defined "troll."

I supplied the correct definition per Wikipedia.

For questions on the meaning of their definition, please consult Wikipedia.

Thank you and have a nice day. :seeya:

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Blanchard Park was after the confrontation.

I guess Cindy forgave Rob his lapse in manners by that time.:laugh: