9/5 to 9/6

[marinewife5]

I've never started a thread before....in fact it took me a while to realize we'd switched over.

Still haven't found the stones to listen to Cindy yet

[Pruddennce]

I've never started a thread before....in fact it took me a while to realize we'd switched over.

Still haven't found the stones to listen to Cindy yet

BOULDERS...forget stones....

Im fascinated with Tracy's account of the ladder/shovel story.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[MareBear]

Has anyone else noticed how Nancy Grace hasn't covered this case in a very long time? Even when there's noteworthy news (like today's doc dump), not a word about it on Nancy. I'm starting to wonder if there was a problem between Nancy and the Anthony's and she just refuses to give them anymore publicity?? Nancy isn't usually one to back away from conflict. I really miss her coverage of this case! :sad:

JMO

[marinewife5]

Has anyone else noticed how Nancy Grace hasn't covered this case in a very long time? Even when there's noteworthy news (like today's doc dump), not a word about it on Nancy. I'm starting to wonder if there was a problem between Nancy and the Anthony's and she just refuses to give them anymore publicity?? Nancy isn't usually one to back away from conflict. I really miss her coverage of this case! :sad:

JMO

I noticed that tonight...she would rather beat the dead horse that is misty cummings lie detector test than jump on new caylee info. i think it has to do with Lenny somehow

jmo

[Deannalynn]

I can't get over Lee lying and telling a houseful of people he ordered several boxes of pizza only to find out after everyone jumped in and started eating it that they had no Idea who sent the pizza's and what was really on them. Ewwwwww:w00t:

[Pruddennce]

and what is interesting about the shovel/bamboo story:

the shovel most likely will be introduced via the neighbor. he will reiterate the bamboo excuse she gave to him.

the problem with that is, and the state should focus on it somehow:

Casey states her daughter was missing for 31 days. why would she be digging up bamboo in the middle of the afternoon at the house she wasnt living at, and her daughter was abducted.

Brian Burner will further state how many times he saw her back at the house, BACKING HER CAR IN.

which will further deflate the anthonys prepared statements of 'what casey told us'...she was in and out of that house several times. and they knew it.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[marinewife5]

BOULDERS...forget stones....

Im fascinated with Tracy's account of the ladder/shovel story.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

i can't make sense of the concern over the ladder vs. bamboo coverup. and was it that big of a pool that the ladder ended up so far inside it that she needed a shovel to get it? we had a similar style pool, and unless i tossed it in, i cant imagine the ladder being so far in i would need a shovel. and would i need it so urgently i would borrow one from a neighbor? if it were actually to retrieve my daughter, even if logic told me she was dead, i would climb into that pool and get her.

it seems to me that the only problem with that convo was casey messing up the cindy-written script.

jmo

[bchand]

and what is interesting about the shovel/bamboo story:

the shovel most likely will be introduced via the neighbor. he will reiterate the bamboo excuse she gave to him.

the problem with that is, and the state should focus on it somehow:

Casey states her daughter was missing for 31 days. why would she be digging up bamboo in the middle of the afternoon at the house she wasnt living at, and her daughter was abducted.

Brian Burner will further state how many times he saw her back at the house, BACKING HER CAR IN.

which will further deflate the anthonys prepared statements of 'what casey told us'...she was in and out of that house several times. and they knew it.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*



Did you catch the part in Tracy's audio about her disguising herself as Casey leaving Baez' office? They had a white towel over her head.

Lots of game playing with this bunch. I wondered where Casey was if that was Tracy (and if she was AWOL).

[MareBear]

I noticed that tonight...she would rather beat the dead horse that is misty cummings lie detector test than jump on new caylee info. i think it has to do with Lenny somehow

jmo

Bolded by me....I think you may be onto something. IIRC one of the last episodes of Nancy Grace that featured this case was the one where Tim Miller made accusations against Lenny saying they could make big money off this case. Maybe Nancy just didn't want to be any part of this circus anymore....strange for her because her and her "bombshells" have always been front and center for every circus.....JMO

[Mamie]

I can't get over Lee lying and telling a houseful of people he ordered several boxes of pizza only to find out after everyone jumped in and started eating it that they had no Idea who sent the pizza's and what was really on them. Ewwwwww:w00t:

Oh---huh? Can you elaborate or post a link? I am so far behind on this story because of other missing people, I need to catch up and hope to do a lot of that this weekend. Thanks in advance, dear----if you can. JMO

[Imperfect4]

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/new-caylee-anthony-photos-rele.html (http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/new-caylee-anthony-photos-rele.html)

I am having serious trouble, with the swollen eyes of the more recent photos of Caylee. Looks like a complete shiner in one photo.

I've always felt that Casey had a lot to hide, abuse wise with Caylee. And that certain photos may show something. What is most disturbing of all, is that Caylee is looking at her killer in these photos, in hind site. In retrospect they are difficult to look at, because she looks disturbed, herself. And we all know why.

One photo of her very young, shows her huge eyes and I think that Casey had a problem with looking into her eyes. That is why she had those BUCKETS on her dresser of shades, always covering Caylee's eyes. It's just my personal assessment of their relationship but I've always felt she had the need to cover her face, and her eyes. Either with hats or shades, it was excessive.

In some photos we can see why. Look at the way, Caylee is looking at Casey. It's so upsetting.
:(

ITA. Several of those pics released today of that baby are completely upsetting.

[bchand]

ITA. Several of those pics released today of that baby are completely upsetting.

I thought I read on one of the local sites that some of them were taken by George on his cell phone.

[101Spots]

After wasting the better part of my day listening to tapes:

1. Lenny dropped a few hints about the person who brought him into the case. He "still works as an announcer," "not Geraldo," and something about "he went to his Fox affiliate." Who could this be?

2. Tracy said the paper/agreement she signed was not notarized, yet the copy Jose presented shows that her signature was notarized.

Things that make me go Hmmmmmmmmm...........

[Deannalynn]

Did you catch the part in Tracy's audio about her disguising herself as Casey leaving Baez' office? They had a white towel over her head.

Lots of game playing with this bunch. I wondered where Casey was if that was Tracy (and if she was AWOL).

I thought she had an ankle brace on.:confused:

[Imperfect4]

and what is interesting about the shovel/bamboo story:

the shovel most likely will be introduced via the neighbor. he will reiterate the bamboo excuse she gave to him.

the problem with that is, and the state should focus on it somehow:

Casey states her daughter was missing for 31 days. why would she be digging up bamboo in the middle of the afternoon at the house she wasnt living at, and her daughter was abducted.

Brian Burner will further state how many times he saw her back at the house, BACKING HER CAR IN.

which will further deflate the anthonys prepared statements of 'what casey told us'...she was in and out of that house several times. and they knew it.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I was babbling about this earlier today, Pru.

Cindy's and George's reaction to Casey mentioning the pool and ladder in front of Tracy on her first evening out of jail was suspicious, to say the least.

[Imperfect4]

I thought I read on one of the local sites that some of them were taken by George on his cell phone.

I thought I read that, too. Caylee looked haunted -- ill -- scared in some of those shots. Has bothered the hell out of me all day.

[bchand]

After wasting the better part of my day listening to tapes:

1. Lenny dropped a few hints about the person who brought him into the case. He "still works as an announcer," "not Geraldo," and something about "he went to his Fox affiliate." Who could this be?

2. Tracy said the paper/agreement she signed was not notarized, yet the copy Jose presented shows that her signature was notarized.

Things that make me go Hmmmmmmmmm...........

I haven't listened to Lenny's tapes at all yet. I listened to about 1/2 of Cindy's. I think I'm at the point where I just don't think either of them are relevant anymore. Neither has any credibility IMO.

[Deannalynn]

ITA. Several of those pics released today of that baby are completely upsetting.

What I wouldn't give to know what Lee was talking about when he asked Casey if it was anything like the last time.
I wonder what she did to Caylee. We will never know.

[marinewife5]

I was babbling about this earlier today, Pru.

Cindy's and George's reaction to Casey mentioning the pool and ladder in front of Tracy on her first evening out of jail was suspicious, to say the least.

it seems to me that casey is bent on deviating from the "script"....we have the sawgrass apts/shovel-for-bamboo script and the jayblanchardpark/shovel-for-the-ladder script. is casey that determined to have more control than cindy? and who wrote which script? it definately seems that there was a script that the family was to follow, but casey just couldn't stick to it. or i'm just crazy.

jmo

[imc_e]

I thought I read that, too. Caylee looked haunted -- ill -- scared in some of those shots. Has bothered the hell out of me all day.

Its the most disturbing thing today.

[Imperfect4]

Oh---huh? Can you elaborate or post a link? I am so far behind on this story because of other missing people, I need to catch up and hope to do a lot of that this weekend. Thanks in advance, dear----if you can. JMO

Mamie -- one of Lenny's stories in his interview (per people who listened, which I have not yet), was that several pizzas were delivered the day Casey was bailed out and everyone was at the Ants' house. So they're all chowing on pizzas, and Lenny asks who ordered them. Lee says HE did. Then it is somehow discovered (hope you're sitting down), Lee LIED! He didn't really order the pizzas. So Lenny went ballistic on Lee, telling him this wasn't a game and the pizzas could be from anyone, and could be laced with cyanide.

[Deannalynn]

I haven't listened to Lenny's tapes at all yet. I listened to about 1/2 of Cindy's. I think I'm at the point where I just don't think either of them are relevant anymore. Neither has any credibility IMO.

I only listened to tracy's taped interview. I couldn't get into Cindy's and I haven't tried the others yet.
Might do that at around 3 in the morning knowing me.

[bchand]

I thought she had an ankle brace on.:confused:

Maybe Tracy wore her "watch"? lol

He (George) just had to run her out the door under his umbrella. She had a poncho on and a towel over her head.

[bchand]

I only listened to tracy's taped interview. I couldn't get into Cindy's and I haven't tried the others yet.
Might do that at around 3 in the morning knowing me.

Rob's were interesting Deannalyn. He more or less just corroberated what Tracy said though.

[marinewife5]

I thought I read that, too. Caylee looked haunted -- ill -- scared in some of those shots. Has bothered the hell out of me all day.

i wish that for each photo we had more context....who took it, what time of day, specific events, etc. i know that is asking a lot. that's right up there with asking for the anthony's to deliver a true statement on anything.

jmo

[bchand]

I am in total shock and dismay. I couldn't listen to the tapes...but I did watch our beloved Kathi. I feel that she gave me a pretty good over site and then I had all of you wonderful posters keeping me up on things. Thanks to all of you.

Casey is a NUT..as Barney Fife would say.
Cindy is a Nut.." "
George is a Nut.." "
Lee is a Nut..." "..............


They're all nuts, I tell you. The whole family is nuts, Andy.


jmo

http://blueridgebluecollargirl.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/nut-family-blog.jpg

[Imperfect4]

What I wouldn't give to know what Lee was talking about when he asked Casey if it was anything like the last time.
I wonder what she did to Caylee. We will never know.

No, we won't. But the more I see/hear/read, the easier I find it to believe God himself reached down, picked up that baby, and brought her home before she suffered another day at the hands of that evil family.

[101Spots]

I only listened to tracy's taped interview. I couldn't get into Cindy's and I haven't tried the others yet.
Might do that at around 3 in the morning knowing me.

Get a 55-gallon drum of your favorite adult beverage and a straw. Better yet - rig up the drum contents and an IV drip. I'm just sayin'............

[Imperfect4]

it seems to me that casey is bent on deviating from the "script"....we have the sawgrass apts/shovel-for-bamboo script and the jayblanchardpark/shovel-for-the-ladder script. is casey that determined to have more control than cindy? and who wrote which script? it definately seems that there was a script that the family was to follow, but casey just couldn't stick to it. or i'm just crazy.

jmo

This nightmare is making us all crazy. Or more specifically, the lying liar Anthonys are making us all crazy.

[Imperfect4]

i wish that for each photo we had more context....who took it, what time of day, specific events, etc. i know that is asking a lot. that's right up there with asking for the anthony's to deliver a true statement on anything.

jmo

They'll never tell. Hell, they probably can't even remember. But Caylee's eyes tell the truth, imo. And the truth is her short life seems to have been only slightly more tolerable than her death.

[Deannalynn]

Get a 55-gallon drum of your favorite adult beverage and a straw. Better yet - rig up the drum contents and an IV drip. I'm just sayin'............

:thumbsup: I think I can find a little sumpin, sumpin around here.

[Mamie]

Mamie -- one of Lenny's stories in his interview (per people who listened, which I have not yet), was that several pizzas were delivered the day Casey was bailed out and everyone was at the Ants' house. So they're all chowing on pizzas, and Lenny asks who ordered them. Lee says HE did. Then it is somehow discovered (hope you're sitting down), Lee LIED! He didn't really order the pizzas. So Lenny went ballistic on Lee, telling him this wasn't a game and the pizzas could be from anyone, and could be laced with cyanide.

Bolding mine-------gee, and this is only one in how many lies we'll hear about he told.

Thank you very much, I4, for the update on this!:smile:

[Deannalynn]

it seems to me that casey is bent on deviating from the "script"....we have the sawgrass apts/shovel-for-bamboo script and the jayblanchardpark/shovel-for-the-ladder script. is casey that determined to have more control than cindy? and who wrote which script? it definately seems that there was a script that the family was to follow, but casey just couldn't stick to it. or i'm just crazy.

jmo

Well if it was Cindy who wrote the script about the shovel/bamboo it was stoopid. I doubt Casey ever lifted a finger around there in the yard, let alone around the pool area.
If she wanted to do something (on a regular day) she might have cleaned out that filthy car of hers. That was disgusting.

[101Spots]

:thumbsup: I think I can find a little sumpin, sumpin around here.

Do not skimp on this. Trust me. Do *NOT* skimp.

[imc_e]

I don't know how the images of Caylee released today could be from Georges cell phone because in one pic, George is in it.

I think those images are from Caseys cell phone, MO.

[Deannalynn]

Hi Ms Pru! I am also. That sounds really strange doesn't it???

But then I tend to think about the way people elaborate and I can that this Tracy is not being one hundred percent truthful.


jmo

2w4u

I noticed Tracy liked to elaborate on some things and leave other things said, alone. The most she kept repeating was Casey was a constant chatty Cathy but zero on anything to do with Caylee. I'd like to know what Tracy's back ground is. She said she was only working for Lee originally in the office. I think she got a little attached to Casey and almost forgot why she was actually there.:thumbdown:

[marinewife5]

They'll never tell. Hell, they probably can't even remember. But Caylee's eyes tell the truth, imo. And the truth is her short life seems to have been only slightly more tolerable than her death.

sad, but likely true. i would like to see photos of casey at that age.

jmo

[Imperfect4]

sad, but likely true. i would like to see photos of casey at that age.

jmo

Ever seen one of those My Little Pony toys?

:laugh:

[101Spots]

sad, but likely true. i would like to see photos of casey at that age.

jmo

I'm sure she'd be ~delighted~ to show you. With narrative, no extra charge. :rolleyes:

[happygert]

Ok finally found my way....lol..

Lot of interesting things that came out from RD and Tracey..guess good ol george wasnt so sold on casey's event's of what happened..no wonder after his testimony in the GJ hearing she was arrested for murder..they knew she killed her even before they found casey's car..

[marinewife5]

Ever seen one of those My Little Pony toys?

:laugh:


lol....so much for jose making her look good :scared:

[crimeq]

Checkin' in to the weekend thread! I just finished reading all of today's posts on the regular Caylee board, and earlier today did listen to all of Lenny, Tracy and Rob tapes. I got about half-way through Cindy's and the noise interference was too bad for me to hear what was being said, so I gave up on that and hope for a transcript.

I also want to get to the other site tonight (the one Tracy thinks has losers, LOL) and see what's being said there.

I kind of would have liked having Tracy's job, LOL :-) I remember when George and Lee were advertising for non-paid 24/7 assistants, it would be cool to be that close to the inner workings of the family but not with their conditions and "pay".

It sounds like it did make Tracy a bit nuts to be there, but wow, what a great inside perspective on the family (I get very interested in the inner workings of relationships and families and this one fascinates me, though I sure wouldn't want to be a member or even around them for "too" long).

[Imperfect4]

I'm sure she'd be ~delighted~ to show you. With narrative, no extra charge. :rolleyes:

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.

I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.

[marinewife5]

I'm sure she'd be ~delighted~ to show you. With narrative, no extra charge. :rolleyes:

after i posted that i was scared she might try to "reach out" to me from jail to share those with me!

[bchand]

I don't know how the images of Caylee released today could be from Georges cell phone because in one pic, George is in it.

I think those images are from Caseys cell phone, MO.

Casey is in 2 of them also.

This site says:

Also released were pictures of Caylee taken on her grandfather George Anthony's cell phone.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090409_Casey_Anthony_case


Another site says it's unclear who took them and another site says they were from Casey's cellphone.

[Deannalynn]

I to wonder about the "many" sunglasses Caylee had and wore a lot.
Do you suppose Caylee looked just like her biological father to the point that Casey hated her for that?
As much as Casey loves a free ride I can't believe she didn't go after the biological father for support and NO I don't believe the story about the dead father and all the garbage about him leaving anything for Caylee.

Another thing I have a problem with. Casey finding new friends to hang out with after she had Caylee. That's another reason why I wonder about the real father.

[marinewife5]

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.

I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.

ugh...i knew girls like that back in jr. high....

[crimeq]

i can't make sense of the concern over the ladder vs. bamboo coverup. and was it that big of a pool that the ladder ended up so far inside it that she needed a shovel to get it? we had a similar style pool, and unless i tossed it in, i cant imagine the ladder being so far in i would need a shovel. and would i need it so urgently i would borrow one from a neighbor? if it were actually to retrieve my daughter, even if logic told me she was dead, i would climb into that pool and get her.

it seems to me that the only problem with that convo was casey messing up the cindy-written script.

jmo

Red mine -- agree :beer:

[imc_e]

Casey is in 2 of them also.

This site says:

Also released were pictures of Caylee taken on her grandfather George Anthony's cell phone.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090409_Casey_Anthony_case


Another site says it's unclear who took them and another site says they were from Casey's cellphone.

Thanks bc :smile:

I had the feeling that I could tell who was taking the pic, based on the expression on Caylee's face. :huh:

[crimeq]

I don't know how the images of Caylee released today could be from Georges cell phone because in one pic, George is in it.

I think those images are from Caseys cell phone, MO.

I only looked through the pics one time and noted Caylee's eyes in so many, as others of you stated. I thought she looked so very lost and sad. However, IIRC in the pic where George is holding her, she seemed happy and spirited and twinkling--different.

As I said, I only looked through them one time but had that reaction to the George pic.

[crimeq]

I'm sure she'd be ~delighted~ to show you. With narrative, no extra charge. :rolleyes:

:lol::lol: Plan to spend the day, or heck, the night too! Slumber party with Show and Tell by Casey!

[crimeq]

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.

I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.

Hmmm, I wonder if she included how she paid for each :blink:

[crimeq]

Hey, happy. George was PO'ed wasn't he.

As he should have been. I think that he will be the ONE the gives Caylee the Justice that she deserves.

jmo

2w4u

George knew the decomp scent he smelled was NOT pizza, no matter what he told Cindy. He wanted the truth from Casey right then.

[marinewife5]

Hmmm, I wonder if she included how she paid for each :blink:

in her warped little mind, she's sure that her loved ones wanted her to be happy so badly, they didn't mind a little fraud and theft.

i also want to note from tracy's audio how much the jail staff loved casey....boy that sure conflicts with jose's notion that they were all plotting against her to get that jailhouse video of her finding out about remains in the empty lot.

jmo

[panokatana]

Sorry if this has been posted before..haven't had time to read everything tonight...but wasn't it typical Cindy... when Tracy related the story of how they didn't know Casey was going to be arrested and they were watching Nancy Grace and had called 911 regarding the protesters...they think the police are responding to the 911 call...when they come for Casey? Ok... There are protesters outside, media all over, the neighbors are probably aware of all this...and Cindy asks the police .. if they can't "take Casey out through the garage!" (something like that!) Heh! Still trying to protect that image...it wasn't the fact that Caylee is missing, Casey is being arrested...but what people might THINK as Casey is being led out the front door.

JMO

[crimeq]

in her warped little mind, she's sure that her loved ones wanted her to be happy so badly, they didn't mind a little fraud and theft.

i also want to note from tracy's audio how much the jail staff loved casey....boy that sure conflicts with jose's notion that they were all plotting against her to get that jailhouse video of her finding out about remains in the empty lot.

jmo

Yes, how the staff loved her, how they were sneaking her special food--I wonder about this too. However it occurred to me that when she was there the first time, she hadn't been charged yet with first degree murder. Maybe some of the staff thought it was possible that Caylee really had been kidnapped.

I'm sure she's not getting that kind of treatment now. She looked so bad in her last court appearance, I don't think anyone is giving her attention, much less "love". And she's having to buy her own pork rinds.

[happygert]

Hey, happy. George was PO'ed wasn't he.

As he should have been. I think that he will be the ONE the gives Caylee the Justice that she deserves.

jmo

2w4u

2w4u, I'd say he was.. I surely hope so.. not too sure after his preformance last week about LP and co.. But, I'm sure with his gj testimony and his interviews with LE he'll get his goose cooked if he tries the crap he tried last week..

[AnniePie]

Bolding mine-------gee, and this is only one in how many lies we'll hear about he told.

Thank you very much, I4, for the update on this!:smile:

Pssssttttt... Mamie... she's waaaaaaaaaaaaay older than 14. Shhhhh... :tongue:

I can't wait to get the full scoop on Lee. And I'm sure it isn't going to be pretty.

[crimeq]

Sorry if this has been posted before..haven't had time to read everything tonight...but wasn't it typical Cindy... when Tracy related the story of how they didn't know Casey was going to be arrested and they were watching Nancy Grace and had called 911 regarding the protesters...they think the police are responding to the 911 call...when they come for Casey? Ok... There are protesters outside, media all over, the neighbors are probably aware of all this...and Cindy asks the police .. if they can't "take Casey out through the garage!" (something like that!) Heh! Still trying to protect that image...it wasn't the fact that Caylee is missing, Casey is being arrested...but what people might THINK as Casey is being led out the front door.

JMO

Right, and the entitlement. Casey was being ARRESTED, not given special treatment!

It is so typically Cindy.

[crimeq]

Yes, last year when I read and listened to George's statements to LE and he said that put his nose down to it....that made me sick.

How could a person do that??? Let alone a Grandpa??

2w4u

Fear, denial, hoping he'd get a clue that it really was something else--huge denial.

But he knew from that instant.

[AnniePie]

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.

I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.

:laugh: ... with a touch of childbirth pain tossed in for good measure!

[marinewife5]

Yes, how the staff loved her, how they were sneaking her special food--I wonder about this too. However it occurred to me that when she was there the first time, she hadn't been charged yet with first degree murder. Maybe some of the staff thought it was possible that Caylee really had been kidnapped.

I'm sure she's not getting that kind of treatment now. She looked so bad in her last court appearance, I don't think anyone is giving her attention, much less "love". And she's having to buy her own pork rinds.

i think that in casey's mind, everyone loves her. everyone think's she's beautiful....men all want her and women want to be her. she's sitting in her cell right now fantasizing about the new "prison chic" trend she's started. she's listening to her little radio thinking about how howard stern will be cancelled any day now because she's not available to do his show. which brings me to my next point....how howard would have wanted to know her bra size and if she was having relations with jose....the bra size remark made sense, considering howard stern, but the jose remark seemed a bit strange to me. and it would fit the profile of a girl of her mental age (which i'm guessing to be around 13) to bring that up in hopes her audience would want more info. i think if that was something that happened, she would have told tracy. i think the remark shows it's something she wanted to happen.

jmo

[bchand]

Thanks bc :smile:

I had the feeling that I could tell who was taking the pic, based on the expression on Caylee's face. :huh:

YW imc_e - Talking about pictures, this is the one that always haunts me for some reason.

http://tinypic.com/r/2vcai4z/3


I think I imagine what's going through Casey's mind and that it's figuring out a way to get rid of Caylee.

[5swab5]

They'll never tell. Hell, they probably can't even remember. But Caylee's eyes tell the truth, imo. And the truth is her short life seems to have been only slightly more tolerable than her death.


Sadly, Caylee never stood a chance.
In the early days, I ...MISTAKENLY thought George would Man-Up. PFFT!!!!

Cindy took care of that in "short order"! Is George still allowed to P-P...standing up? MOO

[need2no]

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.
I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.


~my bold~


I had to delete my response to this to keep from getting a holiday vacation. Now I guess I will have to sit on my hands until these evil thoughts pass.

ITA on your 2nd paragraph and will add a colonoscopy, and dinner with Dennis Milstead to your list.

ETA: Too bad Tracy didn't notice the LE interviewer wasn't laughing along with her, and that she didn't have the good sense to get it together at some point during the interview. Gawd......

[imc_e]

YW imc_e - Talking about pictures, this is the one that always haunts me for some reason.

http://tinypic.com/r/2vcai4z/3


I think I imagine what's going through Casey's mind and that it's figuring out a way to get rid of Caylee.

Some are haunting.

She is walking with a purpose, and Caylee is just being led.

This one gets me. #13

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-caylee-anthony-pictures-090409,0,5827777.photogallery

[Imperfect4]

i think that in casey's mind, everyone loves her. everyone think's she's beautiful....men all want her and women want to be her. she's sitting in her cell right now fantasizing about the new "prison chic" trend she's started. she's listening to her little radio thinking about how howard stern will be cancelled any day now because she's not available to do his show. which brings me to my next point....how howard would have wanted to know her bra size and if she was having relations with jose....the bra size remark made sense, considering howard stern, but the jose remark seemed a bit strange to me. and it would fit the profile of a girl of her mental age (which i'm guessing to be around 13) to bring that up in hopes her audience would want more info. i think if that was something that happened, she would have told tracy. i think the remark shows it's something she wanted to happen.

jmo

Casey, while out on bail and her daughter "missing," was busy playing the "sunglass game" with Rob Dick, getting "hit up" on MySpace by random (desperate) men, talking about getting "hit" by her attorney, and God only knows what other sexcapades she was engaged in. Full on skank, that one. Rob, Jose, random MySpace men, any dude with a pulse.

[marinewife5]

Casey, while out on bail and her daughter "missing," was busy playing the "sunglass game" with Rob Dick, getting "hit up" on MySpace by random (desperate) men, talking about getting "hit" by her attorney, and God only knows what other sexcapades she was engaged in. Full on skank, that one. Rob, Jose, random MySpace men, any dude with a pulse.

does anyone else wonder if caylee's "italian father" (per tracy's audio) is Tone L. in casey's mind?

jmo

[*Serenity*]

It is in my opinion that ALL of the Anthonys- Jose - Lenny - Tony are nothing but a bunch of players! The jury is still out on what Tracy left out of her interview and I believe Rob seemed to be the most disturbed about the lying - coniving bunch.

Tony has thrown out his spill about a book to get feedback from the losers. AND Lenny has been a game player from Day ONE. He plays both sides and knows nothing. He spent zero time with Casey and I honestly think he just throws out whatever he thinks might stick to the wall. He got in way deep with the attention he was getting and he wants MORE... just like Casey and Cindy!! All of them want $$$$
and to them Caylee is not important because they all accept the fact that she is dead.

I hope the State throws Lenny to the side and doesn't even call him--he is another liar. I will never forget his memorial episode. What a joke and crock he is. IMO

I hope Nancy Grace continues to keep him off her show and throws him to the sidelines as well. He said so much BS and had everyone thinking he had the inside scoop, when he had nothing.

NOW he is in constant contact with Jose--- and from the postings at the other place Tony remains in contact with George and Cindy, and claims what fantastic wonderful people they are, he loves them.

Puke Puke and more Puke...... all of them.

Justice for Caylee will prevail -- that I am certain. Anyone that buys a book from any of the players in this tangled web will be supporting all of them off of Caylee's murder. Makes me so angry!!

Anyway- enough of my rant.
Did the other docs make it out today-- the 1,000 + pages... not that I think I can choke down anymore of this bunch, but I do want to take a scan of what they may be.

[*Serenity*]

does anyone else wonder if caylee's "italian father" (per tracy's audio) is Tone L. in casey's mind?

jmo

There is no telling what is in the mind of 'that girl'. She is one messed up chick. She messed with everyone's head she came in contact with and that is the reason she had no long term friendships!! She had to keep getting new friends because everyone caught on to her whacky ways!

Oh the nerve of 'that girl' claiming everyone was lying from the discovery. AND then the comment to Tracy about they don't even have the timeline right. OMG..... and Rob was deeply disturbed about her comment : they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing!!

Oh how did someone not throttle 'that girl'....?? I would be in some deep doo if I would have ever had contact with her. OH YEA.... deep
deep doo.... I couldn't held back. AND how in the world did LE not want to reach across the table and whack her up side the head? Man--she put everyone through some severe temptation!!

[marinewife5]

It is in my opinion that ALL of the Anthonys- Jose - Lenny - Tony are nothing but a bunch of players! The jury is still out on what Tracy left out of her interview and I believe Rob seemed to be the most disturbed about the lying - coniving bunch.

Tony has thrown out his spill about a book to get feedback from the losers. AND Lenny has been a game player from Day ONE. He plays both sides and knows nothing. He spent zero time with Casey and I honestly think he just throws out whatever he thinks might stick to the wall. He got in way deep with the attention he was getting and he wants MORE... just like Casey and Cindy!! All of them want $$$$
and to them Caylee is not important because they all accept the fact that she is dead.

I hope the State throws Lenny to the side and doesn't even call him--he is another liar. I will never forget his memorial episode. What a joke and crock he is. IMO

I hope Nancy Grace continues to keep him off her show and throws him to the sidelines as well. He said so much BS and had everyone thinking he had the inside scoop, when he had nothing.

NOW he is in constant contact with Jose--- and from the postings at the other place Tony remains in contact with George and Cindy, and claims what fantastic wonderful people they are, he loves them.

Puke Puke and more Puke...... all of them.

Justice for Caylee will prevail -- that I am certain. Anyone that buys a book from any of the players in this tangled web will be supporting all of them off of Caylee's murder. Makes me so angry!!

Anyway- enough of my rant.
Did the other docs make it out today-- the 1,000 + pages... not that I think I can choke down anymore of this bunch, but I do want to take a scan of what they may be.

the best part is, while they are all looking for fame and fortune, all they receive is hatred and mockery. i doubt that lenny or tony has anything of evidentiary value to contribute. tracy and rob may, but did they give any insight to that family that wasn't already suspected?

it was interesting to listen to, but in the end, the duct tape may be the hero in caylee's life we've all been looking for.

jmo

[*Serenity*]

I mean, like who wouldn't. No disrespect to you. But come on George...

It stinks....Hellloooo...like you have never smelled.

I hope that Inmate Anthony smells it every night.

2w4u

LOL
She aint smellin nothing pretty I can assure you of that. LMAO
She smells her own disgusting body odor and that lovely toilet right in there in her own little 'dorm' and she calls it.

:)

[*Serenity*]

the best part is, while they are all looking for fame and fortune, all they receive is hatred and mockery. i doubt that lenny or tony has anything of evidentiary value to contribute. tracy and rob may, but did they give any insight to that family that wasn't already suspected?

it was interesting to listen to, but in the end, the duct tape may be the hero in caylee's life we've all been looking for.

jmo


It made me quite ill to even read Tony was tossing the idea of a book.
OMG... GMAB
AND his comments about the nice girl Casey is... talk about whacked!!
She can prepare a mean dish of mac cheese. AND the words -- exact words even- he loves George and Cindy. barf and double barf

[marinewife5]

It made me quite ill to even read Tony was tossing the idea of a book.
OMG... GMAB
AND his comments about the nice girl Casey is... talk about whacked!!
She can prepare a mean dish of mac cheese. AND the words -- exact words even- he loves George and Cindy. barf and double barf

to this day (most recently, yesterday) my mother reminds me to watch the company i keep, as it mirrors who i am.

jmo

[Deannalynn]

It is in my opinion that ALL of the Anthonys- Jose - Lenny - Tony are nothing but a bunch of players! The jury is still out on what Tracy left out of her interview and I believe Rob seemed to be the most disturbed about the lying - coniving bunch.

Tony has thrown out his spill about a book to get feedback from the losers. AND Lenny has been a game player from Day ONE. He plays both sides and knows nothing. He spent zero time with Casey and I honestly think he just throws out whatever he thinks might stick to the wall. He got in way deep with the attention he was getting and he wants MORE... just like Casey and Cindy!! All of them want $$$$
and to them Caylee is not important because they all accept the fact that she is dead.

I hope the State throws Lenny to the side and doesn't even call him--he is another liar. I will never forget his memorial episode. What a joke and crock he is. IMO

I hope Nancy Grace continues to keep him off her show and throws him to the sidelines as well. He said so much BS and had everyone thinking he had the inside scoop, when he had nothing.

NOW he is in constant contact with Jose--- and from the postings at the other place Tony remains in contact with George and Cindy, and claims what fantastic wonderful people they are, he loves them.

Puke Puke and more Puke...... all of them.

Justice for Caylee will prevail -- that I am certain. Anyone that buys a book from any of the players in this tangled web will be supporting all of them off of Caylee's murder. Makes me so angry!!

Anyway- enough of my rant.
Did the other docs make it out today-- the 1,000 + pages... not that I think I can choke down anymore of this bunch, but I do want to take a scan of what they may be.

Good post and thought process Serenity...You have them all just about pegged.
It's quite sad that all these volchers are swarming around caylee's murder to advance their careers or for financial gain. :glare:

[Deannalynn]

LOL
She aint smellin nothing pretty I can assure you of that. LMAO
She smells her own disgusting body odor and that lovely toilet right in there in her own little 'dorm' and she calls it.

:)

Do you think she regrets what she did to Caylee. Not just because she's sorry but because of where she's sitting right now and can not run around like she did before. I wonder if she sits and thinks about what other means she could have approached besides murdering her baby girl.
Like putting her up for adoption or allowing Cindy to take full guardianship.
What I do think is Cindy really never wanted full guardianship or adopting Caylee. I think that was Cindy's way of controlling Casey. You know, threatening her.
The sad part is she never thought in a million that her own daughter thought Caylee was nothing but in the way and a burden.

[AnniePie]

to this day (most recently, yesterday) my mother reminds me to watch the company i keep, as it mirrors who i am.

jmo

Well, that's good advice... and look at the company you DO keep! We's all good!! :laugh:

[marinewife5]

Well, that's good advice... and look at the company you DO keep! We's all good!! :laugh:

no matter what tracy or cindy says! a group of people who have made time in their lives in search of truth and justice for victims....perhaps they should try it?

LE would have had far more fruitful interviews had any of us been in that house!

[Deannalynn]

Well, that's good advice... and look at the company you DO keep! We's all good!! :laugh:

Hey Annie...
Just got finished "attempting" to listen to what Rob Dick had to say to the Sheriffs office and the FBI. That strike two for me.
So far I have been able to listen to Tracy's interview. Can't get Cindy's and now Roberts interview stopped right after he Identified himself.
This really stinks.:sneaky:

[summer4meplz]

I noticed that tonight...she would rather beat the dead horse that is misty cummings lie detector test than jump on new caylee info. i think it has to do with Lenny somehow

jmo

I think, for no particular reason, that is has to do with cindy....

[marinewife5]

I think, for no particular reason, that is has to do with cindy....

could be. but i don't see nancy being intimidated by her. of course, with this case, nothing would surprise me, short of one of those photobooth picture sequences with cindy and yuri together smiling and hamming it up. that would surprise me.

jmo

[panokatana]

After reading here almost every day for a year, I sort of thought most of the world did, too! Today, at the office, I was sharing the news with my corporate colleagues regarding the release of the new information in the Casey Anthony case. The majority of folks didn't really know much about it...one even asked if she was the one who drove her kids into the LAKE (fgs!!)
Just now, I was perusing the Most Viewed news stories on Yahoo...and the document release wasn't even mentioned and I scrolled down pretty far. I can't seem to grasp the fact that everyone ELSE isn't as familiar with this as WE are! I guess Casey's autographed photos won't bring as much as she expected, huh? Do many of you experience this same lack of knowledge about the case in your local real worlds? (I'm in Ga.)


JMO

[Deannalynn]

I think, for no particular reason, that is has to do with cindy....

I think it's difficult to have a show on the specifics of a case when all the th know everything is a lie. How can they give out anything facts when all they will hear is, liars, liars, liars..
There is only so much show that can be done after you let the viewers know about the interviews with Lenny and his posse. Cindy is certainly the same story. Can't believe a word she says.
I didn't know NG had a problem with LP. I am assuming so by what I'm reading here???:confused:

[marinewife5]

After reading here almost every day for a year, I sort of thought most of the world did, too! Today, at the office, I was sharing the news with my corporate colleagues regarding the release of the new information in the Casey Anthony case. The majority of folks didn't really know much about it...one even asked if she was the one who drove her kids into the LAKE (fgs!!)
Just now, I was perusing the Most Viewed news stories on Yahoo...and the document release wasn't even mentioned and I scrolled down pretty far. I can't seem to grasp the fact that everyone ELSE isn't as familiar with this as WE are! I guess Casey's autographed photos won't bring as much as she expected, huh? Do many of you experience this same lack of knowledge about the case in your local real worlds? (I'm in Ga.)


JMO


yes, i do have that same experience. i really don't see there being a need for a change of venue. even in orlando, not everyone follows this case as closely as we do. they see the headlines now and then, but it's just one of many news stories in that area.

jmo

[Pruddennce]

Well if it was Cindy who wrote the script about the shovel/bamboo it was stoopid. I doubt Casey ever lifted a finger around there in the yard, let alone around the pool area.
If she wanted to do something (on a regular day) she might have cleaned out that filthy car of hers. That was disgusting.

the problem is they are all nonsensical: THEY FORGET THAT SHE SAID CAYLEE WAS GONE ON JUNE 16TH, park, sawgrass, whatever, (all lies)....so why would she be bopping back into the home, borrowing a shovel to dig up bamboo? while her daughter is KIDNAPPED?

the state is going to have quite a day in court regarding the shovel....as well as testimony from the neighbor: several trips back to the home, BACKING HER CAR INTO THE DRIVEWAY....and one of those days is SHOVEL DAY....

the shovel story needs only one preface by the state: her daughter was supposedly kidnapped and she has a spell of urgency, not about Caylee, but about a bamboo root....at a house she was no longer living in.

the incidental story by Tracy: shovel/pool ladder. again, why would she be home, borrowing a shovel, to assist her in getting the pool ladder out of the pool....while her daughter is KIDNAPPED?

IT MAKES NO SENSE!

however......it WILL make alot of sense to the jurors.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[AnniePie]

Hey Annie...
Just got finished "attempting" to listen to what Rob Dick had to say to the Sheriffs office and the FBI. That strike two for me.
So far I have been able to listen to Tracy's interview. Can't get Cindy's and now Roberts interview stopped right after he Identified himself.
This really stinks.:sneaky:

I haven't even attempted RD's. I listened to part of Cindy's, all of Lenny's and all of Tracy's... and I am seriously burned out with all of them. I might attempt Rob's tomorrow but only if I have a really good sleep tonight.

[*Serenity*]

Good post and thought process Serenity...You have them all just about pegged.
It's quite sad that all these volchers are swarming around caylee's murder to advance their careers or for financial gain. :glare:

I fogot to toss ALyon in the mix. Another one that fits right in with this crew. OH my and the Milsteads.

Sheesh-- how long is the gravy train??

[Deannalynn]

After reading here almost every day for a year, I sort of thought most of the world did, too! Today, at the office, I was sharing the news with my corporate colleagues regarding the release of the new information in the Casey Anthony case. The majority of folks didn't really know much about it...one even asked if she was the one who drove her kids into the LAKE (fgs!!)
Just now, I was perusing the Most Viewed news stories on Yahoo...and the document release wasn't even mentioned and I scrolled down pretty far. I can't seem to grasp the fact that everyone ELSE isn't as familiar with this as WE are! I guess Casey's autographed photos won't bring as much as she expected, huh? Do many of you experience this same lack of knowledge about the case in your local real worlds? (I'm in Ga.)


JMO

My mother is in the state of California and I'm in Nebraska. She heard about this case. Other than that I don't think the entire country is on this like we are on this message board.
It's a shame that things like this happen and people just think it's an ordinary day in this whacked out country of ours with all these whacked out people.
Right now everyone's seems to be concentrating on the Jaycee abduction.
What will next week bring.:sad:

[AnniePie]

could be. but i don't see nancy being intimidated by her. of course, with this case, nothing would surprise me, short of one of those photobooth picture sequences with cindy and yuri together smiling and hamming it up. that would surprise me.

jmo

Hmmm... you have a very strange mind, mw. I like it. :laugh:

[marinewife5]

Hmmm... you have a very strange mind, mw. I like it. :laugh:

it keeps me from throwing the laptop across the room everytime i have an "anthony" moment. they make me want to fly to orlando and "reach out" to them.

my sister just finished a custody battle with the pennsylvania version of the anthony's. the only difference in behavior was the son and daughter were opposite of lee and casey in personality. i sometimes wish that sociopathic tendancies were legal cause for forced sterilization. i know it's not moral or ethical. but a girl can dream :blushing:

jmo

[AnniePie]

After reading here almost every day for a year, I sort of thought most of the world did, too! Today, at the office, I was sharing the news with my corporate colleagues regarding the release of the new information in the Casey Anthony case. The majority of folks didn't really know much about it...one even asked if she was the one who drove her kids into the LAKE (fgs!!)
Just now, I was perusing the Most Viewed news stories on Yahoo...and the document release wasn't even mentioned and I scrolled down pretty far. I can't seem to grasp the fact that everyone ELSE isn't as familiar with this as WE are! I guess Casey's autographed photos won't bring as much as she expected, huh? Do many of you experience this same lack of knowledge about the case in your local real worlds? (I'm in Ga.)


JMO

Not a lot of my friends follow crime stories the way I do, so I'm not terribly surprised that they don't really know much about this one.

I think it's the state of the world, pano! There are so many horrifying and grizzy new cases day after day after day that I think people forget about the older ones and just focus on the horror of the newer ones while they're "fresh" in their minds.

[need2no]

I haven't even attempted RD's. I listened to part of Cindy's, all of Lenny's and all of Tracy's... and I am seriously burned out with all of them. I might attempt Rob's tomorrow but only if I have a really good sleep tonight.

FYI Annie....you've saved the best for last. Rob's is by far the easiest one to listen to, IMO.

[Deannalynn]

Not a lot of my friends follow crime stories the way I do, so I'm not terribly surprised that they don't really know much about this one.

I think it's the state of the world, pano! There are so many horrifying and grizzy new cases day after day after day that I think people forget about the older ones and just focus on the horror of the newer ones while they're "fresh" in their minds.

The bummer about this case is we rarely hear anything that has anything to do with the Anthony's that we see "Breaking news".
I do know when the time comes this trial will be um,,,unique.:scared:

[Deannalynn]

it keeps me from throwing the laptop across the room everytime i have an "anthony" moment. they make me want to fly to orlando and "reach out" to them.

my sister just finished a custody battle with the pennsylvania version of the anthony's. the only difference in behavior was the son and daughter were opposite of lee and casey in personality. i sometimes wish that sociopathic tendancies were legal cause for forced sterilization. i know it's not moral or ethical. but a girl can dream :blushing:

jmo

Yeah, I think the majority of us would like to go to Orlando and...Reach out and touch.:thumbsup:

[*Serenity*]

FYI Annie....you've saved the best for last. Rob's is by far the easiest one to listen to, IMO.


Absoutely!

He is easy to listen to and follow along-- plus he gave me a pretty good visual of Casey and their little trips to LB office.

:)

The day he and Tracy came up with the 'iggy' feature for Casey was a hoot. It just killed her...!! lol

[crimeq]

Do you think she regrets what she did to Caylee. Not just because she's sorry but because of where she's sitting right now and can not run around like she did before. I wonder if she sits and thinks about what other means she could have approached besides murdering her baby girl.
Like putting her up for adoption or allowing Cindy to take full guardianship.
What I do think is Cindy really never wanted full guardianship or adopting Caylee. I think that was Cindy's way of controlling Casey. You know, threatening her.
The sad part is she never thought in a million that her own daughter thought Caylee was nothing but in the way and a burden.

I wonder what Cindy thought about her own children. Were they in the way too, when she was raising them? Did they get in the way of anything she wished to do or accomplish?

From Tracy's description, Casey and Lee have very similar personalities and are both demanding people ("don't come in here if you have a closed mind" or something like that).

They are chips off the old block (Cindy) but I wonder how Cindy mothered and nurtured her own two children.

[need2no]

Absoutely!

He is easy to listen to and follow along-- plus he gave me a pretty good visual of Casey and their little trips to LB office.

:)

The day he and Tracy came up with the 'iggy' feature for Casey was a hoot. It just killed her...!! lol

I loved that plan and it worked like a charm!


You know at this point I think Rob is the only one of the circus bunch that uh..... I'll just say has his light bulb screwed in properly.

[Deannalynn]

I wonder what Cindy thought about her own children. Were they in the way too, when she was raising them? Did they get in the way of anything she wished to do or accomplish?

From Tracy's description, Casey and Lee have very similar personalities and are both demanding people ("don't come in here if you have a closed mind" or something like that).

They are chips off the old block (Cindy) but I wonder how Cindy mothered and nurtured her own two children.

Liars liars liars the same as she is, I imagine.:sneaky:

I had my my first at 24 and my second at 39. 15 years apart but I raised them the same way. Now, when my Grand daughter comes to visit I spoil her but IF I was raising her I would do what I already know. The same as my other two.
:huh: But, who knows with Cindy because she is whacked.

[*Serenity*]

I loved that plan and it worked like a charm!


You know at this point I think Rob is the only one of the circus bunch that uh..... I'll just say has his light bulb screwed in properly.

Rob needs to remove himself completely away from Lenny & Tony..!
He has a great dis-like for the entire Anthony crew... at least that is the way I perceived the tape.

LOL... Casey and wanting to know about the helicopter... and then to continue saying the helicopter would be around later. OMG...!!
She probably thought she was right up with Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan. ROFLMAO that's why she wore the big sun-glasses that she stole with Amy's money. Oh and the short shorts with the tight blue shirt...!! The gonads of her to carry her binder with Caylee's photo dangling from it. :cursing:

[AnniePie]

Absoutely!

He is easy to listen to and follow along-- plus he gave me a pretty good visual of Casey and their little trips to LB office.

:)

The day he and Tracy came up with the 'iggy' feature for Casey was a hoot. It just killed her...!! lol

Arrrrggghhh... don't tempt me to listen to that interview right now! :cursing: It's too late. I'm old. I'm taard. Whine...

[farrahrani]

yay for broadband :D

I listened to Tracy and Padilla...only got as far as Cindy and Matt getting to the lunch and then background noise made it too hard to hear. Had the same error with Rob D's interview others are having, it cuts off after the introduction.

I don't know if anyone has commented on some of this, in quite the same way cause i'm too worn out with burning eyes and allergy attacks to try and keep up but this is what I got from the interviews:

The pizza deliveries? I think Lee was a little abashed and didn't want to admit all wasn't hunky dory to Padilla. He KNEW what all those pizzas were about. I'm not going to go as far as say shame, cause we are talking about an Anthony here. I think it might have been the closest thing someone from that family could have come to an appropriate emotion, almost embarrassment at being called out on the stupid lies being put out in the public.

Tracy pretty much confirmed what a lot of us were thinking all along: Casey is a thirteen year old kid in a woman's body. I mean...matching outfits? Making her listen to song's that she thinks is her life? Wearing a watch on her ankle so they match? WTH>!> It's like any kind of attention is a positive. Any normal human being over the age of fourteen would be humiliated about that thing, and wear socks or long pants over it, and draw as little attention to it as possible. Instead, Casey turned it into a fashion accessory. And listening to the news, trying to say that 'lots of people' had access to her car...:sneaky: Come on, WHY would lots of people have access to her car? All her 'friends' worked for a living and had their own cars, why would they need her---nvm, I'm gonna stop right there, trying to reason with some of this is gonna make my brain explode.

Turning the convos back to herself every time Caylee was mentioned...definitely an attention hound, and Cindy is no better, sniffling at that song and saying it was hers, too...ew...

Yeah, in Casey's eyes, it was a big old girly slumber party.

And her wanting to take her lie detector test...'for Jose'...not to clear herself, or to get the investigation off of her, and back onto her 'missing' child, but for her new honeybun ...Makes me want to barf I'd better stop while I'm still able to see somewhat clearly...

[Deannalynn]

Rob needs to remove himself completely away from Lenny & Tony..!
He has a great dis-like for the entire Anthony crew... at least that is the way I perceived the tape.

LOL... Casey and wanting to know about the helicopter... and then to continue saying the helicopter would be around later. OMG...!!
She probably thought she was right up with Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan. ROFLMAO that's why she wore the big sun-glasses that she stole with Amy's money. Oh and the short shorts with the tight blue shirt...!! The gonads of her to carry her binder with Caylee's photo dangling from it. :cursing:

It's too bad they don't have cable T.V. with only lock up showing, where Casey is. I would like her to see reality since she's just in regular jail away from the real deal. Scare the Hilton and Lohan right out of her.
In due time I say, In due time.:biggrin:

[seeing_eye]

After reading here almost every day for a year, I sort of thought most of the world did, too! Today, at the office, I was sharing the news with my corporate colleagues regarding the release of the new information in the Casey Anthony case. The majority of folks didn't really know much about it...one even asked if she was the one who drove her kids into the LAKE (fgs!!)
Just now, I was perusing the Most Viewed news stories on Yahoo...and the document release wasn't even mentioned and I scrolled down pretty far. I can't seem to grasp the fact that everyone ELSE isn't as familiar with this as WE are! I guess Casey's autographed photos won't bring as much as she expected, huh? Do many of you experience this same lack of knowledge about the case in your local real worlds? (I'm in Ga.)


JMO

I know only one person I can talk to about this case. It's a friend of mine who just happened to have been visiting me several times as I was watching NG. Most of what she saw went over her head and she will ask about the case periodically (only because she knows my interest in it), but it's obvious she doesn't know too much about it at all. And she's really not that interested to find out more. Every one else I know (in person) has not the foggiest idea who I'm talking about when I mention the case. I guess every body else has lives - and are not losers!! :laugh:

[Deannalynn]

I'm listening to Lenny right now...He seems like a bit of a blow heart.
jmo

[seeing_eye]

it keeps me from throwing the laptop across the room everytime i have an "anthony" moment. they make me want to fly to orlando and "reach out" to them.

my sister just finished a custody battle with the pennsylvania version of the anthony's. the only difference in behavior was the son and daughter were opposite of lee and casey in personality. i sometimes wish that sociopathic tendancies were legal cause for forced sterilization. i know it's not moral or ethical. but a girl can dream :blushing:

jmo

I think forced sterilization is not such a bad idea for a lot of people!

[*Serenity*]

It's too bad they don't have cable T.V. with only lock up showing, where Casey is. I would like her to see reality since she's just in regular jail away from the real deal. Scare the Hilton and Lohan right out of her.
In due time I say, In due time.:biggrin:


One of her favorite shows listed on one of her many web pages... was
Prison Escape. How flippin ironic...!!

[*Serenity*]

I'm listening to Lenny right now...He seems like a bit of a blow heart.
jmo

He has been nothing but trouble with a capital T since he rode into town on that horse of his. He doesn't know anything! Casey even ordered him out of HER house. Have you ever noticed how she always calls it her house? Even the first jail house phone call home when she was talking with Christina, asking who was at her house? Convinced Amy that Hopepsring was her house. She's a nutjob through and through. She had no problems at all murdering sweet Caylee and after watching her rage in that one jail house video.... I can picture her in a full blown rage killing Caylee. Many of the photos released show a very scared Caylee in her facial expressions.... and I'm sure Casey was mean as he$$ to that baby. She kept her in the car seat most of her life and I can just imagine Casey yelling at her if she said anything while on the phone with all of her lover boys.

Poor Caylee Bug..... so so sad..!!
She is at peace now and away from that dark hole of evil surrounding her every waking moment. Finally- she is in loving arms and has plenty of little play mates. This sounds so horrible, but so very true... since Caylee's life on earth would have been a continued hell, she really is in a better place. God's plan is not finished yet-- he is still dealing with the rest of them.

[Amy]

yes, i do have that same experience. i really don't see there being a need for a change of venue. even in orlando, not everyone follows this case as closely as we do. they see the headlines now and then, but it's just one of many news stories in that area.

jmo

That's my feelings on most of these cases. Even in high profile cases there are many local folk who don't pay much attention to the case @ all. Even if it is on the local news (I must admit, it's been MONTHS since I've listened to the local news around here.) Some don't read the papers much. Don't tell Cindy or Casey, but some people are so involved in their own trials and tribulations that they don't have the time to focus on someone else's.

[newsjunkie]

I think it's difficult to have a show on the specifics of a case when all the th know everything is a lie. How can they give out anything facts when all they will hear is, liars, liars, liars..
There is only so much show that can be done after you let the viewers know about the interviews with Lenny and his posse. Cindy is certainly the same story. Can't believe a word she says.
I didn't know NG had a problem with LP. I am assuming so by what I'm reading here???:confused:


It wasn't about LP.
Her network added up the CA hours , the ratings were plunging......not everyone wants to hear one case over and over and over when there are so many other cases out there.
People complained. *we really are in the minority*

[Sun]

Good morning everyone! ooooo, Casey is going to be so mad that Tracy talked about things that Casey wanted to be kept "private" (just bewteen the two of them). Guess that Tracy probably won't be getting a Christmas card from you-know-who this year.

[Sun]

Tracy said Casey was so annoying that nobody could be around her for a long period of time and said she had no friends even though she talked to all the people that she did.

[desmom]

and what is interesting about the shovel/bamboo story:

the shovel most likely will be introduced via the neighbor. he will reiterate the bamboo excuse she gave to him.

the problem with that is, and the state should focus on it somehow:

Casey states her daughter was missing for 31 days. why would she be digging up bamboo in the middle of the afternoon at the house she wasnt living at, and her daughter was abducted.

Brian Burner will further state how many times he saw her back at the house, BACKING HER CAR IN.

which will further deflate the anthonys prepared statements of 'what casey told us'...she was in and out of that house several times. and they knew it.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

and how the heck do you use a shovel to get a ladder out of a pool?

Yesterday, Imperfect4 did a fantastic job transcribing that portion of Tracy's tape: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13438903&highlight=shovel#post13438903

This is soooo weird:

At 7:27 on the Tracy tape …

So we’re sitting in the kitchen and they start bringing up the shovel. And I’m just sitting there – this is my little thing, I’d sit there and play with my phone and act like I’m not paying attention. She starts talking about the shovel and she says, “Well hello, they didn’t even have the time line right.” And her mom says, “No.” Casey says, “They didn’t have the time line right.” And then her mom said, “Yeah, they didn’t even know what you were doing.” She goes “Hello! I was using it to knock the bamboo down.” And then she said, “And get the ladder out of the pool.” And as soon as she said that, I’m sitting like this, her mom looks at her like “Shut up.” George walks in from the back room, shaking his head (I’m not supposed to see), getting in the cupboard. Like “Just drop that.” So that’s when she said “getting the ladder out of the pool.” That’s what she needed the ladder for.

Why did both Cindy and George react to Casey mentioning the pool ladder to Tracy?

Another question re the pool ladder, the A's made such a big deal telling LE about child proofing the house with cabinet locks and putting a padlock on the shed, etc. Why didn't they invest in a ladder guard or a child safety ladder?

I am not sold on Caylee drowned in the pool. IMO, natural instinct would have been to grab the phone and call 911. It would have been an automatic without even thinking. I think whatever happened to Caylee happened at the hand of her mother and did not involve the pool.

jmo

[Barbara fl.]

Good morning everyone! ooooo, Casey is going to be so mad that Tracy talked about things that Casey wanted to be kept "private" (just bewteen the two of them). Guess that Tracy probably won't be getting a Christmas card from you-know-who this year.

Oh, she will get a Christmas card alright....from Cindy probably...but it will probably be more like :cursing:

[desmom]

I thought she had an ankle brace on.:confused:

The ankle bracelet story Tracy told made me laugh. For those that have not listened to Tracy's interview...

Casey made Tracy put a wristwatch on her ankle. Casey said they could paint it blue so they would have matching ankle bracelets. Tracy's was a wristwatch and Casey's was the court monitoring ankle bracelet.

I am still shaking my head over that one. :lol:

jmo

[Barbara fl.]

and how the heck do you use a shovel to get a ladder out of a pool?

Yesterday, Imperfect4 did a fantastic job transcribing that portion of Tracy's tape: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13438903&highlight=shovel#post13438903



Another question re the pool ladder, the A's made such a big deal telling LE about child proofing the house with cabinet locks and putting a padlock on the shed, etc. Why didn't they invest in a ladder guard or a child safety ladder?

I am not sold on Caylee drowned in the pool. IMO, natural instinct would have been to grab the phone and call 911. It would have been an automatic without even thinking. I think whatever happened to Caylee happened at the hand of her mother and did not involve the pool.

jmo

Good morning evryone,


Exactly....No way was this a drowning....the duct tape will get rid of that theory.....And if that was the case, there would have been no reason for Casey not to call 911, she would have been rid of her problem and free to do what she wanted....

No, drowning is not going to go over well...The duct tape was the murder weapon.. JMO

[Lavinia]

~my bold~


I had to delete my response to this to keep from getting a holiday vacation. Now I guess I will have to sit on my hands until these evil thoughts pass.

ITA on your 2nd paragraph and will add a colonoscopy, and dinner with Dennis Milstead to your list.

ETA: Too bad Tracy didn't notice the LE interviewer wasn't laughing along with her, and that she didn't have the good sense to get it together at some point during the interview. Gawd......

I will see your additions and raise you a kidney stone and a spinal tap (although you almost got me with Dennis Milstead and dinner. :eek:).

I'm kind of wondering about the ankle bracelet story. The only thing I have that is slender are my ankles and wrists. I have to get small dial watches and take my watches down to the last, or next to the last notch on the bracelet yet I'm pretty sure I couldn't get a watch on my ankle. Could you guys?

[Sun]

and how the heck do you use a shovel to get a ladder out of a pool?

Yesterday, Imperfect4 did a fantastic job transcribing that portion of Tracy's tape: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13438903&highlight=shovel#post13438903



Another question re the pool ladder, the A's made such a big deal telling LE about child proofing the house with cabinet locks and putting a padlock on the shed, etc. Why didn't they invest in a ladder guard or a child safety ladder?

I am not sold on Caylee drowned in the pool. IMO, natural instinct would have been to grab the phone and call 911. It would have been an automatic without even thinking. I think whatever happened to Caylee happened at the hand of her mother and did not involve the pool.

jmo

I have seen the Anthonys' pool ladder. I can't think of any way that it could get "in the pool" where a shovel would be needed to retrieve it. Usually when the Anthonys say something that doesn't make sense, it means they are lying. :wink:

[Sun]

Good morning evryone,


Exactly....No way was this a drowning....the duct tape will get rid of that theory.....And if that was the case, there would have been no reason for Casey not to call 911, she would have been rid of her problem and free to do what she wanted....

No, drowning is not going to go over well...The duct tape was the murder weapon.. JMO

No need to use duct tape on a drowning victim, you're right. Casey killed Caylee over jealousy. Caylee was stealing the attention that Casey wanted for herself. "Tony only wanted boys."

[KittyMom]

I got the impression (from the tapes) that Rob and Tracey don't think much of LP. Bet he gives them a call after hearing their interviews. lol

Did it ever get cleared up yesterday as to whether Tracey did send Casey money for her jail acct?

[desmom]

I will see your additions and raise you a kidney stone and a spinal tap (although you almost got me with Dennis Milstead and dinner. :eek:).

I'm kind of wondering about the ankle bracelet story. The only thing I have that is slender are my ankles and wrists. I have to get small dial watches and take my watches down to the last, or next to the last notch on the bracelet yet I'm pretty sure I couldn't get a watch on my ankle. Could you guys?

Not even on a good day when they are not swollen. :tonguewag:

I picture Casey sitting in her bedroom making a new band for the watch out of all her bracelet making supplies.

The more I see of Casey - pics of her bedroom, her craft and photo book craft making supplies, witness statements re Casey, the more I think Casey was immature for her age especially being a mother. Children have a way of making one grow up - fast.

Well that didn't come out right... i.e Casey's beads are what I see the grade school age children using. I think they are called pony beads. By the time they are Casey's age, they are more into the smaller glass beads. Her scrapbooking supplies appear to be pretty juvenile too imo.

[KittyMom]

I think Baez really screwed up by not going with a mental/emotional illness def. The girl's actions scream that something's not right in her head. A good atty would use that to their advantage considering all the evidence that was there from the very beginning.

I'll bet Cindy won't be able to keep her mouth shut this weekend. She's going to be so upset that she'll just have to mouth-off at someone.

[desmom]

I think Baez really screwed up by not going with a mental/emotional illness def. The girl's actions scream that something's not right in her head. A good atty would use that to their advantage considering all the evidence that was there from the very beginning.

I'll bet Cindy won't be able to keep her mouth shut this weekend. She's going to be so upset that she'll just have to mouth-off at someone.

I agree especially if Cindy reads:

Casey Anthony: Witness says she's very likable, but a whacko
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-witness-says-shes-very-likable-but-a-whacko.html

and

Casey Anthony: Witness says she was cold, talking chloroform
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-witness-says-she-was-unemotional-uninterested.html

[Lavinia]

Not even on a good day when they are not swollen. :tonguewag:

I picture Casey sitting in her bedroom making a new band for the watch out of all her bracelet making supplies.

The more I see of Casey - pics of her bedroom, her craft and photo book craft making supplies, witness statements re Casey, the more I think Casey was immature for her age especially being a mother. Children have a way of making one grow up - fast.

Well that didn't come out right... i.e Casey's beads are what I see the grade school age children using. I think they are called pony beads. By the time they are Casey's age, they are more into the smaller glass beads. Her scrapbooking supplies appear to be pretty juvenile too imo.

Her handwriting looks like a young girls does also. Plus the Casey + TonE stuff. :rolleyes: Yikes. Definitely middle school, high school at the latest.

[sydney]

I have seen the Anthonys' pool ladder. I can't think of any way that it could get "in the pool" where a shovel would be needed to retrieve it. Usually when the Anthonys say something that doesn't make sense, it means they are lying. :wink:

good morning everyone!

is their pool an above-ground? if so, how high is it? sorry - just working on first cuppa joe. looks like i'll need a LOT more to get thru everything that's been released.

[desmom]

Her handwriting looks like a young girls does also. Plus the Casey + TonE stuff. :rolleyes: Yikes. Definitely middle school, high school at the latest.

With the little drawn heart after her name.... page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

[really3997]

good morning everyone!

is their pool an above-ground? if so, how high is it? sorry - just working on first cuppa joe. looks like i'll need a LOT more to get thru everything that's been released.

If I remember it is pretty high. Also IIRC BB did not mention the shovel being wet when it was returned. But I agree the math is not there to get a big ladder with a little shovel jmo

[Lavinia]

With the little drawn heart after her name.... page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

Yeah, seems she was into hearts alright. :glare: Grrrr. :cursing: I wonder if we'll hear why her development is so retarded? I have no doubt *that* will cause some 'throw under the bus' testimony.

[sydney]

If I remember it is pretty high. Also IIRC BB did not mention the shovel being wet when it was returned. But I agree the math is not there to get a big ladder with a little shovel jmo

mornin' really!

kc's pretty short, right? so did she STAND on something to see over the sides of the pool? and did the ladder float? if it sunk to the bottom, how on earth would a shovel get it out? and why did she feel the need to get the ladder out of the pool when she didn't live there anymore? wouldn't it make more sense to climb on something, get into the pool and put the ladder back? these are all rhetorical questions, of course.

her whole story is so full of holes it's not even funny. if baez expects a jury to believe this carp, he must think he'll get a bunch of illiterate morons with iq's lower than his shoe size for a jury.

[desmom]

good morning everyone!

is their pool an above-ground? if so, how high is it? sorry - just working on first cuppa joe. looks like i'll need a LOT more to get thru everything that's been released.

It is above ground. IIRC, there was a pic of Cindy and Caylee in the pool. The water was about mid chest on Cindy. I think George told LE it was a 4 foot pool. Would that make the sidewalls around 4 1/2 feet?

ETA ~ you can see the pool ladder and a little bit of the pool at 6:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuytbDbzIOk

[sydney]

It is above ground. IIRC, there was a pic of Cindy and Caylee in the pool. The water was about mid chest on Cindy. I think George told LE it was a 4 foot pool. Would that make the sidewalls around 4 1/2 feet?

ETA ~ you can see the pool ladder and a little bit of the pool at 6:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuytbDbzIOk

des, you da BOMB! i am amazed that cindy did all the talking about george while he was standing right there! well, not amazed. just shows how controlling she is and how weak he is.

[Postergeist]

<snip>
I'm kind of wondering about the ankle bracelet story. The only thing I have that is slender are my ankles and wrists. I have to get small dial watches and take my watches down to the last, or next to the last notch on the bracelet yet I'm pretty sure I couldn't get a watch on my ankle. Could you guys?

Mornin' Lavinia- okay, I just tried it after reading your post- and yes I can. :laugh:

I too have what I think are small wrists, (5 3/4") that I've had to take watches to jewelers to remove links- but today I'm wearing a watch with an expandable band- so I took it off, and put it over my foot and yep- it fits around my ankle.

Not sure if I've ever seen a photo of Tracy- but a watch with straps could fit if her ankle is under 7 inches or if the band style was one for men, or sold in stores that sell + sizes.

thanks for the morning challenge!

[sydney]

Mornin' Lavinia- okay, I just tried it after reading your post- and yes I can. :laugh:

I too have what I think are small wrists, (5 3/4") that I've had to take watches to jewelers to remove links- but today I'm wearing a watch with an expandable band- so I took it off, and put it over my foot and yep- it fits around my ankle.

Not sure if I've ever seen a photo of Tracy- but a watch with straps could fit if her ankle is under 7 inches or if the band style was one for men, or sold in stores that sell + sizes.

thanks for the morning challenge!

mornin' postie! i 'spose we'll all now get interested in yoga because of this little 'speriment! :rolleyes:

[Lavinia]

Mornin' Lavinia- okay, I just tried it after reading your post- and yes I can. <STOLE A LAUGH>

I too have what I think are small wrists, (5 3/4") that I've had to take watches to jewelers to remove links- but today I'm wearing a watch with an expandable band- so I took it off, and put it over my foot and yep- it fits around my ankle.

Not sure if I've ever seen a photo of Tracy- but a watch with straps could fit if her ankle is under 7 inches or if the band style was one for men, or sold in stores that sell + sizes.

thanks for the morning challenge!


Good job Posty! :thumbsup: The watch I have now is the bracelet kind that I would have to pull on over my hoof and I KNOW *that* thang ain't going in no bitty bracelet! :scared: Okay, I'll believe Tracy now, even though she called us losers. Harumph!

Now, can you kiss your elbow? :sneaky:

[Postergeist]

mornin' postie! i 'spose we'll all now get interested in yoga because of this little 'speriment! :rolleyes:

LOL! what? I'm sitting in the chair, yes, with my legs crossed Indian style (or whatever the PC word for that is now), never thought of it as "yoga" tho- but hey- if it is, then I'll let my doc know that yes- I do exercise every day, I do yoga! :laugh:

do I get bonus points for being able to stand on one foot while putting a sock on the other?

wow- could that be called yoga too?!

[sydney]

LOL! what? I'm sitting in the chair, yes, with my legs crossed Indian style (or whatever the PC word for that is now), never thought of it as "yoga" tho- but hey- if it is, then I'll let my doc know that yes- I do exercise every day, I do yoga! :laugh:

do I get bonus points for being able to stand on one foot while putting a sock on the other?

wow- could that be called yoga too?!

that would be the lotus position in yoga. and yes, standing on one foot while putting a sock on the other would get you bonus points! (it wouldn't be a TUBE sock now, would it?):smile:

[Postergeist]

Good job Posty! :thumbsup: The watch I have now is the bracelet kind that I would have to pull on over my hoof and I KNOW *that* thang ain't going in no bitty bracelet! :scared: Okay, I'll believe Tracy now, even though she called us losers. Harumph!

Now, can you kiss your elbow? :sneaky:

y'all are cracking me up here! good thing too- it's raining here, and I hope it doesn't do that all day.

hey tho, I've caught up on all the posts- I didn't think Tracy mentioned our wonderful board here at IS at all- (it was the *other* board I thought she called losers)

and no, I can't kiss the back of my elbow, but you do know- that Elmo says to cough into your elbow!

[sammy62]

and how the heck do you use a shovel to get a ladder out of a pool?

Yesterday, Imperfect4 did a fantastic job transcribing that portion of Tracy's tape: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13438903&highlight=shovel#post13438903



Another question re the pool ladder, the A's made such a big deal telling LE about child proofing the house with cabinet locks and putting a padlock on the shed, etc. Why didn't they invest in a ladder guard or a child safety ladder?

I am not sold on Caylee drowned in the pool. IMO, natural instinct would have been to grab the phone and call 911. It would have been an automatic without even thinking. I think whatever happened to Caylee happened at the hand of her mother and did not involve the pool.

jmo

A shovel would be my last choice to get a ladder out of the pool. Especially if you had to borrow one from the neighbor. Grab a chair and crawl in...its florida in July, not Minnesota.

[Postergeist]

yes, it could! (it wouldn't be a TUBE sock now, would it?):smile:

oh now I'm stoked- I can brag on myself to the doctor, finally! <yay!>

(if ya want me too, I could try it with a TUBE sock- then I'd really be the fashionita around town)

I am sooo glad I did NOT listen to the Cindy tape- not after reading how she gave dozens of people all across the 'net a simultaneous headache.

[Deannalynn]

good morning everyone!

is their pool an above-ground? if so, how high is it? sorry - just working on first cuppa joe. looks like i'll need a LOT more to get thru everything that's been released.

Morning syd,
No, it was not above ground. IIRC, we have a video of Cindy in the pool with Caylee and they are inside a built in pool in the back yard.
In fact it was the first video I remember where someone in that house had physical contact with her on video.

[sydney]

Morning syd,
No, it was not above ground. IIRC, we have a video of Cindy in the pool with Caylee and they are inside a built in pool in the back yard.
In fact it was the first video I remember where someone in that house had physical contact with her on video.

hey, deanna! look up a few posts at what des posted. it's a video of the house and shows a small portion of the pool. it was above ground and pretty high, too. which makes kc's statement about using a shovel to get the ladder out of the pool all the more absurd.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone!

I'm gonna toss a theory out about the shovel/pool.

Maybe Casey is trying to give a reason for why the shovel was washed. I don't recall any damning evidence on the shovel.

Casey borrowed it and used it for something in regards to Caylee. IMO. Before returning it to the neighbor, she probably washed it.

[Postergeist]

A shovel would be my last choice to get a ladder out of the pool. Especially if you had to borrow one from the neighbor. Grab a chair and crawl in...its florida in July, not Minnesota.

:laugh:

(ah- but it was June, and Cindy said that Casey said it was too cold to swim one evening...)

I agree with ya, get a sturdy chair or a folding step ladder (if they had one) and get in. If she didn't want to get her face/hair wet, just use her foot. Or the pool skimmer to pull it up towards her.

However, none of this happened, imo.

[sydney]

oh now I'm stoked- I can brag on myself to the doctor, finally! <yay!>

(if ya want me too, I could try it with a TUBE sock- then I'd really be the fashionita around town)

I am sooo glad I did NOT listen to the Cindy tape- not after reading how she gave dozens of people all across the 'net a simultaneous headache.

i figure after i get my chores done around here, i'll have to listen to those audios - risk the headache and all - i guess i'm a glutton for punishment.

i watched a little of the video des posted upthread and commented on how cindy talked about what george did, with george standing right behind her!

if it was me, there is NO WAY i would invite the media to look around my house and show them where all the "hits" occurred. and i LOVED cindy's explanation about how george "sweat blood and tears" working in one area in the yard and trying to explain away the "hit" the dogs got.

un-friggin-believable.

[desmom]

des, you da BOMB! i am amazed that cindy did all the talking about george while he was standing right there! well, not amazed. just shows how controlling she is and how weak he is.

I found a better pic of the pool. http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/412.jpg

[Deannalynn]

oh now I'm stoked- I can brag on myself to the doctor, finally! <yay!>

(if ya want me too, I could try it with a TUBE sock- then I'd really be the fashionita around town)

I am sooo glad I did NOT listen to the Cindy tape- not after reading how she gave dozens of people all across the 'net a simultaneous headache.

I finally listened to Lenny early this morning and found my head cradled in my hands about to smack my head on the desk top. hammer
He sure did like to interrupt the interview with his dumb incoming calls about who was going to be on who's show.
Oh how important Lenny is. :sneaky:

[sydney]

G'morning, everyone!

I'm gonna toss a theory out about the shovel/pool.

Maybe Casey is trying to give a reason for why the shovel was washed. I don't recall any damning evidence on the shovel.

Casey borrowed it and used it for something in regards to Caylee. IMO. Before returning it to the neighbor, she probably washed it.

hey, ms! so, the shovel was washed, huh? do you 'spose she just hosed it down? if it was used in the murder of caylee, i would imagine some forensic evidence would have remained, even after it was washed.

in the words of some song whose name i don't remember: "how bizarre, how bizarre"

[sydney]

I found a better pic. http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/412.jpg

thank you thank you thank you. i spose kc could say she stood on that storage-looking-thingy to try and get the ladder out. still, her story makes not one lick of sense to me.

[sammy62]

G'morning, everyone!

I'm gonna toss a theory out about the shovel/pool.

Maybe Casey is trying to give a reason for why the shovel was washed. I don't recall any damning evidence on the shovel.

Casey borrowed it and used it for something in regards to Caylee. IMO. Before returning it to the neighbor, she probably washed it.

good theory :thumbup:

[Deannalynn]

hey, deanna! look up a few posts at what des posted. it's a video of the house and shows a small portion of the pool. it was above ground and pretty high, too. which makes kc's statement about using a shovel to get the ladder out of the pool all the more absurd.

Thanks syd. Will do but do you recall the video of Caylee in Cindy's arms in the pool. The water was about up to Cindy's chest area. It looked like an in ground to me but then again the person taking the video was standing above them.
Will go back and look.
Better have me another cup of coffee this morning.:biggrin:

[Postergeist]

G'morning, everyone!

I'm gonna toss a theory out about the shovel/pool.

Maybe Casey is trying to give a reason for why the shovel was washed. I don't recall any damning evidence on the shovel.

Casey borrowed it and used it for something in regards to Caylee. IMO. Before returning it to the neighbor, she probably washed it.

Mornin' msgator-

this is crazy- Casey washes garden tools in the pool to clean them?

Well, that would be interesting if the the shovel came back with traces of chlorine or Soft Swim/Baquacil on it.

shoot- what was in the report about the shovel anyway?

[msgatorslayer]

hey, ms! so, the shovel was washed, huh? do you 'spose she just hosed it down? if it was used in the murder of caylee, i would imagine some forensic evidence would have remained, even after it was washed.

in the words of some song whose name i don't remember: "how bizarre, how bizarre"

I don't know Syd. I'm just trying to make sense of this shovel/ladder/pool story. We know the Anthony's are lying, lol. But what are they trying to cover up by telling the lie?

[Deannalynn]

I found a better pic of the pool. http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/412.jpg

Wow, thanks des. That pic with Caylee and Cindy sure did have me fooled. The person taking the video of Cindy holding Caylee were standing on the ladder, then.

[sammy62]

I finally listened to Lenny early this morning and found my head cradled in my hands about to smack my head on the desk top. hammer
He sure did like to interrupt the interview with his dumb incoming calls about who was going to be on who's show.
Oh how important Lenny is. :sneaky:

Most of the people in this "movie" have HUGE ego's. From the main characters: the Anthonys, the lawyers, the PI's, the media. Probably the only one who doesn't is Krunk.

I kinda like Lenny though....

I didn't like Tracie...she and Lee could make a team. What a "happy" home they would have...giggle giggle, laugh, laugh.

[msgatorslayer]

Mornin' msgator-

this is crazy- Casey washes garden tools in the pool to clean them?

Well, that would be interesting if the the shovel came back with traces of chlorine or Soft Swim/Baquacil on it.

shoot- what was in the report about the shovel anyway?

LOL, not that she actually used the pool to clean them. I'm thinking the garden house. But in trying to recap things in her head, and make up stories along the way, she could have said she put the shovel in the pool to get the ladder out. Trying to cover her tracks. It would have sounded suspicious if she said she washed the shovel. Who washes shovels?

We need Des to get the shovel report for us. I don't remember anything about it so I don't think there was anything in it. But Des can tell us for sure.:biggrin:

[sydney]

I don't know Syd. I'm just trying to make sense of this shovel/ladder/pool story. We know the Anthony's are lying, lol. But what are they trying to cover up by telling the lie?

i think cindy was trying to put together an "accident" scenario to help take the focus off of kc. problem is, she really didn't have enough time to figure out all the angles before le became involved. that, coupled with the fact that she thinks everyone should believe that what comes out of the collective mouths of that family is absolute truth and that everyone else is stoopid, would make me believe she thought the story would be "bought" without question.

iirc, in one of cindy's statements to le, she said that kc would be the kind of person to call 911 EVEN IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT! that just blew me away. des - a little help here? i can't find the quote because when i was reading the statements, the "find" command didn't work.

wow - hope you can understand what i just wrote. gotta get more joe!

[Postergeist]

if it was me, there is NO WAY i would invite the media to look around my house and show them where all the "hits" occurred. and i LOVED cindy's explanation about how george "sweat blood and tears" working in one area in the yard and trying to explain away the "hit" the dogs got.

un-friggin-believable.

<snipped> oh yes, I recall that interview quite well from last year- don't forget, throw in George telling the FBI agent how "that little girl" stood "right over there by the pool and peed"...

odd that- because the FBI interview would've been a couple of months since Caylee was last at the home, but the George clarity is just astounding- clothing details from a month prior, and then that piece of info he just felt compelled to throw out there.

ugh

[Lavinia]

y'all are cracking me up here! good thing too- it's raining here, and I hope it doesn't do that all day.

hey tho, I've caught up on all the posts- I didn't think Tracy mentioned our wonderful board here at IS at all- (it was the *other* board I thought she called losers)

and no, I can't kiss the back of my elbow, but you do know- that Elmo says to cough into your elbow!

Yeah, I'm letting Tracy get by with that technicality. I wouldn't be happy if I was a WS'er, though, lol.

I think we're going to get rain this weekend, too. Elmo rocks!

[Deannalynn]

Good morning everyone! ooooo, Casey is going to be so mad that Tracy talked about things that Casey wanted to be kept "private" (just bewteen the two of them). Guess that Tracy probably won't be getting a Christmas card from you-know-who this year.

Oh heck. In that case I wish she would have really said something she wanted to keep really private.
Tracy said that Casey was like (my words) a chatty Cathy all the time she was with her. Wish she had really said something to Tracy we could sink our teeth into other then her comment "they have the time frame all wrong.":rolleyes:

[sydney]

<snipped> oh yes, I recall that interview quite well from last year- don't forget, throw in George telling the FBI agent how "that little girl" stood "right over there by the pool and peed"...

odd that- because the FBI interview would've been a couple of months since Caylee was last at the home, but the George clarity is just astounding- clothing details from a month prior, and then that piece of info he just felt compelled to throw out there.

ugh

that is the FIRST thing i would tell the FBI - my granddaughter had no diaper on (i'm guessing) and peed by the pool. real helpful and IMPORTANT information there.

i think george's excellent, although wavering memory (his recent testimony where he can't recall or doesn't remember) comes from his many years as a detective. learned a trick or two from the people he arrested and interrogated, i guess.

[bchand]

Good morning everyone! ooooo, Casey is going to be so mad that Tracy talked about things that Casey wanted to be kept "private" (just bewteen the two of them). Guess that Tracy probably won't be getting a Christmas card from you-know-who this year.



Morning Sun! Still hoping you're improving by the day.

Did you see the posts last night where Fox Orlando's Holly reported that Tracy's been sending mail to Casey as well as $$ for her commisary account?

[zinnia]

Is it just me or does that pool ladder look way too sturdy and heavy to 'fall in the pool'? You would have to lift it and shove it over the pool edge for it to be in the pool.
Any thoughts???

[Postergeist]

LOL, not that she actually used the pool to clean them. I'm thinking the garden house. But in trying to recap things in her head, and make up stories along the way, she could have said she put the shovel in the pool to get the ladder out. Trying to cover her tracks. It would have sounded suspicious if she said she washed the shovel. Who washes shovels?

We need Des to get the shovel report for us. I don't remember anything about it so I don't think there was anything in it. But Des can tell us for sure.:biggrin:

LOL, I actually do rinse off shovels after using them- because if I don't then the dirt dries like concrete, or if I'm scooping the doggie poo in the yard, don't want that stinking up the garage.

(*unlike the A's- who don't seem to mind stinking up their garage)

I would think it would be a polite thing to do, since she borrowed the shovel, to return it cleaned up, or at least not in worse condition than before it was loaned to her.

But I agree- this whole whackadoodle family just has to continue to keep making stories up and adding things, changing things-

my gosh it's Alternate Beginnings A,B,C, D with Alternate Endings W,X,Y,Z and extended bonus features and 4 different Director's cuts.

[sydney]

Is it just me or does that pool ladder look way too sturdy and heavy to 'fall in the pool'? You would have to lift it and shove it over the pool edge for it to be in the pool.
Any thoughts???

mornin' zinnia. we've been talking about that ladder quite a bit. kc's story about using a shovel to get it out of the pool makes no sense at all to ANY of us.

[Lavinia]

Good Morning!

:seeya: I can do that!! Just tried.

Question about the shovel here. Didn´t Cindy say that Casey used that shovel for the bamboo to make it saver for Caylee?
Caring for the safety of your child in the garden while this child has been kidnapped :shrug: ?
Instead of desperately searching for her? What´s wrong with that picture I wonder.... <STOLE YOUR SAD SMILIE>

LL

Good morning LL! :seeya: I hope you guys know I'm not paying any medical bills on this experiment. LOL.

There is no explaining the A's, IMO. I wouldn't even attempt it. Their synapses fire, and they talk and do, with no rhyme or reason except self-preservation, ego inflation and denial. (I guess I attempted to explain the A's, lol.)

[martha]

good morning everyone, I am way behind on this and the doc.you got yesterday so I have a day to catch up on everything. That is if I don;t have to work or have company today. I am hoping with every little bit of evid.that goes out comes closet to putting casey in prison where she belongs.jmho:wub:

[martha]

Is it just me or does that pool ladder look way too sturdy and heavy to 'fall in the pool'? You would have to lift it and shove it over the pool edge for it to be in the pool.
Any thoughts???You or so right. the ladder would not fall in the pool on it on. you would have to put it in there.no way did it fall in there.jmho

[sydney]

good morning everyone, I am way behind on this and the doc.you got yesterday so I have a day to catch up on everything. That is if I don;t have to work or have company today. I am hoping with every little bit of evid.that goes out comes closet to putting casey in prison where she belongs.jmho:wub:

mornin' martha! just put a sign up on your door that says "no company today", call in sick and don't answer your phone. you should do just fine!

[zinnia]

mornin' zinnia. we've been talking about that ladder quite a bit. kc's story about using a shovel to get it out of the pool makes no sense at all to ANY of us.

Gd AM to you also. I am not real familar with that type of pool but looking at the pic it just seems almost impossible for it to be totally in the pool without a bit of muscle. The feet on the outside are firmly planted with a wide base. You would have to lift it OVER the side for it to be in the pool. So it could not be an accident that the ladder was IN the pool. Didn't Cindy mention at one time that she and G found the ladder AFTER the 15th left up at the pool? She was pizzed because she said they always took it down to protect Caylee.
Can't figure out how it could be both in the pool and yet C found it left up to the pool.
OK, I know I'm trying to make sense of something that is only nonsense!

[Postergeist]

Yeah, I'm letting Tracy get by with that technicality. I wouldn't be happy if I was a WS'er, though, lol.

I think we're going to get rain this weekend, too. Elmo rocks!

I didn't listen to her tape yet- do you know in what context that was in?

Wondering if it was due to the postings that Cindy had printed out...IRRC, there was quite a few WS down there that either helped in the search or were at vigils, something- & I thought they were supporters of LP & team. (but I don't read over there regularly)



(rain is not good for me today tho, our plans today is to smoke 2 rack of ribs & take them over to watch the Crimson Tide football game on tv w/ my in-laws, the humidity will not be good for smoking)

[jammies]

Has anyone else noticed how Nancy Grace hasn't covered this case in a very long time? Even when there's noteworthy news (like today's doc dump), not a word about it on Nancy. I'm starting to wonder if there was a problem between Nancy and the Anthony's and she just refuses to give them anymore publicity?? Nancy isn't usually one to back away from conflict. I really miss her coverage of this case! :sad:

JMO



NG was on O'Reilly last night discussing this case. FYI

[Postergeist]

Good morning LL! :seeya: I hope you guys know I'm not paying any medical bills on this experiment. LOL.

There is no explaining the A's, IMO. I wouldn't even attempt it. Their synapses fire, and they talk and do, with no rhyme or reason except self-preservation, ego inflation and denial. (I guess I attempted to explain the A's, lol.)

Boy did you nail that!

Yes, mighty, mighty ego inflation - every last one of them!

self-preservation- natch

denial- quadruple natch

[msgatorslayer]

LOL, I actually do rinse off shovels after using them- because if I don't then the dirt dries like concrete, or if I'm scooping the doggie poo in the yard, don't want that stinking up the garage.

(*unlike the A's- who don't seem to mind stinking up their garage)

I would think it would be a polite thing to do, since she borrowed the shovel, to return it cleaned up, or at least not in worse condition than before it was loaned to her.

But I agree- this whole whackadoodle family just has to continue to keep making stories up and adding things, changing things-

my gosh it's Alternate Beginnings A,B,C, D with Alternate Endings W,X,Y,Z and extended bonus features and 4 different Director's cuts.

May I borrow your clean shovel?:tonguewag:

ITA it would be polite to wash it since she borrowed it. But she wasn't digging up bamboo. Anything she says comes from a 'guilty mind'. And I think she may be trying to explain away evidence, or a lack of.

[Scampi]

NG was on O'Reilly last night discussing this case. FYI

Why were'nt we informed of this ahead of time? :angry:

lol

Morning jammies and everyone!

[sydney]

Gd AM to you also. I am not real familar with that type of pool but looking at the pic it just seems almost impossible for it to be totally in the pool without a bit of muscle. The feet on the outside are firmly planted with a wide base. You would have to lift it OVER the side for it to be in the pool. So it could not be an accident that the ladder was IN the pool. Didn't Cindy mention at one time that she and G found the ladder AFTER the 15th left up at the pool? She was pizzed because she said they always took it down to protect Caylee.
Can't figure out how it could be both in the pool and yet C found it left up to the pool.
OK, I know I'm trying to make sense of something that is only nonsense!

i think that, in order to understand the a's and believe their stories, we would all have to have a partial lobotomy.

[sydney]

May I borrow your clean shovel?:tonguewag:

ITA it would be polite to wash it since she borrowed it. But she wasn't digging up bamboo. Anything she says comes from a 'guilty mind'. And I think she may be trying to explain away evidence, or a lack of.

never knew kc had an interest in gardening. somehow, i don't picture her as someone who would sweat and possibly ruin her nails working in the yard, do you?

[Postergeist]

NG was on O'Reilly last night discussing this case. FYI

I didn't watch him- but did she mention the latest doc dumps- because his site says

Friday, September 4:
• Start your Labor Day weekend early with a best of 'The O'Reilly Factor'!


http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/

so I'd think it was a rerun with it saying "best of".

[Scampi]

I found a better pic of the pool. http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/412.jpg

Interesting picture of the pool. Why be so careful removing the ladder, when that little storage box is kept so close to the pool. IMO, any toddler could climb up on that and then get into
the pool if they really wanted to.

Wasn't there some discussion of that little tan and green storage box somewhere along the way?

[Lavinia]

I didn't listen to her tape yet- do you know in what context that was in?

Wondering if it was due to the postings that Cindy had printed out...IRRC, there was quite a few WS down there that either helped in the search or were at vigils, something- & I thought they were supporters of LP & team. (but I don't read over there regularly)



(rain is not good for me today tho, our plans today is to smoke 2 rack of ribs & take them over to watch the Crimson Tide football game on tv w/ my in-laws, the humidity will not be good for smoking)


It was pretty directly from Tracy. Can't recall the exact comments,(I will look it up after my nap, lol) but she said *something* along the lines of "I don't know it was at WS or one of those places where I think the people are pretty much losers, but..." :ohmy:

(Vittles sound good. I hope they turn out well.)

[Scampi]

G'morning, everyone!

I'm gonna toss a theory out about the shovel/pool.

Maybe Casey is trying to give a reason for why the shovel was washed. I don't recall any damning evidence on the shovel.

Casey borrowed it and used it for something in regards to Caylee. IMO. Before returning it to the neighbor, she probably washed it.

Excellent point msgator. Perhaps to explain the possibility of "chloroform" being on that shovel some how.

[Postergeist]

May I borrow your clean shovel?:tonguewag:

ITA it would be polite to wash it since she borrowed it. But she wasn't digging up bamboo. Anything she says comes from a 'guilty mind'. And I think she may be trying to explain away evidence, or a lack of.

LOL, sure, just don't forget where you got it from.


Do you think she was trying to pry up the pavers- and that is why the A's lifted the pavers, because they could tell they'd been disturbed?

Actually, imo- the ground under pavers or that big plastic storage box would make for easier digging, should be nice and soft with no turf to dig thru (if that stuff had been sitting on top of the ground for any length.) But she still might've hit a good amount of roots that she just wasn't going to exert herself over.

(where I live, I hit lots of rocks)

[Deannalynn]

thank you thank you thank you. i spose kc could say she stood on that storage-looking-thingy to try and get the ladder out. still, her story makes not one lick of sense to me.

Casey must be thrilled with all the attention she is getting. She has everyone running in circles chasing their tail except for the state who is pretty confident they have this one in the bag.

I think Baez behavior in court is child like, too. Every time the State get up to address an issue he looks over towards their table and smirks.
Wait til trial. I will pay close attention to where that smirk is throughout the trial.:glare:

[Postergeist]

never knew kc had an interest in gardening. somehow, i don't picture her as someone who would sweat and possibly ruin her nails working in the yard, do you?

I wish one of her friends would've noticed Casey's hands during that week- because she better have stolen her a pair of gloves, or else she would've worked herself up some gnarly blisters on her hands if she spent any time using the shovel with some effort behind it.

And- ruin her nails- haven't you seen some of her pics? She appears to be a nail biter.

[Postergeist]

It was pretty directly from Tracy. Can't recall the exact comments,(I will look it up after my nap, lol) but she said *something* along the lines of "I don't know it was at WS or one of those places where I think the people are pretty much losers, but..." :ohmy:

(Vittles sound good. I hope they turn out well.)

well gosh- and some could say that about people that have numerous facebooks, my space, love connection pages like her charge did!



(thanks, that's why I won't have much time to be online today- I plan to make potato salad, deviled eggs & a choc. cake too, got all my shopping done last night. I hope the ribs turn out good, hubby will be smoking them for hours)

[bchand]

Hi Lavinia,

don´t worry! Here everybody has health insurances. It´s the law that you have to. Actually I wonder when this will also change here. Won´t take long I guess.

Can you explain to me please what "my bold" means? I´m getting crazy ´cause I tried to find out but was unsuccesful with that.

LL

I´m sorry for being that dumb but it seems it´s quite often used in your language.

My bold.

Aww don't feel bad LL, Lavinia talks funny.

(I used the bolded line as an example to show you. Out of your entire post - the BOLDED part is what I was addressing in this post.)

[Pruddennce]

I have seen the Anthonys' pool ladder. I can't think of any way that it could get "in the pool" where a shovel would be needed to retrieve it. Usually when the Anthonys say something that doesn't make sense, it means they are lying. :wink:

I agree. always a lie. doesnt make any sense. the entire thing would have to be lifted up and dumped in the pool. shovel, for WHAT?

http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/anthony-swimming-pool1.jpg

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[5swab5]

Good Morning Everyone,

Can someone remind me again, why Casey had to borrow a shovel. You mean to tell me, with all the junque :wink: the Anthony's had in that garage, they didn't have a shovel. I find that hard to believe. TIA

[Postergeist]

I watched a little bit of the MK sentence yesterday and after seeing the jury and how smart they were not to believe the whining of his family I think Casey is (speaking in your words now) toast. Whatever that means though.
It´s obvious that Ms Anthony is just dumb. LE ever made an IQ-test on her? And why we are at it...they should do that with the whole family.

That could be the only way out there.
I´m just saying...

LL

toast- means- worthless, useless, broke, not needed anymore


taken from slang site . com (won't put the link it, due to some language in it)

same as saying her goose is cooked, she's done

[Postergeist]

Good Morning Everyone,

Can someone remind me again, why Casey had to borrow a shovel. You mean to tell me, with all the junque :wink: the Anthony's had in that garage, they didn't have a shovel. I find that hard to believe. TIA

my dear swab- dontcha remember- they did have shovels, however, they had to be locked up in the shed- due to the gas can thief on the loose in the neighborhood, and they never bothered to give Casey a key.

They started locking things up (so they said) when Caylee was able to be more mobile and started getting into things, they didn't want her to get into any yard poisons and such.

Always the prudent thinking grandparents- trying to prevent accidents.

wow

[Bala]

Has anyone else noticed how Nancy Grace hasn't covered this case in a very long time? Even when there's noteworthy news (like today's doc dump), not a word about it on Nancy. I'm starting to wonder if there was a problem between Nancy and the Anthony's and she just refuses to give them anymore publicity?? Nancy isn't usually one to back away from conflict. I really miss her coverage of this case! :sad:

JMO
I noticed this as well. Considering she's the one that really put this case on the front burner for so long it really is strange.

[bchand]

I noticed this as well. Considering she's the one that really put this case on the front burner for so long it really is strange.

Typical of Nancy, she'll wait a few weeks and then say "Breaking News".

[Deannalynn]

Good Morning Everyone,

Can someone remind me again, why Casey had to borrow a shovel. You mean to tell me, with all the junque :wink: the Anthony's had in that garage, they didn't have a shovel. I find that hard to believe. TIA

Good morning 5swab5...
Their shovel was in the shed which was locked up.
I am still scratching my head at the thought Casey shows up and takes an interest in the bamboo to the point where she actually borrowed the shovel from the neighbors.
There has got to be something about that shovel/bamboo thing.

[Postergeist]

Thx Postergeist.

Actually I thought it had to do with "Little sparky" :blushing: !
Shame on me for those evil thoughts.

LL

LOL- well, that's not completely off base, folks have said before she needs to fry, which would be old sparky.

[Postergeist]

I noticed this as well. Considering she's the one that really put this case on the front burner for so long it really is strange.

You know who might get an answer on why NG has dropped this case-

Warhorse.

Maybe someone should PM her and ask her about emailing Nancy with that question. I know she does hear back from NG on other issues (she recently had one of our posters mentioned & an audio book sent to her, because WH passed on the info).

(however, the info may all have to stay in PMs and not mentioned on the board if a reason is given)

[zinnia]

Good morning 5swab5...
Their shovel was in the shed which was locked up.
I am still scratching my head at the thought Casey shows up and takes an interest in the bamboo to the point where she actually borrowed the shovel from the neighbors.
There has got to be something about that shovel/bamboo thing.

I KNOW!! Casey was going to put bamboo shoots in the Chili!!! For TonE!!!
Or she had a secret panda....
OK, I'll get off now; have the usual Ant headache from trying to figure out the unfigurable....sigh

[jaxback]

Good morning 5swab5...
Their shovel was in the shed which was locked up.
I am still scratching my head at the thought Casey shows up and takes an interest in the bamboo to the point where she actually borrowed the shovel from the neighbors.
There has got to be something about that shovel/bamboo thing.

Don't you know that when Casey wasn't hard at work as an event planner, she was moonlighting as a landscape architect?

[desmom]

LOL, not that she actually used the pool to clean them. I'm thinking the garden house. But in trying to recap things in her head, and make up stories along the way, she could have said she put the shovel in the pool to get the ladder out. Trying to cover her tracks. It would have sounded suspicious if she said she washed the shovel. Who washes shovels?

We need Des to get the shovel report for us. I don't remember anything about it so I don't think there was anything in it. But Des can tell us for sure.:biggrin:

Casey using the garden hose to clean the shovel: unwind the hose, turn on the spigot, squeeze trigger on hose nozzle, use fingers or tool to scrape off packed on soil, turn off the spigot, hose off legs from splashing water/dirt, turn off spigot, and rewind the hose.

Casey using the pool to clean the shovel:
walk to pool edge, dunk shovel several times up and down in pool, use fingers or tool to scrape off packed on soil, rinse hands off in pool, dry. shovel.

I vote she would use the pool.

Re the evidence on the shovel report begins on page 38 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740657/detail.html (I think :tonguewag: )

[Postergeist]

Good morning 5swab5...
Their shovel was in the shed which was locked up.
I am still scratching my head at the thought Casey shows up and takes an interest in the bamboo to the point where she actually borrowed the shovel from the neighbors.
There has got to be something about that shovel/bamboo thing.

well, other than her having a dead child on her hands and what to do with that- she may have needed the shovel to try to break into the shed to get to the gas cans, and that didn't work out so well for her- but she couldn't tell either truth to her neighbor could she...

hey, I need your shovel to bury a dead child

hey, I need your shovel to break a lock off the shed to get to my parents shovel and to steal some gas cans

The only one that bought and sold the bamboo story was Cindy, and she tried to sell that to every reporter and cop she could.

Recall, she had Casey in J'ville and Tampa with visits in between to do yard work.

What a busy gal!

[Postergeist]

I KNOW!! Casey was going to put bamboo shoots in the Chili!!! For TonE!!!
Or she had a secret panda....
OK, I'll get off now; have the usual Ant headache from trying to figure out the unfigurable....sigh

:lol:

secret panda! good one!

why not- that was probably just another additional work assignment her boss had her doing, spy on my kid, feed my panda things during that jam-packed filled month of hers.

[desmom]

Interesting picture of the pool. Why be so careful removing the ladder, when that little storage box is kept so close to the pool. IMO, any toddler could climb up on that and then get into
the pool if they really wanted to.

Wasn't there some discussion of that little tan and green storage box somewhere along the way?

Cindy explained all about the pool box and digging up the bush to Greta - 7:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuytbDbzIOk

:tonguewag:

[sydney]

I wish one of her friends would've noticed Casey's hands during that week- because she better have stolen her a pair of gloves, or else she would've worked herself up some gnarly blisters on her hands if she spent any time using the shovel with some effort behind it.

And- ruin her nails- haven't you seen some of her pics? She appears to be a nail biter.

then why do you think she had them done? could it be because she ruined them trying to dig something up?

i'm reminded of rhett butler in gone with the wind when scarlett when to visit him in jail - looking at scarlett's hands and saying "these aren't the hands of a LADY!"

anyone remember that?

[ish]

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/new-caylee-anthony-photos-rele.html (http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/new-caylee-anthony-photos-rele.html)

I am having serious trouble, with the swollen eyes of the more recent photos of Caylee. Looks like a complete shiner in one photo.

I've always felt that Casey had a lot to hide, abuse wise with Caylee. And that certain photos may show something. What is most disturbing of all, is that Caylee is looking at her killer in these photos, in hind site. In retrospect they are difficult to look at, because she looks disturbed, herself. And we all know why.

One photo of her very young, shows her huge eyes and I think that Casey had a problem with looking into her eyes. That is why she had those BUCKETS on her dresser of shades, always covering Caylee's eyes. It's just my personal assessment of their relationship but I've always felt she had the need to cover her face, and her eyes. Either with hats or shades, it was excessive.

In some photos we can see why. Look at the way, Caylee is looking at Casey. It's so upsetting.
:(

I thought this early on, but people from Florida and other sunny areas explained that sunglasses and hats are daily wear and a wide assortment of each is common. I still have a feeling that it was a manner of avoiding "seeing" Caylee.

[sydney]

I thought this early on, but people from Florida and other sunny areas explained that sunglasses and hats are daily wear and a wide assortment of each is common. I still have a feeling that it was a manner of avoiding "seeing" Caylee.

hey, ish! i saw those pics of caylee and they about broke my heart. her eyes look much older that her years - like they've seen a lifetime of hurt already. if she were older, i would say she looked "haunted".

that poor baby. Lord bless her and keep her and let Your face shine upon her.

[Pruddennce]

Cindy explained all about the pool box and digging up the bush to Greta - 7:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuytbDbzIOk

:tonguewag:

and again, desmom, DOESNT SHE GET IT??? Caylee was supposedly kidnapped on June 16th and Casey is back at the house, borrowing a shovel, in the middle of the afternoon to dig up bamboo on June 18th or 19th??????? (I hope BB has nailed down the exact day by now).

BB states, car backed into the garage, claims she needed it to DIG UP BAMBOO. that story came directly from Casey AND IT IS NONSENSICAL when coupled with the date she gave for 'the abduction'.

BB witnessed her several times backing into the garage. this is a problem for the defense, borrowing the shovel a couple of days later to do YARD WORK, after Caylee is supposedly being held captive somewhere.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[sydney]

and again, desmom, DOESNT SHE GET IT??? Caylee was supposedly kidnapped on June 16th and Casey is back at the house, borrowing a shovel, in the middle of the afternoon to dig up bamboo on June 18th or 19th??????? (I hope BB has nailed down the exact day by now).

BB states, car backed into the garage, claims she needed it to DIG UP BAMBOO. that story came directly from Casey AND IT IS NONSENSICAL when coupled with the date she gave for 'the abduction'.

BB witnessed her several times backing into the garage. this is a problem for the defense, borrowing the shovel a couple of days later to do YARD WORK, after Caylee is supposedly being held captive somewhere.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

awww, pru - it's in the "script" the invisi-nanny gave her, remember? btw, when i first heard the "script" reference, a little part of my pea-sized brain asked "script as in preSCRIPTion?"

[ish]

Rob's were interesting Deannalyn. He more or less just corroberated what Tracy said though.

It appears that Lenny got a lot of his tidbits that he shared on NG, from Tracy and Robert. Robert seems like a sensible, decent guy. He was concerned about Tracy being alone in the house with Lenny and Robert staying at a motel some distance away and suggested the RV. He also seemed to have a strong dislike for Casey and knew she was trying to work her wiles on him. One thing Tracy and Roberts interviews do though is confiirm a lot of what Lenny said. Lenny maybe a bit of a story teller but he didn't lie about what went on in the Anthony house. Robert also expressed what a lot of people were thinking back then, that Casey might kill herself.

[Postergeist]

then why do you think she had them done? could it be because she ruined them trying to dig something up?

i'm reminded of rhett butler in gone with the wind when scarlett when to visit him in jail - looking at scarlett's hands and saying "these aren't the hands of a LADY!"

anyone remember that?

ackk! Good memory syd, I'd forgotten all about her beauty day at Penney's right- that's where she got her mani at?

In the photos from last yr, all the ones she had of close ups of her face and her eating, her nails appearing to have no whites to them, no edges, just chewed down to the quick.

Apparently she did not get artificial nails put on-

here's her in court

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bkp2XT0pNcbm/340x.jpg

here's her at Fusians/Fusions

http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/caseyanthony.jpg

a party pic again with very short nails or bitten nails

http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/casey-card.jpg

[ttcRider]

I will see your additions and raise you a kidney stone and a spinal tap (although you almost got me with Dennis Milstead and dinner. :eek:).

I'm kind of wondering about the ankle bracelet story. The only thing I have that is slender are my ankles and wrists. I have to get small dial watches and take my watches down to the last, or next to the last notch on the bracelet yet I'm pretty sure I couldn't get a watch on my ankle. Could you guys?

...maybe before I started following this case! :laugh:

[ish]

Per Tracy, she pulled out every item of clothing she owned, piece by piece, and described why she bought each one.

I'd prefer a simultaneous root canal and pap/pelvic exam to sitting through that.

Boughtwith stolen money!!

[sydney]

ackk! Good memory syd, I'd forgotten all about her beauty day at Penney's right- that's where she got her mani at?

In the photos from last yr, all the ones she had of close ups of her face and her eating, her nails appearing to have no whites to them, no edges, just chewed down to the quick.

Apparently she did not get artificial nails put on-

here's her in court

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bkp2XT0pNcbm/340x.jpg

here's her at Fusians/Fusions

http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/caseyanthony.jpg

a party pic again with very short nails or bitten nails

http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/casey-card.jpg

thanks for the pix. not sure where she had her "beauty day" but it (her beauty) sure didn't last long, did it?

my one vanity (okay ONE of my vanities) is gel nails. they wear like IRON. obviously, she didn't have those done. and she really doesn't look like a nail-biter to me. it does look to me like she uses her hands a LOT. what she uses them for - i don't wanna go there! could it be (and this IS a stretch) that she had them done to remove any possible evidence?

(i tell you - that last picture looks like one that she wanted put in playboy)

[really3997]

Ok I need help. I cannot find Cindy's lunch date that loads up. Channel 13 freezes my puter up...I cannot find it on the local channels.. Help

[ish]

in her warped little mind, she's sure that her loved ones wanted her to be happy so badly, they didn't mind a little fraud and theft.

i also want to note from tracy's audio how much the jail staff loved casey....boy that sure conflicts with jose's notion that they were all plotting against her to get that jailhouse video of her finding out about remains in the empty lot.

jmo

Yes, Caseys remarks about them bringing her special food were interesting, I think jail officials might dispute that. More likely she was talking about the crap she bought from the commissary.

[martha]

mornin' martha! just put a sign up on your door that says "no company today", call in sick and don't answer your phone. you should do just fine!thank you honey that is a good idea think I will try it all ha, good to see you here today.love ya:wub:

[*Serenity*]

Anyone happen to know if the 1,000 + pages were released yesterday?

The tapes were enough to feed the doc-dump-- munchies, but I would like to finish the meal. LOL

[Dells]

Some are haunting.

She is walking with a purpose, and Caylee is just being led.

This one gets me. #13

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-caylee-anthony-pictures-090409,0,5827777.photogallery

Oh wow!:scared: To me it seems that you can clearly see she has a black eye in that picture. That's just frightening. Poor Caylee.:crying:

[Scampi]

Typical of Nancy, she'll wait a few weeks and then say "Breaking News".

.........of stuff we've known for weeks!! :laugh:

Morning Bee!!!

[ish]

Ok I need help. I cannot find Cindy's lunch date that loads up. Channel 13 freezes my puter up...I cannot find it on the local channels.. Help

Consider yourself lucky!!! Over an hour of Cindy, whining, complaining, critcizing, storytelling, lying outright, cajooling, flirting and threatening.
Oh and obsessing about a frigging lanyard and a zip drive, never mentioning Caylee (literally) til Matt Irwin brings her into the conversation. It took me two attempts to get thru the whole thing and a pack of wine coolers.

[martha]

and again, desmom, DOESNT SHE GET IT??? Caylee was supposedly kidnapped on June 16th and Casey is back at the house, borrowing a shovel, in the middle of the afternoon to dig up bamboo on June 18th or 19th??????? (I hope BB has nailed down the exact day by now).

BB states, car backed into the garage, claims she needed it to DIG UP BAMBOO. that story came directly from Casey AND IT IS NONSENSICAL when coupled with the date she gave for 'the abduction'.

BB witnessed her several times backing into the garage. this is a problem for the defense, borrowing the shovel a couple of days later to do YARD WORK, after Caylee is supposedly being held captive somewhere.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*You or so right that does not fly does it? I think if the proc.gets all this down and brings it to trial there will be no way casey can get out of this.I sure hope she can;t.jmho.JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE:wub:

[sydney]

.........of stuff we've known for weeks!! :laugh:

Morning Bee!!!

ok. purely o/t (can i do that on a holiday board?)

everything i've seen on jvm and ng about this case is old news. stuff us flb's already know.

WE should be hosting those shows. and, quite frankly, i am more turned off than ever to ng after seeing her plug her book with jvm. all that "i almost died" during childbirth and how she will always love her fiance - gak! don't mean to offend you nancy fans - really, i don't.

[Dells]

There is no telling what is in the mind of 'that girl'. She is one messed up chick. She messed with everyone's head she came in contact with and that is the reason she had no long term friendships!! She had to keep getting new friends because everyone caught on to her whacky ways!

Oh the nerve of 'that girl' claiming everyone was lying from the discovery. AND then the comment to Tracy about they don't even have the timeline right. OMG..... and Rob was deeply disturbed about her comment : they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing!!

Oh how did someone not throttle 'that girl'....?? I would be in some deep doo if I would have ever had contact with her. OH YEA.... deep
deep doo.... I couldn't held back. AND how in the world did LE not want to reach across the table and whack her up side the head? Man--she put everyone through some severe temptation!!

I so agree w/you! Casey has the nerve to complain that everyone else is lying? WHAT?!?! She is like the queen of all the lying. Seriously, does she even have a clue? And then to claim that LE doesn't even have the time line right?! Well, if your child is missing and you claim that you are so innocent, then why don't you help LE set the record straight?:sneaky:

[really3997]

Consider yourself lucky!!! Over an hour of Cindy, whining, complaining, critcizing, storytelling, lying outright, cajooling, flirting and threatening.
Oh and obsessing about a frigging lanyard and a zip drive, never mentioning Caylee (literally) til Matt Irwin brings her into the conversation. It took me two attempts to get thru the whole thing and a pack of wine coolers.

But but I am in the mood to listen to some fiction. It just seems that no one has her on their website. I do wonder if this is on purpose

[Ladyhawk]

Good Morning everyone...happy holiday weekend.

I have thought for some time now that the neighbor's shovel and the borrowing of same is a red herring. I don't believe she used that shovel for anything other than a diversion for LE....I believe she tried to dig in her own backyard with an Anthony shovel from the 'locked' shed(s). There's no way she didn't know where the keys were. She had ToneE break in for the gas cans so her parents wouldn't immediately suspect her. LE tested the wrong shovel(s)...they should have checked every shovel in the shed(s). She intended for the neighbor to report the shovel borrowing and she knew there would be nothing on it.

[WillowInFlight]

Oh wow!:scared: To me it seems that you can clearly see she has a black eye in that picture. That's just frightening. Poor Caylee.:crying:

I can't really tell if she has a black eye or not, the picture is pretty grainy, I do see in a lot of those pictures dark circles under her eyes.

[farrahrani]

I thought this early on, but people from Florida and other sunny areas explained that sunglasses and hats are daily wear and a wide assortment of each is common. I still have a feeling that it was a manner of avoiding "seeing" Caylee.


I think it was a play thing. Every summer I get my kids cute sunglasses, Spiderman and Dora, and they looove them. They play with them, wear them in the house when they are pretending, etc. They play with my prescription glasses if they get up before me, and they can't find their cute shades. I don't think it's that unusual for Caylee to enjoy playing with her sunglasses. The grownups might have just thought she looked cute playing with the big people glasses and play glasses and took her pic. I don't think every single thing in this case is necessarily a coverup, though its usually the first thought when dealing with these people. :rolleyes:

Sometimes things really are just what they appear to be on the surface (watch some 'breaking news' come out in a week or two and I have to eat my words! :wink: )

[Scampi]

and again, desmom, DOESNT SHE GET IT??? Caylee was supposedly kidnapped on June 16th and Casey is back at the house, borrowing a shovel, in the middle of the afternoon to dig up bamboo on June 18th or 19th??????? (I hope BB has nailed down the exact day by now).

BB states, car backed into the garage, claims she needed it to DIG UP BAMBOO. that story came directly from Casey AND IT IS NONSENSICAL when coupled with the date she gave for 'the abduction'.

BB witnessed her several times backing into the garage. this is a problem for the defense, borrowing the shovel a couple of days later to do YARD WORK, after Caylee is supposedly being held captive somewhere.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

How many times have we seen this exact same set of facts? But you have really put them together for me Pru and I agree with you, the time sequence for borrowing this shovel is very incriminating, considering what casey anthony said was ongoing at the time.

There is only one reasonable explanation for why she was back at that house, borrowing a neighbor's shovel, something to do with the body.

[Postergeist]

hey, ish! i saw those pics of caylee and they about broke my heart. her eyes look much older that her years - like they've seen a lifetime of hurt already. if she were older, i would say she looked "haunted".

that poor baby. Lord bless her and keep her and let Your face shine upon her.

here's some happy photos of Caylee tho-

little princess

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j-DUX_c9sAg/SfGwrRahugI/AAAAAAAADWA/ZUrWGuSM4jQ/s400/Anthony+Caylee+11.jpg

ice cream treat

http://www.cayleedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/12347771.jpg

after bath time

http://flagranny2.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/4_64_120108_caylee7.jpg

happy Easter

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/9/f/f/0/fe.jpg

http://www.cayleedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/caylee12.jpg

in the playhouse

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/10/16-22/Caylee.jpg

sweetness in blue

http://glosslip.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/caylee.jpg

hey boys and girls- it's Minnie Mouse

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID12837/slideshows/caylee9.jpg

[Scampi]

ok. purely o/t (can i do that on a holiday board?)

everything i've seen on jvm and ng about this case is old news. stuff us flb's already know.

WE should be hosting those shows. and, quite frankly, i am more turned off than ever to ng after seeing her plug her book with jvm. all that "i almost died" during childbirth and how she will always love her fiance - gak! don't mean to offend you nancy fans - really, i don't.

To be fair to Nancy Grace, the Michael Jackson death really swept all the news off the airways for a bit, then we had more
kids disappearing and murdered and she covered those tragic cases.

Lately, I am concerned about NG talking about her twins and showing pictures of them, especially after having families on who have lost or missing children. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me.

[Postergeist]

Ok I need help. I cannot find Cindy's lunch date that loads up. Channel 13 freezes my puter up...I cannot find it on the local channels.. Help

really- these are the links des posted yesterday- will one of them work for you?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...tt%20Cindy.WMA

http://www.wftv.com/video/20724903/index.html

[ish]

The ankle bracelet story Tracy told made me laugh. For those that have not listened to Tracy's interview...

Casey made Tracy put a wristwatch on her ankle. Casey said they could paint it blue so they would have matching ankle bracelets. Tracy's was a wristwatch and Casey's was the court monitoring ankle bracelet.

I am still shaking my head over that one. :lol:

jmo

I guess Jose told her Tracy was there for her entertainment. Jose has her number though about her talking, he was in a panic that she might blab all to Tracy. He just hasn't figured out that she's played him all along. Just like a fiddle.

[Postergeist]

Good Morning everyone...happy holiday weekend.

I have thought for some time now that the neighbor's shovel and the borrowing of same is a red herring. I don't believe she used that shovel for anything other than a diversion for LE....I believe she tried to dig in her own backyard with an Anthony shovel from the 'locked' shed(s). There's no way she didn't know where the keys were. She had ToneE break in for the gas cans so her parents wouldn't immediately suspect her. LE tested the wrong shovel(s)...they should have checked every shovel in the shed(s). She intended for the neighbor to report the shovel borrowing and she knew there would be nothing on it.

WOW! bbm-

omg Ladyhawk- excellent theory here- a diversion with the shovels.

just one big shell game with her, and her family.

(I don't recall them testing the family's shovel/s tho) :sad:

[sammy62]

here's the link I used. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Meeting%20Matt%20Cindy.WMA

Its hard to hear....but interesting.

[sydney]

To be fair to Nancy Grace, the Michael Jackson death really swept all the news off the airways for a bit, then we had more
kids disappearing and murdered and she covered those tragic cases.

Lately, I am concerned about NG talking about her twins and showing pictures of them, especially after having families on who have lost or missing children. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me.



scamp, i commented on that quite a while ago. she was a prosecutor and put some really bad folks away who may get out after a while. i would be TERRIFIED to show pics of my kids on the television. there is NO WAY i would risk putting their photo out there.

i know a guy who used to be a criminal defense attorney. sometimes he lost. he said that he always got notification of a former client's release so he could take proper precautions in case they came after him for losing their case.

call me paranoid, but i don't believe you can do too much to protect your family, kwim?

[really3997]

really- these are the links des posted yesterday- will one of them work for you?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...tt%20Cindy.WMA

http://www.wftv.com/video/20724903/index.html

The Cindy one doesnt work and her lunch date is not on wftv. But thanks

[ish]

my dear swab- dontcha remember- they did have shovels, however, they had to be locked up in the shed- due to the gas can thief on the loose in the neighborhood, and they never bothered to give Casey a key.

They started locking things up (so they said) when Caylee was able to be more mobile and started getting into things, they didn't want her to get into any yard poisons and such.

Always the prudent thinking grandparents- trying to prevent accidents.

wow

They lock the shed to prevent gas can theft, but take no steps to prevent a thief from using their credit cards and racking up thousands in debt. Weird.:huh:

[sydney]

They lock the shed to prevent gas can theft, but take no steps to prevent a thief from using their credit cards and racking up thousands in debt. Weird.:huh:

not only that, they don't take steps to see where their precious grandchild is after being missing for 31 days - only take the thief's word for it that she is ok and with the invisi-nanny.

[WillowInFlight]

They lock the shed to prevent gas can theft, but take no steps to prevent a thief from using their credit cards and racking up thousands in debt. Weird.:huh:

Strange isn't it?? Specially since they knew she was using the CC and also stealing from Caylee's piggy bank. Though didn't Cindy tell Greta that they kept the sheds locked for Caylee's saftey?

[Postergeist]

The Cindy one doesnt work and her lunch date is not on wftv. But thanks

oops, sorry, I haven't listened to anything Cindy, but I had made a note of what des had posted-

hopefully someone can hook you up to one that is working, as several did post that they listened to her interview yesterday.


ETA- after you downloaded it into your temp folder it just won't play? (the ch.13 link)

or it won't download at all?

[sydney]

Strange isn't it?? Specially since they knew she was using the CC and also stealing from Caylee's piggy bank. Though didn't Cindy tell Greta that they kept the sheds locked for Caylee's saftey?

AND that kc is the one who bought all those child-proof thingys you put in the doorknobs that you have to push in in order to open the doors.

[bchand]

The Cindy one doesnt work and her lunch date is not on wftv. But thanks

Hi really. Hope you have a nice holiday weekend.

Go to this link - http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/4/new_casey_anthony_evidence.html

"right click" on Cindy speaks with Cmdr Matt Irwin.

Choose - save target as

It will download the interview to your computer and then you can listen to it.

It's very hard to hear alot of the conversation once they get into the restaurant. The rest is "same ole same ole Cindy."

[martha]

It sure looks like casey likes girls as much as she liked boys. george said casey did not drink he need to look at her pictures and see if he thinks she drinks or not.ha, casey had CAYLEE around cig.smoke all the time and I am sure when she got back to cindy;s house that they could smell the cig.smoke. They need to shut up about the cig smoke. george thru the toys aways because they smelled like cig smoke that was not the reason he threw them away he knew CAYLEE was never coming home.I will never forget him doing that it was awful. I would have keep anything anyone had sent to my gc. I guess they or such big shots now with all the money they or making of of CAYLEE they don;t need help from anyone. oh yes they do need the money just not toys or stuff like that. I would bet they both smoked at one time because of all the gum chewing. Just can;t wait until the trial starts and c and g or put on the stand and lee too. I hope they all get took down so bad. jmho

[really3997]

oops, sorry, I haven't listened to anything Cindy, but I had made a note of what des had posted-

hopefully someone can hook you up to one that is working, as several did post that they listened to her interview yesterday.


ETA- after you downloaded it into your temp folder it just won't play? (the ch.13 link)

or it won't download at all?

I clink the link my screen goes white and freezes...

[panokatana]

I haven't had time to listen to all the recordings yet (only Tracy's), but if someone could give me a brief synopsis on Rob and Tracey and the "iggy" feature, I would be ever so grateful. Sounds fun!

[Postergeist]

I clink the link my screen goes white and freezes...

well darn- I think maybe if you log off, clear your temp. cookies and then try again at that site? not sure why you're having that problem- as I just clicked on that link a few minutes ago- (it was slow to transfer the data), but now I've got the crazy woman on my temp folder now & it was starting to play.

(But I don't have time to listen to her, got grub I need to start preparing for our family get together later on.)

[sydney]

It sure looks like casey likes girls as much as she liked boys. george said casey did not drink he need to look at her pictures and see if he thinks she drinks or not.ha, casey had CAYLEE around cig.smoke all the time and I am sure when she got back to cindy;s house that they could smell the cig.smoke. They need to shut up about the cig smoke. george thru the toys aways because they smelled like cig smoke that was not the reason he threw them away he knew CAYLEE was never coming home.I will never forget him doing that it was awful. I would have keep anything anyone had sent to my gc. I guess they or such big shots now with all the money they or making of of CAYLEE they don;t need help from anyone. oh yes they do need the money just not toys or stuff like that. I would bet they both smoked at one time because of all the gum chewing. Just can;t wait until the trial starts and c and g or put on the stand and lee too. I hope they all get took down so bad. jmho

(bold is mine)

hey, martha. ITA with you about former cigarette smokers (wish i could say i was one of them)

the other thing about the constant gum-chewing that strikes me is, from what i've read, people get dry-mouth when lying. perhaps that is why there is always "cud" in their mouths - to keep their tongue from drying out.

[Deannalynn]

I haven't had time to listen to all the recordings yet (only Tracy's), but if someone could give me a brief synopsis on Rob and Tracey and the "iggy" feature, I would be ever so grateful. Sounds fun!

The only tapes I could listen to was LP and Tracy.
I just can't get into Cindy or Robs no matter what directions I follow. That stinks but I'm sure someone will come along and share a little.:biggrin:

[Deannalynn]

(bold is mine)

hey, martha. ITA with you about former cigarette smokers (wish i could say i was one of them)

the other thing about the constant gum-chewing that strikes me is, from what i've read, people get dry-mouth when lying. perhaps that is why there is always "cud" in their mouths - to keep their tongue from drying out.

How tacky they both are by chewing gum on national television, in front of the media and George up on the witness stand. Geesh. If I was the judge I would request that he loose the gum, (Both of them) in his courtroom. It drives me up a wall.

Both of the Anthony's are low class and they don't have a clue how to behave based on where they are.

By the way, does the Anthony's still have that car Casey was driving around or does LE have it in evidence. I hope they bagged it and tagged it so they can have the jury look at it and smell the decomp. That never goes away if you leave it alone.

[Dunlurken]

To be fair to Nancy Grace, the Michael Jackson death really swept all the news off the airways for a bit, then we had more
kids disappearing and murdered and she covered those tragic cases.

Lately, I am concerned about NG talking about her twins and showing pictures of them, especially after having families on who have lost or missing children. Something about that just doesn't sit well with me.

I had this same concern myself. They can be kidnapped very quickly.

Sorry for the O/T.

[sydney]

How tacky they both are by chewing gum on national television, in front of the media and George up on the witness stand. Geesh. If I was the judge I would request that he loose the gum, (Both of them) in his courtroom. It drives me up a wall.

Both of the Anthony's are low class and they don't have a clue how to behave based on where they are.

By the way, does the Anthony's still have that car Casey was driving around or does LE have it in evidence. I hope they bagged it and tagged it so they can have the jury look at it and smell the decomp. That never goes away if you leave it alone.

i'm almost positive it was taken into evidence.

as for the gum-chewing in court, i think (i don't REMEMBER this, though) that someone posted a "courtroom ethics" guide before.

i really really REALLy think that the gumchewing is to try to hide the fact that EVERYTHING that comes out of their mouths is a LIE.

i would like to have a statement taken from them ONE TIME without the gumchewing and water-drinking, so we can hear how their tongues stick to the roofs of their mouths. WHERE IS THAT VOICE STRESS ANALYZER?

[imc_e]

The idea of using a shovel in a pool is ridiculous because it would tear the lining in the pool.

NOONE would use a shovel in a pool.

She used the shovel to try to bury Caylee.

MO

[Barbara fl.]

How tacky they both are by chewing gum on national television, in front of the media and George up on the witness stand. Geesh. If I was the judge I would request that he loose the gum, (Both of them) in his courtroom. It drives me up a wall.

Both of the Anthony's are low class and they don't have a clue how to behave based on where they are.

By the way, does the Anthony's still have that car Casey was driving around or does LE have it in evidence. I hope they bagged it and tagged it so they can have the jury look at it and smell the decomp. That never goes away if you leave it alone.

The car will remain in evidence until after the trial...But I wouldn't put it past the Anthony's to want it back....they would probably auction it off to the highest bidder....

[really3997]

The idea of using a shovel in a pool is ridiculous because it would tear the lining in the pool.

NOONE would use a shovel in a pool.

She used the shovel to try to bury Caylee.

MO

I think the only purpose the shovel served was to change this from a missing child to a murdered child. I think bb's testimony of backing into the driveway is more important. JMO