All Things Michael Jackson 2

[Buzzzzzz]

I hope i did this right.

[retiredcop]

This was posted as a statement of fact and I am requesting a link.


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Yes, the noble cause. By the way.. the reason the family was late was due to Michaels Mother, Katherine incappacitated with grief and sadness. Enjoy your night.
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Free of all the evil that surrounded you in life.
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[Unperson1984]

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I know its their right to do what they want. But why couldnt they use their personal cars and donate the rental money to charity instead. imo


I think using those cars was symbolic, I believe it was MJ's favorite car. When my mom died we all wore pink to the funeral, it was her favorite color.

[Firehead11]

Why are people worried about the cost of things since the estate is paying the tab on the entire funeral?

20% of the interest of the Michael Jackson Family Trust Fund is going to charity. Nothing is ever good enough for some people and I have to ask why?

I was glad to see that Dame Elizabeth Taylor attended the services and she waited even though she was in a wheelchair. Now beofre the bashing starts for THAT, she apparently thought enough of Michael to sit there for his service.

It is disheartening to see that even the funeral has to be bashed. He was laid to rest as his family saw fit.

Rest In Peace Michael.

[retiredcop]

I can't speak for the poster but I did hear one commentator last night say that. I was watching the TMZ live feed, CNN and TVGN however I don't remember which one I heard it on.

I watched all three too and saw or heard nothing like that. I would think it would be something reported on by more than one reporter if true. Maybe today there will be something in the news. At this point I don't believe it's true.

I still believe a poster should either supply a link or say it is her opinion like the rest of us have to do.

in my opinion

[Cindylee]

I missed the whole thing, but this is a pretty good article from the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson4-2009sep04,0,4969211.story

[Firehead11]

I may be old cop but my hearing is still very good. I know what I heard and you can choose to believe me or call me a liar. Why should a poster supply a link to something he/she heard on the TV or live feed? Maybe you can find the link you need on YouTube. Beyond that I can't help you. It is of no consequence to me.

ETA: Is it out of the realm of possibility that you just might have missed it yourself?


There have been many times that I have requested a link and have been told to look for it myself. I wouldn't worry about it.

[daniel green]

I can't speak for the poster but I did hear one commentator last night say that. I was watching the TMZ live feed, CNN and TVGN however I don't remember which one I heard it on.

It was a guess on the part of that commentator. Not a fact. Mrs Jackson was quite composed at the funeral.

Just want to state, for anyone who missed it, that over half the cars were empty--with just the drivers. Perhaps to take guests to the restaurant after the event.

[Firehead11]

I missed the whole thing, but this is a pretty good article from the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson4-2009sep04,0,4969211.story


MSNBC, has a few videos taken prior to the service starting. I can't remember where I saw Katherine's picture but boy does she looked sorrowful. So did Dame Elizabeth Taylor. I also read the invitation to the services, what a wonderful program that it had.

[GentleBreeze]

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so much for a private ceremony.....eh? imo

I don't recall seeing any part of the ceremony. At the very beginning his children laid the crown upon his casket there was no more viewing of the ceremony.

The most private ceremony would be when he was taken into the Mausoleum and when the guests filed inside.

Katherine was said to be so distraught that at first she turned back and couldn't go inside. I think it really has taken its toll on her now and she knew she would never get to see her son here on earth again. Jim Morey said that in the Katherine's religious beliefs MJ is at sleep now.

My heart is with his children and the rest of his family.

I am sure they will visit him often and draw comfort he sleeps in peace now.

imo

[Firehead11]

It was a guess on the part of that commentator. Not a fact. Mrs Jackson was quite composed at the funeral.

Just want to state, for anyone who missed it, that over half the cars were empty--with just the drivers. Perhaps to take guests to the restaurant after the event.


I have no idea why you stated that she was quite composed.

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=429737&GT1=28102

GLENDALE, Calif. (AP) -- Paris Jackson wept as she stepped into the mausoleum where her father, Michael, was to be entombed. Katherine Jackson, overcome by sorrow, turned back when she was faced with her son's final resting place.


As it ended, Katherine Jackson appeared extremely weary and had to be helped to her car, according to the guest. Earlier, she had a difficult time going into the mausoleum; she was overcome, turned back, and it wasn't clear if she went in at all, the guest said.

[GentleBreeze]

MSNBC, has a few videos taken prior to the service starting. I can't remember where I saw Katherine's picture but boy does she looked sorrowful. So did Dame Elizabeth Taylor. I also read the invitation to the services, what a wonderful program that it had.

Yes, I read a CNN article this morning where it said many tears were shed during the service.

imo

[daniel green]

I think using those cars was symbolic, I believe it was MJ's favorite car. When my mom died we all wore pink to the funeral, it was her favorite color.

And there were only like 5 of the limos and the Jacksons are a large family.

I do not think that 200 attendees--particularly when half of them were family members--is very large.

What I do think is that it was neither intimate nor private, as it was advertised. And that it was filmed as part of a reality series, as on a reality show set, complete with lighting, makeup, sound, etc.

What always strikes me is the tone deafness of this family. Back in the early 90's, when MJ had his last record, people were very much into BIG and GLITZ. Over the top.

These are different times, with different sensibilities. I believe that the Jacksons would have garnered much sympathy and respect had they buried their son/brother in privacy and donated the million dollars in his name and in his honor to, say, a school with great needs.

I just came back from a high risk school here where I spent the morning. The teachers were asking me if I knew someone who would donate some of those marble notebooks because the students cannot afford them. They are less than a dollar a piece, aren't they?

Just imagine not only the sympathy and respect that the Jacksons could have garnered with such a move, but what it would actually mean to the recipients.

[GentleBreeze]

I have no idea why you stated that she was quite composed.

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=429737&GT1=28102

GLENDALE, Calif. (AP) -- Paris Jackson wept as she stepped into the mausoleum where her father, Michael, was to be entombed. Katherine Jackson, overcome by sorrow, turned back when she was faced with her son's final resting place.


As it ended, Katherine Jackson appeared extremely weary and had to be helped to her car, according to the guest. Earlier, she had a difficult time going into the mausoleum; she was overcome, turned back, and it wasn't clear if she went in at all, the guest said.

So heartbreaking.:rose:

[daniel green]

I have no idea why you stated that she was quite composed.

snipped.

Because we all saw it with our own eyes last night, the close ups of her sitting there, with the children. Getting out of the car, etc.

[daniel green]

Interesting site about the company who supplied the Rolls Royce Phantoms used yesterday for the funeral. Check out the rates.

http://www.urclimo.com/fleet.html

Cheap, they are not.

However, several reporters said last night that the Jacksons were frequent customers and received a discount.

[Hanalei]

I watched both CNN and TV guide feed and there was no reason given on why the family was late. The were even late for his memorial! It's just not fair the guests waiting for them I wouldn't do that to my guests. The only thing that has been reported about Katherine is that she was upset when they were carrying MJ in the Great Mausoleum and Katherine Jackson broke down and couldn't go in.


I may be old cop but my hearing is still very good. I know what I heard and you can choose to believe me or call me a liar. Why should a poster supply a link to something he/she heard on the TV or live feed? Maybe you can find the link you need on YouTube. Beyond that I can't help you. It is of no consequence to me.

ETA: Is it out of the realm of possibility that you just might have missed it yourself?

[Firehead11]

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I have a different opinion of LizTaylor.......... she looked overcome with the HEAT. IMO


HOLY COW !!

I didn't know that the heat makes your eyes red ! Thanks for the info.

[Firehead11]

Well enjoy the bash fest!

[BOZGAL2]

Why are people worried about the cost of things since the estate is paying the tab on the entire funeral?

20% of the interest of the Michael Jackson Family Trust Fund is going to charity. Nothing is ever good enough for some people and I have to ask why?

I was glad to see that Dame Elizabeth Taylor attended the services and she waited even though she was in a wheelchair. Now beofre the bashing starts for THAT, she apparently thought enough of Michael to sit there for his service.

It is disheartening to see that even the funeral has to be bashed. He was laid to rest as his family saw fit.

Rest In Peace Michael.

:thumbsup:
Well said Fire.

And I might add with the estimated worth of his estate in future sales, 20% will be a very large amount. At least Michael's heart was in the right place. JMO

[daniel green]

After Michael Jackson's burial last night at Forest Lawn, his famous friends and family members gathered at an Italian restaurant in Pasadena for one last hurrah ... with one star busting out a fedora and an MJ dance move for a quick Jacko tribute. After La Toya, Tito and Reverend Al Sharpton left the joint, it was MJ's old friend Corey Feldman who made the crowd go nuts by the valet stand.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/04/celeb-mj-impersonator-at-jackson-after-party/#ixzz0QAHO88RZ

[Hanalei]

I saw a few pics of Katherine and she looked really sad I hope that there is someone in her place to take care of the kids if she doesn't die from a broken heart.

I don't recall seeing any part of the ceremony. At the very beginning his children laid the crown upon his casket there was no more viewing of the ceremony.

The most private ceremony would be when he was taken into the Mausoleum and when the guests filed inside.

Katherine was said to be so distraught that at first she turned back and couldn't go inside. I think it really has taken its toll on her now and she knew she would never get to see her son here on earth again. Jim Morey said that in the Katherine's religious beliefs MJ is at sleep now.

My heart is with his children and the rest of his family.

I am sure they will visit him often and draw comfort he sleeps in peace now.

imo

[BOZGAL2]

For the love of Pete.
To pick apart every minute detail of a funeral just does not exist in my world or the way I was raised. :sad:

I am quite sure Katherine is overcome with grief and emotions right now. Not to mention the children. Since when is it a crime or requirement to be on a minute by minute schedule for a funeral. :rolleyes: I personally did not pay for any of the service, nor anyone else here. I also would not tolerate anyone dictating or making unnecessary, rude remarks on how I would lay a loved one to rest.
Ridiculous.

I am sure if it were a crime to be late for a funeral, LAPD will be all over it.

JMO

[Hanalei]

But smoke will! There is a major fire buning in LA only 10 miles away where the funeral was if you didn't already know.


HOLY COW !!

I didn't know that the heat makes your eyes red ! Thanks for the info.

[Hanalei]

I have no problem if they want to throw away money like they way they did they are just as bad as MJ with money. The Jackson lived off of MJ and they haven't stopped since he died. The only one with their own money is Janet and maybe even Ruby but the rest lived off of MJ. I would have more respect for the Jacksons if they stopped riding the coat tails of their dead brother I think even MJ was sick of them using him too for money and that's why he became estranged from them IMO. The Jacksons try to put up a front like they are this close knit family it's just for show and the cameras.


For the love of Pete.
To pick apart every minute detail of a funeral just does not exist in my world or the way I was raised. :sad:

I am quite sure Katherine is overcome with grief and emotions right now. Not to mention the children. Since when is it a crime or requirement to be on a minute by minute schedule for a funeral. :rolleyes: I personally did not pay for any of the service, nor anyone else here. I also would not tolerate anyone dictating or making unnecessary, rude remarks on how I would lay a loved one to rest.
Ridiculous.

I am sure if it were a crime to be late for a funeral, LAPD will be all over it.

JMO

[Firehead11]

http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/events/la-me-michael-jackson-memorial-pictures,0,6577659,showall.photogallery

Pictures from last night funeral services and the Staples Tribute.
The pictures of Dame Elizabeth Taylor and Katherine Jackson that I had posted about are among them.

[ABC]

But smoke will! There is a major fire buning in LA only 10 miles away where the funeral was if you didn't already know.
We are 300 miles away but our valley is full of the smoke and its gritty, too. We have been on Red Air Quality Alert for five days. The smoke is making folks very sick and anyone who can is holed up in the AC. I can not even imagine sitting there for hours, particuarly folks like Liz Tayor and others who have a history of lung problems. The smoke irritates the eyes.

[BOZGAL2]

We are 300 miles away but our valley is full of the smoke and its gritty, too. We have been on Red Air Quality Alert for five days. The smoke is making folks very sick and anyone who can is holed up in the AC. I can not even imagine sitting there for hours, particuarly folks like Liz Tayor and others who have a history of lung problems. Not only does the haze make eyes red but its full of gritt.

I am sure it was difficult to be there with the air quality. But I feel more sure in my heart it was much more difficult to be there to lay their cherished and loved one to rest. A small sacrifice in their eyes. JMO

[RootBeer]

I think it was terribly rude of the Jackson family to be so late. jmo

[Hanalei]

A lot those "friends" that showed up haven't talked to MJ in yrs
And I bet some of them showed up to get on tv to jump start their career again. IMO IE Corey Feldman and Chris Tucker to name a few.

I am sure it was difficult to be there with the air quality. But I feel more sure in my heart it was much more difficult to be there to lay their cherished and loved one to rest. A small sacrifice in their eyes. JMO

[Hanalei]

I agree I could understand if MJ just died but he's been dead for over 2 months they had a long time to get there on time it's not like there was traffic! Geez!

I think it was terribly rude of the Jackson family to be so late. jmo

[retiredcop]

I may be old cop but my hearing is still very good. I know what I heard and you can choose to believe me or call me a liar. Why should a poster supply a link to something he/she heard on the TV or live feed? Maybe you can find the link you need on YouTube. Beyond that I can't help you. It is of no consequence to me.

ETA: Is it out of the realm of possibility that you just might have missed it yourself?

I didn't ask you for a link.

[Xenam]

This was posted as a statement of fact and I am requesting a link.


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Yes, the noble cause. By the way.. the reason the family was late was due to Michaels Mother, Katherine incappacitated with grief and sadness. Enjoy your night.
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~Rest in Peace Michael~
Free of all the evil that surrounded you in life.
You made the world a better place, and we will miss you.


Oh for goodness sake - why would it be questionable that a mother who just buried her son would be overcome with grief? No doubt it has to be a very difficult time for her as it is for most mothers who bury their children. :rolleyes:

Michael Jackson's mother was overcome with grief as she attended the singer's low-key funeral in Los Angeles.

One mourner, who asked not to be named, said Katherine Jackson had a difficult time going into the mausoleum.

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?Mothers_grief_at_Jackson_funeral&in_article_id=731017&in_page_id=7

Katherine Jackson, overcome by sorrow, turned back when she was faced with her son’s final resting place.

http://blog.taragana.com/e/2009/09/04/guest-jackson-funeral-touching-emotional-paris-weeps-katherine-falters-at-mausoleum-30745/

[retiredcop]

No more rude than it was for the Kennedy family to be late and leave all the people outside in incliment weather. I'm not sure how many posters complained about the Kennedy's being late.

Why do you keep bringing up the Kennedys as if the Jacksons are comparable to the Kennedy family? GMAB

in my opinion

[retiredcop]

Oh for goodness sake - why would it be questionable that a mother who just buried her son would be overcome with grief? No doubt it has to be a very difficult time for her as it is for most mothers who bury their children. :rolleyes:

Katherine Jackson, overcome by sorrow, turned back when she was faced with her son’s final resting place.

http://blog.taragana.com/e/2009/09/04/guest-jackson-funeral-touching-emotional-paris-weeps-katherine-falters-at-mausoleum-30745/

The family was over an hour late and I don't believe the reason was because Mrs Jackson was over come with grief. It was rude to keep the guests waiting and there is no excuse for it.

in my opinion

[Xenam]

A lot those "friends" that showed up haven't talked to MJ in yrs
And I bet some of them showed up to get on tv to jump start their career again. IMO IE Corey Feldman and Chris Tucker to name a few.

And you know this how? They are not only friends of MJ but have remained in contact with the family and are invited to private events. Although MJ did not attend -- CF attended LaToya's birthday party and Chris Tucker in an interview on PBS org a few months ago (PRIOR) to MJ's death said he speaks with MJ. I don't even understand why some even bring stuff like this up other than to create controversy. JMHO :rolleyes:

http://www.popeater.com/2009/06/26/corey-feldman-on-michael-jackson/

[Xenam]

The family was over an hour late and I don't believe the reason was because Mrs Jackson was over come with grief. It was rude to keep the guests waiting and there is no excuse for it.

in my opinion

Not my right to judge anyone -- I'll leave that up to the guests that were affected but my guess would be they probably understood. I notice the guest that gave the interview above did not complain and we were not privy to any explanation that may or may not have been offered.

[Xenam]

You have no independent knowlege why they were late. So.. I guess that you also believe the Kennedy family had no excuse for their late arrival, and they were rude to do so.

I am glad that has been cleared up. Thanks.

Nic -- hate breeds negativity -- doesn't matter what you say -- there are some that will use anything as an attempt to bash the Jacksons to support their hate campaign. Think is says more about those that find so much fault in another and have a need to put others down ..... JMO

For some to believe that KJ was NOT grief stricken is beyond comprehension. A loving mother buried her son.

See you all later - not interested in joining in all of this unnecessary bashing. I hope MJ can finally rest in peace.

[Cindylee]

You have no independent knowlege why they were late. So.. I guess that you also believe the Kennedy family had no excuse for their late arrival, and they were rude to do so.

I am glad that has been cleared up. Thanks.

I believe they were both rude. If there were so many people to organize, they both should have started to get ready earlier.
I was late to pick up a friend once when I was a teenager, and my mom asked me if I thought I was more important than Sue? I said no, and she said then why would you think her time is any less important than your time. From that day on, I was always early. I do think it is rude to make people wait for another. It is difficult to get large groups of people organized, but they should have taken that into consideration.

[GentleBreeze]

Did you hear a report that the guests had been forced to attend and stay against their will? Or do you think that the guests were incapable of standing up, walking to their car,(or wheelchaired to their car) and simply leaving? Do you think the guests would come and then stay if they didn't want to be there? Why do you make their choices your concern? Its not like you care for any of these people, but rather they are used by you as a vehicle to continue bashing either Michael, or his family.

Of course they weren't. Certain others seem to have a problem with it but the guests there seemed to be enjoying talking with those around them.

I am sure they enjoyed the reverent service and thought it was a peaceful and befitting service.

There have been articles that talked about many tears being shed at his funeral.

I saw no one hacking for air on the beautiful grounds at Forest Lawn.

The Jacksons surely aren't the only well known family that has been late for services for one of their own with the people there waiting.

imo

[Xenam]

Before I go just want to address a post I noticed in an older thread. Don't recall who posted it -- but neither Corey Feldman nor Corey Haim were ever molested by MJ and neither claimed he did either.

Both men were abused when they were younger and not by MJ JMO

"You were friends, famously, with Michael Jackson. Are you worried that people will assume he did this to you?
People can say whatever they want, but it wasn’t Michael. He and I have our own issues, but that wasn’t one of them. The bottom line is, I know who it was. I didn’t know how to cut him off. Not only did I continue being friends with the guy, but he was working for me.

http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2008/06/the-very-lost-b.html

[GentleBreeze]

Thankfully none of them care what you think.

And that is an understatement.:wink:

It might burst someone's bubble if they really did realize just how little (zilch, nada, zero) the Jacksons care what outsiders think.

Had they really cared what some of the naysayers think they would have buried MJ in a pauper's grave and bought plastic flowers. But since they don't give a tinkers damn what others say or think they saw to it he was entombed in grand style in one of the most exclusive cemeteries in this country. Good for them. It will be gorgeous there when they go into the chapel/meditation area when they visit there.

And the Judge ok'd every dime of it.:wink: He understood that an extraordinary man is put away extraordinarily.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I believed the reporter when he said Katherine was incapacitated with grief. And I can't hold that against her, because after all, she was about to bury her beloved son.

ps.. You weren't here last night bashing for the duration of the service, and again.. those things don't go unnoticed. : )

A parent just isn't suppose to bury their child. My heart breaks for Katherine. Now doubt she loved Michael as much as he loved her.

I remember seeing the video where he is singing for his mother and her eyes just twinkled with pride, love and admiration.

My heart is with all of them as they now embark on their long journey to healing.

imo

[who_is_it]

How nice to read Quincy Jones attended the funeral! Quincy had said after Michael's death he doesn't like funerals and memorials because too many friends of him have passed away. Now he attended Michael's funeral, though.

Rest in peace, Michael! I will always keep in mind what a loving and caring wonderful human being he was!

:rose:

[GentleBreeze]

The family was over an hour late and I don't believe the reason was because Mrs Jackson was over come with grief. It was rude to keep the guests waiting and there is no excuse for it.

in my opinion

I bet the guests aren't asking for any excuse either.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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At least the Kennedys didn't film the funeral to make a reality show out of it.............absolutely ridiculous. imo

Do you have a link that the funeral is going to be shown on a reality show and was made solely for that purpose?

I just went to a funeral where the entire funeral including graveside services was videoed from beginning to end and done by a professional who in turn gave it to the widow to always have those cherished memories and all the eulogies spoken by friends and loved ones.

Why would you expect the Jacksons to be any different than the average person who has lost a loved one?

imo

[BOZGAL2]

I bet the guests aren't asking for any excuse either.

imo

Of course the guests were not looking for an excuse or reason. It is beyond comprehension to believe anyone would. Totally.

JMO

[BOZGAL2]

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yeah right.............like they enjoyed sitting in 90 degrees for a hour and a half. eyeroll imo

Maybe some of them did enjoy the warmer weather. Maybe some of them are on blood thinner. Maybe they would not have been there unless they wanted to be.

JMO

[BOZGAL2]

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oh for cring out loud............i think everyone knows why the funeral was recorded and its not for cherished moments.........its to make as much money off of it as possible. imo

By the huge WOOPLA the funeral has caused with wild speculations, they should make a fortune. :wink:

[GentleBreeze]

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yeah right.............like they enjoyed sitting in 90 degrees for a hour and a half. eyeroll imo

It was already 86 degrees by 7 pm and the temp was dropping.

Ted Rowlands and Jim Morey both said it was turning out to be a very nice evening.

Nope, not one word abut anyone being upset or leaving.

I think they are capable of actually knowing how they felt since they were there and stayed for the entire service,

Saw no one hacking for air or passing out from heat and most of the men were dressed in very nice suits.

Nope, just sitting there peacefully waiting for MJs hearse and family to arrive.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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Or maybe they wouldnt have went at all if they new it would be 1 1/2 hours late..............especially when they knew the temp. was 90 degrees. ever thought of that? Or do u have another excuse u wanna throw out there? imo

I think it is obvious that the heat nor the late start detered any guests that was there.

They stayed because they thought it was important for them to be there as he was laid to rest.

imo+

[BOZGAL2]

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wild speculations? It was what it was !!!!!!! The jacksons can never get enough money.........its called greed. I hope their reality show flops. imo

And this is what it is as well.
Whatever that might be. :rolleyes:

JMO

[GentleBreeze]

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oh for cring out loud............i think everyone knows why the funeral was recorded and its not for cherished moments.........its to make as much money off of it as possible. imo

No, I haven't seen any factual information that this was taped for the sole reason you have said. Enlighten me. Where is the link. All I have seen is rampant speculations.

Well if anyone has a right to make money because of MJ then it certainly is reasonable it would his family instead of some outsider.

Why do you have a problem with them having income? What's it to you?

By that stance you must believe that Lisa and Priscilla has made many millions off of Elvis Presley's death since Graceland was open to tourists and Elvis mementos sold.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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Selective sight on your part. I seen a lot of people with fans. Its easy for u to sit there and say these people didn't care about the heat when u were sitting in front of your computer in air conditioning.
Lord Have Mercy. eyeroll imo

Oh really? Have you heard anyone complain?

Could it be since they were there and we were not that they know why the services started late. LOL! I have a feeling they know much more than we do.

imo

[Cindylee]

And that is an understatement.:wink:

It might burst someone's bubble if they really did realize just how little (zilch, nada, zero) the Jacksons care what outsiders think.

Had they really cared what some of the naysayers think they would have buried MJ in a pauper's grave and bought plastic flowers. But since they don't give a tinkers damn what others say or think they saw to it he was entombed in grand style in one of the most exclusive cemeteries in this country. Good for them. It will be gorgeous there when they go into the chapel/meditation area when they visit there.

And the Judge ok'd every dime of it.:wink: He understood that an extraordinary man is put away extraordinarily.

imo

I don't care how they buried their family member. That is their business. But, they really should care about how the general public views their actions, because the general public is the one that is going to go to their movie, go to the Michael Jackson Tour, buy his CD's, and keep their estate afloat. IMO Oh, and watch the Jackson Brother's TV show.

[GentleBreeze]

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And i haven't heard one word about KJ offering an apology for the delay.

Its just plain rude..............no matter how YOU spin it. imo

Maybe she knows she doesnt have to and the people there understand.

You have no idea if it was rude or not. You dont even know the reason for the delay.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I don't care how they buried their family member. That is their business. But, they really should care about how the general public views their actions, because the general public is the one that is going to go to their movie, go to the Michael Jackson Tour, buy his CD's, and keep their estate afloat. IMO Oh, and watch the Jackson Brother's TV show.

Oh I really think they already know the truth about that Cindy.

The ones who will buy MJs music and want to see the movie will do so and the ones that never were will keep on being the same no matter how the Jacksons act.

The same with the Jackson Brothers reality show.

Imo, they are not marketing to those who do not care for MJ or the Jackson family anyway.

imo

[Firehead11]

Most don't have a deceased family member who happens to be the most famous and recognized man in the world either. :rolleyes:

Do you want a laugh??

You know my opinion of MJ and his family. You know my opinion of his music and what I believe to be true and whaat I believe to be false. I watched the tribute to him that was held at the Staples Arena. I did not watch the funeral coverage. But I think it is rather funny that all of these posters that have found fault with the funeral, sat and watched as much as they could and from more than one source.


Kinda makes you question the motive behind the viewing, doesn't it?

[GentleBreeze]

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By the way, if u want a link, go to TMZ....i wont do the work for u. imo

I don't consider TMZ a reputable link. They are a well known gossip site.

I knew you would not produce a link. You never do.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

Do you want a laugh??

You know my opinion of MJ and his family. You know my opinion of his music and what I believe to be true and whaat I believe to be false. I watched the tribute to him that was held at the Staples Arena. I did not watch the funeral coverage. But I think it is rather funny that all of these posters that have found fault with the funeral, sat and watched as much as they could and from more than one source.


Kinda makes you question the motive behind the viewing, doesn't it?

:wink: Amazing, huh? :lol:

If I detested one man as much as some do I sure wouldn't waste my time keeping up with every little teeny tiny thing.

imo

[RootBeer]

No more rude than it was for the Kennedy family to be late and leave all the people outside in incliment weather. I'm not sure how many posters complained about the Kennedy's being late.

Well, if I followed that funeral, I would say they were rude also.

[RootBeer]

Thankfully none of them care what you think.

And you know this personally???

[RootBeer]

And that is an understatement.:wink:

It might burst someone's bubble if they really did realize just how little (zilch, nada, zero) the Jacksons care what outsiders think.

Had they really cared what some of the naysayers think they would have buried MJ in a pauper's grave and bought plastic flowers. But since they don't give a tinkers damn what others say or think they saw to it he was entombed in grand style in one of the most exclusive cemeteries in this country. Good for them. It will be gorgeous there when they go into the chapel/meditation area when they visit there.

And the Judge ok'd every dime of it.:wink: He understood that an extraordinary man is put away extraordinarily.

imo

I wonder how much they care about you making up excuses for them?

[Cindylee]

Michael Jackson made Michael Jackson what he is today, through immense talent, hard work, sacrifice, and dedication..etc.

imo...of course.

And without his fans, he would have been nothing. You can't discount them.

[RootBeer]

I am a fan of MJ and love his music, but his family is still rude for being so late. And everytime MJ was late to things, he was rude then too.

[Cindylee]

I am a fan of MJ and love his music, but his family is still rude for being so late. And everytime MJ was late to things, he was rude then too.

Well, I was always under the impression that "starts promptly at 7:00" means just that. I could understand a few minutes or even a half an hour, but that was a bit much.

When I have an event I expect my guests to be on time. That is unless I am inviting some of my foreign friends, then I always tell them an hour earlier. :laugh:

[Cindylee]

Without him there would be no fans. The fans are a descendent of his immense talent...etc.:tonguewag:

No, that is true, but they would have just followed someone else. :tonguewag:

[RootBeer]

There were cameras shooting everything at the after-party for Michael Jackson's burial -- and we're told the whole thing could end up on A&E.

Sources tell TMZ footage from inside the party -- as well as the funeral itself -- will be used for an A&E special, plus a DVD at a later date.

Don't expect to see Joe or Katherine Jackson, Michael's three children or Elizabeth Taylor in the footage though -- we're told none of them went to the restaurant after the burial.

A few other random tidbits about the affair: Rat Pack music played all night, "Casablanca" was projected onto the walls, the brothers talked about a reunion tour -- and Janet seemed the most grief stricken of the group.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0QBoXdKQ7

[Cindylee]

I do find it interesting that people are saying that the Jackson's shouldn't care what anyone thinks. From what I have been learning here, that was what got MJ"s into trouble back in the day. As it was, right or wrong I think he did lose a lot of fans. I understand that his fan base then switched to Europe. These celebs should care. I am not just talking about MJ, or the Jackson's. The "fans" are the ones paying their bills. It happens everyday with "stars" that have messed up. They do pay a price for their mistakes. The pedestal can be very shaky.

[RootBeer]

Yes I do.....

Isn't that special. :laugh:

[RootBeer]

http://books.google.com/books?id=We410enhdsIC&dq=ray+chandler&printsec=frontcover&source=in&hl=en&ei=E7mhSrGXCouiMMio5eQP&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13#v=onepage&q=ray%20chandler&f=false

I wonder if Jordan Chandler was invited to the funeral?

[Cindylee]

My lateness is for reasons entirely different than what you suggest.

I don't see why anyone has a reason to be late. If it takes you longer to get ready, you start earlier. I really don't think there is any reason to be late, habitually. Everyone is late at one time or another, but you said you love to be late. :shrug:

[Cindylee]

I used to hate to be late, but then got used to it and grew to love it.
:closedeyes:

Why?..........

[GentleBreeze]

I do find it interesting that people are saying that the Jackson's shouldn't care what anyone thinks. From what I have been learning here, that was what got MJ"s into trouble back in the day. As it was, right or wrong I think he did lose a lot of fans. I understand that his fan base then switched to Europe. These celebs should care. I am not just talking about MJ, or the Jackson's. The "fans" are the ones paying their bills. It happens everyday with "stars" that have messed up. They do pay a price for their mistakes. The pedestal can be very shaky.

Many of the media commentary have said that MJs fan base has grown tremendously since his death. Even those who weren't ardent fans before his death have become one since his passing.

I don't think MJs popularity will wane. I think it will be like Elvis and he will have more fans posthumously than he even did when he was alive and we know what a huge fan base MJ has always had all across the world.

People wont be a fan or be one because of any of the rest of the Jackson family. MJ is the appeal and the draw and that will not change no matter what the Jackson family does or doesn't do.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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FYI i watched very little of both. How is one supposed to form an opinion without watching? eyeroll imo

How can you form an opinion if you didn't even watch it?

imo

[Cindylee]

Many of the media commentary have said that MJs fan base has grown tremendously since his death. Even those who weren't ardent fans before his death have become one since his passing.

I don't think MJs popularity will wane. I think it will be like Elvis and he will have more fans posthumously than he even did when he was alive and we know what a huge fan base MJ has always had all across the world.

People wont be a fan or be one because of any of the rest of the Jackson family. MJ is the appeal and the draw and that will not change no matter what the Jackson family does or doesn't do.

imo

I was pretty sure that this is the way you would feel.

[GentleBreeze]

Cindylee
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 846

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I expected no less from you. Quote:

WTH does that mean?????????

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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Oh i think she does. imo

Why? Who is demanding an apology?

imo

[Cindylee]

How can you form an opinion if you didn't even watch it?

imo

I didn't watch it, and I have formed a few opinions. Those are based on what I have read, not only here, but other publications. What I think is that this filming of the service WILL be used as a money making venture by a few or all of the Jackson's. Time will tell. And it is my opinion that it was horribly rude to make all of those people wait for that amount of time. I don't have to have seen it to come to those conclusions.

[GentleBreeze]

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That is total Bull. The public paid for everything........his cds, his records, his concerts.............where would MJ have been if it weren't for the public. No one...........not even MJ.........did anything for free. But i'm not surprised at your above comment. Right on target i would say. imo

The public didn't pay a for a darn thing.

His fans made MJ the icon he was.........not the general public.

imo

[Cindylee]

Cindylee
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 846

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I expected no less from you. Quote:

WTH does that mean?????????

imo

I deleted that, but what I mean is that you have an excuse or a reason for anything Jackson. It wouldn't matter what they or MJ did, you would excuse it.

[GentleBreeze]

I didn't watch it, and I have formed a few opinions. Those are based on what I have read, not only here, but other publications. What I think is that this filming of the service WILL be used as a money making venture by a few or all of the Jackson's. Time will tell. And it is my opinion that it was horribly rude to make all of those people wait for that amount of time. I don't have to have seen it to come to those conclusions.

I see that.

I don't see any of the guests foaming at the mouth with rage because the service started late. In fact it would not surprise me they are very aware of the reason the hearse and family was late.

I would rather the Jackson family make money off of MJs passing than an outsider.

imo

[Cindylee]

I see that.

I don't see any of the guests foaming at the mouth with rage because the services started late. In fact it would not surprise me they are very aware of the reason the hearse and family was late.

I would rather the Jackson family make money off of MJs passing than an outsider.

imo

So, you wouldn't find it a bit of a falsehood to announce a very private funeral for friends and family, and then to find out it had been taped and put on a TV show to make money? We'll see if this happens, I really have no idea if it will or not, speculation. But, you wouldn't see anything wrong with that?

[Cindylee]

No one forced the residents to buy a house so close to the cemetery of the biggest stars.
*shrug*


:lol: Oh Boy. Worms....or spinners. :laugh:

[GentleBreeze]

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Give it a rest Scooby, same old message day after day, week after week. Your incessant glorification of MJ is getting very redundant and very tiresome.

Do you know that Coldwater banned another poster because of this same thing?

Were is your proof that Nic A Day is Scooby.

And it is against TOS to call a poster by any other nic except the one you are replying to..........

imo