Glenn Beck....... [m]

[GWTW]

http://econsultancy.com/blog/4523-should-advertisers-boycott-glenn-beck

"Yet boycotting Beck may not be such an easy decision for many of them because of one fact: Beck's controversial statement hasn't put a dent in his show's popularity. In fact, the Glenn Beck Program is "pure ratings gold", pulling in the greatest number of cable news viewers between the ages of 25 and 54 at night even though he airs in a pre-primetime slot."

:thumbsup:

[Lynden1000]

http://econsultancy.com/blog/4523-should-advertisers-boycott-glenn-beck

"Yet boycotting Beck may not be such an easy decision for many of them because of one fact: Beck's controversial statement hasn't put a dent in his show's popularity. In fact, the Glenn Beck Program is "pure ratings gold", pulling in the greatest number of cable news viewers between the ages of 25 and 54 at night even though he airs in a pre-primetime slot."

:thumbsup:

Advertisers should do whatever is in the best interest of their business and thus their shareholders. If advertising on Beck's show is driving sales, fine. If it's hurting sales and they dump the show, that's fine too.

[theal3]

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909010007

Why Glenn Beck, and Fox News, can't escape the "racist" trap
September 01, 2009 10:11 am ET

"Have so many blue-chip advertisers ever fled a program as quickly as the who's who of corporate America that's sprinted away from Glenn Beck in recent weeks? I certainly cannot recall ever seeing a mass exodus of this scale.

The A-list collection of disgruntled Beck advertisers is staggering: Applebee's, AT&T, Bank of America, Best Buy, Campbell Soup, Clorox, ConAgra, CVS, Ditech, Farmers Insurance Group, GEICO, General Mills, Johnson & Johnson, Lowe's, Nutrisystem, Procter & Gamble, Progressive Insurance, RadioShack, Sprint, State Farm Insurance, The UPS Store, Travelers Insurance, Verizon Wireless, Vonage, and Wal-Mart, among others."


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He called the president a racist, they suspended him for a week or so, and now have him back, but the advertisers keep leaving.

Good Luck to Beck and Fox.

[orangetaffy]

Totally agree with the bottom line expressed in this link -
http://econsultancy.com/blog/4523-should-advertisers-boycott-glenn-beck



The article also asks a very good question - "Do any of these advertisers have reason to court consumers who don't watch Beck over those who do?"

Ive been reading about the "Buycott", where people are spending money at places being boycotted by the left. So, while some may not support free speech, other's still do, obviously.

[kristy5]

Of course every sponsor should dump Beck. I promise you that I will not do business with any who have not. There aren't many left, though! :lol:

moo :patriot:

Well scream your hatred of Glen Beck all you want. Mt. Vernon apparently feels he should get the key to their city.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/409779_beck02.html?source=rss

[daniel green]

Great news today -- 11 more sponsors have distanced themselves from Glenn Beck's television program, bringing the total to 57. Eleven new companies whose ads were recently seen during Beck's program--Binder & Binder, Capital One, The Dannon Company, Discover, HSBC, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance, Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network, Mercedes-Benz and Simplex Healthcare (creator of the Diabetes Care Club) --have pledged to ColorOfChange.org to take steps to ensure that their ads don't run on Beck's show. Fifty-seven companies have now committed not to support Beck's show since ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign four weeks ago after the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a "racist" who "has a deep-seated hatred for white people" during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/eleven-more-companies-dit_b_275756.html

[orangetaffy]

ColorOfChange.org ... that's Van Jones' group, is it not? So now members of Obama's staff are involved in boycotting a program? Doesn't sound good to me. I think political leaders should stay out of this type of thing. It gives the appearance of the government trying to control the media...never a good thing, IMO.

[GentleBreeze]

Has Beck's ratings dropped because of this?

imo

[orangetaffy]

Link to a credible source please. :crying:

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for September 2, 2009

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck– 2,676,000 viewers (637,000) (1,252,000)
Situation Room—551,000 viewers (91,000) (209,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—476,000 viewers (82,000) (170,000)
Fast Money—220,000 viewers (58,000) (125,000)
Prime News–256,000 viewers (86,000) (147,000)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/09/03/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-september-2-2009/26200

The other programs dont come anywhere near the viewership of beck.

[Philly]

The man is nuts. Who cares how many viewers he has. Doesn't say much about the intelligence of his audience. Yesterday he was finding Socialist symbols in the NBC building. If that is what these people find interesting, so be it. I know I've boycotted his advertisers.

[orangetaffy]

The man is nuts. Who cares how many viewers he has. Doesn't say much about the intelligence of his audience. Yesterday he was finding Socialist symbols in the NBC building. If that is what these people find interesting, so be it. I know I've boycotted his advertisers.

IMO everyone should be free to have their say. While some are boycotting Beck's advertisers, others are boycotting the advertisers who pulled out. That's the American way.

[MiamiNice1]

Rush Limbaugh must be relieved. :rolleyes:....:laugh:

[daniel green]

No, sending me links to the last two Countdowns with my own de-constructions of his biblical vision quality Communist/Fascist/Socialist/Zimbalist art at Rockefeller Center (where, curiously, he works, Comrade) doesn't count.

I saw KO show that clip of GB and am quite concerned that poor GB is sliding off the edge of sanity.

[orangetaffy]

LOL people should send him emails with one liners, till his email crashes, like they did when the WH was asking people to send in things people were saying about health care.

1st email -- Glenn wrote a book

2nd email -- Glenn is on Fox

3rd email -- Glenn has blonde hair

[just42day97]

I saw KO show that clip of GB and am quite concerned that poor GB is sliding off the edge of sanity.

Agree....but I think he has been off the edge of sanity..He's like a mad man....

[daniel green]

Agree....but I think he has been off the edge of sanity..He's like a mad man....

The circling of the first letter of words and that crazy thing about the art commissioned by Rockefeller was truly like watching someone lose his mind.

[MiamiNice1]

LOL people should send him emails with one liners, till his email crashes, like they did when the WH was asking people to send in things people were saying about health care.

1st email -- Glenn wrote a book

2nd email -- Glenn is on Fox

3rd email -- Glenn has blonde hair
:lol: This made me burst out laughing, OT!!

[MiamiNice1]

I wonder if he is looking for "fishy" stuff just like the other silly request.
Beyond silly. Sad, really.

[MiamiNice1]

God, it really could get funny.

Glen ate breakfast.

Glen wrote an email.

Glen drank some coffee.

After awhile it would almost look as padded as the lists of what Obama has accomplished. :biggrin:
LOL about the padding!!!

Glen cleaned his glasses.

Glen is becoming unhinged.

Glen took an aspirin.

Glen is saying mean things about the Democrats.


:laugh:

[orangetaffy]

It's really kind of sad. At 5PM, Glen Beck has nearly 3 times the views that Olbermann has at 8PM.

Jealousy rears its ugly head, IMO

[daniel green]

http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news/glenn-beck-loses-11-more-sponsors/

Almost 60 sponsors flee his show.

[MiamiNice1]

The Boycott is a joke and has only served to INCREASE Beck's viewership! :thumbsup:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html

As Boycott Continues, Glenn Beck's Audience Swells


imo

[MiamiNice1]

He's probably hoping the crazies keep it up. Soon he will be the top rated show at FOX. :tonguewag:
Yep, he is a real threat to the Left. That's what has got them in such a frenzy over him.

imo

[MiamiNice1]

I'm kinda with ya on that one!

Beck can get a little Loopy from time to time but, Good Lord, look at the things that BO (in conjunction with the Teleprompter) has proposed!!!

Beck?

BO?

My money is on Beck!!

LOL!!

:laugh::laugh::

I don't watch Beck, but what I have seen, he is entertaining and sure knows how to promote himself. If he was responsible for Van Jones' ouster, then good for him. The Obama administration can benefit from the accountability.

imo

[MiamiNice1]

Well, I don't watch him but considering their less than desirable sources, they should just be quiet about him.

The Left doesn't learn. Yes, they should keep quiet instead of finding 1,001 ways to try to discredit anyone who appears to be a threat to BO.

That reminds me - we went to Whole Foods tonight to pick up some veggies and lo and behold - remember that supposed boycott? Well, we couldn't even find ONE parking spot. We left!!! :crying:

imo

[MiamiNice1]

I think normal people usually ignore these contrived "boycotts".

If there is an actual basis, then I think a boycott is effective. But that is usually dealing with something concrete and a danger to people.
Good observation. This boycott was a big drama, whipped up by The Huffington Post, IMO. No basis. No success.

imo

[theal3]

The circling of the first letter of words and that crazy thing about the art commissioned by Rockefeller was truly like watching someone lose his mind.

My husband and I laughed out loud at the loon. He was presenting the Art Deco art on the bldings as being hidden, or secret, or not noticed by folks and he alone discovered the hidden symbols and messages and was alert America: LOL, anybody that's gone to college or studying American History knows about those turn of the century art works, and how they were commission and so on. They are all over America, and part of our rich culture a the turn of the Century.... then he kept calling Rockefeller a Republican tycoon CEO a "progressive." Then shows a knock off minature sculpture he himself bought of the Russian sculpture given as a gift to America for the grounds of the UN, and somehow the way he connected the dots, was part of an evil conspiracy. The "hammer" he showed, but admitted it was hard to see, was really a shovel. LOL. He totally was looney, and who uses a chalkboard now days? Overhead projectors, and grease/swipe boards or Power Point/screen presentations are the way these days, and have been for years.

I actually went over to Wiki today to read about his history, life, education etc: very tragic and sad indeed. It sure explains his bizarre behavior.

[daniel green]

snipped

I actually went over to Wiki today to read about his history, life, education etc: very tragic and sad indeed. It sure explains his bizarre behavior.

I don't know a thing about him. Just have seen his clips on KO. Guess I will have to take a look.

[daniel green]

The Boycott is a joke and has only served to INCREASE Beck's viewership! :thumbsup:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html

As Boycott Continues, Glenn Beck's Audience Swells


imo

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works, and how increased viewership means nothing when 60 major advertisers have left the show.

Usually, ads are sold based on viewership. But here it is the reverse.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works, and how increased viewership means nothing when 60 major advertisers have left the show.

Usually, ads are sold based on viewership. But here it is the reverse.

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works. Increased viewership means more people are listening to him no matter the threat from anyone-- it matters not. And when one advertiser leaves another fills his/her spot or as Fox says they moved to different time spots – so it is not hurting their pockets.

The more people watching mean more people listening. And hearing about the likes of Van Jones.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html

[MiamiNice1]

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works. Increased viewership means more people are listening to him no matter the threat from anyone-- it matters not. And when one advertiser leaves another fills his/her spot or as Fox says they moved to different time spots – so it is not hurting their pockets.

The more people watching mean more people listening. And hearing about the likes of Van Jones.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2009/08/as-boycott-continues-glenn-becks-audience-swells.html
Thanks! I love how you provide such good information, IaN! I didn't have the energy. It's exhausting when the obvious needs to be spelled out. :)

imo

[daniel green]

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works. Increased viewership means more people are listening to him no matter the threat from anyone-- it matters not. snipped

Right. And that's what cable news is about. Getting listeners, not advertisers. :biggrin:

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Right. And that's what cable news is about. Getting listeners, not advertisers. :biggrin:

Since his show has not been cancled it would seem that you might be correct. :wink:

[daniel green]

That LA Times article was from when there were only 30 major advertisers who had pulled out their ads. Now it's close to 60.

[Brentwood]

Beck "lose[s]" His "Mind;" Screams At Caller:

The call is about Health Care

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92820/?fp=1

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

That LA Times article was from when there were only 30 major advertisers who had pulled out their ads. Now it's close to 60.

And it seems not to matter at all, to his show or to his viewers. Well no, I take that back-- seems he now has MORE viewers.

[emdragon]

Oh, if only ppl understood how it works, and how increased viewership means nothing when 60 major advertisers have left the show.

Usually, ads are sold based on viewership. But here it is the reverse.

You can have the the highest ratings on the network but if they can't sell the ad space the show won't survive.

[kristy5]

Good observation. This boycott was a big drama, whipped up by The Huffington Post, IMO. No basis. No success.

imo

I started listening to Glenn on the radio years ago before he had his TV program. I enjoy listening to him and my take is that he hits the nail on the head nearly all the time. Sometimes I think he's a little over the top until I sit and think about what he's said and then find that I agree with him. The truth hurts sometimes. And as far as boycotts go, I pretty much think they are childish and most of the time, they don't do any good. In Glenn's case, it's only made him more popular and people that didn't know who he was before, sure do now! Keep it up Glenn!

[newsjunkie]

I think it goes beyond that. He has to throw red meat to the crazies every once in awhile. He doesn't want to lose what little audience he has.


Little? You serious? Check the ratings! LOL

[newsjunkie]

You're right about that. The fact that Van Jones was allowed anywhere near government is just indicative of how inept this administration is. There is no way someone, who has used such hateful rhetoric and has such radical views, should be allowed to affect policy.



My gramma always said that the people that you have surrounding you reflect who you are.
That says everything to me about BO. (gotta love those initials) :smile:

[Brentwood]

Glenn Beck is nutso, imo, His rantings are scary. I prefer to listen to rational information sources, instead of the misinformation and hate that glenn beck spews.

[TimH]

Do you listen to Keith and Rachel on MSNBC...or Chris Matthews?

[Brentwood]

The GOP/right wing must have been truly inspired with his critique of those buildings that have secret codes and symbols on the them. :lol: I thought I would drop dead from laughing so hard. MOO

This is their new "Leader"/"Mentor", so to speak? :lol: You gotta love it!!! :lol:

MOO

Wasn't that something....secret nazi commi codes and symbols. It is hard to believe that some people believe that kind of carp??? lol

[Scampi]

The GOP/right wing must have been truly inspired with his critique of those buildings that have secret codes and symbols on the them. :lol: I thought I would drop dead from laughing so hard. MOO

This is their new "Leader"/"Mentor", so to speak? :lol: You gotta love it!!! :lol:

MOO


This is my theory of why beck has the viewers he does, pepople just love a good laugh. I will NEVER believe that people watch him for
serious reasons. People just aren't that stupid, imo.

[jammies]

I think Gleen has more audience then all the MSNBC commentator's audience added together.



On the internet too. I've heard to watch him live on internet you have to get on before the show starts otherwise it's too busy and can't get in.

[GMTminus6]

I heard a 4 minute Beck rant last night set to Pink Floyd's "brain Damage/ eclipse".

[orangetaffy]

My problem with the advertisers who are pulling their ads from the Glenn Beck show is, they are doing so at because of the push by Van Jones’ organizations. They aren’t doing it because they believe anything; they are doing it because of political encouragement. As far as I’m concerned, any business that supports Van Jones, doesn’t deserve my business.

I should add, I dont watch Glenn Beck's show, but I do support his right to be on the air, so will keep the list of those who companies are "boycotting" his show for my own personal use.

[Barbara2]

So, if Beck's program is so bad that sponsors are fleeing (they will be back now that Van Jones and his organization are being exposed), and Beck is just some "crazy" dude, why is Olbermann so worried that he is begging people to find dirt on Glenn and his producer?

He is being given credibility by all the fussing and hand-wringing over at MSNBC.....I think Olbermann protests too much on this one.

I think Olbermann is just trying to boost up his own ratings. His hope is that people will tune in just to see what he is saying about Beck. IOW, riding Beck's coattails to benefit himself. IMO

[Hey Paula]

Newspaper corrects 'Jackass' Keith Olbermann mix-up:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/keith-olbermann-jackass-mixup.html

[Hey Paula]

From the article:

"Worse, what if nobody noticed the difference?" lol

I cracked up when I read that, LOL! Truth in humor!

[MiamiNice1]

I think the Left is troubled because Beck has a sense of humor and is even capable of laughing at himself.

The Left is wired a little too tightly to appreciate this, preferring anger and outrage to laughter.

The closest most of them ever get to a belly laugh is a nervous chuckle complete with darting eyeballs.

IMO

:laugh::laugh:
Picturing this has me ROFL!!! :laugh:

[shiloh2000]

I saw KO show that clip of GB and am quite concerned that poor GB is sliding off the edge of sanity.

Link please:tonguewag:

[MiamiNice1]

Newspaper corrects 'Jackass' Keith Olbermann mix-up:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/keith-olbermann-jackass-mixup.html
Good one! A very understandable mix-up - I can see how they were confused! :sneaky:

imo

[trainer6]

My problem with the advertisers who are pulling their ads from the Glenn Beck show is, they are doing so at because of the push by Van Jones’ organizations. They aren’t doing it because they believe anything; they are doing it because of political encouragement. As far as I’m concerned, any business that supports Van Jones, doesn’t deserve my business.

I should add, I dont watch Glenn Beck's show, but I do support his right to be on the air, so will keep the list of those who companies are "boycotting" his show for my own personal use.

That's the truth. The strange thing is that the appointment of Van Jones and Beck's uncovering all of the unseemly aspects of his life has bolstered Beck's credibility. Now more people will be paying attention to his other accusations.

[trainer6]

Newspaper corrects 'Jackass' Keith Olbermann mix-up:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/keith-olbermann-jackass-mixup.html

That was funny.

[totallyBARD]

You're right about that. The fact that Van Jones was allowed anywhere near government is just indicative of how inept this administration is. There is no way someone, who has used such hateful rhetoric and has such radical views, should be allowed to affect policy.

I totally agree with you. The czars being picked by Obama are scary. I do not always agree with the overly-zealous Beck, but he was right on about Van Jones.

[MrsBeesley]

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So what?? I know a lot of people who watch it for pure entertainment. The guy is a loon, and his statements are beyond funny. I especially like his EXPOSE' on the buildings in NY that have codes on their exteriors leaning toward nazism. :lol: The guy is the gift that keeps on giving.

I know many people who watch it because he does and says such strange things. I usually watch him on youtube because there is a such a large collection there of his most bizarre moments.

[MrsBeesley]

So, let me get this straight. Some people watch Glenn for entertainment etc. It sounds like they are getting something positive out of watching him. Good! I have tried to watch Olbermann and get nothing but the desire to change the channel - which is what I do.

You are doing nothing to help the supposed boycott of Beck except maybe encouraging them to return because that is where the viewers are. LOL.

I think maybe little seeds are being planted when you watch so maybe someday you too can find the truth.
jmo

You are correct in thinking Beck offers us only little seeds of truth on his show. The rest is just large rotten fruits and vegetables of lies.

Beck and his advertisers just want money. I'm happy for them if they're getting it. It's the American way I suppose.

[MrsBeesley]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-4,00.html

"Lured by the Fox News Channel from CNN's Headline News channel last year, Beck has lit up the 5 p.m. slot in a way never thought possible by industry watchers, drawing upwards of 3 million viewers on some recent days. Indeed, despite his late-afternoon start, he sometimes beats even Bill O'Reilly, Fox's prime-time behemoth, in key ratings demographics. The value of his Fox contract is reliably said to be about $2 million per year. "

At the same link:
"The inevitable question is, How much of this industry is sincere? Last year, shortly after the election, Beck spoke with TIME's Kate Pickert, and he didn't sound very scared back then. Of Obama's early personnel decisions, he said, "I think so far he's chosen wisely." Of his feelings about the President: "I am not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of our country ... He is my President, and we must have him succeed. If he fails, we all fail." Of the Democratic Party: "I don't know personally a single Democrat who is a dope-smoking hippie that wants to turn us into Soviet Russia." Of the civic duty to trust: "We've got to pull together, because we are facing dark, dark times. I don't trust a single weasel in Washington. I don't care what party they're from. But unless we trust each other, we're not going to make it."

[Brentwood]

Glenn continues to be the most watched in his timeslot:


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

Some people like to watch the Jerry Springer type shows. It is well known.

[theal3]

This article is dated, but explain well how ratings are figured and how each station newwork vs cable figure thier ratings etc. Much in demographics has to do with quality of viewing vs quantity. Once can for instance claim "most watched" which really means folks tune in 6 minutes or longer or keep it on one station, but it's the same group of people each day, but advertizers want more people seeing their ads vs same people seeing the same ads over and over, so CNN for instance (and it's the bottom line) is financially more successful. Also what age groups are watching.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005

I read on another site that Fox has older, less rich, and less educated/professional type people watching it, so what products to advertize? Fox can say No.1 in cable, news, but network news has 3 or 4 times the viewers for news -3 or 4 million vs 1 million or several hundreds of thousand. Anyway, interesting read.

And though Beck lost 60 or so advertizers, Fox has dropped it rates to offer deals to other advertizers to gain $ to cover the losses.

[theal3]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

"Ratings
The Scoreboard: Thursday, September 17
By Kevin Allocca on Sep 18, 2009 04:59 PM

25-54 demographic: (L +SD)


Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.
continued..."

Bolding for emphasis - 25 - 54 demographic

Thanks for link -- it's the 25 to 54 age group that's most coveted, looks like MSNBC is beating CNN.

And Fox seems to claim all other media is left, that's why they are conservative, so the other 3 combined (the left) have more than Fox? Or it would appear that way. Guess there is room for all. Surprising how low matthews and dobbs are.

[justaguy]

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-4,00.html

"Lured by the Fox News Channel from CNN's Headline News channel last year, Beck has lit up the 5 p.m. slot in a way never thought possible by industry watchers, drawing upwards of 3 million viewers on some recent days. Indeed, despite his late-afternoon start, he sometimes beats even Bill O'Reilly, Fox's prime-time behemoth, in key ratings demographics. The value of his Fox contract is reliably said to be about $2 million per year. "

and when he was lured..IMO he started singing different songs..like his views on healthcare..as the piece on the daily show...showed. quote from the site: "If only the ailing Glenn Beck, 16 months ago, had received the health care he's raving about today."

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation

[justaguy]

Jon Stewart? Is he still around? MO u mean him...the host of the daily show that just won:

Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series for the seventh consecutive year? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Variety,_Musi c_or_Comedy_Series

yea he seems to be around. btw nice...noncommentary on the substance.

[justaguy]

Still around for sure. :thumbsup:

and tho i wondered at first..i have been glad that he and his show calls on the obama administration when they feel they are speaking from both sides of their mouths.

does anyone remember when it started/ when Craig Kilbourne hosted? it was a fun,silly,successful show. and when they switched hosts..i thought..there goes the show.

i am constantly amazed at how much research the staff of the daily show does. first they have to find the information, put it in a tv friendly way..and THEN write the jokes about it. i mean its not...tv's best bloopers ect. and his guests....from former presidents, to leaders of other countries. i think its quite amazing.

[daniel green]

Sept 28. Lets make it a day of Fast and Prayer for the Republic. Spread the word. Let us walk in the founders steps. Instituting "a day of Fast and Prayer for the Republic" may not exceed Beck's capacity as a Fox News talk show host, but co-opting Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish year, may be beyond even Beck's highest powers.



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aaron-keyak/glenn-beck-the-grinch-who_b_293792.html

[MiamiNice1]

Here is video of Glenn Beck today showing Barack Obama "in his own words" since he won't come on for an interview on Fox News Channel.

LINK (http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/glenn-beck-exclusive-obama-in-his-own.html)

:thumbsup:

Glenn Beck sure is a HOOT, isn't he? :laugh: Entertaining and educational. It's no wonder Obama didn't want to appear on FOX - they are exposing him.

imo

eta - your link, as always, works just fine!:thumbsup:

[daniel green]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

9/18/09

Beck - 670K
Matthews = 144K (nearest contender)

You do realize that Beck in only on a 5pm ET and that Matthews is on at 5 and 7?

For instance, the KO and RMaddow viewers are just as large, as they have viewers in the east coast at 8 and 9 and then different viewers in the midwest and west coast at 10 and 11 ET.

[daniel green]

I don’t pretend to be an expert on Beck. In the past I assumed he was a typical figure in the pundit and cable-media world. Only recently have I watched portions of his television program, as well as interviews with him, and heard parts of his radio program. And what I’ve seen should worry the conservative movement.

I say that because he seems to be more of a populist and libertarian than a conservative, more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American “imperialism.” (He is now talking about pulling troops out of Afghanistan, South Korea, Germany, and elsewhere.) Some of Beck’s statements—for example, that President Obama has a “deep-seated hatred for white people”–are quite unfair and not good for the country. His argument that there is very little difference between the two parties is silly, and his contempt for parties in general is anti-Burkean (Burke himself was a great champion of political parties). And then there is his sometimes bizarre behavior, from tearing up to screaming at his callers. Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger—the antithesis of Ronald Reagan.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152

Written by a former Bush officieal.

[MiamiNice1]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

9/18/09

Beck - 670K
Matthews = 144K (nearest contender)
According to your link, Beck's numbers (no matter what time slot you compare him to) are HIGHER than BOTH Maddow and Olbermann COMBINED?!

It is now easy to see why.

imo

[MrsBeesley]

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152

Written by a former Bush officieal.

I have to agree with what he's written at your link, including this.

"...he isn’t the face or disposition that should represent modern-day conservatism. At a time when we should aim for intellectual depth, for tough-minded and reasoned arguments, for good cheer and calm purpose, rather than erratic behavior, he is not the kind of figure conservatives should embrace or cheer on."

[daniel green]

As readers are no doubt aware, the latest swerve in the incoherent slalom of Glenn Beck's career as a pundit came when he went online for an interview with Katie Couric to insist -- after solid months of referring to President Barack Obama as a "radical" and a "racist" -- that the country would have been worse off under Senator John McCain, and that he might have voted for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is best known for what? Oh, yes! Attempting to provide universal, government-provided health care for all Americans. It was hard to watch without concluding that Beck's worldview lacked a certain -- shall we say...internal consistency.

Not surprisingly, there's a backlash brewing, courtesy of one of Beck's fellow right-wing talkers, Mark Levin:



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/conservative-radio-host-b_n_294786.html

[daniel green]

I have to agree with what he's written at your link, including this.

"...he isn’t the face or disposition that should represent modern-day conservatism. At a time when we should aim for intellectual depth, for tough-minded and reasoned arguments, for good cheer and calm purpose, rather than erratic behavior, he is not the kind of figure conservatives should embrace or cheer on."

It was a well-written and thought out piece by a conservative.

I think that conservatives agree with him, as well. It must be disconcerting, to say the least, to have this man be confused with one's party.

[MiamiNice1]

Any which way it is turned and spun, it seems to me that Beck's rating numbers would be the envy of anyone in the field. They have to get awfully creative to discredit the Beck ratings.

Who cares what some pundits with their own agendas have to say. Beck is his own man and an equal opportunity questioner of any political party.
jmo
Exactly, Raptor. Trying to discredit Beck clearly shows their own agenda. The man is entertaining and informative and the ratings are the proof.

Some seem to think that because Beck is so vocal, or any other commentator for that matter, that the people automatically follow like robots. They are entirely missing the point that commentators are not only giving their opinions but are also laying out facts. IF their arguments and facts prove to be true, most logical people will agree.

Ratings envy and of course, the fact-filled discrediting revealed about this administration has the Left up in arms and ready to attack whoever is bearing the bad news. The ratings seem to be saying, "bring it on!"

imo

[MrsBeesley]

It was a well-written and thought out piece by a conservative.

I think that conservatives agree with him, as well. It must be disconcerting, to say the least, to have this man be confused with one's party.

Has Beck said who he'd like to see run in the next Presidential election?

[theal3]

Couric interviewed Beck for tomorrow.

Preview of interview: he says he would have voted for Hillary, and says McCain would have been worse then Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqCNOhiYNg

[MrsBeesley]

Couric interviewed Beck for tomorrow.

Preview of interview: he says he would have voted for Hillary, and says McCain would have been worse then Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHqCNOhiYNg

That's pretty weird imo. :scared:

[daniel green]

Beck’s opinion elicited a fierce and angry response from right-wing radio host Mark Levin yesterday. “To say [McCain] would be worse is mindless, mindless, incoherent as a matter of fact,” Levin said on his radio show. He then suggested Beck is playing politics: “I don’t know who people are playing to. I don’t know why they’re playing to certain people.”

Levin never mentions Beck by name (he refers to Beck as “the 5 pm’er” because Beck’s show airs at 5 pm on Fox News). He concluded with this final dig at Beck:

I think there’s enormous confusion and positioning and pandering. It may be entertaining, but from my perspective, it’s not. It’s pathetic.

Listen here:

http://thinkprogress.org/

[daniel green]

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough expressed disdain for Fox News’ Glenn Beck Tuesday. “You cannot preach hatred. You cannot say the president is racist. You cannot say things that have very deadly consequences. I was in Congress in 1995. I know where this can end,” said Scarborough.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=4049

[daniel green]

Beck is causing consternation for many right wingers these days. Peter Wehner, a former political adviser to President Bush, recently wrote that Beck is “harmful to the conservative movement” because he’s “erratic,” “bizarre,” and is too interested in “conspiracy theories.” And Rush Limbaugh recently suggested to Politico that Beck’s role in promoting the 9/12 protest was “cheap and disingenuous.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/22/mark-levin-v-glenn-beck/

[daniel green]

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/columnists/leonard-pitts/story/1246797.html

[justaguy]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

Monday, September 21, 2009

Beck - 720K
Blitzer (nearest contestor) - 168K


Peter who? MO IMO people cite ratings when they dont want to pause to actually have a discourse.

ratings? the media equivalent of who is the most popular in high school?

where are the most popular now? ratings judge quantity, not quality

[justaguy]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

9/21
Beck - 720k
Blitzer - 168K

9/22
Beck - 683K
HLN - 158K

9/23
Beck - 728K
Blitzer 224K

9/24
Beck 718K
Blitzer - 173K

thank you for making my point for me.

[Brentwood]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

9/21
Beck - 720k
Blitzer - 168K

9/22
Beck - 683K
HLN - 158K

9/23
Beck - 728K
Blitzer 224K

9/24
Beck 718K
Blitzer - 173K

This does not represent political support by the masses in the USA. There is a 20% or so uninformed that believe the carp and the rest watch for entertainment realizing the ignorance.

[justaguy]

now this is AS 230 pm central time.

i have checked my yard and my house thoroughly. no evidence (yet) of race riots...and no ACORN members attempting to hide out in my bunker. i DID see outside two people who appeared angry, but most of it seemed directed at a dog that was refusing to urinate (are they misdirecting their rage, will wait and observe).

i DID have a crying jag that i was most proud of, but unfortunately my videocamera was not working correctly, so am unable to broadcast it.

I saw on the interweb what i think is a photo of (for now) president Obama when he was in elementary school. IMO i could already see in his eyes his anger towards whites. tho he could have had hayfever ( am told kenya has high pollen count).

I am posting this as i believe the liberal media is interfering with my postal service, as i have not received ONE letter back from my leader, Mr. Beck.

pls convey this to him.

[Briar]

Everyone loves a freak show and Glenn Beck is Fox's prize freak. There once was a time that Ringling Brothers would have offered him job security.

[daniel green]

Sen. Lindsey Graham, (R-S.C.) offered unusually blunt assessments of the fringe elements of his party and conservative media on Thursday, calling the popular and bombastic Fox News host Glenn Beck a "cynic" whose show was antithetical to American values. "Only in America can you make that much money crying," Graham said of Beck. "Glenn Beck is not aligned with any party. He is aligned with cynicism and there has always been a market for cynics. But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers." Appearing before a crowd of Washington's elite power players and opinion-makers, Graham spoke largely without filter, offering acidic takes on subject well beyond Beck. The Senator called the birther community that questions the president's U.S. citizenship "crazy" and implored them to "knock this crap off" so the country could get on to more important matters. "I'm here to tell you that those who think the president was not born in Hawaii are crazy," said Graham, who went on to dispel another myth: that Obama is a closet Muslim.



Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/01/sen-graham-calls-beck-a-c_n_306434.html

[MiamiNice1]

Maddow & Olbermann ... do they even have numbers?
:lol:

I should tape Maddow and Olbermann for when I have trouble sleeping - Maddow put me to sleep in 3 minutes flat the other night. Booooring!!!

imo

[psbperu]

Briar:

Personally I truly dislike what Glenn Beck is about. I believe most viewers of his show know little of his past life on radio as a "shockjock".
Want to really assess the sum total of the man...go to salon magazine on line for an article in 3 parts detailing his life. It is not a critique....just an out & out history of where he has been & what he has done.

That his numbers are up as far as viewers go means little to me. What it does do is speak volumes about the average American who watches him. It truly is sad that he appeals to so many with the glib trash that he vocalizes. There are time when I wondered if he would just fall off the edge into a deep well of insanity.

There are some truly good radio & television programs out there that are discussing, in depth, the major issues facing Americans today. How many on this board listen to NPR or watch public television, how many have seen Frontline? How many read & I mean read both sides or many sides of an issue. Do it on the computer, read the newspapers, read on Politico (articles on right, left & in the middle).

Glenn Beck is making a fortune on the nonsense that he espouses.

[Briar]

Briar:

Personally I truly dislike what Glenn Beck is about. I believe most viewers of his show know little of his past life on radio as a "shockjock".
Want to really assess the sum total of the man...go to salon magazine on line for an article in 3 parts detailing his life. It is not a critique....just an out & out history of where he has been & what he has done.

That his numbers are up as far as viewers go means little to me. What it does do is speak volumes about the average American who watches him. It truly is sad that he appeals to so many with the glib trash that he vocalizes. There are time when I wondered if he would just fall off the edge into a deep well of insanity.

There are some truly good radio & television programs out there that are discussing, in depth, the major issues facing Americans today. How many on this board listen to NPR or watch public television, how many have seen Frontline? How many read & I mean read both sides or many sides of an issue. Do it on the computer, read the newspapers, read on Politico (articles on right, left & in the middle).

Glenn Beck is making a fortune on the nonsense that he espouses.

Thank you! ITA. I read on HuffPo what Lindsay Graham had to say about Glenn Beck and the "birthers". While I normally have little use for Lindsay Graham I liked what he said: "Only in America can you make that much money crying," Graham said of Beck. "Glenn Beck is not aligned with any party. He is aligned with cynicism and there has always been a market for cynics. But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers."

Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/01/sen-graham-calls-beck-a-c_n_306434.html)

[daniel green]

So the myth returns. Just months after the election and the humiliation, everyone is again convinced that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest possess real power. And the saddest thing is that even Republican politicians come to believe it. They mistake media for reality. They pre-emptively surrender to armies that don’t exist. They pay more attention to Rush’s imaginary millions than to the real voters down the street. The Republican Party is unpopular because it’s more interested in pleasing Rush’s ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer’s niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician’s coalition-building strategy. The rise of Beck, Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the rest has correlated almost perfectly with the decline of the G.O.P. But it’s not because the talk jocks have real power. It’s because they have illusory power, because Republicans hear the media mythology and fall for it every time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

From David Brooks, of all people.

[psbperu]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=2&em

From David Brooks, of all people.

Thanks Daniel Green: I came in to post the link to Brooks column entitled "The Wizard Beck". Voila! You beat me to it..lol.

Brooks stunned me today, he led up to this column with some of his observations prior to the election about the conservative lunatic fringe & how they don't represent the Republican Party.

I hope all the posters on the board who support these blowhards....sit down & read the column. Here is one of the paragraphs.

Quote:

"But this is not merely a story of weakness. It is a story of resilience. For no matter how often their hollowness is exposed, the jocks still reweave the myth of their own power. They still ride the airwaves claiming to speak for millions. They still confuse listeners with voters. And they are aided in this endeavor by their enablers. They are enabled by cynical Democrats, who love to claim that Rush Limbaugh controls the G.O.P. They are enabled by lazy pundits who find it easier to argue with showmen than with people whose opinions are based on knowledge. They are enabled by the slightly educated snobs who believe that Glenn Beck really is the voice of Middle America"

[Briar]

How many times did O'Reilly say that that abortion doctor needed to die, calling him a murderer. I don't care what Beck or any of them call themselves, they have the power and the forum to put thoughts in people's heads. Not the entire GOP, but one man felt justified to open fire in a Holocaust museum. Recently a young kidnapped victim was miraculously found alive only to turn our thoughts to the horror of 18 years imprisoned in the backyard of a man who talked to God through a little box. She bore him 2 children. For all we know that little box was a radio and God was Limbaugh or Beck. I understand sarcasm, humor and irony. These are troubled times right now. So many protests in so many directions. This isn't the time for sarcasm and crocodile tears.

Oh and Beck is Mormon. So am I. He's pimping his conversion story. He can be a clown all he wants but leave us out of it.

[juliekan]

So Beck uses Vicks for those fake tears? :sneaky:

How pathetic. This video just reinforces how sneaky and unbelievable this man really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g



Did anyone actually watch this video?

They put the Vicks under his eyes for a photo shoot. He teared up immediately. So if you are saying he puts the vicks under his eyes and then waits for a good "moment", you are wrong, imo.

I am getting really tired of posting links, which no one reads but has an opinion on, and then if I post without a link, I get jumped on. People read all the links, watch all the shows (not just left or right wing). Look for the truth instead of just spouting party lines. Please.

[Briar]

I think that Graham Lindsay covered the party line thing. The GOP doesn't claim him, the dems certainly don't. He also said at that photoshoot that he was getting immune to the Vicks. Unless he's doing a coffee table book of crying photos, I take that to mean he uses it to fake tears on tv.

[Briar]

Of course he gains from faking it. Why do a photoshoot (with someone whose work you have criticized) to display crocodile tears unless it is what sells you? The tears are what children use to get attention and he can turn them on like a spoiled little kid. He's disrespectful to everything he claims to hold dear. I have no problem with him or his show if it was on a channel that was for entertainment. He's not delivering news, it's a freak show. He should switch places with Jon Stewart who actually delivers news. But Glenn Beck isn't even funny.

All of this is MHO.

[Hey Paula]

:tongueside:

IMO - as someone who has listened for several years to Beck on the radio, saw him on CNN and see him on FOX, he has not changed that much. It is a matter of timing and place though.
He came to FOX at the same time Obama came to Wash. He is now also being "unleashed" to be more of himself than at CNN. Sadly, Obama has given him more cause of concern and he evolved in his understanding. He is now in the right place at the right time.
imo.

ITA, and getting to know BO has given me the same cause for concern. Much of what Beck says was already what I was thinking, so I cannot say he has influenced my thinking; only that he affirms many of my thoughts and opinions.

[jammies]

Anyone watching Beck today??????

[jammies]

Anita Dunn's political hero is MAO.

What more proof to those that don't WANT TO SEE NEED??

[juliekan]

Anyone watching Beck today??????

I saw it yesterday....I've gotten where I turn it on everyday, waiting for him to make a retraction on something he said the day before(as he said he would make a retraction in his opening segment if he gets anything wrong.) Looks like Anita and the White House can't make an argument that what he said was incorrect? When is the red phone going to ring? :laugh:

[Hey Paula]

I saw it yesterday....I've gotten where I turn it on everyday, waiting for him to make a retraction on something he said the day before(as he said he would make a retraction in his opening segment if he gets anything wrong.) Looks like Anita and the White House can't make an argument that what he said was incorrect? When is the red phone going to ring? :laugh:

That phone won't ring because Mao's admirer, Ms Dunne, cannot refute the truth, nor deny what she and other regime members, including BO himself, have said which was caught on tape for all the world to see and hear. Of course, there are still some fawners who deny what they see and hear with their own eyes and ears, along with the fringe media who has betrayed the public through inaccurate, incomplete and biased reporting.

IMO

[Hey Paula]

Okay, I'll bite. What happens after 6PM??

That's when tonight's Glenn Beck show ends to hopefully draw posters here?

Perhaps nothing will happen at 6PM tonight.

And, maybe some don't wish to share their opinions with some.

IMO

[Hey Paula]

Thanks Paula. :wub:

You're welcome, my friend! :wub:

[juliekan]

When's the red phone going to ring ?

[syringa]

When's the red phone going to ring ?

When Glenn says something that is wrong and needs correcting. :smile:

[MercedesV]

When Glenn says something that is wrong and needs correcting. :smile:

Happened awhile back and continues to happen on a regular basis.

[juliekan]

Happened awhile back and continues to happen on a regular basis.

Do you have specifics? Seems like Beck made a retraction one day on 2 things, but they seemed to me so minor, that I don't even remember what they were. Do you remember? TIA

[theal3]

So anyone have an opinion about Beck's statements about network neutrality?

Are those that follow Beck in agreement with it's about giving free internet to everyone?

Or was he spinning and misleading people as to what network neutrality really is?

I mean I see the argument against it, but not the free internet for everyone as he implied it.

Unless he is against free speech and delivery of that speech over the internet.

Beck IMHO looks for an old issue: like network neutrality which was in the news like a year and a half ago, and gone through Congress, but not over, and looks for quotes etc: that he knows his viewers no nothing about and then presents it as a "hot topic" secret conspiracy. His latest crying jags about the founding father is like nuts? It's stuff I learned in HS and college, and he tells viewers how he's been researching and reading about he founding fathers from nearly 200 years ago. Why didn't this guy pay attention in High School, he might have been able to graduate from college. I bet he was the classroom joker then, as he's trying to be now. But he's talking to the under educated. I read his bio: he does/did as a child have ADD, and admits he is an alcholic, said it today on his show, and always says he knows the danger of addiction etc and how he found Jesus.....or the lord etc, was raised Catholic and now Mormon....it's obvious he worships the $$ like P.T Barnum, sucker born every minute. IMHO.

His tirade today, was beyond sick. He reminds me of the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and their schictk.....back in the 80s. Modern Day tent preachers, preying in the weak, while using prayer for $$s.

[syringa]

Beck IMHO looks for an old issue: like network neutrality which was in the news like a year and a half ago, and gone through Congress, but not over, and looks for quotes etc: that he knows his viewers no nothing about and then presents it as a "hot topic" secret conspiracy. His latest crying jags about the founding father is like nuts? It's stuff I learned in HS and college, and he tells viewers how he's been researching and reading about he founding fathers from nearly 200 years ago. Why didn't this guy pay attention in High School, he might have been able to graduate from college. I bet he was the classroom joker then, as he's trying to be now. But he's talking to the under educated. I read his bio: he does/did as a child have ADD, and admits he is an alcholic, said it today on his show, and always says he knows the danger of addiction etc and how he found Jesus.....or the lord etc, was raised Catholic and now Mormon....it's obvious he worships the $$ like P.T Barnum, sucker born every minute. IMHO.

His tirade today, was beyond sick. He reminds me of the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and their schictk.....back in the 80s. Modern Day tent preachers, preying in the weak, while using prayer for $$s.

Net neutrality isn't just "old news" as you put it. It has been in the news THIS week.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/22/fcc-approves-proposed-net-neutrality-rules/

He didn't finish college, but not because he wasn't smart.
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/champions/p/Beck_Bio.htm

During his battle with substance abuse, Beck had been accepted to Yale as a theology major thanks, in part, to a recommendation from Sen. Joe Lieberman. Beck lasted just one semester, however, distracted by the needs of his daughter, the ongoing divorce proceedings and his ever-depleting finances. After he left Yale, his family helped him get sober by acquainting him with Alcoholics Anonymous. Soon, his life began to turn around. He met his future second wife, Tania, and, as a prerequisite for marriage, he joined the Church of Latter Day Saints.

[juliekan]

Beck IMHO looks for an old issue: like network neutrality which was in the news like a year and a half ago, and gone through Congress, but not over, and looks for quotes etc: that he knows his viewers no nothing about and then presents it as a "hot topic" secret conspiracy. His latest crying jags about the founding father is like nuts? It's stuff I learned in HS and college, and he tells viewers how he's been researching and reading about he founding fathers from nearly 200 years ago. Why didn't this guy pay attention in High School, he might have been able to graduate from college. I bet he was the classroom joker then, as he's trying to be now. But he's talking to the under educated. I read his bio: he does/did as a child have ADD, and admits he is an alcholic, said it today on his show, and always says he knows the danger of addiction etc and how he found Jesus.....or the lord etc, was raised Catholic and now Mormon....it's obvious he worships the $$ like P.T Barnum, sucker born every minute. IMHO.

His tirade today, was beyond sick. He reminds me of the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker and their schictk.....back in the 80s. Modern Day tent preachers, preying in the weak, while using prayer for $$s.

theal! way over the top! you are offending all of us that have children that have ADD. i know, it's a shame, my poor son with ADD finished HS in the top 2% of his class and was accepted to a top 10 US school of business. Just had ESPN call him for an interview for an internship after his 2nd year of college. Poor boy!

And my poor DD, with her ADD, has a 3.5 average in high school and put in 350 hours of volunteer time this summer. Now going to school and working every day. Poor child!

[juliekan]

I'm not sure if you received any benefits because your kids were diagnosed with ADD......I'm not sure if Glenn Beck received benefits from ADD......I do know my cousin's son was diagnosed with it, and receives monthly benefits......plus another cousin's daughter was diagnosed and gets monthly benefits.

Some of the crazy stuff is that while taking a test the teacher reads the questions to them, and I think in one instance wrote the answers for the students because they couldn't focus on writing or something like that.

In Tennessee my aunt who worked for the school district said that almost every kids was diagnosed with ADD and ADHD. Reason being is they would get a monthly check, and then sold the Ritalin on the street because their kids didn't need it.

I think ADD is over diagnosed...it's just my personal opinion.

I wonder how many less cases there would be if we decided that ADD/ADHD children shouldn't be able to get their drivers' licenses since they supposed lack the ability to focus on a task. Seems to me that they are a danger to the public behind the wheel of a car.

The ironic thing is those two cousins that I mentioned above are receiving benefits and are Republicans and against public handouts....apparently only when it's someone else getting the handouts.

Benefits?? You've got to be kidding me....not a dime. Except what WE paid out for specialists to help our kids. The lady we had help us charged $75/hr (and yes I did get a break, when her rates went up she did not increase ours.) Finally gave up on the behaviour modification when they were older(and i'm talking jr. high) and went to a doctor for the meds($125/visit for each kid and no insurance did not pay for it. We are required to make 4 visits per year. One of kids was having a hard time in school, the other was failing. They never got any preferential treatment from the teachers at school. As I posted earlier, both are now doing great. Neither are allowed to drive unless they have taken their meds at least 30 minutes prior to driving.

According to the doctor that prescribed the meds for them, the rate of accidents for ADD OR ADHD is

200% higher for kids diagnosed with it, than those who are not on medication.

So you are correct on that point. One of my kids decided when they were 17 yo, that they did not want to take the meds. We said ok, long as you don't drive. They tried it, and tried to take a test at school, where they read the passage on the English class test 6 times and could not understand it. They changed their minds on the necessity of the meds after that.

[juliekan]

wow did i mess that statistic up

i said

200% higher for kids diagnosed with it, than those who are not on medication.

I meant

200% higher for kids diagnosed with it, than those who are diagnosed with it and ON MEDICATION.

[juliekan]

Did anyone watch oberman this last week? Friday he was okay, but the other nights he was easily as crazy as Beck. I used to watch him all the time, but over time he just has gotten crazier to me. JMO. I hope he puts himself out there as an "opinion" person also, because Wed. and Thurs. night he was just as "opinionated" as Beck.

[juliekan]

That was an error on my part. Let me be clear:

We nor the children have ever received one d*** dime of money.

[juliekan]

Thank you for clarifying......you understand how the "except" seemed a bit odd in the answer.

Hope you know I was just asking and not attacking.

No problem. I simply worded it wrong. We just take care of our own problems and don't think it's the government's job to take care of them :shrug:

[Hey Paula]

Beck: Is Free Speech Being Muzzled in America?

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=11106860&referralPlaylistId=f909db77f0ad31bbfd35cb7e6a04f50 204809c04

[Hey Paula]

FCC Approves Proposed Net Neutrality Rules

EXCERPT:

But critics charge that the plan is another power grab by the government.

"These new rules should rightly be viewed by consumers suspiciously as another government power grab over a private service provided by private companies in a competitive marketplace," Sen. John McCain wrote in an opinion article published by The Washington Times.

"Does this sound familiar? It should," McCain said, comparing the proposal to the federal bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.

McCain argued that a government takeover of the Internet will "stifle innovation" and "hinder job creation," noting that the technology industry is the fastest-growing job market behind health care.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/22/fcc-approves-proposed-net-neutrality-rules/?test=latestnews

[Hey Paula]

There is no comparison between the bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.......

this has nothing to do with throwing money at anyone.....FCC already in 2005 claimed to have authority to regulate such communication.....yes 2005. Seems again to use false analogy to tie into network neutrality to scare people, or give them the wrong impression.

But regardless IMO it does the opposite by increasing innovation, like VoIP since someone can come up with and know that it will work all over the internet.....instead of a ISP that has it's own VoIP and decides to block or downgrade a competitor's VoIP client by filter source packets......net neutrality by allowing innovation will also create jobs....

I'll leave you with a fun clip from Jon Stewart.

Jon Stewart on McCain's Anti-Net-Neutrality Bill (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-26-2009/from-here-to-neutrality)

It's the continuous overreaching of this regime to exercise government control over every aspect of our lives, and over the free markets, which concerns and alarms those of us who reject these power grabs.

[Hey Paula]

Again 2005 under the last regime was when the FCC first took steps to take over and control the internet.

I didn't hear objections then......but I'm for network neutrality.....because for me free speech, and individual freedom trumps corporations as the Founding Fathers intended.

And this is not unlike a telephone company not carrying phone calls for a competitor......when you are allowed to make phone calls, and the quality of the phone call at the option of an ISP.

Let's simply agree to disagree because we obviously have different views re this regime, which appears to me to resemble a thugocracy in its attempts to stifle free speech and to marginalize and create class wars against those who disagree with its policies.

The Founding Fathers didn't advocate government control. In fact, the Republic was borne out of rebellion to government control.

For me, it's primarily a matter of trust, and BO hasn't instilled any in me. By his own words he has outlined his agenda and ultimate goal to "fundamentally transform America" and to establish economic and social justice. He is anti-capitalism. He stands for everything which is anti-America.

IMO

[birdwatch]

Let's simply agree to disagree because we obviously have different views re this regime, which appears to me to resemble a thugocracy in its attempts to stifle free speech and to marginalize and create class wars against those who disagree with its policies.

The Founding Fathers didn't advocate government control. In fact, the Republic was borne out of rebellion to government control.

For me, it's primarily a matter of trust, and BO hasn't instilled any in me. By his own words he has outlined his agenda and ultimate goal to "fundamentally transform America" and to establish economic and social justice. He is anti-capitalism. He stands for everything which is anti-America.

IMO SO its mainly this regime that bothers you? It will be OK in the future for the FCC to pick up efforts for control, started during the Bush regime, if the GOP is back in power and contol?

[momof6]

theal! way over the top! you are offending all of us that have children that have ADD. i know, it's a shame, my poor son with ADD finished HS in the top 2% of his class and was accepted to a top 10 US school of business. Just had ESPN call him for an interview for an internship after his 2nd year of college. Poor boy!

And my poor DD, with her ADD, has a 3.5 average in high school and put in 350 hours of volunteer time this summer. Now going to school and working every day. Poor child!

If I remember right, Theal was a school teacher.

I also think her post was offensive on various levels.

[momof6]

I am going to make this short and sweet..The only reason people even watch Glenn Beck is because he is a train wreck..you know the need for people to laugh, oogle or just snicker...Glen Beck is a nutbar who loves his exposure..unfortunately..its only because he is a clown who everybody wants to laugh at..has nothing to do with his rationale..He is so off the wall..I think he basks in the limelight for all the wrong reasons....course this is just my opinon..but given things I have read and polls I have seen..GB along with Rush are not making any dint in Common Sense..Most know of what they speak..and for me it is non-sense and only attention seeking..sensationalism at its best...Course Fox has already gone to court to claim they are not a "News Station"..so take it only as Entertainment..and most do just that!!

LMS:laugh:

You said your post was just your opinion and I'd have to say I understand why.

[birdwatch]

Is he sick? I looked on his site - said he wasn't feeling so well and Pat Gray continued the radio show. Hope he does't have H1N1 - giving him one more thing to blame on President Obama.

[syringa]

I looked on his site - said he wasn't feeling so well and Pat Gray continued the radio show. Hope he does't have H1N1 - giving him one more thing to blame on President Obama.

Judge Andrew Napolitano is hosting the TV program. He introduced the show saying Glenn had appendicitis. I wish him a speedy recovery.

[ninetoes]

"For Thrillers, Glenn Beck Is Becoming New Oprah "

"Virtually every novelist in America fantasizes about being picked to appear on Oprah Winfrey’s talk show. But now an increasing number of writers have discovered a new champion: Glenn Beck, the outspoken media darling of populist conservatism."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/books/05beck.html

[ninetoes]

"(New York, NY) -- Radio and TV commentator Glenn Beck is recovering after being stricken by appendicitis while he was on the air."

http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=113262

[Justice4all]

Get well soon Glenn

[ninetoes]

I hope he has a better experience this time than when he had his hemorrhoid surgery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dsqLDtfWQ

Wow. Pretty harsh comments on that site, IMO. Wishing for anyone to die isnt acceptable, in my view. But then, I dont hate just for the sake of hating.

[ninetoes]

Very harsh comments on there. I think Beck brings out the worst in some people.

He may. But then those making the comments are just as bad as he is, since they accuse him of spreading hate and all that. Guess thats why I stay away from that kind of stuff. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion, but to actually wish death on another...thats beyond free speech, IMO.

[lunchlady]

As I stated above I hope Beck gets well soon......

but I had to share this Jon Stewart Comedy Central parody.

The 11/3 Project (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-5-2009/the-11-3-project)

Funny- thanx for the link.

I watch a few minutes of Beck now and then and I even bought both of his books at Costco, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The books are amusing even though the concepts are crap IMO.
I can't stand to watch him for more than 10 minutes though. I think he's really wrongheaded and corny. He's another one of the current crop of celebrities that make me think that Americans don't like to really think about anything, they just want to be entertained.

[syringa]

Funny- thanx for the link.

I watch a few minutes of Beck now and then and I even bought both of his books at Costco, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The books are amusing even though the concepts are crap IMO.
I can't stand to watch him for more than 10 minutes though. I think he's really wrongheaded and corny. He's another one of the current crop of celebrities that make me think that Americans don't like to really think about anything, they just want to be entertained.

Are you not American? What an insult to the American people to think that we don't "like to really think about anything" and just want to be entertained.

While I may agree or disagree with my fellow Americans, I certainly won't lump them all together thinking I am the only smart one in the room.

[lunchlady]

Are you not American? What an insult to the American people to think that we don't "like to really think about anything" and just want to be entertained.

While I may agree or disagree with my fellow Americans, I certainly won't lump them all together thinking I am the only smart one in the room.

Sure, I'm an American. But the ability to analyze and critique doesn't seem to have improved much in spite of all our access to education and information. It seems likes its gone the other way. Plenty of smart educated people, some of them sweeping floors or whatever, but too many of them are watching reality shows and depending on received "wisdom" IMO.

[theal3]

Beck loses friends:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=1480

Falling Out Of The Crazy Tree: Glenn Beck Loses Friends
Exacerbating this problem, Beck is losing support from many of the folks he would ordinarily rely upon. For instance, Charles Johnson, the proprietor of the right-wing web site Little Green Footballs, just enumerated the reasons that he is parting ways with the right. Two of his top ten reasons explicitly cite Beck due to his support for anti-government lunacy, conspiracy theories, and hate speech. When you’ve lost LGF, you might really want to commence some serious self-examination.

[birdwatch]

Beck loses friends:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=1480

Falling Out Of The Crazy Tree: Glenn Beck Loses FriendsI'm surprised that I have seen any major backlash from the many rabid Palin fans after his stupid "I'm not in the kitchen" comment. (I still think its a hoot"). Have I just missed the news on that?

[syringa]

Beck loses friends:

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=1480

Falling Out Of The Crazy Tree: Glenn Beck Loses Friends

Here is the opinion piece in LGF -

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right

I must admit I have never heard of this blog, but I'm sure it's readership is miniscule compared to the popularity of Beck and the other people mentioned in it.

Beck has had several best selling books, a highly rated radio program and numbers to make anyone in his business envious on TV. The people are speaking with their support of Beck in all these venues. Perhaps the blogger is the "odd man out" and out of touch with what the people like and believe.

[Silk]

Here is the opinion piece in LGF -

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35243_Why_I_Parted_Ways_With_The_Right

I must admit I have never heard of this blog, but I'm sure it's readership is miniscule compared to the popularity of Beck and the other people mentioned in it.

Beck has had several best selling books, a highly rated radio program and numbers to make anyone in his business envious on TV. The people are speaking with their support of Beck in all these venues. Perhaps the blogger is the "odd man out" and out of touch with what the people like and believe.

I don't agree. I use to watch Glen Beck a lot. I thought he was really bright and knew thing factual.
I stopped watching him about a year ago. He became delusional often and he became combative. He has been talking a lot of political stuff that's way off the chart. At first I thought he was joking because he did that a lot. He is not joking.
You say, people "out of touch" Glen Beck is very out of touch with reality. He has a serious character flaw about him now.
"out of touch" what the people like and believe.
Perhaps you meant to say like "OR" believe.

[MercedesV]

Less than 10 percent of Obama's Cabinet appointees "have any experience in the private sector."

Glenn Beck on Monday, November 30th, 2009 in a statement on his show on Fox News Channel

We did a little digging and found that the claim is based on a study by Michael Cembalest, the chief investment officer for J.P. Morgan Private Bank. In a Nov. 24, 2009, column titled "Obama's Business Blind Spot" and published on Forbes.com, Cembalest wrote, "In a quest to see what frame of reference the administration might have on this issue, I looked back at the history of the presidential Cabinet. Starting with the creation of the secretary of commerce back in 1900, I compiled the prior private-sector experience of all 432 Cabinet members, focusing on those positions one would expect to participate in this discussion: secretaries of State; Commerce; Treasury; Agriculture; Interior; Labor; Transportation; Energy; and Housing & Urban Development."

Cembalest said he has "written 250,000 words in research over the last decade, and every single thing I've ever done — except this one chart — was empirically based on data from the Federal Reserve" or another official source. "This is the one time I stepped out into making judgment calls, and I assure you I won't do it again. ... The frightening thing about the Internet is that people copy one chart from what you write and then it goes viral. So I've learned a lesson here that these kinds of issues are best left addressed by the people who practice them day in and day out."

Which brings us back to how Beck used Cembalest's data. We'll acknowledge that rating someone's degree of private-sector experience is an inexact science, and it's true that Beck accurately relayed the information contained in Cembalest's chart. But at PolitiFact we hold people accountable for their own words. So we rate Beck's claim False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/02/glenn-beck/beck-says-less-10-percent-obama-cabinet-members-ha/

[birdwatch]

Beck made a false claim? :scared:
Who would have that would ever happen? He fans must be devastated! Or not - truth is not a big part of his opinions, is it? Its an entertainment show.