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Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 06:52 AM
Mornin' All,

September already! Where has the year gone?

Lots of interesting ideas and theories over the last few days. No new news yet this morning but hopefully we'll hear some soon.

n/t
09-01-2009, 07:23 AM
Good Morning,

Happy September! Winter is around the corner:scared:

I was reading over last night's posts and needed clarification.

Although we keep discussing a bluetooth, there is no evidence that she had one, correct? We only know that her cellphone was found. I would assume if she had a bluetooth, that would've been disposed of along with her cellphone.

Also, there is one other thing that keeps nagging at me. If DD walked with Kristi the week before (the same area according to him), why didn't Kristi introduce him to her parents? I'm assuming it would be the same time she walked alone ~9'ish? Does DD own a vehicle? If so, what make is it? Someone posted about a rental car in Atlanta but we don't know if that's just a rumour or not but if he did rent a car, what make was it?

I guess I'm still lost without some sort of timeline especially when it comes to DD's whereabouts. Along with others, I still don't know what to make of him. His statements are so inconsistent and perhaps he likes to embellish but this is a serious case and we don't need flowering. Just the facts. Thank you very much!!!

RainyNiteNTx
09-01-2009, 07:31 AM
Morning guys....

Do we know if DD literally physically walked with Kristi or was DD talking about "walking" with her as they talked on the cell phone? If he physically walked with her on that road, then where did they meet up in order to walk together....since she did not introduce him to her parents, I'm assuming they did not start their walk from her parents home. None of it makes sense.

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 07:40 AM
The bluetooth is just rumour/speculation right now. There has been no confirmation so far of what was found at the believed abduction site.

As for Davis walking with Kristi the weekend before, who knows what he meant by that. I'm with everyone else on this... if he was with her physically walking, why didn't she introduce him to her parents at the time? If their relationship was as serious as Davis claims, you'd think she'd want her family to meet him and get to know him.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:47 AM
Good Morning to of you fellow posters!! For those who must spend today doing mundane(job) things BE SAFE and BE WISE!

As for DD, there are so many issues pertaining to him and his. It's like having what I refer to as a Bill Clinton conversation and all his semantics. As for whether he actually walked with Kristi, which in my mind believes he was physically there, why for the love of GOD has he used excuses for not calling 911 b/c he didn't know the local street names and such. Heck, at least he could have provided a description of the area. Since he had been with Kristi and possible received mail from that address he would at least have known the family address.

His lack of character is potentially hurting the respect and value of other Clergy's.

Just My Disappointing Opinion

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:50 AM
The bluetooth is just rumour/speculation right now. There has been no confirmation so far of what was found at the believed abduction site.

As for Davis walking with Kristi the weekend before, who knows what he meant by that. I'm with everyone else on this... if he was with her physically walking, why didn't she introduce him to her parents at the time? If their relationship was as serious as Davis claims, you'd think she'd want her family to meet him and get to know him.

But if she was using a bluetooth it would explain why the phone continued to transmit for 5 more minutes. Wait a minute how could a phone record for another 5 minutes? Phones don't record unless Kristi hit that button when she realized what was taking place.

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 08:17 AM
But if she was using a bluetooth it would explain why the phone continued to transmit for 5 more minutes. Wait a minute how could a phone record for another 5 minutes? Phones don't record unless Kristi hit that button when she realized what was taking place.

We don't know yet if that 5 minutes is accurate. The phone would have remained on/transmitting until turned off so if the struggle did last that long it could have been on the whole time.

How the call ended is what I wonder. Accidently during the struggle? Purposely by Kristi and if so why? Purposely by her attacker(s) and if so why wasn't it left at the abduction site? OR did Davis disconnect on his end?

openminded
09-01-2009, 08:42 AM
The bluetooth is just rumour/speculation right now. There has been no confirmation so far of what was found at the believed abduction site.

As for Davis walking with Kristi the weekend before, who knows what he meant by that. I'm with everyone else on this... if he was with her physically walking, why didn't she introduce him to her parents at the time? If their relationship was as serious as Davis claims, you'd think she'd want her family to meet him and get to know him.

If it's true that her 3rd marriage only lasted a couple of months and ended this past March, perhaps she didn't think her parents would approve of another serious relationship so soon (assuming that it really was serious, which remains to be seen)?

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 08:59 AM
If it's true that her 3rd marriage only lasted a couple of months and ended this past March, perhaps she didn't think her parents would approve of another serious relationship so soon (assuming that it really was serious, which remains to be seen)?

That's a good point and could be the reason nobody had met Davis yet.

Davis said they met online and had known each other a total of 6 weeks. No mention of how many times they had met in person. I guess at the moment that I'm leaning towards things not being as serious as he has claimed.

Sometimes when people meet online they really hit it off but when they meet in person that same spark isn't there. For example, sometimes one or both weren't honest about themselves or the reality simply doesn't live up to the fantasy.

Its possible Kristi had changed her mind about him or wasn't at the point yet where she felt like the relationship was serious or may become serious and that's why she hadn't introduced him to her family or friends.

Speak Out
09-01-2009, 09:32 AM
Just an FYI - Reading through the posts from last night about the Topix site. I, personally, wouldn't give credibility at all to things posted there. There is no registration or email required to post. People just type in whatever name they choose and say whatever they want. It's gossip, hear-say, pranksters posting crazy info, and people bickering back and forth - sometimes with themselves posing as 2 different people. It won't take long as you read through to see that it's not a reliable source.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 10:05 AM
Good Morning,

Happy September! Winter is around the corner:scared:

I was reading over last night's posts and needed clarification.

Although we keep discussing a bluetooth, there is no evidence that she had one, correct? We only know that her cellphone was found. I would assume if she had a bluetooth, that would've been disposed of along with her cellphone.

Also, there is one other thing that keeps nagging at me. If DD walked with Kristi the week before (the same area according to him), why didn't Kristi introduce him to her parents? I'm assuming it would be the same time she walked alone ~9'ish? Does DD own a vehicle? If so, what make is it? Someone posted about a rental car in Atlanta but we don't know if that's just a rumour or not but if he did rent a car, what make was it?

I guess I'm still lost without some sort of timeline especially when it comes to DD's whereabouts. Along with others, I still don't know what to make of him. His statements are so inconsistent and perhaps he likes to embellish but this is a serious case and we don't need flowering. Just the facts. Thank you very much!!!

The same thing nags at me about them walking together..There was a reprot i read that said he has just walked with her 2 days before...so if that is true that would have been Sun???

I wish LE would release things like...phone records...computer records...it would be easy to see by the phone records just how much they talked...and from the computer records we could see if Kristi was really into him like he claims...wish all states had the same laws as FL about releasing records..

just42day97
09-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Just an FYI - Reading through the posts from last night about the Topix site. I, personally, wouldn't give credibility at all to things posted there. There is no registration or email required to post. People just type in whatever name they choose and say whatever they want. It's gossip, hear-say, pranksters posting crazy info, and people bickering back and forth - sometimes with themselves posing as 2 different people. It won't take long as you read through to see that it's not a reliable source.

it is some crazy stuff happening there!

mitzi
09-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Just an FYI - Reading through the posts from last night about the Topix site. I, personally, wouldn't give credibility at all to things posted there. There is no registration or email required to post. People just type in whatever name they choose and say whatever they want. It's gossip, hear-say, pranksters posting crazy info, and people bickering back and forth - sometimes with themselves posing as 2 different people. It won't take long as you read through to see that it's not a reliable source.

Topix is notorious for that type of posting. I may find something that is interesting, or that jives with what I have picked up elsewhere.....other than that, I take it with a grain of salt.

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 10:37 AM
On other forums people are claiming LE has listened to Kristi and DD's phone conversation. While that's pure speculation and possibly based on DD's comments that LE knows exactly what happened during the abduction, it makes me wonder if something like that is even possible if neither party recorded the discussion. Do cell phone towers have the capability of recording telephone calls?

Someone mentioned some phones are equipped with an auto record feature. How would DD have been in the state of mind to even think of activating it? Wouldn't he have have been frantically calling 911 and Kristi's mother?

NoelsMommy
09-01-2009, 10:43 AM
That's a good point and could be the reason nobody had met Davis yet.

Davis said they met online and had known each other a total of 6 weeks. No mention of how many times they had met in person. I guess at the moment that I'm leaning towards things not being as serious as he has claimed.

Sometimes when people meet online they really hit it off but when they meet in person that same spark isn't there. For example, sometimes one or both weren't honest about themselves or the reality simply doesn't live up to the fantasy.

Its possible Kristi had changed her mind about him or wasn't at the point yet where she felt like the relationship was serious or may become serious and that's why she hadn't introduced him to her family or friends.

I'm with you in leaning on things not being as serious as DD has claimed. 6 weeks is not very long to be in a relationship but it's a long time to keep it quiet from your best friends & family. Kristi had a best friend who was on one of the morning shows back when the abduction first happened. I don't recall her name but I do recall that she was her best friend. If I didn't tell anyone else, I'd tell my best friend if I were in even a casual relationship.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 10:49 AM
On other forums people are claiming LE has listened to Kristi and DD's phone conversation. While that's pure speculation and possibly based on DD's comments that LE knows exactly what happened during the abduction, it makes me wonder if something like that is even possible if neither party recorded the discussion. Do cell phone towers have the capability of recording telephone calls?

Someone mentioned some phones are equipped with an auto record feature. How would DD have been in the state of mind to even think of activating it? Wouldn't he have have been frantically calling 911 and Kristi's mother?

I am soooo not into all that tech stuff..so I don't have a clue on how to use it if it was even available..
I asked gagirl if her Dad heard any other voices in the background..I never got an answer from her...
And yes I would think he would be calling 911...

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 10:52 AM
On other forums people are claiming LE has listened to Kristi and DD's phone conversation. While that's pure speculation and possibly based on DD's comments that LE knows exactly what happened during the abduction, it makes me wonder if something like that is even possible if neither party recorded the discussion. Do cell phone towers have the capability of recording telephone calls?

Someone mentioned some phones are equipped with an auto record feature. How would DD have been in the state of mind to even think of activating it? Wouldn't he have have been frantically calling 911 and Kristi's mother?

I'd seen that too. Seems like if Davis had started recording the call that would have come out in the begining. If Kristi had we probably wouldn't have heard about it because the only thing we really know about her phone is that it was found.

I'd be surprised if the call was recorded in some other way unless there was a wiretap in place on her phone or Davis'. Its an invasion of privacy for starters and if it did happen where would these recordings go and what kind of system could handle recording and storing what I imagine is a huge number of cell calls at any given moment?

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm with you in leaning on things not being as serious as DD has claimed. 6 weeks is not very long to be in a relationship but it's a long time to keep it quiet from your best friends & family. Kristi had a best friend who was on one of the morning shows back when the abduction first happened. I don't recall her name but I do recall that she was her best friend. If I didn't tell anyone else, I'd tell my best friend if I were in even a casual relationship.

(bold by me)

Me too, especially if it were a relationship I was excited about and felt had real promise for the future. I'd want to share that with someone close, a family member or BF. Somebody who'd be excited for me and who I could tell all the things I liked about the new love interest.

ttcRider
09-01-2009, 11:04 AM
Good Morning,

Happy September! Winter is around the corner:scared:

I was reading over last night's posts and needed clarification.

Although we keep discussing a bluetooth, there is no evidence that she had one, correct? We only know that her cellphone was found. I would assume if she had a bluetooth, that would've been disposed of along with her cellphone.

Also, there is one other thing that keeps nagging at me. If DD walked with Kristi the week before (the same area according to him), why didn't Kristi introduce him to her parents? I'm assuming it would be the same time she walked alone ~9'ish? Does DD own a vehicle? If so, what make is it? Someone posted about a rental car in Atlanta but we don't know if that's just a rumour or not but if he did rent a car, what make was it?

I guess I'm still lost without some sort of timeline especially when it comes to DD's whereabouts. Along with others, I still don't know what to make of him. His statements are so inconsistent and perhaps he likes to embellish but this is a serious case and we don't need flowering. Just the facts. Thank you very much!!!

Also, if he did meet her for a walk where did he park the car?? At her parents?

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:06 AM
(bold by me)

Me too, especially if it were a relationship I was excited about and felt had real promise for the future. I'd want to share that with someone close, a family member or BF. Somebody who'd be excited for me and who I could tell all the things I liked about the new love interest.

Yes I agree...also I posted the other day about I was surprised that Kristi's parents were not aware...or hadn't met him yet...b/c here in the south...If a woman has a b/f who Appears to be a fine upstanding Christan man, has a ministry, and a fairly nice looking man then the parents are normally pretty happy about that...

I have a question....I've not heard if DD works anywhere....I don't think his singing pays his bills...so I wonder what he does...???

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Also, if he did meet her for a walk where did he park the car?? At her parents?

I've thought about that too....Did he drive all the way to blairsville to go on a walk with her?? thats a long drive for just a walk with someone...wonder if they had other plans while he was there?

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Also, if he did meet her for a walk where did he park the car?? At her parents?

Good question. I think I read there's a church not far from her home. Maybe he parked there and she walked there to meet him?

I haven't seen anybody mention anywhere that they'd seen Kristi out walking with someone recently.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Good question. I think I read there's a church not far from her home. Maybe he parked there and she walked there to meet him?

I haven't seen anybody mention anywhere that they'd seen Kristi out walking with someone recently.


Yes I read that it was her church that was close to her home...and IIRC someone was at the church the night she went missing and saw her walking

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Yes I agree...also I posted the other day about I was surprised that Kristi's parents were not aware...or hadn't met him yet...b/c here in the south...If a woman has a b/f who Appears to be a fine upstanding Christan man, has a ministry, and a fairly nice looking man then the parents are normally pretty happy about that...

I have a question....I've not heard if DD works anywhere....I don't think his singing pays his bills...so I wonder what he does...???

I've wondered too what Davis does for a living. Do churches pay to have visiting ministers? I listened to the song on his website and I can't imagine they are making a lot of money with paid performances or selling CD's.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:16 AM
I've wondered too what Davis does for a living. Do churches pay to have visiting ministers? I listened to the song on his website and I can't imagine they are making a lot of money with paid performances or selling CD's.

I think some Churches do pay..but it's hard to believe that all 3 of them are making a living from that..I know some ppl who do about the same thing as DD and his trio...and it's just kinda a side thing for them...something they enjoy doing...and they don't make much money from it...

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:25 AM
I think some Churches do pay..but it's hard to believe that all 3 of them are making a living from that..I know some ppl who do about the same thing as DD and his trio...and it's just kinda a side thing for them...something they enjoy doing...and they don't make much money from it...

Which brings us back to your question... what does he do to support himself?

I didn't see anything on his website that gives any indication of what he might do when he's not preaching or singing.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:31 AM
Which brings us back to your question... what does he do to support himself?

I didn't see anything on his website that gives any indication of what he might do when he's not preaching or singing.


and per their website..the only gig they have coming up is on Sept 13th at a church in barnsville Ga.

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:43 AM
and per their website..the only gig they have coming up is on Sept 13th at a church in barnsville Ga.

And possibly a yet to be scheduled benefit concert for Kristi. Pretty sure something along those lines has been mentioned.

Not sure Kristi's family will go for that. From his interviews and theirs I'm not "feeling the love" between them.

momof6
09-01-2009, 11:43 AM
The bluetooth is just rumour/speculation right now. There has been no confirmation so far of what was found at the believed abduction site.

As for Davis walking with Kristi the weekend before, who knows what he meant by that. I'm with everyone else on this... if he was with her physically walking, why didn't she introduce him to her parents at the time? If their relationship was as serious as Davis claims, you'd think she'd want her family to meet him and get to know him.

I had a couple thoughts on why he was not introduced to family during their walk.

1. The parents may have been out of town.
2. If she was not divorced yet, it would not look good to have a boyfriend.
3. Maybe she wasn't quite prepared to let them know she met someone off the internet, because of her other relationships that didn't work out (ex's). She may have had to work up the courage to tell them about an internet relationship. Many people her parents age are not into that.
These are just some of the scenarios I had thought of.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:48 AM
And possibly a yet to be scheduled benefit concert for Kristi. Pretty sure something along those lines has been mentioned.

Not sure Kristi's family will go for that. From his interviews and theirs I'm not "feeling the love" between them.

I don't feel the love there either...
also was just looking at Kristi's website again..I notice they have it written like this:
LAST SEEN: Tuesday August 11th – 9:oo pm

Walking on Jones Creek Road, Blairsville, Georgia

no mention of her being on the phone with her boyfriend...they just said walking on jones creek road....

just42day97
09-01-2009, 11:50 AM
I had a couple thoughts on why he was not introduced to family during their walk.

1. The parents may have been out of town.
2. If she was not divorced yet, it would not look good to have a boyfriend.
3. Maybe she wasn't quite prepared to let them know she met someone off the internet, because of her other relationships that didn't work out (ex's). She may have had to work up the courage to tell them about an internet relationship. Many people her parents age are not into that.
These are just some of the scenarios I had thought of.


yes all 3 of those makes perfect sense..I think it would be # 2 or 3...or both 2&3

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 11:58 AM
I had a couple thoughts on why he was not introduced to family during their walk.

1. The parents may have been out of town.
2. If she was not divorced yet, it would not look good to have a boyfriend.
3. Maybe she wasn't quite prepared to let them know she met someone off the internet, because of her other relationships that didn't work out (ex's). She may have had to work up the courage to tell them about an internet relationship. Many people her parents age are not into that.
These are just some of the scenarios I had thought of.

All good possible reasons Kristi hadn't introduced Davis to her friends and family yet.

You did get me to thinking about how and where they met in person for the first time.

I met my husband online. We'd chatted on the internet and talked on the phone for... oh I dunno, must have been a year or close to it. Even though I was confident he was everything I thought he was, our first IRL meeting was hundreds of miles away from my home, in a different state and I didn't go alone. My mom went with me for protection. :D

mitzi
09-01-2009, 12:03 PM
Which brings us back to your question... what does he do to support himself?

I didn't see anything on his website that gives any indication of what he might do when he's not preaching or singing.

I've wondered that myself. I've searched, and I can't find any information about him, except for the Eliana website. In fact, I'm sort of surprised that as a pastor, minister etc, that there is no information about him. (Davis is not an unusual name, so maybe I'm just not using the right terms to narrow down my search) His bio says he's been a pastor since he was 19, so I just thought there would be more info on him out there.....

As far as some other type of job outside of music and clergy -

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=134180&catid=3

a comment by poster thinkingpositive:


"OMG, you people are SICK. I know Douglas. He has worked for me in my home several times. He is a genuinely nice, compassionate, caring, Christian man. He did not hurt his girlfriend. He is dying over this. Why are you all so quick to judge him? He's a man in pain. You don't know how you would react to this happening to you. I know if it happened to my husband (if I was abducted while he was on the phone to me) he was be devastated. Then he would do WHATEVER he could to find me. In case you aren't aware, in this day and age, the media is the best way to do that. Even though I have not talked to Douglas since this happened, a friend has. He is not pursuing media attention. He is not that kind of guy. This story is compelling and the media are pursuing him. He probably did the interview hoping somehow it would provide clues. Maybe the person who sold her the devotional saw or heard something? I can assure you, Douglas is not involved and I am saddened that most everyone on here immediately jumped to judge him. Just think: what if it were you or your girlfriend/significant other? Please. You all owe Douglas an apology."

Later, another poster, LittleDebbie responds:

"PositiveThinker, I am sure he had nothing to do with it. From what I understand they didn't even know each other but about 3 weeks, not long enough to even start to get close with someone especially when they live over two hours away. But I do know Douglas and he the most manipulative person I have ever encountered. Watch the NBC Today Show when he was on it, did you notice how he controlled the interview. He is very controlling. Very interesting creature. I'm sure he was nice if he was working in your house, you were probably paying him right? He is an authority on everything and everything he does is great just ask him."

bolded by me

So what is it DD does that he would be working in someone's home? Wish we could find out.

And then also interesting that Little Debbie says she knows him and he is manipulative, and is an expert on everything.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 12:10 PM
All good possible reasons Kristi hadn't introduced Davis to her friends and family yet.

You did get me to thinking about how and where they met in person for the first time.

I met my husband online. We'd chatted on the internet and talked on the phone for... oh I dunno, must have been a year or close to it. Even though I was confident he was everything I thought he was, our first IRL meeting was hundreds of miles away from my home, in a different state and I didn't go alone. My mom went with me for protection. :D


Good Thinking!!
Well I met my ex on line...we talked about 5 months before we met...I took my grown daughter and 2 other friends when I met him...and then 3 more of my friends joined us the next day...everyone thought this man hung the moon...I did too...until we got married...DD reminds me a lot of my ex...a whole lot!! I was married to him about a year..then I divorced him...he isn't the "God Bless you" Man that he appears to be..(he is called the God bless you man..cause he always says that to ppl)..

just42day97
09-01-2009, 12:12 PM
I've wondered that myself. I've searched, and I can't find any information about him, except for the Eliana website. In fact, I'm sort of surprised that as a pastor, minister etc, that there is no information about him. (Davis is not an unusual name, so maybe I'm just not using the right terms to narrow down my search) His bio says he's been a pastor since he was 19, so I just thought there would be more info on him out there.....

As far as some other type of job outside of music and clergy -

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=134180&catid=3

a comment by poster thinkingpositive:


"OMG, you people are SICK. I know Douglas. He has worked for me in my home several times. He is a genuinely nice, compassionate, caring, Christian man. He did not hurt his girlfriend. He is dying over this. Why are you all so quick to judge him? He's a man in pain. You don't know how you would react to this happening to you. I know if it happened to my husband (if I was abducted while he was on the phone to me) he was be devastated. Then he would do WHATEVER he could to find me. In case you aren't aware, in this day and age, the media is the best way to do that. Even though I have not talked to Douglas since this happened, a friend has. He is not pursuing media attention. He is not that kind of guy. This story is compelling and the media are pursuing him. He probably did the interview hoping somehow it would provide clues. Maybe the person who sold her the devotional saw or heard something? I can assure you, Douglas is not involved and I am saddened that most everyone on here immediately jumped to judge him. Just think: what if it were you or your girlfriend/significant other? Please. You all owe Douglas an apology."

Later, another poster, LittleDebbie responds:

"PositiveThinker, I am sure he had nothing to do with it. From what I understand they didn't even know each other but about 3 weeks, not long enough to even start to get close with someone especially when they live over two hours away. But I do know Douglas and he the most manipulative person I have ever encountered. Watch the NBC Today Show when he was on it, did you notice how he controlled the interview. He is very controlling. Very interesting creature. I'm sure he was nice if he was working in your house, you were probably paying him right? He is an authority on everything and everything he does is great just ask him."

bolded by me

So what is it DD does that he would be working in someone's home? Wish we could find out.

And then also interesting that Little Debbie says she knows him and he is manipulative, and is an expert on everything.



And what the 2nd poster stated about him might go to our thinking about Krisit kinda figured out what he was about, and left on her own??..JMO

mitzi
09-01-2009, 01:11 PM
And what the 2nd poster stated about him might go to our thinking about Krisit kinda figured out what he was about, and left on her own??..JMO

Might have. Wish we knew more about him. If that poster is correct in that DD is a manipulative person, then maybe this person was correct in what they said also:

Worriedinatlanta said:
I am so worried for Kristi, Douglas is a very FAKE, EVIL, man that I know on a personal level..
Praying for your return.

Posted 08/29/2009 at 05:48:33 PM

just42day97
09-01-2009, 01:48 PM
There are 2 questions we have talked about today that I wished we could find the answers to.

1. Does DD work anywhere? We have not heard how he makes his money. Not likely that his singing group brings in enough money to support him.

2. Did DD drive all the way to Blairsville just to take a walk with Kristi? He had stated in one interview that he was just in Blairsville a couple day before she went missing and had walked the same path she was taking the night she disapeared. I find it odd that he would come up to just take a walk..but from reports he hadn't met Kristi's parents.

Would love to find the answers to these questions...I can't find anything at all on DD other than his own website and his interviews about Kristi

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 01:50 PM
Good Thinking!!
Well I met my ex on line...we talked about 5 months before we met...I took my grown daughter and 2 other friends when I met him...and then 3 more of my friends joined us the next day...everyone thought this man hung the moon...I did too...until we got married...DD reminds me a lot of my ex...a whole lot!! I was married to him about a year..then I divorced him...he isn't the "God Bless you" Man that he appears to be..(he is called the God bless you man..cause he always says that to ppl)..

Would you care to share some of the similarities of these 2 men? From your personal experience what's your take on the daughter who lashes out to anyway who even dare DD's character or honesty?

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 01:54 PM
There are 2 questions we have talked about today that I wished we could find the answers to.

1. Does DD work anywhere? We have not heard how he makes his money. Not likely that his singing group brings in enough money to support him.

2. Did DD drive all the way to Blairsville just to take a walk with Kristi? He had stated in one interview that he was just in Blairsville a couple day before she went missing and had walked the same path she was taking the night she disapeared. I find it odd that he would come up to just take a walk..but from reports he hadn't met Kristi's parents.

Would love to find the answers to these questions...I can't find anything at all on DD other than his own website and his interviews about Kristi


I went searching for those exact answers and it appears for what ever reason the media failed to recognize these inconsitencies. I'm not a certified journalist but can clearly see several aspects which needs further looking into. What are some of you local's opinions or can you offer information that could help clear some of this up?

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 02:14 PM
Articles of Incorporation for the Douglas G. Davis Evangelistic Association, Inc.

http://www.elianagodanswers.org/Articles-Of-Incorporation.html

I found it interesting that the street address for DD's ministry is the association's secretary/treasurer and not his. I wonder why that's the case.

ttcRider
09-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Articles of Incorporation for the Douglas G. Davis Evangelistic Association, Inc.

http://www.elianagodanswers.org/Articles-Of-Incorporation.html

I found it interesting that the street address for DD's ministry is the association's secretary/treasurer and not his. I wonder why that's the case.

Mona Moses... how appropriate. :laugh: Sorry, couldnt help myself.

Ms Daisy
09-01-2009, 02:25 PM
Might have. Wish we knew more about him. If that poster is correct in that DD is a manipulative person, then maybe this person was correct in what they said also:

Worriedinatlanta said:
I am so worried for Kristi, Douglas is a very FAKE, EVIL, man that I know on a personal level..
Praying for your return.

Posted 08/29/2009 at 05:48:33 PM

Bolded by me

Uh Oh......Hopefully, LE is reading here and starts interviewing some of his "friends" who really know him.

You know.......Kristi was probably pretty savvy (as a working PO) and could 'read' a guy like Davis from the get go. If she ever did meet him in person, she already had his 'number' and didn't pursue that friendship further. If that was the case, it wouldn't be the first time a spurned love interest when off on a victim and did the unspeakable.

If Davis knows what's good for him, he will cease any further exposure on TV and keep his big mouth shut before he personally indicts himself.

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm still reading through DD's evangelistic association website and ran across something I personally find quite disturbing.

On August 26, 2009, the following was added to the website:

The new CD “My God Answers” Released

In April of 2009 our new CD entitled “My God Answers” was released by Lamp Music on the Gospel Heritage label. The CD is produced by Mike Pillow with vocals produced by Roni Goss and vocal arrangements by Cliff Duren. The CD has a vast array of music. Featuring the brand new song “On The Other Side Of The Cross” which features Angie Mann and “I Plead The Blood” featuring Lauren Davis. And the Hymn “I Must Tell Jesus” arranged by Roni Goss. Plus 10 other songs that are sure to bless and encourage you in your walk with the Lord. The CD is available for purchase from our ministry store.

It makes me sick that less than one week ago a CD released in April was promoted and leads me to believe even more so that the whirlwind interview tour was done for personal and financial gain. JMO.

My heart aches even more for Kristi, her family, and her true friends.







http://elianagodanswers.org/catalog/testimonies/

just42day97
09-01-2009, 02:47 PM
Would you care to share some of the similarities of these 2 men? From your personal experience what's your take on the daughter who lashes out to anyway who even dare DD's character or honesty?

My ex also has a Daughter who has done the same thing in defending her Dad..
My Ex would "use" the words God, and Jesus, and the Lord to get what he wanted...He pretended to be this Christian Man but in fact he was a con man. Around those who didn't know him he would always..always..bring up the Bible in some way..he would talk about what God has done in his life...He even talked his way into these ppl letting him buy this 65 acre park from them and he just paid them payments instead of going and borrowing the money ( he could not go borrow cos his credit sucked) he turned the park into a Christian RV type park...then he ended up selling memberships to the park...whiich ended up being a huge mess..then he tried to sell the park without the prior owners knowing and without paying for the balance he owed them..oh and that is just one story I can tell you..there is many more...
but DD reminds me of him so much...just the way he talks about God...I've known so many that uses God to con ppl, use ppl, and trick ppl. my ex is one of those kind....they can talk their way into anything at all but pretending to be something they really aren't.
One of his best lines to get something from someone was....God has told me..blank..blank..(fill in the blanks with whatever he wanted at the time)
All of this is JMO...I do not know DD...but as many of us has said..something about him just does not add up..

just42day97
09-01-2009, 03:02 PM
I have been reading all of these things for days just want to add my thoughts: I think Mr. Davis is a nut and all those flowery speeches he makes is a alot of bull. She may have ask him to her house after meeting him on the internet and talking to him on the phone. Her parents could have been out of town or she just didn't want them to know yet. She would have probably been embarressed to tell them she was dating so soon after a failed relationship and didn't want to worry them or disappoint them. She probably knew he was a nut after she met him and was giving him the cold shoulder.I believe what ever happened to her has something to do with him. It could be a jealous woman that he was also seeing that wanted her out of the way or maybe his way to get revenge for the brush off. If she had not told anyone even her BF she must of not thought it was going anywhere or she would have told her BF. I think those other posters that are defending him on other web sites may be him or maybe one of his other girlfriends, IMO

I've also thought about DD having another GF and she might have done this or had it done...I also agree with your thoughts concerning DD not meeting Kristi parents...I know if that were me..and I had been divorced x3..and the last divorce was not final or the ink not even being dry on the papers, I would not want to bring a man i had met on line to meet my parents....

fastpitch
09-01-2009, 03:03 PM
Since this seems to be the topic, I will add that my niece is married to a very charismatic man that calls himself a pastor. He is nothing of the sort.

A pastor, to me, went to seminary and has a church.

I wonder if DD went to seminary, since he states that he has been a pastor since age 19?

My "nephew" makes a living by selling his wife's DVDs (singing) and bilking churches out of donations. MOO

Not everyone that calls themselves a pastor has a degree.

mitzi
09-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Since this seems to be the topic, I will add that my niece is married to a very charismatic man that calls himself a pastor. He is nothing of the sort.

A pastor, to me, went to seminary and has a church.

I wonder if DD went to seminary, since he states that he has been a pastor since age 19?

My "nephew" makes a living by selling his wife's DVDs (singing) and bilking churches out of donations. MOO

Not everyone that calls themselves a pastor has a degree.

DD's bio doesn't mention anything about education, seminary, former churches.....just more blah blah blah..... So what makes someone a pastor? Or minister? If no seminary, is this self proclaimed? Can just anyone call themselves that? (forgive me, I'm Catholic. I have no idea how this works.)

DD's bio does say he has been a pastor, assistant pastor, and a minister of music. But where? I said it earlier.....can't find anything about him anywhere. He seems so "it's all about me", has his website, puts on shows, is described as thinking everything he has done is great - so wouldn't you think that no matter where he has been or worked, there would be some history of him? It's as if he didn't really exist until he formed Eliana. And for some reason that has really been bothering me for the past couple of days, and I can't put my finger on exactly why this is so disturbing to me.

openminded
09-01-2009, 03:51 PM
I've wondered too what Davis does for a living. Do churches pay to have visiting ministers? I listened to the song on his website and I can't imagine they are making a lot of money with paid performances or selling CD's.

Speaking of getting paid -- the major networks deny they pay people for interviews but they do pay them for video or photos in order to get around the "paying for interviews" problem.

DD had at least one interview in New York. But I don't remember seeing a photo of DD and Kristi. Does anyone else?

openminded
09-01-2009, 03:53 PM
DD's bio doesn't mention anything about education, seminary, former churches.....just more blah blah blah..... So what makes someone a pastor? Or minister? If no seminary, is this self proclaimed? Can just anyone call themselves that? (forgive me, I'm Catholic. I have no idea how this works.)

DD's bio does say he has been a pastor, assistant pastor, and a minister of music. But where? I said it earlier.....can't find anything about him anywhere. He seems so "it's all about me", has his website, puts on shows, is described as thinking everything he has done is great - so wouldn't you think that no matter where he has been or worked, there would be some history of him? It's as if he didn't really exist until he formed Eliana. And for some reason that has really been bothering me for the past couple of days, and I can't put my finger on exactly why this is so disturbing to me.

I think they can just be "called to preach" and that's basically it.

doctor_J
09-01-2009, 05:26 PM
Well, one of the few things we know is that Kristi makes bad choices in men (at least bad for her).

Isn't everyone taking as fact that her family has never met him? I haven't seen that confirmed or reported, just another rumor, since they don't seem to know him much at all.

One brief comment on Kristi sending him the book. As soon as we found out it was not her personal copy of a "used" book I just assumed she ordered it online and had it shipped to him. She is internet savvy. I don't know why she would do it any other way. On-.line book purchases will include a personal note if you request it.

2 things we need to know to make any kind of informed decision as to whether she was abducted or staged an abduction: One is the transcript of the phone call during the abduction. The other is the evidence of abduction found at the scene.

If she fought for her life, I think there would be evidence of skinned knees, skinned feet, etc., from the pavement. Blood and skin for forensics. They said there was evidence of a struggle. If the perp had a gun or knife, there probably wouldn't be a struggle. She was a good size woman in good health and it would take a strong, determined man to overcome and control her. Unless she knew him, he would probably have to chase her down too. Would a woman let a stranger get within grabbing distance before running? She was wearing shorts, T-shirts and flip-flops. A lot of skin exposed to get abraised in a fight on pavement and/or gravel.

The phone call would probably reveal if there was more than one perp or if she knew them.

Wonder why they won't release this info, unless they have a suspect and are waiting on DNA (maybe from skin, blood or broken nails in roadway). Or unless they have none of that and suspect a hoax.

GracieCat
09-01-2009, 05:32 PM
DD has a daughter, so there must be an ex-wife. Probably a good resource. Hope she's still around and can provide info for LE.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 05:35 PM
DD has a daughter, so there must be an ex-wife. Probably a good resource. Hope she's still around and can provide info for LE.

Yea I have been wondering about the ex wife...He may be a widower...I've not heard.
Anyone have access to GA. public records?

just42day97
09-01-2009, 05:37 PM
Well, one of the few things we know is that Kristi makes bad choices in men (at least bad for her).

Isn't everyone taking as fact that her family has never met him? I haven't seen that confirmed or reported, just another rumor, since they don't seem to know him much at all.
One brief comment on Kristi sending him the book. As soon as we found out it was not her personal copy of a "used" book I just assumed she ordered it online and had it shipped to him. She is internet savvy. I don't know why she would do it any other way. On-.line book purchases will include a personal note if you request it.

2 things we need to know to make any kind of informed decision as to whether she was abducted or staged an abduction: One is the transcript of the phone call during the abduction. The other is the evidence of abduction found at the scene.

If she fought for her life, I think there would be evidence of skinned knees, skinned feet, etc., from the pavement. Blood and skin for forensics. They said there was evidence of a struggle. If the perp had a gun or knife, there probably wouldn't be a struggle. She was a good size woman in good health and it would take a strong, determined man to overcome and control her. Unless she knew him, he would probably have to chase her down too. Would a woman let a stranger get within grabbing distance before running? She was wearing shorts, T-shirts and flip-flops. A lot of skin exposed to get abraised in a fight on pavement and/or gravel.

The phone call would probably reveal if there was more than one perp or if she knew them.

Wonder why they won't release this info, unless they have a suspect and are waiting on DNA (maybe from skin, blood or broken nails in roadway). Or unless they have none of that and suspect a hoax.


I thought I had read that the brother has said that the family had not met him until after she went missing...can't remember where I read that though...

Mr FATE
09-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Good afternoon and evening all.

As I have said, I have been following MPs for years and years. I developed a set of skills to help where I could. I developed some skills through trial and error (there isn't an internet school to lead someone by the hand)... much like many others that have an interest in helping people that need help. We do it because we want to help. That's all. We all know that the odds in these cases are terrible. They have gotten better because of the internet and the word can spread faster. But, even so, there are still people being abducted daily and there isn't a downturn in the over-all number of people being abducted.

In Kristi's case I notice many of the same things you all do. Hey, we're not blind. We all see many of the same things.

Who's not talking? Well, Kristi's family. This is very very odd and to be honest, I have seen people saying more about a lost dog. I'm not saying that to be harsh, just making a point that this is not the norm. Most families of the missing person are begging for air-time and are doing as many interviews as possible. I know the families of many missing people and in my own opinion, this is the exception to the norm...

Who else is not talking - the local LE, GBI and FBI. Again - just odd. And I know that someone will say, they don't want to jeopardize the case. That's not my point. And, I posted a headline yesterday that there were 911 call(s) released in the murder of seven people IN Georgia. So, for whatever reason Law Enforcement is not speaking, well, I'm not buying it. Isn't Kristi's life just as valuable as mine or yours'? I have no clue what they are doing in this case, and I have no clue because they won't talk - again, just odd. This is not the norm either.

Who is / was talking? Well, that's easy, Mr Davis and his defenders. He spoke non-stop for a while there and that was mostly about himself. I didn't even see crocodile tears. I hope he's a better singer than actor, cause I don't buy it.

The defenders - most cases have a few loonies that will defend Charles Manson, Scott Petersen, Mark Hacking, Joran Van Der Sloot, and the likes, the list is long and arduous. They go all out and seem if as they are paid and have a serious agenda. In my opinion, they are the crazies that make normal people roll their eyes back. No sense wondering or trying to figure out why they do it... they're just crazy.

In Kristi's case, I still have no idea what happened to her, but no matter what that was, I'm confidant that the truth will prevail in the long run.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 06:10 PM
My ex also has a Daughter who has done the same thing in defending her Dad..
My Ex would "use" the words God, and Jesus, and the Lord to get what he wanted...He pretended to be this Christian Man but in fact he was a con man. Around those who didn't know him he would always..always..bring up the Bible in some way..he would talk about what God has done in his life...He even talked his way into these ppl letting him buy this 65 acre park from them and he just paid them payments instead of going and borrowing the money ( he could not go borrow cos his credit sucked) he turned the park into a Christian RV type park...then he ended up selling memberships to the park...whiich ended up being a huge mess..then he tried to sell the park without the prior owners knowing and without paying for the balance he owed them..oh and that is just one story I can tell you..there is many more...
but DD reminds me of him so much...just the way he talks about God...I've known so many that uses God to con ppl, use ppl, and trick ppl. my ex is one of those kind....they can talk their way into anything at all but pretending to be something they really aren't.
One of his best lines to get something from someone was....God has told me..blank..blank..(fill in the blanks with whatever he wanted at the time)
All of this is JMO...I do not know DD...but as many of us has said..something about him just does not add up..


I apologize for the delay in responding. Thank you. Did you ever get any insight to the relationship b/w daughter and father? Your information is quite eye opening. How long into the relationship before he started dropping his mask?

just42day97
09-01-2009, 06:16 PM
Good afternoon and evening all.

As I have said, I have been following MPs for years and years. I developed a set of skills to help where I could. I developed some skills through trial and error (there isn't an internet school to lead someone by the hand)... much like many others that have an interest in helping people that need help. We do it because we want to help. That's all. We all know that the odds in these cases are terrible. They have gotten better because of the internet and the word can spread faster. But, even so, there are still people being abducted daily and there isn't a downturn in the over-all number of people being abducted.

In Kristi's case I notice many of the same things you all do. Hey, we're not blind. We all see many of the same things.

Who's not talking? Well, Kristi's family. This is very very odd and to be honest, I have seen people saying more about a lost dog. I'm not saying that to be harsh, just making a point that this is not the norm. Most families of the missing person are begging for air-time and are doing as many interviews as possible. I know the families of many missing people and in my own opinion, this is the exception to the norm...

Who else is not talking - the local LE, GBI and FBI. Again - just odd. And I know that someone will say, they don't want to jeopardize the case. That's not my point. And, I posted a headline yesterday that there were 911 call(s) released in the murder of seven people IN Georgia. So, for whatever reason Law Enforcement is not speaking, well, I'm not buying it. Isn't Kristi's life just as valuable as mine or yours'? I have no clue what they are doing in this case, and I have no clue because they won't talk - again, just odd. This is not the norm either.

Who is / was talking? Well, that's easy, Mr Davis and his defenders. He spoke non-stop for a while there and that was mostly about himself. I didn't even see crocodile tears. I hope he's a better singer than actor, cause I don't buy it.

The defenders - most cases have a few loonies that will defend Charles Manson, Scott Petersen, Mark Hacking, Joran Van Der Sloot, and the likes, the list is long and arduous. They go all out and seem if as they are paid and have a serious agenda. In my opinion, they are the crazies that make normal people roll their eyes back. No sense wondering or trying to figure out why they do it... they're just crazy.

In Kristi's case, I still have no idea what happened to her, but no matter what that was, I'm confidant that the truth will prevail in the long run.


I agree with your entire post..
one thing in common with Kristi's case and Mary Smith's case is the familes...Both familes are extreamly silent...We could not understand it at all in Mary's case...Some of us thought it meant they didn't care....We even made the comment about more ppl look for lost dogs.. In Kristi's case...it may mean the same..they may know something we don't...like maybe she did leave on her own...

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 06:17 PM
I just saw at WS someone posted a link to http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director%20&id=3510411-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director&instance=home_news

Public help often needed to solve crimes, says GBI deputy director

Even with 60 agents on the ground gathering evidence, breaking a case often comes down to public assistance.

Georgia Bureau of Investigation Deputy Director Russell Andrews, told members of the Seven Hills Rotary at a luncheon on Tuesday that he recently spent a week investigating the disappearance of a missing north Georgia woman in North Carolina.

“At this point we’re no closer to knowing where she is and what happened to her,” Andrews said. “We need the public’s help.”

Kristi Cornwell, 38, of Blairsville, disappeared from her hometown of Blairsville on Aug. 11. Police said she was abducted while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone during a walk.

Andrews, a Rome native, spent much of the time describing the duties of the agency and its divisions.

The GBI has three divisions: the Georgia Crime Information Center or GCIC, the crime lab and investigations.

Budget cuts have slowed the GBI’s ability to process crime scene evidence and also cut into the numbers of sworn agents. The agency had 300 agents six years ago and those numbers have diminished to 251 now.

In response the agency is working to specialize more to provide needed services to small law enforcement agencies across the state – which cannot afford to have more specialized units.

Most likely if the GBI gets involved in an investigation it’s because someone has specifically requested their presence, Andrews said.

Generally the governor, a police chief or sheriff, the district attorney, a judge or the fire department requests the agency to investigate a specific crime or occurrence.

“We can work in certain situations without request in certain areas,” Andrews said.

The agency has specific jurisdiction over certain crimes such as computer crimes, crimes committed on state property and in some cases drug trafficking.

Now Atlanta has gained the dubious title as the drug hub for the eastern United States and the GBI is working to crack down on traffickers.

“Many of use can remember back in the 1980s when Miami was the drug hub,” Andrews said. “Now it’s Atlanta and branches out into some of the more rural communities.”

“We’re seeing if we can shut that down or at least make it unpleasant so they’ll move somewhere else,” he said.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 06:18 PM
Good afternoon and evening all.

As I have said, I have been following MPs for years and years. I developed a set of skills to help where I could. I developed some skills through trial and error (there isn't an internet school to lead someone by the hand)... much like many others that have an interest in helping people that need help. We do it because we want to help. That's all. We all know that the odds in these cases are terrible. They have gotten better because of the internet and the word can spread faster. But, even so, there are still people being abducted daily and there isn't a downturn in the over-all number of people being abducted.

In Kristi's case I notice many of the same things you all do. Hey, we're not blind. We all see many of the same things.

Who's not talking? Well, Kristi's family. This is very very odd and to be honest, I have seen people saying more about a lost dog. I'm not saying that to be harsh, just making a point that this is not the norm. Most families of the missing person are begging for air-time and are doing as many interviews as possible. I know the families of many missing people and in my own opinion, this is the exception to the norm...

Who else is not talking - the local LE, GBI and FBI. Again - just odd. And I know that someone will say, they don't want to jeopardize the case. That's not my point. And, I posted a headline yesterday that there were 911 call(s) released in the murder of seven people IN Georgia. So, for whatever reason Law Enforcement is not speaking, well, I'm not buying it. Isn't Kristi's life just as valuable as mine or yours'? I have no clue what they are doing in this case, and I have no clue because they won't talk - again, just odd. This is not the norm either.

Who is / was talking? Well, that's easy, Mr Davis and his defenders. He spoke non-stop for a while there and that was mostly about himself. I didn't even see crocodile tears. I hope he's a better singer than actor, cause I don't buy it.

Snipped with the most respect

In Kristi's case, I still have no idea what happened to her, but no matter what that was, I'm confidant that the truth will prevail in the long run.


Last night I was asking what all of your impressions were of the gender of the extreme defender of DD, who swears they have never met..B/c of the name we tend to assume female but there have been so many strange twists and turns I felt this should be assessed more. From the word usage and sentence structures what's your thoughts? If female then that's a whole other issue but if this nic is male..who would defend anothers character so passionately may give a clue.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 06:23 PM
C. Hound didn't want to edit anything of what you posted. If this officer says they need more public support then why in the heck aren't they reaching out to us? Surely he isn't implying that for now their primary focus is going to be on the drug issue that will take many agents and therefor not be capable of working other crimes?

Mr FATE
09-01-2009, 06:28 PM
Last night I was asking what all of your impressions were of the gender of the extreme defender of DD, who swears they have never met..B/c of the name we tend to assume female but there have been so many strange twists and turns I felt this should be assessed more. From the word usage and sentence structures what's your thoughts? If female then that's a whole other issue but if this nic is male..who would defend anothers character so passionately may give a clue.

my personal opinion is that Samantha should turn off her machine and speak to someone that can help her.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 06:33 PM
I apologize for the delay in responding. Thank you. Did you ever get any insight to the relationship b/w daughter and father? Your information is quite eye opening. How long into the relationship before he started dropping his mask?


His Daughter always took up for him..(well not in the end...she ended up making amends to me) she also called him daddy...She would tell me and others that he was the best Man she had ever known..it was kinda a sick relationship....there would be times at midnight she told him she wanted to go to walmart for candy..he gave her a 50.00 bill...she was 26 when we met..so she wasn't a kid at all...she was a teacher and basketball couch...
Sad to say..but right before we got married I noticed that he had ripped off some ppl at the park he owned...he was accepting payments for a years membership when he was set to sell the park in just a couple of weeks..he knew then that they ppl that were buying the park was not going to keep it as a park but he kept getting money in the mail from his members...I said something to him about it, and it brushed it off...that was my sign...but I didn't stop the wedding...after we were married, about 3 months..he said one day..." oh remember me telling you about the IRS"? I said what do you mean...he went on to tell me that he had told me before we got married he owed the IRS over 10 grand...I said OH NO YOU DIDN'T...I would have rememebered that...and from there it went downhill...we had already bought a biz together...and the IRS was trying to take that b/c of his debit with them...it was a horrible nightmare!! anyways he left town in the middle of the night one night with 3 changes of clothes..that is all he took...

just42day97
09-01-2009, 06:36 PM
C. Hound didn't want to edit anything of what you posted. If this officer says they need more public support then why in the heck aren't they reaching out to us? Surely he isn't implying that for now their primary focus is going to be on the drug issue that will take many agents and therefor not be capable of working other crimes?

or reach out to TES....

just42day97
09-01-2009, 06:36 PM
my personal opinion is that Samantha should turn off her machine and speak to someone that can help her.

I didn't know they had people who could help someone like that!!!:tonguewag:

just42day97
09-01-2009, 06:42 PM
Last night I was asking what all of your impressions were of the gender of the extreme defender of DD, who swears they have never met..B/c of the name we tend to assume female but there have been so many strange twists and turns I felt this should be assessed more. From the word usage and sentence structures what's your thoughts? If female then that's a whole other issue but if this nic is male..who would defend anothers character so passionately may give a clue.


JMO...with the person posting with the nick samantha....that person seems to have some very extreme emtions...so b/c of that i would say a female...that is JMO...but this person is like all over the place..crazy posting not just here on this board...but other boards too...

ttcRider
09-01-2009, 06:58 PM
JMO...with the person posting with the nick samantha....that person seems to have some very extreme emtions...so b/c of that i would say a female...that is JMO...but this person is like all over the place..crazy posting not just here on this board...but other boards too...

I recall a poster a while back with similar posting style and 'passion' who would melt down and come back within a day or two, diff nic but same passion. We all just chalked it up to a 'crazy' poster. They're out there! :sad:

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:03 PM
His Daughter always took up for him..(well not in the end...she ended up making amends to me) she also called him daddy...She would tell me and others that he was the best Man she had ever known..it was kinda a sick relationship....there would be times at midnight she told him she wanted to go to walmart for candy..he gave her a 50.00 bill...she was 26 when we met..so she wasn't a kid at all...she was a teacher and basketball couch...
Sad to say..but right before we got married I noticed that he had ripped off some ppl at the park he owned...he was accepting payments for a years membership when he was set to sell the park in just a couple of weeks..he knew then that they ppl that were buying the park was not going to keep it as a park but he kept getting money in the mail from his members...I said something to him about it, and it brushed it off...that was my sign...but I didn't stop the wedding...after we were married, about 3 months..he said one day..." oh remember me telling you about the IRS"? I said what do you mean...he went on to tell me that he had told me before we got married he owed the IRS over 10 grand...I said OH NO YOU DIDN'T...I would have rememebered that...and from there it went downhill...we had already bought a biz together...and the IRS was trying to take that b/c of his debit with them...it was a horrible nightmare!! anyways he left town in the middle of the night one night with 3 changes of clothes..that is all he took...



OMG! What a nightmare to live thru and you're still sane?

momof6
09-01-2009, 07:04 PM
Good afternoon and evening all.

As I have said, I have been following MPs for years and years. I developed a set of skills to help where I could. I developed some skills through trial and error (there isn't an internet school to lead someone by the hand)... much like many others that have an interest in helping people that need help. We do it because we want to help. That's all. We all know that the odds in these cases are terrible. They have gotten better because of the internet and the word can spread faster. But, even so, there are still people being abducted daily and there isn't a downturn in the over-all number of people being abducted.

In Kristi's case I notice many of the same things you all do. Hey, we're not blind. We all see many of the same things.

Who's not talking? Well, Kristi's family. This is very very odd and to be honest, I have seen people saying more about a lost dog. I'm not saying that to be harsh, just making a point that this is not the norm. Most families of the missing person are begging for air-time and are doing as many interviews as possible. I know the families of many missing people and in my own opinion, this is the exception to the norm...

Who else is not talking - the local LE, GBI and FBI. Again - just odd. And I know that someone will say, they don't want to jeopardize the case. That's not my point. And, I posted a headline yesterday that there were 911 call(s) released in the murder of seven people IN Georgia. So, for whatever reason Law Enforcement is not speaking, well, I'm not buying it. Isn't Kristi's life just as valuable as mine or yours'? I have no clue what they are doing in this case, and I have no clue because they won't talk - again, just odd. This is not the norm either.

Who is / was talking? Well, that's easy, Mr Davis and his defenders. He spoke non-stop for a while there and that was mostly about himself. I didn't even see crocodile tears. I hope he's a better singer than actor, cause I don't buy it.

The defenders - most cases have a few loonies that will defend Charles Manson, Scott Petersen, Mark Hacking, Joran Van Der Sloot, and the likes, the list is long and arduous. They go all out and seem if as they are paid and have a serious agenda. In my opinion, they are the crazies that make normal people roll their eyes back. No sense wondering or trying to figure out why they do it... they're just crazy.

In Kristi's case, I still have no idea what happened to her, but no matter what that was, I'm confidant that the truth will prevail in the long run.

No details..... That is why so many people are speculating at every different angle. At this point I could never point my finger at anyone. Not enough info......

just42day97
09-01-2009, 07:06 PM
OMG! What a nightmare to live thru and you're still sane?

lol I think I am a little more sane than the poster we have been talking about anyways!!!!.....:tonguewag:

momof6
09-01-2009, 07:07 PM
All good possible reasons Kristi hadn't introduced Davis to her friends and family yet.

You did get me to thinking about how and where they met in person for the first time.

I met my husband online. We'd chatted on the internet and talked on the phone for... oh I dunno, must have been a year or close to it. Even though I was confident he was everything I thought he was, our first IRL meeting was hundreds of miles away from my home, in a different state and I didn't go alone. My mom went with me for protection. :D

That sounds like it was exciting. Well........Is he everything? I know I'm off topic, but love to here great love stories.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:08 PM
I recall a poster a while back with similar posting style and 'passion' who would melt down and come back within a day or two, diff nic but same passion. We all just chalked it up to a 'crazy' poster. They're out there! :sad:

Eewwww, is there a pattern in their passion? Like, do they attempt to interject themselves as close friends or family? Or, such as this case, swear they have never met any of the persons of this case but have a passion to defend "the innocent suspect"? Or simply behaving like a bipolar off of medicine?

momof6
09-01-2009, 07:10 PM
If KC staged the abduction to escape a failed life (à la Mary Burne Smith), then DD was merely a convenient and believeable witness, verifiably far enough away that night to clear him as a suspect, and so no need to go through the trouble to have him meet M&D (no one needs more parental pressure in a failed life). The "Please don't take me" statement and the phone left on a nearby front lawn seem somewhat contrived. The phone left in plain view on a local road perhaps to focus the search locally while KC took off across country, or the perp or KC threw it away while traveling a local road to avoid possible stops & searches on the main roads. If perp ended the call during the abduction, then why not leave the phone there, unless to wipe prints? If KC ended the call, why? Perhaps call ended accidentally. Why is LE so quiet about evidence (prints on phone, personal items found, etc)?

I wonder if the reason why her family and lawenforcement are not talking is because maybe they know she may have taken off, but don't know 100%, so can't say. Maybe some things on her computer have led them to think she may have gone on her own. Just speculating.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:11 PM
All good possible reasons Kristi hadn't introduced Davis to her friends and family yet.

You did get me to thinking about how and where they met in person for the first time.

I met my husband online. We'd chatted on the internet and talked on the phone for... oh I dunno, must have been a year or close to it. Even though I was confident he was everything I thought he was, our first IRL meeting was hundreds of miles away from my home, in a different state and I didn't go alone. My mom went with me for protection. :D

All of which are healthy precautions that Kristi never used.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:13 PM
Oh shoot, Mr Fate what's your instinct saying about these peculiar behaviors and actions? I sense there's something there and I'm missing something but I've worn a hole in the rug trying to wrap my brain around this.

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 07:16 PM
I agree with your entire post..
one thing in common with Kristi's case and Mary Smith's case is the familes...Both familes are extreamly silent...We could not understand it at all in Mary's case...Some of us thought it meant they didn't care....We even made the comment about more ppl look for lost dogs.. In Kristi's case...it may mean the same..they may know something we don't...like maybe she did leave on her own...

In the Mary Smith case, was there a reward fund? Did the family organize searches? I ask because KC's family still has the donation link to the reward fund posted at www.kristicornwell.com and I think they were organizing a search party. KC's parents and brother seemed so genuine and honest during their interviews, so it makes me doubt they'd be asking for money or asking for volunteer help if she left on her own...unless LE asked them to keep up the charade that she had been abducted (why they would do that, I don't know).

Cheri_G
09-01-2009, 07:24 PM
That sounds like it was exciting. Well........Is he everything? I know I'm off topic, but love to here great love stories.

Off Topic....

It was exciting and yeah, to me he is everything. We've been happily married for nearly 9 years. :smile:

ttcRider
09-01-2009, 07:25 PM
Eewwww, is there a pattern in their passion? Like, do they attempt to interject themselves as close friends or family? Or, such as this case, swear they have never met any of the persons of this case but have a passion to defend "the innocent suspect"? Or simply behaving like a bipolar off of medicine?

pretty much the same as our poster Sam... swears they have never met but felt compelled to defend them to the end. :laugh: Maybe they see it as a 'calling' :wink:

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:25 PM
I thought I had read that the brother has said that the family had not met him until after she went missing...can't remember where I read that though...

It all depends on who you want to believe. Kristi's family stated they had never met him nor had Kristi ever informed them about DD. Kristi's friends who say they shared things with each other. They knew Kristi was still in the process of divorcing husband #3 and Kristi had never mentioned DD before. On the other side of the mountain, you have DD who says they met on the internet, met in person, feel instantly in love and were making plans to be together 4ever. DD says just the Sunday prior he had went walking with Kristi on that very same path. DD's daughter swears they had met and were planning on introducing his 2 children to Kristi just a couple of days after she was abducted.

You Decide:rolleyes:

just42day97
09-01-2009, 07:25 PM
In the Mary Smith case, was there a reward fund? Did the family organize searches? I ask because KC's family still has the donation link to the reward fund posted at www.kristicornwell.com and I think they were organizing a search party. KC's parents and brother seemed so genuine and honest during their interviews, so it makes me doubt they'd be asking for money or asking for volunteer help if she left on her own...unless LE asked them to keep up the charade that she had been abducted (why they would do that, I don't know).


They did have a reward fund...not as much as Kristi's....and to my knowledge they didn't have any searches...other than what LE did...Mary went missing in Bossier City LA. and she was from Al.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:28 PM
pretty much the same as our poster Sam... swears they have never met but felt compelled to defend them to the end. :laugh: Maybe they see it as a 'calling' :wink:

What makes them go away, candy, cigarettes, pat on the back:wink:

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:30 PM
Just a lil bit O/T here but where the heck is Mr Fate? He comes on, tickels our noggins and pufff, gone. Wonder if he could be bribed?:rolleyes:

ttcRider
09-01-2009, 07:32 PM
What makes them go away, candy, cigarettes, pat on the back:wink:

I think it was the iggy button. :biggrin:

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:36 PM
Speaking of getting paid -- the major networks deny they pay people for interviews but they do pay them for video or photos in order to get around the "paying for interviews" problem.

DD had at least one interview in New York. But I don't remember seeing a photo of DD and Kristi. Does anyone else?


Strange now that you mention this. I don't recall any photos of DD and Kristi ever made public although he does toot that book which he feels that Kristi is reaching out to him.

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Last night I was asking what all of your impressions were of the gender of the extreme defender of DD, who swears they have never met..B/c of the name we tend to assume female but there have been so many strange twists and turns I felt this should be assessed more. From the word usage and sentence structures what's your thoughts? If female then that's a whole other issue but if this nic is male..who would defend anothers character so passionately may give a clue.

If this poster is telling the truth in not knowing DD, I'd say she's female because I don't see a guy caring if a total stranger is being dissected. Now if the poster does know DD, that could mean either sex. If the person is a man, he could be a male family member (maybe the son he mentioned in his ministry website's bio?), a close friend, or DD himself. I have no idea and am only speculating.

What I do know is that this poster has changed her/his/its MO, at least temporarily. H/h/i is suggesting more information needs to be released by LE. I take that request in one of two ways but could be entirely wrong: (1) h/h/i truly believes what h/h/i has been preaching and the word will prove DD's innocence; or (2) the person does know DD has a solid alibi and wants that made public.

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:38 PM
I think it was the iggy button. :biggrin:


OK, will be stocking up on batteries, just in case the electricity goes out:tongue:

ClimbingRose
09-01-2009, 07:42 PM
If this poster is telling the truth in not knowing DD, I'd say she's female because I don't see a guy caring if a total stranger is being dissected. Now if the poster does know DD, that could mean either sex. If the person is a man, he could be a male family member (maybe the son he mentioned in his ministry website's bio?), a close friend, or DD himself. I have no idea and am only speculating.

What I do know is that this poster has changed her/his/its MO, at least temporarily. H/h/i is suggesting more information needs to be released by LE. I take that request in one of two ways but could be entirely wrong: (1) h/h/i truly believes what h/h/i has been preaching and the word will prove DD's innocence; or (2) the person does know DD has a solid alibi and wants that made public.


If it is male then my suspicion is bf who is using a nic to defend his strong moral character:ohmy: and trying to sway the strong focus from him to a strange creature that none of us are aware of:wink:

MO

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 07:47 PM
If it is male then my suspicion is bf who is using a nic to defend his strong moral character:ohmy: and trying to sway the strong focus from him to a strange creature that none of us are aware of:wink:

MO

:thumbsup:

fastpitch
09-01-2009, 07:53 PM
I thought that Samantha may have been DD. I had forgotten about it until now.

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 08:28 PM
another posibility, far fetched but I have heard stranger things... could it be the victim herself defending Mr. Davis because he's ready to crack under the pressure and admit his part in this crazy web of events. That would explain why the GBI is so quite also LE maybe they are giving both rope to hang themself just another way this case might make sense.

Track292003
09-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Off Topic....

It was exciting and yeah, to me he is everything. We've been happily married for nearly 9 years. :smile:

It's wonderful to hear that....congratulations to both of you!

doctor_J
09-01-2009, 08:37 PM
It all depends on who you want to believe. Kristi's family stated they had never met him nor had Kristi ever informed them about DD. Kristi's friends who say they shared things with each other. They knew Kristi was still in the process of divorcing husband #3 and Kristi had never mentioned DD before. On the other side of the mountain, you have DD who says they met on the internet, met in person, feel instantly in love and were making plans to be together 4ever. DD says just the Sunday prior he had went walking with Kristi on that very same path. DD's daughter swears they had met and were planning on introducing his 2 children to Kristi just a couple of days after she was abducted.

You Decide:rolleyes:

Anyone find where the family or brother ever said they never met him. I'm thinking that is also rumor, just as whether she was still in process of divorce but it's been repeated so often folks are taking it as fact. All I've read is that they would make no comment about Mr. Davis at this time. The friend (Melissa?) said she never met or heard of him in an interview but there is some question as to how close a friend she really was, in recent times. The whole bluetooth thing seems to be rumor, often repeated as fact.

abbygator
09-01-2009, 08:41 PM
I just wanted to say I hope your mom is doing better today.:smile:

C.Hound
09-01-2009, 08:48 PM
another posibility, far fetched but I have heard stranger things... could it be the victim herself defending Mr. Davis because he's ready to crack under the pressure and admit his part in this crazy web of events. That would explain why the GBI is so quite also LE maybe they are giving both rope to hang themself just another way this case might make sense.

That's interesting and would definitely make for a move-of-the-week.

The only thing I do wonder though is why that poster is suddenly changing gears and suggesting more information needs to be made public. I don't tend to think like a crazed person, so I'll probably never be able to figure it out...

abbygator
09-01-2009, 08:52 PM
another posibility, far fetched but I have heard stranger things... could it be the victim herself defending Mr. Davis because he's ready to crack under the pressure and admit his part in this crazy web of events. That would explain why the GBI is so quite also LE maybe they are giving both rope to hang themself just another way this case might make sense.

One of my friends/coworkers said this today (are you her?!). :unsure:

I hadn't thought about that as an option but then it would make sense that DD doesn't seem more heartbroken over her disappearance if he was in on it.

That seems so mean to do to ones family and own child though. But it has happened.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 09:17 PM
I just wanted to say I hope your mom is doing better today.:smile:

Thank you!! And she is better...the meds didn't make her as sick today...let's pray these meds work and this will go away...
I know this is o/t
But thanks to all of you for your prayers and caring words..I've been posting here for about 4 years and I have found some of the most caring ppl here....(and some crazy ones too!!...)
You all are the BEST!

just42day97
09-01-2009, 09:19 PM
another posibility, far fetched but I have heard stranger things... could it be the victim herself defending Mr. Davis because he's ready to crack under the pressure and admit his part in this crazy web of events. That would explain why the GBI is so quite also LE maybe they are giving both rope to hang themself just another way this case might make sense.

awww...good thought...very possible...

just42day97
09-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Just a lil bit O/T here but where the heck is Mr Fate? He comes on, tickels our noggins and pufff, gone. Wonder if he could be bribed?:rolleyes:

He hasn't been on much today...(guess I am guessing he is a male with his nick..lol)
Come back Mr Fate!

just42day97
09-01-2009, 09:23 PM
Anyone find where the family or brother ever said they never met him. I'm thinking that is also rumor, just as whether she was still in process of divorce but it's been repeated so often folks are taking it as fact. All I've read is that they would make no comment about Mr. Davis at this time. The friend (Melissa?) said she never met or heard of him in an interview but there is some question as to how close a friend she really was, in recent times. The whole bluetooth thing seems to be rumor, often repeated as fact.

ok give me a bit..I will try to find the link...I read it somewhere that the brother said the family hadn't met him until after she went missing.....

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 09:31 PM
One of my friends/coworkers said this today (are you her?!). :unsure:

I hadn't thought about that as an option but then it would make sense that DD doesn't seem more heartbroken over her disappearance if he was in on it.

That seems so mean to do to ones family and own child though. But it has happened.


Really.. that seems to be the opinion of most up this way if you truly are from blairsville then you must be aware of who Kristi's son's uncle is in local politics and why all this silence and lack of LE activity isn't making any sense.

Ice Cycle
09-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Anyone find where the family or brother ever said they never met him. I'm thinking that is also rumor, just as whether she was still in process of divorce but it's been repeated so often folks are taking it as fact. All I've read is that they would make no comment about Mr. Davis at this time. The friend (Melissa?) said she never met or heard of him in an interview but there is some question as to how close a friend she really was, in recent times. The whole bluetooth thing seems to be rumor, often repeated as fact.

If you ask me their is a whole lot of rumors going around and very few facts reported in this case. Something that did occur to me yesterday after looking at the map of Jones Creek Rd (which did not realize it was such a long road, their is a Jones Cr S and Jones Cr N and Jones C Lane), how is it they know for certain that she was on that Road, I mean though I don't see the b/f involved that is just not something you would normally tell someone in a conversation unless asked. I know they said she had walked that road before but I just find it hard to believe that a woman of her age would go walking on that secluded of a road, by herself, that late at night, even there. Is their not other less secluded roads she could of walked.

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Sure Meeks park has walking trails, there's another walking trail across the road next to the college for walking with dogs.. some people meet at the track up at the high school and walk.

mitzi
09-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Really.. that seems to be the opinion of most up this way if you truly are from blairsville then you must be aware of who Kristi's son's uncle is in local politics and why all this silence and lack of LE activity isn't making any sense.

Oohh, that's right! Isn't he a Probate Judge or some other type of Judge?

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 09:57 PM
ouch people...run over to that topic crazy/messed up site and read the latest link a poster calling themself "MISSION" has started a very interesting thread... talking about Jesus all his tribulations trying to save the soul's of the lost...

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 09:59 PM
Oohh, that's right! Isn't he a Probate Judge or some other type of Judge?


Welcome neighbor... now don't you feel this situation should be allot more important and in your face than it's been?

seemsodd
09-01-2009, 10:06 PM
I may be in denial mode Mitzi, but you have to admit I have never felt threatened or afraid in this area, I'm not going to go out walking after dark alone not because I am afraid of someone it would be because of all the wild animals and snakes. No flash light come on I have 4 myself just in case the power goes out as we both know it does in some areas when the wind blows. Another thing the guys up here are spending most evenings and weekends combing the woods and diving the lakes there are several people with small planes at the air port doing searches too what have you seen any LE do in the last week?

mitzi
09-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Welcome neighbor... now don't you feel this situation should be allot more important and in your face than it's been?

YES! I completely forgot about that. And I should have remembered because on the first or second night of all this, my brother stopped at the Marathon on his way home and talked to him. He told me they knew each other from the courthouse, and that his brother is KC's ex-husband.

This makes the situation even stranger to me.......

mitzi
09-01-2009, 10:18 PM
I may be in denial mode Mitzi, but you have to admit I have never felt threatened or afraid in this area, I'm not going to go out walking after dark alone not because I am afraid of someone it would be because of all the wild animals and snakes. No flash light come on I have 4 myself just in case the power goes out as we both know it does in some areas when the wind blows. Another thing the guys up here are spending most evenings and weekends combing the woods and diving the lakes there are several people with small planes at the air port doing searches too what have you seen any LE do in the last week?

Actually, I'm south of you, so I haven't seen anything. I have family around the corner from Jones Creek, and family over on the lake. When we were all together on Saturday, they said they don't see anything happening now. They did in the first week. In fact, one of them went thru a checkpoint and open thier trunk to be searched. Lots of folks up and down 325, since they have to turn at the old Shell to get home. But nothing really happening now.

just42day97
09-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Again...I want to thank you locals for being here.....

Also I have been looking for that link that the Brother said he hadn't met DD until after she went missing...can't find it yet

just42day97
09-01-2009, 10:48 PM
From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html) about ten paragraphs from the bottom:



But does "met" mean before or after the abduction?

Another quirk about this case -- a lot of info is coming through brother Richard instead of LE.

It seems prudent for LE and family to treat this as a bona fide kidnapping.

And you'd think the media would know better than to speak in the past tense: "that the couple was engaged" instead of "that the couple are engaged."

Oh how funny!! I just read that same report just a bit ago...But there is another one somewhere..where he states that he met him after she went missing...Where??..I don't know!!..lol

just42day97
09-02-2009, 12:11 AM
I've been reading back from the posts when Kristi first went missing
There were 2 or 3 more locals back then, but hadn't posed since..
one of them posted this...the nic was farm..something

I am new to the group. I have been reading the posts about Kristi.
She is a friend of mine whom I've known about 2 1/2 years. I know that in the past year or so she married Richard Graham. The last time I spoke with her, they were facing divorce. During the time I've known her, she worked at Home Depot and then somewhere else. Kristi is a fine young lady. Please pray for her safe return.

so a few of us were wondering what the last hubby's name was...looks like maybe it was Richard Graham...I'm about to see if I can find anything on him....
Still not so sure Kristi didn't leave on her own..

just42day97
09-02-2009, 12:22 AM
I still can't get over the statement Kristi's Dad made here...I know we've all read it and it's been posted here before...but when you can't get anywhere in a case you go back to the beginning and look again..some of the things I've read tonight are from the beginning of Kristi's disaperance...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8371075

"I'd like to caution all young people and adults when using the Internet to meet people," he said.


He stated in that interview MEET people...I can't for the life of me think that he would be talking about anything else but.

1- Doug Davis
2- Or maybe they found something else on her computer

The Dad's statement is just to blunt to be speaking of anything else...JMO

doctor_J
09-02-2009, 12:34 AM
Regardless of how distasteful DD is to someone or how much fun it is to ridicule his ministry, if he and his cell phone was in Atlanta during the "event" (an alibi very easy and quck to check out) then you are surmising that he somehow developed an intense and obsessive hatred for Kristi in just 3 to 6 weeks of long distance "dating" and carried out a pay-for-hire or 3rd party abduction successfully. Even though this complex crime would require at least one accomplice, that person is unwilling to "rat him out" even for immunity and a $50-$60,000 reward.

The only other possiblility is that DD and Kristi are in cahoots with a scam.

Both theories are pretty far out there. Especially when placed alongside the much simpler possibility that maybe someone else did it.

momof6
09-02-2009, 12:37 AM
If this poster is telling the truth in not knowing DD, I'd say she's female because I don't see a guy caring if a total stranger is being dissected. Now if the poster does know DD, that could mean either sex. If the person is a man, he could be a male family member (maybe the son he mentioned in his ministry website's bio?), a close friend, or DD himself. I have no idea and am only speculating.

What I do know is that this poster has changed her/his/its MO, at least temporarily. H/h/i is suggesting more information needs to be released by LE. I take that request in one of two ways but could be entirely wrong: (1) h/h/i truly believes what h/h/i has been preaching and the word will prove DD's innocence; or (2) the person does know DD has a solid alibi and wants that made public.

I thought the topic of this thread is suppose to be about Kristi. I really don't care who is posting. Its just all speculation.

momof6
09-02-2009, 12:39 AM
Anyone find where the family or brother ever said they never met him. I'm thinking that is also rumor, just as whether she was still in process of divorce but it's been repeated so often folks are taking it as fact. All I've read is that they would make no comment about Mr. Davis at this time. The friend (Melissa?) said she never met or heard of him in an interview but there is some question as to how close a friend she really was, in recent times. The whole bluetooth thing seems to be rumor, often repeated as fact.

great post

doctor_J
09-02-2009, 12:45 AM
Wonder if Kristi met husband #3 online. One commenter said that marriage lasted 50 something days. Now she's met DD online and she's missing. The dad spoke before LE had time to check out DD's alibi. That would certainly give the dad an adverse opinion of online "meeting" dates.

For me, the possiblility that Kristi ran off own her own is more likely than DD. Being odd is a long way from being an arch criminal and he's not even odd (meaning unusual or rare) where I come from.

I don't like him and I don't trust his type but the chance that he had anything to do with this crime is remote at best. There's just noone else to focus on because everyone else has avoided the spotlight (wisely).

just42day97
09-02-2009, 12:45 AM
I thought the topic of this thread is suppose to be about Kristi. I really don't care who is posting. Its just all speculation.

Yes it is about Kristi...and from time to time we have trolls that come in like a tornado and tries to tear everything and everyone down...When some of us here talked about this poster it was b/c she/he brought with her so much grief while she/he was here....which in a round about way is about Kristi b/c we can't carry on our speculations
while all that is going on. So it happens...but 99% of the time..It's all about Kristi!!

Ice Cycle
09-02-2009, 01:35 AM
Regardless of how distasteful DD is to someone or how much fun it is to ridicule his ministry, if he and his cell phone was in Atlanta during the "event" (an alibi very easy and quck to check out) then you are surmising that he somehow developed an intense and obsessive hatred for Kristi in just 3 to 6 weeks of long distance "dating" and carried out a pay-for-hire or 3rd party abduction successfully. Even though this complex crime would require at least one accomplice, that person is unwilling to "rat him out" even for immunity and a $50-$60,000 reward.

The only other possiblility is that DD and Kristi are in cahoots with a scam.

Both theories are pretty far out there. Especially when placed alongside the much simpler possibility that maybe someone else did it.

I agree with this and is what I have said, however it is true that alot of this I don't believe has been confirmed by LE. To my knowledge Kristi's brother and some Media outlets are the ones that said he had been cleared and then their's gagirl who said someone was with him in Atlanta when he made the call to Kristi's Mom. Regardless I believe given their short relationship and many other things that it is likely he was not involved. I would be more curious about the 3rd ex and other locale's that she might of came in contact with especially that day.

need2no
09-02-2009, 01:43 AM
Anyone find where the family or brother ever said they never met him. I'm thinking that is also rumor, just as whether she was still in process of divorce but it's been repeated so often folks are taking it as fact. All I've read is that they would make no comment about Mr. Davis at this time. The friend (Melissa?) said she never met or heard of him in an interview but there is some question as to how close a friend she really was, in recent times. The whole bluetooth thing seems to be rumor, often repeated as fact.

My bold.

In this video DD says he just met the family 2 days before the abduction. Then he says something like they didn't know who he was, but that was by design. He is shown hugging her mother in the video.

It's around 1:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

doctor_J
09-02-2009, 02:05 AM
Thanks, need2know. At least according to DD, they met before the abduction, just barely. Plenty cause for dad to be suspicious. Even more so if Kristi had internet dated before and it turned out badly.

It is true that only media reports say DD is cleared. But it is significant to me that they attribute that information to a GBI spokesperson by name. Reporters are much more careful when doing that. They rarely try to quote unless they have it video or audio recorded. If they had falsely attributed this info to GBI's spokesperson I would think he would contact them for a retraction.

RainyNiteNTx
09-02-2009, 06:01 AM
My bold.

In this video DD says he just met the family 2 days before the abduction. Then he says something like they didn't know who he was, but that was by design. He is shown hugging her mother in the video.

It's around 1:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

Hey N2N - good to see you. I wonder if this is when he went walking with Kristi - the two days before...I wonder why it was by design that he didn't meet her parents if he drove out to Blairsville to go walk with her.

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 07:07 AM
I agree with Dr. J it is easy to get on a website to discuss your fears and suspicions with people you don't know and doesn't know you. I think that is the general feeling of most, we don't actually talk about the BF or LE at work I think the general feeling at my place of employment is frustration that more isn't being done it's easy to damage someone and their character just because your grasping at straws.

I have never been any good at arm chair dective, guess I watch too much NG and CSI our little community isn't use to crime we get on the net type in Kristi's name to search for info we aren't hearing around here get carried away with all the speculation, join in with our own to heck with the person's reputation and character.

Let me be the first to admit, I'm truly sorry if all my speculation and fertile mind has hurt anyone in any way because it's just that imagination of what could have/might have happened.

Fear of the unknown has always been man's deepest fear... guess the thought that this might have been something other than a planned dissapearance has me a little scared.

RainyNiteNTx
09-02-2009, 07:43 AM
Interesting that you include in your introduction that you don't want to ruin a person's reputation with what you're about to post. Unless you personally witnessed these acts or have some type of evidence that Davis committed the behaviors you accuse him of, I'm pretty sure the moderator will zap this post into the vast empty of cyberspace for the malicious gossip that it is. By the way, that God you speak of, He also has something to say about gossips.

:patriot:

In her post, she said she knows. I'm not sure what you want her to do...send a link who his former girlfriend was or that he doesn't have a car or the words he has spoken?

RainyNiteNTx
09-02-2009, 07:48 AM
I agree with Dr. J it is easy to get on a website to discuss your fears and suspicions with people you don't know and doesn't know you. I think that is the general feeling of most, we don't actually talk about the BF or LE at work I think the general feeling at my place of employment is frustration that more isn't being done it's easy to damage someone and their character just because your grasping at straws.

I have never been any good at arm chair dective, guess I watch too much NG and CSI our little community isn't use to crime we get on the net type in Kristi's name to search for info we aren't hearing around here get carried away with all the speculation, join in with our own to heck with the person's reputation and character.

Let me be the first to admit, I'm truly sorry if all my speculation and fertile mind has hurt anyone in any way because it's just that imagination of what could have/might have happened.

Fear of the unknown has always been man's deepest fear... guess the thought that this might have been something other than a planned dissapearance has me a little scared.

This is a crime forum - a message board where people have opinions and speculations. There are also sites that can be set up where people leaves messages of support, but THIS is a message board. There will always be people who want to be Coldwater and try to moderate the board. I've seen nothing you have posted that is off the wall - you've always made it clear it is just your opinion, which you are entitled to.

openminded
09-02-2009, 07:56 AM
If you ask me their is a whole lot of rumors going around and very few facts reported in this case. Something that did occur to me yesterday after looking at the map of Jones Creek Rd (which did not realize it was such a long road, their is a Jones Cr S and Jones Cr N and Jones C Lane), how is it they know for certain that she was on that Road, I mean though I don't see the b/f involved that is just not something you would normally tell someone in a conversation unless asked. I know they said she had walked that road before but I just find it hard to believe that a woman of her age would go walking on that secluded of a road, by herself, that late at night, even there. Is their not other less secluded roads she could of walked.

IIRC, early on it was mentioned that she was seen walking on Jones Creek Road by someone who either knew her or remembered seeing a woman of her description at that time (presumably before it got too dark and assuming that media report is true).

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 08:38 AM
I went back over previous news articles on this case my best research tool is this link plus re-reading reports from the ajc

http://www.crimenews2000.com/news.php

LittleDebbie
09-02-2009, 08:54 AM
Kittymom someone had asked a couple of question which I simply replied to. I only speak about things that I know first hand. If it is the truth then I should be able to say it. I worry about Krisi everyday, can't even begin to imagine what her family is going through. Hoping for good news everyday.

mitzi
09-02-2009, 08:54 AM
Wonder if Kristi met husband #3 online. One commenter said that marriage lasted 50 something days. Now she's met DD online and she's missing. The dad spoke before LE had time to check out DD's alibi. That would certainly give the dad an adverse opinion of online "meeting" dates.

For me, the possiblility that Kristi ran off own her own is more likely than DD. Being odd is a long way from being an arch criminal and he's not even odd (meaning unusual or rare) where I come from.

I don't like him and I don't trust his type but the chance that he had anything to do with this crime is remote at best. There's just noone else to focus on because everyone else has avoided the spotlight (wisely).

Husband #3 is local. I have no idea how long he has lived in the area. He was married and divorced prior to his marriage to KC, and he and the former wife lived in the area. For how long I have no idea.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:18 AM
In her post, she said she knows. I'm not sure what you want her to do...send a link who his former girlfriend was or that he doesn't have a car or the words he has spoken?



I agree Rainy...
Littledebbie states she knows DD...he has done work for her...She also states she knows other ppl in DD life.....She even said that he does great woodworking...I understand about gossip....but she didn't come on here and say...that she heard this about DD from someone who heard it from someone..etc...She came on here and told what SHE knows to be true...to me that isn't gossip....guess maybe I could be wrong...:confused:

Ms Daisy
09-02-2009, 09:21 AM
It is my opinion that law enforcement.....whether it's the Union County Sheriff's office or the GBI, makes no difference....should make a statement to the community of what they've found or have not found, purely in the interest of public safety and to possibly tamp down some fears and suspicions about what's happened to Kristi. Silence is not golden, in this case. far from it. They need to say something now.

There's no need for them to keep reiterating lack of funds and budget cuts as a reason for not either moving faster on this case or not having produced any results. We certainly don't need for potential law breakers to get the impression that we are without law enforcement protection in these mountain communities. In fact, JFTR, most people here are armed and most have LTC so it would be a mistake for anyone to think they can start 'misbehaving' (and I'm being nice about it) during this holiday weekend and get away with it.

As for me and mine, we're preparing for a family weekend together with out-of-towners from around the area and we intend to enjoy it with lots of food, music, kids, dogs, you name it.

Be safe, everybody. Ladies, keep your heads up, hang on to your pocket books :wink: and don't let the kids run off in secluded areas...like hiking trails alone

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:26 AM
It is my opinion that law enforcement.....whether it's the Union County Sheriff's office or the GBI, makes no difference....should make a statement to the community of what they've found or have not found, purely in the interest of public safety and to possibly tamp down some fears and suspicions about what's happened to Kristi. Silence is not golden, in this case. far from it. They need to say something now.

There's no need for them to keep reiterating lack of funds and budget cuts as a reason for not either moving faster on this case or not having produced any results. We certainly don't need for potential law breakers to get the impression that we are without law enforcement protection in these mountain communities. In fact, JFTR, most people here are armed and most have LTC so it would be a mistake for anyone to think they can start 'misbehaving' (and I'm being nice about it) during this holiday weekend and get away with it.

As for me and mine, we're preparing for a family weekend together with out-of-towners from around the area and we intend to enjoy it with lots of food, music, kids, dogs, you name it.

Be safe, everybody. Ladies, keep your heads up, hang on to your pocket books :wink: and don't let the kids run off in secluded areas...like hiking trails alone


Great Post Ms Daisy!
ITA LE needs to say something....

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:47 AM
Georgia Bureau of Investigation Deputy Director Russell Andrews, told members of the Seven Hills Rotary at a luncheon on Tuesday that he recently spent a week investigating the disappearance of a missing north Georgia woman in North Carolina.

“At this point we’re no closer to knowing where she is and what happened to her,” Andrews said. “We need the public’s help.”


http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director%20&id=3510411-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director&instance=home_news


If they neeed the public's help shouldn't they be having a press conference and releasing some of the pertinent information they have?

Other than the searches locals are doing on their own now, how is the public suppose to know what to look for and where based on what little confirmed information that has been released so far?

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:57 AM
http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director%20&id=3510411-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director&instance=home_news


If they neeed the public's help shouldn't they be having a press conference and releasing some of the pertinent information they have?

Other than the searches locals are doing on their own now, how is the public suppose to know what to look for and where based on what little confirmed information that has been released so far?

That is sad...really sad...they are not any closer to solving this.....
Also I have copied this part..he tells just how the GBI gets invloved in cases..I am assuming...(lol) that maybe since Blairsville is a small town they asked for GBI to help...but I also see they get invloved with computer crimes...

Most likely if the GBI gets involved in an investigation it’s because someone has specifically requested their presence, Andrews said.

Generally the governor, a police chief or sheriff, the district attorney, a judge or the fire department requests the agency to investigate a specific crime or occurrence.

“We can work in certain situations without request in certain areas,” Andrews said.

The agency has specific jurisdiction over certain crimes such as computer crimes, crimes committed on state property and in some cases drug trafficking.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:27 AM
There was a fire on Lost Forest Road on August 30. An abandoned house apparently cause of the fire unknown.

http://www.nganews.com/viewer/default.aspx

Looking at google maps this looks fairly close to Jones Creek Road, about 7 miles or so... Could somebody local confirm if that is correct?

Also does anyone know if this house was searched before the fire and if there's been any follow up articles about the investigation of the fire? I'm wondering if it was arson and if they found any evidence that somebody was in the house when it went up in flames.

NoelsMommy
09-02-2009, 11:16 AM
There was a fire on Lost Forest Road on August 30. An abandoned house apparently cause of the fire unknown.

http://www.nganews.com/viewer/default.aspx

Looking at google maps this looks fairly close to Jones Creek Road, about 7 miles or so... Could somebody local confirm if that is correct?

Also does anyone know if this house was searched before the fire and if there's been any follow up articles about the investigation of the fire? I'm wondering if it was arson and if they found any evidence that somebody was in the house when it went up in flames.

Good detective work! One would hope that the unoccupied house had been searched prior to the fire (and during the searches for Kristi) but it also would warrant searching the remains from the fire in the event that a body (heaven forbid) was dumped there. It would be a good place based on what you found out...approx. 7 miles from Jones Creek Road.

C.Hound
09-02-2009, 11:41 AM
Really.. that seems to be the opinion of most up this way if you truly are from blairsville then you must be aware of who Kristi's son's uncle is in local politics and why all this silence and lack of LE activity isn't making any sense.

Wow, it is strange that the case has gone silent given this information. Hopefully there's no reason other than the family or families are trying to keep things under wraps to protect the politician from being scrutinized if he has a solid alibi.

One thing does jump out at me though. "Samantha" has suggested in more than one post that the ex-husbands should be looked at again despite media reports stating they, along with DD, have been cleared. Ignoring the thought that she may simply be crazy, why is she trying to turn the spotlight onto the ex-husbands? The obvious answer to me is to take the focus off of DD; however, maybe there's more to it than that? Could she possibly know more than what she's letting on because she's either a member of, or a friend of, the politician's family, suspects he may be involved, but doesn't want to say so since it could be considered slander...and we all know how big she is on using that term :smile:?

Farfetched? Most likely, but I'm willing to enter her world if it helps bring Kristi home.

momof6
09-02-2009, 11:43 AM
Wonder if Kristi met husband #3 online. One commenter said that marriage lasted 50 something days. Now she's met DD online and she's missing. The dad spoke before LE had time to check out DD's alibi. That would certainly give the dad an adverse opinion of online "meeting" dates.

For me, the possiblility that Kristi ran off own her own is more likely than DD. Being odd is a long way from being an arch criminal and he's not even odd (meaning unusual or rare) where I come from.

I don't like him and I don't trust his type but the chance that he had anything to do with this crime is remote at best. There's just noone else to focus on because everyone else has avoided the spotlight (wisely).

Totally agree!

Ice Cycle
09-02-2009, 12:32 PM
IIRC, early on it was mentioned that she was seen walking on Jones Creek Road by someone who either knew her or remembered seeing a woman of her description at that time (presumably before it got too dark and assuming that media report is true).

Yes now that you mentioned that I do remember hearing something about that but I don't think that was ever confirmed. Usually in some cases it is hard to keep track which is confirmed facts or rumors but doesn't seem to apply in this one since LE has said very little except that she is missing. I just wondered what makes them so certain that she was on Jones Creek Rd but she might have been spotted.

C.Hound
09-02-2009, 12:37 PM
My bold.

In this video DD says he just met the family 2 days before the abduction. Then he says something like they didn't know who he was, but that was by design. He is shown hugging her mother in the video.

It's around 1:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen the video and found the lead statements by the reporters interesting (DD says he's not a suspect and the fact that he took, and passed, a lie detector test proves it, but GBI won't comment if he was even given one).

I don't think the man hugging Kristi's mom at around 1:38 is DD.

As for DD's comments about meeting the family, he said he met them 2 days before the abduction. If I heard it correctly, he also said that the family "didn't know who WE were but that was by design."

Who's the "we" he mentioned at approximately 1:45 minutes in the video? Could it be the mystery dinner companion and/or maybe the supposed cousin? Gagirl indicated she hadn't met Kristi, so it wouldn't have been her.

Didn't DD also say in another interview that he had walked the same route with Kristi the weekend before she was abducted? If so, it would have been the same Sunday (August 9th) he met her family. That leads me to believe he actually did take a walk and it wasn't a metaphor. It also makes me wonder if the other person(s) comprising the "we" also went with them.

It would be interesting to know if the family really met him/them before the abduction.

momof6
09-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen the video and found the lead statements by the reporters interesting (DD says he's not a suspect and the fact that he took, and passed, a lie detector test proves it, but GBI won't comment if he was even given one).

I don't think the man hugging Kristi's mom at around 1:38 is DD.

As for DD's comments about meeting the family, he said he met them 2 days before the abduction. If I heard it correctly, he also said that the family "didn't know who WE were but that was by design."

Who's the "we" he mentioned at approximately 1:45 minutes in the video? Could it be the mystery dinner companion and/or maybe the supposed cousin? Gagirl indicated she hadn't met Kristi, so it wouldn't have been her.

Didn't DD also say in another interview that he had walked the same route with Kristi the weekend before she was abducted? If so, it would have been the same Sunday (August 9th) he met her family. That leads me to believe he actually did take a walk and it wasn't a metaphor. It also makes me wonder if the other person(s) comprising the "we" also went with them.

It would be interesting to know if the family really met him/them before the abduction.

I think when he said "WE".......that he misspoke. It is hard to be on the spot and be rushed to give an answer. It could have came out wrong, because it doesn't go with the flow of the sentence. I also believe when he stated that it was "by design", he meant that he and Katie had an agreement. Just a different choice of wording it.

I didn't see anything wrong with DD's interview. He seems like a very nice man. In my opinion there is no set way to give an interview on TV. Someone will always critique it and make their own assessments. We are all individual and therefore say and do interviews differently. IMO

KittyMom
09-02-2009, 12:59 PM
Kittymom someone had asked a couple of question which I simply replied to. I only speak about things that I know first hand. If it is the truth then I should be able to say it. I worry about Krisi everyday, can't even begin to imagine what her family is going through. Hoping for good news everyday.

We only have your word that the things you speak of are true. The fact is, we have no idea of who you are, how you know the individuals involved, or if you're nothing more than an attention seeker.

One thing everyone should remember, this site and individual posters can be sued for things posted that can't be back up by fact. If you have an opinion, then, please, share it and identify if as you opinion. But if you are posting your opinion as a fact, you better retain a good lawyer. You'll need it.
:patriot:

n/t
09-02-2009, 01:02 PM
My bold.

In this video DD says he just met the family 2 days before the abduction. Then he says something like they didn't know who he was, but that was by design. He is shown hugging her mother in the video.

It's around 1:38:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

Hey need! LTNS!

Thanks for the link.

Are you sure it's him hugging the mom? It doesn't look like him. :shrug:


Interesting that he says he took and passed a poly but GBI won't even confirm if he took one. :confused:

n/t
09-02-2009, 01:04 PM
Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen the video and found the lead statements by the reporters interesting (DD says he's not a suspect and the fact that he took, and passed, a lie detector test proves it, but GBI won't comment if he was even given one).

I don't think the man hugging Kristi's mom at around 1:38 is DD.

As for DD's comments about meeting the family, he said he met them 2 days before the abduction. If I heard it correctly, he also said that the family "didn't know who WE were but that was by design."

Who's the "we" he mentioned at approximately 1:45 minutes in the video? Could it be the mystery dinner companion and/or maybe the supposed cousin? Gagirl indicated she hadn't met Kristi, so it wouldn't have been her.

Didn't DD also say in another interview that he had walked the same route with Kristi the weekend before she was abducted? If so, it would have been the same Sunday (August 9th) he met her family. That leads me to believe he actually did take a walk and it wasn't a metaphor. It also makes me wonder if the other person(s) comprising the "we" also went with them.

It would be interesting to know if the family really met him/them before the abduction.

Yes, I wish the family would confirm that. He may be getting caught up in his own lies and backtracking to make the story fit or he may be telling the truth.

mitzi
09-02-2009, 01:11 PM
Wow, it is strange that the case has gone silent given this information. Hopefully there's no reason other than the family or families are trying to keep things under wraps to protect the politician from being scrutinized if he has a solid alibi.

One thing does jump out at me though. "Samantha" has suggested in more than one post that the ex-husbands should be looked at again despite media reports stating they, along with DD, have been cleared. Ignoring the thought that she may simply be crazy, why is she trying to turn the spotlight onto the ex-husbands? The obvious answer to me is to take the focus off of DD; however, maybe there's more to it than that? Could she possibly know more than what she's letting on because she's either a member of, or a friend of, the politician's family, suspects he may be involved, but doesn't want to say so since it could be considered slander...and we all know how big she is on using that term :smile:?

Farfetched? Most likely, but I'm willing to enter her world if it helps bring Kristi home.

JMO

I've never heard anyone mention the politician, and as far as I know, I don't think anyone is very concerned about him. I think the thing that is odd in regards to him is, wouldn't you think there might be a tad more heat put on the situation because he is a Judge, and his nephew's mom is missing? This particular family sounds like they are still very close to Kristi in the few comments that have been made by her former father-in-law. I don't think the silence is due to him, just all the more unusual because of him.

Samantha does keep saying to look at the ex-husbands - which contradicts everything she has been spewing everywhere for days. If DD and the ex-husbands have all been questioned, and are not suspects, she says for everyone to lay off DD. Then turns around and says to look at the ex-husbands. I do think this is someone on a mission to try and convince anyone that will read, that DD had nothing to do with it, but is not using her own criteria when trying to throw others into the mix.

Samantha is extremely suspicious to me. She has come out of nowhere with a very obvious agenda. The only reason she has ever commented on any other aspects of this case, is because other people started to question the reason for such a rabid defense of DD. I have commented before, that I have found posts by her elsewhere that seem very strange in that she tells what route they would have taken and what route they didn't take. Very strange.

This person has posted here, True Crime report, Websleuths, Associated Content, and I am sure many others. Claims to be on these websites regularly due to her knowledge of crimes and the law after reading many true crime stories, and it being an interest for many years. I call B S on that. I've been a member here for a couple of years, only read true crime, and this is also an interest of mine. For that, I would not say I have any greater knowledge of crime or the law than most other people. And you can look back and see if I have ever posted and how long I have been a member. She showed up here out of nowhere, just as she has a WS. Even though when I called her on it, she had a story for that too.

Something that else that bothers me is she will take a little info and run with it too far. To get folks off of DD yesterday, she took a line from a post at Topix regarding multiple perps and DD having had listened to 5 minutes of the abduction situation. By the time she got it to True Crime Report, she stated that this information was "common knowledge" in the local area. So there is something up with her, and I don't think it is the normal crazy posting of a disturbed troll.

One last thing that has really stuck in my mind - how can a person who regularly visits a board like this or websleuths, etc., and is very interested in cases like this not know who Drew Peterson is???? Wow!

Curious
09-02-2009, 01:40 PM
JMO

I've never heard anyone mention the politician, and as far as I know, I don't think anyone is very concerned about him. I think the thing that is odd in regards to him is, wouldn't you think there might be a tad more heat put on the situation because he is a Judge, and his nephew's mom is missing? This particular family sounds like they are still very close to Kristi in the few comments that have been made by her former father-in-law. I don't think the silence is due to him, just all the more unusual because of him.

Samantha does keep saying to look at the ex-husbands - which contradicts everything she has been spewing everywhere for days. If DD and the ex-husbands have all been questioned, and are not suspects, she says for everyone to lay off DD. Then turns around and says to look at the ex-husbands. I do think this is someone on a mission to try and convince anyone that will read, that DD had nothing to do with it, but is not using her own criteria when trying to throw others into the mix.

Samantha is extremely suspicious to me. She has come out of nowhere with a very obvious agenda. The only reason she has ever commented on any other aspects of this case, is because other people started to question the reason for such a rabid defense of DD. I have commented before, that I have found posts by her elsewhere that seem very strange in that she tells what route they would have taken and what route they didn't take. Very strange.

This person has posted here, True Crime report, Websleuths, Associated Content, and I am sure many others. Claims to be on these websites regularly due to her knowledge of crimes and the law after reading many true crime stories, and it being an interest for many years. I call B S on that. I've been a member here for a couple of years, only read true crime, and this is also an interest of mine. For that, I would not say I have any greater knowledge of crime or the law than most other people. And you can look back and see if I have ever posted and how long I have been a member. She showed up here out of nowhere, just as she has a WS. Even though when I called her on it, she had a story for that too.

Something that else that bothers me is she will take a little info and run with it too far. To get folks off of DD yesterday, she took a line from a post at Topix regarding multiple perps and DD having had listened to 5 minutes of the abduction situation. By the time she got it to True Crime Report, she stated that this information was "common knowledge" in the local area. So there is something up with her, and I don't think it is the normal crazy posting of a disturbed troll.

One last thing that has really stuck in my mind - how can a person who regularly visits a board like this or websleuths, etc., and is very interested in cases like this not know who Drew Peterson is???? Wow!

BBM; Thank you Mitzi, my thoughts as well. Did not know who Chris Coleman was either?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13396345&highlight=Chris+Coleman#post13396345
See post #1059

just42day97
09-02-2009, 01:52 PM
Hey need! LTNS!

Thanks for the link.

Are you sure it's him hugging the mom? It doesn't look like him. :shrug:


Interesting that he says he took and passed a poly but GBI won't even confirm if he took one. :confused:

That wasn't DD hugging Kristi's Mother...JMO

when he said that her parents didn't know who "we" were..I took it to mean that the mom didn't know DD & Kristi were an item..but that is JMO...

mitzi
09-02-2009, 01:56 PM
BBM; Thank you Mitzi, my thoughts as well. Did not know who Chris Coleman was either?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13396345&highlight=Chris+Coleman#post13396345
See post #1059

That's right! I was following along when that happened, and I thought 'you've got to be kidding!!' Now that and the whole DP thing makes the true crime hobby sound utterly ridiculous!!! Almost funny! Kinda like a professional Chef whose never heard of the Food Channel!! Just doesn't happen! :rolleyes:

just42day97
09-02-2009, 02:02 PM
JMO






One last thing that has really stuck in my mind - how can a person who regularly visits a board like this or websleuths, etc., and is very interested in cases like this not know who Drew Peterson is???? Wow!

snipped for space....

Yes I nearly fell over when I read that she didn't know who DP was....
The fact that she defends DD doesn't bother me as much as the WAY she defends him...She just goes off the deep end..which to me says she has to know him. There are ppl here who post that they don't think DD had anything to do with Kristi missing..and that is cool..we all have our own thoughts...but she just carries it way far..IMO

on another Note...Littledebbie I hope you keep coming to this board...and posting...we do have a Mod here for this board...and her name is Coldwater...you can PM her at anytime if you have any questions concerning what you can and can't post...none of us who post here are the board police...don't let anyone run you away...my only suggestion would be to make sure you put IMO..or MOO...something along those lines....welcome to the board!

All of this is JMO

C.Hound
09-02-2009, 02:05 PM
I think when he said "WE".......that he misspoke. It is hard to be on the spot and be rushed to give an answer. It could have came out wrong, because it doesn't go with the flow of the sentence. I also believe when he stated that it was "by design", he meant that he and Katie had an agreement. Just a different choice of wording it.

I didn't see anything wrong with DD's interview. He seems like a very nice man. In my opinion there is no set way to give an interview on TV. Someone will always critique it and make their own assessments. We are all individual and therefore say and do interviews differently. IMO

ITA he may have mispoke, but his words also could be very telling. Unfortunately DD has said many things that are inconsistent or odd - like referring to Kristi in the past tense so soon after she was abducted. He was the last person to speak to her which automatically puts the focus on him, he has put himself in the spotlight, and he often says things that just don't make sense or may be a southern colloqualism. Does this make him guilty? No, but nonetheless his words and actions will be critiqued IMO.

C.Hound
09-02-2009, 02:08 PM
That wasn't DD hugging Kristi's Mother...JMO

when he said that her parents didn't know who "we" were..I took it to mean that the mom didn't know DD & Kristi were an item..but that is JMO...

Good point about the "we" being DD & Kristi, which would also explain why he said that it was by design. Makes sense to me! Thanks Just.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 02:14 PM
Good point about the "we" being DD & Kristi, which would also explain why he said that it was by design. Makes sense to me! Thanks Just.

Yes by that statment and others such as Kristi's BF not even knowing about DD I think maybe they met but not as a "couple"....
I was wondering...if he was there 2 days before she went missing..that could have been a sun...I wonder if anything was going on at her church sun? Like some kind of an event and DD showed up and maybe just acted like Kristi's friend...I take it as Kristi didn't want her parents, or friends to know about DD...Any locals know if anything was going on that Sun? JMO

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 02:25 PM
JMO

I've never heard anyone mention the politician, and as far as I know, I don't think anyone is very concerned about him. I think the thing that is odd in regards to him is, wouldn't you think there might be a tad more heat put on the situation because he is a Judge, and his nephew's mom is missing? This particular family sounds like they are still very close to Kristi in the few comments that have been made by her former father-in-law. I don't think the silence is due to him, just all the more unusual because of him.

Samantha does keep saying to look at the ex-husbands - which contradicts everything she has been spewing everywhere for days. If DD and the ex-husbands have all been questioned, and are not suspects, she says for everyone to lay off DD. Then turns around and says to look at the ex-husbands. I do think this is someone on a mission to try and convince anyone that will read, that DD had nothing to do with it, but is not using her own criteria when trying to throw others into the mix.

Samantha is extremely suspicious to me. She has come out of nowhere with a very obvious agenda. The only reason she has ever commented on any other aspects of this case, is because other people started to question the reason for such a rabid defense of DD. I have commented before, that I have found posts by her elsewhere that seem very strange in that she tells what route they would have taken and what route they didn't take. Very strange.

This person has posted here, True Crime report, Websleuths, Associated Content, and I am sure many others. Claims to be on these websites regularly due to her knowledge of crimes and the law after reading many true crime stories, and it being an interest for many years. I call B S on that. I've been a member here for a couple of years, only read true crime, and this is also an interest of mine. For that, I would not say I have any greater knowledge of crime or the law than most other people. And you can look back and see if I have ever posted and how long I have been a member. She showed up here out of nowhere, just as she has a WS. Even though when I called her on it, she had a story for that too.

Something that else that bothers me is she will take a little info and run with it too far. To get folks off of DD yesterday, she took a line from a post at Topix regarding multiple perps and DD having had listened to 5 minutes of the abduction situation. By the time she got it to True Crime Report, she stated that this information was "common knowledge" in the local area. So there is something up with her, and I don't think it is the normal crazy posting of a disturbed troll.

One last thing that has really stuck in my mind - how can a person who regularly visits a board like this or websleuths, etc., and is very interested in cases like this not know who Drew Peterson is???? Wow!


ITA. Great post!

I found the getaway route posts beyond bizarre. I am uncertain of the poster's gender (or gagirl's). The defend DD at all costs is a tad creepy to me.

I don't understand all the slander threats either. Stating some guy on TV seems gives off red flags or analyzing his many different stories isn't character assassination.

One thing about "samantha" for all her true crime reading, the poster still has no clue what a direct quote is; keeps insisting DD has somehow been cleared by GBI. Bankhead is not directly quoted and Samantha just cannot grasp that. :scared:

I hate that this case seems to have gone cold. Why?

LittleDebbie
09-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Thanks for welcoming me, but I think I'll just stay on the "Down Low" . You all are very insightful (IMO). Keep it real. Still waking up everyday hoping for some good news.

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 02:55 PM
I had a couple thoughts on why he was not introduced to family during their walk.

1. The parents may have been out of town.
2. If she was not divorced yet, it would not look good to have a boyfriend.
3. Maybe she wasn't quite prepared to let them know she met someone off the internet, because of her other relationships that didn't work out (ex's). She may have had to work up the courage to tell them about an internet relationship. Many people her parents age are not into that.
These are just some of the scenarios I had thought of.

Here is my problem with any of them. If this area is so small and strange cars are so noticeable, shouldn't DD have been noticed coming into or going out of the area? Very strange, IMO

ClimbingRose
09-02-2009, 03:31 PM
Kittymom someone had asked a couple of question which I simply replied to. I only speak about things that I know first hand. If it is the truth then I should be able to say it. I worry about Krisi everyday, can't even begin to imagine what her family is going through. Hoping for good news everyday.


As others who have been posting on crime boards, most of what we discuss are opinions and theories. Yes, we do tear into every article we can find. That in itself can be frustrating b/c various journalist
do write conflicting stories that leads us with less evidence than we started with.
But again, our discussions about a crime and persons involved are opinions, suggestions or ideas. At the end of your comment a simple
Just My Opinion=JMO or My Own Opinion=Moo makes it clear that your comments are just that your comments/opinions

AnniePie
09-02-2009, 03:31 PM
snipped for space....

Yes I nearly fell over when I read that she didn't know who DP was....
The fact that she defends DD doesn't bother me as much as the WAY she defends him...She just goes off the deep end..which to me says she has to know him. There are ppl here who post that they don't think DD had anything to do with Kristi missing..and that is cool..we all have our own thoughts...but she just carries it way far..IMO

on another Note...Littledebbie I hope you keep coming to this board...and posting...we do have a Mod here for this board...and her name is Coldwater...you can PM her at anytime if you have any questions concerning what you can and can't post...none of us who post here are the board police...don't let anyone run you away...my only suggestion would be to make sure you put IMO..or MOO...something along those lines....welcome to the board!All of this is JMO

Thanks for saying that, just. I wanted to earlier, but kept my mittens on my fingers. :smile:

doctor_J
09-02-2009, 03:36 PM
Husband #3 is local. I have no idea how long he has lived in the area. He was married and divorced prior to his marriage to KC, and he and the former wife lived in the area. For how long I have no idea.

OK, I thought that was husband # 2, the one whose father owns the Marathon. Hard to keep all these men straight.

Someone on another (newspaper) site claimed to be Kristi's friend and kept saying she didn't "do" drama. A woman with 3 exes, one lasting only months (or weeks) and already talking marriage to a #4 is NOT someone who doesn't "do" drama.

Just another point that makes Kristi eligible for a runaway scenario. Doesn't mean I think that happened. Just still a consideration.

doctor_J
09-02-2009, 03:40 PM
As others who have been posting on crime boards, most of what we discuss are opinions and theories. Yes, we do tear into every article we can find. That in itself can be frustrating b/c various journalist
do write conflicting stories that leads us with less evidence than we started with.
But again, our discussions about a crime and persons involved are opinions, suggestions or ideas. At the end of your comment a simple
Just My Opinion=JMO or My Own Opinion=Moo makes it clear that your comments are just that your comments/opinions

I mean no offence to CR or anyone else but just wanted to say that the whole jmo, moo, omo, etc. is NOT necessary, according to Coldwater. This has been posted many times so I won't repost her comment.

By definition, a person's comments on a MB are that person's opinion unless they are paraphrasing or quoting an opinion and post a link.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 03:52 PM
I mean no offence to CR or anyone else but just wanted to say that the whole jmo, moo, omo, etc. is NOT necessary, according to Coldwater. This has been posted many times so I won't repost her comment.

By definition, a person's comments on a MB are that person's opinion unless they are paraphrasing or quoting an opinion and post a link.


I agree Doc J...But we have some that want to come on here and talk about lawsuits etc....so to keep the peace...I try to put JMO....this is a message board...not a court of law...Just like with the newest poster, she was jumped on right away and she was sharing her own experience with DD...there are no links for that...and then it will run some off of the board who has valuable info since they do know some of the parties invloved....sometimes its like....gezzzzzzz lightn' up....lol
:thumbup:

momof6
09-02-2009, 04:06 PM
That wasn't DD hugging Kristi's Mother...JMO

when he said that her parents didn't know who "we" were..I took it to mean that the mom didn't know DD & Kristi were an item..but that is JMO...

That is a good point...That it meant they were an item.

momof6
09-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Here is my problem with any of them. If this area is so small and strange cars are so noticeable, shouldn't DD have been noticed coming into or going out of the area? Very strange, IMO

Maybe I had too much coffee today......but it seems like we are on two different topics.

I was talking about why he wasn't introduced to parents, and you are mentioning why people didn't notice strange cars.

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Maybe I had too much coffee today......but it seems like we are on two different topics.

I was talking about why he wasn't introduced to parents, and you are mentioning why people didn't notice strange cars.


I am talking about DD and his alleged trip to Blairsville. You offered possible reasons why the parents might not have met him.

How did it get by all the neighbors and friends that he was in the area walking with Kristi? No one saw or met him?

2 strange cars were spotted in the area on the night Kristi went missing, right? Why wouldn't DD's car have been spotted in the area 2 days before that if he was really there?

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 04:39 PM
Here is my problem with any of them. If this area is so small and strange cars are so noticeable, shouldn't DD have been noticed coming into or going out of the area? Very strange, IMO

If he drove out Jones creek I'm sure he was noticed.. if he drove in town not so sure we have allot of tourists and construction crews from out of town doing various building projects.

I realize allot of locals joined your message board we just want to know what happened to Kristi if you look at all the news reports althought the reporters were standing shoulder to shoulder you will realize their ears heard entirely different bits of information take the Atlanta Journal and Constution (Atlanta news Paper) they are still reporting the BF was the one that called the LE at 9:30 pm , another reporter also from Atlanta (WSBTV) standing right beside him reported Kristi's mother called at 1:30am who's right.

Ice Cycle
09-02-2009, 05:14 PM
OK, I thought that was husband # 2, the one whose father owns the Marathon. Hard to keep all these men straight.

Someone on another (newspaper) site claimed to be Kristi's friend and kept saying she didn't "do" drama. A woman with 3 exes, one lasting only months (or weeks) and already talking marriage to a #4 is NOT someone who doesn't "do" drama.

Just another point that makes Kristi eligible for a runaway scenario. Doesn't mean I think that happened. Just still a consideration.

Ok well see then I am confused also as I thought it was husband #3 who's Father owns the Marathon station.

doradoll
09-02-2009, 05:15 PM
I came by to see if there was any news. :sad:

I haven't seen anything on TV either.

I hope things are quiet for a reason.

If she did this herself, seems she would need help. She had no car of her own waiting etc.

I don't see any reason for a new boyfriend to be involved either.

The short marriage combined with new boyfriend is curious, but nobody has even talked much about that 3rd husband.

Stranger abduction seems most likely, IMO.

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 05:41 PM
HI ALL
I am confused I thought her B/F had been checked out and was not anywhere near there that night and when I saw his interview he said they had walked the same road the week before but then said he assumed it was the same route she usually walked..then he went on about this book she sent him and on and on and on..so he never met her parents he acted like they were going to marry each other and was like a happy couple so her parents NEVER met him? :confused:

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 05:45 PM
If he drove out Jones creek I'm sure he was noticed.. if he drove in town not so sure we have allot of tourists and construction crews from out of town doing various building projects.

I realize allot of locals joined your message board we just want to know what happened to Kristi if you look at all the news reports althought the reporters were standing shoulder to shoulder you will realize their ears heard entirely different bits of information take the Atlanta Journal and Constution (Atlanta news Paper) they are still reporting the BF was the one that called the LE at 9:30 pm , another reporter also from Atlanta (WSBTV) standing right beside him reported Kristi's mother called at 1:30am who's right.

BBM. I am only going by what DD reported to us through his own words. DD says he walked the same loop with Kristi the Sat before. Then DD said that he was there 2 days before, which is Sunday.

It sounds like if he was there he would have been seen IMO Maybe he was and we didn't get the memo LOL

just42day97
09-02-2009, 05:47 PM
HI ALL
I am confused I thought her B/F had been checked out and was not anywhere near there that night and when I saw his interview he said they had walked the same road the week before but then said he assumed it was the same route she usually walked..then he went on about this book she sent him and on and on and on..so he never met her parents he acted like they were going to marry each other and was like a happy couple so her parents NEVER met him? :confused:

lol..well proudmom..that bout sums it up...

this case just doesn't have a lot of leads at all...about all we know for sure is she is missing and she took a walk...
yes LE did say DD had been cleared...although some of his stories don't add up...He talks like they were about to get married and not really sure Kristi is even divorced..if she is it's not been long...Kristi's BF didn't even know about DD...
So...who knows at this point...
a little something tells me she might have left on her own...kinda reminds me a little of Mary Smith....but of course this is JMO

just42day97
09-02-2009, 05:48 PM
If he drove out Jones creek I'm sure he was noticed.. if he drove in town not so sure we have allot of tourists and construction crews from out of town doing various building projects.

I realize allot of locals joined your message board we just want to know what happened to Kristi if you look at all the news reports althought the reporters were standing shoulder to shoulder you will realize their ears heard entirely different bits of information take the Atlanta Journal and Constution (Atlanta news Paper) they are still reporting the BF was the one that called the LE at 9:30 pm , another reporter also from Atlanta (WSBTV) standing right beside him reported Kristi's mother called at 1:30am who's right.

seemsodd...do you know of any kind of event that was going on there on the 9th...(sun.) if DD was in town he might have blended in so to speak...and met the parents but didn't meet them as "Kristi's BF"..

doradoll
09-02-2009, 05:51 PM
HI ALL
I am confused I thought her B/F had been checked out and was not anywhere near there that night and when I saw his interview he said they had walked the same road the week before but then said he assumed it was the same route she usually walked..then he went on about this book she sent him and on and on and on..so he never met her parents he acted like they were going to marry each other and was like a happy couple so her parents NEVER met him? :confused:

there was an article earlier that the GBI had cleared him, but the statement was not placed in quotes by the reporter, so it is in question; we don't know wether the reporter was paraphrasing the GBI agent, or they simply left off the quotes

basically, the authorities and the family aren't saying much

I am thinking that she was quiet about her newest relationship because she wasn't quite out of the last one yet. But, who knows?

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 05:52 PM
OK, I thought that was husband # 2, the one whose father owns the Marathon. Hard to keep all these men straight.

Someone on another (newspaper) site claimed to be Kristi's friend and kept saying she didn't "do" drama. A woman with 3 exes, one lasting only months (or weeks) and already talking marriage to a #4 is NOT someone who doesn't "do" drama.

Just another point that makes Kristi eligible for a runaway scenario. Doesn't mean I think that happened. Just still a consideration.

Oh thanks doc I have been married 2 times...and I do not do drama nor do I do cheating...I did notice she used to be alot heavier do we know how her self esteem was not that I am a skinny minnie but it seems she has always had a man in her life did she use the net or any social sites...

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 05:54 PM
there was an article earlier that the GBI had cleared him, but the statement was not placed in quotes by the reporter, so it is in question; we don't know wether the reporter was paraphrasing the GBI agent, or they simply left off the quotes

basically, the authorities and the family aren't saying much

I am thinking that she was quiet about her newest relationship because she wasn't quite out of the last one yet. But, who knows?

ah ok thanks dora there has not been anything tv

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 05:59 PM
COPIED AND PASTED FROM THE CHEROKEE SCOUT MURPHY N.C. PAPER AUGUST 18, 2009 ISSUE MENTIONED ON WSB TV CHANNEL 2 A MINUTE AGO.
Sports
Story puts scare into entire family
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Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT
After relating the story of my wife’s recent running experience and the kindness of a pair of local community members regarding her safety, I thought the worst was over.

While on vacation last week, I got a call from Cherokee Scout staff writer Lizz Harold because the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was looking for me.

If that news wasn’t unsettling enough, Lizz went on to relate the story of Kristi Cornwell, who was abducted off the side of the road Aug. 11 in Blairsville. The limit of my conversation with the GBI was relating the story in last week’s column, but I understood the need for them to follow up because of the proximity and similarity of the Cornwell incident.

It shook me to hear what had happened and when I told Brigitte the story, well, if you looked up freaked out in the dictionary, there would have been a picture of her. It got even eerier when you consider that Cornwell is 38 years old, 5 foot, 5 inches with dark hair, who was out exercising. My wife is a 39 years old, 5 foot, 4 inches, with dark hair, out exercising. The book I took to the beach – Tim Green’s The First 48 – made it worse.

see SCARY, 12A

continued from page 11A

It’s about a man who is searching for his daughter, who is believed to have been kidnapped while out running.

Even though investigators have not made any official connection between Brigitte’s incident and Cornwell’s abduction, their similarities made us realize just how lucky we might have gotten that Sunday evening a couple of weeks ago.

As I write this, Cornwell is still missing, and with every day that passes, the ordeal becomes even more painful for her family. I don’t know if what Bill and Sarah Sherill saw that night will help investigators, but we can only hope that whoever is responsible is found quickly and dealt with severely.

If anything positive has come out of this experience, it has unfortunately come to me. I’m a runner who needs motivation to stay in training. Especially when it means getting my butt out of bed at 7 a.m. I have more than enough motivation now. Needless to say, Brigitte will no longer be running alone at night, or during the day if I can help it.

Mark Townsend is associate editor of the Cherokee Scout. You can reach him by phone, 837-5122; fax, 837-5832; or e-mail

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:13 PM
I found this which I believe is related to the article seemsodd just posted.


http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/21/news/doc4a8b08c3c365f829821584.txt

However, Murphy resident Sara Sherrill said that on July 26 she and her husband, Bill, were sitting on their front porch on Valley River Avenue about 9:30 p.m. – the approximate time that Cornwell was abducted on Aug. 11 – when a neighbor jogged by them alone. They saw a man walking aggressively across the street from her. He was looking at her and appeared to be stalking her. He whistled loudly at her, but she continued to run.

Sherrill said he apparently couldn’t catch her and walked rapidly back the other way. Moments later, a pickup with the man on the back of the truck came by. The man had both hands spread out, and he was looking in the direction the neighbor ran. Sherrill couldn’t see clearly into the truck cab and doesn’t know how many people were in the truck. The pickup was an older, faded, red Ford Ranger.

“It scared us both and gave us cold chills,” Sherrill said. “He was on the back of the truck like he was ready to spring.”

She described the man as tall and lanky with a scraggly look. He appeared to be in his mid-30s and had a short beard. He appeared to be at least 6 feet tall.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Has anybody local heard anything on the news about Davis being brought in for questioning?

doradoll
09-02-2009, 06:26 PM
I found this which I believe is related to the article seemsodd just posted.


http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/21/news/doc4a8b08c3c365f829821584.txt



that is the craziest article! In the paragraph before this women's statement, is the Chief saying that he has no reports of anyone being bothered while jogging.

There is definitely a failure to communicate in this county.

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 06:27 PM
I agree Doc J...But we have some that want to come on here and talk about lawsuits etc....so to keep the peace...I try to put JMO....this is a message board...not a court of law...Just like with the newest poster, she was jumped on right away and she was sharing her own experience with DD...there are no links for that...and then it will run some off of the board who has valuable info since they do know some of the parties invloved....sometimes its like....gezzzzzzz lightn' up....lol:thumbup:

my bolding

Just reading through some of the post I often think the same thing:biggrin:...it is a forum not a court of law....JMO..looks like several locals on here that is great..

doradoll
09-02-2009, 06:29 PM
Has anybody local heard anything on the news about Davis being brought in for questioning?

have you heard something new, or are you just asking in general?

I heard he said he took a LDT, so I suppose that could mean "being brought in for questioning".

Is there something new?

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 06:32 PM
Good evening all...

And thanks ladies for asking where I have been. I have been dealing with some issues pertaining to someone I care about tremendously and I think most of my focus needs to be there right now. We all go thru this and I'm just trying to do the best I can to help where I can.

I surely don't mean to post and run.. that's not my style and I didn't mean to do that last night, however, my posting time will probably limited due to what's currently happening.

To seemsodd - are you familiar with a relatively new technique that uses triangulation to identify the relative whereabouts of a perp based on CONNECTED cases? They take the known crime scenes and known disposal sites and triangulate a small area where the suspect most likely lives. It's a new technique and seems to be of moderate use. I see it being used mainly in serial killings and of course, mainly in Britain where it was developed.

This was recently used in the Jack the Ripper case and has seemed to produce a new suspect after all these years.

I could triangulate the above case, and Kristi's and others, but there is a no photobucket rule here and due to my limited time, I'm not sure exactly how I could do this all currently and devote as much time as needed. Possibly a separate thread with some current and not so current cases, that all seem possibly linked and I could work on that when time permits. I would need some help with the info gathering, as my time is currently limited. I would certainly do all google earth maps and all screen captures. And I would post those all on a blog for all to see.

I have used a similar technique in the Smiley Face Killer Gang and I have found some rather interesting items.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:33 PM
that is the craziest article! In the paragraph before this women's statement, is the Chief saying that he has no reports of anyone being bothered while jogging.

There is definitely a failure to communicate in this county.

The article doesn't state whether or not the couple who witnessed the incident called it in.
:confused:

easylivin
09-02-2009, 06:36 PM
Here is another article from the Cherokee Scout. (I looked and didn't
see it posted before, if it has been, I apologize in advane). I believe it is a letter to the editor because it says "opinion" at the top of the page. Worth reading though.

http://www.thecherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/20/opinions/doc4a8afb0348bff307721290.txt

"We must better protect ourselves

On Aug. 11, Kristi Cornwell, 38, was taking an evening walk along Jones Creek Road outside Blairsville, Ga.

According to reports, Cornwell was talking on her cell phone to her boyfriend, who lives in Atlanta. Someone reportedly pulled up to her and abducted her while her boyfriend heard it on the phone. She has not been heard from since.

Before Cornwell was abducted, an eerily similar situation happened to Associate Editor Mark Townsend’s wife, Brigitte, while she was out running one night. A man reportedly tried to run her down. When he couldn’t, he jumped into a truck and was hanging out the bed while seemingly looking for her. Townsend wrote about the experience in his column on page 11A in the Aug. 12 edition of the Cherokee Scout. The Townsends’ neighbors, Bill and Sara Sherrill, saw the situation and went to their home to check on Brigitte. She made it home safely.

We don’t know for sure if the two incidents are related, but the Georgia Bureau of Investigation spoke with Townsend and the Sherrills on Thursday evening.

Living in a small town, we sometimes take our safety for granted, which may make us easy targets for those who want to harm us.

While we don’t want to lose our small-town charm, we still must be vigilant out there and pay attention to our surroundings. If the two incidents are related, it seems the suspects are picking on women out alone who are not paying attention to their environment. Cornwell was on a cell phone, and Townsend was listening to music while running.

We certainly hope for a happy ending for Kristi Cornwell and her family. We also hope others learn from these incidents and take precautions to better protect themselves.


So I am not the only one paranoid around here now. LOL People who have been to my yard sales are dropping by anytime now and I peer out the door with the phone in my hand ready to dial 911.

Ya'll know I think there is something scarey going on here, as I mentioned before. My opinion is that they are not 'telling' us because we are all armed here. I wonder if they are afraid we will freak out and start shooting first and asking questions later. JMO

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 06:37 PM
lol..well proudmom..that bout sums it up...

this case just doesn't have a lot of leads at all...about all we know for sure is she is missing and she took a walk...
yes LE did say DD had been cleared...although some of his stories don't add up...He talks like they were about to get married and not really sure Kristi is even divorced..if she is it's not been long...Kristi's BF didn't even know about DD...
So...who knows at this point...
a little something tells me she might have left on her own...kinda reminds me a little of Mary Smith....but of course this is JMO

I thought you were going to say the runaway bride..lol..not that I am saying that is the case here but darn it I stayed up night after night with all the media coverage on Jenifer W. and she went off on her own...I hope KC did want to get away that is much better than being kidnapped I guess it has got so quite now so it does make you wonder...JMO

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:37 PM
have you heard something new, or are you just asking in general?

I heard he said he took a LDT, so I suppose that could mean "being brought in for questioning".

Is there something new?

Somebody posted elsewhere that they'd just heard he'd been brought in. Sounds like gossip and probably not accurate, but I thought I'd ask. Figured if there's any truth to it it will be picked up by the local media fairly quick.

abbygator
09-02-2009, 06:42 PM
I saw that on another board too. I live in Atlanta and have not heard anything like that happening. I went to the local news websites and didn't see anything either.

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 06:42 PM
Somebody posted elsewhere that they'd just heard he'd been brought in. Sounds like gossip and probably not accurate, but I thought I'd ask. Figured if there's any truth to it it will be picked up by the local media fairly quick.

I expect him to be re-interviewed at some point due to the nature of what he claims occured... so it could be SOP or a rumor, or another nutball stirring the pot.. Hope you are well Cheri_G

ETA - or maybe asking for clarification on previous statements.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:48 PM
I saw that on another board too. I live in Atlanta and have not heard anything like that happening. I went to the local news websites and didn't see anything either.

I've been looking around too and haven't found any mention of it from a legit source.

kelloggirl
09-02-2009, 06:49 PM
I found this which I believe is related to the article seemsodd just posted.


http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/21/news/doc4a8b08c3c365f829821584.txt



Wow, great find, Cheri_G! That is chilling. I really hope that GBI and LE now know about the incident. There is a fairly good bit amount of information provided that should help identify the man, who clearly has local access to transportation of some sort and is likely local or at least has relatives who are. Then he can be ruled out as a suspect if he is innocent, or perhaps this might help crack the case.

I continue to remain in the Stranger Abduction camp. However, I agree with most of you that Mr. Davis is a bit self-serving and could be seen as publicity-seeking and creepy. I don't think he's involved, but wouldn't rule him out 100% completely though.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:50 PM
I expect him to be re-interviewed at some point due to the nature of what he claims occured... so it could be SOP or a rumor, or another nutball stirring the pot.. Hope you are well Cheri_G

ETA - or maybe asking for clarification on previous statements.

You're right Mr. Fate, I imagine they will talk to him again probably to clarify things as you said.

If nobody local is hearing anything about this its probably just gossip run amuck or a wind up.

I'm well, thanks. Hope you are able to work out whatever is going on in your life at the moment.

aproudmom
09-02-2009, 06:51 PM
I saw that on another board too. I live in Atlanta and have not heard anything like that happening. I went to the local news websites and didn't see anything either.

I also saw it but did a search and seen nothing on any media sites...

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 06:54 PM
Wow, great find, Cheri_G! That is chilling. I really hope that GBI and LE now know about the incident. There is a fairly good bit amount of information provided that should help identify the man, who clearly has local access to transportation of some sort and is likely local or at least has relatives who are. Then he can be ruled out as a suspect if he is innocent, or perhaps this might help crack the case.

I continue to remain in the Stranger Abduction camp. However, I agree with most of you that Mr. Davis is self-serving and publicity-seeking at best, and probably creepy at worst. I don't rule him out completely though.

I came across it while I was reading around other sites. I wanted to post it earlier but the link provided wouldn't work, then the plumber showed up, lol, so it took me a while to find it then get it here.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 07:08 PM
I also saw it but did a search and seen nothing on any media sites...

I've not heard anything either...but we never hear anything anyways..lol
I just went and looked at another site I check out, and saw a posting there. Maybe a rumor now??..who knows??..but if it's true i am sure we will know later

just42day97
09-02-2009, 07:17 PM
I expect him to be re-interviewed at some point due to the nature of what he claims occured... so it could be SOP or a rumor, or another nutball stirring the pot.. Hope you are well Cheri_G

ETA - or maybe asking for clarification on previous statements.

good to see you fate...we were about to send out a search team for you!!...lol
Hope everything is ok from reading your above post...
we just miss your insight here..

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 07:20 PM
I came across it while I was reading around other sites. I wanted to post it earlier but the link provided wouldn't work, then the plumber showed up, lol, so it took me a while to find it then get it here.


do you have the link or the sentence fragmentation that was used... maybe I can find where it started..

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 07:24 PM
good to see you fate...we were about to send out a search team for you!!...lol
Hope everything is ok from reading your above post...
we just miss your insight here..

thankies just42day97 ... actually that was in reference to a member here, who brought me here...

and thanks for the nice compliment. I don't really have any more insight than many others.. but appreciate the kind words.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 07:30 PM
do you have the link or the sentence fragmentation that was used... maybe I can find where it started..

Thanks Mr. Fate but I had found it. Post #175 this page.

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Good evening all...

And thanks ladies for asking where I have been. I have been dealing with some issues pertaining to someone I care about tremendously and I think most of my focus needs to be there right now. We all go thru this and I'm just trying to do the best I can to help where I can.

I surely don't mean to post and run.. that's not my style and I didn't mean to do that last night, however, my posting time will probably limited due to what's currently happening.

To seemsodd - are you familiar with a relatively new technique that uses triangulation to identify the relative whereabouts of a perp based on CONNECTED cases? They take the known crime scenes and known disposal sites and triangulate a small area where the suspect most likely lives. It's a new technique and seems to be of moderate use. I see it being used mainly in serial killings and of course, mainly in Britain where it was developed.

This was recently used in the Jack the Ripper case and has seemed to produce a new suspect after all these years.

I could triangulate the above case, and Kristi's and others, but there is a no photobucket rule here and due to my limited time, I'm not sure exactly how I could do this all currently and devote as much time as needed. Possibly a separate thread with some current and not so current cases, that all seem possibly linked and I could work on that when time permits. I would need some help with the info gathering, as my time is currently limited. I would certainly do all google earth maps and all screen captures. And I would post those all on a blog for all to see.

I have used a similar technique in the Smiley Face Killer Gang and I have found some rather interesting items.


I understand what you are saying Mr. Fate, I too have been looking at other missing young ladies from the GBI website and the NCBI websites the two incidents we are talking about today Ms. Townsend and Kristie are both in a remote area according to google earth 30.9 miles appart 39 minutes to travel quickest route... I supose it is possible a preditor has found our small town, and our neighbors in Murphy N.C.

I have been reading and re-reading the articles in the papers covering this case and it seems these reporters have selective hearing no two have the same information in their articles. I think the most reliable evidence will be in the live interviews .

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 07:41 PM
I snipped this from the article that Cheri_G found -

Kristi Cornwell, 38, often walked along Jones Creek Road for exercise, said her first cousin, Roy Cornwell of Cherokee County. Law enforcement officials say there is evidence that she was abducted.

We don't know what evidence LE has.... not at all. It's not important that WE know, but important that LE KNOWS...

Signs of a struggle could be faked, and so can some technology... I'm not suggesting that any has been fake, just making the point that it COULD be.

Because the LE agency are not releasing anything... and the family has some sort of gag order (still don't know what that is, and it adds another layer of questions) .. It's natural to wonder what is going on here. In fact, it's human nature. Kristi is another member of the human race and she deserves to have her truth known. See, we are all members of the human race, created with the same rights, and for the GBI, FBI and local LE to just clam up is not right.

Unless this is a serial killer, I see know reason to leave everyone, including Kristi, hanging. It just doesn't make sense.

A few years ago, I heard that there were between 50 and 100 serial killer roaming the US... that number is probably low. But, let's says it's correct, I have not heard that 50 serial killers have been caught using the current techniques. So, in my opinion, the current techniques are not as effect as we see in movies like Silence of the Lambs. If they were, and silence was such a terrific tool, you could expect to see better capture / kill rates.

I also feel that trying to track serial killers through their multiple crimes is most difficult and it seems that the FBI is always two victims behind.

Most crimes are committed by someone local and known to the community, but in the instance where they are not, and it's random or unorganized.... wouldn't sharing the info be much better and possibly find someone before it makes AMW?

Track292003
09-02-2009, 07:42 PM
That wasn't DD hugging Kristi's Mother...JMO

when he said that her parents didn't know who "we" were..I took it to mean that the mom didn't know DD & Kristi were an item..but that is JMO...

That is exactly what I have thought since I heard the comment, but I'm just now getting around to adding my 2 cents' worth.

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Thanks Mr. Fate but I had found it. Post #175 this page.


I apologize for the general statement - I was referring to the Mr Davis being - ah - given another looksie by the LE...

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 07:46 PM
btw - no need to call me Mister....LOL

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 07:56 PM
I apologize for the general statement - I was referring to the Mr Davis being - ah - given another looksie by the LE...

Ah, that. It was just something somebody posted. No link to back it up. I've looked, others have looked and nothing has been found on a legit source about it. Locals apparently haven't heard anything of the sort either so I'm guessing it was just a random rumour.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 08:08 PM
Ah, that. It was just something somebody posted. No link to back it up. I've looked, others have looked and nothing has been found on a legit source about it. Locals apparently haven't heard anything of the sort either so I'm guessing it was just a random rumour.


We have plenty of gossip going around don't we?..lol we need some facts...sure wished LE would report whats happening.....
I see this case going cold...fast...But as I've said..how many times??...it reminds me of Mary's Smiths case...

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 08:22 PM
We have plenty of gossip going around don't we?..lol we need some facts...sure wished LE would report whats happening.....
I see this case going cold...fast...But as I've said..how many times??...it reminds me of Mary's Smiths case...

LOL, plenty of gossip is right! I guess it gives us stuff to discuss and explore but at this point I'd really like to hear some concrete information from LE.

I just can't figure out why, if they have nothing so far, LE isn't making more info available in hopes of jogging somebody's memory or that somebody might notice and report something that they might not necessarily find unusual in normal circumstances.

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 09:05 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:08 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.

Its being reported by the media. I just found this:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20693663/detail.html


CLEVELAND, Ga. -- A poster, offering a $100,000 reward in the case of a missing Blairsville woman, was not authorized by Kristi Cornwell’s family, her brother said.


In fact, family members said while researching the name and phone number listed on the flier, they discovered it belonged to registered sex offender Gib Williams of Towns County.

NoelsMommy
09-02-2009, 09:09 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.

HUH??? :huh:

So he put his phone number on the flier offering $100,000 reward so he could collect the $50,000 reward? I guess that means he wasn't going to pay out the $100K reward that he's offering. JMHO

ttcRider
09-02-2009, 09:13 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.

Well you had us in awe for 3 minutes anyways. :laugh:

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 09:14 PM
Its being reported by the media. I just found this:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20693663/detail.html




I'm glad it's been released that fast...I just received that info moments before I posted it..

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:15 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kristi-cornwell-129879.html


GBI agents are investigating the attempted kidnapping of a jogger one town over from where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.



“There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.


No real similarities? A woman excercising along the road alone. Similar features to Kristi. The failed attack happened at 9:30pm, around the time of night Kristi is believed to have been abducted.

What am I missing?

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:20 PM
I'm glad it's been released that fast...I just received that info moments before I posted it..

This was discovered within days of Kristi's abduction, even before the family had set up their reward fund. I'm surprised it's just coming out now.

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 09:27 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.


incarcerated in 1991 for kidnapping and sexual assault.... registered in the georgia sex offenders registry in 2008. The story said a cleveland ga. painter... he still lives in hiawassee according to their address verification march of this year.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:30 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.

Holy Crap....can't this case get any stranger??...this is just crazy!!

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:32 PM
This was discovered within days of Kristi's abduction, even before the family had set up their reward fund. I'm surprised it's just coming out now.

This info has already been known??....how long have you known?

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:36 PM
This info has already been known??....how long have you known?

Bad choice of wording on my part. I apologize. I had just found the article and was coming to post it and saw that Fate had just heard it from someone and posted it.

I watched the video that accompanied the article. They reported that it been discovered within days of Kristi's disapearance and before the family had set up their fund.

seemsodd
09-02-2009, 09:39 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kristi-cornwell-129879.html





No real similarities? A woman excercising along the road alone. Similar features to Kristi. The failed attack happened at 9:30pm, around the time of night Kristi is believed to have been abducted.

What am I missing?



Vance street Murphy N.C. is 31 miles away from the jones creek area where Kristi was walking, 2 elderly people are sitting on their front porch on a summer evening watching a lady jog by a few seconds later a man they didn't know seemed to be stalking her... if it's like most of the rumors running rampant up in this area LE has probably been told a simular story to this one at least a few other times probably found the red truck in a nearby driveway and the guy had a legitamate reason for being in the area. Just like the husband said when GBI talked to him his wife will not be jogging alone ever again....that's the fear factor crime leaves in communities not acustom to crime , I bet the phones are ringing off the hook at the LE offices 24/7. JMO.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:40 PM
Bad choice of wording on my part. I apologize. I had just found the article and was coming to post it and saw that Fate had just heard it from someone and posted it.

I watched the video that accompanied the article. They reported that it been discovered within days of Kristi's disapearance and before the family had set up their fund.

ohhhh...that makes sense...
what do you make of this new info?

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:44 PM
so it appears LE does have info that haven't released....hmmm wonder what else they have??

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 09:46 PM
This was discovered within days of Kristi's abduction, even before the family had set up their reward fund. I'm surprised it's just coming out now.

I guess you are right. Seems LE spent some time trying to set him up and "looked hard at him."

This comment from your link

It really is unbelievable that there are people in the world that will try to gain financially from this disgusting crime," said Richard Cornwell.

BBM :scared:

Is RC talking about a crime against Kristi? I don't get this case at all.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 09:48 PM
ohhhh...that makes sense...
what do you make of this new info?

According to the article GBI says there's nothing to connect him to Kristi's disappearance. I guess they must have been able to account for his where abouts that day. Apparently they think he was looking to con some money out of people.

just42day97
09-02-2009, 09:51 PM
According to the article GBI says there's nothing to connect him to Kristi's disappearance. I guess they must have been able to account for his where abouts that day. Apparently they think he was looking to con some money out of people.

ok....maybe I need to slow down and read slower...I thought he put up his own 100 grand for reward money....:confused:

mitzi
09-02-2009, 10:00 PM
Just catching up. What website was it where someone said DD had been brought back in? I know its just a rumor, but I would like to go to that site anyway.

TIA

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:00 PM
ok....maybe I need to slow down and read slower...I thought he put up his own 100 grand for reward money....:confused:

Even though its not clearly stated, I got the impression he didn't have a $100 grand.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:01 PM
Just catching up. What website was it where someone said DD had been brought back in? I know its just a rumor, but I would like to go to that site anyway.

TIA

I read it at TCR.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php

mitzi
09-02-2009, 10:05 PM
I read it at TCR.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php

Thanks Cheri!

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:12 PM
Just catching up. What website was it where someone said DD had been brought back in? I know its just a rumor, but I would like to go to that site anyway.

TIA

true crime

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:20 PM
Even though its not clearly stated, I got the impression he didn't have a $100 grand.


it really isnt' clearly stated...but called me stupid I guess...but I thought if you had a reward for something you had the moeny for the reward ready to give in case someone finds the person..
I mean for example..I had a dog one time that I had a flyer up for...I had 200.00 reward...I expected to pay that 200.00 if my dog was found..so it make NO sense to me that someone would do a reward flyer without first..contacting the family..and second not having the money to back up the reward...
and this guy didn't accept any money from the undercover guy towards the reward....
*Sratches head trying to figure this out...*:confused:

ttcRider
09-02-2009, 10:26 PM
it really isnt' clearly stated...but called me stupid I guess...but I thought if you had a reward for something you had the moeny for the reward ready to give in case someone finds the person..
I mean for example..I had a dog one time that I had a flyer up for...I had 200.00 reward...I expected to pay that 200.00 if my dog was found..so it make NO sense to me that someone would do a reward flyer without first..contacting the family..and second not having the money to back up the reward...
and this guy didn't accept any money from the undercover guy towards the reward....
*Sratches head trying to figure this out...*:confused:

scooter over, I need to sit down for this one too. :confused:

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:33 PM
scooter over, I need to sit down for this one too. :confused:

come on...I've saved room for all us!

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:41 PM
come on...I've saved room for all us!

I'll join ya too. For the life of me I can't figure out what this guy was playing at or how he was going to make money from this when he was offering money he didn't have.

Cocktails anyone?

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 10:43 PM
scooter over, I need to sit down for this one too. :confused:

Should we have a sit-in? LOL

Who you reckon is nuttier - this reward poster man or the one that tried to arrest the mayor in that diner? Should we compare them to the whole man on the mtn for days story? [color=silver]I'll sit now[/silver]

mitzi
09-02-2009, 10:44 PM
What do you folks make of the comment on this site about Kristi being held somewhere out of sight?

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:44 PM
I'll join ya too. For the life of me I can't figure out what this guy was playing at or how he was going to make money from this when he was offering money he didn't have.

Cocktails anyone?


Yeah...and for Richard to say that he was trying to gain from doing this...how was he going to gain money?...
He might have gotten some ppl to donate...but if he had it would seem like LE would have reported that with this report..
Makes no sense....
but anyways....
Hopeing for a REAL lead on Kristi

mitzi
09-02-2009, 10:46 PM
I'll join ya too. For the life of me I can't figure out what this guy was playing at or how he was going to make money from this when he was offering money he didn't have.

Cocktails anyone?

Why thank you! I'd love one! or two........

NoelsMommy
09-02-2009, 10:46 PM
it really isnt' clearly stated...but called me stupid I guess...but I thought if you had a reward for something you had the moeny for the reward ready to give in case someone finds the person..
I mean for example..I had a dog one time that I had a flyer up for...I had 200.00 reward...I expected to pay that 200.00 if my dog was found..so it make NO sense to me that someone would do a reward flyer without first..contacting the family..and second not having the money to back up the reward...
and this guy didn't accept any money from the undercover guy towards the reward....
*Sratches head trying to figure this out...*:confused:

Except for the fact (if it is a fact) that his reward flier was posted before the family's $50k reward was offered, I'm thinking as follows:

He was offering $100K for info and his phone number was on the flier in hopes that someone would come forward with the goods. He would then call in the tips he got in hopes of one of them being the one that got him the $50k...then he never planned on paying the $100k

Does that sound like why someone would do this?

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:47 PM
What do you folks make of the comment on this site about Kristi being held somewhere out of sight?

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

I'm not sure if that is hope the family is hanging on to hoping that Kristi is being held somewhere...or if they know something that is not being told..
I think we all know who follow these cases..Kristi being found alive is very slim now...it's not impossible..but slim..I pray she is being held somewhere..or left on her own...

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:49 PM
What do you folks make of the comment on this site about Kristi being held somewhere out of sight?

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

I'd seen that earlier and thought it was kind of a weird thing to say. I mean obviously if someone is holding her they have her hidden some place "out of sight" because if they hid her in sight we'd know where she was.

Cheri_G
09-02-2009, 10:51 PM
Except for the fact (if it is a fact) that his reward flier was posted before the family's $50k reward was offered, I'm thinking as follows:

He was offering $100K for info and his phone number was on the flier in hopes that someone would come forward with the goods. He would then call in the tips he got in hopes of one of them being the one that got him the $50k...then he never planned on paying the $100k

Does that sound like why someone would do this?

It makes sense, but how did he think he'd get away with it?

ttcRider
09-02-2009, 10:57 PM
Except for the fact (if it is a fact) that his reward flier was posted before the family's $50k reward was offered, I'm thinking as follows:

He was offering $100K for info and his phone number was on the flier in hopes that someone would come forward with the goods. He would then call in the tips he got in hopes of one of them being the one that got him the $50k...then he never planned on paying the $100k

Does that sound like why someone would do this?

oooooohhhhh see, I never thought of that. Nice one NoelsMommy :thumbup:

just42day97
09-02-2009, 10:59 PM
Except for the fact (if it is a fact) that his reward flier was posted before the family's $50k reward was offered, I'm thinking as follows:

He was offering $100K for info and his phone number was on the flier in hopes that someone would come forward with the goods. He would then call in the tips he got in hopes of one of them being the one that got him the $50k...then he never planned on paying the $100k

Does that sound like why someone would do this?

yes that does make better sense...strange..but I guess I could see someone trying to do this...weird...

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 11:00 PM
special confidential info as follows...but this needs to be known

A sex offender has released a $100,000 reward with HIS phone number on the flyer for Kristi.

Don't ask how I know.


BBM Don't ask, Don't tell LOL

I hope you didn't receive a note when you went your box, too!

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 11:06 PM
Except for the fact (if it is a fact) that his reward flier was posted before the family's $50k reward was offered, I'm thinking as follows:

He was offering $100K for info and his phone number was on the flier in hopes that someone would come forward with the goods. He would then call in the tips he got in hopes of one of them being the one that got him the $50k...then he never planned on paying the $100k

Does that sound like why someone would do this?

Good post. I think reward money could possibly be behind the reason for anyone to do this.

Mr FATE
09-02-2009, 11:16 PM
BBM Don't ask, Don't tell LOL

I hope you didn't receive a note when you went your box, too!

just letting you know what I learned... and there is no way this could hurt anything.... after-all, how often has a sex offender done any good in any case... just sick.

I will share something if I learn it, provided it doesn't harm anything and I trust the person telling me.

In this instant, I am writing a book for the source because he requested that I do it, so I trust that info.

HALE 2d GNAW
09-02-2009, 11:34 PM
Kristi Cornwell took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country – on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.

http://www.ajc.com/news/family-of-missing-blairsville-117175.html?cxtype=rss_news_82001


Did Kristi have a motorcycle of her own to whiz down this road? Did she have a car too?

NoelsMommy
09-02-2009, 11:41 PM
It makes sense, but how did he think he'd get away with it?

Criminals rarely think that far ahead...

Maybe he was planning on getting the heck out of Dodge with the $50k

It wouldn't get most of us very far, but for some it might.

KittyMom
09-02-2009, 11:55 PM
The Sex Offender Missing Persons Poster Guy proves just how many nut jobs there are out there ready to take advantage of any and every situation. LE has their jobs cut out for them just investigating legit leads, they don't need the crazies to deal with too. :rolleyes:

RainyNiteNTx
09-03-2009, 07:15 AM
What do you folks make of the comment on this site about Kristi being held somewhere out of sight?

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

THE FAMILY OF A MISSING GEORGIA WOMAN IS TAKING MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS.

It sounds like they are going to have to do that since it appears the case has already gone cold. LE is not putting out any additional information or scheduling any additional searches so I can see why the family has to take matters into their own hands. It is what Ed Smart had to do. I wish the family luck and I hope they have the courage to follow their own heart and gut instincts in trying to bring Kristi home.

Cheri_G
09-03-2009, 07:24 AM
http://www.ajc.com/news/family-of-missing-blairsville-117175.html?cxtype=rss_news_82001


Did Kristi have a motorcycle of her own to whiz down this road? Did she have a car too?

Good question. I remember reading that she had her motorcycle license and that she liked riding with friends but I don't recall if it was ever stated that she owned her own bike. I'd just assumed she did.

I know others have brought this up... If she did own her own bike, is it accounted for? I think it probably would have been mentioned by somebody by now if it wasn't.

I've never seen any mention about Kristi having a car, but again I just assumed she had one. She was traveling between her apartment and her parents home regularly from the sound of things, plus she had her son who lives jointly with her and his father as I understand it. Not very practical to be taking him and his stuff on a bike when moving back and forth between the two homes or to school.

Cheri_G
09-03-2009, 07:26 AM
I missed the cocktails - any possibility of some OJ with vodka this morning? (just kidding - I don't drink). I think LE should take a very LONG HARD look at this particular SO. Beyond creepy.

Mornin' Rainy,

From what the article said they did take a long hard look at this guy and came up with nothing.

RainyNiteNTx
09-03-2009, 07:42 AM
Mornin' Rainy,

From what the article said they did take a long hard look at this guy and came up with nothing.

I would look again. Sounds like it is right up there with perps "helping search" and handing out flyers.

C.Hound
09-03-2009, 10:32 AM
Has anyone read or heard if dogs were used to help determine if Kristi's scent disappeared at the scene where the struggle occurred, or would they not be helpful if she walked this route regularly?

just42day97
09-03-2009, 10:43 AM
Has anyone read or heard if dogs were used to help determine if Kristi's scent disappeared at the scene where the struggle occurred, or would they not be helpful if she walked this route regularly?

good question..I've not heard of any dogs being used....But I also know that there was a bad rain storm the night she went missing...so maybe if it rained so much the dogs might not be able to pick up a scent?? I'm not sure about that...

Ice Cycle
09-03-2009, 12:24 PM
What do you folks make of the comment on this site about Kristi being held somewhere out of sight?

http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

Hi All,
Just really looking in to see if any news. I did see that article yesterday a few places and do think it is odd that it is stated. I mean how would they even know that unless their was a ransom demand which is doubtful.