Multiple killings reported in Ga. trailer park

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Multiple killings reported in Ga. trailer park

Up to 7 dead; 2 children flown to Savannah hospital

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32608487/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[KatieLady]

Wonder if it took place in one home or several?? Hard to tell from what was written.

Just terrible......

[KittyMom]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20619433/detail.html

7 Killed At Glynn County Mobile Home Park
2 Others Critically Injured; Police Release Few Details

A 5 p.m. news conference was scheduled to provide more details.

[KittyMom]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144139&catid=3

Doering confirmed that police are not looking for suspects.

must be a domestic situation

[SaraSidle]

This is horrible. Either domestic or drugs. imo

Or both........sara

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144139&catid=3



must be a domestic situation

But in the article it states this.

"When asked if it was a murder suicide or if there was a suspect at large, Doering said he wasn't prepared to answer and urged people to take precautions. There are no suspects in custody, he said."

[W_D_1]

Among the wounded and dead, the age is from young to middle age. The youngest victims were taken to Memorial University Medical Center.

http://www.wtoctv.com/global/story.asp?s=11013277


The bodies of the dead are being sent to the GBI crime lab in Savannah. It doesn't sound like a domestic dispute, it almost sounds like it's related to the 2 other homocides. Retaliation maybe.

[GentleBreeze]

From the news conference held at 9am this morning. It seems all victims were residents of this home.

The police chief said that they have been unable to locate one family member who resides there.

Oh my.

[sofiesmom]

I was a news director on St Simons Isl. in the nineties (just a causeway away from Brunswick), and I'm surprised by this crime. In eight years, I reported on only one violent multiple murder and it was a solved cold case. Nearly all my news was political or environmental. The police reports of crime were mostly stolen yard items and terroristic threats.

Every morning, I had to go to the police stations and read the media basket of reports. I guess the more sensitive reports aren't put in the basket because we're not getting much info yet. As a decent news gatherer, I always had friends in the dept. who would give me inside information. Then we'd have a meeting about whether to report or not (usually not). I hope this story isn't dropped before we get more details. I have friends and family down there, and there not really nervous, but a little uneasy.

[GentleBreeze]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090830/ap_on_re_us/us_mobile_home_slayings

Police arrest man who reported 7 dead in Ga. home

He was a family member who came home and discovered (the victims), at least that's what he told us," Doering told reporters. "He was the one who called 911."

[GentleBreeze]

I just heard that the 8th victim has died. A 19 year old male who's three other siblings died along with his father in the home.:sad:

A younger child is still in critical condition.

[W_D_1]

I just heard that the 8th victim has died. A 19 year old male who's three other siblings died along with his father in the home.:sad:

A younger child is still in critical condition.

I saw the headline online but can't find it now.


ETA here is one link.

Seven people were found dead Saturday at a residence in the New Hope mobile home park in Brunswick, Georgia. Two others were hospitalized in critical condition, and one of them died Sunday, authorities said.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20630393/detail.html

[airportwoman]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090830/ap_on_re_us/us_mobile_home_slayings

Police arrest man who reported 7 dead in Ga. home

He was a family member who came home and discovered (the victims), at least that's what he told us," Doering told reporters. "He was the one who called 911."

I got the impression from that story that drug possession was the main reason for his arrest, but that he hasn't been ruled out as the killer.

[W_D_1]

When we asked him was the person who made the call also the person who committed the murders, he replied, "No. Why would you ask that question. I wish I could say yes."

http://www.wtoctv.com/global/story.asp?s=11016467

[SaraSidle]

I was a news director on St Simons Isl. in the nineties (just a causeway away from Brunswick), and I'm surprised by this crime. In eight years, I reported on only one violent multiple murder and it was a solved cold case. Nearly all my news was political or environmental. The police reports of crime were mostly stolen yard items and terroristic threats.

Every morning, I had to go to the police stations and read the media basket of reports. I guess the more sensitive reports aren't put in the basket because we're not getting much info yet. As a decent news gatherer, I always had friends in the dept. who would give me inside information. Then we'd have a meeting about whether to report or not (usually not). I hope this story isn't dropped before we get more details. I have friends and family down there, and there not really nervous, but a little uneasy.


I would be very nervous even though I believe it is a family thing. Too bad you are not still reporting there. sara

[Lynden1000]

I saw somewhere that they had released the name of the 19 year old victim but not his father, siblings or the other victims.

Does that mean they think the 19-year old was probably the principal target of the attack?

[GentleBreeze]

I saw somewhere that they had released the name of the 19 year old victim but not his father, siblings or the other victims.

Does that mean they think the 19-year old was probably the principal target of the attack?

I don't think so. I think they released his name because they know for sure who he is as he was alive at the time.

They will probably release the other names once an autopsy has been done on each one of them when they have properly been identified.

I heard that the one remaining live victim is a grandchild in this same family.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I got the impression from that story that drug possession was the main reason for his arrest, but that he hasn't been ruled out as the killer.

I think he has more problems than that.

It seems for some reason he denied being the one that made the 911 call and they also have him for obstruction and tampering with evidence.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-31/story/glynn_community_on_edge_as_police_search_for_clues _in_massacre_that_left

Most of the victims have been identified.

Glynn community on edge as police search for clues in massacre that left 8 dead
Police offer $25,000 reward for information in case

[Lynden1000]

Beaten to death - many while they were in their beds. How horrid. :angry:

I suspect this will turn out to revolve around drugs.

[jimbob]

Beaten to death - many while they were in their beds. How horrid. :angry:

I suspect this will turn out to revolve around drugs.


Do you think maybe the killer or killers drugged or poisened the victims prior to beating them ?
I cant quite get my head around how 9 people are attacked in one small confined space and zero escaped.
Unless of course there are multiple killers and even then they would need to be armed to subdue so many people,so why not use the weapons if that was the case..

[GentleBreeze]

Do you think maybe the killer or killers drugged or poisoned the victims prior to beating them ?
I cant quite get my head around how 9 people are attacked in one small confined space and zero escaped.
Unless of course there are multiple killers and even then they would need to be armed to subdue so many people,so why not use the weapons if that was the case..

It seems from some of the media reports that they died from being shot in the head. These leads me to believe that whomever did this came in there with weapon or weapons drawn and made all the people lay down. May have even tied and bound them and then methodically shot them in the head one by one.

Much like how Joesph Duncan did when he came into the Greone home and killed three of them before taking Dylan and Shasta which he also had bound.

Now head wounds cause a tremendous amount of blood loss so the son that came into find them could have thought they had been beaten.

imo

[KittyMom]

There was a case in FL where squatters were removed from a rental home by the owner's granddaughter. She kept an x-box that was left there. The squatter gathered a couple of buddies and some baseball bats. They went in in the middle of the night. The young lady had several friends over. They were all beat to death with the bats. The girl was dragged into the kitchen and beat so badly she didn't look human. Many of the young people worked together at the local Burger King and when they failed to show for work LE was called. The ringleader hadn't been out of prison for very long when this occurred, IIRC.

Sorry...I don't remember any names.

[jimbob]

It seems from some of the media reports that they died from being shot in the head. These leads me to believe that whomever did this came in there with weapon or weapons drawn and made all the people lay down. May have even tied and bound them and then methodically shot them in the head one by one.

Much like how Joesph Duncan did when he came into the Greone home and killed three of them before taking Dylan and Shasta which he also had bound.

Now head wounds cause a tremendous amount of blood loss so the son that came into find them could have thought they had been beaten.

imo

Thank you GB , that makes a huge difference.

[GentleBreeze]

Thank you GB , that makes a huge difference.

YW.

Yes beating them just didnt make sense. Imo, this is not going to be a large group of perps. There were too many to contain for that imo.

http://www.thebrunswicknews.com/open_access/local_news/TAPES-KJK-08312009

Toler died from brain injuries resulting from gunshot wounds, according to a spokesperson for Memorial University Medical Center in Savannah. His body has been sent to the Georgia Crime Laboratory in Savannah for an autopsy. There was no public report of what type of firearm was used.

A ninth victim of the shooting, reportedly a juvenile, remained in critical condition Sunday night in Savannah.

[lune3]

It's said in this article that the 19year old, Michael Toler, had Downs Syndrome. If that's true, it's more unlikely he would have been the target of the attack I think.
I've been wondering why Heinze would place a 911 call if two people were still alive and could identify him.
I don't know what to think about Heinze, and question what the "tampering" means.

http://news.aol.com/article/georgia-mobile-home-murders/646401?icid=main|main|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fgeorgia-mobile-home-murders%2F646401

[Lynden1000]

There was a case in FL where squatters were removed from a rental home by the owner's granddaughter. She kept an x-box that was left there. The squatter gathered a couple of buddies and some baseball bats. They went in in the middle of the night. The young lady had several friends over. They were all beat to death with the bats. The girl was dragged into the kitchen and beat so badly she didn't look human. Many of the young people worked together at the local Burger King and when they failed to show for work LE was called. The ringleader hadn't been out of prison for very long when this occurred, IIRC.

Sorry...I don't remember any names.

That happened in Deland, Florida, and has disturbed me more than any other case in recent history, in part because the community is close to me but also because it was just so animalistic. The poor girl had the X-box and some of the perp's other possessions in a cardboard box, ready for him to pick up, but because he didn't get them at the very second that he wanted them, he decided to just slaughter people. I know it sounds terrible but I can't wait to see him executed.

[Lynden1000]

It seems from some of the media reports that they died from being shot in the head. These leads me to believe that whomever did this came in there with weapon or weapons drawn and made all the people lay down. May have even tied and bound them and then methodically shot them in the head one by one.

Much like how Joesph Duncan did when he came into the Greone home and killed three of them before taking Dylan and Shasta which he also had bound.

Now head wounds cause a tremendous amount of blood loss so the son that came into find them could have thought they had been beaten.

imo

That makes sense. Although now I'm going to wonder about neighbors hearing gunshots. Mobile home communities are usually pretty tight quarters. I'm hoping someone heard shots and peeked out a window.

[GentleBreeze]

That makes sense. Although now I'm going to wonder about neighbors hearing gunshots. Mobile home communities are usually pretty tight quarters. I'm hoping someone heard shots and peeked out a window.

I think it is normal that so many question that in these type of cases but it seems that many times gunshots aren't heard. Beth Karas has talked about that through the years and even said people can live right next door in an apartment complex but did not hear the multiple shots. I think there are variables to explain that. I am not sure how close these mobile home lots were. I have seen a picture of the home but not of the area around it. I don't believe that a shotgun was used though because it makes such a loud boom when fired and to be fired this many times I DO believe that someone would have heard it in the neighborhood. LE has said now that they have narrowed the time of death from what they first had. I guess at the time the ME at the scene probably thought it was in a 12 hour window but the PC said they have narrowed it down to around 6 hours before 911 was called.

So it was probably a handgun(s). If the gun is fired right up at the head with it touching the skull that closeness lets the head absorb some of the sound. They may have had something that muffled the sound too.

I believe one of the neighbors did say they heard something but didn't equate it with gunshots.


imo

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.thebrunswicknews.com/open_access/local_news/TAPES-KJK-08312009

3-year-old survivor of trailer massacre improving

8/31/2009

By MARY STARR and NEVIN BATIWALLA The Brunswick News

Three-year-old Byron Jimmerson, the lone survivor of Saturday's mass killing at a north Glynn County trailer park, is improving in a Savannah hospital, according to relatives of the victims. The child is still in the hospital but "is doing better," said Alva Cross, 46.

Cross, who is the sister of Russell "Rusty" Toler, said her brother was among those killed in the trailer park massacre. Rusty, 45, is the grandfather of Jimmerson and the father of Michael Toler, 19, who is the only fatality identified publicly by police, Cross said.

In the 911 call made by Guy Heinze, who discovered the bodies, he mentiond Rusty as one of the victims.

A Toler family relief fund has been set up through Southeastern Bank, Cross said.

Glynn County police released audio Monday of the 911 call Saturday morning of callers reporting a mass killing in a trailer at New Hope Plantation mobile home park.

Heinze, who police said was an immediate family member of at least one of the victims, was being held without bond in the Glynn County Detention Center and was said to be cooperating with police.

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-31/story/8_dead_in_glynn_county_massacre_near_brunswick_911 _calls_have_been_relea

He is accused of removing a shotgun from the home and putting it into the the trunk of his car. He also is accused of giving investigators bogus information about his whereabouts Friday evening, according to the arrest warrant filed late today.

Police have not linked Heinze to the deaths, but have not ruled him out. He is scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday.

The first person to call 911 was a neighbor, Margaret Orlinski, who told a dispatcher that Guy Heinze Jr. had come to her trailer frantically talking about his discovery.

"Guy just came home. His whole family’s dead. He’s kind of hysterical. I can’t understand. I haven’t gone over there yet," Orlinski said.

Heinze eventually takes the phone and tells the dispatcher about the bodies and that at least some of the victims appeared beaten. A short time later, a maintenance man named Mike gets on the phone as Heinze goes back into the crime scene. Heinze then told the man he'd found his cousins still breathing.

[KittyMom]

I doubt Heinze is the perp.

1. Why call LE if you've just killed your family and then report that a couple of them are still breathing?

2. He described the injuries as looking like they were beaten. The one victim has been reported to have a shotgun blast to the face. I've heard LE describe victims shot in the face as looking like they were beaten. I don't think he knew how they were injured.

[KittyMom]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20645700/detail.html

At a news conference Monday afternoon, Doering released little new information, other than the fact that the FBI and U.S. Marshal's Service were brought in to assist local and state agencies and the search for physical evidence expanded to a "large scale evidence recovery" operation.

Glynn County Police Chief Matt Doering has not released any other names, but Channel 4 has put together a list of victims from neighbors and other sources:
Rusty Toler Sr., Rusty Toler Jr., Brenda Toler, 15-year-old Michelle Toler, along with Chrissy (last name unknown), her child and her boyfriend, Joe (last name unknown).

[forensicpsy~]

This is so tragic. :sad:

Does anyone else remember the Alday family murders? They also occured in a trailer in Georgia in 1973. At the time Jimmy Carter said it was the worst crime in Georgia history.

http://law.ga.gov/00/press/detail/0,2668,87670814_88948796_88950628,00.html

[KittyMom]

This is so tragic. :sad:

Does anyone else remember the Alday family murders? They also occured in a trailer in Georgia in 1973. At the time Jimmy Carter said it was the worst crime in Georgia history.

http://law.ga.gov/00/press/detail/0,2668,87670814_88948796_88950628,00.html

I remember. That was a real horror. :sad:

[KittyMom]

If you listen to the 911 call from the Park Manager she raises a very interesting question. Apparently, the family kept a dog known for biting on the porch. She asks, "If the dog was there, how did they get in?" They meaning perps. hmmmm... The first lady that called 911 told the operator that the dog was normally gentle but that he would bite if he didn't like a person.

[KittyMom]

http://www2.wsav.com/sav/news/local/article/mystery_surrounds_murder_of_8_in_glynn_county/42690/

A neighbor of the family who does not want to be identified tells News 3 that Michael Toler, 19, had Down syndrome. “He had been through multiple surgeries throughout his short life… He was loud at times, very boisterous and always smiling. He loved to go fishing with his dad,“ said the neighbor.

Glynn County Coroner Jimmy Durden tells News 3 all the victims were found in beds and on the floor of the home and had been there overnight before they were discovered.

Its a wonder that Michael and the 3 yr old girl were still breathing. I pray the baby makes it. It takes a cold heart to kill a mentally challenged person or a baby.

[KittyMom]

http://savannahnow.com/node/775830
Son of Brunswick slaying victim grieves while jailed

Heinze Jr.'s attorney told Morris News Service his client is grieving as he sits behind bars. "He's deeply saddened, distraught and upset over it," Ron Harrison said.

Ironically, there was to have been a court hearing today on an eviction action against Rusty Toler.

"We had to evict him because he had too many people in that mobile home," and owed some back rent, Iannicelli said.

[Marcia3]

http://savannahnow.com/node/775830
Son of Brunswick slaying victim grieves while jailed

I don't believe in coincidence when it comes to murder, and the fact that there was to be an eviction hearing just days after the mass murders, makes my hinky meter go off. I don't want to think that anyone in the family was involved, but...

All JMO, of course, and subject to change with new information.

[GentleBreeze]

This is so tragic. :sad:

Does anyone else remember the Alday family murders? They also occured in a trailer in Georgia in 1973. At the time Jimmy Carter said it was the worst crime in Georgia history.

http://law.ga.gov/00/press/detail/0,2668,87670814_88948796_88950628,00.html

Absolutely horrific.

Every person's worse nightmare.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I doubt Heinze is the perp.

1. Why call LE if you've just killed your family and then report that a couple of them are still breathing?

2. He described the injuries as looking like they were beaten. The one victim has been reported to have a shotgun blast to the face. I've heard LE describe victims shot in the face as looking like they were beaten. I don't think he knew how they were injured.

But that is just it, Kitty. Wasn't it the 911 operator that told him to go back in the home and check and see if they were breathing? He couldn't very well tell them they weren't when he knew the EMTs were going to arrive there and find out they were.

These people were from the south. I do think he would know how someone looked if they had been shot in the face with a shotgun and yes it does look like they have been beaten to a bloody pulp.

I don't know if this guy is guilty or not. I really hope not but removing a shotgun and placing it in the trunk is just hinky to me. If he was trying to say he needed it because he feared the "killers" may return then why didn't he make it accessible to him to get instead of locked away concealed in a trunk?

And how could he even think about retrieving a weapon at that time when his home was filled with bloody bodies of his loved one? Why automatically lie to LE about his whereabouts if he had nothing whatsoever to do with this?

Where was he really at around midnight or two in the morning? LE has said they have narrowed the time of death down to around then. And where was he all those hours before he called 911?

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I wonder if the gun he took is the one used in the killings - or if it's an illegal gun to own so he just reflexively hid it? I wonder who the father is of the little child who survived -

I hadn't heard that it was a shotgun before reading Kitty's post but strange that he took a shotgun if that is the weapon that was used.

It would only be illegal to own a long gun if the owner had a felony record prohibiting the ownership of any firearm. If it was his father's or the other man's why would he take it though. LE couldn't bring charges against them if it was theirs.:confused:


imo

[KittyMom]

But that is just it, Kitty. Wasn't it the 911 operator that told him to go back in the home and check and see if they were breathing? He couldn't very well tell them they weren't when he knew the EMTs were going to arrive there and find out they were.

These people were from the south. I do think he would know how someone looked if they had been shot in the face with a shotgun and yes it does look like they have been beaten to a bloody pulp.

I don't know if this guy is guilty or not. I really hope not but removing a shotgun and placing it in the trunk is just hinky to me. If he was trying to say he needed it because he feared the "killers" may return then why didn't he make it accessible to him to get instead of locked away concealed in a trunk?

And how could he even think about retrieving a weapon at that time when his home was filled with bloody bodies of his loved one? Why automatically lie to LE about his whereabouts if he had nothing whatsoever to do with this?

Where was he really at around midnight or two in the morning? LE has said they have narrowed the time of death down to around then. And where was he all those hours before he called 911?

imo

Actually, several times the 911 operator was telling the persons on the line not to go into the home. But, there was a dog they were trying to remove from the porch so that LE/EMT could attend the victims. I'm not sure what prompted Heinze to go into the home. Maybe he heard Michael make a noise? It was horrible to hear him say that Michael has DS and its hard for him to talk when the operator told him to ask Michael where he hurt. And then for Heinze to say, he couldn't talk but he was breathing. Poor Michael was probably so scared. WOW

As for knowing what a person shot in the face would look like...I've lived around guns all my life. I've seen all sort of game shot with all types of guns. I wouldn't know that a person shot in the face would look beaten without having run across that information by following crime cases.

Why remove the gun...I'm thinking that more than more person in that home has a record and Heinze probably is in the habit of hiding items from LE...guns, drugs, etc.

I've listened to the tapes over and over. Heinze's horror and grief seem genuine to me.

[KittyMom]

Wanted to add....Heinze didn't sound exactly sober to me in the tapes. I'm thinking he was either drunk or high.

[KittyMom]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20663543/detail.html

Chief Plays Mobile Home Slayings Close To Vest

Police Chief Matt Doering was in charge during the Christopher Barrios case. He always impressed me with how his dept didn't have leaks of info. We won't know any details with this case until Doering is ready to give them.

[GentleBreeze]

Kitty, what would be interesting to know is if the maintenance man who was standing right out side of the trailer saw Heinz Jr. removing the shotgun and putting it in the car. I don't think LE would have charged him if he was only trying to protect the evidence..ie gun.

The PC has said that the shootings took place around 6 to 8 hours before 911 call was placed so if the alibi that he gave is false and he gave false statements to police and they cant establish even now where he was during this time then it leaves opportunities for him.

I think we have all heard terrible 911 calls before that turned out to be nothing more than a very good act.

I did notice in the 911 calls how many times he stressed he had just got home.

Now if this family were major drug dealers and Heinz Jr. was the ringleader then I can understand somewhat why he thought he might need a gun although a shotgun is not a weapon of choice to drug dealers who usually carries large caliber handguns.

If they were killed with a shotgun this tends to make me think it was more of an inner domestic dispute among family members.

When any prey is shot too close with a shotgun it does look like the it as been beaten to a bloody pulp. It crushes and slpinters bones just like a bludgeoning weapon does.

imo

[Marcia3]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20663543/detail.html

Chief Plays Mobile Home Slayings Close To Vest

Police Chief Matt Doering was in charge during the Christopher Barrios case. He always impressed me with how his dept didn't have leaks of info. We won't know any details with this case until Doering is ready to give them.

I didn't make that connection between Doering and the Barrios case. I remember being impressed with the handling of that case.

Doering has seen some sick and twisted stuff...I do not envy him.

[KittyMom]

http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/heinzearrestwarrant90109.pdf

Guy Heinze, Jr arrest warrant

He put the shotgun in the trunk and had drugs in the car. I'll bet someone, the maintenance guy, neighbor, or park manager saw him hide the gun.

[fastpitch]

But, he is being held without bond. I can't get past that.

Remember those murders in Bonaparte, Iowa, 2 years ago. That son killed his mom, dad, and 3 sisters - and was originally picked up on a marijuana charge.

[Marcia3]

But, he is being held without bond. I can't get past that.

Remember those murders in Bonaparte, Iowa, 2 years ago. That son killed his mom, dad, and 3 sisters - and was originally picked up on a marijuana charge.

I remember that 911 call that got cut off...one of his sisters called for help after he had already shot up most of the family. What did they determine the motive to be, do you remember? I think it was the family money and/or business.

If this is a family-involved crime, my thought is that either a drug deal went terribly wrong, or the looming eviction hearing with the landlord pushed someone over the edge. JMO of course.

[KittyMom]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20663543/detail.html#

http://www.news4jax.com/2009/0901/20672740_400X150.jpg
photos of Chrissy Toler, Russell Toler Jr. and Joseph West.

Interestingly, the photos look like mugshots.

[KittyMom]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gh6st3GvZOSuNt_NvlGZEbPyFhhAD9AETKSO1

8 people slain in Ga. were 'good country folks'

:crying:

[KittyMom]

The bond hearing for Guy Heinze, Jr will be Wednesday at 9:30am at the Glynn County Courthouse.

[KittyMom]

I have to wonder if he has been held this long before going before a judge for his own protection. :confused:

[LILMANMAX]

Did this guy just go crazy on drugs or something? :confused:

I can't help but thinks he holds or is the key to this case. JMO

[2Hope4]

How horrific! Oh those poor families. Gosh I hope they find the person or persons responsible for this! To murder anyone is beyond my thinking, but to murder a downs syndrome person, and the small kids... WHY???? :sad:

[openminded]

http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/20663543/detail.html#

http://www.news4jax.com/2009/0901/20672740_400X150.jpg
photos of Chrissy Toler, Russell Toler Jr. and Joseph West.

Interestingly, the photos look like mugshots.

Yes, that is interesting. Not a good sign.

[dgfred]

I have to wonder if he has been held this long before going before a judge for his own protection. :confused:

Or waiting to pile on more charges.

[KittyMom]

http://www2.wsav.com/sav/news/local/article/young_man_who_says_he_found_his_family_murdered_ge ts_bond/43244/

Young man who says he found his family murdered gets bond

The amount of bond was agreed upon buy defense attorneys, prosecutors and police detectives investigating case. There’s no word yet on whether Heinze, Jr., will actually be able to make bond or whether anyone he knows will be putting up the bail for him.

[KittyMom]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144321&catid=3

Guy Heinze, Jr. Bond Hearing this Morning

Guy Heinze, Jr. had his bond hearing before a judge, and learned he is now being held on $20,000 bond.

The judge told Heinze that if he makes bail, he will be under house arrest, meaning he can only leave home to go to work, and he must wear an ankle monitor at all times.

Heinze will also be subjected to routine drug testing.

[fastpitch]

So, he would only need 10% of that. Right?

[KittyMom]

So, he would only need 10% of that. Right?

yep. But, he'd have to had someone willing to house him. I'm not sure if he has any other family in the area.

[KittyMom]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gh6st3GvZOSuNt_NvlGZEbPyFhhAD9AF9O8O0

The judge ordered the 22-year-old Heinze placed under house arrest with an ankle monitor. It was uncertain where Heinze would serve his house arrest since he was living in the mobile home where his relatives were found dead Saturday.

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gh6st3GvZOSuNt_NvlGZEbPyFhhAD9AF9O8O0

On the 911 call he says he has to call his brother. So surely he will stay with him if he can come up with the bail money.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.thebrunswicknews.com/open_access/local_news/MURDER-090309

Police: Killings not gang related

9/3/2009

Glynn County police are ruling out a gang connection in the slaying of eight people Saturday at a mobile home park, as bond was set Wednesday for the frantic caller who reported the chilling crime scene to the 911 Center.

Police Chief Matt Doering said Wednesday that detectives are making progress in the investigation of the murder of eight persons and wounding of a child in a trailer at Lot 147 at New Hope Plantation, in north Glynn County.

Police had not officially said how the eight were killed, though an official close to the investigation told The News they had been shot.

"We're still collecting evidence at the crime scene," Doering said, adding that some of the physical evidence collected has been sent to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation Crime Laboratory in Savannah. "The analysis of evidence is progressing, but there's nothing substantial to report."

[Heidi J.]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/default.aspx

Guy Heinze, Jr. Arrested on Eight Counts of Murder Article Comments (18)

GLYNN COUNTY, GA -- Glynn County Police have arrested Guy Heinze, Jr., for eight counts of murder in the first degree.

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/default.aspx

Guy Heinze, Jr. Arrested on Eight Counts of Murder Article Comments (18)

GLYNN COUNTY, GA -- Glynn County Police have arrested Guy Heinze, Jr., for eight counts of murder in the first degree.

Thank you.

I suspected it was him all along.

I feel so sorry for this family who will have to face that one of their own is the one who destroyed so many lives.

imo

[Heidi J.]

Thank you.

I suspected it was him all along.

I feel so sorry for this family who will have to face that one of their own is the one who destroyed so many lives.

imo

You are right..

:crying:

[LILMANMAX]

I am glad they have arrested him. Something just not 'jive' about his story. JMO

It is heartbreaking for the family. :rose:

[GentleBreeze]

I am glad they have arrested him. Something just not 'jive' about his story. JMO

It is heartbreaking for the family. :rose:

If they find out the motive it will be just as senseless as the killings themselves, imo.

imo

[KittyMom]

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/man-who-called-911-131748.html

Man who called 911 charged with mobile home deaths

"It's my understanding that there was physical and testimonial evidence," said Glynn County police spokeswoman Candice Temple, who declined further comment. Authorities were holding a news conference later Friday night.




WOW...I'm floored. I really fell for his act on the phone. I'm totally surprised.

[KittyMom]

http://www2.wsav.com/sav/news/local/article/guy_heinze_jr._8_counts_of_first_degree_murder_in_ glynn_county_mass_murder/43903/

Guy Heinze Jr.: 8 Counts of First Degree Murder in Glynn County Mass Murders

the news conference, Doerring said law enforcement received two pieces of information Friday that led them to re-arrest Heinze Jr. but he cannot comment on any specific information/evidence that led to the arrest.

A news release on the Glynn County Police web site indicates the arrest was made both on physical and, what they term, testimonial evidence.

[KittyMom]

http://police.glynncounty-ga.org/forum/uploads/twright/files/2009-09-04_173131_Heinze_Arrested_on_Murder_Warrants.pdf

Press release from LE

[GentleBreeze]

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/09/one-month-later-still-few-answ.html

One Month Later, Still Few Answers to Brunswick Massacre Questions

Glynn County Police Chief Matt Doering is still hearing a lot of questions about the beating deaths of eight people inside a Brunsick-area mobile home last month. Even his children's teachers have tried finding out new information from the lawman. "And they get my same response," Doering says. "Right now what's important here that you need to know is we have the right person. We've got the only person. And we've got all the evidence to prove he did it."[/B
]
Guy Heinze, Jr., 22, has been indicted on eight first degree murder charges for beating to death members of his family and a family friend.

[B]A 3-year-old boy was also attacked, and a month later, the sole survivor is still listed in critical condition at a Savannah hospital.