8/28 thru 8/31 Discussion

[Cheri_G]

Mornin' All

No new news this morning. I read the links C. Hound provided last night about the bodies found in the Cordele area. The picture of the burned SUV does look like it may have been white.

Maybe this is related to Kristi's case? They are reporting an arrest will be made soon.

[Pomme]

Praying that it's not Kristi. What a nightmare. And why? What would the motive be? Was she a witness to something?

[RainyNiteNTx]

Mornin' All

No new news this morning. I read the links C. Hound provided last night about the bodies found in the Cordele area. The picture of the burned SUV does look like it may have been white.

Maybe this is related to Kristi's case? They are reporting an arrest will be made soon.

Morning Cheri - I read it also and am hoping this is completely unrelated....should we bring that link over to today's thread?

[ClimbingRose]

Good Morning All,

I really hate to hear about the burned SUV that was discovered. That may explain why the Cornwell family has now asked for some privacy. There's been so many peculiar aspects to Kristi's disappearance.

[Cheri_G]

Morning Cheri - I read it also and am hoping this is completely unrelated....should we bring that link over to today's thread?

Mornin' Rainy,

Here's the links C. Hound posted last night and a few more:

Second body discovered in same Crisp Co. field
http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=11004492

Picture of burned SUV
http://www.cordeledispatch.com/

Foul play suspected in burned body case
http://www.cordeledispatch.com/local/local_story_238195016.html

Another Body
http://www.cordeledispatch.com/local/local_story_239111522.html

Body A Man
http://www.cordeledispatch.com/local/local_story_239113619.html

[ClimbingRose]

Finally catching up from yesterdays posts. And like the rest of you appreciate Seemsodd coming on and sharing what the locals are feeling. Something from the articles about the murder victim's cause of death was not from the fire leads me to think the scene around the burned suv contains a large amount of evidence.

It's also good to hear that the local community also find DD's behavior suspect.

[openminded]

Mornin' All

No new news this morning. I read the links C. Hound provided last night about the bodies found in the Cordele area. The picture of the burned SUV does look like it may have been white.

Maybe this is related to Kristi's case? They are reporting an arrest will be made soon.

Looking at the location of Cordele, that's on the I-75 corridor to Florida in Middle Georgia, and a long way from Blairsville. I-75 also goes near/through Dalton to the north, which is where I think Kristi was in school.

Blairsville is located in the middle of the two interstate corridors (I-75 and I-85) so you would have to travel either west to get to I-75 or east to get to I-85. Or you could take Georgia 400 to Atlanta and pick up I-75 there if you were headed toward Florida.

[mitzi]

Looking at the location of Cordele, that's on the I-75 corridor to Florida in Middle Georgia, and a long way from Blairsville. I-75 also goes near/through Dalton to the north, which is where I think Kristi was in school.

Blairsville is located in the middle of the two interstate corridors (I-75 and I-85) so you would have to travel either west to get to I-75 or east to get to I-85. Or you could take Georgia 400 to Atlanta and pick up I-75 there if you were headed toward Florida.

If you are in Blairsville and get on Highway 515 going south, that highway runs all the way down and merges into I-75 south in Kennesaw/Cobb County. (515 changes names to 575 down around Jasper, but still continues on south)

I think someone said earlier that her parents house was 1/10 of a mile from the Kate's Marathon. Kate's is on the corner of 515, so the highway was close. Although, that doesn't explain the phone being found a little further north on 325.

[Cheri_G]

If you are in Blairsville and get on Highway 515 going south, that highway runs all the way down and merges into I-75 south in Kennesaw/Cobb County. (515 changes names to 575 down around Jasper, but still continues on south)

I think someone said earlier that her parents house was 1/10 of a mile from the Kate's Marathon. Kate's is on the corner of 515, so the highway was close. Although, that doesn't explain the phone being found a little further north on 325.

White SUV's are common enough that I think odds favor that the two crimes are unrelated. But IF they are, then there's atleast a couple possible explanations regarding the phone being found to the north.

IIRC, GBI was in the area investigating a murder that happened that same night (maybe somebody can refresh my memory). I'm not sure where that crime location was in relation to where Kristi is believed to have been abducted but maybe the police presence caused the perp(s) to change direction after the phone was dumped.

Or... the phone dump was a deliberate attempt to lead LE in the wrong direction.

[just42day97]

White SUV's are common enough that I think odds favor that the two crimes are unrelated. But IF they are, then there's atleast a couple possible explanations regarding the phone being found to the north.

IIRC, GBI was in the area investigating a murder that happened that same night (maybe somebody can refresh my memory). I'm not sure where that crime location was in relation to where Kristi is believed to have been abducted but maybe the police presence caused the perp(s) to change direction after the phone was dumped.

Or... the phone dump was a deliberate attempt to lead LE in the wrong direction.


There was a murder the same night...I think about 2 hours after Kristi was abducted...and they arrested the persons involved

[n/t]

Good Morning and thanks for the updates.

So total of 3 bodies were found? One so badly burned that it was unrecognizable. How sad. :sad:

[Ms Daisy]

Good Morning and thanks for the updates.

So total of 3 bodies were found? One so badly burned that it was unrecognizable. How sad. :sad:

No, there are only 2 bodies. One, they can't yet tell whether it's male or female.

Keep your fingers crossed it isn't Kristi.

[Ms Daisy]

Good Morning All,

I really hate to hear about the burned SUV that was discovered. That may explain why the Cornwell family has now asked for some privacy. There's been so many peculiar aspects to Kristi's disappearance.

Hi CR, we live a short distance from Blairsville. Even so, while not as close as some posters, it's enough to make us go back several times to double check the locks before going to bed. And we already have a security system w/a few newly installed outside cameras.

The whole thing makes one ill at ease. We double check everything....just to be sure. I can only imagine what Kristi's family is dealing with in fear alone.

Goodness, it just makes you sick

[Jobell]

They have made an arrest : I just don't think this is Kristi....
http://www.cordeledispatch.com/local/local_story_240094512.html

[Cheri_G]

There was a murder the same night...I think about 2 hours after Kristi was abducted...and they arrested the persons involved

I thought the murder had happened before Kristi was abducted because I had read this:

http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-items-114119.html

Davis, 53, immediately called the Union County Sheriff’s Department, Bankhead said. When the call came in at 9:20 p.m. Tuesday, GBI officials were already in Union County investigating a homicide, resulting from a domestic dispute.

It had stuck in my mind because I figured there must have been a lot of LE in the area and was surprised that somebody who presumably didn't want to be caught would take such a big risk.

[mitzi]

Hi CR, we live a short distance from Blairsville. Even so, while not as close as some posters, it's enough to make us go back several times to double check the locks before going to bed. And we already have a security system w/a few newly installed outside cameras.

The whole thing makes one ill at ease. We double check everything....just to be sure. I can only imagine what Kristi's family is dealing with in fear alone.

Goodness, it just makes you sick

Ms Daisy, it sure does make you much more aware of locks and strange cars etc. I'm about 45 min away, but I have several family members up the road in Blairsville. They all have a whole new outlook on locks, alarms, etc. It's so sad to see things go this way.
I like the camera idea - going to look into that.

[just42day97]

I thought the murder had happened before Kristi was abducted because I had read this:

http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-items-114119.html



It had stuck in my mind because I figured there must have been a lot of LE in the area and was surprised that somebody who presumably didn't want to be caught would take such a big risk.

Hmmm...that is strange...I read earlier in this week and it said the murders happened around midnight...after she was taken...let me see if I can find that link...maybe the one I read mis quoted....

[Ice Cycle]

G Morning,
I haven't had a chance to read the links provided about the fire and victims, but what makes anyone think this have to do with Kristi?
Anyone know?

[just42day97]

I thought the murder had happened before Kristi was abducted because I had read this:

http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-items-114119.html



It had stuck in my mind because I figured there must have been a lot of LE in the area and was surprised that somebody who presumably didn't want to be caught would take such a big risk.

This link has both the murder and Kristi on the front page..
It says the murder happened on Aug 12th right after midnight and Kristi went missing on Aug 11 around 9:30....maybe this report is wrong...but it's where I got my info

http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=150657&MemberID=1281

[Ms Daisy]

Ms Daisy, it sure does make you much more aware of locks and strange cars etc. I'm about 45 min away, but I have several family members up the road in Blairsville. They all have a whole new outlook on locks, alarms, etc. It's so sad to see things go this way.
I like the camera idea - going to look into that.

Mitzi, you'll really appreciate those cameras. They've become fairly common in residential installations. Not only can you view them from your TV inside but also remotely on your computer when you're out of town.

While renovating our house (which has gone one FOREVER) we realized how many blind spots and isolated areas we had created that couldn't be seen from inside.

[Cheri_G]

This link has both the murder and Kristi on the front page..
It says the murder happened on Aug 12th right after midnight and Kristi went missing on Aug 11 around 9:30....maybe this report is wrong...but it's where I got my info

http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=150657&MemberID=1281

This report is from a local paper and has quite a few details. Time 911 was called, time LE arrived, quotes from responding officers, etc.

I think its more likely that this one is right and the one I read was wrong.

[just42day97]

This report is from a local paper and has quite a few details. Time 911 was called, time LE arrived, quotes from responding officers, etc.

I think its more likely that this one is right and the one I read was wrong.

Also if I am not mistaken...( and I could be..lol) I saw pics of the officers at the murder scene in one report..and they had rain ponchos on....and the rain didn't start there till after Kristi went missing...as a matter of fact, they got very heavy rain afterwards...

[mitzi]

Mitzi, you'll really appreciate those cameras. They've become fairly common in residential installations. Not only can you view them from your TV inside but also remotely on your computer when you're out of town.

While renovating our house (which has gone one FOREVER) we realized how many blind spots and isolated areas we had created that couldn't be seen from inside.

Thanks for that information. Very good idea.

[Ice Cycle]

Also if I am not mistaken...( and I could be..lol) I saw pics of the officers at the murder scene in one report..and they had rain ponchos on....and the rain didn't start there till after Kristi went missing...as a matter of fact, they got very heavy rain afterwards...


Well this is also something I was wondering about as what time did it actually start raining where she was and also did it look like rain before she left. My reason is that I have always found it odd that she would of left there in flip flops (if true) and that late on that road and just wonder if their was a purpose other than just a walk. Like walking to a store or to meet someone or just to be able to talk in private. To me it just doesn't appear she put much though into it as a walk, before she left. I mean this was not just a short route around the block.

[Curious]

It sounds like the burned SUV is not related.

Just wishful thinking, but do you all suppose the silence is because LE is closing in on a suspect? Was going to go back and look at story links to see the date of the last statement made by GBI. My heart goes out to her family, I can't even fathom being in their shoes right now.

[just42day97]

Well this is also something I was wondering about as what time did it actually start raining where she was and also did it look like rain before she left. My reason is that I have always found it odd that she would of left there in flip flops (if true) and that late on that road and just wonder if their was a purpose other than just a walk. Like walking to a store or to meet someone or just to be able to talk in private. To me it just doesn't appear she put much though into it as a walk, before she left. I mean this was not just a short route around the block.

I am not sure what time it started there....If I had to guess it would be around the time she was walking...b/c I had driven thru the north part of Ga and over in AL then MS. on that day...and it started raining really bad on me west of B'ham AL....and from the weather reports it was moving that way...As a matter of fact I checked the weather the day before b/c I was going to leave later in the day, but saw the weather and wanted to try to get to MS before it started...I almost made it...but did have to drive in rain the last couple of hours...if I had waited and left later that day I would have driven in lots more and heavier rain....

[RainyNiteNTx]

I am not sure what time it started there....If I had to guess it would be around the time she was walking...b/c I had driven thru the north part of Ga and over in AL then MS. on that day...and it started raining really bad on me west of B'ham AL....and from the weather reports it was moving that way...As a matter of fact I checked the weather the day before b/c I was going to leave later in the day, but saw the weather and wanted to try to get to MS before it started...I almost made it...but did have to drive in rain the last couple of hours...if I had waited and left later that day I would have driven in lots more and heavier rain....

So this rain was predicted? I could understand if a stray thunderstorm popped up out of nowhere, but this sounds like it would have been known that rain was forecast.

[Curious]

The following information is provided for Blairsville, Union County, Georgia (longitude W84.0, latitude N34.9):

Tuesday
11 August 2009 Eastern Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:26 a.m.
Sunrise 6:53 a.m.
Sun transit 1:41 p.m.
Sunset 8:28 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:55 p.m.

Still looking for historical weather data. If someone is good at using the search tool, I think someone posted the weather report for that night.

[Ice Cycle]

So this rain was predicted? I could understand if a stray thunderstorm popped up out of nowhere, but this sounds like it would have been known that rain was forecast.

Right and what I was getting at and TY for the info Just. Something just seems fishy about the way and when she left there.

[ClimbingRose]

Hi CR, we live a short distance from Blairsville. Even so, while not as close as some posters, it's enough to make us go back several times to double check the locks before going to bed. And we already have a security system w/a few newly installed outside cameras.

The whole thing makes one ill at ease. We double check everything....just to be sure. I can only imagine what Kristi's family is dealing with in fear alone.

Goodness, it just makes you sick

I am so sorry for your community. The sense of security and safety once broken can never be repaired.

[ClimbingRose]

So this rain was predicted? I could understand if a stray thunderstorm popped up out of nowhere, but this sounds like it would have been known that rain was forecast.

Do you have any recollection how long it rained that night?

[ClimbingRose]

Well this is also something I was wondering about as what time did it actually start raining where she was and also did it look like rain before she left. My reason is that I have always found it odd that she would of left there in flip flops (if true) and that late on that road and just wonder if their was a purpose other than just a walk. Like walking to a store or to meet someone or just to be able to talk in private. To me it just doesn't appear she put much though into it as a walk, before she left. I mean this was not just a short route around the block.



I curious about the rain that night such as how long did it last. Something about her wearing flip flops was itching my brain and then IIRC she had recently hurt herself w/ something related to muscle skeletal. I would think if someone was walking to heal something orthopedic she would have been wearing tennis shoes b/c they would have been a lot more comfortable for her based on the general area of pain she was having.

[just42day97]

Do you have any recollection how long it rained that night?

Gagirl said that it rained the next day as well...She said they were searching in the rain....
And yes it was in the forcast...I looked it up before I left to travel that is why I changed my travel time...I was going to leave around 5:00 pm...instead I left around 10:00 am...

[just42day97]

I curious about the rain that night such as how long did it last. Something about her wearing flip flops was itching my brain and then IIRC she had recently hurt herself w/ something related to muscle skeletal. I would think if someone was walking to heal something orthopedic she would have been wearing tennis shoes b/c they would have been a lot more comfortable for her based on the general area of pain she was having.


ITA
I wondered if she did have an injury I would have thought she would have worn better shoes...but someone here suggested they might be "Fit flops" I've never seen them...

[ginky41]

Kristi's friend said that she thought Kristi had hurt her back.

Gagirl told us that Kristi had injured her tailbone, FWIW.

[Mr FATE]

I have to admit - I'm totally perplexed by Mr. Davis, the Cornwell family, the GBI, the local LE and Kristi herself.

I'm not sure what happened to her and have never seen a case where the family of a missing person has not spoken daily about that missing person in hopes of keeping her story alive and in the news. I'm not sure if the GBI and local LE have any info (I suspect they do not) but if they do - they better spill the beans because this story is about to fade and any chances of finding Kristi due to national attention is drawing to a close. I do not have enough info to say - I think she ran away, she was abducted, she was someone and went with someone voluntarily, or that someone knows more than they are saying. I just do not have enough info to go in any one direction.

I have never heard of a state agency with the powers to issue a gag order. That's for a judge to decide and usually for a trial. Of course, a family could voluntarily remain quiet - but why..

And why would any agency ask a family to remain silent - I can think of none. If I were innocent and my daughter was missing and a choice between "hoping" the GBI comes up with something or doing interviews myself - I would choose the route of the interviews in hopes someone sees the interview and I would use that air time to keep her story alive.

Injured tail bone - I can only see this as someone that has fallen on it. I remember doing this myself and it takes time to heal and hurts like all heck. I'm not sure that walking will make it heal any quicker - it's one of those things that just takes time.

Why she would be walking in flip flops as opposed to walking shoes or a shoe with a nice cushioned heal while nursing an injury like that - well, leaves me scratching my head. Each step in a flip flop probably transferred the impact directly up her legs and in the area of her tail-bone. I'm not sure how comfortable that would be, but again who knows.

Mr. Davis - well, again, who knows. He's an odd person with an odd way of doing things for a woman he wants to marry. It's not a crime to be odd. I could list all his odd things, but what's the point. He does things in a manner I never would.

Prayers for Kristi...

[C.Hound]

I have to admit - I'm totally perplexed by Mr. Davis, the Cornwell family, the GBI, the local LE and Kristi herself.

I'm not sure what happened to her and have never seen a case where the family of a missing person has not spoken daily about that missing person in hopes of keeping her story alive and in the news. I'm not sure if the GBI and local LE have any info (I suspect they do not) but if they do - they better spill the beans because this story is about to fade and any chances of finding Kristi due to national attention is drawing to a close. I do not have enough info to say - I think she ran away, she was abducted, she was someone and went with someone voluntarily, or that someone knows more than they are saying. I just do not have enough info to go in any one direction.

I have never heard of a state agency with the powers to issue a gag order. That's for a judge to decide and usually for a trial. Of course, a family could voluntarily remain quiet - but why..

And why would any agency ask a family to remain silent - I can think of none. If I were innocent and my daughter was missing and a choice between "hoping" the GBI comes up with something or doing interviews myself - I would choose the route of the interviews in hopes someone sees the interview and I would use that air time to keep her story alive.

Injured tail bone - I can only see this as someone that has fallen on it. I remember doing this myself and it takes time to heal and hurts like all heck. I'm not sure that walking will make it heal any quicker - it's one of those things that just takes time.

Why she would be walking in flip flops as opposed to walking shoes or a shoe with a nice cushioned heal while nursing an injury like that - well, leaves me scratching my head. Each step in a flip flop probably transferred the impact directly up her legs and in the area of her tail-bone. I'm not sure how comfortable that would be, but again who knows.

Mr. Davis - well, again, who knows. He's an odd person with an odd way of doing things for a woman he wants to marry. It's not a crime to be odd. I could list all his odd things, but what's the point. He does things in a manner I never would.

Prayers for Kristi...

Perhaps LE, GBI, or the FBI asked the family to stay quiet to see what transpires, i.e., let others do the talking so to speak :wink:

[Mr FATE]

Perhaps LE, GBI, or the FBI asked the family to stay quiet to see what transpires, i.e., let others do the talking so to speak :wink:

C.Hound - not that I disagree, because I don't and I understand that aspect.

If that's the route - they need more than someone babbling cause I doubt someone will be on NG and confess. They need evidence in conjunction with statements.

BTW - TJ WARD will be on Nancy's show tonight. I believe he will be discussing Haleigh's case.

[Postergeist]

I have to admit - I'm totally perplexed by Mr. Davis, the Cornwell family, the GBI, the local LE and Kristi herself.

I'm not sure what happened to her and have never seen a case where the family of a missing person has not spoken daily about that missing person in hopes of keeping her story alive and in the news.

snipped for space by me

Prayers for Kristi...

Many of us on this MB can recall a case where the family did not speak much and then stopped speaking. It can be found in the archived forum & just started up again in Trials and Old Cases, it certainly seemed unique at that time.

I'm hoping the two brothers arrested in Cordele today will at least be asked if they have any information about Kristi. It's going to take some time for the autopsy/lab work to be done on the remains of that other poor soul that was found.

[KittyMom]

For those concerned with the lack of reporting. Maybe you should contact media and request an update. It would certainly be more productive than bashing the same couple of individuals over and over.

WSBTV
talk2us@wsbtv.com

11ALIVE News
http://www.11alive.com/company/contact/default.aspx

Atlanta Journal-Constitution
newstips@ajc.com

AccessNorthGeorgia
http://www.accessnorthga.com/access/contact/index.php

MyFoxAtlanta
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/subindex/about_us/contact_us

NorthGeorgiaNews
northgeorgianews@hotmail.com

UnionSentinel.com
usentinel@gmail.com

[Ice Cycle]

ITA
I wondered if she did have an injury I would have thought she would have worn better shoes...but someone here suggested they might be "Fit flops" I've never seen them...


Well I heard flip flops, never heard of fit flops (might of been someone's typo). Though I would not think wearing them would be of her normal routine when walking. The only way I can see someone wearing flip flops due to a injury is if their foot was swollen and could not get other shoes on but then I of course can't imagine walking with a swollen foot. It is not just the flip flops though, too many things point to the walk was not a plan just for the walk, at least imo, but maybe.

[just42day97]

Well I heard flip flops, never heard of fit flops (might of been someone's typo). Though I would not think wearing them would be of her normal routine when walking. The only way I can see someone wearing flip flops due to a injury is if their foot was swollen and could not get other shoes on but then I of course can't imagine walking with a swollen foot. It is not just the flip flops though, too many things point to the walk was not a plan just for the walk, at least imo, but maybe.


I've never heard of them either till someone posted it here..
here is a link
http://www.fitflop.com/

[ginky41]

Well I heard flip flops, never heard of fit flops (might of been someone's typo). Though I would not think wearing them would be of her normal routine when walking. The only way I can see someone wearing flip flops due to a injury is if their foot was swollen and could not get other shoes on but then I of course can't imagine walking with a swollen foot. It is not just the flip flops though, too many things point to the walk was not a plan just for the walk, at least imo, but maybe.

I think the original mention of "fit" flop was just speculation when we heard that she was injured and that perhaps her flip flops had been found at the scene. Many people were saying they couldn't understand how she could go for a walk while only wearing flip flops and then someone said, "maybe she was wearing fit flops."

[RainyNiteNTx]

It seems like the shoes she was wearing that night would be part of what she was last seen in. Surely if she walked often, she had a favorite pair of walking shoes, aerobic shoes, whatever that they could have given a description of. JMO

[Mr FATE]

Many of us on this MB can recall a case where the family did not speak much and then stopped speaking. It can be found in the archived forum & just started up again in Trials and Old Cases, it certainly seemed unique at that time.

I'm hoping the two brothers arrested in Cordele today will at least be asked if they have any information about Kristi. It's going to take some time for the autopsy/lab work to be done on the remains of that other poor soul that was found.

bold by me

Postergeist- I'm not sure what you are posting above. Are you saying that you are speaking of a case where the person was found deceased or is presumed deceased? Presumed deceased = blood or DNA evidence indicating a homicide yet no body? (i.e. Stepha Henry) In a case such as that - I could, naturally, understand why the family didn't speak, but in a case where someone is possibly alive, silence would let her case fade in my opinion.

I was hoping that the authorities were still searching for a "live" Kristi even though I know the odds are not good. Waiting for years (or even months) to go by, and no one is speaking in the case you are mentioning above, it might be possible that there were indications that the LE thought that the missing person was deceased from the get go. I don't know about the case you are referring, but just making some possible generalized points.

In Kristi's case - signs of a struggle could mean more than the flip-flop discovered. That has not been revealed.

I guess it's possible, entirely possible, that the LE believes and has indications (and EVIDENCE) that Kristi is no longer alive and would not reveal that publicly. In that case, not speaking makes more sense and they are looking for murder suspect and who may lead them to a body.

[ttcRider]

I think the original mention of "fit" flop was just speculation when we heard that she was injured and that perhaps her flip flops had been found at the scene. Many people were saying they couldn't understand how she could go for a walk while only wearing flip flops and then someone said, "maybe she was wearing fit flops."

Thanks ginky, it was my post and I was only speculating... Fit Flops are the latest craze in exercise footwear in a flip flop.

[Cheri_G]

I have to admit - I'm totally perplexed by Mr. Davis, the Cornwell family, the GBI, the local LE and Kristi herself.

I'm not sure what happened to her and have never seen a case where the family of a missing person has not spoken daily about that missing person in hopes of keeping her story alive and in the news.

**snipped**

I have seen families of MP's that have not made statements to the media every day. Some because the media couldn't find that ratings angle they seem to be always looking for and some because they were uncomfortable or too upset to be in the spotlight.

I've seen others get so much media attention that the focus on the victim was lost in favor of the family.

I can understand why the Cornwell family asked people not to come to their home. Its not that don't appreciate that people are trying to help. I think its simply that it has been overwhelming trying to deal with the heartache and fear of not knowing where Kristi is or what has happened to her and the sudden on rush of people who want to support and help them, combined with the various media all vying to be the first to report something.

I think its been clear by their website and interviews that they are not only looking for Kristi, but working to keep up awareness.

We all handle things differently and I don't think there is anything wrong with how Kristi's family has handled this so far.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I don't see anything positive coming out of silence...unless LE has advised the family not to talk for some reason.

To me, it seems that some how, some way you have to keep that fight going. There have been a couple of families successful with that and their loved ones were brought home safely. I wish the same for Kristi. JMO

[ClimbingRose]

bold by me

snipped with kindness

in a case where someone is possibly alive, silence would let her case fade in my opinion.

I was hoping that the authorities were still searching for a "live" Kristi even though I know the odds are not good. Waiting for years (or even months) to go by, and no one is speaking in the case you are mentioning above, it might be possible that there were indications that the LE thought that the missing person was deceased from the get go. I don't know about the case you are referring, but just making some possible generalized points.

In Kristi's case - signs of a struggle could mean more than the flip-flop discovered. That has not been revealed.

I guess it's possible, entirely possible, that the LE believes and has indications (and EVIDENCE) that Kristi is no longer alive and would not reveal that publicly. In that case, not speaking makes more sense and they are looking for murder suspect and who may lead them to a body.

I agree with you the family's behavior is odd, the lack of information coming out is strange and interesting that Kristi's family, community and others also feel DD's behavior is suspicious.

Believe that sometimes a lack of action speaks just as loudly as an action. We're missing something.

[Postergeist]

bold by me

Postergeist- I'm not sure what you are posting above. Are you saying that you are speaking of a case where the person was found deceased or is presumed deceased? Presumed deceased = blood or DNA evidence indicating a homicide yet no body? (i.e. Stepha Henry) In a case such as that - I could, naturally, understand why the family didn't speak, but in a case where someone is possibly alive, silence would let her case fade in my opinion.

I was hoping that the authorities were still searching for a "live" Kristi even though I know the odds are not good. Waiting for years (or even months) to go by, and no one is speaking in the case you are mentioning above, it might be possible that there were indications that the LE thought that the missing person was deceased from the get go. I don't know about the case you are referring, but just making some possible generalized points.

In Kristi's case - signs of a struggle could mean more than the flip-flop discovered. That has not been revealed.

I guess it's possible, entirely possible, that the LE believes and has indications (and EVIDENCE) that Kristi is no longer alive and would not reveal that publicly. In that case, not speaking makes more sense and they are looking for murder suspect and who may lead them to a body.


No Mr. Fate- the man has never been found, only his car, and last I knew, LE does not presume he's deceased either. His pregnant wife made a plea early on for money, that she couldn't pay her mortgage, that he would never leave & walk away from his life- then months later, filed for divorce, moved from her home, got rid of his dog & approx. a yr. later remarried. There have never been any sightings of the man, no activity on credit cards, etc. Several of his family never spoke to media, not even in the early part of the case. It appeared early on there was a division between wife & her in-laws.

No efforts were made for billboards, having TES search, for volunteers, nothing. This case also had the element of religion in it...sadly, this man's formerly good name was dragged thru the mud by the wife and her online supporters. (Nicholas Francisco)



In Kristi's case- hopefully LE was able to find some prints on her phone- but it sounds like those that found it, didn't pick it up with a plastic bag, so would've contaminated any prints that may have been on there that weren't Kristi's.

It is peculiar that several have reported there was rain that evening and also the next day- but reports that the phone was functional when found...could either mean that the phone wasn't tossed that night but placed later. So maybe it never got drenched in rain.

That could mean that the person/s are local enough to come back to a site and toss the phone. (if this was done) Maybe that means that their vehicle isn't one that sticks out in the crowd or seems out of place in the community.

Hopefully by now LE has conducted interviews with her classmates and online connections- to find out if she ever voiced any qualms about anything - new relationships, current life situation, former relationships, etc.

Her phone apparently wasn't dropped at the site she was abducted. IMO, seems like a person would drop what was in their hands if it wouldn't be a useful weapon. While a perp does have the advantage of having the element of surprise-

allegedly she had spoken of being aware of a car. IMO she was a big-boned woman and had defense training. Of course, all the training can go out the window and one can freeze/panic and not react like one would hope.

IRRC, TES tends to go with a 3 mile radius when first looking- I may have that confused with the search I went on with my local LE that started in that range.

Sadly, Kristi's case is not looking hopeful. :sad:

imo

[ClimbingRose]

Gagirl said that it rained the next day as well...She said they were searching in the rain....
And yes it was in the forcast...I looked it up before I left to travel that is why I changed my travel time...I was going to leave around 5:00 pm...instead I left around 10:00 am...


Hmmm...wouldn't this have been around the time DD said he walked that mountain?

[Cheri_G]

I don't see anything positive coming out of silence...unless LE has advised the family not to talk for some reason.

To me, it seems that some how, some way you have to keep that fight going. There have been a couple of families successful with that and their loved ones were brought home safely. I wish the same for Kristi. JMO

LE has been pretty tight lipped in this case and I have to wonder if that is not part of the reason the family isn't talking as much as we'd like them to.

[Mr FATE]

I don't see anything positive coming out of silence...unless LE has advised the family not to talk for some reason.

To me, it seems that some how, some way you have to keep that fight going. There have been a couple of families successful with that and their loved ones were brought home safely. I wish the same for Kristi. JMO

I agree Rainy - there are 110,000 people missing and I'm not sure each and every strategy has worked judging by the numbers.

[RainyNiteNTx]

LE has been pretty tight lipped in this case and I have to wonder if that is not part of the reason the family isn't talking as much as we'd like them to.

Very possible. Was it ever confirmed from LE that someone saw Kristi on that road that night?

[Ice Cycle]

Very possible. Was it ever confirmed from LE that someone saw Kristi on that road that night?

That's just it I don't think anything has actually been confirmed by LE. Just some Media reports, DD, Gagirl and alot of rumors.
I did read the flip flop part in some news articial somewhere.

[Mr FATE]

That's just it I don't think anything has actually been confirmed by LE. Just some Media reports, DD, Gagirl and alot of rumors.
I did read the flip flop part in some news articial somewhere.

I totally and completely agree, and that's why I can't decide if she took off or was abducted (stranger or acquaintance). Not that my opinion matters to LE, but for the sake of discussion I would like to try anyway.

There isn't much to go on here and few clues (if any) to analytically discuss.

I looked at some of the local businesses and there seem to be a number that would have video, but who knows if someone walked by or even if Kristi did.

[fastpitch]

Sometimes the family stops talking because they have reason to believe that the missing person left on their own. Early on, we mentioned Beth Smith as an example. People were so mad that her minister husband wasn't looking for her - and it turned out that she just ran away.

[Mr FATE]

Sometimes the family stops talking because they have reason to believe that the missing person left on their own. Early on, we mentioned Beth Smith as an example. People were so mad that her minister husband wasn't looking for her - and it turned out that she just ran away.

fastpitch, I have seen some very elaborate things in my time following missing persons. Staged hoaxes and people who have left every possession and family member in the dust.

I didn't want to believe that anyone would do such a thing, but in the end, that's how it turned out... and I'm usually the last one to think someone has ran away on their own to start a new life... but the reality is - it happens.

The hurt that those who ran caused other family members is a hurt I could never ever do to someone I love. Some people aren't wired as I am and do not cherish the familial relationship.

The guy that ran from his family in Britain and went to Panama - the missing canoeist - his two sons are devastated and said they would never speak to him again. The fact that their mother knew the whole terrible tale and kept it a secret made it twice as hard.

[Mr FATE]

Postergeist - correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't Help Find The Missing uncover many unknown fact about Mr Fransisco?

such as a set of secret accounts, online log-ins and other details that would make leaving possible? IIRC, and maybe I do not, but didn't he have a separate account that might have had some assets in it?

maybe I have remembered this incorrectly...

sorry for the OT

[RainyNiteNTx]

Postergeist - correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't Help Find The Missing uncover many unknown fact about Mr Fransisco?

such as a set of secret accounts, online log-ins and other details that would make leaving possible? IIRC, and maybe I do not, but didn't he have a separate account that might have had some assets in it?

maybe I have remembered this incorrectly...

sorry for the OT

partly yes and partly no. We are now allowed to have a forum for Nicholas Francisco and it is under Trials and Old Cases - we'd love to have you over there.

[just42day97]

Sometimes the family stops talking because they have reason to believe that the missing person left on their own. Early on, we mentioned Beth Smith as an example. People were so mad that her minister husband wasn't looking for her - and it turned out that she just ran away.

You are soooo right! I was one of the ones who thought it was wrong he wasn't looking for her...I was WRONG!

[ClimbingRose]

Sometimes the family stops talking because they have reason to believe that the missing person left on their own. Early on, we mentioned Beth Smith as an example. People were so mad that her minister husband wasn't looking for her - and it turned out that she just ran away.

That idea has been brought up early on in this case. What would be some indicators that might suggest someone had indeed chosen to disappear?

[just42day97]

That idea has been brought up early on in this case. What would be some indicators that might suggest someone had indeed chosen to disappear?


Well like in Mary Smith's case...it was like she just vanished into thin air....Same with Kristi...
There were no leads on Mary...seems to be the same with Kristi...
Mary had some things that came up in her life...such as she was addicted to pain pills...but nothing like that so far with Kristi...The only thing with Kristi that kinda strikes me as strange and has been brought up by others, is the time she has been in college...I've not heard a report for sure how long she has been going to school...but the length of time that has been suggested seems very long to me...
I go back and forth with what really happened here....The chances of DD having something to do with this is slim IMO....Although some of his statements IMO have been questionable. (at the least) Not sure I really trust everything he says...but nothing really seems to point to him...So either she walked away on her own..(possible she had met someone else on line maybe that is why not much has been released if they checked her computer) or someone really did take her...
I wonder if DD heard anyone elses voice other than Kristi's? like maybe did he hear a males voice in the background? The way he explained it..to me it sounded like whomever took her just kinda jumped out and grabbed her....b/c of her statement saying.." don't take me"...I've not heard if DD has reported hearing any other voices...
Just wished some leads would come in...hate for this case to go cold...

[easylivin]

I am new here. I have been trying to keep up with Kristi's case since I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville in NC.

It is very scarey something like this is happening here. I like so many others have never locked up or even taken my keys out of the car. Our version of locking the door was putting a rock up against it so in case the door wasn't latched, the rock would keep the door closed.

I now have locks.

I found the forum by googling so I will be checking in regularly. We only have newspapers once a week and where I live is so rural, we can't even get radio. So I am getting my information on line. Our church is praying for her safe return and her family.

Sorry I am not adding anything, I just wanted to introduce myself.

[just42day97]

I am new here. I have been trying to keep up with Kristi's case since I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville in NC.

It is very scarey something like this is happening here. I like so many others have never locked up or even taken my keys out of the car. Our version of locking the door was putting a rock up against it so in case the door wasn't latched, the rock would keep the door closed.

I now have locks.

I found the forum by googling so I will be checking in regularly. We only have newspapers once a week and where I live is so rural, we can't even get radio. So I am getting my information on line. Our church is praying for her safe return and her family.

Sorry I am not adding anything, I just wanted to introduce myself.


Welcome to the board!!! Glad you are here! :thumbsup:

[Amused]

I am new here. I have been trying to keep up with Kristi's case since I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville in NC.

It is very scarey something like this is happening here. I like so many others have never locked up or even taken my keys out of the car. Our version of locking the door was putting a rock up against it so in case the door wasn't latched, the rock would keep the door closed.

I now have locks.

I found the forum by googling so I will be checking in regularly. We only have newspapers once a week and where I live is so rural, we can't even get radio. So I am getting my information on line. Our church is praying for her safe return and her family.

Sorry I am not adding anything, I just wanted to introduce myself.


Welcome to the boards!

Most of us don't add anything.....
we just share opinions and news links.

[iluvmua]

1. How would DD be able to pull something off like this? He was confirmed to be in Atlanta when she was supposedly kidnapped.

unless he went to Blairsville, killed Kristi and then disposed of her cell phone and body and then drove all the way back to Atlanta to call the union county 911 without anybody spotting him along the way.

I think the above would be very hard to get away with.

[just42day97]

1. How would DD be able to pull something off like this? He was confirmed to be in Atlanta when she was supposedly kidnapped.

unless he went to Blairsville, killed Kristi and then disposed of her cell phone and body and then drove all the way back to Atlanta to call the union county 911 without anybody spotting him along the way.

I think the above would be very hard to get away with.

Yes, in fact if he was 2 hours away he could not have done it...there is a small chance he could have had someone to do it....I think that is very slim though at this point....they hadn't been seeing each other that long...what kind of motive would he have? Although there is a chance someone he might have been seeing had something to do with it...maybe an ex??...I don't know....I still don't trust some of the things he says....it's been reported by him that he met her parents...and then there was a report that her family said they had never met him until AFTER she was missing...they also said they didn't know they had been talking about marriage...( which in this day in age does not surprise me much)...there are just some things he has said that just does not seem right...but he can't be in 2 places at one time...so if he wasn't there..then he could not have done this...
Just wished there were more leads..and it seems the case is getting cold..I hope something comes thru soon!!!

[iluvmua]

Yes, in fact if he was 2 hours away he could not have done it...there is a small chance he could have had someone to do it....I think that is very slim though at this point....they hadn't been seeing each other that long...what kind of motive would he have? Although there is a chance someone he might have been seeing had something to do with it...maybe an ex??...I don't know....I still don't trust some of the things he says....it's been reported by him that he met her parents...and then there was a report that her family said they had never met him until AFTER she was missing...they also said they didn't know they had been talking about marriage...( which in this day in age does not surprise me much)...there are just some things he has said that just does not seem right...but he can't be in 2 places at one time...so if he wasn't there..then he could not have done this...
Just wished there were more leads..and it seems the case is getting cold..I hope something comes thru soon!!!

Unless DD can teleport himself from one place to the other it is highly doubtful that he did this.

[doctor_J]

3 Women Who Ran Away -- Similiarities

Jennifer Wilbanks

Mary Byrnes Smith

Mary Winkler

1) 30ish white women

2) devout Christian fundamentalist church members

3)money problems and or/financial crimes in history

4)depression and/or addictions-- neurotic mental illnesses

5)faced a life crisis before fleeing

The differences are too many to list but the similiarities jump out at me.
Does Kristi share any of these characterictics?

The biggest problems I have with the possibility of a staged abduction is the length of time that has passed and the fact that where Kristi disappeared, she would have needed an accomplice. We know that under the right circumstances women will leave their children and family. How far is the bus stop?

[just42day97]

3 Women Who Ran Away -- Similiarities

Jennifer Wilbanks

Mary Byrnes Smith

Mary Winkler

1) 30ish white women

2) devout Christian fundamentalist church members

3)money problems and or/financial crimes in history

4)depression and/or addictions-- neurotic mental illnesses

5)faced a life crisis before fleeing

The differences are too many to list but the similiarities jump out at me.
Does Kristi share any of these characterictics?

The biggest problems I have with the possibility of a staged abduction is the length of time that has passed and the fact that where Kristi disappeared, she would have needed an accomplice. We know that under the right circumstances women will leave their children and family. How far is the bus stop?

Well...Number 1 and 2 fit Kristi for sure...Not so sure about the other ones....possible 5 with the relationship with DD
I've not heard anything about her being depressed at anytime in her life..Nor have I heard anything about any money probs....
The length of time passing doesn't bother me....Mary Smith was gone for 3 or 4 months...without a word from her..She also didn't have a accomplice. She sold her wedding band and split leaving her purse and everything behind. She was from a small town just like Kristi...never had been in NY before and that is where she went.. I do think there are a number of similiarities.

[doctor_J]

Hi just42. But Mary Smith was in Bossier La. Kristi was out in the middle of nowhere. That's why I said she would need an accomplice unless she could walk to a bus stop. I don't know if Blairsville has a bus stop but I'm sure they would already know if she caught the one bus so she'd need a driver. Mary S didn't stage an abduction so that's different. The life crisis could be the brief marriage and recent divorce or something we don't know. If she got thru a divorce without depression for the 3rd time, she'd be unusual I think. There's a lot we just don't know. We don't know her mental state or possible drugs or financial state.

[just42day97]

Hi just42. But Mary Smith was in Bossier La. Kristi was out in the middle of nowhere. That's why I said she would need an accomplice unless she could walk to a bus stop. I don't know if Blairsville has a bus stop but I'm sure they would already know if she caught the one bus so she'd need a driver. Mary S didn't stage an abduction so that's different. The life crisis could be the brief marriage and recent divorce or something we don't know. If she got thru a divorce without depression for the 3rd time, she'd be unusual I think. There's a lot we just don't know. We don't know her mental state or possible drugs or financial state.

Hey back to you Dr J..
All are very good points you've brought up..
The family has been almost silent thru this whole thing..I think the brother gave just a hand full of interviews...maybe the Mom did one?? And that is so strange....If you remember Mary's family was about the same. Although I think they gave more than this even.
I still wonder if DD heard any other voices thru the phone?
I was also thinking about this the other day...Has anyone said or heard if Kristi's Son goes to school in Dalton or does he stay in Blairsville and go to school?? About the time she went missing some schools were starting..So I was thinking I wonder if he was supposed to have gone to Dalton to school....

[just42day97]

I had posted a question here earlier about Kristi's Son. I hadn't heard where he lived and did he go to school in Dalton...I just read a newpaper report that answerd that and I had not heard it here so I am posting it...looks like they had joint custody and from how I am reading it looks like he is in band in Blairsville...

Last week, Kristi Cornwell’s 15-year-old son, Brody, of whom she shares custody with one of three ex-husbands, went back to band practice, and his friends have been keeping him busy, Jo Ann Cornwell said. Kristi’s father Harold told a TV interviewer that some family members have been operating on as little as one hour of sleep a night.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-m...le-123729.html

[doctor_J]

In one of the articles I read the spokesperson for the family (can't remember the name) stated the Brody was getting on with life and had returned to band practice, so it must mean Blairsville? The quietness of the family was what got me thinking of the other cases and reminded me of MS.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Just - very good question regarding whether DD may have heard other voices besides Kristis. Maybe that is what cannot be revelead?

[ClimbingRose]

I am new here. I have been trying to keep up with Kristi's case since I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville in NC.

It is very scarey something like this is happening here. I like so many others have never locked up or even taken my keys out of the car. Our version of locking the door was putting a rock up against it so in case the door wasn't latched, the rock would keep the door closed.

I now have locks.

I found the forum by googling so I will be checking in regularly. We only have newspapers once a week and where I live is so rural, we can't even get radio. So I am getting my information on line. Our church is praying for her safe return and her family.

Sorry I am not adding anything, I just wanted to introduce myself.


Welcome to the board. Lurk all you want, post anything, and don't feel afraid to share.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Welcome to the board!!! Glad you are here! :thumbsup:

DITTO! It is always nice to have locals on a forum.

[RainyNiteNTx]

3 Women Who Ran Away -- Similiarities

Jennifer Wilbanks

Mary Byrnes Smith

Mary Winkler

1) 30ish white women

2) devout Christian fundamentalist church members

3)money problems and or/financial crimes in history

4)depression and/or addictions-- neurotic mental illnesses

5)faced a life crisis before fleeing

The differences are too many to list but the similiarities jump out at me.
Does Kristi share any of these characterictics?

The biggest problems I have with the possibility of a staged abduction is the length of time that has passed and the fact that where Kristi disappeared, she would have needed an accomplice. We know that under the right circumstances women will leave their children and family. How far is the bus stop?

But do we know where Kristi actually was on that road? I'm not talking about where things were found, but where she physically was...

I wonder if a bus comes through that town.

[ClimbingRose]

Well like in Mary Smith's case...it was like she just vanished into thin air....Same with Kristi...
There were no leads on Mary...seems to be the same with Kristi...
Mary had some things that came up in her life...such as she was addicted to pain pills...but nothing like that so far with Kristi...The only thing with Kristi that kinda strikes me as strange and has been brought up by others, is the time she has been in college...I've not heard a report for sure how long she has been going to school...but the length of time that has been suggested seems very long to me...
I go back and forth with what really happened here....The chances of DD having something to do with this is slim IMO....Although some of his statements IMO have been questionable. (at the least) Not sure I really trust everything he says...but nothing really seems to point to him...So either she walked away on her own..(possible she had met someone else on line maybe that is why not much has been released if they checked her computer) or someone really did take her...
I wonder if DD heard anyone elses voice other than Kristi's? like maybe did he hear a males voice in the background? The way he explained it..to me it sounded like whomever took her just kinda jumped out and grabbed her....b/c of her statement saying.." don't take me"...I've not heard if DD has reported hearing any other voices...
Just wished some leads would come in...hate for this case to go cold...


TY for the tutorial. You have some valid points that I agree need further examination.

[ClimbingRose]

fastpitch, I have seen some very elaborate things in my time following missing persons. Staged hoaxes and people who have left every possession and family member in the dust.

I didn't want to believe that anyone would do such a thing, but in the end, that's how it turned out... and I'm usually the last one to think someone has ran away on their own to start a new life... but the reality is - it happens.

The hurt that those who ran caused other family members is a hurt I could never ever do to someone I love. Some people aren't wired as I am and do not cherish the familial relationship.

The guy that ran from his family in Britain and went to Panama - the missing canoeist - his two sons are devastated and said they would never speak to him again. The fact that their mother knew the whole terrible tale and kept it a secret made it twice as hard.



Wow, can see how this would devastate loved ones. That emotional roller coaster these families go thru, I can see how it would be so difficult and leave permanent scars..

[ClimbingRose]

3 Women Who Ran Away -- Similiarities

Jennifer Wilbanks

Mary Byrnes Smith

Mary Winkler

1) 30ish white women

2) devout Christian fundamentalist church members

3)money problems and or/financial crimes in history

4)depression and/or addictions-- neurotic mental illnesses

5)faced a life crisis before fleeing

The differences are too many to list but the similiarities jump out at me.
Does Kristi share any of these characterictics?

The biggest problems I have with the possibility of a staged abduction is the length of time that has passed and the fact that where Kristi disappeared, she would have needed an accomplice. We know that under the right circumstances women will leave their children and family. How far is the bus stop?


Can't say about the other women b/c I've never followed their cases but Kristi easily fits your points. Be curious to know if they each had similar family make-ups.

[Danette44]

1. How would DD be able to pull something off like this? He was confirmed to be in Atlanta when she was supposedly kidnapped.

unless he went to Blairsville, killed Kristi and then disposed of her cell phone and body and then drove all the way back to Atlanta to call the union county 911 without anybody spotting him along the way.

I think the above would be very hard to get away with.

It's not impossible - does anyone recall when Stacy Peterson went missing and Drew claim she was at Dunkin Donuts that morning and come to find out it was his brother sitting there and her cell phone was ringing and he told him not to answer it if it rings? Something along those lines - I just have a hard time believeing DD's stories, her family seems to have given warnings about meeting people on the internet for a reason, and they never met him til this happen and yet he claims he walk with her the Saturday before, I really believe he meant he walked with her on the phone as he did the Saturday she went missing. JMOO

[openminded]

In one of the articles I read the spokesperson for the family (can't remember the name) stated the Brody was getting on with life and had returned to band practice, so it must mean Blairsville? The quietness of the family was what got me thinking of the other cases and reminded me of MS.

I had originally thought he might be a good resource for LE but if he goes to high school in Blairsville and Kristi has an apartment in Dalton then he probably spends most of his time with his father/paternal relatives.

And he might not know what's going on in Kristi's life as far as people she has met recently in real life or on-line.

His presence in Blairsville, though, could be the reason that Kristi was there visiting her parents.

[abbygator]

Maybe she stashed a car earlier and then drove off herself? Maybe a white SUV or gold or tan car? IDK, just expanding on your thoughts...

[n/t]

What's really frustrating about this case is LE won't deny or confirm anything nor have they released anything about the case (ie the signs of struggle, what they found, etc?) Why would releasing such information hamper the investigation? I don't get that.

The last time there was an update, they were going to check cell phone records and surveillance videos from local stores. Do we know if that was done and completed? Did they find anything?

What about her computer? Did they check it? Was anything found?

We know they suspended their ground search but now what? Do they just sit back and wait for tips?

Why are they holding so much close to the vest? This is a missing person case. :shrug:

[easylivin]

Thank you for the welcome!

This is a huge deal for our community and there are rumors going around. No one knows anything though, it seems. But I have heard some scarey things from neighbors and friends.

I wonder if the family has been silenced from the authorities too. I wonder if there are other outstanding cases in the area that are not being released because they are still investigating or they fear the worse, a crazy person on the loose here.

It is so remote, as you all know, that you can hide in the woods here for years (ie: Randolph) and not be found. Our county is mostly forest, has less than 10k people, one grocery store and 2 traffic lights. It is very very remote.

I have NEVER been afraid here before but now I am very nervous. I hope they find this person soon before something else happens. I pray the Kristi is safe but as time goes on, the chances become less and less favorable for her safe return. We can only pray!

[RainyNiteNTx]

Its been reported that Kristi was to have dinner with DD on Thursday night. Wonder why she would have mailed a special book to him rather than giving it to him in person? I hope this wasn't some type of "remember me goodbye" present to him.

IF Kristi voluntarily left, though incredibly painful for the family, at least that would mean she is alive. All other things could hopefully be worked out. JMO

[abbygator]

It is really strange that the LE isn't releasing anything. I don't get it.

Easylivin - are you able to share the scary things you have heard?

[abbygator]

Excellent point, rainynite! I hadn't put that together. Why would she mail that book if they were going to see each other. Hmmm.

I wonder if LE/family were able to see the note and confirm that it was in fact Kristi's handwriting.

There are so many questions in this case!

[RainyNiteNTx]

It is really strange that the LE isn't releasing anything. I don't get it.

Easylivin - are you able to share the scary things you have heard?

Forgot to say welcome aboard Abby.

[abbygator]

Thank you! I have been lurking since the beginning and posted one thing early on. I'm new to these crime boards but this case really hit me. I don't know if it's because I live in north GA (north of Atlanta, but south of Blairsville), because I am about the same age as Krisit, or what, but I have been following this case more than others.

I'm still learning the rules of the boards...I learned the ignore feature at one point! I know I need to use the quote function...I will work on that.

[easylivin]

It is really strange that the LE isn't releasing anything. I don't get it.

Easylivin - are you able to share the scary things you have heard?

I am reluctant since it's just rumor and speculation. I don't want to start anything. LOL

I just don't think Kristi decided to disappear on her own. I truly believe she was abducted. That is JMO.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Thank you! I have been lurking since the beginning and posted one thing early on. I'm new to these crime boards but this case really hit me. I don't know if it's because I live in north GA (north of Atlanta, but south of Blairsville), because I am about the same age as Krisit, or what, but I have been following this case more than others.

I'm still learning the rules of the boards...I learned the ignore feature at one point! I know I need to use the quote function...I will work on that.

LOL @ learning to use the ignore feature. Its a nifty little thing, isn't it? At the bottom of every post there is a "quote" button. If you hit that on the post you want to reply to, it will bring up their post, and then you post below it.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I am reluctant since it's just rumor and speculation. I don't want to start anything. LOL

I just don't think Kristi decided to disappear on her own. I truly believe she was abducted. That is JMO.

Do you think it was a random abduction or do you think she was targeted?

[easylivin]

Do you think it was a random abduction or do you think she was targeted?

I think it was random. It is just my opinion, i have no facts or anything to base my opinion. I think its a coincidence that she was a PO and I think there is a crazy person loose up here.

Like i say, this is JUST MY OPINION, I have no facts to base it on, just hearsay.

Another thing that is scarey to me is that i am having yard sales here. I am so paranoid if someone drives up alone and I am alone. I carry my phone with me cuz I am such a scaredy cat.

[easylivin]

The reason I keep saying JMO is that just because i am local doesn't give me any credentials. LOL I don't know Kristi or her family. I heard of the abduction the day after it happened and our church has her on the prayer list. Other than that, I am just like the rest of you. lol maybe even less knowledgable since i have never done any armchair investigations or anything. :biggrin:

[Mr FATE]

Its been reported that Kristi was to have dinner with DD on Thursday night. Wonder why she would have mailed a special book to him rather than giving it to him in person? I hope this wasn't some type of "remember me goodbye" present to him.

IF Kristi voluntarily left, though incredibly painful for the family, at least that would mean she is alive. All other things could hopefully be worked out. JMO

GREAT point Rainy and have been wondering this myself. I would think that such a personal gift would be best given in person and according to Mr Davis this is either a gift from Kristi's personal collection of books (makes it more sentimental) or a book she was fond of by Oswald Chambers.

I would think giving the book in person would be something someone would look forward to since they have an arrangement to meet on Thursday.

As for a crazy person running around - that's why I wonder why the police haven't said much. Wouldn't placing the community at ease seem appropriate? Now there are rumors and speculation swirling and no one is at ease.

I live in the city - bodies are found all the time. But if you live in the country, this kind of thing is seemingly out of place and makes neighbors wonder if there is a nutball living next to them.

lots of great points raised by all ....

+++

To add to doctor_J's list - the missing canoeist - he had massive financial problems.

[n/t]

I think it was random. It is just my opinion, i have no facts or anything to base my opinion. I think its a coincidence that she was a PO and I think there is a crazy person loose up here.

Like i say, this is JUST MY OPINION, I have no facts to base it on, just hearsay.

Another thing that is scarey to me is that i am having yard sales here. I am so paranoid if someone drives up alone and I am alone. I carry my phone with me cuz I am such a scaredy cat.

So, there is nothing being said locally by LE or the media bout being careful? If LE thought this case was a random abduction, wouldn't they warn folks to take extra precautions in their day to day activities?

If I was a local, I would demand they tell the public what the heck was going on. A crazy person running loose is something to be taken very seriously and I'm shocked they wouldn't issue warnings to the public. Holding stuff close to their vests won't prevent this from happening again if it is a stranger abduction.

[n/t]

Good point about the book Rainy.

[Mr FATE]

Good point about the book Rainy.

n/t - other than the phone call this is a huge issue for me.

Think about it. A gift like that would get you a hug. Everyone loves hugs, especially if it's from someone you love. Something so personal doesn't seem like something you drop in the mail if you have plans to meet. I would like to see the look on their face. But that's just me.

I guess it's possible she mailed the book before plans were established.

[n/t]

n/t - other than the phone call this is a huge issue for me.

Think about it. A gift like that would get you a hug. Everyone loves hugs, especially if it's from someone you love. Something so personal doesn't seem like something you drop in the mail if you have plans to meet. I would like to see the look on their face. But that's just me.

I guess it's possible she mailed the book before plans were established.

Even if plans weren't established, you have to wonder what kind of relationship they had.

It's not like he lived in a different State or Country for pete's sake. He was only 2 hours away. How often did they see each other? She was on school break. You would think they would get together more often than not. I remember reading Kristi had a motorcyle. Did DD have a vehicle?

All this of course is based on the "love" they had for each other coming from DD. We don't know how Kristi felt about the relationship and unfortunately neither does her family.

[Postergeist]

I remember reading Kristi had a motorcyle. Did DD have a vehicle?



<snipped>

whoa n/t! something I missed- is the 'cycle accounted for?

[n/t]

<snipped>

whoa n/t! something I missed- is the 'cycle accounted for?

Don't know. I'll have to go back and find the link. I think it was a facebook group for Kristi and pictures were posted of her with the motorcyle.

BRB...I'll go see if I can find it.

[Cheri_G]

So, there is nothing being said locally by LE or the media bout being careful? If LE thought this case was a random abduction, wouldn't they warn folks to take extra precautions in their day to day activities?

If I was a local, I would demand they tell the public what the heck was going on. A crazy person running loose is something to be taken very seriously and I'm shocked they wouldn't issue warnings to the public. Holding stuff close to their vests won't prevent this from happening again if it is a stranger abduction.

LE not saying much, not even a warning to locals to take precautions. Family not answering many questions, apparently having been asked by LE not to reveal what they do know at this point.

Makes me wonder if LE has an idea of what has happened and who is involved, don't believe there is a danger to anyone else in the community, and either don't have the evidence to make charges stick or are waiting to see if the suspect(s) will lead them to Kristi.

Or...

They have no idea what has happened and who is involved but feel confident the perp(s) have left the area and do not pose a danger to the community. Though if that's the case it doesn't make sense to me that they aren't releasing a lot more info.

[Pomme]

I know there is absolutely no proof at this point that DD had ANYTHING to do with this, but my gut feeling is that he did (paid someone else to do it, did it himself, who knows?). I will be most happy to find out that Kristi left on her own and DD is just a bit strange.

Can't speculate on motive because we know next to nothing about the players in this case, and I would truly be pulling things out of the air. I feel guilty enough about suspecting DD without any real proof! But he still sets off my hinky meter. NOT his Christianity, by the way - it's his strange way of expressing himself, speaking about Kristi in the past tense so soon, and thrusting himself front and center in interviews.

Oh well - I hope and pray that I'm wrong and that Kristi maybe took off on her own. That's actually a much more reasonable and feasible alternative. She may have used her call with DD as a way to throw suspicion in other directions.

More info please, LE!!!

[n/t]

Here's one.

She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country –on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

I'll see if I can find the one that her picture with a friend with motorcyles. I think it was facebook.

[n/t]

LE not saying much, not even a warning to locals to take precautions. Family not answering many questions, apparently having been asked by LE not to reveal what they do know at this point.

Makes me wonder if LE has an idea of what has happened and who is involved, don't believe there is a danger to anyone else in the community, and either don't have the evidence to make charges stick or are waiting to see if the suspect(s) will lead them to Kristi.

Or...

They have no idea what has happened and who is involved but feel confident the perp(s) have left the area and do not pose a danger to the community. Though if that's the case it doesn't make sense to me that they aren't releasing a lot more info.

I wonder, too if LE knows who may be involved and that's why they haven't issued any warnings. Obviously, no danger to the locals if they haven't revealed much.

I hope that's the case but I can understand how frightening it must be for the folks in Blairsville and surrounding areas until that's been confirmed by LE.

[Postergeist]

Here's one.

She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country –on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

I'll see if I can find the one that her picture with a friend with motorcyles. I think it was facebook.

TYVM n/t! Oh yeah, I think every biker person I know of from here to Vegas has done the tail-(me being a none biker, I can't see the rabid fanaticism of it all)

Well- you mentioning the bike made me wonder- where is her bike then?

(just thinking out loud- if she staged it, she could've had the bike hidden and then hopped on it when she decided to 'leave' - wonder if that is something her family/friends/neighbors/LE will reveal?)

[Pomme]

TYVM n/t! Oh yeah, I think every biker person I know of from here to Vegas has done the tail-(me being a none biker, I can't see the rabid fanaticism of it all)

Well- you mentioning the bike made me wonder- where is her bike then?

(just thinking out loud- if she staged it, she could've had the bike hidden and then hopped on it when she decided to 'leave' - wonder if that is something her family/friends/neighbors/LE will reveal?)

I think this is a great point - wouldn't that be something LE or her family would release (i.e. "Her bike is still here - she must have been abducted.")

[JanJan]

I can understand the fear of those living in the Blairsville area. I, too, wish the LE would give more info. I live southeast of Blairsville and I'm constantly looking out for a white Suburban. Saw one in a used car dealership last night in Jefferson, GA. Surely the LE have checked all of these in GA and surrounding states. It baffles me that we have so little to go on.

[Postergeist]

I wonder, too if LE knows who may be involved and that's why they haven't issued any warnings. Obviously, no danger to the locals if they haven't revealed much.

I hope that's the case but I can understand how frightening it must be for the folks in Blairsville and surrounding areas until that's been confirmed by LE.

:cursing: I always get miffed when learning that LE sits on info and doesn't warn the public because they don't want them to panic...so, the perp/s just plan to harm/take only that person?

yeah right, so the tiny, twiggy blondes with freckles y'all are safe, you are nobody's target

oh, and people with dreads in the area, y'all are safe, no one's targeting folks with that hair style.

Unless they don't feel now there ARE any perps?

I could see that with Kristi's motorcycle gear on, she could pass for a dude on a bike, wearing a do rag, blocky build...maybe the grainy photo was of someone in motorcycle gear?

(thanks again for those add't links n/t)

[Mr FATE]

I think Mr Davis should submit to a layered voice analysis.

TJ Ward is located in Alpharetta - and could easily travel to Mr Davis.

Just a thought, but after Misty Croslyn - Cummings was found to be 99% deceitful I think this is a logical next step.

I wonder if the Cornwell family would request this.

I believe in this tool, and it's way beyond a polygraph. If Mr Davis passed this test - I would consider him cleared.

anyway - just a suggestion.

[ttcRider]

Its been reported that Kristi was to have dinner with DD on Thursday night. Wonder why she would have mailed a special book to him rather than giving it to him in person? I hope this wasn't some type of "remember me goodbye" present to him.

IF Kristi voluntarily left, though incredibly painful for the family, at least that would mean she is alive. All other things could hopefully be worked out. JMO

thats a great point Rainy. I suppose if I was really excited about sharing the book with someone I would send it right away but if its as heart felt as her 'note' I probably would have waited and given it in person.

[panokatana]

Does anyone else think that, "Don't take me!" is a sort of odd thing to say? I mean, you are lucky enough to be on the phone with someone when someone attempts to grab you. It seems that perhaps, "NO..Get away!" or "Help! Call police." or maybe even say, "It's a (Whatever color) car." The phone is still on until she's grabbed, right? "Don't take me" just sounds so weak.

JMO

[ttcRider]

I think Mr Davis should submit to a layered voice analysis.

TJ Ward is located in Alpharetta - and could easily travel to Mr Davis.

Just a thought, but after Misty Croslyn - Cummings was found to be 99% deceitful I think this is a logical next step.

I wonder if the Cornwell family would request this.

I believe in this tool, and it's way beyond a polygraph. If Mr Davis passed this test - I would consider him cleared.

anyway - just a suggestion.

I watched that last night, very interesting subject. I must go read up on that a bit more, it sounded fasinating.

[ttcRider]

Does anyone else think that, "Don't take me!" is a sort of odd thing to say? I mean, you are lucky enough to be on the phone with someone when someone attempts to grab you. It seems that perhaps, "NO..Get away!" or "Help! Call police." or maybe even say, "It's a (Whatever color) car." The phone is still on until she's grabbed, right? "Don't take me" just sounds so weak.

JMO

that comment puzzeled me from the get go. It was also mentioned that maybe it was 'don't tase' me... Sorry, dont mean to hog the posts, stilll trying to ketchup today. :biggrin:

[panokatana]

that comment puzzeled me from the get go. It was also mentioned that maybe it was 'don't tase' me... Sorry, dont mean to hog the posts, stilll trying to ketchup today. :biggrin:

Thanks for the response,ttc. The "Don't tase me" is something I hadn't considered. Still, to me, it seems like too "much" to say. In the shortness of time, "NO!" or "Stop!" or "Please, NO!"... or maybe, "Oh, God!" Seems like...there is just too much...time. If she is still on the phone when he stops or slows down... in that familiar area...why might she not think that it's someone slowing to ask directions...or to see if she needs a ride. A conversation might ensue before she realizes the person means her harm. But for a car to stop, and she doesn't say to DD..."Hold on, there's a car stopping. He's getting out." If she were in conversation with DD, it seems she'd say, "He's got a gun/taser/weapon. Help!" (Hope this makes sense...didn't want to make a lengthy post.) :)

JMO

[Mr FATE]

Does anyone else think that, "Don't take me!" is a sort of odd thing to say? I mean, you are lucky enough to be on the phone with someone when someone attempts to grab you. It seems that perhaps, "NO..Get away!" or "Help! Call police." or maybe even say, "It's a (Whatever color) car." The phone is still on until she's grabbed, right? "Don't take me" just sounds so weak.

JMO

I agree... and I also wonder why Mr Davis states that he will not talk about the phone call - TWICE - in the interview with NG earlier this week, and yet DOES divluge details about the call - yet stops when talking about anything more related to "don't take me"... maybe Kristi did say what color, model and type of car and Mr Davis has not revealed that to the police - or - he has revealed that info (should it exist) but why aren't the police saying to look for a specific vehicle?

doesn't make sense to me.

[Mr FATE]

Thanks for the response,ttc. The "Don't tase me" is something I hadn't considered. Still, to me, it seems like too "much" to say. In the shortness of time, "NO!" or "Stop!" or "Please, NO!"... or maybe, "Oh, God!" Seems like...there is just too much...time. If she is still on the phone when he stops or slows down... in that familiar area...why might she not think that it's someone slowing to ask directions...or to see if she needs a ride. A conversation might ensue before she realizes the person means her harm. But for a car to stop, and she doesn't say to DD..."Hold on, there's a car stopping. He's getting out." If she were in conversation with DD, it seems she'd say, "He's got a gun/taser/weapon. Help!" (Hope this makes sense...didn't want to make a lengthy post.) :)

JMO

I agree with your post except the possibility of "don't tase me"...that would be 50,000 volts and the phone would have fallen out of her hand. She would lose her motor skills and drop the phone... also the phone would most likely be fried with that amount of electricity transversing though it's circuitry. The phone some how made it 3 miles away and I guess I believe it's doubtful that a perp would leave signs of a struggle at a abduction site only to pick up the phone and toss it three miles away. just my opinion.

[panokatana]

I agree... and I also wonder why Mr Davis states that he will not talk about the phone call - TWICE - in the interview with NG earlier this week, and yet DOES divluge details about the call - yet stops when talking about anything more related to "don't take me"... maybe Kristi did say what color, model and type of car and Mr Davis has not revealed that to the police - or - he has revealed that info (should it exist) but why aren't the police saying to look for a specific vehicle?

doesn't make sense to me.

It doesn't make sense at this point, at least to me either. Police did go as far as NC to investigate a lead, though...and it seems if they had information or a suspect that they were keeping close to the vest, they wouldn't have wasted the time to follow that lead. It just seems that something MORE had to be said on the phone. One is in a conversation with someone.. if someone stops and appears to mean harm...it seems like one would still make any conversation towards the person they were talking to...not to the person approaching. Of course, one never knows until faced with the situation what one would do...but... the time passed, the chance of being on the phone, presumably no 'small talk' before the grab... something just feels so wrong.
Not saying she wasn't grabbed, but just seems...something is missing.

jmo

[Mr FATE]

It doesn't make sense at this point, at least to me either. Police did go as far as NC to investigate a lead, though...and it seems if they had information or a suspect that they were keeping close to the vest, they wouldn't have wasted the time to follow that lead. It just seems that something MORE had to be said on the phone. One is in a conversation with someone.. if someone stops and appears to mean harm...it seems like one would still make any conversation towards the person they were talking to...not to the person approaching. Of course, one never knows until faced with the situation what one would do...but... the time passed, the chance of being on the phone, presumably no 'small talk' before the grab... something just feels so wrong.
Not saying she wasn't grabbed, but just seems...something is missing.

jmo

I can't seem to rule out that Kristi has left on her own no matter how hard I try. And no matter how hard I want to believe Mr Davis' account of "don't take me"... so much doesn't make sense.

it's been more than two weeks - her apartment and all cell calls and computer forensics are most likely complete - yet no word on anything here.

I guess I'm used to modern technology bringing me a press conference daily and that's not the case here.

[ClimbingRose]

I think it was random. It is just my opinion, i have no facts or anything to base my opinion. I think its a coincidence that she was a PO and I think there is a crazy person loose up here.

Like i say, this is JUST MY OPINION, I have no facts to base it on, just hearsay.

Another thing that is scarey to me is that i am having yard sales here. I am so paranoid if someone drives up alone and I am alone. I carry my phone with me cuz I am such a scaredy cat.

Oh,,very careful with that. Recently a newspaper ran a series about how criminals will go to several yard sales to stake things out which had never crossed my mind before but it makes sense. So, again please be very cautious. IIRC one thing LE suggested was to keep your garage door closed so no one could peak into your home.

[ClimbingRose]

I can't seem to rule out that Kristi has left on her own no matter how hard I try. And no matter how hard I want to believe Mr Davis' account of "don't take me"... so much doesn't make sense.

it's been more than two weeks - her apartment and all cell calls and computer forensics are most likely complete - yet no word on anything here.

I guess I'm used to modern technology bringing me a press conference daily and that's not the case here.

I agree with the rest of you. We're missing something and I think DD is part of that something. If Krisit did plan this, shouldn't the family be making statements that are directed toward her such as we miss you, we don't care....we just want Kristi home and so forth.

But for the family to completely shut down don't see how that can help this case at all.

[panokatana]

I agree with your post except the possibility of "don't tase me"...that would be 50,000 volts and the phone would have fallen out of her hand. She would lose her motor skills and drop the phone... also the phone would most likely be fried with that amount of electricity transversing though it's circuitry. The phone some how made it 3 miles away and I guess I believe it's doubtful that a perp would leave signs of a struggle at a abduction site only to pick up the phone and toss it three miles away. just my opinion.

Makes a lot of sense, especially picking up the phone only to toss it later. What do you make of not much being said other than the supposed, "dont take me."? If the perp stops and tries to grab the phone from her, the instinct would be to pull back...keep talking into the phone until the last minute. Logic places the phone with one of them...either he takes it or she has it when she is taken into the car... Unless she has dropped it, and he picks it up to ensure it's not still connected...then throws it out later...
Just scenario'ing here... sort of new to the in depth
reports of what has been found or where police are in the search...so forgive if I ask things that have already been covered. :)

jmo

[ClimbingRose]

I know there is absolutely no proof at this point that DD had ANYTHING to do with this, but my gut feeling is that he did (paid someone else to do it, did it himself, who knows?). I will be most happy to find out that Kristi left on her own and DD is just a bit strange.

Can't speculate on motive because we know next to nothing about the players in this case, and I would truly be pulling things out of the air. I feel guilty enough about suspecting DD without any real proof! But he still sets off my hinky meter. NOT his Christianity, by the way - it's his strange way of expressing himself, speaking about Kristi in the past tense so soon, and thrusting himself front and center in interviews.

Oh well - I hope and pray that I'm wrong and that Kristi maybe took off on her own. That's actually a much more reasonable and feasible alternative. She may have used her call with DD as a way to throw suspicion in other directions.

More info please, LE!!!


I think we've all learned to trust our hinky meter. That and our sixth sense tend to be a subconscious process that causes us to consciously recognize it. Make sense???

[easylivin]

Oh,,very careful with that. Recently a newspaper ran a series about how criminals will go to several yard sales to stake things out which had never crossed my mind before but it makes sense. So, again please be very cautious. IIRC one thing LE suggested was to keep your garage door closed so no one could peak into your home.

Maybe I will strap on my shotgun while showing ppl around.:scared: I do have a german shepherd that looks kind of scarey and she stays in the house. Maybe she should be out with me during my sales as a deterrant.

[ttcRider]

Kind of off topic but... here in Toronto people(adults) go 'missing' all the time and we hardly ever get any more news coverage than the typical 'Police are asking for your assistance in locating....." Its very rare that we are kept up to date or privy to family pleas. Its a totally different story when it is a child mind you but when its an adult sadly we don't get much coverage. Just saying, I dont find that the absence of the family dealing with media that strange.

[momof6]

Its been reported that Kristi was to have dinner with DD on Thursday night. Wonder why she would have mailed a special book to him rather than giving it to him in person? I hope this wasn't some type of "remember me goodbye" present to him.

IF Kristi voluntarily left, though incredibly painful for the family, at least that would mean she is alive. All other things could hopefully be worked out. JMO

I live about 3 miles from my parents and I send them cards and things in the mail, just because I know its fun to recieve surprises in the mail. Maybe she wanted him to have the book before they had the dinner so he could look at it and they could discuss the parts they liked the best.

Would the book have gotten to him in time to read it?

[momof6]

Here's one.

She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country –on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

I'll see if I can find the one that her picture with a friend with motorcyles. I think it was facebook.

If she is this carefree and independent, then she wouldn't have a problem leaving on her own. Sounds like she's independent and she likes excitement. I still can't see her just up and leaving because of the sadness she would put on everyone who loves her.

[ClimbingRose]

Maybe I will strap on my shotgun while showing ppl around.:scared: I do have a german shepherd that looks kind of scarey and she stays in the house. Maybe she should be out with me during my sales as a deterrant.

Make sure to keep a pouch of chew in your mouth and spit every once in a awhile. Seriously, don't let anyone interact with your shepherd b/c they be trying to get a feel of if your shepherd is mean and ferocious or if s/he is just a big baby like mine.

I always say my babies make great security b/c if they start running away that means I'd better follow.

[ClimbingRose]

Kind of off topic but... here in Toronto people(adults) go 'missing' all the time and we hardly ever get any more news coverage than the typical 'Police are asking for your assistance in locating....." Its very rare that we are kept up to date or privy to family pleas. Its a totally different story when it is a child mind you but when its an adult sadly we don't get much coverage. Just saying, I dont find that the absence of the family dealing with media that strange.

That's so sad...how are families ever going to find their loved ones?

[Speak Out]

I'm confused about what everyone wants LE to release for the sake of public safety. Here are the facts:

A woman has been abducted.

They don't know who did it or why.

They don't know where she or her abductor are now.

They are still working on it every day following leads.

So, what else do you want them to say? They can't give a specific warning, because they don't know if it's someone who targeted Kristi specifically or a random abduction.

If people in the area are concerned for their safety - they should be! Everyone should look out for anything suspicious. Everyone should lock their doors and automobiles. Women should not go walking alone, etc.

That doesn't just apply to Blairsville until the guilty is captured - it applies to everywhere all the time.

[just42day97]

I'm confused about what everyone wants LE to release for the sake of public safety. Here are the facts:

A woman has been abducted.

They don't know who did it or why.

They don't know where she or her abductor are now.

They are still working on it every day following leads.

So, what else do you want them to say? They can't give a specific warning, because they don't know if it's someone who targeted Kristi specifically or a random abduction.

If people in the area are concerned for their safety - they should be! Everyone should look out for anything suspicious. Everyone should lock their doors and automobiles. Women should not go walking alone, etc.

That doesn't just apply to Blairsville until the guilty is captured - it applies to everywhere all the time.



Normally in missing person cases more info is released.....Such as ..have they checked her computer??...checked her phone records?...Maybe things such as what she was doing days leading up to her missing....There are a number of details that is normally released...but very few with this case...just like Mary Smith's case...

I'm sure LE has checked all the things I've mentioned ( and much more) and maybe there just isn't anything to report on those things...but normally they would at least report they have checked those things and everything checked out ok....
I did email some of the media...(which is what we do here if we want more info b/c they can get it lots of times from LE) and only 2 replies back from media..both pretty much said that they haven't gotten any new info from LE...

[Speak Out]

"I'm sure LE has checked all the things I've mentioned ( and much more) and maybe there just isn't anything to report on those things...but normally they would at least report they have checked those things and everything checked out ok...."


Yes, I'm sure they've checked all of that and more, and there was nothing significant to report. If there was anything significant, that would effect public safety or that would help the public in assisting LE in this case, they would have released that information immediately.

[Hey Paula]

I can't seem to rule out that Kristi has left on her own no matter how hard I try. And no matter how hard I want to believe Mr Davis' account of "don't take me"... so much doesn't make sense.

it's been more than two weeks - her apartment and all cell calls and computer forensics are most likely complete - yet no word on anything here.

I guess I'm used to modern technology bringing me a press conference daily and that's not the case here.

If Kristi was abducted, perhaps the perp's fingerprints/dna are on her cellphone.

[Mr FATE]

If Kristi was abducted, perhaps the perp's fingerprints/dna are on her cellphone.

Hi Hey Paula...

I think some other posters have stated that perhaps since the phone was picked up by the father and son that the prints were compromised. I would agree with that.

I suppose that there would be DNA - but it would take a few days to run that through and perhaps that's some of the evidence leading investigators to the theory that Kristi was abducted. In a case like this - it's probable, but not to be expected, that DNA would be on the "hurry up" list. I hope it's been completed by now. If there was DNA discovered it's always possible it's not someone in a data-base and possibly a first time offender.

The new "touch DNA" used in Jon Benet's case exonerated her parents. DNA is sticky apparently and clings to almost everything. Doesn't seem to need to be blood, semen, hair or other bodily fluids anymore. A few skin cells is all that is needed. I also believe any cell can be replicated to produce more for subsequent testing. DNA testing has come a long way.

Last week there was an article about DNA that indicted it can be manipulated to frame someone by using rudimentary scientific skills.

[ttcRider]

Are there no searches going on anymore? It seems like things have really quietened down. :sad:

[Cheri_G]

Are there no searches going on anymore? It seems like things have really quietened down. :sad:

I posted a link to an article on the "Links" thread. There is a fundraiser, which I believe is going on right now, to raise money to help the family conduct more searches.

I believe LE is only following up on "credible" tips and will not be conducting any more searches unless directed someplace specific by a tip.

[Hey Paula]

Hi Hey Paula...

I think some other posters have stated that perhaps since the phone was picked up by the father and son that the prints were compromised. I would agree with that.

I suppose that there would be DNA - but it would take a few days to run that through and perhaps that's some of the evidence leading investigators to the theory that Kristi was abducted. In a case like this - it's probable, but not to be expected, that DNA would be on the "hurry up" list. I hope it's been completed by now. If there was DNA discovered it's always possible it's not someone in a data-base and possibly a first time offender.

The new "touch DNA" used in Jon Benet's case exonerated her parents. DNA is sticky apparently and clings to almost everything. Doesn't seem to need to be blood, semen, hair or other bodily fluids anymore. A few skin cells is all that is needed. I also believe any cell can be replicated to produce more for subsequent testing. DNA testing has come a long way.

Last week there was an article about DNA that indicted it can be manipulated to frame someone by using rudimentary scientific skills.

Hi Mr FATE!

I agree with your entire post. If Kristi was abducted, I'm hoping the clues/evidence left at the scene of her abduction will lead to her abductor. And if foreign DNA was recovered, perhaps the perp's is in the database.

Yes, unfortunately the downside of increased knowledge is the risk that it can be manipulated and used to produce a desired result.

I read about that burnt vehicle along with remains found. The vehicle looks like a white SUV. I wonder if it's the same one seen by witnesses in the area at the time Kristi disappeared?

[doctor_J]

I posted a link to an article on the "Links" thread. There is a fundraiser, which I believe is going on right now, to raise money to help the family conduct more searches.

I believe LE is only following up on "credible" tips and will not be conducting any more searches unless directed someplace specific by a tip.

Speaking of fundraising, who put up the $50,000 reward? I haven't been following cases very long but I know that is a significant reward. Much bigger that most MP's get. I thought it was the family. But then I saw where they were asking for drapes. Kind of strange unless a well-intentioned friend just dreamed that up. Who wouldn't just tack up a bedspread until they could order drapes?

I always wonder how much a reward helps anyway. Anyone would give info they had without a reward offer unless they are themselves associated with some criminal activity. So I suppose it can bring out someone ratting out a relative and or friend. And how much better is $50,000 (which would wipe out many normal working folks life-savings) than a , say, $10,000 reward? Just wonderin.

[Cheri_G]

Speaking of fundraising, who put up the $50,000 reward? I haven't been following cases very long but I know that is a significant reward. Much bigger that most MP's get. I thought it was the family. But then I saw where they were asking for drapes. Kind of strange unless a well-intentioned friend just dreamed that up. Who wouldn't just tack up a bedspread until they could order drapes?

I always wonder how much a reward helps anyway. Anyone would give info they had without a reward offer unless they are themselves associated with some criminal activity. So I suppose it can bring out someone ratting out a relative and or friend. And how much better is $50,000 (which would wipe out many normal working folks life-savings) than a , say, $10,000 reward? Just wonderin.

I think its $60,000 now and maybe more. The family announced the original $50,000 (not sure where that's coming from) and they are taking donations to increase it.

A church in Albany, NY is also offering $10,000 for information on Kristi's whereabouts.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I agree with your post except the possibility of "don't tase me"...that would be 50,000 volts and the phone would have fallen out of her hand. She would lose her motor skills and drop the phone... also the phone would most likely be fried with that amount of electricity transversing though it's circuitry. The phone some how made it 3 miles away and I guess I believe it's doubtful that a perp would leave signs of a struggle at a abduction site only to pick up the phone and toss it three miles away. just my opinion.

Just got home from work - interesting discussion guys.
Okay I have one of my OCD questions lol....with the information we have, do we know if the phone would have been thrown out of the passenger window or the drivers side window based upon the direction LE thinks they left the scene?

I'm trying to figure out if Kristi threw it out herself, hopefully as another clue she had been abducted. If the perp and Kristi fought over the phone, she might think his fingerprints would be on it. (Denise Amber Lee left clues the best she could - bless her heart - when she was kidnapped so her abductor would be identified).

[ttcRider]

Speaking of fundraising, who put up the $50,000 reward? I haven't been following cases very long but I know that is a significant reward. Much bigger that most MP's get. I thought it was the family. But then I saw where they were asking for drapes. Kind of strange unless a well-intentioned friend just dreamed that up. Who wouldn't just tack up a bedspread until they could order drapes?

I always wonder how much a reward helps anyway. Anyone would give info they had without a reward offer unless they are themselves associated with some criminal activity. So I suppose it can bring out someone ratting out a relative and or friend. And how much better is $50,000 (which would wipe out many normal working folks life-savings) than a , say, $10,000 reward? Just wonderin.

I always wonder about reward money in these types of cases. I could see someone calling in a tip for drug crime or something of that nature but when it comes to missing persons cases I would like to think that if anyone saw or knew anything they would have spoke up without thoughts of getting a reward. IMO

[just42day97]

Just got home from work - interesting discussion guys.
Okay I have one of my OCD questions lol....with the information we have, do we know if the phone would have been thrown out of the passenger window or the drivers side window based upon the direction LE thinks they left the scene?

I'm trying to figure out if Kristi threw it out herself, hopefully as another clue she had been abducted. If the perp and Kristi fought over the phone, she might think his fingerprints would be on it. (Denise Amber Lee left clues the best she could - bless her heart - when she was kidnapped so her abductor would be identified).



OMG Rainy...what a great thought!!! Anyone know the address where it was found and maybe we could google map it and see which side of the road the house is on....WTG Rainy..

Also about the reward money..sometimes the state puts up reward money for crimes..not sure if Ga did in this case or not...

[RainyNiteNTx]

OMG Rainy...what a great thought!!! Anyone know the address where it was found and maybe we could google map it and see which side of the road the house is on....WTG Rainy..

Also about the reward money..sometimes the state puts up reward money for crimes..not sure if Ga did in this case or not...

I always think of wierd things like that Just - drives most people insane. We're going to have to depend on the locals to help us out.

[Cheri_G]

Just got home from work - interesting discussion guys.
Okay I have one of my OCD questions lol....with the information we have, do we know if the phone would have been thrown out of the passenger window or the drivers side window based upon the direction LE thinks they left the scene?

I'm trying to figure out if Kristi threw it out herself, hopefully as another clue she had been abducted. If the perp and Kristi fought over the phone, she might think his fingerprints would be on it. (Denise Amber Lee left clues the best she could - bless her heart - when she was kidnapped so her abductor would be identified).

Good question Rainy. I don't think that's ever been reported on. Somebody familiar with the area might be able to tell us which is more likely.

I can't imagine if Kristi was abducted that she'd willingly give up her cell phone. She'd have known that even if she didn't get a chance to call for help, that LE would be able to track her phone as long as it was switched on.

[just42day97]

I always think of wierd things like that Just - drives most people insane. We're going to have to depend on the locals to help us out.

Well thanks for thinking of wierd things!!
Locals?? where are you??

[RainyNiteNTx]

Good question Rainy. I don't think that's ever been reported on. Somebody familiar with the area might be able to tell us which is more likely.

I can't imagine if Kristi was abducted that she'd willingly give up her cell phone. She'd have known that even if she didn't get a chance to call for help, that LE would be able to track her phone as long as it was switched on.

I agree that is probably what she would have done, but the whole cell phone thing intrigues me. It landed in a yard of someone that the family knew and survived torrential rain.

[just42day97]

I agree that is probably what she would have done, but the whole cell phone thing intrigues me. It landed in a yard of someone that the family knew and survived torrential rain.

Yes that was a horrible storm that came thru
it landing in someones yard that she knew does not surprise me much b/c it's such a small town and most everyone knows everyone...
But I thought whomever took her must have seen her on the phone why didn't they get rid of it then instead of 5 miles down the road..( I think it was reported it was found 5 miles away)....

[RainyNiteNTx]

Yes that was a horrible storm that came thru
it landing in someones yard that she knew does not surprise me much b/c it's such a small town and most everyone knows everyone...
But I thought whomever took her must have seen her on the phone why didn't they get rid of it then instead of 5 miles down the road..( I think it was reported it was found 5 miles away)....

Hmmm good point - why would an abductor not toss the cell phone right then and there? You're right - he/they/whoever did know she was talking on the phone.

[Cheri_G]

Hmmm good point - why would an abductor not toss the cell phone right then and there? You're right - he/they/whoever did know she was talking on the phone.

Maybe they couldn't get it away from her at that time. I would think an abductor's first priority would be to get her in the vehicle and drive away as quickly as possible because every second they are struggling on the roadside there's the risk to the perp that someone will come along.

If she was making an effort to keep hold of it they may have decided to get her in the vehicle first, get out of the immediate area and then lose the phone.

Or, and this is still a possibility, the whole thing was staged, and Kristi didn't think to drop the phone right away or decided to drop it at another point for some reason.

[Cheri_G]

AMW just did a brief update/reminder for Kristi. Good news that she's still getting some national media attention.

[just42day97]

Maybe they couldn't get it away from her at that time. I would think an abductor's first priority would be to get her in the vehicle and drive away as quickly as possible because every second they are struggling on the roadside there's the risk to the perp that someone will come along.

If she was making an effort to keep hold of it they may have decided to get her in the vehicle first, get out of the immediate area and then lose the phone.

Or, and this is still a possibility, the whole thing was staged, and Kristi didn't think to drop the phone right away or decided to drop it at another point for some reason.

I have also often wondered if DD heard any other voices thru Kristi's phone...He has said he would not comment on any other details of that phone call...so I have to think there is something else he heard that LE maybe does not want to get out....

[just42day97]

AMW just did a brief update/reminder for Kristi. Good news that she's still getting some national media attention.

Glad they did...just seems like this is going cold really fast!
Prayers for Kristi and her Family...:rose:

[dulcinea]

How far off the road was the phone found? I can't imagine you'd be able to get a good throw from inside a car. You can't bring your arm back very far. If Kristi tossed it herself (which I don't think she did unless this is a staged abduction), that means she was able to get the door or window open. I have a difficult time imagining an abductor would let her do that. I think it's possible the perp tossed it after the fact when he realised he had to get rid of evidence. If that's the case, then he would be a local person most likely. BUT if I was a perp going to ditch a cell phone, I'd probably dump it in a river or some place less likely it would be found.

[just42day97]

How far off the road was the phone found? I can't imagine you'd be able to get a good throw from inside a car. You can't bring your arm back very far. If Kristi tossed it herself (which I don't think she did unless this is a staged abduction), that means she was able to get the door or window open. I have a difficult time imagining an abductor would let her do that. I think it's possible the perp tossed it after the fact when he realised he had to get rid of evidence. If that's the case, then he would be a local person most likely. BUT if I was a perp going to ditch a cell phone, I'd probably dump it in a river or some place less likely it would be found.


Thats true...why throw it in someones yard?? I don't think if Kristi was taken by someone she would throw her phone out the window...she would want to try to keep it..But if she left on her own..she may would want to throw it someone it could be found so it appeared she was taken....Gosh I don't know I go back and forth on this one...I am going to look at the links and see if I can find the persons name who found the phone then try to get an address..I'm not sleepy it will give me something to do...lol

[just42day97]

I had thought I had seen the Man's name where Kristi's phone was found in one of the reports..but can't find it now..
I did pull up google maps and looked at the 2 places..one being where she was supposed to have been when she went missing and 2-where her phone was found...if a local is reading, help me understand something...It appears to me that the two roads are a good distance from each other..( I have read reports saying 2 miles, 3 miles and 5 miles..not sure how far).it also appears that you would have to get on a couple of other back roads to get there....if that is so, then someone who knows the area I would think would be driving....I may be wrong b/c I don't know the area...but it doesn't appear you can just get on Nottely Dam Road easily from jones creek road....
Also since this is called..Nottely Dam Road is there a dam around anywhere???

Others have also said this...if it were someone she knew I would think she would have called out that persons name...or at least have said something like..." oh that looks like Billy Bob's Truck pulling up"....
I do not think she would have thrown the phone out herself ( unless she left on her own) and I agree with another poster it seems like if it was someone who kidnapped her they would have thrown it in the river or something...but who knows what someone would do in a panic???
I know from looking at the google map it's a lot of wooded areas between the 2 places....
I did notice in one of the reports I read a bit ago, LE did say that Items (meaning more than one I would think) were found on Jones creek...so we had talked about what else that could be..the flip flop?? torn clothing?? jewlery??

I went back and looked again on the map...it says it's 5.9 miles from one road to the other..but not sure where at on each road to look for..not sure where kristi was nor where phone was found..so just typed in the roads...it tells me about 6 different roads to turn on to get to Nottely Dam Road

[RainyNiteNTx]

Hey Just - I remember reading about the man also. I thought his name was Fred and he was an insurance agent - something like that. One of the locals will know as soon as they get back here.

[n/t]

Fred Roberts found the cell while mowing his yard on Friday night. He checked out the numbers, which his son recognized, and called the GBI, he said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/police-testing-blairsville-117175.html

[ClimbingRose]

I always think of wierd things like that Just - drives most people insane. We're going to have to depend on the locals to help us out.


Morning Rainy,

Yesterday's discussions were very educational!!! As for you, you have a gift that can't be learned. GOD forbid I find myself in similiar situations but if I did, I would be calling on you and the rest of you posters.

Question, know this was discussed yesterday and maybe it didn't soak into my brain BUT, why aren't the LE putting out tid bits of information like cell phone records, computer searches and so forth? There's a vast wealth of sources that could help them and we know they read the message boards so why not utilize some of these? There are some really good detectives out there in cyber world and the cost is zero.

Ok, I'll sit back down and doodle on my papers.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Morning Rainy,

Yesterday's discussions were very educational!!! As for you, you have a gift that can't be learned. GOD forbid I find myself in similiar situations but if I did, I would be calling on you and the rest of you posters.

Question, know this was discussed yesterday and maybe it didn't soak into my brain BUT, why aren't the LE putting out tid bits of information like cell phone records, computer searches and so forth? There's a vast wealth of sources that could help them and we know they read the message boards so why not utilize some of these? There are some really good detectives out there in cyber world and the cost is zero.

Ok, I'll sit back down and doodle on my papers.

Wow - thank you :) That is one of the nicest compliments I've ever received. I've said much the same thing about depending on these posters, if God forbid I should ever need them. They really leave no stone unturned. I know some people get upset if they don't see the point of a conversation, but I believe that one thought can bring another thought from someone else and it might just be the thing that helps bring a tip in.

To my knowledge, there has not been any announcement regarding Kristi's cell phone records or her computer. According to gagirl, DD's cell phone records were checked and verified, so I can't imagine that LE does not have the same information on Kristi's phone. Maybe it yielded nothing? Maybe it gave them a specific direction to go in?

[Mr FATE]

One of the most important facts we might be over-looking is the fact that Kristi was ON the phone when the abduction allegedly occurs.

And we KNOW it's a CELL PHONE because that's what WAS found in Mr Robert's yard. You CAN NOT store numbers in a bluetooth.

Abducting someone who is actually on the phone seems extremely high risk, but abducting someone is high risk to begin with. Obviously, someone who would abduct someone is high risk and not someone who is mentally stable.

I wonder why Kristi could stage an abduction? seems to me being a former parole officer - she would have passed some type mental stability tests. To have the job she did - I doubt she's certifiably "nuts". You would need you someone dependable and clear headed. She would also know that valuable resources would be wasted by looking for someone who took off on their own. I don't know how she would not know of Jennifer Wilbanks, after-all, everyone does.

I think we also need to consider some of Mr Davis words. The phone call discussed more than just "don't take me"... after-all, no phone call is just three words. So, the alleged abductor had to witness her ON the phone especially if she said, 'a car is pulling up on me and I'm going to move to the side of the road' (paraphrased)...

if he saw her on the phone, why not ditch the phone at the abduction site, or as other have pointed out - in a pond, waterway, creek, lake... any body of water. It makes little sense to take Kristi and the phone and ditch the phone 3-5 miles away. I guess it's possible, but it doesn't seem to make sense.

[ClimbingRose]

Wow - thank you :) That is one of the nicest compliments I've ever received. I've said much the same thing about depending on these posters, if God forbid I should ever need them. They really leave no stone unturned. I know some people get upset if they don't see the point of a conversation, but I believe that one thought can bring another thought from someone else and it might just be the thing that helps bring a tip in.

To my knowledge, there has not been any announcement regarding Kristi's cell phone records or her computer. According to gagirl, DD's cell phone records were checked and verified, so I can't imagine that LE does not have the same information on Kristi's phone. Maybe it yielded nothing? Maybe it gave them a specific direction to go in?

You deserve my complements. If anything I'm somewhat envious but your gift is something one can only be born with. I challenge you to use your gift for the pursuit of justice to victim's who have no voice.

Wasn't gagirl DD's daughter? If so then any information provided by her should be voided out b/c anything she offered IMO should be considered bias and prejudicial. You're right we're not being given any information and find that sad. We aren't busybodies or gossipers wanting information only for it's entertainment. Our brainstorming could be very beneficial and possibly give LE some other directions or food for thought. We're not Columbo but dang it could be a useful tool.

[n/t]

Anybody can have a melt down including a former parole officer so I don't think we should dismiss that possibility based on her career choice back in 2002? What did she do between 2002 and 2009? We know she went back to school but it wasn't until last year IIRC. She must've had other jobs in between.

When did she start spreading the word of God? Was she always with the same religion or was it as a result of meeting people on that internet site?

As for the cellphone, if she had a blue tooth, her cellphone could've been hidden in her pocket and the perp (s) probably didn't notice she was on the phone until after she got in the car? The cellphone remains a big mystery.

[abbygator]

I wonder why Kristi could stage an abduction? seems to me being a former parole officer - she would have passed some type mental stability tests. To have the job she did - I doubt she's certifiably "nuts". You would need you someone dependable and clear headed. She would also know that valuable resources would be wasted by looking for someone who took off on their own. I don't know how she would not know of Jennifer Wilbanks, after-all, everyone does.

Remember the NASA lady with the diapers and the road trip to get that woman dating NASA lady's love interest? I'm sure NASA runs mental stability tests.

[abbygator]

Sorry -- new here. I'm not sure what I did wrong, the quote thing didn't work for me. I used the quote button. Is it because I deleted the stuff I didn't want to quote? Maybe I should stick to lurking.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Sorry -- new here. I'm not sure what I did wrong, the quote thing didn't work for me. I used the quote button. Is it because I deleted the stuff I didn't want to quote? Maybe I should stick to lurking.

You'll get it Abby - I thought of the NASA woman also and who knows the extent of psychological exams she had to take.

(Once you hit the quote button and then have the post on the screen, you can delete what is not applicable. Just make sure that the "quote" is still at the end of their post before you start typing your text. You also need to note that their post was snipped for content or whatever.)

[RainyNiteNTx]

Anybody can have a melt down including a former parole officer so I don't think we should dismiss that possibility based on her career choice back in 2002? What did she do between 2002 and 2009? We know she went back to school but it wasn't until last year IIRC. She must've had other jobs in between.

When did she start spreading the word of God? Was she always with the same religion or was it as a result of meeting people on that internet site?

As for the cellphone, if she had a blue tooth, her cellphone could've been hidden in her pocket and the perp (s) probably didn't notice she was on the phone until after she got in the car? The cellphone remains a big mystery.

Mr. Fate said that numbers cannot be stored in a bluetooth; therefore it had to be a cell phone or how else would the guy who found the phone know who it belonged to?

[n/t]

Mr. Fate said that numbers cannot be stored in a bluetooth; therefore it had to be a cell phone or how else would the guy who found the phone know who it belonged to?

Isn't the blue tooth attached/connected to the cellphone? Maybe I'm confused. The same type of gadget that is used for drivers. My son has one but the cellphone has to be with him. It's a handsfree thingy. LOL

She could've had the cellphone in her pocket.

[ClimbingRose]

Anybody can have a melt down including a former parole officer so I don't think we should dismiss that possibility based on her career choice back in 2002? What did she do between 2002 and 2009? We know she went back to school but it wasn't until last year IIRC. She must've had other jobs in between.

When did she start spreading the word of God? Was she always with the same religion or was it as a result of meeting people on that internet site?

As for the cellphone, if she had a blue tooth, her cellphone could've been hidden in her pocket and the perp (s) probably didn't notice she was on the phone until after she got in the car? The cellphone remains a big mystery.


All very valid points. Before anyone comes over to bash us for being religious fanatic's PLEASE UNDERSTAND ANY QUESTIONING OF RELIGIOUS CONNECTIONS IS FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL REGARDLESS OF THE DENOMINATION. Ok. feel better. I agree it would be interesting when she began to spread the word of GOD. Is it a different denomination from what she had been involved in. What stressors if any stressors were going on in her life at the time she began living this new life.

Although some may feel this subject bears no relevance, I would be interested in her psych profile. She had been married 3 times and was allegedly engaged with DD. What I have found is women who have been married several times, more than twice, tend to have low self-esteem that developed in childhood. They tend to also have an altered sense of love and being in love. Similar to a woman who grew up with an absent father or alcoholic dad where they have this deep need for love and acceptance. In no way am I implying that this is what her family engaged in.

It would be interesting to learn what general characteristics each of her former spouses had such as if all were similar or different.
Also, at what age did she marry and how long did each marriage last might give some insight.

Another common mistake that persons continue to make that leads to multiple marriages is his/her inability to recognize and work on their personal issues that was never corrected/healed and therefor continued to have bad relationships.

these are just my opinions from life observations.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Dru Sjoden was also on the phone when she was kidnapped - her boyfriend heard her say no no no - okay okay. However, according to the case files, this guy had a knife. We have no way to know if Kristi's abductor had a weapon.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Isn't the blue tooth attached/connected to the cellphone? Maybe I'm confused. The same type of gadget that is used for drivers. My son has one but the cellphone has to be with him. It's a handsfree thingy. LOL

She could've had the cellphone in her pocket.

LOL I don't know because all I have is a cheap cell phone. I got tired of replacing those expensive ones and I'm hard on cell phones.

[ClimbingRose]

Mr. Fate said that numbers cannot be stored in a bluetooth; therefore it had to be a cell phone or how else would the guy who found the phone know who it belonged to?

I understand the cell phone was found but was the bluetooth? those tend to be very small. From my limited knowledge one can push a button on the bluetooth itself and it can turn the cell phone on. If the controls were set for voice command, she could have spoken into her bluetooth, gave a verbal command and the phone would have automatically dialed it. And that's just from cell phones from recent years. It would be interesting to find a description of her cell phone and how it's bluetooth was set up as.

[Cheri_G]

Isn't the blue tooth attached/connected to the cellphone? Maybe I'm confused. The same type of gadget that is used for drivers. My son has one but the cellphone has to be with him. It's a handsfree thingy. LOL

She could've had the cellphone in her pocket.

I did some looking around at other sites and saw it mentioned that a blue tooth was found at the site where Kristi is believed to have been abducted. However, it appears to be just rumour (atleast right now). Though the question was asked, where that information had come from was not given at the time I read about it.

[ClimbingRose]

[QUOTE=Mr FATE;13418975]One of the most important facts we might be over-looking is the fact that Kristi was ON the phone when the abduction allegedly occurs.

And we KNOW it's a CELL PHONE because that's what WAS found in Mr Robert's yard. You CAN NOT store numbers in a bluetooth.

Abducting someone who is actually on the phone seems extremely high risk, but abducting someone is high risk to begin with. Obviously, someone who would abduct someone is high risk and not someone who is mentally stable.




Hey Mr Fate,

I also hold you in high regard for your very intuitive sense. Shoot I've messed up your quote thing, please accept my apology's. Certifiably nuts no, but poor coping skills or poor judgment wouldn't necessarily show up on a generic mental test. There could have been a stressor that triggered a psychological reaction. I like to use the pink elephant analogy. I tend not to keep those pesky creatures in my room but some do and eventually there's so many of them there's no where to turn or breath b/c those elephants soak up all the oxygen.
As for DD, I agree there is more to that entire relationship that sets my hinky meter off all the time..........(sorry but it keeps telling me my message is too short).......

My opinions are just that and should not be considered as fact.

I think we also need to consider some of Mr Davis words. The phone call discussed more than just "don't take me"... after-all, no phone call is just three words. So, the alleged abductor had to witness her ON the phone especially if she said, 'a car is pulling up on me and I'm going to move to the side of the road' (paraphrased)...

[just42day97]

Fred Roberts found the cell while mowing his yard on Friday night. He checked out the numbers, which his son recognized, and called the GBI, he said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/police-testing-blairsville-117175.html


Ohhhh Thanks n/t.!!!...now I will see if I can find out where he lived on that road...

[sarahhod]

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for all the fantastic discussion here, and updates.

Over on True Crime Report, a poster called "Worriedinatlanta" said this:

I am so worried for Kristi, Douglas is a very FAKE, EVIL, man that I know on a personal level..

I found this very interesting, of course we don't know whether it is truth or not.

Here's the link:

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php

They also made another post further down stating:-

I hold no grudge or vendetta against douglas. I will not state how I know him in fear that it may hurt the case. I hope he has nothing to do with this and that this will come to an end sooner than later.

Hmm...

Back to lurk mode lol. xoxo

[ClimbingRose]

I wonder why Kristi could stage an abduction? seems to me being a former parole officer - she would have passed some type mental stability tests. To have the job she did - I doubt she's certifiably "nuts". You would need you someone dependable and clear headed. She would also know that valuable resources would be wasted by looking for someone who took off on their own. I don't know how she would not know of Jennifer Wilbanks, after-all, everyone does.

Remember the NASA lady with the diapers and the road trip to get that woman dating NASA lady's love interest? I'm sure NASA runs mental stability tests.

Oohhhh, that's right.

[Hey Paula]

Isn't the blue tooth attached/connected to the cellphone? Maybe I'm confused. The same type of gadget that is used for drivers. My son has one but the cellphone has to be with him. It's a handsfree thingy. LOL

She could've had the cellphone in her pocket.

Good Morning N/T!

I often use a blue tooth with my cellphone. The device is placed on the user's ear after it has been initially paired with the cellphone. If Kristi were using a blue booth device, the abductor might not have known she was having a phone conversation when s/he snatched her and that might account for the phone being tossed miles from where Kristi was kidnapped.

IMO

[mitzi]

I had thought I had seen the Man's name where Kristi's phone was found in one of the reports..but can't find it now..
I did pull up google maps and looked at the 2 places..one being where she was supposed to have been when she went missing and 2-where her phone was found...if a local is reading, help me understand something...It appears to me that the two roads are a good distance from each other..( I have read reports saying 2 miles, 3 miles and 5 miles..not sure how far).it also appears that you would have to get on a couple of other back roads to get there....if that is so, then someone who knows the area I would think would be driving....I may be wrong b/c I don't know the area...but it doesn't appear you can just get on Nottely Dam Road easily from jones creek road....
Also since this is called..Nottely Dam Road is there a dam around anywhere???

Others have also said this...if it were someone she knew I would think she would have called out that persons name...or at least have said something like..." oh that looks like Billy Bob's Truck pulling up"....
I do not think she would have thrown the phone out herself ( unless she left on her own) and I agree with another poster it seems like if it was someone who kidnapped her they would have thrown it in the river or something...but who knows what someone would do in a panic???
I know from looking at the google map it's a lot of wooded areas between the 2 places....
I did notice in one of the reports I read a bit ago, LE did say that Items (meaning more than one I would think) were found on Jones creek...so we had talked about what else that could be..the flip flop?? torn clothing?? jewlery??

I went back and looked again on the map...it says it's 5.9 miles from one road to the other..but not sure where at on each road to look for..not sure where kristi was nor where phone was found..so just typed in the roads...it tells me about 6 different roads to turn on to get to Nottely Dam Road

I did not go out and drive this, but knowing where the 2 roads in question come out on the highway, and using mapquest, my best estimate would be 6 miles apart from Kristi's house to the cell phone.

I have not ever turned down Foster/Jones Creek, but it appears that if you are on Jones Creek headed toward the highway it becomes Foster Road. 95 Foster Road is the address of the store. At the highway, turn right, go north 1.78 miles, turn left on 325. Continue down approx 4 miles to where the cell phone was found. IF the address I used for the found cell phone is correct, and they were still travelong North on 325 (AKA Nottely Dam Road), it would be on the passenger side of the vehicle.

Continuing on 325 another 5.5 miles you will come to the Nottely Dam.

This is to the best of my knowledge and may not be 100% accurate to tenths of miles.

[n/t]

Good Morning N/T!

I often use a blue tooth with my cellphone. The device is placed on the user's ear after it has been initially paired with the cellphone. If Kristi were using a blue booth device, the abductor might not have known she was having a phone conversation when s/he snatched her and that might account for the phone being tossed miles from where Kristi was kidnapped.

IMO

Thanks for clarifying Paula. So the bluetooth is separate from the cellphone but the user has to have both. I think that's what may have happened. Perp didn't realize she was having a convo but then perhaps noticed her bluetooth and told her to get rid of her cellphone shortly thereafter.

The part I don't get is apparently her cellphone got disconnected during the struggle (per DD). How does that happen?

[just42day97]

I did not go out and drive this, but knowing where the 2 roads in question come out on the highway, and using mapquest, my best estimate would be 6 miles apart from Kristi's house to the cell phone.

I have not ever turned down Foster/Jones Creek, but it appears that if you are on Jones Creek headed toward the highway it becomes Foster Road. 95 Foster Road is the address of the store. At the highway, turn right, go north 1.78 miles, turn left on 325. Continue down approx 4 miles to where the cell phone was found. IF the address I used for the found cell phone is correct, and they were still travelong North on 325 (AKA Nottely Dam Road), it would be on the passenger side of the vehicle.

Continuing on 325 another 5.5 miles you will come to the Nottely Dam.

This is to the best of my knowledge and may not be 100% accurate to tenths of miles.

Oh thanks..thats what we were discussing yesterday..We wondered which side of the car the phone was thrown from...

[Pomme]

The part I don't get is apparently her cellphone got disconnected during the struggle (per DD). How does that happen?

Depends on the type of cell phone. Flip phones can disconnect just by clicking them shut. Otherwise, you'd have to press a button to disconnect the call. Hopefully LE is able to pull prints that aren't the finder's off either the buttons or the phone casing itself.

[mitzi]

Thanks for clarifying Paula. So the bluetooth is separate from the cellphone but the user has to have both. I think that's what may have happened. Perp didn't realize she was having a convo but then perhaps noticed her bluetooth and told her to get rid of her cellphone shortly thereafter.

The part I don't get is apparently her cellphone got disconnected during the struggle (per DD). How does that happen?

http://reviews.cnet.com/bluetooth-headset-buying-guide/

"The process of connecting devices via Bluetooth starts with pairing, a procedure wherein a Bluetooth-enabled phone and another Bluetooth device search for and recognize each other. Once your connection is made and secured via a PIN (personal identification number), the two devices will "talk" to each other and exchange information. You can connect as many as seven devices simultaneously at speeds of 500Kbps and higher. Bluetooth does have limitations, however. Its range is limited to 30 feet, which makes it good for connecting a handful of devices but not appropriate for an entire network of computers--you're better off with Wi-Fi for a network. Also, you can connect only devices that have compatible versions of Bluetooth."

Not knowing what kind of phone she had, we can't know what range the bluetooth had. But going by what I found in the above article, if it was 30 feet, as they began to drive off, the call probably would have been lost since KC probably did not have the phone out of her pocket and open during this time. MOO as no one knows what was happening in this time period.

[mitzi]

Oh thanks..thats what we were discussing yesterday..We wondered which side of the car the phone was thrown from...

Just wanted to add this thought...

If the person that threw the phone out wanted to make sure it wasn't found, and they knew the area, it seems like they would have thrown it out somewhere else along 325. If I am not mistaken, there are a couple of small bridges/creeks along that road.

I have traveled 325 many times over the last 25 years, but its easy to forget where everything is located when you aren't looking for something or you don't do it every week. I've passed Foster Rd a million times and never paid attention to what it was called. (hope that makes sense)

[Hey Paula]

Thanks for clarifying Paula. So the bluetooth is separate from the cellphone but the user has to have both. I think that's what may have happened. Perp didn't realize she was having a convo but then perhaps noticed her bluetooth and told her to get rid of her cellphone shortly thereafter.

The part I don't get is apparently her cellphone got disconnected during the struggle (per DD). How does that happen?

You're most welcome, N/T.

Kristi has long hair, so the blue tooth might not have been noticed, especially if the device is as small as mine. Mine isn't visible unless I'm wearing my hair in an updo.

The cellphone is needed to place a call. While you can have a convo using the blue tooth, without having to carry the cellphone with you, there is an operational range, and if exceeded, the connection will be lost.

DD could've been disconnected from his telecon with Kristi if either she, or the perp, touched the part of the blue tooth which disconnects a call. I use a Motorola blue tooth which has a bar, that when pressed, will disconnect a call. I have accidentally done this when I didn't even intend to end my call, LOL.

Another explanation for the lost connection might be that after the phone was tossed, the range was exceeded and the call was disconnected. It would help to know where the blue tooth was found, (and the distance between the two - cellphone and blue tooth) had this been the case.

[mitzi]

Channel 2 news in Atlanta just reported on the fundraiser held last night in Blairsville. They plan to have others in the future to help raise money for private searches, fliers, buttons, t-shirts etc. DD plans to have a benefit concert.

[just42day97]

Just wanted to add this thought...

If the person that threw the phone out wanted to make sure it wasn't found, and they knew the area, it seems like they would have thrown it out somewhere else along 325. If I am not mistaken, there are a couple of small bridges/creeks along that road.

I have traveled 325 many times over the last 25 years, but its easy to forget where everything is located when you aren't looking for something or you don't do it every week. I've passed Foster Rd a million times and never paid attention to what it was called. (hope that makes sense)


Thanks so much for your "local input"...
I also agree, it would seem like they would have thrown it somewhere other than a persons yard....that does not make sense to me....except if it were dark, and didn't know that this was a yard...since some homes in that area off way back off the road and trees line the front part..
Just wished more info would come in...don't want this case to go cold..*sigh*

[RainyNiteNTx]

Thanks so much for your "local input"...
I also agree, it would seem like they would have thrown it somewhere other than a persons yard....that does not make sense to me....except if it were dark, and didn't know that this was a yard...since some homes in that area off way back off the road and trees line the front part..Just wished more info would come in...don't want this case to go cold..*sigh*

Now this is very possible - with it dark out, the perp may not have known there was a house on the lot.

Does anyone know how far Fred Robert's house is off the road, and are there huge trees bordering his property along the road?
(highlighted red by me)

[RainyNiteNTx]

Just wanted to add this thought...

If the person that threw the phone out wanted to make sure it wasn't found, and they knew the area, it seems like they would have thrown it out somewhere else along 325. If I am not mistaken, there are a couple of small bridges/creeks along that road.

I have traveled 325 many times over the last 25 years, but its easy to forget where everything is located when you aren't looking for something or you don't do it every week. I've passed Foster Rd a million times and never paid attention to what it was called. (hope that makes sense)

Mitzi - thank you very much for your information regarding these logistics. From your earlier post and I understand this is based on guesses on which direction they would have been traveling, that it would seem the phone would have been thrown out the passenger window. That would mean the abductor had to throw the phone across Kristi IF she was sitting in the passenger seat.

[Mr FATE]

Because so little is known, I am usually just making generalized points. I apologize and should have been clearer.

In the case of the bluetooth - we don't know if she owned one, although likely because Kristi rode a motorcycle, and it's hands free and we don't know if one was found. There are only rumors to such. We just don't know for sure and I wish we did. It would help explain alot, so we just speculate at this point. It's natural to speculate and that's what these boards are for.

As to her mental state - again, we just don't know. And of course her mental state is important, I was just "saying" that unlike some jobs, Kristi did probably have a mental make-up done years ago. Of course it doesn't mean that her mental state has not changed over the years or that a traumatic episode or a stressed situation did not lead her to take off on her own. So, just to reiterate - it's probable that she did have some type of mental testing involved with her job, unlike some positions that do not require such. I'm not sure how much would be revealed or what might be relevant today. It's hard to say.

And, yes of course, NASA does very very in-depth mental and physical testing. And I also made a comment about Lisa Norwalki a week or so ago. She is the astroNUT. Seemingly normal people do bizarre things all the time. Someone who could seem completely normal could go off the handle in the blink of an eye. It happens.

As for Mr Davis, well, he received an enema here. It is likely that his daughter has told him that he was being ripped apart and read some of what I and others said. That's what we do and I make no apologies. I doubt we will see him again. I compare words and statements of people involved in cases. I also see if there are inconsistencies and where they might lead, other do this also. Mr Davis was inconsistent in my opinion. He brought the bright lights of message board posters onto himself with his own words. That's not my fault. They are his words.

[mitzi]

Thanks so much for your "local input"...
I also agree, it would seem like they would have thrown it somewhere other than a persons yard....that does not make sense to me....except if it were dark, and didn't know that this was a yard...since some homes in that area off way back off the road and trees line the front part..
Just wished more info would come in...don't want this case to go cold..*sigh*

You're welcome. Wish I could be of more help. And they definately may not have been able to see a house.

[mitzi]

Mitzi - thank you very much for your information regarding these logistics. From your earlier post and I understand this is based on guesses on which direction they would have been traveling, that it would seem the phone would have been thrown out the passenger window. That would mean the abductor had to throw the phone across Kristi IF she was sitting in the passenger seat.

Unless there was more than one abductor. One may have been in the backseat with her, and was sitting on the passenger side. Then again, they may have headed up 325 and turned back around to get back on the main highway. Sadly, we have no idea where they went.

[ClimbingRose]

Because so little is known, I am usually just making generalized points. I apologize and should have been clearer.

In the case of the bluetooth - we don't know if she owned one, although likely because Kristi rode a motorcycle, and it's hands free and we don't know if one was found. There are only rumors to such. We just don't know for sure and I wish we did. It would help explain alot, so we just speculate at this point. It's natural to speculate and that's what these boards are for.

As to her mental state - again, we just don't know. And of course her mental state is important, I was just "saying" that unlike some jobs, Kristi did probably have a mental make-up done years ago. Of course it doesn't mean that her mental state has not changed over the years or that a traumatic episode or a stressed situation did not lead her to take off on her own. So, just to reiterate - it's probable that she did have some type of mental testing involved with her job, unlike some positions that do not require such. I'm not sure how much would be revealed or what might be relevant today. It's hard to say.

And, yes of course, NASA does very very in-depth mental and physical testing. And I also made a comment about Lisa Norwalki a week or so ago. She is the astroNUT. Seemingly normal people do bizarre things all the time. Someone who could seem completely normal could go off the handle in the blink of an eye. It happens.

As for Mr Davis, well, he received an enema here. It is likely that his daughter has told him that he was being ripped apart and read some of what I and others said. That's what we do and I make no apologies. I doubt we will see him again. I compare words and statements of people involved in cases. I also see if there are inconsistencies and where they might lead, other do this also. Mr Davis was inconsistent in my opinion. He brought the bright lights of message board posters onto himself with his own words. That's not my fault. They are his words.



I completely agree with everything you just posted. If my previous post felt like I was disagreeing with you it was not. Was only throwing out other issues that can be a sign of or contribute to an unhealthy mental status.
As for DD, he brought all this on himself. Just a thought but perhaps no one has ever dared to call him out on his behavior before. As for his involvment in Kristi's abduction I still have that itch in the back of my brain. It isn't what it appears to be.

[RainyNiteNTx]

What I have found odd in this case is that a new poster seems completely obsessed with defending DD. I can understand an "I don't agree with you - lets agree to disagree" mentality after stating their case, but to go from board to board to board sounding completely unhinged about DD - well it makes me wonder. Coldwater has stated before that you never know who you're posting alongside or that you'd be surprised at who you might be posting with - that thought keeps playing over and over in my mind.

[Track292003]

Channel 2 news in Atlanta just reported on the fundraiser held last night in Blairsville. They plan to have others in the future to help raise money for private searches, fliers, buttons, t-shirts etc. DD plans to have a benefit concert.

DD plans to have a benefit concert??? Wow!!!

Also, a quick thought: I believe LE has said there's been no activity on Kristi's bank account or credit cards. Does that imply that she had her wallet -- or even her purse -- with her? Does anyone know?

TIA.

[RainyNiteNTx]

DD plans to have a benefit concert??? Wow!!!

Also, a quick thought: I believe LE has said there's been no activity on Kristi's bank account or credit cards. Does that imply that she had her wallet -- or even her purse -- with her? Does anyone know?

TIA.


Hey Track - I don't know. I wouldn't think she would go walking with her purse or wallet, but she might have her DL with her...maybe that is something they found at the scene? I had not thought about that.

[Mr FATE]

I completely agree with everything you just posted. If my previous post felt like I was disagreeing with you it was not. Was only throwing out other issues that can be a sign of or contribute to an unhealthy mental status.
As for DD, he brought all this on himself. Just a thought but perhaps no one has ever dared to call him out on his behavior before. As for his involvment in Kristi's abduction I still have that itch in the back of my brain. It isn't what it appears to be.

no worries ClimbingRose :smile:

bold by me - totally agree. His words are not ringing completely true for me.

[Mr FATE]

DD plans to have a benefit concert??? Wow!!!

Also, a quick thought: I believe LE has said there's been no activity on Kristi's bank account or credit cards. Does that imply that she had her wallet -- or even her purse -- with her? Does anyone know?

TIA.

Track - I just wanted to reply so you don't think "we" were ignoring your post. But, unfortunately, the purse, wallet, bank accounts, monies, credit cards - it's all unknown.

we don't know much here - and the one person that seems to know SOME facts, has clammed up.

[just42day97]

What I have found odd in this case is that a new poster seems completely obsessed with defending DD. I can understand an "I don't agree with you - lets agree to disagree" mentality after stating their case, but to go from board to board to board sounding completely unhinged about DD - well it makes me wonder. Coldwater has stated before that you never know who you're posting alongside or that you'd be surprised at who you might be posting with - that thought keeps playing over and over in my mind.


Oh I've thought the same thing about the "poster" you are refering to...There is no telling who that person really is!!!

[C.Hound]

What I have found odd in this case is that a new poster seems completely obsessed with defending DD. I can understand an "I don't agree with you - lets agree to disagree" mentality after stating their case, but to go from board to board to board sounding completely unhinged about DD - well it makes me wonder. Coldwater has stated before that you never know who you're posting alongside or that you'd be surprised at who you might be posting with - that thought keeps playing over and over in my mind.

I've had the same thoughts when I run across that person's regurgitated and unhinged comments (a perfect description Rainy!). I've tried to understand why she(?) is on such a crusade about a person she supposedly doesn't know. I had an "aha" moment when I read your post in regards to Coldwater's statement. Thanks for sharing.

[seemsodd]

Hey back to you Dr J..
All are very good points you've brought up..
The family has been almost silent thru this whole thing..I think the brother gave just a hand full of interviews...maybe the Mom did one?? And that is so strange....If you remember Mary's family was about the same. Although I think they gave more than this even.
I still wonder if DD heard any other voices thru the phone?
I was also thinking about this the other day...Has anyone said or heard if Kristi's Son goes to school in Dalton or does he stay in Blairsville and go to school?? About the time she went missing some schools were starting..So I was thinking I wonder if he was supposed to have gone to Dalton to school....



I asked someone (again second hand info, nothing I know for sure) my co-worker's son goes to school with Kristi's son according to him Doug (the first husband/father of son) has been raising him since the divorce. I felt this was odd, but he has been enrolled in the Union County School system as far as I have been able to look in old school year books.

[just42day97]

I asked someone (again second hand info, nothing I know for sure) my co-worker's son goes to school with Kristi's son according to him Doug (the first husband/father of son) has been raising him since the divorce. I felt this was odd, but he has been enrolled in the Union County School system as far as I have been able to look in old school year books.


Thanks seemsodd....its great to have locals here!

[ClimbingRose]

I asked someone (again second hand info, nothing I know for sure) my co-worker's son goes to school with Kristi's son according to him Doug (the first husband/father of son) has been raising him since the divorce. I felt this was odd, but he has been enrolled in the Union County School system as far as I have been able to look in old school year books.



Do you have any info as to how old the son is or how long she was married to his father? Is that little store owned by his family or the second husbands?

[Ms Daisy]

I've gone all over the place with thoughts and suspicions about what's happened to Kristi. However, it's beginning to appear as though she really was abducted and probably has met with foul play, her body to turn up someday by hunters this fall after the leaves have fallen.

1) As someone has pointed out again; her credit card(s) and her bank account have not been used. (as far as we know)

2) There's little, if any, indication (as far as we know) of her being unhappy enough to simply leave everything familiar to her, including her only child.

3) IMO, she, like many female LE, decided to find another line of less stressful or potentially dangerous employment as she grew older and decided to go back to school for training. I don't think it's accurate that she'd been in school since leaving LE. Reports indicate that she has had various other jobs in the interim.

4) That 'attention hound' in Atlanta that claims to have been her boyfriend is full of it, IMO. He's simply found a way to get his face on TV for his own ego.

5)................................................ .
6)................................................
7)................................................

8) And the fact that LE is telling us OOOOOOOOOOO

I've read that there are several hundred women, in Ga. alone, who are missing under mysterious circumstances never to have been seen again. It happens. This may be another of those cases.

But......there's that nagging thing in your brain that suggests, 'Maybe Not'. ???????????????????????????????????

[RainyNiteNTx]

I asked someone (again second hand info, nothing I know for sure) my co-worker's son goes to school with Kristi's son according to him Doug (the first husband/father of son) has been raising him since the divorce. I felt this was odd, but he has been enrolled in the Union County School system as far as I have been able to look in old school year books.

Do you know when Kristi and her first husband/father of son divorced?

[seemsodd]

Thank you for the welcome!

This is a huge deal for our community and there are rumors going around. No one knows anything though, it seems. But I have heard some scarey things from neighbors and friends.

I wonder if the family has been silenced from the authorities too. I wonder if there are other outstanding cases in the area that are not being released because they are still investigating or they fear the worse, a crazy person on the loose here.

It is so remote, as you all know, that you can hide in the woods here for years (ie: Randolph) and not be found. Our county is mostly forest, has less than 10k people, one grocery store and 2 traffic lights. It is very very remote.

I have NEVER been afraid here before but now I am very nervous. I hope they find this person soon before something else happens. I pray the Kristi is safe but as time goes on, the chances become less and less favorable for her safe return. We can only pray!


I believe it was proven by the FBI and the NCBI that various people in the Murphy N.C. area was helping Eric Rudolph avoid being captured during his time on the lame. I have family that lives in murphy , I'm not being judgmental at all just stating a proven fact.

[Mr FATE]

has anyone consider in a runaway situation - that this might not be a love interest - but possibly a person such as in the pictures from her facebook that n/t posted?

maybe a "friend" ....

[Mr FATE]

Oh I've thought the same thing about the "poster" you are refering to...There is no telling who that person really is!!!

I thought the same thing... and in fact have been on boards where the opinions are diametrically opposed. BUT to go to other boards, under the same screen name and spout the same views spells agenda to me.

The heat was hot here - too hot... maybe move on and tell the story to others that have not had that "insight"....

jmo

[Cheri_G]

has anyone consider in a runaway situation - that this might not be a love interest - but possibly a person such as in the pictures from her facebook that n/t posted?

maybe a "friend" ....

The biggest obstacle I'm seeing with the staged abduction/runaway theory is what is she doing for money if that's the case?

[seemsodd]

OMG Rainy...what a great thought!!! Anyone know the address where it was found and maybe we could google map it and see which side of the road the house is on....WTG Rainy..

Also about the reward money..sometimes the state puts up reward money for crimes..not sure if Ga did in this case or not...


Fred Roberts house would be on the left side of the road the searchers was checking. The phone would have been thrown from the drivers side.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Fred Roberts house would be on the left side of the road the searchers was checking. The phone would have been thrown from the drivers side.

Thanks! At night is it hard to tell there is a house there?

[Ice Cycle]

Good Morning All, or late morning anyway.
Just been reading up for the day. Seemsold did not know the father had live in custody of the 15 year old as the Media has in the past made it appear she did or at least joint custody. As far as the discussion about the bluetooth I have pretty much though this all along as to me it is the only thing that made sense of why she would make the statement "don't take me"-signaling to DD in hopes that the perp could not tell she had it on. I agree it does not make since why they would throw it out of the car if they then later discovered it though, let alone in someone's yard but it is possible they weren't concerned with that as headed farther away.

[RainyNiteNTx]

The biggest obstacle I'm seeing with the staged abduction/runaway theory is what is she doing for money if that's the case?

The issue of cash never stopped the theories regarding NF having run away, but seriously how can someone run away and not have any cash or access to cash? Use someone else's cash?

[just42day97]

The biggest obstacle I'm seeing with the staged abduction/runaway theory is what is she doing for money if that's the case?


We all thought the same thing in Mary Smith's case....She pawned her wedding band and jumped on a bus to NY and lived in a homeless shelter for a bit..got a job at a fast food place...she didn't have any money with her...
I guess we don't know if she had a little money put away or not...or if she left with someone they may be giving her money..It would be hard to have any money put away if she was a full time student...anyone know if she had a part time job or something the last few months?

[seemsodd]

Do you have any info as to how old the son is or how long she was married to his father? Is that little store owned by his family or the second husbands?


The son is 15, Kristi and Doug were married at least 5 years I don't know for sure exactly how long. The store is owned by Doug's father.

[mitzi]

Fred Roberts house would be on the left side of the road the searchers was checking. The phone would have been thrown from the drivers side.

Seemsodd, thank you for correcting that. I was not using a 325 address, but a road that is on 325 as that was the listing I found, so I assumed he was probably the corner lot.

Sorry folks.

[seemsodd]

I went out of town for the weekend, I called my son on his cell phone (he lives in a large town in GA) his girlfriend picked up instead of my son it seems he took her cell phone with him instead of his own by mistake I talked to his girl friend for quite a while. My point is, couldn't this same situation have happened in Kristi's case, not to say it actually did happen like my call... however if the BF did have another person's phone when she called his, if the one answering the phone was familiar to Kristi she might do as I did and talk to this person for a while. Far stretched, but it could happen. What would happen to the BF's alibi in this situation?

I read in one of the news articles from this case the LE was checking other cell phone hits in the area.... could the BF still be considered a suspect in this case?

[openminded]

I asked someone (again second hand info, nothing I know for sure) my co-worker's son goes to school with Kristi's son according to him Doug (the first husband/father of son) has been raising him since the divorce. I felt this was odd, but he has been enrolled in the Union County School system as far as I have been able to look in old school year books.

I had thought the child's father probably had custody since Kristi spent part/most of the year in Dalton, at least recently, and the statement that her son went "back to band practice" (or words to that effect) in Blairsville made it appear that was where he went to school and not Dalton. Her son being in Blairsville could have been why Kristi was back visiting her parents.

Unfortunately, that probably means LE might not learn a lot about Kristi's day-to-day life from her son.

[mitzi]

The biggest obstacle I'm seeing with the staged abduction/runaway theory is what is she doing for money if that's the case?

Is it possible KC was receiving financial aid for her education? The reason I ask is there was a woman that worked with me last year who was also attending college. When she rec'd her "funds" from whichever financial aid program she was using, they would send her lump sums at different times, and it was sent to her and not the school. The only reason I ever knew this, was she had an expensive auto repair bill, and said she paid it out of her tuition money. I asked her if that would leave her short for books etc, and she said no that because she was a single mom going to school, the money she rec'd was for school, books, and some living expenses. I thought at the time that was strange since she had a full time job, but I know zero about how all of that works.

Is it possible that KC had a similar situation, and may have rec'd a lump sum, cashed it and then kept it with her?

[n/t]

Is it possible KC was receiving financial aid for her education? The reason I ask is there was a woman that worked with me last year who was also attending college. When she rec'd her "funds" from whichever financial aid program she was using, they would send her lump sums at different times, and it was sent to her and not the school. The only reason I ever knew this, was she had an expensive auto repair bill, and said she paid it out of her tuition money. I asked her if that would leave her short for books etc, and she said no that because she was a single mom going to school, the money she rec'd was for school, books, and some living expenses. I thought at the time that was strange since she had a full time job, but I know zero about how all of that works.

Is it possible that KC had a similar situation, and may have rec'd a lump sum, cashed it and then kept it with her?

It could explain some of what DD talked about regarding Kristi having some issues with registration (paperwork?)

I think your theory makes alot of sense.

[just42day97]

Is it possible KC was receiving financial aid for her education? The reason I ask is there was a woman that worked with me last year who was also attending college. When she rec'd her "funds" from whichever financial aid program she was using, they would send her lump sums at different times, and it was sent to her and not the school. The only reason I ever knew this, was she had an expensive auto repair bill, and said she paid it out of her tuition money. I asked her if that would leave her short for books etc, and she said no that because she was a single mom going to school, the money she rec'd was for school, books, and some living expenses. I thought at the time that was strange since she had a full time job, but I know zero about how all of that works.

Is it possible that KC had a similar situation, and may have rec'd a lump sum, cashed it and then kept it with her?

good thinking Mitzi!!
Oh yes..When my Daughter was in college she got a student loan, and she got a lump sum.....

[seemsodd]

Now this is very possible - with it dark out, the perp may not have known there was a house on the lot.

Does anyone know how far Fred Robert's house is off the road, and are there huge trees bordering his property along the road?
(highlighted red by me)




guys.... go to the qpublic.com website...it is a tax appraser website go in to the georgia sites go to the union county site... punch in the names of the people we are discussing it shows a picture of these homes and the landscape... Fred Roberts house would be on the left side of the road heading down 325 toward Nottely Dam rd, at the end of 325 you turn left to reach the dam, you turn right to reach the cannal lake road where the search was done under the bridge, don't rely on any one of us local to give you the correct info you can pull up this info yourself I believe I posted the Union County Tax Assesor's site in an earlier post.

[mitzi]

DD plans to have a benefit concert??? Wow!!!

Also, a quick thought: I believe LE has said there's been no activity on Kristi's bank account or credit cards. Does that imply that she had her wallet -- or even her purse -- with her? Does anyone know?

TIA.

DD was only shown for a few seconds during the story on the news, and while he was talking he didn't mention it. At the end, the report said that DD was planning on having a benefit concert.

I wish I could have gone to the fundraiser since it isn't far away, but it just didn't workout. I would like to have gone to show support as others did, but I will admit - I would have liked to see how DD interacted with other folks there. Someone on topix posted the following:

"He shows up at the skate benefit and in his own words said he was waiting for the news to get there for an interview with him. Well, let her brother do it. It would be more heartfelt and touching. Did he get there early to help set up, fill coolers with ice, cook hotdogs? No, just dressed in his Sunday best to talk about himself. Ugh!"

And that was followed by another poster:

"and he pulled out right behind them when his interview was over!"

[just42day97]

I went out of town for the weekend, I called my son on his cell phone (he lives in a large town in GA) his girlfriend picked up instead of my son it seems he took her cell phone with him instead of his own by mistake I talked to his girl friend for quite a while. My point is, couldn't this same situation have happened in Kristi's case, not to say it actually did happen like my call... however if the BF did have another person's phone when she called his, if the one answering the phone was familiar to Kristi she might do as I did and talk to this person for a while. Far stretched, but it could happen. What would happen to the BF's alibi in this situation?

I read in one of the news articles from this case the LE was checking other cell phone hits in the area.... could the BF still be considered a suspect in this case?

That could be possible...right now anything is possible...
Like I've said at least 20 times here..lol I'm not so sure I think DD had anything to do with Kristi missing....what would his motive be? But some things that he has said sure makes some wonder if he had something to do with this...like others have said...there is just something about him....not sure what yet......

[just42day97]

DD was only shown for a few seconds during the story on the news, and while he was talking he didn't mention it. At the end, the report said that DD was planning on having a benefit concert.

I wish I could have gone to the fundraiser since it isn't far away, but it just didn't workout. I would like to have gone to show support as others did, but I will admit - I would have liked to see how DD interacted with other folks there. Someone on topix posted the following:

"He shows up at the skate benefit and in his own words said he was waiting for the news to get there for an interview with him. Well, let her brother do it. It would be more heartfelt and touching. Did he get there early to help set up, fill coolers with ice, cook hotdogs? No, just dressed in his Sunday best to talk about himself. Ugh!"

And that was followed by another poster:

"and he pulled out right behind them when his interview was over!"



OMG....for real????:ohmy:

[n/t]

DD was only shown for a few seconds during the story on the news, and while he was talking he didn't mention it. At the end, the report said that DD was planning on having a benefit concert.

I wish I could have gone to the fundraiser since it isn't far away, but it just didn't workout. I would like to have gone to show support as others did, but I will admit - I would have liked to see how DD interacted with other folks there. Someone on topix posted the following:

"He shows up at the skate benefit and in his own words said he was waiting for the news to get there for an interview with him. Well, let her brother do it. It would be more heartfelt and touching. Did he get there early to help set up, fill coolers with ice, cook hotdogs? No, just dressed in his Sunday best to talk about himself. Ugh!"

And that was followed by another poster:

"and he pulled out right behind them when his interview was over!"

I'd love to see that interview. Wonder if it'll be posted soon.

[just42day97]

guys.... go to the qpublic.com website...it is a tax appraser website go in to the georgia sites go to the union county site... punch in the names of the people we are discussing it shows a picture of these homes and the landscape... Fred Roberts house would be on the left side of the road heading down 325 toward Nottely Dam rd, at the end of 325 you turn left to reach the dam, you turn right to reach the cannal lake road where the search was done under the bridge, don't rely on any one of us local to give you the correct info you can pull up this info yourself I believe I posted the Union County Tax Assesor's site in an earlier post.


Thanks...looks like that will be a good info resource...:thumbsup:

[Cheri_G]

The issue of cash never stopped the theories regarding NF having run away, but seriously how can someone run away and not have any cash or access to cash? Use someone else's cash?

True enough. But here's what I'm thinking...

In both these cases the victim's are reportedly very friendly, social people which included enjoyment from meeting and interacting with people with like interests on the internet and who seem to like their toys. In NF's case his computer, gaming, and the like. For Kristi we know she liked her motorcycle and going riding with friends.

I may be wrong but I don't believe people suddenly give those things up for no apparent reason. There may have been a defining moment that causes them to suddenly up and leave everything behind, but I think that its the end result of something that has been building over time. And because of that I think that there would have been some kind of noticeable behaviour change before hand. Depression, withdrawing from family and friends, etc.

As far as I know there has been no mention by family and friends of behaviour changes in either case. Social, happy people don't just wake up one morning as anti-social unhappy people who walk away from all that they love on a whim.

[ClimbingRose]

DD was only shown for a few seconds during the story on the news, and while he was talking he didn't mention it. At the end, the report said that DD was planning on having a benefit concert.

I wish I could have gone to the fundraiser since it isn't far away, but it just didn't workout. I would like to have gone to show support as others did, but I will admit - I would have liked to see how DD interacted with other folks there. Someone on topix posted the following:

"He shows up at the skate benefit and in his own words said he was waiting for the news to get there for an interview with him. Well, let her brother do it. It would be more heartfelt and touching. Did he get there early to help set up, fill coolers with ice, cook hotdogs? No, just dressed in his Sunday best to talk about himself. Ugh!"

And that was followed by another poster:

"and he pulled out right behind them when his interview was over!"



There is something seriously wrong here and I pray LE is sniffing around. Why in the world does the media continue to seek him out for interviews? He isn't a family member who by the way has designated a family spokesman. Kristi's family needs to figure a way to sh** him up.

[Mr FATE]

When I was a kid, like 20's, I had a friend that used financial aid to buy a race horse. I don't think those funds are too traceable - but that was then so who knows.

[mitzi]

What I have found odd in this case is that a new poster seems completely obsessed with defending DD. I can understand an "I don't agree with you - lets agree to disagree" mentality after stating their case, but to go from board to board to board sounding completely unhinged about DD - well it makes me wonder. Coldwater has stated before that you never know who you're posting alongside or that you'd be surprised at who you might be posting with - that thought keeps playing over and over in my mind.

You are so right Rainy. That poster keeps turning up like a bad penny.

What I find strange, aside from the rabid defending of a supposed stranger, is some of the other things they have said. Not contributing much to the actual discussion of KC, but wants to tell people which way they DID NOT go. They did not go this way.... they did not go back through town.... WTH? Nobody knows where they did or did not go....do they?

That poster also said DD can't help how many interviews he has done, that it isn't his fault that people call and ask to talk to him. And he can't help what questions he is asked, as that is set up by the segment producer and the interviewer is just asking the questions the producer wanted answered or asked......

Does that seem strange? Maybe, maybe not. (then again, I am probably the only person who didn't know about the segment producer/interviewer thing...lol)

[Cheri_G]

Is it possible KC was receiving financial aid for her education? The reason I ask is there was a woman that worked with me last year who was also attending college. When she rec'd her "funds" from whichever financial aid program she was using, they would send her lump sums at different times, and it was sent to her and not the school. The only reason I ever knew this, was she had an expensive auto repair bill, and said she paid it out of her tuition money. I asked her if that would leave her short for books etc, and she said no that because she was a single mom going to school, the money she rec'd was for school, books, and some living expenses. I thought at the time that was strange since she had a full time job, but I know zero about how all of that works.

Is it possible that KC had a similar situation, and may have rec'd a lump sum, cashed it and then kept it with her?

Its possible something like that happened. There'd be a record of it so if something like that did occur LE would have come across it when they checked her bank records.

[seemsodd]

That could be possible...right now anything is possible...
Like I've said at least 20 times here..lol I'm not so sure I think DD had anything to do with Kristi missing....what would his motive be? But some things that he has said sure makes some wonder if he had something to do with this...like others have said...there is just something about him....not sure what yet......


I'm not sure which way I am leaning on Kristi's dissapearance, staged or an abduction either way the BF could either be an accomplice (That would explain why he's not concerned he know's she's safe and using all the media to get the word out on his ministry or him self) or he could have been involved in her abduction (he doesn't ring sincere to me) if Kristi was talking to someone other than him on the cell phone the night she was missing.

[mitzi]

I'd love to see that interview. Wonder if it'll be posted soon.

I hope so. I checked thier site when I saw it on the midmorning news and after I saw it at noon and nothing yet. For anyone else looking for it, it was our Channel 2 here and the websites is WSBTV.com.

[mitzi]

When it comes to local info, I just want to clarify that seemsodd is local, I am not. I have family there and have been going there for many years, but I am south of Blairsville. Any info I have given on area was from some recollection and some computer help. So anything that I have given that is incorrect, I apologize. It's certainly not intentional.

[just42day97]

When it comes to local info, I just want to clarify that seemsodd is local, I am not. I have family there and have been going there for many years, but I am south of Blairsville. Any info I have given on area was from some recollection and some computer help. So anything that I have given that is incorrect, I apologize. It's certainly not intentional.

well Mitzi I for one don't think you intentionally gave incorrect info...I just am glad we have a few locals (including you) that can help out with info! Thanks to all of you!

[C.Hound]

You are so right Rainy. That poster keeps turning up like a bad penny.

What I find strange, aside from the rabid defending of a supposed stranger, is some of the other things they have said. Not contributing much to the actual discussion of KC, but wants to tell people which way they DID NOT go. They did not go this way.... they did not go back through town.... WTH? Nobody knows where they did or did not go....do they?

That poster also said DD can't help how many interviews he has done, that it isn't his fault that people call and ask to talk to him. And he can't help what questions he is asked, as that is set up by the segment producer and the interviewer is just asking the questions the producer wanted answered or asked......

Does that seem strange? Maybe, maybe not. (then again, I am probably the only person who didn't know about the segment producer/interviewer thing...lol)

OT (or at least partially so), this poster is currently going ballistic at http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php using the same words tossed around on this forum. WTH?!!!

[Mr FATE]

OT (or at least partially so), this poster is currently going ballistic at http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php using the same words tossed around on this forum. WTH?!!!

!?!?WTH?!?! - that girl is obsessed. OBSESSED - O-B-S-E-S-S-E-D

I suspect she is the dinner companion.

And I suspect that there is a way to use someone else's phone to screw an investigation.

Mr Davis threw that out there for a reason. He knew that number would be found on Kristi's phone, I suspect he admitted that intentionally in a pretext to a line of question that was about to arise.

I also suspect that his "alibi" is not stating he was where he states is, well, not completely telling the truth.

I also suspect that there is not a valid reason for him to be using someone else phone when he has his own.

This is my opinion.

[mitzi]

I'm not sure which way I am leaning on Kristi's dissapearance, staged or an abduction either way the BF could either be an accomplice (That would explain why he's not concerned he know's she's safe and using all the media to get the word out on his ministry or him self) or he could have been involved in her abduction (he doesn't ring sincere to me) if Kristi was talking to someone other than him on the cell phone the night she was missing.

bolded by me

I realize this will sound waaaay out there, but it is possible they cooked this up together. In discussions they have had, maybe they came up with a reason why this would be beneficial to one or both of them.

People do strange things sometimes, and sometimes people do outrageous things for someone they love....and sometimes people do desperate things because they so desperately want to or need to be loved.

Totally wacky....I know...just thinking....(and I think I need to get off the coffee today, my brain is going in weird directions....lol..:huh:)

[Pomme]

I find it impossible to believe that the poster currently going ballistic in other areas doesn't know DD.

At any rate, if his behavior in seeking out interviews and leaving immediately after the interview was over is indeed true, then at the very least he's a real poop.

[Mr FATE]

Nor do I believe that someone (a certain poster or his daughter) could know that Kristi called first and Mr Davis was eating dinner and called back 15 minutes later unless they personally witnessed that or that was a "talking point".

If Mr Davis wasn't so gosh darn odd, and we knew more about Kristi's life and more about the conversation, I could decide for myself what may have happened to her...

Mr. Davis is so "different" and such an attention seeker while his "future wife" is missing, that I can't make up my mind and go in any one direction. I bet others are having this same problem.

Not that my opinion matters, and it doesn't to LE, but I bet they are perplexed by Mr Davis.

[seemsodd]

I find it impossible to believe that the poster currently going ballistic in other areas doesn't know DD.

At any rate, if his behavior in seeking out interviews and leaving immediately after the interview was over is indeed true, then at the very least he's a real poop.


I don't know DD, I don't know Kristi enough to have an opinion one way or another.. Maybe I watch to much CSI or NG... FBI/GBI/LE nobody is giving out info on a crime that has happened in my community the opinions of what has happened to Kristi are all over the board up here I haven't formed an opinion one way or another anything is possible at this point at least on this site there are ideas of what could have happened or might have happened if I just listened to local gossip DD would have been in jail without a trial that may or may not be the right end to this mystery .. I like to keep an open mind.

[Mr FATE]

One more point and I'll shut up for a little while.:thumbsup: :tonguewag::lol:

Supposedly, the family has a "gag order" ..... I am guessing that Mr Davis didn't get that memo.

<< wonders why and scratches head >>

[just42day97]

I don't know DD, I don't know Kristi enough to have an opinion one way or another.. Maybe I watch to much CSI or NG... FBI/GBI/LE nobody is giving out info on a crime that has happened in my community the opinions of what has happened to Kristi are all over the board up here I haven't formed an opinion one way or another anything is possible at this point at least on this site there are ideas of what could have happened or might have happened if I just listened to local gossip DD would have been in jail without a trial that may or may not be the right end to this mystery .. I like to keep an open mind.

Oh Wow...so the local gossip is that DD had something to do with Kristi missing?
I've had this feeling that Kristi's family doesn't care for him...just how they skirted around the questions about him when media asked. Also the Dad's statement about watching who you meet on the internet

[just42day97]

One more point and I'll shut up for a little while.:thumbsup: :tonguewag::lol:

Supposedly, the family has a "gag order" ..... I am guessing that Mr Davis didn't get that memo.

<< wonders why and scratches head >>



lol Fate....
I wonder if it has anything to do with a rope??..lol

[Ice Cycle]

I'm not sure which way I am leaning on Kristi's dissapearance, staged or an abduction either way the BF could either be an accomplice (That would explain why he's not concerned he know's she's safe and using all the media to get the word out on his ministry or him self) or he could have been involved in her abduction (he doesn't ring sincere to me) if Kristi was talking to someone other than him on the cell phone the night she was missing.

Well my reason for leaning that he was not involved is based on several of the Media reports early on that state that Kristi's brother says DD and the ex's had been ruled out (Someone posted a link early on). Then their's been media reports that there was someone else with him when he made the call to her Mother (but I believe that was from gagirl). Their is also a link somewhere where he states he passed a LDT, of course that is just from him and that is the thing, none of this has came directly from LE as well as nothing about this case as far as I know.

[Mr FATE]

lol Fate....
I wonder if it has anything to do with a rope??..lol

!!roflmao!!


Good one just42day97 :thumbup:

[Mr FATE]

Ok, I fibb'd a little - last point.

Let's say Mr Davis DID take the polygraph. He said he took one and passed. If that's correct, the police are probable not believing that he is completely free and clear based on just the cell phone triangulation.

The polygraph could have been used to see if he had an accomplice but if the cell phone triangulation was the "be all end all" there would be no need for a polygraph.

Maybe they didn't buy his story about the phone calls.

Also, I'm not sure that the polygraph examiner would tell the subject he passed or failed. That would be info that might be guarded.