8/27

[daniel green]

[Updated 3:40 p.m.: But two sources familiar with the investigation told The Times that authorities tested the substance believed to be heroin and the tests came back negative. The sources -- who spoke on the condition that they not be named because it was an ongoing investigation -- also said that heroin was not present in Jackson’s system. It is unclear how the heroin reference made it into the warrant, which was issued last week.]

The search warrant claimed that the "heroin" was found in his bedroom, an area that authorities said in the court papers was off-limits to anyone but Jackson and his children. The marijuana was found later in an unspecified area of the house. According to the search warrant, written by LAPD Det. Orlando Martinez, family members found the heroin after Jackson's death and alerted the coroner's office. Authorities then searched the house and found two baggies of marijuana, according to the court papers.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/heroin-marijuana-found-in-michael-jacksons-home.html

[Cindylee]

Not really when you consider the death of a long standing American senator yesterday, and the reunion of a 29 year old woman with her Mother after having been kinapped 18 years ago, first reported today. aren't exactly slow news days.

Not speaking for Daniel, but I think that was her point. With all of this other news, are they thinking maybe it will slip under the radar. Maybe?

[GentleBreeze]

Well... I guess my christian background blinds me to that line of thinking.

I think all of God's children have both good and bad in them. Humans are far from perfect even though some try to pretend they are.

I believe in seeing the goodness in people. I also believe in forgiveness even for those who have hurt me.

Negativity seeks negativity.

I am glad I do not hate anyone. Hate is a terrible thing and anger is the most wasted time one will ever spend, imo.

imo

[?WudScoobyDo]

That is nice. I myself hope for one that Hitler is roasting. But, that is just me. O/T sorry.


I will believe that you aren't comparing Hitler to MJ, but it is a statement that could be interpreted as such. Just saying...

[daniel green]

Not speaking for Daniel, but I think that was her point. With all of this other news, are they thinking maybe it will slip under the radar. Maybe?

Oh, please speak for me at any time!!! :biggrin:

Fridays are considered the news dump day, because nobody pays attention. And tomorrow, with all the news about Sen Kennedy, may he RIP, and throughout the weekend, it seems like a strategic plan for a police dpt to make a news dump--and no press conference, just a document.

[Cindylee]

I will believe that you aren't comparing Hitler to MJ, but it is a statement that could be interpreted as such. Just saying...

Oh for goodness sakes. GMAB. Read my post that you originally responded to. You are fishing. :cursing:

[daniel green]

Could we please leave our moral highgrounds at the gate? There is something so cloying about patting oneself on one's back for being better and more decent than other posters.

TIA

[Roxxanne]

Not speaking for Daniel, but I think that was her point. With all of this other news, are they thinking maybe it will slip under the radar. Maybe?

Why would they want that?

[Cindylee]

Why would they want that?

Don't have a clue. I am really not saying they are.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Not speaking for Daniel, but I think that was her point. With all of this other news, are they thinking maybe it will slip under the radar. Maybe?

They who? I think she was continuing her pattern of purely degrading, no value posts to express her dislike of a dead man.

[retiredcop]

Valisone--Rx strength cortisone cream


I wonder if this was for his bed sores or his needle mark blotches.

Nothing much in these S/W.

in my opinion

[daniel green]

RetiredCop--those 2 creams, the antifungal and the cortisone, could be used for bed sores, yes.

[daniel green]

Don't have a clue. I am really not saying they are.

Well, who knows.

But the LAPD is very experienced at handling these things and timing.

It just doesn't seem coincidental to me.

[Cindylee]

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He said he didnt get the letter,

I think he lied.

[daniel green]

Klein's atty Dermatologist Arnold Klein knows he's the father of Michael Jackson's two oldest kids, Prince, 12 and Paris, 11, his lawyer admits to Usmagazine.com. "There was a possibility that the two older kids could be biologically linked to Dr. Klein. And Dr. Klein was well aware," his lawyer, Mark Vincent Kaplan, tells Us when explaining why he was present at a guardianship hearing for Jackson's children.


http://www.usmagazine.com/news/lawyer-arnold-klein-well-aware-hes-father-of-michael-jackson-kids-2009278

He was on ET this evening, saying same thing.

[?WudScoobyDo]

RetiredCop--those 2 creams, the antifungal and the cortisone, could be used for bed sores, yes.

You seem to have some kind of fixation for bed sores. You do realize that many of the elderly and immobile patients suffer from them. Do you find something shameful in them, and thats why you keep posting about them?

[daniel green]

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another excuse. imo

I wouldn't even mind an excuse or two or 100, but thousands? And one more fantastical than the next? :confused:

[?WudScoobyDo]

-----------------------

What about the kids being in the rented house with all the drugs. I guess that was ok. imo


Of course its not okay, which is the reason for a criminal homicide investigation in which one or more will likely be brought to justice sometime in the future. By the way it would be the same in either rental property or owned property..in case that wasn't clear to you.

[Cindylee]

You seem to have some kind of fixation for bed sores. You do realize that many of the elderly and immobile patients suffer from them. Do you find something shameful in them, and thats why you keep posting about them?

Elderly and immobile, why would MJ have them?

[?WudScoobyDo]

Elderly and immobile, why would MJ have them?

I don't know that he did, without access to his medical records or the autopsy report. I have only heard it said by DanielGreen.

[daniel green]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543880,00.html

[daniel green]

A designation of homicide means that Jackson died at the hands of another, but does not necessarily mean a crime was committed. Forensic tests found the powerful anesthetic propofol acted together with at least two sedatives to cause Jackson’s death June 25 in his rented Los Angeles mansion, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the findings have not been publicly released.

Besides the propofol and two sedatives, the coroner’s toxicology report found other substances in Jackson’s system but they were not believed to have been a factor in the singer’s death, the official told the AP. When he died, Jackson was skinny but not overly emaciated, and his body had bed sores, the official said. The singer is believed to have developed bed sores in the months following his 2005 acquittal of child molestation charges, when he went into seclusion and spent long stretches in bed.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32542682/ns/entertainment-music/

[Cindylee]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32542682/ns/entertainment-music/ And those bed sores weren't cured in four years???? That is really strange. Maybe they meant scars from bed sores..... or something???

[daniel green]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32588613/ns/entertainment-music/

[daniel green]

And those bed sores weren't cured in four years???? That is really strange. Maybe they meant scars from bed sores..... or something???

Seems, as reports have said, that he would spend wks in bed, sedated and/or anesthesized at a time.

[Cindylee]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32588613/ns/entertainment-music/ It is to bad he didn't just smoke pot.

[daniel green]

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Debbie+Rowe+reported+Jackson+doctor+police+reports/1936432/story.html

[Unperson1984]

pg 3/3 of Affidavit

No staff was allowed to leave ground floor or go upstairs.

No other adults other than MJ lived in the house

Jackson families called LAPD and said they had found heroin in MJ's
bedroom

How did they recognize it as heroin? I wouldn’t know heroin if it was laying on my desk.

:confused:

[?WudScoobyDo]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32588613/ns/entertainment-music/


Probably just one of many many prescribed medications.

[Roxxanne]

--------------

I have every intention. thanks

You're welcome.

[Cindylee]

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Debbie+Rowe+reported+Jackson+doctor+police+reports/1936432/story.html

Wow, that is interesting. Wonder if that is true?

[daniel green]

Klein introduced Jackson to nurse Debbie Rowe, the pop star’s ex-wife and the mother of two of his three children.Prescribing, administering or furnishing a controlled substance to oneself is a violation of the California Health and Safety code, experts said. If the allegations are proved, the DEA could strip Klein of his ability to prescribe medication, said Special Agent Jose Martinez, a DEA spokesman. Klein also could lose his medical license and face criminal charges, Martinez said.

Klein’s attorney, Garo Ghazarian, declined to comment on the matter until he had reviewed the documents, but told the DEA that Klein “has never self-prescribed,” according to the affidavit. In addition to Klein, several other doctors also had self-prescribed medication using Mickey Fine Pharmacy, according to court records.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/michael-jacksons-dermatologis-allegedly-prescribed-drugs-to-himself.html

[daniel green]

Wow, that is interesting. Wonder if that is true?

Oh, I think it is. It certainly is what I thought when I read that Affidavit.

[Cindylee]

How did they recognize it as heroin? I wouldn’t know heroin if it was laying on my desk.

:confused:

:scared: good question.

[daniel green]

How did they recognize it as heroin? I wouldn’t know heroin if it was laying on my desk.

:confused:

Ain't that the truth.

And TAR heroin, at that. :ohmy:

[Cindylee]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/michael-jacksons-dermatologis-allegedly-prescribed-drugs-to-himself.html

I have thought for a long time that Kline was going down. I know that isn't a big surprise for anyone. hehehe

[daniel green]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jOUx-Vc-VwCiBD56bfWx0dhK8wPAD9ABJ7TO0

[Cindylee]

------------

Well said, Cindy. If everyone had the same opinion, there would be no one here. Wanna bet? imoNo I don't wanna bet. I would lose. How boring if we all had the same opinion. Different opinions make the internet go round. :wink::biggrin:

[?WudScoobyDo]

Ain't that the truth.

And TAR heroin, at that. :ohmy:

Its pretty simple really. You google heroin, and look at pictures.:rolleyes:

[Cindylee]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jOUx-Vc-VwCiBD56bfWx0dhK8wPAD9ABJ7TO0

I said before, that that was a good choice for him. :wink:

[Cindylee]

Its pretty simple really. You google heroin, and look at pictures.:rolleyes:

I wouldn't know what tar heroin looked like. Do you think the Jackson's went home and googled it?

[GentleBreeze]

I wouldn't know what tar heroin looked like. Do you think the Jackson's went home and googled it?

Looks like they made a wild guess because it wasn't tar heroin at all but some old rancid marijuana.

imo

[Cindylee]

Looks like they made a wild guess because it wasn't tar heroin at all but some old rancid marijuana.

imo

I guess. ...

[daniel green]

I wouldn't know what tar heroin looked like. Do you think the Jackson's went home and googled it?

The very idea of that just made me laugh out loud.

[Unperson1984]

Ain't that the truth.

And TAR heroin, at that. :ohmy:

I don't even know what that is, let alone what it looks like.

Another question, when I saw the truck pull up to the rented house on that Sunday uniformed LAPD officers showed up shortly thereafter and kept the media away, why didn't the Jacksons report finding the drugs to one of the officers present?

If Murray is charged his defense attorney is going a field day with this mess. IMO

[Cindylee]

I don't even know what that is, let alone what it looks like.

Another question, when I saw the truck pull up to the rented house on that Sunday uniformed LAPD officers showed up shortly thereafter and kept the media away, why didn't the Jacksons report finding the drugs to one of the officers present?

If Murray is charged his defense attorney is going a field day with this mess. IMO

I think you just may be right about that. Other than what Murray's own statements were.

[daniel green]

I don't even know what that is, let alone what it looks like.

Another question, when I saw the truck pull up to the rented house on that Sunday uniformed LAPD officers showed up shortly thereafter and kept the media away, why didn't the Jacksons report finding the drugs to one of the officers present?

If Murray is charged his defense attorney is going a field day with this mess. IMO

Here is what it looks like:

http://www.lodinews.com/heroin/images/h_users.jpg

Good question, unperson. One would think that they would have.

And, yeah, what a total cluster of a mess.

[Cindylee]

Here is what it looks like:

http://www.lodinews.com/heroin/images/h_users.jpg

Good question, unperson. One would think that they would have.

And, yeah, what a total cluster of a mess.

Ewww. Looks like bird poop. How could that look like pot?

[daniel green]

Ewww. Looks like bird poop. How could that look like pot?

It just makes NO sense. :confused:

[daniel green]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/abc_Heroin1_080929_mn.jpg

[?WudScoobyDo]

The very idea of that just made me laugh out loud.


I laughed louder to see that you were the first one to google and post a link to pictures of it.

[?WudScoobyDo]

I don't even know what that is, let alone what it looks like.

Another question, when I saw the truck pull up to the rented house on that Sunday uniformed LAPD officers showed up shortly thereafter and kept the media away, why didn't the Jacksons report finding the drugs to one of the officers present?

If Murray is charged his defense attorney is going a field day with this mess. IMO


How would that mess even be relevant. MJ died from propofol, and Murry admitted administering it to him. Why would the judge even allow it in?

[?WudScoobyDo]

BET Networks is celebrating Michael Jackson's birthday weekend with a number of specials honoring his memory, beginning with tonight's 10 p.m. broadcast of "Michael Jackson: Life of a Superstar."

[retiredcop]

Its pretty simple really. You google heroin, and look at pictures.:rolleyes:


:laugh::laugh:

[Cindylee]

Michael Jackson Flunked His Credit Report

Posted Aug 28th 2009 12:35AM by TMZ Staff

Here's a shocker -- Michael Jackson had an abysmally low credit score.

TMZ has learned that in 2007, Jacko's average credit score was 563.67 (Equifax 592, Transunion: 524, Experian: 575) which most experts consider very low. (According to creditreport.com, the average credit rating for people in California is 672.)

The reasons for MJ's credit woes ... We're told he was dinged for several reasons, including:

-- A derogatory public record or collection filed
-- The amount owed on delinquent accounts
-- Number of accounts with delinquency
-- Too many inquiries last 12 months

We've also learned Barneys New York actually shut down Jacko's credit line after he racked up more than $224,000 in one billing cycle, this according to Jacko's credit report.

MJ's troubles seem to have stemmed from a large net worth but nearly no disposable income. As we reported earlier, MJ's "Cash in Bank" was $668,215 -- or .05% of his net worth.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRxRPN32

[Cindylee]

MJ's Former Pharmacy -- What the DEA Seized

Posted Aug 28th 2009 12:25AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has obtained a document showing what the DEA removed from Mickey Fine Pharmacy last week -- the place that sued Michael in 2007 for non-payment of a bill of more than $100,000.



The doc shows on August 21, the DEA took "60 prescriptions, 29 patient print-outs, 3 copies of DEA Forms 222 (Order Forms), and copies of inventories of controlled substances."

Mickey Fine was used extensively by Dr. Arnold Klein and other doctors who treated Michael -- it's also where Jackson obtained prescriptions
for Demerol and many other drugs.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRxsd2vc

[impartial]

How did they recognize it as heroin? I wouldn’t know heroin if it was laying on my desk.

:confused:


What have I missed?

Been out all day. Would love a quick synopsis. Where's that begging icon when you need one.

TIA !!!!

[?WudScoobyDo]

Michael Jackson Flunked His Credit Report

Posted Aug 28th 2009 12:35AM by TMZ Staff

Here's a shocker -- Michael Jackson had an abysmally low credit score.

TMZ has learned that in 2007, Jacko's average credit score was 563.67 (Equifax 592, Transunion: 524, Experian: 575) which most experts consider very low. (According to creditreport.com, the average credit rating for people in California is 672.)

The reasons for MJ's credit woes ... We're told he was dinged for several reasons, including:

-- A derogatory public record or collection filed
-- The amount owed on delinquent accounts
-- Number of accounts with delinquency
-- Too many inquiries last 12 months

We've also learned Barneys New York actually shut down Jacko's credit line after he racked up more than $224,000 in one billing cycle, this according to Jacko's credit report.

MJ's troubles seem to have stemmed from a large net worth but nearly no disposable income. As we reported earlier, MJ's "Cash in Bank" was $668,215 -- or .05% of his net worth.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRxRPN32


As if that really matters now. I guess Tohme wasn't the business/financial manager he claimed to be.

[?WudScoobyDo]

What have I missed?

Been out all day. Would love a quick synopsis. Where's that begging icon when you need one.

TIA !!!!


You mean besides me? :laugh:

TMZ has been busy tonight, most is posted upthread. and I think I read they will be announcing the coroner report and cod tomorrow.

[?WudScoobyDo]

MJ's Former Pharmacy -- What the DEA Seized

Posted Aug 28th 2009 12:25AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has obtained a document showing what the DEA removed from Mickey Fine Pharmacy last week -- the place that sued Michael in 2007 for non-payment of a bill of more than $100,000.



The doc shows on August 21, the DEA took "60 prescriptions, 29 patient print-outs, 3 copies of DEA Forms 222 (Order Forms), and copies of inventories of controlled substances."

Mickey Fine was used extensively by Dr. Arnold Klein and other doctors who treated Michael -- it's also where Jackson obtained prescriptions
for Demerol and many other drugs.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRxsd2vc

Looks like Mickey aint looking so fine now.

[Cindylee]

Looks like Mickey aint looking so fine now.
Micky is going down, would be my guess.

[Unperson1984]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/abc_Heroin1_080929_mn.jpg

It comes in colors? Like M & Ms

[impartial]

You mean besides me? :laugh:

TMZ has been busy tonight, most is posted upthread. and I think I read they will be announcing the coroner report and cod tomorrow.

:laugh:


That'd be nice ... see if it really says lethal level of diprivan.

Thanks !

[impartial]

Where did everybody go?

Is it ditch impartial day?


danielgreen, what affidavit are you referring to regarding the heroin? Or are you gonna make me :read:. Don't usually mind catching up, it's just so dang hot here, making me lazy/crazy.

:smile:

[Unperson1984]

What have I missed?

Been out all day. Would love a quick synopsis. Where's that begging icon when you need one.

TIA !!!!

I got here late too!

[Unperson1984]

Where did everybody go?

Is it ditch impartial day?


danielgreen, what affidavit are you referring to regarding the heroin? Or are you gonna make me :read:. Don't usually mind catching up, it's just so dang hot here, making me lazy/crazy.

:smile:

PV is burning, we can see the orange glow.

[impartial]

PV is burning, we can see the orange glow.


Oh wow, when did that start?

[?WudScoobyDo]

Where did everybody go?

Is it ditch impartial day?


danielgreen, what affidavit are you referring to regarding the heroin? Or are you gonna make me :read:. Don't usually mind catching up, it's just so dang hot here, making me lazy/crazy.

:smile:

Try here:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/08/78015/index.html

ps.. at 2:30 today my car thermometer said 106

[Unperson1984]

Oh wow, when did that start?

About 5, some homes have already been lost.

[?WudScoobyDo]

About 5, some homes have already been lost.

Is that Palos Verdes Estates?

[Rayosunshine]

Try here:

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/08/78015/index.html

ps.. at 2:30 today my car thermometer said 106

106? How awful. We are having unusually cooler, dryer weather in South Louisiana for this time of the year. I blame it on the fact that I am not having to work until October. Last year, at this time, my car thermometer read 104 and I was tempted to put tape on it, so I couldn't see it (I work all day from my car).

[impartial]

Is that Palos Verdes Estates?


Yes, and thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

[?WudScoobyDo]

106? How awful. We are having unusually cooler, dryer weather in South Louisiana for this time of the year. I blame it on the fact that I am not having to work until October. Last year, at this time, my car thermometer read 104 and I was tempted to put tape on it, so I couldn't see it (I work all day from my car).


It is awful, and then we get these fires and smoke and ash falls everywhere. But that Louisiana humidity is no picnic either.

[Unperson1984]

Is that Palos Verdes Estates?

Yes, it's burning near Wayfarer's Chapel, aka The Glass Church.

106! You must be Inland.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Yes, and thanks for the link. :thumbsup:

Thanks, I just saw on the news. I work with someone who lives there. I hope he doesn't lose his home.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Yes, it's burning near Wayfarer's Chapel, aka The Glass Church.

106! You must be Inland.


Anaheim, close to Knotts.

[impartial]

It is awful, and then we get these fires and smoke and ash falls everywhere. But that Louisiana humidity is no picnic either.


Next we'll get the floods ... supposed to be an el ninio year.

I was in Riverside today, hot there, but here at the coast, it was 97 at 7:45 pm. My poor duck was panting like mad, the guinea pigs are moulting, and my dog is miserable. Add to that the twins and no air conditioning. Fun day all in all. :w00t:

Who was it that called it earlier, perhaps yesterday, that Debbie Rowe was the annonymous caller about the alias's ... good job!

[Unperson1984]

Anaheim, close to Knotts.

And Disneyland! A place Impartial and I are both familiar with.

:smile:

[?WudScoobyDo]

And Disneyland! A place Impartial and I are both familiar with.

:smile:

I knew that. And yes, I can see (and hear) the fireworks show every night.

[Unperson1984]

Next we'll get the floods ... supposed to be an el ninio year.

I was in Riverside today, hot there, but here at the coast, it was 97 at 7:45 pm. My poor duck was panting like mad, the guinea pigs are moulting, and my dog is miserable. Add to that the twins and no air conditioning. Fun day all in all. :w00t:

Who was it that called it earlier, perhaps yesterday, that Debbie Rowe was the annonymous caller about the alias's ... good job!

We also learned that the Jackson family reported there were drugs at MJ's house. Failure to secure that house is going to cause LAPD a lot of trouble.

Sounds like a great day! It was about 90 here, but I had to go downtown. Miserable!!!

[?WudScoobyDo]

The unsealed warrants provide a glimpse into how police were directing their investigation immediately after Jackson's death. The warrant served at his rented Bel-Air mansion the day after he died lists "PC 187," the California penal code for murder, in the box labeled "probable crime."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iMkoNA7ANMxeUu2iZ9hdf_Vr1FfQD9ABIUNO3

[Unperson1984]

The unsealed warrants provide a glimpse into how police were directing their investigation immediately after Jackson's death. The warrant served at his rented Bel-Air mansion the day after he died lists "PC 187," the California penal code for murder, in the box labeled "probable crime."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iMkoNA7ANMxeUu2iZ9hdf_Vr1FfQD9ABIUNO3

It's the Homicide Code.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Next we'll get the floods ... supposed to be an el ninio year.

I was in Riverside today, hot there, but here at the coast, it was 97 at 7:45 pm. My poor duck was panting like mad, the guinea pigs are moulting, and my dog is miserable. Add to that the twins and no air conditioning. Fun day all in all. :w00t:

Who was it that called it earlier, perhaps yesterday, that Debbie Rowe was the annonymous caller about the alias's ... good job!

One of my cats moulted (sp?) two summers ago. I tell people its proof of global warming. By the way I have 1 and a half cats too many, want to add to your collection?

[?WudScoobyDo]

It's the Homicide Code.


I read somewhere today what I thought said 187 and when I looked it up, it said justifiable homicide, and then just now when I read that article I got confused and I googled pc 187 or 185 (I'm still confused) and it came up with "It is unlawful for a person to wear a mask or false whiskers.... I didnt open it up to see what the rest of it said. But it cracked me up.

[impartial]

The unsealed warrants provide a glimpse into how police were directing their investigation immediately after Jackson's death. The warrant served at his rented Bel-Air mansion the day after he died lists "PC 187," the California penal code for murder, in the box labeled "probable crime."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iMkoNA7ANMxeUu2iZ9hdf_Vr1FfQD9ABIUNO3



From the link:

Klein's involvement in the case raised questions about the whether the doctor could be the father of Jackson's two oldest children, a rumor fueled by tabloid reports and Klein's own cryptic answers when questioned on the matter.


:ohmy: I didn't know there was a rumor in the tabloids that Klein was the father of the two oldest children.

[Unperson1984]

I read somewhere today what I thought said 187 and when I looked it up, it said justifiable homicide, and then just now when I read that article I got confused and I googled pc 187 or 185 (I'm still confused) and it came up with "It is unlawful for a person to wear a mask or false whiskers.... I didnt open it up to see what the rest of it said. But it cracked me up.

I guess that rules out being a cat for Halloween...

:lol:

[impartial]

I read somewhere today what I thought said 187 and when I looked it up, it said justifiable homicide, and then just now when I read that article I got confused and I googled pc 187 or 185 (I'm still confused) and it came up with "It is unlawful for a person to wear a mask or false whiskers.... I didnt open it up to see what the rest of it said. But it cracked me up.


Too funny.

[?WudScoobyDo]

From the link:

Klein's involvement in the case raised questions about the whether the doctor could be the father of Jackson's two oldest children, a rumor fueled by tabloid reports and Klein's own cryptic answers when questioned on the matter.


:ohmy: I didn't know there was a rumor in the tabloids that Klein was the father of the two oldest children.


He created that rumor on Larry King when he said he donated sperm to a bank, and he didnt know if he was the father or not. I can't imagine anyone purposely choosing his sperm to create children for them.

[impartial]

One of my cats moulted (sp?) two summers ago. I tell people its proof of global warming. By the way I have 1 and a half cats too many, want to add to your collection?



Afraid to ask about the half cat.

:chicken:

[impartial]

I guess that rules out being a cat for Halloween...

:lol:


:lol: :thumbup:

[Unperson1984]

From the link:

Klein's involvement in the case raised questions about the whether the doctor could be the father of Jackson's two oldest children, a rumor fueled by tabloid reports and Klein's own cryptic answers when questioned on the matter.


:ohmy: I didn't know there was a rumor in the tabloids that Klein was the father of the two oldest children.

MJ seems to have collected sperm from every male he knew. Can you imagine asking someone for that type of donation???

[?WudScoobyDo]

I guess that rules out being a cat for Halloween...

:lol:


Thats funny. Just so no one thinks I'm too nutty, here it is:


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[Unperson1984]

He created that rumor on Larry King when he said he donated sperm to a bank, and he didnt know if he was the father or not. I can't imagine anyone purposely choosing his sperm to create children for them.

We've heard MJ asked at least two men, Mark Lester and Klein. Strange.

[impartial]

He created that rumor on Larry King when he said he donated sperm to a bank, and he didnt know if he was the father or not. I can't imagine anyone purposely choosing his sperm to create children for them.


What an odd thing to say. Sperm donation for a specific donee doesn't go to a bank; it's collected by the transferring MD.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Afraid to ask about the half cat.

:chicken:


Someone dumped a mom cat and her kitten in my backyard. I don't have the heart to take them to the pound, but I can't keep them either.

[impartial]

Someone dumped a mom cat and her kitten in my backyard. I don't have the heart to take them to the pound, but I can't keep them either.


I can hear Unperson's wheels turning from here.

:wink:

[?WudScoobyDo]

We've heard MJ asked at least two men, Mark Lester and Klein. Strange.


I don't really get that. There is nothing special about either of those two men, and really..Michael was gifted and I think his own sperm would have sufficed nicely. I just can't comprehend that MJ would consider them prime doners. I will admit though, that Blanket does look like Marlon Brandon's son, Miko, who I would pick over either of those other two losers.

[?WudScoobyDo]

I can hear Unperson's wheels turning from here.

:wink:

hmm.. I wish I could find a good home for them. The Mom cat is the most loving cat I ever met. She wants to be petted so bad, that she puts her paw on my hand and then starts licking me. She looks pregnant to me too, and its really breaking my heart and I don't know what to do with them. If I lived in Seal Beach, I could take them to their shelter, and they don't kill ..ever, but you have to be a resident. I've thought of taking them to Leisure World, and maybe someone would take them in or to the shelter. I would just feel so awful dumping them and driving away.

[impartial]

hmm.. I wish I could find a good home for them. The Mom cat is the most loving cat I ever met. She wants to be petted so bad, that she puts her paw on my hand and then starts licking me. She looks pregnant to me too, and its really breaking my heart and I don't know what to do with them. If I lived in Seal Beach, I could take them to their shelter, and they don't kill ..ever, but you have to be a resident. I've thought of taking them to Leisure World, and maybe someone would take them in or to the shelter. I would just feel so awful dumping them and driving away.


Oh, she sounds so sweet. I wish I could help, but I'm allergic.

Have you tried Craig's list?

[?WudScoobyDo]

Oh, she sounds so sweet. I wish I could help, but I'm allergic.

Have you tried Craig's list?

I thought about it, but with all the recent nuts to come out of there, I'm not sure. I did find my job off craigslist. and its the best job in the world, I don't know if I shoud push the statistics too much, by thinking I could get lucky twice in one place.

[?WudScoobyDo]

You all have been busy today. :)

If Klein self-prescribed that is drug trafficing !!! :ohmy:

trafficking right through his blood stream. Someone posted the code the other day that prohibits self prescribing.

I never have trusted Doctors, and Klein seems to be the poster child for creepy doctors.

[?WudScoobyDo]

I'm allergic and I have 3 cats because of my children and my kids don't live here anymore ..... grr :laugh:

I bet the kids caused you more headaches than the cats, I know mine have.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Maybe MJ thought his biological children would inherit his lupus or vitiligo but I agree with you on the choice of donors -- ewww

Michael said they are his own, and I've never seen proof that they aren't. I don't necessarily think they look 100 % caucasian, especially Paris. I think I've said this before, but who know under which nic. haha

[?WudScoobyDo]

Here is what it looks like:

http://www.lodinews.com/heroin/images/h_users.jpg

Good question, unperson. One would think that they would have.

And, yeah, what a total cluster of a mess.


Now go google hashish, and look at the pictures, and you will know why it tested negative for heroin. By the way hash is also a legally prescribed medication, whereas heroin is not.

[?WudScoobyDo]

What reports? Not saying this cannot be true -- but how can Debbie Rowe "anonymously" report Dr. Klein and there be a report that it was her?

Because DG said so. Your post made me laugh. It sounds so sensible the way you put it.

[?WudScoobyDo]

The baggy this stuff was found in had a medical label with Dr Murray's name on it -- maybe it was just used to spit out chewing tobacco !!! :laugh:
They said it wasn't heroin but they did not ID what it was.


Actually the pot that you purchase legally for medicinal purposes and the hash too... are all in a labled containers of some sort.

[?WudScoobyDo]

Oh -- I'm just getting caught up -- was what was in the bag ID'd?

I'm not sure, but you know if it had been something sinister, it would have been posted all over the thread. I am going to read the warrant when I hit the bed. Go to the link thread and look at the youtube video of mj's spirital advisor. Its some scary stuff going on.