8/26/09 - Discussion

[Cheri_G]

I thought I'd go ahead and start a new daily thread since it hasn't been done yet.

I, like many others, would like to see the questions about the phone calls cleared up. Specifically a detailed timeline so we can see clearly what took place, when, and by who (or is it "whom")?

While I do find it odd that Davis reportedly called Kristi's mom first rather than 911, I find his attitude that it should be obvious to everyone that because his phone records show a call in Atlanta that he is clearly innocent of any involvement in Kristi's abduction.

I'm not saying that he is involved, but his assertions on the matter did put me in mind of Michael Jacques who I believe thought the surveillance video of he and Brooke Bennett leaving a store going in opposite directions would automatically clear him of any suspicion that he was involved in what happened to her.

I'd feel a lot better if all this was clarified as well as some confirmation of the claims that Davis was with a dinner partner whose phone was also used in trying to get help to Kristi.

[n/t]

Good Morning Cheri and all,

I agree that it would be great for LE to clarify some of the confusion regarding the phone calls.

I'd also like to bring forward Rainy's question posted on yesterday's thread regarding the "evidence of a struggle". Any thoughts? What else could there possible be? A piece of clothing found?

08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,535

Thinking back to signs of a struggle.....what could that be? I know there was a case recently of a lady in a park who was abducted and they knew there were signs of a struggle because her coffee cup was turned over, papers everywhere, etc., but haven't we only heard about a shoe? What other things would indicate there was a struggle? Any ideas?

[just42day97]

Good Morning Cheri and all,

I agree that it would be great for LE to clarify some of the confusion regarding the phone calls.

I'd also like to bring forward Rainy's question posted on yesterday's thread regarding the "evidence of a struggle". Any thoughts? What else could there possible be? A piece of clothing found?

08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,535

Thinking back to signs of a struggle.....what could that be? I know there was a case recently of a lady in a park who was abducted and they knew there were signs of a struggle because her coffee cup was turned over, papers everywhere, etc., but haven't we only heard about a shoe? What other things would indicate there was a struggle? Any ideas?


Good question...the only other thing I know of is DD saying he heard a struggle over the phone..:confused:

[n/t]

Good question...the only other thing I know of is DD saying he heard a struggle over the phone..:confused:

GBI said they have evidence of a struggle. :shrug:

ETA: Do you mean that's the evidence? Heck, I hope that's not the case. Geeeesh

[just42day97]

GBI said they have evidence of a struggle. :shrug:

ETA: Do you mean that's the evidence? Heck, I hope that's not the case. Geeeesh

I'm hoping thats not all the evidence.....You know maybe they have something elese they have not released yet...a piace of torn clothing?? something like that...But all I have heard of so far is the shoe and what DD said he heard....LE really hasn't released much at all on this case...Which makes me think it may be someone she know that LE is looking at. If it were a stranger I would think they would release more info...but everything is so tight to the chest..also...the "gag" order that the family says they are under now..kinda strange....

[Cheri_G]

Good Morning Cheri and all,

I agree that it would be great for LE to clarify some of the confusion regarding the phone calls.

I'd also like to bring forward Rainy's question posted on yesterday's thread regarding the "evidence of a struggle". Any thoughts? What else could there possible be? A piece of clothing found?

08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,535

Thinking back to signs of a struggle.....what could that be? I know there was a case recently of a lady in a park who was abducted and they knew there were signs of a struggle because her coffee cup was turned over, papers everywhere, etc., but haven't we only heard about a shoe? What other things would indicate there was a struggle? Any ideas?

They had said personal items were found that showed evidence of a struggle. So maybe a piece of jewelry, a shoe, ripped clothing...?

What they haven't said that I've wondered about is if there were any other signs of a struggle. Things like trampled grass beside the road, scuff marks in the dirt on the side of the road, shoe imprints of any kind, etc.

[doradoll]

They had said personal items were found that showed evidence of a struggle. So maybe a piece of jewelry, a shoe, ripped clothing...?

What they haven't said that I've wondered about is if there were any other signs of a struggle. Things like trampled grass beside the road, scuff marks in the dirt on the side of the road, shoe imprints of any kind, etc.

we kept hearing about flip flops in the beginning; maybe they found one or both and the mother was sure they were her's

If this has already been found to be untrue (flip flops) then disregard my post, please.

[KittyMom]

I have a feeling that someone in media will investigate the 911 issue and report on it. Just give it time.

[Cheri_G]

we kept hearing about flip flops in the beginning; maybe they found one or both and the mother was sure they were her's

If this has already been found to be untrue (flip flops) then disregard my post, please.

I only saw the flipflops mentioned in one article and it was not indicated where the reporter got that info. Knowing how often the media gets details wrong, I don't feel this is a confirmed detail.

I have not found anywhere that has mentioned what Kristi was last seen wearing, or if no one saw her leave the house what she was believed to be wearing, or may have been wearing. Not even on the flyer which seems odd since that info is fairly standard on most MP flyers and generally released early to the media along with the victim's physical description.

I don't understand why that was withheld especially in the begining when knowing that info may have been useful in somebody spotting Kristi.

[ginky41]

There was some "talk" that a bluetooth was found at the scene. I never saw that documented anywhere but some posters were saying it as truth. FWIW.

[fins2thright]

There was some "talk" that a bluetooth was found at the scene. I never saw that documented anywhere but some posters were saying it as truth. FWIW.

I think that is pure speculation at this point, since it does not appear in any media coverage, statements by DD or the family, or other LE disclosures. I think it sprung up on this board in the form of a question and then evolved into urban legend. If someone knows better, please correct me as it would be a clarifying point of evidence.

[C.Hound]

Good Morning Cheri and all,

I agree that it would be great for LE to clarify some of the confusion regarding the phone calls.

I'd also like to bring forward Rainy's question posted on yesterday's thread regarding the "evidence of a struggle". Any thoughts? What else could there possible be? A piece of clothing found?

08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,535

Thinking back to signs of a struggle.....what could that be? I know there was a case recently of a lady in a park who was abducted and they knew there were signs of a struggle because her coffee cup was turned over, papers everywhere, etc., but haven't we only heard about a shoe? What other things would indicate there was a struggle? Any ideas?

Maybe a water bottle, iPod, eyeglasses, keys?

[Danette44]

Good Morning Everyone - I have a question about DD's comment on NG the other night......DD made the comment about walking that same path with Kristi the Saturday before......I'm wondering if he meant he was on the phone with her "While", Kristi was walking that same path? Just curious if he actually meant that they did this same path together as they did the night she was grab. I just find it odd that he was right there and didn't meet anyone in the family that day. jmoo

[ginky41]

I think that is pure speculation at this point, since it does not appear in any media coverage, statements by DD or the family, or other LE disclosures. I think it sprung up on this board in the form of a question and then evolved into urban legend. If someone knows better, please correct me as it would be a clarifying point of evidence.


That's what I thought too since I hadn't seen it in print. IIRC I don't even know for sure that Kristi was using a bluetooth -- has that been verified? :confused:

[JanJan]

Go to www.ajc.com today. They have a good article on Kristi and other missing Georgia women.

I think I saw where she had on tan shorts and a white top.

[openminded]

That's what I thought too since I hadn't seen it in print. IIRC I don't even know for sure that Kristi was using a bluetooth -- has that been verified? :confused:

Not by anything I've seen or read in Atlanta and there has been a lot of coverage here of Kristi's abduction.

[momof6]

I would not want law enforcement to let certain information out that may hurt the investigation. As much as I want to now every detail, it ain't gonna happen. We are only going to be able to speculate until things come out that can come out.

As far as the 911 call, I don't see anything wrong with him calling the mom. Where I live, that is what I would have done because our county is not up to date at all with it's 911 system. We are also so huge and do not have enough lawenforcement that it could take a long time for an officer to get here. The closest county away is 90 miles, so no help from law enforcement there. If I were to try to call another county from our county, it would take longer and every minute counts in abductions. Since it was near the mother's house, she could go investigate as she is on the phone. Then there is a chance she has a description or something. Too bad she didn't get there in time.

I wonder how long it was between the time mom was called and someone went to the actual sight. Did anyone get there very fast?

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Bring this post over from the other link.

Do some people here not understand exactly what a direct quote is?

KittyMom
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006
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You should make a habit of checking the links before posting.

http://www.ajc.com/news/faith-helps-...of-123729.html

Quote:
The GBI has ruled out Davis and Cornwell’s ex-husbands as suspects, said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.

I will be glad to explain it to anyone that does not understand that the above IS NOT a direct quote.

The statement above is NO DIFFERENT than all the other ones that make the claim LE said this. GBI has cleared....LE says ex not...

Considering the Richard Jewell controversy arose from this state, I would think they would be extra cautious before labeling anyone a suspect or POI. LE has not named anyone a suspect nor have the cleared anyone.

[Curious]

GBI said they have evidence of a struggle. :shrug:

ETA: Do you mean that's the evidence? Heck, I hope that's not the case. Geeeesh

I know nothing about tasers. Do they make noise when discharged? Does the person who is tased make a sound that is specific to this type of assault? I have heard remnants of wire are left when it is discharged.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I have a feeling that someone in media will investigate the 911 issue and report on it. Just give it time.

Hmm. I am curious. IIRC, you posted something about family members registering for boards. Several hours later, gagirl showed up claiming to be just that. IMO

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I would not want law enforcement to let certain information out that may hurt the investigation. As much as I want to now every detail, it ain't gonna happen. We are only going to be able to speculate until things come out that can come out.

As far as the 911 call, I don't see anything wrong with him calling the mom. Where I live, that is what I would have done because our county is not up to date at all with it's 911 system. We are also so huge and do not have enough lawenforcement that it could take a long time for an officer to get here. The closest county away is 90 miles, so no help from law enforcement there. If I were to try to call another county from our county, it would take longer and every minute counts in abductions. Since it was near the mother's house, she could go investigate as she is on the phone. Then there is a chance she has a description or something. Too bad she didn't get there in time.

I wonder how long it was between the time mom was called and someone went to the actual sight. Did anyone get there very fast?

How or why would he have her mom's home number? She had only been visiting there for a week. They had only been dating a short time. He didn't know the parents. Maybe called 411 and gagirl forgot to tell us that?

[Ms Daisy]

I know nothing about tasers. Do they make noise when discharged? Does the person who is tased make a sound that is specific to this type of assault? I have heard remnants of wire are left when it is discharged.

Yes, the "sound" they make is screaming. Just like DD said he heard while still connected w/Kristi's cell phone.

[Ice Cycle]

Good Morning Everyone - I have a question about DD's comment on NG the other night......DD made the comment about walking that same path with Kristi the Saturday before......I'm wondering if he meant he was on the phone with her "While", Kristi was walking that same path? Just curious if he actually meant that they did this same path together as they did the night she was grab. I just find it odd that he was right there and didn't meet anyone in the family that day. jmoo

This is a good question and something that never occurred to me as now that I think about it seems I heard or read that her Parents had never meet DD so maybe he did mean walk with her by phone. Though IMO I still don't think he is involved but could be wrong.
I wonder if anyone knows anymore about the picture that LE was showing to cars for ID, what that poster (seemsodd) last night was saying.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Good Morning Everyone - I have a question about DD's comment on NG the other night......DD made the comment about walking that same path with Kristi the Saturday before......I'm wondering if he meant he was on the phone with her "While", Kristi was walking that same path? Just curious if he actually meant that they did this same path together as they did the night she was grab. I just find it odd that he was right there and didn't meet anyone in the family that day. jmoo

I would find this a stretch for anyone to believe....except that it came from DD. I bet you are right. That is what DD meant to tell us. ;)

IMO, if this man really passed an LDT, it is a crappy investigative tool. It isn't any wonder they are not allowed in court.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Has Kristi's apartment been searched? I am guessing LE has her computer based on the comment her father made. Such a strange case.

[doctor_J]

Good Morning Cheri and all,

I agree that it would be great for LE to clarify some of the confusion regarding the phone calls.

I'd also like to bring forward Rainy's question posted on yesterday's thread regarding the "evidence of a struggle". Any thoughts? What else could there possible be? A piece of clothing found?

08-26-2009, 07:37 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,535

Thinking back to signs of a struggle.....what could that be? I know there was a case recently of a lady in a park who was abducted and they knew there were signs of a struggle because her coffee cup was turned over, papers everywhere, etc., but haven't we only heard about a shoe? What other things would indicate there was a struggle? Any ideas?

I think a struggle with a kidnapper would be a REAL SERIOUS struggle, not just a scuffle. What woman doesn't know that this is the point to make your last stand. That you never let anyone take you to a "secondary crime scene". Especially since she was ex-LE. So I would expect to find maybe a torn up area in the dirt/grass/ditch, hair clumps (Jennifer Wilbanks cut her hair off and left it), torn off acrylic nails, clothing or parts of clothing like buttons, glasses/contacts, water bottle, and worst of all blood drops.

[Ice Cycle]

I think a struggle with a kidnapper would be a REAL SERIOUS struggle, not just a scuffle. What woman doesn't know that this is the point to make your last stand. That you never let anyone take you to a "secondary crime scene". Especially since she was ex-LE. So I would expect to find maybe a torn up area in the dirt/grass/ditch, hair clumps (Jennifer Wilbanks cut her hair off and left it), torn off acrylic nails, clothing or parts of clothing like buttons, glasses/contacts, water bottle, and worst of all blood drops.

Maybe and maybe LE has already found those things just not reported it, of course if they were threatening with a gun, maybe not or if they tassed (not sure of sp) her.

[Mr FATE]

I think a struggle with a kidnapper would be a REAL SERIOUS struggle, not just a scuffle. What woman doesn't know that this is the point to make your last stand. That you never let anyone take you to a "secondary crime scene". Especially since she was ex-LE. So I would expect to find maybe a torn up area in the dirt/grass/ditch, hair clumps (Jennifer Wilbanks cut her hair off and left it), torn off acrylic nails, clothing or parts of clothing like buttons, glasses/contacts, water bottle, and worst of all blood drops.

I think HEARING that struggle would scar me for life - and yet Mr Davis is cool as a cucumber. No words - like - oooh my god, poor Kristi... - or - I know she was abducted from what I heard... just more baloney about his mountain top visit...how Jesus is GETTING HIM thru...

I'm suspicious of anyone acting as he does in a criminal situation.

He words don't ring true for me... tonight on NG he'll probably cry his eyes out after reading what I just posted.

[Mr FATE]

There is "devoted" and "devoted" - follow me here.

I don't know Mr Davis personally... and to be honest, I don't want to, but IF I did - it would have been a short relationship - very very short.

My Eyes For Lies see right through him... and I see a Jim Baker, a Swaggart - and the likes, that use devotion for the end means.

That's MY opinion.

Now, gagirl85, I know you are reading my words, I know you are here, who was his dinner companion?

clue me and no "Cindy Anthony mis-truths" - male or female?

No reply by the close of this thread and I will assume female.

[momof6]

gagirl85.............Do not give any information out that could hurt this investigation. I believe there are some people on here that are trying to bait you. Don't do it. They are only speculating and have hatred for people that have different values than them. These people don't have the complete picture to make a case so they say things to get people hyped up. Don't fall for it.

I find it interesting how one does not even know a person, but they can cut them down and call them names and have so much hatred for them. I won't tell my kids to "grow up and act like adults", I'd be afraid they'd turn out like many adults I've come across.

Please don't take the bait. I know Lawenforcement has alot more information they are not sharing, and thats all I need to know.

My heart goes out to you, your dad, and Kristi's family.

[Mr FATE]

"They were able to prove my whereabouts by my telephone, they knew where I was the moment this occurred," said Davis. "I volunteered for a polygraph. It took a couple of days, but we cleared that test as well."

http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2009/08/missing-womans-boyfriend-speak.html

[doradoll]

I think a struggle with a kidnapper would be a REAL SERIOUS struggle, not just a scuffle. What woman doesn't know that this is the point to make your last stand. That you never let anyone take you to a "secondary crime scene". Especially since she was ex-LE. So I would expect to find maybe a torn up area in the dirt/grass/ditch, hair clumps (Jennifer Wilbanks cut her hair off and left it), torn off acrylic nails, clothing or parts of clothing like buttons, glasses/contacts, water bottle, and worst of all blood drops.

Perhaps her recent injury decreased her ablilities. I would think that if she taught self defense, she would indeed do better than most of us. I wish someone out there would remember a cousin/neighbor/boyfriend coming home with scratches.

No news is bad news. That area is very heavily wooded. My husband and I rented a cabin up there a few years ago. The locals knew all the nooks and crannys, but we were in awe of the wilderness.

Did we hear if dogs tracked her scent to the road?

[HALE 2d GNAW]

gagirl85.............
Do not give any information out that could hurt this investigation. I believe there are some people on here that are trying to bait you. Don't do it. They are only speculating and have hatred for people that have different values than them. These people don't have the complete picture to make a case so they say things to get people hyped up. Don't fall for it.

I find it interesting how one does not even know a person, but they can cut them down and call them names and have so much hatred for them. I won't tell my kids to "grow up and act like adults", I'd be afraid they'd turn out like many adults I've come across.

Please don't take the bait. I know Lawenforcement has alot more information they are not sharing, and thats all I need to know.

My heart goes out to you, your dad, and Kristi's family.

Well, I believe for gagirl not to say anything now it like shutting the barn door after all the horses got out.

As for what she has told people, how does it "hurt" the investigation? I can certainly see how it might "help" the investigation tho. IMO

Chatting too much doesn't just apply to chat rooms

[HALE 2d GNAW]

http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2009/08/missing-womans-boyfriend-speak.html

DD passing a polygraph? :lol:

[Mr FATE]

Douglas Davis said he heard his girlfriend screaming for help over the telephone. He said he believes Cornwell might have been in the upstate at some point.

http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html

may have been?

He knows about the college registration - but this is a may have been??

at what point?

[doradoll]

gagirl85.............Do not give any information out that could hurt this investigation. I believe there are some people on here that are trying to bait you. Don't do it. They are only speculating and have hatred for people that have different values than them. These people don't have the complete picture to make a case so they say things to get people hyped up. Don't fall for it.

I find it interesting how one does not even know a person, but they can cut them down and call them names and have so much hatred for them. I won't tell my kids to "grow up and act like adults", I'd be afraid they'd turn out like many adults I've come across.

Please don't take the bait. I know Lawenforcement has alot more information they are not sharing, and thats all I need to know.

My heart goes out to you, your dad, and Kristi's family.

I PM'd her a couple of days ago saying much the same.

Respect for Kristi,

Dora

[Mr FATE]

gagirl85.............Do not give any information out that could hurt this investigation. I believe there are some people on here that are trying to bait you. Don't do it. They are only speculating and have hatred for people that have different values than them. These people don't have the complete picture to make a case so they say things to get people hyped up. Don't fall for it.

I find it interesting how one does not even know a person, but they can cut them down and call them names and have so much hatred for them. I won't tell my kids to "grow up and act like adults", I'd be afraid they'd turn out like many adults I've come across.

Please don't take the bait. I know Lawenforcement has alot more information they are not sharing, and thats all I need to know.

My heart goes out to you, your dad, and Kristi's family.

I was debating whether or not to reply to you - but how about we leave our feelings out of this and if anyone deserves our heartfelt feelings - it's KRISTI! I noticed you missed her in your post.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html

may have been?

He knows about the college registration - but this is a may have been??

at what point?

May have been when he went up there for hours or days. Depending which version you mean. I am sure it will mean he took her there is some biblical way that will "make sense" to some.
IMO

eta: Did you see his LDT comment in your link. Still cramming it in that he has some how been cleared. UH HUH

[Mr FATE]

DD passing a polygraph? :lol:

I know - he keeps saying that - yet Misty Cummings took - what - three?

No competent polygraph investigator ever tells someone they passed.

[Curious]

There is "devoted" and "devoted" - follow me here.

I don't know Mr Davis personally... and to be honest, I don't want to, but IF I did - it would have been a short relationship - very very short.

My Eyes For Lies see right through him... and I see a Jim Baker, a Swaggart - and the likes, that use devotion for the end means.

That's MY opinion.

Now, gagirl85, I know you are reading my words, I know you are here, who was his dinner companion?

clue me and no "Cindy Anthony mis-truths" - male or female?

No reply by the close of this thread and I will assume female.

he's NOT impressing me - and I've seen more television statements than most but not all...

I contrast Mr Davis' overall sentiments / words / actions / re-actions with those I am 110% certain are innocent - I'm not getting the same "vibes"...

now it's white knuckle time for Mr. Davis' defenders - namely the woman who claimed to know him best - gagirl85 - it's time for her to come and answer the questions hanging out there.

gagirl85 - you said you would. I intend to hold you to your word. Should you renege - I will assume that you were insincere in all previous statements - and - had an agenda to deflect attention from your father.

I know you said you are afraid of me, and I assure you there is no need to feel that way - just imagine how afraid Kristi was - your fear is no where near that.

I await your reply.

Perhaps you should create a "sworn questionnaire" post for GaGirl, put a little disclaimer at the bottom

"I SWEAR UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE. INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS DOCUMENT IS TRUE AND. CORRECT"

That way she can sneak in after you have gone to bed tonight and answer all your questions :rolleyes:

[Mr FATE]

Perhaps you should create a "sworn questionnaire" post for GaGirl, put a little disclaimer at the bottom

"I SWEAR UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT THE. INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS DOCUMENT IS TRUE AND. CORRECT"

That way she can sneak in after you have gone to bed tonight and answer all your questions :rolleyes:

face to fate is much better - I'm a patient man - I have all nite. But thanks for your concern.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

more tweaks


"It goes everywhere I go," Davis said. "The note said, 'Douglas, I hope this will bless you in your daily walk as it has me. All my love, forever yours. Love, Kristi."

http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html

As he spoke, Davis held tightly to a book of daily devotional prayers by Oswald Chambers. The book was a gift from Cornwell, sent before she disappeared.

“Just a few days ago I went to get my mail after being away through this ordeal, and Kristi sent a gift to me,” Davis explained to Curry. “She said in her note to me, ‘I hope these devotions will be a blessing to you as they have been to me. With all my love, Kristi, forever yours.’ ”

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/324888...-today_people/

[Mr FATE]

more tweaks




http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html



http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/324888...-today_people/

ut oh!!! someone's fibbin'

[n/t]

more tweaks




http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html



http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/324888...-today_people/

Good catch. :unsure:

[Mr FATE]

Good catch. :unsure:

this Mr Davis is either totally innocent or he wants people to examine his statements...he is attracting attention with WHAT he says.

if it's the later - I think we know how the subconscious mind CAN work.

[Cheri_G]

more tweaks




http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html



http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/324888...-today_people/

I think Davis may be the type of person that tends to exaggerate or take liberties with the truth which is why he's facing a credibility issue with many who have seen or read his interviews.

I think there probably is a note. It probably says something along the lines of what he's claiming and he's just "flowering" it up because he thinks it sounds better.

I'm not convinced their relationship was as serious as he's claiming.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

the book and the note

She ordered it before her disappearance.

http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html


In the msnbc interview, it made it sound like Kristi mailed it to him. gagirl said he took a while to for him to get it because it went to his po box after his return from his search and/or mountain.

It all makes sense to me now. S/he ordered it and the note was typed so there was no handwriting or postmark to examine. :laugh: Kristi might have even used a gift card to buy on line. So that would "clear" Douglas from any involvement as it's not on his credit card.

As for the note, he first said he couldn't reveal it or that LE had it, IIRC

Now he says he carries it everywhere yet he can't recite verbatim. It is only a few words but he can recite pages and pages of scripture

[Mr FATE]

http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2009/08/missing-womans-boyfriend-speak.html


bumped and I have never seen anyone EVER say - We passed a polygraph..

wth???

[Curious]

I think Davis may be the type of person that tends to exaggerate or take liberties with the truth which is why he's facing a credibility issue with many who have seen or read his interviews.

I think there probably is a note. It probably says something along the lines of what he's claiming and he's just "flowering" it up because he thinks it sounds better.

I'm not convinced their relationship was as serious as he's claiming.

Neither am I ... as I said before he looking for attention ... Sees all kinds of opportunities in all this exposure. The recent update to his website is proof in my opinion. Talk about flowery speech, his Bio :biggrin:

[HALE 2d GNAW]

this Mr Davis is either totally innocent or he wants people to examine his statements...he is attracting attention with WHAT he says.

if it's the later - I think we know how the subconscious mind CAN work.


I agree that he may just be doing it for some sick need for attention. But either way, he should shut up IMO. But he can't help himself.

[Mr FATE]

the book and the note



http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html


In the msnbc interview, it made it sound like Kristi mailed it to him. gagirl said he took a while to for him to get it because it went to his po box after his return from his search and/or mountain.

It all makes sense to me now. S/he ordered it and the note was typed so there was no handwriting or postmark to examine. :laugh: Kristi might have even used a gift card to buy on line. So that would "clear" Douglas from any involvement as it's not on his credit card.

As for the note, he first said he couldn't reveal it or that LE had it, IIRC

Now he says he carries it everywhere yet he can't recite verbatim. It is only a few words but he can recite pages and pages of scripture

so few defenders here tonight - it must be sinking in

imo

[n/t]

I think Davis may be the type of person that tends to exaggerate or take liberties with the truth which is why he's facing a credibility issue with many who have seen or read his interviews.

I think there probably is a note. It probably says something along the lines of what he's claiming and he's just "flowering" it up because he thinks it sounds better.

I'm not convinced their relationship was as serious as he's claiming.

You may be right that he's "flowering" it but I think using

" hope this will bless you in your daily walk " considering she was abducted on her daily walk is quite disturbing, imo.


Why did he feel the need to change it? Why not just tell the truth? Good lord. If he's a Godly man with his lies, I must be the pope.

Does he realize the seriousness of this case? It sounds like he's playing mind games. He's downright creepy.:scared:

[n/t]

Neither am I ... as I said before he looking for attention ... Sees all kinds of opportunities in all this exposure. The recent update to his website is proof in my opinion. Talk about flowery speech, his Bio :biggrin:

I think that's disgusting considering this isn't about him but about a missing woman who he supposedly loves and wants to marry.

[ttcRider]

more tweaks




http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html



http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/324888...-today_people/

WOW! You're good! :thumbup:

[Mr FATE]

I agree that he may just be doing it for some sick need for attention. But either way, he should shut up IMO. But he can't help himself.

if he wants people focusing on him and not the real abductor (provided he's not involved) he's got some real issues - and he has done Kristi a greater disservice than not immediately calling 911.

[Cheri_G]

You may be right that he's "flowering" it but I think using

" hope this will bless you in your daily walk " considering she was abducted on her daily walk is quite disturbing, imo.


Why did he feel the need to change it? Why not just tell the truth? Good lord. If he's a Godly man with his lies, I must be the pope.

Does he realize the seriousness of this case? It sounds like he's playing mind games. He's downright creepy.:scared:

Bit of an ego-maniac maybe? He thinks he's wonderful, charming, sweet, etc. and assumes everyone else thinks so too....?

I think maybe that rather than playing games, what he's playing to is his own self-image.

[ttcRider]

You may be right that he's "flowering" it but I think using

" hope this will bless you in your daily walk " considering she was abducted on her daily walk is quite disturbing, imo.


Why did he feel the need to change it? Why not just tell the truth? Good lord. If he's a Godly man with his lies, I must be the pope.

Does he realize the seriousness of this case? It sounds like he's playing mind games. He's downright creepy.:scared:

:scared: I think you can get 're-baptized' now a days so its all good!

[Mr FATE]

You may be right that he's "flowering" it but I think using

" hope this will bless you in your daily walk " considering she was abducted on her daily walk is quite disturbing, imo.


Why did he feel the need to change it? Why not just tell the truth? Good lord. If he's a Godly man with his lies, I must be the pope.

Does he realize the seriousness of this case? It sounds like he's playing mind games. He's downright creepy.:scared:

bold by me...

It's about time someone said it - I salute you for your honesty.

[fins2thright]

I think Davis may be the type of person that tends to exaggerate or take liberties with the truth which is why he's facing a credibility issue with many who have seen or read his interviews.

I think there probably is a note. It probably says something along the lines of what he's claiming and he's just "flowering" it up because he thinks it sounds better.

I'm not convinced their relationship was as serious as he's claiming.

Ditto. And I think that DD is suffering from "Acquired Situational Narcissism". It's a common malady of people with already inflated self image who are thrust into the limelight.

[n/t]

Bit of an ego-maniac maybe? He thinks he's wonderful, charming, sweet, etc. and assumes everyone else thinks so too....?

I think maybe that rather than playing games, what he's playing to is his own self-image.

Like Scott and Drew Peterson? :huh:

Blech...I see alot of the same qualities. Narcissists. I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt but that phrase really got to me.

This is no longer about Kristi for him, imo. How sad.

[Ice Cycle]

so few defenders here tonight - it must be sinking in

imo

I am not necessarily a defender but also don't beat a dead horse and I was one who thought David E was guilty with Robert Manwell from day one. Their is not only not one shred of evidence against DD and in fact LE has said he has a alibi and cleared, which might not be 100% but pretty close to it. The problem is people haven't gotten so use to these cases being of domestic issues that some want to jump to that conclusion, and it's just not always the case. Regardless I see no sense in crucifying anyone until at least LE considers them a suspect or person of interest. BTW- I trust my neighbors to make smart judgments and appears the baiting comment might be true and I don't even like fish baiting.

[Mr FATE]

Bit of an ego-maniac maybe? He thinks he's wonderful, charming, sweet, etc. and assumes everyone else thinks so too....?

I think maybe that rather than playing games, what he's playing to is his own self-image.

Precisely my reason for wanting to know the gender of the dinner companion.

[n/t]

:scared: I think you can get 're-baptized' now a days so its all good!

No kidding. Whoa!:scared:

[momof6]

How did he get her mothers phone number? she probably gave it to him.

Why did she give it to him? So he could call her when she is at her mother's house.

No big deal.


I'm sure lawenforcement has looked at her emails and his. They probably know how much they loved each other. Yes I believe you can fall in love fast. I did and we have been married for 25 wonderful years.

I wonder if Kristi would be happy with the way the guy she loved is being treated?

Why would DD have Kristi abducted? I think someone on here has a personal vindetta against DD. Just like some think gagirl is not who she says she is....I think a couple people on here are pretending to care about Kristi as a way to get back at an enemy.

[doctor_J]

gagirl85.............Do not give any information out that could hurt this investigation. I believe there are some people on here that are trying to bait you. Don't do it. They are only speculating and have hatred for people that have different values than them. These people don't have the complete picture to make a case so they say things to get people hyped up. Don't fall for it.

I find it interesting how one does not even know a person, but they can cut them down and call them names and have so much hatred for them. I won't tell my kids to "grow up and act like adults", I'd be afraid they'd turn out like many adults I've come across.

Please don't take the bait. I know Lawenforcement has alot more information they are not sharing, and thats all I need to know.

My heart goes out to you, your dad, and Kristi's family.

I hope you take this good advice, gagirl. I would pm you but I know when I was new I didn't know to check pm's and I didn't know about vicious, mean-spirited people in MB's.

I want to personally apologize. I do not have the authority to apologize for the forum but I will publicly apologize for even being on the same thread at the same time as these disturbed individuals. I also apologize for saying that anyone on this forum was harmless.Obviously, they are capable of great harm. I'm pretty new too but I'm learning.

It's really a shame that when we get someone close to a case to post and have such a valuable source of info, they are not treated with the respect and dignity everyone deserves. It doesn't mean you have to agree or even believe, just conduct a civil conversation. It's not possible here, that's for sure.

[Mr FATE]

I am not necessarily a defender but also don't beat a dead horse and I was one who thought David E was guilty with Robert Manwell from day one. Their is not only not one shred of evidence against DD and in fact LE has said he has a alibi and cleared, which might not be 100% but pretty close to it. The problem is people haven't gotten so use to these cases being of domestic issues that some want to jump to that conclusion, and it's just not always the case. Regardless I see no sense in crucifying anyone until at least LE considers them a suspect or person of interest. BTW- I trust my neighbors to make smart judgments and appears the baiting comment might be true and I don't even like fish baiting.

Last night I saw some of the most foolish posts I have seen in quite some time. Continuing to defend NOT calling 911 and others who send mom and pop to an (violent) abduction scene because it's easier than calling 911. I also saw reasons for calling neighbors to a home break-in. We have some people here that need an eduction in crime or common sense. Thank goodness they are not calling me to investigate their home break-ins - cause I would tell them to CALL the police or 911.

As for "not one shred" - should I stop looking? Grande blew Robert Arnette's doors off and the police even stopped looking.

I'm sure that you have considered that the police often don't consider someone a POI or SUSPECT until the public - i.e. us and others - make that connection.

perhaps if you do not like my style - nor the tools I use - ignore me.

[n/t]

How did he get her mothers phone number? she probably gave it to him.

Why did she give it to him? So he could call her when she is at her mother's house.

No big deal.


I'm sure lawenforcement has looked at her emails and his. They probably know how much they loved each other. Yes I believe you can fall in love fast. I did and we have been married for 25 wonderful years.

I wonder if Kristi would be happy with the way the guy she loved is being treated?

Why would DD have Kristi abducted? I think someone on here has a personal vindetta against DD. Just like some think gagirl is not who she says she is....I think a couple people on here are pretending to care about Kristi as a way to get back at an enemy.

Sadly, Kristi is not here to tell us how much she loved him. Everything we know is coming from him.

Her family won't even acknowledge him as a fiance. As far as I know, they haven't even met until this tragedy.

Who's the enemy? Do you think some of us have a personal vendetta against Mr. Davis? I'm basing my opinions on what's being said out there and like I said in my earlier post, I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt but that line of wording he used is quite disturbing to me.

I don't care for him. All I want to know are the facts and the truth. No need to embellish this sad case. It's already complicated and confusing as it is and not getting anywhere. How is he helping find Kristi with his lies?

I call them lies....I don't believe in half truths.

[Pomme]

Personal vendetta against DD? Not quite. More like incredulity at his continuing odd statements and strange reactions.

I just don't trust him. If he doesn't have anything to do with her disappearance, then he's just a very weird, extremely inappropriate guy.

[C.Hound]

How did he get her mothers phone number? she probably gave it to him.

Why did she give it to him? So he could call her when she is at her mother's house.

No big deal.


I'm sure lawenforcement has looked at her emails and his. They probably know how much they loved each other. Yes I believe you can fall in love fast. I did and we have been married for 25 wonderful years.

I wonder if Kristi would be happy with the way the guy she loved is being treated?

Why would DD have Kristi abducted? I think someone on here has a personal vindetta against DD. Just like some think gagirl is not who she says she is....I think a couple people on here are pretending to care about Kristi as a way to get back at an enemy.

I somehow doubt Kristi would like to be talked about in the past tense by the guy she "loves" (in quotations since she's unable to speak for herself about the relationship) or to have every single D. Davis interview steer off the subject of finding her and be redirected to his narcissistic needs.

[seemsodd]

I don't know Mr. Davis but it is my understanding listening to local talk (maybe I should say local gossip) the family didn't know him until this situation began they aren't happy with all his interviews. Which brings to question, if the family truly didn't know Mr. Davis how did he walk the route with Kristi the week before all this happened, also why if Kristi gave him her parents phone number would she need to go for a walk to talk to him on her cell phone. She was walking when she called him to get service, but he finished dinner before calling her back? What did she do that 15 or 20 minutes while she was walking (to have cell service) while Mr. Davis finished his meal that doesn't make sense to me.

I went on map quest put in Kristi's parents address then I put in the address of the gentleman where the phone was found ... 2.57 miles total time to drive distance according to map quest 3 minutes.

[Curious]

I am not necessarily a defender but also don't beat a dead horse and I was one who thought David E was guilty with Robert Manwell from day one. Their is not only not one shred of evidence against DD and in fact LE has said he has a alibi and cleared, which might not be 100% but pretty close to it. The problem is people haven't gotten so use to these cases being of domestic issues that some want to jump to that conclusion, and it's just not always the case. Regardless I see no sense in crucifying anyone until at least LE considers them a suspect or person of interest. BTW- I trust my neighbors to make smart judgments and appears the baiting comment might be true and I don't even like fish baiting.

I don't think DD is involved in Kristi's abduction ... My problem is with his self-promotion, I honestly think he feels someone will see him speaking on TV and he will benefit from that. Maybe he has aspirations to be the next Billy Graham. DD repels me and I felt that way the first time I saw him speak on TV. Snakeoil ...

[n/t]

Doctor J.....I won't even quote your post because I think you're way out of line with your insults.

I have no idea who you're addressing but considering you mentioned this thread, I'm assuming you're including me with your uncalled for name calling.

Just because we have differing opinions on the case does not make one better than the other and you of all people should know better.

[doradoll]

I don't know Mr. Davis but it is my understanding listening to local talk (maybe I should say local gossip) the family didn't know him until this situation began they aren't happy with all his interviews. Which brings to question, if the family truly didn't know Mr. Davis how did he walk the route with Kristi the week before all this happened, also why if Kristi gave him her parents phone number would she need to go for a walk to talk to him on her cell phone. She was walking when she called him to get service, but he finished dinner before calling her back? What did she do that 15 or 20 minutes while she was walking (to have cell service) while Mr. Davis finished his meal that doesn't make sense to me.

I went on map quest put in Kristi's parents address then I put in the address of the gentleman where the phone was found ... 2.57 miles total time to drive distance according to map quest 3 minutes.

interesting

perhaps she thought that they would not be happy that she was not yet divorced again and starting a new relationship

seemsodd, do you know if they had dogs track her scent?

[mitzi]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

When DD was telling NG about the book, I thought he said the book was Kristi's. Am I just misunderstanding what he said? (and I probably am....)

from the transcript:

DAVIS: Well, it`s a daily prayer devotional. "My Utmost for His Highest" by Oswald Chambers. I got back in town early part of the week and went to get my mail after being gone for several days. I remember driving to the post office thinking, you know, there just might be something and then of course I shut that down saying, I don`t want to be disappointed.

And sure enough, though, when I opened up the box there it this gift was. I had not expected it. But, you know, it`s like Kristi is reaching out to me even now. She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and I`ve been reading it every day. "

[Cheri_G]

Like Scott and Drew Peterson? :huh:

Blech...I see alot of the same qualities. Narcissists. I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt but that phrase really got to me.

This is no longer about Kristi for him, imo. How sad.

Yeah, kinda like them. The problem with narcissists is that they always make everything about them and in cases like this the resulting behaviour may make them look guilty even if they aren't.

[n/t]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

When DD was telling NG about the book, I thought he said the book was Kristi's. Am I just misunderstanding what he said? (and I probably am....)

from the transcript:

DAVIS: Well, it`s a daily prayer devotional. "My Utmost for His Highest" by Oswald Chambers. I got back in town early part of the week and went to get my mail after being gone for several days. I remember driving to the post office thinking, you know, there just might be something and then of course I shut that down saying, I don`t want to be disappointed.

And sure enough, though, when I opened up the box there it this gift was. I had not expected it. But, you know, it`s like Kristi is reaching out to me even now. She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and I`ve been reading it every day. "

That's the way I understood it too. Why do you ask?

[seemsodd]

interesting

perhaps she thought that they would not be happy that she was not yet divorced again and starting a new relationship

seemsodd, do you know if they had dogs track her scent?


I posted the link for our local paper on the August 19, edition you will see in the left hand top a list of days we were updated you can click on each one and read what we was told about the case not much info there that's what's so strange about this case.

[doradoll]

I hope you take this good advice, gagirl. I would pm you but I know when I was new I didn't know to check pm's and I didn't know about vicious, mean-spirited people in MB's.

I want to personally apologize. I do not have the authority to apologize for the forum but I will publicly apologize for even being on the same thread at the same time as these disturbed individuals. I also apologize for saying that anyone on this forum was harmless.Obviously, they are capable of great harm. I'm pretty new too but I'm learning.

It's really a shame that when we get someone close to a case to post and have such a valuable source of info, they are not treated with the respect and dignity everyone deserves. It doesn't mean you have to agree or even believe, just conduct a civil conversation. It's not possible here, that's for sure.

doctor j,
I PM'd her after it starting getting bad a couple of days ago. I think she will follow our advice. She said, basically, that she found it hard to hear bad stuff about her dad and not respond. I encouraged her to not even look.

I think so much time has passed that we may never know the answers. I don't know the statistics, but that is rural and rugged country, bordered by 2 other states with similar heavily wooded land.

[mitzi]

That's the way I understood it too. Why do you ask?

Upthread a little is a link to an article where DD says she ordered it before her dissappearance.

[Cheri_G]

Precisely my reason for wanting to know the gender of the dinner companion.

I'm not sure that knowing the gender of the dinner companion is going to tell us much without knowing what the relationship is. At this time it seems rather irrelevent since the claim that there was a dinner companion has not been confirmed as far as I know.

[doradoll]

I posted the link for our local paper on the August 19, edition you will see in the left hand top a list of days we were updated you can click on each one and read what we was told about the case not much info there that's what's so strange about this case.

yes, I agree about the lack of info

I read one of the comments below the article that was from someone that said they had worked with her and she was such a nice sweet person who just wanted someone to love, and she just kept choosing the wrong guy.

[n/t]

Yeah, kinda like them. The problem with narcissists is that they always make everything about them and in cases like this the resulting behaviour may make them look guilty even if they aren't.

Well...I hope law enforcement has alot more than they're saying to clear this guy because to me, it's no longer "flowering", it's lying and I see no reason why he should be doing that when this is about Kristi and finding her.

[n/t]

Upthread a little is a link to an article where DD says she ordered it before her dissappearance.

Right and she mailed it to him but he only got around to going to get his mail at his PO Box days after she went missing and that's when he discovered the book with the note.

[Mr FATE]

I don't want anyone to apologize for me... I have said nothing inappropriate.

If you wanna apologize - do it for yourself.

and martyrs are best left off a forum. Thanks.

[fins2thright]

WOW! You're good! :thumbup:

What does this mean?

"Douglas Davis said he heard his girlfriend screaming for help over the telephone. He said he believes Cornwell might have been in the upstate at some point."

What does he mean he believes she might have been in the upstate at some point? Does he mean after she was abducted? How would he know that? I am confused. Someone help me out.

[mitzi]

Right and she mailed it to him but he only got around to going to get his mail at his PO Box days after she went missing and that's when he discovered the book with the note.

I was just confused when I read that she ordered it. I was thinking this was her book that had for a few years, and wanted him to have her book. But I guess she just ordered the same book.

Sorry. It's been a long day.....:confused:

[Mr FATE]

What does this mean?

"Douglas Davis said he heard his girlfriend screaming for help over the telephone. He said he believes Cornwell might have been in the upstate at some point."

What does he mean he believes she might have been in the upstate at some point? Does he mean after she was abducted? How would he know that? I am confused. Someone help me out.

Mr Davis needs to clarify that and I suspect he needs re-interviewed.

++++

BTW - still waiting gagirl85 - silence is golden, but not when you are concerned about Kristi. As you repeatedly stated.

[n/t]

I was just confused when I read that she ordered it. I was thinking this was her book that had for a few years, and wanted him to have her book. But I guess she just ordered the same book.

Sorry. It's been a long day.....:confused:

Ahhh ok. I understand what you mean now. hmmmm good point but who the heck knows what the truth is at this point.

He makes it up as he goes along......I'm afraid of what he'll come up with next.

[doctor_J]

Doctor J.....I won't even quote your post because I think you're way out of line with your insults.

I have no idea who you're addressing but considering you mentioned this thread, I'm assuming you're including me with your uncalled for name calling.

Just because we have differing opinions on the case does not make one better than the other and you of all people should know better.

I thought I made it obvious that I was referring to posters who repeatedly address and insult gagirl BY NAME, which is not only distasteful and obnoxious but against tos, as they know, which is why they are new sign-ups.

[openminded]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

When DD was telling NG about the book, I thought he said the book was Kristi's. Am I just misunderstanding what he said? (and I probably am....)

from the transcript:

DAVIS: Well, it`s a daily prayer devotional. "My Utmost for His Highest" by Oswald Chambers. I got back in town early part of the week and went to get my mail after being gone for several days. I remember driving to the post office thinking, you know, there just might be something and then of course I shut that down saying, I don`t want to be disappointed.

And sure enough, though, when I opened up the box there it this gift was. I had not expected it. But, you know, it`s like Kristi is reaching out to me even now. She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and I`ve been reading it every day. "

I'm guessing, of course, but perhaps it meant she had one of her own and ordered one for him?

[doradoll]

I'm guessing, of course, but perhaps it meant she had one of her own and ordered one for him?


when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

[Cheri_G]

I was just confused when I read that she ordered it. I was thinking this was her book that had for a few years, and wanted him to have her book. But I guess she just ordered the same book.

Sorry. It's been a long day.....:confused:

I think the confusion comes in the wording. In the WYFF article he's quoted as saying she ordered it and in the NG transcripts he says she'd used the devotional for years and wanted him to have it.

Using just the word "it" instead of "a copy of it" or "my own copy" makes it sound like she sent him her personal copy. Its another one of those things that will hopefully be clarified at some point.

She ordered it before her disappearance
http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html

She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and I`ve been reading it every day. "
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

[n/t]

I thought I made it obvious that I was referring to posters who repeatedly address and insult gagirl BY NAME, which is not only distasteful and obnoxious but against tos, as they know, which is why they are new sign-ups.

I think many here have given her advice. I just went back and she's been told many times. You, yourself posted to her yesterday.

It's her choice to be here. If she thinks posters are harrassing her or name calling, she should report to the moderator. There's that little red triangle that reports the posts/poster to the moderator. CW will decide whether it is against TOS and will take appropriate action.

Discussing what's being said in the media and what her dad says in his own statements would not be considered harrassment, imo. That's what these boards are about and you've seen it on many other forums as well.

Just because one has a differing opinions of the case doesn't make it wrong or right. It's a discussion board.

[Mr FATE]

when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

bold by me

interesting and some of us are called the insulters...

[Mr FATE]

when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

bold by me - that's speculation and you have no proof

[Mr FATE]

when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

bold by me - that's speculation and you have no proof - so much for critical thinking.

[doradoll]

I think many here have given her advice. I just went back and she's been told many times. You, yourself posted to her yesterday.

It's her choice to be here. If she thinks posters are harrassing her or name calling, she should report to the moderator. There's that little red triangle that reports the posts/poster to the moderator. CW will decide whether it is against TOS and will take appropriate action.

Discussing what's being said in the media and what her dad says in his own statements would not be considered harrassment, imo. That's what these boards are about and you've seen it on many other forums as well.

Just because one has a differing opinions of the case doesn't make it wrong or right. It's a discussion board.

n/t,
This is one of the original posts this evening.
Do you think this is ok to post?
If it is your opinion that it is ok to post this kind of message, then I will respectfully agree to disagree.

copied from earlier this evening:

Originally Posted by Mr FATE
There is "devoted" and "devoted" - follow me here.

I don't know Mr Davis personally... and to be honest, I don't want to, but IF I did - it would have been a short relationship - very very short.

My Eyes For Lies see right through him... and I see a Jim Baker, a Swaggart - and the likes, that use devotion for the end means.

That's MY opinion.

Now, gagirl85, I know you are reading my words, I know you are here, who was his dinner companion?

clue me and no "Cindy Anthony mis-truths" - male or female?

No reply by the close of this thread and I will assume female.

he's NOT impressing me - and I've seen more television statements than most but not all...

I contrast Mr Davis' overall sentiments / words / actions / re-actions with those I am 110% certain are innocent - I'm not getting the same "vibes"...

now it's white knuckle time for Mr. Davis' defenders - namely the woman who claimed to know him best - gagirl85 - it's time for her to come and answer the questions hanging out there.

gagirl85 - you said you would. I intend to hold you to your word. Should you renege - I will assume that you were insincere in all previous statements - and - had an agenda to deflect attention from your father.

I know you said you are afraid of me, and I assure you there is no need to feel that way - just imagine how afraid Kristi was - your fear is no where near that.

I await your reply.

[Mr FATE]

when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

bold by me - try third time - I hope that's a typo on your part.

[doctor_J]

I think many here have given her advice. I just went back and she's been told many times. You, yourself posted to her yesterday.

It's her choice to be here. If she thinks posters are harrassing her or name calling, she should report to the moderator. There's that little red triangle that reports the posts/poster to the moderator. CW will decide whether it is against TOS and will take appropriate action.

Discussing what's being said in the media and what her dad says in his own statements would not be considered harrassment, imo. That's what these boards are about and you've seen it on many other forums as well.

Just because one has a differing opinions of the case doesn't make it wrong or right. It's a discussion board.

I made of point of saying that there is no problem with differing opinion. Read back. There are terrible posts not just addressing gagirl but repeatedly INSULTING her, which is exactly what I said. I've never seen a member treated so badly. It's so shameful that we have a source of info and they are treated in this manner. Whether anyone chooses to believe her doesn't matter, it's still more info than we could get thru the media. Now she'd be out of her mind to return.

[Mr FATE]

I think the confusion comes in the wording. In the WYFF article he's quoted as saying she ordered it and in the NG transcripts he says she'd used the devotional for years and wanted him to have it.

Using just the word "it" instead of "a copy of it" or "my own copy" makes it sound like she sent him her personal copy. Its another one of those things that will hopefully be clarified at some point.


http://www.wyff4.com/news/20544813/detail.html


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

nice Cheri G :scared:

order it vs had it for years? wth????

[fins2thright]

I found this in another DD interview. Probably everyone knows this, but I hope this will quiet permanently the folks who can't get past the fact that DD called Kristi's parents:

"I had to hear her be abducted," Davis said. "It was the most horrific, helpless feeling I have ever had in my entire life."

Davis says he called 911, but because he was 2 1/2 away, his call never got to the right place.

So he called Cornwell's mother and she called 911.



So there it is. DD called 911 first, just like he should have. And 911 failed him, just like we theorized. So he called the mom and she called 911 locally. Hopefully, that puts that issue to rest.

[Leanne Weich]

I don't know Mr. Davis but it is my understanding listening to local talk (maybe I should say local gossip) the family didn't know him until this situation began they aren't happy with all his interviews. Which brings to question, if the family truly didn't know Mr. Davis how did he walk the route with Kristi the week before all this happened, also why if Kristi gave him her parents phone number would she need to go for a walk to talk to him on her cell phone. She was walking when she called him to get service, but he finished dinner before calling her back? What did she do that 15 or 20 minutes while she was walking (to have cell service) while Mr. Davis finished his meal that doesn't make sense to me.

I went on map quest put in Kristi's parents address then I put in the address of the gentleman where the phone was found ... 2.57 miles total time to drive distance according to map quest 3 minutes.


In the throes of a new relationship and I'm sure we can all remember how one feels then, I find it hard to believe he'd tell her he'd phone her back when he'd finished eating, knowing she was out walking in the dark on her own. I'm sure most of us would have happily foregone our meal to talk to the latest love of our life.

I'm not sure I think he had anything to do with Kristi's disappearance but, to be honest, I'm not liking this man at all. Maybe (hopefully but unlikely imo) Kristi picked up on this man's total self centeredness and narcissism and has run for the hills. I can wish can't I?

[Mr FATE]

I made of point of saying that there is no problem with differing opinion. Read back. There are terrible posts not just addressing gagirl but repeatedly INSULTING her, which is exactly what I said. I've never seen a member treated so badly. It's so shameful that we have a source of info and they are treated in this manner. Whether anyone chooses to believe her doesn't matter, it's still more info than we could get thru the media. Now she'd be out of her mind to return.

Where did I insult her?

She placed herself here and answered the questions she cherry picked.

I asked her to answer the rest and NOT cherry pick - I'm sorry if that's good enough for you or others, it's not for me. She (gagirl85) opened that can not me - I never saw here before she came here. We are talking about a missing person and someone that placed herself on a board and defended the last person to speak with the missing person.

Now show me where I disrespected her?

sorry she doesn't have the gumption to re-appear - that's not my fault. I asked her to answer questions - which she apparently decided was not in her interest. She appears to have accomplished her agenda and has moved on.

It's easy to answer the questions the first time around and get your mantra on the board and run when the tuff questions appear.

In my opinion, she stated her goal - to defend her daddy. Nothing more nothing less - Kristi be dammed I guess. So much for wanting to find Kristi and her feeling that she cared for her. I've seen this many times before.

Kristi is the victim. Not Mr Davis.

[Ice Cycle]

Last night I saw some of the most foolish posts I have seen in quite some time. Continuing to defend NOT calling 911 and others who send mom and pop to an (violent) abduction scene because it's easier than calling 911. I also saw reasons for calling neighbors to a home break-in. We have some people here that need an eduction in crime or common sense. Thank goodness they are not calling me to investigate their home break-ins - cause I would tell them to CALL the police or 911.

As for "not one shred" - should I stop looking? Grande blew Robert Arnette's doors off and the police even stopped looking.

I'm sure that you have considered that the police often don't consider someone a POI or SUSPECT until the public - i.e. us and others - make that connection.

perhaps if you do not like my style - nor the tools I use - ignore me.

Faster does not mean easier
Break in's are not someone hurt
Ignore me- Have been most of the day and your wish is my command which was the plan anyway.

[doradoll]

Oh for cripes sake!

If Coldwater is not around to put an end to this, then I am just going to end my own misery and sign off! :bored:

good night to all reasonable and polite sleuthers here

gonna go snuggle with my hubby :biggrin:

[Mr FATE]

I made of point of saying that there is no problem with differing opinion. Read back. There are terrible posts not just addressing gagirl but repeatedly INSULTING her, which is exactly what I said. I've never seen a member treated so badly. It's so shameful that we have a source of info and they are treated in this manner. Whether anyone chooses to believe her doesn't matter, it's still more info than we could get thru the media. Now she'd be out of her mind to return.

by the way - she IS not a source - she is the daughter of the last person to speak with the missing person - not a source.

How the daughter of a person who last saw or spoke to a missing person is a "source" escapes me.

As for her being a member - she came her to DEFEND - not discuss - big difference in my opinion and gagirl85 stated that. Sorry you don't understand some of the linear points here.

Try reading what I actually wrote and not implying more into my words.

[fins2thright]

I hope I'm not overly annoying anyone tonight. I'm sifting back through articles and interviews and posting interesting things as I find them. We might have seen them before, but sometimes looking at things again is the best way to find a new clue.

So I found this tonight and it surprised me a little:

Cornwell’s boyfriend, Douglas Davis of Carrollton, told authorities he was talking with her by cellphone as she walked down the isolated road at night when she reported that a car was following her and that she became nervous when it stopped. Investigators said Davis told them that he heard a scuffle and Cornwell shout, “Don’t take me.”


I had been under the impression that Kristi merely saw a car coming up the road and told DD that she was going to get off the road so it could pass. But this seems to indicate that the car was "following" her, which is much more menacing than just someone passing by. So if I read this correctly, a car was behind her for at least a small amount of time, possibly slowing down and following her, and then it stopped beside her or in front of her. Then I would presume someone got out, approached her, and a struggle ensued, after which she was put into the car.

[ttcRider]

I really cant see what the problem here is.. maybe Im just an idiot. :confused:

[Cheri_G]

I found this in another DD interview. Probably everyone knows this, but I hope this will quiet permanently the folks who can't get past the fact that DD called Kristi's parents:

"I had to hear her be abducted," Davis said. "It was the most horrific, helpless feeling I have ever had in my entire life."

Davis says he called 911, but because he was 2 1/2 away, his call never got to the right place.

So he called Cornwell's mother and she called 911.



So there it is. DD called 911 first, just like he should have. And 911 failed him, just like we theorized. So he called the mom and she called 911 locally. Hopefully, that puts that issue to rest.

I think what this comes down to is whether or not a person finds Davis credible.

If they do find him credible, then they take him at his word. If they don't find him credible they won't believe it until LE or some other source they consider reliable confirms it.

[Ice Cycle]

I made of point of saying that there is no problem with differing opinion. Read back. There are terrible posts not just addressing gagirl but repeatedly INSULTING her, which is exactly what I said. I've never seen a member treated so badly. It's so shameful that we have a source of info and they are treated in this manner. Whether anyone chooses to believe her doesn't matter, it's still more info than we could get thru the media. Now she'd be out of her mind to return.

Well I think we most all agree that everyone is entitled and sometimes it is good to here different sides but do agree their are some ( not n/t) that go over board with the bashing and rudeness.

[openminded]

when I saw the screen name "Openminded", I thought it was safe to come back in....LOL

but really, I wish we all would use some critical thinking skills instead of creep-factor intuition.....real things, like motive and opportunity

someone stated that they think she was walking from the house in order to get cell phone connection, which would mean she didn't want to use her parents phone for some reason.....I wonder if she was using her evening walk as "phone time"

if I was about to get divorced for the 4th time and my last one was one year ago and not final yet, my Mom is that last person I would tell that I was crazy about a new guy!

I wonder what happened with the last marriage to end in only one year? He was probably the first one interviewed, I suspect.

IIRC, I believe there was a friend who was interviewed early on who indicated Kristi either didn't trust her judgment (no indication of why she would say that) or made some bad judgments in the past regarding men. I thought perhaps she was referring to this last, very short, marrriage.

[Mr FATE]

Samantha and gagirl85 have moved the propaganda to a new scene - laffable..

Nice move girls. :thumbup:

[ttcRider]

Well I think we most all agree that everyone is entitled and sometimes it is good to here different sides but do agree their are some ( not n/t) that go over board with the bashing and rudeness.

Posters have been referred to as witch hunters, lynch mobs, nitwits, crazies... I probably forgot a few, those just came to mind. I will painstakenly go back now and find a list of names that posters called gagirl, I dont recall any off the top of my head. :glare:

[openminded]

I hope I'm not overly annoying anyone tonight. I'm sifting back through articles and interviews and posting interesting things as I find them. We might have seen them before, but sometimes looking at things again is the best way to find a new clue.

So I found this tonight and it surprised me a little:

Cornwell’s boyfriend, Douglas Davis of Carrollton, told authorities he was talking with her by cellphone as she walked down the isolated road at night when she reported that a car was following her and that she became nervous when it stopped. Investigators said Davis told them that he heard a scuffle and Cornwell shout, “Don’t take me.”


I had been under the impression that Kristi merely saw a car coming up the road and told DD that she was going to get off the road so it could pass. But this seems to indicate that the car was "following" her, which is much more menacing than just someone passing by. So if I read this correctly, a car was behind her for at least a small amount of time, possibly slowing down and following her, and then it stopped beside her or in front of her. Then I would presume someone got out, approached her, and a struggle ensued, after which she was put into the car.

Yes, that's another of those confusing things we've heard.

[Cheri_G]

I hope I'm not overly annoying anyone tonight. I'm sifting back through articles and interviews and posting interesting things as I find them. We might have seen them before, but sometimes looking at things again is the best way to find a new clue.

So I found this tonight and it surprised me a little:

Cornwell’s boyfriend, Douglas Davis of Carrollton, told authorities he was talking with her by cellphone as she walked down the isolated road at night when she reported that a car was following her and that she became nervous when it stopped. Investigators said Davis told them that he heard a scuffle and Cornwell shout, “Don’t take me.”


I had been under the impression that Kristi merely saw a car coming up the road and told DD that she was going to get off the road so it could pass. But this seems to indicate that the car was "following" her, which is much more menacing than just someone passing by. So if I read this correctly, a car was behind her for at least a small amount of time, possibly slowing down and following her, and then it stopped beside her or in front of her. Then I would presume someone got out, approached her, and a struggle ensued, after which she was put into the car.

I've read that....

Kristi told Davis a car was approaching and she had to step off the road.

Kristi told Davis a car was following her.

and I think there may have been one report that said Kristi told Davis a car was stopping.

[Ice Cycle]

I think what this comes down to is whether or not a person finds Davis credible.

If they do find him credible, then they take him at his word. If they don't find him credible they won't believe it until LE or some other source they consider reliable confirms it.

Well I don't know if I find him credible on everything, as not certain his reason for all the interview, could be attention or could just be the preacher in him, most like to talk. IF LE has verified his alibi (which is what I read) then I think he is not involved, anything beyond is just too far fetched for me. I am just surprised their has not been more LE press conferences on this case.

[fins2thright]

I'm going to sign off. Hopefully tomorrow folks will be more interested in talking about the case and less interested in petty bickering. As Rodney King said, "Why can't we all just get along?" :rolleyes:

[Cheri_G]

Well I don't know if I find him credible on everything, as not certain his reason for all the interview, could be attention or could just be the preacher in him, most like to talk. IF LE has verified his alibi (which is what I read) then I think he is not involved, anything beyond is just too far fetched for me. I am just surprised their has not been more LE press conferences on this case.

I've read that LE says they are keeping things "close to the vest". I'm starting to wonder lately if they are keeping them too close. It seems like they could clear a few things up without hurting their case. On the other hand we know they have info we don't have and probably later it will become clear why they withheld certain things and chose not to clarify others.

[ttcRider]

I've read that LE says they are keeping things "close to the vest". I'm starting to wonder lately if they are keeping them too close. It seems like they could clear a few things up without hurting their case. On the other hand we know they have info we don't have and probably later it will become clear why they withheld certain things and chose not to clarify others.

I sure hope so. :sad: I can't believe its been this long since any breaking news.

[Mr FATE]

I've read that LE says they are keeping things "close to the vest". I'm starting to wonder lately if they are keeping them too close. It seems like they could clear a few things up without hurting their case. On the other hand we know they have info we don't have and probably later it will become clear why they withheld certain things and chose not to clarify others.

Cheri G - if I might

Why would they keep things close to the vest?

in no particular order.

1. Kristi has run away and they want to spare her the anxiety and pain when she re-emerges. A family matter. I have seen this before. Things go quite.

2. A serial killer is in the area and the LE doesn't want to freak everyone out. I could kinda understand that.

3. The are closing in on a suspect. This has happened many times.

4. They want to keep someone talking and have stated (only told him / her) they have been cleared and that person begins to repeats it and the LE sees where that goes and where the suspect(s) go in an attempt to find the body.

5. "close to the vest" = they have no idea what happened and say that to cover their hind-ends.

6. They have tips that they are matching in other areas that seem remote and could be connected.

feel free to add.

Close to the vest could mean many things - but it never means someone is cleared.

[Ice Cycle]

I've read that LE says they are keeping things "close to the vest". I'm starting to wonder lately if they are keeping them too close. It seems like they could clear a few things up without hurting their case. On the other hand we know they have info we don't have and probably later it will become clear why they withheld certain things and chose not to clarify others.

Right and I am sure if they do think she met someone else from the internet, that can take time to track. I just wonder where they came up with that picture that seemsodd said that LE was stopping cars asking about.

[Cheri_G]

Cheri G - if I might

Why would they keep things close to the vest?

in no particular order.

1. Kristi has run away and they want to spare her the anxiety and pain when she re-emerges. A family matter. I have seen this before. Things go quite.

2. A serial killer is in the area and the LE doesn't want to freak everyone out. I could kinda understand that.

3. The are closing in on a suspect. This has happened many times.

4. They want to keep someone talking and have stated (only told him / her) they have been cleared and that person begins to repeats it and the LE sees where that goes and where the suspect(s) go in an attempt to find the body.

5. "close to the vest" = they have no idea what happened and say that to cover their hind-ends.

6. They have tips that they are matching in other areas that seem remote and could be connected.

feel free to add.

Close to the vest could mean many things - but it never means someone is cleared.

I realize there are a number of reasons why LE would keep things close. Personally, I'd knock #1 and #5 off your list as being unlikely. I'm leaning away from #2 being a reason in this case as well but admit its possible.

[Cheri_G]

Right and I am sure if they do think she met someone else from the internet, that can take time to track. I just wonder where they came up with that picture that seemsodd said that LE was stopping cars asking about.

Didn't SO say the picture was grainy or something to that effect? I got the impression it may have come from a surveillance video. Possibly from one of the businesses in the area.

[KatieLady]

I really cant see what the problem here is.. maybe Im just an idiot. :confused:

Sitting on my hands :lol:

j/k ttc :biggrin:

[KatieLady]

Didn't SO say the picture was grainy or something to that effect? I got the impression it may have come from a surveillance video. Possibly from one of the businesses in the area.

IIRC that is what the person told her...that it looked like a pic from a surveillance camera

[Ice Cycle]

Didn't SO say the picture was grainy or something to that effect? I got the impression it may have come from a surveillance video. Possibly from one of the businesses in the area.

Yes that is what she said, I just wonder if that means they think someone followed her from earlier that day in what ever she was doing.

[Cheri_G]

Yes that is what she said, I just wonder if that means they think someone followed her from earlier that day in what ever she was doing.

Could be. I was thinking maybe it was someone believed to be connected to one of the two vehicles they were looking for.

[Ice Cycle]

Could be. I was thinking maybe it was someone believed to be connected to one of the two vehicles they were looking for.

Maybe both things as if it is a picture of a store video it is possible is was somewhere she was at also.

[just42day97]

I've read that LE says they are keeping things "close to the vest". I'm starting to wonder lately if they are keeping them too close. It seems like they could clear a few things up without hurting their case. On the other hand we know they have info we don't have and probably later it will become clear why they withheld certain things and chose not to clarify others.

Yea I posted about this yesterday..it's been kept REALLY close to the vest...I would think...(JMO) that if they really thought it was a stranger and they had any kind of a lead, they would put out some kind of info about this person...like what kind of car they drive, what they look like..anything...something...And then it being reported that the family is under a gag order..that is just really strange....maybe LE/family do know something and just waiting to release the info...I hope so anyways...I hope this case hasn't gone cold....
Prayers for Kristi..:rose:

[mitzi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

Interview with DD. Sorry if it had already been posted. I'd never seen this one.

[just42day97]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYoyI9pK7Y

Interview with DD. Sorry if it had already been posted. I'd never seen this one.


wow thanks...I've never seen that one...
He talks again about being on the mt for several days...several means to me more than 3....but gagirl says he went up there to get away from the media...and he was searching...but i just don't get staying on the mt for several days...makes no sense to me at all...JMO
Also he talks about just meeting her parents and him being in blairsville 2 days before she went missing..but the reporter goes on to say that his parents had never met him...so which is it?? some of his stories just don't add up to me...I still think it would be hard for him to have anything to do with Kristi missing with him being so far away..unless he had someone else to do it....but something just isn't right with his stories....JMO...
I hope this case doesn't go cold...

[Curious]

I hope I'm not overly annoying anyone tonight. I'm sifting back through articles and interviews and posting interesting things as I find them. We might have seen them before, but sometimes looking at things again is the best way to find a new clue.

So I found this tonight and it surprised me a little:

Cornwell’s boyfriend, Douglas Davis of Carrollton, told authorities he was talking with her by cellphone as she walked down the isolated road at night when she reported that a car was following her and that she became nervous when it stopped. Investigators said Davis told them that he heard a scuffle and Cornwell shout, “Don’t take me.”


I had been under the impression that Kristi merely saw a car coming up the road and told DD that she was going to get off the road so it could pass. But this seems to indicate that the car was "following" her, which is much more menacing than just someone passing by. So if I read this correctly, a car was behind her for at least a small amount of time, possibly slowing down and following her, and then it stopped beside her or in front of her. Then I would presume someone got out, approached her, and a struggle ensued, after which she was put into the car.

I hesitate to sat this Fin, but Fate may have a point. DD has varied his story slightly. The rest IMO is the media. No new news is forcing reporters to regurgitate the same details over and over. The translation changes with one adjective or verb.

[AnniePie]

There is "devoted" and "devoted" - follow me here.

I don't know Mr Davis personally... and to be honest, I don't want to, but IF I did - it would have been a short relationship - very very short.

My Eyes For Lies see right through him... and I see a Jim Baker, a Swaggart - and the likes, that use devotion for the end means.

That's MY opinion.

Now, gagirl85, I know you are reading my words, I know you are here, who was his dinner companion?

clue me and no "Cindy Anthony mis-truths" - male or female?

No reply by the close of this thread and I will assume female.

You guys are saying some hateful things here. You don't really have a clue what DD is like; you're basing your assumptions on who he is because you dislike his "type". It's not fair to tar him with the same brush as Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart just because he's a Christian man.

[AnniePie]

I hope you take this good advice, gagirl. I would pm you but I know when I was new I didn't know to check pm's and I didn't know about vicious, mean-spirited people in MB's.

I want to personally apologize. I do not have the authority to apologize for the forum but I will publicly apologize for even being on the same thread at the same time as these disturbed individuals. I also apologize for saying that anyone on this forum was harmless.Obviously, they are capable of great harm. I'm pretty new too but I'm learning.

It's really a shame that when we get someone close to a case to post and have such a valuable source of info, they are not treated with the respect and dignity everyone deserves. It doesn't mean you have to agree or even believe, just conduct a civil conversation. It's not possible here, that's for sure.

Such an excellent post, Dr J. :wub: I agree with every word.

[Postergeist]

Such an excellent post, Dr J. :wub: I agree with every word.

Hi Annie- well, after reading the first 3 pages of this thread I was thinking someone needs to pass the bong over to get a few to chillax

:scared: just reading thru made me think I'd stumbled across some personal board brawl of pick-apart posts and made me think of one of Nancy's lines -

"second verse same as the first verse".

This case seems to veer off from the usual threads I follow of MP and trials, but I have to take into account while many cases may have some similarities, they will draw a different element.

I couldn't find any recent news reports since the 25th and nothing of real value to see this case as moving forward, imo.

Hoping the women in the area are being more cautious and choosing to be out in pairs until there is a resolution to this case.

I do wish that Kristi will return soon- but Tara's step-mom said something in the AJC that is so true,

“Somebody may have taken our loved ones, but they can never take our precious memories of them. They are ours forever.”
(Connie Grinstead)

http://www.ajc.com/news/blairsville-case-puts-highlight-123959.html


my hope is for all the missing to be found

[doctor_J]

Such an excellent post, Dr J. :wub: I agree with every word.

Thanks Annie and btw so good to see a familiar face...:laugh:

This case appears to be a terrible crime perpertrated on a truly innocent mother and daughter. I can't see a good ending here.

I so regret that the thread was hijacked for the purpose of ill will. It's so interesting to have someone associated with a case coming to post. Noone has to believe what they say, and it' s understandable that they might have an agenda. At least that agenda has nothing to do with gleeful ridicule of another human being for the purpose of entertainment.

Hope there is news soon. One thing is for sure. We won't be hearing anything from DD's daughter.

[Pomme]

Thanks Annie and btw so good to see a familiar face...:laugh:

This case appears to be a terrible crime perpertrated on a truly innocent mother and daughter. I can't see a good ending here.

I so regret that the thread was hijacked for the purpose of ill will. It's so interesting to have someone associated with a case coming to post. Noone has to believe what they say, and it' s understandable that they might have an agenda. At least that agenda has nothing to do with gleeful ridicule of another human being for the purpose of entertainment.

Hope there is news soon. One thing is for sure. We won't be hearing anything from DD's daughter.

Why are you ignoring the other posters who are posting valid reasons for distrusting or suspecting DD? His stories have varied - his actions are definitely a little strange. He may be completely innocent, but you've not addressed any of the arguments that other posters are making at this point. You're choosing to focus on 1 or 2 posters and berate them. Why not let the board moderator do that, if necessary? I also feel there has been nastiness on BOTH sides.

So what is your take on the differing statements of DD?

[doctor_J]

Why are you ignoring the other posters who are posting valid reasons for distrusting or suspecting DD? His stories have varied - his actions are definitely a little strange. He may be completely innocent, but you've not addressed any of the arguments that other posters are making at this point. You're choosing to focus on 1 or 2 posters and berate them. Why not let the board moderator do that, if necessary? I also feel there has been nastiness on BOTH sides.

So what is your take on the differing statements of DD?

I've never once defended DD. I made an attempt to defend the Poster who joined IS and was continually abused until she was forced to leave. (by name)

[doctor_J]

Douglas Davis is an alledged witness to a kidnapping. He could have chosen to speak to noone but LE. He chose to do media interviews, therefore he put himself out as fair game.

I don't agree with some of the critizisms and imo some go totally overboard in bashing him since he has reportedly been "cleared" by LE. That report came from the media as from the spokesperson for the GBI. The media is where we get all our info and it's up to any poster whether to believe what is printed. But everyone has their own opinion and he voluntarily made himself a target.

I may be the only poster at IS that actually LIKES to have someone local, or in some way associated with a particular case to come on board and post. It gives much more insight into a case and the characters involved. Doesn't mean I'll believe everything they post. Doesn't mean they're any more credible than any other poster. Just another source of info than the usual media reports.

[RainyNiteNTx]

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I may be the only poster at IS that actually LIKES to have someone local, or in some way associated with a particular case to come on board and post. It gives much more insight into a case and the characters involved. Doesn't mean I'll believe everything they post. Doesn't mean they're any more credible than any other poster. Just another source of info than the usual media reports.

I've tried to stay out of this discussion because I feel it takes away from the victim - Kristi Cornwell. However, to clarify my own personal position on this....I did not mind gagirl being here at all. In fact I reached out to her early on in a PM trying to explain message boards and give her comfort. But when I got home one day and had angry PMs from her because we continued to discuss her dad, it felt offputting. If DD's story changes (whether it be to stress, nerves, embellishment, a spark of memory, whatever), then I feel we should be able to discuss it without fear of his daughter becoming upset that we didn't just ask her, rather than calling her a liar (her words).

This has to be traumatic for her and frankly I think this message board is a tough place for her to be. She obviously adores her father which I think is commendable, but we do not know DD the way she does, and therefore his actions and words will be weighed carefully....as the last person to speak to Kristi, and as the newest person in her life (as far as we know). It is certainly not personal (at least to me) because I don't know the man. I only wish Kristi would be found and everyone, including DD and gagirl could be happy again.

All JMO...

[RainyNiteNTx]

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