Tough Job Interview Questions

[Krystal]

I am still looking for a job. I've been thinking about interview questions, since it's been awhile since I last interviewed. What are some tough interview questions, and possible good answers.

I always hated,"What are your weaknesses?"
The interview guide suggested to say working "TOO HARD", but that seems lame.

What's the toughest interview question you've had, and what do you think would be a good response?:confused:

Thanks!

[Details]

The interview guide is DEAD WRONG.

When you answer, "What is your greatest weakness" with an answer like, "I work too hard" - you've just told them that you'll lie rather than say an unpleasant truth.

Of course, you don't want to say your greatest weakness is all the drugs you do on lunch hour either. Think about what your REAL work weaknesses are, pick one out and talk about it and how you attempt to address it and improve it.

Mine was that I am not a morning person, I find it very difficult to get in on time every day - I can make an occasional needed morning meeting, but I have trouble if an early start is needed. This was a good one, because in my job, a prompt start is not needed. It is a real weakness, and I was able to say how I ameliorated it (that I can make any needed occasional morning meeting).


For all questions - remember their goals. They want to find an employee who will make them money. Your answers are all about work, your work ethic, what you find interesting about their company and the job, how fast you can learn, and you should be probing to be sure this is a good job for you too.

[Patriot]

I am still looking for a job. I've been thinking about interview questions, since it's been awhile since I last interviewed. What are some tough interview questions, and possible good answers.

I always hated,"What are your weaknesses?"
The interview guide suggested to say working "TOO HARD", but that seems lame.

What's the toughest interview question you've had, and what do you think would be a good response?:confused:

Thanks!

I always dread the question "why do you want this position"? You usually are trying for a better job because the pay and hours are better. But you don't want to say that because you don't want to appear as if you only care about the pay and hours. So you want to make some profound statement about how you can make the world a better place if you could do this job, but can't come up with something that doesn't sound stupid and/or phony. I always just said that I saw an opportunity to better myself and wanted to do so and that I was excited about the new challenges the job would introduce me to. Interviews are 90% b.s. :laugh:

Good luck with your search!

[WillowMist]

I always hated,"Why should we hire you instead of all the other equally qualified applicants!" How do you answer that without sounding conceited! :tongueside:

[Lady_Jean_La]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epcc9X1aS7o

Smile.
Be positive.
Be friendly.
Be thoughtful.
Listen carefully.
Be confident.

imo

[bearwds]

I always hated,"Why should we hire you instead of all the other equally qualified applicants!" How do you answer that without sounding conceited! :tongueside:

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"Because I will do a better job."


simple


bear

[Debb]

I have interveiwed many people and what stands out in the applicant the most is enthusiasm. When someone really wants the job, it makes a difference. Don't assume they know. Tell them at least twice that you really want the position. This always makes me remember that applicant and how they must be waiting to see if they got the job.

Also, NEVER bad mouth a former employer in an interview with a prospective employer. You would think everyone knows that, but they don't. People do it all the time. Be creative about what you may say about why you left, or say nothing at all. Even if it was not your fault and the former employer is truly horrible, do not say that in the interview. It makes the new employer wonder what you might say about them one day if the two of you part ways.

Dress appropiately. That sounds simple, but many people do not get it. Many females, think it okay to wear very low cut tops, very short skirts and very heavy makeup to an office environment. It looks odd and makes it difficult to imagine how you might fit in if you think that kind of dress is appropiate for an office.

Also, get a mental list of things you do well such as a special way you have developed with certain task. Do describe how you aided in previous jobs with projects that brought in clients or make a big sale. Don't be shy about describing your accomplishments. I have even had applicants bring in a notebook showcasing their work.

Good luck!!

[Carol25]

Another question might be, "How much do you know about our company?" You would hate to be surprised at the question and just know what it manufactures or does. It would sound like you are not specifically hopeful of this particular job, any would do.

Get to know where the company's plants are , who their consumers are and a bit about it's history. Make it sound like THIS is the job you want. And it sounds like a performer who does his homework.

[Spyder88]

That "what are you're weaknesses" can be turned into a positive.

For example, I've always said my weakness is my sarcastic humor. That I have to watch how I say things, because I can inadvertantly hurt people's feelings and I strive to be more careful how I say things. Most people understand.

OTOH, when asked what my strength is, I always say it's my sense of humor. To be able to maintain your sense of humor in a tension-filled situation can lighten many burdens.

Don't forget to send a thank you to the interviewer/s. Very important. Thank them for their time and reiterate your positive qualities and how good you'd be for the company.

The question I've always hated is, "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" I always said I saw myself in the interviewers place after they were made CEO. :tongue:

[jakee]

I have a friend, when asked what her greatest weakness was, she answered "cheese" :laugh:

I had an interview where they asked me what is one thing I would like to change about myself and I said "my nose" I really hate that question and I never like these canned questions.

I have been asked how am I living because I have been without a job for a while, she wanted to know how I was supporting myself. I didn't think that was a proper question. Is it? Maybe it was her tone I didn't like, but I didn't see how it was her business. But I answered politely because of course I needed the job! Didn't get it. :cursing:

[Debb]

Jakee, that question was inappropiate. I think how someone handles their finances is personal and not the business of the interviewer. I hope you just gave a gereric answer such as I budget my money well.

[jakee]

Jakee, that question was inappropiate. I think how someone handles their finances is personal and not the business of the interviewer. I hope you just gave a gereric answer such as I budget my money well.

Thank you! I did answer just like you said, I budget well and manage. I don't know what she thought I was going to say or why she cared. I did have some sarcastic thoughts and answers quickly running through my brain, but I held back. :smile:

[bearwds]

Jakee, that question was inappropiate. I think how someone handles their finances is personal and not the business of the interviewer. I hope you just gave a gereric answer such as I budget my money well.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought in this day and age most employers run a background check and credit check. DMV print out done if any use of company vehiciles involved.

Information is especialy important when an employee is dealing with money or the public.

The liability in these crazy days is too much not to.


bear

[TealMermaid]

When I was first out of college, I purchased a book called, "How to Turn an Interview Into a Job". I read it cover to cover, and thought I was prepared for whatever tough question they shot at me.

Well, the first thing the interviewer said was,"Tell us about yourself." My mind went blank-the book didn't mention this!:scared:I didn't get that job, but I was better prepared for my next interview!

[Details]

I always hated,"Why should we hire you instead of all the other equally qualified applicants!" How do you answer that without sounding conceited! :tongueside:You sell yourself - without slamming them.

A job interview is a sales job - you are there to sell yourself. They are there to probe for weaknesses you are hiding. It's not conceited to provide your true good qualities, you've just got to remember that.

[SavannahStar]

*snipped*

The question I've always hated is, "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?" I always said I saw myself in the interviewers place after they were made CEO. :tongue:


:lol: Now that's funny!

[Lavinia]

I always hated,"Why should we hire you instead of all the other equally qualified applicants!" How do you answer that without sounding conceited! :tongueside:

That's when I rassle 'em to the ground. :laugh:

I don't think I ever didn't get a position I applied for. I am a HUGE stickler for "looking the part" they want and being prepared. First, I find out what I can about *them* and then I know more about what they are looking for and can get the "flavor" of the company. Then, I make sure there is not one iota out of place on my resume', with proper grammar, spelling, lay-out, etc. I dress(ed) well, but simply, with my best shoes. (Shoes are what makes the world go 'round, lol.) I have pierced ears, and I wear small pearl studs, my hair is simple, but it is (was) groomed, a color found in nature, and clean. My nails were short (girl short) and clean and no color. Most of all, I showed a willingness. A willingness to learn, to face challenges, to hit the ground running, maybe having to put in extra time and effort to get started. Then I rassle 'em again. :laugh:

[WillowMist]

I think this economy is really tough for anybody seeking a job. The market is flooded with tons of very qualified unemployed people. Employers must be overwhelmed by so many qualified applicants.

My neighbor is a small business owner. He hasn't even advertised, and he keeps getting resumes mailed to him by people more qualified then him-in his opinion! He had to lay off his employees a few months back, because business was slow. It's bad out there!

Sending up prayers for anyone job hunting.:rose:

[TealMermaid]

Where I live the unemployment rate is at it's highest ever!!! There are also the most people first time unemployed ! It's TOUGH out there! Keep your head up Krystal, eventually you'll get something!

It's also hard cause each employer looks for something different. An answer that might get the job with one interviewer, won't with the next. I'd research the company before the interview, and present yourself in a way that would best fit. Praying you find the right job!:wink:

[barskin&co.]

You sell yourself - without slamming them.

A job interview is a sales job - you are there to sell yourself. They are there to probe for weaknesses you are hiding. It's not conceited to provide your true good qualities, you've just got to remember that.

Yes! You always sell yourself. The thing to do is prepare a story where you had a "weakness" and turned it into a strength.

What is your greatest weakness?
Most career books tell you to select a strength and present it as a weakness. Such as: “I work too much. I just work and work and work.” Wrong. First of all, using a strength and presenting it as a weakness is deceiving. Second, it misses the point of the question.

You should select a weakness that you have been actively working to overcome. For example: “I have had trouble in the past with planning and prioritization. However, I’m now taking steps to correct this. I just started using a pocket planner . . .” then show them your planner and how you are using it.

Talk about a true weakness and show what you are doing to overcome it.

http://www.collegegrad.com/jobsearch/Mastering-the-Interview/Ten-Tough-Interview-Questions-and-Ten-Great-Answers/

Remember this is a job interview.It is not a session with your therapist. It is not an act of confession with your local priest.

[Jayne]

I am still looking for a job. I've been thinking about interview questions, since it's been awhile since I last interviewed. What are some tough interview questions, and possible good answers.

I always hated,"What are your weaknesses?"
The interview guide suggested to say working "TOO HARD", but that seems lame.

What's the toughest interview question you've had, and what do you think would be a good response?:confused:

Thanks!

You're gonna love this one!

Tree is to Shade as Chimney is to:

1. Fireplace

2. Locomotive

3. Smoke

4. Exhaust

[Details]

I was once asked the following:

How would you handle it, if you had a coworker, maybe subordinate, who kept asking you to show them how to do a task, getting you to do their work for them, pleading ignorance of how to do the task.


I got lucky on that one - I'd dealt with exactly that in my prior job. So I described what I did. The first time I was asked - I did it, showed them how to do it. The second time, I walked them through doing it themselves. After that, I asked them what they thought should be done, validated that that was correct, and let them do it themselves. My case was a highly insecure employee who really was not trying to get out of work, just too insecure to believe she knew how to do the job.

[Krystal]

You're gonna love this one!

Tree is to Shade as Chimney is to:

1. Fireplace

2. Locomotive

3. Smoke

4. Exhaust


Is this for real???:lol:

How is your job search going? I'm trying hard not to get discouraged.

[Spyder88]

You're gonna love this one!

Tree is to Shade as Chimney is to:

1. Fireplace

2. Locomotive

3. Smoke

4. Exhaust

Hmmmm. I wonder why Santa Claus isn't on the list...:confused:

:tongue:

[Jayne]

Is this for real???:lol:

How is your job search going? I'm trying hard not to get discouraged.

YES..it was FOR REAL. I was flabbergasted. (Yes..Spyder..it was on the "test" at the interview! SANTA CLAUS..NOW..I wish you would have been on my shoulder when I answered it!) (There was another "doozie" that I won't fill up space with

I gave them the "correct" answer..according to their thinking..but then explained why it was a "trick question"..with two other possibilities. Now Santa Claus..that would have been a GREAT option! Yeah..Spyder!

Job searching? Oh..you don't want to know. Maybe I need to write a book rather than spend all this time job searching! LOL

Don't get discouraged, Krystal..the economy will pick up in..my guess 2-3 years..YEAH a long time to wait..but in the meantime...I'm trying this..search out what will be most beneficial in 2011 and 2012.

jmo

J

[bearwds]

You're gonna love this one!

Tree is to Shade as Chimney is to:

1. Fireplace

2. Locomotive

3. Smoke

4. Exhaust

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A. Kumquat


bear

[Jayne]

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A. Kumquat


bear

HAHAHA...I still love Spyder's Santa Claus! Dang where were you two when I needed you! I LOVE humour!!


Their expected Answer..guess it.

jmo

J

[bearwds]

HAHAHA...I still love Spyder's Santa Claus! Dang where were you two when I needed you! I LOVE humour!!


Their expected Answer..guess it.

jmo

J

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No.

My expected response would be to sweep the papers off the desk and bite the No.2 pencil in half.

I took those stupid questions over 30 years ago and vowed to never repeat. Any promotional milestone exams I had were situational and measured judgement. Do pretty well at those.


bear

[Lavinia]

Right after I posted above that I don't think I ever applied for a job I didn't get, I realized how arrogant that sounds. :blushing: Let me be clear that most of the jobs I have applied for a monkey could have done, and no one else wanted, lol, and really the jobs I had that were of a professional nature, I usually had an "in" with someone and I didn't just walk in cold and get it on my own. Sorry for the tone of my previous post. How embarrassing.

[Jayne]

Awh..Lavinia..I read through it and missed any "tone" of arrogance. You are far from that, my friend.

Some people have been fortunate..always got hired on interviews. Even I can say I was on almost everyone I took..until the past 5 months! LOL And, haven't been hired on any...yet...today a PT job...maybe..we'll see.

It's time consuming and a lesson in "humility" "creative thinking" "persistence" and a "don't give up attitude" plus for me a true recognition of just how "old" and, in a sense, overeducated/qualified I guess people think I am (not true at all - and I'm finding those degrees and "experience" are more of a curse than a plus). I definitely agree that it always "pays" to know someone. Everyone on my recommendation list was/is known to today's Interviewer - so although it won't pay the rent, it's a start, if it happens.

jmo

J

[PatC]

YES..it was FOR REAL. I was flabbergasted. (Yes..Spyder..it was on the "test" at the interview! SANTA CLAUS..NOW..I wish you would have been on my shoulder when I answered it!) (There was another "doozie" that I won't fill up space with

I gave them the "correct" answer..according to their thinking..but then explained why it was a "trick question"..with two other possibilities. Now Santa Claus..that would have been a GREAT option! Yeah..Spyder!

Job searching? Oh..you don't want to know. Maybe I need to write a book rather than spend all this time job searching! LOL

Don't get discouraged, Krystal..the economy will pick up in..my guess 2-3 years..YEAH a long time to wait..but in the meantime...I'm trying this..search out what will be most beneficial in 2011 and 2012.

jmo

J

C'mom.... don't leave me hanging here. What was the "correct" answer to their way of thinking.

Actually, your writing a book is probably a darn good idea. I bet you could write a good one.

:thumbup:

[PatC]

Right after I posted above that I don't think I ever applied for a job I didn't get, I realized how arrogant that sounds. :blushing: Let me be clear that most of the jobs I have applied for a monkey could have done, and no one else wanted, lol, and really the jobs I had that were of a professional nature, I usually had an "in" with someone and I didn't just walk in cold and get it on my own. Sorry for the tone of my previous post. How embarrassing.

I read that post and I didn't get a sense of arrogance at all. I just thought it contained some good, common sense advice.

[Noahs ARK]

Right after I posted above that I don't think I ever applied for a job I didn't get, I realized how arrogant that sounds. :blushing: Let me be clear that most of the jobs I have applied for a monkey could have done, and no one else wanted, lol, and really the jobs I had that were of a professional nature, I usually had an "in" with someone and I didn't just walk in cold and get it on my own. Sorry for the tone of my previous post. How embarrassing.

There was nothing wrong with the tone of your previous post - I didn't detect any arrogance at all!

I thought it was a good post with lots of good advice.

[Lavinia]

Thanks Jayne, PatC and Noah's Ark! :wub: (Couldn't get to this before the holiday forum went up.) I just didn't mean to sound so haughty when someone was struggling. While I do try to prepare myself as much as I can for an interview, I have had also good luck, good fortune and like I said, I've taken jobs that the interviewer probably only had me as an applicant, lol. They probably had pity on me that I would even reply. :unsure:

[Spyder88]

Thanks Jayne, PatC and Noah's Ark! (Couldn't get to this before the holiday forum went up.) I just didn't mean to sound so haughty when someone was struggling. While I do try to prepare myself as much as I can for an interview, I have had also good luck, good fortune and like I said, I've taken jobs that the interviewer probably only had me as an applicant, lol. They probably had pity on me that I would even reply. *snipped gifs*

I detected no haughtiness in your words, Lavinia. :shrug:

The written word is scary sometimes, because it's difficult to convey actual emotions and/or feelings. Reading and writing are a beautiful thing, but comprehension can be everything.

Some people only comprehend what they want to see and if you didn't mean it their way, you're usually in for a severe chastising while you frantically try to explain yourself. Oh well. Ya gotta love it. Consider it good practice for your book. :tongue:

But I digress...Lavinia, there is nothing wrong with the truth. I seldom had problems getting a job when I was able to work. I consider myself blessed, too. :seeya:

[Jayne]

C'mom.... don't leave me hanging here. What was the "correct" answer to their way of thinking.

Actually, your writing a book is probably a darn good idea. I bet you could write a good one.

:thumbup:

OK..."their" answer was "Smoke".

And, I answered it that way..but found it to be a "trick question" of sorts. Others I've asked about it said they would have answered Fireplace (as I almost did at first glance). (I STILL Love Spyder's "Santa Claus"! LOL)

Such a simple answer - yet, I must have read it over a few times, wondering.."what are they looking for"? And, what a question for a simple Receptionist Position. The other Oral questions were much more conducive to the position, and I wonder how others answered some of those. e.g. "With a room full of anxious patients - an hour behind of their appointment time, you're answering multiple lines ringing from prospective patients, present ones who want their prescription filled NOW, who want to speak to the doctor, and those in the waiting room - they're standing above you complaining, the doctor is busy with a patient - how do you handle it?"

"Cry"? Just kidding. Now, THAT, was a good question, IMO.

jmo

J

[Lavinia]

Thanks Spyder!

Jayne, I would HATE those types of questions. Aren't those always the ones that make you lie in bed for many nights thinking up the answer you *wish* you had said?! ARGH! How frustrating!!! (Just like when someone is mean to you and you only have some lame comeback and later you come up with this really wicked comeback that you just KNOW would have taken them to their knees. :laugh:)

[Spyder88]

OK..."their" answer was "Smoke".

And, I answered it that way..but found it to be a "trick question" of sorts. Others I've asked about it said they would have answered Fireplace (as I almost did at first glance). (I STILL Love Spyder's "Santa Claus"! LOL)

Such a simple answer - yet, I must have read it over a few times, wondering.."what are they looking for"? And, what a question for a simple Receptionist Position. The other Oral questions were much more conducive to the position, and I wonder how others answered some of those. e.g. "With a room full of anxious patients - an hour behind of their appointment time, you're answering multiple lines ringing from prospective patients, present ones who want their prescription filled NOW, who want to speak to the doctor, and those in the waiting room - they're standing above you complaining, the doctor is busy with a patient - how do you handle it?"

"Cry"? Just kidding. Now, THAT, was a good question, IMO.

jmo

J

I would put everyone on hold. Then I'd yell at everyone in the office to just shut up and that I'd get to them when I could and if they didn't like it....TOUGH. They could just go to someone who's better at time management than Dr. Happypill. :angry: As for filling someone's prescription...well...that's what drugstores are for. :mad: Then, I would just continue on manicuring my toenails. :tonguewag: Might as well get something constructive done...

[Jayne]

I would put everyone on hold. Then I'd yell at everyone in the office to just shut up and that I'd get to them when I could and if they didn't like it....TOUGH. They could just go to someone who's better at time management than Dr. Happypill. :angry: As for filling someone's prescription...well...that's what drugstores are for. :mad: Then, I would just continue on manicuring my toenails. :tonguewag: Might as well get something constructive done...

HAHAHA...I agree. But this was a Real Question..proposed "face to face" (or should I say Stern face to almost Grin/Amazement?).

I mean Who do these people want for hardly above minimum wage? God? divide the loaves and fishes and make everyone happy? While..as you said Dr. Happypill is Behind Schedule?

jmo

J

[Krystal]

Right after I posted above that I don't think I ever applied for a job I didn't get, I realized how arrogant that sounds. :blushing: Let me be clear that most of the jobs I have applied for a monkey could have done, and no one else wanted, lol, and really the jobs I had that were of a professional nature, I usually had an "in" with someone and I didn't just walk in cold and get it on my own. Sorry for the tone of my previous post. How embarrassing.

I didn't think you sounded arrogant. I thought you sounded like a confident woman!:thumbup:

I am trying to stay positive, but I'm starting to feel demoralized! It's discouraging to send resumes, and not even get a response. My past supervisor helped me with the resume, and I've been told it's impressive, but the economy is so bad. Still it's so stressful!

[Jayne]

I didn't think you sounded arrogant. I thought you sounded like a confident woman!:thumbup:

I am trying to stay positive, but I'm starting to feel demoralized! It's discouraging to send resumes, and not even get a response. My past supervisor helped me with the resume, and I've been told it's impressive, but the economy is so bad. Still it's so stressful!

Krystal..jumping in here again. Stay Positive. I feel "demoralized" too - too often. The economy stinks..it is stressful, and like another poster responded to me..No One WILL hire me..because they figure I'll go for something better. WRONG. I want a job..a secure one..I have a child to support and get through school. I will NOT leave a job for at least 2-3 years. But..I guess that poster knows that an employer doesn't really care. They'll take a lower experienced/educated person..who may leave them Anyway in a year or two..for a higher paying job? I know she meant well..but that post..not personal to me, I'm sure, made me feel pretty demoralized. I am not about making the almighty dollar..I want a job that I can work..close to home..bring in the "bacon" (or at least part of it)..and not "stress". If someone offered me a job..miles from here at twice, thrice the salary..I can tell you..if I had one here..I'd say "no thanks". I'm not single..I'm not about making the mightly dollar or having the Porsche in my driveway. I'm trying to make ends meet and take care of my child..just like others do. So..throw my education to the wind..forget my past experience..and put me on "par" with the other applicants.. Can I type? Can I answer a phone? Can I direct clients in the waiting room? Can I dress appropriately? Can I stay "overtime"? CAN I ADD TO THE BUSINESS? (You bet I can..that is where they are losing..if they don't consider me.)
I'd be very grateful for a job..close by..that maybe pays "not so much" but has really nice people to work with..within a decent driving distance..would give me a few years of security at least.

They don't know what they are missing Krystal - IMO.

I don't even want to count the resumes and applications that I've sent without responses...try at least 3 per day..for 4-5 months...responses..maybe 5% ..interviews..well..let's say it hit about 0.5%.

Don't despair. Please. I'm not a happy camper with this..but I believe in others. Something has to give.

jmo

J

[Krystal]

Hi Jayne,

Thanks for the pep talk. I want to stay positive, but it's so hard. I've applied for many jobs that I'm over-qualified for, and THEY DON'T WANT ME!!! What am I going to do when my unemployment runs out!!! We're barely getting by with it!:sad:

[Bottrell]

If all these jobs you are all applying for SAY you are overqualified for the positions how about you "dummy down" your resume's just a tad to fit the position you are applying for? It is not unethical to dummy it down it is ILLEGAL to "inhance" one. If you have a Master's, PHD, and all these credentials are/were a teacher and say you are applying for a office position at a school why not just put down that you were/ar a teacher and the college you went to without listing post grad yaddax12 pumping up to show you have the "stuff" when it is not needed for an office position. I used to be in H/R and if I saw a college educated up the gazuuuu resume come in for one of the positions we needed filled vs a person who may or may not have gone to college we and the final decision wasn't mine alone but we took the one who fit best with us that we felt was going to be long time not just looking to fill the gap until they found something better. JMHO and thoughts. Be a little humble and I know you guys are trying but if you are hearing over and over you are over qualified then take it down a notch or two.

[Jayne]

Thanks Bottrell. Much appreciated. I've "redone" several of my resumes, but I am concerned about not putting down a particular "degree" - even though..yes, as you say..I'd be "down-hancing" it rather then "enhancing it". However the ethical group I am obligated to comply with (even if I work as a supermarket clerk..rather than under that profession that is so ethically regulated) would see it as being "unethical/dishonest" to not list it..so I'm kind of in a conundrum. I get your point, however, and I will "try it"..I definitely have when applying for performing/teaching jobs..they don't need to know the other degrees..it isn't relevant. So..yeah..maybe an office position only needs to know the UnderGrad degree and the experience.

It's quite a trip.

Much appreciated.

jmo

J

[Bottrell]

Thanks Bottrell. Much appreciated. I've "redone" several of my resumes, but I am concerned about not putting down a particular "degree" - even though..yes, as you say..I'd be "down-hancing" it rather then "enhancing it". However the ethical group I am obligated to comply with (even if I work as a supermarket clerk..rather than under that profession that is so ethically regulated) would see it as being "unethical/dishonest" to not list it..so I'm kind of in a conundrum. I get your point, however, and I will "try it"..I definitely have when applying for performing/teaching jobs..they don't need to know the other degrees..it isn't relevant. So..yeah..maybe an office position only needs to know the UnderGrad degree and the experience.

It's quite a trip.

Much appreciated.

jmo

J
See right there you go with "even if I work as a supermarket clerk...." When I was H/R it was for a large National grocery chain. Supermarket clerks at the time I left were being paid if you were a Journeyman $16.27 per hour with full benefits, time and a half for working Sundays, different pay scale increases for any hours work after 6 pm, 9 pm and 11 pm. Double time and a half for working holidays..you get the point. Grocery clerks do have a high level of ethical obligations to comply with. So the whole unethical if you leave out a degree I am not getting so I will leave it at that and just consider that you wouldn't make it in the grocery biz. It is strenuous hard labor when you consider in 1 8 hour shift an avg checker in a major grocery store lifts a cumulative total "on avg" of 10,000 lbs.

[Jayne]

See right there you go with "even if I work as a supermarket clerk...." When I was H/R it was for a large National grocery chain. Supermarket clerks at the time I left were being paid if you were a Journeyman $16.27 per hour with full benefits, time and a half for working Sundays, different pay scale increases for any hours work after 6 pm, 9 pm and 11 pm. Double time and a half for working holidays..you get the point. Grocery clerks do have a high level of ethical obligations to comply with. So the whole unethical if you leave out a degree I am not getting so I will leave it at that and just consider that you wouldn't make it in the grocery biz. It is strenuous hard labor when you consider in 1 8 hour shift an avg checker in a major grocery store lifts a cumulative total "on avg" of 10,000 lbs.

No..Bottrell..I do get it. I have one of the highest ethical obligations of the state/country with my highest degree. So I can't leave it off a resume..I won't leave it off. But it works for or against me (the degree..not the ethical obligations).

Grocery biz..yep..you're right. I wouldn't make it..for physical reasons..not intellectual or educational. I had two hips replaced..I can't lift more than 10 pounds and not carry it very far. I was not putting down "even if I work as a grocery clerk"..as if it's a bad job..I'd be happy to have one - I've applied in three places..I was making a comparison.

Maybe something got lost in the translation here. I'm absolutely NOT for being unethical..In fact I'm against being Unethical. So maybe I didn't get this last post? (Been in H.R. too.)

Thanks for your input..I was thanking you..but your latest response..deserves another thank you.

best to you and thanks so much for your input for me and Krystal and others.

jmo

J

[WillowMist]

No..Bottrell..I do get it. I have one of the highest ethical obligations of the state/country with my highest degree. So I can't leave it off a resume..I won't leave it off. But it works for or against me (the degree..not the ethical obligations).

Grocery biz..yep..you're right. I wouldn't make it..for physical reasons..not intellectual or educational. I had two hips replaced..I can't lift more than 10 pounds and not carry it very far. I was not putting down "even if I work as a grocery clerk"..as if it's a bad job..I'd be happy to have one - I've applied in three places..I was making a comparison.

Maybe something got lost in the translation here. I'm absolutely NOT for being unethical..In fact I'm against being Unethical. So maybe I didn't get this last post? (Been in H.R. too.)




Thanks for your input..I was thanking you..but your latest response..deserves another thank you.

best to you and thanks so much for your input for me and Krystal and others.

jmo

J

Hi Jayne,

I don't get what you mean about ethical obligations with your highest degree?:confused: Could you explain that. Is it unethical to leave some of your education off your resume?

[Bottrell]

No..Bottrell..I do get it. I have one of the highest ethical obligations of the state/country with my highest degree. So I can't leave it off a resume..I won't leave it off. But it works for or against me (the degree..not the ethical obligations).

Grocery biz..yep..you're right. I wouldn't make it..for physical reasons..not intellectual or educational. I had two hips replaced..I can't lift more than 10 pounds and not carry it very far. I was not putting down "even if I work as a grocery clerk"..as if it's a bad job..I'd be happy to have one - I've applied in three places..I was making a comparison.

Maybe something got lost in the translation here. I'm absolutely NOT for being unethical..In fact I'm against being Unethical. So maybe I didn't get this last post? (Been in H.R. too.)

Thanks for your input..I was thanking you..but your latest response..deserves another thank you.

best to you and thanks so much for your input for me and Krystal and others.

jmo

J
It is not unethical to leave something off your resume that is a positive. It is unethical to leave something out that is a negative on an application etc. So I was trying to point out that by listing all accomplishments, awards, schooling etc etc etc when applying for a job that clearly does not need to have those requirements is overkill and it is NOT unethical to leave off that you have a Masters or whatever and have been a member of the bar in however many states etc. Humility goes a long way when your in a job market such as today. Employers want the most qualified for the job who will stay with them not just "say" they will now. People when applying for a job ALWAYS say they will stay with the company. That is a given, you wouldn't answer that question oh yeah if hired I am only going to be here until something better comes along. With a fully loaded resume for an average office type job that anyone could do for example a future employer knows that. Hence "you are over qualified."

[WillowMist]

It is not unethical to leave something off your resume that is a positive. It is unethical to leave something out that is a negative on an application etc. So I was trying to point out that by listing all accomplishments, awards, schooling etc etc etc when applying for a job that clearly does not need to have those requirements is overkill and it is NOT unethical to leave off that you have a Masters or whatever and have been a member of the bar in however many states etc. Humility goes a long way when your in a job market such as today. Employers want the most qualified for the job who will stay with them not just "say" they will now. People when applying for a job ALWAYS say they will stay with the company. That is a given, you wouldn't answer that question oh yeah if hired I am only going to be here until something better comes along. With a fully loaded resume for an average office type job that anyone could do for example a future employer knows that. Hence "you are over qualified."


My friend has a Masters Degree. She is unemployed and interviewed for a job at an answering service. She said they asked her questions like she was applying to be President of the Company. She didn't get hired, and said it was degrading! She said they made her feel like she needed a Doctorate Degree for a job that paid a tad over minimum wage!

[Bottrell]

My friend has a Masters Degree. She is unemployed and interviewed for a job at an answering service. She said they asked her questions like she was applying to be President of the Company. She didn't get hired, and said it was degrading! She said they made her feel like she needed a Doctorate Degree for a job that paid a tad over minimum wage!

Did your friend give a resume when applying for the job that stated everything including a Masters Degree? If so that is exactly my point. Employers will look at that as hmmmmm she has a Master's Degree in ______ and is applying to work for us here at the answering service. I know your friend like everyone else who is looking and needs a job will go to wherever they can get hired knowing full well they can do the job. BUT the employers want longevity not just until I get something better. And they know with qualifications stated on a resume that are very high they are going to be wasting their time and money training that person so they pass on them. It's hard but that is the way it is. Bottom line. I truly hope everyone here looking finds a job. I really do it's just really bad out there everywhere and it is an Employer's market so to speak and they have a bottom line so they can stay in business. Not filling positions with people who they feel will leave in a year or two or even next month. It costs them money to hire and train. Good luck to all.

[TealMermaid]

Did your friend give a resume when applying for the job that stated everything including a Masters Degree? If so that is exactly my point. Employers will look at that as hmmmmm she has a Master's Degree in ______ and is applying to work for us here at the answering service. I know your friend like everyone else who is looking and needs a job will go to wherever they can get hired knowing full well they can do the job. BUT the employers want longevity not just until I get something better. And they know with qualifications stated on a resume that are very high they are going to be wasting their time and money training that person so they pass on them. It's hard but that is the way it is. Bottom line. I truly hope everyone here looking finds a job. I really do it's just really bad out there everywhere and it is an Employer's market so to speak and they have a bottom line so they can stay in business. Not filling positions with people who they feel will leave in a year or two or even next month. It costs them money to hire and train. Good luck to all.


Can't someone with an advanced degree start with an entry level job, and be promoted quickly-if they perform well at the job?

It seems that people are being punished for working hard, and getting advanced degrees in this job market.:huh:

[bearwds]

Can't someone with an advanced degree start with an entry level job, and be promoted quickly-if they perform well at the job?

It seems that people are being punished for working hard, and getting advanced degrees in this job market.:huh:

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The short answer is...generally, no.

Why do you think that a particular job has come on the market..??

It needs to be filled...not some future pie-in-the-sky fast track employment sled.

The need is now. The employer is not there for you.

The "generally" is for folks who are starting in an apprenticeship position (like the grocery clerk making $8 to start w/limited bennies), or the nursing student with a CNA in hand and training to be a nurse.

<<I'm not guilty in any of this--I left my job about 3-years ago,
you're welcome to it...har>> BUT..I did everything from apprenticeship's to school, and clawed my way to where I wanted to be.


bear

ps... The MOST practical thing I can suggest is networking. Break out the Rolodex and hit the trade shows.

[Jayne]

It is not unethical to leave something off your resume that is a positive. It is unethical to leave something out that is a negative on an application etc. So I was trying to point out that by listing all accomplishments, awards, schooling etc etc etc when applying for a job that clearly does not need to have those requirements is overkill and it is NOT unethical to leave off that you have a Masters or whatever and have been a member of the bar in however many states etc. Humility goes a long way when your in a job market such as today. Employers want the most qualified for the job who will stay with them not just "say" they will now. People when applying for a job ALWAYS say they will stay with the company. That is a given, you wouldn't answer that question oh yeah if hired I am only going to be here until something better comes along. With a fully loaded resume for an average office type job that anyone could do for example a future employer knows that. Hence "you are over qualified."


Thank you so much for your insight.

J