UPDATE 9/21--900 summoned for jury selection(begins 9/21) in Lemaricus Davidson trial

[kattitude]

KNOXVILLE (WATE) -- Nine hundred potential jurors will be summoned for preliminary jury selection next week in the trial of Lemaricus Davidson, according to Knox County court officials.

The jury pool will come to the Civic Coliseum on Tuesday, September 1 to fill out questionnaires.

Davidson is charged in the 2007 carjacking, rapes and murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

Another suspect in the case, George Thomas, is scheduled to be tried in October. The questions for his jury pool were turned in Monday.

Source: WATE Knoxville (http://www.wate.com/global/story.asp?s=10985745)

[anais2005]

should hopefully get 12 and a few alternates out of that lot, plus the trials are not as long as jurors possibly feared so finding people who can give up a couple of weeks versus months will make it easier,

pros will have there presentation ready from the get go as they have just convicted one, so it is the defence who will be playing catch up

[Cornblossom]

should hopefully get 12 and a few alternates out of that lot, plus the trials are not as long as jurors possibly feared so finding people who can give up a couple of weeks versus months will make it easier,

pros will have there presentation ready from the get go as they have just convicted one, so it is the defence who will be playing catch upthe judge wanted him to pick a jury out of area but he refused...it may be hard to get jurors from that area who haven't heard of or formed an opinion of the crimes.

[toyguytn]

the judge wanted him to pick a jury out of area but he refused...it may be hard to get jurors from that area who haven't heard of or formed an opinion of the crimes.

Speaking as someone who is from Knoxville, it will be next to impossible. I haven't met anyone who hasn't had their minds made up on this one. I have heard MANY friends talk about how the Cobbins trial was streamed in their workplace and everyone watched. I don't understand what he is thinking. He can't even get a conviction thrown out over a tainted jury pool since he demanded it be a local jury.

[anais2005]

the judge wanted him to pick a jury out of area but he refused...it may be hard to get jurors from that area who haven't heard of or formed an opinion of the crimes.

I don't understand what the defence strategy could be in insisting on a Knox jury, when previously they had been demanding one from elsewhere, but they are insistent,

maybe he thinks the people of Knox will give him a pass cos of his addictions, who knows, I wonder if they will point the finger even harder at the now convicted Cobbins, who may be on death row by September,

just got alot of pesky DNA to explain away, and alot of fingerprint evidence, he is the one of the 4 with the most physical evidence against him

[kattitude]

Speaking as someone who is from Knoxville, it will be next to impossible. I haven't met anyone who hasn't had their minds made up on this one. I have heard MANY friends talk about how the Cobbins trial was streamed in their workplace and everyone watched. I don't understand what he is thinking. He can't even get a conviction thrown out over a tainted jury pool since he demanded it be a local jury.

I agree with you. I'm 75 miles west of Knoxville and even here people have heard about this and formed an opinion. Anyone in the viewing area of Knoxville has saw or read about these murders on the news every night for 2 and a half years.
There is just no way they will be able to find a Knox jury.

[Dogmatic]

Speaking as someone who is from Knoxville, it will be next to impossible. I haven't met anyone who hasn't had their minds made up on this one. I have heard MANY friends talk about how the Cobbins trial was streamed in their workplace and everyone watched. I don't understand what he is thinking. He can't even get a conviction thrown out over a tainted jury pool since he demanded it be a local jury.

IMO, he's hoping to get one sympathizer. i.e. someone who has purchased drugs from him,
someone who is scared of his gang, someone who condones his way of life.

[Details]

Those disgusting people who make this about race, who blame the victims - I think he's hoping to get one of those. I don't think he's got a chance in hades - but I think that's what he's thinking.

[Mandysmom]

I think the jury will be fair, I hope so anyway.

I have a question. Are they going to use Cobbin's interviews accusing Davidson of the whole thing in the trial or does anybody know?

[kattitude]

I think the jury will be fair, I hope so anyway.

I have a question. Are they going to use Cobbin's interviews accusing Davidson of the whole thing in the trial or does anybody know?

I just really don't think they are going to find a fair jury in Knoxville. Knoxville does have crime, but these two murders have been the biggest headlines in Knoxville for the past 2 and a half years. Like I said before, I live 75 miles from Knoxville, everyone here with a tv gets Knoxville for their local channels. Most of east Tn knows about this case has I would bet that they have already formed an opinion. There's no way around that.

I don't know what his attorneys are thinking with this decision.

As far as Cobbin's interviews, I would think the Prosecution would. It's evidence. But I don't really know.

[Cornblossom]

I just really don't think they are going to find a fair jury in Knoxville. Knoxville does have crime, but these two murders have been the biggest headlines in Knoxville for the past 2 and a half years. Like I said before, I live 75 miles from Knoxville, everyone here with a tv gets Knoxville for their local channels. Most of east Tn knows about this case has I would bet that they have already formed an opinion. There's no way around that.

I don't know what his attorneys are thinking with this decision.

As far as Cobbin's interviews, I would think the Prosecution would. It's evidence. But I don't really know.
He is the boss...it is his decision....not his lawyers to get a local jury.

[aproudmom]

IMO, he's hoping to get one sympathizer. i.e. someone who has purchased drugs from him,
someone who is scared of his gang, someone who condones his way of life.

IMO it is about delay delay delay delay with these scumbags...his choice and his lawyers don't even know why he wants a Jury from there..just like his Lil bro going against his lawyer's and getting on the stand..:angry:


just a refresher of his statement I read it a couple months ago but heck can not believe a word out of the crack heads mouth..do they even know the truth with all the brain cells they have killed smoking at the kitchen table..
http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/071809carjack_transcript_davidson.pdf

[anais2005]

jury questionnaire done, being sent out end of August to 1000 potential Knox jurors,

Thomas still wants a jury from outside Knox

Coleman is still fighting to get her charges dropped

[wnb]

It has occured to me why Davidson is insistent on a Knox County jury. As I mentioned in another thread, appellate judges look over DP verdicts extra carefully and reverse them if they can find any reason. I consider it very likely, if not almost certain, that if Davidson gets the DP in a Knoxville trial, it will be reversed on the grounds of "pre-trial publicity." His attorneys are going along with the idea (if they did not talk him into this strategy).

I don't think any of the defendants will ever get the DP, much less actually executed. There is no chance of either Coleman or Thomas receiving the DP in my opinion. Between severing the case into 4 trials and bringing in juries outside Knox county, the defendants are not going to pay anywhere near as they should for the agonizing torture they inflicted on Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

[ExArkie]

Does anyone know WHY this trial was split into several trials instead of ONE big one - is it because of the DP? We cannot afford to have this kind of a split spectacle - we are going to "fair" ourselves into bankruptcy - oh, I forgot, we already have!:cursing:

[wnb]

Does anyone know WHY this trial was split into several trials instead of ONE big one - is it because of the DP? We cannot afford to have this kind of a split spectacle - we are going to "fair" ourselves into bankruptcy - oh, I forgot, we already have!:cursing:

The judge severed the case into 4 trials as a way of keeping himself from being reversed. The judge seems to have been doing this all along. This makes it hard to convict even with dead-bang evidence. Each defendant just blames the others not in the room. In the Cobbins trial, his attorney called Davidson and Boyd the ringleaders and even his relatives blamed his half-brother. When Davidson goes on trial, he will call Cobbins the ringleader.

[wnb]

wnb, I think his reason is darker for wanting a Knoxville jury. There is a real, but small, undercurrent in Knoxville that appears to believe that Channon shot Chris, and Daphne killed Channon, and the others are pure victims of white desire for black sex and drugs.

I find this totally shocking, and beyond belief that anyone would think that, but there are those who do.

And I think he's hoping for one of them to be on his jury. That's his only hope, in my opinion, of avoiding the DP.

I don't think a death penalty qualified jury who has never heard of this case, or has heard little, would not give him the DP. His only hope is to get a conspiracy non-believer.

The judge chose Nashville jurors for the obvious reason of having many more blacks than a Knox County jury panel would. I don't think Davidson could depend on the "small undercurrent" in Knoxville. There may be no telling what he thinks. I don't especially care. I'm just afraid a death penalty verdict in Knox County would be reversed.

Since Channon and Chris were abducted outside the Washington Bridge Apartments, it has gone from bad to worse to the worst imaginable.

[wnb]

Those summoned for jury selection begin filling out the questionnaires today. It appears that Davidson and his legal team are hoping that it will be impossible to impanel a jury. This would delay the trial for years.

The idiot judge in again asking Davidson to agree to a jury from outside Knox County said that "interest has only increased during the Cobbins trial." Well, what did you expect to happen? This is the result of severing the case into four trials.

[dgfred]

Yep, should have tried them together... but maybe not Vanessa, use her for her testimony and try her seperately.

[wnb]

Less than half of the 900 potential jurors summoned for orientation showed up. Only 386 answered the summons.

[Search4U]

Less than half of the 900 potential jurors summoned for orientation showed up. Only 386 answered the summons.

How can they just not show up?? In Indiana, we get in trouble if we're a no show!

[ExArkie]

Here in Florida, we are excused from jury duty if we are at or above the age of 70 - is this true all over the country; or, just in Florida? Of course, you may DO the jury duty if you choose - they just can't make you - I'm 77 and answered a summons for duty about 2 years ago - of course, they didn't pick me for anything and I believe it was because of my age - ageism - I should sue!:rolleyes::biggrin:

I was on a DP case about 10 years ago. Not a pleasant thing to do, believe me - we didn't have to go to the guilt phase, though. After this jerk had been found guilty, his lawyer copped a plea for life without parole - I was very happy I didn't have to make that decision.:sad:

[Details]

I would kinda like to see that made a law - that one crime is one trial - all the defendants at once. Makes it harder for the defense to claim in separate trials that a different guy is the bad guy - the jury has to pick who is the bad guy. And it makes it harder for the prosecution to paint each member of a gang as the one who pulled the trigger.

I saw this at work in the OJ trial - and it really worked well. When either defendant tried to point the finger at the other, they could be challenged by that defendant. It kept things more honest, IMO. And you cannot have the defendants changing their testimony for each of their friends to point the finger at the one not on trial at that time, if they are all up on trial.

Try all of these guys at once. It's one crime, there is one true story of what happened, give the jury the position and the defenses of all of these guys, and let them decide who is more and less responsible, if anyone.

[aproudmom]

Does anyone know WHY this trial was split into several trials instead of ONE big one - is it because of the DP? We cannot afford to have this kind of a split spectacle - we are going to "fair" ourselves into bankruptcy - oh, I forgot, we already have!:cursing:

I have wondered the same thing

[dgfred]

I hate that one little wrong decision (trial together) might end up letting most of the monsters getting to live out their lives in a virtual entertainment center.

[Details]

The reason for multiple trials is usually something to do with the rights of the defendant - and this is not something to mess with, because we do have to consider the innocent defendant. Not in this case - we only have defendants with varying degrees of guilt - but you cannot say that we change the rules whenever we feel like it.

Imagine you are the guy they bought the trashbags from - and maybe there was the slightest hint something was up, that you ignored - so you are pulled in on the trial. It's a realistic possibility that the jurors would be so disgusted by your co-defendants that you would get a sentence that your actions did not deserve.

That's the most defensible reason I can see. The less defensible reasons have to do with being able to put on any defense you like - and a defense of "Charlie did it" is far harder to do with Charlie as a codefendant. IMO -that's a good thing.

Personally, I think they should do it. But these are the reasons I see why they do not.

[wnb]

Gary and Deena Christian were on a Knoxville radio talk show Tuesday for a lengthy interview split into 6 parts. They talk about how the justice system is for victims of crime. Aside from everything else, they have had their lives threatened for the temerity of speaking on TV about what was done to their daughter. Google "Hallerin Hilton Hill, Gary Christian," and you can find it.

[Mandysmom]

Gary and Deena Christian were on a Knoxville radio talk show Tuesday for a lengthy interview split into 6 parts. They talk about how the justice system is for victims of crime. Aside from everything else, they have had their lives threatened for the temerity of speaking on TV about what was done to their daughter. Google "Hallerin Hilton Hill, Gary Christian," and you can find it.

Thank you WNB.

:smile: I'm going to look it up now. I'm already mad and haven't read it yet.

[ExArkie]

I hate that one little wrong decision (trial together) might end up letting most of the monsters getting to live out their lives in a virtual entertainment center.

Unfortunately, looks like that is going to be the outcome anyway - we might as well have saved a few dollars and got the same result - of course, I do feel that the monster-in-chief is going to get the DP.:thumbdown: But with separate trials, who knows?

[aubrey04]

Unfortunately, looks like that is going to be the outcome anyway - we might as well have saved a few dollars and got the same result - of course, I do feel that the monster-in-chief is going to get the DP.:thumbdown: But with separate trials, who knows?

At the end of the day, Davidson's DNA from sperm was found in Channon's vagina & anus. No matter how much finger pointing Davidson tries to do.... the person most linked to the crime is Davidson.. (followed by Cobbins).

Thomas and Coleman may have luck in their trials with the finger pointing/blame game, like Cobbins.. but I don't see how Davidson will swing it.

imo

[ExArkie]

When will we find out if or when a jury has been seated? Are the results of the questionnaires being argued over right now in closed court? When is the next time the public (and cameras) will be allowed in the court? Does anyone know?

[Mandysmom]

Gary and Deena Christian were on a Knoxville radio talk show Tuesday for a lengthy interview split into 6 parts. They talk about how the justice system is for victims of crime. Aside from everything else, they have had their lives threatened for the temerity of speaking on TV about what was done to their daughter. Google "Hallerin Hilton Hill, Gary Christian," and you can find it.

I listened to this interview last night. It is heartbreaking and maddening at the same time.

The jury was never allowed to see a pic of Channon or Chris alive.
The families were admonished for crying in the courtroom, while the Cobbins family was allowed to sob and show pics of baby Latalvis.

The victim's impact statements had to be pre approved by the judge and could not be changed to include any words from the Newsom's statements (which was what Gary and Deena wanted to do), even though Cobbins was found guilty of a lesser charge of murder in their son's death.

Cobbins was found guilty of FELONY MURDER which is eligible for the death penalty and even though the jury agreed to render the penalty if the crime fit, they didn't.

Emotion was not allowed from the victim's families, the judge told them that they couldn't get the jury emotional.

Why in the living Hades were the Cobbins relatives allowed to carry on the way they did then?

Gary Christian said the reason he rocked back and forth and gripped the back of the seats was because he wasn't allowed to cry or show any other emotion and it was eating him up.

I can understand that. I'm so angry after listening to this and what they are being put through continually, and by this judge, who makes me just sick.

:cursing:

[Roux]

Everybody interested in this case should hear this interview.

wnb do you know if anyone on the jury has been contacted by media? Has anyone had the courage of their convictions, i.e., to stand up and defend their verdict? Just as Mandysmom posted, they found Cobbins guilty of felony murder but yet wimped out on the DP. They relied on emotion IMO. No way the mitigating factors outwieghed the horrible acts.

I usually don't like to bash the jury but this one deserves it.

[Mandysmom]

Everybody interested in this case should hear this interview.

I agree. The more I listened, the more I could feel the frustration that the victim's families are feeling.

Some very interesting stuff in that interview that did not come out at trial.

I wish this judge had been replaced, he seems to be just bending over backwards to the defendants or the monsters in this case.

I did get a chuckle out of Gary Christian saying he thought the whole city of Memphis was gonna show up and talk about what a sweet, innocent little boy Letalvis was. lol

[wnb]

wnb do you know if anyone on the jury has been contacted by media? Has anyone had the courage of their convictions, i.e., to stand up and defend their verdict? Just as Mandysmom posted, they found Cobbins guilty of felony murder but yet wimped out on the DP. They relied on emotion IMO. No way the mitigating factors outwieghed the horrible acts.

I usually don't like to bash the jury but this one deserves it.

No one from the jury has made any comments. If they had, it would have been in the news.

[dgfred]

I believe they probably want to go into hiding after that pitiful exibition of justice.

[wnb]

I agree. The more I listened, the more I could feel the frustration that the victim's families are feeling.

Some very interesting stuff in that interview that did not come out at trial.

I wish this judge had been replaced, he seems to be just bending over backwards to the defendants or the monsters in this case.

I did get a chuckle out of Gary Christian saying he thought the whole city of Memphis was gonna show up and talk about what a sweet, innocent little boy Letalvis was. lol

Four more interview segments have been posted. The last two are with the Newsoms.

[anais2005]

Davidsons prior felony conviction will not be allowed to be mentioned at his trial unless he chooses to testify

[Details]

I believe they probably want to go into hiding after that pitiful exibition of justice.They found him guilty - something people here were quite happy about. They didn't fall for any of the defense's tricks.

We don't know what motivated their choice of LWOP versus the DP. Maybe they felt that it should be reserved for the people who actually killed the victims, leaving LWOP for those who were accessories. This is an outrageous crime - but they had to consider what the person on trial in front of them was actually guilty of - and I can sure see how it could be quite hard to decide that a person who did not kill someone should be sentenced to death. And they weren't presented with a story that he killed either of them.

I think the prosecution could have changed that - presented how what he likely did could have killed her at any stage - but I don't like blaming a jury when we don't know what they saw. Currently, the penalty for rape and torture is not death. If they saw that as what he did, I can understand their decision. They still found him guilty on most of the counts, everything the prosecutor presented evidence about.

[RayStar]

Details you posted that the jury did not fall for the defense's tricks and I agree. However, I felt there weren't many tricks played not like in the King murder trial. I saw the defense attorney really trying to get out of this case. The worst part was the family of the defendant on the stand begging for his life to be spared. Now that sent my BP soaring. I like what you said about LWOP for accessories and the DP for the actual murderer. That makes me not be so angry.

All and all I want the DP for them all in this case.

I think I would like to be on this jury but the only way I could be would to lie and that's a no-no.

[Details]

The defense went for consensual sex, and just oral - that was their main defense. They rejected that entirely. The prosecution never presented to suggest he killed either her nor him, nor anything to suggest this guy was responsible for his death. The verdict reflected that.

The penalty - I sure know what you mean about wanting the DP for everyone - it is an outrageous crime, just the worst of the worst, and to wipe off of humanity this stain, I sure understand that. But as a jury - you've got to look to what each person really did - what they knew about, what they did, what they encouraged.

[aproudmom]

the Jury had 80 questions and 1 was do you watch or read TruTV or In Session....

[aproudmom]

No one from the jury has made any comments. If they had, it would have been in the news.

I wonder if they are scared..or just don't want to think about it and talk about it...I think the short statement read pretty much said it all they feel the ringleader should get death so leave it to another jury to give some JUSTICE in this case...IMO they all deserve the DP anyone of them could have let Shannon go they all need to be stuffed in a trash can with a bag over their face and laid out on a railroad track and set a fire IMO..and that is the nicest way I can put it without getting banned:cursing:

[anais2005]

Judge hopes trial starts on Oct 5th,

defence still filing motions over wanting the evidence supressing,

I can't see him testifying if he can be impeached with his prior crimes, but who knows - Cobbins imo talked himself into a conviction for murder,

let the blame game begin once again, Davidson will blame Cobbins and Boyd, maybe even Thomas and Coleman will get thrown under the bus,

anybody know if the same judge will be doing all the following trials?

[dgfred]

Sorry Details but imo they ALL deserve the DP... like somebody else posted any one of them could have let her go or at least called the police, instead they left her to die even if they did not have an actual hand in the murder itself.

[Roux]

Regarding the defense objection to fingerprint testimony, IIRC there was something featured on 60 Minutes about how someone had discovered errors in fingerprint identifications. (Sounds like something Henry Lee would te$tify to, doesn't it?) There might have been errors in some cases, but IMO not in this case.

I don't care for Judge Baumgartner. He reminds me a little of Don Imus, but that's not why I don't care for him.:smile:

[RayStar]

The defense went for consensual sex, and just oral - that was their main defense. They rejected that entirely. The prosecution never presented to suggest he killed either her nor him, nor anything to suggest this guy was responsible for his death. The verdict reflected that.

The penalty - I sure know what you mean about wanting the DP for everyone - it is an outrageous crime, just the worst of the worst, and to wipe off of humanity this stain, I sure understand that. But as a jury - you've got to look to what each person really did - what they knew about, what they did, what they encouraged.
Thanks Details for this post. However, I can't for the life of me think like a juror in this case. I want to be ahead of Channon's father in a room _____. Enough posted.

[Mandysmom]

Four more interview segments have been posted. The last two are with the Newsoms.

Thank you wnb. I'm going to listen in a few minutes.

:mad:

[Motomom]

Can anyone help link me to that radio show for the Gary and deena interview? I listened to the first 15 minutes but cannot find the rest of the show anywhere. If anyone can help TIA

[wnb]

Can anyone help link me to that radio show for the Gary and deena interview? I listened to the first 15 minutes but cannot find the rest of the show anywhere. If anyone can help TIA

They seem to have taken the other segments down.

[aubrey04]

If the facts presented at his trial are the same ones presented at Cobbin's trial - that is, there isn't some surprised piece that makes it appear Davidson isn't a ringleader, I believe fully he'll get the DP.

I think what saved Cobbins from the death penalty was his own testimony - it came out - to me - loud and clear that he's a weak follower. His whole persona is weak.

Davidson doesn't come off that way.

And I really hope Eric Boyd is charged with the greater crimes that he committed.

I am sorry but are you kidding me? Cobbins', who had previous arrests for attempted carjacking while in New York when he was nowhere near Lemarcus, was left alone with Channon and rather than get her to safety and/or call police... he used the time to orally rape her and he was so excited he was able to ejaculate and leave his sperm in her mouth and on her clothing.

This man was an active participant in this crime.. he plead guilty to rape, so he's an admitted rapist.. I don't know how someone could deduce him as being just a follower when he voilently raped her?!? (especially since it was so bad that her gum flap was seperated from her mouth)..

Whose DNA do you think they were trying to get rid of when they poured the "cleaning agents" down her throat to get rid of the DNA that was in her mouth?

I agree that Davidson was most likely the ringleader, but Cobbins was a criminal before this crime and he definitely played a big part in the rape/torture of Channon.

Coleman MIGHT be considered a "follower" but even then it is iffy since this crime went on for HOURS and she had plenty of time to flee and call police. Sorry, but I just don't buy into the "follower" excuse when people are being raped for hours, tortured and murdered.. This crime is WAY too heinous and lasted WAY too long for that excuse to fly.

imo

[aubrey04]

What do you think saved him from the death penalty? Something did.

IMO, I think what saved him from the DP was the jury he got. I have doubts they were honest in their questionaire/jury voir dire about whether they would be willing to hand down the death penalty. That's where I think he lucked out -- the jury that was selected.

I find his actions in this rape, torture and murder far more heinous than 95% of the cases I have read about or trials where the defendant got the DP... and I am talking about just his role in this debauchery.. it is far more egregious than many of the crimes of DR inmates living on death row today.

IMO.

[anais2005]

I think the jury from there verdicts signalled that they did not believe Cobbins was a full participant in these crimes,

so the DP was never going to be rendered by them once they decided it was not proved he killed Chris, just that they believed he facilitated his murder

imo the pros dropped the ball, the cross of Cobbins was very poor, the cross during the DP phase of all his crying relatives was very very poor, in the King trial which followed this the pros in that case was quite happy to challenge the relatives who came forth to try to save him, he went after them and made the jury see that families will do all they can to save a loved one,

I am hoping that the pros picks it up a bit in the next trial,

[aubrey04]

I think the jury from there verdicts signalled that they did not believe Cobbins was a full participant in these crimes,

so the DP was never going to be rendered by them once they decided it was not proved he killed Chris, just that they believed he facilitated his murder

imo the pros dropped the ball, the cross of Cobbins was very poor, the cross during the DP phase of all his crying relatives was very very poor, in the King trial which followed this the pros in that case was quite happy to challenge the relatives who came forth to try to save him, he went after them and made the jury see that families will do all they can to save a loved one,

I am hoping that the pros picks it up a bit in the next trial,

Yeah, I agree that the DA's could have really hamm.ered it more. I think Fitzgerald did a good job at times, but she could have done SO much more with all the material she had!

Honestly, I remember Fitzgerald in the trial of Eric McLean and she was pretty weak during that trial too. McLean was charged with first degree murder and was only convicted of the lesser charge of reckless homicide. He was only sentenced to 47 days in jail.

They're really going to have to revamp their style if they expect to get Thomas and Coleman sentenced to death.. imo.

I still think the case against Cobbins was iron-clad though. Just based on the evidence (especially DNA evidence), Cobbins own statements and his own testimony. He should be sitting on DR. imo..

[DeeN]

Everybody interested in this case should hear this interview.

This actually should be posted on the LINKS thread for this case.

I googled it, but I have to sign up to hear it? Plus when I went to the webpage of the interviewer I did not see it.

Thanks In Advance

[kellann62]

Sorry about that.

Kel

[Details]

Davidson knows if he has a black majority jury he will never get the DP. We already saw that in the Cobbins trial and we will see it again in all the rest of these trails. None are going to get the DP.Why would you judge people, just based on the color of their skin, that way? What are you trying to say about black people? Come out and say it. barf

[Details]

What do you think saved him from the death penalty? Something did.I think it's simple. The prosecutor never put the gun in his hand - metaphorically speaking.


They never said that he killed either person. Party to it, able to stop it, present, disgusting vile rapist, torturer, captor, kidnapper - but not killer. I think that's what saved him - that they couldn't give the DP to someone they didn't think had actually killed someone.

I think the prosecution could have changed this - but as presented - he didn't kill anyone himself. Myself - I'd have pointed out the bleach, injuries, said any of those could have killed her, and he likely did this and that - whatever the evidence could support - then he would be a killer, even if what he did, by mere chance, failed to kill her - but without him doing something that could kill, I don't think they get the DP. The next guy - he's the killer. He'll get the DP.

[Dogmatic]

I think it's simple. The prosecutor never put the gun in his hand - metaphorically speaking.


They never said that he killed either person. Party to it, able to stop it, present, disgusting vile rapist, torturer, captor, kidnapper - but not killer. I think that's what saved him - that they couldn't give the DP to someone they didn't think had actually killed someone.

I think the prosecution could have changed this - but as presented - he didn't kill anyone himself. Myself - I'd have pointed out the bleach, injuries, said any of those could have killed her, and he likely did this and that - whatever the evidence could support - then he would be a killer, even if what he did, by mere chance, failed to kill her - but without him doing something that could kill, I don't think they get the DP. The next guy - he's the killer. He'll get the DP.

Ahhhh, but the next guy will point to Cobbins as the killer and so on. Everyone in that home facilitated the crimes.

These trials show exactly why gang or group crimes are so very dangerous. It's too easy for the perps to shift the focus onto other members of the group.

[kellann62]

I dont care what anyone says. This thug coming to trial will get the death penalty no doubt. I don't think any evidence withheld will make a bit of difference.

Kel

[anais2005]

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/16/judge-to-allow-testimony-on-gun-test/

judge shoots down defence motions to exclude evidence (the article punned before me)

[Mandysmom]

I think the jury from there verdicts signalled that they did not believe Cobbins was a full participant in these crimes,

so the DP was never going to be rendered by them once they decided it was not proved he killed Chris, just that they believed he facilitated his murder

imo the pros dropped the ball, the cross of Cobbins was very poor, the cross during the DP phase of all his crying relatives was very very poor, in the King trial which followed this the pros in that case was quite happy to challenge the relatives who came forth to try to save him, he went after them and made the jury see that families will do all they can to save a loved one,

I am hoping that the pros picks it up a bit in the next trial,
I have to disagree with you.

The jury found him guilty of Felony Murder. They could have gone with a lesser charge if they believed he wasn't guilty of the DP charge.

They failed in their duty to carry out the sentence that their own guilty verdict called for.

I am convinced that the baby pics of little Letalvis and his bunch of wailing and sobbing family members influenced their decision.

That makes me angry.

[kellann62]

I would have thought the anguish and anger of Channon's and Chris's families would have stayed with the jurors through the punishment phase. But out of sight out of mind as the jurors were not allowed to see happy pictures of them in their childhood. Those jurors had short term memory loss or something. I could not be swayed by cutesy photos of a kid in a bowtie after seeing photos of Channon and Chris brutalized. For goodness sake, how could anyone.

Kel:angry:

[kellann62]

I often wonder how these attorneys defending this scum can live with themselves. I worked at a law firm in Houston in the early 90's and one of our attorneys was chosen to defend a guy on death row on one of his numerous appeals. We were all appalled. He said he did not have a choice. I understand that. Eventually the guy fried. If anyone wants to know about that case, it was the Malibu Grand Prix Murders. Richard Wilkerson and 2 others went in and took the 4 young men that worked there into the bathroom and butchered them with knives. But gosh, Richard was borderline retarded so he couldnt have known what he was doing his attorneys said.But He had worked there and knew those he so brutally killed.

Kel

[FFLady]

I dont care what anyone says. This thug coming to trial will get the death penalty no doubt. I don't think any evidence withheld will make a bit of difference.

Kel

I'm sorta going that route too Kel.....I read where the jury won't hear about his "priors"....I have to believe Karma will catch him this time...he went to prison for a robbery/carjacking and had been released only 6 months before the Chipman torture..... :confused:

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=99050

[Mandysmom]

I'm sorta going that route too Kel.....I read where the jury won't hear about his "priors"....I have to believe Karma will catch him this time...he went to prison for a robbery/carjacking and had been released only 6 months before the Chipman torture..... :confused:

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=99050

Cobbins had done some carjacking of his own hadn't he? IIRC it was in NY but wasn't allowed to be before the jury either.

He wasn't a choir boy who just happened to get caught up in this.

I'll try and see if I can find a link about Cobbins.

[FFLady]

Oh my, what impressive resumes....:laugh: I think you're right MM, Rome did have a prior(s)...


Does anyone think Prosecution can or will convince Rome to testify?

[kellann62]

I know this is a little off the main topic of discussion as that is thug leader of the pack Davidson. But I wonder why Boyd had a federal trial for carjacking instead of going to trial for the rape and murder of Chris.

Kel

[Survivor]

i WAS JUST CHECKING UP ON THE STATUS OF dAVIDSONS TRIAL AND THIS LINK SAYS IT MAY NOT START UNTIL oCT 5TH NOW???....

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/09/prior-conviction-out-in-carjack-case/

....last sentence... Prosecutors said the revised schedule means testimony might not begin until Oct. 5.

[wnb]

I know this is a little off the main topic of discussion as that is thug leader of the pack Davidson. But I wonder why Boyd had a federal trial for carjacking instead of going to trial for the rape and murder of Chris.

Kel

There wasn't enough evidence placing Boyd in the Chipman house. For example, no DNA evidence linked Boyd to either victim. It is possible that he might yet be tried for the murders. At the time, accesory to carjacking was all that Boyd could be charged with.

If you followed the Cobbins trial, you will have noticed that Cobbins' attorney placed a lot of blame on Eric Boyd while trying to deflect it from his client. We will probably see Davidson's attorneys in the upcoming trial doing the same.

[anais2005]

well this delay is caused by the state, why did they feel the need to go back and re test some of the evidence after the Cobbins trial and verdicts,

maybe they got spooked by the verdicts and are a bit concerned about getting guilty verdicts on the remaining defendants,

Davidson should be easier to convict than Thomas or Coleman, as they have DNA to tie him to the victims,

as far as I know they have no forensic evidence against Thomas, and we have yet to hear if he made any admissions of his actions that night,

Colemans statements are all they appear to have against her, and in them she denies doing anything, bujt it could and will be argued she was involved in the continuing kidnapping,

from the article it appears the new tests were inconclusive in matching any DNA to one of the defendants or any other person, so the states case appears to still be the same

we shall see what the judge decides

[FFLady]

Here's a couple of tweets - looks promising!!! Way to rule Judge!

Defense wants keep media out of jury selection. Judge says no #cntrial
18 minutes ago from txt
Jury selection will start monday as planned, judge delays ruling on delay bid #cntrial
35 minutes ago from txt Defense objects, says can't cross examine her without own expert consult #cntrial
about 1 hour ago from txt Judge calling in TBI DNA examiner to testify #cntrial

:thumbsup:

[RayStar]

Can't he just be taken out back?

I was planning to drive down just to get a good look at this LD but I'm not sure I could control my anger and believe me I-75 is just full of traffic police.

I hope this trial proceeds. I'm also hoping that LD may take a plea if offered now and save the families from the pain of hearing all of the awfulness of the crimes. LD it is past time to MAN UP!

[Survivor]

Can't he just be taken out back?

I was planning to drive down just to get a good look at this LD but I'm not sure I could control my anger and believe me I-75 is just full of traffic police.

I hope this trial proceeds. I'm also hoping that LD may take a plea if offered now and save the families from the pain of hearing all of the awfulness of the crimes. LD it is past time to MAN UP!

Nope , can't see a plea at this stage of the game. LDavidson appears to be a very arrogant SOB, and I hope Justice knocks the smirk off his face.

:rose:The families

[RayStar]

Yes, I agree Survivor. I am pleased to that the trial is going on. There is no need to bring up priors IMO. This guy is so DONE.

[Details]

Priors are needed when there is doubt about who did it - there's not really that doubt here that needs to be addressed, and since his priors are carjacking, it could be an opening for his attorney to say, "Well - all his prior victims lived - that proves he didn't want to kill". They are not really very applicable to this crime - the crime here isn't the carjacking - it's torture, rape, kidnapping, murder.

I'm happy the priors are not in.

[kellann62]

So,
tomorrow is the start of jury selection for thug davidson right?

[R~O~S]

This is an interesting article stating that DNA from skin cells was found on some pieces of evidence - that they have not been able to match up.

Daphe Sutton & Davidson could not be ruled out as the sources of the DNA. I wonder if the DNA is an incomplete profile - that's why they're unable to rule Sutton & Davidson out.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/19/additional-dna-test-sought/

I would love it, if they could nail Sutton with this.. I really think she knows way more than she has let on.

Why would this even justify a delay? One piece of evidence was found in a borrowed car, the other two in the trash. Nobody has claimed either victim lived in a vacuum prior to their abduction and deaths.

You're going to find my skin cells in my mothers house, my sisters house, my workplace on my husbands clothes, my childrens clothes and on things at the grocery store. So what?

It doesn't put me in any of those places at any specific time & by way of transfer it could go from my husbands clothes or car to someplace I've never been in my life.

The only thing that matters is the evidence that does link LD to this crime, at the time of the crime.

Dirt Ball Defense move, IMO! :cursing:

[aubrey04]

Why would this even justify a delay? One piece of evidence was found in a borrowed car, the other two in the trash. Nobody has claimed either victim lived in a vacuum prior to their abduction and deaths.

You're going to find my skin cells in my mothers house, my sisters house, my workplace on my husbands clothes, my childrens clothes and on things at the grocery store. So what?

It doesn't put me in any of those places at any specific time & by way of transfer it could go from my husbands clothes or car to someplace I've never been in my life.

The only thing that matters is the evidence that does link LD to this crime, at the time of the crime.

Dirt Ball Defense move, IMO! :cursing:

Yes, you're correct. Skin cells are everywhere - anyone who came in contact with those articles could have their skin cells on them. Personally, I don't understand why it would delay Davidson's trial, since DNA from his sperm was found in Channon. It really has no bearing on Davidson's participation in this.

Plus, what I am gathering from the article is that it an incomplete profile (if Sutton and Davidson can NOT be ruled out as the donor), so it might not come back as a conclusive match to anyone.. ever.

Just another delay tactic. I really wish those samples could be matched up though and nail anyone else who hasn't been charged in this crime ~ if they were more involved, like a lot of people think.. (IE, Boyd and/or Sutton).

imo

[anais2005]

Yes, you're correct. Skin cells are everywhere - anyone who came in contact with those articles could have their skin cells on them. Personally, I don't understand why it would delay Davidson's trial, since DNA from his sperm was found in Channon. It really has no bearing on Davidson's participation in this.

Plus, what I am gathering from the article is that it an incomplete profile (if Sutton and Davidson can NOT be ruled out as the donor), so it might not come back as a conclusive match to anyone.. ever.

Just another delay tactic. I really wish those samples could be matched up though and nail anyone else who hasn't been charged in this crime ~ if they were more involved, like a lot of people think.. (IE, Boyd and/or Sutton).

imo

This evidence will have a huge impact on defence case, they are doing a Cobbins defence, I was there, I had sex with her, we shall see if he does the it was consensual, or if he admits to rape, but I did not kill either of them, my brother did it, Eric Boyd did it, Thomas, Coleman and the unknown DNA contributors did it

thus any evidence they have that points to others helps there defence,

I just hope the pros team do a bit better this time round,

[wnb]

The Knoxville News-Sentinel reporter is doing twitter updates. She reports that one of Davidson's attorneys while questioning a prospective juror said that his client "saw and knew stuff" during the torture slaying.

In his police interrogation, Davidson claimed that he went on his "dope selling run" after seeing the girl brought to the house. It appears the defense is going to resemble the one Cobbins' attorney used.

This is what having separate trials for each suspect brings.

[anais2005]

The Knoxville News-Sentinel reporter is doing twitter updates. She reports that one of Davidson's attorneys while questioning a prospective juror said that his client "saw and knew stuff" during the torture slaying.

In his police interrogation, Davidson claimed that he went on his "dope selling run" after seeing the girl brought to the house. It appears the defense is going to resemble the one Cobbins' attorney used.

This is what having separate trials for each suspect brings.

they would do the same if there were joint trials, and the defence attys would have a fine old time pointing to the other defendants and saying he did it or she did it, but my client here is innocent

it was always going to be defences of my guy did some of it, but the real bad stuff was done by those other dudes

all the defence is doing is trying to get there client verdicts that do not mean they were the instigator or the actual murderer to try to stop the DP,

Cobbins attys succeeded it may give this defence team some hope that if they can point the finger at the others he too will not get DP

imo he is the only one of the remaining defendant the pros has any chance of DP,

[RayStar]

Judge Baumgartner denies defense motions to dismiss fingerprint, ballistics evidence.

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=99591&catid=2
Thanks for the post RR. The article states the judge may limit time for the atttorneys to question the future jurors and I hope he does. This bad guy does not realize that he is being tried before a judge who knows just about everything involved in this case. I mean can't the judge overturn a jury's decision in TN?

[aubrey04]

This evidence will have a huge impact on defence case, they are doing a Cobbins defence, I was there, I had sex with her, we shall see if he does the it was consensual, or if he admits to rape, but I did not kill either of them, my brother did it, Eric Boyd did it, Thomas, Coleman and the unknown DNA contributors did it

thus any evidence they have that points to others helps there defence,

I just hope the pros team do a bit better this time round,

Personally I doubt much will help Davidson. Heck, Cobbins was convicted of most of the charges against him.. yes, that ploy did help him avoid death row, but he still will never see the light of day outside the prison walls.

Davidson will have a much harder road to haul, if he is going for the same defense as Cobbins. Davidson's DNA proves that he was the one who raped Channon vaginally & anally. Only his DNA was found in those regions.. I don't see how they could say it was consensual after the descriptions of how badly these regions were battered.

It will be interesting to see how the defense will try to explain away Channon's injuries to the areas where Davidson's (and ONLY Davidson) sperm/DNA was found.

imo

[kellann62]

I am beginning to feel better about the judge this go around. He seemed to walk on eggshells where the defendant was concerned in the previous trial. Now I just wish there was a stronger team for the prosecution. I am keeping up with Jamie Satterfield on Twitter and she is giving a little info about each juror as they are questioned. One juror had been kidnapped along with his girlfriend in the 1980's and he was beaten and she was raped. Judge dismissed him.

Kel

[anais2005]

posted a link in the links thread to story on Knox news site where it has been revealed that an analysts DNA was found on an item of evidence,

the defence will use this to hammer contamination, this imo is very sloppy practice,

defence is still analysing the new DNA the pros has had done and it still may delay the trial, why they could not leave any retesting until all the other charged defendants have been tried I do no know

Boyd can wait, no statute of limitation on murder, so if they are testing the evidence to go after him they should not do is whilst it can delay or affect the trials that are to come

me, I think the Cobbins verdicts and LWOP has shaken the pros and they were trying to get more/better evidence against Thomas and Coleman, and now they are in a real pickle,

and appear top be handing the defence issues that can be raised to challenge the evidence they already had

[grammaw]

posted a link in the links thread to story on Knox news site where it has been revealed that an analysts DNA was found on an item of evidence,

the defence will use this to hammer contamination, this imo is very sloppy practice,

defence is still analysing the new DNA the pros has had done and it still may delay the trial, why they could not leave any retesting until all the other charged defendants have been tried I do no know

Boyd can wait, no statute of limitation on murder, so if they are testing the evidence to go after him they should not do is whilst it can delay or affect the trials that are to come

me, I think the Cobbins verdicts and LWOP has shaken the pros and they were trying to get more/better evidence against Thomas and Coleman, and now they are in a real pickle,

and appear top be handing the defence issues that can be raised to challenge the evidence they already had

In my opinion,this DNA mistake could have come from "dropping" skin cells from her or hisself while testing,after all the things on dna from this forum alone,this happens,BUT,the major question was this tester part of this murderous group,or at that crime scene watching and cooking(like Vanessa)while this girl(Christian)was being raped,suffocated for a day,tried to break her neck first,pouring bleach(or God knows what else)down her throat?I think not!The Pros did an excellant job in Cobbins case,but the jury didn't go by the law,feeling sorry for him!Yuk!I say bring on the evidence and let it fall where it may!No contamination at all,it's Marcus DNA that counts!

[wnb]

The defense had been hoping the DNA match was from some mysterious person at the crime scene. This would supposedly take some blame from Davidson.

Instead it was a TBI tester who inadverdantly put their DNA on the material being tested. This happens sometimes as the TBI explained in a statement. It doesn't help Davidson at all. His DNA and fingerprints are still all over the crime.

[Details]

DNA drops from everywhere - some skin cells, an eyelash, etc. And it in no way invalidates test results showing the 'suspect's' DNA there.

[anais2005]

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/25/tbi-defends-lab-work-says-accidents-happen/

lab defends mistakes

[anais2005]

The defense had been hoping the DNA match was from some mysterious person at the crime scene. This would supposedly take some blame from Davidson.

Instead it was a TBI tester who inadverdantly put their DNA on the material being tested. This happens sometimes as the TBI explained in a statement. It doesn't help Davidson at all. His DNA and fingerprints are still all over the crime.

There ia also an unknown match on the cloth, I think it helps his case massively, as it does other cases who have had testing done at that lab,

any defence can argue sloppy work means all results may be called into question, they can argue that if the lab has bad practice how does anybody know if the evidence was handled and stored correctly, and they can argue that any DNA found on items in the lab got there due to sloppy lab practices

contamination is manna from heaven to a defence,

[wnb]

There ia also an unknown match on the cloth, I think it helps his case massively, as it does other cases who have had testing done at that lab,

any defence can argue sloppy work means all results may be called into question, they can argue that if the lab has bad practice how does anybody know if the evidence was handled and stored correctly, and they can argue that any DNA found on items in the lab got there due to sloppy lab practices

contamination is manna from heaven to a defence,

How did Channon Christian's body get in the garbage can in Davidson's house? How did Davidson's fingerprints get on the envelope in Channon Christian's SUV and the garbage bags holding her body? Furthermore, why is Davidson's semen inside Channon's body?

Is common sense going to vanish in this trial?

[anais2005]

How did Channon Christian's body get in the garbage can in Davidson's house? How did Davidson's fingerprints get on the envelope in Channon Christian's SUV and the garbage bags holding her body? Furthermore, why is Davidson's semen inside Channon's body?

Is common sense going to vanish in this trial?

his DNA and fingerprints are the strongest peice of evidence they have, thus if the defence can throw some mud and it sticks at the lab for contaminating a piece of evidence then the strongest piece of evidence is suddenly not so strong, the defence is already going to bang on about fingerprint evidence being more art than science and thus it is not reliable, we shall see if the jury agree

the defence is going to be blaming most of the crime on Cobbins, Boyd, Coleman and Thomas, I bet they say Davidson was not in the house during the commision of the majority of the crime, and that he knew not what was done to them or there bodies during this time, we have yet to hear how he will explain away his DNA being present on both bodies, but contamination in the lab will be part of his explanation,

his prints found on items in her car need to be explained away, in order for him not to be seen as the leader of the gang, and the one who orchestrated the carjacking, the kidnapping, the rapes, torture and murders,

all the defence really are after is no DP, and anything they can do to diminish his role, to point the finger elsewhere even if it is at contamination in the lab they will do

they are hopoing that like Cobbins jury if they can get them to believe he was only a part of the crime, not the one doing the actual murders then no DP,

the defence imo must realise he will be convicted, it is what he is convicted of that is of concern to them,

[wnb]

his DNA and fingerprints are the strongest peice of evidence they have, thus if the defence can throw some mud and it sticks at the lab for contaminating a piece of evidence then the strongest piece of evidence is suddenly not so strong, the defence is already going to bang on about fingerprint evidence being more art than science and thus it is not reliable, we shall see if the jury agree

the defence is going to be blaming most of the crime on Cobbins, Boyd, Coleman and Thomas, I bet they say Davidson was not in the house during the commision of the majority of the crime, and that he knew not what was done to them or there bodies during this time, we have yet to hear how he will explain away his DNA being present on both bodies, but contamination in the lab will be part of his explanation,

his prints found on items in her car need to be explained away, in order for him not to be seen as the leader of the gang, and the one who orchestrated the carjacking, the kidnapping, the rapes, torture and murders,

all the defence really are after is no DP, and anything they can do to diminish his role, to point the finger elsewhere even if it is at contamination in the lab they will do

they are hopoing that like Cobbins jury if they can get them to believe he was only a part of the crime, not the one doing the actual murders then no DP,

the defence imo must realise he will be convicted, it is what he is convicted of that is of concern to them,

Yes, the penalty phase is going to be the key. Most of the questioning of the prospective jurors by Davidson's attorneys is geared to it. There may be jurors who will not want to give Davidson the death penalty if they can find any excuse.

As I wrote, it is a matter of common sense. Why was Davidson's DNA on Channon Christian's body and his fingerprints on the garbage bags if he was not "in the house?" How were the victims tortured and murdered if nobody in the house was responsible?

The prosecutors are going to have to make a more forceful presentation in the penalty phase than in the Cobbins trial.

[Details]

There ia also an unknown match on the cloth, I think it helps his case massively, as it does other cases who have had testing done at that lab,

any defence can argue sloppy work means all results may be called into question, they can argue that if the lab has bad practice how does anybody know if the evidence was handled and stored correctly, and they can argue that any DNA found on items in the lab got there due to sloppy lab practices

contamination is manna from heaven to a defence,An unknown match is meaningless, IMO. I've never seen a jury convinced by it. Nor by all the everpresent allegations of sloppy lab work - they try that every single time!

All an unknown match means is that sometime in the life of that cloth, it was handled by another person. Could be at the manufacturing plant. Could be a sweating salesperson restocking shelves. Could be a visitor some years ago. It's really nothing they'll be able to hang their hat on.

[aproudmom]

KNOXVILLE (WATE) -- The court held an additional round of jury selection at the Civic Coliseum Monday for the trial of LeMaricus Davidson, a defendant in the Christian - Newsom murders.

One hundred twenty-five people received a 24 page questionnaire to complete.

The court had this group go through the process in case the first jury pool fails to supply 15 jurors.

After turning in the questionnaires, the people were told whether they could be called back on September 21 for individual questioning. The clerk's office says most of the 125 were put on stand-by.

Testimony in the trial is expected to begin on October 5.
http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=11125433

[aproudmom]

Jury Selection Nearly Complete

FROM WATE:

Posted: Sep 25, 2009 7:13 AM
Updated: Sep 25, 2009 2:05 PM
By HANA KIM
6 News Reporter

KNOXVILLE (WATE) -- During Friday's individual questioning for the jury pool of LeMaricus Davidson, two men who made the cut said they know nothing about the Christian -Newsom murders, a shock for the court.

The state is seeking the death penalty in this trial and the other two remaining in this case.

Selection process as a whole

So far, Fifty-three people have made it to the next round on October 2.

The court hopes to have the final 15 member jury seated by next Friday.

The last individual questions will be done on Wednesday. The whole group returns Friday for group questioning.

The court agreed that the more than 60 standby jurors for next week aren't needed.

http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=11197831

[PerneciaJane]

Why would you judge people, just based on the color of their skin, that way? What are you trying to say about black people? Come out and say it. barf


I simply stated my opinion and I thought this was a forum for people to state their opinions. What I said is simply my opinion and I thought this country allowed me that right. :confused:

[anais2005]

Jury selection appears to be going slowly, the judge will decide tomorrow on the defence motion to delay the trial to enable them to do more DNA testing

[Details]

I simply stated my opinion and I thought this was a forum for people to state their opinions. What I said is simply my opinion and I thought this country allowed me that right. :confused:And I have the right to say what I think about your post, and the whole notion that you can judge an entire group of people merely by the color of their skin.

[kellann62]

The defense has had plenty of time to test evidence. On with the trial.
Hi ho Hi ho on to death row he goes!

Kel

[anais2005]

The defense has had plenty of time to test evidence. On with the trial.
Hi ho Hi ho on to death row he goes!

Kel

any delay will be down to the state, it is they who began new testing on evidence from Boyds car and Channons underwear, imo if they are determined to get Boyd then they should wait until they have prosecuted all the ones already charged, Boyd is not going anywhere, there is no statute of limitations on murder,

they should leave him alone until they have convicted the next 3, all they are doing is giving the defence more SODDI, or allowing the defence to do what they did with Cobbins, blame it on the others,

[wnb]

any delay will be down to the state, it is they who began new testing on evidence from Boyds car and Channons underwear, imo if they are determined to get Boyd then they should wait until they have prosecuted all the ones already charged, Boyd is not going anywhere, there is no statute of limitations on murder,

they should leave him alone until they have convicted the next 3, all they are doing is giving the defence more SODDI, or allowing the defence to do what they did with Cobbins, blame it on the others,

What will the defense say if this new test links the DNA to Davidson? That being said, the state should have either made this test over two years ago, or waited until the current trials are over.

[wnb]

The judge just delayed the trial for one week.

[anais2005]

Thanks for the update,

[anais2005]

From reporter twitter posts state is to give defence DNA samples taken form Boyd and witnesses for them to test against unknown DNA

wonder who the state tested the DNA against, I hope no match is made to any state witnesses such as Sutton, if so that will throw a huge spanner in the works, and will affect the Cobbins conviction

jury selection will continue whilst the testing is ongoing, so hopefully the jury will have been selected ready for the new trial date October 12th

[wnb]

My impression is that sperm was detected on Channon Christian's underwear, but it was overwhelmed by Christian's DNA so it could not be identified. This means that it could well belong to Davidson, as I posted earlier.

The prosecution should have seen to it that this test by what is called a Y-STR procedure was done long ago.

[anais2005]

My impression is that sperm was detected on Channon Christian's underwear, but it was overwhelmed by Christian's DNA so it could not be identified. This means that it could well belong to Davidson, as I posted earlier.

The prosecution should have seen to it that this test by what is called a Y-STR procedure was done long ago.

my bad, I never read what the DNA material actually was,

we shall see what the defence come up with, but there expert must have given them some idea that it will not be davidsons DNA as that will be another nail in his coffin,

if they think it could possibly be his then they would never ask for further testing, as now it stands as unknown DNA, if it is Davidsons then it is more evidence to show he is the leader of the gang and he is the most responsible

[anais2005]

71 prospective jurors in pool so far

[aubrey04]

The defense has had plenty of time to test evidence. On with the trial.
Hi ho Hi ho on to death row he goes!

Kel

Ita. It might be amusing to see people taking the defense side, if this crime wasn't so barbaric and savage.. and if the perps of the crime weren't so obvious, ESPECIALLY Davidson (and Cobbins)..

Other DNA evidence proves NOTHING. Davidson's DNA from his sperm was found inside Channons genitals and anus... The guy is COOKED. Stick a fork in him.. he's done.

The only thing he can hope for -- is finding a jury which obviously has reservations about the DP and fib on the questionaire about their stance... (like other juries we have seen).. IMO,... my very humble opinion.

He's garbage - they should take him out back as soon as his trial is over and get it over with.

IMO.. Joseph Duncan might be the worst human being to ever live, but Davidson isn't too far behind him.

It makes me sick to see people stick up for these barbaric animals.. What about Channon.. what about christopher? Where is the compassion for them? Unbelievable.

:cursing:

[kellann62]

That is so true about his dna already being found on Channon. It is just a waste of the taxpayers money in Tennessee. He deserves to die and die right away instead of sitting in prison with all his thug buddies. It just makes me sick to think he is sitting in the courtroom while those kids lay in the cold ground. All we can hope for is that there are guys in there that will make his life miserable. But he thrives in that environment and I shudder to think what he will do to the weak that can't fight back in there also. If I knew anyone in the prison he will no doubt get sent to, I would make sure his stay in there was a living hell with some big ole guys making him into their little girlfriend.

Kel

[anais2005]

on twitter, seems pros is now asking for a continuance of the trial due to scheduling issues with the ME,

the ME was fabulous in the Cobbins trial so whatever they have to do to accomodate her in order to enable her to testify in this trial they should do,

she was the best pros witness, she refused to allow the defence to move her from her firmly held opinions, and she explained herself very well,

[aubrey04]

That is so true about his dna already being found on Channon. It is just a waste of the taxpayers money in Tennessee. He deserves to die and die right away instead of sitting in prison with all his thug buddies. It just makes me sick to think he is sitting in the courtroom while those kids lay in the cold ground. All we can hope for is that there are guys in there that will make his life miserable. But he thrives in that environment and I shudder to think what he will do to the weak that can't fight back in there also. If I knew anyone in the prison he will no doubt get sent to, I would make sure his stay in there was a living hell with some big ole guys making him into their little girlfriend.

Kel

He will definitely thrive in prison, just like he did last time. He will be hooked back up with his old gang members and raising havok on the prison guards and.. like you said.. the weaker inmates. He must laugh to himself at the games he gets to play with the court system - it is a mockery. While Channon and Christopher's parents/family/friends do everything they can just to make it through each day.

Good people die each day.. Channon & Christopher, with so much promise, with so much to live for, with so many people who loved them, died so young.. at the hands of this monster. And he's still eating, breathing and mingling with his "homies".. This is the one case that really can get my blood pressure up, just like Joseph Duncan's crimes/games/trial did. It is cases like this -- which just smack you in the face and make you realize how unfair life truly is..

All my opinion..

[anais2005]

off twitter, ME scheduling may mean trial delayed one further week, means that Thomas may go to trial before Davidson,

I hope not, Davidson needs to go before anybody else, to ensure he gets convicted before his defence can try to shift more of the blame onto cobbins and Thomas

[Mandysmom]

Ita. It might be amusing to see people taking the defense side, if this crime wasn't so barbaric and savage.. and if the perps of the crime weren't so obvious, ESPECIALLY Davidson (and Cobbins)..

Other DNA evidence proves NOTHING. Davidson's DNA from his sperm was found inside Channons genitals and anus... The guy is COOKED. Stick a fork in him.. he's done.

The only thing he can hope for -- is finding a jury which obviously has reservations about the DP and fib on the questionaire about their stance... (like other juries we have seen).. IMO,... my very humble opinion.

He's garbage - they should take him out back as soon as his trial is over and get it over with.

IMO.. Joseph Duncan might be the worst human being to ever live, but Davidson isn't too far behind him.

It makes me sick to see people stick up for these barbaric animals.. What about Channon.. what about christopher? Where is the compassion for them? Unbelievable.

:cursing:
ITA! There have been some that I could muster up a bit of sympathy for, but there is none here.

These are monsters, sick, depraved monsters. They so deserve to die the same way that they doled out to Channon and Chris.

Some beings don't deserve to breathe, these are poster children for why the DP is still legal.

If they don't deserve it, nobody does.

:cursing:

[anais2005]

From twitter, all jurors questioned today have been bumped, showing just how hard it appears to be to get a Knox jury,

defence also complaining about black jurors being more likely to be bumped as black jurors appear less likely to agree with DP, thus would not be death qualified,

[Mandysmom]

That is so true about his dna already being found on Channon. It is just a waste of the taxpayers money in Tennessee. He deserves to die and die right away instead of sitting in prison with all his thug buddies. It just makes me sick to think he is sitting in the courtroom while those kids lay in the cold ground. All we can hope for is that there are guys in there that will make his life miserable. But he thrives in that environment and I shudder to think what he will do to the weak that can't fight back in there also. If I knew anyone in the prison he will no doubt get sent to, I would make sure his stay in there was a living hell with some big ole guys making him into their little girlfriend.

Kel

It blows me up also. I can't imagine what the families feel.

Channon's father said in the interview with the guy in Knoxville, that he had made a promise to Channon and when he was asked what it was, he said it was something between him, Channon and Deena.

The way he worded it made me think that there will never be any happy ending for any of these pieces of garbage.

I know that I would never be able to rest knowing the horrific hell that my child had been subjected to before her death.

He also said that the pictures of Channon were so horrible and that she had the look of absolute terror and horror on her face and it was forever etched into his memory.

That in itself would be reason enough to drive me insane.

:sad:

[anais2005]

From twitter Thomas lawyers have arrived at court, possibly to discuss any trial delays due to ME scheduling affecting the start date of Davidson trial, and maybe affecting the start date of Thomas trial

[anais2005]

Trial delay for davidson till October 19th

Thomas till December 1st, jury selection for him to be moved to Chattanooga, possibly starting Nov 18th

[Mandysmom]

Thanks for the updates, anais.

[anais2005]

Defence still filing and arguing motions, now want to exclude the video from the back of a cruiser of davidson after arrest,

and also wanting to exclude some more of the jurors

[kellann62]

I hope Mr. Christian has the strength to endure the wait. I hate to say it but I don't think I could live having to see the images he and Deena and Hugh and Mary Newsom had to see. Recently in our area a mother killed herself 2 years after her 2 small children had drowned in the family swimming pool.She could no longer live with the guilt. I know it has to be devastating for the rest of the family but in a situation such as this where something so awful has happened, I just dont think I would be able to shut it out of my head. I have such a hard time now with this horrific murder and do not personally know any involved but have grown to feel such love and compassion for the families and grown to feel so much hatred for the killers. I just wish that this was a done deal for all involved.

Kel

[anais2005]

Judge won't allow tape of Davidson in cruiser post arrest, he will also not allow defence there 10 more peremptory challenges they wanted to kick people off the jury

[kellann62]

Anais,
what was on the video of him in the back seat? Did he say something incriminating?

Kel

[anais2005]

Anais,
what was on the video of him in the back seat? Did he say something incriminating?

Kel

I think one of the questions was about when he was released from jail, one of the cops asked him, the judge said the tape was more prejudicial than probative unless davidson said he was assaulted by cops,

there would be nothing incriminating imo, he knows to keep his mouth shut, until he sees what the cops have, then he will concoct a story to try to wiggle out of the crime,

no wiggle room here, he won't get out of this one

[wnb]

Anais,
what was on the video of him in the back seat? Did he say something incriminating?

Kel

I have seen some of the video. It was shown by the Knoxville NBC station during a segment about the trial. Davidson looked like a remorseless gang-banger.

[Details]

He will definitely thrive in prison, just like he did last time. He will be hooked back up with his old gang members and raising havok on the prison guards and.. like you said.. the weaker inmates. He must laugh to himself at the games he gets to play with the court system - it is a mockery. While Channon and Christopher's parents/family/friends do everything they can just to make it through each day.

Good people die each day.. Channon & Christopher, with so much promise, with so much to live for, with so many people who loved them, died so young.. at the hands of this monster. And he's still eating, breathing and mingling with his "homies".. This is the one case that really can get my blood pressure up, just like Joseph Duncan's crimes/games/trial did. It is cases like this -- which just smack you in the face and make you realize how unfair life truly is..

All my opinion..And he'll get older and weaker in prison, and there's always a newer, tougher predator, and he'll be old and weak in a place that is not good to be old and weak.....

Good people die, and thugs pretend they enjoy that life - but they can never turn their back, never relax, never be happy - and as life goes on, it only gets worse for them.

Life ends up fair, by and large - just because of how people work. Channon and Christopher had more wonderful days, great times, love, friends, family, in their lives that were cut short, than these thugs will have if they live to be 100. I wouldn't trade places with them for a billion dollars.

[kellann62]

I hope you are right. I pray that Channon and Chris are someplace wonderful, beautiful and full of joy. I sometimes wonder why God doesnt just destroy the world because of all the evil that inhabits it. I know there is so much to be thankful for but I get overwhelmed by the bad.

Kel

[kellann62]

Details,
the thugs that did this will hopefully never spend another day in the bright sunshine, never walk on cool green grass with bare feet, never run on the beach and splash in the salty spray of the ocean. They will never go to a restaurant and order anything they please. No watching anything they want on tv anytime they want. No laughing on the front porch with family and friends. Channon and Chris will never do that again so it is only right they don't either. I know in the end they will get the punishment due them but I wish it would just happen sooner.

Kel

[Roux]

I looked at the photo in the link that proudmom posted. It makes me sick to see how they have him dressed up like some little harmless preppie college student. Wonder if he really needs those glasses or if they are another prop to try and fool the jury. Well they can dress him up all they want, but he's going to be convicted and hopefully get the DP. If anybody deserves it, he does.

[anais2005]

jury selected, 7 white females, 4 white males, 1 black male,

[Dogmatic]

I think one of the questions was about when he was released from jail, one of the cops asked him, the judge said the tape was more prejudicial than probative unless davidson said he was assaulted by cops,

there would be nothing incriminating imo, he knows to keep his mouth shut, until he sees what the cops have, then he will concoct a story to try to wiggle out of the crime,

no wiggle room here, he won't get out of this one

Oh I don't know. JMHO, Cobbins wiggled out of the death penalty conviction with his "she offered me sex" line and his baby pictures and family sob stories.

Right or wrong, it's my opinion that ANYONE that doesn't know for a fact that Cobbins forced himself on Channon and completely facilitated her death, does not belong in our civilized society. JMHO

We may see more of the same mentality on the Davidson jury

[Dogmatic]

jury selected, 7 white females, 4 white males, 1 black male,

I wonder which juror will fear for their families life at some point during the trial; enough that they are willing to do the wrong thing. Sorry to say it, sorry to think it, but it's the very reason Davidson wanted to be tried right at home. His street reputation has been hand built, by himself. It's based on threats, follow through, and violence. He and his ilk will reach out to this jury in one way or another. Count on it.

[anais2005]

Oh I don't know. JMHO, Cobbins wiggled out of the death penalty conviction with his "she offered me sex" line and his baby pictures and family sob stories.

Right or wrong, it's my opinion that ANYONE that doesn't know for a fact that Cobbins forced himself on Channon and completely facilitated her death, does not belong in our civilized society. JMHO

We may see more of the same mentality on the Davidson jury

I meant to wiggle room for a conviction, he may or may not get DP, but he will be convicted of enough charges that he never gets out of jail, and from what I can read from the snippets the defence has given out about there case during jury selection he too is going to play the wasn't me angle for all its worth, he is going to blame his free loading brother and his brothers buddies for what happened,

he appears to not even be willing to plead to the rapes even though there is DNA, can't wait to hear them explain that

but this defence team imo is ready for a fight, and I think they are more up for it than Cobbins atty, I just hope the pros will be much more agressive this time, and just keep reminding the jury that no matter what the others did Davidson did just as much and more

they cannot allow the defence to keep pointing the finger away from there client,

[anais2005]

I wonder which juror will fear for their families life at some point during the trial; enough that they are willing to do the wrong thing. Sorry to say it, sorry to think it, but it's the very reason Davidson wanted to be tried right at home. His street reputation has been hand built, by himself. It's based on threats, follow through, and violence. He and his ilk will reach out to this jury in one way or another. Count on it.

they will be sequestered, and any phone calls monitored, so during trial they will be immune to any threats, if they are to be threatened it will have to be pre trial, and if it ever happens then they surely will tell the judge pre trial to get themselves excused before trial starts,

I have more concern with what they may read or see in the media pre trial that may affect there ability to sit as jurors

[Dogmatic]

I meant to wiggle room for a conviction, he may or may not get DP, but he will be convicted of enough charges that he never gets out of jail, and from what I can read from the snippets the defence has given out about there case during jury selection he too is going to play the wasn't me angle for all its worth, he is going to blame his free loading brother and his brothers buddies for what happened,

he appears to not even be willing to plead to the rapes even though there is DNA, can't wait to hear them explain that

but this defence team imo is ready for a fight, and I think they are more up for it than Cobbins atty, I just hope the pros will be much more agressive this time, and just keep reminding the jury that no matter what the others did Davidson did just as much and more

they cannot allow the defence to keep pointing the finger away from there client,

It worked for Cobbins. The jury failed to see that the cleaning solvent used on poor Channon and the burning of Chris HAD to have degraded alot of evidence. If this crew is not the worst of the worst, I honestly don't know who is.

Each trial will involve the dedendant pointing the finger at other people in the house and then relying on their lack of family and upbringing..............yawn..........

This is why gang members need to be eliminated. Anyone who thinks that having them behind bars keeps them from orchestrating crimes in society is very naive. Life without parole is like a party for them. It's not their first choice, but not a bad alternative.

[kellann62]

I think in this case if the thug buddies of Davidson start mouthing off or harassing someone there could very well be a backlash by groups that are sick and tired of the threats and fear they have felt. Knoxville is but one city in the US. This case is known and kept track of by people not just in that city.

Kel

[anais2005]

I hope we have a full jury pool when they return for the trial, and I am hoping that the new DNA tests do not throw up anymore suprises so that we can move forward and get the Davidson trial and the Thomas trial done this year,

they there is only Coleman and Boyd if ever he gets further charges

[kellann62]

My brother in law is in Knoxville for some consulting work and said that this weekend CNN had mentioned the make up of the jury and said that is the talk all over town. The fact that there are 11 white jurors and one black juror. Already much talk about how the defense planned this.

Kel

[anais2005]

My brother in law is in Knoxville for some consulting work and said that this weekend CNN had mentioned the make up of the jury and said that is the talk all over town. The fact that there are 11 white jurors and one black juror. Already much talk about how the defense planned this.

Kel

they chose to keep the jury in Knox so they can't argue about that, but the makeup of the jury sure will be an issue they will bang on about,

depends how many black jurors they chose to exclude with there 15 exclusions, that for now is not being released so we do not know which side excluded which juror,

[Roux]

My brother in law is in Knoxville for some consulting work and said that this weekend CNN had mentioned the make up of the jury and said that is the talk all over town. The fact that there are 11 white jurors and one black juror. Already much talk about how the defense planned this.

Kel

Hi Kel, apparently the black juror, a female, said she felt she just couldn't handle it emotionally and Baumgartner reluctantly excused her. At least that's what I thought I read on anais's link.

[anais2005]

Hi Kel, apparently the black juror, a female, said she felt she just couldn't handle it emotionally and Baumgartner reluctantly excused her. At least that's what I thought I read on anais's link.

there is one black male who remains on the jury as of now,

[Roux]

there is one black male who remains on the jury as of now,

thanks, guess I had the timeframe confused and thought the 1 black juror excused was the one in the final selection. It's good that there is still at least one black juror.

I am so ready for this trial to start.

[kellann62]

I am too Roux.

Kel

[wnb]

This is a pretty normal jury for Knox County because of demographics. Knox County is 87% white and 9% black. Eric Boyd's federal carjacking trial in 2008 also had one black juror. The fact remains that Davidson and his attorneys insisted on a Knox County jury in the face of repeated efforts by the judge to change their minds.

[aubrey04]

I can't wait until the trial starts. I was hoping that Insessions would carry it, but they're juggling two trials right now.. One is about to end, then another is about to start in a few days.. not sure how long that will last for. Davidson's trial is scheduled for 10/19th... I guess there is a chance that Insessions will play it.

[dgfred]

I think maybe this case is a little too rough for daytime tv in their eyes.

[kellann62]

I watched Cobbins trial on my computer. The documentary that was done by Knox News about the case is short but really does a good job of telling the story of Channon and Chris.

Kel

[Staceylee]

when is this trial scheduled to start?

[Roux]

when is this trial scheduled to start?

October 19

[FFLady]

Anais,
what was on the video of him in the back seat? Did he say something incriminating?

Kel


He doesn't want the world and certainly NOT his crew to see his waterfall - didn't they say he was "crying" when arrested?

Mr. Davidson, here's to a speedy trial for you and in words you can understand ---> Rise Up, Foo.....

[Dogmatic]

:crying: That just kills me.

Me too. As bad as it was for Chris, Channon's death was longer and even more painful.

These five people are the worst of the worst, in my opinion.

[Dogmatic]

The documentary that was done on Channon and Chris by Knoxnews.com is extremely powerful.

Gary Christian's internal rage is vivid and heartbreaking. You can just tell by watching him speak that he constantly re-lives her final hours in his mind.

[kellann62]

I saw the same thing in the documentary. I won't even say what I am sure we are all thinking. Deena will go on for their son but Gary is in his own private hell due to the actions of worthless scum. I will release a balloon to the heavens when any one of these killers dies. And hopefully I will be able to do that 5 times.

Kel

[Dogmatic]

I saw the same thing in the documentary. I won't even say what I am sure we are all thinking. Deena will go on for their son but Gary is in his own private hell due to the actions of worthless scum. I will release a balloon to the heavens when any one of these killers dies. And hopefully I will be able to do that 5 times.

Kel

Agreed.
As disgusting as it may seem, if only one of the vermin would step forward and just tell exactly what happened, somehow I think that would offer the families a small amount of peace. Instead, even after torturing and murdering two people, they continue to lie, lie, lie. Being able to piece together the exact events of that horrible evening would put to rest the questions that must be thundering in their minds.

For instance, in the Christopher Barrios case, at least one of the perps stepped up and told the truth. He's still a filthy, disgusting pig, but in my opinion he's one step above the five perps in this case.

[Dogmatic]

One piece of information that I gathered was that it's only about a six minute drive from the Washington Ridge Apartments where the car-jacking took place, to the Chipman St residence.

This explains to me how it was possible for Channon to call her Dad at approximately 12:30 a.m. and the employee at the Waste Plant was able to see four men in Channons vehicle at the Chipman residence at around 12:35.

That always bothered me, but now it makes perfect sense.

[Details]

The documentary that was done on Channon and Chris by Knoxnews.com is extremely powerful.

Gary Christian's internal rage is vivid and heartbreaking. You can just tell by watching him speak that he constantly re-lives her final hours in his mind.I hope he can get past that, as the killers are sentenced, locked away forever. I know it'll be hard - but torturing himself does nothing for his daughter - she wouldn't want him to be that tormented.

[Dogmatic]

I hope he can get past that, as the killers are sentenced, locked away forever. I know it'll be hard - but torturing himself does nothing for his daughter - she wouldn't want him to be that tormented.

I'm guessing a portion of that rage that consumes him stems from the lies being told by the perps. It's my humble opinion that Gary C. would be overwhelmed with sadness and anger if the perps were telling the truth, but their lies are just a continuation of the torture they put Channon through. She is being victimized all over again, and so is Chris, and I believe that is what is causing his rage. JMHO

[ExArkie]

I saw the same thing in the documentary. I won't even say what I am sure we are all thinking. Deena will go on for their son but Gary is in his own private hell due to the actions of worthless scum. I will release a balloon to the heavens when any one of these killers dies. And hopefully I will be able to do that 5 times.

Kel

Every time I see a picture of this tormented man, my heart just breaks. I do not believe anyone could or can comfort him. It is just beyond sadness!! Sometimes there can be no happy endings.

[Dogmatic]

Here's my next prediction:

Since Letalvis blamed LeMaricus

LeMaricus will blame Vanessa for the beating of Channon and explain away the dna by claiming that he did not force her. He will blame Eric Boyd for the death of Chris, since Eric has already been tried.

George Thomas will state that he is a coward and was scared, but took no part in harming Chris or Channon.

Vanessa will come in last and probably give us more truth than we have seen to date, and will be given the lightest sentence.

What a circus. IMO they should have all been tried simultaneously in different courtrooms.

[wnb]

One piece of information that I gathered was that it's only about a six minute drive from the Washington Ridge Apartments where the car-jacking took place, to the Chipman St residence.

This explains to me how it was possible for Channon to call her Dad at approximately 12:30 a.m. and the employee at the Waste Plant was able to see four men in Channons vehicle at the Chipman residence at around 12:35.

That always bothered me, but now it makes perfect sense.

This has always been the only real mystery. The prosecution thought that Channon and Chris were abducted at about 10:30 PM, which means that a gun was pointed at Channon when she made the 12:30 AM call to her father. Why would the gang allow Channon to call her father?

At that time of night, you can go from one place to another fairly quickly. The Chipman St. house was 3.5 miles from the Washington Ridge Apartments. The Waste Plant employee may have been off in his time estimate.

[dgfred]

I believe they made her call so nobody would be out immediately looking for her.

[Dogmatic]

I believe they made her call so nobody would be out immediately looking for her.

That's always been my thought as well. I think she tried to send a red flag to her Dad by saying that they were getting some dinner and then watching a movie when her Dad knew that they were supposed to be at a birthday party for a friend.

But since her Dad was certain that there was nothing in her voice that seemed tense, I was looking for another way that it could have happened.

Channons car wasn't at Washington Ridge when the birthday party friends came looking for them around 11:00, so it's reasonable to assume that she and Chris were either eating dinner at that point or were already kidnapped.

It seems to me that Channon and Chris would have answered the calls from the birthday party crew if they were able to.

It also seemed relatively far fetched to think that the vermin could have kidnapped at 12:30, and then gunshots heard around 1:30. For everything that was done to poor Chris, I'm guessing it took them longer than that. But who knows.

[wnb]

That's always been my thought as well. I think she tried to send a red flag to her Dad by saying that they were getting some dinner and then watching a movie when her Dad knew that they were supposed to be at a birthday party for a friend.

But since her Dad was certain that there was nothing in her voice that seemed tense, I was looking for another way that it could have happened.

Channons car wasn't at Washington Ridge when the birthday party friends came looking for them around 11:00, so it's reasonable to assume that she and Chris were either eating dinner at that point or were already kidnapped.

It seems to me that Channon and Chris would have answered the calls from the birthday party crew if they were able to.

It also seemed relatively far fetched to think that the vermin could have kidnapped at 12:30, and then gunshots heard around 1:30. For everything that was done to poor Chris, I'm guessing it took them longer than that. But who knows.

I didn't know their friends came looking for them at 11:00 PM. The fact that they didn't answer calls would also indicate they had been abducted by that time.

[Dogmatic]

I didn't know their friends came looking for them at 11:00 PM. The fact that they didn't answer calls would also indicate they had been abducted by that time.

Best friend of Chris gave testimony that he came to the WA Ridge Apts between 11:00 and 11:30 pm in search of Channon and Chris because they weren't answering calls or texts. He saw Chris's truck but no sign of Channon's car.

This could mean they had already been kidnapped except Channon's best friend Kara testified that Channon was in tears on the phone at around 9:00 pm because she had been sitting alone waiting for Chris to show up and wished she had gone to the party with Kara. This testimony leads me to believe that maybe Channon and Chris needed some "alone" time to talk out what had happened and that maybe Channon was a little upset with Chris.
So just maybe, that's why they didn't respond to the text messages and phone calls.

Hard to say

[Dogmatic]

This has always been the only real mystery. The prosecution thought that Channon and Chris were abducted at about 10:30 PM, which means that a gun was pointed at Channon when she made the 12:30 AM call to her father. Why would the gang allow Channon to call her father?

At that time of night, you can go from one place to another fairly quickly. The Chipman St. house was 3.5 miles from the Washington Ridge Apartments. The Waste Plant employee may have been off in his time estimate.

I agree. They took a real chance letting Channon call her Dad, if that is indeed what happened. It could be that they held a gun to Chris's head and that forced Channon to remain very calm and composed.
She may have told them that her Dad was expecting her by 12:30 and would be out looking for her.

Not that it matters in the end result, but I've always wondered about that aspect of the crime.

[Dogmatic]

Ah geez. The additional dna testing on the sperm found on Channon's underwear does not match anyone in the case. It's does not belong to any of the defendants nor does it belong to Chris.

I always feared there were more people involved in this.

I'm guessing this will be used as a tool to deflect blame from Davidson. Defense looking for reasonable doubt.

Insane

[Details]

Ah geez. The additional dna testing on the sperm found on Channon's underwear does not match anyone in the case. It's does not belong to any of the defendants nor does it belong to Chris.

I always feared there were more people involved in this.

I'm guessing this will be used as a tool to deflect blame from Davidson. Defense looking for reasonable doubt.

InsaneIt'll be irrelevant. It might mean there's one more person who should be on trial - but it doesn't negate the responsibility of those already on trial now.

[Dogmatic]

It'll be irrelevant. It might mean there's one more person who should be on trial - but it doesn't negate the responsibility of those already on trial now.

It's just every defense lawyers dream, and I hate that. The underwear weren't even located on Channon when she was found "nude from the waste down".

IMO, there is somebody running around out there that needs to be arrested.

[wnb]

When the four suspects were arrested back in early 2007, everyone focused on them. The horrific nature of the crime made everyone hope that all of the guilty had been arrested, which was not a certainty. Was it the waste plant worker's testimony that indicated many people came to the house that night? The unknown DNA came from neighbors or unnamed friends who came to join the "fun."

The other DNA in no way exculpates Davidson and the others. His and Cobbins DNA was there. This is what happens when you have multiple suspects. They sometimes benefit at trial from the brutality of their crime.

[kellann62]

I feel sick over this new development. The families have been destroyed and now this new evidence adds another level to the horror their lives have become. God help them.

Kel

[iluvmua]

DNA from two unknown males have been found on Channon Christian's panties. :angry: (per WBIR.com)

I can't EVEN begin to fathom what this poor girl went through. :crying:

[wnb]

At the trial, or even the next hearing, the prosecution should say this to Davidson's attorneys:

"Since the new DNA test you requested showed two more suspects, have your client give us their names and we will arrest them."

[wnb]

DNA from two unknown males have been found on Channon Christian's panties. :angry: (per WBIR.com)

I can't EVEN begin to fathom what this poor girl went through. :crying:

Yes, all this really means is that Channon's death was even more horrible than previously thought.

[kellann62]

I know this has to be the worst news Gary and Deena could get. I hate those freaks and this just makes me want to cry.

Kel

[Dogmatic]

Does anyone know or has it been stated where on the underwear that the mixed sperm dna was located?

That makes a difference to me.

Also, was this the only unidentified sperm that was located on either victim or their clothing?

[wnb]

There is a much more important issue than the DNA. The defense has made a motion to dismiss the case after an alleged violation of attorney-client privilege.

It is alleged that a letter written by Davidson to his attorneys was interecepted by the Knox County Sherrif's department and given to the prosecution. If this is true, or there is not an explanation, the case against Davidson will be thrown out. If not by the trial judge, at appellate level.

I hope the claims by the defense are wrong, but if true, Davidson will be set free and given a police escort to Memphis. If this happens, it will be due to the sheer stupidity of the prosecution.

[Dogmatic]

There is a much more important issue than the DNA. The defense has made a motion to dismiss the case after an alleged violation of attorney-client privilege.

It is alleged that a letter written by Davidson to his attorneys was interecepted by the Knox County Sherrif's department and given to the prosecution. If this is true, or there is not an explanation, the case against Davidson will be thrown out. If not by the trial judge, at appellate level.

I hope the claims by the defense are wrong, but if true, Davidson will be set free and given a police escort to Memphis. If this happens, it will be due to the sheer stupidity of the prosecution.

I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation. This is just a last ditch effort by the defense to see that this doesn't go to trial. JMHO
If I'm wrong, and the Judge is forced to throw out all of the charges because of this oversight........well, that will be a very sad day.
In the meantime, it appears we have at least two other very violent criminals still walking our streets.

[wnb]

I'm sure there is a reasonable explanation. This is just a last ditch effort by the defense to see that this doesn't go to trial. JMHO
If I'm wrong, and the Judge is forced to throw out all of the charges because of this oversight........well, that will be a very sad day.
In the meantime, it appears we have at least two other very violent criminals still walking our streets.

Yes, there likely is an explanation. I certainly hope so. Defense attorneys blow a lot of smoke. They are having a hearing today. A report from WATE TV said that a motion to show photos of the victims during Davidson's sentencing was being discussed.

[Dogmatic]

Yes, there likely is an explanation. I certainly hope so. Defense attorneys blow a lot of smoke. They are having a hearing today. A report from WATE TV said that a motion to show photos of the victims during Davidson's sentencing was being discussed.

It could be something as simple as this:

DA tells Sheriffs office to forward copies on any of Davidson's outgoing mail, not meaning his mail to his Attorney.
The priviliged letter to the Attorney gets lumped in accidentally and the DA turns it back over.

I'm sure there is a protocol for confidential attorney/client letters and probably a special box they go in. Maybe Davidson put it in the wrong box? Who knows?

[Details]

There is a much more important issue than the DNA. The defense has made a motion to dismiss the case after an alleged violation of attorney-client privilege.

It is alleged that a letter written by Davidson to his attorneys was interecepted by the Knox County Sherrif's department and given to the prosecution. If this is true, or there is not an explanation, the case against Davidson will be thrown out. If not by the trial judge, at appellate level.

I hope the claims by the defense are wrong, but if true, Davidson will be set free and given a police escort to Memphis. If this happens, it will be due to the sheer stupidity of the prosecution.I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

That is not an error that rises to the level where charges would be dropped - the evidence remains the evidence, and it was properly collected. The prosecutor might be censured, or even dropped - but it's not an error that would make a case be dropped, because it has nothing to do with the evidence that lead to charges being filed.

[anais2005]

I just knew this new DNA testing was going to bite them in the butt, if they really did it to try to get more evidence against Boyd (which I doubt was the real reason) why do it now,

they have 3 suspects who need to be tried and convicted, as I have said before there is no statute of limitations on murder, Boyd could have waited,

now we have unknown DNA x 2, I dread to even imagine what the defence will alledge about this new evidence, plus the pain this inflicts on the families,

and then we have an allegation of breech of atty client privilidge, the families must despair at them ever becoming uninvolved in the criminal justice system, that it is just a never ending cycle of more bad news upon bad

it needs to be over, so they can breathe again, and begin to remember there kids as they were when they were alive

I don't know how much more Gary can take, he imo is visibly drowning in rage and hate,

[anais2005]

I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

That is not an error that rises to the level where charges would be dropped - the evidence remains the evidence, and it was properly collected. The prosecutor might be censured, or even dropped - but it's not an error that would make a case be dropped, because it has nothing to do with the evidence that lead to charges being filed.



if true the evidence does not matter, this allegation is about defence strategy, and if defence strategy is compromised by the state then a judge can drop the charges,

as Davidson can say he can never get a fair trial due to the advantage of the state knowing what the defence is going to argue pre trial

[HeadsOrTails]

There is a much more important issue than the DNA. The defense has made a motion to dismiss the case after an alleged violation of attorney-client privilege.

It is alleged that a letter written by Davidson to his attorneys was interecepted by the Knox County Sherrif's department and given to the prosecution. If this is true, or there is not an explanation, the case against Davidson will be thrown out. If not by the trial judge, at appellate level.

I hope the claims by the defense are wrong, but if true, Davidson will be set free and given a police escort to Memphis. If this happens, it will be due to the sheer stupidity of the prosecution.

You are exactly right. The case will most likely be thrown out if this is true. What a tragedy and a perfect, but horrible, example of a law enforcement agency being stupid beyond belief.

[HeadsOrTails]

I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

That is not an error that rises to the level where charges would be dropped - the evidence remains the evidence, and it was properly collected. The prosecutor might be censured, or even dropped - but it's not an error that would make a case be dropped, because it has nothing to do with the evidence that lead to charges being filed.

I hope you are right, but even if Judge B allows the case to go forward, it WILL be thrown out on appeal. His constitutional rights were violated no matter how badly it makes us feel or how angry we may be.

Page 5 of the defense motion says it was done at the direction of the DA's office. If so, it will be thrown out, either at the local level or on appeal.

[wnb]

I may have spoken a little too soon about Davidson getting the police escort to Memphis. The day after the murders, he stuck up a Pizza Hut. Davidson even admitted this during his police interrogation. The events at Chipman St. weren't enough for him. He could get a few years for that.

Armed robbery is one of Davidson's favorite ways to pass the time. He plea bargained to 9 years for an armed carjacking in Jackson TN in 2001, and was paroled five years later.

[anais2005]

Defence has filed motion under rule 412, which means they may be going to make allegations about Channons sexual partners as they have now found this unknown male DNA on her underwear

[iluvmua]

Defence has filed motion under rule 412, which means they may be going to make allegations about Channons sexual partners as they have now found this unknown male DNA on her underwear

that will not work esp. since Gary said that Channon was saving herself for marriage.

[anais2005]

that will not work esp. since Gary said that Channon was saving herself for marriage.

but he was her father so of course he will say she said this and she stuck to it,

we don't know if she was sexually active, and you can bet she never told her father if she was

depends on the way the defence presents its case, and how far they will go in explaining the two unknown DNA male samples from her underwear, from reading about it the pros are not alleging it was two more attackers DNA,

so the defence will use it to muddy the waters, and the state only has itself to blame for the further pain this is causing the families

[wnb]

but he was her father so of course he will say she said this and she stuck to it,

we don't know if she was sexually active, and you can bet she never told her father if she was

depends on the way the defence presents its case, and how far they will go in explaining the two unknown DNA male samples from her underwear, from reading about it the pros are not alleging it was two more attackers DNA,

so the defence will use it to muddy the waters, and the state only has itself to blame for the further pain this is causing the families

It is worth noting that Channon didn't have any DNA from her boyfriend. If she was sexually active, wouldn't DNA from Chris Newsom have been present?

[Dogmatic]

It is worth noting that Channon didn't have any DNA from her boyfriend. If she was sexually active, wouldn't DNA from Chris Newsom have been present?

Yes.

There's two sides to every story, and then there is the truth. When one side is forever silenced we tend to forget the murdered victims' side of the story.

Thus the reason the thugs murder them.

[Mandysmom]

I just knew this new DNA testing was going to bite them in the butt, if they really did it to try to get more evidence against Boyd (which I doubt was the real reason) why do it now,

they have 3 suspects who need to be tried and convicted, as I have said before there is no statute of limitations on murder, Boyd could have waited,

now we have unknown DNA x 2, I dread to even imagine what the defence will alledge about this new evidence, plus the pain this inflicts on the families,

and then we have an allegation of breech of atty client privilidge, the families must despair at them ever becoming uninvolved in the criminal justice system, that it is just a never ending cycle of more bad news upon bad

it needs to be over, so they can breathe again, and begin to remember there kids as they were when they were alive

I don't know how much more Gary can take, he imo is visibly drowning in rage and hate,
I doubt they will ever be able to remember their kids alive and happy anymore because the visions of their horrible deaths are forever burned into their brains.

Simply getting through the trials won't stop the nightmare. It will be over for us, but the familes' pain will be forever.

:sad:

[anais2005]

It is worth noting that Channon didn't have any DNA from her boyfriend. If she was sexually active, wouldn't DNA from Chris Newsom have been present?

I didn't say she was I said she may have been, and Chris DNA being found or not on that night also does not preclude her being sexually active,

and you can bet your bottom dollar the defence of all the remaining defendants are going to use this unknown DNA as part of there defences now

[Dogmatic]

I didn't say she was I said she may have been, and Chris DNA being found or not on that night also does not preclude her being sexually active,

and you can bet your bottom dollar the defence of all the remaining defendants are going to use this unknown DNA as part of there defences now

Yes. Sadly, they probably will.

Hopefully, the members of the jury will be clear enough thinkers to note that a person DOES NOT have to be a virgin to be a victim of rape, and clearly, what happened to Channon and Chris has NOTHING to do with sex and everything to do with violence, hate, and abuse of power.

[kellann62]

Dogmatic,
that is as true a statement as I have ever heard.

Kel

[aubrey04]

In response to the letter that was interceded by a sheriff's department employee & forwarded to the DA's office.. It really strikes me as ironic that this man, who NEVER played by the rules of society or the laws of his state/country, now gets to use laws to possibly get his trial dismissed and/or delayed.

I am not saying that even the biggest law-less creep shouldn't be afforded to the same rights, but it is ironic indeed.

It will be interesting to see how the Judge addresses this issue. The saddest part is that I bet the letter was NOTHING,especially if Davidson was the one writing it.. Leland Price admits to reading on page of it. Perhaps just have him step down from the case?

[aubrey04]

A deputy in the Sheriff's department admitted to copying the letter - he sent the letter to the "agency's Homeland Security department" and somehow it ended up being sent to the prosecutors office.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/oct/15/deputy-admits-he-copied-letter-alleged-ringleader-/

[FFLady]

In response to the letter that was interceded by a sheriff's department employee & forwarded to the DA's office.. It really strikes me as ironic that this man, who NEVER played by the rules of society or the laws of his state/country, now gets to use laws to possibly get his trial dismissed and/or delayed.

I am not saying that even the biggest law-less creep shouldn't be afforded to the same rights, but it is ironic indeed.

It will be interesting to see how the Judge addresses this issue. The saddest part is that I bet the letter was NOTHING,especially if Davidson was the one writing it.. Leland Price admits to reading on page of it. Perhaps just have him step down from the case?


Given the severity of this crime, and the overwhelming evidence of Slim's actions, I think this is a great solution!!!!! :thumbup:

[aubrey04]

Given the severity of this crime, and the overwhelming evidence of Slim's actions, I think this is a great solution!!!!! :thumbup:

I agree. He's not fit to live outside of prison,.. heck, I don't think he's fit to live INSIDE prison either.

I wish we knew a little more about what went down.. Like it has been reported that Leland Price admitted her read the first page.. but did he know what he was reading? You know what I mean.. like he might not have known the letter was from/to Davidson's lawyer until he read a little, then he stopped reading... so I don't necessarily believe that Price needs to be kicked off.. but if he DID in fact know what he was reading and peeked, then I do think he should resign from this trial.

Hopefully it won't postpone Davidson's trial any longer.. I don't know how much more Hugh&Mary Newsom and Deena & Gary Christian can take.

[Mandysmom]

A deputy in the Sheriff's department admitted to copying the letter - he sent the letter to the "agency's Homeland Security department" and somehow it ended up being sent to the prosecutors office.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/oct/15/deputy-admits-he-copied-letter-alleged-ringleader-/

I believe the DA when they say it has had no impact on the case. However, I don't know how this judge will rule. It seems he has been bending over backwards for the defense in this case.

I understand that the defense attornies have a job to do. Even with that knowledge and understanding, I can't for the life of me understand how they lie down and sleep at night in this case.

I have to trust that justice will be served one way or another.

:sad: God if I feel this sick, how must the Christian/Newsoms feel?

[aubrey04]

RE: unidentified DNA

They should enter that into CODIS and see if it comes back with any matches.. I really don't know what to make of that - it has me confused.. but I don't think it should interfer with Davidson's trial, as his DNA was found in Channon's vagina and anus.. and all over her clothing. (I hate to be graphic, but this case IS graphic and it's hard to talk about the evidence w/o being graphic :cursing: )

Anyway, I wonder if the DA's office have thought about entering it into the system to see if there are any matches..

[wnb]

I have been following KNS reporter Jamie Satterfield's Twitter updates from today's hearing. The judge has ruled that the breach of Davidson's letter was unintentional. The evidence shows that the DA's office didn't know it was legal mail. The judge said that there was no prejudice to the case. He refused to toss out the case or remove prosecutors.

[Dogmatic]

RE: unidentified DNA

They should enter that into CODIS and see if it comes back with any matches.. I really don't know what to make of that - it has me confused.. but I don't think it should interfer with Davidson's trial, as his DNA was found in Channon's vagina and anus.. and all over her clothing. (I hate to be graphic, but this case IS graphic and it's hard to talk about the evidence w/o being graphic :cursing: )

Anyway, I wonder if the DA's office have thought about entering it into the system to see if there are any matches..

I keep going back to the waste facility workers' testimony when he said that there were people coming and going from the Chipman house all night.

I think Channon became the focal point of a violent, disgusting, "party" that night, with multiple people taking part at one level or another.

Some of those slimeballs are still among us, unfortunately, imo.

[aubrey04]

I have been following KNS reporter Jamie Satterfield's Twitter updates from today's hearing. The judge has ruled that the breach of Davidson's letter was unintentional. The evidence shows that the DA's office didn't know it was legal mail. The judge said that there was no prejudice to the case. He refused to toss out the case or remove prosecutors.

Thanks for the update.. That is what I wondered -- whether Price really knew what it was before he started to read it. The Judge has been VERY fair to the defense (IMO, overly fair but that's another issue), so I will trust his judgment on this one.

[FFLady]

Thank you Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent news!!!!

[aubrey04]

I keep going back to the waste facility workers' testimony when he said that there were people coming and going from the Chipman house all night.

I think Channon became the focal point of a violent, disgusting, "party" that night, with multiple people taking part at one level or another.

Some of those slimeballs are still among us, unfortunately, imo.

Yes, it seems likely that others did participate in this orgy that night. Unfortunately the only ones who can give up the names of other perps, (if any), won't be spilling the beans..

I think the only way that investigators might connect others to the case is if they can find a match via CODIS.. Or perhaps have a nice, long talk with Vanessa Coleman's lawyers and see if a plea deal can be hashed out for her, if she gives up some names.. If I was Coleman's lawyer, I would be trying to strike a deal about now..

imo

[Mandysmom]

I have been following KNS reporter Jamie Satterfield's Twitter updates from today's hearing. The judge has ruled that the breach of Davidson's letter was unintentional. The evidence shows that the DA's office didn't know it was legal mail. The judge said that there was no prejudice to the case. He refused to toss out the case or remove prosecutors.

Thank you! I am so glad the judge ruled on this.

:thumbsup:

[Dogmatic]

Anybody besides me even more disgusted now that Mr Cobbins got by with LWOP?

Knowing now, that there were more perps there than originally thought just shows how dishonest these creeps have been all along. "She offered herself to me" Yeah right!

[Nascargal]

Hi everyone do we know is this trial going to start on schedule this time..TIA

[Nascargal]

I have no clue how anyone can defend these Monster even though it is their jobs...JMO

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/oct/16/fbi-investigating-death-threats-against-carjack-at/

[Dogmatic]

I have no clue how anyone can defend these Monster even though it is their jobs...JMO

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/oct/16/fbi-investigating-death-threats-against-carjack-at/

Because without people that have the courage to defend these creeps, these creeps would be back on our streets to torture and kill again.

We want them to get a fair defense.

Big HOWEVER, I have never felt that a fair defense involved a pack of lies and use of meaningless technicalities to free a guilty perp.

[Nascargal]

Because without people that have the courage to defend these creeps, these creeps would be back on our streets to torture and kill again.

We want them to get a fair defense.

Big HOWEVER, I have never felt that a fair defense involved a pack of lies and use of meaningless technicalities to free a guilty perp.

true just why my BIL could not do it and ended up on the other side Pros and now a Judge.

So do we know if this will start on time or have we heard

[aubrey04]

Because without people that have the courage to defend these creeps, these creeps would be back on our streets to torture and kill again.

We want them to get a fair defense.

Big HOWEVER, I have never felt that a fair defense involved a pack of lies and use of meaningless technicalities to free a guilty perp.

I hear ya. It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it and I usually don't hold it against the defense lawyers in cases, especially court-appointed defense lawyers.. I actually felt sorry for Rome's lawyer, Scott Green,.. he tried to get taken off the case, but the Judge wouldn't allow it.

But Davidson is a different breed... There is NO way I could defend Davidson... The fact that they're trying their best to get the charges dropped against Davidson is just inconceivable to me.. I can't imagine they would want him living next door to them - if the charges were dropped...

[Dogmatic]

I hear ya. It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it and I usually don't hold it against the defense lawyers in cases, especially court-appointed defense lawyers.. I actually felt sorry for Rome's lawyer, Scott Green,.. he tried to get taken off the case, but the Judge wouldn't allow it.

But Davidson is a different breed... There is NO way I could defend Davidson... The fact that they're trying their best to get the charges dropped against Davidson is just inconceivable to me.. I can't imagine they would want him living next door to them - if the charges were dropped...

He's not a different breed in my opinion. It just so happens that less of his dna was destroyed by the cleaning solvent.

If only Channon or Chris could speak, I am sure we would all become acutely aware how violent and horrible ALL of these people are and that all of them deserve the title "Ringleader".

[Details]

Because without people that have the courage to defend these creeps, these creeps would be back on our streets to torture and kill again.

We want them to get a fair defense.

Big HOWEVER, I have never felt that a fair defense involved a pack of lies and use of meaningless technicalities to free a guilty perp.Exactly. A proper defense is a REAL defense - any mitigating circumstances, any reason to think your client didn't do it, any procedural missteps that are serious - not a bunch of lies and misrepresentations designed to get your known guilty client off the hook.

[Dogmatic]

Exactly. A proper defense is a REAL defense - any mitigating circumstances, any reason to think your client didn't do it, any procedural missteps that are serious - not a bunch of lies and misrepresentations designed to get your known guilty client off the hook.

Ah yes. A REAL defense, imo, also does NOT inlcude throwing out unproven theories as reasonable doubt. In this particular case, should they try to insinuate that Channon was sexually active etc, I would find that deeply disturbing. This case is not about the rapes that took place. It's about the level of violence attached to those rapes and how the victims were forever silenced and treated as a common piece of trash and disposed of.

[wnb]

true just why my BIL could not do it and ended up on the other side Pros and now a Judge.

So do we know if this will start on time or have we heard

As of now, the trial starts on Monday October 19.

[anais2005]

As of now, the trial starts on Monday October 19.

thanks for the update, hopefully the defence will not be filing any other motions on Monday to postpone the trial further,

[aubrey04]

As of now, the trial starts on Monday October 19.

I wish that InSession would carry it.

Thanks for the info though.

I will be watching, if it does start on Monday.

[wnb]

I wish that InSession would carry it.

Thanks for the info though.

I will be watching, if it does start on Monday.

On Friday, Jamie Floyd said that on Monday InSession will start a trial in South Carolina. The Knoxville stations will live stream the trial as they did the previous one.

[aubrey04]

On Friday, Jamie Floyd said that on Monday InSession will start a trial in South Carolina. The Knoxville stations will live stream the trial as they did the previous one.

Oh darn it. That stinks.. I just wanted it played on InSessions so we could hear the comments from the hosts & perhaps InSessions could get some interviews with some of the people involved.. but I am just grateful that it will be livestreamed. I really didn't think any of the trials would be, so I am thankful for that.

Thank you so much for the info, wnb! It's much appreciated!

:wub:

[Nascargal]

As of now, the trial starts on Monday October 19.

Great do we know the link is it going to be live streaming like the last one

[Nascargal]

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/christian_newsom.aspx

Watch Live Coverage
When court is in session - Click here

[Nascargal]

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

I am guessing this is the link we watched last trial. Does anyone know what time opening statements start

[wnb]

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

I am guessing this is the link we watched last trial. Does anyone know what time opening statements start

Somewhere around 9 AM ET.

[SaraSidle]

Goodness..I guess I have to set an alarm to get up in time..Its my usual day off..just have to get up earlier..LOL..So I will get with the program as soon as visually focused...I guess, from the comments mentioned that Insession wont be covering it..Rats..I actually enjoy the banter...which helps me keep on track..So guess I have to rely on you guys..LOL

See ya in AM...Thanks for updated information!!

LMS:wub:

I wish they were covering it on TV

[Nascargal]

Not sure if we are going to open a thread for this trial but it is showing the courtroom

[Nascargal]

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

[jakee]

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

Good morning all and thank you for the link.

[aubrey04]

Good morning everyone - I made a separate thread for the trial. I know that CW likes us to split things up.. Makes it easier for her.

Here is the link to my thread:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13570801#post13570801

[Roux]

Good Morning everyone. Let's keep the families in our prayers. This one is probably going to be even worse than Cobbins, as far as painful testimony.

I just want to barf when I see how they have Davidson dressed up like some college preppie. Hope the jury can see past that charade.

[RayStar]

I got my tissue right beside me. I hope Gary can remain in his seat.