8/25

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Have Kristi and Doug ever met in person? What did they do on their dates? Is there anyone to bear witness to their dates?

Who did Kristi hang around with besides Melissa? Why haven't we heard about her activities? She was married 3 times, went to school, had a variety of jobs. And all we have is video from 93-94 and a few photos. Aside from 2 friendes, we only hear (ad nauseum) from an evanglist and his alleged daughter that may have known her 6 weeks. Why is no one stepping forward to fill in the details? DD should not and could not fill in 38 years, not that it will stop him from trying.

Melissa said on 8/17 NG show that she had not been in contact with authorities :confused: Why wouldn;t they interview Kristi's close friends?

[HALE 2d GNAW]

If gagirl is DD's daughter and is telling the truth (I realize we have no way to know) then she told us something important tonight. She said her dad was with someone when the abduction occured and he borrowed that person's phone to call Kristi's mom. That helps his alibi and gets rid of the "phone being in Atlanta but not the Man" theory.

I feel sorry for the guy. I sure hope he doesn't turn out to have anything to do with this. It's not the lost love thing but the umbrella of suspicion that makes me feel sorry for him. If she's not found, it will always hang over him with some people.

Like a bad penny....


If GBI verified cousin, so be it. LE didn't disclose this and neither did her daddy. IF it was true, I'd much rather hear what was actually said. We already know DD is innocent ;)

Who cares about DD's umbrella? Long as he is right with the man upstairs, he should be fine. IMO

Where is Kristi?

[n/t]

I honestly don't think Kristi could run away from her son, take everyone else out of the picture for a moment and just think of him...I don't think she could do it...Maybe I'm wrong, but I honestly think she was taken against her will, no doubt

You seem to know alot about Kristi but yet you never met her. I find that very interesting.

[n/t]

If gagirl is DD's daughter and is telling the truth (I realize we have no way to know) then she told us something important tonight. She said her dad was with someone when the abduction occured and he borrowed that person's phone to call Kristi's mom. That helps his alibi and gets rid of the "phone being in Atlanta but not the Man" theory.

I feel sorry for the guy. I sure hope he doesn't turn out to have anything to do with this. It's not the lost love thing but the umbrella of suspicion that makes me feel sorry for him. If she's not found, it will always hang over him with some people.

Perhaps she disclosed some of the details LE didn't want out there. I don't see why the conversation is secretive considering he called her back and shortly thereafter she was abducted. Gagirl made it sound like it was within minutes. What could they have been talking about that would be detrimental to the investigation?


Someone help me out with a timeline. What time did DD call Kristi? When was the actual abduction?

[ClimbingRose]

I thought it was brave of her to return.

She was a little scared of MR. Fate, lol (we know you're harmless Fate).

Made sense to me. Even admitted lying about the mutual friend just didn't want to call it that. Even the reason made sense and I don't think she'll make that mistake again. She's very young for this trauma (and probably didn't want to know that anyone would find fault with Daddy). Can't you remember being that young and trusting??

Now Doctor J I must respectfuly disagree with you. Honesty and truthfulness is part of a persons character, not age. While reading comments that related to her "Daddy" that she wasn't happy with or was unaware of perhaps she should have went to him to addressed her issues and got more information out of him.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Perhaps she disclosed some of the details LE didn't want out there. I don't see why the conversation is secretive considering he called her back and shortly thereafter she was abducted. Gagirl made it sound like it was within minutes. What could they have been talking about that would be detrimental to the investigation?


Someone help me out with a timeline. What time did DD call Kristi? When was the actual abduction?

I don't know if we have ever seen a complete timeline as to when Kristi started her walk, when she called DD (per GAgirl), etc. From last nights posts, GAgirl said that her dad was eating dinner and called Kristi back around 15 minutes later. I don't know that we know how long after they started talking the second time that the abduction occurred. Good point n/t - wish we had more facts.

[n/t]

I don't know if we have ever seen a complete timeline as to when Kristi started her walk, when she called DD (per GAgirl), etc. From last nights posts, GAgirl said that her dad was eating dinner and called Kristi back around 15 minutes later. I don't know that we know how long after they started talking the second time that the abduction occurred. Good point n/t - wish we had more facts.

For some reason 9:20 pm comes to mind. I'll have to go back and check. So DD was having dinner around that time, tells Kristi he'd call her back in 15 minutes and shortly thereafter she gets abducted.

This crazy, nosy person wants to know. For a religious person, gagirl doesn't lack insults does she? :laugh:

Off to work...will check in later.

[ClimbingRose]

I don't understand.

How do we know she said is true? How would get in the media except for Doug? Why can't Doug keep the story straight?

Why is gagirl saying he was on 911 on another phone while with Kristi on his line? I thought the family and the GBI told him not to reveal any details of the calls? But I am sure there will be a perfectly good reason why she was allowed to tell. No shortage of answers here.IMO Must be the gospel no pun intended.


I completely agree. A couple of posters who joined this forum have reacted/behaved quite strangely about issues that involved the bf which hopefully someone in LE has noted. Maybe it's nothing but maybe...Sometimes I will jump over to crime message boards that carried a case from the beginning to the conclusion when a suspect has been arrested. Very informative to follow particular posters and their reactions and behaviors who LE discover to be related to the crime being discussed.
Being a fairly new member here myself I have never felt unwelcome and enjoy posting and reading what many others have to offer therefor unwilling to give someone a free pass for being rude, condescending and accusatory.

[Cheri_G]

Perhaps she disclosed some of the details LE didn't want out there. I don't see why the conversation is secretive considering he called her back and shortly thereafter she was abducted. Gagirl made it sound like it was within minutes. What could they have been talking about that would be detrimental to the investigation?


Someone help me out with a timeline. What time did DD call Kristi? When was the actual abduction?

Hi n/t,

I don't think I've seen any articles that have reported exactly when the phone call took place.

It would be nice to have a better timeline. What time did Kristi leave the house for her walk? Some reports have said 9pm, but where did that time come from? Was it her parents? Were they home when she left? If they were they are likely the last people to have seen her before she was abducted.

What time did the call with Davis start? What time did it end? What time did Davis' call to Kristi's mom start and end? What time did the call to 911 come in? (Some reports say 9:20, but others say that is the time Davis heard the struggle).

I got the impression Kristi had walked the same route before. How long did it normally take her and does the site where they believe she was abducted match up with where she should have been (approximately) based on the time she left the house and the time Davis says they were on the phone and he was hearing her abduction.

Are there witnesses that can place Davis in Atlanta at the time of Kristi's abduction? Phone records only put his phone there not him which has had me wondering if the same phone was used to call Kristi's mom and I find it interesting that the poster claiming to be Davis' daughter is telling us a different phone was used. Where do phone records put that phone at the time of the abduction?

I know there's been reports that Kristi was wearing flip flops which seems an unusual choice for walking. Where/who did that information come from? The website the family set up does not say what she was last seen wearing. Do they know and if so, why hasn't that been released to the public?

[Hey Paula]

It's been reported that a white Suburban SUV was spotted in the area at the time Kristi disappeared. I wonder if such a vehicle was traded in a "Cash for Clunkers" deal? It would be a great way to inconspicuously dispose of the vehicle because it would have been wrecked/destroyed.

[bleu]

It's been reported that a white Suburban SUV was spotted in the area at the time Kristi disappeared. I wonder if such a vehicle was traded in a "Cash for Clunkers" deal? It would be a great way to inconspicuously dispose of the vehicle because it would have been wrecked/destroyed.

Not a bad thought, but if a "local," (of the character I've alluded to previously) doubt we're talking about someone, shall we say - qualified for a loan. A clunker in this area, is considered by a certain economic level, to be a luxury automobile.

[n/t]

Hi n/t,

I don't think I've seen any articles that have reported exactly when the phone call took place.

It would be nice to have a better timeline. What time did Kristi leave the house for her walk? Some reports have said 9pm, but where did that time come from? Was it her parents? Were they home when she left? If they were they are likely the last people to have seen her before she was abducted.

What time did the call with Davis start? What time did it end? What time did Davis' call to Kristi's mom start and end? What time did the call to 911 come in? (Some reports say 9:20, but others say that is the time Davis heard the struggle).

I got the impression Kristi had walked the same route before. How long did it normally take her and does the site where they believe she was abducted match up with where she should have been (approximately) based on the time she left the house and the time Davis says they were on the phone and he was hearing her abduction.

Are there witnesses that can place Davis in Atlanta at the time of Kristi's abduction? Phone records only put his phone there not him which has had me wondering if the same phone was used to call Kristi's mom and I find it interesting that the poster claiming to be Davis' daughter is telling us a different phone was used. Where do phone records put that phone at the time of the abduction?

I know there's been reports that Kristi was wearing flip flops which seems an unusual choice for walking. Where/who did that information come from? The website the family set up does not say what she was last seen wearing. Do they know and if so, why hasn't that been released to the public?


Hey Cheri,

LTNS! So many questions and yet nothing is being revealed to the public. WHY? I've never seen such lack of info by LE for an abduction case. Usually, they're out there giving any information to help find the person. Unless of course they have reason to believe this is a homicide and are keeping info close to their vests. That's the only logical explanation.

Remember the Haylee Donovan's case. I realize it was a child abduction but they gave out so much info on that case....as with many other too. Some even release surveillance videos.

In this case, they won't even say what the conversation was about. I don't see how that is even relevant but it seems to be a big secret.

[Hey Paula]

Not a bad thought, but if a "local," (of the character I've alluded to previously) doubt we're talking about someone, shall we say - qualified for a loan. A clunker in this area, is considered by a certain economic level, to be a luxury automobile.

I would imagine the cost to run/fuel an SUV is considerable, so I'm assuming it wasn't a financial burden for the owner to keep it.

Because this is a high profile case and apparently neither owners of the white Suburban-like SUV and the gold compact (such as a Nissan or Toyota) haven't come forward to explain their reason for being in the area when Kristi disappeared, I wonder if both vehicles were used? (E.g. usage transferred from one to the other).

IMO

[Cheri_G]

No. IIRC The searches were called off until they have leads that give them new places to search and the family has recently released home videos of Kristi in an effort to keep up awareness.

[bleu]

I would imagine the cost to run/fuel an SUV is considerable, so I'm assuming it wasn't a financial burden for the owner to keep it.

I'm following a "least to lose" profile, as opposed to capacity. There's no clarity that either vehicle was associated at the moment, leading to the question cars don't drive themselves. Would not an observed odd car in the area also follow to an observed driver and/or passenger?

[n/t]

FOX REPORTING A NEW VIDEO SHOWING KRISTI AND THAT THE SEARCH IS CALLED OFF....IS THIS NEW???? :w00t:
:confused:

While this link appears to be the latest on the website, I thought they claimed the new video showed her during this time she appears to be missing. Also noteworthy is the allegation they are searching the Kings Mountain area of NC now. Is any of this new?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,542000,00.html?test=latestnews

No it's not new and the search on the mountain turned up nothing.

[CANDYKISSES]

No. IIRC The searches were called off until they have leads that give them new places to search and the family has recently released home videos of Kristi in an effort to keep up awareness.

Thanks Cheri, I have searched and see bleu and a few others had another link up yesterday concerning this and can only say Fox had a misleading opening today, but they have said nothing else yet. :sad:

The video her family put out was days ago, correct? They made this sound like breaking news. :cursing: JMO

[n/t]

Cops searching in N after tip that Kristi's body can be found there.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,542000,00.html?test=latestnews

That's old news. They found nothing.

[openminded]

Check out Mary Brynes Smith. Preacher's wife with 2 kids. Ran off from Christian Women's Conference with nothing. Pawned her wedding ring and somehow got to New York. Not found till 4 months later.

Not to mention our local Runaway Bride. Of course, she was in an Atlanta suburb and getting out of Duluth might have been easier than in Kristi's case on a rural road in North Georgia. But it can be done if you are motivated enough.

Not that I'm convinced that Kristi would run but it is a possibility.

[Cheri_G]

Thanks Cheri, I have searched and see bleu and a few others had another link up yesterday concerning this and can only say Fox had a misleading opening today, but they have said nothing else yet. :sad:

The video her family put out was days ago, correct? They made this sound like breaking news. :cursing: JMO

The video was released around the same time the searches ended. The 19th or 20th I think.

[Hey Paula]

I'm following a "least to lose" profile, as opposed to capacity. There's no clarity that either vehicle was associated at the moment, leading to the question cars don't drive themselves. Would not an observed odd car in the area also follow to an observed driver and/or passenger?

I don't know where the info re those vehicles being seen in the area came from? Did Kristi describe them to DD? If not, I wonder if they were seen before or after the abduction?

If someone, other than Kristi, described the vehicles, how dark was it when Kristi was abducted? Perhaps it was too dark to adequately develop a composite sketch of the drivers?

[bleu]

Not to mention our local Runaway Bride. Of course, she was in an Atlanta suburb and getting out of Duluth might have been easier than in Kristi's case on a rural road in North Georgia. But it can be done if you are motivated enough.

Not that I'm convinced that Kristi would run but it is a possibility.

I'm not convinced she didn't... there are too many pressures at play, which makes it plausible.

[Leanne Weich]

That's old news. They found nothing.

Sorry about that. My DD told me she heard something on Fox so I searched and that appeared to be the latest news although DD told me there was a sighting of her. I just assumed DD had heard wrong.

[bleu]

I don't know where the info re those vehicles being seen in the area came from? Did Kristi describe them to DD? If not, I wonder if they were seen before or after the abduction?

If someone, other than Kristi, described the vehicles, how dark was it when Kristi was abducted? Perhaps it was too dark to adequately develop a composite sketch of the drivers?

Possible. I'd like to see video from every filling station in a 20 mile radius for 3 days before the 11th untill 3 days after, see if either vehicle was observed.

[ClimbingRose]

Do you think the Marshal's were brought in just b/c of where the tip said the body could be found or will they remain involved for reasons that we aren't privy to?

[doradoll]

Well Douglas said he was up on the mountains for DAYS not hours. But that is just his flowery speech. Prior to that:

Douglas said he was searching until AJC article came out that he was not there. gagirl said it was b/c he was with her in Blue Ridge for dinner so technically he wasn't there. He only said that so reporter wouldn't go to Kristi's house and bother them. Of course this is all before the media revealed to us who Douglas was.

bolding mine


When you travel into a mountain area, your are "in the mountains"...he was in the mountains for days, looking for Kristi and praying, per the statements your refer to.....do you take it to mean that he climbed from flat land to a peak and prayed for days?

[NoelsMommy]

<snipped to address this>

Jumping in here to address this and also a word of caution to all the newbies posting.

jiminmokena is correct to say it wouldn't be the first time a suspect posts on a MB. This happened right here when our board was still under ctv- the mother of seven who came up missing, Naomi Arnette(IL), and IRRC, posters actually helped LE due to exchanges in PMs, etc. with a poster that later was arrested for her murder. Her body was found by TES four months later.

For those new to this board- I hope all will exercise caution with sharing info and personal info in PMs, especially with other newly registered posters. Be wary of anyone with a recent registration date sending PMs and what may appear to be fishing for info.

LE and attorneys do read and have registered at MBs- same as those that are under suspicion by the law. However, every member has to abide by the TOS and what the mods have to say here.

It's wise to be careful on any internet posting site, whether a chat room or a board like this one.

imo

Okay, thanks for the heads up. Now I feel weird because I'm a newbie :laugh:

Haven't PM'd with anyone tho...

I'll hang around a while before doing that so as not to freak anyone out.

[just42day97]

Hello just42day97...Been lerking, very interesting revealations by gagirl.
She did say her dad was in Cobb County. DD's Church is on Mackland Road, which is in Cobb County, GA. 'Atlanta', which is where news reports DD's location, when Kristi's abduction occured is Fulton/Dekalb Counties.
Although I live in the North GA Mtns., I moved up from the Mackland Rd./Cobb County area and am very familiar with that area as well as Blairsville.
I attended the Merredith Hope Emerson Rembrance Walk at Meeks Park, Blairsville, GA, only 4 days after Kristi's abduction. Many of the Unhion & Fannin Co FD & LE searchers were there. They were visibly exausted and distraught. Two women vanish without a trace from their safe town..

Hello wolf....welcome to the board!

[n/t]

I don't know about whether or not she was working this summer?? I'm SCARED to even say this b/c Mr F4te scares me, BUT...

When my Daddy received the call and realized what was happening, he stayed on the line with her and used another cell phone of the person he was with to call 911...They wouldn't put him through to Union County...after arguing the seriousness of the matter with them and realizing he was getting nowhere, he immediately hung up the phone and called Kristi's mother...telling her to run outside and see if she saw anything as well as told her to call 911. She got in her car and rushed down the road while on the phone with 911.....now I hold my breath and wait for someone to explain to me why that's not what happened...

this is gagirl post #1367:
my thoughts:
1. gagirl is either fake or dd
2. i saw the words come out of dd mouth (today show) that he was talking on the phone w/ kristi and a car slowed down behind her...now gagirl wants to say that kristi called her dad when she (kristi) realized someone was following her! point: why did kristi call dd who was in atlanta instead of calling her mom who was right down the road?
3. gagirl said on yesterday that she was done posting! wonder why he started up again?
4. i smell a rat! and i hope LE does too!

I think you misunderstood her #2.

Kristi called DD but DD was having dinner and told her he'd call her back.

15 minutes later, DD called her back and that's when the abduction occurred.

[openminded]

I'm not convinced she didn't... there are too many pressures at play, which makes it plausible.

Hi, Fellow Atlantan!! It's a beautiful day in our neighborhood!

Hopefully, LE is seriously looking into the "running" thing.

[Hey Paula]

Exactly doctorJ, and me saying that everyone is suspect and stating the Michael Jackson case, that was right after Kristi's story broke two weeks ago. I now have more info that convinced me that D. Davis is not involved. If he was a suspect or a POI (by LE) they would not let him travel all across the country doing interviews because he could easily flee ... that cinched my belief that he is not involved whatsoever.

POIs have traveled/appeared on TV before. Drew Peterson has appeared numerous times.

During his wife's (Laci) disappearance, Scott Peterson traveled to Mexico for business.

[ClimbingRose]

I think you misunderstood her #2.

Kristi called DD but DD was having dinner and told her he'd call her back.

15 minutes later, DD called her back and that's when the abduction occurred.



I agree with the others, the posters who claim to know so much more than us and as Shakespear so eloquently stated...thou doth protest too much....is odd and suspicious and shouldn't be given a free pass.
But that's JMOSO

[ClimbingRose]

POIs have traveled/appeared on TV before. Drew Peterson has appeared numerous times.

During his wife's (Laci) disappearance, Scott Peterson traveled to Mexico for business.

Absolutely Correct!!!!! Declaring a person is not a suspect so early on in any case is unreasonable and could potentially harm a case.

[fins2thright]

If gagirl is DD's daughter and is telling the truth (I realize we have no way to know) then she told us something important tonight. She said her dad was with someone when the abduction occured and he borrowed that person's phone to call Kristi's mom. That helps his alibi and gets rid of the "phone being in Atlanta but not the Man" theory.

I feel sorry for the guy. I sure hope he doesn't turn out to have anything to do with this. It's not the lost love thing but the umbrella of suspicion that makes me feel sorry for him. If she's not found, it will always hang over him with some people.

I would be really curious to know more about the person that DD was with for dinner at 9:30pm in Atlanta. Was it a woman? What was their relationship? Just curious.

[Mr FATE]

She WAS OUTSIDE HER MOTHER'S HOUSE!!!!!! He would have had no idea if she was just walking up and down the street. I would have ALSO called the mother....so she could run outside and see if Kristi was in trouble 100 yards from her doorstep. He was also smart enough, it seems, to know that calling 911 from her home would be MUCH more effective.

Have you ever had to call 911 for another county? I have. Twice. They kept transferring me until they thought they had the right area. The first time they were wrong. It took more than 5 minutes, but it seemed like a lifetime. When I finally got the right 911 station, then they wanted to transfer me to the EMS portion. I was in a panic by then and had told my story several times.

He didn't know which way she turned out of the driveway. Maybe her mother did. Maybe she told her mother exactly where she was walking and for how far.

Calling 911 in Atlanta for a possible crime in Blaireville when the caller knew that her Mom was possibly only yards away would be STUPID, IMO. And then he would be picked to death again for making that decision and wasting precious moments.

Thanks for making yet another excuse why 911 shouldn't be called.

Presumably the new tip to AMW came from NC all the way to Los Angelos. That didn't stop anyone and GOT THE BALL ROLLING.

But thanks for explaining your naïveté ....

if the basic premise of calling 911 is not registering on you - I'm sorry, there's probably not much hope for you.

[n/t]

I would be really curious to know more about the person that DD was with for dinner at 9:30pm in Atlanta. Was it a woman? What was their relationship? Just curious.

Me too. I remember a cousin being mentioned but I could be wrong.

[Hey Paula]

Absolutely Correct!!!!! Declaring a person is not a suspect so early on in any case is unreasonable and could potentially harm a case.

LE now rarely labels anyone a suspect until they are about to be arrested. Even when referring to someone as a POI, they usually say they want to speak to that person for purposes of obtaining information to help solve the case.

I look upon coincidence, where crimes are involved, with suspicion, especially when a number of coincidences occur surrounding the same person.

[doradoll]

I will type it slowly

gagirl claims Melissa did not know about the injury. READ her post again
and she wasn't clear on WHAT was injured...just that she was injured.

Melissa did say "back" on 8/17

tonite gagirl makes post about "back" tonite and then adds that tailbone tidbit a few posts later. Seems gagirl does this about many details, which is fine.but don't come here preaching about how the crazies are out and lynch mob

Since he is so "clear" with LE she has nothing to worry about? She told us she was leaving. NOT. She told us to spend our time finding Kristi.

Maybe all the DADDY scrutiny would die down if she would quit fanning the flames and making changes.She told us she was leaving. NOT. She told us to spend our time finding Kristi. But it seems you think her changing stories are somehow helpful to finding Kristi. Good for you.

ok, this is what Melissa said to Nancy from the CNN transcripts:

MKIMSEY: "I`m not sure. She had taken a fall at her apartment, and she had briefly told me about it and said that, you know, she was in some pain. And I don`t know. I think it was her back."

I have pm'd gagirl and encouraged her to do her best to just not look at this site, as it obviously causes her to want to speak out for her father which causes some so much negative enjoyment. I hope that she follows my advice and we can just discuss the vague and differing reports in newspapers print, which some believe more than a family member that is hearing second hand from a witness.

[doradoll]

Thanks for making yet another excuse why 911 shouldn't be called.

Presumably the new tip to AMW came from NC all the way to Los Angelos. That didn't stop anyone and GOT THE BALL ROLLING.

But thanks for explaining your naïveté ....

if the basic premise of calling 911 is not registering on you - I'm sorry, there's probably not much hope for you.

Oh, boy. Please let me know where I said that 911 should not be called? I stated that it was best that he called the mother first, (who could run out to the road with her phone, calling 911 so that she could get the quickest help for her daughter.)

For all he knew, she could have been very close to the house. I think that it would be much faster for her mother to call 911 from her own house. He did the right thing. I have been in this situation myself and wished I would have called my brother, who lived nearest my mother, when I could tell she was having a stroke while I spoke with her on the phone. I experienced delays while everyone was desperately trying to figure out the correct agency to forward the 911 call.

I understand the basic premise of 911, I assure you. You may want to read my response again, as it did not encourage anyone not to call 911.

I don't see any reason for the name calling.

[Mr FATE]

Have Kristi and Doug ever met in person? What did they do on their dates? Is there anyone to bear witness to their dates?

Who did Kristi hang around with besides Melissa? Why haven't we heard about her activities? She was married 3 times, went to school, had a variety of jobs. And all we have is video from 93-94 and a few photos. Aside from 2 friendes, we only hear (ad nauseum) from an evanglist and his alleged daughter that may have known her 6 weeks. Why is no one stepping forward to fill in the details? DD should not and could not fill in 38 years, not that it will stop him from trying.

Melissa said on 8/17 NG show that she had not been in contact with authorities :confused: Why wouldn;t they interview Kristi's close friends?

According to Mr Davis on NG last night - he and Kristi walked the previous Saturday (I believe he said the same route) - so they have met.

[KittyMom]

How bout I give it a rest when a grown man calls 911 like a normal person does? Hmmm - let's say Mr Davis' daughter was abducted - how would he feel if the person on the phone didn't immediately call 911? and further more - in the old days people used to be upset there was no phone available to make a call to 911 - technology placed a phone directly in his hand and he still failed to grasp the concept.

what's 911 a new concept to people down south? I don't think so cause I lived there and I don't think it's for the privileged northerners only.

a 4 year old knows to call 911. IMMEDIATELY. Period

Congrats...you've made the iggy list. :patriot:

[C.Hound]

I am new to the group. I have been reading the posts about Kristi.
She is a friend of mine whom I've known about 2 1/2 years. I know that in the past year or so she married Richard Graham. The last time I spoke with her, they were facing divorce. During the time I've known her, she worked at Home Depot and then somewhere else. Kristi is a fine young lady. Please pray for her safe return.

I don't know if Kristi is currently employed, but this friend in post #77 (I think) indicated she had been working recently. That may explain why she wasn't in summer school.

[ClimbingRose]

LE now rarely labels anyone a suspect until they are about to be arrested. Even when referring to someone as a POI, they usually say they want to speak to that person for purposes of obtaining information to help solve the case.

I look upon coincidence, where crimes are involved, with suspicion, especially when a number of coincidences occur surrounding the same person.



Doesn't LE do this in order to gather evidence that otherwise would be prohibited if LE declared someone a POI or suspect? And the rules to the game changes if there is a POI?

[ClimbingRose]

Oh, boy. Please let me know where I said that 911 should not be called? I stated that it was best that he called the mother first, (who could run out to the road with her phone, calling 911 so that she could get the quickest help for her daughter.)

For all he knew, she could have been very close to the house. I think that it would be much faster for her mother to call 911 from her own house. He did the right thing. I have been in this situation myself and wished I would have called my brother, who lived nearest my mother, when I could tell she was having a stroke while I spoke with her on the phone. I experienced delays while everyone was desperately trying to figure out the correct agency to forward the 911 call.

I understand the basic premise of 911, I assure you. You may want to read my response again, as it did not encourage anyone not to call 911.

I don't see any reason for the name calling.


It's not about physically dialing 911. The question is why didn't he directly call 911 and give the dispatcher all of this critical information who had the capability to immediately dispatch with the local 911 who could have initiated the emergency response from the information he provided. He did know where she lived, He did know her cell phone, He did hear the abduction as it was taking place, He did have information regarding the location she was abducted from and He did have the contact information for Kristi's family. If he had accessed 911 during those few golden moments perhaps we wouldn't be here today discussing her abduction.

[ClimbingRose]

ok, this is what Melissa said to Nancy from the CNN transcripts:

MKIMSEY: "I`m not sure. She had taken a fall at her apartment, and she had briefly told me about it and said that, you know, she was in some pain. And I don`t know. I think it was her back."

I have pm'd gagirl and encouraged her to do her best to just not look at this site, as it obviously causes her to want to speak out for her father which causes some so much negative enjoyment. I hope that she follows my advice and we can just discuss the vague and differing reports in newspapers print, which some believe more than a family member that is hearing second hand from a witness.


Do you honestly believe that our purpose is for negative enjoyment? Vague and differing newspapers focus on the victim, the crime, information that could help locate this person which lends more credibility than someone who claims to be a family member, friend or witness.

[NoelsMommy]

I don't know if Kristi is currently employed, but this friend in post #77 (I think) indicated she had been working recently. That may explain why she wasn't in summer school.

I wonder if Kristi could have met someone at Home Depot (a previous job) that was stalking her and she didn't know it.

It's so scary to think that we go about our lives every day and never even think about all the people we come in contact with. We wouldn't give most people a 2nd thought unless they were acting weird or something.

[n/t]

Thank you CW for the separate forum for Kristi!! :thumbup:

[Hey Paula]

Doesn't LE do this in order to gather evidence that otherwise would be prohibited if LE declared someone a POI or suspect? And the rules to the game changes if there is a POI?

POIs are so named because they have a connection to the case, either through a connection to the victims or through witness/surveillance ID. They can have an attorney present when offering information and cannot be held for more than a few hours without evidence or charges being filed.

IMO

[doradoll]

It's not about physically dialing 911. The question is why didn't he directly call 911 and give the dispatcher all of this critical information who had the capability to immediately dispatch with the local 911 who could have initiated the emergency response from the information he provided. He did know where she lived, He did know her cell phone, He did hear the abduction as it was taking place, He did have information regarding the location she was abducted from and He did have the contact information for Kristi's family. If he had accessed 911 during those few golden moments perhaps we wouldn't be here today discussing her abduction.

How can I make this more clear. I knew my mother's address. I knew what county she lived in. When you call 911 from another part of the state they have to transfer you. He may have KNOWN that her mother was in the house, and called her and she called 911. I am sure it was quicker. IMO. I have been in this situation twice and the dispatchers were in the background discussing the best ways....incorporated areas vs unincorporated etc

Maybe I am leaving out too many verbs and adjectives and people are not understanding what I am saying. I am not saying in all situations that this would be a good idea, BUT if he knew she was in front of her mother's home, her mother was home and could quickly rush outside with her phone and call HER 911, he made the right decision. He may have hung up and called 911 himself after he quickly informed the mother what he knew. Maybe her mother could have gotten out there in time to see the car.

We are Monday morning quarterbacking this to death.

[Cheri_G]

I don't know where the info re those vehicles being seen in the area came from? Did Kristi describe them to DD? If not, I wonder if they were seen before or after the abduction?

If someone, other than Kristi, described the vehicles, how dark was it when Kristi was abducted? Perhaps it was too dark to adequately develop a composite sketch of the drivers?

I recall reading somewhere that the vehicle descriptions came from "reliable witnesses". I got the impression that two or more people who live in the area had seen them and didn't recognize them as belonging to anyone who lived there.

[NoelsMommy]

Bolded for emphasis by me:

Have Kristi and Doug ever met in person? What did they do on their dates? Is there anyone to bear witness to their dates?

Who did Kristi hang around with besides Melissa? Why haven't we heard about her activities? She was married 3 times, went to school, had a variety of jobs. And all we have is video from 93-94 and a few photos. Aside from 2 friendes, we only hear (ad nauseum) from an evanglist and his alleged daughter that may have known her 6 weeks. Why is no one stepping forward to fill in the details? DD should not and could not fill in 38 years, not that it will stop him from trying.

Melissa said on 8/17 NG show that she had not been in contact with authorities :confused: Why wouldn;t they interview Kristi's close friends?

Ditto to all you asked, Hale. Kristi apparently grew up in Blairsville from all I can gather. One would think there would be other people coming forward with things to say. :confused:

[doradoll]

Do you honestly believe that our purpose is for negative enjoyment? Vague and differing newspapers focus on the victim, the crime, information that could help locate this person which lends more credibility than someone who claims to be a family member, friend or witness.


this is not directed at you, but, yes, I think some people enjoy picking

bolding mine:

If you feel this is true, that the different versions we get from the media are more credible than someone close to the situation, than you may be relieved if she does not return.

I feel that she had credibility and is in a surreal situation that could happen to any of us. One of our family members could be close to a crime and be scrutinized closely. She is hurt by the suspicion of him. She is young and loves her Dad. She thinks she is basically being called a liar and doubted. (my opinion after a PM with her) I just encouraged her that this may not be the best place for her because it is obviously hurting her and not many are appreciating it, anyway.

Of course, this is a crime board and this is what is done. We toss around ideas and theories. I like that part of it. I am trying to keep myself in check, also. I worded a previous post in a way that I regret, and will be more careful in the future.

[Hey Paula]

I recall reading somewhere that the vehicle descriptions came from "reliable witnesses". I got the impression that two or more people who live in the area had seen them and didn't recognize them as belonging to anyone who lived there.

Thanks for your reply, Cheri.

That the vehicles weren't recognized as belonging to area residents is valuable info. It further solidifies my belief that if they were used in connection with Kristi's disappearance, this wasn't a crime of chance or convenience, but one which was planned.

On the other hand, if these vehicles weren't connected to Kristi's disappearance, I wonder why the drivers haven't contacted LE to explain their purpose for being in the area. This is a high profile case, so they should be aware that LE is on the lookout for these vehicles. The drivers might be able to help solve this case.

[Cheri_G]

How can I make this more clear. I knew my mother's address. I knew what county she lived in. When you call 911 from another part of the state they have to transfer you. He may have KNOWN that her mother was in the house, and called her and she called 911. I am sure it was quicker. IMO. I have been in this situation twice and the dispatchers were in the background discussing the best ways....incorporated areas vs unincorporated etc

Maybe I am leaving out too many verbs and adjectives and people are not understanding what I am saying. I am not saying in all situations that this would be a good idea, BUT if he knew she was in front of her mother's home, her mother was home and could quickly rush outside with her phone and call HER 911, he made the right decision. He may have hung up and called 911 himself after he quickly informed the mother what he knew. Maybe her mother could have gotten out there in time to see the car.

We are Monday morning quarterbacking this to death.

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding. What I'm reading is that in your situation, when you realized your mom was in trouble and it was an emergency your first reaction was to call 911 and get her help ASAP.

Because of your experience you feel Davis made the right move in calling Kristi's mom first and that in a similar situation you may have done the same because of the confusion and delays you'd experienced before.

There is no evidence that Davis has had a similar situation to yours that would have caused him to believe that his best course of action was to call Kristi's mom first.

If you believe a crime is being committed, do you call a family member to stop it or the police? In most cases the natural response is to call the police and I think that's why this particular issue has raised flags for so many people.

[C.Hound]

gagirl's explanation of the telephone conversation timeline between her father and Kristi is interesting yet, once again, contradicts published reports. The media has stated over and over again that D. Davis told LE he heard her screams and then the line went dead.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/17/earlyshow/main5246717.shtml

"She was talking to her boyfriend, Douglas Davis, who lives in Atlanta. That's when, police say, Kristi told Davis a car pulled up. Seconds later, police say, Davis heard a struggle on the line, then the line went dead."

This is the first time I've read that he stayed on the line with her while the abduction was taking place. Perhaps the media either misquoted their sources or were provided a vague story because LE doesn't want it known that D. Davis heard additional information...although I think it would be impossible to know for sure what was being said while having two phones to your ears listening on one line while talking on the other IMO.

[ish]

The thing I find strange in Davis' story (as told by the gagirl), this is a couple who have only known each other a few weeks, are madly in love, talking about marriage, yet when Kristi calls Doug to chat, he says he is busy eating dinner and will call her back. In my own experiences and observance of others in the bloom of a new love, a chance to chat is never lost or postponed, especially over something as trivial (IMO) as eating dinner. Most people in that flush of love, drop everything to speak to their partner. As a kid I remember my siblings and later myself, jumping to get the phone and leaving dinner to get cold. The parents eventually would say no calls during dinner, but if that phone rang and someone thought it was their "love" on the line, boom, "I'm done, may I be excused?" and off to the phone they go. I realize we are talking now of more mature people but still new love is new love and I just thought it odd. Any thoughts or comments?

[just42day97]

THanks CW for making Kristi a forum.....:thumbup:

[NoelsMommy]

The thing I find strange in Davis' story (as told by the gagirl), this is a couple who have only known each other a few weeks, are madly in love, talking about marriage, yet when Kristi calls Doug to chat, he says he is busy eating dinner and will call her back. In my own experiences and observance of others in the bloom of a new love, a chance to chat is never lost or postponed, especially over something as trivial (IMO) as eating dinner. Most people in that flush of love, drop everything to speak to their partner. As a kid I remember my siblings and later myself, jumping to get the phone and leaving dinner to get cold. The parents eventually would say no calls during dinner, but if that phone rang and someone thought it was their "love" on the line, boom, "I'm done, may I be excused?" and off to the phone they go. I realize we are talking now of more mature people but still new love is new love and I just thought it odd. Any thoughts or comments?

I guess I don't find this strange because they are not kids, they are 38 & 53 years of age. Maybe Doug was having dinner with a business acquantaince, hence the need to call her back. Just throwing that out there as a possible reason why he couldn't talk when she first called him.

[n/t]

I guess I don't find this strange because they are not kids, they are 38 & 53 years of age. Maybe Doug was having dinner with a business acquantaince, hence the need to call her back. Just throwing that out there as a possible reason why he couldn't talk when she first called him.

Right. According to gagirl, when the abduction happened, he used someone else's phone to call 911 so I'm assuming this other person was there with him for dinner.

[NoelsMommy]

Right. According to gagirl, when the abduction happened, he used someone else's phone to call 911 so I'm assuming this other person was there with him for dinner.

Ahhhh, that makes sense. Good recall n/t. I do remember gagirl posting that last night but had forgotten.

[Cheri_G]

Right. According to gagirl, when the abduction happened, he used someone else's phone to call 911 so I'm assuming this other person was there with him for dinner.

If its true...

Though I may have missed it, I've not seen any article stating that someone was with Davis at the time of the phone call. I would think that even if this person requested not to be identified, it would have atleast been mentioned by the media that someone was with Davis and that it was their phone that was used to contact Kristi's as gagirl has claimed.

There's also no confirmation at this point that Davis called 911 from any phone. I realize early reports said he called 911 right away, but there have been conflicting reports ever since.

I realize that LE wants to keep some info close to the vest but it would be nice if they could clear up who called who, from what phone, and when.

[C.Hound]

this is not directed at you, but, yes, I think some people enjoy picking

bolding mine:

If you feel this is true, that the different versions we get from the media are more credible than someone close to the situation, than you may be relieved if she does not return.

I feel that she had credibility and is in a surreal situation that could happen to any of us. One of our family members could be close to a crime and be scrutinized closely. She is hurt by the suspicion of him. She is young and loves her Dad. She thinks she is basically being called a liar and doubted. (my opinion after a PM with her) I just encouraged her that this may not be the best place for her because it is obviously hurting her and not many are appreciating it, anyway.

Of course, this is a crime board and this is what is done. We toss around ideas and theories. I like that part of it. I am trying to keep myself in check, also. I worded a previous post in a way that I regret, and will be more careful in the future.

I believe gagirl is truthfully providing the information she's been given, but she must remember she never met Kristi and the information she's sharing is second-hand from her father who is providing conflicting information in his interviews.

[AJandTam]

I guess I don't find this strange because they are not kids, they are 38 & 53 years of age. Maybe Doug was having dinner with a business acquantaince, hence the need to call her back. Just throwing that out there as a possible reason why he couldn't talk when she first called him.

I don't either. Lots of things could explain the call back. He was having a business dinner. He had family w/him that are nosey.. he had an upset family or friend w/him. He was in a noisy resturant. (I don't know yet where he was)... He could have been doing the pee pee dance and didn't want to take the phone into the bathroom w/him. Maybe he has sugar issues and needed to eat right then because of his sugar dropped. I don't know but doesn't mean anything IMHO. I don't think this guy is suspicious myself from what i've read.

It's the abduction itself that is bugging me..

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I don't know if Kristi is currently employed, but this friend in post #77 (I think) indicated she had been working recently. That may explain why she wasn't in summer school.

Casey Anthony worked at Sports Authority :lol:

I don't know if it is reliable info, but it could have been part time? Has it been confirmed she is divorced?

[n/t]

If its true...

Though I may have missed it, I've not seen any article stating that someone was with Davis at the time of the phone call. I would think that even if this person requested not to be identified, it would have atleast been mentioned by the media that someone was with Davis and that it was their phone that was used to contact Kristi's as gagirl has claimed.

There's also no confirmation at this point that Davis called 911 from any phone. I realize early reports said he called 911 right away, but there have been conflicting reports ever since.

I realize that LE wants to keep some info close to the vest but it would be nice if they could clear up who called who, from what phone, and when.


I don't know about the when but it was finally confirmed on Nancy Grace that Kristi was the one who called. I'll have to go back to find the link and discussion. I believe Rainy was the one who asked why it was such a big deal and then it was finally answered on NG the following day.

I agree....so many inconsistencies. I wish LE would give us an update on where they are with the investigation and confirm or deny some of these inconsistencies.

We'll see. Maybe they will sooner than we think.

[leema24]

Kind of old news but there was an article posted on 8/13 that had a comments section where someone said her husband saw Kristi walking with a man around 8:15pm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html (page 10 of comments section)

The person who made the comment described the the man: 6'2'' 250 lbs dark brown hair.

Has this been mentioned in any other reports? Just curious.

[NoelsMommy]

I don't know about the when but it was finally confirmed on Nancy Grace that Kristi was the one who called. I'll have to go back to find the link and discussion. I believe Rainy was the one who asked why it was such a big deal and then it was finally answered on NG the following day.

I agree....so many inconsistencies. I wish LE would give us an update on where they are with the investigation and confirm or deny some of these inconsistencies.

We'll see. Maybe they will sooner than we think.


That would differ from what gagirl posted here last night. She said Mr. Davis called Kristi back which would mean that he initiated the phone call that was in progress when the abduction happened.

Sure wish some of this was clearer. There just hasn't been enough questions asked of Mr. Davis or family when they've been interviewed, IMO.

[n/t]

I don't know about the when but it was finally confirmed on Nancy Grace that Kristi was the one who called. I'll have to go back to find the link and discussion. I believe Rainy was the one who asked why it was such a big deal and then it was finally answered on NG the following day.

I agree....so many inconsistencies. I wish LE would give us an update on where they are with the investigation and confirm or deny some of these inconsistencies.

We'll see. Maybe they will sooner than we think.

Quoting myself to correct my info. Here is Rainy's post #579 (I believe)

08-22-2009, 07:17 AM
RainyNiteNTx
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,522

Quote:
Originally Posted by n/t
I think so too, Rainy. It sounds like there was more to that conversation than the public was told. Why would it be a concern? What was said? Did she describe the car or persons? If that's the case, why wouldn't that be released to the public? Are they on someone's trail?

Was Kristi being stalked and she recognized this person? Doug knows more than what he's saying and perhaps rightfully so but I'm concerned it will bring more rumours and speculations. Doug himself said he couldn't discuss the phone call. WHY?

More and more, I think it's someone Kristi was reaching out to. I think she may have met this person online hence the father's comment about the internet. The ministry may be involved indirectly. It could be someone they both knew.

Just my opinion.

n/t I still go back to the issue that was made about the entire phone call. First it was that LE would not reveal who initiated the call. Then they finally confirmed that it was DD who initiated the call. Then we have the newslink below which stated that Cornwell's family discouraged DD from doing media interviews for fear he would jeopardize the case. They go on to say he had material information with the phone call and they were concerned that information would leak out.
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-120973.html

I'm also still interested in why the actual physical note cannot be shown on television. I would think just the opposite - that he could wave the note around, but would not be able to reveal the contents.

Hopefully soon Kristi will be found safe and this will all add up.

All JMO
__________________

[n/t]

Kind of old news but there was an article posted on 8/13 that had a comments section where someone said her husband saw Kristi walking with a man around 8:15pm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html (page 10 of comments section)

The person who made the comment described the the man: 6'2'' 250 lbs dark brown hair.

Has this been mentioned in any other reports? Just curious.


Not that I'm aware of. Interesting if true.

[JanJan]

I'm trying to research a timeline, but as has been said before, the reports are very confusing:

8/11: Abduction
8/12 True Crime reported that she was missing "since about half past 9 p.m."
The Missing Poster states that she was last seen at "9:15 - 9:20 p.m."
8/16: WXIA reported that "Tuesday night Cornwell went walking . . . around 9 p.m."

My guess is that she left the house around 9 p.m., perhaps a neighbor saw her around 9:15 - 9:20 p.m. (I agree that if she was walking for exercise, why would she have on flip-flops? Again, my guess is that she left the house so she could talk privately to DD and did not plan to walk very long.

Like others, I'm curious as to his dinner partner that night. Perhaps gagirl can enlighten us.

Also, I still would like to know if the "jealousy theory" has been exhausted.

[NoelsMommy]

I've been thinking about this case & have a few thoughts to ponder.

1. If Kristi's abductor realized she had a cell phone with her after he had her in the vehicle, wouldn't you think he'd become afraid that maybe she gave someone more information than she did (how would he know how much information she might have told prior to him/them grabbing her)?

2. Would that make him more likely to let her go or would it make him more likely to end her life? Considering she has already seen him by that point, and possibly knew who it was...

3. I wonder if when the phone was found (assuming that's what happened), whether Kristi confessed that she was on a call during the adbuction or whether she would have not mentioned that so her abductor wouldn't know at that time.

I don't know what relevance these factors might have played in the incident. Any thoughts?

[openminded]

Kind of old news but there was an article posted on 8/13 that had a comments section where someone said her husband saw Kristi walking with a man around 8:15pm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html (page 10 of comments section)

The person who made the comment described the the man: 6'2'' 250 lbs dark brown hair.

Has this been mentioned in any other reports? Just curious.

I haven't heard that on any of the Atlanta television stations (of course, I may have missed it).

[C.Hound]

I'm trying to research a timeline, but as has been said before, the reports are very confusing:

8/11: Abduction
8/12 True Crime reported that she was missing "since about half past 9 p.m."
The Missing Poster states that she was last seen at "9:15 - 9:20 p.m."
8/16: WXIA reported that "Tuesday night Cornwell went walking . . . around 9 p.m."

My guess is that she left the house around 9 p.m., perhaps a neighbor saw her around 9:15 - 9:20 p.m. (I agree that if she was walking for exercise, why would she have on flip-flops? Again, my guess is that she left the house so she could talk privately to DD and did not plan to walk very long.

Like others, I'm curious as to his dinner partner that night. Perhaps gagirl can enlighten us.

Also, I still would like to know if the "jealousy theory" has been exhausted.

I think I read that she started her walk around 8:30 p.m., but that could have been from early reports.

[n/t]

Well...I give up. This article says Kristi called DD. Who the heck knows what the truth is. I wish LE would confirm. Interesting comments. I guess others also suspect the BF.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/breaking/story/907509.html

[Cheri_G]

I'm trying to research a timeline, but as has been said before, the reports are very confusing:

8/11: Abduction
8/12 True Crime reported that she was missing "since about half past 9 p.m."
The Missing Poster states that she was last seen at "9:15 - 9:20 p.m."
8/16: WXIA reported that "Tuesday night Cornwell went walking . . . around 9 p.m."

My guess is that she left the house around 9 p.m., perhaps a neighbor saw her around 9:15 - 9:20 p.m. (I agree that if she was walking for exercise, why would she have on flip-flops? Again, my guess is that she left the house so she could talk privately to DD and did not plan to walk very long.

Like others, I'm curious as to his dinner partner that night. Perhaps gagirl can enlighten us.

Also, I still would like to know if the "jealousy theory" has been exhausted.

I've not seen any reports that stated a neighbor or anyone else saw Kristi during her walk.

If she left the house at 9pm and Davis heard the attack at 9:20pm as has been reported that would have put her about a mile from her home assuming she hadn't stopped or lallygagged.

I don't recall seeing any report that has mentioned how far the believed abduction point was from the house.

If she left the house for the main purpose of talking to Davis, I would guess that the abduction point was much closer to the home than it would have been had her main purpose been to go for a walk.

[ginky41]

Kind of old news but there was an article posted on 8/13 that had a comments section where someone said her husband saw Kristi walking with a man around 8:15pm
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html (page 10 of comments section)

The person who made the comment described the the man: 6'2'' 250 lbs dark brown hair.

Has this been mentioned in any other reports? Just curious.

This was briefly mentioned somewhere in the first few pages of the original thread, but nothing more was said about it after that....maybe b/c it was never mentioned/confirmed by LE?

(I read all 35+ pages just yesterday.)

[leema24]

Interesting story out of a little newspaper in Cherokee County, NC. The assistant editor's wife was followed during her jog (shortly before Kristi was abducted). Fortunately, neighbors noticed the man following her and she made it home safely. Doesn't sound like the man following her was caught though.
http://www.thecherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/20/opinions/doc4a8afb0348bff307721290.txt
http://www.thecherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/18/sports/doc4a8b0c181279b665952666.txt

It caught the attention of the GBI as they questioned him and his wife about it. Who knows if these 2 incidents are related but just thought it was interesting since it isn't that far away from Blairsville.

[leema24]

This was briefly mentioned somewhere in the first few pages of the original thread, but nothing more was said about it after that....maybe b/c it was never mentioned/confirmed by LE?

(I read all 35+ pages just yesterday.)


That's what I'm guessing. The person did mention they reported it to authorities but maybe nothing came out of it.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I have been trying to find direct quotes from any LE source that say the boyfriend and the exes have been cleared.

So far I have come across only one that only mentions DD and doesn't exactly clear his name IMO. Everything seems to be the reporter's words.

I have found lots of "we don't have any suspects at this time."Has anyone else seen direct quotes from any LE source that eliminate anyone? TIA

Ayers said Cornwell’s boyfriend "does not appear to have anything to do with her abduction."

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/archive/22262/

[HALE 2d GNAW]

According to Mr Davis on NG last night - he and Kristi walked the previous Saturday (I believe he said the same route) - so they have met.


Ain't that a coinky dinky IMO

[Cheri_G]

One of the things I noticed on these boards is the fact that some people keep asking about DD, his daughter and others, and they always have seem to have some snide remark about "Christians." Or they use the buzzwords, "evangelical" or "fundamentalist," attaching an aire of fanaticism to it in a round-about way. It sounds like some people have an axe to grind with those who believe in God, or maybe they just hate Christians in general and seek every opportunity to mock them in a public forum. I'm not Elmer Gantry and I seldom make an appearance at church, but I do believe in God and I'm more than a little offended at this conduct/attitude. It's obvious and it's annoying, at least to me.
"SPES MEA IN DEO EST."

Looking at your post count, I assume you are new to this board.

The type of discussion you appear to be looking to initiate does not belong here.

This forum is to discuss ideas, theories, and opinions on what happened to Kristi Cornwall, not religious beliefs.

[n/t]

Nancy Grace transcripts:

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: It was around 9:00 p.m. when Kristi Cornwell started her evening walk starting at her parents` home where those orange cones are just behind me. Now investigators say that there are two routes that Kristi could have taken and it`s not clear which route she intended to take the night that she went missing.

GRACE: Who saw her last? Who can tell me that they saw her go out for a walk? How do I know she wasn`t dead already?

LANCE: And employee leaving the New Union Baptist Church saw Kristi while she was on her walk. Now investigators believe that this was the last person to see Kristi before she was abducted.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One of the most difficult problem is she was in the middle of essentially nowhere where any car coming by could grab her and go any direction.

LANCE: Investigators believe that Kristi Cornwell made it to about this point in her walk that evening. About half a mile away from her parents` home. Now she was on the phone with her boyfriend. We don`t know that contents of that conversation but we do that Kristi told him there was a car following her.

The next thing he heard was Kristi screaming and saying, "Don`t take me." The phone went dead and Kristi Cornwell has not been seen or heard from since them.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight out to Eric Jens with WRGA News Radio. Eric, police are focusing with cadaver dogs in one specific area, why?

ERIC JENS, REPORTER, WRGA NEWS RADIO, COVERING STORY: Well, that area would be Kings Mountain, North Carolina. And that`s thanks to a tip that came in over the weekend.

That tip didn`t have a lot of details except to give Kristi`s name and to say Baltic Road, which is the area where they`re searching. It`s about 1 40, 50-acre area. They went over it yesterday by hand and foot then they brought in the dogs this afternoon.


continued

[n/t]

They could wrap it up as soon as tonight. They may go back again tomorrow. So far they have not found anything of significance.

GRACE: Joining me right now is a very special guest. A prime time exclusive interview. The boyfriend of Kristi Cornwell on the phone with her when she disappeared.

Now a lot of people had questions. Where was he? Where was she? How do we know this whole thing wasn`t set up? There are eyewitnesses placing her on that country road alone. His cell phone was in Atlanta and there are eyewitnesses placing him in Atlanta about two hours away at the time of the phone call.

So he was nowhere near her at the time she was clearly abducted. Right now to Douglas Davis.

Mr. Davis, thank you for being with us.

DOUGLAS DAVIS, KRISTI CORNWELL`S BOYFRIEND; ON THE PHONE WITH MISSING MOM WHEN ABDUCTED: Thank you, Nancy, for having me.

GRACE: Now you endured a lot of questioning, I`m sure. How are you holding up?

DAVIS: Well, only by God`s grace has carried me through this far. It`s been very difficult for us and the family to have seen this, to experience this abduction out of nowhere this occurred and you know, you can`t prepare for these type of things. But God`s grace carries us through it and I`m grateful for that.

GRACE: You are seeing home video just released of Kristi. Everybody, millions of women across this country go for a walk after work or after school.

DAVIS: Right.

GRACE: . chatting away on a cell phone. That`s just what she did.

DAVIS: Absolutely.

GRACE: Mr. Davis, you must know that our prayers and many, many other people are with you and Kristi`s family and her son especially.

DAVIS: Right.

GRACE: That evening when you were on the phone with her, what was the last thing you heard her say? What were her words?

DAVIS: Well, as you know, due to the investigation the depth of that conversation I can`t really divulge at this time. However, I heard her scream and it made me -- my first reaction that maybe the car that she spoke about maybe had hit her. And so I was calling her name. But then it became quite apparent to me that she was indeed being abducted by whomever these people were in this car.

GRACE: She told you about a car?

DAVIS: Yes. Just before this all occurred we had been talking about plans. We were to meet the next Thursday night in Dalton. She was then to come back to deal with her -- getting her registration completed for school the next Monday, and we were talking about having dinner that Thursday night when she interrupted and said hey, I`ve got to get off the road there`s a car coming. And then it was just moments after that she began screaming.

GRACE: Did she tell you what kind of car it was?

DAVIS: Again, as I`ve told before.

GRACE: You can`t.

DAVIS: You know, I just can`t talk about that. I`m sorry. I wish I could. But I can`t.

GRACE: No, I completely understood -- understand. Did you usually talk to her when she was out for a walk?

DAVIS: Yes. Several nights over the course of our relationship she would take a walk and especially the past week or so she had fell about 10 days earlier and she felt like this was great therapy to maybe to deal with that issue. And in fact, we -- she and I had done the same route on Saturday night of what supposed was the same route on Saturday night before this. And so it was common for her to make this walk.

GRACE: You know, Mr. Davis, last week, I believe it was Friday night, a viewer called in wanting to know what the book was she sent you and could it have any impact on this investigation. I don`t see that as being relevant. What book was it?

DAVIS: Well, it`s a daily prayer devotional. "My Utmost for His Highest" by Oswald Chambers. I got back in town early part of the week and went to get my mail after being gone for several days. I remember driving to the post office thinking, you know, there just might be something and then of course I shut that down saying, I don`t want to be disappointed.

And sure enough, though, when I opened up the box there it this gift was. I had not expected it. But, you know, it`s like Kristi is reaching out to me even now. She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and I`ve been reading it every day.

I don`t let it out of my sight. It`s such a treasured gift. And this is who Kristi was. She liked to give. She really enjoyed life. She`s a very intelligent woman and a loving mother. A dear sister to her brother, Richard. She loved her mom and her dad. Her family.

And she had some dearest friends and all of Blairsville will tell you that this woman here is just a remarkable woman. If you didn`t like Kristi well, that was your fault because she loved you. This is who I fell in love with, and we had made our plans and to spend time together.

Our future was being planned together. And I look forward to the day where she`s coming home. We`re going to find her alive and she and I will continue our relationship together.

GRACE: With me, the boyfriend who last spoke to Kristi. Like so many women, comes home in the evening, goes for a walk. She`s never seen again.

Everyone, as we go to break, on a happy note, congratulations to New York friend of the show, Nicky Torres. He`s college bound. He heads to SUNY Cobleskill, Upstate New York to study finance and try out for basketball and golf.

Congratulations, dear Nicky.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: A missing mom, last heard talking on her cell phone, now gone.

To Sergeant Scott Haines out of Pensacola, Florida, weigh in.

SGT. SCOTT HAINES, SHERIFF`S OFFICER, SANTA ROSA COUNTY, FL.: It`s a very tragedy situation. Hopefully someone from the public may have seen something. Obviously, they`ve been getting some tips and law enforcement`s been following up on that. Hopefully, they`ll be able to find something that leads them to her and hopefully she`ll be alive and OK.

GRACE: Douglas Davis, I think Sergeant Haines is correct. I am confident somebody knows something.

DAVIS: Absolutely.

GRACE: Douglas Davis, what is the hardest part of all this for you?

DAVIS: Well, you`re just suspended in time. It`s like for once -- you`re holding right here. You can`t go forward, and you don`t know what the next step is. Of course, every phone call, you`re hoping that is the call.

Today I was on an airplane coming back from New York for 2 1/2 hours, and the biggest fear was arriving and a message be there and you didn`t know which way it would be. And it was -- just those kind of situations is just, it`s just all I can do to bear it some days.

But I`m grateful that I have my Lord as my protector in this. I don`t know how anybody without hope in Jesus Christ could get through an ordeal like this.

GRACE: Mr. Davis, I guess it just keeps going through your mind over and over, when she called out, "Please don`t take me," when she called out and you couldn`t help her.

DAVIS: The most helpless feeling I have ever had. I made a commitment to her just a few days earlier that I would love her as Christ loved the church and died for the church, and yet in that moment, I was tested and I couldn`t help her. There was nothing I could do.

And yet, God allowed me this opportunity to start taking this stand that we need to take to be able to find her. You know I believe there`s someone out there who has pertinent information. They have seen it.

GRACE: Let me give the tip line.

DAVIS: They have seen it.

GRACE: Douglas, let me give the tip line. It`s 800-597-8477.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

[HALE 2d GNAW]

this is not directed at you, but, yes, I think some people enjoy picking

bolding mine:

If you feel this is true, that the different versions we get from the media are more credible than someone close to the situation, than you may be relieved if she does not return.

I feel that she had credibility and is in a surreal situation that could happen to any of us. One of our family members could be close to a crime and be scrutinized closely. She is hurt by the suspicion of him. She is young and loves her Dad. She thinks she is basically being called a liar and doubted. (my opinion after a PM with her) I just encouraged her that this may not be the best place for her because it is obviously hurting her and not many are appreciating it, anyway.

Of course, this is a crime board and this is what is done. We toss around ideas and theories. I like that part of it. I am trying to keep myself in check, also. I worded a previous post in a way that I regret, and will be more careful in the future.

Gosh, I hope gagirl didn't lead you to believe you were the only one getting her special pm. :wub:

DD tells conflicting stories. gagirl's change too. I will refrain from commenting on the merits of them. However, there is enough confusion regarding this story without an anonymous poster's revisions IMO

This story is about Kristi. Not DD or his daughter's hurt feelings. What does she care what anyone thinks? I'd be thrilled my daddy wasn't arrested as the so is always the first to be suspected. To date, I have seen NO LE quotes that clear anyone. But I would love to see them. Then we could possibly move on and gagirl would too. IMO

[Cheri_G]

Thanks Cheri G...for making the same point I was trying to make. Also, I guess I could write ad nauseum about DD's phone call and trip to the mountain, just to fatten up my "post count."

... or you could quit worrying about what other people are posting, post your own HONEST opinions and maybe add something new to the discussion.

You decide...

[C.Hound]

I can't believe D. Davis interrupted Nancy Grace as she was getting ready to share with viewers the tip line number and said, "They've seen it"!

[NoelsMommy]

I wonder if LE has some sort of description of either the vehicle(s) or person(s). Since Mr. Davis can't disclose whether a description of the car(s) was given, the reasons would be either:

1. LE doesn't want the abductor(s) to know they have that description, or

2. LE doesn't want the abductor(s) to know that they do NOT have any description...

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Thanks Cheri G...for making the same point I was trying to make. Also, I guess I could write ad nauseum about DD's phone call and trip to the mountain, just to fatten up my "post count."

Or you could just go over to the religion forum and discuss it as was suggested to you.

[Postergeist]

I can't believe D. Davis interrupted Nancy Grace as she was getting ready to share with viewers the tip line number and said, "They've seen it"!

Hi C. Hound- IMO that's not what he was inferring,

he just was repeating himself-

You know I believe there`s someone out there who has pertinent information. They have seen it.


I saw the broadcast last night- he's talking about there are people out there that have seen something, that know something (and that they need to report it)

imo

[Ms Daisy]

I've not seen any reports that stated a neighbor or anyone else saw Kristi during her walk.

If she left the house at 9pm and Davis heard the attack at 9:20pm as has been reported that would have put her about a mile from her home assuming she hadn't stopped or lallygagged.

I don't recall seeing any report that has mentioned how far the believed abduction point was from the house.

If she left the house for the main purpose of talking to Davis, I would guess that the abduction point was much closer to the home than it would have been had her main purpose been to go for a walk.

No link for you but I read that she was on her way back to her parents home after her walk (which some say was 4 miles? don't believe it since she was wearing flipflops) and was within .2 miles from home.

If all of this is true, I believe she would have had to leave home earlier than 9:00. A lot earlier. Like 7:45-8:00pm? I'm not a seasoned walker but it takes me (in similar hilly terrain) 1 hr to walk that mile without hurting my shin splints....and she too had an injury.

Fact is, we don't have enough info or confirmed evidence to go on to make any real judgments on exactly how this went down. I'm wondering if it hasn't been withheld purposely to keep any suspects or POI hanging out there wondering exactly what LE knows or what?

Looks like nobody knows much of anything about anything.

[C.Hound]

Hi C. Hound- IMO that's not what he was inferring,

he just was repeating himself-



I saw the broadcast last night- he's talking about there are people out there that have seen something, that know something (and that they need to report it)

imo

Thanks for clarifying. I see now that he did repeat his words.

[Mr FATE]

<< snipped >>

GRACE: Mr. Davis, you must know that our prayers and many, many other people are with you and Kristi`s family and her son especially.

DAVIS: Right.

GRACE: That evening when you were on the phone with her, what was the last thing you heard her say? What were her words?

DAVIS: Well, as you know, due to the investigation the depth of that conversation I can`t really divulge at this time. However, I heard her scream and it made me -- my first reaction that maybe the car that she spoke about maybe had hit her. And so I was calling her name. But then it became quite apparent to me that she was indeed being abducted by whomever these people were in this car.

GRACE: She told you about a car?

DAVIS: Yes. Just before this all occurred we had been talking about plans. We were to meet the next Thursday night in Dalton. She was then to come back to deal with her -- getting her registration completed for school the next Monday, and we were talking about having dinner that Thursday night when she interrupted and said hey, I`ve got to get off the road there`s a car coming. And then it was just moments after that she began screaming.

GRACE: Did she tell you what kind of car it was?

DAVIS: Again, as I`ve told before.

GRACE: You can`t.

DAVIS: You know, I just can`t talk about that. I`m sorry. I wish I could. But I can`t.

GRACE: No, I completely understood -- understand. Did you usually talk to her when she was out for a walk?

Just look at this - really look.

He first says he won't talk about the conversation - then ACTUALLY DOES talk about the conversation... but he talks about things that don't matter to anyone unless it's about future plans. I wonder if that's contrived - or real.

Then when the most important facts (Mr Davis' version of said events) he goes back to saying he can't speak about the investigation or the phone call.

If there is a description of a car - THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - and he won't reveal that. WTH???

no wonder many are suspicious.

[happy2bme]

Sorry if this has been posted already.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html


KINGS MOUNTAIN, N.C. -- There is still no sign of a missing Georgia woman.
Investigators had been searching Kings Mountain after getting a tip that 38-year-old Kristi Cornwell's body was buried there. So far, nothing has turned up.
It's been 13 days since police say she was abducted. Now, Cornwell's boyfriend, Douglas Davis, is pleading for her safe return.
"The first few days, I was in a daze," Davis said.
The two haven't known each other long.
Davis says he met Cornwell several weeks ago on a Christian Web site, fell in love and had recently been making plans to get married.
He says he was on the phone with her and heard everything that happened the moment she was abducted.
"She interrupted and said, 'Hey, a car is coming. Let me get off the road so they can pass,' and within seconds of that she began screaming," Davis said.
Davis says Cornwell was doing what she did every night, walking for exercise.
"I had to hear her be abducted," Davis said. "It was the most horrific, helpless feeling I have ever had in my entire life."
Davis says he called 911, but because he was 2 1/2 away, his call never got to the right place.
So he called Cornwell's mother and she called 911.
"The next phone call could be the one we're waiting on," Davis said. "We're certainly believing that she's still alive."

[Cheri_G]

No link for you but I read that she was on her way back to her parents home after her walk (which some say was 4 miles? don't believe it since she was wearing flipflops) and was within .2 miles from home.

If all of this is true, I believe she would have had to leave home earlier than 9:00. A lot earlier. Like 7:45-8:00pm? I'm not a seasoned walker but it takes me (in similar hilly terrain) 1 hr to walk that mile without hurting my shin splints....and she too had an injury.

Fact is, we don't have enough info or confirmed evidence to go on to make any real judgments on exactly how this went down. I'm wondering if it hasn't been withheld purposely to keep any suspects or POI hanging out there wondering exactly what LE knows or what?

Looks like nobody knows much of anything about anything.

Hi Ms. Daisy,

From what I have read Kristi was just starting out on her walk, not finishing it.

I can walk a mile in 15 - 20 minutes and that includes some uphill climb.

You are right about not enough information being out there. We don't even know what Kristi was last seen wearing, which means we don't know for sure if the flipflop story is accurate.

[happy2bme]

Sorry if this has been posted already.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html


KINGS MOUNTAIN, N.C. -- There is still no sign of a missing Georgia woman.
Investigators had been searching Kings Mountain after getting a tip that 38-year-old Kristi Cornwell's body was buried there. So far, nothing has turned up.
It's been 13 days since police say she was abducted. Now, Cornwell's boyfriend, Douglas Davis, is pleading for her safe return.
"The first few days, I was in a daze," Davis said.
The two haven't known each other long.
Davis says he met Cornwell several weeks ago on a Christian Web site, fell in love and had recently been making plans to get married.
He says he was on the phone with her and heard everything that happened the moment she was abducted.
"She interrupted and said, 'Hey, a car is coming. Let me get off the road so they can pass,' and within seconds of that she began screaming," Davis said.
Davis says Cornwell was doing what she did every night, walking for exercise.
"I had to hear her be abducted," Davis said. "It was the most horrific, helpless feeling I have ever had in my entire life."
Davis says he called 911, but because he was 2 1/2 away, his call never got to the right place.
So he called Cornwell's mother and she called 911.
"The next phone call could be the one we're waiting on," Davis said. "We're certainly believing that she's still alive."

I could have sworn I read somewhere that she said the car was following her?? I could be wrong.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

GRACE: She told you about a car?

DAVIS: Yes. Just before this all occurred we had been talking about plans. We were to meet the next Thursday night in Dalton. She was then to come back to deal with her -- getting her registration completed for school the next Monday, and we were talking about having dinner that Thursday night when she interrupted and said hey, I`ve got to get off the road there`s a car coming. And then it was just moments after that she began screaming

BBM Why do all of Kristi's missing posters say she told Doug that "a car was following her?"

Why is he telling that Thur night story that gagirl tweaked over here? First is was meeting that wknd, then "GUESS WHAT!" daddy meant Thur. when the wknd story was busted by Richard Cornwell.

Now per NG show, Doug say Kristi didn't lose registration papers or need to get it straightened out, she was merely completing them[/b]

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I could have sworn I read somewhere that she said the car was following her?? I could be wrong.


Thank you! We were posting at the same time

[ginky41]

respectfully snipped....
To date, I have seen NO LE quotes that clear anyone. But I would love to see them. Then we could possibly move on and gagirl would too. IMO


This is a great point, one that I was trying to make yesterday. People keep claiming that someone has been cleared but that's NOT the case. Until LE reports it, anyone is fair game for discussion, IMO. Additionally, even if LE does clear someone, it's not always the truth, as we all know. Sometimes it can be used as a tactic for varying reasons.

If DD is indeed innocent, which I hope, then it is unfortunate that he's been thru the wringer. Unfortunate for his family that clearly loves him dearly.

Most unfortunate is that Kristi is still missing and we would all like to know the truth regarding her disappearance.

[NoelsMommy]

<< snipped >>



Just look at this - really look.

He first says he won't talk about the conversation - then ACTUALLY DOES talk about the conversation... but he talks about things that don't matter to anyone unless it's about future plans. I wonder if that's contrived - or real.

Then when the most important facts (Mr Davis' version of said events) he goes back to saying he can't speak about the investigation or the phone call.

If there is a description of a car - THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - and he won't reveal that. WTH???

no wonder many are suspicious.


Hi F4TE! As I posted above, I believe the reason he can't give a description of the car is because LE won't let him either because they don't want the person to know they have one or they want them to think they have one.

I do, however, think if they did have a description, they would have released that information by now but since they're keeping everything else so close to their vest, maybe not.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

<< snipped >>



Just look at this - really look.

He first says he won't talk about the conversation - then ACTUALLY DOES talk about the conversation... but he talks about things that don't matter to anyone unless it's about future plans. I wonder if that's contrived - or real.

Then when the most important facts (Mr Davis' version of said events) he goes back to saying he can't speak about the investigation or the phone call.

If there is a description of a car - THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - and he won't reveal that. WTH???

no wonder many are suspicious.


UH HUH. Because he was too busy making his double alibi? Tweaking his stories?

May I add, if you go back and look how (and why) gagirl had to tweak that story he spewing about the Thur nite, you wil see it follows a patternb IMO

I find the way he provided the answer to NG's question bizarre. He made sure to get in the details didn't he?

[n/t]

This article (old) says she was wearing a white shirt and tan pants but nowhere does it mention that on her flyer. :shrug:

Ayers said Cornwell is 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighs 150 pounds, and was last seen wearing a white shirt and tan pants.

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/archive/22262/

[Mr FATE]

Hi F4TE! As I posted above, I believe the reason he can't give a description of the car is because LE won't let him either because they don't want the person to know they have one or they want them to think they have one.

I do, however, think if they did have a description, they would have released that information by now but since they're keeping everything else so close to their vest, maybe not.

yes ma'am I did see that and Hi to you too.

Here's what I think,

What he reveals during NG can not be verified... no one can verify that what he said is true or false, it's general gibber jabber. If Mr Davis gives a description of the car (to the police and the public) and it's a lie - he's suspect number one.

If Kristi never spoke of the car description - and he never reveals that to the police -in a sense- he is not lying nor impeding the investigation.

In my opinion, it's statements such as the one I highlighted that COULD potentially come back to haunt him and place him on thin ice regardless of whether or not he's involved. The police are going to want clarification.

Something is telling me - the police are watching his every word - just a gut feeling here.

[Ms Daisy]

Hi Ms. Daisy,

From what I have read Kristi was just starting out on her walk, not finishing it.

I can walk a mile in 15 - 20 minutes and that includes some uphill climb.
[/COLOR]

Hi Cheri.....well, again, we getting sooooo much conflicting info, it's difficult to make a reasonable assessment of anything that may possibly have happened.

What we know is: Kristi went for a walk and never made it back home. That's it.

(I can walk 1 mile in 24 minutes @ 3mph...or there about, on my tread mill....but NOT in the type of terrain Kristi was on....which is very similar to my neighborhood and worse):smile:

[happy2bme]

Hi F4TE! As I posted above, I believe the reason he can't give a description of the car is because LE won't let him either because they don't want the person to know they have one or they want them to think they have one.

I do, however, think if they did have a description, they would have released that information by now but since they're keeping everything else so close to their vest, maybe not.


http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html
NewsChannel 36 tried to get in touch with her family, but because of a gag order by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, they are not speaking to the media.


First I have heard of there being a GAG order.

[NoelsMommy]

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html
NewsChannel 36 tried to get in touch with her family, but because of a gag order by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, they are not speaking to the media.


First I have heard of there being a GAG order.


As someone mentioned in an earlier post on the other thread, I wonder if the reason they are keeping everything so hush, hush is because of Kristi's background in LE. Maybe that's the reason for the gag order and it's the first I've heard of there being one as well.

[Mr FATE]

UH HUH. Because he was too busy making his double alibi? Tweaking his stories?

May I add, if you go back and look how (and why) gagirl had to tweak that story he spewing about the Thur nite, you wil see it follows a patternb IMO

I find the way he provided the answer to NG's question bizarre. He made sure to get in the details didn't he?

yes he DID... non-verifiable details. There must be a reason behind that imo...

I don't believe in coincidences.

[n/t]

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html
NewsChannel 36 tried to get in touch with her family, but because of a gag order by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, they are not speaking to the media.


First I have heard of there being a GAG order.

:confused: I wonder what that's about. Why would there be a gag order on the family of a missing person? I have never heard of such a thing.

Anybody know why they would do that?:huh:

[Mr FATE]

:confused: I wonder what that's about. Why would there be a gag order on the family of a missing person? I have never heard of such a thing.

Anybody know why they would do that?:huh:


I could speculate - ran away (family matter, have something that points in that direction and want her to come home, let the attention die down) - or - allowing a certain someone to continue talking....

just speculating.

[ginky41]

yes he DID... non-verifiable details. There must be a reason behind that imo...

I don't believe in coincidences.

Although.......if he immediately used someone else's cellphone to phone 911 or Kristi's mom, one could surmise that there was another person nearby who may have heard/be able to corroborate his side of the conversation. We still don't know who that was. :confused: Not that it's necessarily important *who* but certainly someone who was with him could back him up. Make sense?

[happy2bme]

You guys may have seen this already also.


http://elianagodanswers.org/catalog/blog/

[HALE 2d GNAW]

:confused: I wonder what that's about. Why would there be a gag order on the family of a missing person? I have never heard of such a thing.

Anybody know why they would do that?:huh:

Maybe because DD can't? As he told NG

And yet, God allowed me this opportunity to start taking this stand that we need to take to be able to find her.

And no one else is allowed? Guy is full of it. That isn't just "flowery speech" IM

[ginky41]

:confused: I wonder what that's about. Why would there be a gag order on the family of a missing person? I have never heard of such a thing.

Anybody know why they would do that?:huh:

Maybe a Grand Jury bringing charges against someone????? Not speculating, just throwing out possibilities. For quite awhile the investigation into Robert Manwill's death seemed to be at a standstill until LE announced that his mother and her b/f had been arrested after being indicted by a GJ.

[Mr FATE]

Although.......if he immediately used someone else's cellphone to phone 911 or Kristi's mom, one could surmise that there was another person nearby who may have heard/be able to corroborate his side of the conversation. We still don't know who that was. :confused: Not that it's necessarily important *who* but certainly someone who was with him could back him up. Make sense?

why would he use the phone of someone else? didn't want his cell number recorded by the telephone company?? - it makes no sense - he has his own phone.

and don't someone say to save roaming charges - I'll scream :tonguewag:

[KittyMom]

http://www.thenewsobserver.com/articles/2009/08/25/news/news02.txt

Man tries to arrest mayor

Then, Earley said, they stated the man looked over at Greene where he was eating, and said that he recognized him. “You put my family in the penitentiary,” the man said, and then told Greene he was under arrest. The man started advising Greene of his rights, including the right to remain silent.


Maybe this is why LE is being so hush-hush about the case. They may be afraid of more crazies coming out and diverting their attention away from finding Kristi.

[ginky41]

why would he use the phone of someone else? didn't want his cell number recorded by the telephone company?? - it makes no sense - he has his own phone.

and don't someone say to save roaming charges - I'll scream :tonguewag:

LOL....no, I won't say that. Last night I understood gagirl's account to say that while he was on one phone with Kristi (according to her the connection didn't abruptly break off right away) he used someone else's phone to call 911 or call Kristi's mom.... Or something like that. Bottom line is I understood her to say there were two phones being used. IIRC.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

You guys may have seen this already also.


http://elianagodanswers.org/catalog/blog/

Wow. That site needs some attention and a spell checker.

One quirk I noticed about that site. At the bottom is says, Design by David Solomon, which is the made up name Octomom put on the birth certificate of her 4 oldest :lol: who's your daddy

[KittyMom]

http://www.thenewsobserver.com/articles/2009/08/25/opinions/opinion01.txt

It has been almost 30 years since a friend of mine left her and her husband’s home on the way to work in Chattanooga. She only had a short drive.


Apparently, there is at least one missing person's case still unsolved in Union County.

The writer also relays a story of a possible abduction attempt just days before Kristi's.

[Ice Cycle]

Well I see she got her own forum and it is booming today. I was on last night when gaggirl was on and I tend to believe she is who she says, though I don't believe anything definite until I hear it from LE so it does not matter much. About her explanation of DD holding on and using the friend's phone to call the Mother, made sense to me.
As I have said in any situation that I was not there and if their was some one close by, I would call them first and then hang up and call 911- depending on what or where the situation was. I mean 911 is easy to remember but if he knew the Mother's number without looking it up then it is what I would of done first. Seconds can make a big difference.

[happy2bme]

http://www.thenewsobserver.com/articles/2009/08/25/news/news02.txt

Man tries to arrest mayor



Maybe this is why LE is being so hush-hush about the case. They may be afraid of more crazies coming out and diverting their attention away from finding Kristi.

I read that article. Crazy is right.

[ginky41]

Well I see she got her own forum and it is booming today. I was on last night when gaggirl was on and I tend to believe she is who she says, though I don't believe anything definite until I hear it from LE so it does not matter much. About her explanation of DD holding on and using the friend's phone to call the Mother, made sense to me.
As I have said in any situation that I was not there and if their was some one close by, I would call them first and then hang up and call 911- depending on what or where the situation was. I mean 911 is easy to remember but if he knew the Mother's number without looking it up then it is what I would of done first. Seconds can make a big difference.

Agreed IC.... I'm neither here nor there with the 911 vs. Kristi's mom, time will tell I'm sure. When I brought up the two phones story I was intending to illustrate that it sounds as though someone was with DD and should be able to back him up/corroborate his story.

[Ice Cycle]

Maybe a Grand Jury bringing charges against someone????? Not speculating, just throwing out possibilities. For quite awhile the investigation into Robert Manwill's death seemed to be at a standstill until LE announced that his mother and her b/f had been arrested after being indicted by a GJ.

I just wonder if it is due to info Kristi told DD, such as type of car,ect and maybe he has told the Parents. It is possible LE does not want that info out to scare the perp or perps off.

[n/t]

I wonder if the gag order was because of what Kristi's dad said regarding meeting people on the internet. *sigh*

I think DD should be gagged too, if LE doesn't want info out there. I don't get it.

[C.Hound]

Sorry if this has been posted already.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-082409-mrn-missingwoman.112df09d2.html


KINGS MOUNTAIN, N.C. -- There is still no sign of a missing Georgia woman.
Investigators had been searching Kings Mountain after getting a tip that 38-year-old Kristi Cornwell's body was buried there. So far, nothing has turned up.
It's been 13 days since police say she was abducted. Now, Cornwell's boyfriend, Douglas Davis, is pleading for her safe return.
"The first few days, I was in a daze," Davis said.
The two haven't known each other long.
Davis says he met Cornwell several weeks ago on a Christian Web site, fell in love and had recently been making plans to get married.
He says he was on the phone with her and heard everything that happened the moment she was abducted.
"She interrupted and said, 'Hey, a car is coming. Let me get off the road so they can pass,' and within seconds of that she began screaming," Davis said.
Davis says Cornwell was doing what she did every night, walking for exercise.
"I had to hear her be abducted," Davis said. "It was the most horrific, helpless feeling I have ever had in my entire life."
Davis says he called 911, but because he was 2 1/2 away, his call never got to the right place.
So he called Cornwell's mother and she called 911.
"The next phone call could be the one we're waiting on," Davis said. "We're certainly believing that she's still alive."

I can only speak for myself. If I was in the midst of a phone conversation and the other person was talking, I wouldn't interrupt to say a car was coming; I'd simply move off the road.

If I go along with what D. Davis has been saying in his interviews, something more must have been said about the car and that information is vital to the investigation and can't be shared. On the other hand, the continued contradictions in his stories and gagirl's information makes me a cynic. I'm beginning to wonder if Kristi never mentioned a car, and D. Davis made up that story as I suspect he has done about the devotional book and the note. I don't know why he would do that except to throw off LE...or else he likes hearing his own voice.

IMO.

[happy2bme]

I can only speak for myself. If I was in the midst of a phone conversation and the other person was talking, I wouldn't interrupt to say a car was coming; I'd simply move off the road.

If I go along with what D. Davis has been saying in his interviews, something more must have been said about the car and that information is vital to the investigation and can't be shared. On the other hand, the continued contradictions in his stories and gagirl's information makes me a cynic. I'm beginning to wonder if Kristi never mentioned a car, and D. Davis made up that story as I suspect he has done about the devotional book and the note. I don't know why he would do that except to throw off LE...or else he likes hearing his own voice.

IMO.

That was my first thought as well C.Hound when I read that.

[Hey Paula]

I read on a local board that DD is familiar with the area because he lived in Blue Ridge Georgia for a few years, and that he was pastor at a church in Blairsville. It also stated that he has family in Blue Ridge Georgia.

[ginky41]

That was my first thought as well C.Hound when I read that.


I agree that a lot of what he has said is odd, IMO. I don't know if I think he's guilty of something yet... The one question I can't figure out is: what would be his motive?

[Curious]

I have to say I am skeptical about GaGirl. Have any of you veteran poster's seen family members post here in defense of their family member? If she is so busy supporting her Dad, going to school, working, etc., wouldn't paying attention to what we say here be the last thing on your mind? Also why this Board? I can name at least 5 others where this case is being discussed?

[ginky41]

I have to say I am skeptical about GaGirl. Have any of you veteran poster's seen family members post here in defense of their family member? If she is so busy supporting her Dad, going to school, working, etc., wouldn't paying attention to what we say here be the last thing on your mind? Also why this Board? I can name at least 5 others where this case is being discussed?

I'm a long-time poster. Back to the days of court tv. (Had to start over after the change and somehow lost a huge amount of post counts last summer shortly after they switched the board to the new format.) None of the threads that I have been involved in have had family members posting a defense, that I knew of. This is the first. There have been a few family members of the missing person in question, however. I sure think she knows a lot about this case...whether she really is the daughter??? I don't know. It makes me wonder how and why she can give out information so freely???

[C.Hound]

I agree that a lot of what he has said is odd, IMO. I don't know if I think he's guilty of something yet... The one question I can't figure out is: what would be his motive?

The only motive I can think of is that she either had broken up with him or was in the process of doing so and he felt spurned. I know some posters have indicated that this couldn't be a possible reason because Kristi and D. Davis haven't known each other for long, but stalkers have attacked victims they've never spoken to, so I'm not sure why it's not feasible to think something relationship-related couldn't have happened in this case.

Hopefully Davis' friend/cousin/dinner date will be able to come forward soon to corroborate his story about what happened the night Kristi disappeared so that the focus is taken off of him if he is innocent.

[ClimbingRose]

I have to say I am skeptical about GaGirl. Have any of you veteran poster's seen family members post here in defense of their family member? If she is so busy supporting her Dad, going to school, working, etc., wouldn't paying attention to what we say here be the last thing on your mind? Also why this Board? I can name at least 5 others where this case is being discussed?



I have read thru several forums from when the crime occurred to LE arresting the suspect. The behaviors of family members that I have noticed tend to be very open to ideas,suggestions and theories of others which they willingly provided additional information to answer questions others have. What I have never seen from family members and close loved ones is defensive behavior's that accuses posters of bullying them, ulterior motives, a purpose for seeking some perverse form of entertainment or denouncing our sincerity for wanting the truth.

[JanJan]

Like the rest of you, I have never heard of LE issuing a "gag order." Only a judge can do that. Maybe they just asked him to keep quiet which is probably a really good idea!

Also, has anyone noticed any resemblance between Kristi and Tara Grimstead?

[Curious]

Has it been confirmed that DD & Kristi ever met in person - by anyone besides DD?

DD says he went and walked with Kristi the Saturday before. I wonder if the neighbors noticed his strange car in the area?

DD & gagirl say they are united with the family. What does that mean to them? I don't see any unity between these 2 families.

Is DD helping hide Kristi? Did he do anything to her? Or he likes to preach to an audience? He's only known her a few weeks. gagirl doesn't even know Kristi.

Either DD is an arrogant azz inserting himself for 15 minutes of fame or he is misleading the public, maybe LE. I don't see what purpose gagirl, whomever it is, hopes to serve. It's all about "her" feelings and "her" daddy. LE has not cleared them officiallyas we have no direct quotes from them.So by showing up here, they a false sense of security or is it insecurity? IMO

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/08/25/ng.missing.boyfriend.cnn

Listen to his words "Us and Her Family"
Key phrases IMO ...
He also says" whoever those people were in that car"

[Mr FATE]

I have to be honest and this is my opinion.

Mr Davis's own actions and words have left me with no other explanation then to be suspicious of him.

The phone(s) calls are very very odd and unexplainable. He can't go on TV night after night and try to undo his actions with words. It's not gonna happen for me.

As everyone knows - he didn't call 911 immediately and that's a huge problem for me especially after he has repeatedly stated that he is planning a future with Kristi. I would wonder how long the future was going to be and there is no one who has stepped forward and said Kristi told me she was crazy about this man and intended to marry him.

He calls the Cornwells and has Kristi's mom call 911. Did he do this so the light of suspicion was not glaring on him the instant he "knew" Kristi was "abducted"? In a sense to cover himself.

+++

I have learned over the years that when actions are not in line with good deeds - there is a reason and that reason will be exposed at some point. I am not sure I buy the majority of his explanations, or his reasons for clarifying what he said previously. When that happens - I generally have a hard time trusting someone's over-all package of words, actions, and re-actions. At that point I begin to look at them in a different light and wonder what it is he could be hiding or not sharing with the police.

We have one person's side of the story and Kristi is not here to give her side. Mr Davis story does not congeal in my mind to date and pieces are deliberately missing or have escaped his memory.

In a worse case scenario Kristi was abducted by someone she knew or didn't know and Mr Davis is un-involved in any manner, shape or form and has exhibited some terrible judgment. One thing is certain - he was not looking out for her best interests.

A case like this is doubly difficult because no scenario is easily tossed out.
-jmo-

[ginky41]

No Ginky why would "GaGirl" concern herself, sorry, lol.

I see what you're saying now....LOL. I can only guess that she loves her dad as many of us do and hates to see negative things written about him, especially on a message board. Reminds me of Jackie Peterson in a way, who still thinks her son walks on water. Only Jackie should know better....gagirl (if she is who she says she is) is just an innocent bystander, IMO.

[Mr FATE]

I have to say I am skeptical about GaGirl. Have any of you veteran poster's seen family members post here in defense of their family member? If she is so busy supporting her Dad, going to school, working, etc., wouldn't paying attention to what we say here be the last thing on your mind? Also why this Board? I can name at least 5 others where this case is being discussed?

Curious - I have been on these forums for a good while now and have seen everything imaginable.



I think I have seen it all. But tomorrow is a new day and who knows what that will bring.

I have seen family members on boards and they are generally the family members of a missing person. The family of a suspect or poi wouldn't last long and their feelings would be rapidly hurt in my opinion.

Mr Davis is not a suspect nor poi at this point and gagirl85 has a right to defend her father in my opinion and to help clarify any issues that are outstanding. Sometimes in the effort to clarify - more questions are raised as we have seen here.

[ClimbingRose]

I have to be honest and this is my opinion.

Mr Davis's own actions and words have left me with no other explanation then to be suspicious of him.

The phone(s) calls are very very odd and unexplainable. He can't go on TV night after night and try to undo his actions with words. It's not gonna happen for me.

As everyone knows - he didn't call 911 immediately and that's a huge problem for me especially after he has repeatedly stated that he is planning a future with Kristi. I would wonder how long the future was going to be and there is no one who has stepped forward and said Kristi told me she was crazy about this man and intended to marry him.

He calls the Cornwells and has Kristi's mom call 911. Did he do this so the light of suspicion was not glaring on him the instant he "knew" Kristi was "abducted"? In a sense to cover himself.

+++

I have learned over the years that when actions are not in line with good deeds - there is a reason and that reason will be exposed at some point. I am not sure I buy the majority of his explanations, or his reasons for clarifying what he said previously. When that happens - I generally have a hard time trusting someone's over-all package of words, actions, and re-actions. At that point I begin to look at them in a different light and wonder what it is he could be hiding or not sharing with the police.

We have one person's side of the story and Kristi is not here to give her side. Mr Davis story does not congeal in my mind to date and pieces are deliberately missing or have escaped his memory.

In a worse case scenario Kristi was abducted by someone she knew or didn't know and Mr Davis is un-involved in any manner, shape or form and has exhibited some terrible judgment. One thing is certain - he was not looking out for her best interests.

A case like this is doubly difficult because no scenario is easily tossed out.
-jmo-

Could not agree more and feel as strongly regarding this bf. Actions tell so much more than words. Only need to look at Kristi's family to hear what they feel

[ginky41]

I have to be honest and this is my opinion.

Mr Davis's own actions and words have left me with no other explanation then to be suspicious of him.

respectfully snipped...


I agree F4TE, I am suspicious of him as well, despite all the "evidence" showing he couldn't possibly be involved. I'm not ready to say he's involved but I'm certainly not ready to count him out, either.

Have you any thoughts toward a motive? I'm not baiting...I'm genuninely curious.

[Mr FATE]

I agree F4TE, I am suspicious of him as well, despite all the "evidence" showing he couldn't possibly be involved. I'm not ready to say he's involved but I'm certainly not ready to count him out, either.

Have you any thoughts toward a motive? I'm not baiting...I'm genuninely curious.

Not yet, but I'm thinking about that and not enough info is available.

and yourself???

[HALE 2d GNAW]

I have to be honest and this is my opinion.

Mr Davis's own actions and words have left me with no other explanation then to be suspicious of him.

The phone(s) calls are very very odd and unexplainable. He can't go on TV night after night and try to undo his actions with words. It's not gonna happen for me.

As everyone knows - he didn't call 911 immediately and that's a huge problem for me especially after he has repeatedly stated that he is planning a future with Kristi. I would wonder how long the future was going to be and there is no one who has stepped forward and said Kristi told me she was crazy about this man and intended to marry him.

He calls the Cornwells and has Kristi's mom call 911. Did he do this so the light of suspicion was not glaring on him the instant he "knew" Kristi was "abducted"? In a sense to cover himself.

+++

I have learned over the years that when actions are not in line with good deeds - there is a reason and that reason will be exposed at some point. I am not sure I buy the majority of his explanations, or his reasons for clarifying what he said previously. When that happens - I generally have a hard time trusting someone's over-all package of words, actions, and re-actions. At that point I begin to look at them in a different light and wonder what it is he could be hiding or not sharing with the police.

We have one person's side of the story and Kristi is not here to give her side. Mr Davis story does not congeal in my mind to date and pieces are deliberately missing or have escaped his memory.

In a worse case scenario Kristi was abducted by someone she knew or didn't know and Mr Davis is un-involved in any manner, shape or form and has exhibited some terrible judgment. One thing is certain - he was not looking out for her best interests.

A case like this is doubly difficult because no scenario is easily tossed out.
-jmo-

Good points.

My thing about the 2 phones. Watching this man annoint himself caretaker just gags me. So it comes as no surprise he would go out out of his way to prove his innocence. He wasn't near the crime scene, he was on his cell phone and he has eye witness testimonial!

Say he really thought Kristi was still on the line, how is he helping her and calling 911 with borrowed phone in the other hand? What was cuz doing? Just standing there during the crisis while DD operated a mini command center?

So then cuz, eyewitness speeds with DD to Blairsville with the dual phone alibis. gagirl claims to bring him dry clothes. Where did cuz go? How did DD get around if he had no wheels? Did cuz not get any fresh clothes? Why did (DD or gagirl one) say that DD searched all night in rain with Richard? Richard says HE walked all night.

This is over the top. He is either perpetuating a hoax or he is hiding somthing. I just wish he'd stop.

[ClimbingRose]

Indeed, has the person who was seen walking with her for that brief time been reported?

With today's technology, gadgets and software that can be so easily manipulated it's so much harder to rule out someone based on phone calls and location. Unfair? perhaps but must be done.

[ginky41]

Not yet, but I'm thinking about that and not enough info is available.

and yourself???

I'm not sure either. I don't think it was a crime of opportunity due to the location, although it still could be a stranger/stalker. Someone who saw her or knew her routine, etc.

I think that DD is suspicious, some of the things that he has chosen to verbalize are odd, IMO, but I just can't fathom a motive. Certainly he could be disappointed if she was trying to break up with him or something (a possibility, not necessarily a theory)....but for him to stage an elaborate abduction scheme after only 7 weeks of dating would put him in my "crazy" category. Does that make any sense?

So, based on the little information we know I'm not leaning in one particular direction. I just hope that LE knows more than they are letting on. I always worry about that.

[Mr FATE]

Indeed, has the person who was seen walking with her for that brief time been reported?

With today's technology, gadgets and software that can be so easily manipulated it's so much harder to rule out someone based on phone calls and location. Unfair? perhaps but must be done.


my uncle is a bookie and uses a relay box for his incoming calls. Those calls are forwarded from a cell phone on a box to another land line to a cell phone...juss sayin'...

[Intermeist]

I have been reading from the beginning of this case, but have not commented up to this point. I hate to re-stir the DD pot again and I know I have a fairly fertile imagination, but here goes. To me, there is absolutely no proof at all that the relationship Kristi and DD had was what DD has said. I find it extremely difficult to accept that they were that serious when no one in Krist's life seems to have even been aware of his existence (with the possible exception of her parents, given her Dad's warning about internet relationships). Perhaps to him, he had found his soul mate...perhaps to her, it was a friendship.

[ClimbingRose]

OK, I'll stop. And No, I haven't forgotten she's missing. I also realize attacking those whom she liked or maybe even loved, when the police haven't declared any of them a "person of interest" yet, is kinda like slapping Kristi in the face and insulting her judgement. Of course, she's not here to defend herself, her friends or her relationships with them. Is she? She's not here to say, "Hey, he didn't do anything to me." Which makes it easy for anonymous people to render judgements based on what they think makes sense to them. They mock Kristi by mocking her Boyfriend, his child, their religious beliefs and everything about them. They poke fun at how they met, as if Christians aren't supposed to use the internet (in their minds). GaGirl is a kid who's terrified inside for a number of reasons and I'm sure Kristi's son is so distraught he's all bent-up inside, too. DD was on the phone with a woman who was snatched off the street! Can anyone even begin to imagine what that must be like? And from the safety of their desktops they want to inspect every statement he makes at this stressful time, his gestures or tiny bits of minutia, as if their opinions matter? Family members, friends of Kristi's and LE/GBI are reading these posts. How do you think they feel when they read some of the stuff that's being said... some of the questions that are being asked... some of the insinuations that are being made? It's a good thing we have a justice system, because if we didn't, I'm sure DD would've been lined up and shot at dawn by those who feel they are all important. Leave this guy alone and leave his child alone. The police haven't arrested him, he's not a P.O.I. and he's been cooperating. Is there anyone in here who thinks Kristi would want this for them?

Maybe if he would quit interjecting himself into the media coverage his daughter and self would be left alone.

[Mr FATE]

Good points.

My thing about the 2 phones. Watching this man annoint himself caretaker just gags me. So it comes as no surprise he would go out out of his way to prove his innocence. He wasn't near the crime scene, he was on his cell phone and he has eye witness testimonial!

Say he really thought Kristi was still on the line, how is he helping her and calling 911 with borrowed phone in the other hand? What was cuz doing? Just standing there during the crisis while DD operated a mini command center?

So then cuz, eyewitness speeds with DD to Blairsville with the dual phone alibis. gagirl claims to bring him dry clothes. Where did cuz go? How did DD get around if he had no wheels? Did cuz not get any fresh clothes? Why did (DD or gagirl one) say that DD searched all night in rain with Richard? Richard says HE walked all night.

This is over the top. He is either perpetuating a hoax or he is hiding somthing. I just wish he'd stop.

excellent points - and what about a three way call Kristi was unaware of? that could make a call appear somewhere it wasn't... and change of clothes never sounds good. Sorry it doesn't. I have boots, golf shoes, and extra clothes in my car all the time.

[Mr FATE]

Good points.

My thing about the 2 phones. Watching this man annoint himself caretaker just gags me. So it comes as no surprise he would go out out of his way to prove his innocence. He wasn't near the crime scene, he was on his cell phone and he has eye witness testimonial!

Say he really thought Kristi was still on the line, how is he helping her and calling 911 with borrowed phone in the other hand? What was cuz doing? Just standing there during the crisis while DD operated a mini command center?

So then cuz, eyewitness speeds with DD to Blairsville with the dual phone alibis. gagirl claims to bring him dry clothes. Where did cuz go? How did DD get around if he had no wheels? Did cuz not get any fresh clothes? Why did (DD or gagirl one) say that DD searched all night in rain with Richard? Richard says HE walked all night.

This is over the top. He is either perpetuating a hoax or he is hiding somthing. I just wish he'd stop.

the more I thought about what you just said - I feel the answer is somewhere in here.

[ginky41]

I have been reading from the beginning of this case, but have not commented up to this point. I hate to re-stir the DD pot again and I know I have a fairly fertile imagination, but here goes. To me, there is absolutely no proof at all that the relationship Kristi and DD had was what DD has said. I find it extremely difficult to accept that they were that serious when no one in Krist's life seems to have even been aware of his existence (with the possible exception of her parents, given her Dad's warning about internet relationships). Perhaps to him, he had found his soul mate...perhaps to her, it was a friendship.'


Good point. It's a definite possibility.

[ginky41]

Or maybe the cops have asked him to appear on the air for one particular reason or another. Anyone here ever think of that? He might not want to be there, but maybe he has to. There might be things going on behind the scenes that nobody on here knows about. There isn't one person here who can truely imagine the pain, sufferring and stress that all of these real people are feeling on the ground in Blairsville.


Why would he have to? Especially if it's against his better judgement?

[n/t]

Just throwing this out there....

Gagirl at the very beginning kept saying her dad is innocent and she kept saying "trust me" on this.

She also seems to know alot about that night and about Kristi. Do you think gagirl is the mystery person with DD that night and that's why she's so sure he had nothing to do with it?

[Mr FATE]

Just throwing this out there....

Gagirl at the very beginning kept saying her dad is innocent and she kept saying "trust me" on this.

She also seems to know alot about that night and about Kristi. Do you think gagirl is the mystery person with DD that night and that's why she's so sure he had nothing to do with it?


why would I trust anyone on the internet that says "trust me"?

a plea for trust??

trust is earned not granted.

And infact - some of her info was discovered to be fraudulent.

[ginky41]

Just throwing this out there....

Gagirl at the very beginning kept saying her dad is innocent and she kept saying "trust me" on this.

She also seems to know alot about that night and about Kristi. Do you think gagirl is the mystery person with DD that night and that's why she's so sure he had nothing to do with it?

Could be...hadn't thought of that. If that's the case I wonder why he/she can't just come out and say so.... I got a little nervous for gagirl when she was posting last night. She seemed to be giving out a little more detail about a few things than even DD has said in public. If he's been asked to be quiet I would think she'd want to keep quiet as well, but that's just me.

[ginky41]

why would I trust anyone on the internet that says "trust me"?

a plea for trust??

trust is earned not granted.

And infact - some of her info was discovered to be fraudulent.

Not defending gagirl, just playing devil's advocate here....

But she was able to explain away the discrepancies in ways that made sense, IMO. I'm speaking specifically about the "mutual friend" comment. Mutual friend = the Internet. That doesn't sound contrived. Plus, I think it was doctor J that advised her not to put out mis- or half-truths because it can cause unfair criticism or raise further questions. I hope if she comes back she will heed that advice. It would certainly help her credibility. IMO.

[ClimbingRose]

Or maybe the cops have asked him to appear on the air for one particular reason or another. Anyone here ever think of that? He might not want to be there, but maybe he has to. There might be things going on behind the scenes that nobody on here knows about. There isn't one person here who can truely imagine the pain, sufferring and stress that all of these real people are feeling on the ground in Blairsville.


Let's see, LE speaks to family....family goes on a very limited amount of interviews where they don't go into specific areas on the advice of LE...on the other hand DD goes on this wild media circus....discusses key pieces of information but refuses to go any further b/c LE has told him not to....when refering to Kristi tend to uses past tense verbs....during these interviews he attempts to portray his relationship with Kristi as something serious and planning their future together...he is doing this b/c LE has encouraged him to? And he isn't enjoying all of his media exposure? Absolutely not!!!

You are correct this family is suffering and hurting but not convinced this is a priority for DD.

[doradoll]

I just happened to see a program about missing women. One was Dru Sjoden from North Dakota. She was also on the phone with her boyfriend when she was abducted. She stopped speaking to him and said, " OK...OK" and then the phone went dead. Then he received a call back, only to hear someone pressing on the numbers. Not a whole lot for him to report, but he was worried and called her friend.

Does anyone know the address from where Kristi went missing? I would like to google it. I wonder how far off the road her parent's house is?

[Postergeist]

I'm surprised no one (unless I've missed it!) has mentioned something VERY ODD about the Nancy Grace transcript - DD's past tense references to Kristi. "Kristi was....Kristi was...was...was..." not "is".

Strange, huh? Hinky. I guess we'll see.

<snipped> I noticed that too Pomme, watching her show last night.

He seemed to switch between present and past tense, with more past tense. I've seen this before in other cases- sadly, didn't end well for the victim.

imo

[n/t]

Found another article with a few answers to some of our questions.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html

[seemsodd]

I am a new poster, however I have been following your thread for several days.

I live in blairsville, the small town where Kristi was abducted from. I'm not sure if it's going to add anything to your thoughts on this case but on the night Kristi was abducted from Jones Creek area, there was a murder and a high speed chase. You can verify this on our local paper website north georgia news blairsville check the archives from August 19 local reporters and LE say the cases wasn't connected however we never have allot of crime in this area that night was a very scary night for most of the residents here.

[Postergeist]

Found another article with a few answers to some of our questions.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html

thanks for this link n/t and hi ya Rainy!


due to your link I now have the recipe for the carrot souffle which I love!

[doradoll]

Found another article with a few answers to some of our questions.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html

thanks n/t

that does help

the GBI has ruled out ex-husbands and bf, per their spokesman

[doradoll]

Is anyone here familiar with the cell phone she had? Was it Blue Tooth that is hands free and you wear over your ear? If so, do you have to have another device to use it, or is it a phone all in itself?

How secure is it on the ear if one was in a scuffle?

[doctor_J]

<snipped> I noticed that too Pomme, watching her show last night.

He seemed to switch between present and past tense, with more past tense. I've seen this before in other cases- sadly, didn't end well for the victim.

imo

Yes, I've yet to see a single one who says "I think she's dead. Statistics tell us she's probably dead". Doesn't happen. Especially not going to happen with someone who prays and is requesting prayer. The mom used past tense too. Just because everything about Kristi is past tense right now.

Anyone ever seen a case like this turn out well after this long?? With no ransom demand? Except for the runaways?

I keep thinking about the mom receiving that horrible phone call. Talk about a nightmare. Everyone is hurting but the bf will recover quickly (about 6 weeks I'd guess). The mom, dad, brother, son will not. They need some answers badly.

I feel sorry for the bf but not because of his love interest. The suspicion will hang over him if there are no answers and that will be a nightmare of it's own. I think he's a sincere guy, just a little disingenuous to say the least. I consider anyone pretty silly to be so head over heels in love with a virtual stanger. Not a romantic bone in my body. His daughter is hurting for him and trying to help, not comprehending the nature of this site. It's not a spiritual/condolence/memorial site. People are going to say what they are thinking and she's going to get hurt even more.

I don't have a problem with people suspecting him but I'd like to know more about what they're suspecting him OF doing, besides being too emotional/spiritual. A complex 3rd party abduction??

[doradoll]

I am a new poster, however I have been following your thread for several days.

I live in blairsville, the small town where Kristi was abducted from. I'm not sure if it's going to add anything to your thoughts on this case but on the night Kristi was abducted from Jones Creek area, there was a murder and a high speed chase. You can verify this on our local paper website north georgia news blairsville check the archives from August 19 local reporters and LE say the cases wasn't connected however we never have allot of crime in this area that night was a very scary night for most of the residents here.


who was murdered?

[ginky41]

Is anyone here familiar with the cell phone she had? Was it Blue Tooth that is hands free and you wear over your ear? If so, do you have to have another device to use it, or is it a phone all in itself?

How secure is it on the ear if one was in a scuffle?

If she had a bluetooth it is a separate piece from the cellphone, but she still would have had to have her cellphone, maybe in her pocket or something. Some models are more sturdy on your ear than others -- just depends on the type of bluetooth she had.

[n/t]

thanks n/t

that does help

the GBI has ruled out ex-husbands and bf, per their spokesman

I think many will agree that this is confirmation that Doug Davis is not involved nor are her ex husbands.

[Postergeist]

who was murdered?

I'm trying to find that- found a topix forum with posts from Aug. 12 that said a person had been arrested, but the link in their posts are no longer active.

it's under murder in Union Co.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TL0HMK1L4L9U7344B

[ginky41]

Can anyone think of any cases offhand where LE has said someone is not a suspect or POI and it turned out they were? Just curious how often that happens. TIA.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Can anyone think of any cases offhand where LE has said someone is not a suspect or POI and it turned out they were? Just curious how often that happens. TIA.

Yes - Susan Smith was one....and I am NOT implying that DD or the exes are Susan Smith, but that one comes to mind immediately.

[lune3]

Found another article with a few answers to some of our questions.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html

Given Kristi's mother's comments regarding Kristi staying close to home and that "Dalton is the farthest away she's ever lived",, this does not sound like a woman who has run off. It seems to me that she was comfortable in the area and not very interested in exploring other areas, or travel. She could have gone to school in another place, another state if she was more adventurous.

[doradoll]

I'm trying to find that- found a topix forum with posts from Aug. 12 that said a person had been arrested, but the link in their posts are no longer active.

it's under murder in Union Co.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-ga/TL0HMK1L4L9U7344B

strange

I googled all the info and got nothing, as well.

Murder of Gwen by Richard Bishop 76 years old is all I can get from that site. Her family lives in Blairesville.

I'll bet the citizen's of Blairesville are locking their doors tonight. Such a shame, as it is a beautiful and peaceful area.

[ginky41]

Yes - Susan Smith was one....and I am NOT implying that DD or the exes are Susan Smith, but that one comes to mind immediately.

TY Rainy. I'm certainly not trying to compare any cases with this one, I'm just wondering how often that happens. This helps, thx. Let me know if you come up with others.

[Hey Paula]

I am a new poster, however I have been following your thread for several days.

I live in blairsville, the small town where Kristi was abducted from. I'm not sure if it's going to add anything to your thoughts on this case but on the night Kristi was abducted from Jones Creek area, there was a murder and a high speed chase. You can verify this on our local paper website north georgia news blairsville check the archives from August 19 local reporters and LE say the cases wasn't connected however we never have allot of crime in this area that night was a very scary night for most of the residents here.

Hi Seemsodd and welcome to the board!

I suppose that's why the GBI was in the area the night Kristi disappeared, i.e.because of the murder and high speed chase.

Do you know the distance between where the murder and chase took place and where Kristi's abduction occurred?

Were the vehicles involved in the murder and chase similar to those described in the area where Kristi was walking?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

[Postergeist]

Yes, I've yet to see a single one who says "I think she's dead. Statistics tell us she's probably dead". Doesn't happen. Especially not going to happen with someone who prays and is requesting prayer. The mom used past tense too. Just because everything about Kristi is past tense right now.

Anyone ever seen a case like this turn out well after this long?? With no ransom demand? Except for the runaways?



<snipped> Hi ya Doc J- with adults, I can't think of any off the top of my head that ended well (other than those that had faked their own) but with kids, yeah a few- Elizabeth Smart, Shasta Groene, Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck, all taken by strangers.

[Cheri_G]

I am a new poster, however I have been following your thread for several days.

I live in blairsville, the small town where Kristi was abducted from. I'm not sure if it's going to add anything to your thoughts on this case but on the night Kristi was abducted from Jones Creek area, there was a murder and a high speed chase. You can verify this on our local paper website north georgia news blairsville check the archives from August 19 local reporters and LE say the cases wasn't connected however we never have allot of crime in this area that night was a very scary night for most of the residents here.

I remember reading about that. I had wondered at the time if there might be any connection between the two cases but read later that LE said there wasn't.

[just42day97]

I am a new poster, however I have been following your thread for several days.

I live in blairsville, the small town where Kristi was abducted from. I'm not sure if it's going to add anything to your thoughts on this case but on the night Kristi was abducted from Jones Creek area, there was a murder and a high speed chase. You can verify this on our local paper website north georgia news blairsville check the archives from August 19 local reporters and LE say the cases wasn't connected however we never have allot of crime in this area that night was a very scary night for most of the residents here.


Welcome to the board...

Wow this is the first I have heard of this....

[seemsodd]

who was murdered?



http://www.nganews.com


I'm not sure how to post the link maybe this will work, a man killed his care taker the same night Kristi was abducted the murder was also on Jones Creek you can read it on the nganews.com web site in the archives the chase was also on Jones Creek it too is on the same front page as Kristi's abduction.

[NoelsMommy]

strange

I googled all the info and got nothing, as well.

Murder of Gwen by Richard Bishop 76 years old is all I can get from that site. Her family lives in Blairesville.

I'll bet the citizen's of Blairesville are locking their doors tonight. Such a shame, as it is a beautiful and peaceful area.


Here's the link...if it doesn't work, just go to the homepage and on the left hand side click on archives, then the August 19 edition front page. I guess being a small hometown paper, they couldn't get it in the 8/12 edition.

http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=150657&MemberID=1281

[just42day97]

http://www.nganews.com


I'm not sure how to post the link maybe this will work, a man killed his care taker the same night Kristi was abducted the murder was also on Jones Creek you can read it on the nganews.com web site in the archives the chase was also on Jones Creek it too is on the same front page as Kristi's abduction.

thanks for that link..you did good!
Here is a link to the story of the murder and kristi

http://media.iadsnetwork.com/contentitempdf/pdfs/69000/69566.pdf#Search="murder"

[doradoll]

http://www.nganews.com


I'm not sure how to post the link maybe this will work, a man killed his care taker the same night Kristi was abducted the murder was also on Jones Creek you can read it on the nganews.com web site in the archives the chase was also on Jones Creek it too is on the same front page as Kristi's abduction.

Wow, and he has already been sentenced. That's my kind of justice.

also, I love the format of your small town newspaper!

so sorry your area is getting hit so hard right now

I have visited and loved it there.

What is the local scoop on Kristi?

[just42day97]

looks like my link didn't do right in my above post...
I try to edit it....well I just went to the main page and went to search and typed in murder..and it took me to the page I am refering to

[lune3]

Hi Seemsodd and welcome to the board!

I suppose that's why the GBI was in the area the night Kristi disappeared, i.e.because of the murder and high speed chase.

Do you know the distance between where the murder and chase took place and where Kristi's abduction occurred?

Were the vehicles involved in the murder and chase similar to those described in the area where Kristi was walking?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

I'd like to the answers to those questions too.

Very strange that an abductor would take such a chance if police were around that night.

[doctor_J]

<snipped> Hi ya Doc J- with adults, I can't think of any off the top of my head that ended well (other than those that had faked their own) but with kids, yeah a few- Elizabeth Smart, Shasta Groene, Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck, all taken by strangers.

Hi Postergeist (every time I see your nic I think "they're baaacckkk", from the Poltergeist movie, lol)

Hard to believe this one, huh She's just not in the profile of someone likely to be kidnapped. Neither is the location. So bizarre. Family seems so not-dysfunctional. No domestic abuse with exes. Nothing. Just goes to show, evil can strike anyone.

For some reason, reading n/t link that says she DID NOT register for the fall session makes me hopeful she staged this. Don't see how though. If she was contemplating an escape she might not register. Probably just waiting till last minute.

[just42day97]

Wow, and he has already been sentenced. That's my kind of justice.

also, I love the format of your small town newspaper!

so sorry your area is getting hit so hard right now

I have visited and loved it there.

What is the local scoop on Kristi?


looks like the murder happened around midnight...which would mean just a few hours after Kristi went missing...

[seemsodd]

Hi Seemsodd and welcome to the board!

I suppose that's why the GBI was in the area the night Kristi disappeared, i.e.because of the murder and high speed chase.

Do you know the distance between where the murder and chase took place and where Kristi's abduction occurred?

Were the vehicles involved in the murder and chase similar to those described in the area where Kristi was walking?

Thanks in advance for your reply!



I like you have only heard second/third hand info nobody is talking up here so far they have searched under a bridge on Canal lake, they didn't say what for nothing was found at least that's what our news report is saying. The road she was walking on was just off 515 our main route to Atlanta but the cell phone (that's what our paper is saying was found not a bluetooth) was found on 325 from Jones creek you come out on 515 go about 1/2 mile turn left on 325 (this road is in front of the only store/gas station on 515 for several miles in either direction this road goes thru a fairly isolated area most of the land is in large acreage owned by families. I'm not sure what cell carrier Kristi had (Att or Verizon) my verizon has good service thru all of this area, this road comes out on canal lake road.

It gets dark up here around 8:45 really dark by 9:00 we have allot of snakes, bears coyote's etc... that would have been my only fear walking at night.

[RainyNiteNTx]

They said they RULED OUT Susan Smith??? I thought they kept interrogating her until she folded?

they did keep interviewing her, all the while leading her to believe that they believed her story. They kept her feeling warm and fuzzy until they arrested her. Thats all I'm saying on this as CW might frown upon it.

[Hey Paula]

I'd like to the answers to those questions too.

Very strange that an abductor would take such a chance if police were around that night.

ITA re an abductor taking Kristi with LE in the area, especially since the murder/chase also occurred on Jones Creek Rd, per the poster Seemsodd.

[ginky41]

I like you have only heard second/third hand info nobody is talking up here so far they have searched under a bridge on Canal lake, they didn't say what for nothing was found at least that's what our news report is saying. The road she was walking on was just off 515 our main route to Atlanta but the cell phone (that's what our paper is saying was found not a bluetooth) was found on 325 from Jones creek you come out on 515 go about 1/2 mile turn left on 325 (this road is in front of the only store/gas station on 515 for several miles in either direction this road goes thru a fairly isolated area most of the land is in large acreage owned by families. I'm not sure what cell carrier Kristi had (Att or Verizon) my verizon has good service thru all of this area, this road comes out on canal lake road.

It gets dark up here around 8:45 really dark by 9:00 we have allot of snakes, bears coyote's etc... that would have been my only fear walking at night.

Well, we know that a neighbor found her phone a few days after she went missing, while he was mowing the lawn. A couple people posted that there was a bluetooth found where the site of the struggle was but I have never seen that in print.

[lune3]

ITA re an abductor taking Kristi with LE in the area, especially since the murder/chase also occurred on Jones Creek Rd, per the poster Seemsodd.

It now appears though that the murder took place after Kristi was abducted. The perp(s) had three hours to get out of there.
In fact it makes it more likely she was taken away from the area since if LE was there after midnight, the perp wouldn't want to stay around. On the other hand, it's possible Kristi was killed within that three hours close by before the perp hightailed it out of there.

[Hey Paula]

I like you have only heard second/third hand info nobody is talking up here so far they have searched under a bridge on Canal lake, they didn't say what for nothing was found at least that's what our news report is saying. The road she was walking on was just off 515 our main route to Atlanta but the cell phone (that's what our paper is saying was found not a bluetooth) was found on 325 from Jones creek you come out on 515 go about 1/2 mile turn left on 325 (this road is in front of the only store/gas station on 515 for several miles in either direction this road goes thru a fairly isolated area most of the land is in large acreage owned by families. I'm not sure what cell carrier Kristi had (Att or Verizon) my verizon has good service thru all of this area, this road comes out on canal lake road.

It gets dark up here around 8:45 really dark by 9:00 we have allot of snakes, bears coyote's etc... that would have been my only fear walking at night.

Thanks for your reply!

Is Canal Lake large? Do you know if LE is planning to search/drain the lake?

I don't blame you for being afraid to walk there at night! I surely wouldn't!

[KittyMom]

After reading the ajc article, it almost seems as though LE is back to a stranger abduction.

[doradoll]

Seemsodd,

Is Jones Creek Road used as a short cut from any larger area to another? If someone was to have to travel to a larger area for work, would they use this road to get anywhere other than that neighborhood? Is there much traffic that is more than locals?

I googled it and it looks SO wooded there. A needle in a haystack.

[Postergeist]

Hi Postergeist (every time I see your nic I think "they're baaacckkk", from the Poltergeist movie, lol)

Hard to believe this one, huh She's just not in the profile of someone likely to be kidnapped. Neither is the location. So bizarre. Family seems so not-dysfunctional. No domestic abuse with exes. Nothing. Just goes to show, evil can strike anyone.

For some reason, reading n/t link that says she DID NOT register for the fall session makes me hopeful she staged this. Don't see how though. If she was contemplating an escape she might not register. Probably just waiting till last minute.

lol, you don't have to type out my whole nic, Postie/Poster will do, saves on time.

I agree with you about not fitting into the profile or "type", one of my board buddies and I were discussing this earlier. The college angle, boy that brings back the rash of students we had listed last year that turned up missing (most were of their own accord).

I would assume LE is keeping an eye out on any bank transactions, credit cards, etc.

[Ice Cycle]

I think many will agree that this is confirmation that Doug Davis is not involved nor are her ex husbands.

Evening All, Well this is one that I never thought he was as a few others similar. Just too out there to think he would hire someone to do it since they have proved he was in Atlanta.
See their is nothing much new, LE has certainly been closed lipped about this one's details.

[KittyMom]

http://www.blairsvillechamber.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=93

Aug 15 1st Annual Meredith Emerson Remembrance Walk & Festival

Union County held this event at the time that Kristi was being searched for. Is it possible that there is a copy-cat out there? hmmmm

[seemsodd]

I haven't seen or heard anything up here since the GBI pulled out I don't know of any searches going on by local LE I know some of the local people are searching on their own but that's about it.
That's what's so strange about this situation it's like LE knows something more than we do you feel like something big is about to happen you just don't know what kind of a feeling nothing I know for sure. The FBI took Kristi's computer hard drive, the Father said not to meet strangers you talk to on the internet... I think they know allot more than they are telling anyone.

[Ice Cycle]

I haven't seen or heard anything up here since the GBI pulled out I don't know of any searches going on by local LE I know some of the local people are searching on their own but that's about it.
That's what's so strange about this situation it's like LE knows something more than we do you feel like something big is about to happen you just don't know what kind of a feeling nothing I know for sure. The FBI took Kristi's computer hard drive, the Father said not to meet strangers you talk to on the internet... I think they know allot more than they are telling anyone.

Possibly she was chatting with someone else online and they are trying to track them down. Since she seemed to be a past heavy dater it is possible she was also communicating with another besides DD. BTW, Welcome.

[seemsodd]

Seemsodd,

Is Jones Creek Road used as a short cut from any larger area to another? If someone was to have to travel to a larger area for work, would they use this road to get anywhere other than that neighborhood? Is there much traffic that is more than locals?

I googled it and it looks SO wooded there. A needle in a haystack.


Jones creek makes a large circle thru a neighborhood of open farm land there are several homes on this road also nothing else, no stores no sidewalks, no street lights nothing but a 2 lane road and darkness for about 3 miles it comes out on blue ridge hwy which is also a 2 lane road. There are several neighbors in that area where her parents live.

[Mr FATE]

davis: Well, it`s a daily prayer devotional. "my utmost for his highest" by oswald chambers. I got back in town early part of the week and went to get my mail after being gone for several days. i remember driving to the post office thinking, you know, there just might be something and then of course i shut that down saying, i don`t want to be disappointed.

And sure enough, though, when i opened up the box there it this gift was. i had not expected it. But, you know, it`s like kristi is reaching out to me even now. She`s used this devotional for several years and wanted me to have it feeling like it would really be a help to my life and i`ve been reading it every day.

i don`t let it out of my sight. It`s such a treasured gift. And this is who kristi was. She liked to give. She really enjoyed life. She`s a very intelligent woman and a loving mother. A dear sister to her brother, richard. She loved her mom and her dad. Her family.

And she had some dearest friends and all of blairsville will tell you that this woman here is just a remarkable woman. If you didn`t like kristi well, that was your fault because she loved you. This is who i fell in love with, and we had made our plans and to spend time together.

Our future was being planned together. And i look forward to the day where she`s coming home. We`re going to find her alive and she and i will continue our relationship together.

davis: well, you`re just suspended in time. It`s like for once -- you`re holding right here. you can`t go forward, and you don`t know what the next step is. Of course, every phone call, you`re hoping that is the call. Today i was on an airplane coming back from new york for 2 1/2 hours, and the biggest fear was arriving and [color="blue"]a message be there and you didn`t know which way it would be[/color. And it was -- just those kind of situations is just, it`s just all i can do to bear it some days.

But i`m grateful that i have my lord as my protector in this. i don`t know how anybody without hope in jesus christ could get through an ordeal like this

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comments?

[doradoll]

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comments?

yes, what is your idea on theory and motive for this angle?

[Hey Paula]

It now appears though that the murder took place after Kristi was abducted. The perp(s) had three hours to get out of there.
In fact it makes it more likely she was taken away from the area since if LE was there after midnight, the perp wouldn't want to stay around. On the other hand, it's possible Kristi was killed within that three hours close by before the perp hightailed it out of there.

In this article it states GBI were in the area working on another case and converged upon the area where Kristi was kidnapped. I assumed it was the murder/chase case . http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html

I agree with you that the perp, if not a resident of the area, likely got out of there quickly. I'm surprised an Amber alert wasn't employed.

[doctor_J]

lol, you don't have to type out my whole nic, Postie/Poster will do, saves on time.

I agree with you about not fitting into the profile or "type", one of my board buddies and I were discussing this earlier. The college angle, boy that brings back the rash of students we had listed last year that turned up missing (most were of their own accord).

I would assume LE is keeping an eye out on any bank transactions, credit cards, etc.

That's a relief. I'm the world's worst typist. Don't we have another Postie though?? Maybe it was just someone referring to you. I know you're one of the ones I feel like I know from other boards, I mean threads.

[Postergeist]

I agree with you that the perp, if not a resident of the area, likely got out of there quickly. I'm surprised an Amber alert wasn't employed.


<snipped> an Amber alert wouldn't be issued for an adult

http://www.amberalert.gov/guidelines.htm

if she met the qualifications for a Silver Alert or was a person with special needs, diminished mental capacity, etc. they could've issued a state-wide alert under those specs.

[Hey Paula]

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comments?

Strange talk. It seems like it's all about him. He speaks of Kristi as if she's gone/deceased, continually referring to her in the past tense.

IMO

[Hey Paula]

<snipped> an Amber alert wouldn't be issued for an adult

http://www.amberalert.gov/guidelines.htm

if she met the qualifications for a Silver Alert or was a person with special needs, diminished mental capacity, etc. they could've issued a state-wide alert under those specs.

Some States use Amber alerts for adults too. I don't know if GA is one of them.

[Mr FATE]

yes, what is your idea on theory and motive for this angle?

currently I am waiting for the remained of the "don't take me" phone call to be revealed... and it will be at sometime.

That phone call is the most important factor to date.

people have been killed over a dollar.

No one gets a free pass from me.

[Mr FATE]

Strange talk. It seems like it's all about him. He speaks of her like she's gone/deceased, continually referring to her in the past tense.

IMO


others have noticed that too - sorry the format didn't come out perfect.

[fins2thright]

I have to be honest and this is my opinion.

Mr Davis's own actions and words have left me with no other explanation then to be suspicious of him.

The phone(s) calls are very very odd and unexplainable. He can't go on TV night after night and try to undo his actions with words. It's not gonna happen for me.

As everyone knows - he didn't call 911 immediately and that's a huge problem for me especially after he has repeatedly stated that he is planning a future with Kristi. I would wonder how long the future was going to be and there is no one who has stepped forward and said Kristi told me she was crazy about this man and intended to marry him.

He calls the Cornwells and has Kristi's mom call 911. Did he do this so the light of suspicion was not glaring on him the instant he "knew" Kristi was "abducted"? In a sense to cover himself.

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-jmo-

I hate to be course here, but several folks on this board have rendered a very simple and logical explanation as to why DD called the parents during the abduction after apparently trying to call 911 in Atlanta. I am not sure what you don't understand about the 911 system, but it is clear to me at least that 911 simply does not work effectively when you are on a cell phone and out of the area of the actual crime. When you call 911, you get connected to the police in YOUR local cell phone area, NOT in the area of the crime if it is remote. And the process of explaining to your local police that there is a crime going on in another jurisdiction, and then having them connect you to the correct police department, and then explaining the whole thing again IF you get properly connected, is not effective.

I don't know DD from Adam and I could care less if he is innocent or guilty. But I do know that if I were in Atlanta and I knew that someone 90 minutes away from me were being victimized, I would also call someone in their local area if I could and tell them to call 911 in their area, and/or to go check on that person who is being victimized personally. I simply don't get what you think is wrong with that strategy? Your unfounded faith in long distance 911 is either designed to distract folks from the facts of the case, or a simple case of ignorance of the limits of technology. So let me say it simply - 911 is a local service. It is not a national network. It works only locally. If you are not local to the crime, your 911 call will be a bureaucratic nightmare. Hopefully, that is simple enough for anyone to understand.

Regardless of how we feel about DD as a person, or his forthrightness or candor, can't we all simply agree that in the case of calling the parents, DD was trying to act immediately and directly to stop the abduction that was taking place literally in front of the parents home, and that in his mind the parents would have had a much faster response from local Blairsville 911 than DD would have had calling Atlanta 911 and having them relay the issue to the Local LE in Blairsville? IMO, we can question a lot of things that DD has said and done with respect to this case, but his motives in calling the parents vs. Atlanta 911 are simply not one of them.

[Postergeist]

That's a relief. I'm the world's worst typist. Don't we have another Postie though?? Maybe it was just someone referring to you. I know you're one of the ones I feel like I know from other boards, I mean threads.

nope, I'm the orig. and only Postie here, lol (there are a few that have used Poster in their nic after me, some don't last long)

It's always good to "see" you on other threads & forums here- you bring a wonderful, common sense aspect to the board.

Ice Cycle makes a good point that Kristi may have been chatting with several people on that site, and possibly others.

Hopefully LE will get some good leads thru her online history.

If she had a habit of posting all her business, ie. 'going for a walk now, heading to the store' and she'd already let others know her location at the time...someone with a bad interest in her could then follow her.

Not sure how that site works, if lurkers are allowed to view or not. So it may not be someone she's familiar with, but who is familiar with her due to her online activities.

[Mr FATE]

I hate to be course here, but several folks on this board have rendered a very simple and logical explanation as to why DD called the parents during the abduction after apparently trying to call 911 in Atlanta. I am not sure what you don't understand about the 911 system, but it is clear to me at least that 911 simply does not work effectively when you are on a cell phone and out of the area of the actual crime. When you call 911, you get connected to the police in YOUR local cell phone area, NOT in the area of the crime if it is remote. And the process of explaining to your local police that there is a crime going on in another jurisdiction, and then having them connect you to the correct police department, and then explaining the whole thing again IF you get properly connected, is not effective.

I don't know DD from Adam and I could care less if he is innocent or guilty. But I do know that if I were in Atlanta and I knew that someone 90 minutes away from me were being victimized, I would also call someone in their local area if I could and tell them to call 911 in their area, and/or to go check on that person who is being victimized personally. I simply don't get what you think is wrong with that strategy? Your unfounded faith in long distance 911 is either designed to distract folks from the facts of the case, or a simple case of ignorance of the limits of technology. So let me say it simply - 911 is a local service. It is not a national network. It works only locally. If you are not local to the crime, your 911 call will be a bureaucratic nightmare. Hopefully, that is simple enough for anyone to understand.

Regardless of how we feel about DD as a person, or his forthrightness or candor, can't we all simply agree that in the case of calling the parents, DD was trying to act immediately and directly to stop the abduction that was taking place literally in front of the parents home, and that in his mind the parents would have had a much faster response from local Blairsville 911 than DD would have had calling Atlanta 911 and having them relay the issue to the Local LE in Blairsville? IMO, we can question a lot of things that DD has said and done with respect to this case, but his motives in calling the parents vs. Atlanta 911 are simply not one of them.

I'm sorry you didn't read ahead - the police were in the area. But I appreciate your response.

[Postergeist]

Some States use Amber alerts for adults too. I don't know if GA is one of them.

If they do, they are not following the DOJ guidelines and protocol that the person is 17 years or younger.

However, a BOLO could certainly have been issued, if they had some good info on the vehicle.

[doradoll]

currently I am waiting for the remained of the "don't take me" phone call to be revealed... and it will be at sometime.

That phone call is the most important factor to date.

people have been killed over a dollar.

No one gets a free pass from me.

But what do you think HIS motive would be??

[fins2thright]

++++++

comments?

The interesting thing to me about DDs comments regarding Kristi lately is that it indicates who was the more aggressive person in the relationship. I surmise this from his comments:

1) Kristi sent him the devotional book. He has never said that he ever gave her a gift in their short relationship. Which is odd because usually men give gifts to women early in a relationship, not the other way around. Maybe that is old fashioned thinking, I don't know.

2) Kristi called him in Atlanta first on the night of her abduction. He, in fact, told her he had to call her back because he was busy having dinner with someone unknown to us. As someone else pointed out, this is odd behavior for someone in a new relationship.

These two facts indicate to me that maybe Kristi was pursuing DD, not the opposite. Which is interesting to me because now DD is making a big deal about how much he loved her. My sixth sense tells me that he wasn't nearly as in love with her as he says, at least not until she disappeared. I think at the very least, DD is leveraging the situation to aggrandize himself as a man and as a minister.

[seemsodd]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

[NoelsMommy]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

Finally, some interesting information. Are there hotels/motels in that area where some of the workers from out of town might be staying?

[Mr FATE]

But what do you think HIS motive would be??

not every crime needs a motive contrary to belief.

However, I am not sure he is involved or not involved. I am undecided and formulating my opinion.

a love relationship - would need a motive... and I have seen some pretty bizarre stuff over the years. I will wait and see.

[Ice Cycle]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

Well someone had mentioned in a earlier post that their was a either a grocery or station close by where she was walking, is it possible the picture was taken from either of those?

[ttcRider]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

Thats very interesting information Odd, thanks. Welcome to the board, I am the resident witch hunter by the way. :sneaky: :ohmy:

[Postergeist]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

hmm, interesting piece of info here seemsodd. So, has it been released what Kristi's activities were the day of her disappearance, what stores she went to, gas stations?

All those out of town crews- wow! (but I won't bring up other cases that I can recall with that, but many will remember some)

[seemsodd]

Finally, some interesting information. Are there hotels/motels in that area where some of the workers from out of town might be staying?



We have 3 hotels seasons inn, a best western and days inn.

[Ice Cycle]

I'm not sure what day in the investigation but LE had a blurry photo of someone they were showing to people that came thru the road block asking them if they had seen that person in the area, that doesn't make sense to me unless they know more than they are telling us I believe one of my co-workers said it looked like a pic. from a store camera or something but you could tell what the person looked like I didn't go thru the road check so I didn't see the photo.

Right now we have a super ingles being built by an out of town crew, a Dollar store by an out of town crew, a school gym by an out of town crew not to mention all the tourists... why would that one person jump out at LE when so many strangers are up here?

It is also possible they traced her steps earlier that day and surely her cell phone records, to see who she spoke with.

[Unleashed]

Thanks for making yet another excuse why 911 shouldn't be called.

Presumably the new tip to AMW came from NC all the way to Los Angelos. That didn't stop anyone and GOT THE BALL ROLLING.

But thanks for explaining your naïveté ....

if the basic premise of calling 911 is not registering on you - I'm sorry, there's probably not much hope for you.

Hi, all. I'm a new poster on this thread, mind if I butt in? I just spent most of the day catching up :blink:, you guys have been busy!

Would most people even stop to think of the possibility that 911 service wasn't available, or perhaps not the fastest way to get help? It has been ingrained in most of us that if there is an emergency, you dial 911. Immediately. No matter where I was, city, country, mountains, I would never dream that was not the best way to summon help.

jmo

[seemsodd]

Well someone had mentioned in a earlier post that their was a either a grocery or station close by where she was walking, is it possible the picture was taken from either of those?



The store wasn't close by it was at the begining of 325 where the phone was found about 3 miles away that's why it seems so odd to me. I don't know where the photo was taken as I said I didn't see it.

[Postergeist]

Thats very interesting information Odd, thanks. Welcome to the board, I am the resident witch hunter by the way. :sneaky: :ohmy:

hi ya tcc- umm, I hope witchy doesn't get wind of this! :tonguewag:


Maybe this photo (sounds like a surv. cam shot) will be what helps break this case.

[NoelsMommy]

I just can't believe that NG hasn't been after this like a dog with a bone. She's from GA and considering there's hardly any information out there about what happened, I'd think she'd have a crew up there questioning all the locals and getting the down and dirty.

I wonder if the picture they were showing at the roadblock was taken before or after the abduction. The perp could have stopped for a soda or cigarettes and if it were a crime of opportunity, he/she wouldn't have been expecting to run upon Kristi.

[doradoll]

not every crime needs a motive contrary to belief.

However, I am not sure he is involved or not involved. I am undecided and formulating my opinion.

a love relationship - would need a motive... and I have seen some pretty bizarre stuff over the years. I will wait and see.



So, you think it is possible that a boyfriend of 6 weeks could abduct or arrange an abduction of his new girlfriend without a motive?

What do you think about the GBI clearing him?

[seemsodd]

we have 911 and the area where Kristi was walking is way out of town I would guess at least 7 or 8 miles.

[NoelsMommy]

We have 3 hotels seasons inn, a best western and days inn.

I'm sure LE has checked those all out as well as who's staying at them and the vehicles that they drive. I'm guessing even if someone staying at one of the hotels did it, they wouldn't take her back there. It'd be too risky.

To be so small, Blairsville, GA sounds like a busy little town. :smile:

[ttcRider]

Hi, all. I'm a new poster on this thread, mind if I butt in? I just spent most of the day catching up :blink:, you guys have been busy!

Would most people even stop to think of the possibility that 911 service wasn't available, or perhaps not the fastest way to get help? It has been ingrained in most of us that if there is an emergency, you dial 911. Immediately. No matter where I was, city, country, mountains, I would never dream that was not the best way to summon help.

jmo

thats what we keep coming up with too.
:wub: good to see you pal!

[NoelsMommy]

The store wasn't close by it was at the begining of 325 where the phone was found about 3 miles away that's why it seems so odd to me. I don't know where the photo was taken as I said I didn't see it.

It's possible the person who took Kristi used the same route into town that he/she used to leave. Like I said, maybe he/she stopped by that store for something on the way in and if it was a random abduction, they wouldn't have been thinking about cameras catching their visit.

I wonder if all the storeowners have been interviewed. I'm sure they have.

[fins2thright]

Hi, all. I'm a new poster on this thread, mind if I butt in? I just spent most of the day catching up :blink:, you guys have been busy!

Would most people even stop to think of the possibility that 911 service wasn't available, or perhaps not the fastest way to get help? It has been ingrained in most of us that if there is an emergency, you dial 911. Immediately. No matter where I was, city, country, mountains, I would never dream that was not the best way to summon help.

jmo

Welcome to the board. I am also a new poster and I just finished posting on this topic. And I have to say that this is a subjective argument, but I respectfully disagree. I live in the country, way out in the country, just like Kristi. And my neighbors and I know that law enforcement in our area is 10-15 minutes away. We just know this from the time we are little. So we rely on each other. We call each other in an emergency, not 911, not first. And so I can see, again subjectively, that if I were on a business trip and on the phone with my daughter and she said, "I'm in our neighborhood and I'm being abducted" that I would probably first call my father or father-in-law to go outside and try to rescue her because I know by the time the cops get there she is going to be long gone. So again it's subjective, but there is room for argument here. I think city folks might see the world differently from folks like us who live way out in the country. It's a different mindset when you HAVE to rely on your family and neighbors first. AND I promise this is my last post on this topic because it is, after all, JMO. :smile:

[Mr FATE]

Hi, all. I'm a new poster on this thread, mind if I butt in? I just spent most of the day catching up :blink:, you guys have been busy!

Would most people even stop to think of the possibility that 911 service wasn't available, or perhaps not the fastest way to get help? It has been ingrained in most of us that if there is an emergency, you dial 911. Immediately. No matter where I was, city, country, mountains, I would never dream that was not the best way to summon help.

jmo


Unleashed - conversely - if the 911 is sooooo bad - how can we trust that Mr Davis was triangulated to 2 hours away - seems technology is lacking down there - according to some.

[ttcRider]

Welcome to the board. I am also a new poster and I just finished posting on this topic. And I have to say that this is a subjective argument, but I respectfully disagree. I live in the country, way out in the country, just like Kristi. And my neighbors and I know that law enforcement in our area is 10-15 minutes away. We just know this from the time we are little. So we rely on each other. We call each other in an emergency, not 911, not first. And so I can see, again subjectively, that if I were on a business trip and on the phone with my daughter and she said, "I'm in our neighborhood and I'm being abducted" that I would probably first call my father or father-in-law to go outside and try to rescue her because I know by the time the cops get there she is going to be long gone. So again it's subjective, but there is room for argument here. I think city folks might see the world differently from folks like us who live way out in the country. It's a different mindset when you HAVE to rely on your family and neighbors first. AND I promise this is my last post on this topic because it is, after all, JMO. :smile:

I live in a big city and it probably would take 10-15 minutes for the cops to show up here too! But we do have 911! :thumbup:
I think the firemen show up first....:drool:

[Mr FATE]

So, you think it is possible that a boyfriend of 6 weeks could abduct or arrange an abduction of his new girlfriend without a motive?

What do you think about the GBI clearing him?

no one cleared anyone - stop propagating that.

[fins2thright]

I live in a big city and it probably would take 10-15 minutes for the cops to show up here too! But we do have 911! :thumbup:
I think the firemen show up first....:drool:

The real issue we have out here in the country is that the cows are so lousy on the witness stand.:biggrin:

[doradoll]

thats what we keep coming up with too.
:wub: good to see you pal!


Case scenario:

You call your nephew, who lives hundreds of miles away, to wish him Happy Birthday. He is on his cell phone and tells you that he is riding his new bike in the neighborhood. He tells you his Mom, your sister, is at home cleaning up the party mess. Suddenly, you hear a commotion and he yells "NO! Don't take me". What do your local 911, or call your sister, who would undoubtedly grab her phone, calling 911 and screaming her son's name?

[ttcRider]

The real issue we have out here in the country is that the cows are so lousy on the witness stand.:biggrin:

Theres nothing worse than a snitching cow! :w00t:

[doctor_J]

fins2thright --- just want to say BRAVO to the 911 post but it's a losing battle. Apparently unless you've lived without it to provide instantaneous service you cannot get the concept of having to figure out a way to help yourself.

[ttcRider]

Case scenario:

You call your nephew, who lives hundreds of miles away, to wish him Happy Birthday. He is on his cell phone and tells you that he is riding his new bike in the neighborhood. He tells you his Mom, your sister, is at home cleaning up the party mess. Suddenly, you hear a commotion and he yells "NO! Don't take me". What do your local 911, or call your sister, who would undoubtedly grab her phone, calling 911 and screaming her son's name?

I honestly have to say 'call 911'. This couldnt be an uncommon occurance, how would anyone know who has 911 and who doesnt??

[Unleashed]

Although.......if he immediately used someone else's cellphone to phone 911 or Kristi's mom, one could surmise that there was another person nearby who may have heard/be able to corroborate his side of the conversation. We still don't know who that was. :confused: Not that it's necessarily important *who* but certainly someone who was with him could back him up. Make sense?

Makes perfect sense to me, ginky41. I wonder where the other person is to confirm this detail. It's fairly significant.

jmo

[fins2thright]

fins2thright --- just want to say BRAVO to the 911 post but it's a losing battle. Apparently unless you've lived without it to provide instantaneous service you cannot get the concept of having to figure out a way to help yourself.

Thanks. Just trying to separate the logical arguments from the unfounded bias. Apparently unsuccessfully.:wink:

[doradoll]

Found another article with a few answers to some of our questions.

http://www.ajc.com/news/mystery-of-missing-blairsville-123729.html



For those that haven't read up post about the GBI spokesman saying they have ruled out past husbands and the bf

[ttcRider]

just have to ask... what happens when you dial 911 in your area if you dont have 911?? 'cannot be completed as dialed..'?? :confused::confused: Please hang up and try your call again.

[doctor_J]

For those that haven't read up post about the GBI spokesman saying they have ruled out past husbands and the bf

This is a very significant development. The GBI would make no comment at all rather than state someone has been cleared that could still have done it. Mostly that's what they do, say nothing.

[ginky41]

no one cleared anyone - stop propagating that.

The one ajc.com article posted a few pages back said the GBI did clear him. I believe it was the article that n/t posted....

Going back now to look...

[Mr FATE]

I honestly have to say 'call 911'. This couldnt be an uncommon occurance, how would anyone know who has 911 and who doesnt??


doradoll mixed apples and oranges and I'm not sure what that made.

tccRider obviously understands you call 911 to log a "call report" and get the ball rolling - you don't call mom and pop.

my house is on fire - I think I should call my mom. LOL

my cats in the tree - I better call the my hairstylist.

[ginky41]

http://www.ajc.com/news/faith-helps-family-of-123729.html

Near the bottom it says:
The GBI has ruled out Davis and Cornwell’s ex-husbands as suspects, said GBI spokesman John Bankhead. Investigators interviewed sex offenders and checked into convicts Cornwell supervised as a probation officer but found no leads, Bankhead said.

Still, I wonder if that could be an LE tactic. Not saying that I think DD is to blame -- I haven't formed an opinion yet -- but it's still a possibility, right?

[HALE 2d GNAW]

http://www.ajc.com/news/faith-helps-family-of-123729.html

Near the bottom it says:
The GBI has ruled out Davis and Cornwell’s ex-husbands as suspects, said GBI spokesman John Bankhead. Investigators interviewed sex offenders and checked into convicts Cornwell supervised as a probation officer but found no leads, Bankhead said.

Still, I wonder if that could be an LE tactic. Not saying that I think DD is to blame -- I haven't formed an opinion yet -- but it's still a possibility, right?

That is not a direct quote from Bankhead. There are no quotes around the words so they are the reporter's, not GBI. I think some reporter just put that down in the first days and everyone keeps reprinting it.

[just42day97]

just have to ask... what happens when you dial 911 in your area if you dont have 911?? 'cannot be completed as dialed..'?? :confused::confused: Please hang up and try your call again.

This is what happened with me in my area...I moved back to MS. but still had a TN cell phone...I called 911 cause it appeared that someone was breaking into the ppl's house next door...It went to my old local 911 county...(which was TN.) they gave me a choice, they could "patch" me thru to my new local 911 or they would call the local 911 themselves...by that time, I relized the ppl next door that I thought was breaking in was painting the house...so I said oh never mind...lol But that is what happened with me

[HALE 2d GNAW]

The one ajc.com article posted a few pages back said the GBI did clear him. I believe it was the article that n/t posted....

Going back now to look...

That is not true. None of those articles have a direct quote from there.

[doradoll]

I honestly have to say 'call 911'. This couldnt be an uncommon occurance, how would anyone know who has 911 and who doesnt??


Most places do have 911. But when you are dialing from another state or county, they have to transfer you. I would think that if you had a family member that could run to the scene and call their local 911, it could save a life. While you are being transferred from one agency to another, repeating your problem twice (or more), your sister could already be at the scene.

[Mr FATE]

For those that haven't read up post about the GBI spokesman saying they have ruled out past husbands and the bf

I KNOW you realize and have been around these cases long enough to know there has been no follow-up press conferences on this issue nor anyone from the FBI that has made any such statements pertaining to such a fact.

no one is cleared until an arrest is made or dna is found at a crime scene unrelated to a known person in the case.

I'll repeat this again - it's not against the law for the police or federal / state investigators to lie to a suspect / witness / or POI or to the public to get the responsible party.

Just for the record - the GBI didn't do such a terrific job in Tara Grindsted's cases. That's my opinion and the opinion of many others - but I am speaking for myself.