View Full Version : Reform Supporters Outnumber Critics At Town Halls
daniel green
08-18-2009, 05:34 PM
In Phoenix, Arizona, "Pro-Obama demonstrators appeared to outnumber the anti-Obama ones, with Phoenix police estimating the crowd at 1,200to 2,000 at locations around the convention center." In Boulder, Colorado, "a few hundred residents of one of the nation's more liberal congressional districts turned out Monday night to tell their congressman, Democratic Rep. Jared Polis, to keep that public option, however controversial politically, in the final bill."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/reform-supporters-outnumb_n_262425.html
ortiga
08-18-2009, 05:51 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/reform-supporters-outnumb_n_262425.html
That doesn't surprise me DG. Many people are just not so inclined to yell and shout and say horrible things at the top of their lungs at a public meeting, before they have even had the program presented to them. That's was bothers me the most, that people can be so vocal and disruptive against something that they haven't had explained to them, because the bills are preliminary. Also, many of the protests don't seem to have much to do with health care at all.
I don't understand the position that there is not a problem with health care insurance.
I learned more from Obama in Colorado than I have from any of the protestors.
IMO
MiamiNice1
08-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Key word = "appeared." MO
.....and they found ONE.......:laugh:......in the most liberal.....
imo
Carol25
08-18-2009, 06:09 PM
If there were more supporters of the reform bill, Obama wouldn't have even suggested dropping the public option. He is just trying to save this bill from being dropped entirely.
He saw the lack of support he had and acted to increase the support. JMO
ortiga
08-18-2009, 06:17 PM
If there were more supporters of the reform bill, Obama wouldn't have even suggested dropping the public option. He is just trying to save this bill from being dropped entirely.
He saw the lack of support he had and acted to increase the support. JMO
I think that many people are waiting for more details, they are not raging vocally at public meetings at something that hasn't been explained. I think most people realize that there is a huge problem with the distribution of health care in this country. I think few people know what a public option is, I sure don't understand it the way I wish I did.
The people acting outlandishly, carrying guns, using the Nazi signs, screaming in public meetings practically incoherently, screaming NO NO NO without any explanation of what they are against, except possibly everything, with one saying that her small baby will face an Obama death panel, these are the people who captivated the media but I think the tide is changing now, and some of us who want more explanation, who realize that there is a huge problem that needs to be solved, some of us are waiting and watching and supporting the president.
IMO
daniel green
08-18-2009, 06:25 PM
That doesn't surprise me DG. Many people are just not so inclined to yell and shout and say horrible things at the top of their lungs at a public meeting, before they have even had the program presented to them. That's was bothers me the most, that people can be so vocal and disruptive against something that they haven't had explained to them, because the bills are preliminary. Also, many of the protests don't seem to have much to do with health care at all.
I don't understand the position that there is not a problem with health care insurance.
I learned more from Obama in Colorado than I have from any of the protestors.
IMO
Same here. I learned more from listening to him in CO than from all my reading about it.
And I can see where supporters of health care reform are going to continue growing at these events.
desmom
08-18-2009, 07:00 PM
Mad Over Health Care Reform, or Something Else?
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=8323841&page=1
ortiga
08-18-2009, 07:52 PM
IF people were yelling and shouting, they would have called the cops to clear them out. The First Amendment quarantees the right of the People to assemble peacefully and the right of free speech. What bothers me is trying to cut out that right. The Amendment does not address the subject matter of that Free Speech. That Mob Shouting thing is not playing in my opinion and we do have our own eyes and ears observing the situation. I did laugh when the AARP staffer not only closed the meeting but picked up her toy (the Mic) and went home. That's funny.
ABC, are you serious in saying "IF people were yelling and shouting"?
IF?
desmom
08-18-2009, 08:25 PM
That doesn't surprise me DG. Many people are just not so inclined to yell and shout and say horrible things at the top of their lungs at a public meeting, before they have even had the program presented to them. That's was bothers me the most, that people can be so vocal and disruptive against something that they haven't had explained to them, because the bills are preliminary. Also, many of the protests don't seem to have much to do with health care at all.
I don't understand the position that there is not a problem with health care insurance.
I learned more from Obama in Colorado than I have from any of the protestors.
IMO
bolding mine! Exactly everything is still in the works.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/18/obama.clinton.health.care/index.html
Clinton presented Congress with a plan, whereas Obama instead presented broad guidelines and asked the lawmakers to come up with a bill.
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