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Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:04 PM

I think that by the time this goes to trial we will see G&C switch sides and stand behind the prosecutors. They know by now if they ride the Casey is innocent story to the end they will never recover enough credibility to keep riding the Caylee gravy train. I'm sure the quick response to their book deal has sent them the message loud and clear. If they stick by Casey to the end they will be shunned by the world over. No sponsor will want to touch any show they're on and no one will take a chance on a book deal.

You might be right on this Bala....S&S sure got the word out fast that they did not want any part of them.
I wonder if they were to "switch sides" if they would be more attractive to publishers and producers?

really3997

08-16-2009, 03:07 PM

I think that by the time this goes to trial we will see G&C switch sides and stand behind the prosecutors. They know by now if they ride the Casey is innocent story to the end they will never recover enough credibility to keep riding the Caylee gravy train. I'm sure the quick response to their book deal has sent them the message loud and clear. If they stick by Casey to the end they will be shunned by the world over. No sponsor will want to touch any show they're on and no one will take a chance on a book deal.

I think it is too late for me to think it is will be sincere. jmo

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:08 PM

Casey's court hearing is scheduled for this coming Friday. Could be they are up to another "distraction" ....afterall, they've most likely "sold" their appearances and need to fullfill their obligations so that they will get paid. Of course, media will deny paying for appearances, and instead hide behind licensing of photos/videos.

:) I bet they are out finding missing children in their boat. Either that, or they have found someone that will allow them to distributing their bears. You know they always are ready to help. (gag-gag)

Pruddennce

08-16-2009, 03:08 PM

Yeah, they're backed into a corner by Casey because she spoke so much. Thinking LE would believe everything she said. She even tried to explain away the lack of phone evidence by saying she 'lost her Black Berry'. The one provided through 'work'. She reported it to 'security'.:rolleyes:

On top of that, she said her current phone was used to try and get ahold of "Zanny' after nobody was at the aparment when she went to pick Caylee up. Proven to not be true by phone records.

Another thing that leads me to believe that "Zanny' was only recently a character put into action by the demise of Caylee is that Casey's phone book doesn't even have a fake "Zanny number'. Similar to what she did for "Universal' and other numbers in her book.

I would like to add this as well: Cindy did not have a contact # for her or a valid address. Casey's explanations of various cell phone carriers is another bunch of lies, along with Zanny's change of residences.

With that amount of information given to LE, LE had a head start on checking Casey's statement about residences. She never lived there. Jeff and a son (that did not exist), did not live in a house with a lovely yard. *the devil is in the details*<--Casey provided tons that were easily dismissed as lies during the investigation.

If her # changed over and over again, Cindy would have been apprised; that is, if she cared enough to know who was watching Caylee and where she was all day for almost 2 years.

She didnt have any information. All she knew was: Caylee was returned home every day, or turned over to her at work for HER to take her home.

GA admitted in his FBI interview he didnt believe she had a job. He talked to Cindy about it and Cindy wanted to believe otherwise "because casey said she was working'. <--she believes a liar?

page 35
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-07/48370053.pdf

These two grandparents DID NOT CARE enough to check out their daughter's statements about a nanny/babysitter. They knew she was a liar and a thief, however they were not compelled to validate her claims. IMO, because they simply didnt care as long as Caylee came home.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:18 PM

ClimbingRose

08-16-2009, 03:19 PM

I think that by the time this goes to trial we will see G&C switch sides and stand behind the prosecutors. They know by now if they ride the Casey is innocent story to the end they will never recover enough credibility to keep riding the Caylee gravy train. I'm sure the quick response to their book deal has sent them the message loud and clear. If they stick by Casey to the end they will be shunned by the world over. No sponsor will want to touch any show they're on and no one will take a chance on a book deal.

George, Cindy or Brad gets the clue society won't tolerate anyone profiting from the murder of this child?...... Nawww

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:22 PM

This is what I was looking for. Lots of interesting things here...not sure if they have been valided or can be validated but again, a lot of interesting questions are raised.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5395519/Info-on-a-Zenaida-My-Space-Created-by-Casey-Anthony

iluvmua

08-16-2009, 03:29 PM

will Casey be at this next court hearing?

happygert

08-16-2009, 03:30 PM

:) Do you think she would smell like decaying pizza when she was finally allowed to leave?

Ohh.... either that or the dead squirrel that climbed in her car..she'd have to be hauled away..when she finished.....lol

happygert

08-16-2009, 03:32 PM

will Casey be at this next court hearing?

as fas as I know she will be.. Judge ordered her to be at all hearings that has to do with her case..

ClimbingRose

08-16-2009, 03:36 PM

I found this looking for something else...thought it was interesting. The author does raise some good questions.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-21/the-evidence-yoursquore-not-allowed-to-see/3/

Very interesting and informative article. I wonder if the absence of information involving Mallory is a clue of what LE knows. Also think there's more to DC's involvement in this case also.

BTW: Why haven't we heard anything more regarding the Bar's investigation of JB and BC.

bchand

08-16-2009, 03:38 PM

Very interesting and informative article. I wonder if the absence of information involving Mallory is a clue of what LE knows. Also think there's more to DC's involvement in this case also.

BTW: Why haven't we heard anything more regarding the Bar's investigation of JB and BC.

We've been told by our lawyer posters here that it can be a very long process. Waiting patiently .......

bchand

08-16-2009, 03:41 PM

I think that by the time this goes to trial we will see G&C switch sides and stand behind the prosecutors. They know by now if they ride the Casey is innocent story to the end they will never recover enough credibility to keep riding the Caylee gravy train. I'm sure the quick response to their book deal has sent them the message loud and clear. If they stick by Casey to the end they will be shunned by the world over. No sponsor will want to touch any show they're on and no one will take a chance on a book deal.

I don't think there's a chance in he$$ that G&C will switch sides.

They believe they look good defending their daughter. They believe the public is as naive/stupid/gullible as they are.

They're in for a surprise at trial. IMO

Bala

08-16-2009, 03:43 PM

I found this looking for something else...thought it was interesting. The author does raise some good questions.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-21/the-evidence-yoursquore-not-allowed-to-see/3/
This is by Wendy Murphy. She is on HLN all the time I love her insight and her fight for children is truly something. She is an in your face tell it like it is kind of girl. We can count on her being on Caylee's side and telling us what no one else will.

iluvmua

08-16-2009, 03:45 PM

ugh, The Anthony's have a book deal????

:scared:

I'll read/buy any book about this case EXCEPT this one.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:45 PM

This is by Wendy Murphy. She is on HLN all the time I love her insight and her fight for children is truly something. She is an in your face tell it like it is kind of girl. We can count on her being on Caylee's side and telling us what no one else will.

I like the "in your face tell it like it is" kind of reporters..and people too for that matter:). As I said, I thought the article was very informative.

happygert

08-16-2009, 03:52 PM

I don't think there's a chance in he$$ that G&C will switch sides.

They believe they look good defending their daughter. They believe the public is as naive/stupid/gullible as they are.

They're in for a surprise at trial. IMO

ITA! they will never tell the truth! They all are LAIRS!.. IMO thats why their own families do NOT want anything to do with them.. no friends no family members have ever been seen at the A's side during this whole time.. Kind of makes you wonder why? Why no family? why no friends.. IMO its because everyone that has ever been in contact with this family knows what kind of people they are. lying psychopath narcissists. and WANT absolutely nothing to do with any of them.. it speaks volumes..

Bala

08-16-2009, 03:53 PM

I don't think there's a chance in he$$ that G&C will switch sides.

They believe they look good defending their daughter. They believe the public is as naive/stupid/gullible as they are.

They're in for a surprise at trial. IMO
I don't think they have made anywhere near the $ they thought they would and it's drying up fast.
I think it's going to go something like this. Oh my Lord how could we have been so blind to all of Casey's lies. She's our daughter we wanted and needed to believe her but now we must face the truth.

WE ARE THE VICTIMS. BOO HOO HOO. SEND US YOUR MONEY SO WE CAN HELP FIGHT FOR CAYLEE.

Holden

08-16-2009, 03:54 PM

I don't think there is any chance at all the A's will switch sides. I know they love money, but I think more than that, CA has to maintain that she was a wonderful mother, casey was a wonderful mother, they all lived in a swell, happy house. They have enough $$ (for now, anyway) from the sale of everything Caylee (pics, videos, TV producers who send them to the Ritz, then buy them steak). For CA it's all about how it looks. She will go down with the count trying to convince us all that their family was built on LOVE.:tongueside:

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:56 PM

ITA! they will never tell the truth! They all are LAIRS!.. IMO thats why their own families do NOT want anything to do with them.. no friends no family members have ever been seen at the A's side during this whole time.. Kind of makes you wonder why? Why no family? why no friends.. IMO its because everyone that has ever been in contact with this family knows what kind of people they are. lying psychopath narcissists. and WANT absolutely nothing to do with any of them.. it speaks volumes..

I think the friends they do claim to have, and those that are standing with them, speak volumes that are much louder. Who but the Anthony's would claim to the Milsteads (not sure of the spelling) as friends????

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 03:59 PM

I don't think they have made anywhere near the $ they thought they would and it's drying up fast.
I think it's going to go something like this. Oh my Lord how could we have been so blind to all of Casey's lies. She's our daughter we wanted and needed to believe her but now we must face the truth.

WE ARE THE VICTIMS. BOO HOO HOO. SEND US YOUR MONEY SO WE CAN HELP FIGHT FOR CAYLEE.

Nah, that would be so beneath them..it would make people think they are not sincere, honest, hard working, and responsible grandparents whose only desire is to let the world know how much they loved "that child"

happygert

08-16-2009, 04:00 PM

I think the friends they do claim to have, and those that are standing with them, speak volumes that are much louder. Who but the Anthony's would claim to the Milsteads (not sure of the spelling) as friends????

I dont know anyone else who would..

happygert

08-16-2009, 04:03 PM

Nah, that would be so beneath them..it would make people think they are not sincere, honest, hard working, and responsible grandparents whose only desire is to let the world know how much they loved "that child"

everyone one of those anthonys all together could put how much they loved and cared for Caylee in a thumble and still have room left for their finger in it..

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 04:28 PM

Yes, Casey is indeed that dumb. For her, practice did not make perfect.

She lied to her middle/high school aged peers, where her embellishments would not seem that atypical in the social environment of developing teens wanting to either fit in or be better than those in the group.

She lied to those few friends who carried over from high school, but they knew that she lied. She was,well, just being Casey.

She lied to Jesse about paternity, but he is honest and was easy to lie to. He was also big hearted enough to forgive her.

She lied to her new friends, but they had no history with her. They were focused on their own lives, college, work and enjoying themselves in between. Being a mother made her unique to her new crowd, hence the imaginary nanny, but other than zany she just pieced together the truth of their lives and fabricated her imaginary persona. Lazy lying.

She easily lied to Cindy and George. She told them what they wanted to hear, they never checked up on all her lies, if caught in a lie there was no consequence, and they are dishonest themselves. Apple... > tree.

Casey shows little creative intelligence, no pre-emptive lying to cover future need, did not formulate her lies with (false) supporting evidence or trails (accept to gullible C&G with false work e-mails and deposit slip) and shows no ability to pull off a well formulated scam or rip-off. She flew by the seat of her pants, and had no problem taking them off to get what she wanted. It did not take a master criminal mind to just slip her hand into Amy's pants and steal $400.00 while she slept.

Her lies where juvenile and immediate, with little to no thought given to how feasible her lies were, even to rudimentary scrutiny.

IMO those who believe that she was a skilled liar are honest people who have just not, by the grace of God, met a skilled one yet.

Using toadii's very well described skill set of Casey, perhaps these 2 definitions will give additional information into Casey's abilities.

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/confront_a_liar/public/pathological-compulsive.html

Scampi

08-16-2009, 04:47 PM

I think if she does, I think they will have to scrape her off the chair because the SA will make mince meat of her :)

I tend to agree with you that she will never skip to the stand. But, how on earth will Lyon get her story to the jury without her?

Sun

08-16-2009, 04:47 PM

I don't think there's a chance in he$$ that G&C will switch sides.

They believe they look good defending their daughter. They believe the public is as naive/stupid/gullible as they are.

They're in for a surprise at trial. IMO

ITA. No way will Cindy and George support the State in the prosecution of Casey. I believe that they will be very difficult on the witness stand.

Bala

08-16-2009, 04:51 PM

Nah, that would be so beneath them..it would make people think they are not sincere, honest, hard working, and responsible grandparents whose only desire is to let the world know how much they loved "that child"

I think the signs are already there. We've seen next to nothing of them lately even before the depos were taken. Cindy made no kind of statement before or after the depose and Brad didn't the today show minus the A's after the depose. The money must be starting to dry up by now and neither Cindy or George have a job and very little chance of getting one. You add to the fact that the last time they saw Casey in court she didn't even acknowledge them. There was Cindy and George at the back of the court room looking absolutely devastated and clueless as to what was going on while Casey stood at the front surrounded by all her big time lawyer's grabbing up all Cindy's attention.
Something certainly changed that day.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:15 PM

ITA. No way will Cindy and George support the State in the prosecution of Casey. I believe that they will be very difficult on the witness stand.

Sun, do you think we will see a repeat performance of the M&M depo?

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:19 PM

I think the signs are already there. We've seen next to nothing of them lately even before the depos were taken. Cindy made no kind of statement before or after the depose and Brad didn't the today show minus the A's after the depose. The money must be starting to dry up by now and neither Cindy or George have a job and very little chance of getting one. You add to the fact that the last time they saw Casey in court she didn't even acknowledge them. There was Cindy and George at the back of the court room looking absolutely devastated and clueless as to what was going on while Casey stood at the front surrounded by all her big time lawyer's grabbing up all Cindy's attention.
Something certainly changed that day.

I had wondered about that also Bala...they did look rather confused because she did not even look in their direction.
I wondered also about BC doing the Today show without them present..I just thought that maybe there was no money in it for them.
Will be interesting to see if they show up Friday and what will happen then.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:21 PM

I love the HOW TO LIE article:

Keep it short and to the point.

Keep it plausible.

Keep calm.

IMO I must add a caveat. Casey kept herself sooooo calm for 31days that no jury will ever believe her. :tonguewag:

:) I think you are right about that one toadii.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:25 PM

My opinion...NOT while Strickland is on the bench.:ohmy:

I am sure you are right, but I have to admit...I would so love to see him telling her the rules of his court room.

Sun

08-16-2009, 05:25 PM

Sun, do you think we will see a repeat performance of the M&M depo?

Not with Judge Strickland on the bench. I do believe that both will have to be declared as hostile witnesses. ...time will tell, and it's going to be a long, long wait for this trial to start.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:31 PM

I tend to agree with you that she will never skip to the stand. But, how on earth will Lyon get her story to the jury without her?

I have NO clue Scampi. We were discussing this earlier today and Sun posted a very interesting theory. (#487) I have thought about it off and on throughout the day. What do you think?

happygert

08-16-2009, 05:42 PM

Not with Judge Strickland on the bench. I do believe that both will have to be declared as hostile witnesses. ...time will tell, and it's going to be a long, long wait for this trial to start.

Yep have to agree that they will be.. but time has went by fast its been already 14 months since Caylee was reported so called "missing" .. Hoping the rest of the time flys by too..I also think around 2 years for trials in Fla has been the norm here lately..last trial jb was involved in with the other murder of a child was also 2 years...jmo

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:55 PM

Sun

08-16-2009, 05:56 PM

Yep have to agree that they will be.. but time has went by fast its been already 14 months since Caylee was reported so called "missing" .. Hoping the rest of the time flys by too..I also think around 2 years for trials in Fla has been the norm here lately..last trial jb was involved in with the other murder of a child was also 2 years...jmo

I tend to wonder if Baez is just sitting back and letting Lyon do all the work right now. Clearly she drafted the last motion to the court, and I am going to guess that she will be sending through a flood of motions (no doubt using "her" classroom of students or interns).

Right now, I am eagerly awaiting the arguments and Judge Strickland's ruling on whether the criminal check/fraud case will be put off until after the murder case. I suspect that it may be. ...sadly.

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 05:59 PM

happygert

08-16-2009, 06:02 PM

I think some one is messing with Mother Nature's calendar...I know it can not be almost September yet....it was only a couple of weeks ago we were celebrating Memorial day...:confused:

LOL.. its sure seem like it. Christmas will be here before you know it..

Sun

08-16-2009, 06:02 PM

Sun, if Casey were to plead guilty to the check charges, would that make that case go away?

If Casey were to change her plea, would that case then advance to a sentencing phase?

happygert

08-16-2009, 06:05 PM

Sun, if Casey were to plead guilty to the check charges, would that make that case go away?

IMO no then they've have to sentenced her at some point and SA could use it in her murder trial.. she'll never make a plea agreement imo..

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 06:23 PM

IMO no then they've have to sentenced her at some point and SA could use it in her murder trial.. she'll never make a plea agreement imo..

Thanks Sun :)....Gert, I think you are right about her not making a plea agreement...but it seems it would be to her advantage to, and just get that over. She will be found guilty..how can she not!!!
I think it will be a factor in her murder trial whether it is heard now or at some future point. What are they gaining by delaying it?

Sun

08-16-2009, 06:27 PM

Thanks Sun :)....Gert, I think you are right about her not making a plea agreement...but it seems it would be to her advantage to, and just get that over. She will be found guilty..how can she not!!!
I think it will be a factor in her murder trial whether it is heard now or at some future point. What are they gaining by delaying it?

The defense doesn't want to go into the Criminal Murder Case trial with Casey having several felonies on her "record."

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 06:29 PM

The defense doesn't want to go into the Criminal Murder Case trial with Casey having several felonies on her "record."

That makes sense.
Will the SA be able to even mention the check charges during the murder case, if charges are still pending in that case?

Julie Dupree

08-16-2009, 06:32 PM

Chatting with you has been a lovely way to spend my Sunday afternoon but I have to go. Hope you have a wonderful evening.
Julie

Sun

08-16-2009, 07:03 PM

UM - is there any doubt that she is in control now by the looks of the last paperwork filed, it is pretty clear ol Josie didn't write it! And Sun, you Indiana gal, how do you know so much about the cases and filings in FL - you are ON THE BALL girl! :thumbup: Good work Sun!

No doubt in my mind that Baez had absolutely nothing to do with drafting them. I was shocked when I first began reading. Now it will be interesting to read and see what direction Lyon takes with this case.

happygert

08-16-2009, 07:04 PM

Thanks Sun :)....Gert, I think you are right about her not making a plea agreement...but it seems it would be to her advantage to, and just get that over. She will be found guilty..how can she not!!!
I think it will be a factor in her murder trial whether it is heard now or at some future point. What are they gaining by delaying it?

They dont want casey convicted of a crime before she goes to trial on murder charges.. If she's convicted before then SA can use that conviction against her in the murder trial..

happygert

08-16-2009, 07:19 PM

Hi gert...
I thought the law says they can't bring in any other prior charges in a new case.:confused:

Well if she's convicted the state can use it.. not sure how that works but I think it's if she was convicted of another murder they cant use that.But I think they can use prior bad acts in this case...Thats why jb and company do not want this check charge case before the murder case..

BlueTurtle

08-16-2009, 07:26 PM

Attorney work product is not a priviledge. The last paragraph of this explains it.

Comparison with attorney-client privilege
The work-product doctrine is more inclusive than attorney-client privilege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-client_privilege). Unlike the attorney-client privilege, which includes only communications between an attorney and his client, work-product includes materials prepared by persons other than the attorney himself: The materials may have been prepared by anybody as long as they were prepared with an eye towards the realistic possibility of impending litigation. Additionally, it includes materials collected for the attorney such as interrogatories, signed statements, other information acquired for the prosecution or defense of a case, "memoranda, briefs, communications . . . other writings prepared by counsel for his own use in prosecuting his client's case . . . mental impressions, conclusions, opinions, or legal theories."

However, the work-product doctrine is also less powerful than the attorney-client privilege because it is not a privilege, and therefore may be overcome by a showing of necessity, as described above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-product_doctrine

Thanks for the information!!!

DO you think Baez is aware of the limitations? I am not impressed by Baez. He doesn't seem to do his homework.

happygert

08-16-2009, 07:43 PM

I doubt he is being straight with her at all - but no doubt as she becomes a legal scholar while waiting her trial, she will start telling him what to do just like cindy tried to tell LE how to do their job too! Two of a kind, those two are! And about the chance to "get her off" - in their puppy love relationship, the getting off part could have a whole notha' meaning if you catch my drift! (I personally DOUBT that, though) If she was not in jail and NEEDED HIM, this Bozo lawyer would not even be on her outermost radar screen - she would not even notice him at all as a boyfriend, let alone marriage material fgs!

He truly thinks he is gonna get her off (of course with the help of the entire DREAM TEAM he has assembled for his lady love) and that is all she wants from him - I bet if she ever DID get out, she would lose his number in a matter of hours - not days - and never even look back because she would then be through with him and what she needed from him at the time. LATER, Jose! Been Good Knowin' and Leadin' You On! He's dumb enough to think that, too, like this case is his springboard to the future of his career. He will never be asked to be a talking head on NG or any other show - who would want that loser as a commentator about the LAW!!?? He is the DREAMER if you ask me!:scared:

I agree that jb is NOT being straight with casey.. I also believe the Judge thinks that to ..Thats why he ordered casey to be in court room when there are any hearings that have to do with her murder case.. Yes and no doubt jb and company has lead casey to believe she'll be walking on the beach after this trial is over..

AWW the dream team.. yes thats exactly what they are.. DREAMERS if they think they will get casey off.. thats the only way its going to happen is in a dream.. However their dream in realty will be a NIGHTMARE..

happygert

08-16-2009, 07:51 PM

One more thing by the time this case goes to trial .. I really don't think casey will look the same as she has in the past.. When looking at her now she's gained a few pounds and her hair looks like its starting to lose it's color.. IMO george turned grey prematurely, lee looks like hes greying also.. my guess is so will casey.. I just keep remembering Betty Brodrick and her trial.. by the time 2nd one came around you could hardly believe it was the same person...

ttcRider

08-16-2009, 07:53 PM

BlueTurtle

08-16-2009, 07:59 PM

Frustrated with the case?

Watch this and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gWb636tAxM

:biggrin:

Maybe Jose can use this as an example of why they need a COV.

happygert

08-16-2009, 08:02 PM

happygert

08-16-2009, 08:06 PM

Her pearly whites will be the first to go. :thumbsup:

lol... oh yes dentistry in prison..

happygert

08-16-2009, 08:09 PM

ITA, gert..Just the fact that she's in a 10x10 cell, gaining a lot of weight, can't have her hair colored and cut the KUTE-sy way she wants it, is a lot of stress and being so young. Buying garbage everyday and living on FGF. (Fat greasy food)

Casey will look 10-15 years older by the time this trial is over. :eek:

yep.. so flirting with the male jurors is probably going to be a bust...don't think that hip action ,batting her eye lashes and her smile is going to get her far with them..

SoggyBayou

08-16-2009, 08:23 PM

Hi gert...
I thought the law says they can't bring in any other prior charges in a new case.

Check your pm's girlfriend...and hey, I think we are ALL confused DL! :confused:

Two separate indictments. One for murder and the other for check fraud.
IMO

happygert

08-16-2009, 08:28 PM

Oh gert, SWEETHEART! She will just say WELL SWEETHEART - (don't blame me!) YOU ARE THE ONE WHO LIED TO THEM ON "THE THING!" ON "THE THING!" THEY ALSO LIED TO ABOUT ME! (always gotta be WORSE for Cindy) Or, it was SOMETHING ABOUT A THING!! But it wasn't right!! No one should ever use THE THING to try to make me perjure on!

lol...FMO...

happygert

08-16-2009, 08:41 PM

I tend to wonder if Baez is just sitting back and letting Lyon do all the work right now. Clearly she drafted the last motion to the court, and I am going to guess that she will be sending through a flood of motions (no doubt using "her" classroom of students or interns).

Right now, I am eagerly awaiting the arguments and Judge Strickland's ruling on whether the criminal check/fraud case will be put off until after the murder case. I suspect that it may be. ...sadly.

Your probably right about jb.. yep she sure will and students will be doing all the work..I hope the Judge says yes this trial will be heard in 30 days.. now that would be a dream come true for the state.. night mare for the defense.. I can hear them now .. well your honor The BOA and Amy have been made whole I dont even see why this should be an issue.. Who did this hurt? The bank? NO they got their money.. Amy? no bank put her money back in her account.. Your honor this is a victimless crime.. There should NOT even be a trial on this case.. I move to dismiss all charges against my client!.. Oh ok that diidnt work.. well your honor my co counsel AL and LKB cant be in court on the day you set this trial on.. AL is teaching a class in Chicago and LKB is getting pointers on the forensics from her hubby..

I surely hope the judge sets a date before the murder trial..

happygert

08-16-2009, 09:07 PM

where'd everyone go?

ttcRider

08-16-2009, 09:10 PM

:seeya: I'm back and forth on the Amber Alert thread :thumbup:

SoggyBayou

08-16-2009, 09:21 PM

Chloroform teddy bears. Dizzy Winnie. Did the ant's use chloro as a cat nip?
Sick.
IMO

Unleashed

08-16-2009, 09:38 PM

:) I bet they are out finding missing children in their boat. Either that, or they have found someone that will allow them to distributing their bears. You know they always are ready to help. (gag-gag)

There's a lot going on with HaLeigh Cummings this weekend. I sincerely hope they haven't gone down to stick their noses into that.:sneaky:

jmo

msgatorslayer

08-16-2009, 10:33 PM

Lights, camera's and action in the court room.
They just have to show this trial live.

I want more than anything to see the different looks on Casey's face each time they have a witness up there to testify. Not so much the expert witnesses but Cindy, George and Casey's friends.

Will Casey sit there with a poker face or will we see any reaction at all.
Will she look them all in the eye or will she turn away. Will Casey look at the evidence they show the jury. Photo's of Caylee and how they found her.
There will be so much in this trial to get thru.
JMO

Unless Team Casey manages to get the Judge to agree that airing the trail live would be harmful, Tru-TV would be foolish not to air it. Their ratings will go thru the roof on this one. And since Team Casey loves the lime light I doubt they'll even ask, lol. {Not that a Judge in Florida would agree that the cameras are out. It is extremely RARE}

I predict Casey will be dressed up nicely. The innocent school girl, librarian type, with the reading glasses. She'll act busy, reading her court papers, taking notes, etc. Team Casey will be calling her 'the girl'. As to make the jury think she's young, like a kid, instead of the adult that she is.

When those on Casey's side say nice things, and lie about her, she'll give them that pleasant smile in return. Those who state facts and call her the duck that she is, well, she'll probably start croc crying, or getting angry.

Yea, ITA, it will be a very interesting trial. One not to be forgotten by the court watcher, for sure.

Dells

08-16-2009, 10:33 PM

This was a heinous crime in my opinion. Casey doesn't seem to get it. She would do better if she did plea bargain in exchange for a lighter sentence. Maybe 125 years instead of LWOP.:unsure:
Who knows, maybe Baez isn't being straight with her. He may be telling her there is a good chance he can get her off.:confused:
Maybe she thinks she has Mommy dearest believing her. Mommie dearest ought to tell Casey she will stand by her but does not believe a word she has said so how would she expect a jury to.
jmo

Bolding mine....

I have thought about this a lot too. I think if Casey were going to take a plea deal, the best time for that would have been at the very beginning of this case. Before Caylee's body was found. She certainly would have most likely gotten the best deal then and might have been able to negotiate a sentence where she would one day get out of jail. I sometimes think the time has come and gone for a plea deal and the only thing left is to take it to trial.

I think from Casey's position, she has nothing to lose by taking it to trial. If she pleads out now, she goes right to prison and leaves the relatively cushy conditions of jail and being in protective custody. If she takes this to trial, she can continue to sit in jail, and heck even though it is a long shot, there is a chance she could get off on some sort of technicality. There is no way a jury will acquit her, but she can hope for a hung jury. Even though she would be retried she would again be in jail and not prison during that whole process. I think Casey knows it is either LWOP or the DP for her. There is a chance w/AL's record the DP will be taken off the table. But, even it isn't and that is what Casey's sentence is, she will get to appeal the decision for many years to come. Her DP sentence could also be commuted to LWOP.

So, if she pleads now, it is over and she goes to prison and starts serving her sentence and is forgotten by everyone. If she takes this to trial, she can drag it out as long as she can and stay in jail, which I am sure is no picnic, but it is better than prison. Plus, Caseys's been in about 10 months now she is somewhat familiar w/where she is. She has easy access to her attorneys and can basically see them whenever she wants to. Plus, Casey likes to take things as far as she can. Let her take this to trial, it is going to end w/a guilty verdict.

Unleashed

08-16-2009, 11:09 PM

AnniePie

08-16-2009, 11:09 PM

Her pearly whites will be the first to go. :thumbsup:

Her waistline was the first to go. :rolleyes:

AnniePie

08-16-2009, 11:10 PM

msgatorslayer

08-16-2009, 11:16 PM

Her waistline was the first to go. :rolleyes:

Hopefully someone will get her some new digs before her next hearing. She was busting outta that shirt, last time.

Some of Cindy's old clothing should do. :sneaky:

need2no

08-16-2009, 11:28 PM

Bolding mine....

I have thought about this a lot too. I think if Casey were going to take a plea deal, the best time for that would have been at the very beginning of this case. Before Caylee's body was found. She certainly would have most likely gotten the best deal then and might have been able to negotiate a sentence where she would one day get out of jail. I sometimes think the time has come and gone for a plea deal and the only thing left is to take it to trial.

I think from Casey's position, she has nothing to lose by taking it to trial. If she pleads out now, she goes right to prison and leaves the relatively cushy conditions of jail and being in protective custody. If she takes this to trial, she can continue to sit in jail, and heck even though it is a long shot, there is a chance she could get off on some sort of technicality. There is no way a jury will acquit her, but she can hope for a hung jury. Even though she would be retried she would again be in jail and not prison during that whole process. I think Casey knows it is either LWOP or the DP for her. There is a chance w/AL's record the DP will be taken off the table. But, even it isn't and that is what Casey's sentence is, she will get to appeal the decision for many years to come. Her DP sentence could also be commuted to LWOP.

So, if she pleads now, it is over and she goes to prison and starts serving her sentence and is forgotten by everyone. If she takes this to trial, she can drag it out as long as she can and stay in jail, which I am sure is no picnic, but it is better than prison. Plus, Caseys's been in about 10 months now she is somewhat familiar w/where she is. She has easy access to her attorneys and can basically see them whenever she wants to. Plus, Casey likes to take things as far as she can. Let her take this to trial, it is going to end w/a guilty verdict.

It seems to me casey has lost her window of opportunity to take a plea deal. I believe when Caylee's remains were found LE also found some other very incriminating evidence that we have yet to hear, and this evidence wiped out any chance of another offer for a plea deal; besides to do so would be like showing the State's hand, IMO.

I agree that casey is pleased to be in protective custody, in fact she probably thinks it makes her 'special.' I've tried to speculate whether casey might actually think she has a chance in he!! of getting out of this scott free. I would imagine that most who are in deep trouble for the 1st time probably cling to the hope they will get out of it somehow, along with encouraging words from their attorneys and family.

It's my understanding there is no life WITH parole in Fl. The best casey could hope for when found guilty is LWOP.

msgatorslayer

08-16-2009, 11:41 PM

Lets not forget the safety pin she had to wear around them buttons.
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.:crying:
I wonder if Cindy did that on purpose to belittle Casey. IIRC, the blouse was not new let alone too small for her. Cindy could have sprung for a new blouse for Casey with that "bear" money she was collecting.:sneaky:

Cindy has to do something to get back at Casey, ya know? It's not like she's spilling the beans by telling the truth, lol. Sneak? Absolutely!!!

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 12:04 AM

ITA! they will never tell the truth! They all are LAIRS!.. IMO thats why their own families do NOT want anything to do with them.. no friends no family members have ever been seen at the A's side during this whole time.. Kind of makes you wonder why? Why no family? why no friends.. IMO its because everyone that has ever been in contact with this family knows what kind of people they are. lying psychopath narcissists. and WANT absolutely nothing to do with any of them.. it speaks volumes..

And the day will come when even their new church friends get a clue. Cindy is intolerable and eventually her well meaning church lady friends are going to see through her phony "I got religion now" scam.

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 12:17 AM

ITA, gert..Just the fact that she's in a 10x10 cell, gaining a lot of weight, can't have her hair colored and cut the KUTE-sy way she wants it, is a lot of stress and being so young. Buying garbage everyday and living on FGF. (Fat greasy food)

Casey will look 10-15 years older by the time this trial is over. :eek:

I really think that the donations to her account are mostly from people who want her to spend the money on treats and fattening food. I mean it's almost impossible not to eat junk food when you are cooped up and bored and you have noting much to do but read and listen to the radio. I think she's being sent a lot of the money as a joke.

msgatorslayer

08-17-2009, 12:22 AM

I really think that the donations to her account are mostly from people who want her to spend the money on treats and fattening food. I mean it's almost impossible not to eat junk food when you are cooped up and bored and you have noting much to do but read and listen to the radio. I think she's being sent a lot of the money as a joke.

Oh, no you didn't. Take it back!! You're tempting me to send her pork rind money.:tongue:

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 12:23 AM

I know she got RE-baptized but had no Idea she was attending church services. Cindy with friends? Cindy with church lady friends?
With all the publicity and media as to Cindy's behavior. I wouldn't be surprised if the church ladies stayed away from her. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they were not scared of Cindy. She's a nut ball.
I know, the forgiving and spiritual stuff. I am catholic but i certainly wouldn't break bread with the woman just because she got RE-Baptized.
I have a feeling it is really hard for Cindy to make friends and keep them.
But...That's just my opinion.:lol:

Well you actually said it better than I did! Church ladies, smurch ladies. Nobody could put up with Cindy. She the very type of woman that almost all other women cannot stand. The first time I saw her, the first time time she opened her mouth, I knew she was the type of woman to run a million miles away from. No lie.

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 12:33 AM

Oh, no you didn't. Take it back!! You're tempting me to send her pork rind money.:tongue:

Hehe! :tonguewag:

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 01:27 AM

I am surprised that I am only now finding out about the grave wax. This is really a great bit of evidence! Where was it found? On paper towels in the trash in Casey's car and also on the wall in her house? I really have not found any official document that includes the info about the grave wax. Can someone provide a link and who else thinks this is a huge nail in Casey's coffin.

Affa

08-17-2009, 01:46 AM

MrsHudson

08-17-2009, 02:08 AM

I remember the grave wax info being in one of the last dumps but I understood it was only on a paper towel in the trunk of the car. I have never seen anything about it being on the wall in the house. I thought when I read it that it was extremely important. The report did not indicate if they had finished the dna test on it as I remember.

see post 142 in the link below, that's where I read about the drywall.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5600.msg888551

Well even if there's no DNA in grave wax....well how many people have THAT in their car? Casey is toast!

happygert

08-17-2009, 02:30 AM

And the day will come when even their new church friends get a clue. Cindy is intolerable and eventually her well meaning church lady friends are going to see through her phony "I got religion now" scam.

Yep .. IMO it wont be long..

happygert

08-17-2009, 02:39 AM

see post 142 in the link below, that's where I read about the drywall.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5600.msg888551

Well even if there's no DNA in grave wax....well how many people have THAT in their car? Casey is toast!

dang MrsHudson , I must have have my head in the sand .. I sure missed. where they took a piece of drywall.. thanks for the link..

happygert

08-17-2009, 04:10 AM

Just the book for the entire family could use my kid's favorite age appropriate:

"Casey Anthony and her Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day" Awesome book if you have little kids,

along with a video of how dead squirrles climb..

scratch and sniff pizza box after being in the hot FLA. sun for 12 to 19
days..

And How to find the invisible nanny who works for free..

happygert

08-17-2009, 04:38 AM

what happened to the night shift? did they all quit? Gets lonely trying to figure out the a's and the defense teams strategy all by your self

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 04:41 AM

happygert

08-17-2009, 04:51 AM

Hi all been a while since I have be on here so got to catch up..for some reason I have been thinking of this ANGEL so much in the past week and since I have followed it and actually ended up signing up again after years of not posting here...she will never be forgotten....

No she wont.. Too bad her own family didnt love her like complete strangers do.. IMO she found the love in death that she never had in her short little life..

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 04:52 AM

dang MrsHudson , I must have have my head in the sand .. I sure missed. where they took a piece of drywall.. thanks for the link..

omg I missed that one also..

happygert

08-17-2009, 04:55 AM

omg I missed that one also..

Yes I'll bet cindy was throwing a hissy fit when they took the drywall.. I also want to know why they got a new washer not sure about the dryer.. the other one looked like it was almost new..

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 04:55 AM

No she wont.. Too bad her own family didnt love her like complete strangers do.. IMO she found the love in death that she never had in her short little life..

Morning gert she has touched so many hasn't she..I still look back and can not believe it has been over a year it seems like just yesterday...she is AMERICAS LITTLE ANGEL

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 05:00 AM

Yes I'll bet cindy was throwing a hissy fit when they took the drywall.. I also want to know why they got a new washer not sure about the dryer.. the other one looked like it was almost new..

Oh I am sure she did..I can not believe I missed that one I guess it is time to write down notes since so much has been released in the past year..Is it true CA is writing a book? I heard it but was not sure if true and have not been on here for a few weeks every once in awhile seems to much and so sad I have to walk away but always and forever will return until our Angel gets Justice...

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 05:02 AM

along with a video of how dead squirrles climb..

scratch and sniff pizza box after being in the hot FLA. sun for 12 to 19
days..

And How to find the invisible nanny who works for free..

my bolding

Sorry had to laugh at that one..:thumbsup:

happygert

08-17-2009, 05:03 AM

Morning gert she has touched so many hasn't she..I still look back and can not believe it has been over a year it seems like just yesterday...she is AMERICAS LITTLE ANGEL

Morning aproudmom, Yes she has.. I know its been 14 mos.. I just want this trial to get started so Caylee can have her day in court.. Its time this baby got her justice.. But I know we still have about a year to go.. before its done.. hope the next 12 go as fast as the last 14.. Too bad her family didnt protect her and love her the way all of America does..

happygert

08-17-2009, 05:11 AM

so sad to think the last day Caylee was on this earth how she clung to her great grandpa .

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 05:29 AM

Morning aproudmom, Yes she has.. I know its been 14 mos.. I just want this trial to get started so Caylee can have her day in court.. Its time this baby got her justice.. But I know we still have about a year to go.. before its done.. hope the next 12 go as fast as the last 14.. Too bad her family didnt protect her and love her the way all of America does..

gert I am still saying WHY WHY all the time I know we have kids/adults going missing everyday but this little one has been one that my heart belongs to..I want Justice for this baby how can a mother throw her child away like that...I still remember the day waiting for the PC after the remains were found and awaiting the word it was her I know we all pretty much knew..but it still hit so hard to hear Dr. G. saying it was Caylee..Heck I even went into panic attacks more than her own mother did I am sure...OK well got to run and get tissue..I am so glad we all love this child so much to bad they did not love her and protect her...JMO

aproudmom

08-17-2009, 07:00 AM

I was just looking at old videos from way back..and I found the one with NG I was in shock when NG did not go on the attack..anyway this was back when Tim Miller was on

ok ok guess I forgot it was everyone's fault but their daughters:angry: know wonder KC is the way she is..Here we had CA calling into NG because she said she wanted to make it clear SHE called Tim not the PD...WRONG...LE did..not CA but then again how can we all forget the statement that SHE cancelled the OPRAH show..lol..what a joke I am sorry but these people are going to wish they never opened their mouths well guess they could be such good liars they believe the lie.I tried for Months trying my hardest to feel for them well after they started opening their mouth several times I saw they either knew Caylee was gone already..what family does not know that a search in all cases are in woods and water and so on..but she did not need searches looking for anything other than a LIVE Caylee because she was not in the woods...DARN CA you got that one wrong...:angry:
So who called Tim sounds like the PD to me not CA..or if she did the the PD ask them to stay..did someone not want them searching someone who may have been worried they would locate a Dead Caylee...the thing is in all this sadness they seem to always give us a super duper laugh...lol.why did she feel the need to call in because she loves power just like Ronald Cummings family oh how horrible that they said stay away so she had to clear that one up..per HER again she got on tv and praised herself once again saying she was the one who should have been grieving offered their assistance...and he made a bad decisions per CA...sorry I know we have all talked about all this stuff it just angers me to hear all their lies the below was from NG show 9/2

I`m the one that called Tim Miller

Cindy Anthony: So, you know, I`m not surprised that a lot of people aren`t showing up to search the woods, because a lot of people don`t believe that she`s out in the woods, that she`s buried.
You guys are going to put the coffin — Caylee in a coffin because eventually something is going to happen to her if we don`t find her.

The Orange County Sheriff has personally requested that Texas continue searching. The Sheriff’s dept. today has provided access to 25 air boats, their mounted patrol and has made contributions to the search.

The search team states that about 30% of the areas to be searched are underwater. Due to flooding and more pending storms, it may be necessary for TES to return at a later date to complete these water searches.

It was also stated this morning that TES will continue searching until all leads are exhausted.

HELLO CA who cares WHO called TES FGS

happygert

08-17-2009, 07:54 AM

gert I am still saying WHY WHY all the time I know we have kids/adults going missing everyday but this little one has been one that my heart belongs to..I want Justice for this baby how can a mother throw her child away like that...I still remember the day waiting for the PC after the remains were found and awaiting the word it was her I know we all pretty much knew..but it still hit so hard to hear Dr. G. saying it was Caylee..Heck I even went into panic attacks more than her own mother did I am sure...OK well got to run and get tissue..I am so glad we all love this child so much to bad they did not love her and protect her...JMO

There's no reason why..Anyone would have taken Caylee loved her, gave her a good home and PROTECTED her with their own LIFE .. I know I would have.. IMO not ONE in this whole damn family gave 2 shakes less about her.. Now they are using her for their gravy train.. NOT george nor cindy has worked one day in over13 months.. At casey's bond hearing they were behind in bills.. Now cc debt down to less then 2,000 from $58,000. and all bills are paid and they added extra ones to boot..Too bad they didn't love her like they do the all mighty dollar..
I'll bet they are thanking casey look at all the money rolling in.. all TAX FREE.... These sicko whack jobs will live the rest of their lives off of their dead granddaughter they will never work another day in their lives as long as they can sell off piece by piece of Caylee..

I say we need to all get together to try and pass a law that NO ONE can profit off of a MURDERED CHILD.. Stop these psychopaths.. Dang wish I was smart enough to figure out how to do this.. But Im sure there's plenty on this board who knows how to get it started.. SO we can PASS CAYLEE'S LAW.. Its a given that the grandparents sure dont want a law passed where NO ONE can PROFIT off of a MURDERED child..NO one CAN sell pictures, book, movie rights, videos or interviews. or make worthless bears,tee shirts,wrist bands jewelry or toys of any kind.. period! All foundations must have a court appointed attorney to over see what the funds are spent on..and NO ONE can use them for their own personal expenses.. and THEY must have a legitimate office, people with back grounds that are NOT FELONS!.. NO FELONS should EVER have any thing to do with a MISSING CHILD foundation.. PERIOD!..IMO this will put a stop to a lot of the scammers providing the ATTORNEYS are NOT like the ATTORNEY the A's HAVE.. He's a LAIR too.. just like the a's.. The family member should not be allowed near the funds.. period!

and if anyone is caught using fund from a foundation of a missing child not for the purpose of helping find a missing child there should be a automatic prison term set for those who miss use those funds.. like a minimum of 20 years.. also same prison term if its a scam

happygert

08-17-2009, 08:09 AM

dang what did I do chase the day shift off too?.. sorry about my rant .. about the a's making a living off their dead granddaughter... SORRY EVERYONE...

Julie Dupree

08-17-2009, 08:13 AM

There's no reason why..Anyone would have taken Caylee loved her, gave her a good home and PROTECTED her with their own LIFE .. I know I would have.. IMO not ONE in this whole damn family gave 2 shakes less about her.. Now they are using her for their gravy train.. NOT george nor cindy has worked one day in over13 months.. At casey's bond hearing they were behind in bills.. Now cc debt down to less then 2,000 from $58,000. and all bills are paid and they added extra ones to boot..Too bad they didn't love her like they do the all mighty dollar..
I'll bet they are thanking casey look at all the money rolling in.. all TAX FREE.... These sicko whack jobs will live the rest of their lives off of their dead granddaughter they will never work another day in their lives as long as they can sell off piece by piece of Caylee..

I say we need to all get together to try and pass a law that NO ONE can profit off of a MURDERED CHILD.. Stop these psychopaths.. Dang wish I was smart enough to figure out how to do this.. But Im sure there's plenty on this board who knows how to get it started.. SO we can PASS CAYLEE'S LAW.. Its a given that the grandparents sure dont want a law passed where NO ONE can PROFIT off of a MURDERED child..NO one CAN sell pictures, book, movie rights, videos or interviews. or make worthless bears,tee shirts,wrist bands jewelry or toys of any kind.. period! All foundations must have a court appointed attorney to over see what the funds are spent on..and NO ONE can use them for their own personal expenses.. and THEY must have a legitimate office, people with back grounds that are NOT FELONS!.. NO FELONS should EVER have any thing to do with a MISSING CHILD foundation.. PERIOD!..IMO this will put a stop to a lot of the scammers providing the ATTORNEYS are NOT like the ATTORNEY the A's HAVE.. He's a LAIR too.. just like the a's.. The family member should not be allowed near the funds.. period!

and if anyone is caught using fund from a foundation of a missing child not for the purpose of helping find a missing child there should be a automatic prison term set for those who miss use those funds.. like a minimum of 20 years.. also same prison term if its a scam

Gert that is one of your best post!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!
Ohhh how I wish such a thing would be possible. I think that would be one of the best laws we would have on the books.
Lets keep our fingers crossed that some day it will happen.
It is sad that such a law even needs our attention. Why do people like the Anthony's even make it necessary to consider?
Have a good day Gert, and thanks.

Julie Dupree

08-17-2009, 08:15 AM

dang what did I do chase the day shift off too?.. sorry about my rant .. about the a's making a living off their dead granddaughter... SORRY EVERYONE...

Please do not be sorry for this Gert...as a matter of fact, please feel free to do it more often. I bet it gets lots of discussion today.
Gotta run, see you after work.
Julie

happygert

08-17-2009, 08:20 AM

Gert that is one of your best post!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!
Ohhh how I wish such a thing would be possible. I think that would be one of the best laws we would have on the books.
Lets keep our fingers crossed that some day it will happen.
It is sad that such a law even needs our attention. Why do people like the Anthony's even make it necessary to consider?
Have a good day Gert, and thanks.

Thanks Julie.. My blood just boils when I think of everything these people have done.. NONE OF IT GOOD!.. Yes It is sad.. you dont expect people who's child or grandchild who has been murdered to use that child as a meal ticket.. There needs to be a law against it.. And I didn't realize how bad until the A's came along.. It makes my stomach turn just thinking about how they've used Caylee for monetary gain..Its sickening...

Thought I ran everyone off with my rant..