View Full Version : Kristi Cornwell, 38, Blairsville, GA - 8/10/09
gacheer
08-13-2009, 08:54 AM
I do not know how to add the news link.
BLAIRSVILLE, Ga. -- Authorities are investigating the disappearance of a woman last seen walking for exercise Tuesday night on Jones Creek Road in Blairsville.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation identified the jogger as Kristi Cornwell, 38, of Blairsville. Investigators said Cornwell's family filed a report at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday with the Union County Sheriff's Office regarding her disappearance. Investigators said they have a reason to believe that foul play is involved.
Authorities described Cornwell as a white female, about 5 feet 5-inches tall and 150 pounds.
openminded
08-13-2009, 10:25 AM
That's a very rural area in the N. Georgia mountains.
Atlanta television reporter last night said she walked along that road daily, around the same time in the evening. Perhaps someone saw her walking previously and grabbed her (presumably someone local as the road is said to be out-of-the way but I suppose abductors travel remote roads as well and the person(s) could be non-local).
Presumably, her boyfriend has an alibi.
gacheer
08-13-2009, 10:30 AM
Her boyfriend was on the phone with her when she was abducted. And I read this morning he is not a suspect.
I attend the same church as the boyfriend. (Do not know anyone personally but know who the boyfriend)
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 11:08 AM
My first thought is, what would-be abductor takes someone WHILE they are on the PHONE? :confused: I've always thought, most criminals, risking a clue to them being relayed to the other person on the phone, wouldn't risk taking someone while they were in the middle of a call? :shrug:
She's very pretty though - I can see someone watching her afternoon walk routine....but I would have thought they'd wait until the next day, try to catch her not on the phone.
Sure hope they find her. :( It would be awful to hear something like that and not be able to do anything about it.
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 11:12 AM
My first thought is, what would-be abductor takes someone WHILE they are on the PHONE? :confused: I've always thought, most criminals, risking a clue to them being relayed to the other person on the phone, wouldn't risk taking someone while they were in the middle of a call? :shrug:
She's very pretty though - I can see someone watching her afternoon walk routine....but I would have thought they'd wait until the next day, try to catch her not on the phone.
Sure hope they find her. :( It would be awful to hear something like that and not be able to do anything about it.
True, BevAnn. Unless she had an earpiece and they couldn't see that she was talking. I'm hoping they weren't smart enough to leave the phone behind. It may be the only way to trace her.
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 11:16 AM
http://gbi.georgia.gov/vgn/images/portal/cit_11783501/88553817Sex%20Offender%20GA%20Map%2007012009.pdf
According to this, Union County has 23 registered sex offenders.
gacheer
08-13-2009, 11:16 AM
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133780&catid=40
Let's hope that she still has the cell and they can trace the signal to her.
I am hoping she still has phone also.
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 11:16 AM
Good point Kitty! But, I agree with what you said - Why so long to file the report - he HEARD her yelling for help during the walk (9:30) so why in the world would you not call 911 asap and try to get her help??
:huh:
gacheer
08-13-2009, 11:23 AM
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html
hmmm...The phone call was sometime around 9:30pm but the report wasn't filed until 1:30am. Even with driving time from Atl to Blairsville, it shouldn't take 4 hours to get that report filed. Wonder what the holdup was? And what did LE find at the scene that points to foul play?
Not sure why it says the report wasn't filed until then. We received an email from church time at 11:04. I am assumming it takes some time to gather the information b4 filing the report.
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 11:24 AM
The only Cornwell I can find on Jones Creek Road is a Harold. Could be father or ex. Anyhoooo...looks like a really remote area and the named road seems to branch off into similiar named roads...Jones Creek Road North, Jones Creek Lane. So exactly which one was she on?
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 11:43 AM
If she was abducted, which it sounds like she was, and LE was notified quickly, which they should have been since he was on the phone with her, I'd say the perp didn't get very far with her.
If he realized she WAS on the phone, he probably did what he was going to do to her quickly, and then dumped her. :sad: Knowing police would be looking soon.
I bet they find her on one of those back roads in a ditch. :crying: Bless her.
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 12:02 PM
Why does the thread title say she is 18? The articles say she's 38
typo? She looks 38 to me.
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 12:03 PM
If she was abducted, which it sounds like she was, and LE was notified quickly, which they should have been since he was on the phone with her, I'd say the perp didn't get very far with her.
If he realized she WAS on the phone, he probably did what he was going to do to her quickly, and then dumped her. :sad: Knowing police would be looking soon.
I bet they find her on one of those back roads in a ditch. :crying: Bless her.
Or stuffed into an old mine.
naiveinga
08-13-2009, 12:34 PM
I live less than a mile from the site....it is very remote with no lighting. Predominantly farmland with acres in between houses. I also know there are teenage children. Wondering if the children called police or if the boyfriend. There is so much the police aren't saying...understandably so. This is not looking good.
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 12:52 PM
oh happy, that is SO scary. :crying:
Wonder what LE evidence found to show it was an abduction? I've been trying to think of what would make them think that...?
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 01:00 PM
Glad you said it RR, cuz I was thinking it!! LOL
These cases just make you waaay cynical.
one other point that stuck out to me - saying don't take me, to the perp.
ohhh, the cuss words that'd be comin' outta my mouth!! :wink: I'd be all, Put me down $^$&^#$&!!
But I have to remember there are true random awful crimes such as this happening all the time too.
naiveinga
08-13-2009, 01:03 PM
Rachel, someone else in our neighborhood voiced the same concern...not about Kristi being involved in a hoax but maybe about the boyfriend. I supposed he could have set it up but that kind of thing is certainly hard to swallow when you recognize the face from PTA meetings and it becomes so real. I guess we always first think, "This couldn't possible be happening HERE."
Rachel, someone else in our neighborhood voiced the same concern...not about Kristi being involved in a hoax but maybe about the boyfriend. I supposed he could have set it up but that kind of thing is certainly hard to swallow when you recognize the face from PTA meetings and it becomes so real. I guess we always first think, "This couldn't possible be happening HERE."
Any new leads? Did she say anything else to the bf such as the type of car?
I'm assuming no street lights where she walked? Why would she walk there?
Hope they find her soon!
Not sure why it says the report wasn't filed until then. We received an email from church time at 11:04. I am assumming it takes some time to gather the information b4 filing the report.
yes the filed time would be when entered into the record, not the time cops arrived etc.
leema24
08-13-2009, 01:30 PM
Rachel, someone else in our neighborhood voiced the same concern...not about Kristi being involved in a hoax but maybe about the boyfriend. I supposed he could have set it up but that kind of thing is certainly hard to swallow when you recognize the face from PTA meetings and it becomes so real. I guess we always first think, "This couldn't possible be happening HERE."
naiveinga,
Does the person in the neighborhood know the boyfriend? Just curious if he/she was just speculating or has some reservations about this guy.
leema24
08-13-2009, 01:35 PM
Hmm. The boyfriend may not have told the media, or may not have told the police (or they may be keeping it quiet too, obviously) what all he may have heard but it was that statement, "don't take me" that struck me as unusual also.
During an abduction you'd hear other voices, running, car door slamming, tires screeching, etc. Maybe he heard all that and it wasn't reported in the media, which is completely believable.
Hopefully she'll be found safe and soon.
I agree that saying "don't take me" sounds a little strange, RR. Of course I have absolutely no idea how I would react in such a situation but it does seem odd.
omsk99
08-13-2009, 01:42 PM
Is this possibly a fraud? For someone who walks for exercise, how much "evidence of a crime" would be left if they were grabbed? Sorry to ALWAYS be the skeptic.
This reminds me of Meredith Emerson, who was abducted along with her dog also in a Georgia park by Gary Michael Hilton. She also left her belongings behind - dog treats, and something else, I can't remember now. It could have been a purse, or a wallet, or a water bottle. I think even if there was no blood or anything like that, her leaving her things behind in a park woudl indicate she was taken, because why would anyone leave their things behind?
As far as "don't take me", she might be a very soft-spoken person who just got scared. I can see myself saying that as much as a lot of "bad" words, hard to say how I would react in a situation like this. I think disbelief that it's happening to you kicks in first. JMO
So, she left her parents house to go for this walk. It sounds like her parents can verify the approx time she left? Does she have kids, naiveinga - you mention PTA?
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/GBI_Searches_for_Missing_Woman_081209
from a comment in omsk's link, apparently at least one child who is an honors student, Kirsty is very active in the church which was just a short distance away and the commenter would be shocked if this was spousal in nature
According to this link, Kristi has three exhusbands and a teenage son, who are all cooperating with the investigation. I would think if it were someone she knows, she would have shouted their name.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20373711/detail.html
A comment made at that site by a friend says that when they call the mothers house, an officer answers the phone and she/he isn't getting any information or calls back.
Does LE possibly think they will receive a ransom threat? That seems odd to me.
IS LE still an Kristy's moms house?
BevAnn
08-13-2009, 02:37 PM
You beat me to it leema!! :)
also, the one friends said this must be a new bf, as Kristi is a close friend, and hadn't mentioned him to her (which she said Kristi would talk about her bf's, etc) - wonder why Kristi hadn't mentioned him?
WHERE exactly was the bf? I know an earlier post/article said he was cleared - are we sure on this?
ETA: with omsk's post, I guess LE is pretty sure he's clear.
Ice Cycle
08-13-2009, 02:48 PM
I have just been reading up on this case and wanted to comment on her saying "don't take me" as I find that kind of odd if that is the only thing she said. I mean imo most people's first reaction would probably say, leave me alone or get away from me or something like that. It does though kind of sound like maybe she was signaling to the b/f to let him know someone was taking her without letting the abductor know someone was on the other line. Of course the b/f could just be trying to make all this sound that way. I wonder if they know of any cell phone pings, obviously according to b/f the phone was still on.
omsk99
08-13-2009, 02:49 PM
You beat me to it leema!! :)
also, the one friends said this must be a new bf, as Kristi is a close friend, and hadn't mentioned him to her (which she said Kristi would talk about her bf's, etc) - wonder why Kristi hadn't mentioned him?
WHERE exactly was the bf? I know an earlier post/article said he was cleared - are we sure on this?
ETA: with omsk's post, I guess LE is pretty sure he's clear.
Another interesting detail. I went onto Kristi's Facebook. It's set to private, but you can still see all of her FB freinds. Her BF is not there, which is a bit odd, but I guess not too unusuall - not everyone has a FB account...
I believe I read he was in Atlanta when this happened and I am sure they could check this out by his phone records especially since he was on the phone with her.
I don't think it's physically possible he could be involved, JMO.
omsk99
08-13-2009, 02:53 PM
You beat me to it leema!! :)
also, the one friends said this must be a new bf, as Kristi is a close friend, and hadn't mentioned him to her (which she said Kristi would talk about her bf's, etc) - wonder why Kristi hadn't mentioned him?
WHERE exactly was the bf? I know an earlier post/article said he was cleared - are we sure on this?
ETA: with omsk's post, I guess LE is pretty sure he's clear.
I think this was posted before, but here it's anyway:
"Director Keenan says Cornwell was talking with her boyfriend on her cell phone. Her boyfriend lives in the Atlanta area and the Director says he is not a suspect.
The boyfriend told investigators he heard a conversation that sounded like his girlfriend was being abducted. "She screamed for help and that was the last he heard," said Keenan."
http://www.11alive.com/rss/rss_story.aspx?storyid=133780
Heidi J.
08-13-2009, 08:59 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539328,00.html
Hundreds of people are searching for a woman missing since Tuesday who authorities say may have been abducted.
Kristi Cornwell was last seen walking along a north Georgia road and talking to her boyfriend. Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead says the boyfriend heard a "struggle" and called 911.
He said "the belief is it was a kidnapping and she is in danger."
:crying:
Leanne Weich
08-13-2009, 09:11 PM
I keep telling my kids not to walk and talk on their cell phones because they can't be fully aware of their surroundings while doing so. Do they listen - not a chance. I hope Kristi is found safe very soon.
dulcinea
08-13-2009, 10:44 PM
I think this woman already has a thread here. (I'll ask CW to combine them after I double check.)
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 11:57 PM
Is this possibly a fraud? For someone who walks for exercise, how much "evidence of a crime" would be left if they were grabbed? Sorry to ALWAYS be the skeptic.
A walking shoe, her cell, an ipod, a bottle of water, (and in my rural part of GA we carry a walking stick during dog days to keep the snakes at bay).
KittyMom
08-13-2009, 11:59 PM
As for what is being given as her comments that the bf overheard, I'd expect that LE isn't giving away all their info.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 12:02 AM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-items-114119.html
Missing Blairsville woman’s items found
GBI looking for white SUV and tan or gold car seen in area that night
Reliable witnesses have reported two vehicles in the area around the time Cornwell may have been abducted, and neither one belongs to anyone on the country road, Bankhead said.
The GBI is now looking for a large-size white SUV, and a tan or gold subcompact car, possibly a Toyota or Nissan, he said.
Investigators found personal belongings of Cornwell’s along Jones Creek Road, Bankhead said. He declined to say what those items were.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 12:04 AM
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/article/22262/
Authorities are not commenting on the evidence they’ve gathered in the case.
"There’s specific evidence we’re holding close the vest," Ayers said.
hmmmm....interesting
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 12:41 AM
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133824&catid=40
GBI Has Leads In "Abduction" Of Blairsville Woman
The boyfriend said he then heard screams and other sounds that sounded like she was being kidnapped.
So far, her cell phone has not been recovered.
The GBI also says a search of Cornwell's financial records shows that neither she or anyone else has withdrawn money from any of her accounts.
ahhhh....this might be why LE is keeping it close to the vest.
Cornwell grew up in Union County and once worked as a probation officer for the state.
The perp could be someone she supervised.
lookcareful
08-14-2009, 01:48 AM
I think it's great to try to be amateur detectives, but it's a good idea to google or search the facts before going down certain roads of suspicion. From the beginning it has been reported that the bf was on the call and the woman said "don't take me" and then screamed and that he immediately called 911.
I'm sure this was ascertained by the time-stamps of the call. Regardless of what was found in the area, the authorities would have known it was an abduction, immediately, based on the bf's report. Which, btw, could easily be corroborated with phone recordings which could be obtained in less than than 2 hours when the police or GBI requested them.
As a side note based on logic, when someone has not been found, most info is kept close so as not to "spook" the abductors who may go ahead and do something awful if they feel they are doomed. The investigators want to leak just enough for the abductors to know they're after them, but nothing else. There's also a good chance, based on circumstances, that whatever was found has human fluid on it and they wouldn't want the abductors to know that "they" (the investigators) know, or else this would spook the perps into "finishing" anything started. It's a psychological way of telling the abductors "we have faith in you to not go any further, so we're not going to insinuate you've done anything further".
mitzi
08-14-2009, 06:31 AM
I think it's great to try to be amateur detectives, but it's a good idea to google or search the facts before going down certain roads of suspicion. From the beginning it has been reported that the bf was on the call and the woman said "don't take me" and then screamed and that he immediately called 911.
I'm sure this was ascertained by the time-stamps of the call. Regardless of what was found in the area, the authorities would have known it was an abduction, immediately, based on the bf's report. Which, btw, could easily be corroborated with phone recordings which could be obtained in less than than 2 hours when the police or GBI requested them.
As a side note based on logic, when someone has not been found, most info is kept close so as not to "spook" the abductors who may go ahead and do something awful if they feel they are doomed. The investigators want to leak just enough for the abductors to know they're after them, but nothing else. There's also a good chance, based on circumstances, that whatever was found has human fluid on it and they wouldn't want the abductors to know that "they" (the investigators) know, or else this would spook the perps into "finishing" anything started. It's a psychological way of telling the abductors "we have faith in you to not go any further, so we're not going to insinuate you've done anything further".
I agree with what you are saying, and I understand your point.
That being said, I see you are new here. You will be glad to know that this message board has some of the best "armchair detectives". The folks here will, as any good detective will, explore all angles. It may seem unfair at times to look in a certain direction, such as the BF in this case, but statistics prove that this is worthwhile. Unfortunate, but true.
I don't post much, but I read here alot, and am often amazed with what information is put together. Hope you will stick around and see for yourself. :)
Prayers for Kristi Cornwell and her family.
Officials said they found items belonging to Cornwell -- giving them reason to believe she was abducted by someone who knew her routine.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20388155/detail.html
I wonder how they could determine that based on items found?
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133824&catid=40
GBI Has Leads In "Abduction" Of Blairsville Woman
ahhhh....this might be why LE is keeping it close to the vest.
The perp could be someone she supervised.
This really doesn't look good, the suspect pool is so big given her job :( and if she was about to turn someone back in i doubt this was for ransom.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 08:49 AM
Here is an update from the North Georgia news.
http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?Module=Quickpage&ID=17209&MemberID=1281
BevAnn
08-14-2009, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the update Mitzi.
Nothing really new...I just can't imagine what it would be like to hear all that happening and not be able to do anything about it!! Awful.:crying:
Hoping Kristi comes home today!
RainyNiteNTx
08-14-2009, 09:22 AM
My first thought is, what would-be abductor takes someone WHILE they are on the PHONE? :confused: I've always thought, most criminals, risking a clue to them being relayed to the other person on the phone, wouldn't risk taking someone while they were in the middle of a call? :shrug:
She's very pretty though - I can see someone watching her afternoon walk routine....but I would have thought they'd wait until the next day, try to catch her not on the phone.
Sure hope they find her. :( It would be awful to hear something like that and not be able to do anything about it.
Hey BevAnn - Dru Sjodin was abducted while she was on the cell phone with her boyfriend so it does happen. I'm wondering if they found her cell phone at the place she was abducted. Never mind - just read where they have not found her cell phone.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 09:27 AM
Thanks for the update Mitzi.
Nothing really new...I just can't imagine what it would be like to hear all that happening and not be able to do anything about it!! Awful.:crying:
Hoping Krisit comes home today!
No, nothing new. So frustrating. Can't imagine what that family is going through.
Wish I could at least go and help search, since I am about a half hour from there right now.
And I hope so too!
Hello All,
I keep checking for updates and even heard a breif report on the news but nothing new.
There is a National Park relatively close to Blairsville. Wonder if someone was in transit and has done this before but then they seem to think it could be someone she was familiar with?
Come home safe Kristi!!
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20388155/detail.html
It seems that volunteers are now on board so that is good news I guess!
"Once worked as a probation officer". THAT doesn't sound good. : (
How long ago was that? Does anyone know?
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 10:24 AM
I've tried looking up when she was with dept of probations. They only have 2007 and 2008 audits online. It lists salaries for employees. I don't see her name but we don't know how long she went by the Cornwell. That could be a recent change.
My brother works for a state LE agency in that area. I'm trying to get in touch with him to see if he's working this case.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 10:30 AM
I've tried looking up when she was with dept of probations. They only have 2007 and 2008 audits online. It lists salaries for employees. I don't see her name but we don't know how long she went by the Cornwell. That could be a recent change.
My brother works for a state LE agency in that area. I'm trying to get in touch with him to see if he's working this case.
Hi Kitty! You may want to check using the last names Brackett or Cody. If I am not mistaken, those were both married names for her, just don't know when.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm reading/hearing that the boyfriend overheard a struggle. I wonder if he heard a voice other than Kristi's? Also, I would think that abducting someone in car would be easier as you'd have a trunk available to contain them. With an SUV you'd have space in which they might struggle or move around in. Unless there was more than one person involved.
Let's pray LE finds those vehicles and they lead to Kristi. Too much time is passing.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 10:35 AM
Hi Kitty! You may want to check using the last names Brackett or Cody. If I am not mistaken, those were both married names for her, just don't know when.
Thanks! I'm assuming that Cornwell is her maiden name as her brother is Richard Cornwell.
Here is the link for the open records site for GA
http://www.open.georgia.gov/
mitzi
08-14-2009, 10:52 AM
Thanks! I'm assuming that Cornwell is her maiden name as her brother is Richard Cornwell.
Here is the link for the open records site for GA
http://www.open.georgia.gov/
Thanks Kitty!
Just read on a Topix post by a local person, that the GBI said she knew the person, and that it was an ex-BF that people had seen in the area.
Please take with a grain of salt, as I am just relaying this, and it could be completely untrue.
My SIL is going over to take supplies/lunch items to searchers. I will check with her after.
The article doesn't say, but I hope they're looking at new releases from prison/jail that were her charges.
She seems an unlikely candidate for a stranger abduction. I hope they are able to track down leads and pray for the slim chance that she is safe.
TY I couldn't find anything with dates either. Maybe it's some wanna be boyfriend or young teenager who was attracted to her. Seeing her walking regularly a person like that might be tempted to snatch her up.
I wonder WHAT was at the scene that would lead them to beleive she was abducted? I guess anything left behind of hers would inidicate something happened. And, the bf hearing what he did add 2 + 2 and you have abduction.
I don't know this is so sad. Where is she?
mitzi
08-14-2009, 11:28 AM
I was wondering about the someone she knew angle because in one of the first news reports they stated that a witness had seen her walking with a man??
TBI, I had forgotten about that. They did say she was walking with someone, and then a little while later she was seen walking alone near the church. Maybe she thought that he had moved on, but he was waiting till it was dark. Who knows.....it's just sad....
By the way, I love your sig line!!
Mitzi
leema24
08-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Officials Want To Talk With 2 Drivers In Missing Woman Case
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20398721/detail.html
"GBI agents said they do have some strong leads but still no suspects in the case. One of the leads has expanded the search area beyond the location where Cornwell’s belongings were found. Other leads have given agents two car descriptions to go on, police said.
Witnesses told investigators they saw a large, white SUV -- similar to a Suburban -- and a small, gold or tan subcompact car -- maybe a Toyota or Nissan -- driving slowly in the area of Jones Creek Road where Cornwell was last seen."
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 02:13 PM
http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail.php?n=222470
The victim, Christy Cornwell, reportedly has a law enforcement background, and investigators are trying to determine why she may have been targeted.
I hope they look at her old cases. She may've had a probationer that turned into a stalker.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 02:15 PM
Thanks Kitty!
Just read on a Topix post by a local person, that the GBI said she knew the person, and that it was an ex-BF that people had seen in the area.
Please take with a grain of salt, as I am just relaying this, and it could be completely untrue.
My SIL is going over to take supplies/lunch items to searchers. I will check with her after.
That is so sweet of your sil to do that. It's very hot this time of year. Those guys/gals will surely appreciate it.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 04:11 PM
There may be something happening on Hwy 325 near the Shell and the Masonic Lodge. According to a local person, the Shell is now full of news crews and LE. They also said there is a roadblock there. Not sure how long ago they might have set up a road block, but it must have been in the last several minutes. It wasn't there 30-45 minutes ago when my dad went down 325 on his way home.
Oh Mitzi, praying for good results! Please keep us posted as you hear!
TY
darcie
08-14-2009, 05:15 PM
keeping my fingers crossed.....with hope for Kristi, and her family
thefarm7
08-14-2009, 05:20 PM
I am new to the group. I have been reading the posts about Kristi.
She is a friend of mine whom I've known about 2 1/2 years. I know that in the past year or so she married Richard Graham. The last time I spoke with her, they were facing divorce. During the time I've known her, she worked at Home Depot and then somewhere else. Kristi is a fine young lady. Please pray for her safe return.
darcie
08-14-2009, 05:27 PM
thanks for posting thefarm7. i am so sorry about your friend. I imagine it makes everyone that is close to her step back and take a closer look at life. Please know that friends and family are being thought of and prayed for!
Kristi's case was just discussed on HLN and there was nothing reported about the roadblock.
Kristi's brother was on the phone with Mike Galanos. The lady from AMW was on the show as well.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 07:19 PM
This story will be on JVM any minute.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 07:31 PM
This story will be on JVM any minute.
It wasn't anything new, but it still gets the word out.
CFMom
08-14-2009, 07:59 PM
I am new to the group. I have been reading the posts about Kristi.
She is a friend of mine whom I've known about 2 1/2 years. I know that in the past year or so she married Richard Graham. The last time I spoke with her, they were facing divorce. During the time I've known her, she worked at Home Depot and then somewhere else. Kristi is a fine young lady. Please pray for her safe return.
Welcome to the board and sorry for what you are going through. I'm praying for a happy ending.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 08:13 PM
On NG now.
Prayers for Kristi and her family.
Meridian
08-14-2009, 08:34 PM
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I'm sure this was ascertained by the time-stamps of the call. Regardless of what was found in the area, the authorities would have known it was an abduction, immediately, based on the bf's report. Which, btw, could easily be corroborated with phone recordings which could be obtained in less than than 2 hours when the police or GBI requested them.
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(Bolding added)
"Phone recordings"; are you saying that the boyfriend recorded the conversation? Surely you don't think that cell phone calls are randomly recorded.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 09:29 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-womans-friends-plan-115782.html
Missing woman’s friends plan prayer
Search dogs and blood hounds were brought in Friday to assist numerous law enforcement agencies with the search, Bankhead said.
I really wish they could find her or catch a break on finding those cars.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 09:33 PM
http://www.11alive.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=133868&catid=165
Friday evening, the bloodhounds were working a hilly area on the other side of U.S. 78, and a few miles, from where Cornwell disappeared. Bankhead would not elaborate about the various areas where the bloodhounds were being used and why those areas were chosen.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 09:37 PM
http://www.11alive.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=133868&catid=165
Hi Kitty, thanks for the link.
As of half an hour ago, there is now a road block at Hwy 325 at a local Masonic lodge, and they are continuing to search. This may be the area they didn't mention. It is a few miles north on the east side of highway 78 from where Kristi went missing.
KittyMom
08-14-2009, 09:45 PM
Hi Kitty, thanks for the link.
As of half an hour ago, there is now a road block at Hwy 325 at a local Masonic lodge, and they are continuing to search. This may be the area they didn't mention. It is a few miles north on the east side of highway 78 from where Kristi went missing.
Let's pray this is a good lead for LE.
mitzi
08-14-2009, 10:17 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-cell-116172.html
Cell phone has been found.
Meridian
08-14-2009, 10:31 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-cell-116172.html
Cell phone has been found.
Oh my. Continued prayers for her.
~jomomma~
08-14-2009, 10:51 PM
I am new to the group. I have been reading the posts about Kristi.
She is a friend of mine whom I've known about 2 1/2 years. I know that in the past year or so she married Richard Graham. The last time I spoke with her, they were facing divorce. During the time I've known her, she worked at Home Depot and then somewhere else. Kristi is a fine young lady. Please pray for her safe return.
what is this guy like, i wonder?
that's not very long to be married. did they fight? what was the problem?
~jomomma~
08-14-2009, 10:59 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-cell-116172.html
Cell phone has been found.
thanks
i don't know, if it was me, i think i'd want to be there to help.
from that link:
Davis, who said he is not in Blairsville and is with his family, wants to avoid attention from various media outlets that have focused on the efforts to find Cornwell.
“I’m trying to avoid the circus atmosphere,” said Davis. “I just don’t feel like it’s appropriate.”
also, it said he calls her his fiance. she's still married and going thru divorce.
ttcRider
08-14-2009, 11:09 PM
So her boyfriend has been cleared as a suspect, what about her husband?? I'm getting confused. :confused:
customm
08-15-2009, 12:05 AM
I live less than a mile from the site....it is very remote with no lighting. Predominantly farmland with acres in between houses. I also know there are teenage children. Wondering if the children called police or if the boyfriend. There is so much the police aren't saying...understandably so. This is not looking good.
I to am from Union County, and as you and I both know it only take from 5 to 25 min for you to go from Ga to TN or NC and the same amount of time to go to 2 other counties in Ga, from the time the first call was made to the police until they got to the scene these ppl could have went anywhere, and no alert would have been put out until police checked to see if it was a true or false report, 2 or 3 hours at the least.
KittyMom
08-15-2009, 12:16 AM
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133869&catid=40
Kristi Cornwell's Cell Phone Found
Friday evening, the GBI said they found Kristi Cornwell's cell phone a few miles away from where the Union County woman went missing this week near Blairsville.
The new break came at about 5:30 Friday afternoon along Nottely Dam Road -- about 3½ miles from where Cornwell vanished Tuesday night.
A homeowner was mowing his lawn and noticed a cell phone lying in the grass near the roadside. He then called the Union County Sheriff. Searchers quickly sealed off the area as darkness fell and by 9 p.m., GBI Director Vernon Keenan confirmed that the cell phone belonged to Kristi Cornwell, who was kidnapped while talking on it.
Crap! I was hoping the perp wasn't smart enough to ditch the cell.
lune3
08-15-2009, 12:28 AM
I've just read the last three pages. This is so sad and frightening. I'm wondering about Kristi's short marriage and divorce proceedings and the fact she has a boyfriend. Not that suspicions should necessarily be immediately directed at the husband, but why such a short marriage?
Does anyone know the make of the husband's car? However, it was mentioned that neither the white SUV nor the tan small car were local.
Does the husband live somewhere else or in the same area? When did Kristi move out? I hope LE is investigating whether any "friends" of the husband have such a vehicle.
Also, if a witness saw Kristi walking with a man, could the witness have described him? It was still light at 8 :15 I expect.
Time is so very crucial.
kakax
08-15-2009, 02:05 PM
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133869&catid=40
Kristi Cornwell's Cell Phone Found
Crap! I was hoping the perp wasn't smart enough to ditch the cell.
Let's hope he was stupid enough to leave his prints on it. Prayers for Kristi and her loved ones!
mitzi
08-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Not confirmed, but appears to be correct-
Kristi was found earlier today under a bridge on Pat Colwell Road. So very sad.
Prayers for the family.......
just42day97
08-15-2009, 03:18 PM
Not confirmed, but appears to be correct-
Kristi was found earlier today under a bridge on Pat Colwell Road. So very sad.
Prayers for the family.......
Oh no.....was praying she would be found safe....
CFMom
08-15-2009, 03:20 PM
Not confirmed, but appears to be correct-
Kristi was found earlier today under a bridge on Pat Colwell Road. So very sad.
Prayers for the family.......
Where did you hear that? Is there a link I can read at? Poor Kristi and family :(:crying:
~jomomma~
08-15-2009, 03:28 PM
Not confirmed, but appears to be correct-
Kristi was found earlier today under a bridge on Pat Colwell Road. So very sad.
Prayers for the family.......
ohh nooo!! :crying:
ohhhh, i'm so sick of this!!! :angry:
mitzi
08-15-2009, 03:29 PM
Where did you hear that? Is there a link I can read at? Poor Kristi and family :(:crying:
I found it at Topix in the Blairsville forum. There was a also a comment on WSBTV from someone saying the same, and saying there was a prayer service for her Sunday morning.
I had read earlier today that there was alot going on at the 2nd bridge on Pat Colwell Road, but thought they might just be spreading out. It sounds like they went there due to a call from some fisherman.
Again, none of this is confirmed by any news outlet, just from the local forum. My parents live around the corner from the bridge. I'm hoping they can tell me something soon.
~jomomma~
08-15-2009, 03:31 PM
how far is that from where she was picked up? (if you know)
Ice Cycle
08-15-2009, 03:41 PM
how far is that from where she was picked up? (if you know)
Just heard and this is what I was wondering, how sad.
mitzi
08-15-2009, 03:51 PM
Just heard and this is what I was wondering, how sad.
If I had to guess, I'd say about 6 miles.
Still not getting any confirmation. Nothing from local news yet. Hoping to find that before I have to leave here in a few minutes.
mitzi
08-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Now there is a post saying not found. I'm trying to relay this as it is being posted. So if this was false information, I do apologize. I probably should have waited for a news channel.
Again, if this info is untrue, I am terribly sorry.
lune3
08-15-2009, 03:59 PM
Oh no, this is so awful.......I have been checking in hoping for some good news. I am hoping that this info is a misunderstanding and not true.
Speak Out
08-15-2009, 03:59 PM
I just got off the phone with the lead investigator of this case. Kristi has NOT been found. Divers were searching under the bridge, that's all. She wasn't found. Please keep praying!
mitzi
08-15-2009, 04:04 PM
I just got off the phone with the lead investigator of this case. Kristi has NOT been found. Divers were searching under the bridge, that's all. She wasn't found. Please keep praying!
I'm so very sorry I posted without confirmation. I know better, and should have waited.
lune3
08-15-2009, 04:11 PM
If there is a lot of activity under that bridge, it's possible something may have been found, something to lead them to such a search?
KittyMom
08-15-2009, 04:21 PM
I'm not seeing anything in media about Kristi being found.
CFMom
08-15-2009, 04:25 PM
I found it at Topix in the Blairsville forum. There was a also a comment on WSBTV from someone saying the same, and saying there was a prayer service for her Sunday morning.
I had read earlier today that there was alot going on at the 2nd bridge on Pat Colwell Road, but thought they might just be spreading out. It sounds like they went there due to a call from some fisherman.
Again, none of this is confirmed by any news outlet, just from the local forum. My parents live around the corner from the bridge. I'm hoping they can tell me something soon.
Wow ty! so much for the info. Praying....:crying:
CFMom
08-15-2009, 04:27 PM
I'm so very sorry I posted without confirmation. I know better, and should have waited.
Hey don't be sorry you made it clear it wasn't 100%..I for one appreciated it alot.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 04:46 PM
On NG now.
Prayers for Kristi and her family.
Hi! I watched Nancy's show last night and did I hear correctly that another incident happened with Kristi just recently while she was out walking? I wonder if somebody was stalking her. She's a brave woman to be walking around at night out there. I'm just praying she's found safe. :sad: MOO
sunstar
08-15-2009, 04:48 PM
Let's hope he was stupid enough to leave his prints on it. Prayers for Kristi and her loved ones!
I'm hoping so too. Finding the phone also is a clue what area she was in.
CFMom
08-15-2009, 05:09 PM
Hi! I watched Nancy's show last night and did I hear correctly that another incident happened with Kristi just recently while she was out walking? I wonder if somebody was stalking her. She's a brave woman to be walking around at night out there. I'm just praying she's found safe. :sad: MOO
Brave or crazy. I sure wouldnt be out alone on a dark road. I read to many missing persons cases to ever do that.
lune3
08-15-2009, 05:16 PM
Locals on the Topix forum are saying that the dive team has left the area. I'm wondering what led the team to search there in the first place. It was stated in one of the news links that bloodhounds were being used. Might a scent have been picked up? or is the bridge area in the vicinity of where the phone was found, or on the route? Looking on a map on another forum, there is a large lake, lots of little inlets.
Praying that Kristi is found safe.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Brave or crazy. I sure wouldnt be out alone on a dark road. I read to many missing persons cases to ever do that.
I'd never go out alone at night like that either but maybe this is an area where people all know each other and she felt safe. I do remember that comment on NG's show though and it was even followed up with somebody on the show saying they're surprised she'd still go out walking at night. I'd just like to know more about that prior incident and if it could be related to her abduction. :sad: MOO
CFMom
08-15-2009, 05:22 PM
I'd never go out alone at night like that either but maybe this is an area where people all know each other and she felt safe. I do remember that comment on NG's show though and it was even followed up with somebody on the show saying they're surprised she'd still go out walking at night. I'd just like to know more about that prior incident and if it could be related to her abduction. :sad: MOO
You cant be to careful now days. Its sad but true. Maybe we will hear about the prior soon. I hope so.
Speak Out
08-15-2009, 05:24 PM
A dive team is going to be needed to search each area with deeper water. I know it's hard when we all want news, especially good news, but please try not read too much into things. There are several bodies of water in the area, and they will need to be searched, too. Again, I know it's hard to wait, but, if it helps, the people working on this are truly the best in the business. If I (or anyone in my own family) were missing, they are the ones I would want on the case.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 05:38 PM
You cant be to careful now days. Its sad but true. Maybe we will hear about the prior soon. I hope so.
You're absolutely right. And the worst thing for a person alone is to set up too much of a routine that somebody else who might be watching can follow. I'm also wondering if there's any new construction or anything going on in the area that would've brought in transient workers?
CFMom
08-15-2009, 05:43 PM
You're absolutely right. And the worst thing for a person alone is to set up too much of a routine that somebody else who might be watching can follow. I'm also wondering if there's any new construction or anything going on in the area that would've brought in transient workers?
I feel its someone who knew her and knew she walked and used this as a time to snatch her. I agree, being routine is a no no.
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 05:46 PM
I am wondering why most of these posts are pointing to a stranger abduction? Did I miss something? Has her husband been ruled out?
CFMom
08-15-2009, 05:50 PM
I am wondering why most of these posts are pointing to a stranger abduction? Did I miss something? Has her husband been ruled out?
As I just posted, I feel the person knew her. This is only my opinion though.
lune3
08-15-2009, 05:51 PM
You're absolutely right. And the worst thing for a person alone is to set up too much of a routine that somebody else who might be watching can follow. I'm also wondering if there's any new construction or anything going on in the area that would've brought in transient workers?
It's hard to speculate whether the abductor is someone she knows or a stranger. I have a nagging feeling it's someone known to her though. Just the initial "please don't take me " statement, with evidently no initial panic in the voice. And who was she seen walking with earlier?
I still wonder about her divorce proceedings after a short marriage and the fact that she has a new man in her life. I'd like to know if her husband has been ruled out too.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 06:06 PM
I feel its someone who knew her and knew she walked and used this as a time to snatch her. I agree, being routine is a no no.
I think it's someone who at least knew she was out walking alone every night. MOO
Speak Out
08-15-2009, 06:06 PM
It's hard to speculate whether the abductor is someone she knows or a stranger. I have a nagging feeling it's someone known to her though. Just the initial "please don't take me " statement, with evidently no initial panic in the voice. And who was she seen walking with earlier?
I still wonder about her divorce proceedings after a short marriage and the fact that she has a new man in her life. I'd like to know if her husband has been ruled out too.
There's no way to print "panic" in someone's voice, so I would assume that it was there. The full transcripts of that call have not been released, anyway.
From the released police statements, they have made it clear that the ex-husbands and current boyfriend are not suspects. That would indicate that they have evidence to back that up.
What they need help from the public with right now is finding information about a white suv and gold compact car that were seen in the area. Also, if any women in the area have been approached by a strange man lately, that information would be helpful.
Keep praying, please!
sunstar
08-15-2009, 06:09 PM
It's hard to speculate whether the abductor is someone she knows or a stranger. I have a nagging feeling it's someone known to her though. Just the initial "please don't take me " statement, with evidently no initial panic in the voice. And who was she seen walking with earlier?
I still wonder about her divorce proceedings after a short marriage and the fact that she has a new man in her life. I'd like to know if her husband has been ruled out too.
Her words "please don't take me" don't sound like something you'd say if it was a total stranger attempting to abduct you but I'd like to hear her voice though, maybe there was more of a panicked sound to it than has been reported. MOO
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Does anyone else think 'please don't take me' is an odd thing to say? If someone you knew or even didnt know surprised you wouldnt your reaction be What do you want? or Leave me alone?? Sorry, I'm probably going to be chased from this thread for saying this but it just doesnt sit well with me. :chicken: How would she know 'they' were going to take her anywhere?? There must have been more to that telephone conversation.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 06:18 PM
Does anyone else think 'please don't take me' is an odd thing to say? If someone you knew or even didnt know surprised you wouldnt your reaction be What do you want? or Leave me alone?? Sorry, I'm probably going to be chased from this thread for saying this but it just doesnt sit well with me. :chicken: How would she know 'they' were going to take her anywhere?? There must have been more to that telephone conversation.
No, I agree with you! I too think there's more to what was said on the phone. From what I understand she was walking on the road, a car came up behind her and she was abducted but what's missing is how many people were in the car and what was said to her. :confused: MOO
lune3
08-15-2009, 06:22 PM
There's no way to print "panic" in someone's voice, so I would assume that it was there. The full transcripts of that call have not been released, anyway.
From the released police statements, they have made it clear that the ex-husbands and current boyfriend are not suspects. That would indicate that they have evidence to back that up.
What they need help from the public with right now is finding information about a white suv and gold compact car that were seen in the area. Also, if any women in the area have been approached by a strange man lately, that information would be helpful.
Keep praying, please!
Thank you for the information on the ex husbands not being suspects.
I hope information comes forth quickly regarding those two vehicles. I also hope LE has some info or description on who was seen walking with Kristi earlier that night.
lune3
08-15-2009, 06:37 PM
Does anyone else think 'please don't take me' is an odd thing to say? If someone you knew or even didnt know surprised you wouldnt your reaction be What do you want? or Leave me alone?? Sorry, I'm probably going to be chased from this thread for saying this but it just doesnt sit well with me. :chicken: How would she know 'they' were going to take her anywhere?? There must have been more to that telephone conversation.
I don't know, it doesn't seem odd to me. Everyone is different. Rather than being confrontational, in her fear she may have expressed that as a plea. Kristi was alone on a stretch of road. Maybe she understood immediately how helpless and vulnerable she was and that if she fought or tried to run, it would make the person angrier or more violent. Maybe he/they had a weapon and she feared being hurt.
We don't know how we would react in such a fearful situation.
openminded
08-15-2009, 07:41 PM
I don't know, it doesn't seem odd to me. Everyone is different. Rather than being confrontational, in her fear she may have expressed that as a plea. Kristi was alone on a stretch of road. Maybe she understood immediately how helpless and vulnerable she was and that if she fought or tried to run, it would make the person angrier or more violent. Maybe he/they had a weapon and she feared being hurt.
We don't know how we would react in such a fearful situation.
I have to respectfully disagree. LE will tell you to do whatever you can in order not to be taken because once you are under someone else's control the odds are not good that you will survive.
It's possible, of course, that she did fight not to be taken and was overwhelmed. Or, as you said, had a gun pointed in her face. But not fighting, or not trying to run, because you are afraid you will make the person more angry is playing a losing game, IMO. It's true they might be angry enough to kill you then and there. On the other hand they might give up and go away.
I hope and pray that Kristi beats the odds.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 07:48 PM
I don't know, it doesn't seem odd to me. Everyone is different. Rather than being confrontational, in her fear she may have expressed that as a plea. Kristi was alone on a stretch of road. Maybe she understood immediately how helpless and vulnerable she was and that if she fought or tried to run, it would make the person angrier or more violent. Maybe he/they had a weapon and she feared being hurt.
We don't know how we would react in such a fearful situation.
The more I think about what she said, and without actually hearing her voice, it seems there might have been more than one person. If they were in the car, and it stopped, maybe one of them got out and grabbed her while the other one was still in the driver's seat. :shrug: MOO
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 07:55 PM
She hopefully told her bf more of what was happening while she was on the phone with him.. like telling him to call the police theres a man here who has a gun or someone is getting out of their car and approaching me?? There has to be more to that call. The person who grabbed her would have to have someone with him or he would have to put the car in park, get out, walk over to her... etc etc. She was on the phone at the time, not like she didnt have time to call 911 or something. Just weird to try and figure out. Hopefully we get some good news soon. :sad:
sunstar
08-15-2009, 08:06 PM
She hopefully told her bf more of what was happening while she was on the phone with him.. like telling him to call the police theres a man here who has a gun or someone is getting out of their car and approaching me?? There has to be more to that call. The person who grabbed her would have to have someone with him or he would have to put the car in park, get out, walk over to her... etc etc. She was on the phone at the time, not like she didnt have time to call 911 or something. Just weird to try and figure out. Hopefully we get some good news soon. :sad:
That's why I'm leaning toward there being more than one person. One jumps out and suddenly grabs her, while the other one stays in the car. MOO
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Are there any pictures of the road she was on? Were there no houses along this road? Was it a dirt road in the country?? Can I ask more than 3 questions per post? :laugh:
Leanne Weich
08-15-2009, 08:17 PM
Last night on FNC when they were reporting on this case they said the boygriend became alarmed when he heard a scuffle over the phone just before it went dead. No link as it was what I heard.
lune3
08-15-2009, 08:21 PM
Since she was on the phone with her bf when the car approached, I would have thought that if she recognized the car, or the person inside, she would have said something to that effect. According to what we know, she just said a car was approaching. That makes me now wonder whether this was a stranger after all, ...but then, it was already dark and the headlights may have prevented her from seeing well.
Hopefully, she did relate something that has not been reported, but things probably happened very fast.
openminded
08-15-2009, 08:25 PM
Are there any pictures of the road she was on? Were there no houses along this road? Was it a dirt road in the country?? Can I ask more than 3 questions per post? :laugh:
I saw some video of the road on one of the Atlanta TV stations. There are houses but they are spread fairly far apart (I'm in the city where houses are very close together so anything beyond what I'm used to looks far apart to me -- maybe they really aren't that far apart but they didn't look close either).
It's very rural but a paved road. A friend of hers said when she had gone to visit Kristi she had never seen any cars traveling on the road so it's probably people who live in the area for the most part who are on there.
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:28 PM
Thanks OpenMinded, I tried to find some photos but couldnt see any in the links, may try my hand at google earth...
I was also thinking since she was previously a probations officier she would be trained in self defense and would know what to do in dangerous situations, no? :confused: Off to google...
lune3
08-15-2009, 08:28 PM
Are there any pictures of the road she was on? Were there no houses along this road? Was it a dirt road in the country?? Can I ask more than 3 questions per post? :laugh:
I wonder whether they can glean any information from tire tracks if it was a dirt road, or a dirt shoulder. Hopefully some info will be forthcoming regarding the two strange vehicles. An SUV and a small Toyota/Nissan would have different size tires. At least they could rule one of those vehicles out.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 08:32 PM
Thanks OpenMinded, I tried to find some photos but couldnt see any in the links, may try my hand at google earth...
I was also thinking since she was previously a probations officier she would be trained in self defense and would know what to do in dangerous situations, no? :confused: Off to google...
I agree about her self-defense training, but two men would definitely be able to overpower her. MOO
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:36 PM
I sure hope I did this right... if not I will delete.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Jones+Creek+Rd,+Blairsville,+Union,+Georgia+3051 2,+United+States&sll=49.894634,-97.119141&sspn=27.154178,78.662109&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=Fer_EwIdB5X8-g&split=0&ll=34.86632,-84.110084&spn=0.004208,0.009602&t=h&z=17
sorry, I dont know how to do 'tiny' :blushing:
openminded
08-15-2009, 08:36 PM
Thanks OpenMinded, I tried to find some photos but couldnt see any in the links, may try my hand at google earth...
I was also thinking since she was previously a probations officier she would be trained in self defense and would know what to do in dangerous situations, no? :confused: Off to google...
Yes, I would have thought that as well. That's why I lean toward thinking it was someone she knew.
I might have seen the video on either the Fox station (myfoxatlanta) or the NBC station (11alive). This is a link from last night's story and video from the local Fox station. It's not the one I saw originally that has better shots of the road.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/Key_Evidence_Found_in_Missing_Woman_Case_081409
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:40 PM
I agree about her self-defense training, but two men would definitely be able to overpower her. MOO
true, I was thinking one was still in the drivers seat. :confused: jmo's of course.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 08:43 PM
I sure hope I did this right... if not I will delete.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Jones+Creek+Rd,+Blairsville,+Union,+Georgia+3051 2,+United+States&sll=49.894634,-97.119141&sspn=27.154178,78.662109&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=Fer_EwIdB5X8-g&split=0&ll=34.86632,-84.110084&spn=0.004208,0.009602&t=h&z=17
sorry, I dont know how to do 'tiny' :blushing:
Thanks so much! Is that area of the road marked "A" right where she would've been taken from?
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
Thanks so much! Is that area of the road marked "A" right where she would've been taken from?
no, thats just the indicator of the road itself, I'm not that savvy. :wink: Not sure how far up the road she got before she was abducted. I couldnt find exact location in our threads. I just wanted an idea of what the road looked like itself.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
true, I was thinking one was still in the drivers seat. :confused: jmo's of course.
I think that too, but if she put up too much of a struggle he could've gotten out and helped his accomplice get her into the car. MOO
sunstar
08-15-2009, 08:48 PM
no, thats just the indicator of the road itself, I'm not that savvy. :wink: Not sure how far up the road she got before she was abducted. I couldnt find exact location in our threads.
I don't know the exact location either, but it still gives a good idea of the area. :smile: Nancy had video on her show last night too and it does look it would be very desolate and dark at night.
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 08:53 PM
I understand she wasnt far from her church so on the google map look up New Union Baptist Church and from there we can get an idea of how far she was on Jones Creek Road. :confused: I also think she was going North. JMO
lune3
08-15-2009, 08:54 PM
Thanks so much! Is that area of the road marked "A" right where she would've been taken from?
This map shows a highway running parallel. You'd think that people who are not locals wouldn't normally take this road, especially at night. This makes me inclined to believe this was not an opportunistic crime by a non local stranger but that the perp (s) either lives in the area or is someone who was watching her and knew her routine.
I wonder if it was on this particular road that the SUV and the tan car were seen.
lune3
08-15-2009, 08:58 PM
I think that too, but if she put up too much of a struggle he could've gotten out and helped his accomplice get her into the car. MOO
IF one of those two vehicles was involved, I'd think that if it was the SUV, there would have had to be two men involved (well unless a guy had a gun pointed at her while driving). In the smaller car, one man could have forced her into the trunk.
openminded
08-15-2009, 08:59 PM
I don't know the exact location either, but it still gives a good idea of the area. :smile: Nancy had video on her show last night too and it does look it would be very desolate and dark at night.
I believe one of the Atlanta stations initially said 453 Jones Creek Road.
I'll try to link it.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=453+Jones+Creek+Road+Blairsville+GA&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIT_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=blmHSt-YHaGBtweY1NTnDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
She walked to her church (Union Baptist, I think) which is supposedly nearby although somewhere I read it was a 4 mile loop.
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 09:06 PM
I believe one of the Atlanta stations initially said 453 Jones Creek Road.
I'll try to link it.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=453+Jones+Creek+Road+Blairsville+GA&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIT_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=blmHSt-YHaGBtweY1NTnDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
She walked to her church (Union Baptist, I think) which is supposedly nearby although somewhere I read it was a 4 mile loop.
IIRC I think I read that there were no street lights either? Looks like a pretty scary walk to me to do in the evening. :mellow: Not that that should matter, please don't misunderstand. I'm just scared of the dark.
openminded
08-15-2009, 09:09 PM
IIRC I think I read that there were no street lights either? Looks like a pretty scary walk to me to do in the evening. :mellow:
Yes, I believe there are no street lights around. I personally wouldn't do it. This time of year, it's very dark that time of night. My guess is that she grew up in that area and felt very safe.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 09:23 PM
I believe one of the Atlanta stations initially said 453 Jones Creek Road.
I'll try to link it.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=453+Jones+Creek+Road+Blairsville+GA&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGIT_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=blmHSt-YHaGBtweY1NTnDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1
She walked to her church (Union Baptist, I think) which is supposedly nearby although somewhere I read it was a 4 mile loop.
Thanks so much! It still looks like the same rural terrain with the highway (on the right side of the map) parallel to Jones Creek Rd. I'm curious just how much traffic is normally on the road she walked at that time of night and who could've seen her on previous occasions. MOO
sunstar
08-15-2009, 09:26 PM
This map shows a highway running parallel. You'd think that people who are not locals wouldn't normally take this road, especially at night. This makes me inclined to believe this was not an opportunistic crime by a non local stranger but that the perp (s) either lives in the area or is someone who was watching her and knew her routine.
I wonder if it was on this particular road that the SUV and the tan car were seen.
I'd also think that most of the traffic would be on the highway and that's why she felt safe walking at night. Being that it was so dark, it seems if somebody knew she did it all the time, that it was someone she knew. MOO
openminded
08-15-2009, 09:29 PM
Thanks so much! It still looks like the same rural terrain with the highway (on the right side of the map) parallel to Jones Creek Rd. I'm curious just how much traffic is normally on the road she walked at that time of night and who could've seen her on previous occasions. MOO
Supposedly that road is basically used by very local traffic only.
sunstar
08-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Supposedly that road is basically used by very local traffic only.
Thanks again! :wink:
KittyMom
08-15-2009, 09:38 PM
In defense of Kristi, I too walk late in the evening. During the summer, it really doesn't get that terribly dark until around 9. It also doesn't start to cool off until that time. Granted, I live a couple hundred miles south of Kristi. I carry my cell (I can play music on it or chat with friends) and when, I remember, a flashlight. My road also loops. It's a lot easier than driving into town to the walking track. I can get my kids settled for the night and leave hubby in charge and go get my walk in and a little me time. I will admit that the past two nights I've been a bit unsettled with Kristi's story in my mind, but I've still walked.
ttcRider
08-15-2009, 09:48 PM
In defense of Kristi, I too walk late in the evening. During the summer, it really doesn't get that terribly dark until around 9. It also doesn't start to cool off until that time. Granted, I live a couple hundred miles south of Kristi. I carry my cell (I can play music on it or chat with friends) and when, I remember, a flashlight. My road also loops. It's a lot easier than driving into town to the walking track. I can get my kids settled for the night and leave hubby in charge and go get my walk in and a little me time. I will admit that the past two nights I've been a bit unsettled with Kristi's story in my mind, but I've still walked.
I don't think any of us are blaming her for walking down this road at night, at least I'm not... there are just as many daytime abductions these days and in more populated areas. :sad:
sunstar
08-15-2009, 09:57 PM
In defense of Kristi, I too walk late in the evening. During the summer, it really doesn't get that terribly dark until around 9. It also doesn't start to cool off until that time. Granted, I live a couple hundred miles south of Kristi. I carry my cell (I can play music on it or chat with friends) and when, I remember, a flashlight. My road also loops. It's a lot easier than driving into town to the walking track. I can get my kids settled for the night and leave hubby in charge and go get my walk in and a little me time. I will admit that the past two nights I've been a bit unsettled with Kristi's story in my mind, but I've still walked.
I don't blame her at all. I know why she would've chosen to go out at night when it's a little cooler and she thought she was safe. I just think somebody else knew her routine and took advantage of the opportunity. It's really sad that she wasn't safe at all in an area she'd been in all her life. :sad: MOO
lune3
08-15-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't think any of us are blaming her for walking down this road at night, at least I'm not... there are just as many daytime abductions these days and in more populated areas. :sad:
No, it didn't cross my mind either that she was taking a risk. This is her local area, she knows the roads, the environment, the locals etc. I walk at night too, with the dog. It's populated here but at night it's quiet. I do always keep my eye out for unusual cars and the like, but still...
Home invasions happen in broad daylight, children are snatched in populated areas, shopping mall parking lots etc...
In fact, the rural area where Kristi lives could actually be considered more safe than many areas. It's just so scary these days.
Divers assist with search for Blairsville woman
http://www.ajc.com/news/divers-assist-with-search-116317.html
New Movement in Missing Woman Search
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/New_Movement_in_Missing_Woman_Search_081509
So heartbreaking for the family. :rose:
I walk late too. It doesn't get below a hundred degrees here in Austin this summer until about 8 p.m. There are a LOT of women out walking in the pitch dark - if you want to walk, that's when you have to go to avoid heat stroke. No one here has been abducted.
It's not that dangerous. Driving is more dangerous than walking around alone.
I must say you are brave. I would never walk alone in the dark. Heck, I don't even like driving at night. But I realize an abduction can happen at any time. There have been abductions in broad daylight.
Just be careful. *sigh*
openminded
08-16-2009, 10:26 AM
I must say you are brave. I would never walk alone in the dark. Heck, I don't even like driving at night. But I realize an abduction can happen at any time. There have been abductions in broad daylight.
Just be careful. *sigh*
I second that.
Some places are more safe than others but no place is completely safe and women walking alone are vulnerable. Kristi isn't the first and won't be the last to be abducted, unfortunately (although in her case it could still turn out to be someone who knows her).
dreamtime
08-16-2009, 01:03 PM
In reading all the news, it seems she was abducted and could be anywhere by now.
There does seem to be evidence the police are holding back, probably to zero in on where she is.
Hoping she is found today!
lune3
08-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Now I'm not sure whether I read correctly that Kristi is still married, that she was going through a divorce after a short marriage. I was hoping that she was taken by her husband somewhere to "talk", a try for a reconciliation or something....I was hoping there was some explanation that wasn't so frightening and dire. The "don't take me" just seemed as though it may have been someone she knew.
It's been 5 days now, I can't imagine what her family is going through, and her bf who must be haunted by what he heard.
Praying that she is brought home safely, but things don't look very good.
trigger
08-16-2009, 04:42 PM
Now I'm not sure whether I read correctly that Kristi is still married, that she was going through a divorce after a short marriage. I was hoping that she was taken by her husband somewhere to "talk", a try for a reconciliation or something....I was hoping there was some explanation that wasn't so frightening and dire. The "don't take me" just seemed as though it may have been someone she knew.
It's been 5 days now, I can't imagine what her family is going through, and her bf who must be haunted by what he heard.
Praying that she is brought home safely, but things don't look very good.
This case is puzzeling....Darn I wish she would have said a persons name like Joe don't take me. I think she knew who it was. If it was a stranger IMO she would have said someting like leave me the ? alone. Your right her bf will always hear her voice in his head, horrible.
sunstar
08-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Search continues for missing Blairsville woman
About 100 officers continued the search Sunday for Kristi Cornwell, the 38-year-old woman abducted while walking in her Blairsville neighborhood last week.
The search centered on a Nottely Dam Road area where Cornwell’s cell phone was found Friday, said Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead.
The 100 officers from 17 different agencies searched on ATVs, foot and horseback. Divers from Hall County continued to search off a bridge close to where the cell phone was discovered.
more at http://www.ajc.com/news/search-continues-for-missing-116696.html
openminded
08-16-2009, 06:06 PM
Search continues for missing Blairsville woman
About 100 officers continued the search Sunday for Kristi Cornwell, the 38-year-old woman abducted while walking in her Blairsville neighborhood last week.
The search centered on a Nottely Dam Road area where Cornwell’s cell phone was found Friday, said Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead.
The 100 officers from 17 different agencies searched on ATVs, foot and horseback. Divers from Hall County continued to search off a bridge close to where the cell phone was discovered.
more at http://www.ajc.com/news/search-continues-for-missing-116696.html
A number of the same GBI agents who looked so diligently for Meredith Emerson when she was taken around Blairsville while on a day hike with her dog in Jan 2008 (I believe it was) are also on this case. I'm sure they would love to have a success story this time. I hope that they do.
The last I heard was that this afternoon the search was back to Jones Creek Road. The dive team will continue looking on Monday in the lake they had been searching.
KittyMom
08-16-2009, 07:32 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html
GBI unsure if Blairsville woman’s abduction was random or targeted
Kristi Cornwell spent years securing violent felons in prison and never got hurt.
She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country – on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.
She taught self-defense classes. I'm beginning to think she was taken by multiple perps.
sunstar
08-16-2009, 07:38 PM
A number of the same GBI agents who looked so diligently for Meredith Emerson when she was taken around Blairsville while on a day hike with her dog in Jan 2008 (I believe it was) are also on this case. I'm sure they would love to have a success story this time. I hope that they do.
The last I heard was that this afternoon the search was back to Jones Creek Road. The dive team will continue looking on Monday in the lake they had been searching.
It's good that they aren't giving up searching the area. I have a feeling she's not far away, and I'm just praying there's a good outcome even though it doesn't look like there will be.
sunstar
08-16-2009, 07:39 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html
GBI unsure if Blairsville woman’s abduction was random or targeted
She taught self-defense classes. I'm beginning to think she was taken by multiple perps.
I think so too.
ttcRider
08-16-2009, 07:46 PM
She may have been.
On the other hand, self-defense strategies give women undue confidence that they can defend themselves against a man their same size. It is a VERY unusual woman who can outmuscle a man of her size - and all it would take is a man with something to club her or stab her with, and she's completely out of her league. A man bent on taking her would be well-prepared to do it.
I really hope they are looking into her previous probationers. She is physically imposing from her pictures, and not the usual profile for a stranger abduction for sexual assault. It appears this was someone who was after her, specifically.
Probation officers have the worst enemies.
Who ever took her took a real risk since she was on her cell phone at the time. :mellow:
sunstar
08-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Who ever took her took a real risk since she was on her cell phone at the time. :mellow:
I know LE found her cell phone a few miles from where she was taken but I wonder if she also had a bluetooth she may have been using when talking with her boyfriend, and the perp(s) didn't realize it at the time? :shrug:
KittyMom
08-16-2009, 07:57 PM
She may have been.
On the other hand, self-defense strategies give women undue confidence that they can defend themselves against a man their same size. It is a VERY unusual woman who can outmuscle a man of her size - and all it would take is a man with something to club her or stab her with, and she's completely out of her league. A man bent on taking her would be well-prepared to do it.
I really hope they are looking into her previous probationers. She is physically imposing from her pictures, and not the usual profile for a stranger abduction for sexual assault. It appears this was someone who was after her, specifically.
Probation officers have the worst enemies.
I don't know what qualifications she had to have to teach self-defense classes, but I'd bet the state of GA required her to be trained as a part of her probation job. I don't think this was a woman who had run-of-the-mill self defense training. Wish someone who knows her could answer this.
KittyMom
08-16-2009, 07:58 PM
I know LE found her cell phone a few miles from where she was taken but I wonder if she also had a bluetooth she may have been using when talking with her boyfriend, and the perp(s) didn't realize it at the time? :shrug:
I've wondered that too, ss. The earpiece could've been hidden by her hair with the perp not realizing she was in a conversation.
Let's hope that there were finger prints on the cell.
sunstar
08-16-2009, 08:12 PM
I've wondered that too, ss. The earpiece could've been hidden by her hair with the perp not realizing she was in a conversation.
Let's hope that there were finger prints on the cell.
I hope so too. We need some clues who did this and where she is. :sad:
ttcRider
08-16-2009, 08:13 PM
Hopefully, along with her self defense training she was also trained in dealing with a potentially dangerous situation. Being able to remain calm and think on her feet could help her stay alive and leave behind important clues. :confused: I wish we knew more about what she said on her call, I think they are holding a lot of that information back. She knew she was in trouble and she would have said as much as she could while still on the phone. IMO
KittyMom
08-16-2009, 08:48 PM
I had to take self-defense classes and be re-certified every year because I worked within the state school system. There is no way on Earth I was a match for a man, although I was re-certified every year. I could take down a compliant state school resident who really wasn't very invested in fighting me, but forget a predator bent on hurting me.
My son is a lifeguard, and talks with dismay about girl lifeguards who are not strong enough to do the tasks, but are passed through anyway. Frankly, they would be GREAT at rescuing a small child and are also good at being aware and watchful. So girl life guards are an asset. But forget it if they have to rescue a drowning man - it's not going to happen, as was proven in Galveston a couple weeks ago. Sad.
If people think Kristi could have fought off a physically fit male attacker by herself with no weapons, they're kind of thinking in the wrong direction, IMHO.
Well, like my siggy says... :patriot:
ttcRider
08-16-2009, 09:16 PM
I know I can scream loud! Its amazing the strength you can find in yourself when faced with danger. I may not be able to over power a man in a struggle but I can tell you he won't be walking away without some battle scars!! :tongue:
NoelsMommy
08-16-2009, 09:24 PM
I'm new to this board so please forgive me if this has already been suggested or mentioned. I haven't read every single post on this story.
I had a thought about this. It seems like often we hear of the spouse, boyfriend, etc. being involved, yet securing an airtight alibi for themselves by being out of town when the actual crime occurs.
Did it occcur to anyone that possibly the bf might have taken out a contract hit on her (for whatever reason) and made sure the abductor would do it while he was out of town. The bf would know when she walks at night. He also might plan on being on the phone with her so that he could be sure it took place.
The words he said he heard her say may not actually be what she said, rather, what he thought would sound good.
I could go on and on about what might have happened but I don't want to get everyone riled up...just wanted to throw that theory out there. I'm sure LE has probably already thought of this possibility and are hopefully looking into his bank records, etc to see if he has withdrawn a large sum of money in the recent past or if there was anything going on in the relationship that might be a red flag.
Ice Cycle
08-16-2009, 09:26 PM
I know I can scream loud! Its amazing the strength you can find in yourself when faced with danger. I may not be able to over power a man in a struggle but I can tell you he won't be walking away without some battle scars!! :tongue:
Of course but the thing is it is not all about strength, sure that is a advantage but I have know smaller male's who out did larger stronger male's. I also have been mad enough at times where I don't think it would of been a problem. But that is the problem, if someone would be in normal mode it would bring out probably as much fear than anger if not more so. The art of surprise is the biggest advantage that one would of had in attacking her.
ttcRider
08-16-2009, 09:37 PM
Of course but the thing is it is not all about strength, sure that is a advantage but I have know smaller male's who out did larger stronger male's. I also have been mad enough at times where I don't think it would of been a problem. But that is the problem, if someone would be in normal mode it would bring out probably as much fear than anger if not more so. The art of surprise is the biggest advantage that one would of had in attacking her.
I dont think they surprised her, she heard the car approach and mentioned the car was following her according to the links. But yes, I know what you mean. I wonder if anyone else heard her screams? Her bf said she was screaming... :confused:
sunstar
08-16-2009, 09:39 PM
I dont think they surprised her, she heard the car approach and mentioned the car was following her according to the links. But yes, I know what you mean. I wonder if anyone else heard her screams? Her bf said she was screaming... :confused:
I'd think in the quiet open area her screams would almost echo, but if where she was taken from wasn't close enough to a house, they might go unheard. :sad: MOO
ttcRider
08-16-2009, 09:41 PM
I'm new to this board so please forgive me if this has already been suggested or mentioned. I haven't read every single post on this story.
I had a thought about this. It seems like often we hear of the spouse, boyfriend, etc. being involved, yet securing an airtight alibi for themselves by being out of town when the actual crime occurs.
Did it occcur to anyone that possibly the bf might have taken out a contract hit on her (for whatever reason) and made sure the abductor would do it while he was out of town. The bf would know when she walks at night. He also might plan on being on the phone with her so that he could be sure it took place.
The words he said he heard her say may not actually be what she said, rather, what he thought would sound good.
I could go on and on about what might have happened but I don't want to get everyone riled up...just wanted to throw that theory out there. I'm sure LE has probably already thought of this possibility and are hopefully looking into his bank records, etc to see if he has withdrawn a large sum of money in the recent past or if there was anything going on in the relationship that might be a red flag.
We loved getting riled up! :laugh: Welcome to the boards :seeya:
Ice Cycle
08-16-2009, 09:41 PM
I dont think they surprised her, she heard the car approach and mentioned the car was following her according to the links. But yes, I know what you mean. I wonder if anyone else heard her screams? Her bf said she was screaming... :confused:
Probably not as I read where it is kind of a secluded road and they probably knew her routine and had planned it out, whoever it was and maybe it was more than one. I do think it is highly possible that if she said those exact words "don't take me" then she was probably signaling to the b/f to let him know she was being taken.
Ice Cycle
08-16-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm new to this board so please forgive me if this has already been suggested or mentioned. I haven't read every single post on this story.
I had a thought about this. It seems like often we hear of the spouse, boyfriend, etc. being involved, yet securing an airtight alibi for themselves by being out of town when the actual crime occurs.
Did it occcur to anyone that possibly the bf might have taken out a contract hit on her (for whatever reason) and made sure the abductor would do it while he was out of town. The bf would know when she walks at night. He also might plan on being on the phone with her so that he could be sure it took place.
The words he said he heard her say may not actually be what she said, rather, what he thought would sound good.
I could go on and on about what might have happened but I don't want to get everyone riled up...just wanted to throw that theory out there. I'm sure LE has probably already thought of this possibility and are hopefully looking into his bank records, etc to see if he has withdrawn a large sum of money in the recent past or if there was anything going on in the relationship that might be a red flag.
Welcome Noels,
Yes this though occurred to me as well as it was the soon to be ex husband or one of the other ex's but just not sure what the motive would be. I was wondering if she was getting any alimony from any of them or if she was in some kind of property dispute with the soon to be ex. Still a week motive though.
NoelsMommy
08-16-2009, 09:54 PM
We loved getting riled up! :laugh: Welcome to the boards :seeya:
Thank you for the warm welcome.
This story grabbed my attention for several reasons, with the most pertinent being that I, too, live in an area similar to Blairsville and on a road that would be somewhat like the one where she was abducted. I won't even ride my bike alone in broad daylight and most people around here would call me a "city girl" and scoff at me because of that. I live in what would be considered a very "safe" community.
I'll admit that I'm a scaredy cat. I don't trust anyone and it's been interesting for me since ever since I moved here. People don't call first, they just show up at your door. Being a "city girl" I don't answer my door if I'm not expecting anyone.
Unfortunately one can no longer consider anywhere they live as being a "safe" area...
With that being said, one also can no longer be 100% sure of anyone's character. Being involved in one's church doesn't make one "above suspicion."
I truly hope the bf isn't involved & I pray that Kristi is found safe & sound.
sunstar
08-16-2009, 10:03 PM
Thank you for the warm welcome.
This story grabbed my attention for several reasons, with the most pertinent being that I, too, live in an area similar to Blairsville and on a road that would be somewhat like the one where she was abducted. I won't even ride my bike alone in broad daylight and most people around here would call me a "city girl" and scoff at me because of that. I live in what would be considered a very "safe" community.
I'll admit that I'm a scaredy cat. I don't trust anyone and it's been interesting for me since ever since I moved here. People don't call first, they just show up at your door. Being a "city girl" I don't answer my door if I'm not expecting anyone.
Unfortunately one can no longer consider anywhere they live as being a "safe" area...
With that being said, one also can no longer be 100% sure of anyone's character. Being involved in one's church doesn't make one "above suspicion."
I truly hope the bf isn't involved & I pray that Kristi is found safe & sound.
Welcome! :smile: I understand what you're saying. I too feel I'm in a somewhat safe area but wouldn't think of going out walking alone at night and even my neighbors who do that have a large dog with them! I believe Kristi had been in that area all her life and felt it was a safe, quiet place to be and then something went terribly wrong that night. I think it's very possible somebody had been watching her routine and took advantage of the opportunity. It seems LE doesn't believe her boyfriend or ex-husbands are involved. I was wondering though if the boyfriend has any ex-girlfriends who may not take kindly to him being involved with Kristi? Just a thought. MOO
NoelsMommy
08-16-2009, 10:12 PM
Welcome! :smile: I understand what you're saying. I too feel I'm in a somewhat safe area but wouldn't think of going out walking alone at night and even my neighbors who do that have a large dog with them! I believe Kristi had been in that area all her life and felt it was a safe, quiet place to be and then something went terribly wrong that night. I think it's very possible somebody had been watching her routine and took advantage of the opportunity. It seems LE doesn't believe her boyfriend or ex-husbands are involved. I was wondering though if the boyfriend has any ex-girlfriends who may not take kindly to him being involved with Kristi? Just a thought. MOO
Yes, it doesn't appear from what I've read that LE suspects the bf, however, they probably wouldn't make that known if they did. They wouldn't show their hand so that he might accidentally "slip up" and give confllicting statements or something of that sort.
They also would be involved in looking into his bank accounts, talking with acquaintances of his, etc. They would want to find out about his past relationships and the history of those among other things.
It sounds so far fetched but if you think about all of the far-fetched stories that we've heard of and hear of every single day, it's not so far-fetched after all.
kelloggirl
08-16-2009, 10:45 PM
As far as motive goes for a non-stranger abduction, I'm more inclined to lean towards the soon-to-be ex-husband rather than the current boyfriend, however, anything is possible.
AnniePie
08-16-2009, 11:19 PM
I know I can scream loud! Its amazing the strength you can find in yourself when faced with danger. I may not be able to over power a man in a struggle but I can tell you he won't be walking away without some battle scars!! :tongue:
I hope I could scream loud when in danger! (I once won at Bingo and all I could do was croak it out. :scared:)
Some cases seem to get to me more than others and this is one of them. I don't know why. I am so hoping and praying that Kristi gets home to her family.
lune3
08-17-2009, 12:10 AM
As far as motive goes for a non-stranger abduction, I'm more inclined to lean towards the soon-to-be ex-husband rather than the current boyfriend, however, anything is possible.
This was my thought too.
Also, it's unusual that a 38 year old has been married three times, and the last marriage being so short. No doubt LE has looked into everyone, the vehicles they own, any disputes or problems, but according to a local poster a few pages back, they have been ruled out.
It's possible too that the abductor was a stranger(s). One or two thugs avoiding the highway, drinking beer in the car, on drugs, whatever, and it was a random crime of opportunity.
I wonder if there have been any tips on the two vehicles.
omsk99
08-17-2009, 03:30 AM
GBI: Time Running Out To Find Missing Woman Alive
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133869&catid=3
Missing Blairsville woman’s cell phone found
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-womans-cell-116172.html
So they are looking for a couple of cars, they found her cell phone, and her BF is confirmed to have been in Atlanta at the time. She was a probation officer at one time, and knew how to defend herself. Meredith Emerson was serious about martial arts, but still couldn't escape (even though Hilton later said it was hard to fight with her). None of this is sounding good :sad:
Leanne Weich
08-17-2009, 06:15 AM
I wonder if she did scream. I remember once walking out of a restaurant when my DH and I had a fight. I was walking home when I realised 2 black men (lived in South Africa at the time, hence the need to elaborate on race) were following me. I quickly removed my rings and put them in my bra and carried on walking. The next thing I knew, I woke up in hospital. I'd been hit over the head and my DH had come upon the 2 men trying to drag me off the road. Fortunately they fled and my rings were safe. I remember being so scared I couldn't even remember how to use my cell phone nor am I sure I'd have been able to yell. Poor DH was so upset that he had waited for the bill and paid it before setting out to find me. I never walked alone at night in S.A. after that although I must admit I do now that we live in Australia.
Do we know for sure whether or not the BF and ex husbands were ruled out by LE? I read upthread that she was married 3 times. I think all 3 should be looked at. Were there any custody issues? Child support issues? etc etc
Postergeist
08-17-2009, 08:37 AM
NBC's Today show is covering her story now- with her parents and brother speaking too.
RainyNiteNTx
08-17-2009, 08:40 AM
NBC's Today show is covering her story now- with her parents and brother speaking too.
I check for updates daily on this, and am almost to the point of being afraid to look. This doesn't look good at all with the length of time she has been gone.
openminded
08-17-2009, 08:48 AM
Thank you for the warm welcome.
This story grabbed my attention for several reasons, with the most pertinent being that I, too, live in an area similar to Blairsville and on a road that would be somewhat like the one where she was abducted. I won't even ride my bike alone in broad daylight and most people around here would call me a "city girl" and scoff at me because of that. I live in what would be considered a very "safe" community.
I'll admit that I'm a scaredy cat. I don't trust anyone and it's been interesting for me since ever since I moved here. People don't call first, they just show up at your door. Being a "city girl" I don't answer my door if I'm not expecting anyone.
Unfortunately one can no longer consider anywhere they live as being a "safe" area...
With that being said, one also can no longer be 100% sure of anyone's character. Being involved in one's church doesn't make one "above suspicion."
I truly hope the bf isn't involved & I pray that Kristi is found safe & sound.
Part of our diverging views might be culture. I live in a large city with a lot of crime and view situations with a lot of suspicion (probably helped along by reading about these type cases).
However, people who live in the country, where it's supposed to be far more safe than the city, probably aren't nearly as suspicious as I am because their crime rate is low.
Kristi grew up in that area and probably felt very safe walking alone on a dark, sparsely populated rural road at night. I never would, no matter where I lived. I live in a gated community with streetlights everywhere but I wouldn't dream of walking after dark because anything can, and does, happen here.
I'm still leaning toward someone she knew taking her (possibly "helped" by a second person).
NoelsMommy
08-17-2009, 09:07 AM
Part of our diverging views might be culture. I live in a large city with a lot of crime and view situations with a lot of suspicion (probably helped along by reading about these type cases).
However, people who live in the country, where it's supposed to be far more safe than the city, probably aren't nearly as suspicious as I am because their crime rate is low.
Kristi grew up in that area and probably felt very safe walking alone on a dark, sparsely populated rural road at night. I never would, no matter where I lived. I live in a gated community with streetlights everywhere but I wouldn't dream of walking after dark because anything can, and does, happen here.
I'm still leaning toward someone she knew taking her (possibly "helped" by a second person).
You are so right. I recently moved back to a more rural area after living for over 25 years in a large city. I was, and still am, amazed at how people in the area where I live now are still so trusting. I know it was that way when I was just a kid growing up in a small town but now crime is everywhere, even in rural areas.
Even tho I lived in one of the safest areas in the city, I still never would have thought about walking alone after dark and quite frankly, probably would not have walked alone during the day but again I'm quite a scaredy cat anyway.
My relatives in my current area often make fun of me because I'm so cautious still but this story just goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you are, you can never take your personal safety for granted.
A lot of my neighbors don't even lock their doors still nor their cars in the driveway...I'd never dream of not locking my home or my car. I even keep my doors locked if I'm home during the day.
openminded
08-17-2009, 09:31 AM
You are so right. I recently moved back to a more rural area after living for over 25 years in a large city. I was, and still am, amazed at how people in the area where I live now are still so trusting. I know it was that way when I was just a kid growing up in a small town but now crime is everywhere, even in rural areas.
Even tho I lived in one of the safest areas in the city, I still never would have thought about walking alone after dark and quite frankly, probably would not have walked alone during the day but again I'm quite a scaredy cat anyway.
My relatives in my current area often make fun of me because I'm so cautious still but this story just goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you are, you can never take your personal safety for granted.
A lot of my neighbors don't even lock their doors still nor their cars in the driveway...I'd never dream of not locking my home or my car. I even keep my doors locked if I'm home during the day.
Me too. And I won't answer the doorbell if I'm not expecting someone.
Meredith Emerson's situation (hiking a popular trail in the middle of the day with her dog) is never far from my mind. The man who took her was in his 60's and Meredith was young and physically fit. It was a struggle, he said, but he won the battle and she eventually died.
The extra-scary part of that, to me, is the man who took Meredith near Blairsville lived in the city and often was seen with his dog in a park in the city where I have walked my dog and where my grandchildren play. I don't remember seeing him there, nor do they, but just knowing that he was there is unsettling to say the least.
Continued prayers for Kristi and her family.
leema24
08-17-2009, 10:26 AM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32445420/ns/today-today_people/
"Former FBI profiler and NBC news analyst Clint Van Zandt told Curry Monday that he sees hopeful signs in the investigation — especially the discovery of the cell phone. 'If it’s a kidnapping, you may have that the assailant grabs the cell phone out of her hand and throws it out the window. Then we’ve got fingerprints and perhaps DNA to work with,' he said.
Van Zandt added Cornwell likely knew exactly what she was doing by screaming 'Please don’t take me' into her cell phone at the time of her abduction.
'For her to say that, that tells her boyfriend this is no accident; this was a kidnapping, so in those few words she expressed what was going on, and how frightened she was,' Van Zandt said."
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 10:52 AM
Are you saying that a woman is a match for a man, of the same approximate size and fitness level? Because we're not, KittyMom. You can get "certified", and think you can take on a man physically, but you can't. It's a sad misunderstanding. Women can be led to take risks because they think they can take on a man physically, and it ends up like this. With a screaming shouting match and she's gone.
BTW, I walk in the evening as you do, and I feel very safe. I have a VERY loud screaming voice, and I walk in a very safe neighborhood where houses are crammed in like teeth. But I know that if a man grabbed me, I am no match for them physically although I work out and am physically strong.
No, I'm not. But it seems you think I've stated that. Whatever. My point is that she would have training that the average woman wouldn't have and might be able to at least pull out some hair or extract some blood that might be left behind. I don't think it would be easy for one man to force a woman into a trunk alone if that woman has been trained to defend herself and teach others to do the same.
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 11:04 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32445420/ns/today-today_people/
Abducted woman’s mother: ‘Let her come back’Kristi Cornwell was on cell phone when she yelled, ‘Please don’t take me!’
On Thursday, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation found some of Cornwell’s personal belongings and signs of a struggle.
And on Friday, a local man found Cornwell’s cell phone while mowing his lawn. The phone was found some 5 miles from where Cornwell was thought to have been abducted, with police believing whoever picked her up may have headed toward North Carolina.
They have ruled out Cornwell’s boyfriend, her three ex-husbands, and a list of the registered sex offenders in the area.
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Anyone from NC? Do they provide an online lookup for BOLO's? I've checked on the NCDOJ site and nothing jumps out at me.
BevAnn
08-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Thanks Kittymom!
Wow, ex's and bf are cleared....
I wonder what makes them think they are heading towards NC??
kelloggirl
08-17-2009, 11:31 AM
Thanks Kittymom!
Wow, ex's and bf are cleared....
I wonder what makes them think they are heading towards NC??
Maybe they were able to use the cell phone pings to track the direction they were traveling up until the point where it was thrown away.
I can only assume that the ex-husbands all have rock-solid alibis for the time of the abduction or LE believes the abductor still has Kristi and is therefore not one of the ex-husbands who are accounted for.
NoelsMommy
08-17-2009, 12:30 PM
I know they are saying they've ruled out the bf & ex's...still doesn't mean they won't go back there if things turn out the way it looks like it's heading.
I saw Kristi's brother, mother, & another relative on the Today show this morning. I think her brother has been on something else, maybe last week. I'm just wondering why the bf and/or ex's haven't been questioned on tv.
It might be because reporters would ask questions that might compromise the investigation such as what her exact words were when she was speaking on the phone to her bf...I don't know...just wondering...
Maybe the bf has been on one of the local stations...anyone know?
trigger
08-17-2009, 12:49 PM
Fox News will have case on few seconds, or so they say.
openminded
08-17-2009, 01:09 PM
I know they are saying they've ruled out the bf & ex's...still doesn't mean they won't go back there if things turn out the way it looks like it's heading.
I saw Kristi's brother, mother, & another relative on the Today show this morning. I think her brother has been on something else, maybe last week. I'm just wondering why the bf and/or ex's haven't been questioned on tv.
It might be because reporters would ask questions that might compromise the investigation such as what her exact words were when she was speaking on the phone to her bf...I don't know...just wondering...
Maybe the bf has been on one of the local stations...anyone know?
I have been watching this on the Atlanta stations since it began and the only person I have seen so far is her brother (always possible, of course, other relatives / friends have been on that I missed somehow).
trigger
08-17-2009, 01:11 PM
Searchers back out today as well as divers, diving under a bridge. LE states suspect might be heading towards NC. Bf called her mom, and mom called 911. Sheriffs responded as soon as they got the call. Ruled out BF. GA Bureau of Investgation states when asked if her 3 former husbands have been ruled out he said we don't talk about suspects or ruling anybody out, but bf call he was in Atlanta. Brother says he can't imagine who could do this. Anybody who would be abducted she would fight back because his sister went thru all firearms training and self defense training. Tip line 1-800-597-8477.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32445420/ns/today-today_people/
Abducted woman’s mother: ‘Let her come back’Kristi Cornwell was on cell phone when she yelled, ‘Please don’t take me!’
Thanks for the update. I'm glad they've been ruled out.
I know she was a probation officer but left about 2 years ago, right? Where does she work now?
My gut tells me she was targeted.
Searchers back out today as well as divers, diving under a bridge. LE states suspect might be heading towards NC. Bf called her mom, and mom called 911. Sheriffs responded as soon as they got the call. Ruled out BF. GA Bureau of Investgation states when asked if her 3 former husbands have been ruled out he said we don't talk about suspects or ruling anybody out, but bf call he was in Atlanta. Brother says he can't imagine who could do this. Anybody who would be abducted she would fight back because his sister went thru all firearms training and self defense training. Tip line 1-800-597-8477.
Sheeeesh so they're not ruled out?? :unsure:
openminded
08-17-2009, 01:18 PM
Thanks for the update. I'm glad they've been ruled out.
I know she was a probation officer but left about 2 years ago, right? Where does she work now?
My gut tells me she was targeted.
I believe I read she's a full-time student (didn't see anything about a recent job in the article).
trigger
08-17-2009, 01:20 PM
Sheeeesh so they're not ruled out?? :unsure:
Nope...:shrug:
AnniePie
08-17-2009, 02:01 PM
You are so right. I recently moved back to a more rural area after living for over 25 years in a large city. I was, and still am, amazed at how people in the area where I live now are still so trusting. I know it was that way when I was just a kid growing up in a small town but now crime is everywhere, even in rural areas.
Even tho I lived in one of the safest areas in the city, I still never would have thought about walking alone after dark and quite frankly, probably would not have walked alone during the day but again I'm quite a scaredy cat anyway.
My relatives in my current area often make fun of me because I'm so cautious still but this story just goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you are, you can never take your personal safety for granted.
A lot of my neighbors don't even lock their doors still nor their cars in the driveway...I'd never dream of not locking my home or my car. I even keep my doors locked if I'm home during the day.
I think that people who follow crime boards are more aware of crime than others who just listen to the news and are saddened by it. We understand that crime happens all the time in small towns where people are horrified that something gruesome had just happened there.
My teen boys have grown up in this small town where "nothing bad ever happens" and they make fun of me because I keep everything locked up all the time. They say things like, "Oh, Mom's got the doors double-padlocked cuz we live in "da hood"! They make a joke of it, and I try to make them more realistic. Perhaps the difference is that they're boys or just teens... I don't know.
I do go out for walks at night with my husband, but I wouldn't go alone. Women do it all the time here though without any fear.
I am afraid for Kristi. This is not sounding good for her. I hope that things work out and she is soon home with her family. And I also hope that exposure to this case will make young women more cautious. This is a scary world we live in.
AnniePie
08-17-2009, 02:04 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32445420/ns/today-today_people/
Abducted woman’s mother: ‘Let her come back’Kristi Cornwell was on cell phone when she yelled, ‘Please don’t take me!’
If I found a cell phone on my front lawn, I don't know that I'd immediately call the police to tell them about it. Good for this guy for doing so. I hope he didn't touch it too much and they can get some good prints from it!
lune3
08-17-2009, 02:13 PM
I would think if this were someone she knew well, it would be obvious on the phone. "Oh, it's so and so", "Hey, what's going on?" Then the struggle sounds.
I think this is going to be someone she knows, but not well enough to have instant recall of his name or recognize him instantly.
I think so too. At the point where she realized she was in trouble, the "please don't take me", and the actual scuffle, she could have yelled out a name. Even in a state of panic where things happen fast, I think she would have attempted to relay a message to her bf, knowing he could still hear.
I wonder why LE have stated that the 2 exes and soon to be ex have not been ruled out, yet the bf definitely has. There's always a possibility of a contract deal, so it may be that LE is still looking into backgrounds, acquaintances, records, vehicles etc, where the bf has "passed" scrutiny but maybe the others have not.
Didn't Kristi quit the probation job back in 2002 IIRC? Still, some guy recently out of jail may have an issue with her.
omsk99
08-17-2009, 02:50 PM
Georgia Investigators Say They Have "No Indication" of Where 38-Year-Old Mother Might Be; Her Cell Phone the Only Evidence
~snip
"As for Davis, Richard Cornwell, Kristi's brother, refused to answer any questions about him on "The Early Show."
Richard said, "He's very critical in this investigation, since he was apparently the last person to talk to her before the abduction. So we're just going to withhold any comments about Mr. Davis right now."
Bankhead didn't indicate whether Davis is considered a suspect in the investigation. "
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/17/earlyshow/main5246717.shtml
Doesn't sound to me like her brother is a fan of her "finace" (as Davis called himself or her once, IIRC). But that could have nothing to do with the abduction, of course (if that's the case).
BevAnn
08-17-2009, 03:05 PM
HHMM...very interesting. :huh:
trigger
08-17-2009, 03:17 PM
Was just on Fox News. I wonder if the FBI is involved yet. If the suspect had a full tank of gas how long would it take for him to run out of gas? It would be real early in the morning right? Is there gas stations along the way, heading north? And if so hope they are looking on surveillance videos. Does anyone have her FB page? On True Crime site it says that a friend posted there on Tuesday night wrote about add'l info that we havent heard as yet. Ill try to find out what was said..
AZCHARGED
08-17-2009, 03:19 PM
Searchers back out today as well as divers, diving under a bridge. LE states suspect might be heading towards NC. Bf called her mom, and mom called 911. Sheriffs responded as soon as they got the call. Ruled out BF. GA Bureau of Investgation states when asked if her 3 former husbands have been ruled out he said we don't talk about suspects or ruling anybody out, but bf call he was in Atlanta. Brother says he can't imagine who could do this. Anybody who would be abducted she would fight back because his sister went thru all firearms training and self defense training. Tip line 1-800-597-8477. (bolding mine)
It's unfortunate there is no evidence of a Concealed Weapons Permit. Of course hindsight is 20/20.
Part of our diverging views might be culture. I live in a large city with a lot of crime and view situations with a lot of suspicion (probably helped along by reading about these type cases).
However, people who live in the country, where it's supposed to be far more safe than the city, probably aren't nearly as suspicious as I am because their crime rate is low.
Kristi grew up in that area and probably felt very safe walking alone on a dark, sparsely populated rural road at night. I never would, no matter where I lived. I live in a gated community with streetlights everywhere but I wouldn't dream of walking after dark because anything can, and does, happen here.
I'm still leaning toward someone she knew taking her (possibly "helped" by a second person).
I came from a small town and lived in a rural area. Most of my family still does, however, it is VERY rare for people to act as if any area is safe to walk alone at night...for a man or woman. Everyone I know there uses the caution you would if you lived in a large city with a high crime rate.
I am shocked to hear that people in this country are so unaware of events in the news that they still think their neighborhood is immune from violence. I just don't get it. With her background, she knew about criminals.
I still think something is very odd about the story of events as reported. I have heard the cell phone calls have been verifed, of course, the content of what was said cannot be verified. Have they confirmed from her family that she regularly walked alone on that stretch of road? It boggles the mind that she did that. I'm not blaming her as she is a victim, but just trying to get inside her head to figure out what really happened.
AZCHARGED
08-17-2009, 03:59 PM
I came from a small town and lived in a rural area. Most of my family still does, however, it is VERY rare for people to act as if any area is safe to walk alone at night...for a man or woman. Everyone I know there uses the caution you would if you lived in a large city with a high crime rate.
I am shocked to hear that people in this country are so unaware of events in the news that they still think their neighborhood is immune from violence. I just don't get it. With her background, she knew about criminals.
I still think something is very odd about the story of events as reported. I have heard the cell phone calls have been verifed, of course, the content of what was said cannot be verified. Have they confirmed from her family that she regularly walked alone on that stretch of road? It boggles the mind that she did that. I'm not blaming her as she is a victim, but just trying to get inside her head to figure out what really happened.
Being female and with a LE background, I am having a difficult time getting my mind around this evening solitary walk myself. I am jaded, I know, so I don't need to be told that.
trigger
08-17-2009, 04:52 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-117175.html
Ice Cycle
08-17-2009, 04:54 PM
I came from a small town and lived in a rural area. Most of my family still does, however, it is VERY rare for people to act as if any area is safe to walk alone at night...for a man or woman. Everyone I know there uses the caution you would if you lived in a large city with a high crime rate.
I am shocked to hear that people in this country are so unaware of events in the news that they still think their neighborhood is immune from violence. I just don't get it. With her background, she knew about criminals.
I still think something is very odd about the story of events as reported. I have heard the cell phone calls have been verifed, of course, the content of what was said cannot be verified. Have they confirmed from her family that she regularly walked alone on that stretch of road? It boggles the mind that she did that. I'm not blaming her as she is a victim, but just trying to get inside her head to figure out what really happened.
Ditto, in fact I would think that being if the road is secluded as reported that would make it more so off limits, at least it would of been for me, small town or any town.
lune3
08-17-2009, 05:28 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-117175.html
This article reports something slightly different from earlier. It says Davis heard a struggle, then "don't take me" and then the phone hung up.
I was under the assumption he heard the struggle after the "don't take me", in a situation where perhaps the person was ordering her in the car but before he forced her.
In any case, something must have been said to Davis between the time she told him a car was following her and when the individual(s) grabbed her. The car needed to stop, the person needed to get out etc, and Kristi was on the phone at this time.
I hope more was said that could potentially lead to something.
AZCHARGED
08-17-2009, 05:31 PM
The more news reports I hear on this, the more hinky it is starting to sound that the boy friend's first call was to Kristi's Mother rather than to LE. Does that make ANY sense? HLN Mike Galanos was saying the Mother finally insisted on calling 911 -- not the boy friend.
leema24
08-17-2009, 05:32 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-117175.html
"Investigators are looking into the possibility that Cornwell’s abductor had staked her out, since she normally doesn’t walk that four-mile loop near her house at that time of night. Neighbors say they saw Cornwell wearing flip-flops, though Georgia Bureau of Investigation spokesman John Bankhead would not confirm it."
Maybe I misread but I thought this walk was a routine for Kristi? Or do they just mean she doesn't usually walk at that time of night. Interesting if she was wearing flip flops though.
omsk99
08-17-2009, 05:54 PM
http://www.ajc.com/news/missing-blairsville-117175.html
OK, so per this article (thanks for posting it!), the BF and the 3 ex-husbands have been ruled out, and they don't think the abduction.attack was targeted, meaning it was random. But if this is such a secluded and little-traveled area, why would someone cruise there looking for someone to abduct? It didn't matter who it was there? This is making less and less sense as it goes "forward" :sad:
NoelsMommy
08-17-2009, 06:31 PM
On the other hand, who walks any distance in flip flops for exercise?
Maybe it was a pair of those new ones called "fit flops" that are made to exercise in...just a thought.
I'm still skeptical that her bf was conveniently talking to her on the phone when it all happened.
If someone told me that a car was approaching them while walking down a long, dark, stretch of highway I don't think I'd just keep talking about everyday stuff. I'd be asking what color it was, could you tell how many people were in it, etc. I know it was dark but she might have seen something. I'd probably even tell the person to hang up and call 911 right then if it seemed ominous in nature.
Again, I have to wonder if he's involved. By being out of town & talking to her when it happened, he could have been creating what he hoped would be an airtight alibi.
What she said to him on the phone could have been anything. If he were involved, he would probably make something up. She probably did NOT know who the abductor(s) were because he may have hired them.
I probably read too many crime novels and watch too many movies...lol...:scared:
I'm betting LE has NOT ruled anyone out at this time. Why would they? They've barely even gotten started.
lune3
08-17-2009, 06:35 PM
OK, so per this article (thanks for posting it!), the BF and the 3 ex-husbands have been ruled out, and they don't think the abduction.attack was targeted, meaning it was random. But if this is such a secluded and little-traveled area, why would someone cruise there looking for someone to abduct? It didn't matter who it was there? This is making less and less sense as it goes "forward" :sad:
Plus the fact there's a highway parallel to that road. The only thing I can think of, if it was an abduction by a random stranger, is that somebody was on that road to avoid the highway...drinking in the car? drugs? just cruising for whatever reason? or....a local from the area after all, ..and that it was a crime of opportunity.
I'm still leaning towards Kristi having been stalked, that this was plotted but anything's possible.
lune3
08-17-2009, 06:40 PM
Maybe it was a pair of those new ones called "fit flops" that are made to exercise in...just a thought.
I'm still skeptical that her bf was conveniently talking to her on the phone when it all happened.
If someone told me that a car was approaching them while walking down a long, dark, stretch of highway I don't think I'd just keep talking about everyday stuff. I'd be asking what color it was, could you tell how many people were in it, etc. I know it was dark but she might have seen something. I'd probably even tell the person to hang up and call 911 right then if it seemed ominous in nature.
Again, I have to wonder if he's involved. By being out of town & talking to her when it happened, he could have been creating what he hoped would be an airtight alibi.
What she said to him on the phone could have been anything. If he were involved, he would probably make something up. She probably did NOT know who the abductor(s) were because he may have hired them.
I probably read too many crime novels and watch too many movies...lol...:scared:
I'm betting LE has NOT ruled anyone out at this time. Why would they? They've barely even gotten started.
Has it been reported who called who?
Do people generally carry a cellphone when you go out for a walk?
I'd still like to know who the man was who was seen walking with her earlier, at 8:15pm IIRC. Nothing further was reported on that.
trigger
08-17-2009, 07:06 PM
Has it been reported who called who?
Do people generally carry a cellphone when you go out for a walk?
I'd still like to know who the man was who was seen walking with her earlier, at 8:15pm IIRC. Nothing further was reported on that.
Yes that was early on when we heard that they saw her walking with a man...This witness should be asked if she was wearing flip flops? How do we know her exact location where she was taken? Does anyone know? Her BF should have asked her whose car, what car is following you? Something??? Im confused about the BF. Drew Peterson would have done something like this, be in another county when his GF went missing. I wish they would let us HEAR the 911 call.
AZCHARGED
08-17-2009, 07:11 PM
Has it been reported who called who?
Do people generally carry a cellphone when you go out for a walk?
I'd still like to know who the man was who was seen walking with her earlier, at 8:15pm IIRC. Nothing further was reported on that.
There are two things I ALWAYS carry when I go out for a walk with my athletic walking shoes on (never flip-flops). They are: (1) my cell phone; and (2) my concealed weapon (along with permit to carry!).
This is the first I have read of the man who was seen walking with her. Link or reference???
NoelsMommy
08-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Honestly, LE might tell media that bf & ex's have been ruled out just to make them less defensive and more prone to talking freely to them.
If someone thinks they are a suspect, their guard is up and they're less likely to slip up during multiple questionings or even worse, they go out and hire a lawyer and say absolutely NOTHING else.
I love that we can get detailed info of news thru various media outlets but face it, they do report things that sometimes are not absolute fact.
And even tho they've been told that the bf & ex's have been cleared...it still doesn't necessicarily mean they have...
trigger
08-17-2009, 07:30 PM
The more news reports I hear on this, the more hinky it is starting to sound that the boy friend's first call was to Kristi's Mother rather than to LE. Does that make ANY sense? HLN Mike Galanos was saying the Mother finally insisted on calling 911 -- not the boy friend.
It makes no sense to me that the BF didn't call 911. Very weird. Esp if theres been a kidnapping of your GF for god sake. I transfer 911 calls to different counties constantly throughout my day. Older people really never call 911, they are afraid to call and young children call all the time which is a good thing. Teenagers never really call. And 30-50 years old call all the time. So why didn't he call??? I heard one story that the BF even heard the car. Why didnt he ask her about the car.:cursing:
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 08:05 PM
I got this message from Kristi's facebook group.
"sherry kimsey my girl friend and a close friend with kristi is gonna be on the nancy grace show on cnn tonight talking about kristi please try to watch it if you can god bless you all and keep praying"
ttcRider
08-17-2009, 08:11 PM
why is NG always so biotchy to Natisha?? I hate when she does that.:cursing:
NoelsMommy
08-17-2009, 08:16 PM
Here's a link to a live stream of the Nancy Grace show that you can watch on the computer if you're so inclined. I hope I've inserted the link properly.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m6d19-Live-streaming-of-Nancy-Grace-Issues-with-Jane-VelezMitchell-and-other-crime-related-news
adpilove
08-17-2009, 08:23 PM
why is NG always so biotchy to Natisha?? I hate when she does that.:cursing:
I couldn't agree more! I HATE IT! Shoot, the woman travels all over the country on these cases to report back and always is so patient with her. Chill out Nancy!
openminded
08-17-2009, 09:06 PM
why is NG always so biotchy to Natisha?? I hate when she does that.:cursing:
For some reason Nancy is usually that way with the people who work on her show.
I had been hoping she would cover Kristi's case tonight. I hope she continues.
ttcRider
08-17-2009, 09:14 PM
For some reason Nancy is usually that way with the people who work on her show.
I had been hoping she would cover Kristi's case tonight. I hope she continues.
yah but isnt Natisha the producer of her show?? :scared:
sunstar
08-17-2009, 09:18 PM
For some reason Nancy is usually that way with the people who work on her show.
I had been hoping she would cover Kristi's case tonight. I hope she continues.
I missed Nancy's show (football's on!) so she didn't even mention Kristi at all?? :sad:
openminded
08-17-2009, 09:32 PM
I missed Nancy's show (football's on!) so she didn't even mention Kristi at all?? :sad:
Sorry for the confusion -- she did, yes. She covered it well.
sunstar
08-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Sorry for the confusion -- she did, yes. She covered it well.
Thanks ~ I'll look for her transcript in a little while. :smile:
lune3
08-17-2009, 09:52 PM
There are two things I ALWAYS carry when I go out for a walk with my athletic walking shoes on (never flip-flops). They are: (1) my cell phone; and (2) my concealed weapon (along with permit to carry!).
This is the first I have read of the man who was seen walking with her. Link or reference???
Early on, posts # 68 and 70 make mention of "first news reports" mentioning a witness saw Kristi walking with a man earlier that evening. I do not know if this was on local news reports, nor whether it was confirmed. There were a couple of local posters who were getting info from local stations, but not sure if the posters who mentioned this were those local ones.
Since we've heard no more about it, it's possible it was a media error and not true. I continue to wonder about this.
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 09:54 PM
My family and I walked a mile tonight. Hubby wore his flip-flops. Said his feet were hot from wearing loafers all day and he wanted to be comfortable. He does that sometimes. :shrug: Also, by the time we'd chatted with two different neighbors, it was well past 9 and pretty dark out. Thankfully, the kids have reflectors on their bikes and I had my cell. Not really exercise, but that's the way some nights are.
If there is truth to the flip-flops and unusual time of the walk, I have to wonder if this conversation with her bf was something she didn't want her parents to overhear?
KittyMom
08-17-2009, 09:56 PM
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20431337/detail.html
NC Sex Offenders Questioned In Missing Woman Case
Glad to hear this. NC is only a few miles away.
sunstar
08-17-2009, 10:06 PM
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20431337/detail.html
Glad to hear this. NC is only a few miles away.
I too am glad that other LE agencies are involved since it's very possible she could've been taken out of Georgia very easily. :sad: MOO
sunstar
08-17-2009, 10:07 PM
Early on, posts # 68 and 70 make mention of "first news reports" mentioning a witness saw Kristi walking with a man earlier that evening. I do not know if this was on local news reports, nor whether it was confirmed. There were a couple of local posters who were getting info from local stations, but not sure if the posters who mentioned this were those local ones.
Since we've heard no more about it, it's possible it was a media error and not true. I continue to wonder about this.
That was also mentioned on NG's show. Also, something about an earlier incident (not that same night) which brought about the question of why she'd continue to walk alone at night. :shrug: MOO
Mamie
08-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Yes that was early on when we heard that they saw her walking with a man...This witness should be asked if she was wearing flip flops? How do we know her exact location where she was taken? Does anyone know? Her BF should have asked her whose car, what car is following you? Something??? Im confused about the BF. Drew Peterson would have done something like this, be in another county when his GF went missing. I wish they would let us HEAR the 911 call.
It's too bad she didn't yell out the description of the car instead of please don't take me. Or too bad she didn't describe the car when she told him she had to get off the road that a car was coming. Hindsight, I know. JMO
Ice Cycle
08-17-2009, 10:54 PM
It's too bad she didn't yell out the description of the car instead of please don't take me. Or too bad she didn't describe the car when she told him she had to get off the road that a car was coming. Hindsight, I know. JMO
Well this doesn't make sense to me either, if she saw the car following her their is a time frame where they had to stop the car and get out so wouldn't she of taken off running and if it is true she had a bluetooth wouldn't she have had time to tell the b/f they were chasing her or to call 911 or something like that.
sinagua
08-17-2009, 11:50 PM
I am very cautious not to walk in secluded areas, anymore. I do carry a cell phone.
I think that the BF, couldn't have called 911, because he wasn't in the same county as Kristi. He would have gotten his local police. He did the right thing by calling her mother. Her mother might have been able to race to her car and see something.
On a local road, you would think that she would recognize neighbor's cars. I would have said something like "I don't know who is in this car."
Maybe she thought someone needed directions and she wasn't alarmed at first.
I wonder is she had talked on the Internet to anyone about her routine?
I mean there are posters on here, saying that they walk at night. If you were friendly with a poster you might get enough information out of them, to know where they were.
Transcripts for both Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell and Nancy Grace discussing Kristi's abduction.
JVM: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/17/ijvm.01.html
NG: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/17/ng.01.html
A few things that were new to me:
1) The town is very small. Only 720 people.
2) She was staying at her parents between semesters. She goes to school in Dalton and has an apartment there.
3) She had some sort of injury and her friend believes she may have been walking off the pain. Leg and back injury. I wish we knew how this happened.
4) She was a former probation officer and drug counselor.
I have to agree with Peter Odom on this one. Nancy and some of her guests kept insisting that a parolee never goes after the probation officer but if she was a probation officer and drug counselor she was in these peoples homes many times taking urine samples, etc. Albeit not since 2002 but crazy people hold grudges and who knows. Did she befriend one of them? We know that happens.
I'd like to know more about her boyfriend. He may not have anything with her disappearance but how did they meet?
I'd like to know about her 3 ex husbands.
I'd like to know where her 15 year old son was. Was he staying with her or with dad or at the apartment in Dalton?
With a town of only 720 people, she was either very unlucky by someone passing through and looking for a woman walking alone to snatch or she was targeted.
I go with being targeted.
openminded
08-18-2009, 07:40 AM
Early on, posts # 68 and 70 make mention of "first news reports" mentioning a witness saw Kristi walking with a man earlier that evening. I do not know if this was on local news reports, nor whether it was confirmed. There were a couple of local posters who were getting info from local stations, but not sure if the posters who mentioned this were those local ones.
Since we've heard no more about it, it's possible it was a media error and not true. I continue to wonder about this.
I watch at least one of the Atlanta stations every night (sometimes two of them at different times) and have not heard about Kristi walking with a man earlier. Of course, that doesn't mean it didn't happen (and that someone didn't report it) but I just have not heard it mentioned.
darcie
08-18-2009, 08:22 AM
Kristi's mother and brother on FOX NEWS this morning. Her poor mother looks broken.
They didn't have much to say other than what was reported. I did catch a falter? a hesitation in the brother's voice while speaking of the boyfriend. Maybe it was nothing, and just the way i heard it/took it.
Also said personal items were found, but weren't allowed to highlite them because of the investigation. They did mention the cell phone though.
Hoping you are found Kristi.
:sad:
Wanted to add that I know a girl that walks 4 miles everyday.....in FLIP FLOPS! I am a walker too, but never walk in flip flops, but I am not much of a flip flop wearer. I have seen the new fit flops, actually a girl was wearing them Saturday at the beauty salon. She said she loved them, and after wearing them all dy, you can sure tell??? Said it makes her legs feel like she has been on a tremendous work out!
trigger
08-18-2009, 08:27 AM
[QUOTE=n/t;13373816]Transcripts for both Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell and Nancy Grace discussing Kristi's abduction.
JVM: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/17/ijvm.01.html
NG: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/17/ng.01.html
A few things that were new to me:
1) The town is very small. Only 720 people.
2) She was staying at her parents between semesters. She goes to school in Dalton and has an apartment there.
3) She had some sort of injury and her friend believes she may have been walking off the pain. Leg and back injury. I wish we knew how this happened.
4) She was a former probation officer and drug counselor.
snipped..I would like to add n/t
5) The BF called 911 right after her mom.
Kristi's mother and brother on FOX NEWS this morning. Her poor mother looks broken.
They didn't have much to say other than what was reported. I did catch a falter? a hesitation in the brother's voice while speaking of the boyfriend. Maybe it was nothing, and just the way i heard it/took it.
Also said personal items were found, but weren't allowed to highlite them because of the investigation. They did mention the cell phone though.
Hoping you are found Kristi.
:sad:
Wanted to add that I know a girl that walks 4 miles everyday.....in FLIP FLOPS! I am a walker too, but never walk in flip flops, but I am not much of a flip flop wearer. I have seen the new fit flops, actually a girl was wearing them Saturday at the beauty salon. She said she loved them, and after wearing them all dy, you can sure tell??? Said it makes her legs feel like she has been on a tremendous work out!
I have a pair of crocs flip flops and they are the most comfortable shoes I've worn yet. Mind you I don't walk long distances but I wonder if these were the kind Kristi was wearing.
Here's a photo of what I'm talking about.
http://www.splooshshoes.co.uk/sitedata/218/Womens_Ladies_Casual_Footwear_Crocs_Capri_Shoes_Sa ndals_Flip_Flops_Chocolate_&_Cotton_Candy.jpg
Also the poster upthread...sorry don't recall the name off hand who wondered if she went out to talk to her boyfriend because she wanted privacy and her parents not listening to the conversation is an excellent point and perhaps that's why she was in flip flops?? (of course the footwear hasn't been officially confirmed as of yet)
KittyMom
08-18-2009, 08:54 AM
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20442289/detail.html
Missing Woman's Family Sets Up Web Site
http://kristicornwell.com
BevAnn
08-18-2009, 09:00 AM
Thanks Kittymom!
Not much on her site, but who is the Richard Cornwell in the picture with her?
KittyMom
08-18-2009, 09:13 AM
Thanks Kittymom!
Not much on her site, but who is the Richard Cornwell in the picture with her?
Media has been quoting a Richard Cornwell and describes him as Kristi's brother.
BevAnn
08-18-2009, 09:17 AM
That's what I thought, but having the same last name, and knowing she'd been married a couple times, wasn't sure she was using her maiden name. (he's also a very nice looking gentleman!)
Hope Kristi is found soon! :sad:
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