8/11/, 8/12,8/13

[desmom]

Good Morning. New thread for a new day.

:rose: Caylee :rose:

[desmom]

Headlines from one year ago:

Psychic-Led Team 'Blind Driving' Central Fla. To Find Missing Girl
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17154890/detail.html

Grandfather On The Road
http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4076255

Casey Anthony's Parents Back At Sheriff's Office To Meet With Detectives
http://www.wftv.com/news/17142154/detail.html

Appeals Court Denies Bond Motion For Mother Of Missing 3-Year-Old Girl
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17159019/detail.html

Tip Involving Smell Leads Nowhere In Caylee Anthony Search
http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html

On the Record with Greta
part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-7mmmAmIOw
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGHIyyOPnHQ
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FFmQGjwt0U&feature=related

Nancy Grace transcript Aired August 11, 2008
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/11/ng.01.html

[Postergeist]

I certainly hope so George!

(from your link Des)-

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html 8/11/08

"She's (Casey) going to have to pay for some of the stuff she's put herself and put her daughter through," George Anthony said last week.

and then lying Cindy- which you brought up the other day Des-

Cindy said she shared new information with investigators Monday about Casey's phone records that she says shows Casey really did get a call from Caylee on July 15 from a "private number." She's even claiming that Caylee's great grandmother heard from Caylee during the time she's been missing.

wow- guess Heaven is listed as a private #.


Don't call us, we'll call you. Sugarloaf

[Scampi]

Good morning everyone. Wow, news of cindy and george getting baptized on Caylee's birthday is just so inappropriate. I don't fault the minister, his job is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and take them into the fold. But really, how can they pull a PR stunt like this with a good conscience?

While it's true only God knows what is in their hearts, it's going to be very interesting to observe their words, actions and behavior from this point forward.

[Postergeist]

Cindy is about the business of turning her "negative into a positive".


<snipped> great points toadii- this particular comment of yours made me think you're on to something!

Now that we know that S & S say they have nothing in the works with the A's or anyone associated with the case to have book deal with them- this could be the next step- Anthonys- The Musical.

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between



BTW- is this the same church that held the memorial that did the 4th birthday for the A's?

[spiritwolf46]

Good morning everyone. Wow, news of cindy and george getting baptized on Caylee's birthday is just so inappropriate. I don't fault the minister, his job is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and take them into the fold. But really, how can they pull a PR stunt like this with a good conscience?

While it's true only God knows what is in their hearts, it's going to be very interesting to observe their words, actions and behavior from this point forward.

Oh GOOD LORD! I did not know this happened! Inappropriate and PR at its VERY best!

They NEVER EVER cease to turn my stomach!

[spiritwolf46]

<snipped> great points toadii- this particular comment of yours made me think you're on to something!

Now that we know that S & S say they have nothing in the works with the A's or anyone associated with the case to have book deal with them- this could be the next step- Anthonys- The Musical.

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
And latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between



BTW- is this the same church that held the memorial that did the 4th birthday for the A's?

Bold red mine:

LOL! I would go see their musical! I would be loaded down with rotten maters! But hey, that is just me. ;)

[sammy62]

Bold red mine:

LOL! I would go see their musical! I would be loaded down with rotten maters! But hey, that is just me. ;)

I hope Cindy wouldn't have any part in the writing of the songs. Her song of Caylee was just horrible. :scared:

[spiritwolf46]

I hope Cindy wouldn't have any part in the writing of the songs. Her song of Caylee was just horrible. :scared:

Me either! I can honestly see Lee up there on stage, with a black mask, cape and walking stick, screaming CMA!!!! CMA!!!! CMA!!!!! in his best Broadway voice! :scared:

[happygert]

CMA! = Cold Blooded Murdering Anthony..
CMA!= casey Murdered an Angel..

[sammy62]

Me either! I can honestly see Lee up there on stage, with a black mask, cape and walking stick, screaming CMA!!!! CMA!!!! CMA!!!!! in his best Broadway voice! :scared:

lol...too funny. :laugh:

[AnniePie]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

[marshmallow]

the Manwill family could teach the Anthonys a lesson in class and humility.


http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0609-manwill_family.b56baa45.html

[happygert]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

psst... more then likely the a's... jmo...

[spiritwolf46]

psst... more then likely the a's... jmo...

I was thinking along those line, too, Happygert!

[sammy62]

I'm not real informed about narcissists or psychopaths, but what has disturbed me from the beginning is their constant remarks about "my daughter", "my grandaughter". That little girl". Why would they not mention them by name? Anyone?

[spiritwolf46]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

This Dip Chit uses what comes from Mr. Grund's blogs and all that Mr. Grund is doing is THANKING everyone and is being SO wonderful about what is happening to his family in all this mess! So, how is that so bad?

Me thinks this particular blogger IS from the A's or someone they know. After all, it is pure stupidity to put Richard down and then have all of his stuff on there being wonderful, isn't it?

WOW!

[AnniePie]

psst... more then likely the a's... jmo...

It's too well-written to be done by the Anthonys, but I'm sure it's done by one of their followers.

(RG, in one of his twitter messages, calls C and G "Queen Jezebel and her eunuch"! LOL)

[marshmallow]

what ever happened to Michelle Bart(?) ?

[Sun]

Hi Everyone! Thanks so much desmom for posting those links yesterday, to the Jail Video Visitation of August 14, 2008. Here is the link to the first part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=related

Something is bugging me. Do all the Anthonys use the word "myself" improperly in sentences? I would like to think that I haven't used it incorrectly all of my life, but now I'm wondering. Someone please please settle this issue within my own mind. :confused: :blushing:

[Postergeist]

Morning posty.
LOL I picture Cindy's musical more as Evita, where the money keeps rolling in. Or the Producers but instead of the play chosen as the ultimate guaranteed failure being " Springtime for Hilter", "August for Anthonys".

Judging from the reported 100 people in attendance my guess is the Baptist church where they had the weekly vigils. Desmom would be sure to recall the name of the religious man that Cindy was just friends with in the past who "reached out" to her "when she was under a time of desparation". That Cindy, she has rocks all over the place.
IMO they would only need the Memorial Church if the thousands that Cindy has lead to the Lord were all in attendance. AKA The Church of the Purest of Hearts.

lol, rocks all over the place! I'm popping in before I pop back out (I've been following some on the missing 81 yo newlywed).

that would make sense about the smaller church that held the vigils-

wonder if that's normal for that church to have baptism renewals, never knew them to expire before but I don't keep up with the new fangled stuff- but I guess that would be a way for the church to get more tithes coming in with an annual baptism renewal love offering.

[imc_e]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

I read that this morning, and its ridiculous.

They are trying to bring him down, to silence Caylee's voice, and they don't know how to do it, so they spin the truth and make things up.

Result: The Anthonys look worse than they already do, IF thats even possible.

[Postergeist]

Bold red mine:

LOL! I would go see their musical! I would be loaded down with rotten maters! But hey, that is just me. ;)

now spiritwolf- I'm sure it would be like the Pep Rally- no back packs, no purses, no recording devices, etc. However, you might be able to sneak a bamboo shoot in your sock!


hey- off the top of anyone's head here- was Grandma Shirley listed on the witness list?

anyone know if Casey's cell records even show her calling her grandma at all during June and July?

I don't recall seeing Shirley's name listed at all as a saved # in her records.

If A's phone records were searched, I guess it's possible that Cindy could've been playing a sound bite of Caylee in the background to try to trick her mother into thinking it was Caylee- as another step in helping her daughter.

[Postergeist]

the Manwill family could teach the Anthonys a lesson in class and humility.


http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0609-manwill_family.b56baa45.html

that was nice of them to thank the community- I don't recall that the A family or any of their spokespeople/attornies did.

[Zarina]

now spiritwolf- I'm sure it would be like the Pep Rally- no back packs, no purses, no recording devices, etc. However, you might be able to sneak a bamboo shoot in your sock!


hey- off the top of anyone's head here- was Grandma Shirley listed on the witness list?

anyone know if Casey's cell records even show her calling her grandma at all during June and July?

I don't recall seeing Shirley's name listed at all as a saved # in her records.

If A's phone records were searched, I guess it's possible that Cindy could've been playing a sound bite of Caylee in the background to try to trick her mother into thinking it was Caylee- as another step in helping her daughter.

Yes, Shirley is on proecution witness list.

http://www.legalstoc.com/2009/01/26/casey-anthony-prosecution-witness-list/

[Postergeist]

I'm not real informed about narcissists or psychopaths, but what has disturbed me from the beginning is their constant remarks about "my daughter", "my grandaughter". That little girl". Why would they not mention them by name? Anyone?

just a lay person sammy- but I think the "my" just shows basically ownership, pride...but it would show a separation if say it's a couple and one refers to something/someone- ie. "my house" vs. "our" house, 'my son' vs. 'our' with the other one present.

It's much easier tho to say a 2 syllable name "Caylee" however, notice all the family tends to be quite wordy.

The title tho of "that little girl" would be something that I think does raise the eyebrows of forensic linguist folks, experienced crime sleuths, etc. depending on how the phrase is used.

[Postergeist]

Hi Everyone! Thanks so much desmom for posting those links yesterday, to the Jail Video Visitation of August 14, 2008. Here is the link to the first part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=related

Something is bugging me. Do all the Anthonys use the word "myself" improperly in sentences? I would like to think that I haven't used it incorrectly all of my life, but now I'm wondering. Someone please please settle this issue within my own mind. :confused: :blushing:

I heard Casey say that "Jose is focusing on Caylee and I"

I would say "me" in that sentence.

I did notice what the person that uploaded posted -

INTERESTING...KRONKS 1st 911 CALLS WERE AUG 11,12,13. THIS IS THE 14th. Raw Video: Casey Anthony Jail Visitation With Parent August 14, 2008.

Reading that and then seeing Cindy in the beginning of the tape and her with her hands up to her face in the 'prayer' positioning and crying at the very beginning (Casey is perky) makes me wonder if somehow the parents got wind of that fact that Kronk had made those calls.

[Postergeist]

Yes, Shirley is on proecution witness list.

http://www.legalstoc.com/2009/01/26/casey-anthony-prosecution-witness-list/

TYVM Zarina! :smile:

[Zarina]

TYVM Zarina! :smile:

The print is tiny. Do you know how to enlarge it?

[sydney]

howdy, everyone! just a quick thought...

why does EVERYTHING have to be public knowledge just because the a's are involved? (ok, redundant, i know)

in my own, humble opinion, re-baptism should be a private, personal, spiritual experience between you, your minister/pastor and your maker - not be done for public display. imo they cheapened this act and made it nothing by putting it out there in the media. and why did they have to do it on caylee's birthday? how was that honoring her memory?

i think they're just practicing christianthony - not the real thing.

(ok, done now. going back into lurk mode for a while)

(hey poster! hope you're feeling better!)

[Postergeist]

The print is tiny. Do you know how to enlarge it?

Just click on the Full Screen button on the top right of the page is the easiest. Or change zoom level to a higher %.

[101Spots]

just a lay person sammy- but I think the "my" just shows basically ownership, pride...but it would show a separation if say it's a couple and one refers to something/someone- ie. "my house" vs. "our" house, 'my son' vs. 'our' with the other one present.

It's much easier tho to say a 2 syllable name "Caylee" however, notice all the family tends to be quite wordy.

The title tho of "that little girl" would be something that I think does raise the eyebrows of forensic linguist folks, experienced crime sleuths, etc. depending on how the phrase is used.

Actually, when speaking to strangers, or even acquaintances, it is very common to use descriptive phrases instead of a person's name.

Consider:

My mother-in-law just got in from Alaska.

Fred paid back the money he owed.

The decriptor mother-in-law gives you more information than "Mabel just got back......" unless you know that the speaker's MIL is named Mabel. (Remember you're a stranger to this speaker.) You can file this away with some inate understanding that you may have to look at pictures of Alaska if you run into the speaker's MIL.

You know nothing about Fred, except that he pays his debts. Fred could be the speaker's uncle, brother, a friend from Upper Slobovia, or Fred Flintstone. Without the identifiers, this statement is useless to you. If a person named Fred owes you money, you still have to find out ~which~ Fred pays his debts in order to (a) worry that you're out the money or (b) heave a sigh of relief that you'll be getting your money back.

Descriptors such as "my father" or "the mail carrier" set the scene and provide a relationship that can be used to evaluate the information. And considering all the "Caseys" and "Lees" in this case, use of a descriptor clearly shows which one is being referred to at the time.

"That little girl" defies description, as everybody knows who she is. In this case, "Caylee" is more appropriate. However, George probably considers the public as strangers, and by habit lapses into using descriptors rather than her name. It drives me nuts, but remember that we know George, Cindy, Casey, Lee, et al, much better than they know us.

As for the use of my/our: I use both. When I'm talking to a person who knows me, but not my DH, I will use "my." For those who know both of us, I'll use "our."

[101Spots]

I heard Casey say that "Jose is focusing on Caylee and I"

I would say "me" in that sentence.

I did notice what the person that uploaded posted -

INTERESTING...KRONKS 1st 911 CALLS WERE AUG 11,12,13. THIS IS THE 14th. Raw Video: Casey Anthony Jail Visitation With Parent August 14, 2008.

Reading that and then seeing Cindy in the beginning of the tape and her with her hands up to her face in the 'prayer' positioning and crying at the very beginning (Casey is perky) makes me wonder if somehow the parents got wind of that fact that Kronk had made those calls.
"Me" is correct.

To test any sentence, simply remove the other person:

Jose is focusing on Caylee and I.
Jose is focusing on I. :thumbdown:

Jose is focusing on me. :thumbup:

So: Jose is focusing on Caylee and me.

[Zarina]

Just click on the Full Screen button on the top right of the page is the easiest. Or change zoom level to a higher %.

Thanks, I know how, just asking if you did, before you run for magnifying glass :smile: Some people don't know how to do it. :rolleyes:

[Sun]

I heard Casey say that "Jose is focusing on Caylee and I"

I would say "me" in that sentence.

I did notice what the person that uploaded posted -

INTERESTING...KRONKS 1st 911 CALLS WERE AUG 11,12,13. THIS IS THE 14th. Raw Video: Casey Anthony Jail Visitation With Parent August 14, 2008.

Reading that and then seeing Cindy in the beginning of the tape and her with her hands up to her face in the 'prayer' positioning and crying at the very beginning (Casey is perky) makes me wonder if somehow the parents got wind of that fact that Kronk had made those calls.

And keep in mind that Baez and DCasey visited with Casey in the jail on August 8. ...this is the ONLY time that DCasey visited Casey, and he is one of the handful of folks outside the Baez firm that has ever been allowed to visit with Casey.

[Postergeist]

howdy, everyone! just a quick thought...

why does EVERYTHING have to be public knowledge just because the a's are involved? (ok, redundant, i know)

in my own, humble opinion, re-baptism should be a private, personal, spiritual experience between you, your minister/pastor and your maker - not be done for public display. imo they cheapened this act and made it nothing by putting it out there in the media. and why did they have to do it on caylee's birthday? how was that honoring her memory?

i think they're just practicing christianthony - not the real thing.

(ok, done now. going back into lurk mode for a while)

(hey poster! hope you're feeling better!)

Hey ya syd! I'm heading to the store here in a few- but wanted to comment on your post.

While I think one can be baptized and only a few witness it- or even just one witness- the person doing the baptism, and that is fine, it's also fine to go boldly before the Lord and accept Him with your baptism too- but I don't think it was done in front of cameras. BUT- not sure on that- because maybe this church does video tape them. No media cameras were inside the church from the reports I read.

The only things I can think of as to why they would call this a "re-baptism" is that the A's were baptized in another denomination and this church- to be a member- requires you to be baptized there and will not acknowledge a transfer of faith, etc. (which, IMO is wrong) or that the A's only had the sprinkling at a previous church and not full immersion, which the Baptists believe in, imo.

I don't understand why they picked Caylee's birthday and not Cindy's birthday or any other Sunday to do this either.


thanx, better, I'll send PM later on

[sydney]

hey postie and all my other buds!

regarding the re-baptism, what i meant was, it may not have been videotaped, but it sure was put out to the media! i suppose it is possible the pastor or someone could have mentioned it, but i think to do so without the a's permission would have been exceedingly rude, to say the least.

[Sun]

"Me" is correct.

To test any sentence, simply remove the other person:

Jose is focusing on Caylee and I.
Jose is focusing on I. :thumbdown:

Jose is focusing on me. :thumbup:

So: Jose is focusing on Caylee and me.


That is EXACTLY how I was taught to figure out which to use. We must have had the same teachers!!! But the Anthonys seems to use "myself" instead of "me" ....and this just sounds so wrong to me.

[101Spots]

That is EXACTLY how I was taught to figure out which to use. We must have had the same teachers!!! But the Anthonys seems to use "myself" instead of "me" ....and this just sounds so wrong to me.

It am. :D:

[sydney]

My bold.
:lol:
What an accurate observation.
I was also wondering if the Anthony's would now begin tithing.
They money they live off of is the fraudations, so its not really theirs. They are unemployed so 10% of their income is $.00.

they are keeping such a low profile lately (well, lower than it was in the beginning which i think is a good idea). i wonder what they do all day? are they still promoting the fraudation? does ga drive his billboard around with another missing child's photo on it? does he take the boat out to find missing children in the water? if not and find missing children is so important to the a's, why have both of them stopped doing anything in that direction?

[imc_e]

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

[Deannalynn]

I certainly hope so George!

(from your link Des)-

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html 8/11/08

"She's (Casey) going to have to pay for some of the stuff she's put herself and put her daughter through," George Anthony said last week.

and then lying Cindy- which you brought up the other day Des-

Cindy said she shared new information with investigators Monday about Casey's phone records that she says shows Casey really did get a call from Caylee on July 15 from a "private number." She's even claiming that Caylee's great grandmother heard from Caylee during the time she's been missing.

wow- guess Heaven is listed as a private #.


Don't call us, we'll call you. Sugarloaf


I find it very suspicious if Cindy spoke to Casey everyday by phone or by text in that entire month and not once did she demand in that entire month to speak to Caylee. If she did and Casey kept giving her excuses (If I was the grand mama) I would have known something was not right. Especially if in the past, Casey always gave the phone to Caylee when asked.
Cindy knew something wasn't right in that month. That has to be obvious. If not, then she was not the QUEEN grand mama she portrays she was.:thumbdown:

[sydney]

That is EXACTLY how I was taught to figure out which to use. We must have had the same teachers!!! But the Anthonys seems to use "myself" instead of "me" ....and this just sounds so wrong to me.

but they use so many other words in improper ways - collaborate instead of corroborate is one example. i think they are trying in vain to sound more intelligent (superior?) than they are. instead, they come off as the exact opposite.

[summer]

I find it very suspicious if Cindy spoke to Casey everyday by phone or by text in that entire month and not once did she demand in that entire month to speak to Caylee. If she did and Casey kept giving her excuses (If I was the grand mama) I would have known something was not right. Especially if in the past, Casey always gave the phone to Caylee when asked.
Cindy knew something wasn't right in that month. That has to be obvious. If not, then she was not the QUEEN grand mama she portrays she was.:thumbdown:

Hi Deannalynn, she supposedly did ask but was told Caylee was napping, at the beach, (fill in any excuse here). And of course Cindy knowing what a stellar truth-teller Casey was she did not dig deeper. :rolleyes:

[summer]

but they use so many other words in improper ways - collaborate instead of corroborate is one example. i think they are trying in vain to sound more intelligent (superior?) than they are. instead, they come off as the exact opposite.

They talk in malapropisms. They're fundamentally ignorant and illiterate. IMO.

[anon-o-miss]

Hi Everyone! Thanks so much desmom for posting those links yesterday, to the Jail Video Visitation of August 14, 2008. Here is the link to the first part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCpCinUYFwY&feature=related

Something is bugging me. Do all the Anthonys use the word "myself" improperly in sentences? I would like to think that I haven't used it incorrectly all of my life, but now I'm wondering. Someone please please settle this issue within my own mind. :confused: :blushing:

I'm not one to give any grammar lessons, I make errors all the time lol. However, this is one of the videos that really showed me that Caylee was not coming home alive and that Casey knew it. When Cindy says (towards the beginning), "Someone told us Caylee was dead today...." Casey's face drops like she was thinking, "what? oh no.." Then, Cindy continues on to say that the person said something about Caylee drowned in the pool and Casey relaxes (Because she knew that's not what happened). As soon as I watched that I thought "that &!+@h".

[sydney]

They talk in malapropisms. They're fundamentally ignorant and illiterate. IMO.

i must say i learn a LOT from these boards - never heard that word at all, and i've heard a LOT of words in my life!:wink: i looked it up (even though i KINDA knew what it meant) and this is what i found:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism&ei=UaeBStCRFpDOsQOS_vDvCA&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&usg=AFQjCNFX6rZaa4g4iufKyaA1hJp3amm_rA

"A malapropism (also called a Dogberryism or acyrologia) is the substitution of an incorrect word for a word with a similar sound, usually to comic effect. It is not the same as an eggcorn, which is a similar substitution in which the new phrase makes sense on some level."

(bold is mine)

so, thanks summer! another word i can use someday!

[Sun]

It am. :D:

Thank you. :thumbup:

[Sun]

I'm not one to give any grammar lessons, I make errors all the time lol. However, this is one of the videos that really showed me that Caylee was not coming home alive and that Casey knew it. When Cindy says (towards the beginning), "Someone told us Caylee was dead today...." Casey's face drops like she was thinking, "what? oh no.." Then, Cindy continues on to say that the person said something about Caylee drowned in the pool and Casey relaxes (Because she knew that's not what happened). As soon as I watched that I thought "that &!+@h".

Yes, this jail visitation video shows Casey's frustration in the fact that she knows Caylee is dead. And, that she is frustrated that Cindy and George won't just let her be done with that chapter. They want to still discuss it... and Casey does not. This is one jail video visitation that I hope that the jury gets to see.

[farrahrani]

just a lay person sammy- but I think the "my" just shows basically ownership, pride...but it would show a separation if say it's a couple and one refers to something/someone- ie. "my house" vs. "our" house, 'my son' vs. 'our' with the other one present.

It's much easier tho to say a 2 syllable name "Caylee" however, notice all the family tends to be quite wordy.

The title tho of "that little girl" would be something that I think does raise the eyebrows of forensic linguist folks, experienced crime sleuths, etc. depending on how the phrase is used.


I agree with the 'my' this and that, I didn't really give it much thought before. I'm thinking along the lines that 'that child' and use of 'that' instead of her name is an attempt to objectify Caylee, to treat her as something that is now a finished matter. 'Terminal Event' 'That child', these are pathetic attempts to turn the murder of an innocent child into something that has happened and is now over, nothing more important to be done with it, let's all be impartial and move on.

Very dehumanizing, and I don't think it will work. She was two when she was killed, and I hope every time the prosecution refers to her, they use the phrase, "baby Caylee' to bring it all back home to the reality and grit of what the trial is about.

[Deannalynn]

Hi Deannalynn, she supposedly did ask but was told Caylee was napping, at the beach, (fill in any excuse here). And of course Cindy knowing what a stellar truth-teller Casey was she did not dig deeper. :rolleyes:

Long azz nap if you ask me. I would have been asking for her everyday.
If I didn't get to talk to my baby grand daughter after a whole week I would have really been irritated. There' should have been red flags all over the place if I was not able to talk to Caylee for a month of excuses. After all Gramma Cindy claims she and Caylee were extremely close. Just sayin...
Of course we are all a little different then the Anthony's.
I look at it this way. Obviously, Cindy and Casey got into it, numerous times. Based on what I heard and read from the tapes at the jail and the Nancy Grace link that was provided. So that would not have given me a red flag. However, With the argument they did have and Casey storming out with Caylee that particular night, I would have insisted on hearing from Caylee and NOT wait a whole month to finally go looking for her. The reason Cindy went looking for her that time was all about Money! Not Caylee. Until she showed up at the door and finally asked to see Caylee. That's not the Gramma she portrays to be.
"I gave you a month, I'm not giving you another day."
This statement gives me reason to believe she asked for Caylee several times in that month. Cindy knew Casey was a pathological liar. She knew there was something seriously wrong by the time she was sitting at TonE's dootstep. She didn't appear surprised when Cindy and Amy came to the door. Perhaps surprised it was Amy with Cindy. Casey must have been pizzed when it was Amy with mom since she was filling Amy full of lies the entire time they were hanging out. Casey had to know they had already been talking...:glare:

[anon-o-miss]

I find it very suspicious if Cindy spoke to Casey everyday by phone or by text in that entire month and not once did she demand in that entire month to speak to Caylee. If she did and Casey kept giving her excuses (If I was the grand mama) I would have known something was not right. Especially if in the past, Casey always gave the phone to Caylee when asked.
Cindy knew something wasn't right in that month. That has to be obvious. If not, then she was not the QUEEN grand mama she portrays she was.:thumbdown:
So true. Even when my kiddies are on punishment they can always talk to their Grannies. If Cindy was so adamant about speaking to Caylee why didn't she ask for a # to get ahold of her. Just like when Casey told her Zanny had just gotten into an accident and Caylee was at the hotel, why didn't Cindy say, "Oh ok, well what room is that so I can say goodnight to Caylee." Or even," Whose name is the room in just in case I want to talk to Caylee." Cindy went to great lengths to try to track Casey down in those 31 days, despite what she would like us to think. Yet when she had Casey on the ropes, so to speak, she always let her wriggle free. Cindy always knew something was hinky, she just didn't want to know the truth. If Cindy didn't know what Casey was capable of then why did she (according to Lee) ask her,"WHAT DID YOU DO?"

[anon-o-miss]

Yes, this jail visitation video shows Casey's frustration in the fact that she knows Caylee is dead. And, that she is frustrated that Cindy and George won't just let her be done with that chapter. They want to still discuss it... and Casey does not. This is one jail video visitation that I hope that the jury gets to see.
ITA!!! Just like when Cindy says something to the effect of,"I understand ...." Casey reply is something along the lines of," No you don't... If you did you wouldn't be asking me these questions." That told me her priority is not finding Caylee, it's totally all about covering her @$$.

[Katprint]

They talk in malapropisms. They're fundamentally ignorant and illiterate. IMO.
I find their malapropisms to be quite revealing, in a "Freudian slip" kind of way. Remember George's deposition in the civil case, where he spelled out Zanny's name as "Z-A-N-Y"? Because it would be zany ("fantastically or absurdly ludicrous" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zany ) for anyone to believe Casey's invisi-nanny Zanny story.

And yes, the Anthonys were indeed collaborating ("to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country" per http://www.answers.com/topic/collaborate ) as opposed to corroborating ("to support with evidence or authority : make more certain" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corroborate ) so perhaps that was an eggcorn after all.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[breezie]

I find their malapropisms to be quite revealing, in a "Freudian slip" kind of way. Remember George's deposition in the civil case, where he spelled out Zanny's name as "Z-A-N-Y"? Because it would be zany ("fantastically or absurdly ludicrous" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zany ) for anyone to believe Casey's invisi-nanny Zanny story.

And yes, the Anthonys were indeed collaborating ("to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country" per http://www.answers.com/topic/collaborate ) as opposed to corroborating ("to support with evidence or authority : make more certain" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corroborate ) so perhaps that was an eggcorn after all.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I had to :lol: at the collaborating. I thought... do you realize what you are saying!? LOL.

[sydney]

I find their malapropisms to be quite revealing, in a "Freudian slip" kind of way. Remember George's deposition in the civil case, where he spelled out Zanny's name as "Z-A-N-Y"? Because it would be zany ("fantastically or absurdly ludicrous" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zany ) for anyone to believe Casey's invisi-nanny Zanny story.

And yes, the Anthonys were indeed collaborating ("to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country" per http://www.answers.com/topic/collaborate ) as opposed to corroborating ("to support with evidence or authority : make more certain" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corroborate ) so perhaps that was an eggcorn after all.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

awww, kat. perhaps we should forward this on to those who really need to understand these things? :wink:

[Kathlb]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

I had to comment. (in a respectful but tell it like it is way) Supposedly he will approve it? I signed it with my name also so he can't accuse me of hiding behind anonymous. :mad:

[Kathlb]

Good morning everyone. Wow, news of cindy and george getting baptized on Caylee's birthday is just so inappropriate. I don't fault the minister, his job is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and take them into the fold. But really, how can they pull a PR stunt like this with a good conscience?

While it's true only God knows what is in their hearts, it's going to be very interesting to observe their words, actions and behavior from this point forward.

Cindy can't keep up the act that long. She'll fade within a two week period and revert back to the same Lee finger pointing, cussing, accusing person she has been all along in my estimation. MOO

[BobbysGirl]

Wow! I been away from boards most of summer. A hit and miss read/post here/there.

The A's got re-baptized on Caylee's Birth date? Unbelievable. I wonder if they were ever baptized? What a weird thing to do. Did they find Jesus or something? Sorry, I don't mean to sound critical but I thought they were not spiritual/religious people. My bad. I hope they found their God and change will take place. I can only dream.

BG

[BobbysGirl]

They talk in malapropisms. They're fundamentally ignorant and illiterate. IMO.

I am trying to read back a bit. Too funny, malapropisms. I have to agree. Such the way it is.

BG

[summer]

i must say i learn a LOT from these boards - never heard that word at all, and i've heard a LOT of words in my life!:wink: i looked it up (even though i KINDA knew what it meant) and this is what i found:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism&ei=UaeBStCRFpDOsQOS_vDvCA&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&usg=AFQjCNFX6rZaa4g4iufKyaA1hJp3amm_rA

"A malapropism (also called a Dogberryism or acyrologia) is the substitution of an incorrect word for a word with a similar sound, usually to comic effect. It is not the same as an eggcorn, which is a similar substitution in which the new phrase makes sense on some level."

(bold is mine)

so, thanks summer! another word i can use someday!

You're welcome sydney! It's the Malaprop Family!

[summer]

I find their malapropisms to be quite revealing, in a "Freudian slip" kind of way. Remember George's deposition in the civil case, where he spelled out Zanny's name as "Z-A-N-Y"? Because it would be zany ("fantastically or absurdly ludicrous" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zany ) for anyone to believe Casey's invisi-nanny Zanny story.

And yes, the Anthonys were indeed collaborating ("to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country" per http://www.answers.com/topic/collaborate ) as opposed to corroborating ("to support with evidence or authority : make more certain" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corroborate ) so perhaps that was an eggcorn after all.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Hi Katprint. HA. I'm so glad you brought up that example. I laughed out loud when I heard it myself. They've done that several times, that Freudian slip thing - and they don't go back and correct themselves either because they have no idea what they're saying or what the words really mean. Thanks.

[Explorer]

Wow! I been away from boards most of summer. A hit and miss read/post here/there.

The A's got re-baptized on Caylee's Birth date? Unbelievable. I wonder if they were ever baptized? What a weird thing to do. Did they find Jesus or something? Sorry, I don't mean to sound critical but I thought they were not spiritual/religious people. My bad. I hope they found their God and change will take place. I can only dream.

BG

They are hiding behind it to make themselves seem credible.

[Bala]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!
JMO but it sounds a lot like Cindy. I guess the baptism stunt didn't get the results she wanted so they need to attack someone with real faith.

[GIGI4256]

They are hiding behind it to make themselves seem credible.

What a shame! They are vile, vile individuals.

[Bala]

What I have never understood and Cindy should have questioned is why would Zanny take Caylee on vacation with her in the first place. I'm assuming that babysitting is how "Zanny" supported herself and her children. When you take a holiday from your job you usually leave the job behind.

[BobbysGirl]

They are hiding behind it to make themselves seem credible.
HI
LOL They are hiding behind it? IMO NO WAY!
What would be credible if they faced up to all their lies and denial. I hope they find their true inner strength renewal to see who and what their daughter did. IMO. Time for them to ch** and get off the pity/potty and face the facts.

God Bless Caylee. Hard to believe the facade has gone on this long. Over a year? What or who are they? Definite not humane. They are very strange. I cannot comprehend. Grrrrrrrrr

BG

MOO

[spiritwolf46]

Jose is very good at this too:
"I have some manners to discuss with my client" LOL :wink:

They are ALL a bunch of Archie Bunkers! ;)

[margaritaville]

Wow! I been away from boards most of summer. A hit and miss read/post here/there.

The A's got re-baptized on Caylee's Birth date? Unbelievable. I wonder if they were ever baptized? What a weird thing to do. Did they find Jesus or something? Sorry, I don't mean to sound critical but I thought they were not spiritual/religious people. My bad. I hope they found their God and change will take place. I can only dream.

BG


Yep, Caylee can't have that day all to herself... the needy ones need to take that away from her too....Sick, sick sick!!!
MOO

[101Spots]

They are hiding behind it to make themselves seem credible.

Getting baptized a second time allows Cindy to say she's twice as holy as thou. As evidenced by her attitude.

[Katprint]

Getting baptized a second time allows Cindy to say she's twice as holy as thou. As evidenced by her attitude.
I don't know how Cindy could be much holier. She has already claimed the authority to boss God around concerning who He must assign as a guardian angel. Apparently God cannot simply let Caylee enjoy some well-deserved playtime in Heaven. Nope, Cindy has ordered God to put Caylee right to work!

Katprint
Who hopes Caylee's soul is peacefully playing in Heaven, enjoying the pleasures of childhood that
Caylee's mortal body was untimely deprived of, and not hard at work on guardian angel duty.
Always only my own opinions

[Deannalynn]

What I have never understood and Cindy should have questioned is why would Zanny take Caylee on vacation with her in the first place. I'm assuming that babysitting is how "Zanny" supported herself and her children. When you take a holiday from your job you usually leave the job behind.

Of course you are right.
Cindy knew Casey didn't want anything to do with her own daughter and she wanted to be separated from her as long as she could be. She had them believing (later) that Zanny became her BFF. That would be a reason not to question or think twice if "Zanny" took Caylee on vacation.
Casey was her Bff, too. This way it would be reasonable for the "Zanny" to take Caylee often off the clock.
OR...On. Anytime any amount just take Caylee...

[Julie Dupree]

but they use so many other words in improper ways - collaborate instead of corroborate is one example. i think they are trying in vain to sound more intelligent (superior?) than they are. instead, they come off as the exact opposite.

I think Cindy feels she is intellectually superior...:)

[101Spots]

Awwwwwww........

Mally-Bu is aggravated because her iPod died. :mad:

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

[AnniePie]

"Me" is correct.

To test any sentence, simply remove the other person:

Jose is focusing on Caylee and I.
Jose is focusing on I. :thumbdown:

Jose is focusing on me. :thumbup:

So: Jose is focusing on Caylee and me.

Okay, as long as he isn't focusing on any of us. :laugh:

[Julie Dupree]

Long azz nap if you ask me. I would have been asking for her everyday.
If I didn't get to talk to my baby grand daughter after a whole week I would have really been irritated. There' should have been red flags all over the place if I was not able to talk to Caylee for a month of excuses. After all Gramma Cindy claims she and Caylee were extremely close. Just sayin...
Of course we are all a little different then the Anthony's.
I look at it this way. Obviously, Cindy and Casey got into it, numerous times. Based on what I heard and read from the tapes at the jail and the Nancy Grace link that was provided. So that would not have given me a red flag. However, With the argument they did have and Casey storming out with Caylee that particular night, I would have insisted on hearing from Caylee and NOT wait a whole month to finally go looking for her. The reason Cindy went looking for her that time was all about Money! Not Caylee. Until she showed up at the door and finally asked to see Caylee. That's not the Gramma she portrays to be.
"I gave you a month, I'm not giving you another day."
This statement gives me reason to believe she asked for Caylee several times in that month. Cindy knew Casey was a pathological liar. She knew there was something seriously wrong by the time she was sitting at TonE's dootstep. She didn't appear surprised when Cindy and Amy came to the door. Perhaps surprised it was Amy with Cindy. Casey must have been pizzed when it was Amy with mom since she was filling Amy full of lies the entire time they were hanging out. Casey had to know they had already been talking...:glare:

I can not think of any excuse that I could be given that would keep me from seeing/speaking with my grandchildren. I know Cindy called/texted Casey several times. (We know that according to the phone logs there were several min of conversation between Casey's phone and the Anthony home phone.) I do not understand how Cindy went that long without knowing more about where Caylee was. This is one of this case's most puzzling pieces.

[Julie Dupree]

So true. Even when my kiddies are on punishment they can always talk to their Grannies. If Cindy was so adamant about speaking to Caylee why didn't she ask for a # to get ahold of her. Just like when Casey told her Zanny had just gotten into an accident and Caylee was at the hotel, why didn't Cindy say, "Oh ok, well what room is that so I can say goodnight to Caylee." Or even," Whose name is the room in just in case I want to talk to Caylee." Cindy went to great lengths to try to track Casey down in those 31 days, despite what she would like us to think. Yet when she had Casey on the ropes, so to speak, she always let her wriggle free. Cindy always knew something was hinky, she just didn't want to know the truth. If Cindy didn't know what Casey was capable of then why did she (according to Lee) ask her,"WHAT DID YOU DO?"

It is for sure she spent more time trying to chase Casey down than she did Caylee.

[Julie Dupree]

I find their malapropisms to be quite revealing, in a "Freudian slip" kind of way. Remember George's deposition in the civil case, where he spelled out Zanny's name as "Z-A-N-Y"? Because it would be zany ("fantastically or absurdly ludicrous" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zany ) for anyone to believe Casey's invisi-nanny Zanny story.

And yes, the Anthonys were indeed collaborating ("to cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country" per http://www.answers.com/topic/collaborate ) as opposed to corroborating ("to support with evidence or authority : make more certain" per http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/corroborate ) so perhaps that was an eggcorn after all.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Excellent explanation...:)

[AnniePie]

Hey ya syd! I'm heading to the store here in a few- but wanted to comment on your post.

While I think one can be baptized and only a few witness it- or even just one witness- the person doing the baptism, and that is fine, it's also fine to go boldly before the Lord and accept Him with your baptism too- but I don't think it was done in front of cameras. BUT- not sure on that- because maybe this church does video tape them. No media cameras were inside the church from the reports I read.

The only things I can think of as to why they would call this a "re-baptism" is that the A's were baptized in another denomination and this church- to be a member- requires you to be baptized there and will not acknowledge a transfer of faith, etc. (which, IMO is wrong) or that the A's only had the sprinkling at a previous church and not full immersion, which the Baptists believe in, imo.

I don't understand why they picked Caylee's birthday and not Cindy's birthday or any other Sunday to do this either.


thanx, better, I'll send PM later on

I was baptized as a baby. When I became an adult, I got baptized because the first time it was done to me and I had no awareness of the meaning of it. The second time I was baptized, it was an adult when I really wanted to follow the Bible and do what Jesus commanded His followers to do. This was done in a nondenominational church.

I'm telling you this to say that it is common practise in many churches (not just Baptist churches) for an adult to be "re-baptized" if he makes a commitment as an adult to become a Christian.

As msgatorslayer said earlier, it is not our business to judge anyone to know if they are sincere in their faith. BUT when someone makes a commitment to the Lord as an adult, there will be accompanying fruit that will follow this decision.

And as I said earlier, we will either see the Anthonys tell the truth for the first time since this "conversion", or we won't. If we don't, it means that they were doing this for some kind of glory for themselves rather than for God.

[Julie Dupree]

What I have never understood and Cindy should have questioned is why would Zanny take Caylee on vacation with her in the first place. I'm assuming that babysitting is how "Zanny" supported herself and her children. When you take a holiday from your job you usually leave the job behind.

Remember Bala, Zanny has money!!!! I do not remember if she is considered rich, but Casey did say she had money. So, I am sure she was happy to help Casey out and take and pay for Caylee while on vacation.

[Zarina]

Pictures of Injury Marks on Caylee Anthony Tell a Story


http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/08/pictures-of-caylee/

[AnniePie]

I had to comment. (in a respectful but tell it like it is way) Supposedly he will approve it? I signed it with my name also so he can't accuse me of hiding behind anonymous. :mad:

But you have to become a "follower" in order to post, don't you? I don't want to be this dipwad's follower in any way. Richard Grund and his family are some of the only people who are standing up for Caylee.

[Julie Dupree]

I was baptized as a baby. When I became an adult, I got baptized because the first time it was done to me and I had no awareness of the meaning of it. The second time I was baptized, it was an adult when I really wanted to follow the Bible and do what Jesus commanded His followers to do. This was done in a nondenominational church.

I'm telling you this to say that it is common practise in many churches (not just Baptist churches) for an adult to be "re-baptized" if he makes a commitment as an adult to become a Christian.

As msgatorslayer said earlier, it is not our business to judge anyone to know if they are sincere in their faith. BUT when someone makes a commitment to the Lord as an adult, there will be accompanying fruit that will follow this decision.

And as I said earlier, we will either see the Anthonys tell the truth for the first time since this "conversion", or we won't. If we don't, it means that they were doing this for some kind of glory for themselves rather than for God.

First, let me say I am not Baptist so I am really not any kind of expert as to what this church professes/believes/teaches.
I do know several couples who are Baptist and with each one of them the husband/father is the more dominate partner because they believe the man is responsible, both financially and emotionally, for his partner and family.
If this is true, maybe we will see a stronger George in the coming days.

[really3997]

On his FB page today Richard Grund said: Just wanted to share with everyone what my family and I endure because of our standing up for Caylee, for others and for what is right. Feel free to share and post this offensive attack. "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11


http://exposingrgrund.blogspot.com/

The fellow running this blog has no idea what he's up against, and he's a joke. He's calling RG's blogs and twitter comments harassment, when all Richard is doing is defending his son. If you'll notice, he has NO followers. LOL

Way to go for sticking up for Caylee, Richard!

Ok I am confuses exactly what was exposed by this blog.:confused:

[Deannalynn]

Pictures of Injury Marks on Caylee Anthony Tell a Story


http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/08/pictures-of-caylee/

I'm not prepared to point fingers at a possible abuse issue.
A lot of children loose their balance and trip and fall. Just because she was hated by her own mother I think murder is just about the worst thing. (of course it is) Plus, I don't think Casey would be STUPID enough to smack her or punch her if she was taking her to TonE's and also Caylee being around her Gand-mama...Dunno.
Unless you are implying that Cindy was smacking her around as well. I doubt that. At Caylee age she was able to point. I remember when my son was 2 and he ran out in the middle of the street trying to get away from Nana. Nana patted him on the butt and said, NO you mustn't do that ever again because a car will hit you.
When she got him home to me, my son (at 2) said "Momma, Momma..."nana, Nana. Then he took his hand and smacked himself on his behind. He was wanting to let me know what happened in the day. Nana told me what happened so I told my son, you mustn't run out in the street and run from Nana. You will get hurt!" Kiss, kiss and all that mushy stuff..:biggrin:

[imc_e]

Ok I am confuses exactly what was exposed by this blog.:confused:

Ya really! There is NO harassment by RGrund on any blog or in any media interview WHATSOever.

He only has kind words to say about Caylee, and he does have every right to protect his INNOCENT son.

Once again, SHAME on the Anthonys for spinning lies and obstructing the truth.

They want Caylee's voice SILENCED! Not gonna happen.

[really3997]

Ya really! There is NO harassment by RGrund on any blog or in any media interview WHATSOever.

He only has kind words to say about Caylee, and he does have every right to protect his INNOCENT son.

Once again, SHAME on the Anthonys for spinning lies and obstructing the truth.

They want Caylee's voice SILENCED! Not gonna happen.

One more thing. Is this the same church were the pastor sold his story to the NE

[Pruddennce]

I certainly hope so George!

(from your link Des)-

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html 8/11/08

"She's (Casey) going to have to pay for some of the stuff she's put herself and put her daughter through," George Anthony said last week.

and then lying Cindy- which you brought up the other day Des-

Cindy said she shared new information with investigators Monday about Casey's phone records that she says shows Casey really did get a call from Caylee on July 15 from a "private number." She's even claiming that Caylee's great grandmother heard from Caylee during the time she's been missing.

wow- guess Heaven is listed as a private #.


Don't call us, we'll call you. Sugarloaf


from that link in August of last year, ok: look closely to Cindy's explanation:

"How did the person who had Caylee get your mother's phone number?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.

"She was programmed into my daughter's phone," Cindy said.

how does that explain how CAYLEE's kidnapper called Casey? was that response inferring the kidnapper had Casey's LOST PHONE AS WELL AS CAYLEE and was using it???

or was it simply another nonsensical answer to a POIGNANT QUESTION, Cindy actually didnt know what she was saying at that moment?...lol!

I choose explanation 2.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Imperfect4]

Awwwwwww........

Mally-Bu is aggravated because her iPod died. :mad:

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

Oh FGS. barf

[trich]

We know that Caylee hurt herself by falling against or on
TonE's coffee table in his apartment.
He has already said that.
If it was not TonE's it was another guys table.
I don't think any of Casey's friends that saw Caylee often
said there were any signs of abuse.
Now I am not defending a murderer but I do not believe
Caylee was physically abused in any way.

[spiritwolf46]

Awwwwwww........

Mally-Bu is aggravated because her iPod died. :mad:

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

Oh.....MY.....GAWD! Looks like Mally-Bu FITS RIGHT into this family! :angry:

[Deannalynn]

We know that Caylee hurt herself by falling against or on
TonE's coffee table in his apartment.
He has already said that.
If it was not TonE's it was another guys table.
I don't think any of Casey's friends that saw Caylee often
said there were any signs of abuse.
Now I am not defending a murderer but I do not believe
Caylee was physically abused in any way.

I agree...

[summer]

I agree...

My question is how do you go from tender loving mother to murder in the blink of an eye? I didn't look at the pics because I don't want to, but just because Caylee fell into a coffee table and there was a witness doesn't mean there wasn't abuse at other times, aside from the normal scrapes and falls. IMO.

[AnniePie]

One more thing. Is this the same church were the pastor sold his story to the NE

Here goes my mouth again! :ohmy: Did that really happen?

[martha]

Hi everyone i guess we have nothing new now. I will have to catch up tomorrow because tonight I am worn out and need some sleep.ha, Caylee is still on my mind and in my heart so just wanted to check in. I hope everyone had a great week end and everything is ok. Love you all be back tomorrow.jmho

[imc_e]

Blessed be, but do not quote scripture without reference to the text that you are referring to.

This has nothing to stand on....

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

Where are you getting these scriptures from?

And also what is your point??


TIA

2w4u

PS And I don't want a smart *ss remark. I am open to discussing this topic. And some people may want to take it to the religious board and that would be fine with me, but you did post this on Caylee Anthony's board.

Hi Witchy, I would not post a smart @s reply to you..

Yes I did post it here on Caylee's board.
Simply because it relates to some of the topic we have been discussing.

My source is the Gospel of Matthew written in 63 AD.

Its not only my own opinion, but its the words of Jesus to his disciples from his sermon on the Mount.

Matthew 7: 15-20

[djmsmom]

We know that Caylee hurt herself by falling against or on
TonE's coffee table in his apartment.
He has already said that.
If it was not TonE's it was another guys table.
I don't think any of Casey's friends that saw Caylee often
said there were any signs of abuse.
Now I am not defending a murderer but I do not believe
Caylee was physically abused in any way.

IMO Someone who can wrap duct tape around the mouth of their child, place her body in their trunk and then go rent movies, watch them, then crawl into bed with her new bf, is capable of anything. Also the videos of Caylee when she has a camera on her and is being ignored are weird and show a meaness to her. A form of abuse. I believe
Casey is capable of anything and when alone with Caylee could very well have abused her.

Amys interview with LE she states that Casey was overly strict with Caylee.

[Neffy]

So no one wants to post with me tonite.....that's OK.


2w4u

but remember that I am always here.


"PS And I don't want a smart *ss remark. I am open to discussing this topic. And some people may want to take it to the religious board and that would be fine with me, but you did post this on Caylee Anthony's board."

All I had was a Smart@ remark. Can't have it both ways :laugh:

[Deannalynn]

Hi everyone i guess we have nothing new now. I will have to catch up tomorrow because tonight I am worn out and need some sleep.ha, Caylee is still on my mind and in my heart so just wanted to check in. I hope everyone had a great week end and everything is ok. Love you all be back tomorrow.jmho

Nothing happening here today, Ms. Martha...I'm a little worn out myself..Been running with my "16" year old daughter because she starts school this Thursday. UGH! I hate it when she has to return after a loooong summer with me. :sad:

[Neffy]

from that link in August of last year, ok: look closely to Cindy's explanation:

"How did the person who had Caylee get your mother's phone number?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.

"She was programmed into my daughter's phone," Cindy said.

how does that explain how CAYLEE's kidnapper called Casey? was that response inferring the kidnapper had Casey's LOST PHONE AS WELL AS CAYLEE and was using it???

or was it simply another nonsensical answer to a POIGNANT QUESTION, Cindy actually didnt know what she was saying at that moment?...lol!

I choose explanation 2.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Hey Pru,

Yep, Cindy is still lying. To the bitter end just like her daughter. Never concede. Look for that 1 sliver stacked against mounds of evidence that in the end that sliver means absolutely nothing. I have a private number that shows private when I place a call. The kidnappers must be calling all my friends and family as they all have private listed on their cell phone records. I better warn them.

[Neffy]

Okay Neffy, bring it on.

2w4u

The moment has passed as I like to shoot from the hip. Maybe next time :tongue:

[Deannalynn]

IMO Someone who can wrap duct tape around the mouth of their child, place her body in their trunk and then go rent movies, watch them, then crawl into bed with her new bf, is capable of anything. Also the videos of Caylee when she has a camera on her and is being ignored are weird and show a meaness to her. A form of abuse. I believe
Casey is capable of anything and when alone with Caylee could very well have abused her.

Amys interview with LE she states that Casey was overly strict with Caylee.

I think Casey is nothing but a sneaky little witch, myself...
I don't think (it could be possible) she would have the ying yangs to slap her around as much as she wanted to because of her mother Cindy.
If Caylee would have come home with any marks or bruises on her, Cindy would have really come to the front line. Cindy and Casey are/is use to mental neglect if you ask me. Cindy/Casey are also use to physical abuse. But, I don't think they would attack Caylee. They did attack each other, however.
I don't know except that baby was 2 years old and didn't appear to be jumpy as if she was being hit...
Yes, I agree. Casey is capable of ANYTHING...Now is the reason why we think this. Casey murdered her own daughter. This I know in my heart happened. Sneaky as I said before.:sad:

[cassidy]

Awwwwwww........

Mally-Bu is aggravated because her iPod died. :mad:

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)
Well maybe Lee-Lee-Poo could send his administrative assistant (he did get one for free right?) out to buy Mally-Bu another one post haste!
:)

[imc_e]

Thank You so much for the very polite reply that you gave me.

Thank you very much.

I am well aware of the Sermon on the Mount, but what may I ask does that that to do with Caylee?

TIA

and added by me, I am not trying to be diffulcult, I'm just trying to learn.

TIA

2w4u

I understand.

My post was in reference to certain people being baptized in the spirit and making a committment to God to repent and live their lives as Christians, doing his work.

I believe the point is.. faith and works going hand in hand.

When we understand that, we see easily that works without faith are empty and that faith without works is dead.

If good works are the expression of faith, then true faith expresses itself in helpfulness. It has its fruits.

And if faith bears no fruits, it is not really faith.

Then again it is up for interpetation by anyone.

But I have explained my point as best as I can.

Whether the Anthonys were baptized for media exposure or to build their ruined credibility, we can't know, but we can read what Christ says on the topic and wait and see if their faith is real and if their newfound committment they have made, will bear fruit based and goodness and truth.

:seeya:

[Deannalynn]

Hey Pru,

Yep, Cindy is still lying. To the bitter end just like her daughter. Never concede. Look for that 1 sliver stacked against mounds of evidence that in the end that sliver means absolutely nothing. I have a private number that shows private when I place a call. The kidnappers must be calling all my friends and family as they all have private listed on their cell phone records. I better warn them.

Hello Neffy... Could you help me out here and explain what you mean in this post.
Thanks Neffy...:huh:

[djmsmom]

I understand.

My post was in reference to certain people being baptized in the spirit and making a committment to God to repent and live their lives as Christians, doing his work.

I believe the point is.. faith and works going hand in hand.

When we understand that, we see easily that works without faith are empty and that faith without works is dead.

If good works are the expression of faith, then true faith expresses itself in helpfulness. It has its fruits.

And if faith bears no fruits, it is not really faith.

Then again it is up for interpetation by anyone.

But I have explained my point as best as I can.

Whether the Anthonys were baptized for media exposure or to build their ruined credibility, we can't know, but we can read what Christ says on the topic and wait and see if their faith is real and if their newfound committment they have made, will bear fruit based and goodness and truth.

:seeya:

Very good answer/post

[Neffy]

Hello Neffy... Could you help me out here and explain what you mean in this post.
Thanks Neffy...:huh:

Cindy claiming the new evidence of Casey recieving a call from Caylee as Pru posted. There was a private number so she's claiming that was from the Kidnapper's phone that Caylee called Casey on.
After all Casey said it was so :sneaky:

[Deannalynn]

I understand.

My post was in reference to certain people being baptized in the spirit and making a committment to God to repent and live their lives as Christians, doing his work.

I believe the point is.. faith and works going hand in hand.

When we understand that, we see easily that works without faith are empty and that faith without works is dead.

If good works are the expression of faith, then true faith expresses itself in helpfulness. It has its fruits.

And if faith bears no fruits, it is not really faith.

Then again it is up for interpetation by anyone.

But I have explained my point as best as I can.

Whether the Anthonys were baptized for media exposure or to build their ruined credibility, we can't know, but we can read what Christ says on the topic and wait and see if their faith is real and if their newfound committment they have made, will bear fruit based and goodness and truth.

:seeya:

The way I see it is Christians are always Christians if that's the way you were brought up.
Becoming a better Christian happens everyday.
This is not the Anthony's first Rodeo....

Murder and protecting a murderer is totally not Christian. You kill one person and you might as well kill 100 because you have committed the same offense in the Lords eyes. (we all know this)

[Neffy]

Whatever.....

I thought that maybe we could have a conservation about this case.

No need to worry, I can see that you are just playing around.

2w4u

:thumbdown:

Lighten up Good Grief you and your thumb :rolleyes:

[imc_e]

Very good answer/post

Thanks I had to sharpen my pencils, and my brain hurts.

:laugh:

[Neffy]

The way I see it is Christians are always Christians if that's the way you were brought up.
Becoming a better Christian happens everyday.
This is not the Anthony's first Rodeo....

Murder and protecting a murderer is totally not Christian. You kill one person and you might as well kill 100 because you have committed the same offense in the Lords eyes. (we all know this)

It's just like changing your nic. We'd recognize Cindy's 'tude and modus operandi whatever she trys to re-invent herself to be. :)

[Deannalynn]

Cindy claiming the new evidence of Casey recieving a call from Caylee as Pru posted. There was a private number so she's claiming that was from the Kidnapper's phone that Caylee called Casey on.
After all Casey said it was so :sneaky:

Ohhhhhhh. now I get it.
The kidnapper (allegedly):rolleyes:
It slays me that she got ONE phone call. Kidnappers usually will call several times to see what and where your head is at. What did they want. Casey was not straight forward on that issue.
In fact, she gave LE the impression that "Zanny" had a lot to do with it. Then before that it was "Zanny" working alone and did not want anything??? Just wanted to teach her a lesson...Have you heard anything of the likes of this "special" kidnapping case scenario...
Each time i do the math, it makes absolutely NO sense.
With that, Casey murdered Caylee because she was a nuisance to her.
JMO

[Neffy]

Ohhhhhhh. now I get it.
The kidnapper (allegedly):rolleyes:
It slays me that she got ONE phone call. Kidnappers usually will call several times to see what and where your head is at. What did they want. Casey was not straight forward on that issue.
In fact, she gave LE the impression that "Zanny" had a lot to do with it. Then before that it was "Zanny" working alone and did not want anything??? Just wanted to teach her a lesson...Have you heard anything of the likes of this "special" kidnapping case scenario...
Each time i do the math, it makes absolutely NO sense.
With that, Casey murdered Caylee because she was a nuisance to her.
JMO

LOL! What slays everyone is Cindy is still giving evidence that begins with CASEY SAID.........

[Deannalynn]

Remember Bala, Zanny has money!!!! I do not remember if she is considered rich, but Casey did say she had money. So, I am sure she was happy to help Casey out and take and pay for Caylee while on vacation.

Excuse me but...For someone who Casey said had Money, what was she doing living at the Sawgrass apartments. IIRC, it was not exactly a nice pretty apartment complex with swimming pools, tennis courts and an exercise room. THAT'S what one has when they have a lot of money...
Just sayin..:confused:

[imc_e]

The way I see it is Christians are always Christians if that's the way you were brought up.
Becoming a better Christian happens everyday.
This is not the Anthony's first Rodeo....

Murder and protecting a murderer is totally not Christian. You kill one person and you might as well kill 100 because you have committed the same offense in the Lords eyes. (we all know this)

I was reading back a bit and saw that I missed your post.

And I agree with you completely that murder and protecting a murderer is not what God wants, there is no good faith in that choice.

In fact I would go as far to say, that doing so, in my eyes, would make them as guilty as the murderer herself.

[Neffy]

Excuse me but...For someone who Casey said had Money, what was she doing living at the Sawgrass apartments. IIRC, it was not exactly a nice pretty apartment complex with swimming pools, tennis courts and an exercise room. THAT'S what one has when they have a lot of money...
Just sayin..:confused:

http://realestate.yahoo.com/Florida/Orlando/2859-s-conway-rd:77e47df40f09b883d99f624bc546a/camelia?type=featured

Not to shabby. To bad NO Zenaida ever lived there.

[Deannalynn]

LOL! What slays everyone is Cindy is still giving evidence that begins with CASEY SAID.........

Cindy sure makes herself look like an imbecile...
Everyone knows Casey is a pathological liar but yet Cindy keeps saying, BUT...Casey said.
Cindy needs to keep her trap shut and let not the embarrassing things continue. The lies and the deceit is so off the charts. It's been way over a year and she continues to "quote" her daughter months ago and we are to believe it and go with the lies and nonsense.
Cindy is more of a JOKE than Casey...At least Casey knows to shut the hell up.
Cindy is nothing but a JOKE!:lol:

[seeing_eye]

We know that Caylee hurt herself by falling against or on
TonE's coffee table in his apartment.
He has already said that.
If it was not TonE's it was another guys table.
I don't think any of Casey's friends that saw Caylee often
said there were any signs of abuse.
Now I am not defending a murderer but I do not believe
Caylee was physically abused in any way.

I don't think anyone should read too much into those bruises in those pics of Caylee. She may or may not have been abused (probably was in some degree), but those pics are not evidence of it. They may just be evidence of a playful, reckless child.

My youngest daughter, who's nearing 50 now, was "accident prone" as a toddler. She was constantly getting cuts and bruises no matter how closely she was watched. A neighbor once told me the only way to protect her from injury was to wrap her entire body in foam rubber! BTW, she seems to have outgrown her accident proneness.

[Deannalynn]

I don't think anyone should read too much into those bruises in those pics of Caylee. She may or may not have been abused (probably was in some degree), but those pics are not evidence of it. They may just be evidence of a playful, reckless child.

My youngest daughter, who's nearing 50 now, was "accident prone" as a toddler. She was constantly getting cuts and bruises no matter how closely she was watched. A neighbor once told me the only way to protect her from injury was to wrap her entire body in foam rubber! BTW, she seems to have outgrown her accident proneness.

Hi seeing_eye...
I have to agree with you on this issue.
First of all, they are so secretive I doubt if they would have done anything to Caylee that anyone would actually see. I don't think Caylee would have been hurt "daily" pysically.
Emotionally, hell yes. EVERYDAY!

I do (of course) know that Casey murdered Caylee and thought she would get away with it. She was so use to Cindy fixing everything, by the time Cindy got involved and came up with a plan, it was too late.
That's what I think...Casey murdered her daughter and Cindy knew she did by the time she got wind that Caylee was not with Casey.
Waaaay to late to do a cover up.
JMO

[Anakerie]

Yes and Caylee would have been four years old. I hurt for George and Cindy and even Lee. To know that Casey did this to their family. That must hurt a lot.

JMO

2w4u
I agree that what Casey has done to that family would be extremely painful. But, all the pain in the world can not excuse the lies, the coverup, the fancy footwork and the complete arrogance of the rest of the Anthony's. Cindy, George and Lee project the attitude that nothing they do is wrong and that the rest of the world IS wrong.

I can't "hurt for them". I hurt for Caylee, because she had no chance at life.

[Neffy]

I agree that what Casey has done to that family would be extremely painful. But, all the pain in the world can not excuse the lies, the coverup, the fancy footwork and the complete arrogance of the rest of the Anthony's. Cindy, George and Lee project the attitude that nothing they do is wrong and that the rest of the world IS wrong.

I can't "hurt for them". I hurt for Caylee, because she had no chance at life.

ITA! I will hurt for whatever person Casey will throw under the bus with Cindy's blessing to claim to be Zanny. Rick? Amy? Jesse? This is her only way out and not a very good one as it will still backfire but she will try.

She can't come up with one place that will prove that a Zenaida Gonzalez ever lived or existed. She will have to feign Zanny is an alias for one of these poor people whom ever crossed her path. Since it will be a lie no matter who Casey trys to throw under the bus it will never be corroborated by anyone or anything she says. But these guys will have to defend themselves just the same.

It is them I feel for.

[Deannalynn]

http://realestate.yahoo.com/Florida/Orlando/2859-s-conway-rd:77e47df40f09b883d99f624bc546a/camelia?type=featured

Not to shabby. To bad NO Zenaida ever lived there.

Okay, I had no Idea. At the time the media showed these apartments IIRC it was barely the front and they looked tacky to me.
In any event, Things look on the up...
Too bad there no such person named Zanny EXCEPT the ONE who actually filled out an application in reference to these apartments. who had nothing to do with or knew Casey or Caylee.
Casey is a really sneaky person and as far as I see it she needed an alibi. She took the information she could get from THIS Zanny and ran with it!
jmo

[Deannalynn]

ITA! I will hurt for whatever person Casey will throw under the bus with Cindy's blessing to claim to be Zanny. Rick? Amy? Jesse? This is her only way out and not a very good one as it will still backfire but she will try.

She can't come up with one place that will prove that a Zenaida Gonzalez ever lived or existed. She will have to feign Zanny is an alias for one of these poor people whom ever crossed her path. Since it will be a lie no matter who Casey trys to throw under the bus it will never be corroborated by anyone or anything she says. But these guys will have to defend themselves just the same.

It is them I feel for.

The way I see it, the only ones that need to defend themselves (to date) is Zaneida...She has M&M kicking azz for her. She will prevail, I know this.

Casey really screwed up when she decided she would pick on a Hispanic woman who has been living here for many years. Casey is stupid! I hope they can get every penny that the Anthony's make from start to finish... I hope they are nervous and anxious about this civil suit.

[Neffy]

LOL! What slays everyone is Cindy is still giving evidence that begins with CASEY SAID.........

Awwwwwwww man I didn't realize this New evidence was an old article.

My Bad I was commenting on something that happened in 2008 it would seem.

My sentiments towards Cindy remain the same however :)

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html

[imc_e]

Since Cindy was baptized on the weekend, I wonder if she repented against her sins and asked to be forgiven for this..

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/903797/video_cindy_anthony_deposition_part_7

or this..

http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cindy-anthony.jpg


http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/heres-mommy-cindy-anthony.jpg

:wink:

[Deannalynn]

From day one it puzzles me that George and Cindy Anthony have made such a big ordeal out of the disappearance of their grand daughter.
If you read other missing children they always have the mother and father or one at a time discussing their child or they are in custody.
When Casey was NOT arrested or in jail shh did nothing to start anything in respect to her daughter. It was all Cindy from day "32.":sneaky:

At best they will have the Grand parents make "a" statement....The Anthony's have completely taken over this entire case from inception to closure. (when they found the remains)
Casey has let her mother run with this and has given her complete control of the entire situation.
That in itself is scary if I was Casey.
Casey has lied thru her teeth but then again she has not said anything to her mother, father, brother or anyone else with substance, They were aLL LIES!
I wonder if she has actually consulted with Baez. Perhaps Baez has to come up with some kind of defense and let his client know where he is going with it.

Casey seems to be in her jail cell watching T.V., eating all kinds of goodies from the prison commissary and existing.
Cindy continues making excuses for her daughter but it doesn't help whatever she says.
They both (Cindy and George) have chosen to shut up for once and now we sit here wondering if this will be like this til January 2010..

This is crazy if you ask me...This is not the last we have heard of Cindy and George, that's for sure.
Even Casey told her own mother to keep her mouth shut months ago..
I know Cindy knows a lot more than we think she does, That's why she's doing everything she can to protect Casey...

[Deannalynn]

Awwwwwwww man I didn't realize this New evidence was an old article.

My Bad I was commenting on something that happened in 2008 it would seem.

My sentiments towards Cindy remain the same however :)

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html

OH Neffy Pa-Leeze... This board has been discussing things everyday that had happened (everyday) thru the news media since day one, JUne 15, 2008.
Girl, don't feel bad about that, In fact, it is good to bring these thing all out again for those who have NOT been keeping up "daily" with this Casey Anthony murder case,...

Some people have the day and others have the evening only... My self, I have a 16 year old daughter who I am very attentive with so I keep track as much as I can with all these GOOD posters and learn what has happened and what I have missed.
These people are Cool with a lot of patience.

My daughter returns to school on Thursday...I guess I have no more excuses when I repeat a question that has already been answered...:biggrinjester:

[Jester]

Good morning everyone. Wow, news of cindy and george getting baptized on Caylee's birthday is just so inappropriate. I don't fault the minister, his job is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and take them into the fold. But really, how can they pull a PR stunt like this with a good conscience?

While it's true only God knows what is in their hearts, it's going to be very interesting to observe their words, actions and behavior from this point forward.

Have they not been baptized? Was Cayley baptized? Casey? It's uncommon for anyone around here to not be baptized, but it happens. For two people to marry and neither of them be baptized seems rather rare.

What an odd thing to do ... I burst out laughing when I first saw this, but now I'm perplexed. Why did they do it? Have they changed religion, affirmed their commitment to God?

[Neffy]

OH Neffy Pa-Leeze... This board has been discussing things everyday that had happened (everyday) thru the news media since day one, JUne 15, 2008.
Girl, don't feel bad about that, In fact, it is good to bring these thing all out again for those who have NOT been keeping up "daily" with this Casey Anthony murder case,...

Some people have the day and others have the evening only... My self, I have a 16 year old daughter who I am very attentive with so I keep track as much as I can with all these GOOD posters and learn what has happened and what I have missed.
These people are Cool with a lot of patience.

My daughter returns to school on Thursday...I guess I have no more excuses when I repeat a question that has already been answered...:biggrinjester:

Don't I know it. Been here since day 1 cantcha tell HA! I had to take on another job which has really cut into my board time. Self employed but the health coverage got astronomical so I took on a job with benefits. So I have a little time here and a little time there. Kids don't go back until the 27th argh!

Amazing how Casey had money, a nanny, healthcare for her and Caylee. Well Cindy says sooooooooooo.

[Deannalynn]

Have they not been baptized? Was Cayley baptized? Casey? It's uncommon for anyone around here to not be baptized, but it happens. For two people to marry and neither of them be baptized seems rather rare.

What an odd thing to do ... I burst out laughing when I first saw this, but now I'm perplexed. Why did they do it? Have they changed religion, affirmed their commitment to God?

Hi Jester...
I really think it was a publicity stunt that obviously went wrong as far as I can understand. They have been lying from day one, (over a year ago) and now they want the media to let everyone know they were RE=baptized...
That is totally fake on there part in a religious way or they will come out with the truth when it comes time to testify in front of Judge Strickland and the whole country...
JMHO...

I do believe that when they do testify they won't remember EVERYTHING that they said in these depositions. Don't matter how long you studied lies, you will always forget them lies when it's time to question, again.
Hopefully, these Anthony's will get what they deserve, Jail time when this is all said and done!
Yep, JMO...

[Jester]

Pictures of Injury Marks on Caylee Anthony Tell a Story


http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/08/pictures-of-caylee/

Thanks for the link. Those look like rather dangerous injuries, in particular because they are so close to her eye. I've seen odd injuries on children when they're learning to walk and crash into something sharp, but that is usually a freak accident from slipping on something like ice. I don't think there's much ice in Florida.

[Jester]

The way I see it is Christians are always Christians if that's the way you were brought up.
Becoming a better Christian happens everyday.
This is not the Anthony's first Rodeo....

Murder and protecting a murderer is totally not Christian. You kill one person and you might as well kill 100 because you have committed the same offense in the Lords eyes. (we all know this)

Maybe they're being baptized so they can practice forgiveness, and forgive Casey for her sins? Maybe now they can show compassion and visit their daughter in jail without the fear of saying something that will be used against one of them? Maybe they need to place their lives and futures in the hands of God, trust that everything will be as it should, give their lives to fate?

[Jester]

Hi Jester...
I really think it was a publicity stunt that obviously went wrong as far as I can understand. They have been lying from day one, (over a year ago) and now they want the media to let everyone know they were RE=baptized...
That is totally fake on there part in a religious way or they will come out with the truth when it comes time to testify in front of Judge Strickland and the whole country...
JMHO...

I do believe that when they do testify they won't remember EVERYTHING that they said in these depositions. Don't matter how long you studied lies, you will always forget them lies when it's time to question, again.
Hopefully, these Anthony's will get what they deserve, Jail time when this is all said and done!
Yep, JMO...
Religion, like funerals, were always, in my opinion, private affairs. This family seems to want to make everything public - which automatically makes me question the sincerity.

[crimeq]

Bella Vita Baby.......

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/081109_Casey_Anthony_tattoo

Who's the celebrity -- female movie person -- who has the Bella Vita tattoo in the small of her back? There was some speculation that Casey got the idea of the Bella Vita tat from that, coupled with Tony being Italian and Casey pandering to that.

Anyone remember who that female movie persona is, with the Bella Vita tat?

I wonder if the tats are at all similar in appearance.

[mrs_nhl]

Who's the celebrity -- female movie person -- who has the Bella Vita tattoo in the small of her back? There was some speculation that Casey got the idea of the Bella Vita tat from that, coupled with Tony being Italian and Casey pandering to that.

Anyone remember who that female movie persona is, with the Bella Vita tat?

I wonder if the tats are at all similar in appearance.

I just did a *quick* Google search and saw that Lindsay Lohan has that tattoo.

[cherish]

Who's the celebrity -- female movie person -- who has the Bella Vita tattoo in the small of her back? There was some speculation that Casey got the idea of the Bella Vita tat from that, coupled with Tony being Italian and Casey pandering to that.

Anyone remember who that female movie persona is, with the Bella Vita tat?

I wonder if the tats are at all similar in appearance.

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-lohan2.htm

[crimeq]

Have they not been baptized? Was Cayley baptized? Casey? It's uncommon for anyone around here to not be baptized, but it happens. For two people to marry and neither of them be baptized seems rather rare.

What an odd thing to do ... I burst out laughing when I first saw this, but now I'm perplexed. Why did they do it? Have they changed religion, affirmed their commitment to God?

PR foremost, I think, but I also wonder if they think they can take Caylee's birthday and give themselves a new "life in god" since that's where they think Caylee may be now, that in some way they think they are joining her, that they too have a "birthday" on her birthday.

Rambling thought ... I have no good feelings about the Ants and know everything they do is to benefit them.

[crimeq]

I just did a *quick* Google search and saw that Lindsay Lohan has that tattoo.

Does it look the same, the script?

eta - I see that it doesn't look the same.

[Jester]

PR foremost, I think, but I also wonder if they think they can take Caylee's birthday and give themselves a new "life in god" since that's where they think Caylee may be now, that in some way they think they are joining her, that they too have a "birthday" on her birthday.

Rambling thought ... I have no good feelings about the Ants and know everything they do is to benefit them.

This may be some weird idea I have about "resting in peace", but I think it's odd to divide up Cayley's ashes and wear them as jewelry. Somehow, I don't think that's what the authors of the the Bible meant with "dust to dust, ashes to ashes". Anyone know what religion or set of beliefs they were baptized into? Maybe Cayley's ashes can be put back together, and allowed to rest in peace. Like I said, probably some weird idea I have ... but probably not inconsistent with some religious schools of thought.

[Deannalynn]

This may be some weird idea I have about "resting in peace", but I think it's odd to divide up Cayley's ashes and wear them as jewelry. Somehow, I don't think that's what the authors of the the Bible meant with "dust to dust, ashes to ashes". Anyone know what religion or set of beliefs they were baptized into? Maybe Cayley's ashes can be put back together, and allowed to rest in peace. Like I said, probably some weird idea I have ... but probably not inconsistent with some religious schools of thought.

The moment they decided they would put Caylee's ashes into jewelry, they must have known that was non-Christian and most of all no religion (That I have heard of) has NEVER done something like this. The Anthony's are not that lame.
Regardless if they were baptized, re baptized or it was the first time for them,everyone (I believe) would rethink this Asinine Idea. That was not Christian nor was it a sound religious gesture. They did this for publicity, too...
The problem with the ashes is No one thought it was a good Idea, nor did they find it fascinating.. At best, from what I have read, the Anthony's are not too intelligent...
Doing what they decided to do was very sacreligious.
JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

Religion, like funerals, were always, in my opinion, private affairs. This family seems to want to make everything public - which automatically makes me question the sincerity.

maybe they'll renew their wedding vows next :huh:

[Deannalynn]

maybe they'll renew their wedding vows next :huh:

When pigs fly..:lol:

George wouldn't actually take them vows again and remarry That Cindy if someone paid him...He probably regrets the day he met that crazy lady...:tonguewag:
JMHO...

[JadedPoet]

...snip...

I do believe that when they do testify they won't remember EVERYTHING that they said in these depositions. Don't matter how long you studied lies, you will always forget them lies when it's time to question, again.
Hopefully, these Anthony's will get what they deserve, Jail time when this is all said and done!
Yep, JMO...

That makes the wait for Casey's trial so much easier for me to endure. Just think how many, many lies can be told between now and then. Not to mention, with distance from those lies no doubt comes forgetting what was said and getting all the lies tied up in knots. You'd think they'd want the trial to start quickly, while they still somewhat remember the tale they've been weaving.

[Jester]

The moment they decided they would put Caylee's ashes into jewelry, they must have known that was non-Christian and most of all no religion (That I have heard of) has NEVER done something like this. The Anthony's are not that lame.
Regardless if they were baptized, re baptized or it was the first time for them,everyone (I believe) would rethink this Asinine Idea. That was not Christian nor was it a sound religious gesture. They did this for publicity, too...
The problem with the ashes is No one thought it was a good Idea, nor did they find it fascinating.. At best, from what I have read, the Anthony's are not too intelligent...
Doing what they decided to do was very sacrilegious.
JMO

I have to agree with you. I've studied several religions, East and West, and dividing up the ashes of a deceased person and wearing them as some form of decoration is probably the oddest thing I've ever heard ... without doubt, and not agreeable with any existing, traditional religion.

Perhaps, as a gesture towards their new religious beliefs, they could honor and re-unite Cayley, put her ashes back together and stop using her as decoration.

[Jester]

maybe they'll renew their wedding vows next :huh:
What special day would they choose for that ... I wonder.

[JadedPoet]

What special day would they choose for that ... I wonder.

Halloween? :w00t:

[Jester]

That makes the wait for Casey's trial so much easier for me to endure. Just think how many, many lies can be told between now and then. Not to mention, with distance from those lies no doubt comes forgetting what was said and getting all the lies tied up in knots. You'd think they'd want the trial to start quickly, while they still somewhat remember the tale they've been weaving.

Cindy could be diligently studying her binder every evening so she knows when to spin several stories, when to stick to one. She will want a transcript of her recent deposition ... just to keep her story straight at trial ... no question.

Has that been released by any chance? ... haven't had time to read each day. I understood that as soon as transcripts were requested, they were fair game for media.

[Jester]

Halloween? :w00t:

Good one. Definitely not St Valentine's Day

Maybe St Patrick's Day ... to go along with those big stories about shamrocks. Wasn't it shamrocks that someone said Cayley liked?

[Deannalynn]

Halloween? :w00t:

:laugh:
Good morning Jaded...
This is good..

No one knows Cindy better than George.. I think George is actually scared of Cindy. I have read several posts that indicate Cindy is very intimidating. Not just the outside world but more so with her family.
The night of June 15th Cindy and Casey got in to a heated argument and Cindy tried to choke Casey. I am sure (No proof) that Caylee was right there between the both of them...
Cindy could care less and Casey has such a garbage mouth and uses it on her own mother.
George appears to stay quiet and never gets in the middle of it. George probably stayed clear of the both of them on the night in question. This is why George has been adamant about the last time he seen Caylee. They do not want to get into the reasons why they had a huge fight.
I would suggest to George he better study up with his binder full of statements, comments and responses waaaay before this trial gets on it's way...
Cindy will screw up on the stand anyway because she thinks she knows it all. That is a day I will not miss no matter what I have to do.:wink:

[LilGirl]

They are ALL a bunch of Archie Bunkers! ;)

Sorry I didn't respond to his earlier. I was on the "terlet".:tonguewag:

[LilGirl]

We know that Caylee hurt herself by falling against or on
TonE's coffee table in his apartment.
He has already said that.
If it was not TonE's it was another guys table.
I don't think any of Casey's friends that saw Caylee often
said there were any signs of abuse.
Now I am not defending a murderer but I do not believe
Caylee was physically abused in any way.

my bolding:

Until the day she was murdered, head wrapped in duct tape and triple bagged....:mad:

[LilGirl]

IMO Someone who can wrap duct tape around the mouth of their child, place her body in their trunk and then go rent movies, watch them, then crawl into bed with her new bf, is capable of anything. Also the videos of Caylee when she has a camera on her and is being ignored are weird and show a meaness to her. A form of abuse. I believe
Casey is capable of anything and when alone with Caylee could very well have abused her.

Amys interview with LE she states that Casey was overly strict with Caylee.

djmsmom said it better than me!:smile:

[desmom]

Today's Headline:

Anthony's Italian Tattoo To Be Photographed
http://www.wesh.com/news/20357984/detail.html

Headlines from one year ago:

George Anthony Says Caylee Has Been Kidnapped
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/12/another_visit_cancelled.html

Missing Girl's Family Threatened Every Day; Mom Cancels Visits
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17166239/detail.html

Psychic Joins Search For Caylee Anthony, Doesn't Believe She's Alive
http://www.wftv.com/news/17166127/detail.html

Greta OTR, Caylee Athony, 8/12,
part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfmwBm-Rv_g
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdrLyGUcwU
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OaTDob7JQ

NANCY GRACE Aired August 12, 2008
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/12/ng.01.html

[Sun]

Good morning everyone!

What would you think that procedure would be for photographing Casey's tattoo? Would she be taken to medical, to have them taken? Or do you suppose that it would be done in a "meeting room" perhaps one that is normally used for her to meet with her attorneys?

I wonder if Casey may have attempted to de-face the tattoo, or destroy it in some way.

Would Casey be angry because she feels this invades her privacy, or would she be flattered?

[Julie Dupree]

Good morning everyone!

What would you think that procedure would be for photographing Casey's tattoo? Would she be taken to medical, to have them taken? Or do you suppose that it would be done in a "meeting room" perhaps one that is normally used for her to meet with her attorneys?

I wonder if Casey may have attempted to de-face the tattoo, or destroy it in some way.

Would Casey be angry because she feels this invades her privacy, or would she be flattered?

Good Morning Sun

Thank you Desmom for posting the links for us. You have no idea how helpful you are to all of us by doing this for us each morning.

I think she will probably be taken to the clinic since she will have to "partially disrobe". (I think she will be smiling big time during this procedure.)

I think she just wants everyone to let her get on with her life and stop this useless bs...after all, "that child" is dead and nothing will bring her back and all this is a waste, huge waste.

[cassidy]

Good morning everyone!

What would you think that procedure would be for photographing Casey's tattoo? Would she be taken to medical, to have them taken? Or do you suppose that it would be done in a "meeting room" perhaps one that is normally used for her to meet with her attorneys?

I wonder if Casey may have attempted to de-face the tattoo, or destroy it in some way.

Would Casey be angry because she feels this invades her privacy, or would she be flattered?

Where is the tattoo located on her body?

[Sun]

Where is the tattoo located on her body?

I believe on her shoulder/back.

[cassidy]

I believe on her shoulder/back.

Thatks, it shouldn't be too hard to photo then.

[BJames]

Good morning to all :smile:

I finally got around to reading the texts between Casey and Amy, and I found it quite interesting.
To me it appears that Casey was somewhat 'grooming' Amy, all of the flattery and 'love you' and sweetheart...Yet behind Amy's back she was lying and stealing the whole time, two faced to say the least.
While reading those messages I honestly felt sorry for Amy, she is just a young trusting girl...sadly I doubt that she will ever be so naive and innocent again.
What a disheartening situation to experience, not just for her but for all of them that Casey involved in her warped world....they believed her because to them they had no reason not to...until it was too late.
Amy probably thought she had found a lifetime 'friend' just as it seems TonE thought that he had finally found a girl he had soooo much in common with.
So much betrayal and in the end a baby lost her life...the consequences radiate out so far from the source...tho I don't believe that it is even close to being 'finished' yet. More folks are going to get stung by association before this is resolved at the trial level, lives will unravel...loyalty questioned.
And the one person who has had control over all of this is sitting there eating snacks and reading..
Once again I am struck that 'fair' is a weather condition...and not a status in life situations.

Just my opinion of course...

[margaritaville]

Good morning to all :smile:

I finally got around to reading the texts between Casey and Amy, and I found it quite interesting.
To me it appears that Casey was somewhat 'grooming' Amy, all of the flattery and 'love you' and sweetheart...Yet behind Amy's back she was lying and stealing the whole time, two faced to say the least.
While reading those messages I honestly felt sorry for Amy, she is just a young trusting girl...sadly I doubt that she will ever be so naive and innocent again.
What a disheartening situation to experience, not just for her but for all of them that Casey involved in her warped world....they believed her because to them they had no reason not to...until it was too late.
Amy probably thought she had found a lifetime 'friend' just as it seems TonE thought that he had finally found a girl he had soooo much in common with.
So much betrayal and in the end a baby lost her life...the consequences radiate out so far from the source...tho I don't believe that it is even close to being 'finished' yet. More folks are going to get stung by association before this is resolved at the trial level, lives will unravel...loyalty questioned.
And the one person who has had control over all of this is sitting there eating snacks and reading..
Once again I am struck that 'fair' is a weather condition...and not a status in life situations.

Just my opinion of course...

I love your post!!
This is all soooooooooooo true.....Along with feeling sorry for Amy I feel for TonE also.... Listening to the taped conversation he had with his brother sent chills up my arms.....He mentioned the media craze and how stressed out he is.....I could almost feel his pain when he asked him not to tell his mom and Dad because he didn't want them to "worry" :crying:......And when asked if he thought Caylee was dead and he said he didn't know but had never been lied to so much in his whole life... Will tonE ever trust another woman?? I mean, this guy is young and is trying to get through college..I feel sorry for all the kids Casey pulled into her circle of hate.....so so so sad!
And I can not think of a sentence that is worthy of all that Casey has done......Well maybe one, have done to her exactly what she did to Caylee...:sneaky:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20318173/detail.html

moo

[Pruddennce]

I love your post!!
This is all soooooooooooo true.....Along with feeling sorry for Amy I feel for TonE also.... Listening to the taped conversation he had with his brother sent chills up my arms.....He mentioned the media craze and how stressed out he is.....I could almost feel his pain when he asked him not to tell his mom and Dad because he didn't want them to "worry" :crying:......And when asked if he thought Caylee was dead and he said he didn't know but had never been lied to so much in his whole life... Will tonE ever trust another woman?? I mean, this guy is young and is trying to get through college..I feel sorry for all the kids Casey pulled into her circle of hate.....so so so sad!
And I can not think of a sentence that is worthy of all that Casey has done......Well maybe one, have done to her exactly what she did to Caylee...:sneaky:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20318173/detail.html

moo

one word to describe her: EVIL.

and IMO, TL was not 'crazy in love' with her or planning a future with her. He was having 'fun'. In fact, he was planning on moving out of that apt along with another roommate and that plan DIDNT INCLUDE HER. To portray herself as independent and 'not caring' she wasnt invited to co-habitate, she began telling lies about her plans to share an apt in the "Valencia college area' with her BEST FRIEND who also has a child. and they would have a 'live-in nanny'........that is the conversation she had with Will Waters. Casey, the 'now' girl, who had the means to do it all.

another phantom friend. to go along with the phantom apt and nanny.

all the while, telling Amy she was getting her parents house. She did tell Amy various stories about it, the latest being her mother backed out, but still strung her along with various timeframes......


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[Bala]

Does anyone know what excuse Cindy is planning on telling about the stench in the back of the car. She can't stick with the pizza maggot story since she must now realize that Casey told Amy about the stench way back when.

[Postergeist]

Actually, when speaking to strangers, or even acquaintances, it is very common to use descriptive phrases instead of a person's name.

< snipped>

"That little girl" defies description, as everybody knows who she is. In this case, "Caylee" is more appropriate. However, George probably considers the public as strangers, and by habit lapses into using descriptors rather than her name. It drives me nuts, but remember that we know George, Cindy, Casey, Lee, et al, much better than they know us.


ty teach! I brought ya an apple this mornin'! :smile:

I wanted to comment on this part about "public as strangers"- Spots, he said this when speaking to LE in the video tapes, and also speaking to his own daughter during the jail visits of "that little girl" etc.

So I don't think it's a comfort level thing per say- it's just another odd speech/phrasing habit with those people esp. between George and Casey when discussing Caylee.

BTW- I'm sure it's been discussed before- but do we really know if Caylee had much interaction (if any) with her other set of great grands-George's parents who also live in Florida?

[Postergeist]

I'm not one to give any grammar lessons, I make errors all the time lol. However, this is one of the videos that really showed me that Caylee was not coming home alive and that Casey knew it. When Cindy says (towards the beginning), "Someone told us Caylee was dead today...." Casey's face drops like she was thinking, "what? oh no.." Then, Cindy continues on to say that the person said something about Caylee drowned in the pool and Casey relaxes (Because she knew that's not what happened). As soon as I watched that I thought "that &!+@h".

Great observation! Did you also notice the sound and level of her voice when Cindy tells her that Caylee will be featured on People Mag?

This was quite apparent to me after listening the 2nd or 3rd time-

her soft response was something like "ohhhh, that's good"

imo- it's NOT a sigh of "relief"- but it is more of "great <mutter> just great <mutter> this is just getting too much attention for my liking here"

[101Spots]

ty teach! I brought ya an apple this mornin'! :smile:

I wanted to comment on this part about "public as strangers"- Spots, he said this when speaking to LE in the video tapes, and also speaking to his own daughter during the jail visits of "that little girl" etc.

So I don't think it's a comfort level thing per say- it's just another odd speech/phrasing habit with those people esp. between George and Casey when discussing Caylee.

BTW- I'm sure it's been discussed before- but do we really know if Caylee had much interaction (if any) with her other set of great grands-George's parents who also live in Florida?

I can excuse it when he was speaking to LE, but not when he was speaking to Casey. Agreed, they have some odd speech patterns.

My father always referred to me as "the daughter," and even addressed me as such: "Hello, Daughter" rather than "Hello, [Name]." He was the definition of normal and good. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[Postergeist]

I was baptized as a baby. When I became an adult, I got baptized because the first time it was done to me and I had no awareness of the meaning of it. The second time I was baptized, it was an adult when I really wanted to follow the Bible and do what Jesus commanded His followers to do. This was done in a nondenominational church.

I'm telling you this to say that it is common practise in many churches (not just Baptist churches) for an adult to be "re-baptized" if he makes a commitment as an adult to become a Christian.

As msgatorslayer said earlier, it is not our business to judge anyone to know if they are sincere in their faith. BUT when someone makes a commitment to the Lord as an adult, there will be accompanying fruit that will follow this decision.

And as I said earlier, we will either see the Anthonys tell the truth for the first time since this "conversion", or we won't. If we don't, it means that they were doing this for some kind of glory for themselves rather than for God.

Hi Annie Pie! Thanks for your response on this and telling your experience with it. Did the church family actually tho call this adult baptism of yours a "re-baptism" tho? Such as "Presenting Annie Pie for Her Re-Baptism into the faith of following Christ".

I'm aware of having a Reaffirmation of Faith (and I spent some time with my dad yesterday and asked him- but do people get "re-baptized" for that and he said no.) I did learn something tho- a particular So. Baptist Church would NOT except a transfer of faith nor recognize a full immersion baptism from a family member that wanted to join because she had been divorced. For her to be able to join- they told her she had to be "re-baptized" apparently because she had the "sin of divorce".

*thud* I told my dad- it's a wonder there are churches with very many members then! :laugh:

[margaritaville]

I was baptized as a baby. When I became an adult, I got baptized because the first time it was done to me and I had no awareness of the meaning of it. The second time I was baptized, it was an adult when I really wanted to follow the Bible and do what Jesus commanded His followers to do. This was done in a nondenominational church.

I'm telling you this to say that it is common practise in many churches (not just Baptist churches) for an adult to be "re-baptized" if he makes a commitment as an adult to become a Christian.

As msgatorslayer said earlier, it is not our business to judge anyone to know if they are sincere in their faith. BUT when someone makes a commitment to the Lord as an adult, there will be accompanying fruit that will follow this decision.

And as I said earlier, we will either see the Anthonys tell the truth for the first time since this "conversion", or we won't. If we don't, it means that they were doing this for some kind of glory for themselves rather than for God.


I have no problem they wanted to be re-baptised.. Maybe it makes them feel as though the past year has been forgiven and they can now move on......
What I do have a severe problem with is the fact that they had to do this on CAYLEE'S BIRTHDAY!!!!
Why can't Caylee have that one day all to herself?????
Why do the Anthony's have to take that away from her as well????:cursing::cursing::cursing:
moo

[marshmallow]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-bart/ditto-dr-phil-that-is-so_b_128489.html


that's an old link from 9/23/08 but I was looking for Michelle Bart writig to compare against a certain blog I recently read and stumbled upon this link. It's the comments that interested me. A little over a year ago and the questiond we have were the questions people had then. Not a new subject, just an interesting read.

[Postergeist]

This may be some weird idea I have about "resting in peace", but I think it's odd to divide up Cayley's ashes and wear them as jewelry. Somehow, I don't think that's what the authors of the the Bible meant with "dust to dust, ashes to ashes". Anyone know what religion or set of beliefs they were baptized into? Maybe Cayley's ashes can be put back together, and allowed to rest in peace. Like I said, probably some weird idea I have ... but probably not inconsistent with some religious schools of thought.

Hi Jester- what many may know but some don't is that cremation has it's roots in paganism.

for those interested- here's a link to why it was forbidden by this denomination at one point-

http://www.cremationurns.net/Catholic-Cremation-information.php

a bit on the early Judeo/Christians and how they were buried

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/cremation-3.htm

Jewish Law on that-

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/510874/jewish/Why-does-Jewish-law-forbid-cremation.htm

not allowed for Muslims

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1144161668480

However, we have several posting members that have had their loved ones cremains divvied up, scattered and worn and don't find what the A's did as odd at all.

With the Anthonys tho, this seems to be a family that are not all like-minded in the regards of what is to be done with their earthly body as far as the statement read by Baez that he said Casey wrote.

imo

That was apparently one discussion the family didn't have before Caylee's remains were found or while her little bones sat in a box in cold storage for what- almost 3 months or so.

[Postergeist]

My thumb, now you leave my thumb out of this. It is innocent.

:thumbsup:

2w4u

LOL- glad to know your "George"digit is innocent- what say you tho on the pointer finger?

[happygert]

What special day would they choose for that ... I wonder.

Dec 11.......

[Postergeist]

Good morning everyone!

What would you think that procedure would be for photographing Casey's tattoo? Would she be taken to medical, to have them taken? Or do you suppose that it would be done in a "meeting room" perhaps one that is normally used for her to meet with her attorneys?

I wonder if Casey may have attempted to de-face the tattoo, or destroy it in some way.

Would Casey be angry because she feels this invades her privacy, or would she be flattered?

good mornin' Sun-

not sure on the first part, doubtful on the second part-


but on the last part- Come On! Are You Kidding Me?! As many photos as this chick put up all over the web of herself- invasion of privacy?

No way! She'll be flattered, esp. if men are present during the photo session.

imo

[Bala]

I'd go with April 1 April fools day.

[Postergeist]

I can excuse it when he was speaking to LE, but not when he was speaking to Casey. Agreed, they have some odd speech patterns.

My father always referred to me as "the daughter," and even addressed me as such: "Hello, Daughter" rather than "Hello, [Name]." He was the definition of normal and good. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Hey ya Spots- thanks for your life experience input on this- it's always good to hear input from those who we know aren't wearing an ankle monitor (you aren't are you? lol)

Can I ask you- were you the only child- did he address others in the family as 'hello wife' 'hello son' and not use first names?



and darn it- I've been back thru this thread because I swear I read a comment about someone saying about Cindy and her "Casey said" and can't find it! grrr- maybe I read it on a comment from one of the links posted.

But since some are commenting on Casey's texts to Amy and Tony-
does anyone think that G & C have bothered to read thru these as well?

If they have- then I'd think they'd have to wonder how Casey- who complained about the looong hours and busy "work" schedule she had to do- apparently seemed to have such an easy peasy job to be able to

text for that many darn hours in a day while still working and taking care of a active 2 yr old!

[Postergeist]

Does anyone know what excuse Cindy is planning on telling about the stench in the back of the car. She can't stick with the pizza maggot story since she must now realize that Casey told Amy about the stench way back when.

GM Bala- I'll chime in and go with-

she'll explain it was the dead squirrels that her daughter and George had run over/plus had crawled up and died and that her daughter had planned to give the squirrels a burial and had placed them in the trunk with other household garbage.

Eventually Casey did get around to burying them - thus no forensics left of the squirrel remains but just didn't have the time to also dispose of the house garbage before her car ran out of gas and then the devastating news of her daughter being kidnapped, the refuse the car just took back seat to the more pressing manners at hand of finding her daughter!


imo

[margaritaville]

Hey ya Spots- thanks for your life experience input on this- it's always good to hear input from those who we know aren't wearing an ankle monitor (you aren't are you? lol)

Can I ask you- were you the only child- did he address others in the family as 'hello wife' 'hello son' and not use first names?



and darn it- I've been back thru this thread because I swear I read a comment about someone saying about Cindy and her "Casey said" and can't find it! grrr- maybe I read it on a comment from one of the links posted.

But since some are commenting on Casey's texts to Amy and Tony-
does anyone think that G & C have bothered to read thru these as well?

If they have- then I'd think they'd have to wonder how Casey- who complained about the looong hours and busy "work" schedule she had to do- apparently seemed to have such an easy peasy job to be able to

text for that many darn hours in a day while still working and taking care of a active 2 yr old!



But remember Cindy said that Casey is "Mother of the year" so I am sure that juggling a hectic work schedule with raising a toddler would be nothing for her... easy peasy as you said!!

MOO

[martha]

Good moring everyone, I sure hope everyone has a nice day today. I will be in and out to read your posts. I am always hoping and praying we will get something good for CAYLEE. Did g and c and lee do anything for CAYLEE on her birthday? I know I am way behind. I know what I would have done on her birthday sit and cry all day. Wonder what casey did. Just to think about her birthday is so very sad.jmho.

[Postergeist]

<snipped>

Why can't Caylee have that one day all to herself?????
Why do the Anthony's have to take that away from her as well????:cursing::cursing::cursing:
moo

Thinking back to Caylee's last birthday at home- wasn't it said that Cindy took over and opened or helped open Caylee's presents for her?

See, that'd be a thing I'd think you'd let the little one try to do on her own. Why commandeer that?

I think margaritaville- it's because that is just what Cindy does- with everything. "Here let me help you" so it can become about me too

imo

[Postergeist]

[/B]



But remember Cindy said that Casey is "Mother of the year" so I am sure that juggling a hectic work schedule with raising a toddler would be nothing for her... easy peasy as you said!!

MOO

oh that's right M- well, will she proudly nominated her kid as Texter of the Year and Man Juggler of the Year too?!

She sure squeezed in a whole buncha :w00t: in her 24 hours a day all the while managing to bring sexy back.

[martha]

I have no problem they wanted to be re-baptised.. Maybe it makes them feel as though the past year has been forgiven and they can now move on......
What I do have a severe problem with is the fact that they had to do this on CAYLEE'S BIRTHDAY!!!!
Why can't Caylee have that one day all to herself?????
Why do the Anthony's have to take that away from her as well????:cursing::cursing mooI am taking from what you posted that c and g got rebaptised on CAYLEE;S birthday what is wrong with these people. It is ok for them to do this but you would think they would be in such a bad frame of mind that they would not want to do that since in my mind I would be hurting so very bad I would just want to be at home by my self and cry and think of my baby and the year I had missed with her.The hurt would be so bad I would not want to do anything.I really think that I would not be able to do anything except think about CAYLEE. ita with you on this.jmho:wub:

[Bala]

GM Bala- I'll chime in and go with-

she'll explain it was the dead squirrels that her daughter and George had run over/plus had crawled up and died and that her daughter had planned to give the squirrels a burial and had placed them in the trunk with other household garbage.

Eventually Casey did get around to burying them - thus no forensics left of the squirrel remains but just didn't have the time to also dispose of the house garbage before her car ran out of gas and then the devastating news of her daughter being kidnapped, the refuse the car just took back seat to the more pressing manners at hand of finding her daughter!


imo
But even the dead squirrel won't work because the stench was coming from the trunk not underneath the car.

[Sun]

good mornin' Sun-

not sure on the first part, doubtful on the second part-


but on the last part- Come On! Are You Kidding Me?! As many photos as this chick put up all over the web of herself- invasion of privacy?

No way! She'll be flattered, esp. if men are present during the photo session.

imo

I don't know. When listening to the State and Baez discuss this topic during the July 7 conference with the Judge, it seems to me that Baez was not cooperating with getting the photos taken.

I have a quetion for the legal experts here. If the State files a Motion (such as the one in regards to the tattoo), is Casey automatically notified of it (or must she depend on her attorney to notify her?)

[cassidy]

[/B]



But remember Cindy said that Casey is "Mother of the year" so I am sure that juggling a hectic work schedule with raising a toddler would be nothing for her... easy peasy as you said!!

MOO



Cindy said something to the effect that when we found out what Casey is doing, we (the public) will want to nominate her as Mother Of The Year. Still waiting Cindy...what is it that she did??? come on Cindy, spit it out!

[cassidy]

But even the dead squirrel won't work because the stench was coming from the trunk not underneath the car. Let's not forget that the dead squirrel then climbed into the trunk where it remained unnoticed until it bagan to stink and then it (the dead squirrel) climbedd back out so as not to be detected. :biggrinjester:

[crimeq]

What special day would they choose for that ... I wonder.

April Fools Day!

Seriously, I knew a guy who married his 3rd wife on April Fools Day. Funny, that marriage didn't "take" for him either.

[cassidy]

April Fools Day!

Seriously, I knew a guy who married his 3rd wife on April Fools Day. Funny, that marriage didn't "take" for him either.



LOL perfect choice.

[101Spots]

Hey ya Spots- thanks for your life experience input on this- it's always good to hear input from those who we know aren't wearing an ankle monitor (you aren't are you? lol)

Can I ask you- were you the only child- did he address others in the family as 'hello wife' 'hello son' and not use first names?

<respectfully snipped>



A. No, I'm not wearing a ~visible~ ankle bracelet, although it feels like it some times. :biggrin:

B. He spoke of my ex-sibling as "the son" but addressed him by name. Mom was "the wife" or "Mom," or occasionally "Hey, Maw."

C. His aunt was always called "Uncle [Name]" and he tended to tell stories starting with "When I was a little girl....." Small children would *delight* in correcting him, which is where I think it all started, but it carried on his entire life.


<sigh> Miss you, Pop. :crying:

[crimeq]

Hi Annie Pie! Thanks for your response on this and telling your experience with it. Did the church family actually tho call this adult baptism of yours a "re-baptism" tho? Such as "Presenting Annie Pie for Her Re-Baptism into the faith of following Christ".

I'm aware of having a Reaffirmation of Faith (and I spent some time with my dad yesterday and asked him- but do people get "re-baptized" for that and he said no.) I did learn something tho- a particular So. Baptist Church would NOT except a transfer of faith nor recognize a full immersion baptism from a family member that wanted to join because she had been divorced. For her to be able to join- they told her she had to be "re-baptized" apparently because she had the "sin of divorce".

*thud* I told my dad- it's a wonder there are churches with very many members then! :laugh:

The American Baptist Convention and the Southern Baptist Convention don't accept each others' baptisms; people transferring from one convention church need to be re-baptized in the new church. Also I'm sure the baptists don't accept immersion baptisms performed in other religions such as Church of Christ, Pentecostal, and other groups that require baptism by immersion.

I had quite a roller coaster ride of fundamentalist churches in my childhood and early teens. I've been baptized by immersion five times.

This baptism thing confuses me, because it seems to fly in the face of the "once saved, always saved" doctrine of fundamentalist religions.

[crimeq]

Hi Jester- what many may know but some don't is that cremation has it's roots in paganism.

for those interested- here's a link to why it was forbidden by this denomination at one point-

http://www.cremationurns.net/Catholic-Cremation-information.php

a bit on the early Judeo/Christians and how they were buried

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/cremation-3.htm

Jewish Law on that-

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/510874/jewish/Why-does-Jewish-law-forbid-cremation.htm

not allowed for Muslims

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1144161668480

However, we have several posting members that have had their loved ones cremains divvied up, scattered and worn and don't find what the A's did as odd at all.

With the Anthonys tho, this seems to be a family that are not all like-minded in the regards of what is to be done with their earthly body as far as the statement read by Baez that he said Casey wrote.

imo

That was apparently one discussion the family didn't have before Caylee's remains were found or while her little bones sat in a box in cold storage for what- almost 3 months or so.

I don't find the cremains jewelry odd. I can see it as "comforting" to have a loved one near you, in physical proximity as well as spirit.

Not quite the same thing -- but I've had both my Siamese cats cremated. I checked into a company that makes gemstones from ashes because I thought it would be beautiful to have a ring made from blue sapphires to match their blue eyes, created from their ashes. Too expensive though.

[crimeq]

I'd go with April 1 April fools day.

LOL, I posted this too! Great minds, and all that! ;-)

[Lavinia]

Halloween? :w00t:

April Fool's Day?

[Lavinia]

April Fools Day!

Seriously, I knew a guy who married his 3rd wife on April Fools Day. Funny, that marriage didn't "take" for him either.

Oops. I just posted the same thing, lol. :blushing: GMTA!

[sammy62]

the way they address each other is disturbing to me. But the worst is when George says to Casey "Hello Gorgeous" Hello Beautiful". If my husband addressed my daughter as such....there would be some big explaining to do....and a visit to a shrink.

Especially since he doesn't address me that way. lol

[Postergeist]

But even the dead squirrel won't work because the stench was coming from the trunk not underneath the car.

Bala- go put your nose up to the chalkboard! humffphf!

That was explained silly- I said she'll say she recovered them and had placed them in her trunk- that explains the smell!

Later she removed them from the trunk for the burial.

that's one demerit.

[Barbara fl.]

Hi Jester- what many may know but some don't is that cremation has it's roots in paganism.

for those interested- here's a link to why it was forbidden by this denomination at one point-

http://www.cremationurns.net/Catholic-Cremation-information.php

a bit on the early Judeo/Christians and how they were buried

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/cremation-3.htm

Jewish Law on that-

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/510874/jewish/Why-does-Jewish-law-forbid-cremation.htm

not allowed for Muslims

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1144161668480

However, we have several posting members that have had their loved ones cremains divvied up, scattered and worn and don't find what the A's did as odd at all.

With the Anthonys tho, this seems to be a family that are not all like-minded in the regards of what is to be done with their earthly body as far as the statement read by Baez that he said Casey wrote.

imo

That was apparently one discussion the family didn't have before Caylee's remains were found or while her little bones sat in a box in cold storage for what- almost 3 months or so.

I agree with you, one time it wasn't accepted by the church, don't know if it is or not at the moment....But I believe that it is done in these days because of the cost of funerals and burial plots....some people just don't have that kind of money....My brother passed away and I was his only family (he never married)....I had him cremated because I did not have a plot for him, I had to travel 4 times to NY from Florida to discard his belongings...each trip was expensive...there was no way that I could have had him buried so I had him cremated for 2400.00 dollars and brought his ashes back home with me...the urn was an additional 400.00....

I have instructed my children to do the same with me....I can not see spending so much on a plot where I will just be in the dirt anyway...and eventually will turn to dust....

Some people say that if you are cremated you will not come back....well I'm not too sure that I want to come back....and I sure don't want to be keeping worms company.....but this is just my opinion, I'm sure there are many opinions on this subject....

[AnniePie]

Hi Annie Pie! Thanks for your response on this and telling your experience with it. Did the church family actually tho call this adult baptism of yours a "re-baptism" tho? Such as "Presenting Annie Pie for Her Re-Baptism into the faith of following Christ".I'm aware of having a Reaffirmation of Faith (and I spent some time with my dad yesterday and asked him- but do people get "re-baptized" for that and he said no.) I did learn something tho- a particular So. Baptist Church would NOT except a transfer of faith nor recognize a full immersion baptism from a family member that wanted to join because she had been divorced. For her to be able to join- they told her she had to be "re-baptized" apparently because she had the "sin of divorce".

*thud* I told my dad- it's a wonder there are churches with very many members then! :laugh:

No, it wasn't spoken of as a "re-baptizm". It was just my baptizm into the faith.


If a church believes that you need to be re-baptized after the sin of divorce, then they should also believe that you need to be re-baptized everytime you stub your toe and curse, or everytime you tell a lie. No sin is worse than another in God's eyes. They'd have to have those baptizmal pools going 24/7! :rolleyes:

Anyway, as I've been saying it will only take until we hear G or C open their mouths again to know if they've changed or if it was all a scam. Guess which one I'm thinking. LOL

[Postergeist]

A. No, I'm not wearing a ~visible~ ankle bracelet, although it feels like it some times. :biggrin:

B. He spoke of my ex-sibling as "the son" but addressed him by name. Mom was "the wife" or "Mom," or occasionally "Hey, Maw."

C. His aunt was always called "Uncle [Name]" and he tended to tell stories starting with "When I was a little girl....." Small children would *delight* in correcting him, which is where I think it all started, but it carried on his entire life.


<sigh> Miss you, Pop. :crying:



(hmm- ex-sibling, that's a term I'm not used to)

your dad sounded like a real corker, lol

(((Spots)))

[Barbara fl.]

A. No, I'm not wearing a ~visible~ ankle bracelet, although it feels like it some times. :biggrin:

B. He spoke of my ex-sibling as "the son" but addressed him by name. Mom was "the wife" or "Mom," or occasionally "Hey, Maw."

C. His aunt was always called "Uncle [Name]" and he tended to tell stories starting with "When I was a little girl....." Small children would *delight* in correcting him, which is where I think it all started, but it carried on his entire life.


<sigh> Miss you, Pop. :crying:



Your Pop sounded like a cool dude.....I had an Uncle that used to name each item he wore to make us kids laugh....My dad would get all our names mixed up and call us by the others name....we would just laugh....I would love to be hearing all that again....

[AnniePie]

I have no problem they wanted to be re-baptised.. Maybe it makes them feel as though the past year has been forgiven and they can now move on......
What I do have a severe problem with is the fact that they had to do this on CAYLEE'S BIRTHDAY!!!!
Why can't Caylee have that one day all to herself?????
Why do the Anthony's have to take that away from her as well????:cursing::cursing::cursing:
moo

I don't want to come across as a know-it-all about this, as I'm certainly not. I just want to say that they only way that they will be forgiven is to confess and repent (which means turn away from sin). Baptizm doesn't wash away your sins; it's just an outward show of an inward change of heart.

And I agree with you marg, that it was done on Caylee's day to put the attention on themselves. Erk.

[Barbara fl.]

I don't want to come across as a know-it-all about this, as I'm certainly not. I just want to say that they only way that they will be forgiven is to confess and repent (which means turn away from sin). Baptizm doesn't wash away your sins; it's just an outward show of an inward change of heart.

And I agree with you marg, that it was done on Caylee's day to put the attention on themselves. Erk.


They probably think that by the baptism being publicized everyone will now believe their lies....Maybe their paster might, but I doubt anyone else will...(I doubt that the paster will either).....

[Postergeist]

The American Baptist Convention and the Southern Baptist Convention don't accept each others' baptisms; people transferring from one convention church need to be re-baptized in the new church. Also I'm sure the baptists don't accept immersion baptisms performed in other religions such as Church of Christ, Pentecostal, and other groups that require baptism by immersion.

I had quite a roller coaster ride of fundamentalist churches in my childhood and early teens. I've been baptized by immersion five times.

This baptism thing confuses me, because it seems to fly in the face of the "once saved, always saved" doctrine of fundamentalist religions.

oh my word! :sad: about the whole not accepting the other...

and I agree, it does seem to fly in the face of the 'once saved'

(and imo- to those that are reading this and aren't Christian- it does not and should not be this difficult or confusing- it is so simple, the words spoken in John 3:16 that is it in a nutshell)

[anon-o-miss]

Great observation! Did you also notice the sound and level of her voice when Cindy tells her that Caylee will be featured on People Mag?

This was quite apparent to me after listening the 2nd or 3rd time-

her soft response was something like "ohhhh, that's good"

imo- it's NOT a sigh of "relief"- but it is more of "great <mutter> just great <mutter> this is just getting too much attention for my liking here"

I agree. I noticed that as well.

[Postergeist]

<snipped>


If a church believes that you need to be re-baptized after the sin of divorce, then they should also believe that you need to be re-baptized everytime you stub your toe and curse, or everytime you tell a lie. No sin is worse than another in God's eyes. They'd have to have those baptizmal pools going 24/7! :rolleyes:


:laugh: thanks for your answer Annie- and for the laff- having those pools going 24/7 yeah- with a revolving water door!

[Snewpy]

(snipped respectfully for space)

"That little girl" defies description, as everybody knows who she is. In this case, "Caylee" is more appropriate. However, George probably considers the public as strangers, and by habit lapses into using descriptors rather than her name. It drives me nuts, but remember that we know George, Cindy, Casey, Lee, et al, much better than they know us.



I agree with your post Spots, but only in speaking about people in the "real world", not the anthony's. Here's my take, for what it's worth. I could understand if they said, My granddaughter, Caylee... but to constantly refer to her as "that little girl" or "that child" to me implies something more. My opinion only, of course, but it's that they either KNEW or suspected that their spawn had murdered their granddaughter, and it is a way of them defensively distancing themselves from Caylee because the truth is just too horrific and painful. By making Caylee an object, they minimize her humanity and it makes it easier to deal with the terrible facts that they know or suspect they are about to be subjected to. To my mind they are pushing Caylee away because they know a world of hurt was about to come down on them and if they' already begun to minimize her in their own minds, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much. JMO of course.

[Barbara fl.]

:laugh: thanks for your answer Annie- and for the laff- having those pools going 24/7 yeah- while a revolving water door!

:lol:.........

[Postergeist]

I agree. I noticed that as well.

good! :smile:

ya think LE did as well last year?

[Amy]

Bala- go put your nose up to the chalkboard! humffphf!

That was explained silly- I said she'll say she recovered them and had placed them in her trunk- that explains the smell!

Later she removed them from the trunk for the burial.

that's one demerit.

Bolding mine.

Probably the truthful scenario on this part, only it wasn't the squirrels.

[Barbara fl.]

I agree with your post Spots, but only in speaking about people in the "real world", not the anthony's. Here's my take, for what it's worth. I could understand if they said, My granddaughter, Caylee... but to constantly refer to her as "that little girl" or "that child" to me implies something more. My opinion only, of course, but it's that they either KNEW or suspected that their spawn had murdered their granddaughter, and it is a way of them defensively distancing themselves from Caylee because the truth is just too horrific and painful. By making Caylee an object, they minimize her humanity and it makes it easier to deal with the terrible facts that they know or suspect they are about to be subjected to. To my mind they are pushing Caylee away because they know a world of hurt was about to come down on them and if they' already begun to minimize her in their own minds, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much. JMO of course.


That makes sense....a form of disassociation....

But I must admit that at times I refer to my grand kids as the little guy or the little girl....it always is in the same sentence that "the little guy needs new glasses" or "the little girl needs new shoes or something"......By no means am I trying to disassociate myself from them in anyway...they are my heart....

But I truely understand what you are saying and it certainly makes sense to me.....

[Postergeist]

Mally bu! has gotten over her broken ipod. She is now choosing to enjoy the good things rather than fret over the bad.
She appears to have joined the Anthonys in their quest to make a positive out of an negative.

well yay! A regular little Patti LaBelle with her new attitude!

Anyone know if she participated in the water ceremony at the church?

(it seems like some of our posters have already experienced their own dunk-a-thons)

[Amy]

I agree with you, one time it wasn't accepted by the church, don't know if it is or not at the moment....But I believe that it is done in these days because of the cost of funerals and burial plots....some people just don't have that kind of money....My brother passed away and I was his only family (he never married)....I had him cremated because I did not have a plot for him, I had to travel 4 times to NY from Florida to discard his belongings...each trip was expensive...there was no way that I could have had him buried so I had him cremated for 2400.00 dollars and brought his ashes back home with me...the urn was an additional 400.00....

I have instructed my children to do the same with me....I can not see spending so much on a plot where I will just be in the dirt anyway...and eventually will turn to dust....

Some people say that if you are cremated you will not come back....well I'm not too sure that I want to come back....and I sure don't want to be keeping worms company.....but this is just my opinion, I'm sure there are many opinions on this subject....

All of the people I have heard discuss their choice of cremation based it primarily on cost. Such as, why spend all that money when you are already dead? And, the money could be spent better on paying off debt or leaving to family, etc.

Me? I have trouble thinking about burning, but I also have trouble thinking about being deep in the ground. I don't know what the deal is, it's not like I'm going to be alive to experience it, one way or the other, lol.

[Lavinia]

It is my understanding that one reason cremation has become more popular these days, (besides the expense of burials) is that people are so often mobile these days and don't want to bury a loved one in TX, say, then move to CA the next year, and VT five years from then. Some want to take the ashes with them so they will have something that they can feel closer to their loved one with and some want to scatter the ashes so that no matter where they are, they know their loved one is a part of the world we live in now, thus a part of theirs.

[101Spots]

I agree with your post Spots, but only in speaking about people in the "real world", not the anthony's. Here's my take, for what it's worth. I could understand if they said, My granddaughter, Caylee... but to constantly refer to her as "that little girl" or "that child" to me implies something more. My opinion only, of course, but it's that they either KNEW or suspected that their spawn had murdered their granddaughter, and it is a way of them defensively distancing themselves from Caylee because the truth is just too horrific and painful. By making Caylee an object, they minimize her humanity and it makes it easier to deal with the terrible facts that they know or suspect they are about to be subjected to. To my mind they are pushing Caylee away because they know a world of hurt was about to come down on them and if they' already begun to minimize her in their own minds, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much. JMO of course.

Your scenario is a genuine possibility. The Anthonys might also be using it as a subliminal means of keeping LE at arm's length, so to speak. They don't seem that close to each other, either. Except when they're on teevee and Cindy clutches George's ..... um...... er......... knee.

[Snewpy]

That makes sense....a form of disassociation....

But I must admit that at times I refer to my grand kids as the little guy or the little girl....it always is in the same sentence that "the little guy needs new glasses" or "the little girl needs new shoes or something"......By no means am I trying to disassociate myself from them in anyway...they are my heart....

But I truely understand what you are saying and it certainly makes sense to me.....

Exactly - but you are in the real world. :)

I know what you mean - we've all done that, but when you are talking to the media about your "missing" granddaughter, especially if you think she's been kidnapped ( cough cough wink wink ) then any crime psychologist would tell you you would want to do the opposite.

you would want the kidnapper to see Caylee as a human and not an object. They always suggest using the child or person's name as much as possible so the perpetrator begins to see the victim as someone, not something to be used.

As usual JMO

[101Spots]

:laugh: thanks for your answer Annie- and for the laff- having those pools going 24/7 yeah- with a revolving water door!

Isn't that a ride at Disney? :D:

[Amy]

:laugh: thanks for your answer Annie- and for the laff- having those pools going 24/7 yeah- with a revolving water door!

Revolving water door--reminds me of those big wooden wheels for the old time mills. Just put strap each person on one of the ledges, wedges, whatever they are, set the wheel to turning, could probably get 6 or more folks @ a time!!! Load and unload like a Ferris Wheel, but I'd hate to be the one holding my breath under the water when they do that part!!!

[adair]

but they use so many other words in improper ways - collaborate instead of corroborate is one example. i think they are trying in vain to sound more intelligent (superior?) than they are. instead, they come off as the exact opposite.


Hello everyone!!!!

Just jumping in here...I should be cleaning house, but that is another story.

Has anyone else noticed that The Anothony's speak LE....for example I have heard both Cindy and Lee say something to the affect or is that effect ...lol.... "kc maintains" that she dropped Caylee off at sawgrass appts, or something like that. It is like they speak LE or something. Too Bad They Could Not Speak TRUTH.

jmo....wondering if i am the only one who noticed that.......


jmoooooo

[Amy]

Cindy could be diligently studying her binder every evening so she knows when to spin several stories, when to stick to one. She will want a transcript of her recent deposition ... just to keep her story straight at trial ... no question.

Has that been released by any chance? ... haven't had time to read each day. I understood that as soon as transcripts were requested, they were fair game for media.

Wonder if that is one of the reasons Jose attended? Did he have a recorder, or are those allowed? Maybe he had a steno type person in there taking notes (unless he's a darn good notetaker himself) so they will have their own transcript, and not have to ask for the official one?

[anon-o-miss]

good! :smile:

ya think LE did as well last year?
Oh I'm sure they did. I've just been sitting back shaking my head at this whole mess. What the A's, Casey included, don't realize is there is not one person on that witness list that can hurt Casey's case more than they already have. They each have a different version of events and none jibe with the other. Everyone else however, is pretty consistant with their version of events and they all coincide. I'm sure Cindy will be a rambling, muttering mess on the stand and George will be fake crying to try to garner sympathy and as soon as the jury sees him peeking threw his fingers to gauge their reaction all sympathy will be gone.

[101Spots]

It is my understanding that one reason cremation has become more popular these days, (besides the expense of burials) is that people are so often mobile these days and don't want to bury a loved one in TX, say, then move to CA the next year, and VT five years from then. Some want to take the ashes with them so they will have something that they can feel closer to their loved one with and some want to scatter the ashes so that no matter where they are, they know their loved one is a part of the world we live in now, thus a part of theirs.

My parents both opted for cremation, although nobody else in the family had ever done so. *I* was elected to mix the ashes together and sprinkle them in 4 places that were significant to them.

Before any of you do this to your kids, think. What is the correct protocol for mixing ashes? Is a steel bowl OK? Should it be porcelain? Fine china? Plastic bucket? Is transporting the ashes in Zip-Lock baggies appropriate? Please leave detailed instructions as to your wishes.

[sydney]

Dec 11.......
hi everyone! i remember that day - i was home sick and saw dr. g come on and say the remains were caylee's. i cried and cried.....

[Postergeist]

That makes sense....a form of disassociation....

But I must admit that at times I refer to my grand kids as the little guy or the little girl....it always is in the same sentence that "the little guy needs new glasses" or "the little girl needs new shoes or something"......By no means am I trying to disassociate myself from them in anyway...they are my heart....

But I truely understand what you are saying and it certainly makes sense to me.....

oh Snewpy did have a great explanation on this-

Barbara- I noticed you use "the" at times when referring to your dear little ones.

I will do that when speaking of my dogs- I'll ask my hubby- "how'd the boy do about eating his dinner"-

IMO it's the use of THAT.

Just think about changing out your habit of "the" with "that" and see if it doesn't kind of put a different "tone" to it.

Maybe some of us are making too much out that that word being used in reference to Caylee by her entire family

or not.

I do recall tho that forensic linguists (and I can't think of their other professional titles off the top of my head) have commented before on what high profile people, criminals, politicians, etc. as what are red flags in their speech, writing, mannerisms, body language, etc.

oh just anything that Cindy would call "junk science".

imo

[Amy]

I can excuse it when he was speaking to LE, but not when he was speaking to Casey. Agreed, they have some odd speech patterns.

My father always referred to me as "the daughter," and even addressed me as such: "Hello, Daughter" rather than "Hello, [Name]." He was the definition of normal and good. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I call DS "son" most of the time. I think he thinks that is his name, and what others call him is just a nickname, since not everyone can call him Son!!!

[Postergeist]

Isn't that a ride at Disney? :D:

hehe

well by golly it just might soon be- or who knows, maybe we will hear of yet another new venture that the A's and the M's KFN have in the works that will involve a theme park to help bring awareness to missing kids- they already have experience in the event planning dept.

It will offer laps around a race track, boat rides, toss in the balloons...

[101Spots]

oh Snewpy did have a great explanation on this-

Barbara- I noticed you use "the" at times when referring to your dear little ones.

I will do that when speaking of my dogs- I'll ask my hubby- "how'd the boy do about eating his dinner"-

IMO it's the use of THAT.

Just think about changing out your habit of "the" with "that" and see if it doesn't kind of put a different "tone" to it.

Maybe some of us are making too much out that that word being used in reference to Caylee by her entire family

or not.

I do recall tho that forensic linguists (and I can't think of their other professional titles off the top of my head) have commented before on what high profile people, criminals, politicians, etc. as what are red flags in their speech, writing, mannerisms, body language, etc.

oh just anything that Cindy would call "junk science".

imo

Oh, we probably are. :D: But there's nothing like a *decent* doc dump to distract us. <hint, hint>

[sydney]

i'm sure you've all discussed this before, but since i cut a lot of school in the beginning of this case....

can you let me cheat off your homework and tell me what everyone makes of this apparent one-time reference to blanchard park?

thanks.

[Amy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-bart/ditto-dr-phil-that-is-so_b_128489.html


that's an old link from 9/23/08 but I was looking for Michelle Bart writig to compare against a certain blog I recently read and stumbled upon this link. It's the comments that interested me. A little over a year ago and the questiond we have were the questions people had then. Not a new subject, just an interesting read.

They might have been working w/authorities--@ one time. And, George did drive the billboard mobile (not to the extent described in the article. But, that seemed to be the extent of their continual search for their granddaughter. They did NOT help TES during their "short stay" in Orlando.

[anon-o-miss]

Exactly - but you are in the real world. :)

I know what you mean - we've all done that, but when you are talking to the media about your "missing" granddaughter, especially if you think she's been kidnapped ( cough cough wink wink ) then any crime psychologist would tell you you would want to do the opposite.

you would want the kidnapper to see Caylee as a human and not an object. They always suggest using the child or person's name as much as possible so the perpetrator begins to see the victim as someone, not something to be used.

As usual JMO
So true. If she really was kidnapped you would also want to give a description of the kidnapper instead of saying," That's not the focus, this little girl is the focus." You would also imo want to give LE Caylees correct toothbrush and hairbrush so that if they find her and her features have been altered they can quickly identify her. Another good idea would be to give a factual accounting of the last time you've seen the child in question. I would also think that you wouldn't refuse to talk about things that could help locate her by saying,"We don't want to give anything away it might put her in danger." All the while bad mouthing the supposed kidnapper to every microphone and camera shoved in your face.
As we all know the Anthony's didn't want Caylee found unless she was alive. Since, as I believe, they didn't really think Caylee was alive they didn't want her found.

[MorningGlory]

It is my understanding that one reason cremation has become more popular these days, (besides the expense of burials) is that people are so often mobile these days and don't want to bury a loved one in TX, say, then move to CA the next year, and VT five years from then. Some want to take the ashes with them so they will have something that they can feel closer to their loved one with and some want to scatter the ashes so that no matter where they are, they know their loved one is a part of the world we live in now, thus a part of theirs.


Not to beat this to death, but adding my own cent and a half. I decided several years ago that I'd like to be cremated, with the main reason being not taking up any more space in an increasingly crowded world. Kind of like making a "green" choice...jmo

[cassidy]

[QUOTE=Postergeist;13360321]Bala- go put your nose up to the chalkboard! humffphf!

That was explained silly- I said she'll say she recovered them and had placed them in her trunk- that explains the smell!

Later she removed them from the trunk for the burial.

that's one demerit.[/QUOT****SIGH**** You need to go stand in the corner too. We all know those dead squirrels crawled into the trunk and then later crawled out of the trunk. Casey never buried them, they simply walked away,

[ladeebug565]

But even the dead squirrel won't work because the stench was coming from the trunk not underneath the car.


This got me thinking about the trash from the trunk. It just makes my hinky meter go off. It looks like Casey took someone's trash and stuck it in the trunk to explain the smell. First, she told the officers when she was arrested for murder that she didn't partake of soft drinks.
Several different soft drink cans were in the bag.

Next, there was what appears to be a black plastic container from a microwave meal. Finally, the pizza box is especially odd. My daughter is a s-l-o-b when it comes to her car, but never once have I seen a pizza box. It, in my opinion, indicates someone living in the car or a plant of trash in the car. Wonder if they were able to trace the pizza box.

In all the shopping Casey did at Target, I don't think she bought soft drinks, only beer for Tone.

[Jester]

Hi Jester- what many may know but some don't is that cremation has it's roots in paganism.

for those interested- here's a link to why it was forbidden by this denomination at one point-

http://www.cremationurns.net/Catholic-Cremation-information.php

a bit on the early Judeo/Christians and how they were buried

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Baptists-954/cremation-3.htm

Jewish Law on that-

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/510874/jewish/Why-does-Jewish-law-forbid-cremation.htm

not allowed for Muslims

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1144161668480

However, we have several posting members that have had their loved ones cremains divvied up, scattered and worn and don't find what the A's did as odd at all.

With the Anthonys tho, this seems to be a family that are not all like-minded in the regards of what is to be done with their earthly body as far as the statement read by Baez that he said Casey wrote.

imo

That was apparently one discussion the family didn't have before Caylee's remains were found or while her little bones sat in a box in cold storage for what- almost 3 months or so.

Thanks. My religious background is a bit traditional, non-specific, and influenced by academics ... I guess each to their own, but if Cindy is embracing a Christian religion she may want to reconsider the family's decision about Cayley's remains. That, to me, would be the first indication that she is taking her "born again" or "renewed baptism" seriously. I think the decision to turn Cayley into jewelry invokes a bit of horror from traditional Christianity/Christians.

[Jester]

Dec 11.......

Renew their vows on the day the remains were discovered? That sounds consistent with their previous inappropriate, or odd, special events.

[Amy]

Excuse me but...For someone who Casey said had Money, what was she doing living at the Sawgrass apartments. IIRC, it was not exactly a nice pretty apartment complex with swimming pools, tennis courts and an exercise room. THAT'S what one has when they have a lot of money...
Just sayin..:confused:

But, you know, the sainted Nanny, the one who babysat for free and had duplicates of all that Caylee owned, who sometimes took $400 a week for her services--now, she wouldn't want to draw attention to the fact that she had money. No, she'd want to live like us mere mortals. I guess maybe she wanted Caylee to spend her time in an environment more like the one @ home (as in nice place, but nothing posh or fancy.) Besides, there was a pool in Caylee's own back yard, she would not need to be impressed w/a swimming pool @ the nanny's!!!!:biggrin:

[anon-o-miss]

They might have been working w/authorities--@ one time. And, George did drive the billboard mobile (not to the extent described in the article. But, that seemed to be the extent of their continual search for their granddaughter. They did NOT help TES during their "short stay" in Orlando.

Nope, they sure didn't help TES, and IIRC they took supplies that were for TES from Staples and never brought them to TES. They've obstructed every and anyone trying to find Caylee.

[cassidy]

Oh, we probably are. :D: But there's nothing like a *decent* doc dump to distract us. <hint, hint>

From your keyboard to the god of doc dumps ears! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jester]

April Fools Day!

Seriously, I knew a guy who married his 3rd wife on April Fools Day. Funny, that marriage didn't "take" for him either.

I like that ... great answer!

[Amy]

Cindy sure makes herself look like an imbecile...
Everyone knows Casey is a pathological liar but yet Cindy keeps saying, BUT...Casey said.
Cindy needs to keep her trap shut and let not the embarrassing things continue. The lies and the deceit is so off the charts. It's been way over a year and she continues to "quote" her daughter months ago and we are to believe it and go with the lies and nonsense.
Cindy is more of a JOKE than Casey...At least Casey knows to shut the hell up.
Cindy is nothing but a JOKE!:lol:

But, in the end, if everything Cindy says is "Casey says....." then Cindy holds no responsibility for the information.

[crimeq]

well yay! A regular little Patti LaBelle with her new attitude!

Anyone know if she participated in the water ceremony at the church?

(it seems like some of our posters have already experienced their own dunk-a-thons)

I can't figure out how Cindy had dry hair immediately after the Sunday service, but she did when she was interviewed on TV. I don't remember ever seeing swimming caps being worn in the baptismal.

Perhaps after Cindy was dunked, instead of going back to church for the service, she stayed backstage and dried her hair and did her makeup for her TV appearance -- which would be suspect to me because I'd think after being baptised into the church, she'd want to mingle with the other parishoners, accept their good wishes, etc. -- all the stuff that goes on in a church after an immersion baptism.

Instead, was Cindy primping her movie star image?

[Jester]

Wonder if that is one of the reasons Jose attended? Did he have a recorder, or are those allowed? Maybe he had a steno type person in there taking notes (unless he's a darn good notetaker himself) so they will have their own transcript, and not have to ask for the official one?

I don't think Jose or Brad had time to arrange for someone to be in court the first day to take notes on their behalves. I guess the transcripts are not yet released ... I can't imagine Cindy sitting back and trusting that she will remember to tell the same story in court when this goes to trial. I suppose we may have to wait, but eventually they will be requested.

[Amy]

I don't think anyone should read too much into those bruises in those pics of Caylee. She may or may not have been abused (probably was in some degree), but those pics are not evidence of it. They may just be evidence of a playful, reckless child.

My youngest daughter, who's nearing 50 now, was "accident prone" as a toddler. She was constantly getting cuts and bruises no matter how closely she was watched. A neighbor once told me the only way to protect her from injury was to wrap her entire body in foam rubber! BTW, she seems to have outgrown her accident proneness.

I agree w/the neighbor. Any time we are out in public, there are kids around w/bruises--because they are active little tykes. Bumping into things. Falling. Falling off the bike or trike. A pediatrician once told me that when they are looking for child abuse, they look for patterns of bruises. I was worried about being turned in for child abuse when my kids were learning to ride their bikes, remembering all the bruises my siblings and I had during our childhood.

[crimeq]

It is my understanding that one reason cremation has become more popular these days, (besides the expense of burials) is that people are so often mobile these days and don't want to bury a loved one in TX, say, then move to CA the next year, and VT five years from then. Some want to take the ashes with them so they will have something that they can feel closer to their loved one with and some want to scatter the ashes so that no matter where they are, they know their loved one is a part of the world we live in now, thus a part of theirs.

LOL, a friend of mine flew to a different city for a family funeral and was picked up at the airport by a family member. She sat in the front passenger seat and there was a bag of "something" on the floorboard, that was in her way. Finally she asked the driver what it was, and was told it was "Uncle Fred's ashes". Uncle Fred had been cremated some years earlier but noone really liked Uncle Fred, so didn't claim his ashes. The family was hoping Uncle Fred could be slipped into the newly dug grave for this newly-deceased family member. LOL. They weren't able to get away with it and I never heard another word about what happened to Uncle Fred.

Ooops that was pretty O/T, sorry.

[Jester]

I can't figure out how Cindy had dry hair immediately after the Sunday service, but she did when she was interviewed on TV. I don't remember ever seeing swimming caps being worn in the baptismal.

Perhaps after Cindy was dunked, instead of going back to church for the service, she stayed backstage and dried her hair and did her makeup for her TV appearance -- which would be suspect to me because I'd think after being baptised into the church, she'd want to mingle with the other parishoners, accept their good wishes, etc. -- all the stuff that goes on in a church after an immersion baptism.

Instead, was Cindy primping her movie star image?

"Were the Anthonys upstaging Caylee on what should have been her day? When your baptisms are controversial, you really have an image problem."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/08/casey-anthony-even-their-baptisms-become-controversial.html

[crimeq]

Not to beat this to death, but adding my own cent and a half. I decided several years ago that I'd like to be cremated, with the main reason being not taking up any more space in an increasingly crowded world. Kind of like making a "green" choice...jmo

I feel that way too ... plus I've never liked the idea of being buried six feet under.

[AnniePie]

From your keyboard to the god of doc dumps ears! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where is Lavenia? Last time she did her little Doc Dump Dance, we got one! :laugh:

[Amy]

Thanks for the link. Those look like rather dangerous injuries, in particular because they are so close to her eye. I've seen odd injuries on children when they're learning to walk and crash into something sharp, but that is usually a freak accident from slipping on something like ice. I don't think there's much ice in Florida.

The first one actually looks like the remnants of a bug bite. DD had one, right under the eye. Swollen to all get out @ first, then left the ugly red mark for a while.

When tykes fall into a coffee table or end table, it usually is quite near the eye, in ones I have seen. It's not that anyone tripped them or dropped them on the table, they were just lost balance or ran into it. Most people who are going to abuse their children, or even a spouse abusing a spouse are going to make an effort to keep the telltale signs in a place that will be most likely covered by clothing.

[Amy]

This may be some weird idea I have about "resting in peace", but I think it's odd to divide up Cayley's ashes and wear them as jewelry. Somehow, I don't think that's what the authors of the the Bible meant with "dust to dust, ashes to ashes". Anyone know what religion or set of beliefs they were baptized into? Maybe Cayley's ashes can be put back together, and allowed to rest in peace. Like I said, probably some weird idea I have ... but probably not inconsistent with some religious schools of thought.

I only know a few people who were cremated (but a lot who plan it) and @ least one's urn was buried in the family plot. I have heard of ashes being scattered over a favorite place-and it seems they would not be all together, in the sense of sitting somewhere in an urn. But, I have read where several family members want the ashes of a loved one, and those ashes are divided amongst them.

[anon-o-miss]

I agree w/the neighbor. Any time we are out in public, there are kids around w/bruises--because they are active little tykes. Bumping into things. Falling. Falling off the bike or trike. A pediatrician once told me that when they are looking for child abuse, they look for patterns of bruises. I was worried about being turned in for child abuse when my kids were learning to ride their bikes, remembering all the bruises my siblings and I had during our childhood.

I'm not sure about those pictures. The thing that makes me wonder, especially after reading where you said patterns of bruises, is about the 2 she had under her eye. They were identical in shape imo and location except they are under the opposite eye. I have three kids so I know how easily they can bruise or break something. However for all my kids scrapes, cuts, bruises, and even a broken collarbone (my daughter fell off of the bed and hit the closet door,) I don't think they've ever had identical bruises in the same (although mirrored) spot.

[cassidy]

I'm not sure about those pictures. The thing that makes me wonder, especially after reading where you said patterns of bruises, is about the 2 she had under her eye. They were identical in shape imo and location except they are under the opposite eye. I have three kids so I know how easily they can bruise or break something. However for all my kids scrapes, cuts, bruises, and even a broken collarbone (my daughter fell off of the bed and hit the closet door,) I don't think they've ever had identical bruises in the same (although mirrored) spot.

I don't know. My daughter #3 hit the edge of the coffee table 3 times 2 under one eye and 1 under another before the DH and I finally went "DUH! I guess she isn't gonna stop running so maybe we should remove the coffee table? " I think it's just normal childhood bruises.

[anon-o-miss]

The first one actually looks like the remnants of a bug bite. DD had one, right under the eye. Swollen to all get out @ first, then left the ugly red mark for a while.

When tykes fall into a coffee table or end table, it usually is quite near the eye, in ones I have seen. It's not that anyone tripped them or dropped them on the table, they were just lost balance or ran into it. Most people who are going to abuse their children, or even a spouse abusing a spouse are going to make an effort to keep the telltale signs in a place that will be most likely covered by clothing.
Yeah, but if Caylee was accident prone it would be easy for Casey to just say,"Oh she just bumped into the table again... Clumsy, clumsy Caylee." Casey has no problem with teling the same lie over and over again, for different circumstances (ie. everyone's parents were having strokes that June if Casey is to be believed.). I can't believe she was any more honest in her parenting. Could she be purposely bumping Caylee to make her hit the table? Then she could show everyone how loving she is by comforting Caylee, all the while smiling inside because she hurt her. Last year there was a girl on myspace that had recorded a conversation she had with Cindy. On it Cindy made the comment, ....If it was an accident Casey would have been all over it for the attention, she wouldn't try to cover it up. This leads me to believe two things....
1.) Whatever Casey did to Caylee could not be covered up to look like an accident.
2.) Casey had probably used Caylees ails or mishaps to garner positive attention before.

[martha]

"Were the Anthonys upstaging Caylee on what should have been her day? When your baptisms are controversial, you really have an image problem."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/08/casey-anthony-even-their-baptisms-become-controversial.html
Is this link the only one to c and g being re-baptism? I just can;t believe these people and how they have forgotten about CAYLEE. Little caylee has put them on easy street and now they don;t even have to work anymore and they still don;t care about her. They know casey killed her and they don;t care about anyone but self. It just breaks my heart. This family is something elce. I hope I never hear of anyone like them again. God bless little Caylee. jmho