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daniel green
08-10-2009, 11:52 PM
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) generated the kind of buzz other politicians covet when he launched his bid to help rebrand the Republican Party last spring. Television crews and reporters wedged themselves among the crowd of party faithful to cover the National Council for a New America's first event at a packed pizza parlor in an Arlington, Va., strip mall. The resulting coverage dominated cable news chatter for the next week. Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney were also on board. But the council has since flamed out – at least publicly. Since its launch, the National Council hasn’t held a single public event, despite more than 5,000 invitations to take their show out on the road. Congressional ethics rules limit what Cantor can do with the group because he launched it from his leadership office, making it harder to organize events and recruit partners. Despite that caution, the group is still taking heat from outside watchdog groups that argue he is violating the spirit, and perhaps the letter, of those rules.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25998.html#ixzz0Nq5NDnNa

Susan43
08-11-2009, 12:42 AM
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25998.html#ixzz0Nq5NDnNa

Yeah, well, I wouldn't underestimate Cantor and I think the title of the article just might be an underestimation.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that his group or part of it are all a part of the townhall disruptions.

IaNsSyAlNuE
08-11-2009, 12:56 AM
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25998.html#ixzz0Nq5NDnNa

So I guess it depends on the spin either it "flames out" or Cantor is as the article says more than once:

Congressional ethics rules limit what Cantor can do with the group because he launched it from his leadership office, making it harder to organize events and recruit partners. Despite that caution, the group is still taking heat from outside watchdog groups that argue he is violating the spirit, and perhaps the letter, of those rules

So he can't accept the invintations and such because he may be in ethics violations and the watchdog groups are keeping a tight leash on it.

daniel green
08-11-2009, 03:02 AM
Seems it was, like all these GOP attempts against the administration/President, not well thought out.

And, gosh, it just petered out after the initial pizza parlor meeting. :blushing:

IaNsSyAlNuE
08-11-2009, 03:15 AM
Seems it was, like all these GOP attempts against the administration/President, not well thought out.

And, gosh, it just petered out after the initial pizza parlor meeting. :blushing:

You saw that as "an attempt against Obama and his adminstration"? WOW!

Brentwood
08-13-2009, 03:29 PM
Limbaugh Blows Off GOP Rebranding Effort: We Don't Need A "Listening Tour"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/limbaugh-on-gop-re-brandi_n_195951.html

ABC
08-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Limbaugh Blows Off GOP Rebranding Effort: We Don't Need A "Listening Tour"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/limbaugh-on-gop-re-brandi_n_195951.html
I agree with that totally. The "listening" thing was stupid from the get go, in my opinion, particulary as the Lib Dems are doing their part to help the GOP rise from the ashes, so to speak. 2010 is around the corner and we will see what the PEOPLE think.:ohmy::ohmy:

daniel green
08-13-2009, 04:40 PM
ABC--totally agree that the idea of that listening tour was stupid from the git.

Brentwood
08-15-2009, 02:09 PM
Since the repubs only represent a small portion of the country, imo, there is no amount of rebranding that will do much. They are the party for the rich and powerful (small minority), at the expense of the poor and middle class. Somehow they have got away with lies, influencing some people to vote against their own best interests. Many people are waking up and seeing them for what they are.

ABC
08-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Since the repubs only represent a small portion of the country, imo, there is no amount of rebranding that will do much. They are the party for the rich and powerful (small minority), at the expense of the poor and middle class. Somehow they have got away with lies, influencing some people to vote against their own best interests. Many people are waking up and seeing them for what they are.

Well, after 8 years of a Republican President and 12 of a Republican Congress and the Dems getting back in 2 1/2 years ago, somebody voted the Repubs into office and will again. As the Townhall Meeting have shown, folks don't need to be Rich and Powerful to be fiscally Conservative and believe in individual freedom and the freedom of CHOICE.
Oh, and the Administration can't even get the overwhelming majority of Dems they do have in both the House and Senate, to vote in their Health Plan.

Carol25
08-15-2009, 06:31 PM
Well, after 8 years of a Republican President and 12 of a Republican Congress and the Dems getting back in 2 1/2 years ago, somebody voted the Repubs into office and will again. As the Townhall Meeting have shown, folks don't need to be Rich and Powerful to be fiscally Conservative and believe in individual freedom and the freedom of CHOICE.
Oh, and the Administration can't even get the overwhelming majority of Dems they do have in both the House and Senate, to vote in their Health Plan.
I think until they come up with a simple plan of insuring the uninsured without the deals (pharmaceuticals, vendors and hospitals)on all providers, the bill is doomed.

There are private health insurance for those who have healthcare and those that don't should have the "deals" with pharmaceuticals, hospitals and the rest. But don't impose it on those that want no part of it.

watcher2005
08-15-2009, 06:38 PM
Since the repubs only represent a small portion of the country, imo, there is no amount of rebranding that will do much. They are the party for the rich and powerful (small minority), at the expense of the poor and middle class. Somehow they have got away with lies, influencing some people to vote against their own best interests. Many people are waking up and seeing them for what they are.

After the bailouts and TARP and backing million dollar RIAA lawsuits against common Americans and corporatists joining the administration team, I don't think the Democrats have much to offer that's different.

Carol25
08-16-2009, 12:51 PM
The Democrats branded the Republicans as the Party of "NO." Perhaps this was the Dem's mistake.

Could it be the Republicans are now known as
"NO" to Health Care Reform unilaterally;
"NO" to pushing out bills at 3am, to avoid a chance of legislators reading the bill;
"NO" to socialism; "
"NO" to spending absurd amounts of tax dollars on jets for Congress and most everything that comes to their committee;
"NO" to Pelosi ! and
"NO" to Acorn and illegals.


The Democrats "branded" the Republicans for a brighter future than thought months ago. JMO

Brentwood
08-16-2009, 01:22 PM
I heard this on the Rachel Maddow show…

Self-destruction happens in stages. The repub’s are apparently in the 5th stage.

Stage 1 – Failed policies and practices

Stage 2- embarrassing massive losses

Stage 3- Random, meaningless, criticism….i.e. Obama is a marxist socialist fascist communist not born in USA & we hate teleprompters.

Stage 4 – Listening tours, Squashed by Rush – We do not need a listening tour…We need a teaching tour.

Stage 5- The cat fight. Repub infighting. They are speaking out against each other using staff or themselves. Cantor is the 6th repub elected official, in last few months, having to make a turn around after receiving criticism from Limbaugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKWXmU8LlOY

ABC
08-16-2009, 01:22 PM
The Democrats branded the Republicans as the Party of "NO." Perhaps this was the Dem's mistake.

Could it be the Republicans are now known as
"NO" to Health Care Reform unilaterally;
"NO" to pushing out bills at 3am, to avoid a chance of legislators reading the bill;
"NO" to socialism; "
"NO" to spending absurd amounts of tax dollars on jets for Congress and most everything that comes to their committee;
"NO" to Pelosi ! and
"NO" to Acorn and illegals.


The Democrats "branded" the Republicans for a brighter future than thought months ago. JMO
Now that is great. In my opinion, like Nancy Pelosi, the Dems always go too far.

Brentwood
08-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Yeah, well, I wouldn't underestimate Cantor and I think the title of the article just might be an underestimation.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that his group or part of it are all a part of the townhall disruptions.

I wouldn't put it past them either. There actions speak load and clear (see stage 3, post 18)

CANDYKISSES
08-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Now that is great. In my opinion, like Nancy Pelosi, the Dems always go too far.

You mean Nancy call'em UNAMERICAN Pelosi who once thought being a disruptor was great for America? :blush: JMO

Yes, the people still have voice in this country and they're starting to come out and speak up despite the tattle line to the White House. :wink:

Carol25
08-17-2009, 05:30 PM
I think it just might be a matter of time before Obama has issues with the Constitution and the nation will notice and demand action.

redundancy
08-17-2009, 06:41 PM
That tattle line has been stopped, CandyKisses. Another big mistake from the Prez, imo.

That addy now says this: "The e-mail address you just sent a message to is no longer in service. We are now accepting your feedback about health insurance reform via . . . . .”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26188.html

If the Bush Administration had been involved in such a screw-up it would have made the cover of every news magazine, led the nightly news for days if not weeks and probably been the subject of another Michael Moore "film". IMO

ABC
08-17-2009, 06:59 PM
I think it just might be a matter of time before Obama has issues with the Constitution and the nation will notice and demand action.
" War in Afghanastian vital to our future Security" says Obama and treatens vetos bills from Congress - Huff Post? Veto's for bill coming from The place where the Dems have a filibuster proof Senate and a Majority in the House. Who would have thought?

ABC
08-17-2009, 07:21 PM
" War in Afghanastian vital to our future Security" says Obama and treatens vetos bills from Congress - Huff Post? Veto's for bill coming from The place where the Dems have a filibuster proof Senate and a Majority in the House. Who would have thought?

Oops sorry, correction. Thats "fundamental" not "vital "and this article can be found at Huffington Post under World News as Obama to VFW.

Barbara2
08-17-2009, 07:43 PM
"NO" kidding! I may have to change my affiliation again. LOL

I was ready for change back in November. I have been pretty much a Republican for awhile but I didn't like the way things have been going the last few years. I'm beginning to think that Bush got the blame for the Democrats in seats because since January, it's gotten much, much worse, IMO. The last several months have cemented me into the Republican party, for now. Bad decisions can change that in a heartbeat. The Republicans don't need to rebrand anything. The Democrats have done a fine job of making the Republican party look much more attractive. AIMO.

redundancy
08-17-2009, 07:44 PM
I think it just might be a matter of time before Obama has issues with the Constitution and the nation will notice and demand action.

I think BO does have issues with the Constitution although he's certainly not the first President since at least, oh, I dunno - 1932? - to have this idiosyncrasy.

magythekat
08-19-2009, 07:51 PM
Actually, the government in place for the last 8 years was greatly out of touch, and quite destructive. For the first time in 8 years our Government has it together. A dose of reality is a hard thing, isn't it?

mo


Yes.. a dose of Obama reality is a REAL hard thing..I'm finding that out more every day.

Brentwood
08-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Actually, the government in place for the last 8 years was greatly out of touch, and quite destructive. For the first time in 8 years our Government has it together. A dose of reality is a hard thing, isn't it?

mo

I think you are onto something here. Reality bites for some.

Brentwood
09-11-2009, 12:40 AM
The gop is rebranding themselves into the far right fringe. It is good for dem's come 2010. It is just horrible to see the repubs allow the loud 20% fringe to take over the party.

Brentwood
09-11-2009, 02:15 AM
The 20% rw fringe has taken over the repub party. They are killing their party and they do not even get it. They are pushing out the moderate repub's and only the bottom rocks are left and it is very ugly. They think 2010 will be good for them, which is a delusion.