MJ Discussion 8/6

[Pattycake]

Jermaine Jackson on LKL Friday.
His first interview since Michael's memorial.
According to CNN, Jermaine will speak about continuing MJ's musical legacy ( which is raking in millions of dollars) the future of the children and MJ's autopsy.

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/JERMAINEONLARRYKINGFRIDAYNIGHT.htm

[retiredcop]

IIRC last week it was announced the autopsy would be delayed another week, which would be this week, no? This week there is no information on it being delayed again.....

Just silence.

in my opinion

[retiredcop]

Brought this over from yesterday's thread because of the content:

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Now you're just showing your frustration by being insulting.
I'm leaving now just because of that.

PS Just because you live in CA does not make you an expert in CA law.

in my opinion
And just because you live in Chinook, WA doesn't make you an expert either given that you only spent four years with the police department and quit 31 years ago in 1978 because you injured your knee. Things have changed big time since then. IMO


This is a total lie. I don't know who you're thinking about, but it isn't me. It is against TOS to post personal information regarding a poster anyway even it is was me.

[VC2]

Jermaine Jackson on LKL Friday.
His first interview since Michael's memorial.
According to CNN, Jermaine will speak about continuing MJ's musical legacy ( which is raking in millions of dollars) the future of the children and MJ's autopsy.

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/JERMAINEONLARRYKINGFRIDAYNIGHT.htm

he has an exlusive blog on LKL tooThe tragedy of my brother’s death is still with me. But in his death, I have found a mission for my life. My existence is now dedicated to spreading Michael’s message. Michael had a unique place in the world. He not only did good, but taught others how to do the same. This only magnifies his loss to the world.

Michael-Jermaine-JacksonI want to make people aware of the humanitarian side of Michael. I want to show them how his true emphasis wasn’t music, or performing; it was improving the world. Understand this, and you begin to understand the essence of who my brother was.

Michael wanted to help people see the problems that are destroying our world. That’s what he was about, and what his upcoming shows were about. He was trying to teach through his lyrics, video and performance. He wanted to use every part of himself to show us what we are capable of becoming. His goal was to demonstrate to people that if we all just try to make world a better place, it will be.

Michael did charity work all his life – since we first started performing as the Jackson 5. He quickly learned talent alone means nothing – it’s what you do with it that really matters. What are you doing to make things better for other people? In grasping this, Michael found his purpose: Entertain and educate at the same time.

more at the link:
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/

i refuse to link to anything of DD's but she does have interesting info on the plastic surgeon hoefflin. very.

[penfold]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Details
Kids can like their molester. They can even enjoy what is happening, and look forward to it. If given drugs or alcohol, they can even not remember it. So the quotes given so far do not disprove a thing to me. But if she says he said he was never abused - that'd be a bit more solid (although kids, particularly boys, tend to deny it for a very long time - even more than girls, it's considered to be their shame more than the abuser, and people will, honestly and truely, suggest that they must now be gay because of the abuse). :Quote

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I could not agree more Details

If you read a report about a guy in your street who had set up his back yard as a kids playground and openly admitted to sleeping with little boys wouldn't your hinky meter be up?

Forget his music for a minute, forget his charity work and look at MJ as a human being, as flawed and imperfect as everyone else.

I wouldn't let any young boy sleep in the same bed as a grown man.

The parents of Arvizo and Chandler knew exactly what was going on between MJ and their kids and they let it happen as they knew there was money to be made. They effectively pimped out their own children

As for being found not guilty in a court of law - HELLO how often do the courts get it wrong

[retiredcop]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Details
Kids can like their molester. They can even enjoy what is happening, and look forward to it. If given drugs or alcohol, they can even not remember it. So the quotes given so far do not disprove a thing to me. But if she says he said he was never abused - that'd be a bit more solid (although kids, particularly boys, tend to deny it for a very long time - even more than girls, it's considered to be their shame more than the abuser, and people will, honestly and truely, suggest that they must now be gay because of the abuse). :Quote

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I could not agree more Details

If you read a report about a guy in your street who had set up his back yard as a kids playground and openly admitted to sleeping with little boys wouldn't your hinky meter be up?

Forget his music for a minute, forget his charity work and look at MJ as a human being, as flawed and imperfect as everyone else.

I wouldn't let any young boy sleep in the same bed as a grown man.

The parents of Arvizo and Chandler knew exactly what was going on between MJ and their kids and they let it happen as they knew there was money to be made. They effectively pimped out their own children

As for being found not guilty in a court of law - HELLO how often do the courts get it wrong

Excellent post.:thumbsup:

[BOZGAL2]

Jermaine Jackson on LKL Friday.
His first interview since Michael's memorial.
According to CNN, Jermaine will speak about continuing MJ's musical legacy ( which is raking in millions of dollars) the future of the children and MJ's autopsy.

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/JERMAINEONLARRYKINGFRIDAYNIGHT.htm

Thanx for the reminder.
This is one LKL I will definately watch. :smile:

[GentleBreeze]

Thanx for the reminder.
This is one LKL I will definitely watch. :smile:

Good day, BG.

It is good to see that more and more current information is coming out about MJ.

I am puzzled however how some seem to go waaaaay off topic when Coldwater told us we are to discuss current issues concerning the death of MJ, estate, investigation into death, etc.

Maybe some are just stuck in a rut.:wink:

imo

[GentleBreeze]

Jermaine Jackson on LKL Friday.
His first interview since Michael's memorial.
According to CNN, Jermaine will speak about continuing MJ's musical legacy ( which is raking in millions of dollars) the future of the children and MJ's autopsy.

http://www.mj-upbeat.com/JERMAINEONLARRYKINGFRIDAYNIGHT.htm

Thank you. I certainly will be watching.

imo

[BOZGAL2]

Good day, BG.

It is good to see that more and more current information is coming out about MJ.

I am puzzled however how some seem to go waaaaay off topic when Coldwater told us we are to discuss current issues concerning the death of MJ, estate, investigation into death, etc.

Maybe some are just stuck in a rut.:wink:

imo

You and me both.
Sometimes I feel like I'm back on the old CTV boards. :wink:

Very puzzling indeed.

[flipflop]

Dr. Arnold Klein Won't Give Up
Posted Aug 6th 2009 12:20PM by TMZ Staff

The judge unceremoniously pulled the plug on Dr. Arnold Klein's attempt to insert himself in the Michael Jackson custody case on Monday ... but last night his lawyer told us the doctor will go back for a second round.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/06/dr-arnold-klein-michael-jackson-mark-vincent-kaplan-cutsody-children/

[GentleBreeze]

You and me both.
Sometimes I feel like I'm back on the old CTV boards. :wink:

Very puzzling indeed.

I thought CW said if anyone wanted to go way back years ago they needed to go to the Old Trials/Cases board.:confused:

Sounds simple to me.:confused:

imo

[mrsmcgoo]

Dr. Arnold Klein Won't Give Up
Posted Aug 6th 2009 12:20PM by TMZ Staff

The judge unceremoniously pulled the plug on Dr. Arnold Klein's attempt to insert himself in the Michael Jackson custody case on Monday ... but last night his lawyer told us the doctor will go back for a second round.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/06/dr-arnold-klein-michael-jackson-mark-vincent-kaplan-cutsody-children/


I don't get what this Dr. is up too. I hope his intentions are good and he has bonded with the children over the years. I don't know though, seems very strange to me that he is not taking NO for an answer.

:confused:

JMO

[BOZGAL2]

I thought CW said if anyone wanted to go way back years ago they needed to go to the Old Trials/Cases board.:confused:

Sounds simple to me.:confused:

imo

You would think so. I personally do not live in the past. Too time consuming. JMO

[BOZGAL2]

I don't get what this Dr. is up too. I hope his intentions are good and he has bonded with the children over the years. I don't know though, seems very strange to me that he is not taking NO for an answer.

:confused:

JMO

I do not understand this either. :confused:

[Rayosunshine]

Still nothing concrete on the cause of death?

[retiredcop]

OMG four posts of complaining about the board started by Ms Breeze.
Please can we move on?

I wish they would at least tell us if the autopsy reports are going to be delayed again.

in my opinion

[BOZGAL2]

I do not think the autopsy results will be released until the investigation is over. And maybe not even then. LE/Coroner are not obligated to release the results to the public. They can be sealed. JMO

[retiredcop]

I don't get what this Dr. is up too. I hope his intentions are good and he has bonded with the children over the years. I don't know though, seems very strange to me that he is not taking NO for an answer.

:confused:

JMO

Do you think it could have something to do with the JW religion? Could he want the children to also have contact with Judaism and learn about their Jewish ancestry? IIRC I think it had something to do with their education. He must have been talking to Mr Jackson all along about the children and what Mr Jackson may have wanted for them. I don't think it has to do with money.

in my opinion of course

[penfold]

Bringing over from the other board :smile:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pattycake
"More blah..blah..blah.
The kids are being sheltered and protected. The Jackson clan is protecting them. They loved and adored their father and vice versa. Paris' grace at the memorial was a total tribute to the way MJ had raised her with such poise and intellect.
Michael did not kill himself, the doctor went to sleep while he was supposed to be watching him. Yeah...I would rehearse my but off for days on end and then kill myself. As for money..the Jacksons have money. You should read up on some articles.
This is not rocket science. "

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I have to disagree with you pattycake, the kids will know EXACTLY what is going on. You think they have no TV, newspapers, magazines or internet? You think they don't get to speak to anyone that does?

Kids can be very cruel to each other so I'm sure they would have heard about all the allegations from other kids they have had contact with.

If they don't know now they will do very soon, there will be no escape from it. Their father was an eccentric, overspending drug addict with a questionable interest in boys. A man who openly admitted to sleeping with young boys on national TV.

You may love his music or admire him for his charity work but please remember he was still a human being and human beings do terrible terrible things all the time.

[penfold]

Originally Posted by SandyCrack
Wouldn't your posts about the "love" MJ and LMP shared be considered off topic as well? If there's a rut...you're stuck in it too. imo [QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buzzzzzz;13343634]-----------------------

ohhhhhhhhhhh u r sooooooooo right. well said!!!!!! imo

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I have to agree, why are we allowed to speculate on his sex life with women but not allowed to comment on his 'alleged love' for children?

Nobody here knows the ins and out of his sexual relationship with LMP anymore than they know about his relationships with Arvizo and Chandler.

Why does LMP have anymore credibility in what she claims than the children that alleged he abused them?

[penfold]

What do you base your opinion on regarding the idea he didn't stop what you consider inappropriate behavior. Were there more allegations that followed the trial, that I didn't hear about, or are you suggesting he was inappropriate with his own children? Because as far as I know, he never invited another child to his home, after the trial.

After the Chandler case you would think he would be a little more careful about sharing his bed with children, he wasn't He left himself open to the allegations from Arvizo by sleeping with him and admitting this to the world in that hideous Bashir interview.

[GentleBreeze]

Wouldn't your posts about the "love" MJ and LMP shared be considered off topic as well?

Probably so, although I wasn't the one that brought up LMP in the first place.

I suppose if any of us want to discuss yesteryears concerning MJs life we will have to do as CW has stated and start a thread in the old trial/case board where it is intended to go.

imo

[penfold]

[QUOTE=penfold;13343650][QUOTE]
Originally Posted by SandyCrack
Wouldn't your posts about the "love" MJ and LMP shared be considered off topic as well? If there's a rut...you're stuck in it too. imo


Lisa has more crediblity because she wasn't looking for a payout, she has her own wealth. Chandler was looking for and did get paid. And Anton Jackson/ Gavin Arvizo and his mother were proven to be liars in the trial, and shown to have engaged in similiar schemes prior to their attempt to extort money from MJ.

imo...of course

ps.. personally I don't think his sex life is anyone's business.

How do you really know that his relationship with LMP was even genuine, there is lots of speculation that it was purely a business arrangement. She married him to put an end to the rumours of his pedophilia and homosexuality.

None of us knows what went on behind closed doors, it's all speculation.

MJ sets off my hinky meter - My opinion obviously :smile:

[Nic99]

Yes he did open himself up to scheming con artists, but since he wasn't doing anything wrong, I suppose he felt no need to appease the haters.

imo...of course.

Yes and he was found not guilty of the charges, as we know, after a thorough and fair trial imo. IMO MJ was a bit naive as an adult and trusted too many people. Although I think it is a good trait to see the good in people, I do think he had no idea how people can twist things to make it look how they want imo.

[penfold]

Probably so, although I wasn't the one that brought up LMP in the first place.

I suppose if any of us want to discuss yesteryears concerning MJs life we will have to do as CW has stated and start a thread in the old trial/case board where it is intended to go.

imo

New thread started :wink:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13343693#post13343693

[Unperson1984]

Yes he did open himself up to scheming con artists, but since he wasn't doing anything wrong, I suppose he felt no need to appease the haters.

imo...of course.

In reality we don't know what happened with any of the allegations made against MJ. Speaking for myself, I have faith in our legal system and that system found him to be not guilty.

[CinderL.]

This was reported on the Today show this morning (along with the news that KJ wants a third autopsy).

Photos show bloody shirt in MJ's closet

http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/06/pics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl2|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2F200 9%2F08%2F06%2Fpics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet%2F

//snip//
As the investigation into Michael Jackson's death continues, RadarOnline has obtained photos taken inside Jackson's house in the days following his death, including one picture that shows what seems to be a blood-soaked shirt in the King of Pop's closet.
//snip//


Oh, I saw this this morning and forgot about it. Very strange.

[GentleBreeze]

New thread started :wink:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13343693#post13343693

Good. Have fun and enjoy!:thumbup::seeya:

imo

[Nic99]

Oh, I saw this this morning and forgot about it. Very strange.

TBH IMO this could so easily have been staged. It is so hard to believe anything you see in the press these days.... Why would anyone put a blood-stained t-shirt back in the closet, hanging up? I just think its a con.

[flipflop]

This was reported on the Today show this morning (along with the news that KJ wants a third autopsy).

Photos show bloody shirt in MJ's closet

http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/06/pics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl2|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2F200 9%2F08%2F06%2Fpics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet%2F

//snip//
As the investigation into Michael Jackson's death continues, RadarOnline has obtained photos taken inside Jackson's house in the days following his death, including one picture that shows what seems to be a blood-soaked shirt in the King of Pop's closet.
//snip//

gosh. That shirt looks awful. I like the bartender though. :wink:

[CinderL.]

Hi CinderL,

Coincidence?

Regardless I'd think that LE would have taken the shirt, regardless of whether or not the stains may have looked old. Then again, they didn't secure the crime scene immediately....

Maybe the doll did it? :laugh:

:ohmy::laugh:

Yes, it sure would have been nice if the police had secured the house, before moving vans and what not went in.

[Nic99]

And another link regarding the bloody shirt, which was not seized by LE as evidence:

Bloodied shirt found in Jacko's wardrobe

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2573761/Blouse-covered-in-blood-found-in-Jackos-wardrobe.html

//snip//
Asked why the shirt was not taken in by investigators, a spokesman replied: "I don't know why."

He added: "Our detectives aren't speaking to the media about the investigation so we won't have an answer at the moment. I don't foresee one for some time."
//snip//

I wouldn't believe anything in The Sun lol...

[Nic99]

LOL, see my post #58. Again, maybe the Today Show got duped.

One of the articles mentioned that Dr. Murray may have used it to clean up. What would there have been to clean up if MJ went into respiratory failure or cardiac arrest?

Think we crossed posts:smile: I still don't see why someone would mop up blood and then hang that t-shirt back up in the closet, doesn't really ring true to me imo.

[flipflop]

I don't suppose that could be betadine, could it?

[Roxxanne]

back at Dr K's office according to TMZ. They have a stream if anyone is interested.

[Pretty Leaf]

[QUOTE=Arguendo;13343663][QUOTE=penfold;13343650]

How do you really know that his relationship with LMP was even genuine, there is lots of speculation that it was purely a business arrangement. She married him to put an end to the rumours of his pedophilia and homosexuality.

None of us knows what went on behind closed doors, it's all speculation.

MJ sets off my hinky meter - My opinion obviously :smile:

bolding mine


Not according to LMP herself. No specualtion but to set record straight about them


http://www.usmagazine.com/news/lisa-marie-presley-michael-jackson-talked-about-dying-young-2009266

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.....

"Our relationship was not 'a sham' as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship, yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a 'Normal life' found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.....

"I wanted to 'save him' I wanted to save him from the inevitable, which is what has just happened.....

[Roxxanne]

[QUOTE=penfold;13343678][QUOTE=Arguendo;13343663]

bolding mine


Not according to LMP herself. No specualtion but to set record straight about them


http://www.usmagazine.com/news/lisa-marie-presley-michael-jackson-talked-about-dying-young-2009266

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.....

"Our relationship was not 'a sham' as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship, yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a 'Normal life' found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.....

"I wanted to 'save him' I wanted to save him from the inevitable, which is what has just happened.....

I'm glad she did this blog. I know some will never believe her, but I do. Lisa Marie, as some have pointed out, has no reason to lie or even say anything about it for that matter. She's pretty much a say what she means type of woman. Wish she would tell us more.
IMO of course

[Unperson1984]

This was reported on the Today show this morning (along with the news that KJ wants a third autopsy).

Photos show bloody shirt in MJ's closet

http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/06/pics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl2|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2F200 9%2F08%2F06%2Fpics-show-bloody-shirt-in-jacksons-closet%2F

//snip//
As the investigation into Michael Jackson's death continues, RadarOnline has obtained photos taken inside Jackson's house in the days following his death, including one picture that shows what seems to be a blood-soaked shirt in the King of Pop's closet.
//snip//

I wonder what caused the stain on the carpet flowing away from the bed?

[retiredcop]

I wonder what caused the stain on the carpet flowing away from the bed?

That doesn't look like the same bedroom he died in as in the other picture.

in my opinion

[on board!]

How could you forget the two other children...the ones that he paid millions to? And...Terry George, and all the children he had in his bed in between. IMO Just sharing a bed with an unrelated boy is inappropriate. IMO If it wasn't a compulsion, it would have stopped after the first time it raised eyebrows.

Why do you think it's inappropriate just to share the room or bed with children? What's the reason for your way of thinking..., is it based on personal experience or who else says it's inappropriate... and why?

I don't understand where the idea of inappropriateness comes from if it's just about sharing the room or bed. It's nothing illegal or wrong.

[retiredcop]

Why do you think it's inappropriate just to share the room or bed with children? What's the reason for your way of thinking..., is it based on personal experience or who else says it's inappropriate... and why?

I don't understand where the idea of inappropriateness comes from if it's just about sharing the room or bed. It's nothing illegal or wrong.

If you had a single man living in your neighborhood inviting neighbor kids (boys) in to share his bed or his room at night, would you approve? Would your neighbors approve? I don't think so. Well, it's no different with Mr Jackson now is it?

in my opinion

[retiredcop]

He is dead now, but I have said before that I would feel more comfortable having my kids with MJ, than I would feel having them with the people who continue to call him a pedophile.

imo...of course.

Could you tell me why?

in my opinion

[retiredcop]

Because I absolutely believe that he has never or would have never hurt any child, at any time.

That's why he could keep having his pick of kids with the parents permission.

in my opinion of course

[CinderL.]

In the photos that show that bloody blouse, it also shows the bedroom where Dr. Murray slept (very small I think for such a large house) and they show in #8 a picture of MJ's room. It says in the caption, that this is where the paramedics worked on Michael. So was he really ever in Dr. Murray's room, or did Dr. M move him, or was he always in his own bed and some media have gotten it wrong??????

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/15326

[GentleBreeze]

Just reading to catch up -- but there's a thread for the trial and old allegations:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

Thank you.

I was thinking that when I got back on line I would see an empty board and everyone would be herding up over on the new thread in the Old Trial forum.:biggrin:

imo

[Gilly]

Thanks for making the thread. Perhaps people who continue to discuss the past could start using it.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...d.php?t=356870

[GentleBreeze]

Thanks for making the thread. Perhaps people who continue to discuss the past could start using it.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...d.php?t=356870

Sounds sensible to me.

imo

[Gilly]

OMG four posts of complaining about the board started by Ms Breeze.
Please can we move on?

I wish they would at least tell us if the autopsy reports are going to be delayed again.

in my opinion

I'm not even going to count how many posts about past allegations. I believe someone kindly started a new thread for such discussions.

LA Times reported that the autopsy reports are delayed indefinately.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson31-2009jul31,0,899072.story

[on board!]

If you had a single man living in your neighborhood inviting neighbor kids (boys) in to share his bed or his room at night, would you approve? Would your neighbors approve? I don't think so. Well, it's no different with Mr Jackson now is it?

in my opinion

It depends on the character and spirit of the man. I wouldn't care what the neighbors think.

[aproudmom]

IIRC last week it was announced the autopsy would be delayed another week, which would be this week, no? This week there is no information on it being delayed again.....

Just silence.

in my opinion

I read it is not being released indefinitely due to a investigation..unless that changed:confused:

Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter told The Associated Press on Wednesday that despite plans to make the announcement this week, the results will be delayed further. Winter would not discuss the reasons for the latest hold-up in revealing what might have caused Jackson's death.

[on board!]

wow!! Wow!! Wow!!

I politely asked you a question.... and this is your reaction.

There's nothing inappropriate about children sleeping in the room of an adult. Inappropriate are the thoughts which turn just sleeping into evil actions. Biased thoughts.

For me the discussion ends at this point. My original intention was to post Pryor's words:

Pryor, the mother of Chris Tucker’s son, said she spent a lot of time with Michael’s accuser and his family and in a new interview, she has some harsh words for them.

""I don't know how they sleep at night… knowing that they accused someone who they called their friend… of the ugliest, most heinous thing you can say about a human being.

"It’s time for [the accuser] to finally stand up and do the right thing," she told Access Hollywood. 'He is an adult. He knows… he's always known that Michael never touched him, Michael never abused him.' Feeling betrayed, Pryor called the accuser’s 2003 claim that Michael Jackson molested him 'outrageous.'"
http://www.accesshollywood.com/azja-pryor-calls-for-michael-jacksons-2005-molestation-accuser-to-do-the-right-thing_article_20517

If this doesn't convince you nothing will do so. You will always stick to your concepts of inappropriateness......, without any reply I still have no idea why you think this way.

Bye!

[aproudmom]

Hi Cinder,

According to TMZ - MJ died in Dr. Murray's room but who knows?

What's with all those chairs in the room?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/31/michael-jackson-propofol-dr-conrad-murray-died-houston/

Jackson Spent Last Hours in Doctor's Bed

I am sorry but I did get a laugh out of that heading..guess doc shares his bed also even though I do not think he harmed any child it was just the heading..sorry I slapped myself already:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Not trying to be rude on board -- but 3 people have posted a link to the thread so you can discuss the trial and the old allegations to your heart's content. This is also per CW's instructions. This thread is to discuss current events and related events to MJ's death.

CW has shut this board down for this very reason so would appreciate it very much if you could take that to the other thread.

Thank you.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

Thank you IIRC CW warned about that weeks ago..

[aproudmom]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson31-2009jul31,0,899072.story

Release of Michael Jackson autopsy results postponed indefinitely
Court records indicate investigators are looking for evidence of communications between the performer's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, and other health practitioners.

[BOZGAL2]

You know I called it about the autopsy.
They do not have to release it at all and I believe it will be sealed.

There are many autopsies which are sealed for investigative purposes.

I really want to know but the investigation is more important. JMO

[GentleBreeze]

Nah - I'm staying right here. Won't even go there! LOL :ohmy:

Good. It seems very nice in here.:smile:

I wonder how much this painting will bring?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8187606.stm

Warhol's Jackson unveiled in O2

imo

[GentleBreeze]

The beginning of the last week of July they did say it would be announced this week. Some thought it was because Chief Bratton was on vacation.

The latter part of the week they announced it would not be released indefinitely and did not elaborate further.

For some reason I think this investigation may take a long time to complete and I don't think they are going to release the autopsy report until they know the shoe is about to drop. KWIM?

imo

[BOZGAL2]

Good. It seems very nice in here.:smile:

I wonder how much this painting will bring?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8187606.stm

Warhol's Jackson unveiled in O2

imo

WOWZERS

Brings back so many fond memories.
When I could actually dance and attempt the moonwalk.

[who_is_it]

Good. It seems very nice in here.:smile:

I wonder how much this painting will bring?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8187606.stm

Warhol's Jackson unveiled in O2

imo

Says the article:

"Comparable Warhol portraits fetch $17m (£10m) - but the recent death of Michael Jackson may up the price."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8187606.stm

[aproudmom]

Good. It seems very nice in here.:smile:

I wonder how much this painting will bring?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8187606.stm

Warhol's Jackson unveiled in O2

imo

OMG GB that looks like pictures my son does that is neat..I don't have the talent but bet my son could do one just like it but not be a Warhol..

[who_is_it]

You know I called it about the autopsy.
They do not have to release it at all and I believe it will be sealed.

There are many autopsies which are sealed for investigative purposes.

I really want to know but the investigation is more important. JMO

I wouldn't mind if the results will be sealed. To disclose the results just fuels more sensationalism of the "drug addict story" imo.

[GentleBreeze]

OMG GB that looks like pictures my son does that is neat..I don't have the talent but bet my son could do one just like it but not be a Warhol..

That is great mom. My son is also artistic.

Now this is a painting of MJ and painted by Warhol.........that is two huge draws. No telling how much it will go for to some private bidder. MJ had ardent fans all of the world and some of them have a lot of money.


imo

[VC2]

I am sorry I know it is noting to laugh about just read it and thought O Boy wonderful heading..hey we need a laugh every once in awhile I guess all the sadness we read and hear all the time..

I have not been on today so KJ wants another Autopsy?
She does and the quote on JVM was "it did not reveal what i wanted" or something like that.

I am thinking that it might not show heavy drug use apart from the already known diprivan and perhaps a small amount of demerol if that.

It is the only reason i can think of which explains her comments and also her belief of some sort of murder by those who were around him, keeping him drugged etc.

I mean if it showed loads of drugs then she could argue that he was not competent when he hired Branca et al back, she could also argue that he was being kept drugged by those she suspects and may want to sue. Yes we can say it was all MJ all the time, but from her perspective.

If he was relatively clean when he died then almost all her arguments go out the window. Since it seems be accurate that diprivan was part of the death picture, hardly as if it was "natural" anyway.

imo

[BOZGAL2]

Hi BOZ
was just getting ready to PM you..lol..can you please tape yourself doing the moonwalk I'd love to see that one..:biggrin:

You are a mess tonight. :tonguewag:
Back in the day I almost had it.
Now it would not be a pretty sight at all.

But I still feel the urge everytime I see MJ'S 2001 Billie Jean performance in NY.
Love to watch that man dance and sing. What a performer. :smile:

[GentleBreeze]

hey I used to be on here then just forgot all my info after a couple years with no computer..back when NG was still on boy seems like along time ago..anyway thanks to whoever posted that old thread..not that I care to go on it..:wink:

If this thread stays this nice I may have to give it gold stars and I never rate threads.:biggrin:

Mom, didn't you find a link to some pictures of the Holmby mansion that you thought were taken by the Realtor and then after MJ moved in?

Or am I dreaming? lol

imo

[BOZGAL2]

I believe the Diprivan would show up in tissue samples. Also I would think they would be able to run some sort of test on any fresh injection sites. I feel sure these tests were run since it was reported a bottle of Diprivan was found at the scene. IIRC JMO

[GentleBreeze]

You are a mess tonight. :tonguewag:
Back in the day I almost had it.
Now it would not be a pretty sight at all.

But I still feel the urge everytime I see MJ'S 2001 Billie Jean performance in NY.
Love to watch that man dance and sing. What a performer. :smile:

Well shhhh, dont tell anyone, but I was doing the Moonwalk in my dining room this week. LOL! No one was here at the time but me and my doggy. :smile:

[aproudmom]

That is great mom. My son is also artistic.

Now this is a painting of MJ and painted by Warhol.........that is two huge draws. No telling how much it will go for to some private bidder. MJ had ardent fans all of the world and some of them have a lot of money.


imo

o I know I had Ty come and look at it he loves Warhol..bet that is worth some big bucks..

[GentleBreeze]

I believe the Diprivan would show up in tissue samples. Also I would think they would be able to run some sort of test on any fresh injection sites. I feel sure these tests were run since it was reported a bottle of Diprivan was found at the scene. IIRC JMO

You know at first we were led to believe that it may not be found but all the highly respected pathologists that have spoken out on tv have disagreed and said it can be found.

imo

[CinderL.]

I am just curious.....does anyone know if the Los Angeles house came furnished?

[who_is_it]

It's a great picture of him. That's the face I liked the best.

Me, too. He looked in his "Thriller" times imo... but also in his last days better than in the 90s imo.

[retiredcop]

Well shhhh, dont tell anyone, but I was doing the Moonwalk in my dining room this week. LOL! No one was here at the time but me and my doggy. :smile:

TeeHeeHee shhhhhhh don't tell anyone. TeeHeeHee

in my opinion

[aproudmom]

It's a great picture of him. That's the face I liked the best.

the face? did he have more than 1 or you mean that is when you thought he looked his best..

[who_is_it]

"story" ?? His being a drug addict is a fact. A very sad fact.

Yes, for sure it's a fact. I just don't like the way some media report about it (for example TMZ: "riddled with needles").

[who_is_it]

Well shhhh, dont tell anyone, but I was doing the Moonwalk in my dining room this week. LOL! No one was here at the time but me and my doggy. :smile:

Here are instructions how to do the "Thriller" dance moves:

http://www.tess-impersonates-mj.com/school.htm

Sadly I tried this for the first time ever one week before his death. (But I have to say: I failed.) Looks simple but is quite difficult. One would also need big mirrors like in a dance studio what I don't have at home.

[aproudmom]

I am just curious.....does anyone know if the Los Angeles house came furnished?

you know what I have no clue but sure if a nice house

[GentleBreeze]

I am just curious.....does anyone know if the Los Angeles house came furnished?

I would think it came with furniture. It would be sort of foolish for him to load it full of his own furniture and possessions when he would be going to London for 9 months.

All of his possessions are probably either at his mother's compound or in a large storage area.

imo

[aproudmom]

I meant it was the face I liked before the extreme plastic surgery began. IMO In this pic, he simply had his nose done...at the most twice.

I know I just hate how the media says the many faces of MJ he was born with 1 and died with 1 it was the plastic surgery that made him look different..I am not sure who he went to but they need to retire if it was the same one..JMO

[GentleBreeze]

you know what I have no clue but sure if a nice house

I loved it. So refined and elegant.

I really like the wide open hall entrance and then what is supposed to be MJs bedroom. I have noticed the photos never lets you see the full entire room at one time. They probably just took a photo of part of it.

imo

[retiredcop]

I would think it came with furniture. It would be sort of foolish for him to load it full of his own furniture and possessions when he would be going to London for 9 months.

All of his possessions are probably either at his mother's compound or in a large storage area.

imo

I would think it would have to come furnished. Since he moved around so much, he probably had no furniture to speak of.

in my opinion

[BOZGAL2]

Well shhhh, dont tell anyone, but I was doing the Moonwalk in my dining room this week. LOL! No one was here at the time but me and my doggy. :smile:

Even us baby boomers have to cut a rug now and then. :wink:

Seriously MJ could move like nobody's business.
I had heard Fred Astaire said he was the greatest dancer of all time. Of course I cannot find the quote. But coming from FA means something. JMO

[aproudmom]

I would think it came with furniture. It would be sort of foolish for him to load it full of his own furniture and possessions when he would be going to London for 9 months.

All of his possessions are probably either at his mother's compound or in a large storage area.

imo

GB IIRC they only had 2 u-hauls so I think your right..

[Emerald]

You know I called it about the autopsy.
They do not have to release it at all and I believe it will be sealed.

There are many autopsies which are sealed for investigative purposes.

I really want to know but the investigation is more important. JMO


Does that mean the cause of death has been determined?

JMO.... if it had anything to do with someone intentionally setting out to murder MJ, we would be hearing from Joe and LaToya. It is also JMO that the autopsy indicated drugs ingested by MJ's own hand. That does not preclude any drugs possibly administered by someone else.

Jermaine will be Larry King's guest for the full hour on Friday 8/07.

[retiredcop]

IIRC he has storage places he rented all over the country. There was one in NJ...remember the guy listed the stuff online and planned on auctioning it off after he failed to pay the bill? DD went there and picked through it.

Yes I remember that and there was skin bleach found. There was something else very gross found. I remember seeing that on TV.

in my opinion

[GentleBreeze]

Here are instructions how to do the "Thriller" dance moves:

http://www.tess-impersonates-mj.com/school.htm

Sadly I tried this for the first time ever one week before his death. (But I have to say: I failed.) Looks simple but is quite difficult. One would also need big mirrors like in a dance studio what I don't have at home.

I think one of the coolest things I saw MJ do is when he would take a photo that looked like he barely touched the ground. Just the tips of his shoes would be on the floor. Amazing and he did it with such ease.

imo

[BOZGAL2]

There's a link on one of these threads that says it shows up in hair follicles and the coarser the hair the better so hopefully it did show up.

I was wondering however if the person who conducted the private autopsy report even looked for it. They had the results back the following week and it was a few days before Lee reported it. :confused:

Great point.
I had forgot about the hair testing.

I would think they would have looked for it since it was found at the scene.

[BOZGAL2]

Does that mean the cause of death has been determined?

JMO.... if it had anything to do with someone intentionally setting out to murder MJ, we would be hearing from Joe and LaToya. It is also JMO that the autopsy indicated drugs ingested by MJ's own hand. That does not preclude any drugs possibly administered by someone else.

Jermaine will be Larry King's guest for the full hour on Friday 8/07.

I think its safe to say the COD is cardiac arrest.
What caused it is another thing. JMO

[GentleBreeze]

Yes I remember that and there was skin bleach found. There was something else very gross found. I remember seeing that on TV.

in my opinion

What is gross about skin ointment being found?:confused:

[aproudmom]

I loved it. So refined and elegant.

I really like the wide open hall entrance and then what is supposed to be MJs bedroom. I have noticed the photos never lets you see the full entire room at one time. They probably just took a photo of part of it.

imo

omg I love what we saw..I remember they had a video of it when it was up for sale but did not show it all..I read someone is buying it or renting it is it a clothing designer friend of his..I am almost sure I seen that reported..also do you or anyone know how long he had been in California I know he had been out of the country for some time why did he come back? just wondering why they were not rehearsing at the O2..

[GentleBreeze]

I think its safe to say the COD is cardiac arrest.
What caused it is another thing. JMO

I agree.

imo

[retiredcop]

here's the link

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20040309-0146-jacksonmemorabilia.html

ASBURY PARK, N.J. – Gold-trimmed costumes, metal-studded shinguards and other memorabilia of pop icon Michael Jackson and his family sat covertly in a warehouse in this downtrodden city for the past 18 months.

The massive collection, including a sketch of a boy, celebrity letters and music awards, was the prize from a lengthy legal battle waged against the Jacksons by a one-time business associate.

Henry V. Vaccaro Sr., a 63-year-old construction company owner, announced he had sold the trove this week even as he supervised its packing. He would not reveal the name or nationality of the buyer, although he said the man will display the collection in Europe and Japan. Vaccaro also would not reveal its sales price, but indicated it exceeded $1.4 million.

I would sure like to see the video of DD going through there.

in my opinion

[GentleBreeze]

omg I love what we saw..I remember they had a video of it when it was up for sale but did not show it all..I read someone is buying it or renting it is it a clothing designer friend of his..I am almost sure I seen that reported..also do you or anyone know how long he had been in California I know he had been out of the country for some time why did he come back? just wondering why they were not rehearsing at the O2..

You are right. The owner of the home has a business partner. They both knew MJ well and the other guy, who I think lives in London, said he plans to buy the Holmby mansion and make it into a memorial site for MJs fans to come.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

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if its so bad here, why r u here

I like it here on THIS thread.:smile:

imo

[CinderL.]

I would think it would have to come furnished. Since he moved around so much, he probably had no furniture to speak of.

in my opinion

Duh, that makes sense.

[GentleBreeze]

She's talking about the soiled underwear. remember?

No telling what can be found in a storage unit.

I didn't know the media had even discovered where his storage unit is or even if he has one. How did I miss that. I thought I had kept up with everything in the past few weeks.

imo

[aproudmom]

I think its safe to say the COD is cardiac arrest.
What caused it is another thing. JMO

ITA BOZ I think this is harder because of the drug that a doctor should not have been giving him at home with out proper equipment IMO it should never be given in a home but not sure how it works when it is not on the DEA list...I am going out on a limb and say what ever he took as in pills did not kill him it was the diprivan..jmo

[flipflop]

If this thread stays this nice I may have to give it gold stars and I never rate threads.:biggrin:

Mom, didn't you find a link to some pictures of the Holmby mansion that you thought were taken by the Realtor and then after MJ moved in?

Or am I dreaming? lol

imo


Here are some pictures of the Holmby Hills Mansion but it doesnt say when they are taken.

http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/49053/inside-michael-jacksons-holmby-hills-home--photos

[CinderL.]

You are right. The owner of the home has a business partner. They both knew MJ well and the other guy, who I think lives in London, said he plans to buy the Holmby mansion and make it into a memorial site for MJs fans to come.

imo

Good luck with that. IMO never will happen. Holmby Hills would never allow that. Can you imagine what the neighbors would have to say. YIKES. :scared:

[GentleBreeze]

New thread started :wink:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13343693#post13343693

Sure seems some have let you all alone penfold even after you started a nice thread for them to discuss old stuff.:sad:

imo

[who_is_it]

I think one of the coolest things I saw MJ do is when he would take a photo that looked like he barely touched the ground. Just the tips of his shoes would be on the floor. Amazing and he did it with such ease.

imo

There's another really cool move which I've recently saw in a tribute magazine: He did a 45 degree lean (leaned forward beyond his center of gravity).

Randy Philipps said Michael had worked on a NEW revolutionary dance move for the upcoming tour -- something comparable to the moonwalk.

I log out. See you...

:seeya:

[retiredcop]

No telling what can be found in a storage unit.

I didn't know the media had even discovered where his storage unit is or even if he has one. How did I miss that. I thought I had kept up with everything in the past few weeks.

imo

Size small fruit of the loomes boys under ware soiled with number two. DD did the broadcast. Ugh!!

[Gilly]

I would sure like to see the video of DD going through there.

in my opinion

As that was back in 2004, you might find someone in the old allegations thread that could find a link for you.

The thread has been linked to quite a few times today, but here it is again so you don't have to look for it:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

[GentleBreeze]

Good luck with that. IMO never will happen. Holmby Hills would never allow that. Can you imagine what the neighbors would have to say. YIKES. :scared:

I would think there are other grand homes there that tourist go and see. Surely this is not the only one.

im

[CinderL.]

Sure seems some have let you all alone penfold even after you started a nice thread for them to discuss old stuff.:sad:

imo

I am sorry Gentle, but is there a reason you keep bring up this other topic?

[retiredcop]

Sure seems some have let you all alone penfold even after you started a nice thread for them to discuss old stuff.:sad:

imo

This is another tribute thread? I thought there was already one here. All that is being discussed is movies and songs ect.

in my opinion

[Gilly]

No telling what can be found in a storage unit.

I didn't know the media had even discovered where his storage unit is or even if he has one. How did I miss that. I thought I had kept up with everything in the past few weeks.

imo

Nice one! Some people are just not getting it, the old allegations thread is here:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

[daniel green]

There's another really cool move which I've recently saw in a tribute magazine: He did a 45 degree lean (leaned forward beyond his center of gravity).

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I actually watched a show on either MTV of Vh1 a long time ago where they showed how the shoes were attached to the floor in order to do that move. They actually showed MJ and the other dancers doing it.

[CinderL.]

I would think there are other grand homes there that tourist go and see. Surely this is not the only one.

im

Drive by, not tour inside.

[GentleBreeze]

Size small fruit of the loomes boys under ware soiled with number two. DD did the broadcast. Ugh!!

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

[daniel green]

I would think there are other grand homes there that tourist go and see. Surely this is not the only one.

im

Um, none, not there.

And, for what it is worth, I find that over the top decoration (how many swags can go over everything???????) just dreadful. And how horrible unkid friendly, to boot.

[daniel green]

On ET they showed the upcoming People mag with all the kids who live at KJ's. :scared: Like 11 or something? Plus Randy/Jermaine's ex.

Yikes.

[retiredcop]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356870

This is the daily thread and I will post here if I chose to. I will not be told where I can post by you.

in my opinion

[aproudmom]

Here...this is something rather ironic....

Vaccaro had a warehouse full of memorabilia from Jackson family members that included gold-trimmed costumes, financial documents, letters, awards and one of Michael Jackson's first outfits worn with the Jackson 5.

At one point, Vaccaro's lawyer, Edgar Pease III, alleged the items also included gold records and personal items including skin bleach, soiled underwear, sexual videotapes, sexual paraphernalia and a hand-drawn picture by Jackson of a 7-year-old boy.

A lawyer for Jackson at the time said the singer never claimed the bleach, sexual materials, underwear or picture were his.

http://cbs5.com/entertainment/Michael.Jackson.New.2.261867.html

Yet..later MJ filed a lawsuit to sue the guy for 10 million.

A judge tossed out Michael Jackson's $10 million lawsuit against a New Jersey man over memorabilia the pop star claimed had been stolen


LETS BE FAIR now now

The singer sued, saying some of the items still belonged to him and Vaccaro only had a right to property belonging to his brothers, Tito and Jermaine, and their parents. He got a court order barring Vaccaro from displaying or selling the items until the case was resolved.

Vaccaro had a warehouse full of memorabilia from Jackson family members

[Gilly]

I actually watched a show on either MTV of Vh1 a long time ago where they showed how the shoes were attached to the floor in order to do that move. They actually showed MJ and the other dancers doing it.


Here is a link to how it was done:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/MichaelJackson/story?id=7941951&page=1

Very cool move.

[daniel green]

That is great mom. My son is also artistic.

Now this is a painting of MJ and painted by Warhol.........that is two huge draws. No telling how much it will go for to some private bidder. MJ had ardent fans all of the world and some of them have a lot of money.


imo

Why on earth would his family be having some giant yard sale??????? Why not keep that? Some reason they need to sell their son's stuff?????

[retiredcop]

On ET they showed the upcoming People mag with all the kids who live at KJ's. :scared: Like 11 or something? Plus Randy/Jermaine's ex.

Yikes.

I had posted about that before. Those children will have no space of their own. I believe there are only 5 bedrooms in that house.

in my opinion

[GentleBreeze]

This is another tribute thread? I thought there was already one here. All that is being discussed is movies and songs ect.

in my opinion

No, this is the MJ board where the discussion is to be about current issues such as MJs death, Will, new songs, finances, assets, gains and the investigation into the death of MJ, etc.

CW said for those who want to discuss past issues then they should set up a thread in the Old Trial cases. Surely you have already found that thread haven't you?

imo

[BOZGAL2]

I would sure like to see the video of DD going through there.

in my opinion

Try her website.
It might be available there.
Just trying to help. :smile:

[daniel green]

I had posted about that before. Those children will have no space of their own. I believe there are only 5 bedrooms in that house.

in my opinion

Are you kidding me?? Only 5 bedrooms and all those kids and family members? Because Ribby (sp) is living there too??? :scared:

[aproudmom]

On ET they showed the upcoming People mag with all the kids who live at KJ's. :scared: Like 11 or something? Plus Randy/Jermaine's ex.

Yikes.

really o how sweet..I love big familys if it was up to me I would have my whole family living with me..

[daniel green]

I have a good idea. Let's be big boys and girls and leave the moderating to CW and just keep it civil and per TOS. :wink:

[Gilly]

No one was discussing old allegations. I was talking about his stuff and where much of it was stored.

There isn't a thread for all things positive, fawning over MJ's career, music, face, charitable contributions, his taste in decorations, his house, etc...

The above things are also ALL OFF TOPIC!

Yes where it was stored in 2004 according to your link.

Keep your shouting to yourself thank you.

[retiredcop]

Are you kidding me?? Only 5 bedrooms and all those kids and family members? Because Ribby (sp) is living there too??? :scared:

Well it does have 7 bathrooms.

in my opinion

[CinderL.]

Are you kidding me?? Only 5 bedrooms and all those kids and family members? Because Ribby (sp) is living there too??? :scared:


And the Omar B guy, that is supposedly MJ's mysterious son. That is sure a house full.

[daniel green]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b138043_no_third_autopsy_sliced_diced_jackson.html

[GentleBreeze]

Why on earth would his family be having some giant yard sale??????? Why not keep that? Some reason they need to sell their son's stuff?????

It is not up to them. The co-administrators will decide what is kept and sold. I don't know if MJ owned this painting or if Warhol had it in his collection. Maybe the proceeds will go to charity.

They certain cannot keep all of his vast collectibles. Imo they will get with the family, especially the children and see what they really want to keep.

imo

[CinderL.]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b138043_no_third_autopsy_sliced_diced_jackson.html

Well, thank goodness, now maybe they can bury the man.

[VC2]

There's another really cool move which I've recently saw in a tribute magazine: He did a 45 degree lean (leaned forward beyond his center of gravity).

Randy Philipps said Michael had worked on a NEW revolutionary dance move for the upcoming tour -- something comparable to the moonwalk.

I log out. See you...

:seeya:

The 45 degree smooth criminal lean was partially due to a patented shoe/stage design. The link was posted somewhere here, with the patent design, absolutely brilliant. If someone wants to google it, iirc it had smooth criminal in the name.

[CinderL.]

It is not up to them. The co-administrators will decide what is kept and sold. I don't know if MJ owned this painting or if Warhol had it in his collection. Maybe the proceeds will go to charity.

They certain cannot keep all of his vast collectibles. Imo they will get with the family, especially the children and see what they really want to keep.

imo

Didn't someone just have a big auction of a ton of his things? I know I looked at the auction books. There was a lot of his memorabilia there.

[daniel green]

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They certain cannot keep all of his vast collectibles. Imo they will get with the family, especially the children and see what they really want to keep.

imo

I find this kind of speculation truly ridiculous.

[CinderL.]

Maybe that's why Katherine was spotted shopping at Target for sleping bags?

Yes, she was. They may have to do some adding on.

[daniel green]

Rebbie! ROFLMAO!!!!

I wish my nick name was Ribby;)

I could not remember her name to save my life. :blushing:

They showed the house on ET and said People is calling it Hotel for Kids.

I had no idea it was such a small place.

[retiredcop]

Maybe that's why Katherine was spotted shopping at Target for sleping bags?

Yes, I don't think they had a bed to sleep in.

in my opinion

[daniel green]

Maybe that's why Katherine was spotted shopping at Target for sleping bags?

Ack! :scared:

I guess the ridiculous suppositions about the Jacksons hightailing a moving van over to the rented house because of KJ getting the kids' beds was just wrong. Where on earth would they even PUT extra beds??? :confused:

[CinderL.]

WOW! From your link


Meanwhile, in other Jackson developments, Rolling Stone reports that estate lawyers are gearing up to send formal requests to sister La Toya to retrieve computer hard drives she lifted from her brother's home in the wake of his death.

According to Frank DiLeo, the late singer's manager, more than 100 songs recorded but never released by Jackson were housed on the hard drives, with the potentially lucrative tunes spanning the decades. Per DiLeo, some of the songs were recorded circa Jackson's peak Bad and Thriller days, while others were much recent and the result of collaborations with will.i.am, Akon and Ne Yo.

The lawyers want to retrieve the hard drives so their contents can be properly logged.



How resourceful that LaToya is...removing his hard drives.... this family never ceases to amaze me. imo


Wow, that is something. I can't believe she thought to do that. Well, maybe I can.:ohmy:

[daniel green]

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How resourceful that LaToya is...removing his hard drives.... this family never ceases to amaze me. imo

Isn't that simply mind-blowing? :scared:

[daniel green]

Yes, she was. They may have to do some adding on.

But the actual grounds looked too small to make much of an addition.

[CinderL.]

Yes, I don't think they had a bed to sleep in.

in my opinion

Maybe quite soon they will be house hunting.