Specter, Sebelius Greeted With Boos Over Healthcare

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Associated Press --ALL RIGHTS:


Video at link:


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_health_care_specter/2009/08/03/243321.html


I hope more and more people will question this bill-- if not for its content but for the lack of time spent getting it on the table. Just to quick IMO to help anyone.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Another view--- video quality seems poor though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz7tHAtjteI

[flareon]

I think this will be happening a lot and it is about time.

Many people don't pay attention to these wild spenders because they don't think it will affect them. People know this is going to affect them and not in a good way.

[Barbara2]

yep, some fake boo's from people with an agenda, don't surprise me none

It's not fake boos. It would be great if they could answer three simple questions:

What is it?
How much is it going to cost?
How are we going to pay for it?


If I could get honest answers to those three questions, I would be on board.

[Brentwood]

Rent-A-Mobs. So upstanding. Hmmmm.

[Barbara2]

Rent-A-Mobs. So upstanding. Hmmmm.

You think that was ACORN????

[watcher2005]

yep, some fake boo's from people with an agenda, don't surprise me none

Who boos without an agenda besides ghosts?

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

yep, some fake boo's from people with an agenda, don't surprise me none

Does not sound fake to me. Perhaps you would enlighten me--- where is this money coming from?? Seriously given the state of the economy?


Feds see biggest tax revenue drop since 1932 more at link below:

Existing programs are feeling the pinch, how are we to have yet another?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32275055/ns/politics-more_politics

[flareon]

Wow I saw this on the news. Sibelius looked sooo uncomfortable and the boos were loud.

imo

I know. This must be quite a shock for them. They are used to pushing their nonsense through and people were kind of apathetic.

Now they may have to actually defend their policies, which I doubt whether they can.

What would be really good is if people acquaint themselves with their silly talking points and show displeasure whenever they launch into a talking point instead of giving a concise answer.

[flareon]

Does not sound fake to me. Perhaps you would enlighten me--- where is this money coming from?? Seriously given the state of the economy?


Feds see biggest tax revenue drop since 1932 more at link below:

Existing programs are feeling the pinch, how are we to have yet another?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32275055/ns/politics-more_politics

You know that and most sensible people know that, but they will still try to float the nonsense that savings and taxing the rich will cover all of the additional costs.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Rent-A-Mobs. So upstanding. Hmmmm.

:rolleyes:

LOL How funny when it is girls and woman fainting at the sight of Obama it is because he has “rock star like” qualities..

When it is ordinary citizens wondering where the money will come from for social programs (some are failing NOW and or feeling the pinch) it is rent a mobs?

You do not think that honest to goodness people across this nation can’t read the Social Security is to be out of money sooner than expected this year, mass transit projects are at risk and KNOW that the last time the government's revenues were this bleak, the year was 1932 in the midst of the Depression.

Where is the money coming from? I’ve yet to hear an answer that allows me to rest at peace.

Social Security is in danger of running out of money earlier than the government projected just a few months ago. Highway, mass transit and airport projects are at risk because fuel and industry taxes are declining.

The national debt already exceeds $11 trillion. And bills just completed by the House would boost domestic agencies' spending by 11 percent in 2010 and military spending by 4 percent.

More at link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32275055/ns/politics-more_politics

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

I thought the video was at the link? was that it?

No, I am not sure what happened...hold on while I find it again.

[Brentwood]

Rent-A-Mobs are dirty pool. Not surprising. Ugly is as ugly does.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

Okay I looked I am not sure what happened to the first one...apologies.

This is the only other one I could find, it links to a Fox news video though---


http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=7752706&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

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the cost will be cheaper because you take away those that are in it for the money, we already have Medicare and Medicare, those are the people that need to use insurance the most, the ones insurance companies do not want, so of course that plan is costly, it would not cost that much more to cover everyone and it woudl be cheaper then the current system

I think the cost to the people is like .05% in taxes, and that goes up for those making over 350k - way cheaper then what we pay today, and if you want to keep paying for that higher private care you can and get a tax right off for .05% worth of what you pay today, the same amount you would of payed in taxes


isn't it funny how the insurance companies had no problem pawning off coverage of those in America that needed insurance more then anyone, the disabled and the elderly, but when it comes to the healthy, they will fight tooth and nail to keep them





But the social programs we have in place now are failing, at risk of failing or in need of an infusion of money to have them up and running at just 80 percent. I do not see where more taxes will come from and how much more it will help. Where will we get this money to start this program? I guess I was not clear, sorry.

I keep seeing people say this program ( lets say endangered animals) will only be about a 1 percent tax increase, and the next will only be a 2 percent tax increase... How many one and two percent increases can we afford to pay? Pretty soon out taxes will be over 50 percent.

[flareon]

But the social programs we have in place now are failing, at risk of failing or in need of an infusion of money to have them up and running at just 80 percent. I do not see where more taxes will come from and how much more it will help. Where will we get this money to start this program? I guess I was not clear, sorry.

I keep seeing people say this program ( lets say endangered animals) will only be about a 1 percent tax increase, and the next will only be a 2 percent tax increase... How many one and two percent increases can we afford to pay? Pretty soon out taxes will be over 50 percent.

I know. It gets old after awhile. They must think people have short memories and are unable to look at the totals.

It is also what they are doing with the deficit/debt. A billion here, a billion there and pretty soon we are talking about real money.

[Brat2002]

yep, some fake boo's from people with an agenda, don't surprise me none

I'll copy the typical response I always get and ask you for links.

[ABC]

specter is basically a republican that felt his party has become to far fanatically right, he just quit republicans after many many years of being a republican and even he gets that we need this

In my opinion, the Dems are welcome to Spector and his defeat in 2010.
David Horowitz is my hero.

[Brat2002]

You think that was ACORN????

I thought ACORN invented rent-a-mobs. After seeing the videos of rowdy mobs of liberals throwing chairs through windows where a Republican was trying to speak, obviously not caring if anyone was hurt, and the sight of the Black Panther groups wielding their clubs at the polling places, I can't believe people are feigning outrage over simple booing.

If what I've been hearing is any example, those boos were real and those people have every right to let their voices be heard. The louder, the better, since this administration seems to be ignoring the fact that the majority of us are happy with what we have and have no desire for the government to take over health care. Even some of my Democrat friends are getting worried about what this administration is doing. Funny how some of these Dems overreact when met with strong opposition from their constituents. They better get used to it or listen to the people and change course.

IMO

[ABC]

most of the money spent to date has been cleaning up the mess of the last administration
Okay, I'll bite. What mess??? What money???

[flareon]

I thought ACORN invented rent-a-mobs. After seeing the videos of rowdy mobs of liberals throwing chairs through windows where a Republican was trying to speak, obviously not caring if anyone was hurt, and the sight of the Black Panther groups wielding their clubs at the polling places, I can't believe people are feigning outrage over simple booing.

If what I've been hearing is any example, those boos were real and those people have every right to let their voices be heard. The louder, the better, since this administration seems to be ignoring the fact that the majority of us are happy with what we have and have no desire for the government to take over health care. Even some of my Democrat friends are getting worried about what this administration is doing. Funny how some of these Dems overreact when met with strong opposition from their constituents. They better get used to it or listen to the people and change course.

IMO

Absolutely. And if you listen to the cheers, they come when one of the people are making a point against the plan.

[ABC]

the economy, the war, two big ones off the top of my head, not to mention interest due on all the previous administration borrowed

when Bush past the country off to Obama it was a sinking ship
"past the country off.......". The job that Obama ran two years to win in the GE? That past the country off???? The economy started to tank in Dec, 07 which would be eleven months after the Dems took over the Congress. I think the Dems did it. The war is truely sad and I want the Troops home yesterday but George W. was trying to protect us from Terrorist and for sure never apologized to other countries for America:ohmy::ohmy:

[ABC]

so much to address in one post

bush was attacking iraq, that had nothing to do with 911 :(

and democrats did not have full control of congress or the house in 2007, they had a majority in congress, but not veto proof

bush did though have plenty of reason to apologize, Obama had to do it for him when he took office - though Bush did in the end Apologize to the American people sort of


Harry Reid (D) became the MAJORITY Leader of the Senate and Nancy Pelosi (D) became the Speaker of the House on January, 20th, 2007. Now if that ain't a Majority Party, what is?????? We will see how Americans respond to the apologies by Obama for America starting in 2010.

[Freedom1]

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the cost will be cheaper because you take away those that are in it for the money, we already have Medicare and Medicare, those are the people that need to use insurance the most, the ones insurance companies do not want, so of course that plan is costly, it would not cost that much more to cover everyone and it woudl be cheaper then the current system

I think the cost to the people is like .05% in taxes, and that goes up for those making over 350k - way cheaper then what we pay today, and if you want to keep paying for that higher private care you can and get a tax right off for .05% worth of what you pay today, the same amount you would of payed in taxes


isn't it funny how the insurance companies had no problem pawning off coverage of those in America that needed insurance more then anyone, the disabled and the elderly, but when it comes to the healthy, they will fight tooth and nail to keep them

The cost will be cheaper? According to who? Not the CBO. I'd like to see a link supporting your claim that health care will be cheaper.

[ABC]

majority doesn't mean you have full control, wasn't it like majority by 1 person or something like that, far from full control, not to mention a president that had the final word on anything

Who said "full controll"? A Majority is a majority is a majority and the economy started going into the dumpster eleven months after the Dems took over the Congress on January 20, 2007. Final word from the President? The Dems did not even test the waters but in any event, they have Full Control now with their fillibuster proof 60 Senators and can't pass their Health Plan. :ohmy::ohmy:

[ABC]

and you say democrats could of done anything with Bush as president and without a fillibuster proof 60 Senators? sad that you try to pawn off Bush's failed policies on democrats, democrats were not the ones to start the war with Iraq, not the ones to give huge tax cuts to the rich, Bush did not invest in this country, he did not invest in infrastructure and he did not address foreign outsourcing, republicans refused to admit we had a problem until it was too late
Sadly, I think the 110th Democratic Majority Congress was more interested in spending the people's money and whats the hold up now with their vast majority in the House and Senate. They even have their own guy in the White House. Whats the state of the infrastructure now? :sad::sad:

[Barbara2]

and you say democrats could of done anything with Bush as president and without a fillibuster proof 60 Senators? sad that you try to pawn off Bush's failed policies on democrats, democrats were not the ones to start the war with Iraq, not the ones to give huge tax cuts to the rich, Bush did not invest in this country, he did not invest in infrastructure and he did not address foreign outsourcing, republicans refused to admit we had a problem until it was too late, what is it that you believe democrats could do while bush was president to address his mess, the reasons republicans were voted out in 2007 was because republicans were destroying this country

You need to go back and look at the voting on the war and on the tax cuts before you can say that "democrats were not the ones". IMO

[flareon]

You need to go back and look at the voting on the war and on the tax cuts before you can say that "democrats were not the ones". IMO

That's the truth and even then they tried to get out of the responsibility for their vote by saying they weren't given the information.