7/27, 7/28

[all4one]

Daily thread.

[happygert]

Daily thread.

Hi just was about to post on other thread and it was closed..

Reading M&M complaint against DC.. does anyone know when the court will hear this motion? or When court will hear the motion for c&g to finish their depo's? I know bc imo pulled a fast one on the court when the last hearing was to take place...Still like to know how someone in a wheelchair throws their back out :wink:. c & g can pull all the stunts they want but it's not going to work.. Mr. Morgan will not just let it go.. Too bad the LE and D.A's office wasn't a little more like MR.MORGAN.. IMO .. c& g have gotten away with a alot.. hindering, destroying evidence, lying, giving FBI wrong hair brush, etc.. if that had happened here they would have already been arrested for that..IMO Mr. Morgan should sue them for putting it out on national TV that it was ZFG.. When they knew dang well that their was no nanny from get go..

A friend of mine was in a wheel chair from time he was 15 until he passed away in Jan.. never once did he ever throw his back out..

[Postergeist]

Mornin' All!

has this already been posted?

Read defense deposition of officer who took Casey Anthony to infirmary after Caylee’s body found
July 26, 6:57 PM

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d26-Read-defense-deposition-of-officer-who-took-Casey-Anthony-to-infirmary-after-Caylees-body-found

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Imperfect4
I came across this link: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19803207/detail.html

It's John Morgan's response to Dominick Casey's response to his subpoena in the civil case. I hadn't seen it before, or didn't take the time to read it.

It's a very entertaining read.

I John Morgan.

It is a well thoughtout and presented response. Has anyone seen or heard from/of DCasey in the last six months or so? He seems to not only have been a "no-show" at his Morgan depo, he is now on his second attorney.

[Postergeist]

It is a well thoughtout and presented response. Has anyone seen or heard from/of DCasey in the last six months or so? He seems to not only have been a "no-show" at his Morgan depo, he is now on his second attorney.

he seems to be under the radar (or maybe at the library- reading George Orwell's Animal Farm perhaps?) however, a psychic might tell us what's up with DC.

:closedeyes:

I had to chuckle at Baez's Q to the sgt. ...you wouldn’t speculate or give any answers that are imaginary …

and he represents the princess of all imaginary answers :laugh:

[Sun]

Reading M&M complaint against DC.. does anyone know when the court will hear this motion? or When court will hear the motion for c&g to finish their depo's? -snipped-..

Morgan earlier got a court date of Sept 9th, but it didn't saw just what would be presented at that time. I also read that Kasen got a Sept court date to argue his dismissal/stay motion. And, these are the latest two entries on the Clerk of Courts records.

[Sun]

Does anyone remember the approx date that Baex checked himself into the hospital..... I'm thinking that it was back in January/Feb, but just haven't done the searching to find the exact dates that he was there. I was searching around on the Clerk of Courts records, and found some interesting stuff (maybe)... if it is him. Anyone know what Baez's wife's name is?

[Postergeist]

Here's an article that was posted 1 Year Ago Today about the case-

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/910783/still_missing_caylee_anthony_mom_a.html?cat=17

Still Missing Caylee Anthony, Mom a Little Confused
July 27, 2008 by Jane Vee

Every time I turn the news on there is something going on with the Anthony family. I am starting to think the whole family is in on it and it is all a publicity stunt.

[Katt2]

Does anyone remember the approx date that Baex checked himself into the hospital..... I'm thinking that it was back in January/Feb, but just haven't done the searching to find the exact dates that he was there. I was searching around on the Clerk of Courts records, and found some interesting stuff (maybe)... if it is him. Anyone know what Baez's wife's name is?


It was February 17th.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-baez-casey-caylee-hospital-021709,0,108104.story

[Bala]

Does anyone remember the approx date that Baex checked himself into the hospital..... I'm thinking that it was back in January/Feb, but just haven't done the searching to find the exact dates that he was there. I was searching around on the Clerk of Courts records, and found some interesting stuff (maybe)... if it is him. Anyone know what Baez's wife's name is?

I believe her name is Lorena.

[Pruddennce]

Does anyone remember the approx date that Baex checked himself into the hospital..... I'm thinking that it was back in January/Feb, but just haven't done the searching to find the exact dates that he was there. I was searching around on the Clerk of Courts records, and found some interesting stuff (maybe)... if it is him. Anyone know what Baez's wife's name is?

Sun, February 13, 09

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/02/jose-baez-in-hospital-over-wee.html

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[desmom]

Hi just was about to post on other thread and it was closed..

Reading M&M complaint against DC.. does anyone know when the court will hear this motion? or When court will hear the motion for c&g to finish their depo's? I know bc imo pulled a fast one on the court when the last hearing was to take place...Still like to know how someone in a wheelchair throws their back out :wink:. c & g can pull all the stunts they want but it's not going to work.. Mr. Morgan will not just let it go.. Too bad the LE and D.A's office wasn't a little more like MR.MORGAN.. IMO .. c& g have gotten away with a alot.. hindering, destroying evidence, lying, giving FBI wrong hair brush, etc.. if that had happened here they would have already been arrested for that..IMO Mr. Morgan should sue them for putting it out on national TV that it was ZFG.. When they knew dang well that their was no nanny from get go..

A friend of mine was in a wheel chair from time he was 15 until he passed away in Jan.. never once did he ever throw his back out..


I am sorry to hear of your friend's passing. He must have been lucky because neck, back, shoulder strain and pressure sores are not unusual in wheel chair users.

IIRC, the he had thrown his back out statement was made by Keith Mitnik from Morgan & Morgan, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez. IMO, Mr. Mitnik was being polite by not going into the details of Mr. Conway's illness in front of the media cameras.

jmo

[Postergeist]

July 27 (2008) – Casey offers to work with the FBI to make a composite sketch of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
"She's [Casey] been wanting to cooperate with authorities; she just doesn't trust the local authorities. She would be willing to speak with the FBI," Cindy Anthony tells WESH.com.

Nearly 200 people attend a vigil at the Anthony family home to honor Caylee.


http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/timeline/july22-july27/july22-july27.html

(now other reports from this time period were saying that Cindy was refusing to speak to the media...off to find a news link)

[cassidy]

July 27 (2008) – Casey offers to work with the FBI to make a composite sketch of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
"She's [Casey] been wanting to cooperate with authorities; she just doesn't trust the local authorities. She would be willing to speak with the FBI," Cindy Anthony tells WESH.com.

Nearly 200 people attend a vigil at the Anthony family home to honor Caylee.


http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/timeline/july22-july27/july22-july27.html

(now other reports from this time period were saying that Cindy was refusing to speak to the media...off to find a news link)

Nothing ever came of that composite sketch, did it?

[Sun]

Sun, February 13, 09

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/02/jose-baez-in-hospital-over-wee.html

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Thanks Pru... On the Clerk of Courts records there was a Lien (from a hospital) that was entered for a Jose Baez (Jan 30 2009). Guess this was maybe a different Jose Baez. maybe.

[Sun]

I am sorry to hear of your friend's passing. He must have been lucky because neck, back, shoulder strain and pressure sores are not unusual in wheel chair users.

IIRC, the he had thrown his back out statement was made by Keith Mitnik from Morgan & Morgan, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez. IMO, Mr. Mitnik was being polite by not going into the details of Mr. Conway's illness in front of the media cameras.

jmo

I suspect that there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we never get to see. I'm keeping a close eye on the Clerk of Courts records, as I found two new entries referencing a court hearing (which make me wonder if there will be an earlier court date than Sept 9th).

[Postergeist]

Nothing ever came of that composite sketch, did it?

correct- a year later and they never produced it. The family could've paid for one- but at that time- maybe the only thing that their budget could allow was an Etch-A-Sketch?

Found the article that mentions Cindy refused interviews- posted on 7/27 and updated on 7/28/08

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17007926/detail.html

However, on Sunday, Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, told Local 6 that she will talk with local detectives.

"I asked her point blank, 'Are you ready to speak with Orange County?'" Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, said. "She said, "I'm ready to do it.'"

...

Cindy Anthony refused interviews Sunday after telling Local 6 that she is upset the focus in the media has been on her daughter and not finding Caylee.

...

Also, the family continues to believe that Caylee's whereabouts are tied to the mysterious babysitter Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. However, detectives are not sure the woman exists.

"She wanted to do a composite sketch with them but they have not brought anyone in to do that about this babysitter," Cindy Anthony said.

[adair]

Hello Everyone!!!!

I have been out of the loop for almost 2 weeks....tried to catchup last night........

Any idea of when the next doc dump is coming? And what is the general idea of what bc handed over to the ocle?

ITA

[desmom]

correct- a year later and they never produced it. The family could've paid for one- but at that time- maybe the only thing that their budget could allow was an Etch-A-Sketch?

Found the article that mentions Cindy refused interviews- posted on 7/27 and updated on 7/28/08

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17007926/detail.html

However, on Sunday, Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, told Local 6 that she will talk with local detectives.

"I asked her point blank, 'Are you ready to speak with Orange County?'" Casey Anthony's brother, Lee, said. "She said, "I'm ready to do it.'"

...

Cindy Anthony refused interviews Sunday after telling Local 6 that she is upset the focus in the media has been on her daughter and not finding Caylee.

...

Also, the family continues to believe that Caylee's whereabouts are tied to the mysterious babysitter Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. However, detectives are not sure the woman exists.

"She wanted to do a composite sketch with them but they have not brought anyone in to do that about this babysitter," Cindy Anthony said.

my bolding...

I have to say those kind of statements drove me nuts. What the heck did the family expect? Casey was the last known person to be with Caylee. Casey did not report Caylee missing. Once it was known Caylee was missing, Casey lied about the apartment she left Caylee. She lied about going to work after she dropped her off. She lied about her employer. She lied about the friends she said she told about Caylee's disappearance. She lied about receiving a phone call around noon on 7/16 from Caylee. She lied.......

Casey is the reason LE, the media and the public focused on Casey. Casey was the key to the investigation.

jmo

[101Spots]

my bolding...

I have to say those kind of statements drove me nuts. What the heck did the family expect? Casey was the last known person to be with Caylee. Casey did not report Caylee missing. Once it was known Caylee was missing, Casey lied about the apartment she left Caylee. She lied about going to work after she dropped her off. She lied about her employer. She lied about the friends she said she told about Caylee's disappearance. She lied about receiving a phone call around noon on 7/16 from Caylee. She lied.......

Casey is the reason LE, the media and the public focused on Casey. Casey was the key to the investigation.

jmo

This fact seems blatantly obvious to every person on the planet except the Anthonys. Even Bozo "gets it" because he shut Casey up pronto.

[Sun]

my bolding...

I have to say those kind of statements drove me nuts. What the heck did the family expect? Casey was the last known person to be with Caylee. Casey did not report Caylee missing. Once it was known Caylee was missing, Casey lied about the apartment she left Caylee. She lied about going to work after she dropped her off. She lied about her employer. She lied about the friends she said she told about Caylee's disappearance. She lied about receiving a phone call around noon on 7/16 from Caylee. She lied.......

Casey is the reason LE, the media and the public focused on Casey. Casey was the key to the investigation.

jmo

I sometimes wish that an interviewer would have said, "What do you expect, Cindy? According to George, Caylee was last seen with Casey. If we believe George, that is. If we don't, then you CINDY, are the last person that was seen with Caylee."

[Bala]

I wish someone would take a closer look at Cindy's sworn testimony that she had addresses and phone #'s for Zanny. If so why didn't she try calling especial once Casey said she took Caylee. Why wasn't she going to these addresses or sending the PI she hired there. Wouldn't and address for Zanny be a great place to start.

[Scampi]

The best interview of cindy anthony, bar none, was done by FOX reporter Megyn Kelly. :thumbsup:

[desmom]

I wish someone would take a closer look at Cindy's sworn testimony that she had addresses and phone #'s for Zanny. If so why didn't she try calling especial once Casey said she took Caylee. Why wasn't she going to these addresses or sending the PI she hired there. Wouldn't and address for Zanny be a great place to start.

I agree. Cindy went to Universal on 7/3 to pick up Caylee, but she never attempted to go to the address she had for Zanny? Yeah right!

I didn't buy that story when Cindy's LE interview was released and IMO, neither did LE.

jmo

[Julie Dupree]

I sometimes wish that an interviewer would have said, "What do you expect, Cindy? According to George, Caylee was last seen with Casey. If we believe George, that is. If we don't, then you CINDY, are the last person that was seen with Caylee."
(my bolding)
Sun, I am wondering if this has not crossed JB's mind also??? We know Cindy was with Caylee on the 15, there is proof of this...there is no proof that George saw her on the 16...and appartently he is the only one to have seen her on the 16. Interesting...hummmm!!!
Julie

[Bala]

(my bolding)
Sun, I am wondering if this has not crossed JB's mind also??? We know Cindy was with Caylee on the 15, there is proof of this...there is no proof that George saw her on the 16...and appartently he is the only one to have seen her on the 16. Interesting...hummmm!!!
Julie

I'm sure it will come to Casey is covering for her mother.

[sully]

Has KC ever said that she saw George that morning and told him that she and Caylee wouldn't be home that night? I have only seen that KC's story starts with dropping Caylee at the stairs at Sawgrass!
If KC has not corroborated G&C's story-then that leaves them wide open for being hit and run over by that bus!!:rolleyes:

[Sun]

I agree. Cindy went to Universal on 7/3 to pick up Caylee, but she never attempted to go to the address she had for Zanny? Yeah right!

I didn't buy that story when Cindy's LE interview was released and IMO, neither did LE.

jmo

Morgan now has Cindy's depo, and the State has entered submitted it to the defense as Discovery. Cindy was under oath in the depo, and possibly this is something that the Jury will hear. If we don't believe Cindy, then I'm going to guess that the Jury won't either. The murder case against Casey will be steered towards Casey (and not Cindy) so I don't know how much of Cindy's lies will be presented to the Jury.

In the LE interviews, I tend to get the impression that Cindy is attempting to steer LE away from Casey, and that George is attempting to steer LE away from Cindy. It's just a feeling that I have, but I think that George just felt the need back then to try to steer suspicion away from Cindy.

[desmom]

Has KC ever said that she saw George that morning and told him that she and Caylee wouldn't be home that night? I have only seen that KC's story starts with dropping Caylee at the stairs at Sawgrass!
If KC has not corroborated G&C's story-then that leaves them wide open for being hit and run over by that bus!!:rolleyes:

IIRC, George is the only one that went into detail about the events of that morning..unless you want to count Cindy's 2 cents worth of tidbits. Casey's statements started with when she dropped off Caylee at Sawgrass between 9 a.m. - 1 p.m.

jmo

[Julie Dupree]

Morgan now has Cindy's depo, and the State has entered submitted it to the defense as Discovery. Cindy was under oath in the depo, and possibly this is something that the Jury will hear. If we don't believe Cindy, then I'm going to guess that the Jury won't either. The murder case against Casey will be steered towards Casey (and not Cindy) so I don't know how much of Cindy's lies will be presented to the Jury.

In the LE interviews, I tend to get the impression that Cindy is attempting to steer LE away from Casey, and that George is attempting to steer LE away from Cindy. It's just a feeling that I have, but I think that George just felt the need back then to try to steer suspicion away from Cindy.


I wonder why he felt this was necessary?

[Scampi]

Has KC ever said that she saw George that morning and told him that she and Caylee wouldn't be home that night? I have only seen that KC's story starts with dropping Caylee at the stairs at Sawgrass!
If KC has not corroborated G&C's story-then that leaves them wide open for being hit and run over by that bus!!:rolleyes:

I don't believe so and that is an excellent observation. If you recall, all of them gave the wrong date as to exactly when they last saw Caylee, with the OC stating she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass apartments between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m.

That flies directly in the face of george's statement, imo.

[Julie Dupree]

IIRC, George is the only one that went into detail about the events of that morning..unless you want to count Cindy's 2 cents worth of tidbits. Casey's statements started with when she dropped off Caylee at Sawgrass between 9 a.m. - 1 p.m.

jmo

IIRC Cindy's contribution to the events of that morning is she heard "them sleeping". But that might have been another morning she heard that. (I wonder if this is done the same way I hear my little puppy sleeping as I type this..:)...)

[Sun]

(my bolding)
Sun, I am wondering if this has not crossed JB's mind also??? We know Cindy was with Caylee on the 15, there is proof of this...there is no proof that George saw her on the 16...and appartently he is the only one to have seen her on the 16. Interesting...hummmm!!!
Julie

The one obstacle to overcome, would be "Why would Cindy call 911 to report Caylee missing?"

I would be highly interested in knowing more about Cindy's behavior and frame of mind from June 15th through July 15th. There does seem to be a change in her pattern of discussions with her co-workers... she didn't ever discuss much about family problems until AFTER June 15. How unstable was her mind during this time?

[Julie Dupree]

The one obstacle to overcome, would be "Why would Cindy call 911 to report Caylee missing?"

I would be highly interested in knowing more about Cindy's behavior and frame of mind from June 15th through July 15th. There does seem to be a change in her pattern of discussions with her co-workers... she didn't ever discuss much about family problems until AFTER June 15. How unstable was her mind during this time?

I have got to run, but anything you can find on this Sun, I would be very interested in knowing about. Interesting new angle that I had not thought about until you mentioned. Thanks..:)
Julie

[101Spots]

The one obstacle to overcome, would be "Why would Cindy call 911 to report Caylee missing?"

I would be highly interested in knowing more about Cindy's behavior and frame of mind from June 15th through July 15th. There does seem to be a change in her pattern of discussions with her co-workers... she didn't ever discuss much about family problems until AFTER June 15. How unstable was her mind during this time?

I don't think it was any more or any less unstable than usual. The only difference is that the mask was starting to slip now and then.

[Sun]

I don't believe so and that is an excellent observation. If you recall, all of them gave the wrong date as to exactly when they last saw Caylee, with the OC stating she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass apartments between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m.

That flies directly in the face of george's statement, imo.

I believe that this was Casey's effort to try to make sure that her statement didn't conflict with the statement that George was to provide (Casey just couldn't agree on or remember all the details). To me, this shows that the entire Anthony family purposefully got together to decide what they were going to tell LE. They had no intention of telling the truth.

[bchand]

The one obstacle to overcome, would be "Why would Cindy call 911 to report Caylee missing?"

I would be highly interested in knowing more about Cindy's behavior and frame of mind from June 15th through July 15th. There does seem to be a change in her pattern of discussions with her co-workers... she didn't ever discuss much about family problems until AFTER June 15. How unstable was her mind during this time?

Didn't she claim in one of those uncovered emails which were deleted that she had a meltdown at work?

It would be interesting to hear what they thought.

[desmom]

Morgan now has Cindy's depo, and the State has entered submitted it to the defense as Discovery. Cindy was under oath in the depo, and possibly this is something that the Jury will hear. If we don't believe Cindy, then I'm going to guess that the Jury won't either. The murder case against Casey will be steered towards Casey (and not Cindy) so I don't know how much of Cindy's lies will be presented to the Jury.

In the LE interviews, I tend to get the impression that Cindy is attempting to steer LE away from Casey, and that George is attempting to steer LE away from Cindy. It's just a feeling that I have, but I think that George just felt the need back then to try to steer suspicion away from Cindy.

George making excuses for Cindy....

From George's 7/24 interview with LE: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447571/George-Anthony-July-24-Interview-released-Nov-6-2008

page 5
I'm not trying to say that I can't shut her up. I've tried. I tried to put my hand over her mouth. I tried to pull her away.

pages 63 & 64
I said, technically sweetie they can come after you, they can come after us because we’re withholding information. And I tried to explain that to her as passionately and as... and again, George I’m gonna do my own investigation... you can’t do this. You’re gonna.. we’re gonna have to get an attorney pretty soon if you keep on screwing things... You got to back up.

[margaritaville]

I wish someone would take a closer look at Cindy's sworn testimony that she had addresses and phone #'s for Zanny. If so why didn't she try calling especial once Casey said she took Caylee. Why wasn't she going to these addresses or sending the PI she hired there. Wouldn't and address for Zanny be a great place to start.


Maybe the address Cindy had was Sawgrass apts... (I know this is giving Casey WAY to much credit) but Maybe that was part of Casey's plan. Back when Casey was searching chloroform, missing children, neck breaking ect. she had the place figured out where the invisible nanny lived? Gave that address to Cindy??

I actually don't believe Casey EVER gave cindy anything reguarding Zanni because IIRC nobody had ever heard the name Zanni before Caylee was missing.....I think the comment from cindy was just her trying to cover her azz from all the slams she was getting not knowing who was taking care of her granddaughter.Not having a phone number or address. So she Lied (nothing new). IMHO

[sully]

The one obstacle to overcome, would be "Why would Cindy call 911 to report Caylee missing?"

I would be highly interested in knowing more about Cindy's behavior and frame of mind from June 15th through July 15th. There does seem to be a change in her pattern of discussions with her co-workers... she didn't ever discuss much about family problems until AFTER June 15. How unstable was her mind during this time?
Well, we know how she was suffering from menapause and hot flashes from her posting to KC. And we know how distraught she was when she created her myspace. Why let yourself get to that point when (according to Cindy) you have phone numbers and addresses for the nanny? And why was this not mentioned till Morgan pressed her? Why did Cindy have to rely on info from a person whose phone number she just happened to find in the car that was just picked up after being abandoned?
If Cindy really did have #'s and addresses for the nanny - why did she not mention that in her posts and myspace or to LE? Cindy didn't say much to her co-workers before because she is all about image-KC blew that image all to pieces!! Although Cindy is still trying with all her might to hang on to what is left of the charade of the Anthony's of Hopesprings Dr.!!

[desmom]

I don't believe so and that is an excellent observation. If you recall, all of them gave the wrong date as to exactly when they last saw Caylee, with the OC stating she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass apartments between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m.

That flies directly in the face of george's statement, imo.

Interesting tidbit about the "between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. - a poster (I am sorry, I can't remember who) pointed out those are the exact hours Tone was in class in June. page 9 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447608/Casey-Anthony-Anthony-Lazzaro-Interview-Sept-18-released-Nov06-08

[Sun]

Didn't she claim in one of those uncovered emails which were deleted that she had a meltdown at work?

It would be interesting to hear what they thought.

At times I tend to forget that Cindy has perhaps told more lies that Casey has... to mislead LE, the media, and the public. And perhaps George tells lies just as often as the rest of the family.

I want to go back and review the very first 400-page doc dump, now that I know just what big liars the Anthony are.

The 31 days is very troubling to me. It's something that I don't understand. It shows me that the Grandparents did NOT think enough of Caylee's well being, to notify authorities in a timely fashion. I believe that Cindy lied bigtime about the fact that Casey and Cindy had many, many fights about Caylee.

[sully]

Interesting tidbit about the "between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. - a poster (I am sorry, I can't remember who) pointed out those are the exact hours Tone was in class in June. page 9 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447608/Casey-Anthony-Anthony-Lazzaro-Interview-Sept-18-released-Nov06-08

That is very interesting!!:huh:

[Sun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTv1kI6FYho&feature=quicklist&playnext=19&playnext_from=QL

I just stumbled across this video of Baez's former client Nilton Diaz... who was convicted in the death of a child after Baez represented him.

[crimeq]

It is a well thoughtout and presented response. Has anyone seen or heard from/of DCasey in the last six months or so? He seems to not only have been a "no-show" at his Morgan depo, he is now on his second attorney.

John Morgan :wub: I'd want him on my side.

[Bala]

I don't think the As every imaged that the case would get so much media attention. They intended to keep it a missing person forever. The speed at which the truth came out left them scrambling for a cover story but with all the media attention and LE's good work it was to late. They went running off in all directions stumbling over their own words and actions.

[JHP]

I don't think the As every imaged that the case would get so much media attention. They intended to keep it a missing person forever. The speed at which the truth came out left them scrambling for a cover story but with all the media attention and LE's good work it was to late. They went running off in all directions stumbling over their own words and actions.

I think the A's wanted the media attention. They already had the Caylee is missing myspace page set up by the time LE arrived. (strange imo)
What they didn't count on was that their story would be challenged by everyone from the start. So then they had to spin, and spin they did.

JMO

[happygert]

It is a well thoughtout and presented response. Has anyone seen or heard from/of DCasey in the last six months or so? He seems to not only have been a "no-show" at his Morgan depo, he is now on his second attorney.

Isn't Kasen casey's attorney for the civil suit? How can he represent dc and casey? isn't that a conflict of interest?

[happygert]

Morgan earlier got a court date of Sept 9th, but it didn't saw just what would be presented at that time. I also read that Kasen got a Sept court date to argue his dismissal/stay motion. And, these are the latest two entries on the Clerk of Courts records.

Thanks Sun.. dang seems like this is going to take almost as long as the murder trial.. Have you heard when LP will be deposed?

[justsaying]

IIRC, George is the only one that went into detail about the events of that morning..unless you want to count Cindy's 2 cents worth of tidbits. Casey's statements started with when she dropped off Caylee at Sawgrass between 9 a.m. - 1 p.m.

jmo

This has always bothered me that she dropped her off between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m. and GA said they left at 12:50. Can you even get to Sawgrass in ten minutes? Just wondering.

[seeing_eye]

my bolding...

I have to say those kind of statements drove me nuts. What the heck did the family expect? Casey was the last known person to be with Caylee. Casey did not report Caylee missing. Once it was known Caylee was missing, Casey lied about the apartment she left Caylee. She lied about going to work after she dropped her off. She lied about her employer. She lied about the friends she said she told about Caylee's disappearance. She lied about receiving a phone call around noon on 7/16 from Caylee. She lied.......

Casey is the reason LE, the media and the public focused on Casey. Casey was the key to the investigation.

jmo

Reference my bolding above. If Cindy had really wanted to find Caylee she would have focused on Casey since she was the only one with any answers about what happened to Caylee.

[Sun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7-fx8rY6KA&feature=quicklist&playnext=10&playnext_from=QL

Here is a video with Cindy giving specifics about the "gas cans" and more on Aug 6 ....it will get your blood boiling.

[happygert]

I am sorry to hear of your friend's passing. He must have been lucky because neck, back, shoulder strain and pressure sores are not unusual in wheel chair users.

IIRC, the he had thrown his back out statement was made by Keith Mitnik from Morgan & Morgan, attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez. IMO, Mr. Mitnik was being polite by not going into the details of Mr. Conway's illness in front of the media cameras.

jmo

He did get pressure sores and some pain in his neck and shoulders but never threw his back out in the 33 years that I knew him..

[desmom]

This has always bothered me that she dropped her off between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m. and GA said they left at 12:50. Can you even get to Sawgrass in ten minutes? Just wondering.

According to google maps, it is 5.8 miles (or a 17 minute drive) from Hopespring to Sawgrass apartments.

[Sun]

Thanks Sun.. dang seems like this is going to take almost as long as the murder trial.. Have you heard when LP will be deposed?

Last that I'd heard, any depo for Morgan/LP was being postponed until after the depos for the Anthonys were completed.

Kasen is Casey's Civil Case attorney. Always has been, and still is. Although, he has rarely ever been seen in court or at any of the depos. My research shows that Kasen and Baez both worked on an earlier trial where Baez defended Nilton Diaz of killing a child. And both Kasen and Baez were seen in one of the early Criminal Case court hearings for Casey's criminal case too. ...kasen is in bed with baez, I do believe.

[cassidy]

On June 16th, 2008 George says KC and Caylee left at 12:50 I believe... and KC says she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1pm...and those are the exact hours Tony went to school that day...Interesting!

Always wondered why KC had such a wide time span in her statement to LE...sounds like another pull it out of your a$$ statement to me.

I would love to see an ink blot test from KC.

That's a 4 hour span. Considering her daughter "went missing" that day, you'd think she could narrow it down to almost the minute she "dropped her off" at the " nanny's".

[MissouriGMom]

This has always bothered me that she dropped her off between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m. and GA said they left at 12:50. Can you even get to Sawgrass in ten minutes? Just wondering.

That whole 9-1 thing has always really bothered me. LE must have gone "wth" when they heard that. What parent would not know the exact time when they last saw their missing child?! How stupid of KC!

I also believe G's story of the 16th is a lie. But why say that he saw them leaving at 12:50? That just barely fits into the 9-1 time frame. There must be some reason, but I sure can't figure it out. I guess that's good. My brain doesn't work like theirs!

[happygert]

I wish someone would take a closer look at Cindy's sworn testimony that she had addresses and phone #'s for Zanny. If so why didn't she try calling especial once Casey said she took Caylee. Why wasn't she going to these addresses or sending the PI she hired there. Wouldn't and address for Zanny be a great place to start.

You'd think.. and if she had the number that would have been the second call I would have made when casey told me she was with the sitter way before c&g got the notice where the car was.. Also if she had a number the LE could have got the records from phone company and got the name and address of the person with that so called number..

There was never a number, because the nanny didn't exist but c&g just kept the lie going.. IMO c&g are just as much liable for defaming ZFG as casey is.. casey may have started the lie but c&g kept on telling the world that ZFG took Caylee..

[desmom]

That's a 4 hour span. Considering her daughter "went missing" that day, you'd think she could narrow it down to almost the minute she "dropped her off" at the " nanny's".

Maybe Casey couldn't remember the exact time because it had been 31 days since she had dropped Caylee off with the "nanny".

:tonguewag:

[cassidy]

Maybe Casey couldn't remember the exact time because it had been 31 days since she had dropped Caylee off with the "nanny".

:tonguewag:



True...sometimes I forget we are dealing with Casey and not a normal mom who couldn't find her child. :shrug:

[crimeq]

I think the A's wanted the media attention. They already had the Caylee is missing myspace page set up by the time LE arrived. (strange imo)
What they didn't count on was that their story would be challenged by everyone from the start. So then they had to spin, and spin they did.

JMO

Somehow I missed this--when was the Caylee is missing myspace page set up? The same day of the 911 calls, before LE got to Hopespring?

[JHP]

Somehow I missed this--when was the Caylee is missing myspace page set up? The same day of the 911 calls, before LE got to Hopespring?

That was my understanding. I'm sorry I don't have a link. IIRC it was sometime between the 1st and 3rd call. Maybe someone else remembers.

[ish]

Maybe the address Cindy had was Sawgrass apts... (I know this is giving Casey WAY to much credit) but Maybe that was part of Casey's plan. Back when Casey was searching chloroform, missing children, neck breaking ect. she had the place figured out where the invisible nanny lived? Gave that address to Cindy??

I actually don't believe Casey EVER gave cindy anything reguarding Zanni because IIRC nobody had ever heard the name Zanni before Caylee was missing.....I think the comment from cindy was just her trying to cover her azz from all the slams she was getting not knowing who was taking care of her granddaughter.Not having a phone number or address. So she Lied (nothing new). IMHO

My bolding. I agree. If Casey had ever given an address or phone number to Cindy, you can be sure Cindy would have called that number or driven past that address. Casey and Cindy were locked in a game over the last couple of years. Casey lied and Cindy tried to figure out the truth. That is why Casey's phone book was full of duplicate names, aliases and dead ends, just in case momma snooped. Casey did everything in her power to keep Cindy in the dark about her life, yet at the same time told her detailed lies to make her think she was being open and honest. Cindy never knew just what was a lie, a truth or combination of the two. She had to take it all in and try to decipher it, then, once she thought she had it figured out, Casey would throw a new angle in, and Cindy would have to start all over.

[JHP]

George told Cindy that he saw the trunk of the car and the gas cans and there was no Caylee...nothing out of the ordinary...Hummm

I think there is a formula to thinking like the Anthony's You take the opposite of what they say and nudge it one way or the other. So to translate Caylee was in the car, no gas cans, but we needed to think of an excuse so we used gas cans and called LE to report them missing. Something along those lines.

[Imperfect4]

I don't believe so and that is an excellent observation. If you recall, all of them gave the wrong date as to exactly when they last saw Caylee, with the OC stating she dropped Caylee off at the Sawgrass apartments between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m.

That flies directly in the face of george's statement, imo.

Maybe Baez and co. will say it was Cindy who is the culprit, and the rest of the family's doing everything possible to protect her, because she's skeery. :laugh:

Casey's doing time for her, George lied for her by saying he saw Casey and Caylee leave for "work" on the 16th, and Lee tried to draw all her bad mojo onto himself at the memorial by wailing "C M A" over and over while kissing his wrist.

I'm just kidding, obviously.

Next subject: how unbelievably stupid was Casey to say she dropped Caylee off between 9am and 1pm? :rolleyes: Just how stupid is that? A 4 hour window? She couldn't narrow it down any more than that? Stooopid.

[trich]

That is very interesting!!:huh:

What I find interesting and more so that I don't think I have heard any one bring up .....How do you say you dropped your child off at any place between 9 and 1 ...that is 4 hours...you mean you wouldn't remember whether it was in the morning or the afternoon or in between.
(i can understand not remembering if it was 9 or 9:30 or between 9 or 10 or something to that effect)
Casey ws probably at Tone's during those hours and being he was at school he could not testify as to where she was.

Wonder if anyone ever asked as to where she went after she dropped Caylee off......was it work or shopping or what?
Of course we all kow she did no such thing .

[ish]

That's a 4 hour span. Considering her daughter "went missing" that day, you'd think she could narrow it down to almost the minute she "dropped her off" at the " nanny's".

If you have to pay someone, I would think you would keep records in order to calculate the amt due. Casey I'm sure had not one record of anything dates or times that Caylee was with Zanny.

[neid_77]

perfect article IMPO on the Caylee Daily about how the justice system is fluad and is not about justice anymore i presonally agree with this article with all my heart. it tells it like it is for our justice system today!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/criminal-profiling-duct-tape-damning-evidence-for-casey-anthony/



Caylee Marie:wub:

[Bala]

That's a 4 hour span. Considering her daughter "went missing" that day, you'd think she could narrow it down to almost the minute she "dropped her off" at the " nanny's".

Are you saying she dropped Caylee off at 9 and went to get her at 1 or she doesn't remember what time she dropped her at. Doesn't she know whether she fed her lunch or not. She has to be kidding no one is that stupid not even Casey. JMO

[Imperfect4]

Reference my bolding above. If Cindy had really wanted to find Caylee she would have focused on Casey since she was the only one with any answers about what happened to Caylee.

Exactly. Yet she chose instead to get in front of every camera aimed at her and insult the media and the rest of the viewing public by stating we weren't doing enough to find her granddaughter. The Ant family's love of pointing the finger of blame elsewhere really bit Cindy in her posterior. She angered a lot of people with her belligerence, and worse, her insulting insistence it was everyone but Casey who wasn't doing the right thing by Caylee.

The Ants should never wonder why they are so widely despised. I've never witnessed such insulting, accusatory behavior out of someone whose biggest problem was either right down the hallway or cooling her heels at the Orange County jail.

[ish]

That was my understanding. I'm sorry I don't have a link. IIRC it was sometime between the 1st and 3rd call. Maybe someone else remembers.

If you are talking about the myspace page sent to Casey's friends and not the "my Caylee is missing" that Cindy posted in early July, then I think they created it after the police were called and started investigating. I think Casey was home with Cindy and some other officers while Melich went out to Universal to check out her story. During that time frame she and CIndy worked on myspace. Later Melich called Hopespring and had Casey brought to Universal where she took them on the wild goose chase. I think Cindy then worked on it and prior to Casey's acutal arrest (remember she was texting Tony) she worked on it too.

[crimeq]

That was my understanding. I'm sorry I don't have a link. IIRC it was sometime between the 1st and 3rd call. Maybe someone else remembers.

Wow ... unless someone in that family is REALLY computer-savvy (and excluding Cindy and Casey who were focused on each other), it's amazing they would do it at that time. You'd think they'd still be in shock.

Were they requesting donations or offering a reward on that first myspace, do you know?

[Bala]

perfect article IMPO on the Caylee Daily about how the justice system is fluad and is not about justice anymore i presonally agree with this article with all my heart. it tells it like it is for our justice system today!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/criminal-profiling-duct-tape-damning-evidence-for-casey-anthony/



Caylee Marie:wub:
When there finished changing the justice system in the US they can change Canada's to where scum like Karla Homolka don't get a free ride because she snitched first.

[Imperfect4]

perfect article IMPO on the Caylee Daily about how the justice system is fluad and is not about justice anymore i presonally agree with this article with all my heart. it tells it like it is for our justice system today!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/criminal-profiling-duct-tape-damning-evidence-for-casey-anthony/



Caylee Marie:wub:

Great article, neid 77! Thanks the link. :smile:

[Dells]

perfect article IMPO on the Caylee Daily about how the justice system is fluad and is not about justice anymore i presonally agree with this article with all my heart. it tells it like it is for our justice system today!

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/criminal-profiling-duct-tape-damning-evidence-for-casey-anthony/



Caylee Marie:wub:

Thanks so much for providing us the link to that article.:thumbup: I love Pat Brown and always agree w/her opinions.

[martha]

Good morning everyone I sure have missed you all been gone over the week end. Just checking in to see if we have anything new on this case. I guess we don;t have anything new. Just as long as casey is sitting in jail that is a good thing. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and I will be reading today. Justice for CAYLEE. jmho

[Leo's Mom]

Exactly. Yet she chose instead to get in front of every camera aimed at her and insult the media and the rest of the viewing public by stating we weren't doing enough to find her granddaughter. The Ant family's love of pointing the finger of blame elsewhere really bit Cindy in her posterior. She angered a lot of people with her belligerence, and worse, her insulting insistence it was everyone but Casey who wasn't doing the right thing by Caylee.

The Ants should never wonder why they are so widely despised. I've never witnessed such insulting, accusatory behavior out of someone whose biggest problem was either right down the hallway or cooling her heels at the Orange County jail.

Speaking of pointing fingers, here's an interesting book excerpt from "Crime Signals" by David Givens. Hope it is ok to post this link.

ETA: that link didn't take you to the page I wanted. But you can find it by scrolling down, clicking on "contents" and browsing the first chapter. The paragraph regarding pointing a finger at someone is on page 13. Sorry for the confusion.

I don't post much, but read often.

http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage.aspx?isbn=0312362196&m_type=7

ie, pointing a finger at someone is a sign of aggression - NOT of truth. (Think Cindy Anthony)


The first chapter deals with spotting someone who is trying to deceive you. For example, these indicate a liar:

Glaring Anger

Nonverbal Lock-down, complete lack of gestures (Seen during Scott Peterson's Trial)

Facing and angling away, angular distance (how Scott Peterson treated his mother-in-law)

Vocal tension, throat tightness, clearing of the throat (seen when Peterson was making up lies in interviews)

Acute episodes of stammering, hemming, hawwing (such as "uh, umm, ah")

Showing no emotion

Moisture above the upper lip


If you can, scroll through the sneak preview pages of this book ... it is very good. Wonder if the State will call this author to testify. :)

[sydney]

[I]July 27 (2008) – Casey offers to work with the FBI to make a composite sketch of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
"She's [Casey] been wanting to cooperate with authorities; she just doesn't trust the local authorities. She would be willing to speak with the FBI," Cindy Anthony tells WESH.com.



snipped by me. we talked about this a few days ago and here are some reasons why she couldn't come up with a composite for the invisible nanny:

the FBI doesn't use invisible ink

the sketch artist could have held up a blank piece of paper and kc would prolly have shouted "that's her!"

us substandard humans (in the a's opinion, anyway) can't see invisible people, even though the a's apparently can.

[Imperfect4]

Leo's Mom ... thanks for the link! Very interesting, and I found page 13 without a problem.

I kept thinking as I was reading about Cindy's demeanor both in front of her house during the early days of the case, and also during her Morgan deposition. She's like a textbook example of giving out "crime signals." :w00t:

[Tracian]

This case is eerrie:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356491


Very close to this case, this mother NEVER reported her child missing...and nearly 40 years later, the mother goes to trial, two mistrials, and the judge dismisses charges.

[Leo's Mom]

Leo's Mom ... thanks for the link! Very interesting, and I found page 13 without a problem.

I kept thinking as I was reading about Cindy's demeanor both in front of her house during the early days of the case, and also during her Morgan deposition. She's like a textbook example of giving out "crime signals." :w00t:

That's exactly what I thought, too!

The whole family fits the profile, IMO.

Deceivers, one and all.

[JHP]

Wow ... unless someone in that family is REALLY computer-savvy (and excluding Cindy and Casey who were focused on each other), it's amazing they would do it at that time. You'd think they'd still be in shock.

Were they requesting donations or offering a reward on that first myspace, do you know?

Ish so nicely answered it a post b4 this one. I remember thing why Cindy, would you be setting up a Myspace page about Caylee being "stolen" and not frantically looking for her?
So many things have been hokey from the start. I'm not sure about donations at that time, but it would be interesting to know.

JMO

[bchand]

Speaking of pointing fingers, here's an interesting book excerpt from "Crime Signals" by David Givens. Hope it is ok to post this link.

ETA: that link didn't take you to the page I wanted. But you can find it by scrolling down, clicking on "contents" and browsing the first chapter. The paragraph regarding pointing a finger at someone is on page 13. Sorry for the confusion.

I don't post much, but read often.

http://us.macmillan.com/BookCustomPage.aspx?isbn=0312362196&m_type=7

ie, pointing a finger at someone is a sign of aggression - NOT of truth. (Think Cindy Anthony)


The first chapter deals with spotting someone who is trying to deceive you. For example, these indicate a liar:

Glaring Anger

Nonverbal Lock-down, complete lack of gestures (Seen during Scott Peterson's Trial)

Facing and angling away, angular distance (how Scott Peterson treated his mother-in-law)

Vocal tension, throat tightness, clearing of the throat (seen when Peterson was making up lies in interviews)

Acute episodes of stammering, hemming, hawwing (such as "uh, umm, ah")

Showing no emotion

Moisture above the upper lip


If you can, scroll through the sneak preview pages of this book ... it is very good. Wonder if the State will call this author to testify. :)

Thank you so much for this link. I may have to get this book !

Glaring Anger - This also reminded me of George at the Zenaida depostion - How DARE YOU, how DARE YOU.

(Keeping the rest of my thoughts about that to myself.)

[bchand]

Ish so nicely answered it a post b4 this one. I remember thing why Cindy, would you be setting up a Myspace page about Caylee being "stolen" and not frantically looking for her?
So many things have been hokey from the start. I'm not sure about donations at that time, but it would be interesting to know.

JMO

or advertising for "unpaid" assistants? Bizarre !

[JHP]

or advertising for "unpaid" assistants? Bizarre !

Exactly! These people aren't right in the head. JMO

[Sun]

I noticed today, that Morgan has changed the look to their web site. Very nicely done and very professional. References to the Anthonys are gone... but I'm sure not forgotten within their law firm. In a way, I like this approach by Morgan.

[Bala]

I've often wonder why with Caylee was missing and all hell had broken lose over at the A's house why the rush over to Tony's to get Casey's things?

[sully]

I've often wonder why with Caylee was missing and all hell had broken lose over at the A's house why the rush over to Tony's to get Casey's things?

IMO To stay one step ahead of LE-just like with the Pontiac!!:mad:

[happygert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7-fx8rY6KA&feature=quicklist&playnext=10&playnext_from=QL

Here is a video with Cindy giving specifics about the "gas cans" and more on Aug 6 ....it will get your blood boiling.

OH boy!! more lies.. She also said casey wouldn't leave the car parked at amscot with evidence in it where I can see it everyday when I go to work.. IMO they knew car was there and was hoping someone would steal it.. she also knew when it was no longer there and thought someone had stole it..

who ever was looking for washer and dryer in garage its in this video.

[Leo's Mom]

I believe Cindy is in it up to her eyeballs.

That video is very revealing. Just her choice of words, like "evidence", "murder", and the way she looks down when spinning another whopper.

IMO

[Sun]

OH boy!! more lies.. She also said casey wouldn't leave the car parked at amscot with evidence in it where I can see it everyday when I go to work.. IMO they knew car was there and was hoping someone would steal it.. she also knew when it was no longer there and thought someone had stole it..

who ever was looking for washer and dryer in garage its in this video.

Casey left the car at the Amscot on June 27th, AFTER Cindy has already traveled to work. June 27th, a Friday, could possibly have given Cindy ONE time to spot the car. June 28/29 was the weekend and Cindy doesn't work weekends. June 30th, a monday, Cindy was on vacation. IMO, Cindy had no idea that the car was at the Amscot, until George did his own investigation in July. George is a sly one, and it's quite possibly that his accounting of the timeline for getting notice that the car had been impounded was a bit "off."

[djmsmom]

OH boy!! more lies.. She also said casey wouldn't leave the car parked at amscot with evidence in it where I can see it everyday when I go to work.. IMO they knew car was there and was hoping someone would steal it.. she also knew when it was no longer there and thought someone had stole it..

who ever was looking for washer and dryer in garage its in this video.

Cindy states in the interview "a lot of people believe Caylee is alive".

In Caseys jail house visit she also tells her mother "a lot of people know I told the truth, or believe me" I don't remember how exactly she phrase it.

But I think it's very telling that think if someone believes their lies, then everyone should.

[desmom]

Casey left the car at the Amscot on June 27th, AFTER Cindy has already traveled to work. June 27th, a Friday, could possibly have given Cindy ONE time to spot the car. June 28/29 was the weekend and Cindy doesn't work weekends. June 30th, a monday, Cindy was on vacation. IMO, Cindy had no idea that the car was at the Amscot, until George did his own investigation in July. George is a sly one, and it's quite possibly that his accounting of the timeline for getting notice that the car had been impounded was a bit "off."

Description of the Amscot intersection posted by really3997 on July 3.

IIRC, this in Goldenrod and Colonial Lots of accidents which is a very busy intersection but at this was undergoing major construction. IMO you could not take your eyes off the road if you wanted to make it through without getting hit.

IMO, it sounds like a pretty hectic intersection. Not exactly the place one would have the opportunity to look to see who is parked in the area parking lots.

[Neffy]

You'd think.. and if she had the number that would have been the second call I would have made when casey told me she was with the sitter way before c&g got the notice where the car was.. Also if she had a number the LE could have got the records from phone company and got the name and address of the person with that so called number..

There was never a number, because the nanny didn't exist but c&g just kept the lie going.. IMO c&g are just as much liable for defaming ZFG as casey is.. casey may have started the lie but c&g kept on telling the world that ZFG took Caylee..

I don't believe Cindy EVER had any numbers. Not the numbers were disconnected, switched and ever changing. She was trying to make themselves look responsible. Casey probably told Cindy the above if Cindy asked. Cindy relayed this to the police but changed that little bit about actually having possession.

I mean c'mon. How would it look for responsible Grandma not to have phone access or the known whereabouts of who was watching her grandaughter.

She obviously never knew as the was no NANNY.

[Sun]

Description of the Amscot intersection posted by really3997 on July 3.



IMO, it sounds like a pretty hectic intersection. Not exactly the place one would have the opportunity to look to see who is parked in the area parking lots.

IMO, Cindy was trying to "explain away" the fact that Casey was the one who parked the car at the Amscot. LE, the media, and the public are all way too smart to be fooled by Cindy's lies and misleading stories. The evidence found in the car, in addition to the custody of the car, points directly at Casey and nobody else. And, Cindy just hates this.

[martha]

I don;t believe cindy had any phone # or address because as a gm you would try the phone # and when you had not seen your gd for 31 days you would go to the address to see her. I would have gone the very first week and I think most gm would have checked out the address and also the phone # Sometimes all this makes me think cindy knew right from the start that caylee was gone. I don;t understand the 911 calls tho. I know casey was going to leave town if cindy had given her one more day. I really think jb missed it when he did not claim casey had or has some mental ills. I think the whole a family has something wrong in their brain. Now after all this time and what all they have done and the way they or living of of money because of Caylee if any of them ever loved CAYLEE. If they did they sure don;t act like it now or have never acted like they really loved her. This case is the biggest mess I have ever seen. it is all lies and we don;t know what to believe. I do know that I have never seen casey act like she loved Caylee one bit. Her heart is made of stone,.jmho

[Pruddennce]

I don't believe Cindy EVER had any numbers. Not the numbers were disconnected, switched and ever changing. She was trying to make themselves look responsible. Casey probably told Cindy the above if Cindy asked. Cindy relayed this to the police but changed that little bit about actually having possession.

I mean c'mon. How would it look for responsible Grandma not to have phone access or the known whereabouts of who was watching her grandaughter.

She obviously never knew as the was no NANNY.

endless lies Neffy.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5345644/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthony-deposition-in-the-ZFG-civil-case

Cindy during deposition: claims Caylee has been saying phrases since she was 18 months old, but doesnt talk about anything unless she is engaged and asked. during the depo she says she talked about the puppy...they were trying to affirm, well, how did a puppy come up if she doesnt talk about anything unless she is asked? if Cindy didnt know about a puppy, how is it that Caylee suddenly volunteers information.....<---Cindy, the liar.

further, she is asked, what is the puppy's name: Cindy can remember Zanny and the travelling commune, Jennifer, Juliet, her mother, Jeff's mother, Jeff, etc etc etc, but cant remember the puppy's name because it was 'several months ago <----liar, which is kind of funny because these people dont exist, so she really could have said any name for the puppy....lol

and she claims THE DOG is EVIDENCE that Zanny exists....

mr puppy the witness!


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[seeing_eye]

I wish someone would take a closer look at Cindy's sworn testimony that she had addresses and phone #'s for Zanny. If so why didn't she try calling especial once Casey said she took Caylee. Why wasn't she going to these addresses or sending the PI she hired there. Wouldn't and address for Zanny be a great place to start.

Cindy didn't use those addresses and phone numbers she had for Zanny since they were imaginary just like her suicide notes and almost everything else about this case. JMO

[Pruddennce]

I don;t believe cindy had any phone # or address because as a gm you would try the phone # and when you had not seen your gd for 31 days you would go to the address to see her. I would have gone the very first week and I think most gm would have checked out the address and also the phone # Sometimes all this makes me think cindy knew right from the start that caylee was gone. I don;t understand the 911 calls tho. I know casey was going to leave town if cindy had given her one more day. I really think jb missed it when he did not claim casey had or has some mental ills. I think the whole a family has something wrong in their brain. Now after all this time and what all they have done and the way they or living of of money because of Caylee if any of them ever loved CAYLEE. If they did they sure don;t act like it now or have never acted like they really loved her. This case is the biggest mess I have ever seen. it is all lies and we don;t know what to believe. I do know that I have never seen casey act like she loved Caylee one bit. Her heart is made of stone,.jmho

Cindy 'said' she gave LE the 'nanny's address' THAT NITE......

however, on June 3rd, she sent Lee out looking for her (he tracked down her movements from friends on her net postings)....he finds out she is local.

of course he told Cindy.

Cindy tells LE AND during the deposition, she BELIEVED that Casey was in Jacksonville, that is what Casey told her. she never mentions Lee found out otherwise.

did she drive over to the 'address of the nanny'....???????........

no.

because she is a liar. she had NO INFORMATION, tele or address.....she had no idea where Casey went every day with Caylee and where she was staying overnite before June 15th...in fact, in her deposition, she was confronted with her NONEXISTENT employment.....she was asked, when you found out she didnt work, how did you reconcile that with needing a nanny?

Cindy says she cant. <----first answer

then decides to have a grammar 101 course with the word 'reconcile' *she hasnt come to terms with it*

after that short instructional statement, she changes her answer:

"I dont know if she worked or not".

?????

( starting at page 46 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5345644/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthony-deposition-in-the-ZFG-civil-case)

remember in less than 24 hours Casey admitted to LE she didnt work at Universal. yet, Cindy, et al went on interviews saying she worked, she was on vacation, she was bonding, and she worked.

Lee changed the name of her employment to an entity CONNECTED TO UNIVERSAL STUDIOS in a position of EVENT COORDINATOR who preferred to remain annonymous with regard to Casey's position there. GMAB

7:29 AUGUST 5th!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9yjoIjG7UY&feature=related

it would be quite an LOL, if it wasnt such abhorrent behaviour concerning the disposition of a missing toddler.

yet, there go the Anthonys, lying, and IMO, hoping she is never found deceased so they can continue to perpetuate their lies.

their god chose to light the way...and gave them back Caylee to lay to rest....they chose to view that discovery as a means to make a pack with the devil.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Julie Dupree]

Description of the Amscot intersection posted by really3997 on July 3.



IMO, it sounds like a pretty hectic intersection. Not exactly the place one would have the opportunity to look to see who is parked in the area parking lots.


I was reviewing some old files...and found this one. I dont remember seeing the surveillance photo's from the Amscot parking lot...does anyone have those???
Julie

[Julie Dupree]

I was reviewing some old files...and found this one. I dont remember seeing the surveillance photo's from the Amscot parking lot...does anyone have those???
Julie

Oppsss...forgot to post the referrence link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyjhoOGsq_8

[seeing_eye]

On June 16th, 2008 George says KC and Caylee left at 12:50 I believe... and KC says she dropped Caylee off between 9 and 1pm...and those are the exact hours Tony went to school that day...Interesting!

Always wondered why KC had such a wide time span in her statement to LE...sounds like another pull it out of your a$$ statement to me.

I would love to see an ink blot test from KC.

That time span always bothered me too. For one thing, I probably would not have said, "I dropped my child off." That almost seems like somebody dropping something off in a drop box or something. I probably would have said, "I took my child to the babysitter." And I'm pretty sure I would have recalled a smaller time span for that. I'm sure I would have said something like "9 o'clock" or "about 9 o'clock," but never a 9 to 1 time span. That's just downright ridiculous.

[Sun]

The Clerk of Courts records show that more Discovery was released to the defense today in the Criminal Murder Case.

I wonder when the State is going to release to the media, the Discovery that was released on July 16th?

[Pruddennce]

That time span always bothered me too. For one thing, I probably would not have said, "I dropped my child off." That almost seems like somebody dropping something off in a drop box or something. I probably would have said, "I took my child to the babysitter." And I'm pretty sure I would have recalled a smaller time span for that. I'm sure I would have said something like "9 o'clock" or "about 9 o'clock," but never a 9 to 1 time span. That's just downright ridiculous.

in the words of Cindy Anthony "RED FLAG".

remember, she was pretending she was employed. she forgot she was supposed to have a 'work schedule' to refer to: hence, her first knee jerk response was a huge timespan, because IMO she didnt know WHAT TO SAY because she never took Caylee anywhere to be watched by ZFG.

another red flag "she never went into the apartment - she just dropped her off at the stairs".

???????

my nag is this: when she admitted she didnt have a job, why didnt LE ASK HER where she was all day? and EVERY DAY she told her parents she was working prior to the 16th.

as an aside, she did formulate a 'new and improved story' which was never told BY HER to LE. that new story was delivered by the family....the abduction in the park, with no weapon drawn on her. an arm twist and OMG shocked when her daughter 'was led away'....not absconded with, she was walked to the vehicle.

GMAB

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[really3997]

According to google maps, it is 5.8 miles (or a 17 minute drive) from Hopespring to Sawgrass apartments.


do we know the street address

[Julie Dupree]

do we know the street address

Were you asking about Sawgrass Apartments...if so that address is
2859 S Conway Rd

[cassidy]

The Clerk of Courts records show that more Discovery was released to the defense today in the Criminal Murder Case.

I wonder when the State is going to release to the media, the Discovery that was released on July 16th?



I thought the media had to go ask for it once it was released?

[Pruddennce]

The Clerk of Courts records show that more Discovery was released to the defense today in the Criminal Murder Case.

I wonder when the State is going to release to the media, the Discovery that was released on July 16th?

good question.

Sun, do you, or anyone else, believe that the state was seeking Cindy's private binder with notes...??? and perhaps she scanned all the pages onto the computer? or the computer was not an issue at all....they want their notes/chron.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035355/index.html

George with one in tow as well:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

just a guess.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[cassidy]

good question.

Sun, do you, or anyone else, believe that the state was seeking Cindy's private binder with notes...??? and perhaps she scanned all the pages onto the computer? or the computer was not an issue at all....they want their notes/chron.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035355/index.html

George with one in tow as well:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

just a guess.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

If that's what they were looking for I'm sure they are plain out of luck. If Cindy scanned things, they certainly weren't things that would harm Casey. And if she still has the binder and turned it over, I'd bet it is missing some pertinent information.

JMO

[summer]

in the words of Cindy Anthony "RED FLAG".

remember, she was pretending she was employed. she forgot she was supposed to have a 'work schedule' to refer to: hence, her first knee jerk response was a huge timespan, because IMO she didnt know WHAT TO SAY because she never took Caylee anywhere to be watched by ZFG.

another red flag "she never went into the apartment - she just dropped her off at the stairs".

???????

my nag is this: when she admitted she didnt have a job, why didnt LE ASK HER where she was all day? and EVERY DAY she told her parents she was working prior to the 16th.

as an aside, she did formulate a 'new and improved story' which was never told BY HER to LE. that new story was delivered by the family....the abduction in the park, with no weapon drawn on her. an arm twist and OMG shocked when her daughter 'was led away'....not absconded with, she was walked to the vehicle.

GMAB

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Hi Pru -

I seem to recall that was one of those times LE let Casey off easy and helped her fill in the blanks. She said she "dropped her off at the stairs" and did not make any quick moves to revise that to something more appropriate. However the interrogator jumped on that and said (paraphrasing) "What, you just left her alone at the stairs? Was someone there to meet her?" Giving Casey a chance to rehabilitate her answer. I guess they had to clarify that but they gave her some rope on that one.

Also, I just loved when they asked her why in the world she said she brought them to Universal because "maybe Caylee would be there" was Caylee supposed to hail a cab or something?

It was such a stupid moment among stupid moments for the stupid girl herself, Casey.

[Chardonnay]

Hi Pru -

I seem to recall that was one of those times LE let Casey off easy and helped her fill in the blanks. She said she "dropped her off at the stairs" and did not make any quick moves to revise that to something more appropriate. However the interrogator jumped on that and said (paraphrasing) "What, you just left her alone at the stairs? Was someone there to meet her?" Giving Casey a chance to rehabilitate her answer. I guess they had to clarify that but they gave her some rope on that one.

Also, I just loved when they asked her why in the world she said she brought them to Universal because "maybe Caylee would be there" was Caylee supposed to hail a cab or something?

It was such a stupid moment among stupid moments for the stupid girl herself, Casey.

Bolding mine:

Speaking of stupid moments, and one that still sticks in my mind was from Cindy, about Casey lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. I know, there are tons more of stupid moments from the both of them.

[summer]

Bolding mine:

Speaking of stupid moments, and one that still sticks in my mind was from Cindy, about Casey lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. I know, there are tons more of stupid moments from the both of them.

ITA Crown Jewel of Stupid right there.

[Sun]

good question.

Sun, do you, or anyone else, believe that the state was seeking Cindy's private binder with notes...??? and perhaps she scanned all the pages onto the computer? or the computer was not an issue at all....they want their notes/chron.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035355/index.html

George with one in tow as well:

http://www.wftv.com/video/18032897/index.html

just a guess.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

Pru, the State has recently been pushing to get Judge Strickland to set a trial date on the criminal check/fraud charges. And, I wonder if the Anthonys were subpoenaed to turn over documents pertaining to financial matters?

[Imperfect4]

in the words of Cindy Anthony "RED FLAG".

remember, she was pretending she was employed. she forgot she was supposed to have a 'work schedule' to refer to: hence, her first knee jerk response was a huge timespan, because IMO she didnt know WHAT TO SAY because she never took Caylee anywhere to be watched by ZFG.

another red flag "she never went into the apartment - she just dropped her off at the stairs".

???????

my nag is this: when she admitted she didnt have a job, why didnt LE ASK HER where she was all day? and EVERY DAY she told her parents she was working prior to the 16th.

as an aside, she did formulate a 'new and improved story' which was never told BY HER to LE. that new story was delivered by the family....the abduction in the park, with no weapon drawn on her. an arm twist and OMG shocked when her daughter 'was led away'....not absconded with, she was walked to the vehicle.

GMAB

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

And just as not one of the Ants rushed to get a composite sketch of ZFG drawn and out for public viewing, not one Ant ran to LE with the new, improved Blanchard park abduction story, either.

Casey was lying. They knew Casey was lying. They all lied to cover for Casey. And all their lies became obvious to the public fairly quickly.

Yet they are all absolutely indignant they are not believed.

[Bala]

One of the most telling parts of Georges statement to LE is when he said he tried to get Cindy to stop. He told her if she didn't stop they were going to need a lawyer too.

What did he want her to stop doing? Lying and hiding evidence like the hairbrush.

[apothecary]

I don't think the As every imaged that the case would get so much media attention. They intended to keep it a missing person forever. The speed at which the truth came out left them scrambling for a cover story but with all the media attention and LE's good work it was to late. They went running off in all directions stumbling over their own words and actions.
And it's those very actions that kept this story alive and the media attention so very strong.What other "mother kills kid" story has rendered this much attention for 1 full year and going?This script couldn't even be written by an author and the lawyers are tripping over themselves to be associated with it.

[ttcRider]

Bolding mine:

Speaking of stupid moments, and one that still sticks in my mind was from Cindy, about Casey lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. I know, there are tons more of stupid moments from the both of them.

That one was one of my favorite stupid moments as well. The other one was when she said that even when Casey lies she tells the truth. Paraphrasing, I can't retain too much stupidity these days. :huh:

[spydernweb2006]

I watched the vid of Cindy and something started bothering me....

So I played it back and at 2:05 Cindy CLEARLY says that Casey's gas gauge wasnt working correctly :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7-fx8rY6KA&feature=quicklist&playnext=10&playnext_from=QL

Then I remembered with my poor, faulty memory a forensic report on Casey's gas gauge:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

Pages 40 and 41 (edited to add this so you wont hafta go thru it all!)


Hmmmmmm now who do you think is not telling the whole truth and who do you think a Jury is gonna believe?

I'll lay my money on the forensic report.


JMHO

Hugs,

Spyder

[djmsmom]

I watched the vid of Cindy and something started bothering me....

So I played it back and at 2:05 Cindy CLEARLY says that Casey's gas gauge wasnt working correctly :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7-fx8rY6KA&feature=quicklist&playnext=10&playnext_from=QL

Then I remembered with my poor, faulty memory a forensic report on Casey's gas gauge:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html


Hmmmmmm now who do you think is not telling the whole truth and who do you think a Jury is gonna believe?

I'll lay my money on the forensic report.


JMHO

Hugs,

Spyder

Guess what? I believe that is one time when Cindy thought she was telling the truth. casey had G and C believing that the gas gauge was broke, that's how she explained how a person with a great job, was always running out of gas. They were probably very suprised to find out it wasn't... this is a first for me, sticking up for Cindy....

[apothecary]

I think the gas can confrontation really happened between G. and KC because Lee mentioned in the secret video to Tone that KC had told him about it and that he thought G. was being a pr about it so something went down that day and it was not quite as Cindy related on that video where she said KC was going to put them back and write a note of apology.Yea sure

[really3997]

That one was one of my favorite stupid moments as well. The other one was when she said that even when Casey lies she tells the truth. Paraphrasing, I can't retain too much stupidity these days. :huh:

I use to be able to quote my favorite stupid moment, and I have been looking for it. Where Cindy states that Casey is giving them info in code.. I wish I could find the link

[djmsmom]

I use to be able to quote my favorite stupid moment, and I have been looking for it. Where Cindy states that Casey is giving them info in code.. I wish I could find the link

I would vote for the stupidest moment was the OC walking down the hall with LE, when she didn't work there.

[really3997]

I would vote for the stupidest moment was the OC walking down the hall with LE, when she didn't work there.

Well while I was looking I found this Stupid, Stupid..thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bylU7sTthw

[101Spots]

Sooooooooo...... Who else thinks the Anthonys will pull something stupid, tacky, and tasteless on Caylee's birthday?

[cassidy]

Sooooooooo...... Who else thinks the Anthonys will pull something stupid, tacky, and tasteless on Caylee's birthday?

:seeya::seeya: I do !

[Pruddennce]

I use to be able to quote my favorite stupid moment, and I have been looking for it. Where Cindy states that Casey is giving them info in code.. I wish I could find the link

hmmm really, I believe that was during her LE/FBI interviews...but its too painful to go back and listen to.....

but perhaps you can appreciate this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387283,00.html

Casey has been trying to tell the police in her own way what she can tell them and the only unfortunate thing is, you know, they want a clear picture," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, told FOX News. "There's no clear picture. Casey has her reasons why she just can't blurt out the whole story, so she's been honest with them for what she can be honest with."

Cindy, the skilled double-talker, liar.

its soooooooooooo unfortunate for LE that they want a clear picture.....ummmmmmmmmmm yes, they WOULD prefer the TRUTH......

OMG!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting for Cindy Anthony to speak intelligently......and for maggot evidence.....*

[apothecary]

Well while I was looking I found this Stupid, Stupid..thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bylU7sTthw

I watched the video on the same page called Cindy grilled by the finest investigators.Its funny:laugh:

[really3997]

hmmm really, I believe that was during her LE/FBI interviews...but its too painful to go back and listen to.....

but perhaps you can appreciate this one:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387283,00.html

Casey has been trying to tell the police in her own way what she can tell them and the only unfortunate thing is, you know, they want a clear picture," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, told FOX News. "There's no clear picture. Casey has her reasons why she just can't blurt out the whole story, so she's been honest with them for what she can be honest with."

Cindy, the skilled double-talker, liar.

its soooooooooooo unfortunate for LE that they want a clear picture.....ummmmmmmmmmm yes, they WOULD prefer the TRUTH......

OMG!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting for Cindy Anthony to speak intelligently......and for maggot evidence.....*

IIRC. It was with the Media and she was telling them that she(meaning casey) was taking them(police) to the house but not the right house. it was the same mistruth/half truth would have been just as easy to say LIE. I really need to find it cuz when I heard it the first time I was HUH? what did she just say

[really3997]

Sooooooooo...... Who else thinks the Anthonys will pull something stupid, tacky, and tasteless on Caylee's birthday?

Chili, that stupid song. the rolling billboard and the Boat did I cover it all:thumbup:

[Pruddennce]

I use to be able to quote my favorite stupid moment, and I have been looking for it. Where Cindy states that Casey is giving them info in code.. I wish I could find the link

I remember her talking about code in relation to 'her story' and giving her HINTS and then saying to LE/FBI and in the deposition that Amy and/or Jesse just might be ZANNY.....

which is pretty ridiculous since she claims she knew all about Zanny the Nanny for almost 2 years....and Casey only knew Amy for a short period of time....

Jesse's family stopped being a caregiver for Caylee long ago.

gawd

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Chardonnay]

Hey Pru ... :seeya: I just have to tell you that all your posts today were great. I always look forward to what you're going to post next.

[101Spots]

Chili, that stupid song. the rolling billboard and the Boat did I cover it all:thumbup:

Can't leave out the ATV or the Milstead's bikes. If you want a *real* event, that is.

[101Spots]

Hey Pru ... :seeya: I just have to tell you that all your posts today were great. I always look forward to what you're going to post next.

I say we give Pru a set of Ginzu knives and put her in a locked room with Cindy. We know she has surgical precision with her analysis, and she knows all of Cindy's lies. Voila! Case solved.

[Neffy]

Cindy 'said' she gave LE the 'nanny's address' THAT NITE......

however, on June 3rd, she sent Lee out looking for her (he tracked down her movements from friends on her net postings)....he finds out she is local.

of course he told Cindy.

Cindy tells LE AND during the deposition, she BELIEVED that Casey was in Jacksonville, that is what Casey told her. she never mentions Lee found out otherwise.

did she drive over to the 'address of the nanny'....???????........

no.

because she is a liar. she had NO INFORMATION, tele or address.....she had no idea where Casey went every day with Caylee and where she was staying overnite before June 15th...in fact, in her deposition, she was confronted with her NONEXISTENT employment.....she was asked, when you found out she didnt work, how did you reconcile that with needing a nanny?

Cindy says she cant. <----first answer

then decides to have a grammar 101 course with the word 'reconcile' *she hasnt come to terms with it*

after that short instructional statement, she changes her answer:

"I dont know if she worked or not".

?????

( starting at page 46 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5345644/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthony-deposition-in-the-ZFG-civil-case)

remember in less than 24 hours Casey admitted to LE she didnt work at Universal. yet, Cindy, et al went on interviews saying she worked, she was on vacation, she was bonding, and she worked.

Lee changed the name of her employment to an entity CONNECTED TO UNIVERSAL STUDIOS in a position of EVENT COORDINATOR who preferred to remain annonymous with regard to Casey's position there. GMAB

7:29 AUGUST 5th!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9yjoIjG7UY&feature=related

it would be quite an LOL, if it wasnt such abhorrent behaviour concerning the disposition of a missing toddler.

yet, there go the Anthonys, lying, and IMO, hoping she is never found deceased so they can continue to perpetuate their lies.

their god chose to light the way...and gave them back Caylee to lay to rest....they chose to view that discovery as a means to make a pack with the devil.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Hey Pru :seeya:

Yep Cindy is as big of a liar as Casey is.

She sure bee lined it over to Tonys house as soon as she had a address to go to. She didn't and never had an address or number for the Nanny. No where is there any conversation about Cindy tracking down this address and finding it bogus. She didn't track because she had nothing to track. She was asking Casey to take her there.

Liar, liar, liar!

[Dells]

Bolding mine:

Speaking of stupid moments, and one that still sticks in my mind was from Cindy, about Casey lying about working so she could spend more time with Caylee. I know, there are tons more of stupid moments from the both of them.

Oh, I know.:rolleyes: Casey lied about working because she was too lazy to get a real job. Caylee was a hindrance to her lazy lifestyle so that is why she murdered her.

[Imperfect4]

I would vote for the stupidest moment was the OC walking down the hall with LE, when she didn't work there.

I guess for me, Casey's stupidity peaked when I heard her absurd Zanny the Nanny story and realized she had a full month to come up with it ... and that's the best she could do. :lol:

The Ants' stupidity peaked whenever they repeated, as fact, things their lying liar of a daughter had said.

[Imperfect4]

I say we give Pru a set of Ginzu knives and put her in a locked room with Cindy. We know she has surgical precision with her analysis, and she knows all of Cindy's lies. Voila! Case solved.

Someone will need to supply the live streaming video. :thumbup:

[Imperfect4]

Sooooooooo...... Who else thinks the Anthonys will pull something stupid, tacky, and tasteless on Caylee's birthday?

Me. I suspect it will involve a media appearance. Either another interview :rolleyes:, or a bear-peddling photo opp.

[101Spots]

Someone will need to supply the live streaming video. :thumbup:

I'll bet the Milstead's have a company that does that. For a fee, of course. :D:

[Chardonnay]

I say we give Pru a set of Ginzu knives and put her in a locked room with Cindy. We know she has surgical precision with her analysis, and she knows all of Cindy's lies. Voila! Case solved.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[girlspell]

It makes me so mad that the LE gave Cindy & George immunity. Very frustrating. What happens during the trial. Can George & Cindy change their story? They were terrible during the civil hearings.

[really3997]

http://www.wesh.com/video/16939973/index.html

I just found this video I don't recall seeing before...can anyone tell me what the heck she is saying...:confused:

[seeing_eye]

Guess what? I believe that is one time when Cindy thought she was telling the truth. casey had G and C believing that the gas gauge was broke, that's how she explained how a person with a great job, was always running out of gas. They were probably very suprised to find out it wasn't... this is a first for me, sticking up for Cindy....

I'm with you. I really hate to take up for Cindy too, but in this case, I'm sure she's repeating what Casey had been telling her to explain the many times she was running out of gas.

[seeing_eye]

Well while I was looking I found this Stupid, Stupid..thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bylU7sTthw

Because you posted that link, I actually went there and listened to that stupid thing. Thanks a lot, Really!

ETA: Well, I actually fast forwarded through most of it.

[Chardonnay]

http://www.wesh.com/video/16939973/index.html

I just found this video I don't recall seeing before...can anyone tell me what the heck she is saying...:confused:

She's saying... LIES..LIES...and more LIES.....:cursing:
I've never seen this video either, Really.

[martha]

http://www.wesh.com/video/16939973/index.html

I just found this video I don't recall seeing before...can anyone tell me what the heck she is saying...:confused:
Well I tryed to listen to it but it just will not play for me but cindy did say Caylee was in her home on june the 9th.I think cindy just don;t even know what she is saying most of the time.jmho

[martha]

It makes me so mad that the LE gave Cindy & George immunity. Very frustrating. What happens during the trial. Can George & Cindy change their story? They were terrible during the civil hearings.
Do you really mean that they have given c an g immunity? boy that is crazy. after the way they both acted with morgan. I can;t believe le would do that.jmho

[martha]

She's saying... LIES..LIES...and more LIES.....:cursing:
I've never seen this video either, Really.ITA with you it is all lies and I just can;t believe anything they say anymore. none of the a;s know how to tell the truth. jmho

[Pruddennce]

I'm with you. I really hate to take up for Cindy too, but in this case, I'm sure she's repeating what Casey had been telling her to explain the many times she was running out of gas.

but but but....good ole car salesman George who took care of ALL OF THE CARS IN THE HOUSE, (he claims) suddenly does nothing about her broken gas gauge?????? the anthonys said it themselves, it happened before? running out of gas......

whuttttt happened...mr proactive allowed their daughter to drive around a little toddler in a car that was impaired, that might run out of gas at any moment?

cant have it both ways...heck, George told LE that Cindy suggested to bring the gas cans along when they picked the car up......

so good ole rotating tires George didnt take care of the cars.....sure, Casey could have used that excuse, so why didnt George take the car and have it checked? THEY OWNED IT.

these people and their grandiose opinions of themselves....so transparent...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[girlspell]

Do you really mean that they have given c an g immunity? boy that is crazy. after the way they both acted with morgan. I can;t believe le would do that.jmho

My understanding is, they gave them immunity long before the civil hearings when underway. Really early, I think before the body was found. Am I correct in that?

[Pruddennce]

Hey Pru ... :seeya: I just have to tell you that all your posts today were great. I always look forward to what you're going to post next.

likewise Chardonnay....you and the rest of our esteemed posters.....!

ginzu knives....lol........I would like nothing more than to see justice done by having them both arrested for the same reason her daughter was arrested the first time: giving FALSE STATEMENTS, withholding information. Ill settle for perjury...or simply being held in contempt, or taken to the mat about their BOGUS foundations.....

LE dropped the ball, they ARE part of the big picture.

maybe it will come out at trial when Casey's defense chooses to toss her parents under the bus....I feel it coming in opening statement.....the blame game for 'who' Casey is and why she was so lackadaisical about her daughter.....I feel the story coming on how her mother blah blah blah, she is the reason she didnt report Caylee missing, blah blah blah....think of the wildest story to blame her mother for her 'attitude" while Caylee was missing....

its going to be quite a ride!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Pruddennce]

Well I tryed to listen to it but it just will not play for me but cindy did say Caylee was in her home on june the 9th.I think cindy just don;t even know what she is saying most of the time.jmho

I didnt listen, but I do recall Cindy told LE/FBI, that Caylee did NOT stay overnite at Ricardo's.....she's lying. she didnt even know where Casey went that nite. Cindy stayed at her mother's house either friday or saturday nite that weekend...it probably was quite a visit with Shirley, having just been ripped off by Casey recently......Cindy comes home, big major argument AGAIN.....

then Casey storms off on monday nite and doesnt come home with Caylee.

the week marches on, Cindy gets Caylee one last time, father's day, another rage scene.....the end.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[bchand]

I didnt listen, but I do recall Cindy told LE/FBI, that Caylee did NOT stay overnite at Ricardo's.....she's lying. she didnt even know where Casey went that nite. Cindy stayed at her mother's house either friday or saturday nite that weekend...it probably was quite a visit with Shirley, having just been ripped off by Casey recently......Cindy comes home, big major argument AGAIN.....

then Casey storms off on monday nite and doesnt come home with Caylee.

the week marches on, Cindy gets Caylee one last time, father's day, another rage scene.....the end.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

In this interview at 2:34 on the tape, George says he "saw them go out the door" just like any other day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYy30_Jxx1c

Didn't George just recently say he put Caylee IN the carseat?

[Pruddennce]

My understanding is, they gave them immunity long before the civil hearings when underway. Really early, I think before the body was found. Am I correct in that?

girlspell, IIRC they WANTED immunity when they were going to be questioned by prosecutors (at trial), it wasnt offered.

this happened in January.

I dont believe the state gave them anything. they have a body, they have evidence. unless they murdered Caylee or know firsthand that Casey murdererd her, whats the point....

let them commit perjury...the civil suit is a preview of how they are going to behave at trial.....

I might be wrong, but I do not recall their request being honored.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Pruddennce]

In this interview at 2:34 on the tape, George says he "saw them go out the door" just like any other day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYy30_Jxx1c

Didn't George just recently say he put Caylee IN the carseat?

I heard that on the threads, I dont remember if there is a link. however, George is changing the story, slowly....suddenly there is breakfast....although he stuck to the same story over and over again prior to that, careful not to mention any other activity in the home prior to 12:50pm....

Because there wasnt any....IMO but now its time to embellish the story and add details....for the trial.

the weekend of the 8th was the beginning of the end, IMO. Casey stormed off on monday nite and didnt come home. she came home on tuesday and rode the week out, cancelling things as she went along: Amy and her car trip to Jacksonville that weekend, a picnic at Ryan's aunt's house.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[seeing_eye]

http://www.wesh.com/video/16939973/index.html

I just found this video I don't recall seeing before...can anyone tell me what the heck she is saying...:confused:

Anthonyspeak!! :scared:

[marinewife5]

I guess for me, Casey's stupidity peaked when I heard her absurd Zanny the Nanny story and realized she had a full month to come up with it ... and that's the best she could do. :lol:

The Ants' stupidity peaked whenever they repeated, as fact, things their lying liar of a daughter had said.

casey has yet to make an intelligent move ever from what i can tell, so it's impossible for me to narrow it down to one or two favorites.

cindy first irked me when she was doing an interview with a national network and stated that the national media doesn't "get" her, but the orlando media does. it showed she was as much about games as casey was. the great news for cindy is that, now, everyone "gets" her!

jmo

[seeing_eye]

My understanding is, they gave them immunity long before the civil hearings when underway. Really early, I think before the body was found. Am I correct in that?

I don't recall any of the Anthonys receiving any immunity for anything. They wanted immunity and hired attorneys to try and get it, but I don't remember that they ever received it. I could be wrong.

[seeing_eye]

likewise Chardonnay....you and the rest of our esteemed posters.....!

ginzu knives....lol........I would like nothing more than to see justice done by having them both arrested for the same reason her daughter was arrested the first time: giving FALSE STATEMENTS, withholding information. Ill settle for perjury...or simply being held in contempt, or taken to the mat about their BOGUS foundations.....

LE dropped the ball, they ARE part of the big picture.

maybe it will come out at trial when Casey's defense chooses to toss her parents under the bus....I feel it coming in opening statement.....the blame game for 'who' Casey is and why she was so lackadaisical about her daughter.....I feel the story coming on how her mother blah blah blah, she is the reason she didnt report Caylee missing, blah blah blah....think of the wildest story to blame her mother for her 'attitude" while Caylee was missing....

its going to be quite a ride!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

I don't believe LE dropped the ball. I think they have a plan.

[Imperfect4]

I don't recall any of the Anthonys receiving any immunity for anything. They wanted immunity and hired attorneys to try and get it, but I don't remember that they ever received it. I could be wrong.

I suddenly find myself amused by that. Poor C&G ... they thought they had something LE wanted. They thought they'd play Let's Make A Deal. Guess that didn't work out so well ... :laugh:

[seeing_eye]

I suddenly find myself amused by that. Poor C&G ... they thought they had something LE wanted. They thought they'd play Let's Make A Deal. Guess that didn't work out so well ... :laugh:

Guess not. :wink:

[Pruddennce]

Anthonyspeak!! :scared:

ah yes and the JUNE 8th STORY, you know, A TIMELINE for a missing child, is being told to the media.....and its WRONG and 31 days late.....

thanks for the video, watching Cindy beginning to get agitated because people with intelligence are asking her logical questions.....she begins, what she thinks, is her INTIMIDATION tactic...

something she was very proud of saying out loud to investigators during her interview "DO I INTIMIDATE YOU" <---paraphrasing, however, that was the gist of her statement while she leaned over the investigator's shoulder...

shuddering..intimidate is hardly the word....more like 'makes my skin crawl' to be close to such hateful vibes.....

again, thanks for the video. people need to be reminded how 'these people' began their 'save casey' campaign and to heck with the missing child.....

listen how calmly she states 'who knows what might have happened to Caylee' as she was describing the 'hands that have her'....she didnt even flinch....I find it hard to believe someone could utter a fearful scenario involving a 'missing child' without getting upset....

except for psychopaths....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Pruddennce]

I don't believe LE dropped the ball. I think they have a plan.

thanks for the vote of confidence SE...I want to believe that :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[jammies]

Me. I suspect it will involve a media appearance. Either another interview :rolleyes:, or a bear-peddling photo opp.



.....and another "VIGIL". :rolleyes:

[seeing_eye]

thanks for the vote of confidence SE...I want to believe that :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

IMO, their plan is to give them plenty of rope.

[marinewife5]

IMO, their plan is to give them plenty of rope.

ITA....I believe George will fill in most of the blanks.

jmo

[jammies]

ITA....I believe George will fill in most of the blanks.

jmo



I think GA will pull his stupid act. He pretends not to remember or that he never heard this or that. Then when pressed he acts all po'd and outraged. No way he will ever tell all he knows cuz if he did he might have to go out find a job, get a life and be a MAN.

[Bala]

I have never understood why Lee needed a separate lawyer from his parents.

[AnniePie]

or advertising for "unpaid" assistants? Bizarre !

I know it's late and I don't know who is still around, but I just want to say... if I lived near them, I would definitely be an unpaid assistant to the Anthonys! Just so I could keep tabs on them and report back to all my IS friends.

I could become Cindy's BFF if it meant getting in the "know"! LOL (Okay j/k about that part.)

[Bala]

Not only would you be unpaid but you'd have to be available 24/7.

[sully]

I have never understood why Lee needed a separate lawyer from his parents.

I believe I heard somewhere that Brad C and Tom L. are partners.:sneaky:I'm sure representing G&C&L is a full time job. Just like the personal assistant they were looking for way back in the day when Caylee was still "missing."
Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee.com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-XXXX cell - LeeAAnthony@XXXXX.com
__________________

[AnniePie]

I believe I heard somewhere that Brad C and Tom L. are partners.:sneaky:I'm sure representing G&C&L is a full time job. Just like the personal assistant they were looking for way back in the day when Caylee was still "missing."
Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee.com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-XXXX cell - LeeAAnthony@XXXXX.com
__________________

Yep. Reading that again the ol' "sense of entitlement" is so apparent.

Back then when we really didn't know the Anthonys and what they were capable of, this seemed outrageous. Now it seems rather par for the course since we know them so much better. Why wouldn't they have a slave or two running their butts off to serve them? They deserved it, didn't they.

Gag me once again with Lavenia's clam fork. :ohmy:

[Sun]

http://www.wesh.com/video/16939973/index.html

I just found this video I don't recall seeing before...can anyone tell me what the heck she is saying...:confused:

Thanks really, for finding and sharing this link. It's a Cindy interview that I hadn't ever seen. Not quite sure of the date, but she's wearing that same top in a national TV interview, isn't she?

[cassidy]

Go to Trials and old cases and read the story of the girl in the little blue dress. Imagine how simple it would have been to explain the absence of Caylee to the world. She didn't even have a Daddy to raise any questions. If Cindy hadn't called 911, we may have never know about Caylee Anthony.

[desmom]

One year ago....July 28, 2008

$125,000 Reward Offered for Caylee’s Safe Return
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/21/grandmother_thinks_mother_may_know_caylee39s_locat ion.html

Women With Same Name As Caylee's Alleged Babysitter Defend Themselves
http://www.wftv.com/news/17018170/detail.html

Nearly 200 Attend Vigil For Missing 2-Year-Old Caylee Anthony
http://www.wftv.com/news/17012917/detail.html

Family Holds Public Vigil In Honor Of Missing Toddler
http://www.wftv.com/video/17011703/index.html

Casey Talks To Mom, Brother In Call From Jail
http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

Listen to 911 Calls:
911 Call #1 “I’m not giving you another day, I’ve given you a month.
http://www.wftv.com/video/16989413/index.html
911 Call #2 “I have someone here that needs to be arrested”
http://www.wftv.com/video/16980843/index.html
911 Call #3 “My granddaughter has been taken”
http://www.wftv.com/video/16980866/index.html

Casey Anthony Visitation Log
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0728/17013636.pdf

Jail Phone Call, 911 Calls Released In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.wftv.com/news/16989107/detail.html

Caylee Anthony Closed Threads Links Only Thread #1
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=338043

[Sun]

Go to Trials and old cases and read the story of the girl in the little blue dress. Imagine how simple it would have been to explain the absence of Caylee to the world. She didn't even have a Daddy to raise any questions. If Cindy hadn't called 911, we may have never know about Caylee Anthony.

Something is so very wrong within their family, that 31 days could pass after little Caylee was killed, before anyone contacted the authorities. For that reason, my suspicions run high that (Cindy, Lee, or George) were indeed involved in a coverup (aiding and abetting). Casey killed Caylee, and her family tried to keep Casey from being held accountable.

[cassidy]

Something is so very wrong within their family, that 31 days could pass after little Caylee was killed, before anyone contacted the authorities. For that reason, my suspicions run high that (Cindy, Lee, or George) were indeed involved in a coverup (aiding and abetting). Casey killed Caylee, and her family tried to keep Casey from being held accountable.

Well that kind of lets Cindy off the hook for any involvement or she would never have made that 911 call. She drew police attention to them.

JMO

[ellegna]

I heard that on the threads, I dont remember if there is a link. however, George is changing the story, slowly....suddenly there is breakfast....although he stuck to the same story over and over again prior to that, careful not to mention any other activity in the home prior to 12:50pm....

Because there wasnt any....IMO but now its time to embellish the story and add details....for the trial.

the weekend of the 8th was the beginning of the end, IMO. Casey stormed off on monday nite and didnt come home. she came home on tuesday and rode the week out, cancelling things as she went along: Amy and her car trip to Jacksonville that weekend, a picnic at Ryan's aunt's house.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Hi Pru :seeya:

Here's the link. George's story about June 16th changed drastically while being interviewed on the Early Show.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5091216n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

[desmom]

Video links from one year ago today article: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/21/grandmother_thinks_mother_may_know_caylee39s_locat ion.html

Not Giving Up Hope
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00UTXYxCayleeMonday_07212008 0916&cat=Local&title=Not%20Giving%20Up%20Hope

Will Casey be Set Free?
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00UTXYxCaseyBond_07212008102 1&cat=Local&title=Will%20Casey%20Be%20Set%20Free?

Attorney Jose Baez Defends Casey Anthony
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CayleeAttorney_072120081255&cat=Local&title=Attorney%20Jose%20Baez%20Defends%20Casey%20A nthony

Caylee Prayer Vigil
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CayleePrayerVigil_0721200812 19&cat=Local&title=Caylee%20Prayer%20Vigil

Caylee Reads To Her Family
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00UTYQxCayleeReading_0719200 80942&cat=Local&title=Caylee%20Reads%20To%20Her%20Family

[cassidy]

When it comes to Cindy & George being involved in a cover up regarding their daughter.... one needs to forget about all the 911 calls.

The cover up began soon after Casey was arrested.

The cover up is documented. Changing stories during different media interviews. Smells like decomp. Smells like pizza. Smells like trash.

Forget the 911 calls. Cindy & George began their cover up after Casey was arrested.

My response was to the post by Sun concerning the 31 days prior to the 911 call and the possibility of a cover-up beginning during that time frame. If that were the case, then that lets Cindy off the hook or she would have never made the 911 call IMO.

[desmom]

IMO, the phone call Casey made home screams volumes about Casey's concern for Caylee and her relationship with her family.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

[trich]

I don't recall any of the Anthonys receiving any immunity for anything. They wanted immunity and hired attorneys to try and get it, but I don't remember that they ever received it. I could be wrong.

No I don't think you are wrong.
They did not receive any kind of immunity.

[Bala]

Hi Pru :seeya:

Here's the link. George's story about June 16th changed drastically while being interviewed on the Early Show.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5091216n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

My God I've never seen that interview all I could do was stare at the diamond necklace around Cindy's neck. All I could think of was ya send us your money I need earrings to match.

[Sun]

IMO, the phone call Casey made home screams volumes about Casey's concern for Caylee and her relationship with her family.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

Yes, the phone call that Casey first made from the jail. She wanted nothing more from her family, than for them to provide "her" with Tony's phone number. Caylee? Caylee who? OMG! Such a waste!

[trich]

If that were the case, then that lets Cindy off the hook or she would have never made the 911 call IMO.

Exactly ....I bet Cindy is kicking herself for ever making the 911 call.
From there on out though she and George are guilty of trying everything they can to cover up for Casey.
But IMO th emore they tried the worse it got.
They should have kept their mouths shut just like Scott Petterson should have kept his mouth shut.
For some dumb reason Cindy IMO feels guilty about that call since
that was the beginning of the end for Casey.
Never mind about poor Caylee.:mad:

[JHP]

Hi Pru :seeya:

Here's the link. George's story about June 16th changed drastically while being interviewed on the Early Show.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5091216n&tag=contentMain;contentBody

Amazing isn't it? Thank you for posting this. So now he was up feeding Caylee breakfast at 7:30? I wonder what time Cindy "heard" her sleeping?

And the reason national media got involved with Haleigh was because Cindy made calls. PATHETIC imo

[cassidy]

My God I've never seen that interview all I could do was stare at the diamond necklace around Cindy's neck. All I could think of was ya send us your money I need earrings to match.

The early Cindy pics and the recent ones show a totally different Cindy. She's all jeweled up now and she likes to show it off too.

JMO

[cassidy]

Exactly ....I bet Cindy is kicking herself for ever making the 911 call.
From there on out though she and George are guilty of trying everything they can to cover up for Casey.
But IMO th emore they tried the worse it got.
They should have kept their mouths shut just like Scott Petterson should have kept his mouth shut.
For some dumb reason Cindy IMO feels guilty about that call since
that was the beginning of the end for Casey.
Never mind about poor Caylee.:mad:

I agree totally. I think the frantic backtracking began immediately after the last 911 call when Cindy realized what she had done to Casey.

JMO

[Bala]

Yes, the phone call that Casey first made from the jail. She wanted nothing more from her family, than for them to provide "her" with Tony's phone number. Caylee? Caylee who? OMG! Such a waste!

That was Cindy's first major mistake. They should have told Casey call back when your ready to talk about Caylee and hung up in her ear. They give Casey all the control and she beats them over the head with it.

[Sun]

My response was to the post by Sun concerning the 31 days prior to the 911 call and the possibility of a cover-up beginning during that time frame. If that were the case, then that lets Cindy off the hook or she would have never made the 911 call IMO.

And, George called Lee and told him that he was worried about "Cindy" and wanted Lee to go over to the house. ....what this doesn't say, screams volumns to me. I think that George knew that Cindy was a weak link, and that George feared for what Cindy might do. George's fear was for "Cindy" and no one else. That is what George's phone call to Lee (on July 15th) said to me. George already knew that Caylee was dead... and that her dead body was in Casey's car at some point. George went to the trouble to remove the battery from the car, and to put his nose down on the stain in the trunk to get a good idea of where to focus "the cleaning" of the car.

[desmom]

Yes, the phone call that Casey first made from the jail. She wanted nothing more from her family, than for them to provide "her" with Tony's phone number. Caylee? Caylee who? OMG! Such a waste!

Casey speaks: http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

5:00 OMG! Calling you guys a waste. A huge waste!

6:55 I am not sitting here ****** crying every 2 seconds because I have to stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things. I can't sit here and be crying every 2 seconds like I want to. I can't.

7:25 No they are not because I just watched the ***** news. Nobody in my own family is on my side....

They just want Caylee back. That is all they are worried about right now is getting Caylee back. You know what that is all I care about right now.

Something I didn't notice the many times I have listened to this before:

8:45 I haven't slept in four days. I have not slept in four days.

but then at 11:45 she said:

I have only been in jail since about 8:30 tonight. I was with them all day today. I know that. I was with officers pretty much since 9:00 last night up until today..up until this evening when I came up here.

So why didn't Casey sleep the 3 days prior to the 911 call or is this another Anthonyism about their lack of sleep?

jmo

[Myka]

The early Cindy pics and the recent ones show a totally different Cindy. She's all jeweled up now and she likes to show it off too.

JMO


we all know everything the As do is a lie, and since we know they had money issues before Caylee was murdered, it makes me wonder if Cindy's bling is real or not. They lie about everything else, so why wouldn't she wear fake bling?

[ish]

Yes, the phone call that Casey first made from the jail. She wanted nothing more from her family, than for them to provide "her" with Tony's phone number. Caylee? Caylee who? OMG! Such a waste!

That conversation with Tony is something I would have loved to have heard. Would he even have spoken to her? What would she have said "Oh yea the cops are looking for her, but how are you doing, are you going to Fusion? I should be out by Friday, so I can help you with your gig then. What am I gonna do? I can't sit around crying, I have to keep myself together to help the cops. No I don't have to go on any searches, if they find her they'll let me know, they have my number. I'm not too worried it's only 31 days, if she's missing much longer I might get a bit concerned. My boss said to take as much time off as I need so we can hang out all the time when I get out. I'm only here on a f***ing whim you know"

[sully]

And, George called Lee and told him that he was worried about "Cindy" and wanted Lee to go over to the house. ....what this doesn't say, screams volumns to me. I think that George knew that Cindy was a weak link, and that George feared for what Cindy might do. George's fear was for "Cindy" and no one else. That is what George's phone call to Lee (on July 15th) said to me. George already knew that Caylee was dead... and that her dead body was in Casey's car at some point. George went to the trouble to remove the battery from the car, and to put his nose down on the stain in the trunk to get a good idea of where to focus "the cleaning" of the car.

ITA I sure wish we could know what Cindy must have said to George that made him call Lee! She must have been furious that KC was sitting in that car with her and refusing to give up any info-even the threat of the police didn't make her flinch!
Cindy must have called George from the car and told him that she was going to involve LE! George couldn't leave work yet , so he calls Lee not for KC, but for Cindy! George is worried about Cindy!!:cursing:
I also would have loved to hear the phone call George made to Lee!! Did it go something like "For God's sake-don't let your mother call the police!! Just try to keep her calmed down till I get home!!"?
Stoopid family-they all feel bad they got KC in trouble!! Forget about what KC did to Caylee!!:flamemad:

[Sun]

That conversation with Tony is something I would have loved to have heard. Would he even have spoken to her? What would she have said "Oh yea the cops are looking for her, but how are you doing, are you going to Fusion? I should be out by Friday, so I can help you with your gig then. What am I gonna do? I can't sit around crying, I have to keep myself together to help the cops. No I don't have to go on any searches, if they find her they'll let me know, they have my number. I'm not too worried it's only 31 days, if she's missing much longer I might get a bit concerned. My boss said to take as much time off as I need so we can hang out all the time when I get out. I'm only here on a f***ing whim you know"

My memory is a bit shaky on this, but I believe that Casey did try to phone Tony, but Tony either didn't accept the call, or wasn't available to take the call. Casey had been in contact with Tony early on June 16th, before LE took Casey from the home and later arrested her. .....so it' not as if Casey hadn't had time to talk with Tony, just hadn't been able to chat with him "after" she was arrested.

[djmsmom]

Exactly ....I bet Cindy is kicking herself for ever making the 911 call.
From there on out though she and George are guilty of trying everything they can to cover up for Casey.
But IMO th emore they tried the worse it got.
They should have kept their mouths shut just like Scott Petterson should have kept his mouth shut.
For some dumb reason Cindy IMO feels guilty about that call since
that was the beginning of the end for Casey.
Never mind about poor Caylee.:mad:

I tell my children to not listen to what people say, listen to their actions for the truth.

I think the loyalty to Casey is all lip service. I believe they know Casey killed Caylee and have come to terms with it. Now their off to make the 'best' of a bad situation. As far as we know they haven't tried to contact Casey at all. In fact i'm sure all the interviews and all the new bling, infuriates Casey.

No talk of even looking for the real killer, or anything to take the focus off of Casey. They were able to pay off 56,000. dollars in cc debt, but not pay her legal fees.

They are out for themselves, and it's sickning, but I believe they are glad to be rid of Casey, except that raiseing a murderer makes them look bad.

[Sun]

Casey speaks: http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

5:00 OMG! Calling you guys a waste. A huge waste!

6:55 I am not sitting here ****** crying every 2 seconds because I have to stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things. I can't sit here and be crying every 2 seconds like I want to. I can't.

7:25 No they are not because I just watched the ***** news. Nobody in my own family is on my side....

They just want Caylee back. That is all they are worried about right now is getting Caylee back. You know what that is all I care about right now.

Something I didn't notice the many times I have listened to this before:

8:45 I haven't slept in four days. I have not slept in four days.

but then at 11:45 she said:

I have only been in jail since about 8:30 tonight. I was with them all day today. I know that. I was with officers pretty much since 9:00 last night up until today..up until this evening when I came up here.

So why didn't Casey sleep the 3 days prior to the 911 call or is this another Anthonyism about their lack of sleep?

jmo

I'd say that Casey was exaggerating just a bit.

Sunday July 13...
Monday July 14...
Tuesday July 15... Cindy is to blame for Casey not getting any sleep. :laugh:
Wednesday July 16... Guess Casey didn't sleep too good in the jail

[JHP]

ITA I sure wish we could know what Cindy must have said to George that made him call Lee! She must have been furious that KC was sitting in that car with her and refusing to give up any info-even the threat of the police didn't make her flinch!
Cindy must have called George from the car and told him that she was going to involve LE! George couldn't leave work yet , so he calls Lee not for KC, but for Cindy! George is worried about Cindy!!:cursing:
I also would have loved to hear the phone call George made to Lee!! Did it go something like "For God's sake-don't let your mother call the police!! Just try to keep her calmed down till I get home!!"?
Stoopid family-they all feel bad they got KC in trouble!! Forget about what KC did to Caylee!!:flamemad:

I know, I have always wondered if George called Lee to have him be there instead of George. George imo is a useless wimp and I think he would have had trouble lying to LE about Casey at the start. He sure practiced up pretty quick tho.
I'm basing this on I think that whole family knew about Caylee in June.

[Bala]

We all know that Casey is Caylee's mother so why are G&C making all the money. Casey alone would have the rights to Caylee's image and estate. She isn't the type to sit back and let her parents get all the money I believe she would even go as far as filing a court order to stop them. There has to be something in it for her. What is it? Is she buying their testimony and silence. Is she paying them to lie? Caylee's the only one without a lawyer to protect her rights to lie in peace and the one that deserves one the most.

[Sun]

I tell my children to not listen to what people say, listen to their actions for the truth.

I think the loyalty to Casey is all lip service. I believe they know Casey killed Caylee and have come to terms with it. Now their off to make the 'best' of a bad situation. As far as we know they haven't tried to contact Casey at all. In fact i'm sure all the interviews and all the new bling, infuriates Casey.

No talk of even looking for the real killer, or anything to take the focus off of Casey. They were able to pay off 56,000. dollars in cc debt, but not pay her legal fees.

They are out for themselves, and it's sickning, but I believe they are glad to be rid of Casey, except that raiseing a murderer makes them look bad.

I have detected signs that Casey is not happy being in the jail. Her comments about the "food." And, being left out of the loop. Not having anyone to comfort her in the jail. I also suspect that Casey is missing her twice daily showers too. But hey! She can shop at the commissary using someone else's money!

[BlueTurtle]

Sooooooooo...... Who else thinks the Anthonys will pull something stupid, tacky, and tasteless on Caylee's birthday?

I think they will do something very tacky. CMA Chili supper as a fund raiser for their foundation?

[SoggyBayou]

I don't think Cindy is sorry for the 911 calls. She had too. She knew that others would wonder, "where is Caylee?" All of the Ants knew what happened to Caylee and the cover-up started. The Ants hiring DC shortly [latter July] after OC arrest is when the Ants wanted to find a DEAD CAYLEE.
Sightings of Caylee have always been a distraction.
IMO

[BlueTurtle]

I have never understood why Lee needed a separate lawyer from his parents.

I think it was very necessary for him. He has tried to be the most forthcoming until he started saying he believes his sister in the deposition. He didn't agree with the spin they were putting out there.

There is a love/hate relationship due to Casey's behaviors. He loves his siter and hates her for the trouble she has caused for years.

[sully]

I have detected signs that Casey is not happy being in the jail. Her comments about the "food." And, being left out of the loop. Not having anyone to comfort her in the jail. I also suspect that Casey is missing her twice daily showers too. But hey! She can shop at the commissary using someone else's money!

Yep! And now she can't get in trouble for stealing or writing a bad check!! It's legal shopping-that's new for her!!:lol:

[bchand]

I think they will do something very tacky. CMA Chili supper as a fund raiser for their foundation?

You're right. On the foundation website, they say they "may be planning a vigil" on her birthday.

Anything to keep the attention on them.

[djmsmom]

I'd say that Casey was exaggerating just a bit.

Sunday July 13...
Monday July 14...
Tuesday July 15... Cindy is to blame for Casey not getting any sleep. :laugh:
Wednesday July 16... Guess Casey didn't sleep too good in the jail

I was listening to the first call from the jail, weird, but who is Christina and why did they think Casey might tell her the truth?

[101Spots]

The early Cindy pics and the recent ones show a totally different Cindy. She's all jeweled up now and she likes to show it off too.

JMO

Someone should explain to her that it's considered a bit trashy to wear her entire inventory all at the same time.

[sully]

Yes, she really has come into herself with her new body, jewels and is much more comfortable talking to the media then at the beginning...I think she should write a book...Media Blitz for Dummies...:wink:

I'm sure Cindy felt that she needed to dress and look the part of the President of a foundation!! :rolleyes:

[ellegna]

My memory is a bit shaky on this, but I believe that Casey did try to phone Tony, but Tony either didn't accept the call, or wasn't available to take the call. Casey had been in contact with Tony early on June 16th, before LE took Casey from the home and later arrested her. .....so it' not as if Casey hadn't had time to talk with Tony, just hadn't been able to chat with him "after" she was arrested.

I recall something like that too. Didn't Casey call him and he hung up on her? :shrug:

[djmsmom]

I recall something like that too. Didn't Casey call him and he hung up on her? :shrug:

I think he didn't accept charges. To bad he didn't speak with her we would have got a whole different story. He should have asked her about her behavior the whole time they were together, and about stealing from Amy for their groceries.

[cassidy]

Someone should explain to her that it's considered a bit trashy to wear her entire inventory all at the same time.

LOL..how true! :)

[marinewife5]

I think GA will pull his stupid act. He pretends not to remember or that he never heard this or that. Then when pressed he acts all po'd and outraged. No way he will ever tell all he knows cuz if he did he might have to go out find a job, get a life and be a MAN.

i think he'll break. even if just to free himself from cindy....the same "income" she enjoys now, so does he. she isn't supporting him financially at this point.

jmo

[cassidy]

You're right. On the foundation website, they say they "may be planning a vigil" on her birthday.

Anything to keep the attention on them.

How do you have a vigil for someone who is already dead? Isn't that a memorial?

[101Spots]

Oh, look. Mally-Bu "has lots of productive things to do this week," and she is "focused." How sweet.

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

If she's helping to plan a vigil for Caylee, I'm going to hurl.

[jammies]

You're right. On the foundation website, they say they "may be planning a vigil" on her birthday.

Anything to keep the attention on them.


yep yep yep. The A's love a vigil.

A vigil for WHAT??? The chance to give Lee the opportunity to be a drama queen again? CMA CMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Gag.

[marinewife5]

How do you have a vigil for someone who is already dead? Isn't that a memorial?

perhaps it's a subtle suggestion that what they found in that lot wasn't caylee, and that she is still on the lam with her nanny? we may know that to not be true, but cindy seems to be running with the concept that she is the victim in all of this and therefore should be heeded.

jmo

[cassidy]

Oh, look. Mally-Bu "has lots of productive things to do this week," and she is "focused." How sweet.

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

If she's helping to plan a vigil for Caylee, I'm going to hurl.

that sure looks like a different Mally-Bu than I saw at the memorial service..but whatever. Wonder if they are waiting to get married until Casey gets out...:biggrinjester:

[jammies]

Oh, look. Mally-Bu "has lots of productive things to do this week," and she is "focused." How sweet.

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

If she's helping to plan a vigil for Caylee, I'm going to hurl.



Mally needs an intervention. Deprogramming.

[101Spots]

How do you have a vigil for someone who is already dead? Isn't that a memorial?

vigil n., 1. (a) a period of keeping awake during a time usually spent asleep, especially to keep watch or pray (b) a stationary, peaceful demonstration in support of a particular cause, typically without speeches

I guess "vigil" would be acceptable as long as Cindy keeps her mouth shut. Figure the odds on that happening.....

[marinewife5]

Oh, look. Mally-Bu "has lots of productive things to do this week," and she is "focused." How sweet.

Mally-Bu (http://www.myspace.com/mal322)

If she's helping to plan a vigil for Caylee, I'm going to hurl.

does anyone in that crew think before they speak or type? productive things to do? maybe i'm being picky, but productive would describe a person or their actions, not a to-do list itself.

jmo

[cassidy]

vigil n., 1. (a) a period of keeping awake during a time usually spent asleep, especially to keep watch or pray (b) a stationary, peaceful demonstration in support of a particular cause, typically without speeches

I guess "vigil" would be acceptable as long as Cindy keeps her mouth shut. Figure the odds on that happening.....



that hasn't happened yet :shrug: so the odds are not in cindy's favor. would that make it not a vigil then?

[kakax]

Hey guys! I read every night before I go to bed, but with the kids home for summer, it is difficult to post. I have kept up with all the goings on thanks to all of you....thanks!:wub:

Any news on the forthcoming document dump? Seems like this one is taking a long time to become public. At some point I read this document dump is focused on Jesse. Is that the case?

I have been sickened watching the Anthony's do their thing as only they can. As months go by and other families endure some of the same things this family has, it is easy to see how this family is in a unique class all of their own. Not sure what class it is, but I want no part of it!

Hope everyone is doing well!

[101Spots]

that hasn't happened yet :shrug: so the odds are not in cindy's favor. would that make it not a vigil then?

Potato, pahtawtoe, I guess.

Aside from the definition, I always think of vigils as "wishing for something" (someone to come home, be found alive, etc.). I don't think of them as "remembering someone."

But I could be wrong.

[Sun]

vigil n., 1. (a) a period of keeping awake during a time usually spent asleep, especially to keep watch or pray (b) a stationary, peaceful demonstration in support of a particular cause, typically without speeches

I guess "vigil" would be acceptable as long as Cindy keeps her mouth shut. Figure the odds on that happening.....

chuckles.... I was just doing to look up the definition of "vigil" and saw your posting just moments before doing it. We have the same thought processes going here today!

There are lots to be gained from prayer. However, I see no peace when it comes to the Anthonys and their actions. Their lies.

[KP1935]

Someone should explain to her that it's considered a bit trashy to wear her entire inventory all at the same time.

Just wait....soon she's going to breakout the "I pity the fool who believes my daughter did this!" Wearing all that jewelry, I can only believe she's going to for the Mr. T look! :scared:

:biggrin:

[jammies]

Just wait....soon she's going to breakout the "I pity the fool who believes my daughter did this!" Wearing all that jewelry, I can only believe she's going to for the Mr. T look! :scared:

:biggrin:



Ya can't fix stupid and apparently, ya can't fix "tacky" either. :rolleyes:

[5boxersmom]

I emailed KB last night about the doc realease but haven't heard anything. Has anyone?

[101Spots]

Ya can't fix stupid and apparently, ya can't fix "tacky" either. :rolleyes:


Cindy's Theme Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-GmnHhUgLA)

:lol:

[GumShoeJoe]

I have never understood why Lee needed a separate lawyer from his parents.

lol Wouldn't you, if they were your parents?

[Julie Dupree]

Interesting article in the "CayleeDaily" today...check it out.

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/deception-analysis-of-george-cindy-anthony/

[happygert]

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But from get go I dont remember any family or friends coming out to help c&g.. This tends to lead me to believe (1) they had no friends .(2) the family DID NOT believe casey c,g or L.story..there was one of g's friends from ohio but that was after casey was out on bond in August.. Is it possible they had no friends because they were also caught in lies by their friends or they also knew that the whole darn family was narcissistic and pyhscotic and no one wanted to be associated with the A's?

[neid_77]

IMO, the phone call Casey made home screams volumes about Casey's concern for Caylee and her relationship with her family.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16991942/index.html

listening to this know just makes your jaw drop even further just a phone call full of lies and lies alone!! here actions and words speak loudly...when here friend get's upset and becomes a waste huge wast she becomes even more mad...unreal..this woman is cold ...cold as ice....as cold as the air get's in the artic!

why would you ever say ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS FINDING CAYLEE......why would you ever say that in anyway if that was also your main goal....if any tape the jury listens to i hope it is this one!:cursing:

Caylee Marie:wub:

[ish]

i think he'll break. even if just to free himself from cindy....the same "income" she enjoys now, so does he. she isn't supporting him financially at this point.

jmo

If he gets on that stand, tells the truth and Casey is convicted, things on HopeSpring Dr will be very TENSE. Cindy will blame George for throwing Casey under a bus, even though I think despite all her public support of Casey, she wants to see her punished for Caylee's death. I have always believed Cindy was quite happy to see Casey taken off to jail, it was the satisfaction of seeing her answering (finally) for all her lies. I'm sure Cindy had told Casey countless number of times over the years that someday her lies would get her in trouble and now they were. My guess is that Cindy has not so much put pen to paper to communicate with Casey (and vice versa).

[ish]

that sure looks like a different Mally-Bu than I saw at the memorial service..but whatever. Wonder if they are waiting to get married until Casey gets out...:biggrinjester:

Looks very different from "frumpy" Mally Bu who was "feeding the dogs" the day Caylee was found and LE asked her to leave the Anthony premises.

[summer]

Interesting article in the "CayleeDaily" today...check it out.

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/deception-analysis-of-george-cindy-anthony/

Hi Julie - Thanks for the link. Interesting article but still too many excuses for George and Cindy's behavior. No one should be blamed for loving their children but the way this they have behaved is beyond the pale.

I draw the line at blaming innocent people, other parents children, for something they know their daughter did or was capable of doing.

That makes them despicable in my book and there are no excuses. None.

IMO JMO MOO

[summer]

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But from get go I dont remember any family or friends coming out to help c&g.. This tends to lead me to believe (1) they had no friends .(2) the family DID NOT believe casey c,g or L.story..there was one of g's friends from ohio but that was after casey was out on bond in August.. Is it possible they had no friends because they were also caught in lies by their friends or they also knew that the whole darn family was narcissistic and pyhscotic and no one wanted to be associated with the A's?

I saw a clip on the news last night. A young woman was murdered and her family was too distraught to talk to the public. So a friend of the family gave a brief statement to the media. Standing behind him were dozens of friends and relatives, all showing their support and love for the grief-stricken family.

Quite a contrast to the A's, no?

[happygert]

If he gets on that stand, tells the truth and Casey is convicted, things on HopeSpring Dr will be very TENSE. Cindy will blame George for throwing Casey under a bus, even though I think despite all her public support of Casey, she wants to see her punished for Caylee's death. I have always believed Cindy was quite happy to see Casey taken off to jail, it was the satisfaction of seeing her answering (finally) for all her lies. I'm sure Cindy had told Casey countless number of times over the years that someday her lies would get her in trouble and now they were. My guess is that Cindy has not so much put pen to paper to communicate with Casey (and vice versa).

IMO "TENSE" has already moved in at the A's.. I'll bet g had he*l to pay after the GJ testimony.. It's only going to get worse.. If g don't tell the same thing on stand that he told the GJ the d.a's office will chew him up.. They are going to have a field day anyway with all the lies they've told..

[BlueTurtle]

How do you have a vigil for someone who is already dead? Isn't that a memorial?

According to Merriam-Webster's online dictionary: watch on the eve of a feast, from Latin, wakefulness, watch, from vigil awake, watchful; akin to Latin vigēre to be vigorous

1 a: a watch formerly kept on the night before a religious feast with prayer or other devotions b: the day before a religious feast observed as a day of spiritual preparation c: evening or nocturnal devotions or prayers —usually used in plural
2: the act of keeping awake at times when sleep is customary ; also : a period of wakefulness
3: an act or period of watching or surveillance : watch <kept vigil at her bedside>


The Anthony clan seem to be educated, but use words in ways that are not correct in the context. Casey does this a lot. She throws in words that could be seen as educated, but is wrong in the usage.


I agree it should be a memorial or some other observation to commemorate her life.

[summer]

IMO "TENSE" has already moved in at the A's.. I'll bet g had he*l to pay after the GJ testimony.. It's only going to get worse.. If g don't tell the same thing on stand that he told the GJ the d.a's office will chew him up.. They are going to have a field day anyway with all the lies they've told..

I truly wonder what George did tell the GJ. We always assume he told the truth but who knows? I don't count on it.

[happygert]

I saw a clip on the news last night. A young woman was murdered and her family was too distraught to talk to the public. So a friend of the family gave a brief statement to the media. Standing behind him were dozens of friends and relatives, all showing their support and love for the grief-stricken family.

Quite a contrast to the A's, no?

Yes it sure is...IMO thats says a lot about this family..only people who have spoke for the a's are attorneys and dc, and of course thats what they are paid for..

[happygert]

I truly wonder what George did tell the GJ. We always assume he told the truth but who knows? I don't count on it.

So do I, not sure if he told the truth or not, but the warrant for murder charges against casey came down same day the g testified at the GJ 10/4/2008..

[summer]

So do I, not sure if he told the truth or not, but the warrant for murder charges against casey came down same day the g testified at the GJ 10/4/2008..

Yeah, I think we (I) always gave him too much credit for that indictment. I'm betting they could've gotten it without him. Maybe it would've taken the GJ 45 minutes instead of 30. IMO.

[happygert]

Yeah, I think we (I) always gave him too much credit for that indictment. I'm betting they could've gotten it without him. Maybe it would've taken the GJ 45 minutes instead of 30. IMO.

Yes summer you're right.. heck maybe they already had the warrant ready, and they wanted to lock g's testimony in before they arrested her..

[martha]

No I don't think you are wrong.
They did not receive any kind of immunity. I so hope you or right and they have not received any kind of immunity it scared me to death when I read a post that said they had gotten immunity. Why would le give them immunity? why would they want immunity? they all say they have done nothing wrong and have always told the truth.ha,jmho

[happygert]

I so hope you or right and they have not received any kind of immunity it scared me to death when I read a post that said they had gotten immunity. Why would le give them immunity? why would they want immunity? they all say they have done nothing wrong and have always told the truth.ha,jmho

Exactly Martha.. they wanted immunity.. people who have done nothing wrong dont need immunity.. but they think they need it. WHY? IMO because they are into this murder up to their eyeballs.. they may not have committed the murder but they dang sure knew about it and was helping casey for those 31 days before they reported it.. IMO they also knew exactly where Caylee's body was long before it was found.

[martha]

Looks very different from "frumpy" Mally Bu who was "feeding the dogs" the day Caylee was found and LE asked her to leave the Anthony premises.I will never believe she went to feed the dogs. she was there for some other reason but just don;t know what it was. she is in this too. I am sure she is doing what ever Lee wants her to do. She really needs to get away from the a;s but I guess she can;t see that now. Does she have a lawyer yet? She might need to get one like everyone elce that knows the a;s.jmho

[martha]

Exactly Martha.. they wanted immunity.. people who have done nothing wrong dont need immunity.. but they think they need it. WHY? IMO because they are into this murder up to their eyeballs.. they may not have comitted the murder but they dang sure knew about it and was helping casey for those 31 days before they reported it.. IMO they also knew exactly where Caylee's body was long before it was found. You or so right and I total agree with you. They all need to have to stand up to what they have done and stop taking everyone for a fool. I don;t know of anyone that would act like the a;s have. jmho

[trich]

I truly wonder what George did tell the GJ. We always assume he told the truth but who knows? I don't count on it.

He had to have told enough to get the GJ to indict.
Not to mention he had already been deposed.
I think if he in any way changes his testimony he will be in big trouble.
I don't think he can get away with "I made a mistake" or" I don't remember".
It is all recorded and sworn to.

[happygert]

I will never believe she went to feed the dogs. she was there for some other reason but just don;t know what it was. she is in this too. I am sure she is doing what ever Lee wants her to do. She really needs to get away from the a;s but I guess she can;t see that now. Does she have a lawyer yet? She might need to get one like everyone elce that knows the a;s.jmho

Martha I agree with you .. It took her 5 minutes to answer the door when police were there..what was she doing? why did it take her so long to answer?

[trich]

You know I stated that the Anthonys did not get any kind of immunity.
I am not sure that is correct.
I believe I was thinking of Casey ....
But I certainly hope Cindy , George or Lee did not get immunity.
I also someone knows for sure or can find a link telling us what is true.