July 23

[Bala]

I would love to know where they got the $664. from since the A's aren't working and Casey is in jail. Is this what they are doing with the donation from the foundation financing Casey's defense? Wouldn't this be considered fraudulent use of the money donated to find "missing children"?

[shelkobe]

Grrr. I just made a post on the other thread and then it closed, so I'm pasting it here even though it makes no sense out of context. :tonguewag:

I use my back door on a daily basis and do not always retrieve my mail from the front door every day, so I don't see that as a big deal with the Anthonys. I do, however, look at my front door whenever I drive into my driveway because I order online and I look for boxes by the door or smaller ones inside my screen door. The only other thing I can think of with the Anthonys and the mail is that perhaps because of their financial problems they avoided checking the mail regularly because they knew most of it were bills. :unsure:

[desmom]

I still don't get how a money order sent to BOA to repay for stolen funds can be repaid by someone from the defense team or Casey herself can result in a plea of not guilty!!!!

It doesn't make sense to me either. IMO, he is admitting her guilt by paying the debt.

I am hoping one of our legal eagles will weigh in on JB's office sending BOA a money order for the amount they lost in Casey's forgeries before Casey has been found guilty of the charges.

I also question why they would send a money order. Doesn't he have a business account? Why pay the fee that is charged for money orders?

jmo

[desmom]

One year ago today.....July 23, 2008

‘Credible’ Tip of Missing Girl on Flight Surfaces; Investigators Checking
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16962120/detail.html

Missing Girl May Be Dead, Detective Says; Mom’s Car Smelled of Decomposition
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16956173/detail.html

Source of Decomposition Smells in Yard, Car Possibly Moved in Missing Girl Mystery, Detectives Say
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16965987/detail.html

‘Credible’ Tipster Questioned in Missing Girl Mystery; Mom’s Release Conditions Change
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16969381/detail.html

Crime Expert Analyzes Casey Anthony Case, Evidence
http://www.wftv.com/news/16968013/detail.html

Judge Sets Bond at $500,000 for Mother of Missing 2-Year-Old
http://www.wftv.com/news/16968520/detail.html

Anthony Family Says Caylee is Alive, Trying to Post Bond
http://www.wftv.com/news/16968857/detail.html

Undisclosed Holds Put on Release of Missing Toddler’s Mother
http://www.wftv.com/news/16954576/detail.html

Official Document For Casey Anthony Bond
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0723/16968684.pdf

Expert Analyzes Case As Family Tries To Post Bond
http://www.wftv.com/video/16968766/index.html

"She’s not dead!!" Grandmother Responds To Abuse Allegations
http://www.wftv.com/video/16964481/index.html

Caylee Anthony Closed Threads Links Only Thread #1
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=338043


LE interviewed:

Amy Huizenga http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement

Amy gave LE her cell phone.
Cell phone report part 1: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678501/Casey-Anthony---Amy-Huizenga-text-messages-part-1
Cell phone report part 2 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5103535/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-Part-2-text-messaging
Cell phone report part 3 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1678505/Casey-Anthony---Amy-Huizenga-text-messages-Part-3---Caylee-Anthony

[shelkobe]

I would love to know where they got the $664. from since the A's aren't working and Casey is in jail. Is this what they are doing with the donation from the foundation financing Casey's defense? Wouldn't this be considered fraudulent use of the money donated to find "missing children"?
I haven't been here in a while but I'm not sure what the point of paying that back is, the crime was still committed. I guess Jose thinks he's slick.

[cassidy]

It doesn't make sense to me either. IMO, he is admitting her guilt by paying the debt.

I am hoping one of our legal eagles will weigh in on JB's office sending BOA a money order for the amount they lost in Casey's forgeries before Casey has been found guilty of the charges.

I also question why they would send a money order. Doesn't he have a business account? Why pay the fee that is charged for money orders?
jmo

Who knows with them? Maybe they counted all the change from the donation jars and finally had enough to pay this off? It is odd that it would be in the form of a money order though.

[msgatorslayer]

I typed out this response on the last thread and it was closed by the time I hit submit.

The Anthony's cannot answer anything outright, with the truth. They have to always think of their image and how others will perceive their answers.

IMO, they didn't run to the post office to collect the letter because it wasn't that important to them. It said "Johnsons' on it and that was not a place they recognize. Not only was it bad news, it was bad news that they knew nothing about.

But they can't just say that. They have to spin it into something more than it is. By lying and saying they didn't see it for a couple of days.

The last registered letter I got was one I was anticipating. It was from the tax collectors office informing me that I was officially no longer entitled to a Homestead excemption on my old place.

I waited about 3 days before picking it up. I knew what it was. There was no hurry to get it.

[Scampi]

It doesn't make sense to me either. IMO, he is admitting her guilt by paying the debt.

I am hoping one of our legal eagles will weigh in on JB's office sending BOA a money order for the amount they lost in Casey's forgeries before Casey has been found guilty of the charges.

I also question why they would send a money order. Doesn't he have a business account? Why pay the fee that is charged for money orders?

jmo

The "not guilty" plea probably has to do with the fairytale they will spin that poor casey "thought" she and Amy had an agreement that she could use Amy's checks and funds while she was in PR. Cuz you know casey would never intentionally steal or do any other outrageous activities. :rolleyes:

or

The uttering of the checks was a form of poor casey's "ugly coping" in which she would do anything, in her search for the kidnappers and her daughter..............:laugh:

Neither lie will fly with a jury, imo.

[bchand]

[QUOTE=desmom;13303992]One year ago today.....July 23, 2008

‘Credible’ Tip of Missing Girl on Flight Surfaces; Investigators Checking
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16962120/detail.html

<<snipped>>


So according to police investigations this tip from Wanda Wery was basically a lie right? I believe they discovered that there was no young girl on the same flight as hers. And yet Jose says :

Attorney Jose Baez said the girl was spotted at Orlando International Airport.
"Someone said they were 99 percent sure they spotted her at the airport boarding a flight or on a flight to Atlanta," Baez said.

Good to keep in mind about Jose's statements.

[desmom]

Grrr. I just made a post on the other thread and then it closed, so I'm pasting it here even though it makes no sense out of context. :tonguewag:

I use my back door on a daily basis and do not always retrieve my mail from the front door every day, so I don't see that as a big deal with the Anthonys. I do, however, look at my front door whenever I drive into my driveway because I order online and I look for boxes by the door or smaller ones inside my screen door. The only other thing I can think of with the Anthonys and the mail is that perhaps because of their financial problems they avoided checking the mail regularly because they knew most of it were bills. :unsure:

:seeya:

Did you see Really3997's post here http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13302542#post13302542

I do not buy the note was stuck to the front door. How often are registered/certified letters good news? IMO, very rarely.

I think they had the notice for several days before they went to get the letter trying to figure out who would send them a registered letter. IMO, saying the notice was stuck to the front door and we did not see it sounds better than "we had the notice for several days and ignored it." The A's do have a history of mis-truths, imo.

[Bala]

There is a lot of shady business going on. Most parents have to morgage their home to help pay for their childs defense the A's seem to be paying their morgage off instead. No ones working yet there seems to be lots of money.

[bchand]

I typed out this response on the last thread and it was closed by the time I hit submit.

The Anthony's cannot answer anything outright, with the truth. They have to always think of their image and how others will perceive their answers.

IMO, they didn't run to the post office to collect the letter because it wasn't that important to them. It said "Johnsons' on it and that was not a place they recognize. Not only was it bad news, it was bad news that they knew nothing about.

But they can't just say that. They have to spin it into something more than it is. By lying and saying they didn't see it for a couple of days.

The last registered letter I got was one I was anticipating. It was from the tax collectors office informing me that I was officially no longer entitled to a Homestead excemption on my old place.

I waited about 3 days before picking it up. I knew what it was. There was no hurry to get it.


BUT, as someone asked last night, if my grandchild had been missing for a month, a registered letter would make me very nervous. I couldn't ignore it.

From your link on the other thread also msgator -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-missing-kids-what-to-do-072309,0,7514907.story

If your child disappears, it's critical to act quickly

Lunsford said people who offered to help him find Jessica were only interested in helping themselves.

"Really, all they wanted was exposure. They never did anything to help," he said. "It's just so disturbing when I look back on it."

Kesse said parents need research on the people who are approaching them. Are they a legitimate group? Are they simply looking to profit themselves?

We know who the real maggots and leaches were. The Anthonys still don't get it.

[cassidy]

BUT, as someone asked last night, if my grandchild had been missing for a month, a registered letter would make me very nervous. I couldn't ignore it.

From your link on the other thread also msgator -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-missing-kids-what-to-do-072309,0,7514907.story

If your child disappears, it's critical to act quickly

Lunsford said people who offered to help him find Jessica were only interested in helping themselves.

"Really, all they wanted was exposure. They never did anything to help," he said. "It's just so disturbing when I look back on it."

Kesse said parents need research on the people who are approaching them. Are they a legitimate group? Are they simply looking to profit themselves?

We know who the real maggots and leaches were. The Anthonys still don't get it.

Those are such sad statements. Just when a family is probably at it
s all time low, in march the maggots and leaches looking for an easy way to grab a buck.

[Neffy]

The "not guilty" plea probably has to do with the fairytale they will spin that poor casey "thought" she and Amy had an agreement that she could use Amy's checks and funds while she was in PR. Cuz you know casey would never intentionally steal or do any other outrageous activities. :rolleyes:

or

The uttering of the checks was a form of poor casey's "ugly coping" in which she would do anything, in her search for the kidnappers and her daughter..............:laugh:

Neither lie will fly with a jury, imo.

:seeya:

Pleading not guilty is a way of having your day in court to reduce the charges.

I was driving on an expired license and was stopped for speeding. I obtained an attorney who had me plead not guilty. I told her I'll sing like a bird if asked in court, confess because I am guilty (bad liar). She laughed and said that's the way we do it. I went to court, showed my license was reactivated and only paid the speeding ticket. Expired license dropped.


My guess this is what Baez and Co is doing. They will go to court and show restitution. This is a more severe charge then a speeding ticket so we'll see.

[desmom]

The "not guilty" plea probably has to do with the fairytale they will spin that poor casey "thought" she and Amy had an agreement that she could use Amy's checks and funds while she was in PR. Cuz you know casey would never intentionally steal or do any other outrageous activities. :rolleyes:

or

The uttering of the checks was a form of poor casey's "ugly coping" in which she would do anything, in her search for the kidnappers and her daughter..............:laugh:

Neither lie will fly with a jury, imo.

Will the jury hear:

page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Grund,%20Richard-0905.pdf
“She ripped Jesse off for two hundred and fifty dollars. He paid a phone bill for her and she gave Jesse a bad check.” Her response was, “Well she only did it once.”

The checks she took from her brother Lee and Ryan?
page 26 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

The check Casey stole from her Grandmother in 07 to buy $54 worth of party items at Publix? pages 9-10 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview

The $354 check she stole from her Grandfather to pay her AT&T bill in the Spring of 2008? pages 10 - 11 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview

Side Note: I just noticed Shirley's bank account(s) are with BOA. Amy also banked at BOA. No wonder BOA wants to press charges. :lol:

[shelkobe]

:seeya:

Did you see Really3997's post here http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13302542#post13302542

I do not buy the note was stuck to the front door. How often are registered/certified letters good news? IMO, very rarely.

I think they had the notice for several days before they went to get the letter trying to figure out who would send them a registered letter. IMO, saying the notice was stuck to the front door and we did not see it sounds better than "we had the notice for several days and ignored it." The A's do have a history of mis-truths, imo.I missed that, thanks. Now you have me thinking. I think it's UPS and the others who will tape to the door for a signature, not the PO. I can't remember what my post office does though.

[msgatorslayer]

BUT, as someone asked last night, if my grandchild had been missing for a month, a registered letter would make me very nervous. I couldn't ignore it.

From your link on the other thread also msgator -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-missing-kids-what-to-do-072309,0,7514907.story

If your child disappears, it's critical to act quickly

Lunsford said people who offered to help him find Jessica were only interested in helping themselves.

"Really, all they wanted was exposure. They never did anything to help," he said. "It's just so disturbing when I look back on it."

Kesse said parents need research on the people who are approaching them. Are they a legitimate group? Are they simply looking to profit themselves?

We know who the real maggots and leaches were. The Anthonys still don't get it.

Cindy was more concerned with not being able to control Casey once she left the home. Her 'Caylee is missing' post was a ruse to get to Casey. IMO.

I don't think Cindy's mind was ever really concerned about Caylee being 'missing' for those 31 days. When that letter came in the mail, Caylee wasn't on her mind. Casey was. What has she done now, George? I can hear her say.

They aren't Caylee's legal guardians. Their Daughter moved outta the house. There would be no reason for a registered letter to come to them in regards to Caylee. Since Casey is an adult, there would be no reason for anything in regards to her to be addressed to them either.

Oh, but the car she drove was registered to them. They may have spend some time investigating WHO Johnson's was.

[Unleashed]

I haven't been here in a while but I'm not sure what the point of paying that back is, the crime was still committed. I guess Jose thinks he's slick.

If slick can be described as oily, slimy or greasy, he is.:sneaky:

jmo

[Bala]

If BOA reimbursed both Amy and Shirley will both cases come up during the fraud case?

[Unleashed]

Will the jury hear:

page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Grund,%20Richard-0905.pdf
“She ripped Jesse off for two hundred and fifty dollars. He paid a phone bill for her and she gave Jesse a bad check.” Her response was, “Well she only did it once.”

The checks she took from her brother Lee and Ryan?
page 26 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

The check Casey stole from her Grandmother in 07 to buy $54 worth of party items at Publix? pages 9-10 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview

The $354 check she stole from her Grandfather to pay her AT&T bill in the Spring of 2008? pages 10 - 11 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview

Side Note: I just noticed Shirley's bank account(s) are with BOA. Amy also banked at BOA. No wonder BOA wants to press charges. :lol:


Not that it matters, I'm just curious ~ will this case go before a jury?

jmo

[desmom]

If BOA reimbursed both Amy and Shirley will both cases come up during the fraud case?

Not sure. IIRC, they did reimburse Shirley's accounts. The $54 check had Casey's license on the back of it per Shirley on page 9 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview . The bank was able to track the check wrote to AT&T to Casey's cell phone account. Is there a time limit on forgery charges?

The $354 and the $54 taken from Shirley's account would probably cost the bank more in attorney's fees than the amount they lost. Throw in the $664.25 she stole from Amy's account and now she is into BOA for over a $1,000.

IMO, BOA could no longer ignore it.

[cassidy]

Maybe because they don't want anyone to know exactly who paid for this??? Not being drawn on a specific account like a check???

So if someone else is paying for it, what's Casey supposed to learn?

Nevermind, she already has that lesson down pat. Clean-up after Casey, aisle #10, #11, #12...et al and forever.

And yet again. no consequences for Casey.

[sammy62]

There is a lot of shady business going on. Most parents have to morgage their home to help pay for their childs defense the A's seem to be paying their morgage off instead. No ones working yet there seems to be lots of money.

When my husband and I were working (retired now), we never had a lot of extra money floating around. We had a good 401k...but that was not assessable.

It has always amazed me that they had all that money to get the car out of impound...to have all that cash laying around house for casey to steal.

I wonder where all that money was coming from back then.

[desmom]

Maybe because they don't want anyone to know exactly who paid for this??? Not being drawn on a specific account like a check???

If they did not want anyone to know who paid it, why would they send it from JB's office?

BOA letter to JB: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20134032/detail.html This letter is to acknowledge the delivery of a money order received from your office on Friday, July 10, 2009.

[msgatorslayer]

Not that it matters, I'm just curious ~ will this case go before a jury?

jmo

Gawd, I say plead guilty and get it over. She's on tape. She signed her name. There isn't anything to defend.

But no, Baez has even mentioned the possibility of a COV for check charges. :cursing:

[sammy62]

So if someone else is paying for it, what's Casey supposed to learn?

Nevermind, she already has that lesson down pat. Clean-up after Casey, aisle #10, #11, #12...et al and forever.

And yet again. no consequences for Casey.

:thumbsup: too funny

[margaritaville]

It doesn't make sense to me either. IMO, he is admitting her guilt by paying the debt.
I am hoping one of our legal eagles will weigh in on JB's office sending BOA a money order for the amount they lost in Casey's forgeries before Casey has been found guilty of the charges.

I also question why they would send a money order. Doesn't he have a business account? Why pay the fee that is charged for money orders?

jmo

ITA also... I remember reading a few days ago a poster claimed that there was an agreement between Casey and Amy that Casey could use her checkbook and write checks in the amount that Amy owed to casey..(I can't remember what the money was from)

[Bala]

I think that Baez is trying to hide more than just Casey's fraud charges from the jury there's also the video and receipt that shows Casey bought absolutely nothing for Caylee on her shopping sprees. Caylee was the furthest thing from her mind.

[desmom]

ITA also... I remember reading a few days ago a poster claimed that there was an agreement between Casey and Amy that Casey could use her checkbook and write checks in the amount that Amy owed to casey..(I can't remember what the money was from)

And that makes absolutely no sense. Wouldn't it still be forgery since Casey's name is not on the account? Why wouldn't Amy just write Casey one check for the amount due?

I think this was a Casey story about the airline tickets. IMO, the text messages between Amy and Casey show that Casey did not buy tickets for any of the crew that went to PR.

jmo

[Kathlb]

Gawd, I say plead guilty and get it over. She's on tape. She signed her name. There isn't anything to defend.

But no, Baez has even mentioned the possibility of a COV for check charges. :cursing:

:tongueside: I wonder if the law school that Jose supposedly attended get a shiver up their spine whenever he opens his mouth?? He obviously knows less about the law than most of the posters here do. It's amazing that he is still onboard. Also, I keep waiting and waiting to learn what Judge Strickland filed with the state bar assn. against Baez. I know what Casey, the PI, filed about but not the judge. And I think that knowledge will be interesting. Why is the bar assn. taking so long to investigate it I wonder??

[Tia]

Gawd, I say plead guilty and get it over. She's on tape. She signed her name. There isn't anything to defend.

But no, Baez has even mentioned the possibility of a COV for check charges. :cursing:

Baez could request a COV to the moon and get it and Casey would STILL look guilty as sin!! I just can't believe the amount of states money being wasted on this child murderer and thief. I'd be pizzed if I were a resident of florida. I understand she deserves a fair trial and has the right to have an attorney, but why so many attorneys???!

The whole thing is disgusting.

[margaritaville]

Not sure. IIRC, they did reimburse Shirley's accounts. The $54 check had Casey's license on the back of it per Shirley on page 9 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5042392/Shirley-Plesea-Interview . The bank was able to track the check wrote to AT&T to Casey's cell phone account. Is there a time limit on forgery charges?

The $354 and the $54 taken from Shirley's account would probably cost the bank more in attorney's fees than the amount they lost. Throw in the $664.25 she stole from Amy's account and now she is into BOA for over a $1,000.

IMO, BOA could no longer ignore it.

Any one know if Cindy filed charges against Casey the night of the 15th? That was the reason she had the Sherriff's come out to her house. She stated she had someone who needs to be arrested for stealing a car and money??

Could those charges still go through even if Cindy dropped them???


Dispatcher: for what

Cindy: For stealing an auto and stealing money. I already spoke with someone. They said they would patch me through to the Orlando Sheriff's Department have a deputy here. I was in the car... I was going to drive her to the police station and no one's open. They said they would bring a deputy to my home when I got home to call them.

Dispatcher: so she stole your vehicle

Cindy: yes

Dispatcher: when did she do that?

Cindy: on the 30th. I just got it back from the impound. I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have someone come out to my house?


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036924/2008-0715-911-Calls-Made-by-Cindy-Anthony

[cassidy]

Any one know if Cindy filed charges against Casey the night of the 15th? That was the reason she had the Sherriff's come out to her house. She stated she had someone who needs to be arrested for stealing a car and money??

Could those charges still go through even if Cindy dropped them???


Dispatcher: for what

Cindy: For stealing an auto and stealing money. I already spoke with someone. They said they would patch me through to the Orlando Sheriff's Department have a deputy here. I was in the car... I was going to drive her to the police station and no one's open. They said they would bring a deputy to my home when I got home to call them.

Dispatcher: so she stole your vehicle

Cindy: yes

Dispatcher: when did she do that?

Cindy: on the 30th. I just got it back from the impound. I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have someone come out to my house?


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036924/2008-0715-911-Calls-Made-by-Cindy-Anthony

Cindy never officially filed those charges. Things started spinning out of control that nite.

[desmom]

Gawd, I say plead guilty and get it over. She's on tape. She signed her name. There isn't anything to defend.

But no, Baez has even mentioned the possibility of a COV for check charges. :cursing:

Would the courts grant a COV for the check charges? IMO, that seems like a lot of expense (transportation and lodging for witnesses and court personnel) for $654 in forged checks.

[margaritaville]

Cindy press charges??? You need a vacation...:biggrinjester:


Okay I guess I didn't make my question clear enough.....

If Cindy does not press charges can Casey still be charged with them??

I know with physical altercations when the police are called (lets say a man and woman are fighting I n their front yard) they arrest one for battery.
the other person can choose to not press charges, but sometimes the county or city does anyway..
And then it becomes the county vs. Fred Doe.......

So could the county still charge Casey or is that only in domestic/assault type charges??
moo

[desmom]

I would really like to see the letter JB's office sent with the money order to BOA.

I wonder if Lyons knew he was going to send the money order.

jmo

[Tia]

Would the courts grant a COV for the check charges? IMO, that seems like a lot of expense (transportation and lodging for witnesses and court personnel) for $654 in forged checks.

I truly hope they don't grant the COV. It will be a HUGE WASTE!! :tongueside:

[Dells]

I haven't been here in a while but I'm not sure what the point of paying that back is, the crime was still committed. I guess Jose thinks he's slick.

I think by paying BOA back, JB thought it could help delay the fraud trial since "restitution" had been paid.:sneaky:

I truly think the defense knows that Casey is guilty of the fraud and they know that she will definitely be convicted. I think they are just trying to delay it until after her murder trial because if the fraud case goes first, then she will already by a convicted felon by the time the murder case goes to trial. Having the felony conviction on her record will effect her in a negative way at sentencing for the murder trial.

Also, the defense has probably resigned themselves to the fact that Casey will be found guilty of murder, so if the fraud case is delayed until after the murder trial, it would probably never take place. She will either get LWOP or the DP, so why even try the fraud case then?

I think the defense knows that trying the fraud case first will only hurt Casey and her murder trial, so they are trying every tactic in the book to make it go away for now. It seems ridiculous that they are entering a plea of not guilty for it right now, but they are only doing it to form the pretense that they want it to go to trial. If they plead guilty to it right now then Casey would be a convicted felon then.

[msgatorslayer]

Would the courts grant a COV for the check charges? IMO, that seems like a lot of expense (transportation and lodging for witnesses and court personnel) for $654 in forged checks.

I've only heard of COV's in high profile murder cases.

I don't know if it has been done, or can be done, for $654 in forged checks, lol. ITA, rather excessive to ask the State to do it.

[Lavinia]

THIS is really weird... Over on the Orlando Sentinel story that many of us commented on about the Milstead's and Anthony's being interviewed for the story of missing children, they attribute a comment to me (ratched), that I DEFINITELY didn't make. I made the first comment attributed to me but not the other. What could have caused that? :confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-looking-for-missing-kids-072209,0,4510627,comment-display-all.story

[margaritaville]

I thought this was a nice list. There are many many more but definitely a starter........Also at the bottom someone wrote Cindy's top 10 list also..

partial list...


Alleged Lie #1 - On or around June 9, Casey told her parents that she had arranged for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez to babysit Caylee so she could go on a business trip as a requirement of her employment with Universal Studios. She later changed her story and stated that she was going on a short vacation with friends. Meanwhile, Casey told her friends that Caylee had gone on a vacation with her babysitter.

Alleged Lie #2 - Casey offered a variety of explanations with regard to Caylee's whereabouts until July 15 when she claimed that her daughter had been abducted by her babysitter approximately 31 days prior to that date.

Alleged Lie #3 - Casey told investigators that she had not seen Caylee since June 9 when she dropped her off with her babysitter. However, when they went to the apartment complex in which Fernandez-Gonzalez reportedly lived, investigators discovered that the apartment had been vacant for several months.

Alleged Lie #4 - Casey told investigators that Fernandez-Gonzalez had also lived at a complex on North Hillside Drive. However, when they went to the location, they discovered that it was a senior living facility.

Alleged Lie #5 - Casey told Investigators that Fernandez-Gonzalez's mother lived in The Crossings at Conway, a community in Orlando. However, when they went to the community, they were unable to find anyone who knew an individual with the last name Fernandez-Gonzalez.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/casey-anthonys.html

[Neffy]

THIS is really weird... Over on the Orlando Sentinel story that many of us commented on about the Milstead's and Anthony's being interviewed for the story of missing children, they attribute a comment to me (ratched), that I DEFINITELY didn't make. I made the first comment attributed to me but not the other. What could have caused that? :confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-looking-for-missing-kids-072209,0,4510627,comment-display-all.story

The other Ratched? :sneaky: :laugh:

[Pam1569]

Gawd, I say plead guilty and get it over. She's on tape. She signed her name. There isn't anything to defend.

But no, Baez has even mentioned the possibility of a COV for check charges. :cursing:

GM msgator, Baez filed for COV for the both criminal cases the same day. It seems he wants them both moved or tried together. imo

[Lavinia]

The other Ratched? <STOLE YOUR SNEAKY> :laugh:

:tonguewag: I didn't even realize I had registered there yesterday when I was going to leave that comment, so I tried to register and it told me that name was already taken. That's when I realized I must already be registered. Is everyone else's posts attributed correctly? I can get in enough trouble without someone else speaking for me. :glare:

[ish]

BUT, as someone asked last night, if my grandchild had been missing for a month, a registered letter would make me very nervous. I couldn't ignore it.

From your link on the other thread also msgator -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-missing-kids-what-to-do-072309,0,7514907.story

If your child disappears, it's critical to act quickly

Lunsford said people who offered to help him find Jessica were only interested in helping themselves.

"Really, all they wanted was exposure. They never did anything to help," he said. "It's just so disturbing when I look back on it."

Kesse said parents need research on the people who are approaching them. Are they a legitimate group? Are they simply looking to profit themselves?

We know who the real maggots and leaches were. The Anthonys still don't get it.

But as long as the Anthonys don't admit that they thought Caylee was missing, they are able to say none of these cirumstances raised a red flag. My opinion is that even learning the car was towed didn't upset them in relation to Caylee, it was more frustration that Casey's irresponsibility was costing them money. The tiny little voice that was nagging Cindy all month, that just perhaps something was wrong, Cindy only started to listen to it when she smelled that car. Once she got hold of Casey and realized Caylee was nowhere around, she began to panic. I think she covers for Casey in an effort to make herself look better. If she can convince people Casey was a good, caring, loving mother, then Cindy doesn't look like such an idiot for not knowing her grand daughters whereabouts for 30 days.

[Pam1569]

I would really like to see the letter JB's office sent with the money order to BOA.

I wonder if Lyons knew he was going to send the money order.

jmo

:seeya: desmom, I am sure that Lyon is fully aware that he did this. IMO Lyon and he sent the money order in the mail the evening of the 7th of July, which is when they had the conference in the judge's quarters. jmo Plus another thing it usually takes two days for mail delivery in the same city. So if Baez put it in the mail on the night of the 7th and the post office picked it up on the 8th, then imo BofA would have received as they state in the letter on the 10th of July.

[margaritaville]

If Cindy doesn't press charges, none will be filed as this was personal property as opposed to the bank.

Thanks~

marg

[Neffy]

:tonguewag: I didn't even realize I had registered there yesterday when I was going to leave that comment, so I tried to register and it told me that name was already taken. That's when I realized I must already be registered. Is everyone else's posts attributed correctly? I can get in enough trouble without someone else speaking for me. :glare:

LOL Hey you! Looks like someone is doing some cut and paste editing due to the backlash over there.
I read it and it didn't sound like you if that helps :)

[Pam1569]

I have some nagging questions that I thought you all might be able to answer.

1) Did Lee Anthony talk with the FBI? And if so where is the interview?

2) Has LE every checked Cindy's computer at work?

TIA :smile:

[Lavinia]

LOL Hey you! Looks like someone is doing some cut and paste editing due to the backlash over there.
I read it and it didn't sound like you if that helps :)

That DOES help, lol! Thanks. (I contacted them.)

[marinewife5]

BUT, as someone asked last night, if my grandchild had been missing for a month, a registered letter would make me very nervous. I couldn't ignore it.

From your link on the other thread also msgator -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-missing-kids-what-to-do-072309,0,7514907.story

If your child disappears, it's critical to act quickly

Lunsford said people who offered to help him find Jessica were only interested in helping themselves.

"Really, all they wanted was exposure. They never did anything to help," he said. "It's just so disturbing when I look back on it."

Kesse said parents need research on the people who are approaching them. Are they a legitimate group? Are they simply looking to profit themselves?

We know who the real maggots and leaches were. The Anthonys still don't get it.


that all makes me wonder about the research done in March of 2008 (IIRC) on Trenton Duckett on the Anthony's computer. Please correct me on that if I am wrong.

jmo

[Sun]

I would really like to see the letter JB's office sent with the money order to BOA.

I wonder if Lyons knew he was going to send the money order.

jmo

I also wonder if Lyons knew. However, after a bit of thought, I think that Lyon is probably behind it. Maybe with the intentions of showing the court that restitution has been made, and perhaps we'll see Lyon arguing that the charges should be lowered to a non-felony, at the very least.

IMO, what Lyon/Baez are doing is making essentially saying that their client is not going to contest the charges, but doesn't want that hearing to go forward until after the murder case. Something stinks to me about their motives..... but I have no clue as to where the law stands on this. Anxiously awaiting a ruling from Judge Strickland.

[bchand]

that all makes me wonder about the research done in March of 2008 (IIRC) on Trenton Duckett on the Anthony's computer. Please correct me on that if I am wrong.

jmo

I remember a search on "missing children". Not sure if it was specifically about Trenton?

Anyone?

[Pam1569]

I also wonder if Lyons knew. However, after a bit of thought, I think that Lyon is probably behind it. Maybe with the intentions of showing the court that restitution has been made, and perhaps well see Lyon arguing that the charges should be lowered to a non-felony, at the very least.

IMO, what Lyon/Baez are doing is making essentially saying that their client is not going to contest the charges, but doesn't want that hearing to go forward until after the murder case. Something stinks to me about their motives..... but I have no clue as to where the law stands on this. Anxiously awaiting a ruling from Judge Strickland.

Hi Sun and GM, I wonder if Strickland will say to the defense since she has made restitution now for the check/fraud charges that it is an admission of guilt and say that a trial now is not necessary and just sentence her now according to the law. :confused:

[cassidy]

I remember a search on "missing children". Not sure if it was specifically about Trenton?

Anyone?



I just recall a generic missing children search also.

[crimeq]

THIS is really weird... Over on the Orlando Sentinel story that many of us commented on about the Milstead's and Anthony's being interviewed for the story of missing children, they attribute a comment to me (ratched), that I DEFINITELY didn't make. I made the first comment attributed to me but not the other. What could have caused that? :confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-looking-for-missing-kids-072209,0,4510627,comment-display-all.story

Same thing happened to me, Lavinia. That's what happened after I posted--I think someone reviews the comments then, and when it's accepted, it'll show up with your comment separated from the one below yours. It's a glitch of some kind, that's all.

[Pam1569]

If the FBI interviewed Lee, it has not been released. They gave him a paternity test.

Cindy's work computer...don't know

Thanks Rapunzel. I thought I may have missed those 2 things.

[Lavinia]

Same thing happened to me, Lavinia. That's what happened after I posted--I think someone reviews the comments then, and when it's accepted, it'll show up with your comment separated from the one below yours. It's a glitch of some kind, that's all.

Thanks crimeq. I guess I shouldn't expect accuracy in the media's comment section anyway, lol.

[bchand]

:tonguewag: I didn't even realize I had registered there yesterday when I was going to leave that comment, so I tried to register and it told me that name was already taken. That's when I realized I must already be registered. Is everyone else's posts attributed correctly? I can get in enough trouble without someone else speaking for me. :glare:

My one post is ok. Thankfully, no one came along and posted another in my name. That would make me nervous also.

[Sun]

Hi Sun and GM, I wonder if Strickland will say to the defense since she has made restitution now for the check/fraud charges that it is an admission of guilt and say that a trial now is not necessary and just sentence her now according to the law. :confused:

Casey has a right to a trial, whether she has paid back the money or not. Judge Strickland can't take that right from her, but he can set a trial date for it. The State wants that date set NOW, and the defense wants that date set LATER. Judge Strickland will decide according to the law after listening to all the arguments from both sides.

[bchand]

Hi Sun and GM, I wonder if Strickland will say to the defense since she has made restitution now for the check/fraud charges that it is an admission of guilt and say that a trial now is not necessary and just sentence her now according to the law. :confused:

But she has pled "not guilty." Wouldn't she have to change her plea in order for Judge Strickland to do that?

[Pam1569]

Casey has a right to a trial, whether she has paid back the money or not. Judge Strickland can't take that right from her, but he can set a trial date for it. The State wants that date set NOW, and the defense wants that date set LATER. Judge Strickland will decide according to the law after listening to all the arguments from both sides.

Thanks Sun, I do wonder when these motions are going to be heard by Strickland then? Hopefully soon.

[Pam1569]

You can listen to Lee's speech at the memorial again if you want...:biggrin:

Rapunzel I don't think there is enough sedatives in the world to make me do that again. :w00t:

[Pam1569]

But she has pled "not guilty." Wouldn't she have to change her plea in order for Judge Strickland to do that?

Hi bchand, Well by paying BofA back imo would be doing just that imo. But Sun has advised me that it is not so and that Strickland will have to listen to both parties arguments and then decide for a trial.

[Sun]

But she has pled "not guilty." Wouldn't she have to change her plea in order for Judge Strickland to do that?

Yes, her plea to the court is still NOT GUILTY ...however her attorneys have now filed with the court a document that shows that restitution has been made (and delivered by their law firm). To me, that is a bit of a mixed message for the court to ponder. Perhaps the defense is positioning to change their plea, if Judge Strickland rules against their desire to have the Criminal check/fraud charges pushed back behind the murder case. The defense doesn't want Casey going into the murder trial with a conviction on her record.

[Julie Dupree]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

[shelkobe]

THIS is really weird... Over on the Orlando Sentinel story that many of us commented on about the Milstead's and Anthony's being interviewed for the story of missing children, they attribute a comment to me (ratched), that I DEFINITELY didn't make. I made the first comment attributed to me but not the other. What could have caused that? :confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-looking-for-missing-kids-072209,0,4510627,comment-display-all.story

Speaking of Ratched, there used to be a Nurse Ratched on this board many years ago. Was that you?

[Sun]

Thanks Sun, I do wonder when these motions are going to be heard by Strickland then? Hopefully soon.

I'm going to say with some certainty, that the next court hearing will be on a Thursday or Friday. :rolleyes: I try to check the Clerk of Courts records every day, and will post just as soon as a date is set.

[Sun]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

Oh my! :thumbup:

[marinewife5]

I just recall a generic missing children search also.

ty cassidy and bchand. so much info, my brain gets a little fuzzy

[Neffy]

Speaking of Ratched, there used to be a Nurse Ratched on this board many years ago. Was that you?

:laugh::laugh: :sneaky:

[Lavinia]

Speaking of Ratched, there used to be a Nurse Ratched on this board many years ago. Was that you?

Nope, not me. I've only posted under "ratched" and the many resurrections of Lavinia. :laugh: (Unless you owe Nurse Ratched money. Then it WAS me. :sneaky:)

I have lurked for many years, but this case brought me out of lurkdom with all its twists and turns and improbable characters.

P.S. Someone told me in a PM some time ago, that NR passed away from cancer. I don't know if that's true, but that's the rumor anyhoo.

[Lapis]

Hi Sun and GM, I wonder if Strickland will say to the defense since she has made restitution now for the check/fraud charges that it is an admission of guilt and say that a trial now is not necessary and just sentence her now according to the law. :confused:

The court does not make that determination. She has plead not guilty and requested a trial. The restitution will be just one more fact for the jury to consider. JMO

[bchand]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

Good news Julie, ty. I hope this means their bff the Anthonys aren't going with their wagon full of bears also.

[ladeebug565]

Just re-watched Cindy's bond hearing testimony. She is crying and says "this is the first time I've seen Caylee, or Casey, in a week." She hadn't seen Casey AND Caylee for a whole month, but being separated from Casey for a week while in jail, tore her up. Then when the other questioning starts, the water faucet is off. I'm giving her an F for drama class.

[Neffy]

Nope, not me. I've only posted under "ratched" and the many resurrections of Lavinia. :laugh: (Unless you owe Nurse Ratched money. Then it WAS me. :sneaky:)

I have lurked for many years, but this case brought me out of lurkdom with all its twists and turns and improbable characters.

P.S. Someone told me in a PM some time ago, that NR passed away from cancer. I don't know if that's true, but that's the rumor anyhoo.

Poor Lavenia, Identity crisis in the forum world :wub:

[Bala]

The court does not make that determination. She has plead not guilty and requested a trial. The restitution will be just one more fact for the jury to consider. JMO

Is it normal to have a jury trial for a fraud case.

[Neffy]

Good news Julie, ty. I hope this means their bff the Anthonys aren't going with their wagon full of bears also.

I bet a mystery wagon o'bears will roll by the cameras if there is a news team covering this pushed by invisible hands off camera LOL

[bchand]

Just re-watched Cindy's bond hearing testimony. She is crying and says "this is the first time I've seen Caylee, or Casey, in a week." She hadn't seen Casey AND Caylee for a whole month, but being separated from Casey for a week while in jail, tore her up. Then when the other questioning starts, the water faucet is off. I'm giving her an F for drama class.

Yep, it was just like George's performance at the last hearing. The wanted the autopsy report held from the public. He had the waterworks going and going until the other side asked them how often they had appeared on TV.

He turned like Jekyll and Hyde. His real self came out instantly.

[Lapis]

Is it normal to have a jury trial for a fraud case.

The right to a trial by jury belongs to the defendant. If she requests one she can have it. It is not unusual for a fraud case to have a jury. Look at the Enron Cases or the Tyco cases. JMO

[Unleashed]

You can listen to Lee's speech at the memorial again if you want...:biggrin:

Wow, Rapunzel. What did Pam do to you this morning to deserve THAT kind of punishment? :laugh:

jmo

[AnniePie]

THIS is really weird... Over on the Orlando Sentinel story that many of us commented on about the Milstead's and Anthony's being interviewed for the story of missing children, they attribute a comment to me (ratched), that I DEFINITELY didn't make. I made the first comment attributed to me but not the other. What could have caused that? :confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-looking-for-missing-kids-072209,0,4510627,comment-display-all.story

Okay, this is just weird. I don't see any posts from 'ratched', and my post from yesterday (under kaelieanne) doesn't appear either. :sneaky:

[Lavinia]

Okay, this is just weird. I don't see any posts from 'ratched', and my post from yesterday (under kaelieanne) doesn't appear either. :sneaky:

I saw yours Annie! I saw it yesterday. (I just checked and it's still there.) Does yours start with, "This is simply a poor piece of journalism."? That's the one attributed to you.

ETA: I show 2 from "ratched". :confused:

[AnniePie]

You can listen to Lee's speech at the memorial again if you want...:biggrin:

Making someone watch that again would be the worst form of torture that I could imagine. :scared:

[Bala]

[QUOTE=bchand;13304524]Yep, it was just like George's performance at the last hearing. The wanted the autopsy report held from the public. He had the waterworks going and going until the other side asked them how often they had appeared on TV.

He turned like Jekyll and Hyde. His real self came out instantly.[/QUOTE
I missed this hearing can someone please tell me where to find it so I can watched it.

[AnniePie]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

This is great news. Do you think some of these organizations are finally getting the message about KFN?

[desmom]

One year ago....

$500,000 Bond For Casey Anthony
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/22/bail_hearing_tuesday_for_mother_of_caylee_anthony. html

When Casey's brother, Lee Alexander Anthony, took the stand, he said that on the night that his mother called police, he had pleaded with her not to make the call until he had the chance to talk with Casey and get her to confide in him.


Would Casey have confided in Lee? What would Lee have done with the information?

[Imperfect4]

I would really like to see the letter JB's office sent with the money order to BOA.

I wonder if Lyons knew he was going to send the money order.

jmo

My bold. Me, too. :lol:

[Lavinia]

Making someone watch that again would be the worst form of torture that I could imagine. :scared:

It's so funny that I can't WAIT to see those videos for the first time, but you can't pay me to watch them a second time. :laugh:

[bchand]

[QUOTE=bchand;13304524]Yep, it was just like George's performance at the last hearing. The wanted the autopsy report held from the public. He had the waterworks going and going until the other side asked them how often they had appeared on TV.

He turned like Jekyll and Hyde. His real self came out instantly.[/QUOTE
I missed this hearing can someone please tell me where to find it so I can watched it.

Here you go Bala:

http://www.wftv.com/video/19801086/index.html

[Lavinia]

Poor Lavenia, Identity crisis in the forum world :wub:

:laugh: Maybe I'll start a "fund"ation. :laugh:

I can't find it now, but didn't someone say yesterday that the bears that the A's had at the hospital were the police's bears? Did I dream that?

[AnniePie]

I saw yours Annie! I saw it yesterday. (I just checked and it's still there.) Does yours start with, "This is simply a poor piece of journalism."? That's the one attributed to you.

ETA: I show 2 from "ratched". :confused:

LKL: Weird.

I just went there again and refreshed and everything and there is nothing from either you or me. It's Bizarro World this morning.

[bchand]

:laugh: Maybe I'll start a "fund"ation. :laugh:

I can't find it now, but didn't someone say yesterday that the bears that the A's had at the hospital were the police's bears? Did I dream that?

I think "really" reported that something came on tv with wagons and bears but that it was done by the police.

:sneaky:

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

[bchand]

It's so funny that I can't WAIT to see those videos for the first time, but you can't pay me to watch them a second time. :laugh:

lol I know. Even if I DO watch or listen to an old one, my husband will pop in and ask WHY I am watching it again!

[Lavinia]

I think "really" reported that something came on tv with wagons and bears but that it was done by the police.

:sneaky:

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks Bet. That sounds like what I saw now that you say it. :thumbup:

[Lavinia]

LKL: Weird.

I just went there again and refreshed and everything and there is nothing from either you or me. It's Bizarro World this morning.

That's crazy Annie. We all had different comment counts when we were checking yesterday. (The LKL: Weird, makes me wonder where Dick is.)

[shelkobe]

Nope, not me. I've only posted under "ratched" and the many resurrections of Lavinia. :laugh: (Unless you owe Nurse Ratched money. Then it WAS me. :sneaky:)

I have lurked for many years, but this case brought me out of lurkdom with all its twists and turns and improbable characters.

P.S. Someone told me in a PM some time ago, that NR passed away from cancer. I don't know if that's true, but that's the rumor anyhoo.
Ah, I did not know that, thanks.

Glad you're here, you're a trip. :thumbup:

[Imperfect4]

But as long as the Anthonys don't admit that they thought Caylee was missing, they are able to say none of these cirumstances raised a red flag. My opinion is that even learning the car was towed didn't upset them in relation to Caylee, it was more frustration that Casey's irresponsibility was costing them money. The tiny little voice that was nagging Cindy all month, that just perhaps something was wrong, Cindy only started to listen to it when she smelled that car. Once she got hold of Casey and realized Caylee was nowhere around, she began to panic. I think she covers for Casey in an effort to make herself look better. If she can convince people Casey was a good, caring, loving mother, then Cindy doesn't look like such an idiot for not knowing her grand daughters whereabouts for 30 days.

My bolding ... or, imo, for having a daughter as odious as Casey, who she very obviously enabled all the way from "troubled child" to "accused child murderer."

[really3997]

:laugh: Maybe I'll start a "fund"ation. :laugh:

I can't find it now, but didn't someone say yesterday that the bears that the A's had at the hospital were the police's bears? Did I dream that?

WFTV did a quick story about the Bear program. they showed bears in a wagon in a hospital. However the Bear program was sponsered by the police. It was funny since they showed Hospital,Bears in wagon, but not it was not the A's..(especially on WFTV) so A's have been replaced IMO

[Imperfect4]

I also wonder if Lyons knew. However, after a bit of thought, I think that Lyon is probably behind it. Maybe with the intentions of showing the court that restitution has been made, and perhaps we'll see Lyon arguing that the charges should be lowered to a non-felony, at the very least.

IMO, what Lyon/Baez are doing is making essentially saying that their client is not going to contest the charges, but doesn't want that hearing to go forward until after the murder case. Something stinks to me about their motives..... but I have no clue as to where the law stands on this. Anxiously awaiting a ruling from Judge Strickland.

Jose, at least, seems to be building quite an arsenal of "Casey as victim" weapons. Which makes me wonder, if the state proceeds with the fraud case, if this will be just another in the stockpile? "Poor Casey, she paid back the money she stole, but since the state hates her so, they're going forward with the fraud case anyway" ... or something to that effect. I have NO idea where they might be going with this whole line of defense, but if you think about what Jose has been focused on over the past year, every last bit of it has involved painting Casey as a pitiable victim.

[Bala]

[QUOTE=Bala;13304585]

Here you go Bala:

http://www.wftv.com/video/19801086/index.html
Thanks I guess we know where Casey gets her arrogance from.

[bchand]

OK...OK...I'm sorry already...try his deposition if you think the memorial was bad...:wink:

or NINE individual youtubes of Lee's statement. ugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFlpDJhkq4&feature=related

[Julie Dupree]

This is great news. Do you think some of these organizations are finally getting the message about KFN?

I think it is our responsiblity to continue to share information, whether good or bad, about these sort of organizations. I am very pleased KFN, and in turn the CMA foundation, was pulled from this one.
Julie

[Lavinia]

WFTV did a quick story about the Bear program. they showed bears in a wagon in a hospital. However the Bear program was sponsered by the police. It was funny since they showed Hospital,Bears in wagon, but not it was not the A's..(especially on WFTV) so A's have been replaced IMO

Did they actually give the bears out to the children in the hospital or did they just pose? (Maybe they gave them to nurses or someone to distribute them and explain that the bear is representative of a mommy who killed her baby and dumped her body down the street in time for movies with the boyfriend.)

[sydney]

hi everyone. i have a stoopid question.

when the a's thought caylee was merely missing, why did the beg for people to look for caylee and not the nanny? does anyone recall them saying anything about the nanny, such as giving out her description, last seen with information, anything like that? i mean, even though kc said caylee was with the nanny and the whole family adopted that lie, i don't recall her description being touted to the media (and if it was, at least not as much as it should have been). iirc, the only thing they said was that the zenaida who is now suing them is not THE zenaida. of course, if i'm wrong, i apologize.

also (okay, i watch a lot of crime shows), in kidnap situations, the family members are supposed to "personalize" the victim, right? by using their name over and over again and giving personal information, like "her birthday is coming soon", that sort of thing. it strikes me that the whole a clan refers to caylee not so much as caylee, but "my granddaughter", "that little girl", things of that nature. that signifies two things to me, that they didn't really buy the nanny story and that caylee was not so much as a treasured member of the family, but a possession.

anyone?

[crimeq]

Thanks crimeq. I guess I shouldn't expect accuracy in the media's comment section anyway, lol.

:lol::lol: when will we ever learn, when we we eeeeeever learn.

[crimeq]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

FLABs strike again and gain another success!

[Lavinia]

:lol::lol: when will we ever learn, when we we eeeeeever learn.

:laugh: Likely never. We just keep plugging away. I contacted them and told them their comment section is all screwed up, but we'll see if anything changes.

(I hope you guys are getting some of this long needed rain.)

[Lavinia]

This OT for what is being discussed now, but wanted to share it with you. This was posted on another thread this morning. I did check the website and Kid Finders are not listed....yipppeee!!!

http://www.adayforkids.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=palmbeach.main&x=4806841


We started an email campaign a few weeks ago to the Kids Fair here in West Palm Beach...I posted form letters here.Thanks to anyone that helped us.
GOOD NEWS!

L XXXX,

Kid Finders along with others will not be participating in Our Kids World August 8/22 and 8/23/09.
We have added some great new features to the show to freshen the event... so we had to make a few cut-backs.
Several businesses/companies were cut-out.

Thank you for your email.

Jennifer S. Cartwright
Event Director ~ New Media Director

I didn't see this until crimeq responded to it in another post, but this is GREAT news! :thumbsup: Way to go!

[crimeq]

LKL: Weird.

I just went there again and refreshed and everything and there is nothing from either you or me. It's Bizarro World this morning.

It was yesterday, too. The posts varied all day long--as in, some that were previously posted didn't appear, then they appeared again. Mine finally got printed.

It's clear they've got glitches on their site.

[crimeq]

I think "really" reported that something came on tv with wagons and bears but that it was done by the police.

:sneaky:

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there any video of that? Youtube? It was on a local station, I believe.

[bchand]

[QUOTE=Bala;13304653]


Boo freakin hoo!!!

Originally Posted by bchand
Thanks I guess we know where Casey gets her arrogance from.

ut oh quotes are getting messed up again. I didn't say that.

[crimeq]

WFTV did a quick story about the Bear program. they showed bears in a wagon in a hospital. However the Bear program was sponsered by the police. It was funny since they showed Hospital,Bears in wagon, but not it was not the A's..(especially on WFTV) so A's have been replaced IMO

Aaaaahhh! Cool! Sounds like that may have been an intentional statement by the police dept., doesn't it?

They want to differentiate from the Ants. Of course their bear program has been in existence for a long time already. Ants were just trying to cash in on something already well-established because it looked like an easy entry to them, easy way to get some bucks.

I bet the police dept. wasn't asking for donations for their bears, either :-) Lots of organizations already donate to the police dept. programs like Kiwanis, Masonics, many other legitimate organizations.

[AnniePie]

:lol::lol: when will we ever learn, when we we eeeeeever learn.

LOL Now that (lovely) song is going to be stuck in my head for the day. :rolleyes:

[crimeq]

Did they actually give the bears out to the children in the hospital or did they just pose? (Maybe they gave them to nurses or someone to distribute them and explain that the bear is representative of a mommy who killed her baby and dumped her body down the street in time for movies with the boyfriend.)

Lavinia, as I understood the post--it wasn't the Ants bears featured on the program, but police dept. bears (they already have their own program).

If so -- great slap in the face to Ants.

[Bala]

[QUOTE=Rapunzel;13304661]

Originally Posted by bchand
Thanks I guess we know where Casey gets her arrogance from.

ut oh quotes are getting messed up again. I didn't say that.

Someone gave me a link to watch the hearing for the release of the autopsy report. I thanked them and made the comment about Casey's arrogance.

[Lavinia]

hi everyone. i have a stoopid question.

when the a's thought caylee was merely missing, why did the beg for people to look for caylee and not the nanny? does anyone recall them saying anything about the nanny, such as giving out her description, last seen with information, anything like that? i mean, even though kc said caylee was with the nanny and the whole family adopted that lie, i don't recall her description being touted to the media (and if it was, at least not as much as it should have been). iirc, the only thing they said was that the zenaida who is now suing them is not THE zenaida. of course, if i'm wrong, i apologize.

also (okay, i watch a lot of crime shows), in kidnap situations, the family members are supposed to "personalize" the victim, right? by using their name over and over again and giving personal information, like "her birthday is coming soon", that sort of thing. it strikes me that the whole a clan refers to caylee not so much as caylee, but "my granddaughter", "that little girl", things of that nature. that signifies two things to me, that they didn't really buy the nanny story and that caylee was not so much as a treasured member of the family, but a possession.

anyone?

Great questions sydney, and we have tried to figure that out. IMO, if you believed a "Zanny" had your child, you would plaster the dang WORLD with Zanny info. The cops weren't going to circulate a pic of a suspect that isn't real. The story fell apart for them, when they found there is not a dwelling in the world where Casey could place Zanny and no other witness in this world who could vouch for a nanny. That would leave it up to the Anthony's. Why didn't they shout about Zanny from the rooftops? If I thought a Zanny had my child, I would be looking for her as much as the child. There would be fliers, media announcements, private detectives, etc., if I believed that she had my baby and the police weren't doing anything about it.

[Lavinia]

Lavinia, as I understood the post--it wasn't the Ants bears featured on the program, but police dept. bears (they already have their own program).

If so -- great slap in the face to Ants.

I'm all for that, lol. When will THEY eeeeever learn? :laugh:

(Although it seems as if *someone* has shut Cindy down a bit.)

[margaritaville]

hi everyone. i have a stoopid question.

when the a's thought caylee was merely missing, why did the beg for people to look for caylee and not the nanny? does anyone recall them saying anything about the nanny, such as giving out her description, last seen with information, anything like that? i mean, even though kc said caylee was with the nanny and the whole family adopted that lie, i don't recall her description being touted to the media (and if it was, at least not as much as it should have been). iirc, the only thing they said was that the zenaida who is now suing them is not THE zenaida. of course, if i'm wrong, i apologize.

also (okay, i watch a lot of crime shows), in kidnap situations, the family members are supposed to "personalize" the victim, right? by using their name over and over again and giving personal information, like "her birthday is coming soon", that sort of thing. it strikes me that the whole a clan refers to caylee not so much as caylee, but "my granddaughter", "that little girl", things of that nature. that signifies two things to me, that they didn't really buy the nanny story and that caylee was not so much as a treasured member of the family, but a possession.

anyone?

I don't ever remember hearing much about what ZFG looked like other then Casey telling her parents in jail.. Then her parents as far as I know never used that description with the media or any of the appearances they made. I remember hearing that Casey "wants" to be with a sketch artist to have a sketch done but I do not think that ever happened.
The only other time I heard of her description was at the ZFG depo's..
Where Cindy had to make her point that that ZFG is not a 10 "your cute, but your not a 10"....And then GA followed in the same footsteps and said the same thing almost verbatim which just shows they rehearsed for it.

As for the "that girl" comments and rarely using her name.. My opinion about that is it is easier for them to disassociate themselves from Caylee if they don't call her Caylee and just say "that girl, my granddaughter, ect." Not much different then Casey calling her the little snothead...imho They are sick people...
they all need psychiatric help.imho

[sydney]

Great questions sydney, and we have tried to figure that out. IMO, if you believed a "Zanny" had your child, you would plaster the dang WORLD with Zanny info. The cops weren't going to circulate a pic of a suspect that isn't real. The story fell apart for them, when they found there is not a dwelling in the world where Casey could place Zanny and no other witness in this world who could vouch for a nanny. That would leave it up to the Anthony's. Why didn't they shout about Zanny from the rooftops? If I thought a Zanny had my child, I would be looking for her as much as the child. There would be fliers, media announcements, private detectives, etc., if I believed that she had my baby and the police weren't doing anything about it.

yes. iirc, the "tips" were all from people who allegedly saw caylee, but none of them mentioned caylee with the invisible nanny - wait! i just answered my own question - the reason no one saw the nanny is because she IS invisible (except to the delusional, like the whole a family). so, i'm sure the a spin will now be "there IS a zanny - but only superior, special people like US can see her...."

[martha]

There is a lot of shady business going on. Most parents have to morgage their home to help pay for their childs defense the A's seem to be paying their morgage off instead. No ones working yet there seems to be lots of money. You or so right and I wish someone would find out what all the a;s or doing. Maybe the irs will look into what is going on. I don;t want to listen to lee with that cma stuff ever again. It was just silly. We all knew he could not be talking about Caylee. Lee was not close to Caylee he left home when she was borned. I really don;t think any of the a;s were really close to Caylee.I have never seen a family act like they have when they have lost a grandchild.jmho

[sydney]

I don't ever remember hearing much about what ZFG looked like other then Casey telling her parents in jail.. Then her parents as far as I know never used that description with the media or any of the appearances they made. I remember hearing that Casey "wants" to be with a sketch artist to have a sketch done but I do not think that ever happened.
The only other time I heard of her description was at the ZFG depo's..


snipped by me

that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about. so, since they continued to maintain that there is, indeed, a zanny, why didn't they publish her appearance to the media when they had the opportunity? i would think a "10" would stand out to a lot of people, don't you?

[bchand]

yes. iirc, the "tips" were all from people who allegedly saw caylee, but none of them mentioned caylee with the invisible nanny - wait! i just answered my own question - the reason no one saw the nanny is because she IS invisible (except to the delusional, like the whole a family). so, i'm sure the a spin will now be "there IS a zanny - but only superior, special people like US can see her...."

I recall one of the nutty sightings (Wanda Wery). She was convinced the girl she saw on the plane was Caylee and the woman was Mark Hawkin's sister because she looked like Mark.

Lotta nuts come out of the woodwork don't they?

[bchand]

yes. iirc, the "tips" were all from people who allegedly saw caylee, but none of them mentioned caylee with the invisible nanny - wait! i just answered my own question - the reason no one saw the nanny is because she IS invisible (except to the delusional, like the whole a family). so, i'm sure the a spin will now be "there IS a zanny - but only superior, special people like US can see her...."

I believe that's why LE wouldn't let her have a sketch made of the nanny. They didn't have any invisible ink?

[sydney]

I believe that's why LE wouldn't let her have a sketch made of the nanny. They didn't have any invisible ink?

LOL. if you think about it, the sketch artist could draw nothing, hold up the blank page to kc and she prolly would say "THAT'S HER!" (seeing as how she's invisible and all...):tonguewag:

[no1what]

:seeya:

Did you see Really3997's post here http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13302542#post13302542

I do not buy the note was stuck to the front door. How often are registered/certified letters good news? IMO, very rarely.

I think they had the notice for several days before they went to get the letter trying to figure out who would send them a registered letter. IMO, saying the notice was stuck to the front door and we did not see it sounds better than "we had the notice for several days and ignored it." The A's do have a history of mis-truths, imo.


I buy the note on the door because that is where mine are always posted. However I don't buy that it was just one notice. If I don't make contact in 1 day I get a second and third notice.

[bchand]

LOL. if you think about it, the sketch artist could draw nothing, hold up the blank page to kc and she prolly would say "THAT'S HER!" (seeing as how she's invisible and all...):tonguewag:

Oh the malarky we've heard from this family.

I recall Cindy once being asked about Caylee being in danger and she said something to the effect of "oh it's not that kind of kidnapping, she just loves Caylee."

Just think - a "10" "good" kidnapper.

[Daffodil]

I think another reason or the main reason that they refer to Caylee as "that girl" , "that little girl" or "my grandchild" is because that is how they always referred to her when she was alive.

[sydney]

I think another reason or the main reason that they refer to Caylee as "that girl" , "that little girl" or "my grandchild" is because that is how they always referred to her when she was alive.

how sad is that when you think about it....i think that generic terms such as "that girl" and "that little girl" could also be interchangeable with kc.

[Neffy]

or NINE individual youtubes of Lee's statement. ugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFlpDJhkq4&feature=related

OH GOOD LAWD! hammer

[bchand]

OH GOOD LAWD! hammer

I heartily apologize. :tongueside:

[Imperfect4]

I said it...someone messed it up...wasn't me...Coldwater is gonna be real mad again...sorry Coldwater...none of us know how this happened.

Here's a tip on quotes screwing up. When I make a post on this board, I get taken to it as soon as I hit Submit. I can tell immediately if something's wrong with it -- bad quote, typo, no smilie, etc. I always give my posts a quick glance to make sure I said what I thought I said!

Right now, as I respond to this, I'm seeing TWO people I'm supposedly quoting, so I know right away when this posts it will contain a messed up quote. So I'm going up right now to the quote and I'm taking out the second person so this will post correctly. This may not make sense as you read it, but if you look carefully at the posts you reply to, and also to your own after they post, you can get rid of problems before they arise. You can immediately edit any post you make, if it posts incorrectly.

This isn't usually a problem with the IS board -- it's a problem with us. :laugh:

[margaritaville]

snipped by me

that's EXACTLY what i'm talking about. so, since they continued to maintain that there is, indeed, a zanny, why didn't they publish her appearance to the media when they had the opportunity? i would think a "10" would stand out to a lot of people, don't you?


Oh heck yeah...... But I think the A's excuse for not publicizing her description was just that they were waiting for Casey to get with the sketch artist.......Almost like they wanted it to come from Casey and not from them....So it just never came....moo

[Julie Dupree]

OM Goodnesssss....Just when you think you have heard everything, something happens to cause you to stop and think about what you know, what is being said...what you can believe and what is to "over the top". This is one of those over the top, but then again, I wonder if this is going to be JB's big AH Ha moment???
Julie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY5nnzNuvSQ&feature=related

[Bala]

Well watching the tape of the autopsy hearing I notice something familiar. When George realizes they aren't going to win Cindy tries to take his hand and comfort him. He pulled away from her and wouldn't even look at her. I've notice in other interviews that George never really looks at Cindy and is usually turned slightly away from her. When he thinks the camera isn't on him he can be seen giving her dirty looks. I think George blames Cindy for what happened to Caylee. I would love to know why?

[alisa31235]

OM Goodnesssss....Just when you think you have heard everything, something happens to cause you to stop and think about what you know, what is being said...what you can believe and what is to "over the top". This is one of those over the top, but then again, I wonder if this is going to be JB's big AH Ha moment???
Julie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY5nnzNuvSQ&feature=related

can you give a little on what this says for reason i can`t view it please

[Citygirl]

om goodnesssss....just when you think you have heard everything, something happens to cause you to stop and think about what you know, what is being said...what you can believe and what is to "over the top". This is one of those over the top, but then again, i wonder if this is going to be jb's big ah ha moment???
Julie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py5nnznuvsq&feature=related


this link shut my computer down.

[imc_e]

You or so right and I wish someone would find out what all the a;s or doing. Maybe the irs will look into what is going on. I don;t want to listen to lee with that cma stuff ever again. It was just silly. We all knew he could not be talking about Caylee. Lee was not close to Caylee he left home when she was borned. I really don;t think any of the a;s were really close to Caylee.I have never seen a family act like they have when they have lost a grandchild.jmho

Hi Martha, Its always good to read your posts, basically because I agree with your thoughts! :thumbup:

I have NEVER seen a family behave this way, and so very little about Caylee or her memory, other than trying to make money off of her murder. :thumbdown:

[AnniePie]

can you give a little on what this says for reason i can`t view it please

It's a spoof. A grimy old man telling a reporter that Casey was with him all the week that Caylee was killed, that he hired her for sex from an escort service. The comments reveal that the poster did it as a joke.

[alisa31235]

It's a spoof. A grimy old man telling a reporter that Casey was with him all the week that Caylee was killed, that he hired her for sex from an escort service. The comments reveal that the poster did it as a joke.

Thank you I thought I missed something important

[bchand]

can you give a little on what this says for reason i can`t view it please

It's a prank youtube. The guy made it up saying Casey spent the week with him in Pittsburgh when she supposedly killed Caylee.

It's a joke.

[Imperfect4]

Oh heck yeah...... But I think the A's excuse for not publicizing her description was just that they were waiting for Casey to get with the sketch artist.......Almost like they wanted it to come from Casey and not from them....So it just never came....moo

ITA. Imo, they knew dang well Casey was making stuff up, and they didn't want to hang their
own tushies out to dry by sitting across from a sketch artist pretending like they had a clue what the invisi-nanny looked like.

I think it speaks volumes no sketch was ever published of Zanny the invisible nanny. Even the Ants realized what size can of worms they'd open by putting out a sketch that would probably look like hundreds of women in the Orlando area.

[ish]

Well watching the tape of the autopsy hearing I notice something familiar. When George realizes they aren't going to win Cindy tries to take his hand and comfort him. He pulled away from her and wouldn't even look at her. I've notice in other interviews that George never really looks at Cindy and is usually turned slightly away from her. When he thinks the camera isn't on him he can be seen giving her dirty looks. I think George blames Cindy for what happened to Caylee. I would love to know why?

Bala, I can't find the link right now but there was a clip very early on, maybe the first week after Caylee was reported missing. It was an interview of George and Cindy (she did most of the talking!!), they were in the kitchen and George's facial expressions and body language was so different from Cindy's, it really struck a nerve with me. Cindy was blathering on and on, one lie after another and George actually looked like he wanted to put his hand over her mouth, like he couldn't believe that she was making those outrageous statements. Everything about his appearance silently screamed to me that he knew Caylee was dead and that Casey was responsible. He had that same expression in every interview since, right until Caylee's remains were found. Even when he was saying out loud that Caylee was still alive, his eyes said otherwise.

[sydney]

does anyone recall whether any direct pleas were made to zfg by anyone in the a family during the entire time before poor little caylee was found? and, i recall kc telling her mother to tell zfg that she "forgives her". did cindy ever say anything like that to zfg through the media?

also, does anyone recall statements from the a's like "caylee, gramma and grampa love you - if you're watching, tell zfg to let us talk to you"? remember, cindy did say that caylee could speak in phrases....

sorry if this has been discussed before, but you guys are so fast i can't keep up!

thanks.

[Bala]

I have watch everything I could find on this case, don't know why I'm so struck by it but I am. I have never once seen anyone plead for the safe return of Caylee. Not her GM GF MOM or Uncle no one.

[Imperfect4]

does anyone recall whether any direct pleas were made to zfg by anyone in the a family during the entire time before poor little caylee was found? and, i recall kc telling her mother to tell zfg that she "forgives her". did cindy ever say anything like that to zfg through the media?

also, does anyone recall statements from the a's like "caylee, gramma and grampa love you - if you're watching, tell zfg to let us talk to you"? remember, cindy did say that caylee could speak in phrases....

sorry if this has been discussed before, but you guys are so fast i can't keep up!

thanks.

I recall neither of those things, sydney. My recollection is Cindy talked mainly about herself, but also about Casey. Cindy was not about pleading for Caylee's safe return, nor was she about trying to reassure Caylee over the television, in case she was watching her grandmother.

That was one of the most sore points for me in this case. Not once did any adult in that family display any normal concern for whether Caylee was scared, tired, cold, hungry, or anything else. Not once did they make an appeal to the "kidnappers" to not hurt Caylee or return her to them. Seemed to me they couldn't stop talking about THEMSELVES long enough to address the situation little Caylee might have been in.

It just absolutely infuriated me. :mad:

[alisa31235]

I have watch everything I could find on this case, don't know why I'm so struck by it but I am. I have never once seen anyone plead for the safe return of Caylee. Not her GM GF MOM or Uncle no one.

Noone ever did Cindy was too busy telling us how she had not ate only drank water and telling Greta not to ask her stupid questions such as WHY did your daughter wait 31 days to say anything IMO :unsure:

[sydney]

I recall neither of those things, sydney. My recollection is Cindy talked mainly about herself, but also about Casey. Cindy was not about pleading for Caylee's safe return, nor was she about trying to reassure Caylee over the television, in case she was watching her grandmother.

That was one of the most sore points for me in this case. Not once did any adult in that family display any normal concern for whether Caylee was scared, tired, cold, hungry, or anything else. Not once did they make an appeal to the "kidnappers" to not hurt Caylee or return her to them. Seemed to me they couldn't stop talking about THEMSELVES long enough to address the situation little Caylee might have been in.

It just absolutely infuriated me. :mad:

ITA. i also think it says they believed all along there was no zanny.

[alisa31235]

ITA. i also think it says they believed all along there was no zanny.

I also believe they knew who has a "nanny" at that age IMO

[margaritaville]

Here is one video that will make you all scream Go Shep!!
(As it is titled)

Shep talking with Robert dick.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5J8oQgvGr4&feature=related

[sydney]

Noone ever did Cindy was too busy telling us how she had not ate only drank water and telling Greta not to ask her stupid questions such as WHY did your daughter wait 31 days to say anything IMO :unsure:

didn't she also say her strength was running out and she didn't want to spend what little that remained on answering stoopid questions (paraphrasing)?

well, if she was so tired, why the frig did she even go on the show? g or lee could have done it instead. and i was not interested in the least in her problems. that interview really stands out in my mind as it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they didn't give a darn about poor caylee. all i heard was "poor me, poor me, poor me."

[Imperfect4]

Here is one video that will make you all scream Go Shep!!
(As it is titled)

Shep talking with Robert dick.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5J8oQgvGr4&feature=related

I love Shep!! :thumbup:

[margaritaville]

didn't she also say her strength was running out and she didn't want to spend what little that remained on answering stoopid questions (paraphrasing)?

well, if she was so tired, why the frig did she even go on the show? g or lee could have done it instead. and i was not interested in the least in her problems. that interview really stands out in my mind as it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they didn't give a darn about poor caylee. all i heard was "poor me, poor me, poor me."

No kidding....

that was all any of her interviews were.......Poor me....

How many interviews started out with the "I can't eat, I can't sleep" blah blah blah made me want to vomit!!!

Just once I would have loved an interview that started out more like this...

Good Morning, I want everyone to be looking for my granddaughter Caylee she is 2 years old here is a picture of her.. She was last seen wearing a pink top and striped white shorts. She has big brown eyes and light brown hair. She was last seen with a Hispanic woman who is about 22 years old, brown hair, brown eyes, 5'7, and HOT!
If you have any information please call me at 555-5555...


moo

[margaritaville]

I love Shep!! :thumbup:


Me too... ............................

[Sun]

I'm getting impatient. Discovery was released to the defense last Thursday, July 16th. Seems like it has not been released to the media yet. Waiting. Waiting. ....rant off. :tonguewag:

[Julie Dupree]

Here is one video that will make you all scream Go Shep!!
(As it is titled)

Shep talking with Robert dick.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5J8oQgvGr4&feature=related

Did you see JB chewing gum????? (at the first of the tape)....:(

[seeing_eye]

For those who haven't seen it before. I haven't yet seen it either, but was told Casey is Notorious Woman #1.

[Zarina]

Ants have to appear in court tomorrow ??


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309

[101Spots]

Ants have to appear in court tomorrow ??


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309

"Page not found."

[alisa31235]

"Page not found."

same here :confused:

[bchand]

I love Shep!! :thumbup:

But it shows that Dick was really taken in by the OC too. How sad.

(some people just aren't comfortable talking with LE, disgusting.)

[Sorrento]

"Page not found."

This also happened to me. Then I went to the home/front page and was able to find the story (it's the lead story).

[bchand]

"Page not found."

I got to it in a round about way.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309,0,3645760.story

eta: first few lines:

George and Cindy Anthony may be back in court.

The State Attorney's office is slated to ask Orange Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to force the Anthonys to produce information for the state's case against their daughter, Casey Anthony, according to spokespersons for the State Attorney's office and the court.

A hearing is set for 1:30 p.m. Friday.

[Zarina]

Sorry , when page not found comes up, just click on "home" it should take you there ..
Ants have to be in court 10 am tomorrow

[101Spots]

I got to it in a round about way.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309,0,3645760.story

Thank you!

[alisa31235]

But it shows that Dick was really taken in by the OC too. How sad.

(some people just aren't comfortable talking with LE, disgusting.)

I agree if my daughter was missing i would be shouting from the mountain top i bet casey liked ole rob would love to know what he has to say now

[bchand]

For those who can't get to it:

The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

Brad Conway, lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony, said the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said.

Conway said the Anthonys are going to give the documents to prosecutors and he does not expect there to even be a hearing on the matter tomorrow.

"We're in the process of turning them over," he said.

It's unclear what the documents entail. Conway, reached by phone this afternoon, wouldn't give any clues.

"I can't say," he said. "It's not something that I can comment on."

The State Attorney's Office also wouldn't say.

eta: I love the headline -

Seeking info in Casey Anthony case, State Attorney slated to haul George and Cindy Anthony back to court

[bchand]

Sorry , when page not found comes up, just click on "home" it should take you there ..
Ants have to be in court 10 am tomorrow

Thanks for finding that Zarina!

[Zarina]

BTW, CAsey does not have to be present tomorrow.
Wid I knew mor what this is about ,, no details yet

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-case-hearing-072309

[margaritaville]

A hearing will be held in the Casey Anthony case on Friday involving her parents, George and Cindy Anthony. According to Fox Orlando, the hearing is for a Rule to Show Cause.
Casey Anthony who has been charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Casey, will not be at the hearing.

Casey’s murder trial was scheduled for Oct. 12, but her defense argued they needed more time to prepare since their client is facing the death penalty. Her trial is now expected to begin sometime in 2010.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Hearing-to-be-held-Friday-in-Casey-Anthony-case


Okay people what does that mean?

[101Spots]

A hearing will be held in the Casey Anthony case on Friday involving her parents, George and Cindy Anthony. According to Fox Orlando, the hearing is for a Rule to Show Cause.
Casey Anthony who has been charged with the first-degree murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, will not be at the hearing.

Casey’s murder trial was scheduled for Oct. 12, but her defense argued they needed more time to prepare since their client is facing the death penalty. Her trial is now expected to begin sometime in 2010.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d23-Hearing-to-be-held-Friday-in-Casey-Anthony-case


Okay people what does that mean?

The Anthonys were asked to produce something.
They haven't done it.
The state wants them to go before a judge and explain why they have not produced this something.
Now they're scrambling to cover their derrieres by producing this something.

[gaelicpeas]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

[desmom]

For those who can't get to it:

The Anthonys have been asked to produce information for the state but have not done so, the spokespersons said.

Brad Conway, lawyer for George and Cindy Anthony, said the couple simply hasn't been able to provide the documents in the time frame prosecutors wanted.

"The Anthonys have no problem providing the documentation the state has requested," Conway said.

Conway said the Anthonys are going to give the documents to prosecutors and he does not expect there to even be a hearing on the matter tomorrow.

"We're in the process of turning them over," he said.

It's unclear what the documents entail. Conway, reached by phone this afternoon, wouldn't give any clues.

"I can't say," he said. "It's not something that I can comment on."

The State Attorney's Office also wouldn't say.

eta: I love the headline -

Seeking info in Casey Anthony case, State Attorney slated to haul George and Cindy Anthony back to court

Doesn't the state usually allow 2 weeks for such requests? What documents could take longer than 2 weeks to collect? More importantly, what documents is the State asking the A's to turn over they could not access via a subpoena?

:shrug:

[bchand]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

Right, blame it on the computer. If it's down now, how does he know it will be back up tomorrow?

Lame.

[margaritaville]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

Yeah they better be able to produce doc's from the GeekSquad to prove that, otherwise..I would have to say LIARS

[101Spots]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

Probably happened about the same time he threw his back out. :rolleyes:

[gaelicpeas]

Right, blame it on the computer. If it's down now, how does he know it will be back up tomorrow?

Lame.lol, exactly. let's see... they couldn't be deposed because of mental frailty or something, and now they can't produce documents because their computer has been down. Oh yeah, and they couldn't hold that last hearing in the civil case because Conway had a back back.

What's next? The yorkies ate the documents??

[bchand]

Doesn't the state usually allow 2 weeks for such requests? What documents could take longer than 2 weeks to collect? More importantly, what documents is the State asking the A's to turn over they could not access via a subpoena?

:shrug:

I was hoping it has to do with how they've been supporting themselves for the past year (from the hearing on where the money is coming from)?

[desmom]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

And the documents just happen to be stored on the computer.

Any bets, the documents "vanish" while the computer is down?


jmo

[Imperfect4]

But it shows that Dick was really taken in by the OC too. How sad.

(some people just aren't comfortable talking with LE, disgusting.)

Yep. Casey and her parents had a lot of people on the string for a short time I guess. Normal folks can't even conceive of a family who was actively trying to cover up the details of a 2 year-old's disappearance. I think that's why it took awhile for everyone to catch on.

[gaelicpeas]

And the documents just happen to be stored on the computer.

Any bets, the documents "vanish" while the computer is down?


jmoI bet you are right. These people are unbelievable. At some point, I think Judge Strickland is going to get fed up. JMO

[bchand]

lol, exactly. let's see... they couldn't be deposed because of mental frailty or something, and now they can't produce documents because their computer has been down. Oh yeah, and they couldn't hold that last hearing in the civil case because Conway had a back back.

What's next? The yorkies ate the documents??

Hopefully Judge Strickland will see the pattern here.

[GumShoeJoe]

Doesn't the state usually allow 2 weeks for such requests? What documents could take longer than 2 weeks to collect? More importantly, what documents is the State asking the A's to turn over they could not access via a subpoena?

:shrug:

Perhaps they were requested via a subpoena, hence the order from Judge Stickland to appear?

[GumShoeJoe]

lol, exactly. let's see... they couldn't be deposed because of mental frailty or something, and now they can't produce documents because their computer has been down. Oh yeah, and they couldn't hold that last hearing in the civil case because Conway had a back back.

What's next? The yorkies ate the documents??


LOL, good point. Isn't that the truth?

[desmom]

I bet you are right. These people are unbelievable. At some point, I think Judge Strickland is going to get fed up. JMO

If all the documents are not turned over by court time and the A's explanation is the computer ate them, hopefully Judge Strickland will order their computer be turned over to LE .... again.

Now if they did some hanky panky to make the computer eat the files, I am sure LE's computer forensics team will be able to establish the hanky panky. IMO, this would not go over very well with Judge Strickland.

[marshmallow]

The Anthonys were asked to produce something.
They haven't done it.
The state wants them to go before a judge and explain why they have not produced this something.
Now they're scrambling to cover their derrieres by producing this something.



they like to play games and this is yet another case of it.

[marshmallow]

Yeah they better be able to produce doc's from the GeekSquad to prove that, otherwise..I would have to say LIARS



they managed to reply for the article about child organizations, and by email no less. guess their computer only works in spurts...

[bchand]

And the documents just happen to be stored on the computer.

Any bets, the documents "vanish" while the computer is down?


jmo

If anyone wanted something from any computer in my house, I could get it to them in 15 seconds flat via email or fax.

I don't believe this latest excuse. Next we'll hear their printer was out of ink and they didn't know they could just email the documents.

[Sun]

The Anthonys were asked to produce something.
They haven't done it.
The state wants them to go before a judge and explain why they have not produced this something.
Now they're scrambling to cover their derrieres by producing this something.

Spots, you have summed this up nicely!

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

[Sun]

Hopefully Judge Strickland will see the pattern here.

I applaud the State for taking this step. The Anthony should not be allowed to get away with delaying the turning over of documents that are due to the State. (now I really want to know what those docs are!). Perhaps certain financial records???? Just guessing, as I have no idea really. What do you all think it could be?

[apothecary]

Yep. Casey and her parents had a lot of people on the string for a short time I guess. Normal folks can't even conceive of a family who was actively trying to cover up the details of a 2 year-old's disappearance. I think that's why it took awhile for everyone to catch on.
You are so right imp.Up till the time I joined this forum,I did not suspect the parents of hiding facts.I thought that they acted funny and did not help in the investigation,but never dreamed at first that they may have been involved in a cover up.Boy was I naive for I actually felt sorry for them at first because they got a double whammy in this murder case.

[Imperfect4]

they managed to reply for the article about child organizations, and by email no less. guess their computer only works in spurts...

My guess is Cindy made a decision what the SA did and did not need of the documents they requested. Apparently, the state doesn't agree with Cindy's decision. :laugh:

Anyone got a link to the article from yesterday about missing children organizations? I didn't see the Ants' comment! :w00t:

[Sun]

If anyone wanted something from any computer in my house, I could get it to them in 15 seconds flat via email or fax.

I don't believe this latest excuse. Next we'll hear their printer was out of ink and they didn't know they could just email the documents.

...um, do we all believe that Conway is being truthful that it's about records on the Anthony's computer? Or is this just an excuse that he could be using? He has been known to lie.

[desmom]

If anyone wanted something from any computer in my house, I could get it to them in 15 seconds flat via email or fax.

I don't believe this latest excuse. Next we'll hear their printer was out of ink and they didn't know they could just email the documents.

Ditto. Same here.

I just did a quick run through my computer looking for documents that are only stored on my computer where there is no hard copy, not backed up on a thumb drive/CD or I could not access on-line. I couldn't find any.

What documents could G & C have only on their computer? Communications with the PI, JB, Bounty Hunter, emails from whoever........?

jmo

ETA ~ Communications between the A's and NeJames or Conway would be privilege. I do not see the State asking for that information.

[Imperfect4]

Spots, you have summed this up nicely!

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

I Googled "Rule to Show Cause" ...

http://www.law-dictionary.org/RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE.asp?q=RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE

Remind me not to do that again. :blink:

[Julie Dupree]

I applaud the State for taking this step. The Anthony should not be allowed to get away with delaying the turning over of documents that are due to the State. (now I really want to know what those docs are!). Perhaps certain financial records???? Just guessing, as I have no idea really. What do you all think it could be?

Hummmmm...what could be in their computer that they do not have a hard copy of???? Most of the important things (financial things) I have are in hard copy format, not stored in my computer...but that probably is just me!!!!
Julie

[Imperfect4]

You are so right imp.Up till the time I joined this forum,I did not suspect the parents of hiding facts.I thought that they acted funny and did not help in the investigation,but never dreamed at first that they may have been involved in a cover up.Boy was I naive for I actually felt sorry for them at first because they got a double whammy in this murder case.

I couldn't feel sympathy only because Cynthia was being so completely self-absorbed and obnoxious whenever she appeared on my TV set. But I didn't really grasp how hard G&C (esp. C) were working to cover for Casey for awhile.

[Sun]

You are so right imp.Up till the time I joined this forum,I did not suspect the parents of hiding facts.I thought that they acted funny and did not help in the investigation,but never dreamed at first that they may have been involved in a cover up.Boy was I naive for I actually felt sorry for them at first because they got a double whammy in this murder case.

I got hit with feelings of sympathy for Cindy after reading Shirley and Rick's emails and interviews. For about 2 whole days. :tonguewag:

[bchand]

I applaud the State for taking this step. The Anthony should not be allowed to get away with delaying the turning over of documents that are due to the State. (now I really want to know what those docs are!). Perhaps certain financial records???? Just guessing, as I have no idea really. What do you all think it could be?

That was my guess also. The prosecutors want a transcription of the sidebar and maybe something else was asked for at that sidebar re the $$$$$$.

If so, they're had ample time to supply it.

[bchand]

I Googled "Rule to Show Cause" ...

http://www.law-dictionary.org/RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE.asp?q=RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE

Remind me not to do that again. :blink:

lolol me neither. If that's a law dictionary, remind me never to study law.

[Imperfect4]

...um, do we all believe that Conway is being truthful that it's about records on the Anthony's computer? Or is this just an excuse that he could be using? He has been known to lie.

Imo, he's repeating what he's told, primarily by Cindy. Why he's doing that, and making himself look foolish at a minimum, and worst case like another unrepentant liar in this mess, is beyond me. He apparently thinks the Ants are worth risking his reputation. It boggles the mind.

[bchand]

Ditto. Same here.

I just did a quick run through my computer looking for documents that are only stored on my computer where there is no hard copy, not backed up on a thumb drive/CD or I could not access on-line. I couldn't find any.

What documents could G & C have only on their computer? Communications with the PI, JB, Bounty Hunter, emails from whoever........?

jmo

ETA ~ Communications between the A's and NeJames or Conway would be privilege. I do not see the State asking for that information.

No, one article specifically said something that was "evidence in the case." I don't know why the state doesn't have it already, but it should be interesting.

[Sun]

I Googled "Rule to Show Cause" ...

http://www.law-dictionary.org/RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE.asp?q=RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE

Remind me not to do that again. :blink:

:ohmy: Oh my! I shouldn't have clicked that link, or even tried to understand that definition. Maybe Lapis will be along shortly, and provide us all with a definition in English.. one that is more understandable.

[Imperfect4]

That was my guess also. The prosecutors want a transcription of the sidebar and maybe something else was asked for at that sidebar re the $$$$$$.

If so, they're had ample time to supply it.

Hmm. Good catch! The timing would be exactly right. The transcribed sidebar is due today, and today is when we hear the Ants haven't turned over some other document(s) the state is looking for. Could very well all be connected. And if it's financial info the SA is looking for, it would most certainly explain why the Ants have dragged their feet, er, I mean ... have had computer problems. :rolleyes:

[AnniePie]

I'm getting impatient. Discovery was released to the defense last Thursday, July 16th. Seems like it has not been released to the media yet. Waiting. Waiting. ....rant off. :tonguewag:

You call that a rant?! LOL :laugh:

[apothecary]

That was my guess also. The prosecutors want a transcription of the sidebar and maybe something else was asked for at that sidebar re the $$$$$$.

If so, they're had ample time to supply it.

If it is about the finances,they sure do not want it disclosed for some reason.

[Wildflowers]

hi ya'll
Would this hearing possibly have anything to do with maybe tampering with evidence. Like why they took the car home and started cleanig it out and washing the clothes, not calling authorities before doing any of that. I am not a leagal person but was wondering? :confused:

[marinewife5]

If it is about the finances,they sure do not want it disclosed for some reason.

my thinking is that if it were about finances, those records could be gotten from the bank, employer, retailers, etc. and not need to come directly from the anthony's.

jmo

[AnniePie]

The Anthonys were asked to produce something.
They haven't done it.The state wants them to go before a judge and explain why they have not produced this something.
Now they're scrambling to cover their derrieres by producing this something.

Now there's a surprise... :thumbdown: I believe this entire case is going to be one thing like this after another.

[Imperfect4]

hi ya'll
Would this hearing possibly have anything to do with maybe tampering with evidence. Like why they took the car home and started cleanig it out and washing the clothes, not calling authorities before doing any of that. I am not a leagal person but was wondering? :confused:

Seems like the state is looking for some documents, so my guess is it isn't about evidence tampering. For now. :sneaky:

[AnniePie]

Conway says A's computer has been down... lol:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20157907/detail.html

Okay.

This is the 2009 version of "the dawg ate my homework". :mad:

[Imperfect4]

Now there's a surprise... :thumbdown: I believe this entire case is going to be one thing like this after another.

"The Anthonys are having computer problems." -- Brad Conway

FGS :rolleyes:

[AnniePie]

I couldn't feel sympathy only because Cynthia was being so completely self-absorbed and obnoxious whenever she appeared on my TV set. But I didn't really grasp how hard G&C (esp. C) were working to cover for Casey for awhile.

Yeah, she was like that on my TV set too. :laugh:

[desmom]

I Googled "Rule to Show Cause" ...

http://www.law-dictionary.org/RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE.asp?q=RULE+TO+SHOW+CAUSE

Remind me not to do that again. :blink:

I am no legal eagle, so I ignored some of the stuff
between the commas and came up with:

"An order made by the court...calling upon one
of the parties....to show cause....why a certain
thing should not be done."

:D

[Sun]

The state could ask a judge to hold the Anthonys in contempt of court for failing to turn over the documents.:thumbsup:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html

[onlykaty]

they like to play games and this is yet another case of it.

They A's also think they don't have to answer to anyone. I never before have seen one family thumb their nose at everyone who has tried to help find Caylee and they continue to do so now with law enforcement. If Judge S. doesn't do something about this then he needs to step down, I know he said at the releasing of the autopsy hearing he felt bad for them but enough is enough. So far I have thought J.S. has done a good job in this case but I'm very open to changing my mind if he doesn't come down on some of their BS..This time there should be no excuses and delays, I hope if they don't produce the correct documents they find them in contempt! I already find them both contemptable!!

as always jmo

[Wildflowers]

Seems like the state is looking for some documents, so my guess is it isn't about evidence tampering. For now. :sneaky:

:ohmy:ok sorry, If i had waited and read the next post I would have had the correct link. After i read it i see they wanted the documents.

[5boxersmom]

Just stopping in for a minute. So glad I did I would not have known about the court date tomorrow. So BC is talking like it is not going to happen?

jmo

[desmom]

The state could ask a judge to hold the Anthonys in contempt of court for failing to turn over the documents.:thumbsup:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html

From your link:

Brad Conway, said the subpoena for the documents was issued a few weeks ago.

...he (BC) is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Does our attorney was too busy and our computer was broke work in the courts?

jmo

[Imperfect4]

I am no legal eagle, so I ignored some of the stuff
between the commas and came up with:

"An order made by the court...calling upon one
of the parties....to show cause....why a certain
thing should not be done."

:D

Why thank you! :lol: :lol:

[Imperfect4]

:ohmy:ok sorry, If i had waited and read the next post I would have had the correct link. After i read it i see they wanted the documents.

No worries! Many of us are waiting impatiently for something to come of all the lying and deception on the part of the thumb, index and middle fingers of the Hand family.

[summer]

The state could ask a judge to hold the Anthonys in contempt of court for failing to turn over the documents.:thumbsup:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html

I'm liking this whole turn of events. A lot. I'm liking the tone of these articles too.

Looks like the SA and the media are having no trouble taking the gloves off. Yay it's about friggin' time.

[desmom]

Why thank you! :lol: :lol:

YW! :D

I have watched Judge Strickland during the motion hearings and he seems like a patient man...to a point.

I think the A's dawdling may push him to that point.

jmo

[AnniePie]

The state could ask a judge to hold the Anthonys in contempt of court for failing to turn over the documents.:thumbsup:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20157753/detail.html

Just a minute... is that the rumble of Karma I hear in the distance? :thumbsup:

[5boxersmom]

From your link:

Brad Conway, said the subpoena for the documents was issued a few weeks ago.

...he (BC) is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Does our attorney was too busy and our computer was broke work in the courts?

jmo

Wow it is always something with them isn't it?

jmo

[desmom]

Anthonys May Be Back In Court Friday
http://www.wftv.com/news/20158664/detail.html

The State Attorney's Office wants a judge to force George and Cindy to provide more information about their daughter.

The attorney's office says the Anthonys are not being cooperative. Lawyers in the civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony are also making similar claims.

Hmmm, more information about Casey.

ETA: Question - If this does end up before the Judge tomorrow, will it come out in the hearing exactly what the State is requesting? TIA

[bchand]

From your link:

Brad Conway, said the subpoena for the documents was issued a few weeks ago.

...he (BC) is preoccupied with other clients and the Anthonys have had a hard time producing the documents because their computer has been down.

Does our attorney was too busy and our computer was broke work in the courts?

jmo

A few weeks ago eh? It would be very easy to check for any activity on that computer for the past two weeks.

Maybe he should have just said they've been too busy pushing their foundation.

[bchand]

Anthonys May Be Back In Court Friday
http://www.wftv.com/news/20158664/detail.html

The State Attorney's Office wants a judge to force George and Cindy to provide more information about their daughter.

The attorney's office says the Anthonys are not being cooperative. Lawyers in the civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony are also making similar claims.

Hmmm, more information about Casey.

ETA: Question - If this does end up before the Judge tomorrow, will it come out in the hearing exactly what the State is requesting? TIA

Hopefully Katprint or Lapis can answer your eta but "more info about their daughter" could still be the financial aspect.

[Imperfect4]

Anthonys May Be Back In Court Friday
http://www.wftv.com/news/20158664/detail.html

The State Attorney's Office wants a judge to force George and Cindy to provide more information about their daughter.

The attorney's office says the Anthonys are not being cooperative. Lawyers in the civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony are also making similar claims.

Hmmm, more information about Casey.

ETA: Question - If this does end up before the Judge tomorrow, will it come out in the hearing exactly what the State is requesting? TIA

Can't answer your question, but if I were a betting gal, I'd bet there'll be no hearing tomorrow. I predict the Ants will get off the pot if it comes down to turning over their docs vs. another visit with Judge Strickland.

From your link:

The attorney's office says the Anthonys are not being cooperative. Lawyers in the civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony are also making similar claims.

:ohmy:

:lol:

[Sun]

Anthonys May Be Back In Court Friday
http://www.wftv.com/news/20158664/detail.html

The State Attorney's Office wants a judge to force George and Cindy to provide more information about their daughter.

The attorney's office says the Anthonys are not being cooperative. Lawyers in the civil lawsuit against Casey Anthony are also making similar claims.

Hmmm, more information about Casey.

ETA: Question - If this does end up before the Judge tomorrow, will it come out in the hearing exactly what the State is requesting? TIA

So far, I've not seen any of the news articles say that they will be live streaming the court hearing. I'm hoping... for that is probably the only way that we may know what the docs are.

[bchand]

It's sometimes called and "Order to Show Cause". Essentially, it's similar to a Motion were you are to respond or appear before the Court and to "show cause" why something should or should not happen.

Thanks Blackbird.

[Sun]

I wonder if Baez ever got all those phone records from George and Cindy?

[summer]

Maybe this is what that pow-wow was about the other night (when Really said there were lots of cars at the Anthonys...)

[Imperfect4]

It's sometimes called and "Order to Show Cause". Essentially, it's similar to a Motion were you are to respond or appear before the Court and to "show cause" why something should or should not happen.

Thanks. Some of the other Google links seem to talk about it only with regard to child support.

So in this instance, am I correct in assuming this "showing cause" thing applies to the Anthonys and their requirement to explain to the court the cause for not yet producing the subpoenaed documents? Did I just make sense? :huh:

[summer]

I wonder if Baez ever got all those phone records from George and Cindy?

Whatever it is, if they were trying to comply in good faith (uh huh) their attorney should've kept the SA advised.

These people only scramble when their backs are to the wall (just like JB paying BOA).

[Lavinia]

Yeah, she was like that on my TV set too. :laugh:
Isn't this a coinky-dink? She was on mine also! :laugh:

[bchand]

Can't answer your question, but if I were a betting gal, I'd bet there'll be no hearing tomorrow. I predict the Ants will get off the pot if it comes down to turning over their docs vs. another visit with Judge Strickland.

From your link:



:ohmy:

:lol:


I think they'll turn over the documents too but I wonder if the judge still can have the hearing to help make them understand deadlines?

(I have no idea, just wishful thinking.)

[Imperfect4]

Maybe this is what that pow-wow was about the other night (when Really said there were lots of cars at the Anthonys...)

Maybe the Milsteads are branching out to computer repair, now that their No Kids Found Network has gone bust?

[summer]

They act like spoiled brat children so Strickland should treat them as such. No slack.

[sammy62]

Has anyone heard what time this is supposed to be?

[Imperfect4]

Isn't this a coinky-dink? She was on mine also! :laugh:

She was spreading the love from Florida, over to Texas, on over to Nevada, and on up into Canada. :laugh:

[bchand]

Has anyone heard what time this is supposed to be?

1:30 pm


I'm also surprised that Conway has other clients. He seems to be with the Anthonys all the time.

[summer]

Maybe the Milsteads are branching out to computer repair, now that their No Kids Found Network has gone bust?

NKFN - that's a keeper. :smile:

[BobbysGirl]

"The Anthonys are having computer problems." -- Brad Conway

FGS :rolleyes:

Hi all, I try to keep up. circumstances keep me way behind. And off the boards.

So, computer problems? OK. They don't seem to have and on the CMA site.

Be glad what the court as to say if they appear tomorrow? Sumpin fishy. MOO

BG

[Imperfect4]

I think they'll turn over the documents too but I wonder if the judge still can have the hearing to help make them understand deadlines?

(I have no idea, just wishful thinking.)

I'm thinking it's doubtful. Especially since their last encounter featured George first crying at the podium, then storming out of the courtroom, and Cindy performing from her seat in the gallery. I doubt Judge S. wants to follow that last meeting with a public smackdown. (But as Really said the other day ... a girl can dream!)

[Imperfect4]

1:30 pm


I'm also surprised that Conway has other clients. He seems to be with the Anthonys all the time.

(I seem to be following you, lol.)

Seems to me BC and the Ants weren't exactly thick as thieves the last couple times they were in public together. Remember?

[Sun]

Whatever it is, if they were trying to comply in good faith (uh huh) their attorney should've kept the SA advised.

These people only scramble when their backs are to the wall (just like JB paying BOA).

Yes, once again Cindy and George, and Conway are providing "excuses" for their behavior. In this instance, it's the lack of producing.

I imagine that the State, and also Judge Strickland, deal with this type of thing more often than we might imagine. Cindy and George will be made to realize that the State is not bluffing.

[Lavinia]

She was spreading the love from Florida, over to Texas, on over to Nevada, and on up into Canada. :laugh:

:laugh: Don't even start me, lol. We could riff on that all night long. (Before picking an instrument.) :laugh:

[Lavinia]

(I seem to be following you, lol.)

Seems to me BC and the Ants weren't exactly thick as thieves the last couple times they were in public together. Remember?

I think he avoids them in buildings with stairs. :ohmy:

[bchand]

(I seem to be following you, lol.)

Seems to me BC and the Ants weren't exactly thick as thieves the last couple times they were in public together. Remember?

Yep. He did seem to think there wasn't a legitmate reason for them not visiting their daughter right? Maybe that didn't go over so well with the queen.