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RootBeer
07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
This thread will be about the different books, authors, and opinions regarding MJ.


Biographies are my favorite books to read. I have never read one about MJ, but I bought one today at Target.

The Final Years of Michael Jackson Unmasked by Ian Halperin

I will post more about this book "Unmasked", when I get more into it.

Anyone else reading any MJ books? I thought I saw another poster mention they were a few days back.

RootBeer
07-22-2009, 04:27 PM
I am in the middle of reading Ian Halperin's book right now.

I have also read Redemption by Geraldine Hughes; Micheal Jackson Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones; The Magic and the Madness by J Randy Taraborelli and I Moonwalk by MJ.

Wow, you have done some serious reading. I am going to add those to my list also. Thanks for replying.

RootBeer
07-22-2009, 04:38 PM
Thanks for the above link.

I usually check books out from the library.

retiredcop
07-22-2009, 04:50 PM
Has anyone read the behind the mask book. I have it, but have never read it. My favorite books are non fiction and I do read a lot of true crime.

in my opinion

disneyfreak
07-22-2009, 05:13 PM
The Magic and the Madness by J Randy Taraborelli

Moonwalk - MJ

Michael Jackson: The Man behind the Mask- Bob Jones

Freak! - (taken from the files of the National Enquirer ..don't remember the "author")

I have also read a bunch of books about the trial and previous cases, ranging from All That Glitters by Raymond Chandler to Be Careful Who You Love by Dimond and Michael Jackson Conspiracy by Jones.

retiredcop
07-22-2009, 06:41 PM
I also have Freak. The author is Nick Bishop..

kellabeck
07-22-2009, 06:43 PM
Has anyone read the behind the mask book. I have it, but have never read it. My favorite books are non fiction and I do read a lot of true crime.

in my opinion

Yes. I own and have read THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK by Bob Jones with Stacy Brown. It's quite eye-opening.

And I also have and have read the book by Jordy Chandler's uncle. Also very revealing.

disneyfreak
07-22-2009, 06:59 PM
Yes. I own and have read THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK by Bob Jones with Stacy Brown. It's quite eye-opening.

And I also have and have read the book by Jordy Chandler's uncle. Also very revealing.

Yes, I read them both as well. There were quite interesting.

@retiredcop- thanks for the author on Freak! It was great summer reading...I love junk "novels". IE: It was filled with crap but fun to read.

tiptop
07-22-2009, 08:35 PM
I read Unmasked by Ian Haperin this past weekend.

I've always liked MJ's music yet straddled the fence as to my thoughts on his guilt or innocence as far as the molestation charges go. I had posted before that I found Ian's book attrractive because he started his investigation of MJ to nail him to the cross. He believed he was guilty as sin and wanted to prove it. But at the end of the day, he found Michael to be a victim of extortion.

We're only human and form our opinions based on our own personal experiences and those of our loved ones. It's difficult in a case like this to know what is true and what is not. Some posters wont accept this link or that as credible while others do. Of course I dont believe everything I read, but the book did make me more aware of the possibility MJ was being extorted. But again, can Ian and his sources be trusted? At any rate, I found the book a very easy read and finished it quickly.

RootBeer
07-23-2009, 09:33 AM
I read Unmasked by Ian Haperin this past weekend.

I've always liked MJ's music yet straddled the fence as to my thoughts on his guilt or innocence as far as the molestation charges go. I had posted before that I found Ian's book attrractive because he started his investigation of MJ to nail him to the cross. He believed he was guilty as sin and wanted to prove it. But at the end of the day, he found Michael to be a victim of extortion.

We're only human and form our opinions based on our own personal experiences and those of our loved ones. It's difficult in a case like this to know what is true and what is not. Some posters wont accept this link or that as credible while others do. Of course I dont believe everything I read, but the book did make me more aware of the possibility MJ was being extorted. But again, can Ian and his sources be trusted? At any rate, I found the book a very easy read and finished it quickly.

Thank you for your reply. I am enjoying the book also.

who_is_it
07-23-2009, 01:54 PM
I read Unmasked by Ian Haperin this past weekend.

I've always liked MJ's music yet straddled the fence as to my thoughts on his guilt or innocence as far as the molestation charges go. I had posted before that I found Ian's book attrractive because he started his investigation of MJ to nail him to the cross. He believed he was guilty as sin and wanted to prove it. But at the end of the day, he found Michael to be a victim of extortion.

We're only human and form our opinions based on our own personal experiences and those of our loved ones. It's difficult in a case like this to know what is true and what is not. Some posters wont accept this link or that as credible while others do. Of course I dont believe everything I read, but the book did make me more aware of the possibility MJ was being extorted. But again, can Ian and his sources be trusted? At any rate, I found the book a very easy read and finished it quickly.

I would be interested in your and Athena's opinion about the gay claims in Halperin's book....?

who_is_it
07-23-2009, 02:00 PM
Ismail Reed has written a book about MJ, too.

The author about "white" journalism:
"With the absence of black and Latinos from journalism, the media have become a spare all white jury always ready to take down a black celebrity (...)."

(Apart from MJ) he critisizes the absense of black and latino journalists.

He gives factual information about the MJ trial:

"None of the media descriptions of Jackson’s career, including a superficial pop-driven survey of the star’s career by Anderson Cooper, referred to the 2005 plaintiff’s lies and his mother’s shabby history of conning individuals and institutions including J. C. Penney’s, which she accused of sexual abuse. She claimed that she had been "fondled inappropriately” by store personnel. Documents also hinted that "…the mom rehearsed her children to corroborate her story."

During the 2005 trial, Jackson’s Attorney, Tom Mesereau Jr. got the teenage boy to admit that he lied under oath during the J. C. Penny case. (...) Linda Deutsch, one of the last of hard-nosed shoe leather journalists, reporting for the Associated Press on March of 2005. said that Mesereau got the 15 year old to admit that he’d told Jeffrey Alpert, a school official that "nothing happened" between Jackson and him.

(...)

While referring to Jackson as "bizarre" none of the cable reporting about Jackson's death cited the bizarre courtroom testimony of the plaintiff’s mother, Janet Arvizo. At one point during her testimony, she said that feared her children would disappear from Neverland, Jackson’s ranch, in a hot air balloon.

(...)

Finally, in November of 2006, according to TMZ, Janet Arvizo pled no contest to a welfare fraud charge in Los Angeles. She was ordered to 150 hours of community service and to pay $8, 600 in restitution. During Jackson's trial, Arvizo invoked the Fifth regarding welfare fraud. Seems that she applied for welfare even though she’d received a $150, 000 settlement from J. C. Penny’s. Even with the mother's behavior and the boys lies, Nancy Grace, commenting on the death of Jackson, said that she was surprised by the not guilty verdict in the Jackson trial. No wonder Ms. Grace has been called "a cheerleader for the prosecution."
http://www.counterpunch.org/reed06292009.html

He mentions his book in the article.

RootBeer
07-23-2009, 04:50 PM
I would be interested in your and Athena's opinion about the gay claims in Halperin's book....?

FYI: I am still on the fence. :confused:

who_is_it
07-23-2009, 06:08 PM
The one guy that was interviewed refused to show proof (although he said he had proof) claiming it would betray MJ and claimed they had signed a confidentialy agreement so it is just his word and MJ is not here to dispute it. A confidentiality agreement ends with a person's death so I don't buy it. The reference to the 2nd guy was hearsay and the source of the info and some of the statements that were made just did NOT ring true to me at all. I would not have any issue admitting that MJ was gay -- just haven't seen proof of it. IMO

Anything that was printed and not proven I take with a grain of salt; however anything is possible. There were a few things I actually found questionable but overall the book is not bad and is pretty balanced.

I thought the same: The confidentiality agreement(s) end(s) with his death... and actually at least one of the alleged gay lovers (if there were several) would have come out.

I have no issues with it, either. I thought it c-o-u-l-d be that he was gay but realised that in his late years.

He had no childhood, catched up on his childhood in his twenties, had his first relationships to women in his thirties, realised in his forties that he's gay -- like other men realise they're gay after their first experiences with women.

who_is_it
07-23-2009, 06:21 PM
FYI: I am still on the fence. :confused:

"Michael Jackson was into men, not boys - and masqueraded as a woman with his lovers, a new book claims."

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/michael_jackson/2009/07/08/2009-07-08_michael_jackson_was_gay_claims_new_book.html

Best, most factual article about the claims of the book I've found is on this gay website. The gay authors think he was asexual, not gay:

http://www.queerty.com/was-michael-jackson-gay-no-but-he-wasnt-exactly-straight-either-20090715/

froggytuff
07-24-2009, 01:24 AM
I have the book Moonwalk but you can download a free text document here - just won't have the pictures. It opens with Word.
This is a direct link so just click on "download file". My sister sent this to me not realizing I had the book.

http://pdfdatabase.com/download_file_i.php?qq=download%20book%20moonwalk&file=5521993&desc=1988-04-05+MichaelJackson-Moonwalk+.doc

Thank u sooo much for this link. I have been wanting the book for sooo long, but its currently priced at $200-$275 on ebay and Amazon.
It was just toooo expensive. Now I can read it at last. Thank u so much.:laugh:

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 12:46 PM
I've read there's a book in the bestseller lists which is called:
"Michael Jackson: The One and Only" by Triumph Books. What kind of book is it? What position do the authors have?

tiptop
07-24-2009, 01:17 PM
I would be interested in your and Athena's opinion about the gay claims in Halperin's book....?

Like some others, I've always thought of Michael as asexual. Somewhere I read that Michael was "given" prostitutes around the age of 15 and really freaked out about it. I've been reading so much lately - I think it was in Ian's book but I could be mistaken. I think he spent so much time in the business from such an early age he didnt really have time to explore his sexual side.

I did read in Unmasked about Michael's MTV Awards kiss with Lisa Marie. And how (although I didnt see it) a camera caught Lisa off-stage wiping her mouth immediately. One could make many conclusions from that, but I still think it was just a marriage to appease the public. There is a bit about Scientology in the book and a brief comparison to John Travolta and how Scientology not only orchestrated his marriage to Kelly Preston but also Lisa and Michael's marriage too. Scientologists dont care much for gays but do care about their money and insist they can cure them. (Last sentence JMO.)

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 01:28 PM
Like some others, I've always thought of Michael as asexual. Somewhere I read that Michael was "given" prostitutes around the age of 15 and really freaked out about it. I've been reading so much lately - I think it was in Ian's book but I could be mistaken. I think he spent so much time in the business from such an early age he didnt really have time to explore his sexual side.

I did read in Unmasked about Michael's MTV Awards kiss with Lisa Marie. And how (although I didnt see it) a camera caught Lisa off-stage wiping her mouth immediately. One could make many conclusions from that, but I still think it was just a marriage to appease the public. There is a bit about Scientology in the book and a brief comparison to John Travolta and how Scientology not only orchestrated his marriage to Kelly Preston but also Lisa and Michael's marriage too. Scientologists dont care much for gays but do care about their money and insist they can cure them. (Last sentence JMO.)

I'm very, very careful with statements like the one you quoted from the book about the MTV awards incident. One doesn't know at all why Lisa Marie wiped her mouth. I tend not to interpret gestures or facial expressions of celebrities. For example paparazzi take pics of a frustrated looking celebrity accompanied by stories about the celeb's unhappy relationship or whatever... but there could be 1000 other reasons why the celebrity looked frustrated in the moment the pic was taken -- if not a least because he or she felt harrassed by the paps.

Like I said before I wouldn't have a issue with MJ having been gay... but I also could imagine the author himself is gay and it's his wishful thinking MJ was gay as well. I could be wrong about it, for sure.

By all I know about the book: At least Ian Halperin gives factual information about the trial. This is important imo.

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 07:53 PM
@ Athena

Athena, do you know how the source which once published the court transcripts accessed / received the testimonies? Were they transmitted electronically? Is it possible that the defense transmitted them?

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:18 PM
OK but it is you who mentioned the group's name. :shrug:

Yes, and unless something specific can be proven via the site, its all inflammatory IMO.

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:26 PM
I disagree. It's no more inflammatory than saying "gay authors

think he was asexual, not gay" IMO

Not to me. I'm gay.

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 09:26 PM
I don't understand your question who is it? You mean for Halperin's book -- I would guess he could have accessed the transcripts or even from his fan group.

No, no, I wasn't talking about the Halperin book but about THE transcripts which we've read during the trial.

My issue is: How / By whom were the transcripts transmitted to the website which sold them?

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:34 PM
Fine by me...

but I wasn't talking about you or the authors. Are you saying it's more flattering to be labeled "asexual" ?

When it comes to Michael's situation, yes. IMO

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 09:42 PM
When it comes to Michael's situation, yes. IMO

You posted above you're gay. I'm straight. -- Sexual orientation has nothing at all to do with pedophilia.

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:48 PM
You posted above you're gay. I'm straight. -- Sexual orientation has nothing at all to do with pedophilia.

I responded to a comment about gay authors. Of course orientation has nothing to do with pedophilia.

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:52 PM
I disagree. I really believe whatever happens to a pedophiles brain to make them that way ...is hard wired. Like a sexual orientation. That's why they're so difficult to treat. imo

I do believe some people are pedophiles that have never acted on their impulses...I believe that's where Mj may fall. imo

I dont understand your point. Do you think anyone (gay or straight) can be a pedophile?

tiptop
07-24-2009, 09:56 PM
No.

I believe some may PRETEND to be either to gain access to a child.

But if you are not wired to like the young, why would you pretend to do so? If you get no pleasure from it, what it the point in pretending? Perhaps I am not understanding you correctly.

who_is_it
07-24-2009, 10:11 PM
I responded to a comment about gay authors. Of course orientation has nothing to do with pedophilia.

toodarntired's comment was a response to my post in which I mentioned a gay website which labeled MJ "asexual".

I jumped on the "less flattering" thing... "Gay" is only "less flattering" than "asexual" if one jumps to other conclusions about the controversy about MJ.

But that's not what I wanted to discuss. The only intention of my original post was to know how credible the claims in the book are.

tiptop
07-24-2009, 10:19 PM
toodarntired's comment was a response to my post in which I mentioned a gay website which labeled MJ "asexual".

I jumped on the "less flattering" thing... "Gay" is only "less flattering" than "asexual" if one jumps to other conclusions about the controversy about MJ.

But that's not what I wanted to discuss. The only intention of my original post was to know how credible the claims in the book are.

And I was one who mentioned early on I thought Michael was asexual.

Holy cow, how can any of us know how credible the book is? It's just like anything else we read and hear on TV or our computer or in a book. It prompted my earlier statement about how our beliefs are formed based on our history. Our personal experiences and the experiences of our loved ones. Who really knows if Michael molested anyone other than Michael and the person in question?

RootBeer
07-27-2009, 09:02 AM
Book - Unmasked

I just got past the part where Ian smoked a joint with Liza Manelli. :laugh:

tiptop
07-27-2009, 09:11 AM
Book - Unmasked

I just got past the part where Ian smoked a joint with Liza Manelli. :laugh:

Tee-hee, and apparently it got her talking too!

ScoobyDoo
07-28-2009, 04:22 PM
I don't think you are understanding me at all and I'm not sure where the communication breakdown occured?

I think in MJ's case..he probably was hard wired that way...perhaps he just never acted on those sexual impulses. That wouldn't make him asexual, it would make him a non practicing pedophile. IMO

It would also make him Innocent of pedophilia.

who_is_it
07-28-2009, 05:37 PM
I skip the controversial off-topic discussion and go back to the claims of the book:

It's hard to believe that he had a relationship with a construction worker and waiter. But what just came to my mind is: He was very close to Christian Audigier.

RootBeer
07-31-2009, 10:08 PM
This thread will be about the different books, authors, and opinions regarding MJ.


Biographies are my favorite books to read. I have never read one about MJ, but I bought one today at Target.

The Final Years of Michael Jackson Unmasked by Ian Halperin

I will post more about this book "Unmasked", when I get more into it.

Anyone else reading any MJ books? I thought I saw another poster mention they were a few days back.

OK so I finished the book last week. I liked it, and I thought it was easy to read and kept my attention. I have never read any of Ian Halperin's other books, but now plan to someday.

My conclusion about this book:

*The author believes that MJ was innocent of all child molestation charges.

*The author believes that MJ was forever tarnished by the molestation charges and it destroyed him that he was not as loved as much as he once was by the world.

*The author believes that MJ selected Dr. Murray to help him end his life (without the Dr. knowing that was the goal). In other words, MJ wanted to die.

I have just started reading "On Michael Jackson" by Margo Jefferson. This is a deep look at "what is it" about MJ. More to come....

BOZGAL2
07-31-2009, 11:51 PM
I just ordered:

The Magic and the Madness by J Randy Taraborelli
Unmasked by Ian Halperin

I cannot wait to read these.

I'm also curious about:
MJ Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones & Tom Mesereau

February
08-01-2009, 01:45 AM
Michael wrote Moonwalk which I read.
I was amazed at the child like observations and sentences.
He really was a man with the mind of a child.
His childhood that was taken from him , and that's where he stayed..mentally.

who_is_it
08-01-2009, 12:03 PM
I desperately want to read "Redemption" by Geraldine Hughes. The problem is that the book is no longer available -- not even on amazon or ebay.

The former publisher's website doesn't exist anymore. It was branchandvinepublishers.com

Does anyone have an idea how I could get the book?
-----------------------
I distance from my innuendo on Christian Audigier above. I think they were just friends and business partners.

BOZGAL2
08-01-2009, 09:02 PM
Ooh Boz - hope you ordered the updated one by Taraborelli (The Whole Story)

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-Magic-Madness-1958-2009/dp/0446564745/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249147912&sr=1-1

I did. Forgot to add that little tidbit of info. :wink:

sallemae
08-04-2009, 06:52 AM
I read Unmasked by Ian Haperin this past weekend.

I've always liked MJ's music yet straddled the fence as to my thoughts on his guilt or innocence as far as the molestation charges go. I had posted before that I found Ian's book attrractive because he started his investigation of MJ to nail him to the cross. He believed he was guilty as sin and wanted to prove it. But at the end of the day, he found Michael to be a victim of extortion.

We're only human and form our opinions based on our own personal experiences and those of our loved ones. It's difficult in a case like this to know what is true and what is not. Some posters wont accept this link or that as credible while others do. Of course I dont believe everything I read, but the book did make me more aware of the possibility MJ was being extorted. But again, can Ian and his sources be trusted? At any rate, I found the book a very easy read and finished it quickly.


Thank you for sharing that, now I need to read it.

sallemae
08-04-2009, 07:12 AM
Michael wrote Moonwalk which I read.
I was amazed at the child like observations and sentences.
He really was a man with the mind of a child.
His childhood that was taken from him , and that's where he stayed..mentally.



That's exactly what I thought, such a simple book to read. But good as in knowing MJ at that time of his life.

tiptop
08-05-2009, 06:18 PM
I just ordered:

The Magic and the Madness by J Randy Taraborelli
Unmasked by Ian Halperin

I cannot wait to read these.

I'm also curious about:
MJ Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones & Tom Mesereau

FYI for all: At this moment, Amazon has Taraborelli's updated Magic and Madness 1958-2009 for ten bucks and some change. I was surprised to find it at my super Walmart tonight for a little more than $13. Great pics IMO. I have enjoyed looking at them.



To sallemae - hope you will like Unmasked and you're welcome.

tiptop
08-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Xenam - I thought about buying the AJ book but havent yet. I also want to get a DD book and compare them all. For what it's worth, I didnt realize Taraborrelli had spent so much time with Michael throughout the years. I am anxious to start his updated book. It's freeking huge. lol

tiptop
08-05-2009, 06:45 PM
Has anyone heard of Michael's half-sister Joh'Vonnie?

She is pictured in Taraborrelli updated book as a 16-year-old in 1991. I also noticed in another pic, Joe was standing next to a woman named Gina Sprague and the caption reads that Katherine thought they were having an affair. I wonder if she is Joh'Vonnie's mother?

darabbit
08-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Has anyone heard of Michael's half-sister Joh'Vonnie?

She is pictured in Taraborrelli updated book as a 16-year-old in 1991. I also noticed in another pic, Joe was standing next to a woman named Gina Sprague and the caption reads that Katherine thought they were having an affair. I wonder if she is Joh'Vonnie's mother?


Here is an article that might interest you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137049,00.html

daniel green
08-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Aprhodite Jones had to be one of MJ's worst critics up there with DD, NG and MO. However, she too set out to find out how a jury could submit a verdict of NG:

snipped

She is the one who hung around with Garagos during the Peterson trial, right?

I actually bought a book of hers some time ago--about Michael Peterson--and it was so completely and utterly badly written and replete with factual errors that I threw it away when I was about half-way done with it.

ScoobyDoo
08-12-2009, 07:58 PM
Michael Jackson: Triumph and Tragedy
Linda Grasse, Santa Ynez

Can one even imagine the heartache it would cause such a good person, who loved children so much, to be falsely accused of hurting a child? It is obvious this man loved children in the most honest and decent way. To label him a pedophile, when he worked so tirelessly to help children and bring joy into their lives, is an unbelievable cruelty. Of all the thousands of lives he touched in such a positive way it is appalling to realize that when the rotten few attempted to extort money from him, the police and Santa Barbara County District Attorney office not only did not protect him, but turned on him and charged him with crimes that must have been the ultimate insult and most hurtful imaginable to him – crimes against children.

In November 2003, over 60 sheriff’s deputies and representatives of the district attorney’s office, in 19 vehicles, descended on Neverland to serve a search warrant. The allegations against Michael had been made by the most unsavory of people clearly in an attempt to extort money. These people had approached him and asked for his help. When he helped them they repaid his kindness by virtually destroying his life and reputation. The false charges filed against Michael Jackson are another form of the police brutality so prevalent in California today.

And here lies the tragedy. We are conditioned to believe that in this great country we are “innocent until proven guilty.” The truth of the matter is you are considered guilty as soon as you are charged, you are considered guilty as soon as you are arrested, you are considered guilty as soon as you enter the jail, you are considered guilty when you go to trial, and you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent.

In Michael’s case, he was innocent, and found not guilty in a court of law of 9 felony charges, yet in the brutal court of public opinion he has somehow been tried and convicted. He experienced the worst character assassination of any celebrity of our generation. He has been ridiculed and scorned. He was made a public spectacle. He was a very private person humiliated by a very public trial. He was called names in the media and by the public and even now as we mourn the loss of this incredible man, the word “molestation” appears in almost every article or story about him. What a disgrace.

For such a sensitive artist and beautiful person with a kind and gentle heart this alone might have been enough to kill him.

http://www.independent.com/news/2009/jul/09/michael-jackson-triumph-and-tragedy/?print


That is a great article. I agree with everything the author says. Thanks for posting it.

ScoobyDoo
08-14-2009, 03:09 PM
IMO It was a unbiased opinion.....


Probably uninformed as well.

imo...of course.

ScoobyDoo
08-14-2009, 04:58 PM
Are you claiming she didn't read the book? ...eyeroll.....


Who?? What book?

:confused:

who_is_it
08-14-2009, 05:38 PM
The "Rolling Stone - Michael Jackson - Hope and ruin" isn't available in Europe... - just another "Rolling Stone" special edition. I think about ordering it from amazon US. -- Is it worth the effort? Did you like to read the special edition "Hope and ruin"?

tiptop
08-15-2009, 09:04 PM
One of the books I ordered came today.

My Three Years Working For Michael Jackson by Robert W. Wegner



It's only 90 pages....DOUBLE SPACED .........in large font!

It better be better than I expect .......after looking at it. lol


lol - sorry, but this made me chuckle... :biggrin: Large font, double spaced....... *giggle*

GentleBreeze
08-16-2009, 09:41 AM
Aprhodite Jones had to be one of MJ's worst critics up there with DD, NG and MO. However, she too set out to find out how a jury could submit a verdict of NG:

"Aphrodite Jones, a reporter, ashamed of her behavior during Michael Jackson's trial, having realized that she was wrong, has written this book - "Michael Jackson Conspiracy" - which is pretty much a compact version of Michael Jackson's trial. It details exactly what happened in the courtroom at Michael Jackson's trial (using actual trial testimony), the facts that were revealed and exposed, the witnesses and what they stated, how Michael Jackson's defense team managed to successfully destroy prosecution theories and witnesses on a daily basis, how the media did not want to report anything that was favorable to Michael Jackson or his defense team, how some media reporters had already secured deals to have access to Michael Jackson if he was to be found guilty and imprisoned (which is disgusting, because this behavior implies that these jerks preferred that a child had been molested so that they could profit), and how Michael Jackson was found NOT GUILTY by a jury that saw right through the lies, right through the Arvizo family, right through District Attorney Tom Sneddon and his sham case, and right through the media garbage that has been circulating for years about Michael Jackson."

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-Conspiracy-Aphrodite-Jones/dp/0979549809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249404536&sr=8-1

How well I remember that, X. It takes a lot of courage for someone to admit they were wrong. I love books where the author sets out to prove something else and then finds out the real truth that was there all along.

I definitely want to read this book and am ordering it today.

imo

Firehead11
08-16-2009, 11:30 AM
The "Rolling Stone - Michael Jackson - Hope and ruin" isn't available in Europe... - just another "Rolling Stone" special edition. I think about ordering it from amazon US. -- Is it worth the effort? Did you like to read the special edition "Hope and ruin"?

I can't find which publication you are looking at. Can you give me a link?

RootBeer
08-16-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes. I own and have read THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK by Bob Jones with Stacy Brown. It's quite eye-opening.

And I also have and have read the book by Jordy Chandler's uncle. Also very revealing.

I am almost finished with the book by Jordy's Uncle - Ray Chandler, "All That Glitters". It is a good read.

:thumbup:

who_is_it
08-16-2009, 03:30 PM
I can't find which publication you are looking at. Can you give me a link?

This is the magazine:
"Michael Jackson's final days: Hope and ruin"
http://www.rollingstone.com/issue1084

I won't join the discussion for the next 3.5 weeks. Will see your reply later..., thanx!

who_is_it
08-16-2009, 07:16 PM
Meanwhile I prefer to read or listen to what Michael Jackson HIMSELF said in interviews. There's so much poorly investigated, sensationalizing, selective stuff around -- a source quotes a source and and and. For me it's more inspiring to read or listen to his own rare interviews. His own thoughts are more complex and profound than many judgemental reports about him imo.

who_is_it
08-16-2009, 11:12 PM
Ebony's Michael Jackson commemorative book
"Michael in his own words"

"Michael: In His Own Words, a 100-page book of never-before-seen photos, celebrity tributes and 5,000 words from Michael himself will be released the week of July 13.

In addition to MJ's thoughts, the memorial book will include interviews about the King of Pop with Quincy Jones, Berry Gordy, Ne-Yo, Rev. Al Sharpton, Smokey Robinson, Rev. Jesse Jackson, Suzanne de Passe and many others"

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76175/

RootBeer
08-17-2009, 07:50 AM
I thought it was very good too.

It's a shame the website is no longer around you would have been able to read so many legal documents and even transcripts of Jordie's therapy sessions.

I had them downloaded on my old laptop....I will have to see if I still have it and if I do I'll link you to them after I upload them somewhere.

>.....this will take more than a few days as there's lots going on in real life.

Thanks, no hurries. I will keep checking back here. :thumbup:

daniel green
08-18-2009, 11:32 PM
snipped


I just finished reading Bob Jones book, Man Behind The Mask. Was excellent! Add that one to your list!

Just got that in the mail. Will start tomorrow.

RootBeer
08-19-2009, 07:36 AM
I can't seem to be able to recall my old password on that laptop! ARGHH

BUT! I do know a guy that claims he can get in the backdoor and rest it for me. so...we shall see.


I just finished reading Bob Jones book, Man Behind The Mask. Was excellent! Add that one to your list!

I am going to the library today, I will see if that one is available.

Thanks :thumbup:

mjbones
08-19-2009, 09:52 AM
As this is my 1st post on the msgboards, if its in the wrong area, I apologize.

I've been doing some research, including reading some of the books listed, following links, etc.

I'm just amazed that with all the evidence....taped conversations, diary's of legal secretary's (& if true, would've been evidence in the law office/lawyers home/car to back it up....had law enforcement done their jobs & looked for it).....so essentially, what this teaches us is....if we lie, hire a mean atty....we have the opportunity to become rich.

It really irks me to think Evan Chandler is living the good life.....because he's a liar....with supposed plenty of proof to prove it. If thats the case, why hasn't any legal dept done something?

Why wasn't Sneddon, detectives, etc held liable for their falsehoods & lies? How can a detective legally go tell someone a straight out lie (pictures of your child naked, etc).....and thats ok. Geesh what a crock....its no wonder our legal system is a laughing joke!!!

As far as Michael's sexuality.....I really don't see what difference it makes. Whether he liked women or men, he never flaunted it....& unless you were in his bed....its none of your business.

It just seems.....all those who told lies.....including journalists (DD for example) should be held accountable.

JMHO
mjbones

RootBeer
08-21-2009, 07:47 AM
I couldn't find any MJ books available at my local library, so I got the book by Tatum O'Neil called "A Paper Life". When I get to the parts about her friendship with MJ, I will post about it then.

:thumbsup:

RootBeer
08-23-2009, 09:23 AM
I couldn't find any MJ books available at my local library, so I got the book by Tatum O'Neil called "A Paper Life". When I get to the parts about her friendship with MJ, I will post about it then.

:thumbsup:

Finished the book yesterday. Excellent read. Just a brief mention of MJ and their friendship.

RootBeer
08-26-2009, 07:48 AM
Has anyone here purchased any of the special edition MJ magazines?