The Coming End of the Culture Wars

[daniel green]

Is this just a temporary breathing spell in the culture wars due to the sudden spike in concern about other issues—first Iraq, then the economy—or is a fundamental shift in our politics taking place? I believe the latter is the case since, as this report establishes, ongoing demographic shifts have seriously eroded the mass base for culture wars politics and will continue to erode this base in the future. That means that the advantage conservatives can gain from culture wars politics will steadily diminish and, consequently, so will conservatives’ incentive to engage in such politics

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/culture_wars.html

Link to full report:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/pdf/culture_wars.pdf

[Lady_Jean_La]

It is just the political pendulum swinging. imo

[Brat2002]

What a bunch of junk. This guy thinks his studies are accurate in determining Republican strategies. He got it wrong on many levels. Bush and many other Republicans were all for amnesty, which shoots a hole in the theory. Many Dems on another board were all against amnesty until BO got in. Funny how people can jump to either side of the fence depending on who the current occupant of the WH is. You can't attribute views on illegal immigration to either party. If that issue is part of the so-called culture war, then the sides are not divided by party.

Religion is about much more than abortion. At least one church, I believe in Chicago, was more about hating America, but that sure wasn't a Republican thing. And it wasn't diverse either. Hmmm, maybe some Dems need a lesson in tolerance.

If you're going to poll people, at least find ones who are educated on the subject and not going by some liberal myth they've been taught.

I think liberals should quit pretending to know what Republicans think. They've been wrong more times than I can count and yet they continue coming up with these idiotic theories in hopes that they will stick. Nice try.

IMO

[daniel green]

There are numerous examples of how demographic change is undermining the culture wars. First, Millennials—the generation with birth years 1978 to 2000—support gay marriage, take race and gender equality as givens, are tolerant of religious and family diversity,
have an open and positive attitude toward immigration, and generally display little interest in fighting over the divisive social issues of the past. The number of voting age Millennials will increase by about 4.5 million a year between now and 2018, and the number of Millennials who are eligible voters will increase by about 4 million a year. The 2020 presidential election will be the first where all Millennials will have reached voting age, and at that point the generation will be 103 million strong and have about 90 million eligible voters. Those 90 million Millennial eligible voters will represent just under 40 percent of
America’s eligible voters in that year.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/pdf/culture_wars.pdf

I find those facts truly fascinating.

[daniel green]

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I think liberals should quit pretending to know what Republicans think.

What does that have to do with the study? Did you see the Endnotes, btw?

[Brat2002]

What does that have to do with the study? Did you see the Endnotes, btw?

The entire study and the notes were completely bias and I felt the language was highly unprofessional. This is merely an attack on Republicans. It's garbage.

IMO

[shiloh2000]

What a bunch of junk. This guy thinks his studies are accurate in determining Republican strategies. He got it wrong on many levels. Bush and many other Republicans were all for amnesty, which shoots a hole in the theory. Many Dems on another board were all against amnesty until BO got in. Funny how people can jump to either side of the fence depending on who the current occupant of the WH is. You can't attribute views on illegal immigration to either party. If that issue is part of the so-called culture war, then the sides are not divided by party.

Religion is about much more than abortion. At least one church, I believe in Chicago, was more about hating America, but that sure wasn't a Republican thing. And it wasn't diverse either. Hmmm, maybe some Dems need a lesson in tolerance.

If you're going to poll people, at least find ones who are educated on the subject and not going by some liberal myth they've been taught.

I think liberals should quit pretending to know what Republicans think. They've been wrong more times than I can count and yet they continue coming up with these idiotic theories in hopes that they will stick. Nice try.

IMO

EXCELLENT post! :thumbsup:

[shiloh2000]

BALONEY!! I mean this in the nicest possible way; BALONEY!!

jmho

No you don't......jmho

[Lynden1000]

It should be see easy enough to find out if the Millenials portend a new age of peace and unity by searching for a message board that caters primarily to this age group and has a forum for political discussion. If we see a lack of heated political debate, then there might be something to the idea. Somehow I don't think that's what we'll find, but we'll never know until we look.

[magythekat]

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/culture_wars.html

Link to full report:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/pdf/culture_wars.pdf

You wish Daniel...too funny!

[Sesame Seed]

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/culture_wars.html

Link to full report:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/pdf/culture_wars.pdf

You can't turn back the clock, despite the wishes of many conservatives, imo.

[Susan43]

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/culture_wars.html

Link to full report:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/pdf/culture_wars.pdf

I tend to agree with the study's analysis and I think the last election showed this clearly.

5 Voting Demographics Where Barack Obama Made Headlines

2. Young people: Obama won the under-30 crowd by 34 percentage points. This bested Bill Clinton's 19-point advantage over Bob Dole among young voters in 1996.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2008/11/06/5-voting-demographics-where-barack-obama-made-headlines.html

IMO smart conservatives that are really interested in rebuilding their party will give these figures some thought.

And I agree with you that the facts shown are fascinating.

[daniel green]

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2. Young people: Obama won the under-30 crowd by 34 percentage points. This bested Bill Clinton's 19-point advantage over Bob Dole among young voters in 1996.



And I agree with you that the facts shown are fascinating.

Yep. 34% is huge.

And the Latino voters, as well.

I did find this fascinating:

The number of voting age Millennials will increase by about 4.5 million a year between now and 2018, and the number of Millennials who are eligible voters will increase by about 4 million a year. The 2020 presidential election will be the first where all Millennials will have reached voting age, and at that point the generation will be 103 million strong and have about 90 million eligible voters. Those 90 million Millennial eligible voters will represent just under 40 percent of
America’s eligible voters in that year.

That will really end the whole culture war nonsense.

[Susan43]

Yep. 34% is huge.

And the Latino voters, as well.

I did find this fascinating:



That will really end the whole culture war nonsense.

Yeppers, I think the culture wars are about over too. I was reading an article about Megan McCain earlier and she's dedicated to helping to rebuild the Republican party. And while she has her detractors I'll bet she helps get more young people to the right just by being so sensible.

We need two strong, sensible parties so I really do hope the crazy wingnuts don't drive her out. She's a bright young woman and I'd be proud to have her for a daughter.

Pat Buchanan has written a new column (that I won't link to it's so awful) and if the right follows his advice I think they could be lost forever.

[Brentwood]

Yeppers, I think the culture wars are about over too. I was reading an article about Megan McCain earlier and she's dedicated to helping to rebuild the Republican party. And while she has her detractors I'll bet she helps get more young people to the right just by being so sensible.

We need two strong, sensible parties so I really do hope the crazy wingnuts don't drive her out. She's a bright young woman and I'd be proud to have her for a daughter.

Pat Buchanan has written a new column (that I won't link to it's so awful) and if the right follows his advice I think they could be lost forever.

Unfortunately the rw wingnuts are driving out the moderate repub's. The bottom rocks are showing and this fringe is loud and shrill, Don't they realize they are killing the repub party.

[Brentwood]

I tend to agree with the study's analysis and I think the last election showed this clearly.

5 Voting Demographics Where Barack Obama Made Headlines

2. Young people: Obama won the under-30 crowd by 34 percentage points. This bested Bill Clinton's 19-point advantage over Bob Dole among young voters in 1996.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2008/11/06/5-voting-demographics-where-barack-obama-made-headlines.html

IMO smart conservatives that are really interested in rebuilding their party will give these figures some thought.

And I agree with you that the facts shown are fascinating.

Unfortunately the smart conservatives are being pushed aside and the far right have taken over the party.

[Brentwood]

The trend is obvious. Our country is shifting to blue.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/07/progressive_map/index.html

[Philly]

I really wish the fringe would get less publicity and the republican party settles down and comes up with honest, engaging people to lead them. We truly need two strong parties for checks and balances. But what I'm seeing plastered all over the news are calls for violence, secession, 10 amendment advocates not wanting to have a "United States". ITs very sad.