July 11-12, 2009 Weekend Thread

[desmom]

One year ago ....July 11, 2009

Amy and Ricardo were in Puerto Rico. Casey was driving Amy’s car.

Troy Brown flies to Puerto Rico.
Page 5 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement

Notice of certified letter left on Anthony’s front door per Cindy.
Page 21 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

July 10 or 11 – Casey told Troy Brown she was shopping for a new car.
Page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/...oy---Statement

Casey and Amy’s text messages
Page 57 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Casey to Amy 7/11 7:30 p.m.: I’ll still call you later… but I don’t know if I’m going to be able to come out there at all. I’m going to decide tonight and I’ll let you know either way. If I do I’ll be out there early tomorrow morning.

Casey’s cell phone records
Page 54 - 55 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

Approximately a week ago from July 17, 2008, Casey told Mark Hawkins that she was planning a trip to California and she needed to tell him something. Casey said she told her mother and brother, and she did not know how he would react about what she had to tell him.”
Page 186 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel




One year ago...July 12, 2008

Ricardo, Amy and Troy were in Puerto Rico. Casey was driving Amy’s car.

Casey’s cell phone records
Pages 55 - 57 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

Lee’s receipt list:
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

7/12 Winn Dixie; 9:38 p.m.; check $92.62

No text messages in doc dumps between Amy and Casey.

Casey’s incoming text messages July 12, 2008
Pages 15 – 17 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-012

[desmom]

-snipped-


One year ago...July 12, 2008

Ricardo, Amy and Troy were in Puerto Rico. Casey was driving Amy’s car.

Casey’s cell phone records
Pages 55 - 57 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

Lee’s receipt list:
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

7/12 Winn Dixie; 9:38 p.m.; check $92.62

No text messages in doc dumps between Amy and Casey.

Casey’s incoming text messages July 12, 2008
Pages 15 – 17 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-012

Lee Anthony's list has a $92.62 purchase with a check on 7/12. The time was 9:38 a.m. Lee also has a cash purchase on 7/15 at Winn Dixie for $88.45.
page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

LE's report shows the $92.62 purchase made with Amy's check happened on 7/15, but does not have a time stamp.
page 3 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf

I apologize for the error and confusion.

[BJames]

Good morning to all....and so many thanks once again Desmom for your dailies, you are awesome! :smile:

Reading what Casey said to Amy on 7/11 at 7:30 pm...?
It sounds like even up until that point Casey had Amy believing that she may show up in PR on another flight the next morning...so basically she never came right out and said that she would not be going at all.

Casey to Amy 7/11 7:30 p.m.: I’ll still call you later… but I don’t know if I’m going to be able to come out there at all. I’m going to decide tonight and I’ll let you know either way. If I do I’ll be out there early tomorrow morning.

And then the next day Casey doesn't respond to any of her texts...interesting. I wonder what truly stopped her from purchasing a ticket? She still had Amy's cheques...credit cards from Cindy...something else...maybe to be with TonE?
It did seem as if she was pulling away from that group and trying to get closer to TonE and his friends....she certainly had no problem 'using' folks for what she needed/wanted. IE...a place to stay, the use of a vehicle..and of course...money.

Just my opinion of course..

[desmom]

Good morning to all....and so many thanks once again Desmom for your dailies, you are awesome! :smile:

Reading what Casey said to Amy on 7/11 at 7:30 pm...?
It sounds like even up until that point Casey had Amy believing that she may show up in PR on another flight the next morning...so basically she never came right out and said that she would not be going at all.

Casey to Amy 7/11 7:30 p.m.: I’ll still call you later… but I don’t know if I’m going to be able to come out there at all. I’m going to decide tonight and I’ll let you know either way. If I do I’ll be out there early tomorrow morning.

And then the next day Casey doesn't respond to any of her texts...interesting. I wonder what truly stopped her from purchasing a ticket? She still had Amy's cheques...credit cards from Cindy...something else...maybe to be with TonE?
It did seem as if she was pulling away from that group and trying to get closer to TonE and his friends....she certainly had no problem 'using' folks for what she needed/wanted. IE...a place to stay, the use of a vehicle..and of course...money.

Just my opinion of course..


It was suggested yesterday that maybe Casey has a fear of flying. :shrug:

Would Casey's text messages saying she was checking out a flight for tomorrow hinder her friends plans in PR? Would they be hesitant to make plans because Casey might be flying in and someone would have to pick her up at the airport? Would Casey continue to text she was checking flights out of spitefulness?

jmo

[SoggyBayou]

I'm not sure about casey being afraid to fly.
Here's why, If she went to PR, Casey and the Ant's could not claim that the nanny kidnapped Caylee and flew to PR.
Make sense?

IMO

P.S.
Thanx des. u da bestest.

[BJames]

It was suggested yesterday that maybe Casey has a fear of flying. :shrug:

Would Casey's text messages saying she was checking out a flight for tomorrow hinder her friends plans in PR? Would they be hesitant to make plans because Casey might be flying in and someone would have to pick her up at the airport? Would Casey continue to text she was checking flights out of spitefulness?

jmo

It could be that Casey had/has a fear of flying..she never did make it on a flight to see Jeff Hopkins...?
I suppose it is the ultimate in control....even when Casey wasn't even 'physically present' in PR it would probably influence her 'friends' (or at least Amy) in their plans for the following morning. And as rude as she was...she didn't even come clean and say that she was not going to be there.
And again...it wasn't as if she was never going to have to see these folks again...she was meant to pick Amy up at the airport and she was driving her car (and spending her money).
No conscience to speak of ...in so many ways.


Just my opinion of course...

[Julie Dupree]

It was suggested yesterday that maybe Casey has a fear of flying. :shrug:

Would Casey's text messages saying she was checking out a flight for tomorrow hinder her friends plans in PR? Would they be hesitant to make plans because Casey might be flying in and someone would have to pick her up at the airport? Would Casey continue to text she was checking flights out of spitefulness?

jmo

I do not think Casey had any thoughts of what disruptions she may be causing her friends. I think this is just another prime example of where her mind stayed....in a world that had no bases in reality. It was just conversation to her, much the same as when she discussed planning a party that she had no intentions of attending. It was not that she was lying, she was merely talking, conversing and being herself. I think we make a mistake when we try to measure Casey's actions using things like common sense, morals, decency, and loyality....or any of the things that most people use in their everyday life. To Casey they did not exist. So was Casey being spiteful, I don't think so. I think she was just being Casey.
Julie

[Sun]

It was suggested yesterday that maybe Casey has a fear of flying. :shrug:

Would Casey's text messages saying she was checking out a flight for tomorrow hinder her friends plans in PR? Would they be hesitant to make plans because Casey might be flying in and someone would have to pick her up at the airport? Would Casey continue to text she was checking flights out of spitefulness?

jmo

Good morning everyone! Casey liked drama, and Casey liked to create drama.

[JHP]

I'm not sure about casey being afraid to fly.
Here's why, If she went to PR, Casey and the Ant's could not claim that the nanny kidnapped Caylee and flew to PR.
Make sense?

IMO

P.S.
Thanx des. u da bestest.

She also had Amy's car and checkbook, and was making good use of them. Such a sociopath!

[SoggyBayou]

Why was casey saving her receipts? Weren't they found in casey's belongings at ToneL apt?
Maybe I'm dreaming, feel free to correct me.
IMO

[Sun]

Why was casey saving her receipts? Weren't they found in casey's belongings at ToneL apt?
Maybe I'm dreaming, feel free to correct me.
IMO

I'd also like to hear others opinions on why Casey saved her receipts.

Could it have been just a longtime habit? Did Cindy regularly demand that Casey turn over all receipts to her? Afterall, it was mostly Cindy's money/accounts that Casey used, unless she stole from someone else.

[shelkobe]

I don't think Casey was necessarily saving her receipts as much as it was just in her nature to keep them. If I don't watch it, I can be a pack rat, and that is how I see Casey and her mother. After seeing all the bins in the garage and all the toys in Caylee's room, I think the Anthony women just have a packrat mentality and Casey never bothered to throw out the receipts.

I also think Casey did not buy a ticket to PR because she didn't have the money -- I think the only cards she had of Cindy's were store credit cards.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone!!

I keep all my receipts in my purse till I clean it out, lol.

No real reason. Just a habit to stick them in there. If I purchase something that I may need to return later, such as clothes, I will put the receipt in the bag along with the merchandise.

[shelkobe]

G'morning, everyone!!

I keep all my receipts in my purse till I clean it out, lol.

No real reason. Just a habit to stick them in there. If I purchase something that I may need to return later, such as clothes, I will put the receipt in the bag along with the merchandise.
I relate to this as well. And I just got a new wallet for my birthday but haven't changed over yet as my old one has so many receipts and I dread going through them. You never do know when you'll need a receipt!

[desmom]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

I wanted to add this to the time line, but it is not dated and I had no idea where to add it.

page 1 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/11.pdf

Unallocated Space

The following is what appears to be fragments of yahoo web mail and an email recovered from unallocated space.

Scroll down to page 2:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I don't know who or what to believe anymore.  You've told me everyday that you were going to call   me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on?  I've  tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of  Caylee or gotten to speak to her.  It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch  is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme  parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them?  I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre

The author is not identified in LE's report. IMO, the author is Cindy.

According to Cindy's interview with LE on 8/04 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf - page 17, Cindy found out Casey was in J'ville on July 3 and had been all week. Cindy told LE Casey was supposed to come home on July 12. Casey had excuses through the 14th.

A little google search for "anheuser busch being sold" brought up numerous articles dated July 14, 2008. The oldest articles I could find were dated June 11, 2008.

Because Cindy wrote Are you still with Jeff? the email was wrote sometime between July 3 - July 15.

I am confused by, It's been over a month now. Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15. Over a month would have be have been prior to June 15. I think that takes us back to the June 9 date the family was throwing out to LE in the beginning.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmo

SNIPPED

I think its highly possible, Des.

Bear with me, as I can't think of all the facts, but, didn't someone, like Lee, make statements, oh, its coming to me now, lol. Lee told TonE while he was wearing the wiretap that the 'fight' was about Cindy being upset that Casey was out partying and not coming home.

This 'fight' had to have happened prior to the Father's Day fight.

[Julie Dupree]

I was going thru some old files and found this link that I thought some of you might want to review. I found some new things that I either did not remember or remembered them a little differently...

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/casey-cindy-and-georgelies-part-1-2-of-4/

Julie

[trich]

I don't think Casey was necessarily saving her receipts as much as it was just in her nature to keep them. If I don't watch it, I can be a pack rat, and that is how I see Casey and her mother. After seeing all the bins in the garage and all the toys in Caylee's room, I think the Anthony women just have a packrat mentality and Casey never bothered to throw out the receipts.

I also think Casey did not buy a ticket to PR because she didn't have the money -- I think the only cards she had of Cindy's were store credit cards.

I think the only way Casey could have purchased a ticket to PR would have been with Amy's checks.
But in order to get ticket and on plane she would have had to show ID.
The stores were lax in that they didn't do a good job in that resepect but to get on an airplane you have to have id for the name of ticket.
Not sure she was smart enough to have been able to accomplish that but then you never know.
So I guess she decided if she could not be in PR she would just have her own fun buying things with Amy's money.

Let's face it Casey just thought for the moment she never ever thought how she was going to explain
her lies or actions.

[gaelicpeas]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

I wanted to add this to the time line, but it is not dated and I had no idea where to add it.

page 1 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/11.pdf

Unallocated Space

The following is what appears to be fragments of yahoo web mail and an email recovered from unallocated space.

Scroll down to page 2:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I don't know who or what to believe anymore.  You've told me everyday that you were going to call   me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on?  I've  tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of  Caylee or gotten to speak to her.  It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch  is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme  parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them?  I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre

The author is not identified in LE's report. IMO, the author is Cindy.

According to Cindy's interview with LE on 8/04 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf - page 17, Cindy found out Casey was in J'ville on July 3 and had been all week. Cindy told LE Casey was supposed to come home on July 12. Casey had excuses through the 14th.

A little google search for "anheuser busch being sold" brought up numerous articles dated July 14, 2008. The oldest articles I could find were dated June 11, 2008.

Because Cindy wrote Are you still with Jeff? the email was wrote sometime between July 3 - July 15.

I am confused by, It's been over a month now. Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15. Over a month would have be have been prior to June 15. I think that takes us back to the June 9 date the family was throwing out to LE in the beginning.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmoThanks for finding this, Des! I was looking for it the other day - I had a brilliant thought about it and now I can't remember what that thought was! LOL. Anyway, on another board, I believe people thought this was written by Cindy to Casey either late on July 14 or early on July 15. The timing had to do with the news articles you referenced about Anheiser-Busch being bought, and also George's work schedule. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

July 15 last year was on a Tuesday. June 15 was on a Sunday. So, if Cindy was going by 4 weeks=a month, then July 13 would have been 4 weeks. (just throwing this out there for discussion).

[SoggyBayou]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

I wanted to add this to the time line, but it is not dated and I had no idea where to add it.

page 1 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/11.pdf

Unallocated Space

The following is what appears to be fragments of yahoo web mail and an email recovered from unallocated space.

Scroll down to page 2:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I don't know who or what to believe anymore.  You've told me everyday that you were going to call   me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on?  I've  tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of  Caylee or gotten to speak to her.  It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch  is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme  parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them?  I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre

The author is not identified in LE's report. IMO, the author is Cindy.

According to Cindy's interview with LE on 8/04 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf - page 17, Cindy found out Casey was in J'ville on July 3 and had been all week. Cindy told LE Casey was supposed to come home on July 12. Casey had excuses through the 14th.

A little google search for "anheuser busch being sold" brought up numerous articles dated July 14, 2008. The oldest articles I could find were dated June 11, 2008.

Because Cindy wrote Are you still with Jeff? the email was wrote sometime between July 3 - July 15.

I am confused by, It's been over a month now. Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15. Over a month would have be have been prior to June 15. I think that takes us back to the June 9 date the family was throwing out to LE in the beginning.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmo

I think it's Cindy.
I googled "&nbsp".
The &nbsp shows up where the extra spaces are.
Remember our soda pop poster. Typed the exact same way.
IMO

[gaelicpeas]

Also, didn't George start a new job around July 14 or 15?

[Sun]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

I wanted to add this to the time line, but it is not dated and I had no idea where to add it. I'm going to guess that it was written late on July 14th or on July 15th.page 1 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/11.pdf

Unallocated Space

The following is what appears to be fragments of yahoo web mail and an email recovered from unallocated space.

Scroll down to page 2:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I recall George telling LE/FBI that he worked all day July 14th (and that is why he didn't pick up the certified letter that day). I don't know who or what to believe anymore.  You've told me everyday that you were going to call   me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on?  I've  tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of  Caylee or gotten to speak to her.  It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch  is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme  parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them?  I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre

The author is not identified in LE's report. IMO, the author is Cindy.

According to Cindy's interview with LE on 8/04 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf - page 17, Cindy found out Casey was in J'ville on July 3 and had been all week. Cindy told LE Casey was supposed to come home on July 12. Casey had excuses through the 14th.

A little google search for "anheuser busch being sold" brought up numerous articles dated July 14, 2008. The oldest articles I could find were dated June 11, 2008.

Because Cindy wrote Are you still with Jeff? the email was wrote sometime between July 3 - July 15.

I am confused by, It's been over a month now. Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15. Over a month would have be have been prior to June 15. I think that takes us back to the June 9 date the family was throwing out to LE in the beginning.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmo

Red are my comments.

[gaelicpeas]

I think this was written in the middle of the night also - either late July 14, or early July 15. My guess is that Cindy noticed someone had been in the house during the day on July 14 - she apparently asked/accused George, and he said he had been at work all day. JMO.

[gaelicpeas]

Did any of Cindy's co-workers mention this breakdown she supposedly had at work? I don't recall reading anything about it in their interviews...

[desmom]

I was going thru some old files and found this link that I thought some of you might want to review. I found some new things that I either did not remember or remembered them a little differently...

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/casey-cindy-and-georgelies-part-1-2-of-4/

Julie


Thanks! :seeya:

I know I listened to George's interview, but I must have missed this part:

Part One: Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case
clock: 2:15

George: I don't know if my wife told you but Blanchard Park in Orlando is something else came up. Supposedly this is a scenario that Jesse held my daughter down when someone grabbed my granddaughter. Blanchard Park comes up again. I don't know. I don't know. Do I want to go out there and look and watch? Sure. Then this Zenaida thing came up (inaudible) supposedly Zenaida was there with Casey and Caylee. Zenaida held my daughter down and her sister Samantha took her and left with her.

Was Jesse a slip of the tongue or are these 2 different scenarios? :eek:

[Julie Dupree]

Thanks! :seeya:

I know I listened to George's interview, but I must have missed this part:

Part One: Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case
clock: 2:15

George: I don't know if my wife told you but Blanchard Park in Orlando is something else came up. Supposedly this is a scenario that Jesse held my daughter down when someone grabbed my granddaughter. Blanchard Park comes up again. I don't know. I don't know. Do I want to go out there and look and watch? Sure. Then this Zenaida thing came up (inaudible) supposedly Zenaida was there with Casey and Caylee. Zenaida held my daughter down and her sister Samantha took her and left with her.

Was Jesse a slip of the tongue or are these 2 different scenarios? :eek:

I replayed that 3 times and was still not sure I heard him say Jesse...thanks for "helping me hear that more clearly".
Julie

[Sun]

Thanks! :seeya:

I know I listened to George's interview, but I must have missed this part:

Part One: Clips from the Casey & Caylee Anthony Case
clock: 2:15

George: I don't know if my wife told you but Blanchard Park in Orlando is something else came up. Supposedly this is a scenario that Jesse held my daughter down when someone grabbed my granddaughter. Blanchard Park comes up again. I don't know. I don't know. Do I want to go out there and look and watch? Sure. Then this Zenaida thing came up (inaudible) supposedly Zenaida was there with Casey and Caylee. Zenaida held my daughter down and her sister Samantha took her and left with her.

Was Jesse a slip of the tongue or are these 2 different scenarios? :eek:

"came up" "supposedly" "I don't know" "came up" supposedly" .....seems to me that George has heard all of this from Cindy, but maybe doesn't believe any of it. There is no doubt in my mind that Cindy and George wanted to redirect suspicion onto Jesse from Casey, for Caylee's death.

[desmom]

I replayed that 3 times and was still not sure I heard him say Jesse...thanks for "helping me hear that more clearly".
Julie

Yipes, maybe I am hearing things. It sure does sound like he is saying Jesse.

Anyone else? TIA

[Julie Dupree]

Do I remember hearing George say he did not know about Blanchard Park??? or am I dreaming again????
Julie

[Julie Dupree]

I have to go play grandma....see you later
Julie

[desmom]

Do I remember hearing George say he did not know about Blanchard Park??? or am I dreaming again????
Julie

pages 48 - 49 The videotaped deposition of George Anthony
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/04/09/g.anthony.depo.pdf

BY MR. MITNIK:

Q What do you know about your daughter changing the story of Zenaida Gonzalez being dropped off at Sawgrass to being kidnapped at Blanchard Park?

A I have no knowledge about that.

Q None?

A None.

Q Did you ever talk to your daughter about it?

A No, I have not.

Q Have you heard that there's a different story?

A I've heard a lot of stories, sir.

Q Have you heard that that particular one changed from she voluntarily dropped her -- your granddaughter off with Zenaida Gonzalez at Sawgrass and then changed the story to Zenaida Gonzalez took her from her, kidnapped her from her at Blanchard Park? Have you heard of that change in your daughter's story?

A Have not.

Q So that's news you're hearing for the first time here today?

A Yeah, yes.

[DoubleFelix]

pages 48 - 49 The videotaped deposition of George Anthony
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/04/09/g.anthony.depo.pdf

BY MR. MITNIK:

Q What do you know about your daughter changing the story of Zenaida Gonzalez being dropped off at Sawgrass to being kidnapped at Blanchard Park?

A I have no knowledge about that.

Q None?

A None.

Q Did you ever talk to your daughter about it?

A No, I have not.

Q Have you heard that there's a different story?

A I've heard a lot of stories, sir.

Q Have you heard that that particular one changed from she voluntarily dropped her -- your granddaughter off with Zenaida Gonzalez at Sawgrass and then changed the story to Zenaida Gonzalez took her from her, kidnapped her from her at Blanchard Park? Have you heard of that change in your daughter's story?

A Have not.

Q So that's news you're hearing for the first time here today?

A Yeah, yes.

Sounds like George didn't study the transcripts like Cindy did. . .

[kingfish]

SNIPPED

I think its highly possible, Des.

Bear with me, as I can't think of all the facts, but, didn't someone, like Lee, make statements, oh, its coming to me now, lol. Lee told TonE while he was wearing the wiretap that the 'fight' was about Cindy being upset that Casey was out partying and not coming home.

This 'fight' had to have happened prior to the Father's Day fight.

Here G is saying that they moved out of the house on June 9th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related

[101Spots]

IA...I don't think she had a major credit card on her...just Penny's and maybe Target???

Let me ask you this...what Credit Card did KC use to secure the flights for her friends to PR...I believe she booked them online and then supposedly they reimbursed her??? How did she do that???

I believe this rumor was disproven. Each of the friends booked their own flights, so no Casey credit card involved. Check the text messages for verification.

[101Spots]

Here G is saying that they moved out of the house on June 9th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related

Another Georgism: Our house has all the comforbility Caylee would need.

[desmom]

Here G is saying that they moved out of the house on June 9th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related

Thank you for the link. I have never seen that video.

:seeya:

[gaelicpeas]

That's what I thought when I read it.

Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between.


She's accusing KC of coming home when they are not there.

Would this have been before the tow notice???? Can't keep the damn dates straight.This has to be after they got the tow notice. I know they had the tow notice by at least July 13.. and then George couldn't get the registered letter on July 14 because he had to work all day. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

I'm sure it was fictitious like her suicide notes to one up Georgie.
:biggrin:
Well, you could be right!

[Sun]

Does anyone know for certain what was George's first day on the job, the job that he said he went to on July 14th. Was July 14th his first day? I've looked and looked, and all I can find is that George is very, very evasive about his jobs, and what hours/days that he actually worked.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, So when casey left the house she told c and g she was moving out. Where in the world did g and c think she was moving to? casey did not have an apt or a house to move into. why let her leave with Caylee with no place to live. I would not have let casey leave that house with Caylee with no place to live. Were they going to live in the car? I am sure Caylee did not want to go with casey because this had been her home for 2 1/2 years or closer to 3 years. A child does not want to leave where all their stuff is. I am sure Caylee was crying to stay with c and g. Maybe that is what is wrong with c and g they know they did not do the right thing. I am sure they both said things to casey that they do not want us to know and casey may have told them she will tell it all if they don;t back her in this case.I really think the whole family has a prob.with spending to much money. Now c and g knows they can;t bring Caylee back and they or in it for the money now.no more working for c and g. All they want to do is get casey out so she will keep her mouth shut. I still think there is a lot of stuff the an;s dont want anyone to know that went on in that house.jmho

[gaelicpeas]

Does anyone know for certain what was George's first day on the job, the job that he said he went to on July 14th. Was July 14th his first day? I've looked and looked, and all I can find is that George is very, very evasive about his jobs, and what hours/days that he actually worked.I was pretty sure that July 14 was his first day back on the job, but I could be wrong.

[gaelicpeas]

Good morning everyone, So when casey left the house she told c and g she was moving out. Where in the world did g and c think she was moving to? casey did not have an apt or a house to move into. why let her leave with Caylee with no place to live. I would not have let casey leave that house with Caylee with no place to live. Were they going to live in the car? I am sure Caylee did not want to go with casey because this had been her home for 2 1/2 years or closer to 3 years. A child does not want to leave where all their stuff is. I am sure Caylee was crying to stay with c and g. Maybe that is what is wrong with c and g they know they did not do the right thing. I am sure they both said things to casey that they do not want us to know and casey may have told them she will tell it all if they don;t back her in this case.I really think the whole family has a prob.with spending to much money. Now c and g knows they can;t bring Caylee back and they or in it for the money now.no more working for c and g. All they want to do is get casey out so she will keep her mouth shut. I still think there is a lot of stuff the an;s dont want anyone to know that went on in that house.jmhoInteresting thoughts about the family secrets, Martha. This new death penalty qualified lawyer, Andrea Lyons - apparently in her past cases she really digs into the home environment, so maybe some of these secrets will come out during trial (or during the penalty phase). JMO

[5boxersmom]

Good morning everyone, So when casey left the house she told c and g she was moving out. Where in the world did g and c think she was moving to? casey did not have an apt or a house to move into. why let her leave with Caylee with no place to live. I would not have let casey leave that house with Caylee with no place to live. Were they going to live in the car? I am sure Caylee did not want to go with casey because this had been her home for 2 1/2 years or closer to 3 years. A child does not want to leave where all their stuff is. I am sure Caylee was crying to stay with c and g. Maybe that is what is wrong with c and g they know they did not do the right thing. I am sure they both said things to casey that they do not want us to know and casey may have told them she will tell it all if they don;t back her in this case.I really think the whole family has a prob.with spending to much money. Now c and g knows they can;t bring Caylee back and they or in it for the money now.no more working for c and g. All they want to do is get casey out so she will keep her mouth shut. I still think there is a lot of stuff the an;s dont want anyone to know that went on in that house.jmho


Oh yeah. Cindy's first story was they went on Vaca to bond. :rolleyes:

I wonder what the real story will be when they are under oath?

ITA about the secrets.

jmo

[Sun]

George is evasive about his work record because like his daughter...he seldom has one...LOL

That's kind of what I think too! I would be very interested to know more about which days/hours he actually did in June and July. I don't think that he wants Cindy to know.

[Sun]

Interesting thoughts about the family secrets, Martha. This new death penalty qualified lawyer, Andrea Lyons - apparently in her past cases she really digs into the home environment, so maybe some of these secrets will come out during trial (or during the penalty phase). JMO

Lyon is going to need more that a year to do her work in this case, if she's planning on digging into the home environment. She's going to have to sort out fact from lies, and there sure are a lot of lies in the Anthonys' past. I can see Cindy getting riled up, if she believes that her parenting skills are going to be put on trial.

[really3997]

George is evasive about his work record because like his daughter...he seldom has one...LOL

I think his job was washing the cars and taken care of the yard jmo

[frances1]

Oh yeah. Cindy's first story was they went on Vaca to bond. :rolleyes:

I wonder what the real story will be when they are under oath?

ITA about the secrets.

jmo

I think 'going on vacation to bond' is Cindyspeak for 'I want you to have complete and total responsibility for Caylee's care', but she would never admit that now.

[summer4meplz]

Oh yeah. Cindy's first story was they went on Vaca to bond. :rolleyes:

I wonder what the real story will be when they are under oath?

ITA about the secrets.

jmo

personally I don't think it matters to them whether they are under oath or not.....

good morning everyone......

[Sun]

I think 'going on vacation to bond' is Cindyspeak for 'I want you to have complete and total responsibility for Caylee's care', but she would never admit that now.

Both George and Cindy mention "bonding" to LE/FBI, and that just makes me think that Casey may have felt like Caylee was more of a "possession" and may not have had feelings/love like a normal mother would feel for her child. I wonder just how many times Casey yelled at Cindy, "SHE IS MY CHILD."

[Sun]

I think his job was washing the cars and taken care of the yard jmo

Not really much yard there to take care of. And, Cindy has said that she did weeding in the front yard, and I recall her trying to do that one time when the media were camped out there. ....George was likely given the task of mowing the grass and trimming.

Yes, we know that George likes to use the water hose. lol

[5boxersmom]

personally I don't think it matters to them whether they are under oath or not.....

good morning everyone......

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

[5boxersmom]

I think 'going on vacation to bond' is Cindyspeak for 'I want you to have complete and total responsibility for Caylee's care', but she would never admit that now.

Probably. Makes it sound better doesn't it.
jmo

[101Spots]

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

Sticky spaghetti?
Whichever day of the week they testify?
According to the ambient temperature in Billings, Montana on that day?
By the alignment of the planets?
Random selection by computer?

:shrug:

[cassidy]

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

Whichever one George can keep straight?

[gaelicpeas]

George is evasive about his work record because like his daughter...he seldom has one...LOLOkay, I have been re-reading George's 7-24 interview with YM and JA. George states that his last day with Security Forces is June 30. I will keep reading to find out when his first day with Andrews International is.

It's on line 13:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608georgeanthony/1/lg/48-2008-CF-015606-O_CASEY_ANTHONY_PG._1733-1803_Page_36.htm

[gaelicpeas]

Lyon is going to need more that a year to do her work in this case, if she's planning on digging into the home environment. She's going to have to sort out fact from lies, and there sure are a lot of lies in the Anthonys' past. I can see Cindy getting riled up, if she believes that her parenting skills are going to be put on trial.I agree - it will not be pretty.

[Sun]

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

I have a feeling that when this finally gets to trial, George will not be able to remember much of anything. I believe that George's reluctance to tell the truth and the whole truth on the witness stand will leave the Jury with an impression. And, not the one that George wants, either.

[Sun]

Okay, I have been re-reading George's 7-24 interview with YM and JA. George states that his last day with Security Forces is June 30. I will keep reading to find out when his first day with Andrews International is.

It's on line 13:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/110608georgeanthony/1/lg/48-2008-CF-015606-O_CASEY_ANTHONY_PG._1733-1803_Page_36.htm

Yes, I read that too.... however George really didn't say if he was fired, or if he quit, or just how many days he worked towards the end of his employment. (we don't know if he used up any vacation/sick days, or if he had any to use).

George's Ipass records may show travel to and from his new job, iirc... I need to find those to see if they do.

[trich]

Good morning everyone, So when casey left the house she told c and g she was moving out. Where in the world did g and c think she was moving to? casey did not have an apt or a house to move into. why let her leave with Caylee with no place to live. I would not have let casey leave that house with Caylee with no place to live. Were they going to live in the car? I am sure Caylee did not want to go with casey because this had been her home for 2 1/2 years or closer to 3 years. A child does not want to leave where all their stuff is. I am sure Caylee was crying to stay with c and g. Maybe that is what is wrong with c and g they know they did not do the right thing. I am sure they both said things to casey that they do not want us to know and casey may have told them she will tell it all if they don;t back her in this case.I really think the whole family has a prob.with spending to much money. Now c and g knows they can;t bring Caylee back and they or in it for the money now.no more working for c and g. All they want to do is get casey out so she will keep her mouth shut. I still think there is a lot of stuff the an;s dont want anyone to know that went on in that house.jmho

I can't see Casey keeping her mouth shut about the rest of her family or anytone else,especially if it will help her ..now if it is more proof of her guilt well yes then she will not talk.
Casey is not loyal to anyone but herself.

[Sun]

Sticky spaghetti?
Whichever day of the week they testify?
According to the ambient temperature in Billings, Montana on that day?
By the alignment of the planets?
Random selection by computer?

:shrug:

Will George's testimony (especially his fake emotions during it) give the jury members an uncomfortable feeling? I know that when I listed to his in the court hearing last month, I felt a bit uncomfortable. It was like I was watching a performance as George "read" from a piece of paper. A statement that I didn't believe was written by him.

[adair]

Here G is saying that they moved out of the house on June 9th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related


Hello everyone...still catching up.

Wow Great Find.....Why This Video interview is really interesting...why on Earth did G not correct the person from fox? If kc & caylee had MOVED OUT dontcha think that they would have taken clothes...hairbrush, tooth brush...etc..not to mention furniture, atleast for Caylee. Unless Caylee didnt need any of those things because she was no longer alive????

jmo

I hope the pros plays that one at her trial......after G lies his arse off on the stand......jmo

[Pam1569]

I think his job was washing the cars and taken care of the yard jmo

Hi really, I was re listening to the FBI interview with George this week and found these 2 things interesting.

George Anthony FBI interview on 7/31/08
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfkFzMkFqdA
@2:50 (George starts smiling)
There's a game I didn't even play it until about 6 months ago. (discussing the beer pong)
Maybe George's was throwing parties at the house for OC. jmo

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3ex6v1Fa8&feature=related
@5:01
I mean she tried to conceal that from us for a month or two and stuff. I mean you could see something was obvious even her brother one day, she picked her brother up at the airport and the first thing he said is ok when you expecting just to get a reaction from her and she said I am just bloated up or putting on some weight. He knew, he knew something was going on. Finally we just said listen What's going on and finally she opened up to us and it took...(FBI asked did she bring it to you guys or did you bring it to her?) We basically brought it to her, because matter of fact my wife really had some long conversations with her and then they pulled me aside. You know they sat me down on our couch and said listen your going to be a grandfather, I cried, and the first thing I wanted to know how far along are you, how you feel, what's going on etc. (She tells them it is Jesse's baby, months go by and they still haven't met Jesse. The first time they meet Jesse is at the hospital for the delivery.) underlined is my words. Bolding above means to me they new of the pregnancy withing the first trimester. jmo

[adair]

Does anyone know for certain what was George's first day on the job, the job that he said he went to on July 14th. Was July 14th his first day? I've looked and looked, and all I can find is that George is very, very evasive about his jobs, and what hours/days that he actually worked.


Is this where kc learned it? jmo

[imc_e]

Kingfish

Thanks for the link to that clip, I don't recall seeing it before.

Its ODD that he mentions them moving out previous to Fathers Day.

Thats very interesting.

The Anthonys tell so many lies its simply mental. imo

[5boxersmom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related


I can't believe Cindy let Georgette do this interview!!!!

Wonder what the date of this video was???

I think I can hear Cindy in the background. :biggrin:

This could have played out so differently. They could have had so much support.

I did notice he talks about Caylee in the past tense. :sad:

jmo

[Lavinia]

G'morning, everyone!!

I keep all my receipts in my purse till I clean it out, lol.

No real reason. Just a habit to stick them in there. If I purchase something that I may need to return later, such as clothes, I will put the receipt in the bag along with the merchandise.

Same here slayer! I KNOW the first minute I throw away a receipt, I will need it.

[Pam1569]

Also I found this on Cindy's interview with the FBI.

Cindy FBI taped interview (7/30/08)

Part 3 7:29 on clock
If it happened by someone else hands I don't think she be protecting them. In my heart I know she wouldn't be protecting them. If something happened that was an accident I think she be you know coming out and say it was an accident I couldn't vouch for them blah blah blah and she wouldn't be putting the family and everybody through this um so (end of video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLfadINx4d8&NR=1

Now imo she is actually saying to the FBI, in a normal Anthony way, that her daughter is guilty.

[Sun]

Hi really, I was re listening to the FBI interview with George this week and found these 2 things interesting.

George Anthony FBI interview on 7/31/08
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfkFzMkFqdA
@2:50 (George starts smiling)
There's a game I didn't even play it until about 6 months ago. (discussing the beer pong)
Maybe George's was throwing parties at the house for OC. jmo

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3ex6v1Fa8&feature=related
@5:01
I mean she tried to conceal that from us for a month or two and stuff. I mean you could see something was obvious even her brother one day, she picked her brother up at the airport and the first thing he said is ok when you expecting just to get a reaction from her and she said I am just bloated up or putting on some weight. He knew, he knew something was going on. Finally we just said listen What's going on and finally she opened up to us and it took...(FBI asked did she bring it to you guys or did you bring it to her?) We basically brought it to her, because matter of fact my wife really had some long conversations with her and then they pulled me aside. You know they sat me down on our couch and said listen your going to be a grandfather, I cried, and the first thing I wanted to know how far along are you, how you feel, what's going on etc. (She tells them it is Jesse's baby, months go by and they still haven't met Jesse. The first time they meet Jesse is at the hospital for the delivery.) underlined is my words. Bolding above means to me they new of the pregnancy withing the first trimester. jmo

desmom, you don't recall where I could find the page in the discovery that shows all the previous 911 calls in regards to the Anthony residence, do you? I recall approx 4 calls, maybe in the April/May months, but can't remember if they were in 2005 (before Caylee's birth) or 2006.

[gaelicpeas]

Yes, I read that too.... however George really didn't say if he was fired, or if he quit, or just how many days he worked towards the end of his employment. (we don't know if he used up any vacation/sick days, or if he had any to use).

George's Ipass records may show travel to and from his new job, iirc... I need to find those to see if they do.Okay, I just finished that interview and he doesn't mention anything about when he started at Andrews International - just that his last day with Security Forces was June 30.

I know somewhere there is a reference to George not being able to pick up the registered letter from the towyard on July 14 because it was his first day at work. However, that interview I just finished wore me out, so I need a break! BB in a bit...

[gaelicpeas]

Yes, I read that too.... however George really didn't say if he was fired, or if he quit, or just how many days he worked towards the end of his employment. (we don't know if he used up any vacation/sick days, or if he had any to use).

George's Ipass records may show travel to and from his new job, iirc... I need to find those to see if they do.In that 7-24 interview with LE, he said that on 6-24 he was offered a job with Andrews International, and that he gave notice to Security Forces on that same day (6-24), and that his last day with Security Forces was on 6-30. It just doesn't say when he actually began working at Andrews International.

[seeing_eye]

I think it's Cindy.
I googled "&nbsp".
The &nbsp shows up where the extra spaces are.
Remember our soda pop poster. Typed the exact same way.
IMO

Those are html code so I opened the quote in a browser. Here is the way it is displayed:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I don't know who or what to believe anymore. You've told me everyday that you were going to call me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on? I've tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of Caylee or gotten to speak to her. It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them? I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre...."

The spaces appear between words. I believe the "soda pops" had the spaces before punctuation marks, especially commas , like this. I always felt the "sodas" were not Cindy, but rather someone who parroted her, possibly a close friend like Mallory.

[Sun]

In that 7-24 interview with LE, he said that on 6-24 he was offered a job with Andrews International, and that he gave notice to Security Forces on that same day (6-24), and that his last day with Security Forces was on 6-30. It just doesn't say when he actually began working at Andrews International.

George sure was a busy fellow on June 24th, according to him. Wasn't that the day that he reported the theft of his gas cans? Wasn't that the day that he got them back from Casey? Wasn't that the day that he met Cindy at her bank to deposit their stimulas check? And, he's also saying that was the same day that he was offered a job, and quit his old job? ....somehow, I think George is lying about some of this. JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

the way they decide which story to go with is they just open their mouths and wait to hear what comes out

imo

[really3997]

Also I found this on Cindy's interview with the FBI.

Cindy FBI taped interview (7/30/08)

Part 3 7:29 on clock
If it happened by someone else hands I don't think she be protecting them. In my heart I know she wouldn't be protecting them. If something happened that was an accident I think she be you know coming out and say it was an accident I couldn't vouch for them blah blah blah and she wouldn't be putting the family and everybody through this um so (end of video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLfadINx4d8&NR=1

Now imo she is actually saying to the FBI, in a normal Anthony way, that her daughter is guilty.


Yepper that is what I got out of this horrid 7 + minutes of listening to this babble. If it was accident by Casey she would have said something and if it was an accident at someone elses hands Casey would have said something....Leaves Murder to me.... jmo.. now I have to take a break and take a pill. Life is too short to listen to Cindy and Casey the perfect moms barf

[desmom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8Z2L8KN-I&feature=related


I can't believe Cindy let Georgette do this interview!!!!

Wonder what the date of this video was???


July 19, 2008. The date it was downloaded is to the right of the video under the poster's name. jmo

[desmom]

desmom, you don't recall where I could find the page in the discovery that shows all the previous 911 calls in regards to the Anthony residence, do you? I recall approx 4 calls, maybe in the April/May months, but can't remember if they were in 2005 (before Caylee's birth) or 2006.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1474095/Calls-for-Service-to-4937-Hopespring-Drive

[seeing_eye]

But how will they decide which story to go with? :biggrin:

jmo

I don't think they ever decide before hand what story to go with. They just go with whatever pops into their minds at any given moment -- no matter how ridiculous it makes them look. I base my opinion on their past actions and statements.

[gaelicpeas]

George sure was a busy fellow on June 24th, according to him. Wasn't that the day that he reported the theft of his gas cans? Wasn't that the day that he got them back from Casey? Wasn't that the day that he met Cindy at her bank to deposit their stimulas check? And, he's also saying that was the same day that he was offered a job, and quit his old job? ....somehow, I think George is lying about some of this. JMOlol... well they spent PAGES during that interview trying to get him to figure out which day Cindy called him about the gate being open and the pool ladder on the pool. He seems fixated on the 24th.

Also, I THINK he says in that interview that he also saw Casey on another day besides June 24. But he talks in circles and goes off on tangents much like the rest of his family. It is really hard to follow him, IMO.

[Julie Dupree]

pages 48 - 49 The videotaped deposition of George Anthony
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/04/09/g.anthony.depo.pdf

BY MR. MITNIK:

Q What do you know about your daughter changing the story of Zenaida Gonzalez being dropped off at Sawgrass to being kidnapped at Blanchard Park?

A I have no knowledge about that.

Q None?

A None.

Q Did you ever talk to your daughter about it?

A No, I have not.

Q Have you heard that there's a different story?

A I've heard a lot of stories, sir.

Q Have you heard that that particular one changed from she voluntarily dropped her -- your granddaughter off with Zenaida Gonzalez at Sawgrass and then changed the story to Zenaida Gonzalez took her from her, kidnapped her from her at Blanchard Park? Have you heard of that change in your daughter's story?

A Have not.

Q So that's news you're hearing for the first time here today?

A Yeah, yes.

Thanks so much for finding this for me desmom...I really do appreciate your help.
Julie

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Pam1569
Hi really, I was re listening to the FBI interview with George this week and found these 2 things interesting.

George Anthony FBI interview on 7/31/08
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfkFzMkFqdA
@2:50 (George starts smiling)
There's a game I didn't even play it until about 6 months ago. (discussing the beer pong)
Maybe George's was throwing parties at the house for OC. jmo

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3ex...eature=related
@5:01
I mean she tried to conceal that from us for a month or two and stuff. I mean you could see something was obvious even her brother one day, she picked her brother up at the airport and the first thing he said is ok when you expecting just to get a reaction from her and she said I am just bloated up or putting on some weight. He knew, he knew something was going on. Finally we just said listen What's going on and finally she opened up to us and it took...(FBI asked did she bring it to you guys or did you bring it to her?) We basically brought it to her, because matter of fact my wife really had some long conversations with her and then they pulled me aside. You know they sat me down on our couch and said listen your going to be a grandfather, I cried, and the first thing I wanted to know how far along are you, how you feel, what's going on etc. (She tells them it is Jesse's baby, months go by and they still haven't met Jesse. The first time they meet Jesse is at the hospital for the delivery.) underlined is my words. Bolding above means to me they new of the pregnancy withing the first trimester. jmo
Two 911 calls on 4/21/2005 for a Verbal Disturbance (months before Caylee's birth)

One 911 call on 4/30/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

One 911 call on 5/29/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

So, months before Caylee was born in Aug 2005, this is what was happening in the Anthony home. Cindy, George, Lee and Casey all lived at that residence at the time. And, if my memory is correct, they attended a wedding in June 2005.

[gaelicpeas]

Does anyone else think that it is sort of odd that George is job-hunting during the time Caylee was "missing"?

[Sun]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1474095/Calls-for-Service-to-4937-Hopespring-Drive

Thank you so much desmom!!!!! I take horrible advantage of your expert ability to find things. Please tell me to stop it, or just ignore me if it's too much.

It's just that official records (rather than words/stories from the mouths of the Anthonys), can sometimes give a much clearer picture.

[Sun]

Does anyone else think that it is sort of odd that George is job-hunting during the time Caylee was "missing"?

I am very suspicious of this. Would love to see records from both jobs. Would love to see if George really resigned, or if he was fired. (can't depend on George to tell the truth about this). And, Cindy was clearly inclined to not talk about it in the LE/FBI interviews.

[desmom]

Two 911 calls on 4/21/2005 for a Verbal Disturbance (months before Caylee's birth)

One 911 call on 4/30/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

One 911 call on 5/29/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

So, months before Caylee was born in Aug 2005, this is what was happening in the Anthony home. Cindy, George, Lee and Casey all lived at that residence at the time. And, if my memory is correct, they attended a wedding in June 2005.

Good memory on the wedding. From posts Cindy's brother Rick posted on the internet: page 50 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817318/Caylee-Anthony-Case-November-26th-2008-Documents

I got married June 4, 2005. We got married on the beach in Myrtle Beach. It was just to be a small ceremony. I invited my mom and dad and Cindy and George. Cindy arrived the day before the wedding with Casey.....

[Sun]

Good memory on the wedding. From posts Cindy's brother Rick posted on the internet: page 50 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2817318/Caylee-Anthony-Case-November-26th-2008-Documents

I got married June 4, 2005. We got married on the beach in Myrtle Beach. It was just to be a small ceremony. I invited my mom and dad and Cindy and George. Cindy arrived the day before the wedding with Casey.....

You don't suppose that Cindy and George took Casey with them to the wedding, because they couldn't trust Casey home with Lee? Didn't want more cops called for a Loud Party or Disorderly Person? Casey was a year out of School, but supposedly was working at Universal during that time.

[desmom]

You don't suppose that Cindy and George took Casey with them to the wedding, because they couldn't trust Casey home with Lee? Didn't want more cops called for a Loud Party or Disorderly Person? Casey was a year out of School, but supposedly was working at Universal during that time.

Or Casey threw a fit because she wanted to go to Myrtle Beach. :tonguewag:

[5boxersmom]

Two 911 calls on 4/21/2005 for a Verbal Disturbance (months before Caylee's birth)

One 911 call on 4/30/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

One 911 call on 5/29/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

So, months before Caylee was born in Aug 2005, this is what was happening in the Anthony home. Cindy, George, Lee and Casey all lived at that residence at the time. And, if my memory is correct, they attended a wedding in June 2005.

Hmm. I don't remember the 911 calls being for a loud party. I do remember a picture of Casey and friends with George in the background.

jmo

[Lavinia]

Two 911 calls on 4/21/2005 for a Verbal Disturbance (months before Caylee's birth)

One 911 call on 4/30/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

One 911 call on 5/29/2005 for a Loud Party, Disorderly Person

So, months before Caylee was born in Aug 2005, this is what was happening in the Anthony home. Cindy, George, Lee and Casey all lived at that residence at the time. And, if my memory is correct, they attended a wedding in June 2005.

I don't remember the date but remember when Fire and rescue was called to the house sometime before this time period. I always wondered WTH that was about.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1474095/...pespring-Drive

Here is the official record of the 911 calls. Desmom found it for me.

[pixiejoolz]

I don't remember the date but remember when Fire and rescue was called to the house sometime before this time period. I always wondered WTH that was about.

Can anyone tell from the records if the calls were made by the Anthonys or by neighbors?

Hi Lavinia, like my new dress? :biggrin:

[Sun]

Or Casey threw a fit because she wanted to go to Myrtle Beach. :tonguewag:

That's a possibility. I can't think like Casey does.

A normal 19yr old, living under her parents' roof, might rather enjoy parents going away for a couple of days. Especially if she could have a party without her parents being there. But it's hard for me to say how Casey would feel.

[5boxersmom]

Originally Posted by desmom
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1474095/...pespring-Drive

Here is the official record of the 911 calls. Desmom found it for me.

Very interesting. So did they call and report a loud party or was a party going on at their house?

jmo

[Sun]

Very interesting. So did they call and report a loud party or was a party going on at their house?

jmo

I can't tell from that report just "who" made the 911 calls, however the Anthony residence is where the officers were dispatched to.

[gaelicpeas]

I am very suspicious of this. Would love to see records from both jobs. Would love to see if George really resigned, or if he was fired. (can't depend on George to tell the truth about this). And, Cindy was clearly inclined to not talk about it in the LE/FBI interviews.I agree that we can't depend on anything the whole family says.

I know there were some job records for George somewhere in the documents, but I believe they covered the period in March when the computer searches were done.

[djmsmom]

:I think it's Cindy.
I googled "&nbsp".
The &nbsp shows up where the extra spaces are.
Remember our soda pop poster. Typed the exact same way.
IMO

:lol::lol::lol:

[gaelicpeas]

This whole story is so fishy.

First, Casey is texting both TonE and Amy around June 10 or so that her parents will be moving out and that she will have the house on June 13... and tells TonE he can come over on June 14.

Meanwhile, she is telling Amy that her parents are getting a divorce and that her mom is buying a townhouse up near Mt Dora and giving her the house.

Then, Casey disappears with Caylee either June 15 or 16. I know people have speculated that there was a fight between Cindy and Casey on June 15 because of the money Casey stole from her grandparents - but I always wondered if the fight was because Cindy decided to stay in the house and not give it to Casey.

Then, at some point George is interviewing for a job at Andrews International because he says that they called him on June 24 to offer him a job. Presumably they didn't just call him out of the blue - he had to have contacted them prior.

Meanwhile, there is limited contact between Cindy and Casey during the week of June 16-20. In fact, it appears that Cindy is not returning Casey's calls.

Then, George's last day at his old job is June 30 (also the day the car was towed), and I think his first day at Andrews was July 14. So, I guess he decided to take 2 weeks off. Cindy also takes the first week of July for vacation. They apparently do a lot of yardwork that week. And, on July 3, which is a Thursday, Cindy appears to start to panic about what is going on with Casey and Caylee. That is the day of her trip to Universal, her myspace page, and the evening she sent Lee downtown looking for Casey. And then there doesn't seem to be much of an effort to find Casey between July 3 and July 15, when they finally picked up the registered letter from the towyard.

Sorry, just mulling these times over in my head - it is so odd to me, the whole thing. JMO

[onlykaty]

Thanks to all that responded. I just can't seem to grasp everything that Casey said or did was all about Casey.

I wanted to add this to the time line, but it is not dated and I had no idea where to add it.

page 1 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/11.pdf

Unallocated Space

The following is what appears to be fragments of yahoo web mail and an email recovered from unallocated space.

Scroll down to page 2:

"can't sleep, stupid hot flashes wake me up then I start thinking about you and Caylee. Dad said he went to work at 9am and he got home at 630p, he said he did not come home in between. I don't know who or what to believe anymore.  You've told me everyday that you were going to call   me and you haven't but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the he** is going on?  I've  tried not to buy you to death but I still haven't gotten to see pictures of  Caylee or gotten to speak to her.  It's been over a month now. Am I ever gong to see her again? Are you still with Jeff? Are you going back to work? I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch  is being bought by a foreign company that doesn't want the theme  parks only the beer part of the Co. What is that all about they're talking Disney or Universal may bet to buy the theme parks. I thought Universal already merged with them?  I'm not sure how much longer I can continue on this day to day course. I'm going freakin nuts not knowing whats going on with you. I had a breakdown at work, can't take much more stre

The author is not identified in LE's report. IMO, the author is Cindy.

According to Cindy's interview with LE on 8/04 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf - page 17, Cindy found out Casey was in J'ville on July 3 and had been all week. Cindy told LE Casey was supposed to come home on July 12. Casey had excuses through the 14th.

A little google search for "anheuser busch being sold" brought up numerous articles dated July 14, 2008. The oldest articles I could find were dated June 11, 2008.

Because Cindy wrote Are you still with Jeff? the email was wrote sometime between July 3 - July 15.

I am confused by, It's been over a month now. Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15. Over a month would have be have been prior to June 15. I think that takes us back to the June 9 date the family was throwing out to LE in the beginning.

Did Casey leave with Caylee on June 9 and then came home the next day or a couple of days later? Ricardo Morales told LE that Casey and Caylee spent the night June 9. When Lee asked Casey in one of their visits "is this like the last time" was he referring to June 9?

jmo


Thanks desmom for all the updates, I hadn't read or seen any of those text messages before. I am guessing those texts messages from everyone came after, I'm assuming Cindy sent the message to all Casey's friends, that Caylee was missing?

I'm sure that was Cindy too on that last one. I just can't figure out the June 9 date. Didn't they interview a nurse or aide at the nursing home for Casey's grandfather and wasn't it verified that Caylee was there on fathers day? Also talked to Casey's grandmother. So whats up with the 9th date? :confused:

sorry about that edited out Casey's name meant to type Caylee..I guess maybe I need to read it all over again..geezzzzz

[Julie Dupree]

This is so off the topic being discussed...but wanted to leave you with it to look at another time....how could Cindy not know Casey was pregnant???
Julie


http://media.photobucket.com/image/casey%20anthony/princesslucylulu/Caylee%20Anthony%20case/Anthony-Caseypregnant.jpg?o=134&sortby=sevendaysview

[trucrimegal]

I agree that we can't depend on anything the whole family says.

I know there were some job records for George somewhere in the documents, but I believe they covered the period in March when the computer searches were done.

This organization looks too reputable for George to work at:

http://www.andrewsinternational.com/

[Julie Dupree]

This organization looks too reputable for George to work at:

http://www.andrewsinternational.com/

Maybe that accounts for him not being there very long!!!
Julie

[onlykaty]

Good morning everyone, So when casey left the house she told c and g she was moving out. Where in the world did g and c think she was moving to? casey did not have an apt or a house to move into. why let her leave with Caylee with no place to live. I would not have let casey leave that house with Caylee with no place to live. Were they going to live in the car? I am sure Caylee did not want to go with casey because this had been her home for 2 1/2 years or closer to 3 years. A child does not want to leave where all their stuff is. I am sure Caylee was crying to stay with c and g. Maybe that is what is wrong with c and g they know they did not do the right thing. I am sure they both said things to casey that they do not want us to know and casey may have told them she will tell it all if they don;t back her in this case.I really think the whole family has a prob.with spending to much money. Now c and g knows they can;t bring Caylee back and they or in it for the money now.no more working for c and g. All they want to do is get casey out so she will keep her mouth shut. I still think there is a lot of stuff the an;s dont want anyone to know that went on in that house.jmho

I think so to. I think so much stuff went on that G & C feel like they have to cover for Casey now. Lots of guilt to go around in that family, its a shame that at least one of them can't own up to what Casey is.

[Sun]

Then, at some point George is interviewing for a job at Andrews International because he says that they called him on June 24 to offer him a job. Presumably they didn't just call him out of the blue - he had to have contacted them prior.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would "recruit" George, mostly due to what I believe is a very trouble work history/disability, etc. George maybe said that he had a very long recovery from knee replacement surgery...I think. A company just isn't going to be recruting someone of George's age, with this type of health record, I would guess. And, George had at that time, 3 outstanding Civil Cases filed against him by bank/CC companies.

[Lavinia]

Can anyone tell from the records if the calls were made by the Anthonys or by neighbors?

Hi Lavinia, like my new dress? :biggrin:

Loverly, honey! :wub: Quite flattering, lol.

The records I saw long ago about that incident, didn't differentiate as to who the caller was. I've just been popping in and out today but I'm sure someone has posted a link to it and I'll go look.

This is a good time to thank Desmom for all she does for us! :thumbsup:

[Julie Dupree]

I find it hard to believe that anyone would "recruit" George, mostly due to what I believe is a very trouble work history/disability, etc. George maybe said that he had a very long recovery from knee replacement surgery...I think. A company just isn't going to be recruting someone of George's age, with this type of health record, I would guess. And, George had at that time, 3 outstanding Civil Cases filed against him by bank/CC companies.

(My bolding)
I did not know this...was one of them by any chance BOA?
Julie

[Lavinia]

This is so off the topic being discussed...but wanted to leave you with it to look at another time....how could Cindy not know Casey was pregnant???
Julie


http://media.photobucket.com/image/casey%20anthony/princesslucylulu/Caylee%20Anthony%20case/Anthony-Caseypregnant.jpg?o=134&sortby=sevendaysview

Julie, that pic is THE pic that made my head absolutely spin off of my neck. Until I saw that pic, I was thinking, okay, maybe Casey is one of those RARE women who might look like they gained weight as opposed to being pregnant. Oh hell to the no! If this wasn't a stereotypical pg. belly, I don't know what is! This pic just absolutely blew my mind about those peeps.

[Sun]

(my bolding)
i did not know this...was one of them by any chance boa?
Julie

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[gaelicpeas]

I find it hard to believe that anyone would "recruit" George, mostly due to what I believe is a very trouble work history/disability, etc. George maybe said that he had a very long recovery from knee replacement surgery...I think. A company just isn't going to be recruting someone of George's age, with this type of health record, I would guess. And, George had at that time, 3 outstanding Civil Cases filed against him by bank/CC companies.I agree.... something is hinky here....

[gaelicpeas]

This family lies so much it is hard to know what to think.

At times, I think Casey was playing her parents against each other. For instance, in that 7-24 LE interview of George, he says that he and Cindy separated in late 2005 because of (my paraphrasing) "issues with Casey and money stuff". Then he goes on to say that he moved down near his parents and got a job because (again my paraphrasing) "I had to get out before something stupid manifests". I wonder if Casey was stealing money and George was getting blamed for it.

To me, that recovered email of Cindy's implies just that - that she had accused George of being in the house during the day and he denied it and now she "doesn't know who or what to believe". Maybe Cindy had threatened to leave because she thought George was sneaking in the house during the day, when in fact it was Casey.

And then other times, I think Cindy and Casey are conniving together to get rid of George. And then sometimes I think Casey and George are in this together! The whole thing makes my head spin...

[Julie Dupree]

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Thought if one of them happened to be BOA, maybe they would have a double interest in the check charge trial that is coming up....(I realize it probably will have nothing to do with it, but am still smiling thinking about it)
Julie

[enigma™]

This family lies so much it is hard to know what to think.

At times, I think Casey was playing her parents against each other. For instance, in that 7-24 LE interview of George, he says that he and Cindy separated in late 2005 because of (my paraphrasing) "issues with Casey and money stuff". Then he goes on to say that he moved down near his parents and got a job because (again my paraphrasing) "I had to get out before something stupid manifests". I wonder if Casey was stealing money and George was getting blamed for it.

To me, that recovered email of Cindy's implies just that - that she had accused George of being in the house during the day and he denied it and now she "doesn't know who or what to believe". Maybe Cindy had threatened to leave because she thought George was sneaking in the house during the day, when in fact it was Casey.

And then other times, I think Cindy and Casey are conniving together to get rid of George. And then sometimes I think Casey and George are in this together! The whole thing makes my head spin...


When you look at the house of Ant like that, no wonder they are all so dysfunctional. No one trusts anyone, or so it appears. Lay the blame elsewhere for something that might incriminate you. Cindy seems to be the paranoid one, accusatory and blaming others for perceived wrongs, and when no one confesses, she threatens to leave? Yes, that is the kind of environment we all want to live in, is it not?

[gaelicpeas]

When you look at the house of Ant like that, no wonder they are all so dysfunctional. No one trusts anyone, or so it appears. Lay the blame elsewhere for something that might incriminate you. Cindy seems to be the paranoid one, accusatory and blaming others for perceived wrongs, and when no one confesses, she threatens to leave? Yes, that is the kind of environment we all want to live in, is it not?True, and it doesn't help that now Cindy and George keep saying what a wonderful daughter Casey has been, mother of the year, left the house on June 16 just like it was a normal day. Sheesh...

[Sun]

This family lies so much it is hard to know what to think.

At times, I think Casey was playing her parents against each other. For instance, in that 7-24 LE interview of George, he says that he and Cindy separated in late 2005 because of (my paraphrasing) "issues with Casey and money stuff". Then he goes on to say that he moved down near his parents and got a job because (again my paraphrasing) "I had to get out before something stupid manifests". I wonder if Casey was stealing money and George was getting blamed for it.

To me, that recovered email of Cindy's implies just that - that she had accused George of being in the house during the day and he denied it and now she "doesn't know who or what to believe". Maybe Cindy had threatened to leave because she thought George was sneaking in the house during the day, when in fact it was Casey.

And then other times, I think Cindy and Casey are conniving together to get rid of George. And then sometimes I think Casey and George are in this together! The whole thing makes my head spin...

Casey's cell phone pings might show if she had visited the Anthony home on July 14th. I think that you may be right in thinking that Cindy sensed someone being in the house on July 14th.

I've thought a bit about just why Casey wanted to "pick George" in that private jail visit that never occured. I think that Casey was wanting one last change to manipulate George, and to make sure that he was going to be useful to her. I think that Casey probably figured that Cindy and Lee would automatically be there for her.

[girlspell]

As far as I know, the parents have not visited Casey since her final arrest. There been various reason for not seeing her, none of which I believe. I have always thought George and Cindy (well Cindy anyway) knew for a long time that Casey killed Caylee. Is this their way of dealing with it? :wub: Is this their way of avoiding the truth?

[gaelicpeas]

Casey's cell phone pings might show if she had visited the Anthony home on July 14th. I think that you may be right in thinking that Cindy sensed someone being in the house on July 14th.

I've thought a bit about just why Casey wanted to "pick George" in that private jail visit that never occured. I think that Casey was wanting one last change to manipulate George, and to make sure that he was going to be useful to her. I think that Casey probably figured that Cindy and Lee would automatically be there for her.Yeah, her "picking" George was odd. Not sure if she wanted to use George because Cindy and Lee were against her... or whether she wanted to use George because Cindy and Lee were for her. lol...

[Julie Dupree]

As far as I know, the parents have not visited Casey since her final arrest. There been various reason for not seeing her, none of which I believe. I have always thought George and Cindy (well Cindy anyway) knew for a long time that Casey killed Caylee. Is this their way of dealing with it? :wub: Is this their way of avoiding the truth?

I think C and G would be there every chance they have if Casey would accept their visit...I think it is because she does not want to see them is the reason they do not go. I do not for a second believe it has anything to do with the visits being recorded...my opinion.
Julie

[Julie Dupree]

Gotta run...have a dinner date with a very special 6 yr old. Have fun...see you tomorrow.
Julie

[gaelicpeas]

As far as I know, the parents have not visited Casey since her final arrest. There been various reason for not seeing her, none of which I believe. I have always thought George and Cindy (well Cindy anyway) knew for a long time that Casey killed Caylee. Is this their way of dealing with it? :wub: Is this their way of avoiding the truth?
I wonder whether it is Casey or Jose that doesn't want Cindy and George visiting her. In that 7-24 LE interview with George, it was VERY clear that George did not care for Jose. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

lol... although I must say, if Casey was my client, I wouldn't want George and Cindy visiting her either! They have been a nightmare for the defense, IMO. I mean, maybe not early on before the whole world figured out what they were about, but definitely now.

[Sun]

I wonder whether it is Casey or Jose that doesn't want Cindy and George visiting her. In that 7-24 LE interview with George, it was VERY clear that George did not care for Jose. JMO

I would say that Baez has convinced Casey to not visit with ANYONE but Baez or folks that Baez wants her to see. Note that Baez wanted Casey to see Dominic Casey in the jail on August 8th. Given Baez's isolation tactics in regards to Casey, I found that extremely odd.

[enigma™]

I would say that Baez has convinced Casey to not visit with ANYONE but Baez or folks that Baez wants her to see. Note that Baez wanted Casey to see Dominic Casey in the jail on August 8th. Given Baez's isolation tactics in regards to Casey, I found that extremely odd.

He is yet another control freak in the myriad of control freaks in this case. JB wants to be the end all and be all for Casey. This case is supposed to put him in the hall of fame, unfortunately for him, he is not qualified to lead the defense. Too bad, so sad - take a back seat and see how the big people play the game. He is in a learning process. Perhaps this is his springboard for future FL DP cases. Personally, I would like him to melt away like an ice cube in the FL summer sun. MUO

[gaelicpeas]

I would say that Baez has convinced Casey to not visit with ANYONE but Baez or folks that Baez wants her to see. Note that Baez wanted Casey to see Dominic Casey in the jail on August 8th. Given Baez's isolation tactics in regards to Casey, I found that extremely odd.Yes, the visit with Dominic Casey was interesting, I must say. D Casey parted ways with Jose in October, right?

When did the supposed licorice incident occur?

[Pruddennce]

I would say that Baez has convinced Casey to not visit with ANYONE but Baez or folks that Baez wants her to see. Note that Baez wanted Casey to see Dominic Casey in the jail on August 8th. Given Baez's isolation tactics in regards to Casey, I found that extremely odd.

I didnt find it odd Sun, because he was on Baez' payroll until October. what I find interesting and suspect: no longer on Baez' payroll, he is picked up by the Anthonys to continue his GREAT PI work? (right)....... suddenly he is out snooping around the following month in the wooded area.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Sun]

I didnt find it odd Sun, because he was on Baez' payroll until October. what I find interesting and suspect: no longer on Baez' payroll, he is picked up by the Anthonys to continue his GREAT PI work? (right)....... suddenly he is out snooping around the following month in the wooded area.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I found it odd because it was only the one visit, and Baez was there with him the whole time. What was so important that Baez couldn't just relay it on to Dominic Casey? What was the need for a face to face meeting of Dominic Casey and Casey that one time?

[MoonFlwr]

Hello Posters

I have followed this case, but haven't kept up closely over the last few months. Could someone tell me if a trial date has been set?

TIA :)

[101Spots]

How weird was that guy who visited her first at the jail? When she saw the screen of him, you can see that she didn't really recognize him at all until he mentioned a mutual friend (Cali Mark Hawkins ?). First of all, how did he ever get in the jail there to even put his name on a list? If Casey didn't even know him, couldn't she have just said, "I don't know this guy?" If she was SOOO paranoid about LE trying to "trick her" - and even having to talk in her ring de-coder language to her family later that same day - why did she even take the time to hear from this random (to her anyway) guy who told her to know she had friends "on the outside." And Casey, true to selfish form, said something like, "Good, good to know" and I could almost see her roll her eyes! No one else visited her in that entire time frame after her arrest but family and Bozo - so, who and what was the agenda of this visitor that day? And why has NOT one visitor made the journey to the jail to see her? Has Bozo even been there lately? What gives?

IIRC, Annie tried to visit, but was refused admittance to the inner sanctum.

Or was it Amy? One of the "A" girls, anywho.

She came, she waited, she was snubbed.

Veni, vedi, vamoose.

[101Spots]

Hello Posters

I have followed this case, but haven't kept up closely over the last few months. Could someone tell me if a trial date has been set?

TIA :)

In my dreams. We have a January, 2010 date to "see how things are going" and to ~possibly~ set a pre-trial date.

<heaving sigh>

[Sun]

Hello Posters

I have followed this case, but haven't kept up closely over the last few months. Could someone tell me if a trial date has been set?

TIA :)

Earlier this year a trial date was set for Oct 12th. However, just this last week that trial date was cancelled and no new trial date set. There was a status/pre-trial conference set for Jan 21, 2010.

[gaelicpeas]

How weird was that guy who visited her first at the jail? When she saw the screen of him, you can see that she didn't really recognize him at all until he mentioned a mutual friend (Cali Mark Hawkins ?). First of all, how did he ever get in the jail there to even put his name on a list? If Casey didn't even know him, couldn't she have just said, "I don't know this guy?" If she was SOOO paranoid about LE trying to "trick her" - and even having to talk in her ring de-coder language to her family later that same day - why did she even take the time to hear from this random (to her anyway) guy who told her to know she had friends "on the outside." And Casey, true to selfish form, said something like, "Good, good to know" and I could almost see her roll her eyes! No one else visited her in that entire time frame after her arrest but family and Bozo - so, who and what was the agenda of this visitor that day? And why has NOT one visitor made the journey to the jail to see her? Has Bozo even been there lately? What gives?Who knows who that guy was... but I think he was there before Casey (or Jose) realized she shouldn't be talking to anybody. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

Just my lil humble opinion but I suspect Baez and OC are getting ready to throw mom and dad under the semi. JMO, Baez and OC are setting the stage, putting on the make up, and going thru a final rehersal to take G&C down, down, down. Might explain why AL ended up on the case, doesn't she dig deep into family dynamics & relationships? IIRC recently BC went on tv and stated Baez wasn't allowing them to see her and he didn't agree with Baez's decision. G&C might need to stop paying for OC's legal bills and start stashing some away for their own defense.I personally think that is the only hope this defense has. JMO

[girlspell]

How weird was that guy who visited her first at the jail? When she saw the screen of him, you can see that she didn't really recognize him at all until he mentioned a mutual friend (Cali Mark Hawkins ?). First of all, how did he ever get in the jail there to even put his name on a list? If Casey didn't even know him, couldn't she have just said, "I don't know this guy?" If she was SOOO paranoid about LE trying to "trick her" - and even having to talk in her ring de-coder language to her family later that same day - why did she even take the time to hear from this random (to her anyway) guy who told her to know she had friends "on the outside." And Casey, true to selfish form, said something like, "Good, good to know" and I could almost see her roll her eyes! No one else visited her in that entire time frame after her arrest but family and Bozo - so, who and what was the agenda of this visitor that day? And why has NOT one visitor made the journey to the jail to see her? Has Bozo even been there lately? What gives?

Maybe Bozo is the daddy....Heck, anything is possible :smile:

[sunstar]

lol... well they spent PAGES during that interview trying to get him to figure out which day Cindy called him about the gate being open and the pool ladder on the pool. He seems fixated on the 24th.

Also, I THINK he says in that interview that he also saw Casey on another day besides June 24. But he talks in circles and goes off on tangents much like the rest of his family. It is really hard to follow him, IMO.

Hi! :smile: I could never figure out how so much stuff happened on the 24th. Filing the report about the stolen cans, getting them back, and not cancelling the report. And I still wonder if that's also the day that Casey disposed of Caylee's remains in the woods. MOO

[sunstar]

Earlier this year a trial date was set for Oct 12th. However, just this last week that trial date was cancelled and no new trial date set. There was a status/pre-trial conference set for Jan 21, 2010.

I hadn't realized it was changed either. Too much "other news" on lately. :sad:

[Sun]

I hadn't realized it was changed either. Too much "other news" on lately. :sad:

True. And, the meeting between Judge Strickland and the prosecutors and defense was only covered by one media station, WFTV Channel 9. Kathi Belich is on the ball covering news that we want to see!

[gaelicpeas]

Hi! :smile: I could never figure out how so much stuff happened on the 24th. Filing the report about the stolen cans, getting them back, and not cancelling the report. And I still wonder if that's also the day that Casey disposed of Caylee's remains in the woods. MOO
I think LE came out for the gas cans stolen on 6-24. Not sure if they came out before or after Casey returned the cans to George, but I am pretty sure I saw that they came out to the house. JMO as no link.

[Unleashed]

I think it's Cindy.
I googled "&nbsp".
The &nbsp shows up where the extra spaces are.
Remember our soda pop poster. Typed the exact same way.
IMO

You realize, of course, that when the soda pop poster senses it's name being mentioned, it arrives? :glare:

I will hold you fully responsible.:laugh:

jmo

[sunstar]

True. And, the meeting between Judge Strickland and the prosecutors and defense was only covered by one media station, WFTV Channel 9. Kathi Belich is on the ball covering news that we want to see!

Thanks again! That's why I came back here tonight to check and see what's going on. :smile:

[sunstar]

I think LE came out for the gas cans stolen on 6-24. Not sure if they came out before or after Casey returned the cans to George, but I am pretty sure I saw that they came out to the house. JMO as no link.

I think so too but I still question if George called them back and cancelled the report after he recovered the cans from Casey. I don't remember him doing that. :confused:

[bchand]

I think so too but I still question if George called them back and cancelled the report after he recovered the cans from Casey. I don't remember him doing that. :confused:

I wonder too because in his report, he said he was willing to file charges against the thief.

[101Spots]

Yep, going to be her word against their word. Any attempts to imply who is more credible or any attempt to suggest G,C or OC are of good strong character just can't be used, at least with a straight face and everyone giggling in their seats. I wonder just what kind of bus Baez and OC are looking at, it's gonna have to a mighty powerful one.:wink:

Big Bus (http://www.lovingdubai.com/Resources/repositories/images/gettingaround/bigbus.jpg)

:lol:

[AnniePie]

When you look at the house of Ant like that, no wonder they are all so dysfunctional. No one trusts anyone, or so it appears. Lay the blame elsewhere for something that might incriminate you. Cindy seems to be the paranoid one, accusatory and blaming others for perceived wrongs, and when no one confesses, she threatens to leave? Yes, that is the kind of environment we all want to live in, is it not?

Hi everyone! :seeya:

I know this is wrong of me but the more I read about this family, the more I feel that my family is "normal". And that's a good thing. :laugh: The kids will probably still need shrinks, but not as much as this entire bunch.

[gaelicpeas]

I think so too but I still question if George called them back and cancelled the report after he recovered the cans from Casey. I don't remember him doing that. :confused:I don't know either, but I am pretty sure there was a police report.

[bchand]

Just my lil humble opinion but I suspect Baez and OC are getting ready to throw mom and dad under the semi. JMO, Baez and OC are setting the stage, putting on the make up, and going thru a final rehersal to take G&C down, down, down. Might explain why AL ended up on the case, doesn't she dig deep into family dynamics & relationships? IIRC recently BC went on tv and stated Baez wasn't allowing them to see her and he didn't agree with Baez's decision. G&C might need to stop paying for OC's legal bills and start stashing some away for their own defense.


I don't know if any of you watched the J P Orlewicz trial or not but there was another obnoxious mother. I think she yelled out to him in court one day too (in support). I can see Cindy doing this eventually.

Anyway, JP wants a new trial. He's saying his mama abused him and was a pack rat. Talk about throwing people under a bus. lol

Wonder how mama feels about that?

[AnniePie]

Just my lil humble opinion but I suspect Baez and OC are getting ready to throw mom and dad under the semi. JMO, Baez and OC are setting the stage, putting on the make up, and going thru a final rehersal to take G&C down, down, down. Might explain why AL ended up on the case, doesn't she dig deep into family dynamics & relationships? IIRC recently BC went on tv and stated Baez wasn't allowing them to see her and he didn't agree with Baez's decision. G&C might need to stop paying for OC's legal bills and start stashing some away for their own defense.

I hate to wish ill upon people, but in this case I can be easily swayed. :angry:

If Casey and crew turn on George and Cindy, it would be the perfect thing IMO. Betcha then the truth would come roaring out!!

[gaelicpeas]

Hi everyone! :seeya:

I know this is wrong of me but the more I read about this family, the more I feel that my family is "normal". And that's a good thing. :laugh: The kids will probably still need shrinks, but not as much as this entire bunch.lol... I think we all feel our families are more normal after reading about this bunch.

One thing is for sure.. no one in my family was a thief, or a liar, and well, for that matter, a murderer.

[AnniePie]

You realize, of course, that when the soda pop poster senses it's name being mentioned, it arrives? :glare:

I will hold you fully responsible.:laugh:

jmo

Exactly what I thought, Unleashed! Batten down the hatches and prepare for the worst. :sad:

(How are you feeling today?)

[gaelicpeas]

I don't know if any of you watched the J P Orlewicz trial or not but there was another obnoxious mother. I think she yelled out to him in court one day too (in support). I can see Cindy doing this eventually.

Anyway, JP wants a new trial. He's saying his mama abused him and was a pack rat. Talk about throwing people under a bus. lol

Wonder how mama feels about that?hmm, haven't followed that case, but didn't realize that being a pack-rat was a criminal offense. However, yes, I foresee many, many theatrics during this trial. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

I hate to wish ill upon people, but in this case I can be easily swayed. :angry:

If Casey and crew turn on George and Cindy, it would be the perfect thing IMO. Betcha then the truth would come roaring out!!
Good point, Annie P... maybe G and C will tell the truth then.


(although I highly doubt it)

[sunstar]

I wonder too because in his report, he said he was willing to file charges against the thief.

Funny how things can change when the thief turns out to be his own daughter. :biggrin:

[AnniePie]

lol... I think we all feel our families are more normal after reading about this bunch.

One thing is for sure.. no one in my family was a thief, or a liar, and well, for that matter, a murderer.

My children certainly aren't perfect; they're presently "in process" :smile: The difference between this fam and mine though, is that mine have always had to be responsible for whatever crap they stirred up. (I'm sure your children were too!)

No one ever once made Casey own up to her lies and the stuff she brought down upon herself. And G and C are responsible. That is just lazy parenting, as it just took too much effort to hold their child responsible for her actions.

[AnniePie]

Good point, Annie P... maybe G and C will tell the truth then.


(although I highly doubt it)

I think that if they turned on George and Cindy, G & C would shout the truth from the rooftops! Anything to keep from being charged with Caylee's murder. I don't think there's enough loyalty in that family to keep them all from pointing fingers at one another when it came down to the crunch of staying out of prison.

(MO, as if you didn't know :tonguewag:)

[bchand]

Funny how things can change when the thief turns out to be his own daughter. :biggrin:

Right.

I was watching the autopsy report hearing again today and it's just so ironic to me that George and Cindy DO NOT get it. He says:

"Please show us some peace and some dignity by keeping this report sealed," said George Anthony to Judge Strickland.

The Anthonys said releasing the report would cause them even more anguish and they were afraid that the results will be exploited.

"This last year has been an emotional strain for our entire family," said George. "The protection of our family's rights and privacy and emotional well-being, has been tossed aside over and over again."

NEVER do you hear them put the blame for their family's upheaval directly where it belongs - right at Casey Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19822164/detail.html

[gaelicpeas]

I think that if they turned on George and Cindy, G & C would shout the truth from the rooftops! Anything to keep from being charged with Caylee's murder. I don't think there's enough loyalty in that family to keep them all from pointing fingers at one another when it came down to the crunch of staying out of prison.

(MO, as if you didn't know :tonguewag:)yup, yup... this could easily turn into the trial of the century if Lyons doesn't convince Casey to plea. JMO

[AnniePie]

Right.

I was watching the autopsy report hearing again today and it's just so ironic to me that George and Cindy DO NOT get it. He says:

"Please show us some peace and some dignity by keeping this report sealed," said George Anthony to Judge Strickland.

The Anthonys said releasing the report would cause them even more anguish and they were afraid that the results will be exploited.

"This last year has been an emotional strain for our entire family," said George. "The protection of our family's rights and privacy and emotional well-being, has been tossed aside over and over again."

NEVER do you hear them put the blame for their family's upheaval directly where it belongs - right at Casey Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19822164/detail.html

Exactly.

And then the prosecution asks "How many times have you been on television in the past while, Georgie?" (Or to that effect. :biggrin:) as if to ask, "How have you protected your own privacy?" I loved it.

[bchand]

Exactly.

And then the prosecution asks "How many times have you been on television in the past while, Georgie?" (Or to that effect. :biggrin:) as if to ask, "How have you protected your own privacy?" I loved it.

That WAS perfect. And did you see just how quickly he turned off the tears and got snarky with her? "I have no idea how many times we've been on TV." Sure George, take a guess.

[MoonFlwr]

Thanks for the info about the trial dates, 101Spots and Sun! :)

[AnniePie]

That WAS perfect. And did you see just how quickly he turned off the tears and got snarky with her? "I have no idea how many times we've been on TV." Sure George, take a guess.

I noticed that too. How can people do that?!

(It sort of reminded me of another person whining at the judge just not too long ago. I laughed at him too. :thumbdown:)

[Unleashed]

Exactly what I thought, Unleashed! Batten down the hatches and prepare for the worst. :sad:

(How are you feeling today?)

Still posting s l o w l y and carfully. :tongueside:

[GIGI4256]

hmm, haven't followed that case, but didn't realize that being a pack-rat was a criminal offense. However, yes, I foresee many, many theatrics during this trial. JMO

that boy is pure evil, just like casey. i watched the trial and saw no remorse at all for what he did. JMO

[desmom]

I didnt find it odd Sun, because he was on Baez' payroll until October. what I find interesting and suspect: no longer on Baez' payroll, he is picked up by the Anthonys to continue his GREAT PI work? (right)....... suddenly he is out snooping around the following month in the wooded area.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

And what did he tell LE he was too uncomfortable to say on tape during his interview on January 7?

page 75 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-02/45149777.PDF

[101Spots]

And what did he tell LE he was too uncomfortable to say on tape during his interview on January 7?

page 75 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-02/45149777.PDF

Ah, quite a mystery! And wasn't this little tidbit sealed by Strickland? Makes me want to hear it even more.

[desmom]

Ah, quite a mystery! And wasn't this little tidbit sealed by Strickland? Makes me want to hear it even more.

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/04/jose-baez-in-trouble-judge-strickland-filed-complaint/
Dominic Casey told detectives he would’ve called 911 if he had found Caylee in November, but also that he was told not to call 911 by someone he apparently identified during an interview, which Judge Strickland sealed because it divulged defense secrets...

Sheaffer believes the judge’s complaint involves more than a defense instruction to Dominic Casey not to call 911. He says judges usually handle trivial issues with attorneys by holding contempt of court hearings in their own courtrooms.

[seeing_eye]

As far as I know, the parents have not visited Casey since her final arrest. There been various reason for not seeing her, none of which I believe. I have always thought George and Cindy (well Cindy anyway) knew for a long time that Casey killed Caylee. Is this their way of dealing with it? :wub: Is this their way of avoiding the truth?

IMO, it's not C & G's decision to not visit Casey in jail. I think Casey refuses to see them and they don't want to admit that to the world. So they make up other excuses. I base my opinion on how they react with each other in the courtroom. Casey appears to be snubbing them and they look as if they are begging for any little crumb of attention Casey might throw their way.

[AnniePie]

IMO, it's not C & G's decision to not visit Casey in jail. I think Casey refuses to see them and they don't want to admit that to the world. So they make up other excuses. I base my opinion on how they react with each other in the courtroom. Casey appears to be snubbing them and they look as if they are begging for any little crumb of attention Casey might throw their way.

I agree with you, s_e. But what is it that she doesn't want to see them? Is it a power struggle suggesting that she has power over them to determine whether or not they can grace her royal presence? That's the only thing I can think of!

[spiritwolf46]

Exactly.

And then the prosecution asks "How many times have you been on television in the past while, Georgie?" (Or to that effect. :biggrin:) as if to ask, "How have you protected your own privacy?" I loved it.


THAT was the GREATEST moment ever! :laugh:

[Pruddennce]

And what did he tell LE he was too uncomfortable to say on tape during his interview on January 7?

page 75 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-02/45149777.PDF

yes, its interesting that he did not want to reveal on tape who was NOT ON BOARD with calling 911 if remains were found .....

he claims it wasnt cindy or george or anyone that was 'working for the anthonys'....

its obvious, IMO. the statement included the words 'concern about privileged information'.......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[101Spots]

It IS really weird to me, as a parent. They don't see her,at all, when even their own attorney Mr. Ironsides, has said he does not agree with them not seeing their daughter...so what gives? I can't believe that Casey is making these decisions based on anything other than whatever "legalspeak" she is hearing from Baez. For a control freak, she sure is being controlled herself. I guess they are afraid that the BODY language would just be TOO much - and they would be right. Things unspoken can often be seen in the light of day, er, light of jail.

ITA. Bozo is in the driver's seat on this one. Casey might be sitting on his lap, but it's his foot on the accelerator.

[Unleashed]

It IS really weird to me, as a parent. They don't see her,at all, when even their own attorney Mr. Ironsides, has said he does not agree with them not seeing their daughter...so what gives? I can't believe that Casey is making these decisions based on anything other than whatever "legalspeak" she is hearing from Baez. For a control freak, she sure is being controlled herself. I guess they are afraid that the BODY language would just be TOO much - and they would be right. Things unspoken can often be seen in the light of day, er, light of jail.
my bold

I can never read that or 'dead squirrels' without :lol::lol::lol:

jmo

[AnniePie]

THAT was the GREATEST moment ever! :laugh:

Yep! :laugh: Ever to this point. I think we are going to be treated to a LOT of greatest moments ever when this goes to trial.

And if we aren't FLABs by now, we certainly will be by the time it's over.

[seeing_eye]

Just my lil humble opinion but I suspect Baez and OC are getting ready to throw mom and dad under the semi. JMO, Baez and OC are setting the stage, putting on the make up, and going thru a final rehersal to take G&C down, down, down. Might explain why AL ended up on the case, doesn't she dig deep into family dynamics & relationships? IIRC recently BC went on tv and stated Baez wasn't allowing them to see her and he didn't agree with Baez's decision. G&C might need to stop paying for OC's legal bills and start stashing some away for their own defense.

I am not convinced that G&C are paying for Casey's legal fees. I think they're spending all the money they can get on themselves.

[bchand]

I am not convinced that G&C are paying for Casey's legal fees. I think they're spending all the money they can get on themselves.

I think the victim, Caylee, is paying for ALL of them.

[summer]

I think the victim, Caylee, is paying for ALL of them.

Yes indeed.

[summer]

I am not convinced that G&C are paying for Casey's legal fees. I think they're spending all the money they can get on themselves.

I know it's counter-intuitive, given what we know about them, but I do think G&C are funneling their licensing fees, cough, right to the defense. Maybe there's enough to take care of all of them. We might be astounded at how much. Just my opinion.

I don't understand why the media hasn't investigated that angle. It's not illegal but it's kinda interesting.

[spiritwolf46]

Yep! :laugh: Ever to this point. I think we are going to be treated to a LOT of greatest moments ever when this goes to trial.

And if we aren't FLABs by now, we certainly will be by the time it's over.

LOL! :lol: You got THAT right!

MAN! When Geo just STOPPED bawling on the spot, I thought..."WHAT A PHONEY!!!!" I HOPE that these people get back all the carp that they have given at trial. I cannot WAIT to see the Prosecutors question them! Strickland (if there is no change of venue) will not take any carp from them and they WILL answer the questions asked!

I am like you. I am very uncomfortable wishing bad things on people, but these horrid people asked for what they are and will get in the end. I will applaud when it happens!

[seeing_eye]

I hate to wish ill upon people, but in this case I can be easily swayed. :angry:

If Casey and crew turn on George and Cindy, it would be the perfect thing IMO. Betcha then the truth would come roaring out!!

Nah, the truth come out of the mouth of an Anthony?? It's impossible. It's against the law of physics.

[AnniePie]

ITA. Bozo is in the driver's seat on this one. Casey might be sitting on his lap, but it's his foot on the accelerator.

Arrkk! :laugh:

[AnniePie]

I think the victim, Caylee, is paying for ALL of them.

Groaaaaaannnnn... so true. :huh:

[spiritwolf46]

I think the victim, Caylee, is paying for ALL of them.

Truer words have never been spoken. So terribly sad! :crying:

[AnniePie]

LOL! :lol: You got THAT right!

MAN! When Geo just STOPPED bawling on the spot, I thought..."WHAT A PHONEY!!!!" I HOPE that these people get back all the carp that they have given at trial. I cannot WAIT to see the Prosecutors question them! Strickland (if there is no change of venue) will not take any carp from them and they WILL answer the questions asked!

I am like you. I am very uncomfortable wishing bad things on people, but these horrid people asked for what they are and will get in the end. I will applaud when it happens!

I don't think we really have to wish bad things on the Anthonys.

I believe there is a spiritual rule on this earth... you can call it whatever you like... Karma or "you reap what you sow" or whatever. But your actions will come back to bite you in the butt eventually.

We will see them pay for their deception, I guarantee it. :mellow:

[seeing_eye]

I agree with you, s_e. But what is it that she doesn't want to see them? Is it a power struggle suggesting that she has power over them to determine whether or not they can grace her royal presence? That's the only thing I can think of!

Who knows? When it comes to Casey I've never been able to understand why she does anything. She appears to be not typically human and so does things unlike humans. She's an enigma to me. I can't think like her.

[spiritwolf46]

I don't think we really have to wish bad things on the Anthonys.

I believe there is a spiritual rule on this earth... you can call it whatever you like... Karma or "you reap what you sow" or whatever. But your actions will come back to bite you in the butt eventually.

We will see them pay for their deception, I guarantee it. :mellow:

Bolding mine:

Yes we will. I am a firm believer in what goes around, comes around. We will see that happen! ;)

[spiritwolf46]

Gonna get off here and get to bed!

I hope you ALL have a wonderful and safe night!

Night all! :seeya:

[AnniePie]

Gonna get off here and get to bed!

I hope you ALL have a wonderful and safe night!

Night all! :seeya:

Night Wolfie!

[trucrimegal]

Reporting for duty?

[Dells]

IMO, it's not C & G's decision to not visit Casey in jail. I think Casey refuses to see them and they don't want to admit that to the world. So they make up other excuses. I base my opinion on how they react with each other in the courtroom. Casey appears to be snubbing them and they look as if they are begging for any little crumb of attention Casey might throw their way.

I so agree w/you.

It is kinda ironic. Casey is the one sitting in jail accused of murdering her own daughter. You wouldn't think she would be the one to hold the cards in all of this, would you? I mean it would seem that most people in her position would be begging for their parents love, support, and jailhouse visits. But, w/Casey it is just the opposite. Somehow she thinks she holds all the power in this. I guess since that is the way she has always lived her life, she thinks this is the way is is now. Weird. Wonder if that will change once she is convicted and sent to prison?

[Dells]

ITA. Bozo is in the driver's seat on this one. Casey might be sitting on his lap, but it's his foot on the accelerator.

I agree w/you. I think to some extent since JB seems to have some sort of emotional hold over Casey, that he will always be in charge of this case, even though AL is now supposed to be lead counsel on this case. I think some of these attorneys agreed to take this case on for the publicity and the high profile nature of the case, so I think if Casey wants JB to stay heavily involved, then he will. I mean, I think these other high profile attorneys will allow Casey to call the shots and just put up w/it because it seems that they really want to be/stay involved w/this case.

[101Spots]

I agree w/you. I think to some extent since JB seems to have some sort of emotional hold over Casey, that he will always be in charge of this case, even though AL is now supposed to be lead counsel on this case. I think some of these attorneys agreed to take this case on for the publicity and the high profile nature of the case, so I think if Casey wants JB to stay heavily involved, then he will. I mean, I think these other high profile attorneys will allow Casey to call the shots and just put up w/it because it seems that they really want to be/stay involved w/this case.

I fully expect Bozo to limit contact between the other lawyers and Casey. He wants to be in control, and will pull out all the stops to retain this control.

And Casey is stupid enough to let him do it.

[tinkerbell]

Good night...

[cassidy]

THAT was the GREATEST moment ever! :laugh:

It sure was one of the greats! And it played out right before the judges eyes. If Strickland didn't have George's number before that, George handed it to him right there. Going from weepy to nasty without batting an eye. JMO

[spiritwolf46]

It sure was one of the greats! And it played out right before the judges eyes. If Strickland didn't have George's number before that, George handed it to him right there. Going from weepy to nasty without batting an eye. JMO

You betcha! Seems to be the way it is with these people! I hope that everyone has their numbers! The more the merrier! :laugh:

Has anyone heard anything more of Cleveland Clinic taking what the A's did there last week to their legal division?

TIA!

[Steps]

IMO, it's not C & G's decision to not visit Casey in jail. I think Casey refuses to see them and they don't want to admit that to the world. So they make up other excuses. I base my opinion on how they react with each other in the courtroom. Casey appears to be snubbing them and they look as if they are begging for any little crumb of attention Casey might throw their way.

I agree totally! Just the look on G and C's faces during the last hearing when Casey walked out of the courtroom without as much as giving them a glance speaks volumns!! Casey is punishing her parents. In her mind it is ALL their fault that she HAD to kill their granddaughter. What a sorry excuse for a human being!!!! MOO, of course!

[Myka]

ok, so we know Geo was formally in LE. Did he go to a police academy? I was wondering where he went for his training to become involved in LE?

[gaelicpeas]

ok, so we know Geo was formally in LE. Did he go to a police academy? I was wondering where he went for his training to become involved in LE?Good morning, Myka. Sorry, I have no idea where he went for his training.

[Scampi]

Good morning everyone. I have so many great moments from this nightmare so far. Among them:

1. Megyn Kelly's kick butt interview of cindy, the only person I have ever seen smack her down the way she deserved to be, imo.

2. Kathy Belich standing out side the Jail and asking the OC why she was strutting.

3. cindy calling the press maggots and leaches.

4. cindy demanding that all of us get off our asses to search for a live Caylee.

5. George lying in his depostion with Morgan claiming he knew nothing about the OC stealing from anyone.

These are just a few of my favorites. :biggrin:

[cassidy]

You betcha! Seems to be the way it is with these people! I hope that everyone has their numbers! The more the merrier! :laugh:

Has anyone heard anything more of Cleveland Clinic taking what the A's did there last week to their legal division?
TIA!

I must have missed something. What's that about?

[smileyjoe]

ok, so we know Geo was formally in LE. Did he go to a police academy? I was wondering where he went for his training to become involved in LE?

You must have passed through an accredited police academy to become a commissioned police officer.

Joe.

[summer]

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ORC § 2923.125 (F) states that for renewal, the çcw licensee shall submit a competency certification of the type described in § 2923.125 (B)(3) "..that is not older than six years or a renewed competency certification of the type described in division (G)(4)." (See note below). In the initial application, the applicant could have submitted a competency certification that was nearly three years old (but not over three years) to obtain the first CCW license. In the event the competency certification submitted for a person's first license was older than two years (but not older than three) and adding the four years of validity for the first license, the renewal applicant would have a competency certification OLDER than six years. In this case, the licensee must submit a NEW competency certification or a RENEWED competency certification that meets the provisions of ORC § 2923.125(G).

NOTE #1: The renewal of a competency certification must follow the guidelines set forth in ORC- (G)(2)(a) and (b). CCW coordinators should carefully review any CCW "renewal" course to ensure it meets the provisions of this ORC section. The renewal must include a written examination as described in § (G)(2)(a) and a physical demonstration of competency as described in § (G)(2)(b). The same qualitative and quantitative criteria used to evaluate CCW courses for the initial issuance of the CCW license should be applied to any renewal course.

Subsequent renewals

Individual licensee renewal years will vary by the year first issued plus four years. For licenses issued after March 14,2007, renewal periods are five years. The process will be the same as listed above until such time there is a substantive change to the CCW law requiring an adjustment.

On the one hand I'm glad Cindy got him off the force because in my opinion his service had to have been a detriment to the community (Richard Cain anyone?). On the other hand, this is the career path he chose and he was never able to fit anywhere else again. Guess he became passive-agressive about working, hey, she made him quit his job so it's not his fault if he can't keep one now, falls victim to internet scams, yadda yadda.

[Julie Dupree]

Everyone in this family lie so much, I am not able to tell when they are telling the truth, or when it is "business as usual" for them. At this point I tend to think 99% of everything they say is a lie and the 1% that is the truth is hidden so far below the surface I do not know when I hear or read it.
Julie

[crimeq]

That WAS perfect. And did you see just how quickly he turned off the tears and got snarky with her? "I have no idea how many times we've been on TV." Sure George, take a guess.

"I haven't counted."

[really3997]

[QUOTE=Eagleeye;13276487][quote=Rapunzel;13276387]I wonder if it is just on the job training??? I don't see anything on the application for special training needed to become employed. They do psychological evaluations...I'm surprised he could be employed!!! (snipped)


Agree, but wasn't it found that he was just a deputy (like Barney Fife:biggrin:) and not a detective...oh please tell me he was not a detective!!!!

They (the A's) state he was a detective. I am still saying he answered the phone or emptied the garbage. No way did that man pass what ever he needed to pass to become anything that required knowledge. REALLY JMO (until I see the test he took)

[crimeq]

IMO, it's not C & G's decision to not visit Casey in jail. I think Casey refuses to see them and they don't want to admit that to the world. So they make up other excuses. I base my opinion on how they react with each other in the courtroom. Casey appears to be snubbing them and they look as if they are begging for any little crumb of attention Casey might throw their way.

They are of no more use to her. They stopped being useful when they couldn't / wouldn't make her bail.

They are no longer useful to her need for her narcissistic "supply".

She still has that need, though--I wonder how it's being met. I don't think Jose is big enough to meet all her needs.

[Dells]

I agree totally! Just the look on G and C's faces during the last hearing when Casey walked out of the courtroom without as much as giving them a glance speaks volumns!! Casey is punishing her parents. In her mind it is ALL their fault that she HAD to kill their granddaughter. What a sorry excuse for a human being!!!! MOO, of course!

I so agree w/you. I believe Casey is trying to punish her parents by not acknowledging them in court and by also refusing visits w/them. JB is publicly saying that he is not allowing visits, but I think it is coming from Casey. Who knows why she is punishing them? Is it because she felt they drove her to murder Caylee, or she's upset that Cindy called 911 on her, or in those early days of this case they didn't give her their undivided support fast enough?

It is just ridiculous to me, because from my perspective, Casey shouldn't have any power or the upper hand in this relationship at all. She is the one accused of murder and sitting in jail. There just seems no possible way she will get out of this. Casey is snubbing her parents now, but they will probably be one of the only ones to still support her and want to see her and communicate w/her after she is convicted. You would think The Anthony's would have the upper hand and that Casey would be begging them to come visit her, but no.

Of course, maybe there is a part of Casey that feels shame for murdering Caylee and since she now knows that everyone knows what she did to Caylee she just doesn't want to have to face anybody if she doesn't have to. :shrug:

In any case, Casey is just further hurting herself w/her actions, just like she has done her entire life. She is getting satisfaction for the moment, but down the line she may regret her decision to act this way when she is sent to prison and has nobody but her parents. I am sure her "Dream Team" will disappear almost as soon as she is convicted. They will move on to bigger and better things and Casey will be left w/nobody.

[Dells]

They are of no more use to her. They stopped being useful when they couldn't / wouldn't make her bail.

They are no longer useful to her need for her narcissistic "supply".

She still has that need, though--I wonder how it's being met. I don't think Jose is big enough to meet all her needs.

I agree w/you in that is the way Casey thinks. But from my perspective her parents could still be useful to her in showing their support of her. I think having her parents visit and showing their support of her in jailhouse tapes would go a long way in rehabilitating her image, but Casey wants no part of it. Here she is already facing the DP, and she is doing things that are potentially going to negatively effect the outcome of her case. Casey is lucky her parents are still standing by her and publicly supporting her. I think if her parents ever turned on her and admitted they thought she murdered Caylee, then she would be convicted in record time.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by bchand
That WAS perfect. And did you see just how quickly he turned off the tears and got snarky with her? "I have no idea how many times we've been on TV." Sure George, take a guess.
"I haven't counted."


Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

And then if George gave another snarky answer, I would hope that the Judge declare George as a "hostile witness" or something like that. So the questioneer could then list each and every TV/media appearance or interview that occurred.

[bchand]

Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

And then if George gave another snarky answer, I would hope that the Judge declare George as a "hostile witness" or something like that. So the questioneer could then list each and every TV/media appearance or interview that occurred.

You know, after seeing George turn off the tears so quickly, I was surprised that this ruling affected Judge Strickland so much. He really seemed to have a hard time with it, but he said he had to follow the law.

[crimeq]

It sure was one of the greats! And it played out right before the judges eyes. If Strickland didn't have George's number before that, George handed it to him right there. Going from weepy to nasty without batting an eye. JMO

He had George's number previous to that hearing. JudgeS didn't even look at George during his teary plea until George mentioned the GREAT GRANDPARENTS and the damage done to them--and JudgeS whipped his eyes around to look at George and he had utter incredulity on his face, that George would use that.

JudgeS knows what he's dealing with, but I wonder if he wishes he didn't get this case to try in his courtroom.

[summer]

[QUOTE=Sun;13276603]Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

Snipped.

Ha! Or if she had then said: "Well, let's just ask the ABC producer you brought with you to court today, sitting right next to your wife, shall we? He's probably kept count..."

[crimeq]

Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

And then if George gave another snarky answer, I would hope that the Judge declare George as a "hostile witness" or something like that. So the questioneer could then list each and every TV/media appearance or interview that occurred.

LOL, yes.

And how disingenous of him. George, how many times has a limo picked you up to go to the airport to fly to New York, to stay in a fancy hotel, to have luxe dinners out, to be on national TV on major-ranked shows, LOL.

I can remember exactly how many times that happened to me :-)

[crimeq]

[QUOTE=Sun;13276603]Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

Snipped.

Ha! Or if she had then said: "Well, let's just ask the ABC producer you brought with you to court today, sitting right next to your wife, shall we? He's probably kept count..."

:lol::lol:

[Sun]

You know, after seeing George turn off the tears so quickly, I was surprised that this ruling affected Judge Strickland so much. He really seemed to have a hard time with it, but he said he had to follow the law.

I listened quite carefully to Judge Strickland's words, and got the impression that he probably disagreed with Conway bringing a Motion like this before the court. I really think that the only reason that he even set a hearing on this motion, was to see if Cindy and George were doing this in some way to help Casey. That question was answered when Conway tried to get in the "fair trial" part, which was quickly shut down by the State and by Judge Strickland. Sure didn't take him very long after that, to wrap up the hearing.

[Dells]

Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

Snipped.

Ha! Or if she had then said: "Well, let's just ask the ABC producer you brought with you to court today, sitting right next to your wife, shall we? He's probably kept count..."

Ha! That would have been priceless!:biggrin:

[crimeq]

[QUOTE=Sun;13276603]Wouldn't this have been just awsome, if the next question would have been, "I didn't ask you if you had counted, I asked you how many times."

Snipped.

Ha! Or if she had then said: "Well, let's just ask the ABC producer you brought with you to court today, sitting right next to your wife, shall we? He's probably kept count..."

LOL, I've wondered if Cindy was trying to use the presence of an ABC producer sitting beside her as a "silent threat" to the court, to get her way--if you rule against what Cindy wants, Cindy will plaster it all over national television!

[Pruddennce]

Came across this article, note the date listed. Would love to hear TM respond to their side of truth. KFN describes they collected fliers for Caylee, but during one of C.'s many interviews she talks about picking up fliers herself. IIRC she even talks about some others who were involved but don't remember anyone with KFN. JMHO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7674493/Casey-Anthony-KidFinders-explain-what-they-did-and-do

I especially enjoyed the Milsteads whine about not getting any money: *that kind of money could help ALL OF US in a big way.*

For Congressman Alan Grayson: You wanting to help an organization in the name of Caylee Anthony is commendable and not that this organization is unworthy, just remember there are many Missing Child organizations and some who actually worked Caylee's case *and that kind of money could help all of us in a big way. We know this is not about the family. Dennis Milstead has always said.” I don't come here for the family I come here for the child, a child who needs our help”.

*sure would. since their home is in foreclosure:

http://www.mypalmbeachclerk.com/

Select Public records, Court Records. Search his name.

the explanation about the boat was ridiculous....

With our new boat we have already been able to locate submerged vehicles hoping to possibly recover a missing loved one.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[girlspell]

I'm sure C&G would love to visit KC but they know it will be released and Jose does not want them to visit for that reason...because every time they visited her or she phoned them, her true demeanor came out and that will hurt her. I so agree with why she doesn't want to see them because she no longer has any use for them, at least in her mind. It is quite evident when in court she has no use for them...because it would not hurt her at all to smile or wave and give them some recognition.

I have a feeling this will be the way up until the criminal trial and during it. The only contact being a wave or so during the proceedings.

Out of curiosity, did S. Peterson's parents ever visit him in jail up to and during the trail?

I hope there won't be any more casualties for the witnesses of the prosecution during the trial. Each one had their personal trial because they knew Casey.

[crimeq]

I'm sure C&G would love to visit KC but they know it will be released and Jose does not want them to visit for that reason...because every time they visited her or she phoned them, her true demeanor came out and that will hurt her. I so agree with why she doesn't want to see them because she no longer has any use for them, at least in her mind. It is quite evident when in court she has no use for them...because it would not hurt her at all to smile or wave and give them some recognition.

She sure smiled and waved at her first hearing; she was expecting them to get her out and cover for her, pronto. When they couldn't do that, or would not do that, she became angry and they became useless to her.

ETA, I'm wondering about her need for drama. That first hearing was all about drama in her life; she appeared to be enjoying the attention. She appeared to think this was just another exciting happenstance in her life, great drama. And she was the star.

[Sun]

[QUOTE=summer;13276611]

LOL, I've wondered if Cindy was trying to use the presence of an ABC producer sitting beside her as a "silent threat" to the court, to get her way--if you rule against what Cindy wants, Cindy will plaster it all over national television!

That same fellow can be seen sitting in the audience in several other court hearings in this case.

[martha]

Hi everyone, Hope you or all having a very good day. Any news today? All I am hearing about is mj. I guess we will hear that to for the next two years or longer. I can;t believe g and c or staying of the tv. The lawyer may have told them it is time to be quite but still cindy don;t listen to anyone. I guess they or traveling around now that they don;t have to work any more just live of the money people or sending them. I don;t have any to send but if I did I sure would not send it to the a;s. casey would not have one dime in her jail acct.if it was left up to me. If they could prove she did not hurt Caylee that they had another person that killed Caylee then I might want to help her. I believe in helping anyone who needs help but not a killer and her family. I guess what bothers me the most is we will never know the truth about what happened to baby Caylee. anyone that would wait 31 days to tell their baby was missing is really not a mother.jmho

[seeing_eye]

ok, so we know Geo was formally in LE. Did he go to a police academy? I was wondering where he went for his training to become involved in LE?

On the sheriff's dept. employment application it states a copy of OPOTA Peace Officer Certificate (if applying for sworn position) must accompany application.

[really3997]

[QUOTE=summer;13276611]

LOL, I've wondered if Cindy was trying to use the presence of an ABC producer sitting beside her as a "silent threat" to the court, to get her way--if you rule against what Cindy wants, Cindy will plaster it all over national television!

Not to get picky it was the Today show producer that would be NBC. Sorry just wanted to be acurate:smile:

[sunstar]

Right.

I was watching the autopsy report hearing again today and it's just so ironic to me that George and Cindy DO NOT get it. He says:

"Please show us some peace and some dignity by keeping this report sealed," said George Anthony to Judge Strickland.

The Anthonys said releasing the report would cause them even more anguish and they were afraid that the results will be exploited.

"This last year has been an emotional strain for our entire family," said George. "The protection of our family's rights and privacy and emotional well-being, has been tossed aside over and over again."

NEVER do you hear them put the blame for their family's upheaval directly where it belongs - right at Casey Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19822164/detail.html
I agree. And, I might agree with him if he and Cindy hadn't taken advantage of every opportunity to put themselves in front of the cameras with interviews and change their stories at every turn. MOO

[Julie Dupree]

My sister terri was married to George Anthony during the mid to late 70’s. They dated all through high school and married for about 5 years, of not so wonderful wedding bliss.
She can tell you that George Anthony was an habitual liar. He had to always fabricate his stories, constantly lying, that was the main reason they divorced.
George’s father Lee, owned and operated a very successful used car dealership for many years in Niles, Ohio, called Anthony’s Auto Sales, before retiring to Florida.
I wonder were George learned to lie so well. He was born in to it, litterally.
As they say, “Like father, like daughter.”
Give my sister a call and she’ll enlighten you of George Anthony’s dark, deceitful side evidently passed on to his daughter.
Her name now is Terri Vandervault, living in Niles, Ohio



Don't ask me where I got this...looked at to many sites...but is this accurate??? Was George married before???

Does anyone know how or where to look up marriage licenses???

Seems to me I read somewhere that they were both divorced...maybe someone could check this out
Julie

[sunstar]

I'm sure C&G would love to visit KC but they know it will be released and Jose does not want them to visit for that reason...because every time they visited her or she phoned them, her true demeanor came out and that will hurt her. I so agree with why she doesn't want to see them because she no longer has any use for them, at least in her mind. It is quite evident when in court she has no use for them...because it would not hurt her at all to smile or wave and give them some recognition.

I agree that Jose wouldn't want any more videos coming out like the temper tantrum she threw when her parents last visited. If she'd only realize that her parents and brother are all she has. Her friends are gone, due to her own actions. When she's convicted, Jose will be gone. MOO

[AbbyNormal]

I agree that Jose wouldn't want any more videos coming out like the temper tantrum she threw when her parents last visited. If she'd only realize that her parents and brother are all she has. Her friends are gone, due to her own actions. When she's convicted, Jose will be gone. MOO
Casey loves things.
Casey uses people.
Casey learned her values from CA and GA.
jmo

[ttcRider]

My sister terri was married to George Anthony during the mid to late 70’s. They dated all through high school and married for about 5 years, of not so wonderful wedding bliss.
She can tell you that George Anthony was an habitual liar. He had to always fabricate his stories, constantly lying, that was the main reason they divorced.
George’s father Lee, owned and operated a very successful used car dealership for many years in Niles, Ohio, called Anthony’s Auto Sales, before retiring to Florida.
I wonder were George learned to lie so well. He was born in to it, litterally.
As they say, “Like father, like daughter.”
Give my sister a call and she’ll enlighten you of George Anthony’s dark, deceitful side evidently passed on to his daughter.
Her name now is Terri Vandervault, living in Niles, Ohio



Don't ask me where I got this...looked at to many sites...but is this accurate??? Was George married before???

Does anyone know how or where to look up marriage licenses???

OMG I near fell over reading this! I was thinking Rapunzel!! You are just telling us this NOW!! and then I read the rest of your post. :laugh:

[seeing_eye]

Everyone in this family lie so much, I am not able to tell when they are telling the truth, or when it is "business as usual" for them. At this point I tend to think 99% of everything they say is a lie and the 1% that is the truth is hidden so far below the surface I do not know when I hear or read it.
Julie

I've got a good rule of thumb to tell when any of the A's are lying. It's whenever their lips are moving, whenever their fingers are typing, or anytime they have a pen or pencil in their hands.

[imc_e]

OMG I near fell over reading this! I was thinking Rapunzel!! You are just telling us this NOW!! and then I read the rest of your post. :laugh:

:laugh: I was thinking the same thing!

I actually think its true too!

He was married before!

jmo

[imc_e]

Casey loves things.
Casey uses people.
Casey learned her values from CA and GA.
jmo

I agree!

Casey especially likes OPM.

Other Peoples Money.

Just like her parents!

[Julie Dupree]

I've got a good rule of thumb to tell when any of the A's are lying. It's whenever their lips are moving, whenever their fingers are typing, or anytime they have a pen or pencil in their hands.

Thanks s_e....I think you are right!!!
Julie

[anon-o-miss]

Hi everyone, Hope you or all having a very good day. Any news today? All I am hearing about is mj. I guess we will hear that to for the next two years or longer. I can;t believe g and c or staying of the tv. The lawyer may have told them it is time to be quite but still cindy don;t listen to anyone. I guess they or traveling around now that they don;t have to work any more just live of the money people or sending them. I don;t have any to send but if I did I sure would not send it to the a;s. casey would not have one dime in her jail acct.if it was left up to me. If they could prove she did not hurt Caylee that they had another person that killed Caylee then I might want to help her. I believe in helping anyone who needs help but not a killer and her family. I guess what bothers me the most is we will never know the truth about what happened to baby Caylee. anyone that would wait 31 days to tell their baby was missing is really not a mother.jmho
(bolding mine)
I'm wondering if they have some kind of exclusive deal with abc. In Dominic Casey's LE interview he mentioned ABC being at the Ritz Carlton dinner. I wonder if they are doing one of those shows that follows the case and the family through the trial? I also wonder if they are getting limited access to Casey on the promise it won't air till after until after the trial?

[AbbyNormal]

I agree!

Casey especially likes OPM.

Other Peoples Money.

Just like her parents!
OPM, perfect description of the A's addiction!

[anon-o-miss]

Remember when Cindy, George and Lee were advertising for non paid assistants??? :huh:
(snipped because I needed a smiley lol)

:lol: Sure do, and iIrc they had quite the list in the job description area. :laugh: *sigh* These folks are amaze za zing.

[kingfish]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Geranium
Came across this article, note the date listed. Would love to hear TM respond to their side of truth. KFN describes they collected fliers for Caylee, but during one of C.'s many interviews she talks about picking up fliers herself. IIRC she even talks about some others who were involved but don't remember anyone with KFN. JMHO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7674493/...hey-did-and-do


We were wondering about the boat because.......?????


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html

The Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to purchase the S.S. Caylee Marie, which is outfitted with the latest technology, including equipment some police forces do not possess. It will be used as an "extreme" search and rescue vessel.

"You can search a lake this size in just minutes rather than having to send divers in," Dennis Milstead of the Kid Finders Network said.

"We want to be an extension of the sheriff's office that can use the equipment he has here," George Anthony said.

George Anthony said the boat is now his life's work.

"I haven't been working since November of last year. I feel this is what I need to do. It's taken me 50 years to know what I should do with the rest of my life," George Anthony said.

He said the family is proud of the donations raised to fund the boat, but they hope they never have to use it.

[5boxersmom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Geranium
Came across this article, note the date listed. Would love to hear TM respond to their side of truth. KFN describes they collected fliers for Caylee, but during one of C.'s many interviews she talks about picking up fliers herself. IIRC she even talks about some others who were involved but don't remember anyone with KFN. JMHO

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7674493/...hey-did-and-do


We were wondering about the boat because.......?????


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html

The Kid Finders Network raised about $30,000 in donations to purchase the S.S. Caylee Marie, which is outfitted with the latest technology, including equipment some police forces do not possess. It will be used as an "extreme" search and rescue vessel.

"You can search a lake this size in just minutes rather than having to send divers in," Dennis Milstead of the Kid Finders Network said.

"We want to be an extension of the sheriff's office that can use the equipment he has here," George Anthony said.

George Anthony said the boat is now his life's work.

"I haven't been working since November of last year. I feel this is what I need to do. It's taken me 50 years to know what I should do with the rest of my life," George Anthony said.

He said the family is proud of the donations raised to fund the boat, but they hope they never have to use it.

My bold

Well that is so nice, considering there was a teenager missing in a Lake in Orange Co. when they were doing the LKL show. :rolleyes:

No mention of the boat being there.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19453299/detail.html


http://hubpages.com/hub/Cindy-and-George-Anthony-on-Larry-King-Live


Same date.

jmo

[AnniePie]

There is some info here:

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/george-anthonyan-ex-wife/


I did a search for Terri Vandervort not (Vandervault) and came up with this.

TERRY R VANDERVORT
Born 1951 Record Created: 10/2004
976 PARK AVE
NILES, OH 44446

What you do with this information is your business, but we went through all of this before. This woman was supposedly married to George for five years when she was young, and it was not a happy marriage. I'm sure she doesn't want to be associated with him in any way. Do any of you have past relationships that you'd like to have dug up a hundred years later? :thumbdown:

I say give her a break.

[enigma™]

(snipped to bold and address)
He said the family is proud of the donations raised to fund the boat, but they hope they never have to use it.

It would appear they made their wish come true. I have never heard of this boat going out to try to do a search or a rescue.
I just bet he is proud. If his murdering daughter makes him proud to be her father, why should the boat not have the same effect? :thumbdown:

[Julie Dupree]

This was posted on another thread...Since I know most of you are much more informed about this case than I am, probably you have had discussions about it in the past, but just in case you havent I wanted to past it along to you for your thoughts.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/20/cayleecasey-anthony-case-caylees-autopsy-revelations-part-i/#more-1919
Julie


The O Sign

A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.

However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.

Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________

This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?

[happygert]

This was posted on another thread...Since I know most of you are much more informed about this case than I am, probably you have had discussions about it in the past, but just in case you havent I wanted to past it along to you for your thoughts.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/20/cayleecasey-anthony-case-caylees-autopsy-revelations-part-i/#more-1919
Julie


The O Sign

A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.

However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.

Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________

This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?

IIRC it wasn't several strips.. It was wrapped around her nose, mouth and head..completely.. They had to cut hair to get duct tape.. I really cant see casey spending that much time taping her head after death.. Also remember Dr. Baden is Linda Kinney Baden's husband.. IMO he's spinning for the defense..

[imc_e]

Be careful posting any personal information on this forum..

:scared:

ETA: Im referring to the post about Georges first wife, name/addy.

[Julie Dupree]

IIRC it wasn't several strips.. It was wrapped around her nose, mouth and head..completely.. They had to cut hair to get duct tape.. I really cant see casey spending that much time taping her head after death.. Also remember Dr. Baden is Linda Kinney Baden's husband.. IMO he's spinning for the defense..

You might be right...I thought "Several overlapping pieces of duct tape, over the anterior portion of the lower skull, including mandible and a portion of the maxilla..." would be several strips..but maybe I did not understand the report right.
Julie

[imc_e]

I happen to really like this audio clip of a message Cindy left for Tim Miller on his phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7W9QRGo9Y&feature=player_embedded

:sneaky:

[seeing_eye]

[QUOTE=really3997;13276587][QUOTE=Rapunzel;13276541]

He wasn't a detective .. he just wanted to make him sound a little more important..IIRC he was a deputy sheriff...no detective..

I believe I read somewhere that the sheriff of the department where George worked also said George was a homicide detective - and of course, all officers of a sheriff's dept. are deputies regardless of their duties or rank within the department.

[mattncats]

I happen to really like this audio clip of a message Cindy left for Tim Miller on his phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7W9QRGo9Y&feature=player_embedded

:sneaky:

She says" I gave you medicine for your back." Well, now, Cindy is qualified to dispense pain meds to whomever? She shouldn't admit that, might be trouble.

[apothecary]

You might be right...I thought "Several overlapping pieces of duct tape, over the anterior portion of the lower skull, including mandible and a portion of the maxilla..." would be several strips..but maybe I did not understand the report right.
Julie
I have never been able to really understand the way the tape was applied by the autopsy description.Only a diagram or picture will explain.My thought is that she wrapped it around the head,but the autopsy description does not really say that.I find it hard to imagine
Casey taking the time to cut pieces and think that the tape survived the elements better because it was overlapped in one piece.

[imc_e]

She says" I gave you medicine for your back." Well, now, Cindy is qualified to dispense pain meds to whomever? She shouldn't admit that, might be trouble.

From what I recall in her medicine cabinet, she literally had a pharmacy.

Your right it is incriminating.

Poor Tim she treated him like garbage, accusing him of stealing the donation jar!

Truth is George stole the donated Staples supply, value approx. $1500.

JMO

[Sun]

I happen to really like this audio clip of a message Cindy left for Tim Miller on his phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7W9QRGo9Y&feature=player_embedded

:sneaky:

That is a scary, threatening Cindy. I wonder if Baez will attempt to use this and twist it? Twist it to say that Cindy was not going to let Casey take Caylee away from her?

[toadii]

IIRC it wasn't several strips.. It was wrapped around her nose, mouth and head..completely.. They had to cut hair to get duct tape.. I really cant see casey spending that much time taping her head after death.. Also remember Dr. Baden is Linda Kinney Baden's husband.. IMO he's spinning for the defense..

The last autospy report referred to "several layers". Both in scientific writing and proper grammar several means three or more.
I could not find a statement within the report that specifically stated that the tape was wrapped continuously around the head (insert here God grant you peace Caylee) only hair to hair, or if the tape was cut then layered. I guess that would be what the photos which were not released would illustrate. I hope there will another report specifically regarding an in depth examination of the duct tape that will clarify how many layers. We all know now that "Science is science, it's not 100%", however the report should have stated an exact number somewhere.
The chances are greater for leaving prints if the tape was torn multiple times, but Casey is lazy. My feeling is she used one piece, wrapped in a fit of great "frushstration" to silence and remove forever her child who she resented like a younger sibling and then she was free to pillow talk to Tone all through the night. I feel this is how she killed her. Just threw her in the trunk to die, out of sight out of mind, silenced for her to distract herself on the phone with Tone and la bella vita.

I think the sticker was placed shortly before she dumped her body, similair to preparing a deceased pet. Why she did this and why she added hearts to Caylee's on line photos only she knows...an attempt to say "Im sorry but you know it was not my fault, hugs and kisses, mom"? I have no clue.

[imc_e]

That is a scary, threatening Cindy. I wonder if Baez will attempt to use this and twist it? Twist it to say that Cindy was not going to let Casey take Caylee away from her?

He may.

All along its ALL about the money.

Cindy chased Tim Miller out of town, because she didn't want Caylee's body to be found, so she could accept donations!

The donation jar accusation- its about the money too.

All about the MONEY with Cindy Anthony.

OPM!

[101Spots]

This was posted on another thread...Since I know most of you are much more informed about this case than I am, probably you have had discussions about it in the past, but just in case you havent I wanted to past it along to you for your thoughts.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/20/cayleecasey-anthony-case-caylees-autopsy-revelations-part-i/#more-1919
Julie


The O Sign

A contributing poster at blinkoncrime gave me something to think about that had not occurred to me. I am on record stating I do believe that Casey Anthony murdered her daughter, and that she will end up pointing the finger at one or both of her parents as a defense strategy.

However, the duct tape never really fit for me. I have always believed it to be a post mortem tactic to stage a kidnapping. I do believe I may have been wrong. Very well known to medical and critical care professionals, there is something called an O effect; occurring at very near death, or shortly following death and before rigormortis sets in.

Some medical people refer to it when the person is very near death or has just died–the jaw drops open. Nothing left to hold the mandible shut. In morgue kits there is a strap that is applied around the jaw to gently close it before rigor sets in. This “O” sign can be very pronounced and unsettling to see first hand. Casey probably wasn’t aware of this and was really spooked by this silent scream and used the duct tape then put a heart sticker on it as a ________

This makes sense to me. The tape is applied in small strips across the nose and mouth areas, catching her hair in the face over the Coronal plane region. One interpretation that may be drawn is that Caylee was lying on her back, upon seeing what Casey had done to her child as evidenced by the relaxed mandible; she attempted to “fix her”. As if covering up the evidence of death on her baby would change things, complete with a heart sticker. No sooner did I arrive at this conclusion on Saturday, did I see Dr.Michael Baden appear on Geraldo Live on Sunday evening bringing up the mortuary kit issue. I am not saying this idea originated here, not that it would be the first time, but it at least tells me there is corroboration within the forensic Medical community as to the premise. The FBI report on the duct tape has not been released. One thing is certain, what I have been stating all along about Casey’s prints being on the duct tape seems foreboding. With multiple strips of tape, chances are there are several. The defense has had this report for months, is this why Casey Anthony retained Todd Macaluso?

MOO: Casey put the tape on Caylee before death. The O factor is immaterial in this case.

I don't trust this source, although it makes for interesting gossip.

[Julie Dupree]

The last autospy report referred to "several layers". Both in scientific writing and proper grammar several means three or more.
I could not find a statement within the report that specifically stated that the tape was wrapped continuously around the head (insert here God grant you peace Caylee) only hair to hair, or if the tape was cut then layered. I guess that would be what the photos which were not released would illustrate. I hope there will another report specifically regarding an in depth examination of the duct tape that will clarify how many layers. We all know now that "Science is science, it's not 100%", however the report should have stated an exact number somewhere.
The chances are greater for leaving prints if the tape was torn multiple times, but Casey is lazy. My feeling is she used one piece, wrapped in a fit of great "frushstration" to silence and remove forever her child who she resented like a younger sibling and then she was free to pillow talk to Tone all through the night. I feel this is how she killed her. Just threw her in the trunk to die, out of sight out of mind, silenced for her to distract herself on the phone with Tone and la bella vita.

I think the sticker was placed shortly before she dumped her body, similair to preparing a deceased pet. Why she did this and why she added hearts to Caylee's on line photos only she knows...an attempt to say "Im sorry but you know it was not my fault, hugs and kisses, mom"? I have no clue.

I think you have just made a brilliant observation...maybe Casey did look at Caylee as a "younger sibling...hummmm, I will have to ponder this.
Julie

[Sun]

He may.

All along its ALL about the money.

Cindy chased Tim Miller out of town, because she didn't want Caylee's body to be found, so she could accept donations!

The donation jar accusation- its about the money too.

All about the MONEY with Cindy Anthony.

OPM!

Absolutely! I agree with you, Cindy is driven by MONEY!