Tuesday July 7, Michael Jackson Memorial thread

[VC2]

Here we go all, a nice fresh thread to discuss the day.

[VC2]

Michael Jackson will create even more pandemonium in death than he did in life -- his body will take center stage at Tuesday's public memorial at the Staples Center in downtown L.A.

The family will hold a private memorial early in the morning at Forest Lawn -- where the body is now. The coffin will then be transported to Staples for what promises to be one of the biggest spectacles in L.A. history.
http://www.tmz.com/

I wonder if this is a bait and switch. The family has been seen arriving at forest lawn, perhaps they decided to do an empty coffin to staples, which might keep the swarm away from the fresh burial spot? Or was it in the trust?

[Scampi]

Like A Comet
Blazing 'Cross The Evening Sky
Gone Too Soon

Like A Rainbow
Fading In The Twinkling Of An Eye
Gone Too Soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6ry3BYInk

Rest in Peace, Michael.

[RootBeer]

http://www.tmz.com/

I wonder if this is a bait and switch. The family has been seen arriving at forest lawn, perhaps they decided to do an empty coffin to staples, which might keep the swarm away from the fresh burial spot? Or was it in the trust?

I sometimes wonder if MJ is really dead? (rootbeer runs and hides)

[Myka]

I sometimes wonder if MJ is really dead? (rootbeer runs and hides)

oh lord, now we'll have MJ sightings like we had all of those Elvis sightings back in the day!

[Scampi]

I sometimes wonder if MJ is really dead? (rootbeer runs and hides)

I'm sure there are many little wingnuts who claim to have Elvis in their attics, who also think Michael is still alive.


lol

[ahlou3]

VC, didn't see yours when I started another, sooooory. I sent a message already.

[Myka]

http://www.tmz.com/

I wonder if this is a bait and switch. The family has been seen arriving at forest lawn, perhaps they decided to do an empty coffin to staples, which might keep the swarm away from the fresh burial spot? Or was it in the trust?

I got the impression that his body will be at the Staples Center, which I think would be dumb to bring his body there.

It's going to be a mad house there. Even though the LAPD has streets blocked off, ppl will still flock to the Staples Center. I just hope they don't start a riot or something

[cassidy]

I'm sure there are many little wingnuts who claim to have Elvis in their attics, who also think Michael is still alive.


lol

YIKES...I think my daughter is a little wingnut..she thinks it's all a hoax. (but she doesn't claim to have him in her attic).

[ahlou3]

The Jackson family just announced everyone who will participate in tomorrow's memorial -- and here's the list:

Ron Boyd (family friend), Kobe Bryant, Mariah Carey, Andrae Crouch Choir, Berry Gordy, Jennifer Hudson, Shaheen Jafargholi (finalist on Britain's Got Talent), Magic Johnson, Martin Luther King III, Bernice A. King, John Mayer, Lionel Richie, Smokey Robinson, Rev. Al Sharpton, Brooke Shields, Pastor Lucious Smith (family friend), Usher and Stevie Wonder.[/SIZE]


tmz.com

We shall see a grand send off for a super-super star :thumbsup:

[VC2]

Like A Comet
Blazing 'Cross The Evening Sky
Gone Too Soon

Like A Rainbow
Fading In The Twinkling Of An Eye
Gone Too Soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6ry3BYInk

Rest in Peace, Michael.

that is beautiful scamp!

wry smile..he did one other amazing thing. He even brought people who were on both sides of his trial together in his death....

[VC2]

I got the impression that his body will be at the Staples Center, which I think would be dumb to bring his body there.

It's going to be a mad house there. Even though the LAPD has streets blocked off, ppl will still flock to the Staples Center. I just hope they don't start a riot or something

Myka i don't think it will be a problem. After watching his most die hard fans, many who were outside every day of his trial during a time when you might expect an angry emotion to burst out, they never did. They were respectful and i believe they will be this time too.

As far as the casket goes..so long its not seen being loaded and unloaded, which it won't, the family si being escorted by california highway patrol officers from Forest Lawn to Staples center, im not sure it will matter if its there on the drive.

I hope and believe that if its the choice of the family or of MJ himself, that it will be respected. Fans are going to be there anyway.

Has anyone heard of crowds yet?

[Scampi]

YIKES...I think my daughter is a little wingnut..she thinks it's all a hoax. (but she doesn't claim to have him in her attic).

Where DOES she claim to have him stashed? :wink:
Hiya Cass, nice to see you today.

[VC2]

tmz.com

We shall see a grand send off for a super-super star :thumbsup:

we sure shall!!! i got a chuckle out of one his people on the 02 tour saying if mj was here he would be "checking every camera and light angle" :laugh:

[PBJMOM4]

I got the impression that his body will be at the Staples Center, which I think would be dumb to bring his body there.

It's going to be a mad house there. Even though the LAPD has streets blocked off, ppl will still flock to the Staples Center. I just hope they don't start a riot or something

I think TMZ has that one wrong abotu bringing MJ's body to Staples,. at least that wasn't reported that way last night on most news stations. Then again, I did hear/read somewhere that the family was torn on parading MJ's coffin there so the public, much like Princess Diana's. Guess we'll have to sit and wait it out.

[ahlou3]

Does anyone know why Rev. Jesse Jackson is no longer in the picture? He was there for awhile then he faded and now he is not listed as a special guest.

[Scampi]

that is beautiful scamp!

wry smile..he did one other amazing thing. He even brought people who were on both sides of his trial together in his death....


He sure did!! Now, when we're on opposite sides of a future case, and you know we will be, I gots to be careful what I say and I hate that. :tongue:

[VC2]

300 police officers on the street now, and expect to have 3000 by the time of the memorial!!!!

[VC2]

He sure did!! Now, when we're on opposite sides of a future case, and you know we will be, I gots to be careful what I say and I hate that. :tongue:

:laugh: hahaha. i love it, bc of MJ you will have to bite your tongue :tonguewag: Yep we will be bc i am normally IUPG lol

[VC2]

Does anyone know why Rev. Jesse Jackson is no longer in the picture? He was there for awhile then he faded and now he is not listed as a special guest.

I don't know..they were fighting i remember that, al and jesse. Heard him on cnn with rick sanchez, had him and tom mesereau :wub: live yesterday afternoon, he was still saying that katerhine was the one who was executor so i think he has been out of the loop a little while.

IMO

[cassidy]

Where DOES she claim to have him stashed? :wink:
Hiya Cass, nice to see you today.

Morning Scamp! She doesn't have him stashed anywhere she thinks someone else does :)

[n/t]

Morning all!

I hope it'll be a memorable day for many around the world. I also hope it'll be a peaceful tribute for a very talented man. I'm sure emotions will run high but I pray it'll be done with class and respect for Michael.


RIP Michael. :rose:

[GentleBreeze]

300 police officers on the street now, and expect to have 3000 by the time of the memorial!!!!

I think the police and the security at Staples can handle whatever they are going to do. Believe me they have been going over the procedures since they knew the memorial is going to be held there.

When I stop and think about it.............it is really hard to realize that we will never see MJ preform anymore. That leaves me feeling very sad.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

Does anyone know why Rev. Jesse Jackson is no longer in the picture? He was there for awhile then he faded and now he is not listed as a special guest.

Fox just interviewed him and he was in front of the Staples Center, I believe. He is still is in contact with the family he said. So he will be there today.

imo

[Scampi]

Here is CNN's live stream in partnership with Facebook, shows fans signing the posterboards:


http://www.cnn.com/video/fb/facebook.html?stream=stream2

[VC2]

well i am off for eggs and milk and cat food, so tell me anything i mix.

Going to stick to cnn myself, hope others are watching fox and msnbc... we can hear about all the interesting things then

Thanks GB for the info of Jesse.

gah i have never gone to the store so early in my life

[RootBeer]

Morning Scamp! She doesn't have him stashed anywhere she thinks someone else does :)

Maybe Lisa Marie is hiding him at Graceland? j/k

[JHP]

Maybe Lisa Marie is hiding him at Graceland? j/k

Now thats an interesting concept:smile:. I wonder if Lisa Marie will be there?

[Scampi]

Now thats an interesting concept:smile:. I wonder if Lisa Marie will be there?

I am pretty sure I heard that Lisa Marie, Debbie Rowe and Liz Taylor will not be at the Memorial Service today.

[n/t]

I am pretty sure I heard that Lisa Marie, Debbie Rowe and Liz Taylor will not be at the Memorial Service today.

I guess Liz won't be there because of her health?

[ahlou3]

Found this it seems the surviving Jackson brothers may perform today.

Thanx for the info about Jesse Jackson. I know he was a friend of the family before Michael was born.

Who Will Perform at Michael Jackson's Memorial?
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20287787_20289631,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontentcnn&iref=werecommend

[cassidy]

The Today Show reported this as well. It doesn't seem like this is a memorial service. It's a circus with elephants. Who is paying for all this hoopla?

imo

the Staples Center memorial is geared towards Michaels fans. I'm sure advertising will more than pay for the event.

JMO

[GentleBreeze]

The Today Show reported this as well. It doesn't seem like this is a memorial service. It's a circus with elephants. Who is paying for all this hoopla?

imo

The elephants are there but I thought they said they would not be preforming for the circus until Wednesday.

Although MJ would have loved the circus, imo. He was a kid at heart anyway.

imo

[ahlou3]

The Today Show reported this as well. It doesn't seem like this is a memorial service. It's a circus with elephants. Who is paying for all this hoopla?

imo
I read the Circus was planned long before this.

The city and state will be making a mint off of this.....as will many private companies.

[n/t]

They reported on TMZ regarding her twittering that she will morn privately. She seems well enough to do other things. Personally, I think she dropped Michael as a friend a long time ago. imo

hmmm...it didn't sound like she dropped him as a friend from the statement she made when he passed away. She sounded devestated and heartbroken.

[GentleBreeze]

They reported on TMZ regarding her twittering that she will morn privately. She seems well enough to do other things. Personally, I think she dropped Michael as a friend a long time ago. imo

Oh I will never believe that. She has always remained by his side even in dark times in his life.

I think she truly and deeply loved him.

imo

[n/t]

Oh I will never believe that. She has always remained by his side even in dark times in his life.

I think she truly and deeply loved him.

imo

Yup. I agree.

[cassidy]

That includes all the police as well? I heard it will be us tax payers footing the bill. If that is the case that is not right. His estate that is currently generating money should pay for it all. imo

I believe the police coverage is on the taxpayers. Just part of living in LA I guess.

[GentleBreeze]

That includes all the police as well? I heard it will be us tax payers footing the bill. If that is the case that is not right. His estate that is currently generating money should pay for it all. imo

No one can touch that Estate. There is a lot of hearings to go through and decisions made and to be approved by the Judge.

Memphis handled over 30,000 people flooding in all around Graceland for three days and they maintained order. Although they did bring in 300 National Guard troops to assist. I am sure their police force was not near as large as what LA has.

Surely they can do crowd control today. The memorial isn't going to last all day.

Plenty of money will be made by the businesses there. After the memorial is over they will file out filling up restaurants, shopping and I imagine the motels/hotels are at full capacity.

imo

[mariah79]

They reported on TMZ regarding her twittering that she will morn privately. She seems well enough to do other things. Personally, I think she dropped Michael as a friend a long time ago. imo

Your last statement might hold some water if she didn't rush to the hospital right after she heard about his possible death.

[GentleBreeze]

hmmm...it didn't sound like she dropped him as a friend from the statement she made when he passed away. She sounded devastated and heartbroken.

I think Liz is taking his death very hard and Liz is not in the best of health either and has age on her. She probably felt since the press will be there like fleas that she may get hurt if there is any pushing and shoving and I certainly don't blame her. She has already had to be wheelchair bound before.

imo

[mariah79]

It is my opinion don't forget. I never heard she was brought to the hospital and haven't heard it on the news. She is well enough to twitter apparently. imo

Do you have to go to crowed places to twitter? From what I know you can twitter from you own bed. Heck even a bed in the hospital.

As far as not knowing about her going to the hospital the day MJ died it was all over the news local and national.

[VC2]

Ok i have got my blue smurf jammies on, diet coke, eggs and milk, lunch is made and i am all set.

What have i missed :D

[ahlou3]

TMZ stream showing cars leaving from the family home.

[mrsmcgoo]

Good Morning All!

From what I heard this morning on TV, I thought that Elizabeth Taylor wasn't going to be attending the memorial because she wanted to mourn MJ in private without all the whoopla.


JMO

[VC2]

I had a thought for Neverland on my way back from the store. One that SB might not fight as hard to stop, andwould fit MJ's wishes as well given what we know of him and the work he has done for kids. (intersting, a cashier there is in her 60's and i mentioned i was getting ready to watch the memorial, she said "oh its so sad, and the people who always wanted money and lied about him, they were bad ppl. Said Elvis was the King of Rock and MJ the King of Pop" so ppl are caring up here in canada)

Anyway, one of the things MJ loved it for and used it for was kids who were underpriveleged or had disabilities etc. If they turned it into a non profit holiday destination for kids who are ill, have cancer, underpriveleged, continuing the tours that MJ used to have all the time at neverland, for 6 months of the year and 6 months hold graceland style tours but with tourbuses staged in los olivas or santa barbara.

This way it would be for a good use, while at the same time allowing the estate to appreciate the rest of the year and keep things under control.

[RootBeer]

TMZ stream showing cars leaving from the family home.

Thanks, I am watching it now.

[ahlou3]

Thanks, I am watching it now.
YVW, see that Benz they are not lettting it move at least for now.

[PBJMOM4]

Here is CNN's live stream in partnership with Facebook, shows fans signing the posterboards:


http://www.cnn.com/video/fb/facebook.html?stream=stream2

Great link!! Thanks so much for posting!

[Scampi]

The Today Show reported this as well. It doesn't seem like this is a memorial service. It's a circus with elephants. Who is paying for all this hoopla?

imo

Oh, I think only a clown would view this as a "circus" most of us see it as a fond farewell to a performer that is beloved by millions all around the world.

:smile:

[VC2]

Wonder if MJ's father will get up and talk about his nameless record company he couldn't start while his son was alive? Wasn't that terrible what he did?

Shameless!

i am not sure if you are trying to or not, just thinking it would be nice if we tried to remember the good things not the bad today at least until the memorial is over. your posts have been suggesting ET dropped him as a friend and about Joe..

lots of ppl sad on the thread today imo,

[RootBeer]

YVW, see that Benz they are not lettting it move at least for now.

yeah, i was wondering who it might be?

[ahlou3]

i am not sure if you are trying to or not, just thinking it would be nice if we tried to remember the good things not the bad today at least until the memorial is over. your posts have been suggesting ET dropped him as a friend and about Joe..

lots of ppl sad on the thread today imo,
VC, I was thinking the same thing. I decided that I wouldn't answer until I knew if I was right or wrong.

[VC2]

I like your idea and it shows your heart is in the right place, but I think the property costs too much to run for it to ever be non profit. Some accounts have the figure at 10 million a year to maintain it.

Yes but if 6 months of it are Graceland style tours then that would probably make up the shortfall. Also, upkeep and costs could be a charitable tax credit for 6 months of year again offsetting costs. Also part of the 20% could be used as well for that.

Santa barbara would have the increased revenue from restaurants etc. and taxes, Neverland would then be used as it should be imo, i am convinced MJ would have returned after his concert tour. Apparently he was overwhelmed at the fact every date sold out and i don't mean bc of 50 dates..just amazed so many still wanted to see him.

Just thinking of a way that would allow SB some face if they allowed the zoning and no zoning change would be needed for the children's tours/camp.

eeeek i sound like sarah palin with all my also's. at least mine are at the start of the thought....eeek

[Scampi]

Good morning all :seeya:

It is being reported that Jermaine may possibly sing MJ's favorite song:

SMILE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AqzXzLY7W0

Morning Athie! God bless him, hope he can get thru it without breaking up. A very emotional song.

[ahlou3]

Good AM, Athena

That would be nice if Jermaine will sing. Just hope he can hold up from his interview he is taking this very hard. It's for sure he loved his brother very much.

[vagal]

Does anyone know if when the memorial starts on Tv if it will be commercial free? Thanks..

[vagal]

From TMZ

SWAT team to escort Michael to Staple Center after Memorial

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-lapd-funeral/

[dinojen]

Someone please explain to me why his body needs to be there...:confused:

With a contingency plan of using a helicopter if the swat team doesn't work.

Supposedly according to TMZ the body is going to be there.. and they haven't been too far off on anything so far..

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-lapd-funeral/

[Scampi]

Well, it appears TMZ got it right once again. Don Lemon of CNN just confirmed that Michael Jackson's body will be at the Memorial at Staple Center.

[cassidy]

Oh, I think only a clown would view this as a "circus" most of us see it as a fond farewell to a performer that is beloved by millions all around the world.

:smile:


Ohhh Scamp, I fear the circus has only just begun. :(

[dinojen]

Well, it appears TMZ got it right once again. Don Lemon of CNN just confirmed that Michael Jackson's body will be at the Memorial at Staple Center.

WHY? What is the purpose... I just can't figure it out... just more circus affect IMO.

One last complaint then I'll zip it.. This list of people that they have.. John Mayer, the singer from Britian's America's Got Talent, some of them just don't make sense to me.. wonder if Michael even knew Martin Luther King the III and his sister Bernice.. maybe he did... who knows.. this whole thing is just getting to be way out of hand. One thing to memorialize the man, remember his music and talents.. but swat teams bringing the body in.. singers that maybe he didn't even know. Just seems weird to me.

OK I'm done..

[Not Telling]

Yes but if 6 months of it are Graceland style tours then that would probably make up the shortfall. Also, upkeep and costs could be a charitable tax credit for 6 months of year again offsetting costs. Also part of the 20% could be used as well for that.

Santa barbara would have the increased revenue from restaurants etc. and taxes, Neverland would then be used as it should be imo, i am convinced MJ would have returned after his concert tour. Apparently he was overwhelmed at the fact every date sold out and i don't mean bc of 50 dates..just amazed so many still wanted to see him.

Just thinking of a way that would allow SB some face if they allowed the zoning and no zoning change would be needed for the children's tours/camp.

eeeek i sound like sarah palin with all my also's. at least mine are at the start of the thought....eeek


There's nothing there anymore... The house is empty, the grounds are empty, no amusement rides, no animals.... It would take many millions to replace everything that used to be there...

jmo

[mrsmcgoo]

She's probably appauled by it all. Wonder if MJ would be? Maybe they should have had a private memorial and all this hoopla in a few months? Just thinking. imo

I am not sure if she is appauled. It just sounded that she wants to do her mourning in private.

I think MJ would love the tribute.

[RootBeer]

Has anyone seen any reports about the number of tickets/wrist bands that were not claimed yesterday for today's event?

[VC2]

Well, it appears TMZ got it right once again. Don Lemon of CNN just confirmed that Michael Jackson's body will be at the Memorial at Staple Center.

It might go against conventional wisdom but i am very pleased at this.

I think that it will be a measure of closure for the fans, will stop the swarming of forest lawn-unfair to those who want to go see their loved ones there and also ..its an honor that Elvis had, Diana had. And MJ would like to be there imo.

Just heard something wonderful from a fan. Every fan who had tickets talked about how happy they are, but this one said:

"and for the Jackson family to put this together for the fans, while they are mourning, i just want to thank them" I am glad she got a ticket.

jmo

[mrsmcgoo]

I question whether it is safe to have MJ's body at the memorial!? I am very shocked that this is happening! :ohmy:

[GentleBreeze]

Wasn't she flying overseas to be at his first performance? It didn't sound to me like she had abandoned him.

Yes, I know she had to be so excited for him.

imo

[GentleBreeze]

I question whether it is safe to have MJ's body at the memorial!? I am very shocked that this is happening! :ohmy:

I think it will be fine. When Elvis died the security even let the fans come inside his home for the very first time to pass by his body in the Piano Room.

imo

[Scampi]

Fans hyped up at a concert by Michael Jackson is one thing, but people coming to this Memorial service in honor of a recently deceased Michael Jackson is another.

IMO, his fans are capable of observing this service with love and respect and I fully expect they will.

Those expecting a "circus" will be sorely disappointed, imo.

BTW, I believe it was decided that his body would be there so his fans could bid one last goodbye.

[mrsmcgoo]

Has anyone seen any reports about the number of tickets/wrist bands that were not claimed yesterday for today's event?


I haven't, but I just saw a woman who came from England and didn't have ticket. She stood on the road with a sign and a generous man stopped and offered her his other ticket. Thought that was a very kind thing to do, didn't take or ask for anything.

[VC2]

All I can say is wow. I thought they were going to lay him to rest prior to. I guess they will have strong security around him, but some of these fans are nuts. Saw an interview with one that said she wanted to crawl into his casket with him and quite sure there are probably others like her. :(

the fans won't get near it. However it will be cathartic for them to see it. Smart of the family to keep it completely hush hush until today.

It was handled with no problem in every single other high profile death from elvis to Reagan. MJ fans are like no other but they are also respectful. For example when he announced the O2 tour, there was no rushing of the stage, at the trial there was no rushing of him on the suv etc.

IMO MJ might have haunted them if he was not allowed to be at his own memorial :biggrin:

[Not Telling]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is an empty casket that is brought to the Staples Center... jmo

[VC2]

There's nothing there anymore... The house is empty, the grounds are empty, no amusement rides, no animals.... It would take many millions to replace everything that used to be there...

jmo


I read a quote from Barrack who heads teh consortium that owns Neverland with Jackson (24% for him), he said they are continuing with their restoration of Neverland so it seems to me the money is being spent anyway.

IMO

[GentleBreeze]

Fans hyped up at a concert by Michael Jackson is one thing, but people coming to this Memorial service in honor of a recently deceased Michael Jackson is another.

IMO, his fans are capable of observing this service with love and respect and I fully expect they will.

Those expecting a "circus" will be sorely disappointed, imo.

BTW, I believe it was decided that his body would be there so his fans could bid one last goodbye.

I think it is appropriate. Everyone knows what MJs fans meant to him. To cut him off from them now I don't believe MJ would want that.

Are they going to put his casket on that lift that is to the left of the stage?

imo

[VC2]

I haven't, but I just saw a woman who came from England and didn't have ticket. She stood on the road with a sign and a generous man stopped and offered her his other ticket. Thought that was a very kind thing to do, didn't take or ask for anything.

That was incredibly kind. What a gift to someone who wanted to go so badly she flew over. I have NO problem with those who give one away, i think the scalpers should be arrested and their tickets given to fans randomly, rather like this man did. May god bless his kindness.

[GentleBreeze]

the fans won't get near it. However it will be cathartic for them to see it. Smart of the family to keep it completely hush hush until today.

It was handled with no problem in every single other high profile death from elvis to Reagan. MJ fans are like no other but they are also respectful. For example when he announced the O2 tour, there was no rushing of the stage, at the trial there was no rushing of him on the suv etc.

IMO MJ might have haunted them if he was not allowed to be at his own memorial :biggrin:

I imagine the security inside the center will be tighter than what is being done outside. The ones that will be guarding him will probably have shoulders as wide as football players. lol I think it is appropriate and I am glad they are bringing him there.

imo

[Scampi]

I think it is appropriate. Everyone knows what MJs fans meant to him. To cut him off from them now I don't believe MJ would want that.

Are they going to put his casket on that lift that is to the left of the stage?

imo

I agree with this too Blue Eyes. I'm not seeing the stage, what channel are you viewing?

[VC2]

From TMZ

SWAT team to escort Michael to Staple Center after Memorial

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-lapd-funeral/

That will keep it safe. You know it might have to do iwth his children too. I think...if i remember back enough to be a child...perhaps they don't want to leave his side until the very very end of the celebration of his life but don't want to miss it either.

imo

[mrsmcgoo]

I think it will be fine. When Elvis died the security even let the fans come inside his home for the very first time to pass by his body in the Piano Room.

imo

I hope so.

I wonder if the children will attend the memorial? I am on the fence on whether they should go or not. I think they were aware of MJ's celebrity status and it might be something they can look back on and say," Wow, my Dad was loved by many. " That could be a good memory for them all their lives. On the other hand, they are young and have been isolated, this all could be way too much for them.

JMO

[Myka]

we know ther list of celebs that will be part of the memorial but has anyone heard of any celebs who are going to just attend the service at the Staples Center? The J family got alot of tickets too. I wonder who they handed them out to?

[mrsmcgoo]

That was incredibly kind. What a gift to someone who wanted to go so badly she flew over. I have NO problem with those who give one away, i think the scalpers should be arrested and their tickets given to fans randomly, rather like this man did. May god bless his kindness.


Yes, she was interviewed on NBC. That man's heart is certainly in the right place.

[Scampi]

I hope so.

I wonder if the children will attend the memorial? I am on the fence on whether they should go or not. I think they were aware of MJ's celebrity status and it might be something they can look back on and say," Wow, my Dad was loved by many. " That could be a good memory for them all their lives. On the other hand, they are young and have been isolated, this all could way too much for them.

JMO

They will be there and it would not surpise me if they participate is some manner. IMO

[GentleBreeze]

If it's a closed casket --then the purpose of him being there escapes me even more. LOL

Oh my gosh I think they will just be in awe to see that gold casket there knowing it is his.

How much does the casket weigh? IIRC, it is bronze with 24K overlay so it has got to be extremely heavy. I wonder if that is what that lift is going to be used for that is sitting on the left?

imo

[dinojen]

If it's a closed casket --then the purpose of him being there escapes me even more. LOL

Not being cold hearted but SWAT team.. or possibly fly him in.. how much more is this costing the city..

Yes I know.. vendors, merchants will make money.. that's great.. but the cost to a city that has no money.. and a state that is handing out IOU's..

Hopefully it goes off without any incidents and this poor man can finally be laid to rest.

I still don't see the purpose of the coffin, would much rather see video of pictures of him when he was alive than a 25K coffin. JMHO

Fox just reported this service could give the local economy a 4 million dollar boost... which is great for the merchants, hotels and such.. Just hate to think what the costs are to the city.. again jmo

[*Serenity*]

I suppose you probably are right. I am sure it will be well-secured. IIRC approximately 30,000 fans were allowed to viewed Elvis.

On a side note: they are putting huge screens on various buildings in NYC - the memorial just happens to be timed with lunch hours too!

I'm surprised PK hasn't tried to shut those down, seriously.
Maybe he is too scared to take on a larger crowd. LOL

[ahlou3]

Very, very kind of that man. He did what Michael would have done. Somehow I think we may hear more acts of kindness today.

Happy for that lady.

[*Serenity*]

Oh my gosh I think they will just be in awe to see that gold casket there knowing it is his.

How much does the casket weigh? IIRC, it is bronze with 24K overlay so it has got to be extremely heavy. I wonder if that is what that lift is going to be used for that is sitting on the left?

imo

Hi GB

Here is a photo of the casket. It is like the one James Brown had.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/02/michael-jacksons-25-000-custom-casket/print

[GentleBreeze]

I hope so.

I wonder if the children will attend the memorial? I am on the fence on whether they should go or not. I think they were aware of MJ's celebrity status and it might be something they can look back on and say," Wow, my Dad was loved by many. " That could be a good memory for them all their lives. On the other hand, they are young and have been isolated, this all could be way too much for them.

JMO

I agree. They need to see the love and admiration.

I expect they will be there right by Katherine's side and closely watched.

The poor little children knows though that everyone will be watching them like a hawk. I hate that.... it may make them uncomfortable where they feel they cant express the real grief they feel.:sad:

imo

[mrsmcgoo]

Not being cold hearted but SWAT team.. or possibly fly him in.. how much more is this costing the city..

Yes I know.. vendors, merchants will make money.. that's great.. but the cost to a city that has no money.. and a state that is handing out IOU's..

Hopefully it goes off without any incidents and this poor man can finally be laid to rest.

I still don't see the purpose of the coffin, would much rather see video of pictures of him when he was alive than a 25K coffin. JMHO

One of the shows this morning stated that this is a big boost to the city's finances. I am not sure of how the taxes are there, but could be the revenue from the extra money being spend will trickle down that way. Just a thought.

[VC2]

I suppose you probably are right. I am sure it will be well-secured. IIRC approximately 30,000 fans were allowed to viewed Elvis.

On a side note: they are putting huge screens on various buildings in NYC - the memorial just happens to be timed with lunch hours too!

Oh my!!! lots of late lunches i expect in NY today lol.

Athena, i know it seems shocking but i think its because we are not used to this since Princess Diana died and many of us were not alive or old enough to remember Elvis's send off.

It isn't as if they were putting the casket on top of an old station wagon and driving it through town without tight security. In the end i think it will be safer for everyone including his body/burial place. It also means that people who can't get into the staples center might get a glimpse of the procession allowing them a bit of closure too.

MJ's wishes, some family members wishes, and the fans needs are all being combined...i was really disappointed they would not allow the service to be played outside for the ones who spent all the money to be there even though i understood, partly because they would have no way to really say goodbye. This..the story will die down after today imo, at least for the fans. They can go home this afternoon knowing it is real, it is over, he has been honored. I don't even think he could have been buried in forest lawn safely unless somehow fans saw he was gone. Plus the last sight of him was in a shroud being helicoptered to the coroner, while the 2nd last image was him dead or close to dead by a tabloid. This will replace those images.

IMO

[*Serenity*]

I do believe that whether the casket is there or not, that Michael's spirit will be there enjoying every minute of it..The presence of the casket will only assist some fan's to visualize him..and have some semblance for closure..

Bottom line for me is MJ will be there, and be able to realize he indeed touch the world in so many ways..may he then RIP

With that, I must get ready for work and will miss the memorial..so for whatever its worth, please remember, my thoughts will be there to say good bye to the "Man of Many Faces"...

Salut MJ...Hope you find the Peace you so dearly wanted!!

LMS

I read a link yesterday where he stated he wanted a big funeral, even with fireworks. I'll try to remember where I read that, but for now I am just getting my brain to function. :)

[GentleBreeze]

Hi GB

Here is a photo of the casket. It is like the one James Brown had.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/02/michael-jacksons-25-000-custom-casket/print

Thank you. It looks extremely heavy.

imo

[CANDYKISSES]

Oh I will never believe that. She has always remained by his side even in dark times in his life.

I think she truly and deeply loved him.

imo

ITA GB, ET is not dumping MJ. I perceive her as suffering just like an aging parent for the love she shared with MJ and given her health and all the fans, I think it's best. JMO and two cents. :sad:

[VC2]

I do believe that whether the casket is there or not, that Michael's spirit will be there enjoying every minute of it..The presence of the casket will only assist some fan's to visualize him..and have some semblance for closure..

Bottom line for me is MJ will be there, and be able to realize he indeed touch the world in so many ways..may he then RIP

With that, I must get ready for work and will miss the memorial..so for whatever its worth, please remember, my thoughts will be there to say good bye to the "Man of Many Faces"...

Salut MJ...Hope you find the Peace you so dearly wanted!!

LMS

I am seeing so many acts of kindness on this board alone. Those whom may have different opinions of MJ the man being respectful and kind.

Your post was wonderful Lynda

[mrsmcgoo]

I agree. They need to see the love and admiration.

I expect they will be there right by Katherine's side and closely watched.

The poor little children knows though that everyone will be watching them like a hawk. I hate that.... it may make them uncomfortable where they feel they cant express the real grief they feel.:sad:

imo

I hope those little ones also have Grace, the Nanny with them and get tons of hugs from those around them today. Grace is like family to the children I am sure, being in their lives for so long.

:sad:

[VC2]

Maybe the casket will be brought in on one of the elephants.:rolleyes:

He would love it but no that won't happen and i know you were being sarcastic.

I did say yesterday though it would ensure security if he was brought in either between the elephant walk or on one in the middle of the other elephants. No one would be rushing those huge animals.

IMO

[dinojen]

One cable network.. can't remember which one I just read it on either CNN or MSNBC said Prince, Michael's oldest son could possibly do something as he was suppose to do it with his Dad on the tour.. it's still up in the air.. some family members are against it..


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31775551/ns/entertainment-gossip/

[GentleBreeze]

One of the shows this morning stated that this is a big boost to the city's finances. I am not sure of how the taxes are there, but could be the revenue from the extra money being spend will trickle down that way. Just a thought.

Yes, the city knows with all these people that have been grouping up in LA, more than just for the memorial but since his death, businesses are making money coming and going because of the influx.

imo

[Tokyo Rose]

I hope everyone will use their ignore list and not respond to baiters.

I hope you're not referring to me. My opinion is this is a circus and the taxpayers are footing the bill. I have a right to my opinion. I hope the children are not going to this. Poor things. jmo

[Scampi]

Oh my!!! lots of late lunches i expect in NY today lol.

Athena, i know it seems shocking but i think its because we are not used to this since Princess Diana died and many of us were not alive or old enough to remember Elvis's send off.

It isn't as if they were putting the casket on top of an old station wagon and driving it through town without tight security. In the end i think it will be safer for everyone including his body/burial place. It also means that people who can't get into the staples center might get a glimpse of the procession allowing them a bit of closure too.

MJ's wishes, some family members wishes, and the fans needs are all being combined...i was really disappointed they would not allow the service to be played outside for the ones who spent all the money to be there even though i understood, partly because they would have no way to really say goodbye. This..the story will die down after today imo, at least for the fans. They can go home this afternoon knowing it is real, it is over, he has been honored. I don't even think he could have been buried in forest lawn safely unless somehow fans saw he was gone. Plus the last sight of him was in a shroud being helicoptered to the coroner, while the 2nd last image was him dead or close to dead by a tabloid. This will replace those images.

IMO


Shades of the Griswald's on their vacation to Wally World.........lol. You sure know how to paint a visual VC.

What we are seeing is the new phenomenon of "E-grief." I think this will help people with their sad feelings today, being able to see this memorial and discuss it.

Larry King will have a show on the service tonight, with people who attended.

[GentleBreeze]

He would love it but no that won't happen and i know you were being sarcastic.

I did say yesterday though it would ensure security if he was brought in either between the elephant walk or on one in the middle of the other elephants. No one would be rushing those huge animals.

IMO

I thought it was very nice of B&B circus to give up one of their days for his memorial. They were suppose to start the circus performances today but agreed to put it off until tomorrow.

But you are right. MJ would have loved having the circus there.

imo

[mariah79]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is an empty casket that is brought to the Staples Center... jmo

I think that is what might happen since they are saying casket not body.

[*Serenity*]

Thank you. It looks extremely heavy.

imo

Here is the casket from Batesville, details. Nothing about weight, however it does have limited warranty. I posted about the warranty last week, not sure that Michael will be complaining much if something fails. And it has been factory tested. :)


This one is white, but the same casket.


http://www.casketsite.com/batesville/items/bronze/prometheanbronze.htm

[Ice Cycle]

Just was able to get on for the day and haven't been able to read it all, did they have his private funeral and was their a live link?

[truthdiscern]

I hope everyone will use their ignore list and not respond to baiters.
good advice Athena..difficult however because their level of ignorance and cruelty is astounding..the antithesis of MJ...where there is light there is also darkness and I need to keep reminding myself to not react ...
the talking heads on tv are equally stupid...sitting there analyzing and judging MJ..while their only claim to fame is that they are a momentary journalist or pundit...and their contribution to the world is minimal or nil...how does one do that?..or feel the right to do that?..its ridiculous..our culture is being reflected back to us..the good and the bad..but it is beyond me how tv sponsors are sucked into backing venom..it is not productive or conscious..frankly, i dont care what these people think..i hope their words come back to haunt them

[ish]

She wasn't there for him during his trial either. She had yet another excuse. You could still love someone and chose not to be a part of their lives anymore for whatever reason. MJ had a lot of problems don't forget. Not saying she isn't upset. imo

I agree, I wonder if Paul McCartney will attend. I think a lot of celebs will not be there. The strange stuff coming out about the probable cause of death is gonna make some of them stay away. It's one thing to be considered eccentric but this stuff with the anesthesia is too weird for many.

[GentleBreeze]

Just was able to get on for the day and haven't been able to read it all, did they have his private funeral and was their a live link?

I am not sure about the live link to the private funeral but the media is watching and they do say there seems to be a private service going on there with family and friends attending.

Then his casket will be moved to the Staples Center for the memorial.

imo

[VC2]

One cable network.. can't remember which one I just read it on either CNN or MSNBC said Prince, Michael's oldest son could possibly do something as he was suppose to do it with his Dad on the tour.. it's still up in the air.. some family members are against it..


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31775551/ns/entertainment-gossip/

i first typed "its not like granny of beverly hillbillies is putting his coffin on top of their rackety truck with jethro driving to bury him in the back country and driving it through the city" but changed it :blushing:

The oldest son imo is old enough to decide if he wants to. It might be good for him, to feel he helped honor his dads death and he had been practicing to do something on stage.

Remember kids often are at funerals and burials and some even speak at them. This might be the best time for him to do so because its a celelbration of his life. IMO they should leave it up to the child with a quick call to a reputable psychiatrist to double check. If they are there in the seats or one wants to sing a song...i doubt it changes their feelings on the death but might feel like they were a real part of saying goodbye to him.

[VC2]

Shades of the Griswald's on their vacation to Wally World.........lol. You sure know how to paint a visual VC.

What we are seeing is the new phenomenon of "E-grief." I think this will help people with their sad feelings today, being able to see this memorial and discuss it.

Larry King will have a show on the service tonight, with people who attended.

to be honest i feel much better knowing the casket will be there. I felt awful for the fans not having a chance to feel "near" him even if they couldn't be in the stadium and worried about a rush to forest lawn

[GentleBreeze]

good advice Athena..difficult however because their level of ignorance and cruelty is astounding..the antithesis of MJ...where there is light there is also darkness and I need to keep reminding myself to not react ...
the talking heads on tv are equally stupid...sitting there analyzing and judging MJ..while their only claim to fame is that they are a momentary journalist or pundit...and their contribution to the world is minimal or nil...how does one do that?..or feel the right to do that?..its ridiculous..our culture is being reflected back to us..the good and the bad..but it is beyond me how tv sponsors are sucked into backing venom..it is not productive or conscious..frankly, i don't care what these people think..i hope their words come back to haunt them

Excellent post.

ITA!

It seems they will sell their souls to the devil for the almighty dollar and ratings.

imo

[*Serenity*]

I hope everyone will use their ignore list and not respond to baiters.

The report to moderator seems to work just as well. :)

[Ice Cycle]

I am not sure about the live link to the private funeral but the media is watching and they do say there seems to be a private service going on there with family and friends attending.

Then his casket will be moved to the Staples Center for the memorial.

imo

Thanks, I did find one though, it is of earlier but that's ok.

[FallenAngel♥]

to be honest i feel much better knowing the casket will be there. I felt awful for the fans not having a chance to feel "near" him even if they couldn't be in the stadium and worried about a rush to forest lawn

I agree... I just hope they keep the casket closed.

[VC2]

The caravan has left the Encino home.

sighs..it really is over. Never again will we see him dance live or song. MSNBC has a wonderful "blurb" with some of his singing and a picture of him both younger and now after they return from a break.

made me cry.

i see they shut down the highway for the families caravan

[CANDYKISSES]

There were many journalists' careers that were enhanced on the back of MJ too!

Indeed there was Athena. I think Diana Ross and Elizabeth Taylor were almost like surrogates for Michael throughout his adult life and it's sad to see them being the butt of jokes for a few. ET is right about MJ knowing her love for him transcending the here and now. I hope he will finally get some PEACE in the afterlife. I have always thought of him as a musical genius stunted by a tragic childhood of abuse. JMO tho. :sad:

His talent is UNDENIABLE no matter how much some want to dismiss him.

RIP MICHAEL! :rose:

[ish]

I hope you're not referring to me. My opinion is this is a circus and the taxpayers are footing the bill. I have a right to my opinion. I hope the children are not going to this. Poor things. jmo

I think his family will be very happy to have it as circus like as possible, the more interest in Michael, the more money into his estate. He has I'm sure been supporting a lot of his family and they will continue to be supported by him long after his death.

Look at his dad, he is already promoting his own agenda and money making deals. And if he can find a way to exploit the children he will do that also. Katherine wasn't able to protect Michael from all the abuse he alleges Joe piled on him, it was only when Michael had the upper hand in terms of controlling Joe with money that things changed. With Michael gone Joe will find a way to weasel back in. If Katherine really wanted him gone why not divorce him? It will be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next couple of years. I see a lot of internal family strife.

[*Serenity*]

Family motorcade being televised - on its way to Staples Center


Hi Athena

What live stream are you watching?
TMZ states they are going to Forest Lawn.

Can we say conflicting reports remain front and center? :(

[VC2]

just said a few tickets were not picked up but they are being given out :)

That is great.

[FallenAngel♥]

Family motorcade being televised - on its way to Staples Center

I thought they were going to the funeral home for the private funeral first?

[lilismom]

I agree, I wonder if Paul McCartney will attend. I think a lot of celebs will not be there. The strange stuff coming out about the probable cause of death is gonna make some of them stay away. It's one thing to be considered eccentric but this stuff with the anesthesia is too weird for many.

I don't think that is what will keep the big name celebs away. The enormity of it, the crowds, the need for and/or lack of security etc. At this point, today, it doesn't/shouldn't matter how he died. At least to me it doesn't. Sad, sad day. And, its my birthday. :(

RIP Michael - soon.

IMO,
Lilismom

[*Serenity*]

I thought they were going to the funeral home for the private funeral first?

That's what I thought also. TMZ is stating Forest Lawn.
The family did gather there last night so they may be keeping
everything 'hush' from the media.

:shrug:

[*Serenity*]

I don't think that is what will keep the big name celebs away. The enormity of it, the crowds, the need for and/or lack of security etc. At this point, today, it doesn't/shouldn't matter how he died. At least to me it doesn't. Sad, sad day. And, its my birthday. :(

RIP Michael - soon.

IMO,
Lilismom


Hi Lili

Circle of life... hey?
Celebrating a life that has passed, and celebrating the life you have.
Happy Birthday and have a blessed day.

:)

[VC2]

Indeed there was Athena. I think Diana Ross and Elizabeth Taylor were almost like surrogates for Michael throughout his adult life and it's sad to see them being the butt of jokes for a few. ET is right about MJ knowing her love for him transcending the here and now. I hope he will finally get some PEACE in the afterlife. I have always thought of him as a musical genius stunted by a tragic childhood of abuse. JMO tho. :sad:

His talent is UNDENIABLE no matter how much some want to dismiss him.

RIP MICHAEL! :rose:

Hugs Candy! it sure is. they have beautiful images of MJ up on the jumbotrons

[Not Telling]

Here is the casket from Batesville, details. Nothing about weight, however it does have limited warranty. I posted about the warranty last week, not sure that Michael will be complaining much if something fails. And it has been factory tested. :)


This one is white, but the same casket.


http://www.casketsite.com/batesville/items/bronze/prometheanbronze.htm


The warranty covering the seal of the casket is more for the peace of mind of the loved ones....

[Scampi]

Conflicting reports about where the limo line is headed, I think they are going to Forest Lawn, to pick up the hearse bearing Michael's body. No one will get out of their cars, the hearse will just lead everyone down to Staples.

[Tokyo Rose]

There is a live stream on TMZ if anyone is interested. Right now the procession is on.

[CANDYKISSES]

I don't think that is what will keep the big name celebs away. The enormity of it, the crowds, the need for and/or lack of security etc. At this point, today, it doesn't/shouldn't matter how he died. At least to me it doesn't. Sad, sad day. And, its my birthday. :(

RIP Michael - soon.

IMO,
Lilismom

Sorry it fell on your BD Lilismom, but FWIW, I hope you are able to enjoy some of the day. :wub:

I don't think the people/celebs who felt touched by and/or close to Michael will be running from bad press. JMO tho. I've seen some pretty shocking stories about how Michael touched the lives of the rich and poor. I continue to pray he has finally escaped the torture he endured while in the flesh and will move into a whole new level while he rests in peace and his many fans pay tribute in a plethora of different ways. I liked what Madonna opened with the night before last. JMO

[Not Telling]

The family has arrived at Forest Lawn....

[lilismom]

Hi Lili

Circle of life... hey?
Celebrating a life that has passed, and celebrating the life you have.
Happy Birthday and have a blessed day.

:)

Thanks! Circle of life indeed. Listening to MJ on AOL radio. PYT - Pretty Young Thing. Yep, that's me! :)

Can't bring myself to watch the coverage here at work. Too sad to view at the office :(.

IMO,
Lilismom

[*Serenity*]

The warranty covering the seal of the casket is more for the peace of mind of the loved ones....

Yea... pretty much like the vaults for the caskets. I'm sure they also chose a top of the line vault, but haven't heard about the vault yet.

[RootBeer]

I love cemeteries! Just wanted to say that.

[CANDYKISSES]

Hugs Candy! it sure is. they have beautiful images of MJ up on the jumbotrons

XOXO to you VC. I am wondering if it's really just family in the black tour buses going to the cemetary? I would think there could be a few exceptions, but maybe it's Jackson family only. :crying: It certainly brings a sense of finality to this past week of revisiting the past three decades and then some. :blushing: Showing my age here, but I grew up on the Jacksons and feel so bad for all of the children born to Katherine and Joe. JMO tho. :wub:

[lilismom]

Sorry it fell on your BD Lilismom, but FWIW, I hope you are able to enjoy some of the day. :wub:

I don't think the people/celebs who felt touched by and/or close to Michael will be running from bad press. JMO tho. I've seen some pretty shocking stories about how Michael touched the lives of the rich and poor. I continue to pray he has finally escaped the torture he endured while in the flesh and will move into a whole new level while he rests in peace and his many fans pay tribute in a plethora of different ways. I liked what Madonna opened with the night before last. JMO


Thanks. Signed the Will and is being laid to rest on my BD. 7 years to the day. :( So sad. Its all good though, my DD is here at the office with me today!

I agree. I think everyone who knew and loved Michael WANTS to be there - it doesn't mean they can.

IMO,
Lilismom

[FallenAngel♥]

awwwwwwww Paris looks so cute today


God bless those babies :rose:

[Ice Cycle]

Several sites have it live stream. Happy B Lil.

http://abcnews.go.com/entertainment/michaeljackson/

http://www.tmz.com/

CNN's live stream is to Staples

[Scampi]

I believe I saw Paris and Prince, but did anyone see Blanket?

[GentleBreeze]

It might go against conventional wisdom but i am very pleased at this.

I think that it will be a measure of closure for the fans, will stop the swarming of forest lawn-unfair to those who want to go see their loved ones there and also ..its an honor that Elvis had, Diana had. And MJ would like to be there imo.

Just heard something wonderful from a fan. Every fan who had tickets talked about how happy they are, but this one said:

"and for the Jackson family to put this together for the fans, while they are mourning, i just want to thank them" I am glad she got a ticket.

jmo

Actually it doesnt seem odd at all. To have a public service but not have the casket there seems odd to me especially when he has not been buried yet.

imo

[mrsmcgoo]

I believe I saw Paris and Prince, but did anyone see Blanket?

Hi Scamp, are you watching on TV or computer?

They are beautiful children...:crying:

[FallenAngel♥]

wow i didn't realize the Hall of Liberty has 1200 seats

http://www.forestlawn.com/Special-Events-And-Facilities/Hall-Of-Liberty.asp

[FallenAngel♥]

I believe I saw Paris and Prince, but did anyone see Blanket?

I didn't see him but they were moving fast.

[CANDYKISSES]

awwwwwwww Paris looks so cute today


God bless those babies :rose:

Hi FA, where are you viewing that showed the children? TIA

[Tokyo Rose]

Does anyone know if they will transport the body from the Staples center back to the cemetery for burial after the public memorial? I suppose they will have to. jmo

[boo]

wow i didn't realize the Hall of Liberty has 1200 seats

http://www.forestlawn.com/Special-Events-And-Facilities/Hall-Of-Liberty.asp

OMG, is that where they are? I was just there for my daughter's middle school graduation, and the place is very large and very nice. I was shocked when she told me that her graduation was at Forest Lawn. My father is buried there and both my inlaws are there as well. Guess I better get used to the crowds now, as it has officially begun.

[Scampi]

Hi Scamp, are you watching on TV or computer?

They are beautiful children...:crying:

I'm watching CNN, but Athie confirmed Blanket is there. Everyone is dressed so somberly, I can't help but think Michael is looking down and thinking "just one sequin would have been a nice touch!" :smile:

This service is going to be dignified and classy, imo.

[FallenAngel♥]

Hi FA, where are you viewing that showed the children? TIA

TMZ.com

and on tv. i'm watching MSNBC

[lilismom]

I'm watching CNN, but Athie confirmed Blanket is there. Everyone is dressed so somberly, I can't help but think Michael is looking down and thinking "just one sequin would have been a nice touch!" :smile:

This service is going to be dignified and classy, imo.

Maybe they're all wearing white glitter socks?

Gone Too Soon on now. :(

IMO,
Lilismom

[FallenAngel♥]

I'm watching CNN, but Athie confirmed Blanket is there. Everyone is dressed so somberly, I can't help but think Michael is looking down and thinking "just one sequin would have been a nice touch!" :smile:

This service is going to be dignified and classy, imo.

all dressed somberly but i loved Paris's little dress she had on.......

[Tokyo Rose]

A parade of police on horse back arriving for crowd control. Very nice entrance. Crowd gathered around watching. jmo

[mrsmcgoo]

I'm watching CNN, but Athie confirmed Blanket is there. Everyone is dressed so somberly, I can't help but think Michael is looking down and thinking "just one sequin would have been a nice touch!" :smile:

This service is going to be dignified and classy, imo.


Thanks! I was still watching NBC and missed that, but am sure they will be showing those pics later on, probably on LKL.

I hope things go smoothly, and with class today.

I am a bit surprised that Lisa Marie is not going. I would have thought she would have been there.

[CANDYKISSES]

Maybe they're all wearing white glitter socks?

Gone Too Soon on now. :(

IMO,
Lilismom


I hope maybe his siblings will have something like that on in honor of their brother who is truly GONE TOO SOON IMOO. :crying: I hope today is a good day for the whole family and that civility carries the day. :thumbup:

[FallenAngel♥]

Ryan Seacrest said on Celeb Tweet that he just heard michael jackson will be getting a crater on the moon named after him :ohmy:

opps forgot to put the link


http://celebritytweet.com/RyanSeacrest/

[Scampi]

all dressed somberly but i loved Paris's little dress she had on.......

Hey girl!! Yes, she looks like a sweet angel in that dress.

[lilismom]

Thanks! I was still watching NBC and missed that, but am sure they will be showing those pics later on, probably on LKL.

I hope things go smoothly, and with class today.

I am a bit surprised that Lisa Marie is not going. I would have thought she would have been there.

Maybe she just can't? Maybe she feels like her presence would take something away from it? Although, I dunno, I don't think today there will be a bigger star in the room than Michael.

IMO,
Lilismom

[VC2]

I was meant to go pick up some furniture from my parents cottage today and cancelled it to watch. I wondered if i should but now i am so glad i have.

This is beautiful and i have to give such thanks to the family for allowing the world to share in the goodbyes and be a part of it.

Thanks should go to Ringling Brothers circle as well, they gave up one day to allow the stage to be returned to AEG. And i thank AEG for holding it at both staples and nokia.

Once neverland was out, it is so fitting that it be held on the stage that he last danced on as msnbc just reminded us.

sighs.

[*Serenity*]

The memorial program appears to be awesome, shown on CNN.

[Tokyo Rose]

I want a copy of that program Don Lemon is showing !!!! :angry:

Check ebay later today.

[CANDYKISSES]

Maybe she just can't? Maybe she feels like her presence would take something away from it? Although, I dunno, I don't think today there will be a bigger star in the room than Michael.

IMO,
Lilismom

I think she has been a bit removed since the birth of the twins and am just guessing she might be enjoying it with no real tabloid battles. I can understand her reluctance to get them fired up again and am a believer in personal choices with regard to death.

We all know what we share with another human being and one day is not going to change that either way if you believe in what you shared with someone else on this earth. But that is JMO again. :wink:

[Scampi]

A parade of police on horse back arriving for crowd control. Very nice entrance. Crowd gathered around watching. jmo

As someone who stood next to an officer on horseback, while protesting at the White House in my rebellious youth, I can tell you first hand they are intimidating! lol


:seeya:

[*Serenity*]

I want a copy of that program Don Lemon is showing !!!! :angry:

Me tooooooo.....!!! :)
They could sell those, I would buy one in a heartbeat.

[lilismom]

I think she has been a bit removed since the birth of the twins and am just guessing she might be enjoying it with no real tabloid battles. I can understand her reluctance to get them fired up again and am a believer in personal choices with regard to death.

We all know what we share with another human being and one day is not going to change that either way if you believe in what you shared with someone else on this earth. But that is JMO again. :wink:

Agreed and well said. I am sure she's honoring him in her own way.

IMO,
Lilismom

[Tokyo Rose]

As someone who stood next to an officer on horseback, while protesting at the White House in my rebellious youth, I can tell you first hand they are intimidating! lol


:seeya:

Hi Scamp:seeya:

Well suited for crowd control.

[VC2]

Maybe she just can't? Maybe she feels like her presence would take something away from it? Although, I dunno, I don't think today there will be a bigger star in the room than Michael.

IMO,
Lilismom

i think Lisa Marie like Elizabeth Taylor needs privacy to grieve especially LMP. Her touching post on her blog about MJ and their marriage and her saddness at his death she must be in a tumult.

More importantly we can't forget that this will bring all of the memories of her dad's death back.

[mrsmcgoo]

Maybe she just can't? Maybe she feels like her presence would take something away from it? Although, I dunno, I don't think today there will be a bigger star in the room than Michael.

IMO,
Lilismom


Yes, probably so. I think as with Elizabeth Taylor, because certain people are not there, doesn't mean they are not in spirit.

Hearing lots of music today. I keep hearing songs and thinking, oh yeah, that song...I loved that song. lol

[VC2]

ok thats it, i won't watch msnbc's coverage after Dan Abrams comments. there are times to discuss things and times not to. Also ways to say things on the day of someone's memorial and ways not to. Abrams was wrong imo.

[lilismom]

Yes, probably so. I think as with Elizabeth Taylor, because certain people are not there, doesn't mean they are not in spirit.

Hearing lots of music today. I keep hearing songs and thinking, oh yeah, that song...I loved that song. lol

Right.

The first weekend after his death radio stations were playing him non-stop. I drove to the shore. We listened to MJ all the way and thought "there wasn't one song we didn't know and love". I, like so many others here, grew up with Michael Jackson. Not necessarily the Jacksons but Michael Jackson. He is our Elvis.

IMO,
Lilismom

[FallenAngel♥]

ok thats it, i won't watch msnbc's coverage after Dan Abrams comments. there are times to discuss things and times not to. Also ways to say things on the day of someone's memorial and ways not to. Abrams was wrong imo.

what did he say? i missed it....i'm watching the beginning of the View real quick. Whoopi's talking about she talked to MJ two weeks ago.

[mrsmcgoo]

Right.

The first weekend after his death radio stations were playing him non-stop. I drove to the shore. We listened to MJ all the way and thought "there wasn't one song we didn't know and love". I, like so many others here, grew up with Michael Jackson. Not necessarily the Jacksons but Michael Jackson. He is our Elvis.

IMO,
Lilismom

I forgot how many hits he had really. :crying:

[FallenAngel♥]

that casket doesn't look Gold to me.

[FallenAngel♥]

Ok go Gold or Glass casket.............no horse drawn carriage........This is just WAY too normal for MJ. :ohmy:

[Scampi]

CNN showing the casket being rolled out to the waiting limo. There are gorgeous red flowers (roses) on the top of it.

[Tokyo Rose]

that casket doesn't look Gold to me.

Yes, it's gold and covered with beautiful red flowers.

[ScoobyDoo]

ok thats it, i won't watch msnbc's coverage after Dan Abrams comments. there are times to discuss things and times not to. Also ways to say things on the day of someone's memorial and ways not to. Abrams was wrong imo.

And then to have Gloria Allred. I was thinking what the heck? Of all the people who shouldn't be there, or on tv spouting her mouth, it is her.

imo...of course.

[Grayson]

I have to say, I am an admirere of Michael Jackson. The fans support and to see and hear the outpour of emotions form fans, the Jacksonfamily, and Michael Jackson''s freinds, has been really touching. HIs personal life frought with controversy. I have to say, that seeing thease tributes ontv has made me sing and dance in a way I haven't for a while. He will bemissed, he really was the King Of Pop.

[FallenAngel♥]

Yes, it's gold and covered with beautiful red flowers.

i thought it was black

[lilismom]

Happy Birthday lilismom !!! MJ would want you to enjoy it !! :)

Thanks Athena! I am enjoying it so far. Listening to MJ. Boss is away. Working a 1/2 day. My DD is here with me. All good.

The way you make me feel is on now. What a great song and a great video!

IMO,
Lilismom

[VC2]

The casket looked beautiful! :(

[FallenAngel♥]

Definitely gold !!!

sorry i must have saw it wrong........i'm watching it online at TMZ

[Scampi]

i thought it was black

I think it appeared black because it was reflecting the black limo in front of it.

Congratulations Athie!! :thumbsup:

Headline News is covering this very respectfully, as is CNN.

[FallenAngel♥]

Ok i just saw it again and YEP it's Gold...............:thumbsup:

[mrsmcgoo]

Yep and I just bought it :tonguewag:

Seller:
unifiedac ( 18 [Feedback score is 10 to 49] )

Contact seller
Paid on Jul-07-09 via PayPal


Official Michael Jackson Memorial Service Program
290329605356 - Price: US $19.95
Quantity:1

WTG!

I tried to get one for my Sister-In-Law, but it doesn't specify shipping to Canada. Would make a great Christmas or Birthday gift for MJ fans.

[Brattnt]

Here is a link to what kind of casket Michael has...

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/02/michael-jacksons-25-000-custom-casket/


Good mornin friends....Such a sad day today....:crying:

[FallenAngel♥]

I think it appeared black because it was reflecting the black limo in front of it.

Congratulations Athie!! :thumbsup:

Headline News is covering this very respectfully, as is CNN.

Yep it's Gold....I'm glad ....I really glad. I want this to be over the top like MJ. Plain Jane is just NOT MJ

but i must admit i'm glad he's not in the glass coffin thing. those always creep me out.

[VC2]

what did he say? i missed it....i'm watching the beginning of the View real quick. Whoopi's talking about she talked to MJ two weeks ago.

it was about the trial but more how he said it. that "legally acquitted" but we who followed it got to see all the evidence and all the videos and will remember that more.

and apparently gloria alred on right after. No. there can do that tomorrow.

Each station did mention some of the questions and controversies including the trial but not in an offensive way. Msnbc went over that line considering its smack in the middle of the memorial, the viewing and his body brouyght out.

IMO

[lilismom]

The Girl is Mine.

I think I told you....I'm a lover not a fighter.

So sad.

IMO,
Lilismom

[VC2]

Yep and I just bought it :tonguewag:

Seller:
unifiedac ( 18 [Feedback score is 10 to 49] )

Contact seller
Paid on Jul-07-09 via PayPal


Official Michael Jackson Memorial Service Program
290329605356 - Price: US $19.95
Quantity:1

I wish i could get one, but on disability that 20 dollars cant be used for it :(

Lucky you athena!!!! it was a reasonable price too

[FallenAngel♥]

it was about the trial but more how he said it. that "legally acquitted" but we who followed it got to see all the evidence and all the videos and will remember that more.

and apparently gloria alred on right after. No. there can do that tomorrow.

Each station did mention some of the questions and controversies including the trial but not in an offensive way. Msnbc went over that line considering its smack in the middle of the memorial, the viewing and his body brouyght out.

IMO

IMO now's just not the time to talk about the trial or anything negative in his life. He brought happiness and joy to MILLIONS of people and for that today would should celebrate.

[mrsmcgoo]

Send an email to the seller. Maybe he'll make an exception - think it said he has 9 left

Yep, already done! My SIL would die if she got one of those! I'd be in the good books FOREVER!! lol

[Tokyo Rose]

I wish i could get one, but on disability that 20 dollars cant be used for it :(

Lucky you athena!!!! it was a reasonable price too

Things like that end up stored in a box somewhere and collect dust ect. I've found that out the hard way over the years.

I have a lot of money laying in boxes and never looked at. jmo

[MoonHarvest]

Good Morning fellow posters.

Before I go thru all of this thread can someone kindly tell me: was Michael buried? I imagine he has been. Have not turned the telly on since last nite.

[FallenAngel♥]

MSNBC just said the "casket" will be at the memorial but there is no proof the body is in there...............WTH. why are they starting rumors like that?

[mrsmcgoo]

I hope they are right about Lionel Ritchie gathering the other singers at the service to sing "We Are The World".

[Tokyo Rose]

MSNBC just said the "casket" will be at the memorial but there is no proof the body is in there...............WTH. why are they starting rumors like that?

Of course the body is in there. Geez!!! jmo

Very dignified hearse.

[MoonHarvest]

Oh I see Michael in the hearse. I know Ima going to be crying. : (

[MoonHarvest]

Afternoon MH :)

Not yet. He is being taken to Staples Center.

Hi Athena, I think it's right and good that he will be there for this celebration. It's too darn bad he didn't know just how valued he was before he died.

[FallenAngel♥]

Of course the body is in there. Geez!!! jmo

Very dignified hearse.

well duh...but MSNBC was saying they can not confirm MJ's in the casket.

IMO MJ's in the casket.........and i would not be shocked if they opened the casket.

[FallenAngel♥]

I hope they are right about Lionel Ritchie gathering the other singers at the service to sing "We Are The World".

OMG now that will make me cry :crying:

[Scampi]

Good Morning fellow posters.

Before I go thru all of this thread can someone kindly tell me: was Michael buried? I imagine he has been. Have not turned the telly on since last nite.

Oh Moonie, do you have a surprise in store...lol.


:seeya:

[MoonHarvest]

Yes -- sounds like it will be the closing. I can tell you right now Jennifer Hudson is going to make me cry !!!


Jennifer sure has learned about death and departing from love ones too early. : (

[MoonHarvest]

Oh Moonie, do you have a surprise in store...lol.


:seeya:

Tell me Scampi, what?

[MoonHarvest]

well duh...but MSNBC was saying they can not confirm MJ's in the casket.

IMO MJ's in the casket.........and i would not be shocked if they opened the casket.

They don't need to confirm, leave it alone..imo.

[FallenAngel♥]

TMZ must have heard what MSNBC said.


There are various news reports that Michael Jackson's body is not in the casket -- absolutely not true.


Our sources -- who know -- say 100% Jackson's body is in the coffin that is being taken to Staples Center.


http://www.tmz.com/

[grammie/va]

I hope they are right about Lionel Ritchie gathering the other singers at the service to sing "We Are The World".

This is one of the songs that I love, and gone too soon

[FallenAngel♥]

They don't need to confirm, leave it alone..imo.

i'm just reporting what's on tv.......

[Dunlurken]

Strangest thing I've ever seen..... My grand daughter is eating lunch. I always let her was a movie on DVD. She picked Peter Pan! One smart grandchild.

[BorderCollieMom]

I think CNN is doing a pretty good job. :)

Hello everyone. Is CNN the best coverage so far ? Just woke up.
Am I the only one that feels all kinds of emotions today ? Ive been so sad since MJ passed....its brought back soooooo many happy memories for me though. Sad, Happy, etc....My first tap dance to Rockin' Robin.

:(

[MoonHarvest]

i'm just reporting what's on tv.......

Oh I knew that.

[FallenAngel♥]

Jennifer sure has learned about death and departing from love ones too early. : (

Very true but she's got a new baby on the way...:wub:

[Scampi]

Tell me Scampi, what?

You already know Moonie, Michael will be at the Staple Center.

I do think he is in that casket.

I am very much looking forward to hearing what songs were selected in honoring him.

[mrsmcgoo]

Yes -- sounds like it will be the closing. I can tell you right now Jennifer Hudson is going to make me cry !!!

Bless her heart, she has had a difficult year. She is expecting. I always think some good comes from bad and think it is her baby in her case.

[VC2]

i decided to short the cats on kitty litter and order one but damned canada thing too. I guess i have to find a US addy to have it sent to then sent on to me lol...or pray seller agrees. it wont even need customs papers since it is a program not a big article.

[Dunlurken]

TMZ must have heard what MSNBC said.


There are various news reports that Michael Jackson's body is not in the casket -- absolutely not true.


Our sources -- who know -- say 100% Jackson's body is in the coffin that is being taken to Staples Center.


http://www.tmz.com/Of course he's in the coffin.

[FallenAngel♥]

Hello everyone. Is CNN the best coverage so far ? Just woke up.
Am I the only one that feels all kinds of emotions today ? Ive been so sad since MJ passed....its brought back soooooo many happy memories for me though. Sad, Happy, etc....My first tap dance to Rockin' Robin.

:(

CNN and HLN are the best today :thumbsup:

[Dunlurken]

You already know Moonie, Michael will be at the Staple Center.

I do think he is in that casket.

I am very much looking forward to hearing what songs were selected in honoring him.

I'm hoping for Gone to Soon, and the Man in the Mirror.

[Scampi]

This is one of the songs that I love, and gone too soon

I am betting Hub's right arm, someone sings that today. I would love for it to be Usher.

[FallenAngel♥]

Larry King just got there........why does he ALWAYS look mad :angry:

[FallenAngel♥]

I'm hoping for Gone to Soon, and the Man in the Mirror.

We are the world, Man in the Mirror and Thriller are my favs.

[Brattnt]

CNN just reported that the Memorial has been pushed back to 10:30am...

[MoonHarvest]

Is anyone from here (these boards) down there?

[lilismom]

I'm off to enjoy the rest of my BD.

I pray the services continue with class and dignity and respect and love.

Celebrate today the man and his music.

RIP MJ - definitely Gone Too Soon. :rose:

IMO,
Lilismom

[grammie/va]

I am betting Hub's right arm, someone sings that today. I would love for it to be Usher.

that would be great

[BorderCollieMom]

CNN and HLN are the best today :thumbsup:
Thanks Much !!!

[mrsmcgoo]

i decided to short the cats on kitty litter and order one but damned canada thing too. I guess i have to find a US addy to have it sent to then sent on to me lol...or pray seller agrees. it wont even need customs papers since it is a program not a big article.


I asked the seller if they will ship to Canada, maybe if you ask too they will! lol

[MoonHarvest]

I'm off to enjoy the rest of my BD.

I pray the services continue with class and dignity and respect and love.

Celebrate today the man and his music.

RIP MJ - definitely Gone Too Soon. :rose:

IMO,
Lilismom

HaPPy BirThDaY ...

[mrsmcgoo]

LA has certainly done an excellent job clearing the streets. :thumbsup:

[VC2]

i had to giggle at shep smith.

He said "if they are trying to make it low key they get an F" :laugh: (talking about the 6 lane highway shut down etc) he didn't mean it meanly.

[truthdiscern]

Watching the hearse being followed down the freeway is eerily reminiscent of the day many of us here were watching him on his way to court almost exactly 4 years ago...he was ACQUITTED of all bogus charges on that day and many of us celebrated with each other...today is a very different day...its interesting to me that I wanted to share this day with some of you...and while it has been a heartbreaking week, he is also being released with love..although to a very different place

[*Serenity*]

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[grammie/va]

Shep Smith on Fox is not being too nice in his discription-----regardless of your feelings, today should be showing respect

[VC2]

I asked the seller if they will ship to Canada, maybe if you ask too they will! lol

I sent a question too. maybe will get lucky. dang....i didn't think i would want anything as a momento (really was never a big music fan per se) but a program feels right. Spent enough months fighting for his defense :laugh:

[FallenAngel♥]

'cause he's getting old and cranky? LOL

uh huh i know that's right :lol:

[Dunlurken]

I'll be there" is also a great song. Too many to hope they will play. :sad:

[FallenAngel♥]

Shep Smith on Fox is not being too nice in his discription-----regardless of your feelings, today should be showing respect

Shep needs to stop smoking it's affecting his voice IMO

[*Serenity*]

Watch CNN - doing a great job


I totally agree. CNN is doing a great job, very respectful coverage so far.

[VC2]

Even the swat team's truck was low key looking when you think of it. Not emblazoned, just a big truck behind the hearse.

[mrsmcgoo]

I sent a question too. maybe will get lucky. dang....i didn't think i would want anything as a momento (really was never a big music fan per se) but a program feels right. Spent enough months fighting for his defense :laugh:


You did, treat yourself!

I checked back and it said they had 32 sold, so I think they have quite a few.

[Mel]

Shep Smith on Fox is not being too nice in his discription-----regardless of your feelings, today should be showing respect

I think he's doing fine

[VC2]

I totally agree. CNN is doing a great job, very respectful coverage so far.

yes they have done a great job. Generally shep has followed it pretty well, i only caught that one comment which had me laugh a bit because no one would call MJ's send off low key even though obviously it is solemn.

I still prefer cnn because msnbc pulled the abramas and GA stunt, and if shep is being obnoxious overall ...then by by

[mrsmcgoo]

You did, treat yourself!

I checked back and it said they had 32 sold, so I think they have quite a few.

77 sold now :ohmy:

[MoonHarvest]

Whooooooo (whistling) $30 for the memorial program from Ebay. How come the cover looks different?

[grammie/va]

Watch CNN - doing a great job

i am watching CNN just flipped over to fox, don't usually a fox watcher because of Geraldo and Greta covering Palin all the time, just was surprised Shep was being so disrespectful

[Dunlurken]

If there's a Rock and Roll Heaven, You know they have a heck of a band. JMO.

Later peeps. Going to watch the service.

RIP Michael. You were loved by millions. :rose:

[4Life]

Hello All
Too many pages to read today so sorry if this was answered, but did I hear correctly that MJs body will be at the memorial concert today?

MTV is doing live coverage of this event

[4Life]

Whooooooo (whistling) $30 for the memorial program from Ebay. How come the cover looks different?

Could be a fake

[MoonHarvest]

Hello All
Too many pages to read today so sorry if this was answered, but did I hear correctly that MJs body will be at the memorial concert today?

MTV is doing live coverage of this event

He will be there.:thumbup:

[Tokyo Rose]

Even the swat team's truck was low key looking when you think of it. Not emblazoned, just a big truck behind the hearse.

Did you notice the rescue wagon behind the procession?

Swat goes nowhere and does nothing without a rescue team with them.

It's procedure.

jmo

[MoonHarvest]

Could be a fake


Hmmm, this seller has sold 18 items in the past.

[4Life]

He will be there.:thumbup:

I thought they buried him tis morning?

[cherish]

MSNBC is also doing a great job.

Having Gloria Allred on during MJ's memorial service is in poor taste IMO.

[MoonHarvest]

I thought they buried him tis morning?

Don't know about that. I believe he is there, it's fitting.