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GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 06:19 PM
I think so also with the postal service suffering because of the internet they'll do what they have to, to keep the business going.
If they have a lick of sense they sure will. They need revenue badly.
imo
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 06:23 PM
If they have a lick of sense they sure will. They need revenue badly.
imo
LOL Pun intended??
I was very relived with the outcome of today's probate hearing. And absolutely delighted to hear about the no-contest clause!
4Life
07-06-2009, 06:29 PM
Taylor just wrote on her Twitter: "I've been asked to speak at the Staples Center. I cannot be part of the public whoopla. And I cannot guarantee that I would be coherent to say a word. I just don't believe that Michael would want me to share my grief with millions of others. How I feel is between us. Not a public event. I said I wouldn't go to the Staples Center and I certainly don't want to become a part of it. I love him too much."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/elizabeth-taylor-michael-jackson-memorial-twitter/
legalmania
07-06-2009, 06:29 PM
LOL Pun intended??
I was very relived with the outcome of today's probate hearing. And absolutely delighted to hear about the no-contest clause!
I thought the probate hearing was scheduled for Aug. 3rd. I thought today's hearing was to appoint an executor?
Ice Cycle
07-06-2009, 06:34 PM
Taylor just wrote on her Twitter: "I've been asked to speak at the Staples Center. I cannot be part of the public whoopla. And I cannot guarantee that I would be coherent to say a word. I just don't believe that Michael would want me to share my grief with millions of others. How I feel is between us. Not a public event. I said I wouldn't go to the Staples Center and I certainly don't want to become a part of it. I love him too much."
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/elizabeth-taylor-michael-jackson-memorial-twitter/
Surely she was invited to and is going to the private funeral.
4Life
07-06-2009, 06:36 PM
Surely she was invited to and is going to the private funeral.
I'm sure she will be at the pvt funeral
CANDYKISSES
07-06-2009, 06:38 PM
There is video today on HLN of DR exiting a restaurant was surrounded by reporters and cameramen, they were asking her about attending the service. She yelled at a one of them don't you touch me, he said it didn't, she said yes you did and made a comment that she would kick his ***. I think she may have dropped a F bomb,
While getting in the car someone asked her if she would take money again for giving up the rights to her children, door slammed.
( I can't find a link so from memory).
Also a commentary then rehashed that she took money 2x. Giving Michael the children the ist time and taking money again at the time of the trial. That this willl not bode well for her trying to get the kids now. On the other hand Catherine age will not help the Jackson's when a decision has to be made.
I was just talking to my husband about that PL. Debbie would be faced with the crowds all the time if she had the children and her commentary didn't sound like anything I would want to be played in a court of law when I was trying to get custody of three children. JMO THO.
I agree on Catherine too. What a shame when you think of the options for the children IMOO. :sad:
4Life
07-06-2009, 06:43 PM
I thought the probate hearing was scheduled for Aug. 3rd. I thought today's hearing was to appoint an executor?
Branca and McClain will have to post a $1 million bond on the estate, Beckloff ruled. Their authority over the estate will expire Aug. 3, when another hearing on the estate will be held.
"Mr. Branca and Mr. McClain for the next month are at the helm of the ship," Beckloff said.
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/michael-jacksons-will/556801
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 06:43 PM
RadarOnline.com has the exclusive first look at site construction and performer details for Tuesday's Michael Jackson Memorial at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-first-look-inside-michael-jacksons-memorial-service
Aslo 16 photos............
http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/11157/2009/07/michael-jackson-memorial-inside-staples-center
legalmania
07-06-2009, 06:44 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ktla-jackson-children-custody,0,3368167.story
Here is the video it is toward the end. Debbie Rowe at her best.
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 06:46 PM
I thought the probate hearing was scheduled for Aug. 3rd. I thought today's hearing was to appoint an executor?
I was speaking in general terms. Appointing an Executor is part of the probate process. Actually though, an Executor hasn't been appointed, as I understand it. Special Administrators were appointed.
Hi, Candy!! :seeya:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 06:47 PM
Hello Cinder -
I really did not go past the Encino house all weekend after Friday afternoon. It looked a little calmer today.
I think some 13 year old girl fainted in the heat yesterday.
Ha, you are hiding from your guests. Laying low. Everyone should be gone after tomorrow.
And, yes that was the one I heard about. Thanks.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 06:49 PM
I would have a question, specially addressed to you as you work in health care.
One of the first reports was MJ got a demerol shot (back then: demerol) at 11:30. The 911 call was at 12:21. Some days later Dr. Murray's lawyer admitted there was a 30 minutes delay by excuses which were hard to believe (doc didn't know the address; no phone).
It remains unclear to me WHY they HAD to ADMIT any delay. I know nothing about autopsies... but that they admitted the delay imo would only make sense
- if MJ was dead already at home (death time provable in autopsy)
- if he indeed died of drugs (time when got the drug provable in autopsy)
Could you think of any other medical aspects why they HAD to admit the delay because it later could be revealed in an autopsy? -- If not I conclude MJ was either dead already or indeed died of a drug or both (because the excuses for the delay are somehow ridiculous) and - no matter what their true reasons for the delay were (for example cleaning up the scene; avoiding media circus) - they wouldn't have had to admit the delay.
I think he was already dead when they called 911. MOO
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 06:53 PM
I'm sure she will be at the pvt funeral
KFI was saying private funeral at 8AM at Forest Lawn, Hollywood.
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 06:57 PM
I think he was already dead when they called 911. MOO
I agee 100%
Also- the securtiy guard that phoned 911 knows a lot, he won't even go home and is staying at un-disclosed location. I'm sure he doesn't want anyone near his home or chasing after him.
LAPD interviewed him, and his wife refuses to tell what her husband had to say to her and LE. I'm sure he has a lot of details.
Also- I find the chef to very believable about all the oxygen tanks at Michael's home. This oxygen tank news leads me to believe that this IV thing was going on for quite sometime. Just my opinion though. :)
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Here is Debbie Rowe showing what a good mother she will be
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ktla-jackson-children-custody,0,3368167.story
No wonder she backed out to attend the memorial. Photogs everywhere.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 06:58 PM
I agee 100%
Also- the securtiy guard that phoned 911 knows a lot, he won't even go home and is staying at un-disclosed location. I'm sure he doesn't want anyone near his home or chasing after him.
LAPD interviewed him, and his wife refuses to tell what her husband had to say to her and LE. I'm sure he has a lot of details.
Also- I find the chef to very believable about all the oxygen tanks at Michael's home. This oxygen tank news leads me to believe that this IV thing was going on for quite sometime. Just my opinion though. :)
We are in agreement. :smile:
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 07:01 PM
I agee 100%
Also- the securtiy guard that phoned 911 knows a lot, he won't even go home and is staying at un-disclosed location. I'm sure he doesn't want anyone near his home or chasing after him.
LAPD interviewed him, and his wife refuses to tell what her husband had to say to her and LE. I'm sure he has a lot of details.
Also- I find the chef to very believable about all the oxygen tanks at Michael's home. This oxygen tank news leads me to believe that this IV thing was going on for quite sometime. Just my opinion though. :)
see red mark: Right, witnesses could be non-medical reason why the doc HAD to admit the delay.
Which chef? Did a chef speak out?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:02 PM
I had to lay low....we were running out of coffee! hehehe:laugh: Greedy bunch.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Branca and McClain will have to post a $1 million bond on the estate, Beckloff ruled. Their authority over the estate will expire Aug. 3, when another hearing on the estate will be held.
"Mr. Branca and Mr. McClain for the next month are at the helm of the ship," Beckloff said.
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/michael-jacksons-will/556801
IMO these two put the estate in the red, I don't think I would want them to negotiate anything. Lucky it's only a temporary order.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:05 PM
IMO these two put the estate in the red, I don't think I would want them to negotiate anything. Lucky it's only a temporary order.
I don't know, I thought they were doing good until MJ had all of his legal problems. :confused:
incidentally
07-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Not convicted.
Acquitted.
All mean the same thing under our constitution he is INNOCENT until proven guilty.
Doesn't matter what opinion you,I or the congressman hold. Jackson died an innocent man under the umbrella of our constitution.
For a Congressman to ignore the constitution is a far more grievous action than the media glorifying Jackson.
I love this whole post, especially the last sentence. "my hero" poster of the day :smile:
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:06 PM
No wonder she backed out to attend the memorial. Photogs everywhere.
I think it's wrong to split the children up. They have been together from birth, how could you not take all three.
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:07 PM
IMO these two put the estate in the red, I don't think I would want them to negotiate anything. Lucky it's only a temporary order.
The court will have to approve any major decisions they make. And I can tell you I am much less concerned about the children's inheritance with those two in charge than I would be with Joe Jackson pulling the strings.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:07 PM
LOL Pun intended??
I was very relived with the outcome of today's probate hearing. And absolutely delighted to hear about the no-contest clause!
LOL!!
Me too, Cardinal. I breathed a sigh of relief. These men know how to make that Estate keep climbing. That is good for everyone.............the kids, his Mom and the charities.
Yep. contest and they will lose everything. I have that type of Will myself.
imo
Tokyo Rose
07-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Here is the video it is toward the end. Debbie Rowe at her best.
She has spunk. Good for her.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't know, I thought they were doing good until MJ had all of his legal problems. :confused:
His legal problems shouldn't have put his estate in the red. I know it was expensive but the thriller album alone should have covered that. I just saw the thriller album on e-bay for $3500.
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:10 PM
LOL!!
Me too, Cardinal. I breathed a sigh of relief. These men know how to make that Estate keep climbing. That is good for everyone.............the kids, his Mom and the charities.
Yep. contest and they will lose everything. I have that type of Will myself.
imo
I just love no-contest clauses! I firmly believe that a will written with capacity and without undue influence should be honored, whether anyone likes it or not. The right to do that is not to taken lightly.
Tokyo Rose
07-06-2009, 07:10 PM
LOL!!
Me too, Cardinal. I breathed a sigh of relief. These men know how to make that Estate keep climbing. That is good for everyone.............the kids, his Mom and the charities.
Yep. contest and they will lose everything. I have that type of Will myself.
imo
Not so good for Joe and the siblings. Hahaha Unless they can wrangle some of K's assets away from her. jmo
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Not so good for Joe and the siblings. Hahaha Unless they can wrangle some of K's assets away from her. jmo
The assets are in trust. I highly doubt she controls the assets - I think she's only entitled to distributions from the trust for her support.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:12 PM
I don't know, I thought they were doing good until MJ had all of his legal problems. :confused:
They were, he had them when he made all sorts of good business deals and the money was flowing in.
Isn't one of them the one who negotiated the deal for the Beatles catalog.
imo
ScoobyDoo
07-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Thanks! And more...
Commemorative stamps or postal stationery items honoring individuals usually will be issued on, or in conjunction with, significant anniversaries of their birth, but no postal item will be issued sooner than ten years after the individual's death. The one exception to the ten-year rule is the issuance of stamps honoring deceased U.S. presidents. They may be honored with a memorial stamp on the first birth anniversary following their death.
http://www.govspot.com/ask/suggestastamp.htm
I just mailed a letter with Homer Simpson on the stamp. Dang...did he die too?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:12 PM
His legal problems shouldn't have put his estate in the red. I know it was expensive but the thriller album alone should have covered that. I just saw the thriller album on e-bay for $3500.
I meant that things went down hill from that time. But, I am not sure. Just what I heard.
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:13 PM
MICHAEL Jackson fans are in a frenzy over a possible sighting of the star's GHOST at Neverland.
An eerie shadow resembling Jacko's figure appeared on a wall in the singer's former home during a live television programme last week - and walked across the corridor. It moved quickly from left to right before disappearing.
See the video below...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:14 PM
The court will have to approve any major decisions they make. And I can tell you I am much less concerned about the children's inheritance with those two in charge than I would be with Joe Jackson pulling the strings.
I'm with you on that one there is no way Michael would want Joe Jackson in charge of anything. The will is suppose to be a testament of what Michael wanted, I don't even think he mentioned his fathers name.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:15 PM
They were, he had them when he made all sorts of good business deals and the money was flowing in.
Isn't one of them the one who negotiated the deal for the Beatles catalog.
imo
I think they did get the Beatles deal. I really have never heard that the attny. didn't do a good job. :confused:
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:15 PM
The assets are in trust. I highly doubt she controls the assets - I think she's only entitled to distributions from the trust for her support.
That is true up to 40% and at the time of her death if that has not been used up then the remainder will be passed onto the children to go along with their 40%.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:15 PM
I just mailed a letter with Homer Simpson on the stamp. Dang...did he die too?:laugh:...
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:16 PM
I'm with you on that one there is no way Michael would want Joe Jackson in charge of anything. The will is suppose to be a testament of what Michael wanted, I don't even think he mentioned his fathers name.
I think he'd turn over in his grave - and/or haunt somebody - if Joe Jackson had any control at all over his estate.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:16 PM
MICHAEL Jackson fans are in a frenzy over a possible sighting of the star's GHOST at Neverland.
An eerie shadow resembling Jacko's figure appeared on a wall in the singer's former home during a live television programme last week - and walked across the corridor. It moved quickly from left to right before disappearing.
See the video below...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html
:ohmy: They will never get them to leave now.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:17 PM
I think they did get the Beatles deal. I really have never heard that the attny. didn't do a good job. :confused:
Me either. The THs from California said he is known as one of the best.
imo
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:17 PM
They were, he had them when he made all sorts of good business deals and the money was flowing in.
Isn't one of them the one who negotiated the deal for the Beatles catalog.
imo
Actually Paul gave Michael the idea when they did that song together he told Michael that he was trying to buy back the publishing rights, Paul says next thing Michael comes up to him and tells him he bought the rights.
incidentally
07-06-2009, 07:18 PM
Not so good for Joe and the siblings. Hahaha Unless they can wrangle some of K's assets away from her. jmo
11:53 AM ET -- Katherine's lawyer is raising questions about the 2002 will, but just said Joe and Katherine will not challenge the will at this time.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/jackson-court-hearing/#continuedcontents
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 07:18 PM
see red mark: Right, witnesses could be non-medical reason why the doc HAD to admit the delay.
Which chef? Did a chef speak out?
The chef in the home that the doctor went to for help calling 911, and the chef contacted the security guard.
Here's the link I posted earlier, also has a video.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-video-interview-michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-chef-reveals-bombshell-about-singer%E2%80%99s
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:19 PM
That is true up to 40% and at the time of her death if that has not been used up then the remainder will be passed onto the children to go along with their 40%.
I just wish we knew who the trustee(s) of the trust is/are. They'll be the ones making the decisions about what is distributed to KJ vs. what is retained for the children. My guess is, though, that the named Executors and the named Trustees are the same.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:20 PM
Actually Paul gave Michael the idea when they did that song together he told Michael that he was trying to buy back the publishing rights, Paul says next thing Michael comes up to him and tells him he bought the rights.
I think that was pretty sneaky. But, MJ wanted the rights,and the attny. did the deal right?
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:20 PM
MICHAEL Jackson fans are in a frenzy over a possible sighting of the star's GHOST at Neverland.
An eerie shadow resembling Jacko's figure appeared on a wall in the singer's former home during a live television programme last week - and walked across the corridor. It moved quickly from left to right before disappearing.
See the video below...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html
Since it is from The Sun it is probably fake but when I say the ghost like figure it gave me the willies.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:24 PM
A new report as confirmed by Michael Jackson's former publicist (Stuart Backerman) states that Jackson had planned to perform a duet with his oldest son on tour.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-704-Pop-Media-Examiner~y2009m7d3-Michael-Jackson-planned-duet-on-tour-with-son-Prince-He-wanted-his-kids-to-see-him-perform
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:26 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/06/jackson-court-hearing/#continuedcontents
There is no way that Katherine is going to challenge what is in this Will. She may want to wait to see if another Will surfaces but if she challenges the Will itself then she loses the 40% left for her.
I don't think there is another Will.
Joe.............well imo he knows he would be wasting his time. MJs lawyers would come out with guns blazing if Joe of all people tried to get one penny that belonged to the son he cruelly abused for so long.
imo
ScoobyDoo
07-06-2009, 07:26 PM
I think it's wrong to split the children up. They have been together from birth, how could you not take all three.
You know.. and I add that I did not imagine this, but the very first report I heard about D. Rowe and custody, the report said that she was seekig custody of all three children. I don't know which report it was, and haven't heard that since. Just thought it was interesting.
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:27 PM
A new report as confirmed by Michael Jackson's former publicist (Stuart Backerman) states that Jackson had planned to perform a duet with his oldest son on tour.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-704-Pop-Media-Examiner~y2009m7d3-Michael-Jackson-planned-duet-on-tour-with-son-Prince-He-wanted-his-kids-to-see-him-perform
Aah, now that makes me teary.
I am so disappointed that I can't watch the memorial feed tomorrow. Just know that I'm with you guys in spirit.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:27 PM
I think that was pretty sneaky. But, MJ wanted the rights,and the attny. did the deal right?
I'm not sure who did the deal but Paul was mad. I thought I heard something about Michael giving him the rights back, I think that would be a very noble thing to do.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:28 PM
A new report as confirmed by Michael Jackson's former publicist (Stuart Backerman) states that Jackson had planned to perform a duet with his oldest son on tour.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-704-Pop-Media-Examiner~y2009m7d3-Michael-Jackson-planned-duet-on-tour-with-son-Prince-He-wanted-his-kids-to-see-him-perform
That is just so sad. I hope they have video of them working together on their dance and song routine.
:rose:
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:29 PM
Sources confirm to PEOPLE that the dancers who were set to take the stage with Jackson on his London tour will also perform at the memorial.
Beyoncé and Whitney Houston are also said to be making appearances, but are not performing, according to Entertainment Tonight.
According to reports, the Jackson's will have their own private funeral at Forest Lawn Memorial in the Hollywood Hills Tuesday morning, prior to the public event. The Jackson family, along with Michael's three children, will remain by each other's side at both services, says a source. "The news is really setting in now as more family members pile into town," says a Jackson family insider.
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20287787_20289631,00.html
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 07:29 PM
There is no way that Katherine is going to challenge what is in this Will. She may want to wait to see if another Will surfaces but if she challenges the Will itself then she loses the 40% left for her.
I don't think there is another Will.
Joe.............well imo he knows he would be wasting his time. MJs lawyers would come out with guns blazing if Joe of all people tried to get one penny that belonged to the son he cruelly abused for so long.
imo
A link I read earlier stated the other will was written in 1992 IIRC and that was supersceded by the new one, since he had the children he updated his wishes.
So- the other will the Jackson's keep wanting to surface, did surface but it was the old one. They are still, or shall I say Joe is still wanting a newer one to surface. :)
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:31 PM
Aah, now that makes me teary.
I am so disappointed that I can't watch the memorial feed tomorrow. Just know that I'm with you guys in spirit.
I am sure it will be replayed on other stations all week, probably all month
incidentally
07-06-2009, 07:31 PM
http://peteking.house.gov/index.shtml
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:32 PM
A link I read earlier stated the other will was written in 1992 IIRC and that was supersceded by the new one, since he had the children he updated his wishes.
So- the other will the Jackson's keep wanting to surface, did surface but it was the old one. They are still, or shall I say Joe is still wanting a newer one to surface. :)
I read 1997, but it's the same difference. Anything prior to this one is superceded. But you know, I'm thinking that explains the moving vans. :D
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:32 PM
I'm not sure who did the deal but Paul was mad. I thought I heard something about Michael giving him the rights back, I think that would be a very noble thing to do.
I hope it is true that he willed them back to Paul. I think that was a crummy thing to have done. I don't think he would have liked someone to do that to him. I don't blame Paul and Oko for being mad.
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07NeO-EpDQ
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:36 PM
I am sure it will be replayed on other stations all week, probably all month
I know, but it won't be the same (Of all blasted days for my manager's quarterly meeting.)
And I am so touched that they asked Shaheen Jafargholi to perform. I fell in love with him on BGT, because he sang MJ's "Who's Loving You" so beautifully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVU4IkzMNIo
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:36 PM
A link I read earlier stated the other will was written in 1992 IIRC and that was supersceded by the new one, since he had the children he updated his wishes.
So- the other will the Jackson's keep wanting to surface, did surface but it was the old one. They are still, or shall I say Joe is still wanting a newer one to surface. :)
After all the services are over tomorrow I know Katherine hopes that Joe goes on back to LV and stays there. lol
imo
RootBeer
07-06-2009, 07:37 PM
I hope it is true that he willed them back to Paul. I think that was a crummy thing to have done. I don't think he would have liked someone to do that to him. I don't blame Paul and Oko for being mad.
Business is business, they didn't bid high enough. Tough luck. jmo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:38 PM
Business is business, they didn't bid high enough. Tough luck. jmo
True, but I still think it is crummy. JMO
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:38 PM
I hope it is true that he willed them back to Paul. I think that was a crummy thing to have done. I don't think he would have liked someone to do that to him. I don't blame Paul and Oko for being mad.
Well here's to you Paul and Michael hope things worked out in the end.
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Now playing: Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/paul_mccartney_michael_jackson/track/say_say_say)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Well here's to you Paul and Michael hope things worked out in the end.
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Now playing: Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/paul_mccartney_michael_jackson/track/say_say_say)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
I hope so too.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:40 PM
I know, but it won't be the same (Of all blasted days for my manager's quarterly meeting.)
And I am so touched that they asked Shaheen Jafargholi to perform. I fell in love with him on BGT, because he sang MJ's "Who's Loving You" so beautifully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVU4IkzMNIo
I enjoyed Shaheen so much. What a little cutie too. I love his dimples.:smile:
He will be great and he will never forget this. Memories will be made that will last for a lifetime.
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:41 PM
Anyone know what it's looking like in LA? The news I am seeing is just showing Dodger Stadium. I wonder if it is already filling up.??
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:41 PM
Well here's to you Paul and Michael hope things worked out in the end.
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Now playing: Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - Say Say Say (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/paul_mccartney_michael_jackson/track/say_say_say)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
I think they did, based upon PM's tribute post. And thank you for this link - I love this video!
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 07:41 PM
After all the services are over tomorrow I know Katherine hopes that Joe goes on back to LV and stays there. lol
imo
I read where he was laughing it up and having a pretty good time out at breakfast yesterday morning. I forget the details of what he was overhead saying-- I didn't finish reading, simply because I saw enough of him the first day his son died, and the BET awards.
Yea.. he needs to go home and let his family mend. I can't imagine him being back around all of them during this time. Katherine has to be almost going out of her mind. Losing her son, trying to care for her grandchildren, her other chidren bantering amongst themselves, cousins upset feeling left out due to the will, and the real icing on the cake is having Joe shouting his commands at her. I hope to never walk in her shoes.
:ohmy: They will never get them to leave now.
LOL .. how true. I think that SB county better figure out a way to enjoy the tax revenue and allow it to be rezoned because otherwise they will have chaos every day now "MJs ghost" has been seen.
it is eerie tho...and i generally dont think i believe in ghosts lol
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
I enjoyed Shaheen so much. What a little cutie too. I love his dimples.:smile:
He will be great and he will never forget this. Memories will be made that will last for a lifetime.
imo
He's a cutie, and he's got amazing pipes! You're right - he will never forget this. And I think his presence, hopefully singing that song, will bring back the little MJ for everyone.
ETA: MJ singing it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ane6VJGlIMs
LOVE the hat!
*Serenity*
07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Anyone know what it's looking like in LA? The news I am seeing is just showing Dodger Stadium. I wonder if it is already filling up.??
Also read earlier that all surrounding hotels are pretty much booked, with only few rooms left. I was hoping the peeps that didn't win tickets would be staying home.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:45 PM
I enjoyed Shaheen so much. What a little cutie too. I love his dimples.:smile:
He will be great and he will never forget this. Memories will be made that will last for a lifetime.
imo
OMG I loved this kid. He was great. I didn't know that they had asked him. wow. Good for him.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:46 PM
I think they did, based upon PM's tribute post. And thank you for this link - I love this video!
It didn't come up for me. ???
4Life
07-06-2009, 07:47 PM
A clip of MJs 2 older kids singing
Sad
http://allieiswired.com/archives/2009/07/michael-jacksons-home-movies-video/
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 07:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u07NeO-EpDQ
Oh gosh that was so cute. They were having a great time.
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:49 PM
LOL .. how true. I think that SB county better figure out a way to enjoy the tax revenue and allow it to be rezoned because otherwise they will have chaos every day now "MJs ghost" has been seen.
it is eerie tho...and i generally dont think i believe in ghosts lol
I think you may be right. Santa Barbara is pretty tough though. Probably just arrest them after awhile. :ohmy: They are really hard on the college kids. Probably with good reason, but still.
I'm not sure who did the deal but Paul was mad. I thought I heard something about Michael giving him the rights back, I think that would be a very noble thing to do.
I wonder if that is what Katherine and JOE meant in the article that said there were also concerns about some of the beneficiaries in the trust????? I didn't believe it was just broken into 3 so easily i am sure he had some ppl or items he wanted to will something to be it goods or money
jmo
legalmania
07-06-2009, 07:49 PM
I think they did, based upon PM's tribute post. And thank you for this link - I love this video!
I forgot Linda was in it also. He was very lucky to have a love like that, not a whole lot of people find their true soul mate.
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Well, I can only give my "Armchair" impressions..along with what I observed and read..and have to admit initially I thought he (Michael) might have Od'd on perscription meds..and it wasnt until I heard about the Diprivan..that I believed that this Dr. was directly involved with this treatment,,and Dr. Murray likely brought Mike up too quickly..and Michael went into spasm..and stopped breathing..and he (Dr. M.) panic'd...and the rest is history......I do think that forensics will be able to find a link to Diprivan..and unfortunately for Dr. Murray..due to half-life of this drug...he will be accountable..No other person there would have that expertise to administer this treatment..and it's no wonder He found a lawyer..and has claimed whatevers....
I dont for one minute believe this treatment ( Diprivan) as Dr Murray's idea..but accepted Michael's demands for it..( that shows me that he has done thins before..many times..IMO)..
The delay you speak of is indicative of "delay" to see if he could bring him around..and allow time to get rid of evidence of this unorthodox treatment..whatevers..Unfortunately...Dr. Murray had no medical assistance beside him to cover his "ASSETS"...and the cleanup crew had no idea what was pertinent..thus evidence was found!
I would think they would have to admit delay..because Time of Death will prove to be long before that call to 911!!
The above is just my opinion of what we have heard..and it was Michael who insisted for this treatment..however..I blame Dr. Murray for he breached "Medical Ethics" to nurture Michael and make a Load of Money..Not acceptable for me..but I am rather strict on ethical details!!
LMS
Thanx for your reply.
See red mark: I thought the same and therefore didn't believe the lawyer's statement MJ still had a pulse when the emergency arrived.
Our impressions are similar. IF the speculations are true the only I would add is: Probably he tried to bring him around too long on his own to avoid a media spectacle (like: "Jackson rushed to hospital -- drugs involved") and legal consequences -- both would be the case, too, if MJ had survived.
ScoobyDoo
07-06-2009, 07:51 PM
LOL .. how true. I think that SB county better figure out a way to enjoy the tax revenue and allow it to be rezoned because otherwise they will have chaos every day now "MJs ghost" has been seen.
it is eerie tho...and i generally dont think i believe in ghosts lol
It won't be long before people are crowding around a piece of stale toast which will purport to show his face on it.
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 07:52 PM
I wonder if that is what Katherine and JOE meant in the article that said there were also concerns about some of the beneficiaries in the trust????? I didn't believe it was just broken into 3 so easily i am sure he had some ppl or items he wanted to will something to be it goods or money
jmo
I jumped on that one, too. Could religious communities be called "charity", too?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Holy Moly..I am so sick and tired of Al Sharpton..but his tirade blaming media for Mickey's woes..amongst other things..I think it just may be about time that All Media shuts this big "Mouth" out..dont cover anything he says or does..as it is his only "value" to the causes he claims to support..and his media pull....Whoa..He would have no pull no value IF the "Media" just STOP giving him air time!..I dont much care for AL S....he only gets involved if there is media exposure ..
He has known MJ for many decades..and he should be doing his duty to support the family, grieve and Shut his Mouth!!..A big mouth does not make him more grieving and caring than say..someone like his kids..his family..and yep even Grace...
Media....please dont give AL any more airtime..I dont wish to hear his blame game any more!!..LOL
LMS
OMG I agree with you. I am surprised he survived the Tawanna Brawly thing. I just turn the channel when he is ranting. Did you see the video with him and Jesse? I couldn't believe he didn't say a word, it was weird. I don't know what Jesse threatened him with. :laugh:
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 07:55 PM
I think they did, based upon PM's tribute post. And thank you for this link - I love this video!
I love the video and the song.
I hope it is true that he willed them back to Paul. I think that was a crummy thing to have done. I don't think he would have liked someone to do that to him. I don't blame Paul and Oko for being mad.
I agree 90% with you, the only question i ever had is why didn't Paul out bid Michael? It was an auction, iirc Paul had more money than MJ too. I guess i have a small part that says if he wanted them so badly then bid higher..he had no idea who the opposing bidder was til michael won and told him
Jmo
A clip of MJs 2 older kids singing
Sad
http://allieiswired.com/archives/2009/07/michael-jacksons-home-movies-video/
It says the video is no longer available due to copyright by American Broadcasting companies. *sigh*
Cardinal
07-06-2009, 07:57 PM
It won't be long before people are crowding around a piece of stale toast which will purport to show his face on it.
OMG, I needed that! Because I was in tears after watching the video that 4Life posted. Those precious children have lost their daddy.
And I am very sad about that loss, and all the loss.
Goodnight, everyone. Wish I could be here tomorrow. :)
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 07:58 PM
MICHAEL Jackson fans are in a frenzy over a possible sighting of the star's GHOST at Neverland.
An eerie shadow resembling Jacko's figure appeared on a wall in the singer's former home during a live television programme last week - and walked across the corridor. It moved quickly from left to right before disappearing.
See the video below...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html
Who knows if the ghost story really comes from the fans? -- It would more think there's a GHOSTWRITER at work for the always trashy "Sun"...
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 07:59 PM
other than a brief trip to "mid town" tonight, I'm staying FAR away from downtown tomorrow. it's the valley and the west-side for me only.
I'm skeeerrreeedddd :scared:
Me too. I have told my husband to take the train, but I am not even sure he can get to Grand Central. It has been a long time since I spent time in LA.
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:00 PM
It says the video is no longer available due to copyright by American Broadcasting companies. *sigh*
Aww it was there a few minutes ago and was so cute and sad
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:00 PM
MWA HAHA HA HA HA HA
then my plan worked.
I am the one who transposed the "ghost" in the Neverland interview and spent all weekend planting it all over the net just to get those DAMN PEOPLE OUT OF MY HOUSE AND BACK TO NEVERLAND!
Good thinking. :lol::lol:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:01 PM
Oh Gosh, Nancy is on. :laugh::laugh:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:03 PM
I agree 90% with you, the only question i ever had is why didn't Paul out bid Michael? It was an auction, iirc Paul had more money than MJ too. I guess i have a small part that says if he wanted them so badly then bid higher..he had no idea who the opposing bidder was til michael won and told him
Jmo
I don't know how the bidding was conducted. :shrug:
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:03 PM
It says the video is no longer available due to copyright by American Broadcasting companies. *sigh* Ok, try this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJswed2vZfM
MJ teaching his kids to dance..lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY
I enjoyed Shaheen so much. What a little cutie too. I love his dimples.:smile:
He will be great and he will never forget this. Memories will be made that will last for a lifetime.
imo
As much as I LOVE susan boyle and her voice, i was impressed by shaheen and this will really be amazing for him.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:04 PM
It says the video is no longer available due to copyright by American Broadcasting companies. *sigh*
Hmmm I just watched it. It is slow but it played.
This is the one where the children are singing to him and telling him how much they love him.
"You are my sunshine..........Please dont take our daddy away."
The other one is of a birthday party, right?
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:05 PM
Oh Gosh, Nancy is on. :laugh::laugh:
Let's see if we can count how many questionable things she says?
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Aww it was there a few minutes ago and was so cute and sad
It's still there for me, I wonder if it's because I pay a monthly fee?
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:07 PM
As much as I LOVE susan boyle and her voice, i was impressed by shaheen and this will really be amazing for him.
It will be wonderful.
It starts at 1:00 EST, right?
CANDYKISSES
07-06-2009, 08:07 PM
Watching NG tonight is very disturbing when the allegations start flying around regarding whether MJ is a bio-dad. How sad for the children as these kind of broadcasts air......:crying:
I am surprised at such discussion taking place with no real evidence. Anyone else surprised or did I miss such a confirmation?:confused:
Unperson1984
07-06-2009, 08:08 PM
I think the Judge made good rulings this morning, and he mentioned appointing an attorney for the children.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Hmmm I just watched it. It is slow but it played.
This is the one where the children are singing to him and telling him how much they love him.
"You are my sunshine..........Please dont take our daddy away."
The other one is of a birthday party, right?
I got the creeps over that because that was the last song little Caylee was singing. They are just beautiful kids.
Firehead11
07-06-2009, 08:08 PM
MICHAEL Jackson fans are in a frenzy over a possible sighting of the star's GHOST at Neverland.
An eerie shadow resembling Jacko's figure appeared on a wall in the singer's former home during a live television programme last week - and walked across the corridor. It moved quickly from left to right before disappearing.
See the video below...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2518485/Fans-claim-that-Michael-Jacksons-ghost-has-been-spotted-at-Neverland.html
:scared: You got to be kidding me
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:09 PM
Oh Gosh, Nancy is on. :laugh::laugh:
:w00t: LOL Not at my house.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:09 PM
It will be wonderful.
It starts at 1:00 EST, right?
Coverage starts at noon but the event starts at 1 EST
Who knows if the ghost story really comes from the fans? -- It would more think there's a GHOSTWRITER at work for the always trashy "Sun"...
it would be easy enough to check, it is from the CNN LKL show at neverland last week. So if it was the sun then i think it would have been proven false just by looking at LKL
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Watching NG tonight is very disturbing when the allegations start flying around regarding whether MJ is a bio-dad. How sad for the children as these kind of broadcasts air......:crying:
I am surprised at such discussion taking place with no real evidence. Anyone else surprised or did I miss such a confirmation?:confused:
Nancy is talking about Debbie being a bad mom for talking like that, well what is she doing?
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:11 PM
I got the creeps over that because that was the last song little Caylee was singing. They are just beautiful kids.
Oh I just love that song. I am from the South and I think every child born down here sang that sweet little song.
Shows what a sweet child Caylee was. Her mother is a monster.
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:11 PM
Let's see if we can count how many questionable things she says?
:laugh::laugh: tough job.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:13 PM
Coverage starts at noon but the event starts at 1 EST
Thank you. On all the major cable networks?
imo
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:13 PM
I think the Judge made good rulings this morning, and he mentioned appointing an attorney for the children.
The kids definitely will need a guardian ad litem.
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Thank you. On all the major cable networks?
imo
I forgot what station I had on, it wasn't a cable station, they said they are starting their coverage at 12
I just re read your post
I am sure it will be on all cable networks
I have Comcast and it will be on
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:15 PM
:w00t: LOL Not at my house.
imo hahahaha. She cracks me up. I always get a good laugh when I watch. She hasn't said that "he woke up dead" yet. That was on ANS. :scared:
FallenAngel♥
07-06-2009, 08:15 PM
i wonder when the family will tell the public what all was in the autopsy report.
interesting, MJ's doctor was not licensed even to prescribe a cough syrup in CA:
According to federal drug regulations, Michael Jackson's personal physician couldn’t legally prescribe even a powerful cough medicine for the King of Pop in California, and he couldn’t go to the pharmacy to get drugs for him, either.
Federal authorities told FOXNews.com that Dr. Conrad Murray is not licensed to administer certain levels of controlled medications in the state, and that if he gave Demerol or Oxycontin to Jackson, as has been reported, it would have been illegal.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html
Ok, try this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJswed2vZfM
MJ teaching his kids to dance..lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvcGFiqxnOY
So precious and yet so sad. :rose:
Thank you for posting the links.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:18 PM
hahahaha. She cracks me up. I always get a good laugh when I watch. She hasn't said that "he woke up dead" yet. That was on ANS. :scared:
OMG she is still saying that MJ collapsed dead in front of his own son.
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:18 PM
Watching NG tonight is very disturbing when the allegations start flying around regarding whether MJ is a bio-dad. How sad for the children as these kind of broadcasts air......:crying:
I am surprised at such discussion taking place with no real evidence. Anyone else surprised or did I miss such a confirmation?:confused:
You know.. I don't take a whole lot to being a biological child.. my parents are not my biological parents.. even though Mom and Dad picked me up from the hospital I do not have their genes.. and that very small point has never bothered me. I have always told MY MOM.. especially after I had children of my own.. having a baby is the easy part.. nurturing them, helping them grow into responsible, loving, caring adults is what is important and knowing as a child they are loved.
I stopped watching HLN along time ago even when it was whatever it was before that.
Michael's children are of the age that this stuff can get back to them.. through the media... through possibly another kid... there is no need to bring this up now before this man is even buried.. and besides that.. who's business is it anyway.. it's no ones.. Michael wanted children if this was the only way he could do that.. fine.. so be it.. who's business is it anyway.. it shouldn't be anyones.. no matter if he is a celebrity or not.. disgusting that it's even being discussed IMO.
Unperson1984
07-06-2009, 08:18 PM
The kids definitely will need a guardian ad litem.
I've said that from day one, at a minumum a financial guardian ad litem. I also heard that CPS has opened their investigation.
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:18 PM
I'd bet my life they are NOT his biological children. But so what?????????
I really don't understand what difference it makes if they are or not???
I don't see any difference. He raised them from birth and they call him daddy
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:19 PM
So precious and yet so sad. :rose:
Thank you for posting the links.
They worked for you this time?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:20 PM
I'd bet my life they are NOT his biological children. But so what?????????
I really don't understand what difference it makes if they are or not???
It doesn't make any difference, except to NG. She keeps saying "AND HE NEVER ADOPTED THEM" That is NG's drama. :wink:
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:21 PM
Watching NG tonight is very disturbing when the allegations start flying around regarding whether MJ is a bio-dad. How sad for the children as these kind of broadcasts air......:crying:
I am surprised at such discussion taking place with no real evidence. Anyone else surprised or did I miss such a confirmation?:confused:
It is so obvious that not one of these shows that airs nightly gives one whit about these three precious children or their feelings during the most tragic time of their lives. They have done nothing but spread mean spirited trash like asking the tabloidish question "Who's ya daddy?" interjecting their spin and smut. When each one of them knows full well who those children consider their father.
I hope one day as they get older they come out and set the media straight. A biological mother or father doesn't make a momma or a daddy. Blood has nothing to do with it but the love in the heart.....DOES!
They make me sick when they say "poor children":rolleyes: and don't skip a beat trying to hurt them and their family.
I detest the media more and more and more...
and more......lol
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:22 PM
He bought his own sun too???:tonguewag:
sorry...could resist:)
Ha you got it before I edited it. :tonguewag:
They worked for you this time?
Sure did. Thanks. They're both beautiful kids but his little girl is stunning. Did you see her eyes?
"You're the best daddy in the whole world". I don't care if he's not the bio dad but when you hear these words....it really doesn't matter.
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:23 PM
It doesn't make any difference, except to NG. She keeps saying "AND HE NEVER ADOPTED THEM" That is NG's drama. :wink:
His name is on their birth certificates.. guess that is all that matters unless someone cares to challenge it... I am not sure how it works when couples go to sperm banks to get their children.. if they are required to "adopt" their children...
Just more media speculation from the lower half of their bodies...:rolleyes:
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:24 PM
Sure did. Thanks. They're both beautiful kids but his little girl is stunning. Did you see her eyes?
"You're the best daddy in the whole world". I don't care if he's not the bio dad but when you hear these words....it really doesn't matter.
They are both beautiful and I love her eyes
You're right, it doesn't matter if he is the bio dad or not, they are still his kids
It will be wonderful.
It starts at 1:00 EST, right?
Yes. However CNN will be starting their coverage at 6 am EST so if you want to see it all unfold including Forest Lawn etc. it will be on (at least ppl entering/leaving)
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:25 PM
His name is on their birth certificates.. guess that is all that matters unless someone cares to challenge it... I am not sure how it works when couples go to sperm banks to get their children.. if they are required to "adopt" their children...
Just more media speculation from the lower half of their bodies...:rolleyes:
They are his kids. NG just likes the drama. I really find it hard to believe that she is an attny. She sure never worries about facts. :wink:
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Btw, do you think the children will be at the memorial, too? -- I don't think so.
Btw, do you think the children will be at the memorial, too? -- I don't think so.
I think they'll be at the private one.
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Btw, do you think the children will be at the memorial, too? -- I don't think so.
I read some where that they might be
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:27 PM
They are his kids. NG just likes the drama. I really find it hard to believe that she is an attny. She sure never worries about facts. :wink:
Well you know she's a MOM now.. so she knows all...:rolleyes:
The tapes that have been released of Michael with those kids.. shows I think what a great relationship they had.. He IMO was giving those three children what he felt he was missing in his childhood... JMVHO..
NG.. really really is off base IMO.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:27 PM
hahahaha. She cracks me up. I always get a good laugh when I watch. She hasn't said that "he woke up dead" yet. That was on ANS. :scared:
I have never been into mud wrestling and when I see NG that is what I think of....:w00t:
"Woke up dead?" Oh my her southern roots are showing.:biggrin:
imo
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Ha you got it before I edited it. :tonguewag:
It's o.k CinderL no points off for spelling or grammar errors.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:30 PM
Well you know she's a MOM now.. so she knows all...:rolleyes:
The tapes that have been released of Michael with those kids.. shows I think what a great relationship they had.. He IMO was giving those three children what he felt he was missing in his childhood... JMVHO..
NG.. really really is off base IMO.
I think the videos are going to be released aren't they? Dang I cant remember when they are supposed to air but it may be on GMA or a special.
He tickled me when he told BWs when they cried he would dance crazy and they would stop. lol
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:30 PM
In 2002, Michael said: “My funeral is going to be the greatest show on earth. That’s what I want. Fireworks and everything.”
http://www.inquisitr.com/28104/official-details-of-michael-jacksons-memorial-service/
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:31 PM
interesting, MJ's doctor was not licensed even to prescribe a cough syrup in CA:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530242,00.html
Oh no, I think someone is in big trouble.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Michael Jackson Memorial Service
MICHAEL JACKSON FUNERAL
Details about the Michael Jackson Funeral:
Michael Jackson will be privately buried July 7th at Forest Lawn Cemetery at 8 am.
The public memorial ceremony to follow will be:
Date: July 7, 2009
Time: 10:00 am
Place: Staples Center
Tickets: Free
If you do not have a Michael Jackson funeral ticket you will be barred from the Staples Center area by the Los Angeles police department.
http://michaeljacksonfuneral.org/
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:34 PM
I have never been into mud wrestling and when I see NG that is what I think of....:w00t:
"Woke up dead?" Oh my her southern roots are showing.:biggrin:
imo
There are so many Nancyisum. One of my favorites was she said that Anna nichole had Post mortum depression. :ohmy:
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:35 PM
A separate hearing will be held July 13 on the custody of Jackson's three children, who are currently living with Katherine Jackson.
Beckloff today said that he might appoint a lawyer to represent the children.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJackson/story?id=8009534&page=1
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Well you know she's a MOM now.. so she knows all...:rolleyes:
The tapes that have been released of Michael with those kids.. shows I think what a great relationship they had.. He IMO was giving those three children what he felt he was missing in his childhood... JMVHO..
NG.. really really is off base IMO.
She usually is. The thing is, once she gets something in her head, that is it.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:36 PM
It's o.k CinderL no points off for spelling or grammar errors.
Thank goodness. :laugh:
Michael Jackson Memorial Service
MICHAEL JACKSON FUNERAL
Details about the Michael Jackson Funeral:
Michael Jackson will be privately buried July 7th at Forest Lawn Cemetery at 8 am.
The public memorial ceremony to follow will be:
Date: July 7, 2009
Time: 10:00 am
Place: Staples Center
Tickets: Free
If you do not have a Michael Jackson funeral ticket you will be barred from the Staples Center area by the Los Angeles police department.
http://michaeljacksonfuneral.org/
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:39 PM
I think the videos are going to be released aren't they? Dang I cant remember when they are supposed to air but it may be on GMA or a special.
He tickled me when he told BWs when they cried he would dance crazy and they would stop. lol
imo
Can't wait to see them.. hope they do show them... supposedly his oldest son was pretty darn good...lol. Michael had many issues IMO.. with his drug dependency and I think feelings from his childhood.. but one thing I don't thing he had issues with is his love for his children.. JMVHO..
I also think he trusted people he shouldn't of.. (when has that not happened before in the celebrity world) Plus could he trust his family.. NOPE.. they were on his coattails...
I just hope those kids will be okay.. and protected.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:40 PM
Hope you're happy...I almost chocked to death on soda while reading that! ROFLMAO!
:ohmy: She is better than Comedy Central. :laugh:
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:41 PM
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
I do believe they have a tour bus that goes by that cemetery.. there are so many "big names" buried there... it's been going on for years.. I'm surprised they are burying him there.. JMO... it's going to be nutso after he is buried..:sad:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:42 PM
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
I wonder how they can keep people out of Forest Lawn? Fans and media.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Michael Jackson Memorial Service
MICHAEL JACKSON FUNERAL
Details about the Michael Jackson Funeral:
Michael Jackson will be privately buried July 7th at Forest Lawn Cemetery at 8 am.
The public memorial ceremony to follow will be:
Date: July 7, 2009
Time: 10:00 am
Place: Staples Center
Tickets: Free
If you do not have a Michael Jackson funeral ticket you will be barred from the Staples Center area by the Los Angeles police department.
http://michaeljacksonfuneral.org/
I heard that a million people plan on attending. I hope for the respect of Michael they just stay home unless they were invited.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Hope you're happy...I almost chocked to death on soda while reading that! ROFLMAO!
Are we going to have to have a rule no drinking while reading?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:44 PM
I heard that a million people plan on attending. I hope for the respect of Michael they just stay home unless they were invited.
OMG my husband is going to be a prisoner in LA. He was in NY for 911 it took him a week to get out. :scared:
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:45 PM
A separate hearing will be held July 13 on the custody of Jackson's three children, who are currently living with Katherine Jackson.
Beckloff today said that he might appoint a lawyer to represent the children.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJackson/story?id=8009534&page=1
Good.. they need their own attorney.. we don't need Grandpa Joe attaching to these three kids... they need to be protected.. so does their trust... IMO..
I don't trust his family, there was a reason he distanced himself from them excluding his mother... (who doesn't love their mother and want to take care of her).. but the rest.. again I say they were riding his coattails and those kids need to be protected.. and that includes Debbie Rowe... IMHO
incidentally
07-06-2009, 08:46 PM
I have never been into mud wrestling and when I see NG that is what I think of....:w00t:
"Woke up dead?" Oh my her southern roots are showing.:biggrin:
imo
There are so many Nancyisum. One of my favorites was she said that Anna nichole had Post mortum depression. :ohmy:
I'd be depressed too if I woke up dead...
dinojen
07-06-2009, 08:46 PM
I heard that a million people plan on attending. I hope for the respect of Michael they just stay home unless they were invited.
Guess that's going to be one HUGE IOU to the LA police dept to pay for all this being we don't have any money... SO glad I live in No. California.:scared:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:46 PM
Are we going to have to have a rule no drinking while reading?
I will be better. :wink: No more NG jokes.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:47 PM
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
I believe they just buried Ed McMahon there.
Tracian
07-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Just jumping in for a minute...
Whoa!!! Debbie Rowe is really ticked!!!!
What a mess!
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:49 PM
OMG my husband is going to be a prisoner in LA. He was in NY for 911 it took him a week to get out. :scared:
Well, I hope he's careful is he in LE?
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:49 PM
I'd be depressed too if I woke up dead... Yes, that would be horrible. :laugh: I wonder if she ever gets feedback on some of the ridiculous things she comes up with. I only hear the, "oh nancy, we love you, and your twins are sooooooooo cute".
Unperson1984
07-06-2009, 08:51 PM
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
http://www.findagrave.com/php/famous.php?page=cem&previousJumpTo=&previousFameFilter=&FScemeteryid=7975&jumpTo=1&fameLevel=very
Find-a-Grave is a fascinating site.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 08:51 PM
Just jumping in for a minute...
Whoa!!! Debbie Rowe is really ticked!!!!
What a mess!
She better tone it down if she wants custody.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Guess that's going to be one HUGE IOU to the LA police dept to pay for all this being we don't have any money... SO glad I live in No. California.:scared:
Oh I think the city will benefit. All of these people will be going out to eat somewhere close by..... maybe even some shopping too and out of towners are filling up the hotels I am sure. The city will benefit from that from the business that have to pay the city/county or state taxes on revenue made.
The actual memorial services aren't to last but 90 minutes from what I have heard.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 08:52 PM
I believe they just buried Ed McMahon there.
Yes he is buried there
Tracian
07-06-2009, 08:53 PM
She better tone it down if she wants custody.
IMO, she is mad because she was cut out of the WILL, very specifically.
RootBeer
07-06-2009, 08:53 PM
I wondered if any famous people were buried there and googled...
Prior to his Memorial on Tuesday, July 7 Michael Jackson will be buried at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. The cemetery, located in Glendale, Los Angeles, is the burial site for some of Hollywood's most famous names including Humphrey Bogart, Lucille Ball, and Sammy Davis Jr.
Jackson's burial is scheduled to take place at 8 a.m. on July 7, 2009. Whether or not his grave site will be open to the public is unknown as some parts of Forest Lawn are private.
http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/forest-lawn-cemetery-michael-jackson-burial-site
Lucille Ball was later moved to NY.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7003071
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:54 PM
Just jumping in for a minute...
Whoa!!! Debbie Rowe is really ticked!!!!
What a mess!
She was mad. One radio program was listening to in the car the guys were saying, who would want to be married to her and have her scream that at you every night. :laugh::laugh: I almost crashed into the car in front of me.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:56 PM
*sighs*
okay, send him over too. tell him to pick up a pillow on his way.
IMLMAO. OMG. I am choking. But, in all seriously, you may be seeing him. :lol:
Tracian
07-06-2009, 08:56 PM
She was mad. One radio program was listening to in the car the guys were saying, who would want to be married to her and have her scream that at you every night. :laugh::laugh: I almost crashed into the car in front of me.
LOL...that display does not support the 'loving, calming motherly' type, that is for sure!
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Well, I hope he's careful is he in LE?
No, he is coming home from being gone in South America for a month. Gets into LAX 11:00 AM. :scared:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Didn't Jermaine allude to digging up MJ once they get permits and reburying him at Neverland?
I think Jermaine and the family do want to turn the place into a tourist attraction like Graceland.
He did. He said laws are made, and they can be changed. Good luck in Santa Barbara.
truthdiscern
07-06-2009, 09:00 PM
It doesn't make any difference, except to NG. She keeps saying "AND HE NEVER ADOPTED THEM" That is NG's drama. :wink:
you got that right...drama queen with a following unfortunately...I can't stand to look at her much less hear the nastiness that spews forth...she's a troublemaker and gets paid for it
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 09:00 PM
The Jackson family is sad about scalpers:
"The 8,550 Michael Jackson fans who were chosen randomly to receive two tickets to the pop singer's memorial service on Tuesday have been notified, and some of them -- to the disappointment of the Jackson family -- already are trying to sell the tickets online."
(Jackson family spokesman = Ken Sunshine)
""This is a memorial," Sunshine said. "Words can’t describe how horrifying it is that people are ostensibly trying to do that. It’s beneath contempt.""
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/jackson-tickets-issued-and-fans-warned-not-to-sell-them.html
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh I think the city will benefit. All of these people will be going out to eat somewhere close by..... maybe even some shopping too and out of towners are filling up the hotels I am sure. The city will benefit from that from the business that have to pay the city/county or state taxes on revenue made.
The actual memorial services aren't to last but 90 minutes from what I have heard.
imo
TMZ I think has something about parking. Places that normally charge $45.00, are going to charge $200.00.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
I wonder how they can keep people out of Forest Lawn? Fans and media.
Somebody just said that there are several Forest Lawns in L.A. so I guess people will have to get lucky as to which one to go to.
Didn't Jermaine allude to digging up MJ once they get permits and reburying him at Neverland?
I think Jermaine and the family do want to turn the place into a tourist attraction like Graceland.
i know this sounds absolutely idiotic but i almost wonder if it really was his ghost because he would want that, and he tried to make it clear.
ok i need some meds i think..but it looked soo eerie and its almost hard to believe it was coincedence lol
*waits for the men in white jackets*
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:02 PM
How appropriate then that the Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey Circus is scheduled to open Wednesday at Staples Center.
Yes. :wink: The elephant walk starts at 8 AM.
truthdiscern
07-06-2009, 09:03 PM
LOL...that display does not support the 'loving, calming motherly' type, that is for sure!
nor does she handle press well...one thing these kids will have to deal with...this behavior will be noted if she decides she wants custody..not good for her
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:04 PM
The Jackson family is sad about scalpers:
"The 8,550 Michael Jackson fans who were chosen randomly to receive two tickets to the pop singer's memorial service on Tuesday have been notified, and some of them -- to the disappointment of the Jackson family -- already are trying to sell the tickets online."
(Jackson family spokesman = Ken Sunshine)
""This is a memorial," Sunshine said. "Words can’t describe how horrifying it is that people are ostensibly trying to do that. It’s beneath contempt.""
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/jackson-tickets-issued-and-fans-warned-not-to-sell-them.html
Except they were originally going to sell the tickets, until they got some feedback.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 09:04 PM
No, he is coming home from being gone in South America for a month. Gets into LAX 11:00 AM. :scared:
Hope he gets home safe.
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:04 PM
TMZ I think has something about parking. Places that normally charge $45.00, are going to charge $200.00.
Go figure.... that's LA for you..:rolleyes: Hey the opportunity is there I guess go for it... as disgusting as it is... IMO... but I guess that's fair business... if the demand is there... go for it.
LKL is doing a thing at Forest Lawn right now...
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:05 PM
Somebody just said that there are several Forest Lawns in L.A. so I guess people will have to get lucky as to which one to go to.
Unless they are tricking the media, they have said, Hollywood. I don't know. I suppose they could close it down.
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:06 PM
Somebody just said that there are several Forest Lawns in L.A. so I guess people will have to get lucky as to which one to go to.People are already standing around Forest Lawn
They just said that Forest Lawn is open to the public everyday from 8 to 5
Oh I think the city will benefit. All of these people will be going out to eat somewhere close by..... maybe even some shopping too and out of towners are filling up the hotels I am sure. The city will benefit from that from the business that have to pay the city/county or state taxes on revenue made.
The actual memorial services aren't to last but 90 minutes from what I have heard.
imo
fyi Weitzman (probate attorney) for MJ on larry king next
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:07 PM
I can think of NOTHING tackier than wanting to dig up the body and replant it....... like it was a shrub ....just to make a buck!:thumbdown:
I did have my sister moved. She was in a masuleum (sp) though, I didn't have to dig her up. Thank goodness. I did move her though so she could be with my mom.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:08 PM
i know this sounds absolutely idiotic but i almost wonder if it really was his ghost because he would want that, and he tried to make it clear.
ok i need some meds i think..but it looked soo eerie and its almost hard to believe it was coincedence lol
*waits for the men in white jackets*:laugh::laugh:
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:09 PM
LKL is doing a thing at Forest Lawn right now...
And the reporter told Larry, all they know is that there is going to be a family gathering at Forest Lawn tomorrow, not sure if they are having a burial there. :confused:
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:09 PM
How appropriate then that the Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey Circus is scheduled to open Wednesday at Staples Center.
He would have loved that!
legalmania
07-06-2009, 09:09 PM
People are already standing around Forest Lawn
They just said that Forest Lawn is open to the public everyday from 8 to 5
I'm glad I'm on the other side of the US. I'll just watch this unfold on t.v.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:10 PM
Hope he gets home safe.
Thanks, I am sure he will figure it out. I just know I am not going to go pick him up. :laugh:
My Gal Sal
07-06-2009, 09:10 PM
It is so obvious that not one of these shows that airs nightly gives one whit about these three precious children or their feelings during the most tragic time of their lives. They have done nothing but spread mean spirited trash like asking the tabloidish question "Who's ya daddy?" interjecting their spin and smut. When each one of them knows full well who those children consider their father.
I hope one day as they get older they come out and set the media straight. A biological mother or father doesn't make a momma or a daddy. Blood has nothing to do with it but the love in the heart.....DOES!
They make me sick when they say "poor children":rolleyes: and don't skip a beat trying to hurt them and their family.
I detest the media more and more and more...
and more......lol
imo
Gentle.... I so agree with you.... I quit watching the News shows dedicated to MJ (and many others).... I come here to find the news..... I refuse to let them make any revenue from the advertising... LOL..
They just want to sensationalize and they don't really give us many facts... or they try to confuse us with giving so much innuendo.
Thank You!
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:11 PM
I'm glad I'm on the other side of the US. I'll just watch this unfold on t.v.
Same here. Larry King said you will get a better view watching it on TV
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Wasn't it the family that was originally planning to charge $25.00 a ticket???
I tried to get tickets... I planned on immediately selling them to some fool willing to shell out big bucks.
I didn't get a call:( Shame on you. :wink::laugh:
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks, I am sure he will figure it out. I just know I am not going to go pick him up. :laugh:
Rent a helicopter to get him
They can let him down like they did to Lucy on that one episode
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:13 PM
fyi Weitzman (probate attorney) for MJ on larry king next
thanks.:smile:
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:14 PM
Wasn't it the family that was originally planning to charge $25.00 a ticket???
I tried to get tickets... I planned on immediately selling them to some fool willing to shell out big bucks.
I didn't get a call:(
Hurry check your email. People didn't get a phone call, they got emails
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:14 PM
fyi Weitzman (probate attorney) for MJ on larry king next
This guy on LKL is saying that the two guys in charge of the estate, made a ton of money for MJ.
legalmania
07-06-2009, 09:15 PM
Well it's time for me to workout so I'll talk later. Let me leave you with a little MJ we're gonna miss you.
----------------
Now playing: Michael Jackson - Gone Too Soon (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/michael_jackson/track/gone_too_soon)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
Mamie
07-06-2009, 09:16 PM
Wasn't it the family that was originally planning to charge $25.00 a ticket???
I tried to get tickets... I planned on immediately selling them to some fool willing to shell out big bucks.
I didn't get a call:(
I read it was AEG.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:17 PM
WOW, talk about bad plastic surgery, did you see DR's former attny.???:scared::scared:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Rent a helicopter to get him
They can let him down like they did to Lucy on that one episode
If we had the cash, I am sure he would. :laugh:
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:19 PM
WOW, talk about bad plastic surgery, did you see DR's former attny.???:scared::scared:
LOL I was about to post the same thing
Talk about a stretched face
Did you see here in the end checking herself out in the monitor? lol
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Gentle.... I so agree with you.... I quit watching the News shows dedicated to MJ (and many others).... I come here to find the news..... I refuse to let them make any revenue from the advertising... LOL..
They just want to sensationalize and they don't really give us many facts... or they try to confuse us with giving so much innuendo.
Thank You!
Hi there MGS,
Just my personal opinion only but I think many in our society have been falling for this crap for a very long time. The media has spoon fed us on what they want us to believe and it is nothing close to the truth. They wouldn't know what to do with the truth or the FACTS.
Sorry for the rant but I am so sick of the media. They have become nothing more than bottom feeders.
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Well it's time for me to workout so I'll talk later. Let me leave you with a little MJ we're gonna miss you.
----------------
Now playing: Michael Jackson - Gone Too Soon (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/michael_jackson/track/gone_too_soon)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
That is sad.
*vc being nasty alert*
I see a comparison bw DR's attorney and MJ.....
ok back to regularly scheduled posting, Weitzman i think was excellent on LKL.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:20 PM
LOL I was about to post the same thing
Talk about a stretched face
That was horrible. YIKES
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:22 PM
This guy on LKL is saying that the two guys in charge of the estate, made a ton of money for MJ.
Great!:smile:
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:22 PM
*vc being nasty alert*
I see a comparison bw DR's attorney and MJ.....
ok back to regularly scheduled posting, Weitzman i think was excellent on LKL.
I was actually thinking about what Prisilla P. did to her face. Had that not-dr. injection parties or something. Ewwwww.
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:25 PM
They extended the hours for people picking up their tickets
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:26 PM
You know if he is buried at Forest Lawn.. can you imagine the fans that will eventually go to his burial site... it will be a circus just like everywhere that Michael went in his life.
I am just kind of wondering if eventually after the proper paperwork is done if he won't be buried at Neverland.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:28 PM
*vc being nasty alert*
I see a comparison bw DR's attorney and MJ.....
ok back to regularly scheduled posting, Weitzman i think was excellent on LKL.
Seems like Larry King is going.
He really liked MJ a lot.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:29 PM
You know if he is buried at Forest Lawn.. can you imagine the fans that will eventually go to his burial site... it will be a circus just like everywhere that Michael went in his life.
I am just kind of wondering if eventually after the proper paperwork is done if he won't be buried at Neverland.Didn't they have to move Elvis because of something like this?
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Seems like Larry King is going.
He really liked MJ a lot.
imo
I have to admit I wasn't surprised by what they said about why Liz Taylor wasn't going... kind of sad but I guess she can memorialize him in her own way..
The list of people being there is kind of odd to me.. doesn't sound like a group that MJ would of actually wanted.. but hey that's just my opinion..:confused:
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Hi Dino -- IF the permit is approved he would be moved to Neverland. Jermaine said there is even a spot picked out already.
Under his fav. tree, the one he would climg to think and write some songs?
Hi there MGS,
Just my personal opinion only but I think many in our society have been falling for this crap for a very long time. The media has spoon fed us on what they want us to believe and it is nothing close to the truth. They wouldn't know what to do with the truth or the FACTS.
Sorry for the rant but I am so sick of the media. They have become nothing more than bottom feeders.
imo
Larry Kings have been really well done, i am appreciating his coverage.
It is nice to know that someone can be respectful.
imo
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:32 PM
Hi Dino -- IF the permit is approved he would be moved to Neverland. Jermaine said there is even a spot picked out already.
I look at it this way.. if he was behind the gates of Neverland.. then they would have control of the tourist aspect of it.. kind of like Elvis is.. if he remains at Forest Lawn.. it's going to be endless.
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:34 PM
You know if he is buried at Forest Lawn.. can you imagine the fans that will eventually go to his burial site... it will be a circus just like everywhere that Michael went in his life.
I am just kind of wondering if eventually after the proper paperwork is done if he won't be buried at Neverland.
I don't think it is a bad idea, but with SB, I just don't see it happening. Anywhere but there. They will fight it tooth and nail.
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:34 PM
Donald Trump saying MJ use to play with the Trump kids all the time and he is not a child molester
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Donald Trump is on LKL right now.. what a great interview.. can't wait till the transcript comes out tomorrow.. he is speaking how intelligent he was, what a great business man he was... very interesting interview.
The family has called Trump numerous times today asking if he was coming for the memorial.. but he said he just can't make it. He has very very fond memories of Jackson, he actually lived next to Trump.. in Trump towers... who knew...:confused:
omg.. i never thought that something Donald Trump would make me teary. His comment that that MJ lost his self confidence in the last 10-15 years did it for me.
I also love how he described MJ and kids and certain not a child molester, he just adored kids.
It seems the people close to him and top of their own celebrity all knew he was not a molester and many like Donald had seen him interact with their own kids..that MJ would come over to play with his young kids.
imo
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:37 PM
I don't think it is a bad idea, but with SB, I just don't see it happening. Anywhere but there. They will fight it tooth and nail.
Doesn't mean they have to turn it into a tourist attraction.. (not that it would stop the fans..) but if it's private property I guess if you can get the approval you can be buried anywhere you want..
Who knows.. I'm sure the ones well off would say no to the idea but I bet the hotels and restaurants wouldn't have a problem with it.. :rolleyes:
RootBeer
07-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Didn't they have to move Elvis because of something like this?
Presley, Vernon Elvis b. April 10, 1916 d. June 26, 1979
Father of Elvis Presley. He was born in Fulton, Mississippi, the oldest of 5 children. Vernon's parents were Jessie D. McClowell Presley and Minnie Mae Hood Presley. He liked music and had a good singing voice. He also enjoyed working on cars. He met Gladys Love Smith in Tupelo, Mississippi. They were married on June 17, 1933 in Ponotoc County, Mississippi. Vernon was often unemployed and worked as a milkman, carpenter, farm hand and truck driver. The family rented a house on the edge of...[Read More] (Bio by: Jane Eubanks)
Graceland Mansion Estates, Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee, USA
Presley, Elvis Aaron [original burial site] b. January 8, 1935 d. August 16, 1977
Singer, Actor, The King of Rock and Roll. He was born to Vernon and Gladys Presley in Tupelo, Mississippi. His twin brother, Jessie Garon, was stillborn. He and his parents moved to Memphis, Tennessee in 1948. He graduated from Humes High School in 1953. In 1954, he began his singing career with the Sun Records label in Memphis. In late 1955, his recording contract was sold to RCA Victor. He went to Nashville to record his first records for RCA. On January 28, 1956, he made his television debut...[Read More] (Bio by: Jane Eubanks)
Forest Hill Cemetery-Midtown, Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee, USA
Plot: Mausoleum
www.findagrave.com
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:39 PM
Donald Trump saying MJ use to play with the Trump kids all the time and he is not a child molester
He was emphatic about it too and he has known Michael a long time. He said that Michael just loved children.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:40 PM
Family friend is saying he doesn't even know if the burial is happening tomorrow at Forest Lawn. Also thinking a burial happened sometime later today or is happening now somewhere
This was just said on LKL
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:41 PM
omg.. i never thought that something Donald Trump would make me teary. His comment that that MJ lost his self confidence in the last 10-15 years did it for me.
I also love how he described MJ and kids and certain not a child molester, he just adored kids.
It seems the people close to him and top of their own celebrity all knew he was not a molester and many like Donald had seen him interact with their own kids..that MJ would come over to play with his young kids.
imo
I wonder how MJ would have been looked at 40-50 yrs. ago, with his way with kids. I don't know if he just loved kids or not. Didn't follow the trial, and don't want to rehash it now. But, people are so much more careful now, and more aware of child molesters with the internet, that I do think it is very possible that his way was misunderstood. I don't know, just thinking out loud. :shrug:
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Family friend is saying he doesn't even know if the burial is happening tomorrow at Forest Lawn. Also thinking a burial happened sometime later today or is happening now somewhere
Sure would be a way to fool the media.. I hope they can pull it off at least for the kids sake... they do need some privacy to grieve.. so far they haven't had any.. again.. I'm thinking more of the kids.. JMO
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:44 PM
Larry King talking about the ghost now
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:44 PM
Doesn't mean they have to turn it into a tourist attraction.. (not that it would stop the fans..) but if it's private property I guess if you can get the approval you can be buried anywhere you want..
Who knows.. I'm sure the ones well off would say no to the idea but I bet the hotels and restaurants wouldn't have a problem with it.. :rolleyes: To just have him buried there, yes that is possible. I know when they were going to have the service there, there were quite a few business people that were excited about it.
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 09:44 PM
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Father of Elvis Presley. He was born in Fulton, Mississippi, the oldest of 5 children. Vernon's parents were Jessie D. McClowell Presley and Minnie Mae Hood Presley. He liked music and had a good singing voice. He also enjoyed working on cars. He met Gladys Love Smith in Tupelo, Mississippi. They were married on June 17, 1933 in Ponotoc County, Mississippi. Vernon was often unemployed and worked as a milkman, carpenter, farm hand and truck driver. The family rented a house on the edge of...[Read More] (Bio by: Jane Eubanks)
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After someone tried to steal Elvis' body from the mausoleum and they moved him to Graceland, I was so glad. That mausoleum was ugly and spooky. It still is a big tourist attraction though. I don't think they ever placed anyone back in the area he was in after they moved him.
imo
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:45 PM
Sure would be a way to fool the media.. I hope they can pull it off at least for the kids sake... they do need some privacy to grieve.. so far they haven't had any.. again.. I'm thinking more of the kids.. JMO
That is what the family friend said. Thinks they might have fooled the media
dinojen
07-06-2009, 09:45 PM
LMBO... ok.. sorry I'm not a big GHOST person.. but LKL is showing the video right now of the ghost of MJ..
Who knows.. could be.. maybe it's not... just endlessly bizarre...
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:48 PM
LMBO... ok.. sorry I'm not a big GHOST person.. but LKL is showing the video right now of the ghost of MJ..
Who knows.. could be.. maybe it's not... just endlessly bizarre...
You know, I watched it on LKL just now. It was clearer than the video I posted, and in a way it does look like MJ.
truthdiscern
07-06-2009, 09:48 PM
When he said MJ was NOT a child molester - he also said "I am certain of it".
glad he said it...i dont like trump..but at least he said it..might have been nice before he died however..jmo
I don't think it is a bad idea, but with SB, I just don't see it happening. Anywhere but there. They will fight it tooth and nail.
If i was the majority owner, along with Branca and mcclaine for the 24% i would make it close to impossible for SB to say no.
What i would do is as the property is being put back in order, and getting it as the old Neverland in some ways, i would allow free tours of the property. By not charging, its not a "business" and the crowds will be enormous especially since it is free.
Watch SB prefer to make tax revenue and the neighbors have some sort of control over it, perhaps tour buses etc than just a "free" for all by keeping it zoned as private or agricultural. There are ways :D
IMO
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:49 PM
LMBO... ok.. sorry I'm not a big GHOST person.. but LKL is showing the video right now of the ghost of MJ..
Who knows.. could be.. maybe it's not... just endlessly bizarre...
Well now they might as well open up Neverland, cause everyone is going to go there now to "feel" his presence. :ohmy:
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:52 PM
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so its ok to charge 200 to park but its not ok to sell tickets for as much as they can get for them? double standard here. jmoThe tickets had no face value. It is illegal to sell them
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:53 PM
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OMG u cant be serious. lmao
Before you bait and go any further, no I don't believe it was him. All I said was the shadow did resemble him in away
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:54 PM
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so its ok to charge 200 to park but its not ok to sell tickets for as much as they can get for them? double standard here. jmo
Hey hey now, I didn't have a problem with selling tickets. I figured if someone wanted them bad enough and someone wanted to sell them, oh well. I didn't want people to not get what they paid for. I have a bigger problem with the parking. I don't really know why. Except for the fact that there aren't that many places to park, and once you are there you are stuck. People didn't have to buy the tickets, but they do have to park.
FallenAngel♥
07-06-2009, 09:54 PM
*vc being nasty alert*
I see a comparison bw DR's attorney and MJ.....
ok back to regularly scheduled posting, Weitzman i think was excellent on LKL.
Ohhh i thought she was maybe the love child of MJ and that cat lady (Jocelyn Wildenstein) :scared:
Explained the shadow - was a shadow from one of the people working in the house or one of many of the network people and there was a lighting fixture in the middle of the room which created the shadow :biggrin: Miko says - he wishes it was MJ.
lol, the fans aren't going to accept that especially since the producer could not say WHO it was, just tht it was either someone in the house or perhaps from another network
:D
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 09:56 PM
Ohhh i thought she was maybe the love child of MJ and that cat lady (Jocelyn Wildenstein) :scared:
EWWWWWWWW the cat lady is soooooooo scary.
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:56 PM
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Its high time Larry retire. jmo
Um Larry covered it because the film came from when he was there with his crew touring the house
incidentally
07-06-2009, 09:58 PM
Explained the shadow - was a shadow from one of the people working in the house or one of many of the network people and there was a lighting fixture in the middle of the room which created the shadow :biggrin: Miko says - he wishes it was MJ.
I agree. It seemed obvious to me it was the shadow of someone working for the network or in the house. I watched it until my eyes were crossed and it's glaringly obvious to me, it's the shadow of a real, very much alive person.
4Life
07-06-2009, 09:59 PM
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Larry covered it for sensationalism. jmo
Sure for the whole 20 secs he covered it
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 10:02 PM
I agree. It seemed obvious to me it was the shadow of someone working for the network or in the house. I watched it until my eyes were crossed and it's glaringly obvious to me, it's the shadow of a real, very much alive person.
Oh come on don't ruin their fun. Those fans are going there. :laugh:
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 10:03 PM
glad he said it...i don't like trump..but at least he said it..might have been nice before he died however..jmo
He has said it before. He has never thought MJ was a child molester.
imo
CinderL.
07-06-2009, 10:04 PM
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Larry covered it for sensationalism. jmo
Come on Bubbles, they are running out of things to talk about now. Let us have our ghost. :tonguewag:
GentleBreeze
07-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Um Larry covered it because the film came from when he was there with his crew touring the house
Right, it was his crew that was there.
He was trying to show it wasn't MJ although I am sure some will want to still believe it was.
imo
sunstar
07-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Just jumping in for a minute...
Whoa!!! Debbie Rowe is really ticked!!!!
What a mess!
I've seen that video clip countless times tonight just in the past couple of hours since I've been home. Somebody on JVM's show said DR had been hit by an overzealous paparazzi. Who knows! :scared:
who_is_it
07-06-2009, 10:11 PM
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so its ok to charge 200 to park but its not ok to sell tickets for as much as they can get for them? double standard here. jmo
No double standard here. They just have to leave their big, fat SUVs at home and go by public transportation.
"Why are we focusing on the United States? Because it consumes far more energy than any other country -- more than China and Russia put together. Just five percent of the world's population consumes 23% of its energy!"
http://worldpopulationbalance.org/population_energy
No one here said that the fans should buy the tickets offered by scalpers!
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