Sarah Palin resigns as Alaska governor

[daniel green]

"In a sit down with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, the Alaska Republican said she had made no decision on her political future, whether in-state or nationally. "I'm not definitely going to do anything yet," she said. "What I'm trying to get done for Alaska right now is to get that Alaska gas line built. We need those energy sources flowing through North America. That's what my focus is." Palin's hesitancy in declaring her 2012 plans is expected. But her declining to commit to running for reelection could spark additional speculation that she is clearing her calendar with eyes on higher office. Several weeks ago, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty said he would not seek a third term in office, leading to suggestions that he would seek the Republican Party's nod in 2012"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/palin-refuses-to-commit-t_n_214816.html

Just as Ortiga predicted!

[theal3]

Tough decision for her, as in Alaska her popularity has fallen and the risk would be losing election to a 2nd term, which would throw her out for 2012 candidate, and many GOPers say it's too soon for her to run in 2012, still not enough credentials. But if she won a 2nd term, and it was successful, she'd be in line well for 2016. Then if she wins the Gov. seat, does she give it up to run in 2012? Catch 22 for her, IMHO. And if she doesn't run for a 2nd term, and doesn't run in 2012, what to do in2016, she'll have been a has been.

[SeeksJustice]

"Governor Sarah Palin is sleeping with the enemy of many Alaskans. Her trip to Houston, Texas to discuss a merged project with TransCanada and Exxon Mobil betrays Alaskans still reeling from last year's devastating Supreme Court verdict. It flies in the face of anyone with a memory of 20 years let alone last June. Exxon promised to "make Alaskans whole" and they never did; just another broken promise piled on top of all the others."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/palin-matchmakes-for-a-ga_b_214472.html

I thought she showed all those Oil Companies who was the boss...did she claim something like that when she first got elected and "worked the deal" with them?

[Lady_Jean_La]

No comment. No commitment. Pretty typical for a politician. I imagine she would save any announcement for the appropriate time. imo

[daniel green]

"Governor Sarah Palin is sleeping with the enemy of many Alaskans. Her trip to Houston, Texas to discuss a merged project with TransCanada and Exxon Mobil betrays Alaskans still reeling from last year's devastating Supreme Court verdict. It flies in the face of anyone with a memory of 20 years let alone last June. Exxon promised to "make Alaskans whole" and they never did; just another broken promise piled on top of all the others."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/palin-matchmakes-for-a-ga_b_214472.html

[YoYo]

No comment. No commitment. Pretty typical for a politician. I imagine she would save any announcement for the appropriate time. imo

Exactly.....

[ortiga]

No comment. No commitment. Pretty typical for a politician. I imagine she would save any announcement for the appropriate time. imo


If she wanted to be governor again, she would announce that right away, IMO. There are several people (R) that want the job if she doesn't run, and she would be helping the party if she announced one way or another. Because, in the meantime, the dem contenders are gaining force from all her questionable battles and skirmishes.

IMO

[Lady_Jean_La]

If she wanted to be governor again, she would announce that right away, IMO. There are several people (R) that want the job if she doesn't run, and she would be helping the party if she announced one way or another. Because, in the meantime, the dem contenders are gaining force from all her questionable battles and skirmishes.

IMOI think it is typical to not announce an intention to run. It is also good to announce an intention not to run once everyone has been made aware confidentially. I think the public will be the last to know. imo

[Alliekat]

A non sequitur...or is it word salad. :confused:

[YoYo]

:wink::wink:

[daniel green]

If she wanted to be governor again, she would announce that right away, IMO. There are several people (R) that want the job if she doesn't run, and she would be helping the party if she announced one way or another. Because, in the meantime, the dem contenders are gaining force from all her questionable battles and skirmishes.

IMO


But, of course.

Seems you called this one 100% right, Ortiga.

I don't know that she could win again, and seems like she knows it.

[ortiga]

But, of course.

Seems you called this one 100% right, Ortiga.

I don't know that she could win again, and seems like she knows it.

I sense a kind of turning point this week though. After that business with "will she won't she" "she won't come unless she gets to speak" early in the week, it seems like more moderate republicans are starting to state their case against her, publicly albeit hesitantly. ie Scarborough, Peggy Noonan, more whose names I don't remember. (I believe the turning point was the Palin camp leaking to Politico). Before it seemed like there was kind of a hermetic seal that no one would say, in effect, she's still not ready. But now they are after this week of bizarre appearances and news. But she may be so tone deaf as to not notice...and may give up running for the next term in AK. But I don't think the republicans will choose her, if they were going to, they would keep that seal on their opinions instead of leaking them out.

Such a dilemma, she has to give up running for gov BEFORE knowing if they will choose her.......:laugh:


IMO

[daniel green]

(I believe the turning point was the Palin camp leaking to Politico). snipped
IMO

Interesting. You know what? I bet you are absolutely right about that.

[Alliekat]

I sense a kind of turning point this week though. After that business with "will she won't she" "she won't come unless she gets to speak" early in the week, it seems like more moderate republicans are starting to state their case against her, publicly albeit hesitantly. ie Scarborough, Peggy Noonan, more whose names I don't remember. (I believe the turning point was the Palin camp leaking to Politico). Before it seemed like there was kind of a hermetic seal that no one would say, in effect, she's still not ready. But now they are after this week of bizarre appearances and news. But she may be so tone deaf as to not notice...and may give up running for the next term in AK. But I don't think the republicans will choose her, if they were going to, they would keep that seal on their opinions instead of leaking them out.

Such a dilemma, she has to give up running for gov BEFORE knowing if they will choose her.......:laugh:


IMO

Peggy Noonan has never been a Palin fan from day one. Remember when Noonan was caught on tape bashing McCain's choice of Sarah Palin on MSNBC after she thought the mic was off. Because Palin is able to draw a crowd for the Republicans like a side circus does not qualify her for running for President......and they know this too! Palin will not be re-elected Governor either should she run.

[LisaM22]

"In a sit down with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, the Alaska Republican said she had made no decision on her political future, whether in-state or nationally. "I'm not definitely going to do anything yet," she said. "What I'm trying to get done for Alaska right now is to get that Alaska gas line built. We need those energy sources flowing through North America. That's what my focus is." Palin's hesitancy in declaring her 2012 plans is expected. But her declining to commit to running for reelection could spark additional speculation that she is clearing her calendar with eyes on higher office. Several weeks ago, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty said he would not seek a third term in office, leading to suggestions that he would seek the Republican Party's nod in 2012"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/palin-refuses-to-commit-t_n_214816.html

Just as Ortiga predicted!

I think she knows if she runs there is a good chance she will lose, tough call for her to make imo

[YoYo]

What's the obsession with Sarah Palin?

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/105964

To deflect from the disappointing job Obama is doing. MO

[ortiga]

I agree. She needs to sit down and study the issues facing the country and the world. Every time she rears her head to make a statement about a molehill she makes it into a mountain. If she seriously wants
to be a politician she needs to learn what's important, when to speak
up and when to shut up. The first thing she needs to do is know what she's talking about before she adds to her laughingstock image. She just keeps on and on and on about non-consenquential things just to get her name in the paper and her face on the talk shows.

"For that to happen, though, Dowd thinks Palin needs to move beyond celebrity. She can do that, he said, by advancing a substantive values argument in her upcoming book. Another option, he suggested, would be to host an academic forum on economics in which she puts forth her own opinions. She's bright and charismatic but needs to prove substance, he said.

"She's got to get back in the news sections and out of the style sections and People magazine coverage," he said."

Matthew Dowd opinion (republican strategist)

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1096716.html

[ortiga]

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/830200.html

And long, balanced report today from Alaska's major paper:

"But as in the presidential campaign, Palin continues to be very polarizing. On the national level, many seem to either love her or deeply dislike her. Her supporters will hear a Palin speech or interview and declare her brilliantly in touch with regular Americans and their values. Critics dismiss her as not being presidential material -- and worse.

"She has crossed the line from political figure into celebritydom," said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. "But she's also demonstrated how polarizing and controversial she is, even with the Republican leadership."

[ortiga]

IMO, she doesn't want to, and won't. I think it's human nature to avoid what you don't understand:wink:

I don't know if she would define celebrity as her goal, but that's been the result of her political methodology. I think she may have been partly undermined by having an unprofessional staff, who encouraged her to respond to each and every headline that would get HER a headline, such as weighing in on the runner up to Miss USA, trashing Levi, yesterday saying that Obama was "the candidate who must be obeyed" then rambling on about the "ticket", as though she were still campaigning, but in the LAST election. etc. So we'll probably never know if it was her staff that encouraged the celebrity or if she got her staff to jump on any chance for a headline.

In any case, IMO it's pretty hard to back up and take another fork in the road toward a substantive image. Reagan did it, but all he really had to overcome was a hollywood background, not what she has decided to make a stand on, ie being a victim.

IMO

[joolz]

I agree. She needs to sit down and study the issues facing the country and the world. Every time she rears her head to make a statement about a molehill she makes it into a mountain. If she seriously wants
to be a politician she needs to learn what's important, when to speak
up and when to shut up. The first thing she needs to do is know what she's talking about before she adds to her laughingstock image. She just keeps on and on and on about non-consenquential things just to get her name in the paper and her face on the talk shows.

A forty-five year old politician with national political aspirations should not have to start to study and learn the issues facing our country. You don't wake up in your mid-forties and suddenly decide, "gee, it would be cool to be president." If she doesn't know the major issues inside and out by now, if she hasn't been strongly interested and involved in them for many years, she's not qualified to be a leader, not in my book. Playing catch-up is not acceptable. jmo

[joolz]

I totally agree. I was really surprised the other day when I heard Chris Mathew's say 'she needs to crack open some books'. She has never shown to me that she was intellectually qualified to even be in the office she holds now..let alone President of the United States.

imho

ITA Bunny. I have a huge problem with people not expecting more depth of knowledge and intellectual curiosity from their elected officials. IMO, "cracking open some books" should have started oh, about forty years ago for her. As for the office she holds now, that's Alaska's problem to handle as they see fit. Re-elect her, don't re-elect her, not my concern. But on a national level? No way, now how! jmo

[FallenAngel♥]

To deflect from the disappointing job Obama is doing. MO

LOL.........do you think Palins doing a good job as Gov or helping her party?

[Lady_Jean_La]

Comedy relief from all the serious stuff going on in the world.
Another Ross Perot! Maybe she can start her own party. imo

[YoYo]

LOL.........do you think Palins doing a good job as Gov or helping her party?

Good job? As "good" as Obama has so far, yes.

[FallenAngel♥]

Good job? As "good" as Obama has so far, yes.

honestly do you know how to stay on topic?
this threads NOT about Obama.
So i'll ask you again...........do you feel like Palins doing a good job in Alaska and do you think she's helping her party?

[YoYo]

honestly do you know how to stay on topic?
this threads NOT about Obama.
So i'll ask you again...........do you feel like Palins doing a good job in Alaska and do you think she's helping her party?

And here I was thinking you and I had reached a new level of understanding. :wub:

[FallenAngel♥]

And here I was thinking you and I had reached a new level of understanding. :wub:

ohhhhhhhhhhh yes i understand you love to change the subject.
i'm NOT putting Palin down. I'm just asking your opinion of her and you only want to talk about Obama. I just don't get that.

I said months ago i didn't think Palin would be re-elected. In fact i'm starting to think she wants to get closer to DC so she might want to run for Congress in 2010.

[ortiga]

A forty-five year old politician with national political aspirations should not have to start to study and learn the issues facing our country. You don't wake up in your mid-forties and suddenly decide, "gee, it would be cool to be president." If she doesn't know the major issues inside and out by now, if she hasn't been strongly interested and involved in them for many years, she's not qualified to be a leader, not in my book. Playing catch-up is not acceptable. jmo

I don't think it's possible to be thought of as a real leader without a background in history. Not enough for her to be up on the latest issues and offer a "stump the candidate" game to quiz her on the name rulers of other nations. She can study up, and should ANYWAY, whether or not she runs, just for her own benefit in life. But one question from a normally qualified journalist will throw her off as she hasn't paid much attention to national issues in the past, IMO. For instance, Blitzer asked her what she thought about the president's mid east speech, after a pause came up with something about wishing he would have said what great friends we are with Israel, some kind of answer/no answer but fill up the space. Obviously she hadn't read it or not retained what was in it. Neither did I, but I'm not trying to be president.

In the last election it was stated by many in her base that they would vote for her because she is like them, she is like us, however it was put. Honestly, the LAST person I want in office is someone who has suddenly discovered national politics and "is like us".

IMO

[Lady_Jean_La]

The party of 'wink' maybe?:confused:

:wub:Oh, I love it!

[YoYo]

ohhhhhhhhhhh yes i understand you love to change the subject.
i'm NOT putting Palin down. I'm just asking your opinion of her and you only want to talk about Obama. I just don't get that.

I said months ago i didn't think Palin would be re-elected. In fact i'm starting to think she wants to get closer to DC so she might want to run for Congress in 2010.

I'm not sure what Gov. Palin's aspirations are at this point in time. I think her rating fell as a result of all of the negative media she rec'd during and post election, and I'm not not sure recent rating reflect how the people of Alaska feel about her. In any event she's still has a 59% approval rating - which is my opinion is very good .....and plenty of time to improve that based on her continued positive contributions to the welfare of her state before 2010. My personal choice - 2012.

[dinojen]

I sincerely don't get it..

There are 38... count them THIRTY EIGHT... gubernatorial contests between now and Nov. of 2010 and the only concern this board has is if Gov. Palin is going to run for re-election... just amazing...:rolleyes:

http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/gov2010

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=183&gclid=CL6-qsudipsCFQ6jagodzRnPoQ

There are other states in the country besides Alaska... and they have just as big of issues as some on this board like to think only Palin has..

JMHO

[ortiga]

This is what happened in the election when the VP candidate became better known by national voters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html
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This is what happened in Alaska when the governor became better known: (Oct 3-6 08)

http://washingtonindependent.com/10986/poll-palins-disapproval-rating-hits-new-high
59% down from approx 89%.
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And here are the most recent figures after she became even better known in Alaska: (5 May 09)
http://www.haysresearch.com/oc050509.htm




Note it is not 59%.

[ortiga]

I sincerely don't get it..

There are 38... count them THIRTY EIGHT... gubernatorial contests between now and Nov. of 2010 and the only concern this board has is if Gov. Palin is going to run for re-election... just amazing...:rolleyes:

http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/gov2010

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=183&gclid=CL6-qsudipsCFQ6jagodzRnPoQ

There are other states in the country besides Alaska... and they have just as big of issues as some on this board like to think only Palin has..

JMHO

Why don't you start some threads about other races where the governors are thought to be running for president or governor?

Do you think that any governor elected in 2010 will be running for president in 2012?

Which other governor would be running for reelection in 2010 that has a PAC, a defense fund, an ethics violation, etc?

[ABC]

I sincerely don't get it..

There are 38... count them THIRTY EIGHT... gubernatorial contests between now and Nov. of 2010 and the only concern this board has is if Gov. Palin is going to run for re-election... just amazing...:rolleyes:

http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/gov2010

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=183&gclid=CL6-qsudipsCFQ6jagodzRnPoQ

There are other states in the country besides Alaska... and they have just as big of issues as some on this board like to think only Palin has..

JMHO
Well, thats the thing. The Governor is so outstanding and connects to the people so well, she IS the only game in town. :thumbup: 53% or 59% approval rating. You Go Gal!!!!

[ortiga]

Palin is the subject of the CNN interview referred to in the OP.

[ortiga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMwv74rIGDU&feature=related

Here's what she said about her possible plans for 2012 even before the election was over. McCain aides characterized as "speechless" when read her quote by a CNN reporter.

[ABC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMwv74rIGDU&feature=related

Here's what she said about her possible plans for 2012 even before the election was over. McCain aides characterized as "speechless" when read her quote by a CNN reporter.

I don't put much stock in McCain's aides as they helped run the worse Presidental campaign in my memory. I am okay with them being "speechless".

[ridrea]

To deflect from the disappointing job Obama is doing. MO

Exactly! If the left didn't feel so threatened by Sarah they would not be so obsessed with trashing her!

[ortiga]

http://sarahpac.com/news/news31.aspx


I smell fear. JMO :wink:


What I smell is dishonesty in the sources, and posters, that keep insisting that she has not been found guilty of an ethics violation. She sure WAS found to have violated the Alaska Branch Ethics Laws, re troopergate. And the governor was actually telling a lie when she said: ""The truth was revealed there in that report that showed there was no unlawful or unethical activity on my part."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/oct/14/sarah-palin/report-finds-palin-violated-ethics-laws/

""Finding Number One" of the report is "that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Branch Ethics Act."

Specifically, the statute reads: "The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

Her response drew a rare "pants on fire" rating for the gov:

" Those all may be legitimate arguments, or not. But the issue here is Palin’s characterization that the report concluded that she did not do anything ethically wrong. The report concluded just the opposite. The report says she did abuse her authority and she did violate state ethics laws. By saying otherwise repeatedly, in what seems to be a deliberate attempt to mislead or confuse voters who don't know the facts, Palin isn't just wrong, she's Pants on Fire! wrong."

[Lady_Jean_La]

I sincerely don't get it..

There are 38... count them THIRTY EIGHT... gubernatorial contests between now and Nov. of 2010 and the only concern this board has is if Gov. Palin is going to run for re-election... just amazing...:rolleyes:

http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/gov2010

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=183&gclid=CL6-qsudipsCFQ6jagodzRnPoQ

There are other states in the country besides Alaska... and they have just as big of issues as some on this board like to think only Palin has..

JMHO

It would be interesting to see a poll but I'm guessing Governor Palin is the most hated governor and hate is very powerful. imo

[ridrea]

I sincerely don't get it..

There are 38... count them THIRTY EIGHT... gubernatorial contests between now and Nov. of 2010 and the only concern this board has is if Gov. Palin is going to run for re-election... just amazing...:rolleyes:

http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/gov2010

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=183&gclid=CL6-qsudipsCFQ6jagodzRnPoQ

There are other states in the country besides Alaska... and they have just as big of issues as some on this board like to think only Palin has..

JMHO

I think the Republicans would have won the election if Sarah had been running with another presidential candidate, especially Huckabee. She was thrown to the wolves on a national stage and never really had a chance but her day is coming :biggrin:

[ridrea]

It would be interesting to see a poll but I'm guessing Governor Palin is the most hated governor and hate is very powerful. imo

I think you forgot to finish your post, didn't you mean most hated by the liberals?

[ABC]

I think the Republicans would have won the election if Sarah had been running with another presidential candidate, especially Huckabee. She was thrown to the wolves on a national stage and never really had a chance but her day is coming :biggrin:


I doubt the Republican could have won, no matter who they ran in the last GE. The people were tired of the Repubs but I think by the 2012 GE, the people will be tired of the Dems, particularly if the economy continues to tank. The Governor did great in her three months of campaigning. Brought in Millions and millions of dollars, a committed group of voters which will only improve with a viable candidate with her on the ticket. I like Rudy G. as VP. Sarah Palin is and one reason the Dems are so scared of her. The Governor saved McCain from a landslide defeat.

[ridrea]

I doubt the Republican could have won, no matter who they ran in the last GE. The people were tired of the Repubs but I think by the 2012 GE, the people will be tired of the Dems, particularly if the economy continues to tank. The Governor did great in her three months of campaigning. Brought in Millions and millions of dollars, a committed group of voters which will only improve with a viable candidate with her on the ticket. I like Rudy G. as VP. Sarah Palin is and one reason the Dems are so scared of her. The Governor saved McCain from a landslide defeat.

With the biased MS media some probably were disappointed with conservatives but as close as the election was (regardless of what BO's supporters claim, it was not a landslide) and liberal controlled congress since '06, I'm not so sure the Republicans didn't have a chance.

[ABC]

With the biased MS media some probably were disappointed with conservatives but as close as the election was (regardless of what BO's supporters claim, it was not a landslide) and liberal controlled congress since '06, I'm not so sure the Republicans didn't have a chance.
No, it was not a landslide. Serious students of elections know the Governor saved the day and prevented a landslide from occurring.

[Lady_Jean_La]

:shrug: Even with the age/health issue, Sen McCain as a moderate probably would have had a better showing. However, saddled with Ms anti dis and dat, we will never know. Difficult to say, what might have happened had Sen McCain been running with a younger moderate.

He would have lost. imo Not difficult at all.

[ridrea]

No, it was not a landslide. Serious students of elections know the Governor saved the day and prevented a landslide from occurring.

Plus there was so much emphasis put on McCain's age, that hurt too.

[Lady_Jean_La]

I think you forgot to finish your post, didn't you mean most hated by the liberals?Yes.

:wub:

[ortiga]

No, it was not a landslide. Serious students of elections know the Governor saved the day and prevented a landslide from occurring.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?_r=1

Growing Doubts on Palin Take a Toll, Poll Finds

"The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents."

[daniel green]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?_r=1

Growing Doubts on Palin Take a Toll, Poll Finds

"The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents."

Yep.

The exit polls showed, clearly, that Palin was the major reason why Republican and Independents who had supported McCain till the convention voted Democratic.

And her actions since the election and those of her extended family members have been the last nails on the coffin, sortaspeak.

[ridrea]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?_r=1

Growing Doubts on Palin Take a Toll, Poll Finds

"The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents."

LOL! Good ole liberal NY Times! What'd you expect them to say! LOL!

[daniel green]

"Over sixty percent of voters said that she was manifestly unqualified — that obviously includes many Republicans. Other polls have shown Palin was the most cited reason for voting against McCain by voters. While she clearly did bring out the hardcore faithful, she also clearly scared off the independents and moderates are that were essential for a win. Click here. Not only did McCain pick someone viewed as an extremist, but he succeeded in highlighting the age factor since many people were not willing to risk that Palin could be president given McCain’s advanced years. Vice presidents seldom do much to help a candidate, but Palin is an example of how they can hurt a candidate. McCain spent much of the campaign after the convention answering questions about his vice president rather than the issues. With all of the negative issues already pulling down the campaign, it took real effort to find the one candidate who would top those issues as a negative for voters. In key swing states, the margin given away with Palin might have made the difference for McCain."

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/05/exit-poll-palin-hurt-ticket-with-vast-majority-of-voters/

[daniel green]

"GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin didn't do well in exit polls. Sixty percent of those polled said the Alaska governor is not qualified to be president if necessary; 38 percent said she is. That compares with the two-thirds of those polled who said Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden is qualified to be president and the 31 percent who said he isn't."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/index.html?iref=24hours

[Brat2002]

And here I was thinking you and I had reached a new level of understanding. :wub:

Wishful thinking, IMO.

What amazes me is the LW hate and the constant bashing of Palin no matter what she does. If she dares be offended by a horrible joke about her young daughter, she is chastised. If she doesn't commit to running again, she is bashed. Yet when someone asks a legitimate question or has real concern about you-know-who's policies, they are accused of bashing.

[flareon]

LOL! Good ole liberal NY Times! What'd you expect them to say! LOL!

I know. They are a hoot. Next they will pull out the Huffington Post as though it is the bastion of unbiased content. :biggrin:

[ridrea]

"Over sixty percent of voters said that she was manifestly unqualified — that obviously includes many Republicans. Other polls have shown Palin was the most cited reason for voting against McCain by voters. While she clearly did bring out the hardcore faithful, she also clearly scared off the independents and moderates are that were essential for a win. Click here. Not only did McCain pick someone viewed as an extremist, but he succeeded in highlighting the age factor since many people were not willing to risk that Palin could be president given McCain’s advanced years. Vice presidents seldom do much to help a candidate, but Palin is an example of how they can hurt a candidate. McCain spent much of the campaign after the convention answering questions about his vice president rather than the issues. With all of the negative issues already pulling down the campaign, it took real effort to find the one candidate who would top those issues as a negative for voters. In key swing states, the margin given away with Palin might have made the difference for McCain."

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/05/exit-poll-palin-hurt-ticket-with-vast-majority-of-voters/

Opinion blog, LOL! We'll see in 4 years after Obama ;)

[ridrea]

"GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin didn't do well in exit polls. Sixty percent of those polled said the Alaska governor is not qualified to be president if necessary; 38 percent said she is. That compares with the two-thirds of those polled who said Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden is qualified to be president and the 31 percent who said he isn't."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/index.html?iref=24hours

LOL! Good ole liberal CNN! What'd you expect them to say! LOL!

[daniel green]

Laughed out loud at the comments re exit polls.

[vonna]

:thumbsup: Sarah Palin for Governor :thumbsup:

Yes, keep her there so she can continue monitoring Russia from her front porch.

[daniel green]

:no: Jonathan Turley is certainly not 'just some blogger.' Perhaps are thinking of Jonah Goldberg, pundit-at-large. Jonathan Turley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Turley)

And he was covering the election results/night for the BBC.

[ridrea]

:no: Jonathan Turley is certainly not 'just some blogger.' Perhaps are thinking of Jonah Goldberg, pundit-at-large. Jonathan Turley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Turley)

And must be a liberal for you to be reading?

[daniel green]

"ABC News will conduct exit polls in all 50 states on Election Day, along with polling partners CBS, CNN, Fox, NBC and The Associated Press. These news organizations comprise the National Election Pool, which contracted with Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International to run the exit polls. The data gathered in these polls provide the best source of information about who voted, for whom they voted and why.
Data gathered in Election Day exit polls provide the best source of information about who voted, for whom they voted and why."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5973947&page=1

Everyone has the same exit polls, not a lib/conservative thing. :rolleyes:

[ridrea]

"ABC News will conduct exit polls in all 50 states on Election Day, along with polling partners CBS, CNN, Fox, NBC and The Associated Press. These news organizations comprise the National Election Pool, which contracted with Edison Media Research/Mitofsky International to run the exit polls. The data gathered in these polls provide the best source of information about who voted, for whom they voted and why.
Data gathered in Election Day exit polls provide the best source of information about who voted, for whom they voted and why."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5973947&page=1

Everyone has the same exit polls, not a lib/conservative thing. :rolleyes:

If they all use the same exit polls, why does it matter how qualified the blogger is? Why hang on to old news, she didn't win, why does the trashing continue?
Like I said, let's see where we are in 4 years when Obama is done!

[ortiga]

If they all use the same exit polls, why does it matter how qualified the blogger is? Why hang on to old news, she didn't win, why does the trashing continue?
Like I said, let's see where we are in 4 years when Obama is done!

The old links came up because someone on this thread posted the same old same old about Palin garnering so many many votes for the ticket. Also someone posted the same old dishonest link that says that Palin was not found in violation of the ethics law. Another poster misrepresented Palin's standing in the latest polls in Alaska.

As long as posters are going to keep on misrepresenting the news, the facts, etc, it's important to post to the links that tell what truly did happen.

Obama may be very unpopular in 4 years, and Palin may learn a lot in 4 years, and the stars may "shift positions"..... as Biff Rose used to say.

In any case, posting opinions and links is not "trashing" a politician.

IMO

[ridrea]

The old links came up because someone on this thread posted the same old same old about Palin garnering so many many votes for the ticket. Also someone posted the same old dishonest link that says that Palin was not found in violation of the ethics law. Another poster misrepresented Palin's standing in the latest polls in Alaska.

As long as posters are going to keep on misrepresenting the news, the facts, etc, it's important to post to the links that tell what truly did happen.

Obama may be very unpopular in 4 years, and Palin may learn a lot in 4 years, and the stars may "shift positions"..... as Biff Rose used to say.

In any case, posting opinions and links is not "trashing" a politician.

IMO

Carry on, we just have a different opinion of what trashing/bashing means.

[Lady_Jean_La]

I know. They are a hoot. Next they will pull out the Huffington Post as though it is the bastion of unbiased content. :biggrin:

:scared:But who would open the link?:scared:

[flareon]

:scared:But who would open the link?:scared:

Well, they would but then again they are the ones who are always posting it. :biggrin:

[LisaM22]

If she wanted to be governor again, she would announce that right away, IMO. There are several people (R) that want the job if she doesn't run, and she would be helping the party if she announced one way or another. Because, in the meantime, the dem contenders are gaining force from all her questionable battles and skirmishes.

IMO

I do not think she is thinking of anyone but herself, but that is just my opinion

[ABC]

I think the Governor may be running for the Senate. :laugh:

[daniel green]

I think the Governor may be running for the Senate. :laugh:

Why on earth would she do that--against AK's favorite politician? :confused:

[ABC]

Goody!!!!!! I can't wait for that spectacle to begin. :lol: SNL, get ready! :lol:

mo

Or resigning from the Governor job when she becomes the first women President in 2012. :thumbsup:

[daniel green]

Or resigning from the Governor job when she becomes the first women President in 2012. :thumbsup:

But she is not even saying she is gonna run for Gov again. :huh:

[ABC]

Why on earth would she do that--against AK's favorite politician? :confused:
The Governor is Alaska's favorite politician. They love her as does millions of Americans.

[daniel green]

The Governor is Alaska's favorite politician. snipped.

That's just not true.

Murkowsky is. The polls have been linked for you time and time and time again.

But here it is, yet again.

http://community.adn.com/node/140971

[daniel green]

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/03/30/murkowski_viewed_more_favorably_than_palin.html

[daniel green]

Murkowski:
71.6% somewhat/very positive
20.9% somewhat/very negative

Palin:
59.8 somewhat/very positive
34.9 somewhat/very negative

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Murkowski_more_popular_than_Palin.html

[ABC]

:lol: Whatever she runs for, if anything, you can be sure SNL will be on board ready to go. That woman has provided more material for that show than anyone else in the history of SNL. :lol:

I can't tell you the countless hours of laughing I have spent while watching her interviews, and on the campaign trail. Actually, her career may lie in comedy, and not politics.



mo
Countless hours watching the Governor's interviews??? Really????

[ortiga]

Murkowski:
71.6% somewhat/very positive
20.9% somewhat/very negative

Palin:
59.8 somewhat/very positive
34.9 somewhat/very negative

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0309/Murkowski_more_popular_than_Palin.html

Those pesky polarizing negatives.

[ortiga]

"Take a leaf out of Hillary’s book, Sarah. (Or from Condi Rice, for that matter. Clinton's predecessor in the job likewise knows how to disappear herself for a bit while she recoups and rebrands.) Bide your time, don’t waste it. Study up—and shut up. If you were a real power woman, we wouldn’t be hearing from you right now, so soon after your vice presidential flameout. You’d be too busy preparing yourself for the day when you have something to say worth hearing."

What Hillary Can Teach Sarah Palin

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-14/what-hillary-can-teach-sarah-palin/2/

--------------------------------------------
Insight by Tina Brown

[daniel green]

"Take a leaf out of Hillary’s book, Sarah. (Or from Condi Rice, for that matter. Clinton's predecessor in the job likewise knows how to disappear herself for a bit while she recoups and rebrands.) Bide your time, don’t waste it. Study up—and shut up. If you were a real power woman, we wouldn’t be hearing from you right now, so soon after your vice presidential flameout. You’d be too busy preparing yourself for the day when you have something to say worth hearing."

What Hillary Can Teach Sarah Palin

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-14/what-hillary-can-teach-sarah-palin/2/

--------------------------------------------
Insight by Tina Brown

I'd just read that, Ortiga, and was coming over to post it! I thought it was a very good piece, and very interesting. Showed the huge difference between the women.

[Lady_Jean_La]

"Take a leaf out of Hillary’s book, Sarah. (Or from Condi Rice, for that matter. Clinton's predecessor in the job likewise knows how to disappear herself for a bit while she recoups and rebrands.) Bide your time, don’t waste it. Study up—and shut up. If you were a real power woman, we wouldn’t be hearing from you right now, so soon after your vice presidential flameout. You’d be too busy preparing yourself for the day when you have something to say worth hearing."

What Hillary Can Teach Sarah Palin

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-14/what-hillary-can-teach-sarah-palin/2/

--------------------------------------------
Insight by Tina Brown

Who wants a real power woman? :confused:

[ridrea]

Countless hours watching the Governor's interviews??? Really????

I guess we'll see a complete meltdown when she wins another election .... 2nd term governor ..... house of reps ..... senate ..... VP or first female president ??? LOL!

[ridrea]

ITA with what Rush Limbaugh stated today on the radio--sorry, no link today--It will be out probably later today or tomorrow. I'll post it then.

He said you can hear what the liberals are telling you if you just listen. They are afraid of Sarah Palin and all that she brings to the table. That is why they try so hard to bring her down as a woman, a conservative, and so forth. Destroy the one you fear the most.

I think he hit the nail on the head with this logical theory.

JMHO

You bet! They pounced on her the second she was announced as VP candidate and they get more vicious every day!

[ABC]

I think Sarah should just keep on doing what she is doing. It's working. If the libs find fault with it, then it HAS to be good.

JMHO:thumbsup:
You betcha. And we not only have the beautiful smart Governor but Carrie Prejean, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter. No wonder its working. NOW, thats some beautiful and smart women.

[daniel green]

You betcha. And we not only have the beautiful smart Governor but Carrie Prejean, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter. No wonder its working. NOW, thats beautiful women.

What's working? And what does a fired Miss Calif have to do with anything political?:confused:

[FallenAngel♥]

I think Sarah should just keep on doing what she is doing. It's working. If the libs find fault with it, then it HAS to be good.

JMHO:thumbsup:

what is she doing that is working? have you not looked at her polls in Alaska lately? and why are the GOP running from her?

[ABC]

what is she doing that is working? have you not looked at her polls in Alaska lately? and why are the GOP running from her?

She brought out 20,000 in Albany NY, is collecting millions for the Party and yes, she has a 53 or 59% approval rating, which is terrific for any politician. She has IT and will be our first women President. Most folks love her. I know I do and so do at least 59 plus millions of Americans.
You Go Gal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wink::wink:

[daniel green]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-12/palin-cant-outsmart-letterman/?cid=bsa:mostpopular2

By Margaret Carlson.

[FallenAngel♥]

She brought out 20,000 in Albany NY, is collecting millions for the Party and yes, she has a 53 or 59% approval rating, which is terrific for any politician. She has IT and will be our first women President. Most folks love her. I know I do and so do at least 59 plus millions of Americans.
You Go Gal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wink::wink:

20K's really not a lot.
but YES she is collecting millions for the party. Congrats about that.
IF MOST people loved her then McCain would have won the election. and i love how you want to make it sound like ALL 59 million people voted for ONLY Palin..........
Right now a LOT of republicans do NOT love her. You can go look up some of the things GOP have said and some of her polls.

IMO she will NOT be on the ticket in 2012. The GOP now realize she's way too much an extreme right to help them.

[daniel green]

but YES she is collecting millions for the party. Congrats about that.
snipped.

Is she, really? Do we have any evidence of that?

TIA

[daniel green]

All I'm saying is PLEASE field her for 12! Pretty please...:wink:

Me, too. But they won't. :sad: Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

I had such high hopes for a Jindal/Palin ticket.:mad:

[FallenAngel♥]

Is she, really? Do we have any evidence of that?

TIA

Palin raises $1 million over lunch for GOP
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/528508.html


$10 Million Woman: Palin a Hit with GOP Donors
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5700022&page=1

Palin to raise money for Murkowski re-election bid
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2009Apr08/0,4670,PalinMurkowski,00.html

[daniel green]

Thx, Angel!!

1 and 2 were before the Nov election.

3 says she plans to host a fundraiser for Murkowsky.

I really just have not read anything that says she has been out raising money for the GOP.

[Lady_Jean_La]

20K's really not a lot.
but YES she is collecting millions for the party. Congrats about that.
IF MOST people loved her then McCain would have won the election. and i love how you want to make it sound like ALL 59 million people voted for ONLY Palin..........
Right now a LOT of republicans do NOT love her. You can go look up some of the things GOP have said and some of her polls.

IMO she will NOT be on the ticket in 2012. The GOP now realize she's way too much an extreme right to help them.

The GOP doesn't have superdelegates. jmo

[daniel green]

The GOP doesn't have superdelegates. jmo

What does that have to do with anything? :confused:

[Lady_Jean_La]

What does that have to do with anything? :confused:Popular vote will win. jmo

[daniel green]

Popular vote will win. jmo

Well, yeah.

And that's why Palin will not win the nomination.

[Lady_Jean_La]

Well, yeah.

And that's why Palin will not win the nomination.But the GOP could not stop a candidate who does win. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

:lol: Did you miss the last election? Sure seems the GOP stopped McCain.

:confused:He was nominated.:confused:

[FallenAngel♥]

Thx, Angel!!

1 and 2 were before the Nov election.

3 says she plans to host a fundraiser for Murkowsky.

I really just have not read anything that says she has been out raising money for the GOP.

Ok maybe i should have said she DID raise millions for the GOP.

[FallenAngel♥]

Popular vote will win. jmo

that's the MAIN reason why she will NOT be the nominee IMO

[Lady_Jean_La]

Ok maybe i should have said she DID raise millions for the GOP.She sure did and drew the huge crowds. jmo

[FallenAngel♥]

:confused:He was nominated.:confused:

and it was all down hill from there.

[ABC]

Me, too. But they won't. :sad: Once bitten, twice shy and all that.

I had such high hopes for a Jindal/Palin ticket.:mad:
Actually, its going to be Palin/Rudy G. 2012. For the People

[Lady_Jean_La]

HE was nominated. That would not have happened had he stood by Leiberman ( his first choice for running mate ). He got saddled with Palin and so nominated, and so the election was lost. Clear enough?
Whatever. That's history. I don't think there is much to learn there. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/107326

I remember when Palin was announced as the VP candidate on McCain's ticket because my brother, an Obama volunteer, texted me something to the effect of ‘thanks for the free election, sucker'. I'm sure the color drained out of his face when the immediate reaction in the polls was to bring the Republican ticket within the margin of error, and, in some polls, ahead of Obama.



2012 could get awfully interesting

[FallenAngel♥]

http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/107326




2012 could get awfully interesting

oh gesh a blog entry .................LOL

[FallenAngel♥]

My thought also. I sincerely hope they didn't learn their lesson and put her back into play for 12.:biggrin:
blogs and AOL polls are loved by the right for some reason.


I wish them luck in 2016 because it will probably take them that long to get their stuff straight.

[Lady_Jean_La]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/15/all-presidents-emails

Anyway, so: if you do decide to accept the offer, here's how it would work. The title would be president's special envoy to Palau, and you'd have responsibility for overseeing the integration of the Uyghur detainees after they leave Guantanamo. To do your job properly, you'd really have to move to the remote Pacific archipelago, and probably, you know, stay there for ever and never leave. But it's beautiful there - similar to Alaska in lots of ways, I think. As you'll find out when you get there. WH travel office can sort tickets. (Or should I say "ticket"?!) Am keen to get moving on this asap.
Warmly,
Barack

[daniel green]

Actually, its going to be Palin/Rudy G. 2012. For the People

Not in a million years.

[daniel green]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/15/all-presidents-emails

I think you must have posted this in the wrong thread. It has nothing to do with the topic. :confused:

[daniel green]

:lol: When in doubt .... albeit that would be a tough squeeze anywhere, if making sense were a criterion.

For real, Reaper.

What on earth. :huh:

[Lady_Jean_La]

I think you must have posted this in the wrong thread. It has nothing to do with the topic. :confused:

I think any offer the governor gets could have a bearing on her running for re-election. Serious or speculative adventures could be more attractive than another term as governor.

Of course, if I am wrong, feel free to skip the link. imo

[daniel green]

I think any offer the governor gets could have a bearing on her running for re-election. Serious or speculative adventures could be more attractive than another term as governor.

Of course, if I am wrong, feel free to skip the link. imo

What on earth do SPOOF emails, a joke, have to do with this thread???????? :confused:

[ABC]

Any, and all of those positions require a majority vote. Exactly who do you think is going to vote for her? She's going to require a few more votes than the few hundred she'll get, if she's lucky. As long as she keeps talking, that number will "continue" to dwindle. :lol:

mo
For starters, I think the 59 million plus who voted for her in the last GE, after only three months of campaigning too. I think a lot of Hillary supporters will be coming over to vote for her when she is the top of the ticket. I like Rudy G. but Mitt or Charlie or Bobby will do, too.:thumbsup:
I have only heard Carrie talk a few times on Fox and if course, during the Trump press conference. She was very bright and articulate and not a "You Know" or "Ummm" spoken. Lots of folks saw her on these occassions and of course, the pageant clip so I think trying to portray Carrie as dumb is a hard, if not impossible sell. Would love to see those NYT reporters interview her.

[daniel green]

Good question! I've met Prejean on two occasions, Daniel. snipped

Yikes, I'm sorry, alpha.

[daniel green]

I think a lot of Hillary supporters will be coming over to vote for her too when she is the top of the ticket. snipped:

Never gonna happen.

[ABC]

Hate to disagree but that was McCain they voted for....Not her.:wink:
Reap, you are one of my favorites, man. Would never lie to you. I ran to the polls to vote for the Governor and so did 59 million others. Sadly, the Senator, in my opinion was only along for the ride.

[Lady_Jean_La]

You still don't get it do 'ya? John McCain was running for President. He was the "CHOICE" on the ballot, not Palin. Why is this so hard for "some" to grasp?? :wink:Maybe it is very hard for those who voted for Governor Palin in spite of Senator McCain being on the ballot. Why is that so hard to grasp?

:thumbup:

[Lady_Jean_La]

*SNIPPED FOR BANDWITH*****

Last time, Palin was not the candidate running. Sen. McCain was. We do not vote for the VP in this country, they come with the Pres. choice. OK? :blink:

moSome do vote for the VP, just the way it is. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

That may be why you voted for Sen. McCain, but you can't speak for the rest of the voters now, can you? :wink: Most of them were voting for their choice for Pres. You, on the other hand, were voting for the running mate. :lol:

moJust one person doing it, proves it can be done. imo

[joolz]

Just one person doing it, proves it can be done. imo

Proves what can be done? :confused:

[Lady_Jean_La]

I ever so agree. Who votes for the VP candidate?:blink:
I think a few people voted for Senator Biden. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

We need someone like Sarah Palin. Only those that fear her are against her, IMHO.And the ones who hate her. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

And your opinion is important how? :confused:

Some people take these discussions very seriously. :laugh:

[Lady_Jean_La]

:rolleyes: In all due respect, a few of you seriously need to stop projecting. Can't speak for others, but I can assure you I neither fear nor hate her. However, given her credentials? No wonder Sen McCain lost.I seriously don't think any Republican could have won. It is easy to say McCain did this, or the governor did that, but it was the Democrats turn and they were going to win.

John McCain was just the figurehead to represent a losing cause. jmo

[Lady_Jean_La]

I completely disagree. He was their best shot. Had the GOP buckled on the Leiberman issue and let the two of them run it could have been different. Palin hurt him.I completely disagree.

:laugh:

[Brat2002]

Oh Lawdy -- that's a winning combination not ...... don't let Rudy G and 9/11 confuse you. Three wives; the second he married after cheating on his first and met the third cheating on his second with the use of NYC funds and he has been estranged from his children. New York doesn't even like Rudy G; cannot imagine him trying to lead a country when his own home was out of control. JMHO

Gee, maybe he should be more like Bill Clinton. Not that he should change, just learn to be a better liar.

[Brat2002]

You "think"?? Where do you come up with this stuff? I know it's your "opinion", but it really means nothing. Why post such nonsense? Just curious. :blink:

mo

I like Lady Jean's posts and find her to be fair and articulate so I'll stick with reading her's over some that are truly nonsense.

[Brat2002]

I think there was legitimate concern that McCain wouldn't last 4 years, given his advanced age, leaving this country with a leader who isn't qualified for the position.

imo...of course.

I think she was better qualified than what we have now.

[theal3]

It's hard to tell who will emerge. I think it depends on the 2010 elections, Gov. and Senate Races and if they gain back any seat or lose more seats; and at the state level, too, where leaders emerge. The stats to watch will be the 9 or so states that Barack won, that Bush formerly won in 2000, and 2004. With the loss of so many seats in 2006 and 2008, they lost many of their "leaders," and therefore the infrastructure of the GOP organization. The country is aging, demographics are changing. It all factors in, IMHO.

The electoral map is the one to watch moving towards 2012, and that develops bases on how states legislatures and Gov's emerge. It's all about party building within states.

[Brat2002]

You're kidding, right? :lol: From where I sit, she isn't exactly qualified to be Governor of Alaska, much less qualified for anything else. MO

However, she is a member of the right wing - gop, so she must be qualified in the eyes of the rest of the right wing - gop. Perfect! :wink: That's all it takes.

mo

You're wrong about how conservatives think. It's way more complicated, but nice try.

[juliekan]

You're kidding, right? :lol: From where I sit, she isn't exactly qualified to be Governor of Alaska, much less qualified for anything else. MO

However, she is a member of the right wing - gop, so she must be qualified in the eyes of the rest of the right wing - gop. Perfect! :wink: That's all it takes.

mo

You sit in the land of always asking for links and this icon

:lol:

From where you sit, you are not an Alaskan citizen, they think she is qualified to be Governor.

JMO

[YoYo]

Hmmm... Obama won ~53% of the popular vote.

Palin is currently somewhere in the 54% range. Looks to me like she still has a shot. :tonguewag:

Certainly she has a shot at anything she wants. Why else would she continue to get so much attention. In the washed-up arena her 15 minute clock would have stopped running after the election. Has that happened? No, and it doesn't appear it's going to. GO PALIN - 2012

[joolz]

The "smartest" energy policy?

Don't renovate for energy conservation, deny 28 million dollars worth of energy funds to try to make a point to her lower 48 base. (pointless to Alaskans, of course, who turn to Hugo Chavez for heating oil instead). Her solution is to take tax money from the state's oil producers and dole that out to households, from new born baby to every single person in the family, to burn up instead of encouraging energy conservation. Her "energy policy" is a disaster.

The soap opera part she does excel at.


Palin needs to begin her belated education with learning the word "dignity." Then she can move on to those pesky subjects like history and geography. jmo

[YoYo]

Palin needs to begin her belated education with learning the word "dignity." Then she can move on to those pesky subjects like history and geography. jmo

JMO - but Gov. Palin has shown as much "dignity" as some others in the political world, and I don't see them get their daily/continuous racking over the coals. So, again - IMO - she's here to stay.

[ortiga]

http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/061909/opi_7_001.shtml

"But the governor seems to go out of her way to keep herself in the national spotlight, and does so in ways that bring attention to the state that is often less than favorable: an on-again, off-again, on-again speaking engagement at a national GOP fundraiser in Washington; the whole daughter Bristol/Levi Johnson soap opera; and more recently the feud with entertainer David Letterman (which greatly distracted the gasline partnership announcement).

Those things were distracting, and frankly were a waste of time. Gov. Palin needs to decide soon what she's going to do with the next year: run the state of Alaska or run for national office."
-----------------------------------------------------
The Prime Time of Sarah Palin

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/97807/The_prime_time_of_Sarah_Palin

"Palin knows she has pizazz, and she's sticking to it. As long as the conventions of television enable it, her skillful deployment of attitude—charm, hurt, outrage, flirtatiousness—can substitute for answers. It's hard to argue with the results: She has become a famous politician without actually mastering anything in particular."
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[rowstreeter]

Pretty marvelous finds. Thanks for that!

[CrazyJosephine]

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/06/30/john-mccains-campaign-staffers-unload-on-sarah-palin/?icid=main|main|dl7|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politic sdaily.com%2F2009%2F06%2F30%2Fjohn-mccains-campaign-staffers-unload-on-sarah-palin%2F

Since this is part of McCain's political staff, I hope this is allowed here. I'm not sure though, an inside view.

[Justice4All2]

Ms. Palin announced today that she will be stepping down at the end of the month and her lieutenant governor will be taking over. She still had about a year and a half left to go in her term.

There is already speculation that she wants to concentrate all her energies on a possible run for the presidency in 2012. She said she didn't want to be a "lame duck" governor.

Personally, I think she owes it to the constituency that elected her to stick it out unless there is a compelling reason to step down such as health. It's not like she's facing a scandal a la the governor of South Carolina.

What do you all think?

[panache]

Wow! I am just stunned.

[porchlight]

I wish Sanford had resigned as well. Not because of his affair, because quite frankly, that should be between he and his wife. I do care that he disappeared for days, leaving SC fairly "stuck" had an emergency arisen.
The timing makes me wonder if there isn't more behind Palin's decision.

[Casspian]

She couldn't stick it out? It will be interesting to see what is written about this in the coming days. Maybe she was getting too much pressure to actually do Governor duties and just couldn't keep ignoring that? :confused:

[LisaM22]

I wish Sanford had resigned as well. Not because of his affair, because quite frankly, that should be between he and his wife. I do care that he disappeared for days, leaving SC fairly "stuck" had an emergency arisen.
The timing makes me wonder if there isn't more behind Palin's decision.

makes you wonder if there is another affair out there and Plain decided to call it quits, something made her do this, she did not want to imo - sure we will find out soon enough

[LisaM22]

wonder what else was in those emails she has been hiding all this time? are they about to be released?

[wondering?]

Mrs. Palin has a motive, not yet known to the public, for "stepping down"!
She has already made a poor impression on the voters and this is just one more thing, leave before the leaving gets difficult!

And as far as being picked on by the liberals and media, yea, right!
She should have known before she let her name be put on the ballot with Sen. McCain that she just does not have the knowledge or the stamina for such a position.

This just proves it!

She'll do a book tour, make lots of money as the victim!

[porchlight]

wonder what else was in those emails she has been hiding all this time? are they about to be released?

I think there is something there. Perhaps some ethics violations to come to light. Of course, I was amazed that her husband's politics were just swept under the rug. He belonged for years to a group who advocate the secession of Alaska from the Union. Sarah also addressed this same group. So I had a problem with the idea that she would protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
I don't know how anyone could possibly take her seriously as a candidate for any other office when she quits in the middle of her first term as governor.

[porchlight]

You need to add the Republicans as well. Other than the base, the rest of her party has been just as judgemental and with good reason. She was waaaay out of her realm of expertise as a VP candidate and an embarassment to the Republicans. The drama queen needs to go be a princess somewhere else.
:w00t::w00t: LOL

[bkwits]

You need to add the Republicans as well. Other than the base, the rest of her party has been just as judgemental and with good reason. She was waaaay out of her realm of expertise as a VP candidate and an embarassment to the Republicans. The drama queen needs to go be a princess somewhere else.

I agree with everything you have said. I've always loved John McCain but could not vote for him in the last election. One of the 3 top reasons was his choice of Palin for VP. Her politics are mostly opposite of mine, she is inexperienced and ill-informed, and I have a mild dislike for her personality.

With all that being said, I am upset and angered that certain media have chosen to cruelly make fun of her young daughter and of her special needs baby. That is over the top in meanness and unfairness. I do hope Palin will privately work for the benefit of children, especially disabled children.

IMO

[watchu]

CNN and other major news outlets have reported that Sarah Palin has abruptly resigned as governor of Alaska. The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.

Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002. The home was built just two months before Palin began campaigning for governor, a job which would have provided her enhanced power to grant building contracts in the wide-open state.
SBS has close ties to the Palins. The company has not only sponsored Todd Palin's snowmobile team, according to the Village Voice's Wayne Barrett, it hired Sarah Palin to do a statewide television commercial in 2004.

thedailybeast.com

[porchlight]

Did she really say politics had become a ""superficial, wasteful bloodsport?"

[ortiga]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31756939/ns/politics-more_politics/

Alaskans say Palin had gone fishing on the job

""The drumbeat of adverse news coverage from Alaska would likely have continued and intensified had she remained governor," said Juneau economist and longtime Alaska political watcher Gregg Erickson. "It would have become an increasing liability to her national campaign."

[ortiga]

Empire editorial: Alaska better off without Sarah Palin

http://juneauempire.com/stories/070509/opi_459496145.shtml

"We say good for her, however, because it's been nearly a year since the first-term governor has acted like she actually wanted the job. Still unknown, however, is why Palin is calling it quits, though her press office has given numerous reasons for why she isn't. They say:

• It wasn't because Palin can't take the criticism that comes with being an elected official.

• It wasn't because she is planning to run for higher office.

• It wasn't because of bad press and bloggers."

[ortiga]

http://newsminer.com/news/2009/jul/04/palins-departure/?opinion

"The most telling evidence that she now cares more about herself than finishing out the job she was elected to came in her galling failure to explain exactly why she is resigning. She owes Alaskans a real explanation, not the offered “reason” that she doesn’t want to be a lame-duck governor and have to take lots of trips like lame-duck governors do. “They kind of milk it. And I’m not going to put Alaskans through that,” the governor said at her news conference Friday.

So don’t put Alaskans through that. If that’s what bothers you, governor, serve out your term without milking it."

[LisaM22]

Apparently you have no family? Regardless of what I think of her, I don't think Palin owed anyone an explanation, she just gave you more to spin.
IMO

what? you think the people she represents do not deserve an explanation, she ran for office, and she quit midway through, I think she would owe them at the very least an explanation, though I do agree with palin, Alaska is better off without her as Governor, like the people said, she hasn't been doing much for them this last year anyways

[Circe]

Apparently you have no family? Regardless of what I think of her, I don't think Palin owed anyone an explanation, she just gave you more to spin.
IMO

If you had hired someone to do a job, and they just wandered in one day,and announced that they were just up and leaving with the job half done, that they just didn't feel like it anymore, and besides someone said something mean, you would not feel that you were owed an explanation,rather than a series of rather lame excuses?

Somehow, I think you'd want to know just why. And you'd have the right, IMO.

[LisaM22]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/sarah-palin-flashback-whi_n_225955.html

"Fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it. You gotta to plow through that. You have to know what you're getting into -- which, I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton, and to her experience and to her passion for changing the status quo also -- but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, 'man that doesn't do us any good' -- women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country, I don't think it bodes well for her, a statement like that. Because, again, fair or unfair, it is there, I think that's reality, and I think it's a given. I think people can just accept that she is going to be under the sharper microscope. So be it. I mean, work harder, prove yourself to an even greater degree that you're capable, that you're going to be the best candidate, and that of course is what she wants us to believe at this point. So it bothers me a little bit hearing her bring that attention to herself on that level."

Ummmmm......:huh:

that is just too much, that was palin saying that quote - my goodness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA15XU23kEc

[Circe]

that is just too much, that was palin saying that quote - my goodness

I think of that whenever one of her supporters talk about how everyone is just so mean to Palin. Seems to me that she can't even abide by her own views on how she thinks others should act.

[CindR]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/sarah-palin-flashback-whi_n_225955.html



Ummmmm......:huh:

That really makes her look foolish now imo.

[Veritas]

So many more pressing issues that our country is facing and here everyone is still discussing Sarah Palin. Comical. JMO

[Veritas]

LOL, closing threads, being snide because she's republican doesn't make it all go away. She was the front runner in many polls for 2012, and now she's completely exposed. Sorry, but I think rw'ers are embarrassed. .

I'm an Independent Conservative and I am not embarrassed. I do feel embarrassment for those that are more fixated on Sarah Palin than they are on matters that are important.

Fortunately for Sarah Palin, your opinion does not matter.

JMO

[ABC]

I'm an Independent Conservative and I am not embarrassed. I do feel embarrassment for those that are more fixated on Sarah Palin than they are on matters that are important.

Fortunately for Sarah Palin, your opinion does not matter.

JMO

And I am a Blue Dog Democrat and I am not embarrased either. :biggrin:

[CindR]

I'm an Independent Conservative and I am not embarrassed. I do feel embarrassment for those that are more fixated on Sarah Palin than they are on matters that are important.

Fortunately for Sarah Palin, your opinion does not matter.

JMO

Unfortunately for Sarah Palin, people's opinions do in fact matter quite a bit.

[MercedesV]

I'm an Independent Conservative and I am not embarrassed. I do feel embarrassment for those that are more fixated on Sarah Palin than they are on matters that are important.

Fortunately for Sarah Palin, your opinion does not matter.

JMO

It really depends on what Palin decides she wants to do in the future. If she is out of politics our opinions don't matter. So she should stop complaining about them all if they don't matter. But should she decide to run for office, our opinions are essential to her. Whether she likes it or not, if Palin wants to win National office, she needs more than the base that currently adore her. She needs to broaden her appeal, and reach many others who currently have negative opinions about her.

What is important can vary from person to person. And most people can follow more than one topic at a time. Palin is the current news. Some of us would feel much more comfortable if we knew for a fact she was out of politics forever. As long as she may become a candidate she is of interest.

[magythekat]

It doesn't have to, she did her 'own' self in!

Don't count her out yet...:smile: Time will tell...and Obama's snafu's will have a lot to do with her success or lack thereof. He isn't exactly making the people of this country feel comfortable. you should know that by the Opinion thread on "approval or disapproval" of the job he is doing...check it out.

[MercedesV]

Don't count her out yet...:smile: Time will tell...and Obama's snafu's will have a lot to do with her success or lack thereof. He isn't exactly making the people of this country feel comfortable. you should know that by the Opinion thread on "approval or disapproval" of the job he is doing...check it out.

If we shouldn't count her out yet, why are so many of her supporters so vehement in trying to shut down discussion of her? We should all just shut up and stop discussing her quitting the Gov's office. Every time there is a thread on Palin, her supporters try very hard to silence people. And that just isn't right, is it? There is zero tolerance for any criticism, as if she were perfect. And she isn't, is she? Because there isn't a one of us on earth that is. Why don't her supporters just sing her praises on those threads instead of working so hard to silence people?

Myself, I haven't counted her out yet. I will continue to watch closely what she does. In my opinion she is a dangerous person to have in political office. Others obviously disagree. That's part of what makes this country great.

Obama, in my opinion is doing a great job. I hope he continues to do so. I don't agree with everything he has done, I will continue to watch him closely. The majority of the American public seem to support him as well. A poll on this board is hardly a scientific poll and I doubt reflects what is happening in the country. It may provide entertainment for people, but it hardly reflects reality.

[LisaM22]

So many more pressing issues that our country is facing and here everyone is still discussing Sarah Palin. Comical. JMO

like it or not, her quiting was news

[Mimi428]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/alaskans-palin-had-gone-f_n_226157.html

I think this is the original source for the quote that came from the above link...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/05/politics/main5135013.shtml

The part that really struck me about the idea that she rejected the $29 million in funds for energy efficiency programs because she feared that 'strings' would be attached - is the sentence right after it -

Legislators said they could find no such strings.

The more I have read recently, the more I get the impression that she cannot tolerate any enduring scrutiny. Cannnot abide a situation where her feet would be held to the fire & she would have to ultimately answer for anything that could legitimately be described as less than peachy-keen. She has consistently projected an messianic image of herself - it isn't enough for her to be thought of as being ethical - she must be thought of as having "eye-popping ethics"! There are no reasonable challenges or criticisms or debate - they are attacks on a suffering martyr.

Her ultra-high approval ratings slid in her home state - & while her supporters are heartened that her approval ratings are still pretty good - she seems to have perceived the slide as something akin to a catastrophe'. After the election, she has been consistently described as being uninterested & uninvolved in the legitimate affairs of her own state - the place she says she loves & wants to work for. The state that had such enormous importance to her that she was willing to travel for many hours in active labor just so her baby would not be born someplace other than Alaska!

So what does she do when it is obvious that the bloom was off the rose in Alaska - she ditches them. Just walks away, leaving the legislature & the citizens to do the work that still needs to be done.

I don't know what her "higher calling" is going to turn out to be, but at the rate she has been going I half expect her to say that she will
be the replacement for the one who sits at the right hand side of God.

JMO

[Debb]

Maybe she's going back to school. It's not a bad idea. Really.

[LisaM22]

Maybe she's going back to school. It's not a bad idea. Really.

is there any left that she hasn't already started and quit

[ortiga]

"Palin ally: 'Life is not happy for her' right now"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/06/palin-ally-life-is-not-happy-for-her-right-now/

Family duties, commuting, financial difficulties cited by person close to her.

""Her life is very difficult," he said. "She cannot spend time with her family.""
------------------------------------------------
She refused to live in the governor's mansion where she would have had her family and job right there together. She is the first Alaskan governor to refuse to live there. She got a free SUV to drive to Anchorage every day from Wasilla, she got per diem to live in her own house and didn't pay IRS taxes on it until she was made to, she flew her kids around on trips that she charged to the state until she came up against a pertinent ethics complaint (for which she "voluntarily" paid >8,000, while saying the complaint was "dismissed"), she has a legal defense fund to pay for her legal bills, she has a PAC to pay for her travel and campaigning, She was found guily of ethics violations by the Alaska State Legislature and subsequently lied about it, saying she wasn't.

Assuming that she didn't quit because of health problems, I would say her life is not so "difficult", except for things that she brought upon herself.

She sets back the women-in-politics movement by light years.

IMO

[ortiga]

snipped

I don't know what her "higher calling" is going to turn out to be, but at the rate she has been going I half expect her to say that she will
be the replacement for the one who sits at the right hand side of God.

JMO

I think she will settle into being some combination of this generation's Phyllis Schafly (except that Schafly was well educated) and Anita Bryant (except that Bryant had a singing voice). Live on lecture fees, keep putting her children front and center, and drawing attention to her baby, especially. Keep moblilizing RW opposition to the "media" and what it did to her.

I predict it may soon be spun that she had to "sacrifice" her governor's job, which would fall right into the ideas in your last sentence.

[Mimi428]

Legally, when someone quits a job (as governor or any other) they don't have to give a reason, that I'm aware of.

<snipped>

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think it is significant that Repubicans who have been in politics & managing political campaigns for nigh on 40 years have exactly the opposite thing to say about it.

Ed Rollins is a perfect example - he sure as heck has been around long enough to know the difference between a politically positive vs negative move - & he was quoted as saying "I think the bottom line is you saw a shooting star come crashing to Earth".

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/04/earlyshow/main5132826.shtml?tag=pop

For all the nonsense that is being presented that her abandonment was a good thing, or no big deal, or others have done it before - there are counterpoints being made that are pretty unassailable - again, from Ed...

Rollins pooh-poohed political pros warning that people shouldn't underestimate Palin's ability to come back from any position of relative obscurity into which she risks falling.

"You have to remember, everybody else climbed the mountain; she got put on top of it by John McCain," he said. "We would not be talking about Sarah Palin if John McCain hadn't picked her (as his running mater).

"So, at the end of the day, she's still gotta earn her stripes."

... "She diminished the job of governor... I've never seen a governor ever walk away from the job at mid-term, and I think, at the end of the day, that's what's gonna affect her."

Her fan base may idolize her, but there are plenty of other Republican contenders who actually have climbed the mountain - & I think it is folly to believe those hardworking people are going to give up their own aspirations, lie down & let someone with her lack of education, experience, foreign & domestic knowledge & skills just stroll on down the aisle to pick up the 'political crown' as if it was something to be handed out at a beauty pageant.

JMO

[CindR]

Could be, but the list of competent women in politics is so short that if you blink you'll miss it.
IMO

LOL, and who would you put on this short list of yours? :laugh:

[ortiga]

Could be, but the list of competent women in politics is so short that if you blink you'll miss it.
IMO

And, I clearly remember weeks worth of threads on this very board, with posters adamantly putting Palin on a pedestal for being able to be a "successful" politician with so many young children. (In the end serving slightly over half her term). Many of us argued that probably none of us could handle so many mouths to feed, children to educate, a special needs child to raise, problems with teenagers, months on the stump,.....while performing professionally at the level needed to run this country. We weren't talking about running Ebay, or some Mom and Pop business, it was the VP and quite possibly the presidency.

She got to live at home, she got per diem, she got a free SUV to use, she got to bring her kids along until called on it, she got so many many perks that ensured that she could take care of her family while being governor. Yet, she still imploded, in effect, begging for peace from the media on one hand while manically demanding coverage from the press on the other hand. IMO

Palin invited the national press to her sudden news conference on Friday, she could have, instead, talked specifically to the people who elected her while explaining what it was that was causing her to abruptly quit being their governor, after the landslide election she won.

She is the most prominent women in politics right now (rightly or wrongly), and she really isn't helping the image of women in future elected positions.

IMO

[Mimi428]

I think she will settle into being some combination of this generation's Phyllis Schafly (except that Schafly was well educated) and Anita Bryant (except that Bryant had a singing voice). Live on lecture fees, keep putting her children front and center, and drawing attention to her baby, especially. Keep moblilizing RW opposition to the "media" and what it did to her.

I predict it may soon be spun that she had to "sacrifice" her governor's job, which would fall right into the ideas in your last sentence.

I was thinking about her taking on a similar role as Phyllis Schafly just the other day, when it was first announced that she was leaving. Palin has been shown a great deal of support from the most extreme of the religious right (& others, I'm not claiming those are her only supporters) - & that arena would seem to fit her apparent need for only adulation pretty well.

And I completely believe that the talk has already been thick in some corners about how any opposition to her has been led by Satan or satanic forces or the ungodly, etc.

Maybe she can go & advise Gov Sanford - or he can advise her! The two of them seem to be over their heads in denial that they have been hoisted on their own petards. Regular, human, mundane explanations are not good enough to explain their troubles. The only explanations than can suffice is that the troubles were all caused by the work of the devil, doncha know?

(I have an an ordained minister in the family, who has years of experience being on committees that deal with pastors who get themselves into significant problems. As soon as the person starts claiming that their thoughts & actions are divine (IOW, from God, not their own) & therefore any trouble is solely the work of the devil - it's a bad, bad deal)

JMO

[Mimi428]

Could be, but the list of competent women in politics is so short that if you blink you'll miss it.
IMO

How do you define 'competent women'? I can think of several female politicians that I disagree with on specific issues, but I sure wouldn't call them incompetent.

Kay Bailey Hutchison is a good example of someone who has worked for years climbing the mountain described by Ed Rollins. For Sarah Palin to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Sen Hutchison is an insult to KBH - & I don't agree with KBH on a whole lot of issues.

McCain has been described as having made a cynical choice when Palin was his pick for VP - & I strongly agreed with that assessment. It was a slap in the face to many Republican women politicians to have worked diligently & served honorably over the years & then see someone as lightweight as Palin nominated, IMO.

On some level, I was actually beginning to think that McCain ultimately chose her to create a backlash against future female candidates. That he made a spiteful choice, because he was pressured into not going with Lieberman, the person he actually wanted.

JMO

[LisaM22]

How do you define 'competent women'? I can think of several female politicians that I disagree with on specific issues, but I sure wouldn't call them incompetent.

Kay Bailey Hutchison is a good example of someone who has worked for years climbing the mountain described by Ed Rollins. For Sarah Palin to even be mentioned in the same sentence as Sen Hutchison is an insult to KBH - & I don't agree with KBH on a whole lot of issues.

McCain has been described as having made a cynical choice when Palin was his pick for VP - & I strongly agreed with that assessment. It was a slap in the face to many Republican women politicians to have worked diligently & served honorably over the years & then see someone as lightweight as Palin nominated, IMO.

On some level, I was actually beginning to think that McCain ultimately chose her to create a backlash against future female candidates. That he made a spiteful choice, because he was pressured into not going with Lieberman, the person he actually wanted.

JMO

unfortunately for mccain the religious right wanted Palin and without Palin he would lose their support, he sold out for votes, simple as that... and he still lost

[Veritas]

No link. Just internet rumor and speculation at this point.

Some are saying that Sarah is to take over the role of GOP Chairperson.

Interesting.

[Mimi428]

No link. Just internet rumor and speculation at this point.

Some are saying that Sarah is to take over the role of GOP Chairperson.

Interesting.

That certainly is an interesting rumor/speculation.

Who exactly are the folks that are initiating & repeating this sort of rumor? Hard to make even the first assessment of the validity unless you know the source.

JMO

[ortiga]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0706/p08s01-comv.html

From the Christian Science Monitor:

"Leaving public office is not the same as saying goodbye to a private-sector job. Public office is a contract with voters who (hopefully) take the time to inform themselves and fill out a ballot. Candidates win their trust, and in return, the public expects them to do the job – which is to represent citizens' interests and bring their own wisdom for the term of service. The bar for exit must be high."

[LisaM22]

No link. Just internet rumor and speculation at this point.

Some are saying that Sarah is to take over the role of GOP Chairperson.

Interesting.


:blink: LOL, now that is funny

[Veritas]

:blink: LOL, now that is funny

Almost as funny as this?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_jungle.mp3

[LisaM22]

Almost as funny as this?

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/multimedia/dean_jungle.mp3

yep, hopefully all the rumors will cause palin just to announce her real reason for quiting

[Hunky Dorie]

If we shouldn't count her out yet, why are so many of her supporters so vehement in trying to shut down discussion of her? We should all just shut up and stop discussing her quitting the Gov's office. Every time there is a thread on Palin, her supporters try very hard to silence people. And that just isn't right, is it? There is zero tolerance for any criticism, as if she were perfect. And she isn't, is she? Because there isn't a one of us on earth that is. Why don't her supporters just sing her praises on those threads instead of working so hard to silence people?

Myself, I haven't counted her out yet. I will continue to watch closely what she does. In my opinion she is a dangerous person to have in political office. Others obviously disagree. That's part of what makes this country great.

Obama, in my opinion is doing a great job. I hope he continues to do so. I don't agree with everything he has done, I will continue to watch him closely. The majority of the American public seem to support him as well. A poll on this board is hardly a scientific poll and I doubt reflects what is happening in the country. It may provide entertainment for people, but it hardly reflects reality.

I agree with what you are saying Mercedes. It seems that no one can talk about Palin. I wonder why she needs so much protection by her followers, except that apparently she cannot withstand any scrutiny. There is no way this country would elect her. I think 8 years of embarassment has been enough for most of us.

[Casspian]

"Palin ally: 'Life is not happy for her' right now"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/06/palin-ally-life-is-not-happy-for-her-right-now/

Family duties, commuting, financial difficulties cited by person close to her.

""Her life is very difficult," he said. "She cannot spend time with her family.""<respectfully snipped>

I don't think this family friend is doing her any favors with that explanation. :confused:

I wondered if there were big financial problems - as I said before, it almost seems like the Palins were relying on big perks to pay for so many extras (kid travel, SUV plus gas, etc.) and Sarah might have thought she'd get her legal expenses paid but didn't (?). They might be looking at paying more back as they did taxes and that 8 grand for kid travel (I believe).

Another thought came to mind, maybe she was asked to resign?

[Casspian]

unfortunately for mccain the religious right wanted Palin and without Palin he would lose their support, he sold out for votes, simple as that... and he still lost

BINGO! One of the biggest reasons he chose her and the one no one wants to talk about it seems.

[ortiga]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/palins-legacy-week-one/

Palin’s Legacy: Week One

[ortiga]

I don't think this family friend is doing her any favors with that explanation. :confused:

I wondered if there were big financial problems - as I said before, it almost seems like the Palins were relying on big perks to pay for so many extras (kid travel, SUV plus gas, etc.) and Sarah might have thought she'd get her legal expenses paid but didn't (?). They might be looking at paying more back as they did taxes and that 8 grand for kid travel (I believe).

Another thought came to mind, maybe she was asked to resign?

No, it's no favor. But it's pretty much the same thing that Andrea Mitchell said on MSNBC as early as Friday afternoon.

I truly believe she quit on a whim, that she had mulled the idea of not running again, and that she sprung the quitting part on everyone, possibly even her family. She was so impulsive, IMO, that she put out an incoherent statement, and only now she's trying to clean that up and turn it into new concepts like "higher calling", etc, that she didn't mention in the press conference.

It's simply embarrassing the reasons that are being given........too much commuting, not enough time with family.......she was allowed to live in her own home instead of where every other AK governor lived. She chose her own every step, time to take responsibility for her own unhappiness.

It's not ridiculous to quit because of family demands, but I predict that won't stop her from traveling the lower 48 and leaving most of the family in Alaska.

IMO

[daniel green]

Did she really say politics had become a ""superficial, wasteful bloodsport?"

Was she referring to her calling the President someone who pals around with terrorists?

Or about McCain making horrible jokes about a then child, Chelsea Clinton? :confused:

[fiver]

Was she referring to her calling the President someone who pals around with terrorists?

Or about McCain making horrible jokes about a then child, Chelsea Clinton? :confused:No and no.

[daniel green]

Empire editorial: Alaska better off without Sarah Palin

http://juneauempire.com/stories/070509/opi_459496145.shtml

"We say good for her, however, because it's been nearly a year since the first-term governor has acted like she actually wanted the job. Still unknown, however, is why Palin is calling it quits, though her press office has given numerous reasons for why she isn't. They say:

• It wasn't because Palin can't take the criticism that comes with being an elected official.

• It wasn't because she is planning to run for higher office.

• It wasn't because of bad press and bloggers."

Excellent editorial. Thx for bringing this, Ortiga.

If Palin is considered a lame duck it's by her own making. She engaged in needless disputes with bloggers and members of the press, waged a talk-show battle with David Letterman over a crude joke (was Letterman's comment really the worst we've heard from late-night comedians?), and touted her office's transparency while doing the opposite in practice. Not only did she hit the self-destruct button, she built the time bomb known as Sarah Palin. We're surprised by the news, but we shouldn't be.

That sums it up.

I did not realize that she resigned the day before Alaska celebrated its 50th anniversary of statehood. :scared:

[daniel green]

Unfortunately for Sarah Palin, people's opinions do in fact matter quite a bit.

Exactly. They sure do. It is EVERYTHING in politics.

[Mimi428]

:thumbsup: I believe she said "something" about a "higher calling". That's frightening!! :scared:

JMO

I finally got to read the entire VF article just a few minutes ago - & this part really struck me.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908?currentPage=4

More than once in my travels in Alaska, people brought up, without prompting, the question of Palin’s extravagant self-regard...

...When Trig was born, Palin wrote an e-mail letter to friends and relatives, describing the belated news of her pregnancy and detailing Trig’s condition;

she wrote the e-mail not in her own name but in God’s, and signed it “Trig’s Creator, Your Heavenly Father.”

You don't have to be Freud or Jung to comprehend there is some serious pathology going on when a person decides to present his/her own thoughts as coming from a deity.

[daniel green]

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/72422

[daniel green]

"I have absolutely no problem with those who are arguing that Palin’s story is one of a citizen politician thrust into the national spotlight who left office to protect her family from merciless attacks. But for those still arguing that she can or should have a future as an elected political leader, let alone president, I’m baffled. And I think that Palin’s defenders do her absolutely no favors by consistently making excuses for her no matter the circumstances."

http://spectator.org/blog/2009/07/06/palin-is-no-reagan

Yikes, that is on the ultra-conservative site. :scared:

[daniel green]

Skepticism about Sarah Palin has soared since she entered the national political stage, with six in 10 Americans now doubting her qualifications for office and fewer than half convinced of her grasp of complex issues...Her basic ratings are weaker still. Just 35 percent say Palin has the experience it takes to serve effectively as president, down a dozen points since early September; 60 percent think not, up 15. And just 46 percent think Palin "understands complex issues," while 49 percent think she doesn't -- a poor assessment on this most basic qualification

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5930646

That was in October.

And there are some ppl who NOW think she is a serious contender for presidential politics? :ohmy:

[ortiga]

Excellent editorial. Thx for bringing this, Ortiga.



That sums it up.

I did not realize that she resigned the day before Alaska celebrated its 50th anniversary of statehood. :scared:

Remember DG, she went to New York to attend the 50th anniversary of Alaska statehood. She was invited to be in the parade in Juneau, Alaska's capital, on Saturday, and she didn't even answer them. I posted that link several times yesterday.

[daniel green]

Remember DG, she went to New York to attend the 50th anniversary of Alaska statehood. She was invited to be in the parade in Juneau, Alaska's capital, on Saturday, and she didn't even answer them.

I'd forgotten that. That puts everything in perspective.

[daniel green]

Even Fox News has started to turn on Sarah Palin. In the midst of a segment about the Alaska Governor's battle against "liberal" attacks, Liz Trotta went off-message. Frankly, "the woman is inarticulate, undereducated," Trotta said, arguing that for once liberal criticism was "well-deserved." "I think all the liberal stylists ... really have a case. She just begs for adjectives like flaky and wacky." When pressed, she added, "We're talking about somebody who, right from the get-go, has been a flashy person who gets into a lot of trouble and really has no credentials for any job."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/fox-news-contributor-rips_n_226370.html

Video at the link

[daniel green]

"To resign after two-and-a-half years in office and somehow to say that she was going to be a lame duck and lame ducks can't get anything done and governors just go on junkets during her lame-duck period is ridiculous," Rendell told MSNBC. "First of all, she's a first-term governor, not a term-limited, second-term governor, and if she hadn't announced she was leaving, she wouldn't have been a lame duck, she would have been in a pretty strong executive position, number one. Number two, this is not the time for governors to abandon their states.... Everyone of us is facing severe financial challenges brought about by the international recession and this is not a time to leave. We pledged to our folks when we asked them to elect to us, we pledged that we were going to serve four years and we serve in the good years, but we also serve in the bad years as well. And for her to leave and turn the state over to a lieutenant governor with less than a month's notice, in the midst of difficult financial times, I think it's just dead wrong."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/rendell-lays-into-palin-c_n_226438.html

[daniel green]

The Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes just can't bring himself to do it. "Forget about Sarah Palin as the Republican presidential candidate in 2012 and probably ever. She may have no interest in seeking the GOP nomination. But if she does, her chances of winning the nomination have been minimized by her decision to resign as governor of Alaska. She's knocked out one of three legs of the presidential stool and a second one is wobbly."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/fred-barnes-palin-has-das_n_226099.html

[Casspian]

No, it's no favor. But it's pretty much the same thing that Andrea Mitchell said on MSNBC as early as Friday afternoon.

I truly believe she quit on a whim, that she had mulled the idea of not running again, and that she sprung the quitting part on everyone, possibly even her family. She was so impulsive, IMO, that she put out an incoherent statement, and only now she's trying to clean that up and turn it into new concepts like "higher calling", etc, that she didn't mention in the press conference.

It's simply embarrassing the reasons that are being given........too much commuting, not enough time with family.......she was allowed to live in her own home instead of where every other AK governor lived. She chose her own every step, time to take responsibility for her own unhappiness.

It's not ridiculous to quit because of family demands, but I predict that won't stop her from traveling the lower 48 and leaving most of the family in Alaska.

IMO

You might be right ... I'm actually starting to think so because I can't sync the nervousness, unpreparedness of it with anything she's said. Others agree with you...

http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=9031

The only other explanations which fit all those things is that she was asked to resign or got indignant about something that was said (like the letter giving her advice to get some knowledge on the issues if she wanted to run in the future), to me. Of course, the later reason as well as many others could have spurred an impulsive, "I'll show them, I'm just quitting!" She really doesn't seem very in control, does she. And, I think that's the one thing she can't stand. Unless of course, somebody really does have something on her.

[Casspian]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/fox-news-contributor-rips_n_226370.html

Video at the link


Ouch :ohmy:

[CindR]

So, why now, after all the public eye time, has she digressed to communicating thru facebook and twitter????


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31766394/ns/politics-more_politics/

She started twittering at the end of April. Honestly, the twitters she makes about what she's doing in regards to her role as governor (what she's doing on a given day) are pretty cool and not a bad idea.

[Adalena935]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/07/06/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5136351.shtml

FBI Says There Is No Palin Investigation

10 hrs ago

Also, Andrea Mitchell was just on with this report from FBI. And that the bloggers are over the top with their rumors.

[CindR]

Not any more!!! And that's not what I'm saying. She has ceased to talk, and now just twitters.....Very Governor like...:thumbdown:

I have to agree with you there, sally. It's not very professional-sounding now.

[MercedesV]

Paul Begala (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/07/04/paul-begala-sarah-palin-bull-goose-loony-gop): Spreading the love. :shrug:

Speaking the truth. Sometimes it isn't pretty.

[Casspian]

So, why now, after all the public eye time, has she digressed to communicating thru facebook and twitter????


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31766394/ns/politics-more_politics/

1. to have the utmost control over the message, putting out what she wants

2. getting sympathy worked up for herself replete with sympathetic postings and digs at others for being so mean and cruel to her and her kids - the sites serve as a gathering place where they all get worked up into a frenzy (both a lovefest with Sarah and hatefest about liberals).

3. counting the numbers so she can feel out just how much support she has, i.e., the number of followers on Twitter and the number of friends on Facebook


or, as the article states.. "Political analyst Larry Sabato says online networking is a perfect vehicle for "a controversial politician to communicate with her public in an unfiltered way.""

[ortiga]

1. to have the utmost control over the message, putting out what she wants

2. getting sympathy worked up for herself replete with sympathetic postings and digs at others for being so mean and cruel to her and her kids - the sites serve as a gathering place where they all get worked up into a frenzy (both a lovefest with Sarah and hatefest about liberals).

3. counting the numbers so she can feel out just how much support she has, i.e., the number of followers on Twitter and the number of friends on Facebook


or, as the article states.. "Political analyst Larry Sabato says online networking is a perfect vehicle for "a controversial politician to communicate with her public in an unfiltered way.""

AND....there's no way of actually knowing who is saying what..........

[LisaM22]

No, it's no favor. But it's pretty much the same thing that Andrea Mitchell said on MSNBC as early as Friday afternoon.

I truly believe she quit on a whim, that she had mulled the idea of not running again, and that she sprung the quitting part on everyone, possibly even her family. She was so impulsive, IMO, that she put out an incoherent statement, and only now she's trying to clean that up and turn it into new concepts like "higher calling", etc, that she didn't mention in the press conference.

It's simply embarrassing the reasons that are being given........too much commuting, not enough time with family.......she was allowed to live in her own home instead of where every other AK governor lived. She chose her own every step, time to take responsibility for her own unhappiness.

It's not ridiculous to quit because of family demands, but I predict that won't stop her from traveling the lower 48 and leaving most of the family in Alaska.

IMO

if she quit on a whim then why would she lie about it on her twitter page, she said she has been planning this for months now

[Adalena935]

There's a woman on Greta who's saying word is the DC Democratic elite did everything to block Palin. paraphrase

That's what it appeared to me the way she's been bashed, trashed and obsessed over by the Democratic party since McCain announced her as his VP running mate.

Verifying my premise they must fear her greatly or they'd pay her no mind. shrug

[Veritas]

There's a woman on Greta who's saying word is the DC Democratic elite did everything to block Palin. paraphrase

That's what it appeared to me the way she's been bashed, trashed and obsessed over by the Democratic party since McCain announced her as his VP running mate.

Verifying my premise they must fear her greatly or they'd pay her no mind. shrug

That is how it appeared to me as well. The media has not been friendly to her.

JMO

[Veritas]

Your point? :shrug: How does some woman on FOX, of all channels, verify your opinion?? The woman is no authority on anything. She just expressed her opinion. Do you really think Fox would have a guest on who was a liberal? :lol:

JMHO

Fox has liberals on their channel. Again, you are making a foolish assertion not based on fact.

JMHO

[Adalena935]

Your point? :shrug: How does some woman on FOX, of all channels, verify your opinion?? The woman is no authority on anything. She just expressed her opinion. Do you really think Fox would have a guest on who was a liberal? :lol:

JMHO

She's a young woman journalist. I didn't catch her name. Taking care of an ill relative & just happened into the room at the end of her being one of Greta's guests via remote feed.

I've thought for a long time the Democrats fear Palin greatly based on their obsession with her. And now it's being reported by Washington, DC journalists.

It doesn't hurt my feelings what you chose to do with your television. I applaud free choice.

[LisaM22]

I don't buy that. Planning it for months? She hasn't done her job since she was asked to be McCain's running mate. Frankly, she's only really "actively" worked as Governor for about 1-1/2 years. Now, we're supposed to believe that she has been thinking about resigning for "months".

Let's see now;

1) She's been in office for 30 months.

2) She stopped actively being the Governor approx. 11 months ago after being chose as McCain's running mate.

Who is she trying to kid with that assertion, and why? :blink:

JMHO

with the quality of her speech, I would say she spent a least a month and a half on it - lol

why even bother giving a speech as to your quiting if it says nothing about why your quiting?

[ortiga]

http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/06/new-ethics-complaint-filed-against-gov-palin-per-diem-for-personal-gain/

New Ethics Complaint Filed Against Gov. Palin - Per Diem for Personal Gain

"“I am charging that the Governor has given herself a raise for personal gain by using the per diem process, which is in direct conflict with Section 39.52.120. (a) of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act,” Henning said. “The State of Alaska provides housing in the state’s capital of Juneau for our Governor, so there should be no extra expense if she desires to stay in her own home. More than a thousand state employees commute from the Mat-Su Valley daily and none of them get to pocket free money.”"

[Veritas]

You just made a foolish assertion, as well. Welcome to the club of Foolish Assertions. :lol: I didn't see a link to anything that supports your assertion, but you did note it's just your opinion.

The point is, there is nothing on FOX that ME, MYSELF AND I, consider fair, unbalanced, or true. Their agenda is clear.

JMHO

What is their agenda since it is so clear to you? My TV set must be filled with static because I missed the agenda memo.

[Veritas]

The whole speech was ridiculous. Who announces they're not going to run for re-election, and then follows that with some information on basketball and fishing, and then drops the ball she's resigning and turning the office over to the Lt. Governor???

Obviously, if one resigns their position, they're not going to run for re-election. It's painfully clear that she, once again, wrote her own speech. :lol:

Why was she so afraid of being asked the "hard questions"??? Her Press Conference was kept a secret until the last minute. They had 7 hand-picked observers. :lol:

The gift that keeps on giving.

JMHO

Why doesn't Obama go to Fox and answer the "hard questions".

Maybe he and Sarah can share the same excuse, eh?

JMO

[MercedesV]

Why doesn't Obama go to Fox and answer the "hard questions".

Maybe he and Sarah can share the same excuse, eh?

JMO

It has a lot to do with the lies Fox spread about Obama being a Muslim/Muslim terrorist. I don't believe Fox did that to Palin.

Obama has answered plenty of hard questions, the same can't be said about Palin. Like Clinton stood up to MSNBC for comments made about Chelsea, Palin about Letterman, Obama stood up to Fox. And now they don't seem to be happy about it.

[Veritas]

WHOOPS!!!! She just couldn't abide by the rules, could she? As I always say, "We Reap What We Sow".

JMHO

Was she found guilty already??:confused:

Let's not jump the gun. It only makes one look foolish to leap with your eyes closed.JMO

How many ethics claims have been made against her only to be tossed out because they held NO merit?

Yes, we do reap what we sow. Good luck. :wink:

[ortiga]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/07/barrett_7.php

"Sarah Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein spent his July 4 in Fairbanks, Alaska, issuing a four-page statement warning news organizations not to investigate allegations printed by the Voice last October.

Talk about waving a red flag in front of a bull."

[ortiga]

http://www.csmonitor.com/commentary/

Palin cartoon from Christian Science Monitor

[LisaM22]

What is their agenda since it is so clear to you? My TV set must be filled with static because I missed the agenda memo.

you must be kidding, lol, I guess when your inside the bubble it must be harder to see the truth :shrug:

[Mimi428]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/07/barrett_7.php

"Sarah Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein spent his July 4 in Fairbanks, Alaska, issuing a four-page statement warning news organizations not to investigate allegations printed by the Voice last October.

Talk about waving a red flag in front of a bull."

No kidding! Does this guy not know a thing about the 1st amendment?

I think the last paragrah sums it all up very neatly -

...journalists here write about these incestuous networks whenever we discover them, just like Alaskan journalists do. And there's nothing that lawyers who threaten lawsuits without uncovering any substantive errors can do about it.

If Palin's lawyer could cough up 4 pages full of fussing & threats, how the heck did he miss the need to show where the substantive errors were in anything that has been written about her?

Gov Palin has remarked about her concern for the legal fees she & her husband are supposedly responsible for. If she is worried about running up high legal bills, she should have gotten an attorney who could properly advise her about the 1st amendment & what it allows.

JMO

[daniel green]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/07/barrett_7.php

"Sarah Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein spent his July 4 in Fairbanks, Alaska, issuing a four-page statement warning news organizations not to investigate allegations printed by the Voice last October.

Talk about waving a red flag in front of a bull."

WHAT a cluster. :scared:

So now everyone is aware of the problem, given that Palin had her lawyer point it out. It was from October, for petes sakes, and had not had much notice by the cable news media or newspapers. Till they had to go and point it out this past weekend. Does this make any sense to anyone????:confused:

[daniel green]

Yeah well, besides that being way off topic, I wish he would. snipped

It IS off topic, and the President did go on Fox.

[daniel green]

Grant the Republicans this much at least: they’re no longer boring. Just when the novelty of the Argentine dalliance of Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina had begun to fade, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska enlivened a ho-hum Fourth of July with her announcement that she would abruptly terminate her first term and instead seek to “effect positive change outside government.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/weekinreview/05tanenhaus.html?_r=1&nl=pol&emc=polb1


BTW, why did Palin said she had explained why she was quitting when she had not? :huh:

[daniel green]

In a recent Pew poll, 44 percent of Americans regarded Palin unfavorably. But slightly more had a favorable impression of her. That number included 46 percent of independents, and 48 percent of Americans without a college education...This ideal has had a tough 10 months. It’s been tarnished by Palin herself, obviously. With her missteps, scandals, dreadful interviews and self-pitying monologues, she’s botched an essential democratic role — the ordinary citizen who takes on the elites, the up-by-your-bootstraps role embodied by politicians from Andrew Jackson down to Harry Truman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/opinion/06ross.html?ref=opinion

Yikes, this from a supporter.

[daniel green]

While not questioning the motives behind Sarah Palin's resignation, Gov. Tim Pawlenty, (R-Minn.), argued on Monday that the Alaska governor's decision to step down abruptly from her post was further evidence that the GOP needs a drastic makeover.The Minnesota Republican even offered a sport analogy to counter Palin's bizarre metaphor that she was merely a political point guard, passing the ball of progress to the state's lieutenant governor in light of a full-court press by the media. "I think Gov. Palin is going to continue to be a strong voice and a leader for the Republican Party," Pawlenty told Fox News. "She is very popular, not only in her home state, but in the party across the country. But it is another question mark for a party that is clearly in a rebuilding year. If we were a sports team, if I was the manager or the coach sitting here, we would say we got to get some new draft picks, we are going to have to make some trades, do some things differently, because we are clearly in a rebuilding process."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/pawlenty-on-palin-another_n_226582.html

Yeah, I think draft picks are the way to go here, for the GOP. Or, even better, trades.

[theal3]

It IS off topic, and the President did go on Fox.

Yes, he did. Bill ORiley interviewed him and ran it in 3 parts or so, and I believe Wallace interviewed him too, during the campaign.

[Details]

By the Monitor's Editorial Board
from the July 6, 2009 edition

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0706/p08s01-comv.htmlA good article. There's the voters, who chose you - and then there's the people who volunteered for your campaign, those who donated money, all to get you that one job, so you could serve their interests. It should indeed be a higher bar than merely disliking the commute.

[theal3]

Shannyn Moore, an Alaska newsperson, has been covering Palin for years: In April: Palin is burning her bridges to nowhere....

http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/sarah-palin-is-burning-her-bridges-to-nowhere/

And recently: July 3

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannyn-moore/sarah-palin-resigns-as-al_b_225515.html

[daniel green]

"Staunch GOP conservative Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) doubts that Sarah Palin will be able to resurrect her political career after calling it quits as governor of Alaska.King says he was saddened by the news that Palin, "a star" of the party, gave up the job because he doesn't see how she can continue "her political career on the path ... it was going." "I don’t know of anyone who has successfully and voluntarily pulled themselves out of political office and been able to leverage that into more political success," King said in an interview with The Hill on Monday."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/gop-rep.-king-doubts-palin-can-come-back-2009-07-06.html

[ShooFly]

:tongueside: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/the-myth-of-how-the-media_b_226136.html

[LisaM22]

lol, she just keeps making it worse on herself, I guess she was threatening to sue someone on the forth of July?

"Huffington Post Blogger Shannyn Moore in Palin's Cross Hairs"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/huffington-post-blogger-s_b_225817.html

[LisaM22]

"Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/palin-hit-with-more-ethic_b_226667.html

[Ladybug]

It's obvious that Gov. Sarah Palin continues to captivate the world and this country..it continues to amaze me.. I thought she'd be forgotten after the election was over but that's not the case..she's an amazing accomplished woman.. awesome ! :wub:

[CindR]

It's obvious that Gov. Sarah Palin continues to captivate the world and this country..it continues to amaze me.. I thought she'd be forgotten after the election was over but that's not the case..she's an amazing accomplished woman.. awesome ! :wub:

She certainly does continue to amaze people. I can't argue with you there. :laugh:

[Ladybug]

I do like the strategy for Gov. Palin to resign now it will give her more opportunities to travel the world and this country..maybe she can repair our reputation and I hope she goes after the current congress publicly for all their misguided, out of control, drunken sailor spending routine. woohoo Go Sarah ! :thumbsup:

[Adalena935]

I do like the strategy for Gov. Palin to resign now it will give her more opportunities to travel the world and this country..maybe she can repair our reputation and I hope she goes after the current congress publicly for all their misguided, out of control, drunken sailor spending routine. woohoo Go Sarah ! :thumbsup:

LOL I like your spirit. Maybe she will just do that. I hope so. If she can gain experience and garner the attention of Americans and help them. Well maybe she deserves more consideration. I'm open for suggestions.

I detest the current administration. Let's hope they don't do too much damage that can't be undone before more reasonable leaders can be elected.

[justaguy]

i think what has intensified the media coverage and speculation regarding her resignation was her press conference. IMO she should have given a very direct 15 minute speech...picked ONE reason why she was leaving, hit it strong, coherently, and covered all areas and ramifications of that reason.

Instead, she gave a number of reasons...which,for me, resulted in confusion and weakened each reason...leaving many to pick and choose among them and speculate on each.

[LisaM22]

i think what has intensified the media coverage and speculation regarding her resignation was her press conference. IMO she should have given a very direct 15 minute speech...picked ONE reason why she was leaving, hit it strong, coherently, and covered all areas and ramifications of that reason.

Instead, she gave a number of reasons...which,for me, resulted in confusion and weakened each reason...leaving many to pick and choose among them and speculate on each.

exactly, sad some of her apologists don't get that

[LisaM22]

I do like the strategy for Gov. Palin to resign now it will give her more opportunities to travel the world and this country..maybe she can repair our reputation <snip> woohoo Go Sarah ! :thumbsup:

I do not think Palin is gonna help republicans repair their reputation any, wishful thinking on your part - jmho

[Hey Paula]

i think what has intensified the media coverage and speculation regarding her resignation was her press conference. IMO she should have given a very direct 15 minute speech...picked ONE reason why she was leaving, hit it strong, coherently, and covered all areas and ramifications of that reason.

Instead, she gave a number of reasons...which,for me, resulted in confusion and weakened each reason...leaving many to pick and choose among them and speculate on each.

Actually, I discerned only one reason and the rest of it as collateral damage so destructive, costly and hampering to her job as governor that she decided to step down for the sake of others: Alaska, her constituents, her family and its solvency, and above all for her to free herself of those constraints to make a more meaningful and effective contribution to our errant Republic to remain as our Founding Fathers so prudently and wisely envisioned it.

From the moment JMC announced Sara Palin as his running mate, and especially following her dynamic initial address at the RNC, (without the benefit of the uninterrupted use of a teleprompter) the MSM/Dems/Liberals descended upon Wasilla hoping to find some dirt to sling at BO's charismatic, counterpart "rock star", whom they viewed as a threat. And although JMC lost the election, they've relentlessly continued to trash her and her family, file ludicrous charges (at a current, personal cost in excess of a half million dollars) that it has resulted in Sara Palin being a costly lame duck governor for Alaska. In view of this, I agree with her that she can better serve her State, her constituents and this Country by assuming a national role in the Republican party as a spokesperson, commentator, and fundraiser ("higher calling"). I also believe she might run for higher office at some point, although perhaps not in 2012.

IMO

[Debb]

Can anyone help me identify who said this yesterday? I could hear it but not see who was talking. It was on one of the political type talk shows, possibly Morning Joe. The question was what was the most suprising thing about Palin. The person responding brought in the issue of John McCain. He said that what John McCain did NOT know about Sarah Palin, he could have found out by asking any of the the Palin children's friends and the friends mothers.

Did anyone catch this? I think he was a senator, but I'm not sure. I need to locate the entire interview.

[MercedesV]

i think what has intensified the media coverage and speculation regarding her resignation was her press conference. IMO she should have given a very direct 15 minute speech...picked ONE reason why she was leaving, hit it strong, coherently, and covered all areas and ramifications of that reason.

Instead, she gave a number of reasons...which,for me, resulted in confusion and weakened each reason...leaving many to pick and choose among them and speculate on each.

I agree with you. I almost wonder if it was deliberate. To keep herself in the limelight, keep the media attention. Keep her name in the forefront. And be able to withdraw herself from center stage let others keep talking about her. And by being anything but clear she can claim what she meant as time goes on. Make it up as she goes along.

And I truly laugh because if Obama, Biden or just about anyone else in public office made the claim they were pursuing a 'higher calling' they'd have been lambasted by the same supporters of Palin who think it's fine for her to say. And again, specifically what is this 'higher calling'? She'll let us know when she figures it out I imagine.

[MaybytheBay]

Actually, I discerned only one reason and the rest of it as collateral damage so destructive, costly and hampering to her job as governor that she decided to step down for the sake of others: Alaska, her constituents, her family and its solvency, and above all for her to free herself of those constraints to make a more meaningful and effective contribution to our errant Republic to remain as our Founding Fathers so prudently and wisely envisioned it.

From the moment JMC announced Sara Palin as his running mate, and especially following her dynamic initial address at the RNC, (without the benefit of the uninterrupted use of a teleprompter) the MSM/Dems/Liberals descended upon Wasilla hoping to find some dirt to sling at BO's charismatic, counterpart "rock star", whom they viewed as a threat. And although JMC lost the election, they've relentlessly continued to trash her and her family, file ludicrous charges (at a current, personal cost in excess of a half million dollars) that it has resulted in Sara Palin being a costly lame duck governor for Alaska. In view of this, I agree with her that she can better serve her State, her constituents and this Country by assuming a national role in the Republican party as a spokesperson, commentator, and fundraiser ("higher calling"). I also believe she might run for higher office at some point, although perhaps not in 2012.

IMO


Well said Paula. It was distinctly how I perceived her stepping down....

[Hey Paula]

Well said Paula. It was distinctly how I perceived her stepping down....

Hi May, and thanks! :smile:

Frankly, I don't understand why some are befuddled by her announcement. Her reason for stepping down seemed clear to me. And what some label as "rambling", I view as frustration.. While delivering that announcement, it must have been painful and upsetting for her to recall the events which led to her decision to step down.

Sarah Palin sees herself as a fighter, not a quitter, and so do I.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/50122147.html?elr=KArks7PYDiaK7DUdcOy_nc:DKUiD3aPc :_Yyc:aU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUs

[LisaM22]

Actually, I discerned only one reason and the rest of it as collateral damage so destructive, costly and hampering to her job as governor that she decided to step down for the sake of others: Alaska, her constituents, her family and its solvency, and above all for her to free herself of those constraints to make a more meaningful and effective contribution to our errant Republic to remain as our Founding Fathers so prudently and wisely envisioned it.

From the moment JMC announced Sara Palin as his running mate, and especially following her dynamic initial address at the RNC, (without the benefit of the uninterrupted use of a teleprompter) the MSM/Dems/Liberals descended upon Wasilla hoping to find some dirt to sling at BO's charismatic, counterpart "rock star", whom they viewed as a threat. And although JMC lost the election, they've relentlessly continued to trash her and her family, file ludicrous charges (at a current, personal cost in excess of a half million dollars) that it has resulted in Sara Palin being a costly lame duck governor for Alaska. In view of this, I agree with her that she can better serve her State, her constituents and this Country by assuming a national role in the Republican party as a spokesperson, commentator, and fundraiser ("higher calling"). I also believe she might run for higher office at some point, although perhaps not in 2012.

IMO

Palin puts herself out there in the news, people comment on it, your just not happy she hasn't given a positive image of herself, you can't just throw yourself into the public eye like that and not expect people to comment on your actions - and whine about it if they criticize you - jmho

even palin agrees with this it sounds like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-tOzXQOsk