Tuesday, June 30, 2009

[desmom]

One year ago today....June 30, 2008

Cindy on vacation all week per her video interview.

Tone & Cameron fly out of Orlando in the morning. Casey used Tone’s car while he was out-of-town.
Page 25 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf

Casey and Amy text messages: Page 52 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages
Casey to Amy 6/30 9:22 a.m.: What time do you work today?

Casey called Amy at 9:45 a.m. and told her to open the door. Casey hung with Amy all day until Amy went to work at 5:00 or 6:00 p.m.
Page 18 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement

Casey and Amy go to Target to buy a gas can
page 19 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement

LE report: Amy and Casey purchase 2 gallon gas can at Target 13:22 – video available.
Page 2 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf

Casey used Cindy’s credit card at JC Penney at 18:09 to make a $73.40 purchase.
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf
Video available – page 2 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf

Casey had cash receipt from Target for a $7.49 purchase at 8:56 p.m.
Page 198 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

Casey spends the night on the couch per Ricardo.

Casey’s cell records for June 30 pages 17 – 21 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

[desmom]

What would Casey have done if Tone had not let her use his car while he was out of town? Did Tone know she was going to be running all over town in his car or did he tell her she could use it to get back and forth to work?

Casey's text message to Amy at 9:22 a.m. tells me that she was once again flying by the seat of her pants. Was she still holding out hope Tone would give her a key to his apartment before he left? Did she ask for a key and he said no? Who would have Casey called if Amy was going to be out of town?

And lastly, what did Casey buy at JC Penney's and Target? There is a video available of Casey at JC Penney's. Why hasn't it been released?

jmo

[desmom]

Casey Anthony: Nancy Grace plans two programs on Cindy
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-nancy-grace-plans-two-programs-on-cindy.html

Here's the program's title: "Nancy Grace Investigates: Raw & Uncensored Cindy Anthony Caught on Tape!"

The civil depo tape? :shrug:

[BJames]

Good morning, and thanks again for your dailies Desmom :smile:

I have been wondering what Casey had spent that money on (the $73.40 purchase), by that time Amy would have been at work already.
She wouldn't have spent money on anything for TonE's place as they were out of town, it will be interesting to find out what she bought..
So as of 13:22 (1:22 pm) Casey had a 2 gallon gas can...and some time on this day the car was towed. I wonder if Casey was waiting for Amy to go to work before she went and put gas in the car...by that time the car was gone?
And some how during all of this going on Casey found time to make 4 pages of texts/calls...I wonder where Casey told Amy that Caylee was? And what excuse did Casey give Amy that she couldn't move into the house already?...and that she needed to sleep on the couch?
By the end of the day Casey had to know that the car had been towed, I wonder what she 'planned' to do then? She had to know the smell was bad...would she know that her parents would be contacted?
We know that Lee was sent out to chase her down on July 3rd and she left the club...maybe she figured they already knew about the car then...and that's why she bolted?
Whatever happens now is leading up to that MySpace post on the 3rd of July from Cindy...by then they (apparently) don't even know about the car yet. I wonder what the heck transpired to make Cindy sound so desperate on that posting? It has to be something more than just not seeing Casey and Caylee for the past 15 days...she sent Lee out to find her.
Lee seems to have an interesting position in the dynamics of this family unit..Cindy sends him to locate Casey...George sends him to be with Cindy and Casey after the car is found.
Chief Casey mess cleaner upper?
He sure went into that mode when retrieving Casey's things from TonE's...I just don't think he knew exactly 'what' he was meant to be cleaning up at that point....more 'seat of the pants' stuff...it runs in the family.

Just my opinion of course..

[Myka]

What would Casey have done if Tone had not let her use his car while he was out of town? Did Tone know she was going to be running all over town in his car or did he tell her she could use it to get back and forth to work?

Casey's text message to Amy at 9:22 a.m. tells me that she was once again flying by the seat of her pants. Was she still holding out hope Tone would give her a key to his apartment before he left? Did she ask for a key and he said no? Who would have Casey called if Amy was going to be out of town?

And lastly, what did Casey buy at JC Penney's and Target? There is a video available of Casey at JC Penney's. Why hasn't it been released?

jmo


Tone must have known she was going to use his Jeep. It's kinda hard to hide all the miles she put on the Jeep.

and IMPO, I think it was a dumb move on Tone's part. What if she got in a fender-bender? KC wasn't on Tone's insurance.....

[Pruddennce]

What would Casey have done if Tone had not let her use his car while he was out of town? Did Tone know she was going to be running all over town in his car or did he tell her she could use it to get back and forth to work?

Casey's text message to Amy at 9:22 a.m. tells me that she was once again flying by the seat of her pants. Was she still holding out hope Tone would give her a key to his apartment before he left? Did she ask for a key and he said no? Who would have Casey called if Amy was going to be out of town?

And lastly, what did Casey buy at JC Penney's and Target? There is a video available of Casey at JC Penney's. Why hasn't it been released?

jmo

hey des, in Will Waters statement she texted him and said she was getting a rental car.

page 9, mention of that and more of an explanation after that from Will. but that appears to be later in time; LE states to him it was the day she was picked up by her mom regarding the text about a rental...they were identifying dates, etc.

interesting that she would mention that and of course, wonders of wonders how she thought she would pull that off...IOW, she had a couple of hundred dollars cash from the Amy theft....she must have been thinking, hmmmm, if I spend that on a car, then what? quite a problem for Casey, who to steal from next.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643417/Waters-William---Statement

Tony's statement: he remembered she bought shoes at Pennys. we havent seen a list of her purchases from there....yet.

IMO

best regards
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[desmom]

BJames, Gary Ridgeway, the tow truck driver, said on page 5 of his interview http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/10%20Gary%20Ridgeway%20Transcript.pdf , he received the call at 8:50 a.m., he arrived at 9:06 a.m. and leaving Amscot with the car at 9:16 a.m.

[BlueHeron]

Good Morning!:seeya:

The thing I find confusing is how the car ran out of gas before it was towed, and whether or not it really was out of gas.

Did george know it was out of gas by attempting to start it? From what I've read, he knows a bit about cars, and would know the gauge wouldn't read accurately until the car was started. If his intention was to take the car home, why wouldn't he try to start it before going home to get gas?

A while back Nancy Grace said that there was a surveillance video from the Amscott of casey circling the store several times before entering the lot and leaving the car. Was casey just running on fumes, and somehow managed to get the car parked before it died, or did she intentionally run the tank all the way down? Maybe she didn't want it stolen, and this was her way of insuring that. She did leave a bag, but there was nothing of value in it or the car at all.

In the beginning I thought the gas was to burn evidence, but now I think she really did want the car back. Did she think the smell would go away? Did she think she could clean it? Did she intend to dump the car somewhere else? It's so difficult to imagine how her brain works.

ETA" Actually I just figured out the george thing. You don't have to turn the ignition all the way, but just enough to engage the battery. Perhaps that is what he did.

[Myka]

ok, so we know KC used Cindy's JCP card. However, when KC made a purchase, did she sign Cindy's name to the rec? And if she did, didn't the cahsier ask for ID?

Is this just like the Target purchases, where the cashiers didn't bother to check her ID properly?

I know the video of Target shows a cashier checking KC's ID and signature on the check.......however, we all know the cashier didn't look to see if the name and address on the check was KC's.

*** unless it was a new check, you know? I just opened up an account for my dog shows and they gave me a check book, but my name and address isn't on any of the checks. I have to wait for those to come in the mail. Maybe the checks that KC used were from a new checking account Amy had just opened up?

[desmom]

hey des, in Will Waters statement she texted him and said she was getting a rental car.

page 9, mention of that and more of an explanation after that from Will. but that appears to be later in time; LE states to him it was the day she was picked up by her mom regarding the text about a rental...they were identifying dates, etc.

interesting that she would mention that and of course, wonders of wonders how she thought she would pull that off...IOW, she had a couple of hundred dollars cash from the Amy theft....she must have been thinking, hmmmm, if I spend that on a car, then what? quite a problem for Casey, who to steal from next.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643417/Waters-William---Statement

Tony's statement: he remembered she bought shoes at Pennys. we havent seen a list of her purchases from there....yet.

IMO

best regards
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Casey cashed an Amy check for $250 at BOA before she picked up Amy at the airport. Was she planning on renting a car with the $250? :shrug:

[desmom]

Good Morning!:seeya:

The thing I find confusing is how the car ran out of gas before it was towed, and whether or not it really was out of gas.

Did george know it was out of gas by attempting to start it? From what I've read, he knows a bit about cars, and would know the gauge wouldn't read accurately until the car was started. If his intention was to take the car home, why wouldn't he try to start it before going home to get gas?

A while back Nancy Grace said that there was a surveillance video from the Amscott of casey circling the store several times before entering the lot and leaving the car. Was casey just running on fumes, and somehow managed to get the car parked before it died, or did she intentionally run the tank all the way down? Maybe she didn't want it stolen, and this was her way of insuring that. She did leave a bag, but there was nothing of value in it or the car at all.

In the beginning I thought the gas was to burn evidence, but now I think she really did want the car back. Did she think the smell would go away? Did she think she could clean it? Did she intend to dump the car somewhere else? It's so difficult to imagine how her brain works.

ETA" Actually I just figured out the george thing. You don't have to turn the ignition all the way, but just enough to engage the battery. Perhaps that is what he did.

This is what Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, told LE on page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

And then, and anyway, I went back to the car with him and the car wouldn’t start. And I looked, he was sitting in the car and I looked in the car and the gas gauge was on empty. I said, “Oh, it’s out of gas.” And he said, “Okay.” He said, “Well I brought gas with me.” Okay. That’s kind of unusual.

IIRC, someone in the A family said the gas gauge was broke. LE checked it and said it was working correctly.

jmo

[Sun]

Casey cashed an Amy check for $250 at BOA before she picked up Amy at the airport. Was she planning on renting a car with the $250? :shrug:

Can you imagine what a Jury will be thinking when they hear that Casey forged/cashed Amy's check for $250 at the BOA just before picking Amy up at the airport?

Was this also the same day that Casey sent through an online payment for her own phone bill, from Amy account?

[cassidy]

Tone must have known she was going to use his Jeep. It's kinda hard to hide all the miles she put on the Jeep.

and IMPO, I think it was a dumb move on Tone's part. What if she got in a fender-bender? KC wasn't on Tone's insurance.....

I'd really love to know everything Casey told Tony. I hope he has a good memory. And I really don't understand why he would let her use his car while he was gone but wouldn't ( at least it appears that way) let her stay in his apartment? I don't think I would just hand my car over to someone I hadn't known very long while I was out of town :shrug:

[desmom]

Can you imagine what a Jury will be thinking when they hear that Casey forged/cashed Amy's check for $250 at the BOA just before picking Amy up at the airport?

Was this also the same day that Casey sent through an online payment for her own phone bill, from Amy account?

Page 8 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/7562873/Casey-Anthony-FRAUD-arrest-affidavit

July 19, 2008: Victim Huizenga called the Orlando Police Department Information Desk to report an additional check that was in the process of clearing her account....The victim stated the check was electronically presented to AT&T in the amount of $574.

On 7/15, Casey made 3 phone calls to an 866 phone number - page 61 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716 After a little investigating, I discovered this phone number appears in a computer generated cell phone message from AT&T regarding service terminated due to lack of payment. You can pay your AT&T phone bill via your cell phone if you have a checking account, credit card or debit card.

jmo

[bchand]

This is what Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, told LE on page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

And then, and anyway, I went back to the car with him and the car wouldn’t start. And I looked, he was sitting in the car and I looked in the car and the gas gauge was on empty. I said, “Oh, it’s out of gas.” And he said, “Okay.” He said, “Well I brought gas with me.” Okay. That’s kind of unusual.

IIRC, someone in the A family said the gas gauge was broke. LE checked it and said it was working correctly.

jmo

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think my gas gauge will work if the car is turned off. How did he look in the window and "see the car was out of gas"?

[BlueHeron]

This is what Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, told LE on page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

And then, and anyway, I went back to the car with him and the car wouldn’t start. And I looked, he was sitting in the car and I looked in the car and the gas gauge was on empty. I said, “Oh, it’s out of gas.” And he said, “Okay.” He said, “Well I brought gas with me.” Okay. That’s kind of unusual.

IIRC, someone in the A family said the gas gauge was broke. LE checked it and said it was working correctly.

jmo

You are so quick with these links it's amazing! Thanks! I guess it's not a stretch to believe george brought gas 'just in case'. He knew casey's history, and also perhaps heard her say the gauge was broken. What was odd or unusual to Mr. Burch was really not for this family dealing with casey.

[BlueHeron]

I'd really love to know everything Casey told Tony. I hope he has a good memory. And I really don't understand why he would let her use his car while he was gone but wouldn't ( at least it appears that way) let her stay in his apartment? I don't think I would just hand my car over to someone I hadn't known very long while I was out of town :shrug:

Maybe he would have let her stay but his roommates would not? Maybe she didn't ask, since she was hiding the fact that she was homeless from him.

[Sun]

I sure wish one of the media would publish Casey's Inmate Visitor's Log, showing who has been meeting with Casey in the jail. I last saw one of these back in January.

[Scampi]

What would Casey have done if Tone had not let her use his car while he was out of town? Did Tone know she was going to be running all over town in his car or did he tell her she could use it to get back and forth to work?

Casey's text message to Amy at 9:22 a.m. tells me that she was once again flying by the seat of her pants. Was she still holding out hope Tone would give her a key to his apartment before he left? Did she ask for a key and he said no? Who would have Casey called if Amy was going to be out of town?

And lastly, what did Casey buy at JC Penney's and Target? There is a video available of Casey at JC Penney's. Why hasn't it been released?

jmo

Thanks for all your hard work on this Des!! Morning everyone. Let's not forget that cindy had a major problem with giving LE her statements and receipts from JC Penney, telling them in an interview she reviewed them and found nothing out of place. Yep, something going on with what the OC bought at JCP on this date, imo.

[Sun]

Thanks for all your hard work on this Des!! Morning everyone. Let's not forget that cindy had a major problem with giving LE her statements and receipts from JC Penney, telling them in an interview she reviewed them and found nothing out of place. Yep, something going on with what the OC bought at JCP on this date, imo.

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.

[djmsmom]

I'd really love to know everything Casey told Tony. I hope he has a good memory. And I really don't understand why he would let her use his car while he was gone but wouldn't ( at least it appears that way) let her stay in his apartment? I don't think I would just hand my car over to someone I hadn't known very long while I was out of town :shrug:

I think TonE only thought she was going to use his car to get gas and go get her car. IIRC her car was still sitting at Amscot when they passed it going to the airport. Maybe she spoke with Amy before TonE left saying she needed a gas can, just so TonE would hear her. Then knowing her car was already towed she still had Amy buy the can. She just gets caught up in her own lies. Also TonE needed a ride to the airport.

[A.M.]

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.


Or a Winnie the Pooh blanket. ONE of the Anthony's had to buy a replacement. Who and When?

And, if the NANNY took Caylee - WHY would they feel the need to replace the blanket...and never explain their need for doing so?

[ish]

This is what Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, told LE on page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

And then, and anyway, I went back to the car with him and the car wouldn’t start. And I looked, he was sitting in the car and I looked in the car and the gas gauge was on empty. I said, “Oh, it’s out of gas.” And he said, “Okay.” He said, “Well I brought gas with me.” Okay. That’s kind of unusual.

IIRC, someone in the A family said the gas gauge was broke. LE checked it and said it was working correctly.

jmo


I think Casey BS'd George about the gas gauge not working. It was her excuse for running out of gas and taking his gas cans to fill it.
He of course fell for it and brought the gas as a "just in case" when he picked the car up.

[Scampi]

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.

Hey Sunnie, we are on the same page!!! :seeya:

[101Spots]

Casey cashed an Amy check for $250 at BOA before she picked up Amy at the airport. Was she planning on renting a car with the $250? :shrug:

You can't rent a car without a credit card. Also, most rentals insist that you be over 24 years old. If she hoped to rent a car, she'd be SOL.

[djmsmom]

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.

I think she just used what was at hand to wrap Caylees body. She more than likely was buying clothes and shoes to go to the bar. And Cindy doesn't want to admit she partied the whole time Caylee was "missing".

[seeing_eye]

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.

My guess is that Cindy probably previously purchased both types of laundry bags at Target. Casey was not prone to purchase such mundane items. Her shopping pattern ran more to lingerie, sunglasses, clothing, and beer. It was also Casey's MO to take items from the Anthony home as needed such as food, gas cans, money, etc.

[ish]

Can you imagine what a Jury will be thinking when they hear that Casey forged/cashed Amy's check for $250 at the BOA just before picking Amy up at the airport?

Was this also the same day that Casey sent through an online payment for her own phone bill, from Amy account?

NOt only did she take money right before she picked her up, she was in Target using the checks the day she dropped her at the airport!! I wonder if Casey was planning on stealing from Amy while she was on vacation or did she come across the checkbook and take advantage?
What was she thinking, she had to know Amy would find out that her account was wiped out within days, if not hours after returning from PR. Did she think Amy who really needed that money would just roll over like Cindy and George and let it go?

[breezie]

I think Casey BS'd George about the gas gauge not working. It was her excuse for running out of gas and taking his gas cans to fill it.
He of course fell for it and brought the gas as a "just in case" when he picked the car up.

Didn't he get gas when he had to go get cash to spring the car from the tow yard? Cindy was all up in their face about that...from what I remember.

[alisa31235]

I think she just used what was at hand to wrap Caylees body. She more than likely was buying clothes and shoes to go to the bar. And Cindy doesn't want to admit she partied the whole time Caylee was "missing".

Good morning....... didn`t Cindy say on LK {i think} it was only ONE night like that makes a diference to me it was one night too many for a mother with a missing child and George said that all the pictures were before Caylee was born... are we still supose to be looking for the real NANNY i haven`t heard anyone memtion that lately IMO

[adair]

Casey cashed an Amy check for $250 at BOA before she picked up Amy at the airport. Was she planning on renting a car with the $250? :shrug:


Good Morning Everyone!!!!


I have never rented a car before...but don't you need to have a credit card to do that? (like mc or visa?)

What I dont understand is why kc did not steal Amy's car and disappear somewhere...........did she really think that she was gonna get away without not having to produce Caylee to Cindy and George?

[Sun]

I think she just used what was at hand to wrap Caylees body. She more than likely was buying clothes and shoes to go to the bar. And Cindy doesn't want to admit she partied the whole time Caylee was "missing".

You are probably correct that is what Casey was charging. I just wonder if LE is able to trace back through Cindy's CC account, and through Target, to see if a purchase was made in the past year or so from June 2008 for a Whitney Laundry Bag? I have no clue as to how long Target keeps specific transaction info., but if a definite match could be made, it would be a WOW for the State.

[desmom]

You can't rent a car without a credit card. Also, most rentals insist that you be over 24 years old. If she hoped to rent a car, she'd be SOL.

Thanks. It has been years since I rented a car and couldn't remember the ins and outs.

Didn't Casey also tell one of her friends in detail about the new car her Dad was getting her?

[desmom]

Thanks for all your hard work on this Des!! Morning everyone. Let's not forget that cindy had a major problem with giving LE her statements and receipts from JC Penney, telling them in an interview she reviewed them and found nothing out of place. Yep, something going on with what the OC bought at JCP on this date, imo.

And Cindy expected LE to take her word for it..... :lol:

[adair]

Maybe he would have let her stay but his roommates would not? Maybe she didn't ask, since she was hiding the fact that she was homeless from him.

Was it Tony A's roommate that did not care for kc???? I dont recall where I have that ..... but it was some guys roommate that did not trust kc. IIRC

[ish]

You are probably correct that is what Casey was charging. I just wonder if LE is able to trace back through Cindy's CC account, and through Target, to see if a purchase was made in the past year or so from June 2008 for a Whitney Laundry Bag? I have no clue as to how long Target keeps specific transaction info., but if a definite match could be made, it would be a WOW for the State.

I've shopped at Target and if you know what credit card you used they can go back and see exactly what items you purchased on that card and when. If they paid cash, no such luck, but somehow I doubt Casey used much cash, or Cindy for that matter, the Anthony's seem like "charge it" kind of people.

[margaritaville]

Can you imagine what a Jury will be thinking when they hear that Casey forged/cashed Amy's check for $250 at the BOA just before picking Amy up at the airport?

Was this also the same day that Casey sent through an online payment for her own phone bill, from Amy account?

okay, we have Casey here spending Amy's money at Target and cashing checks, paying her c-phone bills.
Casey had to know she was on borrowed time with her "new friends"... How much time do you think Casey figured
she had left? Was she planning on giving up Amy and Tone when the **** his the fan?
Casey had to know that TonE would drop her like a hot potato....(who wants to (knowingly) go out with a thief/liar) as soon as
he found out what she was doing. There was no way of hiding it was her when she pays her personal bills and signs her own name to at least one of the checks to
target... How, what was her plan? If she didn't have these friends, and she couldn't go home, where would she go.. And with out a car?

[grammie/va]

Was it Tony A's roommate that did not care for kc???? I dont recall where I have that ..... but it was some guys roommate that did not trust kc. IIRC

I believe it was JP Chatt that didn't like or trust Casey

[margaritaville]

Cindy sure didn't want LE to get a look at her CC statements. No way did Cindy want LE to see just how many items Casey had been "charging" on her account. I wonder if any of Cindy's CCs might have shown a purchase of a Whitney Canvas Round Laundry Bag? Target stores carry that brand.


Did she ever give them to LE?

[seeing_eye]

okay, we have Casey here spending Amy's money at Target and cashing checks, paying her c-phone bills.
Casey had to know she was on borrowed time with her "new friends"... How much time do you think Casey figured
she had left? Was she planning on giving up Amy and Tone when the **** his the fan?
Casey had to know that TonE would drop her like a hot potato....(who wants to (knowingly) go out with a thief/liar) as soon as
he found out what she was doing. There was no way of hiding it was her when she pays her personal bills and signs her own name to at least one of the checks to
target... How, what was her plan? If she didn't have these friends, and she couldn't go home, where would she go.. And with out a car?

I don't think it ever occurred to Casey that Tone would drop her because of her theft from Amy or even lying about what happened to Caylee. She obviously thought Tone was still her boyfriend when she insisted upon calling him from the jail. I think it was quite a shock to her when he refused to take her call.

[djmsmom]

okay, we have Casey here spending Amy's money at Target and cashing checks, paying her c-phone bills.
Casey had to know she was on borrowed time with her "new friends"... How much time do you think Casey figured
she had left? Was she planning on giving up Amy and Tone when the **** his the fan?
Casey had to know that TonE would drop her like a hot potato....(who wants to (knowingly) go out with a thief/liar) as soon as
he found out what she was doing. There was no way of hiding it was her when she pays her personal bills and signs her own name to at least one of the checks to
target... How, what was her plan? If she didn't have these friends, and she couldn't go home, where would she go.. And with out a car?

She would have traveled to calf. That's why she asked Cindy for one more day. Also I think that's what the 250 dollars was for.

[Sun]

I don't think it ever occurred to Casey that Tone would drop her because of her theft from Amy or even lying about what happened to Caylee. She obviously thought Tone was still her boyfriend when she insisted upon calling him from the jail. I think it was quite a shock to her when he refused to take her call.

Yes, quite a shock when he refused to accept her collect call from the jail. chuckles.... and also Chris refused to accept her call from the jail also. Guess that Casey was getting quite the cold shoulder from guys that she thought that she had wrapped around her little finger.

[ish]

Yeah, she only partied ONE night so that was okay, just like Cindy told Richard Grund she only stole from Jesse ONE time. :rolleyes:

[Sun]

She would have traveled to calf. That's why she asked Cindy for one more day. Also I think that's what the 250 dollars was for.

The way that Casey was stealing Money from Amy is just such a mean and rotten thing to do. Criminal. An act that all of the Anthonys allowed Casey to get away with for years.

[ish]

I don't think it ever occurred to Casey that Tone would drop her because of her theft from Amy or even lying about what happened to Caylee. She obviously thought Tone was still her boyfriend when she insisted upon calling him from the jail. I think it was quite a shock to her when he refused to take her call.

maybe she was planning a bit of phone sex from jail, she certainly wasn't interested in talking about her missing daughter.

[djmsmom]

The way that Casey was stealing Money from Amy is just such a mean and rotten thing to do. Criminal. An act that all of the Anthonys allowed Casey to get away with for years.

ITA You only hear about Cindy ridiculing Casey about being a bad mother or a liar. She did nothing to curb her behavor such as taking away the car or making her own up to her stealing.

[msgatorslayer]

okay, we have Casey here spending Amy's money at Target and cashing checks, paying her c-phone bills.
Casey had to know she was on borrowed time with her "new friends"... How much time do you think Casey figured
she had left? Was she planning on giving up Amy and Tone when the **** his the fan?
Casey had to know that TonE would drop her like a hot potato....(who wants to (knowingly) go out with a thief/liar) as soon as
he found out what she was doing. There was no way of hiding it was her when she pays her personal bills and signs her own name to at least one of the checks to
target... How, what was her plan? If she didn't have these friends, and she couldn't go home, where would she go.. And with out a car?

G'morning everyone!

I think I'd be giving Casey to much credit if I said she was at her wits end and wanted to be caught. That's just not in her nature.

She seized the moment. A checkbook was sitting there and she couldn't keep her grubby hands off it. An 'event planner' with a new boyfriend she liked. She couldn't contribute ANYTHING while playing house mouse with him. Other than cooking and cleaning. The checkbood gave her a windfall for the moment. She could buy some things for his house. And thats exactly what she did. Tossed in some new digs for herself as well.

Of course she knew Amy would find out fairly soon. She probably would have given Amy some sort of sob story. Producing a bogus email from 'work' about a payroll problem of sorts. If Amy fell for it, she'd wait till she could steal some money from Cindy to repay her.

I've also entertained the idea that she was setting Amy up for stealing Caylee. But when I presented that to the board here, other posters told me I was probably wrong. Casey just isn't that smart. And doesn't think past the moment. I now believe they're right. Casey isn't capable of coming up with a half baked plan let alone an elaborate one. Heck, she led LE to Universal and an empty apartment. :rolleyes:

[Pam1569]

You are probably correct that is what Casey was charging. I just wonder if LE is able to trace back through Cindy's CC account, and through Target, to see if a purchase was made in the past year or so from June 2008 for a Whitney Laundry Bag? I have no clue as to how long Target keeps specific transaction info., but if a definite match could be made, it would be a WOW for the State.

GM Sun, I used to work for JCP back in the mid 80's and if Target is anything like them they keep all receipts per day for 7 years (now 5 years per IRS). So I imagine that if LE got a copy of Cindy's CC purchases they could have easily gone to the store and gotten the original receipt showing exactly what the creature purchased. jmo

GM desmom just wanted to say thank you for all the daily updates. :smile:

[msgatorslayer]

Morning all.!!

I am not good with links but in this morning's Orlando Sentinel, there is an article saying Roy Kronk wants more reward money for finding Caylee's remains.
Not sure if this was posted here yet.

Thank you again, Desmom, and all the others who keep us updated.

Kat

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-roy-kronk-063009,0,2354756.story

It's for legal fees. Not reward money for finding her.

[margaritaville]

maybe she was planning a bit of phone sex from jail, she certainly wasn't interested in talking about her missing daughter.

uh no..that would be just a "huge waste"

"They just want Caylee back. That's all they're worried about right now is getting Caylee back."

What about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?
KC- makes me sick!!

[Sun]

GM Sun, I used to work for JCP back in the mid 80's and if Target is anything like them they keep all receipts per day for 7 years (now 5 years per IRS). So I imagine that if LE got a copy of Cindy's CC purchases they could have easily gone to the store and gotten the original receipt showing exactly what the creature purchased. jmo

GM desmom just wanted to say thank you for all the daily updates. :smile:

Thanks so much for this info. I know absolutely nothing about how those companies keep their records. And, it probably wouldn't matter just "who" from the Anthony home purchased this item either (Cindy or Casey).

[ish]

G'morning everyone!

I think I'd be giving Casey to much credit if I said she was at her wits end and wanted to be caught. That's just not in her nature.

She seized the moment. A checkbook was sitting there and she couldn't keep her grubby hands off it. An 'event planner' with a new boyfriend she liked. She couldn't contribute ANYTHING while playing house mouse with him. Other than cooking and cleaning. The checkbood gave her a windfall for the moment. She could buy some things for his house. And thats exactly what she did. Tossed in some new digs for herself as well.

Of course she knew Amy would find out fairly soon. She probably would have given Amy some sort of sob story. Producing a bogus email from 'work' about a payroll problem of sorts. If Amy fell for it, she'd wait till she could steal some money from Cindy to repay her.

I've also entertained the idea that she was setting Amy up for stealing Caylee. But when I presented that to the board here, other posters told me I was probably wrong. Casey just isn't that smart. And doesn't think past the moment. I now believe they're right. Casey isn't capable of coming up with a half baked plan let alone an elaborate one. Heck, she led LE to Universal and an empty apartment. :rolleyes:

Do you think she knew that Apt was vacant? What if it were occupied, would she have insisted that ZFG lived there. I still think she had an in somewhere, somehow thru Sawgrass, could she have broken into the rental office and done some research on who had looked at vacancies? Or was it a total coincidence? Coincidence is hard for me to believe, just too much accuracy to be a coincidence. And where is Mark Hawkins
statement?

[desmom]

G'morning everyone!

I think I'd be giving Casey to much credit if I said she was at her wits end and wanted to be caught. That's just not in her nature.

She seized the moment. A checkbook was sitting there and she couldn't keep her grubby hands off it. An 'event planner' with a new boyfriend she liked. She couldn't contribute ANYTHING while playing house mouse with him. Other than cooking and cleaning. The checkbood gave her a windfall for the moment. She could buy some things for his house. And thats exactly what she did. Tossed in some new digs for herself as well.

Of course she knew Amy would find out fairly soon. She probably would have given Amy some sort of sob story. Producing a bogus email from 'work' about a payroll problem of sorts. If Amy fell for it, she'd wait till she could steal some money from Cindy to repay her.

I've also entertained the idea that she was setting Amy up for stealing Caylee. But when I presented that to the board here, other posters told me I was probably wrong. Casey just isn't that smart. And doesn't think past the moment. I now believe they're right. Casey isn't capable of coming up with a half baked plan let alone an elaborate one. Heck, she led LE to Universal and an empty apartment. :rolleyes:

:seeya:

I think you hit the nail on the head with the checkbook thing Msgatorslayer!

Hmm, Casey setting up Amy as the kidnapper. Casey drove Amy to the airport for the PR trip. I remember there was a news report about Caylee being sold to someone in PR and had to go look....

September 24, 2008 http://www.wftv.com/news/17550086/detail.html

Sources who knew the family intimately during the past few months told Eyewitness News that Casey convinced her mother that Caylee was sold to someone in Puerto Rico.

jmo

[Sun]

June 30, 2008 was George's last day at his job (he was either fired or quit). George normal work schedule was the 3-11 shift, Sun through Thursday. Got called in Friday June 30th, his last day. (I wonder if LE got George's work days/hours from the company to verify what George told them?)

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfiles/audio/GeorgeAnthoneyOne.WMA

[Sandy001]

Casey Anthony: Nancy Grace plans two programs on Cindy
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-nancy-grace-plans-two-programs-on-cindy.html

Here's the program's title: "Nancy Grace Investigates: Raw & Uncensored Cindy Anthony Caught on Tape!"

The civil depo tape? :shrug: Let's face it. There's a wealth of material out there. I hope NG puts them so we can see her lie to cover lie to cover lie. Like mother, like daughter.

She can show Cindy, the real (UGLY) side. Watch her attack anyone and everyone. Show her waving her hammer at people and fondling Rob Dick.

Unfortunately, show is advertised at shwoing Cindy UNDER oath so maybe she can show the part under oath and then the lie about it.

[Pam1569]

Thanks so much for this info. I know absolutely nothing about how those companies keep their records. And, it probably wouldn't matter just "who" from the Anthony home purchased this item either (Cindy or Casey).

Hi Sun, I think that if Casey did purchased anything with Cindy's CC she could have signed Cindy's name, but LE would be able to tell by signature difference. Which is just another down fall for her.:thumbup:

[margaritaville]

Let's face it. There's a wealth of material out there. I hope NG puts them so we can see her lie to cover lie to cover lie. Like mother, like daughter.

She can show Cindy, the real (UGLY) side. Watch her attack anyone and everyone. Show her waving her hammer at people and fondling Rob Dick.

Unfortunately, show is advertised at shwoing Cindy UNDER oath so maybe she can show the part under oath and then the lie about it.


I thought Nancy was a supporter of George and Cindy. She always protects Cindy when someone even tried to place a little blame on her (Lenny for instance).
Something must have changed.

[desmom]

Let's face it. There's a wealth of material out there. I hope NG puts them so we can see her lie to cover lie to cover lie. Like mother, like daughter.

She can show Cindy, the real (UGLY) side. Watch her attack anyone and everyone. Show her waving her hammer at people and fondling Rob Dick.

Unfortunately, show is advertised at shwoing Cindy UNDER oath so maybe she can show the part under oath and then the lie about it.

OMG don't forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM (42 seconds on the clock)

[crimeq]

Thanks for all your hard work on this Des!! Morning everyone. Let's not forget that cindy had a major problem with giving LE her statements and receipts from JC Penney, telling them in an interview she reviewed them and found nothing out of place. Yep, something going on with what the OC bought at JCP on this date, imo.

Good morning Scamp! :seeya: I have never understood the big bruhaha over the JCP charges/receipts. LE could get them directly from JCP (and they probably have, by now). This scenario turned into a big deal and I don't really understand why. It did go a long way to show early-on that Cindy was not going to be a cooperative witness, though.

[Sandy001]

Good Morning!:seeya:

The thing I find confusing is how the car ran out of gas before it was towed, and whether or not it really was out of gas.

Did george know it was out of gas by attempting to start it? From what I've read, he knows a bit about cars, and would know the gauge wouldn't read accurately until the car was started. If his intention was to take the car home, why wouldn't he try to start it before going home to get gas?

A while back Nancy Grace said that there was a surveillance video from the Amscott of casey circling the store several times before entering the lot and leaving the car. Was casey just running on fumes, and somehow managed to get the car parked before it died, or did she intentionally run the tank all the way down? Maybe she didn't want it stolen, and this was her way of insuring that. She did leave a bag, but there was nothing of value in it or the car at all.

In the beginning I thought the gas was to burn evidence, but now I think she really did want the car back. Did she think the smell would go away? Did she think she could clean it? Did she intend to dump the car somewhere else? It's so difficult to imagine how her brain works.

ETA" Actually I just figured out the george thing. You don't have to turn the ignition all the way, but just enough to engage the battery. Perhaps that is what he did.

I don't think what was IN the bag would be of importance to a car theft. The fact there was a PURSE (it has always been refrred to as a PURSE, not a bag) in plain view would be enough for a small time thief to break into the car.

ABY break-in to the car could easily put doubt on Casey being the one responsible for the decomp odor. Without any REASONABLE doubt, Casey's goose is cooked.

[ish]

regarding Casey convincing Cindy that Caylee was sold to someone in PR. I think it is more likely Cindy suggested that theory in one of their talks and in typical Casey fashion (cryptic answers, vague comments, nods and body language) Casey let Cindy run with it. I guess she figured that'll keep mom busy for a couple days and get her off my back.

[Sun]

Let's face it. There's a wealth of material out there. I hope NG puts them so we can see her lie to cover lie to cover lie. Like mother, like daughter.

She can show Cindy, the real (UGLY) side. Watch her attack anyone and everyone. Show her waving her hammer at people and fondling Rob Dick.

Unfortunately, show is advertised at shwoing Cindy UNDER oath so maybe she can show the part under oath and then the lie about it.

I'm sure that NG will have most of the stuff that we've already seen. IMO, all the lying that Cindy has done, further strengthens my opinion that Cindy believe that Casey did the unthinkable. Kill Caylee. Cindy has wanted everyone to believe something other than the truth. IMO, the public isn't buying it. NG knows it too. These will probably be some good episodes to watch.

[Sandy001]

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think my gas gauge will work if the car is turned off. How did he look in the window and "see the car was out of gas"?
Mine shows where it was when the car was last driven. So, for example, right now, it shows as empty, bbut if my tank was half full, it would show that. I think it depends on the car.

[anon-o-miss]

OMG don't forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM (42 seconds on the clock)
She's so gracious isn't she? Get off you @$$es and find my granddaughter. shortly after words she makes a comment like "God knows what I'm talking about". Lee's head whips up pretty quickly when she said that. :scared:

[desmom]

She's so gracious isn't she? Get off you @$$es and find my granddaughter. shortly after words she makes a comment like "God knows what I'm talking about". Lee's head whips up pretty quickly when she said that. :scared:

The first time I heard it, I was like :eek: that comment will send a few volunteer searchers home. jmo

[darcie]

Casey Anthony: Nancy Grace plans two programs on Cindy
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-nancy-grace-plans-two-programs-on-cindy.html

Here's the program's title: "Nancy Grace Investigates: Raw & Uncensored Cindy Anthony Caught on Tape!"

The civil depo tape? :shrug:

My vote is the tape of the late night tryst demolishing the memorial.

MOO

[Sandy001]

The way that Casey was stealing Money from Amy is just such a mean and rotten thing to do. Criminal. An act that all of the Anthonys allowed Casey to get away with for years.
I would bet you that thsi is the FIRST time she's ever been held accountable for ANYTHING she has done.

A girl my youngest wwas datnig got her DL suspendied for a month because of tickets. She never missed a beat during that month, driving everywhere as if nothing was wrong. I so wanted to turn her in. She did the crime so she should have accepted the consequences. I see the same trait in Casey. I hope jail opens her eyes to the real world.

[anon-o-miss]

regarding Casey convincing Cindy that Caylee was sold to someone in PR. I think it is more likely Cindy suggested that theory in one of their talks and in typical Casey fashion (cryptic answers, vague comments, nods and body language) Casey let Cindy run with it. I guess she figured that'll keep mom busy for a couple days and get her off my back.

ITA!!! Casey said she hadn't seen Caylee for 31 days which would make the date closer to the 15th. However Cindy says the 9th so everyone followed suit. Just like in one of George's LE interviews (maybe with the FBI?) he says Cindy says "it was the pizza right George" and he kind of sheepishly answered, "yeah it was the pizza". Cindy thinks she has evrything just so figured out when in reality, they are just all parroting back her asinine theories. Then she takes that as confirmation. :rolleyes:

[penguinlady]

Hey everyone...

I am having a bit of a brain freeze...what was the name of the house that they all partied at?? Lake Vaj (or something like that??)

TIA!

K

[Sandy001]

She's so gracious isn't she? Get off you @$$es and find my granddaughter. shortly after words she makes a comment like "God knows what I'm talking about". Lee's head whips up pretty quickly when she said that. :scared:

Graciousnes
Kindness
Gratitude
Honesty
Accountability
Tact
Classs

All traits sorely lacking by the Anthony family. moo

[penguinlady]

I would bet you that thsi is the FIRST time she's ever been held accountable for ANYTHING she has done.

A girl my youngest wwas datnig got her DL suspendied for a month because of tickets. She never missed a beat during that month, driving everywhere as if nothing was wrong. I so wanted to turn her in. She did the crime so she should have accepted the consequences. I see the same trait in Casey. I hope jail opens her eyes to the real world.

That is how I learned to drive stick shift. A friend of mine was driving on a suspended license...got pulled over and arrested! I had to drive her car and had never driven a stick before :scared:

K!

[anon-o-miss]

Graciousnes
Kindness
Gratitude
Honesty
Accountability
Tact
Classs

All traits sorely lacking by the Anthony family. moo
:glare:I couldn't agree more.

[Sun]

You are so right. The entire Anthony family lacks class. And, brains. And, honesty.

[toadii]

This is what Simon Burch, employee of Johnson Towing, told LE on page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

And then, and anyway, I went back to the car with him and the car wouldn’t start. And I looked, he was sitting in the car and I looked in the car and the gas gauge was on empty. I said, “Oh, it’s out of gas.” And he said, “Okay.” He said, “Well I brought gas with me.” Okay. That’s kind of unusual.

IIRC, someone in the A family said the gas gauge was broke. LE checked it and said it was working correctly.

jmo

Casey had a long history of needing gas. George might have thought that his irresponsible, spoiled and lazy daughter might have just left the car because it ran out of gas. By this time she had already broken the lock on the shed, stolen gas and had the confrontation with George in the driveway.

He was accustomed to her behavior, having indulged it for her lifetime. I may the only one who did not find it odd that he showed up at the tow yard with gas.

In an interview Cindy went on about the faulty gas gauge. There was never any follow up on who the friend was and when this friend fixed it in the docs
.
I believe it was just Casey BS to G&C to explain her habitual need for gas. Cindy continued the BS in a media interview to support the myth that it was not HER daughter's fault she had repeatedly run out of gas, attempting to perpetuate the illusion of the perfect 10 family.

If my cable is up to speed today I will try to locate the interview where , shortly after word was out regarding the LE report of missing gas cans. Cindy says there were no missing gas cans. Its just another example of Cindy's knee jerk reaction to protect the family imagine IMO.

[AnnieBell]

Going over some stuff and came across this. Apparently a myspace account for a zenida was set up on 6/16/08. There's also suspicion that this account may have been logged onto while casey was with bozo in his office. Has anyone heard of this before?

www.docstoc.com/docs/5395519/Info-on-a-Zenaida-My-Space-Created-by-Casey-Anthony

[Tia]

Casey Anthony: Nancy Grace plans two programs on Cindy
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-nancy-grace-plans-two-programs-on-cindy.html

Here's the program's title: "Nancy Grace Investigates: Raw & Uncensored Cindy Anthony Caught on Tape!"

The civil depo tape? :shrug:

First, thanks so much for the daily updates. I am really enjoying the "One year ago today" posts.

As far as Nancy planning two programs on Cindy, I think they will be VERY interesting! Especially if she does a compilation Cindy's lies.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, I think casey is crazy to think tony would be her boyfriend after he found out she was stealing from everyone. She always thought she could cover what ever she done with a lie and people would believe her she has something wrong in her head. She is so sold on her self and thinks she is smarter than anyone. Maybe one day she will see that is not true.jmho

[Tia]

Good Morning Everyone!!!!


I have never rented a car before...but don't you need to have a credit card to do that? (like mc or visa?)

What I dont understand is why kc did not steal Amy's car and disappear somewhere...........did she really think that she was gonna get away without not having to produce Caylee to Cindy and George?

I often thought that she was trying to stage an abduction by leaving the car at the Amscot. She wasn't too worried about getting caught because she was going to be long gone, but something went wrong and her plan didn't work out like she expected.

[bchand]

Hey everyone...

I am having a bit of a brain freeze...what was the name of the house that they all partied at?? Lake Vaj (or something like that??)

TIA!

K

That's correct penguinlady - Lake Vaj

(Who's who from WS)

Exit13 – Websleuths poster who did not want to be IDd by his real name. He is the owner of the “Lake Vaj” house. Friend of Dante Salati and Mallory Parker (Lee’s girlfriend) and roommate of Sean Daly. Exit13 spent four years in 75th Ranger Regiment. Says Casey stopped hanging out with them when she started dating Tony (about 6-8 weeks before Caylee was reported missing). He saw Casey at party in May (Anything But Clothes) and watched UFC fight on June 7, 2008.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71620

[grammie/va]

Thanks Desmom for the daily updates. To me these updates are as good as a doc dump because I have forgotten some small details and some other info I just need to be reminded about.

So thanks very much

[penguinlady]

Thanks bchand!

K!

[Neffy]

Casey Anthony: Nancy Grace plans two programs on Cindy
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-nancy-grace-plans-two-programs-on-cindy.html

Here's the program's title: "Nancy Grace Investigates: Raw & Uncensored Cindy Anthony Caught on Tape!"

The civil depo tape? :shrug:

:w00t: Bwahahahahahaha! :w00t:

[msgatorslayer]

Good morning Scamp! :seeya: I have never understood the big bruhaha over the JCP charges/receipts. LE could get them directly from JCP (and they probably have, by now). This scenario turned into a big deal and I don't really understand why. It did go a long way to show early-on that Cindy was not going to be a cooperative witness, though.

1. There is something incriminating on the receipts. A winnie the poo replacement blankie, laundry bag, etc.

2. Something purcahsed which shows Casey's state of mind while her Daughter was missing. Lots of clothing purchases for her nights out.

3. Cindy being Cindy. Wanting to get her way. Not wanting to acknowledge that if her Daughter had a REAL job, she wouldn't be using her cards to charge.

[ConchGirl]

OMG don't forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM (42 seconds on the clock)

Thanks for sharing that. It really shows Cindy's true colors to be using profanity at a prayer vigil. She wants everyone to get off the butts to look for her granddaughter while she and the odious daughter do nothing but lie. jmo

[msgatorslayer]

She's so gracious isn't she? Get off you @$$es and find my granddaughter. shortly after words she makes a comment like "God knows what I'm talking about". Lee's head whips up pretty quickly when she said that. :scared:

She has some big ole petunias to say that!!:rolleyes:

Instead of yelling at US, march your hammer waving azz up to you Daughter and ask HER where your Granddaughter is.

[Neffy]

OMG don't forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM (42 seconds on the clock)

She's out there all right. In the woods around the corner double bagged from where Cindy is standing.

[JHP]

1. There is something incriminating on the receipts. A winnie the poo replacement blankie, laundry bag, etc.

2. Something purcahsed which shows Casey's state of mind while her Daughter was missing. Lots of clothing purchases for her nights out.

3. Cindy being Cindy. Wanting to get her way. Not wanting to acknowledge that if her Daughter had a REAL job, she wouldn't be using her cards to charge.

It almost had to be the Winnie replacement blanket. Which shows early on Cindy knew her daughter had done something, something that needed to be covered up.

IMO Cindy needs to be in jail also. Probably all the A's are guilty of some sort of coverup.

[Pam1569]

hey des, in Will Waters statement she texted him and said she was getting a rental car.

page 9, mention of that and more of an explanation after that from Will. but that appears to be later in time; LE states to him it was the day she was picked up by her mom regarding the text about a rental...they were identifying dates, etc.

interesting that she would mention that and of course, wonders of wonders how she thought she would pull that off...IOW, she had a couple of hundred dollars cash from the Amy theft....she must have been thinking, hmmmm, if I spend that on a car, then what? quite a problem for Casey, who to steal from next.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643417/Waters-William---Statement

Tony's statement: he remembered she bought shoes at Pennys. we havent seen a list of her purchases from there....yet.

IMO

best regards
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Hi Pru, It just hit me. When Cindy searched through OC's wallet she took her JC Penney and another credit card. If this is so then OC could have rented a car with this credit card and the $200 in cash that Cindy pocketed would have been for the tattoo that she (OC) was getting on the 18th of July (Saturday) and then she would have high tailed it out to California to be with Mark Hawkins. Does this makes sense or have I just gone off the deep end?:confused:

[Scampi]

You are so right. The entire Anthony family lacks class. And, brains. And, honesty.

Every last one of 'em could benefit from a trip to Oz, imo.

[ConchGirl]

Hi Pru, It just hit me. When Cindy searched through OC's wallet she took her JC Penney and another credit card. If this is so then OC could have rented a car with this credit card and the $200 in cash that Cindy pocketed would have been for the tattoo that she (OC) was getting on the 18th of July (Saturday) and then she would have high tailed it out to California to be with Mark Hawkins. Does this makes sense or have I just gone off the deep end?:confused:

You have not gone off the deep end. :biggrin: It is very difficult for those of us with normal minds to even begin to understand how an odious Anthony thinks.

One year ago today, Casey had no daughter and no car and didn't have a care in the world. :confused:

[Lavinia]

Every last one of 'em could benefit from a trip to Oz, imo.

Cindy's too busy dropping houses on people to make the trip.

(Hey everyone! :seeya:)

Do we not have ANY news this week? :confused:

[Pam1569]

You have not gone off the deep end. :biggrin: It is very difficult for those of us with normal minds to even begin to understand how an odious Anthony thinks.

One year ago today, Casey had no daughter and no car and didn't have a care in the world. :confused:

TY Conch, Always worried about trying to figure her out that I am just going to end up in a padded room. lol

[happygert]

Thanks for sharing that. It really shows Cindy's true colors to be using profanity at a prayer vigil. She wants everyone to get off the butts to look for her granddaughter while she and the odious daughter do nothing but lie. jmo

Exactly!.. She cant get off her own a$$ to look but she's telling everyone else to get off their a$$es and look.. when people did look for Caylee she caused a scene to get the searchers to stop.. nothing c does is a surprise.. her true colors.. cant wait for the trial..i'm guessing she may get a `few more bracelets and a new outfit if she dont watch her mouth in the court room..
One more thing to add it wasn't the public's responsibilty to look for her granddaughter it was the familys.. and if they weren't searching how could they expect everyone else to do so? The A's was not searching because they knew where casey threw her away like trash.. They KNEW Caylee was DEAD and casey murdered her...

[anon-o-miss]

Hi Pru, It just hit me. When Cindy searched through OC's wallet she took her JC Penney and another credit card. If this is so then OC could have rented a car with this credit card and the $200 in cash that Cindy pocketed would have been for the tattoo that she (OC) was getting on the 18th of July (Saturday) and then she would have high tailed it out to California to be with Mark Hawkins. Does this makes sense or have I just gone off the deep end?:confused:

Maybe that's what changed her plans. Perhaps she had planned on renting a car to drive to California, found out that the name on the credit card had to match the name on the drivers license. After a car accident I had to rent a car while mine was being repaired, I was sick so I asked hubby to pick it up for me but they wouldn't let him because
I had used my card to reserve it over the phone, so he had to rent it and add me as a secondary driver.

[Scampi]

Cindy's too busy dropping houses on people to make the trip.

(Hey everyone! :seeya:)

Do we not have ANY news this week? :confused:

I have always thought cindy's nastiness stemmed from someone dropping a house on her sister.

Nothing new and with the recent Hollywood death marathon, seems this case is off the front burner for now. Even the civil litagation has been delayed until SEPTEMBER!!!!

:seeya:

[happygert]

Every last one of 'em could benefit from a trip to Oz, imo.

I've think they all should take a trip to the big house .. rent a space there for awhile...they can have matching rooms, bracelets, outfits, and matching toilets..heck forget the rent I'm sure the taxpayers would gladly pay for that trip

[anon-o-miss]

Exactly!.. She cant get off her own a$$ to look but she's telling everyone else to get off their a$$es and look.. when people did look for Caylee she caused a scene to get the searchers to stop.. nothing c does is a surprise.. her true colors.. cant wait for the trial..i'm guessing she may get a `few more bracelets and a new outfit if she dont watch her mouth in the court room..
One more thing to add it wasn't the public's responsibilty to look for her granddaughter it was the familys.. who was not searching because they knew where casey threw her away like trash.. They KNEW Caylee was DEAD and casey murdered her...
ITA!!!
Let us not forget Cindy saying she would knock on everydoor till Caylee was found, she wouldn't stop looking. :thumbdown: She didn't knock on one door, join one search, and then got mad at the people that actually were looking for Caylee because they didn't do it on her terms. Nope:sleep: she was too busy scrapbooking all her daughters lies into her stupid binder.

[bballgrl]

I have always thought cindy's nastiness stemmed from someone dropping a house on her sister.

Nothing new and with the recent Hollywood death marathon, seems this case is off the front burner for now. Even the civil litagation has been delayed until SEPTEMBER!!!!

:seeya:


I read a funny caption earlier. It said: "We have always heard that celebrity deaths come in threes. Leave to Billy Mays to throw in one more at no additional cost!"

It was funny but sad. Ya know?

[martha]

Maybe that's what changed her plans. Perhaps she had planned on renting a car to drive to California, found out that the name on the credit card had to match the name on the drivers license. After a car accident I had to rent a car while mine was being repaired, I was sick so I asked hubby to pick it up for me but they wouldn't let him because
I had used my card to reserve it over the phone, so he had to rent it and add me as a secondary driver.I T A with you I think she was going to california and to tell c and g that caylee was with her. She would just keep lying to them as she would stay in California. It could have been years before c and g knew that caylee was not alive.I really think this is what casey had in her mind. jmho

[Anakerie]

She has some big ole petunias to say that!!:rolleyes:

Instead of yelling at US, march your hammer waving azz up to you Daughter and ask HER where your Granddaughter is.

When that video first hit the news, I recorded it and put it on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM) so that I could put it on my blog... I remember sitting here yelling at her on my TV... The woman had a lot of nerve making a demand like that when she never, ever did any searching herself. Back in the early days of her appearances on the media she told someone that she was going to knock on every door in search of her granddaughter. Uhm.. I'm sure she didn't knock on a single door... Anywhere.

[Scampi]

I read a funny caption earlier. It said: "We have always heard that celebrity deaths come in threes. Leave to Billy Mays to throw in one more at no additional cost!"

It was funny but sad. Ya know?

I know. This June will go down in history, it all began with David Carradine......

[Tia]

It almost had to be the Winnie replacement blanket. Which shows early on Cindy knew her daughter had done something, something that needed to be covered up.

IMO Cindy needs to be in jail also. Probably all the A's are guilty of some sort of coverup.

I agree!!!

I think the only thing keeping her out of jail now is her big mouth. The more it runs, the more info LE gets.

[msgatorslayer]

Maybe that's what changed her plans. Perhaps she had planned on renting a car to drive to California, found out that the name on the credit card had to match the name on the drivers license. After a car accident I had to rent a car while mine was being repaired, I was sick so I asked hubby to pick it up for me but they wouldn't let him because
I had used my card to reserve it over the phone, so he had to rent it and add me as a secondary driver.

Yup. There was no way Casey could have used Cindy's CC for a rental car.

Cindy, as the payee, would have to add Casey as the 'driver'.

Casey though, wouldn't know this until she tried it.

[Lavinia]

I have always thought cindy's nastiness stemmed from someone dropping a house on her sister.

Nothing new and with the recent Hollywood death marathon, seems this case is off the front burner for now. Even the civil litagation has been delayed until SEPTEMBER!!!!

:seeya:

Ratz. (I know all the recent deaths had me running for cover! Seems like it's dangerous to be 50 right now. I'm going to do something about that shortly. :wink:)

A long, hot summer for the OC. :beer:

[Sandy001]

First, thanks so much for the daily updates. I am really enjoying the "One year ago today" posts.

As far as Nancy planning two programs on Cindy, I think they will be VERY interesting! Especially if she does a compilation Cindy's lies.
I would like NG to do a split screen of her opposite statements.

[happygert]

ITA!!!
Let us not forget Cindy saying she would knock on everydoor till Caylee was found, she wouldn't stop looking. :thumbdown: She didn't knock on one door, join one search, and then got mad at the people that actually were looking for Caylee because they didn't do it on her terms. Nope:sleep: she was too busy scrapbooking all her daughters lies into her stupid binder.

Yes then begging for donations and counting the dough to see how much money they were making off the public to pay their bills, so they didnt have to work.. I guess they supported Caylee for 2 years now its pay back.. Now Caylee's blood money will support them the rest of their lives.. Still can't figure out why theres not a law against this.. They should not be allowed to exploit Caylee like this..

[msgatorslayer]

I would like NG to do a split screen of her opposite statements.

:thumbsup: Oh yeah. I also love to see the state do the same thing at trial. After Cindy answers a question, play a big screen tv behind her which shows an earlier answer she's made about the same question.

[happygert]

I would like NG to do a split screen of her opposite statements.

heck she wouldn't have enough split screens... too many lies..

[desmom]

Orange leaders split on legal costs, strategy in Casey Anthony case
Leaders approved an additional $2,500 to pay for Roy Kronk's legal fees in the Casey Anthony case.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-roy-kronk-063009,0,2354756.story

...commissioners raised vocal concerns about the escalating costs and legal strategy in the case that has attracted national media scrutiny.

"This case has no limit," said Commissioner Mildred Fernandez. "It's a taxpayer issue."

[Neffy]

Ratz. (I know all the recent deaths had me running for cover! Seems like it's dangerous to be 50 right now. I'm going to do something about that shortly. :wink:)

A long, hot summer for the OC. :beer:

ME TOO! 49 to 51 is my plan
:seeya:

[Sandy001]

ITA!!!
Let us not forget Cindy saying she would knock on everydoor till Caylee was found, she wouldn't stop looking. :thumbdown: She didn't knock on one door, join one search, and then got mad at the people that actually were looking for Caylee because they didn't do it on her terms. Nope:sleep: she was too busy scrapbooking all her daughters lies into her stupid binder.
And listing all those 15,000 ZFGs that exist in Florida (I could only find 200 and NONE of them werw ZFGs

[AnniePie]

Was it Tony A's roommate that did not care for kc???? I dont recall where I have that ..... but it was some guys roommate that did not trust kc. IIRC

I hadn't heard that before, Adair, but that was an intuitive fellow. Too bad the rest of her "friends" didn't see through her moopoo.

[Sandy001]

:thumbsup: Oh yeah. I also love to see the state do the same thing at trial. After Cindy answers a question, play a big screen tv behind her which shows an earlier answer she's made about the same question.

The prosecution in Peterson did that effectively - showing a picture of Laci attending a Christmas party alone and one of Scott attending a party at the same time with Amber. It's a very effective tool.

I suggest the prosecution in this case show one of Casey in her blue dress beside a picture of the decomposing body-in-a-bag of Caylee.

[Tia]

The prosecution in Peterson did that effectively - showing a picture of Laci attending a Christmas party alone and one of Scott attending a party at the same time with Amber. It's a very effective tool.

I suggest the prosecution in this case show one of Casey in her blue dress beside a picture of the decomposing body-in-a-bag of Caylee.

Ouch. That would certainly be effective! Then play the tape of Cindy telling US to get off of our azzes and search for Caylee.

[num1barb]

Orange leaders split on legal costs, strategy in Casey Anthony case
Leaders approved an additional $2,500 to pay for Roy Kronk's legal fees in the Casey Anthony case.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-roy-kronk-063009,0,2354756.story

...commissioners raised vocal concerns about the escalating costs and legal strategy in the case that has attracted national media scrutiny.

"This case has no limit," said Commissioner Mildred Fernandez. "It's a taxpayer issue."


I feel bad for the taxpayers. This legal strategy is going to cost them a fortune.

Thanks for the link Desmom, and the daily updates :)

I read every day at work and you make it so very easy to keep up! You're great!

I must say my best friend lives in south/central Illinois (near springfield) and I know you must have a lot of time on your hands to do these updates and provide links so easily because there is NOTHING to do in the middle of an Illinois cornfield!! LOL

[happygert]

When that video first hit the news, I recorded it and put it on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0jFmPHfFMM) so that I could put it on my blog... I remember sitting here yelling at her on my TV... The woman had a lot of nerve making a demand like that when she never, ever did any searching herself. Back in the early days of her appearances on the media she told someone that she was going to knock on every door in search of her granddaughter. Uhm.. I'm sure she didn't knock on a single door... Anywhere.

Maybe she did knock on one door.. she may have knocked on Caylee's play house when she was searching her back yard.. heck she may even knocked on casey's bedroom door......:rolleyes:

[Lavinia]

ME TOO! 49 to 51 is my plan
:seeya:

:lol: Getting old is starting to look attractive, huh?

Did "really" say the Milstead's car was at the A's this last weekend?

[num1barb]

Maybe she did knock on one door.. she may have knocked on Caylee's play house when she was searching her back yard.. heck she may even knocked on casey's bedroom door......:rolleyes:

Perhaps she knocked on the trunk?

[num1barb]

:lol: Getting old is starting to look attractive, huh?

Did "really" say the Milstead's car was at the A's this last weekend?

I thought I read a motorcycle. I could be mistaken

[Lapis]

I have always thought cindy's nastiness stemmed from someone dropping a house on her sister.

Nothing new and with the recent Hollywood death marathon, seems this case is off the front burner for now. Even the civil litagation has been delayed until SEPTEMBER!!!!

:seeya:

Wow, you guys are really impatient. When I first started practicing the courts closed down the entire month of August for vacations. You would have really gone off the deep end then. With all the budget cuts this may come back into vogue. In NJ they are shutting down a few days a month this summer to save money. JMO

[happygert]

I feel bad for the taxpayers. This legal strategy is going to cost them a fortune.

Thanks for the link Desmom, and the daily updates :)

I read every day at work and you make it so very easy to keep up! You're great!

I must say my best friend lives in south/central Illinois (near springfield) and I know you must have a lot of time on your hands to do these updates and provide links so easily because there is NOTHING to do in the middle of an Illinois cornfield!! LOL


I've said all along the taxpayers will be footing this bill and paying all the attorneys and experts.. they will wait just like in the sp trial then after it gets started they will tell the court they cant afford them and the taxpayers will have to pay for them..

yes theres not much to do in the middle of a cornfield .. heck not much to do in IL even if you don't live in the middle of a cornfield...

[Dells]

Good morning....... didn`t Cindy say on LK {i think} it was only ONE night like that makes a diference to me it was one night too many for a mother with a missing child and George said that all the pictures were before Caylee was born... are we still supose to be looking for the real NANNY i haven`t heard anyone memtion that lately IMO

Yes, Cindy did say on LKL that it was only one night of partying, which was a lie btw.:sneaky: I agree w/you though, if it would have been one night, it would have been one night too many. Cindy seems to think that Casey should get a free pass the first time she does something wrong. When Casey stole from her Grandma, according to Cindy it was only that one time and it was only for $50 or something along those lines. I guess that it why she is looking the other way now, Casey only murdered Caylee that one time.....:sneaky:

[msgatorslayer]

The prosecution in Peterson did that effectively - showing a picture of Laci attending a Christmas party alone and one of Scott attending a party at the same time with Amber. It's a very effective tool.

I suggest the prosecution in this case show one of Casey in her blue dress beside a picture of the decomposing body-in-a-bag of Caylee.

Resting their case with a Lunsford trial moment.

Taking a big framed picture of Caylee, sticking some duct tape around it, double bagging it in trash bags, then the laundry bag, and tossing it across the courtroom.

[AnniePie]

:lol: Getting old is starting to look attractive, huh?

Did "really" say the Milstead's car was at the A's this last weekend?

The Milstead's harleys and Mallybu's car. Party time!

[Scampi]

Wow, you guys are really impatient. When I first started practicing the courts closed down the entire month of August for vacations. You would have really gone off the deep end then. With all the budget cuts this may come back into vogue. In NJ they are shutting down a few days a month this summer to save money. JMO

In the prayerful words of St. Augustine:

"Dear Lord, please give me patience and be quick about it."

[Scampi]

The Milstead's harleys and Mallybu's car. Party time!

If you recall cindy and crew always celebrated the Fourth of July in a huge way. I cannot imagine the atmosphere at Casa anthony this year.

[mickeymb35]

If you recall cindy and crew always celebrated the Fourth of July in a huge way. I cannot imagine the atmosphere at Casa anthony this year.

I'm sure no one will be wearing the flag.

[Lavinia]

If you recall cindy and crew always celebrated the Fourth of July in a huge way. I cannot imagine the atmosphere at Casa anthony this year.

Chili party! :beer:

[5boxersmom]

Heeeelllllooooo:biggrin:

Anything new happening today?

[happygert]

Yes, Cindy did say on LKL that it was only one night of partying, which was a lie btw.:sneaky: I agree w/you though, if it would have been one night, it would have been one night too many. Cindy seems to think that Casey should get a free pass the first time she does something wrong. When Casey stole from her Grandma, according to Cindy it was only that one time and it was only for $50 or something along those lines. I guess that it why she is looking the other way now, Casey only murdered Caylee that one time.....:sneaky:

5 years ago my daughter who was 18 was missing for 8 days with a physcopath and his scitzo mom. wbtw beat her the night before and police released him.. I did not get any help from LE because she was 18..and even tho this physcopath had been arrested for domestic battery not once but several times (against many different girls)would not help find her.. I could barely function for 8 very long days let alone thinking about partying.. No mom who's child is "missing" has anything on there mind but finding your child and finding her safe.. No casey's action were not that of a mom who had a child missing.. casey's actions were that of a mom who knew exactly where their child was..
My daughter was found alive by the grace of god.. and pepper spray.. he tried to kill her with and axe and butcher knife....I can tell you I still remember everything about the day she went missing like it was yesterday..

Partying ,feeling other girls up, bedhoping,shopping, cooking for your b/f and getting tattooed is not what a mother does when her child is "MISSING".. casey did all things because she knew exactly where Caylee was... Caylee was not missing she was dead and threw away like trash..

[Sun]

I've said all along the taxpayers will be footing this bill and paying all the attorneys and experts.. they will wait just like in the sp trial then after it gets started they will tell the court they cant afford them and the taxpayers will have to pay for them..

yes theres not much to do in the middle of a cornfield .. heck not much to do in IL even if you don't live in the middle of a cornfield...

If you read the Clerk of Courts records for the other Murder trial that Baez worked on, he filed more than once to get "his" fees paid. Very interesting reading.

Nilton Diaz --- other murder case of Baez's.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=78899567%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20

[happygert]

If you read the Clerk of Courts records for the other Murder trial that Baez worked on, he filed more than once to get "his" fees paid. Very interesting reading.

Nilton Diaz --- other murder case of Baez's.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=78899567%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20

thank you Sun.. wonder if casey is the only client jb has now?

[Tia]

5 years ago my daughter who was 18 was missing for 8 days with a physcopath and his scitzo mom. wbtw beat her the night before and police released him.. I did not get any help from LE because she was 18..and even tho this physcopath had been arrested for domestic battery not once but several times (against many different girls)would not help find her.. I could barely function for 8 very long days let alone thinking about partying.. No mom who's child is "missing" has anything on there mind but finding your child and finding her safe.. No casey's action were not that of a mom who had a child missing.. casey's actions were that of a mom who knew exactly where their child was..
My daughter was found alive by the grace of god.. and pepper spray.. he tried to kill her with and axe and butcher knife....I can tell you I still remember everything about the day she went missing like it was yesterday..

Partying ,feeling other girls up, bedhoping,shopping, cooking for your b/f and getting tattooed is not what a mother does when her child is "MISSING".. casey did all things because she knew exactly where Caylee was... Caylee was not missing she was dead and threw away like trash..

OMG, how terrible for you and your daughter. I am glad you had a happy ending and she was found alive and safe.

You are right, mom's don't do those things when their child is "missing". And sorry Jose, I'm not buying your "ugly coping" theory!

[AnnieBell]

IIRC cry baby and psycho went through a separation when Caylee was first born but I just read some of Ms. Shirley's emails from 6/6/08 where she's talking to her sister and comments that G&C are having problems,Cindy needs to get tough with George & KC, let them know the free ride is over, who knows maybe the alimony would be less than what it is costing her to have him live there. Apparently KC wasn't the only one stealing from psycho.

Ms. Shirley gave these emails to LE with a note explaining that lightening had fried her computer tower and some t.v's but thought the emails might be helpful. LE asked G&C for phone records, the slacks that psycho washed and the EZ records. Both said oh absolutley, we have nothing to hide and yada,yada,yada. Guess what? none of it was ever give to LE, in fact LE had to include the requested items in search warrants to retrieve them.

Ms. Shirley, I salute you.

[Neffy]

:lol: Getting old is starting to look attractive, huh?

Did "really" say the Milstead's car was at the A's this last weekend?

I think I did read something like that. I've been a late late night board reader and I think I read something about that.

I can't wait to see NG's expose' on Cindy LOL! First rounds on me for the show!

[happygert]

If you read the Clerk of Courts records for the other Murder trial that Baez worked on, he filed more than once to get "his" fees paid. Very interesting reading.

Nilton Diaz --- other murder case of Baez's.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=78899567%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20

Looks like he also tried to get the judge dismissed from the case.. Umm wonder if he tries to pi$$ off every judge he goes in front of..If I'm reading this right this guy who JB defended was a child abuser who murdered the child..

[margaritaville]

thank you Sun.. wonder if casey is the only client jb has now?


He probably could get another case now that he has Ms. Lyons there to lead the way on this one...moo

[num1barb]

5 years ago my daughter who was 18 was missing for 8 days with a physcopath and his scitzo mom. wbtw beat her the night before and police released him.. I did not get any help from LE because she was 18..and even tho this physcopath had been arrested for domestic battery not once but several times (against many different girls)would not help find her.. I could barely function for 8 very long days let alone thinking about partying.. No mom who's child is "missing" has anything on there mind but finding your child and finding her safe.. No casey's action were not that of a mom who had a child missing.. casey's actions were that of a mom who knew exactly where their child was..
My daughter was found alive by the grace of god.. and pepper spray.. he tried to kill her with and axe and butcher knife....I can tell you I still remember everything about the day she went missing like it was yesterday..

Partying ,feeling other girls up, bedhoping,shopping, cooking for your b/f and getting tattooed is not what a mother does when her child is "MISSING".. casey did all things because she knew exactly where Caylee was... Caylee was not missing she was dead and threw away like trash..

Oh gert, what a horrible experience for your family! I'm glad she was found!!

And yes, ITA with you. casey partied her azz off and was the happiest she'd ever been. She was only worried about her mother finding out.

I've been wondering since this story broke what in casey's life changed in the year or so before she murdered Caylee. Was there one thing that pushed her over the edge? Maybe a combination of a couple things?

She had Caylee when she was still a teenager. Beautiful fun little baby girl, fun to dress up and tote around for folks to "oooh" and "ahhh" over. That usually wears off.....and single friends don't always want to hear every little detail of someone else's kids life, they don't have kids themselves and can't relate. KWIM?

Then there is casey's age....she turned 21 in March of 2007 IIRC. Before she was 21, all partying had to be done at someone's house or somewhere similar...easy to lay the baby down to sleep and party on, but once she turned 21 and started going to clubs it wasn't as easy. Couldn't bring Caylee along as easily anymore.

Then of course there's the new bf who didn't want girls.



MOO

[AMS]

:lol: Getting old is starting to look attractive, huh?

Did "really" say the Milstead's car was at the A's this last weekend?

Hey lavinia - it was a motorcycle. Dennis in leather. Picture it!

imo

[Sun]

I think I did read something like that. I've been a late late night board reader and I think I read something about that.

I can't wait to see NG's expose' on Cindy LOL! First rounds on me for the show!

Given NG's sympathy for Cindy in the past, I just wonder how far she will take things in putting together this show. I am hoping that she will not hold back. The Anthonys are liars and I really hope that this show gives some really good examples.

[Neffy]

Looks like he also tried to get the judge dismissed from the case.. Umm wonder if he tries to pi$$ off every judge he goes in front of..If I'm reading this right this guy who JB defended was a child abuser who murdered the child..

Your reading that right. His client was awarded free living accomodations by the State :)

[happygert]

OMG, how terrible for you and your daughter. I am glad you had a happy ending and she was found alive and safe.

You are right, mom's don't do those things when their child is "missing". And sorry Jose, I'm not buying your "ugly coping" theory!

It was the most terrifiing experience my daughter and I ever went through..
Nope want to know what my ugly coping was? It was lashing out at everyone who would not help me.. now let me tell you that got real ugly.. when you go to LE and DA's office and anyone who you thought could help and they slammed doors in your face or say sorry Miss but she's 18 and theres nothing we can do to help you. I'd tell them my daughter would never leave her car , cell phone , job and just take off..Now that got ugly!..

and what even got worse after the fact the Cop that let him go time and time again was the cop who got over 400 years for rape..

[5boxersmom]

Nope want to know what my ugly coping was? It was lashing out at everyone who would not help me.. now let me tell you that got real ugly.. when you go to LE and DA's office and anyone who you thought could help and they slammed doors in your face or say sorry Miss but she's 18 and theres nothing we can do to help you. I'd tell them my daughter would never leave her car , cell phone , job and just take off..Now that got ugly!..

and what even got worse after the fact the Cop that let him go time and time again was the cop who got over 400 years for rape..

Is he locked up now gert?

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Sun
If you read the Clerk of Courts records for the other Murder trial that Baez worked on, he filed more than once to get "his" fees paid. Very interesting reading.

Nilton Diaz --- other murder case of Baez's.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=78899567%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 Looks like he also tried to get the judge dismissed from the case.. Umm wonder if he tries to pi$$ off every judge he goes in front of..If I'm reading this right this guy who JB defended was a child abuser who murdered the child..

Did you notice that Kasen also worked on that case with Baez?

[Neffy]

Given NG's sympathy for Cindy in the past, I just wonder how far she will take things in putting together this show. I am hoping that she will not hold back. The Anthonys are liars and I really hope that this show gives some really good examples.

I don't expect to see anything new but knowing Cindy is watching it too (which she'll deny) is PRICELESS! Should prove humiliating. It's Cindy's response and balistic lying nature when the real show will begin.

[happygert]

Oh gert, what a horrible experience for your family! I'm glad she was found!!

And yes, ITA with you. casey partied her azz off and was the happiest she'd ever been. She was only worried about her mother finding out.

I've been wondering since this story broke what in casey's life changed in the year or so before she murdered Caylee. Was there one thing that pushed her over the edge? Maybe a combination of a couple things?

She had Caylee when she was still a teenager. Beautiful fun little baby girl, fun to dress up and tote around for folks to "oooh" and "ahhh" over. That usually wears off.....and single friends don't always want to hear every little detail of someone else's kids life, they don't have kids themselves and can't relate. KWIM?

Then there is casey's age....she turned 21 in March of 2007 IIRC. Before she was 21, all partying had to be done at someone's house or somewhere similar...easy to lay the baby down to sleep and party on, but once she turned 21 and started going to clubs it wasn't as easy. Couldn't bring Caylee along as easily anymore.

Then of course there's the new bf who didn't want girls.



MOO

yes I Know what you mean.. However I dont think anything changed for casey.. she didnt want Caylee from day one when she found out she was pregnant.. She knew c would never let her give her away.. so she thought about what she could do with Caylee that she would never have to listen to c about giving her away.. how could she get rid of Caylee so that c couldn't and wouldn't be able to have her.. casey wanted no part of Caylee and as long as Caylee was alive she'd have to compete with Caylee for attention.. I think casey thought about murdering her for a long long time.. I don't thik this was a spur of the moment thing.. casey did not work to even provide for Caylee.. imo Caylee cramped her style.. and she couldn't have anyone loving Caylee more then they loved her..

[Neffy]

Hey lavinia - it was a motorcycle. Dennis in leather. Picture it!

imo

But put the chili down before you get that picture in your head!

[happygert]

Did you notice that Kasen also worked on that case with Baez?

yes I did...Looks like they've filed a lot of same motions that they have already in casey's case.. This is a preview of what to come in this case..

[Neffy]

Yes, Cindy did say on LKL that it was only one night of partying, which was a lie btw.:sneaky: I agree w/you though, if it would have been one night, it would have been one night too many. Cindy seems to think that Casey should get a free pass the first time she does something wrong. When Casey stole from her Grandma, according to Cindy it was only that one time and it was only for $50 or something along those lines. I guess that it why she is looking the other way now, Casey only murdered Caylee that one time.....:sneaky:

AH the one line of LK that spoke volumes is when Cindy was running interferance for Casey that Cindy also partied at that age. LK response: Not when your child was missing.........:sneaky: SMACK DOWN!

[happygert]

Is he locked up now gert?

Yes from what I understand he was sentenced 9/2/08 for last time.. he was also sentenced on 8/21/08 8/21 was for child abuse and manslaughter.. dont know what the sentencing was for on 9/02/08

[Tia]

Given NG's sympathy for Cindy in the past, I just wonder how far she will take things in putting together this show. I am hoping that she will not hold back. The Anthonys are liars and I really hope that this show gives some really good examples.

I think Nancy only held back because she wanted to get Cindy on the show and rip into her there. Watching Nancy drill Cindy would have been GREAT ratings!

Now Cindy won't go anywhere without her lawyer, and she isn't the loose cannon she used to be........Nancy doesn't want her now. She has enough tape to put together TWO shows!!

[Sun]

yes I did...Looks like they've filed a lot of same motions that they have already in casey's case.. This is a preview of what to come in this case..

It appeared that Baez didn't want that defendant in the courtroom either.

[AnniePie]

Hey lavinia - it was a motorcycle. Dennis in leather. Picture it!

imo

Yep, a regular studmuffin, that one. barf

[martha]

I just know that jb is going to keep putting this trial off thinking that everyone will forget about it and move on. I know I will never forget Caylee and not because she is any better than any other child there is a lot of them that I think about. The reason is the 31 days. Even susan smith did not do that. Even tho I hope she stayes in jail the rest of her life for killing those 2 beautiful boys. Then after the 31 days and all the a;s family knows that was CAYLEE in the trunk of the car they all still lie. I guess in my heart I would never stop loving my daughter but she would have to stand up and take what ever was due her if she had done something like this to my gc. My heart would have been riped out of my chest and the pain no one could stand that kind of pain she would still have to face up. I would love her and pray for her but I would not lie for her. I really guess I would have a little hate for her not sure on that because I have never hated anyone. Hate is a strong word. I have always prayed for a heart that loves everyone and as far as I know I do have that love in my heart. I think c g and lee knew what kind of girl casey was and I don;t think any of them should have let her take caylee out on her own. I would have gone to the courts system and keep her from taking her out on her own. I know my daughter in and out. I know what she can do and what she can;t do.She never fools me no matter what she ssyes. I know when she is not telling me the truth.I know a lot of you will not believe that but it is true. When she was 16 we had our up and downs. now she is 49 and I still know her inside and out. We got thru the teen years with a lot of up and downs but now we or best friends. She is so funny no one can say a thing about her mother or daddy she will go off on you in a second.ha, She knows me very well and what I stand for. The maddest I ever got at her was for telling me a story. and she got her behind whiped for it.Now I know people don;t believe in whiping their kids now days but the Bible tell us to rule over them, If you can;t make them mind by taking things away from them then spank them. Let them know they or acountable to someone for everything they do.They will always be under someone and need to know that. Even if they or rich they or still resposiable to the people that made them rich.sorry for ranting. JMHO

[happygert]

motion was even filed to keep grand jury testimony out in that case..

[martha]

I think Nancy only held back because she wanted to get Cindy on the show and rip into her there. Watching Nancy drill Cindy would have been GREAT ratings!

Now Cindy won't go anywhere without her lawyer, and she isn't the loose cannon she used to be........Nancy doesn't want her now. She has enough tape to put together TWO shows!!ITA with you and boy is cindy and casey going to be mad at ng. They don;t like ng anyway. NG has been keeping this story alive and they don;t like that.I am worried about ng she is so upset all the time and cuts her guest of so bad. I watch her all the time because that is the place I can get news on this case. This board and all you good posters keep me up to date on thins. Which I am so thankful for.Due to my health I can;t read everything but I love you all. I love coming here to read everyday.JMHO

[happygert]

I just know that jb is going to keep putting this trial off thinking that everyone will forget about it and move on. I know I will never forget Caylee and not because she is any better than any other child there is a lot of them that I think about. The reason is the 31 days. Even susan smith did not do that. Even tho I hope she stayes in jail the rest of her life for killing those 2 beautiful boys. Then after the 31 days and all the a;s family knows that was CAYLEE in the trunk of the car they all still lie. I guess in my heart I would never stop loving my daughter but she would have to stand up and take what ever was due her if she had done something like this to my gc. My heart would have been riped out of my chest and the pain no one could stand that kind of pain she would still have to face up. I would love her and pray for her but I would not lie for her. I really guess I would have a little hate for her not sure on that because I have never hated anyone. Hate is a strong word. I have always prayed for a heart that loves everyone and as far as I know I do have that love in my heart. I think c g and lee knew what kind of girl casey was and I don;t think any of them should have let her take caylee out on her own. I would have gone to the courts system and keep her from taking her out on her own. I know my daughter in and out. I know what she can do and what she can;t do.She never fools me no matter what she ssyes. I know when she is not telling me the truth.I know a lot of you will not believe that but it is true. When she was 16 we had our up and downs. now she is 49 and I still know her inside and out. We got thru the teen years with a lot of up and downs but now we or best friends. She is so funny no one can say a thing about her mother or daddy she will go off on you in a second.ha, She knows me very well and what I stand for. The maddest I ever got at her was for telling me a story. and she got her behind whiped for it.Now I know people don;t believe in whiping their kids now days but the Bible tell us to rule over them, If you can;t make them mind by taking things away from them then spank them. Let them know they or acountable to someone for everything they do.They will always be under someone and need to know that. Even if they or rich they or still resposiable to the people that made them rich.sorry for ranting. JMHO

someone my guess it was jb put off sentencing in one case for over 2 years it kept being continued..and last one i'm looking at was over 5 months.. guess that judge was tired of playing games with JB..my guess is he wasn't going to let it go one for 2 years ..btw that one was the one jb wanted removed from the case..IIRC Jb in the past always made plea deals.. with the other cases..

[happygert]

I just know that jb is going to keep putting this trial off thinking that everyone will forget about it and move on. I know I will never forget Caylee and not because she is any better than any other child there is a lot of them that I think about. The reason is the 31 days. Even susan smith did not do that. Even tho I hope she stayes in jail the rest of her life for killing those 2 beautiful boys. Then after the 31 days and all the a;s family knows that was CAYLEE in the trunk of the car they all still lie. I guess in my heart I would never stop loving my daughter but she would have to stand up and take what ever was due her if she had done something like this to my gc. My heart would have been riped out of my chest and the pain no one could stand that kind of pain she would still have to face up. I would love her and pray for her but I would not lie for her. I really guess I would have a little hate for her not sure on that because I have never hated anyone. Hate is a strong word. I have always prayed for a heart that loves everyone and as far as I know I do have that love in my heart. I think c g and lee knew what kind of girl casey was and I don;t think any of them should have let her take caylee out on her own. I would have gone to the courts system and keep her from taking her out on her own. I know my daughter in and out. I know what she can do and what she can;t do.She never fools me no matter what she ssyes. I know when she is not telling me the truth.I know a lot of you will not believe that but it is true. When she was 16 we had our up and downs. now she is 49 and I still know her inside and out. We got thru the teen years with a lot of up and downs but now we or best friends. She is so funny no one can say a thing about her mother or daddy she will go off on you in a second.ha, She knows me very well and what I stand for. The maddest I ever got at her was for telling me a story. and she got her behind whiped for it.Now I know people don;t believe in whiping their kids now days but the Bible tell us to rule over them, If you can;t make them mind by taking things away from them then spank them. Let them know they or acountable to someone for everything they do.They will always be under someone and need to know that. Even if they or rich they or still resposiable to the people that made them rich.sorry for ranting. JMHO

Martha, My kids cant lie with a crap I know when either one of them tries.. they didnt get by with anything either..my daughters 23 and son is 27.. daughter and I are really close .. I know her inside out forward and backwards.. Son a little more reserved but I still know if he's trying to lie.. I can also tellwhen somethings bothering him..

[happygert]

It appeared that Baez didn't want that defendant in the courtroom either.

Yep... IMO this was a preview of how JB works now we know exactly what were in store for in casey's trial.. delay delay delay, deny, deny deny, lie, lie, lie, and If that dont work file frivolous motion after motion..

[martha]

Martha, My kids cant lie with a crap I know when either one of them tries.. they didnt get by with anything either..my daughters 23 and son is 27.. daughter and I are really close .. I know her inside out forward and backwards.. Son a little more reserved but I still know if he's trying to lie.. I can also tellwhen somethings bothering him..
I am the same way. I only have a girl and a boy and they or so different. My son I never had a min prob.with him but my daughter and I had our prob.in the teen years.ha, I am sure in my heart that c and g both knew how casey was and the fits she could throw. Casey hated the fact that Caylee had taken her place with mom and dad. We as gp do a lot for the grandchildren that we did not do for the kids because we can do it now and we could not when they were young not because we love the gk more just that we or in better shape now as far as money wise. My children know we did all we could for them when they were growing up. I don;t think casey understood that. Caylee was bought everything in the world she wanted but what she really needed is someone to love and prot.her. I will never understand cindy letting her take her of with her and not knowing where they were staying or where they were during the day.makes no sense.jmho

[kageykaren]

Yep, a regular studmuffin, that one. barf

:w00t::scared: I'v got to wash that man right out of my mind!

[happygert]

I am the same way. I only have a girl and a boy and they or so different. My son I never had a min prob.with him but my daughter and I had our prob.in the teen years.ha, I am sure in my heart that c and g both knew how casey was and the fits she could throw. Casey hated the fact that Caylee had taken her place with mom and dad. We as gp do a lot for the grandchildren that we did not do for the kids because we can do it now and we could not when they were young not because we love the gk more just that we or in better shape now as far as money wise. My children know we did all we could for them when they were growing up. I don;t think casey understood that. Caylee was bought everything in the world she wanted but what she really needed is someone to love and prot.her. I will never understand cindy letting her take her of with her and not knowing where they were staying or where they were during the day.makes no sense.jmho

ITA .. IMO c was just as jealous as casey as casey was of Caylee.. IMO c was glad when they both were gone now she was the center of attention.. both the c's are narcissistic.. c only made casey keep her because of the control issue.. If c & g really wanted to protect caylee they would have taken custody of her.. If they knew she was an unfit mother why didnt they do something? I also believe Caylee was abused by casey and g&c knew it.. You dont go from loving mom to a murdering mom over night.. just because she didnt have any old breaks does NOT mean she was NOT abused.. Look at the videos of Caylee when seh as in bath tub.. all smiles then when she gets close to camera all of a sudden she backs away and starts crying.. Look at video of her in hairchair she tried so hard to get who ever was taping her to play and interact with her and nothing finally she just gives up..IMO nothing was done cause c didnt want the 24/7 responsibilty.. Toys dont buy love.. Your actions show a child they are loved and protected ..

Im with you on the money my kids had everything they needed but not a lot of extras.. but they knew they were loved very much.. and imo grandparents spoil their grand children more then they did their kids.. they have more money and time..

[sammy62]

I don't expect to see anything new but knowing Cindy is watching it too (which she'll deny) is PRICELESS! Should prove humiliating. It's Cindy's response and balistic lying nature when the real show will begin.

Do we know when this show is supposed to air?

[Neffy]

Hey anything about a change of venue in Ohio I just got summoned for jury duty :w00t:

[Neffy]

Do we know when this show is supposed to air?

I thought I'd read Friday. :)

[Tia]

The upside to this "lull" in the case is that I can finally catch up! There is so much documentation in this case that its really easy to get behind. (I was waaaaaay behind!)

[happygert]

Is he locked up now gert?

sorry , thought you were asking about the other guy JB defended... NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine...

[ruth66]

The upside to this "lull" in the case is that I can finally catch up! There is so much documentation in this case that its really easy to get behind. (I was waaaaaay behind!)


Hello fellow posters! I am glad for the "lull" in this case, that means that interest is dying down and GA & CA's chance of making more money on poor CAYLEE is diminishing as I write. For that I am grateful! The next chapter should be that the murderer of CAYLEE be made to pay for her crime.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE! :thumbsup:

[5boxersmom]

sorry , thought you were asking about the other guy JB defended... NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine...


Wow he sure has. Better to be safe then sorry. Pits are okay if they are raised right.

So sad for the girl who married him. Scary.

jmo

[martha]

I am still behind and will never catch up on all that has gone on but the only thing that eats at me all the time is 31 days and not a word to anyone about Caylee missing. I would not be sup.that Caylee was abused or not treated well by the family. I know she had everything but that does not matter if you don;t make them know how very much you love them.I was 49 when I started to having gc and I keep them all the time. Yes a lot of the time it wore me out but I would not let my children leave the gc with anyone elce. I know how I was abused when I was young and you can;t trust anyone not even a family member. I worked but I would have them from fri night after I got of work until sun.night. Then sometimes in the week time. It was such a joy to have them with me. I think c and g should have taken Caylee away from casey.They knew what kind of person she was.jmho

[happygert]

Wow he sure has. Better to be safe then sorry. Pits are okay if they are raised right.

So sad for the girl who married him. Scary.

jmo

Very scary.. One of the worse thing about this is she had confidence full of self esteem and I never thought anyone would be able to do this to her.. Never took any crap from anyone.. walked with head held high and bounce in her step.. knew exactly what she wanted and what she was going to do .. she wanted to be either a lawyer or a child psychologist he took all that... They say it's usually girls who lack self confidence and self esteem that usually falls for this type.. NOT TRUE.. but when he was done she lost every bit of it..

[~Dramatica~]

I think Nancy only held back because she wanted to get Cindy on the show and rip into her there. Watching Nancy drill Cindy would have been GREAT ratings!

Now Cindy won't go anywhere without her lawyer, and she isn't the loose cannon she used to be........Nancy doesn't want her now. She has enough tape to put together TWO shows!!

There is enough material on Cindy to dedicate an entire week. jmo

[CelticDawn]

sorry , thought you were asking about the other guy JB defended... NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine...

I am normally a law-abiding person who values "human' life....but I know I would be seriously looking for a way to get rid of that guy.

[happygert]

I am still behind and will never catch up on all that has gone on but the only thing that eats at me all the time is 31 days and not a word to anyone about Caylee missing. I would not be sup.that Caylee was abused or not treated well by the family. I know she had everything but that does not matter if you don;t make them know how very much you love them.I was 49 when I started to having gc and I keep them all the time. Yes a lot of the time it wore me out but I would not let my children leave the gc with anyone elce. I know how I was abused when I was young and you can;t trust anyone not even a family member. I worked but I would have them from fri night after I got of work until sun.night. Then sometimes in the week time. It was such a joy to have them with me. I think c and g should have taken Caylee away from casey.They knew what kind of person she was.jmho

ITA.. I dont think c & g wanted to be bothered.. I also like you believe Caylee was abused.. check out those videos of the bath tub and one in the hairchair.. I whole heartly think she was abused and I also believe c and g knew it too..We'vee seen cindy's temper, georges temper and casey's temper.. and I'll bet Caylee seen them as well.. maybe the toys were bought after one of their tempers flared..

[martha]

sorry , thought you were asking about the other guy JB defended... NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine...I know it breaks your heat to see her live in fear like she is doing. I will pray for her for God to give her some peace.My love and prayers go out to her.may God bless her.this man needs to be punished.jmho

[Sun]

Rut Roe.... NG has put on the brakes, and will not be airing the episodes covering Cindy Anthony as scheduled.

HLN has decided to cover the latest developments in the Michael Jackson saga on Friday and Monday.

[Lavinia]

Hey lavinia - it was a motorcycle. Dennis in leather. Picture it!

imo

barf Thanks for the visual, A! :tonguewag:

[martha]

ITA.. I dont think c & g wanted to be bothered.. I also like you believe Caylee was abused.. check out those videos of the bath tub and one in the hairchair.. I whole heartly think she was abused and I also believe c and g knew it too..We'vee seen cindy's temper, georges temper and casey's temper.. and I'll bet Caylee seen them as well.. maybe the toys were bought after one of their tempers flared..
I think you or right none of the a;s can control their temper. I have seen it with all of them. Maybe that is why God took Caylee away from them. I do think the toys and other stuff was to make up for something. I know we all buy more for our gk than our kids got but not because we love them more. Times we hard when my children were growing up but now with the house paid for and oweing nothing but our first of the month bill it is easyer to buy things.jmho

[happygert]

I am normally a law-abiding person who values "human' life....but I know I would be seriously looking for a way to get rid of that guy.

so am I but this guy is bad... Afraid if hubby ever gets his hands on him..

[num1barb]

Rut Roe.... NG has put on the brakes, and will not be airing the episodes covering Cindy Anthony as scheduled.

HLN has decided to cover the latest developments in the Michael Jackson saga on Friday and Monday.

Darn. This is the 2nd time the cindy show has been bumped.

I was looking forward to watching something that WASN"T about michael jackson. No offense, anyone, but there's been nothing on for the past several days on every news channel than him. It's a little much!

[martha]

Rut Roe.... NG has put on the brakes, and will not be airing the episodes covering Cindy Anthony as scheduled.

HLN has decided to cover the latest developments in the Michael Jackson saga on Friday and Monday.Thanks honey for telling us. I guess that is all the news we will get for a while is about mj. I just hate that you can;t believe anything you or hearing about him one will say he was in good health and then another will say he was in awful health. I really hate to see them bring up all the bad stuff after he is dead. May he rest in peace now. jmho

[Neffy]

Rut Roe.... NG has put on the brakes, and will not be airing the episodes covering Cindy Anthony as scheduled.

HLN has decided to cover the latest developments in the Michael Jackson saga on Friday and Monday.

Argh I just read that Michael Jackson's body will be at his Neverland for a public viewing on Friday!!

Cindy's got a reprieve........for now :sneaky:

[martha]

Darn. This is the 2nd time the cindy show has been bumped.

I was looking forward to watching something that WASN"T about michael jackson. No offense, anyone, but there's been nothing on for the past several days on every news channel than him. It's a little much!ITA with you enough is enough.I wanted to find out about that little girl Jada but nothing but mj. I was so hoping to see the show about cindy. I can;t get any news on this case on the tv.maybe one day they will cover something except mj.jmho

[happygert]

I think you or right none of the a;s can control their temper. I have seen it with all of them. Maybe that is why God took Caylee away from them. I do think the toys and other stuff was to make up for something. I know we all buy more for our gk than our kids got but not because we love them more. Times we hard when my children were growing up but now with the house paid for and oweing nothing but our first of the month bill it is easyer to buy things.jmho

ITA.. Its a struggle when you first get married and have kids.. then when we have grandkids we have a little extra to spoil them with..If I thought for one second that my son or dil was mistreating my grandson or unfit I'd take him in a second even if it meant selling every thing I had.. cindy didnt want Caylee any more then casey did.. This statement from cindy: "casey loves that child more then I love casey"
when i heard that i was thinking WTH?? casey murdered Caylee so what are you saying? casey did to Caylee what you wanted to do to casey? IMO you dont murder someone you love.. Hate yes, love no

[ruth66]

so am I but this guy is bad... Afraid if hubby ever gets his hands on him..

Your daughter is lucky to have so much love and support from her family. I am sure she has told you that over and over, just in case you need to hear it one more time....your daughter is lucky to have such a loving and supporting family. My prayers for your family
and their safety. :wub:

[sammy62]

ITA.. I dont think c & g wanted to be bothered.. I also like you believe Caylee was abused.. check out those videos of the bath tub and one in the hairchair.. I whole heartly think she was abused and I also believe c and g knew it too..We'vee seen cindy's temper, georges temper and casey's temper.. and I'll bet Caylee seen them as well.. maybe the toys were bought after one of their tempers flared..

do you have a link to those two video's. I haven't seen them

[happygert]

ITA with you enough is enough.I wanted to find out about that little girl Jada but nothing but mj. I was so hoping to see the show about cindy. I can;t get any news on this case on the tv.maybe one day they will cover something except mj.jmho

coroner said yesterday that she was beat to death.. Mutiplie head trauma.. cousin beat her ,she wouldn't cry so she beat her in the head.. b/f said he tried to stop her but couldn't.she was high on heroin.. so he just went and watched t.v . they were going to get more heroin and she wasn't breathing so they tried to burn her then put her in a tub and poured concrete over her body took her an put her in shallow water.. they both plead not guilty.

[happygert]

do you have a link to those two video's. I haven't seen them

I'll se if I can find them..

[bchand]

I'll se if I can find them..

Here's a highchair one where she's being totally ignored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPje5WpOI00

[Chardonnay]

Here's a highchair one where she's being totally ignored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPje5WpOI00

It's so heart wrenching that she is being ignored like that.. :crying:

[Sun]

Darn. This is the 2nd time the cindy show has been bumped.

I was looking forward to watching something that WASN"T about michael jackson. No offense, anyone, but there's been nothing on for the past several days on every news channel than him. It's a little much!

Patience, patience my friend. Now you know how all those who don't have an interest in the Anthony case feel. LOL Just think, without media attention at all, that scam foundation of the Anthonys will be likely not do too good.

I enjoy seeing NG cover news in regards to Justice for Caylee. You can bet that if any BIG NEW NEWS breaks in the case, NG will be covering it.

[happygert]

Sammy hers the one at breakfast..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoeJm74dd4&feature=PlayList&p=ADAFD8D658EB455C&index=18

[happygert]

I cant find the one in the bath tub sorry..

[happygert]

Here's a highchair one where she's being totally ignored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPje5WpOI00

shucks I cant find the bath tub one do you have that one??

If its not bad enough she's being ignored in the high chair and if that's what george calls fixing her breakfast.. didnt take much time to throw some dry cereal on her tray and give her a glass of milk..


the one in bath tub she's playing all smiles then tries to get close to camera then she's crying and pulls back..

[Chardonnay]

I couldn't either Gert.. I wonder if it was pulled down, since she was in the tub.
Could there have been marks on her body? Just a WAG..

[5boxersmom]

shucks I cant find the bath tub one do you have that one??

If its not bad enough she's being ignored in the high chair and if that's what george calls fixing her breakfast.. didnt take much time to throw some dry cereal on her tray and give her a glass of milk..


the one in bath tub she's playing all smiles then tries to get close to camera then she's crying and pulls back..

I don't think I have ever saw the one in the bathtub. :confused:

I remember the one in the high chair and then one where she was coloring. Looked like she was in the living room, sitting on the floor with her crayons.

[AMS]

Argh I just read that Michael Jackson's body will be at his Neverland for a public viewing on Friday!!

Cindy's got a reprieve........for now :sneaky:

So do you think Cindy is relieved the NG show about her will not air or is she pizzed at Michael Jackson for dying and stealing her thunder?

My vote is that she is pizzed....


imo

[ruth66]

I couldn't either Gert.. I wonder if it was pulled down, since she was in the tub.

NG shows clips of it on her show when she covers the case. Both videos are troubling. It only makes me feel more and more that CAYLEE was merely an object to the A's and in her death she will continue to be just that to them as well as their fortune $$$$....sad

[ruth66]

So do you think Cindy is relieved the NG show about her will not air or is she pizzed at Michael Jackson for dying and stealing her thunder?

My vote is that she is pizzed....


imo

make that 2 votes for "pizzed". No attention = no $$$
Not to worry, Baez and Baden will show up on the TODAY SHOW soon just to muster up some interest. It happens just like clockwork....

[Sun]

So do you think Cindy is relieved the NG show about her will not air or is she pizzed at Michael Jackson for dying and stealing her thunder?

My vote is that she is pizzed....


imo

I bet that Cindy is PO'd at NG no matter what. LOL I'm just glad that NBC didn't decide to put the Anthonys on the "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" show.

[happygert]

I don't think I have ever saw the one in the bathtub. :confused:

I remember the one in the high chair and then one where she was coloring. Looked like she was in the living room, sitting on the floor with her crayons.

this one in the tub was heart breaking she's all smiles goes close to camera pointing her finger at the lense then backs away tears rolling an shes crying... so sad.. who ever was taking that video of Caylee something happened..

[bchand]

It's so heart wrenching that she is being ignored like that.. :crying:

I always thought so too. I prefer two way conversations when video taping is going on.

Others here disagreed with me. They said it ruined a video but "this" is bizarre IMO.

[happygert]

I know it breaks your heat to see her live in fear like she is doing. I will pray for her for God to give her some peace.My love and prayers go out to her.may God bless her.this man needs to be punished.jmho

Thank You Martha... he sure does...hoping he'll get it before he kills his wife... there was another guy that lived around here.... I told my hubby he make the papers some day for murder... he went to fla and lo and behold he murder a women..wish they would have done something before he killed someone.. seems like that keep letting guys like this off until they kill...

[happygert]

I always thought so too. I prefer two way conversations when video taping is going on.

Others here disagreed with me. They said it ruined a video but "this" is bizarre IMO.

ITA with you.. This is a small child wanting some attention.. how can you ruin a video when a child is begging for attention? bizarre indeed..

[martha]

coroner said yesterday that she was beat to death.. Mutiplie head trauma.. cousin beat her ,she wouldn't cry so she beat her in the head.. b/f said he tried to stop her but couldn't.she was high on heroin.. so he just went and watched t.v . they were going to get more heroin and she wasn't breathing so they tried to burn her then put her in a tub and poured concrete over her body took her an put her in shallow water.. they both plead not guilty.Thank you so much for telling me this that is so sad. I still think casey was doing drugs. Do they check some one when the arrest them? She may have been on a diet pill.Some of them or strong and make you mean.jmho

[5boxersmom]

this one in the tub was heart breaking she's all smiles goes close to camera pointing her finger at the lense then backs away tears rolling an shes crying... so sad.. who ever was taking that video of Caylee something happened..

Seems heartless. Let me see if Faith has it over there. :crying:

BRB

[martha]

Thank You Martha... he sure does...hoping he'll get it before he kills his wife... there was another guy that lived around here.... I told my hubby he make the papers some day for murder... he went to fla and lo and behold he murder a women..wish they would have done something before he killed someone.. seems like that keep letting guys like this off until they kill...
I total agree with you they let them of to easy. They have to kill someone before they do anything to them. Maybe this man will be put away befoe he harms his wife. I so want your daughter to be ok and be able to go on with out all the fear. I do understand where she is coming from I would be the same way.jmho

[Shades]

coroner said yesterday that she was beat to death.. Mutiplie head trauma.. cousin beat her ,she wouldn't cry so she beat her in the head.. b/f said he tried to stop her but couldn't.she was high on heroin.. so he just went and watched t.v . they were going to get more heroin and she wasn't breathing so they tried to burn her then put her in a tub and poured concrete over her body took her an put her in shallow water.. they both plead not guilty.


Happygert,
What case are U talking about here??

[happygert]

Thank you so much for telling me this that is so sad. I still think casey was doing drugs. Do they check some one when the arrest them? She may have been on a diet pill.Some of them or strong and make you mean.jmho

very sad... ITA she was on something.. I dont think they check you unless you were involved in accident and they suspect your drunk or high..IMO casey's just down right EVIL..

[happygert]

Happygert,
What case are U talking about here??



O/T Jada Justice from gary in..she was also 2

[happygert]

Seems heartless. Let me see if Faith has it over there. :crying:

BRB


ok thanks .............

[martha]

Sorry so long you guys, my link wouldn't work so had to copy and paste the story....it is close to my home....and so tragic what happened to this little girl...horrific...won't take that much space again though CW!thank you so very much I so wanted to know what happened to this beautiful little girl.what is wrong with people that can harm a beautiful baby? it has to be evil and I mean they have to be evil to the bone.jmho

[Dells]

AH the one line of LK that spoke volumes is when Cindy was running interferance for Casey that Cindy also partied at that age. LK response: Not when your child was missing.........:sneaky: SMACK DOWN!

Oh, that was priceless!:thumbup: Just goes to show you how The Anthony's defense of Casey and her behavior is just totally absurd. LK was definitely not buying what they were selling.

[Dells]

Hello fellow posters! I am glad for the "lull" in this case, that means that interest is dying down and GA & CA's chance of making more money on poor CAYLEE is diminishing as I write. For that I am grateful! The next chapter should be that the murderer of CAYLEE be made to pay for her crime.

JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE! :thumbsup:

Bolding mine....

So true. Also, with the interest dying down a little bit, it may also have an impact on the COV motion in that a COV won't happen. Of course I can just see JB saying that the damage has already been done...:rolleyes:

[Dells]

ITA.. I dont think c & g wanted to be bothered.. I also like you believe Caylee was abused.. check out those videos of the bath tub and one in the hairchair.. I whole heartly think she was abused and I also believe c and g knew it too..We'vee seen cindy's temper, georges temper and casey's temper.. and I'll bet Caylee seen them as well.. maybe the toys were bought after one of their tempers flared..

I wouldn't doubt that Caylee suffered from neglect as well. I am sure that Casey plopped her in front of the TV or her toys and offered very limited supervision for her while she either was on her cell phone or on her computer.

[AMS]

What is with this video when the camera goes up under the the tray of the highchair at 1:25 mark? That is spooky scary to me - almost under her clothes and between her legs....WTH?? Too strange...

I thought the same thing. Really made me wonder the purpose of the video...

imo

[ConchGirl]

Hey anything about a change of venue in Ohio I just got summoned for jury duty :w00t:

I have jury duty July 27th. I am one of the only people I know who prays to get picked. ( Hate civil trials hope for criminal) jmo

[gaelicpeas]

I have jury duty July 27th. I am one of the only people I know who prays to get picked. ( Hate civil trials hope for criminal) jmoI have been called for jury duty ONCE in 39 years of eligibility. That one time was last year and I was really busy at work at the time. Turns out my number was never called. So, to this day, I have NEVER served on a jury, and I really want to! JMO, and sorry if OT.

[Neffy]

I have jury duty July 27th. I am one of the only people I know who prays to get picked. ( Hate civil trials hope for criminal) jmo

No kidding!!! That's when I report! Just came in the mail today.

[Daffodil]

5 years ago my daughter who was 18 was missing for 8 days with a physcopath and his scitzo mom. wbtw beat her the night before and police released him.. I did not get any help from LE because she was 18..and even tho this physcopath had been arrested for domestic battery not once but several times (against many different girls)would not help find her.. I could barely function for 8 very long days let alone thinking about partying.. No mom who's child is "missing" has anything on there mind but finding your child and finding her safe.. No casey's action were not that of a mom who had a child missing.. casey's actions were that of a mom who knew exactly where their child was..
My daughter was found alive by the grace of god.. and pepper spray.. he tried to kill her with and axe and butcher knife....I can tell you I still remember everything about the day she went missing like it was yesterday..

Partying ,feeling other girls up, bedhoping,shopping, cooking for your b/f and getting tattooed is not what a mother does when her child is "MISSING".. casey did all things because she knew exactly where Caylee was... Caylee was not missing she was dead and threw away like trash..


Happygert,

My heart goes out to you. I could never imagine being in that situation. I told my husband that when our children are grown, that I will need to know every single day that they are okay.

I hope your daughter is doing okay these days. Must have been so traumatic and hard to get past it and move on with life.

Prayers for her and you.

[KP1935]

I have jury duty July 27th. I am one of the only people I know who prays to get picked. ( Hate civil trials hope for criminal) jmo

I'm 1 for 1, albeit I only got a civil trial, but it was interesting. Something like this case would be crazy.

Anybody have any ideas on whether the jury would be sequestered for this trial? One would think if the deny COV they'd have to sequester as it will be all over the media in Orlando.

[happygert]

Happygert,

My heart goes out to you. I could never imagine being in that situation. I told my husband that when our children are grown, that I will need to know every single day that they are okay.

I hope your daughter is doing okay these days. Must have been so traumatic and hard to get past it and move on with life.

Prayers for her and you.

thank you.. she's still having some problems.. he messed with her so much.. she still fears that he will come after her..she's still traumatized

[cassidy]

I always thought so too. I prefer two way conversations when video taping is going on.

Others here disagreed with me. They said it ruined a video but "this" is bizarre IMO.

I'm with you all the way. I have countless videos of my granddaughters and there is always someone yacking at them or with them. Lots of interaction. The silence in Caylee's videos is odd to me.

JMO

[summer4meplz]

Sorry so long you guys, my link wouldn't work so had to copy and paste the story....it is close to my home....and so tragic what happened to this little girl...horrific...won't take that much space again though CW!


another precious baby tortured and murdered.....I'm so sorry to hear this horrible story.......I hope they both RIH and may the baby rest in peace.....was this in florida too?

[AnniePie]

:w00t::scared: I'v got to wash that man right out of my mind!

I'm passing over the industrial-strength brain scrubber, Karen. Good luck with that. :smile:

[AnniePie]

Hey anything about a change of venue in Ohio I just got summoned for jury duty :w00t:

:w00t: Oh, you couldn't be that lucky!! :w00t:

[happygert]

OMG Gert! That is so sad - I hope with your love and care that she is recovered from what that monster put her (and your entire family) through - so glad you had a better ending than most of these cases we read about lately...God was by her side it sounds like to me....

Is he in jail - or did he get in any other trouble with the law?

NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine... .. they took her to Mich.. when we got her she was in Gary In.. the mgr of radio shack kept her hid in the backroom until we got her.... thank god for her.. she was a real hero to us...

[crimeq]

1. There is something incriminating on the receipts. A winnie the poo replacement blankie, laundry bag, etc.

2. Something purcahsed which shows Casey's state of mind while her Daughter was missing. Lots of clothing purchases for her nights out.

3. Cindy being Cindy. Wanting to get her way. Not wanting to acknowledge that if her Daughter had a REAL job, she wouldn't be using her cards to charge.

I understand, but LE could easily get copies of all bills from JCPenney and didn't have to rely on Cindy to provide them--so I don't understand why that was dragged out into such a big deal :confused:

LE could have had them directly, before Cindy could say "no".

[AnnieBell]

During psycho's interview with LE she tells the investigator that R.M, Troy & A.H are all into drugs. "We talked to another agency, they're all into drugs" & "A.H lying about going to Tony's only once, she's the one who introduced them", Tony and R.M have some dealings---they have the money and the means"

As for the bail, psycho tells LE she could have mini psycho out today, the bail money is not an issue.

Psycho asks about the video from the airport and LE tell her it's being looked into but psycho still wants that video and says "we have friends in Homeland Security, I think I'll call them and find out about the airport thing...bozo had been asking for the same footage.

A aha moment** when N.L was interviewed LE zoomed in on the drug issue. LE asked N.L about the Xanax or Zani Bars b/c they knew mini psycho was getting her pot from Cameron.

Another aha moment: During R.M's interview LE suddenly says something has come up and asks R.M if he knows anything about
the Bithlo area, Chuluota Rd, Alafays & 50 or Lake Pickett? R.M says a guy named Steve lived down 50 and mini psycho was involved with him the prior year. Steve lives in a community with pretty nice houses. (Follow Me here) When LE was interviewing N.L they find out that N.L had been renting a house off of Alafaya with buddy Cameron (who allegedly is the source for xanax. N.L tells the interviewed that mini psycho was at that house for a party he threw for a friend. N.L moved in with Tony the first of June b/c the lease on the house was up and he and Tony were going to get a place together after Tony's lease was up.

N.L tells LE that when big brother came over that night to pick up mini psycho's stuff, Lee told them his relationship with mini me and his relationship with psycho aren't solid relationships.

Disclaimer: just my moo:sleep:

[AnniePie]

sorry , thought you were asking about the other guy JB defended... NO he's not.. Sorry to say.. However we will be reading about him one day.. I'm afraid the next one wont be so lucky.. He threatened my daughter that the state he took her too had a lot of water and the only way she was getting out of there was in 6 pieces.. and no one would find her.. He's now married .I don't know if this poor girl had any idea what he 's capable of when she married him.. but Im sure she knows by now.... He reminds me of casey .. got by with a lot and now he thinks he can do what ever with no consequences.. I fear this girl will eventually end up dead.. Its been 5 years and my daughter is still afraid he'll get her.. at xmas she seen a car like his grandma's and had 3 people in it she froze.. she thinks it was him.. she won't go anywhere by herself..if her b/f or one of her friends cant be with her I am.. if he's not at home and no one can be with her she stays here makes him come and get her.. she has got her 2 dogs one a pit which I totally dont like that breed.. sleeps with ballbat by her bed.. locks all doors and windows even in day time..will not walk to car by herself either in daylight or dark.. needless to say he's done a number on that poor girl of mine...

I'm so sorry about what your poor daughter has gone through, Gert! No one should have to live this way. I hope he moves to the other end of the earth and she can be finished with her fear of him.

[AnniePie]

I am normally a law-abiding person who values "human' life....but I know I would be seriously looking for a way to get rid of that guy.

I thought just the same thing, CD. Some of these humans just aren't really human though. :crying:

[AnniePie]

Rut Roe.... NG has put on the brakes, and will not be airing the episodes covering Cindy Anthony as scheduled.

HLN has decided to cover the latest developments in the Michael Jackson saga on Friday and Monday.

OGMAB! It's not like we haven't heard every single thing that could possibly be told about MJ and his life story. I am so tired of every station re-doing what's already been said and done.

I love NG and I think she helps a lot of crime victims who wouldn't otherwise have a voice, and it bothers me bigtime that she's not talking about Hayleigh and Jada and the other little Hayleigh whose mom and SO boyfriend took her "camping". Not to mention keeping Caylee's case out there.

I'm going to write NG and tell her so. It may be a drop in the bucket, but I'll do what I can to express my anger.

[AnniePie]

do you have a link to those two video's. I haven't seen them

Just do a google search and you can find them, sam. I didn't see the bath tub one, but the one with her in the high chair and the camera going up her little skirt is unbelievable. Not a single word is spoken by the person behind the camera. I was so creeped out.

[Sandy001]

If you read the Clerk of Courts records for the other Murder trial that Baez worked on, he filed more than once to get "his" fees paid. Very interesting reading.

Nilton Diaz --- other murder case of Baez's.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=78899567%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20
One of my children needed a pro bono atty in another state. She got one, BUT the STATE billed and sent the charges to a collection agency So much for "free" attorney if you can't pay for it.

[Sun]

OGMAB! It's not like we haven't heard every single thing that could possibly be told about MJ and his life story. I am so tired of every station re-doing what's already been said and done.

I love NG and I think she helps a lot of crime victims who wouldn't otherwise have a voice, and it bothers me bigtime that she's not talking about Hayleigh and Jada and the other little Hayleigh whose mom and SO boyfriend took her "camping". Not to mention keeping Caylee's case out there.

I'm going to write NG and tell her so. It may be a drop in the bucket, but I'll do what I can to express my anger.

The choice that NG made to cover MJ doesn't anger me. Not one bit. With the media giving the Anthonys the bench, just think what no publicity is doing for their scam foundation. I guess that I am becoming content with the idea of less media exposure, just as long as all court proceedings are being aired live.

[Sandy001]

Oh gert, what a horrible experience for your family! I'm glad she was found!!

And yes, ITA with you. casey partied her azz off and was the happiest she'd ever been. She was only worried about her mother finding out.

I've been wondering since this story broke what in casey's life changed in the year or so before she murdered Caylee. Was there one thing that pushed her over the edge? Maybe a combination of a couple things?

She had Caylee when she was still a teenager. Beautiful fun little baby girl, fun to dress up and tote around for folks to "oooh" and "ahhh" over. That usually wears off.....and single friends don't always want to hear every little detail of someone else's kids life, they don't have kids themselves and can't relate. KWIM?


Then there is casey's age....she turned 21 in March of 2007 IIRC. Before she was 21, all partying had to be done at someone's house or somewhere similar...easy to lay the baby down to sleep and party on, but once she turned 21 and started going to clubs it wasn't as easy. Couldn't bring Caylee along as easily anymore.

Then of course there's the new bf who didn't want girls.



MOO

Yet she had a single nanny who allegedly likes to go clubing (didn't Casey claim to be looking for her where she hung out when she was clubbing?) YEAHRIGHT moo

[Sandy001]

OGMAB! It's not like we haven't heard every single thing that could possibly be told about MJ and his life story. I am so tired of every station re-doing what's already been said and done.

I love NG and I think she helps a lot of crime victims who wouldn't otherwise have a voice, and it bothers me bigtime that she's not talking about Hayleigh and Jada and the other little Hayleigh whose mom and SO boyfriend took her "camping". Not to mention keeping Caylee's case out there.

I'm going to write NG and tell her so. It may be a drop in the bucket, but I'll do what I can to express my anger.


I'm with Sun. Nancy does more than most newscasters do to put missing children in the forefront of the news. It is her producer's choice to show what they do. I am sure she will be back to her normal programming soon.

Nancy only appears to work with legit missing people agencies, for whidch I am thankful. Can you imagine what would happen if Nancy spotlighted KidFinders(NOT)

[Tia]

The choice that NG made to cover MJ doesn't anger me. Not one bit. With the media giving the Anthonys the bench, just think what no publicity is doing for their scam foundation. I guess that I am becoming content with the idea of less media exposure, just as long as all court proceedings are being aired live.


It doesn't bother me either. I bet it bothers Cindy though!!! When NG isn't covering Caylee's case and the media isn't camped outside of the Anthony home, it leaves them with nothing to do but face themselves and what their daughter did to Caylee. They have no diversions, nothing to get angry about and make a scene...I bet the Anthony home is a very sad and depressing place these days.

ETA: hopefully......all of the "alone time" the Anthony's are getting will cause someone to tell the TRUTH.

[AnniePie]

I'm with Sun. Nancy does more than most newscasters do to put missing children in the forefront of the news. It is her producer's choice to show what they do. I am sure she will be back to her normal programming soon.

Nancy only appears to work with legit missing people agencies, for whidch I am thankful. Can you imagine what would happen if Nancy spotlighted KidFinders(NOT)

I believe the day is coming when KF will have the spotlight shone on them. Either Nancy or Kathi Belich will do a piece on them, and the doo doo will hit the fan. I cannot wait for that to happen.

[Sun]

I believe the day is coming when KF will have the spotlight shone on them. Either Nancy or Kathi Belich will do a piece on them, and the doo doo will hit the fan. I cannot wait for that to happen.

I'm going to guess that the IRS will be looking into those scammers. Chances are, the government will eventually be the ones demanding answers. LOL Sadly, the government moves very slowly at times.

[martha]

I believe the day is coming when KF will have the spotlight shone on them. Either Nancy or Kathi Belich will do a piece on them, and the doo doo will hit the fan. I cannot wait for that to happen.I T A with you on this I hope there will come a day when the money stops and these people will have to get a job.JMHO

[Tia]

I T A with you on this I hope there will come a day when the money stops and these people will have to get a job.JMHO


Didn't Cindy's mom say that in one of the emails? That they should let LE handle this and get back to work?

(I read a LOT today...so I could be wrong!!)

[happygert]

I'm so sorry about what your poor daughter has gone through, Gert! No one should have to live this way. I hope he moves to the other end of the earth and she can be finished with her fear of him.

that would be nice.. However at this point I really dont know if that would be far enough.. After 5 years she's just as scared of him today as she was then..when she started dating him I told her he was trouble.. little did I know just how much.. that gut feeling mothers get that teenagers wont listen to.. ..I wish now I would have locked her in the house...

[Tia]

I am watching some of the Caylee videos.....I get what you all are talking about. (I didn't before)......like when Caylee was singing the ABC song.....when she was done, there was no cheering, not "Great job Caylee" Nothing! Nothing like my home videos of my kids.

[crimeq]

I am watching some of the Caylee videos.....I get what you all are talking about. (I didn't before)......like when Caylee was singing the ABC song.....when she was done, there was no cheering, not "Great job Caylee" Nothing! Nothing like my home videos of my kids.

Tia, I don't think I've seen that video. Do you happen to have the link handy?

[Unleashed]

I thought the same thing. Really made me wonder the purpose of the video...

imo

That made my heart freeze. :crying:

jmo

[Tia]

Tia, I don't think I've seen that video. Do you happen to have the link handy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YR2eAMD4LA&feature=related

(try not to cry.....!!)

[Dells]

Yet she had a single nanny who allegedly likes to go clubing (didn't Casey claim to be looking for her where she hung out when she was clubbing?) YEAHRIGHT moo

And if Casey was looking for Zanny the nanny out at clubs, just who did she think was watching Caylee?:sneaky: All of her lies are so transparent and they don't hold up to any scrutiny at all.

[ttcRider]

And if Casey was looking for Zanny the nanny out at clubs, just who did she think was watching Caylee?:sneaky: All of her lies are so transparent and they don't hold up to any scrutiny at all.

Zanny the nanny had a nanny :laugh:

[happygert]

does any one have the link to the video of Caylee in the bath tub?