Weekend Thread, June 27 & 28 #1

[Deannalynn]

I agree with that. But when a parent clearly is not involved in their childs disappearance we shouldn't blame them. We could play devils advocate and say those folks that can afford surveillance cameras in their home do nothing but document the abuse after the fact. Anyone rich or poor that let someone watch their children have a certain degree of expectation. Having surveillance in your home doesn't protect your kids it just provides evidence(if the abuse happens IN FRONT of those cameras.)

Oh I totally agree with you anon. That's why this issues is not for just family members and friends. One never knows just who might snap or be a less than desirable caregiver.
I remember going thru a licensed agency when my boy was a year old and I took the afternoon off and when I walked in my front door I heard my son crying in his crib and there sat the caregiver reading a magazine eating bon bons. When I walked in his room his diaper was wet and his sheets. I told her to leave immediately. This was 27 years ago. It's difficult to be right on making decisions on who will be taking great interest in your child. Very difficult.

[adair]

Someone brought this up a day or so ago.........when was the date that Cindy texted kc telling her "We have a problem"

What problem was that? That the car had been towed and not stolen?

Was C hoping to send kc a text to get kc to call her ? If that car had not been towed.....things would be a lot different. The A would have had time to get rid of it......but since Caylee was missing, as they probably figured that the car would eventually have to be accounted for, they were up against another wall.

If i were C my message would have been something like....if you dont get you & Caylee's behind home NOW. I am calling the law. I am afraid that you are both dead.................. Why pussyfoot around?

[desmom]

IMO, if Cindy hadn't "broken ranks" due to her rage over Casey costing them money, the entire Anthony family would have hid Caylee's death from everyone. Just like they attempted to deny that Casey was ever pregnant.

I think that Cindy's mind just had a mental breakdown from the "plan."

What excuse could they give for an absent 2 year old? She is with the nanny?

It might have worked in the beginning, but too many people knew about Caylee...Annie, Brittany, Lauren, Amy, Ricardo, JP, Troy, Tone, Cameron, the crew at Cast Iron Tattoos, Cindy's co-workers, the neighbors, Mark Hawkins, Chris Stutz, Lee's roommate, the Grunds, Mallory................

When Caylee's 3rd birthday or the holidays rolled around, I think there would be a lot of questions by the Grunds and Mallory.

jmo

[desmom]

Someone brought this up a day or so ago.........when was the date that Cindy texted kc telling her "We have a problem"

What problem was that? That the car had been towed and not stolen?

Was C hoping to send kc a text to get kc to call her ? If that car had not been towed.....things would be a lot different. The A would have had time to get rid of it......but since Caylee was missing, as they probably figured that the car would eventually have to be accounted for, they were up against another wall.

If i were C my message would have been something like....if you dont get you & Caylee's behind home NOW. I am calling the law. I am afraid that you are both dead.................. Why pussyfoot around?


Page 22 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2811460/Casey-Anthony-Documents-Released-Nov-26-012

7/15 16:27 from Momma "Call me asap major prob"

7/15 16:45 from Momma "Call me"

Page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

Shows the text messages above and:

Casey to Cindy's cell text at 16:44; Cindy's cell to Casey text at 16:45; Casey to Cindy's cell text at 16:48.

jmo

[Deannalynn]

IMO, if Cindy hadn't "broken ranks" due to her rage over Casey costing them money, the entire Anthony family would have hid Caylee's death from everyone. Just like they attempted to deny that Casey was ever pregnant.

I think that Cindy's mind just had a mental breakdown from the "plan."

This is the main problem Cindy has. She throws herself in a rage without thinking anything out. This is who she is. Act now and think (maybe) later. Cindy must have thrown Casey out of the house the night Casey grabbed Caylee and left. Cindy feels as guilty as if she's responsible for Caylee's death but it too late. Caylee is dead over all that was said and done on the night of the 15th of June, 2008.
LE would definently want to know moment by moment what was said, what took place and what came down on the night of the 15th when Casey and Caylee left the house.
This has been covered up since the beginning of this ordeal. This is right. This is why they claim the last time they seen Caylee was on the 16th. I do have a feeling the correct date will surface and the fight will come out, too.
jmo

[cassidy]

I think casey should get the same death that she gave Caylee.. hand cuff her hands behind her back shackle her feet then wrap her face in tape several times throw her in the trunk let her die. then throw her away and let the animals eat her and scatter her bones all over..

The Jada Justice murderers show be beat to death, burn and buried in concrete and put in water just like she was...

Maybe if these baby killers would be put to death the same way they murdered these innocent Babies they would get the message ..Lethal injection is too easy for them.. It's not a deterrent


So true! And you know what really makes me mad? Alot of these convicted criminals come back to court years later arguing that the death penalty is "cruel and unusual" punishment! Give me a break! they're getting off easy compared to their victims.


JMO

[cassidy]

On August 5, 2008, Cindy said, Casey`s a mom that puts an extra key in her pocket every time she takes her daughter in the car because she`s afraid if she tries to grab too many things and she leaves her purse she doesn't want to lock the car and not have a key that she can get in there and get her purse back out or to take care of her daughter.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/05/ng.01.html

Something had to happen to precipitate that action. Either Casey locked her keys in the car with Caylee routinely or she was caught locking Caylee in the car and lied about the keys being locked in there too.

JMO

[cassidy]

What excuse could they give for an absent 2 year old? She is with the nanny?

It might have worked in the beginning, but too many people knew about Caylee...Annie, Brittany, Lauren, Amy, Ricardo, JP, Troy, Tone, Cameron, the crew at Cast Iron Tattoos, Cindy's co-workers, the neighbors, Mark Hawkins, Chris Stutz, Lee's roommate, the Grunds, Mallory................

When Caylee's 3rd birthday or the holidays rolled around, I think there would be a lot of questions by the Grunds and Mallory.

jmo

Simple. Caylee's Dad showed up and demanded custody. They could tell people they were fighting it. In most cases it would be hard to hide the absence of a 2 year old. Not so hard in this case.

JMO

[Deannalynn]

So true! And you know what really makes me mad? Alot of these convicted criminals come back to court years later arguing that the death penalty is "cruel and unusual" punishment! Give me a break! they're getting off easy compared to their victims.


JMO

ITA...Duct taping an infants mouth and nose and cutting off their air supply til they die is not "cruel and unusual" punishment? Abducting and beating and molesting a baby is not "cruel and unusual" punishment. Dropping cold heavy cement over a child's body after you have killed them is NOT "cruel and unusual" punishment?
These felons have their rights. They are people too. They have the constitution to stand behind. They can get away with murder in the most vile, evil way.:angry:

[Sun]

What excuse could they give for an absent 2 year old? She is with the nanny?

It might have worked in the beginning, but too many people knew about Caylee...Annie, Brittany, Lauren, Amy, Ricardo, JP, Troy, Tone, Cameron, the crew at Cast Iron Tattoos, Cindy's co-workers, the neighbors, Mark Hawkins, Chris Stutz, Lee's roommate, the Grunds, Mallory................

When Caylee's 3rd birthday or the holidays rolled around, I think there would be a lot of questions by the Grunds and Mallory.

jmo

That is exactly what Casey had been telling everyone. And, for a month. Casey was already moving on to new friends who wouldn't ask her questions about Caylee. Casey left her home, so she wouldn't have to answer questions about Caylee. Now Casey sits in jail.

[Barbara fl.]

Simple. Caylee's Dad showed up and demanded custody. They could tell people they were fighting it. In most cases it would be hard to hide the absence of a 2 year old. Not so hard in this case.

JMO


Good morning everyone,

It probably would not have been that hard to excuse Caylee's absence IF THE ANTHONY'S wanted to....If Cindy and George would have realized what happened to Caylee before calling 911, they could have explained her absence for a short time by saying that she was with another family member or what ever, while they made plans to split from everyone around them.....like move far away where no one knew them and cut all ties to anyone that was close to them....

It would have taken some planing but I believe that the Anthony's would have done it to save Casey from what is yet to come....

They could have easily discarded any large remains that could be found in those woods and the rest would have went unnoticed....JMO

There have been many cases where peple have been charged wth murder of a child that took place 50 years or so earlier when another child tells from guilt....

If they would have stayed in that area and around all the people that knew them, it would have been impossible to pull off as Desmom says...there would have been too many people questioning where Caylee was and someone would have called the police eventually.....

[AnnieBell]

Came across this while looking into things and found this web site. Was anyone aware of this or is it new? These thieving maggots have got to be stopped. Open for ideas and suggestions.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/:cursing:

[Barbara fl.]

Came across this while looking into things and found this web site. Was anyone aware of this or is it new? These thieving maggots have got to be stopped. Open for ideas and suggestions.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/:cursing:


I'm getting "page not found".....I would love to see what you are saying.....

[Deannalynn]

I'm getting "page not found".....I would love to see what you are saying.....

Same thing here...:confused:

[desmom]

Came across this while looking into things and found this web site. Was anyone aware of this or is it new? These thieving maggots have got to be stopped. Open for ideas and suggestions.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/ :cursing:

Yeah it came up a while back.

They make it their mission to provide and coordinate Professional Search Teams. What professional search teams have they provided or coordinated?

IMO, must professional search teams have their own coordinators who are trained in S & R.

ETA: You have to c & p the addy. I think this little guy :cursing: is too close to the link.

[Barbara fl.]

A year ago today, Casey had to have been in a little bit of a panic. Tone and his roommate Cameron were preparing for their trips home on June 30 and would not return until July 5. She could not go to her parent's home because Caylee "was with the nanny" and she knew Cindy was not going to buy that story. Casey was about to become homeless.

How did the conversation go between Casey and Tone? Did she ask for a key to his apartment and he said no? What excuse did Tone give her if he did say no?

Lee asked Tone about a break in to his apartment. No date was mentioned. The only thing taken during the break in was $$ from Cameron. Did the break in occur while Tone and Cameron were out of state? Did Casey commit B & E?

jmo


Desmom, you are realy good...as much as I have been following this case from day one, I never realized that...

Was it ever mentioned where she stayed during that time?....If the break in was during that time, I guess we know the answer to that...

Thanks for all your good info.....

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone!

I haven't been around lately but I found a story this morning that reminds me of Casey and want to show you all.

Squirrel pops out of woman's cleavage

http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=108501&provider=top

There is a LE video to the right. Picture Casey sitting there with this squirrel popping out, rotflmao. :lol:

[~Dramatica~]

Here's a good video interview of Cindy on the M & J show on July 29th. She talks about casey's purse left in her car, (nothing stating it was just a 'work' purse/tote), the inconsistent cadaver dog alerts, Zanny, and a few other things. As usual Cindy winds up being rude and obnoxious and getting Juliet riled up. This is also an interview where she says it will be their (the media's) fault if Caylee isn't found and brought home.

Well worth rewatching almost a year later, and thinking about how she has embellished the stories since that date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZvEhnzlobA&feature=related

I hadn't seen this in a while. How can Cindy blame the media for not finding Caylee with no blame on Casey?:shrug:

[Sun]

Desmom, you are realy good...as much as I have been following this case from day one, I never realized that...

Was it ever mentioned where she stayed during that time?....If the break in was during that time, I guess we know the answer to that...

Thanks for all your good info.....

Was it during the time that Tony was in NY, that Casey showed William Waters some attention? My memory on that fellow is really shakey.

[gaelicpeas]

Was it during the time that Tony was in NY, that Casey showed William Waters some attention? My memory on that fellow is really shakey.
IIRC, Will Waters worked with Amy at a restaurant. He had the 4th of July party that Amy and Casey attended. Amy and Casey helped him set up the party.

[desmom]

Was it during the time that Tony was in NY, that Casey showed William Waters some attention? My memory on that fellow is really shakey.

William Waters interview with LE: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825199/Casey-Anthony-William-Waters-Interview

It sounds like he met Casey on July 4 when she went with Amy to his house to decorate for a 4th of July party.

On page 2, they had to go to Total Wine (liquor store, I think) to get a bucket for the keg. They would not sell them one because Casey did not have an ID.**

Casey played hostess at the party by making sure everyone was taken care of and cleaned up after the party.

On July 5, Casey was at his door at 9:30 a.m. and they hung out together. Over lunch Casey told Waters she was getting a place with a friend who also has children so the could split the expense of Caylee's nanny. Later Casey called Will on the way to pick up Tone at the airport. She talked to him all the way up the escalator at the airport.

Casey and Will made several dates, but Casey never showed. His only contact with her after 7/05 was by phone or text messages.

**This is the 2nd time a witness reported Casey did not have an ID. Matt Crisp showed Tone an apartment on June 19. Casey was with him and because she did not have an ID with her, he was not able to show the apartment to her. page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4824071/Casey-Anthony-Matthew-Crisp-interview

jmo

[AnnieBell]

I'm getting "page not found".....I would love to see what you are saying.....

Pull up the cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net and on left hand side click on links. Warning, it can make you homicidal!!!!

[AnnieBell]

Same thing here...:confused:

Pull up cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net and click on links on left side. I have to warn you it may make you homicidal!!!!

[Sun]

Something had to happen to precipitate that action. Either Casey locked her keys in the car with Caylee routinely or she was caught locking Caylee in the car and lied about the keys being locked in there too.

JMO

Or, Casey had been admonished by Cindy for leaving Caylee unattended in an unlocked car when she was out and about.

I really have gotten the impressions that Casey treated Caylee like more of a possession, and really didn't have those special feelings/bond that a mother has with a child. I don't think that Casey had that fear/emotion that most mothers have in regards to their children.

[cassidy]

I'm getting "page not found".....I would love to see what you are saying.....


http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/

Here it is. the icon was too close to the URL and was getting included.

[~Dramatica~]

William Waters interview with LE: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825199/Casey-Anthony-William-Waters-Interview

It sounds like he met Casey on July 4 when she went with Amy to his house to decorate for a 4th of July party.

On page 2, they had to go to Total Wine (liquor store, I think) to get a bucket for the keg. They would not sell them one because Casey did not have an ID.**

Casey played hostess at the party by making sure everyone was taken care of and cleaned up after the party.

On July 5, Casey was at his door at 9:30 a.m. and they hung out together. Over lunch Casey told Waters she was getting a place with a friend who also has children so the could split the expense of Caylee's nanny. Later Casey called Will on the way to pick up Tone at the airport. She talked to him all the way up the escalator at the airport.

Casey and Will made several dates, but Casey never showed. His only contact with her after 7/05 was by phone or text messages.

**This is the 2nd time a witness reported Casey did not have an ID. Matt Crisp showed Tone an apartment on June 19. Casey was with him and because she did not have an ID with her, he was not able to show the apartment to her. page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4824071/Casey-Anthony-Matthew-Crisp-interview

jmo

Do we know what ID she used to cash the checks? tia

[cassidy]

G'morning, everyone!

I haven't been around lately but I found a story this morning that reminds me of Casey and want to show you all.

Squirrel pops out of woman's cleavage

http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=108501&provider=top

There is a LE video to the right. Picture Casey sitting there with this squirrel popping out, rotflmao. :lol:

LOL that was on my local news last nite! Oddly enough (since you mentioned Casey) Warren Oh is in Trumbull County. LOL
JMO

[Sun]

desmom, that "no id" thing going on with Casey, may have been because her DL was in fact inside her car (which by this time had been towed). However, we know that Casey showed some type of ID when she cashed Amy's checks. And, she has charges against her for "fraudulant use of id" or something like that. ....I'm going to guess that Casey made up her own FAKE ID, after realizing just how tough things were without one. Either that, or she was using someone else's id.

[Sun]

testing.... testing.... testing..... 11:13 a.m. est

[adair]

Something had to happen to precipitate that action. Either Casey locked her keys in the car with Caylee routinely or she was caught locking Caylee in the car and lied about the keys being locked in there too.

JMO


I also thought it was strange when Cindy was being interviewed by LE and a detective made some mention about moving cindys purse, and she said, oh a woman never looses her purse.

Well I must not fit into her category........I have lost/misplaced my purse usually its once or twice a year. I usually find it at work or a friends house, I guess i have been lucky so far. But anyway I thought that comment was of interest. jmo

[adair]

Do you think the lights will flicker all over Florida when they flip the switch?


Maybe the people of FL will turn out the lights.....all the more to go to kc. Actually i doubt it she will get the chair........lethal injection is what i am betting on. jmo

[trich]

Is the speculation still that the defense is going to try the
"someone else killed Caylee" and is framing Casey?
The reason I ask is my mind started wandering while having a walk this morning ....I live in a rural area and we have dead animals from time to time along the edge of the woods and as I walked I smelled first and saw last a dead raccoon (I think it was) and of course I thought about poor Caylee.
And started to think.....if someone else killed Caylee and wanted to blame it on Casey why would they even take the body out of the trunk.
Why not leave it there.
Why take a chance that someone might see if they dumped it
in the woods where she was found?
Would it not be more convincing if the "remains" were still in the trunk
when the car was towed and the Anthony's got it.
The man from the impound yard was there when the trunk was opened so we know that George or Cindy did not take the remains and hide it.
Although I would not have put it past them to do that had they been alone when they opened the trunk and found her.
I mean why would anyone think someone else put the body in the trunk and then went to the trouble of removing it .....doesn't make any kind of sense to me.....the only person who needed to hide/throw away the
remains is Casey.IMO

That and the 31 days would be enough for guilty verdict IMO.

[need2no]

I also thought it was strange when Cindy was being interviewed by LE and a detective made some mention about moving cindys purse, and she said, oh a woman never looses her purse.

Well I must not fit into her category........I have lost/misplaced my purse usually its once or twice a year. I usually find it at work or a friends house, I guess i have been lucky so far. But anyway I thought that comment was of interest. jmo

My take on the comment from Cindy was she's trying to imply someone took casey's car. In other words she's saying it's highly unlikely casey would purposefully walk away and leave her purse behind in the car.

[adair]

testing.... testing.... testing..... 11:13 a.m. est

I feel like we are running in circles...........when Lee brought back the stuff kc had left at AL (?) wasn't there more then one id was found. This is just speculation. Could her id have been in AL when he left, so she did not have access to it? Law Enforcement does have that now, right? Does anyone recall what i am typing about?

[need2no]

desmom, that "no id" thing going on with Casey, may have been because her DL was in fact inside her car (which by this time had been towed). However, we know that Casey showed some type of ID when she cashed Amy's checks. And, she has charges against her for "fraudulant use of id" or something like that. ....I'm going to guess that Casey made up her own FAKE ID, after realizing just how tough things were without one. Either that, or she was using someone else's id.

Casey probably had more than one DL. I worked with a lady, (kinda scatter brained), who went to the DMV and told them she had lost her license so she could get a new one. She hadn't really lost her license, just wanted to have 2 so she'd never be without one if she needed it. She carried one in her purse and left one in her car in case she forgot to grab her purse.

Casey had plenty of time on her hands but I doubt she was smart enough to make up her own fake ID.

[Deannalynn]

I feel like we are running in circles...........when Lee brought back the stuff kc had left at AL (?) wasn't there more then one id was found. This is just speculation. Could her id have been in AL when he left, so she did not have access to it? Law Enforcement does have that now, right? Does anyone recall what i am typing about?

AL:confused: Is that not Andrea Lyons the DP attorney?

[KatieLady]

AL:confused: Is that not Andrea Lyons the DP attorney?

Tony (Anthony) Lazaro

[AnnieBell]

I feel like we are running in circles...........when Lee brought back the stuff kc had left at AL (?) wasn't there more then one id was found. This is just speculation. Could her id have been in AL when he left, so she did not have access to it? Law Enforcement does have that now, right? Does anyone recall what i am typing about?

Lee told the investigator that he saw casey's d.l and another i.d. that was smaller but the police officer standing there suddenly snatched this id out of the wallet. Lee was somewhat shocked about how fast she(LE) jerked that card out of there.

light bulb moment: casey didn't leave her wallet in the car, purse yes but not the wallet because Lee picked it up from AL and Lee,George and Cindy went through it and found the JcPenny and Sears credit card along with approx. $200.00 cash all twenty's that Cindy stashed in her pocket.

[Sun]

Casey probably had more than one DL. I worked with a lady, (kinda scatter brained), who went to the DMV and told them she had lost her license so she could get a new one. She hadn't really lost her license, just wanted to have 2 so she'd never be without one if she needed it. She carried one in her purse and left one in her car in case she forgot to grab her purse.

Casey had plenty of time on her hands but I doubt she was smart enough to make up her own fake ID.

Wouldn't that be illegal? In other words, wouldn't the replacement ID be the legal one, and the "lost" one invalid? Legally, that is.

[Sun]

Is the speculation still that the defense is going to try the
"someone else killed Caylee" and is framing Casey?
The reason I ask is my mind started wandering while having a walk this morning ....I live in a rural area and we have dead animals from time to time along the edge of the woods and as I walked I smelled first and saw last a dead raccoon (I think it was) and of course I thought about poor Caylee.
And started to think.....if someone else killed Caylee and wanted to blame it on Casey why would they even take the body out of the trunk.
Why not leave it there.
Why take a chance that someone might see if they dumped it
in the woods where she was found?
Would it not be more convincing if the "remains" were still in the trunk
when the car was towed and the Anthony's got it.
The man from the impound yard was there when the trunk was opened so we know that George or Cindy did not take the remains and hide it.Although I would not have put it past them to do that had they been alone when they opened the trunk and found her.
I mean why would anyone think someone else put the body in the trunk and then went to the trouble of removing it .....doesn't make any kind of sense to me.....the only person who needed to hide/throw away the
remains is Casey.IMO

That and the 31 days would be enough for guilty verdict IMO.

(bolded by me) Actually, we don't know this. George made an effort to be sure that the towyard fellow saw for himself that there was no body in the trunk, before George drove away. ...that sort of makes me highly suspicious. If George thought that the smell was of a dead body, then why didn't he immediately call 911? It's too bad that the towyard fellow didn't immediately dial 911.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, I can not believe it has been over a year since this all started. I had hoped by now the killer would have been punished. I can tell now it will take a long time for this to ever go to trial. I sure am glad casey is in jail and I don;t see anyone elce that could have done this since there is no nanny. I have no idea when they will ever have a trial but I guess as long as casey is in jail everything is ok. I just wish the a;s could be stoped from making money of off little Caylee. I wish the money to them would stop. They need to go back to work. I would have thought g and c would have gotten casey out of jail by now with all the money they or making but I dont think they want her out of jail because they don;t know what she will do next. They think she will mess up again. They may not even want her in their house. I am sure no one in the family wants to deal with her and all the lies she is telling. If jb don;t have any cases but casey;s what is he living on? I know lawyers have to do so many cases a year pro bono but they don;t have to do all of them that way.All the def.lawyers and other people just want their name on tv so they can have more cases in the future.jmho

[101Spots]

O/T I know we've all made fun of him, but.......

Billy Mays found dead at age 50 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4292771)

[trich]

(bolded by me) Actually, we don't know this. George made an effort to be sure that the towyard fellow saw for himself that there was no body in the trunk, before George drove away. ...that sort of makes me highly suspicious. If George thought that the smell was of a dead body, then why didn't he immediately call 911? It's too bad that the towyard fellow didn't immediately dial 911.

I thought I remembered that both George and the impound guy walked to the car together and opened the trunk.
the only way George knew where the car was in the yard was for the guy to take him to it.
The guy actually took the garbage bag and dumped it's contents in the trash there.
He was there at the trunk.
Yes it smelled of decomp but I do not see any way George could have taken the body out of the trunk there at the yard.....where would he have been able to hide it.

[Sun]

I thought I remembered that both George and the impound guy walked to the car together and opened the trunk.
the only way George knew where the car was in the yard was for the guy to take him to it.
The guy actually took the garbage bag and dumped it's contents in the trash there.
He was there at the trunk.
Yes it smelled of decomp but I do not see any way George could have taken the body out of the trunk there at the yard.....where would he have been able to hide it.

(the notice that was left on the front door of the Anthony home on July 11th, did identify the towyard) I'm not completely convinced that was the very first time that George may have been to the towyard. If it was, then you are right, George probably didn't have the opportunity at that time, to remove anything from the trunk.

It is interesting to note that the towyard fellow did go back and search for that bag, once he saw the news about Caylee. (LE had already retrieved it though).

[Sandy001]

I remember reading that Baez' daughter went to the same high school as Casey, but I have never seen any proof that they knew one another. I am extremely suspicious of how Casey hooked up with Baez. I think if we knew that, we might know a LOT more about this case. Just call me a "conspiracy theorist." Unfortunately, I have no theory to go with the conspiracy since I haven't seen or read any clues to support one. I do know that criminal attorneys do NOT call potential clients like tort lawyers, aka ambulance chasers, do. The FIRST thing on the mind of a defense attorney is: Does this criminal have the means to pay me? At least enough to warrant my having a face-to-face with him/her? Defense attorneys do NOT work on the if/come. They obtain the $ up front. Remember that Casey was a nobody local criminal when she hooked up with Baez initially, and there was absolutely no way Baez could even dream that this case might go national providing him with a bunch of publicity.Absolutely, these guys want their money up front - because most people who need defense attys are not able to afford them. Youd on't see pro bono attys for the prosecution and the only reason tort lawyers are pro bono is b ecuase they take a HUGE HUNK of any judgments. A old neighbor of mine had to pay $4000 up front on a simple case of allegedly pushing his wife. I can only imagine how much a heavy-duty case like this would cost.l Don't forget Mark Garegos allegedly got a million for defending Scott Peterson and he then had to have the state pay for his experts. You sure don't hear of any well-known defense attorneys jumping in to defend Casey. No Mickey Sherman, no Mark Garegos, no Geoffrey Feiger, no Roy Black, no Gerry Spence.

Yes, they have LKB, but I never heard of her until Spectre and then only in regards to conflict of interest. Ditto for Andrea Lyon.

[toadii]

Mally-Bu! is dog-sitting two cutie-pa-tooties! Should be a nice weekend **I will forever miss you, Caylee Marie**

If they are the Ant's dogs, then maybe G&C are traveling to promote their fundation this weekend. Perhaps an extreme SAR? Their weekend for the boat?

The Ants are losing the limelight, which is not their style. It will be interesting to see what they will come up with next to attract media attention away from current affairs.

[Kathlb]

AL Is that not Andrea Lyons the DP attorney?

Hi Everyone, I have the same thoughts as you Deannalynn. I can hardly read the forum anymore due to all of the changing and using of abbreviations. :sad: And now we're even using the same abbreviations for two people. :crying::scared:

[Sandy001]

Is the speculation still that the defense is going to try the
"someone else killed Caylee" and is framing Casey?
The reason I ask is my mind started wandering while having a walk this morning ....I live in a rural area and we have dead animals from time to time along the edge of the woods and as I walked I smelled first and saw last a dead raccoon (I think it was) and of course I thought about poor Caylee.
And started to think.....if someone else killed Caylee and wanted to blame it on Casey why would they even take the body out of the trunk.
Why not leave it there.
Why take a chance that someone might see if they dumped it
in the woods where she was found?
Would it not be more convincing if the "remains" were still in the trunk
when the car was towed and the Anthony's got it.
The man from the impound yard was there when the trunk was opened so we know that George or Cindy did not take the remains and hide it.
Although I would not have put it past them to do that had they been alone when they opened the trunk and found her.
I mean why would anyone think someone else put the body in the trunk and then went to the trouble of removing it .....doesn't make any kind of sense to me.....the only person who needed to hide/throw away the
remains is Casey.IMO

That and the 31 days would be enough for guilty verdict IMO.

Excllent point. Someone who wants to FRAME someone would want the body discovered immediently, not 5-6 months later. Again, we go to REASONABLE doubt.

The fact that someone wanted to frame Casey would require a motive - why would someone want to frame her. Money? She had none. Sex? She more than willingly gave that out for free. Revenge? Granted that there could have been someone who wanted to get even with her, it is NOT REASONABLE that someone would kill Caylee to frame Casey adn then go to all the trouble to distance the body from Casey.

[Buttoneyes]

Absolutely, these guys want their money up front - because most people who need defense attys are not able to afford them. Youd on't see pro bono attys for the prosecution and the only reason tort lawyers are pro bono is b ecuase they take a HUGE HUNK of any judgments. A old neighbor of mine had to pay $4000 up front on a simple case of allegedly pushing his wife. I can only imagine how much a heavy-duty case like this would cost.l Don't forget Mark Garegos allegedly got a million for defending Scott Peterson and he then had to have the state pay for his experts. You sure don't hear of any well-known defense attorneys jumping in to defend Casey. No Mickey Sherman, no Mark Garegos, no Geoffrey Feiger, no Roy Black, no Gerry Spence.

Yes, they have LKB, but I never heard of her until Spectre and then only in regards to conflict of interest. Ditto for Andrea Lyon.

Some on here yesterday said that the state of FL pays $ 5000 for indigent defendants to get a lawyer. I know NOTHING about how the FL criminal justice system operates, but most places if you claim to be indigent and need a court appointed attorney to represent you - that's exactly what you get - an attorney appointed by the court from a rotating list maintained by the Judical system, not a choice of your own attorney and then having the taxpayers pick up the tab for his bill. I have seen it reported early on that Casey chose Baez (some said from a recommendation of another person in the lock-up, others said from picking up his card which he left in abundance at the jail to solicit business,) but nobody seems to know where the $ came from to pay him to have an initial meeting in regard to representing her when she was only charged with child abuse or neglect, whatever the charges were on her first arrest. The Anthony's didn't pay his retainer and Casey had no $, so who picked up the tab?

[Sun]

Can you believe that Baez has only been in the courtroom one time since March 25th? That was on May 28th. This case has slowed to a crawl. No depos are being taken. Are we seeing a shift, with Lyon taking the reins? If so, the delay is more than reasonable for her to be able to get up to speed with the case.

The State has asked for the check/fraud charges to be heard this summer. Would this be ruled on by a jury, and if so, then is the venue an issue that would have to be addressed? I have no clue as to how this all works.

[Eagleeye]

Good morning everyone, I can not believe it has been over a year since this all started. I had hoped by now the killer would have been punished. I can tell now it will take a long time for this to ever go to trial. I sure am glad casey is in jail and I don;t see anyone elce that could have done this since there is no nanny. I have no idea when they will ever have a trial but I guess as long as casey is in jail everything is ok. I just wish the a;s could be stoped from making money of off little Caylee. I wish the money to them would stop. They need to go back to work. I would have thought g and c would have gotten casey out of jail by now with all the money they or making but I dont think they want her out of jail because they don;t know what she will do next. They think she will mess up again. They may not even want her in their house. I am sure no one in the family wants to deal with her and all the lies she is telling. If jb don;t have any cases but casey;s what is he living on? I know lawyers have to do so many cases a year pro bono but they don;t have to do all of them that way.All the def.lawyers and other people just want their name on tv so they can have more cases in the future.jmho

They couldn't get her out of jail if they wanted to. There is no bail on Capital Murder.

[AlohaRainbow]

Excllent point. Someone who wants to FRAME someone would want the body discovered immediently, not 5-6 months later. Again, we go to REASONABLE doubt.

The fact that someone wanted to frame Casey would require a motive - why would someone want to frame her. Money? She had none. Sex? She more than willingly gave that out for free. Revenge? Granted that there could have been someone who wanted to get even with her, it is NOT REASONABLE that someone would kill Caylee to frame Casey adn then go to all the trouble to distance the body from Casey.

so you don't think invisi-nanny framed casey to "teach her a lesson"?
:w00t:


[me either!]

[Sun]

so you don't think invisi-nanny framed casey to "teach her a lesson"?
:w00t:


[me either!]

I think that it is Casey that is more likely to try to "frame" someone. I recall her telling Amy that George had driven her car. I remember Casey telling someone that Jesse still had a key to her car. I also recall Casey saying that lots of people has had access to her Car (referring to the towyard, or the Anthonys, or LE, or CSI, or FBI) since she last parked it at the Amscot. She is going to try to separate herself from that car and the defense is going to try very, very hard to get all evidence from the car to be thrown out (won't work though, IMO).

[trich]

(the notice that was left on the front door of the Anthony home on July 11th, did identify the towyard) I'm not completely convinced that was the very first time that George may have been to the towyard. If it was, then you are right, George probably didn't have the opportunity at that time, to remove anything from the trunk.

It is interesting to note that the towyard fellow did go back and search for that bag, once he saw the news about Caylee. (LE had already retrieved it though).

I don't think there is anyway to get into a impound yard without going through the office and paying the cost of towing and storing.
Those places are locked up just for that reason....so no one can have access to their vehicles without paying the fees.

[Wildflowers]

Sun, I agree with you. Casey is never ever wrong, she is going to blame someone else for anything and everything that happens in her life. Thats the Narcistic Way. It is always Everyone elses fault. but also Cindy is the same way always blaming the media, LE, or whomjever for doing something that turns it around to be anyone but Them.

JMOO

[need2no]

Mally-Bu! is dog-sitting two cutie-pa-tooties! Should be a nice weekend **I will forever miss you, Caylee Marie**

If they are the Ant's dogs, then maybe G&C are traveling to promote their fundation this weekend. Perhaps an extreme SAR? Their weekend for the boat?

The Ants are losing the limelight, which is not their style. It will be interesting to see what they will come up with next to attract media attention away from current affairs.


I find it suspicious Mallory posted that on her MYSPACE...comes off like a teaser. Either she is dog sitting for the A's and (they) wanted people to know and wonder what the A's are up to, or maybe she is dog sitting 2 dogs but it's totally unrelated to the A's. Obviously she knows the public is looking at her MS and chuckled knowing 'we' would suspect it was the A's dogs she was referring to, whether this is true or not.

However I do think it's almost a given that we will see/hear from the A's with a July 4th related event, possibly involving the rescue boat. :rolleyes:

[desmom]

Do we know what ID she used to cash the checks? tia

She used a D.L. page 4 http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09.03.08_Frau d4.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

She could have got a replacement for $10 http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/replace.html by presenting the car registration, medical or insurance card, auto insurance card, W-2 and her SSN card. http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/address.html#address

jmo

[need2no]

I don't think there is anyway to get into a impound yard without going through the office and paying the cost of towing and storing.
Those places are locked up just for that reason....so no one can have access to their vehicles without paying the fees.

ITA, and many tow yards have vicious guard dogs, surveillance cameras, barbed wire on top of fences, and other kinds of security. Not only do they have to guard against someone retrieving their own car, but car thiefs in general since they are liable for all the cars in their lot.

[Jester]

Came across this while looking into things and found this web site. Was anyone aware of this or is it new? These thieving maggots have got to be stopped. Open for ideas and suggestions.

http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/:cursing:

And it will only cost $25 annually to volunteer your time ...
"EXTREME Search, Rescue and Recovery requires this form
to be completely filled out and verified prior to acceptance.
"$25.00 Annual Membership Fee Required Through PayPal"

I've never heard of having to pay a fee to do unpaid work.

[Sun]

I don't think there is anyway to get into a impound yard without going through the office and paying the cost of towing and storing.
Those places are locked up just for that reason....so no one can have access to their vehicles without paying the fees.

chuckles... you are probably right. However, from the behavior that I've seen out of the Anthonys, I wouldn't doubt that they'd try.

[Jester]

William Waters interview with LE: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825199/Casey-Anthony-William-Waters-Interview

It sounds like he met Casey on July 4 when she went with Amy to his house to decorate for a 4th of July party.

On page 2, they had to go to Total Wine (liquor store, I think) to get a bucket for the keg. They would not sell them one because Casey did not have an ID.**

Casey played hostess at the party by making sure everyone was taken care of and cleaned up after the party.

On July 5, Casey was at his door at 9:30 a.m. and they hung out together. Over lunch Casey told Waters she was getting a place with a friend who also has children so the could split the expense of Caylee's nanny. Later Casey called Will on the way to pick up Tone at the airport. She talked to him all the way up the escalator at the airport.

Casey and Will made several dates, but Casey never showed. His only contact with her after 7/05 was by phone or text messages.

**This is the 2nd time a witness reported Casey did not have an ID. Matt Crisp showed Tone an apartment on June 19. Casey was with him and because she did not have an ID with her, he was not able to show the apartment to her. page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4824071/Casey-Anthony-Matthew-Crisp-interview

jmo

Did Casey have fake ID that she carried, and didn't want to be seen rifling through several pieces with different names? Thinking back to the night of July 16 when the female police officer and Cindy were going through Casey's wallet. Was there something suspicious about the ID then?

[desmom]

And it will only cost $25 annually to volunteer your time ...
"EXTREME Search, Rescue and Recovery requires this form
to be completely filled out and verified prior to acceptance.
"$25.00 Annual Membership Fee Required Through PayPal"

I've never heard of having to pay a fee to do unpaid work.

Jester, neither have I.

So is this a club or a volunteer S & R team? Idjits! jmo

[bchand]

I find it suspicious Mallory posted that on her MYSPACE...comes off like a teaser. Either she is dog sitting for the A's and (they) wanted people to know and wonder what the A's are up to, or maybe she is dog sitting 2 dogs but it's totally unrelated to the A's. Obviously she knows the public is looking at her MS and chuckled knowing 'we' would suspect it was the A's dogs she was referring to, whether this is true or not.

However I do think it's almost a given that we will see/hear from the A's with a July 4th related event, possibly involving the rescue boat. :rolleyes:

I agree, we'll hear about it sooner or later.

By Mallory's postings, I'd say she's as much a drama queen as the rest of them.

She seems to like the attention.

[need2no]

She used a D.L. page 4 http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09.03.08_Frau d4.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

She could have got a replacement for $10 http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/replace.html by presenting the car registration, medical or insurance card, auto insurance card, W-2 and her SSN card. http://www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/address.html#address

jmo



LOL...well we know she didn't present a W-2 to get a replacement license.:biggrin:

[need2no]

I agree, we'll hear about it sooner or later.

By Mallory's postings, I'd say she's as much a drama queen as the rest of them.

She seems to like the attention.


ITA bchand, and they do say :chicken: of a feather flock together. If she isn't smart enough to have high tailed it away from that entire family by now...well, she isn't too smart. That is unless she is sticking around to get material for a book. :smile:

[bchand]

ITA bchand, and they do say :chicken: of a feather flock together. If she isn't smart enough to have high tailed it away from that entire family by now...well, she isn't too smart. That is unless she is sticking around to get material for a book. :smile:

If she's as dumb as this family seems to be, she probably thinks the "celebrity" will rub off on her.

[need2no]

And it will only cost $25 annually to volunteer your time ...
"EXTREME Search, Rescue and Recovery requires this form
to be completely filled out and verified prior to acceptance.
"$25.00 Annual Membership Fee Required Through PayPal"

I've never heard of having to pay a fee to do unpaid work.

This reminds me of all the demands the A's had for a VOLUNTEER personal assistant. Wonder if anyone ever applied. :wink:

The A's and the Milsteads deserve each other, they mix like peanut butter and jelly.

[need2no]

If she's as dumb as this family seems to be, she probably thinks the "celebrity" will rub off on her.

Be careful what you ask for.......

[Jester]

I feel like we are running in circles...........when Lee brought back the stuff kc had left at AL (?) wasn't there more then one id was found. This is just speculation. Could her id have been in AL when he left, so she did not have access to it? Law Enforcement does have that now, right? Does anyone recall what i am typing about?

You're right ... but I don't think details were given about the ID. Maybe it's in the thousands of pages of document release somewhere.

[101Spots]

And it will only cost $25 annually to volunteer your time ...
"EXTREME Search, Rescue and Recovery requires this form
to be completely filled out and verified prior to acceptance.
"$25.00 Annual Membership Fee Required Through PayPal"

I've never heard of having to pay a fee to do unpaid work.

Actually, eXtreme [money-grubbing, pseudo-rescue organization] search and rescue pretty much *stole* the "volunteer/member" application from Texas EquuSearch, almost verbatim. TES, too, asks for $25 membership fee.

TES blurb about becoming a volunteer/member (http://texasequusearch.org/2009/01/become-a-member-of-tes/)

TES Membership application (http://texasequusearch.org//TESForms/TESApplicationpdf.pdf)

I don't think that TES requires the local [usually one-time, or one-event] volunteers to become members. This is more for becoming members and being available to search out of your local area, as well as a way to support TES.

The Milstead's case, I believe it's just a ploy to get money, as they've never searched and probably never will.

[Jester]

Jester, neither have I.

So is this a club or a volunteer S & R team? Idjits! jmo

Sounds like a private club ... no requirement other than forking over $25. If they had said the requirement was to provide proof of no criminal record, that would make more sense.

[desmom]

While looking for the ID thing Lee told LE about, I found this. Lee is telling LE the things he picked up at Tone's.

the laptop, a very large leopard print duffle bag that had all of her clothing and items in there. ..a backpack, a white backpack with kind of a pattern or you know a symbol on that uhm, that also had some more clothing items in there.

Page 7 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/07/anthony.search.warrant.pdf

He also recalled that Caylee was dressed in a blue jean skirt and a pink top. George recalled that Caylee was wearing a pair of sunglasses. The glasses had white trim. Caylee also had a white backpack that displayed a monkey design.

Was Casey using Caylee's white backpack? :scared:

Re the ID bottom of page 22 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

But as my uhm, mother went to take out my sister's identification from that little sleeved, you know that clear sleeve that you can see through, uhm, immediately the officer's hand went in there and grabbed something that was behind that i.d. (identification). It looked to me white like the old style driver's license or learner's permit or something like that.....

jmo

[~layla~]

Isnt Mallorys mother the head of the charity of the Anthonys.. I know the word isnt head of the ... but you know.. the one in the highest position to be in charge (CEO but for charity status)

[Jester]

This reminds me of all the demands the A's had for a VOLUNTEER personal assistant. Wonder if anyone ever applied. :wink:

The A's and the Milsteads deserve each other, they mix like peanut butter and jelly.

I'd forgotten about that. The job description was demanding and a page in length, the remuneration: none. They were already pretending to be celebrities, thinking it should be a privilege to be their servant. I'm sure someone was dumb enough to do it for a short time.

[Jester]

Actually, eXtreme [money-grubbing, pseudo-rescue organization] search and rescue pretty much *stole* the "volunteer/member" application from Texas EquuSearch, almost verbatim. TES, too, asks for $25 membership fee.

TES blurb about becoming a volunteer/member (http://texasequusearch.org/2009/01/become-a-member-of-tes/)

TES Membership application (http://texasequusearch.org//TESForms/TESApplicationpdf.pdf)

I don't think that TES requires the local [usually one-time, or one-event] volunteers to become members. This is more for becoming members and being available to search out of your local area, as well as a way to support TES.

The Milstead's case, I believe it's just a ploy to get money, as they've never searched and probably never will.

Borderline plagiarism? That's bit problematic.

[Jester]

While looking for the ID thing Lee told LE about, I found this. Lee is telling LE the things he picked up at Tone's.

the laptop, a very large leopard print duffle bag that had all of her clothing and items in there. ..a backpack, a white backpack with kind of a pattern or you know a symbol on that uhm, that also had some more clothing items in there.

Page 7 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/07/anthony.search.warrant.pdf

He also recalled that Caylee was dressed in a blue jean skirt and a pink top. George recalled that Caylee was wearing a pair of sunglasses. The glasses had white trim. Caylee also had a white backpack that displayed a monkey design.

Was Casey using Caylee's white backpack? :scared:

Re the ID bottom of page 22 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

But as my uhm, mother went to take out my sister's identification from that little sleeved, you know that clear sleeve that you can see through, uhm, immediately the officer's hand went in there and grabbed something that was behind that i.d. (identification). It looked to me white like the old style driver's license or learner's permit or something like that.....

jmo

Thanks. Maybe we'll hear more about the ID if Casey's fraud charge proceeds.

[101Spots]

Actually, eXtreme [money-grubbing, pseudo-rescue organization] search and rescue pretty much *stole* the "volunteer/member" application from Texas EquuSearch, almost verbatim. TES, too, asks for $25 membership fee.

TES blurb about becoming a volunteer/member (http://texasequusearch.org/2009/01/become-a-member-of-tes/)

TES Membership application (http://texasequusearch.org//TESForms/TESApplicationpdf.pdf)

I don't think that TES requires the local [usually one-time, or one-event] volunteers to become members. This is more for becoming members and being available to search out of your local area, as well as a way to support TES.

The Milstead's case, I believe it's just a ploy to get money, as they've never searched and probably never will.

Sorry to quote myself. Adding the eXtreme search and rescue online membership application for your perusal and comparison. Note the Terms and Conditions at the bottom especially.

eXtreme search & rescue membership application. (http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/membershipform.html)

[101Spots]

Borderline plagiarism? That's bit problematic.

I'm sure it gets put down as "standard language" or some such excuse. The original pdf application for eXtreme S&R might was well have had TES blacked out and ESRR inserted. The online version is ~slightly~ different.

[Sun]

While looking for the ID thing Lee told LE about, I found this. Lee is telling LE the things he picked up at Tone's.

the laptop, a very large leopard print duffle bag that had all of her clothing and items in there. ..a backpack, a white backpack with kind of a pattern or you know a symbol on that uhm, that also had some more clothing items in there.

Page 7 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/07/anthony.search.warrant.pdf

He also recalled that Caylee was dressed in a blue jean skirt and a pink top. George recalled that Caylee was wearing a pair of sunglasses. The glasses had white trim. Caylee also had a white backpack that displayed a monkey design.

Was Casey using Caylee's white backpack? :scared:

Re the ID bottom of page 22 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

But as my uhm, mother went to take out my sister's identification from that little sleeved, you know that clear sleeve that you can see through, uhm, immediately the officer's hand went in there and grabbed something that was behind that i.d. (identification). It looked to me white like the old style driver's license or learner's permit or something like that.....

jmo

I'm trying to visualize Cindy with the wallet in her hands, and an officer's hand snatching anything out of that wallet. LOL

[101Spots]

I'm trying to visualize Cindy with the wallet in her hands, and an officer's hand snatching anything out of that wallet. LOL

Do we know if the officer still has two hands?

[Sun]

Do we know if the officer still has two hands?

I've yet to figure out just which officer it was. LOL

[sunstar]

Casey dropped Tone and Cameron off at the airport and headed for Amy, Ricardo and JP's and stayed until Tone returned.

I did a little reading about the school Tone was attending. IMO, it is an accelerated program. Last year, Tone was probably looking at graduating soon. Tone had said he would return to NY after graduation. Was Casey planning (hoping, praying) Tone would pop the question? Remember this: page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

What was her back-up plan or should I say who was her back-up plan? Will? Mark Hawkins?

jmo
Hi! :seeya: I've always wondered if any of her friends ever really questioned why she was staying with them and not at home or is it that common for young people to hop around from one friends place to anothers for days at a time?

[sunstar]

While looking for the ID thing Lee told LE about, I found this. Lee is telling LE the things he picked up at Tone's.

the laptop, a very large leopard print duffle bag that had all of her clothing and items in there. ..a backpack, a white backpack with kind of a pattern or you know a symbol on that uhm, that also had some more clothing items in there.

Page 7 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/08/07/anthony.search.warrant.pdf

He also recalled that Caylee was dressed in a blue jean skirt and a pink top. George recalled that Caylee was wearing a pair of sunglasses. The glasses had white trim. Caylee also had a white backpack that displayed a monkey design.

Was Casey using Caylee's white backpack? :scared:

(snipped for space)

jmo

It surely couldn't be the same backpack, could it? Wouldn't LE have caught onto the similarity of the description and wanted to see it? And if it matched, how would anyone explain where Caylee was then (back when Casey said ZFG had her)? :scared:

[BJames]

Good afternoon to all :smile:

I have always thought that any 'extra' key that Casey would carry would be kept in her pocket if she had to leave the car running for the A/C and leave the doors locked...in case someone tried to take the vehicle with Caylee still in it.
One thing I thought a bit odd going back over some stuff..
The fact of Casey running out of gas two Fridays' in a row...the last one being at Amscot? I thought Amscot was closer to her parent's place and apparently TonE picked her up around 11:30 am...but she didn't ask him for gas cans and was carrying frozen food? Casey must have known her parents weren't home because that is where she was coming from with the food...otherwise why not try calling George to bring her some gas..or even Lee?
Of course Cindy probably thought that Casey was in Jacksonville...
In the US if a cell phone is being used out of state...does the caller identity show up as long distance? Or maybe has a different long distance ring? Or would you not be able to tell if someone was calling from next door or the next state over?
Thanks to anyone who knows....


Just my opinion of course...

[shelkobe]

Are the Milsteads going to look for missing fish during the July 4th festivities?

[martha]

They couldn't get her out of jail if they wanted to. There is no bail on Capital Murder. Oh I am ao sorry I did not know that. I am not very smart and don;t know anything about the law. I am glad tho that she can not get out. I don;t like saying things like that because it makes me feel like I am judgening her but there is no one elce that we have seen that would have a reason to kill Caylee. I will just have to ask for forgiveness for what I think and type. It just seemed like all casey wants is for someone or her mother and daddy to get her out of jail if she can;t be bonded out that is fine with me.jmho

[shelkobe]

**snip**
In the US if a cell phone is being used out of state...does the caller identity show up as long distance? Or maybe has a different long distance ring? Or would you not be able to tell if someone was calling from next door or the next state over?
Thanks to anyone who knows....

Just my opinion of course...
Good afternoon to you, too.

On your cell phone question, no, the person being called has no idea where the caller is located. The phone number comes up the same on the Caller ID.

[5boxersmom]

Oh I am ao sorry I did not know that. I am not very smart and don;t know anything about the law. I am glad tho that she can not get out. I don;t like saying things like that because it makes me feel like I am judgening her but there is no one elce that we have seen that would have a reason to kill Caylee. I will just have to ask for forgiveness for what I think and type. It just seemed like all casey wants is for someone or her mother and daddy to get her out of jail if she can;t be bonded out that is fine with me.jmho

Hi everyone.

Marth this is twice now I have seen you post that you are not very smart. I do not think that is true. I have seen your posts and I think you are very intelligent. Alot of us do not know alot about the law. Thank god we have Kat and Lapis.:biggrin:

I think you have a heart of gold.

I too am glad she can not be bonded out. :thumbup:

jmo

[desmom]

It surely couldn't be the same backpack, could it? Wouldn't LE have caught onto the similarity of the description and wanted to see it? And if it matched, how would anyone explain where Caylee was then (back when Casey said ZFG had her)? :scared:

Cindy gave the bag to LE...imo.

On 6/20 *Moonrider* posted items turned over to LE by Cindy. Here is a link to the post: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13209507&highlight=yellow#post13209507

*Moonrider*'s post:

I think the yellow tied garbage bags will play a major role in this case. This photo was taken on 7/25.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...hotos039-1.jpg

Video of GA taking out garbage on 8/8 with yellow ties.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17132420/index.html

And last but not least Cindy herself provided a black garbage bag with yellow ties to LE (thanks Des)
Page 2 - http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

On July 16, 2008......Detective Beasley provided me with the following pieces of evidence:

Black plastic bag containing inside:
• Doll (Art #3, Item H-51975)
• Backpack (Art #4, Item H-51975)
• Childs tooth brush (Article #5, Item H-51975)
• Black leather bag (Article #6, Item H-51975)
• Various papers (Article #7, Item H-51975)
• Dinner knife (Article #8, Item H-51975)
• Blue plastic crate (Article #9, Item H-51975)
• Plastic clothes hangers (Article #10, Item H-51975)

[cassidy]

I find it suspicious Mallory posted that on her MYSPACE...comes off like a teaser. Either she is dog sitting for the A's and (they) wanted people to know and wonder what the A's are up to, or maybe she is dog sitting 2 dogs but it's totally unrelated to the A's. Obviously she knows the public is looking at her MS and chuckled knowing 'we' would suspect it was the A's dogs she was referring to, whether this is true or not.

However I do think it's almost a given that we will see/hear from the A's with a July 4th related event, possibly involving the rescue boat. :rolleyes:

Not suspicious at all, merely typical Anthy-related behavior. If Mally-Bu didn't want her MySpace viewed, she'd take it private. She hasn't done that. She is just another attention seeker in a huge cast of attention seekers.

JMO

[BJames]

Hi! :seeya: I've always wondered if any of her friends ever really questioned why she was staying with them and not at home or is it that common for young people to hop around from one friends place to anothers for days at a time?

We have 3 kids in their 20's, it isn't 'unusual' for a couple of their friends to stay over on a Friday or Saturday...sometimes both depending on what they have planned.
The difference might be that we live in the country, so folks don't tend to just 'drop by' for an hour :wink: I also know the 'kids' that come and I probably have known them and their parents since grade school, anyone 'new' would warrant a face to face handshake introduction...it's actually quite comical at times.
During the week tho everyone has classes and/or work...not a lot of 'down time'...any 'spare' time is taken up with jobs, studying, sports...

Just my opinion of course..

[gaelicpeas]

Cindy gave the bag to LE...imo.

On 6/20 *Moonrider* posted items turned over to LE by Cindy. Here is a link to the post: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13209507&highlight=yellow#post13209507

*Moonrider*'s post:

I think the yellow tied garbage bags will play a major role in this case. This photo was taken on 7/25.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...hotos039-1.jpg

Video of GA taking out garbage on 8/8 with yellow ties.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17132420/index.html

And last but not least Cindy herself provided a black garbage bag with yellow ties to LE (thanks Des)
Page 2 - http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

On July 16, 2008......Detective Beasley provided me with the following pieces of evidence:

Black plastic bag containing inside:
• Doll (Art #3, Item H-51975)
• Backpack (Art #4, Item H-51975)
• Childs tooth brush (Article #5, Item H-51975)
• Black leather bag (Article #6, Item H-51975)
• Various papers (Article #7, Item H-51975)
• Dinner knife (Article #8, Item H-51975)
• Blue plastic crate (Article #9, Item H-51975)
• Plastic clothes hangers (Article #10, Item H-51975)If I read the forensic document right (the one that came out with the autopsy report), the bag Cindy gave to LE with this stuff in it has the same characteristics as one of the bags with Caylee's remains. Also, the black bag found in the A's cooler in their garage during one of the search warrant also has the same characteristics as the bags with the remains. These are key pieces of evidence, IMO.

[AnniePie]

I agree, we'll hear about it sooner or later.

By Mallory's postings, I'd say she's as much a drama queen as the rest of them.

She seems to like the attention.

Again I ask: How do these people find each other?! :scared:

[sunstar]

Cindy gave the bag to LE...imo.

On 6/20 *Moonrider* posted items turned over to LE by Cindy. Here is a link to the post: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13209507&highlight=yellow#post13209507

*Moonrider*'s post:

I think the yellow tied garbage bags will play a major role in this case. This photo was taken on 7/25.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...hotos039-1.jpg

Video of GA taking out garbage on 8/8 with yellow ties.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17132420/index.html

And last but not least Cindy herself provided a black garbage bag with yellow ties to LE (thanks Des)
Page 2 - http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

On July 16, 2008......Detective Beasley provided me with the following pieces of evidence:

Black plastic bag containing inside:
• Doll (Art #3, Item H-51975)
• Backpack (Art #4, Item H-51975)
• Childs tooth brush (Article #5, Item H-51975)
• Black leather bag (Article #6, Item H-51975)
• Various papers (Article #7, Item H-51975)
• Dinner knife (Article #8, Item H-51975)
• Blue plastic crate (Article #9, Item H-51975)
• Plastic clothes hangers (Article #10, Item H-51975)

Thanks so much ~ I really was getting confused there for a moment! :wub:

[Jester]

I'm trying to visualize Cindy with the wallet in her hands, and an officer's hand snatching anything out of that wallet. LOL
Would have liked to have seen Cindy's face when that happened! Imagining her stuffing Casey's money into her pocket has always struck me as odd as well. Personally, if I had a child that stole money from me, and I found $200 cash in their possession (assuming I would snoop, which I don't), I would put the money on the table and ask the child to talk with me. We would sort out a repayment plan. I would never hurriedly stuff it in my pocket like a thief.

[sunstar]

We have 3 kids in their 20's, it isn't 'unusual' for a couple of their friends to stay over on a Friday or Saturday...sometimes both depending on what they have planned.
The difference might be that we live in the country, so folks don't tend to just 'drop by' for an hour :wink: I also know the 'kids' that come and I probably have known them and their parents since grade school, anyone 'new' would warrant a face to face handshake introduction...it's actually quite comical at times.
During the week tho everyone has classes and/or work...not a lot of 'down time'...any 'spare' time is taken up with jobs, studying, sports...

Just my opinion of course..
I certainly can understand it since you're out in the country but I've never heard of (until this case) so much hopping around between different friends' places, borrowing of vehicles and whatnot. :scared: I was just curious how normal it is! MOO

[cassidy]

Again I ask: How do these people find each other?! :scared:


Water seeks it own level?

:shrug:

[martha]

Hi everyone.

Marth this is twice now I have seen you post that you are not very smart. I do not think that is true. I have seen your posts and I think you are very intelligent. Alot of us do not know alot about the law. Thank god we have Kat and Lapis.:biggrin:

I think you have a heart of gold.

I too am glad she can not be bonded out. :thumbup:

jmoThank you sweet one, I am thankful for Kat and Lapis too. I love reading all the post on here it helps me a lot to understand why things or done like they or. I keep hearing casey say everything has been taken away from her that tells me she does not even think of Caylee. Smeone took everything from Caylee.31 days and a mother that did not tell anyone she was gone. I am so glad I don;t know any mothers like that. jmho

[Sandy001]

I think that it is Casey that is more likely to try to "frame" someone. I recall her telling Amy that George had driven her car. I remember Casey telling someone that Jesse still had a key to her car. I also recall Casey saying that lots of people has had access to her Car (referring to the towyard, or the Anthonys, or LE, or CSI, or FBI) since she last parked it at the Amscot. She is going to try to separate herself from that car and the defense is going to try very, very hard to get all evidence from the car to be thrown out (won't work though, IMO). There's just too much evidence about that car to get it all thrown out. He may get the dogs tossed, but hwo does he get by Cindy ("a nurse of decomposition") and George who made it abundantly clear in his interviews that he knows that smell very well from his being a cop, and LE who also smelled that smell. I also believe they used two SEPARATE dogs who alerted on the car. One dog may get tossed, but two - I don't think so. There's also no evidence of any break-in to that car which supports the tie between Casey and the car . I do NOT believe that Jesse ever had a key to this car. I don't think Cindy and George would have allowed a key to go to anyone. Jesse probably had his own car anyway.

[Sandy001]

I certainly can understand it since you're out in the country but I've never heard of (until this case) so much hopping around between different friends' places, borrowing of vehicles and whatnot. :scared: I was just curious how normal it is! MOOI think it is relatively common with young people who have bad relationships with their parents - I remember taking guardianship of a teen who couldn't get along with his parents. I eventually had to relinquish it because he wouldn't go to school. Kids who have relatively good relationships with their parents don't hop around as much.

[Dovey]

Sorry for not posting more and to all the wonderful posters here especially the night timers.
Since I went to the duct tape festival, I've been having bad dreams about duct tape and Caylee. At the same time the reports of Caylee's autopsy report came out. I'll get back real soon as I miss ya all. By the way I'm posting from either OH or MI.

I just haven't been able to get the imagine of little Caylee's little face, duct taped and her mother doing that. It is haunting to me that any mother could do that to their child.

[5boxersmom]

Thank you sweet one, I am thankful for Kat and Lapis too. I love reading all the post on here it helps me a lot to understand why things or done like they or. I keep hearing casey say everything has been taken away from her that tells me she does not even think of Caylee. Smeone took everything from Caylee.31 days and a mother that did not tell anyone she was gone. I am so glad I don;t know any mothers like that. jmho

Me too Martha. Between Casey and Cindy I have never in my life heard so many me me me's. And so many of them while little Caylee was "missing". I would have been a nutcase, not thinking about myself.

jmo

[bchand]

Sorry to quote myself. Adding the eXtreme search and rescue online membership application for your perusal and comparison. Note the Terms and Conditions at the bottom especially.

eXtreme search & rescue membership application. (http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/membershipform.html)

Amazingly similar to TES's application except they can't even plagiarize without a spelling error. "Membership is a privilage"

[martha]

I certainly can understand it since you're out in the country but I've never heard of (until this case) so much hopping around between different friends' places, borrowing of vehicles and whatnot. :scared: I was just curious how normal it is! MOO Most of the young people I know like to come to your house but when it gets bed time they want to go home where their stuff is. Everyone has cars now and they don;t stay the night like they did when I was younger. I would have wondered about casey tho always having her cloths and wanting to stay all night. If she ever stole one thing from me then she would never be back in my house. I really think she liked staying with her boyfriends best. not other girls. I think Caylee was getting to where she could tell c and g what casey was doing and that was getting in casey way.jmho

[BJames]

Good afternoon to you, too.

On your cell phone question, no, the person being called has no idea where the caller is located. The phone number comes up the same on the Caller ID.

Thanks Shelkobe...

So Cindy was left to believe Casey was wherever she told her she was...when you get your cell bill..does it tell you where the call(s) were made/recieved from?
Say I called you right now...when you get your bill would it show that I am calling from Canada?
Or...If you call my # back in return...would it say a call was made to Canada...or just my phone number?
I hope that makes sense...:wink:

[sunstar]

I think it is relatively common with young people who have bad relationships with their parents - I remember taking guardianship of a teen who couldn't get along with his parents. I eventually had to relinquish it because he wouldn't go to school. Kids who have relatively good relationships with their parents don't hop around as much.

I appreciate your reply! :smile: Casey was probably telling them all kinds of things for sympathy why she couldn't go home. MOO

[Sandy001]

I'm trying to visualize Cindy with the wallet in her hands, and an officer's hand snatching anything out of that wallet. LOL
I can see the $$ in her eyes. lol

[Dovey]

I'm waiting like Pru (maggots report), for what LE took from Cindy that was in Casey's purse. Was it a fake ID for ZFG? We have never seen or heard of it.

Yea my 500 post.
And still wearing my pink dress...

[desmom]

There's just too much evidence about that car to get it all thrown out. He may get the dogs tossed, but hwo does he get by Cindy ("a nurse of decomposition") and George who made it abundantly clear in his interviews that he knows that smell very well from his being a cop, and LE who also smelled that smell. I also believe they used two SEPARATE dogs who alerted on the car. One dog may get tossed, but two - I don't think so. There's also no evidence of any break-in to that car which supports the tie between Casey and the car . I do NOT believe that Jesse ever had a key to this car. I don't think Cindy and George would have allowed a key to go to anyone. Jesse probably had his own car anyway.

Piggy backing off your post...

Question: Cindy said LE used 2 cadaver dogs because 1 hit inconsistently. Is that in any of the doc dumps? Are there any reports about the cadaver dogs search of the A's property? TIA

I found the one for the car - K-9 report on the car page 198 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

[sunstar]

Most of the young people I know like to come to your house but when it gets bed time they want to go home where their stuff is. Everyone has cars now and they don;t stay the night like they did when I was younger. I would have wondered about casey tho always having her cloths and wanting to stay all night. If she ever stole one thing from me then she would never be back in my house. I really think she liked staying with her boyfriends best. not other girls. I think Caylee was getting to where she could tell c and g what casey was doing and that was getting in casey way.jmho

Oh I definitely agree Caylee was becoming a big liability to what Casey wanted to do. :sad: MOO

[Sandy001]

Amazingly similar to TES's application except they can't even plagiarize without a spelling error. "Membership is a privilage"


OMG, you have to PAY for the privilege? More ways to make money. Have they ever searched for ANYONE at all?

[5boxersmom]

Most of the young people I know like to come to your house but when it gets bed time they want to go home where their stuff is. Everyone has cars now and they don;t stay the night like they did when I was younger. I would have wondered about casey tho always having her cloths and wanting to stay all night. If she ever stole one thing from me then she would never be back in my house. I really think she liked staying with her boyfriends best. not other girls. I think Caylee was getting to where she could tell c and g what casey was doing and that was getting in casey way.jmho

My house was always the one that all the kids came to also. Sometimes a few would spend the night. They would stay up all night playing video games. I am in a rural area.

I think Casey and them may have also been partying and that is why they stayed all night.

jmo

[martha]

Me too Martha. Between Casey and Cindy I have never in my life heard so many me me me's. And so many of them while little Caylee was "missing". I would have been a nutcase, not thinking about myself.

jmo
ITA with you the mothers I know would have not waited 5 min to tell the whole world that their baby was missing.From the very start it has been about c and c and g and lee. I don;t see how they can forget little Caylee so quick. jmho

[AnniePie]

Amazingly similar to TES's application except they can't even plagiarize without a spelling error. "Membership is a privilage"

Pathetic. It was probably Michelle Bart who wrote it. That woman couldn't spell her way out of a paper bag. :bored:

[Sandy001]

My house was always the one that all the kids came to also. Sometimes a few would spend the night. They would stay up all night playing video games. I am in a rural area.

I think Casey and them may have also been partying and that is why they stayed all night.

jmo Yet there is NOTHING to indicate that any of this would go on at the Anthony house. This tells me that the A hosue was off limits to Casey's friends.

[5boxersmom]

OMG, you have to PAY for the privilege? More ways to make money. Have they ever searched for ANYONE at all?

I would like to know why they never took the boat out when the teenager was missing in the lake in Orlando. Of course that was the same time George and Cindy were doing media rounds.

jmo

[bchand]

Mallory must be like the As if she is still with Lee after that CMA, CMA ordeal. He is disgusting. She will be sorry.

I think we could total up the IQs of this entire bunch and they wouldn't get into Mensa.

[101Spots]

Amazingly similar to TES's application except they can't even plagiarize without a spelling error. "Membership is a privilage"

First class, eh?

NOT

[5boxersmom]

Yet there is NOTHING to indicate that any of this would go on at the Anthony house. This tells me that the A hosue was off limits to Casey's friends.

Oh yeah. I do not think the Anthony house was like mine. Casey stayed at Ricardos, Amy's, Annie's and Tony's. Wonder where else?
jmo

[Sandy001]

I would like to know why they never took the boat out when the teenager was missing in the lake in Orlando. Of course that was the same time George and Cindy were media rounds.

jmo Could Milstead have been on a fishing trip? I don't think they EVER intend to search for ANYONE. That boat is just another toy for th em.

[bchand]

OMG, you have to PAY for the privilege? More ways to make money. Have they ever searched for ANYONE at all?

Well did you see upthread that Mallory is "dog sitting" this weekend? Maybe they're all out on a search. (HA)

[5boxersmom]

In case anyone has not seen this, I am posting the link for Lee's deleted MySpace pages - even though from 2006 - it is still well, frankly, creepy mcCreepster to read...Bear with his observaions - he does so wax poetic - right before he broke it off with TARA - yes...THAT Tara...skip to page 2 of the document and see what happens when you break up with Lee...

NO ONE puts Baby (Lee) in a corner!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5395527/Lee-Anthony-Myspace-Blogging

This shows the REAL Lee imo....I'm just sayin'... :glare:

That is so strange and immature. Here he is in the middle of a bad break up and he mentions OSU is better then Michigan. :rolleyes: That is something a 10 year old would say.

jmo

[desmom]

Re K-9 at the Anthony's

Summary of a detective's report about his activities on 7/17: The officer had met with Mr. Burner, the Anthony's neighbor, and collected the shovel. He then went to the Anthony's and searched their backyard. He noted a small depression in the yard and George also thought it looked suspicious. The detective contacted Sgt Allen and learned Sgt Allen was coordinating the response of the cadaver dog and Crime Scene Unit to the property.

page 236 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

At approximately 1900 hours, other units began arriving at the residence to include: Sgt. John Allen, CSI Geraldo Bloise, CSI Mike Vincent, K9 Corp. Mike Carden and two other K9 handlers, Commander Matthew Irwin, Detective Dave Clark and Detective Kevin Kraubetz. The investigation was turned over to the K9 Units and the Crime Scene Investigators. I left the residence at approximately 2023 hours.

[5boxersmom]

I read somewhere that Cindy did not want Casey to date or even associate with "hispanics" - her word - boy did that ever backfire, huh? Wonder why her rule did not extend to Casey's choice of lawyers? She only got the biggest Hispanic douchebag ever to trill his R's...

That's why no Ricardo, or any other ethnic boys ever went to Casey's house...remember when Tony was begging her to let him come over and she kept putting him off...because she knew AND acknowledged that her parents would kill her...

Sweet Heysoos - she is 22 and she can't even SNEAK out of the house for a tryst? I could slip out my window at night to meet a boyfriend when I was 15 without waking my folks...easy...I'm just sayin'...

Yep KioMarie said that. I don't think she was allowed in the house. I think she said George was okay with her.

jmo

[5boxersmom]

...it is JUST like Casey, who is in jail for murdering her daughter and after she views the news carrying the story - SHE mentions OSU football to the jailer...I guess talkin' up football cures all ills in that family...Freaks...

Oh I forgot about that. You are so right. What is up with that? Football? Obsessed much? Geez.

jmo

[BJames]

I did read Lee's deleted MySpace entries...does anyone else think it is somewhat odd? Again...we have 2 boys 25 and 27, and they are very computer savy and both have social networking connections.
I am trying to imagine either of them posting something so 'personal' for everyone to read...and such public disrespect for a girl that was good enough to date at least. And it almost reads like he is accepting some award and giving acknowledgments to those whom have been a 'part' of it...family by name...friends..saying he is sorry to anyone he left out.
It sounded like a wounded 12 year old boy to me, who might have thought no one would ever know it was him writing that stuff...both Lee and Casey have interesting emotional maturity to me.

Just my opinion of course...

[shelkobe]

Thanks Shelkobe...

So Cindy was left to believe Casey was wherever she told her she was...when you get your cell bill..does it tell you where the call(s) were made/recieved from?
Say I called you right now...when you get your bill would it show that I am calling from Canada?
Or...If you call my # back in return...would it say a call was made to Canada...or just my phone number?
I hope that makes sense...:wink:
It makes sense. I'm on Verizon Wireless so my bill will only show the number, not the location of where a cell call originated. I'm assuming acquiring that information is a little more involved than what a typical phone company wants to do on a phone bill for a customer, but the police can get the information on which towers a cell phone pinged. You could call me from Canada or England but only your cell phone number shows up on the bill.

ETA: That's how Scott Peterson was able to fool his girlfriend Amber Frey into thinking he was in France with friends Francois and... other name escapes me, because only his cell phone number showed up on Amber's bill and phone.

[bchand]

I did read Lee's deleted MySpace entries...does anyone else think it is somewhat odd? Again...we have 2 boys 25 and 27, and they are very computer savy and both have social networking connections.
I am trying to imagine either of them posting something so 'personal' for everyone to read...and such public disrespect for a girl that was good enough to date at least. And it almost reads like he is accepting some award and giving acknowledgments to those whom have been a 'part' of it...family by name...friends..saying he is sorry to anyone he left out.
It sounded like a wounded 12 year old boy to me, who might have thought no one would ever know it was him writing that stuff...both Lee and Casey have interesting emotional maturity to me.

Just my opinion of course...

Actually he sounded more like a girl to me.

[5boxersmom]

Actually he sounded more like a girl to me.

Never mentioned Caylee did he? You would think that sweet little smile would help you get through a tough time. Oh well maybe she was one of the ones he forgot to mention. :rolleyes:

jmo

[BJames]

Yep KioMarie said that. I don't think she was allowed in the house. I think she said George was okay with her.

jmo

I guess I don't 'get it' 5boxersmom...is it 'common' for a mother to dictate who her daughter can be friends with in her teens and twenties?
We haven't come across that...I have always liked our kid's friends...parents sometimes not so much, but we certainly didn't deny any friendships. After 25 or so years some fell away but most others have been here forever...actually the majority...girls and guys.
Maybe we're strange?

[5boxersmom]

I guess I don't 'get it' 5boxersmom...is it 'common' for a mother to dictate who her daughter can be friends with in her teens and twenties?
We haven't come across that...I have always liked our kid's friends...parents sometimes not so much, but we certainly didn't deny any friendships. After 25 or so years some fell away but most others have been here forever...actually the majority...girls and guys.
Maybe we're strange?

No you are normal. Denying them to be friends with someone just makes them want to be friends with them. I am sure it backfired on Cindy many times.

jmo

[desmom]

page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715615/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_002_JANUARY_21_09

Orange County Sheriff's Office
Forensics Section
Report of Crime Scene Investigation

Marker #1: This marker indicates the area where the soil was disturbed. This area was located on the east side of the residence behind the swimming pool. I took measurements of the disturbed soil area. The measurement was 12" in width and 5" in depth.

After photographing marker #1 this investigator, ASL Michael Vincent and Sgt. John Allen decided that the area should be checked by K-9 (cadaver dog). D/S Json Forgery arrived at the residence with his K-9. The K-9 checked the backyard area. After checking the backyard, D/S Forgery informed us that his K-9 paid special interest to the playground area and surrounding area near the play house.

Marker #2: Playground description: Located in the backyard on the north side of the residence. The play ground area consisted of a plastic play house. Underneath the play house there were twenty five pieces of square concrete. The concrete square area was 6' x 6'. This area was marked as area #2. D/S Forgery informed us that he will contact the Deputy from Osceola County K-9 Unit in order to confirm his findings.

The Osceola County Deputy, along with her K-9 Cadaver dog arrived on scene to conduct a second search. After checking the area the Osceola Deputy informed us that her dog had shown interest in three areas in the backyard. The first one was the gruond that was checked by OCSO dog (Marker #2) near the play house. The second one was the portion of the ground located near the screened patio porch located on the south side of the residence. This area was marked as Marker #3. The third area was the portion of the ground located on the east side of the play ground area. This area was marked as Marker #4.

[sunstar]

Never mentioned Caylee did he? You would think that sweet little smile would help you get through a tough time. Oh well maybe she was one of the ones he forgot to mention. :rolleyes:

jmo

Seems odd, doesn't it, since she "taught him how to live". :biggrin: MOO

[BJames]

It makes sense. I'm on Verizon Wireless so my bill will only show the number, not the location of where a cell call originated. I'm assuming acquiring that information is a little more involved than what a typical phone company wants to do on a phone bill for a customer, but the police can get the information on which towers a cell phone pinged. You could call me from Canada or England but only your cell phone number shows up on the bill.

ETA: That's how Scott Peterson was able to fool his girlfriend Amber Frey into thinking he was in France with friends Francois and... other name escapes me, because only his cell phone number showed up on Amber's bill and phone.

Thanks again Shelboke...yes, now I recall the famous call from France...too funny in the long run. He and Casey would make a good reality television program...behind bars of course :wink:
I dig it I guess...I have never thought when one of my friends or family members have called that they might be in a different country, I tend to go with what they tell me.
I understand the cell pings...but that confirmation can't be gotten (except by LE) for some time, so basically if Cindy had no other reason at the time to disbelieve Casey..she thought she was in Jacksonville.
Actually at that rate?
Heck Casey could have gone to PR I guess and if Casey said Jacksonville to her on her phone...Cindy would have believed that as well.
Sooo much available to the criminal minds these days...but the same technology can also put them behind bars ...tricky :smile:

Thanks for all of your answers...

[Cinsd]

Piggy backing off your post...

Question: Cindy said LE used 2 cadaver dogs because 1 hit inconsistently. Is that in any of the doc dumps? Are there any reports about the cadaver dogs search of the A's property? TIA

I found the one for the car - K-9 report on the car page 198 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

Hi des

from your link upthread pg 6

snipped:
And last but not least Cindy herself provided a black garbage bag with yellow ties to LE (thanks Des)
Page 2 - http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

catching up

[5boxersmom]

I have an uncle who has mixed grandchildren - but he is so racist and ignorant that he doesn't have anything to do with them...and they are HIS blood!

They are beautiful children who do not understand why their grandfather wants nothing to do with them...he doesn't even buy them X-mas gifts!

SHEESH

That is sad. Both of my grandmothers loved their grand children and great grandchildren. They didn't care where they came from or how they got here. :biggrin: Born out of wedlock or born to a young mother. They both stood up and loved them babies. Wish everyone could be like them.

Also wanted to say both of my grandpa's passed away young. Didn't want anyone to think they didn't love any of us. :biggrin:

jmo

[onlykaty]

Is the speculation still that the defense is going to try the
"someone else killed Caylee" and is framing Casey?
The reason I ask is my mind started wandering while having a walk this morning ....I live in a rural area and we have dead animals from time to time along the edge of the woods and as I walked I smelled first and saw last a dead raccoon (I think it was) and of course I thought about poor Caylee.
And started to think.....if someone else killed Caylee and wanted to blame it on Casey why would they even take the body out of the trunk.
Why not leave it there.
Why take a chance that someone might see if they dumped it
in the woods where she was found?
Would it not be more convincing if the "remains" were still in the trunk
when the car was towed and the Anthony's got it.
The man from the impound yard was there when the trunk was opened so we know that George or Cindy did not take the remains and hide it.
Although I would not have put it past them to do that had they been alone when they opened the trunk and found her.
I mean why would anyone think someone else put the body in the trunk and then went to the trouble of removing it .....doesn't make any kind of sense to me.....the only person who needed to hide/throw away the
remains is Casey.IMO

That and the 31 days would be enough for guilty verdict IMO.

No kidding, as I have posted here before as soon as I heard the 31 days without reporting, I knew something was rotten in Denmark.

[desmom]

Hey Desmom! So glad you are here...maybe you can help me clarify something in the docs somewhere...in talking about Casey's (multiple) ID's (isn't the legal drinking age in FL 18 - why does she need a fake ID if not to get into the bars?) -

(I think Cindy references this story in her wild eyed gum smacking Depo...I mean, really, wtf) Remember when Casey stated that she was following behind The Nanny in her car but that she got into a wreck and she was going to the ER to be with Zanny in her time of need? Why did she say that? - it is easy to check and see that there was no such woman, no such accident, no such ER, not on that day, in fact, not EVER? But this was the excuse she gave someone about why she was even following her in the first place!! This is the same person who just weeks before had pushed her down and taken her child to teach her a lesson? GIVE US A BREAK...even if this WAS the Nanny - why in the world wouldn't the Dipstick ask her "WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAUGHTER!!!" Her web is too tangled for me, I guess...

The same question as to why Casey told LE that she had even spoken to Caylee on her cell phone earlier in the day of July 15? But all she said was, "can you put an adult on the phone?" (My head spins like the possessed Linda Blair in the Exorcist - all I need now is to vomit green pea soup!) And then she says that the phone had been cut off - WHAT????????? So, the incoming call from Caylee came from a cell phone that morning - but now that phone is out of service when she tried to call back later the SAME DAY?

--snipped--

I don't remember anything in the doc dumps about LE finding multiple IDs for Casey. I don't consider it odd if she did have a DL and a state issued ID card.

Zanny had a wreck and Caylee called stories...IMO, no one has ever called Casey on her "stories" in the past and I believe she thought LE would buy her stories just like everyone else did. How dare them! :tonguewag:

jmo

[Postergeist]

ITA with you the mothers I know would have not waited 5 min to tell the whole world that their baby was missing.From the very start it has been about c and c and g and lee. I don;t see how they can forget little Caylee so quick. jmho

agree-

darn my luck, my first time getting online and my dad calls and I've got to do an errand for him...

it's probably been discusses already, but seeing all the makeshift memorials going up around the country and the world for MJ this weekend- I'm sure it crossed the minds of many here like it did me-

the Anthonys would be wanting to yank down every one of those if it related to their granddaughter. :sad:

imo

(hope to be back on later- I've missed reading what everyone has to say)

[Dovey]

It makes sense. I'm on Verizon Wireless so my bill will only show the number, not the location of where a cell call originated. I'm assuming acquiring that information is a little more involved than what a typical phone company wants to do on a phone bill for a customer, but the police can get the information on which towers a cell phone pinged. You could call me from Canada or England but only your cell phone number shows up on the bill.

ETA: That's how Scott Peterson was able to fool his girlfriend Amber Frey into thinking he was in France with friends Francois and... other name escapes me, because only his cell phone number showed up on Amber's bill and phone.


That is strange as I also have Verizon and my bill is detailed and shows the outgoing location and the incoming location. I've had Verizon for upteen years and the bill has always been the same.

[Dovey]

I have an uncle who has mixed grandchildren - but he is so racist and ignorant that he doesn't have anything to do with them...and they are HIS blood!

They are beautiful children who do not understand why their grandfather wants nothing to do with them...he doesn't even buy them X-mas gifts!

SHEESH

I have many bi racial nephews and nieces and we love them all. They are all children of God. Back, Hispanic's, Costa Rican, it doesn't matter, all that matters is we love them all.

[101Spots]

I would like to know why they never took the boat out when the teenager was missing in the lake in Orlando. Of course that was the same time George and Cindy were doing media rounds.

jmo

Because that would mean getting it <gasp> wet?? :shrug:

[Pruddennce]

In case anyone has not seen this, I am posting the link for Lee's deleted MySpace pages - even though from 2006 - it is still well, frankly, creepy mcCreepster to read...Bear with his observaions - he does so wax poetic - right before he broke it off with TARA - yes...THAT Tara...skip to page 2 of the document and see what happens when you break up with Lee...

NO ONE puts Baby (Lee) in a corner!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5395527/Lee-Anthony-Myspace-Blogging

This shows the REAL Lee imo....I'm just sayin'... :glare:

thank you...I remember reading his blogs.....ugh

MORE UGH:

the same Lee telling THIS HUGE LIE that Casey was working as an event coordinator FOR A COMPANY HE CANNOT DISCLOSE<--*what*????? she was taking vacation, she was spending time with Caylee...*dont these people coordinate their trashy lies?

....bear in mind, this is August 5th..in less than 24 hours LE confirmed THRU CASEY, she DID NOT HAVE A JOB.....and she ADMITTED IT.

but here we have Lee A LYING to the public on her behalf. (the interview gives me a headache)......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9yjoIjG7UY&feature=related

and here we have Lee telling the media THEY KNOW WHO THE FATHER IS but they are not going to tell the family of the deceased father because, get this: 'they dont want THEM going thru what we are going thru*

*he didnt have any knowledge* <------the father of caylee didnt know he was a father? yet Casey said he had a trust fund for Caylee (family services interview)

http://vodpod.com/watch/1079575-casey-anthony-brother-interview

if you are up for a headache.....
IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[shelkobe]

That is strange as I also have Verizon and my bill is detailed and shows the outgoing location and the incoming location. I've had Verizon for upteen years and the bill has always been the same.
Verizon Wireless?

[Deannalynn]

What if the ID was in ZG name? Isn't she is the one who got a speeding ticket that mysteriously got paid for a ZG one block from where Casey withdrew money - that moments later shows up as payment for court fine? Hope this makes sense...it's hard to keep up with her fantasies...lol

I had my ID from the state of California when I moved out here to Nebraska. I went to the DMV to get my pic taken and my NE drivers license. They insisted I had to give them my California State ID before they would issue me my NE license. I don't understand that cause they have all your new information in the computer when they stop you for something.
They say you can only carry one authorized ID.

I don't think Casey had another name on the ID that LE took from her. What I do think is it may have been her expired ID. We surely would have heard or read it if she was carrying another ID with another name.
Casey pretended to be who she wanted to be without needing another ID. An employee of Universal studios, her mother and Amy.
I'm sure all these acquaintances are really disliking her right now.
I bet after many discussions they are not the least shocked that she killed her baby girl. :glare:

[101Spots]

I had my ID from the state of California when I moved out here to Nebraska. I went to the DMV to get my pic taken and my NE drivers license. They insisted I had to give them my California State ID before they would issue me my NE license. I don't understand that cause they have all your new information in the computer when they stop you for something.
They say you can only carry one authorized ID.

I don't think Casey had another name on the ID that LE took from her. What I do think is it may have been her expired ID. We surely would have heard or read it if she was carrying another ID with another name.
Casey pretended to be who she wanted to be without needing another ID. An employee of Universal studios, her mother and Amy.
I'm sure all these acquaintances are really disliking her right now.
I bet after many discussions they are not the least shocked that she killed her baby girl. :glare:

Back in the day, to buy booze in PA you had to carry a PA Liquor Control Board ID. To get a PLCB card, you had to present a US Passport, a birth certificate, *and* a driver's license. Not one of the above - all three of the above. PA is not about to part with their booze easily. Or so they thought.

These days, PA gives you back your old driver's license when you get a new one, but they cut off one corner.

[Diney]

Amazingly similar to TES's application except they can't even plagiarize without a spelling error. "Membership is a privilage"


Actually there are several errors. That kind of thing drives me nuts, especially in a supposedly professional document.

[MiamiNice1]

Hey Desmom! So glad you are here...maybe you can help me clarify something in the docs somewhere...in talking about Casey's (multiple) ID's (isn't the legal drinking age in FL 18 - why does she need a fake ID if not to get into the bars?) -

<snipped to address>



Drinking age in Florida is 21. :)

http://orlando.about.com/od/family/f/drinkage.htm

[seeing_eye]

And it will only cost $25 annually to volunteer your time ...
"EXTREME Search, Rescue and Recovery requires this form
to be completely filled out and verified prior to acceptance.
"$25.00 Annual Membership Fee Required Through PayPal"

I've never heard of having to pay a fee to do unpaid work.

Well, yeah -- but you can make it all back and more by recruiting other people to become volunteers as per this that I found on their website (I did not correct their misspelled words or other errors):

"As a Member of ESRR/KFN you are asked to help by recuiting new members monthly throughout the United States. This will allow us to continue to grow and obtain new and much needed equipment and supplies for our searches. Every existing member that recruits a new member will receive, as a thank you, a $10, Visa gift card."

I wonder what they mean by saying "recruiting new members monthly?" Do you suppose they have a quota requiring all members to recruit a certain number of new members each month?

[seeing_eye]

This reminds me of all the demands the A's had for a VOLUNTEER personal assistant. Wonder if anyone ever applied. :wink:

The A's and the Milsteads deserve each other, they mix like peanut butter and jelly.

The following is what they had on the Caylee Anthony Myspace page:

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - 407-403-3564 cell - georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee. com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-5132 cell - LeeAAnthony@gmail.com

[onlykaty]

I sent them an E-mail.....let's see if they respond


My Wife and I are interested in helping out in the area with local Search teams. There have been so many missing children, that we can no longer sit by and do nothing.

I have been to your website and see that you are actively involved with The Grandparents of Caylee Anthony. And we would like to help.

After perusing your website we were about to sign up, when we noticed that you require a $25.00 payment for a "membership".

I guess my first question is why do I have to pay to help find missing people? I don't mind paying my way, but I cannot fathom why we would want to pay your company in order to help your company.

I am a trained Medic and my wife is a a trained Scuba Diver, both fresh and saltwater. We feel that we have a lot to offer any team we decide to join, but your ethics are a little troubling to both of us.

Please let me know the reasoning behind this

Thank you
My name re-dacted (of Course)


Awesome, I'm anxious to read the reply if u get one..

[need2no]

The following is what they had on the Caylee Anthony Myspace page:

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - 407-403-3564 cell - georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee. com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-5132 cell - LeeAAnthony@gmail.com

THANK YOU for posting this! Re-reading it I am just as appalled as I was the first time I read it.

Has anyone ever seen this type of advertising for volunteers in a missing person case....I haven't. While I can certainly appreciate the need for individuals to help out with these tasks, I would think that most people would have friends or family members willing to fulfill these roles. Also seems like these things could be done by that great organization KFN since they weren't doing much of anything else.

Of course if you are estranged from family, and have no friends.......

[AMS]

Well, yeah -- but you can make it all back and more by recruiting other people to become volunteers as per this that I found on their website (I did not correct their misspelled words or other errors):

"As a Member of ESRR/KFN you are asked to help by recuiting new members monthly throughout the United States. This will allow us to continue to grow and obtain new and much needed equipment and supplies for our searches. Every existing member that recruits a new member will receive, as a thank you, a $10, Visa gift card."

I wonder what they mean by saying "recruiting new members monthly?" Do you suppose they have a quota requiring all members to recruit a certain number of new members each month?


Geez, it sounds like a cult to me :angry:

imo

[bchand]

Geez, it sounds like a cult to me :angry:

imo

Sounds similar to a pyramid scheme too.

[bchand]

Actually there are several errors. That kind of thing drives me nuts, especially in a supposedly professional document.

But it's typical of the stuff that kidfinders puts out. They took it almost word for word from TES but they still managed the spelling errors. lol

[seeing_eye]

But it's typical of the stuff that kidfinders puts out. They took it almost word for word from TES but they still managed the spelling errors. lol

If they copy form another site, how can they have these errors? I don't understand how they do it. Don't they have spell checkers on their computers? Don't they know how to use one?

[desmom]

What if the ID was in ZG name? Isn't she is the one who got a speeding ticket that mysteriously got paid for a ZG one block from where Casey withdrew money - that moments later shows up as payment for court fine? Hope this makes sense...it's hard to keep up with her fantasies...lol

IMO, when Casey gave LE the ZFG name, LE pulled up every ZG and/or ZFG in the state of FL. This would have included driver's licenses.

IF Casey had a D.L. in ZG or ZFG's name or any combination of ZFG, it would have been easy to spot since the DLs include a picture of the driver.

[apothecary]

I was listening to Cindys first phone call to 911 and noticed that when the operator asked her when the car was stolen she said June 30.She had already spoken to someone about having Casey arrested and they said to go home and call from there and that the officer would go to the house.Maybe she had already discussed the car theft then but when the operator asked when it was stolen she did not hesitate.Most people are often not sure the exact day a car is stolen,especially if they have not had it for a while.Cindy did know it was towed from Amscott that day,but why did she pick that day as the day to say it was stolen.She could have picked June 27 when Casey abandonned it at Amscott.I wonder why she picked June30.....My computer is so slow I can't listen to the second call to see if I learn more.It is way too choppy.It is rainy and cloudy outside.

[desmom]

Did I miss something? Casey had AT&T. How does Verizon Wireless bills figure into this mess? TIA

[desmom]

I was listening to Cindys first phone call to 911 and noticed that when the operator asked her when the car was stolen she said June 30.She had already spoken to someone about having Casey arrested and they said to go home and call from there and that the officer would go to the house.Maybe she had already discussed the car theft then but when the operator asked when it was stolen she did not hesitate.Most people are often not sure the exact day a car is stolen,especially if they have not had it for a while.Cindy did know it was towed from Amscott that day,but why did she pick that day as the day to say it was stolen.She could have picked June 27 when Casey abandonned it at Amscott.I wonder why she picked June30.....My computer is so slow I can't listen to the second call to see if I learn more.It is way too choppy.It is rainy and cloudy outside.

Good catch Apothecary! :beer:

Hmm, something else to add to the Does Not Make Sense column of this mess.

ETA ~ links to the transcripts for the 911 calls

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/transcript_of_third_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.ht ml

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/24/transcript_of_first_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.ht ml

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/24/transcript_of_second_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.h tml

[Sandy001]

I guess I don't 'get it' 5boxersmom...is it 'common' for a mother to dictate who her daughter can be friends with in her teens and twenties?
We haven't come across that...I have always liked our kid's friends...parents sometimes not so much, but we certainly didn't deny any friendships. After 25 or so years some fell away but most others have been here forever...actually the majority...girls and guys.
Maybe we're strange?
I do not think it is uncommon for a parent to state a preference. My neice deliberately got engaged to a minority to upset her father. It worked. She was not forbidden but then, Cindy seems more controlling than any mother I have ever run into (and I have met some real doozies.)

[Sandy001]

I sent them an E-mail.....let's see if they respond


My Wife and I are interested in helping out in the area with local Search teams. There have been so many missing children, that we can no longer sit by and do nothing.

I have been to your website and see that you are actively involved with The Grandparents of Caylee Anthony. And we would like to help.

After perusing your website we were about to sign up, when we noticed that you require a $25.00 payment for a "membership".

I guess my first question is why do I have to pay to help find missing people? I don't mind paying my way, but I cannot fathom why we would want to pay your company in order to help your company.

I am a trained Medic and my wife is a a trained Scuba Diver, both fresh and saltwater. We feel that we have a lot to offer any team we decide to join, but your ethics are a little troubling to both of us.

Please let me know the reasoning behind this

Thank you
My name re-dacted (of Course)

Great letter. Their real motive (I'm guessing) is to line their pockets. There are many many people who would not HESITATE to help find a missing child, but I know of NONE who would pay for that "privilage."

I have friends who are part of SAR wiwth the local county, one a diver, one an untrained person. Neither had to pay to become part of the organization. ALSO NOTE: they merely have to get themselves to a pre-arranged location and transportation from that point is provided to them by SAR. Isn't that what TES does, also?

Wanted $25 to register with KFN does not prove anything about the volunteer other than they can afford to pay the money. No legitimate organization charges their volunteers to volunteer that I am aware of.

How do you spell SCAM? - KIDFINDERS moo

[Sandy001]

I had my ID from the state of California when I moved out here to Nebraska. I went to the DMV to get my pic taken and my NE drivers license. They insisted I had to give them my California State ID before they would issue me my NE license. I don't understand that cause they have all your new information in the computer when they stop you for something.
They say you can only carry one authorized ID.

I don't think Casey had another name on the ID that LE took from her. What I do think is it may have been her expired ID. We surely would have heard or read it if she was carrying another ID with another name.
Casey pretended to be who she wanted to be without needing another ID. An employee of Universal studios, her mother and Amy.
I'm sure all these acquaintances are really disliking her right now.
I bet after many discussions they are not the least shocked that she killed her baby girl. :glare:

It depends on the state. When I left CA, the new state confiscated my CDL. When I returned, CA just punched a hole in my other state's driver's license.

[AnnieBell]

While going over some of the interviews LE took in the beginning of all of this I came across some conflicting things Cindy said/did July 15.
Cindy calls AH to "basically wondering where casey and Caylee are" and briefly explained some of the situation. Cindy sounded very concerned, told AH if she didn't find casey she(casey) would end up in jail. When Cindy picks AH up at mall she tells AH about the smell in the car, car seat was in the car, didn't know how casey was getting around. Cindy says they(G&C) have found out about a lot of things. Cindy is very concerned something bad may have happened to Caylee b/c they hadn't talked to her in a month. Cindy then tells AH that casey is an unfit mother and if it goes on much longer she would sue for custody(duh) Cindy tells AH about busting casey in the lie of saying she was in Jacksonville, when Cindy found the photo of casey wrapped up in the flag.(Cindy had sent Lee out on 7/3 to find casey) Apparently Cindy had confronted casey with the photo when she shoved it in casey's face and said "you're working?)

AH tells LE it was kinda weird(the ride with Cindy to get casey) b/c it sounded like she had sorta reported it but it was like a tentative report-like she was reporting that maybe something was wrong but Cindy had to call to confirm that it was(what?***) Cindy tells AH she wasn't even sure casey had a job.

Next. 7/16 Cindy went to B.S. house to let her know that Caylee was missing and felt that casey was hiding something. B.S. tells LE she observed casey's car sitting with the trunk open and G&C were milling around the area, later on saw LE responding. Cindy told B.S that caseys stuff was missing from her room but none of Caylee's. Cindy said this had been going on all month but never saw any thing of Caylee's being taken. Cindy also told B.S. that during the last month when casey would come home to get more stuff she was also stealing money from them. I can see why cry baby and psycho want to shout out their murdering crazy spawn is such a great mother.:cursing:

Sorry if any of this isn't making sense but I wanted to get some of this out to all you night crew posters. I've been going through documents looking into Cindy's guilt. I don't have to tell you my brain is fried,smoking,burnt,shut down. Keep me posted about the email sent to the latest a***nine criminal adventure by the Milsteads.

[apothecary]

Good catch Apothecary! :beer:

Hmm, something else to add to the Does Not Make Sense column of this mess.

ETA ~ links to the transcripts for the 911 calls

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/25/transcript_of_third_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.ht ml

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/24/transcript_of_first_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.ht ml

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/7/24/transcript_of_second_911_call_from_cindy_anthony.h tml

Thanx Desmom,that was the site I was at.They also have an extensive timeline and there is one day that I can not confirm.It is July 12...It says that the Anthonys confronted Casey after they had not seen Caylee for some time and convinced her to go to the sheriff's office.I do remember seeing it somewhere else but can not confirm it.That is why I have been reviewing the videos.I think I will have to revisit the cell messages,because if it is true,those Anthonys were worried enough to confront their daughter before Jul15

[AnniePie]

I guess I don't 'get it' 5boxersmom...is it 'common' for a mother to dictate who her daughter can be friends with in her teens and twenties?
We haven't come across that...I have always liked our kid's friends...parents sometimes not so much, but we certainly didn't deny any friendships. After 25 or so years some fell away but most others have been here forever...actually the majority...girls and guys.
Maybe we're strange?

I don't think you're strange, but I do think you're very lucky. My sons have all had friends over the years that I've told them I don't want them hanging out with. These were kids who were into drugs and different things that I didn't agree with.

[apothecary]

I am doing the same as you are doing,reviewing videos and next transcripts to put things together yet again.I did mention yesterday that C.and G.looked under the playhouse because I was sure I read that somewhere.I have been looking for proof that they did so and have run across other interesting information.The playhouse sat on square pavers on a spot that measured 6ft x 6ft.I guess that there was no space underneath the playhouse to hide a body,unless it has its own floor and there is a gap.Thanks for all your help Desmom.We love you.

[AnniePie]

The following is what they had on the Caylee Anthony Myspace page:

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - 407-403-3564 cell - georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee. com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-5132 cell - LeeAAnthony@gmail.com

OMH This is the first time I've seen this! It's hysterical.

They want people who are just about perfect in every field, they want them to be on call 24 hours a day and they don't plan to pay a cent. How do you spell that again? Oh yes, it's e-n-t-i-t-l-e-m-e-n-t.

I just cannot believe the unmitigated gall of these people. :drool:

[desmom]

I am doing the same as you are doing,reviewing videos and next transcripts to put things together yet again.I did mention yesterday that C.and G.looked under the playhouse because I was sure I read that somewhere.I have been looking for proof that they did so and have run across other interesting information.The playhouse sat on square pavers on a spot that measured 6ft x 6ft.I guess that there was no space underneath the playhouse to hide a body,unless it has its own floor and there is a gap.Thanks for all your help Desmom.We love you.

I saw it when I was looking for the K-9 info.

page 236 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

[CelticDawn]

I sent them an E-mail.....let's see if they respond


My Wife and I are interested in helping out in the area with local Search teams. There have been so many missing children, that we can no longer sit by and do nothing.

I have been to your website and see that you are actively involved with The Grandparents of Caylee Anthony. And we would like to help.

After perusing your website we were about to sign up, when we noticed that you require a $25.00 payment for a "membership".

I guess my first question is why do I have to pay to help find missing people? I don't mind paying my way, but I cannot fathom why we would want to pay your company in order to help your company.

I am a trained Medic and my wife is a a trained Scuba Diver, both fresh and saltwater. We feel that we have a lot to offer any team we decide to join, but your ethics are a little troubling to both of us.

Please let me know the reasoning behind this

Thank you
My name re-dacted (of Course)

IF you get an answer i betcha it will go something like this:

"We require a fee in order to become a member because WE HAVE TO RUN BACKGROUND CHECKS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSISTING WITH ANY SERVICE INVOLVING MISSING CHILDREN FOR LEGAL AND LIABILITY PURPOSES"


At which time I would ask
well HOW pray tell did you pass your OWN background requirements?????????

[AnniePie]

I sent them an E-mail.....let's see if they respond


My Wife and I are interested in helping out in the area with local Search teams. There have been so many missing children, that we can no longer sit by and do nothing.

I have been to your website and see that you are actively involved with The Grandparents of Caylee Anthony. And we would like to help.

After perusing your website we were about to sign up, when we noticed that you require a $25.00 payment for a "membership".

I guess my first question is why do I have to pay to help find missing people? I don't mind paying my way, but I cannot fathom why we would want to pay your company in order to help your company.

I am a trained Medic and my wife is a a trained Scuba Diver, both fresh and saltwater. We feel that we have a lot to offer any team we decide to join, but your ethics are a little troubling to both of us.

Please let me know the reasoning behind this

Thank you
My name re-dacted (of Course)

I love it! I can just see the scent of money making them salivate when they read your email.

Cindy: "Hey George, we got a couple of hot ones on the line here!"

George: "Sweet. Another 500,000 of these and we'll never have to work again. You write up a response Cindy, cuz you know I can't spell."

Cindy: "I can't spell either, George. Let's get Michelle Bart to do it. She spells real good."

:rolleyes:

[adair]

Something I thought that I would share...............

I was driving down the highway, and their was a car in front me. Apparently some poor animal had been hit, and i am guessing that it has been there for hours (?).....I did not mean to hit it, but i had no choice. I heard it thump (yuck...sorry for the details). So I finish my trip, get out at my destination, and i do not smell anything. I get home, 45 mile round trip and what is the first smell to greet me when I open my driverside door? That dead/decaying animal smell. This was several hours ago. Its in the high 80's ... temp wise. I was surprised that i smelled it all........I just went out by my car, and i cannot detect that horrific smell.

I hope no one is eating dinner.

jmo

[seeing_eye]

OMH This is the first time I've seen this! It's hysterical.

They want people who are just about perfect in every field, they want them to be on call 24 hours a day and they don't plan to pay a cent. How do you spell that again? Oh yes, it's e-n-t-i-t-l-e-m-e-n-t.

I just cannot believe the unmitigated gall of these people. :drool:

And note especially this requirement by Lee (My bolding):

"This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position."

[gaelicpeas]

I was listening to Cindys first phone call to 911 and noticed that when the operator asked her when the car was stolen she said June 30.She had already spoken to someone about having Casey arrested and they said to go home and call from there and that the officer would go to the house.Maybe she had already discussed the car theft then but when the operator asked when it was stolen she did not hesitate.Most people are often not sure the exact day a car is stolen,especially if they have not had it for a while.Cindy did know it was towed from Amscott that day,but why did she pick that day as the day to say it was stolen.She could have picked June 27 when Casey abandonned it at Amscott.I wonder why she picked June30.....My computer is so slow I can't listen to the second call to see if I learn more.It is way too choppy.It is rainy and cloudy outside.Very good catch, apothecary. As I have always stated, this has been a scam from day 1. JMO.

[101Spots]

Something I thought that I would share...............

I was driving down the highway, and their was a car in front me. Apparently some poor animal had been hit, and i am guessing that it has been there for hours (?).....I did not mean to hit it, but i had no choice. I heard it thump (yuck...sorry for the details). So I finish my trip, get out at my destination, and i do not smell anything. I get home, 45 mile round trip and what is the first smell to greet me when I open my driverside door? That dead/decaying animal smell. This was several hours ago. Its in the high 80's ... temp wise. I was surprised that i smelled it all........I just went out by my car, and i cannot detect that horrific smell.

I hope no one is eating dinner.

jmo

Hey! Thanks for sharing that!

I can offer to give you the details of my recent colonoscopy in return, if you'd like. Just say the word....

In the country, we get that smell all the time. Yucky, huh?

[naurine]

The following is what they had on the Caylee Anthony Myspace page:

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - 407-403-3564 cell - georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee. com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-5132 cell - LeeAAnthony@gmail.com


Think how the A's have evolved-if they posted this today they would not mention there was no compensation - rather, they would say YOU will pay US $100 (or whatever) per day for the pleasure of breathing the same air we breathe.

[bchand]

Think how the A's have evolved-if they posted this today they would not mention there was no compensation - rather, they would say YOU will pay US $100 (or whatever) per day for the pleasure of breathing the same air we breathe.

lol good one.

[Dovey]

Verizon Wireless?

Correct Verizon Wireless
Don't you get the detailed statement?

[bchand]

If they copy form another site, how can they have these errors? I don't understand how they do it. Don't they have spell checkers on their computers? Don't they know how to use one?

Apparently not seeing_eye OR they never did get those perfect personal assts they were advertising for.

[need2no]

Where on earth do you think those people got the idea someone (a 10) would work for them for free? Or even work for them? They really think they are hot stuff!

Apparently they are very religious and believe in the biblical verse....
Ask and ye shall receive. :wink:

[Deannalynn]

While going over some of the interviews LE took in the beginning of all of this I came across some conflicting things Cindy said/did July 15.
Cindy calls AH to "basically wondering where casey and Caylee are" and briefly explained some of the situation. Cindy sounded very concerned, told AH if she didn't find casey she(casey) would end up in jail. When Cindy picks AH up at mall she tells AH about the smell in the car, car seat was in the car, didn't know how casey was getting around. Cindy says they(G&C) have found out about a lot of things. Cindy is very concerned something bad may have happened to Caylee b/c they hadn't talked to her in a month. Cindy then tells AH that casey is an unfit mother and if it goes on much longer she would sue for custody(duh) Cindy tells AH about busting casey in the lie of saying she was in Jacksonville, when Cindy found the photo of casey wrapped up in the flag.(Cindy had sent Lee out on 7/3 to find casey) Apparently Cindy had confronted casey with the photo when she shoved it in casey's face and said "you're working?)

AH tells LE it was kinda weird(the ride with Cindy to get casey) b/c it sounded like she had sorta reported it but it was like a tentative report-like she was reporting that maybe something was wrong but Cindy had to call to confirm that it was(what?***) Cindy tells AH she wasn't even sure casey had a job.

Next. 7/16 Cindy went to B.S. house to let her know that Caylee was missing and felt that casey was hiding something. B.S. tells LE she observed casey's car sitting with the trunk open and G&C were milling around the area, later on saw LE responding. Cindy told B.S that caseys stuff was missing from her room but none of Caylee's. Cindy said this had been going on all month but never saw any thing of Caylee's being taken. Cindy also told B.S. that during the last month when casey would come home to get more stuff she was also stealing money from them. I can see why cry baby and psycho want to shout out their murdering crazy spawn is such a great mother.:cursing:

Sorry if any of this isn't making sense but I wanted to get some of this out to all you night crew posters. I've been going through documents looking into Cindy's guilt. I don't have to tell you my brain is fried,smoking,burnt,shut down. Keep me posted about the email sent to the latest a***nine criminal adventure by the Milsteads.

This is exactly why Casey never brought any of her friends/acquaintances around Cindy and George. Cindy would get annoyed at Casey and do a "tell all" to her friends. This must have been the first time Cindy had a chance to talk to any of Casey's girlfriends. Amy of all people. I bet Amy's mouth was dropping after listening to Cindy and everything she shared with her.

Thanks for posting your concerns AnnieBelle...
Sometimes people do things just to have something to b**** about or complain about. Why the he&& did she leave money lying around the house knowing Casey was nothing but a thief?
Stupid is as stupid does, they say.:sneaky:

[Deannalynn]

Where on earth do you think those people got the idea someone (a 10) would work for them for free? Or even work for them? They really think they are hot stuff!

Looking at ALL the job duties leave nothing for George or Lee to do but sit on their butts and brag about how they are involved helping the organization.
I agree with a lot of you posters. Charging you $25 buck to boot to "join" the organization for you to work with them free as a volunteer.

I think I'll put an add in the paper tomorrow.

Volunteers of America, inc.
Housekeeper wanted: Clean and scrub floors twice a week. Dust, vacuum, do laundry, cook dinner every night. Must have valid Drivers license for grocery shopping and travel to the cleaners. Must know how to clean a pool and counsel family pet. Background check required.
Fee $50.00.:lol:
Knuckleheads!!

[101Spots]

Looking at ALL the job duties leave nothing for George or Lee to do but sit on their butts and brag about how they are involved helping the organization.
I agree with a lot of you posters. Charging you $25 buck to boot to "join" the organization for you to work with them free as a volunteer.

I think I'll put an add in the paper tomorrow.

Volunteers of America, inc.
Housekeeper wanted: Clean and scrub floors twice a week. Dust, vacuum, do laundry, cook dinner everynight. Must have valid Drivers license for grocery shopping and travel to the cleaners. Must know how to clean a pool and counsel family pet. Background check required.
Fee $50.00.:lol:

Let me know if that works. I'd be *very* interested to hear the results.

[101Spots]

Spots - Don't put your housekeeper ad in the Orlando paper - people will think it is from Cindy. I bet they never got one call from a sane person on their personal asst ads - They are so disgusting.

Nah. I'm going to let Deannalynn do it first and see what happens. Also I'm no where near Orlando. I'll just get the hillbilly housekeepers. :biggrin: Hope they know what flush toilets are.........

[need2no]

This is exactly why Casey never brought any of her friends/acquaintances around Cindy and George. Cindy would get annoyed at Casey and do a "tell all" to her friends. This must have been the first time Cindy had a chance to talk to any of Casey's girlfriends. Amy of all people. I bet Amy's mouth was dropping after listening to Cindy and everything she shared with her.

Thanks for posting your concerns AnnieBelle...
Sometimes people do things just to have something to b**** about or complain about. Why the he&& did she leave money lying around the house knowing Casey was nothing but a thief?
Stupid is as stupid does, they say.:sneaky:

So many WHYS in this case....enough to make ya batty.

Why did casey tell LE she hasn't seen Caylee since June 9th, but on the 911 call she stated she hadn't seen her in 31 days.
June 9th to July 15 is 37 days.

Why did Cindy tell the 911 operator she last saw Caylee on (SATURDAY) June 7th. Then at some point Cindy changes the date to June 9th. June 9, 2008 which was a Monday and 4 days after her 50th birthday and the day Cindy returned to work after a week of vacation. How could she confuse that date with Father's Day.

Then there is Shirley Plesea's statement saying casey did not show up with Caylee for a visit, so Cindy didn't go on her planned vacation to her in-laws house. Did Cindy really see Caylee the week of June 2-8?

Then George later states he saw casey and Caylee leaving at 12:50 on June 16th. On the Fox interview where George in wearing a suit (stated he had a J-O-B interview), and is holding a Caylee bear, the interviewer stated George fed Caylee breakfast on the 16th at 1:00. Is this what he is going to testify to under oath, regardless of his previous statement to LE?

And this is just the whys of the d*mn date Caylee was last seen, and the tip of iceberg of whys in this strange case. Poor little Caylee.

Where's the looney tunes icon?

[Unleashed]

Looking at ALL the job duties leave nothing for George or Lee to do but sit on their butts and brag about how they are involved helping the organization.
I agree with a lot of you posters. Charging you $25 buck to boot to "join" the organization for you to work with them free as a volunteer.

I think I'll put an add in the paper tomorrow.

Volunteers of America, inc.
Housekeeper wanted: Clean and scrub floors twice a week. Dust, vacuum, do laundry, cook dinner every night. Must have valid Drivers license for grocery shopping and travel to the cleaners. Must know how to clean a pool and counsel family pet. Background check required.
Fee $50.00.:lol:Knuckleheads!!mybold


Isn't that an ad for a wife?

jmo

[Deannalynn]

Spots - Don't put your housekeeper ad in the Orlando paper - people will think it is from Cindy. I bet they never got one call from a sane person on their personal asst ads - They are so disgusting.

This is why George can never hold down a job. He just wants to sit on his butt and get paid for it.
Since Cindy leads him around by the nose and orders him around along with screaming and yelling and calling him names, George would probably treat a woman like a she's an Imbecile if she worked for him. That's when he would show Cindy the man he would like to be towards her.:sneaky:

[apothecary]

Spots - Don't put your housekeeper ad in the Orlando paper - people will think it is from Cindy. I bet they never got one call from a sane person on their personal asst ads - They are so disgusting.
I remember when that ad first came out,I read it and could not believe my eyes.This was quite early in the case and even at this time Cindy thought she was a celebrity and people would flock to be even associated with her and her royal court.I wonder if she got any replies.I guess they felt they did not have to pay anyone,for they did not pay the nanny or anyone else it seems(the PI did not get paid)

[Deannalynn]

mybold


Isn't that an ad for a wife?

jmo

A job for a George.:biggrinjester:

[happygert]

Looking at ALL the job duties leave nothing for George or Lee to do but sit on their butts and brag about how they are involved helping the organization.
I agree with a lot of you posters. Charging you $25 buck to boot to "join" the organization for you to work with them free as a volunteer.

I think I'll put an add in the paper tomorrow.

Volunteers of America, inc.
Housekeeper wanted: Clean and scrub floors twice a week. Dust, vacuum, do laundry, cook dinner every night. Must have valid Drivers license for grocery shopping and travel to the cleaners. Must know how to clean a pool and counsel family pet. Background check required.
Fee $50.00.:lol:
Knuckleheads!!


forgot a few...lol... must open all mail and bring checks immediately to our attention, must be able to bring in sizable donations..

[happygert]

Correct Verizon Wireless
Don't you get the detailed statement?

just reminded me .....wonder what ever happened the the billing from the so called physic that was supposed to have called dc.. remember the calls she made to him was not on her bill......dang when i had verizon everything was on that bill.. they never missed 1 second let alone whole phone calls..

[happygert]

hello anyone here?

[Wildflowers]

Hello :seeya:

[Januarybaby]

Back in the day, to buy booze in PA you had to carry a PA Liquor Control Board ID. To get a PLCB card, you had to present a US Passport, a birth certificate, *and* a driver's license. Not one of the above - all three of the above. PA is not about to part with their booze easily. Or so they thought.

These days, PA gives you back your old driver's license when you get a new one, but they cut off one corner.

Im in PA too but we dont get our corners cut off, we get a hole stamped in the middle. I think the passport, birth certificate and DL were before my time ( I was born in 70). All I show is my DL when I go to the liquor store and my aunt owns a bar and all they ask for is a DL or personal ID with a birthdate on it.

How times change............

[Deannalynn]

Off to bed. 113 here today.

113 woooooooe...
Goodnight Sus2.:scared:

[Pruddennce]

So many WHYS in this case....enough to make ya batty.

Why did casey tell LE she hasn't seen Caylee since June 9th, but on the 911 call she stated she hadn't seen her in 31 days.
June 9th to July 15 is 37 days.

Why did Cindy tell the 911 operator she last saw Caylee on (SATURDAY) June 7th. Then at some point Cindy changes the date to June 9th. June 9, 2008 which was a Monday and 4 days after her 50th birthday and the day Cindy returned to work after a week of vacation. How could she confuse that date with Father's Day.

Then there is Shirley Plesea's statement saying casey did not show up with Caylee for a visit, so Cindy didn't go on her planned vacation to her in-laws house. Did Cindy really see Caylee the week of June 2-8?

Then George later states he saw casey and Caylee leaving at 12:50 on June 16th. On the Fox interview where George in wearing a suit (stated he had a J-O-B interview), and is holding a Caylee bear, the interviewer stated George fed Caylee breakfast on the 16th at 1:00. Is this what he is going to testify to under oath, regardless of his previous statement to LE?

And this is just the whys of the d*mn date Caylee was last seen, and the tip of iceberg of whys in this strange case. Poor little Caylee.

Where's the looney tunes icon?

dont forget JUNE 14th. this is supposedly a 'missing' child case, the first important fact is the DATE. Cindy states:

"SHE HAS BEEN MISSING FROM CASEY SINCE JUNE 14th".

?????

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist

yes, I must link this ad nauseam.....its the one time that Cindy got slammed at the end of this interview for her arrogant disgusting behaviour...and well deserved considering she gives the public yet ANOTHER BOGUS DATE.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Dells]

How long did Casey think Cindy would buy the Caylee is with the Nanny stories? She managed to make it through the July 4 holiday. Caylee's birthday was coming up and IMO, Cindy would not tolerate not seeing Caylee on her birthday.

If the car had not been impounded, how long could Casey have carried on the charade?

jmo

Bolding mine....

Probably not too much longer than she lasted. Casey was living on borrowed time those whole 31 days. She's lucky that Cindy didn't get serious about looking for her and Caylee sooner than she did. Why Cindy didn't look for them any sooner, nobody will probably ever know. I think if Casey's car was not towed, then Cindy would have eventually reported the car stolen in order to find Casey. So at most I think that Casey would have had a few more weeks. Who knows how this whole story would have unfolded then. :shrug:

[velvetbrown]

Hello night shifters! How is everyone tonight?

[AnniePie]

Hello night shifters! How is everyone tonight?

Hey VB!

Annie reporting for Shift Change...

(saluting to the departing day shift)

[Deannalynn]

dont forget JUNE 14th. this is supposedly a 'missing' child case, the first important fact is the DATE. Cindy states:

"SHE HAS BEEN MISSING FROM CASEY SINCE JUNE 14th".

?????

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist

yes, I must link this ad nauseam.....its the one time that Cindy got slammed at the end of this interview for her arrogant disgusting behaviour...and well deserved considering she gives the public yet ANOTHER BOGUS DATE.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Thanks for this link, Pru
I had not seen this before. I guess she told Cindy the "what for."
Cindy seems to think she's the Queen of this charade, dontcha know.
Cindy is something else. When Cindy and George don't want something said or questions being asked of them they like to throw in the Caylee card. I think they are a couple of real phonies.:glare:

[Deannalynn]

Hey VB!

Annie reporting for Shift Change...

(saluting to the departing day shift)

Deannalynn reporting for the graveyard shift.
To the day shift I'll say, na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye.:seeya:
Unless you want to do a double.:thumbsup:

[Deannalynn]

I would like to know why they never took the boat out when the teenager was missing in the lake in Orlando. Of course that was the same time George and Cindy were doing media rounds.

jmo

That would cost them a few bucks in putting gas in that boat. Cindy and George pay for nothing. Of course they expect others to fork over hard earned money to volunteer for the organization. It's okay and expected for them to pull money out.:sneaky:
jmo

[velvetbrown]

Deannalynn reporting for the graveyard shift.
To the day shift I'll say, na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye.:seeya:
Unless you want to do a double.:thumbsup:

Hey Pie, Dlynn...any new news?

[Deannalynn]

Bolding mine....

Probably not too much longer than she lasted. Casey was living on borrowed time those whole 31 days. She's lucky that Cindy didn't get serious about looking for her and Caylee sooner than she did. Why Cindy didn't look for them any sooner, nobody will probably ever know. I think if Casey's car was not towed, then Cindy would have eventually reported the car stolen in order to find Casey. So at most I think that Casey would have had a few more weeks. Who knows how this whole story would have unfolded then. :shrug:

Casey still did not have a plan of action when she ran out of gas and left the car where she did. She was thinking about numerous things, I bet. She leaving her purse and keys in open sight on the front seat tells me she could have possibly wanted someone to think she and Caylee had been physically taken from that car by someone.
JMO

[Deannalynn]

The following is what they had on the Caylee Anthony Myspace page:

Personal Assistant to George Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: Charity office space located near Sand Lake Road and Orange Blossom Trail, Anthony Family Residence at 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando, and also the possibility of working from home.
Purpose: Coordinate daily volunteer efforts at Publix Tent location and Call Center location. Check emails from the public offering to help volunteer, distribute supplies, and/or donate supplies or resources towards the search efforts. Will also be responsible for scheduling volunteers, and to assist in coordinating distribution of supplies to individuals/areas nationally.
Skills/Resources Required: Must have a valid drivers license and a personal cell phone. Ability to take and execute direction given by George Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, Windows-based computer skills to include Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Outlook), Internet Explorer, and email. Ability to lift 50 lbs and work with little to no supervision. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: George Anthony - 407-403-3564 cell - georgehope4937@yahoo.com

Personal Assistant to Lee Anthony
24 hours On-Call DAILY
Locations: TBD, willing to travel within greater Orlando area with the potential for out of state travel.
Purpose: Run errands, schedule meetings, answer emails, update Myspace and HelpFindCaylee. com websites, etc.
Skills/Resources Required: Must own or have regular access to a personal computer, cell phone, and reliable transporation. Must have a valid drivers license. Ability to take and execute direction given by Lee Anthony. Great organizational skills, ability to multi-task, and work with little to no supervision. Knowledge of how to maintain a myspace page, basic html/website design, and other internet based resources such as search engines and news media sites is a must. This is a jack-of-all-trades position that may be cross utilized in all aspects of the search for Caylee as well as any personal need of the Anthony family, as directed by Lee Anthony. There is no compensation for this position.
Whom to Contact: Lee Anthony - 407-808-5132 cell - LeeAAnthony@gmail.com

Dunno if anyone has seen this add George and Cindy put out there but it has been the discussion early this evening.
George and Lee wanting a volunteer to do all their dirty work for free and to bite that off, it was going to cost the volunteer to join their organization. Too funny them Anthony's are.:rolleyes:

We have George's e-mail address. Perhaps we should e-mail him and say we are VERY interested in this position. LOL

[Deannalynn]

Hey Pie, Dlynn...any new news?

I'm about ready to e-mail George and take him up on the "volunteer" job he has an opening for.
In addition, I think I should contribute 25,000 not 25 bucks.
He would probably wet himself.:lol:

[need2no]

dont forget JUNE 14th. this is supposedly a 'missing' child case, the first important fact is the DATE. Cindy states:

"SHE HAS BEEN MISSING FROM CASEY SINCE JUNE 14th".

?????

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist

yes, I must link this ad nauseam.....its the one time that Cindy got slammed at the end of this interview for her arrogant disgusting behaviour...and well deserved considering she gives the public yet ANOTHER BOGUS DATE.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*


Exactly Pru...a MISSING child case and they can't even spit out a definitive date the child was last seen! I had forgotten about this additional date, thanks for the reminder, and post away with this link.. it's my fav 'slap down' video, and the video of Cindy on Greta is my fav 'psycho in action' video. Cindy is running out of shows to display her arrogance, ignorance and psycho babble. :tongueside:

[Deannalynn]

Exactly Pru...a MISSING child case and they can't even spit out a definitive date the child was last seen! I had forgotten about this additional date, thanks for the reminder, and post away with this link.. it's my fav 'slap down' video, and the video of Cindy on Greta is my fav 'psycho in action' video. Cindy is running out of shows to display her arrogance, ignorance and psycho babble. :tongueside:

Where have I been, need2no. I missed the "Psycho" link with Greta, too.
I loved this link. Cindy just keeps making a fool out of herself. She keeps saying you can't mess with the Anthony's cause you won't win. They will.
So far she has done nothing but make them all look like Hillbillies who don't have a brain cell to rub together. (The gift that keeps on giving):laugh:

[AnniePie]

Deannalynn reporting for the graveyard shift.
To the day shift I'll say, na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye.:seeya:
Unless you want to do a double.:thumbsup:

You can definitely do a double, but let us remind you... as in slaving for the Anthony family... you are here out of the goodness of your heart and there is no remuneration for this position. :rolleyes:

[velvetbrown]

The A's definitely need a check-up from the neck up...I hope someone studies these people and write a book...what a case study!

[Deannalynn]

The A's definitely need a check-up from the neck up...I hope someone studies these people and write a book...what a case study!

Cindy talked about taking Caylee away from Casey for being a bad mother and neglecting her. Cindy is very scary herself and Caylee obviously would not have had a chance with her grandmother.
I do believe Cindy loved this baby but she no more knew the proper way of taking care of her emotional needs than Casey did.:crying:
I find it hard to believe that Cindy would have ever gone through with taking Caylee away from Casey. As much as she threatened Casey with it, she was always complaining about being stuck with Caylee 24/7. If she would have been awarded guardianship she would have been 100% responsible for Caylee in child care and school and all the things a mother would do in raising her child. I don't believe Cindy wanted that resposibility. In addition she wouldn't have anything to hang over Casey's head to get her to do what she wanted her to do.
She treated Casey like she was a child up to Caylee disappearing.

[Deannalynn]

omg you guys....my stoopid car ran out of gas on the way in tonight...and then my back left tire blew out....and then my back righty went, too...and then I couldn't find a gas can...so I called someone to take me to buy a gas can - (cause you know, you can always use another gas can...)...also had to take the long route cause my mom has been looking for me all over creation...nibby bi*ch that she is...WTF Mom? I'm a grown *** woman...omg you guys -she has started calling around to my friends, too! ...I hate her because she tries to get all my friends to address HER as MOM - as if...whatevs...I am dreading the Verizon bill like a madwoman - (I don't know how, but I texted like 750 messages and sticking to my allotment of minutes was just too dang hard...I live to text I always say) and I guess I will have to make the rounds of my friends houses and go through their couches scrounging for change AGAIN this month!!! You'd think I'd learn...but I never do...oh, well, that's Livin la Vita Bella - cha cha cha...so if my mom calls any of you, just slam the phone down - WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T TALK TO HER...I don't trust her...so then I had to stop by Target real quick for new bras and panties...I almost forgot the beer, but never fear! ...it was on sale...YES!...then I had to stop by the bank, but I forgot my ID - so I just used one of my friends checks - I'm sure she won't mind...she's in Puerto Rico for 2 weeks anyway...so the PARTY is on her! She'll learn not to trust me soon enough...then I ran past Sawgrass because I forgot I was supposed to be going to work, the damn Nanny was a no-show...so I just left my kid there to figure out which apartment to go to - and then I hightailed it here to work the Graveyard shift...

I sure hope someone clocked in for me - I'd do it for you!!! Anyway...I'm here now....:tonguewag:

It's about time you showed up Casey. I was worried about you cause your mom called and said you stole her car and she found it somewhere near a place, a parking lot ascot or something like that. She said your keys and purse was left on the front seat. She said it smelled like a dam dead body was in it.
Have you seen my check book. I have been looking for it everywhere. Might have misplaced it cause I have been known to sleepwalk.

[AnniePie]

omg you guys....my stoopid car ran out of gas on the way in tonight...and then my back left tire blew out....and then my back righty went, too...and then I couldn't find a gas can...so I called someone to take me to buy a gas can - (cause you know, you can always use another gas can...)...also had to take the long route cause my mom has been looking for me all over creation...nibby bi*ch that she is...WTF Mom? I'm a grown *** woman...omg you guys -she has started calling around to my friends, too! ...I hate her because she tries to get all my friends to address HER as MOM - as if...whatevs...I am dreading the Verizon bill like a madwoman - (I don't know how, but I texted like 750 messages and sticking to my allotment of minutes was just too dang hard...I live to text I always say) and I guess I will have to make the rounds of my friends houses and go through their couches scrounging for change AGAIN this month!!! You'd think I'd learn...but I never do...oh, well, that's Livin la Vita Bella - cha cha cha...so if my mom calls any of you, just slam the phone down - WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T TALK TO HER...I don't trust her...so then I had to stop by Target real quick for new bras and panties...I almost forgot the beer, but never fear! ...it was on sale...YES!...then I had to stop by the bank, but I forgot my ID - so I just used one of my friends checks - I'm sure she won't mind...she's in Puerto Rico for 2 weeks anyway...so the PARTY is on her! She'll learn not to trust me soon enough...then I ran past Sawgrass because I forgot I was supposed to be going to work, the damn Nanny was a no-show...so I just left my kid there to figure out which apartment to go to - and then I hightailed it here to work the Graveyard shift...

I sure hope someone clocked in for me - I'd do it for you!!! Anyway...I'm here now....:tonguewag:

OMH ndy, you made me laugh out loud. I'm not having a good night here, so this was great. Are you still around?

[Deannalynn]

Good evening ndy...
I have been reading a lot of posts from today and a few links I had not seen before.
The one post that really had me going was the want add for the volunteer to work for free for George and another position, same job duties for Lee Anthony. Had you seen this one. I couldn't believe they would have the audacity to charge a perspective employee to work for free for them. (supposedly, non profit organization):sneaky:
Dunno where everyone is. looks like their on board but not sure, ndy.
I did want to discuss these issues a little more and get some feed back. There's a lot of things I read that I had not heard or read before. The link to the phone interview with fox news with Cindy was priceless.:biggrin:

[Deannalynn]

OMH ndy, you made me laugh out loud. I'm not having a good night here, so this was great. Are you still around?

Hi pie. Lousy night? we are so sloooow tonight. There must be a lot we can talk about. I'm sitting here alone with the food network behind me.
seems like after reading 8-9 posts I come across something I had not known. That's a good thing for me.:seeya:

[Deannalynn]

OH COME ON NOW!!!!!! I thought I said to slam the phone down on her...that meddling psychopath...and she says I'M crazy...she was probably sitting there trying to feed my dad a blooming onion and a healthy portion of crow - but he refused to put on his bib...and you know she is the laundry queen - she cannot tolerate messes...picky, picky...Well, I guess I can finally come clean to her about the Penney's card - Lee used it... oh, and about her checkbook...um...I accidentally threw it away in the dumpster at the Amscot...dag...or else Lee has it...tell her she should roll my dad too - I saw where he's been Googling Siberia for rental properties...but you didn't hear that from me!

...As My Stomach Turns...............lol...............HEY DL............:w00t:

Hey NDY...
Glad you made it in tonight. Was expecting you around midnight and you were a no show but I see you had car problems.
Can you digest this employment/non employ/volunteer/non, cause your handing over $$ to George?:confused:
Whats your take on it NDY...

[Deannalynn]

WAVING AT ANNIE - sorry about your night...I AM HERE though...finally...I think Deannalynn clocked me in...lol

Of course I clocked you in. I also poured you a cup of hot coffee and put it on your desk. Boss man thinks you got here at midnight.:lol:

[Deannalynn]

HELLOOOO...
Am I talking to myself? Looks like everyone flew the coup.
I can't keep my eyes open any longer. I might have to go home and get some sleep. Rough night. Went to fusions and partied with mama's wallet.:thumbsup:

[Deannalynn]

Well, DL - at first blush my chin dropped to the floor...honestly...the freakin gall of these people! Jack of all trades for Lee? Cross training? website creation? yard boy? lackey? DOGsitter? really? no kidding...the butcher the baker the candlestick maker? April Fool's?...no ...this is June...Please say that this one is a joke, Scamthony's...no? (OMG OMG OMG) For realsies? I'd HAVE TO MAN A TENT? No kidding? Um....no

Question...How can people be THIS delusional? But hey, remember ol' Jim Hoover just moseyed up to George and say, "hey...I used to be in law enforcement...(George immediatly feels a warm sensation - ah, the brotherhood of civil servants) and I just thought you might need someone to...oh, I don't know, guard? or surveil? or investigate? or bodyguard? ...editor's note (I think that can be used as a verb, to bodyguard...as opposed to an actual human bodyguard in the flesh) LOL...can you imagine?

Oh - they so bring this on themselves...( Hey, prospective jurors...YOOHOO... it's CINDY and GEORGE...um, ANTHONY...yes, us again...we forgot to give you this extremely flammable fodder, a bit of gas from George's can...it has the duck tape on it...and it says Property of George Anthony on it...

oh, silly us, we are so busy with our Scamdation that we almost forgot the most important part... Here's a match...

That's how I feel about it, DL...lol....I'm just sayin' - and I feel an uncontrollable need to vent about them...so hold on...

and I feel descriptive tonight...and I have a captive audience which doesn't hurt....LOL....I sit here and crack myself up as I type...hope you guys are having a good time reading them....I do tend to get on a roll sometimes....and I always LAMOP (laughatmyownpost)...:w00t:

WOW - I was just playing with the editing keys...and this probably looks like it...I just let the muse guide me....

I read this wonderful off the cuff honest engine post of yours ndy.
SO, this is how you really feel? Are you sure, now.
Thank you for being you.
Yes, the Anthony's are intolerable. ALL of them.
I am so angry at Casey for not stepping up to the plate on the truth and what she did to Caylee.
I don't understand how LE let this one get away (sort of speak) but it will be one heck of a trial, that's for sure! Now we are forced to wait til 2010, too.:rolleyes::thumbdown:

[AnnieBell]

Well, DL - at first blush my chin dropped to the floor...honestly...the freakin gall of these people! Jack of all trades for Lee? Cross training? website creation? yard boy? lackey? DOGsitter? really? no kidding...the butcher the baker the candlestick maker? April Fool's?...no ...this is June...Please say that this one is a joke, Scamthony's...no? (OMG OMG OMG) For realsies? I'd HAVE TO MAN A TENT? No kidding? Um....no

Question...How can people be THIS delusional? But hey, remember ol' Jim Hoover just moseyed up to George and say, "hey...I used to be in law enforcement...(George immediatly feels a warm sensation - ah, the brotherhood of civil servants) and I just thought you might need someone to...oh, I don't know, guard? or surveil? or investigate? or bodyguard? ...editor's note (I think that can be used as a verb, to bodyguard...as opposed to an actual human bodyguard in the flesh) LOL...can you imagine?

Oh - they so bring this on themselves...( Hey, prospective jurors...YOOHOO... it's CINDY and GEORGE...um, ANTHONY...yes, us again...we forgot to give you this extremely flammable fodder, a bit of gas from George's can...it has the duck tape on it...and it says Property of George Anthony on it...

oh, silly us, we are so busy with our Scamdation that we almost forgot the most important part... Here's a match...

That's how I feel about it, DL...lol....I'm just sayin' - and I feel an uncontrollable need to vent about them...so hold on...

and I feel descriptive tonight...and I have a captive audience which doesn't hurt....LOL....I sit here and crack myself up as I type...hope you guys are having a good time reading them....I do tend to get on a roll sometimes....and I always LAMOP (laughatmyownpost)...:w00t:

WOW - I was just playing with the editing keys...and this probably looks like it...I just let the muse guide me....

NDY you just keep on rolling!!!! as a daytime poster I get such a kick out of reading all of the night posters comments. Don't worry about your time card, the boss didn't question a thing. Just come on in when ever you feel like it. :biggrin:

[desmom]

New Daily thread.....

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=355488