Thursday, June 25, 2009 #1

[Unleashed]

To heck with the poll.

I want everything released.

And I want it now.


JMO

[kageykaren]

Caylee's paying for her defense.. She's selling everything she can get her hands on..Now isn't that something.. Murder your child then sell everything you can of hers so she can pay for the best known experts..I don't feel KC tapped into her resource of Caylee photos to cover her whole defense as I'm going with someone or an entity that have access to an ever flowing stream of money. I do feel though that when KC realized the amount of money and time used to find Caylee initially is when Caylee became a comodity. Remember her statement in her first jail visit with her parents, she commented on those monies could be used for her bail bond. This was before Lenny rode into town. Also I wanted to share a site where Diane F. gave an interview when she was first asked to write the book by her publishing co. In the interview she admits to not being familar and needing to cram to meet her deadline. This site is Blog Talk Radio with Levi interviewing. First interview was in March and the last was a couple of weeks ago. I'v been in the music business for 30 yrs. and am not feeling alot of sadness with the news Michael has died. I hope his children may have a bit of a more normal life as the years go on. Michaels song played at Caylee's funeral hit me the wrong way due to all his lawsuites regardless of being found innocent. Now we have to spend the next couple of months seeing all the wackos come out of the woodwork to cash in on all things we now know can bring in money.

[Imperfect4]

what a sad day./....rest in peace Farrah and Michael.....:rose::rose:

And one more for Ed McMahon. :rose:

[happygert]

No kidding-- is he dead or alive?

dead........rip.....

[Lavinia]

To heck with the poll.

I want everything released.

And I want it now.


JMO

Same here! :beer: If we're gonna wish...Wish BIG!

[summer]

It is freaky how these things seem to come in threes. :mellow:

[AnniePie]

To heck with the poll.

I want everything released.

And I want it now.


JMO

You forgot to stomp your foot!

And I completely agree. :laugh:

[sammy62]

I don't feel KC tapped into her resource of Caylee photos to cover her whole defense as I'm going with someone or an entity that have access to an ever flowing stream of money. I do feel though that when KC realized the amount of money and time used to find Caylee initially is when Caylee became a comodity. Remember her statement in her first jail visit with her parents, she commented on those monies could be used for her bail bond. This was before Lenny rode into town. Also I wanted to share a site where Diane F. gave an interview when she was first asked to write the book by her publishing co. In the interview she admits to not being familar and needing to cram to meet her deadline. This site is Blog Talk Radio with Levi interviewing. First interview was in March and the last was a couple of weeks ago. I'v been in the music business for 30 yrs. and am not feeling alot of sadness with the news Michael has died. I hope his children may have a bit of a more normal life as the years go on. Michaels song played at Caylee's funeral hit me the wrong way due to all his lawsuites regardless of being found innocent. Now we have to spend the next couple of months seeing all the wackos come out of the woodwork to cash in on all things we now know can bring in money.

gee...are you saying I can't sell my Michael Jackson jigsaw puzzle MIB on Ebay? :tonguewag:

[*Serenity*]

I don't feel KC tapped into her resource of Caylee photos to cover her whole defense as I'm going with someone or an entity that have access to an ever flowing stream of money. I do feel though that when KC realized the amount of money and time used to find Caylee initially is when Caylee became a comodity. Remember her statement in her first jail visit with her parents, she commented on those monies could be used for her bail bond. This was before Lenny rode into town. Also I wanted to share a site where Diane F. gave an interview when she was first asked to write the book by her publishing co. In the interview she admits to not being familar and needing to cram to meet her deadline. This site is Blog Talk Radio with Levi interviewing. First interview was in March and the last was a couple of weeks ago. I'v been in the music business for 30 yrs. and am not feeling alot of sadness with the news Michael has died. I hope his children may have a bit of a more normal life as the years go on. Michaels song played at Caylee's funeral hit me the wrong way due to all his lawsuites regardless of being found innocent. Now we have to spend the next couple of months seeing all the wackos come out of the woodwork to cash in on all things we now know can bring in money.

O/T real real quick here...

My very near and dear best best friend lives in Seattle and her name is Karen-- does the word Joey mean anything to you? If not then you are not her.

[summer]

I don't feel KC tapped into her resource of Caylee photos to cover her whole defense as I'm going with someone or an entity that have access to an ever flowing stream of money. I do feel though that when KC realized the amount of money and time used to find Caylee initially is when Caylee became a comodity. Remember her statement in her first jail visit with her parents, she commented on those monies could be used for her bail bond. This was before Lenny rode into town. Also I wanted to share a site where Diane F. gave an interview when she was first asked to write the book by her publishing co. In the interview she admits to not being familar and needing to cram to meet her deadline. This site is Blog Talk Radio with Levi interviewing. First interview was in March and the last was a couple of weeks ago. I'v been in the music business for 30 yrs. and am not feeling alot of sadness with the news Michael has died. I hope his children may have a bit of a more normal life as the years go on. Michaels song played at Caylee's funeral hit me the wrong way due to all his lawsuites regardless of being found innocent. Now we have to spend the next couple of months seeing all the wackos come out of the woodwork to cash in on all things we now know can bring in money.

So yeah, the book might have *new* info for the general public but I don't think anyone who's studied this case will see anything new at all.

[summer]

O/T real real quick here...

My very near and dear best best friend lives in Seattle and her name is Karen-- does the word Joey mean anything to you? If not then you are not her.

LOL! :biggrin:

[sammy62]

LOL! :biggrin:

I have a cousin Joey in Minnesota....:rolleyes:

[Rapunzel]

Yep. No more low profile Italian DJ's for the princess. The OC has scored herself a high-profile Hispanic attorney. :lol:

Yeah, I wonder if she can get that tattoo changed from Italian to Spanish...:tonguewag:

[summer]

I have a cousin Joey in Minnesota....:rolleyes:

Close enough! :thumbsup:

[AMS]

what a sad day./....rest in peace Farrah and Michael.....:rose::rose:

Wasn't "Gone Too Soon", the song at Caylee's memorial, a Michael Jackson song?

imo

[summer]

Sorry, I'm just joshin'. For some reason that hit my funnybone. :wub:

[runnnempty]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

[*Serenity*]

So many dresses have changed around here-- so I have a quick question.... is JBL on here from the Cutt's trial? I posted with so many good people on that board and this board is just as friendly.
I will never forget watching carpet one night on the live cam in the court room waiting for that guilty verdict. We sent one poor little poster down to the court house to see what was going on. I know,
we were desperate for news!!

If Casey takes the stand like the surprise-- Cutts took the stand and told everyone it was an accident I think I will literally vomit. It was unbelievable what that monster did and then he threw Jess/Chloe in the back of his truck wrapped in her comfortor and tossed her in the woods to rot-- just like Casey did with sweet little Caylee. Early in the morning driving right through town. I can see Casey doing her dumping deed in broad daylight just like Cutts did. RAGE....

[Rapunzel]

I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.

Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?

Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."

I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see. :thumbsup:

:seeya:Gin

Gin



I know in Kiomarie Cruz's interview with LE she said Casey was fine in middle and high school...she said Casey did not get weird till after Caylee was born...but I don't know this girl...so we really don't know if she is stable???

[*Serenity*]

Wasn't "Gone Too Soon", the song at Caylee's memorial, a Michael Jackson song?

imo

Yes I do believe so. A poster on the TMZ board was just posting about that. It wasn't a nice post so I won't repeat it.

[no1what]

She said it will be out in Nov. and that she writes about many true crimes. (She wrote about the nutty astronaut too.)

I have her site bookmarked now.

www.dianefanning.com

I also found an interview she did back in January about the book and the case. One point that I caught in that interview is that she thinks LE left the car at the Anthony home too long. I totally disagree with that. Once Yuri noticed the smell, he took steps to have that car impounded. That was just Cindy's BS IIRC and they called her on it in some other interview.

Here's the interview.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/01/12/The-Levi-Page-Show

When she mentioned that George and Cindy would not profit from this book did she say if anyone supporting Casey would profit from the book?????

In other words maybe the family sold the rights to someone who sold the rights to someone and that someone is paying for Casey's attorney's..............................

[AMS]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

OMG - such a horribly sad day. :crying:

imo

[*Serenity*]

I know in Kiomarie Cruz's interview with LE she said Casey was fine in middle and high school...she said Casey did not get weird till after Caylee was born...but I don't know this girl...so we really don't know if she is stable???

Is this the same girl that claimed another Casey called her the same day CMA called her for $$.... and then her boyfriend refused to turn over cell records?

[Lavinia]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

Oh my! :crying: That's it. I'm throwing in the towel for the day. Poor baby. :rose:

[no1what]

Why does the back cover of this book state that the police found Caylee's remains? I hope the contents of the book has more factual information.

How did she get permission to use Caylee's photo on the front cover???

[denjet]

Did anyone see that KC got a new celebrity roomie ??

Billy Bob Thornton's Daughter Indicted in Baby's Death (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20287530,00.html)

Yep, she'll be "staying" at the OC Jail awaiting trial ...

[Sandy001]

George admitted in an interview, that the towyard company name was written on the notice that they found on their front door. So, the possibility exists that they knew where the car was before they ever picked up the certified letter from the PO. I wonder if Really has ever driven by there and looked to see what type of secure fence that they have there? In one picture, it showed a very high fence (I'm guessing at least 10 feet). Couldn't tell if there was barbed wire on top of it or not.

[Imperfect4]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

My goodness. :crying:

I'm not sure how much more bad news I can handle today.

RIP, little Jada :rose:

[*Serenity*]

Did anyone see that KC got a new celebrity roomie ??

Billy Bob Thornton's Daughter Indicted in Baby's Death (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20287530,00.html)

Yep, she'll be "staying" at the OC Jail awaiting trial ...

WOW....
Farrah, Michael, Jada Justice, and now this.

What a day.

[martha]

we had two 19 year old boys to kill them selfs this week here and now all the death today.I don;t watch oprah much but I did watch her today it was about a woman leaving her baby in the car and the heat killed her it was so very sad. This has been a very sad week. I don;t understand how casey could take caylees life. She was a sweet baby.Just like the little baby girl they just found.All I can do is pray for the familys of them all. jmho

[Sandy001]

speaking of the Scott Peterson case.. What I find very comforting with this case is that I have Yet to read 1 person that believes Casey is innocent. Where is Marlene?
Is she still working on SP is innocent? I never for one moment thought he was innocent and all
the claims from the Not guilty folks was ("all they have is circumstantial evidence") That is pretty much all we have here as well.

Thank God everyone can see what Casey has done!!

Moo My links to Marlene's site don't work. I think she has fallen off the face of the earth. She's been replaced by the Scott Peterson web site where the family lists their "Featured Facts," aka "featured Lies" by anyone who knows anything about the case.

I think Marlene only took up for MEN who were convicted, never women.

[Chardonnay]

Wasn't "Gone Too Soon", the song at Caylee's memorial, a Michael Jackson song?

imo

Yes it was... It's listed on this site..Orignally written for little Ryan White. I thought the song was appropriate for Caylee, jmo..

http://www.celebritiesfans.com/showCELEB.php?celebID=1254

[AnnieBell]

Thanks Annie!! Can you send me a pm with it just in case I miss it?

TIA

will do. just made a note to myself. can't guarantee what shape my brain will be in after this. may need to check into getting :laugh:some vit "A**"

[Sandy001]

If a plea is offered to Casey, and she accepts it does she have to disclose exactly what happened to caylee at court?Only if that is part of the plea deal, i.e., she will get a reduced sentence if she tells what happened....like Gary Ridgeway and the BTK killer who both got out of the death penalty by admitting some of their crimes. That decision would be up to the prosecution qnd I hope they don't do it.

Personally I would like to see an "Anthony Wing" in the Orange County Jail. moo

[apothecary]

we had two 19 year old boys to kill them selfs this week here and now all the death today.I don;t watch oprah much but I did watch her today it was about a woman leaving her baby in the car and the heat killed her it was so very sad. This has been a very sad week. I don;t understand how casey could take caylees life. She was a sweet baby.Just like the little baby girl they just found.All I can do is pray for the familys of them all. jmho
You are right Martha.All deaths are sad especially those of young people.:sad:Are you getting used to your new laptop.I just love mine.

[TunaMelt]

How did she get permission to use Caylee's photo on the front cover???

I imagine because it's in the public domain.

An author doesn't need to get permission to use photos that are "out there."

The Anthonys tried to convince people that they have trademarked or otherwise "own" every likeness of Caylee and Casey and of anything that has to do with this case -- but that's not true.

If it were, many many writers would have true crime books without one single photo in them.

Cindy doesn't own everything -- she just wants us to think she does.
:wink:

[Sandy001]

I am a firm believer in "face what happened and deal with it"....they will get closure alot faster then the route they are taking..... Truth aids in healing also. Personally, I dont' believe there is such a thing as closure. You just learn to live with the truth.

[legalmania]

we had two 19 year old boys to kill them selfs this week here and now all the death today.I don;t watch oprah much but I did watch her today it was about a woman leaving her baby in the car and the heat killed her it was so very sad. This has been a very sad week. I don;t understand how casey could take caylees life. She was a sweet baby.Just like the little baby girl they just found.All I can do is pray for the familys of them all. jmho

This happens so much in Florida martha, One time I saw a little girl in a car with the windows rolled up about 3/4 of the way, I smashed the windows on both sides and called the police. You know I had to pay for the windows the judge found I should have waited for the police. I didn't mind I felt I saved the little girls life, and I would do it again.

[Rapunzel]

Is this the same girl that claimed another Casey called her the same day CMA called her for $$.... and then her boyfriend refused to turn over cell records?


Yes, she seems fairly credible...but hey...WTH do I know.

[AMS]

Yes it was... It's listed on this site..Orignally written for little Ryan White. I thought the song was appropriate for Caylee, jmo..

http://www.celebritiesfans.com/showCELEB.php?celebID=1254

Thank you Chardonnay. I did not realize the song was written for Ryan White. It was very appropriate for Caylee...

imo

[AnniePie]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

Oh my goodness. :ohmy: Sometimes I just hate the world we live in.

[panokatana]

Oh my goodness. :ohmy: Sometimes I just hate the world we live in.

Sorry..OT...but...

Isn't Jada Justice a beautiful name?

[Chardonnay]

Thank you Chardonnay. I did not realize the song was written for Ryan White. It was very appropriate for Caylee...

imo

You're welcome Ams...

[Imperfect4]

Geez ... I know we're O/T here (some of us), but is anyone watching JVM's show?

JVM's on the phone (Vinnie Politan is hosting) and she just said she's getting news over her Blackberry that there's a criminal investigation being launched into MJ's death.

ETA: Anyone else feel like they've been hit on the head with a hammer?

[Imperfect4]

Sorry..OT...but...

Isn't Jada Justice a beautiful name?

Yes. :sad:

[bchand]

When she mentioned that George and Cindy would not profit from this book did she say if anyone supporting Casey would profit from the book?????

In other words maybe the family sold the rights to someone who sold the rights to someone and that someone is paying for Casey's attorney's..............................

Many of us had follow-up questions but she didn't hang around very long. I think someone emailed her. I think that's why she's out there publically trying to let everyone know that she is NOT in cahoots with the Anthonys in any way.

She's written many many books.

[sammy62]

This happens so much in Florida martha, One time I saw a little girl in a car with the windows rolled up about 3/4 of the way, I smashed the windows on both sides and called the police. You know I had to pay for the windows the judge found I should have waited for the police. I didn't mind I felt I saved the little girls life, and I would do it again.

whats wrong with stupid parents....1st they leave their baby in a hot car...and then instead of getting down on their knees...they make you pay for the windows. Shame on the judge too.

:thumbdown:

[legalmania]

Geez ... I know we're O/T here (some of us), but is anyone watching JVM's show?

JVM's on the phone (Vinnie Politan is hosting) and she just said she's getting news over her Blackberry that there's a criminal investigation being launched into MJ's death.

ETA: Anyone else feel like they've been hit on the head with a hammer?

I have a feeling that they are going to say it was an overdose.

[Sandy001]

Everything that I have seen in the Discover indicates to me that Casey is responsible in the death of Caylee. However, I really haven't been able to decide that she is the only "knowing" party to the death or disposal. Those Anthonys sure all lawyered up way too quickly after Caylee's remains were found on Dec 11th.IIRC they lawyered up BEFORE teh body was found. Nejames was there when Miller was still searching and that was BEFORE the body was found.

[legalmania]

Yes it was... It's listed on this site..Orignally written for little Ryan White. I thought the song was appropriate for Caylee, jmo..

http://www.celebritiesfans.com/showCELEB.php?celebID=1254

In the beginning of the song when he does it live he says this is for Ryan.

[AMS]

Geez ... I know we're O/T here (some of us), but is anyone watching JVM's show?

JVM's on the phone (Vinnie Politan is hosting) and she just said she's getting news over her Blackberry that there's a criminal investigation being launched into MJ's death.

ETA: Anyone else feel like they've been hit on the head with a hammer?

One site is saying it's like the Anna Nicole case. If the doctor knew he was an addict and kept providing prescription drugs.....

imo

[legalmania]

whats wrong with stupid parents....1st they leave their baby in a hot car...and then instead of getting down on their knees...they make you pay for the windows. Shame on the judge too.

:thumbdown:

That's one of the reasons I left Florida, the baby was non responsive I was shaking, the mother was screaming at me. The cops were saying lady she just saved your babies life and she's screaming why did she have to break my windows.

[denjet]

WOW....
Farrah, Michael, Jada Justice, and now this.

What a day.
I know! She could very well be housed in the same unit as KC :scared:

[Sandy001]

I don't recall Mr. Baez stating he's working pro bono. :confused:
Didn't I read somewhere that Baez was paid a $5000 retainer for thsi case. That would have been used up many many many moons ago.This defense is gonna be in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. Can anyone on the defense team afford that? I believe I read that Henry Lee is paid $300,000 for just the court appearance. On top of that you have travel expenses, and hotel expenses.

[Sandy001]

I have a feeling that they are going to say it was an overdose. There WILL be an autopsy. It's the law if he wasn't under medical supervision for last 24 hours.

[AMS]

I know! She could very well be housed in the same unit as KC :scared:

Casey will probably be pizzed that she is no longer the "most famous" inmate.

imo

[happygert]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

OMG.. did the baby sitter kill her?

[legalmania]

I imagine because it's in the public domain.

An author doesn't need to get permission to use photos that are "out there."

The Anthonys tried to convince people that they have trademarked or otherwise "own" every likeness of Caylee and Casey and of anything that has to do with this case -- but that's not true.

If it were, many many writers would have true crime books without one single photo in them.

Cindy doesn't own everything -- she just wants us to think she does.
:wink:

I don't think it's public domain if your making money. If somebody popular was out in public and somebody took a picture of her they can keep it, but you can't copy it and sell it. You have to have permission to use her picture.

[happygert]

OT/ Such heartbreaking news, they have found the body of sweet baby Jada Justice.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/station/as_seen_on/We_Believe_We_ve_Found_Remains_of_Jada_Justice_Chi cago.html

May her soul rest in peace.

they have arrested babysitter and her boyfriend..they arrested them last night

[legalmania]

There WILL be an autopsy. It's the law if he wasn't under medical supervision for last 24 hours.

Maybe he had sickle cell anemia? It could be so many things, I'm sure he had a complete physical before thinking about going on tour. It's a mystery.

[denjet]

Casey will probably be pizzed that she is no longer the "most famous" inmate.

imo

I think you're right ... she doesn't strike me as the type to play second fiddle ... :tonguewag:

[Rapunzel]

I think you're right ... she doesn't strike me as the type to play second fiddle ... :tonguewag:


Yeah, she may have to up her standing in the jail some how...hummm...confess to other murders...murder an inmate...Good God what next???

[Rapunzel]

hey all..I live about 100 miles south of where they found Jada...yesterday was the hottest day of the year so far here, and today was even hotter...In Indiana, the humidity is so high that when it is that hot - you step outside and it slams into you like a wet blanket...how sad...I had a bad feeling...I will back later tonight...all fo rnow...

I'm from Michigan City...been in Oklahoma for a year and half now, but lived in Michigan City all my life.

[martha]

You are right Martha.All deaths are sad especially those of young people.:sad:Are you getting used to your new laptop.I just love mine.
Oh honey I am doing a little better with it but I have a time getting my arrow at the right place ha, Yes it is so sad when we lose someone. That is why I can;t understand casey doing what she has done and she don;t even act like it bothers her that Caylee is gone.jmho

[bchand]

Didn't I read somewhere that Baez was paid a $5000 retainer for thsi case. That would have been used up many many many moons ago.This defense is gonna be in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. Can anyone on the defense team afford that? I believe I read that Henry Lee is paid $300,000 for just the court appearance. On top of that you have travel expenses, and hotel expenses.

IIRC Casey "told" him she hade $5,000. George laughed at that.

[Rapunzel]

IIRC Casey "told" him she hade $5,000. George laughed at that.

Your recall is excellent.

[TunaMelt]

I don't think it's public domain if your making money. If somebody popular was out in public and somebody took a picture of her they can keep it, but you can't copy it and sell it. You have to have permission to use her picture.

Then, maybe it was a photo that had already been sold to the media, and Fanning got permission to use it that way. Like a photo published in a newspaper or magazine, it's out there.

If I were (god forbid) writing a book about KC, there's lots of photos that are in the public domain because they've been published already. Or, you go to the media source who bought them and get their permission to reprint.

It's not a complicated thing. And it's done all the time.

[denjet]

Yeah, she may have to up her standing in the jail some how...hummm...confess to other murders...murder an inmate...Good God what next???

LOL Rap!
I know, what's she going to do now ....

Casey's in F-DORM-22

Amanda's in F-DORM-12

They must be in the same area?

[Rapunzel]

LOL Rap!
I know, what's she going to do now ....

Casey's in F-DORM-22

Amanda's in F-DORM-12

They must be in the same area?


Sounds like it...scardadeeeeee

[Wildflowers]

Yes it was... It's listed on this site..Orignally written for little Ryan White. I thought the song was appropriate for Caylee, jmo..

http://www.celebritiesfans.com/showCELEB.php?celebID=1254

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

[legalmania]

Then, maybe it was a photo that had already been sold to the media, and Fanning got permission to use it that way. Like a photo published in a newspaper or magazine, it's out there.

If I were (god forbid) writing a book about KC, there's lots of photos that are in the public domain because they've been published already. Or, you go to the media source who bought them and get their permission to reprint.

It's not a complicated thing. And it's done all the time.

You can go to a certain site no sure which and buy the picture for a certain amount of money. I took copyright in collage but can't remember all of it, alls I remember is if you get caught using a picture without permission there goes your profits.

[Rapunzel]

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_playlists&search_query=caylee+anthony+memorial+service&uni=1

You should be able to find them all here and welcome!!!

[happygert]

Geez ... I know we're O/T here (some of us), but is anyone watching JVM's show?

JVM's on the phone (Vinnie Politan is hosting) and she just said she's getting news over her Blackberry that there's a criminal investigation being launched into MJ's death.

ETA: Anyone else feel like they've been hit on the head with a hammer?

Brian Oxman One of MJ attorneys.. on NG said they were investigating possibilty different RX's by different DRS..

[Deannalynn]

Brian Oxman One of MJ attorneys.. on NG said they were investigating possibilty different RX's by different DRS..

Another Anna Nicole saga?:confused:

[happygert]

hey all..I live about 100 miles south of where they found Jada...yesterday was the hottest day of the year so far here, and today was even hotter...In Indiana, the humidity is so high that when it is that hot - you step outside and it slams into you like a wet blanket...how sad...I had a bad feeling...I will back later tonight...all fo rnow...

Dang .. they arrested baby sitter and her boyfriend last night.. Did they ever find the 9 month old from texas that they tied blocks to and threw in the river?

[Imperfect4]

Brian Oxman One of MJ attorneys.. on NG said they were investigating possibilty different RX's by different DRS..

I'm watching. Sounds like Oxman plans to make a federal case out of the fact MJ was provided with scripts even though everyone around him knew there was a problem.

[happygert]

Another Anna Nicole saga?:confused:

looks like it...

[summer4meplz]

they have arrested babysitter and her boyfriend..they arrested them last night

oh poor beautiful baby girl.....this is just getting too much...too often....I wish there could be some kind of proof of parenting ability before these women could even take their children out of the hospital...

[Sun]

IIRC they lawyered up BEFORE teh body was found. Nejames was there when Miller was still searching and that was BEFORE the body was found.

Nejames gave George and Cindy the boot around Nov 20th. George and Cindy first met with Conway Dec 11th. I recall George and Cindy attending a court hearing, without any representation (when the State filed for a gag order against the defense and the Anthonys).

[happygert]

I'm watching. Sounds like Oxman plans to make a federal case out of the fact MJ was provided with scripts even though everyone around him knew there was a problem.

exactly... that the way I took it.. Why didnt they do something before now? Heck police are there what ever was there is gone now no doubt.

[happygert]

oh poor beautiful baby girl.....this is just getting too much...too often....I wish there could be some kind of proof of parenting ability before these women could even take their children out of the hospital...

Too many children dying by the hands of parents or the sitters.. This is crazy..

[summer4meplz]

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

cindy thought she was at a concert...she had a great time...it was bizarre and inappropriate.....and only people with a pure heart could get in.:cursing:....watching lee will make you sick.....hearing george ask for everyone to write letters of support to casey will make you sicker.....imo

[AMS]

cindy thought she was at a concert...she had a great time...it was bizarre and inappropriate.....and only people with a pure heart could get in.:cursing:....watching lee will make you sick.....hearing george ask for everyone to write letters of support to casey will make you sicker.....imo

EXCELLENT Cliff Notes summary summer :thumbsup: I had forgotten how bizarre the whole event was.

imo

[Sun]

I don't think it's public domain if your making money. If somebody popular was out in public and somebody took a picture of her they can keep it, but you can't copy it and sell it. You have to have permission to use her picture.

If I take a picture of a "rolling billboard" wouldn't the picture that I took be mine to do with what I wanted?

[Sun]

LOL Rap!
I know, what's she going to do now ....

Casey's in F-DORM-22

Amanda's in F-DORM-12

They must be in the same area?

Oh my. It does look like they are going to be in the same dorm. Imagine that!

[Imperfect4]

exactly... that the way I took it.. Why didnt they do something before now? Heck police are there what ever was there is gone now no doubt.

(Sorry everyone for the continuing O/T, but the MJ thread is a bit of a snakepit and it skeers me over there.)

According to Diane Dimond on JVM's show earlier, she had inside info from a source close to the Jacksons, that Joe (his father) and someone else was at the house when Michael collapsed. She said the source said it actually happened in the neighborhood of 10-10:30am and Joe and others tried to resuscitate him. 9-1-1 wasn't called until around 12:20pm, IIRC. MJ was already cold when paramedics arrived. Now, if all this is true, it makes you wonder what went on in the house between the time MJ fell ill and the 9-1-1 call was placed.

Again, this is all according to Diane Dimond. But I *think* she's a credible investigative journalist who has been writing about MJ for years.

ETA: She also said, or I read, that one of MJ's sisters (I'm guessing LaToya) lives in Vegas and had to get to LA when she got the news. There are photos of LaToya running into the hospital in the early afternoon, so that sort of fits Dimond's information about when MJ actually collapsed.

[happygert]

Oh my. It does look like they are going to be in the same dorm. Imagine that!

maybe right next to each other or across... oh wont that be a treat.. they can share their comissary... Oh im sure c & g are trying to figure out what show they'll be on next.. With MJ and FF and now amanda being the headlines c & g are going to have to grab some spot light for themselves..

[frances1]

(Sorry everyone for the continuing O/T, but the MJ thread is a bit of a snakepit and it skeers me over there.)

According to Diane Dimond on JVM's show earlier, she had inside info from a source close to the Jacksons, that Joe (his father) and someone else was at the house when Michael collapsed. She said the source said it actually happened in the neighborhood of 10-10:30am and Joe and others tried to resuscitate him. 9-1-1 wasn't called until around 12:20pm, IIRC. MJ was already cold when paramedics arrived. Now, if all this is true, it makes you wonder what went on in the house between the time MJ fell ill and the 9-1-1 call was placed.

Again, this is all according to Diane Dimond. But I *think* she's a credible investigative journalist who has been writing about MJ for years.

ETA: She also said, or I read, that one of MJ's sisters (I'm guessing LaToya) lives in Vegas and had to get to LA when she got the news. There are photos of LaToya running into the hospital in the early afternoon, so that sort of fits Dimond's information about when MJ actually collapsed.

She also has always had quite a "hate" on for MJ. Not saying she's not accurate, just saying......

[Txswildflwrs]

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

Get your Maalox handy, you will need it for this show. "Cirque de Cindy!"
I dare you to watch the whole thing. :scared:

[Imperfect4]

LOL Rap!
I know, what's she going to do now ....

Casey's in F-DORM-22

Amanda's in F-DORM-12

They must be in the same area?

This is interesting. Almost looks like Casey's on the second floor?

Would that fit with that other inmate's recounting of the story of Casey yelling "I'm pizzed" after the DP was put back on the table? Didn't that inmate (the one who was interviewed by Radar Online) say as Casey was climbing up some stairs she looked at the other gal and said "Help me?" If that inmate was in F-DORM-12, she'd be right below Casey.

Just speculatin. :huh:

[legalmania]

If I take a picture of a "rolling billboard" wouldn't the picture that I took be mine to do with what I wanted?

Yes so long as you don't profit from it.

[Imperfect4]

She also has always had quite a "hate" on for MJ. Not saying she's not accurate, just saying......

I didn't realize that. Makes sense. She's surely not sparing the gory details of his life now that he's passed. :scared:

[happygert]

(Sorry everyone for the continuing O/T, but the MJ thread is a bit of a snakepit and it skeers me over there.)

According to Diane Dimond on JVM's show earlier, she had inside info from a source close to the Jacksons, that Joe (his father) and someone else was at the house when Michael collapsed. She said the source said it actually happened in the neighborhood of 10-10:30am and Joe and others tried to resuscitate him. 9-1-1 wasn't called until around 12:20pm, IIRC. MJ was already cold when paramedics arrived. Now, if all this is true, it makes you wonder what went on in the house between the time MJ fell ill and the 9-1-1 call was placed.

Again, this is all according to Diane Dimond. But I *think* she's a credible investigative journalist who has been writing about MJ for years.



ETA: She also said, or I read, that one of MJ's sisters (I'm guessing LaToya) lives in Vegas and had to get to LA when she got the news. There are photos of LaToya running into the hospital in the early afternoon, so that sort of fits Dimond's information about when MJ actually collapsed.

Exactly why did they wait 2 hours? .. there should be an investigation... if someone hinder his getting medical attention they should be charged.. If there was anything in that house it was already gone before EMT'S got there,,,

[denjet]

maybe right next to each other or across... oh wont that be a treat.. they can share their comissary... Oh im sure c & g are trying to figure out what show they'll be on next.. With MJ and FF and now amanda being the headlines c & g are going to have to grab some spot light for themselves..
Hi happy!
2 baby murderers in the same dorm!
You just know it must be killing the Ants with all the news about the autopsy ... I'm sure cindy wants to be in front of the camera doing damage control (lying) ...

[AnniePie]

LOL Rap!
I know, what's she going to do now ....

Casey's in F-DORM-22

Amanda's in F-DORM-12

They must be in the same area?

That reminds me... do you remember the inmate who was being interviewed about Casey being tied to her bed and yelling, "I'm pissed!" She said Casey looked over at her in her "room" from her "room". Do these people believe they're living in sororiety house or what? :rolleyes:

Whack jobs, one and all.

[happygert]

Hi happy!
2 baby murderers in the same dorm!
You just know it must be killing the Ants with all the news about the autopsy ... I'm sure cindy wants to be in front of the camera doing damage control (lying) ...

yes but now attention off them .. she has to get it back she cant let someone else grab her spot light..she's got to be number 1..

[AnniePie]

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

You chose a pretty name, Wildflowers. :smile: Welcome to the board!

[Wildflowers]

Get your Maalox handy, you will need it for this show. "Cirque de Cindy!"
I dare you to watch the whole thing. :scared:

Well I did find it, And i will tell you there's not enough aniacid in the world to watch it all. Watching SINdy PET Lee is enough to make you
vomit. And his performance was, well i wanted to slap them all.

this is jmo

[101Spots]

Yes so long as you don't profit from it.

Pardon, but this doesn't make sense to me. Paparazzi continually shoot photos of celebrities without their permission and quite often make a healthy profit from doing so. Likewise, photographers take stock pictures of the Empire State Building, bikini-clad roller skaters in Venice Beach, or sunsets over the Cayman Islands and sell the same photo over and over.

???????

[AnniePie]

cindy thought she was at a concert...she had a great time...it was bizarre and inappropriate.....and only people with a pure heart could get in.:cursing:....watching lee will make you sick.....hearing george ask for everyone to write letters of support to casey will make you sicker.....imo

Don't forget about Cindy's delighted smile at Lee's speech and the fact that she stroked his back like he was a dog. :ohmy: Oh my, she was so proud of that boy.

[seeing_eye]

There WILL be an autopsy. It's the law if he wasn't under medical supervision for last 24 hours.

Is that a law for all the states? My late husband passed away suddenly in our home and he had not seen a doctor in the last 24 hours. The JP pronounced him dead of natural causes. He was taken to the funeral home and that was it.

[AnniePie]

maybe right next to each other or across... oh wont that be a treat.. they can share their comissary... Oh im sure c & g are trying to figure out what show they'll be on next.. With MJ and FF and now amanda being the headlines c & g are going to have to grab some spot light for themselves..

So sweet. They can have jammie parties in their rooms and share the OC's pork cheezies while they do Casey's sticker books. Now that's the life.

[101Spots]

So sweet. They can have jammie parties in their rooms and share the OC's pork cheezies while they do Casey's sticker books. Now that's the life.

La bella vita, baby. Enjoy it!

[seeing_eye]

Oh honey I am doing a little better with it but I have a time getting my arrow at the right place ha, Yes it is so sad when we lose someone. That is why I can;t understand casey doing what she has done and she don;t even act like it bothers her that Caylee is gone.jmho

Martha, if you're using that touchpad I can understand your frustration. I disabled my touchpad on my laptop and use a mouse.

[happygert]

Is that a law for all the states? My late husband passed away suddenly in our home and he had not seen a doctor in the last 24 hours. The JP pronounced him dead of natural causes. He was taken to the funeral home and that was it.

Did he have a history of heart disease, or diabetic?

[Txswildflwrs]

Well I did find it, And i will tell you there's not enough aniacid in the world to watch it all. Watching SINdy PET Lee is enough to make you
vomit. And his performance was, well i wanted to slap them all.

this is jmo

I told you. I wouldn't lie to my sister would I? I am glad you figured out how to post. :tonguewag:

[Wildflowers]

So sweet. They can have jammie parties in their rooms and share the OC's pork cheezies while they do Casey's sticker books. Now that's the life.

Maybe Casey knew what was going to happen when she got that Tattoo.... a Wonderful life

[Wildflowers]

I told you. I wouldn't lie to my sister would I? I am glad you figured out how to post. :tonguewag:

well sort of but im still learning so yall stick with me!:thumbsup:

[martha]

Martha, if you're using that touchpad I can understand your frustration. I disabled my touchpad on my laptop and use a mouse.yes that is what I am useing and someone said I could use the mouse so I may have to do that. Being my age and shake hands don;t go well with this.ha,thanks.

[Daffodil]

Sounds like it...scardadeeeeee



Sorry, I missed some things. Who is Amanda?

[Chardonnay]

This is interesting. Almost looks like Casey's on the second floor?

Would that fit with that other inmate's recounting of the story of Casey yelling "I'm pizzed" after the DP was put back on the table? Didn't that inmate (the one who was interviewed by Radar Online) say as Casey was climbing up some stairs she looked at the other gal and said "Help me?" If that inmate was in F-DORM-12, she'd be right below Casey.

Just speculatin. :huh:

But that inmate said she walked by Casey's cell and saw all her food goodies on her bed and the black flower and other things in her cell. Whatcha think the reason could be that that inmate would be on the second tier? :shrug:

[seeing_eye]

Did he have a history of heart disease, or diabetic?

Yes. Heart disease.

[Rapunzel]

Don't forget about Cindy's delighted smile at Lee's speech and the fact that she stroked his back like he was a dog. :ohmy: Oh my, she was so proud of that boy.

Where is that barf icon???...Oh there it is...barf

[Sun]

This is interesting. Almost looks like Casey's on the second floor?

Would that fit with that other inmate's recounting of the story of Casey yelling "I'm pizzed" after the DP was put back on the table? Didn't that inmate (the one who was interviewed by Radar Online) say as Casey was climbing up some stairs she looked at the other gal and said "Help me?" If that inmate was in F-DORM-12, she'd be right below Casey.

Just speculatin. :huh:

I wonder if anyone has ever came up with a floorplan for the area in which Casey is being held in the jail?

[Imperfect4]

But that inmate said she walked by Casey's cell and saw all her food goodies on her bed and the black flower and other things in her cell. Whatcha think the reason could be that that inmate would be on the second tier? :shrug:

Good point. So much for my guess about the OC being on the second floor. :laugh:

[happygert]

Yes. Heart disease.

if he had a history of that they usually dont do an autopsy.. They may have contacted his DR. when my uncle who was 51 died at home they contacted his dr. he told them he was surprise he lived as long as he did.. and he signed death certifcate.. heart disease runs in our family..

[sammy62]

Oh honey I am doing a little better with it but I have a time getting my arrow at the right place ha, Yes it is so sad when we lose someone. That is why I can;t understand casey doing what she has done and she don;t even act like it bothers her that Caylee is gone.jmho

I recommend buying a cordless mouse. I don't think they are very expensive and WELL worth it.

[sammy62]

Nejames gave George and Cindy the boot around Nov 20th. George and Cindy first met with Conway Dec 11th. I recall George and Cindy attending a court hearing, without any representation (when the State filed for a gag order against the defense and the Anthonys).

isn't that the hearing where Cindy raised her hand from the peanut gallery?

[Imperfect4]

I wonder if anyone has ever came up with a floorplan for the area in which Casey is being held in the jail?

I'm looking at a very small pic of the female detention center and can't even tell whether there are two floors.

[Sun]

isn't that the hearing where Cindy raised her hand from the peanut gallery?

Yes, raised her hand from the gallery. That's the one. Once NeJame dropped them as clients, they went unrepresented by counsel until the remains of Caylee were found on Dec 11th.

[desmom]

Is that a law for all the states? My late husband passed away suddenly in our home and he had not seen a doctor in the last 24 hours. The JP pronounced him dead of natural causes. He was taken to the funeral home and that was it.

The State of IL used to be if they had been seen by a doctor within 30 days and the doctor was willing to sign the D.C. jmo

[Sun]

I'm looking at a very small pic of the female detention center and can't even tell whether there are two floors.

How small? Can you share the pic or a link?

[summer4meplz]

Is that a law for all the states? My late husband passed away suddenly in our home and he had not seen a doctor in the last 24 hours. The JP pronounced him dead of natural causes. He was taken to the funeral home and that was it.

I'm so sorry about your loss.....:rose:

[summer4meplz]

(Sorry everyone for the continuing O/T, but the MJ thread is a bit of a snakepit and it skeers me over there.)

According to Diane Dimond on JVM's show earlier, she had inside info from a source close to the Jacksons, that Joe (his father) and someone else was at the house when Michael collapsed. She said the source said it actually happened in the neighborhood of 10-10:30am and Joe and others tried to resuscitate him. 9-1-1 wasn't called until around 12:20pm, IIRC. MJ was already cold when paramedics arrived. Now, if all this is true, it makes you wonder what went on in the house between the time MJ fell ill and the 9-1-1 call was placed.

Again, this is all according to Diane Dimond. But I *think* she's a credible investigative journalist who has been writing about MJ for years.

ETA: She also said, or I read, that one of MJ's sisters (I'm guessing LaToya) lives in Vegas and had to get to LA when she got the news. There are photos of LaToya running into the hospital in the early afternoon, so that sort of fits Dimond's information about when MJ actually collapsed.

it's been closed...

[AnniePie]

I wonder if anyone has ever came up with a floorplan for the area in which Casey is being held in the jail?

No, but I could draw you a leetle, teensy, weensy picture of her cell. :laugh: I wonder if it's so small she gets sick of herself in there.

[desmom]

I did not see these in the links thread and I apologize if this is an echo post:

Motion for Determination of New Trial Date (forged check charges)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859813/detail.html

Motion Compel Photographs (Casey's tattoo)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859853/detail.html

[Sun]

No, but I could draw you a leetle, teensy, weensy picture of her cell. :laugh: I wonder if it's so small she gets sick of herself in there.

There may not be actual pics/floorplans available to the public for the jail areas... due to security issues, I suppose. I have no idea.

[Sun]

I did not see these in the links thread and I apologize if this is an echo post:

Motion for Determination of New Trial Date (forged check charges)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859813/detail.html

Motion Compel Photographs (Casey's tattoo)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859853/detail.html

I've never really had much interest in the tattoo that Casey got, or what it said, or even what the saying meant. It's interesting to note that the State isn't even sure what the saying is on the tattoo. I'm sure that Baez has already seen it, as Casey spent a whole lots of hours in his office while she was out on bond.

[Imperfect4]

How small? Can you share the pic or a link?

Sure. It's the first one in this series: http://www.orangecountyfl.net/cms/DEPT/correct/jailfacilities/directsuper.htm

[Wildflowers]

No, but I could draw you a leetle, teensy, weensy picture of her cell. :laugh: I wonder if it's so small she gets sick of herself in there.

Now now.... you know how much she loves herself! do you really think she would be sick of herself :biggrin: i don't think so

[Imperfect4]

it's been closed...

There's another one started that's at 8 pages now. :scared:

[Imperfect4]

I did not see these in the links thread and I apologize if this is an echo post:

Motion for Determination of New Trial Date (forged check charges)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859813/detail.html

Motion Compel Photographs (Casey's tattoo)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19859853/detail.html

Well this is interesting. Both motions were filed by the assistant DA. Does anyone else take this to mean the tattoo photos are needed for the fraud case?

ETA: Nevermind. It says right on the document the photos are related to the murder case. Duh.

[seeing_eye]

The State of IL used to be if they had been seen by a doctor within 30 days and the doctor was willing to sign the D.C. jmo

I was personal friends with the EMT's and the JP and I know for certain they did not even ask for his doctor's name. The JP signed the death certificate and he was immediately sent to the funeral home.

I was at home at the time and they may have made their decision based on my description of how it was so sudden. He was on his computer sending someone a message on instant messenger. He was gone in an instant without even finishing the sentence he was typing.

[seeing_eye]

I'm so sorry about your loss.....:rose:

Thanks, Summer. That's been about 7 years ago and I'm about to get used to being alone.

[happygert]

The State of IL used to be if they had been seen by a doctor within 30 days and the doctor was willing to sign the D.C. jmo

Yes.. desmom you're right.

[gaelicpeas]

yes that is what I am useing and someone said I could use the mouse so I may have to do that. Being my age and shake hands don;t go well with this.ha,thanks.Yep, just plug a mouse into the back of your laptop and it works great!

[happygert]

I was personal friends with the EMT's and the JP and I know for certain they did not even ask for his doctor's name. The JP signed the death certificate and he was immediately sent to the funeral home.

I was at home at the time and they may have made their decision based on my description of how it was so sudden. He was on his computer sending someone a message on instant messenger. He was gone in an instant without even finishing the sentence he was typing.

massive heart attack... did he ever have open heart?

[AnniePie]

I was personal friends with the EMT's and the JP and I know for certain they did not even ask for his doctor's name. The JP signed the death certificate and he was immediately sent to the funeral home.

I was at home at the time and they may have made their decision based on my description of how it was so sudden. He was on his computer sending someone a message on instant messenger. He was gone in an instant without even finishing the sentence he was typing.

How sad for you, seeing_eye. Hugs.

[Imperfect4]

Thanks, Summer. That's been about 7 years ago and I'm about to get used to being alone.

((( seeing_eye ))) :wub:

[seeing_eye]

massive heart attack... did he ever have open heart?

No, he never did have heart surgery, but he did have one of those procedures where they run something through the veins to open arteries in the heart (can't recall what it's called). Yes, I think it was what you said...a massive heart attack. I was in an adjacent room at the time and heard a loud thud. By the time I ran in there, probably about 3 seconds, I think he was already dead. He and his computer chair had fallen backwards and that's what had made the big thud. I doubt he ever knew what happened.

[runnnempty]

I was going through some old vidoes of the early days. Here's a classic Cindy giving a verbal spanking to the reporter on Fox News(I think Megyn?), and Cindy gets one right back. Enjoy

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist

[Unleashed]

That reminds me... do you remember the inmate who was being interviewed about Casey being tied to her bed and yelling, "I'm pissed!" She said Casey looked over at her in her "room" from her "room". Do these people believe they're living in sororiety house or what? :rolleyes:

Whack jobs, one and all.

Not a sorority, the local Ritz. She probably still expects a chocolate on her pillow. :sneaky:

eh?
jmo

[happygert]

No, he never did have heart surgery, but he did have one of those procedures where they run something through the veins to open arteries in the heart (can't recall what it's called). Yes, I think it was what you said...a massive heart attack. I was in an adjacent room at the time and heard a loud thud. By the time I ran in there, probably about 3 seconds, I think he was already dead. He and his computer chair had fallen backwards and that's what had made the big thud. I doubt he ever knew what happened.


angiogram? .... or did they put a stint in the artery?

[legalmania]

Pardon, but this doesn't make sense to me. Paparazzi continually shoot photos of celebrities without their permission and quite often make a healthy profit from doing so. Likewise, photographers take stock pictures of the Empire State Building, bikini-clad roller skaters in Venice Beach, or sunsets over the Cayman Islands and sell the same photo over and over.

???????

Spots you came in at the middle, I can't explain copyright in a few sentences. I was just commenting that you can't take a picture of Caylee and put it in a book and make a profit without the permission of the estate. The Empire State Building and things like that is tricky it depends on how it's used. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to sue over a picture of a sunset.

[seeing_eye]

angiogram? .... or did they put a stint in the artery?

Angiogram. That is the word I couldn't recall (memory failure). No, they didn't put a stint in it. The doctor said he was doing fine after that procedure.

[Pruddennce]

I was going through some old vidoes of the early days. Here's a classic Cindy giving a verbal spanking to the reporter on Fox News(I think Megyn?), and Cindy gets one right back. Enjoy

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist

thank you. this should be played over and over again, at every opportunity. Cindy states yet ANOTHER DATE: June 14th...

??????????????????????????????????????

yes, she gave it to her at the end.....Cindy was asked right out of the starting why didnt Casey report her missing. Cindy rambling and rambling and not wanting to SPECULATE why she didnt report her missing...oh puleeze.....then has the the audacity to say 'she only AGREED to give this interview....blah blah blah on HER TERMs of course.......

.....THUD...she got it right over the head at the end. hammer AND DESERVED IT. she is so arrogant.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Dells]

Hi,

IIRC a couple of the experts said they were working pro bono at the beginning but then one of them (can't remember who, I think it was a woman) said they signed a payment non-disclosure agreement so they're not allowed to discuss the terms.

My sense is no one is working pro bono but that's just IMO from what I've heard and read.

Bolding mine....

I so agree. I don't think any of the attorneys are working "pro bono", even if they're not getting paid any actual money. The publicity is this case is priceless and in the long run it may net these attorneys more money than if they had actually been paid.

[legalmania]

Bolding mine....

I so agree. I don't think any of the attorneys are working "pro bono", even if they're not getting paid any actual money. The publicity is this case is priceless and in the long run it may net these attorneys more money than if they had actually been paid.


Only 1% of attorneys take pro bono cases.

[Chardonnay]

I was going through some old vidoes of the early days. Here's a classic Cindy giving a verbal spanking to the reporter on Fox News(I think Megyn?), and Cindy gets one right back. Enjoy

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2503541&referralPlaylistId=playlist


Again, CA can't keep her dates straight. She said on this video that the last time Casey saw Caylee was June 14th.. :confused: When was Father's Day? :cursing:

[runnnempty]

thank you. this should be played over and over again, at every opportunity. Cindy states yet ANOTHER DATE: June 14th...

??????????????????????????????????????

yes, she gave it to her at the end.....Cindy was asked right out of the starting why didnt Casey report her missing. Cindy rambling and rambling and not wanting to SPECULATE why she didnt report her missing...oh puleeze.....then has the the audacity to say 'she only AGREED to give this interview....blah blah blah on HER TERMs of course.......

.....THUD...she got it right over the head at the end. hammer AND DESERVED IT. she is so arrogant.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I know, where did she pull the June 14th date from? Jeeeezzz!

[runnnempty]

Again, CA can't keep her dates straight. She said on this video that the last time Casey saw Caylee was June 14th.. :confused: When was Father's Day? :cursing:

In 2008 it was June 15th.

[runnnempty]

What happened to the board?

[happygert]

What happened to the board?

I dont know why?

[seeing_eye]

What happened to the board?

I think everybody's gone to sleep. (Except you and me.)

[Chardonnay]

I'm here, and wishing Caylee was too. :mad:

[Imperfect4]

I'm still here.

Just sort of :unsure: about all the news today.

[happygert]

I'm still here.

Just sort of :unsure: about all the news today.

yes a lot of news for one day, Jada Justice, MJ, FF..

[Wildflowers]

I think everyone is on the MJ bandwagon :ohmy:

[happygert]

maybe everyones taking a few minutes of silence for all the ones who past today.:rose:

[Unleashed]

I think everybody's gone to sleep. (Except you and me.)

:seeya: And me.

Night shift should be arriving any moment.

[AnniePie]

I'm still here.

Just sort of :unsure: about all the news today.

I'm here too. It's so quiet that I started in on a sewing project.

Don't hate me, but I'm not really overwhelmed by the deaths of FF or MJ; they just weren't huge in my life. What bothers me the most is poor little Jada. She was a darling (just like Caylee was) and it's just too sad that someone would take her life when it had hardly even begun. :sad:

[happygert]

I think everyone is on the MJ bandwagon :ohmy:

OHHH ....that board can get ugly...Hope no one has to go shopping tonite..

[seeing_eye]

I'm here too. It's so quiet that I started in on a sewing project.

Don't hate me, but I'm not really overwhelmed by the deaths of FF or MJ; they just weren't huge in my life. What bothers me the most is poor little Jada. She was a darling (just like Caylee was) and it's just too sad that someone would take her life when it had hardly even begun. :sad:

Annie, I'm like you, I'm not too overwhelmed by what's happened to FF or MJ because they weren't huge in my life either. But the little, innocent ones -- their deaths really do overwhelm me. It's hard for me to even fathom these things happening.

[happygert]

I'm here too. It's so quiet that I started in on a sewing project.

Don't hate me, but I'm not really overwhelmed by the deaths of FF or MJ; they just weren't huge in my life. What bothers me the most is poor little Jada. She was a darling (just like Caylee was) and it's just too sad that someone would take her life when it had hardly even begun. :sad:

I know it's so sad when these little childrens lifes have become so disposable recently.. what in the sam hell is going on? I thought it was very odd in both cases Caylee and Jada that no one seen them no sent either that the dog could pick up from Jada, and only sent dogs picked up from Caylee was death..

[Chardonnay]

maybe everyones taking a few minutes of silence for all the ones who past today.:rose:

:crying: ............

[Wildflowers]

I'm here too. It's so quiet that I started in on a sewing project.

Don't hate me, but I'm not really overwhelmed by the deaths of FF or MJ; they just weren't huge in my life. What bothers me the most is poor little Jada. She was a darling (just like Caylee was) and it's just too sad that someone would take her life when it had hardly even begun. :sad:

I'm not familiar with Jada Justice, who was she? how long had she been missing? :sad:

[AnniePie]

I'm not familiar with Jada Justice, who was she? how long had she been missing? :sad:

She was a 2 1/2 year old who was apparently left in an unlocked car while the babysitter ran into the store for some smokes. It happened just a few days ago (?). They discovered the body today and the babysitter and her boyfriend have been arrested.

As old as I am and as much of this I've seen, it's still deadly shocking to hear of yet another baby murdered. I guess I (we all) need to toughen up. :sad:

[happygert]

I'm here too. It's so quiet that I started in on a sewing project.

Don't hate me, but I'm not really overwhelmed by the deaths of FF or MJ; they just weren't huge in my life. What bothers me the most is poor little Jada. She was a darling (just like Caylee was) and it's just too sad that someone would take her life when it had hardly even begun. :sad:

Just thinking about getting my crochet out..

What is it going to take to stop these mothers , fathers and sitters from killing innocent little babies? Evidently the death penalty by lethal injection is not the answer.. well of course unless if they would put the killers to death by the way they put the innocent little babies to death maybe that would stop them.. I've got a bad feeling that little Jada was beat to death..

[happygert]

She was a 2 1/2 year old who was apparently left in an unlocked car while the babysitter ran into the store for some smokes. It happened just a few days ago (?). They discovered the body today and the babysitter and her boyfriend have been arrested.

As old as I am and as much of this I've seen, it's still deadly shocking to hear of yet another baby murdered. I guess I (we all) need to toughen up. :sad:

She was from Indiana.. missing since june 16 th.. sitter was mother's cousin.. mom left her with her and went out of town think the mother was supposed to be gone for 2 weeks dont know how long she was gone..

[Wildflowers]

She was a 2 1/2 year old who was apparently left in an unlocked car while the babysitter ran into the store for some smokes. It happened just a few days ago (?). They discovered the body today and the babysitter and her boyfriend have been arrested.

As old as I am and as much of this I've seen, it's still deadly shocking to hear of yet another baby murdered. I guess I (we all) need to toughen up. :sad:

Ok, thank you, I do recall that, Until i started following this case I guess I didn't really hear to much about all of these children. Mostly watched local news. since I've watched more NG and headline news It seems that all you hear. There are some very sick people out there more than I care to think about.

[Imperfect4]

OHHH ....that board can get ugly...Hope no one has to go shopping tonite..

I think it would do a couple of them good. Sheesh.

[Imperfect4]

I know it's so sad when these little childrens lifes have become so disposable recently.. what in the sam hell is going on? I thought it was very odd in both cases Caylee and Jada that no one seen them no sent either that the dog could pick up from Jada, and only sent dogs picked up from Caylee was death..

My bold.

... and Haleigh, and Sandra, and Nevaeh, and the little Adji guy. And the two little Coleman boys. And on and on and on. :rose:

[Wildflowers]

Good night everyone, will probobly return later when I can't sleep.
God Bless you all

to all of the little ones who are no longer with us RIP:rose:
FF :rose: & MJ:rose:

[Imperfect4]

Goodnight, Wildflowers. :seeya:

[happygert]

My bold.

... and Haleigh, and Sandra, and Nevaeh, and the little Adji guy. And the two little Coleman boys. And on and on and on. :rose:


yes it's been a lot here lately Not to mention the 2 little boys from here that never got any air time .. that their father murdered.. Mother asked judge not to let her ex have unsupervised visits.. he ignored her let him have them and the first time he took them he murdered them then hung hisself.. one was 7 one was 9 stabbed one to death poisioned the other one..and no amber alert was given for a couple of days..

http://www.centralillinoisnewscenter.com/news/local/41707102.html

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/mar/31/local/chi-missing-boys-dead-31-mar31

http://pantagraph.com/news/article_614bef62-8f49-5219-b60f-b36f33d8944a.html

[Dells]

In one picture, it showed a very high fence (I'm guessing at least 10 feet). Couldn't tell if there was barbed wire on top of it or not.

If the fence at the towyard is really that high, then it makes it even more unreasonable that somebody climbed the fence and put a dead body there after the car was already towed to the towyard. I think it just solidifies that Casey is the one that put the dead body in the trunk of that car, and that dead body was the body of Caylee.:crying:

[happygert]

Good night everyone, will probobly return later when I can't sleep.
God Bless you all

to all of the little ones who are no longer with us RIP:rose:
FF :rose: & MJ:rose:



night ......

[Dells]

Only if that is part of the plea deal, i.e., she will get a reduced sentence if she tells what happened....like Gary Ridgeway and the BTK killer who both got out of the death penalty by admitting some of their crimes. That decision would be up to the prosecution qnd I hope they don't do it.

Personally I would like to see an "Anthony Wing" in the Orange County Jail. moo

The more I think of it, the more I don't see a plea deal happening in this case. First of all, I just don't see Casey admitting anything in regards to Caylee. I personally think it was 1st degree murder, but I don't even see Casey admitting to an accident or anything along those lines. She just does not want to take any responsibility as to what happened to Caylee. Period.

I also don't see the state accepting a plea deal either. Why would they now? They have some pretty good evidence against Casey, so why would they agree to a plea deal that could potentially give Casey a lot less jail time than the jury would give her? I just don't see a jury acquitting Casey. I could maybe see a hung jury, but a jury that votes to acquit? No. If by chance there is a hung jury, the state can always retry the case, and history shows that the retrials almost always results in convictions. If the hung jury is more than 1 or 2 holdouts, then the state can decide whether or not to try to convict on lesser charges, but I still see more prison time for Casey than with a plea deal. Also, on NG this week, one of the TH's basically said the same thing about the state not needing a plea deal because of all the good evidence that they have against Casey. I think it was Eleanor Dixon who is a prosecutor in Atlanta. Despite what Casey's attorneys on her "Dream Team" say, I think the state has an excellent case against her and will be able to easily get a conviction against her, even just based on what we know right now. I do, however, think the state has more evidence against Casey that we have not seen yet, and probably will not see until we get closer to trial.

[Dick Tracy]

If the fence at the towyard is really that high, then it makes it even more unreasonable that somebody climbed the fence and put a dead body there after the car was already towed to the towyard. I think it just solidifies that Casey is the one that put the dead body in the trunk of that car, and that dead body was the body of Caylee.:crying:

The state of Florida has a VERY SOLID CASE against the PRP... The defense will attack the forensic (LKB and Spitz), they'll attack the shoddy police work (probably the waterboy), and they plead to the jury to spare Casey's life (AL), for some reason, probably only God knows.

It all fly like a led balloon.

Justice will be served for Caylee.

[Dells]

Casey will probably be pizzed that she is no longer the "most famous" inmate.

imo

Oh no, I wonder if this will have an effect on JB's COV motion?:rolleyes: With all these things going on the world now (sadly, all these horrible things) I see the Casey Anthony case getting less and less media attention each and every day. That is unless there is a court hearing or something of that nature. But even then, the media frenzy certainly isn't what it used to be.

[Dells]

Brian Oxman One of MJ attorneys.. on NG said they were investigating possibilty different RX's by different DRS..

Wow, so sad. Sounds just like the Anna Nicole Smith case. If so, then it looks like his death could have been prevented. Hopefully, the doctors will learn something from these tragic cases.:crying:

[Dells]

cindy thought she was at a concert...she had a great time...it was bizarre and inappropriate.....and only people with a pure heart could get in.:cursing:....watching lee will make you sick.....hearing george ask for everyone to write letters of support to casey will make you sicker.....imo

You summed up very well the event that was supposed to be Caylee's memorial service. It makes me sick to think about what a spectacle The Anthony's made of it.:thumbdown:

[Dells]

Hi ya'll I'm new here...been lurkin for a while. I was wongering if anyone could send the link to the memorial service. I've been trying to see all of whats going on but have not see that.

Welcome to the boards! :seeya: So glad you decided to come out of lurkdom and join us.:smile:

[summer4meplz]

You summed up very well the event that was supposed to be Caylee's memorial service. It makes me sick to think about what a spectacle The Anthony's made of it.:thumbdown:

it makes me sicker to think they probably divided Caylee's ashes up and put them in jewelry.....

night all....what an emotional day.....:sad:

[onlykaty]

Oh no, I wonder if this will have an effect on JB's COV motion?:rolleyes: With all these things going on the world now (sadly, all these horrible things) I see the Casey Anthony case getting less and less media attention each and every day. That is unless there is a court hearing or something of that nature. But even then, the media frenzy certainly isn't what it used to be.


I don't think NG will let that happen no matter what else happens or how long it takes. The defense can only stall for so long. I'm never going to forget, I have a long memory and lots of others do also. jmo

[legalmania]

Wow, so sad. Sounds just like the Anna Nicole Smith case. If so, then it looks like his death could have been prevented. Hopefully, the doctors will learn something from these tragic cases.:crying:

It may have been like Heath Ledger he mixed the wrong pills together. It doesn't take much even if you're a seasoned pill taker. I just feel so sorry for the children and family they always seem to get the short end of the stick. No matter what his past was he seemed to love his children.
I just can't get Ryan out of my mind, what is he going to do without her? She was his life. I'm sure Redman will feel guilty for a long time, to know that he wasn't there for her last goodbye.

[legalmania]

The state of Florida has a VERY SOLID CASE against the PRP... The defense will attack the forensic (LKB and Spitz), they'll attack the shoddy police work (probably the waterboy), and they plead to the jury to spare Casey's life (AL), for some reason, probably only God knows.

It all fly like a led balloon.

Justice will be served for Caylee.

You know that we will make sure that Caylee gets justice plus.

[Explorer]

Im just depressed as anything right now Farrah, Micheal,Ed Mc. Im sooo upset.:sad:

[legalmania]

Im just depressed as anything right now Farrah, Micheal,Ed Mc. Im sooo upset.:sad:

With Farrah we expected it but Ed and Michael was a total shock. Just remember they were called for a reason that we don't understand, but there where they are suppose to be.

[happygert]

Wow, so sad. Sounds just like the Anna Nicole Smith case. If so, then it looks like his death could have been prevented. Hopefully, the doctors will learn something from these tragic cases.:crying:

I dont know if they will or not .. didnt learn anything when many drs gave Elvis all those RX's. Until the DRS are charged it will not stop But hey if you got the money you can get it legal or Illegally..

[onlykaty]

Im just depressed as anything right now Farrah, Micheal,Ed Mc. Im sooo upset.:sad:


Me too, its been a real sad day. I was never a big MJ fan like most, but its still sad. Loved Farrah..Alwas think of Johnny Carson when I hear about Ed. sad and tiring day. :sad:

[Explorer]

All my childhood buddies:sad:

[legalmania]

I dont know if they will or not .. didn't learn anything when many drs gave Elvis all those RX's. Until the DRS are charged it will not stop But hey if you got the money you can get it legal or Illegally..


It can't be stopped remember the prohibition what a waste, they finally gave up. Now with the failed DEA agency. If the people want it they will find a way. There are always going to be people with addictive personalities, you just can't control them.

[onlykaty]

All my childhood buddies:sad:


(((Explorer)))

here's a :rose: just for you.

[happygert]

Im just depressed as anything right now Farrah, Micheal,Ed Mc. Im sooo upset.:sad:

More depressed that the little one who didn't have a chance to live have been murdered.. Caylee, Neveah, Sandra, they Found Little Jada Justice dead 30 miles from station she was reported missing from..
Still not found Haleigh, nor Trenton Duckett

Sad because of FF MJ and EM.. however Ed was in his 80's ,FF cancer no longer in pain. MJ maybe from extensive RX's.. Sad because of them passing but they got to live make their own way.. The Babies didnt have a chance.. they were murdered..

[Dells]

Im just depressed as anything right now Farrah, Micheal,Ed Mc. Im sooo upset.:sad:

I am so with you. All the ugliness in this world lately is so depressing and so upsetting.:crying:

[Explorer]

Danced to Michaels music wore my hair like Farrah and watched Johnny and Ed every night:smile:

[AnniePie]

More depressed that the little one who didn't have a chance to live have been murdered.. Caylee, Neveah, Sandra, they Found Little Jada Justice dead 30 miles from station she was reported missing from..
Still not found Haleigh, nor Trenton Duckett

Sad because of FF MJ and EM.. however Ed was in his 80's ,FF cancer no longer in pain. MJ maybe from extensive RX's.. Sad because of them passing but they got to live make their own way.. The Babies didnt have a chance.. they were murdered..

I so agree with you, Gert.

[seeing_eye]

I am so with you. All the ugliness in this world lately is so depressing and so upsetting.:crying:

But you know what I think? I think it's just going to get worse. Now I'm depressed! JMO

[happygert]

It can't be stopped remember the prohibition what a waste, they finally gave up. Now with the failed DEA agency. If the people want it they will find a way. There are always going to be people with addictive personalities, you just can't control them.

Exactly.. they will get it one way or another...
However I think MJ has been depressed for a long time.. I dont think MJ was happy for a very long time.. IMO he was very lonely.. May have had billions but it's lonely at the top..

[legalmania]

More depressed that the little one who didn't have a chance to live have been murdered.. Caylee, Neveah, Sandra, they Found Little Jada Justice dead 30 miles from station she was reported missing from..
Still not found Haleigh, nor Trenton Duckett

Sad because of FF MJ and EM.. however Ed was in his 80's ,FF cancer no longer in pain. MJ maybe from extensive RX's.. Sad because of them passing but they got to live make their own way.. The Babies didnt have a chance.. they were murdered..

This has been a problem since the beginning of time, remember the Romans killing all the babies, under 2 for some strange reason it's in our genes. I don't know how to stop it.

[Dick Tracy]

Let's discuss this -

What were the computer searches (chloroform, neck-breaking, shovel, etc) all about.... Do you think that Casey had a master plan? What do you think the prosecution will use that discovery for in their case in chief?
Support YOUR ANSWER.

[legalmania]

Danced to Michaels music wore my hair like Farrah and watched Johnny and Ed every night:smile:

Sounds like you had it all covered. Was your hair as beautiful as Farrahs?

[Explorer]

(((Explorer)))

here's a :rose: just for you.

Thanks. My young ones asked why Im so upset and I told them when you get my age you appreciate those people and their contributions. When they die its heartbreaking..

[Explorer]

Sounds like you had it all covered. Was your hair as beautiful as Farrahs?

Well I dont want to brag ... but... YES I have pretty good Farrah hair.:smile:

[legalmania]

Let's discuss this -

What were the computer searches (chloroform, neck-breaking, shovel, etc) all about.... Do you think that Casey had a master plan? What do you think the prosecution will use that discovery for in their case in chief?
Support YOUR ANSWER.

It is so hard to try to figure out what she was thinking, I wonder where she got the chloroform , why would she borrow a shovel from the neighbor because now we have a witness, why would she need chloroform if she planned on breaking her neck, which if her body was found right away they would have known that was the cause of death.

[legalmania]

Well I dont want to brag ... but... YES I have pretty good Farrah hair.:smile:

Well you should be proud, she had beautiful hair, from the way it sounds you still have it?

[Dick Tracy]

Well I dont want to brag ... but... YES I have pretty good Farrah hair.:smile:

I love women with big hair.... Reminds me of the 80's!!!!!!!!!

[legalmania]

Exactly.. they will get it one way or another...
However I think MJ has been depressed for a long time.. I dont think MJ was happy for a very long time.. IMO he was very lonely.. May have had billions but it's lonely at the top..

I think it started when his hair caught on fire. Remember that. He was hurt pretty bad. I think he started to realize he wasn't invencible.

[legalmania]

I love women with big hair.... Reminds me of the 80's!!!!!!!!!

My hair is down to the middle of my back but it's straight. Won't hold a curl.

[Explorer]

Well you should be proud, she had beautiful hair, from the way it sounds you still have it?

I still have it:smile:

[Explorer]

My hair is down to the middle of my back but it's straight. Won't hold a curl.

Same here waist length.

[legalmania]

Same here waist length.

My grandmother is Native American so I got her hair, but it turns like a copper in the summer with a tan it looks really good.

[Dick Tracy]

It is so hard to try to figure out what she was thinking, I wonder where she got the chloroform , why would she borrow a shovel from the neighbor because now we have a witness, why would she need chloroform if she planned on breaking her neck, which if her body was found right away they would have known that was the cause of death.

It's very hard.. There are alot of different options that the state might take, as I see it.

Chloroform - on one of Casey's x-boytoys (RM) he had something on his web site "win her over with Chloroform" with a photo of a beautiful elegant young woman, and a man in the photo also. That's about the time that Casey was googling "chloroform". Now, do you think she just wondered what that was all about? Apparently Not. Wasn't there evidence in the truck of the car of some of the necessary ingredients needed to make a "batch" of chloroform?

Was she planning on doing the whole family in? That's been discussed. I'm not sure on this. Again, you just don't what she's thinking. I say the choroform had something to do with Caylee, and Caylee alone.

The shovel is strange too, I wonder if that is in relationship to "household weapons"?

[legalmania]

It's very hard.. There are alot of different options that the state might take, as I see it.

Chloroform - on one of Casey's x-boy toys (RM) he had something on his web site "win her over with Chloroform" with a photo of a beautiful elegant young woman, and a man in the photo also. That's about the time that Casey was googling "chloroform". Now, do you think she just wondered what that was all about? Apparently Not. Wasn't there evidence in the truck of the car of some of the necessary ingredients needed to make a "batch" of chloroform?

Was she planning on doing the whole family in? That's been discussed. I'm not sure on this. Again, you just don't what she's thinking. I say the chloroform had something to do with Caylee, and Caylee alone.

The shovel is strange too, I wonder if that is in relationship to "household weapons"?

Why wouldn't she use her own shovel. While she was on her spending spree with everybody's else's money, why didn't she buy a shovel. Is it hard to get chloroform? Maybe she thought if she purchased it over the internet it couldn't be traced? I just don't understand what a 2 year old could do that you would want them out of your life, I guess that's just me.

[Postergeist]

Why wouldn't she use her own shovel. While she was on her spending spree with everybody's else's money, why didn't she buy a shovel. Is it hard to get chloroform? Maybe she thought if she purchased it over the internet it couldn't be traced? I just don't understand what a 2 year old could do that you would want them out of your life, I guess that's just me.

the shovel-

the shovel was borrowed before the gas can theft being reported. Note that George said the lock had been broken- so maybe the A's shovel/s were in the locked shed. At this point she must not have thought the need to bust the lock for a shovel was worth it.

Buying the shovel-

well darn it legalmania- that would cut into her fun money!!!! don't think she'd want to own a shovel, and it was after Father's Day- (but she could've told her dad- hey, happy belated FD-here's a shovel) another reason, a shovel would probably not be allowed to be brought into Fusian- so she couldn't do a pole dance with it there.

chloroform- if she would've ordered it over the 'net, she'd likely be more scared of the pkg. getting delivered to her home and one of her parents intercepting the pkg before she got to it. However, she could've always used Lee's addy, or one of her friends- but then- maybe she didn't want them asking questions about "why not have it sent to Hopespring?"

imo

[legalmania]

the shovel-

the shovel was borrowed before the gas can theft being reported. Note that George said the lock had been broken- so maybe the A's shovel/s were in the locked shed. At this point she must not have thought the need to bust the lock for a shovel was worth it.

Buying the shovel-

well darn it legalmania- that would cut into her fun money!!!! don't think she'd want to own a shovel, and it was after Father's Day- (but she could've told her dad- hey, happy belated FD-here's a shovel) another reason, a shovel would probably not be allowed to be brought into Fusian- so she couldn't do a pole dance with it there.

chloroform- if she would've ordered it over the 'net, she'd likely be more scared of the pkg. getting delivered to her home and one of her parents intercepting the pkg before she got to it. However, she could've always used Lee's addy, or one of her friends- but then- maybe she didn't want them asking questions about "why not have it sent to Hopespring?"

imo

I guess your right she could have bought 2 drinks for the cost of one shovel. What was I thinking. Of course she could have used the shovel and then returned it. I wish I had a time machine so I could move forward to the trial and wouldn't have to guess anymore. Until tomorrow my love. :seeya:

[Postergeist]

I guess your right she could have bought 2 drinks for the cost of one shovel. What was I thinking. Of course she could have used the shovel and then returned it. I wish I had a time machine so I could move forward to the trial and wouldn't have to guess anymore. Until tomorrow my love. :seeya:

ack- are you saying return a used shovel (it's defective, I can't dig but just a few inches, lol) why- that's like people that buy $$ clothes, wear the outfit once and try to hide the tags inside the armpit or whatever then return it as never worn- until the clerk says HEY- there is BO coming off this dress!)

But I bet she wishes she'd done just that (recall that Cesar Laurean also borrowed a neighbor's shovel- and darn if the body was buried and burned in the pit in his backyard- but he's a Marine, more muscle)

have a good nite legalm~ I'm headed off too, a long hot day for me and just sad news for so many tonite :sad:

[seeing_eye]

the shovel-

the shovel was borrowed before the gas can theft being reported. Note that George said the lock had been broken- so maybe the A's shovel/s were in the locked shed. At this point she must not have thought the need to bust the lock for a shovel was worth it.

Buying the shovel-

well darn it legalmania- that would cut into her fun money!!!! don't think she'd want to own a shovel, and it was after Father's Day- (but she could've told her dad- hey, happy belated FD-here's a shovel) another reason, a shovel would probably not be allowed to be brought into Fusian- so she couldn't do a pole dance with it there.

chloroform- if she would've ordered it over the 'net, she'd likely be more scared of the pkg. getting delivered to her home and one of her parents intercepting the pkg before she got to it. However, she could've always used Lee's addy, or one of her friends- but then- maybe she didn't want them asking questions about "why not have it sent to Hopespring?"

imo

Not all her computer searches could have been for the murder she was contemplating. Perhaps she had another reason for searching "shovel."

As for the chloroform, she probably didn't order it. If it was used in the murder, I think it's more probable that she made it herself using ordinary household chemicals.

[Justice4All2]

Re: Jada Justice

If they didn't want to look after the child, why not just tell the mother to find someone else? This is sickening!

http://nwitimes.com/articles/2009/06/26/news/top/docd6cdf7a3632f9d20862575e1000c00de.txt

:crying:

[happygert]

Re: Jada Justice

If they didn't want to look after the child, why not just tell the mother to find someone else? This is sickening!

http://nwitimes.com/articles/2009/06/26/news/top/docd6cdf7a3632f9d20862575e1000c00de.txt

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OMG they buried her the sameway someone buried little Neveah! OMG !! copy cat.. they should get the dp.. both of them..OMG they tied to burn her body..and the mother of the sitter is taken a line from casey and cindy anthony..

Prior to authorities announcing the possible recovery of Jada's body, Castillo's mother, Rita Rincon, defended her daughter, saying information about Castillo has been misunderstood or misconstrued.
Rincon denied criticism that Castillo had been uncooperative and said Castillo and Tkachik had been out with other volunteers passing out fliers.

[AnniePie]

OMG they buried her the sameway someone buried little Neveah! OMG !! copy cat.. they should get the dp.. both of them..OMG they tied to burn her body..and the mother of the sitter is taken a line from casey and cindy anthony..

Prior to authorities announcing the possible recovery of Jada's body, Castillo's mother, Rita Rincon, defended her daughter, saying information about Castillo has been misunderstood or misconstrued.
Rincon denied criticism that Castillo had been uncooperative and said Castillo and Tkachik had been out with other volunteers passing out fliers.

Yep. Another "Mother of the Year". Or in this case "Cousin of the Year". My head is absolutely swimming thinking of what they did to this baby girl.

WHY?! Did she cry? Did she interrupt while you were doing things that didn't include her? Did she demand attention? Did she act like the 2 1/2 year old that she was? I just cannot understand why you would kill this defenseless little girl.

It doesn't matter what your "excuse" is... you can never explain what you did. This baby girl did not deserve what you did to her.

[happygert]

OMG they buried her the sameway someone buried little Neveah! OMG !! copy cat.. they should get the dp.. both of them..OMG they tied to burn her body..and the mother of the sitter is taken a line from casey and cindy anthony..

Prior to authorities announcing the possible recovery of Jada's body, Castillo's mother, Rita Rincon, defended her daughter, saying information about Castillo has been misunderstood or misconstrued.
Rincon denied criticism that Castillo had been uncooperative and said Castillo and Tkachik had been out with other volunteers passing out fliers.

Yep. Another "Mother of the Year". Or in this case "Cousin of the Year". My head is absolutely swimming thinking of what they did to this baby girl.

WHY?! Did she cry? Did she interrupt while you were doing things that didn't include her? Did she demand attention? Did she act like the 2 1/2 year old that she was? I just cannot understand why you would kill this defenseless little girl.

It doesn't matter what your "excuse" is... you can never explain what you did. This baby girl did not deserve what you did to her.

This is absolutely sickening.. They believe they killed her on the 13th. the last time mother spoke to her was on the 12th...I am just sick thinking about her last mintues on this earth.. Was she already dead when they tired to burn her? I can only hope and pray she was..
the boyfriend has burns all over his face from trying to burn her body.. can see them in his mug shots..sickos what is wrong with people?

[BJames]

Sadly I had figured there was not going to be a happy ending for Jada, I just so hope that she didn't suffer.
Somewhat like Caylee...I am hoping that we will find out during the trial that she was sedated...and didn't suffer a long drawn out death.
These folks are so sick...not only murdering children...but what is with the callous disregard for the child's suffering?
There are some very unbalanced and ill people out there...if a dog were to attack a small child like that we wouldn't hesitate to put the animal down.
Somehow the rules change when humans are the culprits of harming our most vulnerable members of society...it's so sad.


Just my opinion of course...

[BlueHeron]

It's very hard.. There are alot of different options that the state might take, as I see it.

Chloroform - on one of Casey's x-boytoys (RM) he had something on his web site "win her over with Chloroform" with a photo of a beautiful elegant young woman, and a man in the photo also. That's about the time that Casey was googling "chloroform". Now, do you think she just wondered what that was all about? Apparently Not. Wasn't there evidence in the truck of the car of some of the necessary ingredients needed to make a "batch" of chloroform?

Was she planning on doing the whole family in? That's been discussed. I'm not sure on this. Again, you just don't what she's thinking. I say the choroform had something to do with Caylee, and Caylee alone.

The shovel is strange too, I wonder if that is in relationship to "household weapons"?

I find this strange too, but here is a link about shovel as weapon:

http://www.spetsnaz-gru.com/spetsnaz-entrenching-shovel-1.htm

I'm sure it's not related, but it was interesting...