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bchand
06-25-2009, 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by no1what
Is there a recording of a phone call between Casey and TonE when she was in jail per this wire tap approval? We know Casey got his number from her brother and wanted to call but did she... and if she did is there evidence of the conversation?
Then what was the point of the wire tap if TonE didn't accept the call?
She tried to call him from jail. He chose not to accept her call. This was when she was first arrested. He had the good sense to immediately distance himself from her.
He has fully cooperated with LE. He met with Lee and that meeting was taped.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:05 PM
ITA. I don't think she stoof a chance of becoming Mrs. Anthony Lazzarro. Or Mrs. Ricardo Morales. She might have a small chance at being Mrs. Jose Baez, tho. jmo
This made me laugh!! ONLY if he gets her OFF.........!
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:06 PM
THIS!!!
I do believe they knew a lot about Casey and her ways.... as a parent I know I know the ins and outs of my childrens behaviors. They went into auto pilot so quickly it infuriates us all.
I dont feel any sympathy for G or C .... and nothing but disgust for Casey ... what I do feel is they know what they are doing. This isnt the first time, its a well practiced routine.
They didnt expect the media to take apart their carefullly planned and well honed actions of how they deal with Casey. Not a single outsider believed that Caylee was kidnapped.
I agree with every word.
I would have compassion for C&G if, after the full reality of what happened hit them ... they came clean, got humble, began the process of taking responsibility themselves, and insisted or at least encouraged the same from Casey. Shut down the fundation, admit they are in no position to help anyone. Go into counseling. Get right with the themselves, and the world.
To be honest, I would still have compassion for them if they woke up today. Tomorrow. At all.
We all make mistakes -- sometimes terrible ones. Mistakes can be forgiven. They are the ones who have lost so much, not I. What I can't forgive is their desire to keep believing, thinking, acting as they always have. It is their beliefs, thoughts and behavior that put them right where they are today. I can't forgive their lack of desire to wake up, get real, get honest, and lead a different kind of life.
O/T - Farrah Fawcett has died.
I'm in tears.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:09 PM
Good morning to all !
In retrospect I have wondered about a couple of things...
Why didn't Cindy ever ask about Caylee or where she was when she went to TonE's apartment to get Casey? According to TonE, his roomie and Amy...Cindy never mentioned Caylee.
Why did George call Lee to go over to the house when he went back to work? George told Lee (apparently) that Cindy was upset...but what was it that Lee could have done?
I honestly do believe that Cindy, George and Lee went into cover mode for Casey...I just don't think they were all on the same path. One didn't know what the other was saying/doing...hence the different stories.
Some things don't even make sense a year layer...I wonder where Cindy thought Caylee was when she took Casey from Tone's?
Just my opinion of course..
I think George was fully aware of the love/hate relationship between Casey and her mom and he had Lee go over to make sure there was no "choking" episode. I think he was truly afraid one of them would hurt the other.
I also wonder WHERE the "spiteful *****" came from. Did Cindy believe that Casey would harm Caylee to get even with her?
ITA. I don't think she stoof a chance of becoming Mrs. Anthony Lazzarro. Or Mrs. Ricardo Morales. She might have a small chance at being Mrs. Jose Baez, tho. jmo
very funny but :scared:
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:09 PM
After the 911 call and waiting for LE to arrive Cindy ask Casey: what have you done, and iirc later on we would learn from Lee that Casey told him: this should have happened a long time ago.
Go figure!!
And God knows it should have. Interesting, though, that while Casey is admitting she should have been reined in long ago, she is at the very same moment blaming others (those who didn't rein her in) for what has happened.
It is a chronic, crippling problem with this family that they always lay the blame at someone else's feet.
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:11 PM
Tia, George admitted that he never intended to kill himself that night in the motel; it was all a ploy for attention. As most of us believed right from the start.
BUT the truth did come out about that, and I believe a lot more truth is going to come out in time. I cannot imagine living with the knowledge that you've lied and deceived the way the Anthonys have. A "normal" person would have cracked long ago. We all know they aren't normal, but still... I'm hoping that one of these days one of them is going to have a breakdown and tell the TRUTH.
It'll be PARTY TIME at my house that day, and you'll all be invited over for a lovely cuppa tea. :beer:
Bold mine:
I didn't know this!!!! WOW! I HAVE been out of the loop recently!
I mean, WE already called this when he did it, but I sure did not think in a million years that he would admit it! Was he forced into admitting it or did he just do it?
TIA!
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:11 PM
O/T - Farrah Fawcett has died.
Thanks.
Rest in peace, Farrah :rose:
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:13 PM
Ditto! You just know Cindy would love to have a do-over. I believe a lot of her hostility is towards herself. "If only" she hadn't called 911.........
Hysterical utterance. I believe that is admissable in court. Cindy was NOT (contrary to what she said) in control when she made that call.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:13 PM
I agree with every word.
I would have compassion for C&G if, after the full reality of what happened hit them ... they came clean, got humble, began the process of taking responsibility themselves, and insisted or at least encouraged the same from Casey. Shut down the fundation, admit they are in no position to help anyone. Go into counseling. Get right with the themselves, and the world.
To be honest, I would still have compassion for them if they woke up today. Tomorrow. At all.
We all make mistakes -- sometimes terrible ones. Mistakes can be forgiven. They are the ones who have lost so much, not I. What I can't forgive is their desire to keep believing, thinking, acting as they always have. It is their beliefs, thoughts and behavior that put them right where they are today. I can't forgive their lack of desire to wake up, get real, get honest, and lead a different kind of life.
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:13 PM
And God knows it should have. Interesting, though, that while Casey is admitting she should have been reined in long ago, she is at the very same moment blaming others (those who didn't rein her in) for what has happened.
It is a chronic, crippling problem with this family that they always lay the blame at someone else's feet.
I am just glad that most people around the world has their number! They truly ARE the poster people for lying, manipulating psychos!
101Spots
06-25-2009, 02:15 PM
Bold mine:
I didn't know this!!!! WOW! I HAVE been out of the loop recently!
I mean, WE already called this when he did it, but I sure did not think in a million years that he would admit it! Was he forced into admitting it or did he just do it?
TIA!
Caution! This reportedly came from an anonymous nurse after he'd been Baker Acted. It has not been confirmed.
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 02:15 PM
All calls from the jail are taped.
What I do not understand is that Conway stated the other nite on TV that Cindy and Casey exchange letters thru the attorney....How can that be? Isn't that not allowed? I thought that all mail had to be screened before going in or out?
summer4meplz
06-25-2009, 02:16 PM
O/T - Farrah Fawcett has died.
oh, bless her heart.......thanks for the info....:rose:
Bold mine:
I didn't know this!!!! WOW! I HAVE been out of the loop recently!
I mean, WE already called this when he did it, but I sure did not think in a million years that he would admit it! Was he forced into admitting it or did he just do it?
TIA!
Hey spirit - from the NG show on Monday.
MARK WILLIAMS, NEWS DIRECTOR, WNDB NEWSTALK 1150: Well, you know Nancy, earlier this year he was found at a Daytona Beach hotel room after allegedly taking an overdose of prescription drugs.
However, my sources told me that never took place. He allegedly told a nurse at the Halifax Medical Center that he didn`t do it. And if he did it, it was for attention. As you know, medical records in the state of Florida are pretty much sealed.
Don't know if this is true!
imo
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:17 PM
Bold mine:
I didn't know this!!!! WOW! I HAVE been out of the loop recently!
I mean, WE already called this when he did it, but I sure did not think in a million years that he would admit it! Was he forced into admitting it or did he just do it?
TIA!
Hey sw! :seeya:
This little tidbit is per Mark Williams, the radio guy who is on NG now and then. He claims George admitted to a nurse at Halifax Hospital (IIRC) that he hadn't taken pills and his suicide episode was a bid for attention. It's suspicious that a nurse would reveal this sort of confidential information to Mark Williams or to his source.
I'm viewing this as "rumor" until we see more information about it.
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:17 PM
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
I hope that they get what is coming to them also, Serenity! I am right with ya!
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 02:18 PM
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
I agree...they acted the same as Casey...and then tried to state that they had helped LE 100% (per Lisa Bloom)....This family are the pits....
Poor Caylee.....
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 02:19 PM
Caution! This reportedly came from an anonymous nurse after he'd been Baker Acted. It has not been confirmed.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this was unsubstantiated. I don't want to be spreading rumours, but I HOPE it's true!
Originally Posted by AMS
O/T - Farrah Fawcett has died.
She will brighten up the heavens and bring that glorious smile to all that have traveled the path before her. May peace be with her.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:20 PM
I was talking about TonE, not Jessie. She sure threw him under the bus with her "I don't trust Jessie" comment.Imo Jesse made the fatal choice to stand up to Cindy. I think you don't stand up to Cindy and get away with it. I think Cindy has had it in for Jesse for a long time and this was the perfect opportunity to show him that "you don't mess with Cindy." jmo
summer4meplz
06-25-2009, 02:21 PM
All calls from the jail are taped.
I'm still wondering if we've seen ALL the tapes.....the very first one, before any of the anthonys knew they were being taped....especially lee...
101Spots
06-25-2009, 02:21 PM
What I do not understand is that Conway stated the other nite on TV that Cindy and Casey exchange letters thru the attorney....How can that be? Isn't that not allowed? I thought that all mail had to be screened before going in or out?
From what I understand (which may be suspect even on a good day), these letters would be subject to inspection/seizure *except* that in the jail they're in Bozo's briefcase so they're considered under attorney-client privilege.
Same loophole that would allow a diplomat to smuggle drugs in a diplomatic pouch.
What happens when he gives them to Cindy (not covered by privilege) - I haven't a clue.
Or, I'm all wet.
Anyway, it's supposedly not allowed, but it can be managed.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:22 PM
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
I agree. It really disturbs me to think the Ants will remain "hands off." I don't want anyone else who is watching this saga unfold to take the attitude anything these people have done is okay. It isn't. If they obstructed the investigation in any way, they need to be made an example of. imo
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:22 PM
Hey sw! :seeya:
This little tidbit is per Mark Williams, the radio guy who is on NG now and then. He claims George admitted to a nurse at Halifax Hospital (IIRC) that he hadn't taken pills and his suicide episode was a bid for attention. It's suspicious that a nurse would reveal this sort of confidential information to Mark Williams or to his source.
I'm viewing this as "rumor" until we see more information about it.
Hiya Imperfect!!!!
I see! Thank you so much for that info!
ITA! "Rumor" at its best at this time. With HIPPA laws, I don't see how a nurse could or WOULD risk her license or job by repeating anything that Geo may have said. Had to be pretty dumb to do it if that nurse actually did.
summer4meplz
06-25-2009, 02:22 PM
Imo Jesse made the fatal choice to stand up to Cindy. I think you don't stand up to Cindy and get away with it. I think Cindy has had it in for Jesse for a long time and this was the perfect opportunity to show him that "you don't mess with Cindy." jmo
when Caylee was very young and the Grund's babysat her.....and casey spent almost all her time over there...I imagine casey threw it in cindy's face what a nice family the Grund's were.....that probably made cindy hate Jesse and his family even more....imo
Tia, George admitted that he never intended to kill himself that night in the motel; it was all a ploy for attention. As most of us believed right from the start.
BUT the truth did come out about that, and I believe a lot more truth is going to come out in time. I cannot imagine living with the knowledge that you've lied and deceived the way the Anthonys have. A "normal" person would have cracked long ago. We all know they aren't normal, but still... I'm hoping that one of these days one of them is going to have a breakdown and tell the TRUTH.
It'll be PARTY TIME at my house that day, and you'll all be invited over for a lovely cuppa tea. :beer:
I don't know if I believe that he never intended to kill himself.........come to think of it, I don't believe anything these people say!!!
:biggrin:
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:24 PM
From what I understand (which may be suspect even on a good day), these letters would be subject to inspection/seizure *except* that in the jail they're in Bozo's briefcase so they're considered under attorney-client privilege.
Same loophole that would allow a diplomat to smuggle drugs in a diplomatic pouch.
What happens when he gives them to Cindy (not covered by privilege) - I haven't a clue.
Or, I'm all wet.
Anyway, it's supposedly not allowed, but it can be managed.
I have also heard that Baez inspects/reviews her incoming mail from the jail system prior to releasing to Casey. I am so confused about how that could be possible-- wouldn't the jail be responsible to deliver that mail directly to the inmate? I don't get this one at all.
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Imo Jesse made the fatal choice to stand up to Cindy. I think you don't stand up to Cindy and get away with it. I think Cindy has had it in for Jesse for a long time and this was the perfect opportunity to show him that "you don't mess with Cindy." jmo
I agree, Sandy. And it is just up Cindy's dark, horrid ways to teach Jesse a lesson by trying to implicate him on a murder.
Says a LOT about that vile woman!
apothecary
06-25-2009, 02:26 PM
I agree with every word.
I would have compassion for C&G if, after the full reality of what happened hit them ... they came clean, got humble, began the process of taking responsibility themselves, and insisted or at least encouraged the same from Casey. Shut down the fundation, admit they are in no position to help anyone. Go into counseling. Get right with the themselves, and the world.
To be honest, I would still have compassion for them if they woke up today. Tomorrow. At all.
We all make mistakes -- sometimes terrible ones. Mistakes can be forgiven. They are the ones who have lost so much, not I. What I can't forgive is their desire to keep believing, thinking, acting as they always have. It is their beliefs, thoughts and behavior that put them right where they are today. I can't forgive their lack of desire to wake up, get real, get honest, and lead a different kind of life.
I so agree with you imp.Everyone deserves some redemption and they did not kill Caylee.I really would like to see them come to their senses and do the right thing.There still is hope.
What I do not understand is that Conway stated the other nite on TV that Cindy and Casey exchange letters thru the attorney....How can that be? Isn't that not allowed? I thought that all mail had to be screened before going in or out?
I believe that Baez, along with the Anthonys are communicating in this manner, in order to keep all of their communications under some type of priviledge. For instance, he can bring in their communication, and let Casey view it during their visit. That way, the jail personel never really get to "read" any of their communications. (of course they may scan through Baez's briefcase contents looking for contraband, but actually "reading" an attorney's papers are considered off limits I believe.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:26 PM
Do you think it's possible George & Cindy smelled the decomp in the back yard and that's why they set about searching? I know the dogs hit on it and she claimed they were inconsistent, but perhaps she already knew the smell was there?
Also, to hear Cindy backpeddle on the cause of the odor has me puzzled. On the 911 call, it was a dead body, then it was pizza, then it was (in front of her house to reporters and bystanders) possible someone put a dead body in the trunk after the tow yard. She questioned the security at the lot.
Remember REASOBNABLE doubt. It is NOT reasonable that someone would kill Caylee, track down Casey's car at the towyard, climb the fence with a smelly dead body, break into the car, put the body in the car, close the trunk (without touching it or leaving any evidence of the break-in, then climb back over the fence
Towyards here have guard dogs that roam the lots at night to prevent people from stealing back their cars.Security is important at tow yards - they are responsible for the vehicles in their possession.
Cindy is jsut pointing that ugly finger of hers at EVERYONE.
BlueTurtle
06-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Aww... but they are so proud of her and she was so loving. A wonderful Daughter and Mother.
I keep going back to SPeterson and how he really didn't think that Laci missing would ever get to be so HUGE in the media. I see the same thing in this case!! Casey never thought in a million years that Caylee would become such a HUGE case instead of HUGE waste. AND I don't think Cindy or George did either-- hence their lies were going to be alright because NO ONE was really going to pay attention to this for very long. Oh how I love the POWER OF GOD....!!
This case might not have gotten so big except for the fact that she did not report her missing for 31 days. It was so incomprehensible to most people and so it got continued attention. Notice how the Hayleigh Cummings situation is becoming more and more back burner. Casey kept attention on Caylee's situation through her unusual behavior.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:32 PM
When I look at Caylee's room, and the backyard-- they bought her everything in the world leaving her alone to entertain herself.
Sure- she had a room overloaded with material things, dozens of
shoes and clothing, a backyard full of everything a child could
want-- yet no one to play with or anyone to interact with.
I don't think anyone in that family loved her-- it was a material
show and a constant war over WHO would be watching her or
taking care of her.
The entire family failed her miserably- not only in life but also
in death.
I can see Casey being jealous of all this too. Cindy bought everything a litt le girl could wan t for Caylee, and I can just see Casey being very jealous of that. moo
sydney
06-25-2009, 02:33 PM
hello, everyone!
does anyone else besides me find it odd that the a's are so quiet after they lost at the court hearing? i mean, this is so not like them. i would have expected a press conference afterward, whether or not they won - if they won, to express their appreciation that the judge didn't see fit to cause any more "anguish" to their family anymore and, if they lost, to say how everyone is against them.
wonder if that loss finally got them to believe that they are NOT above the law...
or, did i miss something recently? (it has happened before)
tia
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:34 PM
This case might not have gotten so big except for the fact that she did not report her missing for 31 days. It was so incomprehensible to most people and so it got continued attention. Notice how the Hayleigh Cummings situation is becoming more and more back burner. Casey kept attention on Caylee's situation through her unusual behavior.
I totally agree with you Turtle... I continue to hope & pray for Haleigh. I will never forget little Trenton either.
jammies
06-25-2009, 02:35 PM
Good Morning All,
Just came out of lurkdom for a moment.
Just had a really crazy thought, and I thougt I would just throw it out there..
Does anyone think, that casey may have wanted the gas cans to destroy all Evidense, such as Burning the Body??? (sorrry not to sound cruel) perhaps she could never find a " good spot".
just one of my FLB ideas that i think up sometimes.
Try to go easy on me, its still early in Calif..
JMVO....Stay well Friends:smile:
Way behind here but you have a good point!
I agree. It really disturbs me to think the Ants will remain "hands off." I don't want anyone else who is watching this saga unfold to take the attitude anything these people have done is okay. It isn't. If they obstructed the investigation in any way, they need to be made an example of. imo
ITA. At times, I just hope that LE/FBI are just giving the Anthonys lots of rope in which will be used to later hang them.
If Lyon is going to be taking over the direction of the defense, then I suspect that George and Cindy will be put on the hot seat, to try to establish doubt in the Jurors' minds. The defense will say that George had keys to Casey's car.
However, by my way of thinking, there is no excuse that can explain Casey's behavior. None.
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
I so agree with this post! Its so frustrating watching them walking free! I am hoping that LE isn't doing anything YET because they know that the Anthony's will continue to blab to anyone who will listen and they are simply waiting for them to slip up.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:37 PM
All calls from the jail are taped. Not only are they taped, but both the sending and receiving party are notified of it on every call.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:37 PM
hello, everyone!
does anyone else besides me find it odd that the a's are so quiet after they lost at the court hearing? i mean, this is so not like them. i would have expected a press conference afterward, whether or not they won - if they won, to express their appreciation that the judge didn't see fit to cause any more "anguish" to their family anymore and, if they lost, to say how everyone is against them.
wonder if that loss finally got them to believe that they are NOT above the law...
or, did i miss something recently? (it has happened before)
tia
Since Caylee's remains were found, the A's have tended to time their media appearances with space in between each one.
They're no longer jumping in front of every camera they see, nor does local Orlando media seem to trail them as much as they used to (or that's how it looks to me).
I'm sure we'll be hearing from them again soon. And I'm sure it will be just as unpleasant as usual.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:37 PM
hello, everyone!
does anyone else besides me find it odd that the a's are so quiet after they lost at the court hearing? i mean, this is so not like them. i would have expected a press conference afterward, whether or not they won - if they won, to express their appreciation that the judge didn't see fit to cause any more "anguish" to their family anymore and, if they lost, to say how everyone is against them.
wonder if that loss finally got them to believe that they are NOT above the law...
or, did i miss something recently? (it has happened before)
tia
Maybe George has a hang over from another 8 beers after his smack down in the court room... it was a lovely day with he was ask just how many times he had made media appearances recently. LMAO....
Kinda deflated his request to save them grief from media speculation.
sydney
06-25-2009, 02:39 PM
ITA. At times, I just hope that LE/FBI are just giving the Anthonys lots of rope in which will be used to later hang them.
If Lyon is going to be taking over the direction of the defense, then I suspect that George and Cindy will be put on the hot seat, to try to establish doubt in the Jurors' minds. The defense will say that George had keys to Casey's car.
However, by my way of thinking, there is no excuse that can explain Casey's behavior. None.
the only doubt i see them creating is doubt that their daughter is innocent. i wonder if they'll be able to keep all the stories straight by the time this goes to trial.
desmom
06-25-2009, 02:40 PM
o/t 'Charlie's Angel' Farrah Fawcett Dies
http://www.wesh.com/entertainment/19857734/detail.html
:rose: Farrah
sydney
06-25-2009, 02:41 PM
Maybe George has a hang over from another 8 beers after his smack down in the court room... it was a lovely day with he was ask just how many times he had made media appearances recently. LMAO....
Kinda deflated his request to save them grief from media speculation.
i wonder if brad warned him he may be cross-examined? that WAS a priceless moment! i never found out what happened after he stormed out of the courtroom, though. anyone know? did they just say "no comment" and leave?
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:42 PM
I can see Casey being jealous of all this too. Cindy bought everything a litt le girl could wan t for Caylee, and I can just see Casey being very jealous of that. moo
Casey demanded to get the same royal treatment-- when she didn't she took Dear Mother's credit cards and had a field day. IIRC she made a statement to LE at Universal about how she would lie, cheat, or steal to get her daughter. PUKE... she would lie, cheat, or steal to get away from her daughter and her mother.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:43 PM
ITA. At times, I just hope that LE/FBI are just giving the Anthonys lots of rope in which will be used to later hang them.
If Lyon is going to be taking over the direction of the defense, then I suspect that George and Cindy will be put on the hot seat, to try to establish doubt in the Jurors' minds. The defense will say that George had keys to Casey's car.
However, by my way of thinking, there is no excuse that can explain Casey's behavior. None.
I tend to look at Lyon's role as simply keeping Casey off death row. If she normally does that by explaining mitigating circumstances for a criminal mindset, such as a person's upbringing, well ... I think she's in clover with this case. Never have I seen such a clear cut example of bad parenting as Casey Anthony. She's probably also a sociopath, but she's a sociopath who was never for one second in her life productively restrained from coming into full-bloom sociopathy. If anything, her upbringing appears to have encouraged her in the direction of acting out her pathology.
martha
06-25-2009, 02:43 PM
george is in on this to he and casey never got along and now he is trying to play the good day and say things she wants to hear.how pretty she is now it is just me but I don;t see anything pretty about her in fact I can;t stand to look at a picture of her. It makes me so mad when she comes to court and smiles and is so happy and the look on her face is evil. I did not see it when they ask george how many app he had had but I am so glad they ask him that. they or making all the money they can on sweet little Caylee. how sad. c and g will never work another day because of their grandaughter. I am just glad casey is in jail and hope she stayes there forever.jmho
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:45 PM
Since Caylee's remains were found, the A's have tended to time their media appearances with space in between each one.
They're no longer jumping in front of every camera they see, nor does local Orlando media seem to trail them as much as they used to (or that's how it looks to me).
I'm sure we'll be hearing from them again soon. And I'm sure it will be just as unpleasant as usual.
I would bet all the water in my pool that Cindy remains in very close contact with ALL the media looking for something-- she has become a media and money wh*** at this point.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 02:47 PM
I would bet all the water in my pool that Cindy remains in very close contact with ALL the media looking for something-- she has become a media and money wh*** at this point.
I'm sure she's in regular contact with anyone in media who doesn't question her version of events. I'm not sure how many people that would include at this stage of the game, lol.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:48 PM
ITA. At times, I just hope that LE/FBI are just giving the Anthonys lots of rope in which will be used to later hang them.
If Lyon is going to be taking over the direction of the defense, then I suspect that George and Cindy will be put on the hot seat, to try to establish doubt in the Jurors' minds. The defense will say that George had keys to Casey's car.
However, by my way of thinking, there is no excuse that can explain Casey's behavior. None.
George and Cindy DID have keys to the car, but they had no idea where the car was. If they did, do you think Cindy would have been willing to pay a tow company to take charge of it? No way. Cindy would have just taken the car back home to teach Casey a lesson.
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:49 PM
I'm sure she's in regular contact with anyone in media who doesn't question her version of events. I'm not sure how many people that would include at this stage of the game, lol. Hasn't she text'd some local media people before. What nerve
spiritwolf46
06-25-2009, 02:51 PM
the only doubt i see them creating is doubt that their daughter is innocent. i wonder if they'll be able to keep all the stories straight by the time this goes to trial.
My bet is that they won't and will get slammed during questioning! THAT I will love to see!
I tend to look at Lyon's role as simply keeping Casey off death row. If she normally does that by explaining mitigating circumstances for a criminal mindset, such as a person's upbringing, well ... I think she's in clover with this case. Never have I seen such a clear cut example of bad parenting as Casey Anthony. She's probably also a sociopath, but she's a sociopath who was never for one second in her life productively restrained from coming into full-bloom sociopathy. If anything, her upbringing appears to have encouraged her in the direction of acting out her pathology.
Lyon most likely will be up for this challenge, and you are right... she's likely to have lots to work with in the Penalty Phase. I'm waiting to see if she is going to take an active role in the direction that the Defense will take during the trial. Will she make suggestions to Baez? Will she oversee his efforts, pitiful as they are? Are the days of poorly drafted motions from the defense, gone forever? LOL
Sandy001
06-25-2009, 02:52 PM
Since Caylee's remains were found, the A's have tended to time their media appearances with space in between each one.
They're no longer jumping in front of every camera they see, nor does local Orlando media seem to trail them as much as they used to (or that's how it looks to me).
I'm sure we'll be hearing from them again soon. And I'm sure it will be just as unpleasant as usual.
Of course they aren't talking to local media. Local media doesn't pay for appearances. moo
George and Cindy DID have keys to the car, but they had no idea where the car was. If they did, do you think Cindy would have been willing to pay a tow company to take charge of it? No way. Cindy would have just taken the car back home to teach Casey a lesson.
George admitted in an interview, that the towyard company name was written on the notice that they found on their front door. So, the possibility exists that they knew where the car was before they ever picked up the certified letter from the PO. I wonder if Really has ever driven by there and looked to see what type of secure fence that they have there?
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 02:58 PM
Lyon most likely will be up for this challenge, and you are right... she's likely to have lots to work with in the Penalty Phase. I'm waiting to see if she is going to take an active role in the direction that the Defense will take during the trial. Will she make suggestions to Baez? Will she oversee his efforts, pitiful as they are? Are the days of poorly drafted motions from the defense, gone forever? LOL
I laugh when I think about her coming on board for this battle.
She hadn't even peeked into the documentation in this case, yet she babbles outside the courtroom that Casey is innocent. Can we say another one in this mix for media attention? She has her special book coming out, and if she remains on the case, she will have another one.
Look at all the books that came out from the Peterson case.
101Spots
06-25-2009, 02:58 PM
I have also heard that Baez inspects/reviews her incoming mail from the jail system prior to releasing to Casey. I am so confused about how that could be possible-- wouldn't the jail be responsible to deliver that mail directly to the inmate? I don't get this one at all.
I've heard that, but never from a reputable source. I've got this filed under "Not Likely."
alisa31235
06-25-2009, 02:58 PM
Of course they aren't talking to local media. Local media doesn't pay for appearances. moo
well I bet she don`t like Kathey B or Nancy G and I bet they would LOVE the chance to speak with her IMO
happygert
06-25-2009, 02:58 PM
I am really hoping that LE has the plans of taking this family down for obstructing justice at every turn in this case. AND if LE does not take them down for obstruction it certainly doesn't set the standard too high for others that will copycat this case. Caylee deserves justice and 100% justice from all that deceived her. I feel like G/C deserve just as much punishment as Casey in this case. NO they didn't murder Caylee-- however they did everything they could to withold the truth and evidence to help this child.
ITA! not only that they knew what casey as capable of.. they also knew from day one that casey DID NOT want Caylee yet cindy insisted casey keep Caylee..WTH made cindy think casey would ever want and love Caylee? cindy and george knew casey was an unfit mother. cindy even went to a counselor and they told her to take custody of Caylee did she? HE77 no.. Did they protect Caylee? No IMO cindy didn't want the responsibility of Caylee any more then casey did.. cindy competed with casey and Caylee just as much as casey did theyboth had to be number one no matter what.. Yes even at the expense of the death of a 2 year old innocent litle girl.. Who only wanted to be loved..
I tend to look at Lyon's role as simply keeping Casey off death row. If she normally does that by explaining mitigating circumstances for a criminal mindset, such as a person's upbringing, well ... I think she's in clover with this case. Never have I seen such a clear cut example of bad parenting as Casey Anthony. She's probably also a sociopath, but she's a sociopath who was never for one second in her life productively restrained from coming into full-bloom sociopathy. If anything, her upbringing appears to have encouraged her in the direction of acting out her pathology.
I agree, Lyon is only there I think to keep Casey's butt from the needle.
SHe may have some input during the trial to try to keep things out of evidence or to avoid areas of testimony that may be used in the penalty phase against Casey, but the main direction the defense goes in will be driven by whatever BS Casey has fed the attornies,in particular Baez. Whatever she was selling in those first couple of days, he bought it hook, line and sinker. LKB I think will be a bit hamstrung in what she wants to do, cause I think they are going the total not guilty, she didn't kill her child route.
101Spots
06-25-2009, 03:02 PM
Not only are they taped, but both the sending and receiving party are notified of it on every call.
I have the feeling the Anthonys knew this, and thought nothing of it.
What pissed them off is the "... and may be released to the public under the Sunshine Law" which is probably not included in the announcement.
They thought they were safe.
Tee. Hee.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 03:03 PM
Lyon most likely will be up for this challenge, and you are right... she's likely to have lots to work with in the Penalty Phase. I'm waiting to see if she is going to take an active role in the direction that the Defense will take during the trial. Will she make suggestions to Baez? Will she oversee his efforts, pitiful as they are? Are the days of poorly drafted motions from the defense, gone forever? LOL
I think she'll have to work on the guilt phase (if that's the right term) right along with the rest of the defense team. Otherwise, it's entirely possible whatever they come up with as a defense, if shot down by the jury (which is highly probable, imo), will limit Lyon's opportunity to tie Casey's behavior to her upbringing.
That's why I can't imagine how a SODDI defense will work. If they serve up some other suspect and continue to claim Casey wasn't even involved, and the jury doesn't bite, how then will Lyon plead for her life based on her lousy upbringing?
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 03:04 PM
My honest opinion is that Cindy thought it was just a big fight she had with Casey and that Casey was deliberately keeping her away from Caylee to be spiteful.....I believe that it went like that for the whole 31 days....up until the car was found, then Cindy and George became alarmed but were in hope that they were wrong with their thoughts (which probably were that Caylee was deceased) they didn't want to believe it and overlooked all the signs.....BUT, then when the denial was over (which had to be within a few days) they realized that they were in big trouble and that their daughter had done something terrible to Caylee....from that point on they went into cover up for Casey mode......They became so worried about their daughter being charged with murder that they didn't have time nor the concern for Caylee any longer....it turned into all being about Casey.....
They were so engrossed with protecting Casey that when the body was actually found (it was not a surprise to them that Caylee was deceased) but they knew that meant their daughter was going to jail for life....
Therefore poor little Caylee was cast aside once again.....that even the memorial for her was done to help Casey....This family has totally forgotten about the little girl who was full of life and had her whole life ahead of her and was murdered by her own mother.....that the Anthony's don't care about...but only trying to get their daughter off.....
We keep hearing from Bozo that we don't "know" the story YET..And it will come out at trial.. Even Lions has said the same thing...
I wonder if that is when Casey throws Cindy under the bus...
I have a feeling that is why there has been such a big change with Casey. In the earlier court appearances Casey would wave and smile at her parents, now she won't even glance at them.....
Something is up, I have a bad feeling!!
MOO
George admitted in an interview, that the towyard company name was written on the notice that they found on their front door. So, the possibility exists that they knew where the car was before they ever picked up the certified letter from the PO. I wonder if Really has ever driven by there and looked to see what type of secure fence that they have there?
I thought George found out about Amscot when he went to get the car and didn't have the money or proper paperwork, he called Cindy and told her to bring Cash and the title and while waiting I thought he chatted with the receptionist and she told him where the car had been
towed from. But they've told so many different stories I can't keep it all straight.
Maybe that's their plan.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:09 PM
I have the feeling the Anthonys knew this, and thought nothing of it.
What pissed them off is the "... and may be released to the public under the Sunshine Law" which is probably not included in the announcement.
They thought they were safe.
Tee. Hee.
I am SO hoping their phones and home were tapped/bugged so we will hear more of their BS behind closed doors. When Casey was released from jail the first time, I was betting that the entire household had plenty of paper, pens, posibbly chalkboard in order to talk. Then again I can't see any of them keeping their mouth shut long enough to write a sentence. LOL
As much as it grinds on my last nerve to see G/C on television and in front of any media outlet, I get a pretty good chuckle inside knowing how that really pizzes Casey off! That jailhouse phone call about her cameo was hysterical. Fit to be tied by now hey?
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 03:11 PM
I agree, Lyon is only there I think to keep Casey's butt from the needle.
SHe may have some input during the trial to try to keep things out of evidence or to avoid areas of testimony that may be used in the penalty phase against Casey, but the main direction the defense goes in will be driven by whatever BS Casey has fed the attornies,in particular Baez. Whatever she was selling in those first couple of days, he bought it hook, line and sinker. LKB I think will be a bit hamstrung in what she wants to do, cause I think they are going the total not guilty, she didn't kill her child route.
If the defense intends to not so much mount a defense as try to dispute all the forensic evidence, I don't think that'll fly, either. There's too much of it, and when you combine it with the OC's behavior, it's overwhelming, imo.
This is going to be one interesting trial, if it happens. And I say "if," because honestly, I have no idea how Team Casey has a prayer of defending her.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:12 PM
We keep hearing from Bozo that we don't "know" the story YET..And it will come out at trial.. Even Lions has said the same thing...
I wonder if that is when Casey throws Cindy under the bus...
I have a feeling that is why there has been such a big change with Casey. In the earlier court appearances Casey would wave and smile at her parents, now she won't even glance at them.....
Something is up, I have a bad feeling!!
MOO
Can't you just picture Baez playing them real good about right now?
Keep them thinking it has to be this way? Oh my- just the thought of them getting thrown under the bus during this trial will make Cindy flip a wild and crazy nutty in the court room.
~layla~
06-25-2009, 03:13 PM
I agree with every word.
I would have compassion for C&G if, after the full reality of what happened hit them ... they came clean, got humble, began the process of taking responsibility themselves, and insisted or at least encouraged the same from Casey. Shut down the fundation, admit they are in no position to help anyone. Go into counseling. Get right with the themselves, and the world.
To be honest, I would still have compassion for them if they woke up today. Tomorrow. At all.
We all make mistakes -- sometimes terrible ones. Mistakes can be forgiven. They are the ones who have lost so much, not I. What I can't forgive is their desire to keep believing, thinking, acting as they always have. It is their beliefs, thoughts and behavior that put them right where they are today. I can't forgive their lack of desire to wake up, get real, get honest, and lead a different kind of life.
again THIS!
you really need not take up residence in my head..... you could get scared when the lights go out and you are all alone in there!!
I truly believe if they had shut down the foundation and stfu about everything publically they would have fared better with the public.... but the right fighting as Dr Phil calls it (cant believe im quoting him of all puffed up people) is just incredibly annoying.
Face whats happened and deal with your losses.
101Spots
06-25-2009, 03:14 PM
If the defense intends to not so much mount a defense as try to dispute all the forensic evidence, I don't think that'll fly, either. There's too much of it, and when you combine it with the OC's behavior, it's overwhelming, imo.
This is going to be one interesting trial, if it happens. And I say "if," because honestly, I have no idea how Team Casey has a prayer of defending her.
They pray to the great god Money. If this gets pled out, they're not going to be paid as much as if it goes to trial.
Originally Posted by *Serenity*
I have also heard that Baez inspects/reviews her incoming mail from the jail system prior to releasing to Casey. I am so confused about how that could be possible-- wouldn't the jail be responsible to deliver that mail directly to the inmate? I don't get this one at all.
Baez has stated in at least one media interview, that he screens the jail mail for Casey. And, I recall that in a jail video visit, Casey stated to Cindy that she only gets good letters. ....I deduced from this, that Baez (or a flunky from his firm) has been screening Casey's incoming jail mail, and only passing on the ones that he wants her to see. (note, the jail would of course still screen all jail mail for contraband.) Casey had to give this power to Baez, it's not something that he could do without her consent.
Postergeist
06-25-2009, 03:21 PM
Well there is the friendly invisible Zach Hawkinson...
Whom Caylee was with on almost a daily bases along with Zanny and her dog..........
right- where are the pics of Caylee with Zachery
and of course another child I'd forgotten about but Casey told her mom and of course, Cindy believed it-
Caylee and Annabelle! (that was the whole Tampa trip, car accident thing) Annabelle is the little daughter of either Raquel or Juliet (I forget which one).
I am astounded at all the imaginary friends and coworkers and bosses that Casey made up- most kids have one imaginary friend that seems to disappear around the age of 6- yet an adult Casey continued to evolve with her make believe friends that further went on to procreate of all things!
It'd be interesting to know *when* was the last photo of Caylee taken by her mother- and then how many other photos she took after Caylee was "missing".
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Baez has stated in at least one media interview, that he screens the jail mail for Casey. And, I recall that in a jail video visit, Casey stated to Cindy that she only gets good letters. ....I deduced from this, that Baez (or a flunky from his firm) has been screening Casey's incoming jail mail, and only passing on the ones that he wants her to see. (note, the jail would of course still screen all jail mail for contraband.) Casey had to give this power to Baez, it's not something that he could do without her consent.
Hmm-- makes sense. I recall Casey telling G/C all her mail is good when they were complaining about their hate mail. LOL
Wonder how much her mail increased after pathetic George ask everyone at the memorial to write her, she deserved it. ((puke))
I laugh when I think about her coming on board for this battle.
She hadn't even peeked into the documentation in this case, yet she babbles outside the courtroom that Casey is innocent. Can we say another one in this mix for media attention? She has her special book coming out, and if she remains on the case, she will have another one.
Look at all the books that came out from the Peterson case.
If the defense only realizes how upsetting it is to hear them proclaim that Casey is INNOCENT, they might choose another term. Perhaps they are looking at it from a judicial point of view, "innocent until proven guilty." Sure, Lyon threw her hat in for the publicity. She has a book coming out, and this case will no doubt provide her with material for another book. No doubt, she has experience, that that is something that will be a good thing for Casey.
I'm just wondering if Baez has yet realized that it is not so easy to juggle a case, when his numerous attorneys/experts are from varying states across the country. Seems to me, this could prove even more difficult as the pre-trial hearings ramp up.
6/25/2009 Notice of Hearing Notice of Hearing THIRD AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
Seems like someone is having a terrible time getting a hearing scheduled to fit with schedules. I still didn't see a date yet though on the records.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 03:28 PM
again THIS!
you really need not take up residence in my head..... you could get scared when the lights go out and you are all alone in there!!
I truly believe if they had shut down the foundation and stfu about everything publically they would have fared better with the public.... but the right fighting as Dr Phil calls it (cant believe im quoting him of all puffed up people) is just incredibly annoying.
Face whats happened and deal with your losses.
Imo, the public is waiting for George and Cindy to acknowledge what happened to Caylee. Each time the Ants appear in public and do no such thing, the outrage against them builds. This dynamic has been in play since day 31. It's what the protesters were about. It's what the "bloggers" are about.
The more the A's promote their fundation, defend their daughter, and continue to ignore the reality of what happened to Caylee, the angrier their audience gets. I think the public would understand and accept their support of their daughter, if they were going about things in the right way -- which is to get real.
There's no way for them to acknowledge Caylee in any meaningful way without getting real, and I don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever.
ITA with you, they need to STHU and disappear from public view.
Postergeist
06-25-2009, 03:29 PM
when Caylee was very young and the Grund's babysat her.....and casey spent almost all her time over there...I imagine casey threw it in cindy's face what a nice family the Grund's were.....that probably made cindy hate Jesse and his family even more....imo
you're probably right summer!
another thing the Anthonys weren't truthful about during their interviews- they failed to mention that it was the Grunds that seemed to do the caregiving of Caylee during the first year of her life
the A's then took over the caregiving the second year of her life.
And it seemed it was resented at times (my take on Cindy's July 3 posting online)
they need to give credit where credit is due- the Grunds had a major role in caring for little Caylee and did it safely- no harm ever came to that child during that time from what we know.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 03:31 PM
right- where are the pics of Caylee with Zachery
and of course another child I'd forgotten about but Casey told her mom and of course, Cindy believed it-
Caylee and Annabelle! (that was the whole Tampa trip, car accident thing) Annabelle is the little daughter of either Raquel or Juliet (I forget which one).
I am astounded at all the imaginary friends and coworkers and bosses that Casey made up- most kids have one imaginary friend that seems to disappear around the age of 6- yet an adult Casey continued to evolve with her make believe friends that further went on to procreate of all things!
It'd be interesting to know *when* was the last photo of Caylee taken by her mother- and then how many other photos she took after Caylee was "missing".
Equally astounding is how Casey's mother recounts all the precious stories her daughter has told about her little imaginary friends. Oy.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:32 PM
Imo, the public is waiting for George and Cindy to acknowledge what happened to Caylee. Each time the Ants appear in public and do no such thing, the outrage against them builds. This dynamic has been in play since day 31. It's what the protesters were about. It's what the "bloggers" are about.
The more the A's promote their fundation, defend their daughter, and continue to ignore the reality of what happened to Caylee, the angrier their audience gets. I think the public would understand and accept their support of their daughter, if they were going about things in the right way -- which is to get real.
There's no way for them to acknowledge Caylee in any meaningful way without getting real, and I don't see that happening anytime soon, if ever.
ITA with you, they need to STHU and disappear from public view.
They need $$$$ too bad to do anything that would be close to decent. PLUS I strongly feel they have the fear of God in them what Casey is capable of doing IF they don't support her.
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 03:33 PM
I laugh when I think about her coming on board for this battle.
She hadn't even peeked into the documentation in this case, yet she babbles outside the courtroom that Casey is innocent. Can we say another one in this mix for media attention? She has her special book coming out, and if she remains on the case, she will have another one.
Look at all the books that came out from the Peterson case.
speaking of the Scott Peterson case.. What I find very comforting with this case is that I have Yet to read 1 person that believes Casey is innocent. Where is Marlene?
Is she still working on SP is innocent? I never for one moment thought he was innocent and all
the claims from the Not guilty folks was ("all they have is circumstantial evidence") That is pretty much all we have here as well.
Thank God everyone can see what Casey has done!!
Moo
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
They pray to the great god Money. If this gets pled out, they're not going to be paid as much as if it goes to trial.
If a plea is offered to Casey, and she accepts it does she have to disclose exactly what happened to caylee at court?
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this was unsubstantiated. I don't want to be spreading rumours, but I HOPE it's true!
I would bet almost anything that rumor is untrue. I don't believe George ever said that to a nurse. However, I would bet almost anything that George did NOT try to commit suicide. He was looking for sympathy that night. It was his way of telling everyone, "You don't care about me!" (I think the pizza and beer was a BIG clue that he didn't plan suicide.)
Ellie
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
you're probably right summer!
another thing the Anthonys weren't truthful about during their interviews- they failed to mention that it was the Grunds that seemed to do the caregiving of Caylee during the first year of her life
the A's then took over the caregiving the second year of her life.
And it seemed it was resented at times (my take on Cindy's July 3 posting online)
they need to give credit where credit is due- the Grunds had a major role in caring for little Caylee and did it safely- no harm ever came to that child during that time from what we know.
(my bold)
I could not agree more. I hope Jesse has found himself a nice, loving woman to spend his time and his life with. He is WAY too good for Casey. He'll find some very lucky girl and make her happy. The Grund's are a good family and it's too bad the paternity test proved Jesse wasn't Caylee's dad or I have no doubt we wouldn't be here posting about her sad death.
I wonder just how many times Cindy will claim that she "mis-spoke" in an earlier interview, when she is on the witness stand. Or that she believed that then, but doesn't believe that any longer.
I would bet almost anything that rumor is untrue. I don't believe George ever said that to a nurse. However, I would bet almost anything that George did NOT try to commit suicide. He was looking for sympathy that night. It was his way of telling everyone, "You don't care about me!" (I think the pizza and beer was a BIG clue that he didn't plan suicide.)
Didn't the timing surrounding George's alledged suicide attempt, coincide with the depos for the Civil Case? Does anyone think that Cindy and George just staged this, in an attempt to get those depos postponed?
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:45 PM
speaking of the Scott Peterson case.. What I find very comforting with this case is that I have Yet to read 1 person that believes Casey is innocent. Where is Marlene?
Is she still working on SP is innocent? I never for one moment thought he was innocent and all
the claims from the Not guilty folks was ("all they have is circumstantial evidence") That is pretty much all we have here as well.
Thank God everyone can see what Casey has done!!
Moo
Yea, the Peterson case had quite a few not guilty posters and this one has zero, with the exception of Anthony's. I thought the Peterson Parents were pathetic, however now they seem to be pretty mellow compared to Anthony Camp. Who would've ever thought?
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 03:46 PM
Didn't the timing surrounding George's alledged suicide attempt, coincide with the depos for the Civil Case? Does anyone think that Cindy and George just staged this, in an attempt to get those depos postponed?
They already had them postponed once.. Not sure if that was their plan or not....but I do not think it would have worked twice...
I wonder what would have happened with this case if GA had followed through with it? I think GA will be a bigger witness then CA..
I would love to see the Grand Jury transcripts...
Anyone know if those will come out after trial?
Postergeist
06-25-2009, 03:47 PM
(my bold)
I could not agree more. I hope Jesse has found himself a nice, loving woman to spend his time and his life with. He is WAY too good for Casey. He'll find some very lucky girl and make her happy. The Grund's are a good family and it's too bad the paternity test proved Jesse wasn't Caylee's dad or I have no doubt we wouldn't be here posting about her sad death.
I hope so to Ellie- with one caveat- that he has a background check done on the girl's parents and any siblings she may have, maybe try to get them all in to have an MMPI test done- just screen the heck out of them so he in no way gets involved with having deeply disturbed in-laws.
Or maybe just look to date an orphan.
imo
(I agree with what you said about we wouldn't be posting about her death- if he had been the bio father, he would've stood a good chance of gaining primary custody of Caylee in the event there was a divorce)
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 03:50 PM
Yea, the Peterson case had quite a few not guilty posters and this one has zero, with the exception of Anthony's. I thought the Peterson Parents were pathetic, however now they seem to be pretty mellow compared to Anthony Camp. Who would've ever thought?
oh no kidding!! The "deny, deny, deny" and the ironing board incident will forever be burned in my brain...
But even thinking of all that....They don't compare at all to the Anthonys.
I am also a little shocked they haven't come out of the woodwork and stand behind the Anthony's.....
Remember when the hype was that Scott and Casey were writing each other?? LOL
I wonder who started that rumor?
moo
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:50 PM
Didn't the timing surrounding George's alledged suicide attempt, coincide with the depos for the Civil Case? Does anyone think that Cindy and George just staged this, in an attempt to get those depos postponed?
I thought the exact same thing at that time. Delay delay delay along with Deny deny deny.
I can't wait to see all of Casey's friends/boyfriends face her in the court room and tell her pathtic lies and what she did to all of them.
She HAS to sit there and face every single one of them. She probably don't give a ratz just like she didn't give a ratz when she used them.
Maybe- the only person that will bring an almost tear will be TonE.
:who knows: but it will be quite the show.
Postergeist
06-25-2009, 03:51 PM
Didn't the timing surrounding George's alledged suicide attempt, coincide with the depos for the Civil Case? Does anyone think that Cindy and George just staged this, in an attempt to get those depos postponed?
darn my memory, it coincided with something- and I recall that it also happened after Cindy told George to go pick out the jewelry for their Casey O Pep Rally held at the church, with surround sound.
(I've got to get up to the court house and get some tags renewed)
(and bite your tongue to the poster that mentioned Marlene- ick, ew, gag!)
They already had them postponed once.. Not sure if that was their plan or not....but I do not think it would have worked twice...
I wonder what would have happened with this case if GA had followed through with it? I think GA will be a bigger witness then CA..
I would love to see the Grand Jury transcripts...
Anyone know if those will come out after trial?
There is no doubt in my mind that George will be a hostile witness. I believe that he will not be forthcoming nor truthful when he is in that witness chair. His statements to LE, FBI, Morgan will be used, and George will "not recall" most everything that he is asked. I think that we will see a performance that is very similar to what we saw at Morgan's depo. George will "dare" the State to beat on on a "grieving grandparent." ....and the State has to be very careful to not create sympathy for George to the Jurors.
101Spots
06-25-2009, 03:54 PM
I thought the exact same thing at that time. Delay delay delay along with Deny deny deny.
I can't wait to see all of Casey's friends/boyfriends face her in the court room and tell her pathtic lies and what she did to all of them.
She HAS to sit there and face every single one of them. She probably don't give a ratz just like she didn't give a ratz when she used them.
Maybe- the only person that will bring an almost tear will be TonE.
:who knows: but it will be quite the show.
I doubt it. She's moved on to Jose. The TonE model boyfriend is so last year.
darn my memory, it coincided with something- and I recall that it also happened after Cindy told George to go pick out the jewelry for their Casey O Pep Rally held at the church, with surround sound.
(I've got to get up to the court house and get some tags renewed)
(and bite your tongue to the poster that mentioned Marlene- ick, ew, gag!)
chuckles... I can't recall the exact dates either, but you are right in the right timeframe in regards to "picking out the cremation jewelry."
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:55 PM
oh no kidding!! The "deny, deny, deny" and the ironing board incident will forever be burned in my brain...
But even thinking of all that....They don't compare at all to the Anthonys.
I am also a little shocked they haven't come out of the woodwork and stand behind the Anthony's.....
Remember when the hype was that Scott and Casey were writing each other?? LOL
I wonder who started that rumor?
moo
As sick as this is going to sound-- I don't even think the Peterson's want to be associated with this group. I do recall the rumor that Scott and Casey were comunicating, however I don't recall that to be factual. Perfect pair behind bars! Very fitting for them to exchange letters filled with complete lies to each other and how the justice system is so screwed up and against them. LOL
frances1
06-25-2009, 03:56 PM
Didn't the timing surrounding George's alledged suicide attempt, coincide with the depos for the Civil Case? Does anyone think that Cindy and George just staged this, in an attempt to get those depos postponed?
I don't know if it was 'staged' or not, but I do think that George is just as much a drama queen as Cindy.
Postergeist
06-25-2009, 03:56 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that George will be a hostile witness. I believe that he will not be forthcoming nor truthful when he is in that witness chair. His statements to LE, FBI, Morgan will be used, and George will "not recall" most everything that he is asked. I think that we will see a performance that is very similar to what we saw at Morgan's depo. George will "dare" the State to beat on on a "grieving grandparent." ....and the State has to be very careful to not create sympathy for George to the Jurors.
oh- you may be right Sun- wonder then how much the State will actually want to have him on the stand....
Baez may end up asking him more Q's than the State will.
Or could he plead the 5th?
(and I do believe I'm experiencing de ja vu, lol- I'm seeing posts pop up again from last nite- wish I had more time but have to head out)
101Spots
06-25-2009, 03:57 PM
darn my memory, it coincided with something- and I recall that it also happened after Cindy told George to go pick out the jewelry for their Casey O Pep Rally held at the church, with surround sound.
(I've got to get up to the court house and get some tags renewed)
(and bite your tongue to the poster that mentioned Marlene- ick, ew, gag!)
Good name for it. In my mind, it was the "CindyFest."
Notice how neither of us tie it to Caylee. It wasn't for her.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 03:58 PM
I doubt it. She's moved on to Jose. The TonE model boyfriend is so last year.
Yep. No more low profile Italian DJ's for the princess. The OC has scored herself a high-profile Hispanic attorney. :lol:
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 03:59 PM
I doubt it. She's moved on to Jose. The TonE model boyfriend is so last year.
I can see it now-- a real visual for me.... Casey passing Baez notes for questions to ask them to attack their character.. something they said or did or drugs... just to get the attention off of her. She will rip out everything any one of them did in front of her or even told her. All of them must have complete fear of what she will do to them.
frances1
06-25-2009, 04:00 PM
I mean I have known about those damn bears for months...but I never really put them in a child's hands until I saw Haylee tonight on NG clutching a teddy bear and waving and smiling...The knee jerk reaction I had was just pure anger...and I have also known about the damn Scamdation for months...but I never really put that into an actual real world scenario, ya know? I feel like bombarding them with a mountain of - I don't know - not necessarily hate mail, but just WTF mail!! Caylee DID NOT come home!!!
All I can think is - jesus, Casey, for once in your life - tell the truth and take your consequences! Just say you did it already!!!! so we don't have to endure any more of you or your dysfunctional family. Save us all the expense and the time it takes to find you guilty ANYWAY!! You were guilty in June 2008, and you are still guilty in 2009, and you will be guilty your entire miserable existence! With the money that the government would save from your trial, you could be housed for 100 years - because it will cost the same to feed your fat *** as the same guilty criminal in the next cell...I think she should get LWOP - I do - so she can see how the world goes on WITHOUT her - and all of us will be texting, e-mailing, partying, drinking, driving, eating junk food, watching television, listening to our favorite radio stations and going to the Blockbuster for a movie...
I for one cannot wait until the change of her current relatively easy living situation - I am sure the other inmates will be happy to see you go because no one can seem to get any sleep there what with you screaming for Caylee all night long...I pray she's booked for the "La Bella Vita" suite on Death Row - and you are lost in legal purgatory for the duration...the needle is too good for this lunatic...
I thank you for indulging the ranting - it IS what I do...
Teddy bears have been used in trauma situations with children for years (police, fire, CPS, etc). Cindy and George did not come up with something new. They're just trying to get people to make a 'donation' for their brand.
Scampi
06-25-2009, 04:03 PM
oh no kidding!! The "deny, deny, deny" and the ironing board incident will forever be burned in my brain...
But even thinking of all that....They don't compare at all to the Anthonys.
I am also a little shocked they haven't come out of the woodwork and stand behind the Anthony's.....
Remember when the hype was that Scott and Casey were writing each other?? LOL
I wonder who started that rumor?
moo
To this day I remember how I stood up and actually cheered when the Rocha caravan, led by Sharon rolled up to Laci's home in a convoy, to retreive that which belonged to her daughter.
:thumbsup:
Good name for it. In my mind, it was the "CindyFest."
Notice how neither of us tie it to Caylee. It wasn't for her.
Cindy is probably PO's because NG doesn't ever show clips from that day. Or any other news station either.
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:07 PM
We keep hearing from Bozo that we don't "know" the story YET..And it will come out at trial.. Even Lions has said the same thing...
I wonder if that is when Casey throws Cindy under the bus...
I have a feeling that is why there has been such a big change with Casey. In the earlier court appearances Casey would wave and smile at her parents, now she won't even glance at them.....
Something is up, I have a bad feeling!!
MOO
I persnally think that it is just a ploy to throw out there at any potential jurors....I can not see anything other than Casey being the murderer....Yes, I believe that Cindy and probably George brought Casey to that point and probably are riddled with guilt, which is why they are fighting so hard for Casey...But do you actually think that this could try and be pinned on the grand parents? I truely doubt it....
I think Casey can not look at her parents because she knows that they now know that she murdered Caylee and I think that Casey can not let them see her face.....JMO
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 04:07 PM
Teddy bears have been used in trauma situations with children for years (police, fire, CPS, etc). Cindy and George did not come up with something new. They're just trying to get people to make a 'donation' for their brand.
Yep and they probably cost about $3.00 to make. And they are raking in alot more then those bears cost. Just a scam. Like the KFN download of the child safety kit that you can get free.
imo
alisa31235
06-25-2009, 04:10 PM
I can see it now-- a real visual for me.... Casey passing Baez notes for questions to ask them to attack their character.. something they said or did or drugs... just to get the attention off of her. She will rip out everything any one of them did in front of her or even told her. All of them must have complete fear of what she will do to them.
I see that also if they were no problems between CASEY and her parents and her parents really believed the nanny story and that Caylee had been kidnapped and murdered by someone else they would visit her and they would be hunting the killer down IMO
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:10 PM
again THIS!
you really need not take up residence in my head..... you could get scared when the lights go out and you are all alone in there!!
I truly believe if they had shut down the foundation and stfu about everything publically they would have fared better with the public.... but the right fighting as Dr Phil calls it (cant believe im quoting him of all puffed up people) is just incredibly annoying.
Face whats happened and deal with your losses.
I am a firm believer in "face what happened and deal with it"....they will get closure alot faster then the route they are taking.....
I persnally think that it is just a ploy to throw out there at any potential jurors....I can not see anything other than Casey being the murderer....Yes, I believe that Cindy and probably George brought Casey to that point and probably are riddled with guilt, which is why they are fighting so hard for Casey...But do you actually think that this could try and be pinned on the grand parents? I truely doubt it....
I think Casey can not look at her parents because she knows that they now know that she murdered Caylee and I think that Casey can not let them see her face.....JMO
Everything that I have seen in the Discover indicates to me that Casey is responsible in the death of Caylee. However, I really haven't been able to decide that she is the only "knowing" party to the death or disposal. Those Anthonys sure all lawyered up way too quickly after Caylee's remains were found on Dec 11th.
alisa31235
06-25-2009, 04:13 PM
I am a firm believer in "face what happened and deal with it"....they will get closure alot faster then the route they are taking.....
AMEN to that and they need to go to the jail and face Casey and tell her they love her BUT they are standing up for Caylee IMO
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 04:15 PM
I see that also if they were no problems between CASEY and her parents and her parents really believed the nanny story and that Caylee had been kidnapped and murdered by someone else they would visit her and they would be hunting the killer down IMO
The wrath of Casey isn't over yet and won't be for a very long time. She will tell anything she can about her family, friends, boyfriends, and twist it into something that it isn't. Just pass the notes to Baez as each and every one of them take the stand to testify against her.
She won't go down without a fight--
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Everything that I have seen in the Discover indicates to me that Casey is responsible in the death of Caylee. However, I really haven't been able to decide that she is the only "knowing" party to the death or disposal. Those Anthonys sure all lawyered up way too quickly after Caylee's remains were found on Dec 11th.
It is my belief that the reason they lawyered up was due to all the misleading of LE in the lies they told.....(which they certainly did alot of) also I believe that they knew about the location of the body at least a month before it was found....I believe that it was Lee on the phone with Casey (the PI)....But if the PI was using a prepaid phone so it couldn't be detected then we will never know who he was talking to....unless the PI tells....
Thisbe II
06-25-2009, 04:17 PM
I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.
Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?
Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."
I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see. :thumbsup:
:seeya:Gin
Gin
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 04:17 PM
Everything that I have seen in the Discover indicates to me that Casey is responsible in the death of Caylee. However, I really haven't been able to decide that she is the only "knowing" party to the death or disposal. Those Anthonys sure all lawyered up way too quickly after Caylee's remains were found on Dec 11th.
First thought I had when I read this post was suddenly-- Cindy remembered Caylee's Poo Blanket was missing. Hmmmmm.....
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:20 PM
AMEN to that and they need to go to the jail and face Casey and tell her they love her BUT they are standing up for Caylee IMO
Agreed....because this is all about Caylee being murdered, had she not been murdered, this would not be happening in their life....and their daughter is responsible...I would stand by my child, but I would not try to cover up such an act...I would not be so forgiving...But I would stand by her because she would be my child...
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 04:21 PM
My honest opinion is that Cindy thought it was just a big fight she had with Casey and that Casey was deliberately keeping her away from Caylee to be spiteful.....I believe that it went like that for the whole 31 days....up until the car was found, then Cindy and George became alarmed but were in hope that they were wrong with their thoughts (which probably were that Caylee was deceased) they didn't want to believe it and overlooked all the signs.....BUT, then when the denial was over (which had to be within a few days) they realized that they were in big trouble and that their daughter had done something terrible to Caylee....from that point on they went into cover up for Casey mode......They became so worried about their daughter being charged with murder that they didn't have time nor the concern for Caylee any longer....it turned into all being about Casey.....
They were so engrossed with protecting Casey that when the body was actually found (it was not a surprise to them that Caylee was deceased) but they knew that meant their daughter was going to jail for life....
Therefore poor little Caylee was cast aside once again.....that even the memorial for her was done to help Casey....This family has totally forgotten about the little girl who was full of life and had her whole life ahead of her and was murdered by her own mother.....that the Anthony's don't care about...but only trying to get their daughter off.....
Barbara, I agree with everything you said except I think that as soon as C&G realized how much money they could make with the scamdation they cast Casey aside just as they had done for Caylee. Their media tour does a lot of damage to Casey's case, yet C&G continue to do it. It's the money that counts most of all to them.
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:23 PM
I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.
Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?
Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."
I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see. :thumbsup:
:seeya:Gin
Gin
Well, I for one, never thought this was an accident...from the very beginning I said this was an intenional murder.....
As for hearing from any of her school mates or teachers....I haven't heard anything...but it could be assumed (thru Casey's intellengence) that she didn't attend school too often...:smile:
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 04:25 PM
I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.
Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?
Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."
I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see. :thumbsup:
:seeya:Gin
Gin
Hi Gin!
Actually, I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't accidental. "Accidental" as in not a premeditated act of violence.
However, I so despise liars that believe it or not, whether it was intentional or accidental doesn't matter a bit to me. If Casey caused the accidental death of her child, then lied about it and continues to lie about it, and allows others to lie FOR her about it, and is happy to see others be accused of it, she is just as guilty in my eyes as if she set out intentionally to cause the death of her child.
The lying is why I feel her parents are in large part responsible for what happened in that household, and to Caylee.
I despise liars!
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:26 PM
Barbara, I agree with everything you said except I think that as soon as C&G realized how much money they could make with the scamdation they cast Casey aside just as they had done for Caylee. Their media tour does a lot of damage to Casey's case, yet C&G continue to do it. It's the money that counts most of all to them.
Oh yes, that slipped my mind for a second....this certainly has turned into a way for the Anthony's never to have to work again and be able to pay their bills...and I bet Casey is not too happy about not being there to help spend that money....
This whole family is one big mess.....
First thought I had when I read this post was suddenly-- Cindy remembered Caylee's Poo Blanket was missing. Hmmmmm.....
That is a little "slip up" that Cindy is now saying that she didn't say (according to Morgan's depo). Cindy's brain under stress, tends to cause Cindy to run her mouth.
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 04:28 PM
I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.
Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?
Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."
I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see.
:seeya:Gin
Gin
Hey Gin,
Nice to see you posting more often! I don't know a thing about what the OC was like as a child, but I'm pretty sure she was spoiled rotten, never had to take responsibility for any of her actions, was never punished for lying (who would punish her for lying? Cindy? :scared: The Queen of Liars?), had an air of entitlement from the day she was born and on and on ad nauseum.
So glad to see that you know we're not meanies on this board. (Well, Unleashed is pretty mean, but only about not wanting to share Lenny. :smile:) I hope that every single member of the public comes to know the truth about what the Anthonys have done right from the beginning of this case.
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Agreed....because this is all about Caylee being murdered, had she not been murdered, this would not be happening in their life....and their daughter is responsible...I would stand by my child, but I would not try to cover up such an act...I would not be so forgiving...But I would stand by her because she would be my child...
I think Cindy needs to see this again, and again and again.......
And remember Caylee.. She showed true emotion here....
Maybe if she watched this a few times she would remember who all of this is really for.......Justice for Caylee!!
http://www.wftv.com/video/17873279/index.html
happygert
06-25-2009, 04:33 PM
I agree, Lyon is only there I think to keep Casey's butt from the needle.
SHe may have some input during the trial to try to keep things out of evidence or to avoid areas of testimony that may be used in the penalty phase against Casey, but the main direction the defense goes in will be driven by whatever BS Casey has fed the attornies,in particular Baez. Whatever she was selling in those first couple of days, he bought it hook, line and sinker. LKB I think will be a bit hamstrung in what she wants to do, cause I think they are going the total not guilty, she didn't kill her child route.
IMO there's going to be a lot of tension with all these attorneys.. Going to be just like they were in OJ's murder trial.. one lawyer wanting to do it his way the others wanting to do it their way.. theres going to be a battle between all these lawyers then when it's over iit going to be the blame game.
need2no
06-25-2009, 04:33 PM
It is my belief that the reason they lawyered up was due to all the misleading of LE in the lies they told.....(which they certainly did alot of) also I believe that they knew about the location of the body at least a month before it was found....I believe that it was Lee on the phone with Casey (the PI)....But if the PI was using a prepaid phone so it couldn't be detected then we will never know who he was talking to....unless the PI tells....
Your post reminded me of 2 things I haven't thought about in a while, FWIW.
#1 that strange guy, I think his last name was Kovach, who claimed he saw casey coming out the woods in late June with a shovel and wearing a straw hat. He also said there was a well dressed man nearby pretending to fish but he was talking on a cell phone. DC? I believe it was determined at the time that he wasn't credible, but was he?
#2 George being spotted starring into the woods, only to later claim he was looking for a new location for the KFN, but without Dennis being with him to check out this location. hmmm....
Oh, and when was it that George had agreed to be interviewed by Murt, but when Murt arrived he said he had changed his mind and wouldn't do the interview?
Thinking back now that Caylee has been found....I can't help but wonder about all these things. So many strange occurances in this strange case.
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:36 PM
I think Cindy needs to see this again, and again and again.......
And remember Caylee.. She showed true emotion here....
Maybe if she watched this a few times she would remember who all of this is really for.......Justice for Caylee!!
http://www.wftv.com/video/17873279/index.html
I just watched it...and if it wasn't Cindy I would have found it touching....But, I don't think that I would have been able to even look at another child at a time like that...I think it would have been too hard for me...but maybe that's just me....I do believe that it would have destroyed me....
It was like when Cindy said that she had walked to the playground just to be where she once was with Caylee....I would not have been able to do that either....
bchand
06-25-2009, 04:38 PM
I am a firm believer in "face what happened and deal with it"....they will get closure alot faster then the route they are taking.....
I agree. The Anthonys are more like "what's happened, happened, let's move on and make lemonade out of lemons."
happygert
06-25-2009, 04:40 PM
I think Cindy needs to see this again, and again and again.......
And remember Caylee.. She showed true emotion here....
Maybe if she watched this a few times she would remember who all of this is really for.......Justice for Caylee!!
http://www.wftv.com/video/17873279/index.html
No this was probably just another act from cindy not buying her tears they are not for Caylee it for casey.. she knew by the time of this interview that Caylee was dead..
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:41 PM
Your post reminded me of 2 things I haven't thought about in a while, FWIW.
#1 that strange guy, I think his last name was Kovach, who claimed he saw casey coming out the woods in late June with a shovel and wearing a straw hat. He also said there was a well dressed man nearby pretending to fish but he was talking on a cell phone. DC? I believe it was determined at the time that he wasn't credible, but was he?
#2 George being spotted starring into the woods, only to later claim he was looking for a new location for the KFN, but without Dennis being with him to check out this location. hmmm....
Oh, and when was it that George had agreed to be interviewed by Murt, but when Murt arrived he said he had changed his mind and wouldn't do the interview?
Thinking back now that Caylee has been found....I can't help but wonder about all these things. So many strange occurances in this strange case.
As for the two men that said they saw something, I really don't know what happened with that, but I believe it was not near the spot that Caylee was found.....BUT, George looking out at the spot he was...to me, I believe that he deliberately did that to throw the search away from their block....They were very against Tim Miller, because they feared that he would find the body....the one thing that they wanted most was for the body never to be found, then they would be able to say for ever that Caylee was still alive, and they thought that with no body they couldn't convict Casey of murder.....JMO
imc_e
06-25-2009, 04:41 PM
I just watched it...and if it wasn't Cindy I would have found it touching....But, I don't think that I would have been able to even look at another child at a time like that...I think it would have been too hard for me...but maybe that's just me....I do believe that it would have destroyed me....
It was like when Cindy said that she had walked to the playground just to be where she once was with Caylee....I would not have been able to do that either....
You can tell she knew the camera was on her.
Good show Cindy. Its about HER.
She has done NOTHING to honor Caylee's memory.
:thumbdown:
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 04:43 PM
You can tell she knew the camera was on her.
Good show Cindy. Its about HER.
She has done NOTHING to honor Caylee's memory.
:thumbdown:
I totally agree....it's like they completely forgot about Caylee or they at least choose to....
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 04:44 PM
You can tell she knew the camera was on her.
Good show Cindy. Its about HER.
She has done NOTHING to honor Caylee's memory.
:thumbdown:
Well, you cynical little thing, CE. LOL (I thought the exact same thing when I watched it. :rolleyes:)
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 04:45 PM
Hummm.. Where is Casey's picture??
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19736433/detail.html
need2no
06-25-2009, 04:46 PM
I just watched it...and if it wasn't Cindy I would have found it touching....But, I don't think that I would have been able to even look at another child at a time like that...I think it would have been too hard for me...but maybe that's just me....I do believe that it would have destroyed me....
It was like when Cindy said that she had walked to the playground just to be where she once was with Caylee....I would not have been able to do that either....
You mean this little tale:
"I actually went to a park -- just myself, just to make myself feel like I was actually doing something -- just to see if I could see at one of the parks that Casey and Caylee used to go to, and it gave me peace, just to sit there at the pavilion and watch other children and answer my messages, but I felt like I did something," Cindy Anthony. :rolleyes:
ITA Barbara, I would have gone into total meltdown probably just from seeing that little girl. And with the cameras rolling....well sorry, I just don't trust anything about Cindy. She's a big distrustful fake IMO.
imc_e
06-25-2009, 04:47 PM
Inside I was screaming 'Let go of that child!'
If that little girl, was my child, I would be very angry.
shelkobe
06-25-2009, 04:48 PM
Yep and they probably cost about $3.00 to make. And they are raking in alot more then those bears cost. Just a scam. Like the KFN download of the child safety kit that you can get free.
imo
If they were made in China they probably cost more like $1 to make.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 04:49 PM
Speaking of books today-- looks like we already have one coming out in November, prior to Casey's trial.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-book-author-062509,0,7673530.story
shelkobe
06-25-2009, 04:49 PM
Hummm.. Where is Casey's picture??
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19736433/detail.html
She's like Jeannie from I Dream of Jeannie, she can't be photographed.
need2no
06-25-2009, 04:50 PM
As for the two men that said they saw something, I really don't know what happened with that, but I believe it was not near the spot that Caylee was found.....BUT, George looking out at the spot he was...to me, I believe that he deliberately did that to throw the search away from their block....They were very against Tim Miller, because they feared that he would find the body....the one thing that they wanted most was for the body never to be found, then they would be able to say for ever that Caylee was still alive, and they thought that with no body they couldn't convict Casey of murder.....JMO
True dat, I don't think it was a concidence that George was spotted there.
gaelicpeas
06-25-2009, 04:52 PM
Speaking of books today-- looks like we already have one coming out in November, prior to Casey's trial.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-book-author-062509,0,7673530.story
More on this from Hal the TV guy:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/caylee-anthony-mommys-little-girl-author-defends-title-book.html#more
ETA: Actually, I think both articles say the same thing...
summer
06-25-2009, 04:53 PM
Barbara, I agree with everything you said except I think that as soon as C&G realized how much money they could make with the scamdation they cast Casey aside just as they had done for Caylee. Their media tour does a lot of damage to Casey's case, yet C&G continue to do it. It's the money that counts most of all to them.
Hi! I agree with you and Barbara but there's one thing I don't understand. I believe they're paying for the defense 100% -- I think people underestimate the amount of licensing fees and donations (early on donations, not sure how much they're getting now) they've received and continue to pour in everytime there's an appearance. Even if their attorney has an interview and there's video or photos there probably is a fee paid.
And yet, I agree their appearances are hurting Casey. Or maybe not. Maybe the publicity has gotten her this high price team that even they can't afford. Maybe this publicity has kept her more comfortable in jail and will keep her sequestered even if she goes to the big house.
They're hurting her and yet they're helping her. And I think it's not easy for them to part with their hard earned money (cough) but I believe they are. Maybe it's just a matter of pride for them which overrides the cost factor. Plus they know (or think they know) there are millions more where that comes from once the case is decided by a jury.
I'm confused. :confused:
need2no
06-25-2009, 04:53 PM
Hummm.. Where is Casey's picture??
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19736433/detail.html
She ran out of gas and missed the photo session that day. :biggrin:
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 04:54 PM
Hi Gin!
Actually, I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't accidental. "Accidental" as in not a premeditated act of violence.
However, I so despise liars that believe it or not, whether it was intentional or accidental doesn't matter a bit to me. If Casey caused the accidental death of her child, then lied about it and continues to lie about it, and allows others to lie FOR her about it, and is happy to see others be accused of it, she is just as guilty in my eyes as if she set out intentionally to cause the death of her child.
The lying is why I feel her parents are in large part responsible for what happened in that household, and to Caylee.
I despise liars!
i am 100% convinced and this is why.....
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...1-2800%20f.pdf
pg 49 and 50
When searching for the word "chloroform" within the Excel spreadsheet, it was discovered that Internet searches were conducted by a user using Google search engine. That spreadsheet was filtered for Google searches only. On Monday, March 17, 2008 between the hours of 13:43:41 and 13:55:34, Google searches were conducted for the words "chloraform", "alcohol", "acetone", and "Peroxide". On Friday, March 21, 2008 between the hours of 14:16:30 and 14:28:18, Google searches were conducted for "how to make chloraform", how to make chloroform" [spelled correctly], "self defense", "household weapons", "neck breaking, and the word "shovel"
In addition to the Google searches, Wikipedia searches were conducted on March 17, 2008 between the hours of 13:53:25 and 13:58:38 for the words "inhalation", "chloroform", Alcohol", "Acetone", "peroxide", "hydrogen peroxide"' and "death". Also, on Friday, March 21, 2008 between the hours of 14:16:34 and 14:28:26 hours, a Wikipedia search was conducted for the word "shovel". Also on the 21st of March were searches using other web sources such as blogspot.com, sci-spot.com, druglibrary.org and instructables.com for the words "making weapons out of household products", "chloroformhabit", "chloroform"' "how to make chloroform", and "chloro2".Mozilla Firefox and Safari Internet browsers were also being used on the laptop computer. the history.dat files for the user "bobby"were imported into Netanalysis and examined for the same search terms as for the HP computer. None were noted.
KP1935
06-25-2009, 04:55 PM
You mean this little tale:
"I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I ," Cindy Anthony. :rolleyes:
Sorry, had to fix your quote, I only heard it like this.
need2no
06-25-2009, 04:58 PM
Sorry, had to fix your quote, I only heard it like this.
:lol: Thanks, I prefer reading your version!
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 05:01 PM
If they were made in China they probably cost more like $1 to make.
Or in a sweat shop by little kids. Hmmm maybe we need to do some digging. :biggrin:
jmo
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 05:02 PM
More on this from Hal the TV guy:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/caylee-anthony-mommys-little-girl-author-defends-title-book.html#more
ETA: Actually, I think both articles say the same thing...
Yea-- looks like they are duplicates.
I wonder what the book is suppose to be about. :shrug:
Hopefully she came here to read the links, most posts, and didn't trust NG or Lenny for facts. Oh my..............
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 05:02 PM
Well, I for one, never thought this was an accident...from the very beginning I said this was an intenional murder.....
As for hearing from any of her school mates or teachers....I haven't heard anything...but it could be assumed (thru Casey's intellengence) that she didn't attend school too often...:smile:
Even if I did know Casey in the past, I would certainly hesitate to come forward at this point. That bus is on it's way, and no-one is safe.
JMO
KP1935
06-25-2009, 05:04 PM
Or in a sweat shop by little kids. Hmmm maybe we need to do some digging. :biggrin:
jmo
That would make sense, using child labor to further profit on a dead child's memory. Only the A's! :angry:
imc_e
06-25-2009, 05:05 PM
My recently lost friend, Jimmy, was a driver in the film industry.
Hubby and I now say Jimmy is driving the karma bus.
:sneaky:
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 05:09 PM
My recently lost friend, Jimmy, was a driver in the film industry.
Hubby and I now say Jimmy is driving the karma bus.
:sneaky:
Dare I ask who or what he was driving for?
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 05:11 PM
Even if I did know Casey in the past, I would certainly hesitate to come forward at this point. That bus is on it's way, and no-one is safe.
JMO
And that's a fact Jack..!!
She is one wild tornado just ripping through lives and destroying them one by one. Yea.. I would be on the run to get as far away from all of them as I possibly could. I couldn't even be their neighbor--seriously.
imc_e
06-25-2009, 05:14 PM
Dare I ask who or what he was driving for?
Jimmy drove the honey wagon.
Hair and makeup unit for motion film.
legalmania
06-25-2009, 05:16 PM
Hi! I agree with you and Barbara but there's one thing I don't understand. I believe they're paying for the defense 100% -- I think people underestimate the amount of licensing fees and donations (early on donations, not sure how much they're getting now) they've received and continue to pour in everytime there's an appearance. Even if their attorney has an interview and there's video or photos there probably is a fee paid.
And yet, I agree their appearances are hurting Casey. Or maybe not. Maybe the publicity has gotten her this high price team that even they can't afford. Maybe this publicity has kept her more comfortable in jail and will keep her sequestered even if she goes to the big house.
They're hurting her and yet they're helping her. And I think it's not easy for them to part with their hard earned money (cough) but I believe they are. Maybe it's just a matter of pride for them which overrides the cost factor. Plus they know (or think they know) there are millions more where that comes from once the case is decided by a jury.
I'm confused. :confused:
I think the court would frown upon Mr. Baez claiming to be working pro bono and then accepting money.
no1what
06-25-2009, 05:21 PM
What I do not understand is that Conway stated the other nite on TV that Cindy and Casey exchange letters thru the attorney....How can that be? Isn't that not allowed? I thought that all mail had to be screened before going in or out?
Maybe this is what the Judge filed against Baez.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 05:32 PM
Maybe this is what the Judge filed against Baez.
Speaking of which-- not a word since the filing. Wonder what the heck is going on? Seems things get real quiet for quite awhile and then the storm hits again. Hope we hear something about this, and so many other things.
summer
06-25-2009, 05:34 PM
I think the court would frown upon Mr. Baez claiming to be working pro bono and then accepting money.
I don't recall Mr. Baez stating he's working pro bono. :confused:
Speaking of which-- not a word since the filing. Wonder what the heck is going on? Seems things get real quiet for quite awhile and then the storm hits again. Hope we hear something about this, and so many other things.
Morgan is trying to get the Civil Case moving. I see that a third attempt has been made to set a court hearing. It doesn't yet reveal the date though.
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 05:44 PM
Hey Gin,
Nice to see you posting more often! I don't know a thing about what the OC was like as a child, but I'm pretty sure she was spoiled rotten, never had to take responsibility for any of her actions, was never punished for lying (who would punish her for lying? Cindy? :scared: The Queen of Liars?), had an air of entitlement from the day she was born and on and on ad nauseum.
So glad to see that you know we're not meanies on this board. (Well, Unleashed is pretty mean, but only about not wanting to share Lenny. :smile:) I hope that every single member of the public comes to know the truth about what the Anthonys have done right from the beginning of this case.
I leave for 10 minutes.................
You're just jealous cuz he picked me. :tonguewag:
jmo
legalmania
06-25-2009, 05:47 PM
I don't recall Mr. Baez stating he's working pro bono. :confused:
I'm pretty sure he did but I could be wrong I think I even remember Dr. Lee saying he would work for free.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 05:49 PM
Morgan is trying to get the Civil Case moving. I see that a third attempt has been made to set a court hearing. It doesn't yet reveal the date though.
Delay delay delay...
Any new news out there about the check fraud charges? I know they wanted to push ahead, but haven't heard anything else.
Wonder how many more people will sue Casey Anthony when all is said and done. She probably don't give a ratz about any of this.... what's another day in jail when she 'thinks' she will be walking eventually, and when she walks she will make millions from her side of the story. <----
Meaning this is probably what she thinks on a daily basis in order to occupy her lying brain.
summer
06-25-2009, 05:57 PM
I'm pretty sure he did but I could be wrong I think I even remember Dr. Lee saying he would work for free.
Hi,
IIRC a couple of the experts said they were working pro bono at the beginning but then one of them (can't remember who, I think it was a woman) said they signed a payment non-disclosure agreement so they're not allowed to discuss the terms.
My sense is no one is working pro bono but that's just IMO from what I've heard and read.
bchand
06-25-2009, 06:01 PM
Speaking of books today-- looks like we already have one coming out in November, prior to Casey's trial.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-book-author-062509,0,7673530.story
The author WAS here one night. She posted a few times, specifically stating that the Anthonys would NOT get any $$ out of her book.
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 06:04 PM
I will bounce out of lurkdom this hot afternoon to pose a question to the board.
Has anyone heard anything about what Casey was like as a child? Any old friends come forth or old teachers to comment. She didnt get this crazy overnight. What was she like in grade school? Was she a little liar even then?
Also after following the boards and reading more of the evidence I no longer think that this death was accidental. It just took a while for me to come around.....Anyone else have to read "enough" to figure this out.
When I first began following this board.....Hell....I thought half of you guys were just MEANIES.... "those poor Anthony's boo hoo etc."
I just hadnt heard enough at the time. Twas blind but now I see. :thumbsup:
:seeya:Gin
Gin
I never thought it was an accident from day 31. And 31 days was the main reason for my belief. Add to that Casey's attitude with LE and with her family on the earliest jail tapes showed a complete disinterest in her daughter, Caylee. If the death had been an accident, then there would be some interest in your own daughter even if you had a fear of having to pay for some neglect, etc. I also never believed Caylee was missing from day 31 too. I believed, as I think LE believed, that Caylee was indeed murdered. I also think the Anthonys believed Caylee was murdered too -- and also from day 31.
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:05 PM
Hi,
IIRC a couple of the experts said they were working pro bono at the beginning but then one of them (can't remember who, I think it was a woman) said they signed a payment non-disclosure agreement so they're not allowed to discuss the terms.
My sense is no one is working pro bono but that's just IMO from what I've heard and read.
Kathy Reich.. .. pro bono my azz.. all these lawyers are not working for free...Kathy let the cat out of the bag.. she's not an attorney.. she's a forensic anthropologist
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:07 PM
The author WAS here one night. She posted a few times, specifically stating that the Anthonys would NOT get any $$ out of her book.
Oh really? I missed it. What all did she say about the book?
tia
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 06:11 PM
She's like Jeannie from I Dream of Jeannie, she can't be photographed.
Neither can vampires. :sneaky:
jmo
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 06:12 PM
Oh really? I missed it. What all did she say about the book?
tia
The back cover of Mommy's Little Girl reads
THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH, IN-DEPTH ACCOUNT OF THE CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE
When news broke of three-year-old Caylee Anthony’s disappearance from her home in Florida in July 2008, there was a huge outpouring of sympathy across the nation. The search for Caylee made front-page headlines. But there was one huge question mark hanging over the case: the girl’s mother.
• Why did Casey Anthony wait one full month before reporting her daughter missing?
• Why were searches on chloroform and missing children found on her computer?
• Why did she go out partying with friends less than one week after Caylee disappeared?
As the investigation continued and suspicions mounted, Casey became the prime suspect. In October, based on new evidence against Casey—her erratic behavior and lies, her car that showed signs of human decomposition—a grand jury indicted the young single mother. Then, two months later, police found Caylee’s remains a quarter of a mile away from the Anthony home. Casey pled not guilty to charges of murder in the first degree, and she continues to protest her innocence. Did she or didn’t she kill Caylee? This is the story of one of the most shocking, confusing, and horrific crimes in modern American history.
* With 8 pages of alarming photographs *
http://www.examiner.com/x-12837-US-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Mommys-Little-Girl-Casey-Anthony-book-for-sale-soon
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:14 PM
Neither can vampires. :sneaky:
jmo
Nor witches .. I'm leaning more to the witch and then you can change the first letter that describes casey also..
summer
06-25-2009, 06:14 PM
Kathy Reich.. .. pro bono my azz.. all these lawyers are not working for free...Kathy let the cat out of the bag.. she's not an attorney.. she's a forensic anthropologist
Thanks for validating my memory, happygert!
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 06:14 PM
I leave for 10 minutes.................
You're just jealous cuz he picked me. :tonguewag:
jmo
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:15 PM
The back cover of Mommy's Little Girl reads
THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH, IN-DEPTH ACCOUNT OF THE CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE
When news broke of three-year-old Caylee Anthony’s disappearance from her home in Florida in July 2008, there was a huge outpouring of sympathy across the nation. The search for Caylee made front-page headlines. But there was one huge question mark hanging over the case: the girl’s mother.
• Why did Casey Anthony wait one full month before reporting her daughter missing?
• Why were searches on chloroform and missing children found on her computer?
• Why did she go out partying with friends less than one week after Caylee disappeared?
As the investigation continued and suspicions mounted, Casey became the prime suspect. In October, based on new evidence against Casey—her erratic behavior and lies, her car that showed signs of human decomposition—a grand jury indicted the young single mother. Then, two months later, police found Caylee’s remains a quarter of a mile away from the Anthony home. Casey pled not guilty to charges of murder in the first degree, and she continues to protest her innocence. Did she or didn’t she kill Caylee? This is the story of one of the most shocking, confusing, and horrific crimes in modern American history.
* With 8 pages of alarming photographs *
http://www.examiner.com/x-12837-US-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Mommys-Little-Girl-Casey-Anthony-book-for-sale-soon
Thank you. Wonder if she knows more then we do? :biggrin:
jmo
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 06:15 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
Grand Jury transcript
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 06:16 PM
The author WAS here one night. She posted a few times, specifically stating that the Anthonys would NOT get any $$ out of her book.
DANG... I missed all of the action...!! What was she like and what was her nic? I'd like to read up on those posts. I did read in the link/article that this book has nothing to do with the Anthony's getting money.
Sure does plant a seed for them (C&G) to hurry and find someone to write a book about their side for some quick cash.
Thanks for the heads up.
summer
06-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
There was a first phone call with Lee and Casey at the jail, referred to in the second call which I would LOVE to hear.
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Thanks for validating my memory, happygert!
your welcome sometimes I have a brain freeze too..
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Delay delay delay...
Any new news out there about the check fraud charges? I know they wanted to push ahead, but haven't heard anything else.
Wonder how many more people will sue Casey Anthony when all is said and done. She probably don't give a ratz about any of this.... what's another day in jail when she 'thinks' she will be walking eventually, and when she walks she will make millions from her side of the story. <----
Meaning this is probably what she thinks on a daily basis in order to occupy her lying brain.
I think we FLABs should begin a class action suit against her for wasting our time and causing us to be even FLABbiers due to all the time we've spent sitting at our computers waiting for her to fess up. (Gasp, that was a long sentence... but not as long as Casey's is gonna be. :laugh: Sometimes I just kill me!)
margaritaville
06-25-2009, 06:18 PM
Thank you. Wonder if she knows more then we do? :biggrin:
jmo
No way!! That would be impossible!
(obviously this book will be nothing more then reading newspaper articles, court docs and autposy reports written in a book format)
IMHO
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
The Grand Jury Transcript
bchand
06-25-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh really? I missed it. What all did she say about the book?
tia
She said it will be out in Nov. and that she writes about many true crimes. (She wrote about the nutty astronaut too.)
I have her site bookmarked now.
www.dianefanning.com
I also found an interview she did back in January about the book and the case. One point that I caught in that interview is that she thinks LE left the car at the Anthony home too long. I totally disagree with that. Once Yuri noticed the smell, he took steps to have that car impounded. That was just Cindy's BS IIRC and they called her on it in some other interview.
Here's the interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/01/12/The-Levi-Page-Show
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 06:20 PM
Thank you. Wonder if she knows more then we do? :biggrin:
jmo
That would be impossible. :w00t:
ETA: I owe you a Coke, Margaritaville!
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:20 PM
No way!! That would be impossible!
(obviously this book will be nothing more then reading newspaper articles, court docs and autposy reports written in a book format)
IMHO
That's what I figure too unless she got some school friends of Casey's to talk or relatives. :w00t:
I would like to see the maggot evidence.
jmo
legalmania
06-25-2009, 06:21 PM
Hi,
IIRC a couple of the experts said they were working pro bono at the beginning but then one of them (can't remember who, I think it was a woman) said they signed a payment non-disclosure agreement so they're not allowed to discuss the terms.
My sense is no one is working pro bono but that's just IMO from what I've heard and read.
I'm trying to find something where he said he would take it pro bono, I'll send a link if I can.
Chardonnay
06-25-2009, 06:21 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
The sealed jail house video and the GJ transcripts.
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:21 PM
Grand Jury transcript
I'll second that.. but I guess we'll have to wait and see what george said when trial comes.. Im sure what he said was a doozie.. dont he realize the pros will also use that against him when he starts his lies on the witness stand.. maybe divorce court after what he said hits the court room..
bchand
06-25-2009, 06:22 PM
DANG... I missed all of the action...!! What was she like and what was her nic? I'd like to read up on those posts. I did read in the link/article that this book has nothing to do with the Anthony's getting money.
Sure does plant a seed for them (C&G) to hurry and find someone to write a book about their side for some quick cash.
Thanks for the heads up.
Her poster name her is ttw.
You can search for her posts. I think she only has about 4 to 6.
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:23 PM
She said it will be out in Nov. and that she writes about many true crimes. (She wrote about the nutty astronaut too.)
I have her site bookmarked now.
www.dianefanning.com
I also found an interview she did back in January about the book and the case. One point that I caught in that interview is that she thinks LE left the car at the Anthony home too long. I totally disagree with that. Once Yuri noticed the smell, he took steps to have that car impounded. That was just Cindy's BS IIRC and they called her on it in some other interview.
Here's the interview.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage/2009/01/12/The-Levi-Page-Show
Thanks. Oh I agree about the car. Wasn't 2 days as Cindy wants us to believe. The car had already been cleaned anyway. imo jmo
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 06:23 PM
Her poster name her is ttw.
You can search for her posts. I think she only has about 4 to 6.
Thank you so much.
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 06:23 PM
DANG... I missed all of the action...!! What was she like and what was her nic? I'd like to read up on those posts. I did read in the link/article that this book has nothing to do with the Anthony's getting money.
Sure does plant a seed for them (C&G) to hurry and find someone to write a book about their side for some quick cash.
Thanks for the heads up.
I truly believe that a book is in the making, George and Cindy would not pass up such an opportunity....
I bet al they think about is the money they will be making over poor Caylee...
And I doubt that Ms. Lyons or LKB will be able to keep them out of the media....they love it too much...
Chardonnay
06-25-2009, 06:24 PM
I think we FLABs should begin a class action suit against her for wasting our time and causing us to be even FLABbiers due to all the time we've spent sitting at our computers waiting for her to fess up. (Gasp, that was a long sentence... but not as long as Casey's is gonna be. :laugh: Sometimes I just kill me!)
You kill me too !! Great post! :thumbsup:
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:24 PM
o/t my local news just said they took Michael Jackson to the hospital with cardiac arrest. Said the EMT's had to do CPR. Family rushing to his side. In Los Angeles.
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:26 PM
I truly believe that a book is in the making, George and Cindy would not pass up such an opportunity....
I bet al they think about is the money they will be making over poor Caylee...
And I doubt that Ms. Lyons or LKB will be able to keep them out of the media....they love it too much...
Oh I agree. I bet there is pictures we have never seen also. Will be used in the book. Seems like I remember Casey saying she had pictures of Caylee she didn't want to release to the press back when Caylee was missing because they were near and dear to her heart. :rolleyes:
Anyone remember that?
jmo
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 06:27 PM
Neither can vampires. :sneaky:
jmo
:lol: I love it......
summer
06-25-2009, 06:27 PM
o/t my local news just said they took Michael Jackson to the hospital with cardiac arrest. Said the EMT's had to do CPR. Family rushing to his side. In Los Angeles.
His poor kids. What a messed up life.
o/t my local news just said they took Michael Jackson to the hospital with cardiac arrest. Said the EMT's had to do CPR. Family rushing to his side. In Los Angeles.
Just came through on my CNN breaking news emails. No details.
imo
enigma™
06-25-2009, 06:28 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
Well, since everyone wants to read the GJ transcripts (me included), and I know they would be shared, I will go second tier and ask to read Geo & Sin's "suicide notes".
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Oh I agree. I bet there is pictures we have never seen also. Will be used in the book. Seems like I remember Casey saying she had pictures of Caylee she didn't want to release to the press back when Caylee was missing because they were near and dear to her heart. :rolleyes:
Anyone remember that?
jmo
Yes, I remember...she's saving them for the highest bidder.....
This family is like looking at a bunch of clones....how are they going to get along with one going to jail for ever (or worse)...?
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
The prosecution's opening statement. :laugh:
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:32 PM
Well, since everyone wants to read the GJ transcripts (me included), and I know they would be shared, I will go second tier and ask to read Geo & Sin's "suicide notes".
LOL ..... roflmao..:lol: cant commit suicide with empty pill bottles and a six pack.. .. besides that I dont know man who could commit suicide with a six pack and a pizza.. of what ever he ate.. No suicide attempt.. it was an attempt to get media from talking about casey..
trich
06-25-2009, 06:35 PM
I'm pretty sure he did but I could be wrong I think I even remember Dr. Lee saying he would work for free.
There should be a law about paying "experts" who have no business being called experts to start with.
Anyone who would pay for Lee's services should be checked for brain damage. IMO
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 06:36 PM
I think we FLABs should begin a class action suit against her for wasting our time and causing us to be even FLABbiers due to all the time we've spent sitting at our computers waiting for her to fess up. (Gasp, that was a long sentence... but not as long as Casey's is gonna be. :laugh: Sometimes I just kill me!)
Me, too! :laugh:
enigma™
06-25-2009, 06:36 PM
LOL ..... roflmao..:lol: cant commit suicide with empty pill bottles and a six pack.. .. besides that I dont know man who could commit suicide with a six pack and a pizza.. of what ever he ate.. No suicide attempt.. it was an attempt to get media from talking about casey..
I KNOW! That's why I want to see what his "final" words were. :thumbsup:
Barbara fl.
06-25-2009, 06:37 PM
The prosecution's opening statement. :laugh:
:laugh: also the sentencing.....
Wonder whats going to happen at the impact statements....Which side would the Anthony's be giving them for?
My bet is Casey...because they already forgot about poor Caylee......
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 06:37 PM
I truly believe that a book is in the making, George and Cindy would not pass up such an opportunity....
I bet al they think about is the money they will be making over poor Caylee...
And I doubt that Ms. Lyons or LKB will be able to keep them out of the media....they love it too much...
Oh yea, they are liking the limelight, limo's, hotels, free airfare, good food, and NOT having to go back to work. They have had this media lifestyle for nearly a year now, they can't see this going away too soon for them. George is probably in hog heaven since Cindy is finally off his case to get a job. lol
Caylee will win in the end-- no doubt in my mind at all.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 06:42 PM
:laugh: also the sentencing.....
Wonder whats going to happen at the impact statements....Which side would the Anthony's be giving them for?
My bet is Casey...because they already forgot about poor Caylee......
I keep thinking Rick will be the only to climb out of the woodwork and speak for Caylee. I don't even think Cindy's Mother could do that because of Cindy. jmo
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 06:43 PM
The author WAS here one night. She posted a few times, specifically stating that the Anthonys would NOT get any $$ out of her book.
Right, bchand. Good memory. :thumbsup: I didn't make the connection. She was TTW or something similar? I know it was 3 letters, started with T, but wasn't ttcRider.
JMO
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 06:46 PM
Right, bchand. Good memory. :thumbsup: I didn't make the connection. She was TTW or something similar? I know it was 3 letters, started with T, but wasn't ttcRider.
JMO
Ttw ot ttr, wasn't it?
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:46 PM
O/T my news is reporting Michael Jackson has died. :scared:
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:47 PM
I KNOW! That's why I want to see what his "final" words were. :thumbsup:
I'm betting the paper was brought from home and g & c wrote the letter together.. don't write a suicide note that was 5 to 8 pages and leave it in the car if you wrote it in motel room.. Oh wait george does..
Wonder what we're in store for when the trial starts? Maybe he'll fake a heart attack on the stand to get out of testifying..
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:48 PM
O?T my news is reporting Michael Jackson has died. :scared:
Mine hasn't.. watching HLN..
missinglink
06-25-2009, 06:50 PM
Humm heard that my first thought was I wonder if some other little boys family is after him..
Sitting on my hands here...
I don't want anyone to die but his nose looked like it started decomposing years ago.
I'm probably going to get banned for that but it was worth it. He makes me sick.
See you all in the next life.
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:51 PM
Mine hasn't.. watching HLN..
I know I just flipped it over. TMZ is reporting he died also.
This was my local news.
jmo
enigma™
06-25-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm betting the paper was brought from home and g & c wrote the letter together.. don't write a suicide note that was 5 to 8 pages and leave it in the car if you wrote it in motel room.. Oh wait george does..
Wonder what we're in store for when the trial starts? Maybe he'll fake a heart attack on the stand to get out of testifying..
Anything is possible within the realm of Anthony. I do agree, 5-8 pages is a big much for a farewell. Diarrhea of the mouth?
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 06:52 PM
I KNOW! That's why I want to see what his "final" words were. :thumbsup:
"I'm full. And drunk."
happygert
06-25-2009, 06:53 PM
I know I just flipped it over. TMZ is reporting he died also.
This was my local news.
jmo
Humm mine said he wasn't breathing when the medics arrived by the way they talked he was still alive..
Maybe he did..
legalmania
06-25-2009, 06:53 PM
There should be a law about paying "experts" who have no business being called experts to start with.
Anyone who would pay for Lee's services should be checked for brain damage. IMO
I can see getting paid for your cost, I was called as an expert a couple of times because of the research I had to do in certain cases, but I only charged what I would have made on a regular day plus my cost like gas. Somebody like Lee is not an expert he is just a witness.
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 06:54 PM
Hi! I agree with you and Barbara but there's one thing I don't understand. I believe they're paying for the defense 100% -- I think people underestimate the amount of licensing fees and donations (early on donations, not sure how much they're getting now) they've received and continue to pour in everytime there's an appearance. Even if their attorney has an interview and there's video or photos there probably is a fee paid.
And yet, I agree their appearances are hurting Casey. Or maybe not. Maybe the publicity has gotten her this high price team that even they can't afford. Maybe this publicity has kept her more comfortable in jail and will keep her sequestered even if she goes to the big house.
They're hurting her and yet they're helping her. And I think it's not easy for them to part with their hard earned money (cough) but I believe they are. Maybe it's just a matter of pride for them which overrides the cost factor. Plus they know (or think they know) there are millions more where that comes from once the case is decided by a jury.
I'm confused. :confused:
I am not convinced the Anthonys are paying for Casey's defense.
5boxersmom
06-25-2009, 06:55 PM
Humm mine said he wasn't breathing when the medics arrived by the way they talked he was still alive..
Maybe he did..
Time will tell I guess. This reminds me so much of when Anna Nicole died.
jmo
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 06:55 PM
"I'm full. And drunk."
:laugh::laugh: He could probably still squeak out, "Keep her away!"
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 06:56 PM
:laugh: also the sentencing.....
Wonder whats going to happen at the impact statements....Which side would the Anthony's be giving them for?
My bet is Casey...because they already forgot about poor Caylee......
Interestingly, impact statements are usually considered the victim's family's one opportunity to be heard.
I suspect no one will want to hear another word from the Anthonys by that time.
I know I just flipped it over. TMZ is reporting he died also.
This was my local news.
jmo
I read earlier today this was the eve of his comeback tour.
imo
enigma™
06-25-2009, 06:57 PM
"I'm full. And drunk."
That is probably exactly what took 8 pages to spew. Oh woe is Geo. :rolleyes:
happygert
06-25-2009, 07:00 PM
some reporting he did some saying he didnt.. I'm guessing TMZ and your local channel is right.. probably waiting until all family is notified..all talking in past tense..
happygert
06-25-2009, 07:03 PM
I am not convinced the Anthonys are paying for Casey's defense.
Caylee's paying for her defense.. She's selling everything she can get her hands on..Now isn't that something.. Murder your child then sell everything you can of hers so she can pay for the best known experts..
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 07:03 PM
some reporting he did some saying he didnt.. I'm guessing TMZ and your local channel is right.. probably waiting until all family is notified..all talking in past tense..
I wrote and erased but will add my caveat; that CPR is only effective less than 5% of the time. (The caveat is not to let this prevent you from performing CPR. If the person you do the CPR on is on of those lucky 5%, it's worth it!) Anyway, it doesn't look good for life.
ETA: Spelling.
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 07:05 PM
The back cover of Mommy's Little Girl reads
THE FIRST FULL-LENGTH, IN-DEPTH ACCOUNT OF THE CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE
When news broke of three-year-old Caylee Anthony’s disappearance from her home in Florida in July 2008, there was a huge outpouring of sympathy across the nation. The search for Caylee made front-page headlines. But there was one huge question mark hanging over the case: the girl’s mother.
• Why did Casey Anthony wait one full month before reporting her daughter missing?
• Why were searches on chloroform and missing children found on her computer?
• Why did she go out partying with friends less than one week after Caylee disappeared?
As the investigation continued and suspicions mounted, Casey became the prime suspect. In October, based on new evidence against Casey—her erratic behavior and lies, her car that showed signs of human decomposition—a grand jury indicted the young single mother. Then, two months later, police found Caylee’s remains a quarter of a mile away from the Anthony home. Casey pled not guilty to charges of murder in the first degree, and she continues to protest her innocence. Did she or didn’t she kill Caylee? This is the story of one of the most shocking, confusing, and horrific crimes in modern American history.
* With 8 pages of alarming photographs *
http://www.examiner.com/x-12837-US-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m6d12-Mommys-Little-Girl-Casey-Anthony-book-for-sale-soon
Why does the back cover of this book state that the police found Caylee's remains? I hope the contents of the book has more factual information.
legalmania
06-25-2009, 07:06 PM
some reporting he did some saying he didnt.. I'm guessing TMZ and your local channel is right.. probably waiting until all family is notified..all talking in past tense..
CNN has him still alive as of 14 minutes ago. They have Farah, Michael and Jon and Kate what is wrong with this picture.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 07:09 PM
Mine hasn't.. watching HLN..
TMZ.com is reporting he's gone.
ETA: http://www.tmz.com/
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 07:09 PM
Pfffftttt... in your little world... :rolleyes:
Here's a little question for y'all (said in my best Texas accent, eh?)...
* If you could have any doc released today, what would it be?
Texans don't say 'eh', eh?
George's GJ testimony.
JMO
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 07:10 PM
Texans don't say 'eh', eh?
George's GJ testimony.
JMO
Huh? :confused::laugh:
legalmania
06-25-2009, 07:11 PM
TMZ.com is reporting he's gone.
ETA: http://www.tmz.com/
He's in a coma, not breathing.
happygert
06-25-2009, 07:13 PM
CNN has him still alive as of 14 minutes ago. They have Farah, Michael and Jon and Kate what is wrong with this picture.
reporting now that he's in a coma...on msnbc
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 07:14 PM
He's in a coma, not breathing.
Link? :confused:
ETA: This reporting is unreal. TMZ has him dead and gone. HLN isn't reporting that he's dead.
seeing_eye
06-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Well, since everyone wants to read the GJ transcripts (me included), and I know they would be shared, I will go second tier and ask to read Geo & Sin's "suicide notes".
Sin's "suicide notes" are like the nanny -- they're invisible! :rolleyes:
CHITCHAT
06-25-2009, 07:18 PM
What a shock what a shocking day...farrah in the morning and michael in the afternoon...may they go in peace.
I wrote a question this am but I can not find it. dont know what happened.
The tape that was around the babies head. I heard in maltipol layers...is that correct? I know it was wrapped around the head..was any tape wrapped from under the chin over the head?
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 07:18 PM
Link? :confused:
ETA: This reporting is unreal. TMZ has him dead and gone. HLN isn't reporting that he's dead.
Everyone's quick to scoop.
*Serenity*
06-25-2009, 07:20 PM
Link? :confused:
ETA: This reporting is unreal. TMZ has him dead and gone. HLN isn't reporting that he's dead.
No kidding-- is he dead or alive?
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 07:20 PM
What a shock what a shocking day...farrah in the morning and michael in the afternoon...may they go in peace.
I wrote a question this am but I can not find it. dont know what happened.
The tape that was around the babies head. I heard in maltipol layers...is that correct? I know it was wrapped around the head..was any tape wrapped from under the chin over the head?
Apparently multiple layers from over the mouth and nose and back CC. Not over and under. (Tough day, huh? :crying:)
enigma™
06-25-2009, 07:22 PM
Everyone's quick to scoop.
CNN reporting he is in a coma. (sorry for the O/T, which seems to be the T).
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1&iref=lb100
KP1935
06-25-2009, 07:24 PM
LA Times confirming he has passed away. :ohmy:
Lavinia
06-25-2009, 07:27 PM
CNN reporting he is in a coma. (sorry for the O/T, which seems to be the T).
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1&iref=lb100
CNN just reporting, but not confirmed, he died. (Whatever the heck that means.)
enigma™
06-25-2009, 07:27 PM
LA Times confirming he has passed away. :ohmy:
CNN is trying to confirm, but it has been reported that he has died.
enigma™
06-25-2009, 07:28 PM
CNN just reporting, but not confirmed, he died. (Whatever the heck that means.)
Yes, what you said! It appears they are looking for independent confirmation.
Imperfect4
06-25-2009, 07:28 PM
Looks like TMZ is preparing to air a presser on MJ. http://www.tmz.com/
Unleashed
06-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Well, since everyone wants to read the GJ transcripts (me included), and I know they would be shared, I will go second tier and ask to read Geo & Sin's "suicide notes".
YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!!
um...I mean ITA.
jmo
AnniePie
06-25-2009, 07:30 PM
Texans don't say 'eh', eh?
George's GJ testimony.
JMO
I was pretending to be a Canadian Texan, eh? :huh:
I'd like to see that too!
ETA: Is anyone else having a problem with the board being extremely slooooooooowwwwww?
LA Times confirming he has passed away. :ohmy:
Michael Jackson Is Dead
http://www.latimes.com/
trich
06-25-2009, 07:33 PM
CNN is trying to confirm, but it has been reported that he has died.
I just heard that on my local news.
summer4meplz
06-25-2009, 07:34 PM
what a sad day./....rest in peace Farrah and Michael.....:rose::rose:
Chardonnay
06-25-2009, 07:39 PM
I was pretending to be a Canadian Texan, eh? :huh:
I'd like to see that too!
ETA: Is anyone else having a problem with the board being extremely slooooooooowwwwww?
Yessssssssss...!! I thought it was my computer...
I'm thinking Cindy logged on here to read and gave us a virus..:tonguewag:
101Spots
06-25-2009, 07:39 PM
I'm trying to find something where he said he would take it pro bono, I'll send a link if I can.
I remember a poster ~months~ ago saying that Henry Lee had his fee paid to his charity/foundation so he could *claim* that he was working pro bono.
No link, no verification.
But it makes sense to me.
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