Wednesday June 24/09 #1

[ellegna]

Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=cayle (http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle)

:rose:

Caylee's Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/Gue...onId=121581033 (http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033)



:rose:

[ellegna]

Prosecutors Want Casey Anthony to Face Check Fraud Charges Before Murder Trial

Prosecutors have asked that the Florida mother charged with killing her daughter face check fraud charges before she goes on trial in the murder case.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528603,00.html

[Explorer]

Hi everyone this has been bugging me since last night. On Nany Grace they said They are going back to do a toxology report on the Coleman victims. Baden did the autopsy. I smell something fishy here. Is Baden associated with the Coleman defense lawyers?

[Explorer]

Prosecutors Want Casey Anthony to Face Check Fraud Charges Before Murder Trial

Prosecutors have asked that the Florida mother charged with killing her daughter face check fraud charges before she goes on trial in the murder case.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528603,00.html


Is there a time limit on when she can be charged. They are probably trying to run out the clock. Delay the murder case until the statute runs out.

[Postergeist]

Morning All~

question- does anyone know if the A's made any attempts to try to make money from Caylee during her short life legitimately?

It's been on my mind recently that they have been so industrious to try to bring in funds during the time that she was reported "missing" by them and it continues to the present day-

they all seemed to be hurting for money while she was alive, did any of them try to get Caylee into child modeling, print ads, local beauty contests, etc.?

[damienstoy]

Is there a time limit on when she can be charged. They are probably trying to run out the clock. Delay the murder case until the statute runs out.

Just the opposite, I'd think. There is no statute of limitations on murder, but there is on the fraud charges. They want to get her while they still can! :thumbsup:

[Postergeist]

Hi everyone this has been bugging me since last night. On Nany Grace they said They are going back to do a toxology report on the Coleman victims. Baden did the autopsy. I smell something fishy here. Is Baden associated with the Coleman defense lawyers?


this cached article from May said he "reviewed" material related to the case "at the request of the police".

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:s7luH_2uMbEJ:www.bnd.com/news/crime/story/778619.html+baden+coleman&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

eta link

[8BellesFan]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

holy crap, Batman!

[desmom]

One year ago today....June 24, 2008

George & Cindy Anthony’s shed burglarized. George files a report with OCSO.
http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.28.08_burg lary.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

George told Brian Burner’s son someone broke into their shed.
Page 11 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/12%20Brian%20Brown%20July%2030,%202008.pdf

Troy Brown received a facebook message from Casey at 12:40 p.m. “Hell, in the past nine days I haven’t even been living at the house. Drama. I’ll fill you in on it later.”
Page 140 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

Casey enters the house through the garage door at approximately 2:20 p.m. George told her about the gas cans being stolen.
Page 35 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036330/2008-0724-Police-Interview-George-Anthony
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html?sPage=fnc/ontherecord/caylee

Text Messages between Casey and Amy http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Casey to Amy 06/24 2:12 p.m.: Leaving work in a few. I’ll call you on my way to the house.

Amy to Casey: Okie.

Casey to Amy 06/24 3:39 p.m.: Don’t buy the whole store!

Amy to Casey: But I wanna!

Casey to Amy 06/24 3:40 p.m.: Ha ha then do it.

Casey’s cell records http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2385297/Casey_Anthony_cell_records_615_to_716

[Explorer]

Its as if he's been hangin with LKB too long.

[ellegna]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

Why does this not shock me? :rolleyes:

[Explorer]

holy crap, Batman!

And that concludes this episode of PEYTON PLACE.

[Postergeist]

luckyluka- I can find some rumors/questions about that in a Topix forum from a Sept. 25, 2008 question posed- the topic is broached on page 7 of a thread titled:

"Cindy Anthony Collecting Money Under False Pretenses & RICO"

not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to a mb that has speculation on it.

[8BellesFan]

And that concludes this episode of PEYTON PLACE.which reminds me that Lana Turner's daughter had some trouble with a knife and a dead body too.

[Explorer]

which reminds me that Lana Turner's daughter had some trouble with a knife and a dead body too.

I read that book but im a little fuzzy on it. Did he do that autopsy?

[8BellesFan]

I read that book but im a little fuzzy on it. Did he do that autopsy?



lol, I dunno

[Explorer]

That Lana Turner case was sad that guy was molesting her daughter.

[Sun]

Is there a time limit on when she can be charged. They are probably trying to run out the clock. Delay the murder case until the statute runs out.

I asked this same question yesterday, and Lapis answered that the State has filed "within" the time limit, so this isn't a concern.

I do think that there are other reasons for the State to want these check/id fraud charges to be handled sooner rather than later. chuckles.... it will give Baez something to do. He clearly has made no progress on Casey's defense on the Murder Charge.

I recently checked the Clerk of Courts records to see just how many cases Baez has been handling this last year. Shockingly, very, very few... less than a dozen, and the last 2-3 were for pot/paraphanalia, breakin/burglery. .....kind of wonder who is paying HIS bills. LOL

[8BellesFan]

I asked this same question yesterday, and Lapis answered that the State has filed "within" the time limit, so this isn't a concern.

I do think that there are other reasons for the State to want these check/id fraud charges to be handled sooner rather than later. chuckles.... it will give Baez something to do. He clearly has made no progress on Casey's defense on the Murder Charge.

I recently checked the Clerk of Courts records to see just how many cases Baez has been handling this last year. Shockingly, very, very few... less than a dozen, and the last 2-3 were for pot/paraphanalia, breakin/burglery. .....kind of wonder who is paying HIS bills. LOL

I wondered about this also. Does a court appointed lawyer get a monthly or quarterly check or something? Or is it a lump sum payment for the case? I have no idea how this works.

[Explorer]

I asked this same question yesterday, and Lapis answered that the State has filed "within" the time limit, so this isn't a concern.

I do think that there are other reasons for the State to want these check/id fraud charges to be handled sooner rather than later. chuckles.... it will give Baez something to do. He clearly has made no progress on Casey's defense on the Murder Charge.

I recently checked the Clerk of Courts records to see just how many cases Baez has been handling this last year. Shockingly, very, very few... less than a dozen, and the last 2-3 were for pot/paraphanalia, breakin/burglery. .....kind of wonder who is paying HIS bills. LOL

They want to make sure if by some remote chance she doesnt get convicted on murder, she still wont see the light of day for YEARS.

[8BellesFan]

Is it possible that the real reason for moving from Ohio to Florida was to leave behind an affair resulting in a baby?

[Explorer]

Is it possible that the real reason for moving from Ohio to Florida was to leave behind an affair resulting in a baby?

That crossed my mind also. Did you notice there is no contact with georges family. We dont hear anything about georges family.

[Postergeist]

@Postergeist
Don´t get it really. Maybe you can PM that link?
Maybe I´m just to dumb.

Thx.
LL


sent- (none of the posters provided links to their "facts"/rumors)

Postie

[Explorer]

I asked this same question yesterday, and Lapis answered that the State has filed "within" the time limit, so this isn't a concern.

I do think that there are other reasons for the State to want these check/id fraud charges to be handled sooner rather than later. chuckles.... it will give Baez something to do. He clearly has made no progress on Casey's defense on the Murder Charge.

I recently checked the Clerk of Courts records to see just how many cases Baez has been handling this last year. Shockingly, very, very few... less than a dozen, and the last 2-3 were for pot/paraphanalia, breakin/burglery. .....kind of wonder who is paying HIS bills. LOL

Gives baez something to do:thumbsup:

[Sun]

George told Brian Burner’s son someone broke into their shed.
Page 11 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...30,%202008.pdf

Thanks desmom for all your efforts! It is so appreciated!

Reflecting back on this one. I recall that George said that someone would have to scale his wooden fence to gain access to the backyard. Why would George have talked to BB's son, if not to try to place the blame on him? Afterall, George doesn't seem to be on "friendly" terms with anyone in that neighborhood. Does anyone know just how old BB's sons are?

If Cindy hadn't flapped her gums in regards to Casey telling her that she'd used the shovel for a bamboo root, then the Anthonys/Baez could have argued that BB had a grudge and just made up the shovel borrowing. LOL Of course we also know just "WHO" stole the gas cans.

[8BellesFan]

That crossed my mind also. Did you notice there is no contact with georges family. We dont hear anything about georges family.


Cindy and George change facts like they change socks, but very early on, just days after the case coming to light, George gave an interview saying that his mother was at the house when Casey was arrested. I heard this one time and after that his mother was never again mentioned in the arrest storyline.

It was something like we (Geroge, Cindy, George's mother) were all sitting watching on television about the arrest and I was told they would call me, like a courtesy call if they were going to arrest her. We were all stunned.

something like that. I can't remember the exact words so I did not use quotes....


edited to add: this was back when Caylee was last seen on the 8th. then they got new socks.

[Sun]

That crossed my mind also. Did you notice there is no contact with georges family. We dont hear anything about georges family.

It's been said that their move to FL happened after the foreclosure on their home in OH. I'd say that they moved because they just "ran" from their responsibilities/troubles.

[desmom]

Thanks desmom for all your efforts! It is so appreciated!

Reflecting back on this one. I recall that George said that someone would have to scale his wooden fence to gain access to the backyard. Why would George have talked to BB's son, if not to try to place the blame on him? Afterall, George doesn't seem to be on "friendly" terms with anyone in that neighborhood. Does anyone know just how old BB's sons are?

If Cindy hadn't flapped her gums in regards to Casey telling her that she'd used the shovel for a bamboo root, then the Anthonys/Baez could have argued that BB had a grudge and just made up the shovel borrowing. LOL Of course we also know just "WHO" stole the gas cans.

Before George told Greta Casey took the cans, he told one of the local media outlets a neighbor took the can.
More Anthonyisms.

[Sun]

Before George told Greta Casey took the cans, he told one of the local media outlets a neighbor took the can.
More Anthonyisms.

Maybe this is one of the reasons George is no longer in LE. Intentially placing the blame on someone that he "knew" was innocent (to deflect blame from Casey). What a scumbag!

[AMS]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

Wow. Where did this come from?

imo

[Explorer]

Good morning - I don't know the answer but I heard thhis too and thought the same thing. Why else would Baden do an autoposy unless he was associated with the defense?

imo

I dont think LE trusts him. Im sure since Dr. Baden is the Brittany Spears of the medical examiners world that it is possible they found out he is associated with the defense. They dont trust him he is no longer credible.

[Explorer]

I was wondering if LKB is going to be working on the Colemn defense.

[Sun]

Before George told Greta Casey took the cans, he told one of the local media outlets a neighbor took the can.
More Anthonyisms.

Here is a link to an old WFTV article where Cindy is quoted about the shovel.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16924162/detail.html

[desmom]

Hi everyone this has been bugging me since last night. On Nany Grace they said They are going back to do a toxology report on the Coleman victims. Baden did the autopsy. I smell something fishy here. Is Baden associated with the Coleman defense lawyers?

I skimmed the transcripts but did not see it. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/23/ng.01.html

They were not going to do a Coroner's Inquest because Baden had done an independent autopsy. They have since changed their minds and their will be an inquest. At the inquest the tox reports will become part of the public record. jmo

[Explorer]

I wouldnt trust Baden as far as I could throw him. Well see time will tell whats going on.

[Sun]

OT-- Haylee Donathan has been found! Such good news! I'm still awaiting to hear what her mom and the sex offender are going to be charged with.

[Postergeist]

rothfl- I'm reading comments about the autopsy report release and for those that didn't read a comment about the A's, a poster said it was

"crab puff coping" :laugh:

oh the various ways the A's do cope-

[Explorer]

OT-- Haylee Donathan has been found! Such good news! I'm still awaiting to hear what her mom and the sex offender are going to be charged with.

They said she has chicken pox. What is wrong with that mother?

[Scampi]

rothfl- I'm reading comments about the autopsy report release and for those that didn't read a comment about the A's, a poster said it was

"crab puff coping" :laugh:

oh the various ways the A's do cope-

Now THAT is witty. Nothing like being notified your missing grandchild has been found in a shallow grave and then skipping out to put on the Ritz. Then they wonder why the public has a dim view of them.

[Rapunzel]

About this supposed affair Cindy had with George's brother. The poster said this was well documented...do we have any proof of this???

[bchand]

About this supposed affair Cindy had with George's brother. The poster said this was well documented...do we have any proof of this???

In a word.... no.

[CelticDawn]

Is there a time limit on when she can be charged. They are probably trying to run out the clock. Delay the murder case until the statute runs out.

Yes, there is a statute of limitations of check fraud and other types of fraud, but it is years. I will research just how many it is in Florida, but they do have quite some time (and good clean evidence in the fina ncial crimes she has committed).....but there is NO statute of limitations on the murder.

[CelticDawn]

Morning All~

question- does anyone know if the A's made any attempts to try to make money from Caylee during her short life legitimately?

It's been on my mind recently that they have been so industrious to try to bring in funds during the time that she was reported "missing" by them and it continues to the present day-

they all seemed to be hurting for money while she was alive, did any of them try to get Caylee into child modeling, print ads, local beauty contests, etc.?

My younger daughter did pageants and it COSTS a whole lot of money to participate. I doubt they could do that. Modeling requires being able to travel on ones own funds at first...until youve proved your worth....and that can be very costly. They would look at get rich QUICK schemes and unless they had some mystery BACKER financially, it wouldn't have benefitted them at all.

caylee was a beautiful girl FOR SURE but she really didn't have "the look"...(no offense, but you all pretty muck KNOW the commercialized model child look)

[alisa31235]

Here is a link to an old WFTV article where Cindy is quoted about the shovel.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16924162/detail.html

Good morning all.........reading this article today just makes me shake my head more and more i can not believe these people they have protected Casey since day 31 IMP

[Rapunzel]

I am skeptical that this affair took place as we never heard that from Lenny...if he got wind of that...it would be out there.:wink::wink:

[CelticDawn]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

NOOOOOO HUH???


Just when I thought there could be NO MORE SKELETONS,....NO MORE FREAKISHNESS....NO MORE WEIRDNESS....NO MORE DRAMA.......

that is just DISGUSTING to think about!!!

[jammies]

I am skeptical that this affair took place as we never heard that from Lenny...if he got wind of that...it would be out there.:wink::wink:


First chuckle of the day, Rapunzel! :laugh:

[cassidy]

About this supposed affair Cindy had with George's brother. The poster said this was well documented...do we have any proof of this???

1st I heard of it. :shrug:

[Unleashed]

And that concludes this episode of PEYTON PLACE.

Oh, if only that were so! :laugh:
JMO

[Sun]

I've been searching around for some of the very, very early interviews that were done by the Anthonys. Here is one that I found interesting for several reasons. One, the zooming and closeups that show Cindy's eyebrows. Two, the minimal jewelry that Cindy is wearing... be sure to check out that left hand of hers and what is missing from it. This 7/17/2008 interview is where she talks about losing "two of my children."

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

[CelticDawn]

riginally Posted by notdarkyet
I think that G & C drink...they seem like a couple who would fight while intoxicated...and as a result I bet they have done some crazy s*it in the past that Crazy and Lee saw their bad behavior and lots of loud confrontational verbal sparring - maybe even physical violence was witnessed...

I have heard that it was rumored that Crazy's father is not George, but his brother (who Cindy had an affair with years ago - that is a known fact...the affair). But if that is true, then that would make George's brother Crazy's bio father! (MY HEAD HURTS....ROOM SPINS) Their earlier rocky relationship could be a product of booze filled jealousy, blaming, mudslinging and finger pointing by all involved - no way Crazy and Lee would not be negatively impacted and learn the same kind of behaviors they have seen played out their whole lives...THAT WOULD BE ONE BIG SECRET....Quick, find NG....BOMBSHELL!

I think that is why they let Crazy run their lives - they are trying to "make up" to her (and Lee for that matter) for all of this turmoil... even if it is subconsciously done. There is no doubt in my mind that they protect her even if it makes them look like idiots..."No, Rick, Casey is NOT pregnant!" (at his wedding that Crazy was not even invited to) when even people who didn't even know her were like, "Who's the pregnant girl?" And Cindy huffed back, well she would have had to had sex to be pregnant! Evidently she is not an OB/GYN nurse! Or an oncologist's nurse who specializes in shrinking malignant tumors (as Rick said, "then you need to take her to a doctor for that tumor in her stomach!" (That cracked me up!)

Cindy may be a registered "nurse", but she is also a registered and certifiable nut job, imoThat is from last night!
:ohmy:
LL


I had heard about "the affair" and found that no better than incestuous even though there was no blood relations....but MY GOD .....IF CASEY KNOWS that (IF THIS IS THE CASE) that george is NOT her father but her UNCLE is in fact daddy dearest,....wouldn't said uncle have to know too???.....and wouldn't that open up other doors to casey's defense being financed *annonymously* by him, his estate, and other family members that know the score too???

[Rapunzel]

Good morning all.........reading this article today just makes me shake my head more and more i can not believe these people they have protected Casey since day 31 IMP

Interesting quote from Cindy in this article...

"If I have to go out myself, door to door, and look for this child, until the day I die, I will walk every inch of this earth and open every door and knock on every door everyday and I will look in every nook and cranny," Cynthia said.

Wonder what happened to that???


Also this one...they say they are paying for Casey's attorney...

The pair says they have faith in their daughter and are paying for her attorney.

[CelticDawn]

I've been searching around for some of the very, very early interviews that were done by the Anthonys. Here is one that I found interesting for several reasons. One, the zooming and closeups that show Cindy's eyebrows. Two, the minimal jewelry that Cindy is wearing... be sure to check out that left hand of hers and what is missing from it. This 7/17/2008 interview is where she talks about losing "two of my children."

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html



Cindy's eyebrows quite interesting...yes....what do you think about that???..

I wouldnt put too much stock in the jewelry issue or the lack thereof...on the left hand...as I have lost over 70 pounds (not by choice) and sometimes dont wear rings on fingers but around my neck on a chain tucked inside.....Cindy WAS distrdessed and probably haxd fluctuating weight even then...

[Tia]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

NO WAY!!! I am missing everything lately!!!!
Nothing surprises me about this family!

[desmom]

Cindy's eyebrows quite interesting...yes....what do you think about that???..

I wouldnt put too much stock in the jewelry issue or the lack thereof...on the left hand...as I have lost over 70 pounds (not by choice) and sometimes dont wear rings on fingers but around my neck on a chain tucked inside.....Cindy WAS distrdessed and probably haxd fluctuating weight even then...

I would say she got carried away with her eyebrow pencil. :scared:

I think this was done the day Casey was arrested or shortly after. Cindy said she went very early to tell her parents Caylee was missing before they heard it on the news. jmo

[CelticDawn]

NO WAY!!! I am missing everything lately!!!!
Nothing surprises me about this family!

That whole scenario just makes me feel ill.....sad in a way...no matter how horrid we may think this family is...

I suppose its our pasts that make us all who and what we are....and if this really is true....Casey HERSELF never really had a chance...and the cycle continued with caylee....only in a much more horrifically destructive tragic way.

[desmom]

About this supposed affair Cindy had with George's brother. The poster said this was well documented...do we have any proof of this???

If a secret fling was "well documented", it wouldn't be a secret...would it? :tonguewag:

IIRC, there was a lot of speculation about this in the very beginning and it faded into the woodwork with all the other rumors.

jmo

[Tia]

NOOOOOO HUH???


Just when I thought there could be NO MORE SKELETONS,....NO MORE FREAKISHNESS....NO MORE WEIRDNESS....NO MORE DRAMA.......

that is just DISGUSTING to think about!!!


CD, never think that we've heard the last of the Anthony Freakishness! Its not going to happen!!!

What is more disgusting is that now I am wondering if Caylee's father could be another family member.....................:ohmy:

[CelticDawn]

I would say she got carried away with her eyebrow pencil. :scared:

I think this was done the day Casey was arrested or shortly after. Cindy said she went very early to tell her parents Caylee was missing before they heard it on the news. jmo

Hey des.....yeah, the lack of makeup application skills was the obvious....She had real tears though..good thing she wasnt wearing mascara.

Did you notice George's demeanor?....and for some reason, at a few points when they soomed out they dimmed the light on him and focused it on Cindy....Don't know if that was purposeful, though.

[apothecary]

ThisI've been searching around for some of the very, very early interviews that were done by the Anthonys. Here is one that I found interesting for several reasons. One, the zooming and closeups that show Cindy's eyebrows. Two, the minimal jewelry that Cindy is wearing... be sure to check out that left hand of hers and what is missing from it. This 7/17/2008 interview is where she talks about losing "two of my children."

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html
I watched that interview and again noted that there was no concern about Caylee's welfare or treatment by said abductors.Just that she hoped to see her soon and that she did not want to lose 2 kids.There was no panic or concern in her attitude.If it were my relative I would be first concerned that someone was hurting them or worse.And this was very early in the so called abduction.

[CelticDawn]

CD, never think that we've heard the last of the Anthony Freakishness! Its not going to happen!!!

What is more disgusting is that now I am wondering if Caylee's father could be another family member.....................:ohmy:


As "juicy" as the gossip may be, I found it to be a comfort that Lee was NOT caylees bio-father.....That STILL does not rule out an inappropriate relationship between the two siblings (in some odd manner).....

This kind of behaviour is just so foreign....and so unnecessary in life.....

....and it's not like they are trying to protect some massive estate and "keeping it in the family"......Right now, the ONLY plus would be that FAMILY MIGHT BE taking care of some of caseys financial obligations and NOT THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA....its just sick and sickening.


Let's hope all of this is just rumor....

[Scampi]

Here is a link to a story about the future of In Sessions and live trials. Go to the Feedback and Help board to discuss it tho.

Looks like Jack Ford, Ashleigh Banfield among 100 others are losing their jobs. IS is being combined with HLN and the production is moving to Atlanta, in Novemeber. I think they will still cover live trials, including the anthony one.

I don't know how this will effect our message boards.

Anywhoo, interesting article for anyone who likes live trials:



http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/courttvtrutv/trutvs_in_session_shuts_down_119687.asp

[Rapunzel]

Cindy's eyebrows quite interesting...yes....what do you think about that???..

I wouldnt put too much stock in the jewelry issue or the lack thereof...on the left hand...as I have lost over 70 pounds (not by choice) and sometimes dont wear rings on fingers but around my neck on a chain tucked inside.....Cindy WAS distrdessed and probably haxd fluctuating weight even then...

Interesting how she once again equates that Casey and Caylee are both her children as she did in the Memorial...then she corrects herself and says my daughter and granddaughter...what is wrong with this women??? Never mind...


IMO I think Cindy does not have her wedding ring on because I think before all this broke her and George were having problems again.

This video was on 7/17/08...Cindy still seems to have real emotion and at this point still believes what KC said...don't think it was till KC was out on bond that they found out the truth.

Sometimes I waffle between a cover up from day 31, but this video tells a different story...seems like Cindy thought Caylee was kidnapped.

[Tia]

As "juicy" as the gossip may be, I found it to be a comfort that Lee was NOT caylees bio-father.....That STILL does not rule out an inappropriate relationship between the two siblings (in some odd manner).....

This kind of behaviour is just so foreign....and so unnecessary in life.....

....and it's not like they are trying to protect some massive estate and "keeping it in the family"......Right now, the ONLY plus would be that FAMILY MIGHT BE taking care of some of caseys financial obligations and NOT THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA....its just sick and sickening.


Let's hope all of this is just rumor....

I hope its a rumor too. Unfortunately, the bizarre behavior of the Anthony's makes anything possible to believe.

By the way, I wasn't thinking Lee.........:eek:

[summer4meplz]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

is he the rich one? that might explain..........

[Unleashed]

Our friend Peter, who gave us the lengthy posts about the other BH and the OC and JB on the video, hasn't posted since that date :ohmy:

Anybody know anything?

JMO

[Sun]

This
I watched that interview and again noted that there was no concern about Caylee's welfare or treatment by said abductors.Just that she hoped to see her soon and that she did not want to lose 2 kids.There was no panic or concern in her attitude.If it were my relative I would be first concerned that someone was hurting them or worse.And this was very early in the so called abduction.

Yes, Cindy attitude was "all about her" and her feelings. "Her" life had changed. IMO, Cindy is a very, very sick and disturbed individual.

[Cynthia]

is he the rich one? that might explain..........

Good Morning Friends.....

I think if Casey knew Caylee's father she wouldn't have wasted time milking him dry to support Caylee.

[desmom]

Hey des.....yeah, the lack of makeup application skills was the obvious....She had real tears though..good thing she wasnt wearing mascara.

Did you notice George's demeanor?....and for some reason, at a few points when they soomed out they dimmed the light on him and focused it on Cindy....Don't know if that was purposeful, though.

If you look at the video when they zoom out when Cindy asks George Trenton Duckett's father's name, the light shines on George and Cindy is dimmed. The light then reflects off the wall between the 2 of them. approx. 2:30 on the clock http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html Because this was inside the house, they probably only brought in one light. :shrug:

[Rapunzel]

Guess, I'm the only one that thinks Cindy did show emotion in that 7/17 video...just was comparing it to recently...she seemed to have a lot more emotion then the last few months. To me she also showed raw emotion during the 911 calls...after these two incidents I rarely saw any emotion besides anger...JMO

[iluvmua]

I think Casey does not know who the father is, I think it's all BS and these incest rumors need to be put to rest once and for all.

If somebody has actual proof that there is incest going around in that family then please post, other than that it's just hearsay.

[Patty437]

I asked this same question yesterday, and Lapis answered that the State has filed "within" the time limit, so this isn't a concern.

I do think that there are other reasons for the State to want these check/id fraud charges to be handled sooner rather than later. chuckles.... it will give Baez something to do. He clearly has made no progress on Casey's defense on the Murder Charge.

I recently checked the Clerk of Courts records to see just how many cases Baez has been handling this last year. Shockingly, very, very few... less than a dozen, and the last 2-3 were for pot/paraphanalia, breakin/burglery. .....kind of wonder who is paying HIS bills. LOL

if she goes to trial for all the check charges and is found guilty, (no brainer), will she be sent to state prison or continue at the county jail awaiting trial for murder? would love to see her at the "big house"!!

[Sun]

I would say she got carried away with her eyebrow pencil. :scared:

I think this was done the day Casey was arrested or shortly after. Cindy said she went very early to tell her parents Caylee was missing before they heard it on the news. jmo

The date that I saw on the video was July 17, however I also noticed that Cindy was wearing that same top on another video that was dated July 18. So, it's probably one of these two days.

Cindy wasn't wearing dangling earrings. Cindy wasn't wearing multiple necklaces. Cindy didn't have both arms heavily laden with bracklets. ....much like I would expect of someone who was grieving for the loss of a loved one. Back in July 2008. Such a different look today in June 2009.

[Tia]

if she goes to trial for all the check charges and is found guilty, (no brainer), will she be sent to state prison or continue at the county jail awaiting trial for murder? would love to see her at the "big house"!!


What kind of "time" is she looking if found guilty of the check stealing?

[Sun]

if she goes to trial for all the check charges and is found guilty, (no brainer), will she be sent to state prison or continue at the county jail awaiting trial for murder? would love to see her at the "big house"!!

Chances are that Baez would fight to keep her at the jail, so that he can have easy access to her. Some say that the sentence length has something to do with whether she "might" be transfered to a prison, but .....I guess we'll find out what happens when it happens.

[margaritaville]

I think Casey does not know who the father is, I think it's all BS and these incest rumors need to be put to rest once and for all.

If somebody has actual proof that there is incest going around in that family then please post, other than that it's just hearsay.

No kidding!! :rolleyes:

This is a opinion board.......It is where people post their opinions...

Yes there are a lot of "facts" that are posted along with links for proof...
But everybody has a right to their opinion, or "hearsay" as you call it.

MOO
MY OPINION ONLY

[sammy62]

Morning ellegna!

Just read the threads of the night and went wooh.
Georges brother to be Caseys father?!
Cindy had a sort of "realtionship" with his brother?

What do you think?
LL:wub:

Is there a link?

good morning

trying to catch up...so if this has been discussed...sorry.

somewhere IIRC, George says he has a rich brother. Could that be the money train?

[Postergeist]

The date that I saw on the video was July 17, however I also noticed that Cindy was wearing that same top on another video that was dated July 18. So, it's probably one of these two days.

Cindy wasn't wearing dangling earrings. Cindy wasn't wearing multiple necklaces. Cindy didn't have both arms heavily laden with bracklets. ....much like I would expect of someone who was grieving for the loss of a loved one. Back in July 2008. Such a different look today in June 2009.


but just 13 days later in July of 2008- check out her demeanor here-

at this point she is saying they are very close to having all the jigsaw puzzle pieces put together, that she has basically figured it all out and it helped with a 4 am phone call she received. She says that the party club pics are so Casey doesn't send out any red flags to anyone...m'kay

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

(19 min. raw interview July 30, 2008)

[Postergeist]

here's the link to the abandoned house that the A's PI searched last year (1/13/09)

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

(anyone know if LE ever entered the property to see if there was any evidence inside- in case Casey ever kept the body here- George did say that Caylee was "moved 9 times")

[JHP]

good morning

trying to catch up...so if this has been discussed...sorry.

somewhere IIRC, George says he has a rich brother. Could that be the money train?

I think the lack of family support on both sides is very telling. If I were Georges brother I would be unhappy he made that statement. Plus wasn't his money from a car dealership? Due to the economy alot of things are suffering.

JMO

[margaritaville]

good morning

trying to catch up...so if this has been discussed...sorry.

somewhere IIRC, George says he has a rich brother. Could that be the money train?

It could be... Who ever is funding the defense, wants it kept a secret.
Remember the "closed door" hearing with the attorneys and judge?

We know it is not from the sales of pictures or book offers because that is what sparked the hearing. the prosecutors made sure it was legit. And it must have been...or we would know....

Once the trial is over will they have to say "who" funded the defense or will it always remain a mystery?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/25/casey.caylee.anthony/index.html

[desmom]

but just 13 days later in July of 2008- check out her demeanor here-

at this point she is saying they are very close to having all the jigsaw puzzle pieces put together, that she has basically figured it all out and it helped with a 4 am phone call she received. She says that the party club pics are so Casey doesn't send out any red flags to anyone...m'kay

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

(19 min. raw interview July 30, 2008)

hmm, that link takes me to the same interview up thread. :confused:

[Sun]

It could be... Who ever is funding the defense, wants it kept a secret.
Remember the "closed door" hearing with the attorneys and judge?

We know it is not from the sales of pictures or book offers because that is what sparked the hearing. the prosecutors made sure it was legit. And it must have been...or we would know....

Once the trial is over will they have to say "who" funded the defense or will it always remain a mystery?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/25/casey.caylee.anthony/index.html

I've always had a little hope that Morgan/Mitnik would find out this info and let the public know. If they can continue to move the Civil Case forward, this is a possibility.

[Tia]

I think the lack of family support on both sides is very telling. If I were Georges brother I would be unhappy he made that statement. Plus wasn't his money from a car dealership? Due to the economy alot of things are suffering.

JMO

The behavior we see from the Anthony's is the same behavior that their families have seen for YEARS. IMO, after watching them for a year, its easy to see why they get so little support from their families. They are very unlikeable people.

[Lapis]

Is there a time limit on when she can be charged. They are probably trying to run out the clock. Delay the murder case until the statute runs out.

She has already been charged. The statute of limitations does not come into play. She has waived her right to a speedy trial. JMO

[desmom]

good morning

trying to catch up...so if this has been discussed...sorry.

somewhere IIRC, George says he has a rich brother. Could that be the money train?

George's BIL is rich, married to George's sister who live in the Carolinas. page 64-65 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

I skimmed this interview and may have missed it. I only see where George talked about his 2 sisters and I do not see any mention of a brother.

Does George even have a brother?

[Postergeist]

hmm, that link takes me to the same interview up thread. :confused:

sorry, that's what displays when I play the indiv. videos

for those interested just look for the dates posted on the indiv. videos

raw interview of Cindy for that date

most people have only seen the edited version of George during his Oct. interview- the raw interview is more in depth- Oct. 15- where he hasn't slept for 2 days, here he says he talked to Casey a lot and talked to her about where is Caylee before her final arrest...hmmm

look for his interview under that date (date added at 8 am)

[Sun]

Here is a video from WFTV, from the early days in July 2008 I believe. Kathi Belich is already reporting on the case, and has a very good early view of things.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914203/index.html

[Unleashed]

The behavior we see from the Anthony's is the same behavior that their families have seen for YEARS. IMO, after watching them for a year, its easy to see why they get so little support from their families. They are very unlikeable people.


But...but...according to Cindy, they have THOUSANDS of supporters!
How confusing.:blink:

JMO

[JHP]

The behavior we see from the Anthony's is the same behavior that their families have seen for YEARS. IMO, after watching them for a year, its easy to see why they get so little support from their families. They are very unlikeable people.

Good morning Tia, I think the family is probably familiar with the A's dysfunction and have stayed clear for awhile. If I were Georges rich relative I'd avoid them at all costs. G&C have probably tried to get money from them before.

Scammers never change, they just move to a new one!

JMO

[8BellesFan]

I am skeptical that this affair took place as we never heard that from Lenny...if he got wind of that...it would be out there.:wink::wink:



another link in the daisy chain.

[Sun]

I did search yesterday for the Bond Hearing back in July 2008 and this is what I found for the Anthony's testimony (and I know there was more).

Lee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxkIuEQvzDg
Cindy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxN-Ae6_g8
George: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xJfZxuKs3Q



And, here is the interview right after Cindy/George exit the courtroom.

http://www.truveo.com/Cindy-Anthony-speaks-to-reporters-after-bond/id/1031594907

[Lapis]

I've always had a little hope that Morgan/Mitnik would find out this info and let the public know. If they can continue to move the Civil Case forward, this is a possibility.

How the defense is being funded is privildged informaton. JMO

[Rapunzel]

George's BIL is rich, married to George's sister who live in the Carolinas. page 64-65 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

I skimmed this interview and may have missed it. I only see where George talked about his 2 sisters and I do not see any mention of a brother.

Does George even have a brother?


This is what I remember too...George has a rich sister...of course this is according to George, so what is rich to George???
Didn't they say that she was also a little goofy???
Boy if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black!!!

[*MoonRider*]

GM Lapis & all. Is it true that the SA can't use the videos of the economic charges in the murder trial except to show her state of mind? Could this be why they are going forward with the check fraud case first? tia

[Januarybaby]

If you look at the video when they zoom out when Cindy asks George Trenton Duckett's father's name, the light shines on George and Cindy is dimmed. The light then reflects off the wall between the 2 of them. approx. 2:30 on the clock http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html Because this was inside the house, they probably only brought in one light. :shrug:

Cindy says " I dont want to lose both of my children" (then a bit of a hesitation like she realized what she just said) "my granddaughter or my daughter"

Could make what people are said about Casey being jealous of CIndy over Caylee more true. Just like the birthday present thing where Cindy took over and Casey got mad.

[Explorer]

She has already been charged. The statute of limitations does not come into play. She has waived her right to a speedy trial. JMO

Thanks. Why do you think they want to proceed with the fraud charges. Can it be used in the murder trial?

[Barbara fl.]

She has already been charged. The statute of limitations does not come into play. She has waived her right to a speedy trial. JMO


Good morning Lapis and everyone,

I heard on NG last night that the state is thinking of holding the trial for the checks charge....and one attorney was totally against it and another said it was a good idea....What would be the advantage of putting Casey on trial now for them? I hope this is not a sign that the state thinks their case is weak for the murder charge and wants her convicted of the checks charge so that she can not get out on bail and go directly to jail when this murder case is over (just incase the state loses the murder case).....Could this be a possibility?

[MissElainyS]

I think Casey does not know who the father is, I think it's all BS and these incest rumors need to be put to rest once and for all.

If somebody has actual proof that there is incest going around in that family then please post, other than that it's just hearsay.

Do you not recall one of Casey's closest friends telling the press that Casey told her that her brother, Lee, tried to have sex with her? I think that falls under the category of incest. Nothing would surprise me with this family. Yeah, this may be "hearsay" as you put it, but it's already out there. And it won't be "put to rest" until Casey herself denies it.

[Sun]

How the defense is being funded is privildged informaton. JMO

IF ZFG wins the suit and is awarded money damages then Morgan/Mitnik will have the right to investigate KC's finances, correct?

[desmom]

sorry, that's what displays when I play the indiv. videos

for those interested just look for the dates posted on the indiv. videos

raw interview of Cindy for that date

most people have only seen the edited version of George during his Oct. interview- the raw interview is more in depth- Oct. 15- where he hasn't slept for 2 days, here he says he talked to Casey a lot and talked to her about where is Caylee before her final arrest...hmmm

look for his interview under that date (date added at 8 am)

From the links thread...

Posted 7/29 Family Responds to Judge's Ruling
http://www.wesh.com/video/17029664/index.html

Posted 7/31: Raw Interview: Casey Anthony's Mom Talks Before Visiting Daughter
http://www.wftv.com/video/17037822/index.html

[Barbara fl.]

Cindy says " I dont want to lose both of my children" (then a bit of a hesitation like she realized what she just said) "my granddaughter or my daughter"

Could make what people are said about Casey being jealous of CIndy over Caylee more true. Just like the birthday present thing where Cindy took over and Casey got mad.


Not to go in the defense of anyone of the Anthonys...but I have my granddaughter with me and have had her since birth....there have been many times when she has called me "mommy"...I always correct her but she tells me that her teachers always tell the children that are being raised by someone other then their mother that they are their parents...and that confused my granddaughter for along time....now at 11, she knows better...and she also knows who her mother is.....But it is very easy to slip and say my daughter instead of granddaughter when talking in a convesation....I wouldn't put too much on that end of it....Casey was/is a very vindictive individual and would look for any reason to dislike her mother....the average daughter who came home pregnant would be very happy to have her parents love the child like their own...Casey didn't want the responsibility of a child and she didn't want to see her parents with Caylee...I do not believe that any slips or show of love by the grandmother would have any affect on Casey...at least it shouldn't have IMO...

[Rapunzel]

In one of the first interviews KC had with LE remember when they were questioning her about leaving Caylee at Sawgrass and when KC went to pick her up and no one was there, she said she sat on the steps for awhile before going to her neutral place (Tony's) and LE told her they have surveillance camera at Sawgrass and she wasn't there.

Did anyone ever find out if indeed Sawgrass had surveillance video or was that just a ploy by LE???

I tried to find out once and never could.

[Lapis]

GM Lapis & all. Is it true that the SA can't use the videos of the economic charges in the murder trial except to show her state of mind? Could this be why they are going forward with the check fraud case first? tia

Yes, they can show the video of her shopping and comment that she is not purchasing anything for Caylee or she doesn't appear to be concerned, but cannot comment on where the funds for the purchases came from in the murder trial. If she is convicted of the check fraud charges and takes the stand in the murder case they can use the conviction to impeach her (not that they really need it with all the other evidence of her reputation for truth and veracity). If the prosecution is attempting to weave a theory that she had no money and was thrown out of the house and killed Caylee because she could not afford to keep her then I suppose that they could use the check fraud conviction. But then again, if that is their theory then I would argue that the cases should be tried together. They cannot just gratuitously mention her check fraud conviction because the law does not allow prior convictions to be used as evidence in trials especially if the charges are not similar.

Having said all that, the prosecution does understand that with the publicity this case is receiving the jury will be aware of the check fraud conviction without having to mention it.

JMO

[Barbara fl.]

Do you not recall one of Casey's closest friends telling the press that Casey told her that her brother, Lee, tried to have sex with her? I think that falls under the category of incest. Nothing would surprise me with this family. Yeah, this may be "hearsay" as you put it, but it's already out there. And it won't be "put to rest" until Casey herself denies it.


Everything that Casey say's hs to be taken with a box of salt....Casey has already been clasified as a pathological liar...we should not choose what is to be believed or not....everytime she opens her mouth it is a lie....so again, I wouldn't put too much on anything that Casey says....Now, if there was a previous charge agains Lee for having done this and the courts had stepped in, that would be a different story....But because there is no proof to any of this, it could have been Casey trying to make her boyfriend feel sorry for her....I believe that Casey also made that statement about her father....

I wouldn't believe anything that Casey says....

[desmom]

This is what I remember too...George has a rich sister...of course this is according to George, so what is rich to George???
Didn't they say that she was also a little goofy???
Boy if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black!!!

George talked about a sister that lives in Bonita Springs and is married to John - on page 63 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf . I think she is the one that they said was a little goofy. For some reason I want to say her name is Nonie.

The other sister, Ruthie, lives in the Carolinas. She is married to an engineer that travels, has a fantastic business and "to him fifty grand, hundred grand it's ..it's like you dropping maybe a thousand bucks on something..." (page 65 at the above link)

Once again, George's statements about $$$ makes me think this family is all about appearances.

jmo

[Barbara fl.]

In one of the first interviews KC had with LE remember when they were questioning her about leaving Caylee at Sawgrass and when KC went to pick her up and no one was there, she said she sat on the steps for awhile before going to her neutral place (Tony's) and LE told her they have surveillance camera at Sawgrass and she wasn't there.

Did anyone ever find out if indeed Sawgrass had surveillance video or was that just a ploy by LE???

I tried to find out once and never could.


The neutral place was "Blanchard park"....and yes, she did say that she sat on the steps at sawgrass waiting for "Zenaida" to come home....but we all know that "Zenaida" did not live there at all and that infact "Zenaida" didn't live anywhere because she doesn't exist....But, there was mention earlier on about camers and I believe that LE told Casey that they didn't observe her waiting...whether LE was just telling Casey that, to make her talk...I don't know.....but there was mention of it....

[Tia]

Good morning Tia, I think the family is probably familiar with the A's dysfunction and have stayed clear for awhile. If I were Georges rich relative I'd avoid them at all costs. G&C have probably tried to get money from them before.

Scammers never change, they just move to a new one!

JMO


Good Morning!
I agree. I would imagine that G & C were the topic of discussion around many dinner tables well before Caylee ever went missing.

[Lapis]

Do you not recall one of Casey's closest friends telling the press that Casey told her that her brother, Lee, tried to have sex with her? I think that falls under the category of incest. Nothing would surprise me with this family. Yeah, this may be "hearsay" as you put it, but it's already out there. And it won't be "put to rest" until Casey herself denies it.

IIRC this issue was taboo at the time it was being discussed and that at least was the natural conclusion from Casey's comment. Here there is nothing to support the rumor. Discuss this at your own peril. JMO

[Lapis]

IF ZFG wins the suit and is awarded money damages then Morgan/Mitnik will have the right to investigate KC's finances, correct?

Yes. The finances are not an issue until the case is won. JMO

[Rapunzel]

George talked about a sister that lives in Bonita Springs and is married to John - on page 63 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf . I think she is the one that they said was a little goofy. For some reason I want to say her name is Nonie.

The other sister, Ruthie, lives in the Carolinas. She is married to an engineer that travels, has a fantastic business and "to him fifty grand, hundred grand it's ..it's like you dropping maybe a thousand bucks on something..." (page 65 at the above link)

Once again, George's statements about $$$ makes me think this family is all about appearances.

jmo

Thanks Des!!!

[Buttoneyes]

I think the lack of family support on both sides is very telling. If I were Georges brother I would be unhappy he made that statement. Plus wasn't his money from a car dealership? Due to the economy alot of things are suffering.

JMOGeorge's sister is married to a Chrysler dealer in Youngstown, OH, who did not lose his dealership. Nevertheless, I don't think the car business is or has been good In NE OH for some time. He supposedly has another sister who is married to someone with $, or at least that's what I've read in early posts. Living in N VA? Not sure, but I think that's what I read.

[Barbara fl.]

What kind of "time" is she looking if found guilty of the check stealing?


Knowing Florida and how they can make anything they want stick...they will sock each and every chect to her....each check can hold up to 7 years....but normally wouldn't under different circumstances....byt I'm willing to bet that if she is found guilty the state will throw away the key....

Just like in the OJ cse...he got away with murder and a case that would have been normally trown out of court netted OG 33 years behind bars.....

The law puts maximum and least amount of time that can be served...that is so that they can weigh the circumstances accordingly......therefore, if the stae can't get you one way, they will get you another....JMO

[sammy62]

George's BIL is rich, married to George's sister who live in the Carolinas. page 64-65 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

I skimmed this interview and may have missed it. I only see where George talked about his 2 sisters and I do not see any mention of a brother.

Does George even have a brother?

good point. I'm sure the BIL is what I remember. Last nights chat says that Cindy had an affair with George's brother. They had no link or proof though.

[Postergeist]

most people have only seen the edited version of George during his Oct. interview- the raw interview is more in depth- Oct. 15- where he hasn't slept for 2 days, here he says he talked to Casey a lot and talked to her about where is Caylee before her final arrest...hmmm

look for his interview under that date (date added at 8 am)

this should be the direct link to the unedited raw interview with George after Casey's last arrest.

He gets very emotional but very insistent that Caylee is alive and that he will find her and of course the unconditional love for his daughter line.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17719972/ 13:09 min.


(this is different than his other later interviews, esp. to LKL where he stated he didn't get a chance to talk to his daughter- Cindy corrects him so he adds "not like he wanted to" or something like that)

[snap4]

Here is a link to an old WFTV article where Cindy is quoted about the shovel.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16924162/detail.html

Snipped this from that article...I laughed so dang hard almost fell off my chair!!!

Cynthia believes if someone took Caylee, that person might have threatened Casey, the toddler or her family. She also feels Casey knows that person.

"And she feels compelled to put the blame on herself than some other person," said Cynthia. "That's the type of person Casey is."

Just cracks me up LOL oh yeah "that is just the kind of person she is" LMAO

[Barbara fl.]

George's BIL is rich, married to George's sister who live in the Carolinas. page 64-65 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf

I skimmed this interview and may have missed it. I only see where George talked about his 2 sisters and I do not see any mention of a brother.

Does George even have a brother?



At this stage of it...I doubt that Cindy and George have any family that wants to be associated with them...:biggrin:

[Lavinia]

O/T, but in the middle of the night last night, I remembered someone sent me a PM a couple of days ago asking me about my daughter and I can't remember answering them nor can I find the PM. If you were the PMer, please try me again. I will take better care of your PM this time. :blushing::wub:

[Explorer]

Snipped this from that article...I laughed so dang hard almost fell off my chair!!!

Cynthia believes if someone took Caylee, that person might have threatened Casey, the toddler or her family. She also feels Casey knows that person.

"And she feels compelled to put the blame on herself than some other person," said Cynthia. "That's the type of person Casey is."

Just cracks me up LOL oh yeah "that is just the kind of person she is" LMAO

Doesnt that beat all?:biggrin:

[CelticDawn]

If you look at the video when they zoom out when Cindy asks George Trenton Duckett's father's name, the light shines on George and Cindy is dimmed. The light then reflects off the wall between the 2 of them. approx. 2:30 on the clock http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html Because this was inside the house, they probably only brought in one light. :shrug:

(Wow this work orientation thing is definitely culture shock for me!)


Did you notice

I want to see her face
I want to see her smile
I want to do the things with her that we used to do
I want her to read...etc,........
I/WE
I/WE.....


No I BET CAYLEE CANT WAIT TO GET BACT TO HER THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER....or CAYLEE IS GOING TO WANT ME TO MAKE HER FAVOURITE MEAL...


ALL what I or WE want...

[Tia]

Knowing Florida and how they can make anything they want stick...they will sock each and every chect to her....each check can hold up to 7 years....but normally wouldn't under different circumstances....byt I'm willing to bet that if she is found guilty the state will throw away the key....

Just like in the OJ cse...he got away with murder and a case that would have been normally trown out of court netted OG 33 years behind bars.....

The law puts maximum and least amount of time that can be served...that is so that they can weigh the circumstances accordingly......therefore, if the stae can't get you one way, they will get you another....JMO

Thanks Barbara!!!

Its good to know that no matter what happens, Casey will be behind bars for a very very long time.

[Unleashed]

IIRC this issue was taboo at the time it was being discussed and that at least was the natural conclusion from Casey's comment. Here there is nothing to support the rumor. Discuss this at your own peril. JMO
my bold.

Excellent caveat, Lapis, it's going to be way too hot to be going shopping for new dresses.

JMO

[Cynthia]

The day will forever go down in history when Cindy takes the stand at Casey's murder trial. How in heck is she ever going to remember all the lies and inconsistencies? Will they arrest her on perjury? She said herself that "lying is not a criminal offense", but under oath wouldn't that mean a bit more.

[Explorer]

Snipped this from that article...I laughed so dang hard almost fell off my chair!!!

Cynthia believes if someone took Caylee, that person might have threatened Casey, the toddler or her family. She also feels Casey knows that person.

"And she feels compelled to put the blame on herself than some other person," said Cynthia. "That's the type of person Casey is."

Just cracks me up LOL oh yeah "that is just the kind of person she is" LMAO

As you go back and read the statements from the anthonys they just seem so ridiculous. The a's are just one big joke.

[need2no]

George's sister is married to a Chrysler dealer in Youngstown, OH, who did not lose his dealership. Nevertheless, I don't think the car business is or has been good In NE OH for some time. He supposedly has another sister who is married to someone with $, or at least that's what I've read in early posts. Living in N VA? Not sure, but I think that's what I read.

From this link: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...y%20july24.pdf

George has a sister, Ruthie, who is married to an engineer who travels alot, and they live in The Carolinas, (strange he didn't say South or North, rather just The Carolinas). He has plenty of money and 50k would be a mere drop in the bucket to him.

The other sister is the one with 'head' issues per George.

[Sun]

Snipped this from that article...I laughed so dang hard almost fell off my chair!!!

Cynthia believes if someone took Caylee, that person might have threatened Casey, the toddler or her family. She also feels Casey knows that person.

"And she feels compelled to put the blame on herself than some other person," said Cynthia. "That's the type of person Casey is."

Just cracks me up LOL oh yeah "that is just the kind of person she is" LMAO

Some of these very, very early media articles and videos can reveal so much, after almost a whole year has passed. I'm thinking of looking for some that talk about the June 24 Gas Can incident... a year ago today. (or was it the 25th?)

[Barbara fl.]

Well, my daughter - sometimes - called me Oma (granny). And sometimes she called my mom Mama (mom). But she always recognized and corrected herself. And we all were laughing. Well, but she also used the term a..holes once in a while and my mom asked her what an a---hole is and she said: "Autofahrer" (Car drivers). I think kids know. And my mom would never slip and think that she is her daughter.

jmo
LL
At that time she was not even 3 years old.

Maybe I should think about it.
Don´t be angry at other people driving on your lane.



:lol:


Yes, one should be more careful around little ears...I remember one time that my son had a girlfriend over the house with her two children and one of them broke someting, and after they left, I said out loud "look at what that little b*****d did" and my granddaughter (3 at the time) turned around ans said "yah, look at what the B****d did"....


I was a little more careful after that...:biggrin:

[Pruddennce]

Good morning Tia, I think the family is probably familiar with the A's dysfunction and have stayed clear for awhile. If I were Georges rich relative I'd avoid them at all costs. G&C have probably tried to get money from them before.

Scammers never change, they just move to a new one!

JMO

I agree. the mere fact that GA brought up his sister and brother-in-law as having ALOT OF MONEY infers to me he is envious of their financial situation; he actually lamented they probably would not 'help' but he was going to ask. IMO, his BIL told him to take a hike.

it was jaw-dropping the rambling he was engaged in with investigators, speaking about MONEY and who can help financially.

money was the first thing on their minds. Casey had a public defender, and probably would have done better with the PD; she is indigent and the Anthonys have nothing as well. they cant afford 'the new dream team', let alone Baez who was duped into believing Casey had $5k to retain him.

its despicable. all them make me gag. esp Cindy and her superior attitude. wonder how long Brad is going to stick around......its interesting he allows her to CORRECT him publically in interviews (last LKL interview, *no thats not entirely true Brad, LET ME EXPLAIN*).....

NeJame bailed on them because of Cindy A and her abusive and abrasive attitude. BC is quite dim to continue this demeaning relationship.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[margaritaville]

Do you not recall one of Casey's closest friends telling the press that Casey told her that her brother, Lee, tried to have sex with her? I think that falls under the category of incest. Nothing would surprise me with this family. Yeah, this may be "hearsay" as you put it, but it's already out there. And it won't be "put to rest" until Casey herself denies it.


ITA.....here is a trascript of NG talking of this very thing!!

But first to Kathi Belich with WFTV, joining us from Orlando. What can you tell me about this DNA test on tot mom`s own brother, Lee Anthony?

KATHI BELICH, WFTV: Well, the FBI did perform DNA tests on a sample that was taken from Lee by a search -- through a search warrant, rather. And one of the things that we`ve heard through the documents is that Casey has accused Lee of some inappropriate things, sexually speaking, over the course of their lifetime, and that may be one of the reasons investigators did that test. They had to look back and see who was around Casey at the time she conceived Caylee. And she made those statements, so that could be one of the reasons why.

GRACE: Kathi Belich, what statements did tot mom Casey Anthony make regarding inappropriate behavior, advances on her by her brother Lee?

BELICH: She actually told her former fiance, Jesse Grund, and she also told her boyfriend at the time of her arrest, Tony Lazzaro, that her brother had made advances. In one case, she said it was during the time they were young. In another case, I don`t think there was a timeframe involved. And they both told that to investigators, and that information came up in this investigation. And so it`s possible that`s why they did the test.
snip>>>>>>>>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/17/ng.01.html

[Sun]

(Wow this work orientation thing is definitely culture shock for me!)


Did you notice

I want to see her face
I want to see her smile
I want to do the things with her that we used to do
I want her to read...etc,........
I/WE
I/WE.....


No I BET CAYLEE CANT WAIT TO GET BACT TO HER THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER....or CAYLEE IS GOING TO WANT ME TO MAKE HER FAVOURITE MEAL...


ALL what I or WE want...

Yes, Cindy is talking about things that affect "her" and that is just the way that Cindy is. There are times that I really think strongly that society needs to be protected from Cindy. sigh.

[Explorer]

Maybe the other family members were sucked in the george and cindy black hole of drama and decided the best thing to do is stay clear of them.

[Barbara fl.]

Maybe the other family members were sucked in the george and cindy black hole of drama and decided the best thing to do is stay clear of them.


Can you blame them? I wouldn't own up to even knowing them....:thumbdown:

[need2no]

(Wow this work orientation thing is definitely culture shock for me!)


Did you notice

I want to see her face
I want to see her smile
I want to do the things with her that we used to do
I want her to read...etc,........
I/WE
I/WE.....


No I BET CAYLEE CANT WAIT TO GET BACT TO HER THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER....or CAYLEE IS GOING TO WANT ME TO MAKE HER FAVOURITE MEAL...


ALL what I or WE want...


Yep me, me, me. I laughed when Cindy said....casey was a joy as a child, always has been a joy. Her kids are her life....with George sitting right there beside her. Somehow I don't think I could say that publicly about my daughter if she was a compulsive liar and a thief who didn't get the 1/2 credit she needed to graduate from HS and got pregnant by an unknown man, and couldn't keep a job to at least contribute to supporting herself and the child. Especially considering all the negative comments Cindy knew she had made about casey to her friends. :rolleyes:

[Explorer]

ITA.....here is a trascript of NG talking of this very thing!!

But first to Kathi Belich with WFTV, joining us from Orlando. What can you tell me about this DNA test on tot mom`s own brother, Lee Anthony?

KATHI BELICH, WFTV: Well, the FBI did perform DNA tests on a sample that was taken from Lee by a search -- through a search warrant, rather. And one of the things that we`ve heard through the documents is that Casey has accused Lee of some inappropriate things, sexually speaking, over the course of their lifetime, and that may be one of the reasons investigators did that test. They had to look back and see who was around Casey at the time she conceived Caylee. And she made those statements, so that could be one of the reasons why.

GRACE: Kathi Belich, what statements did tot mom Casey Anthony make regarding inappropriate behavior, advances on her by her brother Lee?

BELICH: She actually told her former fiance, Jesse Grund, and she also told her boyfriend at the time of her arrest, Tony Lazzaro, that her brother had made advances. In one case, she said it was during the time they were young. In another case, I don`t think there was a timeframe involved. And they both told that to investigators, and that information came up in this investigation. And so it`s possible that`s why they did the test.
snip>>>>>>>>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/17/ng.01.html

I just think its curious that casey anthony only told MALES that her brother tried to molest her. Why didnt she tell any FEMALES?

[Dick Tracy]

Snipped this from that article...I laughed so dang hard almost fell off my chair!!!

Cynthia believes if someone took Caylee, that person might have threatened Casey, the toddler or her family. She also feels Casey knows that person.

"And she feels compelled to put the blame on herself than some other person," said Cynthia. "That's the type of person Casey is."

Just cracks me up LOL oh yeah "that is just the kind of person she is" LMAO

Yeah, that broke me up some.

"That is just the type of person Casey is."

Casey will take the blame for anything, according to Cindy.. She's even compelled herself to take the fall for Caylee's death so that the heinous criminal that did this brutal crime can WALK.

WHEN PIGS FLY.

[Tia]

I just think its curious that casey anthony only told MALES that her brother tried to molest her. Why didnt she tell any FEMALES?


I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.

[Explorer]

I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.

Yes she told the potential husbands. She wanted to have them form a bad opinion of Lee.

[happygert]

From this link: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...y%20july24.pdf

George has a sister, Ruthie, who is married to an engineer who travels alot, and they live in The Carolinas, (strange he didn't say South or North, rather just The Carolinas). He has plenty of money and 50k would be a mere drop in the bucket to him.

The other sister is the one with 'head' issues per George.

didn't georges family refuse to help with any money for casey.. IIRC someone said his one sister was married to a millionaire.. heck even Rick said he would not give one red cent for casey.

[Barbara fl.]

Yep me, me, me. I laughed when Cindy said....casey was a joy as a child, always has been a joy. Her kids are her life....with George sitting right there beside her. Somehow I don't think I could say that publicly about my daughter if she was a compulsive liar and a thief who didn't get the 1/2 credit she needed to graduate from HS and got pregnant by an unknown man, and couldn't keep a job to at least contribute to supporting herself and the child. Especially considering all the negative comments Cindy knew she had made about casey to her friends. :rolleyes:



I'm with you...I don't know how she was able to say that with a straight face.....

Casey was a problem her whole life....it finally esculated to murdering her own child....

[BlueTurtle]

How the defense is being funded is privildged informaton. JMO

If at some time in the future the defense files to have the state cover any costs for the defense, could the state request and receive information as to how it was funded until that moment?

[Sandy001]

Just the opposite, I'd think. There is no statute of limitations on murder, but there is on the fraud charges. They want to get her while they still can! :thumbsup: I bbelieve the statute of limitations only refers to the limit of time with which she can be charged with the check charges. She's already been charged.

I say, just get it over with. She was charged with those charges BEFORE the murder charges, so I don't see what the reason is that she can't be tried on them first. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER AT ALL. Just like ZG's defamation of character law suit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER.

The defense wants them delayed because Baez is not, nor has he ever been doing anything to defend her in that case. He has a right to delay the speedy trial, but the judge doesn't have to accept it.

Anyone want to join me in a campaign - to STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR CASEY AND THE ANTHONY FAMILY?

[margaritaville]

I just think its curious that casey anthony only told MALES that her brother tried to molest her. Why didnt she tell any FEMALES?

You are right......

Was it to make sure they never like Lee? But why would she want her boyfriend(s) to not like her own brother?? Was it to make sure that they never talk to him? Was she afraid that Lee was going to tell them things about Casey that she doesn't want them to know???

MOO

MOO

[happygert]

Yes she told the potential husbands. She wanted to have them form a bad opinion of Lee.

IMO she wanted them to stay away from Lee so they didn't compare stories casey told them..So she made up the incest story..

[Barbara fl.]

(Wow this work orientation thing is definitely culture shock for me!)


Did you notice

I want to see her face
I want to see her smile
I want to do the things with her that we used to do
I want her to read...etc,........
I/WE
I/WE.....


No I BET CAYLEE CANT WAIT TO GET BACT TO HER THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER....or CAYLEE IS GOING TO WANT ME TO MAKE HER FAVOURITE MEAL...


ALL what I or WE want...


You are so right....What about Caylee never going to first grade....or never having her first boyfriend, or never knowing what it would be like to fall in love and have a family....Her little life was cut short of going to kindergarten....How sad.....

[snap4]

I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.

AGREE 100% You hit the nail on the head!

[happygert]

You are right......

Was it to make sure they never like Lee? But why would she not want her boyfriend(s) to not like her own brother?? Was it to make sure that they never talk to him? Was she afraid that Lee was going to tell them things about Casey that she doesn't want them to know???

MOO

MOO

Exactly... ITA...

[Explorer]

didn't georges family refuse to help with any money for casey.. IIRC someone said his one sister was married to a millionaire.. heck even Rick said he would not give one red cent for casey.

Sounds like george and cindy were resentful because other family members were better off financially.

[Lapis]

If at some time in the future the defense files to have the state cover any costs for the defense, could the state request and receive information as to how it was funded until that moment?

IIRC the state does know how it has been funded thus far. There was a court hearing behind closed doors.

I've never had to apply for state funds so I'm not sure what they ask for, but I'm not sure it matters as long as the defendant can show that she has no funds to continue the defense. You cannot force a third party to continue to pay for her defense.

JMO

[Barbara fl.]

I bbelieve the statute of limitations only refers to the limit of time with which she can be charged with the check charges. She's already been charged.

I say, just get it over with. She was charged with those charges BEFORE the murder charges, so I don't see what the reason is that she can't be tried on them first. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER AT ALL. Just like ZG's defamation of character law suit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER.

The defense wants them delayed because Baez is not, nor has he ever been doing anything to defend her in that case. He has a right to delay the speedy trial, but the judge doesn't have to accept it.

Anyone want to join me in a campaign - to STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR CASEY AND THE ANTHONY FAMILY?


Your right...if it was anyone else...this first case of the checks would have been over with already.....The state should sock it too her with everything they have....Let that "dream team" work for their publicity....
:mad:

[sammy62]

(Wow this work orientation thing is definitely culture shock for me!)


Did you notice

I want to see her face
I want to see her smile
I want to do the things with her that we used to do
I want her to read...etc,........
I/WE
I/WE.....


No I BET CAYLEE CANT WAIT TO GET BACT TO HER THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER....or CAYLEE IS GOING TO WANT ME TO MAKE HER FAVOURITE MEAL...


ALL what I or WE want...

This is by far the best interview I have seen of Cindy. Had she stayed like this....even with the "I's", we would never have started the disgust campaign about her.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

[happygert]

I bbelieve the statute of limitations only refers to the limit of time with which she can be charged with the check charges. She's already been charged.

I say, just get it over with. She was charged with those charges BEFORE the murder charges, so I don't see what the reason is that she can't be tried on them first. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER AT ALL. Just like ZG's defamation of character law suit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER.

The defense wants them delayed because Baez is not, nor has he ever been doing anything to defend her in that case. He has a right to delay the speedy trial, but the judge doesn't have to accept it.

Anyone want to join me in a campaign - to STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR CASEY AND THE ANTHONY FAMILY?

count me in.. This is ridiculous they way the a's are treated like royalty.. anyone else would have already had a new set of bracelets and new bedroom.. Why does these people get by with all they've done to hinder this case..

[Lapis]

I bbelieve the statute of limitations only refers to the limit of time with which she can be charged with the check charges. She's already been charged.

I say, just get it over with. She was charged with those charges BEFORE the murder charges, so I don't see what the reason is that she can't be tried on them first. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER AT ALL. Just like ZG's defamation of character law suit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER.

The defense wants them delayed because Baez is not, nor has he ever been doing anything to defend her in that case. He has a right to delay the speedy trial, but the judge doesn't have to accept it.

Anyone want to join me in a campaign - to STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR CASEY AND THE ANTHONY FAMILY?

With all due respect she is not being treated preferentially. Civil cases are put on the inactive list everyday until after the criminal trial. Lesser charges are delayed until the conclusion of the more serious charges everyday. If she is convicted of the more serious charges the state can save the money on the lesser charges. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a capital case. JMO

[Barbara fl.]

I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.

Exactly....Casey knew just who to tell things to and who not to...

But how in the world did she ever keep up with all the lies? She must have practiced a whole lot....

I also find is amazing that Casey didn't break down when being questioned...she is such a pro at lying that she wouldn't break no matter what....

The average person, would have broke down....but not Casey...she was determined to get away with murder the same way she got away with everything else.....

[need2no]

You are so right....What about Caylee never going to first grade....or never having her first boyfriend, or never knowing what it would be like to fall in love and have a family....Her little life was cut short of going to kindergarten....How sad.....

I will NEVER understand if Cindy truly believed Caylee had been kidnapped why she didn't take this media opportunity to say something along the lines of....we pray that no harm will come to our beloved 2 year old granddaughter and that whoever has her will return her safely to us. Caylee is a precious innocent child and we are asking her captors to please do the right thing and return her to her family who misses and loves her very much.

The only logical explanation........Cindy knew there was no kidnapper.

[Unleashed]

I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.


I think a woman would have been more inclined to ask questions and see through it.


JMO

[margaritaville]

Exactly....Casey knew just who to tell things to and who not to...

But how in the world did she ever keep up with all the lies? She must have practiced a whole lot....

I also find is amazing that Casey didn't break down when being questioned...she is such a pro at lying that she wouldn't break no matter what....

The average person, would have broke down....but not Casey...she was determined to get away with murder the same way she got away with everything else.....

ITA.....

Remember this:

According to transcripts, she told a sheriff's deputy, "I have had interest in helping law enforcement from the beginning. Unfortunately my hands were literally tied and I was put in a position where someone's trying to trick a confession out of me. That's not going to happen."

http://www.abcactionnews.com/content/news/specialreports/caylee_anthony/story/Casey-Anthony-someones-trick-confession-Caylee/um0xWny1EUiSG8M3EKCtpA.cspx

[Cynthia]

I will NEVER understand if Cindy truly believed Caylee had been kidnapped why she didn't take this media opportunity to say something along the lines of....we pray that no harm will come to our beloved 2 year old granddaughter and that whoever has her will return her safely to us. Caylee is a precious innocent child and we are asking her captors to please do the right thing and return her to her family who misses and loves her very much.

The only logical explanation........Cindy knew there was no kidnapper.


I think the same thing. I believe Casey told Cindy what happened and now Cindy is still on the mission to protect her.

[Sandy001]

I've been searching around for some of the very, very early interviews that were done by the Anthonys. Here is one that I found interesting for several reasons. One, the zooming and closeups that show Cindy's eyebrows. Two, the minimal jewelry that Cindy is wearing... be sure to check out that left hand of hers and what is missing from it. This 7/17/2008 interview is where she talks about losing "two of my children."

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

OMG, Sun, that was illuminating. The BODY LANGUAGE between her and Geroge - he practically has his BACK to her. I think she was somewhat sincere in this interview. Two important things I noticed were:

1. This was denial and before denial turned into deceit.

2. This was before Caylee became the family's cash cow and before
Bling became more important than a missing child.

3. Cindy had real tears, instead of the fake tears she wiped away the other day on the interview.

[Explorer]

OMG, Sun, that was illuminating. The BODY LANGUAGE between her and Geroge - he practically has his BACK to her. I think she was somewhat sincere in this interview. Two important things I noticed were:

1. This was denial and before denial turned into deceit.

2. This was before Caylee became the family's cash cow and before
Bling became more important than a missing child.

3. Cindy had real tears, instead of the fake tears she wiped away the other day on the interview.

And we watched it unfold before our very eyes.

[Barbara fl.]

With all due respect she is not being treated preferentially. Civil cases are put on the inactive list everyday until after the criminal trial. Lesser charges are delayed until the conclusion of the more serious charges everyday. If she is convicted of the more serious charges the state can save the money on the lesser charges. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a capital case. JMO


That would certainly be correct under normal circumstances...however, I tend to go along with trying her on the check charges prior to the murder trial.

Just suppose the murder trial brings in a "hung jury"...some sympathizer out there with money might just post a bond for her to be released while awaiting a new trial (which could very well take a year or two)....But if Casey is found guilty of the check charges, she will go directly to jail for that and the state is sure of her being incarcerated while awaiting a new trial for murder....

Just a thought...I could be wrong....

[Explorer]

That would certainly be correct under normal circumstances...however, I tend to go along with trying her on the check charges prior to the murder trial.

Just suppose the murder trial brings in a "hung jury"...some sympathizer out there with money might just post a bond for her to be released while awaiting a new trial (which could very well take a year or two)....But if Casey is found guilty of the check charges, she will go directly to jail for that and the state is sure of her being incarcerated while awaiting a new trial for murder....

Just a thought...I could be wrong....

I think ya nailed it fla.

[need2no]

This is by far the best interview I have seen of Cindy. Had she stayed like this....even with the "I's", we would never have started the disgust campaign about her.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html


I agree...she seemed so uh, normal. However I did find it interesting that she said the whole reason we keep beating ourselves up with the media is because unfortunately any exposure for Caylee.....
the whole purpose #1 of going to the media was to find Caylee.

So what's their excuse for the media blitz since Caylee was found in December?

[Sandy001]

NO WAY!!! I am missing everything lately!!!!
Nothing surprises me about this family!
I think this is a family with very large skeletons in their closets and they are fighting like mad to keep them locked up. I think Casey knows something that will blow that family apart, and Cindy knows that Casey knows it and will use it if she needs to.

As far as an affair for Cindy, all bets are out the window on her. Her behavior towards Rob Dick during the Blanchard Park search showed me that she is not above having sexual relations with anyone. Frankly, I was waiting for her to grope him.
moo

[Pruddennce]

The day will forever go down in history when Cindy takes the stand at Casey's murder trial. How in heck is she ever going to remember all the lies and inconsistencies? Will they arrest her on perjury? She said herself that "lying is not a criminal offense", but under oath wouldn't that mean a bit more.

and Cindy's mindset that 'CASEY lying about her job' had nothing to do with Caylee's 'missing status'.

HUH?????

IMO

best regards,
PRu

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[darcie]

Thanks. Why do you think they want to proceed with the fraud charges. Can it be used in the murder trial?

I am definitely not a lawyer. I am not even a wanna be lawyer...lol.

BUT, I would think being able to show her demeanor prior to the report of Caylee missing would be a plus for the prosecution. Especially if they could tell the jury that she has been convicted of forgery, and fraud! I am wondering if it doesn't go to trial before the murder charges, will it even be able to be "brought-up" in front of a jury?

[Barbara fl.]

ITA.....

Remember this:

According to transcripts, she told a sheriff's deputy, "I have had interest in helping law enforcement from the beginning. Unfortunately my hands were literally tied and I was put in a position where someone's trying to trick a confession out of me. That's not going to happen."

http://www.abcactionnews.com/content/news/specialreports/caylee_anthony/story/Casey-Anthony-someones-trick-confession-Caylee/um0xWny1EUiSG8M3EKCtpA.cspx

And lets face it...How can anyone's hands be tied as not to help LE in finding your missing child...? I wouldn't care if she was in jail with restraints on her legs and hands....nothing would have stopped anyone from helping to find their missing child......(unless they knew that thier missing child was dead by thier own hands)..which is exactly what the case was.....Casey has no excuse for anything that she did..she is only trying to worm her way out of this....but it's not going to work...she has reached the end of her road of lies.....

[Explorer]

I am definitely not a lawyer. I am not even a wanna be lawyer...lol.

BUT, I would think being able to show her demeanor prior to the report of Caylee missing would be a plus for the prosecution. Especially if they could tell the jury that she has been convicted of forgery, and fraud! I am wondering if it doesn't go to trial before the murder charges, will it even be able to be "brought-up" in front of a jury?

Thats what im wondering.

[Barbara fl.]

I will NEVER understand if Cindy truly believed Caylee had been kidnapped why she didn't take this media opportunity to say something along the lines of....we pray that no harm will come to our beloved 2 year old granddaughter and that whoever has her will return her safely to us. Caylee is a precious innocent child and we are asking her captors to please do the right thing and return her to her family who misses and loves her very much.

The only logical explanation........Cindy knew there was no kidnapper.


For sure...Cindy and George knew the very first night with the odor in that car...that is why Cindy told George "we lost our Caylee"...."lost" is a powerful word in this case.....they knew she was deceased....

[Barbara fl.]

I am definitely not a lawyer. I am not even a wanna be lawyer...lol.

BUT, I would think being able to show her demeanor prior to the report of Caylee missing would be a plus for the prosecution. Especially if they could tell the jury that she has been convicted of forgery, and fraud! I am wondering if it doesn't go to trial before the murder charges, will it even be able to be "brought-up" in front of a jury?

Scott Peterson's behavior while Laci and Conner were missing, got him the DP.....Yes, your right...behavior means a whole lot....

[need2no]

I think the same thing. I believe Casey told Cindy what happened and now Cindy is still on the mission to protect her.

I'm inclined to think that Cindy only WANTS casey and the public to believe she is trying to protect her, when in fact that is not her true mission at this point in time. I believe she knows casey is a lost cause and she will likely spend the rest of her life in prison, Cindy is just interested in drumming up more drama for financial reasons.

[Lapis]

That would certainly be correct under normal circumstances...however, I tend to go along with trying her on the check charges prior to the murder trial.

Just suppose the murder trial brings in a "hung jury"...some sympathizer out there with money might just post a bond for her to be released while awaiting a new trial (which could very well take a year or two)....But if Casey is found guilty of the check charges, she will go directly to jail for that and the state is sure of her being incarcerated while awaiting a new trial for murder....

Just a thought...I could be wrong....

There is no bond for murder. It doesn't matter how many sympathetic people are out there. She will remain in jail until the retrial.

Your logic speaks more of vengence than what is proper. You already have her convicted of the murder charges. The court does not look at it the same way. In their eyes she is innocent until proven guilty. The law does not punish people until they are convicted. If there is a hung jury then she will receive the same consideration as every other defendant in her position. She will be an unconvicted defendant.

If there is some reason for the charges to go forward they will. But I suspect the court is more concerned with her ability to prepare for the capital case and receive a fair trial. If that means putting off the fraud charges that's the breaks. I don't, however, think this is any indication that she is receiving special treatment. This happens everyday.

JMO

[happygert]

I think the same thing. I believe Casey told Cindy what happened and now Cindy is still on the mission to protect her.

They absolutely knew when they picked the car up no doubt in my mind. I 'm just wondering how long before that, did c know?. I just can't get the statement that c made about giving her 30 days already out of my mind...

[Barbara fl.]

How about this? (I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.)

If Casey is tried on the economic crimes, found guilty and sentenced to prison, can she be sent there immediately to await the murder trial? If so, maybe this is a plan to let her see how unpleasant it can be and she had better plea out and maybe not get LWOP.


You have a very good point....under normal circumstances, she would go directly to the big house....but i'm not too sure, seeing as this case is so high profile, the state might still have to keep her safe until the trial on the murder charges....I don't think they would want anything to happen to her while awaiting trial....but i'm not too sure.....

[Tia]

Exactly....Casey knew just who to tell things to and who not to...

But how in the world did she ever keep up with all the lies? She must have practiced a whole lot....

I also find is amazing that Casey didn't break down when being questioned...she is such a pro at lying that she wouldn't break no matter what....

The average person, would have broke down....but not Casey...she was determined to get away with murder the same way she got away with everything else.....


Remember, most of her friends knew she was a liar, Lee knew she was a liar. It is amazing that she hasn't broken yet, but pathalogical liars actually believe their own lies.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_tell_if_someone_is_a_pathological_liar

[Lavinia]

How about this? (I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.)

If Casey is tried on the economic crimes, found guilty and sentenced to prison, can she be sent there immediately to await the murder trial? If so, maybe this is a plan to let her see how unpleasant it can be and she had better plea out and maybe not get LWOP.

I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn, My but I'm going to take a stab at the question, lol. I don't think they would send her to a prison when she has a capital case taking place. Prisons are for long term housing and it would be *really* inconvenient for her to receive counsel at prison or to attend all the hearings. Prisons don't like to "chain out" inmates very often. I may be dead wrong, but I *think* they would house her at the jail pending the resolution of her murder trial.

[Explorer]

He was tried for second degree murder and posted his bail. His case also took place in California where the bail rules may be different. Here the court has indicated there is no bail. JMO

Just as long as she stays in jail

[Sun]

This is by far the best interview I have seen of Cindy. Had she stayed like this....even with the "I's", we would never have started the disgust campaign about her.

http://www.wftv.com/video/16914628/index.html

This is one of the first interviews that I believe Cindy ever did. IMO, at that point in time, she didn't appear to project the "it's the Anthony family against the world" attitude.

[Barbara fl.]

There is no bond for murder. It doesn't matter how many sympathetic people are out there. She will remain in jail until the retrial.

Your logic speaks more of vengence than what is proper. You already have her convicted of the murder charges. The court does not look at it the same way. In their eyes she is innocent until proven guilty. The law does not punish people until they are convicted. If there is a hung jury then she will receive the same consideration as every other defendant in her position. She will be an unconvicted defendant.

If there is some reason for the charges to go forward they will. But I suspect the court is more concerned with her ability to prepare for the capital case and receive a fair trial. If that means putting off the fraud charges that's the breaks. I don't, however, think this is any indication that she is receiving special treatment. This happens everyday.

JMO


I guess I was going on the PS case...he was free while awaiting a new trial....As for being innocent until proven guilty...if that be true then Casey wouldn't be sitting in jail right now....I wouldn't consider being in jail a vacation.....

My vengence is the same as everyone else's....we all know that Casey murdered her child....

I would love for her to be convicted...however, due to some sympathizers out there (like the ones who are sending her money) might just end up on the jury.....therefore, I would like to go along with the state in trying her for the checks first, for a little insurance....JMO

[Barbara fl.]

Remember, most of her friends knew she was a liar, Lee knew she was a liar. It is amazing that she hasn't broken yet, but pathalogical liars actually believe their own lies.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_tell_if_someone_is_a_pathological_liar

I guess your right....they start to believe their own lies...I guess that's the only way the don't forget them....

[apothecary]

For sure...Cindy and George knew the very first night with the odor in that car...that is why Cindy told George "we lost our Caylee"...."lost" is a powerful word in this case.....they knew she was deceased....
She said that rather calmly almost like it wasn't a big surprise.I think there were a few threats shouted by Casey as she dragged Caylee out the door.Probably something like you will never see her again or I will kill her before you ever see her again:sad:

[darcie]

I think in some sick way she thought she would gain sympathy and protection from these men, that they would take care of her.

IMO, Casey made up the whole story and she didn't tell a female because a female may have urged her to tell someone, to get help. Then Casey would be caught in a lie.



I agree with you. Except I don't think she told any female friends because it wasn't advantageous to her. NOW, i do think that if a female friend was sexually abused, and was talking to Casey about it, Casey too then would have said the same happened to her!

just MOO.

[Barbara fl.]

I forgot what the half a million dollar bond was for....the bond that Lenny Padilla put up the 50,000 for....was that for the check charges?

[Sun]

They absolutely knew when they picked the car up no doubt in my mind. I 'm just wondering how long before that, did c know?. I just can't get the statement that c made about giving her 30 days already out of my mind...

I expect that a Jury may have the same questions and concerns as you do. It's something that I wonder about. IMO, George or Cindy "knew" no later than the week of July 4th, and may have "known" even earlier than that.

[Sandy001]

Scott Peterson's behavior while Laci and Conner were missing, got him the DP.....Yes, your right...behavior means a whole lot....
It's called consciousness of guilt and is admissable in CA. Not sure about Florida.

[Barbara fl.]

She said that rather calmly almost like it wasn't a big surprise.I think there were a few threats shouted by Casey as she dragged Caylee out the door.Probably something like you will never see her again or I will kill her before you ever see her again:sad:


Your right...It was almost like they were expecting something bad to happen.....

[Lapis]

I guess I was going on the PS case...he was free while awaiting a new trial....As for being innocent until proven guilty...if that be true then Casey wouldn't be sitting in jail right now....I wouldn't consider being in jail a vacation.....

My vengence is the same as everyone else's....we all know that Casey murdered her child....

I would love for her to be convicted...however, due to some sympathizers out there (like the ones who are sending her money) might just end up on the jury.....therefore, I would like to go along with the state in trying her for the checks first, for a little insurance....JMO

The court has determined she is not eligible for bail. I presume that is due to the laws of the state of Florida and not because she is presumed guilty. As I said, in this country we do not punish people for crimes they have not been convicted of.

I do not know that Casey is guilty, I believe it but I do not know it.

The only point that I was making is that Casey is not receiving any special treatment. She is being treated just like every other defendant in her position. The delay of the charges happens every day and if that is a benefit afforded to other defendants why should it not be afforded to Casey?

JMO

[nothingnew]

good morning

trying to catch up...so if this has been discussed...sorry.

somewhere IIRC, George says he has a rich brother. Could that be the money train?

I was under the impression it was a rich brother in law. IMO you don't get rich or stay rich by opening your wallet to an anthony.

[Lapis]

I forgot what the half a million dollar bond was for....the bond that Lenny Padilla put up the 50,000 for....was that for the check charges?

That was for the child endangerment charges. JMO

[Barbara fl.]

It's called consciousness of guilt and is admissable in CA. Not sure about Florida.


I think your right...Florida sort of makes up the rules as the go....Casey picked the wrong state to go against....JMO

[apothecary]

It's called consciousness of guilt and is admissable in CA. Not sure about Florida.
Goddess of the typos:laugh:Love it

[Sandy001]

As "juicy" as the gossip may be, I found it to be a comfort that Lee was NOT caylees bio-father.....That STILL does not rule out an inappropriate relationship between the two siblings (in some odd manner).....

This kind of behaviour is just so foreign....and so unnecessary in life.....

....and it's not like they are trying to protect some massive estate and "keeping it in the family"......Right now, the ONLY plus would be that FAMILY MIGHT BE taking care of some of caseys financial obligations and NOT THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA....its just sick and sickening.


Let's hope all of this is just rumor....

The whole rumor about Lee and Casey started with Casey telling her friends so I don't think we can be blamed for it. Look to the source.

[Barbara fl.]

The court has determined she is not eligible for bail. I presume that is due to the laws of the state of Florida and not because she is presumed guilty. As I said, in this country we do not punish people for crimes they have not been convicted of.

I do not know that Casey is guilty, I believe it but I do not know it.

The only point that I was making is that Casey is not receiving any special treatment. She is being treated just like every other defendant in her position. The delay of the charges happens every day and if that is a benefit afforded to other defendants why should it not be afforded to Casey?

JMO


I'm not disputing the legality part of it...I was just giving my opinion on it....I just have strong feeling against child murderers....And there is no doubt in my mind as to who murdered Caylee....I wouldn't allow myself to be on that jury if I was to be chosen...because of my strong feelings toward Casey....

I want to see her get a fare trial....as long as it ends with a conviction....Sorry...:wink:

[Mandymax]

They absolutely knew when they picked the car up no doubt in my mind. I 'm just wondering how long before that, did c know?. I just can't get the statement that c made about giving her 30 days already out of my mind...

I don't take that quote to mean anything. I think Cindy was simply responding to Casey's own wording of "Give me one more day." "I already gave you thirty days," to me, refers to the fact that while Cindy might have been missing Caylee and bugging Casey to bring her by, she bided her time, gave Casey numerous chances to make an appearance on her own, and didn't take it upon herself to actually track Casey down until a month later. Semantics, nothing more.

As always, my own opinion.

[Lavinia]

The court has determined she is not eligible for bail. I presume that is due to the laws of the state of Florida and not because she is presumed guilty. As I said, in this country we do not punish people for crimes they have not been convicted of.

I do not know that Casey is guilty, I believe it but I do not know it.

The only point that I was making is that Casey is not receiving any special treatment. She is being treated just like every other defendant in her position. The delay of the charges happens every day and if that is a benefit afforded to other defendants why should it not be afforded to Casey?

JMO

I agree. I don't see in any way that Casey is being afforded ANY special treatment. This is the way it goes for people not yet convicted. Patience. The time will come... :drool:

[happygert]

I expect that a Jury may have the same questions and concerns as you do. It's something that I wonder about. IMO, George or Cindy "knew" no later than the week of July 4th, and may have "known" even earlier than that.

exactly c's my space page on July 3rd.

[nothingnew]

I think Casey does not know who the father is, I think it's all BS and these incest rumors need to be put to rest once and for all.

If somebody has actual proof that there is incest going around in that family then please post, other than that it's just hearsay.

I think she does know who's the daddy but other than that I agree with your post. It's gotten where someone posts that something is a "known fact" and yet there are no links to the fact and a lot of people just run with it because it was posted on a message board and thus a "fact" is "born". You'd think there'd be a link to a documented fact.

[Sun]

The court has determined she is not eligible for bail. I presume that is due to the laws of the state of Florida and not because she is presumed guilty. As I said, in this country we do not punish people for crimes they have not been convicted of.

I do not know that Casey is guilty, I believe it but I do not know it.

The only point that I was making is that Casey is not receiving any special treatment. She is being treated just like every other defendant in her position. The delay of the charges happens every day and if that is a benefit afforded to other defendants why should it not be afforded to Casey?

JMO

chuckles.... and I want to think that Casey is very frustrated in the slow pace that her case is taking. I want to think that protective custody (solitary) is starving Casey for the one thing that she lives her life for. Attention.

[Sandy001]

if she goes to trial for all the check charges and is found guilty, (no brainer), will she be sent to state prison or continue at the county jail awaiting trial for murder? would love to see her at the "big house"!! Depends on the length of the sentence, at least it is here. Anything a year or less is spent in County jail here and in two other states I am aware of. Anything over that requies a trip to the "big house."

[sammy62]

How about this? (I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.)

If Casey is tried on the economic crimes, found guilty and sentenced to prison, can she be sent there immediately to await the murder trial? If so, maybe this is a plan to let her see how unpleasant it can be and she had better plea out and maybe not get LWOP.

If she did get acquitted for murder 1 (God forbid)....would her time spent in jail count towards her check fraud sentence.

[Sandy001]

Yes, they can show the video of her shopping and comment that she is not purchasing anything for Caylee or she doesn't appear to be concerned, but cannot comment on where the funds for the purchases came from in the murder trial. If she is convicted of the check fraud charges and takes the stand in the murder case they can use the conviction to impeach her (not that they really need it with all the other evidence of her reputation for truth and veracity). If the prosecution is attempting to weave a theory that she had no money and was thrown out of the house and killed Caylee because she could not afford to keep her then I suppose that they could use the check fraud conviction. But then again, if that is their theory then I would argue that the cases should be tried together. They cannot just gratuitously mention her check fraud conviction because the law does not allow prior convictions to be used as evidence in trials especially if the charges are not similar.

Having said all that, the prosecution does understand that with the publicity this case is receiving the jury will be aware of the check fraud conviction without having to mention it.

JMO If she is convicted on the check charges, can't that also influence her sentence (a repeat offender so to speak) I know it counts in two other states. Of course, this only would apply if the defense attempts to plead her down to a lesser charge like manslaughter.

[Tia]

I think the judge would agree with you. But I still think that this case will never see the jury. Baez might be a Bozo but his "team" knows this case is un-winnable

What would happen if Casey insisted despite what Jose said? Can she do that?

[Sandy001]

The day will forever go down in history when Cindy takes the stand at Casey's murder trial. How in heck is she ever going to remember all the lies and inconsistencies? Will they arrest her on perjury? She said herself that "lying is not a criminal offense", but under oath wouldn't that mean a bit more.
I find Cindy's "lying is not a criminal offense" comment a bit ridiculous since isn't that one of the charges that Casey was arrested on? Lying to LE?

[nothingnew]

I just think its curious that casey anthony only told MALES that her brother tried to molest her. Why didnt she tell any FEMALES?

I think casey is only concerned with females when she can get something out of it for herself-money, or in the case of kissing girls-male attention. Money, male attention, pork rinds, pop tarts-not necessarily in that order. If a guy has sympathy for her, great! If it's a female she only needs sympathy for gas money-not "hugs". jmo, I think she's a psycho, period. None of this "I love/I hate", just "I want" and "you're in my way".

[Sun]

For sure...Cindy and George knew the very first night with the odor in that car...that is why Cindy told George "we lost our Caylee"...."lost" is a powerful word in this case.....they knew she was deceased....

Yes, they knew. At times I wonder just how long Cindy's mind had been struggling with this. In re-listening/watching old videos, Cindy does at times let phrases/thoughts escape from her mind, which are much easier for me to understand today, than back in 2008. IMO, she "slipped" in that last 911 call. And, perhaps she also "slipped" when she posted on her MySpace page the week of July 4th.

[Tia]

Yes, they knew. At times I wonder just how long Cindy's mind had been struggling with this. In re-listening/watching old videos, Cindy does at times let phrases/thoughts escape from her mind, which are much easier for me to understand today, than back in 2008. IMO, she "slipped" in that last 911 call. And, perhaps she also "slipped" when she posted on her MySpace page the week of July 4th.

Why do you think she slipped in the 911 call? I am really curious to know what you are thinking!! I have always thought the 911 call was the closest we will ever get to Cindy being truthful.

[Imperfect4]

I will NEVER understand if Cindy truly believed Caylee had been kidnapped why she didn't take this media opportunity to say something along the lines of....we pray that no harm will come to our beloved 2 year old granddaughter and that whoever has her will return her safely to us. Caylee is a precious innocent child and we are asking her captors to please do the right thing and return her to her family who misses and loves her very much.

The only logical explanation........Cindy knew there was no kidnapper.

Hey n2n!

What you posted is exactly what I would expect to hear from the family of a "missing" toddler.

I think there might be another explanation for Cindy's behavior, though.

I don't think Cindy has the capacity to empathize. She literally has no idea how others feel. The only feelings she knows about are her own. When Caylee was "missing," all Cindy could feel was how she missed Caylee. She could not put herself in Caylee's shoes to imagine a child who might be hurt, terrified, hungry, tired, dirty, alone, etc. I think her utter lack of empathy could be why we never heard normal concern from her regarding Caylee's welfare. It just made me nuts.

Now, I could be all wet and indeed, Cindy's lack of discussion of how Caylee might be feeling while "missing" was because she already knew Caylee was dead.

But I really don't think Cindy can extend herself past herself to step into the shoes of others and understand how they feel. Imo, it's the narcissism that causes her lack of sensitivity to others.

Ugh.

Poor Caylee.

[Sandy001]

You are so right.....I too doubt that Dr. Baden will have a roll in this trial...and Henry Lee is only going to make a bigger fool of himself....I doubt that Henry Lee will ever be able to make a comeback after the PS case...

But, I'm happy that Florida is taking precautionary steps just incase, to insure that Casey will not be allowed a bond in the event that a hung jury should arise....I believe that if Casey is found guilty of the check charges she will be held on those charges until a new triel for the murder charge.....

Thus insuring that Casey will, infact, never see the outside again...no matter what happens at the murder trial.....One thing is for certain, there is no way a jury of 12 will find her "not guilty" of murder....at the very least, if the defense really goes at it, they "MAY" be able to sway "one", weak link, causing a hung jury....JMO A hung jury has the same effect as if the trial were never held. She was arrested on murder (no bond) so the situation will still apply if she gets a hung jury. The only way KC will be able to get out of jail is if they drop the murder charge, if she gets a not guilty verdict, or if the state drops the charges. She's not going anywhere, contrary to what I believe Baez has told her.

[nothingnew]

With all due respect she is not being treated preferentially. Civil cases are put on the inactive list everyday until after the criminal trial. Lesser charges are delayed until the conclusion of the more serious charges everyday. If she is convicted of the more serious charges the state can save the money on the lesser charges. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a capital case. JMO

I don't see where she is getting preferential treatment either, I think it would be done the same way for anyone in a similar situation. What I'd like to know is can Amy file a civil suit against casey right now? I'd like to see her lose her commissary candy money.

[Sandy001]

With all due respect she is not being treated preferentially. Civil cases are put on the inactive list everyday until after the criminal trial. Lesser charges are delayed until the conclusion of the more serious charges everyday. If she is convicted of the more serious charges the state can save the money on the lesser charges. Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a capital case. JMO
I have a real problem with delaying the civil suit. It's not a "wrongful death" suit. It's a defamation suit. The defamation occured long before Casey was arrested on a charge of murder and long before it was even suspect ed that Caylee was dead.. The damages occured long before a murder was even suspected. Why should it WAIT until after the murder trial?

[kingfish]

In case no one else has found this yet

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%203011-3061%20f.pdf

But I don['t have time to really read it. I['m running late

Read ya later

[kingfish]

sorry, I forgot its on page 3022 bottom right for pg #

[Sandy001]

I would like to know what kind of a practice Conway has. I know that there is a way to look it up, but I don't know what it is. Is he desperate? Does he want to be another Raymond Burr? What is in this for him? Certainly not altruism. Nobody is that good.
He ran for judge in 2008. I think he took the case for publicity only. He didn't win his election.

[Sandy001]

I think your right...Florida sort of makes up the rules as the go....Casey picked the wrong state to go against....JMO


Barbara. I don't think Phil Spectre was up on Murder One charges. OJ was and he remained in jail until his trial was over I believe. It's only capital murder cases that have no bail and cases in which the judge deems there is a threat of the defendent running.

[Kat4Eagles]

I think she does know who's the daddy but other than that I agree with your post. It's gotten where someone posts that something is a "known fact" and yet there are no links to the fact and a lot of people just run with it because it was posted on a message board and thus a "fact" is "born". You'd think there'd be a link to a documented fact.


Hi Nothingnew:

This has been known to happen on other Message Boards here as well, so, its always a good thing to add JMO or IMO to your post, if you aren't sure of the complete accuracy and there is no link....

Most times we don't find out until after the trial just what was or wasn't true.

Then, there are the insiders who claim to know what it going on, and that you just have to decide for yourself....!!

This case has a real advantage of some truth coming out on almost a daily basis, because of the way the laws in Florida work...

And,I think we are very lucky to know all that we do, at this point, and although it is fun to speculate or gossip about who the father of Caylee may be, I suppose it could be harmful or hurtful.

But, on the other hand, I don't see any malicious gossip being spread as I have in other cases which had less known facts to deal with.

I think it is only human nature to speculate on who the father may be, when one is not known or listed on the birth certificate.

JMO
IMO
and all that !!
Kat

[legalmania]

The court has determined she is not eligible for bail. I presume that is due to the laws of the state of Florida and not because she is presumed guilty. As I said, in this country we do not punish people for crimes they have not been convicted of.

I do not know that Casey is guilty, I believe it but I do not know it.

The only point that I was making is that Casey is not receiving any special treatment. She is being treated just like every other defendant in her position. The delay of the charges happens every day and if that is a benefit afforded to other defendants why should it not be afforded to Casey?

JMO

May I add Lapis that this is a high profile case, and it seems like she's getting special treatment but if something happens to her the guards will be held responsible. The prisoners would like nothing better than to get their hands on her, and if she gets hurt they will get fired or reprimanded. They are under orders to make sure she stays safe.

[Imperfect4]

and Cindy's mindset that 'CASEY lying about her job' had nothing to do with Caylee's 'missing status'.

HUH?????

IMO

best regards,
PRu

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Cindy would like to pretend all that preceded Caylee's going "missing" had nothing to do with her fate.

Cindy, if given the opportunity, will also pretend all that happened after Caylee went "missing," but before she was found in December, has nothing to do her or her family.

Good luck with that, Cindy.

[Sandy001]

What would happen if Casey insisted despite what Jose said? Can she do that? ABSOLUTELY - and if she chooses NOT to take the stand, the Judge will ask her if SHE is waiving her right to do so. He will not ask her attorney.

[Unleashed]

Hey n2n!

What you posted is exactly what I would expect to hear from the family of a "missing" toddler.

I think there might be another explanation for Cindy's behavior, though.

I don't think Cindy has the capacity to empathize. She literally has no idea how others feel. The only feelings she knows about are her own. When Caylee was "missing," all Cindy could feel was how she missed Caylee. She could not put herself in Caylee's shoes to imagine a child who might be hurt, terrified, hungry, tired, dirty, alone, etc. I think her utter lack of empathy could be why we never heard normal concern from her regarding Caylee's welfare. It just made me nuts.

Now, I could be all wet and indeed, Cindy's lack of discussion of how Caylee might be feeling while "missing" was because she already knew Caylee was dead.

But I really don't think Cindy can extend herself past herself to step into the shoes of others and understand how they feel. Imo, it's the narcissism that causes her lack of sensitivity to others.

Ugh.

Poor Caylee.

Imp, if you're all wet, it's raining here too.
I was floored when she said that she should have been home taking care of herself after Caylee's memorial and instead was helping get the media involved in Haleigh's disappearance.
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.

jmo

[apothecary]

Hey n2n!

What you posted is exactly what I would expect to hear from the family of a "missing" toddler.

I think there might be another explanation for Cindy's behavior, though.

I don't think Cindy has the capacity to empathize. She literally has no idea how others feel. The only feelings she knows about are her own. When Caylee was "missing," all Cindy could feel was how she missed Caylee. She could not put herself in Caylee's shoes to imagine a child who might be hurt, terrified, hungry, tired, dirty, alone, etc. I think her utter lack of empathy could be why we never heard normal concern from her regarding Caylee's welfare. It just made me nuts.

Now, I could be all wet and indeed, Cindy's lack of discussion of how Caylee might be feeling while "missing" was because she already knew Caylee was dead.

But I really don't think Cindy can extend herself past herself to step into the shoes of others and understand how they feel. Imo, it's the narcissism that causes her lack of sensitivity to others.

Ugh.

Poor Caylee.
Interesting take on Cindy.But again I never once heard"Please don't hurt her" from any member of the family.

[Explorer]

Imp, if you're all wet, it's raining here too.
I was floored when she said that she should have been home taking care of herself after Caylee's memorial and instead was helping get the media involved in Haleigh's disappearance.
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.

jmo

And Haleighs familly told her to GET LOST.:biggrin:

[Chardonnay]

Yep me, me, me. I laughed when Cindy said....casey was a joy as a child, always has been a joy. Her kids are her life....with George sitting right there beside her. Somehow I don't think I could say that publicly about my daughter if she was a compulsive liar and a thief who didn't get the 1/2 credit she needed to graduate from HS and got pregnant by an unknown man, and couldn't keep a job to at least contribute to supporting herself and the child. Especially considering all the negative comments Cindy knew she had made about casey to her friends. :rolleyes:

I was waiting for someone to post what I was thinking !! :thumbsup:

[Sandy001]

Hi Nothingnew:

This has been known to happen on other Message Boards here as well, so, its always a good thing to add JMO or IMO to your post, if you aren't sure of the complete accuracy and there is no link....

Most times we don't find out until after the trial just what was or wasn't true.

Then, there are the insiders who claim to know what it going on, and that you just have to decide for yourself....!!

This case has a real advantage of some truth coming out on almost a daily basis, because of the way the laws in Florida work...

And,I think we are very lucky to know all that we do, at this point, and although it is fun to speculate or gossip about who the father of Caylee may be, I suppose it could be harmful or hurtful.

But, on the other hand, I don't see any malicious gossip being spread as I have in other cases which had less facts known to deal with.

I think it is only normal to specualate on who the father may be, when one is not known or listed on the birth certificate.

JMO
IMO
and all that !!
Kat

I agree wholeheartedly. Given how much Casey seems to need money, I am quite surprised that she did not reveal the name of the father. Could Cindy have been behind that (wanting Caylee for Cindy, not for anyone else). I know in CA, you HAVE to provide the name of the father if you want any assistance from the state. The state will then go after the father for financial assistance. Would Casey have been willing to forego any financial help or did Cindy convince her that THEY (Cindy and George) would provide all that was needed.?

[enigma™]

And Haleighs familly told her to GET LOST.:biggrin:

That was the best thing that happened in the past year (other than recovering Caylee's remains). :thumbup:

[Explorer]

They were going to USE Haleigh and her family to promote their fraudation.

[Explorer]

And Ron being the man that he is would have none of it:smile:

[enigma™]

And Ron being the man that he is would have none of it:smile:


He saw right through them. They are quite transparent.

[need2no]

Hey n2n!

What you posted is exactly what I would expect to hear from the family of a "missing" toddler.

I think there might be another explanation for Cindy's behavior, though.

I don't think Cindy has the capacity to empathize. She literally has no idea how others feel. The only feelings she knows about are her own. When Caylee was "missing," all Cindy could feel was how she missed Caylee. She could not put herself in Caylee's shoes to imagine a child who might be hurt, terrified, hungry, tired, dirty, alone, etc. I think her utter lack of empathy could be why we never heard normal concern from her regarding Caylee's welfare. It just made me nuts.

Now, I could be all wet and indeed, Cindy's lack of discussion of how Caylee might be feeling while "missing" was because she already knew Caylee was dead.

But I really don't think Cindy can extend herself past herself to step into the shoes of others and understand how they feel. Imo, it's the narcissism that causes her lack of sensitivity to others.

Ugh.

Poor Caylee.

I most certainly do agree with you. To me Cindy has proven her lack of empathy over and over this past year. For the life of me I don't know how she could have managed not to fall apart right in front of the cameras if she had any sincere empathy in her heart. There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that in her shoes I would be a basket case and would cry everytime I spoke of my precious granddaughter. I also think it's possible she knew in her heart of hearts that it was very very probable that Caylee was dead, regardless of her words to the contrary. The fact that Cindy didn't even attempt to FAKE a request to the 'kidnapper' to return Caylee safely shows her lack of empathy. What's really sick is she didn't and probably still doesn't even realize how pathetic and shocking that is to normal folk. Cindy is one cold fish who created another cold fish.

[Imperfect4]

I think she does know who's the daddy but other than that I agree with your post. It's gotten where someone posts that something is a "known fact" and yet there are no links to the fact and a lot of people just run with it because it was posted on a message board and thus a "fact" is "born". You'd think there'd be a link to a documented fact.

My bolding ...

I disagree with your statement as it pertains to the Caylee threads. I've seen a rumor or bit of misinformation "take off" here ... for perhaps one page in a thread before it is debunked. But that's the extent of it.

There are many more people in this forum interested in facts and links than there are people who enjoy spreading rumor and innuendo.

And I'm not even adding "imo" because this is a fact, Jack. :smile:

[legalmania]

I have a real problem with delaying the civil suit. It's not a "wrongful death" suit. It's a defamation suit. The defamation occured long before Casey was arrested on a charge of murder and long before it was even suspect ed that Caylee was dead.. The damages occured long before a murder was even suspected. Why should it WAIT until after the murder trial?

They don't have to wait for the civil suit as a matter in the Higbee case the officer who was held responsible for the accidental death of those two girls when he ran a stop sign, they held the civil suit before the criminal suit. The jury found him innocent in the criminal case.

[need2no]

I was waiting for someone to post what I was thinking !! :thumbsup:

Glad I could be of service! :biggrin:

[Tia]

ABSOLUTELY - and if she chooses NOT to take the stand, the Judge will ask her if SHE is waiving her right to do so. He will not ask her attorney.

Thank you!

[kanzz]

I'm waaaay behind here, and just started reading pg 1. I should prob read further before asking this, but if I wait I'll forget. sry

Reading the speculation that Casey might have been fathered by Geo's brother. Wow. Reminds me of that old hillbilly song - I'm My Own Grandpa.

Anyway - it brings to mind a question I've had for some time. Is it just me, or do y'all find it peculiar that none of the family's former friends, relatives, etc., have been interviewed by the media or have posted anywhere (or maybe they have and I don't know it)? If it were one of my daughters accused of a heinous crime, everyone would know everything about my past by now.

I'm just surprised that very little of this family's past has come to light. Do you think maybe this means their dirty little secrets are known by the DA and they've been asked to keep quiet until they testify at trial perhaps?

I've been craving info about family history. But then, I'm very nosey. And I'm in and out of here a lot... not enough time to keep up the way I'd like.

[Barbara fl.]

Good to be back!!!

One very interesting quotes in this article is:

"Included in the newly released documents are pictures from Casey's Photobucket.com Web account showing skulls and skeletons kissing.

Around the time investigators say Caylee was murdered, Casey uploaded a poster that reads, "That's done.""

Wonder what Casey was saying when she said "Thats done"?


Welcome aboard,,,

I can only imagine what she meant....and I think I would be right....Casey is one viscious individual....she needs to be off the streets....

[Sandy001]

May I add Lapis that this is a high profile case, and it seems like she's getting special treatment but if something happens to her the guards will be held responsible. The prisoners would like nothing better than to get their hands on her, and if she gets hurt they will get fired or reprimanded. They are under orders to make sure she stays safe.
Baez got permission to take his laptop into the atty-client room with him I have no doubt he is allowing her to use it. How else could she view. That is not normally the case because he had to get permission from the Judge for that. How did Casey see the "memorial service" for Caylee when she is in her cell 23 hours a day? She has to fit her legal training, showers, etc into that one hour a day and all the other prisoners have to be in their cells, yet somehow she manged to view the memorial service.

I think there is a lot going on that is prefrential treatment - her atty hugging her at least twice is preferential treatment in my opinion. Neither her atty or Casey have any respect for rules.

[Imperfect4]

He ran for judge in 2008. I think he took the case for publicity only. He didn't win his election.

I wonder how he can possibly believe championing the Anthonys is going to help him win the next election. :huh:

[need2no]

Imp, if you're all wet, it's raining here too.
I was floored when she said that she should have been home taking care of herself after Caylee's memorial and instead was helping get the media involved in Haleigh's disappearance.
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.

jmo

I was floored too.

That comment was gratuitous and deplorable, to say the least.

[Explorer]

Welcome aboard,,,

I can only imagine what she meant....and I think I would be right....Casey is one viscious individual....she needs to be off the streets....

So does her entire family.

[Tia]

Interesting take on Cindy.But again I never once heard"Please don't hurt her" from any member of the family.

Nope! Nor a public plea for her safe return and they had plenty of opportunity with all those TV appearances!!

[Barbara fl.]

Yes, they knew. At times I wonder just how long Cindy's mind had been struggling with this. In re-listening/watching old videos, Cindy does at times let phrases/thoughts escape from her mind, which are much easier for me to understand today, than back in 2008. IMO, she "slipped" in that last 911 call. And, perhaps she also "slipped" when she posted on her MySpace page the week of July 4th.

What got to me was when Cindy said to Casey in the background while she was on the phone with 911 "what have you done?"...I think that said it all for what Cindy was thinking.....

[Kat4Eagles]

I agree wholeheartedly. Given how much Casey seems to need money, I am quite surprised that she did not reveal the name of the father. Could Cindy have been behind that (wanting Caylee for Cindy, not for anyone else). I know in CA, you HAVE to provide the name of the father if you want any assistance from the state. The state will then go after the father for financial assistance. Would Casey have been willing to forego any financial help or did Cindy convince her that THEY (Cindy and George) would provide all that was needed.?


Hi Goddess:
It certainly makes you wonder the reasoning for at least not naming who the Father is!
Kat

[Sandy001]

I wonder how he can possibly believe championing the Anthonys is going to help him win the next election. :huh:
Oh, I can see it happening. People don't usually pay a lot of attention to the people running for judges. They might look at the names and recognize his and vote for him just because they "have heard of him." They very well may not remember in what context they heard of him.

[AnnieBell]

I bbelieve the statute of limitations only refers to the limit of time with which she can be charged with the check charges. She's already been charged.

I say, just get it over with. She was charged with those charges BEFORE the murder charges, so I don't see what the reason is that she can't be tried on them first. They have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER AT ALL. Just like ZG's defamation of character law suit has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER.

The defense wants them delayed because Baez is not, nor has he ever been doing anything to defend her in that case. He has a right to delay the speedy trial, but the judge doesn't have to accept it.

Anyone want to join me in a campaign - to STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR CASEY AND THE ANTHONY FAMILY?

Make room on this bus for me. Shoot, I'll bring chocolate!!!:biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

Imp, if you're all wet, it's raining here too.
I was floored when she said that she should have been home taking care of herself after Caylee's memorial and instead was helping get the media involved in Haleigh's disappearance.
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME.

jmo

Towel? lol

The MEMEME theme has been present from the very first time she opened her mouth publicly. It was what drew me into the case. I could not believe how this ill-mannered, self-obsessed woman on my TV screen was demonstrating her *concern* for the beautiful grandchild she hadn't seen in over a month. I'm still not over it. :mad:

[Imperfect4]

Interesting take on Cindy.But again I never once heard"Please don't hurt her" from any member of the family.

Very good catch, apothecary. Point taken. :thumbup:

[Barbara fl.]

A hung jury has the same effect as if the trial were never held. She was arrested on murder (no bond) so the situation will still apply if she gets a hung jury. The only way KC will be able to get out of jail is if they drop the murder charge, if she gets a not guilty verdict, or if the state drops the charges. She's not going anywhere, contrary to what I believe Baez has told her.


I totally agree that Casey will never see daylight again....But I believe it will depend on the hung jury (if there is one) as to how the odds fall....If by some slim chance the odds are more then 1-11 and ends up being 5/7 or even 4/8...that can cause the state to reduce the murder one charge to a lesser one to insure a conviction on the second go round.....Of course I do not believe that would happen....but the prosecution has to be prepared just in the event.....I do believe that the state can reduce the charges depending on the way the hung jury comes in....

My personal thoughts are that the jury will be out for about 20 minutes and be unanimous with a guilty verdict.....:biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

I agree wholeheartedly. Given how much Casey seems to need money, I am quite surprised that she did not reveal the name of the father. Could Cindy have been behind that (wanting Caylee for Cindy, not for anyone else). I know in CA, you HAVE to provide the name of the father if you want any assistance from the state. The state will then go after the father for financial assistance. Would Casey have been willing to forego any financial help or did Cindy convince her that THEY (Cindy and George) would provide all that was needed.?

My bolding. Entirely possible, imo. Cindy seems just as capable as Casey of saying whatever she needs to say in the moment to get her way ... without regard to consequences.

[Barbara fl.]

Barbara. I don't think Phil Spectre was up on Murder One charges. OJ was and he remained in jail until his trial was over I believe. It's only capital murder cases that have no bail and cases in which the judge deems there is a threat of the defendent running.

Yes, you are correct...there is no bail on murder one....so I guess we can feel at ease that Casey will remain behind bars.....:thumbsup:

[Lapis]

They don't have to wait for the civil suit as a matter in the Higbee case the officer who was held responsible for the accidental death of those two girls when he ran a stop sign, they held the civil suit before the criminal suit. The jury found him innocent in the criminal case.

In the Higbee case the civil suit with the girls family was settled. The case with the other car was put on the inactive list until after the criminal trial. The case gets filed so the statute of limitations is not violated and then a motion is made to put it on the inactive list. You can still negotiate a settlement when the case is on the inactive list. Most times a plaintiff doesn't care if the criminal case goes first, because if they are found guilty then the liabiltiy portion of the case is proven.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

Towel? lol

The MEMEME theme has been present from the very first time she opened her mouth publicly. It was what drew me into the case. I could not believe how this ill-mannered, self-obsessed woman on my TV screen was demonstrating her *concern* for the beautiful grandchild she hadn't seen in over a month. I'm still not over it. :mad:

Hi :seeya:

Yep me too. I couldn't believe it.

Also there was never a sketch released of ZG. They could have done it through their lawyers wonder why they didn't?

jmo

[AMS]

Caylee Anthony to 'Jon & Kate Plus 8': Children as props

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/caylee-anthony-to-jon-kate-plus-8-children-as-props-.html

imo