Monday, June 22, 2009 #1

[summer]

Help me Obi Wan!

[Imperfect4]

I resemble that! :tonguewag:

... :wub: ...

[desmom]

127 people (59 members & 68 guests) on the boards and no one has anything to say. :lol:

I think we are going to see a lot of BOMBSHELLS out of the A camp between now and the trial...even if it means throwing themselves under the bus.

jmo

[summer]

127 people (59 members & 68 guests) on the boards and no one has anything to say. :lol:

I think we are going to see a lot of BOMBSHELLS out of the A camp between now and the trial...even if it means throwing themselves under the bus.

jmo

Me too, desmom. I think we ain't seen nuthin' yet. :mad:

[summer]

Oh geez, I've only been a member here for a week and I have 260 posts.

Think I'll shut my mouf. :blushing:

[Imperfect4]

127 people (59 members & 68 guests) on the boards and no one has anything to say. :lol:

I think we are going to see a lot of BOMBSHELLS out of the A camp between now and the trial...even if it means throwing themselves under the bus.

jmo

I swear there are only a couple dozen of us who post here regularly. It freaks me out a bit every time I see the # of people lurking. :unsure:

[ttcRider]

Oh geez, I've only been a member here for a week and I have 260 posts.

Think I'll shut my mouf. :blushing:

...and you are still wearing the same dress!! BRAVO!! :laugh :thumbsup:

[Imperfect4]

Oh geez, I've only been a member here for a week and I have 260 posts.

Think I'll shut my mouf. :blushing:

No worries. I'm on my gazillionth nic and look at my post count. :laugh:

[gaelicpeas]

It gets more confusing, because I saw something Friday that said she could be skeletonized in as little as 10 days (due to her size and the FL clilmate).

Then we've also got the Body Farm 2.5 days in the trunk thing.

And now this 30 day decomp'd fatty tissue-on-the-paper-towel thing.

:confused:I said it last night, and it was not a popular opinion, but I will repeat it tonight... I don't think the paper towel evidence means anything. I DO think the other forensic evidence holds a LOT of weight. JMO

[summer]

:laugh: Guess I shouldn't tempt fate.

See you all tomorrow! :seeya:

[Imperfect4]

I said it last night, and it was not a popular opinion, but I will repeat it tonight... I don't think the paper towel evidence means anything. I DO think the other forensic evidence holds a LOT of weight. JMO

I know that's what you said.

And you're entitled to your opinion.

I don't necessarily disagree, I just don't know at this point.

And I can't really wrap my head around "grave wax" on a paper towel in someone's trunk -- the same trunk suspected to have been a temporary morgue -- being meaningless.

Does not compute.

But like everything else in this case, time will tell.

[AnniePie]

Maybe Nancy will do the *best of Cindy* show this Friday. Could be a hot one! hammer

I was away last Friday, so tell me: Did Neency not run that program? :w00t: I hope not, cuz I wanted to see that one!

[msgatorslayer]

127 people (59 members & 68 guests) on the boards and no one has anything to say. :lol:

I think we are going to see a lot of BOMBSHELLS out of the A camp between now and the trial...even if it means throwing themselves under the bus.

jmo

Boo!:biggrin:

I'm coming in late. Haven't watched NG. I'll have to catch the repeat.

Was just reading about this 'grave wax'. That's a new term for me. :chicken:

[sunstar]

I said it last night, and it was not a popular opinion, but I will repeat it tonight... I don't think the paper towel evidence means anything. I DO think the other forensic evidence holds a LOT of weight. JMO

Maybe I'm totally off, but I just thought the paper towel came in contact with the decomp in the trunk. I cannot see Casey cleaning the trunk with it or Caylee's body in the trunk without being inside the bags. That would mean that Casey actually came in contact with her decomposing body when she removed it from the trunk and I just can't see her getting herself "dirty". I do think it is very possible the bag leaked though. MOO

[Imperfect4]

This is what I've been waiting for. I knew this tattoo would come into play.

.....:drool:.....

Yep. Even their Ugly Coping explanation will be difficult to apply to her Beautiful Life tattoo.

[desmom]

I was checking out youtube.com to see if there was anything new.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG_nvwZisHU

She put a lot of time, thought and effort into a timeline from the autopsy report.

ETA ~ The same woman did a duct tape/fingerprint demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYxkc5xSMQ&feature=channel_page

[Imperfect4]

Boo!:biggrin:

I'm coming in late. Haven't watched NG. I'll have to catch the repeat.

Was just reading about this 'grave wax'. That's a new term for me. :chicken:

Do yourself a favor -- don't search Google Images for the term. :scared:

[AnniePie]

The autopsy and the tattoo photo story have her crazed. She is in prime NG form tonight. She has not even showed Twins on Vacation pictures yet. :laugh:

imo

OMH! There must be bombshells flying everywhere tonight, if that be the case!

[onlykaty]

I swear there are only a couple dozen of us who post here regularly. It freaks me out a bit every time I see the # of people lurking. :unsure:


I have been reading a whole lot longer than I have been registered. By the time I get on the board you all have said it so well, so many opinions and a lot of them I agree with..Just hate to post and and be redundant all the time..I have to say if ya want to keep up on this case this definitely is the place to be..looks like a lot of others feel the same..Your all very knowledgeable and your opinions are all well said...With that said I'll get back to reading..lol

[anon-o-miss]

I said it last night, and it was not a popular opinion, but I will repeat it tonight... I don't think the paper towel evidence means anything. I DO think the other forensic evidence holds a LOT of weight. JMO
I think the paper towel evidence is going to come in handy. The air tests used by the Body Farm IIRC is considered "new" science, which leaves it open to challenges. However, paper towels with grave wax on them helps give them a direct link to a dead body in the trunk. At the very least it shows that whoever came in contact with the trunk also was in contact with a dead body. Since the tow truck driver was there when that stuff was removed from the trunk and thrown out it rules out the paper towels being placed there after the car was picked up by the A's. Many of the pieces in this case may not have much weight on their own, but when put together they paint a pretty graphic picture.

[Imperfect4]

I have been reading a whole lot longer than I have been registered. By the time I get on the board you all have said it so well, so many opinions and a lot of them I agree with..Just hate to post and and be redundant all the time..I have to say if ya want to keep up on this case this definitely the place to be..looks like a lot of others feel the same..Your all very knowledgeable and your opinions are all well said...With that said I'll get back to reading..lol

Well, thank you for the nice compliment. :smile:

[AnnieBell]

wdbo.com/localnews/2009/01/anthony-lawyer-cops-saved-geor.html

After hearing the scoop about poor little george, I jumped off the path and went digging. This article sums it up pretty good. Unbelievable, this man has sold his soul for this lying, coniving diabolical, psychopathic, criminal family.:cursing:

[AnniePie]

Apparently George said he lied about taking all those pills in his suicide attempt... Soooo does that mean he did take them or he didnt take them?? :confused:

ttc! Did you start your new job today?!

Who said that Georgie-Porgie-Puddin'-Pie said this? That GPPP... such a liah!

[AnniePie]

No worries. I'm on my gazillionth nic and look at my post count. :laugh:

LOL That's a fact. I would have too if I still had my old nic. I miss that dress!

[Lavinia]

127 people (59 members & 68 guests) on the boards and no one has anything to say. :lol:

I think we are going to see a lot of BOMBSHELLS out of the A camp between now and the trial...even if it means throwing themselves under the bus.

jmo

I'm here! :seeya: (I'm watching Jon and Kate + 8.) My laptop is always on here whether I am or not. Never turned off.

[apothecary]

I think the paper towel evidence is going to come in handy. The air tests used by the Body Farm IIRC is considered "new" science, which leaves it open to challenges. However, paper towels with grave wax on them helps give them a direct link to a dead body in the trunk. At the very least it shows that whoever came in contact with the trunk also was in contact with a dead body. Since the tow truck driver was there when that stuff was removed from the trunk and thrown out it rules out the paper towels being placed there after the car was picked up by the A's. Many of the pieces in this case may not have much weight on their own, but when put together they paint a pretty graphic picture.
I agree.Those were very good observations.

[onlykaty]

Well, thank you for the nice compliment. :smile:

Your very welcome,..:smile:

[AnniePie]

I have been reading a whole lot longer than I have been registered. By the time I get on the board you all have said it so well, so many opinions and a lot of them I agree with..Just hate to post and and be redundant all the time..I have to say if ya want to keep up on this case this definitely is the place to be..looks like a lot of others feel the same..Your all very knowledgeable and your opinions are all well said...With that said I'll get back to reading..lol

You are welcome here, Katy! :smile: Come out of lurkdom more often!

[sammy62]

I was checking out youtube.com to see if there was anything new.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG_nvwZisHU

She put a lot of time, thought and effort into a timeline from the autopsy report.

ETA ~ The same woman did a duct tape/fingerprint demo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaYxkc5xSMQ&feature=channel_page

If anyone is bored....she has tons of very good videos on the case.

des....do you have any transcripts for the phone calls between Lee and Casey. I only have audio's.

tia

[sunstar]

I have been reading a whole lot longer than I have been registered. By the time I get on the board you all have said it so well, so many opinions and a lot of them I agree with..Just hate to post and and be redundant all the time..I have to say if ya want to keep up on this case this definitely is the place to be..looks like a lot of others feel the same..Your all very knowledgeable and your opinions are all well said...With that said I'll get back to reading..lol

Thanks so much and welcome! :smile:

[anon-o-miss]

I agree.Those were very good observations.

Thanks apothecary :seeya:

[Mamie]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

[onlykaty]

You are welcome here, Katy! :smile: Come out of lurkdom more often!

Thanks AnniePie for the welcome. I will be posting some, this case could take some time to get through and I'm going to be here no how long the defense drags it out. I'm not leaving for nothing until there is justice for Kaylee!!

As interesting as most of you are here I'll probably just hang out here for good..lol

[sunstar]

In our case the tape has been stored for years in a cold workshop that has no heat.

(hubbys a packrat)

That might make it last longer, imo.

[desmom]

If anyone is bored....she has tons of very good videos on the case.

des....do you have any transcripts for the phone calls between Lee and Casey. I only have audio's.

tia

No date on this one: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Anthony.Casey.and.Lee.Recorded-2008.Call.pdf

http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/casey-anthony-calls-from-jail-transcripts/

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5711169/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthony-jail-house-call-july-2008

I know there were one or two more, but my links don't work anymore. :sad:

[gaelicpeas]

I know that's what you said.

And you're entitled to your opinion.

I don't necessarily disagree, I just don't know at this point.

And I can't really wrap my head around "grave wax" on a paper towel in someone's trunk -- the same trunk suspected to have been a temporary morgue -- being meaningless.

Does not compute.

But like everything else in this case, time will tell.I just don't think there was enough time for adipocere to form. Plus, this was trash from TonE's apartment. I just think that something in that trash had chemical compounds similar to adipocere. Again, JMO.

[gogo]

everytime Marc Klass makes that statement I cringe. He simply does not get it. He is very naive. I agree with your assumption. I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

[neid_77]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

I agree with you wholeheartedly they know what the Heck they are doing they are not grieving grandparents especially Cindy that woman makes me so sick, how she could take care of Caylee the way she did and then turn her back compeletly on her IMO has to be the biggest and most evil thing someone can do...Caylee depended on her more than her own mother and that's how Cindy treats the respect and honor of her 2 yr old grandbaby!!! THESE people will go down in history as the worst grandparents that have ever lived they are just so disgusting!!!!!!!!:cursing:

forever and always Caylee Marie:wub::wub:

[gogo]

sorry if this has been asked before, I find it difficult to research it.
did George tell the detectives what Caylee was wearing on the last time he saw her on June 16 th.? Was it the same outfit that was found in her grave? Thanks again. If so then one can assume that was the day she died.

[Lavinia]

Hey Imp, thanks for telling us NOT to google grave wax images. You KNOW what that made me do, huh? barf

[destiny1]

I'm fine! A bit soggy, but fine! Butterflies are closed but the live frog exhibit is open!

Upthread a poster (Explorer?) said s/he was going to boycott TODAY show sponsors and I don't get why.

If enough people were interested in justice for Caylee and enough people openly boycotted Today's sponsors, maybe Today, and other networks would stop giving the Anthonys and that awful lawyer that represents them and interferes with the prosecution of Caylee's killer, a platform from which to deliver their lies, false accusations, and solitation of funds in the name of a child that they have all but forgotten except for the opportunity that her murder has given them for a free ride through life on the back of her memory.

[Imperfect4]

I'm here! :seeya: (I'm watching Jon and Kate + 8.) My laptop is always on here whether I am or not. Never turned off.

Me, too! .....

[AnnieBell]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

Here, Here. I was thinking the same thing. Why can't people see this family isn't in denial, they're doing what they have always done. Lie,Lie,Lie and if that isn't working lie some more.

[ttcRider]

Hey Imp, thanks for telling us NOT to google grave wax images. You KNOW what that made me do, huh? barf

How does that saying go again... curiousity got the cat?? :scared:

[Imperfect4]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

I think Marc is trying to be kind with the D word.

[ttcRider]

That, IMO, is the stupidest thing I believe that I've ever heard.

Were in the world did that term originate from?

TIA

I think it was Ricky Martin! :laugh:

[sunstar]

sorry if this has been asked before, I find it difficult to research it.
did George tell the detectives what Caylee was wearing on the last time he saw her on June 16 th.? Was it the same outfit that was found in her grave? Thanks again. If so then one can assume that was the day she died.


George said she had on a pink shirt, blue jeans skirt, white shoes, sunglasses, hair in a ponytail and had her backpack. Her remains were found with a shirt that had lettering which had come off, white pinstripe shorts (like she was wearing on Fathers' Day). No skirt, shoes or sunglasses were with her remains, and no backpack. MOO

[Imperfect4]

sorry if this has been asked before, I find it difficult to research it.
did George tell the detectives what Caylee was wearing on the last time he saw her on June 16 th.? Was it the same outfit that was found in her grave? Thanks again. If so then one can assume that was the day she died.


Yes he did, and no, it wasn't.

[Lavinia]

How does that saying go again... curiousity got the cat?? :scared:

Forbidden fruit + a stubborn streak = I googled like a maniac! :laugh:

[kanzz]

I just don't think there was enough time for adipocere to form. Plus, this was trash from TonE's apartment. I just think that something in that trash had chemical compounds similar to adipocere. Again, JMO.

The timeline is bugging me, too. But I don't think there's anything that would be mistaken for adipocere. It's human or swine, and it's the result of decomp.

[Mamie]

I think Marc is trying to be kind with the D word.

But that's what I can't figure out. Why is he doing that? Trust me, I've heard him call it what really is in other cases, so I know he's got it in him to do! JMO

[ttcRider]

Forbidden fruit + a stubborn streak = I googled like a maniac! :laugh:

My google history gets curiouser and curiouser.. (I was so much surprised, that for the moment I quite forgot how to speak good English). ...
:wink:

[Imperfect4]

That, IMO, is the stupidest thing I believe that I've ever heard.

Were in the world did that term originate from?

TIA

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)

[Mamie]

George said she had on a pink shirt, blue jeans skirt, white shoes, sunglasses, hair in a ponytail and had her backpack. Her remains were found with a shirt that had lettering which had come off, white pinstripe shorts (like she was wearing on Fathers' Day). No skirt, shoes or sunglasses were with her remains, and no backpack. MOO


But the shirt was pink with pink letters, right, that was found? So ol' George wasn't telling the truth even back then?

[Lavinia]

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)

Yeah, it came from that and explains "inappropriate grieving". Whatevah.

[Lavinia]

My google history gets curiouser and curiouser.. (I was so much surprised, that for the moment I quite forgot how to speak good English). ...
:wink:

Okay, so WHATEVER you do, DON'T google "grave wax" with Google images. :sneaky:

[Imperfect4]

Hey Imp, thanks for telling us NOT to google grave wax images. You KNOW what that made me do, huh? barf

Told ya! :scared:

[ttcRider]

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)

OMG I thought you guys were talking about Caseys tat! Ignore my stupid Ricky Martin remark. :blushing:

[Imperfect4]

But that's what I can't figure out. Why is he doing that? Trust me, I've heard him call it what really is in other cases, so I know he's got it in him to do! JMO

I think for the same reason most people in the media tread very lightly when they discuss the Ants.

They don't want to be seen as insensitive.

[kingfish]

If enough people were interested in justice for Caylee and enough people openly boycotted Today's sponsors, maybe Today, and other networks would stop giving the Anthonys and that awful lawyer that represents them and interferes with the prosecution of Caylee's killer, a platform from which to deliver their lies, false accusations, and solitation of funds in the name of a child that they have all but forgotten except for the opportunity that her murder has given them for a free ride through life on the back of her memory.

please sign and pass this along....

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/851674974

thanks

[kanzz]

Okay, so WHATEVER you do, DON'T google "grave wax" with Google images. :sneaky:

Am I the only person here who finds the images fascinating? OK, nvm, probably so. Must be the old ER nurse in me. LOL

and on that happy note, i'm thinking about calling it a day.


time to google flowers or clouds or rainbows or something... so you won't be dreaming about those images tonight.

[Lavinia]

OMG I thought you guys were talking about Caseys tat! Ignore my stupid Ricky Martin remark. :blushing:

If you'll ignore my stupid remarks. :tongueside:

[sammy62]

No date on this one: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Anthony.Casey.and.Lee.Recorded-2008.Call.pdf

http://patrishka.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/casey-anthony-calls-from-jail-transcripts/

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5711169/Casey-Anthony-Cindy-Anthony-jail-house-call-july-2008

I know there were one or two more, but my links don't work anymore. :sad:

ty so much....You have my undying gratitude for all you do. I've been struggling all night trying to find a few links. I suppose in hindsight, we should save those pdf files instead of links. Anyway...thanks again. :wub:

[Imperfect4]

OMG I thought you guys were talking about Caseys tat! Ignore my stupid Ricky Martin remark. :blushing:

ROFL! And here I was trying to work the words "ugly coping" into one of his old tunes. :laugh:

[sunstar]

But the shirt was pink with pink letters, right, that was found? So ol' George wasn't telling the truth even back then?

The shirt that was found with her remains could be the one he described but the rest of that outfit he said he saw on 6/16 wasn't recovered at the site. :smile: MOO

[imc_e]

.......For you.....

.......:rose:......

Thank you for your compassion, and to others on the forum who have helped me through it.

[kanzz]

As I was getting ready for bed, a scenario just played out in my mind. Thought I'd toss it out here, and I apologize if this theory isn't new... but it's new to me..

June 15, Casey and Cindy fight to the point of Cindy choking Casey.

In a huff, Casey grabs Caylee and leaves. She's still so mad she's fuming.

Caylee is crying for her nana. Casey tells her to shutup. Caylee begins to cry.

Casey turns around in the car, shows that baby the same thing we saw in the jailhouse vid with the clenched teeth, fists, and growl.. then she smacks Caylee so hard she either passes out or starts to scream.

At this point, Casey knows she is busted. She gets the duct tape out of the trunk or from under the seat, and deliberately suffocates her child.

George knows there was duct tape in the car. He may have even advised his family to always carry it in the vehicle.


the end... for now... just rambling.

[Imperfect4]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, witchy. I can't even imagine. :sad:

[sunstar]

Am I the only person here who finds the images fascinating? OK, nvm, probably so. Must be the old ER nurse in me. LOL

and on that happy note, i'm thinking about calling it a day.


time to google flowers or clouds or rainbows or something... so you won't be dreaming about those images tonight.

It does give more of an understanding to the autopsy report. MOO

[kanzz]

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)

Nope, don't think that one's from the Sommer case. I thought it came from a song?

ETA: wait, you're talking about the tat, right? La Bella Vida didn't come from Sommer.
if you're talking about "ugly coping", then yes, i think that is familiar because of the Sommer case.

[Rapunzel]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO


I'm not sure if he really believes that or is just saying that to soften the blow for TV that he really believes they are all nut jobs.

[Chardonnay]

I'm gonna say g'nitey...:seeya: And I want to thank Desmon, Katprint and Lapis for all their good work. AND to the rest of YOU wonderful posters !!! I lurk more than I post, becuz what I think or want to say, someone has already asked or said it. Plus, I'm not good at public speaking. :unsure:

[sunstar]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

:rose: for you, witchy

[sunstar]

Nope, don't think that one's from the Sommer case. I thought it came from a song?

IIRC, when the defense brought up this term, the Sommer case was referenced in discussion of it due to her behavior after her husband's death. :smile: MOO

[apothecary]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

Wow,I bet that was tough for you at that young age.

[Imperfect4]

Nope, don't think that one's from the Sommer case. I thought it came from a song?

Don't know about a song. I think a couple people upthread agreed it came out during the Sommer case. :huh:

[Imperfect4]

I'm gonna say g'nitey...:seeya: And I want to thank Desmon, Katprint and Lapis for all their good work. AND to the rest of YOU wonderful posters !!! I lurk more than I post, becuz what I think or want to say, someone has already asked or said it. Plus, I'm not good at public speaking. :unsure:

Good-night, my favorite wine! :seeya:

[Rapunzel]

George said she had on a pink shirt, blue jeans skirt, white shoes, sunglasses, hair in a ponytail and had her backpack. Her remains were found with a shirt that had lettering which had come off, white pinstripe shorts (like she was wearing on Fathers' Day). No skirt, shoes or sunglasses were with her remains, and no backpack. MOO

Don't forget no shoes or socks

[sunstar]

I just heard Mark Williams again on Nancy's show talking about George's attempted suicide. MW: "He recently told a nurse at Halifax Medical Center that he didn't do it or if he did it was for attention." :scared:

[sammy62]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

HOw tragic for you witchy. :rose:

[kanzz]

IIRC, when the defense brought up this term, the Sommer case was referenced in discussion of it due to her behavior after her husband's death. :smile: MOO

I edited my post above to clarify - I thought the question was about the tattoo "Bella Vida". If you were referencing "ugly coping', yes it got popular during Sommer.

Obviously, by my sig, I have followed Sommer closely. :-)

[sunstar]

Don't forget no shoes or socks

It makes me think by what was found with her remains that she was at home when she was killed ~ shorts, laundry bag, Pooh blanket ~ and like you said, no shoes or socks. MOO

[sunstar]

I edited my post above to clarify - I thought the question was about the tattoo "Bella Vida". If you were referencing "ugly coping', yes it got popular during Sommer.

Obviously, by my sig, I have followed Sommer closely. :-)

I'm sorry I misunderstood. Yes I can tell you have followed that case very closely. :smile:

[sunstar]

IMO it wasn't attempted it was "almost".

I agree. I don't think it ever came close to attempted. MOO

[Rapunzel]

OMG talk about google searches,I have googled some of the strangest things researching this case if anything happens to hubby or I and the police become involved whichever one of us is left standing is toast.

[imc_e]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.


I could understand ugly coping in that situation.

:rose:

What a loss, at so young an age..

[sammy62]

As I was getting ready for bed, a scenario just played out in my mind. Thought I'd toss it out here, and I apologize if this theory isn't new... but it's new to me..

June 15, Casey and Cindy fight to the point of Cindy choking Casey.

In a huff, Casey grabs Caylee and leaves. She's still so mad she's fuming.

Caylee is crying for her nana. Casey tells her to shutup. Caylee begins to cry.

Casey turns around in the car, shows that baby the same thing we saw in the jailhouse vid with the clenched teeth, fists, and growl.. then she smacks Caylee so hard she either passes out or starts to scream.

At this point, Casey knows she is busted. She gets the duct tape out of the trunk or from under the seat, and deliberately suffocates her child.

George knows there was duct tape in the car. He may have even advised his family to always carry it in the vehicle.


the end... for now... just rambling.

that's the exact same scenario I believe. Threw her in the trunk for several days...until it began to smell. Went home and got garbage bags and the laundry bag...and of course the heart sticker.

[sammy62]

OMG talk about google searches,I have googled some of the strangest things researching this case if anything happens to hubby or I and the police become involved whichever one of us is left standing is toast.

I decided Rap that we will be ok. Our history will show us on this site for 15 hours a day. They'll know we were obsessed :tongueside:

[Lavinia]

I agree. I don't think it ever came close to attempted. MOO

It seems at *most* that he got tanked and then got all maudlin and cryin' in his beer kind of BS.

[Lavinia]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

Wow, witchy. I'm sorry. I can't imagine how ugly my coping would have been in the same circumstance. :rose:

[sunstar]

It seems at *most* that he got tanked and then got all maudlin and cryin' in his beer kind of BS.

That was the impression I got too. :wink:

[Unleashed]

Hey Imp, thanks for telling us NOT to google grave wax images. You KNOW what that made me do, huh? barf

Me too. :blushing:
It's just like seeing a sign that says "Wet Paint".

[Lavinia]

That was the impression I got too. :wink:

I did that to my complete and utter horror and embarrassment one night, (not suicidal but literally crying in my beer, lol :blushing:) and that's what I flashed to when I heard the Geo. story. Soooo pathetic, lol.

[Lavinia]

Me too. :blushing:
It's just like seeing a sign that says "Wet Paint".

Wet concrete is even better. :sneaky:

[AnnieBell]

that's the exact same scenario I believe. Threw her in the trunk for several days...until it began to smell. Went home and got garbage bags and the laundry bag...and of course the heart sticker.

I don't disagree with your theory but there are still missing pieces to the puzzle. I agree Casey grabbed that child after the huge fight with Cindy but I think there is a time window of that night and the next afternoon when George left for work---something happened---add in the multiple pings from Casey's phone during that 24 hour window---leaves IMO a suspicion of Lee's involvement. Lee and Casey had a very strange and kind of creepy sibiling relationship. I'm not convinced that Casey didn't hide Caylee in the back yard for a brief period of time which explains the cadaver dog's hitting 2 spots in the back yard, the fresh turned dirt from the now famous bamboo plant. Then take in to account the continued pings from Casey in that short window frame---Casey came back to dig Caylee up, was able to take the time to triple bag the child including the cloth laundry bag, put her in the trunk which is where she stayed for a brief period of time while Casey figured out a way to permanently dispose of Caylee's body. Not to worry though between all of us we will put this puzzle together despite the anthony's thinking they're smarter than all of the rest of us.

[sunstar]

Thank you, but I do understand Ugly Coping.

If some one were to ask me the definition, I would 'suicidal', depressed'.

And I'm sure there are many more.

I was comparing my coping with these two cases.

AJMOP
And I understand just what you're talking about and in no way would I think what you experienced be anything like Casey's behavior when Caylee was "abducted/missing". Only the person who was the unremorseful killer would act the way she did ~ MOO.

[sammy62]

I don't disagree with your theory but there are still missing pieces to the puzzle. I agree Casey grabbed that child after the huge fight with Cindy but I think there is a time window of that night and the next afternoon when George left for work---something happened---add in the multiple pings from Casey's phone during that 24 hour window---leaves IMO a suspicion of Lee's involvement. Lee and Casey had a very strange and kind of creepy sibiling relationship. I'm not convinced that Casey didn't hide Caylee in the back yard for a brief period of time which explains the cadaver dog's hitting 2 spots in the back yard, the fresh turned dirt from the now famous bamboo plant. Then take in to account the continued pings from Casey in that short window frame---Casey came back to dig Caylee up, was able to take the time to triple bag the child including the cloth laundry bag, put her in the trunk which is where she stayed for a brief period of time while Casey figured out a way to permanently dispose of Caylee's body. Not to worry though between all of us we will put this puzzle together despite the anthony's thinking they're smarter than all of the rest of us.

I agree with your backyard theory. But I don't think George ever saw them On Monday. Can anyone here tell me what their hubby/wife wore today? And that's not a month later. There's a cell phone call from the anthony house to Casey, early that morning. I'm working on Lee's involvement right now. Did Lee see Cindy choke Casey...or did Casey just tell him?

[Mamie]

I think for the same reason most people in the media tread very lightly when they discuss the Ants.

They don't want to be seen as insensitive.

Ahhh, now I got it. (Sometimes I have to have a house fall on me):rolleyes:

[sammy62]

I think for the same reason most people in the media tread very lightly when they discuss the Ants.

They don't want to be seen as insensitive.

good thing no one on this board has that problem.

[sunstar]

Have a good night everybody and thanks for the discussion! :seeya:

[Mamie]

I didn't sleep well last night and I said this morning I was going to bed right after work today-----and here I sit!

So goodnight all!:seeya:

[*Serenity*]

I read here almost daily (( try )) and I haven't seen Pru lately.
I miss her.....

[Imperfect4]

good thing no one on this board has that problem.

Ain't it though? :laugh:

[Imperfect4]

I read here almost daily (( try )) and I haven't seen Pru lately.
I miss her.....

Haven't seen her today, but she's been around recently.

[farrahrani]

I don't disagree with your theory but there are still missing pieces to the puzzle. I agree Casey grabbed that child after the huge fight with Cindy but I think there is a time window of that night and the next afternoon when George left for work---something happened---add in the multiple pings from Casey's phone during that 24 hour window---leaves IMO a suspicion of Lee's involvement. Lee and Casey had a very strange and kind of creepy sibiling relationship. I'm not convinced that Casey didn't hide Caylee in the back yard for a brief period of time which explains the cadaver dog's hitting 2 spots in the back yard, the fresh turned dirt from the now famous bamboo plant. Then take in to account the continued pings from Casey in that short window frame---Casey came back to dig Caylee up, was able to take the time to triple bag the child including the cloth laundry bag, put her in the trunk which is where she stayed for a brief period of time while Casey figured out a way to permanently dispose of Caylee's body. Not to worry though between all of us we will put this puzzle together despite the anthony's thinking they're smarter than all of the rest of us.


You had I have a similar train of thought. I also believe that she buried Caylee for a brief time in the yard, though I didn't before. My mind was changed because of the grave wax.

It says it forms 'within a month', not Taking a month to form. And it says the body needs to be in a cool place. If she buried Caylee there, it would explain the gravewax, AND the dogs hitting on the yard. I believe she stuffed Caylee in the laundry hamper before burying her.

At some point someone became suspicious, for whatever reason, and she needed to move the body. So she digs up the baby, and throws her in the trunk, but her hands become soiled with decomp fluids leaking out of the bag, and probably grave wax. Maybe the grave wax seeped out of the bag, and with the movements of being hefted around and all, it got on her...maybe her hands, maybe her legs, who knows? She wipes it off with paper towels after dropping hamper in trunk, grabs some garbage bags, bags up the hamper and drives off, not even noticing the stain in her trunk...or maybe she does and figures she'll clean it later...OR the paper towels were caused by her trying to clean the stain out of the trunk and she was too lazy to throw them in the trash...whatever reason they are in there now.

She rides around for maybe...three or four days with the baby in her trunk, but this is FL, and it is summer. So in a very short time it starts to stink, and she ditches the body in the woods and disappears to live her "Bella Vida"


And I still am torn about where she killed the baby. It is being strongly suggested she died in the trunk because of the chemicals released with suffocation found in the trunk. She might have driven around in the car while Caylee died, then came back home the next day to get rid of her with everyone out. Someone else said that would explain why she kept calling, 'the flurry of calls', not because she was asking for help, but because she wanted to insure nobody was home while she got rid of the baby. After all, what safer place to hide the crime than her parent's house, private property? At least that is probably what was going through her feeble mind. :cursing:

[Imperfect4]

I didn't sleep well last night and I said this morning I was going to bed right after work today-----and here I sit!

So goodnight all!:seeya:

Goodnight sunstar and Mamie. :seeya:

[*Serenity*]

I don't disagree with your theory but there are still missing pieces to the puzzle. I agree Casey grabbed that child after the huge fight with Cindy but I think there is a time window of that night and the next afternoon when George left for work---something happened---add in the multiple pings from Casey's phone during that 24 hour window---leaves IMO a suspicion of Lee's involvement. Lee and Casey had a very strange and kind of creepy sibiling relationship. I'm not convinced that Casey didn't hide Caylee in the back yard for a brief period of time which explains the cadaver dog's hitting 2 spots in the back yard, the fresh turned dirt from the now famous bamboo plant. Then take in to account the continued pings from Casey in that short window frame---Casey came back to dig Caylee up, was able to take the time to triple bag the child including the cloth laundry bag, put her in the trunk which is where she stayed for a brief period of time while Casey figured out a way to permanently dispose of Caylee's body. Not to worry though between all of us we will put this puzzle together despite the anthony's thinking they're smarter than all of the rest of us.


I always think about G/C checking their backyard looking for Caylee.
Also- I am curious if LE found those missing pavers at the crime scene.

I read most of the autopsy report but do not recall any information about the heart sticker, was it there and I missed it?

[Lavinia]

And I look back over the years and am surprised that I survived.

Casey knows what happened to Caylee and I just do not understand why she doesn't just give it up.

Boogles my mind.

Isn't it something what you can survive and don't even know how hard it was until you get through it? I'm glad you got through it well.

Good night my friends :wub:! We will right the world again tomorrow!

[*Serenity*]

Haven't seen her today, but she's been around recently.

Thank You..
I know she is waiting on the maggot evidence and hopefully that information will be released soon.

[seeing_eye]

I disagree with Marc Klaas----which has to be a first for me. I do not believe at all that the A's are in any kind of denial. I think they are exactly where they want to be------trying to convince society that their daughter is not capable of this and that she was the best mother ever. And if they have to lie their arses off to do that, sobeit. JMO

ITA with what you said. I usually agree with Mark Klaas, but I can't in this instance. The A's actions do not show denial but rather they show cover up and driving the bus over others. And they went into that mode as soon as they knew that Caylee was dead - and that occurred on day 31!

[sammy62]

I always think about G/C checking their backyard looking for Caylee.
Also- I am curious if LE found those missing pavers at the crime scene.

I read most of the autopsy report but do not recall any information about the heart sticker, was it there and I missed it?

The heart sticker info came out earlier. The sticker wasn't attached to the tape anymore, but there was heart shaped tape residue on the duct tape, and they found a heart sticker in the rubble. IIRC

[sammy62]

NIght all...I"m off too. Good discussion tonight. :wub:

[*Serenity*]

The heart sticker info came out earlier. The sticker wasn't attached to the tape anymore, but there was heart shaped tape residue on the duct tape, and they found a heart sticker in the rubble. IIRC

Was the heart shape residue mentioned in the autopsy report?
Maybe no reason to mention it and LE will have it for additional
evidence.

IIRC the letters off of Caylee's shirt were Big Trouble-- and I could swear I remember seeing her in a photo wearing that shirt.

[Imperfect4]

Was the heart shape residue mentioned in the autopsy report?
Maybe no reason to mention it and LE will have it for additional
evidence.

IIRC the letters off of Caylee's shirt were Big Trouble-- and I could swear I remember seeing her in a photo wearing that shirt.

No mention of the heart sticker or residue in the autopsy report. But there was no analysis of the duct tape at all, so we're hoping to see all that at some point.

[imc_e]

Finally figured out who does Cindy Anthonys hair,

http://www.flowbee.com/

jmo

[*Serenity*]

No mention of the heart sticker or residue in the autopsy report. But there was no analysis of the duct tape at all, so we're hoping to see all that at some point.

Thank you.
I think I got online just when everyone got offline. lol

[Imperfect4]

Thank you.
I think I got online just when everyone got offline. lol

It gets pretty quiet this time of evening.

I'm off, too.

Good-night, whoever's lurking. :seeya:

imc_e: :lol: on the flowbee

[imc_e]

It gets pretty quiet this time of evening.

I'm off, too.

Good-night, whoever's lurking. :seeya:

imc_e: :lol: on the flowbee


G' nite!! :thumbup:

[crazydazy]

I think I recognize the outfit she is wearing in this pic.. it looks like the one from the "party" she was at with amy and the other girls. the short one with the playing cards? I know weve seen it many times but for the life of me cannot find it. Help? If one know the one I am talking about ; what do you think? It sure looks like it to me

[AnniePie]

Hey Imp, thanks for telling us NOT to google grave wax images. You KNOW what that made me do, huh? barf

Me too. For three seconds. Ewwww...

[crazydazy]

I think I recognize the outfit she is wearing in this pic.. it looks like the one from the "party" she was at with amy and the other girls. the short one with the playing cards? I know weve seen it many times but for the life of me cannot find it. Help? If one know the one I am talking about ; what do you think? It sure looks like it to me

sorry to quote myself but I found the pic I was looking for. It is the same color but a little different..but I swear I have seen her in this outfit in pics before.

[AnniePie]

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)

Oh. I thought Baez had made it up.

Chalk one up for him... he's not as stupid as I thought. :w00t:

[Shades]

Finally figured out who does Cindy Anthonys hair,

http://www.flowbee.com/

jmo


That was absolutely brilliant!!!!!
I think U're on to something.....:w00t:

[imc_e]

That was absolutely brilliant!!!!!
I think U're on to something.....:w00t:



Hello Vanderhoof!! :thumbup:

[AnniePie]

Okay, now I remember. Thanks so much.
When I was 19 my husband of 3 months got killed in a car wreck.

I did some ugly coping of my own. But it had noting to do with the Cindy Sommers' case nor IMO does it apply to Casey.

Aww... I'm so sorry witchy. Such as sad thing to happen to such a young woman.

I think "ugly coping" is a basic description of the Anthony family lifestyle. Before and after the terminal event. :thumbdown:

[AnniePie]

I think he said that George told a nurse that he hadn't taken anything and he did it for attention.

I say: If George had taken medication he would have been taken to the hospital in an ambulance with EMT attention rather than in the police chief's car, chatting along the way. It was a hoax. I think that he and Cindy had a fight and Cindy threw him out. He took his blankie and pillow (I never heard of a person intent on suicide taking his blankie.) He checked into that motel in Daytona and ordered a pizza and wrote a couple of notes, one of which reportedly was something about how he wanted to kill some of Casey's friends. When he didn't come home, Cindy panicked and had Ironside call LE to report him missing. They found him at the motel rather quickly.

OKAY! Some truth finally comes out. And this just confirms exactly what a LOT of us believed in the first place.

I truly believe that the truth will win out in the end, and we'll get a lot of answers to a lot of things we've wanted to know.

[Shades]

Hello Vanderhoof!! :thumbup:



Hello from Vanderhooooooooof.......
Where are U imc_e????

[runnnempty]

I think I recognize the outfit she is wearing in this pic.. it looks like the one from the "party" she was at with amy and the other girls. the short one with the playing cards? I know weve seen it many times but for the life of me cannot find it. Help? If one know the one I am talking about ; what do you think? It sure looks like it to me


Is this the one you're looking for, Crazy?

http://marinadedave.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/casey-card.jpg

[imc_e]

Message for Cindy,

I hear this company is hiring,

Imagine.... Life On your Terms

http://order.tupperware.com/coe/app/tup_opportunity.opportunity

Cause at some point piddley donations arent going to be enough!

jmo

[imc_e]

Hello from Vanderhooooooooof.......
Where are U imc_e????






I'm about an hour east of Vancouver BC! :smile:

:thumbup:

p.s. Casey isn't very popular down here

[imc_e]

I know George doesn't use his, but he could write a cookbook like this
and have a real job.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/260669

[Shades]

I'm about an hour east of Vancouver BC! :smile:
:thumbup:
p.s. Casey isn't very popular down here

I used to live in Vancouver Ladner...
I think I know where ya are....
and Casey isn't very popular in the Hoof either.
:cursing:

[imc_e]

I used to live in Vancouver Ladner...
I think I know where ya are....
and Casey isn't very popular in the Hoof either.
:cursing:



Oh! Hey I just moved back here from Tsawwassen, neighbor!!
(small town next to Ladner for lurkers info)

:laugh:

[AnniePie]

I know George doesn't use his, but he could write a cookbook like this
and have a real job.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/260669

OMHeavens CE! You're on a roll tonight!!

[imc_e]

OMHeavens CE! You're on a roll tonight!!



:tongue:

Well, George could technically get them back and we could all meet up here to celebrate.

http://thefreshscent.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/testiclefestival.jpg

[happygert]

just watching NG what is this about someone wanting a speedy trial in the check fraud charges.. She hasn't said anymore about it..

[seeing_eye]

good thing no one on this board has that problem.

Yeah, we're free to be as insensitive as we want to be!

[Shades]

Oh! Hey I just moved back here from Tsawwassen, neighbor!!
(small town next to Ladner for lurkers info)
:laugh:


I love it up here....no crime, real small town and all.
I did love Ladner. My place was right on the Fraser River,
overlooking all the fish boats in the harbour!!
Small world

[imc_e]

I love it up here....no crime, real small town and all.
I did love Ladner. My place was right on the Fraser River,
overlooking all the fish boats in the harbour!!
Small world




Someone could send this gift to Cindy.

http://blogs.salon.com/0002296/images3/truck%20testicles%20crop%20tight%20crop.JPG

Strange world, the Fraser River is just beyond my front porch, just over the dijk!

:laugh:

ETA Oops here some for the milsteads, maybe they will flash.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/10/lightednuts.jpg

[AnniePie]

I love it up here....no crime, real small town and all.
I did love Ladner. My place was right on the Fraser River,
overlooking all the fish boats in the harbour!!
Small world




That's how I felt about Prince George when I lived there a hundred years ago. :smile:

[Dick Tracy]

I think I recognize the outfit she is wearing in this pic.. it looks like the one from the "party" she was at with amy and the other girls. the short one with the playing cards? I know weve seen it many times but for the life of me cannot find it. Help? If one know the one I am talking about ; what do you think? It sure looks like it to me

I was on another site tonight - and the guy actually matched up the freckles on the skin... I'll bet $20 its her.. I'll bet that is one of the photographs that caused George to get very sick and nauseous when he was LE.

[farrahrani]

I'm not positive, but I think it was a term used to describe Cynthia Sommer's behavior after her husband's death. (I know very little about that story, just picked up the reference to ugly coping here on the board.)



Then whomever on Casey's team who began to coin that phrase to you describe her behavior is some kind of moron. Remember, her daughter had been kidnapped when she did those things...can ugly coping be used to deal with kidnapping? I thought it was just for a bad form of grieving...why would Casey be grieving while her daughter was kidnapped? Oh, thats right, she was grieving and searching for Caylee in the tattoo parlors and clubs at the same time...:thumbdown:

Also...as far as the heartshaped sticker, I don't believe it was found. The blanket, hamper and other items were listed. Can you just pick and choose what you put in the report?

[Dick Tracy]

IMC_E - I didn't know you were from BC. I'm up in Seattle.

[imc_e]

IMC_E - I didn't know you were from BC. I'm up in Seattle.

:laugh: Yep pretty close, the washington state border is about 20 minutes from here.

You live in a beautiful city. :thumbup:

[imc_e]

I was on another site tonight - and the guy actually matched up the freckles on the skin... I'll bet $20 its her.. I'll bet that is one of the photographs that caused George to get very sick and nauseous when he was LE.

I read that there were 1200 more pics like that one. :ohmy:

[seeing_eye]

sorry to quote myself but I found the pic I was looking for. It is the same color but a little different..but I swear I have seen her in this outfit in pics before.

That's not Casey in that pic. JMO

[imc_e]

Then whomever on Casey's team who began to coin that phrase to you describe her behavior is some kind of moron. Remember, her daughter had been kidnapped when she did those things...can ugly coping be used to deal with kidnapping? I thought it was just for a bad form of grieving...why would Casey be grieving while her daughter was kidnapped? Oh, thats right, she was grieving and searching for Caylee in the tattoo parlors and clubs at the same time...:thumbdown:

Also...as far as the heartshaped sticker, I don't believe it was found. The blanket, hamper and other items were listed. Can you just pick and choose what you put in the report?

I think they can pick and choose how they release it, farrahrani.
Specialized Reports on Sticker and residue..

Oh and on LKL recently Cindy said Casey was grieving in her own way for those 31 days, and hey! I thought she said she was kidnapped, why was she 'grieving' then.

Uh huh :huh:

[imc_e]

This IS a picture of Casey grieving after Caylee is allegedly kidnapped.

http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/casey-anthony-dancing3.jpg

and more grief..

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/Enchantingblueeyez/bulliten4.jpg

[AnniePie]

This IS a picture of Casey grieving after Caylee is allegedly kidnapped.

http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/casey-anthony-dancing3.jpg

The poor girl. She's just out of her mind with grief! :mad:

[flipflop]

That's not Casey in that pic. JMO

Is there a link to the picture? I checked in the links before bothering anyone but didn't see it. Or, is it not ok to post here?

[Dells]

Yep and no need for any delays. Even Baez can handle these charges while the "A" teams continues to work on her murder charges.

So true! With all the defense attorneys on the "Dream Team" there is no way that they can say that they couldn't prepare for it. Maybe JB will have a job to do after all? I hope the state wins this motion. I wonder when it will be heard?

[flipflop]

Nevermind. I think I found the picture. Does resemble her. Who knows.

[imc_e]

The poor girl. She's just out of her mind with grief! :mad:


Earlier yesterday some of the posters were talking about renting a place in Orlando for part of the trial.

Its interesting, I think the visitors bureau may be more prepared than we think!

http://blogs.trb.com/news/opinion/chanlowe/blog/casey.gif

[imc_e]

Is there a link to the picture? I checked in the links before bothering anyone but didn't see it. Or, is it not ok to post here?

Ya not here.

Mysterywriter.com has it or find it on our Support forum listed in my signature.

Thats ALL I know. :tongueside:

[happygert]

The poor girl. She's just out of her mind with grief! :mad:

maybe she's feeling the girl up to see if maybe she's hiding Caylee in her bra....Annie did you hear anything about someone wanting a speedy trial on the check fraud charges? Was watching NG and she said it in her opening but hasn't said anymore about it..

[flipflop]

Ya not here.

Mysterywriter.com has it or find it on our Support forum listed in my signature.

Thats ALL I know. :tongueside:

Ok, thank you. I think I found it though if it is just the one depicting an oral fixation lol.

[AnniePie]

Earlier yesterday some of the posters were talking about renting a place in Orlando for part of the trial.

Its interesting, I think the visitors bureau may be more prepared than we think!

http://blogs.trb.com/news/opinion/chanlowe/blog/casey.gif

I've seen that before. I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce (or whatever you call it down there) is crossing their fingers that there is no change of venue!

[AnniePie]

maybe she's feeling the girl up to see if maybe she's hiding Caylee in her bra....Annie did you hear anything about someone wanting a speedy trial on the check fraud charges? Was watching NG and she said it in her opening but hasn't said anymore about it..


Sorry Gert, I don't know. I missed NG tonight and no one here mentioned it. (I don't think. I've been in and out this evening.)

[AnniePie]

Good evening night shift!

You've arrived ndy! It's about time. :smile:

[happygert]

Sorry Gert, I don't know. I missed NG tonight and no one here mentioned it. (I don't think. I've been in and out this evening.)

Thanks .. Ng just mentioned it in her opening and that was all she said nothing more and that really pi$$es me off when she does that.. follow up dang it......Is what I scream at her but she doesn't hear me..LOL.....

[imc_e]

I've seen that before. I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce (or whatever you call it down there) is crossing their fingers that there is no change of venue!


Yes we have chamber of commerce, sounds like a bank..lol

Here is a handwriting analysis of Caseys,

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/handwriting-expert-analyzes-casey-anthonys-writing/

My cat Hazel says good night friends!

[AnniePie]

Thanks .. Ng just mentioned it in her opening and that was all she said nothing more and that really pi$$es me off when she does that.. follow up dang it......Is what I scream at her but she doesn't hear me..LOL.....

Yeah, she can be really deaf that way. :smile:

[AnniePie]

Yes we have chamber of commerce, sounds like a bank..lol

Here is a handwriting analysis of Caseys,

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/handwriting-expert-analyzes-casey-anthonys-writing/

My cat Hazel says good night friends!

I do handwriting analysis as well, and I can tell you that I agree with this analysis.

When Hazel goes to bed, does that mean her mom needs to go too? :sad:

[happygert]

I think it has to do with bringing her to trial for SOMETHING at this time - in this case the fraudulent check charges...also, be nice to NG or she will have you "PUT UP ON THE SCREEN" to berate you at embarrassing length! She's been on vacation and seemed extra pissed tonight...ODOM - HOROWITZ - RHIANNA...lol...she's fresh as a daisy and ready to fight. Her inner victim rails on :cursing: - ya gotta love her...reminds me of a dog with a bone...

But who wants to bring her to trial now proscuetion? are they pushing this? I hope they are then wont she to go on to the big house instead of being in PC at the county jail? Hope the judge lets them take her to trial now.. that would be great...Cause the way its going now she wont be going to trial on that until 2015.. they way her defense is prolonging her murder trial..

[Dick Tracy]

Earlier yesterday some of the posters were talking about renting a place in Orlando for part of the trial.

Its interesting, I think the visitors bureau may be more prepared than we think!

http://blogs.trb.com/news/opinion/chanlowe/blog/casey.gif

I'm going.

[AnniePie]

So...is it safe to rant or vent yet? Or be ridiculously snarky perhaps? :tonguewag:

Go for it, Mama!

[happygert]

gert - I think this is exactly the reason...to change her living situation - no one can seem to get any sleep there what with her screaming for Caylee all night long...I think she's booked for the "La Bella Vita" suite...

Oh i surely hope they get her in a courtroom soon.. that way she can get on with her beautiful life In her nice suite... I really dont think casey will be lonely in there.. by the looks of her pictures I don't think she discriminates against either sex...male or female

[happygert]

Night DT...........

[Dick Tracy]

No.. I'm going to Orlando when the trial starts.

I'm still here, but I'm working on other stuff.

[happygert]

She seems to me to be the type of person who would get along extremely well in prison if she is ever released into the General Population - and I agree with you about her (ahem) taste in partners, gert. She would surely get the attention she so desperately craves...

Yes no doubt about that..
But she'd better start laying off thr poptarts and pork rinds.. I really don't think in the big house she can order stuff like that and bring it to her suite for later snacking..

[happygert]

No.. I'm going to Orlando when the trial starts.

I'm still here, but I'm working on other stuff.


Oh sorry.. I have a friend who lives in orlando may have to go visit her.

[Dick Tracy]

So what's everyone's take on how long Caylee was in trunk of the car, given in hours, or days? Please support your answer.

[happygert]

So what's everyone's take on how long Caylee was in trunk of the car, given in hours, or days? Please support your answer.

Days.. By the decomp in trunk, the maggots and the grave wax. and death band on the hair..

[happygert]

Just listened to NG again and yes !! It is the state who is demanding a speedy trial in the check fraud charges... dang there should be a hearing coming up soon on this... Hope Judge don't give the defense time until after the murder trial..

[happygert]

What is everyone's take on why the prosecution wants to go to the jail and take a picture of her July 8 tattoo now? Why now?

Imo they are getting there case ready and they want all their ducks in a row.. They are going day by day according to interviews of friends to knock down that she WAS NOT looking for Caylee in those 30 days.. IMO they have something that she was doing every single day for 30 days.. they are going to present that evidence to the jury

[happygert]

did everyone leave? well guess im heading to bed see ya all later today.. night all

[Dick Tracy]

Imo they are getting there case ready and they want all their ducks in a row.. They are going day by day according to interviews of friends to knock down that she WAS NOT looking for Caylee in those 30 days.. IMO they have something that she was doing every single day for 30 days.. they are going to present that evidence to the jury

ITA. The entire prosecution case is going to a) show she was the last one seen with Caylee b) show each day, hour by hour (from the time last seen until July 15th), to counteract the PRP's statement of "I've been looking for my child every hour, every day etc...." - and also to reflect her happy demanor during those 31 days. After that, they'll show forensic evidence, the trunk, the decomp air samples, the band on the hair, the cadaver dog information, etc.... and then to the remainis being found and the subsequent autopsy report.

To type even half of what they're going to do is a mountain of evidence AGAINST the Pork Rind Princess, ex-internet porn starlet.

[happygert]

ITA. The entire prosecution case is going to a) show she was the last one seen with Caylee b) show each day, hour by hour (from the time last seen until July 15th), to counteract the PRP's statement of "I've been looking for my child every hour, every day etc...." - and also to reflect her happy demanor during those 31 days. After that, they'll show forensic evidence, the trunk, the decomp air samples, the band on the hair, the cadaver dog information, etc.... and then to the remainis being found and the subsequent autopsy report.

To type even half of what they're going to do is a mountain of evidence AGAINST the Pork Rind Princess, ex-internet porn starlet.

Is that what the 1200 pictures are that LE found??

No way any reasonable jury will ever discount.. the 30 days hair in trunk, maggots in trunk, smelltrunk, grave wax in the trunk.duct tape around her entire head nose and mouth no way.. they can get all the attorneys they want but imo it's not going to do them any good..
Oh yes mountains of evidence...

[AnniePie]

Oh sorry.. I have a friend who lives in orlando may have to go visit her.

I have a friend in Or-lawn-do too.


If I thought I could get a seat in that courtroom, I would definitely be there!!

[happygert]

I read this on another site, but I think it is dead on...remember Casey Marie Lazarro, Mrs. Anthony Lazzarro - like a lovesick little puppy... and who could forget that on her little "doodle" she spelled his last name and didn't even know him well enough to know whether his name had one or two Z's in it!! Lee said she was a chameleon - I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one to think this...so sad...she is sick:bored:


Someone asked why she got a tattoo in Italian…Its because her NEW boyfriend Tony is ITALIAN..Lazzaro!…She is a sociopath ..she plays the good girlfriend..that is why she stole money to grocery shop and cook and feed them beer…she used to be proud of being irish until she met Tony..she did that to IMPRESS him..she killed Caylee to BE WITH HIM….sociopath..truly!..She has no true sense of herself because her parents enabled her all her life…


ITA c and g did not give her any consquences to her actions ever.. she got by with everything and c & g covered for her and paid her way out.. she got by with so much she even thought she'd get by with murder..

[AnniePie]

What is everyone's take on why the prosecution wants to go to the jail and take a picture of her July 8 tattoo now? Why now?

I honestly can't figure that one out! :confused:
It isn't like they coudn't have got a pic of her tattoo before this point in time.

[happygert]

Night gert - always good to see your posts...good point...sleep well

One more cig then off to bed.. have to take sister to have surgery in am.( well in about 4 hours).I dont sleep very well hoping to get at least a couple hours in...

[AnniePie]

Yes no doubt about that..
But she'd better start laying off thr poptarts and pork rinds.. I really don't think in the big house she can order stuff like that and bring it to her suite for later snacking..

Oh no Gert! I so want her to have access to all these pork rinds and anything else which is terribly fattening and decadent! She needs to see that she is NOT in control of her little world. Sometimes your actions come back to bite you in your (ever-increasing) butt!

[happygert]

I have a friend in Or-lawn-do too.


If I thought I could get a seat in that courtroom, I would definitely be there!!


yes probably have to be ther early and get a ticket to see if your number is called....lol..have like a lottery for a seat..

[Postergeist]

Is that what the 1200 pictures are that LE found??

No way any reasonable jury will ever discount.. the 30 days hair in trunk, maggots in trunk, smelltrunk, grave wax in the trunk.duct tape around her entire head nose and mouth no way.. they can get all the attorneys they want but imo it's not going to do them any good..
Oh yes mountains of evidence...

good point- I hope all that evidence is allowed

(typing slow tonite, got a dog bite the other nite)

I hope LE asked about the blanket, as far as when was it last seen in the house.

(btw- I did see *the* pic & think it's her- the hairline, nose, and irises match imo)

[happygert]

Oh no Gert! I so want her to have access to all these pork rinds and anything else which is terribly fattening and decadent! She needs to see that she is NOT in control of her little world. Sometimes your actions come back to bite you in your (ever-increasing) butt!

LOL.. remember Betty Broderick? She was thin and when she went to the big house she got almost as big as the big house. casey will have to eat what they dish out.. don't think she'll get thin in there..she'll pack on the pounds with out the pounds of pork rinds and poptarts..

[happygert]

good point- I hope all that evidence is allowed

(typing slow tonite, got a dog bite the other nite)

I hope LE asked about the blanket, as far as when was it last seen in the house.

(btw- I did see *the* pic & think it's her- the hairline, nose, and irises match imo)

oh dang Postergiest hope your bite gets better soon..

Yes so do I but they'll lie.. yes I even hope the jailhouse tape is allowed in the one where Caylee's remains were found..

[Postergeist]

I think that her extensive texting is gonna bite her in the *** - I think some of the pictures she so deliberately tried to delete are more than likely what the "youngsters" today call "sexting" and are so explicit that they would be considered pornographic...and her constant need to communicate every little detail to every person she knew 24/7 she can never explain away because each and every one of them is nothing but another nail in her coffin because LE can tell exactly where she was at all times...darn those pesky pings...

and to think her daddy is soooo proud of her! :huh:

(well, if I was a dude, I'd be proud- lol- but I don't think the father of the inmate should be bragging that he is, ick)

[AnniePie]

I think that her extensive texting is gonna bite her in the *** - I think some of the pictures she so deliberately tried to delete are more than likely what the "youngsters" today call "sexting" and are so explicit that they would be considered pornographic...and her constant need to communicate every little detail to every person she knew 24/7 she can never explain away because each and every one of them is nothing but another nail in her coffin because LE can tell exactly where she was at all times...darn those pesky pings...

I so hope you're right, ndy! I'm ancient, so I can't understand the texting generation. I *especially* can't understand the "sexting" thing! But I'm hoping that there is something about the OC's texts that will incriminate her.

It is just so odd that she would be texting 24 hours a day. What on earth could she possibly be talking about all those hours of the day!?

I know that TL said that many times he just fell asleep listening to her babbling. What did she have to say that many hours a day?!

[happygert]

I honestly can't figure that one out! :confused:
It isn't like they coudn't have got a pic of her tattoo before this point in time.


I think they are going day by day to show jury what she was doing in those 30 days that she claimed to be looking for Caylee..

Heck they also may be going to use it in the check fraud case.. How did she pay for this tattoo.. maybe the day she got that tattoo she cashed a check of Amy's on the same day?

[AnniePie]

good point- I hope all that evidence is allowed

(typing slow tonite, got a dog bite the other nite)

I hope LE asked about the blanket, as far as when was it last seen in the house.

(btw- I did see *the* pic & think it's her- the hairline, nose, and irises match imo)


You okay, Poster? Did you get that bite checked out?

[Postergeist]

oh dang Postergiest hope your bite gets better soon..

Yes so do I but they'll lie.. yes I even hope the jailhouse tape is allowed in the one where Caylee's remains were found..


thanks gert- (btw- I found out that Walgreen's doesn't sell tongue depressers, so I'm using 2 metal finger stabilizer thingies. bad thing is, after I iced it down Sun. nite- within 20 min. my fingers were numb. the feeling isn't back yet, like it compressed a nerve. he got my left ring finger good and it affected my pinky- but my Lee is working fine!)


I hope the jail tape comes in as well!

hope your sis does well in the AM.

[happygert]

dang hope they have those pictures I seen one a long time ago but only one.. yes bet her daddy and mommy are so proud of their little girl.. the murdering porno queen..

[AnniePie]

LOL.. remember Betty Broderick? She was thin and when she went to the big house she got almost as big as the big house. casey will have to eat what they dish out.. don't think she'll get thin in there..she'll pack on the pounds with out the pounds of pork rinds and poptarts..

I was too busy raising babies when the BB case was in the news, so I wasn't connected with any of this. But I'm glad to hear this, and I wish Casey O'Marie the very same fate. She SO deserves it.

[Postergeist]

I think they are going day by day to show jury what she was doing in those 30 days that she claimed to be looking for Caylee..

Heck they also may be going to use it in the check fraud case.. How did she pay for this tattoo.. maybe the day she got that tattoo she cashed a check of Amy's on the same day?

can all that be admitted- the thieving and stealing? I hope it will, but wonder if the def. will try to strike all that as not imp. to this case.

[AnniePie]

I feel stupid but what is ITA?

Don't feel stupid, ndy! We all started out not knowing this stuff.

ITA means "I Totally Agree".

[happygert]

thanks gert- (btw- I found out that Walgreen's doesn't sell tongue depressers, so I'm using 2 metal finger stabilizer thingies. bad thing is, after I iced it down Sun. nite- within 20 min. my fingers were numb. the feeling isn't back yet, like it compressed a nerve. he got my left ring finger good and it affected my pinky- but my Lee is working fine!)


I hope the jail tape comes in as well!

hope your sis does well in the AM.

was it a stray dog? You didnt go to hospital? you should have had it checked.. Well glad Lee is still working........LOL...
Thank You, the last 2 weeks I've spent a whole lot of time at hospitals.. Mom, Brother and now sister.. Mom and brother heart.. sis broke her tibula and fibula saturday morning they had to wait unitl swelling went down some.. They'll have to put it back together with plates pins and screws..

Oh yes I hope that tape comes in.. If it comes in will it then be released to the public?? I hope so I want to see that dang tape..

[Postergeist]

You okay, Poster? Did you get that bite checked out?

well, i've been better, at least it's not a kidney stone! didn't break the skin but a small slice on the underside- didn't want to see the doc as they report all animal bites, then send the animal po-po out & then you get to board the animal for 10 days at $100+ so I'd have to resort to lying (stray dog- when it's really my dad's dog)- makes it difficult to type as I norm. use all my digits. but I do wonder how long it takes nerves to heal- I don't plan to ask that Dr. spitz dude tho!

[happygert]

hey gert...question...how many times do you say "just one more cig then off to bed" before you actually get there? I'd say I do that on average about 6 or 7 times a night! :tonguewag: Can't...walk....away....might....miss....something ...good...lol

LOL.. so do I.. Your in Indy right? Im in IL.. have to go to Mom's to get sister and mom at 7:00 and its a little after 3.. they live about 35 mintues away... not much sleep again tonight....

[happygert]

well, i've been better, at least it's not a kidney stone! didn't break the skin but a small slice on the underside- didn't want to see the doc as they report all animal bites, then send the animal po-po out & then you get to board the animal for 10 days at $100+ so I'd have to resort to lying (stray dog- when it's really my dad's dog)- makes it difficult to type as I norm. use all my digits. but I do wonder how long it takes nerves to heal- I don't plan to ask that Dr. spitz dude tho!

Umm Postergeist,, I dont think nerves heal at least not on there own..

[Postergeist]

dang hope they have those pictures I seen one a long time ago but only one.. yes bet her daddy and mommy are so proud of their little girl.. the murdering porno queen..


oh- one was enuf for me! lol- earlier someone had provided a link and it was blurred- then later today I couldn't find the link posted and found another site and whoa nelly- that's why I said if I was a dude... I'd be a proud owner, but she's the pride of the Anthony's so what can I say?!

[happygert]

http://media.photobucket.com/image/casey%20anthony%20tattoo/bigmouthshelly/kcbozo-1.jpg

This is for you annie and gert - apologizing in advance in case this gives you nightmares! It's a doozie...:w00t:

roflamo......you're right.....its a doozie...:lol:

[Postergeist]

hey gert...question...how many times do you say "just one more cig then off to bed" before you actually get there? I'd say I do that on average about 6 or 7 times a night! :tonguewag: Can't...walk....away....might....miss....something ...good...lol

hey- she's a bonafide high paying tax payer- sheese, don'tcha know it's the tobacky users that are now paying for everyone's health care!

smoke 'em if ya got 'em

:thumbup:

[happygert]

can all that be admitted- the thieving and stealing? I hope it will, but wonder if the def. will try to strike all that as not imp. to this case.

I know it's coming in the check fraud case.. Pros want that trial started from what I understand from the headlines on NG.. I realy think it will come in on the murder case to.. For the reason of showing no way she could have paid for a nanny because she didnt have a job and was stealing from everyone family and friends to pay for her partying., tattoo's shopping sprees....

[Postergeist]

was it a stray dog? You didnt go to hospital? you should have had it checked.. Well glad Lee is still working........LOL...
Thank You, the last 2 weeks I've spent a whole lot of time at hospitals.. Mom, Brother and now sister.. Mom and brother heart.. sis broke her tibula and fibula saturday morning they had to wait unitl swelling went down some.. They'll have to put it back together with plates pins and screws..

Oh yes I hope that tape comes in.. If it comes in will it then be released to the public?? I hope so I want to see that dang tape..


oh - poor family & poor you! (one of my dad's dogs we rescued off the street- we've rescued 5 total)

your poor sis- I hope she doesn't have to have that awful metal rod thing that sticks up and across, my dad had that last yr. for months (and a cadaver bone transplant- ugh) prayers to all your kin for speedy recoveries

[AnniePie]

hey gert...question...how many times do you say "just one more cig then off to bed" before you actually get there? I'd say I do that on average about 6 or 7 times a night! :tonguewag: Can't...walk....away....might....miss....something ...good...lol

ndy, you are such a BRAT!

[happygert]

I feel stupid but what is ITA?

No need to feel stupid.. we all had to ask at one time.. I did anyway..

IIRC if you dont know what that is= If I remember correctly..

[happygert]

Ok all my friends I'm off to bed.. Postergeist take care of that hand.. see ya all later tonight..

[AnniePie]

http://media.photobucket.com/image/casey%20anthony%20tattoo/bigmouthshelly/kcbozo-1.jpg

This is for you annie and gert - apologizing in advance in case this gives you nightmares! It's a doozie...:w00t:

OMH This is hysterical! I don't want to be TOO mean, but this is just poifect!!

[Postergeist]

I know it's coming in the check fraud case.. Pros want that trial started from what I understand from the headlines on NG.. I realy think it will come in on the murder case to.. For the reason of showing no way she could have paid for a nanny because she didnt have a job and was stealing from everyone family and friends to pay for her partying., tattoo's shopping sprees....

oh my eyes! :scared: i clicked that link-

so the fraud case could start before the murder trial? hmmm- well- I'd think the A's would all be called to testify for that. that'll be a sad day if g'ma Shirley will have to testify tho.

good point about showing the lack of reg. funds coming in could not pay for a nanny, etc. (but they may try to get around that as she did say at some pt. that Z didn't need the $, she's loaded or something like that)

[Postergeist]

nitey nite gert- sleep well- we'll be thinking of you tomo. morning-

[Postergeist]

will Brad be representing the A's at the fraud trial as well? don't most couples often get separate attys to represent them or is that typically when they have been under suspicion (like the Ramseys)?

[Postergeist]

OMH This is hysterical! I don't want to be TOO mean, but this is just poifect!!

yanno what they say Annie- there's a lid for every pot- :laugh:

[AnniePie]

[QUOTE=Postergeist;13217554]yanno what they say Annie- there's a lid for every pot- :laugh:[/QUO


There is!

I'm sorry to have disappeared. I started to play a game inbetween posts and it wouldn't let me out!!!

[Postergeist]

fyi- i'd edit my post quick so as not to get in trouble mentioning the link

i was looking up some old video of what C & G were up too last yr- here's the one where C was telling the story that Caylee was in PR (cuz she'd been sold)

wonder tho who it was that texted Amy?

http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Caylee-Anthony-sold-in-Puerto-Rico-/1222439074.html

[anon-o-miss]

http://media.photobucket.com/image/casey%20anthony%20tattoo/bigmouthshelly/kcbozo-1.jpg

This is for you annie and gert - apologizing in advance in case this gives you nightmares! It's a doozie...:w00t:

LOL what a way to start the day ndy :thumbsup:

[Postergeist]

There is!

I'm sorry to have disappeared. I started to play a game inbetween posts and it wouldn't let me out!!!


lol- yeah, I get griped if I'm playing a game and there's no pause button (sometimes happens at gamehouse or gamershood)

while you were having fun I was posting news about France not wanting burkas in the OC forum. need to give my hand a rest tho...

c'ya~

[Postergeist]

TY Poster...my bad...duly edited...lol

yw- PM sent

[anon-o-miss]

That's me - always good for a giggle...and good morning miss...did you see my post above about the computer repair customers? It is true...all true...lol:w00t:
:laugh: I sure did.

[anon-o-miss]

Have never seen this before....hmmmmmmmmmm...interesting.....
Seems to me someone was already trying to set those poor kids up to take the fall for Casey. G&C better be careful because I think their turn to be Zanny (Zany:rolleyes:) is coming up here directly lmao.

[~layla~]

new thread.


click here (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=355242)
Good Morning everyone.

[kanzz]

It S*cked, big time and that is always why I could relate to Cynthia Sommers.

She was doing the best that she could under the conditions.

Casey, is totally opposite. IMO.

She shows no remorse is the one thing that gets me the most. H*ll, I blamed myself for my husband's death.

All JMO.


Bless your heart, 2witchy4u.

Since we're again discussing Sommer, here's a thought:
Basically, her 'ugly coping' was probably what got her convicted of a crime that never happened. Of course, she never should have been arrested in the first place, but that's a whole other discussion altogether.
Ugly coping doesn't really apply in this case, imo, because this child was allegedly 'missing'.

[AnnieBell]

well, i've been better, at least it's not a kidney stone! didn't break the skin but a small slice on the underside- didn't want to see the doc as they report all animal bites, then send the animal po-po out & then you get to board the animal for 10 days at $100+ so I'd have to resort to lying (stray dog- when it's really my dad's dog)- makes it difficult to type as I norm. use all my digits. but I do wonder how long it takes nerves to heal- I don't plan to ask that Dr. spitz dude tho!

Postergeist, I've got 2 precious dogs myself, love my girls! But, I'm concerned about the nerve symptoms you're experiencing. Also,there was a study that came out earlier today about other resevoirs of the superbug, MRSA being found in animals other than the typical bats,rodents and monkeys. Alarmingly, they have determined that cats and dogs are now carrying the MRSA bacteria and are vessels for the transmission and spread to humans. This isn't something you need to be messing around with.....so out of concern from a fellow poster please try to find a way to seek medical help. And let me know what happens...

[Explorer]

TY Poster...my bad...duly edited...lol

That is the first time I heard that. UNBELIEVABLE It has the anthony fingerprints ALL over it.:cursing: