Monday, June 22, 2009 #1

[SandyO]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

They are waaaaaaaaaay too busy to be bothered with yard work these days! But I'm SURE they could afford a yard man to do it.

[kitty1182]

:seeya: It's too bad it didn't come out in court who the guy next to Cindy was. Woulda been just peachy if after the media attorney asked George how many times they've been on TV, gotten his lame answer, and then said "and who accompanied you to court today, sitting in the second row next to your wife? Would that be a producer for the Today Show? Thank you Judge, I have no further questions for this grieving grandfather."

If only.

But aside from that, I'm sure it's well known by every outlet who that man is by now - why doesn't anyone bring this to light? It would make a laughingstock of the Anthonys and the Today Show and show what hypocrites they are.

How brazen, to show up in court pleading for their grief-stricken selves with a friggin' TV producer at their side!

That would have been so cool..I probally would have fell out of my chair..:biggrin:

[kitty1182]

KFN 2007 Tax Return (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5848193/Kid-Finder)

Yeah, I got connections. :sneaky:

Uniforms? lol

[Lavinia]

I see a couple of pics with Caylee with this apparent injury. http://i43.tinypic.com/21al46f.jpg

Where did (alleged) hairdresser say that Caylee had a bruise?

[Explorer]

That would have been so cool..I probally would have fell out of my chair..:biggrin:

Why was he there? Was he going to get up and make a statement? I would have LOVED to have seen that:biggrin:

[AMS]

Well, I guess when you travel, ride in limos, make up, bright lights, you just don't have time for the things you use to do..lol

kitty - you could dig up that bush and they would never notice. :wink:

imo

[Ellie]

Yep, I do remember that but I seriously don't think Casey has the ability to think that far and deeply into things (meaning I doubt she'd have put it there after Caylee died to make it look like someone else did it). GOD I hate to say this but is it a common assumption here that little Caylee suffocated to death? Do you think this happened in the trunk of Casey's car?

I think the defense (as most everyone here said too) is going to use a trick to try to get Casey off. They're going to use a glitch or some small thing not to cast doubt but to say someone did their job incorrectly or not thoroughly or something.

I can barely bring myself to look at pictures of Caylee any more. My daughter is going on 2 and I think "how could ANYone want to harm a little child? How could a MOTHER not want to, instead, protect their child with every bone and fiber of their being?!" Prison is too good for Casey Anthony, but then so is the death penalty.


These 2 are talking about there new book and Caylees autopsy which they havent read yet. It also makes me CRAZY.....

Do you remember when we felt that she was staging Caylee as being kidnapped. Maybe thats why there was layers of the tape..? Around the mouth to keep her quite and then around the nose to stop her from breathing.

[Imperfect4]

I always thought the cremation was a combination of Cindy's need for absolute control of Caylee's remains and hateful spite for those of who dared care for Caylee without supporting her monster of a daughter. No way was Cindy going to put Caylee in a cementary, where us maggots and fat lazy bloggers could actually visit her and grieve for her without the Anthony's permission. No way, no how. Exhibit A: Continued desecration of the memorials at the site where Caylee was found.

I agree, but I also add the fact she (Cindy) didn't want any more testing done on the remains once the state was done. God forbid some miracle of science down the line could prove a cause of death.

Cindy's handling of Caylee's remains and "memorial service" perfectly illustrates her personality profile, imo.

[summer]

Yep, I do remember that but I seriously don't think Casey has the ability to think that far and deeply into things (meaning I doubt she'd have put it there after Caylee died to make it look like someone else did it). GOD I hate to say this but is it a common assumption here that little Caylee suffocated to death? Do you think this happened in the trunk of Casey's car?

I think the defense (as most everyone here said too) is going to use a trick to try to get Casey off. They're going to use a glitch or some small thing not to cast doubt but to say someone did their job incorrectly or not thoroughly or something.

I can barely bring myself to look at pictures of Caylee any more. My daughter is going on 2 and I think "how could ANYone want to harm a little child? How could a MOTHER not want to, instead, protect their child with every bone and fiber of their being?!" Prison is too good for Casey Anthony, but then so is the death penalty.

Ellie, I've always thought she died in the trunk but I think I'm in the minority - most folks think she died in the house.

[Lavinia]

i know i don't get many replies to what i post.....BUT CAN I THANK YOU ALL!!! HERE FOR having a place to come to where i am not being told the duct tape was to cover and accident that the autopsy report is inconvlusive...that the internet searches are weak...that Caylee Marie died of a complete accident...and we should feel bad for George And Cindy Anthony...and that Casey is just as much as a victim as everyone else. THANK YOU EVERYONE for a place where Caylee Marie is honored!!!!!!!!:smile:

Caylee Marie:wub:

Where in the heck have you been, neid?! :ohmy:

[bchand]

:seeya: It's too bad it didn't come out in court who the guy next to Cindy was. Woulda been just peachy if after the media attorney asked George how many times they've been on TV, gotten his lame answer, and then said "and who accompanied you to court today, sitting in the second row next to your wife? Would that be a producer for the Today Show? Thank you Judge, I have no further questions for this grieving grandfather."

If only.

But aside from that, I'm sure it's well known by every outlet who that man is by now - why doesn't anyone bring this to light? It would make a laughingstock of the Anthonys and the Today Show and show what hypocrites they are.

How brazen, to show up in court pleading for their grief-stricken selves with a friggin' TV producer at their side!


Great point. I'd like to know what he and Cindy were yucking it up about before the judge arrived also. Wasn't that supposed to be solemn occasion? Please Judge, we are still in deep mourning?

[kitty1182]

kitty - you could dig up that bush and they would never notice. :wink:

imo

Yep...:biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

They are waaaaaaaaaay too busy to be bothered with yard work these days! But I'm SURE they could afford a yard man to do it.

Busy with what? :confused:

Maybe they should turn off the TV, put their laptops aside, and get busy with some lawn maintenance.

A pleasant, well-manicured front yard would do a whole lot more for their tender psyches than keeping track of the fact they're not pulling the wool over anyone's eyes these days. :rolleyes:

[ish]

No idea. Maybe the front of the house and driveway were occupied when he arrived?

And what's up with the lawn? :confused:

I'm sure Cindy and George will not be out gardening like they did back in the early days of this case. They have bigger and better things to do, searching for missing children and supporting the parents of said missing children. You know they have been "called". I also wouldn't be at all surprised to see them move, too many memories, too many people driving by for a look-see. I see a home in a gated community in their future. After all they have a steady source of income for George now.

[Imperfect4]

Uniforms? lol

What? A fake police outfit to go with the flashing lights? :rolleyes:

[Lavinia]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

I think they got some of that new helium furniture. You know, the kind that needs to be held down by a body all day. :sneaky:

[texski]

They are waaaaaaaaaay too busy to be bothered with yard work these days! But I'm SURE they could afford a yard man to do it.

in florida in winter the yards have to be watered , and given fertilizer,, insect killer, and weed killer. that is a very small lawn, would be cheap to do it . but if they have turned of the sprinklers they would need new sod. i am a woman in the 70s and i could do it myself, so maybe they are just mad at the neighbors as well as the rest of the world.

[kitty1182]

What? A fake police outfit to go with the flashing lights? :rolleyes:

hahaha:lol:

[Sandy001]

KFN 2007 Tax Return (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5848193/Kid-Finder)

Yeah, I got connections. :sneaky:

$13,701 for internet expenses. Somehow I don't think kids are found on the internet.

Also in their receipt, it includes shampoo among many other things. Do they wash the hair of their volunteers? How ANY organization spend $39,000 that they don't have. I dont' know about them, but I only have what I get paid to spend.

And I bet they comingle like crazy. jmo

[Lavinia]

What? A fake police outfit to go with the flashing lights? :rolleyes:

:laugh: Bought at "Police Uniforms For The Big and Tall Grifter"?

[Imperfect4]

I see a couple of pics with Caylee with this apparent injury. http://i43.tinypic.com/21al46f.jpg

Where did (alleged) hairdresser say that Caylee had a bruise?

On her face, IIRC. Below her eye? Like right where that mark is? I think the story is she ran into a table.

[AMS]

NG's FaceBook announcement for tonight!

Nancy Grace On the lineup tonight: Chris Brown and Rihanna come face to face in court! Today's preliminary hearing marks the first time Rihanna speaks publicly about the night Brown allegedly attacked her. Plus, more heartbreaking details from the release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report.

imo

[TunaMelt]

des -- does that look like Casey to you? Doesn't to me. :huh:

#25 isn't Casey.

Just another ho among the many. :sneaky: But not casey.

:wink:

[Lavinia]

On her face, IIRC. Below her eye? Like right where that mark is? I think the story is she ran into a table.

I'm just wondering if this is the same mark. Isn't Casey denying that she even had a hairdresser?

[ish]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

If George and Cindy started the yard work again, I'm sure you'd get a few nuts that would come by to start some trouble. It was easy enough to rile up Cindy and George before, I would truly be worried for public safety now (whatever happened to George's gun). No not a good idea, hire a landscaper.

[AMS]

I think they got some of that new helium furniture. You know, the kind that needs to be held down by a body all day. :sneaky:

Where do you come up with these one-liners????? :thumbsup::thumbsup: Too funny!

imo

[Dick Tracy]

I turned the View on Late.... Did NG come on yet? TIA

[Lavinia]

Where do you come up with these one-liners????? :thumbsup::thumbsup: Too funny!

imo

I'm all that's left from a bizarre childhood. :wink:

[TunaMelt]

On her face, IIRC. Below her eye? Like right where that mark is? I think the story is she ran into a table.

The ones that bother me in that group are the pics where her mama dearest has her great big horseface smile on, and caylee looks so serious, with circles under her eyes.

she seemed like an alert little girl. why would she be so out of sync with the general atmosphere in so many photos taken at different times?

clearly, something was wrong in that house.
and it affected caylee but not her sociopath mother.

:mellow:

[Sandy001]

in florida in winter the yards have to be watered , and given fertilizer,, insect killer, and weed killer. that is a very small lawn, would be cheap to do it . but if they have turned of the sprinklers they would need new sod. i am a woman in the 70s and i could do it myself, so maybe they are just mad at the neighbors as well as the rest of the world.


Maybe the foundation will pay for it.

[5boxersmom]

I turned the View on Late.... Did NG come on yet? TIA

She was on the last 10 minutes of the show.

[ish]

I'm just wondering if this is the same mark. Isn't Casey denying that she even had a hairdresser?

Yeah, she got all bent out of shape on that one, NO ONE HAS TOUCHED MY HAIR FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH AMOUNT OF TIMES!!! Total over reaction. Must be some reason for it though.

[alisa31235]

I'm just wondering if this is the same mark. Isn't Casey denying that she even had a hairdresser?

But But she did not need a hairdresser she had that flat iron that the nanny the is a ten gave her.......JMO

[Sandy001]

I turned the View on Late.... Did NG come on yet? TIA It's 10:39 here and she's coming on after the commercial

[Ellie]

On her face, IIRC. Below her eye? Like right where that mark is? I think the story is she ran into a table.

Yeah, Tone said this happened at his apartment and he was there and saw it happen. Don't know about you all but he's one of the (very) few I trust in this whole cast of characters. Tone couldn't care less about Casey-- he was planning to move back to NY, right? It wasn't like he was going to rearrange his life to be with Casey and doesn't have a need to protect her. Personally I think he's proven himself to me and I do trust what he says.

[ish]

Maybe the foundation will pay for it.

maybe they are trying to get sympathy via the sorry state of their lawn, "Oh look at that sad lawn, the people who leave here must be so sad too"

[Sandy001]

But But she did not need a hairdresser she had that flat iron that the nanny the is a ten gave her.......JMO
Casey does not even HAVE curly hair. Why would she need a flat iron?

[Unleashed]

#25. :laugh:


I :wub: you.

I don't think that's her. Too slim.

JMO

[SandyO]

10:43 for westies, and Nancy is coming on The View next up.

[Dick Tracy]

She was on the last 10 minutes of the show.

Thanks Mom! I'm on the left coast, and just wanted to see if he says anything about the Anthony case. Appreciate the fast reply!

[Cynthia]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

[Sandy001]

maybe they are trying to get sympathy via the sorry state of their lawn, "Oh look at that sad lawn, the people who leave here must be so sad too"
The HOA might complain if fhey are not careful

[AnnieBell]

Books of charities (which they claim the Foundation is) have to be open for public viewing.

Point me in the right direction and off I'll go.:biggrin:

[Lavinia]

Yeah, she got all bent out of shape on that one, NO ONE HAS TOUCHED MY HAIR FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH AMOUNT OF TIMES!!! Total over reaction. Must be some reason for it though.

That's what I thought. She didn't get all indignant over anything else but the hairdresser set her OFF! Perked my ears up, it did.

[Dick Tracy]

10:43 for westies, and Nancy is coming on The View next up.


Tanks Said Rommell. Many tanks!

[SandyO]

Yeah, Tone said this happened at his apartment and he was there and saw it happen. Don't know about you all but he's one of the (very) few I trust in this whole cast of characters. Tone couldn't care less about Casey-- he was planning to move back to NY, right? It wasn't like he was going to rearrange his life to be with Casey and doesn't have a need to protect her. Personally I think he's proven himself to me and I do trust what he says.

Do you know where he is these days? Is he still in Orlando or has he finished up school and moved back to New York?

[Snoopy50]

Sign Shack Unlimited Corp
(561) 753-2221
1740 E Rd
All State Seeding & Erosion
1740 E Rd
Loxahatchee, FL 33470-4864
561-798-3220
Click here if this is your business.
Loxahatchee, FL 33470



Ummmm....it appears that the Milsteins have MULTIPLE businesses at the same address.Since one of them is a lawn care company, they could easily be taking care of their new BFF Anthony's yard. Anyone see the tax returns for these businesses?Frankly, I think these people are HUGE scammers, fitting that they hooked up with the A's.:thumbdown:

[Sandy001]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html


Would that be sweet or what? If she gets convicted on that, she won't be in jail anymore - she'll be in prison and brought back to jail for the murder trial. It would also allow that information in at her murder trial - HOW she treats her friends and family.

[ellegna]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

They were sure doing a lot of yard work when the cameras, media and protesters were there. They are all gone so no need to maintain the yard. :tonguewag:

[Lavinia]

But But she did not need a hairdresser she had that flat iron that the nanny the is a ten gave her.......JMO

And she never cuts her hair, it just grows to a bob and stops. Except when in the presence of jail air; then it grows. :rolleyes: Ai yi yi.

[alisa31235]

Casey does not even HAVE curly hair. Why would she need a flat iron?

you know for the life of me i can`t remember why the flat iron was brought up or why it sticks out in my mind maybe the jail visit ?????? JMO

[Ellie]

Do you know where he is these days? Is he still in Orlando or has he finished up school and moved back to New York?

Not a clue, your guess is as good as mine. :smile:

[summer4meplz]

The ones that bother me in that group are the pics where her mama dearest has her great big horseface smile on, and caylee looks so serious, with circles under her eyes.

she seemed like an alert little girl. why would she be so out of sync with the general atmosphere in so many photos taken at different times?

clearly, something was wrong in that house.
and it affected caylee but not her sociopath mother.

:mellow:

I still think Caylee looked scared in great grandpa's lap on that video....she kept her head still but moved her eyes all around...that's a sign of someone that is scared imo.....

[Snoopy50]

1740 E Rd , loxahatchee, FL

Google this, you will find the filing of the corp and can see the financial reports for 2009. Won't let me link!!!!:angry:

[sunstar]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

I was just dropping by to see what's new today :smile: and thanks for the update! I'm glad they're going to go ahead with it and want the trial within 60 days! That would be great if she were already convicted of something before the murder trial. MOO

[SandyO]

They were sure doing a lot of yard work when the cameras, media and protesters were there. They are all gone so no need to maintain the yard. :tonguewag:

I live on acreage and can keep my yard any way I want, or park anywhere I want to, but my son lives where there is a homeowner's association and they will not put up with unkempt lawns OR parking on the lawns.

[sunstar]

Would that be seet or what? If she gets convicted on that, she won't be in jail anymore - she'll be in prison and brought back to jail for the murder trial. It would also allow that information in at her murder trial - HOW she treats her friends and family.
I so agree!!! And it could be a long sentence too. :thumbsup:

[Cynthia]

Would that be seet or what? If she gets convicted on that, she won't be in jail anymore - she'll be in prison and brought back to jail for the murder trial. It would also allow that information in at her murder trial - HOW she treats her friends and family.

State must have some strategy going with this latest motion. If convicted it should allow them room to bring this to trial to weave it in to other facts about Casey.

[Lavinia]

I live on acreage and can keep my yard any way I want, or park anywhere I want to, but my son lives where there is a homeowner's association and they will not put up with unkempt lawns OR parking on the lawns.

My HOA would be stroking OUT by now! :scared:

[texski]

KFN 2007 Tax Return (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5848193/Kid-Finder)

Yeah, I got connections. :sneaky:

thank you much, now i see why they and the ants get along so well, they are both the worlds biggest liars, imo.
everyone here needs to read.

[breezie]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

why? there's no protesters out there to take their attitude and hammer out on!

[neid_77]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html


I hope they get this!!! this be so awesome cuase she is Guilty as Hell on these charges!!! i can only hear the defense team whine and complain we will here more about those untouchable golden rights of hers!!

thanks everyone!!! it is another forum i go to their is about 4 posters on there that think this way it get's very frustrating:cursing: but there is great one's also but i love coming here cuase you all have the same wonderful collective mind...:smile:

Caylee Marie:wub:

[summer]

you know for the life of me i can`t remember why the flat iron was brought up or why it sticks out in my mind maybe the jail visit ?????? JMO

Ha ha!

Jail house convo: "Don't you remember, mom, I TOLD YOU Zanny lent me her hair straightener, cripes, you're such a WASTE!"

"Oh that's right, Sweetheart, my 10, my CEO, my fearless leader, if there's a hair straightener there MUST be a Zanny!"

[summer]

I still think Caylee looked scared in great grandpa's lap on that video....she kept her head still but moved her eyes all around...that's a sign of someone that is scared imo.....

You and me both! I think she looked absolutely terrified.

[girlspell]

I still think Caylee looked scared in great grandpa's lap on that video....she kept her head still but moved her eyes all around...that's a sign of someone that is scared imo.....


I thought so too. Yet, the rest of the video shows a relaxed, happy, and alert child.

[crimeq]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

If she's convicted on check fraud, which she will be -- will she be returned to the jail to await her murder trial, or will she be sent to prison at that time?

[SandyO]

I hope they get this!!! this be so awesome cuase she is Guilty as Hell on these charges!!! i can only hear the defense team whine and complain we will here more about those untouchable golden rights of hers!!

thanks everyone!!! it is another forum i go to their is about 4 posters on there that think this way it get's very frustrating:cursing: but there is great one's also but i love coming here cuase you all have the same wonderful collective mind...:smile:

Caylee Marie:wub:

I've noticed that too, Neid. We offer each other different perspectives, but it seems we are mostly of one mind where the major facts are concerned. Stay here and erase that other site from your computer!

[Imperfect4]

I'm just wondering if this is the same mark. Isn't Casey denying that she even had a hairdresser?

Yes, Casey denied having a hairdresser.

Imo, neither Casey's nor Caylee's hair looked home styled to me.

[Unleashed]

in florida in winter the yards have to be watered , and given fertilizer,, insect killer, and weed killer. that is a very small lawn, would be cheap to do it . but if they have turned of the sprinklers they would need new sod. i am a woman in the 70s and i could do it myself, so maybe they are just mad at the neighbors as well as the rest of the world.


Can the Homeowner's ***'n. not step in?

JMO

[True2Blues]

That yard is puzzling me no end. :huh:

We've got George, Cindy, and Lee living at the house, and perhaps even the Milsteads. Only one of that group has an actual job that takes him away from the house now and then.

Not one of those 3 or 5 adults can be bothered to care for the yard? I would think for at least a couple of them it would be therapeutic to tend the lawn, the plants, etc.

:confused:

Please! Surely you don't expect celebrities of their caliber to do menial labor? There are interviews to arrange and money to be collected, a dead Granddaughter to be exploited. They don't have time for the little things!:cursing:

[AnniePie]

Yeah, she got all bent out of shape on that one, NO ONE HAS TOUCHED MY HAIR FOR BLAH BLAH BLAH AMOUNT OF TIMES!!! Total over reaction. Must be some reason for it though.

Mornin' all!

Yes, that was what I thought when I heard it as well, ish. The woman doth protest too much. :mad:

[Cynthia]

If she's convicted on check fraud, which she will be -- will she be returned to the jail to await her murder trial, or will she be sent to prison at that time?


I wouldn't think so....since it is a high profile case the state has the obligation to keep her safe!!

[bchand]

I was just dropping by to see what's new today :smile: and thanks for the update! I'm glad they're going to go ahead with it and want the trial within 60 days! That would be great if she were already convicted of something before the murder trial. MOO


Yep and no need for any delays. Even Baez can handle these charges while the "A" teams continues to work on her murder charges.

[Lavinia]

Can the Homeowner's ***'n. not step in?

JMO

I think where I am, they can only levy penalties and place a lien on your house. I don't think I can be trespassed.

[alisa31235]

Ha ha!

Jail house convo: "Don't you remember, mom, I TOLD YOU Zanny lent me her hair straightener, cripes, you're such a WASTE!"

"Oh that's right, Sweetheart, my 10, my CEO, my fearless leader, if there's a hair straightener there MUST be a Zanny!"

LOL thank you very much.... if Casey gets convicted on the check cashing fraud and is sent to prison will her visits be recorded?

[Imperfect4]

The ones that bother me in that group are the pics where her mama dearest has her great big horseface smile on, and caylee looks so serious, with circles under her eyes.

she seemed like an alert little girl. why would she be so out of sync with the general atmosphere in so many photos taken at different times?

clearly, something was wrong in that house.
and it affected caylee but not her sociopath mother.

:mellow:

I only recall a couple photos where she looked genuinely happy and carefree.

I think Caylee was the only sensitive, empathetic one in that house, and if she looked that serious at two, I can only imagine what the drain on her would've looked like years down the line.

[bchand]

Please! Surely you don't expect celebrities of their caliber to do menial labor? There are interviews to arrange and money to be collected, a dead Granddaughter to be exploited. They don't have time for the little things!:cursing:

How true. It's a wonder we haven't seen ads for "volunteer gardeners."

It's a prestigious job ya know since it's for the Anthonys.

[desmom]

Yeah, Tone said this happened at his apartment and he was there and saw it happen. Don't know about you all but he's one of the (very) few I trust in this whole cast of characters. Tone couldn't care less about Casey-- he was planning to move back to NY, right? It wasn't like he was going to rearrange his life to be with Casey and doesn't have a need to protect her. Personally I think he's proven himself to me and I do trust what he says.

Did she have two different injuries?

Page 5 http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ricardo-morales-7-25.pdf

LE: Okay. Uhh, regarding the photograph of the child with the bruise underneath the eye, you said that occurred around January 23rd this year?

Ricardo Morales: Yes. I was, I was there when she actually hit the table that bruised her eye.

LE: You witnessed that?

Ricardo: Yes.

Why wouldn't Tone return to NY after graduation? Don't most college students move home once they have their diploma while they look for a job?

How serious could their relationship have been? Two months after they started dating, she was arrested and everything he thought he knew about her turned out to be nothing more than a sack full of lies.

jmo

[Sun]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

Good! It might be good to have on Casey's "record" that she is a convicted thief. LOL

[summer]

I only recall a couple photos where she looked genuinely happy and carefree.

I think Caylee was the only sensitive, empathetic one in that house, and if she looked that serious at two, I can only imagine what the drain on her would've looked like years down the line.

ITA she looked incredibly jaded to me. Seen it all, been there/done that. Tragic for one so small.

[crimeq]

Would that be sweet or what? If she gets convicted on that, she won't be in jail anymore - she'll be in prison and brought back to jail for the murder trial. It would also allow that information in at her murder trial - HOW she treats her friends and family.

LOL, I just posted a question about this. Running behind ....

I would love for her to be moved to prison. Doubtless SA thinks she has it "too good" in jail, too. Let her get a taste of what the rest of her life will be like.

It looks like SA may be ready to start setting 'em up and knocking 'em down, re: Casey Anthony. :thumbup:

[Imperfect4]

Yeah, Tone said this happened at his apartment and he was there and saw it happen. Don't know about you all but he's one of the (very) few I trust in this whole cast of characters. Tone couldn't care less about Casey-- he was planning to move back to NY, right? It wasn't like he was going to rearrange his life to be with Casey and doesn't have a need to protect her. Personally I think he's proven himself to me and I do trust what he says.

I couldn't remember whether it was Ricardo or Tony who talked about the table accident. Makes sense it was Tony, since that photo was taken at his place.

[summer]

How true. It's a wonder we haven't seen ads for "volunteer gardeners."

It's a prestigious job ya know since it's for the Anthonys.

Yah, no pay but a very glamorous job. You get to rub elbows with the glitterati.

[Sandy001]

If she's convicted on check fraud, which she will be -- will she be returned to the jail to await her murder trial, or will she be sent to prison at that time?
I can only speak for the state I live in, but sentences of a year or less can be served in County Jail. Anything over that means prison. She would be brought back to jail for the trial, however. I wonder if they will give her secured housing on the fruad charges if she is convicted (and someone writing her name on the signature line of someone else's check is screaming guilt. I don't think she will walk away from them. Particularly if the state can prove she used her mom's penny's card and charged a lot on it. As far as the money she stole from Amy, that is pretty cut and dried. I want to hear Baez spin that one. He really DOES believe people are stupid, doesn't he? He sure appeals to that trait anyway.

[summer]

LOL, I just posted a question about this. Running behind ....

I would love for her to be moved to prison. Doubtless SA thinks she has it "too good" in jail, too. Let her get a taste of what the rest of her life will be like.

It looks like SA may be ready to start setting 'em up and knocking 'em down, re: Casey Anthony. :thumbup:

Even if she's still sequestered it'll probably be a lot worse than where she is now. Maybe the commissary doesn't have pork rinds for sale.

[Imperfect4]

I :wub: you.

I don't think that's her. Too slim.

JMO

ITA. That girl is long waisted, or looks to be from the photo. Casey isn't.

[Sandy001]

Good! It might be good to have on Casey's "record" that she is a convicted thier. LOL Prior records DO INDEED influence the length of sentences. INCLUDING juvie records.

[summer]

I thought so too. Yet, the rest of the video shows a relaxed, happy, and alert child.

as I recall that was an obscenely long visit for a child. I think they kept her there six hours or more. Too long. Nothing was ever really about Caylee or her little girl needs. So she probably went through lots of moods...

[Rapunzel]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html



I would love to see the fraud charge case go before the murder case because if convicted she could go to a real prison instead of the dorm she is in now...No air conditioning...would love to see her sweat this one out and maybe give her a glimpse of what the rest of her life would be like!!!!:cursing::cursing:

[SandyO]

I think where I am, they can only levy penalties and place a lien on your house. I don't think I can be trespassed.

But you sure would be getting some nasty letters and perhaps haughty visits from them, wouldn't you, Lavenia?

[neid_77]

there is alot of motions set before the court now phone records know these 2 more from biazzz when are they all going to be taken care of? do we have to wait another 2 months for the defense? funny how they can run their mouths on national television but haft to wait forever to show up in court and argue a motion.....wonder if they will have enough seats the next time they are in court for the defense?

[Imperfect4]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

From the link:

Last fall, Anthony's defense asked that the check fraud trial be delayed so they could focus on the murder charges against Anthony, but in a motion filed on Friday, the prosecution asked that the trial be set for a date within the next 60 days.

I guess the state figured since the defense doesn't appear to be focusing on anything other than distractions and media appearances, they might as well get something done.

I like how the state subtly turns up the heat from time to time. :biggrin:

[crimeq]

Prior records DO INDEED influence the length of sentences. INCLUDING juvie records.

And don't juvie records get unsealed if there is an adult criminal offense?

[Sandy001]

Even if she's still sequestered it'll probably be a lot worse than where she is now. Maybe the commissary doesn't have pork rinds for sale.
Crom what I have heard, prisons (because they are state-funded, not county-funded) have BIGGER commissaries and better food. Of course, I live in a rather poor county, maybe in a richer county, it is different. Wait, I know it is. In our county, prisoners get balogna, turkey, or ham on bread (period) for lunch. Mayo, mustard, etc. have to be pururchased from the commisssary. Another, wealthier county provides mayo on their sandwiches.

[sunstar]

Yep and no need for any delays. Even Baez can handle these charges while the "A" teams continues to work on her murder charges.
Exactly! The fraud charges trial should be simple enough for him considering the VIDEOTAPE evidence will convict her in a second!!:laugh: MOO

[AnniePie]

as I recall that was an obscenely long visit for a child. I think they kept her there six hours or more. Too long. Nothing was ever really about Caylee or her little girl needs. So she probably went through lots of moods...

I hadn't heard that before, summer. You're right... just an other instance of their being insensitive to a sweet little one.

[Lavinia]

as I recall that was an obscenely long visit for a child. I think they kept her there six hours or more. Too long. Nothing was ever really about Caylee or her little girl needs. So she probably went through lots of moods...

SIX HOURS? They had her at the assisted living facility for 6 hours?!?! :cursing:

[Sandy001]

And don't juvie records get unsealed if there is an adult criminal offense? I don't know if they are actually "unsealed." Unsealed only jmeans they are not available to the public or for job searches. They are ALWAYS available to the courts and (I think) law enforcement.

[AnnieBell]

Uniforms? lol

After just a brief review of the tax return for KFN there seems to be enough evidence to warrant the IRS to take a good look at KFN. I tried to discern who filled out this tax form. That signature looked mighty funny to me.:wink:

[True2Blues]

How true. It's a wonder we haven't seen ads for "volunteer gardeners."

It's a prestigious job ya know since it's for the Anthonys.

I don't know. It might be a bad idea for the A's to encourage people to be within arms reach with shovels or rakes, or any kind of swingable yard implement.

I know I'd get a twitch if I saw them walking by.

[CelticDawn]

On her face, IIRC. Below her eye? Like right where that mark is? I think the story is she ran into a table.

as much as I think casey was a horrible parent and as little as I think of casey as a human being (not that it is my place to judge) I don't think that bruise on Caylee was anything.....My children get bumps and bruises of all kinds and Lord KNOWS they are not physically abused.

[Sun]

I can only speak for the state I live in, but sentences of a year or less can be served in County Jail. Anything over that means prison. She would be brought back to jail for the trial, however. I wonder if they will give her secured housing on the fruad charges if she is convicted (and someone writing her name on the signature line of someone else's check is screaming guilt. I don't think she will walk away from them. Particularly if the state can prove she used her mom's penny's card and charged a lot on it. As far as the money she stole from Amy, that is pretty cut and dried. I want to hear Baez spin that one. He really DOES believe people are stupid, doesn't he? He sure appeals to that trait anyway.

I can see Baez whining are how UNFAIR this would be to Casey... to make her defend herself on the check charges. Baez will say that Casey "can't defend" herself on these charges while the murder one charge is hanging over her. blah, blah, blah, umm, ah, ummm ah, would prevent his client from getting a fair trial, blah um, blah, um jury pool.

[Imperfect4]

Would that be sweet or what? If she gets convicted on that, she won't be in jail anymore - she'll be in prison and brought back to jail for the murder trial. It would also allow that information in at her murder trial - HOW she treats her friends and family.

The state appears to be forcing things forward, as in, a decision on that stupid 12/11 video distraction ... and now this.

I totally dig it. :thumbup:

Let's hope the defense reacts to the fire beneath their arses and gets this show on the road, fgs.

[Lavinia]

But you sure would be getting some nasty letters and perhaps haughty visits from them, wouldn't you, Lavenia?

I would imagine Sandy! No one here is brave enough to find out, lol. There are only a couple of dozen homes in my HOA so you're not real anonymous, lol. Your name would be mud here!

[cassidy]

KFN 2007 Tax Return (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5848193/Kid-Finder)

Yeah, I got connections. :sneaky:

You do have connections! And they do know how to play the game. Put out more than you bring in. Simple.

[crimeq]

I don't know if they are actually "unsealed." Unsealed only jmeans they are not available to the public or for job searches. They are ALWAYS available to the courts and (I think) law enforcement.

Thanks -- makes sense.

[summer]

I hadn't heard that before, summer. You're right... just an other instance of their being insensitive to a sweet little one.

That stuck in my mind after reading it IIRC when the case first broke. If true, it's way too long. I remember going to nursing homes with my parents for short visits only. The longer ones they did themselves. It's a dreary environment for a child.

[Lapis]

there is alot of motions set before the court now phone records know these 2 more from biazzz when are they all going to be taken care of? do we have to wait another 2 months for the defense? funny how they can run their mouths on national television but haft to wait forever to show up in court and argue a motion.....wonder if they will have enough seats the next time they are in court for the defense?

With all due respect the court sets the motion schedule with some imput from the parties. Believe it or not there are other matters on the court calendar. JMO

[CRRJJ]

Well, I guess when you travel, ride in limos, make up, bright lights, you just don't have time for the things you use to do..lol

yes, yes, that is the life of a self-made celebrity. :glare: :ohmy:

[summer]

The state appears to be forcing things forward, as in, a decision on that stupid 12/11 video distraction ... and now this.

I totally dig it. :thumbup:

Let's hope the defense reacts to the fire beneath their arses and gets this show on the road, fgs.

I dig it!

Bet the state succeeds with this. I don't think they'd bring this motion unless they felt pretty confident.

Bring. it. on.

[Lavinia]

as much as I think casey was a horrible parent and as little as I think of casey as a human being (not that it is my place to judge) I don't think that bruise on Caylee was anything.....My children get bumps and bruises of all kinds and Lord KNOWS they are not physically abused.

No I don't think it was anything either, I'm just trying to determine if there really was a hairdresser. Since we do know there was a bruise on her face, I'm wondering about the hairdresser. I would LOVE for there to be one so Cindy can see how much Casey lied when she so adamantly proclaimed there wasn't one.

[Unleashed]

Mornin' all!

Yes, that was what I thought when I heard it as well, ish. The woman doth protest too much. :mad:

Hi, AnniePie. :seeya:

You're late today!
Still recovering from the Guess Who, or is this your week to soar with The Eagles?

JMO

[Cynthia]

as much as I think casey was a horrible parent and as little as I think of casey as a human being (not that it is my place to judge) I don't think that bruise on Caylee was anything.....My children get bumps and bruises of all kinds and Lord KNOWS they are not physically abused.

I don't either Celtic. When my daughter was Caylee's age she had her hands in her coat pocket and feel into a table face first. She didn't have time to remove her hands to brace her fall. It resulted in a nasty black eye.

[ish]

LOL thank you very much.... if Casey gets convicted on the check cashing fraud and is sent to prison will her visits be recorded?

you think she'll have visitors? I bet Baez asks to delay the trial on these charges, same as the ZFG civil trial. No way does he want her to testify, he can't take a chance on getting anything on record that will be different from what he wants out there for the murder trial. If it goes forward I would suspect a "no contest" plea.

[True2Blues]

I can see Baez whining are how UNFAIR this would be to Casey... to make her defend herself on the check charges. Baez will say that Casey "can't defend" herself on these charges while the murder one charge is hanging over her. blah, blah, blah, umm, ah, ummm ah, would prevent his client from getting a fair trial, blah um, blah, um jury pool.

Too bad. These charges were filed first, so there's no reason she can't take of them first. She didn't have to steal checks and commit fraud. Her choice, now it's time to deal.:biggrin:

Now, Baez may have trouble dealing. I have trouble imagining him dealing with anything any all.

[AnnieBell]

If she's convicted on check fraud, which she will be -- will she be returned to the jail to await her murder trial, or will she be sent to prison at that time?

Probably a smart move on the prosecutions side. When she's convicted of the check fraud the least little bitty chance someone might post bail for her is gone.:biggrin: The question would be whether she would continue having SP. If you do the crime gotta be prepared to do the time.

[Lavinia]

I don't know. It might be a bad idea for the A's to encourage people to be within arms reach with shovels or rakes, or any kind of swingable yard implement.

I know I'd get a twitch if I saw them walking by.

:laugh: I watched that video the other day with Cindy hammering in the signs and I truly flinched when she got close to anyone, swinging that thing around yelling about the maggots, parasites and (?). Wild woman.

[Sun]

From the link:



I guess the state figured since the defense doesn't appear to be focusing on anything other than distractions and media appearances, they might as well get something done.

I like how the state subtly turns up the heat from time to time. :biggrin:

chuckles... that thought crossed my mind too! The State wants to give something for Baez to focus on. I also wonder if there might be a statute of limitations.... we need Lapis or Kat!

[Sandy001]

I can see Baez whining are how UNFAIR this would be to Casey... to make her defend herself on the check charges. Baez will say that Casey "can't defend" herself on these charges while the murder one charge is hanging over her. blah, blah, blah, umm, ah, ummm ah, would prevent his client from getting a fair trial, blah um, blah, um jury pool.
I will be selling barf bags for this performance. No mark up.....lol

[SandyO]

I would imagine Sandy! No one here is brave enough to find out, lol. There are only a couple of dozen homes in my HOA so you're not real anonymous, lol. Your name would be mud here!

My son painted a small boundary wall around a flower bed in his front yard in a darker gray than his HOA approves of, and he heard about it (and repainted it) immediately. They would never tolerate it if his yard looked like the Anthony's does now. Maybe the HOA just doesn't want to deal with the Anthonys anymore.

[summer]

SIX HOURS? They had her at the assisted living facility for 6 hours?!?! :cursing:

I wish I could remember where I read that. Darn. I believe it's true but I can't even begin to find a link.

[bchand]

With all due respect the court sets the motion schedule with some imput from the parties. Believe it or not there are other matters on the court calendar. JMO

With all due respect, that's correct but wasn't it 2 defense attorneys who stated they are not available for several months?

[Imperfect4]

there is alot of motions set before the court now phone records know these 2 more from biazzz when are they all going to be taken care of? do we have to wait another 2 months for the defense? funny how they can run their mouths on national television but haft to wait forever to show up in court and argue a motion.....wonder if they will have enough seats the next time they are in court for the defense?

At the rate Team Casey is growing (literally and figuratively), they'll need to super size the seats they do have. Gonna run out of room in no time at that table.

[neid_77]

With all due respect the court sets the motion schedule with some imput from the parties. Believe it or not there are other matters on the court calendar. JMO

sorry:sad:

[Imperfect4]

I don't know. It might be a bad idea for the A's to encourage people to be within arms reach with shovels or rakes, or any kind of swingable yard implement.

I know I'd get a twitch if I saw them walking by.

My bolding ... :lol:

[Lavinia]

I wish I could remember where I read that. Darn. I believe it's true but I can't even begin to find a link.

No link necessary, but that is outrageous! I would think that would be hard on Cindy's father, too. Six hours is a long time for a child or an elder/infirm to entertain. Wow. No wonder that baby looked tired all the time, IMO.

[Imperfect4]

as much as I think casey was a horrible parent and as little as I think of casey as a human being (not that it is my place to judge) I don't think that bruise on Caylee was anything.....My children get bumps and bruises of all kinds and Lord KNOWS they are not physically abused.

I agree about that particular mark -- looked like it could've happened on the edge of a table.

In general, though, the conversation about the hair dresser in the jail video (between Cindy and Casey) set my hinky meter to humming.

[ish]

But you sure would be getting some nasty letters and perhaps haughty visits from them, wouldn't you, Lavenia?

check the front door, that's where they leave the registered letter notices and you know George and Cindy don't use the front door so they wouldn't see them.:rolleyes: and I wouldn't knock on the Anthony's front door, i'd be skeered Cindy would answer, baseball bat in hand!!:scared:

[Sandy001]

I don't either Celtic. When my daughter was Caylee's age she had her hands in her coat pocket and feel into a table face first. She didn't have time to remove her hands to brace her fall. It resulted in a nasty black eye.My eldest walked into the pointed edge of a table when he was beginning to walk and I thought for sure someone would turn us in for that one.

[cassidy]

My son painted a small boundary wall around a flower bed in his front yard in a darker gray than his HOA approves of, and he heard about it (and repainted it) immediately. They would never tolerate it if his yard looked like the Anthony's does now. Maybe the HOA just doesn't want to deal with the Anthonys anymore.

IIRC the Anthony's didn't have much respect for their HOA. They pretty much ignored them.

[Lavinia]

My son painted a small boundary wall around a flower bed in his front yard in a darker gray than his HOA approves of, and he heard about it (and repainted it) immediately. They would never tolerate it if his yard looked like the Anthony's does now. Maybe the HOA just doesn't want to deal with the Anthonys anymore.

Like someone else already alluded to, maybe the yard is supposed to mirror their depression and make people feel sorry for them. I wonder if the HOA buys into that?

ETA: We can have a sign of ANY type out in our yard, either. (Except a for sale by *realtor* sign) "No trespass" would not EVEN cut it.

[AnniePie]

Hi, AnniePie. :seeya:

You're late today!
Still recovering from the Guess Who, or is this your week to soar with The Eagles?

JMO

Actually, it was quite early for me.

I love The Eagles, but there is one in disguise who is irking me at present. And "she" knows who "she" is.

Anyway... I think I've finally got caught up on all the news from over the weekend. Do you think G and C will lie low for awhile? BC seems to be out there on their behalf. He bugs me bigtime! :ohmy:

[Ellie]

Did she have two different injuries?

Page 5 http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ricardo-morales-7-25.pdf

LE: Okay. Uhh, regarding the photograph of the child with the bruise underneath the eye, you said that occurred around January 23rd this year?

Ricardo Morales: Yes. I was, I was there when she actually hit the table that bruised her eye.

LE: You witnessed that?

Ricardo: Yes.

Why wouldn't Tone return to NY after graduation? Don't most college students move home once they have their diploma while they look for a job?

How serious could their relationship have been? Two months after they started dating, she was arrested and everything he thought he knew about her turned out to be nothing more than a sack full of lies.

jmo


Ok you got me! I guess I thought it was Tone, not Ricardo, but you're right--- this is the interview, I just got the boyfriend wrong (hard to keep 'em all straight!).

I think Casey (with the Casey Lazarro, Mrs. Casey Lazarro, etc. stuff) was thinking--hoping--their relationship was a lot more serious than Tone thought it was. that's all I'm saying.

[Sandy001]

With all due respect, that's correct but wasn't it 2 defense attorneys who stated they are not available for several months?
I would have to wonder also WHY Lyons would even need to be involved in the check charges - ditto for LKB - they want the BIG STUFF to pad their reputations. moo

[Lavinia]

I agree about that particular mark -- looked like it could've happened on the edge of a table.

In general, though, the conversation about the hair dresser in the jail video (between Cindy and Casey) set my hinky meter to humming.

Yup, it's the combo that has my head humming.

[AnniePie]

:laugh: I watched that video the other day with Cindy hammering in the signs and I truly flinched when she got close to anyone, swinging that thing around yelling about the maggots, parasites and (?). Wild woman.

Fer sher. I wouldn't have got within a 15 foot radius of her with that in her hand. I'm surprised no one was hurt.

[Sun]

At the rate Team Casey is growing (literally and figuratively), they'll need to super size the seats they do have. Gonna run out of room in no time at that table.

chuckles.... they already did run out of room. LKB had to set her chair off the far end of the table. Macaluso had to sit in the seats the next row back from those at the table, as did Baez's sidekick. And, I would hazard a guess that Baez will be in a different seat the next time that Lyon is in the courtoom. This I am waiting to see.

[True2Blues]

No link necessary, but that is outrageous! I would think that would be hard on Cindy's father, too. Six hours is a long time for a child or an elder/infirm to entertain. Wow. No wonder that baby looked tired all the time, IMO.

Were they at the care center all that time? I don't know that it was that particular time, but I read that on some visits, Cindy and whoever was with her, would go to her Mom's house and have lunch and then go visit her Dad for a while. I can't imagine what they would do for six hours at the center.

[Sandy001]

IIRC the Anthony's didn't have much respect for their HOA. They pretty much ignored them.Maybe the neighbors will call the HOA, or some good citizen who thinks this is dragging the value of the neighborhood down.

[AnniePie]

At the rate Team Casey is growing (literally and figuratively), they'll need to super size the seats they do have. Gonna run out of room in no time at that table.

That reminds me... it's time to mail another 40 pound box of pork rinds to the OC. (I just want to do my part in helping her catch up to LKB and AL. :laugh:)

[Sun]

With all due respect, that's correct but wasn't it 2 defense attorneys who stated they are not available for several months?

LKB said that she and Lyon might be available June 22, 23, or 25, IIRC.

[Lavinia]

Fer sher. I wouldn't have got within a 15 foot radius of her with that in her hand. I'm surprised no one was hurt.

It's funny, because I was more scared the other day when I saw it than I was when it happened. She was in a friggin' FRENZY on that video. :scared:

[AnnieBell]

At the rate Team Casey is growing (literally and figuratively), they'll need to super size the seats they do have. Gonna run out of room in no time at that table.

Or hock more photos, videos, personal effects:wink:

[Imperfect4]

Too bad. These charges were filed first, so there's no reason she can't take of them first. She didn't have to steal checks and commit fraud. Her choice, now it's time to deal.:biggrin:

Now, Baez may have trouble dealing. I have trouble imagining him dealing with anything any all.

I see a hearing in our future, in which Baez et al attempt to explain why they can't defend against the fraud charges what with all the work they're doing on the criminal case. I would hope they would be questioned about just what work they HAVE done in the last year to prepare for the criminal trial.

Near as I can tell, their "work" has included deposing witnesses at the jail about their interaction with the OC (as if that has anything to do with the murder charge), and making multiple media appearances to reverse-taint the jury pool.

Wonder if the judge will consider that "work?" :glare:

[Lapis]

chuckles... that thought crossed my mind too! The State wants to give something for Baez to focus on. I also wonder if there might be a statute of limitations.... we need Lapis or Kat!

The statute of limitations only restricts the amount of time in which the state can bring charges. As charges are already brought the statute is not an issue. A right to a speedy trial is one that the defendant has not the state. If Casey waives her right then there is nothing the state can do.

I can see the court ordering these charges take a back seat to the murder charges. If I were her attorney I would be considering requesting the matters be consolidated and heard at the same time, if the court will not adjourn them until after the murder trial.

I would also be considering pleading guilty to the charges. If she has to sit in jail pending the murder charges, the time should count for something.

JMO

[True2Blues]

check the front door, that's where they leave the registered letter notices and you know George and Cindy don't use the front door so they wouldn't see them.:rolleyes: and I wouldn't knock on the Anthony's front door, i'd be skeered Cindy would answer, baseball bat in hand!!:scared:

She's all mouth. She wouldn't take a swing at anyone, because she doesn't want to end up in a cell next to Casey. No news camera interviews in jail!

[Imperfect4]

:laugh: I watched that video the other day with Cindy hammering in the signs and I truly flinched when she got close to anyone, swinging that thing around yelling about the maggots, parasites and (?). Wild woman.

leeches, baby. leeches. :glare:

[Lavinia]

Were they at the care center all that time? I don't know that it was that particular time, but I read that on some visits, Cindy and whoever was with her, would go to her Mom's house and have lunch and then go visit her Dad for a while. I can't imagine what they would do for six hours at the center.

I hope that's the explanation T2B! That would make sense. I can't imagine the ALC would allow them to be up there that long. That's too tough on EVERYONE.

[AnniePie]

IIRC the Anthony's didn't have much respect for their HOA. They pretty much ignored them.

That's pretty much par for the course for this family. No respect for anyone.

[sydney]

IIRC the Anthony's didn't have much respect for their HOA. They pretty much ignored them.

how DARE the HOA intrude on their grief and try to get them to do something so inconsequential while they are in mourning and keeping caylee's memory alive! (where is that sarcasm icon when you need it?)

[Lapis]

With all due respect, that's correct but wasn't it 2 defense attorneys who stated they are not available for several months?

Attorneys have other cases too. If the court does not have a problem neither should we. JMO

[Lavinia]

leeches, baby. leeches. :glare:

Laws! My brain has truly shorted out! (I need a LEECH! QUICK!)

[summer]

Were they at the care center all that time? I don't know that it was that particular time, but I read that on some visits, Cindy and whoever was with her, would go to her Mom's house and have lunch and then go visit her Dad for a while. I can't imagine what they would do for six hours at the center.

I sorta wish I hadn't mentioned it now because it is a recollection only. But it stuck with me because I had a fierce emotional reaction. I recall it was at the nursing home for too long a period of time. Sorry folks, that's all I got.

[Roux]

From the link:



I guess the state figured since the defense doesn't appear to be focusing on anything other than distractions and media appearances, they might as well get something done.

I like how the state subtly turns up the heat from time to time. :biggrin:

This was the best news I've heard in a long time. Can't wait to see how Baez, Lyons, et al will spin it; probably say the state is manipulating them to put the pressure on. And maybe BC will file a motion to stop the trial since it would be so difficult for G&C.:cursing:

[AMS]

Like someone else already alluded to, maybe the yard is supposed to mirror their depression and make people feel sorry for them. I wonder if the HOA buys into that?

ETA: We can have a sign of ANY type out in our yard, either. (Except a for sale by *realtor* sign) "No trespass" would not EVEN cut it.

I don't think parking the car on the lawn would be acceptable to the HOA rules either.

Poor, poor Ant's......NOT!

imo

[CRRJJ]

You and me both! I think she looked absolutely terrified.

Oh, my gosh!!! I had never heard anyone say that before but I thought right away, when I saw the first picture, she looked scared, like she was being forced to sit there not because she wanted to be. Thanks for bringing this out.

[Lavinia]

That reminds me... it's time to mail another 40 pound box of pork rinds to the OC. (I just want to do my part in helping her catch up to LKB and AL. :laugh:)

:laugh: You KNOW that her getting heavy is more of a sentence for her than anything the jail could do to her. If she can't be "almost as small as Caylee" or "gorgeous", she's SOL.

[Imperfect4]

LKB said that she and Lyon might be available June 22, 23, or 25, IIRC.

Anyone think the fraud charge ramp up is timed to coincide with the defense's predictable spin on release of the autopsy report? :biggrin:

[True2Blues]

Like someone else already alluded to, maybe the yard is supposed to mirror their depression and make people feel sorry for them. I wonder if the HOA buys into that?

ETA: We can have a sign of ANY type out in our yard, either. (Except a for sale by *realtor* sign) "No trespass" would not EVEN cut it.

Their 'depression' is a private matter. There's no reason the entire neighborhood has to suffer for it. If they have a strict HOA and they agreed to abide by the rules, then they should be made to comply. They can't be the only people in the neighborhood who have ever lost someone.

(I who say this won't move into a neighborhood with a strict HOA because I think they're ridiculous. None the less, if you accept it, you should abide by it. :laugh:)

[ish]

No I don't think it was anything either, I'm just trying to determine if there really was a hairdresser. Since we do know there was a bruise on her face, I'm wondering about the hairdresser. I would LOVE for there to be one so Cindy can see how much Casey lied when she so adamantly proclaimed there wasn't one.

I think it was probably not an actual hairdresser who made that statement but perhaps someone who works in a salon, maybe a manicurist and Cindy got it wrong. Of course, Casey would totally over react to that inaccuracy and use it to "prove" how people are lying about her.

[Rapunzel]

I will be selling barf bags for this performance. No mark up.....lol


Do you offer free shipping???

[AnnieBell]

chuckles.... they already did run out of room. LKB had to set her chair off the far end of the table. Macaluso had to sit in the seats the next row back from those at the table, as did Baez's sidekick. And, I would hazard a guess that Baez will be in a different seat the next time that Lyon is in the courtoom. This I am waiting to see.

I noticed that also. Isn't the seat JB currently resides in suppose to be reserved for the lead counsel? Hearing Lyon state she wasn't going to be lead counsel just a member of the great team made me want to:drool: so there aren't any legal grounds to move the boyfriend to KC's other side?

[summer]

I think it was probably not an actual hairdresser who made that statement but perhaps someone who works in a salon, maybe a manicurist and Cindy got it wrong. Of course, Casey would totally over react to that inaccuracy and use it to "prove" how people are lying about her.

Yes yes yes. Such a transparent tactic.

[Cynthia]

I noticed that also. Isn't the seat JB currently resides in suppose to be reserved for the lead counsel? Hearing Lyon state she wasn't going to be lead counsel just a member of the great team made me want to:drool: so there aren't any legal grounds to move the boyfriend to KC's other side?

They need bleachers......

[onlykaty]

Now that's just stupid! She had no system to check for drugs, just bones and hair, which showed no long term drugs. One lethal dose would not show up. And no duct tape around the mouth? Does he think Dr. G. was lying? :cursing:


Whatever Baden, body in woods doubled bagged since almost the time C. left home with Kaylee, duct tape over lapped around skull, 31 days, partying, getting tattoo about her beautiful life. Thats quite damning for any reasonably intelligent jury to come to the "GUILTY" verdict..That rabbit coming out of the denfense's hat better be a real big white one..jmo

[summer]

It so cute - I don't have children and I figured everyone would jump to tell me I was wrong. A whole day at the nursing home, no problem! Kids adjust. She had her books and toys, etc. etc. Are you nuts summer?

Again I apologize for bringing up something so (i realize now lol) incendiary without having the backup. :wub:

[Lavinia]

I think it was probably not an actual hairdresser who made that statement but perhaps someone who works in a salon, maybe a manicurist and Cindy got it wrong. Of course, Casey would totally over react to that inaccuracy and use it to "prove" how people are lying about her.

That's too true. That is one thing I learned in SPADES with inmates; they will tell you they aren't "guilty of what the prosecutor said". Of course then they go on and say something like, "The man said I robbed that bank with a black ski mask on and he lied, Ms. Lavinia, he LIED! It was a navy blue ski mask!" And they MEAN it! They are incredulous that they got convicted with such bad info, lol. I haven't met one yet that didn't have a "unique" way of thinking.

[Imperfect4]

This was the best news I've heard in a long time. Can't wait to see how Baez, Lyons, et al will spin it; probably say the state is manipulating them to put the pressure on. And maybe BC will file a motion to stop the trial since it would be so difficult for G&C.:cursing:

I'd really like Judge Strickland to nail this bunch to wall with regard to what, exactly, they've been doing for a year -- Baez in particular. He thinks he's playing some damn game. At a minimum, I'd like to see a status check to on what "progress" Jose has made over these many months. That ought to take all of about a hot minute.

[True2Blues]

:laugh: You KNOW that her getting heavy is more of a sentence for her than anything the jail could do to her. If she can't be "almost as small as Caylee" or "gorgeous", she's SOL.

Then she's SOL no matter what. She isn't tiny and she isn't gorgeous.

[Sandy001]

It's funny, because I was more scared the other day when I saw it than I was when it happened. She was in a friggin' FRENZY on that video. :scared:


The entire family is so into their DRAMA. They turn EVERYTHING into a drama. jmo

[Rapunzel]

I wonder if the State wants the fraud charge trial before the murder trial for exactly that reason...they want her to know what her life is going to be like in hopes maybe she will plea.

She could go to prison...she would still be in protective custody but not as pleasant as her now dorm room.

[Imperfect4]

It so cute - I don't have children and I figured everyone would jump to tell me I was wrong. A whole day at the nursing home, no problem! Kids adjust. She had her books and toys, etc. etc. Are you nuts summer?

Again I apologize for bringing up something so (i realize now lol) incendiary without having the backup. :wub:

30 lashes with a wet noodle, missy!

:laugh:

[Katprint]

I would also be considering pleading guilty to the charges. If she has to sit in jail pending the murder charges, the time should count for something.
<respectfully snipped>

I'm sure OJ feels like the 16 months he spent in the Los Angeles County Jail before/during the murder case ought to be applied towards his prison sentence for the kidnapping/burglary case in Las Vegas. I never heard his attorneys make this argument, though, when they were arguing for probation or the lower term instead of the mid or upper term.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Lavinia]

Then she's SOL no matter what. She isn't tiny and she isn't gorgeous.

She needs to get used to hearing she's SOL. (Inmates hear that a lot in the pen, lol. They go to the CO's with all kinds of grievances and/or excuses, and 99 times out of 100, the answer is, "Inmate, you're just SOL, aren't you?" :laugh:)

[Imperfect4]

That's too true. That is one thing I learned in SPADES with inmates; they will tell you they aren't "guilty of what the prosecutor said". Of course then they go on and say something like, "The man said I robbed that bank with a black ski mask on and he lied, Ms. Lavinia, he LIED! It was a navy blue ski mask!" And they MEAN it! They are incredulous that they got convicted with such bad info, lol. I haven't met one yet that didn't have a "unique" way of thinking.

That type of carp is one of my pet peeves in life. I have been known to go up one side and down the other of someone who tries Dancing With the Words like that. God! :cursing:

[Lavinia]

The entire family is so into their DRAMA. They turn EVERYTHING into a drama. jmo

I would love to hear more about the A's earlier lives. I wonder about the drama quotient all through the years.

[Roux]

I'd really like Judge Strickland to nail this bunch to wall with regard to what, exactly, they've been doing for a year -- Baez in particular. He thinks he's playing some damn game. At a minimum, I'd like to see a status check to on what "progress" Jose has made over these many months. That ought to take all of about a hot minute.

It was infuriating and disgraceful that it took so long -- what was it, 6 years -- for Spector's trial to start. There should be some limit on how long a defendant can delay a trial. The right to a fair trial should not include manipulation and putting off as long as you can.

[Imperfect4]

I would love to hear more about the A's earlier lives. I wonder about the drama quotient all through the years.

Soap opera-worthy, I'm sure.

The Young and the Ridiculous, perhaps. :rolleyes:

[ish]

Were they at the care center all that time? I don't know that it was that particular time, but I read that on some visits, Cindy and whoever was with her, would go to her Mom's house and have lunch and then go visit her Dad for a while. I can't imagine what they would do for six hours at the center.

I think the whole day was about 6 or 7 hours. I thought they left TonE's apt late morning and Casey went home with Caylee, Cindy then took Caylee to Mt Dora and they were back early evening cause Cindy said they went in the pool. (she and Caylee, Casey said it was too cold)

[Lavinia]

That type of carp is one of my pet peeves in life. I have been known to go up one side and down the other of someone who tries Dancing With the Words like that. God! :cursing:

That's right IMP! And the INDIGNATION! :laugh: OMG, they are SO indignant that they got wrongly imprisoned on that info! They don't think right, lol.

[Imperfect4]

It was infuriating and disgraceful that it took so long -- what was it, 6 years -- for Spector's trial to start. There should be some limit on how long a defendant can delay a trial. The right to a fair trial should not include manipulation and putting off as long as you can.

I've got my fingers crossed Florida doesn't allow the same level of dinking around California seems to tolerate.

I also hope the state's attorneys plan to keep the heat under this.

[Lavinia]

Soap opera-worthy, I'm sure.

The Young and the Ridiculous, perhaps. :rolleyes:

Days of Our Lies

All My Psycho Children

General Mental Hospital

[True2Blues]

I think the whole day was about 6 or 7 hours. I thought they left TonE's apt late morning and Casey went home with Caylee, Cindy then took Caylee to Mt Dora and they were back early evening cause Cindy said they went in the pool. (she and Caylee, Casey said it was too cold)

Thanks you. That sounds like a normal time table.

[GumShoeJoe]

It may have been the PI'sjob to take the body. Could you imagine if he got caught?

Didn't he have a small shovel? I think he was supposed to bury it.

[summer]

30 lashes with a wet noodle, missy!

:laugh:

ouch! :laugh:

[imc_e]

Actually, it was quite early for me.

I love The Eagles, but there is one in disguise who is irking me at present. And "she" knows who "she" is.

Anyway... I think I've finally got caught up on all the news from over the weekend. Do you think G and C will lie low for awhile? BC seems to be out there on their behalf. He bugs me bigtime! :ohmy:

BC bugs me too, spinning Cindys lies to the public.

L

Takin it to the limit OR WHAT!

[Roux]

I would love to hear more about the A's earlier lives. I wonder about the drama quotient all through the years.

I remember one specific incident when George told LE it was typical for Cindy to argue, as she argued at the tow yard. They argued with the HS counselor too. The non-pregnancy. The hatred toward the Grunds. Every incident in life apparently was a huge drama for the A's.

[Sun]

The statute of limitations only restricts the amount of time in which the state can bring charges. As charges are already brought the statute is not an issue. A right to a speedy trial is one that the defendant has not the state. If Casey waives her right then there is nothing the state can do.

I can see the court ordering these charges take a back seat to the murder charges. If I were her attorney I would be considering requesting the matters be consolidated and heard at the same time, if the court will not adjourn them until after the murder trial.

I would also be considering pleading guilty to the charges. If she has to sit in jail pending the murder charges, the time should count for something.

JMO

Thanks so much Lapis, for sharing your knowledge. It is greatly appreciated!

[onlykaty]

I've got my fingers crossed Florida doesn't allow the same level of dinking around California seems to tolerate.

I also hope the state's attorneys plan to keep the heat under this.

One thing about it, no matter how long it takes to go to trial NG will keep the fire burning under this case. Thats why the Anthony's dislike her so much..I say go Nancy, I'll listen every night and like most of us we have a long memory..IMO, Casey will never know another day of freedom. GA and CA, will never be able to keep their foundation going and have to go back to work and "Kaylee" will rest in peace..People can come up with lots of excuses for killing spouses and others but killing a child, thank god, is something that is almost impossible to come up with an excuse for.

[CelticDawn]

I agree about that particular mark -- looked like it could've happened on the edge of a table.

In general, though, the conversation about the hair dresser in the jail video (between Cindy and Casey) set my hinky meter to humming.

Sorry....this new "work" situation has me dragging behind....but I dont think there really WAS hairdresser.....I cant put my finger on it but I think that part of the conversation meant something else...hairdresser is something totally different.

[Roux]

Didn't he have a small shovel? I think he was supposed to bury it.

I surely would like to know more details on DC's complaint filed against Baez. Will that always remain confidential or will we ever find out the exact charges and result of Bar Assn findings?

I also want to know further details about Judge S complaint filed against Baez.

[Dick Tracy]

It could be. IMO I think she suffocated in the trunk. The car is the crime scene. The back yard is where she buried her under the playhouse for a short time then moved her to the woods. This poor baby.

Does anyone know if you can use cholorform as a cleanser? To clean out the trunk?

You don't usually use chloroform as a cleaner.

I don't think she died in the trunk. I think she ended up in the trunk, on the 18th.

[BobbysGirl]

That type of carp is one of my pet peeves in life. I have been known to go up one side and down the other of someone who tries Dancing With the Words like that. God! :cursing:

HI ALL! Raising hand. Me too. Me too. Had to listen to one at 8
a.m. this morn. and on and on. Glad I have CRS.

:)

BG

[Katprint]

It was infuriating and disgraceful that it took so long -- what was it, 6 years -- for Spector's trial to start. There should be some limit on how long a defendant can delay a trial. The right to a fair trial should not include manipulation and putting off as long as you can.
It is not as outrageous when the defendant is in pretrial custody awaiting trial. A defendant in that situation has already begun serving their sentence even if they are subsequently acquitted. Some people have suggested that defendants in pretrial jail custody are motivated to delay their trials because prison conditions are worse. I disagree. I think people expect to get away with the crimes they commit - few people expect to be caught and punished for their crimes - and there are sometimes acquittals even when guilt seems clear such as in the murder cases of OJ and Phil Spector. I think most defendants in pretrial custody would like their trials to start as soon as possible because they hope to get out of custody as soon as possible.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Imperfect4]

Days of Our Lies

All My Psycho Children

General Mental Hospital

... :thumbsup: ...

[Imperfect4]

I surely would like to know more details on DC's complaint filed against Baez. Will that always remain confidential or will we ever find out the exact charges and result of Bar Assn findings?

I also want to know further details about Judge S complaint filed against Baez.

I'd settle for seeing JB disbarred. :laugh:

[imc_e]

You don't usually use chloroform as a cleaner.

I don't think she died in the trunk. I think she ended up in the trunk, on the 18th.

In my mind, this theory works best.

Casey killed Caylee in the house, hid her in the playhouse/sandbox, take your pick, then the day she backed the car into the garage and borrowed the shovel is the day she put Caylee in the trunk.

She was already dead and already duct taped and bagged.

jmo

RIP Caylee :rose:

[AnniePie]

That type of carp is one of my pet peeves in life. I have been known to go up one side and down the other of someone who tries Dancing With the Words like that. God! :cursing:

I have a 17 year old here that you might like to spar with this aft, Impf. :crying: Groan...

[*MoonRider*]

I'd really like Judge Strickland to nail this bunch to wall with regard to what, exactly, they've been doing for a year -- Baez in particular. He thinks he's playing some damn game. At a minimum, I'd like to see a status check to on what "progress" Jose has made over these many months. That ought to take all of about a hot minute.

GA. It's been 8 months since the OC was charged with murder. I don't think Jose has even deposed 8 witnesses yet. In JB's pressers he's always saying how busy he is. Deposing less than one witness a month must be exhausting. jmo

[onlykaty]

It is not as outrageous when the defendant is in pretrial custody awaiting trial. A defendant in that situation has already begun serving their sentence even if they are subsequently acquitted. Some people have suggested that defendants in pretrial jail custody are motivated to delay their trials because prison conditions are worse. I disagree. I think people expect to get away with the crimes they commit - few people expect to be caught and punished for their crimes - and there are sometimes acquittals even when guilt seems clear such as in the murder cases of OJ and Phil Spector. I think most defendants in pretrial custody would like their trials to start as soon as possible because they hope to get out of custody as soon as possible.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


ITA, katprint and Casey seems to think she will be living the good life, tanning and living happily after this trial. I think JB, is her worse nightmare, they deserve each other..jmo

[Roux]

It is not as outrageous when the defendant is in pretrial custody awaiting trial. A defendant in that situation has already begun serving their sentence even if they are subsequently acquitted. Some people have suggested that defendants in pretrial jail custody are motivated to delay their trials because prison conditions are worse. I disagree. I think people expect to get away with the crimes they commit - few people expect to be caught and punished for their crimes - and there are sometimes acquittals even when guilt seems clear such as in the murder cases of OJ and Phil Spector. I think most defendants in pretrial custody would like their trials to start as soon as possible because they hope to get out of custody as soon as possible.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I was thinking in terms of someone like Specter who is out on bail, merrily living his life. Personally, I think it is a horrible injustice for someone to be held for 2 or 3 years in jail simply because they don't have the resources to be out on bail, if bail is granted.

If Casey doesn't receive the death penalty, and doesn't receive LWOP, wouldn 't the time she's been in jail count toward time served?

[AnniePie]

Just a thought...have been thinking about the latest media tour from these Scamthony's...what do they think when even their own lawyer says he does not agree with them NOT going to see her in jail? They keep saying that they do not want to be video taped or audio taped at the jail fully aware that they could sit there and communicate through blinks, clicks and knocks, or whatever their weird little decoder ring language is...and at least have the APPEARANCE of supporting her by spending time with her in person (or as close as they can be via jail video) - but yet they have no fear or compunction about going on national tv and SAYING they support her (when we all know they don't see her) and think that this is not worse than anything that could possibly be said there? I mean they say it's because they don't want that video released to the media - but then they wh*re it up for the highest bidder at every other turn? - to promote their freakin fakeass Scamdation? To me that is FAR more scandalous than anything else they are trying to "hide" ... and why do they even HAVE legal representation if they don't heed his direct advice to them? Do they think we are all stupid? I so resent that...thoughts?

Hey ndy! For a night owl, you're up early. LOL

I so agree with all your statements/questions. They honestly have to believe that they're a few rungs higher on the IQ ladder than the rest of us.

I am insulted that they think no one is keeping track of their bold-faced LIES!

[ish]

question... in the last hearing when GA cried about the Great Grandparents' pain of hearing about the case...I wonder if he thinks the rest home plays HLN all day every day and all the residents sit and watch it and discuss it? Grasping they are....

I guess ANY ol' reason will do, no matter HOW UNreasonable...

I don't know about George's parents, but if I recall, George said Cindy's dad is in pretty bad shape as far as memory and alertness, confirmed by
Cindy's mom. Cindy's mom seems like a tough lady. My take on her is she is relieved Casey is in jail and going on trial. I think her concern is more for Cindy and the alternate universe she resides in.

[Imperfect4]

Just a thought...have been thinking about the latest media tour from these Scamthony's...what do they think when even their own lawyer says he does not agree with them NOT going to see her in jail? They keep saying that they do not want to be video taped or audio taped at the jail fully aware that they could sit there and communicate through blinks, clicks and knocks, or whatever their weird little decoder ring language is...and at least have the APPEARANCE of supporting her by spending time with her in person (or as close as they can be via jail video) - but yet they have no fear or compunction about going on national tv and SAYING they support her (when we all know they don't see her) and think that this is not worse than anything that could possibly be said there? I mean they say it's because they don't want that video released to the media - but then they wh*re it up for the highest bidder at every other turn? - to promote their freakin fakeass Scamdation? To me that is FAR more scandalous than anything else they are trying to "hide" ... and why do they even HAVE legal representation if they don't heed his direct advice to them? Do they think we are all stupid? I so resent that...thoughts?

I think the party line is that the visits will be taped, and the tapes will be released. I think in reality, the OC has said she won't see her parents, even if they show up. She doesn't need them anymore for any reason, she's angry with them, and they may be headed under the bus in any event. I think G&C are a part of Casey's past now, much like all her friends.

As far as why they have legal representation ... I think it's because they were approached by legal representation and took both NeJame and BC up on their offers. There's no way Cindy will ever heed anyone's advice for long, and George will ultimately roll over for her, so he's only "coachable" for short periods.

[Unleashed]

That's pretty much par for the course for this family. No respect for anyone.

'Ceptin' for Baez.
They will learn to respect him. :sneaky:


JMO

[AnniePie]

I don't know about George's parents, but if I recall, George said Cindy's dad is in pretty bad shape as far as memory and alertness, confirmed by
Cindy's mom. Cindy's mom seems like a tough lady. My take on her is she is relieved Casey is in jail and going on trial. I think her concern is more for Cindy and the alternate universe she resides in.

I would so love to hear Mrs. Pleasea interviewed now after all this new crap has hit the fan. If she was disgusted with Cindy last summer, I can only imagine how she feels now.

I truly sympathize with her.

[AnniePie]

'Ceptin' for Baez.
They will learn to respect him. :sneaky:


JMO

Ack! :lol: How could I forget Baez?! He is so worthy of respect. :drool:

[Katprint]

I was thinking in terms of someone like Specter who is out on bail, merrily living his life. Personally, I think it is a horrible injustice for someone to be held for 2 or 3 years in jail simply because they don't have the resources to be out on bail, if bail is granted.

If Casey doesn't receive the death penalty, and doesn't receive LWOP, wouldn 't the time she's been in jail count toward time served?
As Lapis suggested, Casey should consider pleading guilty on the forgery/fraud/theft charges so that her custody time counts towards SOMETHING in the event she is not convicted on the murder charges. It is rare for a judge to impose sentences of more than a month or two for simple nonviolent thefts. Of course, if Casey is convicted of First Degree Murder then the other charges won't really matter.

Katprint

[Lavinia]

I think the party line is that the visits will be taped, and the tapes will be released. I think in reality, the OC has said she won't see her parents, even if they show up. She doesn't need them anymore for any reason, she's angry with them, and they may be headed under the bus in any event. I think G&C are a part of Casey's past now, much like all her friends.

As far as why they have legal representation ... I think it's because they were approached by legal representation and took both NeJame and BC up on their offers. There's no way Cindy will ever heed anyone's advice for long, and George will ultimately roll over for her, so he's only "coachable" for short periods.

Boy, do I totally agree!

[AnniePie]

Hey Annie...kinda early...yes...lol...some of my comments here are from LATE last night's closed thread - so I am giving you all the REMIX now...I like seeing what the day shift thinks...keepin my sunglasses on...:thumbup:

Good plan. :smile:

Wondering how we recruit more members for the night shift. It gets to be pretty slim pickins by the time you usually get on.

[ellegna]

You don't usually use chloroform as a cleaner.

I don't think she died in the trunk. I think she ended up in the trunk, on the 18th.

I agree she didn't die in the trunk but there's a good possibility she may have died in her car seat.
I still believe Casey stormed out of the house on the 15th with a terrified Caylee in tow. Caylee would not stop crying. Casey was already livid over the fight with Cindy and Caylee crying non stop aggravated the situation more. Casey pulled in somewhere (possibly that motel we heard about) and wrapped duct tape around her head to silence her.

[Unleashed]

That's too true. That is one thing I learned in SPADES with inmates; they will tell you they aren't "guilty of what the prosecutor said". Of course then they go on and say something like, "The man said I robbed that bank with a black ski mask on and he lied, Ms. Lavinia, he LIED! It was a navy blue ski mask!" And they MEAN it! They are incredulous that they got convicted with such bad info, lol. I haven't met one yet that didn't have a "unique" way of thinking.

Or when they are found not guilty, ask if that means they get to keep the money!:laugh:

JMO

[Lavinia]

Or when they are found not guilty, ask if that means they get to keep the money!:laugh:

JMO

You know it! They have NO clue!

[ish]

Boy if the ANthony's read any of these boards, they are probably screaming at the amount of "speculating" going on!! Cindy is probably reaming poor BC a new one. "I told you what would happen if that autopsy report got released" "What kind of crappy free legal service are you giving us" "If it didn't mean I had to pay for it, I'd find a new lawyer"

I wonder if they left BC in the dust after the hearing last week? George was mighty pizzed, usually he holds the door for Brad and helps push the wheelchair, I'm thinking poor Brad was left in a crush of reporters.

[onlykaty]

Good plan. :smile:

Wondering how we recruit more members for the night shift. It gets to be pretty slim pickins by the time you usually get on.

Night shift probably has more traffic because they intermix with all posters not just each other..lol...thats OMO, as far as I know

[Imperfect4]

I have a 17 year old here that you might like to spar with this aft, Impf. :crying: Groan...

I'm out of the sparring business these days, Annie ... sorry! (I left corporate America and all the wonder that is ~managing today's workforce~ about 5 years ago. The sparring takes its toll after awhile. :thumbdown:)

[ish]

Does anyone else think that when Bozo said in court "we're not afraid of the autopsy report" that it was a strange choice of word - "afraid" I think it is because it was a classic subconscious acknowledgment or slip of the tongue because they are all indeed afraid of the report - very much so...much like when Bozo said in the last hearing that "Jesse had been investigated for his involvement" and that is why they wanted his phone records - because they know damn good and well that the police would have arrested him if they thought for one second that he was involved in this? Unless of course they arrested him on a whim...those bad bad policemen...

Wonder if their little Scamdation computer has crashed from the constant requests for the Scamthony's bears from law enforcement all over the country...hell, all over the WORLD! NOT!!!!!

Oh they were afraid of the autopsy report, they were very afraid. That's why JB got his butt over to the court after all. Originally the defense had no position on releasing it. But I think if he put in an objection on paper, Casey would have had to be in court and she didn't want to be connected to the autopsy report, so JB tried to backdoor it and Judge Strickland shot him down.

[GumShoeJoe]

LKB said that she and Lyon might be available June 22, 23, or 25, IIRC.


And I remember that and that the prosecution asked for a side bar immediately following this announcement. My guess is they objected to how long this was all going to take if they always needed to wait a month or two for out-of-towners to schedule something.

Moving forward with the check fraud matter is at least one way to keep things going.

[Dick Tracy]

In my mind, this theory works best.

Casey killed Caylee in the house, hid her in the playhouse/sandbox, take your pick, then the day she backed the car into the garage and borrowed the shovel is the day she put Caylee in the trunk.

She was already dead and already duct taped and bagged.

jmo

RIP Caylee :rose:

Good theory good looking!
However, I don't think she died in the house either. :ohmy:

[GumShoeJoe]

You don't usually use chloroform as a cleaner.

I don't think she died in the trunk. I think she ended up in the trunk, on the 18th.

I tend to agree. I keep remembering some of the early jailhouse family meetings with Casey and her parents, with Casey saying things like: I want her home and to see her smiling, laughing, etc.

Reading about the duct tape, I think Caylee threw a screaming or crying fit and this was all no more complicated than Casey angrily taping her mouth shut. So Casey wants to see her again, but she has to be smiling and laughing. Because, after all, if she had just stayed smiling and laughing, none of this would have happened in the first place, perhaps? Just some conjecture by me.

[NikkiG77058]

State files motion to proceed with check fraud charge


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19823153/detail.html

Just curious - if the state gets a trial date for the checks and Casey is found guilty, will she remain in protective custody or will she be moved to general population?

TIA!!

[GumShoeJoe]

"What does Pro Bono mean?!" :confused: "Why are you bringing U2 into this?" lol clueless...

"for the good of it" aka "for free"

[marshmallow]

I agree she didn't die in the trunk but there's a good possibility she may have died in her car seat.
I still believe Casey stormed out of the house on the 15th with a terrified Caylee in tow. Caylee would not stop crying. Casey was already livid over the fight with Cindy and Caylee crying non stop aggravated the situation more. Casey pulled in somewhere (possibly that motel we heard about) and wrapped duct tape around her head to silence her.


I tend to agree with this more or less. I originally thought Casey got angry w/ Caylee for crying or crying for Cindy and hit or choked her causing her death. I even considered shaking. Like a "shut up shut up shut up" action I can see an enraged Casey doing. But the duct tape tells me differently. If she were already dead, why duct tape? if she were dying why duct tape? duct tape only plays in if used as a cause of death. otherwise it makes zero sense and is wasted effort. Casey doesn't seem the type to waste any effort.

[imc_e]

Good theory good looking!
However, I don't think she died in the house either. :ohmy:

Where do you think she was killed?

I was thinking, killed in Caseys room. :w00t:

[BobbysGirl]

I really appreciate the discussions and links from all.

However, I have a nagging question.

My understanding is that no inmate should have access to a puter or laptop. If I read correctly in early posts; Casey wants no contact w/her parents. Correct me if wrong. Can a lawyer bring in a laptop to client and send messages to Caseys parents w/o the jail knowing what it being said.

My point, letters that are sent are screened by the jail. To my knowledge. And what Casey can or cannot receive. How be it, that Casey and Baez can communicate w/her parents? If Casey does not want any thing to do w/her parents per se'. How can this be done?

If they all so worried by jail house tapes and visits then I think that any internet e-mails should or could be screened as well.

It is all total confusing to me.

Oh well. I don't know. An one here have an idea or link to rules?

TIA

BG

[marshmallow]

Where do you think she was killed?

I was thinking, killed in Caseys room. :w00t:


I can see that if Casey'd hurt her in anger and wanted to shut her up so Cindy/george couldn't hear her crying.

[onlykaty]

Where do you think she was killed?

I was thinking, killed in Caseys room. :w00t:


For what its worth, i think she was killed in the back seat of Casey's car and then throwed in the trunk, from there I'm not sure in my mind if she hid her body in the backyard before dumping in the woods or not..

[5boxersmom]

I would like to know if the Pooh blanket was always in Caylee's room or if it had been in Casey's car for a few days or longer before the 15th. Did it always stay on Caylee's bed?

If Casey got mad and stormed out with Caylee did she think to get a blanket? Or did she already have it in her car?


I want to thank whoever mentioned Text Twist here a few weeks ago because now I am addicted.lol

jmo

[imc_e]

I can see that if Casey'd hurt her in anger and wanted to shut her up so Cindy/george couldn't hear her crying.

I agree with your duct tape theory, that it was likely used during the murder, because Casey wouldn't be bothered otherwise to go anywhere out of her way.

Casey used the duct tape to shut her up forever.

When I think about the heart sticker and where it was placed on the mouth, I think of a little kid wanting Mommys stickers, and Mommy saying no, but in death 'heres a sticker you wanted so much'.

:crying:

[AnniePie]

I'm out of the sparring business these days, Annie ... sorry! (I left corporate America and all the wonder that is ~managing today's workforce~ about 5 years ago. The sparring takes its toll after awhile. :thumbdown:)

I can certainly commiserate. The problem with parenting diabolical 17 year olds is that you can't quit motherhood.

:wink:

[5boxersmom]

I really appreciate the discussions and links from all.

However, I have a nagging question.

My understanding is that no inmate should have access to a puter or laptop. If I read correctly in early posts; Casey wants no contact w/her parents. Correct me if wrong. Can a lawyer bring in a laptop to client and send messages to Caseys parents w/o the jail knowing what it being said.

My point, letters that are sent are screened by the jail. To my knowledge. And what Casey can or cannot receive. How be it, that Casey and Baez can communicate w/her parents? If Casey does not want any thing to do w/her parents per se'. How can this be done?

If they all so worried by jail house tapes and visits then I think that any internet e-mails should or could be screened as well.

It is all total confusing to me.

Oh well. I don't know. An one here have an idea or link to rules?

TIA

BG

Casey can write letters and send them out through Baez.

jmo

[Lavinia]

Where do you think she was killed?

I was thinking, killed in Caseys room. :w00t:

That's where I think, too, C_E. 2nd place, for me, is Caylee's BR, but I think it was Casey's.

[AnniePie]

Hey DT - did you see that in Indiana there is another 3 year old girl that was supposedly taken from the back seat of an 18 year old babysitter's vehicle while she ran in a convenience store to buy cigarettes and milk?
Jada Justice is her name, it is in Gary, IN...makes my Hoosier heart ache.

I heard that too, ndy. How heartbreaking. It really makes one wonder if copycat crimes are taking place since the OC murdered her child.

[AnnieBell]

Just a thought...have been thinking about the latest media tour from these Scamthony's...what do they think when even their own lawyer says he does not agree with them NOT going to see her in jail? They keep saying that they do not want to be video taped or audio taped at the jail fully aware that they could sit there and communicate through blinks, clicks and knocks, or whatever their weird little decoder ring language is...and at least have the APPEARANCE of supporting her by spending time with her in person (or as close as they can be via jail video) - but yet they have no fear or compunction about going on national tv and SAYING they support her (when we all know they don't see her) and think that this is not worse than anything that could possibly be said there? I mean they say it's because they don't want that video released to the media - but then they wh*re it up for the highest bidder at every other turn? - to promote their freakin fakeass Scamdation? To me that is FAR more scandalous than anything else they are trying to "hide" ... and why do they even HAVE legal representation if they don't heed his direct advice to them? Do they think we are all stupid? I so resent that...thoughts?

Hey, bout time you checked in. Won't get any argument out of me. MOO I think they're fearful of the wrath oc KC. They would rather take on all of the media before p**** her off. As for BC he doesn't do anything think anything or say anything without Cindy's ok. I think they brought BC in early on when they started breaking laws, obstructing justice and giving false testimony. Now, IMO, Casey refuses to see any of her family because she and boyfriend's defense is going to implicate G&C for the murder of that little girl. She only cooperated because they threatened harm to harm her if she didn't.

[Lavinia]

"for the good of it" aka "for free"

Hey GSJ! :seeya:

[sammy62]

does anyone have a link to Lee Anthony being interviewed by FBI

I have police for July 29

[Angel Eye]

Hi everyone,

Sorry to jump in here with this but I once again stumbled upon this site called the MysteryWriter I don't know who this person is but he has been following and writing about this case from day one. There are some picture's up that are very explicit so I warn you with Caution to brace yourselves although I know this may be just hearsay and speculation there is a photo of Casey Anthony in a lewd act and other photos' I believe that are those of Caylee's remains. There is quite abit of info on this site from June 2008 to March 2009. December 3rd, December 11th and 12th are the photo's that grabbed my attention. Once again I warn you to brace your self.

TwistedMysteryWriter.com Contents

[Lavinia]

does anyone have a link to Lee Anthony being interviewed by FBI

I have police for July 29

Did you check acandyrose.com, sammy?

[BobbysGirl]

Casey can write letters and send them out through Baez.

jmo

OK. I guess it is different laws in other states?

[Angel Eye]

Hi everyone,

Sorry to jump in here with this but I once again stumbled upon this site called the MysteryWriter I don't know who this person is but he has been following and writing about this case from day one. There are some picture's up that are very explicit so I warn you with Caution to brace yourselves although I know this may be just hearsay and speculation there is a photo of Casey Anthony in a lewd act and other photos' I believe that are those of Caylee's remains. There is quite abit of info on this site from June 2008 to March 2009. December 3rd, December 11th and 12th are the photo's that grabbed my attention. Once again I warn you to brace your self.

TwistedMysteryWriter.com Contents

(No need to add Contents after the .com Sorry about that)

[imc_e]

Hi everyone,

Sorry to jump in here with this but I once again stumbled upon this site called the MysteryWriter I don't know who this person is but he has been following and writing about this case from day one. There are some picture's up that are very explicit so I warn you with Caution to brace yourselves although I know this may be just hearsay and speculation there is a photo of Casey Anthony in a lewd act and other photos' I believe that are those of Caylee's remains. There is quite abit of info on this site from June 2008 to March 2009. December 3rd, December 11th and 12th are the photo's that grabbed my attention. Once again I warn you to brace your self.

TwistedMysteryWriter.com Contents

I do keep an eye on that site from time to time ..but :w00t:
this is the first time I have seen this pic of Casey with a lollipop in her mouth, its her too. I will post it on the IS meet and greet site.

whoah

[Myka]

I agree with your duct tape theory, that it was likely used during the murder, because Casey wouldn't be bothered otherwise to go anywhere out of her way.

Casey used the duct tape to shut her up forever.

When I think about the heart sticker and where it was placed on the mouth, I think of a little kid wanting Mommys stickers, and Mommy saying no, but in death 'heres a sticker you wanted so much'.

:crying:


Casey was mad when she wrapped Caylee's head with duct tape. She wrapped and wrapped and wrapped in a fit of rage

[Rapunzel]

Casey can write letters and send them out through Baez.

jmo


If she writes letters and sends them out through Baez, does the jail read them before he leaves with them???

[5boxersmom]

If she writes letters and sends them out through Baez, does the jail read them before he leaves with them???

No I do not think so. Someone here will know for sure.

jmo

[summer]

Good theory good looking!
However, I don't think she died in the house either. :ohmy:

For all her bravado I don't think she had the nerve to kill Caylee in the house. I think she was deeply terrified of Cindy... in a backwards sort of way.

[Angel Eye]

I do keep an eye on that site from time to time ..but :w00t:
this is the first time I have seen this pic of Casey with a lollipop in her mouth, its her too. I will post it on the IS meet and greet site.

whoah


I know I had to keep refreshing that pic to make sure I was seeing it correctly. Yeah it is Casey....Wow!!!!

[sammy62]

this one made me chuckle :laugh:

http://twistedmysterywriter.com/x_03_CrazyAnthonyAUGUST.html

[Justice4All2]

Another link to read up on and comment on the case:

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

[summer]

For what its worth, i think she was killed in the back seat of Casey's car and then throwed in the trunk, from there I'm not sure in my mind if she hid her body in the backyard before dumping in the woods or not..

I could go with the back seat too. Maybe greviously injured in back seat and then put in truck. Ack, it's a weird thing to speculate on.

[Myka]

I know I had to keep refreshing that pic to make sure I was seeing it correctly. Yeah it is Casey....Wow!!!!

WOW!! that sure does look like her!!! Could this be one of the photos that made Geo sick when LE was interviewing him

OMG!!!