Friday, June 19th, part 2

[marshmallow]

Awesome. And with that, I'll leave and read up on the case somewhere else. This hate for George and Cindy that has escalated to the point they're being blamed for the death of that sweet little girl they adored nauseates me. I'll cross my fingers and be glad when Casey is found guilty and pays for what SHE did.

just as Casey should be held accountable for her actions, so should anyone else. George and Cindy choose how they act and how they speak. I will honor Caylee by respecting her memory and donating to worthy causes in her name.

but I will not glorify her grandparent's behavior or excuse it only because they lost their grandchild by their own daughter's hand. I will respect them as soon as they behave in a manner that earns it. The loss of a loved one is not an excuse to disobey laws, disrespect others, or use death of an innocent child a money making scheme on network tv.

[kanzz]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589408.pdf

In the Forensics report it says on page 13 or 6563 that Compounds associated with anaerobic decomposition where found supporting an oxygen deprived decompositional event.

Does that mean that the body was oxygen deprived or that there was a lack of oxygen in the truck and the environment the event occured in was oxygen deprived?

I interpret that to mean that the environment in which the decomp took place was oxygen deprived... probably due to the bag(s).

[Unleashed]

Oh my do I have to play catch up in a big way.....everyone stop talking while I read. (ps...Cindy don't look happy..uh oh:scared:)

Thank goodness, really! I was worried about you. Lord only knows what's going on in your neighbourhood right now, it can't be pretty :scared:

JMO

[kanzz]

I was watching Forensic Files a couple of nights ago. They had a case about duct tape and finger prints.

A man was tied to a chair with duct tape and tossed into a river, alive.

Almost a whole 60yd roll of tape was used to tie him. The tape was pieced together and every rip matched, etc. No fingerprints were found on it. But LE was missing a very small piece of the tape.

LE had a suspect. Two, actually, as they were Brothers. Their Mommy gave them an alibi.

Someone was fishing, IIRC, months later, and found some duct tape. LE tested it. The finger print of one of the Brother's was on it. IIRC, they were able to tell that it was a piece used to wrap an ankle.

In the commentary, one of the detectives said it was very rare for a finger print to be found on tape after it had been in the water for so long.

I remember that case - I think you're talking about the banker in Noel, MO. I was living a short distance from there at the time. Sick boys, those brothers.

[Explorer]

so he can showcase the psychopath cindy.....and witness her 'shaking'.....shaking with RAGE....

it was refreshing to hear someone PUT IT TO George Anthony about his/their media interviews that simply dont seem to cause them anguish.....

and if that was a media producer (I think Today Show has 3)...well, it deflated their plea....media media media, but its OUR media and only WE are allowed to talk about the case...

Cindy and her superior attitude and GA, all leashed up and only goes where Cindy tells him to go....and BC, with loon-itis.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*
I guess the anthonys dont see the hypocrisy in that do they?:confused:

[kitty1182]

darn...I wish the media attorney had known that and could have asked george if they were sitting with the producer for the Today show....

LOL.That would have been good......:biggrin:

[sunstar]

Just getting back, bchand....glad you had a lovely day with your grandkids! I've been catching up, too.

I was so sickened by the "suffocation" theory that the tattoo business slipped my mind. Is the tattoo that important? Are they planning to show this as (more) proof of OC's callousness? Sounds like they're going to a lot of trouble to get the pictures.

Hi! A tattoo of "the good life" during the time your daughter is "missing" should be huge to the state's case. I'm glad they're going to add this. MOO

[msgatorslayer]

I remember that case - I think you're talking about the banker in Noel, MO. I was living a short distance from there at the time. Sick boys, those brothers.

Yes, that is it. He was kidnapped, taken to the bank, they got their money, and they still killed him like that. Sick boys, is right.

[boo]

just as Casey should be held accountable for her actions, so should anyone else. George and Cindy choose how they act and how they speak. I will honor Caylee by respecting her memory and donating to worthy causes in her name.

but I will not glorify her grandparent's behavior or excuse it only because they lost their grandchild by their own daughter's hand. I will respect them as soon as they behave in a manner that earns it. The loss of a loved one is not an excuse to disobey laws, disrespect others, or use death of an innocent child a money making scheme on network tv.

Amen, Marshmallow.

[msgatorslayer]

Hi! A tattoo of "the good life" during the time your daughter is "missing" should be huge to the state's case. I'm glad they're going to add this. MOO

Definately. More of her 'ugly coping'.:wink:

ETA - It could be alot worse. She could have gotten a 'RIP Caylee' tattoo before she knew she was dead. Like Scott Peterson saying his wife was dead before she was ever missing.

[CelticDawn]

We have free speech. Say what you will. You have the right and legal obligations. You may have moral obligations. That is for your personal consideration.

Some things I ponder:
=how would you feel if Caylee is in Heaven or some eternal state and is aware of all the things you are saying about Cindy and George?
You say you love her; would she see it that way?

=This board is about who murdered Caylee. Grandparents are not accused or on trial for that crime.

=All of their conduct relevant to the murder case is on topic. Other conduct is not.

=During all of Caylee's short life, the two people who took care of her, played with her, took her for rides through the neighborhood in a wagon and paid for her food, clothing and shelter were George and Cindy.

=Two of the people she loved most in her whole life were George and Cindy.

=Perhaps the person George and Cindy loved most in all the World was Caylee.

= She kept them together as a couple. There was joy in the marriage again in the form of a loved person who daily changed and charmed them with laughter and sweet child behavior.

=She was the most important aspect of their lives day to day. She healed a lot of wounds and gave new hope to two ordinary people with faults.

=That kind of love of child toward grandparents should be honored.

=That kind of love of grandparents for grandchild should be honored.

=It does not seem fitting or right or honorable to express glee at another's downfall.

=Caylee was about love. Let us honor her by acting with love.

May I ask that you think on these things from time to time.

Grins, I was so upset that I couldnt cope on the 15th and 16th just thinking about what caylee must have gone through and my only comfort was in my thoughts that she is in another realm....on another plane of existence....that her consciousness has been freed from the horror that surrounded the end of her life as we know life....

IF she is still aware of george and Cindy, I am sure that it saddens her to see their grief and anguish.....Although WE MAY HAVE MUCH DISDAIN AND DISGUST FOR THEM AND THEIR BEHAVIOUR, caylee may have unconditional love for them.....

I know that I am nowhere near perfect and because fo that have lost dear friends.....and I know that I would not want to inflict hurt on ANYBODY in the name of judgement and disagreement with the way they believe or the way they act.

I believe them to be scammers and I do believe them to be evil....but Caylee may not believe that....and I wouldnt want to hurt Caylee by wishing bad on the people that she loved in her life here ...and continue to love in her afterlife....

However, it is one thing to have done evil things and to take responsibility for ones actions....It is another to be UNACCOUNTABLE and to KEEP ACTING IN BAD WAYS.....

This entire thing has left me with very mixed feelings and feeling very heavy hearted.

However....I have NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT for the lying deceitful game-playing attorneys such as brad conway and Jose baez. I understand they have their jobs to do but there is a boundary.....there are parameters.....

[seeing_eye]

We have free speech. Say what you will. You have the right and legal obligations. You may have moral obligations. That is for your personal consideration.

Some things I ponder:
=how would you feel if Caylee is in Heaven or some eternal state and is aware of all the things you are saying about Cindy and George?
You say you love her; would she see it that way?

=This board is about who murdered Caylee. Grandparents are not accused or on trial for that crime.

=All of their conduct relevant to the murder case is on topic. Other conduct is not.

=During all of Caylee's short life, the two people who took care of her, played with her, took her for rides through the neighborhood in a wagon and paid for her food, clothing and shelter were George and Cindy.

=Two of the people she loved most in her whole life were George and Cindy.

=Perhaps the person George and Cindy loved most in all the World was Caylee.

= She kept them together as a couple. There was joy in the marriage again in the form of a loved person who daily changed and charmed them with laughter and sweet child behavior.

=She was the most important aspect of their lives day to day. She healed a lot of wounds and gave new hope to two ordinary people with faults.

=That kind of love of child toward grandparents should be honored.

=That kind of love of grandparents for grandchild should be honored.

=It does not seem fitting or right or honorable to express glee at another's downfall.

=Caylee was about love. Let us honor her by acting with love.

May I ask that you think on these things from time to time.

For starters, I do not believe the grandparents are that grieving over their granddaughter. They can't even say her name. If they really loved Caylee they would not want to support, lie, and cover up for her murderer. I think Caylee was just a possession to them and now she's only a moneymaker. They do not even care that much for Casey. They prefer to go on a media blitz to raise funds for their fundation even though it continually hurts Casey's case. It seems they have made their choice - their "daughters" or the money. The money won.

[spiritwolf46]

Can ya all tell that I have been in and out of the loop lately? Was all alone over there until SPOTS rescued me!

Thanks sweetie!

[baywench]

We have free speech. Say what you will. You have the right and legal obligations. You may have moral obligations. That is for your personal consideration.

Some things I ponder:
=how would you feel if Caylee is in Heaven or some eternal state and is aware of all the things you are saying about Cindy and George?
You say you love her; would she see it that way?

=This board is about who murdered Caylee. Grandparents are not accused or on trial for that crime.

=All of their conduct relevant to the murder case is on topic. Other conduct is not.

=During all of Caylee's short life, the two people who took care of her, played with her, took her for rides through the neighborhood in a wagon and paid for her food, clothing and shelter were George and Cindy.

=Two of the people she loved most in her whole life were George and Cindy.

=Perhaps the person George and Cindy loved most in all the World was Caylee.

= She kept them together as a couple. There was joy in the marriage again in the form of a loved person who daily changed and charmed them with laughter and sweet child behavior.

=She was the most important aspect of their lives day to day. She healed a lot of wounds and gave new hope to two ordinary people with faults.

=That kind of love of child toward grandparents should be honored.

=That kind of love of grandparents for grandchild should be honored.

=It does not seem fitting or right or honorable to express glee at another's downfall.

=Caylee was about love. Let us honor her by acting with love.

May I ask that you think on these things from time to time.

And if they love her that much they owe her dignity in death, which they certainly did not give her, and they owe her justice, which they will never give her as long as they perpetuate the myth that she was killed by someone other than her mother. They have let her down imo

[sunstar]

Definately. More of her 'ugly coping'.:wink:

ETA - It could be alot worse. She could have gotten a 'RIP Caylee' tattoo before she knew she was dead. Like Scott Peterson saying his wife was dead before she was ever missing.

Exactly ~ more 'ugly coping'! I don't think she'd ever "disgrace" her body with a "RIP Caylee" tattoo. MOO

[boo]

I want to know Casey's reaction to the Cindy Anthony speech at the memorial where she said something to the affect of I have three children.

Please tell me there's videotape of that.
:w00t:

[summer]

I'd venture to say Caylee's in another realm. She's not thinking human thoughts at all. She's morphing with the universe and all this is left behind her.

I'm pretty sure she's beyond caring about those poor excuses for grandparents. Just IMO.

[baywench]

Awesome. And with that, I'll leave and read up on the case somewhere else. This hate for George and Cindy that has escalated to the point they're being blamed for the death of that sweet little girl they adored nauseates me. I'll cross my fingers and be glad when Casey is found guilty and pays for what SHE did.


See ya :rolleyes:

[Explorer]

LOL.That would have been good......:biggrin:

yes that would have been classic

[summer]

See ya :rolleyes:

I'd like to know where this mythical place is where everyone loves the Anthonys. :rolleyes:

[Explorer]

I'd like to know where this mythical place is where everyone loves the Anthonys. :rolleyes:

Right:laugh:

[MiamiNice1]

Caylee M. Anthony autopsy Report

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0619/19802034.pdf
Looks like there is no question that the remains were there for quite some time.

"Multiple fine roots appear to be growing completely through the blanket."

[FallenAngel♥]

I would like to know if duct tape was ever used on CASEY as child as a form of punishment.

[spiritwolf46]

I'd like to know where this mythical place is where everyone loves the Anthonys. :rolleyes:

Oh! You and me both! I truly do not think for one minute that one exists!

[summer]

Right:laugh:

Hee. Camelot? Brigadoon? On the street where you live? :confused:

[MiamiNice1]

And if they love her that much they owe her dignity in death, which they certainly did not give her, and they owe her justice, which they will never give her as long as they perpetuate the myth that she was killed by someone other than her mother. They have let her down imo
Ditto X 1,000,000 and Bravo! Excellent words!

[summer]

Oh! You and me both! I truly do not think for one minute that one exists!

I think we're pretty tame and erudite compared to some of those blogs out there -- talk about vile! :smile:

[summer]

Looks like there is no question that the remains were there for quite some time.

"Multiple fine roots appear to be growing completely through the blanket."

And even more devastating.. through the spine. :crying:

[seeing_eye]

I'd like to know where this mythical place is where everyone loves the Anthonys. :rolleyes:

I've visited 8 other message boards (I like this one best), and I've never seen many Anthony family sympathizers on any of them.

[AnnInOhio]

Did anybody else catch in the report today that some fine sand was found in the laundry bag found with the body? I've always believed Casey drowned Caylee in the family pool and would have either drugged her or taped her mouth to keep her quiet until it was over. She'd probably have laid the wet body down in the yard at some point afterward while she went to get trash bags & the laundry bag to hide the body in. Didn't Caylee have a sandbox in the yard?

[Unleashed]

yes that would have been classic

Does this mean we can expect to see them Monday on Today?
Lord, I hope not.
We may have to unleash the keyboards this weekend. :sneaky:

JMO

[Explorer]

Did anybody else catch in the report today that some fine sand was found in the laundry bag found with the body? I've always believed Casey drowned Caylee in the family pool and would have either drugged her or taped her mouth to keep her quiet until it was over. She'd probably have laid the wet body down in the yard at some point afterward while she went to get trash bags & the laundry bag to hide the body in. Didn't Caylee have a sandbox in the yard?

She may have tried to bury her in the sandbox

[summer]

I've visited 8 other message boards (I like this one best), and I've never seen many Anthony family sympathizers on any of them.

I think it's all the same five law interns personally.

[seeing_eye]

Did anybody else catch in the report today that some fine sand was found in the laundry bag found with the body? I've always believed Casey drowned Caylee in the family pool and would have either drugged her or taped her mouth to keep her quiet until it was over. She'd probably have laid the wet body down in the yard at some point afterward while she went to get trash bags & the laundry bag to hide the body in. Didn't Caylee have a sandbox in the yard?

After reading the autopsy report today I don't believe Caylee was drowned. I think she was suffocated with the duct tape. I do think her body may have been stored temporarily in or under the sand box in the yard.

[kanzz]

just as Casey should be held accountable for her actions, so should anyone else. George and Cindy choose how they act and how they speak. I will honor Caylee by respecting her memory and donating to worthy causes in her name.

but I will not glorify her grandparent's behavior or excuse it only because they lost their grandchild by their own daughter's hand. I will respect them as soon as they behave in a manner that earns it. The loss of a loved one is not an excuse to disobey laws, disrespect others, or use death of an innocent child a money making scheme on network tv.

Of all the discussion I've read on today's threads about the grandparents, I agree with this one most.

I can't bring myself to blame them for Caylee's murder. This is a truly dysfunctional family. Dysfunction is often self-perpetuating. Hindsight is 20/20. They've paid the ultimate price.

There, but for the grace of god, go I. My first marriage - into which I brought two children - was with a sociopath. When I finally figured things out, it was almost too late. I was doing the best I knew how at the time. If one of my kids had committed a crime during that time, people here would have crucified me.

[AnnInOhio]

She may have tried to bury her in the sandbox

Digging in sand is a little more like something I'd expect Casey might attempt - unlike her using a shovel to dig bamboo roots!

[MiamiNice1]

Hi! A tattoo of "the good life" during the time your daughter is "missing" should be huge to the state's case. I'm glad they're going to add this. MOO
Yes, I agree - the tattoo is very damning to Casey's defense. Looks like the prosecution is covering all their bases. :thumbsup:

How can any normal person get past her doing this? The jurors will be wondering - How could Casey bring herself to do such a thing? Whether she thought Caylee had been kidnapped.....or even after murdering Caylee.....how could she??? :angry:

[sunstar]

And even more devastating.. through the spine. :crying:

I'm watching Nancy's show again, and they just said 3-6 months for the roots, and that's after the body decomposed. :crying:

[spiritwolf46]

And even more devastating.. through the spine. :crying:

I think that it was things just like this that the A's didn't want read on that report. I know that Geo said that he never saw the report, but that doesn't mean that Baez or Conway didn't tell them what was in it!

[Unleashed]

Oh! You and me both! I truly do not think for one minute that one exists!

Does too!!!
It's around the corner from where the Nanny and her half-baked pomeranian live.



JMO

[summer]

I think that it was things just like this that the A's didn't want read on that report. I know that Geo said that he never saw the report, but that doesn't mean that Baez or Conway didn't tell them what was in it!

I don't know how the A's are gonna regroup for their road show after this but I'm sure they'll find a way. :mad:

[MissElainyS]

Well, hello, Miss. It's a pleasure to meet you. Welcome to IS.

It does sound terrible the way Caylee died. IMO Casey left the night of the 16th after she and Cindy had that fight where Cindy choked Casey and IMO I do believe that Casey stormed out of that house with Caylee in tow and Caylee was screaming and afraid of the hostility surrounding her. Casey was yelling, like, 'shut up.... Shut the .... up and Caylee wouldn't stop crying because she was dramatized.

Casey couldn't handle it and she duct taped that baby's mouth.
JMO

I see it happening just a tad different due to the heart sticker that was put on her mouth. I think that she hauled Caylee off that night just exactly as you described, took her to a remote place and then wrapped the duct tape around her head a few times (I do agree Caylee must have been crying) very purposefully, not in the heat of passion, panic or lack of being able to handle it, but with spite and malice against Caylee and Cindy, wrapped the tape around her mouth and nose and stood there and watched this kid kicking and struggling for air until she succumbed. I think that this was building up inside Casey for a long time, that she resented this baby, was jealous of this baby and was sick and tired of being tied down with this baby. I think it was intentional and very well thought out. The sticker imho was a little jab at Caylee.

[really3997]

Thank goodness, really! I was worried about you. Lord only knows what's going on in your neighbourhood right now, it can't be pretty :scared:

JMO

Thanks for worrying. I see everyone is on one board now..

[Oregongal]

Evening all.
I'm just jumping in, haven't been reading the board today, but just finished reading the autopsy report.
In going thru this autospy report, I can now see why the Ant's didn't want it released.
Now, I'm not a medical person at all and next time I go thru it I'm going to have the medical dictionary open to help me understand all the words I don't know.

But, back to the Ant's resistance....
If I'm reading correctly, Caylee's body was ducked taped not with one strip, as I was thinking, but with several strips. Covering the nose, the mouth and just under the mouth holding the jaw in place (minus the connective tissue) and attached to the hair. So, the strips of tape were long enough to cover her whole face from nose down and go into her hair and were perhaps put on with great force in order make sure the contact and covering would be difficult, if not impossible for Caylee to remove it if she were fighting and struggling to breath by trying to remove this duct tape.

There is evidence that the body was in that area before it was completely decomposed. In fact shortly after she died.

Just these two things tell me that the Ant's didn't want the truth of the duct tape as well as the time Dr. G and the others have opined on when Caylee was dumped in those woods.
The duct tape was extreme, that means they are now or have realized that their daughter killed their gdaugher. It was no accident and it seems to have been done in a rage.
They also now have to recognize that Caylee was never missing...she'd been murdered and dumped all the while they kept saying they knew she was alive and missing.
They have, in a way, immediately with this report, lost their standing of grandparents of a missing grandaughter.
I don't feel that it might be the certain humilation that most people in their postition feel that has them so upset and devestated.
I think that now that the autopsy report out there for everyone to read, they are afraid the people who have thus far been feeling sorry for them and supporting them and giving them money may just begin to drift away and the supply of money as well and the sympathy and support they have received is going to drift away as well.
I have not been able to figure out if they feel shame or embarrassment to be in this situation at all. To have their daugher sitting in jail for the murder of their grandaugter. I only witnessed anger at others, blaming of others, defensivness, lying, covering up and maybe even destruction of evidence as well as obstruction and hindering of the investigation of the death of their grandaughter.
They have displayed no real sorrow, they have continued to show an arrogance and lack of humility that sickens me beyond no end.
I wonder now if they will finally crawl into their home and stay away and out of the public eye for awhile.
Because in my mind, this autopsy report just kicked their legs out from under them.
Poor Caylee, I'm so sad to learn of the reality of the duct tape.
I really, reallly pray that she was asleep or unconcious while her own mother taped her up and made sure she would never draw another breath.
If not, I can't imagine how confused and terrified she must have been and then if she had to look her mother in the eyes as it was happening.
Oh, my dear Lord.
:rose::rose::rose:

[AnnInOhio]

After reading the autopsy report today I don't believe Caylee was drowned. I think she was suffocated with the duct tape. I do think her body may have been stored temporarily in or under the sand box in the yard.

Was there anything about the duct tape being over her nose and cheek area as well as over her mounth/jaw area? I know it was more than one piece.

[spiritwolf46]

Does too!!!
It's around the corner from where the Nanny and her half-baked pomeranian live.



JMO

OH! Silly me!!!!!! (Spirit slapping her own forehead!)


:laugh:

[CelticDawn]

It has been a year now....

It will have been one year in JULY since I started following this case.

I thought it would get easier, but it has become MUCH MORE difficult.

I know how I feel about casey, Cindy, George, and their attorneys, but when I think of Caylee and what her consciousness may or may not be it just HURTS.

This is not for ME....but because CAYLEE has been betrayed, exploited, and totally disrespected on all levels,......and continues to be so.

[Cinsd]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

[Explorer]

Evening all.
I'm just jumping in, haven't been reading the board today, but just finished reading the autopsy report.
In going thru this autospy report, I can now see why the Ant's didn't want it released.
Now, I'm not a medical person at all and next time I go thru it I'm going to have the medical dictionary open to help me understand all the words I don't know.

But, back to the Ant's resistance....
If I'm reading correctly, Caylee's body was ducked taped not with one strip, as I was thinking, but with several strips. Covering the nose, the mouth and just under the mouth holding the jaw in place (minus the connective tissue) and attached to the hair. So, the strips of tape were long enough to cover her whole face from nose down and go into her hair and were perhaps put on with great force in order make sure the contact and covering would be difficult, if not impossible for Caylee to remove it if she were fighting and struggling to breath by trying to remove this duct tape.

There is evidence that the body was in that area before it was completely decomposed. In fact shortly after she died.

Just these two things tell me that the Ant's didn't want the truth of the duct tape as well as the time Dr. G and the others have opined on when Caylee was dumped in those woods.
The duct tape was extreme, that means they are now or have realized that their daughter killed their gdaugher. It was no accident and it seems to have been done in a rage.
They also now have to recognize that Caylee was never missing...she'd been murdered and dumped all the while they kept saying they knew she was alive and missing.
They have, in a way, immediately with this report, lost their standing of grandparents of a missing grandaughter.
I don't feel that it might be the certain humilation that most people in their postition feel that has them so upset and devestated.
I think that now that the autopsy report out there for everyone to read, they are afraid the people who have thus far been feeling sorry for them and supporting them and giving them money may just begin to drift away and the supply of money as well and the sympathy and support they have received is going to drift away as well.
I have not been able to figure out if they feel shame or embarrassment to be in this situation at all. To have their daugher sitting in jail for the murder of their grandaugter. I only witnessed anger at others, blaming of others, defensivness, lying, covering up and maybe even destruction of evidence as well as obstruction and hindering of the investigation of the death of their grandaughter.
They have displayed no real sorrow, they have continued to show an arrogance and lack of humility that sickens me beyond no end.
I wonder now if they will finally crawl into their home and stay away and out of the public eye for awhile.
Because in my mind, this autopsy report just kicked their legs out from under them.
Poor Caylee, I'm so sad to learn of the reality of the duct tape.
I really, reallly pray that she was asleep or unconcious while her own mother taped her up and made sure she would never draw another breath.
If not, I can't imagine how confused and terrified she must have been and then if she had to look her mother in the eyes as it was happening.
Oh, my dear Lord.
:rose::rose::rose:

I think this was a turning point.

[sammy62]

I've visited 8 other message boards (I like this one best), and I've never seen many Anthony family sympathizers on any of them.

Could have been one of the A's themselves. Although Cindy doesn't usually leave without a war.

[True2Blues]

For starters, I do not believe the grandparents are that grieving over their granddaughter. They can't even say her name. If they really loved Caylee they would not want to support, lie, and cover up for her murderer. I think Caylee was just a possession to them and now she's only a moneymaker. They do not even care that much for Casey. They prefer to go on a media blitz to raise funds for their fundation even though it continually hurts Casey's case. It seems they have made their choice - their "daughters" or the money. The money won.


I agree. What I think about is how easily G and C pushed aside any mention of Caylee, so that they could spend time in front of TV cameras defending Casey, how they criticized people for looking for her (while they sat home and did nothing but wait for the media to give them face time) and how they tore down memorials to the little girl they claim to have loved so much.

[kanzz]

Was there anything about the duct tape being over her nose and cheek area as well as over her mounth/jaw area? I know it was more than one piece.

It was over both the mandible (lower jaw) and maxilla (upper jaw).

ETA: http://healthbase.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/hb_orthognathic_surgery.png

[bchand]

I've visited 8 other message boards (I like this one best), and I've never seen many Anthony family sympathizers on any of them.

and you won't. It's the same few hopping from board to board.

[Explorer]

I agree. What I think about is how easily G and C pushed aside any mention of Caylee, so that they could spend time in front of TV cameras defending Casey, how they criticized people for looking for her (while they sat home and did nothing but wait for the media to give them face time) and how they tore down memorials to the little girl they claim to have loved so much.

And to criticize Mr. Cummings I think that beats all!

[AnnInOhio]

Yes, I agree - the tattoo is very damning to Casey's defense. Looks like the prosecution is covering all their bases. :thumbsup:

How can any normal person get past her doing this? The jurors will be wondering - How could Casey bring herself to do such a thing? Whether she thought Caylee had been kidnapped.....or even after murdering Caylee.....how could she??? :angry:

The choice of that particular tattoo and its timing chills me to the bone because it shows Casey didn't think at all about how this was going to play out. She had to have really thought she could pull this off and nobody would seriously question her - that she'd be able to sell the Casey's gonna be with Zanny story to her family and friends as easily as she'd sold them the "I'm off to my job today" fantasy.

[Explorer]

Thats when they were on their high horse.:biggrin:

[spiritwolf46]

I don't know how the A's are gonna regroup for their road show after this but I'm sure they'll find a way. :mad:

OH, they will regroup. To them, running to every single talk show that they can to tell US, the viewers, what a wonderful mother Casey was, will fuel them forever! Little do they know, or don't want to know is that every single time they do this, they lose more and more credibility and more and more people (if there are any left)! They truly think that they are doing good and as long as they think that, they will keep going. SOOOO unfortunate to those of us who truly do not want to listen to them and even more unfortunate to little Caylee who never had a prayer since the day after she was reported missing! It was all about Casey and cover up after that.

[Unleashed]

Was there anything about the duct tape being over her nose and cheek area as well as over her mounth/jaw area? I know it was more than one piece.

If it was more than one piece, that means either Casey had to stop and rip it off piece by piece, or she had them pre-ripped. Either concept is horrifying. :cursing:
The second shows premeditation.

JMO

[CelticDawn]

Did I hear correctly that they had NOT read the autopsy reports?
Did I hear correctly that CONWAY had read said reports?

You know, I believe they "knew" that Casey murdered Caylee before this but I think that the knowledge of the manner in which the duct tape was placed over her face really FURTHER VILLIFIED Casey...moreso than she already has been.....It reveals the extent of the evil inside of her.....and If it were ME I would be SO ASHAMED that I would LEAVE TOWN....I wouldn't stay....I would disappear!!!

I do believe they knew the truth but I don't believe it hit home until the actual details were spelled out for them.

[girlspell]

The Anthonys are showing their ugly side by trying to save their daughter. I think Caylee is secondary now. All they care about now is Casey. They'll do anything, and I mean anything to protect Casey. Even if they know Casey did kill Caylee.

This the first I've heard of the autopsy report. There goes my pathetic theory that this was originally an accident. That was a horrible way for anyone to die. It makes me want even more for Casey to die in the electric chair. I still doubt she'll get it. But I feel better about her chances to be behind bars the rest of her life.

[101Spots]

If it was more than one piece, that means either Casey had to stop and rip it off piece by piece, or she had them pre-ripped. Either concept is horrifying. :cursing:
The second shows premeditation.

JMO

So does the first concept. She could have stopped between pieces 2 and 3. Or pieces 3 and 4......

[CelticDawn]

If it was more than one piece, that means either Casey had to stop and rip it off piece by piece, or she had them pre-ripped. Either concept is horrifying. :cursing:
The second shows premeditation.

JMO

I just can't begin to imagine the level of horror felt by caylee.....if she was conscious


an ANGRY Mother...


wondering WHY her "mother" would do such a horrible thing to her...

[summer]

OH, they will regroup. To them, running to every single talk show that they can to tell US, the viewers, what a wonderful mother Casey was, will fuel them forever! Little do they know, or don't want to know is that every single time they do this, they lose more and more credibility and more and more people (if there are any left)! They truly think that they are doing good and as long as they think that, they will keep going. SOOOO unfortunate to those of us who truly do not want to listen to them and even more unfortunate to little Caylee who never had a prayer since the day after she was reported missing! It was all about Casey and cover up after that.

The thing is, way more people watch LKL and the Today Show than read autopsy reports like we do so I guess there will still be compassion from nice people who don't know what the truth is.

For example, Conway said there was NO DUCT TAPE around the skull with such authority on LKL he's probably believed -- a lot of people don't know that's been refuted.

It's OK though. Even though they'll keep telling bald-faced lies on these programs (which blows my mind at the audacity) it'll come out at trial.

I'm just so relieved at the Judge's ruling today. whew.

[Explorer]

I just can't begin to imagine the level of horror felt by caylee.....if she was conscious


an ANGRY Mother...


wondering WHY her "mother" would do such a horrible thing to her...

Dont fret Celtic Dawn justice WILL be served.

[AnnInOhio]

OH, they will regroup. To them, running to every single talk show that they can to tell US, the viewers, what a wonderful mother Casey was, will fuel them forever! Little do they know, or don't want to know is that every single time they do this, they lose more and more credibility and more and more people (if there are any left)! They truly think that they are doing good and as long as they think that, they will keep going. SOOOO unfortunate to those of us who truly do not want to listen to them and even more unfortunate to little Caylee who never had a prayer since the day after she was reported missing! It was all about Casey and cover up after that.

Hey, I guess it beats working! What kind of mythical jobs do they have to keep financially afloat where they have so much time to be in court and on TV all the time? Don't even try to tell me they've made it thru the system and are receiving SS disability due to stress!

[CelticDawn]

The Anthonys are showing their ugly side by trying to save their daughter. I think Caylee is secondary now. All they care about now is Casey. They'll do anything, and I mean anything to protect Casey. Even if they know Casey did kill Caylee.

This the first I've heard of the autopsy report. There goes my pathetic theory that this was originally an accident. That was a horrible way for anyone to die. It makes me want even more for Casey to die in the electric chair. I still doubt she'll get it. But I feel better about her chances to be behind bars the rest of her life.

as much ill will as I feel toward the Anthonys (G & C) I have to think about what grins said.....

BUT as for Casey......LET HER FEEL WHAT CAYLEE FELT in her final moments......bring her back from the brink of death and do it again after it is EXPLAINED to her just WHY this is happening and HOW CAYLEE MUST HAVE FELT.

God forgive me....but that is how I feel about Casey

[kanzz]

hate to be a pain, but could some kind soul please point me in the right direction to find the information regarding more than one piece of duct tape? tia

[AnnInOhio]

If it was more than one piece, that means either Casey had to stop and rip it off piece by piece, or she had them pre-ripped. Either concept is horrifying. :cursing:
The second shows premeditation.

JMO

My guess would be she had them pre-ripped and and with the heart attached so Caylee would think they were playing some kind of game.

[Oregongal]

Did I hear correctly that they had NOT read the autopsy reports?
Did I hear correctly that CONWAY had read said reports?

You know, I believe they "knew" that Casey murdered Caylee before this but I think that the knowledge of the manner in which the duct tape was placed over her face really FURTHER VILLIFIED Casey...moreso than she already has been.....It reveals the extent of the evil inside of her.....and If it were ME I would be SO ASHAMED that I would LEAVE TOWN....I wouldn't stay....I would disappear!!!

I do believe they knew the truth but I don't believe it hit home until the actual details were spelled out for them.

CD, I've heard as well they had NOT read the autopsy report...but, I'm sorry, I don't believe much of what comes out their mouths, so don't believe this. Why else would they have gone so far to prevent the report from being released? Oh, Brad, said, it doesn't look good for Casey, you might try and get it suppressed? And they go on to do just that without knowing what's in it? I hardly think so.
I think they read it as soon as JB got it no matter what they or BC says.
And ITA with everything else you said.
:thumbup:

[summer]

hate to be a pain, but could some kind soul please point me in the right direction to find the information regarding more than one piece of duct tape? tia

Hi there. I'm not sure exactly where in the report but you can find the whole thing on any of the news sites and go through it...

[spiritwolf46]

The thing is, way more people watch LKL and the Today Show than read autopsy reports like we do so I guess there will still be compassion from nice people who don't know what the truth is.

For example, Conway said there was NO DUCT TAPE around the skull with such authority on LKL he's probably believed -- a lot of people don't know that's been refuted.

It's OK though. Even though they'll keep telling bald-faced lies on these programs (which blows my mind at the audacity) it'll come out at trial.

I'm just so relieved at the Judge's ruling today. whew.

I know what you mean. I really do.

I just hope that those who have seen them on these programs got curious, looked this case up and are now seeing these people for who they truly are!

[kanzz]

hate to be a pain, but could some kind soul please point me in the right direction to find the information regarding more than one piece of duct tape? tia

ugh... quoting myself.

NVM - found it.

[Oregongal]

So does the first concept. She could have stopped between pieces 2 and 3. Or pieces 3 and 4......

I feel the minute she put that first strip on Caylee's face and didn't rip it off, yet went on to put 2,3 or 4 mor pieces of tape on her, shows total premeditation.
And I think this tape evidence was exactly why the State brought the DP back.

[101Spots]

hate to be a pain, but could some kind soul please point me in the right direction to find the information regarding more than one piece of duct tape? tia

Autopsy Report (http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19801498/detail.html)

Page 2, Item 1C.

[kanzz]

O/T: isn't Jean Casarez a breath of fresh air when she's sitting in for Nancy Grace?

jmo

[Carol25]

Picturing how it must have happened, I assume Casey taped Caylee's hands and ankles initially as well. When she was taping her mouth and nose and Caylee was beginning to struggle, I believe the Angels came and helped her by putting her in a trance like state to ease the horror to come. God would would have requested that.

That is what I want to believe.

Casey probably removed the tape from the ankles and hands to pack Poor Caylee in the bags.

[spiritwolf46]

Hey, I guess it beats working! What kind of mythical jobs do they have to keep financially afloat where they have so much time to be in court and on TV all the time? Don't even try to tell me they've made it thru the system and are receiving SS disability due to stress!

Unfortunately, I think that we all know the answer to this! They are the Scamthonys!!! They have a foundation to live off of! All this boo-hooing by Geo today! Give me a FREAKING break! They are living off that dead little baby and only care about themselves and the murderer!

I am watching NG for the first time tonight and am hearing a couple of callers stating that they are having a hard time feeling bad for them. Looks like what they are doing is working! They are being exposed every single day for the liars and lowlife that they are.

Good enough for them!

[101Spots]

Nope, this girl was on TV and stated it.....

She said that she was a former inmate in the same jail as Casey.

She told the story.

But she was the only one who told the story. Others (jail officers) tell a different story.

Until I hear someone else say the same thing, I remain skeptical.

[A.M.]

Did anybody else catch in the report today that some fine sand was found in the laundry bag found with the body? I've always believed Casey drowned Caylee in the family pool and would have either drugged her or taped her mouth to keep her quiet until it was over. She'd probably have laid the wet body down in the yard at some point afterward while she went to get trash bags & the laundry bag to hide the body in. Didn't Caylee have a sandbox in the yard?

She probably duck taped her mouth, nose and hands - and then threw her in the pool - where she drowned.

It's too sickening to even imagine. :(

[sammy62]

Dont fret Celtic Dawn justice WILL be served.

I think I'm calling it a night. This board has really depressed me tonight. I think the tears I have tonight are more sincere than G's were.

For the death/LWP discussion. How about 10 years in solitary and then the needle. The worst of both scenerios.

Goodnight all. :wub:

[kanzz]

Autopsy Report (http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19801498/detail.html)

Page 2, Item 1C.

Thank you.

[Dick Tracy]

If it was more than one piece, that means either Casey had to stop and rip it off piece by piece, or she had them pre-ripped. Either concept is horrifying. :cursing:
The second shows premeditation.

JMO

This same thought gnawed at me all afternoon. When I heard there were MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DUCT TAPE, I thought to myself, she ripped a piece off, looked at Caylee, put it on, and then picked up the roll of duct tape, and ripped off another.. That is the most horrible, horrific thought.

But to top it all off, what is the most TWISTED THING THAT SHE DOES NEXT, is puts a heart sticker directly over the mouth. A heart sticker. WTH is she thinking when she does that? I can't even begin to imagine. Was it a heinous game that went astray? Look Caylee I just put a heart sticker over your mouth. Look in the mirror honey. Isn't that funny?

Sure, they're have been more horrific twisted crimes in America. Dalmer comes to mind. Couey. This one is equally as twisted. I have no doubt of the guilt of the PRP. I hope she never gets it out of her mind that frightened look in the eyes of her poor defenseless daughter.

She deserves to die the same way. An eye for an eye.

[AnnInOhio]

O/T: isn't Jean Casarez a breath of fresh air when she's sitting in for Nancy Grace?

jmo

You betcha!

[Carol25]

I think I'm calling it a night. This board has really depressed me tonight. I think the tears I have tonight are more sincere than G's were.

For the death/LWP discussion. How about 10 years in solitary and then the needle. The worst of both scenerios.

Goodnight all. :wub:
Let's take 3 of those 10 years in the general population...

[CelticDawn]

hate to be a pain, but could some kind soul please point me in the right direction to find the information regarding more than one piece of duct tape? tia

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0619/19802034.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589383.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589408.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589423.pdf

This might be the stuff you're looking for.

[kanzz]

Picturing how it must have happened, I assume Casey taped Caylee's hands and ankles initially as well. When she was taping her mouth and nose and Caylee was beginning to struggle, I believe the Angels came and helped her by putting her in a trance like state to ease the horror to come. God would would have requested that.

That is what I want to believe.

Casey probably removed the tape from the ankles and hands to pack Poor Caylee in the bags.

Or maybe she used chloroform to subdue the baby first? I don't necessarily disagree about the ankles and hands, but I can't see the killer removing tape.

[summer]

I think I'm calling it a night. This board has really depressed me tonight. I think the tears I have tonight are more sincere than G's were.

For the death/LWP discussion. How about 10 years in solitary and then the needle. The worst of both scenerios.

Goodnight all. :wub:

goodnight sammy62, i'm right behind you! :seeya:

[kanzz]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0619/19802034.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589383.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589408.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589423.pdf

This might be the stuff you're looking for.

Y'all are too good to me... TY!

[Carol25]

Or maybe she used chloroform to subdue the baby first? I don't necessarily disagree about the ankles and hands, but I can't see the killer removing tape.
It would be easier to manipulate the body with the tape removed. especially the arms, to fit it the bags.
However, I thought all along she was drugged with chloroform, too.

[spiritwolf46]

goodnight sammy62, i'm right behind you! :seeya:

Goodnight Sammy and Summer.

[Oregongal]

I think I'm calling it a night. This board has really depressed me tonight. I think the tears I have tonight are more sincere than G's were.

For the death/LWP discussion. How about 10 years in solitary and then the needle. The worst of both scenerios.

Goodnight all. :wub:

Good sammy, sleep well.
I am also shedding tears and really depressed about the day's events.
(((Hugs))) sammy.

[seeing_eye]

Did I hear correctly that they had NOT read the autopsy reports?
Did I hear correctly that CONWAY had read said reports?

You know, I believe they "knew" that Casey murdered Caylee before this but I think that the knowledge of the manner in which the duct tape was placed over her face really FURTHER VILLIFIED Casey...moreso than she already has been.....It reveals the extent of the evil inside of her.....and If it were ME I would be SO ASHAMED that I would LEAVE TOWN....I wouldn't stay....I would disappear!!!

I do believe they knew the truth but I don't believe it hit home until the actual details were spelled out for them.

IMO, the reason C&G did not want the autopsy report released is because it would give a pretty good explanation of how Caylee was killed. If you recall, they and all their supporters (soda pops and all) continually argued that the duct tape could not have been adhered to the skull at all. They continually insinuated that it was the interpretation of the LE investigators that they merely believed that was where the tape had been. This has been one of the biggest arguments from this camp. The autopsy report pretty much shoots that theory full of holes.

[kitty1182]

Picturing how it must have happened, I assume Casey taped Caylee's hands and ankles initially as well. When she was taping her mouth and nose and Caylee was beginning to struggle, I believe the Angels came and helped her by putting her in a trance like state to ease the horror to come. God would would have requested that.

That is what I want to believe.

Casey probably removed the tape from the ankles and hands to pack Poor Caylee in the bags.

I have always believed God intervenes and doesn't let a child feel the pain we think they may feel....

[spiritwolf46]

Good sammy, sleep well.
I am also shedding tears and really depressed about the day's events.
(((Hugs))) sammy.

Hi sweetie!

It is depressing, isn't it? We have heard most of it, but when it is in writing, then it sure puts things into a deep, dark perspective.

[spiritwolf46]

I have always believed God intervenes and doesn't let a child feel the pain we think they may feel....

That is so precious, kitty!

[Unleashed]

This same thought gnawed at me all afternoon. When I heard there were MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DUCT TAPE, I thought to myself, she ripped a piece off, looked at Caylee, put it on, and then picked up the roll of duct tape, and ripped off another.. That is the most horrible, horrific thought.

But to top it all off, what is the most TWISTED THING THAT SHE DOES NEXT, is puts a heart sticker directly over the mouth. A heart sticker. WTH is she thinking when she does that? I can't even begin to imagine. Was it a heinous game that went astray? Look Caylee I just put a heart sticker over your mouth. Look in the mirror honey. Isn't that funny?

Sure, they're have been more horrific twisted crimes in America. Dalmer comes to mind. Couey. This one is equally as twisted. I have no doubt of the guilt of the PRP. I hope she never gets it out of her mind that frightened look in the eyes of her poor defenseless daughter.

She deserves to die the same way. An eye for an eye.

The horror that baby must have felt makes me weep. I cannot imagine the terror of knowing that someone you love is hurting you in such a way, and she had to have been looking at her at the time. She could have had the decency to drug her first. Sorry, what was I thinking? I used the word decency.

You are right. An eye for an eye.

[kanzz]

It would be easier to manipulate the body with the tape removed. especially the arms, to fit it the bags.
However, I thought all along she was drugged with chloroform, too.

Me too. My first hunch after I heard about the chloroform was that it was used to keep Caylee quiet so she wouldn't struggle during the dirty deed. I never bought into Casey using it as a babysitter.

[seeing_eye]

Nope, this girl was on TV and stated it.....

She said that she was a former inmate in the same jail as Casey.

She told the story.

I know. I saw the video. Just saying that just because some former jail inmate said it does not necessarily make it so. I thought her story sounded implausible. Until it's proven true, I'll just consider it a rumor (or gossip).

[denjet]

This May Help (http://www.virtual-design.com/demos/voodoodoll/voodoo.asp?section=demo&subsection=voodoo)
Awesome Spots! I'm feeling much better now! :thumbsup:

[apothecary]

I see it happening just a tad different due to the heart sticker that was put on her mouth. I think that she hauled Caylee off that night just exactly as you described, took her to a remote place and then wrapped the duct tape around her head a few times (I do agree Caylee must have been crying) very purposefully, not in the heat of passion, panic or lack of being able to handle it, but with spite and malice against Caylee and Cindy, wrapped the tape around her mouth and nose and stood there and watched this kid kicking and struggling for air until she succumbed. I think that this was building up inside Casey for a long time, that she resented this baby, was jealous of this baby and was sick and tired of being tied down with this baby. I think it was intentional and very well thought out. The sticker imho was a little jab at Caylee.
OMG Reading that took my breath away.

[Unleashed]

I know. I saw the video. Just saying that just because some former jail inmate said it does not necessarily make it so. I thought her story sounded implausible. Until it's proven true, I'll just consider it a rumor (or gossip).

ITA
She was just too pat. A classic case of a liar giving TMI, in my opinion.

[Oregongal]

This same thought gnawed at me all afternoon. When I heard there were MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DUCT TAPE, I thought to myself, she ripped a piece off, looked at Caylee, put it on, and then picked up the roll of duct tape, and ripped off another.. That is the most horrible, horrific thought.

But to top it all off, what is the most TWISTED THING THAT SHE DOES NEXT, is puts a heart sticker directly over the mouth. A heart sticker. WTH is she thinking when she does that? I can't even begin to imagine. Was it a heinous game that went astray? Look Caylee I just put a heart sticker over your mouth. Look in the mirror honey. Isn't that funny?

Sure, they're have been more horrific twisted crimes in America. Dalmer comes to mind. Couey. This one is equally as twisted. I have no doubt of the guilt of the PRP. I hope she never gets it out of her mind that frightened look in the eyes of her poor defenseless daughter.

She deserves to die the same way. An eye for an eye.

I'm right there with you DT! My bolding especially tells of why I think Casey deserves to die.
Too bad they don't take special requests at the execution....mine would be to give her a chance to say her last words....tape her mouth with duct tape and place a nice big heart sticker over the mouth area.
Caylee didn't have a chance to speak or cry out, she was silenced in the most horrible way and by the one person she should have been able to count on to love her, protect her and raise her into adulthood.
She didn't have any of that, she didn't have a chance to speak any last words....why should Casey?

[spiritwolf46]

Good night all. Have a great nights and sleep knowing that Caylee is in heaven and nothing bad will ever happen to her again.

:wub:

[Oregongal]

I have always believed God intervenes and doesn't let a child feel the pain we think they may feel....

I also believe this kitty. I also believe that the perpetrator of a horrible crime like this will be shown and be made to feel exactly what the victim of their crime would have felt, if the Lord didn't step in.
Casey and all the other perps out there will one day stand before God.
This is when they will experience the horrors of their deeds.

[KittyMom]

I have to wonder how Casey was able to put more than one piece of tape around Caylee's head? I would think that Caylee would be struggling to get the tape off. I guess its possible that with it in her hair and maybe pulled really tight she just wasn't able to get it off before her mother completely covered her mouth and nose. Anyway, horrible!

I have to wonder if Caylee were crying in Casey's room the night of the 15th and suddenly went quiet and C & G knew and never bothered to check to see why she stopped crying so suddenly.

Casey is so screwed. Those attys better start helping her understand what shakey ground she's standing on.

[101Spots]

If there is this wonderful place where Caylee is chasing butterflies or whatever and it is so much better than here, why would we want to punish Casey for sending her there? Shouldn't we congratulate her for sending her daughter to all this love and peace? Why wouldn't we all just commit suicide so we can be carefree and chase butterflies and look down on earth and be glad we weren't there? This is a lovely myth and I suppose it gives comfort to those who believe it. But it is just superstition.

Caylee is dead. Nothing is left. She is not in a "Better place." She is in no place. The only justice her memory will have is here on earth, if there is justice.

<applause icon>

[kitty1182]

I also believe this kitty. I also believe that the perpetrator of a horrible crime like this will be shown and be made to feel exactly what the victim of their crime would have felt, if the Lord didn't step in.
Casey and all the other perps out there will one day stand before God.
This is when they will experience the horrors of their deeds.



Amen......

[summer4meplz]

O/T: isn't Jean Casarez a breath of fresh air when she's sitting in for Nancy Grace?

jmo

I like her too and Beth....they are always professional, never rude or melodramatic......

[kitty1182]

Good night all. Have a great nights and sleep knowing that Caylee is in heaven and nothing bad will ever happen to her again.

:wub:

good night..:smile:

[My Gal Sal]

I'm right there with you DT! My bolding especially tells of why I think Casey deserves to die.
Too bad they don't take special requests at the execution....mine would be to give her a chance to say her last words....tape her mouth with duct tape and place a nice big heart sticker over the mouth area.
Caylee didn't have a chance to speak or cry out, she was silenced in the most horrible way and by the one person she should have been able to count on to love her, protect her and raise her into adulthood.
She didn't have any of that, she didn't have a chance to speak any last words....why should Casey?

While I agree she deserves to die and I have no problem with the death penalty. This monster deserves to rot in a jail with the general population. I believe that this punishment would be much worse than death.
I want to see Big Bertha make her pay.

[Sweetly]

I'm right there with you DT! My bolding especially tells of why I think Casey deserves to die.
Too bad they don't take special requests at the execution....mine would be to give her a chance to say her last words....tape her mouth with duct tape and place a nice big heart sticker over the mouth area.
Caylee didn't have a chance to speak or cry out, she was silenced in the most horrible way and by the one person she should have been able to count on to love her, protect her and raise her into adulthood.
She didn't have any of that, she didn't have a chance to speak any last words....why should Casey?

Well hello, Everyone! Been a long time since Ive been here! Yup, it's me the "NEW thread Queen!" =)
WOW, WOW, AND JUST WOW!!!! Just finished reading the autopsy reports, yup all a them. I think Casey lured Caylee into the trunk and then smothered her, putting the tape over her baby sweet nose n mouth n left her in the trunk to die and rot, til Casey could find a disposal site!.(Thus the smell and proof of decomp in the trunk).
I am not a death penaly person. I play it situation by situation but...
IF THERE EVER, IN ALL OF HISTORY, WAS A CASE DEEMED "WORTH OF THE DEATH PENALTY", IT'S THIS ONE!!! She deserves to be dragged thru the streets on the back of a rope, tied to a horse, IMO!!!!!!! She and her entire family, and I use that term lightly, make me so ill I can hardly stand it. I am so sick of their whinine, lies, mistruths, halftruths, tele appearances, etc., I could scream.
All I can see now is baby Caylee's little face, frightened beyond words, and I WANT FULL ON JUSTICE!!! :cursing:

PS, so good to see u all again... Sorry, just had to vent!!

[kanzz]

Did anybody else catch in the report today that some fine sand was found in the laundry bag found with the body? I've always believed Casey drowned Caylee in the family pool and would have either drugged her or taped her mouth to keep her quiet until it was over. She'd probably have laid the wet body down in the yard at some point afterward while she went to get trash bags & the laundry bag to hide the body in. Didn't Caylee have a sandbox in the yard?

"The inner aspect of the cranial cavity is examined with light and reveals sandy dirt..."
[ http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589383.pdf pg 8 ]

Makes me think the sand was indigenous to the area.

[forensicsgal]

I think the Anthony's and Conway attempted to have the autopsy sealed because they simply needed something to do and wanted some drama.

Cindy sure can look like a victim when she wants to. Head down, and shaking. Why didn't she jump up and scold the Judge, like we've seen her do to Morgan and company?

she won't get away with doing that during the trial either. They need to stay home.

[Oregongal]

Hi sweetie!

It is depressing, isn't it? We have heard most of it, but when it is in writing, then it sure puts things into a deep, dark perspective.

Hi back darlin! :wub:

Yes, it is depressing to see these official writen words.
It does put things into a deep, dark perspective when we see in those official words more to what we have seen already. Yes, we knew about the duct tape, but didn't know it was 3-4 pieces of duct tape. We also didn't know till now, that that tape also covered her little nose.
We didn't know how it was put on that little face with enough force that it attached to the hair so solidly and kept the mandible in place, even thru decomp and the connective tissue that normally hold that in place was gone, yet that mandible stayed in place. This is what I call Divine intervention.
It also speaks of rage and hate.
As someone, sorry can't remember who, said...this release of the autopsy is a 'turning point'.
Not only for us, but for the defense and the Ant's.
God only knows what will come in the next few days in regard to any reaction from the Ant's and JB.

[Oregongal]

Good night all. Have a great nights and sleep knowing that Caylee is in heaven and nothing bad will ever happen to her again.
:wub:

Good night spirit, sleep well and ditto my bold.
:wub:

[Dick Tracy]

While I agree she deserves to die and I have no problem with the death penalty. This monster deserves to rot in a jail with the general population. I believe that this punishment would be much worse than death.
I want to see Big Bertha make her pay.


Big Bertha? Oh My... I couldn't agree more.

There is nothing like the fear of the likelihood of something very bad happening to you.

Something more like putting her on death row, and then not letting her know the date of execution. It could happen at any time Casey.

[denjet]

Well hello, Everyone! Been a long time since Ive been here! Yup, it's me the "NEW thread Queen!" =)
WOW, WOW, AND JUST WOW!!!! Just finished reading the autopsy reports, yup all a them. I think Casey lured Caylee into the trunk and then smothered her, putting the tape over her baby sweet nose n mouth n left her in the trunk to die and rot, til Casey could find a disposal site!.(Thus the smell and proof of decomp in the trunk).
I am not a death penaly person. I play it situation by situation but...
IF THERE EVER, IN ALL OF HISTORY, WAS A CASE DEEMED "WORTH OF THE DEATH PENALTY", IT'S THIS ONE!!! She deserves to be dragged thru the streets on the back of a rope, tied to a horse, IMO!!!!!!! She and her entire family, and I use that term lightly, make me so ill I can hardly stand it. I am so sick of their whinine, lies, mistruths, halftruths, tele appearances, etc., I could scream.
All I can see now is baby Caylee's little face, frightened beyond words, and I WANT FULL ON JUSTICE!!! :cursing:

PS, so good to see u all again... Sorry, just had to vent!!
Ya, what she said! Vent on ... couldn't agree with you more! A jury will agree with it too and Caylee will have justice ... but I'm with you, I say duct tape KC, bind her hands and feet and throw her in the same trunk she threw Caylee in and leave it in the Florida sun !! That, to me, would be justice :cursing:
Hi Sweet! :wink:

[FallenAngel♥]

How can Brad get on tv and say there was NO hair and that people were lying about it when the autopsy report clearly talks about the hair?

[Dick Tracy]

Well hello, Everyone! Been a long time since Ive been here! Yup, it's me the "NEW thread Queen!" =)
WOW, WOW, AND JUST WOW!!!! Just finished reading the autopsy reports, yup all a them. I think Casey lured Caylee into the trunk and then smothered her, putting the tape over her baby sweet nose n mouth n left her in the trunk to die and rot, til Casey could find a disposal site!.(Thus the smell and proof of decomp in the trunk).
I am not a death penaly person. I play it situation by situation but...
IF THERE EVER, IN ALL OF HISTORY, WAS A CASE DEEMED "WORTH OF THE DEATH PENALTY", IT'S THIS ONE!!! She deserves to be dragged thru the streets on the back of a rope, tied to a horse, IMO!!!!!!! She and her entire family, and I use that term lightly, make me so ill I can hardly stand it. I am so sick of their whinine, lies, mistruths, halftruths, tele appearances, etc., I could scream.
All I can see now is baby Caylee's little face, frightened beyond words, and I WANT FULL ON JUSTICE!!! :cursing:

PS, so good to see u all again... Sorry, just had to vent!!

No wonder the Anthony's didn't want this to come out. I know the "we are innocent until proven guilty", but man oh man, this is not rocket science.

And she stated she wouldn't get tricked into a confession. That just makes me ROAR with laughter.

She's a con, a liar, a thief, too cute for her own good murderer.

[101Spots]

How can Brad get on tv and say there was NO hair and that people were lying about it when the autopsy report clearly talks about the hair?

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

[Sweetly]

Ya, what she said! Vent on ... couldn't agree with you more! A jury will agree with it too and Caylee will have justice ... but I'm with you, I say duct tape KC, bind her hands and feet and throw her in the same trunk she threw Caylee in and leave it in the Florida sun !! That, to me, would be justice
Hi Sweet!

OHHHHH, another brilliant idea!!! I am just livid after reading what all she did to her!! I was just amazed at the completely THOROUGH JOB the OC did on this case!! This OC just simply ROCKS!! They went over the dump site with a fine toothed comb, and then some!! I believe because of this, Casey doesn't stand a chance in Hell of gettin OFF on this!!!!!!!! I swear, if she does, there will be riots, something near the likes of the OJ Verdict riots here in Cali, at his not guilty verdict!!!
This evil soul Casey, needs to be dealt with fiercely and with due justice for OUR baby girl!! And ya, put her in a cell WITH Big Bertha while she waits her "LAWFULl" justice! Oh, I am just so mad over all this. The autopsy reports just really hit me hard, as I'm sure it did all of you! :cursing: :sneaky:

[Sweetly]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

This is so dang funny!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL Ain't it the truth tho!!! Still lauging. SO aptly put, my dear! :tonguewag:

[need2no]

Unless casey just so happened to have duct tape in her car for some unknown reason, or stopped somewhere that evening to purchase (coincidentally) this unusual brand of duct tape with the Henkel brand name & logo posted on it, I'm inclined to think she murdered Caylee in the Anthony home on the 15th. I speculated early in this case that following the huge fight (verbal & physical) between casey and Cindy, that Cindy in frustration retreated to her room, (& her pills), and casey and Caylee went to 'their' room. At this point Caylee must have been terribly upset and crying for grandma as she witnessed casey's state of out of control venom, fury and explosive anger. I think the combination of Caylee crying & perhaps calling out for grandma, and Cindy walking away from casey after making threats that this time she had 'the goods' on her, and SHE WOULD take Caylee from her, pushed casey off the deep end. The result was she was backed into a corner she couldn't get out of and therefore wanted to get revenge, and Caylee was her means of doing so. Could be casey and (now deceased) Caylee were still at home when George returned from work, but they left as soon as casey was confident George had gone to sleep....and after casey affixed the heart sticker (she had in her bedroom) to Caylee's mouth. Mommie loves you Caylee....but I told you to SHUT UP and stop asking for grandma!!!

I also think it's possible casey left Caylee in the backyard that night while she went off to try and figure out what to do with Caylee's body, and dealt with that on the 16th after George went to work. Perhaps the phone calls were to assure herself that neither G or C had a clue about what happened to Caylee the previous night.

[Oregongal]

Well hello, Everyone! Been a long time since Ive been here! Yup, it's me the "NEW thread Queen!" =)
WOW, WOW, AND JUST WOW!!!! Just finished reading the autopsy reports, yup all a them. I think Casey lured Caylee into the trunk and then smothered her, putting the tape over her baby sweet nose n mouth n left her in the trunk to die and rot, til Casey could find a disposal site!.(Thus the smell and proof of decomp in the trunk).
I am not a death penaly person. I play it situation by situation but...
IF THERE EVER, IN ALL OF HISTORY, WAS A CASE DEEMED "WORTH OF THE DEATH PENALTY", IT'S THIS ONE!!! She deserves to be dragged thru the streets on the back of a rope, tied to a horse, IMO!!!!!!! She and her entire family, and I use that term lightly, make me so ill I can hardly stand it. I am so sick of their whinine, lies, mistruths, halftruths, tele appearances, etc., I could scream.
All I can see now is baby Caylee's little face, frightened beyond words, and I WANT FULL ON JUSTICE!!! :cursing:

PS, so good to see u all again... Sorry, just had to vent!!

Great to see you sweetly! :wub:
Love your post (vent), got anymore you need to let out?
:biggrin:

[101Spots]

Great to see you sweetly! :wub:
Love your post (vent), got anymore you need to let out?
:biggrin:

TAKE COVER!! She's a-gettin' ready to blow!!!!

[denjet]

How can Brad get on tv and say there was NO hair and that people were lying about it when the autopsy report clearly talks about the hair?
Both Brad and the Ants lied about a lot of things and now there's proof ... I think this report is equally as discrimenting to KC AND the Ants ... it exposes a lot of their lies!

And then Baez tells the news, "...they don't know how Caylee Anthony died so um it really doesn't say a whole lot other than a little bit of speculation here and there, um, we're not too concerned with it whatsoever ..." what????? All the motions and delays ... over something they're not concerned about? Is he for real?

I get so confused from day to day on who I despise the most ... :confused:

[FallenAngel♥]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

LOL well if that's the case thank God i'm not a lawyer because i like to keep things real.

Seriously does he know how dumb that makes him look?

[Deannalynn]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

Prosecutors arrive fit and ready with the morals and ethics, however:biggrinjester:

[FallenAngel♥]

Both Brad and the Ants lied about a lot of things and now there's proof ... I think this report is equally as discrimenting to KC AND the Ants ... it exposes a lot of their lies!

And then Baez tells the news, "...they don't know how Caylee Anthony died so um it really doesn't say a whole lot other than a little bit of speculation here and there, um, we're not too concerned with it whatsoever ..." what????? All the motions and delays ... over something they're not concerned about? Is he for real?

I get so confused from day to day on who I despise the most ... :confused:

IMO Baez isn't even qualified to be on this case.

[Lavinia]

"The inner aspect of the cranial cavity is examined with light and reveals sandy dirt..."
[ http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47589383.pdf pg 8 ]

Makes me think the sand was indigenous to the area.

I think so too. kanzz. That area has a high concentration of granite and will have abundant sand almost anywhere because of that. The sand was most likely left behind due to it's weight and size. It just sank to the bottom when other, lighter, smaller types of "dirt" was washed away with the water. IMO.

[Pruddennce]

Yes, I agree - the tattoo is very damning to Casey's defense. Looks like the prosecution is covering all their bases. :thumbsup:

How can any normal person get past her doing this? The jurors will be wondering - How could Casey bring herself to do such a thing? Whether she thought Caylee had been kidnapped.....or even after murdering Caylee.....how could she??? :angry:

Miami,

that was just ONE act of total disregard. there was a myriad of events she was participating in for PLEASURE.....and witness after witness who will testify as to her demeanor.

her parents on LKL: he mentions her out dancing friday nite following the 'abduction'.

C. ANTHONY: That's one evening.

KING: One evening. That's a lot, one evening.

C. ANTHONY: One evening. Again, who knows? She could have been in shock. I don't know. You know?

KING: Can you ask her? Casey, why were you out dancing?

C. ANTHONY: She was there, she said, looking for clues and people that could help her find Caylee?

HA! there it is people. a psychopath excusing the behaviour of another psychopath. ONE NITE is one too many with regard to the alleged 'tragedy' that Casey was supposedly 'dealing' with....yes, ladies and gentleman, Casey 'COULD HAVE BEEN IN SHOCK'.

the jury is not going to be able to get past 31 days of total disregard coupled with her movements and behaviour during that period. witnesess will attest to her 'normal behaviour', where she was, what she was participating in AND most importantly, her shameless brag that her daughter was with her nanny at various 'fun locations'.

it will be an impossible task to sway a jury into believing she was 'in shock' or any other level of emotion that prevented her from reporting her daughter kidnapped. too many witnesses and of course, other pieces of evidence that will tie her to this crime, direct and/or CE.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Oregongal]

How can Brad get on tv and say there was NO hair and that people were lying about it when the autopsy report clearly talks about the hair?

Hmmmmmm, Angel.....because he's been drinking the Anthony kool-aid?
Or perhaps he has no ethics, morals and that's why he's been able to hang with the Ant's this long?
Because he's in complete denial? :confused: this is just one thing to throw out there...doesn't really fit, but, ya never know what hold the Ant's have over him. They are all experts in denial, diversion and manipulation techniques. Looks to me, bottom line, it's because he doesn't have any more integrity than the Ant's?

[101Spots]

Both Brad and the Ants lied about a lot of things and now there's proof ... I think this report is equally as discrimenting to KC AND the Ants ... it exposes a lot of their lies!

And then Baez tells the news, "...they don't know how Caylee Anthony died so um it really doesn't say a whole lot other than a little bit of speculation here and there, um, we're not too concerned with it whatsoever ..." what????? All the motions and delays ... over something they're not concerned about? Is he for real?

I get so confused from day to day on who I despise the most ... :confused:

Here. Take my hand and let me guide you.

First, we hate the defense lawyers, Casey, Cindy and George.

Second, we hate....... Jeez, there's nobody left.

Consider all of them as #1. That will save you from being so confused.

[Sweetly]

Great to see you sweetly! :wub:
Love your post (vent), got anymore you need to let out?
:biggrin:

LOL, sure, plenty!!! :w00t: Wasnt the night of the Cindy choking the night we believe Caylee was killed, the night Casey called Toni from some parking lot n they were on the phone for hours? I believe she stormed outta da house that very night, drove around fuming, saw a half empty parking lot, pulled in n tried to call Toni and all the while, Caylee is in the back seat in her car seat, extremely upset, crying, calling for grandma, driving Casey nutzzz! Casey got fed up, tricked Caylee into the trunk n there u have it. Silence for Casey and sadly for our lil Caylee, also. She then gets back in the car and makes calls to Toni and I believe they talked til the wee hours of the morning that night, all the while, Caylee was starting to decompose in the trunk, thus the smell several days later, til she dumped her in the woods.

[Deannalynn]

Both Brad and the Ants lied about a lot of things and now there's proof ... I think this report is equally as discrimenting to KC AND the Ants ... it exposes a lot of their lies!

And then Baez tells the news, "...they don't know how Caylee Anthony died so um it really doesn't say a whole lot other than a little bit of speculation here and there, um, we're not too concerned with it whatsoever ..." what????? All the motions and delays ... over something they're not concerned about? Is he for real?

I get so confused from day to day on who I despise the most ... :confused:

Now that the autopsy report is out for everyone to read and understand, I would like to see Brad, Cindy and George revisit LKL.
Lets see how many more talk show they agree to now.:sneaky:

[kanzz]

Unless casey just so happened to have duct tape in her car for some unknown reason, or stopped somewhere that evening to purchase (coincidentally) this unusual brand of duct tape with the Henkel brand name & logo posted on it, I'm inclined to think she murdered Caylee in the Anthony home on the 15th. I speculated early in this case that following the huge fight (verbal & physical) between casey and Cindy, that Cindy in frustration retreated to her room, (& her pills), and casey and Caylee went to 'their' room. At this point Caylee must have been terribly upset and crying for grandma as she witnessed casey's state of out of control venom, fury and explosive anger. I think the combination of Caylee crying & perhaps calling out for grandma, and Cindy walking away from casey after making threats that this time she had 'the goods' on her, and SHE WOULD take Caylee from her, pushed casey off the deep end. The result was she was backed into a corner she couldn't get out of and therefore wanted to get revenge, and Caylee was her means of doing so. Could be casey and (now deceased) Caylee were still at home when George returned from work, but they left as soon as casey was confident George had gone to sleep....and after casey affixed the heart sticker (she had in her bedroom) to Caylee's mouth. Mommie loves you Caylee....but I told you to SHUT UP and stop asking for grandma!!!

I also think it's possible casey left Caylee in the backyard that night while she went off to try and figure out what to do with Caylee's body, and dealt with that on the 16th after George went to work. Perhaps the phone calls were to assure herself that neither G or C had a clue about what happened to Caylee the previous night.

wow. I just got a chill reading your post as this is EXACTLY what I've been thinking for a very long time now.

[apothecary]

That duct tape evidence hit me hard.I was still entertaining the thought that maybe this was an accident...Very distant thought but still a remote possibility.Not any more.This was deliberate.How could Casey say that she wanted to hold her head high and that she had nothing to be ashamed about..or some similar words.I am thoroughly choked up here and am going to bed with a heavy heart and a deep lump in my throat.Tears for Caylee.

[My Gal Sal]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

I understand your comments. However, I do believe that there are many ethical lawyers and judges. We just happen to be seeing the 'bottom of the barrel' in this case. There are people in all professions that will do anything for a 'buck' and the defense in the Anthony case is an example.
But remember Judge Strickland, Linda Drane Burdick..... Much kudos to them.

Jose and Brad are an anomaly and will do 'anything' to further their careers.

[Oregongal]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

:lol: Spots!!!
You just wrote in a most entertaining and hilareous way what I just wrote.
Thank you for the laugh, I needed it.
:wub:

[kanzz]

I've held onto what LE said from the day they arrested this OC - they knew she acted alone, and they knew in was not an accident. They're right.

-

Sometimes, when things are really bugging me and I'm finding myself worried or upset in this life, I have to sit myself down and ask myself - OK, where's the silver lining in this one?

I was surprised that I had to do that tonight because I don't often let the woes of strangers get to me much.

So - after a few minutes of searching for the answer to that question, I came to my conclusion. It makes me feel better. I hope it will help some of you, too:

The Silver Lining today - for Caylee Marie - is the reports give me reason to believe the prosecution will win.


Night all.

[Sweetly]

Here. Take my hand and let me guide you.

First, we hate the defense lawyers, Casey, Cindy and George.

Second, we hate....... Jeez, there's nobody left.

Consider all of them as #1. That will save you from being so confused.

OMG, ROTFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tonguewag:

[seeing_eye]

When you get a law degree, you also get this special pair of rose-colored glasses........

Oh, and you get a *free* surgical procedure that removes your morals and ethics. A moralectomy and ethicectomy - two for the price of one. This is replaced by walletitis - an uncontrollable urge to get money.

No offense to our lawyers here.

Wow, if I was a lawyer, I'd sure be offended. I realize lawyers have a bad reputation, and no doubt many deserve it, but it's never a good idea to paint a whole group of people with one fell brush stroke. JMO

[101Spots]

I understand your comments. However, I do believe that there are many ethical lawyers and judges. We just happen to be seeing the 'bottom of the barrel' in this case. There are people in all professions that will do anything for a 'buck' and the defense in the Anthony case is an example.
But remember Judge Strickland, Linda Drane Burdick..... Much kudos to them.

Jose and Brad are an anomaly and will do 'anything' to further their careers.

Jose and Brad are defense attorneys, not anomalies.

Stan is a judge and LDB is a prosecution attorney.

They each made their choices, and my reasons stand.

Criminal attorney = [expletive deleted]

[Sweetly]

I understand your comments. However, I do believe that there are many ethical lawyers and judges. We just happen to be seeing the 'bottom of the barrel' in this case. There are people in all professions that will do anything for a 'buck' and the defense in the Anthony case is an example.
But remember Judge Strickland, Linda Drane Burdick..... Much kudos to them.

Jose and Brad are an anomaly and will do 'anything' to further their careers.

Calms down just for a minute n says, very well put. Yes, Judge Stirckland is awesome. He just has to be over this trial when it comes to pass! He just has to!!!

[101Spots]

Wow, if I was a lawyer, I'd sure be offended. I realize lawyers have a bad reputation, and no doubt many deserve it, but it's never a good idea to paint a whole group of people with one fell brush stroke. JMO

Oh, please - it's a silly comment with perhaps a dollop of truth. I in no way believe this is etched in granite - think of lawyer jokes that apply to some, do not apply to others, but are funny as heck.

But you have to admit, it does seem to apply to the lawyers in this case.

[Sweetly]

I've held onto what LE said from the day they arrested this OC - they knew she acted alone, and they knew in was not an accident. They're right.

-

Sometimes, when things are really bugging me and I'm finding myself worried or upset in this life, I have to sit myself down and ask myself - OK, where's the silver lining in this one?

I was surprised that I had to do that tonight because I don't often let the woes of strangers get to me much.

So - after a few minutes of searching for the answer to that question, I came to my conclusion. It makes me feel better. I hope it will help some of you, too:

The Silver Lining today - for Caylee Marie - is the reports give me reason to believe the prosecution will win.


Night all.

Ohhhh, AMEN TO THAT, girlfriend. Night hon!

[denjet]

Here. Take my hand and let me guide you.

First, we hate the defense lawyers, Casey, Cindy and George.

Second, we hate....... Jeez, there's nobody left.

Consider all of them as #1. That will save you from being so confused.
Thanks Spots! I feel much better :biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

Well, as hard as her family and their attorneys fought against its release, and as much spin as they've tried to apply for the last year, much of what Caylee went through in her final few moments on this earth is now known.

It's about damn time the focus shifted for a moment to the tiny victim and away from the accused and her enablers.

She wasn't protected in life. She shouldn't be ignored in death.

Good-night, everyone.

:rose: Rest in peace, little Caylee :rose:

[summer4meplz]

Now that the autopsy report is out for everyone to read and understand, I would like to see Brad, Cindy and George revisit LKL.
Lets see how many more talk show they agree to now.:sneaky:

I just don't understand why ANY shows even have them on....:cursing:

[My Gal Sal]

Jose and Brad are defense attorneys, not anomalies.

Stan is a judge and LDB is a prosecution attorney.

They each made their choices, and my reasons stand.

Criminal attorney = [expletive deleted]

I apologize if I offended you but I understood your first comment to mena that you disliked all lawyers. Are you now saying you dislike only Criminal attourneys.
I don't quite understand why you are picking on me. I happen to have a brother-in-law who is a really great family court judge.

[Sweetly]

Thanks Spots! I feel much better :biggrin:

Ok, gonna pop outta here for the night. Hugs to all n sweet dreams. In my best Schwartzeneger voice I say, "I'll be back"! Nighters!
JUSTICE FOR OUR BABY GIRL!! =)

[Oregongal]

OHHHHH, another brilliant idea!!! I am just livid after reading what all she did to her!! I was just amazed at the completely THOROUGH JOB the OC did on this case!! This OC just simply ROCKS!! They went over the dump site with a fine toothed comb, and then some!! I believe because of this, Casey doesn't stand a chance in Hell of gettin OFF on this!!!!!!!! I swear, if she does, there will be riots, something near the likes of the OJ Verdict riots here in Cali, at his not guilty verdict!!!
This evil soul Casey, needs to be dealt with fiercely and with due justice for OUR baby girl!! And ya, put her in a cell WITH Big Bertha while she waits her "LAWFULl" justice! Oh, I am just so mad over all this. The autopsy reports just really hit me hard, as I'm sure it did all of you! :cursing: :sneaky:

My bold...yes, it has mad me angry as well as so sad.
I'm finding my emotions all over the place with report. Like you sweetly, I could spit nails and keep wanting to cry out...Casey must die!
I'm also so very, very sad to finally know the facts.
I do keep thinking tho, you, me and everyone else here is here for Caylee and what we all are feeling and expressing tonight is pretty wonderful. We are the only ones who are feeling for Caylee.
We have and continue to be here, we show our interest, our love of Caylee each and every day.
I'm so glad to be part of a group that have many opinions, lots of emotions, tons of ideas...but most of all, we are all here for Caylee.
Today was hard because of that. The autopsy report revealed things we didn't know, expanded on things we did.
With our love for Caylee and our hopes and prayers for her justice we have all in some way been affected by this report.
:wub: to all of you.

I wonder what the Ant's are thinking and feeling tonight?

[Daffodil]

Ohhhh, AMEN TO THAT, girlfriend. Night hon!



And that right will win over wrong. Thanks for sharing this thought. Yes, we do need to stop and think what the silver lining is at times. When I read your words, I thought that there could not be any silver lining in this case. And then you pleasantly proved me wrong.

[Deannalynn]

Good evening all.
Graveyard shift reporting for duty, here.
I watched the hearing today and was so annoyed at the way Cindy and George behaved. The phoniness, the fake tears and crying out in front of the Judge, Cindy sitting back there laughing with the person sitting next to her and as soon as the Judge walked out her whole demeanor changed to a grieving Grandmother.
What really burned my azz was when she was listening to Strickland's ruling and she sat there shaking her head no until she realized where the camera's were located. She had to get her face all in there to show how disgusted she was.

Is it true Baby George walked out of the courtroom before Judge Strickland finished up? What a baby who didn't get his way as he was standing up there whining to the Judge. I really think the Anthony's thought they were going to pull one over on the good Judge.

If you can't dazzle them with Brilliance, baffle them with BS.

Nice try Cindy and George. Brad is getting worse. Listening to the press conference thereafter was an Anthony speech! He knows better but went right along with them two evil do'ers...:glare:

[Sweetly]

My bold...yes, it has mad me angry as well as so sad.
I'm finding my emotions all over the place with report. Like you sweetly, I could spit nails and keep wanting to cry out...Casey must die!
I'm also so very, very sad to finally know the facts.
I do keep thinking tho, you, me and everyone else here is here for Caylee and what we all are feeling and expressing tonight is pretty wonderful. We are the only ones who are feeling for Caylee.
We have and continue to be here, we show our interest, our love of Caylee each and every day.
I'm so glad to be part of a group that have many opinions, lots of emotions, tons of ideas...but most of all, we are all here for Caylee.
Today was hard because of that. The autopsy report revealed things we didn't know, expanded on things we did.
With our love for Caylee and our hopes and prayers for her justice we have all in some way been affected by this report.
:wub: to all of you.

I wonder what the Ant's are thinking and feeling tonight?

Amen to this hon and I hope the Ant's are home, throwing up their proverbial guts!! (And their attorney and Casey's too!) Night hon!

[101Spots]

I apologize if I offended you but I understood your first comment to mena that you disliked all lawyers. Are you now saying you dislike only Criminal attourneys.
I don't quite understand why you are picking on me. I happen to have a brother-in-law who is a really great family court judge.

I certainly do not mean to pick on you, or on lawyers in general. I was just trying (and failing) to be silly. I respect lawyers, but I have less respect for defense lawyers as they seem to spin the facts with one foot in fantasyland. <a generalization> This case happens to include several defense lawyers who appear to be ethically and morally bankrupt.

I'll stop with the lawyer jokes/comments. Please accept my apology if I offended you/yours and realize that I meant nothing personal whatsoever.

[Pruddennce]

How can Brad get on tv and say there was NO hair and that people were lying about it when the autopsy report clearly talks about the hair?

because Cindy told him to lie.

he is doing the devil's bidding, and if he falters, she steps in and humiliates him: for instance the interview with LKL discussing the diary. Cindy and Brad both give a different date. (what else is new)....

it wasnt leaked, it was in the doc dump. they cant get it thru their brains that the Sunshine Law is a LAW, they call it a 'leak'...good grief.

Cindy telling the world that their esteemed attorney cant get his facts straight: isnt he supposed to be telling THEM to keep their mouths shut? why on earth does he appear with them in public if he cant control them? NeJame got their # and bailed.....not BC.....he keeps duh'ing along......

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

KING: Why would the prosecutor issue something that was two years before the baby was born?

CONWAY: Because it was released with the discovery.

C. ANTHONY: No, it wasn't, Brad. It wasn't. Let me explain. The prosecutor didn't have that diary, didn't look at the diary. We had it. Someone at the Sheriff's department took a picture of the diary while they were in our house. We have possession of the diary. And leaked it to the media, and the media ran with it.

according to BC, the media also ran with this:

CONWAY: We know that there was no flesh and no hair attached to the -- to the duct tape, yet that's what goes out in the media and that's what people assume to be true. And that's the unfair part, is that this -- this young lady has not had her opportunity in court, yet -- yet people have drawn conclusions from discovery that's out there.

"WE" know???? Its obvious BC doesnt know. and today he says in a presser the anthonys have not read the autopsy. but here he sits saying what "WE" know about the autopsy prior to it being released.

interesting. he has lost his esquire skills...makes me wonder if he ever really had any?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[My Gal Sal]

I certainly do not mean to pick on you, or on lawyers in general. I was just trying (and failing) to be silly. I respect lawyers, but I have less respect for defense lawyers as they seem to spin the facts with one foot in fantasyland. <a generalization> This case happens to include several defense lawyers who appear to be ethically and morally bankrupt.

I'll stop with the lawyer jokes/comments. Please accept my apology if I offended you/yours and realize that I meant nothing personal whatsoever.

Thanks Spots... I get it now!... I apologize for being so sensitive.... This whole day of duct tape evidence has been verry sad for me.
:wub:

[101Spots]

because Cindy told him to lie.

he is doing the devil's bidding, and if he falters, she steps in and humiliates him: for instance the interview with LKL discussing the diary. Cindy and Brad both give a different date. (what else is new)....

it wasnt leaked, it was in the doc dump. they cant get it thru their brains that the Sunshine Law is a LAW, they call it a 'leak'...good grief.

Cindy telling the world that their esteemed attorney cant get his facts straight: isnt he supposed to be telling THEM to keep their mouths shut? why on earth does he appear with them in public if he cant control them? NeJame got their # and bailed.....not BC.....he keeps duh'ing along......

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

KING: Why would the prosecutor issue something that was two years before the baby was born?

CONWAY: Because it was released with the discovery.

C. ANTHONY: No, it wasn't, Brad. It wasn't. Let me explain. The prosecutor didn't have that diary, didn't look at the diary. We had it. Someone at the Sheriff's department took a picture of the diary while they were in our house. We have possession of the diary. And leaked it to the media, and the media ran with it.

according to BC, the media also ran with this:

CONWAY: We know that there was no flesh and no hair attached to the -- to the duct tape, yet that's what goes out in the media and that's what people assume to be true. And that's the unfair part, is that this -- this young lady has not had her opportunity in court, yet -- yet people have drawn conclusions from discovery that's out there.

"WE" know???? Its obvious BC doesnt know. and today he says in a presser the anthonys have not read the autopsy. but here he sits saying what "WE" know about the autopsy prior to it being released.

interesting. he has lost his esquire skills...makes me wonder if he ever really had any?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Ooooooooh, I promised I wouldn't.......

Dagnabbit.

[101Spots]

Four hours of sleep sounds good about now. See y'all tomorrow.

[Deannalynn]

Hi back darlin! :wub:

Yes, it is depressing to see these official writen words.
It does put things into a deep, dark perspective when we see in those official words more to what we have seen already. Yes, we knew about the duct tape, but didn't know it was 3-4 pieces of duct tape. We also didn't know till now, that that tape also covered her little nose.
We didn't know how it was put on that little face with enough force that it attached to the hair so solidly and kept the mandible in place, even thru decomp and the connective tissue that normally hold that in place was gone, yet that mandible stayed in place. This is what I call Divine intervention.
It also speaks of rage and hate.
As someone, sorry can't remember who, said...this release of the autopsy is a 'turning point'.
Not only for us, but for the defense and the Ant's.
God only knows what will come in the next few days in regard to any reaction from the Ant's and JB.

Baez was up and running his mouth today. For what, I couldn't figure it out.
The good Judge made his ruling and he had to stand there and go over what he had already discussed with the prosecution.
Does this mini lawyer know what the he77 he's doing on a case with this magnitude.
This trial will be interesting just watching him. He talks a lot but says nothing.:shrug:
jmo

[Sweetly]

because Cindy told him to lie.

he is doing the devil's bidding, and if he falters, she steps in and humiliates him: for instance the interview with LKL discussing the diary. Cindy and Brad both give a different date. (what else is new)....

it wasnt leaked, it was in the doc dump. they cant get it thru their brains that the Sunshine Law is a LAW, they call it a 'leak'...good grief.

Cindy telling the world that their esteemed attorney cant get his facts straight: isnt he supposed to be telling THEM to keep their mouths shut? why on earth does he appear with them in public if he cant control them? NeJame got their # and bailed.....not BC.....he keeps duh'ing along......

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html

KING: Why would the prosecutor issue something that was two years before the baby was born?

CONWAY: Because it was released with the discovery.

C. ANTHONY: No, it wasn't, Brad. It wasn't. Let me explain. The prosecutor didn't have that diary, didn't look at the diary. We had it. Someone at the Sheriff's department took a picture of the diary while they were in our house. We have possession of the diary. And leaked it to the media, and the media ran with it.

according to BC, the media also ran with this:

CONWAY: We know that there was no flesh and no hair attached to the -- to the duct tape, yet that's what goes out in the media and that's what people assume to be true. And that's the unfair part, is that this -- this young lady has not had her opportunity in court, yet -- yet people have drawn conclusions from discovery that's out there.

"WE" know???? Its obvious BC doesnt know. and today he says in a presser the anthonys have not read the autopsy. but here he sits saying what "WE" know about the autopsy prior to it being released.

interesting. he has lost his esquire skills...makes me wonder if he ever really had any?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Hi ya Pru!! :tonguewag: You are RIGHT ON, as usual! So good to be back! Thoughg I was off here but guess not just yet, lol! =)

[seeing_eye]

Oh, please - it's a silly comment with perhaps a dollop of truth. I in no way believe this is etched in granite - think of lawyer jokes that apply to some, do not apply to others, but are funny as heck.

But you have to admit, it does seem to apply to the lawyers in this case.

With the caliber of lawyers we've had to deal with in this case, I fully understand how you would get carried away with your feelings of them! They do tend to give all lawyers a bad name.

[Pruddennce]

Baez was up and running his mouth today. For what, I couldn't figure it out.
The good Judge made his ruling and he had to stand there and go over what he had already discussed with the prosecution.
Does this mini lawyer know what the he77 he's doing on a case with this magnitude.
This trial will be interesting just watching him. He talks a lot but says nothing.:shrug:
jmo

ridiculous...wasnt it......he attempts to 'gaslight' everyone...begins talking about the pictures they already AGREED were going to be excised from the report....

he causes me to stare endlessly....

what a buffoon.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[Pruddennce]

:seeya:Hi ya Pru!! :tonguewag: You are RIGHT ON, as usual! So good to be back! THough i was off here but guess not just yet, lol! =)

:seeya: !

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Mamie]

Picturing how it must have happened, I assume Casey taped Caylee's hands and ankles initially as well. When she was taping her mouth and nose and Caylee was beginning to struggle, I believe the Angels came and helped her by putting her in a trance like state to ease the horror to come. God would would have requested that.

That is what I want to believe.

Casey probably removed the tape from the ankles and hands to pack Poor Caylee in the bags.

I think she chloroformed her to make her sleep and then she ran the tape around her mouth and nose a few times. JMO

[Sweetly]

ridiculous...wasnt it......he attempts to 'gaslight' everyone...begins talking about the pictures they already AGREED were going to be excised from the report....

he causes me to stare endlessly....

what a buffoon.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

LOL ya, I'm surprised he doesn't get embarassed when he looks in the mirror every morning! He's a doofus! A bumbling doofus!

[norwood]

Liked that one of the talking heads as NG was coming on saying that if th Anthony's need to stop going on TV and talking.

Yes, I am just now seeing NG

[Sweetly]

Are there videos of today's hearings? If so, where do I find them? And, who all spoke to the judge, just George and Cindy? Thanks for the links to the videos of it in advance. I looked in Links but didn't see them there.

[need2no]

LOL ya, I'm surprised he doesn't get embarassed when he looks in the mirror every morning! He's a doofus! A bumbling doofus!

Speaking of looking in the mirror....it appears casey has been sharing her pork rinds with Jose :biggrin::

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/anthony-baezdiscussesreleaseofau-1.jpg

[seeing_eye]

George told the judge today that the release of the autopsy report would tarnish Caylee's memory. How could that possibly tarnish her memory?

[need2no]

Are there videos of today's hearings? If so, where do I find them? And, who all spoke to the judge, just George and Cindy? Thanks for the links to the videos of it in advance. I looked in Links but didn't see them there.

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

[Jayne]

Thank you "seeing eye"...

lawyer's do have a bad reputation, too often..and there are so many lawyer jokes I can even laugh at and tell.

but

You get nothing but a piece of paper that says "J.D."..means nothing to some people perhaps..but it is a Juris Doctorate..as good as a PhD..lots of hard work and time..it's NO JOKE..and I'm personally offended by those remarks.for me and my colleagues. I worked for a single woman attorney raising her two kids..and then I became one, too..still raising my child by myself. It's no picnic and nothing is ever guaranteed. But you abide by the ethics or risk losing your job, or being able to sleep at night. Just because an attorney gives his or her all to defend or prosecute does not make them slime or unethical...it means they are doing the job they "signed up for". You get that JD..then you have to pass a Bar.then you have to find a job that you can work at and keep. This is no rose coloured glasses...or surgical procedure. Some lawyers are Crooks..granted...but they all aren't...and this poster just disparaged a lot of upstanding people who really do want to make a difference and truly help people. Maybe s/he should take off the sunglasses and get a real look at the world. Sure there are slime attorneys..but there are slime parents and spouses too..don't you think? And, don't forget those "hired" experts.

Standing up for the lawyers I know..who are upstanding people..no matter which side they work on. It's a job that is too often "unrewarding"...it isn't all about money...just like teaching. It's the difference you can make in a person's life. Then you hear about the "lawyer bashing"..it's like bullying..behind the back...when you haven't got a clue as to what goes in to it.

jmo

J

Wow, if I was a lawyer, I'd sure be offended. I realize lawyers have a bad reputation, and no doubt many deserve it, but it's never a good idea to paint a whole group of people with one fell brush stroke. JMO

[Deannalynn]

Speaking of looking in the mirror....it appears casey has been sharing her pork rinds with Jose :biggrin::

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/anthony-baezdiscussesreleaseofau-1.jpg

:lol: Too funny, need2no.

[Dick Tracy]

ridiculous...wasnt it......he attempts to 'gaslight' everyone...begins talking about the pictures they already AGREED were going to be excised from the report....

he causes me to stare endlessly....

what a buffoon.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

A buffoon!!! I love it Pru.

The judge was walking out of the courtroom, and the Waterboy is objecting to the release.. Everyone is walking out, and wants to get THAT on the record.

I tell you what friend... This is going to be some incredible theatre once this trial starts. The PRP doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell once they seat a jury and they hear all the evidence against her.

And mommy and daddy can't help her anymore.

[Eagleeye]

Thank you "seeing eye"...

lawyer's do have a bad reputation, too often..and there are so many lawyer jokes I can even laugh at and tell.

but

You get nothing but a piece of paper that says "J.D."..means nothing to some people perhaps..but it is a Juris Doctorate..as good as a PhD..lots of hard work and time..it's NO JOKE..and I'm personally offended by those remarks.for me and my colleagues. I worked for a single woman attorney raising her two kids..and then I became one, too..still raising my child by myself. It's no picnic and nothing is ever guaranteed. But you abide by the ethics or risk losing your job, or being able to sleep at night. Just because an attorney gives his or her all to defend or prosecute does not make them slime or unethical...it means they are doing the job they "signed up for". You get that JD..then you have to pass a Bar.then you have to find a job that you can work at and keep. This is no rose coloured glasses...or surgical procedure. Some lawyers are Crooks..granted...but they all aren't...and this poster just disparaged a lot of upstanding people who really do want to make a difference and truly help people. Maybe s/he should take off the sunglasses and get a real look at the world. Sure there are slime attorneys..but there are slime parents and spouses too..don't you think? And, don't forget those "hired" experts.

Standing up for the lawyers I know..who are upstanding people..no matter which side they work on. It's a job that is too often "unrewarding"...it isn't all about money...just like teaching. It's the difference you can make in a person's life. Then you hear about the "lawyer bashing"..it's like bullying..behind the back...when you haven't got a clue as to what goes in to it.

jmo

J

Well said counselor, I just hope 101 Spots stayed up long enough to read your response. To paint all attorneys with the same brush in my opinion is an uneducated comment. I know of two other attorneys who post on this thread that I am sure will feel the same as you do and be offended as well.

[Jester]

Yes, *snort* they were looking for a "live caylee" under the playhouse.

Can you imagine what's going on over at the Anthonys den of horrors tonight? Spinning, twisting, yelling, screaming, blaming, conniving... oy.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/?action=view&current=Good_Housekeeping-2.jpg

[Oregongal]

LOL, sure, plenty!!! :w00t: Wasnt the night of the Cindy choking the night we believe Caylee was killed, the night Casey called Toni from some parking lot n they were on the phone for hours? I believe she stormed outta da house that very night, drove around fuming, saw a half empty parking lot, pulled in n tried to call Toni and all the while, Caylee is in the back seat in her car seat, extremely upset, crying, calling for grandma, driving Casey nutzzz! Casey got fed up, tricked Caylee into the trunk n there u have it. Silence for Casey and sadly for our lil Caylee, also. She then gets back in the car and makes calls to Toni and I believe they talked til the wee hours of the morning that night, all the while, Caylee was starting to decompose in the trunk, thus the smell several days later, til she dumped her in the woods.

I absolutely agree, I just posted above about the very same thing.

[Oregongal]

I keep falling behind.
Kitty Lily want out. Then she wants in. The puppy Dusty goes chasing after her until she rushes back outside again.
Now she wants back in but is afraid the puppy is waiting to get her.
In my next house, my wish is for a pet door.
:smile:

[seeing_eye]

Thank you "seeing eye"...

lawyer's do have a bad reputation, too often..and there are so many lawyer jokes I can even laugh at and tell.

but

You get nothing but a piece of paper that says "J.D."..means nothing to some people perhaps..but it is a Juris Doctorate..as good as a PhD..lots of hard work and time..it's NO JOKE..and I'm personally offended by those remarks.for me and my colleagues. I worked for a single woman attorney raising her two kids..and then I became one, too..still raising my child by myself. It's no picnic and nothing is ever guaranteed. But you abide by the ethics or risk losing your job, or being able to sleep at night. Just because an attorney gives his or her all to defend or prosecute does not make them slime or unethical...it means they are doing the job they "signed up for". You get that JD..then you have to pass a Bar.then you have to find a job that you can work at and keep. This is no rose coloured glasses...or surgical procedure. Some lawyers are Crooks..granted...but they all aren't...and this poster just disparaged a lot of upstanding people who really do want to make a difference and truly help people. Maybe s/he should take off the sunglasses and get a real look at the world. Sure there are slime attorneys..but there are slime parents and spouses too..don't you think? And, don't forget those "hired" experts.

Standing up for the lawyers I know..who are upstanding people..no matter which side they work on. It's a job that is too often "unrewarding"...it isn't all about money...just like teaching. It's the difference you can make in a person's life. Then you hear about the "lawyer bashing"..it's like bullying..behind the back...when you haven't got a clue as to what goes in to it.

jmo

J

Jayne, since I'm not a lawyer, I wasn't personally offended, but I am personally aware of how a whole group of people can suffer for the actions of a few. I'm retired now, but my entire work history was in law enforcement and I fully understand how one "bad apple" can ruin the whole barrel. Even now, it still embarrasses me when I hear of a peace officer doing something illegal or unethical because it tends to throw dirt on all the officers who wouldn't think of doing anything like that. It just kinda hits a sore spot.

[Sweetly]

Speaking of looking in the mirror....it appears casey has been sharing her pork rinds with Jose :biggrin::

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/anthony-baezdiscussesreleaseofau-1.jpg

LOL, certainly does, doesn't it! Looks like squirrel to me, ha ha

[MiamiNice1]

Miami,

that was just ONE act of total disregard. there was a myriad of events she was participating in for PLEASURE.....and witness after witness who will testify as to her demeanor.

her parents on LKL: he mentions her out dancing friday nite following the 'abduction'.

C. ANTHONY: That's one evening.

KING: One evening. That's a lot, one evening.

C. ANTHONY: One evening. Again, who knows? She could have been in shock. I don't know. You know?

KING: Can you ask her? Casey, why were you out dancing?

C. ANTHONY: She was there, she said, looking for clues and people that could help her find Caylee?

HA! there it is people. a psychopath excusing the behaviour of another psychopath. ONE NITE is one too many with regard to the alleged 'tragedy' that Casey was supposedly 'dealing' with....yes, ladies and gentleman, Casey 'COULD HAVE BEEN IN SHOCK'.

the jury is not going to be able to get past 31 days of total disregard coupled with her movements and behaviour during that period. witnesess will attest to her 'normal behaviour', where she was, what she was participating in AND most importantly, her shameless brag that her daughter was with her nanny at various 'fun locations'.

it will be an impossible task to sway a jury into believing she was 'in shock' or any other level of emotion that prevented her from reporting her daughter kidnapped. too many witnesses and of course, other pieces of evidence that will tie her to this crime, direct and/or CE.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Yes, there are myriad reasons to put OC away for a long time. It is comforting to know that the prosecution is gathering each and every event, right down to that damning tattoo.

31 days, partying, lying about child's whereabouts, stealing, shacking up with boyfriend, "Bella Vida" after your baby is gone, kidnapped, killed? Heinous.

[Sweetly]

http://www.wftv.com/index.html

Oh thanks, need n good to see you! =)

[seeing_eye]

I keep falling behind.
Kitty Lily want out. Then she wants in. The puppy Dusty goes chasing after her until she rushes back outside again.
Now she wants back in but is afraid the puppy is waiting to get her.
In my next house, my wish is for a pet door.
:smile:

I have a pet door, OG. And I can sure vouch for the convenience. If I didn't have it, I would not be able to handle 2 personal dogs and 5 fosters (all small dogs). They all go in and out as they please, day or night. And that gives me a lot more time to read these boards!

[Jester]

I keep falling behind.
Kitty Lily want out. Then she wants in. The puppy Dusty goes chasing after her until she rushes back outside again.
Now she wants back in but is afraid the puppy is waiting to get her.
In my next house, my wish is for a pet door.
:smile:

I almost went to work in my pajamas because I was glued to the news ... and then reality intruded ... I'm 42 or more pages behind.

Just add velcro, sweep them around the room ... I'm sure there's a baby crawler sleeper design in there somewhere, but for the meantime, be kind to animals.

[need2no]

A buffoon!!! I love it Pru.

The judge was walking out of the courtroom, and the Waterboy is objecting to the release.. Everyone is walking out, and wants to get THAT on the record.

I tell you what friend... This is going to be some incredible theatre once this trial starts. The PRP doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell once they seat a jury and they hear all the evidence against her.

And mommy and daddy can't help her anymore.


Today after the hearing I was thinking casey really should send mom and dad a thank you note. A note of thanks for all they have done with their outlandish shenanigans over this past year to draw more attention to her case. A note of thanks for keeping the public's interest in every little detail causing additional curiosity, and pushing for more. A note of thanks for all the 'mistruths', and ever changing stories to keep this as confusing and mysterious as possible. A note of thanks for sticking their nose in where it would be better left out....and on and on. Come on casey....send 'um a note of thanks...or hang 'um out to dry.

Nobody will ever convince me that much of their behavior is not done to drum up more and more drama for the benefit of a future movie and/or book, continued interviews (preferably out of state), as well as donations, and hopes of gaining new careers which require little effort on their part. They have one agenda and that agenda has nothing to do with preserving the memory of Caylee, finding justice for her, or even saving casey's sorry azz.

[Jester]

Jayne, since I'm not a lawyer, I wasn't personally offended, but I am personally aware of how a whole group of people can suffer for the actions of a few. I'm retired now, but my entire work history was in law enforcement and I fully understand how one "bad apple" can ruin the whole barrel. Even now, it still embarrasses me when I hear of a peace officer doing something illegal or unethical because it tends to throw dirt on all the officers who wouldn't think of doing anything like that. It just kinda hits a sore spot.

What do you mean by "a whole group of people can suffer for the actions of a few"? Do you mean family, like the Anthony 3 people family (or whatever can be counted on one hand of George) or do you mean like community people? I would disagree on "beyond the family" on principal. How did your personal example/experience of "one bad apple" impact your perception of ruin, the whole barrel, and how many people were impacted? What is your history with police and how does that play into this case?

[need2no]

Oh thanks, need n good to see you! =)

Good to see you too!

[Sweetly]

Today after the hearing I was thinking casey really should send mom and dad a thank you note. A note of thanks for all they have done with their outlandish shenanigans over this past year to draw more attention to her case. A note of thanks for keeping the public's interest in every little detail causing additional curiosity, and pushing for more. A note of thanks for all the 'mistruths', and ever changing stories to keep this as confusing and mysterious as possible. A note of thanks for sticking their nose in where it would be better left out....and on and on. Come on casey....send 'um a note of thanks...or hang 'um out to dry.

Nobody will ever convince me that much of their behavior is not done to drum up more and more drama for the benefit of a future movie and/or book, continued interviews (preferably out of state), as well as donations, and hopes of gaining new careers which require little effort on their part. They have one agenda and that agenda has nothing to do with preserving the memory of Caylee, finding justice for her, or even saving casey's sorry azz.

Here, here! Bravo! Bravo! :smile: Back in a few, gonna go watch the video circus that went on in court today!

[Oregongal]

That duct tape evidence hit me hard.I was still entertaining the thought that maybe this was an accident...Very distant thought but still a remote possibility.Not any more.This was deliberate.How could Casey say that she wanted to hold her head high and that she had nothing to be ashamed about..or some similar words.I am thoroughly choked up here and am going to bed with a heavy heart and a deep lump in my throat.Tears for Caylee.

I'm so sorry apothecary, I do understand because I'm feeling the same. I tho didn't think it was an accident, but now knowing of the duct tape, has introduced a whole nother emotion into my thoughts and feelings as well.
I have thought that Casey was a socio. A narsissist and perhaps psycopath, but seeing the duct tape evidence makes me know she is all of the above those....she's a monster.
Try and sleep well darlin.
Cry as you need to, let your heart be heavy, but go to sleep praying and thinking that justice for Caylee will come.

[Oregongal]

Ok, gonna pop outta here for the night. Hugs to all n sweet dreams. In my best Schwartzeneger voice I say, "I'll be back"! Nighters!
JUSTICE FOR OUR BABY GIRL!! =)

Good night Sweetly!
You better be back, I miss you when you're not here.
Sleep well.
:wub:

[need2no]

Good evening all.
Graveyard shift reporting for duty, here.
I watched the hearing today and was so annoyed at the way Cindy and George behaved. The phoniness, the fake tears and crying out in front of the Judge, Cindy sitting back there laughing with the person sitting next to her and as soon as the Judge walked out her whole demeanor changed to a grieving Grandmother.
What really burned my azz was when she was listening to Strickland's ruling and she sat there shaking her head no until she realized where the camera's were located. She had to get her face all in there to show how disgusted she was.

Is it true Baby George walked out of the courtroom before Judge Strickland finished up? What a baby who didn't get his way as he was standing up there whining to the Judge. I really think the Anthony's thought they were going to pull one over on the good Judge.

If you can't dazzle them with Brilliance, baffle them with BS.
Nice try Cindy and George. Brad is getting worse. Listening to the press conference thereafter was an Anthony speech! He knows better but went right along with them two evil do'ers...:glare:


My bold....YES, YES, YES. Quite a show he tried to put on, even apologized for his "emotion". I wonder how long they rehearsed. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if George's abrupt exit wasn't also pre planned.

[Oregongal]

Four hours of sleep sounds good about now. See y'all tomorrow.

Good night Spots, sleep well.
:wub:

[Jester]

Yes, there are myriad reasons to put OC away for a long time. It is comforting to know that the prosecution is gathering each and every event, right down to that damning tattoo.

31 days, partying, lying about child's whereabouts, stealing, shacking up with boyfriend, "Bella Vida" after your baby is gone, kidnapped, killed? Heinous.

The tattoo she got right after she murdered Cayley? She was in partying mood after that. How long were the Anthony grandparents in party mood after confirming that Cayley had been murdered? Was it until George pulled the suicide stunt? When did they stop partying? We know they started when the plane landed (after the LKL show) at the Ritz Sheraton and everyone knew that Cayley had been found near their house. The grandparents partying at the Ritz? What clued us in that Cayley's remains had been found.

Beautiful life ... dead or in jail? Somehow, Cindy's female descendants got it all wrong.

Grandma Cindy knew after the fight on June 15 that she would not see her granddaughter again, but she still went back to work after sniffing her granddaughter's remains and decomposition in the car. Her co-workers had to tell her to go home ... she was spinning it long after Cayley's murdered was reported.

[Oregongal]

Baez was up and running his mouth today. For what, I couldn't figure it out.
The good Judge made his ruling and he had to stand there and go over what he had already discussed with the prosecution.
Does this mini lawyer know what the he77 he's doing on a case with this magnitude.
This trial will be interesting just watching him. He talks a lot but says nothing.:shrug:
jmo

I didn't watch the vid of the hearing. I only saw on JVM and NG the clips of George and his pitiful pleading.
I think I don't even need to watch it tho, JB, George Anthony spoke but didn't say a thing that could have changed the Judges mind.
That's all I need to know. And I'm very glad to know Judge S is a stickler for the law and will not bend to the theatrics of others.

[need2no]

I'm so sorry apothecary, I do understand because I'm feeling the same. I tho didn't think it was an accident, but now knowing of the duct tape, has introduced a whole nother emotion into my thoughts and feelings as well.
I have thought that Casey was a socio. A narsissist and perhaps psycopath, but seeing the duct tape evidence makes me know she is all of the above those....she's a monster.
Try and sleep well darlin.
Cry as you need to, let your heart be heavy, but go to sleep praying and thinking that justice for Caylee will come.


:seeya: OG! Nice to be on board at the same time. Hope things are working out well for you.

I think the heartbreaker for me was to see confirmation in writing that Caylee was ALIVE when the duct tape was placed on her little mouth around and around in layers. I'm having a hard time trying NOT to imagine the look of horror in her eyes as her mother did something so horrible to her. At this point I hope and pray casey did knock her out with chloroform first. Sleep will not be restful tonight which is why I'm still here this late even though I have a 9am appt. in the morning.

[need2no]

I didn't watch the vid of the hearing. I only saw on JVM and NG the clips of George and his pitiful pleading.
I think I don't even need to watch it tho, JB, George Anthony spoke but didn't say a thing that could have changed the Judges mind.
That's all I need to know. And I'm very glad to know Judge S is a stickler for the law and will not bend to the theatrics of others.

Just in case you missed Cindy's performance and bling:


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/Anthony-autopsy-1.jpg

[Dick Tracy]

Today after the hearing I was thinking casey really should send mom and dad a thank you note. A note of thanks for all they have done with their outlandish shenanigans over this past year to draw more attention to her case. A note of thanks for keeping the public's interest in every little detail causing additional curiosity, and pushing for more. A note of thanks for all the 'mistruths', and ever changing stories to keep this as confusing and mysterious as possible. A note of thanks for sticking their nose in where it would be better left out....and on and on. Come on casey....send 'um a note of thanks...or hang 'um out to dry.

Nobody will ever convince me that much of their behavior is not done to drum up more and more drama for the benefit of a future movie and/or book, continued interviews (preferably out of state), as well as donations, and hopes of gaining new careers which require little effort on their part. They have one agenda and that agenda has nothing to do with preserving the memory of Caylee, finding justice for her, or even saving casey's sorry azz.

You know....

I'm sure the Anthony's feel pain, and loss. They are suffering, no matter what anyone says. They've surely made it worse on themselves. When we see someones hand trembling, that's not an act. But I don't feel sad for them. I really don't. They've dug this hole with all their lies, accusations, media interviews. And it's a pretty damned deep hole.

ETA - She'll try to hang em out to dry.

[Jester]

You know....

I'm sure the Anthony's feel pain, and loss. They are suffering, no matter what anyone says. They've surely made it worse on themselves. When we see someones hand trembling, that's not an act. But I don't feel sad for them. I really don't. They've dug this hole with all their lies, accusations, media interviews. And it's a pretty damned deep hole.

I'm not convinced that they feel pain. I think they understand that their granddaughter has been murdered, but I think upon realizing that their granddaughter has been murdered they are just like Casey - looking for a good, free party (like the RitZ). You say they suffer? What have they done to help themselves through their suffering? Demand cash for appearance on TV? sell videos of their dead granddaughter? Try to have the law re-written?

I don't feel sad for them. Anyone that could divide up their granddaughters remains, with their daughter's approval, is mental. Turning a loved one into jewelry? Sure - your saw it on TV trendy ... but for real? Exsqueeze me? I can't imagine a world where I wore a deceased loved one on my wrist, in a locket, or where ever I left the remains. People, including children, deserve a decent burial; to be put to rest. Bobbling around in someone's jewelry doesn't quite do it.

Their hole is so deep, there is no bottom.

[Deannalynn]

The duct tape and sticker has to be the most sadistic thing I have ever heard of. Casey would have had to hate this child extremely to think about doing something this outrageous and cruel.
For this alone she should get the death penalty, period.:angry:

Casey sits in that cell everyday and most likely doesn't think about that night and what she did to Caylee. Death may be the only thing that phases Casey. This was very unexpected. After all, she has plans to lay out on some beach and catch up with her tanning when this is all over.
jmo

[need2no]

You know....

I'm sure the Anthony's feel pain, and loss. They are suffering, no matter what anyone says. They've surely made it worse on themselves. When we see someones hand trembling, that's not an act. But I don't feel sad for them. I really don't. They've dug this hole with all their lies, accusations, media interviews. And it's a pretty damned deep hole.

Believe it or not I am a very compassionate person, and imagine they do have some degree of pain and loss in their quiet moments alone and away from the cameras. Not to mention fear of what the future will bring....their lives will never be the same or even close. At this time they don't even know when all this will be brought to an end so to speak. But they've made their choices and will have to live with it. As a matter of fact I'm even angry at the A's for making me feel such negative hostile feelings toward them. Normally I would feel great compassion, empathy and pain for 2 grandparents who lost their gd, and especially when their daughter was charged with taking her life. But not in this case. It is shameful how they have thrust Caylee aside for other agendas, and I find that replusive and inexcusable.
Heck I might could even overlook the A's bad behavior the first few days or so, having never been in their shoes, and assuming maybe they acted out of shock and fear....but at some point, they should have gotten it together and realized they were making a bad situation worse. They should have, and could have put Caylee first and wanted justice for her above all else, and still could have continued to love their daughter....but not lie for her, or probably more likely to cover their own arses.

As for the hand trembling....probably out of anger for not getting her way, but also not difficult to fake IMO.

You're right, it's a deep hole THEY have dug, probably too deep to crawl back out of at this late date. Sympathy-ZERO.

[Jester]

There is no understanding it. There is no fixing it. It is dysfunction with a capital D.

Dysfunctional ... at what age should Casey have been removed from the environment for there to have been any hope for her? How about Cayley? The formative years, between 0 and 6 years are important. If Cayley had stayed alive in her family until age 6, would Cayley Marie Anthony have been any different than Cindy Marie Anthony or Casey Marie Anthony???

I wonder what exactly is going on in Casey's head for her to make the choice she did.

[happygert]

The duct tape and sticker has to be the most sadistic thing I have ever heard of. Casey would have had to hate this child extremely to think about doing something this outrageous and cruel.
For this alone she should get the death penalty, period.:angry:

Casey sits in that cell everyday and most likely doesn't think about that night and what she did to Caylee. Death may be the only thing that phases Casey. This was very unexpected. After all, she has plans to lay out on some beach and catch up with her tanning when this is all over.
jmo

Too bad the jury cant say the way she is to be put to death.. Like in a trunk with hands cuffed behind her back while they are wrapping duct tape around her head over and over again.. then put in trash bags and left for the animal to eat her......

[Oregongal]

Well said counselor, I just hope 101 Spots stayed up long enough to read your response. To paint all attorneys with the same brush in my opinion is an uneducated comment. I know of two other attorneys who post on this thread that I am sure will feel the same as you do and be offended as well.

I will not dis Spots for her opinions and I have also had a bad experience with an attorney, but, I do not paint them all with the same brush. I feel there are way more ethical, moral, integrity guided attorneys than not.
It just seems this case has given us a couple of attorneys that are not part of the ethical, moral and integrity guided.
I am offended for our legal eagles who post here and are so generous with their legal knowledge and opinions.
They are of the ones that do not belong in the same group as JB and BC and it hurts that they may think any of us may be dissing them since I know most of us aren't.
It's as in every profession, there are good and there are bad.
I happen to believe JB and BC are not part of the good group. But, that in no way makes me believe that all attorney's are bad.
Especially our personal attorney's here on this board. They have each taught me so much and have been faithful in their posting's to speak and teach the law. I applaud them all.

[Oregongal]

I have a pet door, OG. And I can sure vouch for the convenience. If I didn't have it, I would not be able to handle 2 personal dogs and 5 fosters (all small dogs). They all go in and out as they please, day or night. And that gives me a lot more time to read these boards!

I'm jealous. :ohmy:
Yet, it does give me something to look forward to.
:wub:

[Dick Tracy]

I'm not convinced that they feel pain. I think they understand that their granddaughter has been murdered, but I think upon realizing that their granddaughter has been murdered they are just like Casey - looking for a good, free party (like the RitZ). You say they suffer? What have they done to help themselves through their suffering? Demand cash for appearance on TV? sell videos of their dead granddaughter? Try to have the law re-written?

I don't feel sad for them. Anyone that could divide up their granddaughters remains, with their daughter's approval, is mental. Turning a loved one into jewelry? Sure - your saw it on TV trendy ... but for real? Exsqueeze me? I can't imagine a world where I wore a deceased loved one on my wrist, in a locket, or where ever I left the remains. People, including children, deserve a decent burial; to be put to rest. Bobbling around in someone's jewelry doesn't quite do it.

Their hole is so deep, there is no bottom.

They're all just whack jobs.. Plain and simple.

[Jester]

The duct tape and sticker has to be the most sadistic thing I have ever heard of. Casey would have had to hate this child extremely to think about doing something this outrageous and cruel.
For this alone she should get the death penalty, period.:angry:

Casey sits in that cell everyday and most likely doesn't think about that night and what she did to Caylee. Death may be the only thing that phases Casey. This was very unexpected. After all, she has plans to lay out on some beach and catch up with her tanning when this is all over.
jmo

No kidding ... chloroforming her child, and then duct tape round and round her head several layers deep? Nasty.

No wonder Cindy and George Anthony didn't want people to know what their daughter did to her daughter. Top it off with a heart sticker and into the laundry bag? sick.

Casey sits in a cell with a plexiglass wall so the guards can keep an eye on her. She's probably fantasizing about a life with Baez, or maybe that's old news and she's hoping an old boyfriend will visit. She seemed to get restless and want to try out the old boyfriends as well as one night stands regularly. Must be time for a new squeeze ... wonder if she'll be just as happy with women, like Karla Homolka?

You're probably right ... reality hasn't even begun to sink in. We'll have to wait 2-5 years after the sentence before she realizes that no one is coming to get her ... until she's almost dead ... thankfully. I wonder how many of the guys that are sending her money are willing to wreck their lives and marry her. Can you imagine a C Marie Anthony IV, delivered by Casey?

[Oregongal]

I almost went to work in my pajamas because I was glued to the news ... and then reality intruded ... I'm 42 or more pages behind.

Just add velcro, sweep them around the room ... I'm sure there's a baby crawler sleeper design in there somewhere, but for the meantime, be kind to animals.

:lol:
I love this post from you Jester!
And yes, I am being kind to my animals. They are conrolling me right now and I haven't yelled or kicked either of them.
I just keep getting up and away from the board to cater to them
:tonguewag:

[Dick Tracy]

Believe it or not I am a very compassionate person, and imagine they do have some degree of pain and loss in their quiet moments alone and away from the cameras. Not to mention fear of what the future will bring....their lives will never be the same or even close. At this time they don't even know when all this will be brought to an end so to speak. But they've made their choices and will have to live with it. As a matter of fact I'm even angry at the A's for making me feel such negative hostile feelings toward them. Normally I would feel great compassion, empathy and pain for 2 grandparents who lost their gd, and especially when their daughter was charged with taking her life. But not in this case. It is shameful how they have thrust Caylee aside for other agendas, and I find that replusive and inexcusable.
Heck I might could even overlook the A's bad behavior the first few days or so, having never been in their shoes, and assuming maybe they acted out of shock and fear....but at some point, they should have gotten it together and realized they were making a bad situation worse. They should have, and could have put Caylee first and wanted justice for her above all else, and still could have continued to love their daughter....but not lie for her, or probably more likely to cover their own arses.

As for the hand trembling....probably out of anger for not getting her way, but also not difficult to fake IMO.

You're right, it's a deep hole THEY have dug, probably too deep to crawl back out of at this late date. Sympathy-ZERO.

Great post. I"m the same way.

Greed will do that to you. Sometimes blood isn't thicker than water.

[Jester]

They're all just whack jobs.. Plain and simple.

So whacked ... the whole family.

And yet, they play into the normal reality TV script so well.

Hammers, destroying memorials, complaining loud, rude, and deceptively. It's more like reality TV than reality, complete with celebrity dinners when the remains are found.

[happygert]

No shoes were ever found of Caylee's at the dump site or in the car IIRC..Why would you take a 2 year leave the house and have no SHOES? IMO casey premediated murdering Caylee.. Not so sure she didnt murder her in the bedroom.. wrap her in the blanket making mom and dad think she was a sleep.. walk out with Caylee's dead body.. went back got the hamper and put her in there incase anyone looked they'd think it was laundry .....crap just my mind working over time here.. The sleepless nights have really got to me..

[Jester]

:lol:
I love this post from you Jester!
And yes, I am being kind to my animals. They are conrolling me right now and I haven't yelled or kicked either of them.
I just keep getting up and away from the board to cater to them
:tonguewag:

I have two standard poodles. They want to be floor sweepers with velcro on their backs, but I keep shaving them.

And about that bad Casey Anthony. Hmmm. Seems to me she had it all. Live with mom and dad, don't have to work, raise daughter, lounge around the house all day, eat, sleep, look after pre-schooler (who likes TV), check the net, relax, swim, tan, go to the beach, check in with friends ... what was Casey's complaint again?

[Dick Tracy]

No shoes were ever found of Caylee's at the dump site or in the car IIRC..Why would you take a 2 year leave the house and have no SHOES? IMO casey premediated murdering Caylee.. Not so sure she didnt murder her in the bedroom.. wrap her in the blanket making mom and dad think she was a sleep.. walk out with Caylee's dead body.. went back got the hamper and put her in there incase anyone looked they'd think it was laundry .....crap just my mind working over time here.. The sleepless nights have really got to me..

No shoes..

You know... There's something interesting about this statement -

"I dropped my child off between 9am and 1pm at Sawgrass Apartments."

That's a four hour window. I wonder why she said THAT?

[Jester]

No shoes were ever found of Caylee's at the dump site or in the car IIRC..Why would you take a 2 year leave the house and have no SHOES? IMO casey premediated murdering Caylee.. Not so sure she didnt murder her in the bedroom.. wrap her in the blanket making mom and dad think she was a sleep.. walk out with Caylee's dead body.. went back got the hamper and put her in there incase anyone looked they'd think it was laundry .....crap just my mind working over time here.. The sleepless nights have really got to me..

I think she was murdered either after an argument (when Cindy was going ballistic about stolen cheques) in the car as they drove away that night, or they went to bed after the terrible argument and Casey decided to murder her daughter the next day after saying good bye to George. The latter seems a little odd. If Casey had cooled off enough to have a normal morning, why did she then go nuts and duct tape her daughter's head? It sounds more like the anger from the middle of a sleepless night, after many sleepless nights, after an argument with mom and driving away into the night with daughter in tow ... possibly without her shoes.

[Jester]

No shoes..

You know... There's something interesting about this statement -

"I dropped my child off between 9am and 1pm at Sawgrass Apartments."

That's a four hour window. I wonder why she said THAT?

Too stoned to pay attention?

[happygert]

No shoes..

You know... There's something interesting about this statement -

"I dropped my child off between 9am and 1pm at Sawgrass Apartments."

That's a four hour window. I wonder why she said THAT?


I dont know that was an odd one .. If I had to be some where I'd know what time I took my child to a sitter or I might have said well it was between 9 and 9:15 or 9:30 not a 4 hour window..

[Dick Tracy]

I think she was murdered either after an argument (when Cindy was going ballistic about stolen cheques) in the car as they drove away that night, or they went to bed after the terrible argument and Casey decided to murder her daughter the next day after saying good bye to George. The latter seems a little odd. If Casey had cooled off enough to have a normal morning, why did she then go nuts and duct tape her daughter's head? It sounds more like the anger from the middle of a sleepless night, after many sleepless nights, after an argument with mom and driving away into the night with daughter in tow ... possibly without her shoes.


That's a good theory.

When I finally put forth what I think happen, I'm going to raise alot of eyebrows here. But I will say that the duct tape was post mortem. Someone said that duct tape won't stick to decomposing skin. I can't find any literature on that.

[happygert]

I think she was murdered either after an argument (when Cindy was going ballistic about stolen cheques) in the car as they drove away that night, or they went to bed after the terrible argument and Casey decided to murder her daughter the next day after saying good bye to George. The latter seems a little odd. If Casey had cooled off enough to have a normal morning, why did she then go nuts and duct tape her daughter's head? It sounds more like the anger from the middle of a sleepless night, after many sleepless nights, after an argument with mom and driving away into the night with daughter in tow ... possibly without her shoes.

I think she was murdered on the 15th.. I dont think Caylee ever seen another day..g didnt see her on the 16th.. I think g just said the 16.. to try and keep the choking incident away from LE ..

[Oregongal]

Today after the hearing I was thinking casey really should send mom and dad a thank you note. A note of thanks for all they have done with their outlandish shenanigans over this past year to draw more attention to her case. A note of thanks for keeping the public's interest in every little detail causing additional curiosity, and pushing for more. A note of thanks for all the 'mistruths', and ever changing stories to keep this as confusing and mysterious as possible. A note of thanks for sticking their nose in where it would be better left out....and on and on. Come on casey....send 'um a note of thanks...or hang 'um out to dry.

Nobody will ever convince me that much of their behavior is not done to drum up more and more drama for the benefit of a future movie and/or book, continued interviews (preferably out of state), as well as donations, and hopes of gaining new careers which require little effort on their part. [B]They have one agenda and that agenda has nothing to do with preserving the memory of Caylee, finding justice for her, or even saving casey's sorry azz.

Casey sending them a note of thanks :lol::lol:
That cracks me up!
ITA that ALL of the behavior of the Ant's is for their own personal gain.
Whether it be psychologically or financially. Probably both.
They have not only thrown away their daughter and gdaughter, even tho they try and portray a different picture to the world, they have, as you said continued to fulfill their own agenda.
Casey and their continuing words of support and love for her, Caylee and their continued words, actions and behavior for her all lead to what I feel is their agenda.....what I bolded of your post.
ITA that their agenda does not have anything to do with Caylee. I also feel that it doesn't have much to do with Casey.
The Ant's know. They know that their daughter killed Caylee.
They also seem to be knowing of how to try and work the public to glean whatever they can for themselves. To bad (waaa-waaa) this latest move of theirs didn't work out their way. They were unsuccessful in keeping the truth from the public.
They are as sickening as their daughter.
Sorry, I'm angry with them for even trying to get the autopsy report sealed. How dare they even think they could go against the law of Florida and make that happen. Who the hell do they think they are?
How dare they think they are more special than any others in their position. They are not the only ones who have lost a grandchild. They are not the only ones who have an immediate family member accused.
There are so many more families out there who are or have faced the very same thing they are. What makes them think they are so special for the Judge to even think of denying the law and consider their boo-hoo's and their anguish?
I will stop now. Will take a few cleansing breaths to try and rid myself of the anger I'm feeling.
>insert a deep breathing icon here<

[Dick Tracy]

Too stoned to pay attention?


I dont know that was an odd one .. If I had to be some where I'd know what time I took my child to a sitter or I might have said well it was between 9 and 9:15 or 9:30 not a 4 hour window..

Something about that timeframe. Just puzzles me.. Maybe its just me.

[happygert]

Casey sending them a note of thanks :lol::lol:
That cracks me up!
ITA that ALL of the behavior of the Ant's is for their own personal gain.
Whether it be psychologically or financially. Probably both.
They have not only thrown away their daughter and gdaughter, even tho they try and portray a different picture to the world, they have, as you said continued to fulfill their own agenda.
Casey and their continuing words of support and love for her, Caylee and their continued words, actions and behavior for her all lead to what I feel is their agenda.....what I bolded of your post.
ITA that their agenda does not have anything to do with Caylee. I also feel that it doesn't have much to do with Casey.
The Ant's know. They know that their daughter killed Caylee.
They also seem to be knowing of how to try and work the public to glean whatever they can for themselves. To bad (waaa-waaa) this latest move of theirs didn't work out their way. They were unsuccessful in keeping the truth from the public.
They are as sickening as their daughter.
Sorry, I'm angry with them for even trying to get the autopsy report sealed. How dare they even think they could go against the law of Florida and make that happen. Who the hell do they think they are?
How dare they think they are more special than any others in their position. They are not the only ones who have lost a grandchild. They are not the only ones who have an immediate family member accused.
There are so many more families out there who are or have faced the very same thing they are. What makes them think they are so special for the Judge to even think of denying the law and consider their boo-hoo's and their anguish?
I will stop now. Will take a few cleansing breaths to try and rid myself of the anger I'm feeling.
>insert a deep breathing icon here<


OG, ITA.... now breathe.....in hold it exhail.....
These people just make my blood boil.. did you get the picture?

[happygert]

Something about that timeframe. Just puzzles me.. Maybe its just me.

maybe thats how long it took her to figure out she couldn't dig the hole in back yard and then what was she gonna do with Caylee's body..

[Oregongal]

:seeya: OG! Nice to be on board at the same time. Hope things are working out well for you.

I think the heartbreaker for me was to see confirmation in writing that Caylee was ALIVE when the duct tape was placed on her little mouth around and around in layers. I'm having a hard time trying NOT to imagine the look of horror in her eyes as her mother did something so horrible to her. At this point I hope and pray casey did knock her out with chloroform first. Sleep will not be restful tonight which is why I'm still here this late even though I have a 9am appt. in the morning.

Hi back darlin!
Things are still in limbo.
I'm with you totally on this heartbreaker. I'm also trying to get the visions of Caylee being alive as her mother taped her nose, her mouth and jaw while she was alive out of my mind.
The horror of that scenario is killing me. I do pray and hope that Caylee was knocked out somehow. Chloroform, Xanex, Benedryl....somehow. I can't stand the thought that Caylee may have been awake and struggling, looked into her mother's eyes and saw the evil and hatred there.
I am praying that the Lord saved Caylee somehow from that.
You better go get some sleep darlin so you can keep your appt.
:wub:

[Susie419]

Cindy and Casey had the big blowout at night, Casey snatched Caylee up and took off with her, telling Cindy she would never have Caylee. There was rage and anger building, possibly Caylee screaming and crying relentlessly for her Grandma, which only infuriated Casey even more, (that duct tape may have been in her bag since it was borrowed from Amy) and Casey may have shut Caylee up once and for all with tape over her mouth and nose. No doubt in my mind it was an act of violent, uncontrollable rage. The story George and Cindy tell about seeing them on the 16th , imo, is hogwash. They are covering up because of the fight, so making that story up.Just another scenario played out in my mind... :sad:

I think she was murdered either after an argument (when Cindy was going ballistic about stolen cheques) in the car as they drove away that night, or they went to bed after the terrible argument and Casey decided to murder her daughter the next day after saying good bye to George. The latter seems a little odd. If Casey had cooled off enough to have a normal morning, why did she then go nuts and duct tape her daughter's head? It sounds more like the anger from the middle of a sleepless night, after many sleepless nights, after an argument with mom and driving away into the night with daughter in tow ... possibly without her shoes.

[Oregongal]

Just in case you missed Cindy's performance and bling:


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/Anthony-autopsy-1.jpg

:thumbsup:
Thanks for this!
:biggrin:

[Oregongal]

I have two standard poodles. They want to be floor sweepers with velcro on their backs, but I keep shaving them.

And about that bad Casey Anthony. Hmmm. Seems to me she had it all. Live with mom and dad, don't have to work, raise daughter, lounge around the house all day, eat, sleep, look after pre-schooler (who likes TV), check the net, relax, swim, tan, go to the beach, check in with friends ... what was Casey's complaint again?

Bolding mine.....Cindy.

[Oregongal]

OG, ITA.... now breathe.....in hold it exhail.....
These people just make my blood boil.. did you get the picture?

Ok, in...holding...exahaling.
Thank you happy.
Yes, I did, beautiful!!!

[Deannalynn]

No shoes..

You know... There's something interesting about this statement -

"I dropped my child off between 9am and 1pm at Sawgrass Apartments."

That's a four hour window. I wonder why she said THAT?

First of all, there is no such thing as the perfect crime.
The only thing I can think of is Casey was on fast forward when she got to the Sawgrass apartments and snooped at Zaneida's application.
That was going to be her story. Then she began to change everything around to fit whatever she was questioned about "31" days later.
The shoes. I have to agree, I think she was angry and (of course) not thinking of Caylee whether she was dressed appropriately or not when she stormed out of the house with her. All she could see is red at that moment. Caylee being a typical 2 year old was upset and crying and couldn't stop. Casey being a typical narcissistic, sociopath, psycho biotch pulled over got out of the car and opened the door to Caylee's back seat and wrapped duct tape around her nose and mouth (full of rage) she then got back into her car and drove around with no place to go. Caylee dies from lack of oxygen.
The duct tape. Hmmm. I don't have a roll of duct tape lying around in my car.
The sticker, another hmmm. Unless the sticker was placed on Caylee's mouth after she dies since Casey is a narcissistic, sociopath, Psycho that she is.
jmo

[Oregongal]

I want so much to stay with you all, but I am falling asleep.
So I am saying good night all.
I will be checking back in on tonights thread when I sign on tomorrow.
You all have been posting such great posts....want to see them all.
Good night and I hope you all sleep well tonight. See you all tomorrow.
:wub:

[Deannalynn]

How rude of me...good evening all

Hey notdarkyet..Looks like the majority of us all all here and accounted for.:lol:

[Deannalynn]

I want so much to stay with you all, but I am falling asleep.
So I am saying good night all.
I will be checking back in on tonights thread when I sign on tomorrow.
You all have been posting such great posts....want to see them all.
Good night and I hope you all sleep well tonight. See you all tomorrow.
:wub:

Good night Oregongal. Sleep right and keep your toes tucked in.:biggrinjester:

[Oregongal]

Cindy and Casey had the big blowout at night, Casey snatched Caylee up and took off with her, telling Cindy she would never have Caylee. There was rage and anger building, possibly Caylee screaming and crying relentlessly for her Grandma, which only infuriated Casey even more, (that duct tape may have been in her bag since it was borrowed from Amy) and Casey may have shut Caylee up once and for all with tape over her mouth and nose. No doubt in my mind it was an act of violent, uncontrollable rage. The story George and Cindy tell about seeing them on the 16th , imo, is hogwash. They are covering up because of the fight, so making that story up.Just another scenario played out in my mind... :sad:

Hi Susie, just had to post this last post....I so totally agree with all you said.
That's exactly what I've thought and with the autopsy report about the several strips of duct tape has validated what I thought. Your post has also validated my thoughts. It's horrible and I cannot begin to imagine doing as Casey did, but I can imagine this scenario.

[Oregongal]

Good night Oregongal. Sleep right and keep your toes tucked in.:biggrinjester:

I will Deanna :biggrinjester:
Good night.
:wub:

[Deannalynn]

I'm wondering now if George or Cindy (or both) knew there was duct tape in the glove box or on the floor of that car that technically belong to them. Why is Lee so quiet now. Has anyone heard anything about Lee. For a 3-some who was all involved in the beginning it sure does appear that Lee has walked away from his mother and Father's Idiosyncrasies, too.
I wonder if George and Cindy talk to him via telephone. No one has mentioned Lee is a few months. (Since the Milsteads moved in??):confused: They are all awful quiet. :sneaky:

[Deannalynn]

Are you sticking around Deannalynn? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeze:confused:

I'm here and wide awake..:w00t:

[Deannalynn]

BY THE WAY, does anyone know how Casey is doing, mentally? Anymore screaming in the middle of the night, or throwing herself on the floor, holding her breath, or--------? I think she's lonesome and should be put in with the toughest, roughest woman in the jail. You know, just to keep her safe from all those ghouls who are scaring her. Poor soul. Casey, let me tell you, it's just the beginning. Sleep well tonight.

Maybe the woman who claims she seen Casey being strapped down and reported all of Casey's groceries and makeup and "room" decor, will have herself arrested again so she can look in on Casey and see how she's doing.:tonguewag:

[aproudmom]

Can someone let me know was the day of remembrance taped the other night? I looked in the links and could not find a video just a link to a story that only 30 people showed up which I was not happy to see..don't know why it bothers me I know millions of us love her it was just a shock to read only 30 people showed up...TIA if someone can let me know

[Deannalynn]

Am I here alone and wide awake?:confused::biggrinjester:
Helloooooo, what happened to our graveyard shift. Did somebody yell FIRE!:laugh:

[Deannalynn]

Were you here earlier by chance...? And, yeah for hanging out with me.

I had a couple really funny posts - but if you have not seen them, I could send you a highlight synopsis...let me know if anyone is in the mood for my brand of humor, then I'll share since there are just a few here...let me know, please...lol:thumbsup:

I was incognito for a couple hours, do tell.:thumbup:

[Deannalynn]

Can someone let me know was the day of remembrance taped the other night? I looked in the links and could not find a video just a link to a story that only 30 people showed up which I was not happy to see..don't know why it bothers me I know millions of us love her it was just a shock to read only 30 people showed up...TIA if someone can let me know


I'm sorry proudmom, I heard the same thing and was devestated. I haven't seen the link for it.
The Anthony's do not have that much pull.:sneaky:

[aproudmom]

I'm wondering now if George or Cindy (or both) knew there was duct tape in the glove box or on the floor of that car that technically belong to them. Why is Lee so quiet now. Has anyone heard anything about Lee. For a 3-some who was all involved in the beginning it sure does appear that Lee has walked away from his mother and Father's Idiosyncrasies, too.
I wonder if George and Cindy talk to him via telephone. No one has mentioned Lee is a few months. (Since the Milsteads moved in??):confused: They are all awful quiet. :sneaky:

well if you believe them he is working and out of town alot for his job..do we know for sure that the KFN bunch has moved in or just a rumor..well they should have plenty of room KC room Caylee's room and the so called office that I would guess was once Lee's room..I am sure they have given up caylee's room since she will not be coming home..:angry:

[aproudmom]

I'm sorry proudmom, I heard the same thing and was devestated. I haven't seen the link for it.
The Anthony's do not have that much pull.:sneaky:

I teared up Deanna I was in shock to bad all of us do not live close...I figured it would be a big turn out for little caylee..but sounds like for some reason people did not come out..I just do not understand..I am going to email Rev Grund he is on my Myspace and ask him if it was taped I know he was going to try to get it live streamed but I have not been on to much with baseball season starting...THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW:wub:

[aproudmom]

BY THE WAY, does anyone know how Casey is doing, mentally? Anymore screaming in the middle of the night, or throwing herself on the floor, holding her breath, or--------? I think she's lonesome and should be put in with the toughest, roughest woman in the jail. You know, just to keep her safe from all those ghouls who are scaring her. Poor soul. Casey, let me tell you, it's just the beginning. Sleep well tonight.

Next time they need to just duck tape her A$$ down and walk out:cursing: nightmares my A$$ she is a actor in the making to bad she wont be playing herself in the Monster Mom movie someone will do down the road..since she calls it her STORY when ask how she would pay for her dream team she said I am not selling MY STORY OFGS a sweet little brown eyed angel is a story to her..makes me wanna barf and then take a hammer to her head.......JMO

[Deannalynn]

I teared up Deanna I was in shock to bad all of us do not live close...I figured it would be a big turn out for little caylee..but sounds like for some reason people did not come out..I just do not understand..I am going to email Rev Grund he is on my Myspace and ask him if it was taped I know he was going to try to get it live streamed but I have not been on to much with baseball season starting...THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW:wub:

Well then.This was arranged and planned before the "wooden cross" incident where George and Cindy and the Milsteads went chasing after Beth and her posse.:confused:

[aproudmom]

They want a foundation like Mark Klaas so very badly - but America seems to be telling them...We know Mark Klass, sir, and YOU'RE no Mark Klaas. Also, Scamthony's, America's Most Wanted already has a host...We know John Walsh, sir, and YOU'RE no John Walsh...Do everyone a favor - JUST SHUTTY ALREADY - I can see China from the hole you are digging!

Your potential jurors

What they need to do is admit their daughter did this to them no one else and stop all their crying over this cause if it was not for their daughter they would not need to be in court to try to keep autopsy reports sealed and so on..WHEN WILL THEY GET IT..they will never save KC they are only helping in nailing her coffin if you ask me..and LOL they will never be like Klass and Walsh and Mark Lunsford so they might just wanna give it up..when the circus of Haleigh's case does not want them around that speaks volumes to me...

KC COFFIN hammer Mommy and Daddy helping her out wonder if she will thank them for their help when she hears GUILTY:tonguewag:

[Deannalynn]

What they need to do is admit their daughter did this to them no one else and stop all their crying over this cause if it was not for their daughter they would not need to be in court to try to keep autopsy reports sealed and so on..WHEN WILL THEY GET IT..they will never save KC they are only helping in nailing her coffin if you ask me..and LOL they will never be like Klass and Walsh and Mark Lunsford so they might just wanna give it up..when the circus of Haleigh's case does not want them around that speaks volumes to me...

KC COFFIN hammer Mommy and Daddy helping her out wonder if she will thank them for their help when she hears GUILTY:tonguewag:

It's pretty obvious by the no looks in the court room there is something going on between George, Cindy and Casey. Perhaps Baez told Casey her mom and dad will put her on that table with the final call if they continue doing what they're doing. The media, talk shows and press conferences. Every time they appear anywhere they keep digging Casey a bigger hole.
And Brad Conway. He sat up there on LKL ( I believe it was LKL) and stated there was NO duct tape wrapped around Caylees head when they were discussing how the media has interfered and the gossip that has been out there.:confused:
They are all looking pretty bad since the autopsy report was released. Just sayin.
JMO

[zinnia]

First of all, there is no such thing as the perfect crime.
The only thing I can think of is Casey was on fast forward when she got to the Sawgrass apartments and snooped at Zaneida's application.
That was going to be her story. Then she began to change everything around to fit whatever she was questioned about "31" days later.
The shoes. I have to agree, I think she was angry and (of course) not thinking of Caylee whether she was dressed appropriately or not when she stormed out of the house with her. All she could see is red at that moment. Caylee being a typical 2 year old was upset and crying and couldn't stop. Casey being a typical narcissistic, sociopath, psycho biotch pulled over got out of the car and opened the door to Caylee's back seat and wrapped duct tape around her nose and mouth (full of rage) she then got back into her car and drove around with no place to go. Caylee dies from lack of oxygen.
The duct tape. Hmmm. I don't have a roll of duct tape lying around in my car.
The sticker, another hmmm. Unless the sticker was placed on Caylee's mouth after she dies since Casey is a narcissistic, sociopath, Psycho that she is.
jmo

This is the scenerio I have kept in the back of my mind. My only addition is I think that one of the secrets the family keeps is that tape was what Cindy used on her kids to keep them quiet. The heart sticker was Caseys' last "kiss" to her.
I do have duct tape in the car; it can fix anything. Putting it on anyones mouth is unthinkable as it will stick so tightly. I had thought there was only one piece of tape but the autopsy report said several. My guess is that Caylee pulled the first one off and so many were put on and that is what sufficated her. Makes me cry to even write that.
Poor baby, seeing the two 'mothers' fighting, being drug out of the house by a hysterical KC and because she was upset her mouth was taped. My guess is that is the 'accident' that Jose said.

[aproudmom]

I had never listened to the video of little Caylee and her Great-Grandpa he is singing to her I always just heard her singing you are my Sunshine wonder if he taught her that song.:crying:..she looks so much like her GGP she sure got his eyes..how could she take her life one day after this video I think it was jealousy and she wanted it to always be about her..JMO..and GA wanted to say in court the release would bring her GGP more grief well they can thank KC for that..

http://www.mahalo.com/caylee-anthony
RIP Sweet Angel you are our Sunshine

[Deannalynn]

What they need to do is admit their daughter did this to them no one else and stop all their crying over this cause if it was not for their daughter they would not need to be in court to try to keep autopsy reports sealed and so on..WHEN WILL THEY GET IT..they will never save KC they are only helping in nailing her coffin if you ask me..and LOL they will never be like Klass and Walsh and Mark Lunsford so they might just wanna give it up..when the circus of Haleigh's case does not want them around that speaks volumes to me...

KC COFFIN hammer Mommy and Daddy helping her out wonder if she will thank them for their help when she hears GUILTY:tonguewag:

It seems to me Cindy had full control of Casey up until she was arrested (except for one very important factor) and that was getting Casey to tell the truth for once in her life.

Since they are hated so much by the majority of the population, I don't blame Haleigh's parents for not wanting Cindy and George near their circle of help in finding Haleigh. They are nothing but a huge distraction and they want to be taken seriously. In addition, Caylee was murdered by the hands of her own mother. Totally different story, here.:rolleyes:
For sake of embarrassment to themselves they backed off but said, if there was anytime they needed, they know they can call and George would come running.
When pigs fly!

[desmom]

Good Morning All! :seeya:

I started a new weekend thread with the One year ago today...June 20, 2008

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=355130