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really3997
06-18-2009, 10:09 PM
What kind do you like...I will buy whatever I don't have on hand...

Hey, are you just in Orlando or do you live pretty close to the Anthony's???...without giving your address of course.

Can you walk over to Cindy's and get me that chili recipe???

I am one subdivision over, I could walk but that would be against the FLB code and I have my eye on this years crown:tonguewag:

101Spots
06-18-2009, 10:09 PM
Baez allegedly has hired Spitz and Reichs for his epert testimony as ME. Not sure if he has discarded Koblinski or not.

Probably easier to list who he has *not* hired.

Dr. Seuss
Dr. Spock
Dr. Jekyll

summer
06-18-2009, 10:09 PM
But, but... there are different kinds of chocolate and it is NOT all the same..you know that one piece left in the box that no one wants.. I have to make sure:crying:

Ha ha you funny!

Bet you like dark lavender chocolate, huh?

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:10 PM
Omg that is so funny I almost fell over. Who thinks these things up?

That is right on the money. A part of me almost hopes that Bear runs her right over!!! :thumbsup:
Geez!

All of me hopes that.

cassidy
06-18-2009, 10:11 PM
I am one subdivision over, I could walk but that would be against the FLB code and I have my eye on this years crown:tonguewag:
Get the chili recipe and the crown is YOURS. Guaranteed. Forever.

boo
06-18-2009, 10:11 PM
Pardon this little OT: When my eldest was a little and I'd be upset with him for some reason, he'd say "Mommy, why are you making those ugly eyebrows at me?" :scared:

LOL And I'm sure my eyebrows were nothing compared with Mrs. Eyebrows herself.


AnniePie ~ :wub:

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:12 PM
Probably easier to list who he has *not* hired.

Dr. Seuss
Dr. Spock
Dr. Jekyll

I think Dr. Seuss might be a good oen for Baez to use to write his "motions." I put that in quotes becausethey are not like any motions my daughter had to write when she was in law school.

boo
06-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Probably easier to list who he has *not* hired.

Dr. Seuss
Dr. Spock
Dr. Jekyll

Dr. Doolittle
Dr. Krevorkian
Dr. Laura (yuck)

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Watching NG...showing part of M&M interview with George where Morgan asks him the last time he saw his granddaughter and George goes ballistic and threatens to leave...

funny how just this week he answered that same question on the Early Show.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Probably easier to list who he has *not* hired.

Dr. Seuss
Dr. Spock
Dr. Jekyll

Sorry, Jekyll was spotted along with Hyde. Defense table.

sammy62
06-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Omg that is so funny I almost fell over. Who thinks these things up?

That is right on the money. A part of me almost hopes that Bear runs her right over!!! :thumbsup:
Geez!

I'm hoping Cindy has this nightmare at night. Casey too for that matter.

boo
06-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Watching NG...showing part of M&M interview with George where Morgan asks him the last time he saw his granddaughter and George goes ballistic and threatens to leave...

funny how just this week he answered that same question on the Early Show.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No kidding. Cha-ching

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:15 PM
Dr. Doolittle
Dr. Krevorkian
Dr. Laura (yuck)


Yeah, Dr. Laura would make way to much sense for those idiots.

cassidy
06-18-2009, 10:16 PM
Watching NG...showing part of M&M interview with George where Morgan asks him the last time he saw his granddaughter and George goes ballistic and threatens to leave...

funny how just this week he answered that same question on the Early Show.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Does he give Morgan an answer at all? (I can't remember).

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 10:17 PM
Baez allegedly has hired Spitz and Reichs for his epert testimony as ME. Not sure if he has discarded Koblinski or not.

If it's Spitz sr. he can kiss his case goodbye. I don't think he should be testifying anymore. In Spector one he wouldn't stick to the subject, ignored questions and was downright rude and confrontational with the Prosecutor. All he wanted to talk about was shooting calves in the head. (blech)

summer
06-18-2009, 10:18 PM
Does he give Morgan an answer at all? (I can't remember).

He does, sorta, and then he screams "don't you ever ask me that again, SIR!" or something like that. Real sanctimonious.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
Go Sue Moss! You Rock! The public DOES want it released, and what's all this about an eye socket tonight on NG? I've heard now two things about an eye socket. Was her face bashed in or something?

The A's traumatized my flat A$$. I'm with Moss on this one, release it to the media and Let everyone pick the autopsy apart. It's all the Anthony's have left us with since they REFUSE to tell the truth.
Her AUTOPSY AND CAYLEE can and WILL speak for HERSELF to us all.
Ditto bug! :thumbsup:

cassidy
06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
He does, sorta, and then he screams "don't you ever ask me that again, SIR!" or something like that. Real sanctimonious.


Thanks. Just wondered if it differed from what he said yesterday.

Sun
06-18-2009, 10:20 PM
Baez allegedly has hired Spitz and Reichs for his epert testimony as ME. Not sure if he has discarded Koblinski or not.

Here is the list of folks that Baez said he wanted to show the autopsy photos to.

Dr. Lee --CT
Dr. Kathy Reichs --NC and Canada
Dr. Fierro --Washington D.C.
Dr. Spitz --Michigan
Dr. Huntington --Nebraska
Dr. Bock --Colorado
LKB --New York

And, these two have been added since that time.
Macaluso --California
Lyon --Michigan/Chicago?

summer4meplz
06-18-2009, 10:20 PM
HOME AGAIN!!! WOOHOO......4 days behind.....but I actually happened to catch a glimpse of george and cindy on the morning show.....and george was saying how he and Caylee had breakfast together on June 16??? I don't remember him ever saying that before....

I did see where JS sealed the video because it proves casey is guilty and baez is unprofessional.....not the Judge's words...but my interpretation.......:biggrin:

a hearing tomorrow.....I am a happy girl to be home just in time for court.....

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Watching NG...showing part of M&M interview with George where Morgan asks him the last time he saw his granddaughter and George goes ballistic and threatens to leave...

funny how just this week he answered that same question on the Early Show.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I've seen that part of the depo tape a few times now, and I caught that too. You see, ZG's lawyers were inconveniencing them because the depos kept the A's away from their fund, er, I mean, foundation. :laugh:

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:22 PM
Does he give Morgan an answer at all? (I can't remember).

YES...He did...as many times as he threatened...he has no ----- to get up and really leave.

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:23 PM
If it's Spitz sr. he can kiss his case goodbye. I don't think he should be testifying anymore. In Spector one he wouldn't stick to the subject, ignored questions and was downright rude and confrontational with the Prosecutor. All he wanted to talk about was shooting calves in the head. (blech)

Yes I remember that so well.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:24 PM
I think just the opposite. I think LE is just bidding their time.

But that's just what I think......

and a girl came dreamed , can't she? :blushing:
I hoping for that too, witchy!
It's sets a really bad precedent to not charge these people who have been blatantly breaking the law, obstructing the investigation, lying to LE and FBI, etc. ... people like this have to be held accountable ... grief is not excuse for breaking the law period ... and this has been going on for almost a year! I mean, seriously, who gets away with this ???

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:26 PM
Here is the list of folks that Baez said he wanted to show the autopsy photos to.

Dr. Lee --CT
Dr. Kathy Reichs --NC and Canada
Dr. Fierro --Washington D.C.
Dr. Spitz --Michigan
Dr. Huntington --Nebraska
Dr. Bock --Colorado
LKB --New York

And, these two have been added since that time.
Macaluso --California
Lyon --Michigan/Chicago?
He'd be better off showing the photos to an archeologist since Caylee's remains were only skeleton ~ which Dr. G said didn't show any signs of trauma! This is so infuriating! What does he want to prove that somebody shot or beat Caylee? There must be something very damaging to his client that we haven't even heard about yet to explain why he needs all these experts to see the photos. :confused: MOO

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:27 PM
If they've hired Sr, he is too old. He could not and did not even make sense on the stand in Spector. Kobi, he has dropped off the face of the earth.

Baez makes me ill; I've never seen an attorney want to make so much face time off his client other than Garagos. Sad, it's a real sad thing, but given his history with child killers what could we expect?:crying:

I believe it WAS the senior Spitz. Here's the list:

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/witness_list_for_the_defense.html

If you pay enough, you can get ANYone to testify.

Jester
06-18-2009, 10:28 PM
It would appear that's exactly what they did. And they made a showing of their new bling at "Caylee's Memorial."

All 3 of the unincarcerated A's were tinkling and clanking throughout the service, with Lee even kissing his wrist. Twice. Presumably his cremains jewelry was a bracelet.

Cindy loves her bling. (Now would be a good time for someone to post the still of her from the Early Show wearing about a dozen necklaces, a couple hundred bracelets, and those tributes to George on her ears.)

I'm sorry, but I find that completely not normal. I realize that various companies have popped up with new and wild ideas about what to do with the remains of humans, but I find it just plain creepy. Personally, I think the deceased should be put to rest, not jangling around on people's ears and necks.

CelticDawn
06-18-2009, 10:29 PM
He'd be better off showing the photos to an archeologist since Caylee's remains were only skeleton ~ which Dr. G said didn't show any signs of trauma! This is so infuriating! What does he want to prove that somebody shot or beat Caylee? There must be something very damaging to his client that we haven't even heard about yet to explain why he needs all these experts to see the photos. :confused: MOO


Nope.

THE most damaging thing to his client is JOSE BAEZ.

bottom line.

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:30 PM
He'd be better off showing the photos to an archeologist since Caylee's remains were only skeleton ~ which Dr. G said didn't show any signs of trauma! This is so infuriating! What does he want to prove that somebody shot or beat Caylee? There must be something very damaging to his client that we haven't even heard about yet to explain why he needs all these experts to see the photos. :confused: MOO Photos don't tell the entire story. And Unfortunately, it's too late to examine her bones. So he's gonna pay a huge fee to have someone agree with Dr. G imo.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:32 PM
Pardon this little OT: When my eldest was a little and I'd be upset with him for some reason, he'd say "Mommy, why are you making those ugly eyebrows at me?" :scared:

LOL And I'm sure my eyebrows were nothing compared with Mrs. Eyebrows herself.
LOL Annie!
Seriously, if I had eyebrows like that, I'D be covering them with bangs too! Scary! Maybe lighten them, reshape them, something ... yikes! :eek:

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:32 PM
He'd be better off showing the photos to an archeologist since Caylee's remains were only skeleton ~ which Dr. G said didn't show any signs of trauma! This is so infuriating! What does he want to prove that somebody shot or beat Caylee? There must be something very damaging to his client that we haven't even heard about yet to explain why he needs all these experts to see the photos. :confused: MOO


Dr Reichs deals with bones. But there are no bones for her to examine.

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 10:32 PM
Get the chili recipe and the crown is YOURS. Guaranteed. Forever.
I would PAY to see Cindys face and her response if someone emailed her asking for her famous chili recipe!!! Would she charge? :laugh:

Jester
06-18-2009, 10:33 PM
And no wonder that Conway didn't appear on the same morning news program with the Anthonys. He actually used the word "remains" in his motion to prevent release of the autopsy. I think his days of representing reprehensible duo are numbered.

Also, someone needs to explain the Sunshine Laws to Conway. The last couple of times I've heard him speak, he insinuates that the prosecution is leaking the evidence when in fact, it's the....now follow me here, Conway....the law.

What were the Anthonys calling Cayleys murder again ... the tragic event? Something like that? If they can find a way to avoid stating the facts, they will. Personally, I think a mother murdering her own child is horrific, not tragic. A ski accident is tragic.

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:34 PM
I would PAY to see Cindys face and her response if someone emailed her asking for her famous chili recipe!!! Would she charge? :laugh:
Someone email her and ask her which brand she uses.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:34 PM
I think Dr. Seuss might be a good oen for Baez to use to write his "motions." I put that in quotes becausethey are not like any motions my daughter had to write when she was in law school.
LOL Sandy ... at least they would rhyme and make sense! :tonguewag:

really3997
06-18-2009, 10:37 PM
I would PAY to see Cindys face and her response if someone emailed her asking for her famous chili recipe!!! Would she charge? :laugh:

I am sorry the whole chili thing makes me think of the Soprano's:scared:

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Here is the list of folks that Baez said he wanted to show the autopsy photos to.

Dr. Lee --CT
Dr. Kathy Reichs --NC and Canada
Dr. Fierro --Washington D.C.
Dr. Spitz --Michigan
Dr. Huntington --Nebraska
Dr. Bock --Colorado
LKB --New York

And, these two have been added since that time.
Macaluso --California
Lyon --Michigan/Chicago?
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I am waiting to see what happens to Macaluso with the CA BAR. Kinda funny when you think of it, but F Lee Bailey was disbarred for misusing clients money which sounds like exactly what Macaluso did.

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Nope.

THE most damaging thing to his client is JOSE BAEZ.

bottom line.

Well, that's a good thing then ~ as long as her conviction doesn't get overturned. :biggrin:

joolz
06-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Dr. Doolittle
Dr. Krevorkian
Dr. Laura (yuck)


Dr. No
Dr. Feelgood
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman

bchand
06-18-2009, 10:39 PM
YES...He did...as many times as he threatened...he has no ----- to get up and really leave.

But but the funniest part was where Cindy threatened to take the mic off and leave - next scene - Cindy sitting there with the mic ON.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:39 PM
He'd be better off showing the photos to an archeologist since Caylee's remains were only skeleton ~ which Dr. G said didn't show any signs of trauma! This is so infuriating! What does he want to prove that somebody shot or beat Caylee? There must be something very damaging to his client that we haven't even heard about yet to explain why he needs all these experts to see the photos. :confused: MOO
It does seem like overkill, huh, sun?
or what's necessary if your client is really, really, really guilty!:sneaky:

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:39 PM
What were the Anthonys calling Cayleys murder again ... the tragic event? Something like that? If they can find a way to avoid stating the facts, they will. Personally, I think a mother murdering her own child is horrific, not tragic. A ski accident is tragic. Yet they don't know the DATE of the "tragic event." I think the "tragic event" to them was when the body was found, not when they really lost Caylee. jmo

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 10:40 PM
I am one subdivision over, I could walk but that would be against the FLB code and I have my eye on this years crown:tonguewag:

I am sorry the whole chili thing makes me think of the Soprano's:scared:
Your posts make me burst out laughing! :thumbsup:

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 10:41 PM
It does seem like overkill, huh, sun?
or what's necessary if your client is really, really, really guilty!:sneaky:
I believe it's called "smoke and mirrors."

joolz
06-18-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm sorry, but I find that completely not normal. I realize that various companies have popped up with new and wild ideas about what to do with the remains of humans, but I find it just plain creepy. Personally, I think the deceased should be put to rest, not jangling around on people's ears and necks.

I agree it's creepy, but no more creepy than Cindy wearing George's um, gold-plated, um, spheres as earrings.:sneaky:

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:43 PM
Photos don't tell the entire story. And Unfortunately, it's too late to examine her bones. So he's gonna pay a huge fee to have someone agree with Dr. G imo.

I thought he had experts there to examine her bones before she was cremated. I agree though he's spending a lot of somebody's money for nothing! :unsure: MOO

really3997
06-18-2009, 10:43 PM
Your posts make me burst out laughing! :thumbsup:

Thank you...:cool:

joolz
06-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Terminal Event, IIRC

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Dr. No
Dr. Feelgood
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman

Dr. Evil :biggrin:

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:44 PM
What were the Anthonys calling Cayleys murder again ... the tragic event? Something like that? If they can find a way to avoid stating the facts, they will. Personally, I think a mother murdering her own child is horrific, not tragic. A ski accident is tragic.
Hi Jester! Yes Caylee's Tragedy or Caylee's terminal event ... never Caylee's murder ... :mad:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 10:47 PM
Maybe she can't find a blouse that will fit her...lol

<snipped to address>


... :sneaky: ...

Unleashed
06-18-2009, 10:48 PM
YES...He did...as many times as he threatened...he has no ----- to get up and really leave.

He could reach over and grab them off Cindy's ears, just for a moment.

JMO

Explorer
06-18-2009, 10:49 PM
Hi everyone. Is there a hearing tomorrow?

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 10:50 PM
I *hope* you are right, CRRJJ, but I think NG would be the last person in the world that Cindy would give any kind of interview to. The little bit I saw on her announcement was just showing clips of the depo etc. I would give my eyeteeth if it was new material.

I think her Friday show was put together early. She's obviously on vaca this week. I'm sure it's just a medley of Cindy's video hits. :laugh:

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:51 PM
I am sorry the whole chili thing makes me think of the Soprano's:scared:

OK...so take a gun with you when you go...I would be right behind you...but I don't live there...:tonguewag::tonguewag:

Explorer
06-18-2009, 10:52 PM
How are they being allowed to get away with all this?

really3997
06-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Just jumping in here...I'll do it! If no one else already did! This story just gets richer and richer....hello all.....lol

:scared: be careful new girl.....

Dick Tracy
06-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Nope.

THE most damaging thing to his client is JOSE BAEZ.

bottom line.

I second this. The waterboy, the same waterboy who tried to sneak something like a plastic bracelet to the PRP in his sock. Mr. Unethical. I have no respect for him. None. He has a shady past, he's nothing more than an ambulance chaser. Might have been having sex with his client at his office, so we've heard. What was that all about ? Charity?

The state is going to eat him alive. Even though he's not the "lead attorney", he's still got his fat head face in the media, sometimes yucking it up for the camera. This case has the waterboy thinking it will elevate his stature.

If any of you think you've seen it all, you ain't seen nothing yet. When the trial starts, he'll trip all over his words. Linda Burdick will be short, succinct, precise, and professional.

This case is a SLAM DUNK.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 10:53 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that Cindy will find errors that the ME made - after all, Cindy knows EVERYTHING. moo

It's just science, after all. Junk science, mostly.

Oh, and the ME has it in for Casey, too. :rolleyes:

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 10:53 PM
I think her Friday show was put together early. She's obviously on vaca this week. I'm sure it's just a medley of Cindy's video hits. :laugh:

I wonder if NG will take requests and dedications on the hit list? :laugh:

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 10:53 PM
Just jumping in here...I'll do it! If no one else already did! This story just gets richer and richer....hello all.....lol

No, go for it...we're all chicken sh!t

sunstar
06-18-2009, 10:53 PM
Hi everyone. Is there a hearing tomorrow?

Yes. George, Cindy and Brad Conway. :smile:

Explorer
06-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Thanks I hope Judge Strictland smacks them down good!

cassidy
06-18-2009, 10:55 PM
You know, denjet, the Anthony's have acted above the laws since this whole tragic thing happened. They seem to be saying, we'll handle the home front. We have it under control. Forget about the 911 calls. Some one is holding our grand-daughter and Casey is protecting us all.

These people have to be grieving, I'll give them that, but they are not remorseful, IMO.


In order to be grieving, they'd have to think about Caylee occassionaly and what she went through. If they did that, under normal circumstances, they'd get angry at the person who was responsible for Caylee's well-being and totally screwed it up. Namely their daughter. They don't seem to have gotten to that point and I doubt that they ever will. Caylee is gone and there is no going back and fixing that. They are now focused on freeing Casey. They forgot to grieve.

JMO

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 10:55 PM
:scared: be careful new girl.....

"be careful new girl" :lol::lol:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 10:56 PM
By the time they are charged, if they are charged, who in the world will even give a hoot anymore if they cry "victim"? They've worn out public sympathy to such a degree already. IMO.

I just think this case is really different than the norm, as far as family members. Dunno.

I so agree. How many crime victim families/grieving grandparents attract protesters (low lifes though most of them were) to their home?

The A's do more than wear out public sympathy. They inflame the public.

denjet
06-18-2009, 10:57 PM
You know, denjet, the Anthony's have acted above the laws since this whole tragic thing happened. They seem to be saying, we'll handle the home front. We have it under control. Forget about the 911 calls. Some one is holding our grand-daughter and Casey is protecting us all.

These people have to be grieving, I'll give them that, but they are not remorseful, IMO.
True. I even felt sorry for them in the beginning and I felt that in their hearts they knew something bad happened to Caylee but just couldn't believe it or deal with it ... but that didn't last long when they started attacking LE, TES, FBI and anyone else who got in their way and wouldn't go along with their program ...

really3997
06-18-2009, 10:58 PM
OK...so take a gun with you when you go...I would be right behind you...but I don't live there...:tonguewag::tonguewag:

I am a lover not a fighter.no weapons talk..please don't get me in band camp...:sad:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 10:58 PM
No doubt. She's the one who told us all that DNA isn't reliable. :rolleyes: I just hope they make her explain to Dr. G where she went wrong. While she's working and has a knife in her hand.

Or those big honkin garden shears she uses to, ahem, access the chest cavity. :sneaky:

Pruddennce
06-18-2009, 11:02 PM
Well sure it is. But if the Ants don't like the way it was explained, they are going to look for another somebody to explain it again. And so on until they find someone who will explain it correctly ( at least to them ). Until that time, they want it sealed. Simple huh? :rolleyes:

JMO

someone to explain she might not be dead.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

crimeq
06-18-2009, 11:03 PM
I've been re-listening to the entire CinA interviews w/LE in August. Not through all of them yet, but I am up to the point where LE is saying to her, this doesn't make sense, these people don't exist, lies, how would you feel if this were someone NOT your daughter, and Cindy flip-flops between saying "I don't know" and actually whimpering. Still not letting go of her story(s) though.

Of course, listening to her again brings up all kinds of questions for me, but one I haven't seen addressed is Casey's working hours. Yes, I know she could "work from home" (cough cough). The last time George claims to see Caylee was when Casey took her out of the house at 12:50 p.m.--Casey was "going to work" and dropping off Caylee at the nanny's.

I'm wondering, with this dream job of hers, if she EVER had to show up for work before noon. Did George ever see her leave the house "for work" before noon? I worked in corporate America for years and I guarantee, business gets done in the mornings. It doesn't wait for you to rise-and-shine at 10, 11, noon. I've even had my share of 7:30 a.m. meetings --don't like them, but I was there (fortunately, breakfast was usually brought in by the company, so the pain was eased somewhat).

Do we have cell "pings" of her out and about in the mornings, on weekdays? What's the earliest weekday call we ever have?

Also, Cindy said Casey was off on Sat/Sun and usually at home. Ummm, event planners for Universal would most likely NOT be off on the weekends. Lots of events get planned over the weekends and the event planners are there to see that every detail is met, and on call for problems.

In all, what a bunch of crapola Cindy is spouting in these interviews! How could she have believed all the stuff Casey was feeding her in the 31 days Caylee was missing? NONE of it makes any sense! Why didn't she get involved LONG before Day 31?

Sandy001
06-18-2009, 11:03 PM
True. I even felt sorry for them in the beginning and I felt that in their hearts they knew something bad happened to Caylee but just couldn't believe it or deal with it ... but that didn't last long when they started attacking LE, TES, FBI and anyone else who got in their way and wouldn't go along with their program ... Then they turned this whole thing into a money making scheme and aligned themselves with convicted felons. Bullies all

shelkobe
06-18-2009, 11:04 PM
If it's Spitz sr. he can kiss his case goodbye. I don't think he should be testifying anymore. In Spector one he wouldn't stick to the subject, ignored questions and was downright rude and confrontational with the Prosecutor. All he wanted to talk about was shooting calves in the head. (blech)
Is there video of that somewhere? I have heard so many references to his testimony but only skimmed that trial and saw a few witnesses, but Spitz was not one of them.

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:04 PM
Or those big honkin garden shears she uses to, ahem, access the chest cavity. :sneaky:

Yeah, those'd make you stop and think! :w00t:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:05 PM
But, but... there are different kinds of chocolate and it is NOT all the same..you know that one piece left in the box that no one wants.. I have to make sure:crying:

You SLAY me, really! Really! :laugh:

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:05 PM
Any thoughts about what will happen at the hearing tomorrow? Will Judge Strictland take the bull by the horns and put an end to the anthony crybabies?

boo
06-18-2009, 11:06 PM
Just jumping in here...I'll do it! If no one else already did! This story just gets richer and richer....hello all.....lol

I'll just bet you will. :laugh:

Been doing a lot of thinking today. You? :sneaky:

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Is there video of that somewhere? I have heard so many references to his testimony but only skimmed that trial and saw a few witnesses, but Spitz was not one of them.

I don't know if there is any tape left anywhere. It was days of meandering testimony. I was ready to tear my hair out by the time it finished.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:08 PM
Probably easier to list who he has *not* hired.

Dr. Seuss
Dr. Spock
Dr. Jekyll

Actually, Dr. Seuss could come in handy as they polish up their opening and closing statements. :rolleyes:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:11 PM
Yeah, Dr. Laura would make way to much sense for those idiots.

Yep. When you have children, you put the children's interests first.

What a concept.

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:11 PM
Dr. Evil :biggrin:

Dr. Strangelove

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:12 PM
Thanks. Just wondered if it differed from what he said yesterday.

You need to ask? :sneaky:

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:13 PM
Dr. Kildare
Dr. Ben Casey

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:16 PM
What were the Anthonys calling Cayleys murder again ... the tragic event? Something like that? If they can find a way to avoid stating the facts, they will. Personally, I think a mother murdering her own child is horrific, not tragic. A ski accident is tragic.

Terminal Event. <insert more than 3 rolling eye icons here>

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:16 PM
Dr. Dre
Dr. Perry Johnson[A famous DJ]

really3997
06-18-2009, 11:17 PM
night all the walls are vibrating louder than usual tonight. fingers crossed for tomorrow:seeya:

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:18 PM
I admire Judge Strickland. He, IMO, has Casey's number.

I think he will please us all.

I think so to. I think he has had enough.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Your posts make me burst out laughing! :thumbsup:

Me, too! Me, too! :lol:

boo
06-18-2009, 11:19 PM
Dr. J
Dr. Demento

Okay, that'll be enough of that game. I may as well have said Dr. Marcus Welby. :wink:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:20 PM
Hi everyone. Is there a hearing tomorrow?

There is. 11am Or-Lawn-Doe time. But we don't know if it'll be televised yet.

boo
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
night all the walls are vibrating louder than usual tonight. fingers crossed for tomorrow:seeya:

Cindy and George going at it again?

101Spots
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
Actually, Dr. Seuss could come in handy as they polish up their opening and closing statements. :rolleyes:

Nah, too erudite for Jose.

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
There is. 11am Or-Lawn-Doe time. But we don't know if it'll be televised yet.

Think what you will of the ol' Lenster, but we wouldn't have half a case without him, lol.

myownopera
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
I think so to. I think he has had enough.


Just go here -- what is the hearing concerning? Thanks

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:21 PM
I think so to. I think he has had enough.

I can't blame him if he has.

really3997
06-18-2009, 11:23 PM
Cindy and George going at it again?

ok that's just gross...:scared:

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:23 PM
Dr. J
Dr. Demento

Okay, that'll be enough of that game. I may as well have said Dr. Marcus Welby. :wink:


Dr. Bizzaro...if you don't know...don't ask...

Kind of like that military thingy of don't ask...don't tell

sunstar
06-18-2009, 11:23 PM
Okay, that'll be enough of that game. I may as well have said Dr. Marcus Welby. :wink:

Good idea! It would be nice to have our forum open tomorrow for the hearing. :wink:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:23 PM
I wonder if NG will take requests and dedications on the hit list? :laugh:

I think Moonie should email NG some of her *enhanced* still shots from the various interviews, hearings, depositions. Can you just imagine that one of her side-by-side with the Grinch aired on NG? :laugh:

101Spots
06-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Dr. Kildare
Dr. Ben Casey

Ooooooooooo........

Dr. Kildare. <swoon>

Ah, memories.

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Dr. J
Dr. Demento

Okay, that'll be enough of that game. I may as well have said Dr. Marcus Welby. :wink:

OMG! Dr. Dimento! Do you remember him:thumbsup: The cockroach that ate Cincinati

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:24 PM
Cindy and George going at it again?

No, not doing it...prolly vibrating from the yelling and screaming.

boo
06-18-2009, 11:24 PM
ok that's just gross...:scared:

hahaha, I meant fighting, but okay. :laugh:

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:26 PM
Yes. And even professionals get po'd sometimes. He has got to be tired of all the shanigans the Anthony are throwing at him.

I know that I'd be P*ssed.

Courts all over the country are backed up and this bunch is wasting the court's time with their whining. I can see where that could get on a Judge's last nerve.

really3997
06-18-2009, 11:26 PM
hahaha, I meant fighting, but okay. :laugh:

My dh snores (sshh don't tell him I told you) and by that I mean LOUDLY

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:26 PM
I think Moonie should email NG some of her *enhanced* still shots from the various interviews, hearings, depositions. Can you just imagine that one of her side-by-side with the Grinch aired on NG? :laugh:

:laugh: I wonder why NG is suddenly focusing on Cindy? Is the sympathy gone?

boo
06-18-2009, 11:26 PM
Dr. Bizzaro...if you don't know...don't ask...

Kind of like that military thingy of don't ask...don't tell

Well, it's like this (I've morphed into Lenny), when I start naming doctors that are older than dirt, I concede.

Besides, I personally liked Dr. Pepper. Kinda intersperses with Perper, PRN

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:26 PM
...and you know what happens when you inflame the citizenry....:w00t:

Beer bottle baseball and ~hammer~ time. :laugh:

Pruddennce
06-18-2009, 11:27 PM
I've been re-listening to the entire CinA interviews w/LE in August.

She got minimally involved on July 3rd after Casey sent her on a wild goose chase to Universal to 'see caylee'. she sent Lee out. then they dropped it. Lee already had a handle on Casey thru her web postings....he could have easily found out her new hangout was Fusion....inquire there first. after all, she sent several 'broadcasts' to her friends cell phones and posted ad nauseam on her web pages about it.

so I sit here wondering the same thing: why didnt junior PI Lee follow up on her fusion postings or at least ask Jesse and Ryan if they heard from her, where is she hanging out? they received those broadcasts on their cells. they were her 'old friends'.....

secondly, those August interviews: Cindy sat there with Family Services and listened to Casey tell them the EXACT SAME STORY she told LE AND that she worked at Universal and had paystubs to prove it! this is now August; Casey already said I LIED...I DONT WORK THERE....then sits there and says she does and that LE isnt telling the truth......and Cindy sits mute and allows, once again, for a HUGE LIE to be delivered to a new audience.

Cindy, IMO, allowed that lie to be told again because she knew darn well family services would not have a child to take away from that house any time in the future. she didnt care that they might be jeopardizing their standing as caregivers if they removed Caylee from Casey's care.

she knew it wasnt going to get to that point, because:

IMO: she KNEW SHE WAS GONE....as in DECEASED. let's lie to yet another investigative body......

two psychopaths....no, make that FOUR.

each of them knew she was not BONDING IN JACKSONVILLE with Jeff Hopkins and his son....SHE was right there, never left. and they did nothing; they certainly had reason to make a welfare check call when they picked the car up.

psychopaths.....ALL FOUR OF THEM.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:27 PM
Just a few more

Dr. Steve Hardy
Dr. Alan Quartermane

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:28 PM
Beer bottle baseball and ~hammer~ time. :laugh:

23 cents and 2 pebbles against the house, isn't it?

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Me, too! Me, too! :lol:
omg. EVERYONE has been a RIOT tonight, I've been laughing for pages and pages! (the "Doctor series" has been especially hilarious!) Thanks, guys - it feels so good!

LOVE this forum! :lol: :loveeyes:

bluwaters
06-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Think what you will of the ol' Lenster, but we wouldn't have half a case without him, lol.
Evening all!
This is the truth Lavinia -
Thank goodness for Lenny and his dive team.
Without Lenny, we would not be able to contrast Casey's lack of reaction to news of possible remains being found in the Little Econ river, to her strong reaction to the news of unidentified remains being found right where the OC left them.
We can be grateful to Lenny for that. :thumbup:

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:31 PM
My dh snores (sshh don't tell him I told you) and by that I mean LOUDLY

O/T Maybe he needs to have a sleep study. My DH used to snore so loud I could hear it two rooms away. It turns out he has sleep apnea, and that's dangerous. He has a C-PAP now, no more snoring.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:31 PM
someone to explain she might not be dead.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

We have a winner! :D

boo
06-18-2009, 11:31 PM
Evening all!
This is the truth Lavinia -
Thank goodness for Lennie and his dive team.
Without Lenny, we would not be able to contrast Casey's lack of reaction to news of possible remains being found in the Little Econ river, to her strong reaction to the news of unidentified remains being found right where the OC left them.
We can be grateful to Lenny for that. :thumbup:

And Lenny will be the first one to tell us, that was his plan all along. And I for one, will believe him. :drool:

myownopera
06-18-2009, 11:32 PM
Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. That's ok, though - I understand.

Unleashed
06-18-2009, 11:33 PM
Actually, Dr. Seuss could come in handy as they polish up their opening and closing statements. :rolleyes:


See Baez
See Baez sweat
Sweat, Baez, sweat.

See Cindy
See Cindy lie
Lie, Cindy, lie.

See Lee
See Lee slurp
Slurp, Lee, slurp

See George
See George hide
Hide, George, hide.

See Casey
See Casey sleep forever
Sleep forever, Casey, sleep forever.

JMO

seeing_eye
06-18-2009, 11:34 PM
Hi Jester! Yes Caylee's Tragedy or Caylee's terminal event ... never Caylee's murder ... :mad:

IMO, their referral of Caylee's death as a "terminal event" was because, at that time, I believe they were insinuating that Caylee was still alive and that someone else's body was found in the woods. Who knows, they may still try to say that! The DNA results don't get in the way with their theory since they don't really believe in "junk" science. I can't recall either George or Cindy ever saying the word "murder" or "killing" or "death" in reference to Caylee. Can anyone recall them ever saying that?

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Think what you will of the ol' Lenster, but we wouldn't have half a case without him, lol.

I've never had a problem with Lenny. You just gotta know when to listen and when to hit the fridge for snackies. :laugh:

bluwaters
06-18-2009, 11:36 PM
And Lenny will be the first one to tell us, that was his plan all along. And I for one, will believe him. :drool:
Personally, I have always thought that Lenny was working with LE when that scene occurred at the Little Econ.
I think LE put him up to it.

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:37 PM
She got minimally involved on July 3rd after Casey sent her on a wild goose chase to Universal to 'see caylee'. she sent Lee out. then they dropped it. Lee already had a handle on Casey thru her web postings....he could have easily found out her new hangout was Fusion....inquire there first. after all, she sent several 'broadcasts' to her friends cell phones and posted ad nauseam on her web pages about it.

so I sit here wondering the same thing: why didnt junior PI Lee follow up on her fusion postings or at least ask Jesse and Ryan if they heard from her, where is she hanging out? they received those broadcasts on their cells. they were her 'old friends'.....

secondly, those August interviews: Cindy sat there with Family Services and listened to Casey tell them the EXACT SAME STORY she told LE AND that she worked at Universal and had paystubs to prove it! this is now August; Casey already said I LIED...I DONT WORK THERE....then sits there and says she does and that LE isnt telling the truth......and Cindy sits mute and allows, once again, for a HUGE LIE to be delivered to a new audience.

Cindy, IMO, allowed that lie to be told again because she knew darn well family services would not have a child to take away from that house any time in the future. she didnt care that they might be jeopardizing their standing as caregivers if they removed Caylee from Casey's care.

she knew it wasnt going to get to that point, because:

IMO: she KNEW SHE WAS GONE....as in DECEASED. let's lie to yet another investigative body......

two psychopaths....no, make that FOUR.

each of them knew she was not BONDING IN JACKSONVILLE with Jeff Hopkins and his son....SHE was right there, never left. and they did nothing; they certainly had reason to make a welfare check call when they picked the car up.

psychopaths.....ALL FOUR OF THEM.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

You will not find one that agrees with you more than I.

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 11:37 PM
I think Moonie should email NG some of her *enhanced* still shots from the various interviews, hearings, depositions. Can you just imagine that one of her side-by-side with the Grinch aired on NG? :laugh:
I will never forget that picture - it is the most uncanny likeness I have ever seen between human and cartoon (well.....maybe after the sleestack/JVM comparison) :laugh:

boo
06-18-2009, 11:37 PM
IMO, their referral of Caylee's death as a "terminal event" was because, at that time, I believe they were insinuating that Caylee was still alive and that someone else's body was found in the woods. Who knows, they may still try to say that! The DNA results don't get in the way with their theory since they don't really believe in "junk" science. I can't recall either George or Cindy ever saying the word "murder" or "killing" or "death" in reference to Caylee. Can anyone recall them ever saying that?

Sounds like ugly coping to me.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:38 PM
Just go here -- what is the hearing concerning? Thanks

Release of the autopsy report.

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:39 PM
Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. That's ok, though - I understand.


Sorry, did you ask a question??? Ask again please.

boo
06-18-2009, 11:39 PM
I will never forget that picture - it is the most uncanny likeness I have ever seen between human and cartoon (well.....maybe after the sleestack/JVM comparison) :laugh:

Oh please... somebody send the Stan Laurel one, too.

I wonder if they've seen some of these.

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:40 PM
Heres my theory on the jailhouse remains tape. I think SHE was all over Baez. I think it may have been really sexual. Thats my theory.

Jester
06-18-2009, 11:40 PM
Yet they don't know the DATE of the "tragic event." I think the "tragic event" to them was when the body was found, not when they really lost Caylee. jmo

The tragic event was when they sat back and accepted Casey's lying, thievery, and child neglect.

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:40 PM
Sorry, did you ask a question??? Ask again please.

Opps...day late...dollar short...once again...:biggrin:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:41 PM
:laugh: I wonder why NG is suddenly focusing on Cindy? Is the sympathy gone?

Oh, I'd say that's a big 10-4, good buddy. But in new-and-improved (post Melinda Duckett) NG style, she'll get her opinion across without actually saying anything herself. I'm betting the way they put the clips together, Cindy will look like, well ... Cindy.

joolz
06-18-2009, 11:41 PM
I've never had a problem with Lenny. You just gotta know when to listen and when to hit the fridge for snackies. :laugh:

Lenny amused me for a long time with his hit-and-miss accuracies, but when he accused Kronk, he crossed a major line, imo. My opinion of him turned on a dime and hasn't turned back since. jmo

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:42 PM
I've never had a problem with Lenny. You just gotta know when to listen and when to hit the fridge for snackies. :laugh:

:laugh: Is that where this extra 10 lbs. came from? :sneaky:

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 11:42 PM
Oh please... somebody send the Stan Laurel one, too.

I wonder if they've seen some of these.
I was glad I was only drinking water when I saw that picture! Priceless!

Jester
06-18-2009, 11:43 PM
I agree it's creepy, but no more creepy than Cindy wearing George's um, gold-plated, um, spheres as earrings.:sneaky:

Oh dear ... Cindy should realize (through nursing) that it takes at least a year to recover from a serious personal loss, and that everything she's been doing, and is still doing, is not entirely rational. I wish she would sit back and take the time to properly mourn the loss of her family rather than constantly react to, or attempt to control, everything about Casey.

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:45 PM
Oh, I'd say that's a big 10-4, good buddy. But in new-and-improved (post Melinda Duckett) NG style, she'll get her opinion across without actually saying anything herself. I'm betting the way they put the clips together, Cindy will look like, well ... Cindy.

Mobile 1 to mobile 2: Ohhh, that's sly. :sneaky: NG can say the most horrible things in the world about CiMa without uttering a word herself. Smoooooth. :thumbup:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:45 PM
23 cents and 2 pebbles against the house, isn't it?

Yes, it was a fearsome scene. Pennies flying, limp hoses dribbling, wicked name calling ... a regular bloodbath. :rolleyes:

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:47 PM
Oh dear ... Cindy should realize (through nursing) that it takes at least a year to recover from a serious personal loss, and that everything she's been doing, and is still doing, is not entirely rational. I wish she would sit back and take the time to properly mourn the loss of her family rather than constantly react to, or attempt to control, everything about Casey.


I don't think sociopaths can mourn.

boo
06-18-2009, 11:47 PM
I don't have a creative bone in my body, but I would love to see an "artist's" rendering of Mr. Middle Finger Anthony as well.

crimeq
06-18-2009, 11:47 PM
I admire Judge Strickland. He, IMO, has Casey's number.

I think he will please us all.

Hi Witchy, he DOES have her number--now let's just hope he follows through for all of us :wink:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:47 PM
Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. That's ok, though - I understand.

I answered you, opera. The hearing is about the release of the autopsy report. Not sure whether we'll get to see it, or whether it will be "in camera" (closed to the public).

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 11:48 PM
Oh dear ... Cindy should realize (through nursing) that it takes at least a year to recover from a serious personal loss, and that everything she's been doing, and is still doing, is not entirely rational. I wish she would sit back and take the time to properly mourn the loss of her family rather than constantly react to, or attempt to control, everything about Casey.
When I heard Cindy telling Tim Miller "not to fight her, that she would win" or telling Tim to "not cross the line on Nancy Grace" - or telling Tim she was "sorry about his daughter but Caylee was alive"...

I wanted to reach through my monitor and choke that obnoxious #$%^&.:cursing:

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:48 PM
Yes, it was a fearsome scene. Pennies flying, limp hoses dribbling, wicked name calling ... a regular bloodbath. :rolleyes:

Got Casey off the dime to call 911, didn't it? Must have been a fierce battle. :rolleyes:

crimeq
06-18-2009, 11:48 PM
Terminal Event. <insert more than 3 rolling eye icons here>

and also "Caylee's Tragedy".

ETA her only tragedy was being born into the AntFam.

shelkobe
06-18-2009, 11:48 PM
I don't know if there is any tape left anywhere. It was days of meandering testimony. I was ready to tear my hair out by the time it finished.
I remember seeing snippets of testimony from Peaches and Cream, or some name like that, and I just couldn't believe the cast of characters. I regret not having the time to follow that trial more carefully. Perhaps missing Spitz was a good thing.

joolz
06-18-2009, 11:49 PM
Mobile 1 to mobile 2: Ohhh, that's sly. :sneaky: NG can say the most horrible things in the world about CiMa without uttering a word herself. Smoooooth. :thumbup:

CiMa? Wasn't that that awful medicinal tasting clear beer thingy that came out awhile back?:confused:

boo
06-18-2009, 11:49 PM
I will never forget that picture - it is the most uncanny likeness I have ever seen between human and cartoon (well.....maybe after the sleestack/JVM comparison) :laugh:

That's why it would be such a shame if GA never got to see it. Think Really would drop it by on her way over for that chili recipe?

Explorer
06-18-2009, 11:52 PM
IIRC Baez was not let in for a few hours after the jail house recording.

JMO

oh woops:sad:

Jester
06-18-2009, 11:52 PM
Terminal Event. <insert more than 3 rolling eye icons here>

Terminal Event reminds me of Soylent Green ... a SF movie where people's number came up and they reported for their terminal event.

Pruddennce
06-18-2009, 11:53 PM
Lenny amused me for a long time with his hit-and-miss accuracies, but when he accused Kronk, he crossed a major line, imo. My opinion of him turned on a dime and hasn't turned back since. jmo

im no fan, however, he has put himself out there as a live blogger with opinions....a few facts in between; however, I have the same feeling about Kronk...he came forward with AN ATTORNEY.

that nags at me.

there is more to Kronk. we havent seen it.

and there might be a reason for that attorney......not that he was involved but it wasnt just a case of a 'concerned citizen who could not rest until the BAG was checked..'..........

and the PI's....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:53 PM
When I heard Cindy telling Tim Miller "not to fight her, that she would win" or telling Tim to "not cross the line on Nancy Grace" - or telling Tim she was "sorry about his daughter but Caylee was alive"...

I wanted to reach through my monitor and choke that obnoxious #$%^&.:cursing:

Anymore I want to do that every time I see her on TV taking a breath to begin talking.

Rapunzel
06-18-2009, 11:53 PM
That's why it would be such a shame if GA never got to see it. Think Really would drop it by on her way over for that chili recipe?

Good idea...we could send her with a whole care package of stuff we would like G&C to see...:thumbsup:

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:54 PM
See Baez
See Baez sweat
Sweat, Baez, sweat.

See Cindy
See Cindy lie
Lie, Cindy, lie.

See Lee
See Lee slurp
Slurp, Lee, slurp

See George
See George hide
Hide, George, hide.

See Casey
See Casey sleep forever
Sleep forever, Casey, sleep forever.

JMO

Dear jury,

This girl of mine
Did not do the deed ...
Um, uh ...
That's all I got
So her you should freed.

I have no more questions.

:laugh:

summer4meplz
06-18-2009, 11:54 PM
Personally, I have always thought that Lenny was working with LE when that scene occurred at the Little Econ.
I think LE put him up to it.

I could easily believe that.....

Lavinia
06-18-2009, 11:55 PM
CiMa? Wasn't that that awful medicinal tasting clear beer thingy that came out awhile back?<STOLE YOUR CONFUSED>

:laugh: (I had a GF that loved that stuff, lol.)

Looks like the night shift needs to get here. I'm getting sleepy.

Nytol! :seeya: :wub:

MiamiNice1
06-18-2009, 11:56 PM
That's why it would be such a shame if GA never got to see it. Think Really would drop it by on her way over for that chili recipe?
Cindy would probably puposefully give us the wrong ingredients! :tonguewag:

joolz
06-18-2009, 11:56 PM
im no fan, however, he has put himself out there as a live blogger with opinions....a few facts in between; however, I have the same feeling about Kronk...he came forward with AN ATTORNEY.

that nags at me.

there is more to Kronk. we havent seen it.

and there might be a reason for that attorney......not that he was involved but it wasnt just a case of a 'concerned citizen who could not rest until the BAG was checked..'..........

and the PI's....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*


I don't know, Pru. Although I agree that there is something a little strange about Kronk's repeated searches, I think a lot of people would think we are all strange in our fixation on this case. You may be right, but I'm hoping that he only came forward with a lawyer because he'd seen as much of the Anthonys as we have, and knew he'd need representation just to be safe from them. jmo

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:56 PM
Heres my theory on the jailhouse remains tape. I think SHE was all over Baez. I think it may have been really sexual. Thats my theory.

Well, that would fit the Judge S qualifiers of "highly inflammatory" and likely to "harden" a jury's opinion of the odious one's guilt.

shelkobe
06-18-2009, 11:56 PM
23 cents and 2 pebbles against the house, isn't it?Too bad there's no video of Casey running outside and plucking all those pennies from the mulch. 'Cause you know she did. :laugh:

boo
06-18-2009, 11:57 PM
im no fan, however, he has put himself out there as a live blogger with opinions....a few facts in between; however, I have the same feeling about Kronk...he came forward with AN ATTORNEY.

that nags at me.

there is more to Kronk. we havent seen it.

and there might be a reason for that attorney......not that he was involved but it wasnt just a case of a 'concerned citizen who could not rest until the BAG was checked..'..........

and the PI's....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

That's bugged me, too, Pru. Then I wonder if we would ever be as far as we are without his involvement and I loosen the rope... a little.

adair
06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
Good Evening.....


Did I miss anything today while I was at work?

TIA

Pruddennce
06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
When I heard Cindy telling Tim Miller "not to fight her, that she would win" or telling Tim to "not cross the line on Nancy Grace" - or telling Tim she was "sorry about his daughter but Caylee was alive"...

I wanted to reach through my monitor and choke that obnoxious #$%^&.:cursing:

no class.

his isnt a threat, she says?

her existence is a threat.

all about WINNING and one upmanship: nothing new there. her first jailhouse call was ALL ABOUT CINDY. nothing about Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

crimeq
06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
She got minimally involved on July 3rd after Casey sent her on a wild goose chase to Universal to 'see caylee'. she sent Lee out. then they dropped it. Lee already had a handle on Casey thru her web postings....he could have easily found out her new hangout was Fusion....inquire there first. after all, she sent several 'broadcasts' to her friends cell phones and posted ad nauseam on her web pages about it.

so I sit here wondering the same thing: why didnt junior PI Lee follow up on her fusion postings or at least ask Jesse and Ryan if they heard from her, where is she hanging out? they received those broadcasts on their cells. they were her 'old friends'.....

secondly, those August interviews: Cindy sat there with Family Services and listened to Casey tell them the EXACT SAME STORY she told LE AND that she worked at Universal and had paystubs to prove it! this is now August; Casey already said I LIED...I DONT WORK THERE....then sits there and says she does and that LE isnt telling the truth......and Cindy sits mute and allows, once again, for a HUGE LIE to be delivered to a new audience.

Cindy, IMO, allowed that lie to be told again because she knew darn well family services would not have a child to take away from that house any time in the future. she didnt care that they might be jeopardizing their standing as caregivers if they removed Caylee from Casey's care.

she knew it wasnt going to get to that point, because:

IMO: she KNEW SHE WAS GONE....as in DECEASED. let's lie to yet another investigative body......

two psychopaths....no, make that FOUR.

each of them knew she was not BONDING IN JACKSONVILLE with Jeff Hopkins and his son....SHE was right there, never left. and they did nothing; they certainly had reason to make a welfare check call when they picked the car up.

psychopaths.....ALL FOUR OF THEM.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

They knew all along, Pru, didn't they :angry: When do you think they knew for sure that Caylee was dead?

boo
06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
Personally, I have always thought that Lenny was working with LE when that scene occurred at the Little Econ.
I think LE put him up to it.

Could they really have been that smart?

I sure hope so. That would seal the deal and be the icing on the cake.

Imperfect4
06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
Lenny amused me for a long time with his hit-and-miss accuracies, but when he accused Kronk, he crossed a major line, imo. My opinion of him turned on a dime and hasn't turned back since. jmo

I actually think there might be more to Kronk's story, Lenny aside. And I'm not casting a single aspersion on Kronk. I just think there could be more to the story of his discovery of the remains ... over and over.

True2Blues
06-18-2009, 11:59 PM
I remember seeing snippets of testimony from Peaches and Cream, or some name like that, and I just couldn't believe the cast of characters. I regret not having the time to follow that trial more carefully. Perhaps missing Spitz was a good thing.


It was, trust me! Between Spitz and DiMaio lying and arguing, I was to the point of having to force myself to listen. When Baden came on with his ridiculous theory about people being able to dance when their cerebral cortex had been severed, I was throwing rolled up socks at the TV! LOL

Just the thought of hearing Spitz testify again makes my head hurt!

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:00 AM
:laugh: Is that where this extra 10 lbs. came from? :sneaky:

Snackin and bloggin, baby. A recipe for weight gain. :thumbsup:

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:01 AM
That's bugged me, too, Pru. Then I wonder if we would ever be as far as we are without his involvement and I loosen the rope... a little.

you expressed what I was trying to say with regard to LE: perhaps they loosened the rope....bigger picture. but if there is a connection that leads back to the Anthonys, ten times removed from him, it will have to come out eventually *I would think*....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Rapunzel
06-19-2009, 12:01 AM
Cindy would probably puposefully give us the wrong ingredients! :tonguewag:


Well, I was not really gonna make it anyway...It was just a ploy to get in the door...

boo
06-19-2009, 12:01 AM
I actually think there might be more to Kronk's story, Lenny aside. And I'm not casting a single aspersion on Kronk. I just think there could be more to the story of his discovery of the remains ... over and over.

You think there's anything to that girlfriend of a neighbor to Kronk's roommate theory of hearing it in the jail? (or however it went)?

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:02 AM
Mobile 1 to mobile 2: Ohhh, that's sly. :sneaky: NG can say the most horrible things in the world about CiMa without uttering a word herself. Smoooooth. :thumbup:

Isn't it though? Wall-to-wall Cindy vids. No words necessary. :sneaky:

boo
06-19-2009, 12:03 AM
you expressed what I was trying to say with regard to LE: perhaps they loosened the rope....bigger picture. but if there is a connection that leads back to the Anthonys, ten times removed from him, it will have to come out eventually *I would think*....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

Maybe this is what put the death penalty right back on that table.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:04 AM
It was, trust me! Between Spitz and DiMaio lying and arguing, I was to the point of having to force myself to listen. When Baden came on with his ridiculous theory about people being able to dance when their cerebral cortex had been severed, I was throwing rolled up socks at the TV! LOL

Just the thought of hearing Spitz testify again makes my head hurt!

thanks for the brain freeze :D it was horrid!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

crimeq
06-19-2009, 12:04 AM
Mobile 1 to mobile 2: Ohhh, that's sly. :sneaky: NG can say the most horrible things in the world about CiMa without uttering a word herself. Smoooooth. :thumbup:

Yep, really looking forward to this :-) Am headed down to Galveston tomorrow for a while but planning on watching NG anyway :-) Can't miss it!

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:04 AM
and also "Caylee's Tragedy".

ETA her only tragedy was being born into the AntFam.

OMG, that one just goes right through me. As though the baby caused her own "tragedy." I despise that woman. :mad:

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:06 AM
Anymore I want to do that every time I see her on TV taking a breath to begin talking.
I'm with you on that, True! :angry:

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:07 AM
(I had a GF that loved that stuff, lol.)

Looks like the night shift needs to get here. I'm getting sleepy.

Nytol! :seeya: :wub:

Nighty night. :wub:

Unleashed
06-19-2009, 12:07 AM
Dear jury,

This girl of mine
Did not do the deed ...
Um, uh ...
That's all I got
So her you should freed.

I have no more questions.

:laugh:

:thumbsup::laugh:

True2Blues
06-19-2009, 12:08 AM
thanks for the brain freeze :D it was horrid!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*


Sorry, just one of those things that isn't fading fast enough! :w00t: LOL

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:09 AM
Good Evening.....


Did I miss anything today while I was at work?

TIA

Hearing tomorrow at 11am re: release of autopsy report.






RELEASE THE AUTOPSY REPORT! :tongueside:

True2Blues
06-19-2009, 12:10 AM
I'm with you on that, True! :angry:

My husband will come in from another room when he hears me start grumbling, saying "Just turn it off!" LOL

boo
06-19-2009, 12:12 AM
Well, I was not really gonna make it anyway...It was just a ploy to get in the door...

Oh, you just want in the door? That's easy! Just make sure you're carrying a checkbook in one hand, and a wad of cash in the other. :wink: Voila

crimeq
06-19-2009, 12:13 AM
I just love Judge Strickland and he seems to really care about justice for Caylee, but I do imagine that Jose is wearing him thin.

I just don't want Judge Strickland to waiver in his commitment to this case.

And I do not think that he will. JMO

I love Judge Strickland too, and I think he's being EVER so careful, every step along the way. He's had Casey's number from early-on --"Miss Anthony and the Truth are strangers." He does NOT want to see Casey walk, and certainly not on any impropriety in his courtroom that could be challenged down the road and lead to a mistrial--and I believe he wants all information to be "out there" according to the Sunshine Laws. I believe he will release the autopsy report tomorrow. But, if he doesn't, I'll believe that he has a larger view in mind. IMO he is VERY good, very cautious, understands fully the magnitude of this case and the players in it, and he's walking the walk to see justice done for little Caylee, while protecting Casey's rights to a fair trial.

That's why he's the Judge and I'm not. I'd be hangin' Casey high.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:13 AM
My husband will come in from another room when he hears me start grumbling, saying "Just turn it off!" LOL

Is that the standard dh line or something?

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:13 AM
You think there's anything to that girlfriend of a neighbor to Kronk's roommate theory of hearing it in the jail? (or however it went)?

I hate to speculate on how he might've known the bag was more than just a garbage bag among other garbage bags and trash. He called LE 3 days in a row in August. Then went back in December and called again. That's more than idle curiosity, imo, and more than just a *feeling* the bag might be important. Seems he was either tipped off that it was, indeed, an important bag ... or he looked in the bag when he first came upon it in August.

Again, not taking anything away from Kronk or saying he did anything wrong. I just suspect there's more to the story.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:13 AM
You think there's anything to that girlfriend of a neighbor to Kronk's roommate theory of hearing it in the jail? (or however it went)?

I do....maybe not those specifics, BUT SOMETHING.......

Lenny was the one who delivered the 'physical confrontation' story.....way before a doc dump...turns out that Lee told Jesse...Jesse told his father and his father told LE...(in one of doc narratives)

oh the tangled web....I do believe Lenny snooped around with alot of people....but didnt get entire 'scoops', just tidbits...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:14 AM
no class.

his isnt a threat, she says?

her existence is a threat.

all about WINNING and one upmanship: nothing new there. her first jailhouse call was ALL ABOUT CINDY. nothing about Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*
(I always look forward to your posts, Pru!)

I will stand and applaud the FIRST person to put a STOP to Cindy. She has gone too far with no signs of stopping.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:15 AM
I love Judge Strickland too, and I think he's being EVER so careful, every step along the way. He's had Casey's number from early-on --"Miss Anthony and the Truth are strangers." He does NOT want to see Casey walk, and certainly not on any impropriety in his courtroom that could be challenged down the road and lead to a mistrial--and I believe he wants all information to be "out there" according to the Sunshine Laws. I believe he will release the autopsy report tomorrow. But, if he doesn't, I'll believe that he has a larger view in mind. IMO he is VERY good, very cautious, understands fully the magnitude of this case and the players in it, and he's walking the walk to see justice done for little Caylee, while protecting Casey's rights to a fair trial.

That's why he's the Judge and I'm not. I'd be hangin' Casey high.

I totally agree. Hes not going to let any of them get away with anything.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:15 AM
I hate to speculate on how he might've known the bag was more than just a garbage bag among other garbage bags and trash. He called LE 3 days in a row in August. Then went back in December and called again. That's more than idle curiosity, imo, and more than just a *feeling* the bag might be important. Seems he was either tipped off that it was, indeed, an important bag ... or he looked in the bag when he first came upon it in August.

Again, not taking anything away from Kronk or saying he did anything wrong. I just suspect there's more to the story.

me2. he was following the news....there was an attempted search so why didnt he drop it? why wait 4 months?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

boo
06-19-2009, 12:17 AM
I hate to speculate on how he might've known the bag was more than just a garbage bag among other garbage bags and trash. He called LE 3 days in a row in August. Then went back in December and called again. That's more than idle curiosity, imo, and more than just a *feeling* the bag might be important. Seems he was either tipped off that it was, indeed, an important bag ... or he looked in the bag when he first came upon it in August.

Again, not taking anything away from Kronk or saying he did anything wrong. I just suspect there's more to the story.

If he saw that bag in August and waited until December, I just might have a big problem with that.

Does seem a little overkill on them simultaneous days in August. Maybe a little too overzealous for comfort. :wink:

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:18 AM
Oh, you just want in the door? That's easy! Just make sure you're carrying a checkbook in one hand, and a wad of cash in the other. :wink: Voila
I was thinking she would need a cross and garlic cloves. :sneaky:

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:18 AM
Here ya go ...

if you haven't seen this before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtZIs0E5zyY

Mr. Baez really isnt too easy on the eyes is he?

boo
06-19-2009, 12:19 AM
I do....maybe not those specifics, BUT SOMETHING.......

Lenny was the one who delivered the 'physical confrontation' story.....way before a doc dump...turns out that Lee told Jesse...Jesse told his father and his father told LE...(in one of doc narratives)

oh the tangled web....I do believe Lenny snooped around with alot of people....but didnt get entire 'scoops', just tidbits...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

That's what makes Lenny... Lenny. Just enough mishconshtrued tidbits to drive everybody nuts.

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:21 AM
If he saw that bag in August and waited until December, I just might have a big problem with that.

Does seem a little overkill on them simultaneous days in August. Maybe a little too overzealous for comfort. :wink:

Well, in his defense, he did try ... and try ... and try in August. If he indeed know what was in the bag, imagine how frustrated he must have been! Also, it seems to me he was very nervous about making the report (calling it in). And honestly? I think I would have been, too. The Anthonys (and Baez) had me very concerned from Day 31, and I would be very worried they would try to implicate whoever made the discovery.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:21 AM
I was thinking she would need a cross and garlic cloves. :sneaky:

That may not be a bad idea but might not warrant an invite in. Throw in a Bible though and it's a big maybe.

You know, Cindy and her spiritual newfound ways and all. :wink:

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:22 AM
(I always look forward to your posts, Pru!)

I will stand and applaud the FIRST person to put a STOP to Cindy. She has gone too far with no signs of stopping.

and likewise Miami! I feel the same way, CLAP CLAP....but alas, she is a psychopath....if she wasnt, she would have crawled under a rock a long time ago.....ON DAY ONE...WHO would want to challenge LE, the media and the public when the one fact hanging in the air, a child not reported ABDUCTED, the question was never answered by her daughter.

and she says so herself! "she's trying to tell us"....while she's out dancing, lunching, getting a tattoo, chatting up $500 phone bills, etc etc......

WHAT!

who would want to face the world with those facts and invite a debate?

A PSYCHOPATH!

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

boo
06-19-2009, 12:22 AM
Well, in his defense, he did try ... and try ... and try in August. If he indeed know what was in the bag, imagine how frustrated he must have been! Also, it seems to me he was very nervous about making the report (calling it in). And honestly? I think I would have been, too. The Anthonys (and Baez) had me very concerned from Day 31, and I would be very worried they would try to implicate whoever made the discovery.

But then why not just give up and abandon the whole thing? What's his motive for keeping on?

bchand
06-19-2009, 12:25 AM
Guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. That's ok, though - I understand.

Just getting back but if no one's posted so far, the hearing is about the autopsy report being released to the public. Casey is not going to be there.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:26 AM
Well, in his defense, he did try ... and try ... and try in August. If he indeed know what was in the bag, imagine how frustrated he must have been! Also, it seems to me he was very nervous about making the report (calling it in). And honestly? I think I would have been, too. The Anthonys (and Baez) had me very concerned from Day 31, and I would be very worried they would try to implicate whoever made the discovery.

well, here he is with LE.....directing LE but not walking up to

"T H E B A G'.... that he is directing the cop to look at.....he hangs back. the cop says its nothing.

Why didnt he plow on thru and SHOW HIM...why all the hanging back the first time?

nags at me. I dont believe him.

IMO

best regards,
Pru



*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:27 AM
My guess is that the judge will release the autopsy. The anthonys have no legal grounds.

Jester
06-19-2009, 12:27 AM
I don't think sociopaths can mourn.

That made me laugh ... indeed, what was I thinking!

It must be very painful being a sociopath and not having normal emotional reactions, or a normal way to process the loss of a loved one.

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:28 AM
But then why not just give up and abandon the whole thing? What's his motive for keeping on?

Well, if he knew what was in the bag, he had a duty and obligation. imo

If he was told by someone in August, or he looked in the bag himself, I'm sure he wasn't eager to reveal that information. But he did want to do the right thing about reporting the remains. Basically, he might've done the best he could for the situation he was in.

I'm just speculating here, of course.

Rapunzel
06-19-2009, 12:29 AM
Hey...I don't know what Kronk knew, when he knew it or who told him...just glad he found her...I don't care what the circumstance...many are never found or identified.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:29 AM
My guess is that the judge will release the autopsy. The anthonys have no legal grounds.

I feel the same way Explorer. legally, this wasnt THEIR battle.....BC erred by not submitting it to the appropriate parties.

dim? overwhelmed?

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Jester
06-19-2009, 12:29 AM
When I heard Cindy telling Tim Miller "not to fight her, that she would win" or telling Tim to "not cross the line on Nancy Grace" - or telling Tim she was "sorry about his daughter but Caylee was alive"...

I wanted to reach through my monitor and choke that obnoxious #$%^&.:cursing:

Cindy was very disrespectful to the very people that wanted to help Cayley ... it's no surprise that Hayley's dad told the family to get out of town. He has his own issues, but disrespect and rudeness towards the kindness of others is not one of them.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:30 AM
If you get a minuite go over to scared monkees there is a whole post on it.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:30 AM
Well, if he knew what was in the bag, he had a duty and obligation. imo

If he was told by someone in August, or he looked in the bag himself, I'm sure he wasn't eager to reveal that information. But he did want to do the right thing about reporting the remains. Basically, he might've done the best he could for the situation he was in.

I'm just speculating here, of course.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really trying to see both sides here. Bear with me, please.

Okay, so if that's the case, what was wrong with September, October and November? Why the 4 months to get his big boy pants on and finish the deed?

True2Blues
06-19-2009, 12:31 AM
Mr. Baez really isnt too easy on the eyes is he?

He's hard on the ears, that's for sure. He makes my brain ache.

It has to be said, I have not learned to respect him. My opinion of him has lowered and lowered, but respect? Nope. Ain't gonna happen either, unless he suddenly turns into a completely opposite person.

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:32 AM
well, here he is with LE.....directing LE but not walking up to

"T H E B A G'.... that he is directing the cop to look at.....he hangs back. the cop says its nothing.

Why didnt he plow on thru and SHOW HIM...why all the hanging back the first time?

nags at me. I dont believe him.

IMO

best regards,
Pru



*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I think he probably knew what was in the bag, however he came about the information. But he couldn't be forceful about it with LE without raising suspicion and then having to reveal his source for the information and/or the fact he looked in the bag himself.

It actually makes sense to me.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:32 AM
He's hard on the ears, that's for sure. He makes my brain ache.

It has to be said, I have not learned to respect him. My opinion of him has lowered and lowered, but respect? Nope. Ain't gonna happen either, unless he suddenly turns into a completely opposite person.

How anyone could find him attractive is soo beyond me.

True2Blues
06-19-2009, 12:33 AM
I feel the same way Explorer. legally, this wasnt THEIR battle.....BC erred by not submitting it to the appropriate parties.

dim? overwhelmed?

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

More like attention grabbing and as lacking in class as his clients. Three peas in a rotten pod.

Pruddennce
06-19-2009, 12:33 AM
Hey...I don't know what Kronk knew, when he knew it or who told him...just glad he found her...I don't care what the circumstance...many are never found or identified.

Rap, I do care. the world is full of liars and schemers......there are too many in this case that have not done the 'right thing' regarding the victim.

starting with the people who claimed to have loved her. but the grandmother decides not to tell LE important information.....the blanket....its missing...

IMO, if he heard thru so and so, thru so and so, thru so and so, HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH. and who knows maybe he has :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:33 AM
That made me laugh ... indeed, what was I thinking!

It must be very painful being a sociopath and not having normal emotional reactions, or a normal way to process the loss of a loved one.

I don't think they feel pain in that way. They feel pain when their own desires, urges, inclinations ... are thwarted. I don't think they feel pain for emotions they don't have and don't understand in other people.

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:35 AM
Hey...I don't know what Kronk knew, when he knew it or who told him...just glad he found her...I don't care what the circumstance...many are never found or identified.

ITA. Thank God for Kronk, for so many reasons.

Rapunzel
06-19-2009, 12:36 AM
Rap, I do care. the world is full of liars and schemers......there are too many in this case that have not done the 'right thing' regarding the victim.

starting with the people who claimed to have loved her. but the grandmother decides not to tell LE important information.....the blanket....its missing...

IMO, if he heard thru so and so, thru so and so, thru so and so, HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH. and who knows maybe he has :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

What has Kronk gained??? 5K What has he lost??? A lot more.

What do you think the circumstance was that he came upon this information?

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:38 AM
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really trying to see both sides here. Bear with me, please.

Okay, so if that's the case, what was wrong with September, October and November? Why the 4 months to get his big boy pants on and finish the deed?

As I understand it, the area was underwater during that time. Imagine, with how LE reacted in August, how difficult it would be to get their attention -- without drawing undo attention to yourself -- while the area was underwater and the bag perhaps barely or not even visible?

Imagine trying to point out the bag that's underwater and insist it's important? Imo, Kronk was trying to get the remains discovered while staying clear of trouble. His options under the circumstances were limited.

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Cindy was very disrespectful to the very people that wanted to help Cayley ... it's no surprise that Hayley's dad told the family to get out of town. He has his own issues, but disrespect and rudeness towards the kindness of others is not one of them.
ITA with you, Jester - disrespectful and ungrateful. Two horrible traits and the Anthonys have them in spades!

Rapunzel - I agree with you about Kronk. Thankfully, he found the remains....and not one word of thanks from the Anthonys.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:42 AM
I think he probably knew what was in the bag, however he came about the information. But he couldn't be forceful about it with LE without raising suspicion and then having to reveal his source for the information and/or the fact he looked in the bag himself.

It actually makes sense to me.

Had he revealed his source (if there was one), what is the worst thing that could/would have happened?

Would somebody lose their job because they helped an innocent baby come "home"?

Was it a race against time before omnipotent CA and her cronies found it first? These are the puzzle pieces that make me crazy.

Dick Tracy
06-19-2009, 12:43 AM
Here ya go ...

if you haven't seen this before.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtZIs0E5zyY

Jesus God Man!!! Stop with the double-talk!!! Spit it out. This man DOES not know how to form more than a simple sentence that makes sense to the listener. Either I'm going crazy, or EVERYONE in this damned case is double talking. How far will they take it? Everytime I hear a clip, see an video of these people, or read a transcript, most of what they are saying is a LOAD OF CRAP.

It's the same with the waterboy. He's not wrapped too tight.

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:43 AM
More like attention grabbing and as lacking in class as his clients. Three peas in a rotten pod.
(bolding mine) Perfect description!

boo
06-19-2009, 12:44 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am glad he found her, too. And like you, I agree that there is more to this angle than just pure luck.

I wonder if we will ever know the sordid details of how he came to be there.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:47 AM
.

It's the same with the waterboy. He's not wrapped too tight.

I don't know about that, but he is definitely capped too tight. And so is his wicked witch of the East of a wife, Elphaba. (or was it west?)

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:48 AM
Had he revealed his source (if there was one), what is the worst thing that could/would have happened?

Would somebody lose their job because they helped an innocent baby come "home"?

Was it a race against time before omnipotent CA and her cronies found it first? These are the puzzle pieces that make me crazy.

I can only speculate.

If he was tipped off to where the bag was through an acquaintance who worked at the jail and overheard the information, he obviously wouldn't want to rat out his friend. If someone at the jail was listening into Casey's meetings with her attorneys, it's big trouble ... and much bigger trouble to tell outsiders what was heard.

If he came upon the bag himself by accident and looked inside, if he then revealed he KNEW it was a child's remains, he would immediately be a suspect, and the way the A's operate, he would've become THE suspect ... in a heartbeat, imo.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:48 AM
On what???????????

Caylee? Casey? Cindy?

TIA

The release of the autopsy results.

boo
06-19-2009, 12:49 AM
ITA with you, Jester - disrespectful and ungrateful. Two horrible traits and the Anthonys have them in spades!

Rapunzel - I agree with you about Kronk. Thankfully, he found the remains....and not one word of thanks from the Anthonys.

That pizzed me off, Miami. Then again, they haven't thanked anybody to date who has really tried to help them. I wonder if they even thanked Lenny after he bailed the OC out the first time?

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:51 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am glad he found her, too. And like you, I agree that there is more to this angle than just pure luck.

I wonder if we will ever know the sordid details of how he came to be there.

I guess I only care if he was tipped off by an Anthony. Otherwise, I can't think of a scenario in which it would matter much to me.

I just thank the good lord he found her and (repeatedly) reported it.

Dick Tracy
06-19-2009, 12:52 AM
well, here he is with LE.....directing LE but not walking up to

"T H E B A G'.... that he is directing the cop to look at.....he hangs back. the cop says its nothing.

Why didnt he plow on thru and SHOW HIM...why all the hanging back the first time?

nags at me. I dont believe him.

IMO

best regards,
Pru




*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Nags at me too Pru.

They're looking for a missing two year old, by that time presumed dead by law enforcement? Right? It's a major case locally, and nationally, the entire nation is following it minute by freaking minute. And Kronk say's it's over there, pointing into the woods. It's dismissed in probably, what? 15 seconds?

And they still missed it. IMHO Kronk ain't the smartest knife in the drawer. He says okay to the deputy, sorry I brought you out here... but calls the tip line 2 more times, on two consecutive days!!!!!!! WTH?

And then he waits another three months to get back to the body.

Can you say low IQ?

boo
06-19-2009, 12:53 AM
I can only speculate.

If he was tipped off to where the bag was through an acquaintance who worked at the jail and overheard the information, he obviously wouldn't want to rat out his friend. If someone at the jail was listening into Casey's meetings with her attorneys, it's big trouble ... and much bigger trouble to tell outsiders what was heard.

If he came upon the bag himself by accident and looked inside, if he then revealed he KNEW it was a child's remains, he would immediately be a suspect, and the way the A's operate, he would've become THE suspect ... in a heartbeat, imo.

Speculation appreciated. Would that second scenario result in any part of her discovery being left out of the trial? That would be a travesty for sure and not worth it.

Ratting out a friend who may or may not lose his/her job? I don't know about that but I can cut him some slack.

Being a suspect would probably be the best scenario. They would be hard-pressed to pin the Winnie the Pooh blanket, hamper, bags, etc. on him.

Not to mention also, it was her own mother that didn't report her and her mother's car that had all the evidence in it. Seeing as they didn't know each other, that would be a very difficult case to build.

OT - I was arrested for murder, as was my mother... for an hour tops. Look at me, I'm fine. :scared:

Explorer
06-19-2009, 12:55 AM
Really. What does it say over there at the scared monkey's site?

Please share.


TIA

Too much info to mention just type scared monkees in your browser it will come up.

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 12:56 AM
That pizzed me off, Miami. Then again, they haven't thanked anybody to date who has really tried to help them. I wonder if they even thanked Lenny after he bailed the OC out the first time?
Yes, being ungrateful is so classless and it is magnified by 1,000,000 in a situation such as this. :thumbdown:

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 12:59 AM
Speculation appreciated. Would that second scenario result in any part of her discovery being left out of the trial? That would be a travesty for sure and not worth it.

Ratting out a friend who may or may not lose his/her job? I don't know about that but I can cut him some slack.

Being a suspect would probably be the best scenario. They would be hard-pressed to pin the Winnie the Pooh blanket, hamper, bags, etc. on him.

Not to mention also, it was her own mother that didn't report her and her mother's car that had all the evidence in it. Seeing as they didn't know each other, that would be a very difficult case to build.

OT - I was arrested for murder, as was my mother... for an hour tops. Look at me, I'm fine. :scared:

OMG, boo! Were you really? :scared:

I agree logic, common sense, and the evidence would ultimately prove Kronk to be an innocent party. But he might've endured hell on earth in the meantime if he admitted to looking in the bag.

If any of my speculations about what happened with him are correct, I think I can understand why he went about things the way he did.

Unless we find out it was an Anthony he was in cahoots with (which I don't think is the case), I'm willing to cut him some slack. Especially since he kept at it until he finally got the right response from LE.

Dick Tracy
06-19-2009, 01:00 AM
Too much info to mention just type scared monkees in your browser it will come up.

well, can you in one sentence tell us what all the HUB-BUB is about relative to what topic?

happygert
06-19-2009, 01:01 AM
Hi.. just getting back on so I apologize if this has been asked and answered. Does anyone know what time the hearing is tomorrow?

MiamiNice1
06-19-2009, 01:02 AM
if you do a search under care 2 petitions you will find one that has almost 2500 posts, and that pretty much sums up what the future "jury pool" thinks of CINDY anthony, alone.

That petition is hers and hers alone as to her culpability in this case.

just do a search on care2 site and you will see exactly what the
Public thinks of Cindy Anthony.
You're kidding - lol! Thanks for the info - going to Google it now! Should be interesting reading!

I was hoping Cindy would get a clue from the 3 inch stack of comments Larry King gave her.

crimeq
06-19-2009, 01:03 AM
And I was looking at all the cremation jewelery and teddy bear urns today, some one commented on them earlier and I do believe this is the jewelery that the Anthony's are now sporting.

JMO. of course.

Cindy wears a heart--it's on the longest chain she wears in her conglomeration of chains. One of the videos re-posted yesterday started with a still of Cindy that showed the heart very clearly. I'm convinced it is cremains jewelry. Lee was wearing a bracelet at the "memorial" service that he slobbered all over in his "CMA" performance. There was one clear shot of it. I found a cremains bracelet on a site that looked like the very bracelet Lee was wearing and posted that link at the time. I haven't noticed if George is wearing a similar bracelet ??? but will start paying closer attention in his sure-to-be upcoming media events. :sneaky:

boo
06-19-2009, 01:03 AM
OMG, boo! Were you really? :scared:

I agree logic, common sense, and the evidence would ultimately prove Kronk to be an innocent party. But he might've endured hell on earth in the meantime if he admitted to looking in the bag.

If any of my speculations about what happened with him are correct, I think I can understand why he went about things the way he did.

Unless we find out it was an Anthony he was in cahoots with (which I don't think is the case), I'm willing to cut him some slack. Especially since he kept at it until he finally got the right response from LE.

Arrest is such an ugly word. Detained and questioned is probably more accurate.

Therefore, I do understand the suspicion that would befall a person who happened upon a body. Especially one that was buried and you had a vested interest in the person.

That's where Kronk would get more slack. I'd give him a half hour, tops to be questioned and released. But, you're right about one thing. His life would have been hell after that fateful day.

anon-o-miss
06-19-2009, 01:04 AM
:seeya: Hi everyone.
I don't know if this was posted already but it's a link to the neighbor talking about the shovel being borrowed. It also shows her cell pings for that day which was June 18. If they get those pings in court it's not going to bode well for her.


http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19794634/index.html

crimeq
06-19-2009, 01:05 AM
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really trying to see both sides here. Bear with me, please.

Okay, so if that's the case, what was wrong with September, October and November? Why the 4 months to get his big boy pants on and finish the deed?

I think the area was still under water. :confused:

boo
06-19-2009, 01:06 AM
Cindy wears a heart--it's on the longest chain she wears in her conglomeration of chains. One of the videos re-posted yesterday started with a still of Cindy that showed the heart very clearly. I'm convinced it is cremains jewelry. Lee was wearing a bracelet at the "memorial" service that he slobbered all over in his "CMA" performance. There was one clear shot of it. I found a cremains bracelet on a site that looked like the very bracelet Lee was wearing and posted that link at the time. I haven't noticed if George is wearing a similar bracelet ??? but will start paying closer attention in his sure-to-be upcoming media events. :sneaky:

Lee's cremains bracelet more than likely had a lock of Casey's hair in it. He disgusts me to no end.

boo
06-19-2009, 01:08 AM
I think the area was still under water. :confused:

Thank you. Imperfect mentioned that and at least I can make some sense of that.

He would have looked really ridiculous wading through 5 feet of water, saying "I know she's in here, just give me a minute."

Explorer
06-19-2009, 01:09 AM
well, can you in one sentence tell us what all the HUB-BUB is about relative to what topic?

They have no legal grounds is what it comes down to.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 01:10 AM
:biggrin:Lee's cremains bracelet more than likely had a lock of Casey's hair in it. He disgusts me to no end.

It makes you wonder WHY they are so beholden to her.

Explorer
06-19-2009, 01:12 AM
I did and now where do I go from here???????

What is it that I am looking for?

TIA

How can you miss it its on the first page.

bchand
06-19-2009, 01:12 AM
Hi.. just getting back on so I apologize if this has been asked and answered. Does anyone know what time the hearing is tomorrow?

Evening gert - 11 am.

happygert
06-19-2009, 01:15 AM
Evening gert - 11 am.

Thanks.....

Imperfect4
06-19-2009, 01:19 AM
Thank you. Imperfect mentioned that and at least I can make some sense of that.

He would have looked really ridiculous wading through 5 feet of water, saying "I know she's in here, just give me a minute."

Zactly!

Off to bed, kids. See ya'll tomorrow.

One last time for today:

RELEASE THE AUTOPSY REPORT!!

bluwaters
06-19-2009, 01:25 AM
If anyone missed seeing this video earlier, I highly recommend it.
It is Kathi Belich interviewing Bill Sheaffer regarding the autopsy report.
Sheaffer is so clear and concise in his explanation of why the A's have no legal standing and
why Judge Strickland will release that autopsy report tomorrow! :thumbup:

RAW INTERVIEW: Legal Analyst Says Caylee Autopsy Report Will Be Released
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer talks the possible release of Caylee Anthony's autopsy report. (06/18/09)
http://www.wftv.com/video/19794253/index.html

ETA: Sheaffer makes one great observation after the other in this vid.
One of his best - He thinks that Conway and Baez are working "hand in glove."

crimeq
06-19-2009, 01:57 AM
OT - I was arrested for murder, as was my mother... for an hour tops. Look at me, I'm fine. :scared:

You're kidding, right? :scared:

Mamie
06-19-2009, 02:08 AM
How can you miss it its on the first page.


I clicked on Caylee Anthony (on the first page) but all the posts that showed on the first page after that were all "Tom Foolery" and not worth a darn----i.e. "Am I banned yet?" , "I hope not". JMO

crimeq
06-19-2009, 02:11 AM
The plan.
By Cindy Anthony.

Just Convince People she's a Missing Child!! (it's just that simple)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4PgTsO4GYI&feature=related

Look how Lee is hovering in the background throughout this video, right behind Cindy, seemingly to want to stop her :confused: but he doesn't say anything or try to get her under control or get her to go inside, stop her tirade? :confused: