Wednesday, June 17

[Imperfect4]

I don't think Casey would cover for Cindy long at all if they both had equal roles in the demise of Caylee. She's to selfish, IMO. She'd want her Mom right there with her, eating pork rinds.

Maybe the deal among them is that C&G stand behind her and more importantly, arrange to fund her defense (which I believe is exactly what's happening), and in return, she stays quiet.

Otherwise, everyone goes down, with Casey surely receiving the harshest punishment of the group.

[flipflop]

I bet George and Cindy and Lee will be bought into it..
Remember what Casey told somebody about what LA did to her?
Defense will probally say it warped her mind..imo

Can that be brought in without putting Casey on the stand?

[kitty1182]

Can that be brought in without putting Casey on the stand?

Don't know...I've been wondering that myself...

[KittyMom]

I disagree.

Think about it. She has a blow up with her mother in the early evening on the 15th of June. Her mother threatens to file for custody of Caylee and tells Casey to get the he..out of the house.

Casey begins phone communication with Tony at 7:05 pm non stop until 3:22 am and never mentions anything about the fight nor reveals her state of mind? She was on the verge of murder IMO. Very difficult for me to believe that to be the case.

Do you really believe this was 8 hours and 22 minutes of non stop casual conversation? LOL No chance in my mind. If that was the case we would already be aware that Tony knew nothing. Listen to the first interview with Tony. Listen to the second interview with Tony. Read the transcripts. I have done this over and over. Never has this critical time frame been covered. Just skipped over by LE. Why??? Because they are sitting on it. IMO.

This is one of those points that we'll just have to wait and see on. :smile:

[msgatorslayer]

I don't think she would either unless she thinks she will get off..
Surely she doesn't think that:rolleyes:

With all these high profile peeps on her side, excluding Baez, of course, she may think she can get away with it. :bored:

If she is worried, she sure doesn't show it.

[5boxersmom]

So no video release. I am sure Baez is happy. :rolleyes:

When will we find out about the autopsy?

[sunstar]

I don't care one bit about the jail house video where she reacted to Caylee's body being found. Glad that issue is over,

BUT I do want that autopsy report!

Come on media, get it!
Hi! I wasn't that interested in having it released either and it seemed like something the defense could have some success with on appeal. MOO

[msgatorslayer]

Maybe the deal among them is that C&G stand behind her and more importantly, arrange to fund her defense (which I believe is exactly what's happening), and in return, she stays quiet.

Otherwise, everyone goes down, with Casey surely receiving the harshest punishment of the group.

This is a common theory in the Darlie Routier case. That she did the deed, her hubby helped, and is still covering. But she can't say anything about his role without admitting her own.

[sunstar]

Thank you! You guys are truly awesome and I appreciate all the insights you provide out here. While I'm not "supposed" to be here while at work :) you guys really speak the thoughts I have "outloud" and it gives me a better prerogative as to this tragic event and the highly-dysfunctional family involved.

Hi and welcome :smile: There's a few of us who aren't supposed to be here while at work so join the club! I agree with your comment about the highly-dysfunctional family ~ that they are, and more. MOO.

[comemonday]

Thanks for coming out to say hello. :seeya:

There are a lot of lurkers/readers that follow along this sad case.
Its hard to look away from what you know will be a train wreck!

I feel that if Cindy had only gotten her daughter some psychiatric help, that Caylee would still be alive.

At the very least, she should have held her accountable to the consquences of her poor choices, like the stealing.

But no, now we clearly see that Cindy wants Casey to get away with murder. The murder of Caylee, their grandchild.

Its inconscienable !

Thank you for the welcome :) I see that this family is so warped into trying to protect/defend their daughter/sister, but repeating everything from the beginning... 31 days? 911 calls? cleaning of cars? denying assistance from professional search groups, etc., etc. I just don't get how this family can continue to spew nonsense about not knowing ANYTHING about what happened. It drives me nuts to hear them discuss the "good" they are/are seeking to do with this foundation when they did NOTHING for their granddaughter. I don't care that the jailhouse video is sealed (showing Casey's reaction) because that will come out at trial I'm sure. The autopsy report, which I feel (IMO) has already been shared w/George & Cindy will show details that relate to Casey that they cannot deny.. KARMA

[Justice4All2]

I do not believe now, or ever have, that the video of Casey Anthony's jail house meltdown will see the light of day ... not even at trial. I don't think it's relevant to guilt/innocence per se. Those who would view it in the public or at time of trial would probably not be much persuaded one way or the other. It cuts both ways. Those that believe her to be guilty of the crime by all the other evidence presented don't need the convincing. If there are one or more on that jury that is not already convinced by her behavior leading up to the discovery of the body and the testimony and evidence, a video that could be open to interpretation isn't going to do it either. The prosecution doesn't need it and risk getting the verdict overturned on appeal. I think the judge did the exact right thing.

[imc_e]

Hi! I wasn't that interested in having it released either and it seemed like something the defense could have some success with on appeal. MOO

Hi!

I trust the Judge made the right decision.

But with the autopsy being direct evidence to this case and the murder..factual points in an experts opinion on how she was killed...

I want that one!

Pluuuuueaze.

[Sandy001]

I would be willing to bet that if the judge pandered to the Ants on this video, he will do the same on the autopsy report. The public will not see it. I personally do not care one way or the other. Just get on with the trial.

Of course lyon will say cindy and george made casey do it. UGH!!

This is her agenda in all killers she defends. G&C are NOT partiies in this case (yet). Think of all the women who have been viciously raped and then murdered. The desires of their families do not file to seal the autopsy REPORT. Remember, the Judge has already sealed the PICTURES> No one will force the Anthonys to read this report - and we know they will be at the trial and will hear it then.

I seriously doubt there is anything to hide in the autopsy report anyay. The ME has already stated her opinion. The Anthonys KNOW the body was mostly skeletal so what are they afraid of - the toxicity reports? Anything that might paint KC in a bad light. But, they do NOT know what is in this report. If you watch any autopsy programs (Dr. G. Medical Examiner, or Dead Man Talking, you will know the reports are usually very dry and factual. Cindy is just trying to control the media again imo.

[trich]

IMO by sealing thi svideo because it is highly inflamatory tells me
that her behavior or lack there of certainly makes her appear guilty.
So again IMO by the judge doing this he has added fuel to the fire
saying it would taint the jury pool.
Well if she did not appear guilty it would not taint the jury pool, so she must appear guilty.
Not that I had any doubt.

I have always thought that if she did indeed look sick over the body being discovered it could go both ways.....she could have been sick because she truely thought Caylee was with the Nanny or she could have been sick to realize they found her daughter whom she killed.
But doesn't look like there is any question now ....all because Baez asked to seal it and now we all believe there was plenty of proof in it that Casey did the horrilbe deed.
Does that make sense to anyone but me?

[norwood]

This is a common theory in the Darlie Routier case. That she did the deed, her hubby helped, and is still covering. But she can't say anything about his role without admitting her own.

I live not to far from where that all happened and remember it well. At the time I said the husband was involved. I always thought he did it and she was to take the fall for it because they thought she would get off. Darlie has started to talk a little in an effort to get off death row. Anyway, sorry for the off topic.

[sunstar]

Hi!

I trust the Judge made the right decision.

But with the autopsy being direct evidence to this case and the murder..factual points in an experts opinion on how she was killed...

I want that one!

Pluuuuueaze.
Oh I want to see it too, and think the Judge probably will release it because like you said, it's part of the evidence. The jail video is something that is more controversial, imo, and could be a problem in the future. MOO

[Sandy001]

So no video release. I am sure Baez is happy. :rolleyes:

When will we find out about the autopsy? Because it is the media who is asked for the autopsy report and the Anthony family (not a party in the case) who are objecting, I believe the Judge will have to hold a hearing so that both can argue their case. BTW, I don't think BOZO can say anything as Casey is not a part of the motion to supress it. It should be interesting to see Conway argue the case against the media's attys.

[Lapis]

Because it is the media who is asked for the autopsy report and the Anthony family (not a party in the case) who are objecting, I believe the Judge will have to hold a hearing so that both can argue their case. BTW, I don't think BOZO can say anything as Casey is not a part of the motion to supress it. It should be interesting to see Conway argue the case against the media's attys.

The prosecution from what I have read has requested that the hearing be held in chambers and not publicly. Also, the defense is absolutely allowed to take a position regarding any motion filed in the case. She is the one on trial. JMO

[summer]

IMO by sealing thi svideo because it is highly inflamatory tells me
that her behavior or lack there of certainly makes her appear guilty.
So again IMO by the judge doing this he has added fuel to the fire
saying it would taint the jury pool.
Well if she did not appear guilty it would not taint the jury pool, so she must appear guilty.
Not that I had any doubt.

I have always thought that if she did indeed look sick over the body being discovered it could go both ways.....she could have been sick because she truely thought Caylee was with the Nanny or she could have been sick to realize they found her daughter whom she killed.
But doesn't look like there is any question now ....all because Baez asked to seal it and now we all believe there was plenty of proof in it that Casey did the horrilbe deed.
Does that make sense to anyone but me?

Yes. I agree.

There are all kinds of ways to spin an emotional reaction. After all, everyone "grieves" in a different way. Uh huh. Obviously there is not one iota of redeeming emotionality in this video. Amazing when you think of it. Must be absolutely disgusting. I hope they find a way to bring it out at trial though.

[kitty1182]

IMO by sealing thi svideo because it is highly inflamatory tells me
that her behavior or lack there of certainly makes her appear guilty.
So again IMO by the judge doing this he has added fuel to the fire
saying it would taint the jury pool.
Well if she did not appear guilty it would not taint the jury pool, so she must appear guilty.
Not that I had any doubt.

I have always thought that if she did indeed look sick over the body being discovered it could go both ways.....she could have been sick because she truely thought Caylee was with the Nanny or she could have been sick to realize they found her daughter whom she killed.
But doesn't look like there is any question now ....all because Baez asked to seal it and now we all believe there was plenty of proof in it that Casey did the horrilbe deed.
Does that make sense to anyone but me?


Makes sense to me..

[adair]

Great catch. Just proves the A's are lying IMO


Does anyone know where that particular cell ping went to or area i guess I should say....

o/t i leave my cell on vibrate while at work, and usually leave if on vibrate because i forget to turn the ring back on, and i cannot tell you how many time that I have lost my phone, then try to find it by calling .......anyway...kc was attached to her cell, so i really would have a hard time with her loosing the phone. jmo

[TunaMelt]

I've come closer to this belief, too--that the script was actually written by Cindy. The month was to let the body decompose. George, being former LE and Cindy, a nurse, were well-equipped to do a cover-up.

I think they created a model after Madeline McCann's disappearance and looked at the money the McCanns got.

Remember how cocky Casey was in court that first time, when she smiled at G&C and mouthed "Hi"? She was completely unfazed (I would have been shaking in terror, in that position!). She really believed they were getting her out of there, scott-free. They had already rehearsed this.

Casey believed she would be in the money too, the mother of a kidnapped, missing child (someone posted yesterday that Casey is PO'd because Cindy is living the life Casey thought she'd be living--news shows, media spots, limos and trips and crab puffs--and a FUNDation. I tend to agree.).

Caylee's little body was put out in the elements to decompose and deteriorate and fall apart, exactly what happened. No body, no crime.

Casey thought she would be the media darling, not the one accused of first-degree murder. She thought she would have the public's sympathy--and money would follow.

Well, it is now for G&C.

G&C have to have some matter-of-factness about death, with their backgrounds. Very early on, they decided to make lemonade out of lemons. Caylee was dead, (yes they were sad and angry), nothing would bring her back, how do we go on living--and use this to our advantage!

And they are riding that advantage train for all its worth.

It's fascinating in a sickening way to watch how people without a conscience manage to function in a world that, by a large, still has a universal sense of morality.

I think their fall is ahead of them. I think what comes out at trial from the State will shock us all down to our toes. And I think that will be the end of Cindy and George Anthony, as well as their murderer daughter.

The fall will be faster than they could ever imagine, and the landing will absolutely crush them.

We ain't seen nothin' yet.
Neither have George and Cindy Anthony.

:mellow:

[Deannalynn]

I use to wonder if the night of the 15th, she and Cindy had a BAD fight.
I think GA was still at work..
During the fight, Caylee got caught in the middle and got hurt..

I find this interesting. I wonder IF this occurred and Caylee was hurt but a month later Cindy didn't think of what took place a month before between she and Casey. OR...maybe Casey told Cindy she was Hyperventilating in the car and she stopped breathing and it was Cindy's fault because of the fight they had. She panicked when the baby stopped breathing and didn't know what to do.
This mother is such a pathological liar, who knows what story she made up to brother Lee. You know he knows everything. Well, everything sissy told him to be true.:glare:
jmo

[5boxersmom]

Because it is the media who is asked for the autopsy report and the Anthony family (not a party in the case) who are objecting, I believe the Judge will have to hold a hearing so that both can argue their case. BTW, I don't think BOZO can say anything as Casey is not a part of the motion to supress it. It should be interesting to see Conway argue the case against the media's attys.

Wonder how long it will take for the hearing? Yes it will be interesting to see BC in court, since we haven't before.

I have a question. If the video shows improper conduct between JB and Casey can it be used against JB to get him disbarred?

jmo

[comemonday]

It's fascinating in a sickening way to watch how people without a conscience manage to function in a world that, by a large, still has a universal sense of morality.

I think their fall is ahead of them. I think what comes out at trial from the State will shock us all down to our toes. And I think that will be the end of Cindy and George Anthony, as well as their murderer daughter.

The fall will be faster than they could ever imagine, and the landing will absolutely crush them.

We ain't seen nothin' yet.
Neither have George and Cindy Anthony.

:mellow:

I totally agree!!

[Imperfect4]

Yes. I agree.

There are all kinds of ways to spin an emotional reaction. After all, everyone "grieves" in a different way. Uh huh. Obviously there is not one iota of redeeming emotionality in this video. Amazing when you think of it. Must be absolutely disgusting. I hope they find a way to bring it out at trial though.

I'm left wondering if Jose's behavior in the video is also a problem. Judge S wouldn't mention that in his ruling, especially with the Bar complaints under investigation.

[Dick Tracy]

I fully believe Tony Lazarro will have it covered as well. I believe based upon the phone records we know to be true that Tony Lazarro will be able to testify in great detail as to the extent of the rift the evening of the 15th between Cindy and Casey. Remember Casey's phone communication with Tony began at 7:05 pm on the 15th (I believe shortly after the blow up with Cindy) and lasted non-stop with either text or conversation til 3:22 am on June 16th. That is 8 hours and 22 minutes of non-stop communication. Many believe Caylee was murdered during this time-frame.

IMO Tony is going to be the star witness for the prosecution. We have never heard him in any prior interview be asked by LE about this time period. We have not seen any documents related to this topic. Don't believe for one second that LE forgot to cover it. They are sitting on it. Why haven't we seen Tony Lazarro in any public interview? Because he is intelligent enough not to put his credibility on display prior to the trial. Give this young man credit, he has done what others have chosen not to do, and that is stay quiet and assist LE in any and every way possible.

I can't wait for the trial and for Tony to testify in front of OC. His testimony will be insightful, it will be powerful, it will be incriminating and it will help send the OC to death row where she rightfully belongs. IMO

Sup Eastside?

I'm not sure I'm aligning on your timeline on the night of the 15th. I believe that the fight occured between 9:30 and 10pm. I'm not sure that Tony's knows much about it either, or than it was DRAMA at the Anthony house.

At the conclusion, Casey picks up Caylee in front of Schmindy, and departs, probably in a rage. Where to? Don't know? But I'll bet LE knows. We know she didn't go to TL's.

[gaelicpeas]

Here is the judge's order about the video:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47547600.pdf

[kitty1182]

Sup Eastside?

I'm not sure I'm aligning on your timeline on the night of the 15th. I believe that the fight occured between 9:30 and 10pm. I'm not sure that Tony's knows much about it either, or than it was DRAMA at the Anthony house.

At the conclusion, Casey picks up Caylee in front of Schmindy, and departs, probably in a rage. Where to? Don't know? But I'll bet LE knows. We know she didn't go to TL's.

I think she went to Lee's.

[Scampi]

Don't know...I've been wondering that myself...

Sis, Lapis told us earlier in this thread that anything casey anthony said to another person, is an exception to the hearsay rule.

The information has to be relevant tho and the Judge decides that, imo.

[sunstar]

I find this interesting. I wonder IF this occurred and Caylee was hurt but a month later Cindy didn't think of what took place a month before between she and Casey. OR...maybe Casey told Cindy she was Hyperventilating in the car and she stopped breathing and it was Cindy's fault because of the fight they had. She panicked when the baby stopped breathing and didn't know what to do.
This mother is such a pathological liar, who knows what story she made up to brother Lee. You know he knows everything. Well, everything sissy told him to be true.:glare:
jmo
I still believe it was a lot more deliberate and then there's the matter of the duct tape around her head and the way she disposed of Caylee's body. No accident!! MOO

[margaritaville]

I saw your post Cri, we can add in all of them stating the wrong date they last saw Caylee. I will never believe that wasn't done deliberately.


I think that was to cover the blow up fight from the night of the 15th...
MOO

[adair]

Like, they can stop speculation..:laugh:

Its incriminating to try to seal the facts.

I guess they don't like the ME's summary on how Caylee was murdered.

You bet its going to make their innocent daughter look guilty.

It reminds me of them not going to visit Casey because NG and FLB's will analyze what they say, but then they go on LKL and other shows, and make bigger liars out of themselves, and we talk about it.

Very strange family.



Very Strange family indeed.

I think that by bc filing motions for the report not to be released draws more attention to it then if it were released. Really look at how much more speculation it has caused.

jmo

[kitty1182]

Sis, Lapis told us earlier in this thread that anything casey anthony said to another person, is an exception to the hearsay rule.

The information has to be relevant tho and the Judge decides that, imo.

Thanks Sis...:wub:

[court~critic1®]

G&C are NOT partiies in this case (yet). Think of all the women who have been viciously raped and then murdered. The desires of their families do not file to seal the autopsy REPORT. Remember, the Judge has already sealed the PICTURES> No one will force the Anthonys to read this report - and we know they will be at the trial and will hear it then.

I seriously doubt there is anything to hide in the autopsy report anyay. The ME has already stated her opinion. The Anthonys KNOW the body was mostly skeletal so what are they afraid of - the toxicity reports? Anything that might paint KC in a bad light. But, they do NOT know what is in this report. If you watch any autopsy programs (Dr. G. Medical Examiner, or Dead Man Talking, you will know the reports are usually very dry and factual. Cindy is just trying to control the media again imo.



copy...and concur.

yes autopsy reports are very boring unless you know what is being said. that is why I can't undrstand why this judge is pandering to the ants, and jb.

[Dick Tracy]

So the judge sealed the video. Highly Inflammatory, if seen by the jury pool. That does not bode well for the PRP. What especially doesn't bode well for the PRP is the fact that the State is NOT going to challenge the judges ruling.

Does that mean that it will be unsealed during the trial? Anyone? More than likely ? Or more than likely not?

[summer]

I'm left wondering if Jose's behavior in the video is also a problem. Judge S wouldn't mention that in his ruling, especially with the Bar complaints under investigation.

I hope the video goes toward Jose being disbarred. I have a belief that just because it's off the table at the moment (for public consumption) it's still in play regarding Baez. Strickland has already filed a complaint against him and I pray it bites him hard. These people make me sick!

[IM4Truth]

It's fascinating in a sickening way to watch how people without a conscience manage to function in a world that, by a large, still has a universal sense of morality.

I think their fall is ahead of them. I think what comes out at trial from the State will shock us all down to our toes. And I think that will be the end of Cindy and George Anthony, as well as their murderer daughter.

The fall will be faster than they could ever imagine, and the landing will absolutely crush them.

We ain't seen nothin' yet.
Neither have George and Cindy Anthony.

:mellow:

I totally agree with all of this. They will fall and they will fall HARD.

[imc_e]

Very Strange family indeed.

I think that by bc filing motions for the report not to be released draws more attention to it then if it were released. Really look at how much more speculation it has caused.

jmo

Very true in a backwards sort of way, like this whole case!

Backfire! :smile:

[boo]

One year ago today.....June 17, 2008

Brian Burner saw Casey back her car into the garage. Page 5 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/bb092308.pdf

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643389/Stutz-Chris---Statement
Chris Stutz said Casey stopped by June 17, 18 or 19 around 5:00 p.m. She was driving a dark colored Jeep Cherokee with NY license plates. She was happy, but a little “distressed about her parents”. Casey said they were getting a divorce because George was cheating on Cindy. She told Chris about a Casey was thinking about buying a $250,000 house in a subdivision by the dump on Curry Ford. Casey stayed for 1 ½ - 2 hours.

Zenaida Gonzalez visited Sawgrass Apartments. Pages 57 – 61 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

Page 7 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18974626/detail.html
On June 17, 2008, the cellular activity for Casey Anthony’s cellular phone indicated movement to the south at approximately 1481 hours from the area of Semoran Blvd. and Aloma Ave. The cellular activitiy remained in the area of her parent’s residence located at 4937 Hopespring Drive, Orlando, Florida until approximately 1445 hours and briefly entered an area near Lee Vista Blvd. and T.P.C. Drive to the west. The cellular activity then moved west and remained in the area bordered by Alafaya Trail, Research Parkway and E. Colonial Drive until 1720 hours. The cellular activity then moved west and remained in the area near Anthony Lazzaro’s apartment located at **** Sutton Place, Orlando, FL until 0031 hours on June 18, 2008.

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: What is your address? I'm going to the post office to do a change of address in a little bit.

Casey to Amy 06/17 11:28 a.m.: 4937 Hopespring Drive Orlando FL 32829.

Amy to Casey: Thanks!

Casey to Amy 06/17 11:30 a.m.: Anytime love!

Casey’s Cell phone pings http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p6Pnw95vqOo-MgZ7Vsp9pYg&gid=2


You are amazing, Des. Thank you so much for doing this daily (hint hint!)

OCSD should put you on their payroll STAT. You would be so good at this and I hope they're reading every one of your posts. :smile:

[Deannalynn]

I still believe it was a lot more deliberate and then there's the matter of the duct tape around her head and the way she disposed of Caylee's body. No accident!! MOO

Oh I absolutely agree it was no accident sunstar...I would be interested in knowing how she explained the duct tape and sticker if she did come up with some "accidental death."
These people (all of them Anthony's) know a little sum of this and a little sumpin that. This is the only reason they are acting this way and their behavior is off the chart.
The prosecutors don't seem to be concerned with Cindy or George.:confused:
jmo

[happy2bme]

I think she went to Lee's.


Me too, Kitty.

[sunstar]

Here is the judge's order about the video:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47547600.pdf

thanks so much! I agree with the judge's reasons. MOO

[Lapis]

So the judge sealed the video. Highly Inflammatory, if seen by the jury pool. That does not bode well for the PRP. What especially doesn't bode well for the PRP is the fact that the State is NOT going to challenge the judges ruling.

Does that mean that it will be unsealed during the trial? Anyone? More than likely ? Or more than likely not?

If you read the order the judge said it might be inflammatory. The court did not address whether it would be admitted at trial as the issue was not before him. However, part of his analysis was that it is possible that the tape would not be admitted. JMO

[imc_e]

Me too, Kitty.


Me three. :laugh:

[ish]

Sup Eastside?

I'm not sure I'm aligning on your timeline on the night of the 15th. I believe that the fight occured between 9:30 and 10pm. I'm not sure that Tony's knows much about it either, or than it was DRAMA at the Anthony house.

At the conclusion, Casey picks up Caylee in front of Schmindy, and departs, probably in a rage. Where to? Don't know? But I'll bet LE knows. We know she didn't go to TL's.

TonE tells LE that Casey had told him about a huge argument/issue between Cindy and Casey, that was the turning over of the house to Casey. He says Casey was fhrustrated cause Cindy was flip flopping on the deal, she complained about it a lot, one of the reasons she wanted to stay at his place. To get away from the Cindy/cheating George drama while waiting for CIndy to make up her mind about giving Casey the house. Typical Casey, tell the truth that there is friction/fighting but lie about the reason. TonE is also very clear that Casey always took CIndy's calls outside of his hearing. Had a special ringer for MOM's calls.

edited to add:

I wonder if during George and Cindy's separation, Cindy didn't confide in Casey and perhaps there was some talk however superficial on Cindy's part about the possiblity of Casey taking the house over. Knowing Casey over active imagination, could she have run with that idea and created this fantasy in her head.

[Chardonnay]

There is something VERY INFLAMMATORY in that video adn that is why the Judge sealed it. The prosecution didn't object so I don't think it's something that Casey did. It will probably come out at trial tho.
I think keeping the autopsy report out of the Discovery will be more difficult as it IS a public record and paid for by the citizens of Florida.

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but does anyone think it's what Peter said a few weeks ago, where JB's hands were all over KC and they shouldn't have been? Prolly not, huh? However, if she acted like a grieving mother, why seal the tape? :confused:

[sunstar]

Oh I absolutely agree it was no accident sunstar...I would be interested in knowing how she explained the duct tape and sticker if she did come up with some "accidental death."
These people (all of them Anthony's) know a little sum of this and a little sumpin that. This is the only reason they are acting this way and their behavior is off the chart.
The prosecutors don't seem to be concerned with Cindy or George.:confused:
jmo
I think it's possible she gave her brother enough clues that he figured out where Caylee's remains were without her actually telling him she'd killed Caylee or going into any details. I don't believe any of them were too concerned about how Caylee died, just covering up for Casey and trying to make sure she wasn't found. Thankfully Mr. Kronk was able to find her anyway! MOO

[kitty1182]

I think it's possible she gave her brother enough clues that he figured out where Caylee's remains were without her actually telling him she'd killed Caylee or going into any details. I don't believe any of them were too concerned about how she died, just covering up for Casey and trying to make sure she wasn't found. Thankfully Mr. Kronk was able to find her anyway! MOO

Thank God for Mr.Kronk..

[imc_e]

TonE tells LE that Casey had told him about a huge argument/issue between Cindy and Casey, that was the turning over of the house to Casey. He says Casey was fhrustrated cause Cindy was flip flopping on the deal, she complained about it a lot, one of the reasons she wanted to stay at his place. To get away from the Cindy/cheating George drama while waiting for CIndy to make up her mind about giving Casey the house. Typical Casey, tell the truth that there is friction/fighting but lie about the reason. TonE is also very clear that Casey always took CIndy's calls outside of his hearing. Had a special ringer for MOM's calls.

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

oops url error

[summer]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but does anyone think it's what Peter said a few weeks ago, where JB's hands were all over KC and they shouldn't have been? Prolly not, huh? However, if she acted like a grieving mother, why seal the tape? :confused:

Yes. :angry:

[summer]

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/3115146-*****-alert-ringtone

Ha ha. I think I read it was gangsta rap.

[sunstar]

Thank God for Mr.Kronk..

Absolutely! :smile:



bbl ~ have work to do.

[kitty1182]

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/3115146-*****-alert-ringtone


I can't get the link to load..
Does it sound like somebody chewing gum?:biggrin:

[ish]

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/3115146-*****-alert-ringtone

I was thinking Gnarls Barkley "Crazy"

[AMS]

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

oops url error

What about Elton John - The B*tch is Back? :wink:

imo

[FallenAngel♥]

Here is the judge's order about the video:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47547600.pdf

wow that order does speak volumes. obviously she did not act like a grieving mother.

[Grins]

It is a fair question as to whether an appellate court will find that some of the multiple thousands of pages of material and reports and photographs and test results and hearsay statements and private emails and statements of deceased witnesses and opinions of relatives as to guilt of defendant previously released by law enforcement and State Attorney's Office might,

"...[present] a serious and imminent threat to the administration of justice."

and might, like the video, be such that..

Anthony's right to a fair trial could not be protected if the video was released, Strickland said.

Strickland noted that, given the widespread media attention given to the tape, the contents of it would be known throughout the state, potentially tainting the jury pool even if the trial is moved to another city. The defense has filed for a change of venue, but the matter has not been heard in court.

In his final contention, Strickland pointed out that it is possible that the video may never be shown to a jury, "therefore, the delay in releasing this video protects the rights of the accused, without being broader than necessary to accomplish this purpose."

==doesn't all that apply to the eleven months of SA releases above as well?

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19779268/detail.html?treets=orlpn&tml=orlpn_break&ts=T&tmi=orlpn_break_1_01170106172009

[Deannalynn]

I think it's possible she gave her brother enough clues that he figured out where Caylee's remains were without her actually telling him she'd killed Caylee or going into any details. I don't believe any of them were too concerned about how Caylee died, just covering up for Casey and trying to make sure she wasn't found. Thankfully Mr. Kronk was able to find her anyway! MOO

This is what will put Casey away for the rest of her natural life. Either LWOP or forced death. Her "clues."

Does she really think she can get thru this trial with the likes of Baez as front and center defense attorney?
I wonder what AL has been up to. Haven't heard. I wonder if she was able to visit Casey and what the exchange was. I believe Baez has warned Casey about AL and tells her she is only there to get the death penalty lifted. Baez is not going to like it one bit if he's not in the spot light 100% of the time on behalf of Murder momma...
They must not have much to say when Baez and Casey are together, visiting or having a meeting. Baez is there to see Casey almost everyday.
Has it been mentioned that AL has been in to see Casey at all?

I too agree with The good Judges decision regarding the tape. (For now)
jmo

[margaritaville]

My bold...

so I wonder what the ring tone was for her Mam.

This one?

oops url error



LOL-- Oh that is way to funny.........

[Stella Rose]

No new outfit for me. I was a lurker from August 2008, becoming engrossed in this sad story.. I joined in Sept where I started posting. I don't post much, but I do follow the board daily. I truly appreciate the insight all of you give. Unfortuately this is a facinating case with very sad and tragic consequences that I am compelled to follow. I just posted today for say some feelings I had and I appreciate the responses. I don't tend to get many.

(((Hugs))) I am a long time lurker too! Back during the Peterson cases I was on the old CTV board, but didn't register here until this case. Very sad indeed.

[AnniePie]

I hope and pray all their lies pave a path to a cell for each of them. If they get away with this behavior it will enable others to behave in the same manner.

Exactly!

And I want them to find out that they are no different than anyone else. They are not the entitled people that they believe they are. :mad:

[bballgrl]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but does anyone think it's what Peter said a few weeks ago, where JB's hands were all over KC and they shouldn't have been? Prolly not, huh? However, if she acted like a grieving mother, why seal the tape? :confused:

No, I don't believe that JB was around when this video was taped. It was before he got to jail (am I correct??)

[kitty1182]

No, I don't believe that JB was around when this video was taped. It was before he got to jail (am I correct??)


I think so, before he got there..

[boo]

Probably they only had one bear which they made up from one of Caylee's old bears to make people think they had a lot of them. Maybe they didn't get any money so decided to think up another scam. JMO What's next? Casey bears wrapped in an American flag for the 4th of July?

I am only on page 2 here and need to catch up but I do have an email from Cindy that pertains to this post. She sent me a cost breakdown of the bears and something else I can't remember at this moment. I will post it in a little bit. I need to access it from my home computer so I will do this at lunch.

Thanks for reminding me. I completely forgot about those dang bears.:wub:

[Thisbe II]

Oh I absolutely agree it was no accident sunstar...I would be interested in knowing how she explained the duct tape and sticker if she did come up with some "accidental death."
These people (all of them Anthony's) know a little sum of this and a little sumpin that. This is the only reason they are acting this way and their behavior is off the chart.
The prosecutors don't seem to be concerned with Cindy or George.:confused

jmo

OK...I will jump out of lurk-dom on this! :seeya:

She overdosed the child on chloroform. She initially thought she would just give her something to knock her out so that she could go partying. ... The child dies and the muscles on her mouth go slack (I know this from hospice work) and she is grossed out by this so she wraps the head with available duct tape to make her "look better" then adds the kissie heart to decorate or in her sick way to fix her. Then wraps her in the blanket, double bags her and carries her around in the back of her care because she cant figure out what to do with her. This girl has never "planned" anything in her life. She just reacts.

Gin-JMO

[Grins]

The issue is not the video it is whether the judge applied the same tests to all the inadmissible material released by State Attorney for the last eleven months.
Just released are statements by a deceased witness which can never be admitted at trial.

Opinions of an uncle and grandma of the guilt of defendant are highly inflammatory and never can be admitted at trial.

Why were they not sealed as they will taint a jury pool far more than defendant's reactions.

Where is the consistency in the application of the law just quoted by the court?

[margaritaville]

Does anyone recall when Casey told Amy that she was getting her parents house?
I still think this house was the start to Casey's whole plan.

If back in March Casey was looking up missing children sites...
learning how to set up memorial funds ect.

She orchestrated this whole thing knowing money would be rolling in..
( I know I brought this up yesterday)
But I really believe that Caylee was killed for the money Casey would make off her disappearance and knowing that CA and GA were so far in debt ( that Casey created).....It was a "win/win" for her.... she would receive a house...no more ball and chain (Caylee):mad: and all the money she could possibly need with out working a day......

moo

[kitty1182]

OK...I will jump out of lurk-dom on this! :seeya:

She overdosed the child on chloroform. She initially thought she would just give her something to knock her out so that she could go partying. ... The child dies and the muscles on her mouth go slack (I know this from hospice work) and she is grossed out by this so she wraps the head with available duct tape to make her "look better" then adds the kissie heart to decorate or in her sick way to fix her. Then wraps her in the blanket, double bags her and carries her around in the back of her care because she cant figure out what to do with her. This girl has never "planned" anything in her life. She just reacts.

Gin-JMO



Hello..:smile:
Didn't know that about the mouth..Thanks!!

[summer]

Hmmm... I read on yesterday's board that Diane Fanning came on to say the Anthony's weren't getting paid for photos in the book. And then some astute poster (sorry, I can't remember the name) asked several times if any portion of the proceeds were slated for the Caylee Foundation. Didn't see any reply.

I think this was a great question. Wonder what the answer is -- or maybe Diane did respond and I just didn't see it.

Anyone remember? Thank you!

[happy2bme]

I was looking at the charges against Casey on the Inmate search.

She has a charge of uttering a forged check and one for forgery of a check. What the difference?

I also noticed she has a charge of grand theft 3rd degree. I didn't know she had that one. I remember Cindy saying that on the 911 call. So did Cindy actually press charges? What did I miss?

[gaelicpeas]

The issue is not the video it is whether the judge applied the same tests to all the inadmissible material released by State Attorney for the last eleven months.
Just released are statements by a deceased witness which can never be admitted at trial.

Opinions of an uncle and grandma of the guilt of defendant are highly inflammatory and never can be admitted at trial.

Why were they not sealed as they will taint a jury pool far more than defendant's reactions.I will venture a guess.... is it because Baez filed a motion objecting to the video's release, but didn't object to any of the other discovery documents that were released?

[AMS]

Hmmm... I read on yesterday's board that Diane Fanning came on to say the Anthony's weren't getting paid for photos in the book. And then some astute poster (sorry, I can't remember the name) asked several times if any portion of the proceeds were slated for the Caylee Foundation. Didn't see any reply.

I think this was a great question. Wonder what the answer is -- or maybe Diane did respond and I just didn't see it.

Anyone remember? Thank you!

I did not see a response to that question but I was not on the board long last night.

imo

[summer]

I was looking at the charges against Casey on the Inmate search.

She has a charge of uttering a forged check and one for forgery of a check. What the difference?

I also noticed she has a charge of grand theft 3rd degree. I didn't know she had that one. I remember Cindy saying that on the 911 call. So did Cindy actually press charges? What did I miss?

I *think* anything over a certain amount is considered grand theft. It's not a large amount, like $300 or something. (I'm just guessing here but it's a surprisingly low figure) So I think the grand theft has to do with the money she stole from Amy. Not sure how that differentiates from the forged checks........

[Thisbe II]

Hello..:smile:
Didn't know that about the mouth..Thanks!!

One of those bits of information that you dont know unless you are around bodies.....

Yes you lose control of the muscles in your jaw. In hospice, if the family wants to view the body prior to the funeral home picking it up you can roll up a towel and place it between the jaw and chest to close the mouth.

Gin:ohmy:

[ish]

The issue is not the video it is whether the judge applied the same tests to all the inadmissible material released by State Attorney for the last eleven months.
Just released are statements by a deceased witness which can never be admitted at trial.

Opinions of an uncle and grandma of the guilt of defendant are highly inflammatory and never can be admitted at trial.

Why were they not sealed as they will taint a jury pool far more than defendant's reactions.

Where is the consistency in the application of the law just quoted by the court?

I think someone on the defense team would have to object to the release of those documents and reference those arguments. I don't think Judge acts on his own, if so he'd spend all day viewing documents and videos.

which witness is deceased?

[happy2bme]

I was looking at the charges against Casey on the Inmate search.

She has a charge of uttering a forged check and one for forgery of a check. What the difference?

I also noticed she has a charge of grand theft 3rd degree. I didn't know she had that one. I remember Cindy saying that on the 911 call. So did Cindy actually press charges? What did I miss?

Never mind. I was thinking it said Grand theft auto:blushing:. This must have been for the cash she stole from Amy.

[summer]

I did not see a response to that question but I was not on the board long last night.

imo

Thanks AMS. I'm too lazy to go back and look.

I really don't want to be cynical here because it's easy to skip over a posting so I'll assume Diane just didn't see the question (although it was asked twice). OK, we'll see. The truth will be ferreted out anyway. All the fat lazy bloggers out there are pretty tuned into asking the right questions.

[margaritaville]

I was looking at the charges against Casey on the Inmate search.

She has a charge of uttering a forged check and one for forgery of a check. What the difference?

I also noticed she has a charge of grand theft 3rd degree. I didn't know she had that one. I remember Cindy saying that on the 911 call. So did Cindy actually press charges? What did I miss?


i am sure those are all the checks that she wrote of Amys.....

I found this:

Most of the responses here are not correct. They are mistakenly assuming that Grand Theft is $1000 due to the fact that the word "Grand" commonly refers to one thousand. However, the word "grand" in the charge "grand theft" is using the word under the original definition of the word simply meaning "large", as in Grand Canyon.
The amount varies from state to state. In California, for example, it can be as little as $125. Typical limits range from $200 - $600.
Note that the Wikipedia entry for this one is not correct. It incorrectly lists the punishment as being 16 months, but in reality it varies from state to state. In some states the maximum is 3 years.

[imc_e]

Hmmm... I read on yesterday's board that Diane Fanning came on to say the Anthony's weren't getting paid for photos in the book. And then some astute poster (sorry, I can't remember the name) asked several times if any portion of the proceeds were slated for the Caylee Foundation. Didn't see any reply.

I think this was a great question. Wonder what the answer is -- or maybe Diane did respond and I just didn't see it.

Anyone remember? Thank you!

Yes it was me and I asked twice and got NO reply.

She said she would not pay for use of photos, BUT she didn't answer my question about proceeds going to the Caylee Marie Anthony Retirement Foundation.

[happy2bme]

I *think* anything over a certain amount is considered grand theft. It's not a large amount, like $300 or something. (I'm just guessing here but it's a surprisingly low figure) So I think the grand theft has to do with the money she stole from Amy. Not sure how that differentiates from the forged checks........

Thanks. I figured it out after I posted. I guess I was trying to add grand theft auto to her long list of charges.:biggrin:

[Diney]

Well, let's try to think about this another way. Perhaps the fact the dream team hasn't objected to the release of the autopsy report tells us something about the direction Ms. Lyon is headed?

Perhaps the sands are shifting from denying the OC's involvement, to explaining why she did what she did?

Everytime I read the following paragraphs in the ABC article from yesterday - I see red. Who are the Anthony's to take control of Florida's Sunshine Laws as it pertains to Casey's case? I will try to put the link to the article, but I really don't know how to do it. :sad:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7844545&page=1



"The goal at this point is to take control over the information that goes out and to have people stop and wait and think about the fact that we all have the right to a fair trial," Conway said. "The utlimate prejudice is it is commented on endlessly by shows that try to present themselves as news shows and so the public gets a skewed version of what's really going on... My point is people crawl out of the woodwork to make comments on this and nobody knows whether it's true or not."

In the meantime, Conway and Baez are expected to make several more motions concerning the release of evidence, both to give a new addition to the defense team, death penalty specialist Andrea Lyon, time to prepare for the trial and to spare the "fragile" Anthony's from repeated media reports about their dead granddaughter.

[Grins]

I will venture a guess.... is it because Baez filed a motion objecting to the video's release, but didn't object to any of the other discovery documents that were released?He filed motions early on regarding releases to media and the judge denied them saying he would err on the side of the First Amendment.

Still, more motions should have been filed at every doc dump.

I would hate to see a conviction reversed. Do you agree?

[boo]

ITA. This case is high profile like almost no other. I suspect there's already been a "copycat" murder of a child by her mother on the west coast. The last thing our society needs, imo, is to have the Anthonys remain untouchable with regard to their horrific behavior the past year. We certainly don't need any "copycat" parents or grandparents using the A's as their role models.

It's a terrible precedent to set, imo.

I so agree with this. In fact, I dare say there have probably been more than one "copycat" murder because of this case.

I am a stone's throw (as is prospros) from the spot Emma Barker's body was dumped (ouch). I hope her mother gets what is coming to her as well.

[Thisbe II]

Could not the prosecution be saving the meatier and more compelling interviews for much later....closer to the trial. Isnt the document sharing part of the discovery process?

Gin

[imc_e]

Thanks AMS. I'm too lazy to go back and look.

I really don't want to be cynical here because it's easy to skip over a posting so I'll assume Diane just didn't see the question (although it was asked twice). OK, we'll see. The truth will be ferreted out anyway. All the fat lazy bloggers out there are pretty tuned into asking the right questions.

I did a search for ALL posts by DF and there was no reply to the question.

Kind of speaks for itself, to me.

[summer]

I think someone on the defense team would have to object to the release of those documents and reference those arguments. I don't think Judge acts on his own, if so he'd spend all day viewing documents and videos.

which witness is deceased?

Ish, The Daily B.S. guy.

[ish]

Hmmm... I read on yesterday's board that Diane Fanning came on to say the Anthony's weren't getting paid for photos in the book. And then some astute poster (sorry, I can't remember the name) asked several times if any portion of the proceeds were slated for the Caylee Foundation. Didn't see any reply.

I think this was a great question. Wonder what the answer is -- or maybe Diane did respond and I just didn't see it.

Anyone remember? Thank you!

very good question, $ come in to the foundation $ go out to George and Cindy as salary. I hope their books have to be open as a not for profit organization.

[ish]

Ish, The Daily B.S. guy.

Thanks!!! Forgot about him.

[imc_e]

I hope this is true

http://caseyanthonycase.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/caylee-anthony%e2%80%99s-autopsy-report-to-be-released-friday/


:ohmy:


:thumbsup:

[ttcRider]

Hey FLABs! Has anyone heard from Peter the poster?? He had that scoop a few weeks back but I don't recall seeing him post ever again.. :confused: He had mentioned that the video showed JB with his hands on Casey's 'lower' backside. :wink:

[summer]

I did a search for ALL posts by DF and there was no reply to the question.

Kind of speaks for itself, to me.

So that was your question! Thanks for asking it. Yeah, we're pretty done with the word parsing, aren't we.

It took a while for people to figure out that no payment by a network to the A's excluded those little pesky "licensing fees". Except they're not so little.

We won't get fooled again!

[gaelicpeas]

He filed motions early on regarding releases to media and the judge denied them saying he would err on the side of the First Amendment.

Still, more motions should have been filed at every doc dump.

I would hate to see a conviction reversed. Do you agree?I agree that I would hate to see a conviction reversed.

IIRC, the earlier motions Baez filed had to do with the jailhouse visits and calls, but it's been a while, so I could be wrong on that.

[imc_e]

Diane Fanning- ttw

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/member.php?u=143970

All posts:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/search.php?searchid=763135

[Grins]

Could not the prosecution be saving the meatier and more compelling interviews for much later....closer to the trial. Isnt the document sharing part of the discovery process?

GinState has a continuing duty to release to defendant within 15 days of receipt all witness statements and other evidence.

[trich]

If you read the order the judge said it might be inflammatory. The court did not address whether it would be admitted at trial as the issue was not before him. However, part of his analysis was that it is possible that the tape would not be admitted. JMO

As I stated before ....IMO no one needs to see the tape now since the judge already said it would taint the jury pool.
Must be very telling that she is guilty.
I think it was the supidest move Baez has made....
wonder if he will demand the judge recluse himself for giving the reasons he sealed the video. LOL

[boo]

I've said this before and feel the need to say it again................


At night in the House of Anthony when they watch the news (and we know they watch all of it), what do they say to each other when cases like Christopher Coleman are discussed? Do they think that man should get off because of course he didn't kill his wife and kids cuz he SAYS he didn't. Do they think he should come home from jail? Do they think others should be blamed for the murders to get him off?

Okay, I'm done. I feel better now. My own opinion of course. Thanks for listening. Be well.


My bet would be that they probably feel he should fry for killing his wife and children. Only they are entitled to this "above the law" treatment and they will certainly not share the spotlight with a "real" killer. IMO

[imc_e]

So that was your question! Thanks for asking it. Yeah, we're pretty done with the word parsing, aren't we.

It took a while for people to figure out that no payment by a network to the A's excluded those little pesky "licensing fees". Except they're not so little.

We won't get fooled again!

Right. We can't forget that the Great OZ is always behind the curtain!

She didn't pay for photos but she didnt respond to whether some of the proceeds from the book were going to the A Foundation.
ie: Cindys pocket.

I can't buy the book knowing that, AND I have read her other books.

Not THIS one.

jmo

[Elle]

I hope this is true

http://caseyanthonycase.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/caylee-anthony%e2%80%99s-autopsy-report-to-be-released-friday/

Hello, if I am reading it correctly, the post date is June 11th. I do not think it is in reference to this coming friday, but rather last friday, and was written before Conway filed and the Judge granted a temporary hold (or whatever it's called). I am hoping I am wrong though.

[Grins]

I agree that I would hate to see a conviction reversed.

IIRC, the earlier motions Baez filed had to do with the jailhouse visits and calls, but it's been a while, so I could be wrong on that.That July motion also included prejudicial material which would interfere with the right to a fair trial guaranteed to defendant.

I posted it many times.

[Lapis]

As I stated before ....IMO no one needs to see the tape now since the judge already said it would taint the jury pool.
Must be very telling that she is guilty.
I think it was the supidest move Baez has made....
wonder if he will demand the judge recluse himself for giving the reasons he sealed the video. LOL

Please read the order. The judge is very careful in his choice of words. He said it might taint the jury pool. When reading the orders of the court you cannot just choose the words you like. He has crafted the order using words like might and may. These words are very important to the order. No where does the judge say he believes it will do anything. JMO

[Rapunzel]

Well shoot! I wanted to see it.:sneaky:


It's OK...we all know what is in it...I am real good at visualization...:biggrin::biggrin:

[kitty1182]

I'll go back to lurking :rolleyes:

Don't do that, stay here with us..Please..:smile:

[imc_e]

Hey FLABs! Has anyone heard from Peter the poster?? He had that scoop a few weeks back but I don't recall seeing him post ever again.. :confused: He had mentioned that the video showed JB with his hands on Casey's 'lower' backside. :wink:


Where did he go?!
Maybe the monkeys stole him.

I think if that video had been released, we would have seen lawsuits against the jail for her flag rights etc, heck we may see that anyhow.

They sure did fight vigourously to seal it from the public.

I was thinking the vid was more about JB's behavior than it was the defendants..that could be used for an investigation. Dunno.

I just hope that the Judge does not let the Anthonys control the evidence that we are legally entitled to.

[Imperfect4]

Here is the judge's order about the video:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47547600.pdf

Geez, Louise. What the heck is IN that thing? :scared:

[Elle]

I'll go back to lurking :rolleyes:


No way, stay and post. You are not the first, you will not be the last, no need to feel badly!

[Grins]

Keep posting Jennie; all are welcome here and all opinions and views.

I get hammered but come back for my say.

You have done no wrong.

[comemonday]

As I stated before ....IMO no one needs to see the tape now since the judge already said it would taint the jury pool.
Must be very telling that she is guilty.
I think it was the supidest move Baez has made....
wonder if he will demand the judge recluse himself for giving the reasons he sealed the video. LOL

I agree.. very telling story on that tape. If innocent, what's the need to hide? Baez is a clown... the publicity of this case has really put him the the "most desirable" attorney category.... NOT

[imc_e]

I'll go back to lurking :rolleyes:


Stay put!

You still could be right.

:smile:

[kitty1182]

No way, stay and post. You are not the first, you will not be the last, no need to feel badly!

I agree..I hope she stays..

[Thisbe II]

I'll go back to lurking :rolleyes:

:beer: NO Jennie-stick around. I need the company of someone who posts about as much as I have.

Gin :wink:

[imc_e]

I agree.. very telling story on that tape. If innocent, what's the need to hide? Baez is a clown... the publicity of this case has really put him the the "most desirable" attorney category.... NOT


His snarky smile drives me nuts.

Short trip but still a trip. :wink:

[Grins]

This is the importance of the video:
how was it made and why and by whom.

The video contents are well known and help the defendant I think.

[ttcRider]

I'll go back to lurking :rolleyes:

Stay and post with us! :thumbup:
At least your link had something to do with the case, last time I tried posting a link it ended up being a movie trailer for GI JOE!!! ;)

[imc_e]

:beer: NO Jennie-stick around. I need the company of someone who posts about as much as I have.

Gin :wink:

Hey Gin, that reminds me of a drink and thats not good its only 12:45 here..and I don't drink.

Well maybe just a bit. :drool:

[happy2bme]

Not sure if this has been posted but it is sure worth being posted again.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121265


This woman has had enough!

[Imperfect4]

The issue is not the video it is whether the judge applied the same tests to all the inadmissible material released by State Attorney for the last eleven months.
Just released are statements by a deceased witness which can never be admitted at trial.

Opinions of an uncle and grandma of the guilt of defendant are highly inflammatory and never can be admitted at trial.

Why were they not sealed as they will taint a jury pool far more than defendant's reactions.

Where is the consistency in the application of the law just quoted by the court?

I think the video is the only thing the defense has requested be sealed.

[Imperfect4]

So the judge sealed the video because potential jurors would decide Casey is guilty based on what is in the video? Must be some video. :ohmy:

For reals! :scared:

[Elle]

This is the importance of the video:
how was it made and why and by whom.

The video contents are well known and help the defendant I think.

But the wording by the judge left me with the feeling that it is not helpful to the defendant. Maybe I am reading too much into it?

[boo]

Hey FLABs! Has anyone heard from Peter the poster?? He had that scoop a few weeks back but I don't recall seeing him post ever again.. :confused: He had mentioned that the video showed JB with his hands on Casey's 'lower' backside. :wink:

I've been wondering about Coyote, too. Anybody seen her around?

[comemonday]

Thanks all for the welcome greetings today. Must go into lurk mode - boss is floating around :) Great insight by all today.. this expands my mind! good day all!:biggrin:

[Imperfect4]

I think someone on the defense team would have to object to the release of those documents and reference those arguments. I don't think Judge acts on his own, if so he'd spend all day viewing documents and videos.

which witness is deceased?

Sean Krause.

[seeing_eye]

I can't imagine the Anthonys knew Caylee was dead at the beginning. Even for them - nope. Cindy's fear and anguish was real only once - when she called 911. I think they pieced together what happened after the fact and then went into cover up mode.

Although with this group, anything is possible - so I'm not putting any money behind this statement!

Stella, I agree with you. I believe Cindy's fear and anguish was real when she called 911. But I do believe she and George both knew, if only subconsciously, that Caylee was dead when they smelled the car. I think it's possible they would not let themselves believe it consciously until Casey admitted to Lee that she had not seen Caylee for 31 days. That does not negate the fact that they may have subconsciously gone into cover-up mode by washing pants, etc.

[kitty1182]

But the wording by the judge left me with the feeling that it is not helpful to the defendant. Maybe I am reading too much into it?

I'm thinking the Judge means it's NOT helpful to Casey...

IMO. if it was helpful. JB would want it shown..

[imc_e]

When Casey is convicted of murdering Caylee, I bet the Anthonys will be back at the Ritz with producers, book deals etc..ordering crab puffs.

:sneaky:

[Grins]

We have not heard the end of the jail house taping of Dec 11.

=if there was a prior agreement among LE, jail officials and SA or any combination of or within them, then inquiry must be made into whether defendant had at that time any statutory or Constitutional right which was violated thereby.

=if so, a conspiracy may be alleged and criminal and civil penalties may be assessed against any party to any conspiracy.

=this is a serious matter and accounts for all the depositions taken and to be taken regarding that incident and what followed the taping.

=defense may request authority to depose someone in the State Attorney's Office.

[AnniePie]

Not sure if this has been posted but it is sure worth being posted again.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121265


This woman has had enough!

That was good! I hope the Anthonys read that and know that most of the country feels that way about them. :mad:

[Patty437]

Well, this confirms for me that her reaction can't be mistaken for that of a bereaved parent.

Yeah, and with the blow-by-blow description given by the jailers, we really don't even need to see it.

[imc_e]

Stella, I agree with you. I believe Cindy's fear and anguish was real when she called 911. But I do believe she and George both knew, if only subconsciously, that Caylee was dead when they smelled the car. I think it's possible they would not let themselves believe it consciously until Casey admitted to Lee that she had not seen Caylee for 31 days. That does not negate the fact that they may have subconsciously gone into cover-up mode by washing pants, etc.

Before Cindy went on her obstruction of evidence cleaning spree, didn't she confront Casey in her room with..

"WHAT have you DONE?!"

[True2Blues]

But the wording by the judge left me with the feeling that it is not helpful to the defendant. Maybe I am reading too much into it?

I'm sure it's not good for her.

I think the fact that she felt the need to put on a show (I don't believe she showed any real emotion) before it was confirmed that the remains were Caylee is the most damning thing, and we all know she did that already.

If the Judge feels it's best from a legal standpoint to seal it up, I say let him. There's plenty of evidence that points to Casey already, probably lots we don't even know about. Why take the chance?

[kitty1182]

Before Cindy went on her obstruction of evidence cleaning spree, didn't she confront Casey in her room with..

"WHAT have you DONE?!

Yes, I believe she did..

[Imperfect4]

Everytime I read the following paragraphs in the ABC article from yesterday - I see red. Who are the Anthony's to take control of Florida's Sunshine Laws as it pertains to Casey's case? I will try to put the link to the article, but I really don't know how to do it. :sad:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7844545&page=1



"The goal at this point is to take control over the information that goes out and to have people stop and wait and think about the fact that we all have the right to a fair trial," Conway said. "The utlimate prejudice is it is commented on endlessly by shows that try to present themselves as news shows and so the public gets a skewed version of what's really going on... My point is people crawl out of the woodwork to make comments on this and nobody knows whether it's true or not."

In the meantime, Conway and Baez are expected to make several more motions concerning the release of evidence, both to give a new addition to the defense team, death penalty specialist Andrea Lyon, time to prepare for the trial and to spare the "fragile" Anthony's from repeated media reports about their dead granddaughter.

You did just fine with the link. :smile:

Oddly, I guess the law is there to be challenged every step of the way, if the defense (and other assorted characters, apparently) so chooses.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.

And I have no doubt Conway and Baez will challenge and delay every chance they get from now to trial.

[aproudmom]

Yeah, I'm a night owl.

I refused to listen to G & C on their pity party tour yesterday morning. They never have been able to keep their stories straight, so it's easy to see where their kids get it from. LMAO that LP called George on his tale telling on NG last night.

To tell you the truth I did not even know until this morning they had been on a media blitz again..so I did not miss anything I guess.

[imc_e]

Yesterday when I was thinking about what is in the autopsy report, I got to thinking about the duct tape and how it could have been wrapped around her head.

Then I remembered Caylee in the last clip with her Gpa, and she had her hair in a pony tail.

I think she was killed on the 15th, myself, and knowing the ME had to cut the hair off that duct tape..

suggested to me that the tape wasn't just covering her mouth, but wrapped around to the back of her head. The hair at the back, with the pony tail, keeping the tape on.

I know its so sad to think of, but that was my thoughts about what I expect to read in the autopsy report and the ME summary..

:closedeyes:

[True2Blues]

When Casey is convicted of murdering Caylee, I bet the Anthonys will be back at the Ritz with producers, book deals etc..ordering crab puffs.

:sneaky:

I bet you're right. Anything for $$$$ and camera time. They make me sick, the pair of them. They're parasites. Look how they tried to latch onto the Haliegh Cummings case. And look at the vitriol Cindy is spewing at the Father of a missing child, because he doesn't want them there grandstanding.

[Imperfect4]

Right. We can't forget that the Great OZ is always behind the curtain!

She didn't pay for photos but she didnt respond to whether some of the proceeds from the book were going to the A Foundation.
ie: Cindys pocket.

I can't buy the book knowing that, AND I have read her other books.

Not THIS one.

jmo

I'm of the opinion there's lots of money flowing through some loophole and into the bank accounts of G&C, and Casey's dream team.

This is a matter of simple semantics -- word games. No, nothing is being paid for <fill in the blank>. But plenty IS being paid for whatever term it is you're not using at the moment.

And no, neither <Casey nor Baez> are being paid licensing fees. But someone or some entity is.

Word games, imo. There's money flowing. The A's aren't working and suddenly have no more debt (per a post here yesterday), and the dream team grows expert by expert. Money's flowing, but trying to ask the right question using the right words to get a straight answer is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

[penguinlady]

I've been wondering about Coyote, too. Anybody seen her around?

That is why I posted earlier about wanting to know who is behind some of the nics around here. There are several people that I don't see anymore...and I know that there are a few wandering around in new clothes! :ohmy:

IMO!
K!

[True2Blues]

To tell you the truth I did not even know until this morning they had been on a media blitz again..so I did not miss anything I guess.


Just nausea and a raise in Blood Pressure. I don't watch them either, I get furious enough just reading the reports of their latest evil deeds.

[bballgrl]

Stay and post with us! :thumbup:
At least your link had something to do with the case, last time I tried posting a link it ended up being a movie trailer for GI JOE!!! ;)


But... I like GI Joe

[True2Blues]

Not sure if this has been posted but it is sure worth being posted again.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121265


This woman has had enough!

She's got Cindy's number.:thumbsup:

[Dietcokefan]

So, important question here, and may need the legal experts to answer this one.

The judge has granted the motion to seal the jailhouse video tape from being released to the media, or via the media...because it is inflammatory. What does this mean about the use of the tape during the criminal proceedings? Can the tape still be used in the criminal proceedings, just not released to the media?

TIA

[summer]

I'm of the opinion there's lots of money flowing through some loophole and into the bank accounts of G&C, and Casey's dream team.

This is a matter of simple semantics -- word games. No, nothing is being paid for <fill in the blank>. But plenty IS being paid for whatever term it is you're not using at the moment.

And no, neither <Casey nor Baez> are being paid licensing fees. But someone or some entity is.

Word games, imo. There's money flowing. The A's aren't working and suddenly have no more debt (per a post here yesterday), and the dream team grows expert by expert. Money's flowing, but trying to ask the right question using the right words to get a straight answer is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

That's just perfect, Imperfect. :smile:

[summer]

She's got Cindy's number.:thumbsup:

It's so funny - this woman always writes such great stuff and she never gets any comments.

[*MoonRider*]

I'm sure it's not good for her.

I think the fact that she felt the need to put on a show (I don't believe she showed any real emotion) before it was confirmed that the remains were Caylee is the most damning thing, and we all know she did that already.

If the Judge feels it's best from a legal standpoint to seal it up, I say let him. There's plenty of evidence that points to Casey already, probably lots we don't even know about. Why take the chance?
I think part of the problem with the video is that is shows Casey in her jail jumpsuit and waist chains. Even though jurors know that a defendant is in jail, they don't let them see them in cuffs. At least not on the juries that I have served on.

[aproudmom]

Here is the judge's order about the video:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-06/47547600.pdf

I can live with that was not a big deal to me I know she killed her daughter that is all that matters..I don't want anything coming back to make it look like poor little KC..she is going down she might as well get used to it...tape or not she is a goner..IMO:biggrin:

[Elle]

I'm sure it's not good for her.

I think the fact that she felt the need to put on a show (I don't believe she showed any real emotion) before it was confirmed that the remains were Caylee is the most damning thing, and we all know she did that already.

If the Judge feels it's best from a legal standpoint to seal it up, I say let him. There's plenty of evidence that points to Casey already, probably lots we don't even know about. Why take the chance?

I agree. I would rather hear nothing else about this case than risk Casey M. Anthony ever stepping foot as a free person.

[imc_e]

I bet you're right. Anything for $$$$ and camera time. They make me sick, the pair of them. They're parasites. Look how they tried to latch onto the Haliegh Cummings case. And look at the vitriol Cindy is spewing at the Father of a missing child, because he doesn't want them there grandstanding.

That was dispicable of Cindy to bring Haleighs family up, on the anniversary of the murder of Caylee.

I hope they respond to her, it was so RUDE.

I'm surprized Cindy didn't bring up Oprah! :mad:

[FallenAngel♥]

I wonder when we will hear a ruling on the Autopsy report.

[boo]

From CA herself... as if.

the bears cost about 3.75 to make, this includes the T-shirt for the bear. They come with a letter of Safety for all ages and are from a US distributor. 5.00 per bear would cover all costs of shipping and handling. The first 500 bears are due in next week, we will be giving them to our local chapters of LE, this was made possible through a local donor. As we continue to receive donations we will continue to expand the bears into other communities. Anyone that wants to do a fund raiser in their community for the bears we will assist. Thank you.

[desmom]

I wonder when we will hear a ruling on the Autopsy report.

On break from mowing, and thought I'd check in to see if we have the autopsy report yet.

If Judge Strickland can sign one motion today, why can't he sign two? :tonguewag:

[FallenAngel♥]

On break from mowing, and thought I'd check in to see if we have the autopsy report yet.

If Judge Strickland can sign one motion today, why can't he sign two? :tonguewag:

maybe his pen ran out of ink :sad:

[imc_e]

I'm of the opinion there's lots of money flowing through some loophole and into the bank accounts of G&C, and Casey's dream team.

This is a matter of simple semantics -- word games. No, nothing is being paid for <fill in the blank>. But plenty IS being paid for whatever term it is you're not using at the moment.

And no, neither <Casey nor Baez> are being paid licensing fees. But someone or some entity is.

Word games, imo. There's money flowing. The A's aren't working and suddenly have no more debt (per a post here yesterday), and the dream team grows expert by expert. Money's flowing, but trying to ask the right question using the right words to get a straight answer is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

Love that...trying to nail jello to the wall!

Your comments about the $$$ reminds me of Diane Fanning, author of the upcoming 1st book on the case, DODGING my questions about whether some of the proceeds go to CMA Foundation.

Here she was on IS claiming to not having paid for photos, YET no reply about proceeds..was offered.

VERY very telling.

I'd appreciate it if Diane Fanning came back here to day and answered that question.

[aproudmom]

IMO I think the def. was so stupid they could have used this against the state and the jail saying they did this to her on purpose and the 2 jailers said they felt it was wrong what they did plus remember she had no reaction to the possible bones found at BP no video though just hearsay so I say they should have used it against them and said they were trying to treat her bad..so bad for JB and dream team I think it could have helped them..don't forget she told mommy and daddy on a visit they told her if caylee was not found they would charge her no matter what even though she did not do it of course that was out of the liars mouth...JMO

[Dietcokefan]

So, important question here, and may need the legal experts to answer this one.

The judge has granted the motion to seal the jailhouse video tape from being released to the media, or via the media...because it is inflammatory. What does this mean about the use of the tape during the criminal proceedings? Can the tape still be used in the criminal proceedings, just not released to the media?

TIA

I think now that I've completely read the document, I've answered my own question...duh! It can be used at trial, this is merely a delay in releasing to the media in order to prevent a tainting of the jury pool...

Makes me feel good that at least it appears those that will be on the actual jury come trial will be able to view this and make a judgment.

[imc_e]

From CA herself... as if.

the bears cost about 3.75 to make, this includes the T-shirt for the bear. They come with a letter of Safety for all ages and are from a US distributor. 5.00 per bear would cover all costs of shipping and handling. The first 500 bears are due in next week, we will be giving them to our local chapters of LE, this was made possible through a local donor. As we continue to receive donations we will continue to expand the bears into other communities. Anyone that wants to do a fund raiser in their community for the bears we will assist. Thank you.


barf

the public is to give Caylee bears to live children??

"Here sweety.. heres a bear named Caylee who was murdered by her Mommy, and thrown away in garbage bags."

[Elle]

Stella, I agree with you. I believe Cindy's fear and anguish was real when she called 911. But I do believe she and George both knew, if only subconsciously, that Caylee was dead when they smelled the car. I think it's possible they would not let themselves believe it consciously until Casey admitted to Lee that she had not seen Caylee for 31 days. That does not negate the fact that they may have subconsciously gone into cover-up mode by washing pants, etc.


George was the first to smell the car, and he stated he knew what the smell was and needed to have the tow guy go around to the trunk w/ him. He then stated that he whispered under his breath "please don't let this be my Caylee". Who thinks that? I know the smell was in the car, and I know that they had not seen Caylee for a month, but by all accounts, Caylee was with Casey, and they knew Casey was safe. It's one thing to believe that your daughter may be witholding your grandchild, another to believe that she has been lying about her being alive, yet that is the first place George went, Caylee dead in the trunk. To think that, you have to IMO, have some belief that your child is capapble of more than just run of 'mistruthing' and stealing. George then got in the car that smelled of death, never calling police, never trying to call Casey, went home, put the car in the garage, took out the battery, and went to work. WTH!

[Imperfect4]

But the wording by the judge left me with the feeling that it is not helpful to the defendant. Maybe I am reading too much into it?

No, you're not. Your eyes are fine. Beware the spin. The judge could've used the single word "inflammatory." He chose "highly inflammatory." Imo, everything about the wording of his ruling screams the video is bad news for the defense.

[bchand]

Sean Krause.

I don't recall seeing his name on the witness list, do you Imp?

[Imperfect4]

Stella, I agree with you. I believe Cindy's fear and anguish was real when she called 911. But I do believe she and George both knew, if only subconsciously, that Caylee was dead when they smelled the car. I think it's possible they would not let themselves believe it consciously until Casey admitted to Lee that she had not seen Caylee for 31 days. That does not negate the fact that they may have subconsciously gone into cover-up mode by washing pants, etc.

This is what I've been inclined to believe as well. Except why have they lied about the last time they saw Caylee? And why embellish the lie a year later?

[Imperfect4]

We have not heard the end of the jail house taping of Dec 11.

=if there was a prior agreement among LE, jail officials and SA or any combination of or within them, then inquiry must be made into whether defendant had at that time any statutory or Constitutional right which was violated thereby.

=if so, a conspiracy may be alleged and criminal and civil penalties may be assessed against any party to any conspiracy.

=this is a serious matter and accounts for all the depositions taken and to be taken regarding that incident and what followed the taping.

=defense may request authority to depose someone in the State Attorney's Office.

Imo, it's only a serious matter because the defense isn't equipped to, or isn't of a mind to attend to the real serious matter, which is mounting an actual defense for their client that might have a snowball's chance in hell of impressing a jury.

[aproudmom]

maybe his pen ran out of ink :sad:

:thumbsup:lol sorry was funny ran out of ink

[adair]

I bet George and Cindy and Lee will be bought into it..
Remember what Casey told somebody about what LA did to her?
Defense will probally say it warped her mind..imo

I wonder if they are going to go with the insanity defense.....your post reminded me of the movie Cybil.
ZFG was one of kc personalities.....

If that were the case I expect to see a slew of shrinks visiting her, and on the witness list. I guess its not too late for that to happen, and if it does I expect delay, delay etc.

....another thought about the ring, if it would have been found around the area of Caylee's remains, would we have known that yet?

TIA jmo

jmo

[Rapunzel]

Thanks for coming out to say hello. :seeya:

There are a lot of lurkers/readers that follow along this sad case.
Its hard to look away from what you know will be a train wreck!

I feel that if Cindy had only gotten her daughter some psychiatric help, that Caylee would still be alive.

At the very least, she should have held her accountable to the consquences of her poor choices, like the stealing.

But no, now we clearly see that Cindy wants Casey to get away with murder. The murder of Caylee, their grandchild.

Its inconscienable !


Hell....the whole freakin family would have needed psychiatric help!!!!!!!!!:scared::scared:

[Grins]

I think now that I've completely read the document, I've answered my own question...duh! It can be used at trial, this is merely a delay in releasing to the media in order to prevent a tainting of the jury pool...

Makes me feel good that at least it appears those that will be on the actual jury come trial will be able to view this and make a judgment.That video may be offered by either side at trial, at which time the moving party must prove to the judge that it is relevant to some trial issue and that it is a reliable representation of the actual event.
It must pass all other indicia of admissibility based upon the nature of the item.
All this is done outside the presence of the jury.

This process goes for all exhibits.

Many are agreed upon and marked [stipulated to] prior to trial in order to save time and permit use in opening statements.

Nothing done up to now assures that the video will be shown to the jury.

[Imperfect4]

Before Cindy went on her obstruction of evidence cleaning spree, didn't she confront Casey in her room with..

"WHAT have you DONE?!"

My recollection is Cindy was outside the house pacing or on the phone or whatever, while Lee was coaxing Casey into doing something besides stonewalling. It would seem (this is all according to Lee's LE interview, btw), that when Cindy next appeared in the doorway of Casey's room, she took note of Casey's tears and realized she was giving additional info to her brother. I forget what was supposedly said by Casey or Lee at that second, but it was followed quickly by Cindy's question, "What have you done?"

And this all took place, I thought, several hours after the car was brought home from the tow yard, and all the cleaning and laundering went on. But I'm not sure of the sequence of the cleaning and laundering events relative to when they brought the car home.

[ish]

I bet you're right. Anything for $$$$ and camera time. They make me sick, the pair of them. They're parasites. Look how they tried to latch onto the Haliegh Cummings case. And look at the vitriol Cindy is spewing at the Father of a missing child, because he doesn't want them there grandstanding.

Cindy is doing to Ron Cumming what she feels the media did to her, criticize. Ron however has not asked anyone to not look for his child and perhaps if George and Cindy went down there to help search he would not have objected. They however want to stand around for photo ops and sound bites while using every opportunity to get a word in for Casey's defense, not get in the mud and muck with the rest of the searchers. But then they didn't want to get dirty looking for "that little girl" either. Annie Downing said they were clean freaks, cleaning 24/7, maybe like the old saying goes "scrubbing their souls"

[Imperfect4]

I'm sure it's not good for her.

I think the fact that she felt the need to put on a show (I don't believe she showed any real emotion) before it was confirmed that the remains were Caylee is the most damning thing, and we all know she did that already.

If the Judge feels it's best from a legal standpoint to seal it up, I say let him. There's plenty of evidence that points to Casey already, probably lots we don't even know about. Why take the chance?

And the state doesn't seem to care one way or the other, except it's been a distraction for several weeks. Thus their request to Judge S that he rule on the thing so everyone could move on.

[Sun]

I'm going to be very interested to see how Judge Strickland rules in regards to the release of the Autopsy Report and Findings. This week is half over.

[Imperfect4]

I bet you're right. Anything for $$$$ and camera time. They make me sick, the pair of them. They're parasites. Look how they tried to latch onto the Haliegh Cummings case. And look at the vitriol Cindy is spewing at the Father of a missing child, because he doesn't want them there grandstanding.

She's a horrible person, period. This tragedy didn't make her one, and clearly, it didn't cure her either.

[Rapunzel]

I find this interesting. I wonder IF this occurred and Caylee was hurt but a month later Cindy didn't think of what took place a month before between she and Casey. OR...maybe Casey told Cindy she was Hyperventilating in the car and she stopped breathing and it was Cindy's fault because of the fight they had. She panicked when the baby stopped breathing and didn't know what to do.
This mother is such a pathological liar, who knows what story she made up to brother Lee. You know he knows everything. Well, everything sissy told him to be true.:glare:
jmo

The baby stopped breathing because she was smothered or strangled...JMO

[*MoonRider*]

Cindy is doing to Ron Cumming what she feels the media did to her, criticize. Ron however has not asked anyone to not look for his child and perhaps if George and Cindy went down there to help search he would not have objected. They however want to stand around for photo ops and sound bites while using every opportunity to get a word in for Casey's defense, not get in the mud and muck with the rest of the searchers. But then they didn't want to get dirty looking for "that little girl" either. Annie Downing said they were clean freaks, cleaning 24/7, maybe like the old saying goes "scrubbing their souls"

They are not helping in the Ocasio search either. I don't think Tim would welcome them anyway.
http://www.wesh.com/news/19779635/detail.html

[summer]

I'm going to be very interested to see how Judge Strickland rules in regards to the release of the Autopsy Report and Findings. This week is half over.

Wonder if part of the reason for the delay is that Conway dragged his heels on re-submitting the motion to the proper party (the media).

I'm probably wrong here because someone else would've brought this up. Oh never mind. :smile:

[desmom]

We have not heard the end of the jail house taping of Dec 11.

=if there was a prior agreement among LE, jail officials and SA or any combination of or within them, then inquiry must be made into whether defendant had at that time any statutory or Constitutional right which was violated thereby.

=if so, a conspiracy may be alleged and criminal and civil penalties may be assessed against any party to any conspiracy.

=this is a serious matter and accounts for all the depositions taken and to be taken regarding that incident and what followed the taping.

=defense may request authority to depose someone in the State Attorney's Office.


:seeya: Grins

I used to run with a EMS unit. It was not uncommon if someone was about to received bad news regarding a loved one, the minister, LE or whoever was the bearer of the news would request an EMT to accompany them to the house.

From what I have read, there is nothing in writing stating LE wanted Casey moved to the jail so her reaction could be observed . All the orders were via their walkie talkie/cell phones. Is it possible the personnel that moved Casey put their own spin on the verbal orders? We all played telephone as a child, and know the original statement sounds nothing like the statement after it makes its way around the circle.

Is it possible LE notified the jail of the discovery and one of the top brass of the jail thought it be wise to move Casey to the infirmary as a safety precaution?

:shrug:

[imc_e]

Hell....the whole freakin family would have needed psychiatric help!!!!!!!!!:scared::scared:


Family discount could have applied!! :laugh:

They all have issues, but one of them is a murderer and the rest should be charged with obstruction and tampering with evidence.

Going back to last summer, my hubby said something sad but true..he said Caylee was too good for them, and she was better off not being raised by that family.

I know what he was saying and I couldn't disagree with him.

I just wish a good family had her, not the wicked Anthonys who were ruining her and are part and party to her murder.

MOO

[EverMoth]

I think the video is the only thing the defense has requested be sealed.

Awhile ago someone posted something that was written by a man named Peter. Apparently his girlfriend worked for Baez and quit because of the disgustingness of the case as well as how he was "carrying on" with Casey. Apparently the tape contained inappropriate contact between Baez and Casey. They didn't know it was being taped and he had his hand on her butt. This is hearsay but it makes sense as to why Baez went ballistic trying to get this sealed.

[boo]

What if, upon watching the video, Casey actually apologized out loud, confessing?

Nah. Lost my head.

[Imperfect4]

That is why I posted earlier about wanting to know who is behind some of the nics around here. There are several people that I don't see anymore...and I know that there are a few wandering around in new clothes! :ohmy:

IMO!
K!

People who've returned with new nics aren't eager to make themselves targets by announcing it. Make sense?

[Rapunzel]

The reason Cindy gave Tim Miller such a hard time is because she did not want anyone searching for a dead Caylee...in doing so he might have found her...if everyone was out searching for a live Caylee...the Anthony's knew she would never be found...JMO

Hence all the bogus sightings...keep everyone busy

[imc_e]

My recollection is Cindy was outside the house pacing or on the phone or whatever, while Lee was coaxing Casey into doing something besides stonewalling. It would seem (this is all according to Lee's LE interview, btw), that when Cindy next appeared in the doorway of Casey's room, she took note of Casey's tears and realized she was giving additional info to her brother. I forget what was supposedly said by Casey or Lee at that second, but it was followed quickly by Cindy's question, "What have you done?"

And this all took place, I thought, several hours after the car was brought home from the tow yard, and all the cleaning and laundering went on. But I'm not sure of the sequence of the cleaning and laundering events relative to when they brought the car home.


"What have you DONE?!...and slammed her fist down

Thats when Cindy KNEW for certain.

[AnniePie]

Love that...trying to nail jello to the wall!

Your comments about the $$$ reminds me of Diane Fanning, author of the upcoming 1st book on the case, DODGING my questions about whether some of the proceeds go to CMA Foundation.

Here she was on IS claiming to not having paid for photos, YET no reply about proceeds..was offered.

VERY very telling.

I'd appreciate it if Diane Fanning came back here to day and answered that question.


That phrase about nailing jello to a wall is something I've always said about trying to keep my three sons under control. :laugh:

I went to Diane Fanning's website and sent her an email asking if any of the proceeds of her book were going to the Anthony's foundation. I haven't heard back from her, but if she responds I'll let you all know.

[imc_e]

The reason Cindy gave Tim Miller such a hard time is because she did not want anyone searching for a dead Caylee...in doing so he might have found her...if everyone was out searching for a live Caylee...the Anthony's knew she would never be found...JMO

Hence all the bogus sightings...keep everyone busy

Funny you mention the bogus sightings.

They have been on my mind lately.

I was thinking that Cindy made the sightings up to try to create reasonable doubt.

No body, no murder, WITH sightings. Hah!

When she KNEW Caylee was dead, and would not be found alive.

:cursing:

[summer]

She's a horrible person, period. This tragedy didn't make her one, and clearly, it didn't cure her either.

ITA. I think what happens is a personal tragedy can bring out the strength of character of a person -- you're put to the ultimate test and most good people rise to the occasion.

It's a small example but I remember how Christopher Reeves' wife took care of him after his accident. Wasn't the life she had envisioned for sure - she married a pretty glamorous and successful man. Also think of Michael J. Fox's wife. She couldn't have counted on what happened either.

And so many crime victims' families have turned their tragedies into something to help others. Really help others. Mark Klass, John Walsh, etc. etc.

Like you said - the Anthonys have always been what we see today. No more, no less. IMO.

[imc_e]

That phrase about nailing jello to a wall is something I've always said about trying to keep my three sons under control. :laugh:

I went to Diane Fanning's website and sent her an email asking if any of the proceeds of her book were going to the Anthony's foundation. I haven't heard back from her, but if she responds I'll let you all know.


Thank you Annie Pooh :wub:

[EverMoth]

I wonder if they are going to go with the insanity defense.....TIA jmo

jmo

This could be one angle, if AL can get Casey to confess. However, I think this would be risky in terms of jury belief. She seemed perfectly "sane" before and after the murder. A narcissistic psychopath, perhaps, but insane? I don't think so.

AL is going to want to try the case with whatever strategy would most guarantee removal of the DP. SODDIT is never gonna work. Insanity, imo, would have a slim chance. Plea deal for LWOP would be the best bet for AL. But whether it is insanity or plea deal, Casey would have to confess. jmo

[bonniez45]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?

[Sun]

Love that...trying to nail jello to the wall!

Your comments about the $$$ reminds me of Diane Fanning, author of the upcoming 1st book on the case, DODGING my questions about whether some of the proceeds go to CMA Foundation.

Here she was on IS claiming to not having paid for photos, YET no reply about proceeds..was offered.

VERY very telling.

I'd appreciate it if Diane Fanning came back here to day and answered that question.

It's my belief that Diane Fanning is not giving ANY proceeds to the Anthony family, or to any foundation or fund that is in any way related to the Anthony family. This is Fanning's book, she is a writer, and that is her occupation. The money from it isn't funneled in any way to the Anthonys, as I understand it.

[Stella Rose]

She's a horrible person, period. This tragedy didn't make her one, and clearly, it didn't cure her either.

My Granny always said there is nothing like a death in the family to bring out everyone's true colors. As always, Granny was right!

[adair]

I think she went to Lee's.


Me too.

Does anyone know if LE interviewed Lee's room mates, what about Mallory, was she interviewed? I don't recall seeing any?

[Grins]

Hiya Desmom :thumbsup:
You are Hero to me for running with an EMS Unit. I have seen their life-saving dedication and keen recall later in many cases and they always amazed me.
There are none to compare with them in what they do at such speed and professionalism. Well done!

The medical help offer here was usual and sound. No problem there.

The sequence of events and actions are not all known yet.
We shall see.

[Thisbe II]

That is why I posted earlier about wanting to know who is behind some of the nics around here. There are several people that I don't see anymore...and I know that there are a few wandering around in new clothes! :ohmy:

IMO!
K!

Dear K,

:seeya: Well this NIC is an old poster from Spector I whose original NIC with lotsa posts was somehow cancelled when the board changed over from Court to Tru. I have..well witnesses who remember me from Spec 1 . I am on Sprockets facebook friends list....Just PM me and I will give ya a full resume.

The reason I am not as neg towards the Ants (yet anyway) is that I am fairly new to this case. Have been reading all the doc dumps, old posts,etc. Give me time....Seems like to Know them is to Not love them. I just havent been around the block with them yet. I am in Orlando lots since the grands live there and I know what big case this has been and the outpouring of concern in that community.

Looking forward to getting to know you guys better as time passes.

:smile: Gin (in the woods in Northern Illinois)

[margaritaville]

I'm of the opinion there's lots of money flowing through some loophole and into the bank accounts of G&C, and Casey's dream team.

This is a matter of simple semantics -- word games. No, nothing is being paid for <fill in the blank>. But plenty IS being paid for whatever term it is you're not using at the moment.

And no, neither <Casey nor Baez> are being paid licensing fees. But someone or some entity is.

Word games, imo. There's money flowing. The A's aren't working and suddenly have no more debt (per a post here yesterday), and the dream team grows expert by expert. Money's flowing, but trying to ask the right question using the right words to get a straight answer is like trying to nail Jello to a wall.

ITA with your post..

And to add just a bit to it... How ever they are getting the money, JB had to go behind closed doors and tell the judge where the money is coming from and i haven't heard a peep about it..So I am assuming that it is all legal...

[Sun]

No, you're not. Your eyes are fine. Beware the spin. The judge could've used the single word "inflammatory." He chose "highly inflammatory." Imo, everything about the wording of his ruling screams the video is bad news for the defense.

You are so right! ....and I don't really mind if the media isn't allowed to get their hands on the jail video, and that we don't get to see it now. I'm hoping that a change of venue to south Florida will NOT be granted to the defense, so if Judge Strickland thinks it best to keep this under wraps with that in mind, I'm o.k. with it.

If by any chance the State is granted to right to show the jail video to the Jury, then as Judge Strickland stated, it could be very, very bad news for the defense.

[EverMoth]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?


I am not sure but, it would seem, that the lead attorney on the case would certainly be able to meet with her client without the company of Baez.

[margaritaville]

But... I like GI Joe

Me too.. He is right up there with Iron-man!

especially now that he has the "kung fu grip"...........lol

[summer]

The reason Cindy gave Tim Miller such a hard time is because she did not want anyone searching for a dead Caylee...in doing so he might have found her...if everyone was out searching for a live Caylee...the Anthony's knew she would never be found...JMO

Hence all the bogus sightings...keep everyone busy

Cindy has admitted she sent D.Casey out to the exact spot where Caylee's remains were way before Kronk arrived on the scene. If this can be totally documented and the dots connected in such a way to prove Cindy knew for certain where the body was -- then I think it's totally possible to get her on financial fraud charges and they would stick. The way they were out there every single day soliciting funds was so corrupt! IMO.

I think the money angle, more than obstruction (which I guess can be spun away), is the best chance of the family going down.

I think the FBI is going to nail them when the time is right. OK wishful thinking but whatever.

ETA - I love Kronk for saving my sanity. If I heard one more supposed sighting of Caylee out of their crooked mouths I would've gone nuts. Thank you mr. meterman!

[Grins]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?Any lawyer on the team may see her unless there is an agreement among themselves.

[*MoonRider*]

My Granny always said there is nothing like a death in the family to bring out everyone's true colors. As always, Granny was right!

One smart granny. Once the Anthony's got a taste of money, limos and crab puffs they refuse to go back to the real world. I think karma will catch up with this odious family and I hope it's soon. jmo

[ish]

Funny you mention the bogus sightings.

They have been on my mind lately.

I was thinking that Cindy made the sightings up to try to create reasonable doubt.

No body, no murder, WITH sightings. Hah!

When she KNEW Caylee was dead, and would not be found alive.

:cursing:

according to Dominic Casey, it was Cindy who screened the tips coming in via email and other sources. she then gave the ones SHE felt were promising to Dominic to forward to LE or to check out himself. I believe the only tips she ever gave to LE were those referencing a "live" sighting. The nuts and psychics who saw "death" all got 86'd, no followup.
The only possible location of a body tip given to Dom Casey was the one he videotaped with the other PI. and there is controversy over whether CIndy gave him that tip to follow up on or if Dom was contacted by a tipster directly.

[imc_e]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dennisngriffin/2009/02/05/the-caylee-anthony-case

Diane Fanning interview with Dennis Griffin regarding the book.

[Sun]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?

chuckles... she would have the right to see Casey anytime that she chose. I just wonder if someone would email Kathi Belich and ask her nicely, to see if she couldn't get her hands on Casey's Inmate Visitors Log for the last several months...back to January 26th. Then we could all know just who is seeing Casey in the jail. I would do this email myself, however, can't seem to get my PC to work with the email link on her WFTV site.

[Rapunzel]

I was looking at the charges against Casey on the Inmate search.

She has a charge of uttering a forged check and one for forgery of a check. What the difference?

I also noticed she has a charge of grand theft 3rd degree. I didn't know she had that one. I remember Cindy saying that on the 911 call. So did Cindy actually press charges? What did I miss?

I don't know, but the more charges the merrier I say...:biggrin::biggrin:

[*MoonRider*]

chuckles... she would have the right to see Casey anytime that she chose. I just wonder if someone would email Kathi Belich and ask her nicely, to see if she couldn't get her hands on Casey's Inmate Visitors Log for the last several months...back to January 26th. Then we could all know just who is seeing Casey in the jail. I would do this email myself, however, can't seem to get my PC to work with the email link on her WFTV site.

kathi.belich@wftv.com :seeya:

[crimeq]

I fully believe Tony Lazarro will have it covered as well. I believe based upon the phone records we know to be true that Tony Lazarro will be able to testify in great detail as to the extent of the rift the evening of the 15th between Cindy and Casey. Remember Casey's phone communication with Tony began at 7:05 pm on the 15th (I believe shortly after the blow up with Cindy) and lasted non-stop with either text or conversation til 3:22 am on June 16th. That is 8 hours and 22 minutes of non-stop communication. Many believe Caylee was murdered during this time-frame.

IMO Tony is going to be the star witness for the prosecution. We have never heard him in any prior interview be asked by LE about this time period. We have not seen any documents related to this topic. Don't believe for one second that LE forgot to cover it. They are sitting on it. Why haven't we seen Tony Lazarro in any public interview? Because he is intelligent enough not to put his credibility on display prior to the trial. Give this young man credit, he has done what others have chosen not to do, and that is stay quiet and assist LE in any and every way possible.

I can't wait for the trial and for Tony to testify in front of OC. His testimony will be insightful, it will be powerful, it will be incriminating and it will help send the OC to death row where she rightfully belongs. IMO

It will be very interesting to watch Casey's face when Tony is on the witness stand. She'll be crushed. I bet the pushups she's doing in her jail cell (scuse me, dorm room) are to help her look good for Tony. :sneaky:

[darcie]

Geez, Louise. What the heck is IN that thing? :scared:

Does make a person wonder!!!

I wager that she was seen laughing and smiling! At first, weeks ago, I thought maybe it had something to do with Baez, and how they grieved (lack of better words) together. but if that was the case, I think the judge would be shaking his finger at Baez. So I go with laughing....

What ya all think?

Ohhhh... and this is JUST MY OPINION...

[crimeq]

I don't care one bit about the jail house video where she reacted to Caylee's body being found. Glad that issue is over,

BUT I do want that autopsy report!

Come on media, get it!

I agree with you. What the judge said about the contents of the jail house video pretty much tells us what the tape shows, anyway. It's not in Casey's favor at all.

But YES I want the autopsy report!

[Rapunzel]

New Blink on Crime...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-exclusive-cindy-anthonys-scathing-message-to-tim-miller/

[True2Blues]

From CA herself... as if.

the bears cost about 3.75 to make, this includes the T-shirt for the bear. They come with a letter of Safety for all ages and are from a US distributor. 5.00 per bear would cover all costs of shipping and handling. The first 500 bears are due in next week, we will be giving them to our local chapters of LE, this was made possible through a local donor. As we continue to receive donations we will continue to expand the bears into other communities. Anyone that wants to do a fund raiser in their community for the bears we will assist. Thank you.


Well isn't that just.....interesting.

Sure, I'll do fund raiser for you Cindy. Call me the day Satan ice skates to work. (blech):tongueside:

[margaritaville]

This could be one angle, if AL can get Casey to confess. However, I think this would be risky in terms of jury belief. She seemed perfectly "sane" before and after the murder. A narcissistic psychopath, perhaps, but insane? I don't think so.

AL is going to want to try the case with whatever strategy would most guarantee removal of the DP. SODDIT is never gonna work. Insanity, imo, would have a slim chance. Plea deal for LWOP would be the best bet for AL. But whether it is insanity or plea deal, Casey would have to confess. jmo


Could she just say yeah I did it.. Or does she have to tell all the details?
And if it is all the details, can they seal that from the public?

MOO

[Freefall]

I don't know, but the more charges the merrier I say...:biggrin::biggrin:

I believe that uttering a forged check is trying to pass it and forgery of a check is making it.

IMO

[TunaMelt]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?

I think that's up to KC.

[boo]

Does make a person wonder!!!

I wager that she was seen laughing and smiling! At first, weeks ago, I thought maybe it had something to do with Baez, and how they grieved (lack of better words) together. but if that was the case, I think the judge would be shaking his finger at Baez. So I go with laughing....

What ya all think?

Ohhhh... and this is JUST MY OPINION...

Funny you mention the finger. My husband said at lunch today (upon hearing there will be no release of the jailhouse video), "it wouldn't surprise me a bit of the OC flipped a Lee at the television while reporting Caylee had been found."

Might not be too far off the mark.

[True2Blues]

Cindy is doing to Ron Cumming what she feels the media did to her, criticize. Ron however has not asked anyone to not look for his child and perhaps if George and Cindy went down there to help search he would not have objected. They however want to stand around for photo ops and sound bites while using every opportunity to get a word in for Casey's defense, not get in the mud and muck with the rest of the searchers. But then they didn't want to get dirty looking for "that little girl" either. Annie Downing said they were clean freaks, cleaning 24/7, maybe like the old saying goes "scrubbing their souls"

Cindy is a mean, bitter, self centered person who has to put other people down to 'feel' big. The fact that she's running around trying to earn a living playing grieving grandma, while openly criticizing and insulting the Father of a missing child, makes her hypocricy as clear as a 200 foot neon sign.

She's have to have a soul to scrub it.

[boo]

Boo...you got this from CA herself? Can you expand on that a little - how did you get so lucky? I cannot believe the gall of these cretins...

Yes, NDY, I did. I have a few emails from her going back awhile and I don't know why she answered them. I think my last email to her finally pushed her over the edge and I never heard back again.

I can expand a little later, but I'm at work now and I hear them deadlines a "whooshing".

Mind blowing, ain't it?

[Dick Tracy]

Cindy has admitted she sent D.Casey out to the exact spot where Caylee's remains were way before Kronk arrived on the scene. If this can be totally documented and the dots connected in such a way to prove Cindy knew for certain where the body was -- then I think it's totally possible to get her on financial fraud charges and they would stick. The way they were out there every single day soliciting funds was so corrupt! IMO.

I think the money angle, more than obstruction (which I guess can be spun away), is the best chance of the family going down.

I think the FBI is going to nail them when the time is right. OK wishful thinking but whatever.

ETA - I love Kronk for saving my sanity. If I heard one more supposed sighting of Caylee out of their crooked mouths I would've gone nuts. Thank you mr. meterman!

Hiya Summer!

Are you saying that Cindy has admitted sending DC out to that exact spot prior to August 11th (when Roy Kronk first came to the crime scene) or prior to when he (KRONK) actually located the body in December?

[*MoonRider*]

New Blink on Crime...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-exclusive-cindy-anthonys-scathing-message-to-tim-miller/

Now that shows Cindy's true colors. imo

[summer]

Hiya Summer!

Are you saying that Cindy has admitted sending DC out to that exact spot prior to August 11th (when Roy Kronk first came to the crime scene) or prior to when he (KRONK) actually located the body in December?

Hi Dick!

I'm nearly positive she told LE she had sent DC out there way prior -- just to take a look-see, ya know. wink wink.

[desmom]

Hiya Desmom :thumbsup:
You are Hero to me for running with an EMS Unit. I have seen their life-saving dedication and keen recall later in many cases and they always amazed me.
There are none to compare with them in what they do at such speed and professionalism. Well done!

The medical help offer here was usual and sound. No problem there.

The sequence of events and actions are not all known yet.
We shall see.

Grins I am no hero. I suffered major burn-out after 3 1/2 years on the job. Too many bad calls, too close together. I have the utmost respect for those that work in the field.

If the video has been sealed, will we ever know the sequence of events.

I really do not care one way or another. From Casey's past behavior, I do not think anyone will be surprised by her behavior in the video. jmo

[Imperfect4]

I don't recall seeing his name on the witness list, do you Imp?

No. Grins was referring to the just-released phone interview he had with LE about Cindy's communication with him. (In the context, I think, of things besides the jail video that should have been suppressed. Hope that makes sense.)

[margaritaville]

It will be very interesting to watch Casey's face when Tony is on the witness stand. She'll be crushed. I bet the pushups she's doing in her jail cell (scuse me, dorm room) are to help her look good for Tony. :sneaky:

What puch ups? She doesn't look like she was doing puch ups...
More like arm curls..You know the kind from the pork rind bag to the mouth......

MOO

[Sun]

kathi.belich@wftv.com :seeya:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18596659/detail.html

Thanks moonrider! I've popped an email off to her, and hopefully she'll get it. Here is a link to Casey's Inmate Visitors' Log up to January 26, 2009.

[True2Blues]

Now that shows Cindy's true colors. imo

She is a truly evil creature.

[imc_e]

Hello all...have lurked and stewed all day about the Anthony's...I feel almost insulted by them and their cavalier attitude about this case...and the way they are trying to cash in on this innocent child...Sometimes it takes biting commentary and strong opinions that sometimes shock people to tell a side of a story that is not readily reported on the news...and that is the voice of all of us...We, the People...I think the posters here are an intelligent, thoughtful and reasoning cross section of America - and I bet my last dime that the Anthony's and the entire defense team regularly read what the public is thinking...An entire year has gone by and the level of emotion of general citizens has, if nothing else, INCREASED. Don't try to pluck our heartstrings any more, you lost us a long time ago...we see what you are doing and we are not stupid!

George and Cindy, other supporters and hangers onners...Do not think for one moment that you are fooling anyone with a television and a single digit IQ...and quit whining about your circumstances - YOU did this to yourselves...you and yours provide the fodder, the gasoline and the match...You sold your souls to the Devil and I pray that every thin dime you collect under the guise of your Scamdation just pays your rent for your continued Hell on this Earth. How many other ways can you find to inflame us?

Your potential jurors

WOW really GREAT post.

I agree with every word..

Thank you! :rose:

[Imperfect4]

ITA. I think what happens is a personal tragedy can bring out the strength of character of a person -- you're put to the ultimate test and most good people rise to the occasion.

It's a small example but I remember how Christopher Reeves' wife took care of him after his accident. Wasn't the life she had envisioned for sure - she married a pretty glamorous and successful man. Also think of Michael J. Fox's wife. She couldn't have counted on what happened either.

And so many crime victims' families have turned their tragedies into something to help others. Really help others. Mark Klass, John Walsh, etc. etc.

Like you said - the Anthonys have always been what we see today. No more, no less. IMO.

ITA. There's no excuse for abominable behavior of this nature for this duration -- not denial (I never bought that one), not grief, not feeling put upon by the media, not parental love. People who lie and deceive do so in good times and in bad. People with integrity have integrity in good times and in bad.

[boo]

Boo - PROMISE me you will fill me in!! Do tell...I'll be here! I'll be quiet now....shhhhhhhhhhhh everyone...

You bet.

Check your pms (not to be confused with PMS) :smile:

[AnniePie]

It will be very interesting to watch Casey's face when Tony is on the witness stand. She'll be crushed. I bet the pushups she's doing in her jail cell (scuse me, dorm room) are to help her look good for Tony. :sneaky:

Everyone she has ever been acquainted with will be on the stand telling the truth (okay... maybe not her parents or her *shiver* :scared: brother) about her lies and deception. I doubt that she will be at all moved. I think she'll sit there with that stoic face and her dead-fish eyes the entire time.

She's not human. The light is on, but nobody's home.

[Imperfect4]

Now that the DP lawyer is head lawyer does that mean she can talk to Casey without Baez being present or does he have to be there?

I think, unless Ms. Lyon chooses to defer to Baez, she's the one calling the shots.

[summer]

heh. Blink just called George another gelatinous spined simp

Good one.

[AMS]

New Blink on Crime...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-exclusive-cindy-anthonys-scathing-message-to-tim-miller/

To be sung to the tune of Follow the yellow brick road...

Follow the Ant money trail...follow the Ant money trail....follow, follow, follow, follow...follow the Ant money trail.....

I do believe it would lead to many answers. :sneaky:


imo

[Imperfect4]

Me too.

Does anyone know if LE interviewed Lee's room mates, what about Mallory, was she interviewed? I don't recall seeing any?

We haven't seen anything from Mallory. Her interview is either an important piece of the puzzle, or useless as a result of her apparent devotion to all things Anthony.

[joolz]

Everyone she has ever been acquainted with will be on the stand telling the truth (okay... maybe not her parents or her *shiver* :scared: brother) about her lies and deception. I doubt that she will be at all moved. I think she'll sit there with that stoic face and her dead-fish eyes the entire time.

She's not human. The light is on, but nobody's home.


Annie, I think she will only "light up" when she bats those dead-fish eyes at her :wub: attorney. :scared:

[Imperfect4]

ITA with your post..

And to add just a bit to it... How ever they are getting the money, JB had to go behind closed doors and tell the judge where the money is coming from and i haven't heard a peep about it..So I am assuming that it is all legal...

It would seem so. Unless Strickland included what he heard in his Bar complaint against Baez.

And I always remember that what's considered legal can still be what many consider immoral, unethical ... despicable.

[boo]

heh. Blink just called George another gelatinous spined simp

Good one.

Hey, if the jello mold fits. :thumbup:

[*MoonRider*]

Bad news. I checked the CMA foundation site yesterday afternoon and the counter was on 202. Now it's at 816. Hopefully people are not donating to their scam. jmo :cursing:

[True2Blues]

Annie, I think she will only "light up" when she bats those dead-fish eyes at her :wub: attorney. :scared:

Or any male who can do something for her. (ICK)

[Imperfect4]

Hello all...have lurked and stewed all day about the Anthony's...I feel almost insulted by them and their cavalier attitude about this case...and the way they are trying to cash in on this innocent child...Sometimes it takes biting commentary and strong opinions that sometimes shock people to tell a side of a story that is not readily reported on the news...and that is the voice of all of us...We, the People...I think the posters here are an intelligent, thoughtful and reasoning cross section of America - and I bet my last dime that the Anthony's and the entire defense team regularly read what the public is thinking...An entire year has gone by and the level of emotion of general citizens has, if nothing else, INCREASED. Don't try to pluck our heartstrings any more, you lost us a long time ago...we see what you are doing and we are not stupid!

George and Cindy, other supporters and hangers onners...Do not think for one moment that you are fooling anyone with a television and a single digit IQ...and quit whining about your circumstances - YOU did this to yourselves...you and yours provide the fodder, the gasoline and the match...You sold your souls to the Devil and I pray that every thin dime you collect under the guise of your Scamdation just pays your rent for your continued Hell on this Earth. How many other ways can you find to inflame us?

Your potential jurors

Love this post! :beer:

[djmsmom]

ITA with your post..

And to add just a bit to it... How ever they are getting the money, JB had to go behind closed doors and tell the judge where the money is coming from and i haven't heard a peep about it..So I am assuming that it is all legal...

Didn't Judge S. file charges with the bar ***. against JB after that meeting? Seems maybe not so ethical.

[True2Blues]

Hey, if the jello mold fits. :thumbup:

:laugh: Good one!

[AMS]

Bad news. I checked the CMA foundation site yesterday afternoon and the counter was on 202. Now it's at 816. Hopefully people are not donating to their scam. jmo :cursing:

I went on yesterday to see if they said anything about the date or vigil. Maybe it was a lot of FLBs checking out the site....

imo

[joolz]

Or any male who can do something for her. (ICK)

I think the field of males like that is going to be slim pickins for her from now on.:laugh:

[joolz]

I went on yesterday to see if they said anything about the date or vigil. Maybe it was a lot of FLBs checking out the site....

imo


Hey! How many time do I have to remind you all that while I might be F&L, I am NOT a Blogger!:biggrin:

[101Spots]

Annie, I think she will only "light up" when she bats those dead-fish eyes at her :wub: attorney. :scared:

Yup. All three watts burning at the same time. Be sure to bring your sunglasses. :rolleyes:

[boo]

Wonder if Casey will be the marrying type once she's been sentenced to her permanent digs. Unfortunately, there are enough whackjobs out there that would marry her, but I do believe she is far too arrogant to ever "settle down" with just one man.

Man, what a dreamworld she lives in.

[Imperfect4]

New Blink on Crime...

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/16/cayleecasey-anthony-case-exclusive-cindy-anthonys-scathing-message-to-tim-miller/

Interesting! Hopefully, Blink's series will have more teeth than the bloggernews series which was supposed to reveal the money trail. Big honkin fizzle on that. (Could be why no one is commenting to their blogs anymore.)

[Imperfect4]

Boo...you got this from CA herself? Can you expand on that a little - how did you get so lucky? I cannot believe the gall of these cretins...

Cindy actually has responded to several people here who have emailed her. :laugh:

[AnniePie]

heh. Blink just called George another gelatinous spined simp

Good one.

Hard to nail that to the wall too. :rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

I think the field of males like that is going to be slim pickins for her from now on.:laugh:

There are always the guards, unfortunately.

[EverMoth]

Wonder if Casey will be the marrying type once she's been sentenced to her permanent digs. Unfortunately, there are enough whackjobs out there that would marry her, but I do believe she is far too arrogant to ever "settle down" with just one man.

Man, what a dreamworld she lives in.


Casey and Scott Peterson would make a lovely couple. :eek:

[djmsmom]

Hello all...have lurked and stewed all day about the Anthony's...I feel almost insulted by them and their cavalier attitude about this case...and the way they are trying to cash in on this innocent child...Sometimes it takes biting commentary and strong opinions that sometimes shock people to tell a side of a story that is not readily reported on the news...and that is the voice of all of us...We, the People...I think the posters here are an intelligent, thoughtful and reasoning cross section of America - and I bet my last dime that the Anthony's and the entire defense team regularly read what the public is thinking...An entire year has gone by and the level of emotion of general citizens has, if nothing else, INCREASED. Don't try to pluck our heartstrings any more, you lost us a long time ago...we see what you are doing and we are not stupid!

George and Cindy, other supporters and hangers onners...Do not think for one moment that you are fooling anyone with a television and a single digit IQ...and quit whining about your circumstances - YOU did this to yourselves...you and yours provide the fodder, the gasoline and the match...You sold your souls to the Devil and I pray that every thin dime you collect under the guise of your Scamdation just pays your rent for your continued Hell on this Earth. How many other ways can you find to inflame us?

Your potential jurors

well said :thumbsup:

[AnniePie]

I heard back from Diane Fanning:

Me: I would like to know if any of the proceeds from this book will go to George and Cindy Anthony's foundation.

Annie



Diane: Absolutely not! Thank you for asking instead of assuming.

Diane

[Imperfect4]

Hi Dick!

I'm nearly positive she told LE she had sent DC out there way prior -- just to take a look-see, ya know. wink wink.

I recall reading that as well. Just can't remember where. :huh: