Tuesday, June 16, 2009

[Dick Tracy]

According to Conway, Casey is gonna take the stand and tell us just what happened. All I can say to that is "look up in the sky, is that a pig flying?"

It will be similar to throwing someone to the lions. IF she takes the stand, the state will take her apart, limb by limb.

Seems fitting.

She's reading up on the law books, trying to figure out just what is required for a TEMPORARY INSANITY DEFENSE. Don't kid yourself. The PRP will attempt to figure out just what makes a person temporarily insane in a court of law. Then she'll run with that.

Right into a brick wall.

[WillowInFlight]

I'm telling you, George and Cindy amaze me.....
IMO, they both should be back on some job..:mad:

Amazing isn't it, that after a year neither one are back to working.

[Unleashed]

Thanks for the link.

Brad doesn't seem to be up so much on the Sunshine law himself. It isn't the prosecution that is releasing all the information. It is THE LAW that the information is made public once the defense gets it--and he surely wants the defense to get information about the case. The way he says it, one would believe that the prosecution is just giving all this info straight to the media.

The A's don't want to have to read or hear about Caylee's remains--well, there is the remote or even the option of getting up and turning the channel or even turning the TV off (I'm pretty sure there isn't anything about Caylee on HGTV or the Food Channel.) They don't HAVE to read anything, or even hear anything. They aren't being held captive in front of a tv or around a radio, or being forced to read the newspapers.

Brad insists that emails to S Kraus were "hacked" into and Cindy didn't send them. "Can you prove it" "We should be able to prove that." Uhhh.....it's been how long, and haven't you all even TRIED to prove it yet? That should have been one of the first things done, if they tho't there was hacking. I dunno, maybe they don't want to spend the time and money it would take, they would rather wait and see if it would be important to the trial? THEN go about proving it????:rolleyes:

It is interesting that Brad says Cindy and George have only each other. WHAT ABOUT LEE? The guy who says it's hard to be the pillar of strength for the family? Hmmmm......


Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO

[Snoopy50]

Amazing isn't it, that after a year neither one are back to working.
Well, George was never big on working in the first place.....:glare:

[Scampi]

and the duct tape was just there as something to hold the sticker? That'll fly.

By the time the trial rolls around, they will have concocted some reason for the duct tape too. I would not be so fast to shoot down the accident theory, it is one that the prosecution cannot readily shoot down with other evidence, imo.

For example, the Zanny defense has the fact that no one else saw Zanny.

The other dude did it defense is negated by everything associated with the crime tracks back to the anthony home.

Especially if casey anthony takes the stand and tells the jury about some accident in a fairly credible and emotional manner. She may just reach some juror who is willing to extend her the benefit of the doubt.

While not believable in my eyes or yours or anyone who has followed this case, I think it is the best defense Lyon has to spare anthonys life.

[joolz]

what do they call them "trial balloons"? he's getting his revised story out there and he and Cindy will tweak it as time goes by, testing to see just what the gullible public will buy. I'm thinking we not gonna buy much of it.


Yup, trial balloons. You float a b.s. theory balloon to see if it will stay afloat where people might becomes interested and convinced. Or if it will get popped and drop into the water. . . where it will be found by the Kidfinders boat as it putters along displaying posters of missing children to anyone who might want to take a break from fishing and go search for the missing.

Good grief, the lies ("mistruths") just never stop, do they? :angry:

[crimeq]

Good morning Imp. :seeya:

Good question. I thought we were staying on one thread a day, for the most part so I just refresh the daily thread page usually. I'm not going to get strung out going from thread to thread unless we agree to.

I'm not even going to those other threads -- did read one of the first ones posted but it seemed contentious by the OP -- didn't recognize the OP anyway :bored:

[kitty1182]

Well, George was never big on working in the first place.....:glare:

LOL, that's true...

[ish]

I'm not sure he said he put Caylee in the car on the 16th. It sounds sort of like he was saying that on that day he never realized he'd never be able to hug her, hear her call him Jo Jo, or put her in the car and say goodbye to her ever again. I'm not sure he actually said he put her in the car on that day. He did say, however, that he fixed her breakfast on that day which is NOT what he's said before.

you may be right on this, George gets all mumbly when he lies so it's can be hard to hear. But if he never realized that would be that last time he do those things, what made him remember exactly what they were wearing? I'll never believe he remembers that, not unless he recalls what they wore on countless other days.

[Amy]

And, IIRC, in a televised interview, George started to say he was watching the news ... Cindy squeezed his leg and he said oh, it was his favorite cooking show that he never missed ... and some local to the area checked to see what show was on the Food Channel at that time. I don't remember what it was, but it was NOT the kind of show that would draw that kind of devotion ... can't remember what it was, though. However, I do remember discussion that it wasn't the kind of show that George would be watching regularly. :confused:

Why would Cindy deflect George from saying he was watching the news at that time? (Was the local news not on at that time? and Cindy thought his statement would be questioned?)

I know I had seen early on, so it must not have been this Greta interview, where Cindy's little squeeze caused George to say "I was watching the ne....my favorite cooking show." Or, a cooking show I always watch, paraphrased. IMO, it sounds like he might have been watching the news the night of the 15th when Casey and Caylee left the house. And, maybe she stormed out, or maybe she decided she was just going to leave after she had time to think about it. And, I wonder how many times in the past has she left the house with or without Caylee late in the evening?

Regardless, I still have my doubts that George Anthony saw either Casey or Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th, just from all that I have read and heard.

[joolz]

Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO


No, you are being too logical. Logic is not a welcome guest in the Anthony camp, imo. :sneaky:

[Daffodil]

Lyon will assert the heart shape sticker was applied as a loving gesture AFTER Caylee died from what ever accident theory they contrive, imo.

As for LE searching LEE's home, I believe he had room mates at that time and by interviewing them ruled out casey anthony and/or Caylee being at that home on 6/15 or 6/16.



I doubt very much that the heart sticker was at hand. Casey (or whoever) had to go find it and put in on. If she can take the time to do that, she could take the time to call 911.


If they are going to go the accidnet route and she was afraid of Cindy's response, then what could be worse than being in jail for the murder of your daughter?

[WillowInFlight]

Well, George was never big on working in the first place.....:glare:

Neither was Casey. :sneaky:

[crimeq]

According to Conway, Casey is gonna take the stand and tell us just what happened. All I can say to that is "look up in the sky, is that a pig flying?"

Unless he has new information that the death-qualified attorney has convinced Baez that the only way to keep the death penalty off the table, is for Casey to confess -- which would be to an "accident" that she was psychologically incapable of telling her parents about.

Not gonna fly. Casey on the stand would be a whole 'nother circus. And they'd have to keep Cindy out of the courtroom to keep the fur from flying.

[kitty1182]

Yup, trial balloons. You float a b.s. theory balloon to see if it will stay afloat where people might becomes interested and convinced. Or if it will get popped and drop into the water. . . where it will be found by the Kidfinders boat as it putters along displaying posters of missing children to anyone who might want to take a break from fishing and go search for the missing.

Good grief, the lies ("mistruths") just never stop, do they? :angry:



They sure don't..I've never seen anyone is my 59 years act the way those two do...

[Snoopy50]

Neither was Casey. :sneaky:
You're right!!! Great role models Casey had.....NOT!:wink:

[crimeq]

Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO

No ma'am, you are right on. Indeed it would remove speculation.

There's something very incriminating in the new notes Dr G. added to the report, after other results came in.

[Amy]

she probably has tapes playing at night while George sleeps so he gets the message subliminally. By next June 16, she'll have revised history once again.

Just once again? Methinks she will revisit every time she gives an interview, based on past performance. IMO

[Imperfect4]

Ok, So LKB says that Casey is innocent. How could tape wrapped around that poor little child's mouth and nose, causing her to suffocate, be an innocent thing to do? Better go back to the drawing board with that.

George and Cindy Anthony are beyond disgusting. They lie with absolutely no shame. I am reading a book about Psychopaths and they and their evil spawn fit the description perfectly. It also says that in treating them, nothing works. After seeing these two morons, I believe it.
As far as Lee, what can I say? "Smack, Smack, CMA, CMA, smack, smack. CMA, CMA. You taught me how to live!!!!" He is an idiot. AQnd when he said that it's tough being a tower of strength, who said he was? He's a big zero.

:lol:

Oh, lawd. I'm still catching up on the thread, and mostly I've been :cursing: reading all the posts about the various performances this morning by Teams Casey and Anthony.

But your post, MyCharlie, has me laughing out loud! :lol:

[SandyO]

I doubt very much that the heart sticker was at hand. Casey (or whoever) had to go find it and put in on. If she can take the time to do that, she could take the time to call 911.


If they are going to go the accidnet route and she was afraid of Cindy's response, then what could be worse than being in jail for the murder of your daughter?

Being in that house with Cindy. Jail's gotta be better.

[crimeq]

I know I had seen early on, so it must not have been this Greta interview, where Cindy's little squeeze caused George to say "I was watching the ne....my favorite cooking show." Or, a cooking show I always watch, paraphrased. IMO, it sounds like he might have been watching the news the night of the 15th when Casey and Caylee left the house. And, maybe she stormed out, or maybe she decided she was just going to leave after she had time to think about it. And, I wonder how many times in the past has she left the house with or without Caylee late in the evening?

Regardless, I still have my doubts that George Anthony saw either Casey or Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th, just from all that I have read and heard.

Interesting take on it, Amy, and it makes a lot of sense. George was watching the news the night before when Casey stormed out, and Cindy found it necessary to change every "fact" of that night to something else, to disguise what happened. Silly maneuver, because he could have been watching the news at any time, on any of the cable channels. For whatever reason, it was VERY important to Cindy's coverup that every little fact that really happened, be disguised as something else.

[Amy]

When you tell the truth, there is no need to remember what you said. the anthony's are strangers to the truth, sanity, decency, etc etc. IMO.:cursing:

Exactly what my Momma used to say--if you tell the truth every time, you don't have to try to remember what lie you told to whom.

[kOOkie1]

No matter how much a person LIES.....the truth ALWAYS has a way of coming out.....The more they talk....the LESS they are able to suppress the actual truth.

Yup..just like in that Greta interview..Cindy says (when talking about Caylee being "close") "close" meaning in the Orlando area..or close meaning "in the neighborhood" or close as in close to comming home"..the only one of those those 3 Cindy mentions Casey didnt mean literally was the "in the neighborhhood"...Isnt it funny how that was exactly where Caylee was at??!!!yup.. the truth always comes out.

[joolz]

No ma'am, you are right on. Indeed it would remove speculation.

There's something very incriminating in the new notes Dr G. added to the report, after other results came in.

I'm sure this has been addressed before, but I've been MIA for awhile, so can someone please explain how certain things are revealed under the Sunshine Laws and others aren't? Or - if there are new notes - is this release just being held up because of the Anthony appeal to not make the autopsy public?

Thank you, signed Confused in the Desert.:confused:

[Snoopy50]

:lol:

Oh, lawd. I'm still catching up on the thread, and mostly I've been :cursing: reading all the posts about the various performances this morning by Teams Casey and Anthony.

But your post, MyCharlie, has me laughing out loud! :lol:
Every time I remember that scene at the memorial I want to throw up. Add to that his constant and inappropriate laughter, and I want to strangle him. Gosh those Anthony offsprings are pathetic excuses for humans. What could one expect though?

[AlohaRainbow]

Wise move Nana. The embelishments they added today are simply amazing. Apparently Georges memories get clearer with time and Cindy single handedly drew national attention to the Haleigh Cummings case. Oh yeah, and toss a few bucks in the donations box.

JMO
just waking up and grabbing a cup of coffee... and starting to read about george and cindy's antics.

bad enough that they're soliciting donations... but hopefully, george didn't solicit letters and cards to be sent to casey... did he? :w00t:


[back to reading and catching up]

[ish]

By the time the trial rolls around, they will have concocted some reason for the duct tape too. I would not be so fast to shoot down the accident theory, it is one that the prosecution cannot readily shoot down with other evidence, imo.

For example, the Zanny defense has the fact that no one else saw Zanny.

The other dude did it defense is negated by everything associated with the crime tracks back to the anthony home.

Especially if casey anthony takes the stand and tells the jury about some accident in a fairly credible and emotional manner. She may just reach some juror who is willing to extend her the benefit of the doubt.

While not believable in my eyes or yours or anyone who has followed this case, I think it is the best defense Lyon has to spare anthonys life.

well Casey has got to go along with that defense and so far, she says she had nothing to do with it and Baez, LKB and AL have all said she is "innocent" too. How the defense puts forward it's case will be interesting. Will Casey allow a "if she did it, it was an accident" defense
or a SODDI only defense. I guess time will tell.

[crimeq]

Back later, friends :seeya: Have to go get my hair cut.

[Amy]

I'm telling you, George and Cindy amaze me.....
IMO, they both should be back on some job..:mad:

Ah, but they ARE on their "current" job--even tho the networks "don't pay for interviews." They are getting paid somehow for all their interviewing, IMO. If nothing else, they get a free trip out of town to wherever the show is broadcasting from. You know, kind of like an all-expense paid vacation--all they have to do is give the interviewee the script they will allow, spend a few minutes on the interview, and they have a day or so to do what they want in that city. Plus, you know, everytime they go in front of the cameras, Cindy gets her hair done for free, and a makeup job. IMO

[AnniePie]

I think it is very possible that casey anthony will take the stand. Especially if Lyon has decided to go with the accidental death defense. casey anthony will spin a tale and Lyon will provide a psychiatric expert to explain how the defendant's emotional shock and the family dysfunction led to casey hiding Caylee's death.

They are desperate imo, the Zanny the Nanny and SODDI defense are not viable, imo. Accidental death is all that is left.

Mornin' all! :seeya:

Of course the Zanny defense isn't going to work for them, but how can they just change courses after all the lies about her have been told? I just don't get it.

Does Casey just say, "Oh, forget that story. I just made it up." and then go on to something else? How can you tell all those lies to LE and then just tell a completely different story?

[Scampi]

If they are indeed going with the accident theory then there is no way I believe the Anthonys attorney that "they don't know what happened" Cindy has been saying all along that we would all understand when this goes to trial.

I still think that child was killed in the home the night of the 15th.

I think she was also Willow, but Lyon has a year or more to concoct a workable defense around the accident nonsense, using whatever evidence LE has developed.

I also think the fact that casey is not seeing cindy, george and lee will be useful in the accident defense.

Remember, they will have a psychiatric ($$$) expert ready and willing to roll to the stand to explain it all to the jury and attempt to make it "reasonable."

[Amy]

Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO

You're being logical and you KNOW logic has no place in this case!!!! Don't use your common sense, the A's want to keep us confused and in the dark.

[ish]

Yup..just like in that Greta interview..Cindy says (when talking about Caylee being "close") "close" meaning in the Orlando area..or close meaning "in the neighborhood" or close as in close to comming home"..the only one of those those 3 Cindy mentions Casey didnt mean literally was the "in the neighborhhood"...Isnt it funny how that was exactly where Caylee was at??!!!yup.. the truth always comes out.

amazing how Cindy was able to interperet "Casey speak", although incorrectly, in this instance. but is at a loss with regard to some of Casey's other remarks.

[kitty1182]

Ah, but they ARE on their "current" job--even tho the networks "don't pay for interviews." They are getting paid somehow for all their interviewing, IMO. If nothing else, they get a free trip out of town to wherever the show is broadcasting from. You know, kind of like an all-expense paid vacation--all they have to do is give the interviewee the script they will allow, spend a few minutes on the interview, and they have a day or so to do what they want in that city. Plus, you know, everytime they go in front of the cameras, Cindy gets her hair done for free, and a makeup job. IMO

Yeah, probally a nice Limo ride too..:rolleyes:

[Amy]

Well, George was never big on working in the first place.....:glare:

Thanks!!! Now I have to spend time cleaning the monitor and keyboard!!! That is a good one, and so true!!!! IMO

[*MoonRider*]

Ah, but they ARE on their "current" job--even tho the networks "don't pay for interviews." They are getting paid somehow for all their interviewing, IMO. If nothing else, they get a free trip out of town to wherever the show is broadcasting from. You know, kind of like an all-expense paid vacation--all they have to do is give the interviewee the script they will allow, spend a few minutes on the interview, and they have a day or so to do what they want in that city. Plus, you know, everytime they go in front of the cameras, Cindy gets her hair done for free, and a makeup job. IMO

Hair and makeup cannot mask the evil within. imo

[Tornado]

No ma'am, you are right on. Indeed it would remove speculation.

There's something very incriminating in the new notes Dr G. added to the report, after other results came in.

ITA- I just think back to the little smirk on Dr. G's face the day she read the confirmation that it was Caylee and it COD was murder. I wonder if the autopsy does not reveal some sort of prior abuse that did not cause Caylees death. History of truama or broken bones.

[Scampi]

Mornin' all! :seeya:

Of course the Zanny defense isn't going to work for them, but how can they just change courses after all the lies about her have been told? I just don't get it.

Does Casey just say, "Oh, forget that story. I just made it up." and then go on to something else? How can you tell all those lies to LE and then just tell a completely different story?


This is where cindy, lee and george get thrown under the bus, imo. Their psychiatric expert will explain the emotional breakdown poor casey sustained, that made her cover up the accidental death of Caylee, due to the trauma she sustained during her childhood from her parents.

Remember casey's claims of abuse from lee and george, I can see them using this as part of it.

[AnniePie]

Good morning all

I didn't watch the Early Show. I was outside with the dogs. Glad I missed because I have a feeling I would be shopping for a new TV.
What can I say about George and Cindy? I am now convinced they have become so evil they even make satan nervous.

Moving along....Early May, I planted lavender bellflowers in Caylee's memory. We had such lousy weather (cold and rain) the plants were not growing. Within the past week they shot up like weeds and look what started blooming yesterday Bellflowers (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/DSCN0217.jpg)

:rose:for Caylee

Ellegna, what a lovely thing to do for Caylee. :wub: I'm going to go to the greenhouse today and buy a perenniel in Caylee's honour as well.

(I just won't tell my fam, as they believe I've gone over the deep end with this case.)

[Amy]

Unless he has new information that the death-qualified attorney has convinced Baez that the only way to keep the death penalty off the table, is for Casey to confess -- which would be to an "accident" that she was psychologically incapable of telling her parents about.

Not gonna fly. Casey on the stand would be a whole 'nother circus. And they'd have to keep Cindy out of the courtroom to keep the fur from flying.

OTOH, it might be quite revealing for Casey to be on the stand, and she and Cindy arguing about what happened when.....maybe the truth of the matter might come out in that scenario???? Or, at least SOME truths of the matter. Would be interesting to see, that's for sure.

[ish]

Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO

you nailed it, right now we all speculate, once it's released, no need for speculation, it's in black and white, cold hard facts. we'll get the details on the tape and the sticker. No need to speculate that it was or wasn't wrapped around the face/mouth or if indeed there was an outline of a heart shaped sticker. Those questions will be answered.

[Imperfect4]

Good morning Imp. :seeya:

Good question. I thought we were staying on one thread a day, for the most part so I just refresh the daily thread page usually. I'm not going to get strung out going from thread to thread unless we agree to.

Howdy, girlfriend.

(And good morning to Unleashed, also. :smile:)

The indie threads are getting out of control. I see 11 "single subject" threads right now on the main Caylee forum page, in addition to the dailies and the links threads.

Ridiculous. We took a vote way back when we'd have only the daily threads, with a rare exception single subject thread.

Why do people feel the need to single themselves/their favorite subject out?

Makes me cranky. :mad:

[Myka]

George said, "The last time I saw her was June 16, one year ago today. I woke up with her in the morning at 7:30, got a chance to have breakfast with her. Just before 1:00 that day, I didn't ever realize that that'd be the last time I would see her, have a chance to kiss her, hold her. I would hear her call me Jo-Jo, and put her in a car and wave good-bye to her."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel


Hmmmmmmmmmm, I don't remember all that? :sneaky:

I want to know what happened after they had breakfast? And did he see Casey at all before 1:00pm?

[Unleashed]

No ma'am, you are right on. Indeed it would remove speculation.

There's something very incriminating in the new notes Dr G. added to the report, after other results came in.

So then Brad's just not too bright and hasn't figured that little detail out?
Guess us FLBs are good for something! :sneaky:


JMO

[ish]

OTOH, it might be quite revealing for Casey to be on the stand, and she and Cindy arguing about what happened when.....maybe the truth of the matter might come out in that scenario???? Or, at least SOME truths of the matter. Would be interesting to see, that's for sure.

OMG can you imagine, CIndy in the courtroom while Casey is on the stand, raising her hand to ask if she can ask a question, or to say to Casey " Sweetheart, let me see your eyes. you know I need to see your eyes, let me look at them" or asking the prosecutor "while she's up there under oath would you ask her if she took the 50 dollar bill I had stashed in the desk drawer"

[Amy]

Mornin' all! :seeya:

Of course the Zanny defense isn't going to work for them, but how can they just change courses after all the lies about her have been told? I just don't get it.

Does Casey just say, "Oh, forget that story. I just made it up." and then go on to something else? How can you tell all those lies to LE and then just tell a completely different story?

She managed to do that when she changed from the nanny leaving the Sawgrass apartment, taking a kidnapped Caylee and Casey being nowhere in sight when this occured, to the one where Casey was present and nanny and sister Sam kidnapped Caylee after knocking Casey down.

[Unleashed]

You're being logical and you KNOW logic has no place in this case!!!! Don't use your common sense, the A's want to keep us confused and in the dark.

:punch: to me. I vewwwyyy sorry.


JMO

[5boxersmom]

Is there a hearing this week about the autopsy?

[ish]

George said, "The last time I saw her was June 16, one year ago today. I woke up with her in the morning at 7:30, got a chance to have breakfast with her. Just before 1:00 that day, I didn't ever realize that that'd be the last time I would see her, have a chance to kiss her, hold her. I would hear her call me Jo-Jo, and put her in a car and wave good-bye to her."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel


Hmmmmmmmmmm, I don't remember all that? :sneaky:

it's hard to tell if he is saying he actually did those things that day or if he now realizes it would have been the last time he could have done those things, but didn't actually do them.

[Imperfect4]

By the time the trial rolls around, they will have concocted some reason for the duct tape too. I would not be so fast to shoot down the accident theory, it is one that the prosecution cannot readily shoot down with other evidence, imo.

For example, the Zanny defense has the fact that no one else saw Zanny.

The other dude did it defense is negated by everything associated with the crime tracks back to the anthony home.

Especially if casey anthony takes the stand and tells the jury about some accident in a fairly credible and emotional manner. She may just reach some juror who is willing to extend her the benefit of the doubt.

While not believable in my eyes or yours or anyone who has followed this case, I think it is the best defense Lyon has to spare anthonys life.

I agree. An accident, followed by some fugue state brought on by her screamingly dysfunctional upbringing, to explain her footloose, fancy-free attitude and behavior for the following month.

It's all they've got. imo

What I hope the state has, is evidence we have no idea about, to back up their request for the DP.

[Lavinia]

I'm not even going to those other threads -- did read one of the first ones posted but it seemed contentious by the OP -- didn't recognize the OP anyway :bored:

That would be the one, crimeq. :rolleyes: Dumping over on OC, too.

[KittyMom]

I know I had seen early on, so it must not have been this Greta interview, where Cindy's little squeeze caused George to say "I was watching the ne....my favorite cooking show." Or, a cooking show I always watch, paraphrased. IMO, it sounds like he might have been watching the news the night of the 15th when Casey and Caylee left the house. And, maybe she stormed out, or maybe she decided she was just going to leave after she had time to think about it. And, I wonder how many times in the past has she left the house with or without Caylee late in the evening?

Regardless, I still have my doubts that George Anthony saw either Casey or Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th, just from all that I have read and heard.

MAybe the fight the night before was also over new clothes that Casey bought for her and Caylee. That would be the only way I could see either he or Cindy remember what they wore...'cause they were so po'd over Casey stealing again and using it to buy clothes.

[Amy]

it's hard to tell if he is saying he actually did those things that day or if he now realizes it would have been the last time he could have done those things, but didn't actually do them.

And he says "got a chance to eat breakfast" with her. Well, now, haven't they said George is the one who got her up and fixed her breakfast on a routine basis? "Got a chance" sounds like, it doesn't happen that often. But, I still don't believe him, because it took him nearly a year to bring that up. IMO

[AnniePie]

I thought George looked a bit scared, telling that whopper. I'm not sure it was cause he was thinking if he got it wrong Cindy would give him the
"squeeze" or if he thought he might be pushing it with the "man upstairs" and he might be struck dead by lightning.

George is not a good liar. His body language completely negates anything that comes out of his mouth. If I were any of the Anthonys I would be afraid of lightning bolts at any time regardless of the weather.

The only thing that gets me through this is that I believe justice will be done by the end of this trial. The Anthonys will reap what they have sown.

[ish]

She managed to do that when she changed from the nanny leaving the Sawgrass apartment, taking a kidnapped Caylee and Casey being nowhere in sight when this occured, to the one where Casey was present and nanny and sister Sam kidnapped Caylee after knocking Casey down.

but she has never floated this story past LE, they and the public have only heard it second or third hand.

[Imperfect4]

Being in that house with Cindy. Jail's gotta be better.

You know it.

[AnniePie]

Concerning George, his mustache is the only thing he can grow back, those other two things are gone for good.:thumbsup:

I think they were cremated and are now in Cindy's locket.

[AnniePie]

It is quite likely that Caylee was killed right there in the Anthony home. Casey would have no need at all to pack a bag for her. Just wrap up Caylee's lifeless body in the WTP blanket and then place her in trash bags and hide her. Later use the laundry bag to make it easier to carry her ...and eventually dump her just inside the edge of the woods on Suburban drive.

Am I the only one who listened to that radio show last night? The young guy who started a Facebook group in Caylee's honour (Scotti) was interviewing a woman and I have no idea who she was. She was convinced that Casey had put Caylee's body into the Anthony deep freeze for a time until she figured out what to do with it.

Richard Grund was on there too.

[Imperfect4]

Interesting take on it, Amy, and it makes a lot of sense. George was watching the news the night before when Casey stormed out, and Cindy found it necessary to change every "fact" of that night to something else, to disguise what happened. Silly maneuver, because he could have been watching the news at any time, on any of the cable channels. For whatever reason, it was VERY important to Cindy's coverup that every little fact that really happened, be disguised as something else.

That's because she's just not bright. Thinks she is. Isn't.

So she takes lies, which are already near impossible to keep track of, and adds lies to the lies ... because she thinks she's that smart. She actually thinks the more layered the lie, the more believable. Completely misses the part where it's impossible to remember all the complex details of something that never happened.

Which is in part how they keep tripping themselves up.

Arrogance and low intelligence: a deadly combination.

[ish]

George is not a good liar. His body language completely negates anything that comes out of his mouth. If I were any of the Anthonys I would be afraid of lightning bolts at any time regardless of the weather.

The only thing that gets me through this is that I believe justice will be done by the end of this trial. The Anthonys will reap what they have sown.

I'm not much of a believer in religion, but I think I might get a tad nervous telling so many lies about something so serious as the death of a child. If a door slammed or a book fell loudly on the floor whilst i was in the midst of another tall tale, I just might soil myself. I hope George is wearing his Depends during these interviews.

[bluwaters]

Caylee Anthony: How the grandparents, the lawyers and television have kept it a case that grips the nation
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/caylee-anthony-how-the-grandparents-the-lawyers-and-the-media-have-kept-it-a-case-that-gripped-the-n.html

Hi everyone.
I am just stunned, having watched the tape of the C&G show on CBS' "Early Show."
There is nothing that I can say to add to the outrage that many of you have posted here today except. "Wow" :sad:

I always claim that these 2 are no longer able to shock or surprise me.
It's not true though.
They shock and disgust me every time they open their mouths.

Grieving grandparents do not go on a media blitz to mark the anniversary of their grandchild's death.

Grieving grandparents do not criticize other families with a missing child.

Grieving grandparents do not solicit donations for a foundation they have formed, before justice has been served for the death of the very child they did not protect.

Grieving grandparents do not lie about the circumstances under which their murdered grandchild was lost.

I should think that grieving grandparents would want truth and justice for the child they have lost.

Wow, just wow...:crying:

For Caylee :rose:

[Scampi]

I agree. An accident, followed by some fugue state brought on by her screamingly dysfunctional upbringing, to explain her footloose, fancy-free attitude and behavior for the following month.

It's all they've got. imo

What I hope the state has, is evidence we have no idea about, to back up their request for the DP.

Yep, I like your term "fugue state" and I think baez has tipped us off by his "ugly coping" statements.

It is truly all they have, because the other two defenses will not fly, imo. Not that this one will, but it's something they can build on at any rate.

I too hope the Prosecution has something that definitively rules out an "accidental death."

This trial is going to be a doozy!

[Imperfect4]

I'm sure this has been addressed before, but I've been MIA for awhile, so can someone please explain how certain things are revealed under the Sunshine Laws and others aren't? Or - if there are new notes - is this release just being held up because of the Anthony appeal to not make the autopsy public?

Thank you, signed Confused in the Desert.:confused:

You're asking the $64,000 question, joolz. We seem to have no answer to it.

Signed, Also Confused and Also in the Desert :blink:

[KittyMom]

I think they were cremated and are now in Cindy's locket.

Oh, no...Cindy keeps them in a special box.

[Imperfect4]

Every time I remember that scene at the memorial I want to throw up. Add to that his constant and inappropriate laughter, and I want to strangle him. Gosh those Anthony offsprings are pathetic excuses for humans. What could one expect though?

Exactly. Look at the trees they dropped from. :rolleyes:

[KittyMom]

O/T http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=9f63a931c23be05aef20&utm_source=newsletter0616&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weeklytopvideos

Caylee should be playing with puppies like these. :crying:

[bluwaters]

According to Conway, Casey is gonna take the stand and tell us just what happened. All I can say to that is "look up in the sky, is that a pig flying?"
I wonder what Casey's lawyers think about this?
I wonder if they are surprised that Conway is talking about how the defense should proceed?
What is Conway's angle in making such a statement?
I don't get it...:confused:

[Imperfect4]

I think she was also Willow, but Lyon has a year or more to concoct a workable defense around the accident nonsense, using whatever evidence LE has developed.

I also think the fact that casey is not seeing cindy, george and lee will be useful in the accident defense.

Remember, they will have a psychiatric ($$$) expert ready and willing to roll to the stand to explain it all to the jury and attempt to make it "reasonable."

My bold ...

And let's not forget Tooooodddd, the accident reconstruction expert.

[ish]

She managed to do that when she changed from the nanny leaving the Sawgrass apartment, taking a kidnapped Caylee and Casey being nowhere in sight when this occured, to the one where Casey was present and nanny and sister Sam kidnapped Caylee after knocking Casey down.

I can see Casey talking to the jury as she tells her tale, she'll ask "how am I doing?" "oh not so good, well okay, let's try this one on for size"

[Citygirl]

Howdy, girlfriend.

(And good morning to Unleashed, also. :smile:)

The indie threads are getting out of control. I see 11 "single subject" threads right now on the main Caylee forum page, in addition to the dailies and the links threads.

Ridiculous. We took a vote way back when we'd have only the daily threads, with a rare exception single subject thread.

Why do people feel the need to single themselves/their favorite subject out?

Makes me cranky. :mad:


I guess they are like the A's..they love seein their name and the attention they perceive they are getting..

[kitty1182]

This is where cindy, lee and george get thrown under the bus, imo. Their psychiatric expert will explain the emotional breakdown poor casey sustained, that made her cover up the accidental death of Caylee, due to the trauma she sustained during her childhood from her parents.

Remember casey's claims of abuse from lee and george, I can see them using this as part of it.

I agree Sis..Remember when Casey told someone about what Lee did to her? Bet that will come out in court...

[sammy62]

Ah, but they ARE on their "current" job--even tho the networks "don't pay for interviews." They are getting paid somehow for all their interviewing, IMO. If nothing else, they get a free trip out of town to wherever the show is broadcasting from. You know, kind of like an all-expense paid vacation--all they have to do is give the interviewee the script they will allow, spend a few minutes on the interview, and they have a day or so to do what they want in that city. Plus, you know, everytime they go in front of the cameras, Cindy gets her hair done for free, and a makeup job. IMO

I remember when Sandra Cantu's mother was being interviewed. Her grief was so REAL, she couldn't talk. Her sister (I believe) had to answer. We have never ever seen that kind of mourning for poor little Caylee. :cursing:

[kitty1182]

I guess they are like the A's..they love seein their name and the attention they perceive they are getting..



One thing for sure, the A's love it..lol


(:wub:) to ya!

[FallenAngel♥]

Is there a hearing this week about the autopsy?

i've been wondering the same thing.

[AnniePie]

Good morning Imp. :seeya:

Good question. I thought we were staying on one thread a day, for the most part so I just refresh the daily thread page usually. I'm not going to get strung out going from thread to thread unless we agree to.

Me too. That's one reason I liked this board (as opposed to another one which I won't mention :rolleyes:). I like that we're all on the same page and not skipping all over the place.

[Imperfect4]

Is there a hearing this week about the autopsy?

Nothing scheduled yet. It may not go to a hearing. (Fingers crossed.)

RELEASE THE AUTOPSY REPORT!

[Mandymax]

If their "mission" is to bring awareness to missing children (whatever that means in Anthonyspeak), I wonder why they need the boat. Are they planning to just drift along the banks of rivers holding up posters as they go? :sneaky:

I know this topic isn't funny, but I got a visual on that and just about lost it.

[ish]

I want to know what happened after they had breakfast? And did he see Casey at all before 1:00pm?

Cindy's working on that, all will be revealed on their next TV appearance, I'd say July 15-16 or Caylee's 4th birthday.

You have to take things slow with George..one step at a time.

[Citygirl]

One thing for sure, the A's love it..lol


(:wub:) to ya!


Hey sweetness..bunches of love back atcha..
oh yes the A's are on the ride of their lives..you know Cindy loves bein the center of attention now that her attention seekin daughter is out of the picture..she gets all her warm fuzzies every time she is mentioned on national TV..even if it's negative.

[AnniePie]

She managed to do that when she changed from the nanny leaving the Sawgrass apartment, taking a kidnapped Caylee and Casey being nowhere in sight when this occured, to the one where Casey was present and nanny and sister Sam kidnapped Caylee after knocking Casey down.

I know! These are truly NOT rational people.

After telling all these lies, I would be ashamed to be an Anthony and I wouldn't ever again show my face in public. Not them though. :blink:

[summer]

Yep, I like your term "fugue state" and I think baez has tipped us off by his "ugly coping" statements.

It is truly all they have, because the other two defenses will not fly, imo. Not that this one will, but it's something they can build on at any rate.

I too hope the Prosecution has something that definitively rules out an "accidental death."

This trial is going to be a doozy!

I think the only prayer the defense has of keeping the nanny story out of it is if they somehow get the perp's "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales" statement to LE tossed out on some kind of technicality. I wouldn't put it past them to try!

As far as a fugue state defense - I'd like to understand how one can be in fugue and come up with something concrete like Zenaida Fernandez HYPHEN Gonzales.

Oh, and this family makes me sick.

[ish]

I know this topic isn't funny, but I got a visual on that and just about lost it.

they could just as easily go "tubing" down the river holding their signs, but it wouldn't have the same cache.

[Imperfect4]

Cindy's working on that, all will be revealed on their next TV appearance, I'd say July 15-16 or Caylee's 4th birthday.

You have to take things slow with George..one step at a time.

When I read desmom's a-year-ago recap at the start of this thread, I was struck by how completely scripted and rehearsed George's little story of the 16th was (his original story -- the one where he sees them for the first time right before 1pm).

Lying liars. I hope when the state presents their timeline at trial for when Caylee was murdered, it shoots Georgie's big fat lie about the 16th right out of the water.

It probably won't ... but I can hope. :angry:

[BobbysGirl]

Slain Tot's Kin: Missing Girl's Dad Wrong

The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel

Hope Ron Cummings is speaking to his lawyer as I type

Grrrrrrrrrrr, Been at Dr's since 8 this morn.
Picked this thread and the nerve of the A"s.
They refused all help from Tim, blast the media and public and they act like this.
Who do they think they are. Hypocrits IMO.

I hope Ron does speak to his lawyer. Going to read more.

BG

[summer]

This would be such a perfect time for Mitnick and Morgan to get the Anthonys back under oath. I hope they schedule something soon. Real soon. Since all the new lies are freshly minted.

[happy2bme]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."

[summer]

Me too. That's one reason I liked this board (as opposed to another one which I won't mention :rolleyes:). I like that we're all on the same page and not skipping all over the place.

Ditto AnniePie. :biggrin:

[AlohaRainbow]

OTOH, it might be quite revealing for Casey to be on the stand, and she and Cindy arguing about what happened when.....maybe the truth of the matter might come out in that scenario???? Or, at least SOME truths of the matter. Would be interesting to see, that's for sure.

i can see it now... casey on the stand and cindy in the gallery, raising her hand and standing up "your honor... can i say something"...

and when george is on the stand, cindy raising her hand, asking to speak..."your honor, i need to correct something that george said.... he wasn't watching the news, he was watching his favorite cooking show"..

[well, i lied...:sneaky: i really can't see casey taking the stand to testify. ]

[happygert]

Ah, but they ARE on their "current" job--even tho the networks "don't pay for interviews." They are getting paid somehow for all their interviewing, IMO. If nothing else, they get a free trip out of town to wherever the show is broadcasting from. You know, kind of like an all-expense paid vacation--all they have to do is give the interviewee the script they will allow, spend a few minutes on the interview, and they have a day or so to do what they want in that city. Plus, you know, everytime they go in front of the cameras, Cindy gets her hair done for free, and a makeup job. IMO

Oh trust me they are getting paid... Do you know anyone who can pay there bills and not worked one day in a YEAR? At casey's bond hearing they were behind in some of there bills and thats when both cindy and george was working.. Now they have added a few more expensive bills such as, clothes for the TV circuit, P.I'S, Attorneys, GUM, all that bottled water, ETC.. The TV interviews and Things that belonged to Caylee is paying off very well.. They dont call it being paid for the interview they call it "licenseing fee's".. c&g are not giving anything away it all comes with a price.. the price is blood money from their dead granddaughter.. and bc imo is as low as the A's are.. imo hope he's got some good money saved after this case I'd wouldn't hire him. IMO hoping the general public where his firm is feels the same..You are only as good as the company you keep.. IMO

[bluwaters]

Nothing scheduled yet. It may not go to a hearing. (Fingers crossed.)

RELEASE THE AUTOPSY REPORT!

No, latest from the Orange Clerk of the Court
(http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Default.aspx?SessionID=b41ea264-947f-44ce-b519-7367b25da6d1) is from yesterday:
6/15/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE OF AUTOPSY REPORT

I don't get it.
Is this a new motion to restrict disclosure?
Have C&G amended their motion, or has Baez now filed a motion as well?
Since Judge Strickland has already issued a temporary order to restrict disclosure, why has another motion been filed? :confused:

[Imperfect4]

I think the only prayer the defense has of keeping the nanny story out of it is if they somehow get the perp's "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales" statement to LE tossed out on some kind of technicality. I wouldn't put it past them to try!

As far as a fugue state defense - I'd like to understand how one can be in fugue and come up with something concrete like Zenaida Fernandez HYPHEN Gonzales.

Oh, and this family makes me sick.

My bold ...

That's the beauty of the complexity of the human mind, especially a scrambled one. Any garden variety defen$e-paid p$ychiatri$t can make a case for what might've been happening in the OC's wee mind that caused her to act so completely inappropriately after her child's "accident."

We really don't know much about how the mind works. That could easily work to the defense's advantage, imo.

(Whether the jury is buying what the $hrink is selling is another story.)

[5boxersmom]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."



Oh my. Think about how Cindy treated Tim Miller. :rolleyes:

[Imperfect4]

No, latest from the Orange Clerk of the Court
(http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Default.aspx?SessionID=b41ea264-947f-44ce-b519-7367b25da6d1) is from yesterday:
6/15/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE OF AUTOPSY REPORT

I don't get it.
Is this a new motion to restrict disclosure?
Have C&G amended their motion, or has Baez now filed a motion as well?
Since Judge Strickland has already issued a temporary order to restrict disclosure, why has another motion been filed? :confused:

Are you sure it's a second motion? Was one filed on Thursday or Friday? (Please don't make me look at that link, lol.)

[ish]

I know! These are truly NOT rational people.

After telling all these lies, I would be ashamed to be an Anthony and I wouldn't ever again show my face in public. Not them though. :blink:

It's our fault Annie, we didn't take the time to read the clues in what Casey was telling LE. If we had we would have known that dropping Caylee at Apt 210 in Sawgrass really meant meeting Zenaida at Jay Blanchard Park, and the phone call she got that morning from Caylee talking about her shoes and her book was code for Zenaida and her sisters took Caylee away to punish Casey, but they are gonna bring her back by her third bday. All very simple we just needed the Casey Anthony decoder pin.

[Jester]

This making breakfast for her at 7:30am on the 16th has to be a load of crap. The Anthony's have started the LIE machine up again. they are setting themselves past the 15th fight, so if it comes out in trial that they went at in a fight on the 15th, they'll refuse to take ownership. It's called deflection, and they are trying to cover their tracks.

Won't work.

Casey will NEVER take the stand either. The prosecution will eat her alive.

The problem I see with George claiming he made breakfast for Caylee is that he then says he didn't see Caylee and Casey until they got up much later. Is he suggesting Caylee had breakfast and then decided to go back to bed?

There's a hole in his story. If he made breakfast for Caylee, then he should also say that he looked after her all morning until Casey dragged herself out of bed. A 2 year old does not have breakfast and go back to bed.

[PROPROS]

I know! These are truly NOT rational people.

After telling all these lies, I would be ashamed to be an Anthony and I wouldn't ever again show my face in public. Not them though. :blink:Good morning everyone...I knew I shouldn't have done it....I just watched C&G (on video) doing the Early Show...What a nerve she has saying that "she" was responsible for getting the national media involved in the Haleigh Cummings case...As for George staying in the backround, I remember him being front and center...Also, it might have been nice for The Anthonys to join the community tonight for Caylee's vigil....Bless you Caylee RIP..:rose:

[bluwaters]

Cindy's working on that, all will be revealed on their next TV appearance, I'd say July 15-16 or Caylee's 4th birthday.

You have to take things slow with George..one step at a time.

ish
You are on a roll today! :laugh:
Thank you.
We need some comic relief around here.
I appreciated your humor so much.
You are always respectful of Caylee, while going straight to the absurdity of the side show!
My heart is so very heavy today...

[AlohaRainbow]

OMG can you imagine, CIndy in the courtroom while Casey is on the stand, raising her hand to ask if she can ask a question, or to say to Casey " Sweetheart, let me see your eyes. you know I need to see your eyes, let me look at them" or asking the prosecutor "while she's up there under oath would you ask her if she took the 50 dollar bill I had stashed in the desk drawer"

LOL! i just posted something similar about cindy raising her hand to speak while casey is on the stand!

[summer]

My bold ...

That's the beauty of the complexity of the human mind, especially a scrambled one. Any garden variety defen$e-paid p$ychiatri$t can make a case for what might've been happening in the OC's wee mind that caused her to act so completely inappropriately after her child's "accident."

We really don't know much about how the mind works. That could easily work to the defense's advantage, imo.

(Whether the jury is buying what the $hrink is selling is another story.)

Yes you're right. Another day, another shrink. I guess the "too much detail" could be as useful as anything else in a psychological profile. Geez.

[BlueHeron]

Well, all I can say after this latest performance: It's not much of a stretch to see how these two raised a murderer.

[happy2bme]

Don't you just know that CA's mother probably cringes everytime she sees her on TV? :ohmy:

[PROPROS]

When I read desmom's a-year-ago recap at the start of this thread, I was struck by how completely scripted and rehearsed George's little story of the 16th was (his original story -- the one where he sees them for the first time right before 1pm).

Lying liars. I hope when the state presents their timeline at trial for when Caylee was murdered, it shoots Georgie's big fat lie about the 16th right out of the water.

It probably won't ... but I can hope. :angry:You are right on target with that...Just what I was thinking...Keep up that story..He no more saw Caylee the morning of the 16th than the man in the moon...Casey and Caylee were long gone by the morning..mo

[summer]

The Anthonys will never stop until they're forced to stop. Even if Casey gets the needle they won't stop. IMO they'll find a way to spin any circumstance to fit their addiction to money and attention. They need to be charged, totally shamed and put away for a long time.

Please oh please let it be so.

[ish]

i can see it now... casey on the stand and cindy in the gallery, raising her hand and standing up "your honor... can i say something"...

and when george is on the stand, cindy raising her hand, asking to speak..."your honor, i need to correct something that george said.... he wasn't watching the news, he was watching his favorite cooking show"..

[well, i lied...:sneaky: i really can't see casey taking the stand to testify. ]

Cindy "Your honor may I sit next to George while he is on the stand, I find that when I squeeze his leg very hard, his memory is much better."

[Imperfect4]

Well, all I can say after this latest performance: It's not much of a stretch to see how these two raised a murderer.

Amen. .....

[summer]

Well, all I can say after this latest performance: It's not much of a stretch to see how these two raised a murderer.

That's why in this particular case I go with nurture instead of nature. They're all carbon copies of one another. Not a stretch at all.

[Unleashed]

Well she certainly kept her own face in the media every day!

If their "mission" is to bring awareness to missing children (whatever that means in Anthonyspeak), I wonder why they need the boat. Are they planning to just drift along the banks of rivers holding up posters as they go? :sneaky:
my bold.

:ohmy::scared: I'm hoping you mean the cardboard kind, and not FLBs.

JMO

[AnniePie]

It's our fault Annie, we didn't take the time to read the clues in what Casey was telling LE. If we had we would have known that dropping Caylee at Apt 210 in Sawgrass really meant meeting Zenaida at Jay Blanchard Park, and the phone call she got that morning from Caylee talking about her shoes and her book was code for Zenaida and her sisters took Caylee away to punish Casey, but they are gonna bring her back by her third bday. All very simple we just needed the Casey Anthony decoder pin.

:thumbsup:

[Imperfect4]

Don't you just know that CA's mother probably cringes everytime she sees her on TV? :ohmy:

I feel badly for Mrs. Plesea.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in Rick's house, though, whenever his lil sis gets in front of a camera. It's probably a hoot! :laugh:

[PROPROS]

Grrrrrrrrrrr, Been at Dr's since 8 this morn.
Picked this thread and the nerve of the A"s.
They refused all help from Tim, blast the media and public and they act like this.
Who do they think they are. Hypocrits IMO.

I hope Ron does speak to his lawyer. Going to read more.

BGI am furious as well...According to Cindy the media would not have heard of Haleigh if "she" had not informed them...mo

[BlueHeron]

I am furious as well...According to Cindy the media would not have heard of Haleigh if "she" had not informed them...mo

And how exactly did she hear about it? Um..let's see...the media?

[PROPROS]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."
Unbelievable....That is don't turn anyone away that can make you money down the road...mo:angry:

[WillowInFlight]

You are right on target with that...Just what I was thinking...Keep up that story..He no more saw Caylee the morning of the 16th than the man in the moon...Casey and Caylee were long gone by the morning..mo

ITA. I can't remember though, did he testify at the GJ that he did indeed see Caylee the day of the 16th?

[Imperfect4]

That's why in this particular case I go with nurture instead of nature. They're all carbon copies of one another. Not a stretch at all.

Absotively posilutely.

This is not a case of a bad seed being born to surprised and unfortunate parents. And this is not a case of parents who did their best and still turned out a rotten child.

This is a case of cause and effect, pure and simple.

[bluwaters]

Are you sure it's a second motion? Was one filed on Thursday or Friday? (Please don't make me look at that link, lol.)

LOL! No, I'm not sure.

6/10/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE
6/11/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
6/12/2009 A MOTION TO DEPOSE WITNESSES
6/12/2009 A MOTION TO QUASH SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
6/12/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED WILLIAM R. JAY (ANTHONY LAZZARO)
6/12/2009 A STATE OF FLORIDA OBJECTION TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO CONTINUE FILED JUNE 8, 2009
6/12/2009 A ORDER FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
6/12/2009 A ORDER ON GEORGE AND CINDY ANTHONY'S MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE COURT HEREBY ENTERS A TEMPORARY STAY OF THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS AND REPORTS SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED ON JUNE 12, 2009. THE STAY WILL REMAIN INTACT UNTIL FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE COURT
6/12/2009 A ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR ADMISSION TO APPEAR PRO HAC VICE
6/15/2009 A MOTION TO RESTRICT DISCLOSURE OF AUTOPSY REPORT



Sorry, made you look! :tonguewag:

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

[Imperfect4]

ITA. I can't remember though, did he testify at the GJ that he did indeed see Caylee the day of the 16th?

We don't know what he testified to at the GJ, Willow.

[joolz]

my bold.

:ohmy::scared: I'm hoping you mean the cardboard kind, and not FLBs.

JMO

:lol:

Sorry I was not clear: the cardboard kind - as IF I would diss us that way! Well wait a second here - I may be F&L, but I am NOT a blogger!!!!!!!

[seeing_eye]

Paraphrasing Brad, did he not say that the reason the A's did not want the autopsy report released was because they did not want speculation as to what it contained bandied about for the next year?
Wouldn't the release of the report remove the speculation, or am I being too simplistic?

JMO

Exactly!!!! As long as we FLB's have not seen the autopsy report, all we have is speculation about what it might contain. And that speculation can go wide and far -- all the way from the obvious to the extremely implausible. A lot of it will be taken by casual observers as rock solid truth. IMO, that might hurt Casey's chances of getting a fair trial much more than releasing the autopsy report that would stop that wild speculation.

This further strengthens my suspicion that G&C are not as concerned about Casey getting a fair trial as they are about gaining support for their new vocations with their scamming fraudation. Notice their focus on this day of the anniversary of Caylee's disappearance (and probably murder) is not on Caylee at all, but on their foundation.

[PROPROS]

And how exactly did she hear about it? Um..let's see...the media?Now how in the heck could the media function without Cindy!!! And, she should have been home thinking about "herself" and singing her Caylee song...!!mo:thumbdown:

[AlohaRainbow]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."

soooooo... did maggie follow up and ask cindy how come they turned tim miller away??

[denjet]

Me too. That's one reason I liked this board (as opposed to another one which I won't mention :rolleyes:). I like that we're all on the same page and not skipping all over the place.
Hi Annie, I had to reply to your post ... the reason I stopped lurking here and signed up was because of the same reason. The board I was active on went downhill when so many separate threads were started and people who started them would campaign on the main board to bring posters there. It along with never staying on topic turned me off as it did other senior members who no longer post there. I hope that doesn't happen here. This has always been a great board with tons of good info on the case and consistently better than others I've lurked on. I hope it stays that way!
BTW good afternoon folks!:seeya:
(I hope this post doesn't send me to band camp)

[bluwaters]

ITA. I can't remember though, did he testify at the GJ that he did indeed see Caylee the day of the 16th?
The GJ is secret. We don't know what testimony G gave before the GJ.

[Imperfect4]

LOL! No, I'm not sure.



Sorry, made you look! :tonguewag:

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

THAT I can look at, lol. It's getting to THAT I can't stand. I don't navigate around so well in that site.

So it looks like the initial motion was filed last Wednesday, with Judge S responding on Friday with a temporary stay.

So yesterday's motion does indeed seem new. Wonder if someone else filed a motion? Or whether BC had to re-file his motion with the court after he cc:d media on his original motion?

Ack.

RELEASE THE AUTOPSY REPORT!

[BobbysGirl]

I am furious as well...According to Cindy the media would not have heard of Haleigh if "she" had not informed them...mo

WHAT? Cin needs a reality chk. How pompous of her. Her Hineness needs to....never mind. I don't want to bet bammed. MO

BG

[PROPROS]

ITA. I can't remember though, did he testify at the GJ that he did indeed see Caylee the day of the 16th?Hello Willow, I don't think we ever heard his GJ testimony...I would bet he is sticking with that story though...A lie here, a lie there, doesn't phase the Anthonys..mo

[happygert]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."


Heck they never even looked for their own granddaughter other then in their own back yard! Let alone look for someone else's daughter.

george is lying. The interview to LE he said that casey and Caylee stayed in casey's room until they came out and left..(paraphrasing) now he's saying he made Caylee breakfast that morning..

George said, "The last time I saw her was June 16, one year ago today. I woke up with her in the morning at 7:30, got a chance to have breakfast with her. Just before 1:00 that day, I didn't ever realize that that'd be the last time I would see her, have a chance to kiss her, hold her. I would hear her call me Jo-Jo, and put her in a car and wave good-bye to her."

Makes no sense woke her at 7:30 then he says Just before 1:00 that day. Just before 1:00 that day , what george? finish your lie please. .guess it's getting hard to keep up with all the lies. Oh I surle hope the DA's office has someone watching all these interviews that the lying A's are doing..

[WillowInFlight]

The GJ is secret. We don't know what testimony G gave before the GJ.

Thats right, no wonder I didn't remember. I guess I was thinking about the hearing that all 3 Anthonys took the stand.

[WillowInFlight]

Hello Willow, I don't think we ever heard his GJ testimony...I would bet he is sticking with that story though...A lie here, a lie there, doesn't phase the Anthonys..mo

What a way to honor their grandchild HUH?

[denjet]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/main5091256.shtml


This blows my mind. Does CA have amnesia?

CBS) The grandparents of a murdered central Florida two-year old say the father of a missing northern Florida five-year-old is making a mistake by rejecting their offers to come to his aid.

"When your child's missing, you take any bit of help that you can," Cindy Anthony remarked to Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez Tuesday. "You take every help. You don't turn anybody away. You can't turn anybody away."

Hi Happy!
Just about choked on my coffee when Cindy blurted out that one!
Not only does she think the public is stupid, but that we're all suffering from amnesia !! Or maybe she thinks she reaches a new audience everytime she appears ??? Unbelievable !! :cursing:

[ish]

Don't you just know that CA's mother probably cringes everytime she sees her on TV? :ohmy:

what about her brother Rick? I bet he is having a fit. I'd love to read his emails to Shirley.

[Tia]

I hope Ron Cummings makes a statement. Those Anthonys are nothing but TROUBLE!!!!


OMG, this makes me SO angry!!!!!! Now the Anthony's are going to make Haleigh's disappearance about THEM! I hope Ron just ignores them.

What a disgusting couple they are.

[denjet]

I feel badly for Mrs. Plesea.

I would love to be a fly on the wall in Rick's house, though, whenever his lil sis gets in front of a camera. It's probably a hoot! :laugh:
Hi Imp! you bring up a good point ... it must be awful for their families to endure these interviews and news stories ... I can't imagine having this happen in my own family and the grief it would cause everyone else in the family ... bet they all wish George and Cindy would just shut up!

[Imperfect4]

Heck they never even looked for their own granddaughter other then in their own back yard! Let alone look for someone else's daughter.

george is lying. The interview to LE he said that casey and Caylee stayed in casey's room until they came out and left..(paraphrasing) now he's saying he made Caylee breakfast that morning..

George said, "The last time I saw her was June 16, one year ago today. I woke up with her in the morning at 7:30, got a chance to have breakfast with her. Just before 1:00 that day, I didn't ever realize that that'd be the last time I would see her, have a chance to kiss her, hold her. I would hear her call me Jo-Jo, and put her in a car and wave good-bye to her."

Makes no sense woke her at 7:30 then he says Just before 1:00 that day. Just before 1:00 that day , what george? finish your lie please. .guess it's getting hard to keep up with all the lies. Oh I surle hope the DA's office has someone watching all these interviews that the lying A's are doing..

Just because I could, I just emailed M&M with that little story change.

Want to keep them apprised, just in case they can use it. :sneaky:

[SaraSidle]

Casey Anthony case: Legal analyst calls Jose Baez ‘an inexperienced lawyer’ in ‘over his head'
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m6d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Legal-analyst-says-Jose-Baez-is-an-inexperienced-lawyer-who-is-in-over-his-he

Caylee Anthony, one year later
http://www.wptv.com/news/local/story/Caylee-Anthonys-disappearance-one-year-later/5jSTGjffgEaQ9AdTSwCM_g.cspx

Year later, Caylee Marie Anthony case still rivets
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-aseccaylee-anniversary-year-late061609jun16,0,1850121.story

thank you for your posts.............sara

[sydney]

hi, all. i find it amazing that ga would not answer questions during his depo about his "last memory of his granddaughter" (paraphrasing and even though he was not asked about that iirc), apparently because it was too painful but will go on national television and talk (lie) about it.

[BobbysGirl]

Lies GA, he can't finish them. I bet he has permanent black/blue marks and digs on his thighs; everytime he opens his mouth Cin grabs him. I just saw a short clip on HLN of the interview. First time I heard Cin say she missed Caylee. IMO IIRC

BG

[Thisbe II]

I also think that Caylee's bagged body was in the trunk of Casey's car, but just am also thinking that there is a good possibility that Casey tried to hide the body in the backyard at some point in time, before it was deposited just inside the woods on Suburan Drive.
.


arrrgh.....I am going to give up trying to catch up this morning and just jump in and post. Dont you think they are taking soil samples from the neighbors shovel and comparing them to soil found in the woods around the body? During the interviews it just read with the neighbor (Bruner? ) The investigator makes a point in the narrative interview and asks if the shovel had been used since he handed it over to the sheriffs deputy. Neighbor states that he had not used this shovel since Casey borrowed it in mid June.

Gin:confused:

[happygert]

Just because I could, I just emailed M&M with that little story change.

Want to keep them apprised, just in case they can use it. :sneaky:

Good.. When do they go back on front of him do you know? Haven't been around much didnt know if they've had the hearing yet on the motion to comply yet...

[sydney]

ga and ca can protest all they want that they don't want the autopsy reports released but they can't stop it. those results are EVIDENCE in a murder trial that the state is entitled to produce - it goes to proof of the crime. i also wonder why they now refer to caylee's "remains" when ga, at least, was angry that that phrase was used during his depo.

[PROPROS]

Hi Happy!
Just about choked on my coffee when Cindy blurted out that one!
Not only does she think the public is stupid, but that we're all suffering from amnesia !! Or maybe she thinks she reaches a new audience everytime she appears ??? Unbelievable !! :cursing:I would have loved to hear Maggie Rodriguez call her on that...Cindy isn't it true that you were totally against "anyone" searching for a dead Caylee and even called Tim Miller a drunk! mo

[court~critic1®]

As the new lawyers favorite excuse for a killer is that their parents made them do it. I am willing to bet this is what she will go with on Casey. Cindy made Casey kill Caylee, because Casey was mad at Cindy.

What a cop out!!!!:cursing:

[CelticDawn]

I agree. An accident, followed by some fugue state brought on by her screamingly dysfunctional upbringing, to explain her footloose, fancy-free attitude and behavior for the following month.

It's all they've got. imo

What I hope the state has, is evidence we have no idea about, to back up their request for the DP.

I have a question that is TOTALLY OFF THE WALL (not that Im not off the wall anyway...)


IN FLORIDA with its SUNSHINE LAWS


IF there is a witness to a crime that needs PROTECTION....for WHATEVER REASON......COULD said witnesses very existence be hidden....superceding the sunshine law????????


I have always believed that the law there in active crimminal investigations has always had the potential of ruining prosecution.....but if witnesses can be protected....that would make sense.

[sammy62]

Well, all I can say after this latest performance: It's not much of a stretch to see how these two raised a murderer.

This is kinda ot....but we were in a state park this past weekend, and my husband stopped the car and helped a little turtle cross the road. Empathy for others...is learned at the parent's knee. My grandson says "sorry tree" when they snap off a branch to roast weenies.

OK>>>>we are weird too. lol :rolleyes:

But Casey never learned empathy. Thats why none of us can imagine doing anything that callous.

[PROPROS]

hi, all. i find it amazing that ga would not answer questions during his depo about his "last memory of his granddaughter" (paraphrasing and even though he was not asked about that iirc), apparently because it was too painful but will go on national television and talk (lie) about it.:thumbsup: Amazing how a 5 star hotel and a few crabpuffs can soften the blow of those "last memories" for The Anthonys..mo

[Lavinia]

My bold ...

And let's not forget Tooooodddd, the accident reconstruction expert.

Does he hang out with Lisa Loopner? :loveeyes:

[happygert]

Hi Imp! you bring up a good point ... it must be awful for their families to endure these interviews and news stories ... I can't imagine having this happen in my own family and the grief it would cause everyone else in the family ... bet they all wish George and Cindy would just shut up!

Every time the A's open their mouths out flys another lie.. I'm guessing Ricks also keeping a running tab of all the lies..ca's poor parents.. I'm also guessing all t.v's where cindys Dad's at are kept off in his room..or on channels that dont carry the news..

[sydney]

:thumbsup: Amazing how a 5 star hotel and a few crabpuffs can soften the blow of those "last memories" for The Anthonys..mo

some people just eat when they are depressed - maybe that's the case here - NOT

[Kathlb]

Just because I could, I just emailed M&M with that little story change.

Want to keep them apprised, just in case they can use it. :sneaky:

I can't keep up with all of the abbreviations. :biggrin: What is M&M? and I'll probably kick myself when I hear the answer.:crying:

[PROPROS]

This is kinda ot....but we were in a state park this past weekend, and my husband stopped the car and helped a little turtle cross the road. Empathy for others...is learned at the parent's knee. My grandson says "sorry tree" when they snap off a branch to roast weenies.

OK>>>>we are weird too. lol :rolleyes:

But Casey never learned empathy. Thats why none of us can imagine doing anything that callous.What a great story!!mo:rose:

[happygert]

I would have loved to hear Maggie Rodriguez call her on that...Cindy isn't it true that you were totally against "anyone" searching for a dead Caylee and even called Tim Miller a drunk! mo

Hi PRO, naw imo cindy only does interviews with ones who wont ask those kind of questions..

[ish]

hi, all. i find it amazing that ga would not answer questions during his depo about his "last memory of his granddaughter" (paraphrasing and even though he was not asked about that iirc), apparently because it was too painful but will go on national television and talk (lie) about it.

that's because Cindy hadn't yet told him what his last memory of her was.:sad:

[happygert]

I can't keep up with all of the abbreviations. :biggrin: What is M&M? and I'll probably kick myself when I hear the answer.:crying:

Morgan lawfirm,

[WillowInFlight]

Hi PRO, naw imo cindy only does interviews with ones who wont ask those kind of questions..

I think you're right, I'm sure Cindy lets them know before hand what can and can't be asked. She won't have that luxury when she has to take the stand during the trial. :sneaky:

[Imperfect4]

Good.. When do they go back on front of him do you know? Haven't been around much didnt know if they've had the hearing yet on the motion to comply yet...

No date set that I know of. The last hearing was cancelled due to Brad Conway's bad back. :glare:

[denjet]

ga and ca can protest all they want that they don't want the autopsy reports released but they can't stop it. those results are EVIDENCE in a murder trial that the state is entitled to produce - it goes to proof of the crime. i also wonder why they now refer to caylee's "remains" when ga, at least, was angry that that phrase was used during his depo.
Hi syd!
I wondered that too ... with the Ants it goes way past stupidity and delusion ... maybe premature senility and short-term memory loss ... naahh I think it's just plain arrogance!

[BobbysGirl]

I am curious as to what is going on behind the scenes. The A's on news again with their lies etc. I wonder if something is going to be released soon? What I don't know. They usually show up in the media when court appearance, doc release happens. And their demeanor changes and their brains mal function again. Who are they covering for?

Maybe they decided to look at the autopsy report.

What do I know. I am always trying to read between the lies I mean lines. Something is going on. JMHO

BG

[sydney]

in case anyone is wondering - following from wikipedia:

"A fugue state, ...... is a rare psychiatric disorder characterized by reversible amnesia for personal identity, including the memories, personality and other identifying characteristics of individuality. The state is usually short-lived (hours to days), but can last months or longer. Dissociative fugue usually involves unplanned travel or wandering, and is sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity. After recovery from fugue, previous memories usually return intact, however there is complete amnesia for the fugue episode. Importantly, an episode is not characterized as a fugue if it can be related to the ingestion of psychotropic substances, to physical trauma, to a general medical condition, or to psychiatric conditions such as delerium or dementia, bipolar disorder or depression. Fugues are usually precipitated by a stressful episode, and upon recovery there may be amnesia for the original stressor (Dissociative Amnesia)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state (hope i did this right)

[PROPROS]

Hi PRO, naw imo cindy only does interviews with ones who wont ask those kind of questions..Hi happy, I was thrilled to see that Maggie brought up the fact that Ron Cummings told The Anthonys to take a hike...Unfortunately, she plays softball with them like the others...They need an interview with someone like M&M or maybe Howard Stern!!:sneaky:mo

[Imperfect4]

I can't keep up with all of the abbreviations. :biggrin: What is M&M? and I'll probably kick myself when I hear the answer.:crying:

Morgan and Morgan, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez in her civil suit against the OC.

They are attempting to get the court to force the A's back on the "stand" to answer certain questions they refused to answer in their depositions.

[AMS]

I think she was also Willow, but Lyon has a year or more to concoct a workable defense around the accident nonsense, using whatever evidence LE has developed.

I also think the fact that casey is not seeing cindy, george and lee will be useful in the accident defense.

Remember, they will have a psychiatric ($$$) expert ready and willing to roll to the stand to explain it all to the jury and attempt to make it "reasonable."

If they go this route, which I think is a strong possibility, do you think thedefense will clue in C & G to the fact that their disfunction is part of the defense? Tell them to play it up even more in public?


imo

[sydney]

Hi syd!
I wondered that too ... with the Ants it goes way past stupidity and delusion ... maybe premature senility and short-term memory loss ... naahh I think it's just plain arrogance!

hey back! (stealth posting - only have a few more minutes).

i think this just goes back to the control-freak nature of that whole family. i am absolutely APPALLED (but unsurprised) that they think that just because it's upsetting to them to have the autopsy report produced, that they can tell the court what to do.

i hope someone slaps them real hard for these frivolous, dilatory motions.

[bchand]

Now how in the heck could the media function without Cindy!!! And, she should have been home thinking about "herself" and singing her Caylee song...!!mo:thumbdown:

lol yeah right Cindy. We believe you.

OT I took my granddaughters to a swim meet this morning and there was a lady there with Cindy's exact hairdo (mushroom look). I instantly disliked the poor lady until I came to my senses.

[happygert]

I think you're right, I'm sure Cindy lets them know before hand what can and can't be asked. She won't have that luxury when she has to take the stand during the trial. :sneaky:

No she wont.. Im just waiting for her and george to say I'm not answering that, how dare you say the remains of my granddaughter if you say that one more time i'm leaving .that question has nothing to do with why were here.. Im not answering about my daughters finances, or about if she did or did not take money from us..:rolleyes:

[Imperfect4]

in case anyone is wondering - following from wikipedia:

"A fugue state, ...... is a rare psychiatric disorder characterized by reversible amnesia for personal identity, including the memories, personality and other identifying characteristics of individuality. The state is usually short-lived (hours to days), but can last months or longer. Dissociative fugue usually involves unplanned travel or wandering, and is sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity. After recovery from fugue, previous memories usually return intact, however there is complete amnesia for the fugue episode. Importantly, an episode is not characterized as a fugue if it can be related to the ingestion of psychotropic substances, to physical trauma, to a general medical condition, or to psychiatric conditions such as delerium or dementia, bipolar disorder or depression. Fugues are usually precipitated by a stressful episode, and upon recovery there may be amnesia for the original stressor (Dissociative Amnesia)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state (hope i did this right)

You did, and thank you for that!

And there you have it. Ugly Coping in psychiatric terms.

[PROPROS]

I think you're right, I'm sure Cindy lets them know before hand what can and can't be asked. She won't have that luxury when she has to take the stand during the trial. :sneaky:Yep, that will be the interview to end all interviews...I would like to place a bet on how long Cindy can maintain her composure,before she goes off..mo

[Scampi]

My bold ...

And let's not forget Tooooodddd, the accident reconstruction expert.

Oh yes, and as long as Bellowing Kathy Belich is kept away from him, he should be fine spinning his reconstruction of "the accident."

[Kathlb]

Morgan lawfirm,

Ah Hah...thanks happy! :thumbsup:

[sydney]

If they go this route, which I think is a strong possibility, do you think thedefense will clue in C & G to the fact that their disfunction is part of the defense? Tell them to play it up even more in public?


imo

hope you don't mind me responding - i think even IF the defense told them that their dysfunction is part of the defense, their narcissism would prevent them from believing it

[BobbysGirl]

in case anyone is wondering - following from wikipedia:

"A fugue state, ...... is a rare psychiatric disorder characterized by reversible amnesia for personal identity, including the memories, personality and other identifying characteristics of individuality. The state is usually short-lived (hours to days), but can last months or longer. Dissociative fugue usually involves unplanned travel or wandering, and is sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity. After recovery from fugue, previous memories usually return intact, however there is complete amnesia for the fugue episode. Importantly, an episode is not characterized as a fugue if it can be related to the ingestion of psychotropic substances, to physical trauma, to a general medical condition, or to psychiatric conditions such as delerium or dementia, bipolar disorder or depression. Fugues are usually precipitated by a stressful episode, and upon recovery there may be amnesia for the original stressor (Dissociative Amnesia)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state (hope i did this right)

TY SYD Interesting.

[5boxersmom]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo

[ttcRider]

my bold.

:ohmy::scared: I'm hoping you mean the cardboard kind, and not FLBs.

JMO

OMG Un, you crack me up! :wub:

[PROPROS]

lol yeah right Cindy. We believe you.

OT I took my granddaughters to a swim meet this morning and there was a lady there with Cindy's exact hairdo (mushroom look). I instantly disliked the poor lady until I came to my senses.(LOL)...Thats all we need....Cindy clones...Mushroom hair,green clothes,wearing shamrock pins and carrying bottled water...mo:tonguewag:

[Kathlb]

Morgan and Morgan, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez in her civil suit against the OC.

They are attempting to get the court to force the A's back on the "stand" to answer certain questions they refused to answer in their depositions.

Thanks to you too imp, I guess I'd not noticed the abbrev. for them before this. :-)

[ish]

If they go this route, which I think is a strong possibility, do you think thedefense will clue in C & G to the fact that their disfunction is part of the defense? Tell them to play it up even more in public?


imo

if they go that route G&C don't even have to take the stand, Baez can play a montage of their public appearances and statements. That will certainly fill the jury in on their dysfunction.

[Thisbe II]

I am curious as to what is going on behind the scenes. The A's on news again with their lies etc. I wonder if something is going to be released soon? What I don't know. They usually show up in the media when court appearance, doc release happens. And their demeanor changes and their brains mal function again. Who are they covering for?

Maybe they decided to look at the autopsy report.

What do I know. I am always trying to read between the lies I mean lines. Something is going on. JMHO

BG

I thought the same thing. Maybe an attempt to sway the judge in his decision wherther or not to release the autopsy results....Paint themselves once again as the victimized grieving grand parents. Their must be something interesting in that report.

Gin

[WillowInFlight]

in case anyone is wondering - following from wikipedia:

"A fugue state, ...... is a rare psychiatric disorder characterized by reversible amnesia for personal identity, including the memories, personality and other identifying characteristics of individuality. The state is usually short-lived (hours to days), but can last months or longer. Dissociative fugue usually involves unplanned travel or wandering, and is sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity. After recovery from fugue, previous memories usually return intact, however there is complete amnesia for the fugue episode. Importantly, an episode is not characterized as a fugue if it can be related to the ingestion of psychotropic substances, to physical trauma, to a general medical condition, or to psychiatric conditions such as delerium or dementia, bipolar disorder or depression. Fugues are usually precipitated by a stressful episode, and upon recovery there may be amnesia for the original stressor (Dissociative Amnesia)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state (hope i did this right)

Didn't good ole Lenny allude very early on that Casey may not remember what happened? I think he said it before he realized the truth of what really happened.

[ish]

(LOL)...Thats all we need....Cindy clones...Mushroom hair,green clothes,wearing shamrock pins and carrying bottled water...mo:tonguewag:

Isn't CIndy's "do" a rendition of the old Dorothy Hamill, short and sassy look?

[Imperfect4]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo

Wasn't there some story about taking a swim in the pool after returning from Mt. Dora? Just had a pleasant night at home or something similar also rings a bell.

"Heard them sleeping." What a rocket scientist. :rolleyes:

[sydney]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo

how do you hear someone sleeping? did they snore?:confused:

[WillowInFlight]

I thought the same thing. Maybe an attempt to sway the judge in his decision wherther or not to release the autopsy results....Paint themselves once again as the victimized grieving grand parents. Their must be something interesting in that report.

Gin

I'm shocked that they haven't said the release of it could make George suicidal again.

[PROPROS]

Isn't CIndy's "do" a rendition of the old Dorothy Hamill, short and sassy look?OMG...Now I have a vision of Cindy on ice doing the triple...Well, I guess if she can drag race...:scared:mo

[Unleashed]

No she wont.. Im just waiting for her and george to say I'm not answering that, how dare you say the remains of my granddaughter if you say that one more time i'm leaving .that question has nothing to do with why were here.. Im not answering about my daughters finances, or about if she did or did not take money from us..:rolleyes:

And stop giving me the finger!!! I know you did!!!! :biggrin:


JMO

[AMS]

Calylee Anthony – Vigil On June 16

http://www.bloggernews.net/121267

From the link:

I know that there is not much love lost between the Grund’s and the Anthony’s so I doubt that the Anthony’s will be in attendance. However we do have information that in order to prevent any kind of disruption to the gathering there will be some security personnel in attendance, including The Guardian Angels.


imo

[Kathlb]

I thought the same thing. Maybe an attempt to sway the judge in his decision wherther or not to release the autopsy results....Paint themselves once again as the victimized grieving grand parents. Their must be something interesting in that report.

Gin

I agree, however, they don't have any standing insofar as being able to file things concerning evidence in the case. The judge is being kind to them by holding it up until he hears from the media. He also slammed their lawyer by letting everyone know that its the media, not the pros. that they need to address. Which tells me that the judge is going to release it due to the sunshine law and Cindy needs to fight the media on whether they post it for the public. And we all know what the maggots will do. ROFL They are going to publish it as fast as they can for us. After all, Cindy did call them maggots and us fat lazy bloggers. She sure knows how to win friends and influence people. :tongueside:

[sydney]

Didn't good ole Lenny allude very early on that Casey may not remember what happened? I think he said it before he realized the truth of what really happened.

but, iirc, she ALWAYS knew she was casey during this "fugue" state, right? i'm referring to the 31 days of partying......kinda blows that argument out of the water for me.

if she uses that defense, she will REALLY have fugued up.

[PROPROS]

Wasn't there some story about taking a swim in the pool after returning from Mt. Dora? Just had a pleasant night at home or something similar also rings a bell.

"Heard them sleeping." What a rocket scientist. :rolleyes:Talking a swim,chit chatting and strangling Casey...Just a pleasant night at Casa Anthony...mo

[ish]

how do you hear someone sleeping? did they snore?:confused:

they're "loud sleepers" very rare medical condition, along with "low talkers" "high talkers" and "close talkers" :biggrin:

[KittyMom]

Can't you just see this trial...

pros proves that Casey is a liar
pros proves that Cindy is a liar
pros proves that George is a liar
pros proves that Lee is a liar
defense proves that Casey is a liar
defense proves that Cindy is a liar
defense proves that George is a liar
defense proves that Lee is a liar
:blink:

Jury decides that the pros is the only one telling the truth. Case closed. :thumbsup:

[ttcRider]

I can't keep up with all of the abbreviations. :biggrin: What is M&M? and I'll probably kick myself when I hear the answer.:crying:

I want to know why all our abbreviations have to do with food!!!!!

[happygert]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo


she said she tucked casey and Caylee in on father's day. She also said she heard them sleeping... oK still trying to fgure out she could hear both sleeping.. Wouldnt the lie have been better if she said I looked in casey's room and they were sleeping when I left for work on Monday.. One more thing I dont know anyone who tucks their 22 year old in bed......:no:

[Kathlb]

I want to know why all our abbreviations have to do with food!!!!!

'cause we're fat lazy bloggers of course. :tonguewag::lol:

[KittyMom]

Calylee Anthony – Vigil On June 16

http://www.bloggernews.net/121267

From the link:

I know that there is not much love lost between the Grund’s and the Anthony’s so I doubt that the Anthony’s will be in attendance. However we do have information that in order to prevent any kind of disruption to the gathering there will be some security personnel in attendance, including The Guardian Angels.


imo

The guardian angels...the same group that guarded the A's house many moons ago. Wonder how they feel about that now?

[5boxersmom]

Wasn't there some story about taking a swim in the pool after returning from Mt. Dora? Just had a pleasant night at home or something similar also rings a bell.

"Heard them sleeping." What a rocket scientist. :rolleyes:

Yes and I can't remember what Cindy said. If she said Casey said the pool was to cold to get in or if Cindy told Casey the pool was cold.

What happen after that? Was Caylee given a bath? Did they have Dinner? Watch Tv? Never hear anything about after the swim.

jmo

[sydney]

they're "loud sleepers" very rare medical condition, along with "low talkers" "high talkers" and "close talkers" :biggrin:

don't forget "code talkers" :wink:

gotta go, guys.

later

[kjt200]

A few totally random thoughts:

1. The media makes me want to throw up at times. Remember the days of real "investigative reporting?" When getting at the truth was the objective? When asking pertinent follow-up questions was viewed as part of the job? Can someone tell me when all of that changed? Did it just creep up on us and we failed to notice? When did network reporters turn into "platform providers?" "It's not my job to question the answer, just to ask a question." That makes no sense to me at all. They just sit there and let that wretched family lie and lie and lie.

Why not have a series of clips at the ready to counter the lie? How easy would it have been to say, "let's run a clip of George initially discussing the last time he saw Caylee. George, you initially said that you saw Casey and Caylee come out of the room at one time and now you are saying it was much earlier. How do you reconcile the different statement? Just how hard would that have been to ask? Wouldn't the odd answer that he would give be news in itself? I just don't get it.

It's been a year. Wouldn't a natural question be, "George and Cindy, it's been a year, while others in your position have to return to work, why is it you have been able to avoid that reality?" WHY does NOT ONE reporter ask this question??????

2. Good ole Brad (ya gotta love ole Brad) says that Casey will have to take the stand. That one provided a regular belly laugh. They will never put that monster on the stand. But I gotta say..........I would love for them to do so. It would be better than watching the circus.

3. You reap what you sow. Cindy has found religion now so I hope she's ready. I think karma would best be delivered through a defense that throws George and Cindy under a mack truck. I would love to watch that. In the end it's Casey who needs to go to the big house, but I would love to see George and Cindy get theirs in open court. I'm sorry but any sympathy I had for that family dried up months ago. How dare they try to profit off the blood of that child.

I have more, but I can't type fast enough to keep up with the outraged thoughts racing through my head. So I'll just stop now.

Thanks for listening. My own rambling opinion of course. Be well.

[ttcRider]

in case anyone is wondering - following from wikipedia:

"A fugue state, ...... is a rare psychiatric disorder characterized by reversible amnesia for personal identity, including the memories, personality and other identifying characteristics of individuality. The state is usually short-lived (hours to days), but can last months or longer. Dissociative fugue usually involves unplanned travel or wandering, and is sometimes accompanied by the establishment of a new identity. After recovery from fugue, previous memories usually return intact, however there is complete amnesia for the fugue episode. Importantly, an episode is not characterized as a fugue if it can be related to the ingestion of psychotropic substances, to physical trauma, to a general medical condition, or to psychiatric conditions such as delerium or dementia, bipolar disorder or depression. Fugues are usually precipitated by a stressful episode, and upon recovery there may be amnesia for the original stressor (Dissociative Amnesia)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state (hope i did this right)

Thanks syd! I just thought it was a typo of vague!!! :laugh:

[Scampi]

If they go this route, which I think is a strong possibility, do you think thedefense will clue in C & G to the fact that their disfunction is part of the defense? Tell them to play it up even more in public?


imo

Oh yes, all parties will act in tandem and do whatever it takes to get this babykiller off, imo. It is totally disgusting.


:cuss:

[5boxersmom]

she said she tucked casey and Caylee in on father's day. She also said she heard them sleeping... oK still trying to fgure out she could hear both sleeping.. Wouldnt the lie have been better if she said I looked in casey's room and they were sleeping when I left for work on Monday.. One more thing I dont know anyone who tucks their 22 year old in bed......:no:

Maybe at the time Cindy said it she didn't want to put Caylee at the house that morning. CYA mode at that time.

jmo

[happygert]

they're "loud sleepers" very rare medical condition, along with "low talkers" "high talkers" and "close talkers" :biggrin:

roflamo.......

[5boxersmom]

how do you hear someone sleeping? did they snore?:confused:

I don't know. :lol:

[Explorer]

Does anyone think the a's are going to show up at the memorial?

[happygert]

Maybe at the time Cindy said it she didn't want to put Caylee at the house that morning. CYA mode at that time.

jmo


I would love to hear the Pro's ask her how she knew they were in bed when she left.. And her answer i heard them sleeping.. then pros say how did you hear them sleeping....lol

[Explorer]

Does anyone think Ron Cummings will respond to the anthonys statements today?

[sammy62]

Lying George's nose should be a foot long after today's whoppers. In fairness he has learned to lie from a good one: the famous Evil Cindy. :smile:

don't forget in his statement to the FBI....I married Cindy because she is so honest. paraphrased because I only have audio.

[Unleashed]

I want to know why all our abbreviations have to do with food!!!!!


You mean like KFC, KFC, KFC? Hungry yet? :loveeyes:

[happygert]

Does anyone think the a's are going to show up at the memorial?

IMO not a snow balls chance in HE!!

[imc_e]

Does anyone think the a's are going to show up at the memorial?


They have done nothing for Caylee, unless you count betraying her.

If they show up at this memorial, I wouldn't be surprized ONE bit, if they were booed.

jmo

[summer]

Talking a swim,chit chatting and strangling Casey...Just a pleasant night at Casa Anthony...mo

The only thing they haven't included in their perfect scenario is: And then the Mutha of the Year said "I love you mom. I love you Dad. And we all had a group hug!".

How come every missing person says I love you the last time they were seen? :rolleyes:

[Explorer]

IMO not a snow balls chance in HE!!

I dunno they are awefully boldbarf

[summer]

Does anyone think Ron Cummings will respond to the anthonys statements today?

I hope so. How dare they bait this man this way! No shame. :sad:

[sammy62]

does anyone know if the memorial will be live anywhere?

[happygert]

I don't know. :lol:

maybe they snore like a cincinnati freight:lol:

[Explorer]

I hope so. How dare they bait this man this way! No shame. :sad:

I truly hope Ron socks it to em.

[happy2bme]

don't forget in his statement to the FBI....I married Cindy because she is so honest. paraphrased because I only have audio.

I think I am gonna be sick.:glare:

[KittyMom]

I just hit me...George was wearing a black vest this morning. Was he trying to look like Lenny P? :huh:

[PROPROS]

IMO not a snow balls chance in HE!!ITA...Cindy would never attend anything that she could not control...Also, I haven't heard that there is a "banned list" and that would never fly with her..mo:thumbdown:

[happygert]

I dunno they are awefully boldbarf

You're right.. IMO if they do show up its just to cause trouble and make a scene....

[Explorer]

They have done nothing for Caylee, unless you count betraying her.

If they show up at this memorial, I wouldn't be surprized ONE bit, if they were booed.

jmo

I hope Rev Grund socks it to em:biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

maybe they snore like a cincinnati freight:lol:

Maybe :lol:

[happygert]

I just hit me...George was wearing a black vest this morning. Was he trying to look like Lenny P? :huh:

LOL......no cowboy hat.. maybe LP left one there..

[AMS]

IMO not a snow balls chance in HE!!

No but it wouldn't surpise me if they pulled some whacky stunt to try to get media attention back on them. Cindy fainting in the front yard or something like that 10 minutes before the vigil is supposed to start. And of course, she would have contacted the national media first...:sneaky:

imo imo

[5boxersmom]

I just hit me...George was wearing a black vest this morning. Was he trying to look like Lenny P? :huh:

I noticed that. What was up with that? Looked like the vest the people keep money in when you are going into a sporting event. :w00t:

jmo

[PROPROS]

I hope so. How dare they bait this man this way! No shame. :sad:Because he choose not to go along with what they are selling...Of course, Kidfinders was told to take a hike along with the Anthonys. They are probably po about that too...GA said he wants to stay in the backround...My memory of him was that he was front and center on the evening news,hands waving, and plugging Kidfinders...mo

[happygert]

ITA...Cindy would never attend anything that she could not control...Also, I haven't heard that there is a "banned list" and that would never fly with her..mo:thumbdown:

ITA.. thats why she's doing these interviews with ones who pay her and wont ask the hard questions ..and wont go to ones that wont pay and will ask the hard questions..

[ish]

she said she tucked casey and Caylee in on father's day. She also said she heard them sleeping... oK still trying to fgure out she could hear both sleeping.. Wouldnt the lie have been better if she said I looked in casey's room and they were sleeping when I left for work on Monday.. One more thing I dont know anyone who tucks their 22 year old in bed......:no:

saying she SAW them and then having it proven that they were not even there I think is why she said she HEARD them sleeping, but why that lie would be of consequence when she had told countless others I don't know.

[Unleashed]

Does anyone think the a's are going to show up at the memorial?

They've probably been mis-invited.

JMO

[happygert]

Because he choose not to go along with what they are selling...Of course, Kidfinders was told to take a hike along with the Anthonys. They are probably po about that too...GA said he wants to stay in the backround...My memory of him was that he was front and center on the evening news,hands waving, and plugging Kidfinders...mo

Yes he was.. what a phony piece of crap he is...IMO

[desmom]

8:50 on the timer http://www.wftv.com/video/17565512/index.html Cindy said she usually left for work 7:20 - 7:30 on Monday and Tuesdays. On very rare occasion, Caylee might be awake before she left.

August 4, 2008 interview with George http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

Page 3 George told LE "generally I'd be up like 7:30, 8:00 in the morning, shortly after my wife would leave and I know maybe like 9 or 10 then that's when Casey and Caylee would come out cause Caylee used to sleep a lot with uh, Casey so or Casey, and Caylee would sleep a lot together. I mean I'd be the one a lot of times giving the little girl her breakfast. You know playing, watching the TV with her a little bit, taking her outside to play uh walking to the mailbox or just..."

Page 9 LE asked who was at the house..if he actually remembered seeing them. George said, "Well, I, I'm, I'm positive that uh, Casey's car was in the driveway and I would be lead to believe then that they were both there, Casey and Caylee, I know my wife was there because I got home just shortly after 11:00. And the next morning, or lets put it this way like 10 minutes to 1 that afternoon on the 16th is when I actually saw Casey and Caylee together, they're both leaving with backpacks and so my daughter said she was going to work and she was taking Caylee to the, to the nanny, to the babysitter. But I know it was 10 minutes to 1 cause I was watching this food channel thing that I watch between noon and 1:00. So I'm positive that, that I know for a dog gone fact." (note - which is George, a nanny or a babysitter?)

On page 11, George said, "...She just set it down and she says, "Hey", she says, "I'm a be working a little bit late, uh, Caylee's gonna be staying with the nanny, I'm gonna come back and stay there and I'll see you and mom tomorrow afternoon." That's not nothing unusual; she's done that a few different times so. She said she already had, he says, "I already talked to mom, mom knows I'm gonna be staying over", I said, "Okay just be careful and I'll see you tomorrow type deal".

No mention of breakfast, putting Caylee in the car or kisses. Casey and Caylee generally got up around 9 or 10, but on the 16th George fed Caylee breakfast at 7:300..around the time Cindy left for work, but she heard them sleeping.

jmo

[imc_e]

I hope Rev Grund socks it to em:biggrin:

Oh ya me too.

Cindy has the nerve to talk about how hard this day is for her, what about Caylee? How HARD was this day for HER, one year ago, as her Muther murdered her.

How HARD is this day today for Caylee, knowing her beloved Grandparents have continually betrayed her.

Caylee who??

:bored:

[AnniePie]

Heck they never even looked for their own granddaughter other then in their own back yard! Let alone look for someone else's daughter.

george is lying. The interview to LE he said that casey and Caylee stayed in casey's room until they came out and left..(paraphrasing) now he's saying he made Caylee breakfast that morning..

George said, "The last time I saw her was June 16, one year ago today. I woke up with her in the morning at 7:30, got a chance to have breakfast with her. Just before 1:00 that day, I didn't ever realize that that'd be the last time I would see her, have a chance to kiss her, hold her. I would hear her call me Jo-Jo, and put her in a car and wave good-bye to her."

Makes no sense woke her at 7:30 then he says Just before 1:00 that day. Just before 1:00 that day , what george? finish your lie please. .guess it's getting hard to keep up with all the lies. Oh I surle hope the DA's office has someone watching all these interviews that the lying A's are doing..

Okay... ewww... I didn't click on any links to see them, but they just appeared on HLN and I saw them for a moment. Eww... ick...

Lavinia, please pass the clam fork.

(Did George borrow one of Lenny's black vests for the show? WTG George, you're my new fashion idol. :drool:)

[Explorer]

:biggrin:They've probably been mis-invited.

JMO Theyll show anyway

[ish]

No but it wouldn't surpise me if they pulled some whacky stunt to try to get media attention back on them. Cindy fainting in the front yard or something like that 10 minutes before the vigil is supposed to start. And of course, she would have contacted the national media first...:sneaky:

imo imo

My money is on George fainting if anyone does, Cindy will attack someone verbally or threaten to soak them with the hose, fainting is not her style,she prefers confrontation.

[Explorer]

Okay... ewww... I didn't click on any links to see them, but they just appeared on HLN and I saw them for a moment. Eww... ick...

Lavinia, please pass the clam fork.

(Did George borrow one of Lenny's black vests for the show? WTG George, you're my new fashion idol. :drool:):biggrin: A real hunk:biggrin:

[ellegna]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo

My bold

Unless both Casey and Caylee snored how does one hear someone sleeping behind a closed door? :shrug:
Strange Cindy would say that instead of "I peeked in before leaving for work and saw them sleeping"

[5boxersmom]

:biggrin: Theyll show anyway

Did they stay in New York or go back to FL?

[summer]

Maybe George wants to look like Fonzie so he's in character the next time he jumps the shark.

(It always helps to have a costume to accompany the lies)

[farrahrani]

how do you hear someone sleeping? did they snore?:confused:

Well...I'm not going to defend Cindy, but to my embarrassment I've used that phrase myself. :blushing:

When the house is still, and all is quiet, the windows shut, and nothing on, sounds are amplified. I mean no a/c, no pc, no radio, dishwasher, nothing. I've often stood near my daughter's bedroom door when she was little, and listened to the sound of her breathing, or her turning over or kicking off her covers. And noooo, she doesn't breathe LOUD, >.< It's just a sign of how quiet and still things are that you can pick that up.

That being said, somehow I just can't imagine the Anthony household EVER being THAT still! :laugh:

[happygert]

No but it wouldn't surpise me if they pulled some whacky stunt to try to get media attention back on them. Cindy fainting in the front yard or something like that 10 minutes before the vigil is supposed to start. And of course, she would have contacted the national media first...:sneaky:

imo imo

Or maybe george will fake another suicide attempt.:wink:. maybe this time he'll put some asprins in the bottle so police will at least find something in them instead of empty pill bottles.. Im guessing right before trial starts g or c will pull something to try and get it delayed..

[BobbysGirl]

:biggrin: Theyll show anyway

Sure they will show. Must keep up w/ the new image. Blech

BG

[AnniePie]

my bold.

:ohmy::scared: I'm hoping you mean the cardboard kind, and not FLBs.

JMO

I'd like to see George try to hold me up. Do you know what a year of sitting at this computer, eating pork cheesies and drinking merlot can do to a body? :w00t:

[summer]

Well...I'm not going to defend Cindy, but to my embarrassment I've used that phrase myself. :blushing:

When the house is still, and all is quiet, the windows shut, and nothing on, sounds are amplified. I mean no a/c, no pc, no radio, dishwasher, nothing. I've often stood near my daughter's bedroom door when she was little, and listened to the sound of her breathing, or her turning over or kicking off her covers. And noooo, she doesn't breathe LOUD, >.< It's just a sign of how quiet and still things are that you can pick that up.

That being said, somehow I just can't imagine the Anthony household EVER being THAT still! :laugh:

Yes, but was the bedroom door shut? That's the problem right there. I defy anyone to hear a 2 1/2 year old breathe through a closed bedroom door. Unless they snore.

[happy2bme]

I'd like to see George try to hold me up. Do you know what a year of sitting at this computer, eating pork cheesies and drinking merlot can do to a body? :w00t:


ROFL!!!:biggrin:

[happygert]

My money is on George fainting if anyone does, Cindy will attack someone verbally or threaten to soak them with the hose, fainting is not her style,she prefers confrontation.

she likes the ball bat too..

[ish]

8:50 on the timer http://www.wftv.com/video/17565512/index.html Cindy said she usually left for work 7:20 - 7:30 on Monday and Tuesdays. On very rare occasion, Caylee might be awake before she left.

August 4, 2008 interview with George http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4825322/Casey-Anthony-George-Anthony-interview

Page 3 George told LE "generally I'd be up like 7:30, 8:00 in the morning, shortly after my wife would leave and I know maybe like 9 or 10 then that's when Casey and Caylee would come out cause Caylee used to sleep a lot with uh, Casey so or Casey, and Caylee would sleep a lot together. I mean I'd be the one a lot of times giving the little girl her breakfast. You know playing, watching the TV with her a little bit, taking her outside to play uh walking to the mailbox or just..."

Page 9 LE asked who was at the house..if he actually remembered seeing them. George said, "Well, I, I'm, I'm positive that uh, Casey's car was in the driveway and I would be lead to believe then that they were both there, Casey and Caylee, I know my wife was there because I got home just shortly after 11:00. And the next morning, or lets put it this way like 10 minutes to 1 that afternoon on the 16th is when I actually saw Casey and Caylee together, they're both leaving with backpacks and so my daughter said she was going to work and she was taking Caylee to the, to the nanny, to the babysitter. But I know it was 10 minutes to 1 cause I was watching this food channel thing that I watch between noon and 1:00. So I'm positive that, that I know for a dog gone fact." (note - which is George, a nanny or a babysitter?)

On page 11, George said, "...She just set it down and she says, "Hey", she says, "I'm a be working a little bit late, uh, Caylee's gonna be staying with the nanny, I'm gonna come back and stay there and I'll see you and mom tomorrow afternoon." That's not nothing unusual; she's done that a few different times so. She said she already had, he says, "I already talked to mom, mom knows I'm gonna be staying over", I said, "Okay just be careful and I'll see you tomorrow type deal".

No mention of breakfast, putting Caylee in the car or kisses. Casey and Caylee generally got up around 9 or 10, but on the 16th George fed Caylee breakfast at 7:300..around the time Cindy left for work, but she heard them sleeping.

jmo

Cindy is gonna have to work on George, he is just not keeping the story straight at all. How many times does she have to go over this stuff with him, when will he get it, when will it sink into his thick head. Poor Cindy, it all falls on Cindy. It's up to her to get George on the right page. Poor beleaguered Cindy. My advice,, try the truth, much easier to remember, harder to forget. I know it's a novelty but go on, give it a try. Ya never know, it could set you free.

[happygert]

Yes, but was the bedroom door shut? That's the problem right there. I defy anyone to hear a 2 1/2 year old breathe through a closed bedroom door. Unless they snore.

I cant hear my grandson which is 2 sleeping behind his closed door..

[desmom]

When did Cindy say she last saw Caylee? When she said she tucked her and Casey in bed that night? :rolleyes: I remember she said she heard them sleeping the next morning. Why would you even listen? Why check?

jmo

I remembered Cindy saying something about tucking them because I chuckled picturing Cindy tucking in her 22 year old daughter.

According to http://www.newsday.com/topic/orl-caylee2308jul23,0,3355948.story?page=1 it was at the bond hearing.

But in court Tuesday, Cindy Anthony said she now remembers tucking Caylee in with her mother at bedtime on Father's Day, June 15.

[ellegna]

:biggrin: Theyll show anyway

They just might and start some big bru ha ha that no one has the right to organize a memorial for Caylee except family.

[farrahrani]

Yes, but was the bedroom door shut? That's the problem right there. I defy anyone to hear a 2 1/2 year old breathe through a closed bedroom door. Unless they snore.

Oh...well that puts a whole new spin on it :tongue:

[Rapunzel]

Good morning everyone...I knew I shouldn't have done it....I just watched C&G (on video) doing the Early Show...What a nerve she has saying that "she" was responsible for getting the national media involved in the Haleigh Cummings case...As for George staying in the backround, I remember him being front and center...Also, it might have been nice for The Anthonys to join the community tonight for Caylee's vigil....Bless you Caylee RIP..:rose:



They would never ever ever have anything to do with a vigil for Caylee that they did not put on...unless it was to disrupt is that is...

[imc_e]

Sure they will show. Must keep up w/ the new image. Blech

BG

Ya it would be just like them, to attend, open their big fat mouths, and cause a riot.

Yep thats how they would honor Caylee's memory, for sure.

imo