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desmom
06-13-2009, 06:47 AM
One year ago today......Friday, June 13, 2008
Amy sent a text to Casey 6:00 a.m. – 6:15 a.m. regarding their trip to Jacksonville. Casey sent a return text saying she was on the way to the hospital with her dad and she would get back with her. Casey eventually text Amy saying her dad had a mini stroke. Amy rented a car to go to Jacksonville, bought a car, dropped off the rental and returned to Orlando. Casey invited her to go to Fusians that evening. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement
Ricardo returns from Tampa. Casey called Ricardo and invited him to Fusians and told him about her Dad’s mini-stroke. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement
Casey went to Tone’s apartment. They went to Fusians for the hip-hop showcase. Casey spends the night. http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf
Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages
Casey to Amy 06/13 6:16 a.m.: I’m on my way to the hospital with my dad. I’ll call you when I can.
Amy to Casey: Oh, my god. Take care, my prayers are with you.
Casey to Amy 06/13 6:19 a.m.: Thanks love.
Amy to Casey: I was just saying I’m renting a car. Be with your family.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:50 a.m.: My dad almost had a stroke. We are still waiting for him to get checked out. I promise I will call you asap.
Amy to Casey: I love you and call me anyway. Hugs, I hope everything is ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:53 a.m.: I love you too! I’m really sorry about this.
Amy to Casey: Like it was your fault. Things happen. I just want your dad to be ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:55 a.m.: He will be. He just gave my mom and I a huge scare.
Amy to Casey: Good then all is well.
Amy to Casey: 10 keys made. Done.
Casey to Amy 06/13 5:49 p.m.: Awesome.
Amy to Casey: So I have most everything packed. Think I can move it over tom?
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:56 p.m.: Probably tomorrow afternoon. I’ll call you later. Sorry you’re not coming.
Amy to Casey: Me too, it’s just been a long day. And tom will be long too. I have a few things to do still before I can even go to Rics. Just getting it done.
Casey to Amy 06/13 8:10 p.m.: Yeah you have to do it. If you change your mind let me know.
Amy to Casey: Will do. Love you tons. And again I’m so glad your dad is ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 8:12 p.m. Love ya too! I’m glad he’s alright. He’s stubborn.
Originally Posted by Chardonnay
Ok, here's probably another one of my dumb questions, but how does an inmate know what another inmate is in for? For instance, how did someone know KC was arrested for murder? I'm sure she didn't blab to anyone what she's in for, since she's in protective custody. How does word get around? I know inmates watch TV, but how do they know she's in there? tia for being patient with me.
The jail was smart in isolating Casey in the jail. Can you imagine the lies and stories that she could have told to other inmates, had she been allowed access to mingle with them? I'm sure that the jail felt that they could best do "their job" by nipping something like this in the bud. As it turns out, it was a good thing that they did.
chuckles.... Casey may have felt "special" but the I just have to think that loneliness from isolation for long extended periods outweighs any benefit that Casey may have originally felt.
One year ago today......Friday, June 13, 2008
Amy sent a text to Casey 6:00 a.m. – 6:15 a.m. regarding their trip to Jacksonville. Casey sent a return text saying she was on the way to the hospital with her dad and she would get back with her. Casey eventually text Amy saying her dad had a mini stroke. Amy rented a car to go to Jacksonville, bought a car, dropped off the rental and returned to Orlando. Casey invited her to go to Fusians that evening. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement
Ricardo returns from Tampa. Casey called Ricardo and invited him to Fusians and told him about her Dad’s mini-stroke. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement
Casey went to Tone’s apartment. They went to Fusians for the hip-hop showcase. Casey spends the night. http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf
Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages
Casey to Amy 06/13 6:16 a.m.: I’m on my way to the hospital with my dad. I’ll call you when I can.
Amy to Casey: Oh, my god. Take care, my prayers are with you.
Casey to Amy 06/13 6:19 a.m.: Thanks love.
Amy to Casey: I was just saying I’m renting a car. Be with your family.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:50 a.m.: My dad almost had a stroke. We are still waiting for him to get checked out. I promise I will call you asap.
Amy to Casey: I love you and call me anyway. Hugs, I hope everything is ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:53 a.m.: I love you too! I’m really sorry about this.
Amy to Casey: Like it was your fault. Things happen. I just want your dad to be ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:55 a.m.: He will be. He just gave my mom and I a huge scare.
Amy to Casey: Good then all is well.
Amy to Casey: 10 keys made. Done.
Casey to Amy 06/13 5:49 p.m.: Awesome.
Amy to Casey: So I have most everything packed. Think I can move it over tom?
Casey to Amy 06/13 7:56 p.m.: Probably tomorrow afternoon. I’ll call you later. Sorry you’re not coming.
Amy to Casey: Me too, it’s just been a long day. And tom will be long too. I have a few things to do still before I can even go to Rics. Just getting it done.
Casey to Amy 06/13 8:10 p.m.: Yeah you have to do it. If you change your mind let me know.
Amy to Casey: Will do. Love you tons. And again I’m so glad your dad is ok.
Casey to Amy 06/13 8:12 p.m. Love ya too! I’m glad he’s alright. He’s stubborn.
Thanks des. Bolding is mine. What was ths about? The 10 keys and moving?
I got up early today to watch the shuttle launch and the launch has been scrubbed :mad:
imo
Thanks desmom, for all the timeline info from one year ago today! The work that you do to provide this to everyone is very much appreciaated! {{{{{{ desmom }}}}}}
I saw the mention about "10 keys" and can't remember what that was about. Who was Amy making 10 copies of a key for? And, what did the key fit? Is this known?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493
I have several thoughts about this. One, is that it just isn't true. Or, is Casey acting out in order to get the attention that she craves? Isolation must have starved her of the attention that she lives and breathes for. Or, are other immates actually the ones screaming out in the night, CAYLEEEEEEE!!!!
chuckles.... the exercising in her cell could be because Baez has passed on bloggers/news comments to her. Good! Casey has a little bit of a competitive nature, and she could just be determined to try to prove all FLBs wrong, for saying that she has gained weight. Cramming herself into a blouse at least two sizes too small at the last court hearing, could have been her attempt to "show" everyone that she was still a size x-sm. ....we know better LOL
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:37 AM
Thanks des. Bolding is mine. What was ths about? The 10 keys and moving?
I got up early today to watch the shuttle launch and the launch has been scrubbed :mad:
imo
Amy was moving to the Hopespring house...or thought she was moving.
As for the 10 keys...I have no idea. Was there ever a discussion about the 10 keys? :shrug:
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 07:41 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
Amy was moving to the Hopespring house...or thought she was moving.
As for the 10 keys...I have no idea. Was there ever a discussion about the 10 keys? :shrug:
My only memory involving Amy and key, would be Lee telling Amy that he's taken car of disposing of a key (or something like that). Shucks, my memory of that is even faint. ....how would Lee know that the key he took from Casey's belonging belonged to Amy though? And, would this reference that Lee made, be connected in any way to the "10 keys" reference in Amy's txtmsg? I have no idea.
trich
06-13-2009, 07:44 AM
Thanks desmom, for all the timeline info from one year ago today! The work that you do to provide this to everyone is very much appreciaated! {{{{{{ desmom }}}}}}
I saw the mention about "10 keys" and can't remember what that was about. Who was Amy making 10 copies of a key for? And, what did the key fit? Is this known?
I am assuming the keys are for the house...remember Casey told Amy that she was getting the house(her parents were moving and giving Casey the house)
and Amy could move in with her and Caylee.
Amy had actually made a change of address for her mail to Hopespring.
:shrug:
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the saqme situation.
I am going to be sick
Oh Poppycock! Unfair to Casey?
Amy was moving to the Hopespring house...or thought she was moving.
As for the 10 keys...I have no idea. Was there ever a discussion about the 10 keys? :shrug:
Thanks. I had forgotten that the OC had led Amy on about the house right until they day before she was going to move. How cruel imo.
So George "almost had a stroke" But he didn't because he is "stubborn".
imo
BlueHeron
06-13-2009, 07:51 AM
Thanks. I had forgotten that the OC had led Amy on about the house right until they day before she was going to move. How cruel imo.
So George "almost had a stroke" But he didn't because he is "stubborn".
imo
This is really odd IMO. I can see making a few copies of the house key, but why TEN? Who makes 10 copies of their house key? Why would you need that many?
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:51 AM
Thanks desmom, for all the timeline info from one year ago today! The work that you do to provide this to everyone is very much appreciaated! {{{{{{ desmom }}}}}}
I saw the mention about "10 keys" and can't remember what that was about. Who was Amy making 10 copies of a key for? And, what did the key fit? Is this known?
Was it 10 copies of the same key?
Thinking out loud.....
Amy picked up her new used car. Quite often they only come with 1 set of keys. IIRC, Amy's bought a Corolla. Do they have 2 keys - 1 for the ignition and 1 for the trunk? I know they did years ago. If she made a set for Casey and and extra set for herself that would be 4 keys.
Amy was "moving" to the Anthony's house. Would the A's have different keys for the garage door, sun room and exterior doors? That would be 3 keys. ETA ~ If they wanted a spare set to hide in case of a lock out, that would be 6 keys.
jmo
BlueHeron
06-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Was it 10 copies of the same key?
Thinking out loud.....
Amy picked up her new used car. Quite often they only come with 1 set of keys. IIRC, Amy's bought a Corolla. Do they have 2 keys - 1 for the ignition and 1 for the trunk? I know they did years ago. If she made a set for Casey and and extra set for herself that would be 4 keys.
Amy was "moving" to the Anthony's house. Would the A's have different keys for the garage door, sun room and exterior doors? That would be 3 keys. ETA ~ If they wanted a spare set to hide in case of a lock out, that would be 6 keys.
jmo
oh, good point. I was thinking the same key. Maybe she made 2 sets of 5 keys? Still seems weird though...
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:59 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
FGS! Do the "so many unknown facts" also include the 31 days Casey told no one Caylee was missing + all the lies she told to LE + all the lies the A's have told.
They have no problem throwing out Anthonyisms, but they have a problem with the public reading a document and opinion of a professional.
coffee...I need more coffee.....:cursing:
cassidy
06-13-2009, 08:00 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
They'd be hard pressed to find another family in the same situation as theirs. They are indeed unique in that aspect.
JMO
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 08:05 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
The ant are going to push this foundation every chance they can.
They should be stopped!
bchand
06-13-2009, 08:13 AM
Was it 10 copies of the same key?
Thinking out loud.....
Amy picked up her new used car. Quite often they only come with 1 set of keys. IIRC, Amy's bought a Corolla. Do they have 2 keys - 1 for the ignition and 1 for the trunk? I know they did years ago. If she made a set for Casey and and extra set for herself that would be 4 keys.
Amy was "moving" to the Anthony's house. Would the A's have different keys for the garage door, sun room and exterior doors? That would be 3 keys. ETA ~ If they wanted a spare set to hide in case of a lock out, that would be 6 keys.
jmo
IIRC Amy said ALL of her friends had a key to her original car because she kept losing hers. Maybe these were the copies of the keys to the new car.
bchand
06-13-2009, 08:15 AM
FGS! Do the "so many unknown facts" also include the 31 days Casey told no one Caylee was missing + all the lies she told to LE + all the lies the A's have told.
They have no problem throwing out Anthonyisms, but they have a problem with the public reading a document and opinion of a professional.
coffee...I need more coffee.....:cursing:
I watched it before I had my coffee too and was so mad I emailed them and asked them to have Amy Robach get the facts straight.
She said the judge SEALED the autopsy report until the trial and Brad Conway sat there and never bothered to correct her.
msgatorslayer
06-13-2009, 08:22 AM
G'morning, all.
As usual, thanks for the 'one year ago today' posts, Des.
Even if I seen my child as being perfect and honest, seeing text messages like today's would have me questioning my child on why they were lying about these things. If they can lie about these things, well then...
Why would Casey even say she can drive Amy to J'Ville when she can't [no money], or didn't want to because of other engagements. And then lie at the very last moment about being in the hospital with her Dad.
Why did she lead her friend on about moving into her parents house? When it wasn't her house. She allowed Amy to do a change of address card, and also sent something to the Hopespring house. {A camera?}
Amy is ready to move in, TOMMORROW, and Casey is still leading her on like it will happen.
trich
06-13-2009, 08:28 AM
I know I asked this yestesrday but being things were so crazy here I don't remember if anyone had an answer....
This Brandon that Casey supposedly was pregnant by and subsequently miscarried(if and I say if this is to be believed) does anyone know if he went to Iraq , where he is now and has he been interviewed by LE.
I would like to know if he was even aware that Casey might be carrying his child and did he have a clue as to what she was telling friends about he and her making a life together?
Also wonder if there is any proof that she was indeed pregnant and then miscarried.....most woman would have to have gone to a doctor had that happened.
Yeah I know this is about Casey and nothing about her should be considered the norm...but I keep wondering about this situation.
Does anyone remember anything really about Brandon except for what was in Casey's mind.
bchand
06-13-2009, 08:30 AM
I know I asked this yestesrday but being things were so crazy here I don't remember if anyone had an answer....
This Brandon that Casey supposedly was pregnant by and subsequently miscarried(if and I say if this is to be believed) does anyone know if he went to Iraq , where he is now and has he been interviewed by LE.
I would like to know if he was even aware that Casey might be carrying his child and did he have a clue as to what she was telling friends about he and her making a life together?
Also wonder if there is any proof that she was indeed pregnant and then miscarried.....most woman would have to have gone to a doctor had that happened.
Yeah I know this is about Casey and nothing about her should be considered the norm...but I keep wondering about this situation.
Does anyone remember anything really about Brandon except for what was in Casey's mind.
From what I recall from the documents, he never believed she was really pregnant and he has since become engaged to someone else. Casey had a run in with him at a party according to either Annie or Amy and became very upset.
eta: Just found his myspace page. He DID get married.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21322230
Found this in a search -
I went to Brandon Snow's page, he did marry that girl Lejla in Oct., the one he was with when KC got so upset & left the party.
Anyways, I was kinda shocked to see a (new?) name on his friends list...Senaida. And..she seems like she might fit KC's ZG description, very pretty (a 10?), of course, can't tell her height, hair is straight, but who knows if it's "straightened", slightly curled at ends.
Then, another friend *The Jones*, with a baby picture posted. I clicked on it, and turns out the babys name is Zachary...
http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3581916879/m/55719122101
I watched it before I had my coffee too and was so mad I emailed them and asked them to have Amy Robach get the facts straight.
She said the judge SEALED the autopsy report until the trial and Brad Conway sat there and never bothered to correct her.
.....I'm getting the feeling that George and Cindy were scheduled to appear on this show, and for some reason ended up not doing it. Does anyone think like I am thinking?
msgatorslayer
06-13-2009, 08:35 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
I'm inclined to call BS when they say they haven't read the autopsy report. That's my first reaction. I can see Cindy wanting to look for 'clues' that point away from her Daughter.
On second thought, however, I can also see Cindy not wanting to read it. To not allow the facts to taint her mind. If she doesn't read it, it isn't real.
"Unknown facts' I like how they try to spin this. It's as if they have it in their head since the State doesn't know how Caylee died, nobody witnessed Casey harming her, or disposing of her body in the woods, then the murderer can be someone else.
Regarding the OC going insane - this is from the NG show last night:
GRACE: We also learned that tot mom Casey Anthony may be scheming behind bars to mount an insanity defense. We have heard of irrational behavior, mood swings, nightmares, allegedly, and blood-curdling screams coming from her private jail cell.
Let`s go to the lawyers. Bill Sheaffer out of Orlando. Meg Strickler, New York. John Burris, San Francisco.
What about it, Bill?
BILL SHEAFFER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: You`re talking about a woman who killed her daughter and was willing to frame an innocent woman for that murder. Do you not think she`s capable of acting insane in order to try to save her own life? This is nothing more than an after-the-fact attempt to try to avoid the death penalty.
GRACE: Meg?
MEG STRICKLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes. I`ve got to agree with that. If she`s trying to be insane, she should have proved it prior to this incident happening. I mean I don`t really understand. Also she`s in prison. Maybe she`s just going nuts now because she`s realizing what`s the impact of her actions that are going to happen to her now.
GRACE: And to Dr. Patricia Saunders, clinical psychologist, it`s going to take more than some nightmares and some screaming in your jail cell, calling out Caylee`s name, to show an insanity defense.
PATRICIA SAUNDERS, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: For sure. There has to be some indication that the time of the commission of the crime she did not know the difference between right and wrong. We don`t see any of that.
imo
Also wonder if there is any proof that she was indeed pregnant and then miscarried.....most woman would have to have gone to a doctor had that happened.
I have never seen any proof, though I have seen a few references that folks doubted Casey was even pregnant or had miscarried.
bchand
06-13-2009, 08:36 AM
.....I'm getting the feeling that George and Cindy were scheduled to appear on this show, and for some reason ended up not doing it. Does anyone think like I am thinking?
Well the limo that was reported at their house this week wasn't there to take them to a prom. I think they're continuing their PR jaunt "somewhere".
desmom
06-13-2009, 08:40 AM
I know I asked this yestesrday but being things were so crazy here I don't remember if anyone had an answer....
This Brandon that Casey supposedly was pregnant by and subsequently miscarried(if and I say if this is to be believed) does anyone know if he went to Iraq , where he is now and has he been interviewed by LE.
I would like to know if he was even aware that Casey might be carrying his child and did he have a clue as to what she was telling friends about he and her making a life together?
Also wonder if there is any proof that she was indeed pregnant and then miscarried.....most woman would have to have gone to a doctor had that happened.
Yeah I know this is about Casey and nothing about her should be considered the norm...but I keep wondering about this situation.
Does anyone remember anything really about Brandon except for what was in Casey's mind.
Way back in the beginning when message board members were scouring myspace and facebook, I believe someone did post they saw one of Brandon's internet pages and he did spend time in Iraq.
Brandon was at the Anything but Clothes party on May 24 per Amy page 8 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement
jmo
Originally Posted by haveaniceday
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
Unfair to Casey... Conway does realize that he is not a member of the defense team, and if he tries to argue to the Judge about "unfair to Casey" what standing would he have to do that. Is he representing Cindy and George, or is he representing Casey? This argument just makes no sense to me.
trich
06-13-2009, 09:01 AM
Thanks everyone for the info on Brandon.
Isn't it amazing how it certainly does seem that Casey has taken bits and pieces from other people's lives and created her stories believing that most would think it was all fact .
I have to wonder why a person has to make up a whole new life ....
If a person is so unhappy with his or her real life why not actually go out and do something about it instead of pretending.
For instance if Casey was so unhappy with her mom's control over her why didn't she go get a real job and make real money to support her and Caylee and get the heck out of dodge.
Why pretend you are in never never land only to lead to disaster for the very one person you are suppose to love and cherish.
Also let me ask this:
We all know that Casey knew right from wrong , she was not insane when she killed Caylee(more like enraged)....but , just saying now, if in truth she was to go
insane before the trial and can not help in her defense, what happens then?
msgatorslayer
06-13-2009, 09:03 AM
Unfair to Casey... Conway does realize that he is not a member of the defense team, and if he tries to argue to the Judge about "unfair to Casey" what standing would he have to do that. Is he representing Cindy and George, or is he representing Casey? This argument just makes no sense to me.
Cindy is unable to seperate things. It is the State of Florida vs The Anthony's, in her mind. She's just eating the crab puffs while Casey sits in jail.:tongueside:
jakee
06-13-2009, 09:12 AM
G'morning, all.
As usual, thanks for the 'one year ago today' posts, Des.
Even if I seen my child as being perfect and honest, seeing text messages like today's would have me questioning my child on why they were lying about these things. If they can lie about these things, well then...
Why would Casey even say she can drive Amy to J'Ville when she can't [no money], or didn't want to because of other engagements. And then lie at the very last moment about being in the hospital with her Dad.
Why did she lead her friend on about moving into her parents house? When it wasn't her house. She allowed Amy to do a change of address card, and also sent something to the Hopespring house. {A camera?}
Amy is ready to move in, TOMMORROW, and Casey is still leading her on like it will happen.
I never realized Amy was supposed to move in that soon. What was casey's story going to be why she couldn't?
Cindy is unable to seperate things. It is the State of Florida vs The Anthony's, in her mind. She's just eating the crab puffs while Casey sits in jail.:tongueside:
I am wondering if the autopsy report and finding (to include whatever else there is there), might contain something to cause the public to speculate if Cindy and/or George were involved somehow in the disposal or removel of Caylee's body from their backyard. I know that I was a bit surprised to learn that they were whisked off the plane by LE, and fingerprinted shortly thereafter. (even if it were only for print elimination, then that has always led me to believe that some type of prints may have been discovered with the remains).
*MoonRider*
06-13-2009, 09:33 AM
BC on Today show.
Ant, haven;t read autopsy report. They feel that since there are so
many unknown facts, the public will fill in the blanks and that it is speculation and will be unfair to Casey.
The Ant. are dealing as best they can by focusing on the
CMA Foundation to help other families in the same situation.
I am going to be sick
I'm glad I missed the show. :cursing: They just won't stop trying to garner sympathy from the general public. It's all about donations. Wow, they want to help other families whose children kill their children? Why didn't the interviewer ask why they removed the memorial? They are old news and I wish the networks would not give them a platform. grrrrr
I never realized Amy was supposed to move in that soon. What was casey's story going to be why she couldn't?
I think Casey's story was that she "said" that Cindy and George were no longer getting divorced, that they were trying to work it out. At least that is the only reason I think that I have seen.
...Casey story of getting the house, even to asking and planning with Amy to have her move in and pay rent, always have made me wonder if Casey was planning to kill both her parents. Then just got distracted by Tony's attentions to her, and switched gears to pursue him.
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 09:36 AM
I think Casey's story was that she "said" that Cindy and George were no longer getting divorced, that they were trying to work it out. At least that is the only reason I think that I have seen.
...Casey story of getting the house, even to asking and planning with Amy to have her move in and pay rent, always have made me wonder if Casey was planning to kill both her parents. Then just got distracted by Tony's attentions to her, and switched gears to pursue him.
I think you are correct
jakee
06-13-2009, 09:50 AM
I think Casey's story was that she "said" that Cindy and George were no longer getting divorced, that they were trying to work it out. At least that is the only reason I think that I have seen.
...Casey story of getting the house, even to asking and planning with Amy to have her move in and pay rent, always have made me wonder if Casey was planning to kill both her parents. Then just got distracted by Tony's attentions to her, and switched gears to pursue him.
Thanks, I somewhat remember that story now. I too wonder if she was planning terminal events for her parents. I just don't want to believe it.
trich
06-13-2009, 09:51 AM
I was trying to find it...no luck so far.
IMO most of the interviewers never ask the right questions.
Of course I guess they know if they did the Anthonys would
not answer any way.... but I would love to see them squirm on
national tv.
I would love to see them have a hissy fit and walk off ....
It makes me so pissed to see them try and make people
feel sorry for them and how they try to act like they are doing'
something good with their foundation ....foundation my a**.
toadii
06-13-2009, 09:55 AM
I never realized Amy was supposed to move in that soon. What was casey's story going to be why she couldn't?
In Casey's land of make believe, the Ants were separating, George was being kicked to the curb, Cindy was getting a condo and Casey was getting the house.
Casey could then easily parlay George's near stroke leading to a reconciliation between the Ants leaving Casey in the lurch through no fault of her own.
I don't give Casey credit for setting up her lies, for she lies so poorly. She appears to pull whatever from wherever and just keeps jabbering away.
Casey could then pizz and moan to Amy about how Absolutey horrible the situation was but she would not be to blame. MOO, of course.
This was Casey attempt to imitate what a true friend would do to help a friend in need. The benefit to her was basking in the gratitude from Amy, lots of exciting fodder for text messaging and absolutely no effort or follow through from Casey. She, like Amy, could then be a true victim of circumstance.
Originally Posted by Sun
I think Casey's story was that she "said" that Cindy and George were no longer getting divorced, that they were trying to work it out. At least that is the only reason I think that I have seen.
...Casey story of getting the house, even to asking and planning with Amy to have her move in and pay rent, always have made me wonder if Casey was planning to kill both her parents. Then just got distracted by Tony's attentions to her, and switched gears to pursue him.
I think you are correct
And, Tony only wanted boys.
3girls
06-13-2009, 10:23 AM
"Then, another friend *The Jones*, with a baby picture posted. I clicked on it, and turns out the babys name is Zachary"
The Jones Family have a little girl, and they live in Zachary.
101Spots
06-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Wasn't it about this time period that Casey was texting TonE about how he could come over tomorrow or in a couple days, and that her parents would be gone by then?
Or is my CRS kicking in again?
adair
06-13-2009, 10:28 AM
They'd be hard pressed to find another family in the same situation as theirs. They are indeed unique in that aspect.
JMO
Good Morning Everyone!!!
I would have loved if the interviewer asked them to expand on their unique situation...........
...is for children who are missing but not reported missing for 31 days?
...is it for psycho families who murder innocent children?
...is it pathological liars?
...is for people whose daughter allegedly murdered their child?
and the list goes on.
just my own opinion............
adair
06-13-2009, 10:32 AM
Was it 10 copies of the same key?
Thinking out loud.....
Amy picked up her new used car. Quite often they only come with 1 set of keys. IIRC, Amy's bought a Corolla. Do they have 2 keys - 1 for the ignition and 1 for the trunk? I know they did years ago. If she made a set for Casey and and extra set for herself that would be 4 keys.
Amy was "moving" to the Anthony's house. Would the A's have different keys for the garage door, sun room and exterior doors? That would be 3 keys. ETA ~ If they wanted a spare set to hide in case of a lock out, that would be 6 keys.
jmo
.......don't forget the keys to the shed. :rolleyes:
kingfish
06-13-2009, 10:38 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/851674974
Please sign the petition and keep it going!!
101Spots
06-13-2009, 10:39 AM
Oh Gosh...was it Tony L. or Tony R.???
TonE = Tony L.
LOL... Casey had so many guys on her radar, it's nearly impossible to keep all their names straight.
I still remember LE asking Tony R. if he'd "always" used protection. I just wonder if they were trying to give him a hint that if he hadn't, he might want to see a doc.
jakee
06-13-2009, 10:45 AM
In Casey's land of make believe, the Ants were separating, George was being kicked to the curb, Cindy was getting a condo and Casey was getting the house.
Casey could then easily parlay George's near stroke leading to a reconciliation between the Ants leaving Casey in the lurch through no fault of her own.
I don't give Casey credit for setting up her lies, for she lies so poorly. She appears to pull whatever from wherever and just keeps jabbering away.
Casey could then pizz and moan to Amy about how Absolutey horrible the situation was but she would not be to blame. MOO, of course.
This was Casey attempt to imitate what a true friend would do to help a friend in need. The benefit to her was basking in the gratitude from Amy, lots of exciting fodder for text messaging and absolutely no effort or follow through from Casey. She, like Amy, could then be a true victim of circumstance.
I think you may have got it exactly right! Very good post. Poor victim Casey.
crimeq
06-13-2009, 10:47 AM
One year ago today......Friday, June 13, 2008
Amy sent a text to Casey 6:00 a.m. – 6:15 a.m. regarding their trip to Jacksonville. Casey sent a return text saying she was on the way to the hospital with her dad and she would get back with her. Casey eventually text Amy saying her dad had a mini stroke. Amy rented a car to go to Jacksonville, bought a car, dropped off the rental and returned to Orlando. Casey invited her to go to Fusians that evening. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1642949/Huizenga-Amy---Statement
Ricardo returns from Tampa. Casey called Ricardo and invited him to Fusians and told him about her Dad’s mini-stroke. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement
-- Respectfully snipped for space --
The lies just roll right off her tongue and off her fingertips.
She told Amy and Ricardo about George's non-existant stroke. This was the time when she was also telling people her parents were giving her the house, and Amy had already filed a change of address with the USPS to move into the house with her.
Going back to the searches on the computer for chloroform -- was she going to try to murder George in a manner that might be confused as a stroke? I'm not saying chloroform would be that manner -- we may not know everything she looked up -- but it looks like she was setting the stage for George to actually have a stroke.
crimeq
06-13-2009, 10:49 AM
The jail was smart in isolating Casey in the jail. Can you imagine the lies and stories that she could have told to other inmates, had she been allowed access to mingle with them? I'm sure that the jail felt that they could best do "their job" by nipping something like this in the bud. As it turns out, it was a good thing that they did.
chuckles.... Casey may have felt "special" but the I just have to think that loneliness from isolation for long extended periods outweighs any benefit that Casey may have originally felt.
She has her law books to keep her company ....
Are newspapers available in jails?
farrahrani
06-13-2009, 10:53 AM
As far as her lying to other inmates...why would that matter? They'd never believe her. Unless you mean that she would lie about them to each other, and THAT would never last. They'd get together and compare notes, and unlike her nice middle class friendy's that only rolled their eyes and nodded patronizingly and let it slide, these prison mamas will beat her azz.
Unless THAT is what you are referring to her needing protection from. In that case...let her reap what she sows :D
crimeq
06-13-2009, 11:07 AM
Wasn't it about this time period that Casey was texting TonE about how he could come over tomorrow or in a couple days, and that her parents would be gone by then?
Or is my CRS kicking in again?
I remember that too ....
Patty437
06-13-2009, 11:08 AM
I have no doubt, if left out on the streets...Casey could have easily became a serial killer...If she had not been caught in the murder of her daughter...she would have become a Chris Coleman...Drew Peterson...Scott Peterson...all men I know...but I can just see the police showing up one day at Hopeless Spring Dr. with the whole family murdered and Casey the only one left standing with a whole concocted story about some home invasion and she narrowly escaped being harmed.
yeah, i always thought the computer searches for "neck breaking", "household weapons" "how to make chloroform" were intended for G and C. Only problem is, those searches were back in March and the whole Amy thing, at least in text messages, as I recall, wasn't mentioned til may. That doesn't mean they didn't talk about the house becoming Casey's in person before that.
trich
06-13-2009, 11:14 AM
I remember that too ....
Me too!.....
adair
06-13-2009, 11:21 AM
Does anyone know if George or Cindy had any life insurance??
iluvmua
06-13-2009, 11:30 AM
4 more months; what are the chances of Casey's trial getting delayed until 2010?
bchand
06-13-2009, 11:35 AM
4 more months; what are the chances of Casey's trial getting delayed until 2010?
Every time I see someone on TV talking about it, they say "at least" a year from now, so 2010 seems definite.
Patty437
06-13-2009, 11:36 AM
4 more months; what are the chances of Casey's trial getting delayed until 2010?
100%, but at least "gorgeous" is sitting in a cement cage.
bchand
06-13-2009, 11:42 AM
100%, but at least "gorgeous" is sitting in a cement cage.
That's right Patty - another 4th of July party she's missing, another birthday that Caylee is missing, another Christmas, no more of Cindy's chili, just sitting alone in her "dorm".
Sounds good to me.
In Casey's land of make believe, the Ants were separating, George was being kicked to the curb, Cindy was getting a condo and Casey was getting the house.
Casey could then easily parlay George's near stroke leading to a reconciliation between the Ants leaving Casey in the lurch through no fault of her own.
I don't give Casey credit for setting up her lies, for she lies so poorly. She appears to pull whatever from wherever and just keeps jabbering away.
Casey could then pizz and moan to Amy about how Absolutey horrible the situation was but she would not be to blame. MOO, of course.
This was Casey attempt to imitate what a true friend would do to help a friend in need. The benefit to her was basking in the gratitude from Amy, lots of exciting fodder for text messaging and absolutely no effort or follow through from Casey. She, like Amy, could then be a true victim of circumstance.
This is exactly what I believe she did to Kio Marie. I do not believe for one moment that CAsey ever intended on letting Kio adopt, or anyone for that matter, and I do not believe it had anything to do with Cindy not allowing it. I think it had everything to do with Cindy, and anyone she could gain power over with Caylee as leverage. With Amy it was shelter that was promised her, with Kio it was a baby, both were vulnerable and casey was/is a predator.
imo
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 12:02 PM
4 more months; what are the chances of Casey's trial getting delayed until 2010?
I can't remember what show, but a few weeks ago LKB said the trial would be June 2010. :thumbdown:
Dunlurken
06-13-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm curious if anyone thinks the Anthony's should have filed for custody of Caylee? Why didn't they? :confused: I guess hindsight is 20-20, but maybe they didn't know what was actually going on with Caylee and Casey. How they could not know is beyond me..... but, back to my original question, should they have filed for custody?
I don't know if this has already been posted. It is from the foundation website:
Special Events
♥This is the official Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation® website.♥
At this time the Anthony's will not be holding a vigil for Caylee Marie in June. We may be planning one for her birthday in August. The family asks that if you wish to honor her memory to please consider doing so by praying for the thousands of missing children and their families. Please watch the website for further details on upcoming events.
imo
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:06 PM
Was it 10 copies of the same key?
Thinking out loud.....
Amy picked up her new used car. Quite often they only come with 1 set of keys. IIRC, Amy's bought a Corolla. Do they have 2 keys - 1 for the ignition and 1 for the trunk? I know they did years ago. If she made a set for Casey and and extra set for herself that would be 4 keys.
Amy was "moving" to the Anthony's house. Would the A's have different keys for the garage door, sun room and exterior doors? That would be 3 keys. ETA ~ If they wanted a spare set to hide in case of a lock out, that would be 6 keys.
jmo
I wonder if this was part of the "Does she have keys to the house?" conversation between Cindy and Casey in one of those jailhouse videos?
Casey's response was along the lines of, "I TOLD you she did."
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:09 PM
G'morning, all.
As usual, thanks for the 'one year ago today' posts, Des.
Even if I seen my child as being perfect and honest, seeing text messages like today's would have me questioning my child on why they were lying about these things. If they can lie about these things, well then...
Why would Casey even say she can drive Amy to J'Ville when she can't [no money], or didn't want to because of other engagements. And then lie at the very last moment about being in the hospital with her Dad.
Why did she lead her friend on about moving into her parents house? When it wasn't her house. She allowed Amy to do a change of address card, and also sent something to the Hopespring house. {A camera?}
Amy is ready to move in, TOMMORROW, and Casey is still leading her on like it will happen.
It's infuriating. Poor Amy was hooked like a fish, apparently.
How does one "almost" have a stroke, fgs? :cursing:
WillowInFlight
06-13-2009, 12:09 PM
Did I hear right the other night on NG, one of the TH's said that in order for Casey to use the insanity defense she would first have to admit she killed Caylee? What are the chances of that happening if she is wishing the trial is moved to Miami so she can go to the beach when this is all done and over with?
It's infuriating. Poor Amy was hooked like a fish, apparently.
How does one "almost" have a stroke, fgs? :cursing:
And the reason that he was OK is because he is "stubborn".
It was a miracle!!!:wink:
imo
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:13 PM
I'm inclined to call BS when they say they haven't read the autopsy report. That's my first reaction. I can see Cindy wanting to look for 'clues' that point away from her Daughter.
On second thought, however, I can also see Cindy not wanting to read it. To not allow the facts to taint her mind. If she doesn't read it, it isn't real.
"Unknown facts' I like how they try to spin this. It's as if they have it in their head since the State doesn't know how Caylee died, nobody witnessed Casey harming her, or disposing of her body in the woods, then the murderer can be someone else.
As soon as that report is released (and I have faith it will be, so don't let me down, Judge Strickland :glare:) and the TH's have weighed in, I expect to see a presser or *impromptu* media interview with Cindy in which she calls Dr. G a hack.
I mean, she canceled their appearance on Oprah for reasons of "integrity," presumably Oprah's, fgs.
Did I hear right the other night on NG, one of the TH's said that in order for Casey to use the insanity defense she would first have to admit she killed Caylee? What are the chances of that happening if she is wishing the trial is moved to Miami so she can go to the beach when this is all done and over with?
That's what they said Willow. I am hoping the nightmares aren't being made up and she is really being haunted by what she did to that poor little girl. imo.
imo
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Am I the only one bothered with them having the American Flag outside. JMO
cassidy
06-13-2009, 12:19 PM
Good Morning Everyone!!!
I would have loved if the interviewer asked them to expand on their unique situation...........
...is for children who are missing but not reported missing for 31 days?
...is it for psycho families who murder innocent children?
...is it pathological liars?
...is for people whose daughter allegedly murdered their child?
and the list goes on.
just my own opinion............
In order to be in a situation like theirs, it would have to be all of the above and more. I don't think there is another family like that out there, at least I hope there isn't.
JMO
Am I the only one bothered with them having the American Flag outside. JMO
The Ant's?
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:22 PM
The Ant's?
Yes sorry, how come what's in my head doesn't make it to the keyboard:blushing:
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:22 PM
And, Tony only wanted boys.
Tony admitted to messing with Casey ... deliberately saying things to her to get her riled up ...
I suspect his "I only want boys" remark was one of those times. I mean, he knew Casey had a daughter. What kind of a thing is that to say, really, to your girlfriend who has a baby daughter. So ... I think he was messing with her ... teasing her to get a rise out of her, but perhaps subconsciously also hoping to get her to back off a little.
I bet Tony regrets that particular remark.
WillowInFlight
06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
That's what they said Willow. I am hoping the nightmares aren't being made up and she is really being haunted by what she did to that poor little girl. imo.
imo
That was my first thought, Is Casey being haunted knowing it's the one year anniversary? I would like to think so, but then I remember her smiling and batting her doe eyes every time she appeared in court. I think the only thing that is haunting Casey is the fact that it's summer and she can't hit the club scene. I think she has, does and will continue to blame Caylee for "making" Casey kill her.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:24 PM
Wasn't it about this time period that Casey was texting TonE about how he could come over tomorrow or in a couple days, and that her parents would be gone by then?
Or is my CRS kicking in again?
Yep, around the same time.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:29 PM
I'm curious if anyone thinks the Anthony's should have filed for custody of Caylee? Why didn't they? :confused: I guess hindsight is 20-20, but maybe they didn't know what was actually going on with Caylee and Casey. How they could not know is beyond me..... but, back to my original question, should they have filed for custody?
Imo, it might have saved her life if they did.
Unfortunately, she would've been raised by Cindy and George. And we've seen how well that works out.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:30 PM
Am I the only one bothered with them having the American Flag outside. JMO
You're the only one who can see it. :laugh:
*MoonRider*
06-13-2009, 12:32 PM
Call me crazy, but I just watched Cindy at the bond hearing again. She goes on and on without answering the question being asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJahpYnVC0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8C444A61435F6E2E&index=0&playnext=1
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:33 PM
You're the only one who can see it. :laugh:
:blushing: but I am sharing
Am I the only one bothered with them having the American Flag outside. JMO
Casey isn't around to steal it this year. Would you rather see the flag on a flag pole, or on Casey?
I've struggled greatly with knowing that the Anthonys are doing everything that they can think of to distract all attention from Casey, and to point the blame for the death of Caylee on someone else. Not a single thing that they have done is geared towards Justice for little Caylee. Their grandaughter...though Cindy seemed to treat her like and call Caylee "her daughter" at times. And, they fully support the killer. Just unbelieveable.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Imo, it might have saved her life if they did.
Unfortunately, she would've been raised by Cindy and George. And we've seen how well that works out.
Hindsight IS 20/20.....Maybe even better
<good Morning everyone>
raised by cindy and george certainly is NO IDEAL....but then ALIVE is still better off than dead.....ALIVE caylee would have had the chance to live out HER dreams and desires.....to possibly do her part to better her little piece of the world....
caylee MAY have turned out just like Casey...but at LEAST she would have been given THE CHANCE....
Another thing is that IF George and cindy had been able to raise Caylee.....they would have been older and more settled and PERHAPS have been better parents.....
We see these people as they are now....some of it is their own doings but some is the HORRIFIC circumstances.....
Despicable and mean and hateful is what we see....but IF they had been allowed the chance to raise caylee things MAY have been different......no way to know.
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Call me crazy, but I just watched Cindy at the bond hearing again. She goes on and on without answering the question being asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJahpYnVC0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8C444A61435F6E2E&index=0&playnext=1
CRAZY:tonguewag:
Call me crazy, but I just watched Cindy at the bond hearing again. She goes on and on without answering the question being asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJahpYnVC0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8C444A61435F6E2E&index=0&playnext=1
Moon - I don't think you are the crazy one.....
imo
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Moon - I don't think you are the crazy one.....
imo
when cindy doesnt want to answer or cindy doesnt want to give the CORRECT AND TRUTHFUL answer.....she rambles.....
bchand
06-13-2009, 12:38 PM
Moon - I don't think you are the crazy one.....
imo
Well I'll have to think about that. Moon DID rewatch Cindy.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 12:39 PM
Well I'll have to think about that. Moon DID rewatch Cindy.
Shes not crazy.....just practicing her character-building skills.....Or perhaps trying to train her gag reflex ...???
bchand
06-13-2009, 12:41 PM
Am I the only one bothered with them having the American Flag outside. JMO
Well tomorrow IS flag day. Maybe they have plans and put it out early?
(You know they believe this tragedy brought America together right? I didn't realize we were separated.)
Call me crazy, but I just watched Cindy at the bond hearing again. She goes on and on without answering the question being asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJahpYnVC0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8C444A61435F6E2E&index=0&playnext=1
Cindy won't be allowed to testify in that manner during the trial. LDB most likely didn't object much, for the testimony that Cindy gave can be used later on when the trial takes place. Sometime tiny details that come out, can hurt when the bigger picture becomes clear.
What I notice mostly, is Cindy "grooming" and "touching" herself, it is so creepy.
Thanks so much for that link! It contains lots of the testimony in a playlist
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Well tomorrow IS flag day. Maybe they have plans and put it out early?
(You know they believe this tragedy brought America together right? I didn't realize we were separated.)
It is wow who knew. I think it did bring America together on what is wrong with world...No responsibility for your actions. At least that is what I learned
*MoonRider*
06-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Cindy won't be allowed to testify in that manner during the trial. LDB most likely didn't object much, for the testimony that Cindy gave can be used later on when the trial takes place. Sometime tiny details that come out, can hurt when the bigger picture becomes clear.
What I notice mostly, is Cindy "grooming" and "touching" herself, it is so creepy.
Thanks so much for that link! It contains lots of the testimony in a playlist
Like Mother, Like Daughter. What a creepy family. imo
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:50 PM
I woke up thinking about the autopsy report and Dr. G's "strong opinion." And I was remembering conversation here yesterday evening about how perhaps a *bombshell* in the report is a description of how the duct tape was wrapped around Caylee's little head, perhaps even being the murder weapon, causing suffocation.
So I had a thought ... and I'm sure this comes from watching too many crime shows ... but here it is ...
I wonder if the state had a cast made of Caylee's head to test (and at some point, demonstrate) how the duct tape was applied? It would be very powerful, imo.
Call me crazy, but I just watched Cindy at the bond hearing again. She goes on and on without answering the question being asked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJahpYnVC0Q&feature=PlayList&p=8C444A61435F6E2E&index=0&playnext=1
And, here is a link to the interview Cindy gave when heading out of the courtroom when the bond hearing was over. It is one of my favorites.
http://www.truveo.com/Cindy-Anthony-speaks-to-reporters-after-bond/id/1031594907
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:52 PM
:blushing: but I am sharing
... and we so appreciate you sharing. :wub:
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 12:53 PM
Here's a video I ran across.. The part where Caylee is dancing alone, (right after where she and OC are playing) why doesn't the person taking the video interact with her? I find it sad. And hearing Papa at the end singing to Caylee, is just precious. I wonder if Papa was told the truth about what happened to Caylee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUXPEBeapc
really3997
06-13-2009, 12:54 PM
... and we so appreciate you sharing. :wub:
Thanks, I emailed channel 9 about the crime scene beginning to flood. I don't know if they will do anything but at least they know
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 12:56 PM
Hindsight IS 20/20.....Maybe even better
<good Morning everyone>
raised by cindy and george certainly is NO IDEAL....but then ALIVE is still better off than dead.....ALIVE caylee would have had the chance to live out HER dreams and desires.....to possibly do her part to better her little piece of the world....
caylee MAY have turned out just like Casey...but at LEAST she would have been given THE CHANCE....
Another thing is that IF George and cindy had been able to raise Caylee.....they would have been older and more settled and PERHAPS have been better parents.....
We see these people as they are now....some of it is their own doings but some is the HORRIFIC circumstances.....
Despicable and mean and hateful is what we see....but IF they had been allowed the chance to raise caylee things MAY have been different......no way to know.
I think Cindy and George would not have changed one single, solitary thing in raising Caylee. I firmly believe that. Nothing that has transpired has moved them one inch in the direction of personal accountability. They are what they are.
If Caylee had been allowed to live, it would have been up to Caylee, alone, to overcome her upbringing.
As soon as that report is released (and I have faith it will be, so don't let me down, Judge Strickland :glare:) and the TH's have weighed in, I expect to see a presser or *impromptu* media interview with Cindy in which she calls Dr. G a hack.
I mean, she canceled their appearance on Oprah for reasons of "integrity," presumably Oprah's, fgs.
You are so right. It will then be time to start attacking Dr. G.
*MoonRider*
06-13-2009, 12:59 PM
And, here is a link to the interview Cindy gave when heading out of the courtroom when the bond hearing was over. It is one of my favorites.
http://www.truveo.com/Cindy-Anthony-speaks-to-reporters-after-bond/id/1031594907
It's the ole I'm a Nurse of Decomposition. :laugh: George has been trying to shut her up for nearly a year now.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 12:59 PM
I think Cindy and George would not have changed one single, solitary thing in raising Caylee. I firmly believe that. Nothing that has transpired has moved them one inch in the direction of personal accountability. They are what they are.
If Caylee had been allowed to live, it would have been up to Caylee, alone, to overcome her upbringing.
Youre probably right....I guess I am naiive...I would like to think that even the smallest change in a persons circumstances can bring about life-altering .....I know that personally I have had MINOR things (like chance meetings and befriending of certain people) change my outlook about certain things.....I was kinda hoping (although it would do no good now)
Tony admitted to messing with Casey ... deliberately saying things to her to get her riled up ...
I suspect his "I only want boys" remark was one of those times. I mean, he knew Casey had a daughter. What kind of a thing is that to say, really, to your girlfriend who has a baby daughter. So ... I think he was messing with her ... teasing her to get a rise out of her, but perhaps subconsciously also hoping to get her to back off a little.
I bet Tony regrets that particular remark.
ITA. Tony had no idea just what Casey had on her mind.
bchand
06-13-2009, 01:01 PM
I think Cindy and George would not have changed one single, solitary thing in raising Caylee. I firmly believe that. Nothing that has transpired has moved them one inch in the direction of personal accountability. They are what they are.
If Caylee had been allowed to live, it would have been up to Caylee, alone, to overcome her upbringing.
And I believe, as she grew up, BOTH of them would use her against the other.
How sad.
speculation on how Caylee died. Considering the duct tape, I wonder if Casey could have wrapped the duct tape aroung Caylee's nose and mouth, put the sticker on it, wrapped her in the bags and I am squeamish to even say this, but could she have dumped Caylee there while she was still alive? Was caylee smothered by the tape or unable to get out of the bags and suffocated. I mean there are no visible means of telling how she died, no broken bones or wounds, my guess is strangled or smothered perhaps while sedated. if she killed her the night of the 15 going into the 16th she didn't have a lot of time and she couldn't make a lot of noise. I've never believed George's story of seeing them leave and his perfect description of their clothing on the 9th. revised to the 16th when video of Caylee surfaced with the GGP. Unless you are one of those idiot savants and George I believe is just a regular idiot, no one remembers 31 days later what two people were wearing on one particular day that at the time had no special significance.
happygert
06-13-2009, 01:06 PM
speculation on how Caylee died. Considering the duct tape, I wonder if Casey could have wrapped the duct tape aroung Caylee's nose and mouth, put the sticker on it, wrapped her in the bags and I am squeamish to even say this, but could she have dumped Caylee there while she was still alive? Was caylee smothered by the tape or unable to get out of the bags and suffocated. I mean there are no visible means of telling how she died, no broken bones or wounds, my guess is strangled or smothered perhaps while sedated. if she killed her the night of the 15 going into the 16th she didn't have a lot of time and she couldn't make a lot of noise. I've never believed George's story of seeing them leave and his perfect description of their clothing on the 9th. revised to the 16th when video of Caylee surfaced with the GGP. Unless you are one of those idiot savants and George I believe is just a regular idiot, no one remembers 31 days later what two people were wearing on one particular day that at the time had no special significance.
No imo she didnt dump Caylee while she was alive.. The smell of the car and decomp found in car..
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:08 PM
speculation on how Caylee died. Considering the duct tape, I wonder if Casey could have wrapped the duct tape aroung Caylee's nose and mouth, put the sticker on it, wrapped her in the bags and I am squeamish to even say this, but could she have dumped Caylee there while she was still alive? Was caylee smothered by the tape or unable to get out of the bags and suffocated. I mean there are no visible means of telling how she died, no broken bones or wounds, my guess is strangled or smothered perhaps while sedated. if she killed her the night of the 15 going into the 16th she didn't have a lot of time and she couldn't make a lot of noise. I've never believed George's story of seeing them leave and his perfect description of their clothing on the 9th. revised to the 16th when video of Caylee surfaced with the GGP. Unless you are one of those idiot savants and George I believe is just a regular idiot, no one remembers 31 days later what two people were wearing on one particular day that at the time had no special significance.
My bold >>> :lol:
ITA. George's very precise recollection of what Gorgeous and That Little Girl were wearing a month earlier is highly suspect ... especially from a member of a group that can't nail down simple dates to save their lives. And especially when contrasted with how much George didn't know or couldn't remember per his Morgan depo.
Can't have it both ways, George. Either you're curious, informed, involved, and have great recall for all the little details ... or you're Clueless George per the depo. Pick a lane and stay in it. :sneaky:
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:09 PM
No imo she didnt dump Caylee while she was alive.. The smell of the car and decomp found in car..
Oops. Good point, gert.
desmom
06-13-2009, 01:12 PM
Wasn't it about this time period that Casey was texting TonE about how he could come over tomorrow or in a couple days, and that her parents would be gone by then?
Or is my CRS kicking in again?
I forgot about those. I guess I should have included them with one year today posts.
The conversation took place through instant messaging the evening of June 10. The conversation begins in the middle of page 2 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4770482/IM-History-with-L7Tone .
On page 4,
casey o marie (10:39:22 pm.) "only a few more days, and you can bring your *** over here anytime you want, and stay whenever you want."
casey o marie (10:49:07 p.m.) "baby trust me. in a couple of days, **** 3 days to be exact, the place is mine all mine, and we can do as we please."
page 5
casey o marie (10:57:36 p.m.) well, then friday, i'll just happen to stay over, and saturday, you'll just happen to come by, at 1am, after you lab, and crash here."
It was interesting reading. Casey told Tone on page 2 at 10:16 p.m. "my trip to puerto rico should be a fun one". When Tone asks "y", Casey im back "looks like ricardo is coming." and then the conversation got interesting imo.
Patty437
06-13-2009, 01:13 PM
speculation on how Caylee died. Considering the duct tape, I wonder if Casey could have wrapped the duct tape aroung Caylee's nose and mouth, put the sticker on it, wrapped her in the bags and I am squeamish to even say this, but could she have dumped Caylee there while she was still alive? Was caylee smothered by the tape or unable to get out of the bags and suffocated. I mean there are no visible means of telling how she died, no broken bones or wounds, my guess is strangled or smothered perhaps while sedated. if she killed her the night of the 15 going into the 16th she didn't have a lot of time and she couldn't make a lot of noise. I've never believed George's story of seeing them leave and his perfect description of their clothing on the 9th. revised to the 16th when video of Caylee surfaced with the GGP. Unless you are one of those idiot savants and George I believe is just a regular idiot, no one remembers 31 days later what two people were wearing on one particular day that at the time had no special significance.
I'm still thinking that Caylee's death was an accident. Casey, I'm sure, was plenty PO'd when she left on Father's Day, the day of the big fight with Cindy. I think she taped her mouth to shut her up after a "chloroform baby sitter" was applied. Still think the computer searches were for C and G. I will admit I flip flop on this all the time.
really3997
06-13-2009, 01:17 PM
It's the ole I'm a Nurse of Decomposition. :laugh: George has been trying to shut her up for nearly a year now.
I guessing a lot longer if you asked me
No imo she didnt dump Caylee while she was alive.. The smell of the car and decomp found in car..
totally forgot about that!!!
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:19 PM
Youre probably right....I guess I am naiive...I would like to think that even the smallest change in a persons circumstances can bring about life-altering .....I know that personally I have had MINOR things (like chance meetings and befriending of certain people) change my outlook about certain things.....I was kinda hoping (although it would do no good now)
As much as I find the A's to be shameful, despicable people, I did have some small hope the reality of what happened to little Caylee would soften their hearts and just generally be a point of transition for them, turning them from what they were into, well ... better people.
From what I've seen, the murder of their precious granddaughter, presumably at the hands of their daughter, has turned them into full blown monsters.
happygert
06-13-2009, 01:23 PM
totally forgot about that!!!
I'm sure her attorneys , c&g and casey are hoping everyone including the prosecution will forget about that.. Thats one thing they are never going to be able to explain away.. especially since mommy and daddy said they smelled decomp in casey's car..Going to be interesting when they are asked about that..
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:23 PM
I'm still thinking that Caylee's death was an accident. Casey, I'm sure, was plenty PO'd when she left on Father's Day, the day of the big fight with Cindy. I think she taped her mouth to shut her up after a "chloroform baby sitter" was applied. Still think the computer searches were for C and G. I will admit I flip flop on this all the time.
I have trouble moving off the accident dime, myself. It's just so hard to imagine anyone, much less her own mother, premeditating Caylee's murder.
But there's a reason the state put the DP back on the table. And it wasn't, imo, as the defense would like us to believe ... a mere strategy. They've got the goods on Casey. imo
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:26 PM
I'm sure her attorneys , c&g and casey are hoping everyone including the prosecution will forget about that.. Thats one thing they are never going to be able to explain away.. especially since mommy and daddy said they smelled decomp in casey's car..Going to be interesting when they are asked about that..
And of course the defense will dispute the Body Farm results, call them "junk science" and so forth.
That's why I hope the car itself is presented as evidence. If it's closed up in storage in good old hot, humid Florida, I'm sure it will still reek, even if the trial is a year or two away.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:30 PM
I forgot about those. I guess I should have included them with one year today posts.
The conversation took place through instant messaging the evening of June 10. The conversation begins in the middle of page 2 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4770482/IM-History-with-L7Tone .
On page 4,
casey o marie (10:39:22 pm.) "only a few more days, and you can bring your *** over here anytime you want, and stay whenever you want."
casey o marie (10:49:07 p.m.) "baby trust me. in a couple of days, **** 3 days to be exact, the place is mine all mine, and we can do as we please."
page 5
casey o marie (10:57:36 p.m.) well, then friday, i'll just happen to stay over, and saturday, you'll just happen to come by, at 1am, after you lab, and crash here."
It was interesting reading. Casey told Tone on page 2 at 10:16 p.m. "my trip to puerto rico should be a fun one". When Tone asks "y", Casey im back "looks like ricardo is coming." and then the conversation got interesting imo.
What a horrible person she is.
I could forgive anger at her parents. But what did her friends do to deserve the games she ran on them? What did Amy Huizenga ever do to Casey other than be her good friend?
happygert
06-13-2009, 01:30 PM
And of course the defense will dispute the Body Farm results, call them "junk science" and so forth.
That's why I hope the car itself is presented as evidence. If it's closed up in storage in good old hot, humid Florida, I'm sure it will still reek, even if the trial is a year or two away.
They will call it junk science no doubt.. But..The maggot evidence has not yet been released IMO they are keeping that evidence for the very last.. I'm sure there will be Caylee's dna from the maggots.. Old cooked "pizza" does not attrack maggots.. IMO the DA's have the ace in the hole from the maggots..
happygert
06-13-2009, 01:37 PM
And of course the defense will dispute the Body Farm results, call them "junk science" and so forth.
That's why I hope the car itself is presented as evidence. If it's closed up in storage in good old hot, humid Florida, I'm sure it will still reek, even if the trial is a year or two away.
The smell will never go away..Had a friend who was killed in car accident. Labor day weekend in IL wasn't as hot as it gets in FL. he was killed on friday didn't find him until tuesday .The smell gets right into the metal of the car..
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 01:41 PM
I have trouble moving off the accident dime, myself. It's just so hard to imagine anyone, much less her own mother, premeditating Caylee's murder.
But there's a reason the state put the DP back on the table. And it wasn't, imo, as the defense would like us to believe ... a mere strategy. They've got the goods on the Casey. imo
I don't have a hard time imagining someone doing that -- not at all. Planned and premeditated. People kill each other, and kill their children, a lot. :sad: We hear about it all the time, and through history, mothers have murdered their children. I remember reading about Medea in Greek mythology, who in one version, killed (ate?) her children, and women who murdered their children are sometimes said to have a Medea Complex.
It's horrible, but these women don't feel anything like mother-love toward their children. Murdering them is like murdering anyone else. Which is loathsome in and of itself, but somehow less shocking than a woman not loving and protecting her children, but instead murdering them.
Pregnancy and birth to some is just a blip on their radar screen of life, they feel nothing toward the little human they produce, and that's just the way it is, so I'm not shocked. Saddened, but not shocked.
In a perfect world, children born to mothers who have no feelings of mother-love -- they'd be put up for adoption, to women who will love and protect them.
But it's not a perfect world.
And that's why we're here, trying to figure out and make sense of the sad, sad story of Caylee Anthony.
:rose:
poor baby
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Well tomorrow IS flag day. Maybe they have plans and put it out early?
(You know they believe this tragedy brought America together right? I didn't realize we were separated.)
She's a regular Abraham Lincoln, that woman. :laugh:
adair
06-13-2009, 01:48 PM
One of the first things that happens when filing for third party custody is a Guardian Ad Litum is appointed. Had a GAL visited the Anthony home a few times and did all the interviews of friends and relatives, Caylee would most likely been put in a foster home with the dysfunction in that household. On top of that Cindy and George would have been thoroughly scrutanized before they would have been allowed custody. Does anyone think Cindy would have stood for that?
It is very time consuming, difficult and expensive (and especially in this case) to file for custody of a child from a mother. Most courts favor the mother. In this case they probably wouldn't have but one never knows. I believe Caylee would have been placed in foster care away from all the Anthonys. Then Caylee might still be here today.
.....if that would have happened, a lot of kc lies would have been exposed...employment, nanny etc.............
jmo..moo
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 01:49 PM
And I believe, as she grew up, BOTH of them would use her against the other.
How sad.
If cindy and casey would have been using caylee against each other
IMAGINE the "advantage" caylee would have gotten. strategy would have been to get what she could out of the two who were CONSTANTLY trying to one-up each other.....If they wanted to be "the better woman' then PROVIDE me with this, that or the other........Im sure she would have played them like they were musical instruments and because of their arrogance they would not have recognized the situation for what it would have been....PATHETIC.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:51 PM
If cindy and casey would have been using caylee against each other
IMAGINE the "advantage" caylee would have gotten. strategy would have been to get what she could out of the two who were CONSTANTLY trying to one-up each other.....If they wanted to be "the better woman' then PROVIDE me with this, that or the other........Im sure she would have played them like they were musical instruments and because of their arrogance they would not have recognized the situation for what it would have been....PATHETIC.
... and Caylee would have learned manipulation before she learned to read.
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 01:55 PM
What does prolly mean?
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:56 PM
What does prolly mean?
It's short for probably.
happygert
06-13-2009, 01:56 PM
What does prolly mean?
probably.......
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 01:56 PM
What does prolly mean?
It means "probably."
:smile:
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 01:57 PM
We all love a question we can answer in this case! :laugh:
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 01:57 PM
probably.......
Thanks you all
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Wow.
And people often say you can't get an answer to a question around here.
:wink:
imc_e
06-13-2009, 01:59 PM
... and Caylee would have learned manipulation before she learned to read.
The dysfunction, personality disorders, fighting etc.. was ruining Caylee.
They DID ruin Caylee.
In the end, it killed her.
farrahrani
06-13-2009, 02:01 PM
One of the first things that happens when filing for third party custody is a Guardian Ad Litum is appointed. Had a GAL visited the Anthony home a few times and did all the interviews of friends and relatives, Caylee would most likely been put in a foster home with the dysfunction in that household. On top of that Cindy and George would have been thoroughly scrutanized before they would have been allowed custody. Does anyone think Cindy would have stood for that?
It is very time consuming, difficult and expensive (and especially in this case) to file for custody of a child from a mother. Most courts favor the mother. In this case they probably wouldn't have but one never knows. I believe Caylee would have been placed in foster care away from all the Anthonys. Then Caylee might still be here today.
I have to tell you, when I was a teen I lived with 'working' foster parents. Not mine, but I had seen a lot of cases flying in and out of that house. From what I saw, it takes a LOT to get a child removed from their parents.
Caylee was NOT being physically abused, from what we have seen. If she was, it was hidden very very well. Her mom not having a job really isn't enough to make her lose custody. It's hard times, lots of people are out of work. Not owning her own property isn't enough either. If everyone knows she is living with her parents, and they are kicking her out without notice, it reflects badly on C&G, NOT on Casey. She will just say she's staying at a friend's place and that will be it. It will be reduced to 'hesaid/shesaid' and nobody will 'win'
If anything, Casey might be able to claim mental anguish and really get out from under their thumb, get into a temporary shelter with her kid, and make them seek supervised visitation. You never know how things work out sometimes, no matter what your plans are. The Guardian ad Litem might very well be sympathetic to the parents, but the judge is the one who has to make the final decision, and I've seen MANY judges disreguard their wishes based on how nicely the bio parent cleans themself up, speaks well for themselves and comes prepared. Especially when there are no claims of physical abuse.
The foster care system is overclogged with horribly abused children that need to be away from their parents. These children suffer in ways that I cannot describe here. I really doubt any judge would throw Caylee into that system, when there is no evidence of anything other than the typical family feuding going on, on the surface.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 02:01 PM
One of the first things that happens when filing for third party custody is a Guardian Ad Litum is appointed. Had a GAL visited the Anthony home a few times and did all the interviews of friends and relatives, Caylee would most likely been put in a foster home with the dysfunction in that household. On top of that Cindy and George would have been thoroughly scrutanized before they would have been allowed custody. Does anyone think Cindy would have stood for that?
It is very time consuming, difficult and expensive (and especially in this case) to file for custody of a child from a mother. Most courts favor the mother. In this case they probably wouldn't have but one never knows. I believe Caylee would have been placed in foster care away from all the Anthonys. Then Caylee might still be here today.
the problem there is scrutiny or not....unless youve killed someone or done drugs it is possible to get custody of a child....Sad but true...in many cases "mobster types"(for lack of a better word) have gotten custody of children....Total flakes can get custody or RETAIN custody (you cant hold a persons beliefs against them in a custody issue in court).....
It is a scary prospect...
It is easy to become a foster parent too...(I have seen some really strange people become foster parents....(go through the background check and take the classes required)....
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 02:04 PM
:crying: Today is June 13th.
This time last year, Caylee was alive.
:crying:
this time last year.....the next few days.....must have been just HORRIBLE.....save for her time with Poppa and her GGmother....
:crying:
imc_e
06-13-2009, 02:05 PM
I have to tell you, when I was a teen I lived with 'working' foster parents. Not mine, but I had seen a lot of cases flying in and out of that house. From what I saw, it takes a LOT to get a child removed from their parents.
Caylee was NOT being physically abused, from what we have seen. If she was, it was hidden very very well. Her mom not having a job really isn't enough to make her lose custody. It's hard times, lots of people are out of work. Not owning her own property isn't enough either. If everyone knows she is living with her parents, and they are kicking her out without notice, it reflects badly on C&G, NOT on Casey. She will just say she's staying at a friend's place and that will be it. It will be reduced to 'hesaid/shesaid' and nobody will 'win'
If anything, Casey might be able to claim mental anguish and really get out from under their thumb, get into a temporary shelter with her kid, and make them seek supervised visitation. You never know how things work out sometimes, no matter what your plans are. The Guardian ad Litem might very well be sympathetic to the parents, but the judge is the one who has to make the final decision, and I've seen MANY judges disreguard their wishes based on how nicely the bio parent cleans themself up, speaks well for themselves and comes prepared. Especially when there are no claims of physical abuse.
The foster care system is overclogged with horribly abused children that need to be away from their parents. These children suffer in ways that I cannot describe here. I really doubt any judge would throw Caylee into that system, when there is no evidence of anything other than the typical family feuding going on, on the surface.
What I understand is that physical abuse would HAVE to include broken bones, cigarette burns, that type of thing.
The courts do not recognize mental or emotional abuse of a child.
After all, its not illegal to have personality disorders.
The child has no rights, the abusive Mother has the flag.
JMO
adair
06-13-2009, 02:18 PM
And, here is a link to the interview Cindy gave when heading out of the courtroom when the bond hearing was over. It is one of my favorites.
http://www.truveo.com/Cindy-Anthony-speaks-to-reporters-after-bond/id/1031594907
Cindy is a nurse of decomposition???
I dont know how many bodies that nurse cindy has worked on that have in a trunk for days with the ambient temperature being in the 90 degree area........
She also states she has receipts of where kc has been for the last 2 weeks, but the investigators do not want them...
...and her and her family, along with jb are the only ones looking for Caylee. She is a head case.
jmo moo
bchand
06-13-2009, 02:20 PM
She's a regular Abraham Lincoln, that woman. :laugh:
lol Lavinia. My husband just said Yeah they brought America together alright, everyone wants to be sure Casey gets convicted.
WillowInFlight
06-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Today is June 13th.
This time last year, Caylee was alive.
:crying:
this time last year.....the next few days.....must have been just HORRIBLE.....save for her time with Poppa and her GGmother....
:crying:
I know, it's all I have been able to think about all day.:crying:
adair
06-13-2009, 02:23 PM
It's the ole I'm a Nurse of Decomposition. :laugh: George has been trying to shut her up for nearly a year now.
lol I just posted about the same thing......
I am behind, and trying to keep catching up but i find something that i want to make a comment about, around and around we go......lol
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 02:28 PM
I know, it's all I have been able to think about all day.:crying:
And she only had three more days to live.
That's what just gives me chills.
Oh to be able to see down the road ... the future.
Could have stopped it?
I think only for a while.
Inevitable.
:crying:
WillowInFlight
06-13-2009, 02:35 PM
And she only had three more days to live.
That's what just gives me chills.
Oh to be able to see down the road ... the future.
Could have stopped it?
I think only for a while.
Inevitable.
:crying:
ITA, it would have only been stopped for a while, I firmly believe that Casey hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee. And poor Caylee paid the price for that hate.
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 02:51 PM
I just got through eating a few Ritz crackers, and got to thinking. Why didn't G&C go straight to the crime scene area after coming back from LKL, instead of going to the Ritz to eat dinner? If it were me, I'd be at the crime scene wanting to talk to LE. I know they couldn't get near it, but at least be down there. jmo
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 02:52 PM
lol Lavinia. My husband just said Yeah they brought America together alright, everyone wants to be sure Casey gets convicted.
LOL! On THAT America is unified! :patriot:
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 03:17 PM
I just got through eating a few Ritz crackers, and got to thinking. Why didn't G&C go straight to the crime scene area after coming back from LKL, instead of going to the Ritz to eat dinner? If it were me, I'd be at the crime scene wanting to talk to LE. I know they couldn't get near it, but at least be down there. jmo
I would have been AT the crime scene and no Sherrif, FBI or attack dog would have kept me away.....Just the way I am I guess....and I would have been DEMANDING to know what they knew....
but then thats just me
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 03:21 PM
GMTA Celtic... Nothing could keep me away either. Made me think they knew it was Caylee.
LordMisRule
06-13-2009, 03:26 PM
I just got through eating a few Ritz crackers, and got to thinking. Why didn't G&C go straight to the crime scene area after coming back from LKL, instead of going to the Ritz to eat dinner? If it were me, I'd be at the crime scene wanting to talk to LE. I know they couldn't get near it, but at least be down there. jmo
I think they knew it was Caylee, so they held a pow wow to try to determine their next step. I think they knew she was dead before she was found. Once Caylee was found, instead of going into grieving, they were trying to figure out how to get Casey out of this.
JMO
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 03:27 PM
What I understand is that physical abuse would HAVE to include broken bones, cigarette burns, that type of thing.
The courts do not recognize mental or emotional abuse of a child.
After all, its not illegal to have personality disorders.
The child has no rights, the abusive Mother has the flag.
JMO
Exactly right. Which may be why so many children suffer and die at the hands of their parents.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 03:32 PM
I would have been AT the crime scene and no Sherrif, FBI or attack dog would have kept me away.....Just the way I am I guess....and I would have been DEMANDING to know what they knew....
but then thats just me
Their behavior on December 11th is bizarre ... even for them. Off to the Ritz they go. Rooms for their PI's. Nice dinner with attorneys, Kidfinders, a TV network. The next day or two still camped out at the Ritz.
Meanwhile, back at the medical examiner's office ... :crying:
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 03:38 PM
I think they knew it was Caylee, so they held a pow wow to try to determine their next step. I think they knew she was dead before she was found. Once Caylee was found, instead of going into grieving, they were trying to figure out how to get Casey out of this.
JMO
And they're still trying to figure out how to get her out of this.. After all they know now, and ALL the lies, they are still defending her. :cursing:
Patty437
06-13-2009, 03:40 PM
Their behavior on December 11th is bizarre ... even for them. Off to the Ritz they go. Rooms for their PI's. Nice dinner with attorneys, Kidfinders, a TV network. The next day or two still camped out at the Ritz.
Meanwhile, back at the medical examiner's office ... :crying:
I totally agree that behavior is beyond bizaare. I've always been more blown away by the behavior on the day they found the car, smelled the smell, saw their stuff in the car, didn't know where Casey and Caylee were, didn't call 911 and the topper....Cindy went back to work.
happygert
06-13-2009, 03:52 PM
I just got through eating a few Ritz crackers, and got to thinking. Why didn't G&C go straight to the crime scene area after coming back from LKL, instead of going to the Ritz to eat dinner? If it were me, I'd be at the crime scene wanting to talk to LE. I know they couldn't get near it, but at least be down there. jmo
I would have been there as soon as I could get there..
Yes I've wondered that too. But , they already knew.. .IMO thats why they didnt go there.. They were most likely pi$$ed off cause dc didnt find her..
happygert
06-13-2009, 03:59 PM
I totally agree that behavior is beyond bizaare. I've always been more blown away by the behavior on the day they found the car, smelled the smell, saw their stuff in the car, didn't know where Casey and Caylee were, didn't call 911 and the topper....Cindy went back to work.
Yes but she only went for a little while.. IMO she already knew Caylee was dead.. Remember on the one 911 call.. She told casey I'm not giving you one more day I've already gave you 30.. IMO I think cindy already knew that Caylee wasn't with casey all that time she knew something...jmo..
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:04 PM
GMTA Celtic... Nothing could keep me away either. Made me think they knew it was Caylee.
sure they did.. they knew where she was at or they wouldn't have sent dc there looking for her.. jb would not have told him not to call police if he found her..
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Yes but she only went for a little while.. IMO she already knew Caylee was dead.. Remember on the one 911 call.. She told casey I'm not giving you one more day I've already gave you 30.. IMO I think cindy already knew that Caylee wasn't with casey all that time she knew something...jmo..
She didn't know who could have been dead. She didn't talk to Casey until after she left work and found Amy's number in the car and traced Casey to Tony's apt. Remember one of Cindy's co workers told LE Cindy had mentioned "the nanny" several times before anything happened the 15th of july.
Imperfect4
06-13-2009, 04:11 PM
I totally agree that behavior is beyond bizaare. I've always been more blown away by the behavior on the day they found the car, smelled the smell, saw their stuff in the car, didn't know where Casey and Caylee were, didn't call 911 and the topper....Cindy went back to work.
Yep. The covering for Casey was so ingrained it had become an automatic reaction, no matter the situation. Their first response upon smelling the car, and surely adding 2 plus 2, was not to move heaven and earth to find Caylee. Their first response was to get the death car into the garage so no one outside the family could smell it, and to clean things from the car and possibly the car itself, and to go in to work.
It seemed no matter what had happened to Caylee, the first order of business was to clean up after Casey and then play the usual game with her, trying to get the truth out of her. There might have been a moment or two when fear for Caylee took over, but despite that, the primary motivation seems to have been to cover for Casey.
Even though they were used to covering for Casey, you would think Caylee's disappearance would be the straw that broke the camel's back. You would think it would be at that point G&C would say, "No more."
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 04:14 PM
Their behavior on December 11th is bizarre ... even for them. Off to the Ritz they go. Rooms for their PI's. Nice dinner with attorneys, Kidfinders, a TV network. The next day or two still camped out at the Ritz.
Meanwhile, back at the medical examiner's office ... :crying:
Those despicable evil spawns of the devil KNEW that it was Caylees remains....They KNEW that her remains were somewhere THERE long before that day.....They KNEW that BEFORE dominic casey was out there "finding nothing".....and I believe that he could have possibly FOUND the remains.....just didnt video THAT part of his little expedition.....I think that not only did they KNOW but they had him video FINDING NOTHING for a REASON......
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:19 PM
Those despicable evil spawns of the devil KNEW that it was Caylees remains....They KNEW that her remains were somewhere THERE long before that day.....They KNEW that BEFORE dominic casey was out there "finding nothing".....and I believe that he could have possibly FOUND the remains.....just didnt video THAT part of his little expedition.....I think that not only did they KNOW but they had him video FINDING NOTHING for a REASON......
I agree absolutely they knew. Question is, how did they know. There's no way the OC would admit to anyone that she did it and dumped that baby there. Did Lee pull that place out of his a$$? Makes me sick every time I think about Casey telling G&C at the jail visit: "I feel in my gut she's close to home".
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 04:25 PM
I agree absolutely they knew. Question is, how did they know. There's no way the OC would admit to anyone that she did it and dumped that baby there. Did Lee pull that place out of his a$$? Makes me sick every time I think about Casey telling G&C at the jail visit: "I feel in my gut she's close to home".
my bold
That sentence gets more sick and disgusting sounding each time I read it or remember her saying it.
...just KC Anthony's idea of a little joke, I guess.
:cursing:
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:31 PM
She didn't know who could have been dead. She didn't talk to Casey until after she left work and found Amy's number in the car and traced Casey to Tony's apt. Remember one of Cindy's co workers told LE Cindy had mentioned "the nanny" several times before anything happened the 15th of july.
Well she had supposedly talked and text casey several times the only one she didn't talk to or see was Caylee.. casey was also at the house.so that only leaves Caylee...
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:32 PM
my bold
That sentence gets more sick and disgusting sounding each time I read it or remember her saying it.
...just KC Anthony's idea of a little joke, I guess.
:cursing:
Surely G&C remember her saying that at the jail,,,wonder how they reconcile that statement yet still contend she's innocent.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 04:33 PM
I just got through eating a few Ritz crackers, and got to thinking. Why didn't G&C go straight to the crime scene area after coming back from LKL, instead of going to the Ritz to eat dinner? If it were me, I'd be at the crime scene wanting to talk to LE. I know they couldn't get near it, but at least be down there. jmo
Hi! :smile: I love the mental association between your crackers and the big dinner at the Ritz the night LE was laboring over the crime scene. I think they couldn't pass up the free fine dining plus they knew it was Caylee. Still though I'd think there would've been some outward signs of emotion, but maybe that's just lacking in this family. MOO
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Surely G&C remember her saying that at the jail,,,wonder how they reconcile that statement yet still contend she's innocent.
If you listen to that tape closely she says shes close to "HOPE" not home..IMO that was her telling Lee where she was..HOPESPRINGS DRIVE
sunstar
06-13-2009, 04:39 PM
I agree absolutely they knew. Question is, how did they know. There's no way the OC would admit to anyone that she did it and dumped that baby there. Did Lee pull that place out of his a$$? Makes me sick every time I think about Casey telling G&C at the jail visit: "I feel in my gut she's close to home".
I don't think Casey has ever admitted to anyone what she did to Caylee or where her remains were ~ except her roundabout way of talking in code to brother Lee plus KioMarie's statements about the hangout and adding it together they figured out where Caylee was. MOO
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:39 PM
If you listen to that tape closely she says shes close to "HOPE" not home..IMO that was her telling Lee where she was..HOPESPRINGS DRIVE
That's a new one on me. Nancy's played that tape many times and I never noticed that. I thought she was talking to G&C when that statement was made.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 04:41 PM
I would have been there as soon as I could get there..
Yes I've wondered that too. But , they already knew.. .IMO thats why they didnt go there.. They were most likely pi$$ed off cause dc didnt find her..
I STILL believe that DC DID find her remains....and I believe the whole point of his VID was to show that (or attempt to show that) SODDI ....by showing that her remains were NOT there before.....
Didn't work though.....now did it...
adair
06-13-2009, 04:41 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0612/19734761.pdf
I give up I have been trying to copy and paste ...and it giving me fits!!!!
On Page 34-35
George describes to JW what ZFG looks like....
short brown hair, greenish/brown eyes, 5'6-5'7, and a real nice dresser.
Also describes car as a toyota fusion?
This woman also says that she has a pillow, or pillow case that smelled really bad, really bad...(i wonder where this is now) And I wonder if the pillow case matched any of those at the A's home it had a rip in it, she ripped it open, did not find anything.....she also has a cigarette butt that she collected. I cannot tell where they are interviewing her.
She had brought some photos that she took to the detective who interviewed her, John Allen.
She also says that she offered the pixs to JB but he was rude to her on the phone so she did not give him a copy of them.
jmo..mooo
Dick Tracy
06-13-2009, 04:42 PM
I agree absolutely they knew. Question is, how did they know. There's no way the OC would admit to anyone that she did it and dumped that baby there. Did Lee pull that place out of his a$$? Makes me sick every time I think about Casey telling G&C at the jail visit: "I feel in my gut she's close to home".
We know for a fact that only the PRP knew the location of Caylee Marie's decomposing remains. She eventually communicated that location indirectly to someone. Who? Lee? Her Lawyer? Did someone have to play a game of 20 questions with her to get an approximate location? She wouldn't admit to it, but she would probably give it up that way. I can see her doing that.
Somewhere you are familiar with?
Answer: Absolutely.
Somewhere close to home?
Answer: Oh yes. Absolutely.
And on and on and on.
By 8/11, Roy Kronk knew where the body was. I do not believe he stumbled upon it. He knew. How? What's a meter reader doing in the woods? In that location? Roy Kronk got that information from someone. Who?
sunstar
06-13-2009, 04:43 PM
That's a new one on me. Nancy's played that tape many times and I never noticed that. I thought she was talking to G&C when that statement was made.
No, it was the convo where she was talking in code to Lee, trying to steer him in that direction. I don't think she wanted Caylee found but rather wanted him to make sure she was never found. MOO
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:47 PM
That's a new one on me. Nancy's played that tape many times and I never noticed that. I thought she was talking to G&C when that statement was made.
Listen to it..NG IMO didnt pick up on it .. But it' there.. listen to it again..
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:48 PM
I STILL believe that DC DID find her remains....and I believe the whole point of his VID was to show that (or attempt to show that) SODDI ....by showing that her remains were NOT there before.....
Didn't work though.....now did it...
I think he was sent to find her remove her body and hide it where no one would ever find her. IMO cindy thought if they didnt find the body casey would walk..
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:49 PM
We know for a fact that only the PRP knew the location of Caylee Marie's decomposing remains. She eventually communicated that location indirectly to someone. Who? Lee? Her Lawyer? Did someone have to play a game of 20 questions with her to get an approximate location? She wouldn't admit to it, but she would probably give it up that way. I can see her doing that.
Somewhere you are familiar with?
Answer: Absolutely.
Somewhere close to home?
Answer: Oh yes. Absolutely.
And on and on and on.
By 8/11, Roy Kronk knew where the body was. I do not believe he stumbled upon it. He knew. How? What's a meter reader doing in the woods? In that location? Roy Kronk got that information from someone. Who?
There is no way RK just stumbled on the site, I agree. Didn't Lenny say he was/is dating someone at the jail?
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:51 PM
No, it was the convo where she was talking in code to Lee, trying to steer him in that direction. I don't think she wanted Caylee found but rather wanted him to make sure she was never found. MOO
I totally agree.. if he would have found her they would have done something and no one would ever find her..Just one more cover up for casey from mommy and daddy..
Patty437
06-13-2009, 04:52 PM
Listen to it..NG IMO didnt pick up on it .. But it' there.. listen to it again..
I absolutely believe you. I wonder if the anthony family referred to the home address as "hope" just kinda shortening it and Lee immediately knew what she meant.
happygert
06-13-2009, 04:57 PM
We know for a fact that only the PRP knew the location of Caylee Marie's decomposing remains. She eventually communicated that location indirectly to someone. Who? Lee? Her Lawyer? Did someone have to play a game of 20 questions with her to get an approximate location? She wouldn't admit to it, but she would probably give it up that way. I can see her doing that.
Somewhere you are familiar with?
Answer: Absolutely.
Somewhere close to home?
Answer: Oh yes. Absolutely.
And on and on and on.
By 8/11, Roy Kronk knew where the body was. I do not believe he stumbled upon it. He knew. How? What's a meter reader doing in the woods? In that location? Roy Kronk got that information from someone. Who?
DickTracy listen to the jailhouse tape of casey and Lee where casey starts rambling about others asking her about Caylee and she says she still feels she close to Hope she doesnt say home..Caylee was found on HopeSprings drive and chickasaw..IMO she was telling lee..
Pruddennce
06-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Cindy is a nurse of decomposition???
I dont know how many bodies that nurse cindy has worked on that have in a trunk for days with the ambient temperature being in the 90 degree area........
She also states she has receipts of where kc has been for the last 2 weeks, but the investigators do not want them...
...and her and her family, along with jb are the only ones looking for Caylee. She is a head case.
jmo moo
Cindy wanted to hand over 'selective' receipts. they wanted the account statements.......she didnt turn them over after being asked repeatedly to do so. (thus, identifying for LE her level of cooperation, they would need a warrant if they didnt willingly turn them over)..... first she says to YM in her interview, Ive checked it (Pennys), there is nothing on it.......
Yuri calls her on it and says 'we know she has been all over the place with the card".... (Cindy didnt know they had a video from JC Penny of her and Tony)...after Yuri's response, she then lays blame on Lee, SECONDS LATER after saying there was nothing on them. LEE HAS THEM, he was supposed to give them to you.
pack of wolves. all of them.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
I agree absolutely they knew. Question is, how did they know. There's no way the OC would admit to anyone that she did it and dumped that baby there. Did Lee pull that place out of his a$$? Makes me sick every time I think about Casey telling G&C at the jail visit: "I feel in my gut she's close to home".
Did you all know that DCasey and Baez met with Casey in the jail on August 8, 2008.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/14/parents_to_visit_casey_anthony.html
Private Investigators Visit Casey
Friday, August 15, 2008 5:26:38 PM
ORLANDO -- While most of Casey Anthony's visitors have either been family members or her attorney, News 13 has uncovered two other men, who visited her behind bars, are actually private investigators.
Jail records show on July 25, Casey got a visit from Edward Phlegar, who is an investigator for her attorney Jose Baez's law firm.
Casey Dominic, another private investigator for Baez, visited Casey on Aug. 8.
News 13 tried to get a comment Thursday from Baez about what his private investigators might be doing on the case. However, our requests for interviews were declined.
Earlier this week, George Anthony said "private people" were doing surveillance on the people thinks kidnapped his granddaughter.
happygert
06-13-2009, 05:08 PM
I absolutely believe you. I wonder if the anthony family referred to the home address as "hope" just kinda shortening it and Lee immediately knew what she meant.
I 'm guessing all that code talk they were doing they have done it many times in the past, just in case mommy was listening at the door..IMO cindy hearing casey telling lee was not the first time she had her hear to the door...
sunstar
06-13-2009, 05:08 PM
I totally agree.. if he would have found her they would have done something and no one would ever find her..Just one more cover up for casey from mommy and daddy..
He probably was scared to go over there himself for fear of the media or LE spotting him so that's where the PIs came into the picture. Just MOO
happygert
06-13-2009, 05:12 PM
He probably was scared to go over there himself for fear of the media or LE spotting him so that's where the PIs came into the picture. Just MOO
Your probably right.. Lee was probably afraid she blame him for Caylee's murder too..lee also more then likely knew where casey buried her other pets and partied when she was under age..c&g probably knew where she buried them too..
MiamiNice1
06-13-2009, 05:15 PM
I totally agree that behavior is beyond bizaare. I've always been more blown away by the behavior on the day they found the car, smelled the smell, saw their stuff in the car, didn't know where Casey and Caylee were, didn't call 911 and the topper....Cindy went back to work.
ITA. Even Marc Klaas has had enough of the Anthonys!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/12/ng.01.html
GRACE: Let`s go out to Marc Klaas, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation. Marc, weigh in. Weigh in on the grandparents convincing a judge to block the release of what could be a 35-page autopsy report? Typically there may be two to five pages.
MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I don`t believe that there`s anything that will be too upsetting to the Anthonys. They`ve already convinced themselves that the odor of decomposition in the trunk of the car was nothing more than a pizza.
I think they`re in a position to convince themselves of anything. They`re in such a heavy state of denial. But I also believe that every move they make, every breath they take, is designed to do one of two things. Deflect attention away from their daughter and/or find somebody else to throw under the bus as the person responsible for having committed the crime against little Caylee.
crimeq
06-13-2009, 05:37 PM
Listen to it..NG IMO didnt pick up on it .. But it' there.. listen to it again..
Re: Casey saying "hope" vs. "home" -- I think it probably was "home". Her articulation isn't the greatest, for example, how she pronounces "frushtrated". Her nose could also have been stopped up (making her a Big Snotface) -- it sounded like she was pronouncing through a cold, perhaps.
desmom
06-13-2009, 05:38 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0612/19734761.pdf
I give up I have been trying to copy and paste ...and it giving me fits!!!!
On Page 34-35
George describes to JW what ZFG looks like....
short brown hair, greenish/brown eyes, 5'6-5'7, and a real nice dresser.
Also describes car as a toyota fusion?
This woman also says that she has a pillow, or pillow case that smelled really bad, really bad...(i wonder where this is now) And I wonder if the pillow case matched any of those at the A's home it had a rip in it, she ripped it open, did not find anything.....she also has a cigarette butt that she collected. I cannot tell where they are interviewing her.
She had brought some photos that she took to the detective who interviewed her, John Allen.
She also says that she offered the pixs to JB but he was rude to her on the phone so she did not give him a copy of them.
jmo..mooo
No one in the A family can agree on the nanny's description:
In Cindy's depo re: the civil suit, she pointed at ZG and said, "She not 25 years old. She's not 5'7". She's not 140 pounds. She doesn't have black hair. She doesn't have perfect teeth. She's not a ten." (page 81 http://www.forthepeople.com/CAnthony-Depo.pdf )
In George's depo re the civil suit, he said, "Number one is the Zanny that my daughter described to me is 24 to 25 years old, about 5 foot 7, 125, 130 pounds. She had straight white teeth, long brown hair. On a scale of one to ten, she's a ten, supposedly." ( page 26 http://www.forthepeople.com/GAnthony-Depo.pdf )
sunstar
06-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Your probably right.. Lee was probably afraid she blame him for Caylee's murder too..lee also more then likely knew where casey buried her other pets and partied when she was under age..c&g probably knew where she buried them too..
I hadn't thought of him being blamed by Casey for the murder, but he definitely could've been named an accomplice if he were caught there by LE. :scared: MOO
crimeq
06-13-2009, 05:39 PM
I think he was sent to find her remove her body and hide it where no one would ever find her. IMO cindy thought if they didnt find the body casey would walk..
She may well have been told that would be the case. If Jose Baez was playing along with this, I'm sure that's what he was telling Casey and Cindy.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 05:41 PM
ITA. Even Marc Klaas has had enough of the Anthonys!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/12/ng.01.html
GRACE: Let`s go out to Marc Klaas, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation. Marc, weigh in. Weigh in on the grandparents convincing a judge to block the release of what could be a 35-page autopsy report? Typically there may be two to five pages.
MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: I don`t believe that there`s anything that will be too upsetting to the Anthonys. They`ve already convinced themselves that the odor of decomposition in the trunk of the car was nothing more than a pizza.
I think they`re in a position to convince themselves of anything. They`re in such a heavy state of denial. But I also believe that every move they make, every breath they take, is designed to do one of two things. Deflect attention away from their daughter and/or find somebody else to throw under the bus as the person responsible for having committed the crime against little Caylee.
I heard him say that! It's priceless! It appears he never has been able to figure out why they seemed so unconcerned about Caylee's welfare when it was still thought she might be alive, and then after her remains were found, how they still support Casey. MOO
sunstar
06-13-2009, 05:44 PM
She may well have been told that would be the case. If Jose Baez was playing along with this, I'm sure that's what he was telling Casey and Cindy.
He may have told them that Casey wouldn't be convicted of murder if Caylee weren't found. I believe that's what he's still doing now, splitting hairs, when he says Casey is innocent. He might mean innocent of premeditated murder. :shrug: MOO
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 05:46 PM
I think he was sent to find her remove her body and hide it where no one would ever find her. IMO cindy thought if they didnt find the body casey would walk..
I dont think he was sent to remove the body (nor would he if he knew ANYTHING about forensics)....all he would have to do to end up in deep **** would be to accidentally leave evidence that there.....1 was a body there at one time 2. leave evidence that HE himself was there....or 3. for SOMEBODY (anybody) to SEE him doing the dastardly deed.
then.....add that to beint connected to the victims "grandparents"
Oh how I wish that Jose, the Anthonys and CONWAY would get OUTED for what they are!!....What they have been DOING ....the TRUTH....
MiamiNice1
06-13-2009, 05:48 PM
I heard him say that! It's priceless! It appears he never has been able to figure out why they seemed so unconcerned about Caylee's welfare when it was still thought she might be alive, and then after her remains were found, how they still support Casey. MOO
Yes, I couldn't believe it when I heard him.....it was almost like he had read all the comments here. I really respect how up until that symposium, he was sympathetic, then after hearing the other side of the comments, changed his opinion.
imo
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 05:58 PM
That's a new one on me. Nancy's played that tape many times and I never noticed that. I thought she was talking to G&C when that statement was made.
I remember I think hearing it and seeing her say it on those taped jail visits between the OC and George and Cindy.
Maybe it was Lee's visit?
:confused:
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 06:03 PM
Re: Casey saying "hope" vs. "home" -- I think it probably was "home". Her articulation isn't the greatest, for example, how she pronounces "frushtrated". Her nose could also have been stopped up (making her a Big Snotface) -- it sounded like she was pronouncing through a cold, perhaps.
Yes, that's what I recall thinking, that she had a pluggy nose. Home will sound like Hope if your nose is stuffed up.
Either way, it's the same place.
Pruddennce
06-13-2009, 06:04 PM
this is the most disgusting way to describe 'a missing loved one"....a little toddler, supposedly BELOVED by the grandparents....
referencing little Caylee "AS A BODY"....
http://www.wftv.com/news/17937636/detail.html
11/8/08
But Thursday, Cindy Anthony told Eyewitness News she's holding on to hope.
"No one's brought me a body. No one's proven that she's dead. I'm not gonna give up on someone that I love that easy. And if I did, then what kind of person would I be? I'm not that person," she said (full interview).
now she's PROVEN to be dead. what kind of person does CA perceive herself to be now...
IMO, the same old deceitful arrogant individual who chose to coverup a crime against a child, rather than hand authorities Casey's head on a platter the MOMENT she smelled the car. she was too busy arguing with the towyard office about MONEY to focus on the horrendous situation unfolding......
goes back to work.....
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:06 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
desmom
06-13-2009, 06:13 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
Would Caylee's medical records be included in Dr. G's autopsy reports? :shrug:
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:15 PM
Would Caylee's medical records be included in Dr. G's autopsy reports? :shrug:
Not ordinarily, desmom.
TunaMelt
06-13-2009, 06:15 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
I think the live in nurse of decomposition handled any illness, as best as possible. She had access to meds, she's the type to take them.
At two, Caylee should have had immunizations. Maybe the Bad Nurse told the Child's Mother to take her to some clinic, clinics give free immunizations. And maybe KC did, and maybe she didn't.
Or Cindy would immunize her herself. I hate to think of vaccines getting out there like that, but Cindy's got balls and she's not afraid to use them, so to speak, LOL.
Being a nurse would be very convenient for a person like Cindy, who's got no ethics, none that are at all apparent anyhow.
:mellow::mad:
trich
06-13-2009, 06:15 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
I have often wondered about that myself.
I know there are privacy laws....
I wonder though if the prosecutors have all that info
and there is nothing that pretains to her murder.
But I would think the defense would want to present facts
that they have Caylee's medical records and they show that she was in no way abused and she had her regular checkups etc. to try and claim
what a good mother Casey was.
Pruddennce
06-13-2009, 06:19 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
the only mention is from Cindy during the family services interview: and she is a liar. she sat there while Casey lied about having a job at Universal, back to the original lie (this was August)....Casey and her were busily dissing LE.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-11/43228283.PDF
currrent on all of her shots; in the 100% percentile in 'ages and stages'...
outside corroboration from the pediatrician, none that I could find.
But Im sure the pediatrician will be called at trial at some point.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence.....*
desmom
06-13-2009, 06:24 PM
Not ordinarily, desmom.
Thanks. :seeya:
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 06:27 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
I don;t think they had insurance for her. Therefore it would cost money, which they did not have, to send Caylee to a DR.
Nurse Rachett could do it all herself
sunstar
06-13-2009, 06:28 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
I think Cindy served as Caylee's pediatrician. :smile: Couldn't Caylee have gotten shots from a clinic without having her own doctor? MOO
frances1
06-13-2009, 06:33 PM
But didn't Cindy say she paid all Caylee's medical bills? And what about Casey's delivery at the hospital? Who paid for that?
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
For some reason the name Dr. Silva popped up in my mind, when trying to remember about who Casey "said" was the doctor that she always took Caylee to. My memory is usually not so good for details or names, but does this name sound familiar to anyone else? I could be completely wrong.
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 06:36 PM
But didn't Cindy say she paid all Caylee's medical bills? And what about Casey's delivery at the hospital? Who paid for that?
I don't have a link, but there was one interview where Cindy stated Casey had insurance for the birth.
the only mention is from Cindy during the family services interview: and she is a liar. she sat there while Casey lied about having a job at Universal, back to the original lie (this was August)....Casey and her were busily dissing LE.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-11/43228283.PDF
currrent on all of her shots; in the 100% percentile in 'ages and stages'...
outside corroboration from the pediatrician, none that I could find.
But Im sure the pediatrician will be called at trial at some point.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence.....*
I think that somewhere in this DCF report, that Casey said that Caylee first had Blue Cross and then was switched to Cigna. No mention was made (by Casey) that any insurance that Casey may have had on Caylee, would likely have been terminated when she was fired in Apr 2006.
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:40 PM
It would be highly unusual for Cindy to have had access to the usual array of pediatric immunizations in the work environment she was in. It would be absolutely FOOLISH to act as a Dr. to your own granddaughter, no matter if she had access or not. Caylee obviously wasn't in any kind of institution such as school or daycare that would by law, see that she was up to date on her immunizations, so they may have forgone that, but surely she had at least some "well baby" checks and at least a couple of common childhood illnesses which necessitated medical care? I feel like I was a bang up nurse, but I would work on my own family way LESS than anyone else's.
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 06:41 PM
For some reason the name Dr. Silva popped up in my mind, when trying to remember about who Casey "said" was the doctor that she always took Caylee to. My memory is usually not so good for details or names, but does this name sound familiar to anyone else? I could be completely wrong.
There is a Dr. Silva in Orlando who is a pediatrician..
http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/Dr-Miguel-Silva-MD-8DCF51E0.cfm
desmom
06-13-2009, 06:43 PM
I don't have a link, but there was one interview where Cindy stated Casey had insurance for the birth.
Do we know how many hours Casey was working? If she was not full time, I doubt she had insurance. It could be another Cindyism. jmo
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:43 PM
It would be highly unusual for Cindy to have had access to the usual array of pediatric immunizations in the work environment she was in. It would be absolutely FOOLISH to act as a Dr. to your own granddaughter, no matter if she had access or not. Caylee obviously wasn't in any kind of institution such as school or daycare that would by law, see that she was up to date on her immunizations, so they may have forgone that, but surely she had at least some "well baby" checks and at least a couple of common childhood illnesses which necessitated medical care? I feel like I was a bang up nurse, but I would work on my own family way LESS than anyone else's.
ETA: Shouldn't Caylee have qualified under MediCaid coverage?
ETA again: I guess I realize my own answer to that question about medicaid. She had a JOB so she couldn't do medicaid, right? LOL.
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 06:47 PM
Do we know how many hours Casey was working? If she was not full time, I doubt she had insurance. It could be another Cindyism. jmo
I just don't remember the details. She had stated something like Casey had ins for the birth in response to a question of employment. Wish I could remember.
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:47 PM
For some reason the name Dr. Silva popped up in my mind, when trying to remember about who Casey "said" was the doctor that she always took Caylee to. My memory is usually not so good for details or names, but does this name sound familiar to anyone else? I could be completely wrong.
I don't recall it, but that doesn't mean anything, Sun.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Do we know how many hours Casey was working? If she was not full time, I doubt she had insurance. It could be another Cindyism. jmo
Maybe she was on Medicaid for the pregnancy. MOO
sunstar
06-13-2009, 06:51 PM
(respectfully snipped)
ETA again: I guess I realize my own answer to that question about medicaid. She had a JOB so she couldn't do medicaid, right? LOL.
If the job wasn't full time or didn't offer her insurance I think she could've qualified while pregnant. Or she could still have been covered under Cindy's insurance if she was living at home, but that usually applies if the 19 y/o "child" is also a student. MOO
seeing_eye
06-13-2009, 06:51 PM
But didn't Cindy say she paid all Caylee's medical bills? And what about Casey's delivery at the hospital? Who paid for that?
Didn't Cindy say in her myspace diatribe on July 3rd that she had paid all the medical bills for Caylee? 'Course, guess just because she wrote it in black and white doesn't necessarily make it true.
FallenAngel♥
06-13-2009, 06:53 PM
Didn't Cindy say in her myspace diatribe on July 3rd that she had paid all the medical bills for Caylee? 'Course, guess just because she wrote it in black and white doesn't necessarily make it true.
yessssssssss she did tell that fable story.
haveaniceday
06-13-2009, 06:54 PM
yessssssssss she did tell that fable story.
She also said Caylee was never sick
need2no
06-13-2009, 06:54 PM
I don't have a link, but there was one interview where Cindy stated Casey had insurance for the birth.
I also remember this, it was very early in the case...Cindy said casey's coverage through her employer paid ALL the expenses for Caylee's birth. It struck me as odd considering the type of employment she had...a contract job at Universal Studios. It might have been a bit easier to believe if she had been employed directly by US.
IIRC there was an interview with casey's boss, Mike Kozak (I think) stating casey was in a management training program, and had worked for him for 5-6 months. Wow...she was some kind of lucky if they did pay all her medical expenses.
Didn't Rick say Cindy worked for a highly respected orthopaedic doctor when they first came to Orlando?
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 06:54 PM
If the job wasn't full time or didn't offer her insurance I think she could've qualified while pregnant. Or she could still have been covered under Cindy's insurance if she was living at home, but that usually applies if the 19 y/o "child" is also a student. MOO
Yeah, but if she applied, that might have opened up a whole new can of worms about her lying about working to her parents. She would have to admit she couldn't come up with the W-2's, 1040's, etc., etc to document her eligibility. I imagine she just said she was at a job without benefits and let the medicaid go rather than possibly uncover her lies, IMO.
desmom
06-13-2009, 06:54 PM
I just don't remember the details. She had stated something like Casey had ins for the birth in response to a question of employment. Wish I could remember.
I remember it also. It may have been during the bond hearing.
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 06:57 PM
I also remember this, it was very early in the case...Cindy said casey's coverage through her employer paid ALL the expenses for Caylee's birth. It struck me as odd considering the type of employment she had...a contract job at Universal Studios. It might have been a bit easier to believe if she had been employed directly by US.
IIRC there was an interview with casey's boss, Mike Kozak (I think) stating casey was in a management training program, and had worked for him for 5-6 months. Wow...she was some kind of lucky if they did pay all her medical expenses.
Didn't Rick say Cindy worked for a highly respected orthopaedic doctor when they first came to Orlando?
yes, I remember someone said she worked for an ortho, but I don't recall if a name was given. I can see why she became a paper shuffler though...not much for people skills.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 06:58 PM
Yeah, but if she applied, that might have opened up a whole new can of worms about her lying about working to her parents. She would have to admit she couldn't come up with the W-2's, 1040's, etc., etc to document her eligibility. I imagine she just said she was at a job without benefits and let the medicaid go rather than possibly uncover her lies, IMO.
I thought back when she was pregnant and before then that she actually had worked? Maybe not full time, but didn't she have a job before Caylee was born? The only problem I see with her qualifying would be if she was still living at home. MOO
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Yeah, but if she applied, that might have opened up a whole new can of worms about her lying about working to her parents. She would have to admit she couldn't come up with the W-2's, 1040's, etc., etc to document her eligibility. I imagine she just said she was at a job without benefits and let the medicaid go rather than possibly uncover her lies, IMO.
she's also have to prove rent expense wouldn't she? or at least where she lived?
MrLucky917B
06-13-2009, 07:00 PM
But didn't Cindy say she paid all Caylee's medical bills? And what about Casey's delivery at the hospital? Who paid for that?
Casey's medical insurance, she was still working for Universal when Caylee was born.
JMO
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 07:01 PM
I thought back when she was pregnant and before then that she actually had worked? Maybe not full time, but didn't she have that job at Kodak before Caylee was born? The only problem I see with her qualifying would be if she was still living at home. MOO
Yeah, I'm more talking about Caylee's health care the last couple of years. Very interesting...hmmm.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 07:01 PM
she's also have to prove rent expense wouldn't she? or at least where she lived?
I think so and that may have been the problem with getting state aid if she lived at home. MOO
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 07:01 PM
I have a feeling there may be some pencil whipping with expenses and finances that we don't even know yet. Cindy got beligerant at the bond hearing over finances. ignore my spelling.
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:02 PM
Didn't Cindy say in her myspace diatribe on July 3rd that she had paid all the medical bills for Caylee? 'Course, guess just because she wrote it in black and white doesn't necessarily make it true.
yep page 34 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc.
Originally Posted by Sun
For some reason the name Dr. Silva popped up in my mind, when trying to remember about who Casey "said" was the doctor that she always took Caylee to. My memory is usually not so good for details or names, but does this name sound familiar to anyone else? I could be completely wrong.
There is a Dr. Silva in Orlando who is a pediatrician..
http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/Dr-Miguel-Silva-MD-8DCF51E0.cfm
Good sleuthing Chardonnay! But was Casey lying about "who" was Caylee's Dr.? Even if I have remembered what Casey "said," was Casey telling the Truth, or just another one of her lies? I wonder if there is a Dr. Silva on the latest, most current State's Witness List? (I have lost a link to the latest one I think).
sunstar
06-13-2009, 07:03 PM
Yeah, I'm more talking about Caylee's health care the last couple of years. Very interesting...hmmm.
I know :smile: Well, Caylee wouldn't be covered under Cindy's insurance so it would have to be either private pay or if she could get state assistance. Sometimes a child can get health care but the uninsured parent (Casey) can't. MOO
need2no
06-13-2009, 07:06 PM
yes, I remember someone said she worked for an ortho, but I don't recall if a name was given. I can see why she became a paper shuffler though...not much for people skills.
IIRC according to Rick the ortho doc treated some of the super star athletes, but I can't recall the doc's name. If I wasn't in the middle of preparing dinner I'd go search my saved docs for his name, not that it matters...just curious.
Amen....Cindy has zero, zip, nada people skills! Can you even imagine working with someone like her.
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 07:07 PM
she's also have to prove rent expense wouldn't she? or at least where she lived?
Normally, those types of programs want to know all your income and outgo info, assets, child paternity, 1st grade teacher's name, first dog's breed, lol. I'm really curious how, why, Cindy didn't have every bit of Casey's info in order to get her and Caylee on the appropriate programs just to save her and George the money, if nothing else, not to mention if Caylee had had a catastrophic illness or accident requiring intensive medical care. If my grandchild were living with me, and I knew their parent, my child, was not financially responsible for their health care, I would get them covered by hook or by crook, by gosh, just in case something happened, both to insure adequate care for the child and to protect my assets in doing so as much as possible.
Can you imagine how LE feels, trying to investigate the crime of Caylee's death? Cindy lies. George lies. Casey lies. Lee lies.
You just can't believe or depend on what comes out of their mouths.
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 07:08 PM
Good sleuthing Chardonnay! But was Casey lying about "who" was Caylee's Dr.? Even if I have remembered what Casey "said," was Casey telling the Truth, or just another one of her lies? I wonder if there is a Dr. Silva on the latest, most current State's Witness List? (I have lost a link to the latest one I think).
I can't find the Witness list either.. Help anyone?
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 07:13 PM
She also said Caylee was never sick
Don't most people take infants and small children in for well baby visits even if not ill? I always took mine when I was poor as a church-house mouse or not.
CelticDawn
06-13-2009, 07:17 PM
I know :smile: Well, Caylee wouldn't be covered under Cindy's insurance so it would have to be either private pay or if she could get state assistance. Sometimes a child can get health care but the uninsured parent (Casey) can't. MOO
Here even if a grandparent does not have permanent custody of a child ....if they are taking care of the child and take responsibility ofr the childs health care (like on a form at the doctors office) in order to get kids covered, If they can show that the child is living with them for whatever reason and theres no visible means of support the state Medicaid will cover the child.
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:18 PM
I know :smile: Well, Caylee wouldn't be covered under Cindy's insurance so it would have to be either private pay or if she could get state assistance. Sometimes a child can get health care but the uninsured parent (Casey) can't. MOO
LE did get a tip from a woman that thought Casey had registered Caylee with Kid Care in Lake County sometime in April or May of 2008. A check of DCF records does not show any records. DCF determines eligibility for the program.
LE report: pages 4-5 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf
Kid Care info: http://www.floridakidcare.org/
Hmmm, I do not remember seeing pages 1-3 of http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf It lists date, times, purchaser's name, purchase description, amount, evidence and notes about the event.
AlohaRainbow
06-13-2009, 07:19 PM
We've brought this up a couple of times but I thought I would see if anyone has any fresh ideas. Why has there been NO talk about Caylee's pediatrician? I don't see ONE reference to a Dr. Not from LE, not from the Ants, no defense, not pros; no one. Surely it would be important to see where she (Caylee) was on physical/social/behavioral development, milestones, immunizations, any previous injuries, etc. Any ideas?
i would think that caylee's medical records would be something that dr g would obtainfor review as part of her comprehensive report, e.g. did caylee have any heart, asthma or any other medical conditions that could even *conceivably* have contributed to a 'natural' death. i wouldn't be surprised to see a brief review of caylee's health history included in her report.
imc_e
06-13-2009, 07:20 PM
With the autopsy report being sealed because Cindy doesn't want the public to read the summary pertaining to how Caylee was killed, tells me that Cindy does not want the world to know yet, but a horrible, cruel child murderer, her daughter is.
The ME summary is incriminating and thats why its been sealed, for now anyhow.
Delaying the inevitable as usual.
They didn't report Caylee missing, delayed.
They didn't admit she was dead, delayed.
They don't want the expert report out that shows how she was killed, delayed.
Sealing the autopsy report and summary is PROOF to me that Caylee's life was cruelly taken, at the hands of her Muther.
(and the longer it takes for US to know how she killed her, will enable the Anthonys in their quest for denial)
jmo
desmom
06-13-2009, 07:22 PM
I can't find the Witness list either.. Help anyone?
http://citizenkim.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/caseys-case-cast-of-characters-witness-list/
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 07:22 PM
i would think that caylee's medical records would be something that dr g would obtainfor review as part of her comprehensive report, e.g. did caylee have any heart, asthma or any other medical conditions that could even *conceivably* have contributed to a 'natural' death. i wouldn't be surprised to see a brief review of caylee's health history included in her report.
Oh I think it will be used in Dr. G's investigation, AR, but I don't *think* that will be released as a part of the autopsy. IOW, I don't think we will get the actual prior medical records of Caylee's so much as Dr. G's interpretation of them. (But I guess they can. :shrug:)
ETA: Does anyone else remember there being some talk about a *genetic* cause of death (that was one of the reasons the defense was wanting to perform the autopsy, IIRC.)
sunstar
06-13-2009, 07:26 PM
Here even if a grandparent does not have permanent custody of a child ....if they are taking care of the child and take responsibility ofr the childs health care (like on a form at the doctors office) in order to get kids covered, If they can show that the child is living with them for whatever reason and theres no visible means of support the state Medicaid will cover the child.
Thanks! I think either this was the case or Cindy just paid out of pocket. MOO
Lavinia
06-13-2009, 07:26 PM
http://citizenkim.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/caseys-case-cast-of-characters-witness-list/
Thanks Des! :wub: I didn't see a "Silva", did anyone else?
summer
06-13-2009, 07:26 PM
With the autopsy report being sealed because Cindy doesn't want the public to read the summary pertaining to how Caylee was killed, tells me that Cindy does not want the world to know yet, but a horrible, cruel child murderer, her daughter is.
The ME summary is incriminating and thats why its been sealed, for now anyhow.
Delaying the inevitable as usual.
They didn't report Caylee missing, delayed.
They didn't admit she was dead, delayed.
They don't want the expert report out that shows how she was killed, delayed.
Sealing the autopsy report and summary is PROOF to me that Caylee's life was cruelly taken, at the hands of her Muther.
(and the longer it takes for US to know how she killed her, will enable the Anthonys in their quest for denial)
jmo
I think it's pretty interesting that Brad Conway on the Today Show (this morning?) states the Anthony's don't want the autopsy results released because it would unduly prejudice Casey -- and yet I understand his motion states the reason as being the causing of grief to the family. Which is it?
I think Conway told the truth on the air and lied in his motion. Surprise surprise! It's okay to lie if you're not under oath, and then it's okay to lie then too -- if you're an extra special Anthony!
I wish the media would show this clip from the Today Show as proof of motive as to why they want the autopsy sealed before trial. Anyway, IMO, the Judge is going to let it be released through the sunshine laws next week, as soon as he reads the media's motion - I don't even think there will be a hearing on the matter.
sunstar
06-13-2009, 07:27 PM
LE did get a tip from a woman that thought Casey had registered Caylee with Kid Care in Lake County sometime in April or May of 2008. A check of DCF records does not show any records. DCF determines eligibility for the program.
LE report: pages 4-5 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf
Kid Care info: http://www.floridakidcare.org/
Hmmm, I do not remember seeing pages 1-3 of http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf It lists date, times, purchaser's name, purchase description, amount, evidence and notes about the event.
It sounds like maybe she started to register her there but didn't follow though? :shrug: MOO
summer
06-13-2009, 07:28 PM
Oh I think it will be used in Dr. G's investigation, AR, but I don't *think* that will be released as a part of the autopsy. IOW, I don't think we will get the actual prior medical records of Caylee's so much as Dr. G's interpretation of them. (But I guess they can. :shrug:)
ETA: Does anyone else remember there being some talk about a *genetic* cause of death (that was one of the reasons the defense was wanting to perform the autopsy, IIRC.)
Wouldn't the Dr. have to refer to any medical records to show it couldn't have been a natural death?
Of course no baby kills itself and then stuffs its own body into three bags and hops into a deserted trash heap but...
... still just to dot the i's and cross the t's seems like the baby's records would be included.
bchand
06-13-2009, 07:29 PM
I can't find the Witness list either.. Help anyone?
Here's the amended and supplemental witness list from January.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18565940/detail.html
summer
06-13-2009, 07:31 PM
p.s. I don't think there was any doctor. I think there were no well baby checks or immunizations. Caylee was neglected in all fundamental ways, to save a buck.
She did have plenty of sunglasses and stuffed animals and her room looked like it was decorated by a really crummy model home designer - totally phony and not specific to her.
Sunglasses and toys: J.C. Penny card
Real care and attention: priceless and non-existent.
IMO
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 07:31 PM
http://citizenkim.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/caseys-case-cast-of-characters-witness-list/
Des comes to the rescue again..! Thanks!
8BellesFan
06-13-2009, 07:32 PM
I think it's pretty interesting that Brad Conway on the Today Show (this morning?) states the Anthony's don't want the autopsy results released because it would unduly prejudice Casey -- and yet I understand his motion states the reason as being the causing of grief to the family. Which is it?
I think Conway told the truth on the air and lied in his motion. Surprise surprise! It's okay to lie if you're not under oath, and then it's okay to lie then too -- if you're an extra special Anthony!
I wish the media would show this clip from the Today Show as proof of motive as to why they want the autopsy sealed before trial. Anyway, IMO, the Judge is going to let it be released through the sunshine laws next week, as soon as he reads the media's motion - I don't even think there will be a hearing on the matter.
I got news for Brad, the only thing that would raise peoples opinions of Casey at this point was if she broke out with stigmata marks and walked on water to the jail shower.
summer
06-13-2009, 07:34 PM
The guy flat-out lies in interviews. Lies by commission and ommission. He's a flippin' liar. There I said it. JMO Brad, JMO.
Chardonnay
06-13-2009, 07:34 PM
Thanks Des! :wub: I didn't see a "Silva", did anyone else?
Nope, I didn't see a Silva.. :thumbdown:
O/T, how do I bold in someone's post? tia
~layla~
06-13-2009, 07:35 PM
Didnt Casey work for Kodak when she was pregnant with Caylee... took a leave and didnt go back?
also.... did Casey ever really work for Universal?
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