NY- Plans to Trap & Kill 2000 Canadian Geese

[Postergeist]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06112009/news/regionalnews/nyc_to_kill_geese_in_effort_to_protect_p_173768.ht m

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/breakingnews/NYC-to-trap_-gas-2_000-Canada-geese-this-summer-in-bid-to-protect-aircraft-47862062.html

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[Postergeist]

Why not just have open hunting season on them? Or donate the meat to soup kitchens? I can understand needing them removed for safety reasons but don't understand wasting the meat.

Good thinking warhorse- even my dad wondered if one could eat the meat of an animal that has been gassed?

It just seems extreme- I wonder how long the geese and other birds have been in that area and how many planes in that area actually go down due to birds?

[warhorse46]

Why not just have open hunting season on them? Or donate the meat to soup kitchens? I can understand needing them removed for safety reasons but don't understand wasting the meat.

[warhorse46]

Good thinking warhorse- even my dad wondered if one could eat the meat of an animal that has been gassed?

It just seems extreme- I wonder how long the geese and other birds have been in that area and how many planes in that area actually go down due to birds?



Just taking a guess here but I would think the meat from a gassed animal would not be fit for human consumption. I really don't see why the geese could not be humanly live trapped then slaughtered & distributed to local soup kitchens. And I have read of other ways to stop birds from nesting in unwanted areas that do not involve killing them.

[Shells2]

I think it's disgusting when human technology outweighs the value of animal life.

[R~O~S]

Just taking a guess here but I would think the meat from a gassed animal would not be fit for human consumption. I really don't see why the geese could not be humanly live trapped then slaughtered & distributed to local soup kitchens. And I have read of other ways to stop birds from nesting in unwanted areas that do not involve killing them.

Logan Int uses dogs to keep them away from the airport, but there are other places they congregate in huge numbers. We've been fighting to educate folks at the beach areas. The kids love to feed them, but then they come back in bigger and bigger numbers.

The droppings make it impossible to enjoy the beach and you can't have a two year old running around with a sandwich or ice cream, they'll snatch it right away from them. In large numbers, when they've been fed by people and therefore have no fear of them they can be a real hazard to the kids.

The golf courses are a big problem too. They're a perfect stop over for the geese as they're migrating, but they foul the greens and can be aggressive if they decide they want that ball that just landed in the middle of them.

I'm confused because one article says they're using shotguns and the other says traps and gas. But the bottom line is they do need to be thinned and not just at the airport. I'm not willing to do the thinning, but I have to agree if it's got to be done don't waste the meat.

As we make small steps in improving the environment, we're seeing wildlife in places we haven't seen them in decades. Wild turkeys, deer, coyotes, bear, raccoons & moose have all got populations out of control and we don't have a hunting season. Entire communities that don't allow any hunting or shooting of any kind & limited food supplies for them. Big cats aren't a problem here but they are in other parts of the country.

It's a problem that's going to have to be addressed. Some of these animals are attacking pets & small children for food & the deer have become a hazard on the roadways traveling from one wooded area to another in search of food.

[sunstar]

I think it's disgusting when human technology outweighs the value of animal life.

So do I ~ and I'd think there should be another solution. :mad:

[R~O~S]

So do I ~ and I'd think there should be another solution. :mad:


I'm sorry to take the thread so off topic, but I just listed a whole bunch of reasons why the reality is what it is. It's the people who created this problem, we killed off all the natural predators so we could build our communities and in doing so took all of the wildlife's habitat.

There wasn't a big problem as long as we kept our air and water so polluted they couldn't sustain a healthy flock or herd, but we've reversed that and the flocks and herds are back without the predators to keep the numbers in check.

What solution would you suggest? Shall we let them starve? Wouldn't that be less humane & lead to a flock or herd that isn't healthy?

As I stated above, it's not just an airport issue. It's certainly not just a health and safety issue. It's an issue that severely impacts the wildlife involved just as much if not more.