Not Reporting Caylee Missing......

[Booklover]

What is your opinion of Casey's demeanor in the Courtroom? :confused:

[imc_e]

She is callous, laughing, smiling, acting like she is a celebrity. :thumbdown:

jmo

[CatBallou]

She is callous, laughing, smiling, acting like she is a celebrity. :thumbdown:

jmo

And she fluffs her hair every 2 seconds, like she is a celebrity, but I am here to tell you that she is not famous she is INFAMOUS, a sociopath, like many others we have seen.

:angry:

[Booklover]

She is callous, laughing, smiling, acting like she is a celebrity. :thumbdown:

jmo

I think so too, imc_e - :thumbsup: She's acting like the world revolves around her. She's a legend in her own mind, but, she's sadly mistaken. She said that people who criticize her should get their own lives because she hates hearing the truth. Casey has no one else to blame but herself for where she is right now. :laugh:

[Booklover]

And she fluffs her hair every 2 seconds, like she is a celebrity, but I am here to tell you that she is not famous she is INFAMOUS, a sociopath, like many others we have seen.

:angry:

I completely agree with you, CatBallou! :thumbsup: I am so tired of seeing her fluffing her hair, primping, sticking her chest out, & pursing her lips for the cameras! It almost looks like some sort of mating ritual! :laugh: She does actually think she's a celebrity. Sadly, she's a legend in her own mind.

[myownopera]

I completely agree with you, CatBallou! :thumbsup: I am so tired of seeing her fluffing her hair, primping, sticking her chest out, & pursing her lips for the cameras! It almost looks like some sort of mating ritual! :laugh: She does actually think she's a celebrity. Sadly, she's a legend in her own mind.


She has such a superior attitude -- she really thinks she is better/smarter than anyone else -- beats all I have EVER seen!!!:cursing:

JMO

[courtsinsession]

Casey poses all the time; watch her; she has always done it; all those pics, she is posing; in the courtroom she is posing. she knows the camera is on her and she does act like she is a celebrity; she is stone cold evil.

[Booklover]

She has such a superior attitude -- she really thinks she is better/smarter than anyone else -- beats all I have EVER seen!!!:cursing:

JMO

I think so too, myownopera. :laugh: Doesn't it make you wonder about the people who are sending her money? :confused:

[Booklover]

Casey poses all the time; watch her; she has always done it; all those pics, she is posing; in the courtroom she is posing. she knows the camera is on her and she does act like she is a celebrity; she is stone cold evil.

Good point, courtsinsession! :thumbsup: I wonder if she'll be "posing" when she meets her maker? She is truly "evil". Look at those cold eyes, and that blank stare. She's a true Sociopath. Even when she smiles she looks creepy. :scared:

[girlspell]

Casey poses all the time; watch her; she has always done it; all those pics, she is posing; in the courtroom she is posing. she knows the camera is on her and she does act like she is a celebrity; she is stone cold evil.

I remember seeing the tape of the police interrogations. She continued to fluff her hair and inspect her nails. All the way up to the handcuffs on her.

What I do find interesting is this habit of rubbing her hands. She does that a lot in the court room. Like someone trying to rub the blood off her hands? :sad:

[frances1]

I remember seeing the tape of the police interrogations. She continued to fluff her hair and inspect her nails. All the way up to the handcuffs on her.

What I do find interesting is this habit of rubbing her hands. She does that a lot in the court room. Like someone trying to rub the blood off her hands? :sad:

Girlspell, that's what I was going to comment on....the hand rubbing. It is extreme and disturbing.

[seeing_eye]

Girlspell, that's what I was going to comment on....the hand rubbing. It is extreme and disturbing.

I agree that there is a reason she rubs her hands a lot, but I don't believe she's trying to rub the blood off. I believe she has no guilt for what she's done and probably wouldn't mind at all if her hands were covered with blood. There is some other reason she rubs her hands.

[gnm109]

I've never met or associated with anyone quite like her. She is apparently a pathological liar. In that regard, she shares many characteristics with the infamous Scott Peterson. Both of them show a callous disregard for the truth, almost to the point of a completely twsted reality.

While I can't be certain whether her case qualifies for the death penalty, it's almost certain that she will receive a long prison sentence. My heart aches when I think of the poor little child, cast out like a rag doll.

[Bala]

I truly believe Casey has convinced herself she is part of the defense team instead of the defendant.

[SandyO]

I remain puzzled by Casey's sense of entitlement, and even her sense of superiority. From the beginning, when she called her attorney "Jose" instead of Mr. Baez, I had a feeling that she has no respect for her elders and superiors (including law enforcement and her parents). You'd think a girl with Casey's problems would have a deep insecurity and an inferiority complex, but the opposite seems to be the case. Now, I'm sure she feels entitled to the top notch defense team which has been assembled for her, that she feels no gratitude, and that she feels every bit their equal. It's sure strange.

[3girls]

I agree that there is a reason she rubs her hands a lot, but I don't believe she's trying to rub the blood off. I believe she has no guilt for what she's done and probably wouldn't mind at all if her hands were covered with blood. There is some other reason she rubs her hands.
I watched a program about body language the other night, and they said that rubbing hands was a sign that the person was very uncomfortable in a situation. First person to come to mind was CA

[ssb1]

I remain puzzled by Casey's sense of entitlement, and even her sense of superiority. From the beginning, when she called her attorney "Jose" instead of Mr. Baez, I had a feeling that she has no respect for her elders and superiors (including law enforcement and her parents). You'd think a girl with Casey's problems would have a deep insecurity and an inferiority complex, but the opposite seems to be the case. Now, I'm sure she feels entitled to the top notch defense team which has been assembled for her, that she feels no gratitude, and that she feels every bit their equal. It's sure strange.

I believe that's the narcissist in her. Also, the hand rubbing, it's like in Shakespeare's play MacBeth. Lady MacBeth thinks there is blood on her hands and is constantly rubbing them.

[Daffodil]

I agree that there is a reason she rubs her hands a lot, but I don't believe she's trying to rub the blood off. I believe she has no guilt for what she's done and probably wouldn't mind at all if her hands were covered with blood. There is some other reason she rubs her hands.


I think she is rubbing her hands to "get the dirt off" of them. Clean her hands and be rid of this mess. Make it all go away.

[MissElainyS]

She is a sociopath. That's what they do.

[Gaelsong]

Being a Narcissist / sociopath, she behaves as though she is always on "camera" and no one gets it but her. Unfortunately, we are not her parents, and her lies have not been acceptable or believable from the get go. I think this is still all just part of the game in her head to her, and one day soon she imagines how she'll act when she walks out the door. Not sure if Andrea Lyons can alter that illusion or not. I do hope they put her hair back in a pony tail & in clothes that fit her, for her next appearance in court. It is so very distracting. Although when 'jose' is trying to speak, distraction is good . . .

[Booklover]

I truly believe Casey has convinced herself she is part of the defense team instead of the defendant.

Great post, Bala! :thumbsup: You know, I think you're right! Thanks for making me laugh. Casey really is delusional, isn't she? :laugh:

[Booklover]

I remember seeing the tape of the police interrogations. She continued to fluff her hair and inspect her nails. All the way up to the handcuffs on her.

What I do find interesting is this habit of rubbing her hands. She does that a lot in the court room. Like someone trying to rub the blood off her hands? :sad:

Interesting point, girlspell! :biggrin: Casey's hands are always moving, that's for sure. She sure does love to play up to the cameras too. :laugh:

[Booklover]

I've never met or associated with anyone quite like her. She is apparently a pathological liar. In that regard, she shares many characteristics with the infamous Scott Peterson. Both of them show a callous disregard for the truth, almost to the point of a completely twsted reality.

While I can't be certain whether her case qualifies for the death penalty, it's almost certain that she will receive a long prison sentence. My heart aches when I think of the poor little child, cast out like a rag doll.

Great post, gnm109! :thumbsup: I can't think of anyone who deserves the Death Penalty more than Casey Anthony. :angry:

[Booklover]

Being a Narcissist / sociopath, she behaves as though she is always on "camera" and no one gets it but her. Unfortunately, we are not her parents, and her lies have not been acceptable or believable from the get go. I think this is still all just part of the game in her head to her, and one day soon she imagines how she'll act when she walks out the door. Not sure if Andrea Lyons can alter that illusion or not. I do hope they put her hair back in a pony tail & in clothes that fit her, for her next appearance in court. It is so very distracting. Although when 'jose' is trying to speak, distraction is good . . .

Excellent post, Gaelsong! :thumbsup: Keep them coming! :smile:

[Booklover]

I think she is rubbing her hands to "get the dirt off" of them. Clean her hands and be rid of this mess. Make it all go away.

That's an interesting point of view, Daffodil! :thumbsup: That's a strong possibility. :smile:

[Booklover]

I remain puzzled by Casey's sense of entitlement, and even her sense of superiority. From the beginning, when she called her attorney "Jose" instead of Mr. Baez, I had a feeling that she has no respect for her elders and superiors (including law enforcement and her parents). You'd think a girl with Casey's problems would have a deep insecurity and an inferiority complex, but the opposite seems to be the case. Now, I'm sure she feels entitled to the top notch defense team which has been assembled for her, that she feels no gratitude, and that she feels every bit their equal. It's sure strange.

Great post, SandyO! :thumbsup: Casey acts this way because she is a Sociopath. She's in for a rude awakening. Casey doesn't realize that she's a legend in her own mind. :laugh:

[Booklover]

I believe that's the narcissist in her. Also, the hand rubbing, it's like in Shakespeare's play MacBeth. Lady MacBeth thinks there is blood on her hands and is constantly rubbing them.

Great post, ssb1 - :thumbsup: Good point of view! :smile:

[Booklover]

She is a sociopath. That's what they do.

That's so true, MissElainyS! :thumbsup: It's frightening to think of how many more people there are like Casey. :ohmy:

[Booklover]

I watched a program about body language the other night, and they said that rubbing hands was a sign that the person was very uncomfortable in a situation. First person to come to mind was CA

Great post, 3girls! :thumbsup: I also read that deceitful people do this a lot too. :read:

[Booklover]

I agree that there is a reason she rubs her hands a lot, but I don't believe she's trying to rub the blood off. I believe she has no guilt for what she's done and probably wouldn't mind at all if her hands were covered with blood. There is some other reason she rubs her hands.

Great post, seeing_eye! :thumbsup: I read that deceitful people do this a lot. :read: Casey is a perfect example. :laugh:

[tulpje]

Girlspell, that's what I was going to comment on....the hand rubbing. It is extreme and disturbing.



Yes the hand rubbing is extreme.
But keep in mind that Casey gets transported from jail to the courthouse.
I don't know how long that takes, but she's handcuffed during that entire time.
Then she's held in the little jail next to the courtroom, still in handcuffs.

We have no idea how long that is, it could be hours.
When it's time for her to be in the courtroom, they take the cuffs off.
I think by that time her hand are hurting and that's why she's rubbing them.

As far as her touching her hair, I think she's very nervous, and does not even realise she's touching her hair.

[Booklover]

Cindy's personality can be described in many ways. Do you think she has a Personality Disorder? If so, why? If not, why? :mellow:

[Pretty Leaf]

Yes she does. All she has to do is open her mouth and you know she is not firing on all cylinders.


What it is ?? I'm not a shrink but she could be Sybil's sister.

[tulpje]

Cindy's personality can be described in many ways. Do you think she has a Personality Disorder? If so, why? If not, why? :mellow:



What do you think?

[spydernweb2006]

I think when you look at OC Casey and Cindy the Phrase THE NUT DOESNT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE is explained in all its meaning....


JMHO

Hugs,

Spyder

[myownopera]

I have a very good friend that is a complete control freak!! Her husband does anything and everything she says --- when she says it and how she wants it done -- is done. She completely controls him and tries with everyone else. When she comes up against one who she cannot control, she "freaks out". She does have one child, a son, and he is so much like her that he, too has hardly any friends. These two remind me so much of Cindy and Casey -- except this offspring is male -- they can hardly stand to be around each other because the other is soooo controlling -- this is a VERY sad case -- it is so similiar to CA's personality that it is scary!!! What can one do except keep your distance. This person, as Cindy has very few friends. Don't know how she would act if her only child (son) did something so tragic to a child, he is not married, but I kinda think she would act as Cindy. This, even without a tragedy is so very sad.

JMOO

[velvetbrown]

I have a very good friend that is a complete control freak!! Her husband does anything and everything she says --- when she says it and how she wants it done -- is done. She completely controls him and tries with everyone else. When she comes up against one who she cannot control, she "freaks out". She does have one child, a son, and he is so much like her that he, too has hardly any friends. These two remind me so much of Cindy and Casey -- except this offspring is male -- they can hardly stand to be around each other because the other is soooo controlling -- this is a VERY sad case -- it is so similiar to CA's personality that it is scary!!! What can one do except keep your distance. This person, as Cindy has very few friends. Don't know how she would act if her only child (son) did something so tragic to a child, he is not married, but I kinda think she would act as Cindy. This, even without a tragedy is so very sad.

JMOO

Are you sure he's not married? She sounds like my motherinlaw...

[tulpje]

Cindy's personality can be described in many ways. Do you think she has a Personality Disorder? If so, why? If not, why? :mellow:




What's a "personality disorder"?

[Booklover]

What do you think?

I think she's a control freak. :wink: Someone who likes to control the thoughts & opinions of others. She can't stand it when you don't see her side. There are lots of people like Cindy, unfortunately. :laugh:

[Booklover]

What's a "personality disorder"?

This is how you learn. :read: :wink:

[Booklover]

Yes she does. All she has to do is open her mouth and you know she is not firing on all cylinders.


What it is ?? I'm not a shrink but she could be Sybil's sister.

I think so too, Pretty Leaf! :thumbsup: For starters, Cindy is a "control freak".

[Booklover]

I think when you look at OC Casey and Cindy the Phrase THE NUT DOESNT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE is explained in all its meaning....


JMHO

Hugs,

Spyder

Good point, spydernweb2006 - :thumbsup: Like mother, like daughter. They're quite a pair! :laugh:

[Booklover]

I have a very good friend that is a complete control freak!! Her husband does anything and everything she says --- when she says it and how she wants it done -- is done. She completely controls him and tries with everyone else. When she comes up against one who she cannot control, she "freaks out". She does have one child, a son, and he is so much like her that he, too has hardly any friends. These two remind me so much of Cindy and Casey -- except this offspring is male -- they can hardly stand to be around each other because the other is soooo controlling -- this is a VERY sad case -- it is so similiar to CA's personality that it is scary!!! What can one do except keep your distance. This person, as Cindy has very few friends. Don't know how she would act if her only child (son) did something so tragic to a child, he is not married, but I kinda think she would act as Cindy. This, even without a tragedy is so very sad.

JMOO

Great post, myownopera! :thumbsup: That is sad! :sad: I don't know how you can stand to be around her. I think it's too late for her son. Thanks for sharing this story with us. It sure sounds like they're clones of Cindy & Casey! That's really scary! :scared:

[Booklover]

What are your thoughts on Casey not reporting Caylee missing? :confused:

[Tracian]

The only thing worse:

Cindy and George lying after she came up missing.


What a sick family..that poor baby did not have a chance.

[Booklover]

The only thing worse:

Cindy and George lying after she came up missing.


What a sick family..that poor baby did not have a chance.

I think so too, Tracian. :sad: I completely agree with you. They didn't deserve Caylee, and she certainly didn't deserve them. :cursing:

[Tracian]

I think so too, Tracian. :sad: I completely agree with you. They didn't deserve Caylee, and she certainly didn't deserve them. :cursing:


I know this sounds stupid; but perhaps Caylee was meant to expose something that will be a beacon for others.

She was an angel on earth..now she is an angel in heaven.....and perhaps her story will save others...

[Booklover]

I know this sounds stupid; but perhaps Caylee was meant to expose something that will be a beacon for others.

She was an angel on earth..now she is an angel in heaven.....and perhaps her story will save others...

I wouldn't say that Tracian. :smile: I don't think anyone's opinion is stupid. It's quite possible. I take comfort in knowing that no one can ever harm Caylee again. She is safe now. You're right, she's always been an Angel. :smile:

[kanzz]

I still keep thinking that the Casey apple didn't fall far from the George tree.

Maybe it's something like which came first?

Was it Juvenile George who morphed his wife into Cindy-the-Shrew? or, was it Cindy who emasculated George? or, did two people with personality disorders somehow end up together (rare)? or... any number of speculations and scenarios.

They all need help, but after what I'm sure has been years and years of family dysfunction, I doubt there would be any improvement in the family or the individuals with therapy (which rarely helps someone with a personality disorder anyway).

jmo

[puleeze09]

Cindy's personality can be described in many ways. Do you think she has a Personality Disorder? If so, why? If not, why? :mellow:

Does a wet mop qualify? LOL

[Booklover]

I still keep thinking that the Casey apple didn't fall far from the George tree.

Maybe it's something like which came first?

Was it Juvenile George who morphed his wife into Cindy-the-Shrew? or, was it Cindy who emasculated George? or, did two people with personality disorders somehow end up together (rare)? or... any number of speculations and scenarios.

They all need help, but after what I'm sure has been years and years of family dysfunction, I doubt there would be any improvement in the family or the individuals with therapy (which rarely helps someone with a personality disorder anyway).

jmo

Great post, kanzz! :smile: I look forward to reading more. :read:

[Booklover]

Does a wet mop qualify? LOL

One never knows when it comes to Cindy. :laugh:

[kanzz]

Great post, kanzz! :smile: I look forward to reading more. :read:

or maybe you shouldn't encourage me :blushing: LOL

Ok, talked me into it. I'll just paste some of my earlier rants here. Seems like a good place for it:


Quick comment about the Geo/Cindy/Casey dynamic.

There's the "Parent/Adult/Child" issue - and I'm thinking about how these roles play and feed off one another.

Two people in a marriage need to behave as two adults towards each other, and each of them as a partner parent to their offspring.

Seems to me ole irresponsible George placed himself in the role of a child, forcing Cindy into the role of his parent.

In his position as a biological parent, he continued to behave as a child, rather than a partner parent, further forcing Cindy to behave as parent to all.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Looks to me as though Cindy had to go too far in one direction as Geo was going too far in the other.

Yeah, Cindy is domineering and in charge. It was a role someone had to play, and I think she was probably angry most of the time about having to be the sole parent to those offspring as well as a parent to the spouse who should have been an adult partner.

I don't say this to give her an excuse. She'd have been a lot better off if she'd have left his sorry arse years ago, but she didn't. Just looking at this from a more-or-less textbook angle, I can see where this might be what lead to this ugly family dynamic, the enabling, and the dysfunctional group we see now.
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I'd be willing to bet ole George has never stood up to Casey to defend his wife / her mother.
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In response to: "George had his manhood stripped away from him very early in that relationship."
I think he willingly gave it up so he could continue to be an irresponsible adolescent with a momma to make all the decisions and handle all the grown-up issues. jmo
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In response to: "At one point I did feel very bad for George. But no more. George is a good actor.":
FWIW - ITA. and I think Cindy's mom knows ole George best. Would sure like to hear from folks who knew both of them years ago and who know about the course of their marriage. IMO, Geo is a passive-aggressive adolescent whose irresponsible behavior has molded Cindy into the hag she has become. I know I'm a broken record, but for those who have read about TA, especially "I'm OK, You're OK", you know where I am with this.
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OK, you get the picture. I'm just not convinced Cindy started out as a hag. But of course, I could be wrong.

jmo

[Booklover]

or maybe you shouldn't encourage me :blushing: LOL

Ok, talked me into it. I'll just paste some of my earlier rants here. Seems like a good place for it:


Quick comment about the Geo/Cindy/Casey dynamic.

There's the "Parent/Adult/Child" issue - and I'm thinking about how these roles play and feed off one another.

Two people in a marriage need to behave as two adults towards each other, and each of them as a partner parent to their offspring.

Seems to me ole irresponsible George placed himself in the role of a child, forcing Cindy into the role of his parent.

In his position as a biological parent, he continued to behave as a child, rather than a partner parent, further forcing Cindy to behave as parent to all.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Looks to me as though Cindy had to go too far in one direction as Geo was going too far in the other.

Yeah, Cindy is domineering and in charge. It was a role someone had to play, and I think she was probably angry most of the time about having to be the sole parent to those offspring as well as a parent to the spouse who should have been an adult partner.

I don't say this to give her an excuse. She'd have been a lot better off if she'd have left his sorry arse years ago, but she didn't. Just looking at this from a more-or-less textbook angle, I can see where this might be what lead to this ugly family dynamic, the enabling, and the dysfunctional group we see now.
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I'd be willing to bet ole George has never stood up to Casey to defend his wife / her mother.
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In response to: "George had his manhood stripped away from him very early in that relationship."
I think he willingly gave it up so he could continue to be an irresponsible adolescent with a momma to make all the decisions and handle all the grown-up issues. jmo
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In response to: "At one point I did feel very bad for George. But no more. George is a good actor.":
FWIW - ITA. and I think Cindy's mom knows ole George best. Would sure like to hear from folks who knew both of them years ago and who know about the course of their marriage. IMO, Geo is a passive-aggressive adolescent whose irresponsible behavior has molded Cindy into the hag she has become. I know I'm a broken record, but for those who have read about TA, especially "I'm OK, You're OK", you know where I am with this.
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OK, you get the picture. I'm just not convinced Cindy started out as a hag. But of course, I could be wrong.

jmo

Excellent post, kanzz! :thumbsup: You have some interesting views which I find fascinating. Thanks for sharing, and please keep them coming. :smile:

[Booklover]

Can anyone come up with any reason why a mother would not report her child missing? :confused:

For starters, there is no excuse for any mother to not report her child missing. That is, of course, unless she is the reason the child is missing in the first place! :cursing:

[BlueHeron]

or maybe you shouldn't encourage me :blushing: LOL

Ok, talked me into it. I'll just paste some of my earlier rants here. Seems like a good place for it:


Quick comment about the Geo/Cindy/Casey dynamic.

There's the "Parent/Adult/Child" issue - and I'm thinking about how these roles play and feed off one another.

Two people in a marriage need to behave as two adults towards each other, and each of them as a partner parent to their offspring.

Seems to me ole irresponsible George placed himself in the role of a child, forcing Cindy into the role of his parent.

In his position as a biological parent, he continued to behave as a child, rather than a partner parent, further forcing Cindy to behave as parent to all.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Looks to me as though Cindy had to go too far in one direction as Geo was going too far in the other.

Yeah, Cindy is domineering and in charge. It was a role someone had to play, and I think she was probably angry most of the time about having to be the sole parent to those offspring as well as a parent to the spouse who should have been an adult partner.

I don't say this to give her an excuse. She'd have been a lot better off if she'd have left his sorry arse years ago, but she didn't. Just looking at this from a more-or-less textbook angle, I can see where this might be what lead to this ugly family dynamic, the enabling, and the dysfunctional group we see now.
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I'd be willing to bet ole George has never stood up to Casey to defend his wife / her mother.
===


In response to: "George had his manhood stripped away from him very early in that relationship."
I think he willingly gave it up so he could continue to be an irresponsible adolescent with a momma to make all the decisions and handle all the grown-up issues. jmo
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In response to: "At one point I did feel very bad for George. But no more. George is a good actor.":
FWIW - ITA. and I think Cindy's mom knows ole George best. Would sure like to hear from folks who knew both of them years ago and who know about the course of their marriage. IMO, Geo is a passive-aggressive adolescent whose irresponsible behavior has molded Cindy into the hag she has become. I know I'm a broken record, but for those who have read about TA, especially "I'm OK, You're OK", you know where I am with this.
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OK, you get the picture. I'm just not convinced Cindy started out as a hag. But of course, I could be wrong.

jmo

While I find some of this to be right on, I think it fails to address some of the aspects of her personality that a reaction to her family members doesn't explain. For one, her apparant narcissism (IMO). It always seems to be about her. Second, her constant lying (some of this may have started in response to the family dynamic, but I don't think that's all). She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul. While some of that can rub off, I think it's more like 2 liars finding each other; finding a relationship where the other will not call you on your BS because they don't want to be called on theirs. I think she taught kc to lie. She didn't want to be called on her own dishonesty, and therefor felt it cruel to point out her daughters perhaps? She always wanted a free pass on her bs, and therefor gave that to her daughter. She spoiled her daughter rotten IMO. Why? The my child is perfect fantasy that had to be maintained at all costs. Parents often see their children as extensions or reflections of themselves. kc could do no wrong, because it meant that cindy was imperfect.

[Ladyhawk]

While I find some of this to be right on, I think it fails to address some of the aspects of her personality that a reaction to her family members doesn't explain. For one, her apparant narcissism (IMO). It always seems to be about her. Second, her constant lying (some of this may have started in response to the family dynamic, but I don't think that's all). She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul. While some of that can rub off, I think it's more like 2 liars finding each other; finding a relationship where the other will not call you on your BS because they don't want to be called on theirs. I think she taught kc to lie. She didn't want to be called on her own dishonesty, and therefor felt it cruel to point out her daughters perhaps? She always wanted a free pass on her bs, and therefor gave that to her daughter. She spoiled her daughter rotten IMO. Why? The my child is perfect fantasy that had to be maintained at all costs. Parents often see their children as extensions or reflections of themselves. kc could do no wrong, because it meant that cindy was imperfect.

Hey Blue, I had no idea that George was married before...when did this info hit the airways?? Your assessment of C makes sense to me.

[Amy]

Can anyone come up with any reason why a mother would not report her child missing? :confused:

For starters, there is no excuse for any mother to not report her child missing. That is, of course, unless she is the reason the child is missing in the first place! :cursing:

For sure, I don't buy the Caylee or any of the A's being in "danger" story. Caylee isn't in danger anymore, for one. And, other than Casey being "safe" in jail these days, I sure don't see body guards and such for the rest of the A's, so don't suppose they feel they are in danger in anyway. They were front and center from the beginning, and didn't seem to worry about their safety. So, that, I don't buy.

That pretty much leaves the conclusion that--it is most probable that Caylee is dead because her mother murdered her. The amount of involvement of the other A's is pretty hard to decifer, IMO. But, reporting the dead body smell, and Caylee being no where around certainly points to their realiziing on July 15 that Caylee was dead, IMO.

[MrsHudson]

While I find some of this to be right on, I think it fails to address some of the aspects of her personality that a reaction to her family members doesn't explain. For one, her apparant narcissism (IMO). It always seems to be about her. Second, her constant lying (some of this may have started in response to the family dynamic, but I don't think that's all). She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul. While some of that can rub off, I think it's more like 2 liars finding each other; finding a relationship where the other will not call you on your BS because they don't want to be called on theirs. I think she taught kc to lie. She didn't want to be called on her own dishonesty, and therefor felt it cruel to point out her daughters perhaps? She always wanted a free pass on her bs, and therefor gave that to her daughter. She spoiled her daughter rotten IMO. Why? The my child is perfect fantasy that had to be maintained at all costs. Parents often see their children as extensions or reflections of themselves. kc could do no wrong, because it meant that cindy was imperfect.

Wow! Good analysis.

[girlspell]

LOL..this is the woman who bore and raised Casey. Cindy to me is "twisty" (the only word I can come up with that fits her.) Casey never turned in to a pathological liar overnight. She was well taught. :bored:

[Booklover]

While I find some of this to be right on, I think it fails to address some of the aspects of her personality that a reaction to her family members doesn't explain. For one, her apparant narcissism (IMO). It always seems to be about her. Second, her constant lying (some of this may have started in response to the family dynamic, but I don't think that's all). She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul. While some of that can rub off, I think it's more like 2 liars finding each other; finding a relationship where the other will not call you on your BS because they don't want to be called on theirs. I think she taught kc to lie. She didn't want to be called on her own dishonesty, and therefor felt it cruel to point out her daughters perhaps? She always wanted a free pass on her bs, and therefor gave that to her daughter. She spoiled her daughter rotten IMO. Why? The my child is perfect fantasy that had to be maintained at all costs. Parents often see their children as extensions or reflections of themselves. kc could do no wrong, because it meant that cindy was imperfect.

Great post, BlueHeron! :thumbsup: You've added a lot of good points about Cindy's personality. I'll bet she has never admitted to ever doing anything wrong. Cindy & Casey are so much alike it's scary. George & Cindy are both liars, so it's no surprise that Casey's one too. :wink:

[Booklover]

LOL..this is the woman who bore and raised Casey. Cindy to me is "twisty" (the only word I can come up with that fits her.) Casey never turned in to a pathological liar overnight. She was well taught. :bored:

Good post, girlspell! :smile: I think both George & Cindy are liars, so it stands to reason that Casey would be one too. Let's not forget Lee. He's definitely a part of that strange family. :ohmy:

[girlspell]

This is the nail in Casey's coffin. The defense is going to make a big show attacking anything the prosecution brings up, while claiming this is all circumstantial.

That fact they can't argue back. That's all a jury has to hear. She's cooked

[Booklover]

For sure, I don't buy the Caylee or any of the A's being in "danger" story. Caylee isn't in danger anymore, for one. And, other than Casey being "safe" in jail these days, I sure don't see body guards and such for the rest of the A's, so don't suppose they feel they are in danger in anyway. They were front and center from the beginning, and didn't seem to worry about their safety. So, that, I don't buy.

That pretty much leaves the conclusion that--it is most probable that Caylee is dead because her mother murdered her. The amount of involvement of the other A's is pretty hard to decifer, IMO. But, reporting the dead body smell, and Caylee being no where around certainly points to their realiziing on July 15 that Caylee was dead, IMO.

Excellent post, Amy! :thumbsup: Their story is just that, only a story. I'm sure that George & Cindy knew from the beginning what happened to Caylee. They have a major problem with the truth. They can't face it, and they most certainly can't tell it. It seems that liars run in that family. God Bless little Caylee. She never had a chance. Unfortunately, I believe that if George & Cindy had raised Caylee, she most probably would have turned out just like Casey. Let's not forget that Lee has a problem in telling the truth too. IMO :crying:

[legalease]

I still keep thinking that the Casey apple didn't fall far from the George tree.

Maybe it's something like which came first?

Was it Juvenile George who morphed his wife into Cindy-the-Shrew? or, was it Cindy who emasculated George? or, did two people with personality disorders somehow end up together (rare)? or... any number of speculations and scenarios.

They all need help, but after what I'm sure has been years and years of family dysfunction, I doubt there would be any improvement in the family or the individuals with therapy (which rarely helps someone with a personality disorder anyway).

jmo

Yup .... :thumbup:

[legalease]

She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul.

Is there a link to this? Not being contrary as I remember, way back when, reading that George had a previous marriage - but can't find any info on this - or even Cindy's past - was she married before too?

[BlueHeron]

Is there a link to this? Not being contrary as I remember, way back when, reading that George had a previous marriage - but can't find any info on this - or even Cindy's past - was she married before too?

I knew I had read it several places, but according to this it may have been debunked. Sorry!

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/george-anthonyan-ex-wife/

ETA: I still think he's a habitual liar though.

[wondering?]

It looked like Casey has some sort of skin problem on her hands. When watching the Video of her in the interrogation room, when the Detective left for so long, that Casey picked at her hands for a long time and then had to brush off her pants. Looked like she may have had flecks of skin that she was scratching off her hands. Like Eczema type condition.

[Booklover]

It looked like Casey has some sort of skin problem on her hands. When watching the Video of her in the interrogation room, when the Detective left for so long, that Casey picked at her hands for a long time and then had to brush off her pants. Looked like she may have had flecks of skin that she was scratching off her hands. Like Eczema type condition.

I didn't notice that, wondering? :confused: Maybe she has allergies?

[iluvmua]

I think deep down Casey knows she's in BIG trouble; maybe always touching her hair, rubbing her hands together etc. is a sign of nervousness.

Heck, In her mind she thinks she got away with it and she'll be set free to go back home to Mommy and Daddy and resume her life without Caylee cramping her style.

[Booklover]

I think deep down Casey knows she's in BIG trouble; maybe always touching her hair, rubbing her hands together etc. is a sign of nervousness.

Heck, In her mind she thinks she got away with it and she'll be set free to go back home to Mommy and Daddy and resume her life without Caylee cramping her style.

Hi, iluvmua! :smile: Casey will never admit it to anyone, but, she knows what she did to Caylee. When reality sets in, she will have no one to talk to about her feelings. Too bad she didn't care about Caylee's feelings! :crying: I do notice the dark circles under her eyes. Maybe, Caylee is haunting her through nightmares. I certainly hope so. :angry:

[wondering?]

Booklover, I found the link where it shows Casey picking at her hands while waiting for the Detectives to return.

http://www.wftv.com/video/19107107/index.html

Hope this helps.

[kanzz]

While I find some of this to be right on, I think it fails to address some of the aspects of her personality that a reaction to her family members doesn't explain. For one, her apparant narcissism (IMO). It always seems to be about her. Second, her constant lying (some of this may have started in response to the family dynamic, but I don't think that's all). She married a man described by his ex-wife as a pathological liar. She stayed married to him for the long haul. While some of that can rub off, I think it's more like 2 liars finding each other; finding a relationship where the other will not call you on your BS because they don't want to be called on theirs. I think she taught kc to lie. She didn't want to be called on her own dishonesty, and therefor felt it cruel to point out her daughters perhaps? She always wanted a free pass on her bs, and therefor gave that to her daughter. She spoiled her daughter rotten IMO. Why? The my child is perfect fantasy that had to be maintained at all costs. Parents often see their children as extensions or reflections of themselves. kc could do no wrong, because it meant that cindy was imperfect.

All good points, BlueHeron. I'm curious about George and Cindy's history, both early in their marriage as well as before.

[LisaM22]

Booklover, I found the link where it shows Casey picking at her hands while waiting for the Detectives to return.

http://www.wftv.com/video/19107107/index.html

Hope this helps.

that was weird, not sure what she was doing, looked like something falling on her pants cause she kept clearing them off

[Booklover]

Booklover, I found the link where it shows Casey picking at her hands while waiting for the Detectives to return.

http://www.wftv.com/video/19107107/index.html

Hope this helps.

Hi, wondering? - :smile: Thanks for sharing that video with us. It was extremely disturbing to watch! It certainly wasn't normal behavior. I'd like to know what a psychiatrist would have to say about it. :scared: Maybe, she's thinking about what she did to Caylee? :confused: I also think she realizes what's in her future. IMO

[Booklover]

that was weird, not sure what she was doing, looked like something falling on her pants cause she kept clearing them off

Hi, LisaM22! :smile: I think she was picking at the skin on her hands. Those are probably skin particles from her hands. :ohmy:

[LisaM22]

Hi, wondering? - :smile: Thanks for sharing that video with us. It was extremely disturbing to watch! It certainly wasn't normal behavior. I'd like to know what a psychiatrist would have to say about it. :scared: Maybe, she's thinking about what she did to Caylee? :confused: I also think she realizes what's in her future. IMO

maybe she has OCD?

"COMPULSIVE SKIN PICKING - SYMPTOMS AND TREATMENT"

http://www.ocdla.com/compulsiveskinpicking.html

[kageykaren]

I'm going with the neighbors of the A's assesment of CA and that word they used was, "Evil" and I beleive "_itch" Those are lay terms. On a psychiatric level narcisism seems to describe mother and daughter. Just my educated opinion from the outside looking in. Here is a poem that members might find interesting. This song was wriiten and sang by a gentleman named Doug Payne wrote. Obviously he came in contact with a narcisstic sociopath. This was written before June 15' 2008. I think this sums up at least kC and I see some of this in CA. I hide I cannot relate. I put on a face and I shut the gate. I won't confide, I cannot debate. I won't decide. I procrastinate. You can't reach my soul. It's down a deep dark hole and if you love me to well I'll make your life hell. So well I have lived this lie. No one can tell, not even I. My babys got the right to ask, but I won't stop and take off the mask. If someone trys to touch my heart, show they care the trouble will start. My greatest fear are her loving eyes and tender hands across my disguise. I'd like to feel like you. To laugh and cry and see things through. We should have made it if I could only end this charade. <3

[wondering?]

Thanks for that link to skin picking, very interesting.

[kellabeck]

What are your thoughts on Casey not reporting Caylee missing? :confused:

This is a mystery?

It's obvious. She killed Caylee and wanted to get away with it. The longer it took for anyone to look for Caylee, the better for Casey.

Simple.

[Booklover]

This is a mystery?

It's obvious. She killed Caylee and wanted to get away with it. The longer it took for anyone to look for Caylee, the better for Casey.

Simple.

I think so too, kellabeck! :smile: The fact remains, there is no excuse for a mother not reporting her child missing. IMO :angry:

[Booklover]

maybe she has OCD?

"COMPULSIVE SKIN PICKING - SYMPTOMS AND TREATMENT"

http://www.ocdla.com/compulsiveskinpicking.html

That's a possibility too, LisaM22 - :smile: Thanks for sharing this with us. :smile:

[Booklover]

I'm going with the neighbors of the A's assesment of CA and that word they used was, "Evil" and I beleive "_itch" Those are lay terms. On a psychiatric level narcisism seems to describe mother and daughter. Just my educated opinion from the outside looking in. Here is a poem that members might find interesting. This song was wriiten and sang by a gentleman named Doug Payne wrote. Obviously he came in contact with a narcisstic sociopath. This was written before June 15' 2008. I think this sums up at least kC and I see some of this in CA. I hide I cannot relate. I put on a face and I shut the gate. I won't confide, I cannot debate. I won't decide. I procrastinate. You can't reach my soul. It's down a deep dark hole and if you love me to well I'll make your life hell. So well I have lived this lie. No one can tell, not even I. My babys got the right to ask, but I won't stop and take off the mask. If someone trys to touch my heart, show they care the trouble will start. My greatest fear are her loving eyes and tender hands across my disguise. I'd like to feel like you. To laugh and cry and see things through. We should have made it if I could only end this charade. <3

Excellent post, kageykaren! :smile: I most definitely will not disagree with you. :wink:

[Dells]

I think so too, kellabeck! :smile: The fact remains, there is no excuse for a mother not reporting her child missing. IMO :angry:

I so agree. I think Casey not reporting Caylee missing is one of the most incriminating pieces of evidence against her. Especially since she has not provided a reasonable explanation as to why.

[Booklover]

I so agree. I think Casey not reporting Caylee missing is one of the most incriminating pieces of evidence against her. Especially since she has not provided a reasonable explanation as to why.

Exactly! :thumbsup: Good thinking, Dells! Casey has no reasonable explanation for anything. For that matter, neither does George or Cindy! :laugh: Can't help but wonder what Casey did on the anniversary of her daughter's murder. :crying: