Thurs., June 11, 2009

[desmom]

One year ago today...June 11, 2008

June 10/11/12 Maria Kissh saw Casey and Caylee at Tone’s. She was concerned about Caylee being on the balcony unattended. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Kissh%20%20Maria-0717.pdf

Amy & Ricardo go to Voyage. Casey sent a text to Ricardo saying she would not be at Voyage because she had to work. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

June 11 – June 18 Troy Brown in “D.C….well Northern Virginia” http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: So I just got off. A friend game me a ride so I’m back at the boys. Awake and in need of a chat?

Casey to Amy 06/11 12:18 a.m: What time do you work tomorrow? I'm in and out of sleep. Stupid drama.

Amy to Casey: I should be free bt 3 and 6.

Casey to Amy 06/11 12:19 a.m.: Ok cool. That’s perfect.

Amy to Casey: Go to bed love you tons.

Casey to Amy 06/11 12:21 a.m.: Love you too! Night.

[desmom]

Facebook group to hold Caylee Marie Anthony vigil
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-facebook-vigil-061009,0,2369525.story

Casey Anthony's lawyers want judge to delay decision on jail video
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-jail-video-060809,0,3034256.story

Baez Files Motion To Obtain Phone Records
http://www.wftv.com/news/19716840/detail.html
Motion: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19716269/detail.html

Anthony Attorney Seeks P.I.'s Phone Records
http://www.wesh.com/news/19713862/detail.html

[desmom]

Casey to Amy 06/11 12:18 a.m: What time do you work tomorrow? I'm in and out of sleep. Stupid drama.

On June 7, Casey and Caylee show up at Ricardo's around 11:00 p.m. They both spend the night. On June 9, they show up after Ricardo got off work around 8:00 p.m. and again they both spend the night.

A few minutes past midnight on June 11, Casey tells Amy she can't sleep because of "stupid drama". Who would be causing the "stupid drama" in Casey's life? No one reported Casey and Caylee spending the night with them, so I believe she was at home. jmo

[Scampi]

Good morning Des! Thank you for all these links.

"Stupid drama" indeed. This is the drama that led to Caylee's murder, I hope LE has been able to piece together exactly what occurred.

[desmom]

Good morning Des! Thank you for all these links.

"Stupid drama" indeed. This is the drama that led to Caylee's murder, I hope LE has been able to piece together exactly what occurred.

The A's neighbor, Jean Couty, told LE about 2 arguments between Casey and Cindy. He believes the arguments were "roughly a month before law enforcement started coming to the house the evening of July 15th, day of July 16th. (I vote for the weekend before Father's Day.)

One argument he heard the F word being tossed around by Casey and Casey saying "Just shut up Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore" and then she went for a jog. The other argument involved Casey screaming at Cindy and Cindy eventually got in the car and left. Mr. Couty said the arguments were one-sided with Casey doing all the talking.

Mr. Couty pages 4 - 5 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/02.pdf

ETA ~ I can't imagine Cindy and Casey were having these screaming matches and one of them did not tell someone about them. I wonder what Mallory knows. We have not seen her transcripts. jmo

[Steps]

The A's neighbor, Jean Couty, told LE about 2 arguments between Casey and Cindy. He believes the arguments were "roughly a month before law enforcement started coming to the house the evening of July 15th, day of July 16th. (I vote for the weekend before Father's Day.)

One argument he heard the F word being tossed around by Casey and Casey saying "Just shut up Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore" and then she went for a jog. The other argument involved Casey screaming at Cindy and Cindy eventually got in the car and left. Mr. Couty said the arguments were one-sided with Casey doing all the talking.

Mr. Couty pages 4 - 5 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/02.pdf

ETA ~ I can't imagine Cindy and Casey were having these screaming matches and one of them did not tell someone about them. I wonder what Mallory knows. We have not seen her transcripts. jmo

Mallory knows plenty. But she would not have told anything in her depo that would harm the Anthony's. She's in way too tight with the OC's family! Aren't her parents even involved with the Anthony Foundation? LE won't be getting anything from her!!

[Sun]

The A's neighbor, Jean Couty, told LE about 2 arguments between Casey and Cindy. He believes the arguments were "roughly a month before law enforcement started coming to the house the evening of July 15th, day of July 16th. (I vote for the weekend before Father's Day.)

One argument he heard the F word being tossed around by Casey and Casey saying "Just shut up Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore" and then she went for a jog. The other argument involved Casey screaming at Cindy and Cindy eventually got in the car and left. Mr. Couty said the arguments were one-sided with Casey doing all the talking.

Mr. Couty pages 4 - 5 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/02.pdf

ETA ~ I can't imagine Cindy and Casey were having these screaming matches and one of them did not tell someone about them. I wonder what Mallory knows. We have not seen her transcripts. jmo

Jean Couty seems to have provided some insight. And, though JCouty's interview with LE doesn't contain specific dates, just that they would be on the weekends vs. weekdays. I found the recollections to be quite credible. The State is going to need witnesses like this one, to show that Casey and Cindy were NOT best friends as Cindy would like everyone to believe. p.s. Jean is a guy, right?

[cassidy]

The A's neighbor, Jean Couty, told LE about 2 arguments between Casey and Cindy. He believes the arguments were "roughly a month before law enforcement started coming to the house the evening of July 15th, day of July 16th. (I vote for the weekend before Father's Day.)

One argument he heard the F word being tossed around by Casey and Casey saying "Just shut up Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore" and then she went for a jog. The other argument involved Casey screaming at Cindy and Cindy eventually got in the car and left. Mr. Couty said the arguments were one-sided with Casey doing all the talking.

Mr. Couty pages 4 - 5 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/02.pdf

ETA ~ I can't imagine Cindy and Casey were having these screaming matches and one of them did not tell someone about them. I wonder what Mallory knows. We have not seen her transcripts. jmo

Mallory has been kept pretty much under wraps. Not much attention turned her way. I believe that her mother is on the board of the "foundation", indicating that she is friendly with Cindy and George or they want her to be on their side. Gotta wonder what ole MallyBoo knows and what information she would be willing to part with.

JMO

[AMS]

Mallory knows plenty. But she would not have told anything in her depo that would harm the Anthony's. She's in way too tight with the OC's family! Aren't her parents even involved with the Anthony Foundation? LE won't be getting anything from her!!

ITA about Mallory. She must know plenty. I still don't understand why we have not seen Mallory transcripts. Mallory and her mother are both on the board of directors for the foundation.

Good morning all. des, thanks so much for the recap each morning.

imo

[desmom]

While checking Orlando headlines, Casey must be very upset she is sitting in jail and missing all of this:

Orlando Magic viewing parties are sure to please
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orlent-bars-orlandomagicviewingparties-story,0,261595.story

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you des for your "one-year-ago-today" posts...they are absolutely great. So much was happening daily after July that eventhough we were here from the beginning, so many things have been forgotten, links have disappeared, etc. Your posts are bringing us full circle.

Now, who were these women that have this picture of George and Cindy chasing them?

[desmom]

ITA about Mallory. She must know plenty. I still don't understand why we have not seen Mallory transcripts. Mallory and her mother are both on the board of directors for the foundation.

Good morning all. des, thanks so much for the recap each morning.

imo

Maybe the state is keeping Mallory's interview under raps to protect her from the Wrath of Cindy. hammer

[grammie/va]

I am enjoying the day to day updates that you are doing!!! Thank you so much, it really is a good way to actually pick up on some things that I have either forgot along the way or just missed in the abundance of info that was put out. So many many thanks to you!!

[Sun]

In a statement made to OCSO, Melina says after Caylee was born, Casey told her she felt her mother was "overbearing." Melina says that according to Casey, Cynthia had told Casey she should be spending more of her time at home with Caylee. Casey and Cynthia would have "extreme" arguments, mostly over Caylee. (Melina was a high school friend of Casey's)

[msgatorslayer]

Thank you des for your "one-year-ago-today" posts...they are absolutely great. So much was happening daily after July that eventhough we were here from the beginning, so many things have been forgotten, links have disappeared, etc. Your posts are bringing us full circle.

Now, who were these women that have this picture of George and Cindy chasing them?

Yup, ITA, I've read through these e-mail exchanges in the past but seeing them daily, as they lead up to Casey taking off with Caylee for good, they're seen in a whole different light.

I also agree with Des that there was a big fight on the weekend before Father's Day. In Lee's taped convo with TonE, Lee is talking about a fight where Cindy was upset about Casey not being home much with Caylee. This can't be THE BIG Father's Day fight that he's talking about. That one was about the theft of Gram's money.

[AMS]

Maybe the state is keeping Mallory's interview under raps to protect her from the Wrath of Cindy. hammer

Now that's a good and scary thought, des. What was the name of thea movie with Jane Fonda and Jennifer Lopez.....Monster-In-Law?? (something like that). That would be Cindy imo. :wink:


imo

[sammy62]

Maybe the state is keeping Mallory's interview under raps to protect her from the Wrath of Cindy. hammer

Is Mallory on the witness list?

[msgatorslayer]

While checking Orlando headlines, Casey must be very upset she is sitting in jail and missing all of this:

Orlando Magic viewing parties are sure to please
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orlent-bars-orlandomagicviewingparties-story,0,261595.story

This reminds me, wasn't Casey supposed to get tickets for something and it fell through? lol

I don't remember if it was Amy, TonE, or where I read it. But I recall something about this. Casey was using her 'job' as a means to get good deals, lmao.

[sammy62]

I'm not giving Casey a free pass....but can you imagine living in a house with Cindy.

[Sun]

I'm not giving Casey a free pass....but can you imagine living in a house with Cindy.

I can imagine it, but I wouldn't do it. LOL You are right about not giving Casey a pass, as Casey was an adult, and was responsible for the choices that she made in her life. It's high time that Casey learns that she will be held responsible for her criminal actions.

[Scampi]

I see Jean Couty's testimony regarding the two fights, being used by Lyon at trial, to show that cindy didn't respond when casey yelled at her and therefore did not attempt to "choke" her.

[desmom]

Is Mallory on the witness list?

Yes. http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/revised-witness-list-in-casey-anthony-case/

[desmom]

I see Jean Couty's testimony regarding the two fights, being used by Lyon at trial, to show that cindy didn't respond when casey yelled at her and therefore did not attempt to "choke" her.

I think the only reason Cindy did not respond was because they were in the front yard.

[Sun]

I see Jean Couty's testimony regarding the two fights, being used by Lyon at trial, to show that cindy didn't respond when casey yelled at her and therefore did not attempt to "choke" her.

Do you mean that Lyon will come out and admit that Casey was in a fight with Cindy?

[*MoonRider*]

GM. Thank you Des for the one year ago reminders. I remember a text from Casey that says something like drama, I haven't been home for 9 days. I can't find it anywhere. I think something major was brewing in the Casa de Anthony starting on 6/8. Do we know what dates Cindy was on vacation?

[msgatorslayer]

Hey gals, I'm posting this cause it is the same thing going on in this case. Baez moaning about media, yet, calling PC's and courting the national media, all the time.

The Hulk Hogan lawsuit -

'Fugate noted that in the time since the defendants in the Graziano lawsuit filed their request touching on the depositions, Hogan has appeared on the Bubba the Love Sponge radio show 10 times and has discussed the Graziano lawsuit, along with his contentious pending divorce from his estranged wife Linda Bollea.

"To go out and generate this publicity and then to use that to restrict access to information'' doesn't pass legal muster if they are trying to argue releasing the depositions would impinge on their right to a fair trial, she said.'

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jun/10/101636/attorney-hogan-lied-about-lawsuit/news-metro/

[desmom]

GM. Thank you Des for the one year ago reminders. I remember a text from Casey that says something like drama, I haven't been home for 9 days. I can't find it anywhere. I think something major was brewing in the Casa de Anthony starting on 6/8. Do we know what dates Cindy was on vacation?

:seeya:

Casey left a message on Troy Brown's facebook page: page 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement

Troy: ....and this was on, uh, this was at 12:40 p.m. on the 24th. And she says uh, this is referencing Amy moving into the house. And she said she still yet to move into the house. "Hell in the past nine days I haven't even been living at the house. Drama. I'll fill you in later."

[Sun]

GM. Thank you Des for the one year ago reminders. I remember a text from Casey that says something like drama, I haven't been home for 9 days. I can't find it anywhere. I think something major was brewing in the Casa de Anthony starting on 6/8. Do we know what dates Cindy was on vacation?

Cindy worked Friday May 30th, and then had vacation, and returned to work on Monday June 9. Then Cindy once again took another full week of vacation, worked Friday June 27th, off until returning back to work on Monday July 7.

[Scampi]

Do you mean that Lyon will come out and admit that Casey was in a fight with Cindy?

I think LE has testimony from a next door neighbor about the fight on father's day weekend and Lyon will use the Couty testimony to combat that. Maybe. :smile:

[*MoonRider*]

:seeya:

Casey left a message on Troy Brown's facebook page: page 12 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement

Troy: ....and this was on, uh, this was at 12:40 p.m. on the 24th. And she says uh, this is referencing Amy moving into the house. And she said she still yet to move into the house. "Hell in the past nine days I haven't even been living at the house. Drama. I'll fill you in later."

Thanks, so 9 days earlier would be the 15th. It's so hard to think back to last year and realize that Caylee only had a few more days on this earth. :crying:

[Ckrdpast]

The A's neighbor, Jean Couty, told LE about 2 arguments between Casey and Cindy. He believes the arguments were "roughly a month before law enforcement started coming to the house the evening of July 15th, day of July 16th. (I vote for the weekend before Father's Day.)

One argument he heard the F word being tossed around by Casey and Casey saying "Just shut up Mom. I don't want to hear it anymore" and then she went for a jog. The other argument involved Casey screaming at Cindy and Cindy eventually got in the car and left. Mr. Couty said the arguments were one-sided with Casey doing all the talking.

Mr. Couty pages 4 - 5 http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/02.pdf

ETA ~ I can't imagine Cindy and Casey were having these screaming matches and one of them did not tell someone about them. I wonder what Mallory knows. We have not seen her transcripts. jmo

Good morning all!


youtube audio of mr couty interview (9-15)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8gOBrJSHdU

[Lavinia]

While checking Orlando headlines, Casey must be very upset she is sitting in jail and missing all of this:

Orlando Magic viewing parties are sure to please
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orlent-bars-orlandomagicviewingparties-story,0,261595.story

Don't forget she'll be hitting the bars, too. :laugh:

[desmom]

Don't forget she'll be hitting the bars, too. :laugh:

:lol:

I am a little slow this morning. I had to read this twice before it clicked.

[trich]

What I want to know is just because the Media says "sources close to the investigation" does he truely think they are saying that the prosecution is steady handing out information to the media.
Well with Sunshine Laws seems to me the media has a right to anything they can find.
Personally I woul dthink he would want this information out and over with and then by trial people would forget and only listen to the evidence as presented in court.
He is the one going to court holding hearings and bringing all this"stuff" up front and center.
For example if he was not filing so many motions we would have nothing to talk about here.LOL
As it is we are rehashing all the "old" news and depositions.
Seems to me he ought to be doing that himself instead of trying to find reasons to have the whole case thrown out of court because so much has "leaked" out.
Or any other reason he can think of to have Casey exhonorated.
I want to know just how long he can have the trial put off and how long will the court system put up with his shenanaghans.
Seems like he is doing nothing but coming up with reasons for stalling.
Seems now that he finally got a DP attorney to join the defense now she needs time to get aquainted with the case....okay what if another wants to jump on the bandwagon ...and another....or some other excuse.
Where and when will it end?

[adair]

Good Morning Everyone!!

Thanks for the recaps Desmom........It is so disturbing knowing that the end of Caylee's life is coming...........

[Lavinia]

:lol:

I am a little slow this morning. I had to read this twice before it clicked.

She got there just in time for "last call for alcohol".

[Sun]

I think LE has testimony from a next door neighbor about the fight on father's day weekend and Lyon will use the Couty testimony to combat that. Maybe. :smile:

Couty's testimony will show that there was a fight (or maybe argument is a better word to use). I'm guessing that you are referring to an alledged choking incident... which I am quite certain that Cindy will deny if she is ever asked this in the courtroom. Cindy and Casey were the only one's present. If Cindy denies it ever happened, and Casey doesn't testify, what is there to combat? ...I need to brush up on hearsay and how that works. LOL

[Sun]

Good morning all!


youtube audio of mr couty interview (9-15)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8gOBrJSHdU

Thanks SO MUCH for this link of LE's interview with Jean Couty!

Couty's home is across the street from the Anthonys, and the "side" of their home faces the Anthonys. What I found interesting in this interview, is that ....Cindy and George never once knocked on their neighbor's door to make any inquiries to see if anyone had seen anything in regards to Caylee going missing.

[*MoonRider*]

Here's an interesting timeline.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?s=&c=4&week=&month=6&year=2008

[Rapunzel]

While checking Orlando headlines, Casey must be very upset she is sitting in jail and missing all of this:

Orlando Magic viewing parties are sure to please
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/orlent-bars-orlandomagicviewingparties-story,0,261595.story


Nice, but I don't see Fusion Ultra Lounge listed...:lol::lol:

[Rapunzel]

I think the only reason Cindy did not respond was because they were in the front yard.

Yeah, but that didn't stop her from yelling and screaming and shaking her hammer at the media and protesters...:tonguewag::tonguewag:

[desmom]

Thanks SO MUCH for this link of LE's interview with Jean Couty!

Couty's home is across the street from the Anthonys, and the "side" of their home faces the Anthonys. What I found interesting in this interview, is that ....Cindy and George never once knocked on their neighbor's door to make any inquiries to see if anyone had seen anything in regards to Caylee going missing.

No one from the A's contacted Brian Burner until after the news reports about the neighbor giving LE the shovel. George knocked on his door, handed him a flier about the vigil the next night, asked if he was the one that turned in the shovel and said they were trying to do their own timeline. Mr. Burner said George knew it was him before he even asked because the news showed Burner's house on the evening edition when they reported the shovel evidence.

I get the impression the A's stayed to themselves and did not socialize much with the neighbors.

jmo

Burner's interview: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641640/Brown-Brian---Statement

[Sun]

No one from the A's contacted Brian Burner until after the news reports about the neighbor giving LE the shovel. George knocked on his door, handed him a flier about the vigil the next night, asked if he was the one that turned in the shovel and said they were trying to do their own timeline. Mr. Burner said George knew it was him before he even asked because the news showed Burner's house on the evening edition when they reported the shovel evidence.

I get the impression the A's stayed to themselves and did not socialize much with the neighbors.

jmo

Burner's interview: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641640/Brown-Brian---Statement

You are right, and I also get that very same impression. However, that sure wouldn't stop ME from knocking on neighbors doors and asking them if they might know something that might help find Caylee. All the Anthonys did, was to run their mouths into a mic or to use their vehicle and drive around pulling a sign. They never searched for Caylee. ...sigh. They already knew, yet continued to lie to everyone.

[PuffDragon]

I see Jean Couty's testimony regarding the two fights, being used by Lyon at trial, to show that cindy didn't respond when casey yelled at her and therefore did not attempt to "choke" her.

It does sound that Cindy's usual practice was to walk away when the argument got overheated. She did that a lot when the spotlight was on her too. In interviews when she started to get angry she would threaten to walk away rather than to escalate the emotions, and look how often she would try to diffuse the anger when George or a demonstrator got out of control. We've seen her do it many times, and never have seen her get angry to the point of uncontrollable fury. We did see Casey on tape getting to that point however.

I'm suspicious of the choking incident anyway, since there are only two witnesses to it and neither is credible. Given Cindy's way of dealing with arguments it seems more likely to me that she got so furious with Casey that she screamed she would really like to choke her, or something to that effect. Whoever was the next person Casey saw - sounds like it might have been Lee - got the edited version. You know how Casey loves 'DRAMMMMMMA!!!', and she no doubt needed to put out a story that made her look good and Cindy look bad, figuring that Cindy would probably be telling her own version.

That's assuming, of course, that there even was an argument. Since Cindy denies it and Casey isn't likely to testify, I don't know how it can even be brought out in testimony.

[Barbara fl.]

It does sound that Cindy's usual practice was to walk away when the argument got overheated. She did that a lot when the spotlight was on her too. In interviews when she started to get angry she would threaten to walk away rather than to escalate the emotions, and look how often she would try to diffuse the anger when George or a demonstrator got out of control. We're seen her do it many times, and never have seen her get angry to the point of uncontrollable fury. We did see Casey on tape getting to that point however.

I'm suspicious of the choking incident anyway, since there are only two witnesses to it and neither is credible. Given Cindy's way of dealing with arguments it seems more likely to me that she got so furious with Casey that she screamed she would really like to choke her, or something to that effect. Whoever was the next person Casey saw - sounds like it might have been Lee - got the edited version. You know how Casey loves 'DRAMMMMMMA!!!', and she no doubt needed to put out a story that made her look good and Cindy look bad, figuring that Cindy would probably be telling her own version.

That's assuming, of course, that there even was an argument. Since Cindy denies it and Casey isn't likely to testify, I don't know how it can even be brought out in testimony.

Good morning,

I too doubt the choking part...but I believe that there was a blowup in that house that night and Casey walked out and took Caylee....that part falls right in place as to why this took place....Casey couldn't bring Caylee to stay at TonE's and she didn't want to go back home after the fight with her mother and being caught out there about stealing from the grandfather's account....

I think Casey was at her very end and didn't know what to do and she blamed Casey for it all...so she decided to end her problem and hurt her mother at the same time......jmo

[Rapunzel]

I'm not sure about the choking incident...but Casey and Cindy have a temper...we have seen that...remember the hammer...the baseball bat??? I don't know...I can picture Cindy getting mad enough to put her hands on Casey...

[KittyMom]

This reminds me, wasn't Casey supposed to get tickets for something and it fell through? lol

I don't remember if it was Amy, TonE, or where I read it. But I recall something about this. Casey was using her 'job' as a means to get good deals, lmao.

The trip to PR? Casey bought the tickets on Cindy's cc and the gang paid her back. But she couldn't go due to "work". :rolleyes:

I'll bet one of those fights had to do with that cc bill.

[KittyMom]

I wonder if Mallory forgot to follow the "script". She may've told something that LE can use against Casey.

[*MoonRider*]

I'm not sure about the choking incident...but Casey and Cindy have a temper...we have seen that...remember the hammer...the baseball bat??? I don't know...I can picture Cindy getting mad enough to put her hands on Casey...

I think it did happen. Cindy mention in her FBI (I think) interview that she wanted to put her hands on Casey so she would tell where Caylee was. But then she immediately said I would never do that. (paraphrasing) Well she lies, she tells the truth. :shrug:

[Sun]

I finally found an old, old video from back on July 21, 2008 where Greta interviewed Cindy (but Greta really seemed to have no control of the interview LOL). It's in this blog, the very first video.

Cindy was so busy trying to mislead the public and LE, in a desperate attempt to draw all attention away from looking into Casey's actions. This is one of the interviews that began with "I'm running on very little sleep, be gentle with me...

Baez speaks briefly right at the beginning of the video, and though I've listen to his words several times, what he says just makes no sense at all. But listening to the video and to how Cindy was back then, is just something.

http://amomandherblog.com/?p=1163

[PuffDragon]

Good morning,

I too doubt the choking part...but I believe that there was a blowup in that house that night and Casey walked out and took Caylee....that part falls right in place as to why this took place....Casey couldn't bring Caylee to stay at TonE's and she didn't want to go back home after the fight with her mother and being caught out there about stealing from the grandfather's account....

I think Casey was at her very end and didn't know what to do and she blamed Casey for it all...so she decided to end her problem and hurt her mother at the same time......jmo

*Bolding to address

Why not? Being caught out and/or having blowups never seems to have bothered her before. I can see her stomping off in a fury, dragging a very upset baby with her, and through carelessness or displaced anger causing Caylee's death. Then having to figure out a way to cover up.

[Sun]

I think it did happen. Cindy mention in her FBI (I think) interview that she wanted to put her hands on Casey so she would tell where Caylee was. But then she immediately said I would never do that. (paraphrasing) Well she lies, she tells the truth. :shrug:

I caught that too. I suspect that Cindy was trying to explain away something that she feared a neighbor had overheard. And IIRC, Cindy's brother Rick once made some mention of "shaking the &*!^" out of someone (his mention made me think that this might be something common to the upbringing of Cindy and Rick)

Note: Tony has never indicated that Casey had any bruises on her skin. And I believe that Tony spent a bit of time June 16th/17th being able to see Casey's skin.

[desmom]

Going through some old links and I found the statement from John Azzilonna, Fusian Ultra Lounge photographer.

According to his statement:

Casey was wearing a black dress on June 6 and 13:
http://patrishka.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/b-casey-anthony-party-42cdb8ead5d3.jpeg

Casey was wearing a blue dress on June 20:
http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/casey-anthony-party-photo-13.jpg

http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/caseyanthony.jpg

http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/casey-anthony-dancing3.jpg

[Barbara fl.]

I finally found an old, old video from back on July 21, 2008 where Greta interviewed Cindy (but Greta really seemed to have no control of the interview LOL). It's in this blog, the very first video.

Cindy was so busy trying to mislead the public and LE, in a desperate attempt to draw all attention away from looking into Casey's actions. This is one of the interviews that began with "I'm running on very little sleep, be gentle with me...

Baez speaks briefly right at the beginning of the video, and though I've listen to his words several times, what he says just makes no sense at all. But listening to the video and to how Cindy was back then, is just something.

http://amomandherblog.com/?p=1163


I particulary liked the part when Cindy was asked if she ever saw Zanny, and Cindy says that Casey knows who she handed Caylee over to and then says "I never met God but I know he exists".

Well, Cindy....that is exactly who your daughter gave Caylee to, "God"....

[desmom]

The trip to PR? Casey bought the tickets on Cindy's cc and the gang paid her back. But she couldn't go due to "work". :rolleyes:

I'll bet one of those fights had to do with that cc bill.

IMO, Casey did not buy any tickets and Casey buying the tickets is a Cindyism.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey 5/07: Right. Should we call the airline about booking? It would be easier if we can all get our own tickets.

Casey to Amy 5/07 10:59 a.m.: Oh, I completely agree. If anything as long as we buy them around the same time we should be OK with our seats. I think we could call the airline and get them adjusted after the fact. As long as we sit together I don't care. Ha ha.


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Amy to Casey: JP and Ric have their tix. I called my dad again so hopefully I have mine soon. Wanted to make sure you were in the loop cause I wasn't.

Casey to Amy 5/30 3:35 p.m.: I knew about Ric. I'll get mine this weekend then.

[Dick Tracy]

]The trip to PR? Casey bought the tickets on Cindy's cc and the gang paid her back.[/B] But she couldn't go due to "work". :rolleyes:

I'll bet one of those fights had to do with that cc bill.

Morning Kitty -

I hadn't heard that Casey had purchased the tickets for everyone's trip to PR. And that then they all paid her back. That would be a hefty charge on a CC, and if that is the case, then Cindy had everyone reason to blow up, because when her friends paid her back, they probably paid or wrote checks payable to Casey only.

Are those ticket purchases documented somewhere? That could be the reason for FIGHT#1.

[KittyMom]

IMO, Casey did not buy any tickets and Casey buying the tickets is a Cindyism.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey 5/07: Right. Should we call the airline about booking? It would be easier if we can all get our own tickets.

Casey to Amy 5/07 10:59 a.m.: Oh, I completely agree. If anything as long as we buy them around the same time we should be OK with our seats. I think we could call the airline and get them adjusted after the fact. As long as we sit together I don't care. Ha ha.


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Amy to Casey: JP and Ric have their tix. I called my dad again so hopefully I have mine soon. Wanted to make sure you were in the loop cause I wasn't.

Casey to Amy 5/30 3:35 p.m.: I knew about Ric. I'll get mine this weekend then.

Okay. Thank you for correcting me. :thumbup:

Thanks too for setting the stage each morning with the texts, etc. It helps to understand what little Caylee's life was like.

[Barbara fl.]

*Bolding to address

Why not? Being caught out and/or having blowups never seems to have bothered her before. I can see her stomping off in a fury, dragging a very upset baby with her, and through carelessness or displaced anger causing Caylee's death. Then having to figure out a way to cover up.

I agree that is probably what happened...with the exception of the carelessness or displaced anger......that would insinuate that this murder was either by accident or in a fit of anger.....I believe that it was deliberate, with intent, to hurt her mother and to get rid of what she thought was her problem for not having her freedom.....

I just never believe that this was in anyway not deliberate (even before a body was ever found)....when a person doesn't accept a lesser charge if they would just tell the truth, then there is a reason that they can not tell the truth...because the truth would reveal that the child was infact murdered......The tape around the head was all I needed to seal my original theory....

[KittyMom]

Morning Kitty -

I hadn't heard that Casey had purchased the tickets for everyone's trip to PR. And that then they all paid her back. That would be a hefty charge on a CC, and if that is the case, then Cindy had everyone reason to blow up, because when her friends paid her back, they probably paid or wrote checks payable to Casey only.

Are those ticket purchases documented somewhere? That could be the reason for FIGHT#1.

Hi ya, DT. I can't remember where I read that about the tickets. Apparently, it was a rumor or misinfo as des has set me straight in an above post. Sorry for the mislead. Didn't mean to confuse. :blushing:

[Sun]

I particulary liked the part when Cindy was asked if she ever saw Zanny, and Cindy says that Casey knows who she handed Caylee over to and then says "I never met God but I know he exists".

Well, Cindy....that is exactly who your daughter gave Caylee to, "God"....

I hope to be able to re-watch/listen to interviews/videos from a year ago, but fear that it's going to be a big task to locate many of the links. Desmon, I absolutely love your contributions to the daily thread, and thank you greatly for all your time and effort!

[Dick Tracy]

Hi ya, DT. I can't remember where I read that about the tickets. Apparently, it was a rumor or misinfo as des has set me straight in an above post. Sorry for the mislead. Didn't mean to confuse. :blushing:


No problem-o! I saw her post above. So much to read! So much to try and recall!

[Sun]

Morning Kitty -

I hadn't heard that Casey had purchased the tickets for everyone's trip to PR. And that then they all paid her back. That would be a hefty charge on a CC, and if that is the case, then Cindy had everyone reason to blow up, because when her friends paid her back, they probably paid or wrote checks payable to Casey only.

Are those ticket purchases documented somewhere? That could be the reason for FIGHT#1.

I almost wonder if Casey "tried" to make a bit of money by getting her friends to allow her to purchase all the tickets? (and Casey would then use Cindy's CC, and when Cindy got her statement... Cindy would likely hit the roof, or deny the charges to the CC company) And, Casey would then pocket the cash that her friends gave her for their tickets. But Casey's friends didn't allow Casey to do this.

I suspect that a bit of Casey's day, was spent figuring out how she was going to get some money.

[desmom]

Okay. Thank you for correcting me. :thumbup:

Thanks too for setting the stage each morning with the texts, etc. It helps to understand what little Caylee's life was like.

I thought the same thing until I saw the tickets mentioned in the Casey/Amy's text messages.

sigh...just another Cindyism imo of course.

[desmom]

I think Lyon must have confiscated JB's frequent flyer miles and super glued his lips together. Since she has come on board, he has not made any national or local news appearances.

[PuffDragon]

I agree that is probably what happened...with the exception of the carelessness or displaced anger......that would insinuate that this murder was either by accident or in a fit of anger.....I believe that it was deliberate, with intent, to hurt her mother and to get rid of what she thought was her problem for not having her freedom.....

I just never believe that this was in anyway not deliberate (even before a body was ever found)....when a person doesn't accept a lesser charge if they would just tell the truth, then there is a reason that they can not tell the truth...because the truth would reveal that the child was infact murdered......The tape around the head was all I needed to seal my original theory....

I guess there's no way anybody will ever know. There's no evidence one way or the other. We can argue "it can't be this way because nobody would ......" or "it has to be that way because that's how somebody would....." but we don't know what goes on in Casey's mind. She lies to everybody and probably to herself. Even if she 'confesses' we wouldn't believe a word. As the judge said a long time ago, she and the truth are strangers.

We're discussing Casey's motivation as if she were a normal rational person like the rest of us. The reality is none of society's conventions apply to Casey because she doesn't accept them. She's not going to accept a lesser change because she's not responsible for Caylee's death. Casey knows what happened to her, and she knows she did it, but she believes she's not responsible because if somebody else hadn't _ _ _ [fill in the blanks] then she wouldn't have had to _ _ _ [fill in the blanks] and she sure isn't going to take the rap for what happened when it's somebody else's fault.

[saywhat04]

Good morning Des! Thank you for all these links.

"Stupid drama" indeed. This is the drama that led to Caylee's murder, I hope LE has been able to piece together exactly what occurred.

Hiya, Scamp. Nice to see you. :smile:

There aren't adequate words to describe how I feel about people who choose to keep secrets, and who choose to tell lies, over the welfare of a 2 year-old child.

No matter how you slice it, it was more important to Cindy to hide the truth of what was going on between her and Casey, than it was to find Caylee.

:angry:

[Barbara fl.]

I guess there's no way anybody will ever know. There's no evidence one way or the other. We can argue "it can't be this way because nobody would ......" or "it has to be that way because that's how somebody would....." but we don't know what goes on in Casey's mind. She lies to everybody and probably to herself. Even if she 'confesses' we wouldn't believe a word. As the judge said a long time ago, she and the truth are strangers.

We're discussing Casey's motivation as if she were a normal rational person like the rest of us. The reality is none of society's conventions apply to Casey because she doesn't accept them. She's not going to accept a lesser change because she's not responsible for Caylee's death. Casey knows what happened to her, and she knows she did it, but she believes she's not responsible because if somebody else hadn't _ _ _ [fill in the blanks] then she wouldn't have had to _ _ _ [fill in the blanks] and she sure isn't going to take the rap for what happened when it's somebody else's fault.

Very well put.....:thumbup:

What you wrote...I believe everyone would have to agree with.....

[Barbara fl.]

I think Lyon must have confiscated JB's frequent flyer miles and super glued his lips together. Since she has come on board, he has not made any national or local news appearances.


Your right....AL must have put her foot down.....one thing for sure, she let him know whose in charge....:laugh:

[saywhat04]

I see Jean Couty's testimony regarding the two fights, being used by Lyon at trial, to show that cindy didn't respond when casey yelled at her and therefore did not attempt to "choke" her.

Okay, I'm confused. :confused:

Why would this be good for Casey's defense? I would think the opposite would be true? Help!

[saywhat04]

I think the only reason Cindy did not respond was because they were in the front yard.

ITA. As we now know, Cindy was all about keeping those skeletons inside the walls of that house. Bet Casey deliberately took her ranting, cursing and screaming out front just to further upset her mother.

Poor Caylee. :sad:

[Sun]

I think Lyon must have confiscated JB's frequent flyer miles and super glued his lips together. Since she has come on board, he has not made any national or local news appearances.

LOL, we can only hope! But, I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Barbara fl.]

Okay, I'm confused. :confused:

Why would this be good for Casey's defense? I would think the opposite would be true? Help!




I believe what Scampi is saying is that AL is going to try and prove that Casey didn't do this at all, that someone else did it...so therefore the choking might be used by the prosecution to give a reason why Casey was so upset....If AL can make it appear that the fight in the house was nothing out of the ordinary then that would not be reason for Casey to have murdered Caylee....

I think that is what it meant.....

[Dick Tracy]

Hiya, Scamp. Nice to see you. :smile:

There aren't adequate words to describe how I feel about people who choose to keep secrets, and who choose to tell lies, over the welfare of a 2 year-old child.

No matter how you slice it, it was more important to Cindy to hide the truth of what was going on between her and Casey, than it was to find Caylee.

:angry:

Say what?????

Good Morning!

My bolding **

It's sad. It was like a human chess game, and Caylee ended up being a pawn. However, by the time anyone even started to look for Caylee she was with the Angels.

Cindy knows - she had every right to be upset with Casey, but in the long run, she's probably more upset with the aspects of proper parenting in regards to Casey.

The Anthony's never took the time to teach responsibility and honesty, and the CONSEQUENCES of being irresponsible and dishonest to the PRP. The OC found out the hard way, and she's going to pay with her life someday. And she took a innocent little girls life in the process.

[saywhat04]

Okay. Thank you for correcting me. :thumbup:

Thanks too for setting the stage each morning with the texts, etc. It helps to understand what little Caylee's life was like.

Caylee didn't have much of a life, it seems ... especially as the draaammmaaa between her mother and grandmother intensified. :sad:

[saywhat04]

Your right....AL must have put her foot down.....one thing for sure, she let him know whose in charge....:laugh:

I'll bet she let him know that BEFORE she signed on. :laugh:

[saywhat04]

I believe what Scampi is saying is that AL is going to try and prove that Casey didn't do this at all, that someone else did it...so therefore the choking might be used by the prosecution to give a reason why Casey was so upset....If AL can make it appear that the fight in the house was nothing out of the ordinary then that would not be reason for Casey to have murdered Caylee....

I think that is what it meant.....

Thanks for the explanation, Barb.

And I wish Ms. Lyon rotsa ruck with the part I bolded. :laugh:

[spiritwolf46]

I finally found an old, old video from back on July 21, 2008 where Greta interviewed Cindy (but Greta really seemed to have no control of the interview LOL). It's in this blog, the very first video.

Cindy was so busy trying to mislead the public and LE, in a desperate attempt to draw all attention away from looking into Casey's actions. This is one of the interviews that began with "I'm running on very little sleep, be gentle with me...

Baez speaks briefly right at the beginning of the video, and though I've listen to his words several times, what he says just makes no sense at all. But listening to the video and to how Cindy was back then, is just something.

http://amomandherblog.com/?p=1163

Good morning all. O/T for just a minute. I pray that all the Dallas metroplex peeps are safe today. Had one HECK of a stormy night with tornados and the whole nine yards! Cannot WAIT to get back to Ohio where there are basements! LOL!

Okay, back on topic. I keep this same video handy for those who come on here and feel sorry for Cindy. It is a reminder that Cindy was nasty from the get-go and had no intention of having any kind of focus taken away from HER!

This particular video makes me ill.

[Pam1569]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

[msgatorslayer]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

:thumbsup:Doc dump Friday!!!

[5boxersmom]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

Thanks for the link. So we get 1000 pages of docs tomorrow. :thumbup:

[neid_77]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.


how can they release it if there is now a motion pending about the release?

not that i agree about not seeing the autopsy but is there going to be a motion about every doc dump here on out?

[spiritwolf46]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.



Thanx, Pam!

DOC DUMP!

[Pam1569]

how can they release it if there is now a motion pending about the release?

not that i agree about not seeing the autopsy but is there going to be a motion about every doc dump here on out?

Hi neid, The motion was from Brad and not from JB. I think the judge can state that the motion is moot without having a hearing. jmo

[msgatorslayer]

I'm more interesting in the rest of the docs than the autopsy. There was nothing but bones and hair left for Dr. G to autopsy.:sad:

[Pam1569]

Your welcome everyone for the news about the doc dump. Maybe it will be a good Friday after all. :smile:

[spiritwolf46]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

Okay, I have a question now that I think of it. Since WHEN is it up to the Anthonys to do something like this??? Isn't or shouldn't it be up to the OC and Baez?

[Motomom]

Okay, I have a question now that I think of it. Since WHEN is it up to the Anthonys to do something like this??? Isn't or shouldn't it be up to the OC and Baez?

Hi everyone. I always come back just in time for a document release..Getting caught up reading and I wonder the same thing. Shouldn't that be Casey's motion?

[5boxersmom]

Okay, I have a question now that I think of it. Since WHEN is it up to the Anthonys to do something like this??? Isn't or shouldn't it be up to the OC and Baez?

That's what I was wondering. :confused:

[saywhat04]

Okay, I have a question now that I think of it. Since WHEN is it up to the Anthonys to do something like this??? Isn't or shouldn't it be up to the OC and Baez?

It's ridiculous, imo. The Anthonys don't have to read a word of any evidence they choose not to.

This is another ploy, imo. The A's want desperately to continue the ruse Caylee suffered some not-to-be-discussed "terminal event" brought about by some not-yet-identified perpetrator. Bee. Ess.

[Pam1569]

Okay, I have a question now that I think of it. Since WHEN is it up to the Anthonys to do something like this??? Isn't or shouldn't it be up to the OC and Baez?

Hi spirit, Exactly BC has nothing to do with this case. It would have to come from JB in order to be sealed per the law.

[neid_77]

Hi neid, The motion was from Brad and not from JB. I think the judge can state that the motion is moot without having a hearing. jmo

Hi!! Pam hope all is well!!!:thumbsup:

[spiritwolf46]

Hi everyone. I always come back just in time for a document release..Getting caught up reading and I wonder the same thing. Shouldn't that be Casey's motion?

The only thing that I can think of is that "entitlement" issue that they seem to have, but for Conway to actually do this, it is so beyond my comprehension.

[msgatorslayer]

It's ridiculous, imo. The Anthonys don't have to read a word of any evidence they choose not to.

This is another ploy, imo. The A's want desperately to continue the ruse Caylee suffered some not-to-be-discussed "terminal event" brought about by some not-yet-identified perpetrator. Bee. Ess.

Because of their Daughter, there is nothing but bones left. Is that what they don't want to hear on the news tommorrow?

We know George has a problem hearing the words 'remains'. And Cindy doesn't like to hear the word 'murder'.

[saywhat04]

Hi spirit, Exactly BC has nothing to do with this case. It would have to come from JB in order to be sealed per the law.

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?

[Pam1569]

Hi!! Pam hope all is well!!!:thumbsup:

neid great now with the new docs coming. :thumbsup:

[saywhat04]

Because of their Daughter, there is nothing but bones left. Is that what they don't want to hear on the news tommorrow?

We know George has a problem hearing the words 'remains'. And Cindy doesn't like to hear the word 'murder'.

Yep. And too bad, too sad for Cindy and George. The baby was MURDERED. And what was left of her in December was REMAINS. If anyone else was sitting in the OC jail besides their OC, I'm sure this ridiculous motion would not have been entered.

Conway is an embarrassment. imo

[spiritwolf46]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?


I have the exact same recollection. Thanx for the reminder. ;)

[msgatorslayer]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?

That sounds right.

Because autopsy photos or videos are no longer public record, under the Dale Earnhart Law. To my knowledge, an actual written report of the autopsy is still public record.

[saywhat04]

That sounds right.

Because autopsy photos or videos are no longer public record, under the Dale Earnhart Law. To my knowledge, an actual written report of the autopsy is still public record.

It appears George and Cindy need to be reminded, yet again, this isn't about THEM.

:angry:

[Tia]

Because of their Daughter, there is nothing but bones left. Is that what they don't want to hear on the news tommorrow?

We know George has a problem hearing the words 'remains'. And Cindy doesn't like to hear the word 'murder'.


As always, its all about hiding the truth about what Casey did from the public.

This is a case where I honestly believe that the public should know every horrible thing that Casey did to little Caylee.

No mercy for Casey.

[msgatorslayer]

Yep. And too bad, too sad for Cindy and George. The baby was MURDERED. And what was left of her in December was REMAINS. If anyone else was sitting in the OC jail besides their OC, I'm sure this ridiculous motion would not have been entered.

Conway is an embarrassment. imo

I do find it funny though that Conway filed it for the Anthony's, instead of Baez, for Casey. You'd think he would at least try, ya know?

[spiritwolf46]

It appears George and Cindy need to be reminded, yet again, this isn't about THEM.

:angry:



I hope that they ARE reminded by Strickland (sp?) and I hope that Conway is too! Seems to me that he needs to be slaped down a few rungs on the ladder!

The players in this case NEVER cease to amaze, do they?

[saywhat04]

I do find it funny though that Conway filed it for the Anthony's, instead of Baez, for Casey. You'd think he would at least try, ya know?

I've temporarily lost my sense of humor. :cursing: I'll hunt for it in a minute ...

Conway continues to try to cash in on the misguided pity party he's been throwing for George and Cindy since December 11th.

Maybe he's still cocky from the "no charges will be filed" decision earlier in the week regarding the Midnight Ride of George, Cindy & the Milsteads.

[court~critic1®]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?



That is what I recall as well. JB was ordered to set up a seperate web site for those. I wonder if he ever did, or was it like everything else JB was supose to do. Never done.

JBs new theme song. "Nobody Knows the trouble I've Seen"


Will these doc dumps be like the last ones?? We have yet to see those. uumm

[Pam1569]

I do find it funny though that Conway filed it for the Anthony's, instead of Baez, for Casey. You'd think he would at least try, ya know?

Hi msgator, I think imo that JB doesn't think the layman will understand the reports so why not let them be released. jmo

[martha]

Oh my how cindy did act to the reporters. Caylee;s picture has been out all this time. Casey knew where caylee was she put her there and she did not tell le or anyone that she dumped her close to their home. I think c and g and lee knew casey had sone something to caylee from the very start. The car smell told them caylee was dead. I would have pulled casey hair out and she would have told me where caylee's body was. I would be in jail now for what I would have done to casey had I been her mother.jmho

[spiritwolf46]

I do find it funny though that Conway filed it for the Anthony's, instead of Baez, for Casey. You'd think he would at least try, ya know?

Baez just may be getting the ole beat down from LKB and Lyons. It would be just way to funny if he was told to sit down and shut it now that they are on board.

[saywhat04]

I hope that they ARE reminded by Strickland (sp?) and I hope that Conway is too! Seems to me that he needs to be slaped down a few rungs on the ladder!

The players in this case NEVER cease to amaze, do they?

Nope.

And part of what's amazing is they think they're putting something over on people. Like people don't see the intent of every single one of their actions, and know their intent is never, EVER to honor the memory of Caylee, or even acknowledge how she was robbed of her life, and by whom.

:cursing:

[martha]

It appears George and Cindy need to be reminded, yet again, this isn't about THEM.

:angry:I T A with you. It is about a sweet little girl that was killed with out a reason only because her mother and gm could not get along. Now here I go ranting again I get so up set when I listen to cindy talk. I wish I had not listen to her again. I think the pub.needs to know all about the whole a family and all their stuff that has gone on in that house. I hope at trial every little thing comes out. I am just sick of the lies and all the lawyers taken up for the a and for casey.jmho

[saywhat04]

Can we assume the defense team and Conway/the A's have seen the discovery to be released tomorrow? Or is it only being released to the defense tomorrow?

Anyone?

[Daffodil]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.



Wow, unbelievable once again. It is a public record, of course it will be released. They seem like the release of this is the worst thing that cuould happen to them. Worse than Caylee being murdered. Worse than their daughter in jail accused of murdering their grandchild. Worse than their daughter may likely get the DP. How could the autopsy results be any worse than what we already know?

From the article:

"In a motion filed by their attorney, George and Cindy Anthony argue that "the information contained within in the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

I have a feeling that Jose is directing Brad on what to do now that his hands are tied with Lyon in charge now.

[5boxersmom]

I predict the defense will be making the some media appearances today or tomorrow talking about the "leaks" in the case. Oh and I also bet Baez will be on Geraldo this weekend. :biggrin:

Happens everytime there is a doc release.

jmo

[martha]

Nope.

And part of what's amazing is they think they're putting something over on people. Like people don't see the intent of every single one of their actions, and know their intent is never, EVER to honor the memory of Caylee, or even acknowledge how she was robbed of her life, and by whom.

:cursing: ITA if they all loved Caylee so much they sure or not showing it now. They all just want to get casey off. if she did not do this then they need to find who did. jmho

[saywhat04]

I T A with you. It is about a sweet little girl that was killed with out a reason only because her mother and gm could not get along. Now here I go ranting again I get so up set when I listen to cindy talk. I wish I had not listen to her again. I think the pub.needs to know all about the whole a family and all their stuff that has gone on in that house. I hope at trial every little thing comes out. I am just sick of the lies and all the lawyers taken up for the a and for casey.jmho

That's why I don't listen to or watch any of the audio or video links, Martha. :cursing:

I get upset just reading the latest and greatest ... I sure don't need to listen to or watch that bunch!

[FallenAngel♥]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

why would they want the autopsy sealed? i just don't get it.

[FallenAngel♥]

Can we assume the defense team and Conway/the A's have seen the discovery to be released tomorrow? Or is it only being released to the defense tomorrow?

Anyone?

Yep i think they found out something that might put the blame on Casey and they don't want the world to see it.

I can't wait to see what the docs have to say :thumbsup:

[saywhat04]

Wow, unbelievable once again. It is a public record, of course it will be released. They seem like the release of this is the worst thing that cuould happen to them. Worse than Caylee being murdered. Worse than their daughter in jail accused of murdering their grandchild. Worse than their daughter may likely get the DP. How could the autopsy results be any worse than what we already know?

From the article:

"In a motion filed by their attorney, George and Cindy Anthony argue that "the information contained within in the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

I have a feeling that Jose is directing Brad on what to do now that his hands are tied with Lyon in charge now.

Bolding mine ...

I can't answer that. And we don't know whether the A's have read the results or are making assumptions about what they contain.

One thing is for certain ... Cindy's been on the phone with BC, weeping and wailing.

" ... the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

Gee. Wonder if Caylee Anthony was caused great anguish in her last moments on this earth? :angry:

[Pam1569]

Nope.

And part of what's amazing is they think they're putting something over on people. Like people don't see the intent of every single one of their actions, and know their intent is never, EVER to honor the memory of Caylee, or even acknowledge how she was robbed of her life, and by whom.

:cursing:

Hi say, ITA when ever there is a doc dump coming we have had JB filing a motion or the A's doing something in the public to distract from the docs. This is just another ploy from the A's to not let this out or be seen to make their daughter any worse or her credibility any worse. I guess someone forgot to inform the A's that making their daughter look worse is not possible at this point. jmo

[norwood]

I have to be selfish and say I am glad the Doc Dump did not come out today. We have had storms since last night and only had power off and on. Tomorrow should be clear and I will be able , hopefully to read everything.

I do find it odd that the Anthony's would have BC file to seal the report on the autopsy.

Acutally, I am more interested in the interviews than I am the autopsy report unless that report reveals information on drugs.

[martha]

why would they want the autopsy sealed? i just don't get it. ITA there was nothing there and the autopsy has nothing but bones and some hair. I wish g and c would understand this is not about them. They need to understand this is about little Caylee and finding out the truth about what happened to her. c and g need to be standing up for Caylee not casey.jmho

[FallenAngel♥]

ITA there was nothing there and the autopsy has nothing but bones and some hair. I wish g and c would understand this is not about them. They need to understand this is about little Caylee and finding out the truth about what happened to her. c and g need to be standing up for Caylee not casey.jmho

ITA....

I wish Cindy's brother would show up and court every time to stand up for Caylee. Someone needs to because it's obvious now that George, Cindy and Lee sure aren't going to stand up for Caylee :(

[Daffodil]

ITA there was nothing there and the autopsy has nothing but bones and some hair. I wish g and c would understand this is not about them. They need to understand this is about little Caylee and finding out the truth about what happened to her. c and g need to be standing up for Caylee not casey.jmho



So, do you think they are making a fuss about the autopsy report being released to take our attention away from some other piece of incriminating evidence?

[spiritwolf46]

ITA if they all loved Caylee so much they sure or not showing it now. They all just want to get casey off. if she did not do this then they need to find who did. jmho

I agree, Martha, and they have NEVER tried to find the "real killer". Seems like a page from the O.J. book, if ya ask me.

[AMS]

The only thing that I can think of is that "entitlement" issue that they seem to have, but for Conway to actually do this, it is so beyond my comprehension.

Hi spirit - I hope baby duty is going well. It is entitlement imo. Cindy does think she is in charge...


imo

[BlueHeron]

So, do you think they are making a fuss about the autopsy report being released to take our attention away from some other piece of incriminating evidence?

yup.....:sleep:

[spiritwolf46]

ITA....

I wish Cindy's brother would show up and court every time to stand up for Caylee. Someone needs to because it's obvious now that George, Cindy and Lee sure aren't going to stand up for Caylee :(

Hiya, Fallen!

I wish either he or Cindy's parents would show up for that little girl. You are right, the other will NEVER support that little baby. Ever! :angry:

[CelticDawn]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.



OH FGS!!!


whatEVER for???????

I thought there was not much evidence to be gleaned from the autopsy?....nothing incrimminating???? (according to THEM).....

so....


THEY are doing this to take our attention away from something ELSE they or their spawn has done.

[*MoonRider*]

It appears George and Cindy need to be reminded, yet again, this isn't about THEM.

:angry:

We certainly don't want to upset the Anthony's. Why delay the inevitable? What could possibly be worse than the triple bag, duct tape and heart sticker.

[spiritwolf46]

Hi spirit - I hope baby duty is going well. It is entitlement imo. Cindy does think she is in charge...


imo

Thanks, sweetie! All well! ;)

Yup! Cindy DOES think that she is in charge! It is all about THEM and the OC. Breaks my heart that this little one is never thought of, but then again, if they ever did that, they would have to admit the OC did it and it would look bad on THEM! This is what it is all about. How dare anyone think they had a hand in this horrible crime with the way they raised the OC!

I got news for them, they DO look horrible and always will! Some things just never sink in with those vile people and never will. The majority of this Country and other Countries know exactly what they are all about. Doesn't take a rocket scientist, does it?

[Dick Tracy]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents.

OH! So now the Anthony's are jumping back into the fire again. And for what? To tell the world that the autopsy will cause them anguish? Get over it. Caylee (may she rest in peace) is dead. They don't have anything to do with the case. They are a third party to the STATE of FLORIDA VS CASEY ANTHONY. They are not involved. They want to be. They want to desperately be in the middle of all this. More TV time. More lights, camera, action. More crab puffs courtesy of ABC. More jaunts across the country to LA, and up to NYC.

I can just see JB on Geraldo this weekend. The state thumbs their nose at the Anthony's and releases the autopsy findings. It's not like this little girl was royalty or anything.

I wish I had a little girl. I'd name her Caylee. Caylee Marie.........

The Anthony's are more than strange. I'd rather watch that Disney Mousetrap movie over and over than watch Cindy Anthony on TV for one minute. No kidding.

[spiritwolf46]

Anyone think that Strickland will ask Conway what business he has filing this motion?

I sure hope he does! I would LOVE it!

[Daffodil]

OH! So now the Anthony's are jumping back into the fire again. And for what? To tell the world that the autopsy will cause them anguish? Get over it. Caylee (may she rest in peace) is dead. They don't have anything to do with the case. They are a third party to the STATE of FLORIDA VS CASEY ANTHONY. They are not involved. They want to be. They want to desperately be in the middle of all this. More TV time. More lights, camera, action. More crab puffs courtesy of ABC. More jaunts across the country to LA, and up to NYC.

I can just see JB on Geraldo this weekend. The state thumbs their nose at the Anthony's and releases the autopsy findings. It's not like this little girl was royalty or anything.


The Anthony's are more than strange. I'd rather watch that Disney Mousetrap movie over and over than watch Cindy Anthony on TV for one minute. No kidding.


I have a feeling JB won't be on Geraldo. I think Andrea Lyons has a tight leash on him.

[desmom]

More Anthony Discovery To Be Released
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html

According to the motion, "As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Conway's motion said the release of the results would cause the family "great anguish."

The Anthonys acknowledge that the results will eventually be released during the trial, but object to them being released during discovery. They believe that releasing the results to the media will cause endless comments and speculation on TV and the Internet.

The prosecutor's office said it plans to proceed with the release unless a judge intervenes.

Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said the results contain her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee.

[spiritwolf46]

More Anthony Discovery To Be Released
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html

According to the motion, "As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Conway's motion said the release of the results would cause the family "great anguish."

The Anthonys acknowledge that the results will eventually be released during the trial, but object to them being released during discovery. They believe that releasing the results to the media will cause endless comments and speculation on TV and the Internet.The prosecutor's office said it plans to proceed with the release unless a judge intervenes.

Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said the results contain her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee.

Bolding mine:

And THERE YA HAVE IT! That one sentence speaks VOLUMES! All about THEM!

[Pam1569]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?

Hi say, Had to go look it up. But yes at the hearing on January 8th Strickland did rule the photos of the autopsy sealed.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

just scroll down to January 8th.

Also here is the motion that the prosecution filed in December.
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0106/18424883.pdf

[saywhat04]

More Anthony Discovery To Be Released
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html

According to the motion, "As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Conway's motion said the release of the results would cause the family "great anguish."

The Anthonys acknowledge that the results will eventually be released during the trial, but object to them being released during discovery. They believe that releasing the results to the media will cause endless comments and speculation on TV and the Internet.

The prosecutor's office said it plans to proceed with the release unless a judge intervenes.

Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said the results contain her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee.

I will be freaking BESIDE MYSELF if the judge delays the release of the autopsy results.

It is high time G&C were put on notice that this ISN'T about them, and no matter their charade, the state isn't playing along.

Release the results. Let's see Dr. G's "strong opinion." IT'S ABOUT TIME.

[FallenAngel♥]

Hiya, Fallen!

I wish either he or Cindy's parents would show up for that little girl. You are right, the other will NEVER support that little baby. Ever! :angry:

Hey Spirit, great to see you.

I have to wonder what's in those docs that the A's are afraid for us to see.

They need to realize they live in the sunshine state and we have the right to see everything.

It breaks my heart to see grandparents push their grand daughter aside just do save the daughter that killed her.

[spiritwolf46]

I will be freaking BESIDE MYSELF if the judge delays the release of the autopsy results.

It is high time G&C were put on notice that this ISN'T about them, and no matter their charade, the state isn't playing along.

Release the results. Let's see Dr. G's "strong opinion." IT'S ABOUT TIME.

I wish that Strickland would land on them HARD and say "This is NOT about YOU and the Sunshine Law states that these things are to be released and that is exactly what will be"!

I can wish, can't I?

[desmom]

Are G & C custodians to Caylee's remains? Would that require some type of legal document signed by Casey?


From February 9, 2009:

Casey Anthony's Statement On Caylee's Memorial
http://www.wftv.com/news/18675431/detail.html

This is a statement by my client and she's authorized me to a make a statement to the public with regards to tomorrow's memorial.

I miss Caylee every day and every minute of every day. I can't be there for Caylee's funeral, but some day I want to go and visit her grave and tell her how much I miss her.

I allowed my parents to be in charge for the funeral for Caylee. I told them I wanted her buried in a casket and I wanted there to be a gravestone so I could go and visit her. I asked them if there could only be a private funeral for just the family.

I know they cremated her. I still don't want a public event with cameras and everybody around for Caylee's service, but I can't stop my parents from doing what they want. I truly hope that it will help them.

[margaritaville]

Read the reviews......

I can see why it is closed down.. (or so i heard)

http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/132116/Orlando/Fusion-Nightclub

[WillowInFlight]

Anyone think that Strickland will ask Conway what business he has filing this motion?

I sure hope he does! I would LOVE it!

Hey Sweetpea, amazing isn't it??? Hard to believe we are coming up on a year. I wish this trial would get get going so that justice can finally be served. I wonder if Baez is still feeding Casey's head with the fantasy that she is going to get off and be freed. I hope so.

[neid_77]

Bolding mine:

And THERE YA HAVE IT! That one sentence speaks VOLUMES! All about THEM!

I agree!!! all that matters is there image and how they are looked upon and their precious innocent little gag me princess how could they treat her like this...she is just so mistreated her rights are stepped on...and her rights are written in stone with gold how could they ever do that.......all while the shame and disgrace the memory of that precious little CAYLEE!!!!!!! There is just not one word to tottally describe their deplorable actions!!:cursing:


For ever and always Caylee Marie:wub:

[spiritwolf46]

Hey Spirit, great to see you.

I have to wonder what's in those docs that the A's are afraid for us to see.

They need to realize they live in the sunshine state and we have the right to see everything.

It breaks my heart to see grandparents push their grand daughter aside just do save the daughter that killed her.

Great to see you, too!

I SO agree! My heart aches for that little girl every single day!

[saywhat04]

Hi say, Had to go look it up. But yes at the hearing on January 8th Strickland did rule the photos of the autopsy sealed.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

just scroll down to January 8th.

Also here is the motion that the prosecution filed in December.
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0106/18424883.pdf

Thanks, Pam. :wub:

I'd actually forgotten it was the STATE who requested the special handling of the autopsy photos and photos from the discovery site.

They were making the point that since it appeared the defense was selling Caylee photos to support itself, what was to stop them from selling autopsy photos to the media. lol

[MiamiNice1]

Hey Sweetpea, amazing isn't it??? Hard to believe we are coming up on a year. I wish this trial would get get going so that justice can finally be served. I wonder if Baez is still feeding Casey's head with the fantasy that she is going to get off and be freed. I hope so.
(bolding mine) I really believe this is the case, willow. Casey thinks she will be getting off and going home.

I also believe this was the source of George and Cindy upset before the last hearing and their shaking heads/looks of disgust towards Lyon. I feel that Lyon informed them of reality - that "getting off" for Casey only means no Death Penalty - that "getting off" for Casey means LWOP - NOT "going home."

imo

[saywhat04]

Hey Spirit, great to see you.

I have to wonder what's in those docs that the A's are afraid for us to see.

They need to realize they live in the sunshine state and we have the right to see everything.

It breaks my heart to see grandparents push their grand daughter aside just do save the daughter that killed her.

I think they're afraid to see Dr. Garavaglia's strong opinion on the autopsy results.

Edited to add: They're afraid to see it out in the public domain, is what I meant to say.

[spiritwolf46]

Hey Sweetpea, amazing isn't it??? Hard to believe we are coming up on a year. I wish this trial would get get going so that justice can finally be served. I wonder if Baez is still feeding Casey's head with the fantasy that she is going to get off and be freed. I hope so.



Hiya Willow!!!!!!!

Sure is amazing! I, too, PRAY that the OC is thinking every minute that she will be getting out of this. Only because, like you, she will be in for the biggest let down of her rotten life! And when all of her appeals are gone, and she is still behing bars porking out on her pork rinds, it hits her like a ton of bricks that her life is over as she once knew it.

Do you think that when she is found guilty, she will ACT (and I mean ACT) like she is suicidal for more attention?

[saywhat04]

I wish that Strickland would land on them HARD and say "This is NOT about YOU and the Sunshine Law states that these things are to be released and that is exactly what will be"!

I can wish, can't I?

Yes, my friend ... you can wish. :wub:

Unfortunately, I think Judge Stan would take some heat if he was "mean to" the A's. In addition, I have yet to see the man come down hard on anyone. (And if ever there was a likely candidate, it would be Jose, imo.)

[5boxersmom]

I think they're afraid to see Dr. Garavaglia's strong opinion on the autopsy results.

Edited to add: They're afraid to see it out in the public domain, is what I meant to say.

Would the Anthony's already know what the autopsy report says?

tia

[breezie]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection?


Same recall, SW. Now maybe we will learn what Dr. G couldn't tell us at the press conference about why she declared this a homicide. And the Anthonys feeling anquish? Well, you reap what you sow. Not too many folks probably care anymore. All I care about is justice for Caylee.

[spiritwolf46]

I agree!!! all that matters is there image and how they are looked upon and their precious innocent little gag me princess how could they treat her like this...she is just so mistreated her rights are stepped on...and her rights are written in stone with gold how could they ever do that.......all while the shame and disgrace the memory of that precious little CAYLEE!!!!!!! There is just not one word to tottally describe their deplorable actions!!:cursing:


For ever and always Caylee Marie:wub:

Exactly, neid! There is little doubt in my mind that the OC is is blaming ALL on that little girl! Like, "How DARE she get me into this mess"! Seems like that type of thinking would be right up her alley! SHE should not be in jail! How dare the State keep her there. How dare LE not look for the REAL killer! She thinks, acts, talks, walks the lines of her other family members. I have said this over and over again, but once again, I have NEVER, in my life, seen a whole, entire family that were as nuts as the next one in that family.

I am just thankful that they have all been exposed for who they truly are. It is just so unfortunate that a little girl had to pay the price for it. :crying:

[WillowInFlight]

(bolding mine) I really believe this is the case, willow. Casey thinks she will be getting off and going home.

I also believe this was the source of George and Cindy upset before the last hearing and their shaking heads/looks of disgust towards Lyon. I feel that Lyon informed them of reality - that "getting off" for Casey only means no Death Penalty - that "getting off" for Casey means LWOP - NOT "going home."

imo

ITA, I think Casey thinks this is just a bump in the road for her, I just read the post where Casey says she wants to visit Caylee's grave one day, so truly, she is delusional. I think she really believes she's innocent. She's in for a huge smack of reality once this trial starts.

[spiritwolf46]

Yes, my friend ... you can wish. :wub:

Unfortunately, I think Judge Stan would take some heat if he was "mean to" the A's. In addition, I have yet to see the man come down hard on anyone. (And if ever there was a likely candidate, it would be Jose, imo.)

So very true, Say. I think that it is just about time that he got his head out of where ever it is and told the A's, Conway AND Baez just how things are going to be!

What a GREAT day that would be!!!!!

[saywhat04]

Would the Anthony's already know what the autopsy report says?

tia

I think so. I think it's released to the defense (which apparently includes Conway and the A's) a day or so prior to release to the media.

[nana6]

She got there just in time for "last call for alcohol".

Hi Lavinia, I have not been on here in so long. I think just too much with the little girl from Detroit. Anyway, I am back today and agree with you. Yes, Casey has had her last call for alcohol.

[spiritwolf46]

Would the Anthony's already know what the autopsy report says?

tia

WOW! That is a VERY good question! I wonder if Conway told them what is said? But then again, how would HE know? Only the DA would know, right?

Anyone?

[saywhat04]

WOW! That is a VERY good question! I wonder if Conway told them what is said? But then again, how would HE know? Only the DA would know, right?

Anyone?

I *think* the defense gets a copy ahead of release to the media/public, spirit.

[spiritwolf46]

I *think* the defense gets a copy ahead of release to the media/public, spirit.



Thank you, say. :seeya:

[spiritwolf46]

Hi Lavinia, I have not been on here in so long. I think just too much with the little girl from Detroit. Anyway, I am back today and agree with you. Yes, Casey has had her last call for alcohol.



Welcome back, nana. Good to see you!

[nana6]

Hiya Willow!!!!!!!

Sure is amazing! I, too, PRAY that the OC is thinking every minute that she will be getting out of this. Only because, like you, she will be in for the biggest let down of her rotten life! And when all of her appeals are gone, and she is still behing bars porking out on her pork rinds, it hits her like a ton of bricks that her life is over as she once knew it.

Do you think that when she is found guilty, she will ACT (and I mean ACT) like she is suicidal for more attention?


We may very well see an academy award

[*MoonRider*]

Would the Anthony's already know what the autopsy report says?

tia

I would say yes. Jose gets the docs before the public. I'm sure Baez has shared with Conway. imo

[neid_77]

Thank you, say. :seeya:

spirit i love the little saying you have at the bottom your qoute so true ....something to be so proud of!!! their duaghter a model inmate at OCSO yup instead of being a honor grad or promotions for jobs they can only brag about that wonderful attitude and excellent behavior in a county jail!! puke

always Caylee Marie:wub:

[WillowInFlight]

Hiya Willow!!!!!!!

Sure is amazing! I, too, PRAY that the OC is thinking every minute that she will be getting out of this. Only because, like you, she will be in for the biggest let down of her rotten life! And when all of her appeals are gone, and she is still behing bars porking out on her pork rinds, it hits her like a ton of bricks that her life is over as she once knew it.

Do you think that when she is found guilty, she will ACT (and I mean ACT) like she is suicidal for more attention?

You know for some reason once the trial is done and over with I think the names Cindy, George and Casey Anthony will remain in the news for a long time to come, it will be their doing of course. Yes she will ACT, but she will never follow through.

I hope she is haunted for the rest of her life with the image of Caylee being tossed in the woods like garbage, she had a choice. This never should have ended this way. I'm done believing this was an accident. IMHO this was nothing more than getting back at Cindy and making her suffer. Poor Caylee paid the price for Casey's evilness.

[5boxersmom]

I think so. I think it's released to the defense (which apparently includes Conway and the A's) a day or so prior to release to the media.

Thanks. So the motion was filed today? Why didn't they file it earlier? They must have just saw it in the past few days.

jmo

[nana6]

Welcome back, nana. Good to see you!

Thank you Spirit. I have missed you all here. Like I said I just got so upset about the numbers of children who have gone missing . I thought it best to j ust stay away for a little bit. But, I am back and happy to be here once again.:smile:

[Pam1569]

WOW! That is a VERY good question! I wonder if Conway told them what is said? But then again, how would HE know? Only the DA would know, right?

Anyone?

Hi spirit and 5boxers,

If BC has been in contact and updated by JB on the 10 doc dumps that the defense has gotten and the public hasn't maybe this is how BC knows what is in the report. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

You know for some reason once the trial is done and over with I think the names Cindy, George and Casey Anthony will remain in the news for a long time to come, it will be their doing of course. Yes she will ACT, but she will never follow through.

I hope she is haunted for the rest of her life with the image of Caylee being tossed in the woods like garbage, she had a choice. This never should have ended this way. I'm done believing this was an accident. IMHO this was nothing more than getting back at Cindy and making her suffer. Poor Caylee paid the price for Casey's evilness.

Bolding mine:

This would mean that the OC has a conscience and we all know that she doesn't, so I am very much doubting that this will happen. I totally agree though, that hoping she is haunted every day of her rotten life with those images would fall right on her. Sadly though, I think that the OC will blame that little girl for the rest of her evil life. :angry:

That little one never, ever had a chance in life. Unfortunately, it seems that she would have been a victim of ALL of the A's no matter what.

So very very sad.

[saywhat04]

Thanks. So the motion was filed today? Why didn't they file it earlier? They must have just saw it in the past few days.

jmo

Yeah, I don't think they get much of a heads up -- maybe a day or so. Plus, none of the attorneys involved thus far (possible exception being Lyon, jury is still out) seem to have much sense of urgency around filings. They get to it when they get to it.

This latest by Conway is bogus, and it's just so typical that the A's concern is about "endless speculation" about the autopsy results on TV and the internet.

Too bad. Imo, the public should read the medical examiner's "strong opinion" about the autopsy results. They are about CAYLEE, and what happened to CAYLEE. CAYLEE, the victim.

[spiritwolf46]

spirit i love the little saying you have at the bottom your qoute so true ....something to be so proud of!!! their duaghter a model inmate at OCSO yup instead of being a honor grad or promotions for jobs they can only brag about that wonderful attitude and excellent behavior in a county jail!! puke

always Caylee Marie:wub:

Thank you, neid!

Fits them to a "T", doesn't it?

[101Spots]

Bolding mine ...

I can't answer that. And we don't know whether the A's have read the results or are making assumptions about what they contain.

One thing is for certain ... Cindy's been on the phone with BC, weeping and wailing.

" ... the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

Gee. Wonder if Caylee Anthony was caused great anguish in her last moments on this earth? :angry:

One can infer that the report will *not* cause great anguish to the Anthony family when it's released at the trial.

What's the difference? Then, now - it's coming out one way or another.

[neid_77]

Thank you, neid!

Fit them to a "T", doesn't it?

yup yup yup!! :biggrin:


Caylee Marie:wub:

[5boxersmom]

Hi spirit and 5boxers,

If BC has been in contact and updated by JB on the 10 doc dumps that the defense has gotten and the public hasn't maybe this is how BC knows what is in the report. jmo

Hi Pam

Yep I bet they share info. :rolleyes:

jmo

[saywhat04]

One can infer that the report will *not* cause great anguish to the Anthony family when it's released at the trial.

What's the difference? Then, now - it's coming out one way or another.

I suspect Cindy's pitching a fit, and Conway's doing as he's told. Simple as that.

[101Spots]

I will be freaking BESIDE MYSELF if the judge delays the release of the autopsy results.

It is high time G&C were put on notice that this ISN'T about them, and no matter their charade, the state isn't playing along.

Release the results. Let's see Dr. G's "strong opinion." IT'S ABOUT TIME.

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseprettyplease.

[saywhat04]

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseprettyplease.

I'm on my knees right beside you, spots.

[ladeebug565]

ITA. As we now know, Cindy was all about keeping those skeletons inside the walls of that house. Bet Casey deliberately took her ranting, cursing and screaming out front just to further upset her mother.

Poor Caylee. :sad:

Who's to say that Cindy didn't order Casey out of the house that night she last saw Caylee? She had put up with Casey's lying and stealing all along, why would stealing from the grandparents be any different? If Cindy was concerned about them leaving, she could've easily said "leave, but not in my car" or better yet, "you can take the car, but you'll leave Caylee here". Cindy's primary motivation in all of this, the lying, the defending, the making a fool of herself, the hostility, may be the result of pure guilt. What if they find out the awful truth about me?

[5boxersmom]

Yeah, I don't think they get much of a heads up -- maybe a day or so. Plus, none of the attorneys involved thus far (possible exception being Lyon, jury is still out) seem to have much sense of urgency around filings. They get to it when they get to it.

This latest by Conway is bogus, and it's just so typical that the A's concern is about "endless speculation" about the autopsy results on TV and the internet.

Too bad. Imo, the public should read the medical examiner's "strong opinion" about the autopsy results. They are about CAYLEE, and what happened to CAYLEE. CAYLEE, the victim.

ITA. I just wonder why they didn't try to have the report sealed at the same time they sealed the photos?

It is almost like they get jealous if Caylee gets any attention. Wonder if they were always like that? hmmmmm
jmo

[Unleashed]

So, do you think they are making a fuss about the autopsy report being released to take our attention away from some other piece of incriminating evidence?

I wasn't asked, but I do. Absitively posolutely. :sneaky:

JMO

[Sandy001]

I'm not giving Casey a free pass....but can you imagine living in a house with Cindy. Here's the scenario at that house as I see it. Casy and Cindy are fighting almost constantly. George, trying to be helpful, jumps in on Cindy's side and they both turn on him. I think Lee is the "good" child, Casey is the "bad" child and George is the "whipping boy."

[KittyMom]

How will the A's motion affect the defense? Can Lyons/Baez/Baden use this to their advantage? I'm just wondering if they have decided to cast reasonable doubt, wouldn't this work into a plan of throwing Cindy/George under the bus. Point out how negative they were toward Casey, how they took charge of Caylee, and even talked to a counselor about taking Caylee away from Casey. They had a key to Casey's car and Cindy has said she had contact info on ZFG. Now, they don't even want the results released.

Does this make sense? :confused:

[True2Blues]

Yeah, I don't think they get much of a heads up -- maybe a day or so. Plus, none of the attorneys involved thus far (possible exception being Lyon, jury is still out) seem to have much sense of urgency around filings. They get to it when they get to it.

This latest by Conway is bogus, and it's just so typical that the A's concern is about "endless speculation" about the autopsy results on TV and the internet.

Too bad. Imo, the public should read the medical examiner's "strong opinion" about the autopsy results. They are about CAYLEE, and what happened to CAYLEE. CAYLEE, the victim.


Unfortunately, none of the A's will ever understand that.

[cassidy]

I have a feeling JB won't be on Geraldo. I think Andrea Lyons has a tight leash on him.

Oh yeah. Tight leash and even tighter muzzle. Jose's been put in his place.

IMO

[101Spots]

I'm on my knees right beside you, spots.

Good. You take pages 1-500, I'll do 501-1000. We'll *find* that report!

[101Spots]

Here's the scenario at that house as I see it. Casy and Cindy are fighting almost constantly. George, trying to be helpful, jumps in on Cindy's side and they both turn on him. I think Lee is the "good" child, Casey is the "bad" child and George is the "whipping boy."

Where do you sign up for a turn with the whip? I've got a few questions I'd like ol' Georgie to answer.

[spiritwolf46]

Oh yeah. Tight leash and even tighter muzzle. Jose's been put in his place.

IMO

I think that he has been put into his place, to, Cassidy! Haven't heard or seen much from him as of late.

[spiritwolf46]

Gonna head out for a while. Have a terrific afternoon and will catch up with ya a little later. :wub:

[Sandy001]

It does sound that Cindy's usual practice was to walk away when the argument got overheated. She did that a lot when the spotlight was on her too. In interviews when she started to get angry she would threaten to walk away rather than to escalate the emotions, and look how often she would try to diffuse the anger when George or a demonstrator got out of control. We've seen her do it many times, and never have seen her get angry to the point of uncontrollable fury. We did see Casey on tape getting to that point however.

I'm suspicious of the choking incident anyway, since there are only two witnesses to it and neither is credible. Given Cindy's way of dealing with arguments it seems more likely to me that she got so furious with Casey that she screamed she would really like to choke her, or something to that effect. Whoever was the next person Casey saw - sounds like it might have been Lee - got the edited version. You know how Casey loves 'DRAMMMMMMA!!!', and she no doubt needed to put out a story that made her look good and Cindy look bad, figuring that Cindy would probably be telling her own version.

That's assuming, of course, that there even was an argument. Since Cindy denies it and Casey isn't likely to testify, I don't know how it can even be brought out in testimony.

I think Cindy would only "walk away" if there were observers. She morer than likely had to have the last word. She is not in control of her anger any more than George is. We have seen her in action too often. The moment she feels she is no longer contolling the situation is when she explods.

[Rapunzel]

I do find it funny though that Conway filed it for the Anthony's, instead of Baez, for Casey. You'd think he would at least try, ya know?


I would think it should be Conway. It is Cindy and George who want it sealed and he is their attorney. If Casey wanted it sealed then Baez would have to file it.

[cassidy]

I think that he has been put into his place, to, Cassidy! Haven't heard or seen much from him as of late.

LOL Can't imagine that he likes it much.

[kanzz]

Here's the scenario at that house as I see it. Casy and Cindy are fighting almost constantly. George, trying to be helpful, jumps in on Cindy's side and they both turn on him. I think Lee is the "good" child, Casey is the "bad" child and George is the "whipping boy."

Could be. But I just don't see Ole Juvenile George defending Cindy. I can see him defending Casey... and both George and Casey turning on Cindy. Cindy's need to defend herself is just too great, imo.

[Rapunzel]

So, do you think they are making a fuss about the autopsy report being released to take our attention away from some other piece of incriminating evidence?


It won't matter we will dissect it all anyway...:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[saywhat04]

Who's to say that Cindy didn't order Casey out of the house that night she last saw Caylee? She had put up with Casey's lying and stealing all along, why would stealing from the grandparents be any different? If Cindy was concerned about them leaving, she could've easily said "leave, but not in my car" or better yet, "you can take the car, but you'll leave Caylee here". Cindy's primary motivation in all of this, the lying, the defending, the making a fool of herself, the hostility, may be the result of pure guilt. What if they find out the awful truth about me?

I'm not sure she feels guilt. She might ... I'm just not at all sure. Guilt would be a normal response under the circumstances. I haven't seen a normal response out of her yet. And I have never seen her so much as HINT at any level of responsibility for what has transpired. Just the opposite, in fact. When she's backed into a corner with her ridiculous accusations about people outside her home, she just as quickly finds someone INSIDE her home, other than herself, to point a finger at. Given enough time and a tight enough corner, she'd finger Caylee for bringing on her own murder. I truly believe that.

If it is guilt causing her behavior, I still have little sympathy. At the age of 50-51, as a wife, mother, grandmother, career RN, she should have a much better developed skill set for dealing with crises. Trying to deflect blame onto others, lying, being deceptive, attempting to manipulate, being combative and rude and disrespectful, destroying mementos other people have left NOT on her property ... these are not the behaviors of even a marginally functioning adult. If this is how she has dealt with trouble in her life, she should've sought counseling long, long ago.

I give a certain amount of leeway to young people who act out like Cindy has, but not to full-grown adults who have failed to ask for help with their own personality or emotional issues. As adults, it's our responsibility to get a clue before we hit middle age, imo. How could she hope to raise normal, healthy children with so many personal issues of her own?

Makes me NUTS. :mad:

[Katprint]

I particulary liked the part when Cindy was asked if she ever saw Zanny, and Cindy says that Casey knows who she handed Caylee over to and then says "I never met God but I know he exists".

Well, Cindy....that is exactly who your daughter gave Caylee to, "God"....
That reminds me of the recent Maryland plea deal. A mother pled guilty to a first degree felony count of child abuse resulting in death, but her plea deal includes a condition that the charges will be dropped "when" her son is resurrected.http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/cult.child.death/index.html

The Anthonys' attorneys need to explain to them about how trying to prove the existence of God in court and, more generally, invoking God in secular/nonreligious situations, are unsuccessful strategies.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Sandy001]

I almost wonder if Casey "tried" to make a bit of money by getting her friends to allow her to purchase all the tickets? (and Casey would then use Cindy's CC, and when Cindy got her statement... Cindy would likely hit the roof, or deny the charges to the CC company) And, Casey would then pocket the cash that her friends gave her for their tickets. But Casey's friends didn't allow Casey to do this.

I suspect that a bit of Casey's day, was spent figuring out how she was going to get some money. Casey worked all right. She "worked" HARD at ripping people off and making up stories. A job? No way. Prisons are full of repeat offenders just like her. You would think being caught about her grandparents money would have made her slow down. Obviously it didn't.

[kanzz]

Any chance George and Cindy are contesting this release of information because they are acting, more or less, as an extension of the defense team?

[imc_e]

Autopsy report: after losing our dear friend recently, his Mom told me it will take 10 weeks to get a copy of the autopsy report.

I assume the family has a right to apply for this report as soon as it is available.

In regard to Caylees report, I am thinking that toxicology reports would be included.

If it bothers the A's, they shouldn't read it, than again I think they HAVE already read it and they don't want US to read it.

JMO

[saywhat04]

ITA. I just wonder why they didn't try to have the report sealed at the same time they sealed the photos?

It is almost like they get jealous if Caylee gets any attention. Wonder if they were always like that? hmmmmm
jmo

It was the state who requested the photos be sealed (so as to prevent Team Casey from selling them like they'd sold so many others).

ITA about the jealousy. Another facet of their shameful behavior.

[Sandy001]

New from wesh news

Anthonys Want Autopsy Results Sealed
http://www.wesh.com/news/19724301/detail.html

I guess this either means we are going to have an emergency hearing or we are going to have new documents. I think they have earned the right to suffer this anguish, but I feel the results will probably be sealed. That's pretty standard stuff in a murder trial.

[Myka]

Nice, but I don't see Fusion Ultra Lounge listed...:lol::lol:

QUESTION

does anyone know if Fusion has security cameras inside of the club?

I would love to see OC on tape, dancing away, ugly coping while she is looking for Caylee

[Katprint]

One can infer that the report will *not* cause great anguish to the Anthony family when it's released at the trial.

What's the difference? Then, now - it's coming out one way or another.
The bruhaha makes me wonder what the autopsy report says. I previously figured it was mostly along the lines of, "Yup, a dead human skeleton. DNA says it's Caylee." I didn't think there would be enough left of the remains for there to be facts ascertained that could cause "great anguish to the Anthony family." Unlike, for example, the autopsy results of poor little Sandra Cantu. So now I find myself morbidly wondering what information was discovered about Caylee, other than her obviously not-alive remains?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[ladeebug565]

We certainly don't want to upset the Anthony's. Why delay the inevitable? What could possibly be worse than the triple bag, duct tape and heart sticker.

On Larry King, Conway denied that the sticker was placed over the duct tape. How would he know that with any level of certainty? My guess is that he (and the Anthony's) have already perused the autopsy report.

[Sandy001]

how can they release it if there is now a motion pending about the release?

not that i agree about not seeing the autopsy but is there going to be a motion about every doc dump here on out? I think we may have both - an emergency hearing (for which this motion should have been filed LONNNNGGG ago) and also a doc dump. The doc dump may be without the autopsy however. I am curious, however, what the Anthonys are afraid of since the body was mostly bones, some hair (and duct tape). I think maybe the pictures of the body with the duct tape might be considered too imflammatory. Bozo should have objected to this month ago. jmo

[*MoonRider*]

The bruhaha makes me wonder what the autopsy report says. I previously figured it was mostly along the lines up, "Yup, a dead human skeleton. DNA says it's Caylee." I didn't think there would be enough left of the remains for there to be facts ascertained that could cause "great anguish to the Anthony family." Unlike, for example, the autopsy results of poor little Sandra Cantu. So now I find myself morbidly wondering what information was discovered about Caylee, other than her obviously not-alive remains?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Does Brad Conway have any legal right on behalf of the A's to ask that the report be sealed until trial? The judge already ruled that the photos will be sealed. What could possibly be worse than what we already know?

[saywhat04]

That reminds me of the recent Maryland plea deal. A mother pled guilty to a first degree felony count of child abuse resulting in death, but her plea deal includes a condition that the charges will be dropped "when" her son is resurrected.http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/cult.child.death/index.html

The Anthonys' attorneys need to explain to them about how trying to prove the existence of God in court and, more generally, invoking God in secular/nonreligious situations, are unsuccessful strategies.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

... especially when your spawn is the daughter of Satan. :thumbdown:

[Barbara fl.]

That reminds me of the recent Maryland plea deal. A mother pled guilty to a first degree felony count of child abuse resulting in death, but her plea deal includes a condition that the charges will be dropped "when" her son is resurrected.http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/cult.child.death/index.html

The Anthonys' attorneys need to explain to them about how trying to prove the existence of God in court and, more generally, invoking God in secular/nonreligious situations, are unsuccessful strategies.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions



Extremely well said.....:thumbup:

[101Spots]

The bruhaha makes me wonder what the autopsy report says. I previously figured it was mostly along the lines up, "Yup, a dead human skeleton. DNA says it's Caylee." I didn't think there would be enough left of the remains for there to be facts ascertained that could cause "great anguish to the Anthony family." Unlike, for example, the autopsy results of poor little Sandra Cantu. So now I find myself morbidly wondering what information was discovered about Caylee, other than her obviously not-alive remains?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Do you think there's a chance the media attorney will be present at this hearing (should it happen) to give the public's side of the story? pleasepleaseplease

[Myka]

Oh yeah. Tight leash and even tighter muzzle. Jose's been put in his place.

IMO

don't forget the remote controlled shock collar :thumbsup:

[Daffodil]

I'm not sure she feels guilt. She might ... I'm just not at all sure. Guilt would be a normal response under the circumstances. I haven't seen a normal response out of her yet. And I have never seen her so much as HINT at any level of responsibility for what has transpired. Just the opposite, in fact. When she's backed into a corner with her ridiculous accusations about people outside her home, she just as quickly finds someone INSIDE her home, other than herself, to point a finger at. Given enough time and a tight enough corner, she'd finger Caylee for bringing on her own murder. I truly believe that.

If it is guilt causing her behavior, I still have little sympathy. At the age of 50-51, as a wife, mother, grandmother, career RN, she should have a much better developed skill set for dealing with crises. Trying to deflect blame onto others, lying, being deceptive, attempting to manipulate, being combative and rude and disrespectful, destroying mementos other people have left NOT on her property ... these are not the behaviors of even a marginally functioning adult. If this is how she has dealt with trouble in her life, she should've sought counseling long, long ago.

I give a certain amount of leeway to young people who act out like Cindy has, but not to full-grown adults who have failed to ask for help with their own personality or emotional issues. As adults, it's our responsibility to get a clue before we hit middle age, imo. How could she hope to raise normal, healthy children with so many personal issues of her own?

Makes me NUTS. :mad:



Hi SayWhat,

I have never believed that Cindy felt guilt about anything, let alone about this case.

I really don't have sympathy or empathy for her. I may sound cold hearted but believe me, I am not. She just doesn't get "life". She has no clue what it is about.

[saywhat04]

The bruhaha makes me wonder what the autopsy report says. I previously figured it was mostly along the lines up, "Yup, a dead human skeleton. DNA says it's Caylee." I didn't think there would be enough left of the remains for there to be facts ascertained that could cause "great anguish to the Anthony family." Unlike, for example, the autopsy results of poor little Sandra Cantu. So now I find myself morbidly wondering what information was discovered about Caylee, other than her obviously not-alive remains?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

The reports contain the ME's "strong opinion" ... I presume about how Caylee probably died.

[5boxersmom]

It was the state who requested the photos be sealed (so as to prevent Team Casey from selling them like they'd sold so many others).

ITA about the jealousy. Another facet of their shameful behavior.

Oh yea that is right. So they didn't file a motion about the pics but they do about the report? :confused:

[Daffodil]

It was the state who requested the photos be sealed (so as to prevent Team Casey from selling them like they'd sold so many others).

ITA about the jealousy. Another facet of their shameful behavior.



It is rather odd that the prosecution requested that the photos be sealed. You would think that it would have been the defense or the A's just to preserve her memory.

[saywhat04]

Oh yea that is right. So they didn't file a motion about the pics but they do about the report? :confused:

Imo, they're in full-blown damage control now. And good luck to them with that. Horse: miles from the barn. Ship: sailed around the world already. Twice.

I suspect Dr. G's opinion of what happened to Caylee does not speak at all well for the accused murderer. I suspect the "anguish" the release of the report would cause the A's has to do with that, rather than concern about having to imagine what Caylee faced in her last moments.

Despicable.

[Rapunzel]

BOMBSHELL!!!!!!

CASEY ANTHONY was voted inmate of the month by the Orange Co. Jail.

Jail officials stated that she is a model inmate, always trying to improve the conditions of her fellow inmates. Her honestly has also been above reproach as just last week she found a penny in the shower and returned it to its rightful owner. She has also been instrumental in trying to circulate a petition for padded handcuffs and ankle shackles.

Her reward will be $25 put into her commissary account.
























NOT!!!!!!!:tonguewag::tonguewag::tonguewag:

[JHP]

The reports contain the ME's "strong opinion" ... I presume about how Caylee probably died.

I suspect if the Anthonys have seen this report, the ME's opinion is spot on.
I think George and Cindy know exactly what happened to Caylee and that is why they don't want it released. It's horrid and close to the truth.

Which is pretty sick if you think about it.:sad::sad::sad:

[saywhat04]

It is rather odd that the prosecution requested that the photos be sealed. You would think that it would have been the defense or the A's just to preserve her memory.

Imo, the state was putting it to Baez with that motion. They used the motion to point out the fact Team Casey was selling photos of Caylee. Their concern (whether real or "for show") was the same thing would happen with the autopsy photos.

I doubt the A's had even considered any of it at that point in time. As for Baez ... either he hadn't considered it ... or he did indeed have plans for those photos. I honestly doubt that, but I have been in shock and awe over much of what Baez has done, so who knows.

Bottom line, as usual, the state was protecting CAYLEE, the victim's, interests. Certainly no one in her family was or has.

[Dick Tracy]

The bruhaha makes me wonder what the autopsy report says. I previously figured it was mostly along the lines of, "Yup, a dead human skeleton. DNA says it's Caylee." I didn't think there would be enough left of the remains for there to be facts ascertained that could cause "great anguish to the Anthony family." Unlike, for example, the autopsy results of poor little Sandra Cantu. So now I find myself morbidly wondering what information was discovered about Caylee, other than her obviously not-alive remains?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Good Morning Counselor.

I'm wondering as well. Last night I read the press report on Dr. G's initial findings on the DNA ID of Caylee. What else could possibly come from (gasp!) a pile of bones (RIP Caylee) and skeletal remains. She stated in the initial report that there was no evidence of ante-mortem trauma (no broken bones or blunt force trauma).

Question: Can Dr. G use all the evidence gathered at the crime scene to formulate her "strong opinion" of how Caylee died?

[*MoonRider*]

I suspect if the Anthonys have seen this report, the ME's opinion is spot on.
I think George and Cindy know exactly what happened to Caylee and that is why they don't want it released. It's horrid and close to the truth.

Which is pretty sick if you think about it.:sad::sad::sad:

The Anthony's HATE anything to do with the word TRUTH. imo

[saywhat04]

Good Morning Counselor.

I'm wondering as well. Last night I read the press report on Dr. G's initial findings on the DNA ID of Caylee. What else could possibly come from (gasp!) a pile of bones (RIP Caylee) and skeletal remains. She stated in the initial report that there was no evidence of ante-mortem trauma (no broken bones or blunt force trauma).

Question: Can Dr. G use all the evidence gathered at the crime scene to formulate her "strong opinion" of how Caylee died?

She can and did, according to what she said at the December 18th announcement the remains were Caylee's.

[AlohaRainbow]

That is what I recall as well. JB was ordered to set up a seperate web site for those. I wonder if he ever did, or was it like everything else JB was supose to do. Never done.
*snip*
and, iirc, shortly after this secure website was supposed to be set up (within a week or 2 at the most, again iirc), dr baden was on one of the fox shows, and he brought visual aids (a styrofoam head??) to demonstrate how/where the duct tape was found on caylee's skull.

dr baden, who is not part of the defense, who happens to be married to lkb, who is part of the defense... things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm

[AMS]

I *think* the defense gets a copy ahead of release to the media/public, spirit.

Oooh - I think so too. If we are supposed to get this in a doc dump on Friday, the defense must already have the info. The Ant's must know what is in the document....


imo

[JHP]

The Anthony's HATE anything to do with the word TRUTH. imo

It's so sad. Really they all need to be locked up. JMO

[saywhat04]

and, iirc, shortly after this secure website was supposed to be set up (within a week or 2 at the most, again iirc), dr baden was on one of the fox shows, and he brought visual aids (a styrofoam head??) to demonstrate how/where the duct tape was found on caylee's skull.

dr baden, who is not part of the defense, who happens to be married to lkb, who is part of the defense... things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm

Good point about the timing. Was that also around the time he said something about chloroform (or was it Xanax?) in her hair? I believe the toxicology on her hair has ruled certain things out ... but not others. As in, if she'd been given just one recent dose of something like Xanax, it wouldn't show up in her hair. Eh ... my memory's a little fuzzy on this.

[saywhat04]

Oooh - I think so too. If we are supposed to get this in a doc dump on Friday, the defense must already have the info. The Ant's must know what is in the document....


imo

Oh, I'm 99.9% sure they do. And I imagine Dr. G's name has been taken in vain a couple hundred times around that house in the last 24 hours or so.

[Sun]

Good afternoon everyone. I just got back from running errands and see that there is news of a Doc Dump for Friday. Yipee!

I do think that George and Cindy need to be undergoing some professional counseling to help them deal with their grief and anger, and how to begin to move forward with their lives. (I really wanted to say something snarky about their newest Motion, but am trying to live in the positive... which is hard to do about some characters in this case.) Whew!

[Sandy001]

IIRC, there was already a hearing during which autopsy pictures and pictures of Caylee's remains at the dump site were sealed. (They were supposed to be put online at a secure website only the defense and pros could access. I think.) I don't recall any mention was made of the written autopsy report.

Anyone else have a different recollection? I don't think they want anything out there to verify the duct tape. I think it's G&C and/or Baez who is denying there was any duct tape on the body at all. So many denials that I cana't remember who said it.

The reason to seal the autopsy (and it will still appear in the trial so the Anthonys will HAVE to see it at some point) is to avoid distress for the victims. Since George and Cindy have denied everything, I think they should be FORCED to look at what was done to Caylee.

I would think there would have to be an emergency hearing before it could be released into the media. I also think this should have been done MONTHS ago.

[Sandy001]

That sounds right.

Because autopsy photos or videos are no longer public record, under the Dale Earnhart Law. To my knowledge, an actual written report of the autopsy is still public record.
Laci Peterson's autopsy was sealed, but it was still leaked to Dan Abrams and Geraldo. If the Anthonys are so scared of it, they don't have to be in the courtroom when it is discussed (the Rocha family chose not to be there). They just don't want the information out there for peopel like us to see.

[Sandy001]

OH! So now the Anthony's are jumping back into the fire again. And for what? To tell the world that the autopsy will cause them anguish? Get over it. Caylee (may she rest in peace) is dead. They don't have anything to do with the case. They are a third party to the STATE of FLORIDA VS CASEY ANTHONY. They are not involved. They want to be. They want to desperately be in the middle of all this. More TV time. More lights, camera, action. More crab puffs courtesy of ABC. More jaunts across the country to LA, and up to NYC.

I can just see JB on Geraldo this weekend. The state thumbs their nose at the Anthony's and releases the autopsy findings. It's not like this little girl was royalty or anything.

I wish I had a little girl. I'd name her Caylee. Caylee Marie.........

The Anthony's are more than strange. I'd rather watch that Disney Mousetrap movie over and over than watch Cindy Anthony on TV for one minute. No kidding. I knew a girl who did name her daughter that (spelled differently, pronounced the same) and ironically shse had to have her labor induced and the baby was born on August 9th on what would have been Caylee's 3rd birthday

[AlohaRainbow]

Good point about the timing. Was that also around the time he said something about chloroform (or was it Xanax?) in her hair? I believe the toxicology on her hair has ruled certain things out ... but not others. As in, if she'd been given just one recent dose of something like Xanax, it wouldn't show up in her hair. Eh ... my memory's a little fuzzy on this.
dr baden showed up on quite a few shows around that time, iirc, saying such things as "they" (presumably LE) knew who caylee's father was, etc. i don't remember if he specifically talked about toxicology/chloroform around that timeframe...

but, iirc, didn't lkb mention the duct tape during a court procedure (probably the same hearing in which the secure website was dicsussed)? it seems to me it was while duct tape on the skull was still a rumor (from 'sources close to the investigation'?), and by her mentioning it in court, that confirmed the 'rumor'? that's when dr baden went on the air shortly after with his visual aids.

[TunaMelt]

Read the reviews......

I can see why it is closed down.. (or so i heard)

http://www.clubplanet.com/Venues/132116/Orlando/Fusion-Nightclub

Taking the comments with a grain of salt, but only a grain, I see that a common thread is that those who went there were a bunch of "losers."

That's how I see Casey Anthony and her "friends" -- not the "cool people" but the fringe element/losers who hung out in the alleyways because nobody wanted to invite them inside. (metaphorically speaking)

I'm including Tony Lazzaro in this group. I don't think he's a stand up guy at all, and I think we'll see this at the trial.
:thumbdown:

[Sandy001]

Hi Lavinia, I have not been on here in so long. I think just too much with the little girl from Detroit. Anyway, I am back today and agree with you. Yes, Casey has had her last call for alcohol.
there's always pruno.

[Sandy001]

Does anyone think this could be to take the heat off the scrutiny of the video?

[Sandy001]

Thanks. So the motion was filed today? Why didn't they file it earlier? They must have just saw it in the past few days.

jmo The A's are not privy to any discovery unless Case oks it first and I doubt she wants them to know very much.

[TunaMelt]

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseprettyplease.

I've no doubt we'll be seeing the lovely Linda Kenny-Baden on teevee over the weekend, giving us a preview of her counter argument, peppered with accusations of 'soft science' and 'no real evidence' to support the claim made in the report.

:rolleyes:

[TunaMelt]

Does anyone think this could be to take the heat off the scrutiny of the video?

Not for me it won't, LOL, but they're probably hoping it will.

[Sandy001]

Thanks. So the motion was filed today? Why didn't they file it earlier? They must have just saw it in the past few days.

jmo I don't think they have seen it. I think they are AFRAID to see it and to see what condition the body was in and that their daughter may have done this. If they don't see it, or get it sealed, they can continue to deny deny deny as to what the body was like when it was tossed away like trash.

[ttcRider]

BOMBSHELL!!!!!!

CASEY ANTHONY was voted inmate of the month by the Orange Co. Jail.

Jail officials stated that she is a model inmate, always trying to improve the conditions of her fellow inmates. Her honestly has also been above reproach as just last week she found a penny in the shower and returned it to its rightful owner. She has also been instrumental in trying to circulate a petition for padded handcuffs and ankle shackles.

Her reward will be $25 put into her commissary account.
























NOT!!!!!!!:tonguewag::tonguewag::tonguewag:

OMG! You just sent my blood pressure sky high!!

[Sun]

Cindy and George don't want the public to know the truth about what was done to Caylee. Plain and simple. So sad. Seems to me, Cindy and George should have Conway find them a professional counselor, one who helps with grief stricken survivors.

[Pretty Leaf]

Good Morning Counselor.

I'm wondering as well. Last night I read the press report on Dr. G's initial findings on the DNA ID of Caylee. What else could possibly come from (gasp!) a pile of bones (RIP Caylee) and skeletal remains. She stated in the initial report that there was no evidence of ante-mortem trauma (no broken bones or blunt force trauma).

Question: Can Dr. G use all the evidence gathered at the crime scene to formulate her "strong opinion" of how Caylee died?


bolding mine

If you watch Dr G medical examiner show she does use any clue in her autopsies to form a matter of death, which must be proved medically .

She will not make a decision on a manner of death unless it is verified with facts.

Her autopsy on Caylee must have had proof that it is a homicide. Her show sometmes listed manner of death unkown so she must have some verifilable facts to say homicide.

[Sandy001]

On Larry King, Conway denied that the sticker was placed over the duct tape. How would he know that with any level of certainty? My guess is that he (and the Anthony's) have already perused the autopsy report.
My guess is that he DIDN'T know and was just denying everything. Letting the report become public will only show him a liar and he doesn't need that.

[Sandy001]

Do you think there's a chance the media attorney will be present at this hearing (should it happen) to give the public's side of the story? pleasepleaseplease

They have the right to be there and hopefully they will. And that they state their reasons are to get the ACTUAL information out there instead of the media spin by "others"

[Sandy001]

bolding mine

If you watch Dr G medical examiner show she does use any clue in her autopsies to form a matter of death, which must be proved medically .

She will not make a decision on a manner of death unless it is verified with facts.

Her autopsy on Caylee must have had proof that it is a homicide. Her show sometmes listed manner of death unkown so she must have some verifilable facts to say homicide.TjThere are only four to choose from

Homicide,
Suicide,
Natural
Accidental.
and of course UNKNOWN. Given Caylee's age and the fact she was not ill, there was only Homicide or Acidental. There was no evidence of any accident, so homicide is all that is left to her. The manner of her burial rules out accident. You don't put duct tape over the mouth of an accident victim and no accident was ever reported.

[saywhat04]

Does anyone think this could be to take the heat off the scrutiny of the video?

The only ones scrutinizing that stupid video are Jose and LKB.

Most of us are interested in the victim, CAYLEE. Certainly not in her mother's reaction or in Baez's suspected shenanigans.

[101Spots]

They have the right to be there and hopefully they will. And that they state their reasons are to get the ACTUAL information out there instead of the media spin by "others"

Rah, rah, media lawyers! Hip Hip Hooray!

[101Spots]

OK, it's happened *again.*

I get an ad for personalized m&ms that shows 4 candies:
1. "Casey's our girl!"
2. Photo of someone who looks suspiciously like PRP.
3. "Happy Birthday"
4. [logo] m

Am I the only one who is being chased around the interweb by this particular ad?

Need my clove of garlic........

[saywhat04]

OK, it's happened *again.*

I get an ad for personalized m&ms that shows 4 candies:
1. "Casey's our girl!"
2. Photo of someone who looks suspiciously like PRP.
3. "Happy Birthday"
4. [logo] m

Am I the only one who is being chased around the interweb by this particular ad?

Need my clove of garlic........

Apparently ... :sneaky:

Perhaps you should skip the garlic and go right for the exorcist. :laugh:

[101Spots]

Apparently ... :sneaky:

Perhaps you should skip the garlic and go right for the exorcist. :laugh:

Anybody have a cel number for Marie Laveau?

[Sun]

In a motion filed by their attorney, George and Cindy Anthony argue that "the information contained within in the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

Perhaps George and Cindy should NOT read the report. Perhaps they should NOT watch/listen to the news. They have a choice.

Perhaps George and Cindy should pack up their belonging and move to some deserted island. Or, go into a recovery/rehab live-in program. They need to learn to deal with it.

[TunaMelt]

OK, it's happened *again.*

I get an ad for personalized m&ms that shows 4 candies:
1. "Casey's our girl!"
2. Photo of someone who looks suspiciously like PRP.
3. "Happy Birthday"
4. [logo] m

Am I the only one who is being chased around the interweb by this particular ad?

Need my clove of garlic........

I think that's a part of google's selective advertising. Seriously. Do you have a google toolbar?

It works by following your activities on the internet, what sites you visit and how often, and then it personalizes the ad(s) to suit your interests.

You can opt out of this advertising at google; I don't have a link to the opt-out information, though, sorry.

[saywhat04]

In a motion filed by their attorney, George and Cindy Anthony argue that "the information contained within in the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

Perhaps George and Cindy should NOT read the report. Perhaps they should NOT watch/listen to the news. They have a choice.

Perhaps George and Cindy should pack up their belonging and move to some deserted island. Or, go into a recovery/rehab live-in program. They need to learn to deal with it.

I think it's a safe bet Cindy has yet to get in touch with her inner control freak. :rolleyes: This is just another example of her attempt to control things.

Sure wish her hot line to God worked both ways. She could really use a lesson in humility and surrender right about now.

[Scampi]

More Anthony Discovery To Be Released
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html

According to the motion, "As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Conway's motion said the release of the results would cause the family "great anguish."

The Anthonys acknowledge that the results will eventually be released during the trial, but object to them being released during discovery. They believe that releasing the results to the media will cause endless comments and speculation on TV and the Internet.

The prosecutor's office said it plans to proceed with the release unless a judge intervenes.

Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said the results contain her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee.

I think the anthonys fear Dr. G's report on exactly how the tape was found on the skull and in what position the tape was in relation to the "mouth." Dr. G will also speak to the residue left behind by the heart shape sticker. Conway will be exposed as a liar when he stated the heart sticker was not "found" on the tape. I think Dr. G. will confirm that the heart sticker was on the tape, around the mouth area of the skull, but thru time and water damage, it fell off.

I hope Strickland allows the release.