Thurs., June 11, 2009

[BobbysGirl]

She should be terrified. Beyond terrified. She picked the wrong state to murder her child. They like the DP down in Florida. One way or another, she's going to die in prison. Her little game of stealing from friends, her mom and dad, other relatives, Caylee's piggybank, sleeping with umpteen guys, and being a party girl is over. For Casey Anthony, this is crunch time, and she realizes it's all caught up to her. And it's going to kill her.

TY for your reply and I agree. It will kill her. IMO it all ready is and creeping up on her.

[summer4meplz]

:blushing:

I like ya too Spots......I only capitalize names of ppl I like....:biggrin:

[bchand]

I think there is an exception for autopsy photos, not for the autopsy itself. (The Dale Earnhardt autopsy photo issue?)

I'm reading an opinion on W.S. and it seems the police or prosecutors may be able to hold them for investigative purposes but not the defense.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3860226
(They have a link from MyFloridalegal but it's not working for me.)

Autopsy reports made pursuant to law are public records which must be made available for public inspection and examination unless exempted by special act. If not exempted from disclosure by special act, an autopsy report may be kept confidential only to the extent necessary to ensure that a criminal investigation would not be significantly impeded and enable violators of the criminal laws to escape detection and apprehension. Documents or records made confidential by statute do not lose such status upon receipt by the medical examiner.

Looking good.

[101Spots]

Oooh. I think "Lavinia" is quite a nice name for a spell. :smile:

It was a toss up between that or "Cindy." Decisions, decisions......

[Sun]

One of the TH on Ng saying there is a statute in FL that prevents autopsy reports from public disclosure until the trial.

imo

I caught that too. Wonder why no one else has mentioned it?

[summer]

summer4meplz -

I feel kinda badly I chose a screen name so close to yours. I didn't realize!

My first choice was Spring but it was taken.

Sowwy. :sad:

[saywhat04]

Yanno, the NE got some really good dirt on some trials and stuff for a bit, like OJ's. It seems they have some stories that they are pretty good on and then the rest really SUCK.

LKL: Weird.

:laugh:

As rags go, supposedly the NE is one of the better ones with regard to the accuracy of their stories.

But the OC nonsense they've printed has me :sneaky:

Remember the pic of her "accomplice" with duct tape in his hand and a hooded sweatshirt completely obscuring his appearance? :lol:

[BobbysGirl]

EXACTLY!

Maybe AL is turning her around to the seriousness of her situation.

Let's see what she looks like in her next court appearance.

Maybe she'll show up with her hair in corn-rows -- dancing into the courtroom to the defense table with her radio blasting.

Insanity plea here we come.

Insanity plea? I will wait and see. A little too late imo. I really believe Lyon is telling Casey is like it is. Baez, on the otherhand, sugar coating her. His days are over. MOO

NG

[seeing_eye]

Maybe he wasn't paying his share of the rent or helping with the chores.. :laugh:

The easiest way to have a falling out among friends is to move in together.

[summer4meplz]

I agree summer and I LOVE the way she showed the clips and made absolutely no comments.

The clips speak for themselves.

and it's also not in the transcripts.......you HAVE to WATCH nancys show to get everything.....remember when they ran the list of computer searches and nancy mentions missing children sites...but there was only 1 missing children site and about 10 or 15 escort sites.....nancy can be subtle...:biggrin:

[saywhat04]

and casey and jose stroll hand in hand along the miami beach

... hopefully they're in street clothes and not swimsuits. :scared:

[EverMoth]

She should be terrified. Beyond terrified. She picked the wrong state to murder her child. They like the DP down in Florida. One way or another, she's going to die in prison. Her little game of stealing from friends, her mom and dad, other relatives, Caylee's piggybank, sleeping with umpteen guys, and being a party girl is over. For Casey Anthony, this is crunch time, and she realizes it's all caught up to her. And it's going to kill her.

Evening all :smile:

I do believe the gravity of her situtation is beginning to sink in. I also think Ms. Lyon has something to do with it. At this point, the defense doesn't even have a case. The best they can do is become annoying media hounds and trash the state at every opportunity. That's it. They have no strategy, no game plan. Unless, AL, in her passion to save the odious creature from the needle, she can convince her to confess. I have had a hunch this would be where AL would go. Nightmares and screaming? Oh, no doubt. Casey is either going to end up on death row, being assaulted in the prison showers for the rest of her life or possibly to a prison for the mentally insane. Yep that'll do it. Dream on Casey! You will pay your dues. JMO

I'm not sure what is in the autopsy report but it must be very significant for the Ants to freak out about it and try to get it suppressed until the trial. They don't want the public to see it. I wonder what it contains. Anyone want to speculate?

[101Spots]

I caught that too. Wonder why no one else has mentioned it?

Because it has to be a bowl of moo-poo. With sprinkles.

Why would LE release it (before the protest) if they aren't allowed to? Can you believe that LE doesn't know the law?

Not. Absolutely not. 99 44/100% pure not.

I think.

[summer4meplz]

summer4meplz -

I feel kinda badly I chose a screen name so close to yours. I didn't realize!

My first choice was Spring but it was taken.

Sowwy. :sad:

au contraire.......I feel like I found a sissy.....:thumbsup:

[summer]

I don't think the perp feels anything ... at least not for anyone else. I think part of the stone-cold appearance is a practiced tough-chick look she's been sporting since she was bailed out, round 1.

It's quite mature, don't you think? Much like the Grinch grimaces her mother makes, and those odd eyebrow movements of G and Middle Finger.

I often wonder what that's all about. How can this attitude be to her advantage? You'd think she'd want to look sympathetic, broken up, pitiful.

And in her jail convos with the parents: "I haven't cried", etc.

Is that something to be proud of?

Your baby is dead but you haven't cried???

I don't know what the standards were in that household but it's just so freakin' strange. Downright WEIRD. :w00t:

[101Spots]

The easiest way to have a falling out among friends is to move in together.

Now you're toying with me. Nothing would make my day like George kicking Dennis down the block.

OK, I can think of a few things, but this is towards the top of the list.

[saywhat04]

I'm reading an opinion on W.S. and it seems the police or prosecutors may be able to hold them for investigative purposes but not the defense.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3860226
(They have a link from MyFloridalegal but it's not working for me.)

Autopsy reports made pursuant to law are public records which must be made available for public inspection and examination unless exempted by special act. If not exempted from disclosure by special act, an autopsy report may be kept confidential only to the extent necessary to ensure that a criminal investigation would not be significantly impeded and enable violators of the criminal laws to escape detection and apprehension. Documents or records made confidential by statute do not lose such status upon receipt by the medical examiner.

Looking good.

Gee ... not a word about "anguish."

Release the dang report, Judge Strickland. :glare:

[summer]

au contraire.......I feel like I found a sissy.....:thumbsup:

Aww! Sistah! :wub:

[summer]

Goodnight all. :seeya:

[saywhat04]

Evening all :smile:

I do believe the gravity of her situtation is beginning to sink in. I also think Ms. Lyon has something to do with it. At this point, the defense doesn't even have a case. The best they can do is become annoying media hounds and trash the state at every opportunity. That's it. They have no strategy, no game plan. Unless, AL, in her passion to save the odious creature from the needle, she can convince her to confess. I have had a hunch this would be where AL would go. Nightmares and screaming? Oh, no doubt. Casey is either going to end up on death row, being assaulted in the prison showers for the rest of her life or possibly to a prison for the mentally insane. Yep that'll do it. Dream on Casey! You will pay your dues. JMO

I'm not sure what is in the autopsy report but it must be very significant for the Ants to freak out about it and try to get it suppressed until the trial. They don't want the public to see it. I wonder what it contains. Anyone want to speculate?

Howdy!

The ME, Dr. Garavaglia, said her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee is included in the report.

[BobbysGirl]

Because it has to be a bowl of moo-poo. With sprinkles.

Why would LE release it (before the protest) if they aren't allowed to? Can you believe that LE doesn't know the law?

Not. Absolutely not. 99 44/100% pure not.

I think.

I think, no more sugar on top.

ooooooooops

BG

[saywhat04]

I often wonder what that's all about. How can this attitude be to her advantage? You'd think she'd want to look sympathetic, broken up, pitiful.

And in her jail convos with the parents: "I haven't cried", etc.

Is that something to be proud of?

Your baby is dead but you haven't cried???

I don't know what the standards were in that household but it's just so freakin' strange. Downright WEIRD. :w00t:

I'm telling ya, the House of Anthony is full of Peter Pans. No one ever grows up.

If you think about all their behavior and the things they say, and then think of a group of defiant adolescents, it helps with context.

[really3997]

Goodnight all. :seeya:

Good night I am outty also:patriot:

[seeing_eye]

Evening all :smile:

I do believe the gravity of her situtation is beginning to sink in. I also think Ms. Lyon has something to do with it. At this point, the defense doesn't even have a case. The best they can do is become annoying media hounds and trash the state at every opportunity. That's it. They have no strategy, no game plan. Unless, AL, in her passion to save the odious creature from the needle, she can convince her to confess. I have had a hunch this would be where AL would go. Nightmares and screaming? Oh, no doubt. Casey is either going to end up on death row, being assaulted in the prison showers for the rest of her life or possibly to a prison for the mentally insane. Yep that'll do it. Dream on Casey! You will pay your dues. JMO

I'm not sure what is in the autopsy report but it must be very significant for the Ants to freak out about it and try to get it suppressed until the trial. They don't want the public to see it. I wonder what it contains. Anyone want to speculate?

I think it's something that indicates a very cruel and inhumane death.

[EverMoth]

Howdy!

The ME, Dr. Garavaglia, said her "strong opinion" about what happened to Caylee is included in the report.

Hiya saywhat. Well gee, this is certainly interesting. I have been wondering if there were things in that report that were more than what we heard when Dr. G gave her pc on COD. So, she has a "strong opinion". . . what could be revealed about COD from examining bones?

[Sun]

Insanity plea? I will wait and see. A little too late imo. I really believe Lyon is telling Casey is like it is. Baez, on the otherhand, sugar coating her. His days are over. MOO

NG

I wish that one of the media would publish Casey's Inmate Visitor's Log, from about Jan 26th through the present. I am curious to see if Casey has met with Lyon, when, how many times, how many hours.

Was Casey insane when the crime was committed? No. Has Casey shown any insane behavior in the courtroom lately. No. I'm pretty sure that the media hasn't missed this event. LOL

[EverMoth]

I think it's something that indicates a very cruel and inhumane death.

I think so too. I'm curious what led to her "strong opinion". Did we ever get a tox report? Do we know for a fact that Caylee's hair did not show lethal amounts of chloroform? Would a tox report be something she also used to come to her "strong opinion" - along with the examination of the bones and the LE report of what they found at the dump site. hmmm. . .I'm dying to know!:confused:

[seeing_eye]

Now you're toying with me. Nothing would make my day like George kicking Dennis down the block.

OK, I can think of a few things, but this is towards the top of the list.

Give it time. If they live there long enough it will happen. :smile:

[Sun]

Hiya saywhat. Well gee, this is certainly interesting. I have been wondering if there were things in that report that were more than what we heard when Dr. G gave her pc on COD. So, she has a "strong opinion". . . what could be revealed about COD from examining bones?

Perhaps the report contains details in regards to the duct tape on the mouth, and if prints/DNA were found on it or the bags. Perhaps the report contain details about the items located still inside the garbage bags. Perhaps the report contains toxicology results.

[BobbysGirl]

I wish that one of the media would publish Casey's Inmate Visitor's Log, from about Jan 26th through the present. I am curious to see if Casey has met with Lyon, when, how many times, how many hours.

Was Casey insane when the crime was committed? No. Has Casey shown any insane behavior in the courtroom lately. No. I'm pretty sure that the media hasn't missed this event. LOL

Sun, me too. Thinking about it her visitor log.

In answer to both your questions. No and No. IMO It will be her downfall.

RIP Casey, your day in court will come. 31 days. What do you have to say about that? Casey.

BG

[seeing_eye]

Hiya saywhat. Well gee, this is certainly interesting. I have been wondering if there were things in that report that were more than what we heard when Dr. G gave her pc on COD. So, she has a "strong opinion". . . what could be revealed about COD from examining bones?

I think ME's don't just base their opinion on findings on the body itself, but they also factor in other evidence in police reports, etc.

[BobbysGirl]

Night all. Busy weekend ahead.
Thank to all for links and conversation.
BG

[EverMoth]

Perhaps the report contains details in regards to the duct tape on the mouth, and if prints/DNA were found on it or the bags. Perhaps the report contain details about the items located still inside the garbage bags. Perhaps the report contains toxicology results.

Thx, Sun. I'm beginning to feel hopeful that there is a lot the public has not heard and there might well be details that are very damaging. It's weird because this crime was just as sloppy, imo, as Christopher Coleman's hideous murder of his entire family. All evidence leads back to Casey just as it does CC. I don't get it. You can just tell from listening to all the reports on that case that it is presumed the guy is totally guilty. But with Casey. . . . :shrug:

Is it because she is young, a woman and good looking? Because she has big ta-tas? WHAT? Why isn't it freakin' obvious to everyone that the OC murdered her child? CC gets hauled to jail and that's that. Casey gets pampered in jail, gets a trillion dollar defense, a quarter of a million dollars from ABC for photos - I could go on and on. It really makes me nauseous. This woman totally killed her two year old baby and she has been treated like a princess! :cursing:

[legalmania]

I couldn't find any statute I think it's in the freedom of information act, but I did find the F.S. on the D.P.
http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/capital-punishment/florida/

[101Spots]

I couldn't find any statute I think it's in the freedom of information act, but I did find the F.S. on the D.P.
http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/capital-punishment/florida/

Vewy intewesting. Aggravated child abuse = DP. Works for me.

[saywhat04]

Hiya saywhat. Well gee, this is certainly interesting. I have been wondering if there were things in that report that were more than what we heard when Dr. G gave her pc on COD. So, she has a "strong opinion". . . what could be revealed about COD from examining bones?

Bones ... duct tape ... heart sticker ... other things found with the baby's remains. imo

[EverMoth]

Bones ... duct tape ... heart sticker ... other things found with the baby's remains. imo

Tox report? Prints on the tape?

[Unleashed]

:crying:...............



Somebody is going to pay. Sooner or later......

OUT!! Dam.....................oops, sorry. :blushing:

[EverMoth]

OUT!! Dam.....................oops, sorry. :blushing:

LOL :biggrinjester:

[legalmania]

Here is the statutes on documents I just don't have the energy to look for the media I think it's not here but enjoy:

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0092/titl0092.htm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=-%3E2008-%3EChapter%2092

[sunstar]

I don't have NG on. Bombshell? Heck, her sitting in jail and not partying will cause her nightmares.
She lost her American Flag and blue dress. She is not insane.

She should be scared. It is a matter of time that she will lose it. IMO I think Casey will no longer be able to fool anyone, as if she thinks she can.

I really hope she cracks. With all the delays, delays, delays going on and Baez playing her. Well, there is so much one can take. IMO Fess up and tell the truth.

BG

I agree. I don't feel one bit sorry for her if this report is true, but considering the original source, I wonder if it is. :shrug: MOO

[saywhat04]

Tox report? Prints on the tape?

Dunno. :confused: "Strong opinion" is an opinion. If there were tox results and/or prints, those would be in a different category than "opinion." I just don't think we'll see anything conclusive like that kind of evidence until trial, but that's strictly my own feeling.

[legalmania]

Vewy intewesting. Aggravated child abuse = DP. Works for me.

There is a lot here what about under 12?

[sunstar]

Perhaps the report contains details in regards to the duct tape on the mouth, and if prints/DNA were found on it or the bags. Perhaps the report contain details about the items located still inside the garbage bags. Perhaps the report contains toxicology results.

I hope it does so we get some real new information. MOO

[101Spots]

There is a lot here what about under 12?

Throw that in for good luck. All it takes is one and she goes down.

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19728765/detail.html

Here is the Order to Temporarily Stay the release of the autopsy reports and finding, signed by Judge Strickland

[EverMoth]

Dunno. :confused: "Strong opinion" is an opinion. If there were tox results and/or prints, those would be in a different category than "opinion." I just don't think we'll see anything conclusive like that kind of evidence until trial, but that's strictly my own feeling.

Yeah, I was afraid you were going to say that. Knocked me off my Nancy Grace high on hearing the autopsy report was a potential bombshell - even though I knew that was pure conjecture on their part. Is all evidence public record or could tox reports, the possibility of Casey's prints being on the duct tape etc., be legally suppressed until trial? Just wondering why we haven't heard certain things. I keep waiting. . .

[legalmania]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19728765/detail.html

Here is the Order to Temporarily Stay the release of the autopsy reports and finding, signed by Judge Strickland

They will eventually win but the judge has to prevent the Anthonys from damages. He hasn't even made a ruling on what evidence he will allow in.

[EverMoth]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19728765/detail.html

Here is the Order to Temporarily Stay the release of the autopsy reports and finding, signed by Judge Strickland

Every time I click on that link it goes to the news site but I keep getting an error message that something is trying to download and my computer blocks it. Weird.

[Sandy001]

I think this is all an act thought up by Baez and KC to gain sympathy from the jail...If this did happen...she was not sleeping...Baez then can call the jail guards at trial to testify that this happened...all a farce!!!

Kc is a sociopath and could care less...Caylee has long been forgotten.
Casey will LOVE the drunk tank - padded walls, no bed, drain in the center, no radio, no books, no nothing. Jails don't have the facilities to deal with disruptive inmates. So if you are depressed, you are tossed in the drunk tank, if you make a fuss and scream or cry all the time, you go to the drunk tank. If you are going through withdrawals, you go to the drunk tank. If you are combative, you go to the drunk tank. It just doesn't pay to be emotional in jail.

[saywhat04]

Yeah, I was afraid you were going to say that. Knocked me off my Nancy Grace high on hearing the autopsy report was a potential bombshell - even though I knew that was pure conjecture on their part. Is all evidence public record or could tox reports, the possibility of Casey's prints being on the duct tape etc., be legally suppressed until trial? Just wondering why we haven't heard certain things. I keep waiting. . .

That seems to be the $64,000 question. Why haven't we seen all the doc dumps? Why have we primarily seen non-essential evidence vs. things like definitive yes-or-no on the OC's prints on the duct tape ... maggot evidence ... I could go on and on. Point is, we don't have a lot of good info, and no one seems to be able to tell us why.

I get so frushtrated at times I can't swallow. :cursing:

[legalmania]

Here is my florida legal site: my cat won't move so I can't move the mouse.

http://myfloridalegal.com/

[MiamiNice1]

I'm saying I think the motion was filed to benefit the defense case. I think the two of them, Conway and Baez, are operating in tandem, in cahoots if you will -- because I don't believe for a minute that the Anthonys will be anguished over the release of the report.

I think however that it's possible if not likely that Baez' case will benefit by the delay. Casey will benefit, that is.

And since Everyone's Goal is to Save KC Anthony's butt, Conway helps our "young Hispanic attorney" out whenever possible.

Like this motion which causes another delay. I don't know why Baez wants a delay, I have my ideas, but he wants most things kept out of public release, and Conway's motion on behalf of the Anthony Duo accomplished this for Baez.

Probably Baez didn't want to be the one to file another motion asking for more evidence to be sealed because he's already got that tape in question, and that's causing lots of speculation. He doesn't need more speculation.

So Conway deflects the attention to himself and those Anthony people.

:confused:
I sooooo agree with your theory, Tuna! (bolding mine)

Can it be this easy to figure out these people? Ugh! Hope Judge Strickland is finding it as simple.

:laugh: ----> "those Anthony people"

(btw, you, 101Spots and SayWhat are killing me with your terrific humor today!! :loveeyes:)

[legalmania]

Every time I click on that link it goes to the news site but I keep getting an error message that something is trying to download and my computer blocks it. Weird.

Does this work:

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19728765/detail.html

[Sandy001]

Yeah, I was afraid you were going to say that. Knocked me off my Nancy Grace high on hearing the autopsy report was a potential bombshell - even though I knew that was pure conjecture on their part. Is all evidence public record or could tox reports, the possibility of Casey's prints being on the duct tape etc., be legally suppressed until trial? Just wondering why we haven't heard certain things. I keep waiting. . .


I doubt seriously there are any bombshells. We know the conclusion already, it might discuss in detail the amount of flesh that is remaining on the body (if it were not totally skeletonized.

I have the autopsy report (summary) on Conner Peterson. No details tho. They came out in the trial. Autopsy summary said full term fetus fully developed. However, in the testimony it was stated that because the skull plates were not fused and were slipping, the face appeared collapsed on one side. It was very different from the "perfectly" formed child that the defense tried to make us believe. It's no wonder they didn't want the autopsy pictures shown.

[MiamiNice1]

On NG, they played the George, "how DARE you" clip!

Don't you love how he pauses for dramatic effect? :rolleyes:

[saywhat04]

On NG, they played the George, "how DARE you" clip!

Don't you love how he pauses for dramatic effect? :rolleyes:

Hiya, MN1. :wub:

George put on quite the show. Not.

It was so funny when he suddenly snapped to after Brad gave him a little talking to. :laugh:

[EverMoth]

That seems to be the $64,000 question. Why haven't we seen all the doc dumps? Why have we primarily seen non-essential evidence vs. things like definitive yes-or-no on the OC's prints on the duct tape ... maggot evidence ... I could go on and on. Point is, we don't have a lot of good info, and no one seems to be able to tell us why.

I get so frushtrated at times I can't swallow. :cursing:

Totally frustating! I have a feeling that there is evidence so damning that the judge ruled to not release it in order for Casey to be assured of a fair trial. The more damaging evidence that is released the more big of a bombshell which means media frenzy nation wide. Even people who are not currently paying much attention to the trial might pick up an ear.

Can you imagine the headlines of the Florida paper if Casey's prints are on the duct tape or the tox report indicates a lethal amount of chloroform. The maggot report would be an interesting tidbit for the public - just gross enough to capture everyone's attention while also totally disputing the rediculous pizza theory.

I tell ya, when AL gave her pc the rest of the defense stooges were exhibiting absolute panic. No confidence whatsoever. None. I think it is because they know Casey did it, the evidence is so damning that there is virutally no chance of winning the case. The DP probably looks inevitable at this point. Enter AL. And we have no idea what is happening behind the scenes with her and the OC. Unlike her fool counterparts, she is on a mission. So now we have Casey screaming with nightmares, basically exhibiting signs of a breakdown. Is this occurring after many hours of "reality therapy" with AL?

[EverMoth]

That is your virus software warning you whether you want to download that pdf or not. Click on the yellow bar and it will give you options to download or not.

Thx. I just figured it out. I didn't stop to think that .pdf's actually downloaded. :blushing: Until I stopped and thought about it of course.

[Chardonnay]

Totally frustating! I have a feeling that there is evidence so damning that the judge ruled to not release it in order for Casey to be assured of a fair trial. The more damaging evidence that is released the more big of a bombshell which means media frenzy nation wide. Even people who are not currently paying much attention to the trial might pick up an ear.

Can you imagine the headlines of the Florida paper if Casey's prints are on the duct tape or the tox report indicates a lethal amount of chloroform. The maggot report would be an interesting tidbit for the public - just gross enough to capture everyone's attention while also totally disputing the rediculous pizza theory.

I tell ya, when AL gave her pc the rest of the defense stooges were exhibiting absolute panic. No confidence whatsoever. None. I think it is because they know Casey did it, the evidence is so damning that there is virutally no chance of winning the case. The DP probably looks inevitable at this point. Enter AL. And we have no idea what is happening behind the scenes with her and the OC. Unlike her fool counterparts, she is on a mission. So now we have Casey screaming with nightmares, basically exhibiting signs of a breakdown. Is this occurring after many hours of "reality therapy" with AL?

Great post !!:thumbsup:

[EverMoth]

I doubt seriously there are any bombshells. We know the conclusion already, it might discuss in detail the amount of flesh that is remaining on the body (if it were not totally skeletonized.

I have the autopsy report (summary) on Conner Peterson. No details tho. They came out in the trial. Autopsy summary said full term fetus fully developed. However, in the testimony it was stated that because the skull plates were not fused and were slipping, the face appeared collapsed on one side. It was very different from the "perfectly" formed child that the defense tried to make us believe. It's no wonder they didn't want the autopsy pictures shown.


Thx Sandy. You are probably right but I hope not. That's really sad a sad report. Now I'm wondering what was wrong with little Connor's face.

[legalmania]

Here is the F.S. some info on Florida media and documents: Is anybody getting this?

http://myfloridalegal.com/catalog.nsf?SearchDomain&Query=media%20AND%20documents&Start=1&Count=30

[legalmania]

Totally frustating! I have a feeling that there is evidence so damning that the judge ruled to not release it in order for Casey to be assured of a fair trial. The more damaging evidence that is released the more big of a bombshell which means media frenzy nation wide. Even people who are not currently paying much attention to the trial might pick up an ear.

Can you imagine the headlines of the Florida paper if Casey's prints are on the duct tape or the tox report indicates a lethal amount of chloroform. The maggot report would be an interesting tidbit for the public - just gross enough to capture everyone's attention while also totally disputing the rediculous pizza theory.

I tell ya, when AL gave her pc the rest of the defense stooges were exhibiting absolute panic. No confidence whatsoever. None. I think it is because they know Casey did it, the evidence is so damning that there is virutally no chance of winning the case. The DP probably looks inevitable at this point. Enter AL. And we have no idea what is happening behind the scenes with her and the OC. Unlike her fool counterparts, she is on a mission. So now we have Casey screaming with nightmares, basically exhibiting signs of a breakdown. Is this occurring after many hours of "reality therapy" with AL?

Slow down now the judge hasn't even begun to look at evidence, they are still in discovery it's a process.

[bchand]

Here is the F.S. some info on Florida media and documents: Is anybody getting this?

http://myfloridalegal.com/catalog.nsf?SearchDomain&Query=media%20AND%20documents&Start=1&Count=30

Yep - I posted this awhile back.

http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/894D58D0F8A7D7A88525659400683EA1

[EverMoth]

Slow down now the judge hasn't even begun to look at evidence, they are still in discovery it's a process.

Thx for the dose of reality.

[MiamiNice1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw
Trying to catch up.....this was da bomb, B!!! :thumbsup: :lol:

Your earlier post about the As blaming everyone but their daughter for their anguish was so spot on!

[101Spots]

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Prepared by:

Anne Curtis Terry
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Florida Toll Free: 1-866-966-7226
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OK, this is the part I understand (above).

It's too late and my eyeballs are too old. Got the Cliff Notes version?

[legalmania]

Yep - I posted this awhile back.

http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/894D58D0F8A7D7A88525659400683EA1

Oh didn't notice probably had my nose in some statute. I'm gonna delete some info if it's not to late. To much info

[legalmania]

OK, this is the part I understand (above).

It's too late and my eyeballs are too old. Got the Cliff Notes version?

Well I just deleted it. I thought it was to much. The site is still there under one of my posts. Good Luck finding it.

[legalmania]

Yep - I posted this awhile back.

http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/894D58D0F8A7D7A88525659400683EA1

Do you know if this is posted in the links because in a couple of hours it will all be gone?

[legalmania]

Trying to catch up.....this was da bomb, B!!! :thumbsup: :lol:

Your earlier post about the As blaming everyone but their daughter for their anguish was so spot on!

Wonder where I was I don't remember that.

[legalmania]

OK, this is the part I understand (above).

It's too late and my eyeballs are too old. Got the Cliff Notes version?

There's cliff notes, it's like finding out the answers to the test are in the back of the book.

[bchand]

Do you know if this is posted in the links because in a couple of hours it will all be gone?

No it isn't, I'll do it now.

I just wish Nancy would ask for a link when one of her guests makes a statement that "there is a statue in FL that prohibits publishing an autopsy report before the trial."

[seeing_eye]

Totally frustating! I have a feeling that there is evidence so damning that the judge ruled to not release it in order for Casey to be assured of a fair trial. The more damaging evidence that is released the more big of a bombshell which means media frenzy nation wide. Even people who are not currently paying much attention to the trial might pick up an ear.

Can you imagine the headlines of the Florida paper if Casey's prints are on the duct tape or the tox report indicates a lethal amount of chloroform. The maggot report would be an interesting tidbit for the public - just gross enough to capture everyone's attention while also totally disputing the rediculous pizza theory.

I tell ya, when AL gave her pc the rest of the defense stooges were exhibiting absolute panic. No confidence whatsoever. None. I think it is because they know Casey did it, the evidence is so damning that there is virutally no chance of winning the case. The DP probably looks inevitable at this point. Enter AL. And we have no idea what is happening behind the scenes with her and the OC. Unlike her fool counterparts, she is on a mission. So now we have Casey screaming with nightmares, basically exhibiting signs of a breakdown. Is this occurring after many hours of "reality therapy" with AL?

I'm not an attorney, so my understanding may be skewed. But my understanding of the FL Sunshine laws is that all evidence released by the SA's to the defense can be released to the media at the media's request. Some evidence can be sealed by the court however, such as the autopsy photos and the reason for that is self-evident. It seems that an attorney can request the court seal from the public eye any evidence, for example, the jail video requested by Baez. And now Conway has requested the autopsy report to be sealed. The judge has yet to rule on these motions. IMO, a lot of the information, documents, reports, etc. have not been released to the public yet because LE is has not completed their investigation concerning them. I don't think they're obligated to turn them over to the defense until they've completed their investigation of them. I'm not aware that they have any kind of deadline on when they must finish their investigation of a specific piece of evidence. Anyway, this is my understanding of this and I may very well bed wrong. (I have been before.)

[bchand]

Trying to catch up.....this was da bomb, B!!! :thumbsup: :lol:

Your earlier post about the As blaming everyone but their daughter for their anguish was so spot on!

lol glad you liked Gene Gene.

Re the Anthonys, we've never seen them place any blame on her whatsoever. Great mother, loving mother, mother of the year, etc. etc.

[legalmania]

No it isn't, I'll do it now.

I just wish Nancy would ask for a link when one of her guests makes a statement that "there is a statue in FL that prohibits publishing an autopsy report before the trial."

Ya I know I just spent an hour trying to find out what she said. I don't mind when I"m getting paid. Where? what we posted?

[MiamiNice1]

It's ridiculous, imo. The Anthonys don't have to read a word of any evidence they choose not to.

This is another ploy, imo. The A's want desperately to continue the ruse Caylee suffered some not-to-be-discussed "terminal event" brought about by some not-yet-identified perpetrator. Bee. Ess.

I'm telling ya, the House of Anthony is full of Peter Pans. No one ever grows up.

If you think about all their behavior and the things they say, and then think of a group of defiant adolescents, it helps with context.

Your analyses are a pure pleasure to read. :wub:

[legalmania]

I'm not an attorney, so my understanding may be skewed. But my understanding of the FL Sunshine laws is that all evidence released by the SA's to the defense can be released to the media at the media's request. Some evidence can be sealed by the court however, such as the autopsy photos and the reason for that is self-evident. It seems that an attorney can request the court seal from the public eye any evidence, for example, the jail video requested by Baez. And now Conway has requested the autopsy report to be sealed. The judge has yet to rule on these motions. IMO, a lot of the information, documents, reports, etc. have not been released to the public yet because LE is has not completed their investigation concerning them. I don't think they're obligated to turn them over to the defense until they've completed their investigation of them. I'm not aware that they have any kind of deadline on when they must finish their investigation of a specific piece of evidence. Anyway, this is my understanding of this and I may very well bed wrong. (I have been before.)

And I don't blame them everything the prosecution puts out is going to be investigated and if it's not true, Headline news, they don't want to look like fools. Maybe Baez doesn't mind but the state does.

[legalmania]

Hay Caylee well it's time to say goodnight, you know you are so loved and missed. I hope that you know we will fight for you baby girl. You play and dance and we will make sure justice is yours.This is dedicated to Caylee and all the missing and murdered children.



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[MiamiNice1]

Wonder where I was I don't remember that.

It's just amazing to me how the media, LE, the SA, and the public all cause the Anthony's "great anguish."

They have NEVER put any blame on the person who deserves it - their daughter.

I went back and found the post, legal. (if you're still here)

Night. :)

[Pruddennce]

I'm reading an opinion on W.S. and it seems the police or prosecutors may be able to hold them for investigative purposes but not the defense.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3860226
(They have a link from MyFloridalegal but it's not working for me.)

Autopsy reports made pursuant to law are public records which must be made available for public inspection and examination unless exempted by special act. If not exempted from disclosure by special act, an autopsy report may be kept confidential only to the extent necessary to ensure that a criminal investigation would not be significantly impeded and enable violators of the criminal laws to escape detection and apprehension. Documents or records made confidential by statute do not lose such status upon receipt by the medical examiner.

Looking good.

BC should have claimed they were still looking for the REAL KILLER with REAL INVESTIGATORS.......

instead he cites bloggers with loose lips who discuss the case on the web......last time I looked, a computer can be shut down....but here we have Cindy A wanting to shut the universe down....

I wont mind if the autopsy report isnt released....we can continue to discuss the 'what if's' which seem to enrage her more than the facts of this case.....because Cindy doesnt accept the facts......she prefers to remain in Casey's chaotic junky little world.....

oh wait, BC did mention the endless suppositions.....which did cause me to LAUGH OUT LOUD......documents with findings are released.....Cindy is enraged (oops, checks forged in Cindy's name for starters)......documents NOT released which causes debates and I must say very high quality dialogue, Cindy is enraged......

lose lose for her. Ill settle for that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[Dick Tracy]

BC should have claimed they were still looking for the REAL KILLER with REAL INVESTIGATORS.......

instead he cites bloggers with loose lips who discuss the case on the web......last time I looked, a computer can be shut down....but here we have Cindy A wanting to shut the universe down....

I wont mind if the autopsy report isnt released....we can continue to discuss the 'what if's' which seem to enrage her more than the facts of this case.....because Cindy doesnt accept the facts......she prefers to remain in Casey's chaotic junky little world.....

oh wait, BC did mention the endless suppositions.....which did cause me to LAUGH OUT LOUD......documents with findings are released.....Cindy is enraged (oops, checks forged in Cindy's name for starters)......documents NOT released which causes debates and I must say very high quality dialogue, Cindy is enraged......

lose lose for her. Ill settle for that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

You're in rare form again tonight. Great post Pru.

I don't think she's in anyone's world but her own, and the last time I saw her, she looked like she was growing weary of that. But wait and see. Even though she's desperately trying to stay in Casey's chaotic little junk world, Casey tossed her out along time ago. They just don't get along. Remember the jailhouse video? Casey couldn't even control her temper there. She blew up at Cindy. Fists clenched. Enraged. If looks could kill, Cindy would have been dead back in July 2008.

Back in 1984, Canadian born psychiatrist Eric Berne wrote a book called Games People Play. In it he talks about transactional analysis, or TA.

Casey and her mom rarely experienced complementary transactions, or adult to adult communication. It was always parent to child, which when the dialogue started to flow between the two immediately became a crossed transaction. They don't communicate well at all.

In conversations, the PRP play games in communicating. IFWY, (If it weren't for you), SWYMD, (See what you made me do), UGMIT, (you got me into this)... The list goes on and on. And Cindy plays games in conversation as well.

Here is some more information on TA, in case some of you aren't familiar with it. It's a great read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_analysis#Development_of_Transactiona l_Analysis

[Dick Tracy]

I doubt there will be any bombshell information in the doc dump tomorrow, but it will be nice to have something more to discuss rather than National Enquirer speculative fantasies. So much of what they print is out and out lies I'd swear they had an Anthony or two on the editorial staff.

Actually, the National Enquirer is one of the few rags that actually researches a story pretty well before they print it. They learned their lesson years ago, getting sued for millions by someone (forget who).

I wouldn't necessarily auto-dish the story just because it's in the NE.

[Dick Tracy]

What is this about Bahar? Please fill me in,

Joyce Behar, from the view, will be having a talk show from 9-10pm in the fall, according to sources. I don't care for her, I think she's boring and LOUD.

[Oregongal]

Hi to anyone still here :seeya:
I haven't been here for days, but wanted to check in and let you know I still :wub: you all.
I've been very busy trying to do this house selling thing.
Not only with trying to get things organized and packed, also trying to keep the house tidied as best I can for the prospective buyers that keep trooping thru.
The offer that was on the table at the beginning was recinded.
So now just about everyday there are people making appointments to see the house.
Which interupts everything in our life. We leave when we know someone is coming thru. So we've had to be able to think of places we can go for at least 40 mins up to 2 hrs. It's difficult since we have to take our puppy with us.
It also inturupts our normal daily life and any work we are doing. I hate it. It is so intrusive and altho I know it has to be done, we all feeling very much in upheaval thru it all.
It's gotten the gson off kilter big time, so then we have to deal with his emotions as well as mine and DD's.
We have had 2 days off (no one coming) in the last 2 weeks.
We are all exhausted and emotional.
Since that first offer we have had no other.
Obviously I haven't had time to check in here. I've tried to glean whatever info I can from NG and JVM on what's going on with the case.
I did see that new docs are due to be released tomorrow. Finally!
I also know the autopsy report is on a temporary stay to be released. Dang! I think we could learn alot from that.
Anyway, I would again ask for prayer that someone, anyone will make an offer that will end it all and we will have something solid that will be bringing it all to an end.
We will then be able to really move forward without constant the inturuptions. The ex is supposed to be arranging for a Pod to be delivered so we can move our packed belongings out of the house so prospective buyers can see the house without so much in it as well as not rooms full of already packed boxes. There is soooo much work to do and he also has not come to get his stuff or done the clean up yard work that he said he would do. So now I'm freaking out about that as well.
It must be nice for him to be able to just ignore everything and expect me to do it all! :cursing:
Anyway, sorry for the O/T, but just wanted to let you all know what was happening with me.
Please, please pray that VERY SOON a solid offer will come in. Time is ticking til the date of the foreclosure proceedings and unless we have a solid offer on the table the clock is still ticking on that. If we have a solid offer it will stop those proceedings.
I miss you all and miss posting. Today and tonight I've done as much as I could to catch up, but am still so very far behind and it may be days before I can check in again.
Prayers please and know that I'm praying for you all too.
Hugs and love to you all.

[SaraSidle]

Oregongal I do not know you but I have been lurking on this board for a while. O/T I am so sorry you have to go through all this. I cannot imagine the work or the emotions. I am close to it myself and not looking forward to it. I hope the change is for the better. sara

I do not think there were finger prints on the duct tape on Caylee's mouth but I do believe the tape matched the same one as in the Anthony garage. Also I believe there was some physical evidence under the tape on Caylee's face that could have a tox screen of sort and DNA test run on it. I cannot remember the links though. IMO sara

[aproudmom]

I hate to say it but the Anthony's are wasting their time the report will be released no photos but reports are public record in FL up until 2001 media could actually request photos but the death of Dale Earnhardt changed that..only reports can be released no photos unless it is requested by the family which I agree no photos of someones loved one should end up on some sick A$$ Internet blogger site..can not remember the guys name now but he gets his kicks out of posting very gruesome picture of lost loved ones

I think the Judge was kind in allowing them to have their say on this matter before releasing the report but the media will be there also and they will win..

[Oregongal]

Oregongal I do not know you but I have been lurking on this board for a while. O/T I am so sorry you have to go through all this. I cannot imagine the work or the emotions. I am close to it myself and not looking forward to it. I hope the change is for the better. sara

I do not think there were finger prints on the duct tape on Caylee's mouth but I do believe the tape matched the same one as in the Anthony garage. Also I believe there was some physical evidence under the tape on Caylee's face that could have a tox screen of sort and DNA test run on it. I cannot remember the links though. IMO sara

Thank you Sara and I will be praying for you as you may be facing the same.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

I hate to say it but the Anthony's are wasting their time the report will be released no photos but reports are public record in FL up until 2001 media could actually request photos but the death of Dale Earnhardt changed that..only reports can be released no photos unless it is requested by the family which I agree no photos of someones loved one should end up on some sick A$$ Internet blogger site..can not remember the guys name now but he gets his kicks out of posting very gruesome picture of lost loved ones

I think the Judge was kind in allowing them to have their say on this matter before releasing the report but the media will be there also and they will win..

My bold....ITA mom.
I also believe the Judge was kind in giving them a bit of delay. I do think (could be wrong) that he will allow the report to be released. Photos are one thing...I really wouldn't want to see them...but a written report is another.
If the Ant's think this is going to be such anguish for them, why don't they just not read it if and when it's released?
They DO have a choice as to whether or not they look at the news or get on the internet and see ANY of the discovery.

[SaraSidle]

My bold....ITA mom.
I also believe the Judge was kind in giving them a bit of delay. I do think (could be wrong) that he will allow the report to be released. Photos are one thing...I really wouldn't want to see them...but a written report is another.
If the Ant's think this is going to be such anguish for them, why don't they just not read it if and when it's released?
They DO have a choice as to whether or not they look at the news or get on the internet and see ANY of the discovery.

ITA. I would not want to see any pictures of my family or otherwise. I think only LE,lawyers,judge and jury should be allowed unless it maybe for identification purposes. those pix supposedly floating around of David Carradine for example is so wrong and sick. IMO sara

[Oregongal]

*respectfully snipped

I do not think there were finger prints on the duct tape on Caylee's mouth but I do believe the tape matched the same one as in the Anthony garage. Also I believe there was some physical evidence under the tape on Caylee's face that could have a tox screen of sort and DNA test run on it. I cannot remember the links though. IMO sara

Sara, I'm not so sure there were NO fingerprints on the duct tape.
IIRC, from previous docs about said duct tape, the FBI only eliminated fingerprints from the other Ant's, George, Cindy and Lee. They never mentioned Casey at all.
I would think they would have mentioned Casey as well if her prints were no where on that tape.
I keep thinking of the places on that tape where Casey's prints, or partials may have shown up...on the ends that were attached to the hair. The ends, where the tape was torn or cut and then pressed onto that area of the head/hair.
Prints may not have been immediatly seen if they were examining the outside of the tape, but on the inside, the sticky side, there may have been prints. The FBI also never indicated that they had finished their examination of that tape. Perhaps by now they have completed examining every inch, inside (sticky side) and out (non sticky) of that tape and have found prints of Casey.
Sometimes it's what they don't say turns out to be the most important.
Since I've not seen anything official...unless I totally missed it...where they said Casey was totally eliminated, print wise, I will still continue to think they found at least partial prints of Casey somewhere on that tape.
Or perhaps, they found epiphelials (butchered spelling:huh:....skin cells-DNA) of Casey's stuck to that tape.
Bottom line, I think that duct tape on lil Caylee's skull holds some kind of evidence against Casey.