Thurs., June 11, 2009

[Daffodil]

I think the anthonys fear Dr. G's report on exactly how the tape was found on the skull and in what position the tape was in relation to the "mouth." Dr. G will also speak to the residue left behind by the heart shape sticker. Conway will be exposed as a liar when he stated the heart sticker was not "found" on the tape. I think Dr. G. will confirm that the heart sticker was on the tape, around the mouth area of the skull, but thru time and water damage, it fell off.

I hope Strickland allows the release.




Right. But what BC said could be looked at as the truth. Because it was not "found on the tape". The residue is what they found, in the shape of a perfect heart. Then they found the sticker. So, he could always say he was not lying.

[Sun]

Probably because you have GA comment running through your head...

"If you call them REMAINS one more time, I am leaving!!!"

chuckles.... acting on my urge doesn't make me a better person, so now I'm going to feel guilty. Maybe a good long chat with my Pastor will help.... if nothing else, he'll have an idea for his next sermon. LOL

[bchand]

That's a very good point, Sun. I have my doubts that they have legal standing, as grandparents. They just keep inserting themselves right into the middle of this case, even though supposedly, they are not principles, just relatives.

Unfortunately, according to the motion:

"As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Doesn't cut the mustard for me, but that's what they're using.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html


George and Cindy Anthony and "respectfully" in the same sentence doesn't even compute.

[legalmania]

ITA. I just wonder if George and Cindy have any legal standing to argue against the release of the autopsy. Casey is the parent, not Cindy or George. The State has already successfully gotten all crime scene photos of the remains and autopsy photos sealed, and for good reason.

If the autopsy is release now to the public, then this will be just one thing that the Anthonys can't use as an excuse to "breakdown" during the trial and try to get out of testifying. JMO

Why do I have such an enormous urge to type: REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS...

But wait a minute Casey as she stands has no rights. So it gets pretty sticky I think her parents have rights to speak for her as she is indisposed. This is really a very good legal question. I wonder if there is any case law? I'm just wondering I'm am not searching today. I believe as Florida law goes the prosecution can release information to stop rumors. Did I read remains?

[*MoonRider*]

I just hope the judge approaches this from the standpoint of not wanting to set a precedent. If he opens up the door to the Ants' desire to keep evidence out of the public domain, he better block out lots of time to read BC's motions. And Conway better get ready to file motion after motion after motion.

I really don't think the Sunshine Laws were intended to be circumvented by family members of criminals OR crime victims with agendas.

With regard to your *urge* ... let's just say the Ants' antics tend to bring out the cra-za-zy in many of us. :w00t:

Like you said earlier, it's not about them. When will they finally realize that this a a murder trial and their daughter is the murderer? Where is the outrage? Why aren't the looking for Zanny the killer? They make me sick. imo

[legalmania]

I think that's a part of google's selective advertising. Seriously. Do you have a google toolbar?

It works by following your activities on the internet, what sites you visit and how often, and then it personalizes the ad(s) to suit your interests.

You can opt out of this advertising at google; I don't have a link to the opt-out information, though, sorry.

Isn't that under history. I know Mac is totally different.

[Daffodil]

But wait a minute Casey as she stands has no rights. So it gets pretty sticky I think her parents have rights to speak for her as she is indisposed. This is really a very good legal question. I wonder if there is any case law? I'm just wondering I'm am not searching today. I believe as Florida law goes the prosecution can release information to stop rumors. Did I read remains?




Well, I hope the judge takes into consideration that George and Cindy are Caylee's grandparents as well as they are the parents of the accused killer. Would he allow the autopsy to be sealed when a request is made by the accused family?

[True2Blues]

ITA. I just wonder if George and Cindy have any legal standing to argue against the release of the autopsy. Casey is the parent, not Cindy or George. The State has already successfully gotten all crime scene photos of the remains and autopsy photos sealed, and for good reason.

If the autopsy is release now to the public, then this will be just one thing that the Anthonys can't use as an excuse to "breakdown" during the trial and try to get out of testifying. JMO

Why do I have such an enormous urge to type: REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS, REMAINS...

Since it is evidence in a murder case, it is property of the state of Florida. I don't see why either Casey or G and C have any say on whether the autopsy report is released to the public.

I'm sure they will all yell and carry on, but I don't see the decision being theirs.

[True2Blues]

I can see the As telling the court when Casey is being sentenced that DP or LWOP is going to cause them great distress. Who gives a hoot!

Having a baby murderer coming up for parole and possibly on the streets would probably cause the people of the state of Florida more distress, and they count, whereas G and C......not so much.

[Unleashed]

chuckles.... acting on my urge doesn't make me a better person, so now I'm going to feel guilty. Maybe a good long chat with my Pastor will help.... if nothing else, he'll have an idea for his next sermon. LOL

Doesn't need to make you a better person, Sun. Long as it makes you feel better. You are among friends. :thumbsup:

JMO

[Sun]

But wait a minute Casey as she stands has no rights. So it gets pretty sticky I think her parents have rights to speak for her as she is indisposed. This is really a very good legal question. I wonder if there is any case law? I'm just wondering I'm am not searching today. I believe as Florida law goes the prosecution can release information to stop rumors. Did I read remains?

Casey is represented by her own counsel. That is her right.

Has the Defense "leaked" to Conway and the Anthonys, what Fridays Doc Dump contains? Or are the Anthonys just trying to have the judge seal something that they don't even know what it contains?

[legalmania]

Well, I hope the judge takes into consideration that George and Cindy are Caylee's grandparents as well as they are the parents of the accused killer. Would he allow the autopsy to be sealed when a request is made by the accused family?

He can in Florida? If he feels it may jeopardize the case. I think he would only consider it if the defense put in a motion. I really don't want to look this up.

[Chardonnay]

Probably because you have GA comment running through your head...

"If you call them REMAINS one more time, I am leaving!!!"

"And quit flipping me the bird!!" :tonguewag:

[legalmania]

Casey is represented by her own counsel. That is her right.

Has the Defense "leaked" to Conway and the Anthonys, what Fridays Doc Dump contains? Or are the Anthonys just trying to have the judge seal something that they don't even know what it contains?

She has a right to counsel but she choose to remain silent. You guys are going to make me look up the statute aren't you? I don't know but I can't wait to read it. I think sometimes the Anthonys make a big deal out of it so everybody will read it and it's nothing. Like last time.

[legalmania]

"And quit flipping me the bird!!" :tonguewag:

Is somebody taking my position as trouble?

[Katprint]

Unfortunately, according to the motion:

"As custodians to Caylee's remains and (as) her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony are respectfully asking this court to restrict the release of the autopsy results."

Doesn't cut the mustard for me, but that's what they're using.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19724459/detail.html<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[trich]

What will upset me is if the judge allows this and stops
the release of the autopsy report...just for the fact that it will give more entitlement to the Anthonys and there will be no stoping them from here on out.
I resent the authorities allowing them any slack considering what liars they are and how they have tried to blame this whole travisty on others.

[Sun]

She has a right to counsel but she choose to remain silent. You guys are going to make me look up the statute aren't you? I don't know but I can't wait to read it. I think sometimes the Anthonys make a big deal out of it so everybody will read it and it's nothing. Like last time.

You are so sweet! You don't have to go to this trouble on my account.... I need to practice being patient. LOL

ITA, the Anthonys do seem to like to try to make a big deal out of things that are nothing. We've seen this over and over again. LOL

[Daffodil]

He can in Florida? If he feels it may jeopardize the case. I think he would only consider it if the defense put in a motion. I really don't want to look this up.



I'm just saying they are the parents of the accused killer. How would a judge weigh that in his decision to seal an autopsy report?

[*MoonRider*]

I can see the As telling the court when Casey is being sentenced that DP or LWOP is going to cause them great distress. Who gives a hoot!

ITA, it looks like the report will be released tomorrow despite what Cindy wants. It's all about Cindy ya know. :sneaky:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

[Daffodil]

<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions




Thanks Kat. So it is pretty much the A's actions and words that will be what prevents them from having it sealed?

[Chardonnay]

Is somebody taking my position as trouble?

Opps, sawee... :ohmy:

I prolly won't be sleeping tonight, waiting for tomorrow's doc dump! :thumbsup:

[Katprint]

ITA, it looks like the report will be released tomorrow despite what Cindy wants. It's all about Cindy ya know. :sneaky:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story
No disrespect intended, but I interpreted the news article differently i.e. that the report will NOT be released tomorrow but instead release will be delayed until a further hearing on the motion after the media who are the Real Parties In Interest get a chance to respond.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[legalmania]

You are so sweet! You don't have to go to this trouble on my account.... I need to practice being patient. LOL

ITA, the Anthonys do seem to like to try to make a big deal out of things that are nothing. We've seen this over and over again. LOL

Bless you, can I get you something from the kitchen?

[Sun]

<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Whew! You make a good argument! Thanks for this input!

The public's right to know is pretty powerful.

[legalmania]

Opps, sawee... :ohmy:

I prolly won't be sleeping tonight, waiting for tomorrow's doc dump! :thumbsup:


Me to: TGFF

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[trich]

ITA, it looks like the report will be released tomorrow despite what Cindy wants. It's all about Cindy ya know. :sneaky:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

i am reading that the autopsy report will not be released!!!

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

[*MoonRider*]

No disrespect intended, but I interpreted the news article differently i.e. that the report will NOT be released tomorrow but instead release will be delayed until a further hearing on the motion after the media who are the Real Parties In Interest get a chance to respond.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions
None taken. The link changed from the time I posted it. This crazy internet is amazing.

[legalmania]

<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Gez Katprint I thought I was reading a brief for a moment, ya what she said.:glare:

[Dick Tracy]

bolding mine

If you watch Dr G medical examiner show she does use any clue in her autopsies to form a matter of death, which must be proved medically .

She will not make a decision on a manner of death unless it is verified with facts.

Her autopsy on Caylee must have had proof that it is a homicide. Her show sometmes listed manner of death unkown so she must have some verifilable facts to say homicide.

I didn't even know she had a show on TV... Dang. I don't have much of a stomach for those autopsy shows on TV. When they pull out the hack saw, I'm running for the door - go cut the grass or something.

[Chardonnay]

i am reading that the autopsy report will not be released!!!

This makes me mad. The Ants win again...:cursing: Like a poster said earlier, when the report comes out at trial, they will be so upset and fragile, and won't be able to take the stand.. They should come out now, so the Ant's would adjust to knowing what's in the report.. jmo

[bchand]

No disrespect intended, but I interpreted the news article differently i.e. that the report will NOT be released tomorrow but instead release will be delayed until a further hearing on the motion after the media who are the Real Parties In Interest get a chance to respond.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

That's right. It says:

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

[Sun]

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

[legalmania]

I didn't even know she had a show on TV... Dang. I don't have much of a stomach for those autopsy shows on TV. When they pull out the hack saw, I'm running for the door - go cut the grass or something.

Amen, My tummy gets backlogged.

[bchand]

It's just amazing to me how the media, LE, the SA, and the public all cause the Anthony's "great anguish."

They have NEVER put any blame on the person who deserves it - their daughter.

[Scampi]

<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


Thank you Kat. Always good to be reminded that the people of the great State of Florida also have an interest/rights in this case. They have a huge burden of proving murder one beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm sure Lyon's motion to dismiss the DP in this case will be public.

Thanks Big B.!!!

[legalmania]

This makes me mad. The Ants win again...:cursing: Like a poster said earlier, when the report comes out at trial, they will be so upset and fragile, and won't be able to take the stand.. They should come out now, so the Ant's would adjust to knowing what's in the report.. jmo

G&A have no standing in this trail, they have not been arrested. They only have an interest, to sue. I have loads of case law on this.

[bchand]

Scampi - incoming PM

[Sun]

It's just amazing to me how the media, LE, the SA, and the public all cause the Anthony's "great anguish."

They have NEVER put any blame on the person who deserves it - their daughter.

They are mainaining (at least to the public and to LE) that Casey didn't murder Caylee. If this were true, wouldn't you think that they would want ALL and EVERYTHING released to the public, so that the public could "see" this for themselves?

[bchand]

They are mainaining (at least to the public and to LE) that Casey didn't murder Caylee. If this were true, wouldn't you think that they would want ALL and EVERYTHING released to the public, so that the public could "see" this for themselves?

You're right. They keep saying "we" don't know the whole story. I guess we'll have to wait til the trial to hear the big secret.

The good news is - Casey will be in jail while we wait.

[Scampi]

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story


:cuss: Phooey!

[GumShoeJoe]

In a motion filed by their attorney, George and Cindy Anthony argue that "the information contained within in the report will cause great anguish to the Anthony family."

Perhaps George and Cindy should NOT read the report. Perhaps they should NOT watch/listen to the news. They have a choice.

Perhaps George and Cindy should pack up their belonging and move to some deserted island. Or, go into a recovery/rehab live-in program. They need to learn to deal with it.

I really need to stop reading here, these folks (Anthony's) actions really annoy me.. I am so sick of this being a three-way criminal trial: the State, Casey, and the Grandparents who keep inserting themselves and asserting their rights as VIPs in the criminal trial.

Can anyone claim "too painful"? What if someones aunts, uncles, siblings, spouse, WHOEVER, started saying "this stuff will cause me pain"?

I am sorry about the horrendous loss of their grandaughter, what an awful thing to go through, but the criminal trial is, in many ways, a separate event that must go on according to the law.

I have never seen the grandparents of a murder victim insert themselves so prominently in any case.

[Sun]

You're right. They keep saying "we" don't know the whole story. I guess we'll have to wait til the trial to hear the big secret.

The good news is - Casey will be in jail while we wait.

Yes, Casey is behind bars, and society is safe from her. That is a good thing. Ah yes, "the big secret" LOL

[FoxySly]

I'm not sure she feels guilt. She might ... I'm just not at all sure. Guilt would be a normal response under the circumstances. I haven't seen a normal response out of her yet. And I have never seen her so much as HINT at any level of responsibility for what has transpired. Just the opposite, in fact. When she's backed into a corner with her ridiculous accusations about people outside her home, she just as quickly finds someone INSIDE her home, other than herself, to point a finger at. Given enough time and a tight enough corner, she'd finger Caylee for bringing on her own murder. I truly believe that.

If it is guilt causing her behavior, I still have little sympathy. At the age of 50-51, as a wife, mother, grandmother, career RN, she should have a much better developed skill set for dealing with crises. Trying to deflect blame onto others, lying, being deceptive, attempting to manipulate, being combative and rude and disrespectful, destroying mementos other people have left NOT on her property ... these are not the behaviors of even a marginally functioning adult. If this is how she has dealt with trouble in her life, she should've sought counseling long, long ago.

I give a certain amount of leeway to young people who act out like Cindy has, but not to full-grown adults who have failed to ask for help with their own personality or emotional issues. As adults, it's our responsibility to get a clue before we hit middle age, imo. How could she hope to raise normal, healthy children with so many personal issues of her own?

Makes me NUTS. :mad:


ITA but, but, butt she was also dealing with her RPD don't forget :wink:

Sly

~

[*MoonRider*]

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

Strickland had to get the "you are stupid" slam in. :biggrin:

[101Spots]

ITA, it looks like the report will be released tomorrow despite what Cindy wants. It's all about Cindy ya know. :sneaky:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

From your link:
"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

Smackdown, Conway.

[legalmania]

They are mainaining (at least to the public and to LE) that Casey didn't murder Caylee. If this were true, wouldn't you think that they would want ALL and EVERYTHING released to the public, so that the public could "see" this for themselves?

The Anthonys are trying to prove damages so they can sue. Their working on a civil suit. If the judge doesn't take a look at these motions they're gonna claim fowl. The court system hurry up and wait.

[legalmania]

From your link:
"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

Smackdown, Conway.

OK so I'm so excited, is on. Get off your bums and dance.

[bchand]

The Anthonys are trying to prove damages so they can sue. Their working on a civil suit. If the judge doesn't take a look at these motions they're gonna claim fowl. The court system hurry up and wait.

But as others have said, this case isn't about "them." (As much as they think it is.)

I noticed BC mentions "public forums" and the internet in his motion. Another knock against bloggers?

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet. The publication of these results has already been the topic of countless television programs despite the fact that the actual autopsy report has not been released."

[101Spots]

OK so I'm so excited, is on. Get off your bums and dance.


I'm So Excited (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/thhappy-dance.gif)

[Anakerie]

No disrespect intended, but I interpreted the news article differently i.e. that the report will NOT be released tomorrow but instead release will be delayed until a further hearing on the motion after the media who are the Real Parties In Interest get a chance to respond.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Especially since the motion was only sent to the prosecutor's office and none of the media were notified about it... Wow.. Has Brad been taking lessons from Baez on how to file a motion?

[breezie]

But as others have said, this case isn't about "them." (As much as they think it is.)

I noticed BC mentions "public forums" and the internet in his motion. Another knock against bloggers?

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet. The publication of these results has already been the topic of countless television programs despite the fact that the actual autopsy report has not been released."

well, we got nothing but time, Conway...:tonguewag: I'm sure what we could speculate about is worse than the actual facts. Might as well release the facts.

[summer]

Am I off base in thinking Conway sure knows how to work the system. Perhaps intentionally omit serving the "media" (it's pretty obvious) knowing there will be a delay? Then on the day of the hearing, uh, maybe hurt his back again or come down with acid reflux?

It could be months before this is heard. How many times does Judge Strickland get played?

[Anakerie]

I didn't even know she had a show on TV... Dang. I don't have much of a stomach for those autopsy shows on TV. When they pull out the hack saw, I'm running for the door - go cut the grass or something.
Dr G's show is a good one... You might get a glimpse of the "tools" she uses, but for the most part, you don't really see anything. She talks a lot about how she comes to a conclusion about how someone died.. It's fascinating how she does it...

[msgatorslayer]

But as others have said, this case isn't about "them." (As much as they think it is.)

I noticed BC mentions "public forums" and the internet in his motion. Another knock against bloggers?

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet. The publication of these results has already been the topic of countless television programs despite the fact that the actual autopsy report has not been released."

They can dance and cheer all they want tonight. I don't think there is any BOMBSHELL news in the report anyway.

They may want to worry a bit more about the other pages which will be released tommorrow. All of us BLOGGERS will have something to do with or without the autopsy report.:tongueside: BRING EM ON!!!

[FallenAngel♥]

Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland issued an order late Thursday that will delay the release of the autopsy reports, which were expected to be made public on Friday, until the issue is addressed in court. He wants to hear from the media about the Anthonys' request.

"For reasons unknown to the court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office," Strickland wrote in the order. "The real party in interest in this matter is the various news media."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

I think the Judge will listen to them in court but will still release it.

[5boxersmom]

What are they going to do when it all comes out in court during the trial?

[saywhat04]

<respectfully snipped>

The counter argument is that when The People are prosecuting someone for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty, then the supporting facts need to be public. Basically the same rationale as why we have public trials in the first place i.e. to make sure government is not abusing its authority and violating the rights of the citizenry. This is particularly true where the defendant has already proclaimed that the prosecution is being done "on a whim" and has sworn under oath that she believes the death penalty is strategically intended to coerce a false confession and to force the defendant to plead guilty to a crime she didn't commit. Even Cindy herself recently claimed that Casey was being prosecuted just because Casey lied about her employment. The public has the right to know whether the justice system is being abused as described by the defendant (and Cindy), or whether there are facts - such as may be included in the autopsy report - which support the ongoing prosecution for First Degree Murder and seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Dang tootin.

[legalmania]

Yes, Casey is behind bars, and society is safe from her. That is a good thing. Ah yes, "the big secret" LOL

Casey is going to be in jail for a long time. She committed theft and murder. The theft is a given and a judge will give her plenty of time for that because she didn't give it up when he asked.

[saywhat04]

Late breaking news on HLN. Judge is holding the release of the autopsy report -- he wants to hear from the media.

:cursing::cursing::cursing:

[Anakerie]

They can dance and cheer all they want tonight. I don't think there is any BOMBSHELL news in the report anyway.

They may want to worry a bit more about the other pages which will be released tommorrow. All of us BLOGGERS will have something to do with or without the autopsy report.:tongueside: BRING EM ON!!!
I doubt if there's going to be a bombshell in the report either.. From what Dr. G said at the news conference when the announced that it was Caylee, for the most part the remains were just bones.. What can the autopsy report say about bones that would so cause so much "anguish"?

[saywhat04]

Dr G's show is a good one... You might get a glimpse of the "tools" she uses, but for the most part, you don't really see anything. She talks a lot about how she comes to a conclusion about how someone died.. It's fascinating how she does it...

ITA. She's something else. Not sure how that personality ended up in an ME, but I like it! :thumbup:

[legalmania]

I'm So Excited (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/thhappy-dance.gif)

Hey people the music is on my dime, so get up and dance

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[Anakerie]

What are they going to do when it all comes out in court during the trial?
George and Cindy will cause a scene in the gallery by fainting or something?

[saywhat04]

Don't those dipwads always create a ruckus just before a doc dump? Oh Cindy... you are so predictable. :thumbdown: Give us all a break and just shutta yer face.

*AP*

Yes, they do, Pooh. And yes, she's predictable.

Unfortunately, the Sentinel is supposedly reporting the judge will hold the autopsy report back from the docs released tomorrow. :mad:

ETA: Here's the dang link. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

[summer]

ITA. She's something else. Not sure how that personality ended up in an ME, but I like it! :thumbup:

How would you describe her personality? I've never seen that show. Is she funny or flamboyant or ... ???

[Sun]

Am I off base in thinking Conway sure knows how to work the system. Perhaps intentionally omit serving the "media" (it's pretty obvious) knowing there will be a delay? Then on the day of the hearing, uh, maybe hurt his back again or come down with acid reflux?

It could be months before this is heard. How many times does Judge Strickland get played?

And, remember that Baez didn't notice the media in regards to his Motion about the jail video either. Seems to be a trend lately.

Judge Strickland is very experienced, and I expect that he's dealt with all types of attorneys and such. So far, he's mostly been very, very patient.... and professional. He's got far more patience that I do, but with him leading the way, Justice should be served. Eventually.

[bchand]

This sentence sounded so familiar to me -

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet.

I found the resemblance.

http://current.com/items/76923932_i-can-haz-brains.htm

"our education such as South Africa and DIraq everywhere like such as"

[saywhat04]

How would you describe her personality? I've never seen that show. Is she funny or flamboyant or ... ???

I would describe it as very "non-scientific," as opposed to her highly scientific choice of career.

She seems very extroverted, which kind of surprises me. And while her job is very technical, her explanations are extremely easy to understand and she's just very interesting and fun to listen to. imo

[*MoonRider*]

I'm So Excited (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/thhappy-dance.gif)
I feel like dancing. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/dancer.gif

[summer]

And, remember that Baez didn't notice the media in regards to his Motion about the jail video either. Seems to be a trend lately.

Judge Strickland is very experienced, and I expect that he's dealt with all types of attorneys and such. So far, he's mostly been very, very patient.... and professional. He's got far more patience that I do, but with him leading the way, Justice should be served. Eventually.

Yes, I have confidence in this Judge, but I wonder how many times an obvious omission like this is tolerated. It's a ploy, plain and simple!

[saywhat04]

This sentence sounded so familiar to me -

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet.

I found the resemblance.

http://current.com/items/76923932_i-can-haz-brains.htm

"our education such as South Africa and DIraq everywhere like such as"

..... :lol: ..... :lol:

[summer]

I would describe it as very "non-scientific," as opposed to her highly scientific choice of career.

She seems very extroverted, which kind of surprises me. And while her job is very technical, her explanations are extremely easy to understand and she's just very interesting and fun to listen to. imo

Ah, thank you. She sounds like an extraordinary woman.

[summer]

this sentence sounded so familiar to me -

"releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the internet.

i found the resemblance.

http://current.com/items/76923932_i-can-haz-brains.htm

"our education such as south africa and diraq everywhere like such as"

ha ha ha ha!

[Sun]

HLN Prime News just discussed this latest motion. Good stuff. They all agree, the law is the law. The public has a right to this info. And in this case, the media wants to be able to provide this info to the public. It's the medias fight.

[saywhat04]

Ah, thank you. She sounds like an extraordinary woman.

She's Everywoman. :smile: You could easily sit down for lunch or a glass of wine (or coffee) with her. She's a mom of two boys, IIRC. And she fairly recently remarried.

[5boxersmom]

George and Cindy will cause a scene in the gallery by fainting or something?

I don't doubt it. :rolleyes:

jmo

[Dick Tracy]

I imagine that something like this happened this afternoon.. Just my opinion of course!

Ring Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnng

Receptionist: Good Afternoon the law offices of Jose Baez.

Conway: Yeah, hi, I need to speak with Jose. Tell him BC's on the line.

Receptionist: One moment please.

Baez: This is Jose.

Conway: 'sup Jose? Hey listen man, I'm getting ready to file some paperwork to delay the autopsy stuff from being released. If it get's released, you and I are going to look like liars, you know? Any advice?

Baez: Yeah, yeah. First of all, you have to wait until about 4:55 to get it over there. Okay?

Conway: Done.

Baez: And then, the lawyers for the media have to get a copy of this request, right? Well, don't send it to them, yet. Let the Judge let them know, so that they're going to have to take a day or two to respond. Poof, there's the whole weekend gone. Got it?

Conway: Yeah, that's good thinking Jose. You the man.

Baez: Third. Even though we know the Judge is going to paste you up and down in the court about this request, you still have to make it as vague as possible. Understand? DO NOT CITE CASE LAW.

Conway: Yeah, got it.

Baez: Last but not least, how's your back?

Conway: Okay. Good.

Baez: No, no, no. I said "Hows your back?"

Conway: Oh yeah. I get ya. It's still really sore.

Baez: Okay.. See you sometime.

Conway: Thanks Jose.

CLICK.

[bchand]

I feel like dancing. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/dancer.gif

That'll be perfect on verdict day!

[legalmania]

But as others have said, this case isn't about "them." (As much as they think it is.)

I noticed BC mentions "public forums" and the internet in his motion. Another knock against bloggers?

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet. The publication of these results has already been the topic of countless television programs despite the fact that the actual autopsy report has not been released."


I'm glad your talking to me again. IMO It isn't about them. They haven't been arrested on any crime. They have no standing, they only have an interest which has to be solved civilly.

[101Spots]

Hey people the music is on my dime, so get up and dance

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Mixed signals here. Make up your mind! :tonguewag:

[TunaMelt]

This makes me mad. The Ants win again...:cursing: Like a poster said earlier, when the report comes out at trial, they will be so upset and fragile, and won't be able to take the stand.. They should come out now, so the Ant's would adjust to knowing what's in the report.. jmo

I think it will be released before trial...seems the motion was not filed with the court, but only given to the prosecution, once again I don't know why even Conway doesn't know how to file motions :rolleyes:, but because of this, we now have to have it presented to the court, and argued before the court, Conway v the media attorneys.

Delay, delay, delay.

That's what it is.

But there's no legal reason to withhold the report and we'll see it before those Anthony people want us to see it.

What good is all this delay, though?
:confused:

[Lavinia]

Hi Lavinia, I have not been on here in so long. I think just too much with the little girl from Detroit. Anyway, I am back today and agree with you. Yes, Casey has had her last call for alcohol.

Hey Nana! Still traveling? Yep, Casey will never pay another corkage fee again, lol.

I'm so glad we're getting some new documents. I'm just over in open court blabbing about my hair color for Pete's sake. :laugh:

[Dick Tracy]

This sentence sounded so familiar to me -

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet.

I found the resemblance.

http://current.com/items/76923932_i-can-haz-brains.htm

"our education such as South Africa and DIraq everywhere like such as"

OMG! I just exploded up here. Too funny! :w00t:

[legalmania]

Mixed signals here. Make up your mind! :tonguewag:

Nobody is responding so I'll just keep going. Buy 10pm est. I have cleared the board.

[101Spots]

I feel like dancing. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/dancer.gif

And here I thought you were of the female persuasion.....

[Sun]

I imagine that something like this happened this afternoon.. Just my opinion of course!

Ring Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnng

Receptionist: Good Afternoon the law offices of Jose Baez.

Conway: Yeah, hi, I need to speak with Jose. Tell him BC's on the line.

Receptionist: One moment please.

Baez: This is Jose.

Conway: 'sup Jose? Hey listen man, I'm getting ready to file some paperwork to delay the autopsy stuff from being released. If it get's released, you and I are going to look like liars, you know? Any advice?

Baez: Yeah, yeah. First of all, you have to wait until about 4:55 to get it over there. Okay?

Conway: Done.

Baez: And then, the lawyers for the media have to get a copy of this request, right? Well, don't send it to them, yet. Let the Judge let them know, so that they're going to have to take a day or two to respond. Poof, there's the whole weekend gone. Got it?

Conway: Yeah, that's good thinking Jose. You the man.

Baez: Third. Even though we know the Judge is going to paste you up and down in the court about this request, you still have to make it as vague as possible. Understand? DO NOT CITE CASE LAW.

Conway: Yeah, got it.

Baez: Last but not least, how's your back?

Conway: Okay. Good.

Baez: No, no, no. I said "Hows your back?"

Conway: Oh yeah. I get ya. It's still really sore.

Baez: Okay.. See you sometime.

Conway: Thanks Jose.

CLICK.

Thank you. I sure needed a good laugh!

[bchand]

Hey Nana! Still traveling? Yep, Casey will never pay another corkage fee again, lol.

I'm so glad we're getting some new documents. I'm just over in open court blabbing about my hair color for Pete's sake. :laugh:

Oh your hair is perfect ! We're just over here dancing -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ElaineBeniseDancingSeinfeld.gif

[BobbysGirl]

I imagine that something like this happened this afternoon.. Just my opinion of course!

Ring Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnng

Receptionist: Good Afternoon the law offices of Jose Baez.

Conway: Yeah, hi, I need to speak with Jose. Tell him BC's on the line.

Receptionist: One moment please.

Baez: This is Jose.

Conway: 'sup Jose? Hey listen man, I'm getting ready to file some paperwork to delay the autopsy stuff from being released. If it get's released, you and I are going to look like liars, you know? Any advice?

Baez: Yeah, yeah. First of all, you have to wait until about 4:55 to get it over there. Okay?

Conway: Done.

Baez: And then, the lawyers for the media have to get a copy of this request, right? Well, don't send it to them, yet. Let the Judge let them know, so that they're going to have to take a day or two to respond. Poof, there's the whole weekend gone. Got it?

Conway: Yeah, that's good thinking Jose. You the man.

Baez: Third. Even though we know the Judge is going to paste you up and down in the court about this request, you still have to make it as vague as possible. Understand? DO NOT CITE CASE LAW.

Conway: Yeah, got it.

Baez: Last but not least, how's your back?

Conway: Okay. Good.

Baez: No, no, no. I said "Hows your back?"

Conway: Oh yeah. I get ya. It's still really sore.

Baez: Okay.. See you sometime.

Conway: Thanks Jose.

CLICK.

LOL As I suspected. The usual norm for abnorm.





On and off since yesterday. We have storms here in DFW area.


BG

[Katprint]

I think it will be released before trial...seems the motion was not filed with the court, but only given to the prosecution, once again I don't know why even Conway doesn't know how to file motions :rolleyes:, but because of this, we now have to have it presented to the court, and argued before the court, Conway v the media attorneys.

Delay, delay, delay.

That's what it is.

But there's no legal reason to withhold the report and we'll see it before those Anthony people want us to see it.

What good is all this delay, though?
:confused:<bolding mine>

Theoretically there could possibly be legal reason to withhold the report, for example if there is something really inflammatory in the report. I wouldn't expect skeletonized remains to show signs of sexual abuse like is apparently present in the autopsy report of poor little Sandra Cantu (whose autopsy report has NOT been released for this reason.) However, something outrageous like tool marks on the bones which indicate that Caylee was butchered and eaten, something horrific like that, could possibly constitute a legal reason to withhold the autopsy report.

NOTE: I do not have any information about such outrageous, inflammatory circumstances (other than the already universally-known duct tape on the skull). I am merely trying to state examples of what the court might deem "good cause" to grant a protective order not to release the autopsy report.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[legalmania]

I think it will be released before trial...seems the motion was not filed with the court, but only given to the prosecution, once again I don't know why even Conway doesn't know how to file motions :rolleyes:, but because of this, we now have to have it presented to the court, and argued before the court, Conway v the media attorneys.

Delay, delay, delay.

That's what it is.

But there's no legal reason to withhold the report and we'll see it before those Anthony people want us to see it.

What good is all this delay, though?
:confused:

Since C&G are no longer on the t.v. they need to get their fix over the internet. They are getting full on us talking about them. As long as they are being talked about somebody feels sorry for them (which I do)and sends them money (which I won't).

[MiamiNice1]

I really need to stop reading here, these folks (Anthony's) actions really annoy me.. I am so sick of this being a three-way criminal trial: the State, Casey, and the Grandparents who keep inserting themselves and asserting their rights as VIPs in the criminal trial.

Can anyone claim "too painful"? What if someones aunts, uncles, siblings, spouse, WHOEVER, started saying "this stuff will cause me pain"?

I am sorry about the horrendous loss of their grandaughter, what an awful thing to go through, but the criminal trial is, in many ways, a separate event that must go on according to the law.

I have never seen the grandparents of a murder victim insert themselves so prominently in any case.

I love the way you put things and the bolded by me is the best way to word this situation. They are literally making this a three-ring circus - I hope Judge Strickland catches on soon.

[Pruddennce]

I doubt if there's going to be a bombshell in the report either.. From what Dr. G said at the news conference when the announced that it was Caylee, for the most part the remains were just bones.. What can the autopsy report say about bones that would so cause so much "anguish"?

autopsy reports usually list what accompanied the body.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[nana6]

Hey Nana! Still traveling? Yep, Casey will never pay another corkage fee again, lol.

I'm so glad we're getting some new documents. I'm just over in open court blabbing about my hair color for Pete's sake. :laugh:

Hi Lavinia, How is your hair color by the way? I hope you like it. I got mine done yesterday-feel like a new woman!!
Well, I t hink this has gone too far as far as the A's and BC and this autopsy report. Plain and simple, the public has the RIGHT to know and the media in my opinion will get it released thru the judge. They can stall all they want but the law is the law and I do believe the G nd C had better get used to it. Their daughter is getting a good dose of what the law is.

[martha]

All of the lawyers or doing it trying to find a way to delay. They have no big bomb shell to get casey out of this and they know it. If someone elce killed Caylee then le would be out looking for them. c and g need to stay out of this until trial time and then they can get on the stand and tell as many lies as they want to only the pros.will call their hand on it. Getting on tv shows now and telling lies or not doing them any good. As long as casey is in jail that is fine with me. I think c and g or trying to make enough money to get her out. I guess the foundation is not bring in enough money yet for them to get her out. I am sure casey is mad at them for doing all they or doing and not working so they can get her out that may be the reason she is not seeing them. I think there is money going to jb and the other lawyers we just don;t know where it is coming from. jmho

[nana6]

I love the way you put things and the bolded by me is the best way to word this situation. They are literally making this a three-ring circus - I hope Judge Stirckland catches on soon.

Hi Miami, ITA The A's, imo still believe that THEY are in charge and I believe that the judge needs to set them straight as to how the law works not how things may work in the House of Anthony. No one cares. All we want is justice for this precious baby who their murdering daughter took the life out of to get back at her mother imo as always

[Pam1569]

Sorry to say wesh just announced on the 6pm news that the autopsy report will not be released tomorrow with the rest of the discovery in tomorrows release. Judge Strickland will be holding a hearing next week to hear arguments from both parties and then make his decision on whether or not to release the autopsy report. Sorry no link to the update yet on wesh.

[TunaMelt]

<bolding mine>

Theoretically there could possibly be legal reason to withhold the report, for example if there is something really inflammatory in the report. I wouldn't expect skeletonized remains to show signs of sexual abuse like is apparently present in the autopsy report of poor little Sandra Cantu (whose autopsy report has NOT been released for this reason.) However, something outrageous like tool marks on the bones which indicate that Caylee was butchered and eaten, something horrific like that, could possibly constitute a legal reason to withhold the autopsy report.

NOTE: I do not have any information about such outrageous, inflammatory circumstances (other than the already universally-known duct tape on the skull). I am merely trying to state examples of what the court might deem "good cause" to grant a protective order not to release the autopsy report.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I'm glad you put that disclaimer at the end there :scared:

Seriously, thanks Kat. I didn't hear about little Sandra's autopsy. That poor child, but I guess that goes without saying.

Thanks for the explanation, Kat. It's always appreciated.
:thumbup:

[saywhat04]

I think it will be released before trial...seems the motion was not filed with the court, but only given to the prosecution, once again I don't know why even Conway doesn't know how to file motions :rolleyes:, but because of this, we now have to have it presented to the court, and argued before the court, Conway v the media attorneys.

Delay, delay, delay.

That's what it is.

But there's no legal reason to withhold the report and we'll see it before those Anthony people want us to see it.

What good is all this delay, though?
:confused:

Bolding mine.

It feeds the Anthonys' sense they're in control. :mad:

[TunaMelt]

Sorry to say wesh just announced on the 6pm news that the autopsy report will not be released tomorrow with the rest of the discovery in tomorrows release. Judge Strickland will be holding a hearing next week to hear arguments from both parties and then make his decision on whether or not to release the autopsy report. Sorry no link to the update yet on wesh.

Hi Pam, I think that's already been linked here. Delay tactics, as usual, by Conway on behalf of Baez.

:rolleyes::thumbdown:

[legalmania]

All of the lawyers or doing it trying to find a way to delay. They have no big bomb shell to get casey out of this and they know it. If someone elce killed Caylee then le would be out looking for them. c and g need to stay out of this until trial time and then they can get on the stand and tell as many lies as they want to only the pros.will call their hand on it. Getting on tv shows now and telling lies or not doing them any good. As long as casey is in jail that is fine with me. I think c and g or trying to make enough money to get her out. I guess the foundation is not bring in enough money yet for them to get her out. I am sure casey is mad at them for doing all they or doing and not working so they can get her out that may be the reason she is not seeing them. I think there is money going to jb and the other lawyers we just don;t know where it is coming from. jmho

There is no way she is getting out I would put my money on OJ getting out before she does. I'm not betting on either one.

[norwood]

ITA, it looks like the report will be released tomorrow despite what Cindy wants. It's all about Cindy ya know. :sneaky:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-autopsy-documents-61109,0,5615388.story

And once again a motion is filed incorrectly. It was only filed to the state attorney's office and not to the media. Seems BC is no smarter than JB

[Pam1569]

Hi Pam, I think that's already been linked here. Delay tactics, as usual, by Conway on behalf of Baez.

:rolleyes::thumbdown:

Thanks Tuna, Can't believe that this is still happening. I realize that JB has become a pro at stalling but now he has Cindy's trained attorney doing it now. What the heck is next. (shaking head drastically)

[TunaMelt]

Bolding mine.

It feeds the Anthonys' sense they're in control. :mad:

I really believe this is a move by Conway and his clients to aid Baez and his client.

I mean, it's silly, unless as Kat said, the report contains information that is inappropriate for public release, but I doubt this is the case here for Caylee's remains.

And if all docs were to be sealed because they cause anguish, why don't they just rewrite the Sunshine Laws to say something to the effect that:

From here on out, no information will be released to the public if it hurts somebuddy's feelings. :rolleyes:


:wink:

[legalmania]

Hi Pam, I think that's already been linked here. Delay tactics, as usual, by Conway on behalf of Baez.

:rolleyes::thumbdown:

I'm gonna start faxing the media case law. They got this one. Come on you lawyers put in your emergency motions you want the public to read your stuff, you gotta give a little.

[Lavinia]

This sentence sounded so familiar to me -

"Releasing the autopsy report to the media at this point in time causes endless comment and speculation in the media and public forums, such as the Internet.

I found the resemblance.

http://current.com/items/76923932_i-can-haz-brains.htm

"our education such as South Africa and DIraq everywhere like such as"

ROTFLOL!:lol::lol:

[TunaMelt]

Thanks Tuna, Can't believe that this is still happening. I realize that JB has become a pro at stalling but now he has Cindy's trained attorney doing it now. What the heck is next. (shaking head drastically)

I think Judge Strickland continues to err on the side of caution, which benefits the town idiot, aka Jose Baez.

Sometimes it works to be the fool.

:rolleyes:

[saywhat04]

ITA but, but, butt she was also dealing with her RPD don't forget :wink:

Sly

~

Hiya, Sly!

I'll have to amend that, I think. She DID have Repulsive Personality Disorder. She's now bordering on Raging Repulsive Personality Disorder (RRPD).

:cursing:

[Katprint]

I'm glad you put that disclaimer at the end there :scared:

Seriously, thanks Kat. I didn't hear about little Sandra's autopsy. That poor child, but I guess that goes without saying.

Thanks for the explanation, Kat. It's always appreciated.
:thumbup:
Sandra Cantu's autopsy report was not released, but the new, unrelated criminal charge of "rape with a foreign object" was added to the murder charges against Melissa Huckabee after the autopsy was performed so it is not that difficult to figure out what some of the unreleased autopsy report's findings must have been.

In Casey Anthony's case, the Death Penalty was added to the First Degree Murder charges but there are many possible circumstances that could support seeking the Death Penalty.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Lavinia]

Oh your hair is perfect ! We're just over here dancing -

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ElaineBeniseDancingSeinfeld.gif

LOLOLOL! And that is EXACTLY how I dance, lol.

Everyone got their pizza numbers and crockpots fired up?

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19727604/detail.html

Here is the link to the action motion that Conway filed....

[iluvmua]

:cursing: George and Cindy should be banned from Casey's trial

[saywhat04]

Am I off base in thinking Conway sure knows how to work the system. Perhaps intentionally omit serving the "media" (it's pretty obvious) knowing there will be a delay? Then on the day of the hearing, uh, maybe hurt his back again or come down with acid reflux?

It could be months before this is heard. How many times does Judge Strickland get played?

Yep. I have to agree with you here. Except it was the civil court judge who got played last time. This time is Strickland. Plus I feel like Baez is playing Strickland as well.

Why is it in a state with Sunshine Laws, any old Tom, Dick or Cindy can hose up the release of discovery on an f***ing whim, and it's weeks or months later before a court date is set to hear the idiotic motion?

Okay, I'm officially grumpy. :mad:

[Lavinia]

:cursing: George and Cindy should be banned from Casey's trial

Uh Uh!!!! And deprive us of all that entertainment? Hush your mouth! :laugh:

[legalmania]

And once again a motion is filed incorrectly. It was only filed to the state attorney's office and not to the media. Seems BC is no smarter than JB

Alert Alert being exposed to Jose Baez may cause idioicy, mental block, or loss of body function. It has been reported that people exposed to Baez have become in almost a vegetative state. If you have been exposed to Baez and are having memory problems start reading you still may be able to save a few brain cells.

[Pam1569]

I think Judge Strickland continues to err on the side of caution, which benefits the town idiot, aka Jose Baez.

Sometimes it works to be the fool.

:rolleyes:

Tuna, I guess Strickland is being cautious with the TI, but I somehow can't blame him with all the great motions that TI has put before the court already. I certainly don't want any grounds for anything after she is convicted.
I still don't get why BC would be allowed to put a motion in a case that he isn't even an attorney on. Kat if you can answer this for me I would be grateful. TIA

[Lavinia]

Yep. I have to agree with you here. Except it was the civil court judge who got played last time. This time is Strickland. Plus I feel like Baez is playing Strickland as well.

Why is it in a state with Sunshine Laws, any old Tom, Dick or Cindy can hose up the release of discovery on an f***ing whim, and it's weeks or months later before a court date is set to hear the idiotic motion?

Okay, I'm officially grumpy. :mad:

I'll get your meds and a cool washcloth dear. :wub:

[bchand]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19727604/detail.html

Here is the link to the action motion that Conway filed....

ohhhhhhh BC used the word "remains."

George is gonna be mad.

[marshmallow]

And once again a motion is filed incorrectly. It was only filed to the state attorney's office and not to the media. Seems BC is no smarter than JB


I think he's exactly as smart a Baez. Reminds me of a friend who would "forget" to sign her checks when she sent them out. She'd try to buy time and claim that she forgot but she did it on purpose.

Conway did it this way on purpose,he didn't forget who to send it to or who to notify. He did it to make things get held up until next week.
He's playing immature games with a court of law and I find it very disrespectful to our legal system..

I'd like to hear from our legal crew about this. What're your thoughts.

[saywhat04]

I'll get your meds and a cool washcloth dear. :wub:

Thanks for the offer, sweetpea, but meds and a cloth won't cut it. I feel some seriously Ugly Coping coming on. :cursing:

[Lavinia]

Thanks for the offer, sweetpea, but meds and a cloth won't cut it. I feel some seriously Ugly Coping coming on. :cursing:

Dang, I'll get an IV started STAT! :scared:

[MiamiNice1]

Hi Miami, ITA The A's, imo still believe that THEY are in charge and I believe that the judge needs to set them straight as to how the law works not how things may work in the House of Anthony. No one cares. All we want is justice for this precious baby who their murdering daughter took the life out of to get back at her mother imo as always
I cannot stand manipulators and am waiting to see the As get some comeuppance for all their bad behavior!

:seeya: Nice to see you posting again, nana!

[Lavinia]

ohhhhhhh BC used the word "remains."

George is gonna be mad.

Maybe Cindy will forget to tell him he's supposed to this time. :laugh:

[Sun]

6/11/2009 Notice of Hearing

Just entered on the Clerk of Courts records for the Civil Case. I don't yet see a court date for this, but am wondering if Mitnik finally got a new court date! If so, I'm dancing the happy dance!

[bchand]

Checked Jane Velez-Mitchell but she's talking about the other case where the 3 yr old is missing with her mother and the sex offender.


I noticed they're going to rerun the JVM show at 9 pm until Joy Behar gets her own show on HLN in the fall.

So we'll have JVM at 7, Nancy Grace at 8, JVM at 9 and Nancy again at 10.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/default.asp?ver=full

[summer]

Yep. I have to agree with you here. Except it was the civil court judge who got played last time. This time is Strickland. Plus I feel like Baez is playing Strickland as well.

Why is it in a state with Sunshine Laws, any old Tom, Dick or Cindy can hose up the release of discovery on an f***ing whim, and it's weeks or months later before a court date is set to hear the idiotic motion?

Okay, I'm officially grumpy. :mad:

Yeah, IMO it's complete b.s.

But I guess the judge can't conjecture -- (just like Rodriguez had to take Conway's back pain b.s. on face value even though I doubt he fell off a turnip truck yesterday).

But what can ya do?

I just wonder, overall, how many times this can happen? Probably a lot. :angry:

I'm only still interested in this case because I despise the Anthonys. From that first Greta interview when Cindy said if there were any hard questions Greta would be responsible for her passing out or something like that -- I was astounded, repulsed, fascinated, hooked.

I dislike the parents more than the perp. WEIRD.

[really3997]

Well Carp....I have a thing tomorrow after work....off to catch up on reading...you guys really need to stop talking during the day..JMO, wants and needs

[TunaMelt]

ohhhhhhh BC used the word "remains."

George is gonna be mad.

...and he'll make that funny mouth-face, where his mouth goes in a straight line and he looks like a cartoon character.
:rolleyes:

When he does that, I get grumpy.
Really grumpy.

:cursing:

[bchand]

Well Carp....I have a thing tomorrow after work....off to catch up on reading...you guys really need to stop talking during the day..JMO, wants and needs

Well what's more important? The thing or the new doc cump? lol

btw, - any new crosses by Lois show up yet?

[GumShoeJoe]

(snip)

And if all docs were to be sealed because they cause anguish, why don't they just rewrite the Sunshine Laws to say something to the effect that:

From here on out, no information will be released to the public if it hurts somebuddy's feelings. :rolleyes:
:wink:

Yeah, that about sums it up for the way these motions go with the Anthony's.

EXCEPT: I don't believe it is because they would feel great anguish. Really, how much worse can it get? I think it is because they insist on being important to this whole process.

So, how about: No criminal investigation information is to be made available to The People of Florida unless Cindy Anthony says it is OK.

Because, after all, she is the only one with any rights in all of this.
:rolleyes:

[bchand]

...and he'll make that funny mouth-face, where his mouth goes in a straight line and he looks like a cartoon character.
:rolleyes:

When he does that, I get grumpy.
Really grumpy.

:cursing:

Oh he has the opposite effect on me when he trys to act all manly.

I just LOL.

[GumShoeJoe]

I'm gonna start faxing the media case law. They got this one. Come on you lawyers put in your emergency motions you want the public to read your stuff, you gotta give a little.


Awww, comeon, go file a motion on behalf of all of us!

[TunaMelt]

Checked Jane Velez-Mitchell but she's talking about the other case where the 3 yr old is missing with her mother and the sex offender.


I noticed they're going to rerun the JVM show at 9 pm until Joy Behar gets her own show on HLN in the fall.

So we'll have JVM at 7, Nancy Grace at 8, JVM at 9 and Nancy again at 10.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/default.asp?ver=full

:scared:

And then we're supposed to sleep?!!
JVM continues to break the sound barrier with her voice, and Nancy G. just scares me lately, I think she bites, and I don't want to watch her in bed in a dark room.

:scared:

:wink:

[saywhat04]

I dislike the parents more than the perp. WEIRD.

<snipped to address>

Ditto. :mad:

[saywhat04]

:scared:

And then we're supposed to sleep?!!
JVM continues to break the sound barrier with her voice, and Nancy G. just scares me lately, I think she bites, and I don't want to watch her in bed in a dark room.

:scared:

:wink:

I'm not sure what's worse at 9 though ... JVM round 2, or Behar. I don't find her nearly as amusing as she finds herself.

[Chardonnay]

Well Carp....I have a thing tomorrow after work....off to catch up on reading...you guys really need to stop talking during the day..JMO, wants and needs

You need to put your priorities in order! :laugh: How are things looking on Hope Spring?

[TunaMelt]

I'm not sure what's worse at 9 though ... JVM round 2, or Behar. I don't find her nearly as amusing as she finds herself.

I just heard about Behar's show today.


She can't get enough of herself, you are krect.

I'm not, ever, never-ever, going to watch it.
:thumbdown:

[Chardonnay]

I'm not sure what's worse at 9 though ... JVM round 2, or Behar. I don't find her nearly as amusing as she finds herself.

Will Behar's show be like NG's or JVM's?

[really3997]

Well what's more important? The thing or the new doc cump? lol

btw, - any new crosses by Lois show up yet?

Well I put these people off before so I must attend, and I guess they won't appreciate if I take my dinner plate to theRe computer soooooo I guess I will have to go to the thing...

kNOw new crosses and I have been watching. I was told there was a limo in front of the queens house so she must not have anguish just yet, maybe toOmorrow (do you like my grammer I have been taking the A's grammer course don't no weather eye will pass)

[GumShoeJoe]

ohhhhhhh BC used the word "remains."

George is gonna be mad.

And get really outraged: "SIR, I would appreciate it SIR, if you didn't use those words around me SIR. Brad, I am getting ready to walk out right now."

That whole exchange annoyed me to no end, can you tell? And now his lawyer uses the same language? The outrage isn't real outrage, imo, it is just posturing.

One of these days they are going to run into a lawyer with a shorter fuse than they have found so far.

[Pruddennce]

Hi Pam, I think that's already been linked here. Delay tactics, as usual, by Conway on behalf of Baez.

:rolleyes::thumbdown:

I dont understand Tuna: Baez didnt file a motion, just Conway on behalf of the unemployed lying Anthonys?

does not compute.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[desmom]

I see the A's got a temporary stay on the release of the autopsy reports.

From Judge Strickland's order: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19728765/detail.html

For reasons unknown to the Court the motion was served only upon the State Attorney's Office. The real party of interest in this matter is the various news media.

Pending formal notice to the media, including the Orlando Sentinel, this Court will enter a temporary stay of the autopsy reports and findings set to be released....

IIRC, in the last motion hearing re the 12/11 jail video held on 5/28, Judge Strickland said he could hear the media's motions the following week, but LKB and Lyon said they would not be available until after 6/22.

IMO, the attorneys for the "media including the Orlando Sentinel" was all over this as soon as they became aware of BC's motion. Hopefully Judge Strickland's calendar will allow this to be heard quickly.

[bchand]

And get really outraged: "SIR, I would appreciate it SIR, if you didn't use those words around me SIR. Brad, I am getting ready to walk out right now."

That whole exchange annoyed me to no end, can you tell? And now his lawyer uses the same language? The outrage isn't real outrage, imo, it is just posturing.

One of these days they are going to run into a lawyer with a shorter fuse than they have found so far.

Don't forget the "how DARRRRREEEE you?"

[norwood]

I think he's exactly as smart a Baez. Reminds me of a friend who would "forget" to sign her checks when she sent them out. She'd try to buy time and claim that she forgot but she did it on purpose.

Conway did it this way on purpose,he didn't forget who to send it to or who to notify. He did it to make things get held up until next week.
He's playing immature games with a court of law and I find it very disrespectful to our legal system..

I'd like to hear from our legal crew about this. What're your thoughts.

I should have noted my sarcasm over his "mistake". I meant he did it on purpose to stall.

[GumShoeJoe]

Don't forget the "how DARRRRREEEE you?"


,SIR!!!!

Yes, thanks for updating, lol.

[Chardonnay]

ohhhhhhh BC used the word "remains."

George is gonna be mad.

Good thing Brad doesn't wear glasses! :tonguewag:

[saywhat04]

Will Behar's show be like NG's or JVM's?

Doesn't sound like it. Here's a link: http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=413974

[legalmania]

Aww, come on, go file a motion on behalf of all of us!

Well I can't file a motion but I can fill a room with case law. Under the cruelty to humans act there is more of us we rule. Right? We want to read what happend to Caylee.

[Postergeist]

There may be a difference between the autopsy report and the autopsy photo's...personally I would prefer not to see the pictures...but think he should release the written report.

I would think the report would contain info in regards to insect and animal activity on the remains, and like Pru mentioned, items/articles found with the remains, etc. While it wouldn't be visually graphic like photos are- reading it could still be chilling.

I think it should be released as well- if only to show that it's not pretty-won't make great one liners for Casey's my space.

My internet speculation is that the Anthonys were hoping to use this report for some sort of PPV they'd be shopping around, under the guise that the money would help go to their foundation or to buy a new rudder or some such whim if folks clicked on the pay link to view the autopsy report from their own "authorized site".

imo

[really3997]

I swear everyone stops posting when I get on:cuss:

[101Spots]

Doesn't sound like it. Here's a link: http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=413974

Thanks, but no thanks. I cannot watch three eardrum-blowing, screeching women in a row.

Come to think of it, I can't even watch one.

[Chardonnay]

Doesn't sound like it. Here's a link: http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=413974

Thanks Say !!

[Pruddennce]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19727604/detail.html

Here is the link to the action motion that Conway filed....

thanks Sun. so Casey signed over her rights to her REMAINS but yet had the audacity to make a public statement thru Baez about what they did with Caylee's remains.

GMAB.

what is wrong with this motion? IMO they are riding high on a POA which they already exercised their right to do what they wanted with her remains. which is a done deal now. the cirucus came to town and left.

its over.

they had no authority to voice an opinion about having an autopsy performed, yet he writes his motion as if THEY gave the state permission to investigate her death by performing an autopsy.

anguish over an autopsy report? they had an opportunity to see her remains. did they skip that part of the grieving process, and simply ship her off to be encased in death bracelets?

they wont be able to avoid 'hearing' about it? get off of the net and stop watching the TH's...and here is a novel ideal: GET REAL JOBS.

can someone answer this: are they automatically entitled to a copy of it in conjunction with their POA? is that something easily accomplished without legal intervention.....considering this is a murder one case, with a defendant awaiting trial?

??

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[TunaMelt]

I dont understand Tuna: Baez didnt file a motion, just Conway on behalf of the unemployed lying Anthonys?

does not compute.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

I'm saying I think the motion was filed to benefit the defense case. I think the two of them, Conway and Baez, are operating in tandem, in cahoots if you will -- because I don't believe for a minute that the Anthonys will be anguished over the release of the report.

I think however that it's possible if not likely that Baez' case will benefit by the delay. Casey will benefit, that is.

And since Everyone's Goal is to Save KC Anthony's butt, Conway helps our "young Hispanic attorney" out whenever possible.

Like this motion which causes another delay. I don't know why Baez wants a delay, I have my ideas, but he wants most things kept out of public release, and Conway's motion on behalf of the Anthony Duo accomplished this for Baez.

Probably Baez didn't want to be the one to file another motion asking for more evidence to be sealed because he's already got that tape in question, and that's causing lots of speculation. He doesn't need more speculation.

So Conway deflects the attention to himself and those Anthony people.

:confused:

[Sun]

I swear everyone stops posting when I get on:cuss:

Have you caught up on all today's chatting yet? I missed a bit of it early on, as I had errands to run.

[Lavinia]

Well I put these people off before so I must attend, and I guess they won't appreciate if I take my dinner plate to theRe computer soooooo I guess I will have to go to the thing...

kNOw new crosses and I have been watching. I was told there was a limo in front of the queens house so she must not have anguish just yet, maybe toOmorrow (do you like my grammer I have been taking the A's grammer course don't no weather eye will pass)

U dun reel gud hun! :thumbsup:

[legalmania]

There may be a difference between the autopsy report and the autopsy photo's...personally I would prefer not to see the pictures...but think he should release the written report.

Don't get me started my dear Rapunzel with the golden hair. The defense wants the DP off of the board, so give her 1st degree she can rot in jail instead of in the ground. Isn't that why we have juries? Casey could have gotten away with very little time but she chose to not talk. Their client put them where they are.

[Lavinia]

I swear everyone stops posting when I get on<STOLE YOUR CUSS>

No we wait till 101Spots gets on to leave.












:laugh::laugh: Spots, you know we love you to pieces! :wub:

[saywhat04]

No we wait till 101Spots gets on to leave.

:laugh: Spots, you know we love you to pieces! :wub:

spotty is having, um, visions. :scared:

[really3997]

O/T but if anyone is watching JVM don't you think it is poor taste she is making fun of celebrity alcoholics mug shots..yuking it up an laughing..Isn't she a recovering alcoholic

[Lavinia]

spotty is having, um, visions. :scared:

Poor Spotster. She's one of my "special" kids. :laugh: :wub:

[Lavinia]

O/T but if anyone is watching JVM don't you think it is poor taste she is making fun of celebrity alcoholics mug shots..yuking it up an laughing..Isn't she a recovering alcoholic

Yeah, but I have a lot of disability symptoms and stuff and I can still see the humor in it. 'Course I have a mean streak a mile wide, lol.

[summer4meplz]

I am SICK SICK SICK of the anthonys getting their way.......:cursing:

[bchand]

O/T but if anyone is watching JVM don't you think it is poor taste she is making fun of celebrity alcoholics mug shots..yuking it up an laughing..Isn't she a recovering alcoholic

So I've read.

[Pruddennce]

I'm saying I think the motion was filed to benefit the defense case. I think the two of them, Conway and Baez, are operating in tandem, in cahoots if you will -- because I don't believe for a minute that the Anthonys will be anguished over the release of the report.

I think however that it's possible if not likely that Baez' case will benefit by the delay. Casey will benefit, that is.

And since Everyone's Goal is to Save KC Anthony's butt, Conway helps our "young Hispanic attorney" out whenever possible.

Like this motion which causes another delay. I don't know why Baez wants a delay, I have my ideas, but he wants most things kept out of public release, and Conway's motion on behalf of the Anthony Duo accomplished this for Baez.

Probably Baez didn't want to be the one to file another motion asking for more evidence to be sealed because he's already got that tape in question, and that's causing lots of speculation. He doesn't need more speculation.

So Conway deflects the attention to himself and those Anthony people.

:confused:

thank you. that is what I was asking: Baez did not file a motion.

which I would think he WOULD...but I guess he couldnt come up with the anguish angle since Casey A doesnt have access to the internet, for starters :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[desmom]

Hal Boedeker gives a summary of the reports from WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing, WFTV-Channel 9's Bob Opsahl and WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest.

Casey Anthony: Autopsy findings won't be released tomorrow
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-autopsy-findings-wont-be-released-tomorrow.html

Following a written response to the motion by interested media the Court will either rule on the pleadings or set a hearing as necessary.

[Sun]

"Is Tot-Mom scheming to set up an insanity defense from behind bars?" says Nancy Grace a few seconds ago.

chuckles, I'm going to have to listen to her tonight. Just have to love Nancy Grace!

[bchand]

Oh boy, I hope Joe isn't watching Nancy Grace.

George is saying How DAAAAREEE you!

[Sun]

Oh boy, I hope Joe isn't watching Nancy Grace.

George is saying How DAAAAREEE you!

chuckles... I imagine that George and Cindy hate Nancy Grace, yet watch all her shows.

[Chardonnay]

O/T but if anyone is watching JVM don't you think it is poor taste she is making fun of celebrity alcoholics mug shots..yuking it up an laughing..Isn't she a recovering alcoholic

Yes! But I forgot that she is recovering.. Very poor taste..I hope someone brings that to her attention..

NG is covering KC tonight.. Bombshell, of course.

[AMS]

"Is Tot-Mom scheming to set up an insanity defense from behind bars?" says Nancy Grace a few seconds ago.

chuckles, I'm going to have to listen to her tonight. Just have to love Nancy Grace!

Can't wait to hear this story. NG said the OC has been screaming and having nightmares.....according to reports. :w00t:


imo

[bchand]

chuckles... I imagine that George and Cindy hate Nancy Grace, yet watch all her shows.

Sure they do plus keeping up with all the blogs.

[sunstar]

"Is Tot-Mom scheming to set up an insanity defense from behind bars?" says Nancy Grace a few seconds ago.

chuckles, I'm going to have to listen to her tonight. Just have to love Nancy Grace!

Hi! I heard that and I'm waiting to hear what this "bombshell" is! Casey having nightmares? It's about time, if you ask me! :scared: MOO

[enigma™]

Can't wait to hear this story. NG said the OC has been screaming and having nightmares.....according to reports. :w00t:

imo

Good, that wench does not deserve a moments peace, let alone a restful night of sleep.

[Lavinia]

Can't wait to hear this story. NG said the OC has been screaming and having nightmares.....according to reports. :w00t:


imo

She's not going to be able to fake this out, IMO. If she goes the crazy route now, it will be for pure entertainment value, because that ship done sailed.

[Sun]

George and Cindy may likely have a media appearance scheduled in the upcoming days, around the anniversary of Caylee's death. And they will call it an exclusive. I'll be surprised if they don't.

[Sandy001]

And get really outraged: "SIR, I would appreciate it SIR, if you didn't use those words around me SIR. Brad, I am getting ready to walk out right now."

That whole exchange annoyed me to no end, can you tell? And now his lawyer uses the same language? The outrage isn't real outrage, imo, it is just posturing.

One of these days they are going to run into a lawyer with a shorter fuse than they have found so far. Remains is the CORRECT term and I hope they use it over and over adn over again in the trial until George throws a hissy fit and walks out.

Pam Bondi and Mark Eiglarsh both agree that autopsy reports are rarely sealed so we will have to see if the Judge does some homework. I find it extremely rare with a Prosecutor AND a defense attorney agree on something on the shows. They both agreed - autopsy reports are an integral part of a murder trial and they are also part of the Sunshine Law. I'd say the Anthonys are trying to rewrite law ONCE AGAIN.

[Sandy001]

There may be a difference between the autopsy report and the autopsy photo's...personally I would prefer not to see the pictures...but think he should release the written report.
Autopsy photos have already been sealed. I have to assuem that G&C dont' want to kniow that Caylee is dead still.

[Sun]

She's not going to be able to fake this out, IMO. If she goes the crazy route now, it will be for pure entertainment value, because that ship done sailed.

I can only hope that other inmates are doing the screaming AT Casey, not letting her forget her crime. Not letting her forget what she did.

[bchand]

George and Cindy may likely have a media appearance scheduled in the upcoming days, around the anniversary of Caylee's death. And they will call it an exclusive. I'll be surprised if they don't.

I agree Sun, especially since really was told there was a limo in front of their house.

They'll show up BUT most of us believe Caylee died on June 16th so we'll see when they show their faces. After all, they spent months saying she was alive and sighted and the kidnappers were being watched.

[Sun]

I agree Sun, especially since really was told there was a limo in front of their house.

They'll show up BUT most of us believe Caylee died on June 16th so we'll see when they show their faces. After all, they spent months saying she was alive and sighted and the kidnappers were being watched.

There is one vehicle that I would like to see in front of their house.... and it's got flashing lights on it. LOL

[101Spots]

No we wait till 101Spots gets on to leave.



:crying:...............



Somebody is going to pay. Sooner or later......

[seeing_eye]

George and Cindy may likely have a media appearance scheduled in the upcoming days, around the anniversary of Caylee's death. And they will call it an exclusive. I'll be surprised if they don't.

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

[101Spots]

spotty is having, um, visions. :scared:

Two words: Marie Laveau. She's on my speed dial. :sneaky:

[runnnempty]

She's not going to be able to fake this out, IMO. If she goes the crazy route now, it will be for pure entertainment value, because that ship done sailed.

I think it might be from a National Enquirer story.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

[Sandy001]

Good, that wench does not deserve a moments peace, let alone a restful night of sleep. I hope she is screaming and disturbing her pod and they toss her in the drunk tank which is what they do here with screamers and disruptive inmates.

[BobbysGirl]

thank you. that is what I was asking: Baez did not file a motion.

which I would think he WOULD...but I guess he couldnt come up with the anguish angle since Casey A doesnt have access to the internet, for starters :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Back online. Right no access to internet.

Since when has Casey showed anguish?
The only anguish I see G&C have is over
how they appear to others. They have done all they can/could to discard Caylee as if she never existed. I do not understand their disregard for their grand daughter. What could they gain by trying to stop the release of autopsy? The jury will see all photos and read. Who are they trying to save face for? Grrrrrrrrrrr. This is total BS. Sorry for rant.

IMO, I think they care about them selves.
BG

[saywhat04]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

I'm sure they were hoping not to publicly remember Caylee at all, but now that mere strangers (maggots, leeches, parasites) will be holding a memorial of some kind (rumor has it), the Anthonys will be forced once again to <sigh> publicly recognize their dead granddaughter. Such a damn burden on the grieving, anguished gp's. :mad:

[Sun]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

Yes, that is also a possibility. However, I still believe that they have media obligations to fullfill (from a yet undisclosed contract). JMO though, and I could easily be wrong.

[really3997]

:crying:...............



Somebody is going to pay. Sooner or later......

I know I know, do you have anyone to comfort you

[sunstar]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

I think you're right ~ the 16th will be just another day. If they were to commemorate it in any way they'd be acknowledging the DA is right and Caylee died in June and that's opposite of what the defense is going to theorize at the trial. MOO

[Lavinia]

I can only hope that other inmates are doing the screaming AT Casey, not letting her forget her crime. Not letting her forget what she did.

County jails have a much higher transient, turnover rate than state and federal prisons, and I can't speak much about jails, but in state, the prevailing attitudes in her pod will be dependent on whatever the alpha females opinions are of her. They can make her or break her. That's why I always say a lot of her experience will be due to luck, for lack of a better term. Prisons are just like a huge hierarchy of an extremely dysfunctional family. It's gonna depend on who her "Mom" and "Dad" are like in prison and the prevailing attitudes and behaviors that are formed by those prisoners who mold the personality of the group to a great extent. It WON'T be the Cleavers, lol.

[101Spots]

Hal Boedeker gives a summary of the reports from WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing, WFTV-Channel 9's Bob Opsahl and WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest.

Casey Anthony: Autopsy findings won't be released tomorrow
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-autopsy-findings-wont-be-released-tomorrow.html

Following a written response to the motion by interested media the Court will either rule on the pleadings or set a hearing as necessary.

From your link:

Kealing said that at 6 he would have details about new information in the autopsy. "We have a couple of elements from that report," Kealing said.

Did anyone see the 6 o'clock news?

[bchand]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

Maybe not but the way they work is they show up to try and distract from something else.

There is a memorial that will be held on June 16th at Blanchard Park given by some people on facebook or myspace and so far they have said Rev Grund will be a speaker.

They will do something to try and distract from that IMO.

[really3997]

There is one vehicle that I would like to see in front of their house.... and it's got flashing lights on it. LOL

I don't think Dennis lives there anymore

[Sun]

I think it might be from a National Enquirer story.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

Good find!!!!!

“Casey has been acting very oddly — she will go days without talking to anyone, or doing anything but sit in her cell, reading law books,” disclosed the source. “Then she will suddenly become very active and agitated — chattering to guards, doing sit-ups, push-ups and jumping jacks in her cell and dancing to music on her small radio."

[AMS]

I think it might be from a National Enquirer story.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

The National Enquirer seems to be one of NG's favorite sources lately....:rolleyes:

imo

[sunstar]

I think it might be from a National Enquirer story.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

OMG ~ you've got to be kidding! Nancy's going to report on this? :rolleyes: Thanks for the heads up though since she still hasn't started talking about Casey yet.

[Lavinia]

:crying:...............



Somebody is going to pay. Sooner or later......

Put it on my tab. :laugh:

I love you Spots! :wub:

[Sun]

I don't think Dennis lives there anymore

LOL ....and here I thought that Dennie was playing at being their new bodyguard.

[really3997]

Good find!!!!!

“Casey has been acting very oddly — she will go days without talking to anyone, or doing anything but sit in her cell, reading law books,” disclosed the source. “Then she will suddenly become very active and agitated — chattering to guards, doing sit-ups, push-ups and jumping jacks in her cell and dancing to music on her small radio."

Now that just cracks me up where is the dancing elaine

[101Spots]

There is one vehicle that I would like to see in front of their house.... and it's got flashing lights on it. LOL

Milstead's faux cruiser?

[bchand]

Good find!!!!!

“Casey has been acting very oddly — she will go days without talking to anyone, or doing anything but sit in her cell, reading law books,” disclosed the source. “Then she will suddenly become very active and agitated — chattering to guards, doing sit-ups, push-ups and jumping jacks in her cell and dancing to music on her small radio."

Trying for the bi-polar look?

I don't put much stock in unnamed sources though.

[bchand]

Now that just cracks me up where is the dancing elaine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ElaineBeniseDancingSeinfeld.gif

[Sun]

The National Enquirer seems to be one of NG's favorite sources lately....:rolleyes:

imo

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

Baez is going to be whining again. LOL

[really3997]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ElaineBeniseDancingSeinfeld.gif

:lol::lol::lol:

[summer]

Defense Exhibit I -

"And your honor, the perp was dancing to the radio in her cell!

Judge S: "OMFG. That's crazy. Case dismissed!"

[summer4meplz]

George and Cindy may likely have a media appearance scheduled in the upcoming days, around the anniversary of Caylee's death. And they will call it an exclusive. I'll be surprised if they don't.

who would have them? they've kinda "been there done that" haven't they?

it seems like no one is very interested in the "grieving grandparents" casey is innocent bs......

i still want to see milstead charged.....:cursing:

[legalmania]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think the A's have ever admitted publicly that they agree with the date of death as June 16th. Remember how they don't believe in "junk" science? So I don't believe they will commemorate the anniversary on that date. I think they intend to maintain that Caylee was not killed till after Casey was in jail and that Casey was set up or framed for the murder.

I thought I just read when the memorial was taken down that they plan on having a vigil on the 16th. Welcome to G and C's house for the mentally unstable.

[Lavinia]

I think it might be from a National Enquirer story.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_psychotic_nightmares/crime/63493

Thanks runnnnn.

PFFFFT on the NE story. It doesn't ring true at all. I promise you that an inmate screaming or yelling in the middle of the night wouldn't have correctional officers running to her. They're not there to hold her widdle hand, I assure you, lol.

[saywhat04]

Two words: Marie Laveau. She's on my speed dial. :sneaky:

I Googled. Seems she gets rid of men. Not M&M's. :laugh:

[101Spots]

I know I know, do you have anyone to comfort you

I have a blanket of warm kitties. *They* like me.

[really3997]

Thanks runnnnn.

PFFFFT on the NE story. It doesn't ring true at all. I promise you that an inmate screaming or yelling in the middle of the night wouldn't have correctional officers running to her. They're not there to hold her widdle hand, I assure you, lol.

“Once, when a guard woke her and told her she had been screaming, she said, ‘No I wasn’t,’ and went back to sleep.

So she even lies in her sleep go figure

[Sun]

who would have them? they've kinda "been there done that" haven't they?

it seems like no one is very interested in the "grieving grandparents" casey is innocent bs......

i still want to see milstead charged.....:cursing:

You are so right about that. I know that I am not interested one little bit in seeing them spout more lies and disrespect Justice for little Caylee.

[BobbysGirl]

Hi! I heard that and I'm waiting to hear what this "bombshell" is! Casey having nightmares? It's about time, if you ask me! :scared: MOO

I don't have NG on. Bombshell? Heck, her sitting in jail and not partying will cause her nightmares.
She lost her American Flag and blue dress. She is not insane.

She should be scared. It is a matter of time that she will lose it. IMO I think Casey will no longer be able to fool anyone, as if she thinks she can.

I really hope she cracks. With all the delays, delays, delays going on and Baez playing her. Well, there is so much one can take. IMO Fess up and tell the truth.

BG

[bchand]

Remember Gene...Gene the dancing machine from the Gong show....LOL...loved that show!!!! I can hear the music now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw

[summer4meplz]

I can only hope that other inmates are doing the screaming AT Casey, not letting her forget her crime. Not letting her forget what she did.

I've been surprised we haven't heard from anyone other than that 1 woman ....LE workers I understand, but other inmates are under no obligation to not talk......

I'm not surprised at all to hear she has nightmares......I guess she's human after all.......gawd it would suck to be her.....

[really3997]

I have a blanket of warm kitties. *They* like me.


AWE.. I like you..You go to your neutral place I'm sure you were just misconstrued.

[saywhat04]

The National Enquirer seems to be one of NG's favorite sources lately....:rolleyes:

imo

The last 3 *bombshells* have been NE-inspired, IIRC. :rolleyes:

[summer]

If it's true she's screaming and thrashing and acting erratically (oh my!) in her cell that dispels my theory that she's been on pretty heavy anti-depressant drugs. She just looks spaced in her court appearances and I've assumed she's had some "comfort" in that way, not having to feel too much because of the drugs.

Good. I want her to feel everything.

[seeing_eye]

Maybe not but the way they work is they show up to try and distract from something else.

There is a memorial that will be held on June 16th at Blanchard Park given by some people on facebook or myspace and so far they have said Rev Grund will be a speaker.

They will do something to try and distract from that IMO.

Yes, I believe you may be right.They will probably try to provide a distraction from the memorial.

[legalmania]

Good find!!!!!

“Casey has been acting very oddly — she will go days without talking to anyone, or doing anything but sit in her cell, reading law books,” disclosed the source. “Then she will suddenly become very active and agitated — chattering to guards, doing sit-ups, push-ups and jumping jacks in her cell and dancing to music on her small radio."

O.K I have the perfect song for Ms. Casey- ha ha

----------------
Now playing: Napoleon XIV - They're Coming to Take Me Away (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/napoleon_xiv/track/theyre_coming_to_take_me_away)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[101Spots]

I Googled. Seems she gets rid of men. Not M&M's. :laugh:

Or you can purchase a spell. :sneaky:

Spell (http://www.virtual-design.com/demos/voodoodoll/voodoo.asp?section=demo&subsection=voodoo)

I might name mine "Lavinia." Or not. Depends......

[seeing_eye]

OMG ~ you've got to be kidding! Nancy's going to report on this? :rolleyes: Thanks for the heads up though since she still hasn't started talking about Casey yet.

Anything from the NE I take with a whole box of salt! :w00t:

[AMS]

NG - playing old videos...

It is the National Enquirer NG is referencing. Blood-curdling screams coming from her cell. The Natl Enq has an unnamed source in the jail. Erratic behavior for TotMom.

According to the report the OC wants the trial moved to Miami so she can go straight to the beach and wrok on her tan once the trial is over.

imo

[summer]

Well, I should say she looks "blank" in court. Just stone-cold blank. Dead eyes. Feeling nothing. I thought it was the drugs. Guess it's just the perp.

[AMS]

Lennie saying the problem with the insanity defense is that the OC would have to admit she killed Casey and then say...she was insane...

imo

[101Spots]

AWE.. I like you..You go to your neutral place I'm sure you were just misconstrued.

:blushing:

[AMS]

One of the TH on Ng saying there is a statute in FL that prevents autopsy reports from public disclosure until the trial.

imo

[Lavinia]

“Once, when a guard woke her and told her she had been screaming, she said, ‘No I wasn’t,’ and went back to sleep.

So she even lies in her sleep go figure

In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess, lol.

[saywhat04]

Defense Exhibit I -

"And your honor, the perp was dancing to the radio in her cell!

Judge S: "OMFG. That's crazy. Case dismissed!"

There it is. Our aha moment. :rolleyes:

[BobbysGirl]

Yes, I believe you may be right.They will probably try to provide a distraction from the memorial.

ITA Every time something comes up. The A's do whatever than can to extract and distract. For their benefit. IMO

[101Spots]

One of the TH on Ng saying there is a statute in FL that prevents autopsy reports from public disclosure until the trial.

imo

If that were true, I would think the prosecution would know that, and would not *dream* of releasing the report. Methinks this TH knoweth not of what he speaketh.

[Dick Tracy]

I don't have NG on. Bombshell? Heck, her sitting in jail and not partying will cause her nightmares.
She lost her American Flag and blue dress. She is not insane.

She should be scared. It is a matter of time that she will lose it. IMO I think Casey will no longer be able to fool anyone, as if she thinks she can.

I really hope she cracks. With all the delays, delays, delays going on and Baez playing her. Well, there is so much one can take. IMO Fess up and tell the truth.

BG

She should be terrified. Beyond terrified. She picked the wrong state to murder her child. They like the DP down in Florida. One way or another, she's going to die in prison. Her little game of stealing from friends, her mom and dad, other relatives, Caylee's piggybank, sleeping with umpteen guys, and being a party girl is over. For Casey Anthony, this is crunch time, and she realizes it's all caught up to her. And it's going to kill her.

[AMS]

If that were true, I would think the prosecution would know that, and would not *dream* of releasing the report. Methinks this TH knoweth not of what he speaketh.

YESeth - I thought it was hinky too.

[summer4meplz]

OMG ~ you've got to be kidding! Nancy's going to report on this? :rolleyes: Thanks for the heads up though since she still hasn't started talking about Casey yet.

nancy hates the anthonys....i love the clips she shows where cindy and george are at their worst....

[Lavinia]

The last 3 *bombshells* have been NE-inspired, IIRC. :rolleyes:

Yanno, the NE got some really good dirt on some trials and stuff for a bit, like OJ's. It seems they have some stories that they are pretty good on and then the rest really SUCK.

[bchand]

One of the TH on Ng saying there is a statute in FL that prevents autopsy reports from public disclosure until the trial.

imo

If that were true I don't think a motion would have to be filed to prevent it from being disclosed. Doesn't make sense.

[summer]

Leenie saying the problem with the insanity defense is that the OC would have to admit she killed Casey and then say...she was insane...

imo

EXACTLY!

Maybe AL is turning her around to the seriousness of her situation.

Let's see what she looks like in her next court appearance.

Maybe she'll show up with her hair in corn-rows -- dancing into the courtroom to the defense table with her radio blasting.

Insanity plea here we come.

[saywhat04]

Or you can purchase a spell. :sneaky:

Spell (http://www.virtual-design.com/demos/voodoodoll/voodoo.asp?section=demo&subsection=voodoo)

I might name mine "Lavinia." Or not. Depends......

Oooh. I think "Lavinia" is quite a nice name for a spell. :smile:

[bchand]

nancy hates the anthonys....i love the clips she shows where cindy and george are at their worst....

I agree summer and I LOVE the way she showed the clips and made absolutely no comments.

The clips speak for themselves.

[legalmania]

One of the TH on Ng saying there is a statute in FL that prevents autopsy reports from public disclosure until the trial.

imo

Well I have the rules of evidence right here. I will see.

[summer4meplz]

Defense Exhibit I -

"And your honor, the perp was dancing to the radio in her cell!

Judge S: "OMFG. That's crazy. Case dismissed!"

and casey and jose stroll hand in hand along the miami beach

[summer]

nancy hates the anthonys....i love the clips she shows where cindy and george are at their worst....

It's so obvious. She doesn't say much but her choice of clips tells it all. :)

[Lavinia]

Or you can purchase a spell. :sneaky:

Spell (http://www.virtual-design.com/demos/voodoodoll/voodoo.asp?section=demo&subsection=voodoo)

I might name mine "Lavinia." Or not. Depends......

Oh No, You Di'int! :cursing: :tonguewag:

[GumShoeJoe]

If that were true I don't think a motion would have to be filed to prevent it from being disclosed. Doesn't make sense.

I think there is an exception for autopsy photos, not for the autopsy itself. (The Dale Earnhardt autopsy photo issue?)

[summer]

and casey and jose stroll hand in hand along the miami beach

... sipping Pina Coladas from Trader Vics... and their hair is purrfect!

[Lavinia]

Oooh. I think "Lavinia" is quite a nice name for a spell. :smile:

:cursing: You ladies are going to learn to respect me! :cursing:

ETA: I have to watch a Real Housewives special now. I'm sure I will be treated appropriately when I return. <scowl>

[saywhat04]

Well, I should say she looks "blank" in court. Just stone-cold blank. Dead eyes. Feeling nothing. I thought it was the drugs. Guess it's just the perp.

I don't think the perp feels anything ... at least not for anyone else. I think part of the stone-cold appearance is a practiced tough-chick look she's been sporting since she was bailed out, round 1.

It's quite mature, don't you think? Much like the Grinch grimaces her mother makes, and those odd eyebrow movements of G and Middle Finger.

[ttcRider]

I don't think Dennis lives there anymore

Maybe he wasn't paying his share of the rent or helping with the chores.. :laugh: