June 8, 9

[Unleashed]

New week, new thread.

[AMS]

Good morning from rainy Wisconsin. Thanks for the new thread.

[adair]

Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope everyone had a great weekend.

I wonder if any others will put up KC memorial crosses after finding out that g/c/misleds (not sure what thier name is) are pulling the memorials up.

I would proud and touched that if anyone did that for my family.

My Niece inlaw was murdered earlier in the year, this weekend a benefit for her 4 surviving children, I could not believe the community support............the donations of a blow up jump thing for the kids, we had a State Law Officer, and The local Law Enforcement give up their day by willing to be in the "dunk a cop"....asked people to bake, we ran out of tables for the baked goodies, asked companies to donate items to be raffled.... meat donated for roast beef sandwiches..I could go on and on. We miss her dearly.....I just cant explain how i felt to see these total strangers come together to help our family.

[AMS]

Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope everyone had a great weekend.

I wonder if any others will put up KC memorial crosses after finding out that g/c/misleds (not sure what thier name is) are pulling the memorials up.

I would proud and touched that if anyone did that for my family.

My Niece inlaw was murdered earlier in the year, this weekend a benefit for her 4 surviving children, I could not believe the community support............the donations of a blow up jump thing for the kids, we had a State Law Officer, and The local Law Enforcement give up their day by willing to be in the "dunk a cop"....asked people to bake, we ran out of tables for the baked goodies, asked companies to donate items to be raffled.... meat donated for roast beef sandwiches..I could go on and on. We miss her dearly.....I just cant explain how i felt to see these total strangers come together to help our family.

I am sorry about your loss. You story of community support is heart-warming. Thanks for sharing.

imo

[breezie]

So sorry for your loss, Adair. So glad her children have a wonderful community surrounding them with love and support. Nice to hear.

[adair]

Thank You Everyone.....

It would be like if i saw a Cross with Heathers Name on it and yanked it out of the ground.


I know that this probably has been discussed.....Those crosses did have anything saying that Caylee was murdered by her mother...etc.


I will never understand the A family. Never-Ever.

[adair]

So sorry for your loss, Adair. So glad her children have a wonderful community surrounding them with love and support. Nice to hear.


The Anthony's also HAD great community support.....but their actions... too many to even try to list...lets just say the lies for starters have hurt many good people. (name calling etc)

Try as they like Caylee will NOT BE FORGOTTEN. The community WILL keep her memory alive.

The actions of the A removing the memorial crosses are a slap in the face.

And I hope that the A and M are charged for something for the way they treated the ladies who were putting up the crosses.

[bchand]

Thank You Everyone.....

It would be like if i saw a Cross with Heathers Name on it and yanked it out of the ground.


I know that this probably has been discussed.....Those crosses did have anything saying that Caylee was murdered by her mother...etc.


I will never understand the A family. Never-Ever.

What a wonderful community reaction. I'm so sorry for the loss of Heather to your family.

The Ants would NOT appreciate the effort.

[iluvmua]

When does Casey have her pre- trial hearing?

[sammy62]

My mistake....Puerto Rico is an American possession....so she did not a passport. :wink:

[sammy62]

my sympathies on your loss of Heather too.

We had some people killed outside our small town about 5 years ago. There still is a memorial/cross where they died along the highway.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone.

Sorry for your loss, Adair. Sounds like a wonderful community for all they are doing to help your family in a time of need.

The Anthony's thumbed their noses at the community a long time ago. Maggots, parasites, and leeches, we are.

[EverMoth]

Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope everyone had a great weekend.

I wonder if any others will put up KC memorial crosses after finding out that g/c/misleds (not sure what thier name is) are pulling the memorials up.

I would proud and touched that if anyone did that for my family.

My Niece inlaw was murdered earlier in the year, this weekend a benefit for her 4 surviving children, I could not believe the community support............the donations of a blow up jump thing for the kids, we had a State Law Officer, and The local Law Enforcement give up their day by willing to be in the "dunk a cop"....asked people to bake, we ran out of tables for the baked goodies, asked companies to donate items to be raffled.... meat donated for roast beef sandwiches..I could go on and on. We miss her dearly.....I just cant explain how i felt to see these total strangers come together to help our family.

Morning all! Adair, thanks for sharing your story. I'm very sorry your family suffered such a tragedy and my heart goes out to those four precious children. Your example of community support is so heartening and served to remind me that there is much good in this world. Unfortunately most of what we hear on the news is bad. I would love to see a television news network devoted to positive, inspiring stories.

[Barbara fl.]

Thank You Everyone.....

It would be like if i saw a Cross with Heathers Name on it and yanked it out of the ground.


I know that this probably has been discussed.....Those crosses did have anything saying that Caylee was murdered by her mother...etc.


I will never understand the A family. Never-Ever.


I too am sorry for your loss....I agree with you that the Anthony's are showing more remorse against Caylee then grief.....it's like they are blaming her for what happened...

I too would feel honored if it were my family member and people were coming together....

The Anthony's are dispicable.....sad excuses for human beings.....

[Dick Tracy]

Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope everyone had a great weekend.

I wonder if any others will put up KC memorial crosses after finding out that g/c/misleds (not sure what thier name is) are pulling the memorials up.

I would proud and touched that if anyone did that for my family.

My Niece inlaw was murdered earlier in the year, this weekend a benefit for her 4 surviving children, I could not believe the community support............the donations of a blow up jump thing for the kids, we had a State Law Officer, and The local Law Enforcement give up their day by willing to be in the "dunk a cop"....asked people to bake, we ran out of tables for the baked goodies, asked companies to donate items to be raffled.... meat donated for roast beef sandwiches..I could go on and on. We miss her dearly.....I just cant explain how i felt to see these total strangers come together to help our family.


Adair,

Good Morning. It's hard to fathom that someone close to us can be taken away and murdered. My families sympathy goes out and we will pray for good things for the four children, and that justice will be served.

Your story truly shows that there a lot of good people out there that will take the time to show support. That's what Americana is all about. Good People your family didn't know coming together. It makes a difference.

[Barbara fl.]

The Anthony's also HAD great community support.....but their actions... too many to even try to list...lets just say the lies for starters have hurt many good people. (name calling etc)

Try as they like Caylee will NOT BE FORGOTTEN. The community WILL keep her memory alive.

The actions of the A removing the memorial crosses are a slap in the face.

And I hope that the A and M are charged for something for the way they treated the ladies who were putting up the crosses.


I heard they were ran off...They would not have run me off, I would have stood my ground and dared them to put a finger on me.....

The welcoming thought is that their heartache has just begun....they haven't a clue as to whats ahead of them....they will probably wish they could change places with Caylee by the time it's all over....(and so will Casey).....

[Barbara fl.]

The Anthony's also HAD great community support.....but their actions... too many to even try to list...lets just say the lies for starters have hurt many good people. (name calling etc)

Try as they like Caylee will NOT BE FORGOTTEN. The community WILL keep her memory alive.

The actions of the A removing the memorial crosses are a slap in the face.

And I hope that the A and M are charged for something for the way they treated the ladies who were putting up the crosses.

If I lived on their block I would set up a memorial on my lawn and dare them to come on my property....For some reason the Anthony's are so much against a memorial...I can not understand it....It's like they didn't want Caylee to have a decent burial...Heaven only knows what they did with her ashes....

This is a very sick family.....

[Barbara fl.]

When does Casey have her pre- trial hearing?


I didn't know there was such a thing as a pre trial hearing.....I thought they would just go right into trial...What would be the point? I hope it's not to see if she should stand trial.....

I want to get on with this trial asap.....I want to still be young enough to cheer when the guilty verdict comes in...:biggrin:

[EverMoth]

If I lived on their block I would set up a memorial on my lawn and dare them to come on my property....For some reason the Anthony's are so much against a memorial...I can not understand it....It's like they didn't want Caylee to have a decent burial...Heaven only knows what they did with her ashes....

This is a very sick family.....

I agree with you Barbara. Very sick indeed. I agree with your previous post where you said they were showing more remorse against Caylee then grief, like they were blaming her for what happened. I think this is so true. Likewise your comment about how they - including Casey - haven't a clue as to whats ahead of them and how, by the time all of this is over, they would probably wish they could change places with Caylee. I have no doubt that this will be true as well. I think the iron fist of justice is about to reign down upon the whole lot of them. jmo

[MorningGlory]

Good Morning. I have been out of town (and touch) for the past 5 days and wondered what the latest is here. Judging by the small # of posters signed on, I guess there isn't much new to discuss. What is the next offical date on the calendar for the OC? Any known doc dumps coming up? TIA.

[breezie]

I didn't know there was such a thing as a pre trial hearing.....I thought they would just go right into trial...What would be the point? I hope it's not to see if she should stand trial.....

I want to get on with this trial asap.....I want to still be young enough to cheer when the guilty verdict comes in...:biggrin:

from time to time they have what is called a status conference...to see where everyone is. Waiting for ole *I don't know the case yet* Lyons to file her incredible motion. She said we would understand all.

[sammy62]

If I lived on their block I would set up a memorial on my lawn and dare them to come on my property....For some reason the Anthony's are so much against a memorial...I can not understand it....It's like they didn't want Caylee to have a decent burial...Heaven only knows what they did with her ashes....

This is a very sick family.....

I've always wondered. Would there be very many ashes, when they only found some of the bones of a small child. Could all the ashes be in their jewelry and the teddy bear.

[Dick Tracy]

If I lived on their block I would set up a memorial on my lawn and dare them to come on my property....For some reason the Anthony's are so much against a memorial...I can not understand it....It's like they didn't want Caylee to have a decent burial...Heaven only knows what they did with her ashes....

This is a very sick family.....

Me too. Through this whole ordeal, the Anthony's have shown their true colors.

That KFN thing will fall on it's face. The Anthony's will someday regret the fact that they thumbed their nose at everyone trying to offer support.

[101Spots]

I didn't know there was such a thing as a pre trial hearing.....I thought they would just go right into trial...What would be the point? I hope it's not to see if she should stand trial.....

I want to get on with this trial asap.....I want to still be young enough to cheer when the guilty verdict comes in...:biggrin:

I want to be young and agile enough to *dance*!!

Oh, wait........

Shucks.

[desmom]

One year ago today......June 8, 2008

Casey and Caylee leave Ricardo’s apartment late morning after spending the night. Ricardo talked to Casey later in the day. She was at home. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: Not doing as good now. I totally broke down at work. That car was the only thing in my life that was mine. I have no home that is my own. I don’t even sleep in my own bed. My car was my thing.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:16 p.m.: Are you going to be ok?

Amy to Casey: I have to be. I have to work. I’m just going to have to do it.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:18 p.m.: Please call me if you need and talk. Definitely call me when you get off.

Amy to Casey: Will do. I'm closing now. . . But I should be done by 11. I’ll call on my walk home.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:20 p.m.: Sounds good love. Hang in there!

Casey to Amy 06/08 7:03 p.m.: You hanging in there?

Amy to Casey: Yeah. I got it together. I just needed to get out of cry mode.

Casey to Amy 06/08 7:05 p.m.: I'm so proud of you love!

Casey to Amy 06/08 10:03 p.m.: I'm heading to bed but message me when you get back to the boys house. I love you girl! Hugs.

Amy to Casey: We are home. The boys helped me close. They are great.

Casey to Amy 06/08 11:26 p.m.: Good! Take it easy hun.

Amy to Casey: Will do. Love you tons!

Casey to Amy 06/08 11:27 p.m.: Love you too! I’ll call you in the morning.

Amy to Casey: Looking forward to it.

[breezie]

desmom...

Do you know how long Amy and Casey had been friends at this point? I'm not that gooshy with my friends I've had 30 years.

[Explorer]

Thats why casey anthony gained Amys trust. She used all those endearing terms.

[Unleashed]

I want to be young and agile enough to *dance*!!

Oh, wait........

Shucks.

Yeah, me too, 101Spots.

Maybe we can just high 5 our canes. :laugh:

JMO

[desmom]

desmom...

Do you know how long Amy and Casey had been friends at this point? I'm not that gooshy with my friends I've had 30 years.

page 77 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080890/Casey-Anthony-Court-Documents-Part-3

Amy told LE she apparently met Casey in 2007 when Casey attended a party Amy had. Amy did not recall meeting her at the party. Amy left to work for a cruise ship for six months. When she returned, Casey "got pretty close with my group of friends" and she was dating one of Amy's temp roommates...IMO, Ricardo.

ETA ~ Ricardo told LE he met Casey at a party at Amy's house the first week of June 2007 and again at a party in January 2008 at Troy's house. Ricardo and Casey started dating in February 2008. page 2 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

[Dick Tracy]

One year ago today......June 8, 2008

Casey and Caylee leave Ricardo’s apartment late morning after spending the night. Ricardo talked to Casey later in the day. She was at home. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy to Casey: Not doing as good now. I totally broke down at work. That car was the only thing in my life that was mine. I have no home that is my own. I don’t even sleep in my own bed. My car was my thing.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:16 p.m.: Are you going to be ok?

Amy to Casey: I have to be. I have to work. I’m just going to have to do it.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:18 p.m.: Please call me if you need and talk. Definitely call me when you get off.

Amy to Casey: Will do. I'm closing now. . . But I should be done by 11. I’ll call on my walk home.

Casey to Amy 06/08 4:20 p.m.: Sounds good love. Hang in there!

Casey to Amy 06/08 7:03 p.m.: You hanging in there?

Amy to Casey: Yeah. I got it together. I just needed to get out of cry mode.

Casey to Amy 06/08 7:05 p.m.: I'm so proud of you love!

Casey to Amy 06/08 10:03 p.m.: I'm heading to bed but message me when you get back to the boys house. I love you girl! Hugs.

Amy to Casey: We are home. The boys helped me close. They are great.

Casey to Amy 06/08 11:26 p.m.: Good! Take it easy hun.

Amy to Casey: Will do. Love you tons!

Casey to Amy 06/08 11:27 p.m.: Love you too! I’ll call you in the morning.

Amy to Casey: Looking forward to it.


Hi Desmom -

This conversation shows me that at least Amy realized that she had to pull it together, and keep a job. You'd think that the PRP (pork rind princess) would have had some of Amy's initiative rub off on her. But No. The prp was probably thinking of who she was going to rip off, and how.

[MrsHudson]

desmom...

Do you know how long Amy and Casey had been friends at this point? I'm not that gooshy with my friends I've had 30 years.

Yeah it creeps me out too. I think it's all Casey though. She uses it to disarm and distract. Casey is a sickening person.

[Dick Tracy]

Thats why casey anthony gained Amys trust. She used all those endearing terms.

Those endearing terms were temporary feel goods that the PRP would get from her friends. She had to know that she was loved by them. Little did she know that they all thought she was a habitual liar.

Personally speaking, there is no room in my camp for friends that lie.

[Sandy001]

I didn't know there was such a thing as a pre trial hearing.....I thought they would just go right into trial...What would be the point? I hope it's not to see if she should stand trial.....

I want to get on with this trial asap.....I want to still be young enough to cheer when the guilty verdict comes in...:biggrin:

I believe the pretrial hearing is just to very that both sides are ready to go - at least that is what it is like in states that use a Grand Jury.

[Cynthia]

Hi Desmom -

This conversation shows me that at least Amy realized that she had to pull it together, and keep a job. You'd think that the PRP (pork rind princess) would have had some of Amy's initiative rub off on her. But No. The prp was probably thinking of who she was going to rip off, and how.

Funny!!!! Instead of getting a job Casey was taking the money Amy was making......

[desmom]

Hi Desmom -

This conversation shows me that at least Amy realized that she had to pull it together, and keep a job. You'd think that the PRP (pork rind princess) would have had some of Amy's initiative rub off on her. But No. The prp was probably thinking of who she was going to rip off, and how.

As long as Casey was able to con $20 out of George and/or Cindy ever now and then, steal from Caylee's bank account or piggy bank, use her mother's credit cards and pick up a few bucks here and there from friends and other family members, why should Casey get a job? :tonguewag:

[ish]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"

[CelticDawn]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"

with nanny and Grandma ?

So, (and this is because I really am on information overload and dont remember) did Amy know the name zenaida from before the story came out???...before cindy and Lee mentioned it??

[101Spots]

Yeah, me too, 101Spots.

Maybe we can just high 5 our canes. :laugh:

JMO

It's a deal. What the heck - I'm going to rock a little faster in my rocking chair, too.

[ish]

Yeah it creeps me out too. I think it's all Casey though. She uses it to disarm and distract. Casey is a sickening person.

Agreed, I don't call too many of my friends, male or female, honey, sweetie, love, my love, my lady etc. and if one of them used those terms to me it would ring some warning bells.

I'd refer to someone who used those terms so frequently and insincerely as Casey did, a "brown-noser".

[101Spots]

Those endearing terms were temporary feel goods that the PRP would get from her friends. She had to know that she was loved by them. Little did she know that they all thought she was a habitual liar.

Personally speaking, there is no room in my camp for friends that lie.

In my camp, "lying friends" is an oxymoron. A friend who lies is no longer a friend.

[CelticDawn]

As long as Casey was able to con $20 out of George and/or Cindy ever now and then, steal from Caylee's bank account or piggy bank, use her mother's credit cards and pick up a few bucks here and there from friends and other family members, why should Casey get a job? :tonguewag:

It just seems to me that she wasn't stealing enough money to live on....How did she survive like that?....20 isn't going to get her through a day of being out and about....all the other thefts....who was paying her BILLS bills?????

Just doesnt compute....IMO

[Explorer]

Agreed, I don't call too many of my friends, male or female, honey, sweetie, love, my love, my lady etc. and if one of them used those terms to me it would ring some warning bells.

I'd refer to someone who used those terms so frequently and insincerely as Casey did, a "brown-noser".

It sounds fake, as if you're trying to entice someone.

[ish]

with nanny and Grandma ?

So, (and this is because I really am on information overload and dont remember) did Amy know the name zenaida from before the story came out???...before cindy and Lee mentioned it??

that is the wording Amy used, "nanny and grandma" I don't know if Amy recognized "Zanny" as the name of the nanny, if I have time to check her statement again I'll let you know. Like you said information overload sometimes,,,can't remember who said what to who or when.:huh:

[desmom]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"

From Amy's 7/23 interview with LE ... LE wants to discuss Amy's group of friends:

"...and J.P. Chatt, who I also live with, who is way less involved in this story and didn't like Casey to begin with..."

I remember seeing his web page. He is employed by one of the Orlando tv stations and seemed quite focused on his education and career.

LE must have talked to him at some time because the State has him listed on the witness list. page 6 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/03/04/sanctions.pdf

jmo

[ish]

It sounds fake, as if you're trying to entice someone.

kind of like a used car salesman? Oh George was one, wasn't he? Maybe that's where Casey learned it!

[breezie]

page 77 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080890/Casey-Anthony-Court-Documents-Part-3

Amy told LE she apparently met Casey in 2007 when Casey attended a party Amy had. Amy did not recall meeting her at the party. Amy left to work for a cruise ship for six months. When she returned, Casey "got pretty close with my group of friends" and she was dating one of Amy's temp roommates...IMO, Ricardo.

ETA ~ Ricardo told LE he met Casey at a party at Amy's house the first week of June 2007 and again at a party in January 2008 at Troy's house. Ricardo and Casey started dating in February 2008. page 2 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

thank you! Casey meets Amy, then while Amy is gone, moves in on her friends.

[Explorer]

kind of like a used car salesman? Oh George was one, wasn't he? Maybe that's where Casey learned it!

It sounds like a guy desperate to get a date with a girl.

[Explorer]

thank you! Casey meets Amy, then while Amy is gone, moves in on her friends.

She took everything from Amy didnt she:mad:

[AlohaRainbow]

*snip*
ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"
did amy say when it was that casey told her caylee was on vacation with nanny and grandma cindy at the beach and in "a better place"?
i agree - interesting choice of words, especially if it was said after june 16th.

[desmom]

It just seems to me that she wasn't stealing enough money to live on....How did she survive like that?....20 isn't going to get her through a day of being out and about....all the other thefts....who was paying her BILLS bills?????

Just doesnt compute....IMO

What bills? She had free room and board. If she needed something, she would lift one of Cindy's credit cards.

jmo

[JHP]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"

Also, away from all the drama and stress. very telling about what the poor little girl lived with, i'm sure since before she was born.

[CelticDawn]

What bills? She had free room and board. If she needed something, she would lift one of Cindy's credit cards.

jmo

It just doesn't seem like the big bad Cindy that she tries to portray publicly....letting ANYBODY including Casey get away with stealing from her....and for 2.5 YEARS....not 2 times....not occasionally.....all the time....

??


It is just so strange!!

[ish]

She took everything from Amy didnt she:mad:

Maybe Amy was what Casey wanted to be, able to go out and enjoy herself without answering to parents or responsible for a child, living on her own and seeing who she wanted to see. Underneath Casey probably resented Amy's freedom not realizing that Amy had just as many responsibilites, earning enough to pay her rent and bills and everthing else. Casey wanted everything but with no responsibility, and I doubt she thought twice about stealing from Amy, it was just as easy as stealing from Mom and Dad or the GP's.

[Explorer]

Thats true she probably envied Amy.

[ish]

with nanny and Grandma ?

So, (and this is because I really am on information overload and dont remember) did Amy know the name zenaida from before the story came out???...before cindy and Lee mentioned it??

I checked back, yes Amy had heard the name Zanny prior to Caylee being reported missing. No last name, but nanny/Zanny were interchangable.

[shelkobe]

I suspect Casey was probably also lifting money out of Cindy's wallet when she could. George admitted to giving Casey money for oil changes and the like, and he would not ask for change back, but I'm sure she never spent that money on oil changes.

[*MoonRider*]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

[desmom]

thank you! Casey meets Amy, then while Amy is gone, moves in on her friends.

I just ran across this....page 100 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080890/Casey-Anthony-Court-Documents-Part-3

Amy: Well say four months we've been pretty tight.

[ish]

It just doesn't seem like the big bad Cindy that she tries to portray publicly....letting ANYBODY including Casey get away with stealing from her....and for 2.5 YEARS....not 2 times....not occasionally.....all the time....

??


It is just so strange!!

I don't think Casey needed a lot of cold hard cash, don't forget she scammed the parents out of 4K with the phony deposit slip, with that as a slush fund and charging Cindy's credit card for the "big stuff" she was good to go 4k is a lot of walking around money. As far as Cindy goes, once Casey realized Mommy didn't want outsiders to know how F'D up the family was, she could steal at will. Cindy would try to control it from within but she hadn't gone public (to the police) with Casey's thieving. I think Casey was betting she never would.

[CelticDawn]

I checked back, yes Amy had heard the name Zanny prior to Caylee being reported missing. No last name, but nanny/Zanny were interchangable.

Thanks Ish.

...I wonder if that will go towards proving premeditation....If (which I believe) casey totally fabricated "zanny"...and then WHY...???...and ...How long was she planning to do away with caylee??

[EverMoth]

PORK RIND PRINCESS - PRP! Love it!!

Thank you so much for the Monday morning giggles. :laugh:

[CelticDawn]

I don't think Casey needed a lot of cold hard cash, don't forget she scammed the parents out of 4K with the phony deposit slip, with that as a slush fund and charging Cindy's credit card for the "big stuff" she was good to go 4k is a lot of walking around money. As far as Cindy goes, once Casey realized Mommy didn't want outsiders to know how F'D up the family was, she could steal at will. Cindy would try to control it from within but she hadn't gone public (to the police) with Casey's thieving. I think Casey was betting she never would.

Good Lord...all that to hide what should have been TREATED in a psych fa cility.....could have saved herself and the world a lot of grief!

MY Mom (rest her soul) would probably have shot me!!!....

[CelticDawn]

PORK RIND PRINCESS - PRP! Love it!!

Thank you so much for the Monday morning giggles. :laugh:

PRPPOF!!! :lol:

[101Spots]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

Buzz kill. :thumbdown:

[CelticDawn]

Buzz kill. :thumbdown:

considering who was involved and the history between them...I doubted that the OCSD...or the DA s office would be interested in ADDING another ring to this already multiple ring freak show....


....too bad!

[ish]

Thanks Ish.

...I wonder if that will go towards proving premeditation....If (which I believe) casey totally fabricated "zanny"...and then WHY...???...and ...How long was she planning to do away with caylee??

my guess on the Zanny name is that, she concocted a story that she had a babysitter/nanny and of course, status conscious Casey would refer to her as a nanny. When asked for a name she had to think quick and also think of something easy to remember for future lies. Rhyming is good for that so ...nanny...um um um what rhymes with nanny.. Oh Zanny, yeah Zanny the nanny, easy to remember, hard to forget.

[CelticDawn]

.....and BRAD CONWAY is a despicable person.....IMO!!!

"didnt happen that way"


WELL...I can see george (and his temper) menacing ....even though the women were in a vehicle.....

[ish]

Good Lord...all that to hide what should have been TREATED in a psych fa cility.....could have saved herself and the world a lot of grief!

MY Mom (rest her soul) would probably have shot me!!!....

I wish my mom would have been as kind about it as yours!!! A slow and painful death would have been my fate.:laugh:

[breezie]

.....and BRAD CONWAY is a despicable person.....IMO!!!

"didnt happen that way"


WELL...I can see george (and his temper) menacing ....even though the women were in a vehicle.....

He only goes after Women with his temper...remember the woman who he shoved in the chest? coward.

[ish]

.....and BRAD CONWAY is a despicable person.....IMO!!!

"didnt happen that way"


WELL...I can see george (and his temper) menacing ....even though the women were in a vehicle.....

And Brad is up their butts 24/7 now? He witnessed this or just "heard" their version of events?

[*MoonRider*]

.....and BRAD CONWAY is a despicable person.....IMO!!!

"didnt happen that way"

WELL...I can see george (and his temper) menacing ....even though the women were in a vehicle.....
What about the Milstead impersonating LE again???

[Dick Tracy]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

[bchand]

And Brad is up their butts 24/7 now? He witnessed this or just "heard" their version of events?

He knew nothing about it when contacted by the media. Later on, after talking with the Anthonys, he came out with a completely different story from the one the women told.

George was in danger you know. They almost ran over his foot.

So how come his foot was so close to their car?

[breezie]

And Brad is up their butts 24/7 now? He witnessed this or just "heard" their version of events?

must be how he hurt his back...twisting all the stories coming from/about the Anthonys. I wonder if he still thinks it's worth it.

[CelticDawn]

What about the Milstead impersonating LE again???

I REALLY want to see the day that those people are dragged cuffed down the "walk of shame" and tossed in jail.....even Moreso than ccindy and ggeorge...(mainly because IMO Cindy and George are REALLY pathetic characters)....

[CelticDawn]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

I will answer your question with a question:...or two

Is it at all POSSIBLE that cindy already KNEW that casey had disposed of caylees body....and along with it, matching items that IF found they could say...."our sets of this, that, or the other are all here and intact.....MUST BE FROM THE EXTRA SETS OF EVERYTHING ZANNY HAD FOR CAYLEE!!!....YES AGENT! THAT IS IT!!!"
???

[*MoonRider*]

Buzz kill. :thumbdown:

At least the A's despicable behavior is in the news again.

[ish]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

My guess is she doesn't want to have the extent of Casey's thieving revealed. I think some serious spending went on with those credit cards. I don't think it's the items themselves that are important, it's the dollar value she charged that Cindy doesn't want to admit. She thinks it will make Casey "look bad":confused:

[CelticDawn]

At least the A's despicable behavior is in the news again.

You know what???


In a way I hope they STAY in the news and that EVERY POSSIBLE JUROR ON THE PLANET knows exactly what they are all about

stealing money in the name of their deceased granddaughter....who was murdered by their evil spawn that they allowed to run amok....and now will lie, beg, borrow, and steal to try and free......when in fact she should be put on a rack.....Go Medieval on her! :mad:

[ish]

He knew nothing about it when contacted by the media. Later on, after talking with the Anthonys, he came out with a completely different story from the one the women told.

George was in danger you know. They almost ran over his foot.

So how come his foot was so close to their car?

well that would be one less foot he would have to insert into his mouth at trial!!!

[desmom]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

Can I add to your question of the day....

LE asked Amy if she ever saw Casey with a Bank of America Credit Card, a Bank of America ATM card or ever see Casey use a debit card (pages 31 - 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4823534/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-document ). Why is LE so interested in a Bank of America credit/debit/ATM card?

[KittyMom]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

There's always the hope that tougher charges will come following Casey's trial. :sneaky:

[KittyMom]

Can I add to your question of the day....

LE asked Amy if she ever saw Casey with a Bank of America Credit Card, a Bank of America ATM card or ever see Casey use a debit card (pages 31 - 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4823534/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-document ). Why is LE so interested in a Bank of America credit/debit/ATM card?

hmmm...I wonder.

[saywhat04]

Can I add to your question of the day....

LE asked Amy if she ever saw Casey with a Bank of America Credit Card, a Bank of America ATM card or ever see Casey use a debit card (pages 31 - 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4823534/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-document ). Why is LE so interested in a Bank of America credit/debit/ATM card?

It's a great question, desmom. I think early on in the case, LE was trying to separate fact from fiction with regard to what Cindy was or was not telling them. It's hard to know whether some of their questions to other witnesses like Amy were due to tips or suspicions or evidence they had, or were because they couldn't get straight answers out of Caylee's family members.

Just another of the reasons I've been so :cursing: about the A's from the beginning. It wasn't bad enough the MOTY was lying through her teeth, but her entire immediate family was hiding the truth as well.

Imo, LE had to conduct two investigations during a time of terrible urgency (or so we all assumed back then) -- one into Caylee's disappearance, and the other into what the A's were lying about, why they were lying about it, and what their lies meant to efforts to find Caylee.

[Katprint]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html
The first time I read this, my mind played a trick on me and I thought it said, "New Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys." I clicked the link to see what new charges - because I didn't recall any old charges - and saw what it really said. LOL!

My mind does a similar thing when I see links to WFTV News. I sometimes see it as WTF News (i.e. What The F***? News) because very often that is the phrase that immediately leaps to mind when I hear the latest crazy Anthony story they are reporting.

Too bad the Anthonys aren't being held accountable. Yet again.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Sun]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

I have always wondered if Cindy may have disputed with her CC company, some of the charges that Casey made. This wouldn't have anything to do with Caylee's murder, but could land Cindy in hot water with her CC company.

[ttcRider]

There's always the hope that tougher charges will come following Casey's trial. :sneaky:

Thats what I'm banking on. :wink:

[spiritwolf46]

You know what???


In a way I hope they STAY in the news and that EVERY POSSIBLE JUROR ON THE PLANET knows exactly what they are all about

stealing money in the name of their deceased granddaughter....who was murdered by their evil spawn that they allowed to run amok....and now will lie, beg, borrow, and steal to try and free......when in fact she should be put on a rack.....Go Medieval on her! :mad:

Ut Oh! Looks like I missed something! Can anyone fill me in? I will also look in the links page.

Thanks all! :wub:

[MiamiNice1]

I have always wondered if Cindy may have disputed with her CC company, some of the charges that Casey made. This wouldn't have anything to do with Caylee's murder, but could land Cindy in hot water with her CC company.

Oooooh! This makes SO much sense! Cindy could have possibly claimed to the CC company that it was a "stranger theft" so that she would not be liable for the charges! Good one, Sun!

[PuffDragon]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

Maybe Cindy has been lying to George all along about how much money Casey was stealing and is trying to keep him ever finding out the extent of it by stonewalling the police questions about her credit cards. Nothing about the murder and everything about protecting herself from George.

[desmom]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

IIRC, when LE asked Cindy for her JC Penney statements, Cindy assured them she had already checked it out and there was nothing there. (I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to think LE is going to drop the subject just because Cindy said so...imo)

IMO, Casey replaced something of Caylee's or something from the house. If this item was out of stock, the company may have special ordered the item. I think the term "special order" would appear on the cc statement.

jmo

[ish]

I have always wondered if Cindy may have disputed with her CC company, some of the charges that Casey made. This wouldn't have anything to do with Caylee's murder, but could land Cindy in hot water with her CC company.

My take is that Cindy covered for Casey and then was resentful of the fact that she couldn't or wouldn't turn Casey in for stealing because of the embarassment factor. Casey knew it and used that to her advantage.

[Sandy001]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html
GRRR, if this was anyone else, they'd be cooling their heels in jail.'If I were closer, I'd go stake it out myself. adn get it ALL on tape. They have a picture of the Milstead's pursueingthem with strobel ights. Why do the Milsteads, clearly criminals at heart, get a free pass. I guess if you side with the Anthony family, you can literally get away with murder.

I have to go chill out. The computer is about to go through the window.

[desmom]

The first time I read this, my mind played a trick on me and I thought it said, "New Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys." I clicked the link to see what new charges - because I didn't recall any old charges - and saw what it really said. LOL!

My mind does a similar thing when I see links to WFTV News. I sometimes see it as WTF News (i.e. What The F***? News) because very often that is the phrase that immediately leaps to mind when I hear the latest crazy Anthony story they are reporting.

Too bad the Anthonys aren't being held accountable. Yet again.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

:lol: at WFTV. I thought I was the only one that read it that way. I always look twice when I type it because I have typed it as WTFV in the past.

I think the reason they were not charged is because it came down to a he said/she said type situation. jmo

[Dick Tracy]

Can I add to your question of the day....

LE asked Amy if she ever saw Casey with a Bank of America Credit Card, a Bank of America ATM card or ever see Casey use a debit card (pages 31 - 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4823534/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-document ). Why is LE so interested in a Bank of America credit/debit/ATM card?

I didn't know this. But it will make me start looking for more information about it. I think the PRP could have bought any number of things. Is it the Penny's card that from the outside appears to be so damning?

I thought it might have had something to do with online purchases ? :unsure:

[saywhat04]

The first time I read this, my mind played a trick on me and I thought it said, "New Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys." I clicked the link to see what new charges - because I didn't recall any old charges - and saw what it really said. LOL!

My mind does a similar thing when I see links to WFTV News. I sometimes see it as WTF News (i.e. What The F***? News) because very often that is the phrase that immediately leaps to mind when I hear the latest crazy Anthony story they are reporting.

Too bad the Anthonys aren't being held accountable. Yet again.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Bolding mine. ITA. They A's won't see this as having "dodged a bullet," but rather as further proof of their invincibility and entitlement.

[Sandy001]

:lol: at WFTV. I thought I was the only one that read it that way. I always look twice when I type it because I have typed it as WTFV in the past.

I think the reason they were not charged is because it came down to a he said/she said type situation. jmo EXCEPT they have pictures of the Milstead's with their strobes on, following them.

Why are the Milsteads getting a free pass?

[MiamiNice1]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"

(bolding mine) This is an EXCELLENT observation, ish!! That entire sentence, especially in hindsight, is extremely telling.

[desmom]

Ut Oh! Looks like I missed something! Can anyone fill me in? I will also look in the links page.

Thanks all! :wub:

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

:chicken: to add it to the links thread.

[KP1935]

Bolding mine. ITA. They A's won't see this as having "dodged a bullet," but rather as further proof of their invincibility and entitlement.

Good, let them feel that way and now local "fat bloggers" should go each night for the next week and plant a cross at the site, videotaping to see if the A's and their personal bodyguards (the Milsteads) show up!

[MiamiNice1]

Bolding mine. ITA. They A's won't see this as having "dodged a bullet," but rather as further proof of their invincibility and entitlement.
As usual....you nail it. Totally. This is the exact type of thing that got Casey where she is today. The more bullies and users get away with their behavior, the more emboldended they become. The more empowered they feel to get away with another one. They don't learn from their mistakes in a "good" way - only learn how to do it better next time.

I'm with Sandy001.....laptop will soon be flying if I don't step away!

imo

[desmom]

I didn't know this. But it will make me start looking for more information about it. I think the PRP could have bought any number of things. Is it the Penny's card that from the outside appears to be so damning?

I thought it might have had something to do with online purchases ? :unsure:

I have read Amy's interviews several times and just did notice LE's questions about the BOA cards. It makes me wonder what else I have forgot.

I don't remember if they ever asked Cindy or George about a BOA card. Was one of Casey's friends or family members missing a BOA card that we have not heard about....yet?

jmo

[desmom]

EXCEPT they have pictures of the Milstead's with their strobes on, following them.

Why are the Milsteads getting a free pass?

Hmmm, the headline reads: No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys. Maybe the Milsteads are not getting a free pass or are still being investigated. :shrug:

[seeing_eye]

Hi Desmom -

This conversation shows me that at least Amy realized that she had to pull it together, and keep a job. You'd think that the PRP (pork rind princess) would have had some of Amy's initiative rub off on her. But No. The prp was probably thinking of who she was going to rip off, and how.

When I saw PRP I thought it meant "perp." :laugh: (I still think it does.)

[*MoonRider*]

Hmmm, the headline reads: No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys. Maybe the Milsteads are not getting a free pass or are still being investigated. :shrug:

Wishful thinking :thumbsup:

[TunaMelt]

It just doesn't seem like the big bad Cindy that she tries to portray publicly....letting ANYBODY including Casey get away with stealing from her....and for 2.5 YEARS....not 2 times....not occasionally.....all the time....

??


It is just so strange!!

Not so strange.

Cindy allowed the stealing so she'd have it to hold over Casey's head sometime in the future.

Casey stole Cindy's money, but in a sense she was adding to Cindy's "bank account" of emotional blackmail "chits" that she could cash in whenever she felt the need to bring Casey down.

Allowing Casey to steal her money gave Cindy control over Casey.

And that's what it was all about, really. Control. Cindy's. Over everyone.

[desmom]

Wishful thinking :thumbsup:

A girl can hope now, can't she? :D

I bet every time LE receives a call and the Anthony name is mentioned or the Hopespring address, they cringe. jmo

[ruth66]

Can I add to your question of the day....

LE asked Amy if she ever saw Casey with a Bank of America Credit Card, a Bank of America ATM card or ever see Casey use a debit card (pages 31 - 32 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4823534/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-document ). Why is LE so interested in a Bank of America credit/debit/ATM card?

If memory serves me correctly, CA banks with B of A. LE may have been trying to see if CA was hiding any more of Casey's theiving. My recollection was that LE asked CA where she banked and if that was the only bank she had accounts with. LE may have already heard about the $4,500 forged deposit slip.

JMO

[spiritwolf46]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

:chicken: to add it to the links thread.

Thank you much, Desmom!

Well, once again they got away with something, but I have to agree with on of the people who left a comment on the wesh site that they don't want to press charges due to a hostile situation during the trial. I am just hoping that they get what they DESERVE down the line and after Casey's trial.

I am sure that they think they are invinsible right now, but time will prove them to be wrong. They have to still go before Morgan and his crew and I am sure that they will HAVE to answer the questions brought up or be in contempt. They will also have to cool their jets or Morgan will not have it.

[Sun]

Not so strange.

Cindy allowed the stealing so she'd have it to hold over Casey's head sometime in the future.

Casey stole Cindy's money, but in a sense she was adding to Cindy's "bank account" of emotional blackmail "chits" that she could cash in whenever she felt the need to bring Casey down.

Allowing Casey to steal her money gave Cindy control over Casey.

And that's what it was all about, really. Control. Cindy's. Over everyone.

ITA. There was a reason that Casey kept all those receipts. LOL

[TunaMelt]

Thank you much, Desmom!

Well, once again they got away with something, but I have to agree with on of the people who left a comment on the wesh site that they don't want to press charges due to a hostile situation during the trial. I am just hoping that they get what they DESERVE down the line and after Casey's trial.

I am sure that they think they are invinsible right now, but time will prove them to be wrong. They have to still go before Morgan and his crew and I am sure that they will HAVE to answer the questions brought up or be in contempt. They will also have to cool their jets or Morgan will not have it.

I agree with that. I couldn't see LE wanting to take on this situation with all the other Anthony situations already muddying up Florida's legal system.

These people, this Anthony family, they will get theirs down the line. They will, and I believe this with everything I have in me -- they will get theirs.

These skirmishes are not even little battles. So regardless that the Anthonys think they've "won" they've done no such thing. They've only underscored yet again the fact that they are lazy foolish losers with a daughter in jail for the murder of her baby daughter -- how can they consider anything they do as a victory when their life is on the whole a failure in every sense of the word?

They can't, is the answer.

They'll get their due, in due time.
The trial is going to rock them to their rotten cores.

[spiritwolf46]

I agree with that. I couldn't see LE wanting to take on this situation with all the other Anthony situations already muddying up Florida's legal system.

These people, this Anthony family, they will get theirs down the line. They will, and I believe this with everything I have in me -- they will get theirs.

These skirmishes are not even little battles. So regardless that the Anthonys think they've "won" they've done no such thing. They've only underscored yet again the fact that they are lazy foolish losers with a daughter in jail for the murder of her baby daughter -- how can you consider anything you do as a victory when your life is on the whole a failure in every sense of the word?

They can't, is the answer.

They'll get their due, in due time.
The trial is going to rock them to their rotten cores.

GREAT POST!!!!!! Could NOT have said it better!

[AMS]

Thank you much, Desmom!

Well, once again they got away with something, but I have to agree with on of the people who left a comment on the wesh site that they don't want to press charges due to a hostile situation during the trial. I am just hoping that they get what they DESERVE down the line and after Casey's trial.

I am sure that they think they are invinsible right now, but time will prove them to be wrong. They have to still go before Morgan and his crew and I am sure that they will HAVE to answer the questions brought up or be in contempt. They will also have to cool their jets or Morgan will not have it.

The Ants are pretty smug they got away with this imo. Probably helps with their "holier than thou attitude". This means they will be out in public again soon. Cindy can't stay quiet for long periods of time and if they think they can get away with whatever they say or do....we should be seeing them soon. imo


imo

[spiritwolf46]

The Ants are pretty smug they got away with this imo. Probably helps with their "holier than thou attitude". This means they will be out in public again soon. Cindy can't stay quiet for long periods of time and if they think they can get away with whatever they say or do....we should be seeing them soon. imo


imo

Hi AMS!

I say, let them feel this way. The more they do stuff like this, the more people are getting pizzed, seeing them for what they are, and if they think that anyone or anything has tainted a jury pool against their precious OC, they are right! IT IS THEM!

I still think that they will get it in the end and so will Casey! ;)

[Barbara fl.]

Has there ever been an interview with JP Chatt? I don't recall ever seeing anything that would be even considered a statement directly from him. I wonder why LE never interviewed him. As far as JP not liking Casey, I have read that JP came from a wealthy family and my thought is that if it is true, possibly JP had a developed a good BS detector over the years and was able to sense phony people, he may have had people in the past want to be his friend cause of money or access to the extras that wealthy people have. He may have picked up on that aspect of Casey's personality.

ALso Amy's statement where she talks about Casey telling her that Caylee was on a vacay with nanny and Grandma @ the beach and Busch Gardens and other places. Casey tells Amy she is missing Caylee but that she is glad she is in a better place, just having fun and doing things away from all the drama and stress. Very odd word choice in my opinion, "a better place"


Yes, I'm glad that you noticed that.....Those words are very telling....I don't know of that being said for anything else other than if a person is deceased....The second part of that sentence was just Casey catching herself and trying to clean it up....

I can not wait for the jury to come in....I guess I'm a little ahead of myself....:sneaky:

[Barbara fl.]

Hi AMS!

I say, let them feel this way. The more they do stuff like this, the more people are getting pizzed, seeing them for what they are, and if they think that anyone or anything has tainted a jury pool against their precious OC, they are right! IT IS THEM!

I still think that they will get it in the end and so will Casey! ;)

Without a doubt......

[spiritwolf46]

Yes, I'm glad that you noticed that.....Those words are very telling....I don't know of that being said for anything else other than if a person is deceased....The second part of that sentence was just Casey catching herself and trying to clean it up....

I can not wait for the jury to come in....I guess I'm a little ahead of myself....:sneaky:

Well, I cannot wait either and I think that we are in good company while we wait! LOL! ;)

[Barbara fl.]

Not so strange.

Cindy allowed the stealing so she'd have it to hold over Casey's head sometime in the future.

Casey stole Cindy's money, but in a sense she was adding to Cindy's "bank account" of emotional blackmail "chits" that she could cash in whenever she felt the need to bring Casey down.

Allowing Casey to steal her money gave Cindy control over Casey.

And that's what it was all about, really. Control. Cindy's. Over everyone.



I think it was more that Cindy controlled George and maybe Lee but when it came to Casey, it was a different story....I think Casey was spoiled to the bone and couldn't take being told what to do or being caught in a lie...I think it infuriated Casey and therefore the family catered to Casey, thus enabling her to keep doing what she was doing...UNTIL it ended in murder (which C & G probably never thought it would do)...now, in order to get the guilt off of themselves they are insisting that Casey is telling the truth and that a "Zanny the nanny" does exists...

As long as they keep up this charade, they can keep looking at themselves in the mirror...

If you noticed at the last court hearing...Cindy looked very upset (for real) but we only got to see it because the camera zoomed in on her for the split second that she raised her head.....aside from that, she hid behind the person in front of her, as if not to want anyone to see her like that.....The only reason I can come up with is that Andrea Lyons must have laid it out for Cindy and just how rediculous the story of the nanny is, AL probably told her that the story would have to change if there was going to be any defense at all....(which, my personal believe is that no matter what, there is not going to be a defense)....

But that was my take on it....

[Barbara fl.]

My guess is she doesn't want to have the extent of Casey's thieving revealed. I think some serious spending went on with those credit cards. I don't think it's the items themselves that are important, it's the dollar value she charged that Cindy doesn't want to admit. She thinks it will make Casey "look bad":confused:


I wonder if Cindy ever reported the loss to the CC company and had the charges removed...because if she did then the CC company can prosecute Casey for their loss....

Could be why Cindy didn't want to answer the question on national TV....

I remember a friend of mine was waiting for a CC in the mail but her sister got it and used it....she ran up a large amount and my friend didn't want to report her sister....but the charges were removed from her card and she told the CC company that she didn't know who did it.....But I think if the CC company hears Cindy state that Casey had ran up her CC the company can prosecute Casey, but probably only if they had removed the charges from the bill for Cindy.....

Unless Cindy paid the charges....Just a thought.....

[Barbara fl.]

Are the boards going slow again...or am I on here alone again...?

[Sun]

If you noticed at the last court hearing...Cindy looked very upset (for real) but we only got to see it because the camera zoomed in on her for the split second that she raised her head.....aside from that, she hid behind the person in front of her, as if not to want anyone to see her like that.....The only reason I can come up with is that Andrea Lyons must have laid it out for Cindy and just how rediculous the story of the nanny is, AL probably told her that the story would have to change if there was going to be any defense at all....(which, my personal believe is that no matter what, there is not going to be a defense)....
But that was my take on it....
I thought that it looked as if Cindy was having a bad drug day. I also think that Cindy is now trying out her "grieving grandma" act, much like she did just days prior to the court hearing at the Haleigh vigil. I don't buy it. I think that it is all an act. An act like we saw just a couple of weeks ago on a Morning Show.

I don't think that Casey's attorneys are talking with George or Cindy. JMO though.

[Sun]

I wonder if Cindy ever reported the loss to the CC company and had the charges removed...because if she did then the CC company can prosecute Casey for their loss....

Could be why Cindy didn't want to answer the question on national TV....

I remember a friend of mine was waiting for a CC in the mail but her sister got it and used it....she ran up a large amount and my friend didn't want to report her sister....but the charges were removed from her card and she told the CC company that she didn't know who did it.....But I think if the CC company hears Cindy state that Casey had ran up her CC the company can prosecute Casey, but probably only if they had removed the charges from the bill for Cindy.....

Unless Cindy paid the charges....Just a thought.....

Hi Barabara, you are not alone in these thoughts!

[nykaren]

[QUOTE=Barbara fl.;13177908]I wonder if Cindy ever reported the loss to the CC company and had the charges removed...because if she did then the CC company can prosecute Casey for their loss....

Could be why Cindy didn't want to answer the question on national TV....

I remember a friend of mine was waiting for a CC in the mail but her sister got it and used it....she ran up a large amount and my friend didn't want to report her sister....but the charges were removed from her card and she told the CC company that she didn't know who did it.....But I think if the CC company hears Cindy state that Casey had ran up her CC the company can prosecute Casey, but probably only if they had removed the charges from the bill for Cindy.....

Unless Cindy paid the charges....Just a thought.....[/QUOTE Always follow the money in a investigation. I'm behind , on this subject but trying to get caught up. I'm new to these threads.

[spiritwolf46]

Are the boards going slow again...or am I on here alone again...?

I think that itis just slow again. I am just reading as new posts come up but I am here with ya for a few more minutes. :)

[spiritwolf46]

[QUOTE=Barbara fl.;13177908]I wonder if Cindy ever reported the loss to the CC company and had the charges removed...because if she did then the CC company can prosecute Casey for their loss....

Could be why Cindy didn't want to answer the question on national TV....

I remember a friend of mine was waiting for a CC in the mail but her sister got it and used it....she ran up a large amount and my friend didn't want to report her sister....but the charges were removed from her card and she told the CC company that she didn't know who did it.....But I think if the CC company hears Cindy state that Casey had ran up her CC the company can prosecute Casey, but probably only if they had removed the charges from the bill for Cindy.....

Unless Cindy paid the charges....Just a thought.....[/QUOTE Always follow the money in a investigation. I'm behind , on this subject but trying to get caught up. I'm new to these threads.

Hi Karen! Welcome to the board!

[Dick Tracy]

Not so strange.

Cindy allowed the stealing so she'd have it to hold over Casey's head sometime in the future.

Casey stole Cindy's money, but in a sense she was adding to Cindy's "bank account" of emotional blackmail "chits" that she could cash in whenever she felt the need to bring Casey down.

Allowing Casey to steal her money gave Cindy control over Casey.

And that's what it was all about, really. Control. Cindy's. Over everyone.

I'm not sure she allowed the stealing to go on. No one with half a brain likes to deal with a thief, especially in the family. The PRP (pork rind princess) just thought it was OKAY to steal. She's probably done it all her life, and then tried to smooth it all over with tears and promises and whatever she could do to make it go away.

Cindy has never had control over Casey. Until now. IMO, she about 20 years too late.

[nykaren]

Hi, everyone. I'm new here.So bare with me. What ever is going on they will get caught. There not that smart. They say: Follow the money Trail in any investigation.

[ish]

I think it was more that Cindy controlled George and maybe Lee but when it came to Casey, it was a different story....I think Casey was spoiled to the bone and couldn't take being told what to do or being caught in a lie...I think it infuriated Casey and therefore the family catered to Casey, thus enabling her to keep doing what she was doing...UNTIL it ended in murder (which C & G probably never thought it would do)...now, in order to get the guilt off of themselves they are insisting that Casey is telling the truth and that a "Zanny the nanny" does exists...

As long as they keep up this charade, they can keep looking at themselves in the mirror...

If you noticed at the last court hearing...Cindy looked very upset (for real) but we only got to see it because the camera zoomed in on her for the split second that she raised her head.....aside from that, she hid behind the person in front of her, as if not to want anyone to see her like that.....The only reason I can come up with is that Andrea Lyons must have laid it out for Cindy and just how rediculous the story of the nanny is, AL probably told her that the story would have to change if there was going to be any defense at all....(which, my personal believe is that no matter what, there is not going to be a defense)....

But that was my take on it....

I think Cindy was indeed upset but I think it is for other reasons. I also kind of doubt that AL would have told the family how ridiculous Casey's story is. My basis for that is the defense has to be 1000% behind the version of events that they are going to put before the jurors, no matter how fantabulous it is, they have to profer it to the jury with a straight face. IF they tell the people they are depending on to get up on the stand and put forth the defense version that the story is preposterous how convincing will the witness be? Indeed it's gonna be hard enough to control G&C anyway, can you imagine if they decide to try and "help" the defense by changing their story yet again in front of the jury?

The reason CIndy is upset I think is that once again they have no contact with Casey prior to court and it's looking like Casey is totally ignoring them. I think the weight of the evidence is starting to seep into their minds, George in particular. CIndy I think always had it in the back of her head that Casey had a hand in Caylee's death, accidental or otherwise. George however tried to maintain his "I'm not drawing a conclusion til all the evidence is in" posture, but when the reality hit him it hit him harder than it ever rocked Cindy. For George it was I believe, the location of Caylee's remains and the items she was found with. That brought the truth right to his heart.

[nykaren]

I have no clue how to use this board. lol. I will learn soon enough. I noticed I put qoute under Barbra fl. Have no clue.

[margaritaville]

I thought that it looked as if Cindy was having a bad drug day. I also think that Cindy is now trying out her "grieving grandma" act, much like she did just days prior to the court hearing at the Haleigh vigil. I don't buy it. I think that it is all an act. An act like we saw just a couple of weeks ago on a Morning Show.

I don't think that Casey's attorneys are talking with George or Cindy. JMO though.


This video is the only one I have actually believed CA emotions were genuine....I did really feel for her here.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17873279/index.html

Other then that ITA with you that it has been an act.

[ish]

I wonder if Cindy ever reported the loss to the CC company and had the charges removed...because if she did then the CC company can prosecute Casey for their loss....

Could be why Cindy didn't want to answer the question on national TV....

I remember a friend of mine was waiting for a CC in the mail but her sister got it and used it....she ran up a large amount and my friend didn't want to report her sister....but the charges were removed from her card and she told the CC company that she didn't know who did it.....But I think if the CC company hears Cindy state that Casey had ran up her CC the company can prosecute Casey, but probably only if they had removed the charges from the bill for Cindy.....

Unless Cindy paid the charges....Just a thought.....

But the charges were not all on one day, as is the usual case i think. When someone got my cc a while ago , they charged a lot of stuff over a very short period of time 2/3 days. Then dumped the card. I think Casey's was more systematic and over a longer period of time. I think the cc company would give you a harder time in that case cause you should have noticed the charges and questioned them, indeed isn't there a window that you have to question any charges? After that time you're stuck.

DIdn't LE also have pics of Casey using the credit card with TonE at Penneys? I think they questioned him about that in his interview.

[Dick Tracy]

I have no clue how to use this board. lol. I will learn soon enough. I noticed I put qoute under Barbra fl. Have no clue.

HELLO NEW YORK! Hi Karen, welcome to the IN Session Board. If you want to post something and reference another post by another member, just click on the quote button, it will automatically put the proper syntax for the quote.

As long as your not a Yankee fan, you and I will get along GREAT! Just kiddng!

[Sun]

I have no clue how to use this board. lol. I will learn soon enough. I noticed I put qoute under Barbra fl. Have no clue.

If you click the QUOTE button, before you start typing in the comment box, move your cursor to the spot following the text.

[Dick Tracy]

I think Cindy was indeed upset but I think it is for other reasons. I also kind of doubt that AL would have told the family how ridiculous Casey's story is. My basis for that is the defense has to be 1000% behind the version of events that they are going to put before the jurors, no matter how fantabulous it is, they have to profer it to the jury with a straight face. IF they tell the people they are depending on to get up on the stand and put forth the defense version that the story is preposterous how convincing will the witness be? Indeed it's gonna be hard enough to control G&C anyway, can you imagine if they decide to try and "help" the defense by changing their story yet again in front of the jury?

The reason CIndy is upset I think is that once again they have no contact with Casey prior to court and it's looking like Casey is totally ignoring them. I think the weight of the evidence is starting to seep into their minds, George in particular. CIndy I think always had it in the back of her head that Casey had a hand in Caylee's death, accidental or otherwise. George however tried to maintain his "I'm not drawing a conclusion til all the evidence is in" posture, but when the reality hit him it hit him harder than it ever rocked Cindy. For George it was I believe, the location of Caylee's remains and the items she was found with. That brought the truth right to his heart.

I totally agree. Casey since the very start, has been mad as hell at her parents.. Reference that "Whoah, OMG big waste" phone call she made to get TL's phone number.

[Sun]

I can see Casey forbidding her attorneys to share any info with George or Cindy.

Don't let Cindy's attempts at "tearing" fool you. If she's out late at night, under the cover of darkness, stealing Caylee crosses, she's only putting on an act with those tears.

[ish]

I totally agree. Casey since the very start, has been mad as hell at her parents.. Reference that "Whoah, OMG big waste" phone call she made to get TL's phone number.

BUT not so mad that she tells them SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THEM, Her excuse is that Jose doesn't want her to see them or that she doesn't want to have it on TV to be analyzed so she can't see them.

She punishes them without letting them know they are being punished, so that when she needs them for something they will be so starved for a crumb from her they will do just about anything.

[djmsmom]

I totally agree. Casey since the very start, has been mad as hell at her parents.. Reference that "Whoah, OMG big waste" phone call she made to get TL's phone number.
Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.

[Sun]

Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.

Casey is being held on a NO BOND status. Murder One indictments in Florida aren't eligible to be bonded out of jail.

[Sun]

HeHeHe.... I just noticed a new entry on the Clerk of Courts files for the Civil Case. No news about the hearing date, but it looks like something is in the pipeline.

6/8/2009 Notice of Hearing Notice of Hearing FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

[myownopera]

This video is the only one I have actually believed CA emotions were genuine....I did really feel for her here.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17873279/index.html

Other then that ITA with you that it has been an act.


Thanks for posting that link, M'ville. I think this is the only one I have not seen - and I do agree with you -- that seemed like real emotion!! But now, as we all know, she is only concerned with Casey -- and you know, do any of us really know how we would act toward a daughter - a daughter that they really adore!! I don't know why, but there is some strange "connection" between C&G and the OC.

JMOO

[bballgrl]

HELLO NEW YORK! Hi Karen, welcome to the IN Session Board. If you want to post something and reference another post by another member, just click on the quote button, it will automatically put the proper syntax for the quote.

As long as your not a Yankee fan, you and I will get along GREAT! Just kiddng!


What about Yankee Fans??? :angry:

[TunaMelt]

I thought that it looked as if Cindy was having a bad drug day. I also think that Cindy is now trying out her "grieving grandma" act, much like she did just days prior to the court hearing at the Haleigh vigil. I don't buy it. I think that it is all an act. An act like we saw just a couple of weeks ago on a Morning Show.

I don't think that Casey's attorneys are talking with George or Cindy. JMO though.

I agree with you.
I saw a Cindy who was angry because she had to sit in the back row, because she and George got there late--and nobody, I mean oh the nerve of them!:rolleyes: kept a row open and waiting for their arrival. I saw that face on her, and I saw her shake her head in disgust as she sat down in that back row. I saw her wearing a granny looking crochet type pastel sweater-shrug-shawl LOL, and I remember thinking puce green was more her color than pinky peach and who was she kidding -- but I didn't see an authentically upset Cindy. She walks in, locates the cameras, and she's "on" IMO. It's all an act.

As for George and Cindy being told about the defense strategy, I don't think so. This is real life, whether those Anthony people want to believe it or not -- and I don't think the newly appointed lead counsel is going to bother having anything to do with George and Cindy Anthony -- any more than is absolutely necessary. Which would be very little, if anything at all, if it were me -- they just cause problems, they've got nothing to offer, and I'd want them away from me, until I had to examine them in court as witnesses.

:mellow:

[ish]

Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.

the bond is definately one reason, and I think it is still the struggle between Cindy and Casey over Caylee. Casey complained about Cindy helping open Caylee's presents because "i'm her mother" not Cindy. Now Cindy is front and center grieving for one of her "three children", taking what Casey considereds HER rightful place as Caylee's mother and to further quote Casey "just as much a victim".

Casey made her wishes known as to Caylee 's funeral arrangements and whether or not the public believes her to be guilty and therefore not deserving of any input there, Cindy and George have always maintained support for Casey and yet deliberately go outside her wishes with regard to the funeral. I took that as a direct slap at Casey from Cindy.

[TunaMelt]

the bond is definately one reason, and I think it is still the struggle between Cindy and Casey over Caylee. Casey complained about Cindy helping open Caylee's presents because "i'm her mother" not Cindy. Now Cindy is front and center grieving for one of her "three children", taking what Casey considereds HER rightful place as Caylee's mother and to further quote Casey "just as much a victim".

Casey made her wishes known as to Caylee 's funeral arrangements and whether or not the public believes her to be guilty and therefore not deserving of any input there, Cindy and George have always maintained support for Casey and yet deliberately go outside her wishes with regard to the funeral. I took that as a direct slap at Casey from Cindy.

Agree, ish.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in my own life, with friends and/or relations: even though a person is dead sometimes for years and years the people who were at each others' throats because of that person, continue to be at each other's throats.

It's insane! :rolleyes:
But then, so are the Anthonys.
:wink:

[TunaMelt]

HeHeHe.... I just noticed a new entry on the Clerk of Courts files for the Civil Case. No news about the hearing date, but it looks like something is in the pipeline.

6/8/2009 Notice of Hearing Notice of Hearing FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

:thumbsup:

...YAY!...

[trich]

No Charges To Be Filed Against Anthonys
http://www.wesh.com/news/19691148/detail.html

Never ceases to amaze me how these people never have to account for their behavior(actions) like most of us do.
I am still waiting for SOMETHING to come back and bite them in the butt.

[trich]

Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope everyone had a great weekend.

I wonder if any others will put up KC memorial crosses after finding out that g/c/misleds (not sure what thier name is) are pulling the memorials up.

I would proud and touched that if anyone did that for my family.

My Niece inlaw was murdered earlier in the year, this weekend a benefit for her 4 surviving children, I could not believe the community support............the donations of a blow up jump thing for the kids, we had a State Law Officer, and The local Law Enforcement give up their day by willing to be in the "dunk a cop"....asked people to bake, we ran out of tables for the baked goodies, asked companies to donate items to be raffled.... meat donated for roast beef sandwiches..I could go on and on. We miss her dearly.....I just cant explain how i felt to see these total strangers come together to help our family.


I am sorry for your family's loss.
But it is so nice to see how the community pitched in and helped to benefit her children.
That is what normal people do for others ....when they see a need they do what they can.
Out of love and compassion ...
It is a shame the Anthonys destroyed all the compassion most had for them in the beginning by showing their true character.
Shame on you Cindy, George and Lee.

[Sun]

I agree with you.
I saw a Cindy who was angry because she had to sit in the back row, because she and George got there late--and nobody, I mean oh the nerve of them!:rolleyes: kept a row open and waiting for their arrival. I saw that face on her, and I saw her shake her head in disgust as she sat down in that back row. I saw her wearing a granny looking crochet type pastel sweater-shrug-shawl LOL, and I remember thinking puce green was more her color than pinky peach and who was she kidding -- but I didn't see an authentically upset Cindy. She walks in, locates the cameras, and she's "on" IMO. It's all an act.
As for George and Cindy being told about the defense strategy, I don't think so. This is real life, whether those Anthony people want to believe it or not -- and I don't think the newly appointed lead counsel is going to bother having anything to do with George and Cindy Anthony -- any more than is absolutely necessary. Which would be very little, if anything at all, if it were me -- they just cause problems, they've got nothing to offer, and I'd want them away from me, until I had to examine them in court as witnesses.

:mellow:

Bolded by me. She did! She looked and focused right in on the camera, right at the very beginning. The camera operator caught her at it too. LOL What a good shot!

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Sun
HeHeHe.... I just noticed a new entry on the Clerk of Courts files for the Civil Case. No news about the hearing date, but it looks like something is in the pipeline.

6/8/2009 Notice of Hearing Notice of Hearing FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

I did find one reference to a Sept date that Kasen must have gotten for his "dismissal and/or stay" motions. However, I am really, really, really hoping that Morgan/Mitnik gets a much earlier court date for all the "compel to answer" motions that he has filed.

[saywhat04]

Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.

Most questions about Casey or her parents, imo, can be answered by understanding that nothing is ever their fault or responsibility. Casey's in trouble and in jail -- not her fault or responsibility -- therefore she's angry at her parents, in particular her mother for calling LE a year ago. She's angry at law enforcement. The state's attorneys. Her friends. Etc.

Nothing is ever their fault or responsibility. It's how they roll. It answers so many questions, imo.

[ish]

Agree, ish.

I've seen this sort of thing happen in my own life, with friends and/or relations: even though a person is dead sometimes for years and years the people who were at each others' throats because of that person, continue to be at each other's throats.

It's insane! :rolleyes:
But then, so are the Anthonys.
:wink:

It's sad too because, the child that was the object of all this friction can't even be put to rest in a way that doesn't continue to add to the friction. Her memorial was just a way for someone to show she had the power, that things will be done her way. Yet that person doesn't realize the only reason she has that power now is that the struggle for it cost that baby her life.

[margaritaville]

Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.


I think she is still mad that her mom and Dad had a chili party while she was in jail...

I also think that Casey is VERY jealous of her mom's new "stardom" and doing the circuit and seeing her "cameos" on TV..
I believe that Casey thinks it should be her going on the today show, and LKL talking about the nanny and how to prevent this from happening to some other child.
I mean she would be great in an interview she had already mastered the not crying so she could "stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things".
I honestly believe Casey thought she was clever enough with her story that they would never look at her as the POI....

moo

[ish]

Bolded by me. She did! She looked and focused right in on the camera, right at the very beginning. The camera operator caught her at it too. LOL What a good shot!

Cindy is very conscious of the camera, seeks it out and acknowledges its presence and then seems to ignore it while playing to it.

Casey however while she probably knows exactly where the camera is NEVER makes contact with it or acknowledges it, yet doesn't seem to be ignoring it. Should I say she is consiously oblivious to it? Does that make sense?

[ish]

I think she is still mad that her mom and Dad had a chili party while she was in jail...

I also think that Casey is VERY jealous of her mom's new "stardom" and doing the circuit and seeing her "cameos" on TV..
I believe that Casey thinks it should be her going on the today show, and LKL talking about the nanny and how to prevent this from happening to some other child.
I mean she would be great in an interview she had already mastered the not crying so she could "stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things".
I honestly believe Casey thought she was clever enough with her story that they would never look at her as the POI....

moo

Do you think Casey thought she could continue this kidnapping charade
once her parents found out Caylee was missing and kept them from calling the police? I think she might have tried..

[Sun]

Cindy is very conscious of the camera, seeks it out and acknowledges its presence and then seems to ignore it while playing to it.

Casey however while she probably knows exactly where the camera is NEVER makes contact with it or acknowledges it, yet doesn't seem to be ignoring it. Should I say she is consiously oblivious to it? Does that make sense?

chuckles.... In the one video taken of Casey, on Oct 14th at the jail in the interview room, she sure was curious to know if she was being "taped."

[ish]

chuckles.... In the one video taken of Casey, on Oct 14th at the jail in the interview room, she sure was curious to know if she was being "taped."

that may have been the only time, she showed an interest and even then you couldn't see her looking for it, she seemed to scan the area for it yet never focused on anything. very odd...

[margaritaville]

Cindy is very conscious of the camera, seeks it out and acknowledges its presence and then seems to ignore it while playing to it.

Casey however while she probably knows exactly where the camera is NEVER makes contact with it or acknowledges it, yet doesn't seem to be ignoring it. Should I say she is consiously oblivious to it? Does that make sense?


As we all sit here and write what we think the Anthony's are doing and why.
We compare Casey now to Casey 1 year ago through her weight and hair length, clothes.
We nit - pick apart every statement we hear whether it comes from an Anthony of an Attorney.
Do you ever wonder what Casey's old "friends" are saying about her?
Amy, TonE, Ricardo, Kristina, Jesse, what are they saying after seeing her at the last hearing??
They all also had a real connection with little Caylee.
Remember Tone saying that Caylee was playing with dishes in the pool yelling "look at me, look at me"...

I can't imagine how much their lives have changed. all young adults thrown into a murder trial...
A murder of a precious toddler........I couldn't imagine what they are going through!!

MOO

[TunaMelt]

Most questions about Casey or her parents, imo, can be answered by understanding that nothing is ever their fault or responsibility. Casey's in trouble and in jail -- not her fault or responsibility -- therefore she's angry at her parents, in particular her mother for calling LE a year ago. She's angry at law enforcement. The state's attorneys. Her friends. Etc.

Nothing is ever their fault or responsibility. It's how they roll. It answers so many questions, imo.

That's it.
That's exactly how they are, and how they were, and once she's in jail, that's how they'll be -- and how they'll spin it to the media:

"It's not her fault, she's innocent, it's a conspiracy, it's not our fault, it's not...not...not...:sneaky:"

[djmsmom]

I think she is still mad that her mom and Dad had a chili party while she was in jail...

I also think that Casey is VERY jealous of her mom's new "stardom" and doing the circuit and seeing her "cameos" on TV..
I believe that Casey thinks it should be her going on the today show, and LKL talking about the nanny and how to prevent this from happening to some other child.
I mean she would be great in an interview she had already mastered the not crying so she could "stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things".
I honestly believe Casey thought she was clever enough with her story that they would never look at her as the POI....

moo
ITA kc is jealous that her mom now gets to be the victim twice, greiving grandmother, and upset mother.

[djmsmom]

that may have been the only time, she showed an interest and even then you couldn't see her looking for it, she seemed to scan the area for it yet never focused on anything. very odd...

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.

[Sun]

that may have been the only time, she showed an interest and even then you couldn't see her looking for it, she seemed to scan the area for it yet never focused on anything. very odd...

That camera lens must have been hidden very, very good. Which it would have been, in a jail interview room. LOL

[Sun]

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.

LOL... It sure seemed that Casey thought that Tony would stand by her. Boy was she ever fooled by him! Tony wouldn't take Casey's calls, Casey even had Baez call him, and that went absolutely nowhere. LOL

[margaritaville]

Do you think Casey thought she could continue this kidnapping charade
once her parents found out Caylee was missing and kept them from calling the police? I think she might have tried..

Oh absolutely..No doubt about it...
That was her plan... and I think she figured they would "pin it on" ZFG.
She had her name..Her ties to New York (license plate) she had it all.

But where her plan went south was the job. She hadn't figured out the job well enough. I think she had thought that they would take her word on it. Why wouldn't they? I mean her job has "nothing" to do with Caylee being missing. (not in Casey's head anyway). So them calling ahead and knowing that the Universal was a lie...They already had her..
Once she turned around and told LE that she didn't really work there and they found a room to sit and chat......That is where (imho) that LE blew it with their questioning. I would have made Casey explain that if Universal gave her the phone "the only one with ZFG number in it" then there really isn't a phone is there? Meaning there is no number = no nanny..
If there was no job, why a Nanny? = No Nanny
No job means no money..No money = no nanny
No Jeffery Michael Hopkins w/ son Zach = no nanny

Snip>>>>>
(A) I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
of years ago.
(Q)And you would go to Jeff's house why?
(A) To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_Casey-0411-071608.htm


Did LE ever go to this house she claims she use to drop Caylee off at?? Just to prove "again" there
is no Jeffery, there is no house, there is no NANNY!!

I am really curious what way the defense is going to go with this........
If it is with the Nanny story......... you will hear me laughing from up here in MN.....

moo

[saywhat04]

It's sad too because, the child that was the object of all this friction can't even be put to rest in a way that doesn't continue to add to the friction. Her memorial was just a way for someone to show she had the power, that things will be done her way. Yet that person doesn't realize the only reason she has that power now is that the struggle for it cost that baby her life.

So well put, ish.

Control and power freaks, take heed: your compulsion isn't always just a benign quirk of your personality. Allowed free reign, it can be deadly.

[saywhat04]

chuckles.... In the one video taken of Casey, on Oct 14th at the jail in the interview room, she sure was curious to know if she was being "taped."

... a sure sign of someone, imo, who acts entirely differently when NOT being watched.

[ConchGirl]

Bingo. After all, had Cindy not called 911, this would have all been forgotten.
If Cindy would have given her just one more day. :rolleyes:

[saywhat04]

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.

I agree with you. I think that's the main reason she didn't want to appear at her hearings. Why wouldn't she take every opportunity to "help" with her defense, or at a minimum, get a few hours outside the jail? Imo, because she's mortified. Think about the front she put up before Caylee's murder, and the truth of her as it is now known.

[TunaMelt]

Oh absolutely..No doubt about it...
That was her plan... and I think she figured they would "pin it on" ZFG.
She had her name..Her ties to New York (license plate) she had it all.

But where her plan went south was the job. She hadn't figured out the job well enough. I think she had thought that they would take her word on it. Why wouldn't they? I mean her job has "nothing" to do with Caylee being missing. (not in Casey's head anyway). So them calling ahead and knowing that the Universal was a lie...They already had her..
Once she turned around and told LE that she didn't really work there and they found a room to sit and chat......That is where (imho) that LE blew it with their questioning. I would have made Casey explain that if Universal gave her the phone "the only one with ZFG number in it" then there really isn't a phone is there? Meaning there is no number = no nanny..
If there was no job, why a Nanny? = No Nanny
No job means no money..No money = no nanny
No Jeffery Michael Hopkins w/ son Zach = no nanny

Snip>>>>>
(A) I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
of years ago.
(Q)And you would go to Jeff's house why?
(A) To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_Casey-0411-071608.htm


Did LE ever go to this house she claims she use to drop Caylee off at?? Just to prove "again" there
is no Jeffery, there is no house, there is no NANNY!!

I am really curious what way the defense is going to go with this........
If it is with the Nanny story......... you will hear me laughing from up here in MN.....

moo

The Nanny lie is their biggest problem. It makes every other defense scheme almost implausible.

And this is the problem that Morgan and Mitnik continue to bring up in the media: the fact that Casey Anthony will not state under oath that their client is not her Zenaida Gonzales is bothersome and troublesome to say the very least.

It means Casey Anthony and those lawyers who've chosen to defend her are keeping their damn options open.

Until Casey Anthony "frees" Morgan's client, his client is never really free of the fear of having Baez' ugly finger pointed straight at her.

I had to laugh when I used to hear folks say how Casey is the "best liar." This was at the beginning of the investigation. She's the "worst" liar, IMO. Her first lie, the lie that she is basing this entire story on about her little girl's murder, was the Zanny Lie, and it's still alive, that lie, and it's the one that's going to take her down. Because it's a really lousy lie and it can't be substantiated.

I'm waiting to see how they deal with the Zanny Lie, too. I have a feeling you'll be able to hear me laughing down here in Wisconsin, when I do.

[margaritaville]

If Cindy would have given her just one more day. :rolleyes:

Ever wonder why Casey decided to say that Caylee was missing for 31 days? Why didn't she say it just happened that day?

I mean all of her friends were told that Caylee was with the Nanny anyway...
Why not say I went to pick up Caylee "today" and she wasn't there.

Why would she tell everyone it had been 31 days and she never told a soul?
I mean really...Casey is a Great liar...why tell the truth about that??

that has never made sense to me...
It would have completely changed everything.
MOO

[ConchGirl]

911 Call http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-george-and-cindy-anthony-chase-911-call-mp3,0,5656551.mp3file George and Cindy Anthony won't face charges after two women claimed they were chased by the Anthonys.

[saywhat04]

The Nanny lie is their biggest problem. It makes every other defense scheme almost implausible.

And this is the problem that Morgan and Mitnik continue to bring up in the media: the fact that Casey Anthony will not state under oath that their client is not her Zenaida Gonzales is bothersome and troublesome to say the very least.

It means Casey Anthony and those lawyers who've chosen to defend her are keeping their damn options open.

Until Casey Anthony "frees" Morgan's client, his client is never really free of the fear of having Baez' ugly finger pointed straight at her.

I had to laugh when I used to hear folks say how Casey is the "best liar." This was at the beginning of the investigation. She's the "worst" liar, IMO. Her first lie, the lie that she is basing this entire story on about her little girl's murder, was the Zanny Lie, and it's still alive, that lie, and it's the one that's going to take her down. Because it's a really lousy lie and it can't be substantiated.

I'm waiting to see how they deal with the Zanny Lie, too. I have a feeling you'll be able to hear me laughing down here in Wisconsin, when I do.

Bolding mine.

... and she had THIRTY ONE DAYS to come up with it ... 31 days, and that's the best she could do!

A good liar? LMAO!!! :rolleyes:

[TunaMelt]

911 Call http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-george-and-cindy-anthony-chase-911-call-mp3,0,5656551.mp3file George and Cindy Anthony won't face charges after two women claimed they were chased by the Anthonys.

:huh:

I feel sorry for the cop.

[margaritaville]

:huh:

I feel sorry for the cop.


Me too.........

[desmom]

I have been going over some of the friend's statements to LE. Troy Brown did not leave for PR until July 11 because of a job interview. Troy talked to Casey on July 10 or ll about the PR trip "to see if she was still coming because she would, she never told us for sure if she wasn't going. She always continued to put it off. So I continued to ask until the day I left if she was coming or not." (page 15 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement )

Casey spent the majority of her time with Tone and rarely saw Amy, Troy and Ricardo. From their statements, it appears no one saw Casey except for when Tone went out of state. Their communications were through phone calls, text messages and or myspace. Casey's conversations usually included an invite to Fusians.

From the text messages between Amy and Casey, I think Casey was really looking forward to the PR trip. It had to be painful for Casey to watch her friends board the plane, pick them up when they came home and hear about the great time they had. Would Casey have volunteered to take Amy to the airport and pick all of them up on their return flight if Amy had not volunteered the use of her car to Casey? Did Casey considered the use of Amy's checkbook as pay back for them leaving her behind?

jmo

[Sun]

George and Cindy are very likely living in the very home where little Caylee was killed. Do you suppose that they even think about this?

[PuffDragon]

Ever wonder why Casey decided to say that Caylee was missing for 31 days? Why didn't she say it just happened that day?

I mean all of her friends were told that Caylee was with the Nanny anyway...
Why not say I went to pick up Caylee "today" and she wasn't there.

Why would she tell everyone it had been 31 days and she never told a soul?
I mean really...Casey is a Great liar...why tell the truth about that??

that has never made sense to me...
It would have completely changed everything.
MOO

Wow. Wow!! That never occurred to me. You are so right, M., why didn't she????

[saywhat04]

If I lived on their block I would set up a memorial for 31 days and would have a little counter to mark each day. At the end of those 31 days I would have a closing vigil. I would dare that wretched family to touch anything in my yard............

Ooooh. I like it. :thumbup:

[Katprint]

I agree with you. I think that's the main reason she didn't want to appear at her hearings. Why wouldn't she take every opportunity to "help" with her defense, or at a minimum, get a few hours outside the jail? Imo, because she's mortified. Think about the front she put up before Caylee's murder, and the truth of her as it is now known.
I respectfully disagree. I think Casey simply didn't want to be bothered with following the jail protocols to go to the court hearings, such as having to wake up early, eat early, shower early, get dressed in her civilian clothing, be handcuffed and shackled for transport to/from the courthouse, remain handcuffed and shackled during the court hearing, and so forth. It is a lot of extra work for the inmates to go to their court hearings. I think Casey would simply prefer to lounge about in her cell.

Also, IMO Casey still seems to have an "attitude." Cooling her heels for months on end in jail didn't prevent her from handwriting in the little jibe against the prosecutors, when she was signing her declaration concerning not having "sold her story" when the issue of how Baez was being paid came up. In the video clips of her ongoing court appearances, I am just not seeing embarrassment or mortification. What I see is toadying towards her attorneys and annoyance directed towards everybody else.

I agree that a normal person would be embarrassed and mortified to have their lying, cheating, stealing and other misconduct as exposed as Casey's has been. However, I think Casey is abnormal on a number of levels.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Sun]

Originally Posted by margaritaville
Ever wonder why Casey decided to say that Caylee was missing for 31 days? Why didn't she say it just happened that day?

I mean all of her friends were told that Caylee was with the Nanny anyway...
Why not say I went to pick up Caylee "today" and she wasn't there.

Why would she tell everyone it had been 31 days and she never told a soul?
I mean really...Casey is a Great liar...why tell the truth about that??

that has never made sense to me...
It would have completely changed everything.
MOO

LOL, it almost sounds as if Casey is counting her days of freedom, partying, stealing, playing house with Tony, etc... 31 days.

[ConchGirl]

George and Cindy are very likely living in the very home where little Caylee was killed. Do you suppose that they even think about this?
I doubt they do. Rumor has it that the Milstead's are living with them because the house is being foreclosed. Very disturbing imo

[Daffodil]

Ever wonder why Casey decided to say that Caylee was missing for 31 days? Why didn't she say it just happened that day?

I mean all of her friends were told that Caylee was with the Nanny anyway...
Why not say I went to pick up Caylee "today" and she wasn't there.

Why would she tell everyone it had been 31 days and she never told a soul?
I mean really...Casey is a Great liar...why tell the truth about that??

that has never made sense to me...
It would have completely changed everything.
MOO



Wow, I hadn't thought about that. I think she didn't do it because Cindy was bugging her everyday. I wonder if we will ever find out why all the A's said July 8th first (or was it the ninth?).

The other thing is whether or not 31 days is the truth.

Why was she counting? To see how many days she could get away with it? Remembering to say 31 days to throw LE off?

[saywhat04]

I respectfully disagree. I think Casey simply didn't want to be bothered with following the jail protocols to go to the court hearings, such as having to wake up early, eat early, shower early, get dressed in her civilian clothing, be handcuffed and shackled for transport to/from the courthouse, remain handcuffed and shackled during the court hearing, and so forth. It is a lot of extra work for the inmates to go to their court hearings. I think Casey would simply prefer to lounge about in her cell.

Also, IMO Casey still seems to have an "attitude." Cooling her heels for months on end in jail didn't prevent her from handwriting in the little jibe against the prosecutors, when she was signing her declaration concerning not having "sold her story" when the issue of how Baez was being paid came up. In the video clips of her ongoing court appearances, I am just not seeing embarrassment or mortification. What I see is toadying towards her attorneys and annoyance directed towards everybody else.

I agree that a normal person would be embarrassed and mortified to have their lying, cheating, stealing and other misconduct as exposed as Casey's has been. However, I think Casey is abnormal on a number of levels.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Okay, I can buy that.

In your experience, don't most inmates just go bonkers in their little cells, though? Or do most of them adjust as well as Casey appears to have adjusted?

[seeing_eye]

<Respectfully snipped>

The reason CIndy is upset I think is that once again they have no contact with Casey prior to court and it's looking like Casey is totally ignoring them. I think the weight of the evidence is starting to seep into their minds, George in particular. CIndy I think always had it in the back of her head that Casey had a hand in Caylee's death, accidental or otherwise. George however tried to maintain his "I'm not drawing a conclusion til all the evidence is in" posture, but when the reality hit him it hit him harder than it ever rocked Cindy. For George it was I believe, the location of Caylee's remains and the items she was found with. That brought the truth right to his heart.

IMO, both C & G knew Casey had killed Caylee while they were still at the tow yard picking up the car. Something else had them upset at the last hearing. I believe the weight of the evidence is indeed seeping into their minds. Not the evidence that proves Casey killed Caylee because they already knew that, but the evidence that shows there is a good possibility that Casey is going to be found guilty of the murder by a jury. That, IMO, is what is upsetting the Anthonys.

[Sun]

Okay, I can buy that.

In your experience, don't most inmates just go bonkers in their little cells, though? Or do most of them adjust as well as Casey appears to have adjusted?

Solitary is said to be very hard on prisoners. Casey's need for attention has to be starving. Sure wish one of the networks would publish Casey's Inmate Visitors Log from around Jan 26th through the present. I would dearly love to know if she is still receiving an abnormally high number of visits from Baez and his law firm. I would also love to know if Kasen has ever once visited Casey in the jail (he hadn't up until Jan 26th).

[seeing_eye]

I have no clue how to use this board. lol. I will learn soon enough. I noticed I put qoute under Barbra fl. Have no clue.

Practice makes perfect. We'll bear with you while you learn. :wub:

[ConchGirl]

"United States has the world’s highest incarceration rate, that with five percent of the world’s population, we jail twenty-five percent of the world’s prisoners." http://theopencase.com/columns.php?page=blog&ctitle=Rights+and+Wrongs&blog_id=17#183

[Sun]

BAEZ FILES MOTION TO POSTPONE HEARING

Late Monday afternoon, the Casey Anthony's defense team announced it filed another motion. Baez asked the court to postpone the next hearing in regards to that tape.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19694723/detail.html

[ish]

As we all sit here and write what we think the Anthony's are doing and why.
We compare Casey now to Casey 1 year ago through her weight and hair length, clothes.
We nit - pick apart every statement we hear whether it comes from an Anthony of an Attorney.
Do you ever wonder what Casey's old "friends" are saying about her?
Amy, TonE, Ricardo, Kristina, Jesse, what are they saying after seeing her at the last hearing??
They all also had a real connection with little Caylee.
Remember Tone saying that Caylee was playing with dishes in the pool yelling "look at me, look at me"...

I can't imagine how much their lives have changed. all young adults thrown into a murder trial...
A murder of a precious toddler........I couldn't imagine what they are going through!!

MOO

out of all of them I feel the most for tonE, not many young men would be able to resist the lure of easy money and not sell out to the tabloids. i think he has really handled himself well, his parents should be proud. i look forward to hearing his testimony. jesse i sympathize with also, but more for the loss of Caylee. TonE had no connection with her really so his position is different. I wonder when this is over will he go "public" or go back to his life. I'm sure he could demand a nice figure for an exclusive (after the verdict, of course)

I wonder what Casey will be thinking as all these friends take the stand and help convict her. Will she care, will she regret the way she used Amy and Jesse?

[Katprint]

Okay, I can buy that.

In your experience, don't most inmates just go bonkers in their little cells, though? Or do most of them adjust as well as Casey appears to have adjusted?

Many of my in-custody clients are housed at the lovely new Santa Rita Jail http://alamedacountysheriff.org/DC/srj_facts.htm or the not-quite-as-lovely Glenn Dyer Jail http://alamedacountysheriff.org/DC/gdj_facts.htm According to the Glenn Dyer website, the cells are a minimum of 80 square feet (equivalent to 8'x10') which is probably about the same size as an average office worker's cubicle. There are also outdoor recreation areas and indoor lounge areas.

I'm sure there is some psychological adjustment that occurs but my experience has been that most inmates seem to adjust OK. Or else the jail/courthouse staff have worked out techniques for making them behave themselves in court which is primarily where I see them for the first time (at their arraignment) if they have been in custody.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[ConchGirl]

Okay, I can buy that.

In your experience, don't most inmates just go bonkers in their little cells, though? Or do most of them adjust as well as Casey appears to have adjusted?

I just watched a show today where they said lifers will do almost anything to go to the hospital, court, etc. just for a change of scenery to get them out of their cells and their mundane existence. See the world, feel the sun. In fact, the OC mentioned to her parents in a jailhouse video how nice it was to get out of that environment. jmo

[ish]

IMO, both C & G knew Casey had killed Caylee while they were still at the tow yard picking up the car. Something else had them upset at the last hearing. I believe the weight of the evidence is indeed seeping into their minds. Not the evidence that proves Casey killed Caylee because they already knew that, but the evidence that shows there is a good possibility that Casey is going to be found guilty of the murder by a jury. That, IMO, is what is upsetting the Anthonys.

i think george knew she was dead but i think he was leaning towards accident whereas Cindy was more familiar with what Casey was capable of. The location and the duct tape and such i think told George that it was intentional. You are right also that reality is setting in, the public wants no mercy for Casey and G&C know they will have to answer the tough questions that will not be in her favor.

[bchand]

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.


I want to see her face in court as ex-friend after ex-friend testify on the stand.

[Sun]

Casey Anthony's defense team wants a judge to postpone his decision on whether to release a jail video of Anthony so they have more time to investigate media leaks by the state.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not decided if the video taken of Anthony, 23, at the Orange County Jail the day she learned the remains of a child were found near her family home. Her attorneys have accused jail officials and Orange County Sheriff's Office of setting her up.

Her defense team doesn't want the video of her in the medical facility made public. The media does and have filed legal requests. Prosecutors say they have no preference.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie. On Dec. 11, bones of the 2-year-old were found less than a mile from the east Orange County home she shared with her family.

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon asked for 60 days to look into reports of media leaks by investigators. The extra time also would allow Lyon – a death penalty attorney new to the case – to catch up on all the material.

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

Marti Mackenzie, the spokeswoman for the defense team, sent an e-mail, saying neither she nor the lawyers would comment.

"I will have nothing to say to the media until such time as deemed appropriate by Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon," she wrote.

[nothingnew]

What bills? She had free room and board. If she needed something, she would lift one of Cindy's credit cards.

jmo

No kidding! I'm not getting all of the "what about her bills" stuff either. She was hardly living the "high life" from what I have read. She never left town except for being escorted to Hawaii by her parents for her uncle's wedding. When she did steal/borrow cards she was shopping at Target, not the Bon, not Nordys-Target. As far as incidentals-she knew girls that partied. If one is sober and playing designated driver then there are ample opportunities to avail one's self of others possessions and no one is the wiser. If little things are missing then who even notices? A lot of people know "about how much" money they have on their person but unless you really are having to watch your cash flow are you going to know "I have two $5 bills, 3 singles, one $20" etc. i think she had sticky fingers and people paid her way as far as drinks and treats. If you are doing a whole lot of "nothing" then your expenses are minimal, one would think.

[ConchGirl]

In Casey's mind, she is in a suite with room service. She is the queen bee She has all those educated and important people working for her. She is in control and has power. It is all about her and not the death of her child.
Where is Lavinia when we need her? I'm sure her existence is not as glamorous as Nancy Grace portrays. Imagine no cell phone, tv or computer for 8 months. A shower every other day with no lotions and potions. No comfy bed and pillow and people can see you as you s*it. Protective custody won't protect her from other inmates screaming baby killer while she tries to sleep on her concrete slab of a bed. That's the OC's life while G & C are eating crab puffs at the Ritz. jmo Life is good. Bella Vita

[ish]

Wow, I hadn't thought about that. I think she didn't do it because Cindy was bugging her everyday. I wonder if we will ever find out why all the A's said July 8th first (or was it the ninth?).

The other thing is whether or not 31 days is the truth.

Why was she counting? To see how many days she could get away with it? Remembering to say 31 days to throw LE off?

I know I've posted this before but i still wonder, what would have happened had someone found Caylee earlier, before Cindy ever found Casey, before Caylee was ever reported missing. If a childs body had been found would Casey have come forward from her "bonding vacay" to claim her? would G&C have suspected that body was Caylee?

As far as the 31days, I think Casey started her countdown the day Caylee died and whenever she was caught or tripped up and confronted with the 'where's Caylee' question she would have used that date as her starting point and answered 31, 32, 45,78 or whatever. there is always some truth in Casey's lies.

[My Gal Sal]

Ever wonder why Casey decided to say that Caylee was missing for 31 days? Why didn't she say it just happened that day?

I mean all of her friends were told that Caylee was with the Nanny anyway...
Why not say I went to pick up Caylee "today" and she wasn't there.

Why would she tell everyone it had been 31 days and she never told a soul?
I mean really...Casey is a Great liar...why tell the truth about that??

that has never made sense to me...
It would have completely changed everything.
MOO


:thumbsup: Wow Margaritaville, That is one of the most interesting things I have heard about this case. It never occurred to me.
Why tell the truth about the 31 days? You are absolutely correct why not say it just happened today.

I think she has lied so much and so outrageously that she thought this would 'fly' too.

IMO

[PuffDragon]

Solitary is said to be very hard on prisoners. Casey's need for attention has to be starving. Sure wish one of the networks would publish Casey's Inmate Visitors Log from around Jan 26th through the present. I would dearly love to know if she is still receiving an abnormally high number of visits from Baez and his law firm. I would also love to know if Kasen has ever once visited Casey in the jail (he hadn't up until Jan 26th).

Why do you think she has a strong need for attention? I'm betting she's relaxed and enjoying being by herself and not having to put on some kind of personality for whoever she would be with. She's getting what she needs with no effort at all on her part. She may even resent it a little when she does have to motivate herself to receive company.

[ish]

In Casey's mind, she is in a suite with room service. She is the queen bee She has all those educated and important people working for her. She is in control and has power. It is all about her and not the death of her child.

and don't forget she's as much a victim as everyone else, Jose told her that...and like George Costanza says 'it's not a lie if you believe it"

she is sitting in that cell viewing herself as a wronged person, waiting to be vindicated, i doubt she will ever admit wrong doing, in the past holding on to her story has gotten her out of trouble time and again. i think she doesn't realize yet there won't be 12 cindys or georges on that jury.

[ConchGirl]

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.
Sociopaths do not feel guilt, they have ice water running through their veins. They have no shame and believe that the world has done them wrong. I'll get even mentality is the standard and I think the entire family is afflicted with the syndrome. imo

[n/t]

Why do you think she has a strong need for attention? I'm betting she's relaxed and enjoying being by herself and not having to put on some kind of personality for whoever she would be with. She's getting what she needs with no effort at all on her part. She may even resent it a little when she does have to motivate herself to receive company.


Somehow I don't see her, if given the choice, to sit it out relaxing and enjoying being by herself versus going out partying with her friends.

Afterall, isn't that why we're here? If she was a good mommy and had taken care of her little girl like a mommy should, I don't think she'd be sitting in a jail cell awaiting a murder trial.

[Pruddennce]

DICK TRACY'S QUESTION OF THE DAY -

Why is Cindy Anthony trying to keep credit card purchases made by Casey from being compromised? What purchases do you think are damning evidence that possibly have something to do with the murder?

As always, support your answer. Good luck!

as always, interesting question DT.

and it is mentioned to Tony by LE in his statement:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5686811/Casey-Anthony-Tony-Lazzaro-transcript-Sept-8-2008

they ask him what she bought WITH GRANDMAs CREDIT CARD on the 27th of June: he said he thinks shoes. He further says, she was buying something to wear to Fusion that nite. LE said there was a video at Pennys and asks TL to identify himself AND Casey in that video still.....which he does.

what LE was driving home is this: Casey abandoned her car at Amscot and went shopping with Cindy's Pennys card hours later.

interesting in and of itself, that is the only reference I have found (and I could be wrong) that a particular purchase was somewhat identified, that she DID IN FACT, physically go into the store to shop.

but more importantly:

LE mentions to Cindy during her interview they want the statements....Cindy says I checked them, nothing on them. LE states to her, we KNOW she was 'all over the place' with the Pennys card, inferring she bought quite a few things;

then: in her next breath she blames Lee for not giving them the statements because SHE was caught lying.

dangerous liar. isnt she? LE caught her. and IMO it was a test to see how cooperative she really was. they found out, well, there are probably MANY more moments in time that led them to discard her as a viable witness, she is a liar.

LE know what she bought at this juncture, for sure. and its going to come up at trial, IMO. shopping at Pennys.....on the 27th, the day the car was abandoned and everything she purchased. and going out that nite.

most notable: the 16th, caught on video hours later after the so-called abduction....RENTING MOVIES.




IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[TunaMelt]

BAEZ FILES MOTION TO POSTPONE HEARING

Late Monday afternoon, the Casey Anthony's defense team announced it filed another motion. Baez asked the court to postpone the next hearing in regards to that tape.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19694723/detail.html

Well, that really does it.

I want to know what's on that tape.

It's got to be more than KC Anthony having a meltdown as described.

Now I really really really want to see it.

:sneaky:

[ish]

No kidding! I'm not getting all of the "what about her bills" stuff either. She was hardly living the "high life" from what I have read. She never left town except for being escorted to Hawaii by her parents for her uncle's wedding. When she did steal/borrow cards she was shopping at Target, not the Bon, not Nordys-Target. As far as incidentals-she knew girls that partied. If one is sober and playing designated driver then there are ample opportunities to avail one's self of others possessions and no one is the wiser. If little things are missing then who even notices? A lot of people know "about how much" money they have on their person but unless you really are having to watch your cash flow are you going to know "I have two $5 bills, 3 singles, one $20" etc. i think she had sticky fingers and people paid her way as far as drinks and treats. If you are doing a whole lot of "nothing" then your expenses are minimal, one would think.

alot of her partying was in peoples homes. liquor is much cheaper, a keg of beer, etc plus she developed a reputation as a non drinker so perhaps she wasn't expected to contribute as much, and when her friends got drunk she could keep her "drink" topped off without their noticing.

TonE complained that she drank up a big portion of his earnings from Fusion one night i think he said $60. Going out in groups is an easy way to get your drinks paid for, head to the ladies room round the time they start ordering the second, third rounds. I have been out with plenty of people who have a great time and get drunk as a skunk and only ever pay for their first drink.

[Dick Tracy]

Nobody might agree with me but I think Casey is actually embarrassed, and feeling some small amount of shame. Mainly because she got caught lieing. Even in the jail house visits she talks about her friends knowing things aren't true. Now she knows she lost all her friends and they believe she is a huge liar, a theif, and murdered her daughter. But on the other hand she is holding on to the hope that if JB gets her off then she gets to play victim. That's why she'll never admit anything.

I agree with you. She's totally embarassed. Absolutely. Not only did she get caught lying about things (which isn't her main problems because they all knew she was a habitual liar), and her plan B was blown, whatever that was.

She knows down the road, that her FRIENDS will take the stand against her, and the truth will be exposed to the galaxy.

I love it.

[TearyThunder]

:huh:

I feel sorry for the cop.

Me too, and the poor 911 operator.

[PuffDragon]

Somehow I don't see her, if given the choice, to sit it out relaxing and enjoying being by herself versus going out partying with her friends.

Afterall, isn't that why we're here? If she was a good mommy and had taken care of her little girl like a mommy should, I don't think she'd be sitting in a jail cell awaiting a murder trial.

She's a chameleon, n/t, she adapts to her surroundings. The crowd she was hanging around with was into partying so she was into partying. Remember Jesse said that was new behavior, before she got with Amy and Ricardo and the rest of that group she was the perfect mother/homebody. And when she was alone with TonE she cooked and cleaned and washed clothes....... she had no personality of her own, she became what others wanted her to be. The trouble was, when her act, whichever one it was, began to wear thin she had to find a new crowd and start again. It's possible she was beginning to get tired of it all. Or careless. Or maybe since it always worked she thought she was invulnerable. But one thing she wasn't, she wasn't a real person. Everybody has a different description of her. For whatever reason, she's the only one who knows who she is.

[Sun]

Why do you think she has a strong need for attention? I'm betting she's relaxed and enjoying being by herself and not having to put on some kind of personality for whoever she would be with. She's getting what she needs with no effort at all on her part. She may even resent it a little when she does have to motivate herself to receive company.

Casey was clearly not content to sit at the Anthony home. She instead created ridiculous stories just to get out of the home, and to be able to visit folks and go partying. She wanted attention. She "dressed" in ways that would call attention to her. She strutted. She went shopping. She spent time with quite a number of men in a short number of months. She WANTED attention. No doubt in my mind.

You are right though, that she may not want the type of attention that the public is giving her right now. Perhaps she now does want to just hide in her cell. I just can't get my mind to work like hers does. Thank the Lord!

[nothingnew]

EXCEPT they have pictures of the Milstead's with their strobes on, following them.

Why are the Milsteads getting a free pass?

Well if it's true that the milsteads had the strobe AND this was visible to that "trooper" then I'm of the opinion that Florida really is hell and the cops are lazy as sin and incompetent. After officer cain and his impotent performance you would think that LE down there would be sure they are actually doing the JOB that they are being paid for-protecting the public and upholding justice. If no one in Florida is going to actually hold them to even this basic standard when it is under the spotlight well that just makes me even more grateful that I do not live there and never had any reason to step foot in that place. Sorry if that's offensive to any posters in or from Florida but it really does just stand out in the bizarre behaviour department.

[TunaMelt]

No kidding! I'm not getting all of the "what about her bills" stuff either. She was hardly living the "high life" from what I have read. She never left town except for being escorted to Hawaii by her parents for her uncle's wedding. When she did steal/borrow cards she was shopping at Target, not the Bon, not Nordys-Target. As far as incidentals-she knew girls that partied. If one is sober and playing designated driver then there are ample opportunities to avail one's self of others possessions and no one is the wiser. If little things are missing then who even notices? A lot of people know "about how much" money they have on their person but unless you really are having to watch your cash flow are you going to know "I have two $5 bills, 3 singles, one $20" etc. i think she had sticky fingers and people paid her way as far as drinks and treats. If you are doing a whole lot of "nothing" then your expenses are minimal, one would think.

Hawaii?
I didn't think it was in Hawaii.
More like South Carolina, that little island thing down there I can't think of the name right now.
:confused:

ETA: Myrtle Beach

[101Spots]

:thumbsup: Wow Margaritaville, That is one of the most interesting things I have heard about this case. It never occurred to me.
Why tell the truth about the 31 days? You are absolutely correct why not say it just happened today.

I think she has lied so much and so outrageously that she thought this would 'fly' too.

IMO

"It happened today" would mean that the cops would be immediately in hyper-warp drive to find Caylee. There would (should) have been obvious clues, Amber Alert, etc.

"It happened 31 days ago" provided a buffer and an excuse why there was no evidence.

[Pruddennce]

alot of her partying was in peoples homes. liquor is much cheaper, a keg of beer, etc plus she developed a reputation as a non drinker so perhaps she wasn't expected to contribute as much, and when her friends got drunk she could keep her "drink" topped off without their noticing.

TonE complained that she drank up a big portion of his earnings from Fusion one night i think he said $60. Going out in groups is an easy way to get your drinks paid for, head to the ladies room round the time they start ordering the second, third rounds. I have been out with plenty of people who have a great time and get drunk as a skunk and only ever pay for their first drink.

yes, Tony said she went overboard. he wasnt happy about it. IMO, casey was stealing from patrons.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Sun]

Well, that really does it.

I want to know what's on that tape.

It's got to be more than KC Anthony having a meltdown as described.

Now I really really really want to see it.

:sneaky:

At first, I was more than satisfied with just the LE/interviews of Unser and Richardson. Then as Baez decided to fight the video's release, he deposed Unser and Richardson, and those depos were released to the public. I now want to also see the video, if for no other reason than the fact that Casey/Baez don't want me to see it.

[ConchGirl]

as always, interesting question DT.

and it is mentioned to Tony by LE in his statement:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5686811/Casey-Anthony-Tony-Lazzaro-transcript-Sept-8-2008

they ask him what she bought WITH GRANDMAs CREDIT CARD on the 27th of June: he said he thinks shoes. He further says, she was buying something to wear to Fusion that nite. LE said there was a video at Pennys and asks TL to identify himself AND Casey in that video still.....which he does.

what LE was driving home is this: Casey abandoned her car at Amscot and went shopping with Cindy's Pennys card hours later.

interesting in and of itself, that is the only reference I have found (and I could be wrong) that a particular purchase was somewhat identified, that she DID IN FACT, physically go into the store to shop.

but more importantly:

LE mentions to Cindy during her interview they want the statements....Cindy says I checked them, nothing on them. LE states to her, we KNOW she was 'all over the place' with the Pennys card, inferring she bought quite a few things;

then: in her next breath she blames Lee for not giving them the statements because SHE was caught lying.

dangerous liar. isnt she? LE caught her. and IMO it was a test to see how cooperative she really was. they found out, well, there are probably MANY more moments in time that led them to discard her as a viable witness, she is a liar.

LE know what she bought at this juncture, for sure. and its going to come up at trial, IMO. shopping at Pennys.....on the 27th, the day the car was abandoned and everything she purchased. and going out that nite.

most notable: the 16th, caught on video hours later after the so-called abduction....RENTING MOVIES.


IMO

best regards,
Pru
*waiting on maggot evidence....*
Bolding is mine. That and the 31 days will be the death of her imo. Does anyone else find it note worthy that GA had the almost suicide after the duct tape, heart and laundry bag docs were released. IMO he knew for sure that Casey did it and it overwhelmed him. He emerged a stronger man as evidenced by the so called memorial where he begged people to write Casey. I for one am happy that Caylee was found so we don't have to listen to the A's talk about sightings anymore. IMO they knew the sightings were bogus after the air and hair discovery but they were on a mission to protect the killer.
The A's have no business in the missing children cause and need to join a group called "Parents of Children who kill their children" Believe it or not they are not alone.

[TunaMelt]

At first, I was more than satisfied with just the LE/interviews of Unser and Richardson. Then as Baez decided to fight the video's release, he deposed Unser and Richardson, and those depos were released to the public. I now want to also see the video, if for no other reason than the fact that Casey/Baez don't want me to see it.

:thumbsup:

That, too.
:sneaky:

[My Gal Sal]

"It happened today" would mean that the cops would be immediately in hyper-warp drive to find Caylee. There would (should) have been obvious clues, Amber Alert, etc.

"It happened 31 days ago" provided a buffer and an excuse why there was no evidence.

Thank You Spots, I knew someone would have a good explanation. That makes sense to me now too. :thumbsup:
I have never been able to lie, (not very good at it) so it is all so foreign to me.

[TunaMelt]

Bolding is mine. That and the 31 days will be the death of her imo. Does anyone else find it note worthy that GA had the almost suicide after the duct tape, heart and laundry bag docs were released. IMO he knew for sure that Casey did it and it overwhelmed him. He emerged a stronger man as evidenced by the so called memorial where he begged people to write Casey. I for one am happy that Caylee was found so we don't have to listen to the A's talk about sightings anymore. IMO they knew the sightings were bogus after the air and hair discovery but they were on a mission to protect the killer.
The A's have no business in the missing children cause and need to join a group called "Parents of Children who kill their children" Believe it or not they are not alone.

I have a problem with George 'emerging a stronger man.'

If he had, he'd be telling everything he knows to LE, and he'd stop associating with KidFinders, and he'd not give one good god damn what that shrew he married had to say about it.

That would be a strong man.

George is still a lazy, lying wimp, IMO. And he'll never kill himself, he's a drama queen as bad as is his wife.

:mellow:

[PuffDragon]

Casey was clearly not content to sit at the Anthony home. She instead created ridiculous stories just to get out of the home, and to be able to visit folks and go partying. She wanted attention. She "dressed" in ways that would call attention to her. She strutted. She went shopping. She spent time with quite a number of men in a short number of months. She WANTED attention. No doubt in my mind.

You are right though, that she may not want the type of attention that the public is giving her right now. Perhaps she now does want to just hide in her cell. I just can't get my mind to work like hers does. Thank the Lord!

*Bolding mine

I can get my mind to see into hers because I've known people like Casey. Plenty of them. There are telltale signs that someone is a sociopath, and once you know the signs you can always see them. Someone like Casey doesn't care about others except how they can be used for her own advantage. You just can't assume what she is thinking by what she is doing, you have to figure it out by what she gains from what she is doing. Of course she wasn't going to sit around the Anthony home every night. She couldn't get anything from her parents by doing that. She needed to be in the company of people who could get her what she wanted, one way or another, whatever - or whoever - she had to become to make it happen.

For somebody like that, it's a vacation to drop the personna and adjust to the new environment, even if it is a solitary jail cell.

[PuffDragon]

"It happened today" would mean that the cops would be immediately in hyper-warp drive to find Caylee. There would (should) have been obvious clues, Amber Alert, etc.

"It happened 31 days ago" provided a buffer and an excuse why there was no evidence.

*Bolding mine

Not necessarily, 101. She'd already told everybody that Caylee was with the nanny most of the time. She hadn't seen her but she knew the nanny had her. So the story could easily have been, "The nanny kept making excuses and when I finally pinned her down she admitted that she had lost Caylee." She wouldn't have had to admit to anything except that she had faith in the nanny. And the police would have gone off on the same wild goose chases that they did anyway.

[Dick Tracy]

Well, that really does it.

I want to know what's on that tape.

It's got to be more than KC Anthony having a meltdown as described.

Now I really really really want to see it.

:sneaky:

Postpone the hearing ? You have to be kidding to me. That is not going to fly with Judge Strickland. Postpone it until when?

That hand on her butt is going to slap him in the face.

[ConchGirl]

I have a problem with George 'emerging a stronger man.'

If he had, he'd be telling everything he knows to LE, and he'd stop associating with KidFinders, and he'd not give one good god damn what that shrew he married had to say about it.

That would be a strong man.

George is still a lazy, lying wimp, IMO. And he'll never kill himself, he's a drama queen as bad as is his wife.

:mellow:
Okay, I take back the stronger man. My fingers were out of control. :D

[Pruddennce]

Bolding is mine. That and the 31 days will be the death of her imo. Does anyone else find it note worthy that GA had the almost suicide after the duct tape, heart and laundry bag docs were released. IMO he knew for sure that Casey did it and it overwhelmed him. He emerged a stronger man as evidenced by the so called memorial where he begged people to write Casey. I for one am happy that Caylee was found so we don't have to listen to the A's talk about sightings anymore. IMO they knew the sightings were bogus after the air and hair discovery but they were on a mission to protect the killer.
The A's have no business in the missing children cause and need to join a group called "Parents of Children who kill their children" Believe it or not they are not alone.

IMO, he is a parasite. he was playing LE and the detectives. he wanted badly to be recognized as their peer, doing the 'oh so humble act, Im just a grandfather now'...all an act to get information about the investigation. at one point he states he wants to be notified first "if something' to prepare Cindy....he really believed he was on 'their level'....

he told the truth about Casey and the thefts that HE knew of, but underneath those statements, IMO, was GA's need to diminish his own fraudulent activities (Per Cindy's mother, he got the family in debt, by obtaining cc's in Cindy's name to pay off ANOTHER DEBT...thats FRAUD). he felt at ease giving them tidbits about casey, to steer LE away from inquiring about HIM in the investigation. IMO

he got away with consequences because Cindy didnt report him. she could have had her debt wiped out on those cards if she reported him.

she didnt want the Bubble House disturbed.....no one is held accountable for bad behaviour IF there is a chance someone might find out. WHICH WAS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE TOGETHER, and at present.

GA went on national tv over and over again and dissed LE and everything he said on tape that was released, he denied it by saying the opposite, IT WAS GARBAGE.

strong man? a strong man would have left that poisonous home after his interviews with LE (and in one of his interviews he told LE not to tell his wife and son he was there talking to them).....

GA is here today with Cindy, went on tv spewing lies along with her AFTER their interviews were released, *the duh factor* as if there isnt a soul in the world who heard the interview tapes.....

George is still there because he is PART of the poison. a STRONG component of the poison.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[nothingnew]

Ok lets get opinions on why Casey is mad at her parents. Is there still a bond set at half a million? Maybe she thinks they could raise the money if they really tried. Or I think she's mad cos they get to go on T.V. and go on trips. In her mind they got a better life and she has none.

First off-IS Casey mad at her parents? She's in jail and the only person I have heard say that there is contact between her and the parents is cindy. cindy lies as much if not even more than her demon spawn. cindy is dying (not literally:sad:) to have her celebrity status reinstated. Larry King outed her for the liar she is (weird!), Oprah made a stab at her with the word "integrity" and all of the cameras have gone away from in front of her little den of thieves, losers, liars and bears. I think casey is enjoying her vacation and off in her own weird, little world. I just do not see her giving a care about george and cindy one way or another, especially when it seems the money has dried up for them and they are aging with so little grace. just my opinion-I sure don't want to get too deep in any of their heads and I sure as hell would never make eye contact.

[Sun]

Postpone the hearing ? You have to be kidding to me. That is not going to fly with Judge Strickland. Postpone it until when?

That hand on her butt is going to slap him in the face.

Casey Anthony's defense team wants a judge to postpone his decision on whether to release a jail video of Anthony so they have more time to investigate media leaks by the state.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not decided if the video taken of Anthony, 23, at the Orange County Jail the day she learned the remains of a child were found near her family home. Her attorneys have accused jail officials and Orange County Sheriff's Office of setting her up.

Her defense team doesn't want the video of her in the medical facility made public. The media does and have filed legal requests. Prosecutors say they have no preference.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie. On Dec. 11, bones of the 2-year-old were found less than a mile from the east Orange County home she shared with her family.

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon asked for 60 days to look into reports of media leaks by investigators. The extra time also would allow Lyon – a death penalty attorney new to the case – to catch up on all the material.

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

Marti Mackenzie, the spokeswoman for the defense team, sent an e-mail, saying neither she nor the lawyers would comment.

"I will have nothing to say to the media until such time as deemed appropriate by Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon," she wrote.

[Chardonnay]

Anybody know what day the PRP went to Jesse's house to use his shower? That was a LKL: Weird, thing to do.

[Dick Tracy]

I'm going to disagree with you, Detective Tracy. I agree more with our legal eagle. Personally, it's my opinion that Casey is a sociopath and they are never sorry about anything they did. They are only sorry that they got caught and it's inconvenient to them.

You got that right to disagree. However embarassment is one thing; truly being sorry is another. She's not sorry.

In no way, did I say she was SORRY for what she did. She's totally embarassed that her cover got blown is more like it. She couldn't shift into her plan b, which I think was head west to Californina.

To Casey, IMO what was most important to her was her image To her, her image was everything. She portrayed herself as being a corner office worker at Universal Studios. Who could telecommute from home at her leisure. Someone who had a NANNY and paid her well. All that has been blown and exposed.

[PuffDragon]

I'm going to disagree with you, Detective Tracy. I agree more with our legal eagle. Personally, it's my opinion that Casey is a sociopath and they are never sorry about anything they did. They are only sorry that they got caught and it's inconvenient to them.

ITA Blackbird. Not sorry, not embarrassed, not responsible. She didn't do anything wrong, she can rest easy because she knows it's not her fault. It's all about the others who are all out to 'pin it on' her.

The worst of it is, in her own head it's true. If she were to take a lie detector test she would pass, because she believes it. The episodes of nightmare were her subconscious trying to make a statement; it got overruled and gave up and went away. Now she can rest easy knowing that she only did what she had to do for her own psyche's survival. It wasn't her fault, all her life she only did what she had to do.

[101Spots]

*Bolding mine

Not necessarily, 101. She'd already told everybody that Caylee was with the nanny most of the time. She hadn't seen her but she knew the nanny had her. So the story could easily have been, "The nanny kept making excuses and when I finally pinned her down she admitted that she had lost Caylee." She wouldn't have had to admit to anything except that she had faith in the nanny. And the police would have gone off on the same wild goose chases that they did anyway.

But if the nanny had lost Caylee, the cops would expect to talk to the nanny, whom Casey must have seen/heard from recently to get the news. Also, she was having to cough up a scenario in front of George and Cindy, who had been on the other end of the excuses for 31 days. Her story would have to take into account what G&C knew *and* cover the whole missing Caylee annoyance.

Sometimes I think we over-analyze all the tiny details. I believe Casey is dumb as a rock and she thought this 31 day excuse would be accepted without question. Amy accepted that she hid her own money while she was sleepwalking - it's not much of a leap to think that the cops would accept the nanny story.

[Dick Tracy]

Anybody know what day the PRP went to Jesse's house to use his shower? That was a LKL: Weird, thing to do.

July 1. She arrives at 10:39am to take a shower at Jesse Grund's apartment.

[Chardonnay]

July 1. She arrives at 10:39am to take a shower at Jesse Grund's apartment.

Thanks DT..

[Pruddennce]

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon asked for 60 days to look into reports of media leaks by investigators. The extra time also would allow Lyon – a death penalty attorney new to the case – to catch up on all the material.

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

respectfully snipped.....

thats laughable....'close to the investigation' could mean the defense's own campground......maybe if Cindy had not had a brain backfire and forwarded a compromising email to Kathy B in the media by mistake, that particular LEAK would not have sprung....lol

never heard another word about THE HACKER JOB.....

Cindy is a liar.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[101Spots]

911 Call http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-george-and-cindy-anthony-chase-911-call-mp3,0,5656551.mp3file George and Cindy Anthony won't face charges after two women claimed they were chased by the Anthonys.

Weird.

When I clicked on this link, I got the audio OK. At the top of the page is an ad for personalized m&ms. It shows one candy that says, "Casey's Our Girl," the next shows a picture that sure looks like PRP, the next says, "Happy Birthday," then there's one with just an "m."

I'm going to get my clove of garlic. BRB.....

[Pruddennce]

But if the nanny had lost Caylee, the cops would expect to talk to the nanny, whom Casey must have seen/heard from recently to get the news. Also, she was having to cough up a scenario in front of George and Cindy, who had been on the other end of the excuses for 31 days. Her story would have to take into account what G&C knew *and* cover the whole missing Caylee annoyance.

Sometimes I think we over-analyze all the tiny details. I believe Casey is dumb as a rock and she thought this 31 day excuse would be accepted without question. Amy accepted that she hid her own money while she was sleepwalking - it's not much of a leap to think that the cops would accept the nanny story.

IMO, Casey wasnt expecting to present the story to LE...it was a story for her family's ears. Cindy was stalling. then the last call: listen to 911....she is bored having to talk about what happened to her daughter.

bored, because the situation was supposed to be a private torture chamber for Cindy.

but I do agree with you about over-analyzing....IMO its a simple case of psycho vs psycho....and this child lost her life because of their preoccupation with hate for one another. their behaviour on the first jailhouse call sealed my IMO on these two......

their hatred for one another took precedent.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[PuffDragon]

But if the nanny had lost Caylee, the cops would expect to talk to the nanny, whom Casey must have seen/heard from recently to get the news. Also, she was having to cough up a scenario in front of George and Cindy, who had been on the other end of the excuses for 31 days. Her story would have to take into account what G&C knew *and* cover the whole missing Caylee annoyance.

Sometimes I think we over-analyze all the tiny details. I believe Casey is dumb as a rock and she thought this 31 day excuse would be accepted without question. Amy accepted that she hid her own money while she was sleepwalking - it's not much of a leap to think that the cops would accept the nanny story.

This is now, that was then. Her behavior in that month before could not possibly be interpreted as 'looking for Caylee' but made sense in the context of a mother having a vacation because her baby was being looked after by a trusted nanny. At least, it made sense superficially, more than the story she actually came up with. The rest of it would have emerged anyway when the nanny couldn't be tracked down, and the end result would probably have been the same, but just for that moment, "The nanny lost Caylee and I didn't find out about it until today" makes a better story than "The nanny didn't show up at the house..... uh, I mean abducted and accosted us in the park...... uh, I mean, gave me a script to follow for 31 days....uh.....".

I agree that Casey is 'dumb as a rock', but maybe not exactly the way you mean. I see her as somebody who is so convinced she can snow everybody that she doesn't cover her tracks at all or expect to need to make good plans. Again, she doesn't think into the future because she never had to. For that, and because she has no sense of what others are really feeling, she's dumb. I don't think her IQ is relevant to her behavior because she's missing the ability to use her brain in a socially acceptable way.

[ConchGirl]

ITA Blackbird. Not sorry, not embarrassed, not responsible. She didn't do anything wrong, she can rest easy because she knows it's not her fault. It's all about the others who are all out to 'pin it on' her.

The worst of it is, in her own head it's true. If she were to take a lie detector test she would pass, because she believes it. The episodes of nightmare were her subconscious trying to make a statement; it got overruled and gave up and went away. Now she can rest easy knowing that she only did what she had to do for her own psyche's survival. It wasn't her fault, all her life she only did what she had to do.
Do you mean the forces are out to get her. :ohmy:

[PuffDragon]

Do you mean the forces are out to get her. :ohmy:

I know your tongue is probably stuck in your cheek, Conch, :wink: but in a way, yes, that's probably close to the truth. Somebody like Casey would always have to be on the alert to keep the forces at bay. You know, those deadly forces that were always trying to unmask her or to confront her with a situation that she wouldn't be able to deal with. It's exhausting, actually, always watching her back to protect the person that's inside her costume.

[nothingnew]

Hawaii?
I didn't think it was in Hawaii.
More like South Carolina, that little island thing down there I can't think of the name right now.
:confused:

ETA: Myrtle Beach

What the heck? Why was I thinking Hawaii? I kind of knew he lived in Myrtle Beach now but in the back of my head I always thought the wedding was in Hawaii. That's a good sign though, right? My brain has not been taken over by those ants.:smile:

[Lavinia]

I agree with you. She's totally embarassed. Absolutely. Not only did she get caught lying about things (which isn't her main problems because they all knew she was a habitual liar), and her plan B was blown, whatever that was.

She knows down the road, that her FRIENDS will take the stand against her, and the truth will be exposed to the galaxy.

I love it.

Au contraire mon frere! I don't think you will find an embarrassed bone in her body. It will always be someone else's fault or some type of justification. Remember, she will lie, cheat and steal to get her daughter back. :rolleyes: The devil made her do it.

[Lavinia]

Where is Lavinia when we need her? I'm sure her existence is not as glamorous as Nancy Grace portrays. Imagine no cell phone, tv or computer for 8 months. A shower every other day with no lotions and potions. No comfy bed and pillow and people can see you as you s*it. Protective custody won't protect her from other inmates screaming baby killer while she tries to sleep on her concrete slab of a bed. That's the OC's life while G & C are eating crab puffs at the Ritz. jmo Life is good. Bella Vita

You got it ConchGirl! She can probably get cocoa butter or something similar at commissary right now, but if she acts out, they won't let her get that. Sometimes when an inmate needs an extraction team to remove them from their cell, the inmate will grease themselves up with lotion or chapstick, ointments, etc., so it will be more difficult for the team to get a grip on the old greased pig. Protective custody isn't foolproof, either. It's safer than gen pop but those little rascals are always scheming and if they really want someone, they'll get 'em.

Oh how I wish ya'll could work a week at a max. prison, except I think it would be very damaging to most. It's just one of those things that no one can ever fully describe without living it.

[PuffDragon]

IMO, Casey wasnt expecting to present the story to LE...it was a story for her family's ears. Cindy was stalling. then the last call: listen to 911....she is bored having to talk about what happened to her daughter.

bored, because the situation was supposed to be a private torture chamber for Cindy.

but I do agree with you about over-analyzing....IMO its a simple case of psycho vs psycho....and this child lost her life because of their preoccupation with hate for one another. their behaviour on the first jailhouse call sealed my IMO on these two......

their hatred for one another took precedent.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

*Bolding mine

I agree with that. Casey never thought it would go anywhere. Caylee was gone, she was history, I'll tell Mom the story and she'll swallow that and we'll go on. More evidence that Casey didn't understand how other people related to each other. She totally underestimated Cindy's connection to Caylee and how it was going to affect her reaction to the news. I'll bet she was totally surprised when Cindy fell apart and it suddenly became a huge issue.

Cindy may hate Casey but I don't think Casey hates Cindy. Sociopaths don't hate. I think Cindy was in Casey's way. The only time Casey really 'lost it' when when she admitted to frustration. I don't believe much of what Casey ever said but when she said she was frustrated, in that jailhouse video, she did act like she was frustrated, and for that once I believed her. When thwarted she got frustrated. From Cindy's reaction Casey must have been frustrated often because Cindy jumped right into placating mode. Makes me wonder what the consequences to the family were when Casey got frustrated.

[Lavinia]

Do you mean the forces are out to get her. :ohmy:

Those darn forces are making me shop too much lately. :sneaky:

O/T, but I'm supposed to have shoulder surgery this Fri. Wanna' take bets on whether I cancel/postpone it? :laugh:

[PuffDragon]

Those darn forces are making me shop too much lately. :sneaky:

O/T, but I'm supposed to have shoulder surgery this Fri. Wanna' take bets on whether I cancel/postpone it? :laugh:

O/T also, Lavinia, but if you need the surgery I hope you go through with it and get it over with.

[Lavinia]

Have it done now before the summer months get too hot.

Blackbird, you and Puff are right, of course. I'm just a procrastinator deluxe, even on fun stuff. I shouldn't have gone off topic, I don't want to get in trouble. :chicken: Thanks for thinking of me though. :wub:

[Chardonnay]

"Why do they want to talk to meeeeeeeee?"

I give Kudos to the 911 operator in asking to speak to KC... If she didn't, we'd never know this reaction.. Good for trial..

[farrahrani]

ITA Blackbird. Not sorry, not embarrassed, not responsible. She didn't do anything wrong, she can rest easy because she knows it's not her fault. It's all about the others who are all out to 'pin it on' her.

The worst of it is, in her own head it's true. If she were to take a lie detector test she would pass, because she believes it. The episodes of nightmare were her subconscious trying to make a statement; it got overruled and gave up and went away. Now she can rest easy knowing that she only did what she had to do for her own psyche's survival. It wasn't her fault, all her life she only did what she had to do.

I'm going to respectfully disagree with some of this. She is NOT living in an alternate reality, she is aware of what's going on. I think she really does blame everyone for what happened, at least in her own head.

If Cindy hadn't started that fight, such and such wouldn't have have happened with Caylee and she'd be alive.

If I hadn't been cut off from my families' credit cards, I wouldn't have had to get cash from Amy.

If I hadn't been reported to the police and they let me handle it with them I wouldn't have been arrested on those pesky fraud charges

And it goes on and on, I'm sure. But whatever else, even though she blames others, she knows its her own hands that brought about her daughter's death, and that is one thing she will never get past a lie detector.

[desmom]

I respectfully disagree. I think Casey simply didn't want to be bothered with following the jail protocols to go to the court hearings, such as having to wake up early, eat early, shower early, get dressed in her civilian clothing, be handcuffed and shackled for transport to/from the courthouse, remain handcuffed and shackled during the court hearing, and so forth. It is a lot of extra work for the inmates to go to their court hearings. I think Casey would simply prefer to lounge about in her cell.

Also, IMO Casey still seems to have an "attitude." Cooling her heels for months on end in jail didn't prevent her from handwriting in the little jibe against the prosecutors, when she was signing her declaration concerning not having "sold her story" when the issue of how Baez was being paid came up. In the video clips of her ongoing court appearances, I am just not seeing embarrassment or mortification. What I see is toadying towards her attorneys and annoyance directed towards everybody else.

I agree that a normal person would be embarrassed and mortified to have their lying, cheating, stealing and other misconduct as exposed as Casey's has been. However, I think Casey is abnormal on a number of levels.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Oh I think you really nailed it in your lst paragraph.

[PuffDragon]

I'm going to respectfully disagree with some of this. She is NOT living in an alternate reality, she is aware of what's going on. I think she really does blame everyone for what happened, at least in her own head.

If Cindy hadn't started that fight, such and such wouldn't have have happened with Caylee and she'd be alive.

If I hadn't been cut off from my families' credit cards, I wouldn't have had to get cash from Amy.

If I hadn't been reported to the police and they let me handle it with them I wouldn't have been arrested on those pesky fraud charges

And it goes on and on, I'm sure. But whatever else, even though she blames others, she knows its her own hands that brought about her daughter's death, and that is one thing she will never get past a lie detector.

I agree completely. I didn't mean to sound like I thought she lived in an alternate reality or wasn't aware of what she did. It isn't that she doesn't know what she did, but that it wasn't a bad thing for her to do because it was for the survival of the 'real' Casey, and that's so important it overrides everything else. If she had to do something, anything, bad, it wasn't her fault because others put her in a position to make her have to do it. She could pass a lie detector because when push comes to shove she wasn't responsible, no matter what she actually did. In her own mind.

I think in this case Caylee made her do it because Caylee was suddenly a threat to the lifestyle that Casey had worked so hard to construct.

[Dick Tracy]

Au contraire mon frere! I don't think you will find an embarrassed bone in her body. It will always be someone else's fault or some type of justification. Remember, she will lie, cheat and steal to get her daughter back. :rolleyes: The devil made her do it.

Impossible!

Sur la contraire, l'IMAGE est tout! Maintenant elle n'a personne "one-up". Si elle n'était pas embarrassée, elle ne se soucierait guère au sujet de ce que les médias avaient indiqué au sujet de elle. Convenez-vous ?


(On the contrary, IMAGE is everything. Now she has no one to "one-up". If she wasn't embarassed, she wouldn't give a damn about what the media had said about her. Do you agree?)

That was fun!

[Pruddennce]

*Bolding mine

I agree with that. Casey never thought it would go anywhere. Caylee was gone, she was history, I'll tell Mom the story and she'll swallow that and we'll go on. More evidence that Casey didn't understand how other people related to each other. She totally underestimated Cindy's connection to Caylee and how it was going to affect her reaction to the news. I'll bet she was totally surprised when Cindy fell apart and it suddenly became a huge issue.

Cindy may hate Casey but I don't think Casey hates Cindy. Sociopaths don't hate. I think Cindy was in Casey's way. The only time Casey really 'lost it' when when she admitted to frustration. I don't believe much of what Casey ever said but when she said she was frustrated, in that jailhouse video, she did act like she was frustrated, and for that once I believed her. When thwarted she got frustrated. From Cindy's reaction Casey must have been frustrated often because Cindy jumped right into placating mode. Makes me wonder what the consequences to the family were when Casey got frustrated.

ditto that Puff.....my bold....

we saw the 'confined' 'handcuffed' frustrated Casey.....imagine her free...those fists.....I truly believe she slapped Caylee around in front of her mother, a squeeze, a threat, a push.....Cindy knew what she was capable of and when she exited the home with Caylee, for the last time: that is what Cindy is withholding, she didnt make any attempt to stop her....

she could have called 911 for a welfare check immediately, reporting the mindsight of her daughter when she left....she ignored it, as she normally did....kiss kiss, then back to degrading Casey about her deficiencies...

this time Casey didnt buy into the kiss kiss....she had events to attend, and was not going to have to kiss up to her mother anymore if Caylee was no more....take Caylee out of the equation, she took her mother out of it as well...

the history of calls to that home: a stolen vehicle in 6/06? who stole a vehicle? april and May 05, disturbance and verbal calls?

an endless cycle which provoked this outcome.....Cindy is covering for her OWN deficiency....

if there was ever a time to call 911, it was at the towyard. carseat abandoned since June 27th child backpack, babydoll.....a vehicle they thought their daughter NEEDED to transport their grandchild in.....

that was the time. the smell, the maggots and the flys. Caylee's voice never heard again by them...GA lamenting and expressing concern to the towyard employee, Cindy enraged about the cost.....its all UNBELIEVABLE these people didnt call 911....as in HELP! this is scary, we are afraid, help us find Casey. we need a welfare check.

IMO, there would have been a very different outcome if LE was called to the towyard. a different story. and additional evidence that was NOT compromised.

despicable.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[desmom]

Why do you think she has a strong need for attention? I'm betting she's relaxed and enjoying being by herself and not having to put on some kind of personality for whoever she would be with. She's getting what she needs with no effort at all on her part. She may even resent it a little when she does have to motivate herself to receive company.

I agree. I think she is relaxing and planning her future with JB after he gets her off...Together they will do GMA, Geraldo, Today Show, Geraldo, Larry King, Geraldo, Oprah, Geraldo... :tonguewag: Then the book deals and movie rights.....of course, jmo.