June 8, 9

[desmom]

Why do you think she has a strong need for attention? I'm betting she's relaxed and enjoying being by herself and not having to put on some kind of personality for whoever she would be with. She's getting what she needs with no effort at all on her part. She may even resent it a little when she does have to motivate herself to receive company.

I agree. I think she is relaxing and planning her future with JB after he gets her off...Together they will do GMA, Geraldo, Today Show, Geraldo, Larry King, Geraldo, Oprah, Geraldo... :tonguewag: Then the book deals and movie rights.....of course, jmo.

[PuffDragon]

ditto that Puff.....my bold....

we saw the 'confined' 'handcuffed' frustrated Casey.....imagine her free...those fists.....I truly believe she slapped Caylee around in front of her mother, a squeeze, a threat, a push.....Cindy knew what she was capable of and when she exited the home with Caylee, for the last time: that is what Cindy is withholding, she didnt make any attempt to stop her....

she could have called 911 for a welfare check immediately, reporting the mindsight of her daughter when she left....she ignored it, as she normally did....kiss kiss, then back to degrading Casey about her deficiencies...

this time Casey didnt buy into the kiss kiss....she had events to attend, and was not going to have to kiss up to her mother anymore if Caylee was no more....take Caylee out of the equation, she took her mother out of it as well...

the history of calls to that home: a stolen vehicle in 6/06? who stole a vehicle? april and May 05, disturbance and verbal calls?

an endless cycle which provoked this outcome.....Cindy is covering for her OWN deficiency....

if there was ever a time to call 911, it was at the towyard. carseat abandoned since June 27th child backpack, babydoll.....a vehicle they thought their daughter NEEDED to transport their grandchild in.....

that was the time. the smell, the maggots and the flys. Caylee's voice never heard again by them...GA lamenting and expressing concern to the towyard employee, Cindy enraged about the cost.....its all UNBELIEVABLE these people didnt call 911....as in HELP! this is scary, we are afraid, help us find Casey. we need a welfare check.

IMO, there would have been a very different outcome if LE was called to the towyard. a different story. and additional evidence that was NOT compromised.

despicable.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

*Bolding to address:

One thing though, Pru. Casey slapping Caylee around might have been the one thing that would have set Cindy into protecting Caylee. It probably would have opened her eyes and set the machine into gear to take custody. I don't think Casey would have gambled with that. That's JMO but as dense as Casey was she had to have realized that she could lose Caylee if she hurt her in front of Cindy. Cindy had already accused her of being a bad mother and it sounds like had put some thought into getting custody. Physical abuse would have given her the ammunition.

The rest...... I simply can not get into Cindy and George's head, they went to get the car and then..... what could they possibly have been thinking???? So used to covering for Casey, believing her stories, keeping the peace, that they wanted time to think it over, put it in the 'it's okay' column even though the truth was obvious??? I understand Casey, I know many Caseys, and I understand some of what probably started Cindy and George along the road that led to where they are now, but I just can't rationalize, with their backgrounds, not acknowledging what was right in their faces at that towyard. If they had, how differently this story might have been played out!

[Lavinia]

Impossible!

Sur la contraire, l'IMAGE est tout! Maintenant elle n'a personne "one-up". Si elle n'était pas embarrassée, elle ne se soucierait guère au sujet de ce que les médias avaient indiqué au sujet de elle. Convenez-vous ?


(On the contrary, IMAGE is everything. Now she has no one to "one-up". If she wasn't embarassed, she wouldn't give a damn about what the media had said about her. Do you agree?)

That was fun!

Casey is a legend in her own mind. I think her "media binder" is a good example of that. I don't think she can grasp the difference between famous and infamous. I think Casey may be enraged that the media doesn't "understand" her and she thinks they mischaracterize why she did what she did, but embarrassment would indicate an understanding of what a good character consists of and that ain't our girl. She reminds me of the old saying, "Say of me what you will, just make sure you spell my name right." I think she might be somewhat embarrassed of things that show her in a bad light when it comes to vanity, or lack of intelligence, but that too, would probably be minimized because she would greatly marginalize whoever had such an opinion.

[Pruddennce]

*Bolding to address:

One thing though, Pru. Casey slapping Caylee around might have been the one thing that would have set Cindy into protecting Caylee. It probably would have opened her eyes and set the machine into gear to take custody. I don't think Casey would have gambled with that. That's JMO but as dense as Casey was she had to have realized that she could lose Caylee if she hurt her in front of Cindy. Cindy had already accused her of being a bad mother and it sounds like had put some thought into getting custody. Physical abuse would have given her the ammunition.

The rest...... I simply can not get into Cindy and George's head, they went to get the car and then..... what could they possibly have been thinking???? So used to covering for Casey, believing her stories, keeping the peace, that they wanted time to think it over, put it in the 'it's okay' column even though the truth was obvious??? I understand Casey, I know many Caseys, and I understand some of what probably started Cindy and George along the road that led to where they are now, but I just can't rationalize, with their backgrounds, not acknowledging what was right in their faces at that towyard. If they had, how differently this story might have been played out!

hmmm...not if there were a few slaps in that house before caylee came on board, or of course afterwards between the adults......

Jesee G stated that Lee told him Cindy got physical with Casey, Casey left. Casey called Jesee and/or msg'd him that she would tell him all about it...also not to talk to her mother if she called.

Cindy denies it. and then Casey denied it. something transpired between the two of them and I still believe it spilled over to caylee, prior to that event and during that event. complete with threats.

it all sounds great in theory....ILL TAKE THAT CHILD FROM YOU....but Cindy was so far gone in debt, she had to work to support the parasites, leeches and maggots living in her home with her.....she didnt really want to take Caylee only to turn her over for a fee each day....

the 'free babysitter' Casey, was outta sight, outta mind, she saw Caylee most days before her daughter started her 'sleepover work/nanny stories'.....Cindy wasnt about to begin a legal process nor arrange for paid child care. as long as Casey came home with Caylee, she tolerated her behaviour.....and in between she demeaned her.

Caylee was coming up on being real verbal.....questions that could be answered. Casey couldnt allow her to reach that milestone. it would compromise her secret lifestyle.

Caylee was a pawn between the two, valued somewhat by one person, valued not at all by the other. casey didnt care, Cindy cared, but lets face it, she wanted to be THE mother to caylee without full responsibility.

she said it herself: NOW she claims I couldnt do anything about Casey with Caylee, she was not my child.

easy way out...AFTER SHE IS FOUND DEAD. thats how cindy sleeps at nite to soothe her conscience. *what was "I" supposed to do*?

no one in that house is held accountable for anything, not even a helpless little toddler *IM NOT CAYLEE's MOTHER*<---depo remark

pack of thieving liars.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[crimeq]

Casey was clearly not content to sit at the Anthony home. She instead created ridiculous stories just to get out of the home, and to be able to visit folks and go partying. She wanted attention. She "dressed" in ways that would call attention to her. She strutted. She went shopping. She spent time with quite a number of men in a short number of months. She WANTED attention. No doubt in my mind.

You are right though, that she may not want the type of attention that the public is giving her right now. Perhaps she now does want to just hide in her cell. I just can't get my mind to work like hers does. Thank the Lord!

I've watched her in court, how she notices the camera is on her and she won't make eye contact. I don't think Casey is embarrassed--but I think she doesn't want to be seen this way, this isn't flattering for her. She'd rather not be there and isn't going to give the camera time of day--I think she's rather defiant about it--but I think the problem for her is "image" and she doesn't want to be seen as she is now--a jailbird--because it doesn't project the "image" she tried to project before.

[saywhat04]

she didnt want the Bubble House disturbed.....no one is held accountable for bad behaviour IF there is a chance someone might find out. WHICH WAS THEIR ENTIRE LIFE TOGETHER, and at present.



<snipped to address and bolded cuz I LOVE IT!>

Ahhhh ... exactly! PERFECTLY stated, my friend! :cool:

[saywhat04]

Weird.

When I clicked on this link, I got the audio OK. At the top of the page is an ad for personalized m&ms. It shows one candy that says, "Casey's Our Girl," the next shows a picture that sure looks like PRP, the next says, "Happy Birthday," then there's one with just an "m."

I'm going to get my clove of garlic. BRB.....

You KILL me, spots! :lol:

[Lavinia]

<snipped to address and bolded cuz I LOVE IT!>

Ahhhh ... exactly! PERFECTLY stated, my friend! :cool:

Pruddence has a way of cutting to the chase, doesn't she?

(Love your new siggy, my perfect friend. :loveeyes:)

[saywhat04]

Au contraire mon frere! I don't think you will find an embarrassed bone in her body. It will always be someone else's fault or some type of justification. Remember, she will lie, cheat and steal to get her daughter back. :rolleyes: The devil made her do it.

:ohmy:

:wub:

[Sandy001]

I agree with that. I couldn't see LE wanting to take on this situation with all the other Anthony situations already muddying up Florida's legal system.

These people, this Anthony family, they will get theirs down the line. They will, and I believe this with everything I have in me -- they will get theirs.

These skirmishes are not even little battles. So regardless that the Anthonys think they've "won" they've done no such thing. They've only underscored yet again the fact that they are lazy foolish losers with a daughter in jail for the murder of her baby daughter -- how can they consider anything they do as a victory when their life is on the whole a failure in every sense of the word?

They can't, is the answer.

They'll get their due, in due time.
The trial is going to rock them to their rotten cores. Thanks Tuna, I have to hope that they will reap what they sow in the long run. I have met too many people who are deep legal trouble because they made one mistake in a moment of weakness or whatever. They pay every day with pain and also with hope that they will eventually get their lives back. Thing is, they ARE taking responsibility for their actions. The Anthony family doesn't b3elieve in personal responsibility for ANYTHING, including their own words out of their own mouths.

[saywhat04]

I agree completely. I didn't mean to sound like I thought she lived in an alternate reality or wasn't aware of what she did. It isn't that she doesn't know what she did, but that it wasn't a bad thing for her to do because it was for the survival of the 'real' Casey, and that's so important it overrides everything else. If she had to do something, anything, bad, it wasn't her fault because others put her in a position to make her have to do it. She could pass a lie detector because when push comes to shove she wasn't responsible, no matter what she actually did. In her own mind.

I think in this case Caylee made her do it because Caylee was suddenly a threat to the lifestyle that Casey had worked so hard to construct.

I wonder what the reaction would be, if every freaking time either the OC or her Mommy Dearest lied and/or refused to take responsibility, someone got about an inch from their face and yelled NONSENSE! TRY AGAIN! over and over?

I'd happily volunteer for the job. :cursing:

I can't help but think these females continue to do it because they continue to get away with it, often without even being challenged.

[Sandy001]

I can see Casey forbidding her attorneys to share any info with George or Cindy.

Don't let Cindy's attempts at "tearing" fool you. If she's out late at night, under the cover of darkness, stealing Caylee crosses, she's only putting on an act with those tears. I do not think there is any love lost between Casey's "dream" defense atty and the Anthony ffamily. I see Casey throwing her family under the bus and then claiming Jose did it.

Defense attys can only share with other people WHAT the DEFENDENT allows them to. So, it all comes down to Casey and her twisted relationship with her family. I can see her claiming that Cindy drove her to murder. No one in the family takes ANY responsibility for ANY of their actions.

[seeing_eye]

I have a problem with George 'emerging a stronger man.'

If he had, he'd be telling everything he knows to LE, and he'd stop associating with KidFinders, and he'd not give one good god damn what that shrew he married had to say about it.

That would be a strong man.

George is still a lazy, lying wimp, IMO. And he'll never kill himself, he's a drama queen as bad as is his wife.

:mellow:

So true, so true. Every bit of what you said is true. Not only is he "not on the ball," but he doesn't even know what a ball is!

[saywhat04]

Pruddence has a way of cutting to the chase, doesn't she?

(Love your new siggy, my perfect friend. :loveeyes:)

Thank you, dahlink. I was in the backyard getting my vitamin D earlier, iPod on, and heard that song. Thought immediately of little Caylee.

[101Spots]

So true, so true. Every bit of what you said is true. Not only is he "not on the ball," but he doesn't even know what a ball is!

I wonder if he even knows they're MIA?

[Sandy001]

Oh absolutely..No doubt about it...
That was her plan... and I think she figured they would "pin it on" ZFG.
She had her name..Her ties to New York (license plate) she had it all.

But where her plan went south was the job. She hadn't figured out the job well enough. I think she had thought that they would take her word on it. Why wouldn't they? I mean her job has "nothing" to do with Caylee being missing. (not in Casey's head anyway). So them calling ahead and knowing that the Universal was a lie...They already had her..
Once she turned around and told LE that she didn't really work there and they found a room to sit and chat......That is where (imho) that LE blew it with their questioning. I would have made Casey explain that if Universal gave her the phone "the only one with ZFG number in it" then there really isn't a phone is there? Meaning there is no number = no nanny..
If there was no job, why a Nanny? = No Nanny
No job means no money..No money = no nanny
No Jeffery Michael Hopkins w/ son Zach = no nanny

Snip>>>>>
(A) I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
of years ago.
(Q)And you would go to Jeff's house why?
(A) To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_Casey-0411-071608.htm


Did LE ever go to this house she claims she use to drop Caylee off at?? Just to prove "again" there
is no Jeffery, there is no house, there is no NANNY!!

I am really curious what way the defense is going to go with this........
If it is with the Nanny story......... you will hear me laughing from up here in MN.....

mooIt's pretty obviosu to me that Casey was NOT used to being questioned about her lies. LE tracked down all of her so-called lies. I doubt Cindy or George or even Lee ever bothered to call her on her lies so she is still CONFIDENT that she can fool everyone. She's gotten away with this kind of behavior for years - hence her nonchalance when she is actually caught in the act of lying. Cindy is also a fool for her absolutely STOOPID COMMENT that it's not against the law to lie. That's how her daughter wound up in the jail the first time - FOR LYING TO AN OFFICER OF THE LAW.

I hope the Anthonys continue their habits of lying and that they get caught and jailed for contempt. Cindy is so contemptuous of anyone and EVERYONE. I think a contempt charge with a nice fine to reimburse LE for the time they wasted chasing Casey's lies would be justice.Bankrupt the foundation. That's JUSTICE.

[Unleashed]

Au contraire mon frere! I don't think you will find an embarrassed bone in her body. It will always be someone else's fault or some type of justification. Remember, she will lie, cheat and steal to get her daughter back. :rolleyes: The devil made her do it.


ITA, Lavinia. That one does not have an embarrassment gene. I don't she even knows in her heart yet that her cover is blown.

JMO

[saywhat04]

ITA, Lavinia. That one does not have an embarrassment gene. I don't she even knows in her heart yet that her cover is blown.

JMO

Her heart? :confused:

[Sandy001]

I agree with you. I think that's the main reason she didn't want to appear at her hearings. Why wouldn't she take every opportunity to "help" with her defense, or at a minimum, get a few hours outside the jail? Imo, because she's mortified. Think about the front she put up before Caylee's murder, and the truth of her as it is now known.

I respectfully disagree. I don't think Baez WANTED her there. I think he really doesn't want her to know what he is doing. That gives him the control. I also think he doesn't want to have her see what a fool he makes of himself in the court. He wants to be the BMOC and without Casey actually IN the court, he can brag about how he fooled the judge and he can put any spin he wants on what went on IF, and only IF, she is not in the courtroom.

He probably told her that it is all a legal speak and that she was better off not being there.

[101Spots]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think Baez WANTED her there. I think he really doesn't want her to know what he is doing. That gives him the control. I also think he doesn't want to have her see what a fool he makes of himself in the court. He wants to be the BMOC and without Casey actually IN the court, he can brag about how he fooled the judge and he can put any spin he wants on what went on IF, and only IF, she is not in the courtroom.

I am totally with you on this, seestah! Too bad for Jose, the judge saw through his ploy. Good for Jose - Casey wouldn't know the difference if it bit her on the ........ well, anywhere.

[ttcRider]

I think we have all known someone in our life time who was a chronic liar. (or not) I just stopped calling them on their lies and acted like I didn't care either way. Most cases the lies were attention seeking. Its like the boy who cried WOLF! After so many times you stop hearing it.. :angry: Maybe that was what Cindy and Family were doing in the end? :blink:

[ttcRider]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think Baez WANTED her there. I think he really doesn't want her to know what he is doing. That gives him the control. I also think he doesn't want to have her see what a fool he makes of himself in the court. He wants to be the BMOC and without Casey actually IN the court, he can brag about how he fooled the judge and he can put any spin he wants on what went on IF, and only IF, she is not in the courtroom.

He probably told her that it is all a legal speak and that she was better off not being there.

Bolding is mine - THAT is a very good possibility! :laugh:

[Pruddennce]

I've watched her in court, how she notices the camera is on her and she won't make eye contact. I don't think Casey is embarrassed--but I think she doesn't want to be seen this way, this isn't flattering for her. She'd rather not be there and isn't going to give the camera time of day--I think she's rather defiant about it--but I think the problem for her is "image" and she doesn't want to be seen as she is now--a jailbird--because it doesn't project the "image" she tried to project before.

I agree with you crimeq. Baez told her it was OK not to attend...whewwwwwwww good for meeeeeeeeeeeee....ill stick it out in my little cell for months on end....keep my mind off of things (which, way back when, she boasts about to her parents, Im not crying, Im keeping busy, Im not thinking about things....)

she thought that sounded normal....not being upset, reading, sleeping, eating 'new foods'....all is fine with ME. but of course, she was anticipating being released on bail at that time.

now there is no bail in the future. the judge said NO, sowwy, you have to be here. she would rather hide out until trial than squeeze into ugly clothes with minimal tools to primp with.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Sandy001]

I totally agree. Casey since the very start, has been mad as hell at her parents.. Reference that "Whoah, OMG big waste" phone call she made to get TL's phone number. The family dynamics are pretty bad when the maternal grandmother considers the scenario that Casey killed Caylee to get even with her mother. Which is a scenario I would believe. Casey, from day one, has been talking trash about her parents to her friends. I think all that will come back to bite her in the end.


The depth of denial that Cindy must have regarding her daughter is incredible imo

[101Spots]

I think we have all known someone in our life time who was a chronic liar. (or not) I just stopped calling them on their lies and acted like I didn't care either way. Most cases the lies were attention seeking. Its like the boy who cried WOLF! After so many times you stop hearing it.. :angry: Maybe that was what Cindy and Family were doing in the end? :blink:

People like this tend to move on after a period of time. As Circle of Friends #1 learns about the lying and re-evaluates the person, he/she moves on to Circle of Friends #2. No need to face the consequences of the lying - ignore, evade, and move on.

The pattern plays out over and over.

[Unleashed]

Her heart? :confused:

You are correct. :punch: to me.

JMO

[Sandy001]

I think she is still mad that her mom and Dad had a chili party while she was in jail...

I also think that Casey is VERY jealous of her mom's new "stardom" and doing the circuit and seeing her "cameos" on TV..
I believe that Casey thinks it should be her going on the today show, and LKL talking about the nanny and how to prevent this from happening to some other child.
I mean she would be great in an interview she had already mastered the not crying so she could "stay composed to talk to detectives, to make other phone calls, to do other things".
I honestly believe Casey thought she was clever enough with her story that they would never look at her as the POI....

moo

I see a real jealousy between Casey and her mother.

[101Spots]

I see a real jealousy between Casey and her mother.

I'm not sure if it's jealousy or a flat-out competition.

[Sandy001]

Oh absolutely..No doubt about it...
That was her plan... and I think she figured they would "pin it on" ZFG.
She had her name..Her ties to New York (license plate) she had it all.

But where her plan went south was the job. She hadn't figured out the job well enough. I think she had thought that they would take her word on it. Why wouldn't they? I mean her job has "nothing" to do with Caylee being missing. (not in Casey's head anyway). So them calling ahead and knowing that the Universal was a lie...They already had her..
Once she turned around and told LE that she didn't really work there and they found a room to sit and chat......That is where (imho) that LE blew it with their questioning. I would have made Casey explain that if Universal gave her the phone "the only one with ZFG number in it" then there really isn't a phone is there? Meaning there is no number = no nanny..
If there was no job, why a Nanny? = No Nanny
No job means no money..No money = no nanny
No Jeffery Michael Hopkins w/ son Zach = no nanny

Snip>>>>>
(A) I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
of years ago.
(Q)And you would go to Jeff's house why?
(A) To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_Casey-0411-071608.htm


Did LE ever go to this house she claims she use to drop Caylee off at?? Just to prove "again" there
is no Jeffery, there is no house, there is no NANNY!!

I am really curious what way the defense is going to go with this........
If it is with the Nanny story......... you will hear me laughing from up here in MN.....

moo I don't know if the Jeff address was checked out. I know they DID take Casey to all three places she said that ZFG lived at. None of those panned out. I am sure they also checked out an Raquel Ferrell who was allegedly ZFG's roommate.

[Pruddennce]

I do not think there is any love lost between Casey's "dream" defense atty and the Anthony ffamily. I see Casey throwing her family under the bus and then claiming Jose did it.

Defense attys can only share with other people WHAT the DEFENDENT allows them to. So, it all comes down to Casey and her twisted relationship with her family. I can see her claiming that Cindy drove her to murder. No one in the family takes ANY responsibility for ANY of their actions.

gone are the days of Cindy and Jose: look how cozy.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25828634#25828634

and I agree.....the honeymoon is over....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Sandy001]

Okay, I can buy that.

In your experience, don't most inmates just go bonkers in their little cells, though? Or do most of them adjust as well as Casey appears to have adjusted?
Jail is not a pleasant place to be. But friendships are made and there are books to read. It's the CONCEPT of jail that is hard. Remember, Casey has plenty of commissary money to spend and the jail there seems to have a huge commissary. She also has a radio which is more than most inmates ever have. I would imagine she has also established relationships with most of the correctional officers in her "pod."

[Lavinia]

Lavinia, you have her pegged to a tee. I believe that this is Casey's fifteen minutes of fame and she is revelling in it no matter the consequences. It is quite apparent that she is loving being in the Media attention and will be famous in prison. What a sick and twisted creature she is. God Love her, since from what I see, none here do.

Welcome to the boards Hawkeye, if you're new. So many people changing into summer clothes I 'm losing track of who's who. Good to see you posting if you're new to us or not! :thumbup:

[101Spots]

gone are the days of Cindy and Jose: look how cozy.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25828634#25828634

and I agree.....the honeymoon is over....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Gee, thanks. Now I'm going to have nightmares tonight and ~possibly~ be scarred for life.

<shudder>

[Sandy001]

Casey Anthony's defense team wants a judge to postpone his decision on whether to release a jail video of Anthony so they have more time to investigate media leaks by the state.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not decided if the video taken of Anthony, 23, at the Orange County Jail the day she learned the remains of a child were found near her family home. Her attorneys have accused jail officials and Orange County Sheriff's Office of setting her up.

Her defense team doesn't want the video of her in the medical facility made public. The media does and have filed legal requests. Prosecutors say they have no preference.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie. On Dec. 11, bones of the 2-year-old were found less than a mile from the east Orange County home she shared with her family.

Defense attorneys Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon asked for 60 days to look into reports of media leaks by investigators. The extra time also would allow Lyon – a death penalty attorney new to the case – to catch up on all the material.

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

Marti Mackenzie, the spokeswoman for the defense team, sent an e-mail, saying neither she nor the lawyers would comment.

"I will have nothing to say to the media until such time as deemed appropriate by Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon," she wrote.

I have to wonder if they are also "investigating" all the defense leaks and media spewing. None of these "leaks" will prevent her from getting a fair trial. jmo. I wish Jose good luck in finding those "sources close to the investigation." They could be someone who just happened to be in an outer office when a conversation was taking place. Just more delay, delay, delay if you ask me. Or maybe he is just afraid that DC might have leaked something that Baez didn't want in the media. I have YET to see anyone from the prosecutor's office jumping in front of every camera he or she can find. I also have yet to see an attorney who has no loegal standing in the case talk about how he or she is going to dispute the death penalty.

A day with Baez is a day of sunshine here. jmo

[ttcRider]

Jail is not a pleasant place to be. But friendships are made and there are books to read. It's the CONCEPT of jail that is hard. Remember, Casey has plenty of commissary money to spend and the jail there seems to have a huge commissary. She also has a radio which is more than most inmates ever have. I would imagine she has also established relationships with most of the correctional officers in her "pod."

Well she did say she couldnt wait to get out of the house and into her own place. :sneaky:

[101Spots]

I have to wonder if they are also "investigating" all the defense leaks and media spewing. None of these "leaks" will prevent her from getting a fair trial. jmo. I wish Jose good luck in finding those "sources close to the investigation." They could be someone who just happened to be in an outer office when a conversation was taking place. Just more delay, delay, delay if you ask me. Or maybe he is just afraid that DC might have leaked something that Baez didn't want in the media. I have YET to see anyone from the prosecutor's office jumping in front of every camera he or she can find. I also have yet to see an attorney who has no loegal standing in the case talk about how he or she is going to dispute the death penalty.

A day with Baez is a day of sunshine here. jmo

Really? I've always thought of a day with Bozo more like a 3-watt light bulb. Dim and basically useless.

[Lavinia]

ITA, Lavinia. That one does not have an embarrassment gene. I don't she even knows in her heart yet that her cover is blown.

JMO

You're right chickie. In her mind, she thinks we're just a bunch of ignoramuses that just can't possibly understand the brilliance which is Casey and her uniquely specialized travails. Poor dumb us. :sneaky:

[Lavinia]

Really? I've always thought of a day with Bozo more like a 3-watt light bulb. Dim and basically useless.

Best when used in a refrigerator. (Refrigerator that smells of DEATH! :scared:)

[101Spots]

You're right chickie. In her mind, she thinks we're just a bunch of ignoramuses that just can't possibly understand the brilliance which is Casey and her uniquely specialized travails. Poor dumb us. :sneaky:

Crap. I don't think "Mrs. Ignoramus" is going to fit on my mailbox.

[Lavinia]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

[Lavinia]

Crap. I don't think "Mrs. Ignoramus" is going to fit on my mailbox.

"Ms. Igno" is what I use. :wink:

[Sandy001]

Somehow I don't see her, if given the choice, to sit it out relaxing and enjoying being by herself versus going out partying with her friends.

Afterall, isn't that why we're here? If she was a good mommy and had taken care of her little girl like a mommy should, I don't think she'd be sitting in a jail cell awaiting a murder trial. Sociopaths adjust to their surroundings. So I doubt Casey is really suffering at all.

Even Scott Peterson has adjusted to death row. He had no history of any wrong-doing at all. So jail/prison should be pure hell for him but by all accounts, he is doing well in prison and has adjusted well. Casey has, in all likelihood, adjusted well also. jmo

[need2no]

Well she did say she couldnt wait to get out of the house and into her own place. :sneaky:


:biggrin: Be careful what you ask for.

[101Spots]

"Ms. Igno" is what I use. :wink:

Maybe "Dummy" would fit. It's not a big mailbox. Or just "45" for my IQ.

[ttcRider]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

I would love to go but I'm too fat and lazy. :w00t:
:wink:

[need2no]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

I would love to go but I think my hubby would have me committed if I did. Unfortunately he doesn't understand the fascination. :mad:

[Sandy001]

Well, that really does it.

I want to know what's on that tape.

It's got to be more than KC Anthony having a meltdown as described.

Now I really really really want to see it.

:sneaky:
Me, too, Tuna. I am betting there is something on the tape that BAEZ doesn't want seen, not necessarily anything damaging to Casey. He is fighting WAYYY to hard on this one.

[Lavinia]

Sociopaths adjust to their surroundings. So I doubt Casey is really suffering at all.

Even Scott Peterson has adjusted to death row. He had no history of any wrong-doing at all. So jail/prison should be pure hell for him but by all accounts, he is doing well in prison and has adjusted well. Casey has, in all likelihood, adjusted well also. jmo

Just like chameleons, they adjust so well, they even take on the color of all the concrete and steel that surround them. :laugh:

[101Spots]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

That would depend on how much alcohol I'm given.

[adair]

Hello Everyone


Just checking in after work, did I miss anything?


Thanks in advance.


Any chance the A and M's could be charged with kidnapping or something along that line for trapping the ladies with their two vehicles????

It just blows my mind that anyone would disrespect a cross with their grand daughters name on it.

I do not think that there is shrink with a big enough couch for all their mental .... um issues??? (no offense to psychologists)


jmo

[Pruddennce]

I don't know if the Jeff address was checked out. I know they DID take Casey to all three places she said that ZFG lived at. None of those panned out. I am sure they also checked out an Raquel Ferrell who was allegedly ZFG's roommate.

like I said before, the devil is in the details. Casey not only gave names, she gave family histories, addresses AND occupations and places of business.

Raquel, IIRC worked at Fridays....NOT!

they tracked down the only known Jeff Hopkins in her life, the one thru Universal who had not worked there for several years. he doesnt have a son.

Juliet Lewis does not exist.

the ONLY TWO PEOPLE she claimed she told that her daughter was missing cannot be located. she claimed she called them, but oops I lost my phone with their tele #'s in it.

oops, I lost my phone that had Zanny's #.....but wait! Cindy has Zanny's #!

No, she doesnt. If she did, she would have called and found out Zanny doesnt live there. Ricardo would have answered the phone (Zanny's apt is set up just like Ricardo's...parallel world!)

Casey was not planning on having this information investigated. more details, in her mind, more believable, the game she played with her parents............with LE, more details, more to check out..... she wasnt planning on that happening....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Sandy001]

alot of her partying was in peoples homes. liquor is much cheaper, a keg of beer, etc plus she developed a reputation as a non drinker so perhaps she wasn't expected to contribute as much, and when her friends got drunk she could keep her "drink" topped off without their noticing.

TonE complained that she drank up a big portion of his earnings from Fusion one night i think he said $60. Going out in groups is an easy way to get your drinks paid for, head to the ladies room round the time they start ordering the second, third rounds. I have been out with plenty of people who have a great time and get drunk as a skunk and only ever pay for their first drink. Bartenders will comp drinks to single females - they bring in males. When I was single, I could count on one hand the number of drinks I EVER paid for.

[Lavinia]

I would love to go but I think my hubby would have me committed if I did. Unfortunately he doesn't understand the fascination. :mad:

Would he understand a minor kidnapping by other people fascinated by this? :sneaky: (I'll just stuff some pillows under my covers to look like a body and put my computer under there. He won't realize I'm not here for days. :laugh:)

[Dick Tracy]

Casey is a legend in her own mind. I think her "media binder" is a good example of that. I don't think she can grasp the difference between famous and infamous. I think Casey may be enraged that the media doesn't "understand" her and she thinks they mischaracterize why she did what she did, but embarrassment would indicate an understanding of what a good character consists of and that ain't our girl. She reminds me of the old saying, "Say of me what you will, just make sure you spell my name right." I think she might be somewhat embarrassed of things that show her in a bad light when it comes to vanity, or lack of intelligence, but that too, would probably be minimized because she would greatly marginalize whoever had such an opinion.

Lavinia! - Well by golly, that sums it up very nicely. IF (and it will never happen) she was somehow by acquitted, she could never go back to her old circle of friends.

[Lavinia]

That would depend on how much alcohol I'm given.

I won't give you any, but I'll rent you some. I fully expect to get it back. barf

[Lavinia]

Lavinia! - Well by golly, that sums it up very nicely. IF (and it will never happen) she was somehow by acquitted, she could never go back to her old circle of friends.

She could never get past their machine guns, lol.

[101Spots]

I won't give you any, but I'll rent you some. I fully expect to get it back. barf

As long as it doesn't have to be *in* the bottle when you get it back, no problem!

Night all!

[need2no]

Would he understand a minor kidnapping by other people fascinated by this? :sneaky: (I'll just stuff some pillows under my covers to look like a body and put my computer under there. He won't realize I'm not here for days. :laugh:)


LOL-sounds like a great plan to me, it could take a while for him to catch on! Or maybe I could hire him a sexy housekeeper/cook while I'm gone. Heck he'd probably send me some money to stay for the entire trial. :laugh:

[Pruddennce]

Gee, thanks. Now I'm going to have nightmares tonight and ~possibly~ be scarred for life.

<shudder>

Im sorry Spots, usually I attach a warning. :D

that was their idea of a 'united front' until Baez caught on he only had one client.

oooopsy....

and now he has begun to defend his client and that means.....Cindy and George, possibly Lee are going to be smeared all over her defense.....

*DONT YOU LOOK AT THEM IN COURT*

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[adair]

I don't know if the Jeff address was checked out. I know they DID take Casey to all three places she said that ZFG lived at. None of those panned out. I am sure they also checked out an Raquel Ferrell who was allegedly ZFG's roommate.


IIRC LE also checked out where the nannies mother supposedly lived.

[saywhat04]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

I would love to, even though I'm in Nevada. We're talking 2010, earliest, I think. Hope I live that long. :glare:

[Lavinia]

I would love to go but I'm too fat and lazy. :w00t:
:wink:

I started working out last week. I will consider Casey's trial my marathon. (Only thing that might stand in my way is hubby. He gets really leery when I get a wild hair, lol.)

[adair]

I'm not sure if it's jealousy or a flat-out competition.


What Ever It IS Its Incredibly sick. jmo

[Lavinia]

I would love to, even though I'm in Nevada. We're talking 2010, earliest, I think. Hope I live that long. :glare:

Get to TX and I'll get us there. Heaven help the south.

[need2no]

Get to TX and I'll get us there. Heaven help the south.

Y'all can meet at my house and we will carpool from here. I'm about a 9 hour drive from Or lawn doe.

[Lavinia]

LOL-sounds like a great plan to me, it could take a while for him to catch on! Or maybe I could hire him a sexy housekeeper/cook while I'm gone. Heck he'd probably send me some money to stay for the entire trial. :laugh:

There ya' go! Work it, work it, work it! :laugh:

[saywhat04]

Get to TX and I'll get us there. Heaven help the south.

It's a deal. Texas is easy. I'll need your address well ahead of time so I can ship, um, supplies. :sneaky:

(Those airline limits on liquids have really cramped my style.)



I'm out for the night.

See you'uns tomorrow. :smile:

[Sandy001]

I agree with you crimeq. Baez told her it was OK not to attend...whewwwwwwww good for meeeeeeeeeeeee....ill stick it out in my little cell for months on end....keep my mind off of things (which, way back when, she boasts about to her parents, Im not crying, Im keeping busy, Im not thinking about things....)

she thought that sounded normal....not being upset, reading, sleeping, eating 'new foods'....all is fine with ME. but of course, she was anticipating being released on bail at that time.

now there is no bail in the future. the judge said NO, sowwy, you have to be here. she would rather hide out until trial than squeeze into ugly clothes with minimal tools to primp with.



best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*
IMO I think she can get make-up through the commissary.


I have a dear friend who had to stand trial 600 miles from her home. She made the trip EVERY hearing until the last one and her attorney and the Judge said it was ok (it was getting really expensive). Her atty (who was reputable) sent her a CD of the hearing so she was able to hear everything lie that was told....lol

[Lavinia]

Y'all can meet at my house and we will carpool from here. I'm about a 9 hour drive from Or lawn doe.

I'm a few 12 packs from Or Lawn Doe. (Just kidding. I rarely drink and certainly don't drink and drive. :patriot:)

[need2no]

There ya' go! Work it, work it, work it! :laugh:

:tonguewag:

Don't he wish I'd work it THAT way. :biggrin:.....I just might, this could be worth it.

[Lavinia]

It's a deal. Texas is easy. I'll need your address well ahead of time so I can ship, um, supplies. :sneaky:

(Those airline limits on liquids have really cramped my style.)



I'm out for the night.

See you'uns tomorrow. :smile:

I'm gone too, Good night Perfect and Spots and anyone else who's hitting the hay.

See you guys tomorrow! :wub:

[ttcRider]

I'm gone too, Good night Perfect and Spots and anyone else who's hitting the hay.

See you guys tomorrow! :wub:

Good night Say and Lavinia! :wub:

[need2no]

I'm a few 12 packs from Or Lawn Doe. (Just kidding. I rarely drink and certainly don't drink and drive. :patriot:)

Good, you can be our designated driver. :smile:

Bet you'd be a drinker after the first few days of this trial, but that's ok, we can hire a taxi.

[Sandy001]

Everyone who is going to make the trip - I am pea green with envy. I will be stuck at home dealing with people who are in classes for making a mistake regarding their children and who are accepting responsibility and trying to make their lives better so they can get their chidlren back.

I would say that maybe ONE out of every TEN people that I come across ARE taking responsibility and paying the price for their actions. But there's always that one who is still trying to "snow" the world about their case.

[need2no]

Everyone who is going to make the trip - I am pea green with envy. I will be stuck at home dealing with people who are in classes for making a mistake regarding their children and who are accepting responsibility and trying to make their lives better so they can get their chidlren back.
I would say that maybe ONE out of every TEN people that I come across ARE taking responsibility and paying the price for their actions. But there's always that one who is still trying to "snow" the world about their case.

Been there, done that....you have my sympathy and respect. It isn't easy trying to help someone out of their self imposed mess.

[adair]

Get to TX and I'll get us there. Heaven help the south.

Really...


Well I live in NW Indiana..........Once we know WHERE the trial will be held and WHEN........ I would really enjoy getting to know my ONF (online friends....). We would all sit on the pros side.

Any idea of how long they are predicting the trial to last?

[ttcRider]

Really...


Well I live in NW Indiana..........Once we know WHERE the trial will be held and WHEN........ I would really enjoy getting to know my ONF (online friends....). We would all sit on the pros side.

Any idea of how long they are predicting the trial to last?

Since everyone is working pro-bono you'd think a day or two, jury will be out long enough to get a drink of water and then it will be over. :confused:

[crimeq]

Who here is really planning on trying to go to Fl. for a short trip during the trial? I am.

I am :-) Wouldn't miss the Absinthe Tour for the world.

[Dick Tracy]

gone are the days of Cindy and Jose: look how cozy.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25828634#25828634

and I agree.....the honeymoon is over....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

I started laughing halfway through this. Cindy looked very bad sitting there, but when she opened her mouth, what came out in response to the question posed to her?

BS about a tip, looking for the kid with blonde hair now, and they're heading (didn't say who they were) north into the Atlanta, uh.... Northern Georgia area.

That's when I really almost had a heart attack from laughing so hard.

You really know how to pick 'em Pru.

[Dick Tracy]

I am :-) Wouldn't miss the Absinthe Tour for the world.


Me. I am seriously planning it.

[crimeq]

Me. I am seriously planning it.

Cool! I am serious about this.

[crimeq]

Me. I am seriously planning it.

Are we the only ones left on the board ???

[Dick Tracy]

Really...


Well I live in NW Indiana..........Once we know WHERE the trial will be held and WHEN........ I would really enjoy getting to know my ONF (online friends....). We would all sit on the pros side.

Any idea of how long they are predicting the trial to last?

You know, if the state of Florida was smart, they would COV to Tampa, use Tampa Stadium Monday thru Friday for the trial, and charge 10 bucks a pop to get in to the general public. Hell, I'd go.

They'd make all there money back, and THEN SOME.

KING: Weird.

[crimeq]

I started laughing halfway through this. Cindy looked very bad sitting there, but when she opened her mouth, what came out in response to the question posed to her?

BS about a tip, looking for the kid with blonde hair now, and they're heading (didn't say who they were) north into the Atlanta, uh.... Northern Georgia area.

That's when I really almost had a heart attack from laughing so hard.

You really know how to pick 'em Pru.

Did you see Jose's grimace as Cindy was lying? Dead give-away.

[crimeq]

You know, if the state of Florida was smart, they would COV to Tampa, use Tampa Stadium Monday thru Friday for the trial, and charge 10 bucks a pop to get in to the general public. Hell, I'd go.

They'd make all there money back, and THEN SOME.

KING: Weird.

What a great idea! Who do you need to send it to, to make it happen?

[Dick Tracy]

Are we the only ones left on the board ???

I don't know, but I'm here for a while. I've been away for a few hours, so I'd thought I'd check in and see what was happening, or if it had any more people.

So, you thinking of going to FLA for the trial?

[crimeq]

I don't know, but I'm here for a while. I've been away for a few hours, so I'd thought I'd check in and see what was happening, or if it had any more people.

So, you thinking of going to FLA for the trial?

I'm here for a short time only too, just wanted to get through the board.

Yes, I'm planning on FL for the trial.

[Dick Tracy]

What a great idea! Who do you need to send it to, to make it happen?

Heck yeah, that's a great idea. Add up the refreshments being sold, they could easily get 50,000 people a day to come in and watch the trial from the stands, and GET THIS! - See it on the Big screen at Tampa Stadium!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEAH BABY!!!

[Dick Tracy]

Heck yeah, that's a great idea. Add up the refreshments being sold, they could easily get 50,000 people a day to come in and watch the trial from the stands, and GET THIS! - See it on the Big screen at Tampa Stadium!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEAH BABY!!!

Not to mention parking sales.


IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE ECONOMY!

[crimeq]

Heck yeah, that's a great idea. Add up the refreshments being sold, they could easily get 50,000 people a day to come in and watch the trial from the stands, and GET THIS! - See it on the Big screen at Tampa Stadium!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEAH BABY!!!

LOL, maybe you should send this idea to Stan Strickland!

Imagine how ticked Cindy would be, seeing all that cash turned over and she couldn't get one cent of it!

[ttcRider]

You know, if the state of Florida was smart, they would COV to Tampa, use Tampa Stadium Monday thru Friday for the trial, and charge 10 bucks a pop to get in to the general public. Hell, I'd go.

They'd make all there money back, and THEN SOME.

KING: Weird.

Hey I was thinking scalper ticket prices! :laugh:

[crimeq]

Not to mention parking sales.


IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE ECONOMY!

Yeah, Lee could handle the parking!

[crimeq]

Hey I was thinking scalper ticket prices! :laugh:

This is a great idea! Florida could come out in the black on a trial of this magnitude! Great appeal to Florida residents, and GREAT entertainment value to the public!

[Dick Tracy]

LOL, maybe you should send this idea to Stan Strickland!

Imagine how ticked Cindy would be, seeing all that cash turned over and she couldn't get one cent of it!

Scrw Cindy. I could just see it now.. The trial on the big screen at Tampa Stadium. They could easily bring in a million and a half a day. That place holds like 63,000 (I'm just saying, don't know for sure).

[Dick Tracy]

This is a great idea! Florida could come out in the black on a trial of this magnitude! Great appeal to Florida residents, and GREAT entertainment value to the public!

Oh yeah baby. You know, sometimes I surprise even MYSELF with these ideas.

[Dick Tracy]

Hey I was thinking scalper ticket prices! :laugh:


The heck with them. This is my idea. If you guys want in, say so!! HE HEE

[ttcRider]

This is a great idea! Florida could come out in the black on a trial of this magnitude! Great appeal to Florida residents, and GREAT entertainment value to the public!

Pork rind sales would go through the roof! Remind me to buy stock before the trial. :thumbup:

[crimeq]

Scrw Cindy. I could just see it now.. The trial on the big screen at Tampa Stadium. They could easily bring in a million and a half a day. That place holds like 63,000 (I'm just saying, don't know for sure).

Unfortunately, as great an idea as this is, courts can't let it turn into something like the christians and the lions.

But what a great idea :-)

[need2no]

Yeah, Lee could handle the parking!

OMG...too funny. :thumbsup:

[ttcRider]

The heck with them. This is my idea. If you guys want in, say so!! HE HEE

I see t-shirt opportunities!!! :drool:

[crimeq]

I see t-shirt opportunities!!! :drool:

Oh yeah, we can put the budget for the State of Florida in the black for YEARS on this gig!

Bet TonE would help us out too, he's majoring in this kind of event production!

[Dick Tracy]

I see t-shirt opportunities!!! :drool:

Hey! They did it back in the old days. It's been done before. It's a huge opportunity for the State of Florida to get income. Think of the temporary help they'd need for 8 months for the trial. Ushers and stuff. You know.

[Dick Tracy]

Hey... I could see alot of us writing comedy for SNL..

[crimeq]

Well, Judge Strickland is going to want to do it in his courtroom, of course, as judges are wont to do. But it could be telecast to the sold-out stadium (it's already streamed on the Internet) and all these financial goodies could happen for the good State of Florida.

We need an event planner :sneaky: or do you think we can take the ball and run with it?

[Dick Tracy]

Think of it this way...

This trial is going to cost the state of Florida millions of dollars, which means the good folk down in Florida like Barbara and MiamiNice gotta pay for it.

I'm thinking PAY PER VIEW baby.

[need2no]

I see t-shirt opportunities!!! :drool:

Y'all are brimming with great ideas tonight.

I see you have a large concession stand in mind. Think of all the possibilities. As you stated pork rinds, t-shirts, and how about American flag dresses, shamrock 'everything', piggy banks, personalized checks, credit card applications, gas cans.....the list is endless. Perhaps even a stand to sell homemade chili. Target could be a sponsor.

[crimeq]

Think of it this way...

This trial is going to cost the state of Florida millions of dollars, which means the good folk down in Florida like Barbara and MiamiNice gotta pay for it.

I'm thinking PAY PER VIEW baby.

I gotcha. :laugh:

[ttcRider]

Well, Judge Strickland is going to want to do it in his courtroom, of course, as judges are wont to do. But it could be telecast to the sold-out stadium (it's already streamed on the Internet) and all these financial goodies could happen for the good State of Florida.

We need an event planner :sneaky: or do you think we can take the ball and run with it?

How hard can it be?? Casey did and she didnt even have her grade 12! :laugh:

[crimeq]

Y'all are brimming with great ideas tonight.

I see you have a large concession stand in mind. Think of all the possibilities. As you stated pork rinds, t-shirts, and how about American flag dresses, shamrock 'everything', piggy banks, personalized checks, credit card applications, gas cans.....the list is endless. Perhaps even a stand to sell homemade chili. Target could be a sponsor.

OMG - you are definitely on the Committee!

[Dick Tracy]

Well, Judge Strickland is going to want to do it in his courtroom, of course, as judges are wont to do. But it could be telecast to the sold-out stadium (it's already streamed on the Internet) and all these financial goodies could happen for the good State of Florida.

We need an event planner :sneaky: or do you think we can take the ball and run with it?

Yeah baby. That's a good idea. Then you could combine your Florida Vacation with the trial, fishing, the beach, a little golf maybe. You know. They even have Jai Lai down in Florida. Weekends, we all go to DismalWorld for a day, maybe check the crime scene out, and see where the PRP lived. Toilet paper their house maybe?

[need2no]

OMG - you are definitely on the Committee!

Thanks...I'm ready!

[crimeq]

We could call on Milsteads for fund-raising ideas, or we could just pass the hat in the stadium, asking a dollar donation per person (or more if your heart feels like it).

Isn't that kind of the way Milsteads do it?

[Dick Tracy]

Y'all are brimming with great ideas tonight.

I see you have a large concession stand in mind. Think of all the possibilities. As you stated pork rinds, t-shirts, and how about American flag dresses, shamrock 'everything', piggy banks, personalized checks, credit card applications, gas cans.....the list is endless. Perhaps even a stand to sell homemade chili. Target could be a sponsor.

I hae just truly lost it. Great job.

[crimeq]

Y'all are brimming with great ideas tonight.

I see you have a large concession stand in mind. Think of all the possibilities. As you stated pork rinds, t-shirts, and how about American flag dresses, shamrock 'everything', piggy banks, personalized checks, credit card applications, gas cans.....the list is endless. Perhaps even a stand to sell homemade chili. Target could be a sponsor.

Such a no-brainer on the personalized checks! They could all be printed in one name and sold over and over and over! Everyone could buy "Amy Huizinga" personalized checks to write!

[need2no]

I hae just truly lost it. Great job.

Thanks!

I think all of us who have followed this since the beginning have earned losing it in more ways than one. :wink:

[ttcRider]

Y'all are brimming with great ideas tonight.

I see you have a large concession stand in mind. Think of all the possibilities. As you stated pork rinds, t-shirts, and how about American flag dresses, shamrock 'everything', piggy banks, personalized checks, credit card applications, gas cans.....the list is endless. Perhaps even a stand to sell homemade chili. Target could be a sponsor.

:lol: Brought to you by the friendly folks at DENTYNE! CHEW CHEW!

[crimeq]

Yeah baby. That's a good idea. Then you could combine your Florida Vacation with the trial, fishing, the beach, a little golf maybe. You know. They even have Jai Lai down in Florida. Weekends, we all go to DismalWorld for a day, maybe check the crime scene out, and see where the PRP lived. Toilet paper their house maybe?

I want the same tour of Universal that LE got. Won't settle for anything less. :closedeyes:

[need2no]

Such a no-brainer on the personalized checks! They could all be printed in one name and sold over and over and over! Everyone could buy "Amy Huizinga" personalized checks to write!


:lol: selling the checks over and over and over!

Somehow I doubt Amy would see the humor, but then again...ya never know. :biggrin:

[need2no]

:lol: Brought to you by the friendly folks at DENTYNE! CHEW CHEW!

LOL

Oh Gawd...how did I forget gum and water.

[ttcRider]

We can have a special appearance by ZGF!! Signing autographs, getting your picture taken with the famous Zanny! Theres tons of money to be made!

[Dick Tracy]

I want the same tour of Universal that LE got. Won't settle for anything less. :closedeyes:

We could sell tours over in Orlando. See SAWGRASS Aparments, the infamous apartment 210. See the STAIRWELL. Visit Blanchard Park. Shake hands with the lady at the AMSCOT. Meet the tow truck guy. The list goes on and on.

[crimeq]

We can have a special appearance by ZGF!! Signing autographs, getting your picture taken with the famous Zanny! Theres tons of money to be made!

Clearly, we can save the economy of the State of Florida.

See what fat, lazy, friendless bloggers can do.

[crimeq]

We could sell tours over in Orlando. See SAWGRASS Aparments, the infamous apartment 210. See the STAIRWELL. Visit Blanchard Park. Shake hands with the lady at the AMSCOT. Meet the tow truck guy. The list goes on and on.

I like this, such personal touches :thumbsup:

[Dick Tracy]

Such a no-brainer on the personalized checks! They could all be printed in one name and sold over and over and over! Everyone could buy "Amy Huizinga" personalized checks to write!

OMG! A set of five checks maybe? Numbers 141-146?

I wanna visit Fusian, and eat some of the great sushi!

[ttcRider]

We could sell tours over in Orlando. See SAWGRASS Aparments, the infamous apartment 210. See the STAIRWELL. Visit Blanchard Park. Shake hands with the lady at the AMSCOT. Meet the tow truck guy. The list goes on and on.

Raffle off a night out at the Hyatt for crab cakes....

[crimeq]

We could sell tours over in Orlando. See SAWGRASS Aparments, the infamous apartment 210. See the STAIRWELL. Visit Blanchard Park. Shake hands with the lady at the AMSCOT. Meet the tow truck guy. The list goes on and on.

We could charge extra for a banquet with Kronk as the featured speaker. And have Rattlesnake Steak on the menu.

[Dick Tracy]

Clearly, we can save the economy of the State of Florida.

See what fat, lazy, friendless bloggers can do.

We could make a zillion dollars. We could bring this entire country out of debt.

[crimeq]

OMG! A set of five checks maybe? Numbers 141-146?

I wanna visit Fusian, and eat some of the great sushi!

Well, yeah, that keeps our printing costs even lower--important, since we don't have our own printing business like D. Milstead.

As far as Fusian, I think we should get Tyra Banks to do an "I Want to be a ShotGirl" contest at Fusian and televise it.

[ttcRider]

Maybe we can get Lenny to MC?? He's gotta be there. :wub:

[Dick Tracy]

We could charge extra for a banquet with Kronk as the featured speaker. And have Rattlesnake Steak on the menu.

I like the crab cake idea better than the rattlesnake. But I could see each week, a different speaker. Roy Kronk, The Amscot Gal. The tow truck guy. Even the guy from Blockbuster who rented the movies to them.

[Dick Tracy]

Maybe we can get Lenny to MC?? He's gotta be there. :wub:

Hey, we get this to LP, it's a sure thing. We have to form a committee. I'm President. Who's next.

[crimeq]

Maybe we can get Lenny to MC?? He's gotta be there. :wub:

Maybe even Larry King!

LKL: "Weird".

[Dick Tracy]

Well, yeah, that keeps our printing costs even lower--important, since we don't have our own printing business like D. Milstead.

As far as Fusian, I think we should get Tyra Banks to do an "I Want to be a ShotGirl" contest at Fusian and televise it.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Some more guests I had in mind at the Banquet - Lectures like "I want to be a cop in thirty seconds - by Dennis Milstead.

[crimeq]

I like the crab cake idea better than the rattlesnake. But I could see each week, a different speaker. Roy Kronk, The Amscot Gal. The tow truck guy. Even the guy from Blockbuster who rented the movies to them.

Well I'd prefer eating crab cakes to rattlesnake steak, definitely.

So -- what are the featured menus for the Amscot Gal, and the Tow Truck Guy, and the Blockbuster Boy?

Remember that hors'd'oeuvres are already handled -- pork rinds, poptarts (isn't she just :sneaky:), so plan accordingly

[crimeq]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Some more guests I had in mind at the Banquet - Lectures like "I want to be a cop in thirty seconds - by Dennis Milstead.

LOL! Think of the stage lighting to announce his entrance, bubble-gum strobes flashing all over the audience?

[Dick Tracy]

Maybe even Larry King!

LKL: "Weird".

Nah.. Larry wouldn't make the trip from California. But we definitely have to invite him all the same. But think of this - we'd be shoulder to shoulder with all those famous TH's - GRETA, NG...

I think we should have Mark Fuhrman come in and give a lecture too.

He was an awesome detective...

[Dick Tracy]

Well I'd prefer eating crab cakes to rattlesnake steak, definitely.

So -- what are the featured menus for the Amscot Gal, and the Tow Truck Guy, and the Blockbuster Boy?

Remember that hors'd'oeuvres are already handled -- pork rinds, poptarts (isn't she just :sneaky:), so plan accordingly

The tow truck guy? Definitely top round steak and potatoes. LOL!

[ttcRider]

good thing they are pushing the trial date to next year some time, this is gonna take some plannin... anyone using the stadium during that time? They will need to find an alternate venue.. We really should give notice now. :biggrin:

[crimeq]

The tow truck guy? Definitely top round steak and potatoes. LOL!

Chicken fried steak and cream gravy :tonguewag: I live in Texas, I know what that is :wink:

[Dick Tracy]

good thing they are pushing the trial date to next year some time, this is gonna take some plannin... anyone using the stadium during that time? They will need to find an alternate venue.. We really should give notice now. :biggrin:


No SWEAT GI. The Tampa Buccaneers use the stadium only on the weekends and maybe on Sunday Night, and MAAAAYBE on a Monday Night. But that's not a problem. We can check with NFL team scheduling and see if we can "juggle" the schedule for that game.

But hey - if the trial starts in Feb, it's ours.. No questions asked!!!!

[Dick Tracy]

good thing they are pushing the trial date to next year some time, this is gonna take some plannin... anyone using the stadium during that time? They will need to find an alternate venue.. We really should give notice now. :biggrin:

Hey! I gotta an idea again! What IF we can get deposits on seats in the stadium? That would show we are dead serious about this. Whatch you guys think of THAT?

[desmom]

I sent a pm to CW over the weekend asking if we should begin a new daily thread if the previous day's thread was only a few pages. She said we should continue to post on the existing thread, so I guess I will start out here with a

Good Tuesday Morning to All! :seeya:

[adair]

I sent a pm to CW over the weekend asking if we should begin a new daily thread if the previous day's thread was only a few pages. She said we should continue to post on the existing thread, so I guess I will start out here with a

Good Tuesday Morning to All! :seeya:

Good Morning!!!


I just woke up, laptop on my lap....I am ready to start a new day posting about CA....LOL I just wish that if Tuesday is cont on Mondays thread there could be some place noted that Tuesday starts on page etc...That will help a lot of us with only limited time to check in know where to go to try to get caught up.

[desmom]

Casey Anthony's defense team wants judge to delay jail video release decision
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-jail-video-060809,0,3034256.story

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

Didn't JB argue a motion regarding leaks earlier this year and the judge denied it? I do remember JB argued the prosecution's request for a gag order on this case.

I think JB needs to also look in their own backyard. Off the top of my head wasn't it LKB that described the color/length of hair found with the remains in a motion hearing? Didn't Cindy Anthony tell us about the pizza (box) that was in the trunk of the car? Didn't Lee tell the media about tracking the ZFG phone calls Casey said she received and the next day or two the media reported there were no ZFG phone calls?

IMO, the sources or leaks are running on both sides of the table. JB should have not fought the gag order.

jmo

[desmom]

One year ago today.....June 9, 2008


Message left for Brittany Schieber on her myspace page from Casey: 6/9/08 7:07 Hey girl! Quick question… do you know any girls, that can sing? my boyfriend Tony, and his business partners are looking for an up and coming female R&B artist let me know!!! i appreciate it. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/Schiener-Brittany---07-24-Statement

Casey picked up Tone at school and took him to pick up his Jeep. Caylee was with Casey. Tone followed Casey back to his apartment and they went to Subway, Casey bought the sandwiches. http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf

Casey and Caylee show up at Ricardo’s after he got off work at 8:00 p.m. and spent the night. This is the last night Ricardo and Caylee were intimate. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:27 p.m. What time do you work today?

Amy to Casey: 5

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:29 p.m.: How’re you feeling today?

Amy to Casey: Pretty good. Still sad, but physically fine.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:31 p.m.: The sadness will surpass. Glad you’re not sore.

Amy to Casey: Me too. I just tidied the boys place and I’m doing laundry. Trying to stay busy bit it’s hard when not at home.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:35 p.m.: Yeah I know that feeling. What time are you off tonight?

Amy to Casey: No idea. I’ll have a better idea when I get there. Earliest 8 latest 12.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:38 p.m.: Alright cool. I’m staying at the boys tonight so we can all hang out.

Amy to Casey: Awesome!

Casey to Amy 06/09 3:36 p.m.: Caylee just pooped in her potty for the first time!

Casey to Amy 06/09 3:43 p.m.: Sorry. Proud momma moment.

Amy to Casey: I’m proud too! Congrads!

Casey to Amy 06/09 8:00 p.m.: What time are you getting off?

Amy to Casey: Should only be 10 more min. Sweep, sort silver, and check out.

[desmom]

The message Casey left for Brittany Schieber on her myspace page,

Hey girl! Quick question… do you know any girls, that can sing? my boyfriend Tony, and his business partners are looking for an up and coming female R&B artist let me know!!! i appreciate it. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/Schiener-Brittany---07-24-Statement

cracks me up. My boyfriend and his business partners are looking for an up and coming R & B artist? Wasn't Tone a full time college student who promoted bands with his roommate? Who would ever think of being a band promoter around a college campus?

My son belongs to a car club and promotes their car shows. I wonder if he is looking for an up and coming race car driver. I think I will ask him. :lol:

[jammies]

Morning, Des.

Love how she says "boyfriend and business partner" but doesn't stop her from having sex with Ricardo one last time. What a pig.


ETA, with Caylee most likely in the same bed.

[desmom]

Morning Jammies.

I spent time yesterday going through some of Casey's friends statements to LE. Many of Casey's friends from her old group - the Daly brothers, Brittany Schieber, Christ Stutz...all said Casey was a great mom. Several of them attended Caylee's 2nd birthday party and only seen Caylee a few times after the party. The majority of these friends were friendships that began back in high school.

Sometime after Caylee turned 2, Casey started to drift away from this group and moved on to a new group of friends... Ricardo, Troy, Amy. I think it is a pretty normal thing. A lot happens between 18 - 22 years old. Some go off to college, some have children and responsibility... tastes and priorities change.

In the beginning, I think Casey took Caylee with her when she was around her Amy, Ricardo and crew. I think overall this group did not have a problem with Caylee being around.There would be times their outings would not be appropriate for a 2 year old..i.e. bar hopping and Casey would either leave Caylee with Cindy/George or she would have to stay home with Caylee.

Casey then moves on to another new group ... Tone & friends. I think this group did not have a problem with Caylee being around either. I do think they realized the apartment of 2-3 college guys was not an ideal situation for a soon to be 3 year old. Casey must have realized it also because Caylee was only there a few times.

I think Casey was envious of Amy, Ricardo, Troy, Tone and friends' freedom to go and come as they please. I wonder if Cindy was also pushing Casey to accept more responsibility for Caylee i.e. find a sitter because I am not watching her every night, you are her mother so be her mother etc.

As an infant, Caylee would have been easy to haul around - Casey could park her in her infant seat and she would always know where Caylee was. Also, at that age, they do not talk. Soon to be 3 year olds do not park well. In fact, I do not think you can park a soon to be 3 year old...it just goes against their nature. And talk, boy can they talk.

Caylee was becoming a thorn in Casey's side. I think Casey saw Caylee as a barrier. I think a combination of things lead to whatever happened to Caylee, but I think the final straw was when Casey could not go to PR. Could Casey have asked her mom on June 15 to keep Caylee so she could go to PR and Cindy said no?

just thinking out loud and jmo

[desmom]

Sorry for the rambling above. Something I read on another board gave me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and I can't seem to shake it.

Casey's old friends talked about what a great mom she was with Caylee. Amy/Ricardo and team said the same thing.

Then you have Maria Kissh's statement to LE. (Maria is the girlfriend of Tone's roommate, Clint.) She said Caylee was the one that opened the door for her at the apartment, Caylee was on the 2nd floor balcony unattended, Casey left Caylee with a room full of strangers while she went to the bedroom with Tone. IMO, not very good behavior for Mother of the Year.

What if Casey's mother of the year performance was all show? We have seen her text message/phone call history, there is no way she could be a great mother to Caylee and spend that much time on the phone.

jmo

[Lavinia]

One year ago today.....June 9, 2008


<SNIPPED AND BOLDED TO ADDRESS>

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:29 p.m.: How’re you feeling today?

Amy to Casey: Pretty good. Still sad, but physically fine.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:31 p.m.: The sadness will surpass. Glad you’re not sore.

Amy to Casey: Me too. I just tidied the boys place and I’m doing laundry. Trying to stay busy bit it’s hard when not at home.

.

Looks like Casey was trying to use one of those multisyllabic word thingys again. :laugh:

[jammies]

des,
Regarding PR, didn't Cindy say something about Casey wanting to go to PR but Cindy would not pay?? I swear she made a statement about that somewhere along the line. ?????

I remember the statement by Maria and yes it was chilling. Casey was good at putting on an act as MOTY but when it came to her dealings with men/sex/partying....Caylee was an afterthought.


I have NO DOUBT that Caylee was telling Grandma some things that were disturbing. My neighbor is 3 yrs. old....took forever for her to talk....now she tells EVERYTHING. This is from a kid who didn't say a word until just THREE. Caylee seemed to talk very well for her age judging from the video on Father's Day. I can imagine Cindy grilling her on "who, what, where". (heck...so would I)

[Elle]

Sorry for the rambling above. Something I read on another board gave me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and I can't seem to shake it.

Casey's old friends talked about what a great mom she was with Caylee. Amy/Ricardo and team said the same thing.

Then you have Maria Kissh's statement to LE. (Maria is the girlfriend of Tone's roommate, Clint.) She said Caylee was the one that opened the door for her at the apartment, Caylee was on the 2nd floor balcony unattended, Casey left Caylee with a room full of strangers while she went to the bedroom with Tone. IMO, not very good behavior for Mother of the Year.

What if Casey's mother of the year performance was all show? We have seen her text message/phone call history, there is no way she could be a great mother to Caylee and spend that much time on the phone.

jmo


I believe that to 'appear' to be a good mom for a few hours at a time here and there is easy. I do not place much stock in Casey's friends saying she was a good mom, they are all young, most likely more interested in their own lives, and I would bet not paying all that much attention to Casyey's mothering skills. I also do not put much stock in Jesse's saying she was a good mom, IMO, Casey put on a show to impress him. Casey imo, was nothing more than a part time babysitter. She does not deserve the title mother.

George and Cindy on the stand at the bond hearing spoke of Casey and her 'mothering', each stating how good she is with Caylee, how she would get down on her level, bla, bla , bla. George spoke of how wonderful she was as a mom to the detectives, then following it up with Casey and Caylee getting up between 9:30 and 10, him feeding Caylee, him playing with Caylee, him taking care of Caylee, no mention of Casey doing a da*n thing. We know too that Casey would often drop Caylee off at Cindy's work, or be home when Cindy arrived home from work. There was only a couple of hours inbetween when George left for work, and when she could then have Cindy take over. When was Casey a mother?
imo

[desmom]

des,
Regarding PR, didn't Cindy say something about Casey wanting to go to PR but Cindy would not pay?? I swear she made a statement about that somewhere along the line. ?????

I remember the statement by Maria and yes it was chilling. Casey was good at putting on an act as MOTY but when it came to her dealings with men/sex/partying....Caylee was an afterthought.


I have NO DOUBT that Caylee was telling Grandma some things that were disturbing. My neighbor is 3 yrs. old....took forever for her to talk....now she tells EVERYTHING. This is from a kid who didn't say a word until just THREE. Caylee seemed to talk very well for her age judging from the video on Father's Day. I can imagine Cindy grilling her on "who, what, where". (heck...so would I)

I remember Cindy saying something about money and the PR trip. While looking I ran across this:

Cindy Anthony on NG 9/02/08 Show: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

.....Have to follow up on, you know, agencies that are supposed to be following up. I had one the other day that called missing persons in Dallas and the guy said he was waiting for Orange County for the last month to tell him it was OK to follow up on a tip.

So I spend a lot of my time chasing other authorities trying to make sure they follow up on tips people have called in. And I only have about three or four dozen tips called in to me that have already been called in to other authorities.

Why would LE in Dallas need permission from OCSO to follow up on a tip? :rolleyes:

[cassidy]

Looks like Casey was trying to use one of those multisyllabic word thingys again. :laugh:

LOL I was just going to comment on that. Must be a family trait :)

JMO

[desmom]

I believe that to 'appear' to be a good mom for a few hours at a time here and there is easy. I do not place much stock in Casey's friends saying she was a good mom, they are all young, most likely more interested in their own lives, and I would bet not paying all that much attention to Casyey's mothering skills. I also do not put much stock in Jesse's saying she was a good mom, IMO, Casey put on a show to impress him. Casey imo, was nothing more than a part time babysitter. She does not deserve the title mother.

George and Cindy on the stand at the bond hearing spoke of Casey and her 'mothering', each stating how good she is with Caylee, how she would get down on her level, bla, bla , bla. George spoke of how wonderful she was as a mom to the detectives, then following it up with Casey and Caylee getting up between 9:30 and 10, him feeding Caylee, him playing with Caylee, him taking care of Caylee, no mention of Casey doing a da*n thing. We know too that Casey would often drop Caylee off at Cindy's work, or be home when Cindy arrived home from work. There was only a couple of hours inbetween when George left for work, and when she could then have Cindy take over. When was Casey a mother?
imo


Yep for Casey being such a good mom, it does seem G & C did a whole lot of parenting of Caylee.

jmo

[cassidy]

I remember Cindy saying something about money and the PR trip. While looking I ran across this:

Cindy Anthony on NG 9/02/08 Show: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

.....Have to follow up on, you know, agencies that are supposed to be following up. I had one the other day that called missing persons in Dallas and the guy said he was waiting for Orange County for the last month to tell him it was OK to follow up on a tip.

So I spend a lot of my time chasing other authorities trying to make sure they follow up on tips people have called in. And I only have about three or four dozen tips called in to me that have already been called in to other authorities.

Why would LE in Dallas need permission from OCSO to follow up on a tip? :rolleyes:

Because Cindy said so? :rolleyes:

[Lavinia]

LOL I was just going to comment on that. Must be a family trait :)

JMO

Maybe they need to conversate about their pronunciation? :laugh:

[msgatorslayer]

It doesn't take much, IMO, for these young adults Casey hung with to think she was a good/great Mom. Seeing Casey playing with her, some hugs, 'love ya', giving her a snack, etc.

As long as nobody seen her neglecting Caylee alot or hurting her, they'd think she was a good Mom.

G'morning, everyone!!!

[breezie]

Maybe they need to conversate about their pronunciation? :laugh:

nothing like an Anthony to get all vocabulary on you... :tonguewag:

[desmom]

I was reading the transcript of Cindy's 8/04 interview with LE. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf The interview when LE asked Cindy to raise her right hand, she said she did not know this was a depo and she did not have to swear to anything on Friday.

Cindy gave LE her cell phone so they could retrieve the text messages from Casey. Did we ever see those? TIA

ETA ~ We have only seen a couple transcripts of LE interviews with the A's. I would think LE would have questioned them numerous times.

[Sun]

I was reading the transcript of Cindy's 8/04 interview with LE. http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf The interview when LE asked Cindy to raise her right hand, she said she did not know this was a depo and she did not have to swear to anything on Friday.

Cindy gave LE her cell phone so they could retrieve the text messages from Casey. Did we ever see those? TIA

ETA ~ We have only seen a couple transcripts of LE interviews with the A's. I would think LE would have questioned them numerous times.

Good morning desmom! I do believe that LE had conversations many times with Cindy, and perhaps those detectives will testify in court as to some of those conversations. There may be quite a few interesting details learned by LE early in their investigation.

There are quite a number of txtmsgs that haven't yet been disclosed through the Discovery Process. Either those are being used in an on-going investigation, or they weren't able to be recovered.

[jammies]

I remember Cindy saying something about money and the PR trip. While looking I ran across this:

Cindy Anthony on NG 9/02/08 Show: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

.....Have to follow up on, you know, agencies that are supposed to be following up. I had one the other day that called missing persons in Dallas and the guy said he was waiting for Orange County for the last month to tell him it was OK to follow up on a tip.

So I spend a lot of my time chasing other authorities trying to make sure they follow up on tips people have called in. And I only have about three or four dozen tips called in to me that have already been called in to other authorities.





Why would LE in Dallas need permission from OCSO to follow up on a tip? :rolleyes:


Cindy: making it up as she goes along and up to her ears in BS. Always someone elses fault: this particular moment it was LE.

[ish]

just catching up on yesterdays posts, my suggestion for the amusements during the trial, a "dunk the Anthony's" attraction. We hire G&C&lee lookalikes and put them in the dunk tank, then sell three balls for $1 and let people take aim and try to dunk an Anthony. I suspect Cindy will be most popular.

June 9th, the original date of Caylee's abduction by the crazed nanny.
In reality it was the start of the last week of Caylee's life.

[101Spots]

Maybe they need to conversate about their pronunciation? :laugh:

I think they need to pronunciate about their conversations.:tonguewag:

[Barbara fl.]

Sorry for the rambling above. Something I read on another board gave me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and I can't seem to shake it.

Casey's old friends talked about what a great mom she was with Caylee. Amy/Ricardo and team said the same thing.

Then you have Maria Kissh's statement to LE. (Maria is the girlfriend of Tone's roommate, Clint.) She said Caylee was the one that opened the door for her at the apartment, Caylee was on the 2nd floor balcony unattended, Casey left Caylee with a room full of strangers while she went to the bedroom with Tone. IMO, not very good behavior for Mother of the Year.

What if Casey's mother of the year performance was all show? We have seen her text message/phone call history, there is no way she could be a great mother to Caylee and spend that much time on the phone.

jmo


There are so many mothers (so they call themselves) that put up a front as being the best mother in town....I have had my granddaughter since birth...her mother may visit her once a year for maybe a half of day...and one day while I was on the phone with her, she was talking to someone in the background and said "no way, my daughter is all I can handle"...she was talking to someone who asked her if she was going to have any more children....

I couldn't believe what she had said "her daughter is all she can handle?"...she took off when my granddaughter was born.....

So yes, some of these mothers pretend to be good mothers to impress other people....but in reality, they could care less about their child/children.....

[Barbara fl.]

just catching up on yesterdays posts, my suggestion for the amusements during the trial, a "dunk the Anthony's" attraction. We hire G&C&lee lookalikes and put them in the dunk tank, then sell three balls for $1 and let people take aim and try to dunk an Anthony. I suspect Cindy will be most popular.

June 9th, the original date of Caylee's abduction by the crazed nanny.
In reality it was the start of the last week of Caylee's life.


You wouldprobably make enough money to pay the defense...:laugh::laugh:

[desmom]

just catching up on yesterdays posts, my suggestion for the amusements during the trial, a "dunk the Anthony's" attraction. We hire G&C&lee lookalikes and put them in the dunk tank, then sell three balls for $1 and let people take aim and try to dunk an Anthony. I suspect Cindy will be most popular.

June 9th, the original date of Caylee's abduction by the crazed nanny.
In reality it was the start of the last week of Caylee's life.

Gathering the info for the "one year ago today" has been a little hard on the emotions. I completed June 13, the day George had a "mini-stroke" and Casey could not go with Amy to Jacksonville. I don't want to look at June 14 - 16. I know I am looking at Caylee's last days and Casey's lies.

:rose: Caylee

[desmom]

Hmm, I guess CW wants us to have a new thread today. Thank you Penguinlady! :seeya:

One year ago today....June 9, 2008


Message left for Brittany Schieber on her myspace page from Casey: 6/9/08 7:07 Hey girl! Quick question… do you know any girls, that can sing? my boyfriend Tony, and his business partners are looking for an up and coming female R&B artist let me know!!! i appreciate it. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643358/Schiener-Brittany---07-24-Statement

Casey picked up Tone at school and took him to pick up his Jeep. Caylee was with Casey. Tone followed Casey back to his apartment and they went to Subway, Casey bought the sandwiches. http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf

Casey and Caylee show up at Ricardo’s after he got off work at 8:00 p.m. and spent the night. This is the last night Ricardo and Casey were intimate. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1643158/Morales-Ricardo---Statement

Text messages between Casey and Amy: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:27 p.m. What time do you work today?

Amy to Casey: 5

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:29 p.m.: How’re you feeling today?

Amy to Casey: Pretty good. Still sad, but physically fine.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:31 p.m.: The sadness will surpass. Glad you’re not sore.

Amy to Casey: Me too. I just tidied the boys place and I’m doing laundry. Trying to stay busy bit it’s hard when not at home.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:35 p.m.: Yeah I know that feeling. What time are you off tonight?

Amy to Casey: No idea. I’ll have a better idea when I get there. Earliest 8 latest 12.

Casey to Amy 06/09 12:38 p.m.: Alright cool. I’m staying at the boys tonight so we can all hang out.

Amy to Casey: Awesome!

Casey to Amy 06/09 3:36 p.m.: Caylee just pooped in her potty for the first time!

Casey to Amy 06/09 3:43 p.m.: Sorry. Proud momma moment.

Amy to Casey: I’m proud too! Congrads!

Casey to Amy 06/09 8:00 p.m.: What time are you getting off?

Amy to Casey: Should only be 10 more min. Sweep, sort silver, and check out.

[penguinlady]

Thank you Desmom for keeping us up with the events of last year. I know that it is sad to go back and see all of Casey's behaviors in hindsight.

Poor Caylee :rose:

K!

PS~ That was weird...I guess this thread got merged! LOL!

[Sun]

I've been thinking just a little about the latest Defense Motion, to postpone the Jail Video issue in the court for at least 60 days.

Will the Judge allow such a thing? Seems like it would circumvent the Sunshine Law. However, I have no legal knowledge how all of this works, and would love to hear from those who have ideas.

[101Spots]

Now we're all back on Monday (part Tuesday). Do we get frequent flyer miles for this trip?

[Sun]

Casey Anthony's defense team wants judge to delay jail video release decision
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-jail-video-060809,0,3034256.story

The five-page motion lists various media reports during the last year that cited "sources close to the investigation." The leaks lead to reports that will prevent Anthony from receiving a fair trial, according to the legal documents.

Didn't JB argue a motion regarding leaks earlier this year and the judge denied it? I do remember JB argued the prosecution's request for a gag order on this case.

I think JB needs to also look in their own backyard. Off the top of my head wasn't it LKB that described the color/length of hair found with the remains in a motion hearing? Didn't Cindy Anthony tell us about the pizza (box) that was in the trunk of the car? Didn't Lee tell the media about tracking the ZFG phone calls Casey said she received and the next day or two the media reported there were no ZFG phone calls?

IMO, the sources or leaks are running on both sides of the table. JB should have not fought the gag order.

jmo

I wonder if there is anywhere that I could find the 5-page motion?

[Unleashed]

Now we're all back on Monday (part Tuesday). Do we get frequent flyer miles for this trip?

Lordy, I hope so. I'm going to need them to get down for the trial. Don't want to have to start pole dancing! :scared:

JMO

[desmom]

I wonder if there is anywhere that I could find the 5-page motion?

I am surprised one of the media websites have not posted it.

[Sun]

Perhaps one of the media will publish a link today.

[Lavinia]

nothing like an Anthony to get all vocabulary on you... :tonguewag:

Those are sure some edumacated vocabularists, they is. :blink: They must enunciate up a storm when they transportate down to the cement pond.

[desmom]

Perhaps one of the media will publish a link today.

Casey Anthony: Defense team decries state's 'orchestrated' leaks
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/06/casey-anthony-defense-team-decries-states-orchestrated-leaks.html

DeForest cited the defense's claim of inappropriate leaks to his WKMG colleague Jessica D'Onofrio and other reporters. DeForest noted that the defense complained that the media were tipped to the discovery of chloroform in Anthony's car before lab tests revealed it.

Was this filed because of Dr. Baden's slip on Geraldo?

article about Baden's oops moment: http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2009/03/chloroform-inside-caylee-anthonys-hair.html

video of Baden's oops moment on Geraldo's show: http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m3d16-Video-Dr-Baden-confirms-chloroform-found-in-Caylee-Anthonys-hair

Isn't Jessica D'Onofrio Cindy's buddy?

[breezie]

I am surprised one of the media websites have not posted it.

Probably still trying to decipher what Bozo means. I guess he took his big boy pants off and needs Lyons there to argue for him now...lol.

[Sun]

From what I've seen, some of the Orlando reporters/media are quite good at their jobs. They sure seem to put in lots and lots of hours, just to get the stories. I think that they also have recognized at how inexperienced Baez is, and have got him to talk way, way more than an attorney should ever talk. Baez, himself, went on camera the night of December 11th, and disclosed that Casey had received a sedative.

[Pretty Leaf]

We could call on Milsteads for fund-raising ideas, or we could just pass the hat in the stadium, asking a dollar donation per person (or more if your heart feels like it).

Isn't that kind of the way Milsteads do it?

Every time I see the name Milsteads I read it as Misdeeds seems a better name for them.

[breezie]

Every time I see the name Milsteads I read it as Misdeeds seems a better name for them.

Aren't they going to foreclose on the Milsteads house soon?

[Sun]

Wasn't it the State that was in the courtroom late last year, asking the Judge for a Gag Order? And, Baez objected. And, the media objected.

Is Baez now objecting to too much media coverage, simply because it shows his client only in a very, very negative light?

I recall quite clearly, KBelich asking Baez on the night of Dec 11th, if Casey had received a sedative, and Baez opened up HIS BIG MOUTH and said that Casey had received a sedative. ....just because the press asks a question, doesn't really mean that they know it is a fact, but maybe she just simply "tricked" Baez into disclosing this info. Baez sure doesn't seem to like KBelich much. LOL

[breezie]

Wasn't it the State that was in the courtroom late last year, asking the Judge for a Gag Order? And, Baez objected. And, the media objected.

Is Baez now objecting to too much media coverage, simply because it shows his client only in a very, very negative light?

I recall quite clearly, KBelich asking Baez on the night of Dec 11th, if Casey had received a sedative, and Baez opened up HIS BIG MOUTH and said that Casey had received a sedative. ....just because the press asks a question, doesn't really mean that they know it is a fact, but maybe she just simply "tricked" Baez into disclosing this info. Baez sure doesn't seem to like KBelich much. LOL

that's because she's the only one asking hard questions and she has his number..lol. I love watching him bristle with her. She's a pro!

[desmom]

Wasn't it the State that was in the courtroom late last year, asking the Judge for a Gag Order? And, Baez objected. And, the media objected.

Is Baez now objecting to too much media coverage, simply because it shows his client only in a very, very negative light?

I recall quite clearly, KBelich asking Baez on the night of Dec 11th, if Casey had received a sedative, and Baez opened up HIS BIG MOUTH and said that Casey had received a sedative. ....just because the press asks a question, doesn't really mean that they know it is a fact, but maybe she just simply "tricked" Baez into disclosing this info. Baez sure doesn't seem to like KBelich much. LOL

Yes. Yes. :biggrin:

I think Cindy knew a lot of things also. Back in September, Lenny the Bounty Hunter was on NG. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

He said Well, here's the situation, Nancy. I believe that when the FBI, who's got one of the finest labs in the world comes back with the DNA it's going to shock the world over something that Lee, Casey and Cindy have known since Wednesday when they released their preliminary.

Lenny was talking about DNA, but I think the preliminary he mentions is the FBI's preliminary report re chloroform, decomp etc.

I did a quick run through the old links thread and most of the articles at that time reported "a source close to the investigation". IMO, that source did not have to be LE. It could have been Lee or Cindy. My money is on Cindy.

jmo

[Dick Tracy]

Good Morning from Sunny Seattle!

When the air samples come into evidence at the trial, how will the defense attack that? Will they acknowledge the evidence? Or will they dispute it, with LKB bringing in her own expert witness?

Speaking of expert witnesses, a trial that will obviously or at least appears to be a long trial in length, where is the defense going to get the money for the expert witnesses? They have to have some, if they're going to attack the forensics in this case. Will it be funneled in from Connecticut? PB?

[breezie]

Good Morning from Sunny Seattle!

When the air samples come into evidence at the trial, how will the defense attack that? Will they acknowledge the evidence? Or will they dispute it, with LKB bringing in her own expert witness?

Speaking of expert witnesses, a trial that will obviously or at least appears to be a long trial in length, where is the defense going to get the money for the expert witnesses? They have to have some, if they're going to attack the forensics in this case. Will it be funneled in from Connecticut? PB?

the will call it *junk science*... but mainly they will try to have it suppressed as evidence at trial as new and untested.

[Unleashed]

Probably still trying to decipher what Bozo means. I guess he took his big boy pants off and needs Lyons there to argue for him now...lol.
my bold

Now there's a vision no-one needs.


JMO

[Sun]

Yes. Yes. :biggrin:

I think Cindy knew a lot of things also. Back in September, Lenny the Bounty Hunter was on NG. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

He said Well, here's the situation, Nancy. I believe that when the FBI, who's got one of the finest labs in the world comes back with the DNA it's going to shock the world over something that Lee, Casey and Cindy have known since Wednesday when they released their preliminary.

Lenny was talking about DNA, but I think the preliminary he mentions is the FBI's preliminary report re chloroform, decomp etc.

I did a quick run through the old links thread and most of the articles at that time reported "a source close to the investigation". IMO, that source did not have to be LE. It could have been Lee or Cindy. My money is on Cindy.

jmo

chuckles... I just love LPadilla, and the way that he can get folks talking about something. He sure likes to throw stuff out there, then sit back and watch what develops. A "learned skill" in his trade of bounty hunting.

[AMS]

Those are sure some edumacated vocabularists, they is. :blink: They must enunciate up a storm when they transportate down to the cement pond.

Totalutley!!

imo

[desmom]

Good Morning from Sunny Seattle!

When the air samples come into evidence at the trial, how will the defense attack that? Will they acknowledge the evidence? Or will they dispute it, with LKB bringing in her own expert witness?

--snipped--

Could this be a hint? http://www.wesh.com/news/17314603/detail.html

"I have not been given any information about the University of Tennessee or the Body Farm or whatever they are calling themselves nowdays," Baez said. "I don't even know if they have any evidence."

:lol:

[Dick Tracy]

the will call it *junk science*... but mainly they will try to have it suppressed as evidence at trial as new and untested.

Hmmm interesting. But of course, the 911 tape where CA blurts out "smells like theres been a dead body in the damned car" isn't going to help the defense too much.

[desmom]

chuckles... I just love LPadilla, and the way that he can get folks talking about something. He sure likes to throw stuff out there, then sit back and watch what develops. A "learned skill" in his trade of bounty hunting.

Yea ole' Lenny is a character. He throws all kind of fluff out there. IMO there are some facts buried in all that fluff and you just have to look for it.

[breezie]

Yea ole' Lenny is a character. He throws all kind of fluff out there. IMO there are some facts buried in all that fluff and you just have to look for it.

Wish Lenny would disclose who brought him into this case besides Baez.

[Dick Tracy]

Could this be a hint? http://www.wesh.com/news/17314603/detail.html

"I have not been given any information about the University of Tennessee or the Body Farm or whatever they are calling themselves nowdays," Baez said. "I don't even know if they have any evidence."

:lol:

"Cindy Anthony, originally told investigators that her daughter's car smelled like a dead body, but later the Anthonys argued that it was a combination of rotting pizza and cleaning fluid left in the hot car for 15 days that was responsible for the smell."

The waterboy sure seems out of touch with things going on. I'm sure he knows now that they HAVE EVIDENCE. Geesh.

[KittyMom]

I've been thinking about Caylee and what she would've been like. I remember always hearing about the terrible twos. I never saw changes at 2 but did note behavior changes at 3. In fact, my middle baby was always such a good baby. She hardly ever cried, was very affectionate. She was just an "easy" baby. Until she turned 3. Suddenly, it was like she was possessed. She would throw these fits with screaming and laying in the floor kicking her feet. I was so scared something was terribly wrong with her. I remember a close friend just laughing at me. It only lasted 4 or 5 months but WOWSERS.

When children go through that phase along with potty training, it can be a very trying time for a mom. You just can't reason with the child. You really have to be very patient. Somehow I don't see Casey having the emotional/behavioral maturity to handle a potty training child experimenting with being independent.

[KittyMom]

Totalutley!!

imo

:laugh: Ya'll are killing me.

[ish]

You know, if the state of Florida was smart, they would COV to Tampa, use Tampa Stadium Monday thru Friday for the trial, and charge 10 bucks a pop to get in to the general public. Hell, I'd go.

They'd make all there money back, and THEN SOME.

KING: Weird.

they don't even need a jury, the audience can vote Thumbs up or down. I think a crowd that big should have enough "open" minds, to ensure a fair trial.:thumbdown:

[Sun]

Could this be a hint? http://www.wesh.com/news/17314603/detail.html

"I have not been given any information about the University of Tennessee or the Body Farm or whatever they are calling themselves nowdays," Baez said. "I don't even know if they have any evidence."

:lol:

Seems to me that Baez is uneducated and quite dumb about the way to get things from the FBI. Perhaps he should be deposing some of the State's witnesses, and not just sitting back and expecting the State to drop everything in his lap.

[ish]

Hmmm interesting. But of course, the 911 tape where CA blurts out "smells like theres been a dead body in the damned car" isn't going to help the defense too much.

Cindy now tries to explain that statement by saying she said "anything to get the police there quicker' hey Cindy how about "my grand daughter is missing" of course that was 31 day old news, why would the police rush, your daughter certainly didn't.

[ish]

You wouldprobably make enough money to pay the defense...:laugh::laugh:

I better stop, don't want to give them ideas!!!

[desmom]

Seems to me that Baez is uneducated and quite dumb about the way to get things from the FBI. Perhaps he should be deposing some of the State's witnesses, and not just sitting back and expecting the State to drop everything in his lap.

JB has definitely shown his lack of experience in some of his motions and his behavior in the court room. jmo

ETA ~ Thinking back to JB questioning the CSI guy, I am not sure he could handle a depo. jmo

[Sun]

The dog indicated that there was decomp in the trunk of the car. Cindy indicated that the damn car smelled like a dead body. George indicated that the smell coming from the stain in the trunk smelled like decomp. Testimony by LE in the Bond Hearing, indicated that there was an odor of decomp in the trunk. ....whew, and this is all before even considering all the forensic testing done on the car.

There will be no doubt in the Jury's mind, that there was a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. None.

Baez came right out and stated that the Pontiac was Casey's car, that she had sole possession of it. ....in one of the early hearings. The evidence from the car is going to point directly to Casey. And, only Casey, IMO.

[ish]

reading back at some of the texts that Casey and Amy sent to each other, Casey seems very caught up in TonE's job, trying to hustle a singer, inviting people to Fusion etc. I wonder if she got caught up in her "event planner" personality and started thinking she could manufacture a career or at least a job out of helping th boyfriend. She had talked a good game up to that point as far as her work was concerned and here was a chance to actually do something, show her parents she wasn't just a failure and a high school dropout. certainly no reason to get rid of her child but could she have thought this was her moment? Personally I don't think working at a club, managing the shot girls and the wet t shirt contests, while your boyfriend DJ'S is much of a career but that's just me.

[saywhat04]

Looks like Casey was trying to use one of those multisyllabic word thingys again. :laugh:

A regular jeeneeus, that one. :rolleyes:

[KittyMom]

The dog indicated that there was decomp in the trunk of the car. Cindy indicated that the damn car smelled like a dead body. George indicated that the smell coming from the stain in the trunk smelled like decomp. Testimony by LE in the Bond Hearing, indicated that there was an odor of decomp in the trunk. ....whew, and this is all before even considering all the forensic testing done on the car.

There will be no doubt in the Jury's mind, that there was a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. None.

Baez came right out and stated that the Pontiac was Casey's car, that she had sole possession of it. ....in one of the early hearings. The evidence from the car is going to point directly to Casey. And, only Casey, IMO.

If Baez goes after the car, I think pros should roll that sucker into the courtroom and let the jury figure out if they're smelling decomp or pizza. :sneaky:

[saywhat04]

I remember Cindy saying something about money and the PR trip. While looking I ran across this:

Cindy Anthony on NG 9/02/08 Show: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

.....Have to follow up on, you know, agencies that are supposed to be following up. I had one the other day that called missing persons in Dallas and the guy said he was waiting for Orange County for the last month to tell him it was OK to follow up on a tip.

So I spend a lot of my time chasing other authorities trying to make sure they follow up on tips people have called in. And I only have about three or four dozen tips called in to me that have already been called in to other authorities.

Why would LE in Dallas need permission from OCSO to follow up on a tip? :rolleyes:

Ah, yes. I remember that. Just another moment among hundreds when I wanted to slap the cr@p out of Cindy.

[KittyMom]

they don't even need a jury, the audience can vote Thumbs up or down. I think a crowd that big should have enough "open" minds, to ensure a fair trial.:thumbdown:

A twisted American Idol type trial. Here's my vote :thumbdown:

[saywhat04]

just catching up on yesterdays posts, my suggestion for the amusements during the trial, a "dunk the Anthony's" attraction. We hire G&C&lee lookalikes and put them in the dunk tank, then sell three balls for $1 and let people take aim and try to dunk an Anthony. I suspect Cindy will be most popular.

June 9th, the original date of Caylee's abduction by the crazed nanny.
In reality it was the start of the last week of Caylee's life.

Bolding mine ...

How about if whenever someone hits the lever above George or Lee, it dunks Cindy instead? :laugh:

[saywhat04]

Gathering the info for the "one year ago today" has been a little hard on the emotions. I completed June 13, the day George had a "mini-stroke" and Casey could not go with Amy to Jacksonville. I don't want to look at June 14 - 16. I know I am looking at Caylee's last days and Casey's lies.

:rose: Caylee

Hugs for you, desmom. :wub:

I was thinking the same thing. The 15th/16th of this month are going to be difficult for many of us.

[Sun]

If Baez goes after the car, I think pros should roll that sucker into the courtroom and let the jury figure out if they're smelling decomp or pizza. :sneaky:

And, if Baez goes after the "anyone and everyone" had access to the car, how is he going to prove that? From what I know, only Cindy & George, and Casey had keys to the car. Casey "said" that Jesse also had a key, however Casey can't be believed to tell a truth. Jesse denied having a key.

[adair]

We can have a special appearance by ZGF!! Signing autographs, getting your picture taken with the famous Zanny! Theres tons of money to be made!


I see one of those stands with a lady who looks like a 10, but it has the face cut out......so ANYBODY could be Zanny!!!

[Katprint]

Cindy now tries to explain that statement by saying she said "anything to get the police there quicker' hey Cindy how about "my grand daughter is missing" of course that was 31 day old news, why would the police rush, your daughter certainly didn't. <bolding mine>

I remember a few years ago here in northern California when a woman was prosecuted for telling the police that her baby had been her car when it was stolen, which was not true i.e. her baby was not in her car when it was stolen. She knew the police would work much more urgently trying to find her car, including issuing Amber alerts etc., if they thought they were trying to protect a baby. Happily, her baby was fine and had never been in danger.

If Baez goes after the car, I think pros should roll that sucker into the courtroom and let the jury figure out if they're smelling decomp or pizza. :sneaky:

I think the Anthonys should start blaming the bad smell in Casey's car on previously-spilled milk. Spoiled milk smells terrible, unlike leftover pizza or empty pizza boxes which the common experience of most people including members of the likely jury pool is that those items don't stink. If the bad smell was coming from Caylee's carseat area, then spilled sippy cup milk could be blamed. If the bad smell was coming from the trunk, then a leaky milk carton in a load of groceries could be blamed. If I were trying to shake the body farm air sample results, I would ask (before trial, NOT for the first time in front of the jury!) about what tests they had done to determine the chemical gaseous composition of various decomposing food products alone and in combination with various cleaning supplies possibly used to clean up spilled food products.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[seeing_eye]

I believe that to 'appear' to be a good mom for a few hours at a time here and there is easy. I do not place much stock in Casey's friends saying she was a good mom, they are all young, most likely more interested in their own lives, and I would bet not paying all that much attention to Casyey's mothering skills. I also do not put much stock in Jesse's saying she was a good mom, IMO, Casey put on a show to impress him. Casey imo, was nothing more than a part time babysitter. She does not deserve the title mother.

George and Cindy on the stand at the bond hearing spoke of Casey and her 'mothering', each stating how good she is with Caylee, how she would get down on her level, bla, bla , bla. George spoke of how wonderful she was as a mom to the detectives, then following it up with Casey and Caylee getting up between 9:30 and 10, him feeding Caylee, him playing with Caylee, him taking care of Caylee, no mention of Casey doing a da*n thing. We know too that Casey would often drop Caylee off at Cindy's work, or be home when Cindy arrived home from work. There was only a couple of hours inbetween when George left for work, and when she could then have Cindy take over. When was Casey a mother?
imo

You're right. George said he and Cindy watched Caylee 90% of the time. Cindy said she had 2 daughters. Cindy paid for everything for Caylee (as well as Casey). From this description, it seems to me that Cindy was the mother of Caylee. So that just leaves Casey to be the babysitter, the nanny, or Zanny who happens to be a 10.

[KittyMom]

I see one of those stands with a lady who looks like a 10, but it has the face cut out......so ANYBODY could be Zanny!!!

oh, now that's an idea!!! :thumbsup:

[101Spots]

reading back at some of the texts that Casey and Amy sent to each other, Casey seems very caught up in TonE's job, trying to hustle a singer, inviting people to Fusion etc. I wonder if she got caught up in her "event planner" personality and started thinking she could manufacture a career or at least a job out of helping th boyfriend. She had talked a good game up to that point as far as her work was concerned and here was a chance to actually do something, show her parents she wasn't just a failure and a high school dropout. certainly no reason to get rid of her child but could she have thought this was her moment? Personally I don't think working at a club, managing the shot girls and the wet t shirt contests, while your boyfriend DJ'S is much of a career but that's just me.

Nope. Just sucking up to TonE, trying to make it seem that she was indispensable to him and his success at Fusion. Same song as cleaning and cooking for him at home, just slightly different lyrics.

[desmom]

reading back at some of the texts that Casey and Amy sent to each other, Casey seems very caught up in TonE's job, trying to hustle a singer, inviting people to Fusion etc. I wonder if she got caught up in her "event planner" personality and started thinking she could manufacture a career or at least a job out of helping th boyfriend. She had talked a good game up to that point as far as her work was concerned and here was a chance to actually do something, show her parents she wasn't just a failure and a high school dropout. certainly no reason to get rid of her child but could she have thought this was her moment? Personally I don't think working at a club, managing the shot girls and the wet t shirt contests, while your boyfriend DJ'S is much of a career but that's just me.

I think Casey was in Snag-a-hubby mode. page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

Tone had made it very clear to Casey he was going back to NY. She was trying to prove how helpful she could be for Tone. IIRC, even his friends teased him about Casey being "the one".

jmo

[KittyMom]

<bolding mine>

I remember a few years ago here in northern California when a woman was prosecuted for telling the police that her baby had been her car when it was stolen, which was not true i.e. her baby was not in her car when it was stolen. She knew the police would work much more urgently trying to find her car, including issuing Amber alerts etc., if they thought they were trying to protect a baby. Happily, her baby was fine and had never been in danger.



I think the Anthonys should start blaming the bad smell in Casey's car on previously-spilled milk. Spoiled milk smells terrible, unlike leftover pizza or empty pizza boxes which the common experience of most people including members of the likely jury pool is that those items don't stink. If the bad smell was coming from Caylee's carseat area, then spilled sippy cup milk could be blamed. If the bad smell was coming from the trunk, then a leaky milk carton in a load of groceries could be blamed. If I were trying to shake the body farm air sample results, I would ask (before trial, NOT for the first time in front of the jury!) about what tests they had done to determine the chemical gaseous composition of various decomposing food products alone and in combination with various cleaning supplies possibly used to clean up spilled food products.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Human decomp is one of those smells you never forget. Worse than an animal or any type of rotten food. I wonder if Baez will question potential jurors as to whether they've ever smelled decomp.

[Katprint]

I've been thinking about Caylee and what she would've been like. I remember always hearing about the terrible twos. I never saw changes at 2 but did note behavior changes at 3. In fact, my middle baby was always such a good baby. She hardly ever cried, was very affectionate. She was just an "easy" baby. Until she turned 3. Suddenly, it was like she was possessed. She would throw these fits with screaming and laying in the floor kicking her feet. I was so scared something was terribly wrong with her. I remember a close friend just laughing at me. It only lasted 4 or 5 months but WOWSERS.

When children go through that phase along with potty training, it can be a very trying time for a mom. You just can't reason with the child. You really have to be very patient. Somehow I don't see Casey having the emotional/behavioral maturity to handle a potty training child experimenting with being independent.
Your post brings back memories of when my willful 4 year old was in his terrible twos/threes. I recall him throwing a temper tantrum in a store because I wouldn't buy candy or a toy or something like that. He lay down on his stomach kicking and punching the ground, and then he began banging his forehead against the ground. People literally formed a circle staring down at him.

My brother's son actually learned to scream and cry until he made himself vomit! At which point his mother would usually give in to whatever his demands were... :thumbdown:

Casey had actually bought (or otherwise acquired) a parenting book, and IIRC she had even dogeared the pages about tantrums, so you know there must have been some difficulty going on. I daresay reading books was not an activity that Casey did a lot of.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[saywhat04]

Those are sure some edumacated vocabularists, they is. :blink: They must enunciate up a storm when they transportate down to the cement pond.

I was a huge In Living Color fan, and every time I hear the OC use one of her multi-syllable words, I think of the Damon Wayans character, Oswald Bates. :lol:

http://www.ibeatyou.com/competition/e7f71e/best-in-living-color-skit/entry/dabb68/damon-wayans-as-oswald-bates

[Katprint]

Human decomp is one of those smells you never forget. Worse than an animal or any type of rotten food. I wonder if Baez will question potential jurors as to whether they've ever smelled decomp.
I agree about the uniqueness of the smell of human decomposition. I really do.

However, strategically, I would certainly expect Baez to include that question in the jury voir dire questionaire and to boot off any jurors that had smelled human decomposition. In theory, jurors are supposed to disregard what they know in favor of what experts tell them but of course in practice that is terribly difficult for jurors to do.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[KittyMom]

Your post brings back memories of when my willful 4 year old was in his terrible twos/threes. I recall him throwing a temper tantrum in a store because I wouldn't buy candy or a toy or something like that. He lay down on his stomach kicking and punching the ground, and then he began banging his forehead against the ground. People literally formed a circle staring down at him.

My brother's son actually learned to scream and cry until he made himself vomit! At which point his mother would usually give in to whatever his demands were... :thumbdown:

Casey had actually bought (or otherwise acquired) a parenting book, and IIRC she had even dogeared the pages about tantrums, so you know there must have been some difficulty going on. I daresay reading books was not an activity that Casey did a lot of.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I think about that little tantrum Casey had on the video of the jail visit with the A's. Dealing with a toddler requires so much patience and an understanding that its just a stage of development. I don't see Casey having the desire to deal with it. Especially when she's not capable of restraining her own childish behavior. Poor Caylee. She never really had a chance. :sad:

[seeing_eye]

that's because she's the only one asking hard questions and she has his number..lol. I love watching him bristle with her. She's a pro!

Didn't Baez recently describe KBelich's channel 9 as a "tabloid" tv news channel? Can't recall where I heard that.

[Sandy001]

I know I've posted this before but i still wonder, what would have happened had someone found Caylee earlier, before Cindy ever found Casey, before Caylee was ever reported missing. If a childs body had been found would Casey have come forward from her "bonding vacay" to claim her? would G&C have suspected that body was Caylee?

As far as the 31days, I think Casey started her countdown the day Caylee died and whenever she was caught or tripped up and confronted with the 'where's Caylee' question she would have used that date as her starting point and answered 31, 32, 45,78 or whatever. there is always some truth in Casey's lies.

Sssomehow I don't think that overgrown, swampy area was someplace people gravitated too - other than kids who didn't want to be caught doing things they shsuldn't have been. Besides, the area was flooded after the hurricane and was underwater partially before that. KC would have known the area well from her youth. It's pretty clear that it's not a well visited place.

[desmom]

Your post brings back memories of when my willful 4 year old was in his terrible twos/threes. I recall him throwing a temper tantrum in a store because I wouldn't buy candy or a toy or something like that. He lay down on his stomach kicking and punching the ground, and then he began banging his forehead against the ground. People literally formed a circle staring down at him.

My brother's son actually learned to scream and cry until he made himself vomit! At which point his mother would usually give in to whatever his demands were... :thumbdown:

Casey had actually bought (or otherwise acquired) a parenting book, and IIRC she had even dogeared the pages about tantrums, so you know there must have been some difficulty going on. I daresay reading books was not an activity that Casey did a lot of.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I was just looking at those pics. http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/19105250/detail.html

pics #20 - 23

[adair]

Your post brings back memories of when my willful 4 year old was in his terrible twos/threes. I recall him throwing a temper tantrum in a store because I wouldn't buy candy or a toy or something like that. He lay down on his stomach kicking and punching the ground, and then he began banging his forehead against the ground. People literally formed a circle staring down at him.

My brother's son actually learned to scream and cry until he made himself vomit! At which point his mother would usually give in to whatever his demands were... :thumbdown:

Casey had actually bought (or otherwise acquired) a parenting book, and IIRC she had even dogeared the pages about tantrums, so you know there must have been some difficulty going on. I daresay reading books was not an activity that Casey did a lot of.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


I bet Cin bought that book for kc......

jmo

[KittyMom]

I agree about the uniqueness of the smell of human decomposition. I really do.

However, strategically, I would certainly expect Baez to include that question in the jury voir dire questionaire and to boot off any jurors that had smelled human decomposition. In theory, jurors are supposed to disregard what they know in favor of what experts tell them but of course in practice that is terribly difficult for jurors to do.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I understand. It makes sense for a def atty to do that. And in all honesty, how many people have ever had a situation where they would be exposed to decomp? I would be surprised if anyone other than a first responder or maybe funeral home employee would be a potential juror. I guess maybe someone in military??? Anyway, chances are, very few potential jurors will have a knowledge of the smell of decomp.

I'd still give'em a whiff of the car if I were the pros... :sneaky: lol

[saywhat04]

If Baez goes after the car, I think pros should roll that sucker into the courtroom and let the jury figure out if they're smelling decomp or pizza. :sneaky:

Oh YELL yes! Either bring the car to the jurors, or the jurors to the car. Let them smell for themselves and make up their own minds.

[adair]

Isnt there a plant that smells like human decomp (saw it on csi, so it must be true~LOL)

JB will probably say that kc bought that plant and left it in her trunk.


jmo

[desmom]

Oh YELL yes! Either bring the car to the jurors, or the jurors to the car. Let them smell for themselves and make up their own minds.

Yep, roll up the windows, let it sit in a black asphalt parking lot for a couple of weeks and then bring in the jury. jmo

[KittyMom]

I was just looking at those pics. http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/19105250/detail.html

pics #20 - 23

hmm...on #20 the part about tantrums involving hitting, biting, or other harmful behavior is circled...now, who would've been biten or hit given that Caylee was with Casey most of the time?

[Tia]

I think Casey was in Snag-a-hubby mode. page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

Tone had made it very clear to Casey he was going back to NY. She was trying to prove how helpful she could be for Tone. IIRC, even his friends teased him about Casey being "the one".

jmo

Hi all!
I always thought that too Des, Casey was looking for a hubby. She was trying to be the "perfect" girlfriend, helping with his business, doing laundry, cleaning and cooking. I often wonder if TonE didn't want any children, or had an issue with raising someone else's child. Who know what he talked to Casey about during those late night phone calls.

[Sandy001]

*Bolding to address:

One thing though, Pru. Casey slapping Caylee around might have been the one thing that would have set Cindy into protecting Caylee. It probably would have opened her eyes and set the machine into gear to take custody. I don't think Casey would have gambled with that. That's JMO but as dense as Casey was she had to have realized that she could lose Caylee if she hurt her in front of Cindy. Cindy had already accused her of being a bad mother and it sounds like had put some thought into getting custody. Physical abuse would have given her the ammunition.

The rest...... I simply can not get into Cindy and George's head, they went to get the car and then..... what could they possibly have been thinking???? So used to covering for Casey, believing her stories, keeping the peace, that they wanted time to think it over, put it in the 'it's okay' column even though the truth was obvious??? I understand Casey, I know many Caseys, and I understand some of what probably started Cindy and George along the road that led to where they are now, but I just can't rationalize, with their backgrounds, not acknowledging what was right in their faces at that towyard. If they had, how differently this story might have been played out!


I cn see Cindy slapping Casey for something she DID or DIDN'T do regarding Caylee and then Casey (in secret) slapping Caylee for causing Cindy to slap her (Casey). I think that was (and still is) a VERY SICK hosuehold. Ruled by Cindy.

[101Spots]

I bet Cin bought that book for kc......

jmo

Well, you can sure bet it was Cindy's money, one way or another.

[Sun]

I think Casey was in Snag-a-hubby mode. page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

Tone had made it very clear to Casey he was going back to NY. She was trying to prove how helpful she could be for Tone. IIRC, even his friends teased him about Casey being "the one".

jmo

chuckles.... yes, snag-a-hubby mode! Remember all those Mrs. Casey Lazzaro, Mrs Anthony Lazarro, Casey Lazarro ...doodles. I'd say that Tony owes the Lord bigtime, that Casey didn't become pregnant with his child. Big time!

[ish]

Sssomehow I don't think that overgrown, swampy area was someplace people gravitated too - other than kids who didn't want to be caught doing things they shsuldn't have been. Besides, the area was flooded after the hurricane and was underwater partially before that. KC would have known the area well from her youth. It's pretty clear that it's not a well visited place.

Well that's very true, but circumstances happen, some one could have had a flat tire, or had to go to the bathroom (ala R Kronk). Kronk was there in August. any number of things look how Nevaeh Buchanan was found. ANy how it was just a thought and I do wonder .

[KittyMom]

Isnt there a plant that smells like human decomp (saw it on csi, so it must be true~LOL)

JB will probably say that kc bought that plant and left it in her trunk.


jmo

maybe this...but it says carcass not human decomp :confused:

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0602.htm#carrion

[Barbara fl.]

ISH.....you bring up a very good point and I often wondered that myself...what would Casey have done if Caylee's remains would have been found before she was ever reported?

It could very well have happened....

I'm pretty sure Casey had all intentions of moving the body to a more secure place but probably never had the chance....

I bet she wished now that she had made the time to do that.....

Thank goodness for "Kronk"

[desmom]

Isnt there a plant that smells like human decomp (saw it on csi, so it must be true~LOL)

JB will probably say that kc bought that plant and left it in her trunk.


jmo

The stinking corpse lily aka the voodoo lily.

http://www.wdtimes.com/articles/2009/02/26/news/news2.txt

[KittyMom]

... from Myrtle Beach wearing my new bathing suit.

Is there only a weekly thread for this case since there's not so much news happening right now? Do we know when to expect another doc dump? Have G and C committed any new crimes under cover of darkness since I've been away?

Hi to all my IS friends. :seeya:

Hi. I have to ask...is the bathing suit figurative? :confused:

[ish]

chuckles.... yes, snag-a-hubby mode! Remember all those Mrs. Casey Lazzaro, Mrs Anthony Lazarro, Casey Lazarro ...doodles. I'd say that Tony owes the Lord bigtime, that Casey didn't become pregnant with his child. Big time!

She needed a back up boyfriend like TonE was to RIcardo, and I think she had her eye on that William Waters. He really liked her. if things went bad with TonE I think Mr. Waters may have been next in line.

[Barbara fl.]

Well that's very true, but circumstances happen, some one could have had a flat tire, or had to go to the bathroom (ala R Kronk). Kronk was there in August. any number of things look how Nevaeh Buchanan was found. ANy how it was just a thought and I do wonder .


Also, they have alot of excavation going on, the owner could have wanted the land leveled....what would Casey have done then?

[Tia]

Isnt there a plant that smells like human decomp (saw it on csi, so it must be true~LOL)

JB will probably say that kc bought that plant and left it in her trunk.


jmo


What an insult to the jurors intelligence if they present a defense like this! Car "smelled like a dam dead body" according to Cindy, cadaver dogs hit on the trunk and Caylee is dead.

The defense is going to have to be really careful that they don't completely "turn off" the jury during this trial.

[desmom]

She needed a back up boyfriend like TonE was to RIcardo, and I think she had her eye on that William Waters. He really liked her. if things went bad with TonE I think Mr. Waters may have been next in line.

Yep and don't forget the Marine stationed in 29 Palms.

[KittyMom]

Yep, roll up the windows, let it sit in a black asphalt parking lot for a couple of weeks and then bring in the jury. jmo

In my mean little world, I want that car inside the courtroom. I want Casey and Co. to enjoy the results of her endeavors. I want her to have to wear that smell back to the jail each day and Baez to have to wear it home each night. I'm feeling very mean today. :sneaky:

[Sandy001]

I wonder if he even knows they're MIA? Of course, he knows they are missing. He's just too afraid of his handler. Anyone ever notice that she hold his hand in EVERY interview? Control Control Control. I am just not sure if he is more afraid of Cindy than he is of the law.

[Unleashed]

I see one of those stands with a lady who looks like a 10, but it has the face cut out......so ANYBODY could be Zanny!!!

I'll volunteer to make the dead squirrel pie!

[KittyMom]

I cn see Cindy slapping Casey for something she DID or DIDN'T do regarding Caylee and then Casey (in secret) slapping Caylee for causing Cindy to slap her (Casey). I think that was (and still is) a VERY SICK hosuehold. Ruled by Cindy.

I can so see that too. Especially after hearing about the choking incident.

[farrahrani]

I bet Cin bought that book for kc......

jmo


Publix used to give out baby books as part of its baby club for new moms. You'd get coupons for free items, then every month coupons for discounts that really added up. All you had to do was register and give the name and potential birthdate of your child. Or the date they were born already. I registered with each of my kids, and I recall that book was pretty heavy, and looked a lot like the one shown, too bad I couldn't get a better look at the cover.

I don't see Casey spending her own hard stolen money on a baby book, IMO.

[101Spots]

Of course, he knows they are missing. He's just too afraid of his handler. Anyone ever notice that she hold his hand in EVERY interview? Control Control Control. I am just not sure if he is more afraid of Cindy than he is of the law.

George Control (http://www.hotdogcollars.com/Steel-Prong-Dog-Collar-p/pet-107.htm)

Without the rubber tips....

[Sun]

In my mean little world, I want that car inside the courtroom. I want Casey and Co. to enjoy the results of her endeavors. I want her to have to wear that smell back to the jail each day and Baez to have to wear it home each night. I'm feeling very mean today. :sneaky:

I don't think that Casey thinks, feels, or processes things quite the same way that normal people do. Casey is going to say that anyone could have done anything to the car after Jun 27th. Casey will maintain that Jesse or Zanny was out to frame her. Just wait and see. The action in the courtroom may get quite heated around this issue.