Thursday, June 4, 2009 #1

[desmom]

June 4, 2008 -

Text Messages: Page 46 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Amy > Casey: I have my tickets girlie! Yay! Now it’s down to you and Troy.

Casey > Amy 06/04 5:16 p.m.: Done deal!

Casey > Amy 06/04 5:49 p.m.: So I'm not going to lie.. Tony is pretty incredible. I can’t wait to talk to you tonight!

Amy > Casey: Me either. I am closing so I’ll be there when I can be.

Casey > Amy 06/04 6:39 p.m.: Sounds good love!

Amy > Casey: How many ppl are in the cab there? I may try to get a ride so I come back with you all.

Casey > Amy 06/04 9:13 p.m.: I'm driving separately.

Amy > Casey: Still at work. This blows. I only made 49.

Casey > Amy 06/04 11:08 p.m.: How soon are you getting here.

Amy > Casey: On my way!

Casey > Amy 06/04 11:35 p.m.: About time!

Amy > Casey: You have a consered guy in here. Love you many hugs.


Birthday party at Voyager for Troy. Page 10 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf


Casey, Tone, Clint House and Clint’s girlfriend, Maria, met Amy at the birthday party. After the party, Casey, Tone, Clint & Maria went back to Tone’s apartment. Casey had to leave because her mother said she could not stay. Page 18 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf


Ricardo was also at Troy’s birthday party. Page 9 http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/tb092308.pdf


This is the first time Ricardo met Tone and there was an issue/tension between the two. Pages 9 – 10 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1641680/Brown-Troy---Statement

[aproudmom]

Good Morning everyone thank des for the new thread and text..

[desmom]

Yearbook with Casey Anthony photos sells for $500
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-yearbook-ebay-060309,0,5004814.story

I was telling a friend about Casey's yearbook being up on ebay. She said if 1 yearbook brings $500, what would all 4 years bring? (She is an ebay seller and always thinking Would someone buy this on ebay when we auction/garage sale.). :lol:

In this economic crunch I wonder how many of Casey's former classmates are digging out their yearbooks?

jmo

ETA ~ Good Morning Aproudmom and all that follow! :seeya:

[desmom]

Cook County defender seeks help with death penalty cases
http://www.sj-r.com/archive/x124613650/Cook-County-defender-seeks-help-with-death-penalty-cases

Chicago - The nation’s second-largest public defender’s office has run out of money to represent dozens of people facing the death penalty and is asking judges to rule out the punishment or appoint private attorneys, officials said Wednesday.

Andrea Lyon is from Chicago.

ETA ~ Is anyone here? It is awful quiet this morning.

[bchand]

Morning Des.

What a difference a year makes in the life of Casey Anthony eh?

What a waste.

It will be interesting to see if any charges are brought against the Ricardos and Mertzs.

Talk about self-destruction.

[Tornado]

Good morning to everyone - thanks Des for the new thread.

When is the next court hearing, do we know?

[cassidy]

Yearbook with Casey Anthony photos sells for $500
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-yearbook-ebay-060309,0,5004814.story

I was telling a friend about Casey's yearbook being up on ebay. She said if 1 yearbook brings $500, what would all 4 years bring? (She is an ebay seller and always thinking Would someone buy this on ebay when we auction/garage sale.). :lol:

In this economic crunch I wonder how many of Casey's former classmates are digging out their yearbooks?

jmo

ETA ~ Good Morning Aproudmom and all that follow! :seeya:

Cindy is digging them out as we type :)

JMO

[desmom]

This yearbook thing really has me tickled. I wonder if Cindy is burning up the phone lines contacting the alumni of Colonial H.S. ordering them to not sell their yearbooks on ebay.

:lol:

[BANJO GRANNY]

Yearbook with Casey Anthony photos sells for $500
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-yearbook-ebay-060309,0,5004814.story

I was telling a friend about Casey's yearbook being up on ebay. She said if 1 yearbook brings $500, what would all 4 years bring? (She is an ebay seller and always thinking Would someone buy this on ebay when we auction/garage sale.). :lol:

In this economic crunch I wonder how many of Casey's former classmates are digging out their yearbooks?

jmo

ETA ~ Good Morning Aproudmom and all that follow! :seeya:
Wonder if the Ant's was the one who bought it:rolleyes:


REST IN PEACE CAYLEE

[Unleashed]

Cook County defender seeks help with death penalty cases
http://www.sj-r.com/archive/x124613650/Cook-County-defender-seeks-help-with-death-penalty-cases

Chicago - The nation’s second-largest public defender’s office has run out of money to represent dozens of people facing the death penalty and is asking judges to rule out the punishment or appoint private attorneys, officials said Wednesday.

Andrea Lyon is from Chicago.

ETA ~ Is anyone here? It is awful quiet this morning.

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

[bchand]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

Morning Unleashed. I think it refers to "tips" for her pretend job.

Remember, everything that came out of Casey's mouth was a lie.

[Ckrdpast]

This yearbook thing really has me tickled. I wonder if Cindy is burning up the phone lines contacting the alumni of Colonial H.S. ordering them to not sell their yearbooks on ebay.

:lol:


good morning everyone!!

a poster on another forum smposted last nite that the winner of that auction was declined

[Sun]

Good morning! I'm off to a slow start today, and just now checking out the morning news.

[farrahrani]

Morning Des.

What a difference a year makes in the life of Casey Anthony eh?

What a waste.

It will be interesting to see if any charges are brought against the Ricardos and Mertzs.

Talk about self-destruction.

Bolding is mine.

I really hope so. Not for any vindictiveness on my part, but they are getting scarier and scarier each day. Who knows what would have happened if the women had opened their car doors or windows when stopped? The Anthony's need to be rid of their vigilante tendencies, and need to understand that society will not allow them to stalk and threaten and intimidate its citizens. With their self righteous attitude of being above the law, its a small wonder their daughter thinks she can blow off police questions and just dump her dead child and bide her time waiting for everything to blow over and she can go back to her old life.

[kitty1182]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

Text messages? lol

Good morning everybody..

[bchand]

Bolding is mine.

I really hope so. Not for any vindictiveness on my part, but they are getting scarier and scarier each day. Who knows what would have happened if the women had opened their car doors or windows when stopped? The Anthony's need to be rid of their vigilante tendencies, and need to understand that society will not allow them to stalk and threaten and intimidate its citizens. With their self righteous attitude of being above the law, its a small wonder their daughter thinks she can blow off police questions and just dump her dead child and bide her time waiting for everything to blow over and she can go back to her old life.

I agree. In particular I think Dennis should be called on using "strobe lights" to try and pull the car over. Wasn't he cited on that previously?

[Explorer]

good morning everyone!!

a poster on another forum smposted last nite that the winner of that auction was declined

What does that mean they declined their offer?

[Sun]

Back when the yearbook was listed at a BIN price of $179, someone had put in an offer to the seller. The Seller didn't respond and accept or decline that offer. And, then the Seller began jacking up the BIN price, from what I saw, it went from $179.99 to 279.99 to 329.99 and finally to $499.99. Then someone clicked the BIN button and made the purchase for the full $499.99 (only at that time did the earlier offer become declined). IMO, there is probably something fishy going on with the supposed sale of this item.

[Ckrdpast]

What does that mean they declined their offer?


i'm not sure

perhaps the auction winner's PayPal or Credit Card account was declined-i'm just guessing here

[breezie]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?
I think that was Amy telling Casey she only got $49 in tips that night. Bad night for a waitress I guess.

Morning everyone!

[cassidy]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

I think that was Amy. Is she a waitress? maybe only $49 in tips? Just guessing here.

[marshmallow]

Bolding is mine.

I really hope so. Not for any vindictiveness on my part, but they are getting scarier and scarier each day. Who knows what would have happened if the women had opened their car doors or windows when stopped? The Anthony's need to be rid of their vigilante tendencies, and need to understand that society will not allow them to stalk and threaten and intimidate its citizens. With their self righteous attitude of being above the law, its a small wonder their daughter thinks she can blow off police questions and just dump her dead child and bide her time waiting for everything to blow over and she can go back to her old life.



If I try really hard I can cut the Anthonys some slack, not a lot but some. But The Milsteads? heck no. I think they've latched onto the Anthonys and are whispering in their ears and egging them on. I think the Milsteads are making things a hundred times worse for GEorge and Cindy but like a teenager and a group of bad friends, the more it's pointed out...the more they hang out with them.
I'm a little nervous that Milstead's allowed to imply (nice word, won't get me in trouble)that he's some kind of LE with his flashing lights and run you down attitude. I hope LE in Fla looks into him, he scares me. I don't want my folks on the road with someone like him.
I'm no fan of Lois and I question her judgement but if I'd been lying things at the memorial and overnight they were disappearing or being destroyed I might want to keep an eye out to see why. But I'd leave any children home for safety's sake.

[Explorer]

i'm not sure

perhaps the auction winner's PayPal or Credit Card account was declined-i'm just guessing here

That makes sense. I havent been on ebay for years but now dont they let you recind your offer?

[desmom]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

The Amy > Casey: Still at work. This blows. I only made 49. text message?

> = to

IOW, Amy sent a text to Casey saying she only made 49. Amy was a waitress at the time. IMO, Amy is saying she only made $49 in tips.

[joolz]

i'm not sure

perhaps the auction winner's PayPal or Credit Card account was declined-i'm just guessing here

Another reason would be if the yearbook was a "reserve auction" listing. Because that would mean the seller had a secret bottom-line price already registered with ebay, and until someone reached that price, he/she could turn down any offers. (I know way too much about ebay:biggrin:).

[bchand]

I think that was Amy. Is she a waitress? maybe only $49 in tips? Just guessing here.

You're right cassidy. I went to the link that Des put in her post and it WAS from Amy. She is the one who said she only made $49.

[Unleashed]

I think that was Amy telling Casey she only got $49 in tips that night. Bad night for a waitress I guess.

Morning everyone!

Thanks to all who answered. Breezie, you are probably right, I read the msg wrong, it was from Amy to Casey, not the other way around. I will go have coffee before I post any more dumb questions.:blushing:

[8BellesFan]

Text messages? lol

Good morning everybody..

credit cards in other people's names?

[8BellesFan]

so is Ms. Lyons the new death penalty certified lawyer?

[bchand]

so is Ms. Lyons the new death penalty certified lawyer?

Yes she is 8BellesFan. She was in court last week with Baez.

[desmom]

so is Ms. Lyons the new death penalty certified lawyer?

A notice of appearance filed Andrea Lyon was recorded with the clerk's office on 5/29. http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Default.aspx?SessionID=264200e2-426d-41bb-bbc8-7874c62746ac

jmo

[Ckrdpast]

Another reason would be if the yearbook was a "reserve auction" listing. Because that would mean the seller had a secret bottom-line price already registered with ebay, and until someone reached that price, he/she could turn down any offers. (I know way too much about ebay:biggrin:).

the auction ended with a BIN---could the seller still turn that down?

[8BellesFan]

Yes she is 8BellesFan. She was in court last week with Baez.


thanks! last week is as far as I have caught up so far. :laugh:

[*MoonRider*]

Cook County defender seeks help with death penalty cases
http://www.sj-r.com/archive/x124613650/Cook-County-defender-seeks-help-with-death-penalty-cases

Chicago - The nation’s second-largest public defender’s office has run out of money to represent dozens of people facing the death penalty and is asking judges to rule out the punishment or appoint private attorneys, officials said Wednesday.

Andrea Lyon is from Chicago.

ETA ~ Is anyone here? It is awful quiet this morning.

GM, if Lyon is as passionate and she claims, she would drop Casey Anthony like a hot potato and help the locals out. So is it activism & passion or money?

[Explorer]

the auction ended with a BIN---could the seller still turn that down?

Maybe the seller thought they were going to get thousands for it:rolleyes::biggrin:

[Ckrdpast]

GM, if Lyon is as passionate and she claims, she would drop Casey Anthony like a hot potato and help the locals out. So is it activism & passion or money?



good point MoonRider....here's a link to her blog--why not post a comment and ask


http://www.andrealyon.com/blog/

[EverMoth]

GM, if Lyon is as passionate and she claims, she would drop Casey Anthony like a hot potato and help the locals out. So is it activism & passion or money?

I think it is both. There's her new book that is coming out so that could have something to do with it. But also, if she observed anything about this case in the media, before she signed on, she might have noticed JB's incompetence and the three ring circus surrounding him. She might have thought, if she didn't intervene in this, Casey didn't have a chance. I think she sees herself in God-like terms. JMO

[Explorer]

the auction ended with a BIN---could the seller still turn that down?

Well if a BVM grilled chese sandwich with a bite taken out of it can sellfor big bucks I guess the odious ones yearbook can sell for big bucks.

[Sun]

Item 110390722469 ...just in case anyone wants to see the yearbook sale.

Note that this was a BIN Fixed Price listing, with a Best Offer option. That means that folks could send offers to the seller (and the seller would then have a few days to decide on whether to accept or decline an offer). However, anyone could at any time click on the BIN button and make the purchase for the full Asking Price Listed. The seller did not specific that immediate payment was necessary to make the purchase.

There is no way to know if payment for the yearbook is ever made to the seller. However, if you want, you can check the seller's feedback record for the next week or so, and see if that buyer leaves them feedback. Or check and see if the seller leaves the buyer feedback. That still is not clear indication that any money changed hands though. ....my opinion, something fishy happened with this auction, and I doubt very much that this was a legit sale.

[Explorer]

Item 110390722469 ...just in case anyone wants to see the yearbook sale.

Note that this was a BIN Fixed Price listing, with a Best Offer option. That means that folks could send offers to the seller (and the seller would then have a few days to decide on whether to accept or decline an offer). However, anyone could at any time click on the BIN button and make the purchase for the full Asking Price Listed. The seller did not specific that immediate payment was necessary to make the purchase.

There is no way to know if payment for the yearbook is ever made to the seller. However, if you want, you can check the seller's feedback record for the next week or so, and see if that buyer leaves them feedback. Or check and see if the seller leaves the buyer feedback. That still is not clear indication that any money changed hands though. ....my opinion, something fishy happened with this auction, and I doubt very much that this was a legit sale.

Maybe G&C bought it and then welched out on the deal.

[Explorer]

So is the yearbook going to be admitted in the casey anthony Hall of Shame?

[Sun]

the auction ended with a BIN---could the seller still turn that down?

No. ....eBay's bid history page on any BIN listing with a Best Offer option, can be extremely misleading. Misleading, because it doesn't include the winner of the item if the item was purchased for the full BIN price. ....and when purchased at the full BIN price, any offers on the item that were still outstanding (not accepted nor declined) would automatically be marked declined by eBay.

[kitty1182]

credit cards in other people's names?

lol.........:biggrin:

[cassidy]

Item 110390722469 ...just in case anyone wants to see the yearbook sale.

Note that this was a BIN Fixed Price listing, with a Best Offer option. That means that folks could send offers to the seller (and the seller would then have a few days to decide on whether to accept or decline an offer). However, anyone could at any time click on the BIN button and make the purchase for the full Asking Price Listed. The seller did not specific that immediate payment was necessary to make the purchase.

There is no way to know if payment for the yearbook is ever made to the seller. However, if you want, you can check the seller's feedback record for the next week or so, and see if that buyer leaves them feedback. Or check and see if the seller leaves the buyer feedback. That still is not clear indication that any money changed hands though. ....my opinion, something fishy happened with this auction, and I doubt very much that this was a legit sale.

Probably a legit sale, just not a legit buyer. My guess is the buyer was fooling around with no intentions of paying.

JMO

[Ckrdpast]

No. ....eBay's bid history page on any BIN listing with a Best Offer option, can be extremely misleading. Misleading, because it doesn't include the winner of the item if the item was purchased for the full BIN price. ....and when purchased at the full BIN price, any offers on the item that were still outstanding (not accepted nor declined) would automatically be marked declined by eBay.

Sun-check your pm's

o/t i just heard Darryl Littlejohn Guilty of 1st degree murder



*happy dancing*

[Unleashed]

GM, if Lyon is as passionate and she claims, she would drop Casey Anthony like a hot potato and help the locals out. So is it activism & passion or money?

I think it's book promotion.

JMO

[CRRJJ]

Morning, des. Thanks for the thread!:thumbsup:

What was Casey referring to when she said "I only got 49"?

Wasn't that Amy that said that to Casey or do I have the quotes mixed up?

[ellegna]

good morning everyone!!

a poster on another forum smposted last nite that the winner of that auction was declined


Good morning everyone :seeya:

:w00t: Could the buyer have been someone from the Anthony camp?

[msgatorslayer]

Yearbook with Casey Anthony photos sells for $500
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-yearbook-ebay-060309,0,5004814.story

I was telling a friend about Casey's yearbook being up on ebay. She said if 1 yearbook brings $500, what would all 4 years bring? (She is an ebay seller and always thinking Would someone buy this on ebay when we auction/garage sale.). :lol:

In this economic crunch I wonder how many of Casey's former classmates are digging out their yearbooks?

jmo

ETA ~ Good Morning Aproudmom and all that follow! :seeya:

FGS - $500 dollars! That's alot of Caylee Bears. I bet Cindy is pizzed.

G'morning everyone!!!

[trich]

Wasn't that Amy that said that to Casey or do I have the quotes mixed up?

According to the post it was Amy saying that to Casey.
It did sound like she meant she only had $49.00.
Of course she had nothing by the time Casey got finished with Amy's checking account.:mad:

[Dick Tracy]

Good Morning from Seattle! Another nice day in the City of Rain.

IIRC, wasn't Judge Strickland electing to hear from news media attorneys this week irt the infamous Jailhouse tape? Nothing has been put on the docket for court, is that correct? Has any news media got involved in the fray?

[8BellesFan]

FGS - $500 dollars! That's alot of Caylee Bears. I bet Cindy is pizzed.

G'morning everyone!!!


it's also over a 100 gallons of boat fuel

[Unleashed]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

:w00t: Could the buyer have been someone from the Anthony camp?

I wondered if the seller might have been from the Ant farm. More publicity???

:shrug:

JMO

[desmom]

Re the year ago today: Casey, Tone, Clint House and Clint’s girlfriend, Maria, met Amy at the birthday party. . Page 18 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf

This was Troy's birthday party. Ricardo was also at the party. I think Ricardo was still under the impression that Casey and him were still an item.

IIRC, the lst time she met up with Tone, Tone was working an event. She told Tone she was going to visit a friend and returned with Jesse.

That is pretty crude. I wouldn't think things in FL are that much different than around here. I know if 2 beaus + girl + booze + that age = a fist a cuff before the night is over.

Was Casey trying to provoke something between her new boyfriend and old boyfriends? I think it shows exactly how self-centered Casey could be and she is all about DRAMA!

jmo

[Sun]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

:w00t: Could the buyer have been someone from the Anthony camp?

I would say no. Here is a link that provides just a little info on other items that the Buyer has bid on. Seems to me, that they buy items associated with the entertainment area, and after seeing this page, I am changing my mind a bit about whether this was a legit sale. I now think that it could be.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=110390722469&aid=t***c&eu=DDy2Ac%2B%2BMpz1FTMDRlhofoukOVGkHmxq&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewItem Link

[8BellesFan]

I wondered if the seller might have been from the Ant farm. More publicity???

:shrug:

JMO


wow, maybe an elaborate plot to taint the collectors of obscure high school annuals jury pool section:biggrin:

[desmom]

Wasn't that Amy that said that to Casey or do I have the quotes mixed up?

You are correct. Tomorrow I will use the word "to" instead of the ">". :biggrin:

[Sun]

chuckles.... When a movie is finally made about this tragedy, you may want to look carefully and see if it includes a yearbook as one of the props.

[Unleashed]

You are correct. Tomorrow I will use the word "to" instead of the ">". :biggrin:

Wouldn't have helped me anyway, des. I'm dyslexic. I saw the quote, read it wrong. :rolleyes:

JMO

[Dick Tracy]

According to the post it was Amy saying that to Casey.
It did sound like she meant she only had $49.00.
Of course she had nothing by the time Casey got finished with Amy's checking account.:mad:

She sure had a ton of nerve didn't she? No conscious Casey. Stealing five of her best friends checks, right out of the checkbook. She had to know she was being recorded at the bank, and at the checkout line, breaking the law, What person doesn't know that. I'm sure she did, which leads me to believe she had started her own Plan B, aka The Backup Plan.

Has anyone ever totalled the known amounts that we know Casey either stole or used?

The earliest I know is August 2007 where she ripped Shirley Plesea off $54 for the Publix check for Caylee's 2nd Birthday.

[Sun]

Cook County defender seeks help with death penalty cases
http://www.sj-r.com/archive/x124613650/Cook-County-defender-seeks-help-with-death-penalty-cases

Chicago - The nation’s second-largest public defender’s office has run out of money to represent dozens of people facing the death penalty and is asking judges to rule out the punishment or appoint private attorneys, officials said Wednesday.

Andrea Lyon is from Chicago.

ETA ~ Is anyone here? It is awful quiet this morning.

Perhaps Andrea Lyon will get her share of appointments since she is from the Chicago area. Maybe she will have less time to spend on the Casey Anthony defense.

I really think that Andrea Lyon's main purpose is much the same as Terrance Lenamon's. To get the State to drop the death penalty. Just like Baez used Lenamon, he is now using Lyon for that same purpose.

[Sun]

She sure had a ton of nerve didn't she? No conscious Casey. Stealing five of her best friends checks, right out of the checkbook. She had to know she was being recorded at the bank, and at the checkout line, breaking the law, What person doesn't know that. I'm sure she did, which leads me to believe she had started her own Plan B, aka The Backup Plan.

Has anyone ever totalled the known amounts that we know Casey either stole or used?

The earliest I know is August 2007 where she ripped Shirley Plesea off $54 for the Publix check for Caylee's 2nd Birthday.

Page 34 of this link, is the Amscot records showing lots of checks that Casey cashed there. Note: The transaction for 02/09/2008 is a check from Cindy's account for $200.... which Amscot refused to cash. LOL

09/15/06 it looks like Amscot denied another check from Brian Lufkin's account for $150 (Lee's roommate)...

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155477.pdf

[sammy62]

You are correct. Tomorrow I will use the word "to" instead of the ">". :biggrin:

morning all. Thanks for doing this each morning. Its sad to kill your baby to be able to party freely...and now sit in a cell for the rest of your life.

[msgatorslayer]

She sure had a ton of nerve didn't she? No conscious Casey. Stealing five of her best friends checks, right out of the checkbook. She had to know she was being recorded at the bank, and at the checkout line, breaking the law, What person doesn't know that. I'm sure she did, which leads me to believe she had started her own Plan B, aka The Backup Plan.

Has anyone ever totalled the known amounts that we know Casey either stole or used?

The earliest I know is August 2007 where she ripped Shirley Plesea off $54 for the Publix check for Caylee's 2nd Birthday.

She may have had a plan to set Amy up for taking Caylee. Using the checks she stole as motive for why someone would take her child. Not that her plan would have worked out, lol, but desperate people come up with desperate stories. At least Amy would have been a POI for a little bit longer than the 'phantom nanny' was. At least she exists and LE could have interrogated her for a while.

[martha]

good morning everyone hope you all have a good day. Boy when they show how much and who casey stole and cashed check for it may be funny because cindy said she did not steal from her. This trial will go on for a long time if it ever gets started. jmho

[Dick Tracy]

She may have had a plan to set Amy up for taking Caylee. Using the checks she stole as motive for why someone would take her child. Not that her plan would have worked out, lol, but desperate people come up with desperate stories. At least Amy would have been a POI for a little bit longer than the 'phantom nanny' was. At least she exists and LE could have interrogated her for a while.

You know, I just don't think Casey was that smart. Over time, she could perfect something (ie, the fake email accounts from non-existent managers at the non-existent job at Universal - now that was a pretty elaborate scheme), but for the most part, I think she ran her life like a pinball machine, bouncing around the game of life. Makes me think she started stealing at a very young age. Casey looks like your prototypical shoplifter to me. I'm sure she shoplifted and never got caught.

I recall NG early on, back in August with a statement - She racked up 45K on her mommy's credit cards. Maybe NG had some stuff we didn't, but where did that NUMBER come from?

[Dick Tracy]

Page 34 of this link, is the Amscot records showing lots of checks that Casey cashed there. Note: The transaction for 02/09/2008 is a check from Cindy's account for $200.... which Amscot refused to cash. LOL

09/15/06 it looks like Amscot denied another check from Brian Lufkin's account for $150 (Lee's roommate)...

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155477.pdf

^5. Thanks. So it's as early as 2006 she's stealing from her friends? What the he!! What was her excuse to Brian Lufkin?

I remember Cindy responding to AH, or about the stolen AH checks to someone else - Well, she only did it ONCE! LOL.

[farrahrani]

Re the year ago today: Casey, Tone, Clint House and Clint’s girlfriend, Maria, met Amy at the birthday party. . Page 18 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf

This was Troy's birthday party. Ricardo was also at the party. I think Ricardo was still under the impression that Casey and him were still an item.

IIRC, the lst time she met up with Tone, Tone was working an event. She told Tone she was going to visit a friend and returned with Jesse.

That is pretty crude. I wouldn't think things in FL are that much different than around here. I know if 2 beaus + girl + booze + that age = a fist a cuff before the night is over.

Was Casey trying to provoke something between her new boyfriend and old boyfriends? I think it shows exactly how self-centered Casey could be and she is all about DRAMA!

jmo

Well, seeing from the text quoted between Amy and CA previously, we know how flattered she was that her ex seemed to want her back when she dated someone else. Maybe she wanted that from Jesse also?

If it were any normal modern person, it would show just that she is comfortable with her ex meeting her new bf, and wants everyone to get along.

I think it shows a lot of maturity on the men's parts to be pleasant and keep things civl. Though Jesse by that time was probably disillusioned as to what kind of woman Casey was, and TonE probably didn't view her as anything more than the flavor of the week at that point, and had no real reason to feel threatened.

[msgatorslayer]

You know, I just don't think Casey was that smart. Over time, she could perfect something (ie, the fake email accounts from non-existent managers at the non-existent job at Universal - now that was a pretty elaborate scheme), but for the most part, I think she ran her life like a pinball machine, bouncing around the game of life. Makes me think she started stealing at a very young age. Casey looks like your prototypical shoplifter to me. I'm sure she shoplifted and never got caught.

I recall NG early on, back in August with a statement - She racked up 45K on her mommy's credit cards. Maybe NG had some stuff we didn't, but where did that NUMBER come from?

Yeah, you're probably right. That's how she rolls. And ITA with ya about the shoplifting. Starting out small, stealing make-up, clothing, etc from stores. Then moving on to check fraud later.

Not sure where NG got her numbers.

[Sun]

I don't think that Casey is very smart either. And there is a good reason that Casey no longer had a bank account, and had to pay Amscot to cash her checks... as far back as 2005.

Every single that that Casey purchased from April 2006 until the present, was paid for with someone else's money. Money given to Casey, or money stolen by Casey. Yet no one bothered to hold Casey accountable.

I am not sure that Casey understands that she will be held accountable in the death of Caylee.

[Ckrdpast]

does anyone know if the trooper that Lois and company encountered the night of the sting, did any investigation? i've only read accounts where the trooper told everyone to go home.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Sun
Page 34 of this link, is the Amscot records showing lots of checks that Casey cashed there. Note: The transaction for 02/09/2008 is a check from Cindy's account for $200.... which Amscot refused to cash. LOL

09/15/06 it looks like Amscot denied another check from Brian Lufkin's account for $150 (Lee's roommate)...

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155477.pdf
^5. Thanks. So it's as early as 2006 she's stealing from her friends? What the he!! What was her excuse to Brian Lufkin?

I remember Cindy responding to AH, or about the stolen AH checks to someone else - Well, she only did it ONCE! LOL.


Casey didn't get away with stealing money from BLufkin at that time, because Amscot wouldn't cash the check. But their records do show that Casey tried to cash it. I suspect that if Casey and Lee's friends were asked, quite a number of them might say that Casey took money from them also. Especially the males. LOL

[farrahrani]

You know, I just don't think Casey was that smart. Over time, she could perfect something (ie, the fake email accounts from non-existent managers at the non-existent job at Universal - now that was a pretty elaborate scheme), but for the most part, I think she ran her life like a pinball machine, bouncing around the game of life. Makes me think she started stealing at a very young age. Casey looks like your prototypical shoplifter to me. I'm sure she shoplifted and never got caught.

I recall NG early on, back in August with a statement - She racked up 45K on her mommy's credit cards. Maybe NG had some stuff we didn't, but where did that NUMBER come from?


I don't think she perfected it very well. Didn't George at some point say he KNEW the emails were faked? Soemthing about checking the ip's of where they came from? Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.
If she were really smart, she would have sent them from another location, something most high school kids these days already know, and have informed me about lol.


And as far as shoplifting. We do know she has a sealed record, just not what it's for. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was for some kind of theft, either shoplifting, credit card fraud, check fraud, something like that. She seems like the kind of person to just keep doing what she wants and has no shame, given how many people she's stolen from, and continued to steal from.

[EverMoth]

[QUOTE=msgatorslayer;13168270]Yeah, you're probably right. That's how she rolls. And ITA with ya about the shoplifting. Starting out small, stealing make-up, clothing, etc from stores. Then moving on to check fraud later.
QUOTE]


. . .and to murder after that. Typical progression of a psycopathic individual. imo

[Dick Tracy]

I don't think that Casey is very smart either. And there is a good reason that Casey no longer had a bank account, and had to pay Amscot to cash her checks... as far back as 2005.

Every single that that Casey purchased from April 2006 until the present, was paid for with someone else's money. Money given to Casey, or money stolen by Casey. Yet no one bothered to hold Casey accountable.

I am not sure that Casey understands that she will be held accountable in the death of Caylee.


*** My bolding.

Oh, I think that part has sunk in. She's going to do what she can to deflect the blame on to Cindy. The "It's my mom fault that I killed Caylee defense." By now, she's gotten her story worked out. I'm betting she'll say "it was an accident and I panicked."

That won't work with a predominantly southern jury.

[msgatorslayer]

I don't think that Casey is very smart either. And there is a good reason that Casey no longer had a bank account, and had to pay Amscot to cash her checks... as far back as 2005.

Every single that that Casey purchased from April 2006 until the present, was paid for with someone else's money. Money given to Casey, or money stolen by Casey. Yet no one bothered to hold Casey accountable.

I am not sure that Casey understands that she will be held accountable in the death of Caylee.

She may have had a bank account of her own back when she was really working. She strikes me as the type who was always overdrawn, bouncing checks, and paying fees. No need to keep it once she wasn't working.

[apothecary]

I don't think that Casey is very smart either. And there is a good reason that Casey no longer had a bank account, and had to pay Amscot to cash her checks... as far back as 2005.

Every single that that Casey purchased from April 2006 until the present, was paid for with someone else's money. Money given to Casey, or money stolen by Casey. Yet no one bothered to hold Casey accountable.

I am not sure that Casey understands that she will be held accountable in the death of Caylee.
What a lowlife.She had no scruples whatsoever and just took what she wanted,finally taking the life of her own daughter.I still have not heard a snippet of an apology to her family for her behaviour.She could still apologize even if it is recorded if she really felt any remorse.Nothing,nothing,nothing..No remorse.I am getting angry just typing this.:mad:

[Dick Tracy]

I don't think she perfected it very well. Didn't George at some point say he KNEW the emails were faked? Soemthing about checking the ip's of where they came from? Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.
If she were really smart, she would have sent them from another location, something most high school kids these days already know, and have informed me about lol.


And as far as shoplifting. We do know she has a sealed record, just not what it's for. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was for some kind of theft, either shoplifting, credit card fraud, check fraud, something like that. She seems like the kind of person to just keep doing what she wants and has no shame, given how many people she's stolen from, and continued to steal from.

Great post. I agree. I didn't know that George had the brains to figure out email headers and orig ip information. Weren't some of those coming from hotmail accounts? That would have been MY first clue they were bogus.

[Dick Tracy]

Casey didn't get away with stealing money from BLufkin at that time, because Amscot wouldn't cash the check. But their records do show that Casey tried to cash it. I suspect that if Casey and Lee's friends were asked, quite a number of them might say that Casey took money from them also. Especially the males. LOL

well, she may not have gotten away with it (BLufkin Check), but I'm sure she had to do some explaining to BLUFKIN about what she had tried to do. As we can see, it's all an official record, and that means he was aware of the declined check, as well as missing a check from his checking account.

What a dumb you-know-what. Low life.

ETA - Your'e right. She shows no remorse. Remorse is a very important factor in a DP case. She shows none. That's not going to fly with a jury.

[farrahrani]

Great post. I agree. I didn't know that George had the brains to figure out email headers and orig ip information. Weren't some of those coming from hotmail accounts? That would have been MY first clue they were bogus.


I think that George is much much smarter than he lets on. I think he likes to cling to that dopey helpless in Cindy's clutches type of sympathetic persona. Notice how much of the public outcry is focused mainly on Cindy.

I also strongly doubt his claims of that Nigerian scam. It's fairly well known, and being a former detective he could in no way be that dumb, whether its homicide or just a plain cop. In fact, most LE that I know were the ones to warn me about this. I strongly believe that the first story out, about his gambling debts, is the true story. The Nigerian scam is somehow less tasteless than gambling, and more likely to make him a sympathetic, brainless victim in the public's eyes.

[Carol25]

Good morning everyone! Was I wrong in assuming there would be a hearing that included the media this morning? Anyone who could not attend would just hand in briefs and he would rule on the video?

[Sun]

She may have had a bank account of her own back when she was really working. She strikes me as the type who was always overdrawn, bouncing checks, and paying fees. No need to keep it once she wasn't working.

She cashed her last six paychecks at the Amscot, and paid their fees. Which tells me that she didn't have a bank account at that time. I'm going to guess that she got into trouble sometime just prior to Caylee's birth, and that Cindy bailed her out (so no criminal record).

[msgatorslayer]

I don't think she perfected it very well. Didn't George at some point say he KNEW the emails were faked? Soemthing about checking the ip's of where they came from? Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.
If she were really smart, she would have sent them from another location, something most high school kids these days already know, and have informed me about lol.


And as far as shoplifting. We do know she has a sealed record, just not what it's for. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was for some kind of theft, either shoplifting, credit card fraud, check fraud, something like that. She seems like the kind of person to just keep doing what she wants and has no shame, given how many people she's stolen from, and continued to steal from.

I still have reservations about her alledged juvenille record.

A sealed juvenille record only means that nobody can access the case files. Only judges, a defendants lawyer, or parents can do that.

I've seen countless people in the state of Florida have their juvenille record mentioned when they are in the news for new crimes.

I don't know how expungement works though. Maybe that totally whipes it out. :confused: But then I wonder how and why it was ever mentioned in Casey's case. Come to think of it, I don't even remember now the context of how it was reported.

[Sun]

*** My bolding.

Oh, I think that part has sunk in. She's going to do what she can to deflect the blame on to Cindy. The "It's my mom fault that I killed Caylee defense." By now, she's gotten her story worked out. I'm betting she'll say "it was an accident and I panicked."

That won't work with a predominantly southern jury.

Unless Casey takes the stand, there will be nobody to tell this to a Jury. Do you think that she will take the stand?

[Sun]

Good morning everyone! Was I wrong in assuming there would be a hearing that included the media this morning? Anyone who could not attend would just hand in briefs and he would rule on the video?

There is no court hearing scheduled on the docket in the Clerk of Courts records. I do see that one of the media did file a Motion to Intervene.... so i expect a court hearing to be set once all parties can agree on a court date. IIRC, Lyon and LKB weren't available before June 22nd.

5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED ANDREA D. LYON
5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF CERTIFICATION FILED
6/1/2009 A MOTION TO INTERVENE FOR THE LIMITED PUROSE OF OPPOSING DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SEAL THE JAIL VIDEOTAPE TAKEN IN THE MEDICAL FACILITY ON 12/11/08
6/1/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION OF BILLY RICHARDSON
6/1/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION OF TAMMY UNCER
6/1/2009 A ORDER CONTINUING HEARING ON MOTION FOR APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM AND OBJECTIONS FILED BY DEPUTY RICHARD CAIN
6/2/2009 A MOTION TO SET ASIDE ORDER RELATING TO ANY RECORDS OF DOMINIC CASEY AND OBJECTION TO MOTION FOR RECORDS
6/2/2009 A MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER (DOMINIC CASEY)
6/2/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED DIANA M. TENNIS (DOMINIC CASEY)

[summer4meplz]

does anyone know if the trooper that Lois and company encountered the night of the sting, did any investigation? i've only read accounts where the trooper told everyone to go home.

I don't know but I am astonished they would let milstead get away with impersonating an officer AGAIN.
:cursing:

[happygert]

Unless Casey takes the stand, there will be nobody to tell this to a Jury. Do you think that she will take the stand?

I'm guessing casey will NEVER take the witness stand..

[msgatorslayer]

She cashed her last six paychecks at the Amscot, and paid their fees. Which tells me that she didn't have a bank account at that time. I'm going to guess that she got into trouble sometime just prior to Caylee's birth, and that Cindy bailed her out (so no criminal record).

Right, why only the last few? I think she had a bank account prior but borked it up. That, or, maybe Cindy had been cashing her checks for her but then told her it was time to get her own account. And Casey didn't.

[Sun]

I don't know but I am astonished they would let milstead get away with impersonating an officer AGAIN.
:cursing:

me too. Perhaps they are still investigating to see if any witnesses can offer an unbiased accounting of what took place.

With June 15/16th rapidly approaching, I am hopeful that a new Memorial will appear.

[msgatorslayer]

I'm guessing casey will NEVER take the witness stand..

I don't think so either. She may have thought she was good liar this time last year but by now, she knows that she isn't. It would be a disaster if she got on the stand.

[Sun]

Right, why only the last few? I think she had a bank account prior but borked it up. That, or, maybe Cindy had been cashing her checks for her but then told her it was time to get her own account. And Casey didn't.

You are probably spot on! Perhaps if Morgan ever gets to complete his depos with Cindy and George, he may uncover just a little more into the financial history of Casey. I really think that Cindy's past Credit Card records could reveal a lot that Cindy doesn't want known. Lots.

[Dick Tracy]

I think that George is much much smarter than he lets on. I think he likes to cling to that dopey helpless in Cindy's clutches type of sympathetic persona. Notice how much of the public outcry is focused mainly on Cindy.

I also strongly doubt his claims of that Nigerian scam. It's fairly well known, and being a former detective he could in no way be that dumb, whether its homicide or just a plain cop. In fact, most LE that I know were the ones to warn me about this. I strongly believe that the first story out, about his gambling debts, is the true story. The Nigerian scam is somehow less tasteless than gambling, and more likely to make him a sympathetic, brainless victim in the public's eyes.


** my bolding.

Maybe so. I've always considered George to be somewhat of a failure, because he didn't have much brainpower. I don't recall reading much information about George and computers getting along though. You probably know as well as I do, that MOST people don't even know that each email has a header with lots of information about how it got from point a to b. I can't see George decyphering that information.

[Sun]

I'm guessing casey will NEVER take the witness stand..

Me too. However, Baez's past client charged with murder of a child, did take the stand.

[Carol25]

There is no court hearing scheduled on the docket in the Clerk of Courts records. I do see that one of the media did file a Motion to Intervene.... so i expect a court hearing to be set once all parties can agree on a court date. IIRC, Lyon and LKB weren't available before June 22nd.

5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED ANDREA D. LYON
5/29/2009 A NOTICE OF CERTIFICATION FILED
6/1/2009 A MOTION TO INTERVENE FOR THE LIMITED PUROSE OF OPPOSING DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SEAL THE JAIL VIDEOTAPE TAKEN IN THE MEDICAL FACILITY ON 12/11/08
6/1/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION OF BILLY RICHARDSON
6/1/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION OF TAMMY UNCER
6/1/2009 A ORDER CONTINUING HEARING ON MOTION FOR APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM AND OBJECTIONS FILED BY DEPUTY RICHARD CAIN
6/2/2009 A MOTION TO SET ASIDE ORDER RELATING TO ANY RECORDS OF DOMINIC CASEY AND OBJECTION TO MOTION FOR RECORDS
6/2/2009 A MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER (DOMINIC CASEY)
6/2/2009 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED DIANA M. TENNIS (DOMINIC CASEY)
Thank you Sun. I thought he said something about Thursday. It wouldn't be "in camera" on Thursday, thus not on the docket, would it?

[Dick Tracy]

Unless Casey takes the stand, there will be nobody to tell this to a Jury. Do you think that she will take the stand?

IMO, When pigs fly, Casey will take the stand. But she could surprise us all. Imagine the ratings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In front of me, my workspace has three monitors going on, 3 22" monitors. I only use two most of the time, but the third one will be hooked up to the trial, and be on and running. CAN'T WAIT!

[EverMoth]

I don't think so either. She may have thought she was good liar this time last year but by now, she knows that she isn't. It would be a disaster if she got on the stand.

OMG - the State would be in prosecutorial heaven.

[Cynthia]

Me too. However, Baez's past client charged with murder of a child, did take the stand.

Could hear Baez now "umm, oh umm, well ummm, isn't Casey beautiful"!!!

[101Spots]

OMG - the State would be in prosecutorial heaven.

Here's my $50. Gimme my ticket - and it better be in the front row.

[EverMoth]

Here's my $50. Gimme my ticket - and it better be in the front row.

I'm comin' with ya! Show of the year!

[read-in]

OMG - the State would be in prosecutorial heaven.

With all the lies that casey has told, what jury could believe a word she has to say???
GM all:smile:

[msgatorslayer]

Me too. However, Baez's past client charged with murder of a child, did take the stand.

Darlie Routier took the stand too. After giving 16 different versions of what happened the night her Son's were butchered, to various people, on the stand, she claimed amnesia.:thumbdown:

She's on DR.

[Carol25]

Here's my $50. Gimme my ticket - and it better be in the front row.
Wish we could bring in Allen Jackson from the Spector Trial to prosecute, I'd make the trip and take the seat next to you!

[read-in]

I'm comin' with ya! Show of the year!

I Am a fat, lazy blogger, Do you think there will be room for me too??:laugh:

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Sun
Me too. However, Baez's past client charged with murder of a child, did take the stand.
Could hear Baez now "umm, oh umm, well ummm, isn't Casey beautiful"!!!

"umm, ah, ah, ah, you you just you just don't know know the real Casey like I do."

[msgatorslayer]

With all the lies that casey has told, what jury could believe a word she has to say???
GM all:smile:

I belive it was poster Barskin who once said, if Casey told me my own name, I'd want to look at my birth certificate to confirm.:laugh:

[EverMoth]

With all the lies that casey has told, what jury could believe a word she has to say???
GM all:smile:

Can you IMAGINE the state picking apart all of that? Casey has told so many versions of events and made up so much stuff on the spot that she would be tripped up every 2 seconds.

Because she thinks and acts in the moment, without forethought and without the ability to see how her thoughts and actions are perceived by others, she will not remember the specifics of anything she has stated. The State would ask her to answer something and she would, more than likely, give an even different reply than the three or four versions that she has already attested to. The State would destroy her. JB has gotta know this. I don't think, for one minute, that Ms. Lyon would allow Casey to take the stand. Ten minutes of her on the stand and the jury would already be thinking G U I L T Y.

jmo

[read-in]

Wish we could bring in Allen Jackson from the Spector Trial to prosecute, I'd make the trip and take the seat next to you!

Oh Carol, i would just love that!!! I adore AJ, and Fidler as well. AJ would just take Team casey Apart, Bit by Bit:laugh:

[EverMoth]

I Am a fat, lazy blogger, Do you think there will be room for me too??:laugh:

Absolutely! :smile:

[101Spots]

Oh Carol, i would just love that!!! I adore AJ, and Fidler as well. AJ would just take Team casey Apart, Bit by Bit:laugh:

..... and morsel by delicious morsel.

A feast for a lifetime.

<sigh> I know it won't happen, but I'm going to enjoy this fantasy for a few more minutes.

Mmmmmmmm.......

[Unleashed]

Wish we could bring in Allen Jackson from the Spector Trial to prosecute, I'd make the trip and take the seat next to you!

I'd make the trip and take the seat next to HIM!!!!!

JMO

[Sun]

With all the lies that casey has told, what jury could believe a word she has to say???
GM all:smile:

Casey told the same lies to four LE officers, and she must have thought that they would believe her.

They didn't. And, IMO a Jury won't either.

Someone please save me a seat!

[read-in]

I belive it was poster Barskin who once said, if Casey told me my own name, I'd want to look at my birth certificate to confirm.:laugh:

That is just too funny, and sadly very true.

[101Spots]

O/T David Carradine found dead in his hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand.

[Cynthia]

I belive it was poster Barskin who once said, if Casey told me my own name, I'd want to look at my birth certificate to confirm.:laugh:


That's priceless!!!!

[Sun]

Casey just doesn't seem like the kind of person that can keep her mouth shut. Can you imagine what day after day after day of her sitting there listening to testimony will do to her?

Towards the end of Billy Richardson's depo with Baez/LKB, I noted that he revealed something. He noted that one time that Casey met with Baez, he noticed her crying (about 2-3 weeks before he gave this depo, he thought). Made me go hmmmmm???

[read-in]

I'd make the trip and take the seat next to HIM!!!!!

JMO

Maybe we should all get together and sell all of our old yearbooks on E_bay, and then we can Hire him, !!!!! Oh how i would love to see AJ up against Baez... Maybe we would see some REAL fear come from kc.

[Cynthia]

O/T David Carradine found dead in his hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand.


I liked him....they said it appears to be suicide. :sad:

[101Spots]

Maybe we should all get together and sell all of our old yearbooks on E_bay, and then we can Hire him, !!!!! Oh how i would love to see AJ up against Baez... Maybe we would see some REAL fear come from kc.

I'll list mine under "Antiques - Papyrus year book."

[KittyMom]

I still have reservations about her alledged juvenille record.

A sealed juvenille record only means that nobody can access the case files. Only judges, a defendants lawyer, or parents can do that.

I've seen countless people in the state of Florida have their juvenille record mentioned when they are in the news for new crimes.

I don't know how expungement works though. Maybe that totally whipes it out. :confused: But then I wonder how and why it was ever mentioned in Casey's case. Come to think of it, I don't even remember now the context of how it was reported.

It was during a bond hearing. Baez was questioning the court appointed case manager. The doofus asked about prior records and the woman answered...the juvie record? I'm sure Baez made his law professors proud. :huh:

[KittyMom]

I'll bet Cindy has been through Casey's room better than any CSI team ever dreamed of. She knows about every diary, photo, doodle that Casey's hand has touched. When the money gets tight, we'll start seeing stuff show up on ebay. If there is one thing Cindy knows, its the color green. :drool:

[Unleashed]

Maybe we should all get together and sell all of our old yearbooks on E_bay, and then we can Hire him, !!!!! Oh how i would love to see AJ up against Baez... Maybe we would see some REAL fear come from kc.

Mine's in ancient egyptian hieroglyphics. Think it'll sell??

jmo

[bchand]

I'd make the trip and take the seat next to HIM!!!!!

JMO

Then I'd probably have to accidentally push you right off of that chair.

:sneaky:

[WhiteShark]

margaritaville said:
LOL--- clean up on isle 4......I just shot coffee through my nose with those wonderful names you have..........(and that is not a good feeling...I feel more like I just inhaled water while swimming)
I wonder if the caffeine will get to my system faster now that it is actually on my brain?....snipped for space.....
What do you all think would happen if somehow mz. Lyon gets a "not guilty verdict and she was to walk? (I know unlikely with the check fraud/child endangerment)
But hypothetically...If Casey was to walk......What if anything do you think would happen to her???

First I hate to tell you this, but it sounds as if you had just "waterboarded" yourself! LOLOL (been there done that):tonguewag:

I answered this post because you asked the one question that is very rarely ever discussed or even considered. I think I have always just took it for granted she would be convicted of some crime in relation to Caylee's death and the financial matter. I think if she were not convicted giving the evidence we DO know about, and imagining the evidence LE has that we DON'T know about yet-----it would be a massive failure of the system.

[Sun]

I'll bet Cindy has been through Casey's room better than any CSI team ever dreamed of. She knows about every diary, photo, doodle that Casey's hand has touched. When the money gets tight, we'll start seeing stuff show up on ebay. If there is one thing Cindy knows, its the color green. :drool:

The public won't allow Cindy to sell on ebay. Not for long, anyway. With how the public feels about Cindy, can you imagine the hits that her feedback would take? Or, anyones feedback, if she has someone else sell stuff?

[Ckrdpast]

Casey just doesn't seem like the kind of person that can keep her mouth shut. Can you imagine what day after day after day of her sitting there listening to testimony will do to her?

Towards the end of Billy Richardson's depo with Baez/LKB, I noted that he revealed something. He noted that one time that Casey met with Baez, he noticed her crying (about 2-3 weeks before he gave this depo, he thought). Made me go hmmmmm???


2 weeks prior to the depo was march 19---as shallow as casey is--i would think she was crying about missing all the St Paddy's day (March 17)celebrations you know--missing her shamrocks and all:wink:

[read-in]

Then I'd probably have to accidentally push you right off of that chair.

:sneaky:

I would want to take my Recliner, pillows,blankets, and comfort foods. sit back, and watch the whole movie . Ripley's Belive it, Or Not???:w00t:

[GIGI4256]

First I hate to tell you this, but it sounds as if you had just "waterboarded" yourself! LOLOL (been there done that):tonguewag:

I answered this post because you asked the one question that is very rarely ever discussed or even considered. I think I have always just took it for granted she would be convicted of some crime in relation to Caylee's death and the financial matter. I think if she were not convicted giving the evidence we DO know about, and imagining the evidence LE has that we DON'T know about yet-----it would be a massive failure of the system.

She would have to go into hiding like Karla Homolka. JMO

[KittyMom]

The public won't allow Cindy to sell on ebay. Not for long, anyway. With how the public feels about Cindy, can you imagine the hits that her feedback would take? Or, anyones feedback, if she has someone else sell stuff?

Oh, I'm sure she won't do it herself. She'll have someone do it for her. But at some point there'll come a time when money is tight and she'll consider making a buck off of Casey. She's already done it with Caylee.

[msgatorslayer]

It was during a bond hearing. Baez was questioning the court appointed case manager. The doofus asked about prior records and the woman answered...the juvie record? I'm sure Baez made his law professors proud. :huh:

Ah, thanks Kitty.

Why oh why don't we know what it's for? Where is the headline "Tot Mom was arrested for [insert] when she was 14'?

I see it all the time.

Man arrested for [insert] has a past record. When he was 16, he was arrested for [insert].

Long record for man accused of [insert]. Starting at age 15, suspect has been arrested [insert] times. Burlarly, petty theft, etc, etc.

A juvenille record in the State of Florida isn't totally protected like it may be in other states.

[101Spots]

2 weeks prior to the depo was march 19---as shallow as casey is--i would think she was crying about missing all the St Paddy's day (March 17)celebrations you know--missing her shamrocks and all:wink:

Isn't March 19 her birthday?

Awwwwwwwww, no cake.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by Sun
Casey just doesn't seem like the kind of person that can keep her mouth shut. Can you imagine what day after day after day of her sitting there listening to testimony will do to her?

Towards the end of Billy Richardson's depo with Baez/LKB, I noted that he revealed something. He noted that one time that Casey met with Baez, he noticed her crying (about 2-3 weeks before he gave this depo, he thought). Made me go hmmmmm???
2 weeks prior to the depo was march 19---as shallow as casey is--i would think she was crying about missing all the St Paddy's day (March 17)celebrations you know--missing her shamrocks and all:wink:

You are so right! And March 19th was Casey's birthday. And, there was a court hearing on March 12th, maybe on in the Civil Case on March 18th.

[read-in]

Oh, I'm sure she won't do it herself. She'll have someone do it for her. But at some point there'll come a time when money is tight and she'll consider making a buck off of Casey. She's already done it with Caylee.

Who would want anything that belonged to casey??? it's all stolen goods anyway. I sure wouldn't put it past cindy to try.....

[Unleashed]

Then I'd probably have to accidentally push you right off of that chair.

:sneaky:

I'd probably have to sic one of my pet dead squirrels on you. :scared:

JMO

[shelkobe]

You know, I just don't think Casey was that smart. Over time, she could perfect something (ie, the fake email accounts from non-existent managers at the non-existent job at Universal - now that was a pretty elaborate scheme), but for the most part, I think she ran her life like a pinball machine, bouncing around the game of life. Makes me think she started stealing at a very young age. Casey looks like your prototypical shoplifter to me. I'm sure she shoplifted and never got caught.

I recall NG early on, back in August with a statement - She racked up 45K on her mommy's credit cards. Maybe NG had some stuff we didn't, but where did that NUMBER come from?
Responding to what I've bolded, I was very adamant on this board that when Nancy said Casey stole $45,000 from her mother, that Nancy was actually confusing this case with another case that was happening at the same time (and Nancy was also covering), where a husband was a suspect in his wife's death and the wife had racked up $45,000 in credit card bills. That info. came out within days of Nancy saying Casey stole $45K.

However, since that time, some evidence -- perhaps it was her emails -- from Shirley Plesea has come out and I think she mentions Cindy had to take $45K from her retirement acct. in order to compensate for monies Casey stole (or charges she racked up on Cindy's accts.)

So I am no longer sure about Nancy's $45K statement, although I am pretty positive that Shirley's emails/depo. was not released prior to Nancy mentioning that number.

I am behind on this thread so if someone has straightened this out in the next few pages, I apologize for responding out of context.

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

[msgatorslayer]

I wouldn't believe Casey if her tongue was Notarized. :wink:

:laugh:

Applies to the whole family!!!

[KittyMom]

Who would want anything that belonged to casey??? it's all stolen goods anyway. I sure wouldn't put it past cindy to try.....

Well, I was actually thinking of diaries and drawings and such. I've heard of criminals selling their poems, artwork from behind bars. Cindy has a storehouse of things in Casey's room. I can just see it...

lot of assorted wedding annoucements
Mrs. Casey Grund
Mrs. Casey Morales
Mrs. Casey Larrazo
Mrs. Casey Baez

[EverMoth]

Isn't March 19 her birthday?

Awwwwwwwww, no cake.

Plenty of pork rinds tho! :biggrinjester:

[Ckrdpast]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

WOW---just wow

[Unleashed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

I can't watch vids on my puter. What is making you sad???

jmo

[missinglink]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

:rose: Heartbreaking...

[Mandymax]

I personally believe Casey will fight like the dickens to take the stand. I still think *she* still thinks she can convince anyone of anything. I don't think she's learned a single thing all the time she's been in jail. She'll take the stand.

Regarding all the stolen money and credit cards: what on earth did she buy???? Besides the blue hoodie and the white sunglasses and toilet paper for her boyfriend's apartment and birthday party decorations for Caylee? I mean, good God, I've got credit card debt, too, but I'm a grown woman who's worked for years and had to buy new contacts and get dental work done and pay veterinarians and doggie neurologists for two years for a sick pooch on top my fun shopping. Where on earth did all of Casey's stolen money go?? Anyone know?

[msgatorslayer]

I can't watch vids on my puter. What is making you sad???

jmo

The 6 min. video is titled ""Honor Thy Children" The 11th Commandment"

It's about child abuse and mothers who have killed. Casey is the last case shown.

[Daffodil]

:rose: Heartbreaking...

Yes, heartbreaking. But none of the mothers looked like monsters either. There were quite a few cases I have not been aware of.

[mattncats]

It's very graphic and disturbing. Will probably give nightmares if you're sensitive. Wish I hadn't played it.

[EverMoth]

[QUOTE=Mandymax;13168505]I personally believe Casey will fight like the dickens to take the stand. I still think *she* still thinks she can convince anyone of anything. I don't think she's learned a single thing all the time she's been in jail. She'll take the stand.
QUOTE]

~respectfully snipped~

I think Ms. Lyons would quit the case before she'd allow Casey to take the stand. jmo

[KittyMom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

This should be shown on Primetime tv. People need to see what is happening to children and what child killers look like.

:rose:

[EverMoth]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

Hi Bugout. I had not heard this before. What was the content for this statement? Please repeat, if you don't mind. :smile:

[Tia]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

Me too, bugout!!!

or was it like before when you chloroformed Caylee???

I hope we find out what he meant by that during the trial.

[msgatorslayer]

Yes, heartbreaking. But none of the mothers looked like monsters either. There were quite a few cases I have not been aware of.

Yeah, there was quite a few, less known cases. Along with the high profile ones.

They don't look like monsters. They could be our Sisters, Daughters, or Nieces. Normal looking women.

[Unleashed]

The 6 min. video is titled ""Honor Thy Children" The 11th Commandment"

It's about child abuse and mothers who have killed. Casey is the last case shown.

Thanks, msgator. I think. :crying:

[kitty1182]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

Wow:sad:

I would love to have been the arresting officer who arrested the ones who did this..I don't think they would have made it to jail.

[Sun]

I personally believe Casey will fight like the dickens to take the stand. I still think *she* still thinks she can convince anyone of anything. I don't think she's learned a single thing all the time she's been in jail. She'll take the stand.

Regarding all the stolen money and credit cards: what on earth did she buy???? Besides the blue hoodie and the white sunglasses and toilet paper for her boyfriend's apartment and birthday party decorations for Caylee? I mean, good God, I've got credit card debt, too, but I'm a grown woman who's worked for years and had to buy new contacts and get dental work done and pay veterinarians and doggie neurologists for two years for a sick pooch on top my fun shopping. Where on earth did all of Casey's stolen money go?? Anyone know?

JMO, if the death penalty is still on the table, I believe that Lyon will do everything possible to keep Casey from taking the stand. If Lyon would somehow manages to get the death penalty taken off the table before the trial starts, then Lyon won't be around to put in her 2 cents.

[joolz]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

Thanks for bringing this up bugout. That question has been gnawing away at me since I first heard it last year, and there has never been any explanation for it. I wonder if we will ever find out what Lee meant.:angry:

[EverMoth]

JMO, if the death penalty is still on the table, I believe that Lyon will do everything possible to keep Casey from taking the stand. If Lyon would somehow manage to get the death penalty taken off the table before the trial starts, then Lyon won't be around to put in her 2 cents.

The only way I can think of that Lyon could get the DEP off the table before the trial is through a plea deal. Wouldn't that involve a confession and, therefore, avoid the trial altogether? :shrug:

[Dick Tracy]

I personally believe Casey will fight like the dickens to take the stand. I still think *she* still thinks she can convince anyone of anything. I don't think she's learned a single thing all the time she's been in jail. She'll take the stand.

Regarding all the stolen money and credit cards: what on earth did she buy???? Besides the blue hoodie and the white sunglasses and toilet paper for her boyfriend's apartment and birthday party decorations for Caylee? I mean, good God, I've got credit card debt, too, but I'm a grown woman who's worked for years and had to buy new contacts and get dental work done and pay veterinarians and doggie neurologists for two years for a sick pooch on top my fun shopping. Where on earth did all of Casey's stolen money go?? Anyone know?


I somewhat agree, she'll take the stand. Baez and or Ms. Lyon will have her on the stand for four or five days. When the state stands up to do the cross, she'll take the fifth. I see it happening.

She just pizzed it all away. She had to make it look like she had a big time corner office job at Universal. At least to her friends, at the very least.

[msgatorslayer]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

I think it was yesterday, we were conversing about 'the big fight'. And someone, probably Des, posted a transcript between TonE and Lee. Where Lee was telling TonE that there was a fight between Casey and Cindy over Casey not being home much and not bringing Caylee by.

It was an odd convo because, it didn't sound like Lee was talking about the Father's Day 'big fight', IMO.

[msgatorslayer]

It's very graphic and disturbing. Will probably give nightmares if you're sensitive. Wish I hadn't played it.

I'm sorry. I didn't think to give a warning in my post. There is one in the link.

[Dick Tracy]

Hello EM, lets see: In one of the very first interviews with Lee, he asks Casey "was this like before?" it was the same tape about the questions he asked about her working that day, and she said "well It wasn't exactly, "WORK" persay something to that effect?

I guess it would be in Lee's first full taped intv with Casey that we all heard in the first day's it was released. He point blanks asked her "was this like before"

No one knows, exactly what he means. Only lee and casey know.

I know she carried around a spare key in her pocket, that was released very early in this case, but not spoken too much about now. I always thought, maybe he was referring to locking her in the car. Or, "losing" her somehow. Losing, track of her because of drug use, something like that?

I just dont know Moth. But I want to.


Hi Bugs -

Great post. I remember that. Only LEE and CASEY know. I've often thought and theorized that it is possible that Caylee expired in the car, suffocating in the hot Florida sun. But that's just me thinking of different things, at different times.

[margaritaville]

She would have to go into hiding like Karla Homolka. JMO
ITA-- But she has no money... Her parents have no money.
I can't see her skipping the country like Karla did unless she finds some guy with money....she will be stuck in Florida...
I can only imagine the protesters then.
We think they were bad before.......

Moo

[AMS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

:crying::crying:

[Sun]

The only way I can think of that Lyon could get the DEP off the table before the trial is through a plea deal. Wouldn't that involve a confession and, therefore, avoid the trial altogether? :shrug:

I wonder if Lyon is thinking that she will be able to get some evidence thrown out, or something like that. I am going to be very interested to see what the next set of motions will be that are filed by the defense.

Shucks, it wasn't too long ago that wasn't Macaluso saying that he wanted to get Casey released on bond? Seems to me that the defense members say a lot, but so far have done a lot of nothing.

[margaritaville]

It's very graphic and disturbing. Will probably give nightmares if you're sensitive. Wish I hadn't played it.

me too.... I wish I was home and could give my 6 year old the biggest hug he has ever had.......

WOW.....those poor babies.....

I wish there was more we could do to stop that from happening....

the pain these children suffered at the hands of their mom's....
OMG.....
those are some images i will never forget..........:rose::rose:

[EverMoth]

Hello EM, lets see: In one of the very first interviews with Lee, he asks Casey "was this like before?" it was the same tape about the questions he asked about her working that day, and she said "well It wasn't exactly, "WORK" persay something to that effect?

I guess it would be in Lee's first full taped intv with Casey that we all heard in the first day's it was released. He point blanks asked her "was this like before"

No one knows, exactly what he means. Only lee and casey know.

I know she carried around a spare key in her pocket, that was released very early in this case, but not spoken too much about now. I always thought, maybe he was referring to locking her in the car. Or, "losing" her somehow. Losing, track of her because of drug use, something like that?

I just dont know Moth. But I want to.


Thanks much for responding. Yes, that is curious. I would also like to know what that meant. Hmmmmm. . . .

[Unleashed]

The only way I can think of that Lyon could get the DEP off the table before the trial is through a plea deal. Wouldn't that involve a confession and, therefore, avoid the trial altogether? :shrug:

IF (big if) the pros were to offer a deal, and she took it, I would think she would simply have to allocute, meaning no trial. We need Kat or Lapis to confirm.

Anybody know if the allocution would be made public?

JMO

[bluwaters]

me too.... I wish I was home and could give my 6 year old the biggest hug he has ever had.......

WOW.....those poor babies.....

I wish there was more we could do to stop that from happening....

the pain these children suffered at the hands of their mom's....
OMG.....
those are some images i will never forget..........:rose::rose:

I did not play it, thankfully.
Interestingly enough, while we are lamenting this tragic trend,
Richard Grund has just posted an update to his MySpace blog:

What Is Going On?!
It seems like every day we get a new story of a child being abducted, abused or murdered! WHAT IS GOING ON?!
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=85212505&blogId=492886162
:rose:

[EverMoth]

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;13168561]I somewhat agree, she'll take the stand. Baez and or Ms. Lyon will have her on the stand for four or five days. When the state stands up to do the cross, she'll take the fifth. I see it happening.
QUOTE]

Oh, I do not like that scenario one little bit. However, if I were on the jury and a defendent was willing to take the stand to answer leading questions by his/her own attorney but suddenly took the 5th as soon as the State got up to cross, I'd be thinking G U I L T Y.

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony case: Private investigator doesn't want to turn over phone records
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-news-060409,0,3769013.story

This new article clarifies for me some of the questions I had after reading earlier reports on DC's objection to Baez's request for all of his phone records.

I do note that, according to the article, the Anthony's have made no objection to releasing all of their phone records to the the defense.

[num1barb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

Wow. That is so sad.

I'd heard of all of those little angels before. It's heartbreaking to see them all together like that.

The saddest one IMO is baby Brianna...the only pictures ever taken of her were her autopsy photos.

[Unleashed]

Speaking of the Attorneys for people directly related to this case I came across a case BRAD CONWAY successfully tried in Orlando, Fl.


snipped for space

Oh. ............

jmo

[desmom]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

Did ZG's attorneys ask Lee about it during his depo? If not, they should have. jmo

[farrahrani]

I somewhat agree, she'll take the stand. Baez and or Ms. Lyon will have her on the stand for four or five days. When the state stands up to do the cross, she'll take the fifth. I see it happening.

She just pizzed it all away. She had to make it look like she had a big time corner office job at Universal. At least to her friends, at the very least.

Can she have it both ways? Is it allowed to only testify on your own behalf then clam up? Or is it an all or nothing situation? Will her testimony be disregarded if she refuses to answer questions from the pros? Can she pick and choose what she answers?

I'm at a loss here, can one of our experts clear it up for me? :confused:

TIA

[EverMoth]

Can she have it both ways? Is it allowed to only testify on your own behalf then clam up? Or is it an all or nothing situation? Will her testimony be disregarded if she refuses to answer questions from the pros? Can she pick and choose what she answers?

I'm at a loss here, can one of our experts clear it up for me? :confused:

TIA

Great question. I would like to know the answer to that as well.

[CelticDawn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKdRCOOW9K4

:sad:

OK now that just tore my heart right out and made me so ANGRY at the same time.......if that is at all possible.

[Sun]

Casey Anthony case: Private investigator doesn't want to turn over phone records
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-news-060409,0,3769013.story

This new article clarifies for me some of the questions I had after reading earlier reports on DC's objection to Baez's request for all of his phone records.

I do note that, according to the article, the Anthony's have made no objection to releasing all of their phone records to the the defense.

I wonder why DCasey says that he didn't receive any notice of the hearing? Did Baez fail in somewhat to notify him? Or, is this just an excuse to try to get the Judge to recind his order, and to hear their arguements? This Diana Tennis is a different attorney than Chaney Mason who was representing DCasey in Mar2009.

Seems to me that DCasey is scrambling. Morgan has filed Contempt charges against DCAsey for being a no-show at his depo. DCasey has put in a complaint to the Florida Bar against Baez. DCasey, IMO lied through his depo to LE/FBI. And, seems like JHoover has told a few things about DCasey that just makes me go hmmmmm?

[Daffodil]

Speaking of the Attorneys for people directly related to this case I came across a case BRAD CONWAY successfully tried in Orlando, Fl.

It was the SADDEST case I have read about .

Many have spoken their minds concerning ZG right or wrongful defamation suit against Casey............LOOK at what a real defamation case LOOKS like !

While your at it ..take NOTE BRAD CONWAY who represents the Anthony's has been drug through the MUD here ,wrongly IMO.


The defamation case Brad Conway won victory over , however I think the 2 million dollar verdict was not enough compensation for this victim .



A fifty some year old Orlando man was SET UP and accused of molesting his OWN comatose mother while in a very well known Florida Hospital.


It was proven that the nurses , doctors and hospital administration all orchestrated this horrendous LIE to cover their A$$ SET$ !


This poor man while being the only advocate for his bed ridden alztheimer,comatose stricken; mother was defamed in the most horrendous ,ugly ,evil act I have ever read about.


THAN GOD Brad Conway was able to show the court the orchestrated illegal acts of the Hospital , administration , nurses and doctors who were involved and exposed them all !


This hospital and their evil crew orchestrated a plan to get the poor son who loved and cared for his ailing mother arrested for molesting his mother ,where in they stated he had sexually molested her ALL because he had been begging the NURSE on call to bandage an ulcer on his mothers foot and the nurse refused . When he asked that he be allowed to take care of that himself ,hence he had cared for open wounds on her before ,the nurse would not allow it ,yet she would not do it herself either !

The poor guy cornered and mad and trying to figure out some way to get his mothers open would covered to protect from further infection wrote a note " My mothers foot is not bandaged " he asked the nurse one last time to bandage the open wound ( ulcer) let him bandage the foot or sign the note ...............

The NURSE in a HUFF signed the note . ( ooops )


When Hospital, admin ,charge nurse learned of this signed note , the next day when he came to visit his mother the charge nurse and another got him in the room started screaming at him demanding the note back and threatened to call police if he did not give up the note.


The son stood his ground refused to give back the note . One of the nurses walked out ,stood in an open doorway of another BUT UPRIGHT NURSE who later testified to the corruption that the BAD nurse said we are going to GET THIS GUY , we are going to say he was sexually inappropriate with his mother , we have done this before "


This poor son who was the only advocate for his mother was arrested for molesting his own mother ( God have mercy on that man ) and HE DID but............


This POOR SON picketed this hospital 8 hours a day, 6 days a week for 18 months straight .....!!!!


The case went to court , it was proven by forensics that the nurses actually took blood from his mothers IV and distributed it on her bed pad to make it appear that he had rectally invaded his own mothers rectum amongst other of their FALSE DEFAMING CLAIMS !


Can you only imagine being defamed this way , but more so by a Hospital and staff who are their to HEAL , and save lives ,whom you place all your trust ?


DEPLORABLE is what it is !



"Brad Conway "

successfully won a verdict for his client in this case , it took 8 YEARS or more to resolve as the hospital ( A non profit organization ) claimed that even though their non profit status earned them 4 billion a year in revenue could not afford the verdict and fought with appeals ,further distressing this VICTIM of severe defamation !


BRAD CONWAY KUDOS TO YOU !



I was sickened to hear of this and its SAD to know and hear that people will defame you as well for defending a party when they do NOT know the full details , things MAY appear ONE WAY , but given further time its not always as it appears , is it ?

You can watch actual video , read transcripts and more on the case , this got its own website and rightfully so at


www.healthcareretaliation.com




The link does not work for me. I could not read the whole post. It just seems too bizarre. So............unless there is a valid link, I have to dismiss it as being false.

[Sun]

Can she have it both ways? Is it allowed to only testify on your own behalf then clam up? Or is it an all or nothing situation? Will her testimony be disregarded if she refuses to answer questions from the pros? Can she pick and choose what she answers?

I'm at a loss here, can one of our experts clear it up for me? :confused:

TIA

If Casey takes the stand, then the State is allowed to cross examine her. She must answer on cross examination. If she opens the door, she cannot then refuse to answer by pleading the Fifth.

[saywhat04]

Hello EM, lets see: In one of the very first interviews with Lee, he asks Casey "was this like before?" it was the same tape about the questions he asked about her working that day, and she said "well It wasn't exactly, "WORK" persay something to that effect?

I guess it would be in Lee's first full taped intv with Casey that we all heard in the first day's it was released. He point blanks asked her "was this like before"

No one knows, exactly what he means. Only lee and casey know.

I know she carried around a spare key in her pocket, that was released very early in this case, but not spoken too much about now. I always thought, maybe he was referring to locking her in the car. Or, "losing" her somehow. Losing, track of her because of drug use, something like that?

I just dont know Moth. But I want to.

I don't think we'll ever learn the truth, because it would be up to the Anthonys to tell us.

What it means, to me, is more of the same. Casey was a loose cannon, her bad behavior was escalating rapidly, and her family chose to continue to lie and cover for her. Caylee paid the price.

[CelticDawn]

snipped for space

Oh. ............

jmo

Even the horriblest people have done something good in their lives.

brad Conway IMO has now layed down with dogs and got fleas.....sorry

He did a good thing there.....but that is SO TOTALLY DIFFERENT....

AND as far as ZFG goes,....too many things casey used that she had to get from knowledge (be it secondhand or not) of THIS ZFG....

[Lapis]

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;13168561]I somewhat agree, she'll take the stand. Baez and or Ms. Lyon will have her on the stand for four or five days. When the state stands up to do the cross, she'll take the fifth. I see it happening.
QUOTE]

Oh, I do not like that scenario one little bit. However, if I were on the jury and a defendent was willing to take the stand to answer leading questions by his/her own attorney but suddenly took the 5th as soon as the State got up to cross, I'd be thinking G U I L T Y.

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

[aproudmom]

Just got on my Myspace page and had a message that the family was not involved in the vigil for Caylee but then saw a bulletin so figured I would check it out...not sure who runs it..but looks like MB has upset someone..

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=471092521&blogId=492708816

I will say I did get a email the Anthony's have no part in planning the vigil for caylee on the 16th and BP

[Sun]

6/3/2009 Letter
6/3/2009 Order Granting Motion to Amend COMPLAINT

Here are the last two entries filed in the Civil Case on the Clerk of Courts records. What do they mean?

[EverMoth]

If Casey takes the stand, then the State is allowed to cross examine her. She must answer on cross examination. If she opens the door, she cannot then refuse to answer by pleading the Fifth.

Whew. Thx Sun - glad that's answered. That being the case, my guess is that AL will prevent her from taking the stand and vehemently if need be.

Casey testifying = guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt = DP

jmo

[Sun]

[QUOTE=EverMoth;13168614]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

Thanks so much Lapis! You are wonderful for educating all of us!

[CelticDawn]

[QUOTE=EverMoth;13168614]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

THANK YOU. Maybe theyll believe you because you are an attorney...

However, even IF this particular skel took a plea and had to allocute....shw would LIE. at least that is what I believe. swearing in court means nothing to it.

[AbbyNormal]

When I read about ZG defamation lawsuit , when I KNOW the facts surrounding it , it is SO BOGUS ,so trivial , so unwarranted ,for so many reasons .............I DESPISE seeing the courts time taken up this way .


There are REAL pertinent cases that need to be heard ....M&M need sanctions for even GOING there with this IMO.

I disagree. ZG's case has merit or M & M would not even entertain the idea of representing her. I also believe GA and CinA think it has merit too --- why else would they be so hostile if the case had no teeth?

jmo

[saywhat04]

Just got on my Myspace page and had a message that the family was not involved in the vigil for Caylee but then saw a bulletin so figured I would check it out...not sure who runs it..but looks like MB has upset someone..

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=471092521&blogId=492708816

I will say I did get a email the Anthony's have no part in planning the vigil for caylee on the 16th and BP

I think it's a riot Camp Anthony feels the need to *get the word out* they're not involved in the vigil being planned. That info should only serve to exponentially increase the number of people who will attend the JBP vigil.

[Daffodil]

www.healthcareretaliation.com



HOW could the link NOT work ,I just tried again and it most certainly works .

Bizarre huh .....100% TRUTH !


And Brad Conway was an Attorney on the case....


It is SHOCKING ,I know that THIS could possibly happen ,try the link again you will see the TRUTH .



The link did work this time. What a very disturbing story. It just boggles my mind that something like this could happen.

I didn't read the whole thing so I have a few questions:

1. Was his mother removed from that nursing home shortly after the police came and took her son away.

2. How long from that incidnet to him receiving a judgement in his favor?

3. What year did this take place? Is the mother still alive? If not, when did she pass away.

Just disturbing. And Yes, I can believe it happened.

[*MoonRider*]

I disagree. ZG's case has merit or M & M would not even entertain the idea of representing her. I also believe GA and CinA think it has merit too --- why else would they be so hostile if the case had no teeth?

jmo

Because the care more about $$$$$ than murder :shrug:

[margaritaville]

www.healthcareretaliation.com



HOW could the link NOT work ,I just tried again and it most certainly works .

Bizarre huh .....100% TRUTH !


And Brad Conway was an Attorney on the case....


It is SHOCKING ,I know that THIS could possibly happen ,try the link again you will see the TRUTH .

Link works for me....

[AbbyNormal]

Because the care more about $$$$$ than murder :shrug:

Yes, agreed :biggrin:
They could lose $$$$ in the ZG defamation case, and they are afraid (because the case does have merit). jmo


(errands to run, hope to bbl)

[aproudmom]

[QUOTE=EverMoth;13168614]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

OMG even I knew that:laugh:

[Unleashed]

[QUOTE=EverMoth;13168614]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

:laugh: Thanks, Lapis.

We'll bump your post every hour or so. I know I can never remember.

JMO

[missinglink]

I think it's a riot Camp Anthony feels the need to *get the word out* they're not involved in the vigil being planned. That info should only serve to exponentially increase the number of people who will attend the JBP vigil.

I agree with all you said saywhat.

O/T I left quickly yesterday because my daughter walked in the house and I didn't want her seeing my email up and seeing I had written evil Cindy! I closed my email and this board ASAP. What you said about BFF was hilarious, you silly goose.

Thanks goes out to AMS and everyone else that tried to help me with copy/paste. I'm waiting for my next letter.

[Daffodil]

I am surprised to hear that from you , maybe you didn't really mean it like is sounds :


EVEN the most HORRIBLE of people have done something good in their lives ?

So Brad Conway is a HORRIBLE person because he is defending the Anthony's ?


I'll tell you my thoughts on that :


Brad Conway seems to FEEL where others are coming from , just as he did in the CASE where you agree he did a very good thing ....

I AS WELL CAN FEEL the REASONS the Anthony's have acted as they have , of which I hold them not accountable as you know . I will not judge them for any of their actions concerning ANY MATTER at all that has derived from the inception of this nightmare UPON THEM and yes , even their beloved daughter.


We all know a small child was taken from this whole tragic set of events , no need to ditto that , but its quite more complicated then appears to the eye ....you either can truly place yourselves in anothers shoes and weigh each aspect or you can't , it takes a BIG open heart .....with much compassion ..i do NOT expect everyone to have this ability , but there are some who do ...


BRAD CONWAY is ONE of them , so again :


Kudos to BRAD CONWAY !

You hold them not accountable to what?

Where do you draw the line at cutting them some slack?

Because their grand daughter was murdered by their daughter, they are exempt from doing anything wrong for the rest of their lives?

Oh, Lord, where are you when we need you?

[saywhat04]

I agree with all you said saywhat.

O/T I left quickly yesterday because my daughter walked in the house and I didn't want her seeing my email up and seeing I had written evil Cindy! I closed my email and this board ASAP. What you said about BFF was hilarious, you silly goose.

Thanks goes out to AMS and everyone else that tried to help me with copy/paste. I'm waiting for my next letter.

My bolding. :thumbsup:

[missinglink]

You hold them not accountable to what?

Where do you draw the line at cutting them some slack?

Because their grand daughter was murdered by their daughter, they are exempt from doing anything wrong for the rest of their lives?

Oh, Lord, where are you when we need you?

Amazing, isn't it?

[Dick Tracy]

[QUOTE=EverMoth;13168614]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

That's good to know. Can you please explain how Mark Fuhrman was able to take the fifth?

Or.... because he wasn't a defendant, just a witness?

[CelticDawn]

The thing is many people have very bad things happen to them in their lives, but they are accountable. Just because the anthonys lost caylee does not give them carte blanche to interfere with (by misleading LE) to lie to protect the very same childs killer, or to act like total creeps in public. Some way of honouring their deceased granddaughter. I understand that they lost casey too.....but that does NOT excuse obstructing and interfering.

And there sits brad Conway who IMO is HIMSELF interfering with caseys crimminal trial......IMO, HE TOO is obstructing justice at this point.


Now as far as what I said about horrible people having once done good things.....YES he won that case....which is a good thing....It is ALSO his JOB to do that....

People change....some for good....some for bad.....Looks like Brad Conway has done the latter.I hope whatever he is getting out of this is worth it.

[Lapis]

DT

I did not quote you because there seems to be a mixup in the quotes. Furman was just a witness and not the accused and therefore had not waived his rights. Also, the issue was collateral to the one being tried. JMO

[margaritaville]

Brad Conway seems to FEEL where others are coming from , just as he did in the CASE where you agree he did a very good thing ....

I AS WELL CAN FEEL the REASONS the Anthony's have acted as they have , of which I hold them not accountable as you know . I will not judge them for any of their actions concerning ANY MATTER at all that has derived from the inception of this nightmare UPON THEM and yes , even their beloved daughter.


We all know a small child was taken from this whole tragic set of events , no need to ditto that , but its quite more complicated then appears to the eye ....you either can truly place yourselves in anothers shoes and weigh each aspect or you can't , it takes a BIG open heart .....with much compassion ..i do NOT expect everyone to have this ability , but there are some who do ...


BRAD CONWAY is ONE of them , so again :


Kudos to BRAD CONWAY !

Bolding mine...

Okay so you are a George and Cindy A. supporter.
cindy has said she had thousands of them.

I now know of 1... shekeria
maybe by the end of the day I will be at 2 :shrug:

[CelticDawn]

On November 30, 2007, the 5th District Court of Appeals published their opinion of Mr. Destefano's appeal. Mr. Destefano will be appealing to the Florida Supreme Court.



HEALTHCARE RETALIATION

It works.....

[cassidy]

[QUOTE=Lapis;13168694]

That's good to know. Can you please explain how Mark Fuhrman was able to take the fifth?

Or.... because he wasn't a defendant, just a witness?

You answered yourself. Mark Furman wasn't the defendant.

[CelticDawn]

So now, because BRAD CONWAY did something GOOD we are to excuse him and his clients behaviour?


I don't see anyone forgiving ME my transgressions and I didnt do ANYTHING so horrible as obstructing justice and interfering with an active investigation.

[*MoonRider*]

Bolding mine...

Okay so you are a George and Cindy A. supporter.
cindy has said she had thousands of them.

I now know of 1... shekeria
maybe by the end of the day I will be at 2 :shrug:

I'd say that chances of that is nil. jmo

[Daffodil]

1. She was first at the nursing home owned by Florida hospital as well ,then moved to Florida Hospital , then on to ORMC where THEY too were supposed to have some involvement and rectifying the allegations, that WERE PROVEN FALSE.


2. I believe 1999 and the case drug on till late 2007 .This should answer both 2 & 3.



Well its hard to believe ,but as an example concerning other cases , it just shows to me that things may seem one way ,when in reality , thats not the case at all ...thank you for reading it .



Thanks for the answers. But when did his mother pass away?

It is hard to believe. But reading that link helped. You are right that things may seem one way and in reality they are truly different than what appeared to have happened.

From my experiences, things like this usually happen when it is more than one individual involved in the false accusations just like this nursing home. I have seen it through local government and even in schools. Because I think there is a need to "protect your own". Wow, as I typed those words, I realized that is exactly what the A's are doing.

I need to ask you what is more important: having an open mind and heart when it comes to the A's or having an open mind and heart when it comes to what happened to Caylee. I just see all your "openess" in the direction of the A's. I would have loved to see it going towards Caylee. And I think that is the biggest complaint people have about the A's.

I also wonder if you know them well. Because I don't see anyone standing up for them in public. I do see the Millsteads at their side but I don't hear them saying anything.

I guess my open mindedness and open heart will go towards a poor helpless child who could never be able to protect herself.

There has to come a point where you draw the line. Where is it?

[saywhat04]

Can someone copy and paste what it says there? I'm denied access. (Probably because I'm a fat, sad, lonely blogger who loves pork rinds.)

There's nothing on the page that I could see. Looks like it's currently unavailable.

Edited to add: When I last saw it, it had a rambling, nearly incoherent statement by M. Bart about the A's not being involved in the planned vigil.

[Daffodil]

I agree with all you said saywhat.

O/T I left quickly yesterday because my daughter walked in the house and I didn't want her seeing my email up and seeing I had written evil Cindy! I closed my email and this board ASAP. What you said about BFF was hilarious, you silly goose.

Thanks goes out to AMS and everyone else that tried to help me with copy/paste. I'm waiting for my next letter.

Did you ever post her response? If so, I missed it. Where can I find it?

I also close my email and this board just like you do.

[Sandy001]

This yearbook thing really has me tickled. I wonder if Cindy is burning up the phone lines contacting the alumni of Colonial H.S. ordering them to not sell their yearbooks on ebay.

:lol:
I wonder if Cindy is burning up the phone lines contacting the alumni of Colonial H.S. ordering them to not sell their yearbooks on ebay.

Sorry changed it to the operative word....lol

[Sandy001]

Nope. It doesn't work.

And just because BC did something good for someone at some point in his career doesn't mean a thing in the Anthony case. Anyone associated with that family is suspect in my mind. Why does he want to represent them? It's only for his own personal gain.

IMHO Bc's job is to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Can't be done imo His clients do NOT listen to anyone, not even the man they hired to make them look good.

[crimeq]

I don't think she perfected it very well. Didn't George at some point say he KNEW the emails were faked? Soemthing about checking the ip's of where they came from? Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.
If she were really smart, she would have sent them from another location, something most high school kids these days already know, and have informed me about lol.


And as far as shoplifting. We do know she has a sealed record, just not what it's for. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was for some kind of theft, either shoplifting, credit card fraud, check fraud, something like that. She seems like the kind of person to just keep doing what she wants and has no shame, given how many people she's stolen from, and continued to steal from.

Casey was getting money from somewhere other than stealing, IMO. She put way too much work into creating a fake job and I think it was to cover up something in the "escort" field, perhaps. Or something else shady.

That's just too much work to do, to prove a job--it's a cover-up IMO.

ETA: and remember the photos that LE showed George, that made him sick. I'll bet those are related to how she was making whatever money she was making. I am curious about those photos not being leaked, btw.

[Sandy001]

The thing is many people have very bad things happen to them in their lives, but they are accountable. Just because the anthonys lost caylee does not give them carte blanche to interfere with (by misleading LE) to lie to protect the very same childs killer, or to act like total creeps in public. Some way of honouring their deceased granddaughter. I understand that they lost casey too.....but that does NOT excuse obstructing and interfering.

And there sits brad Conway who IMO is HIMSELF interfering with caseys crimminal trial......IMO, HE TOO is obstructing justice at this point.


Now as far as what I said about horrible people having once done good things.....YES he won that case....which is a good thing....It is ALSO his JOB to do that....People change....some for good....some for bad.....Looks like Brad Conway has done the latter.I hope whatever he is getting out of this is worth it.

I am sure BC was also compensated for that "good job."
Did he do it pro bono? That would make him a great person. Otherwise, he is just "doing his job." as you stated.

[Lapis]

I am sure BC was also compensated for that "good job."
Did he do it pro bono? That would make him a great person. Otherwise, he is just "doing his job." as you stated.

While I am loathe to draw wrath. I am sure that BC took the case on a contingency basis as I am sure M&M has with ZG. JMO

[missinglink]

I'd say that chances of that is nil. jmo

...unless the poster who was "playing us the night before last" decides to do it again. :w00t:

[GIGI4256]

Of course you can be forgiven , you just have to really mean it , it has to come from the heart when you ask forgiveness , the one granting it will know if its pure or not.


Just what IS Brads behavior , why do you say he is a horrible person ?

I have heard all there is to hear about how horrible the Anthony's are , sorry I don't buy it .

I did not KNOW them before this life changing ,altering event that has obviously made an impact on them to such a degree that they can not be held accountable for their personality flaws, short comings, their eyebrow shapes that have offended many , the look on thier faces ( expressions) the way they hold their shoulders , their weight loss or gain , the clothes they wear , the CATCH 22 they have been out into ....so much more ....


The FACT that I could never imagine being in their shoes , the FACT that I have tried to place myself in their shoes and just have to STOP because its too painful to contemplate SHOWS me that to actually have to LIVE in their , walk their mile would be too much to bare , not just ONE tragedy fell upon them , not too , but too many to list and to be persecuted AFTER ALL OF THAT , on TOP of it ...

It tells me that Cindy does have great faith and she can be persecuted day and night and will not lose her faith because GOD is carrying her through this ...............so see she does have another advocate because she could not have come this far without that FAITH ...

Whatever happens our maker knows what she has endured ,what that family has endured and truly God has walked with her and forgiven her all her transgressions , right or wrong , HE understands .

That's nice. Everyone has his/her own opinion. I do not agree with yours. JMO!

[ttcRider]

So now, because BRAD CONWAY did something GOOD we are to excuse him and his clients behaviour?


I don't see anyone forgiving ME my transgressions and I didnt do ANYTHING so horrible as obstructing justice and interfering with an active investigation.

Sorry, I'm just hopping on now, what did Brad do?? tia

[CelticDawn]

Of course you can be forgiven , you just have to really mean it , it has to come from the heart when you ask forgiveness , the one granting it will know if its pure or not.


Just what IS Brads behavior , why do you say he is a horrible person ?

I have heard all there is to hear about how horrible the Anthony's are , sorry I don't buy it .

I did not KNOW them before this life changing ,altering event that has obviously made an impact on them to such a degree that they can not be held accountable for their personality flaws, short comings, their eyebrow shapes that have offended many , the look on thier faces ( expressions) the way they hold their shoulders , their weight loss or gain , the clothes they wear , the CATCH 22 they have been out into ....so much more ....


The FACT that I could never imagine being in their shoes , the FACT that I have tried to place myself in their shoes and just have to STOP because its too painful to contemplate SHOWS me that to actually have to LIVE in their , walk their mile would be too much to bare , not just ONE tragedy fell upon them , not too , but too many to list and to be persecuted AFTER ALL OF THAT , on TOP of it ...

It tells me that Cindy does have great faith and she can be persecuted day and night and will not lose her faith because GOD is carrying her through this ...............so see she does have another advocate because she could not have come this far without that FAITH ...

Whatever happens our maker knows what she has endured ,what that family has endured and truly God has walked with her and forgiven her all her transgressions , right or wrong , HE understands .


You are mixing forgiveness by God with forgiveness by the law first of all.....and either way ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS AND CONTINUING WITH THE SAME BEHAVIOUR IS NOT PURE.....so i dont buy what you are peddling either.



brad conway is interfering with this case and thus denying caylee justice.

Maybe you can find someone else to buy into your forgiveness scheme but they ALL continue to act and do things that are just plain wrong.....some illegal others bordering on illegal.....I suppose yu believe that they should get to court and purger themselves and although that is illegal, and wrong.....they should NOT be accountable.

[bluwaters]

I disagree. ZG's case has merit or M & M would not even entertain the idea of representing her. I also believe GA and CinA think it has merit too --- why else would they be so hostile if the case had no teeth?

jmo

I am in complete agreement with you AbbyN!
shekeria is entitled to another opinion, as are many others.
Thank goodness for our court system.
It is up to the court to decide the issue.
Judge Rodriguez obviously thinks the case has merit, at this point in time.

[missinglink]

Did you ever post her response? If so, I missed it. Where can I find it?

I also close my email and this board just like you do.

No, since it was such a short answer. I think I have copy/paste down now so I will do that if I get an answer to my first email I sent her.

By the way, isn't tomorrow Cindy's 51st birthday?

[saywhat04]

Let's take a vote.

I predict Conway will:

Quit the A's outright and make a public statement similar to what their previous attorney, Mark NeJame, felt the need to do.
Quit the A's quietly, with no public statement and no presser.
Not quit the A's immediately, but fade away slowly, appearing less in public with them, and speaking less on their behalf.
Regroup and continue to represent them as he has done in the past.

Thoughts?

[Ckrdpast]

...unless the poster who was "playing us the night before last" decides to do it again. :w00t:

missinglink--you read my mind!!:thumbsup:

[AMS]

Can someone copy and paste what it says there? I'm denied access. (Probably because I'm a fat, sad, lonely blogger who loves pork rinds.)

I'm denied access too!! My fav is Doritos!! :wink:

imo

[spiritwolf46]

Nope. It doesn't work.

And just because BC did something good for someone at some point in his career doesn't mean a thing in the Anthony case. Anyone associated with that family is suspect in my mind. Why does he want to represent them? It's only for his own personal gain.

IMHO

Hiya sweet pea and all you wonderful posters!

ITA with this post with all that I have! He is, IMO, another camera/media hog. There is NO way that he does not know the kind of vile people that the A's are and yet, tries to sell to the world that they are greiving grandparents! He is full of it!

At least NeJames had CLASS and didn't keep trying to sell the world encyclopedias with NO PAGES, if ya get the drift, and he got the he77 away from those mongers! He is a VERY SMART MAN!

ETA: O/T:New grandma!!! Baby Girl Sydney. 7lbs 13 ozs and 20 inches long! Ok....back to topic. :biggrin:

[CelticDawn]

I am sure BC was also compensated for that "good job."
Did he do it pro bono? That would make him a great person. Otherwise, he is just "doing his job." as you stated.

Hews on the circus sircuit with those people suborning lies and soon to be purgery .....some officer of the court.

whether its official or not, he IS working with the defense.....

IMO his hands are dirty and getting dirtier.

[saywhat04]

I am in complete agreement with you AbbyN!
shekeria is entitled to another opinion, as are many others.
Thank goodness for our court system.
It is up to the court to decide the issue.
Judge Rodriguez obviously thinks the case has merit, at this point in time.

Yes, he obviously does. He allowed it to move forward, and allowed the addition or inclusion of punitive damages.

[crimeq]

I still would like to know exactly what LEE ANTHONY MEANT when he asked Casey "was this like before".

Whatever happened "before" is paramount to me. I want to know, what he knows. Was this like before when you locked your kid in the car and she about melted? Was this like before that you got wasted and forgot where your kid was? Was this like before, when you hit her too hard?
What did he mean?

Do you remember Cindy stressing that Casey always carried a spare car key in her pocket, in case she accidentally locked Caylee in the car?

I think that really happened, that she accidentally locked Caylee in the car on a very hot day in FL and she had to call for help.

Maybe Lee was referring to that--did you lock her in the hot car again (this time fatally).

[Sandy001]

Ah, thanks Kitty.

Why oh why don't we know what it's for? Where is the headline "Tot Mom was arrested for [insert] when she was 14'?

I see it all the time.

Man arrested for [insert] has a past record. When he was 16, he was arrested for [insert].

Long record for man accused of [insert]. Starting at age 15, suspect has been arrested [insert] times. Burlarly, petty theft, etc, etc.

A juvenille record in the State of Florida isn't totally protected like it may be in other states. It is NEVER totally protected. It is always available to the courts or to law enforcement. It's just not available to the ordinary person.

Juvenile records are routinely considered in sentencing of adults.

[CelticDawn]

Hiya sweet pea and all you wonderful posters!

ITA with this post with all that I have! He is, IMO, another camera/media hog. There is NO way that he does not know the kind of vile people that the A's are and yet, tries to sell to the world that they are greiving grandparents! He is full of it!

At least NeJames had CLASS and didn't keep trying to sell the world encyclopedias with NO PAGES, if ya get the drift, and he got the he77 away from those mongers! He is a VERY SMART MAN!

so true!


It is sickening the way they are all behaving and their loss does not excuse their behaviour.

Could you or I or any of us suffer a loss like this and then lie beg borrow and steal to get the killer of the one we claim to be grieving off?....could we purger ourselves and do illegal things and be EXCUSED?

well if so, lets just throw out all the law books and turn the courthouses into barrooms.

[Unleashed]

I am sure BC was also compensated for that "good job."
Did he do it pro bono? That would make him a great person. Otherwise, he is just "doing his job." as you stated.

Awww, Sandy. You're such a cynic.:laugh:

[missinglink]

Let's take a vote.

I predict Conway will:

Quit the A's outright and make a public statement similar to what their previous attorney, Mark NeJame, felt the need to do.
Quit the A's quietly, with no public statement and no presser.
Not quit the A's immediately, but fade away slowly, appearing less in public with them, and speaking less on their behalf.
Regroup and continue to represent them as he has done in the past.

Thoughts?

I don't have any thoughts really, but I say #3. LOL!

[CelticDawn]

This is so ridiculous. The Anthonys are not being persecuted for their faith! They are being watched and discussed because they do outrageous things in order to cover up what their daughter did to their granddaughter!

As far as being forgiven, yes I'm sure they could be. If they asked for forgiveness, they would be forgiven. But if that happened, we would see a complete change in their behaviour. You can't just ask for forgiveness and then go on acting the way they're acting. God does understand what they're going through, but I doubt He approves of how they handle things.


FAITH that they can lie cheat and bully everyone around to their way of thinking is what faith they have

IMO



round room.....corners dear.....:laugh:

[Sun]

Casey was getting money from somewhere other than stealing, IMO. She put way too much work into creating a fake job and I think it was to cover up something in the "escort" field, perhaps. Or something else shady.

That's just too much work to do, to prove a job--it's a cover-up IMO.

ETA: and remember the photos that LE showed George, that made him sick. I'll bet those are related to how she was making whatever money she was making. I am curious about those photos not being leaked, btw.

Casey was getting money ...most likely Cindy KNEW exactly how much Casey was stealing from her purse, and stealing from her accounts/CCs. Cindy doesn't want the public to know that she KNEW, and doesn't want the public to know that this was a major source of arguments in the Anthony home.

IMO, Casey also got guys to "loan" her money. Money which Casey had no intentions of paying back, and the guys probably knew that she wouldn't either. :loveeyes:

[Unleashed]

Nuttin.

Shekaria just wants us to know what an outstanding fellow he is. :rolleyes:

Oh.

and JMO, IMO.

[crimeq]

I personally believe Casey will fight like the dickens to take the stand. I still think *she* still thinks she can convince anyone of anything. I don't think she's learned a single thing all the time she's been in jail. She'll take the stand.

Regarding all the stolen money and credit cards: what on earth did she buy???? Besides the blue hoodie and the white sunglasses and toilet paper for her boyfriend's apartment and birthday party decorations for Caylee? I mean, good God, I've got credit card debt, too, but I'm a grown woman who's worked for years and had to buy new contacts and get dental work done and pay veterinarians and doggie neurologists for two years for a sick pooch on top my fun shopping. Where on earth did all of Casey's stolen money go?? Anyone know?

Good question, because Cindy apparently noticed everything "new" coming into the house--she noticed the hair straightener and videos and when asked, Casey said that Zanny had given them to her.

That brings up another question: why wouldn't Casey just say she bought them? Why make an excuse? Because Cindy knew she wasn't working, didn't have money, saw credit card receipts and knew those purchases weren't on them--this is another very strange event to me.

[AMS]

Let's take a vote.

I predict Conway will:

Quit the A's outright and make a public statement similar to what their previous attorney, Mark NeJame, felt the need to do.
Quit the A's quietly, with no public statement and no presser.
Not quit the A's immediately, but fade away slowly, appearing less in public with them, and speaking less on their behalf.
Regroup and continue to represent them as he has done in the past.

Thoughts?

My vote is for #2. I do think he will quit but will not have the need to make a media event out of it.

imo

[Sandy001]

I think that George is much much smarter than he lets on. I think he likes to cling to that dopey helpless in Cindy's clutches type of sympathetic persona. Notice how much of the public outcry is focused mainly on Cindy.

I also strongly doubt his claims of that Nigerian scam. It's fairly well known, and being a former detective he could in no way be that dumb, whether its homicide or just a plain cop. In fact, most LE that I know were the ones to warn me about this. I strongly believe that the first story out, about his gambling debts, is the true story. The Nigerian scam is somehow less tasteless than gambling, and more likely to make him a sympathetic, brainless victim in the public's eyes.

Those scammers are GOOD. A friend's husband (who is VERY computer literate) didn't read the TOS on a work from home scam. He was hit with a bill of $99 for it and now they have his bank account for $45 a month. Could George have been suckered into something like that? Thikning he could earn a living at home, vs. working outside the home? I don't think George is stupid. I think he is naive and VERY much under Cindy's control. He seems to be honest if Cindy is not near him. When they are together, she is ALWAYS holding his hand, controlling him. It just doesn't look normal to me. More like she can squeeze his hand or dig her nails into his hand to prevent him from being honest.

I think the wrath of Cindy is ugly to behold.

[saywhat04]

I don't have any thoughts really, but I say #3. LOL!

I think that's my choice as well, m-link. He probably committed either to himself or to them he wouldn't walk away like NeJame did. So I'll wait for him to simply fade away. I hope he does. The Anthonys are simply not good people to be involved with.

[missinglink]

missinglink--you read my mind!!:thumbsup:

I know! :w00t:

:tonguewag:

[bluwaters]

Please Please Please If I teach this board nothing else, please understand. Any defendant taking the stand has waived all 5th amendment rights. He/she cannot take the stand and then plead the 5th on any questions he/she does not want to answer. Please spread the word. JMO

Thank you Lapis!!!

This is such an important point to remember.
I cannot imagine Casey on the stand.
I would like to see it though. :sneaky:

However, despite the normal, compelling reasons that a defendant usually does not take the stand in their own defense, it would be ludicrous to expect her to testify.
She speaks mis-truths :w00t:, to anyone, anywhere, at anytime to suit whatever situation in which she finds herself.
Why would a jury give her testimony any credence?
She has not credibility and I am certain that will be established at trial right off the bat.
Her mom and dad are not far behind her in the credibility department either.
jmho

[saywhat04]

My vote is for #2. I do think he will quit but will not have the need to make a media event out of it.

imo

That's my second choice. :smile:

[Sandy001]

Good question, because Cindy apparently noticed everything "new" coming into the house--she noticed the hair straightener and videos and when asked, Casey said that Zanny had given them to her.

That brings up another question: why wouldn't Casey just say she bought them? Why make an excuse? Because Cindy knew she wasn't working, didn't have money, saw credit card receipts and knew those purchases weren't on them--this is another very strange event to me. My guess is that Cindy KNEW Casey was stealing - either money from her friends or shoplifting, but Cindy didn't care because it didn't affect Cindy.

[saywhat04]

Congrats, spirit! :wub:

[saywhat04]

Thank you Lapis!!!

This is such an important point to remember.
I cannot imagine Casey on the stand.
I would like to see it though. :sneaky:

However, despite the normal, compelling reasons that a defendant usually does not take the stand in their own defense, it would be ludicrous to expect her to testify.
She speaks mis-truths :w00t:, to anyone, anywhere, at anytime to suit whatever situation in which she finds herself.
Why would a jury give her testimony any credence?
She has not credibility and I am certain that will be established at trial right off the bat.
Her mom and dad are not far behind her in the credibility department either.
jmho

I think Linda Drane-Burdick would make quick work of the OC on the stand. She'd look a bit like finely grated cheese by the end of it. Same for her parental units. :thumbsup:

[*MoonRider*]

Nuttin.

Shekaria just wants us to know what an outstanding fellow he is. :rolleyes:

The comma misplacement is exactly like the Pepsi products. imo

[Sandy001]

Thank you Lapis!!!

This is such an important point to remember.
I cannot imagine Casey on the stand.
I would like to see it though. :sneaky:

However, despite the normal, compelling reasons that a defendant usually does not take the stand in their own defense, it would be ludicrous to expect her to testify.
She speaks mis-truths :w00t:, to anyone, anywhere, at anytime to suit whatever situation in which she finds herself.
Why would a jury give her testimony any credence?
She has not credibility and I am certain that will be established at trial right off the bat.
Her mom and dad are not far behind her in the credibility department either.
jmho If Casey wants to take the stand, I don't think ANYONE can stop her. I believe she will have to admit to the Judge that she does NOT want to take the stand. I know she will be advised not to, but she has the right and the Judge will make sure that she has waived that right.

[Sun]

Good question, because Cindy apparently noticed everything "new" coming into the house--she noticed the hair straightener and videos and when asked, Casey said that Zanny had given them to her.

That brings up another question: why wouldn't Casey just say she bought them? Why make an excuse? Because Cindy knew she wasn't working, didn't have money, saw credit card receipts and knew those purchases weren't on them--this is another very strange event to me.

EXCELLENT observation!

[summer4meplz]

This is so ridiculous. The Anthonys are not being persecuted for their faith! They are being watched and discussed because they do outrageous things in order to cover up what their daughter did to their granddaughter!

As far as being forgiven, yes I'm sure they could be. If they asked for forgiveness, they would be forgiven. But if that happened, we would see a complete change in their behaviour. You can't just ask for forgiveness and then go on acting the way they're acting. God does understand what they're going through, but I doubt He approves of how they handle things.


Hi Annie...great post....ita......but as for forgiveness......you have to ask for forgiveness which, to me, means confessing to a sin that needs to be forgiven.......I can't see any of them confessing to anything.....imo

[breezie]

Congrats, spirit! :wub:

Yes, Congrats Spirit! :loveeyes: I bet she's adorable!

[grammaw]

Of course you can be forgiven , you just have to really mean it , it has to come from the heart when you ask forgiveness , the one granting it will know if its pure or not.


Just what IS Brads behavior , why do you say he is a horrible person ?

I have heard all there is to hear about how horrible the Anthony's are , sorry I don't buy it .

I did not KNOW them before this life changing ,altering event that has obviously made an impact on them to such a degree that they can not be held accountable for their personality flaws, short comings, their eyebrow shapes that have offended many , the look on thier faces ( expressions) the way they hold their shoulders , their weight loss or gain , the clothes they wear , the CATCH 22 they have been out into ....so much more ....


The FACT that I could never imagine being in their shoes , the FACT that I have tried to place myself in their shoes and just have to STOP because its too painful to contemplate SHOWS me that to actually have to LIVE in their , walk their mile would be too much to bare , not just ONE tragedy fell upon them , not too , but too many to list and to be persecuted AFTER ALL OF THAT , on TOP of it ...

It tells me that Cindy does have great faith and she can be persecuted day and night and will not lose her faith because GOD is carrying her through this ...............so see she does have another advocate because she could not have come this far without that FAITH ...

Whatever happens our maker knows what she has endured ,what that family has endured and truly God has walked with her and forgiven her all her transgressions , right or wrong , HE understands .

You're absolutely right,you can be forgiven,but when people on this board have seen the Anthony's lies,and more lies,even they can't forgive them.You have your opinion,we have ours,and if I believe my Bible(which I do),there you have it!

[Sandy001]

This is so ridiculous. The Anthonys are not being persecuted for their faith! They are being watched and discussed because they do outrageous things in order to cover up what their daughter did to their granddaughter!

As far as being forgiven, yes I'm sure they could be. If they asked for forgiveness, they would be forgiven. But if that happened, we would see a complete change in their behaviour. You can't just ask for forgiveness and then go on acting the way they're acting. God does understand what they're going through, but I doubt He approves of how they handle things.

Is there a Christian "faith" that accepts "bearing false witness against their neighbors"? Cindy is so adept at "bearing false witness." Let alone her constant violation of the "Golden Rule." Her faith is not in any known religion that I have ever read about. Maybe it's the "Gospel according to Cindy."?