Wednesday, June 3, 2009 #1

[saywhat04]

Bolding is mine. I have no idea what this sentence is trying to say.

imo

:lol: That Michelle Bart is quite the writer, isn't she? :laugh:

[Sun]

Wow! Maybe I was wrong in my thinking that Casey was alot like her mother. She's got a lot of ole George in her too!!:unsure:

IMO, Casey appears to have lots of George's traits, and Lee appears to be a bit like Cindy.

[ish]

I think George gladly traded those huevos for a Laz-Z-Boy.

GM Lavinia, you said it. She works all day and he putters around the backyard, and cleans the cars, gets the periodic evening job to get away from her at night and maintain his unemployment eligiblity. What a life!! I guess Casey thought she was entitled to the same luxury.

[Sun]

Originally Posted by desmom
Didn't the audio interview with the neighbors (the married couple) say Cindy had a boyfriend? What the heck are their names? TIA

IIRC, Channel 13 had these audio interviews ...can't remember the names though. It was neighbors that knew of Keo or Tio, wasn't it?

[saywhat04]

I don't think Cindy is going to appreciate having her family labelled as dysfunctional, even if it is to save Casey's life. If I were AL I wouldn't count on Cindy cooperating on the stand even if she was coached before hand. Cindy, I think lets the attorney think he has her under control and ready to take the stand but once she is up there she says and acts the way she wants. I will never believe BC didn't spend countless hours with Cindy prepping her for the depo only to have her go off the rails once questioning started.

... thus what appears to be the growing distance between BC and the A's.

[Ckrdpast]

IIRC, Channel 13 had these audio interviews ...can't remember the names though. It was neighbors that knew of Keo or Tio, wasn't it?

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

[Dick Tracy]

according to Cindy early on, she gave Casey the $ for the "nanny", yet according to Casey the nanny was loooooaaaadddddeddddd***
and Casey didn't need to bring things for Caylee. I'm thinking this was one magical Nanny, he77 even Mary Poppins got paid. The no proof o' payment to the nanny will sink Casey's ship.



*** = my Ron White impression, thank you very much I'll be in the Airport Holiday Inn lido lounge all week


Ron White!!!!! Love it.

Interesting.... The no proof of payment to the Nanny. I actually never thought of that.

The only one that could testify to that is Casey. Or the Nanny.

[Unleashed]

I think George gladly traded those huevos for a Laz-Z-Boy.

Morning, Lavinia :seeya:

Somebody has been busy on Casey's myspace page. Have you had a chance to read it yet? :tonguewag:

IMO

[101Spots]

IIRC, Channel 13 had these audio interviews ...can't remember the names though. It was neighbors that knew of Keo or Tio, wasn't it?

Mr. and Mrs. Dickens, I believe. An appropriate moniker, eh? Wonder how many little Dickens they have/had? :biggrin:

[EverMoth]

Don't forget that this phantom friend had to then sneak back in the towyard and take Caylee's body back out of the trunk of Casey's car.:rolleyes:

OMG - so outrageous. Truly, they cannot possibly try to implicate anyone else in this. I don't think AL would allow it anyway since she wants to get the DP removed. I doubt if she would be interested in the trial becoming a circus of absurdities. She will draw her own conclusions once she is familiar with the case. IMO, based on that conclusion, she will not allow the case to be presented on such an absurd premice. I think she will either go for a plea deal or begin putting the heave ho on the family skeletons. jmo

[saywhat04]

I don't care if they knew or they didn't know. I don't care if this Lois woman is nuts or not (although it does seem like she is a crackpot)....Who made the rule that crackpots can't erect a cross? Seems to me that a wooden cross is better in the long run than a memorial that decomposes from the elements. A cross with Caylee's name on it seems to be a pretty dignified symbol even if it was constructed by a nut.

My point is that Cindy and George (and their hot mess friends from KidFinders aka LookingtomakeabuckFinders) have no right to take the law into their own hands. This is not Death Wish and they are not Charles Bronson. Someone could have been hurt in this stupid high speed antic. What if an older person had to take their dog out that night and was crossing the street at the exact time the cars were racing through? What if a teenager was crossing the street to come home that night. Christ on a crutch...we have speeding laws for a reason, especially in residential zones.

It makes me so mad that Cindy and George have been allowed to get away with anything and everything that they have done. They now believe that they can continue to do so. And if they get caught, just lie and lie some more. Oh, and their attorney will lie for them as well. They need to get legally knocked down a peg or two so they will stop some of this foolishness. If not, they will continue to act out like a pair of children and someone is going to get hurt. If it takes a nutcase like Lois to snap photos or videos that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are out doing "wrong" things..............so be it.

I'm coming to the conclusion that George and Cindy are comfortable with the "any attention is good attention" syndrome.

Whew, okay.......I'm done. My own opinion of course. Thanks for listening.. Be well.

I completely agree with this post. Thank you for sharing your opinion. I've had exactly those thoughts since this latest news broke yesterday. :thumbup:

[Sun]

Don't forget that this phantom friend had to then sneak back in the towyard and take Caylee's body back out of the trunk of Casey's car.:rolleyes:

Seems to me that Cindy has "sneaking into the towyard" on her mind. Wonder why that was? That notice of the certified letter, which was left for the Anthonys on July 11th, did have the tow company name on it, according to what George stated in an interview.

[ish]

Anyone can plead the fifth. Remember Fuhrman and F. Lee Bailey? Fuhrman certainly wasn't being accused of murdering Nichole and Ron Brown, but he took the fifth when asked if he had ever uttered the infamous "n-word" ?

On the advice of his attorney.

I thought he took the the fifth to avoid incriminating himself in terms of perjury, hadn't he previously testified under oath that he never used that word?

[msgatorslayer]

Seems to me that Cindy has "sneaking into the towyard" on her mind. Wonder why that was? That notice of the certified letter, which was left for the Anthonys on July 11th, did have the tow company name on it, according to what George stated in an interview.

Hmmm, you got me thinking now.

I've always thought it was odd that they didn't find that letter for a couple of days. I'm a garage person like they are but I notice things around the front door as I'm pulling into my driveway. Solicitation papers stuck in the screen door handle, new phone books laying in front of the door, etc.

I wouldn't put it past them to have tried to sneak onto the property themselves. Thinking they were smart enough to jack the car back w/o having to pay. A few more days of not being able to get ahold of Casey and getting the answers they want, they end up having to go and pay for the car.

[Sun]

[snip]
also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

This is a must see!!! ROTFLMAO

[Steps]

OMG - so outrageous. Truly, they cannot possibly try to implicate anyone else in this. I don't think AL would allow it anyway since she wants to get the DP removed. I doubt if she would be interested in the trial becoming a circus of absurdities. She will draw her own conclusions once she is familiar with the case. IMO, based on that conclusion, she will not allow the case to be presented on such an absurd premice. I think she will either go for a plea deal or begin putting the heave ho on the family skeletons. jmo

I agree, EverMoth! AL will put a stop to the nonsense that the defense has been putting out for almost a year now. She has a reputation that she won't want tarnished by the likes of Casey's "the Nanny did it", or Cindy's "let's blame Jesse". She will not want to look foolish in the courtroom. I have a feeling that she and Cindy will not get along, if the sparks haven't already been flying!!

[saywhat04]

IIRC George and Cindy were seperated for six months when Caylee was only 4 months old. I believe that is why Cindy continued to pretend she believed KC was working to keep George happy. How could she berate her husband for gambling online with "their" money when she was supporting her adult daughter and granddaughter, and her daughter was stealing from them both.

I think the whole money thing is perhaps what has this couple running most scared about having their secrets revealed. I sense neither George nor Cindy know the extent of the other's financial shenanigans inside that house.

We have a better idea of what George was up to than Cindy, but I suspect Cindy was spending money left, right and center, all the while berating George and likely, Casey, for doing the same while not contributing to the household. That house didn't get full to the brim with STUFF by accident. Someone likes to SHOP, and I think I know who.

[saywhat04]

Wow! Maybe I was wrong in my thinking that Casey was alot like her mother. She's got a lot of ole George in her too!!:unsure:

She got the *best* of both of them, all rolled into one rapidly expanding, odious package. :rolleyes:

[Pruddennce]

Ron White!!!!! Love it.

Interesting.... The no proof of payment to the Nanny. I actually never thought of that.

The only one that could testify to that is Casey. Or the Nanny.

I LOVE HER. I PAY HER ALOT OF MONEY <-----Casey text message to Iassen.....

starting at page 3

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5803027/Casey-Anthony-Instant-messages-with-Iassen-Donov

she pays her alot more than a nanny usually gets paid....she and her co-worker are the nanny's MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME....(from casey's major source of income, STEALING?) lol

rightttttttttt......and worth mentioning, with this friend, Z Nanny is someone she has known for SIX YEARS.......

the story continues to evolve everytime Casey is asked a question about her 'nanny'.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[joolz]

My bold

People thought that about Karla Homolka, too. Turned out people were wrong. I want her needled up, or at mimimum LWOP.

JMO


That reminded me of Homolka, too. She is out, free as a bird, with a baby now. Makes me sick.:angry:

I wonder if Homolka's parents have anything to do with her? OT, sorry.

[Dick Tracy]

I thought he took the the fifth to avoid incriminating himself in terms of perjury, hadn't he previously testified under oath that he never used that word?

That's been so long ago, 15 years or so. I believe they had a woman who had interviewed Fuhrman or worked with him doing some kind of journalistic essay, or movie, or something. She was said on tape that Fuhrman had used "that" word. It was one of the most dramatic moments of the trial, other than Marcia Clarks new "do".

I don't recall the details. It's called CRS.

[joolz]

Don't forget that this phantom friend had to then sneak back in the towyard and take Caylee's body back out of the trunk of Casey's car.:rolleyes:

Does Phantom Friend happen to have a motive? Just curious!:laugh:

[AMS]

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

Thaks for linking Blink's post. That was funny.:biggrin:

imo

[margaritaville]

She got the *best* of both of them, all rolled into one rapidly expanding, odious package. :rolleyes:

Rapidly expanding.....No kidding!
I was shocked to see Casey had plumped up so much even just from her last hearing!!
I think all that Cindy lost, Casey gained......
Whew....
Cindy is going to have to watch her tongue when it comes to slamming fat, lazy bloggers........

MOO

[seeing_eye]

Wow! Maybe I was wrong in my thinking that Casey was alot like her mother. She's got a lot of ole George in her too!!:unsure:

I think Casey almost seems like a female clone of George - in both looks and actions.

[EverMoth]

DT,

Maybe it's not the first time that Cindy went after Casey physically. I don't recall them touching basis on this.
Was this a rumor or is this on paper.
JMO

Maybe Casey has also gone after Cindy physically. These two peas-in-a-pod are, at once, so disgusted and enamored of seeing themselves mirrored in another it is like watching one body tear itself apart limb by limb. I sense a mutual abusive relationship between the two of them.

I wish we knew more about how Casey acted out as a child, whether she showed signs of serious deviance at an early age. If so, I'm sure that will come out at the trial if AL goes the bad parenting route. IMO

[saywhat04]

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

Oh! That Blink blog is a beauty! lol! :laugh:

[saywhat04]

Hmmm, you got me thinking now.

I've always thought it was odd that they didn't find that letter for a couple of days. I'm a garage person like they are but I notice things around the front door as I'm pulling into my driveway. Solicitation papers stuck in the screen door handle, new phone books laying in front of the door, etc.

I wouldn't put it past them to have tried to sneak onto the property themselves. Thinking they were smart enough to jack the car back w/o having to pay. A few more days of not being able to get ahold of Casey and getting the answers they want, they end up having to go and pay for the car.

Bolding mine ...

... and I woulda called you NUTS. Before yesterday. :glare:

[EverMoth]

Does Phantom Friend happen to have a motive? Just curious!:laugh:

Oh, you know - phantom friend was watching Caylee at the Ant home and left her at the pool area while going inside to get another beer out of the fridge. Phantom friend gets a text and sits down with the beer to reply. Later, phantom friend finds Caylee dead in the pool and the rest is history. All of the secret spying with body bag in tow while waiting for the perfect opportunity to put the body in Casey's trunk and then take it out again and. . .lol - can't even put it in a story form so it makes sense. The whole thing is absurd!

[Pruddennce]

Maybe it's not the first time that Cindy went after Casey physically. I don't recall them touching basis on this.
Was this a rumor or is this on paper.
JMO

respectfully snipped.....

Dianna,

they played a portion of Jesse's interview with LE on NG (the transcript is available on the web, but here is that specific passage):

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/07/ng.01.html

JESSE GRUND, CASEY`S FORMER LOVER: Lee, shortly after my second interview with Orange County, confided in me that the reason that he thought -- Cindy confided in him that the reason he thought she felt that Casey ran off was there was a big fight between the two of them, and the fight concerned Casey not being home a lot and not bringing Caylee by. It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical, and Cindy started choking Casey.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was there anyone else in the house when this happened?

GRUND: He didn`t actually expand upon that. As far as I understood from what he told me, it was just Cindy and Casey.

LE spoke with Richard Grund: he relayed the same thing to LE about what Lee told Jesse about the fight:

page 45
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/01.pdf

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Lapis]

Seems to me that Cindy has "sneaking into the towyard" on her mind. Wonder why that was? That notice of the certified letter, which was left for the Anthonys on July 11th, did have the tow company name on it, according to what George stated in an interview.

I am looking at one of those notifications right now. There is a place for the post man to put the sender's name. I receive them quite often and sometimes you may not recognize the sender. Sometimes the postman only puts the return zip code (as if that helps).

[desmom]

:lol: Like Cindy has the right to remain silent...but not the ability? Ba dam dum. (rim shot)

:lol: :beer:

[5boxersmom]

Oh! That Blink blog is a beauty! lol! :laugh:

:lol: That was good.

[saywhat04]

Rapidly expanding.....No kidding!
I was shocked to see Casey had plumped up so much even just from her last hearing!!
I think all that Cindy lost, Casey gained......
Whew....
Cindy is going to have to watch her tongue when it comes to slamming fat, lazy bloggers........

MOO

Cindy's looking healthier these days. I predict she'll give her offspring a run for the chubby money within the next few months.

[desmom]

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

Thank you. :wub:

[Lapis]

Hmmm, you got me thinking now.

I've always thought it was odd that they didn't find that letter for a couple of days. I'm a garage person like they are but I notice things around the front door as I'm pulling into my driveway. Solicitation papers stuck in the screen door handle, new phone books laying in front of the door, etc.

I wouldn't put it past them to have tried to sneak onto the property themselves. Thinking they were smart enough to jack the car back w/o having to pay. A few more days of not being able to get ahold of Casey and getting the answers they want, they end up having to go and pay for the car.

The notifications are a 3x5 piece of paper in a pinkish orangish hue. My regular postman usually puts them in the mailbox, but the substitute postman sticks them in the door. I have gone for days without seeing it as I do not regularly use my front door. The way he/she does it you can only see from the inside and where my door is located it is not readily apparent. If he/she doesn't push it in far enough they can fall. I have found them in my bushes and even under the snow. Given my history with these notices I have never disbelieved or found anything sinister in their explaination. JMO

[saywhat04]

Maybe Casey has also gone after Cindy physically. These two peas-in-a-pod are, at once, so disgusted and enamored of seeing themselves mirrored in another it is like watching one body tear itself apart limb by limb. I sense a mutual abusive relationship between the two of them.

I wish we knew more about how Casey acted out as a child, whether she showed signs of serious deviance at an early age. If so, I'm sure that will come out at the trial if AL goes the bad parenting route. IMO

I've always suspected there was plenty of acting out, from a very young age. And the reason I suspect it is because *covering for Casey* was clearly an automatic, ingrained response in the A's, based on how the machine cranked into gear from the moment they realized Caylee was gone. That sort of unnatural, yet automatic coping response doesn't develop overnight.

It's also natural with Lee, which tells me he learned early on what the deal was -- the Hand Family covers for the odious one, no matter what.

Edited to add: The whole thing is sold as the high-minded ideal of "family loyalty."

[AMS]

EBay Seller Offers Yearbook With Anthony Photos

Colonial High Yearbook On Sale For $179.99

http://www.wesh.com/news/19645818/detail.html

imo

[EverMoth]

[QUOTE=saywhat04;13165441] That sort of unnatural, yet automatic coping response doesn't develop overnight.

QUOTE]

Ahhhhh. A free round of ugly coping for all. :beer:

[saywhat04]

EBay Seller Offers Yearbook With Anthony Photos

Colonial High Yearbook On Sale For $179.99

http://www.wesh.com/news/19645818/detail.html

imo

As if anyone needs to see another picture of Casey? Or own one, fgs? :thumbdown:

On the other hand, it'll tick the gals off (C and C), which could be a good show. :laugh:

[Sandy001]

ITA with you,.....however, you know Lois and her gang planned this out. It has been on everyone's mind about who is taking stuff down at the Caylee memorial site. And no one has any answers. Many ppl are angered that stuff is being taken away from the site.

** if someone has a link to any concrete proof that they know 100% sure who is taking the stuff away from the Caylee memorial site, plz post it **

There is bad blood between Lois and Cindy, and I woulnd't put it past the Lois gang to do this. I am surprised it took them this long to come up with their plan :sneaky:

and yes, I do say PLAN. I feel Lois and her gang totally planned this out, but if you're gonna pull a stunt like this, put your big girl panties on and leave a cross at the A's house

In the defence of Lois, yeah, ok, maybe in her heart she really did WANT to know who is taking stuff down from the memorial, but OTOH ( and the dirty hand at that) I'll bet they were saying that they KNEW it was Cindy and her gang taking the stuff down and hey!! let's catch them!!...........sad

JMO :ois has a gang? By definition a gang does illegal activities. I would think that Cindy and Milstead are more of a gang than Lois is. Lois has supporters. To even CLAIM they are a gang brings up thoughts of tattoos and gang-banging.

[saywhat04]

Ahhhhh. A free round of ugly coping for all. :beer:

Ooooh! Didn't even think of that!! ROFL! Now THERE's the definition of Ugly Coping -- the way the A's *coped* with their odious creature's escalating bad behavior. Good one! :thumbup:

[Dells]

I think the whole money thing is perhaps what has this couple running most scared about having their secrets revealed. I sense neither George nor Cindy know the extent of the other's financial shenanigans inside that house.

We have a better idea of what George was up to than Cindy, but I suspect Cindy was spending money left, right and center, all the while berating George and likely, Casey, for doing the same while not contributing to the household. That house didn't get full to the brim with STUFF by accident. Someone likes to SHOP, and I think I know who.

So true! But at least Cindy was the one (the only one) earning money in that household so that somewhat gives her the right to spend it, no matter how foolishly she chose to do so.

[Sandy001]

I agree! IIRC, Dakota spent some time in the hospital over all of this stuff .... late last summer I think.

This is definitely not a good situation for Dakota. jmo Dakota wrote to the Anthony family to express sympathy and was used mercilessly by Cindy, who, once again has screweed up a young life.

This is just another manipulation by Cindy who cares for NO ONE (including Caylee) but HERSELF. To blame Lois for Dakota's break down is ludicrous.

[desmom]

I LOVE HER. I PAY HER ALOT OF MONEY <-----Casey text message to Iassen.....

starting at page 3

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5803027/Casey-Anthony-Instant-messages-with-Iassen-Donov

she pays her alot more than a nanny usually gets paid....she and her co-worker are the nanny's MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME....(from casey's major source of income, STEALING?) lol

rightttttttttt......and worth mentioning, with this friend, Z Nanny is someone she has known for SIX YEARS.......

the story continues to evolve everytime Casey is asked a question about her 'nanny'.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Oh and Maria Kissh, girlfriend to Clint - Tone's roommate, told LE: page 7 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Kissh%20%20Maria-0717.pdf

She said she had a nanny and she was very adamant about pointing out the fact that she paid her nanny four hundred bucks a week to take care of Caylee. She said the nanny was a friend.

[Pruddennce]

I am looking at one of those notifications right now. There is a place for the post man to put the sender's name. I receive them quite often and sometimes you may not recognize the sender. Sometimes the postman only puts the return zip code (as if that helps).

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3226541/GeorgeAnthonyjuly24

page 36

George was asked if he called Amscot...he said yes. That information was on the letter they received, where the car was towed from.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[Ckrdpast]

Dakota wrote to the Anthony family to express sympathy and was used mercilessly by Cindy, who, once again has screweed up a young life.

This is just another manipulation by Cindy who cares for NO ONE (including Caylee) but HERSELF. To blame Lois for Dakota's break down is ludicrous.


my bold
sorry Sandy, with all due respect, i must disagree with you on that---Lois is Dakota's custodian....Lois had to approve and allow contact between Cindy and Dakota-it all boils down to Lois, IMO.

i also think Cindy and Lois USED each other for certain reasons...

[kanzz]

So true! But at least Cindy was the one (the only one) earning money in that household so that somewhat gives her the right to spend it, no matter how foolishly she chose to do so.

not defending Cindy, but ITA. And she probably fell into that old trap - well, he/she wasted my money on this or that, so I deserve to get myself whatever I want. I call it retaliatory spending.

[SandyO]

GM Lavinia, you said it. She works all day and he putters around the backyard, and cleans the cars, gets the periodic evening job to get away from her at night and maintain his unemployment eligiblity. What a life!! I guess Casey thought she was entitled to the same luxury.

And when he was separated from Cindy where did he go? To live with his mama and papa, that's where. A man his age! It's obvious George just can't make it by himself, he really NEEDS others to survive, and that's why he'll do or say whatever Cindy instructs him to do.

[bchand]

As if anyone needs to see another picture of Casey? Or own one, fgs? :thumbdown:

On the other hand, it'll tick the gals off (C and C), which could be a good show. :laugh:

Hey for all we know it could be CINDY selling it :)

[joolz]

my bold
sorry Sandy, with all due respect, i must disagree with you on that---Lois is Dakota's custodian....Lois had to approve and allow contact between Cindy and Dakota-it all boils down to Lois, IMO.

i also think Cindy and Lois USED each other for certain reasons...

ITA ckrdpast. Lois may not be as bad as Cindy (who is the gold standard in bad behavior), but she's a nutcake nevertheless. And allowing that child any exposure to the Anthonys qualifies her as lacking in any kind of judgment and a lousy custodian who probably has a history of being a lousy custodian. JMO

[Sun]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun
Seems to me that Cindy has "sneaking into the towyard" on her mind. Wonder why that was? That notice of the certified letter, which was left for the Anthonys on July 11th, did have the tow company name on it, according to what George stated in an interview.

I am looking at one of those notifications right now. There is a place for the post man to put the sender's name. I receive them quite often and sometimes you may not recognize the sender. Sometimes the postman only puts the return zip code (as if that helps).

Yes, I remember some folks saying that about postal notices. I was curious to know whether the notice that the Anthonys received had identified Johnsons Towyard, and a couple months ago I spent a bit of time re-listening to old interviews looking specifically for this. In one of them George actually said that "Johnsons" was written on the notice.

[saywhat04]

So true! But at least Cindy was the one (the only one) earning money in that household so that somewhat gives her the right to spend it, no matter how foolishly she chose to do so.

I agree. But I imagine, based on the financial difficulty they were in (once upon a time :sneaky:) there were family pow-wows in which all 3 (G, CinA and the OC) made commitments to each other to curb their individual bad habits with regard to money. And then, of course, all 3 went off and did exactly as they pleased, trying to keep their behavior hidden from one another.

[saywhat04]

Hey for all we know it could be CINDY selling it :)

Good point. :sneaky:

Or someone connected to Baez, but in the shadows, of course.

[Explorer]

Does anyone think someone will bid on that yearbook?

[Dick Tracy]

DT,
A lot of things can be said in anger if you are as twisted as Casey and Cindy are.
I wonder how many times Casey blurted out that she wished Caylee was never born and that she destroyed any relationship that she and mom had what was left of it. Casey never wanted Caylee from inception.
She was very jealous of the relationship Cindy had with Caylee.
If my daughter was that jealous and we had a major (huge) fight like they did the night of, I would not have allowed her to take Caylee with her when she left that night. I just don't understand how they could have had such a big fight to the point where Cindy lunged at Casey and tried to "choke" her. That was very violent. With that Casey would not have walked out the door with my grand daughter.
I would have called the police to try and keep Caylee there.
In addition, I have to wonder what Casey said to Cindy that would make her so enraged to want to choke her. There is so much that has not been said. We will never find out unless they decide on the dysfunctional parent (s) scenario. That would be something that should be brought up to show good cause for how terrible it was to be around that environment for years.
Maybe it's not the first time that Cindy went after Casey physically. I don't recall them touching basis on this.
Was this a rumor or is this on paper.
JMO

It probably went something like this -

Cindy: What the hell did you steal from my mother and father for? Don't you know it's wrong to steal?

Casey: Shutup. F You. I needed the money. They don't. They're almost in the ground anyways.

Cindy: Don't talk to me that way. You're a lousy mother, I'm taking care of the kid, paying the bills. And you show no gratitude at all.

Casey: F. You. You worried about helping me with Caylee? Fine. I'm leaving with her, and you'll never see her again.

Then the fight began, and the Cindy choke hold. You really have to hate someone to want to put your hands around their neck and squeeze, know what I'm sayin?

Or something to that effect. All I know, is what a bad fight. I wonder who broke it up.

IMO, If I were Cindy? I'd been mad as hell also that my kid was stealing from my mother and father. But I would have approached it a little differently.

[ladeebug565]

DT,
A lot of things can be said in anger if you are as twisted as Casey and Cindy are.
I wonder how many times Casey blurted out that she wished Caylee was never born and that she destroyed any relationship that she and mom had what was left of it. Casey never wanted Caylee from inception.
She was very jealous of the relationship Cindy had with Caylee.
If my daughter was that jealous and we had a major (huge) fight like they did the night of, I would not have allowed her to take Caylee with her when she left that night. I just don't understand how they could have had such a big fight to the point where Cindy lunged at Casey and tried to "choke" her. That was very violent. With that Casey would not have walked out the door with my grand daughter.
I would have called the police to try and keep Caylee there.
In addition, I have to wonder what Casey said to Cindy that would make her so enraged to want to choke her. There is so much that has not been said. We will never find out unless they decide on the dysfunctional parent (s) scenario. That would be something that should be brought up to show good cause for how terrible it was to be around that environment for years.
Maybe it's not the first time that Cindy went after Casey physically. I don't recall them touching basis on this.
Was this a rumor or is this on paper.
JMO

My bold. Six simple words could've changed the course of history in this case: "Not in my car you don't!"

[Dick Tracy]

Oh and Maria Kissh, girlfriend to Clint - Tone's roommate, told LE: page 7 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Kissh%20%20Maria-0717.pdf

She said she had a nanny and she was very adamant about pointing out the fact that she paid her nanny four hundred bucks a week to take care of Caylee. She said the nanny was a friend.

very adamant.. See? She went to all lengths to tell the most fantastic lies.

[desmom]

Does anyone think someone will bid on that yearbook?

Here is the year book for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/2003-COLONIAL-HIGH-SCHOOL-YEARBOOK-CASEY-ANTHONY-FL_W0QQitemZ110390722469QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonf iction_Book?hash=item19b3ccbfa5&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

The description says Casey is also pictured in the Travel & Tourism Club.

[Explorer]

Here is the year book for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/2003-COLONIAL-HIGH-SCHOOL-YEARBOOK-CASEY-ANTHONY-FL_W0QQitemZ110390722469QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonf iction_Book?hash=item19b3ccbfa5&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

The description says Casey is also pictured in the Travel & Tourism Club.

So far no bids:biggrin:

[saywhat04]

My bold. Six simple words could've changed the course of history in this case: "Not in my car you don't!"

Amen! :smile:

[Explorer]

Here is the year book for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/2003-COLONIAL-HIGH-SCHOOL-YEARBOOK-CASEY-ANTHONY-FL_W0QQitemZ110390722469QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonf iction_Book?hash=item19b3ccbfa5&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

The description says Casey is also pictured in the Travel & Tourism Club.

It looks like her travelling days are over. :rolleyes:

Yup:thumbsup:

[Sandy001]

There are multiple examples of gracious ways for people who have lost children to behave regarding spontaneous memorials. Sandra Cantu's family comes to mind - they politely took down the memorial andmade arrangements to donate the toys to charity, then requested that no more things be left. They also did NOT THROW AWAY anything from the memorial. Of course, they went with well known missing children organizations who offered spokespeople to help them. Why does Cindy persist in her delusion that she knows BETTER than anyone else? Why does she start a "charity" which is NOT YET a charity, to collect money and donate the same money to real charity. If I wanted to donate to any of those places, I would give money directly and not throw a Foundation which will take a cut off the top

[crimeq]

this reeks of the low-life Milsteads. The Anthonys couldn't have found worse *role models* if they tried. Like begets like. Now that they are living in their house, I expect to see/hear more of this kind of thing.

So are the Anthonys the only friends the Milsteads have?

Anthonys and Milsteads seem quite bereft of "other people."

[KittyMom]

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

I needed that laugh! :laugh:

[Sandy001]

I have to ask our legal experts here something about the motion that Baez filed. Isn't the opinion of two correctional officers unrelated to this case. Shouldn't Casey's treatment in jail be addressed through jailhosue grievances. Whether she was treated "cruely" or not (and the term was first used by LKB and JB, NOT the officers) has nothing to do with the legal grounds in this case. AS I see it, the only LEGAL questions are HIPPA and atty/client privilege.

As for Baez being held from his client for a SIGNIFICANT time, given jail procedures for visitors, I don't think 30 minutes even begins to qualify as signifcant. Checkin at LA County jail can be as long as 3 hours.

[Unleashed]

So are the Anthonys the only friends the Milsteads have?

Anthonys and Milsteads seem quite bereft of "other people."

Don't be silly, crimeq. They have THOUSANDS of supporters, I'm sure they consider them friends. :rolleyes:

IMO

[Unleashed]

why gee, what is Cindy worried about that she'd be compelled to invoke the Fifth Amendment????? [insert sarcastic face here]

Only if she is stricken by a sudden, unfamiliar, bolt of integrity that compels her to think about TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!

imo

[Sun]

I have to ask our legal experts here something about the motion that Baez filed. Isn't the opinion of two correctional officers unrelated to this case. Shouldn't Casey's treatment in jail be addressed through jailhosue grievances. Whether she was treated "cruely" or not (and the term was first used by LKB and JB, NOT the officers) has nothing to do with the legal grounds in this case. AS I see it, the only LEGAL questions are HIPPA and atty/client privilege.

As for Baez being held from his client for a SIGNIFICANT time, given jail procedures for visitors, I don't think 30 minutes even begins to qualify as signifcant. Checkin at LA County jail can be as long as 3 hours.

Baez gave an interview to the media the evening of Dec 11th, and he came right out and told the whole wide world that Casey received a sedative. Hard to believe that he's going to win getting the jail video withheld on a HIPPA issue.

LOL Seems to me that the Jail has been treating Baez way too nice, if he believes that he had to wait a "significant time" before being allowed to see Casey on Dec 11th. Perhaps the Jail may take steps to correct this. LOL

[TunaMelt]

Only if she is stricken by a sudden, unfamiliar, bolt of integrity that compels her to think about TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!

imo

:ohmy:

She'd break out in hives, all over.

:w00t:

[kanzz]

I have to ask our legal experts here something about the motion that Baez filed. Isn't the opinion of two correctional officers unrelated to this case. Shouldn't Casey's treatment in jail be addressed through jailhosue grievances. Whether she was treated "cruely" or not (and the term was first used by LKB and JB, NOT the officers) has nothing to do with the legal grounds in this case. AS I see it, the only LEGAL questions are HIPPA and atty/client privilege.

As for Baez being held from his client for a SIGNIFICANT time, given jail procedures for visitors, I don't think 30 minutes even begins to qualify as signifcant. Checkin at LA County jail can be as long as 3 hours.


Until one of them can answer for you - check out Katprint's posts here:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=353420&page=2

[Sandy001]

Only if she is stricken by a sudden, unfamiliar, bolt of integrity that compels her to think about TELLING THE TRUTH!!!!

imoWould lightning strike her:scared:

[KP1935]

Baez gave an interview to the media the evening of Dec 11th, and he came right out and told the whole wide world that Casey received a sedative. Hard to believe that he's going to win getting the jail video withheld on a HIPPA issue.

LOL Seems to me that the Jail has been treating Baez way too nice, if he believes that he had to wait a "significant time" before being allowed to see Casey on Dec 11th. Perhaps the Jail may take steps to correct this. LOL

My bolding.

Way too nice! You are SO correct. How many times have correctional officers told him to keep his hands off his client (no hugging, no touching, etc). This guy has received ample special treatment.

I found it odd that he would run out right away and announce that she had received a sedative. Did she ask for it or was it involunartily administered? I believe she asked for it. How did JB find out, did she tell him? Wouldn't he be breaking attorney/client privilege by releasing that info?

[Unleashed]

:ohmy:

She'd break out in hives, all over.

:w00t:

She'd get over the idea real quick. The body quickly rejects foreign impulses.

IMO

[5boxersmom]

About the fight the night of June 15th and Lenny saying someone saw Casey talking on the phone at a hotel parking lot. Why has Tony never been ask about this conversation? Or have we just not saw it yet? Did he hear Caylee in the background? Did Casey tell Tony about the fight?

[Sun]

I've had a very hard time getting through the entire Unser and Richardson transcripts, but am finally nearing the end. Seems to me like LKB was fishing to try to find out how media found out about Casey receiving a sedative. LOL

[Sandy001]

Until one of them can answer for you - check out Katprint's posts here:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=353420&page=2 Thank you. A friend of mine is a teacher at a prison and the intercoms there are set up so that you have to press a button to talk. Teachers have defvices on them which they press when they need assistance. A clicking intercom could mean a malfunction - an innocent expanation. Of course, Baez would never admit anything innocent. Given his propensity for lying and NOT abiding by jailhouse rules, I have a strong tendency NOT to believe anything he claims. He's truly an asset to the LYING ANTHONY team.

[nana6]

Good afternoon all/ I have now come to the conclusion that one of the only things that the defense team will have in their favor and may use in the case is Cindy's mental situation and how that played for years on Casey. How Casey was terribly afraid and abused verbally by her. etc etc. I don't know what else they could possibly have that would float. I think it will be a mental defense. I know that many others have said no to this for a very long time here on the board but I am not so sure now. The way Cindy is acting and has all along in my opinion is just helping Caseys mental defense. I guess we will see.

[KittyMom]

My bolding.

Way too nice! You are SO correct. How many times have correctional officers told him to keep his hands off his client (no hugging, no touching, etc). This guy has received ample special treatment.

I found it odd that he would run out right away and announce that she had received a sedative. Did she ask for it or was it involunartily administered? I believe she asked for it. How did JB find out, did she tell him? Wouldn't he be breaking attorney/client privilege by releasing that info?

:ohmy: Did Jose break the HIPAA laws? Ouch! Let's hope the judge brings that to his attention.

[kanzz]

How could Casey claim this assuming they have discovery that Caylee was killed the same night that Casey left the house. All these options have to have happened in the home.
Did she not borrow a shovel the next day from the neighbor?:confused:

I can see her coming up with some type of accident but it is doubtful any jury would believe it with all the twists and Cindy and her huge mouth and everyone else involved.
What could she possibly say. I'm curious.
JMO

Did you see KP's posts on pg 2 of that thread? (see #45 and #47)

[Barbara fl.]

There are multiple examples of gracious ways for people who have lost children to behave regarding spontaneous memorials. Sandra Cantu's family comes to mind - they politely took down the memorial andmade arrangements to donate the toys to charity, then requested that no more things be left. They also did NOT THROW AWAY anything from the memorial. Of course, they went with well known missing children organizations who offered spokespeople to help them. Why does Cindy persist in her delusion that she knows BETTER than anyone else? Why does she start a "charity" which is NOT YET a charity, to collect money and donate the same money to real charity. If I wanted to donate to any of those places, I would give money directly and not throw a Foundation which will take a cut off the top

Your last line says it all.....they want to make money thru this....the Anthony's can think of nothing else but making money off of their deceased granddaughter....it's shameful

[Sandy001]

I've had a very hard time getting through the entire Unser and Richardson transcripts, but am finally nearing the end. Seems to me like LKB was fishing to try to find out how media found out about Casey receiving a sedative. LOL What I find interesting is how the word cruelty was never used until the DEFENSE team said it. Unser specifically didn't use the word until pushed into a corner. Casey apparently didn't feel they were cruel at all.Even more importnat to me is that Casey was fully aware of the discovery BEFORE being taken to medical. I fail to see WHAT would upset her with the TV as they never showed any pictures of the UNIDENTIFIED CHILD - so why would she be so upset. Even George said he and Cindy weren't upset because it wasn't known that it was Caylee.

[kanzz]

Thank you. A friend of mine is a teacher at a prison and the intercoms there are set up so that you have to press a button to talk. Teachers have defvices on them which they press when they need assistance. A clicking intercom could mean a malfunction - an innocent expanation. Of course, Baez would never admit anything innocent. Given his propensity for lying and NOT abiding by jailhouse rules, I have a strong tendency NOT to believe anything he claims. He's truly an asset to the LYING ANTHONY team.

YW. I hope none of his claims are true or can be proven. If they are true - how tragic.

[Sun]

My bolding.

Way too nice! You are SO correct. How many times have correctional officers told him to keep his hands off his client (no hugging, no touching, etc). This guy has received ample special treatment.

I found it odd that he would run out right away and announce that she had received a sedative. Did she ask for it or was it involunartily administered? I believe she asked for it. How did JB find out, did she tell him? Wouldn't he be breaking attorney/client privilege by releasing that info?

I wish I could put my fingers on that link to the interview, as my memory isn't too clear... but I do remember thinking that Dec 11th didn't turn out to be a very good day for Baez.

[Cynthia]

:ohmy: Did Jose break the HIPAA laws? Ouch! Let's hope the judge brings that to his attention.

Baez loves Casey's hippas obviously......:tonguewag:

[bluwaters]

I wish I could put my fingers on that link to the interview, as my memory isn't too clear... but I do remember thinking that Dec 11th didn't turn out to be a very good day for Baez.
No, it wasn't a good day for him at all. Baez had just left a hearing during which he waived Casey's right to a speedy trial when the news of a child's body being discovered hit the air.
Bummer for Baez...

[nana6]

Baez loves Casey's hippas obviously......:tonguewag:

I believe they are becoming hippos

[Lapis]

I have to ask our legal experts here something about the motion that Baez filed. Isn't the opinion of two correctional officers unrelated to this case. Shouldn't Casey's treatment in jail be addressed through jailhosue grievances. Whether she was treated "cruely" or not (and the term was first used by LKB and JB, NOT the officers) has nothing to do with the legal grounds in this case. AS I see it, the only LEGAL questions are HIPPA and atty/client privilege.

As for Baez being held from his client for a SIGNIFICANT time, given jail procedures for visitors, I don't think 30 minutes even begins to qualify as signifcant. Checkin at LA County jail can be as long as 3 hours.

The first question raised is has Casey's rights been violated? The defense has raised this issue on number of fronts.

The bringing of her to the medical facility to prevent her from meeting with her attorney. The issue is evidenced by the testimony of Uncer and Richardson. If the court finds that this in fact was the motivation, then her rights have been violated.

The Supreme Court has ruled that conduct is speech. So the videotaping is in and of itself a violation of her rights. They knew she was represented by counsel so they could not interview her. If they cannot interview her, they cannot videotape her. The issue here is not the cameras in the medical facility, the issue is the saving of the tape when in the past they have only saved those tapes which relate to security issues. This is a violation of her rights.

The videotaping in the medical facility. According to Uncer and Richardson she was told she was to receive medical attention. I understand that she was not receiving medical attention at the time of the videotaping, but she was exhibiting symptoms that required medical attention. Do you think a doctor can reveal your symptoms as long as he does not reveal your treatment or diagnosis? The answer is no. This is a violation of her rights.

If the court finds that her rights have been violated the question then becomes what is the remedy? The court cannot take the attitude of "who cares? Look what she did to Caylee". Remember she is accused not convicted (even conviction does not change the analysis). The court's options are wide ranging. He could just suppress the video or if he feels the violations are bad enough, he can dismiss the charges.

JMO

[nana6]

do we seem to be moving very slowly here?

[martha]

Your last line says it all.....they want to make money thru this....the Anthony's can think of nothing else but making money off of their deceased granddaughter....it's shameful
I am with you on this. It just makes me sick. g and c or just about the money. I guess casey is too. I think of every mother or grandmother that has lost their child for just one second in walmart and how we just get so upset and nearly pass out and then I think about the 31 days no one but casey knew Caylee was missing.That takes the cake.jmho

[breezie]

Remember when we unleashed our keyboards on Congressman Grayson over the Caylee funding bill?

I got an email from him today saying NONE of the funds would go to the family. Nice that I got the email, especially since I don't live in Florida, but wrote him anyway.

[Barbara fl.]

The first question raised is has Casey's rights been violated? The defense has raised this issue on number of fronts.

The bringing of her to the medical facility to prevent her from meeting with her attorney. The issue is evidenced by the testimony of Uncer and Richardson. If the court finds that this in fact was the motivation, then her rights have been violated.

The Supreme Court has ruled that conduct is speech. So the videotaping is in and of itself a violation of her rights. They knew she was represented by counsel so they could not interview her. If they cannot interview her, they cannot videotape her. The issue here is not the cameras in the medical facility, the issue is the saving of the tape when in the past they have only saved those tapes which relate to security issues. This is a violation of her rights.

The videotaping in the medical facility. According to Uncer and Richardson she was told she was to receive medical attention. I understand that she was not receiving medical attention at the time of the videotaping, but she was exhibiting symptoms that required medical attention. Do you think a doctor can reveal your symptoms as long as he does not reveal your treatment or diagnosis? The answer is no. This is a violation of her rights.

If the court finds that her rights have been violated the question then becomes what is the remedy? The court cannot take the attitude of "who cares? Look what she did to Caylee". Remember she is accused not convicted (even conviction does not change the analysis). The court's options are wide ranging. He could just suppress the video or if he feels the violations are bad enough, he can dismiss the charges.

JMO


Hi Lapis,

Thanks for the informative posts....I believe they will suppress the tapes...As for dismissing the case....I don't think sooooo....Casey is going to go on trial....and IMO will be found guilty...even if the state removes 1/2 of the evidence, the other half will convict.....JMO

[kanzz]

do we seem to be moving very slowly here?

Digesting, I think. It's taking some time for the possibility of a dismissal in this case to sink in. Frightening. Just the fact that it's possible, though hopefully not probable.

[Daffodil]

It breaks my heart how the A's treat Caylee. The only way we know how and what they think of Caylee are by thier public displays of "affection". Isn't it odd that I cannot recall one pubic display of affection for Caylee from them, other than George (at times). Their public displays are really rather disturbing. It's as if they want to erase the fact that she ever existed. This just breaks my heart that a 2 year old could be treated this way, in her death to say the least, by her relatives!!!!!!!!! The people who should be her biggest supporters have let her down every chance they get.

And because of that, I can only assume that is somewhat how she was treated in life by them. How could loving, doting grandparents just turn on an innocent murdered grandchild?

[Daffodil]

Hi Lapis,

Thanks for the informative posts....I believe they will suppress the tapes...As for dismissing the case....I don't think sooooo....Casey is going to go on trial....and IMO will be found guilty...even if the state removes 1/2 of the evidence, the other half will convict.....JMO



But, if it was Jose who first publicly said she took a sedative, then is it no longer a ground for violation? Wouldn't the fact that it was already public information have any weight? Would the fact that it is the defense who has now made sure the whole world knows what happened that day now carry any weight?

[Pretty Leaf]

There are multiple examples of gracious ways for people who have lost children to behave regarding spontaneous memorials. Sandra Cantu's family comes to mind - they politely took down the memorial andmade arrangements to donate the toys to charity, then requested that no more things be left. They also did NOT THROW AWAY anything from the memorial. Of course, they went with well known missing children organizations who offered spokespeople to help them. Why does Cindy persist in her delusion that she knows BETTER than anyone else? Why does she start a "charity" which is NOT YET a charity, to collect money and donate the same money to real charity. If I wanted to donate to any of those places, I would give money directly and not throw a Foundation which will take a cut off the top

Remember when Cindy took the cross and threw a hissy fit in the backyard and banged it to pieces?

All this from such a religeous person who has brought thongs of new members to her church.

[kanzz]

We are about to be at the 1 yr. mark and not getting any doc dumps. The only new thing is the clicking of the microphone imagined by Jose everytime he tried to comfort the Princess.

What is the HIPPA?

Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996

In short - it's every patient's right to medical confidentiality.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/index.html

[margaritaville]

my bold
sorry Sandy, with all due respect, i must disagree with you on that---Lois is Dakota's custodian....Lois had to approve and allow contact between Cindy and Dakota-it all boils down to Lois, IMO.

i also think Cindy and Lois USED each other for certain reasons...

Casey has some help in this wreckage too...

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17337744/detail.html

Skii, who believes Caylee is still alive, was hospitalized with a severe stress-related medical issue after hearing that sources recently said DNA results and air sample tests from Casey Anthony’s car suggest that Caylee is likely dead, Skii's grandmother, Lois Peter, told Local 6 News.

[KittyMom]

What I find interesting is how the word cruelty was never used until the DEFENSE team said it. Unser specifically didn't use the word until pushed into a corner. Casey apparently didn't feel they were cruel at all.Even more importnat to me is that Casey was fully aware of the discovery BEFORE being taken to medical. I fail to see WHAT would upset her with the TV as they never showed any pictures of the UNIDENTIFIED CHILD - so why would she be so upset. Even George said he and Cindy weren't upset because it wasn't known that it was Caylee.

I guess that's the catch. Casey was the only one who knew that "close by" meant in the woods off Suburban. She is the only one who knew Caylee was in garbarge bags. She knew exactly what the meter reader had found. And LE knew that she knew.

[Lapis]

But, if it was Jose who first publicly said she took a sedative, then is it no longer a ground for violation? Wouldn't the fact that it was already public information have any weight? Would the fact that it is the defense who has now made sure the whole world knows what happened that day now carry any weight?

The giving of one person permission to reveal certain information does not give permission to all persons to discuss your medical condition. JMO

[kanzz]

But, if it was Jose who first publicly said she took a sedative, then is it no longer a ground for violation? Wouldn't the fact that it was already public information have any weight? Would the fact that it is the defense who has now made sure the whole world knows what happened that day now carry any weight?

Not sure, but I don't really think it's the sedative that is at issue here. I think it's the behavior.

[Anakerie]

why gee, what is Cindy worried about that she'd be compelled to invoke the Fifth Amendment????? [insert sarcastic face here]
I'm sure that both George and Cindy will be classified as "hostile witnesses"... I have to wonder if they're going to act out enough in court to earn a contempt of court slap-down... If they behave in court the way they did in the depositions, I would hope that the judge has enough backbone to set them straight!!!

[Sun]

The first question raised is has Casey's rights been violated? The defense has raised this issue on number of fronts.

The bringing of her to the medical facility to prevent her from meeting with her attorney. The issue is evidenced by the testimony of Uncer and Richardson. If the court finds that this in fact was the motivation, then her rights have been violated.

The Supreme Court has ruled that conduct is speech. So the videotaping is in and of itself a violation of her rights. They knew she was represented by counsel so they could not interview her. If they cannot interview her, they cannot videotape her. The issue here is not the cameras in the medical facility, the issue is the saving of the tape when in the past they have only saved those tapes which relate to security issues. This is a violation of her rights.

The videotaping in the medical facility. According to Uncer and Richardson she was told she was to receive medical attention. I understand that she was not receiving medical attention at the time of the videotaping, but she was exhibiting symptoms that required medical attention. Do you think a doctor can reveal your symptoms as long as he does not reveal your treatment or diagnosis? The answer is no. This is a violation of her rights.

If the court finds that her rights have been violated the question then becomes what is the remedy? The court cannot take the attitude of "who cares? Look what she did to Caylee". Remember she is accused not convicted (even conviction does not change the analysis). The court's options are wide ranging. He could just suppress the video or if he feels the violations are bad enough, he can dismiss the charges.

JMO

Thanks Lapis for your input. It is much appreciated!

[legalmania]

joyce and bailey dickens---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSBGyYFwtTk


also for your viewing pleasure Blink's humorous post on the Lois' Sting operation

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/

I wish Bailey would shut up and let Joyce tell the story. Every time she tries to talk he interrupts. The second story was definetly written "Onion Style."

[KittyMom]

The first question raised is has Casey's rights been violated? The defense has raised this issue on number of fronts.

The bringing of her to the medical facility to prevent her from meeting with her attorney. The issue is evidenced by the testimony of Uncer and Richardson. If the court finds that this in fact was the motivation, then her rights have been violated.

The Supreme Court has ruled that conduct is speech. So the videotaping is in and of itself a violation of her rights. They knew she was represented by counsel so they could not interview her. If they cannot interview her, they cannot videotape her. The issue here is not the cameras in the medical facility, the issue is the saving of the tape when in the past they have only saved those tapes which relate to security issues. This is a violation of her rights.

The videotaping in the medical facility. According to Uncer and Richardson she was told she was to receive medical attention. I understand that she was not receiving medical attention at the time of the videotaping, but she was exhibiting symptoms that required medical attention. Do you think a doctor can reveal your symptoms as long as he does not reveal your treatment or diagnosis? The answer is no. This is a violation of her rights.

If the court finds that her rights have been violated the question then becomes what is the remedy? The court cannot take the attitude of "who cares? Look what she did to Caylee". Remember she is accused not convicted (even conviction does not change the analysis). The court's options are wide ranging. He could just suppress the video or if he feels the violations are bad enough, he can dismiss the charges.

JMO

wow, a sobering post :mellow:

[KittyMom]

The giving of one person permission to reveal certain information does not give permission to all persons to discuss your medical condition. JMO

How would Jose announcing it on tv cameras play into that?

[Daffodil]

The giving of one person permission to reveal certain information does not give permission to all persons to discuss your medical condition. JMO

Lapis,

Thank you for the answer. Although it is not the one that I wanted. I was hoping.

[Lapis]

How would Jose announcing it on tv cameras play into that?

IIRC by the time JB left the jail, Uncer and Richardson had already given statements to LE. According to Richardson, by the time he returned Casey to her cell, he was met by LE. JMO

[Unleashed]

Remember when we unleashed our keyboards on Congressman Grayson over the Caylee funding bill?

I got an email from him today saying NONE of the funds would go to the family. Nice that I got the email, especially since I don't live in Florida, but wrote him anyway.


Once again, IS posters :thumbsup::thumbsup:

jmo

[Sun]

I was curious about the exact times that Baez was in the Jail to see Casey on Dec 11th, and found this old link to Casey's inmate visitors log back in December. Looks like Baez signed in at 11:55 a.m. and out again at 1:33 p.m. then visited Casey again later evening also.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18596659/detail.html

Inmate: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Booking #: 08049710 Permanent ID: P00516248

ADAM GABRIEL E 12/19/2008 20:56:38 12/19/2008 21:49:28 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/19/2008 14:32:09 12/19/2008 15:21:36 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/19/2008 13:59:31 12/19/2008 14:18:50 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/19/2008 11:41:21 12/19/2008 15:21:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/18/2008 19:07:24 12/18/2008 20:22:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/18/2008 06:40:03 12/18/2008 07:35:14 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/17/2008 22:31:18 12/17/2008 23:07:39 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/16/2008 09:35:45 12/16/2008 12:45:45 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/15/2008 18:56:18 12/15/2008 20:30:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/15/2008 07:16:47 12/15/2008 07:42:43 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/14/2008 10:27:50 12/14/2008 11:32:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 20:04:12 12/11/2008 21:05:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/11/2008 16:42:14 12/11/2008 20:23:15 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 11:55:53 12/11/2008 13:33:13 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/10/2008 21:44:09 12/11/2008 04:39:37 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/9/2008 20:45:08 12/9/2008 21:36:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/8/2008 20:47:40 12/8/2008 22:04:26 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/5/2008 15:19:57 12/5/2008 18:37:06 ATTORNEY VISIT

[WhiteShark]

One year ago today......

Text messages between Amy and Casey
Snipped for space..
Casey > Amy 12:13 a.m.: You needed a good distraction from firefighter boy. I’m glad! It’s nice to finally feel wanted to Ric but it’s like I had to move on to get anything out of him. I stand by my decisions and I’m really starting to like Tony. Everything in due time.
.........

Doesn't this one text sound awfully like a certain diary entry? just sayin'

[Sandy001]

The giving of one person permission to reveal certain information does not give permission to all persons to discuss your medical condition. JMO Even when that person specifically releases it to the media, putting the information in the public domain?

[bluwaters]

I cannot imagine the charges against Casey being dismissed over the tape.
I admit, I did not like the sounds of what went on in the jail that day.
LE sometimes oversteps the legal line when trying to gather evidence.
It is a dangerous thing to play with a defendent's rights.

However, the tape itself is really not important, IMO.
Casey's reaction can be interpreted different ways.
She did not confess.
I think her reaction shows consciousness of guilt, but the defense spin could easily be that she was terrified. Her child was missing and then the body of a child was found close to her home. Of course she hyperventilated, blah, blah, blah.
So, I think that the tape is a red herring and that it was a bad idea on the part of LE to "set Casey up."

I hope that the judge suppresses the tape and that's the end of it.
The tape proves nothing and the prosecution does not need it.
It is walking a mine field to consider this tape as evidence against Casey.

If the tape is tossed out, what will the defense start crying about next?

It's time to move on...

jmho

[Lavinia]

Morning, Lavinia <STOLE YOUR SEEYA>

Somebody has been busy on Casey's myspace page. Have you had a chance to read it yet? :tonguewag:

IMO

I have no idea what you're talking about! :confused: :sneaky:

[Tornado]

Doesn't this one text sound awfully like a certain diary entry? just sayin'

ITA- when I read that I thought the exact same thing.

[Sandy001]

I cannot imagine the charges against Casey being dismissed over the tape.
I admit, I did not like the sounds of what went on in the jail that day.
LE sometimes oversteps the legal line when trying to gather evidence.
It is a dangerous thing to play with a defendent's rights.

However, the tape itself is really not important, IMO.
Casey's reaction can be interpreted different ways.
She did not confess.
I think her reaction shows consciousness of guilt, but the defense spin could easily be that she was terrified. Her child was missing and then the body of a child was found close to her home. Of course she hyperventilated, blah, blah, blah.
So, I think that the tape is a red herring and that it was a bad idea on the part of LE to "set Casey up."

I hope that the judge suppresses the tape and that's the end of it.
The tape proves nothing and the prosecution does not need it.
It is walking a mine field to consider this tape as evidence against Casey.

If the tape is tossed out, what will the defense start crying about next?

It's time to move on...

jmho

Most interesting to me is the fact that it's just the media that Bozo is flailing against. The prosecution obviously doesn't care. Which tells me they are not planning on using it in the trial in the first place.

So what DOESN"t Baez want the public to see.

[5boxersmom]

Casey has some help in this wreckage too...

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17337744/detail.html

Skii, who believes Caylee is still alive, was hospitalized with a severe stress-related medical issue after hearing that sources recently said DNA results and air sample tests from Casey Anthony’s car suggest that Caylee is likely dead, Skii's grandmother, Lois Peter, told Local 6 News.

Remember the emails to Dakota from Casey? Could those emails have been sent by Cindy, thnking about Annie saying Cindy sent emails with Casey's name.

hmmm

[kanzz]

Doesn't this one text sound awfully like a certain diary entry? just sayin'

WoW. Sure does. Good catch, WhiteShark.

[trich]

IIRC by the time JB left the jail, Uncer and Richardson had already given statements to LE. According to Richardson, by the time he returned Casey to her cell, he was met by LE. JMO

Even if this info is not presented at trial would it still be a possible cause for dismissal?

Also it has been said this video was taken in a common room.
does anyone know if this is true?

Also aren't the jurors suppose to make their decision on the evidence
and only the evidence presented at trial?

[Lavinia]

I thought he took the the fifth to avoid incriminating himself in terms of perjury, hadn't he previously testified under oath that he never used that word?

I believe that's right, ishy, old friend.

[Sun]

After reading BRichardson's depo, I'm thinking that Baez is going to next be throwing a hissy-fit, and demanding to be able to meet with Casey only in the smaller attorney/client room. The room with no camera. sigh.

[AMS]

I was curious about the exact times that Baez was in the Jail to see Casey on Dec 11th, and found this old link to Casey's inmate visitors log back in December. Looks like Baez signed in at 11:55 a.m. and out again at 1:33 p.m. then visited Casey again later evening also.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18596659/detail.html

Inmate: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Booking #: 08049710 Permanent ID: P00516248

ADAM GABRIEL E 12/19/2008 20:56:38 12/19/2008 21:49:28 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/19/2008 14:32:09 12/19/2008 15:21:36 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/19/2008 13:59:31 12/19/2008 14:18:50 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/19/2008 11:41:21 12/19/2008 15:21:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/18/2008 19:07:24 12/18/2008 20:22:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/18/2008 06:40:03 12/18/2008 07:35:14 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/17/2008 22:31:18 12/17/2008 23:07:39 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/16/2008 09:35:45 12/16/2008 12:45:45 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/15/2008 18:56:18 12/15/2008 20:30:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/15/2008 07:16:47 12/15/2008 07:42:43 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/14/2008 10:27:50 12/14/2008 11:32:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 20:04:12 12/11/2008 21:05:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/11/2008 16:42:14 12/11/2008 20:23:15 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 11:55:53 12/11/2008 13:33:13 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/10/2008 21:44:09 12/11/2008 04:39:37 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/9/2008 20:45:08 12/9/2008 21:36:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/8/2008 20:47:40 12/8/2008 22:04:26 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/5/2008 15:19:57 12/5/2008 18:37:06 ATTORNEY VISIT


Does anyone know how to find the current log of her visitors? I am interested in seeing if Andrea Lyon has spent time with her.

imo

[Daffodil]

I cannot imagine the charges against Casey being dismissed over the tape.
I admit, I did not like the sounds of what went on in the jail that day.
LE sometimes oversteps the legal line when trying to gather evidence.
It is a dangerous thing to play with a defendent's rights.

However, the tape itself is really not important, IMO.
Casey's reaction can be interpreted different ways.
She did not confess.
I think her reaction shows consciousness of guilt, but the defense spin could easily be that she was terrified. Her child was missing and then the body of a child was found close to her home. Of course she hyperventilated, blah, blah, blah.
So, I think that the tape is a red herring and that it was a bad idea on the part of LE to "set Casey up."

I hope that the judge suppresses the tape and that's the end of it.
The tape proves nothing and the prosecution does not need it.
It is walking a mine field to consider this tape as evidence against Casey.

If the tape is tossed out, what will the defense start crying about next?

It's time to move on...

jmho




And, why does it seem the defense is spending so much time on this one issue? Shouldn't they be busy with other things?

I do want to see what is on that film. I'm sure we all will find out one way or another.

[kanzz]

Thanks. It was her respectable atty. that said she received a sedative.

Yes, but I think the big concern is about the interviews provided by staff at the jail as well as the video.

[martha]

Remember when we unleashed our keyboards on Congressman Grayson over the Caylee funding bill?

I got an email from him today saying NONE of the funds would go to the family. Nice that I got the email, especially since I don't live in Florida, but wrote him anyway.
I think that was really nice of him. I am so glad to hear none of the money will go to the a;s. I don;t live in florida eather. But it is nice to know someone will do the right thing down there.jmho

[kanzz]

And, why does it seem the defense is spending so much time on this one issue? Shouldn't they be busy with other things?

I do want to see what is on that film. I'm sure we all will find out one way or another.

Because it's big (?) Because they'll jump at every opportunity to get something excluded or to get a dismissal (?)

eta: I'd really like to see that video, too... but not if it will in any way hurt the prosecution.

[saywhat04]

Most interesting to me is the fact that it's just the media that Bozo is flailing against. The prosecution obviously doesn't care. Which tells me they are not planning on using it in the trial in the first place.

So what DOESN"t Baez want the public to see.

I don't know whether there's something on the tape he doesn't want made public, or whether this is an actual strategy.

It seems to me Baez has been trying to mount a case against OCSD and jail personnel from the beginning. Early on, he asked for the personnel records of, IIRC, Yuri Melich and another of the detectives on the case. (I don't know whatever came of that.)

Perhaps he feels the only way to defend Casey is to prove she was targeted, persecuted, treated "cruelly" (:rolleyes:) and unfairly by LE, hoping the charges will be dropped.

Seems to me he's done very little in the way of working to build an actual defense strategy. Seems to me he's hoping not to have to address Casey's actions at all.

[Lapis]

Even when that person specifically releases it to the media, putting the information in the public domain?

First I should state that in this discussion we are referring only to the sedative. They reveal other things relative to her medical condition to LE. But having said that they cannot reveal and discuss to anyone even if Casey takes out a billboard. Casey did not give them permission to reveal this to anyone including and arguably most especially LE. JMO

[legalmania]

I have to ask our legal experts here something about the motion that Baez filed. Isn't the opinion of two correctional officers unrelated to this case. Shouldn't Casey's treatment in jail be addressed through jailhosue grievances. Whether she was treated "cruely" or not (and the term was first used by LKB and JB, NOT the officers) has nothing to do with the legal grounds in this case. AS I see it, the only LEGAL questions are HIPPA and atty/client privilege.

As for Baez being held from his client for a SIGNIFICANT time, given jail procedures for visitors, I don't think 30 minutes even begins to qualify as signifcant. Checkin at LA County jail can be as long as 3 hours.

That to me is the clue word here jail. As far as I understand when your in jail you have very limited rights, and when there is a problem it is handled by the board. They did give her medical attention when she they saw she was having a panic attack. I think they did the best they could, would it have been better if some prisoners yelled out hey Casey they found your baby and she is dead. As far as I remember Casey was given the choice to meet with a pastor and she said she would rather meet with her legal team. She also was standing in a secure area. If she doesn't know by now that she can be videotaped in certain areas, then she must have some kind of brain smog. I can only speak for Florida I don't know how other states handle their prisoners.

[Sun]

I don't know whether there's something on the tape he doesn't want made public, or whether this is an actual strategy.

It seems to me Baez has been trying to mount a case against OCSD and jail personnel from the beginning. Early on, he asked for the personnel records of, IIRC, Yuri Melich and another of the detectives on the case. (I don't know whatever came of that.)

Perhaps he feels the only way to defend Casey is to prove she was targeted, persecuted, treated "cruelly" (:rolleyes:) and unfairly by LE, hoping the charges will be dropped.

Seems to me he's done very little in the way of working to build an actual defense strategy. Seems to me he's hoping not to have to address Casey's actions at all.

Kind of looks that way to me too. Though at times, I wonder if Baez efforts to attack/investigate LE is driven by lies that Casey is telling him?

[joolz]

I believe that's right, ishy, old friend.

Hi L-girl! Yes, that's what I recall too. :smile:

[Lapis]

Even if this info is not presented at trial would it still be a possible cause for dismissal?

Also it has been said this video was taken in a common room.
does anyone know if this is true?

Also aren't the jurors suppose to make their decision on the evidence
and only the evidence presented at trial?

The state cannot just say "we'll take the suppression judge". They can argue that is the proper remedy, but it is for the court to determine the remedy.

Please understand, it doesn't matter where she was in the jail. There are cameras everywhere. The violation lies in allowing LE to view the tape, and preserving the tape, when in the ordinary course of business it would have been taped over and in allowing LE to make a copy of the tape.

Yes, the jury will only consider the evidence presented at trial.

JMO

[Sun]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun
I was curious about the exact times that Baez was in the Jail to see Casey on Dec 11th, and found this old link to Casey's inmate visitors log back in December. Looks like Baez signed in at 11:55 a.m. and out again at 1:33 p.m. then visited Casey again later evening also.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18596659/detail.html

Inmate: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Booking #: 08049710 Permanent ID: P00516248

ADAM GABRIEL E 12/19/2008 20:56:38 12/19/2008 21:49:28 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/19/2008 14:32:09 12/19/2008 15:21:36 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/19/2008 13:59:31 12/19/2008 14:18:50 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/19/2008 11:41:21 12/19/2008 15:21:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/18/2008 19:07:24 12/18/2008 20:22:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/18/2008 06:40:03 12/18/2008 07:35:14 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/17/2008 22:31:18 12/17/2008 23:07:39 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/16/2008 09:35:45 12/16/2008 12:45:45 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/15/2008 18:56:18 12/15/2008 20:30:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/15/2008 07:16:47 12/15/2008 07:42:43 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/14/2008 10:27:50 12/14/2008 11:32:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 20:04:12 12/11/2008 21:05:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/11/2008 16:42:14 12/11/2008 20:23:15 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 11:55:53 12/11/2008 13:33:13 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/10/2008 21:44:09 12/11/2008 04:39:37 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/9/2008 20:45:08 12/9/2008 21:36:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/8/2008 20:47:40 12/8/2008 22:04:26 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/5/2008 15:19:57 12/5/2008 18:37:06 ATTORNEY VISIT

Does anyone know how to find the current log of her visitors? I am interested in seeing if Andrea Lyon has spent time with her.

imo

As far as I know, only logs up through Jan 26th have been released by the media. I wish Channel 9 would be so kind as to publish this info to the public. ...from Jan 27th through the present.

[martha]

It breaks my heart how the A's treat Caylee. The only way we know how and what they think of Caylee are by thier public displays of "affection". Isn't it odd that I cannot recall one pubic display of affection for Caylee from them, other than George (at times). Their public displays are really rather disturbing. It's as if they want to erase the fact that she ever existed. This just breaks my heart that a 2 year old could be treated this way, in her death to say the least, by her relatives!!!!!!!!! The people who should be her biggest supporters have let her down every chance they get.

And because of that, I can only assume that is somewhat how she was treated in life by them. How could loving, doting grandparents just turn on an innocent murdered grandchild? ITA with you I just can;t understand the way the a;s or doing. Why were they not on tv begging people to help find her when they keep saying she was alive? I would have took every chance I got to beg for Caylee and the tears would never have stoped. jmho

[saywhat04]

Kind of looks that way to me too. Though at times, I wonder if Baez efforts to attack/investigate LE is driven by lies that Casey is telling him?

I hope so. :laugh:

[True2Blues]

ITA with you I just can;t understand the way the a;s or doing. Why were they not on tv begging people to help find her when they keep saying she was alive? I would have took every chance I got to beg for Caylee and the tears would never have stoped. jmho

That's what a normal, loving family would do. There's nothing normal about this family as far as most of us can see.

The A's wrote Caylee off when they realized she was dead. All they care about is themselves and how much money they can make exploiting her. It's horrible and despicable, but that's the way it is.

[AMS]

As far as I know, only logs up through Jan 26th have been released by the media. I wish Channel 9 would be so kind as to publish this info to the public. ...from Jan 27th through the present.

Thanks Sun.

[Tornado]

The state cannot just say "we'll take the suppression judge". They can argue that is the proper remedy, but it is for the court to determine the remedy.

Please understand, it doesn't matter where she was in the jail. There are cameras everywhere. The violation lies in allowing LE to view the tape, and preserving the tape, when in the ordinary course of business it would have been taped over and in allowing LE to make a copy of the tape.

Yes, the jury will only consider the evidence presented at trial.

JMO

You insight and experience is so valuable here. I just wanted you to know that. :biggrin:

[legalmania]

http://www.ocpafl.org/pls/webappI/get_parcel_by_addr?s_num=4937&s_dir=&s_name=Hopespring&s_type=&DI_0=on&DI_1=on&DI_2=on&DI_3=on&DI_4=on&DI_5=on&DI_6=on&x=54&y=25 reports 4 bedrooms, 2 baths.

It's small I couldn't even fit my tables in there. Four bedrooms must be real tight in there.

[Unleashed]

I think that was really nice of him. I am so glad to hear none of the money will go to the a;s. I don;t live in florida eather. But it is nice to know someone will do the right thing down there.jmho

You're right, martha, it was nice. Nice is a word rarely used when the A's are discussed, and Lord knows they don't do the right thing!

JMO

[legalmania]

Hi Lapis,

Thanks for the informative posts....I believe they will suppress the tapes...As for dismissing the case....I don't think sooooo....Casey is going to go on trial....and IMO will be found guilty...even if the state removes 1/2 of the evidence, the other half will convict.....JMO

The media is the ones who want the tape, and they're pretty good at getting what they want.

[ish]

That's been so long ago, 15 years or so. I believe they had a woman who had interviewed Fuhrman or worked with him doing some kind of journalistic essay, or movie, or something. She was said on tape that Fuhrman had used "that" word. It was one of the most dramatic moments of the trial, other than Marcia Clarks new "do".

I don't recall the details. It's called CRS.

yeah but first they got him on the stand and he denied saying it, then they brought in the evidence that he did and called him back to the stand, he then took the 5th to avoid incriminating himself and committing perjury. either way I hope this trial doesn't turn into a bunch of sideshows.

[Lavinia]

Hi L-girl! Yes, that's what I recall too. :smile:

Then we shall declare it so! :thumbsup: :laugh:

[MiamiNice1]

What I find interesting is how the word cruelty was never used until the DEFENSE team said it. Unser specifically didn't use the word until pushed into a corner. Casey apparently didn't feel they were cruel at all.Even more importnat to me is that Casey was fully aware of the discovery BEFORE being taken to medical. I fail to see WHAT would upset her with the TV as they never showed any pictures of the UNIDENTIFIED CHILD - so why would she be so upset. Even George said he and Cindy weren't upset because it wasn't known that it was Caylee.

(bolding mine)

This is EXACTLY why those 2 maroons need to keep their mouths SHUT. The SA, in court, can describe (or maybe they'll be allowed to show the video) Casey's reaction to the YET unidentified remains and contrast that with George saying they weren't upset because it wasn't confirmed it was Caylee. :rolleyes:

The SA can clearly ask why G&C did not know, yet Casey, stuck in a prison cell, did.

[missinglink]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

[legalmania]

I cannot imagine the charges against Casey being dismissed over the tape.
I admit, I did not like the sounds of what went on in the jail that day.
LE sometimes oversteps the legal line when trying to gather evidence.
It is a dangerous thing to play with a defendant's rights.

However, the tape itself is really not important, IMO.
Casey's reaction can be interpreted different ways.
She did not confess.
I think her reaction shows consciousness of guilt, but the defense spin could easily be that she was terrified. Her child was missing and then the body of a child was found close to her home. Of course she hyperventilated, blah, blah, blah.
So, I think that the tape is a red herring and that it was a bad idea on the part of LE to "set Casey up."

I hope that the judge suppresses the tape and that's the end of it.
The tape proves nothing and the prosecution does not need it.
It is walking a mine field to consider this tape as evidence against Casey.

If the tape is tossed out, what will the defense start crying about next?

It's time to move on...

jmho

Like I said before the media is fighting for the tape. They feel the public wants to see the reaction. So then they can bring in body language experts, and try to interpret what she was thinking.

[Sandy001]

Even if this info is not presented at trial would it still be a possible cause for dismissal?

Also it has been said this video was taken in a common room.
does anyone know if this is true?

Also aren't the jurors suppose to make their decision on the evidence
and only the evidence presented at trial?
The videow was taken in the waiting room at the medical facility - not in an examining room or when Casey was actually getting any medical attention.

Yes, the jurors can only make their decision on what is presented at court.

[ish]

The notifications are a 3x5 piece of paper in a pinkish orangish hue. My regular postman usually puts them in the mailbox, but the substitute postman sticks them in the door. I have gone for days without seeing it as I do not regularly use my front door. The way he/she does it you can only see from the inside and where my door is located it is not readily apparent. If he/she doesn't push it in far enough they can fall. I have found them in my bushes and even under the snow. Given my history with these notices I have never disbelieved or found anything sinister in their explaination. JMO
as an employer we often have to send registered/certified return receipt mail. knowing a lot of employees dont' sign for things when they see their employer's return address we generally also send one regular mail. This way the employee knows it's OKay to sign, they are not being fired!!!

[Sandy001]

It's small I couldn't even fit my tables in there. Four bedrooms must be real tight in there.
Under 1500 sq ft for 4 bedrooms, 4 baths seems awfully small to me, too.

[joolz]

Then we shall declare it so! :thumbsup: :laugh:

I like the way you think.:biggrin:

[missinglink]

I like the way you think.:biggrin:

joolz, just now getting to an earlier question about last night. I'm going to skip and scroll. :sneaky:

[saywhat04]

yeah but first they got him on the stand and he denied saying it, then they brought in the evidence that he did and called him back to the stand, he then took the 5th to avoid incriminating himself and committing perjury. either way I hope this trial doesn't turn into a bunch of sideshows.

The chances it won't: slim and none. Slim's out of town. :glare:

[ish]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

A WINK!!! WTH does a WINK mean. CIndy must have watched that hearing later on TV, determined no one could see Casey's face to disprove her and conjured up a wink.ANd why not wink back, instead of the sad, little look that said she's ignoring us. Cindy is under no obligation to respond to emails from strangers, why do so and make up a lie? Next thing she'll fake a bunch of alleged letters she's received from Casey while she has been in jail.

[saywhat04]

(bolding mine)

This is EXACTLY why those 2 maroons need to keep their mouths SHUT. The SA, in court, can describe (or maybe they'll be allowed to show the video) Casey's reaction to the YET unidentified remains and contrast that with George saying they weren't upset because it wasn't confirmed it was Caylee. :rolleyes:

The SA can clearly ask why G&C did not know, yet Casey, stuck in a prison cell, did.

Betcha George's response was to a question about how they could dine and lounge at the Ritz the evening the remains were found. :rolleyes:

[MiamiNice1]

I don't care if they knew or they didn't know. I don't care if this Lois woman is nuts or not (although it does seem like she is a crackpot)....Who made the rule that crackpots can't erect a cross? Seems to me that a wooden cross is better in the long run than a memorial that decomposes from the elements. A cross with Caylee's name on it seems to be a pretty dignified symbol even if it was constructed by a nut.

My point is that Cindy and George (and their hot mess friends from KidFinders aka LookingtomakeabuckFinders) have no right to take the law into their own hands. This is not Death Wish and they are not Charles Bronson. Someone could have been hurt in this stupid high speed antic. What if an older person had to take their dog out that night and was crossing the street at the exact time the cars were racing through? What if a teenager was crossing the street to come home that night. Christ on a crutch...we have speeding laws for a reason, especially in residential zones.

It makes me so mad that Cindy and George have been allowed to get away with anything and everything that they have done. They now believe that they can continue to do so. And if they get caught, just lie and lie some more. Oh, and their attorney will lie for them as well. They need to get legally knocked down a peg or two so they will stop some of this foolishness. If not, they will continue to act out like a pair of children and someone is going to get hurt. If it takes a nutcase like Lois to snap photos or videos that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are out doing "wrong" things..............so be it.

I'm coming to the conclusion that George and Cindy are comfortable with the "any attention is good attention" syndrome.

Whew, okay.......I'm done. My own opinion of course. Thanks for listening.. Be well.

I couldn't believe what I was reading last night of The Anthony/Milstead S.W.A.T. Mission! A poster last night, really917, made me laugh out loud by calling them "Lucy, Ricky, Fred and Ethel."

Your post is EXCELLENT and sums up all my thoughts so beautifully!

What is wrong with a CROSS at the memorial - aren't the Anthonys claiming to be religious, Christian people?!

How much more undignified and low rent can these people be?

Don't the Anthonys have any respect for the seriousness of what their daughter is facing?

Don't they care that they must be humiliating and embarassing Lee?

What kind of felons, ones that WANT to appear respectable with their KidFinderNetwork, keep doing things that are against the law?

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!

imo

[saywhat04]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

So nice of Cindy to keep you updated. :laugh:

[ish]

The chances it won't: slim and none. Slim's out of town. :glare:

I agree, we'll have the Kronk sideshow as they cast blame on him, the Tony Lazzaro sideshow, the Amy H sideshow, the Grund family, the guy who talked to the psychic, the PI's and in the center ring the ZFG sideshow.

How do you think LKB will look in a circus costume? I picture the elephant in a tutu.:thumbsup:

[missinglink]

A WINK!!! WTH does a WINK mean. CIndy must have watched that hearing later on TV, determined no one could see Casey's face to disprove her and conjured up a wink.ANd why not wink back, instead of the sad, little look that said she's ignoring us. Cindy is under no obligation to respond to emails from strangers, why do so and make up a lie? Next thing she'll fake a bunch of alleged letters she's received from Casey while she has been in jail.

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t:

[joolz]

joolz, just now getting to an earlier question about last night. I'm going to skip and scroll. :sneaky:

Sometimes it's the only choice, isn't it?:wink:

[missinglink]

So nice of Cindy to keep you updated. :laugh:

Yes.

I have to admit I was afraid to open the email. I'm kind of :chicken: sometimes.

[saywhat04]

Under 1500 sq ft for 4 bedrooms, 4 baths seems awfully small to me, too.

I'm thinking the accurate description would be 1 bedroom and 3 large closets.

Lots of builders seem to be cramming as many bedrooms as possible, no matter how small, into homes these days (as in, the last what -- couple of decades maybe?). Guess it's what buyers want, but I always wonder what sort of furniture is being jammed into those tiny rooms. Seems like you'd need Classy Closets or whatever to come in and custom-build furniture up against the walls just to allow for moving around in those tiny rooms. Might work for a baby, but for older kids, adults ... office space? Yikes.

[MiamiNice1]

Betcha George's response was to a question about how they could dine and lounge at the Ritz the evening the remains were found. :rolleyes:
You're right! And as disgusting as that is, it is still "out there" - they had NO IDEA it was Caylee. :rolleyes:

I'm know you've mentioned this a few times and I always completely agree with you - so many suppositions and possible explanations and theories that were written in the beginning of this case by many wise posters.......just seemed so "out there" and exaggerated - BUT eventually, ALL of it and MORE has become true. Truly mind blowing!


(this dress you're wearing was always my favorite! :tonguewag:)

[Cynthia]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.


I read on another board last week a comment from someone that was actually in the courtroom sitting near the Anthonys' and she said that Casey never looked their way and they let out a huge sad sign as she left.....

[*MoonRider*]

P.I. Dominic Casey preventing Casey Anthony's defense from getting cell phone records, though he already put them online:
http://www.wftv.com/news/19647738/detail.html

[joolz]

I agree, we'll have the Kronk sideshow as they cast blame on him, the Tony Lazzaro sideshow, the Amy H sideshow, the Grund family, the guy who talked to the psychic, the PI's and in the center ring the ZFG sideshow.

How do you think LKB will look in a circus costume? I picture the elephant in a tutu.:thumbsup:

Does that mean the center ring will be invisible? :ohmy:

[AMS]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

OMG! Why did she write this to you missinglink? Had you sent her an email and she was responding?

imo

[MiamiNice1]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

Cindy = Pants on fire!!!! :thumbdown:

[missinglink]

Sometimes it's the only choice, isn't it?:wink:

Yes. I hope this thread stays open. It's for Caylee. So sad she's been gone for almost a year.

[AMS]

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t:

Now that she is not out stealing crosses and the like, she probably has time to get caught up on her email.

imo

[Kokopelli]

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t:
Gosh, I think that it is almost impossible to wink with a big old sad mouth going on. I just tried it and it just doesn't work. And, she said Wink, not Stink right? :sneaky:

[MiamiNice1]

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t:

(bolding mine) Oh, ok, that's different then. Cindy probably DID wink - BUT Casey didn't even bother to look at them and see it - so technically, Cindy is telling the truth! :rolleyes:

[AMS]

She wrote to me too. And now I seem to be getting a lot more spam. Co-inkydink? :ohmy:

What did she say to you AnnieP?

[saywhat04]

I agree, we'll have the Kronk sideshow as they cast blame on him, the Tony Lazzaro sideshow, the Amy H sideshow, the Grund family, the guy who talked to the psychic, the PI's and in the center ring the ZFG sideshow.

How do you think LKB will look in a circus costume? I picture the elephant in a tutu.:thumbsup:

I honestly can't think of a NON sideshow aspect of the trial at the moment. Baez um'ing and aw'ing and making no sense when he IS able to complete a thought. The two gals seem given over to theatrics. Then there's Henry Lee. :w00t:

... the Anthonys are a sideshow all by themselves. :biggrinjester:

... the state's attorneys can't seem to keep their body language in check when Baez is speaking.

... the two hapless PI's ... the KidFinders criminals ... bounty hunters and scuba divers ... intrepid reporters ...

Under the big top, for certain.

[*MoonRider*]

Cindy just emailed me a couple of hours ago saying that, at the hearing...

Casey DID look at her and George and Cindy said that she winked at Casey as Casey was leaving the courtroom.

:confused:
(Not what I saw!)

Oh well.

Cindy has lost it for sure. Was she thinking of this wink? http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/wink.jpg
Did she mention her nighttime outing with the Milsteads?

[ish]

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t:

my bad, will read more closely ...all these C names drive me nuts!!!

[missinglink]

OMG! Why did she write this to you missinglink? Had you sent her an email and she was responding?

imo

She said this in response to my second email to her where I said I had noticed that it looked like Casey wouldn't even glance their way and that it must have hurt them, and I said I knew they loved Casey but I was sorry she was causing them pain.

The first email was about hoping they would open their eyes, that IMO, Casey was guilty, and I thought Casey was going to throw them under the bus. And that, after all this is over with, will they be able to sleep well at night.

[101Spots]

I agree, we'll have the Kronk sideshow as they cast blame on him, the Tony Lazzaro sideshow, the Amy H sideshow, the Grund family, the guy who talked to the psychic, the PI's and in the center ring the ZFG sideshow.

How do you think LKB will look in a circus costume? I picture the elephant in a tutu.:thumbsup:

LKB in a tutu?? :scared:

Pork. Pure pork.

Can we at least make it a long one instead of the little stick-out-sideways ones?

[saywhat04]

You're right! And as disgusting as that is, it is still "out there" - they had NO IDEA it was Caylee. :rolleyes:

I'm know you've mentioned this a few times and I always completely agree with you - so many suppositions and possible explanations and theories that were written in the beginning of this case by many wise posters.......just seemed so "out there" and exaggerated - BUT eventually, ALL of it and MORE has become true. Truly mind blowing!


(this dress you're wearing was always my favorite! :tonguewag:)

lol ... even my wildest suppositions have been surpassed by the Hand Family.

Thanks for the compliment. Found this one in the back of the closet -- forgot I even had it. :laugh:

[joolz]

I honestly can't think of a NON sideshow aspect of the trial at the moment. Baez um'ing and aw'ing and making no sense when he IS able to complete a thought. The two gals seem given over to theatrics. Then there's Henry Lee.

... the Anthonys are a sideshow all by themselves. :biggrinjester:

... the state's attorneys can't seem to keep their body language in check when Baez is speaking.

... the two hapless PI's ... the KidFinders criminals ... bounty hunters and scuba divers ... intrepid reporters ...

Under the big top, for certain.

Don't forget the fat, lonely bloggers.:sneaky::laugh:

[AMS]

I wrote to her and told her I would be sending a donation to TES in Caylee's name (as opposed to KFN).

She wrote back and said, "I'm sure they will be thankful."

She obviously wasn't.

Obviously not. :thumbdown:

imo

[True2Blues]

Now that she is not out stealing crosses and the like, she probably has time to get caught up on her email.

imo

:lol: It's pathetic, but funny.

[saywhat04]

Cindy has lost it for sure. Was she thinking of this wink? http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/wink.jpg
Did she mention her nighttime outing with the Milsteads?

OMG! ROFL! :lol:

[Sandy001]

Wait! Cindy said she winked at Casey, not the other way around. I sure didn't see it.

She hasn't answered my first email yet, about me telling Cindy I thought Casey was going to try and throw Cindy under the bus. Still waiting on a response...:w00t: I wonder if someone wrote her and asked her how to help Casey, what kind of a reply would Cindy make?

Pray?

I pray daily that Casey adn the Anthony family get JUSTICE

[True2Blues]

Don't forget the fat, lonely bloggers.:sneaky::laugh:

Cindy just oozes maturity, doesn't she? The whole you're fat, you're ugly thing stops in the grade school playground for most people.

[missinglink]

Cindy has lost it for sure. Was she thinking of this wink? http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/wink.jpg
Did she mention her nighttime outing with the Milsteads?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, no mention of her outing. OMG!

[joolz]

Cindy just oozes maturity, doesn't she? The whole you're fat, you're ugly thing stops in the grade school playground for most people.

But the Anthonys have made it clear that they know they are NOT most people. They are "special." :thumbdown:

[ish]

After reading BRichardson's depo, I'm thinking that Baez is going to next be throwing a hissy-fit, and demanding to be able to meet with Casey only in the smaller attorney/client room. The room with no camera. sigh.

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

[True2Blues]

But the Anthonys have made it clear that they know they are NOT most people. They are "special." :thumbdown:


They're "Special" alright, just not in the way they think.:cursing:

[saywhat04]

Cindy just oozes maturity, doesn't she? The whole you're fat, you're ugly thing stops in the grade school playground for most people.

Oozes it, for sure. I'm repeatedly stunned at how adolescent both she and George behave. It's no wonder 22 year-old Casey sat in jail on that video visitation with her face screwed up in a pout and her hand raised in a fist. And it's no wonder the best nearly 30 year-old Lee could do by way of a tribute to his dead niece was wailing "C M A" and kissing his wrist.

Heck, I've seen many adolescents with more mature, appropriate, and genuine behavior than these 4. It's just stunning.

[True2Blues]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

That explanation I buy.:thumbsup:

[legalmania]

I was curious about the exact times that Baez was in the Jail to see Casey on Dec 11th, and found this old link to Casey's inmate visitors log back in December. Looks like Baez signed in at 11:55 a.m. and out again at 1:33 p.m. then visited Casey again later evening also.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18596659/detail.html

Inmate: ANTHONY, CASEY MARIE
Booking #: 08049710 Permanent ID: P00516248

ADAM GABRIEL E 12/19/2008 20:56:38 12/19/2008 21:49:28 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/19/2008 14:32:09 12/19/2008 15:21:36 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/19/2008 13:59:31 12/19/2008 14:18:50 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/19/2008 11:41:21 12/19/2008 15:21:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/18/2008 19:07:24 12/18/2008 20:22:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/18/2008 06:40:03 12/18/2008 07:35:14 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/17/2008 22:31:18 12/17/2008 23:07:39 ATTORNEY VISIT
STUTZMAN THOMAS SHANE 12/16/2008 09:35:45 12/16/2008 12:45:45 JAIL MINISTRIES
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/15/2008 18:56:18 12/15/2008 20:30:46 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/15/2008 07:16:47 12/15/2008 07:42:43 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/14/2008 10:27:50 12/14/2008 11:32:38 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 20:04:12 12/11/2008 21:05:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
GARCIA JOSE LUIS 12/11/2008 16:42:14 12/11/2008 20:23:15 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/11/2008 11:55:53 12/11/2008 13:33:13 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/10/2008 21:44:09 12/11/2008 04:39:37 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/9/2008 20:45:08 12/9/2008 21:36:19 ATTORNEY VISIT
ADAM GABRIEL E 12/8/2008 20:47:40 12/8/2008 22:04:26 ATTORNEY VISIT
BAEZ JOSE ANGEL 12/5/2008 15:19:57 12/5/2008 18:37:06 ATTORNEY VISIT

So Caylee was found about 10:00 and he didn't show up until 14:32 that's a little more than 30 minutes?

[spiritwolf46]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

Bolding mine

He had better be careful striking those two cells together! He could cause a heck of a file in that empty wind tunnel of a head!

Okay, so I have been reading up on the A's latest outing. What immature, ignorant people these are! That goes for the Pilsteads, too!

[saywhat04]

I wonder if someone wrote her and asked her how to help Casey, what kind of a reply would Cindy make?

Pray?

I pray daily that Casey adn the Anthony family get JUSTICE

I suspect the answer to all inquiries about how to help any member of the Hand Family involves sending $$$ to the CMA fraudation. Ca$h, check$, credit card$, and Paypal are all accepted.

[missinglink]

Oh CARP you all. I'm sorry!!!

I looked at the email wrong. She didn't say winked at her. Cindy said she blew Casey a kiss.

For next time, how do I get my email response to post here? And how do I remove my email addy when doing it?

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spiritwolf46]

Oozes it, for sure. I'm repeatedly stunned at how adolescent both she and George behave. It's no wonder 22 year-old Casey sat in jail on that video visitation with her face screwed up in a pout and her hand raised in a fist. And it's no wonder the best nearly 30 year-old Lee could do by way of a tribute to his dead niece was wailing "C M A" and kissing his wrist.

Heck, I've seen many adolescents with more mature, appropriate, and genuine behavior than these 4. It's just stunning.

It's frushtrating, ishn't it?

[saywhat04]

It's frushtrating, ishn't it?

It ish. I haven't been able to swallow in months. Even in my neutral place. Where I went without haste.

I have no more questions.




:laugh:

[True2Blues]

Oh CARP you all. I'm sorry!!!

I looked at the email wrong. She didn't say winked at her. Cindy said she blew Casey a kiss.

For next time, how do I get my email response to post here? And how do I remove my email addy when doing it?

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cindy blowing a kiss, that's a scary thought. (and a bunch of bull hockey I'm sure)

[AMS]

Oh CARP you all. I'm sorry!!!

I looked at the email wrong. She didn't say winked at her. Cindy said she blew Casey a kiss.

For next time, how do I get my email response to post here? And how do I remove my email addy when doing it?

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi - you can copy your email and then paste it as a response here. You can delete any of the private information before you send it.

imo

[Unleashed]

I couldn't believe what I was reading last night of The Anthony/Milstead S.W.A.T. Mission! A poster last night, really917, made me laugh out loud by calling them "Lucy, Ricky, Fred and Ethel."

Your post is EXCELLENT and sums up all my thoughts so beautifully!

What is wrong with a CROSS at the memorial - aren't the Anthonys claiming to be religious, Christian people?!

How much more undignified and low rent can these people be?

Don't the Anthonys have any respect for the seriousness of what their daughter is facing?

Don't they care that they must be humiliating and embarassing Lee?

What kind of felons, ones that WANT to appear respectable with their KidFinderNetwork, keep doing things that are against the law?

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!

imo

Lucy, Ricky, Fred and Ethel took offense at the comparison.

JMO

[KP1935]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

Why wouldn't JB address this at the time it occured? Lapis, if he doesn't file some kind of complaint at the time, doesn't this hurt his chances of proving that it happened?

[saywhat04]

Oh CARP you all. I'm sorry!!!

I looked at the email wrong. She didn't say winked at her. Cindy said she blew Casey a kiss.

For next time, how do I get my email response to post here? And how do I remove my email addy when doing it?

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No worries.

I saw no kiss blowing. :confused:

Anyone else?

Suppose she could've done it while the camera was elsewhere.

[missinglink]

Hi - you can copy your email and then paste it as a response here. You can delete any of the private information before you send it.

imo

Believe me this. When it comes to computers, I'm dumber than Baez. I'm on a laptop. Walk me through it please. :blushing:

[Sun]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

chuckles... could be.

[Kokopelli]

Oh CARP you all. I'm sorry!!!

I looked at the email wrong. She didn't say winked at her. Cindy said she blew Casey a kiss.

For next time, how do I get my email response to post here? And how do I remove my email addy when doing it?

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OHHH, that makes more sense, and at the same time, I thought I saw George raise his hand to sign the cross, saying "Go in Peace ..."

[Ckrdpast]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-photo-060309,0,4477288.story

eBay seller trying to make $280 off yearbook with Casey Anthony photos

the reporter emailed the seller----sellers response is on the link

[*MoonRider*]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

I'm convinced there is no activity at all. jmho

[saywhat04]

Wonder if Brad Conway is married?

If so, his wife has got to be begging him to separate himself from G&C.

I'm still chuckling thinking about how he must've taken the news of the midnight caper pulled off by his clients and their felonious friends.

:lol:

[AMS]

Believe me this. When it comes to computers, I'm dumber than Baez. I'm on a laptop. Walk me through it please. :blushing:

OK. Open the email. HIghlight the text. Then put your cursor on the highlighted text and right click the mouse. Click on "copy".

Come back to the board and open up the response box. Put your cursor in the box area. Right click on your mouse. Click on "paste". The email should then appear.

If there are names or emails you want to delete, you can edit the text just like you edit a post.

Does that make sense?

[saywhat04]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-photo-060309,0,4477288.story

eBay seller trying to make $280 off yearbook with Casey Anthony photos

the reporter emailed the seller----sellers response is on the link

Wow. That's one testy little ebay seller!

[Sun]

WOW, that ebay seller offering the yearbook has jacked the BIN price way up! Wasn't it just $179 earlier today?

[missinglink]

OK. Open the email. HIghlight the text. Then put your cursor on the highlighted text and right click the mouse. Click on "copy".

Come back to the board and open up the response box. Put your cursor in the box area. Right click on your mouse. Click on "paste". The email should then appear.

If there are names or emails you want to delete, you can edit the text just like you edit a post.

Does that make sense?

Uh, sorry, I don't have a mouse. :crying:

[Ckrdpast]

Uh, sorry, I don't have a mouse. :crying:

touch pad?

[saywhat04]

Uh, sorry, I don't have a mouse. :crying:

Awww. Hugs to the mouseless missinglink. :smile:

No worries, ml. You can just summarize Cindy's emails for us like you've been doing. Now that you two are BFF's (best friends forever) and all. :wink:

[Sun]

EBay Seller Offers Yearbook With Anthony Photos

Colonial High Yearbook On Sale For $179.99

http://www.wesh.com/news/19645818/detail.html

imo

That seller has now jacked up the BIN price to $499.99, but is entertaining offers. Someone is hoping for a big profit.

[legalmania]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-photo-060309,0,4477288.story

eBay seller trying to make $280 off yearbook with Casey Anthony photos

the reporter emailed the seller----sellers response is on the link

can't you order those for about $20 bucks.

[spiritwolf46]

That seller has now jacked up the BIN price to $499.99, but is entertaining offers. Someone is hoping for a big profit.

As SNIPPY as the answer was to the reporter, it just MAY be Cindy as someone here asked! :angry:

[Ckrdpast]

That seller has now jacked up the BIN price to $499.99, but is entertaining offers. Someone is hoping for a big profit.

i just checked the ebay listing and "This item has ended with Buy it Now"

[AMS]

Awww. Hugs to the mouseless missinglink. :smile:

No worries, ml. You can just summarize Cindy's emails for us like you've been doing. Now that you two are BFF's (best friends forever) and all. :wink:

ITA. You summed it up nicely for us. I have visions of Cindy blowing kisses...:w00t: Argh!!

imo

[MiamiNice1]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-photo-060309,0,4477288.story

eBay seller trying to make $280 off yearbook with Casey Anthony photos

the reporter emailed the seller----sellers response is on the link
:laugh: That seller gave that reporter a good, swift kick to his notepad!

[True2Blues]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-photo-060309,0,4477288.story

eBay seller trying to make $280 off yearbook with Casey Anthony photos

the reporter emailed the seller----sellers response is on the link

It's not like there's a shortage of photos available. She took tons of pictures of herself.

[kanzz]

can't you order those for about $20 bucks.

I've heard you can (if you have a link, pls post.. all of mine were destroyed and I'd really like to replace them). tia

[AMS]

That seller has now jacked up the BIN price to $499.99, but is entertaining offers. Someone is hoping for a big profit.

Have there been any offers?

Casey will be so pleased with this eBay event. I can see her saying, "Look at how much people will pay just to see ME ME ME". :sneaky:

Next we will see Cindy selling her own year book on eBay to show Casey she (Cindy) is worth more than Casey.

imo

[True2Blues]

If Cindy attempted to blow a kiss, she'd blow a bubble instead. :laugh:

:biggrin: At least it would stop that gawd awful open mouth chomping for a minute. LOL

[True2Blues]

Me too! And AL's reaction. :w00t: OMH

Do you think the Anthonys are embarrassed?

I don't think the A's are capable of being embarrassed.

[legalmania]

Believe me this. When it comes to computers, I'm dumber than Baez. I'm on a laptop. Walk me through it please. :blushing:

Walk you through what?

[legalmania]

i just checked the ebay listing and "This item has ended with Buy it Now"

There are thousands of pictures of her for free what fool would pay almost five hundred dollars for something that is going to be worth nothing after the trial?

[Lavinia]

It ish. I haven't been able to swallow in months. Even in my neutral place. Where I went without haste.

I have no more questions.




:laugh:

Do you feel me reach out to you in my frushtrashion? :wub:

[Sun]

There are thousands of pictures of her for free what fool would pay almost five hundred dollars for something that is going to be worth nothing after the trial?

Some fool did click BIN ...for the full asking price of $499.99. With the media coverage that this has gotten, there will probably be five yearbooks listed within the next 24 hours. LOL

[True2Blues]

There are thousands of pictures of her for free what fool would pay almost five hundred dollars for something that is going to be worth nothing after the trial?


That's what I thought. I guess some people really will buy just about anything.

[Ckrdpast]

Some fool did click BIN ...for the full asking price of $499.99. With the media coverage that this has gotten, there will probably be five yearbooks listed within the next 24 hours. LOL

i find it suspect that the yearbook went from $179.99 to $499.99 in a few short hours and sold with a BIN---especially since the reporter wrote a story on it-- included sellers own "cranky" email response --- serveral people contacted the seller informing him that they were disgusted with his trying to make money off of a murdered child--and some even went further and logged complaints with ebay!!



something just smells fishy to me!

[saywhat04]

Me too! And AL's reaction. :w00t: OMH

Do you think the Anthonys are embarrassed?

Nope. In order to feel embarrassment, you have to take responsibility for the action that caused the embarrassment. As we've seen, the Hand Family takes responsibility for nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

George already put the *not our fault* spin on the story that Conway was silly enough to run with, and I'm sure even if you nailed Cynthia to the wall for an explanation of her behavior, she'd come out swinging and the first thing you'd hear would be whose fault it REALLY was that she was out destroying property in the dead of night.

[saywhat04]

Do you feel me reach out to you in my frushtrashion? :wub:

Yesh, I do. We are frushtrated partners in crime. Shall we dive under the blanket now and read our Bible?

Pork rind? :wub:

[CelticDawn]

Wonder if Brad Conway is married?

If so, his wife has got to be begging him to separate himself from G&C.

I'm still chuckling thinking about how he must've taken the news of the midnight caper pulled off by his clients and their felonious friends.

:lol:

OMG OMG....I have been out all day!!!...


What have I missed?

What are yall talking about???



Conway is SICKENING!!!


Whats going on with Lowis and that issue???



anybody in the can yet??? (I wish)

[Sun]

i find it suspect that the yearbook went from $179.99 to $499.99 in a few short hours and sold with a BIN---especially since the reporter wrote a story on it-- included sellers own "cranky" email response --- serveral people contacted the seller informing him that they were disgusted with his trying to make money off of a murdered child--and some even went further and logged complaints with ebay!!



something just smells fishy to me!

Something does seem rather odd about the sale. In all fairness to that Seller, it does seem like they regularly sell out-of-print yearbooks of all kinds. Not quite sure why they jacked the price from $179.99 to $499.99 though, unless it was to reel in a fish. Quite possible.

[saywhat04]

OMG OMG....I have been out all day!!!...


What have I missed?

What are yall talking about???



Conway is SICKENING!!!


Whats going on with Lowis and that issue???



anybody in the can yet??? (I wish)

You've missed nothing today except a yearbook from Casey's high school just supposedly sold on eBay for $499.99. :glare:

Other than that, we're just continuing discussion of that dang jail video tape from December 11th, and chuckling over the Midnight Ride of the Ricardos and Mertz's last night. :biggrin:

[GumShoeJoe]

I cannot imagine the charges against Casey being dismissed over the tape.
I admit, I did not like the sounds of what went on in the jail that day.
LE sometimes oversteps the legal line when trying to gather evidence.
It is a dangerous thing to play with a defendent's rights.

However, the tape itself is really not important, IMO.
Casey's reaction can be interpreted different ways.
She did not confess.
I think her reaction shows consciousness of guilt, but the defense spin could easily be that she was terrified. Her child was missing and then the body of a child was found close to her home. Of course she hyperventilated, blah, blah, blah.
So, I think that the tape is a red herring and that it was a bad idea on the part of LE to "set Casey up."

I hope that the judge suppresses the tape and that's the end of it.
The tape proves nothing and the prosecution does not need it.
It is walking a mine field to consider this tape as evidence against Casey.

If the tape is tossed out, what will the defense start crying about next?

It's time to move on...

jmho


I was (and am still, to some extent) also concerned over the content of those depositions, but felt a little better when I actually read it because:

The instructions were not initially to take her to medical, they were to take her somewhere she could watch TV alone, and the medical waiting room just happened to be a place that could happen.

Regarding HIPPA, the "medical" thing was a ruse and she hadn't requested medical services. There was no medical treatment actually in progress. In fact I think the person giving instruction said that if she asked for medical help, they should seek it, but otherwise, just have her watch the TV.

Now the "ruse": while seeming to be a sneaky thing to do, is LE prohibited from continuing to investigate suspects in the crime just because she happens to be spending her nights in a jail cell? I understand not talking to her without permission, but aren't they alowed to observe her? If she were staying at home, they certainly could put her under surveilance. I am not sure about this aspect and would appreciate any insight the experts here can provide.

In any case, I agree with those of you saying the possible civil rights aspects of this are the frightening part (not the supression of the tape) with regard to possibly having implications to the process and the charges themselves. But I am not so sure it is so black and white.

[True2Blues]

OMG OMG....I have been out all day!!!...


What have I missed?

What are yall talking about???



Conway is SICKENING!!!


Whats going on with Lowis and that issue???



anybody in the can yet??? (I wish)


I wonder if Cindy has brought the local police department to religion? In my mind I see them on their knees before every shift praying that they won't hear from, or about, the Anthonys every day.

[AMS]

OMG OMG....I have been out all day!!!...


What have I missed?

What are yall talking about???



Conway is SICKENING!!!


Whats going on with Lowis and that issue???



anybody in the can yet??? (I wish)


This is worth reading. Ckrdpast posted this link earlier regarding the midnight caper...AKA...the Memorial Site Sting!

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/06/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-george-and-cindy-facing-criminal-complaint-in-caylee-memorial-site-sting/


imo

[BobbysGirl]

Something does seem rather odd about the sale. In all fairness to that Seller, it does seem like they regularly sell out-of-print yearbooks of all kinds. Not quite sure why they jacked the price from $179.99 to $499.99 though, unless it was to reel in a fish. Quite possible.

Hi all, been out sick for a week. Trying to catch up w/posts.

Did someone really buy the yearbook? Sort of confused here.

I enjoyed reading many posts, had to lurk and read. Lots of laughs. TY

BG

[joolz]

I wonder if Cindy has brought the local police department to religion? In my mind I see them on their knees before every shift praying that they won't hear from, or about, the Anthonys every day.

:lol::lol: ROTFLMAO!

Cindy Anthony: The Great Unifier!!!!!

[Sun]

Hi all, been out sick for a week. Trying to catch up w/posts.

Did someone really buy the yearbook? Sort of confused here.

I enjoyed reading many posts, had to lurk and read. Lots of laughs. TY

BG

item number 110390722469 ..."appears" to have sold at a BIN price of $499.99.

[Dick Tracy]

Something does seem rather odd about the sale. In all fairness to that Seller, it does seem like they regularly sell out-of-print yearbooks of all kinds. Not quite sure why they jacked the price from $179.99 to $499.99 though, unless it was to reel in a fish. Quite possible.

Why did they jack the price up to $499? Because they got lots of free press about it. Smart marketing move if you ask me.

o/t

Reminds me of a famous ladies perfume that is out on the market. When it was brought in, it smelled good, and it was only $29.99 an oz.

It didn't sell.

They brought a famous marketing and sales consultant in, and he proclaims - We will sell it for 10 times more! $299.99 an oz!!!

Retailers couldn't keep it on the shelves.

Moral of the story? If it's really expensive, it must be worth it. Right?

[legalmania]

Some fool did click BIN ...for the full asking price of $499.99. With the media coverage that this has gotten, there will probably be five yearbooks listed within the next 24 hours. LOL

I don't understand it there are so many charities out there that need money and these people are blowing their money on this.

[Sandy001]

Baez is worried about the "clicking" he hears while meeting with Casey but Richardson says he never complained about it while at the jail. Maybe this clicking is all in Baez's head, maybe it's his two brain cells struggling to create a semi cohesive thought.

:thumbsup: That was good!!!!

[BobbysGirl]

item number 110390722469 ..."appears" to have sold at a BIN price of $499.99.

Flabbergasted! Why would someone want a yearbook of Casey. Is it her original? I thought she did not graduate. Funny. I wonder if it's hers and what students wrote in it. Too many weirds out there.

LOL

BG

[legalmania]

You've missed nothing today except a yearbook from Casey's high school just supposedly sold on eBay for $499.99. :glare:

Other than that, we're just continuing discussion of that dang jail video tape from December 11th, and chuckling over the Midnight Ride of the Ricardos and Mertz's last night. :biggrin:

Maybe Cindy bought it, she seems to be the only one who cares about Casey.

[martha]

item number 110390722469 ..."appears" to have sold at a BIN price of $499.99.
I don;t know who would buy this but everyone to his own. I would not give a penny to see a picture of casey. I can;t stand to look at her jmho

[CelticDawn]

thanks everybody....
I saw all the refs to the caper and thought those people had done SOMETHING ELSE...


but not to worry....It wont be long.....They cant go very long without making a$$es out of themselves....

[CelticDawn]

I don;t know who would buy this but everyone to his own. I would not give a penny to see a picture of casey. I can;t stand to look at her jmho

I have a few email addresses out there.....and I WILL put any answers I get from Cindy on ebay!!!.....I have children (LIVE CHILDREN) and could use the money!!!

[Dovey]

Woudn't it be great to see Cindy and George called to testify in chains after this lastest developement. Hopefully they get charged and all be guilty. They have no right to stop, steal a memorial to Caylee. After all who is Caylee to them? Their support of Casey proves they knew the day they got Casey's car with the smell of death and looking in their backyard for a body they totally knew Caylee was dead by Casey and not a Nanny, Zanny the Nanny.

Give it up C,G and Lee Anthony, most of the public knows what you have and what you are doing. I do think Casey will not get a fair trial because of what the A's have done and all the A's should be charged for obstruction.