Phil Spector gets 19 years to life for murder of actress

[My 2 Cents]

I guess Rachelle is making the interview rounds now. She appeared for her next "exclusive" interview today (6/3/09) on ABC. Here is a LINK to the video of the actual interview for those interested.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6847153

It shows a few shots inside "The Castle". IMO Phil is either VERY CHEAP or has very poor decorating taste. I know, I know - I am being tacky . . . but I can't help but think that a man who throws around $500 tips at the drop of a hat - should have replaced his burgundy "mini blinds" from the 1980s with something a little more updated. I know - I sound mean and critical.

The interview with Rachelle is such garbage IMO. She whines about her husband being tried by the media (no Rachelle - actually they never wrote about this 2nd trial) and not in the courtroom. Hmm, I thought all 12 jurors came to the conclusion that he was guilty of 2nd degree murder. She also whines that Phil is broke and will have to take out loans to get out of debt and pay for his appeal. Here's an idea Rachelle - get a job! You love him so much and you're only 28 or 29 years old - you say you're a model, actress, etc - - - get a job - you don't have any little kiddies at home to tie you down - get a job and help pay for your hubby's appeal costs. Just a thought.

[vonna]

I guess Rachelle is making the interview rounds now. She appeared for her next "exclusive" interview today (6/3/09) on ABC. Here is a LINK to the video of the actual interview for those interested.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6847153

It shows a few shots inside "The Castle". IMO Phil is either VERY CHEAP or has very poor decorating taste. I know, I know - I am being tacky . . . but I can't help but think that a man who throws around $500 tips at the drop of a hat - should have replaced his burgundy "mini blinds" from the 1980s with something a little more updated. I know - I sound mean and critical.

The interview with Rachelle is such garbage IMO. She whines about her husband being tried by the media (no Rachelle - actually they never wrote about this 2nd trial) and not in the courtroom. Hmm, I thought all 12 jurors came to the conclusion that he was guilty of 2nd degree murder. She also whines that Phil is broke and will have to take out loans to get out of debt and pay for his appeal. Here's an idea Rachelle - get a job! You love him so much and you're only 28 or 29 years old - you say you're a model, actress, etc - - - get a job - you don't have any little kiddies at home to tie you down - get a job and help pay for your hubby's appeal costs. Just a thought.

She's going to have to do some serious rehearsing as she's not very convincing.

[True2Blues]

I guess Rachelle is making the interview rounds now. She appeared for her next "exclusive" interview today (6/3/09) on ABC. Here is a LINK to the video of the actual interview for those interested.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6847153

It shows a few shots inside "The Castle". IMO Phil is either VERY CHEAP or has very poor decorating taste. I know, I know - I am being tacky . . . but I can't help but think that a man who throws around $500 tips at the drop of a hat - should have replaced his burgundy "mini blinds" from the 1980s with something a little more updated. I know - I sound mean and critical.

The interview with Rachelle is such garbage IMO. She whines about her husband being tried by the media (no Rachelle - actually they never wrote about this 2nd trial) and not in the courtroom. Hmm, I thought all 12 jurors came to the conclusion that he was guilty of 2nd degree murder. She also whines that Phil is broke and will have to take out loans to get out of debt and pay for his appeal. Here's an idea Rachelle - get a job! You love him so much and you're only 28 or 29 years old - you say you're a model, actress, etc - - - get a job - you don't have any little kiddies at home to tie you down - get a job and help pay for your hubby's appeal costs. Just a thought.

:thumbsup: Excellent suggestion! If the money was really gone, she would be too, you can bet on it.

[True2Blues]

She's going to have to do some serious rehearsing as she's not very convincing.

:laugh: She's yet to even convince me that she's as young as she claims. LOL

[Jayne]

Rachelle says, how ridiculous is that" If someone goes and kills somebody then why would they walk outside and tell someone "I think I killed somebody."
<snipped>
She's such a bonehead!
JMO

Yeah, yeah..because Chelle..PS THOUGHT he killed somebody (Lana..the lady who went to his house with him for "one drink"). he had the gun in his hand, like many times before with other more fortunate women...he sees that beautiful woman - whose name he probably couldn't even remember at that point - slumping, bloody and lifeless in his white foyer chair...and he had to tell his driver - who he probably didn't remember wasn't his "usual driver/saviour" - what just happened, at and by his own hands. If she'd shot herself, he wouldn't be saying he thought he killed somebody - he'd be crying for help that the woman who came home with him shot herself. That thought didn't cross his mind until he was at the hands of the police.

And, on the ABC flick, she stated it was an "accident". now where did she come up with that theory? :confused: So..it wasn't suicide...and she's saying it wasn't murder, but an accident? What are they going to appeal - defense's flawed theory of suicide, because it was an "accident"..whose accident? Thank goodness she didn't say it was an "accidental suicide" or I'd have barf ed all over the laptop.

jmo

j

[dref99]

I guess Rachelle is making the interview rounds now. She appeared for her next "exclusive" interview today (6/3/09) on ABC. Here is a LINK to the video of the actual interview for those interested.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6847153

It shows a few shots inside "The Castle". IMO Phil is either VERY CHEAP or has very poor decorating taste. I know, I know - I am being tacky . . . but I can't help but think that a man who throws around $500 tips at the drop of a hat - should have replaced his burgundy "mini blinds" from the 1980s with something a little more updated. I know - I sound mean and critical.

The interview with Rachelle is such garbage IMO. She whines about her husband being tried by the media (no Rachelle - actually they never wrote about this 2nd trial) and not in the courtroom. Hmm, I thought all 12 jurors came to the conclusion that he was guilty of 2nd degree murder. She also whines that Phil is broke and will have to take out loans to get out of debt and pay for his appeal. Here's an idea Rachelle - get a job! You love him so much and you're only 28 or 29 years old - you say you're a model, actress, etc - - - get a job - you don't have any little kiddies at home to tie you down - get a job and help pay for your hubby's appeal costs. Just a thought.

Presumably JF's gag order (after the interview during trial 1) lasted until sentencing - but now she has her last chance to get that 15 minutes. I keep thinking of this point made by Mrs Clarkson at the sentencing

As I sat in the courtroom I just wanted to raise my hand and say “Excuse me, your honor...May I clarify these points?”

The Clarkson's have well shown their intelligence and respect for the law. They can only visit their daughter at the cemetery. They do not go on TV and decry what they had to endure - which was so much more than Rachelle Spector will ever know or understand.

Phil Spector was a has been and Rachelle is no-one of interest. May Phil's children get anything financial remaining after the Clarksons receive their civil judgement.

jmo

PS You never sound "mean and critical" my2cents - you say it all as it is.

[dref99]

Yeah, yeah..because Chelle..PS THOUGHT he killed somebody (Lana..the lady who went to his house with him for "one drink"). he had the gun in his hand, like many times before with other more fortunate women...he sees that beautiful woman - whose name he probably couldn't even remember at that point - slumping, bloody and lifeless in his white foyer chair...and he had to tell his driver - who he probably didn't remember wasn't his "usual driver/saviour" - what just happened, at and by his own hands. If she'd shot herself, he wouldn't be saying he thought he killed somebody - he'd be crying for help that the woman who came home with him shot herself. That thought didn't cross his mind until he was at the hands of the police.

And, on the ABC flick, she stated it was an "accident". now where did she come up with that theory? :confused: So..it wasn't suicide...and she's saying it wasn't murder, but an accident? What are they going to appeal - defense's flawed theory of suicide, because it was an "accident"..whose accident? Thank goodness she didn't say it was an "accidental suicide" or I'd have barf ed all over the laptop.

jmo

j

Hi Jayne

Thing is - if you own the gun and push it into someone's mouth and then pull the trigger - how on earth can it be an accident. She doesn't seem to be helping the options for a new trial if that appeal is successful. I just hate that barf but it sure suits this situation

jmo

[barskin&co.]

Though, I here Phil's "people" are trying to get him on a Chino State Prison version of "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here." :lol:

Of, course, I meant to say, I hear.....etc.

[NotAgain]

glad I watched before I ate breakfast. great diet video. appetite is gone!

if she is 29, I am 12.

[Ellie]

Rachelle says, how ridiculous is that" If someone goes and kills somebody then why would they walk outside and tell someone "I think I killed somebody."

Here's your answer Rachelle.
Your husband was so drunk and drugged, he walked outside and told someone, "I think I killed somebody."
That was an easy question...Next???:rolleyes:
She's such a bonehead!
JMO

Yep yep, I don't think he realized the magnitude of it, OR that he could really get his a*( handed to him for it. I think he was telling ADS that he thought he killed somebody so to say "uh... yah, can ya help me out here? There's a mess that needs to be cleaned up. A big WHOOPS happened inside..." Phil didn't realize what 'really' happened until several minutes later. Then it hit him. And that's when he started cleaning up by himself. You know, wiping his prints off the gun, trying to wipe his dna off of Lana's face, etc. Thank God common sense rules around here most of the time, and thank God it ruled in the courtroom during PSII.

[Ellie]

Hey all, I have been trying to find the link to the pictures of the inside of the "castle" (I can't view video at work) and can't seem to locate anything.... anyone have anything they can PM me links-wise? Thanks! :smile:

[kennedy06]

Those old links!

I remember thinking when I heard about the photos I bet it is just beautiful, finest of granite, spa like, well then I seen the photos. Now if this would have been anyone elses home (that wasn't a multimillionaire) I probably wouldn't have blinked an eye, to each their own.... I'll admit I was a little shocked, ummm he lived a more comfortable life style physically than I imagined.....going back to the interview that was linked to on our prior thread with his three bodyguards, 10 dogs and 2 large iguanas in that house also.. but I guess there is no place like home.:huh:

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/phil_spectors_house#7912

[FallenAngel♥]

Those old links!

I remember thinking when I heard about the photos I bet it is just beautiful, finest of granite, spa like, well then I seen the photos. Now if this would have been anyone elses home (that wasn't a multimillionaire) I probably wouldn't have blinked an eye, to each their own.... I'll admit I was a little shocked, ummm he lived a more comfortable life style physically than I imagined.....going back to the interview that was linked to on our prior thread with his three bodyguards, 10 dogs and 2 large iguanas in that house also.. but I guess there is no place like home.:huh:

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/phil_spectors_house#7912

when i first saw those pictures i had to go take a shower. That Red carpet just looks like it cares all kind of germs......YUCKKKKKKKKKY

[Ellie]

Those old links!

I remember thinking when I heard about the photos I bet it is just beautiful, finest of granite, spa like, well then I seen the photos. Now if this would have been anyone elses home (that wasn't a multimillionaire) I probably wouldn't have blinked an eye, to each their own.... I'll admit I was a little shocked, ummm he lived a more comfortable life style physically than I imagined.....going back to the interview that was linked to on our prior thread with his three bodyguards, 10 dogs and 2 large iguanas in that house also.. but I guess there is no place like home.:huh:

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/phil_spectors_house#7912

Going through the pictures... picture #24-- the bedroom (with the gawd-awful 4 poster...waterbed?)--- sure looks like PS his hiding under the covers, doesn't it?! :biggrin:

[kennedy06]

Old subject I know but I don't feel so bad, ok ok I'll admit it I sort of wondered on and off it was PS! I know!...glad to know I wasn't the only one :rolleyes:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/station/tv_channels/June-3-Whats-Jen-Clicking-on-Between-Newscasts.html

The bodyguard's interview in which PS's pets were mentioned can be heard on the link below just incase anyone missed it, and since I have mentioned it in a few posts.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=6837525

Thanks
:smile:
JMO

[Ellie]

Good morning Ellie...
I have not the slightest idea how to get this to you but I do recall looking at it.
Hopefully we can somehow get it to you.
I do recall seeing a tacky looking place on the inside. It looks like a project Rachelle can concentrate on while she's counting his royalties and doing wherever your minds takes you with all Spectors friends and foes.:w00t: That woman looks a lot older than she claims she is or she has had some rough life. He!!, I think I counted 72 teeth when she was yakking how broke poor Hubby is because of these TWO trials and the appeal coming up.
APPEAL? Er, Rachelle how many people have to knock on your head to see if anyone's home.:sneaky: Phillip Spector has NO grounds for appeal. (That will save you some bucks right there)
In addition, she can use that money to redecorate and it's my suggestion she start in that foyer of his. It doesn't look any different than it did when Spector shot and killed Lana.
JMO

... hm. Somehow I don't think RS has the money to redecorate, do you? Maybe if she started selling those OLD TELEVISIONS that Phil seems to have so many of... Well lord knows she's gonna have to start selling something just to keep the bills paid and avoid foreclosure, ya think? She will be evicted, probably (??) once the civil trial is over... how does that work? Will the house be sold to raise funds for the Clarkson's civil trial?

[barskin&co.]

... hm. Somehow I don't think RS has the money to redecorate, do you? Maybe if she started selling those OLD TELEVISIONS that Phil seems to have so many of... Well lord knows she's gonna have to start selling something just to keep the bills paid and avoid foreclosure, ya think? She will be evicted, probably (??) once the civil trial is over... how does that work? Will the house be sold to raise funds for the Clarkson's civil trial?

The house will be sold to raise funds for the appeal, Ellie. That's all they care about.

[Anakerie]

Here's an entertaining blog post about Phil, the trial and everything.

http://sedoniasunset.blogspot.com/2009/06/bye-bye-phil.html

[NotAgain]

Rachelle says, how ridiculous is that" If someone goes and kills somebody then why would they walk outside and tell someone "I think I killed somebody."

Here's your answer Rachelle.
Your husband was so drunk and drugged, he walked outside and told someone, "I think I killed somebody."
That was an easy question...Next???:rolleyes:
She's such a bonehead!
JMO

i think it is ridiculous that he immediately walked outside and said 'i think i killed somebody'...... i would have called 911 first :scared:

[Ellie]

The house will be sold to raise funds for the appeal, Ellie. That's all they care about.

But...but...don't they have to have "grounds for an appeal"?? Or can they just do it? I mean can PS spend all kinds of money on an appeal that a judge won't even hear? Or how will that work?

[bearwds]

The house will be sold to raise funds for the appeal, Ellie. That's all they care about.

**********************************

Hey barskin w/company...!!

My understanding is that the Spector "estate" is worth $50m.

Guess that includes royalities and portfolios.

Don't have the Link for that though....just memory.


bearwds

[barskin&co.]

But...but...don't they have to have "grounds for an appeal"?? Or can they just do it? I mean can PS spend all kinds of money on an appeal that a judge won't even hear? Or how will that work?

"I mean can PS spend all kinds of money on an appeal that a judge won't even hear? " Oh, yes, he can, and he will. His lawyers are going to say that Judge Fidler was wrong to allow the PBA witnesses. He will lose, but he will spend every penny he has trying. There is nothing in the law that says a defendant cannot try to appeal his conviction, no matter how vain his hope might be.

[Ellie]

"I mean can PS spend all kinds of money on an appeal that a judge won't even hear? " Oh, yes, he can, and he will. His lawyers are going to say that Judge Fidler was wrong to allow the PBA witnesses. He will lose, but he will spend every penny he has trying. There is nothing in the law that says a defendant cannot try to appeal his conviction, no matter how vain his hope might be.

Ugh.. you are probably right. You know though? Spending every dime he's got so that Lana's family gets nothing will be the LAST nasty thing that little man ever does. He will go down in history (and will die in prison) with a bad reputation. He will be known as the murdering millionaire who left nothing for his children (well who knows, maybe Nicole will get something). It will be very interesting to me to see what Rachelle's next move is. I wonder if, and how much, she's getting paid for these little interviews she's making people give her. (You all know that she sent an email out to a bunch of people telling them to do all the tv and radio interviews they can... it's all at Michelle Blaine's site-- http://mcontrolblogs.blogspot.com/ . And I wonder if she's eyeing things in the house here and there thinking "I wonder how much I could get for that...."

[NotAgain]

Can anyone that Spector owes money to put a lien (s) on his house.:confused: I would think they can.
JMO

Don't think so.... only a contractor who has done work on the house, a lending institution if house used as collateral, etc.

[NotAgain]

what would you call the decorating style of spector's house?

early asylum?

[NotAgain]

**********************************

Hey barskin w/company...!!

My understanding is that the Spector "estate" is worth $50m.

Guess that includes royalities and portfolios.

Don't have the Link for that though....just memory.


bearwds

let me break down the $50m for you.....



house $500k
songbook $49.5m

i wonder how many artists never sued him for royalties.

[kennedy06]

I noted on Michelle's interesting blog (comments on there also!) a remark about 50 million in assets at the end of a blog about the Mrs. S., but yet the bride has them almost pennyless it seems. No offense to her but she doesn't look like someone that has see the better side of a million in a while. Is the remark about money by her just something to begin the spin for the civil trial or is it possible PS just spent, invested and and tipped his way to the poor house?? :shrug:

Oh I know we shouldn't discuss his worth but the civil trial is approaching and since the Mrs. brought it up first well then...

JMO

[vonna]

i think it is ridiculous that he immediately walked outside and said 'i think i killed somebody'...... i would have called 911 first :scared:

But he needed time to alter the crime scene!

[kennedy06]

But he needed time to alter the crime scene!

My reaction was well hun don't you know there was spatter on the white jacket. The reporter mentioning Mrs. said it was an accident well.....I don't think PS went for an accident defense from what I recall, he went for a she committed suicide defense. JMO

[NotAgain]

snippedhttp://mcontrolblogs.blogspot.com/ . And I wonder if she's eyeing things in the house here and there thinking "I wonder how much I could get for that...."



wonder how long until the PS hair hits ebay? :w00t:

[vonna]

wonder how long until the PS hair hits ebay? :w00t:

She could do OK if she lists them when Halloween is approaching.

[True2Blues]

wonder how long until the PS hair hits ebay? :w00t:


Oh, Ick! Ick! Ick! :laugh::scared:

[Nic99]

I noted on Michelle's interesting blog (comments on there also!) a remark about 50 million in assets at the end of a blog about the Mrs. S., but yet the bride has them almost pennyless it seems. No offense to her but she doesn't look like someone that has see the better side of a million in a while. Is the remark about money by her just something to begin the spin for the civil trial or is it possible PS just spent, invested and and tipped his way to the poor house?? :shrug:

Oh I know we shouldn't discuss his worth but the civil trial is approaching and since the Mrs. brought it up first well then...

JMO

I would have thought most of Phil's money has been taken up with the huge bills of his defence team over 2 long trials. We all know how much these people charge; you can't even sneeze without paying £100 or dollars.

Out of interest, how do you feel someone who has seen the better side of a million should look? I think she looks just fine and yeah, maybe she does look a bit older than her years, but I imagine those 2 trials have taken their toll, as they would. I wonder what people would be saying if she did 'look a million dollars' at the moment; not good comments I suspect. Can't win really can she.

jmo

[vonna]

Nope, Early American Garage Sale!! :wink:

I would have guessed Early Salvation Army.

[hiitsme]

I would have guessed Early Salvation Army.

How about tacky shacky! That place gives me the creeps. It resembles the home of the Munsters. :scared:

[kennedy06]

I would have thought most of Phil's money has been taken up with the huge bills of his defence team over 2 long trials. We all know how much these people charge; you can't even sneeze without paying £100 or dollars.

Out of interest, how do you feel someone who has seen the better side of a million should look? I think she looks just fine and yeah, maybe she does look a bit older than her years, but I imagine those 2 trials have taken their toll, as they would. I wonder what people would be saying if she did 'look a million dollars' at the moment; not good comments I suspect. Can't win really can she.

jmo

Quite to the contrary, during the beginning of the 2nd trial or a hearing before that, I had seen a photo of her and did pay her a compliment on this board. I didn't know who she was a first glance. I know exactly which photo it was to this day. She had been through years of dealing with this situation at that time. When she married Phil and inserted herself openly into the trial she made herself a part of the public arena, she made her bed and the expressions of the court of public opinion is a part of lying down in it. She was a model apparently and having had a small photo in playboy I would think she was preparing her life in the public arena at that time also.

You think she looks older than her years as your post states?

I guess that proves she can't win.


JMO

[NotAgain]

I would have guessed Early Salvation Army.

salvation army has more class

[NotAgain]

How about tacky shacky! That place gives me the creeps. It resembles the home of the Munsters. :scared:

A cluttered Munsters. How could anyone sleep in that house. The castle is in need of an Extreme Home Makeover.

In the news special, I did like the piano.... but it would need a case of Lysol for me to touch it

[hiitsme]

A cluttered Munsters. How could anyone sleep in that house. The castle is in need of an Extreme Home Makeover.

In the news special, I did like the piano.... but it would need a case of Lysol for me to touch it

I agree! Even under contract, I'm sure Rachelle took a step back when she entered that place. How many years later and she has not tried to make her house her home? That, in itself, speaks volumes about this marriage.

[oodi]

what would you call the decorating style of spector's house?

early asylum?

Filthy!

Did anyone notice the carpet under the pool table? It was brown (as opposed to red) from all the dust bunnies that had been left there for God knows how long.

[My 2 Cents]

This looks like the same article that I had LINKed to a few days ago (same picture of Phil & Chelle, same website UPI.com) - - But it ISN'T - - - this particular article was written & released TODAY, 6/4/09. It contains an interesting "tid bit" of information that I have NEVER realized before. Perhaps all of you have known this, but I don't think I had ever heard this before:

Rachelle explains during the INSIDE EDITION interview a few days ago, that SHE and PHIL were actually MARRIED (exchanged their wedding vows) in the same spot were LANA WAS KILLED. In "The Castle's" FOYER.

ARE YOU FRICK'IN KIDDING ME????? . . . . I AM SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!!!! :w00t:

The house is over 10,000 square feet and they pick that part of the home to get married in. They probably had a guest or two sit in the chair that is an exact replica of the one Lana was slumped in and bleed all over after Phil, the groom, shot her in the mouth.

Rachelle was quoted as saying that she was NOT superstitious about getting married in the room where Clarkson died, "she had her mind on happier things." (Like what Chelle? . . . You're Wedding Night in the romantic 1970s 4 poster pine waterbed upstairs in the Master bedroom? Gross!)

His "castle" is situated on almost 3 acres of property. It looks like there are huge pine trees and foliage all over the place. They were married in September - beautiful time of year in So California . . . SO GET MARRIED OUTSIDE. Decorate a beautiful area and set up chairs for the guests outside and have the ceremony performed in a pretty location in the backyard. I WOULD NEVER GET MARRIED IN THE SAME FOYER WHERE A WOMAN HAD BEEN MURDERED IN MY HOME . . . AND, OH YEAH, MY HUSBAND IS CHARGED WITH THAT MURDER AND THE TRIAL IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN A FEW MONTHS AFTER WE SAY, "I DO". After seeing some of the photos and video footage of the inside of that house, there's not a lot of places I'd agree to use as the backdrop for my wedding. However, the FOYER would be the LAST PLACE I would agree to. I mean . . . I'd pick the room with the lovely iguana in it before I'd pick the foyer. Can you picture an overlay of the crime scene photos - with Phil & Chelle's wedding pics? What a sick individual - - - make that, (2) sick individuals.

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2009/06/04/Wife-says-she-wed-Spector-in-death-room/UPI-31411244146991/

[shvrmetimber]

This looks like the same article that I had LINKed to a few days ago (same picture of Phil & Chelle, same website UPI.com) - - But it ISN'T - - - this particular article was written & released TODAY, 6/4/09. It contains an interesting "tid bit" of information that I have NEVER realized before. Perhaps all of you have known this, but I don't think I had ever heard this before:

Rachelle explains during the INSIDE EDITION interview a few days ago, that SHE and PHIL were actually MARRIED (exchanged their wedding vows) in the same spot were LANA WAS KILLED. In "The Castle's" FOYER.

ARE YOU FRICK'IN KIDDING ME????? . . . . I AM SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!!!! :w00t:

The house is over 10,000 square feet and they pick that part of the home to get married in. They probably had a guest or two sit in the chair that is an exact replica of the one Lana was slumped in and bleed all over after Phil, the groom, shot her in the mouth.

Rachelle was quoted as saying that she was NOT superstitious about getting married in the room where Clarkson died, "she had her mind on happier things." (Like what Chelle? . . . You're Wedding Night in the romantic 1970s 4 poster pine waterbed upstairs in the Master bedroom? Gross!)

His "castle" is situated on almost 3 acres of property. It looks like there are huge pine trees and foliage all over the place. They were married in September - beautiful time of year in So California . . . SO GET MARRIED OUTSIDE. Decorate a beautiful area and set up chairs for the guests outside and have the ceremony performed in a pretty location in the backyard. I WOULD NEVER GET MARRIED IN THE SAME FOYER WHERE A WOMAN HAD BEEN MURDERED IN MY HOME . . . AND, OH YEAH, MY HUSBAND IS CHARGED WITH THAT MURDER AND THE TRIAL IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN A FEW MONTHS AFTER WE SAY, "I DO". After seeing some of the photos and video footage of the inside of that house, there's not a lot of places I'd agree to use as the backdrop for my wedding. However, the FOYER would be the LAST PLACE I would agree to. I mean . . . I'd pick the room with the lovely iguana in it before I'd pick the foyer. Can you picture an overlay of the crime scene photos - with Phil & Chelle's wedding pics? What a sick individual - - - make that, (2) sick individuals.

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2009/06/04/Wife-says-she-wed-Spector-in-death-room/UPI-31411244146991/


.....ok, so tell us...How do you REALLY feel about this?!! :laugh:

[kellabeck]

First of all, there's a precedent for having a wedding on the bloody spot of the killer's act. I refer to the wedding of the hitman to his girlfriend as performed by widower and hitman-arranger Rabbi Neulander.

It's a thumb in the eye of the survivors. And not much different, IMO, from trashing the victim, blaming her, claiming she was drunk, stole a bottle of tequila from the HoB, brought her own gun and danced around with it pointed at her head. Then later claiming she-- and the other women who testified-- was crazy, suicidal, a bit nutty and very rhymes-with-nutty.

How is it different? I see it as all of a piece.

[tartangirl]

Another interview for RS. Some of the same as we have been reading this week, but juuuuuuust a little bit more. :wink: It sounds like a real wife missing her husband and partner in life. Hmmmm. Ya think so? ... One has to wonder ~

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana


http://67.59.172.92/article/More_Local_News/More_Local_News/Trust_Me_Hes_Not_A_Monster/64757

[Ellie]

Another interview for RS. Some of the same as we have been reading this week, but juuuuuuust a little bit more. :wink: It sounds like a real wife missing her husband and partner in life. Hmmmm. Ya think so? ... One has to wonder ~

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana


http://67.59.172.92/article/More_Local_News/More_Local_News/Trust_Me_Hes_Not_A_Monster/64757

Wow.... that article...she's... almost... convincing. Wow. I wonder what kind of feedback Michelle would have.....

[kennedy06]

Thank you Tartangirl, and My2cents for your links.Hang on guys, I think I'm finally speechless...:ohmy:

at the moment all I can hear is Sonny singing and the beat goes on...I still think the song title Its a strange strange world we live in master jack, maybe more appropriate....:rolleyes:

JMO

Some of the words to that song Master Jack, I don't know I just find very profound at this moment in time. Sometimes I'm just easily amused and have to laugh, other times so disugsted, what a mix of emotions I can feel at one time on the same subject. JMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0WvXpyufT8

[kennedy06]

I followed the Anna Nicole hearing and many links were brought up about her and the older Mr. Marshall and their love, meetings and intimate moments in time. I had the same reactions as this situation, I don't know what to think sometimes. I guess I just don't understand...I feel sometimes like I have accidentally started watching a home movie I wasn't meant to see, but the host put it on for the world to see anyway. JMO

[NotAgain]

RS as CFO and VP of the PS business. All I can say is :scared::scared:


(I say that as someone whose experience is finance/accounting)

[hiitsme]

Who runs "team spector" myspace page? Whoever wrote this is a maroon. The hard working publicist got the gag ordered lifted? Only in your pea brain would you think this. The trial is over is why it was lifted. Hello? Never heard of gag orders during a murder trial? Common, yes. bonehead! Judge was over zealous..your post is. Phil Spector was sentenced to prison because he MURDERED LANA. This is what happens when you take another life. Get it? Thank you for once again proving the Spector fans have no respect for life nor authority. The rest of the world is laughing at you, not with you.

Oh and tell Rachelle she can't blame the media that didn't cover the second trial for convicting her husband and dares to use them now when it suits her. Hypocritical much? omo

:rolleyes:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=192314775&blogId=493086889

Friday, June 05, 2009
It's Media time!
Due to Phil Spector's hard working publicist, and the gag order that judge Fidler used to silence the truth in Phil's trials has been lifted, Rachelle is able to speak openly about their relationship and the miscarriage of justice that went on in both trials by an over zealous judge and District Attorney who refused to be the fourth laughing stock in the Los Angeles Courts. Judge Fidler and D.A. (Dumb-a**) Alan Jackson clearly saw a semi-retired celebrity who fell victim to having a house guest who had a horrible accident in his home as "payback time"! If Spector didn't do it, they'll make certain that they'll find any women with a thirty-year old grudge against Phil Spector and have them spew their undocumented fiction to an uneducated jury, and do their best to make sure the jurors see not the evidence that proves his innocence, but in their minds see how he could've done it, and could be guilty. Isn't this scary?? To think that any one of us could be convicted to life in prison by a crooked judge and District Attorney, not for something we did, but for something we could've done??

This is truly desperation! A lethal dose of fiction which is not helpful to the convicted murderer at all.

[spydernweb2006]

Who runs "team spector" myspace page? Whoever wrote this is a maroon. The hard working publicist got the gag ordered lifted? Only in your pea brain would you think this. The trial is over is why it was lifted. Hello? Never heard of gag orders during a murder trial? Common, yes. bonehead! Judge was over zealous..your post is. Phil Spector was sentenced to prison because he MURDERED LANA. This is what happens when you take another life. Get it? Thank you for once again proving the Spector fans have no respect for life nor authority. The rest of the world is laughing at you, not with you.

Oh and tell Rachelle she can't blame the media that didn't cover the second trial for convicting her husband and dares to use them now when it suits her. Hypocritical much? omo

:rolleyes:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=192314775&blogId=493086889

Friday, June 05, 2009
It's Media time!
Due to Phil Spector's hard working publicist, and the gag order that judge Fidler used to silence the truth in Phil's trials has been lifted, Rachelle is able to speak openly about their relationship and the miscarriage of justice that went on in both trials by an over zealous judge and District Attorney who refused to be the fourth laughing stock in the Los Angeles Courts. Judge Fidler and D.A. (Dumb-a**) Alan Jackson clearly saw a semi-retired celebrity who fell victim to having a house guest who had a horrible accident in his home as "payback time"! If Spector didn't do it, they'll make certain that they'll find any women with a thirty-year old grudge against Phil Spector and have them spew their undocumented fiction to an uneducated jury, and do their best to make sure the jurors see not the evidence that proves his innocence, but in their minds see how he could've done it, and could be guilty. Isn't this scary?? To think that any one of us could be convicted to life in prison by a crooked judge and District Attorney, not for something we did, but for something we could've done??

Id LOVE to see Judge Fidler and Alan Jackson sue the crap outta Rachelle Spector and anyone else who is running around calling them names because a jury found Phil GUILTY! Rachelle got by with a few antics during the trial but now that its over Id love to see her pay for the slander that comes out of her mouth. She can live in all the denail she wants but she has NO RIGHT to slander, defame and call people nasty names.


JMHO

Hugs,
Spyder

[tartangirl]

The keeper of the myspace page..:glare:


They certainly are not seeking to surround themselves with excellence are they?


~as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

[barskin&co.]

Wait, so what the defense presented at trial as an act of suicide by a woman who had never before shown any suicidal ideations or behavior but she had reached the elderly age of 40....now it's a "horrible accident," huh?

[barskin&co.]

I've always heard it was Rachelle, but when she was in court acting like the devoted wifey someone else was writing on it. Rachelle may be the keeper but this person is speaking for Rachelle. It sounds more like Nat, the one with no brain cells left because her ex choked her for 7 mos. I'd love to see Alan the Judge make her answering for her ignorant comments. Sue the pants off of her.

omo

You know, you would think that Rachelle, secretly, would be happy about the verdict and Phil's incarceration. After all, she gets everything she wanted out of this, er...union, without the major disadvantage, i.e. having to live with him.

[vonna]

So sad and disappointed that poor phil was convicted. Why, they had plans.
She said they were planning to buy a farm up in Northern California.
She also said, Phil doesn't want her selling the castle. (The dungeon):rolleyes:
jmo

Castle might be appropriate - only in this case instead of having a moat it had an old goat.

[tartangirl]

How much longer will she pretend to be the devoted wifey? When he has to cut her off for good?

omo

If her feelings are not real, this could all be a little lead up PR to the release of her own recordings of songs that PS wrote for celebs like Celine Dion, Madonna and Trisha Yearwood. :unsure: Page 2 of this link

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-rachelle-spector5-2009jun05,0,7342546.story?page=2

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

[Anakerie]

Phil is on the road apparently...

TMZ is reporting that Phil was picked up and will soon be at North Kern State Prison near Bakersfield...
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/05/phil-spector-road-trippin/

I guess this means that his little wifey won't be visiting so often now..

As for her recordings, I remember reading a while back that the reason they never got released in the first place was that Phil thought Rachelle's voice was awful... :shrug:

[Nic99]

So pleased he was able to keep his wig for the new mug shot. Keeps all them vultures at bay:thumbsup:

jmo

[hiitsme]

Castle might be appropriate - only in this case instead of having a moat it had an old goat.

Vonna, you're a hoot! I certainly hope you continue to follow other trials. Your awesome subtle sense of humor and common sense are so refreshing.

[Nic99]

Can't wait to read more love notes to Phil on his team spector page. <puke> Maybe Phil will realize how much she loves him so, divorce Rachelle and marry her. What a hoot that would be, huh? And then he woke up.

omo

:w00t:

Ya Kool Aid turned sour....... sheesh. Back to work before they find out or they might think bit strange:tonguewag:

[oodi]

Castle might be appropriate - only in this case instead of having a moat it had an old goat.

LOL... that is too funny!!!

[Nic99]

Nice try, sorry you couldn't come up with anything better. Maybe next time since you are always watching. You are one devoted fan I tell ya. Work already has your number. Do you really think they don't see where you go on the server? Ooopsy, didn't think about that did you?

omo

:tonguewag:

Actually when I'm at work I work; very busy and rewarding job you see. As you know I am in the UK and there is a time difference..:tonguewag:

[True2Blues]

Phil is on the road apparently...

TMZ is reporting that Phil was picked up and will soon be at North Kern State Prison near Bakersfield...
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/05/phil-spector-road-trippin/

I guess this means that his little wifey won't be visiting so often now..

As for her recordings, I remember reading a while back that the reason they never got released in the first place was that Phil thought Rachelle's voice was awful... :shrug:

Good! PS is taking his first (shackled) steps into the rest of his life. I'm looking forward to the mug shot.

[NotAgain]

:lol::lol: so good



Castle might be appropriate - only in this case instead of having a moat it had an old goat.

[NotAgain]

Hey, hey...
I was listening to RS and she said "Phil said, he didn't want to sell the house." Did she change her mind? Old Philly gonna be ann oooyyyed!
:ohmy:
jmo


probably said he didn't like being in the big house......

just like ps said to de souza... somebody killed herself barf

[vonna]

I clearly heard her say it was an accident. At least he confided in his wife. Keep hitting those talk shows and interviews Rachelle. You're doing real good.
jmo

She certainly is. Isn't amazing how the truth will slip out from time to time amidst all those lies?

[kennedy06]

Well it seems NKS does have 2 preeminent gangs, RC inmates visit through glass, well it is sort of a cold bleak looking facility. So I take it they don't think PS is as crazy or as sick as many thought. Not a medical facility. JMO I wouldn't be surprised to find out they have him teaching a music course if they offer college courses for their main line prisoners. This isn't Alcatraz or Joliet it appears, at least this place for this point in time for him but I'm sure it won't be a picnic either. Will have to see if Lockup has a show on it or maybe utube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kern_State_Prison

[NotAgain]

Well it seems NKS does have 2 preeminent gangs, RC inmates visit through glass, well it is sort of a cold bleak looking facility. So I take it they don't think PS is as crazy or as sick as many thought. Not a medical facility. JMO I wouldn't be surprised to find out they have him teaching a music course if they offer college courses for their main line prisoners. This isn't Alcatraz or Joliet it appears, at least this place for this point in time for him but I'm sure it won't be a picnic either. Will have to see if Lockup has a show on it or maybe utube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kern_State_Prison
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interesting link. thanks

[vonna]

\


interesting link. thanks

Yes it was. I see that overcrowding has necessitated bunk beds. Since Spector is so accustomed to stairs - maybe he will get an upper bunk.

[hiitsme]

Ya Kool Aid turned sour....... sheesh. Back to work before they find out or they might think bit strange:tonguewag:

Nic, You are an embarrassment to authentic British humor. Your attempt to portray yourself as something you're not is laughable.

[FallenAngel♥]

Ok i'm ready to see the mugshot :thumbsup:

[bearwds]

Well it seems NKS does have 2 preeminent gangs, RC inmates visit through glass, well it is sort of a cold bleak looking facility. So I take it they don't think PS is as crazy or as sick as many thought. Not a medical facility. JMO I wouldn't be surprised to find out they have him teaching a music course if they offer college courses for their main line prisoners. This isn't Alcatraz or Joliet it appears, at least this place for this point in time for him but I'm sure it won't be a picnic either. Will have to see if Lockup has a show on it or maybe utube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Kern_State_Prison

***************************************

Kern, huh..????

woo-woo....guessed right..!!

Now, 2nd part of guess was Vacaville (in about 6-8 weeks).

I don't know what "classification" entails, maybe some of you do..?? How much brains does it take to pull weeds or sweep/buff the floor..??


bearwds

[True2Blues]

I didn'd mean Burbank...Bakersfield! Good thing I got my eyes checked! the new glasses should help.

The place doesn't look too bad, but at least it's still a prison and he had to go there shackled!

He'll go everywhere shackled from now on. Isn't that a comforting thought?

[Nic99]

It is funny. Such a bad job trying to convince us she is from the UK. I don't get it. No point if you can't pull it off and most know who you are anyway.

Claiming she had to work just to come back with your extra nic was even more laughable. She couldn't have been more obvious. LMAO

omo

What are you talking about. I AM from the UK and take great offence to that statement. What proof do you need, fire away, I am happy to answer; I have nothing to hide. JUST because I support PS; you do not like my posts, well grow up and live with the fact that people do have different opinions and this is NOT just a PS is guilty thread. Some of us believe PS is innocent and are allowed to post here; live with it.......

[Anakerie]

So pleased he was able to keep his wig for the new mug shot. Keeps all them vultures at bay:thumbsup:

jmo
What new mug shot? I haven't seen a new one yet.. He won't get that new "portrait" until he process in to the Kern prison... We'll probably get to see it this coming week. (And I'm sure it will be MINUS the wig.)

[True2Blues]

***************************************

Kern, huh..????

woo-woo....guessed right..!!

Now, 2nd part of guess was Vacaville (in about 6-8 weeks).

I don't know what "classification" entails, maybe some of you do..?? How much brains does it take to pull weeds or sweep/buff the floor..??


bearwds


You don't honestly think they're going to make PS work do you? Prisoners should all have to work for their keep, as far as I'm concerned, but they don't have to anymore. They get more rights than a lot of people who haven't broken the law.

If they tried to make PS work I see a fit in the making. The first thing he'll probably do is ask for a copy of the regulations to see how many he can try to bend to suit him.

I'd classify him as whiner/trouble maker, but that's just me. :laugh:

[True2Blues]

What new mug shot? I haven't seen a new one yet.. He won't get that new "portrait" until he process in to the Kern prison... We'll probably get to see it this coming week. (And I'm sure it will be MINUS the wig.)

There isn't a new one yet. Like you say, there hasn't been time yet, he only got shipped out today. He definitely won't have a wig.

[Nic99]

There isn't a new one yet. Like you say, there hasn't been time yet, he only got shipped out today. He definitely won't have a wig.

Why does it matter SO much to posters on here whether PS is wearing his weave or not. In the big scheme of things I would think that would be a matter not important at all.... Hey, maybe that's me being British and only caring that true justice should be sought in this case and will be done in the appeal I am sure. So looking forward to that:thumbsup:

[vonna]

Why does it matter SO much to posters on here whether PS is wearing his weave or not. In the big scheme of things I would think that would be a matter not important at all.... Hey, maybe that's me being British and only caring that true justice should be sought in this case and will be done in the appeal I am sure. So looking forward to that:thumbsup:

Justice has been done. You live with that. As for the wigs - people in Britain are accustomed to Barristers wearing them in courtrooms - NOT their clients. We are not - so we are amused.

[Nic99]

She thought the picture on TMZ was his mug shot. We all have to wait and yes, he will be wigless. His fans shouldn't look if it upsets them.

omo

Uhh when did I say that. No, I didn't and I never said that.... I am not upset at all, it is you who is making such a big thing about it and I am posting the 'other side', which you clearly can't accept. Well as I said before live with it, because others believe he is innocent and are allowed our opinions without being accused of doing silly things we didn't do. I never said the mug shot was the link on TMZ. Look back:tongueside:

[Anakerie]

Why does it matter SO much to posters on here whether PS is wearing his weave or not. In the big scheme of things I would think that would be a matter not important at all.... Hey, maybe that's me being British and only caring that true justice should be sought in this case and will be done in the appeal I am sure. So looking forward to that:thumbsup:

Uhm.. Excuse me, but you were the one who brought up the wig/weave thing in a "new" mugshot that you thought you saw.

Nic99 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/member.php?u=149474)
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 66


New mug shot
So pleased he was able to keep his wig for the new mug shot. Keeps all them vultures at bay:thumbsup:

jmo
It doesn't matter anyway. Phil will not be allowed to wear his wig/weave/whatever because it is considered to be a "disguise". Perhaps they do things differently in the UK, but unfortunately for you, Phil will be incarcerated here in California. He will have to adhere to the rules that the State of California has in place for prisoners.

By the way, the appeal you are so gleefully anticipating will also have to adhere to the laws and rules here in California. And that means that Phil won't be released from his sentence just because his fans think he should be free.

[Nic99]

Justice has been done. You live with that. As for the wigs - people in Britain are accustomed to Barristers wearing them in courtrooms - NOT their clients. We are not - so we are amused.

Yes, Barristers in Britain wear wigs and a great friend of mine, who was a Barrister and now is a Pastor in America used to wear one so I know about that. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with clients wearing them, no matter where you are in the world.

[Anakerie]

Uhh when did I say that. No, I didn't and I never said that.... I am not upset at all, it is you who is making such a big thing about it and I am posting the 'other side', which you clearly can't accept. Well as I said before live with it, because others believe he is innocent and are allowed our opinions without being accused of doing silly things we didn't do. I never said the mug shot was the link on TMZ. Look back:tongueside:
So please share a link to what you think is his new mugshot... :rolleyes:

[FallenAngel♥]

A SEX GOD.......................OMG


barf



http://www.nypost.com/seven/06052009/news/nationalnews/wife__spector_is_a_rock_hard_sex_god_172768.htm

[Nic99]

Hi vonna,
Yes, justice WAS served! And...How sweet it is! :thumbsup:

Enjoy, while it lasts :rolleyes:

[Nic99]

We were commenting on the future mugshot that no one has seen yet. Why is one soo worried if Phil will be wigless? Who cares. He is bald. Deal with it.

If one were to live in the UK, you would not be able to wear your wig either.

Good point about the appeal. That is all they say too. Free Phil..yeah why? What valid reason could be there? <crickets>

omo

Totally agree; deal with it and don't ridicule it.... There are more important things:thumbsup:

[True2Blues]

Why does it matter SO much to posters on here whether PS is wearing his weave or not. In the big scheme of things I would think that would be a matter not important at all.... Hey, maybe that's me being British and only caring that true justice should be sought in this case and will be done in the appeal I am sure. So looking forward to that:thumbsup:

Because it is another confirmation that PS is in the prison system and starting his new life behind bars, where those of us who feel True Justice has been done, believe he belongs. He put justice off for 6 long years and a little humiliation is a small price to pay for murdering an innocent woman.

We like knowing he's paying for his crime, and we want to know he's being treated like every other murderer. It doesn't matter in the big scheme of things, no one said it does. It's just one more satisfying little detail.

Why does it matter SO much to you what we want to see?

[Anakerie]

Enjoy, while it lasts :rolleyes:
Hmmm... 19 years to life. Once we get a look at the new CDC mugshot, we can forget about the little has-been for 19 years at the very least. Oh, yeah, we might get a little news item a few years from now about an appeal or something, but it won't be anytime soon... No matter what Rachelle tells you and the other fans.. She can't file an appeal.. It takes an ATTORNEY to do that filing.

[Nic99]

Hmmm... 19 years to life. Once we get a look at the new CDC mugshot, we can forget about the little has-been for 19 years at the very least. Oh, yeah, we might get a little news item a few years from now about an appeal or something, but it won't be anytime soon... No matter what Rachelle tells you and the other fans.. She can't file an appeal.. It takes an ATTORNEY to do that filing.

Yup and the attorney has filed it, so won't be long. Justice for Phil:thumbsup:

[coinoutlet]

Enjoy, while it lasts :rolleyes:

The unfortunate thing is that Harvey won't last the 19 years minimum of his very appropriate sentence. IMO

[True2Blues]

A SEX GOD.......................OMG


barf


http://www.nypost.com/seven/06052009/news/nationalnews/wife__spector_is_a_rock_hard_sex_god_172768.htm

I know I said it before, but I repeat, Those two deserve each other.

She needs to get a grip though. I know she's loving the spotlight, but she really should at least try to keep her tales the same.:rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

Yup and the attorney has filed it, so won't be long. Justice for Phil:thumbsup:

They've filed their intent to appeal the sentence, but they haven't filed the actual appeal yet, that's what they're working on now.

[True2Blues]

She really has no class. I'm sure everyone in NY is laughing at her outlandish claims of a great sex life with Phil.

omo

:rolleyes:


In between loud EEeeeeewwwwwww! exclaimations! :laugh:

[kennedy06]

She really has no class. I'm sure everyone in NY is laughing at her outlandish claims of a great sex life with Phil.

omo

:rolleyes:

I can't imagine the laughing about town now, aw geesh where is the "class".:rolleyes:
JMO

[Nic99]

She really has no class. I'm sure everyone in NY is laughing at her outlandish claims of a great sex life with Phil.

omo

:rolleyes:

Yup, they love each other and they so deserve each other. What is so outlandish about a married couple having sex in America?? Age makes no difference, it is how you feel about a person.

[Anakerie]

Yup and the attorney has filed it, so won't be long. Justice for Phil:thumbsup:
Hmm.. I must have missed that announcement.. Could you please provide a link about the attorney filing the appeal already?

[True2Blues]

Yup, they love each other and they so deserve each other. What is so outlandish about a married couple having sex in America?? Age makes no difference, it is how you feel about a person.

I feel that people of any age should keep their sex lives to themselves. Of course that requires class, thus these interviews. Sex is no proof of love, it's proof of sex.

[True2Blues]

I think the lady protests too much!
Now that PS is not so close to her and has a real intense set of new surroundings to deal with, we might not read so many fluff pieces about the loving couple. :wink:

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~


Well, she can pet the wigs if she gets lonely. :biggrin:

[vonna]

Yup and the attorney has filed it, so won't be long. Justice for Phil:thumbsup:

Do people in the UK tell time differently than we do? It won't be long? By whose measure??? Appeals take years to be heard,....before they are turned down because they are without merit....like this one.
Hi, NM. Good to see ya.

[Nic99]

Hmm.. I must have missed that announcement.. Could you please provide a link about the attorney filing the appeal already?

Hmmmm.... there hasn't been an official announcement, but will be shortly, so watch this space:thumbup:

[kennedy06]

Hmmmm.... there hasn't been an official announcement, but will be shortly, so watch this space:thumbup:

Nic I hate to hurt your feelings but I believe that came from the twitter that was impersonating PS. I watched what they wrote, I read the tweet about the supposed appeal announcement that they posted and also the tweet that the media would soon be writing about it. I copied a few of the tweets. So if you are getting your information from another in England that was twittering him, you may want to question their knowledge or possible source of the story, sorry.

JMO

If I'm wrong I will be the first to apologize, but I don't think I am. JMO

:thumbup:

[Nic99]

Nic I hate to hurt your feelings but I believe that came from the twitter that was impersonating PS. I watched what he wrote, I read the appeal announcement he posted and that the tweet that the media would soon be writing about it. I copied a few of the tweets. So if it is coming from another in England that was twittering him, you may want to question their knowledge or possible source of the story, sorry.

JMO

Hey Kennedy, no you haven't hurt my feelings. They come from a very reliable source which tells me the appeal has already been filed, so watch this space..... Its nothing to do with the obviously false Twitter site....

[kennedy06]

Hey Kennedy, no you haven't hurt my feelings. They come from a very reliable source which tells me the appeal has already been filed, so watch this space..... Its nothing to do with the obviously false Twitter site....

Then if it is true the twitter had to be someone with inside information, that you and your source are privy to also. Then who was the twitter I guess everyone would like to know? JMO

[Nic99]

Then if it is true the twitter had to be someone with inside information, that you and your source are privy to also. Then who was the twitter I guess everyone would like to know?

It's nothing to do with the Twitter Kennedy, as I said before, just watch this space and appeal info will come very shortly.....:thumbsup:

[kennedy06]

It's nothing to do with the Twitter Kennedy, as I said before, just watch this space and appeal info will come very shortly.....:thumbsup:

HOW did the TWITTER know this information to even tweet about news about the appeal and soon to be information by the media? IMO either you have been taken in or there was more to this twitter than some random person playing games. JMO but that is how I feel.

I just don't see this as a lucky guess by the twitter or a just a coincidence that you are mentioning it, so it is either true or a bad source. If true IMOthat means the twitter was privey to information. I don't see this was just a lucky coincidenceJMO

[vonna]

Yup, they love each other and they so deserve each other. What is so outlandish about a married couple having sex in America?? Age makes no difference, it is how you feel about a person.

And she "felt" he had a lot of money!!!

[Nic99]

HOW did the TWITTER know this information to even tweet about news about the appeal and soon to be information by the media? IMO either you have been taken in or there was more to this twitter than some random person playing games. JMO but that is how I feel.

It sounds to me like you have been taken in imo. I have REAL news about Phil's appeal being lodged and have stated on here. Won't be long coming now, so we just have wait for the appeal to be heard. I would suggest you FORGET about the Twitter site, because it was a hoax:rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

And she "felt" he had a lot of money!!!

:thumbsup:

[kennedy06]

It sounds to me like you have been taken in imo. I have REAL news about Phil's appeal being lodged and have stated on here. Won't be long coming now, so we just have wait for the appeal to be heard. I would suggest you FORGET about the Twitter site, because it was a hoax:rolleyes:

Sure I'll forget about it:wink: :wink:

I wonder who won't though?? hmmm

[Anakerie]

Sure I'll forget about it:wink: :wink:

I wonder who won't though?? hmmm
Funny how word of a supposed filed appeal has made it to the UK before it's made it into the media here in the state it's supposedly filed in.. :shrug:

I'll wait until I read about it in the papers here in California rather than depend on an anonymous poster on a message board.. (Especially when that particular anonymous poster is such a rabid fan of the has-been.)

[Daisy'sMom]

PS has been taken to a prison near Bakersfield. I believe it's called North Kern State Prison. This is according to TMZ. I am sorry if it is old news and has been already posted. They say he might be there for about 6 months before moving to another one. The best part of the article is that he was shackled.:thumbsup:

[barskin&co.]

It sounds to me like you have been taken in imo. I have REAL news about Phil's appeal being lodged and have stated on here. Won't be long coming now, so we just have wait for the appeal to be heard. I would suggest you FORGET about the Twitter site, because it was a hoax:rolleyes:

We always knew the Twitter site was a hoax. I'd suggest you forget about the appeal, because:

A) the appeals process takes a loooong time
B) PS has a snow ball's chance in h@ll

[barskin&co.]

Yup and the attorney has filed it, so won't be long. Justice for Phil:thumbsup:

Yeah, Nic. You better hurry up and wait...and wait....and wait....

[Nic99]

Funny how word of a supposed filed appeal has made it to the UK before it's made it into the media here in the state it's supposedly filed in.. :shrug:

I'll wait until I read about it in the papers here in California rather than depend on an anonymous poster on a message board.. (Especially when that particular anonymous poster is such a rabid fan of the has-been.)

Well thats the UK for you, we may be small, but boy do we know what we're talking about:thumbsup:

[Anakerie]

We always knew the Twitter site was a hoax. I'd suggest you forget about the appeal, because:

A) the appeals process takes a loooong time
B) PS has a snow ball's chance in h@ll
Maybe the appeals process in the UK is an "instant" one and the poster thinks the same thing will happen here... Too bad the fans will be disappointed.. The appeal process here takes years.

[Nic99]

I have no idea how all this works, but if that was filed on the same date (I know it) that the twitter posted a tweet about it then that twitter talking about slumber and pressups and using the word whilst at least one time was no NY disc jockey. All I'm saying. The end.

Forget about the Twitter, that has been announced as a hoax.....

[Nic99]

Amazing how they just revealed they really don't live in the UK and they are the one who pulled the hoax. The only ones they fooled were the other fans of Phil.

Making up a silly story as if it would buy it. Puleeze!

omo

What are you talking about, I do live in the UK and who pulled the hoax. You are really not making any sense:rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

Funny how word of a supposed filed appeal has made it to the UK before it's made it into the media here in the state it's supposedly filed in.. :shrug:

I'll wait until I read about it in the papers here in California rather than depend on an anonymous poster on a message board.. (Especially when that particular anonymous poster is such a rabid fan of the has-been.)

I'll wait for a reliable source of information with you.:wink:

[Nic99]

Funny how word of a supposed filed appeal has made it to the UK before it's made it into the media here in the state it's supposedly filed in.. :shrug:

I'll wait until I read about it in the papers here in California rather than depend on an anonymous poster on a message board.. (Especially when that particular anonymous poster is such a rabid fan of the has-been.)

Yup, funny how most of news of PS makes it in the British press before the American. Could you be prejudice perhaps. We love PS and believe he is innocent, sorry if you don't agree or perhaps I'm not:rolleyes:

[True2Blues]

Maybe the appeals process in the UK is an "instant" one and the poster thinks the same thing will happen here... Too bad the fans will be disappointed.. The appeal process here takes years.

It isn't. After a criminal conviction a solicitor or barrister tells the person if they feel there are any grounds for appeal. Paperwork for "leave to appeal" is to be completed in 28 days (it can be delayed if needed) stating reason for appeal. This goes to a single appeals Judge who decides whether there is a chance for the appeal to succeed. If they think it can, it goes to a full court.

[Anakerie]

Yup, funny how most of news of PS makes it in the British press before the American. Could you be prejudice perhaps. We love PS and believe he is innocent, sorry if you don't agree or perhaps I'm not:rolleyes:
You mean like the "breaking news" that the UK papers put out about Phil having an ipod and a laptop in jail? A story that was FALSE?

You can "love" the has-been all you want, nic... He still has to serve his time under California law. 19 years to life. Have a nice life while you wait for him to get out of prison... :rolleyes:

[kennedy06]

North Kern has different levels, here is a sample of one of the levels. I'm sure many of the situations and rules apply in all the levels. JMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sinvWetQRTI&feature=related

[Anakerie]

It isn't. After a criminal conviction a solicitor or barrister tells the person if they feel there are any grounds for appeal. Paperwork for "leave to appeal" is to be completed in 28 days (it can be delayed if needed) stating reason for appeal. This goes to a single appeals Judge who decides whether there is a chance for the appeal to succeed. If they think it can, it goes to a full court.

So, it would seem the British appeals process does move a bit faster than it does here.. Months instead of years?

[NotAgain]

Why does it matter SO much to posters on here whether PS is wearing his weave or not. In the big scheme of things I would think that would be a matter not important at all.... Hey, maybe that's me being British and only caring that true justice should be sought in this case and will be done in the appeal I am sure. So looking forward to that:thumbsup:

you are right about the appeal..... when the appellate court says ... NO........ Prisoner 8675309, meet your new life partner Bubba :tonguewag:

[Nic99]

You mean like the "breaking news" that the UK papers put out about Phil having an ipod and a laptop in jail? A story that was FALSE?

You can "love" the has-been all you want, nic... He still has to serve his time under California law. 19 years to life. Have a nice life while you wait for him to get out of prison... :rolleyes:

I am thanks and you too:thumbup: 28 days, not too long to wait is it really in the big scheme of things:beer:

[NotAgain]

I am thanks and you too:thumbup: 28 days, not too long to wait is it really in the big scheme of things:beer:

28 days is not long, but that is for the UK........ it takes YEARS here, across the pond, in the US :w00t:

when you are 70 years old, years can be a looooooooooooongggggggg time

[NotAgain]

I am thanks and you too:thumbup: 28 days, not too long to wait is it really in the big scheme of things:beer:

isn't it late there? 2a or so?

[True2Blues]

So, it would seem the British appeals process does move a bit faster than it does here.. Months instead of years?


I'm not sure. I suppose it depends on the court schedule.

They have that extra step where a single appeals Judge looks at the reasons for appeal and decides if they can succeed to save time on useless appeals I suppose, maybe it speeds things up. The appeal itself would then have to be prepared for court. If grounds for appeal are refused a person can still seek a full court hearing, but if they lose they get penalized (I like that idea).

[bearwds]

That was a great story about R.S.

The claimed fact that she "styled" his wigs and the mention that her talents included knowing how to use a "weed wacker", answered a number of questions.

I could have gone without the mind picture of craggy, yellow toenails flying across the room though...barf


bearwds

[Anakerie]

28 days is not long, but that is for the UK........ it takes YEARS here, across the pond, in the US :w00t:

when you are 70 years old, years can be a looooooooooooongggggggg time
I think that poster has a failure to comprehend that US law is not the same as UK law. Especially in the appeals process. Oh well... Phil is getting used to the new home he'll have for the next 6 months or so, then he'll get moved again to his "permanent" home. I doubt seriously if his trial bride will follow him. She'll be moving on soon to her new life and no doubt new boyfriends.

[Anakerie]

I'm not sure. I suppose it depends on the court schedule.

They have that extra step where a single appeals Judge looks at the reasons for appeal and decides if they can succeed to save time on useless appeals I suppose, maybe it speeds things up. The appeal itself would then have to be prepared for court. If grounds for appeal are refused a person can still seek a full court hearing, but if they lose they get penalized (I like that idea).
I like that idea too....

[True2Blues]

I like that idea too....

It might discourage some of the time wasters, but I doubt it. It could be worth a try.

(I should have said, those are only for the Crown courts in England and Wales. Scotland and No. Ireland have their own systems.)

[bchand]

I think that poster has a failure to comprehend that US law is not the same as UK law. Especially in the appeals process. Oh well... Phil is getting used to the new home he'll have for the next 6 months or so, then he'll get moved again to his "permanent" home. I doubt seriously if his trial bride will follow him. She'll be moving on soon to her new life and no doubt new boyfriends.

Oh yes she's just waiting for Phil's ok to start her singing career according to the article in the LA TIMES.

In the course of an hour, she referred to two different things as her "main focus."

The first is her husband's appeal. The second is her music career. She said her husband recorded her performing songs that he originally wrote for Celine Dion, Madonna and Trisha Yearwood.

"He could've sold [the music] to make money, but that's how much he believed in me," she said. She hopes to release the tracks but is waiting for his OK.

Boy she's in for another big letdown IMO.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-rachelle-spector5-2009jun05,0,7342546.story?page=1

[NotAgain]

Oh my, the teeth :biggrin:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-0605-mrs-spector-pictures,0,499365.photogallery?index=4

[kennedy06]

First photo on Not Again's link above, A Photo op on their bed with his (Edwardian?) suit! What's next dinner with his socks?

I can't tell, is the celiing cracked or the carpeting ripped?

Oh I need the laughing santa!

JMO

[Justice4All2]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31131684/

Article about RP.

[kennedy06]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31131684/

Article about RP.

This is getting stranger by the minute, I must log off LOL, all I can say to her is HE HAS 4 KIDS, in regards to the we are all that we have. JMO

(paraphrasing)

[NotAgain]

First photo on Not Again's link above, A Photo op on their bed with his (Edwardian?) suit! What's next dinner with his socks?

I can't tell, is the celiing cracked or the carpeting ripped?

Oh I need the laughing santa!

JMO

:lol: at the socks comment.

I thought it was a crack in the wall or tear in wallpaper.... I thought it was the headboard.... but you are probably right.. it is the floor or ceiling....

what happened to the :santa: ?

[Anakerie]

This is getting stranger by the minute, I must log off LOL, all I can say to her is HE HAS 4 KIDS, in regards to the we are all that we have. JMO

(paraphrasing)
Since she is now the "boss" over all his businesses, I would guess that she would like very much to have his 4 children disappear off the face of the earth... If Phil has truly given her any say over his business affairs, he is a whole lot dumber than I ever thought possible.

[oodi]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31131684/

Article about RP.

Per the article:

"Rachelle said she will get an apartment near him and visit as often as she can. As for the castle, she said, “It’s not for sale even though people keep wanting to buy it.”

She's going to get an apartment in Delano??? And chickens have lips, too!!! :laugh:

Unfortunately, only those who have ever been to Delano can truly appreciate how ridiculous the thought of RS moving there really is.

[dref99]

http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Visitors/Facilities/NKSP.html

A couple of things I thought about North Kern from the link

Is the lady pictured the person in charge - Nice to see a woman having control of Phil's activies

presumably he is there for evaluation
The Reception Center currently processes incoming inmates usually within a 60 to 90 day period. After compiling the inmate's criminal records, life histories, medical and psychological histories, and social relationships, NKSP staff determines the inmate's classification score and institutional placement. (my bolding)

Perhaps all the publicity from Rachelle means she is still on the payroll attempting to impact where he spends his final years. I keep coming back to the posting from Vonna

"have you ever heard of a young woman falling in love with a poor old man"

jmo

[dref99]

Since she is now the "boss" over all his businesses, I would guess that she would like very much to have his 4 children disappear off the face of the earth... If Phil has truly given her any say over his business affairs, he is a whole lot dumber than I ever thought possible.

Anakerie - you must have missed her statement to Harriet Ryan - obviously it is all written in the stars - ROFL where is that laughing Santa when you need him

"I've always had a mind of an entrepreneur, so this comes easy. Plus I'm a Gemini and a very big multi-tasker," she said.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-et-rachelle-spector5-2009jun05,0,7342546.story?page=2

But on a slightly more serious note - the post sentencing publicity sure does highlight yet again what a difference between these folks and the Clarkson family (calm, dignified and private in their mourning) - and given the instant payment of the checks at sentencing - someone other than Rachelle is surely Phil's financial advisor.

jmo

[Jayne]

Per the article:

"Rachelle said she will get an apartment near him and visit as often as she can. As for the castle, she said, “It’s not for sale even though people keep wanting to buy it.”

She's going to get an apartment in Delano??? And chickens have lips, too!!! :laugh:

Unfortunately, only those who have ever been to Delano can truly appreciate how ridiculous the thought of RS moving there really is.

Heck..she can rent the third bedroom...1K PER month...no privileges other than staying out of the way..no doggies...and certainly no "singing" or playing the piano. Oh..and MakeUp is not allowed!

You obviously know about Delano...Bakersfield...Kern County. Not a place Chelle would "shine" in..she'd look entirely out of place! Well..I "take that back"..maybe not? LOL

There is no "Pyrenes Castle" or anything resembling it in that area!

jmo

J

[oodi]

Heck..she can rent the third bedroom...1K PER month...no privileges other than staying out of the way..no doggies...and certainly no "singing" or playing the piano. Oh..and MakeUp is not allowed!

You obviously know about Delano...Bakersfield...Kern County. Not a place Chelle would "shine" in..she'd look entirely out of place! Well..I "take that back"..maybe not? LOL

There is no "Pyrenes Castle" or anything resembling it in that area!

jmo

J

Well... Merle Haggard does have a pretty nice place just east of Bakersfield... maybe he would put her up, since PS was in the music business, and RS is a singer and all. :unsure: She could always use Buck Owens recording studio in Oildale. LOL

[cali650]

It appears to me as though Rachelle has hired a PR person.

[barskin&co.]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31131684/

Article about RP.

‘I’m all by myself now,’ says Rachelle who’s living in the couple’s castle

Well, frankly, she doesn't look that upset, and why should she be? Like I said before, she could very well be struggling to hide the fact that she is jumping for joy. She is living in the castle, no longer as husband and wife with that old geezer. :laugh:

[barskin&co.]

Oh by the way, two main things about this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31131684/

1) I've rarely heard such unmitigated malarky in my life
2) I believe a publicist made up every word she told the interviewer. (“He’s been telling me he loved me since the first day we met,” she said.) :lol:

[kennedy06]

It appears to me as though Rachelle has hired a PR person.

In this recent artcile a publicist Hal L. is mentioned for PS. I looked on his site...it is quite colorful with a comic book on the home page...all about the 60's...so I wasn't to shocked that his name would be associated with PS. I don't know if he represents the wife or not.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-spector29-2009may29,0,7701046.story?track=rss

JMO

[kennedy06]

Nothing like a morning cup of coffee and reading the new twist to the title the NY Post is giving to her interview and what she is missing in regards to PS. The writer starting off with his take, he was A killer in bed, the writer does have a unique sense of humor I think. JMO

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06062009/gossip/pagesix/spectors_wife_misses_the_sex_172803.htm

(paraphrasing)

[tartangirl]

Here is a bit of news..

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_12533006

Shapiro, Spector at odds over suit again and still..:rolleyes:

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana
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[barskin&co.]

PS made David Letterman's monologue last night... did anyone else see it?

I didn't, but here it is:

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/988397.phtml

[NotAgain]

Nothing like a morning cup of coffee and reading the new twist to the title the NY Post is giving to her interview and what she is missing in regards to PS. The writer starting off with his take, he was A killer in bed, the writer does have a unique sense of humor I think. JMO

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06062009/gossip/pagesix/spectors_wife_misses_the_sex_172803.htm

(paraphrasing)

you MUST read the comments after the article. Where is that laughing santa..? oh my, so funny

[Anakerie]

Hi there,

this for starteres... His first "new" mugshot on TMZ!

www.tmz.com (http://www.tmz.com) LOL! Scroll down a bit please...

LL
LOL!! Too funny!

And poor little Phil didn't want his chicken a la king with beans and cornbread. Poor little has-been went to bed with no dinner...

[vonna]

I didn't, but here it is:

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/988397.phtml

Love Letterman's acerbic wit. He's certainly right in saying Phil's hairdresser should get the death penalty!

[kennedy06]

Deal is, and I would think the male posters on here may agree, if I was a man entering the prison system no matter what the level, the last thing I would want my wife to start bragging about to the press, the day before I go to enter into it, is about my sex life.

Seriously. What was she thinking or to whos benefit would such a comment be, not PS's he going into Prison. I'm not trying to be funny but serious, Inmates have relatives that read the paper also. What a way to start him off with that being held over him as possible harassing comment or whatever. IMO

[vonna]

Funny is right. I can't believe the bs that flows freely from her mouth. Honey, no one is buying what you're trying to sell. Give it a rest.

omo

:laugh:

Sort of makes you wonder if she's motivated to keep him in prison or help free him.

[NotAgain]

Deal is, and I would think the male posters on here may agree, if I was a man entering the prison system no matter what the level, the last thing I would want my wife to start bragging about to the press, the day before I go to enter into it, is about my sex life.

Seriously. What was she thinking or to whos benefit would such a comment be, not PS's he going into Prison. I'm not trying to be funny but serious, Inmates have relatives that read the paper also. What a way to start him off with that being held over him as possible harassing comment or whatever. IMO

I totally agree. You know Bubba is going to ask loverboy to prove it. :crying:

[NotAgain]

Maybe it wasn´t kosher :shrug:

LL
jmo

poor guy will be hungry at breakfast when he gets a sausage link and grits... sooner or later, kosher or not, he is going to get very hungry. \


sorry phil, no fritos on the menu. are fritos kosher? oh wait, he became an orthodox jew once imprisoned...... maybe he is now a rabbi too... and he can attest that the fritos are kosher...

[vonna]

Oh my...:w00t: Spector had a sex life? Let me think about this for a minute...........................Okay, I have a vision..................
barf
JMO

Nightmare is more like it.

[kennedy06]

I totally agree. You know Bubba is going to ask loverboy to prove it. :crying:

This is a mess IMO, to much revealed about PS in his golden years. Then he will have some 25 year old aging right along with him asking him if he can clip his toenails every other week. These guys have nothing better to do. Come to think of it do they allow those in prison, oh no, this gets worse.:sad:

JMO

[kipswife]

Wow.......what can we say about RS that she hasnt already said. plenty!!!! what a great article, really the indepth story that we have all been waiting for. and she sings.....great, will just have to wait for the album to come out.

[nsm]

I think that poster has a failure to comprehend that US law is not the same as UK law. Especially in the appeals process. Oh well... Phil is getting used to the new home he'll have for the next 6 months or so, then he'll get moved again to his "permanent" home. I doubt seriously if his trial bride will follow him. She'll be moving on soon to her new life and no doubt new boyfriends.

How much time would you give her before she goes through all his money like a kid in a candy store? He is more of an idiot that I thought. His children get NO access to his money and this girl does? She certainly hit the Lottery big time!

[Jayne]

Nothing like a morning cup of coffee and reading the new twist to the title the NY Post is giving to her interview and what she is missing in regards to PS. The writer starting off with his take, he was A killer in bed, the writer does have a unique sense of humor I think. JMO

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06062009/gossip/pagesix/spectors_wife_misses_the_sex_172803.htm

(paraphrasing)

HAHAHA..thanks..

he was a "killer in bed"? obviously he was a killer out of bed!

jmo

J

[Jayne]

I hope RS does burn Spector. He has been burning woman for many years. I just find it difficult to believe that he would allow her to handle everything. There has to be power of attorney behind the wings somewhere. (Does POA work when you are incarcerated?)
Knowing Spector and how extremely selfish he is. He, Knowing there is a 99.9999999999% he will never see the outside again.
Like I said, I hope she does!:biggrin:
jmo

POA works everywhere...it depends on when it is "active"...if immediately...then it is..if only in the event of "incapacity"...then there can be a real problem..sort of...incarcerated won't change it..he'd have to be mentally incapable if it's that type of POA.

I don't really think she is "doing his business"..is she? Or through him..like a glorified secretary?

But I wouldn't be surprised..at how he dumped his own children...and THEY should be the ones running his business..not his childbride, IMO.

jmo

J

[True2Blues]

I hope RS does burn Spector. He has been burning woman for many years. I just find it difficult to believe that he would allow her to handle everything. There has to be power of attorney behind the wings somewhere. (Does POA work when you are incarcerated?)
Knowing Spector and how extremely selfish he is. He, Knowing there is a 99.9999999999% he will never see the outside again.
Like I said, I hope she does!:biggrin:
jmo


Hi Dianna,

I don't see PS trusting anyone with a great deal of his money. I still think he's hidden a lot in accounts he doesn't want the Clarkson's to find.

I'd like to see Rachelle fade away quickly and permanently. Whoever her PR person is, they're doing a lousy job of making her look anything but a publicity monger with no class. But hey, she seems proud of it.

[True2Blues]

HAHAHA..thanks..

he was a "killer in bed"? obviously he was a killer out of bed!

jmo

J

Too True, Jayne.

[vonna]

This is getting stranger by the minute, I must log off LOL, all I can say to her is HE HAS 4 KIDS, in regards to the we are all that we have. JMO

(paraphrasing)

If it is true that "we are all that we have" it is by their own choosing.

[True2Blues]

If it is true that "we are all that we have" it is by their own choosing.

They are welcome to each other, I can't imagine anyone else wanting either of them.

I'm sure her Mother, who appeared at the first trial several times, appreciates that.:rolleyes:

[vonna]

They are welcome to each other, I can't imagine anyone else wanting either of them.

I'm sure her Mother, who appeared at the first trial several times, appreciates that.:rolleyes:

They seem to have estranged family members which means their plight is a little like the kid who killed his parents - then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.

[hiitsme]

Hi there,

this for starteres... His first "new" mugshot on TMZ!

www.tmz.com LOL! Scroll down a bit please...

LL

Are you sure that's not Michael Jackson!:scared:

[tartangirl]

Just pulled this up. Interesting reading for a Sunday morning with my coffee by my side. Hmmm...just hmmm:sad: :wink:

~ as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana


http://leoquix.blogspot.com/2009/06/phil-spector-on-murder-in-1960.html

[dref99]

Just pulled this up. Interesting reading for a Sunday morning with my coffee by my side. Hmmm...just hmmm

~ as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana


http://leoquix.blogspot.com/2009/06/phil-spector-on-murder-in-1960.html

It was rather mmmm interesting mmm strange - but why must people get the odd fact wrong, which just takes away from the story

in light of his recent conviction for the murder of his former lover:

First time I've ever seen a comment calling Lana his "former lover" :confused: :glare:

jmo

[tartangirl]

It was rather mmmm interesting mmm strange - but why must people get the odd fact wrong, which just takes away from the story

in light of his recent conviction for the murder of his former lover:

First time I've ever seen a comment calling Lana his "former lover" :confused: :glare:

jmo

I tried to post an "informed" comment. I will be interested to see if it is published. I am sure I am not the only one who has sent in a comment. :wink:

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

[NotAgain]

It was rather mmmm interesting mmm strange - but why must people get the odd fact wrong, which just takes away from the story

in light of his recent conviction for the murder of his former lover:

First time I've ever seen a comment calling Lana his "former lover" :confused: :glare:

jmo


only in Ps dreams

[True2Blues]

They seem to have estranged family members which means their plight is a little like the kid who killed his parents - then threw himself on the mercy of the court because he was an orphan.

That sounds like the right level of mentality.

[Anakerie]

I tried to post an "informed" comment. I will be interested to see if it is published. I am sure I am not the only one who has sent in a comment. :wink:

~ as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~


2 comments were published.... One from Sprocket and one from "fearlessfemale". Both corrected the author of that blog entry and then he came back with a reply saying thanks and adding that he didn't really care about the case, just the irony of Phil's speech. At least he added a "rest in peace" for Lana.

http://leoquix.blogspot.com/2009/06/phil-spector-on-murder-in-1960.html

[True2Blues]

Just pulled this up. Interesting reading for a Sunday morning with my coffee by my side. Hmmm...just hmmm:sad: :wink:

~ as always, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=lana


http://leoquix.blogspot.com/2009/06/phil-spector-on-murder-in-1960.html

Interesting story. Anyone besides me think it's a complete and total lie? PS may have said that, but I'll believe it happened when outside sources confirm it.

[NotAgain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8reN7tv2E

the RS interview

[NotAgain]

Is she auditioning for an acting job?

:laugh:


the comments are funny......

i see RS.... then the photos of Lana....... Lana was gorgeous and 40...

RS looks much older than Lana, much older....... and lacking class :scared:

[vonna]

Birds of a feather and all that you know...:wink:

Good afternoon, NM. Let's hope she is enjoying her 15 minutes. We are not.

[hiitsme]

Good afternoon, NM. Let's hope she is enjoying her 15 minutes. We are not.

Yes, "Short" and sweet! No pun intended?

[barskin&co.]

Attention!! Alan Jackson TV sighting. Right now on the Disovery:ID network (Investigation Discovery), there an episode of "48 Hours:Hard Evidence" called "Murder in the Fast Lane." It is about the old case of the murder of Mickey Thompson and his wife that tookalmost two decades to bring to justice, and the prosecutor is.....AJ!!!!

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/48-hours/ep-guide/ep-guide.html

It is repeated at 2 am, so set your DVR if you're not a night owl.

[tartangirl]

2 comments were published.... One from Sprocket and one from "fearlessfemale". Both corrected the author of that blog entry and then he came back with a reply saying thanks and adding that he didn't really care about the case, just the irony of Phil's speech. At least he added a "rest in peace" for Lana.

http://leoquix.blogspot.com/2009/06/phil-spector-on-murder-in-1960.html

Thanks for the information. As you say, at least something. Not enough, but something. I am watching Alan Jackson on the 48 Hours Hard Evidence "Murder In The Fast Lane"...again...LOL Each time I see him I remember his dedication to Lana...what a wonderful advocate. :smile:

~as always, my opinion, Justice for Lana and those who love her ~ At Last ~

[kennedy06]

While looking for a video in which DW spoke after the verdict I came across this most interesting little article ......PS is mentioned in the article.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/sports/baseball/Baseball-Icon-Takes-on-Twitter.html

[kennedy06]

Oh I should clarify I'm not posting it to suggest PS benefit from anything like TL., I just posted it that's all as I thought there maybe consequences for such a thing on such an elaborate scale and apparently there is. JMO

[dref99]

Oh I should clarify I'm not posting it to suggest PS benefit from anything like TL., I just posted it that's all as I thought there maybe consequences for such a thing on such an elaborate scale and apparently there is. JMO

It always looks to me like a money making event when someone sues the site - not the individual - given that the site ownership is likely to have funds.

I'm sure Phil would be onto it - if he thinks there is a chance - he has spent most of his life in one legal event after another, losing the one he really did need to win. Guess he learned the hard way "you can't win them all".

In both instances, it seemed to me the falsehood is probably obvious - but those with funds will often settle to avoid the cost of a legal battle

jmo

[vonna]

It always looks to me like a money making event when someone sues the site - not the individual - given that the site ownership is likely to have funds.

jmo

The people instituting the suit always go after the 'deep pockets.'

[Mort_Snerd]

I could not find a forum called "Trials" so judging by the title of this forum, will try to start a thread where new information can be found.

As a "In Session" message board member, I am stuck on this case and the habit of checking each day is addictive. I would like to know when/where he is transferred to as a final destination, and the success or failure of the civil case and appeals.

Mortie

[Ellie]

I could not agree more, Mort. I hope we're allowed to keep this thread open.

I find I'm scared to even mention anything posted in the old threads, but if what some are saying is true, it will be very interesting (to me, at least) to see what Rachelle's next move is as Phil's sounding board.

I am also looking forward to hearing the play by play on the civil trial.

Thanks for the new thread. :wink:

[NotAgain]

Thanks Mort. Your name was mentioned on the Melanie McGuire appeal thread about the gun used.... seeking your wisdom on the grooves.

I think this case (Spector) is far from over. There is the wife on her PR junket after JF lifted the gag order.

I am eager to find out his final home also.

[Nic99]

I am eager for the forthcoming appeal. I am really looking forward to hearing all the info and finding out about how the process works in more depth.

[FallenAngel♥]

OMG look at his mugshot


http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/10/the-real-phil-spector-new-mug-shot/


:scared:

[Nic99]

OMG look at his mugshot


http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/10/the-real-phil-spector-new-mug-shot/


:scared:


Thanks for the link. I actually think it looks alright; his hair is a lot longer and more of it than I thought there would be. I think he looks pretty good in this shot and doesn't need a weave. No greys and looking good for his age.

[FallenAngel♥]

OMG i hope you are joking LOL

he looks like the tales from the crypt guy to me. and i'm sure he was coloring that stringy stuff he calls hair.

Chelle lied when she said Phil NEVER wears a wig or makeup.

My step fathers 75 and he looks great ....nothing like PS.

[Nic99]

OMG i hope you are joking LOL

he looks like the tales from the crypt guy to me. and i'm sure he was coloring that stringy stuff he calls hair.

Chelle lied when she said Phil NEVER wears a wig or makeup.

My step fathers 75 and he looks great ....nothing like PS.

LOL, we are all entitled an' all.... TBH I don't think PS did wear what you would call a wig, it was a weave, which is something different, so she wasn't really lying there. It could have been made from his own hair too, so that could be what she meant also.

I seriously think he looks okay - I was sort of expecting no hair at all. Maybe it might look better if it was cut shorter, when nothing on top though, but who am I to say. My dad looks great too and he is 75 this year, but I think PS looks good for his age.

jmo

[FallenAngel♥]

LOL, we are all entitled an' all.... TBH I don't think PS did wear what you would call a wig, it was a weave, which is something different, so she wasn't really lying there. It could have been made from his own hair too, so that could be what she meant also.

I seriously think he looks okay - I was sort of expecting no hair at all. Maybe it might look better if it was cut shorter, when nothing on top though, but who am I to say. My dad looks great too and he is 75 this year, but I think PS looks good for his age.

jmo

he doesn't have enough hair on top for a weave. i've been a hairdresser for 21 years. no doubt in my mind it was a wig and he colors his hair.

but then again i knew you would love that photo of him because you like PS.........

Good bye

[Nic99]

he doesn't have enough hair on top for a weave. i've been a hairdresser for 21 years. no doubt in my mind it was a wig and he colors his hair.

but then again i knew you would love that photo of him because you like PS.........

Good bye

What do you mean I like PS. I believe PS is innocent, there is no need to be condascending..... I was polite in my post to you, shame you couldn't offer me the same courtesy.

Goodbye......

[kennedy06]

I don't know what to think, no he isn't the guy on the I dream of Jeannie episode but well, I'm not as shocked as I thought I might be. Well, I'm shocked but who does he remind me of, some older singer but who, I mean he could have one of those golfers caps on and a cigar hanging out of his mouth and he probably would have looked like any other older man in the grocery store if the back was trimmed up. Wow maybe he did, citizens of Alhambra did you see this man in front of you at the checkout, seriously? You know I had wondered if his scalp was destroyed from years of wigs and things, but the top of his head looks normal, gee I wonder why he just didn't get a hair transplant, he has hair on the back of his head. Would never have guessed. JMO

[NotAgain]

unless i am mistaken, he must normally wear wigs.... rachelle brought a pink hat box to the court for sentencing.... the hat box had his 'hair'... i do not see rachelle bringing a weave and then weaving it into his hair, as pictured.... doesn't a weave require a skilled person to actually weave the stuff into your existing hair?\

i thought the mugshot was ok...... not as scary as I thought it would be... he just looks like a 70 year old man who does not take care of himself .....

ok, i just went and looked again....... he would look better shaved...... what is that ratty hair in the back........ nasty

I bet being photographed without his wig was more humiliating than anything else.

[FallenAngel♥]

i think he would look a lot better if he cut it short and stop coloring it that mousy brown.

Rachelle said Rachelle claims that they are not wigs but his real hair

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2007/11/dunne200711?currentPage=3

[Nic99]

unless i am mistaken, he must normally wear wigs.... rachelle brought a pink hat box to the court for sentencing.... the hat box had his 'hair'... i do not see rachelle bringing a weave and then weaving it into his hair, as pictured.... doesn't a weave require a skilled person to actually weave the stuff into your existing hair?\

i thought the mugshot was ok...... not as scary as I thought it would be... he just looks like a 70 year old man who does not take care of himself .....

ok, i just went and looked again....... he would look better shaved...... what is that ratty hair in the back........ nasty

I bet being photographed without his wig was more humiliating than anything else.

Being shaved..... he's in prison, what does it matter. He looks like a 70 yr old who has taken care of themselves. Rachelle brought a pink suitcase into court that day and we don't know what was in it. His suit, his weave, perhaps, but not a hat case, just a pink suitcase was reported.

I'm really pleased that the mug shot is really good and actually I think it looks better than the previous one and I certainly don't think PS would feel at all humiliated by it - as posters on here and other threads have already said, it aint half bad.......

[NotAgain]

i think he would look a lot better if he cut it short and stop coloring it that mousy brown.

Rachelle said Rachelle claims that they are not wigs but his real hair


http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2007/11/dunne200711?currentPage=3

Like I said a long time ago.... when Dolly Parton is asked if 'that' is her real hair.... she jokingly says yes, I paid for it..... and that she has a room full of her hair or something like that........

get a clue Phil from a real musical genius......

[NotAgain]

Being shaved..... he's in prison, what does it matter. He looks like a 70 yr old who has taken care of themselves. Rachelle brought a pink suitcase into court that day and we don't know what was in it. His suit, his weave, perhaps, but not a hat case, just a pink suitcase was reported.

I'm really pleased that the mug shot is really good and actually I think it looks better than the previous one and I certainly don't think PS would feel at all humiliated by it - as posters on here and other threads have already said, it aint half bad.......


Phil is a narcissist......

Phil is concerned what others think about him.......

when guests come to his house, they must ascend the 80 or so steps (as if it were the stairway to Heaven).....

he wears wigs......

he wears lifts.....

he has bodyguards......

he leaves huge tips.....

he brags about working with Lennon.......

there was an interview with someone from the UK in the 90s`and kept playing his rock n roll hall of fame induction ceremony to the person....

he married a very young woman.....

he requested to wear his wig to sentencing..........

high school reunion fiasco....

the list is endless.....



i would not be surprised to find out that the first person to call Spector a genius was Spector himself.

[Ellie]

OMG look at his mugshot


http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/10/the-real-phil-spector-new-mug-shot/


:scared:

Wow. He actually has more hair than I thought he did. I don't know what else to say. It's not a "horrible" shot and yes, he does look better than I thought he would but quite a bit older (the wigs help him maintain more of a youthful look. well not "youthful" exactly but they do take several years off....).

Huh. I need to get over the shock now. Thanks, Fallen, for finding and posting the link. :smile:

[Anakerie]

OMG look at his mugshot


http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/10/the-real-phil-spector-new-mug-shot/


:scared:
Quite a picture, isn't it? I saw it shortly after they posted it, grabbed it and put it on my blog along with the other two mugshots he's had taken... There is quite a contrast in the 3 mugshots for sure...

I also added a picture of Lana and a recent photo of Rachelle... Interesting comparison there too...

[NotAgain]

I think he resembles John Couey ( Jessica Lunsford murder)...except Coueys hair was neater. Just another mug shot of a murderer...

He does!!!!!!!! Couey is despicable IMO, more than PS.

[Anakerie]

I agree about the resemblance to Couey.. **shudder**

Have we heard any dates for the civil trials? Hearings, depos or whatever? I remember reading that Phil is refusing to be deposed for the civil trial filed by Lana's family as well as the one he has going with Shapiro. I wonder which one will end up in a courtroom first.. The one filed by Phil against Shapiro or the one filed by the Clarksons against Phil.

Also, a question for Nic... A few days ago you were posting about the appeal alredy being filed and that the news would break at any time. What happened with that?

[Themis]

I think this photo is better -- need to scroll down a bit


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0609091philspector1.html

[True2Blues]

I think he resembles John Couey ( Jessica Lunsford murder)...except Coueys hair was neater. Just another mug shot of a murderer...

You're right NM, he does look like Couey.

You know, I've wondered through all of this why PS, with all of his money, never got a hair transplant, hair plugs, whatever. He's obviously always been sensitive about it. I mean Geeze, it's just male pattern baldness.

[FallenAngel♥]

I think he resembles John Couey ( Jessica Lunsford murder)...except Coueys hair was neater. Just another mug shot of a murderer...

yes ma'am i agree he looks just like Couey....

[nsm]

maybe Chell will use the mugshot pic as her screensaver. :scared:

[True2Blues]

True...you know nothing was ever "just" with him...that is for other unimportant men...:wink:

I hope one of the other suits get started soon. Can't a judge order him to give a deposition?

Apparently not, at least until his appeal is refused. I sincerely believe that he will lie anyway. I'm sure there's enough evidence for a jury to hold him accountable for Lana's death in Civil Court.

You're right, PS always thinks he's special. :rolleyes:

[vonna]

I think he resembles John Couey ( Jessica Lunsford murder)...except Coueys hair was neater. Just another mug shot of a murderer...

You nailed it, NM. I was trying to determine why he looked familiar and that's it! I guess this is the shot seen around the world.

[Amy]

I hope Cindy is revealed just as this guy finally was:

Phil Spector Unmasked (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/california.spector.mug.shot/index.html)

:scared:

Consider yourselves warned.

Really, w/hair piece is scarier than without, IMO!!!!!

[PuffDragon]

I hope Cindy is revealed just as this guy finally was:

Phil Spector Unmasked (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/california.spector.mug.shot/index.html)

:scared:

Consider yourselves warned.

Jeepers, Spots, that's the scariest thing I've seen all year!!!!:eek:

[legalmania]

I hope Cindy is revealed just as this guy finally was:

Phil Spector Unmasked (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/california.spector.mug.shot/index.html)

:scared:

Consider yourselves warned.

It's so sad when even the prisoners reject you.

[Dick Tracy]

I hope Cindy is revealed just as this guy finally was:

Phil Spector Unmasked (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/california.spector.mug.shot/index.html)

:scared:

Consider yourselves warned.

Thanks for the warning. He is one of the creepiest looking guys I have ever seen. Phil Spector just creeps me totally. He'll die in prison. His big shot personna and waving guns around women will be the death of him.

Justice has been served for Lana.

[barskin&co.]

I know I am one of the few who feel sorry for him. He obviously was very sensitive to his baldness. I happened to like just about all his wigs and weaves and I especially loved the way the man dressed. I know he is a convicted murderer, but I can see him differently than others since I too have issues with my looks.

Awwww. He's real sensitive...to his baldness.. Pardon us if we feel he needed to be a little more sensitive to the lives of the women he terrorized and held at gun point and the woman, Lana Clarkson, he held at gun point and ended up murdering.
Holding someone captive with a gun is a very serious crime. Just ask OJ Simpson. That's the reason he at long last was put behind bars. And Spector did this to women over and over again over the course of decades. It was inevitable that he would eventually murder one of the woman. Poor Lana had the honor.
But, he's sensitive about his own looks. Isn't that special.

[PuffDragon]

Anti-intellectual much? Oh of course, let's have high school drop-outs because their reasoning skills are so much better, and because we know they won't over-think.:rolleyes:

Two points: if you think the prosecution was not well prepared, why don't you blame a hung jury (if there is one) on them?

And if you watched the Spector or the O.J. trials, you might want to rethink your conclusion about who hangs juries. jmo

*Bolding mine

I do.

I'm not anti-intellectual. I'm anti college bigheads who like to show how liberal they are, to the point of spraining their backs from bending over too far.

[Thisbe II]

hmmm...

Spector 1 junkies help me here. I think the 2 hold outs in this case were a white male Mormon Civil Engineer and.....Who was the second not guilty?

anyone remember?

Gin:confused:

[kellabeck]

hmmm...

Spector 1 junkies help me here. I think the 2 hold outs in this case were a white male Mormon Civil Engineer and.....Who was the second not guilty?

anyone remember?

Gin:confused:

The foreman (#10) was a white male, an engineer, a resident of Cowabunga, or whatever town the castle was in, and said he had once seen Spector in Walmart or someplace. He refused to let the jury take a vote for several days and finally relented after juror #9 threatened to report this to the judge.

Thereafter they voted and were hopelessly deadlocked. At that point the judge polled the jury and found there was confusion over one of the jury instructions, the one the defense insisted on. At that point the judge realized that that jury instruction contradicted another and was WRONG. Then the judge cured this by reinstructing the jury and they went back to deliberating.

Thereafter, at one point 11 jurors voted guilty and only #10 continued to want to acquit. There was one woman who vacillated G-NG and then flipped back to NG.

Ultimately that's how they hung--- 10 G/2 NG. I am not aware of the woman's having spoken to the press. #10, in contrast, attended the presser but refused to reveal how he voted. He also was totally unable, imo, to iterate a reason why he wanted to acquit.

I suspected then and continue to suspect that he was venal and that someone in Spector's camp got to him. I thinks someone should look in his driveway and see if there's a newish BMW or Lexus there. Or maybe it was an offshore account.

[Mort_Snerd]

Only thing I can figure out is that the defendants name is not allowed on IN SESSION forums. I would like to state for the Moderators information that this post is in regard to a trial covered by IN SESSION and is now an old case. So I am posting in the correct Forum.

If this post in in violation of the TOS, please let me know what it is that I am doing wrong.

I would like to track the guilty defendant and his travels through the State of California Justice system, jails and possible appeals.

Thank you,
Mortie

[vonna]

Only thing I can figure out is that the defendants name is not allowed on IN SESSION forums. I would like to state for the Moderators information that this post is in regard to a trial covered by IN SESSION and is now an old case. So I am posting in the correct Forum.

If this post in in violation of the TOS, please let me know what it is that I am doing wrong.

I would like to track the guilty defendant and his travels through the State of California Justice system, jails and possible appeals.

Thank you,
Mortie

So would I and many others as well. It seemed that there were those on the previous thread that did not understand the appeal process. I found this and think it might enlighten some.

This is how an appeal works:

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/cri...l_appeals.html
Quote:
Appellate review of a conviction is a bit like watching a videotape of a football game, to look for errors by the referees. If the referees make a lot of errors in a close game, you may get the feeling that their mistakes changed the result of the game. However, even if they made a lot of errors, the score can be so lopsided that you conclude that the errors did not affect the outcome. The judges on appeal are looking for errors which may have changed the verdict, and will disregard "harmless errors," which they believe did not have an effect. They judges will also disregard what they deem to be mistakes of "trial strategy" - a concept that is akin to when the coach chooses a play that doesn't work out the way he intended.

[Nic99]

So would I and many others as well. It seemed that there were those on the previous thread that did not understand the appeal process. I found this and think it might enlighten some.

This is how an appeal works:

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/cri...l_appeals.html
Quote:
Appellate review of a conviction is a bit like watching a videotape of a football game, to look for errors by the referees. If the referees make a lot of errors in a close game, you may get the feeling that their mistakes changed the result of the game. However, even if they made a lot of errors, the score can be so lopsided that you conclude that the errors did not affect the outcome. The judges on appeal are looking for errors which may have changed the verdict, and will disregard "harmless errors," which they believe did not have an effect. They judges will also disregard what they deem to be mistakes of "trial strategy" - a concept that is akin to when the coach chooses a play that doesn't work out the way he intended.

That actually clarifies everything I have already researched and backs up the fact that an appeal will be successful in the not too distant future. A close friend of mine is a Barrister and I have all the information that I need regarding appeals from him.

Good to have clarification though:thumbsup:

[vonna]

That actually clarifies everything I have already researched and backs up the fact that an appeal will be successful in the not too distant future. A close friend of mine is a Barrister and I have all the information that I need regarding appeals from him.

Good to have clarification though:thumbsup:

It does the former - not the latter.

[NotAgain]

It does the former - not the latter.\


I agree with you Vonna.

Thanks Mort for the thread. The other threads keep disappearing. I came here to see if anyone answered your question yesterday about PS testifying in the civil trial ...... and pleading the 5th while his request is pending.

[oodi]

I was wondering why the threads keep disappearing as well. :confused:

On another note, PS has now become a a member of the "Old, Armed and Dangerous" club:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201899

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201832

[Mort_Snerd]

I am not a legal student nor do I have any such training. I have called people who are lawyers and they state that the fifth admendment can be invoked during any trial; civil or criminal. It will make no difference if he has an appeal in progress or not. The Judge will have to right to look at the question and decide if the witness has to answer or not. The witness cannot make a blanket claim in a civil trial and will have to plea on an question by question basis.

Mortie



I agree with you Vonna.

Thanks Mort for the thread. The other threads keep disappearing. I came here to see if anyone answered your question yesterday about PS testifying in the civil trial ...... and pleading the 5th while his request is pending.

[Anakerie]

I agree with Nic and think there is a strong chance of appeal. IMO you are totally wrong and look forward to proving it.

Snooky
I guess we'll all have to wait the months or years it is going to take before an appeal is filed and then heard. Meanwhile, Phil will be serving his time and his wife will go on with her life... And we'll all be reading about what happens with the civil cases... In my opinion, the civil cases will be happening long before an appeal.

[True2Blues]

I guess we'll all have to wait the months or years it is going to take before an appeal is filed and then heard. Meanwhile, Phil will be serving his time and his wife will go on with her life... And we'll all be reading about what happens with the civil cases... In my opinion, the civil cases will be happening long before an appeal.

I agree. I don't know if Civil cases can be televised, but I'd like to see this one.

[Anakerie]

I was wondering why the threads keep disappearing as well. :confused:

On another note, PS has now become a a member of the "Old, Armed and Dangerous" club:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201899

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201832
Thank you for the links, oodi... The article was interesting to read, and the photos were interesting as well..

[Anakerie]

I agree. I don't know if Civil cases can be televised, but I'd like to see this one.

Same here. I'm almost jealous of Sprocket in that she is able to go to the courthouse to observe.. lol, "Almost" is the key word. I left Southern California for a lot of reasons and I don't think a trial is a good enough reason to move back down there... :biggrin:

I think I remember reading that she is planning on keeping track of the civil trial involving the Clarkson's, but I wonder if she is going to keep track of the one involving Shapiro as well.

[vonna]

Thank you for the links, oodi... The article was interesting to read, and the photos were interesting as well..


There's no doubt that Spector fits the category.

[dref99]

This is totally not relevant to this thread imo. Just trying to dig up more media dirt does not contribute to this thread:thumbdown:

It was a most interesting article attempting to give insight into why Lana Clarkson met her death when an older member of the community used one of his many guns to kill her - old armed and dangerous seems a reasonable description and very relevant.

If one can ever understand why this murder happened, it may save another woman from a similar fate.


I am not a legal student nor do I have any such training. I have called people who are lawyers and they state that the fifth admendment can be invoked during any trial; civil or criminal. It will make no difference if he has an appeal in progress or not. The Judge will have to right to look at the question and decide if the witness has to answer or not. The witness cannot make a blanket claim in a civil trial and will have to plea on an question by question basis.

Mortie - there is another crime currently discussed on these boards which seems to address the same issue. I think one ruling was that the defendant could answer prepared questions in writing - but as you say, each issue is addressed by the Judge. The lawers for the defendant in the Clarkson case have indicated they will advise him to invoke the 5th for every question. I think perhaps "I don't remember" may be an alternative option if this is not allowed.

jmo

[True2Blues]

I hate to disappoint, but I don't think this will be televised. The 2nd trial was not televised, so I don't think there's much chance of the civil trial and thats not important imo; the biggie is the appeal and the outcome and I don't care if that is televised or not, what does it matter; but I know the outcome will be positive for PS and THAT is what matters to me and many others imo.....

The Civil Trial may not be important to you, but there are still many people who are interested in it's outcome.

[kennedy06]

I was wondering why the threads keep disappearing as well. :confused:

On another note, PS has now become a a member of the "Old, Armed and Dangerous" club:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201899

http://www.newsweek.com/id/201832

Thank you Mort, I too believe the Lana C. case is as relevant as the other old trial cases on this particular board. This case has yet to see its absolute final results in other areas significant to this guilty verdict such as the civil trial, appeals and who knows what else may occur.

I will be as interseted in the Robert S. and PS case, since it is a significant early topic of this case, a part of PS arrest/bailing out scenario and events there after.


Thanks for the links Oodi. It is a relevant topic when considering PS age when the crime was committed and his age at sentencing. I had done a little research about the older prisoners in the prison system in the US. It was a hot topic for an attorney before Congress, but the NOTEDpart of the long article (yes I can link to) was the difference between the older prisoner that had aged in the system and those that were OLDER when committing their crime.

The topic of PS hits on many different issues, the trial of course, aging prisoners in the prison system, does wealth play a bigger role in ones ability to defend themselves and I'm sure there are others.

JMO

[NotAgain]

Thanks oodi for the links. Very interesting.

Thanks Mortie for the info on PS and taking the 5th.

I can't remember if OJs civil trial was televised. For some reason I remember an observer stood in the window with a sign or something with the verdict.... or that may have been another case.

[Mort_Snerd]

While a Judge will admonish the jury not to hold the "taking of the 5th" against a defendant, most people would be very annoyed by the following:

Plantiff attorney: "What is your name?"
Witness: "I refuse to answer that question according to the 5th admendment"

Plantiff attorney: "On Februray 3, 2002 did you live at 1700 Grandview in Alameda California?"
Witness: "I don't remember"

Plantiff attorney: Are you a record producer?"
Witness: "Blah, blah blah"

In my personal opinion, it would be a very stupid thing to do.

Mortie



. . . <snip>. . .
The lawers for the defendant in the Clarkson case have indicated they will advise him to invoke the 5th for every question. I think perhaps "I don't remember" may be an alternative option if this is not allowed.

jmo