Thursday May 28 2009

[ttcRider]

Well according to some links that Des put on our links page, she really believes in redemption. So, she wouldn't care if Casey killed Caylee.

As long as she can change, she wants her to have that chance.

oh my I thought you were talking about Des!! :laugh:
You werent were you? :mellow:

[Dells]

... yet we're all supposed to be beside ourselves with worry that the odious one gets a fair trial. Please. She's the ONLY person in this nightmare who has been/is being/will be treated fairly. Was Caylee? Were Casey's friends, boyfriends, ex's? How about the extended Plesea and Anthony families? How is this unholy mess fair to any of them? Sorry, but I have real trouble generating any enthusiasm for the concept of a fair trial for Casey Anthony. I couldn't care less. :cursing:

I so agree w/you! It's like Casey's rights are more important and trumps everyone else's.:sneaky:

[crimeq]

Great picture, hadn't seen that one yet. As for the rest of your post: "Casey looks and acts more evil everyday"-well I would be hard pressed to find a "living" anthony that DOESN'T look and act more evil by the day. The only way I would enjoy having a look at any of these folks would be spiraling down after I use the "flush" function. My big, big question to all is-why do people keep saying how much the ants have supported casey? All I see is a lot of azz covering by the parents, period. I don't think anyone can connect the dots in how the ants act and absolutely any benefit that this has bestowed upon casey. IMO they are clinging to this trial to get any blood money they possibly can and that's it-just leeches. Also I am pretty sure that this moment in time is not the first time that cindy ant has made disparaging remarks about excess weight. Remember the fat, lazy bloggers? cindy saw casey the last time she was in court so she has to be aware of the weight issue and yet there's casey all stuffed up and nowhere to blow. casey looked like crap, do you think she (casey) didn't notice this? I just can't believe that cindy, who appears to me to be a bit weight conscious/obsessed, would not think it important to have her kid showing up in court looking like a sausage. I'm not picking sides but casey HAS to be there, cindy? not so much and yet she insists on trying to get attention that rightfully is caseys. I know this is rambling but I am tired of hearing how the ants love casey but never loved Caylee. I mean really? The ants love casey? I'd love to see some proof.

Hmm, maybe Casey didn't look at the Ants because she was P*d that Cindy sent that awful icky sausage-casing blouse for her to wear.

[Angel Eye]

Has anyone seen this doc? It was released on 5-18-2009

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036512/2008-0925-Recording-George-Anthony

[myownopera]

Also, it definitely will be interesting to see what motions she might start filing. I just can't see how the defense could switch gears with Casey's statements out there. MOO


I thought it very interesting when she kept saying to the reports, something to the effect "you will understand exactly when I start filing my briefs" .... you think she might be saying things will not be like they were today --- with JB???? I'm just saying!!!


MOO

[Pruddennce]

LKB looks like a slob.

well, ill fitting clothing seems to be the theme of these proceedings.

Casey keeps tugging on her shirt and LKB is dressing for a cockail party.

I dont get it. at all.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Chardonnay]

And I'll bet if anyone can save Casey from a death sentence, this is the one, but so what? LWOP is just fine.

That's what I'm hoping for. She needs to be in GP.

[crimeq]

ITA. I watched him in the background and he was smirking as LKB was talking and answering to Kathi Belich. You can't knock anyone for defending Casey, because she's entitled to a defense. But for God's sake, don't come off as a unprofessional nitwit in the process with Florida Bar allegations pending against you.

People just don't like JB. That's going to play a major factor in the trial.

Jose did come off as a clown. Even saying he was so "blessed" (I think he said) to be part of such a team (meaning high-powered). He thinks their starshine is going to beam down onto him.

I'm sure they're trying to figure out just how quickly they can get rid of him.

[really3997]

Thanks for keeping us up to date, Really :wub:

You are "really" "really" "really" appreciated.

Is the boat still showing up at the Ants?

No I was told that the Association told them no boat

[crimeq]

... yet we're all supposed to be beside ourselves with worry that the odious one gets a fair trial. Please. She's the ONLY person in this nightmare who has been/is being/will be treated fairly. Was Caylee? Were Casey's friends, boyfriends, ex's? How about the extended Plesea and Anthony families? How is this unholy mess fair to any of them? Sorry, but I have real trouble generating any enthusiasm for the concept of a fair trial for Casey Anthony. I couldn't care less. :cursing:

Excellent points, Perf. :thumbup:

[Pruddennce]

the minute I went to her webpage this morning...and her book comes up immediately, I realized why she took this case. She is including chapters on some of her more interesting cases. The Anthony's will certainly help her sell her book. They are crazy.

sammy, anyone that connects with Casey Anthony is there for only one reason.

and, IMO, 'these people' will be her downfall.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Dells]

I so agree with you.....I noticed the same thing - Ma and Pa Anthony were stricken when OC did not acknowledge their presence. They stood still, anxiously, but looking like h3ll warmed over, waiting, and were crestfallen when they were deliberately ignored!

That daughter of theirs is positively odious (thanks, Marc).

George in his interview yesterday holding that miniscule Caylee bear looked pathetic. Mentioning his and Cindy's (fake) suicide attempts was beneath contempt.

imo

With as steadfastly as The Anthony's have been standing by Casey, it is beyond cruel for her to continue to ignore them like that. Not only is she refusing to allow them visit her in jail, but she is giving them the ultimate snub by not even acknowledging them in court. Seriously, how hard would it be for her to flash them a quick smile or a little wave? :shrug: Casey is doing this deliberately to hurt them even more than she already has. Whatever Casey thinks her parents did to her to warrant this type of behavior there is no way it even comes close to the pain that Casey has caused her parents by murdering Caylee. I am no fan of George's and Cindy's, believe me, but I am continually amazed by the odiousness of this person called Casey.:thumbdown:

[crimeq]

I think if we stop using the word "love" in the same sentence with the name "Anthony," we'll be good. They have no idea about love, imo.

There's a phrase I love that I learned from a friend who was in AA. He said, alcoholics don't have relationships, they take hostages.

I think the entire Ant family is based on that. They are all each others' hostages.

[crimeq]

I know I was posting away and then came over and we are on page 12 gee whiz kids slow down..:tongue:

Not to worry, mom, I'm often the latest-night poster on the thread, catching up on all the posts left by others since signed off -- and I do a lot of talking to myself. :tonguewag:

[sunstar]

I thought it very interesting when she kept saying to the reports, something to the effect "you will understand exactly when I start filing my briefs" .... you think she might be saying things will not be like they were today --- with JB???? I'm just saying!!!


MOO

I caught that too. I guess we'll just wait and see what direction this defense starts taking. She definitely said there won't be a trial in October!

[ttcRider]

considering all the media coverage and hype of this case you would think they would all be dressed to the nines. Hair and nails done, expensive suits etc.. 'weird'

[bchand]

oh my I thought you were talking about Des!! :laugh:
You werent were you? :mellow:

Oh nooooo ttc lolol

The new death penalty qualified attorney.

[Dells]

Well according to some links that Des put on our links page, she really believes in redemption. So, she wouldn't care if Casey killed Caylee.

As long as she can change, she wants her to have that chance.

Well, redemption is all fine and dandy, but how about taking responsibility and taking the punishment for your crime? Sheesh, does she even think we need prisons any longer, or is everyone redeemable?:rolleyes: As long as everyone says that they're sorry and that they won't do it again we just allow them to go home?:shrug: That aspect of her does remind me a little bit of Jayne Weintraub, which then brings on the migraines.:sneaky:

[lizzard]

I so agree with you.....I noticed the same thing - Ma and Pa Anthony were stricken when OC did not acknowledge their presence. They stood still, anxiously, but looking like h3ll warmed over, waiting, and were crestfallen when they were deliberately ignored!

That daughter of theirs is positively odious (thanks, Marc).

George in his interview yesterday holding that miniscule Caylee bear looked pathetic. Mentioning his and Cindy's (fake) suicide attempts was beneath contempt.

imo

Does anyone know if the bear went to court today?

[crimeq]

If the above were true... this case is indeed a slam dunk.

For the prosecution. :thumbup:

I believe you are correct, Rockstar :thumbsup:

[Dovey]

There's a phrase I love that I learned from a friend who was in AA. He said, alcoholics don't have relationships, they take hostages.

I think the entire Ant family is based on that. They are all each others' hostages.

After today's court section, I don't think Casey wants to visit, or even have any eye contact with C&G. It made my day and I watched the video over and over and I never saw Casey even look at C &G.

[sunstar]

With as steadfastly as The Anthony's have been standing by Casey, it is beyond cruel for her to continue to ignore them like that. Not only is she refusing to allow them visit her in jail, but she is giving them the ultimate snub by not even acknowledging them in court. Seriously, how hard would it be for her to flash them a quick smile or a little wave? :shrug: Casey is doing this deliberately to hurt them even more than she already has. Whatever Casey thinks her parents did to her to warrant this type of behavior there is no way it even comes close to the pain that Casey has caused her parents by murdering Caylee. I am no fan of George's and Cindy's, believe me, but I am continually amazed by the odiousness of this person called Casey.:thumbdown:

Not that I feel the least bit sorry for Casey, but she doesn't realize just how lonely it will be if she doesn't have them. They're all she has left and it seems she's too blind to see it. MOO

[SandyO]

well, ill fitting clothing seems to be the theme of these proceedings.

Casey keeps tugging on her shirt and LKB is dressing for a cockail party.

I dont get it. at all.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*


I'm sure it's difficult for women the size of LKB and AL to dress smartly, but God, they both could do something about their hair! The person who provided Casey's blouse didn't realize the weight she's gained in these past months. It may have been too late to correct by the time it was discovered the blouse was waaaaaaaaay too small.

[imc_e]

considering all the media coverage and hype of this case you would think they would all be dressed to the nines. Hair and nails done, expensive suits etc.. 'weird'

I know I am. NOT. :laugh:

[crimeq]

the minute I went to her webpage this morning...and her book comes up immediately, I realized why she took this case. She is including chapters on some of her more interesting cases. The Anthony's will certainly help her sell her book. They are crazy.

Yes -- exactly -- she's promoting her book. She will have lots more buyers because of her face-time on this case.

Everybody making a buck off Caylee. :sad:

[Dovey]

I know I was posting away and then came over and we are on page 12 gee whiz kids slow down..:tongue:

My cable and internet were off from last night until after the hearing (due to Thunderstorms) but I'm trying to catch up tonight.

[Dells]

Im getting that feeling too. I DONT like her. I thought at first maybe this would be someone that would take the reigns and bring some order to this mess but no I think shes going to be as bad as or worse.

I so agree w/you. I hate to admit it, but I so dislike Casey Anthony that I don't think I would like any attorney that they brought on board to their defense team.:blushing: I guess it is a good thing that I will never have the chance to be a juror on this case seeing as I live half a country away. I'll admit I can't be impartial on this case at all. I know without a doubt that Casey is guilty. I just hope she goes down for it despite all the smoke and mirrors that her defense team will try to throw at the jurors.

[imc_e]

I'm sure it's difficult for women the size of LKB and AL to dress smartly, but God, they both could do something about their hair! The person who provided Casey's blouse didn't realize the weight she's gained in these past months. It may have been too late to correct by the time it was discovered the blouse was waaaaaaaaay too small.

AND the same grey pants at every hearing?

They look too tight too.

Thats GOTTA be uncomfortable! :smile:

[ttcRider]

I know I am. NOT. :laugh:

I even put on makeup today before watching the video! :laugh:

[Daffodil]

Thank you Richard Grund for sitting on Caylee's side of the courtroom during the hearing today.

:rose: for the Grunds






Actually, I don't think he was there to sit on Caylee's side of the room. This was the first time we have seen him in court. He was there for his son. I really don't think he will be there for the next hearing unless it involves his son again. Don't get me wrong. I'm not putting him down, but I don't think he needs to be put on a pedestal.

[djmsmom]

Jose did come off as a clown. Even saying he was so "blessed" (I think he said) to be part of such a team (meaning high-powered). He thinks their starshine is going to beam down onto him.

I'm sure they're trying to figure out just how quickly they can get rid of him.

JB will stay on the team as leader as long as he controls Casey. She's his girl. Studying to be his little para legal.

[lizzard]

Good Lord, is there ANYONE associated with this family that is capable of telling the truth?

Rick and Grandma Pleasance?? (sp)

[Dells]

Evening, missy. :wub:

Nooooo on the tape. In fact, still no decision made. To be continued. Surely this must be the video of Kennedy's assassination, as important as it seems to be. I'm so over it. Who the freak cares how she reacted? She hasn't had a single genuine reaction or spoken a single truthful word since all this began.

Oh, so true! If this tape is ever released we are all going to watch it and say "Is that it?!?!" after viewing it. With all the build up it has been getting there is absolutely no way that it will ever live up to its expectations.

[imc_e]

I even put on makeup today before watching the video! :laugh:

Ya your ahead a few hrs from me!

It came on at 7am here but I was propped up with one eye open.

WHERE are those fat and lazy bloggers/maggots then, if its not us?!!:sneaky:

[~kaRN]

yeah, she is going to kill herself if SHE has to die....but when Caylee was found dead, there were no threats of suicide made by her...me me me

Maybe she plans on holding her breath. Isn't it a ridiculous statement?? Like something a 6yo would threaten. 'Oh yeah, well if you sentence me to death I'll kill myself, that'll show you' Works either way for me. LWOP in GP works too.

[sunstar]

Yes -- exactly -- she's promoting her book. She will have lots more buyers because of her face-time on this case.

Everybody making a buck off Caylee. :sad:

That's one part I really dislike. :mad: MOO

[ttcRider]

Ya your ahead a few hrs from me!

It came on at 7am here but I was propped up with one eye open.

WHERE are those fat and lazy bloggers/maggots then, if its not us?!!:sneaky:

Ok, I confess... I was expecting a package and my UPS guy is hot!! :w00t:

[sammy62]

Has anyone seen this doc? It was released on 5-18-2009

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036512/2008-0925-Recording-George-Anthony

I've never read the doc...but I've listened to the recording of this.

[Dovey]

It's so nice to see JB choose a female DP attorney in more ways than one. Casey, LKB and now this new female will all be fighting to be the star. Oh did I forget to mention Cindy?
Seems like a very good team of females....lol and you all know about that right?

[~kaRN]

the minute I went to her webpage this morning...and her book comes up immediately, I realized why she took this case. She is including chapters on some of her more interesting cases. The Anthony's will certainly help her sell her book. They are crazy.

JB also mentioned in her introduction in court today, that she had been published for some thesis she had done on Ineffectiveness of Council in Florida and I wondered if she hadn't taken on the case because the council was sooooo inefective in this case.

[Pruddennce]

I don't know about NOT crossing Cindy, there is a definite tension. I wonder if CA was a threat to KC with regard to males acquaintences. Perhaps CA was the pants in the family, driving force, sole provider so no one ruled her domain and anyone under her roof adhered to the Queens rule. So KC now can slap her down. Now GA, he seemed to take a deep breath of dissapointment that his #10 gave no acknowledgement as she paraded out the door after court. They deserve all they have sown, JMO.
Still very sad to watch. Ms. Casey Anthony has this surreal team of legal defense, renown for their accomplishments, minus one. WHY?
Who are these lawyers stepping up to defend this OC. Are we blind, do they see innocence where we see guilt? Is this all about a movie, book a chance to up their resume? I feel I am missing something beside my brains. It's like can you top OJ, the american Idol of Lawyers show.
Time for nite nite. :scared:

Sticky, its about money and exposure. nothing else.

I still do not feel sad at all for them. they chose to lie and compromise evidence and mislead investigators.

in marches comeuppance. its about time. Cindy and Casey are psychopaths IMO. they will continue this silent battle until their deaths. its a love (love what you give me so I dont have to work) relationship and hate as well ( I hate that you degrade me every chance you get, but I enjoy the freebies)...

Casey found the well dry...that is why she went after grandmom and her account. Casey knows Cindy's weaknesses, one of which is not being able to take ownership of a negative situation.....Cindy will smooth things over because she cannot tolerate 'people' viewing her and her family in a negative light. but it eats away at her.....she covers for Casey the perp, but in the same breath she begins her deconstruction of her daughter.....

she takes her down emotionally, she berates her. and when the storm abates, she praises her, in an effort to bend casey to her will.

its an endless cycle.

right now, Casey doesnt need them. and probably will never need them again. she holds Cindy accountable for 'putting her in this situation'....and says exactly that in her jailhouse call to her mother.....*none of this would be happening if I knew where Caylee was....*

none of what? nothing was happening on June 16 going forward for an entire month....she supposedly didnt know where she was...

Casey knew exactly what happened to Caylee...that is why NOTHING WAS HAPPENING for an entire month to intrude on her life. no one knew.

once someone knew, her mother, and LE was called on the scene, (much later than my expectations), 'something' was happening and it was all Cindy's fault.

Casey is going to throw her parents under ther bus. that is why she isnt looking at them. she smiles at her new DP lawyer, but wont look at her parents.....that is because she is CONSPIRING to blame them, specifically her mother, for what she did to her own daughter, caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[really3997]

I'm sure it's difficult for women the size of LKB and AL to dress smartly, but God, they both could do something about their hair! The person who provided Casey's blouse didn't realize the weight she's gained in these past months. It may have been too late to correct by the time it was discovered the blouse was waaaaaaaaay too small.

Well now being a fluffy women myself I would have to disagree we have come a long way from the polyester tent dresses. The first step with these women is to know your size and then wear it.

[KittyMom]

I think she was granted a close up of his abilities this morning. I was shocked to see that LKB tolerate him as well as she appears to be, but with two high powered woman working side by side now, he is not going to be a major player for long.

It stikes me that both of the female attys are a lot like Cindy Anthony. I wonder how Casey will feel about having two women telling her what to do. She certainly didn't like Cindy controling her life. Now she's going to have 2 strong females controling her life and death. Interesting.

[sammy62]

With as steadfastly as The Anthony's have been standing by Casey, it is beyond cruel for her to continue to ignore them like that. Not only is she refusing to allow them visit her in jail, but she is giving them the ultimate snub by not even acknowledging them in court. Seriously, how hard would it be for her to flash them a quick smile or a little wave? :shrug: Casey is doing this deliberately to hurt them even more than she already has. Whatever Casey thinks her parents did to her to warrant this type of behavior there is no way it even comes close to the pain that Casey has caused her parents by murdering Caylee. I am no fan of George's and Cindy's, believe me, but I am continually amazed by the odiousness of this person called Casey.:thumbdown:

I'm sure the anthony's had a bad day. Casey ignored them...and so did the press. At least I didn't see any press hounding them like in the past

[imc_e]

Ok, I confess... I was expecting a package and my UPS guy is hot!! :w00t:


:ohmy: Some people have ALL the luck!

I spent the day with 2 very large ROOFERS who were working way up ladders on my roof, and can you say beeeeeeeer bellys, right out the window at my eye level. :scared:

You get the picture.

[Angel Eye]

I've never read the doc...but I've listened to the recording of this.


That was new to me I must have missed that one. Sorry for posting if all have seen the doc. Thanks for responding Sammy

[lizzard]

I thought it very interesting when she kept saying to the reports, something to the effect "you will understand exactly when I start filing my briefs" .... you think she might be saying things will not be like they were today --- with JB???? I'm just saying!!!


MOO

Wow, myown. My dyslexia has kicked in early - I read "filling my briefs", darn near did :laugh:

[really3997]

:ohmy: Some people have ALL the luck!

I spent the day with 2 very large ROOFERS who were working way up ladders on my roof, and can you say beeeeeeeer bellys, right out the window at my eye level. :scared:

You get the picture.

EWE..now I am going to have nightmares

[Pruddennce]

I'm sure it's difficult for women the size of LKB and AL to dress smartly, but God, they both could do something about their hair! The person who provided Casey's blouse didn't realize the weight she's gained in these past months. It may have been too late to correct by the time it was discovered the blouse was waaaaaaaaay too small.


are you kidding me SandyO?????? :D women their size have plenty of avenues to peruse regarding wardrobe! esp LKB who has MONEY.

but, and I must say this, you dont need to have alot of money to dress appropriately and go another size up to fit properly. unfortunately, women like LKB and this new attorney are more concerned with the size tag on their dress than what looks nice.

bugs me.

lol

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[101Spots]

well, ill fitting clothing seems to be the theme of these proceedings.

Casey keeps tugging on her shirt and LKB is dressing for a cockail party.

I dont get it. at all.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Here's the Cliff Notes version:

Clueless
Classless
Tasteless

[norwood]

Ok, I confess... I was expecting a package and my UPS guy is hot!! :w00t:
are all UPS guys hot? Mine is so hot he melts the pavement as he drives down the street. I am no spring chicken but I could serously get into this whole "Cougar" thing with him LOL

[sunstar]

It stikes me that both of the female attys are a lot like Cindy Anthony. I wonder how Casey will feel about having two women telling her what to do. She certainly didn't like Cindy controling her life. Now she's going to have 2 strong females controling her life and death. Interesting.

Very good point, KM! I also was thinking of the resentment she has for her mother and these two "mother figures" representing her. I think she was counting on her fate being in Jose's hands, which was fine with her, then the state went and spoiled her fairy tale. :wink: MOO

[imc_e]

EWE..now I am going to have nightmares

:lol:

off topic, honestly nothing against Casey but I have never seen a picture of her where she would be considered a '10'.

She's more like a 4 dressed up like a 5.

[ttcRider]

:ohmy: Some people have ALL the luck!

I spent the day with 2 very large ROOFERS who were working way up ladders on my roof, and can you say beeeeeeeer bellys, right out the window at my eye level. :scared:

You get the picture.

ewww If it makes you feel better I didnt get my package today. :crying:

[really3997]

:lol:

off topic, honestly nothing against Casey but I have never seen a picture of her where she would be considered a '10'.

She's more like a 4 dressed up like a 5.

Uh Oh don't let Cindy hear you...hammer

[ttcRider]

Wow, myown. My dyslexia has kicked in early - I read "filling my briefs", darn near did :laugh:

:laugh::crying: oh man that was funny.

[really3997]

night all the snoring has taken over the room have to go now or will never get sleep.

[Pruddennce]

Here's the Cliff Notes version:

Clueless
Classless
Tasteless

thank you 101Spots, I wish I had your gift....3 words......why cant I articulate as interestingly as you do with 3 word!

:D :D

but back to this: IMO Casey has now flushed her parents down the drain, and is allowing the lawyers to decide what is best for her defense......IMO, she told Baez 'the truth', meaning a 'new story' and it involved her mother....her mother provoked her. (not a defense that will fly, of course, Im just saying....).....there is a new and improved story and its going to be NASTY for Cindy and George.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[apothecary]

Wow, myown. My dyslexia has kicked in early - I read "filling my briefs", darn near did :laugh:
I laughed out loud at that one...Lizzie you are so witty.:thumbsup:

[MiamiNice]

Well according to some links that Des put on our links page, she really believes in redemption. So, she wouldn't care if Casey killed Caylee.

As long as she can change, she wants her to have that chance.
Bravo, bchand - I believe you've summed Andrea Lyon up beautifully! :thumbup:

[Imperfect4]

night all the snoring has taken over the room have to go now or will never get sleep.

lol really! You need to get that man one of those appliances to stop the dang snoring! :laugh:

[sammy62]

That was new to me I must have missed that one. Sorry for posting if all have seen the doc. Thanks for responding Sammy

np....I'm trying to make a file of all the court hearings. So I've been listening to a lot of video's.

[imc_e]

ewww If it makes you feel better I didnt get my package today. :crying:

yes yes it does. :laugh:

[Dovey]

[QUOTE=Pruddennce;13148803]Sticky, its about money and exposure. nothing else.

I still do not feel sad at all for them. they chose to lie and compromise evidence and mislead investigators.

in marches comeuppance. its about time. Cindy and Casey are psychopaths IMO. they will continue this silent battle until their deaths. its a love (love what you give me so I dont have to work) relationship and hate as well ( I hate that you degrade me every chance you get, but I enjoy the freebies)...

Casey found the well dry...that is why she went after grandmom and her account. Casey knows Cindy's weaknesses, one of which is not being able to take ownership of a negative situation.....Cindy will smooth things over because she cannot tolerate 'people' viewing her and her family in a negative light. but it eats away at her.....she covers for Casey the perp, but in the same breath she begins her deconstruction of her daughter.....

she takes her down emotionally, she berates her. and when the storm abates, she praises her, in an effort to bend casey to her will.

its an endless cycle.

right now, Casey doesnt need them. and probably will never need them again. she holds Cindy accountable for 'putting her in this situation'....and says exactly that in her jailhouse call to her mother.....*none of this would be happening if I knew where Caylee was....*

none of what? nothing was happening on June 16 going forward for an entire month....she supposedly didnt know where she was...

Casey knew exactly what happened to Caylee...that is why NOTHING WAS HAPPENING for an entire month to intrude on her life. no one knew.

once someone knew, her mother, and LE was called on the scene, (much later than my expectations), 'something' was happening and it was all Cindy's fault.

Casey is going to throw her parents under ther bus. that is why she isnt looking at them. she smiles at her new DP lawyer, but wont look at her parents.....that is because she is CONSPIRING to blame them, specifically her mother, for what she did to her own daughter, caylee.IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*[/QUOT[/I]

I believe you are correct Pru. I watched that video over and over and I think JB told her to look at her parents but she did not.

I finally can admit that after 55+ years my mother abused me. Now that I have finally admitted that, my mother tries to abuse my daughters and my grandchildren. It's sad, as now it is more of a jealous relationship than maybe abuse but its there.
I've always worked hard to promote my children's education, their awards and what they have done, my mother always seems to have a negative response to what I have done and what my children and grands have done. If that's not abusive an negative about your own family what is it?

[101Spots]

lol really! You need to get that man one of those appliances to stop the dang snoring! :laugh:

My appliance of choice is called "spare room." Works every time. :biggrin:

[apothecary]

thank you 101Spots, I wish I had your gift....3 words......why cant I articulate as interestingly as you do with 3 word!

:D :D

but back to this: IMO Casey has now flushed her parents down the drain, and is allowing the lawyers to decide what is best for her defense......IMO, she told Baez 'the truth', meaning a 'new story' and it involved her mother....her mother provoked her. (not a defense that will fly, of course, Im just saying....).....there is a new and improved story and its going to be NASTY for Cindy and George.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

You articulate extremely well and I agree with your theory

[legalmania]

I wasn't trying to be cruel. I was trying to convey my absolutely dead-serious belief that people have greater credibility when they dress in the expected "uniform." A white lab coat (often worn by doctors and dentists) evokes a different psychological response than the medical smocks worn by the physician/dental assistants, and the difference is even greater when compared to a chef's coat or a football jersey.

People have expectations concerning how attorneys ought to look and how the clients ought to look. "Looking the part" is important, especially in a case receiving as much media attention as this case. I thought the attorneys' clothes and makeup were OK (everyone was wearing some variety of business suit/skirted suit, which is the standard attorney "uniform") but their hairstyles detracted from their professional appearance. IMO most women over 50 - and professional women in general - probably shouldn't wear their hair long, just like they should probably avoid tight pants and/or tight blouses.

As far as male or female attorneys being fat, well, I guess maybe some of us spend a lot of time sitting at our desk working on our cases. LOL! I don't think the fat/thin issue is particularly relevant so long as the clothes fit properly and look professional.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

It matters a lot why do you think Marcia Clark spent some 90K on clothing. She knew she would be judged on what she was wearing. If your going to be in the public eye, you need to look good. I disagree with women over 50 having long hair. If you keep it in a French twist or if its well kept. My neighbor is over 50 and is a nurse her hair is down to her butt, she keeps it tied back when she works, when she goes out she wears it down and it's straight and silky smooth she really looks good.

[Imperfect4]

thank you 101Spots, I wish I had your gift....3 words......why cant I articulate as interestingly as you do with 3 word!

:D :D

but back to this: IMO Casey has now flushed her parents down the drain, and is allowing the lawyers to decide what is best for her defense......IMO, she told Baez 'the truth', meaning a 'new story' and it involved her mother....her mother provoked her. (not a defense that will fly, of course, Im just saying....).....there is a new and improved story and its going to be NASTY for Cindy and George.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


*waiting on maggot evidence....*

It would seem a combination of the OC's acting skills, Baez's seeming blind allegiance to all things odious, and Cindy's abrasive abomination of a personality have created a perfect storm in which Team Casey continues to confidently proclaim her *innocence*. I gotta believe this equates to ...

Bus
Cindy

[lizzard]

Some people have ALL the luck!

I spent the day with 2 very large ROOFERS who were working way up ladders on my roof, and can you say beeeeeeeer bellys, right out the window at my eye level. :scared:

You get the picture.

Better than plumber's butt!:laugh:

I can say that, my dad was and my brother is a plumber. They never had plumber's butt.

Way O/T, sorry.:blushing:

[imc_e]

whoah what some people have to live with..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68cPw4CoiU&NR=1

I wonder if Casey sleeps like a baby. I bet she does. No cares. :mad:

[Imperfect4]

My appliance of choice is called "spare room." Works every time. :biggrin:

Mine was a divorce. :laugh:

[Pruddennce]

Very good point, KM! I also was thinking of the resentment she has for her mother and these two "mother figures" representing her. I think she was counting on her fate being in Jose's hands, which was fine with her, then the state went and spoiled her fairy tale. :wink: MOO

sunstar, I agree with you......two women.....this is NOT going to work well for her. throws her manipulation game off.

women ask more questions. women lawyers ask even more. Baez was a bobble head, uh huh uh huh, oky doky Casey.......

connect the dots, color the whole page: not with Baez......he ummmm was working toward ummmmm, ummmm ummmm....<-----is this the type of person who is going to listen to a story and ask any questions that may be posed during cross of various witnesses?

IMO, NO. he accepted her explanations. which are not cohesive and do not make sense. and of course she lied to LE. she had 3 times to correct her statement. she chose not to.

bobble head Baez never thought past Casey's stories that are conjoined with witnesses who will testify.

and now two women who just might make an effort to put on a decent defense. shortterm IMO. in fact, LKB, doubt it. she is right up there with Baez. she gets fed forensic info from hubby but cannot anticipate answers and how to followup with appropriate questions. she is annoying and loud. thats about it. IMO or course.

the other one, she is book-happy....she might design some fancy footwork in the beginning, but it will not be a constant thruout the trial...she will falter, because this isnt about putting on the best defense for someone's life...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[MiamiNice]

Does anyone know if the bear went to court today?
Sorry I'm late in answering....phone.....

I was looking for the little critter and saw no sign of the bear.

[101Spots]

It matters a lot why do you think Marcia Clark spent some 90K on clothing. She knew she would be judged on what she was wearing. If your going to be in the public eye, you need to look good. I disagree with women over 50 having long hair. If you keep it in a French twist or if its well kept. My neighbor is over 50 and is a nurse her hair is down to her butt, she keeps it tied back when she works, when she goes out she wears it down and it's straight and silky smooth she really looks good.

Unfortunately, you *are* judged on your appearance. There are also "rules" for different situations as to appropriate dress. I can sit on my hair, but the once a year I have to go out in public I have the decency to put it up in a neat bun. At home, the critters don't care what I look like as long as I bring them food.

Love them non-judgmental critters! :biggrin:

[imc_e]

Better than plumber's butt!:laugh:

I can say that, my dad was and my brother is a plumber. They never had plumber's butt.

Way O/T, sorry.:blushing:


Ohhhhh! :laugh:

Its kind of on topic because we can see CA has been steadily gaining weight. I see it. I didn't before, but its more obvious now, or was that just the shirt? I think if it wasn't lycra NO WAY would those buttons have done up. Her clothing is so bad and I can't really see her wearing those clothes. I dont think they are her clothes and they appear to be from Good Will.

jmo

[MiamiNice]

I'm sure it's difficult for women the size of LKB and AL to dress smartly, but God, they both could do something about their hair! The person who provided Casey's blouse didn't realize the weight she's gained in these past months. It may have been too late to correct by the time it was discovered the blouse was waaaaaaaaay too small.
Macy's (popular in Florida) has a very nice plus size department. It runs the gamut from casual to business - there is no excuse for them, imo.

[SandyO]

Well now being a fluffy women myself I would have to disagree we have come a long way from the polyester tent dresses. The first step with these women is to know your size and then wear it.

I'm sorry, Really. I didn't realize how that sounded until I read it. When watching the two ladies under discussion today I was thinking that they are all about brains, not looks, but it takes a little bit of brains to know how to dress, too. I've seen many "fluffy" women beautifully dressed, and I couldn't understand why these two, knowing they'd be seen on national television, looked so downright frumpy.

[Dovey]

whoah what some people have to live with..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68cPw4CoiU&NR=1

I wonder if Casey sleeps like a baby. I bet she does. No cares. :mad:

Earplugs keep my family together plus they work wonders on planes with misbehaved children.
I never leave home without them.

[imc_e]

I think they (and the OC) should all wear matching red and white flowered muumuus. :rolleyes:

:lol: THAT is brilliant!

[101Spots]

Mine was a divorce. :laugh:

Good call. But mine is tall enough to change light bulbs, and I find him handy.

[ttcRider]

Ohhhhh! :laugh:

Its kind of on topic because we can see CA has been steadily gaining weight. I see it. I didn't before, but its more obvious now, or was that just the shirt? I think if it wasn't lycra NO WAY would those buttons have done up. Her clothing is so bad and I can't really see her wearing those clothes. I dont think they are her clothes and they appear to be from Good Will.

jmo

Is there a wardrobe dept. in the jail where you can pick out an outfit for court appearances or do you need to get your own?? I know that sounds silly but I am being serious. :confused:
Or does your lawyer buy you clothes and tacks it on your bill...

[legalmania]

Maybe she plans on holding her breath. Isn't it a ridiculous statement?? Like something a 6yo would threaten. 'Oh yeah, well if you sentence me to death I'll kill myself, that'll show you' Works either way for me. LWOP in GP works too.

Well she'll have 10 to 15 years to plan between appeals and delays and thats if an inmate doesn't get to her first.

[Imperfect4]

Ohhhhh! :laugh:

Its kind of on topic because we can see CA has been steadily gaining weight. I see it. I didn't before, but its more obvious now, or was that just the shirt? I think if it wasn't lycra NO WAY would those buttons have done up. Her clothing is so bad and I can't really see her wearing those clothes. I dont think they are her clothes and they appear to be from Good Will.

jmo

It's been steady, imo. The last couple appearances it has shown up primarily in her backside, but it's spreading rapidly now, and has actually affected the size of her arms.

Gals Casey's size (miniature) have very little, um, room to grow. They can look heavy fast when that much added weight is put on such a small frame. Even her ample curves (which are obvious even when she's at her fighting weight) aren't absorbing the extra lbs at this stage of the game.

[MiamiNice]

With as steadfastly as The Anthony's have been standing by Casey, it is beyond cruel for her to continue to ignore them like that. Not only is she refusing to allow them visit her in jail, but she is giving them the ultimate snub by not even acknowledging them in court. Seriously, how hard would it be for her to flash them a quick smile or a little wave? :shrug: Casey is doing this deliberately to hurt them even more than she already has. Whatever Casey thinks her parents did to her to warrant this type of behavior there is no way it even comes close to the pain that Casey has caused her parents by murdering Caylee. I am no fan of George's and Cindy's, believe me, but I am continually amazed by the odiousness of this person called Casey.:thumbdown:
Hi Dells.....I love your posts and totally agree, (as usual) with this one - you always say exactly what I have in my mind, but find difficult to express.

While I cannot stand Cindy and George, looking at it from Casey's side, after all they've done on her behalf, and what she has put them through, they at least deserve acknowledgement from her.

It was shocking to me, the complete lack of ANYTHING from her to them. They looked absolutely pathetic waiting there for her to look at them.

"Cruel" is the word. Her actions towards them says volumes about her incapacity to love or be grateful. Poor Caylee.

[~kaRN]

Im glad CaA snubbed the rest of the hand family in court. Maybe now theyll realize she could care less about them.

They'll twist it into something to be proud of IMO. :glare:

[Imperfect4]

Good call. But mine is tall enough to change light bulbs, and I find him handy.

Yes, I have one like that now as well. And no snoring. And he's quite cute. :thumbup:

[imc_e]

Is there a wardrobe dept. in the jail where you can pick out an outfit for court appearances or do you need to get your own?? I know that sounds silly but I am being serious. :confused:
Or does your lawyer buy you clothes and tacks it on your bill...


Now isn't that an interesting question.

To me, the clothes LOOK like they are from Good Will or a box in the back..to choose from.

I recall Cindy took clothes and snuck a find caylee bracelet in but when you stop and think about it, the clothes she has been wearing to the hearings, do NOT look like clothes she would be caught DEAD wearing.
Well maybe caught dead.

I just can't see Cindy bringing those for her to wear.

Maybe she picks them out herself from the Jail box..

[legalmania]

Unfortunately, you *are* judged on your appearance. There are also "rules" for different situations as to appropriate dress. I can sit on my hair, but the once a year I have to go out in public I have the decency to put it up in a neat bun. At home, the critters don't care what I look like as long as I bring them food.

Love them non-judgmental critters! :biggrin:

Do you get headaches from your hair? I had a friend in high school who had hair passed her butt and she said it gave her headaches.

[imc_e]

It's been steady, imo. The last couple appearances it has shown up primarily in her backside, but it's spreading rapidly now, and has actually affected the size of her arms.

Gals Casey's size (miniature) have very little, um, room to grow. They can look heavy fast when that much added weight is put on such a small frame. Even her ample curves (which are obvious even when she's at her fighting weight) aren't absorbing the extra lbs at this stage of the game.

The weight that Casey has gained is like the weight that Caylee has lost.

:thumbdown:

[ttcRider]

Now isn't that an interesting question.

To me, the clothes LOOK like they are from Good Will or a box in the back..to choose from.

I recall Cindy took clothes and snuck a find caylee bracelet in but when you stop and think about it, the clothes she has been wearing to the hearings, do NOT look like clothes she would be caught DEAD wearing.
Well maybe caught dead.

I just can't see Cindy bringing those for her to wear.

Maybe she picks them out herself from the Jail box..

Thats what I thought too, she would never wear that top, its not her style and not her size. She looked uncomfortable wearing it.

[imc_e]

Maybe her attorney picks out her clothes for her. :wub:

[101Spots]

Do you get headaches from your hair? I had a friend in high school who had hair passed her butt and she said it gave her headaches.

Only when I have to pay for shampoo!! LOL Then I remember the $ saved on hairdressers. 1 scrunchy = $2.00. Solves all the problems.

[legalmania]

Well now being a fluffy women myself I would have to disagree we have come a long way from the polyester tent dresses. The first step with these women is to know your size and then wear it.

I would suggest not going to Walmart to pick out your clothing. It pays to go to one of the better stores who will help you pick out something that makes you look professional.

[Imperfect4]

Maybe her attorney picks out her clothes for her. :wub:

I'm pretty sure she's appeared in court in that top before. And it's cut similarly to the skin tight blouse she was wearing en route to Jose's office with her "media" binder back in the day. Remember that photo? I think it's probably her blouse 15 or 20 pounds ago.

[ttcRider]

Maybe her attorney picks out her clothes for her. :wub:

Just think, by time we get to trial she can wear their hand-me-downs!!! :w00t:
sorry, that wasn't nice.:punch: I'm still bitter about this morning.

[Dovey]

Seeing Cindy's face today when Casey did not even look at her makes me wonder what does Cindy think Caylee looked like when she took her last breath of air?

[Pruddennce]

It's been steady, imo. The last couple appearances it has shown up primarily in her backside, but it's spreading rapidly now, and has actually affected the size of her arms.

Gals Casey's size (miniature) have very little, um, room to grow. They can look heavy fast when that much added weight is put on such a small frame. Even her ample curves (which are obvious even when she's at her fighting weight) aren't absorbing the extra lbs at this stage of the game.

the jail diet is not good of course. however, IMO, she was told it is a 'good thing' to look overly healthy, as opposed to the 'hot body contest' persona.

I see she discarded the bun.....they will have plenty of time to decide which will be better: up do, or down do, both of which have their drawbacks. one keeps her hands away from her primping, the other gives her appearance a 'harsh look', even with a pen in hand.

but aside from the 'look', the evidence will speak for this murdered child, Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

[crimeq]

No I was told that the Association told them no boat

:thumbup: Good for the Association. Poor Ants, nothing is going their way :biggrin:

[legalmania]

Only when I have to pay for shampoo!! LOL Then I remember the $ saved on hairdressers. 1 scrunchy = $2.00. Solves all the problems.

Brushing it must be a job.

[lizzard]

Ohhhhh! :laugh:

Its kind of on topic because we can see CA has been steadily gaining weight. I see it. I didn't before, but its more obvious now, or was that just the shirt? I think if it wasn't lycra NO WAY would those buttons have done up. Her clothing is so bad and I can't really see her wearing those clothes. I dont think they are her clothes and they appear to be from Good Will.

jmo

Easy on the GoodWill. When my kid was little, that's where we did all our wardrobe shopping. Then he discovered brand names. Heavy sigh. Still got them at GW, just fewer choices, and he no longer went with me!

[crimeq]

sammy, anyone that connects with Casey Anthony is there for only one reason.

and, IMO, 'these people' will be her downfall.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Casey has used people her whole life. Now other people are using Casey. Poetic justice ....

[MiamiNice]

It's so nice to see JB choose a female DP attorney in more ways than one. Casey, LKB and now this new female will all be fighting to be the star. Oh did I forget to mention Cindy?
Seems like a very good team of females....lol and you all know about that right?
This is such a good observation! Just when Casey thought she was rid of Cindy - now she has not one, but 2 bossy females telling her what to do!

[ttcRider]

I wonder what she will look like with corn-rows??
I know, I know... ttc just let it go!! :blushing:

[101Spots]

Brushing it must be a job.

Good conditioner = No problem.

And DH thinks its sexy. :thumbsup:

[norwood]

Now isn't that an interesting question.

To me, the clothes LOOK like they are from Good Will or a box in the back..to choose from.

I recall Cindy took clothes and snuck a find caylee bracelet in but when you stop and think about it, the clothes she has been wearing to the hearings, do NOT look like clothes she would be caught DEAD wearing.
Well maybe caught dead.

I just can't see Cindy bringing those for her to wear.

Maybe she picks them out herself from the Jail box..
I doubt there is a "jail box of clothes". I have never seen one in all my years of dealing with defendants and getting them ready for court. What we have done in the past is ask them their sizes and go to Wal Mart and buy them something to wear to court right down to their shoes and socks. The family of the prisoner can bring them clothes if they wish.

[Imperfect4]

the jail diet is not good of course. however, IMO, she was told it is a 'good thing' to look overly healthy, as opposed to the 'hot body contest' persona.

I see she discarded the bun.....they will have plenty of time to decide which will be better: up do, or down do, both of which have their drawbacks. one keeps her hands away from her primping, the other gives her appearance a 'harsh look', even with a pen in hand.

but aside from the 'look', the evidence will speak for this murdered child, Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

Well, then they need to dress their overly healthy client in some matronly clothes that don't emphasize every last inch of her boobage and her bottom. I used the word obscene earlier to describe her look in those clothes. Someone else said she looked like an aging hooker. It's not good, no matter how you describe it. If they want her to gain weight, they need to dress her for the part. The very last thing in the world I want to see in such detail is that female's ample posterior. Ugh.

[MiamiNice]

It stikes me that both of the female attys are a lot like Cindy Anthony. I wonder how Casey will feel about having two women telling her what to do. She certainly didn't like Cindy controling her life. Now she's going to have 2 strong females controling her life and death. Interesting.
Ha! I didn't see your post and I just replied almost the same thing!! Can't get too much past us IS posters! :thumbsup:

[101Spots]

I wonder what she will look like with corn-rows??
I know, I know... ttc just let it go!! :blushing:

Eeeeeewwwwwwwwww.........

Bo Derek she ain't.

[~kaRN]

"Huge waste" tonight!!! The only thing that was interesting was seeing Casey fidgeting with her tight clothes when she stood up. :laugh:

Absolutely!:biggrin:

[imc_e]

All I know, with virtual certainty, that she didn't pick those clothes for herself.

[lizzard]

Good call. But mine is tall enough to change light bulbs, and I find him handy.

I just stand on a chair. Much less hassle, and the chair doesn't leave clothes all over the floor or the toilet seat up :thumbup:

[Dovey]

"Huge waste" tonight!!! The only thing that was interesting was seeing Casey fidgeting with her tight clothes when she stood up. :laugh:

I think it was seeing how Casey ignored both C&G today in court. It made my day.

Edit to add
I loved C & G face when Casey ignored them in court today.

[imc_e]

I doubt there is a "jail box of clothes". I have never seen one in all my years of dealing with defendants and getting them ready for court. What we have done in the past is ask them their sizes and go to Wal Mart and buy them something to wear to court right down to their shoes and socks. The family of the prisoner can bring them clothes if they wish.


So they can go and buy her appropriate clothes for court OR they can bring her clothes..

And someone brings her baaaad clothes. Too funny.

Thanks for the info. :smile:

[ttcRider]

I just stand on a chair. Much less hassle, and the chair doesn't leave clothes all over the floor or the toilet seat up :thumbup:

They are just trying to make us jealous Lizzard, don't listen to them. :mad:
I happen to LOVE risking life and limb to change my bulbs.

[Dovey]

All I know, with virtual certainty, that she didn't pick those clothes for herself.

Maybe Cindy couldn't find anything except that blue/purple or the black dress and high boots in Casey's closet.

[Oregongal]

Has anyone seen this doc? It was released on 5-18-2009

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036512/2008-0925-Recording-George-Anthony

Hi all :seeya:
I've been trying to catch up and came across this. I totally forgot about this.
I remember I started listening the recording and for some reason got inturupted and never went back. So I just read this transcript. My big question is...do we know if George ever did meet with Casey in private?
My dd got me a new mouse, so I'm not struggling with the touch pad on the laptop tonight. Pretty cool, it's a wireless.

[crimeq]

It stikes me that both of the female attys are a lot like Cindy Anthony. I wonder how Casey will feel about having two women telling her what to do. She certainly didn't like Cindy controling her life. Now she's going to have 2 strong females controling her life and death. Interesting.

Interesting point, indeed ....

Casey likes interacting with Jose. I think having two women lawyers step up front in her case may unsettle her a little.

On the other hand, I wonder how she feels when she's in court, and her lawyers are leaning over her to talk, like she's not even there. I wonder if she feels insignificant in her own case, her own life.

[101Spots]

I just stand on a chair. Much less hassle, and the chair doesn't leave clothes all over the floor or the toilet seat up :thumbup:

10 foot ceilings. Short Spots + step ladder = exercise in futility.

He followed me home and he's cute. What can I say?

[ttcRider]

So they can go and buy her appropriate clothes for court OR they can bring her clothes..

And someone brings her baaaad clothes. Too funny.

Thanks for the info. :smile:

ohhhh would I love to be an inmate shopper! I wouldn't even care if it didn't pay well!! Yup, thats what I picked out for ya, hurry put it on! :laugh:

[norwood]

So they can go and buy her appropriate clothes for court OR they can bring her clothes..

And someone brings her baaaad clothes. Too funny.

Thanks for the info. :smile:

Defence attorneys most often "clean up" their clients appearance for court. Even court appointed attorneys do that. Who ever is supplying her clothes for court is not doing her any favors.

[~kaRN]

Can all of these attorneys work for her pro-bono if they choose?

I don't see why not. I'd like to know who'll foot all the bills for experts etc though. It's one thing to agree to testify for a murderer and another to have to pay out of your own pocket and fly across the country to do so.

[legalmania]

well, ill fitting clothing seems to be the theme of these proceedings.

Casey keeps tugging on her shirt and LKB is dressing for a cockail party.

I dont get it. at all.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

Didn't Casey look like she was wearing pants from one of the guards. Maybe the pants they brought her didn't fit so she had to use one of the guards pants?

[PROPROS]

I think it was seeing how Casey ignored both C&G today in court. It made my day.Evening all...ITA...Just shows that she doesn't give a zip about the only family she has left.. If Lee showed up, what kind of a reaction he would get from the OC..mo

[need2no]

I doubt there is a "jail box of clothes". I have never seen one in all my years of dealing with defendants and getting them ready for court. What we have done in the past is ask them their sizes and go to Wal Mart and buy them something to wear to court right down to their shoes and socks. The family of the prisoner can bring them clothes if they wish.


This is from the Broward County Inmate Handbook, but I would imagine the other jails operate in a similiar manner. Of course Baez asked for, and received permission for casey to wear 'court clothes' to the hearings.


CLOTHING:
Court clothes are only accepted before your jury trial. If you are scheduled for a jury trial, you may have court clothes brought to the facility in which you are housed.

You are limited to storing one (1) set of court clothing in the property room, unless special provisions are made by your attorney and approval is received from the Department of Detention. At no time is court clothing allowed to be stored in your cell. The Inmate Property Unit is responsible for approving court clothing requests. Sneakers and boots are not accepted as court clothing.

Court clothes may be delivered to the DOD facility, where you are being housed, twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven days a week.

You may obtain your court clothing on the evening before your court appearance by letting the alpha shift deputyknow that you are required to wear court clothes in the morning. Court clothing cannot be borrowed or exchanged. Personal court clothing cannot be worn except during the time you are in court for a jury trial.
Violation of this rule may result in disciplinary action.

[Oregongal]

It's so nice to see JB choose a female DP attorney in more ways than one. Casey, LKB and now this new female will all be fighting to be the star. Oh did I forget to mention Cindy?
Seems like a very good team of females....lol and you all know about that right?

I kinda had a feeling JB would bring in a female.
I'm sort of impressed with her. She seemed very professional and well spoken at the after hearing media interview, but, I also have my reservations. I heard a bit too much double speak from her as well.
I'm wondering how long JB will last with the pool of estrogen surrounding him and his ego.
:sneaky:

[101Spots]

Interesting point, indeed ....

Casey likes interacting with Jose. I think having two women lawyers step up front in her case may unsettle her a little.

On the other hand, I wonder how she feels when she's in court, and her lawyers are leaning over her to talk, like she's not even there. I wonder if she feels insignificant in her own case, her own life.

I don't think she does. If it were not for *her* these people would not be here. The circus is all her doing, everything revolves around her.

Yup, still the Center of the Universe. Until they haul her away permanently.

[imc_e]

Maybe Cindy couldn't find anything except that blue/purple or the black dress and high boots in Casey's closet.


This jacket didn't come from her wardrobe closet either.


http://origin.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,486406,00.html?sPage=fnc/ontherecord/caylee

[norwood]

Nice reading and posting with everyone today. Work tomorrow and we are in trial prep so my weekend is gone before I know it and trial next week. I will try to peek in at the board daily to keep up and if anything important happens someone yell loudly at me please?

[101Spots]

This is from the Broward County Inmate Handbook, but I would imagine the other jails operate in a similiar manner. Of course Baez asked for, and received permission for casey to wear 'court clothes' to the hearings.


CLOTHING:
Court clothes are only accepted before your jury trial. If you are scheduled for a jury trial, you may have court clothes brought to the facility in which you are housed.

You are limited to storing one (1) set of court clothing in the property room, unless special provisions are made by your attorney and approval is received from the Department of Detention. At no time is court clothing allowed to be stored in your cell. The Inmate Property Unit is responsible for approving court clothing requests. Sneakers and boots are not accepted as court clothing.

Court clothes may be delivered to the DOD facility, where you are being housed, twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven days a week.

You may obtain your court clothing on the evening before your court appearance by letting the alpha shift deputyknow that you are required to wear court clothes in the morning. Court clothing cannot be borrowed or exchanged. Personal court clothing cannot be worn except during the time you are in court for a jury trial.
Violation of this rule may result in disciplinary action.

I don't remember seeing a jury today. Anyone?

[legalmania]

Eeeeeewwwwwwwwww.........

Bo Derek she ain't.

How about the haircut business in the front party in the back?

[imc_e]

ohhhh would I love to be an inmate shopper! I wouldn't even care if it didn't pay well!! Yup, thats what I picked out for ya, hurry put it on! :laugh:

Thats nasty! :lol:

Thanks Norwood for the court clothing information.

Its very interesting.

[lizzard]

10 foot ceilings. Short Spots + step ladder = exercise in futility.

He followed me home and he's cute. What can I say?

3 words: puppy, extension, ladder.

j/k, they are nice to have around sometimes. Just not all the time.:tonguewag:

[Oregongal]

:laugh: I love you, Lenny!

Hi sweetie Pooh.
I LOL'd out loud with his comment on NG tonight.
So fitting and he's got Casey figured down to the t.
Won't she be embarrassed when and if it comes to that finality of laying on that table wearing a diaper and being strapped down so she can't fluff her hair.
I'm wondering, do they by law have to have the curtains open so the people who are there to witness the execution can be witnesses, or does she have the choice of having those curtains closed?
If she has a choice, I'm betting she chooses them to be closed.

[Dovey]

So they can go and buy her appropriate clothes for court OR they can bring her clothes..

And someone brings her baaaad clothes. Too funny.

Thanks for the info. :smile:

Buy her clothes?
C&G know she is guilty and will be locked away for life, they don't want to spend their hard earned donation $ on Casey.
They need it for themselves.

[101Spots]

How about the haircut business in the front party in the back?

I guess we should be thankful she doesn't have a JVM 1982 'do!


Morning comes early around here. Night all!

[ttcRider]

Thats nasty! :lol:

Thanks Norwood for the court clothing information.

Its very interesting.

too much?? :laugh:

[imc_e]

Buy her clothes?
C&G know she is guilty and will be locked away for life, they don't want to spend their hard earned donation $ on Casey.
They need it for themselves.

Thats evident in the clothes she is wearing.

Last laugh must go to Cindy then. :unsure:

[diamond]

Didn't Casey look like she was wearing pants from one of the guards. Maybe the pants they brought her didn't fit so she had to use one of the guards pants?

She has gained so much weight her clothes are too tight. Cindy needs to buy her something that fits.

I was surprised at how large Casey has gotten in the past couple of months.

[imc_e]

too much?? :laugh:

Naa s'good.

I think the whole court system is a money machine. $$$$

Crime, murder in particular, also appears to pay well. :confused:

[need2no]

I don't remember seeing a jury today. Anyone?


After the 1st, (or maybe it was the 2nd) hearing where casey was brought in court wearing the jail garb, Baez requested the court allow casey to dress in street clothes for the hearings, and Strickland gave the ok. We were all having a hissy about her getting special treatment from the court.

[PROPROS]

I guess we should be thankful she doesn't have a JVM 1982 'do!


Morning comes early around here. Night all!(LOL)...She has that "mullet" style going on...Noticed she did get a new streak job on her hair...mo

[imc_e]

Cindy was wearing that jacket and holding a teddy bear in a picture in front of a church several months ago. Cindy is probably sending her clothes from home like the clothes she sent to the jail by Baez with a bracelet hidden in the sock. Get with it, Cindy, Casey is finally a 10- size that is.

Oh, thanks I didn't know that!

And..Caseys finally a 10 :laugh: too funny!

[lizzard]

This is from the Broward County Inmate Handbook, but I would imagine the other jails operate in a similiar manner. Of course Baez asked for, and received permission for casey to wear 'court clothes' to the hearings.


CLOTHING:
Court clothes are only accepted before your jury trial. If you are scheduled for a jury trial, you may have court clothes brought to the facility in which you are housed.
You are limited to storing one (1) set of court clothing in the property room, unless special provisions are made by your attorney and approval is received from the Department of Detention. At no time is court clothing allowed to be stored in your cell. The Inmate Property Unit is responsible for approving court clothing requests. Sneakers and boots are not accepted as court clothing.

Court clothes may be delivered to the DOD facility, where you are being housed, twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven days a week.

You may obtain your court clothing on the evening before your court appearance by letting the alpha shift deputyknow that you are required to wear court clothes in the morning. Court clothing cannot be borrowed or exchanged. Personal court clothing cannot be worn except during the time you are in court for a jury trial.
Violation of this rule may result in disciplinary action.
my bold

I'm lost. :blink: So there was no jury, were those prison clothes???

[PROPROS]

Cindy was wearing that jacket and holding a teddy bear in a picture in front of a church several months ago. Cindy is probably sending her clothes from home like the clothes she sent to the jail by Baez with a bracelet hidden in the sock. Get with it, Cindy, Casey is finally a 10- size that is.If my poor eyes didn't deceive me, Cindy was wearing green today...Too bad Casey didn't notice..mo

[ttcRider]

Cindy was wearing that jacket and holding a teddy bear in a picture in front of a church several months ago. Cindy is probably sending her clothes from home like the clothes she sent to the jail by Baez with a bracelet hidden in the sock. Get with it, Cindy, Casey is finally a 10- size that is.

I use to love dressing up in my moms clothes..... when I was 5!! Talk about a kick in the teeth. haha

[Dells]

You know that little juvenile presser the "team" gave. They were all smirking and hiding behind Lyons now that I look back at it. They think she's their secret weapon. Especially TOOOODD! (Does anyone remember the Gilda Radner and Bill Murray skit were he was TOOOODD with those big blue rayon pants were pulled almost under his armpits)

This guy has nothing to do with DP and is there for I guess a "reconstruction" and he jumps in blathering "So why did they put the DP back on the table huh huh huh, ask them, ga head, I'm not worried" - woooooosh. (ok I paraphrased) What an IDIOT! But all of them snickering, cocky, they were pathetic!

:lol:LOL! I can't get that image out of my brain now. Every time I see Casey's attorney, Todd M., I am going to think of that SNL skit!:laugh:

[Dovey]

This is from the Broward County Inmate Handbook, but I would imagine the other jails operate in a similiar manner. Of course Baez asked for, and received permission for casey to wear 'court clothes' to the hearings.


CLOTHING:
Court clothes are only accepted before your jury trial. If you are scheduled for a jury trial, you may have court clothes brought to the facility in which you are housed.

You are limited to storing one (1) set of court clothing in the property room, unless special provisions are made by your attorney and approval is received from the Department of Detention. At no time is court clothing allowed to be stored in your cell. The Inmate Property Unit is responsible for approving court clothing requests.

Sneakers and boots are not accepted as court clothing.

Court clothes may be delivered to the DOD facility, where you are being housed, twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven days a week.

You may obtain your court clothing on the evening before your court appearance by letting the alpha shift deputyknow that you are required to wear court clothes in the morning. Court clothing cannot be borrowed or exchanged. Personal court clothing cannot be worn except during the time you are in court for a jury trial.
Violation of this rule may result in disciplinary action.

My bold,
Now I see why we didn't see those boots in court.
Ty for the info.

[PROPROS]

I use to love dressing up in my moms clothes..... when I was 5!! Talk about a kick in the teeth. hahaI think it would be fitting for Casey to show up with the purple dress (push-up bra) and boots...Show her true colors...mo

[crimeq]

This is such a good observation! Just when Casey thought she was rid of Cindy - now she has not one, but 2 bossy females telling her what to do!

And they will really tell her what to do. This is no longer about, "Casey, go to your room", but about, "Casey, go to the death chamber!"

[legalmania]

I don't remember seeing a jury today. Anyone?

There still hashing out pre trial motions. I don't know about jury selection because I thought he wanted the trial moved?

[need2no]

my bold

I'm lost. :blink: So there was no jury, were those prison clothes???

I'm so sorry...I seem to have confused many here.

Let me try to make sense of this-

IIRC, after the 1st or 2nd hearing where casey showed up in court wearing the normal jail garb, Baez requested the court allow casey to wear street clothes to future hearings since this was such a high profile case attracting attention from the public and potential jurors. Strickland gave special permission for casey to wear street clothes to the hearings.

[need2no]

My bold,
Now I see why we didn't see those boots in court.
Ty for the info.

YW!

Actually I think LE has possession of casey's lovely boots. :cool:

[Dovey]

I'm so sorry...I seem to have confused many here.

Let me try to make sense of this-

IIRC, after the 1st or 2nd hearing where casey showed up in court wearing the normal jail garb, Baez requested the court allow casey to wear street clothes to future hearings since this was such a high profile case attracting attention from the public and potential jurors. Strickland gave special permission for casey to wear street clothes to the hearings.

Then Casey went to court in a suit and JB said how Casey's looks and clothing was the topic of the court hearing. Then JB must have down
played her clothes, hair, etc,.

[legalmania]

Well Caylee it's time for me to say goodnight you go play baby girl and remember how much you are loved and missed and justice will be yours.

----------------
Now playing: Mariah Carey - Hero (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/mariah_carey/track/hero)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

[PROPROS]

YW!

Actually I think LE has possession of casey's lovely boots. :cool:Oh yes, along with all those flip flops and Casey's "work" shoes.:wink:mo

[Dells]

Not that I feel the least bit sorry for Casey, but she doesn't realize just how lonely it will be if she doesn't have them. They're all she has left and it seems she's too blind to see it. MOO

Exactly. Where are her lawyers going to be once she is convicted and all of her appeals are exhausted and she has the rest of her life sitting in prison to look forward to? They will have moved on to bigger and better things and the only people she will have left are her parents and her brother. If she continues to treat her parents in such a cruel manner, they may not be there to visit her in prison. She really will have no one to comfort her except for herself then.:sneaky:

[lizzard]

I'm so sorry...I seem to have confused many here.

Let me try to make sense of this-

IIRC, after the 1st or 2nd hearing where casey showed up in court wearing the normal jail garb, Baez requested the court allow casey to wear street clothes to future hearings since this was such a high profile case attracting attention from the public and potential jurors. Strickland gave special permission for casey to wear street clothes to the hearings.

Gotcha. Thanks :thumbsup:

[PROPROS]

Baez is saving her favorite purple outfit for the jury trial. She probably will need a mu-mu by the time the trial comes around. As a poster said, all matching mu-mus for the Defense Team Casey.Well this dream team will never see a best dressed list thats for sure..mo

[need2no]

Then Casey went to court in a suit and JB said how Casey's looks and clothing was the topic of the court hearing. Then JB must have down
played her clothes, hair, etc,.


I don't know...I'm guessing JB just told Cindy to send something nice for casey to wear when they have hearings. Maybe JB should have asked his wife to pick out something appropriate for casey to wear to court, instead of vindictive Cindy.

[Oregongal]

It matters a lot why do you think Marcia Clark spent some 90K on clothing. She knew she would be judged on what she was wearing. If your going to be in the public eye, you need to look good. I disagree with women over 50 having long hair. If you keep it in a French twist or if its well kept. My neighbor is over 50 and is a nurse her hair is down to her butt, she keeps it tied back when she works, when she goes out she wears it down and it's straight and silky smooth she really looks good.

Hi legal, I happen to be over 50 with hair almost to my waist. You saved yourself when you wrote the next couple of sentences tho. :biggrin:
Because I do know the appropriate times to wear it long and natural and well cared for and when to wear it up or in a french braid or tied back.
It also happens to be softly naturally curly which helps.
LKB and AL seem not to have any style with their hair and certainly have had no instruction on when and where to wear their sort of long hair in the appropriate setting. I, even as an observer would not wear my hair that way.
If I was an attorney or witness, now way. I'm one who believes that there is a certain decorum to be followed in a courtroom.
At my divorce hearing I was dressed in a skirt, nice blouse and hose and real shoes, not sandles or boots. My attorney was of course all deck out in a very nice suit. My witness showed up nicely and accordingly dressed, even tho they weren't called except for my dd, who was also in a dress.
My ex, who had no attorney showed up in jeans, sweater and cowboy boots. If that wasn't bad enough, he sat slouched in his chair and didn't stand when addressing the judge. Poor, poor judgement on his part. You could almost feel the judge reacting to his disrespect. And he didn't address Mr. ___ as nicely and as respectfully as he did me or my attorney.
If Casey continues to show up in these bosom popping blouses, is the judge within his rights to demand she wear something more appropriate?
I know, I have alot of questions tonight, but all this talk about Casey's, LKB and AL appearance have made me think about what I think a code of appearence in court should be.
I know one of the judges in our county will expell anyone wearing jeans, whether they be plantiffs, defendants, witnesses, attorneys.
Just wondering if judges to have that 'power' to demand proper attire, etc. in all juristitions? Or does it really just depend on the judge, no matter what state or juristiction? My enquiring mind wants to know.
:wink:

[SandyO]

I don't know...I'm guessing JB just told Cindy to send something nice for casey to wear when they have hearings. Maybe JB should have asked his wife to pick out something appropriate for casey to wear to court, instead of vindictive Cindy.

I don't imagine Mrs. Baez is feeling very benevolent toward Casey either.

[PROPROS]

Exactly. Where are her lawyers going to be once she is convicted and all of her appeals are exhausted and she has the rest of her life sitting in prison to look forward to? They will have moved on to bigger and better things and the only people she will have left are her parents and her brother. If she continues to treat her parents in such a cruel manner, they may not be there to visit her in prison. She really will have no one to comfort her except for herself then.:sneaky:She is short sighted and IMO really thinks she is going to be found not guilty...Perhaps all these experts and high powered lawyers,are giving her a false sense of security...She may have a great defense team....But, that doesn't change the facts of the case...31 days and partying like she didn't have a care in the world...Not to mention No Zanny and so many stories and lies..ectmo

[PROPROS]

Flip Flops - you know all those shoes LE took from her closet to test for soil from the swamp where Casey threw Caylee's body? Well, all the girls I know at that age wear flip-flops with their short shorts. She probably threw them away after her trip to the swamp or left them at TonE's. She was wearing shorts in the pic with Tony at the video store on the 16th.She does love her flip flops (I do too)...Wouldn't surprise me if she trashed them or left them somewhere...After all, it was summer and she was saving her good shoes and boots for Fusion..mo

[Dells]

I think they (and the OC) should all wear matching red and white flowered muumuus. :rolleyes:

Heck, make it the new "Dream Team" uniform and make JB wear one too!:w00t:

[Dovey]

Hi legal, I happen to be over 50 with hair almost to my waist. You saved yourself when you wrote the next couple of sentences tho. :biggrin:
Because I do know the appropriate times to wear it long and natural and well cared for and when to wear it up or in a french braid or tied back.
It also happens to be softly naturally curly which helps.
LKB and AL seem not to have any style with their hair and certainly have had no instruction on when and where to wear their sort of long hair in the appropriate setting. I, even as an observer would not wear my hair that way.
If I was an attorney or witness, now way. I'm one who believes that there is a certain decorum to be followed in a courtroom.
At my divorce hearing I was dressed in a skirt, nice blouse and hose and real shoes, not sandles or boots. My attorney was of course all deck out in a very nice suit. My witness showed up nicely and accordingly dressed, even tho they weren't called except for my dd, who was also in a dress.
My ex, who had no attorney showed up in jeans, sweater and cowboy boots. If that wasn't bad enough, he sat slouched in his chair and didn't stand when addressing the judge. Poor, poor judgement on his part. You could almost feel the judge reacting to his disrespect. And he didn't address Mr. ___ as nicely and as respectfully as he did me or my attorney.
If Casey continues to show up in these bosom popping blouses, is the judge within his rights to demand she wear something more appropriate?
I know, I have alot of questions tonight, but all this talk about Casey's, LKB and AL appearance have made me think about what I think a code of appearence in court should be.
I know one of the judges in our county will expell anyone wearing jeans, whether they be plantiffs, defendants, witnesses, attorneys.
Just wondering if judges to have that 'power' to demand proper attire, etc. in all juristitions? Or does it really just depend on the judge, no matter what state or juristiction? My enquiring mind wants to know.
:wink:

Those are very good questions and can Casey get, or pay for hair extensions? Just a thought, as now many do have them and Casey's hair has grown alot in the past 6 months. The average hair growth is 1/4 inch per month.

I know my DD has very long hair extensions.
Just my inquiring mind.

[ttcRider]

Either LE or Baez.

Ewwww... I just grossed myself out! :scared:

Quick! think happy thoughts!

[crimeq]

Hi legal, I happen to be over 50 with hair almost to my waist. You saved yourself when you wrote the next couple of sentences tho. :biggrin:
Because I do know the appropriate times to wear it long and natural and well cared for and when to wear it up or in a french braid or tied back.
It also happens to be softly naturally curly which helps.
LKB and AL seem not to have any style with their hair and certainly have had no instruction on when and where to wear their sort of long hair in the appropriate setting. I, even as an observer would not wear my hair that way.
If I was an attorney or witness, now way. I'm one who believes that there is a certain decorum to be followed in a courtroom.
At my divorce hearing I was dressed in a skirt, nice blouse and hose and real shoes, not sandles or boots. My attorney was of course all deck out in a very nice suit. My witness showed up nicely and accordingly dressed, even tho they weren't called except for my dd, who was also in a dress.
My ex, who had no attorney showed up in jeans, sweater and cowboy boots. If that wasn't bad enough, he sat slouched in his chair and didn't stand when addressing the judge. Poor, poor judgement on his part. You could almost feel the judge reacting to his disrespect. And he didn't address Mr. ___ as nicely and as respectfully as he did me or my attorney.
If Casey continues to show up in these bosom popping blouses, is the judge within his rights to demand she wear something more appropriate?
I know, I have alot of questions tonight, but all this talk about Casey's, LKB and AL appearance have made me think about what I think a code of appearence in court should be.
I know one of the judges in our county will expell anyone wearing jeans, whether they be plantiffs, defendants, witnesses, attorneys.
Just wondering if judges to have that 'power' to demand proper attire, etc. in all juristitions? Or does it really just depend on the judge, no matter what state or juristiction? My enquiring mind wants to know.
:wink:

Think Judge Judy :wink:

[Dovey]

Think Judge Judy :wink:

Great answer, post.

[PROPROS]

Hi legal, I happen to be over 50 with hair almost to my waist. You saved yourself when you wrote the next couple of sentences tho. :biggrin:
Because I do know the appropriate times to wear it long and natural and well cared for and when to wear it up or in a french braid or tied back.
It also happens to be softly naturally curly which helps.
LKB and AL seem not to have any style with their hair and certainly have had no instruction on when and where to wear their sort of long hair in the appropriate setting. I, even as an observer would not wear my hair that way.
If I was an attorney or witness, now way. I'm one who believes that there is a certain decorum to be followed in a courtroom.
At my divorce hearing I was dressed in a skirt, nice blouse and hose and real shoes, not sandles or boots. My attorney was of course all deck out in a very nice suit. My witness showed up nicely and accordingly dressed, even tho they weren't called except for my dd, who was also in a dress.
My ex, who had no attorney showed up in jeans, sweater and cowboy boots. If that wasn't bad enough, he sat slouched in his chair and didn't stand when addressing the judge. Poor, poor judgement on his part. You could almost feel the judge reacting to his disrespect. And he didn't address Mr. ___ as nicely and as respectfully as he did me or my attorney.
If Casey continues to show up in these bosom popping blouses, is the judge within his rights to demand she wear something more appropriate?
I know, I have alot of questions tonight, but all this talk about Casey's, LKB and AL appearance have made me think about what I think a code of appearence in court should be.
I know one of the judges in our county will expell anyone wearing jeans, whether they be plantiffs, defendants, witnesses, attorneys.
Just wondering if judges to have that 'power' to demand proper attire, etc. in all juristitions? Or does it really just depend on the judge, no matter what state or juristiction? My enquiring mind wants to know.
:wink:Hi Oregongal, hope your doing well...I agree that court calls for a certain dress code...Both women looked awfull today and I'm not talking about the weight...I have been laid up with illness and a bad knee this year and gained weight myself...Larger women can look nice and professional...There is no excuse for just plain sloppy...mo

[imc_e]

If Casey continues to show up in these bosom popping blouses, is the judge within his rights to demand she wear something more appropriate?
I know, I have alot of questions tonight, but all this talk about Casey's, LKB and AL appearance have made me think about what I think a code of appearence in court should be.
I know one of the judges in our county will expell anyone wearing jeans, whether they be plantiffs, defendants, witnesses, attorneys.
Just wondering if judges to have that 'power' to demand proper attire, etc. in all juristitions? Or does it really just depend on the judge, no matter what state or juristiction? My enquiring mind wants to know.
:wink:


Thats such a good question.

Can the Judge order her back into jail clothes if they can't provide appropriate clothing for her. This last shirt was over that line.
Shameful.

imo

[Oregongal]

Sorry, my last post was littered with mistakes, I tried to correct them before I posted and I guess I'm going to still work out some bugs....it wouldn't let me. Forgive my mistakes.
Still trying to get the hang of this thing.
:ohmy:

[Dick Tracy]

**respectfully snipped**

Casey is going to throw her parents under ther bus. that is why she isnt looking at them. she smiles at her new DP lawyer, but wont look at her parents.....that is because she is CONSPIRING to blame them, specifically her mother, for what she did to her own daughter, caylee.
IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence......*

My oh my. :ohmy:

You took my breath away with that last statement, which I have bolded. You are a marvelous writer..

Conspiring against her own mother. Oh my God. Didn't we hear Jessie Grund say one time that Casey was a diabolical liar?

di-a-bol-ic
–adjective
1. having the qualities of a devil; devilish; fiendish; outrageously wicked: a diabolic plot.
2. pertaining to or actuated by a devil.

The "look what you made me do" defense.

Makes me wonder what kind of story line this new defense lawyer is going to weave into their defense case. You want to see Cindy flip out? Watch her reaction when, during opening statements, they lay that theory/story out to the jury.

KING: DIABOLICAL.

[PROPROS]

Those are very good questions and can Casey get, or pay for hair extensions? Just a thought, as now many do have them and Casey's hair has grown alot in the past 6 months. The average hair growth is 1/4 inch per month.

I know my DD has very long hair extensions.
Just my inquiring mind.Here in LA...The county jail makes the women remove hair extensions...Contraband can be stored ect...They do have a beauty salon (run by inmates) so you can pay to have your hair cut or styled for court.mo

[nothingnew]

Hmm, maybe Casey didn't look at the Ants because she was P*d that Cindy sent that awful icky sausage-casing blouse for her to wear.

I'm sure that is not racking up any heart stickers for cindy's memoir from her daughter. I just think that if I were as ignorant and psycho as casey appears to be then I would be very angry at cindy for trying to horn in on my "production". Even though she did a terrible job of it, killing and disposing of Caylee was the most "work" casey has accomplished to date, and now she has her lifelong "competition" (cindyant) cashing in on all of her "work". george and cindy HAVE to keep some sort of connection to casey-she, through the murder of Caylee, is their meal ticket-their big claim to fame and admiration from THOUSANDS. People want the ants to 'move on' but if they did then how would they have any income? Nope, to these degenerates this is their little blessing in disguise. because you know I am sure that's what their alleged pastor told them-always look for the silver lining, except they only heard the "look for the silver" part.
jmo

[need2no]

She does love her flip flops (I do too)...Wouldn't surprise me if she trashed them or left them somewhere...After all, it was summer and she was saving her good shoes and boots for Fusion..mo

No problem about the flip flops, the jail has been kind enough to issue casey a pair. :tonguewag:

[~kaRN]

Thats evident in the clothes she is wearing.

Last laugh must go to Cindy then. :unsure:

No wonder Casey won't look at her then. :laugh:

[PROPROS]

Casey getting the DP. Casey getting the DP. Casey getting the DP.

Whew. I feel better now.I couldn't believe that remark by LKB comparing Casey to Ted Bundy...Killing your child, throwing her in a snake filled woods,leaving her to rot and then partying for 31 days,seems like a real good reason to put the death penalty back on the table..mo

[lizzard]

Casey getting the DP. Casey getting the DP. Casey getting the DP.

Whew. I feel better now.

Attagirl :thumbsup:

[Dovey]

No excuse for being a large person and not dressing well. My mother is very large and 81 yrs old but she is always dressed nicely even when she goes to the grocery store or the bank...no excuse as so many stores have very stylish clothes. A few years ago my mom was a large figured model for Dress Barn ?, I think that was the store.

Tomorrow when she goes out shopping she will look and be better dressed than either female lawyers...IMO

ETA she also gets her hair done twice a week. And she lives on SS, not a lawyers salary.

[PROPROS]

No problem about the flip flops, the jail has been kind enough to issue casey a pair. :tonguewag:Yes, and they have two different styles..mo

[PROPROS]

No excuse for being a large person and not dressing well. My mother is very large and 81 yrs old but she is always dressed nicely even when she goes to the grocery store or the bank...no excuse as so many stores have very stylish clothes. A few years ago my mom was a large figured model for Dress Barn ?, I think that was the store.

Tomorrow when she goes out shopping she will look and be better dressed than either female lawyers...IMOI agree...Since my weight gain, I try even harder to make my clothes fit properly and look nice...Lane Bryant has a great selection for women who wear a plus size...mo

[Oregongal]

She has gained so much weight her clothes are too tight. Cindy needs to buy her something that fits.

I was surprised at how large Casey has gotten in the past couple of months.

I wasn't surprised at the weight gain, just the clothes she wore that were a skooch to snug.
The first thing my dd said, she better start doing some situps and push ups and whatever else she has room for in that cell of hers and cut down on her snacks otherwise she's going to be fluffly like you, meaning me... mom, before the trial comes along. Haha, dd dear. But, I understood and agreed.
I wonder if Cindy is delibratley sending her clothes she knows will not fit well on Casey now to make herself look better?

[Dovey]

I agree...Since my weight gain, I try even harder to make my clothes fit properly and look nice...Lane Bryant has a great selection for women who wear a plus size...mo

O/T but so does Kohl's and many many other clothing stores.

There seems to be confusion on why Casey clothes look terrible on her but I guess it's due to who is providing them. I'm sure with Casey's weight gain there aren't many in her closet to choose from. I do wish Casey did look better, well somewhat better.

[Oregongal]

Ha! I didn't see your post and I just replied almost the same thing!! Can't get too much past us IS posters! :thumbsup:

Hi sweet Miami, I tried to send you a pm but it said you aren't accepting pm's.
I know this is O/T, but wanted to reply to you pm.
:sad:

[spiritwolf46]

Hello all,

So, for the first time today, I went to WFTV and read up on what was said and done during the trial.

Another week before Strickland rules, is that right? SIGH!!!!!

[need2no]

I'm sure that is not racking up any heart stickers for cindy's memoir from her daughter. I just think that if I were as ignorant and psycho as casey appears to be then I would be very angry at cindy for trying to horn in on my "production". Even though she did a terrible job of it, killing and disposing of Caylee was the most "work" casey has accomplished to date, and now she has her lifelong "competition" (cindyant) cashing in on all of her "work". george and cindy HAVE to keep some sort of connection to casey-she, through the murder of Caylee, is their meal ticket-their big claim to fame and admiration from THOUSANDS. People want the ants to 'move on' but if they did then how would they have any income? Nope, to these degenerates this is their little blessing in disguise. because you know I am sure that's what their alleged pastor told them-always look for the silver lining, except they only heard the "look for the silver" part.
jmo


ITA, self serving.

Also it's standard protocol for defense attorneys to strongly urge family members to be present for all court appearances as a show of support for the defendant. This supposedly influences how jurors view the defendant. But IMO the A's are showing up because they have to as long as they are claiming they support casey and believe in her innocence, as well as for the reasons you stated.

[PROPROS]

O/T but so does Kohl's and many many other clothing stores.

There seems to be confusion on why Casey clothes look terrible on her but I guess it's due to who is providing them. I'm sure with Casey's weight gain there aren't many in her closet to choose from. I do wish Casey did look better, well somewhat better.I love Kohls...Also, Nordstroms has a great plus size dept...More expensive but beautiful clothes..I have a feeling we won't be seeing that outfit (she wore today) again..mo

[spiritwolf46]

O/T but so does Kohl's and many many other clothing stores.

There seems to be confusion on why Casey clothes look terrible on her but I guess it's due to who is providing them. I'm sure with Casey's weight gain there aren't many in her closet to choose from. I do wish Casey did look better, well somewhat better.

She could always mail shop at Cindy's fashion place, for we all know that Cindy had bigger clothes before all of this. She went on that not eating diet and only drinking water, so now she can fit in smaller sizes and the sociopath can fit in Cindy's old clothes!

It's a WIN WIN!

[PROPROS]

Hello all,

So, for the first time today, I went to WFTV and read up on what was said and done during the trial.

Another week before Strickland rules, is that right? SIGH!!!!!Night spirit, no decision yet on the video or the cell phone records for the witnesses..mo

[PROPROS]

She could always mail shop at Cindy's fashion place, for we all know that Cindy had bigger clothes before all of this. She went on that not eating diet and only drinking water, so now she can fit in smaller sizes and the sociopath can fit in Cindy's old clothes!

It's a WIN WIN!Cindy had that trusty water bottle in court today..mo

[Dick Tracy]

Dick, get out of my way Tracy, I am going to solve this case, Eagle :laugh:

King: Awesome

We've already solved this case. Casey did it. :scared:

[Oregongal]

Hi OG!

I think I'm going to have nightmares after that little description. Ewwww...

Sorry darlin, just stating the facts.
Think on something more pleasant before you go to sleep and erase those visions from your mind.
:wub:

[spiritwolf46]

Cindy had that trusty water bottle in court today..mo

OH! No doubt she did! How about the gum?

[PROPROS]

ITA, self serving.

Also it's standard protocol for defense attorneys to strongly urge family members to be present for all court appearances as a show of support for the defendant. This supposedly influences how jurors view the defendant. But IMO the A's are showing up because they have to as long as they are claiming they support casey and believe in her innocence, as well as for the reasons you stated.Poor Caylee,she has strangers and the state sitting on her side...It was nice to see Richard Grund on the states side of the court today..mo

[aproudmom]

Night everyone have a wonderful day morning what ever it is now..lol..

[aproudmom]

OH! No doubt she did! How about the gum?

I did not see any gum chewing for once thank goodness

[spiritwolf46]

Night everyone have a wonderful day morning what ever it is now..lol..

good night/morning. Sleep well!

[PROPROS]

OH! No doubt she did! How about the gum?Not sure....Don't think she was chewing gum today.She wore green and Casey did not even cast a glance toward her parents..mo

[aproudmom]

We've already solved this case. Casey did it. :scared:

gotta luv ya DT LOL:thumbsup:

[spiritwolf46]

Poor Caylee,she has strangers and the state sitting on her side...It was nice to see Richard Grund on the states side of the court today..mo

That is SO good to hear! Bet that just pizzed the A's right off!

[PROPROS]

I'm off to dreamland...Night all, sleep well...mo

[spiritwolf46]

Not sure....Don't think she was chewing gum today.She wore green and Casey did not even cast a glance toward her parents..mo

Does that woman have ANY other color than green? Oh, wait, isn't that for the murderer's love of shamrocks?

I read from here that a poster said they thought the reason for her not looking at her parents is because she will throw them under the bus. I SO agree with that!

[Susie419]

:rolleyes:I had a 15" monitor, this am it blew out, so I bought a new 19" and when I got to see todays video, I wondered, Did Casey's a$$ grow 4" wider, or is my new monitor tricking me , creating an optical illusion?:w00t:

[need2no]

Poor Caylee,she has strangers and the state sitting on her side...It was nice to see Richard Grund on the states side of the court today..mo

When I was watching casey at the hearing today I kept wondering if she even thinks about the reason she is sitting in court. It seems it's almost as if Caylee and her having murdered her doesn't even play out in casey's psycho mind.

Yes, I was also very pleased to see Richard Grund there today and sitting on the pros. side. I'm so hoping that all of casey's former 'friends' will show up at least a few days during the trial and sit behind the prosecution team.

[need2no]

That is SO good to hear! Bet that just pizzed the A's right off!

Kronk was sitting on the prosecution side also, and I bet the A's weren't thrilled to see him there.

[Dovey]

We've already solved this case. Casey did it. :scared:

And Cindy was in the computer room with the ? chock lock around Casey's neck....by gosh
We got it solved, now how did Caylee die?

[Dovey]

Where is Happy Gert? If you have a new dress please PM me and let me know as I always loved your posts and you were always a late nighter. I've missed your posts.

[spiritwolf46]

Kronk was sitting on the prosecution side also, and I bet the A's weren't thrilled to see him there.

Ya know what is sad, need2? I am willing to bet that the A's have thrown that little darling so far under the bus, back over her, went in reverse and did it again, that they would be pizzed off if the Pope, himself, sat on the Prosecution side! After all, this is NOT about Caylee at all. Never has been to them. It is about Shamrock hag and will never change.

Aren't they just horrid?

GOOD FOR KRONK and Mr. GRUND! I hope that they are there every sinlge time.

Okay all, just checking in . Going to bed now.

Thanks to all for letting me know about today's events!

Have a safe eve./morning!

:wub:

[Oregongal]

Exactly. Where are her lawyers going to be once she is convicted and all of her appeals are exhausted and she has the rest of her life sitting in prison to look forward to? They will have moved on to bigger and better things and the only people she will have left are her parents and her brother. If she continues to treat her parents in such a cruel manner, they may not be there to visit her in prison. She really will have no one to comfort her except for herself then.:sneaky:

I'm going to quote your "exactly" Dells. These lawyers she has fawning all over her right now she will probably not even see them again if she's convicted. She may have to seek out other attorneys for her appeals.
And that appeal process takes so long and she may even have a hard time finding someone to represent her. And whoever decides to represent her in that process may not be fawning over her and giving her the treatment, feeding her ego and possibly may be telling her the truth about the appeal process in a way that may freak her out.
Yes, she may think she's got it made right now with her 'dream team', but if she is convicted that team will be gone and maybe for once in her life she won't be able to manipulate them as she has so obviously been able to do with her current representitives.
She will find her self sitting and waiting for very long periods of time with no everyday contact and building her up any longer from those appeal attorney's. And may very well wish she'd treated her parents better than she has currently. Since, as you said, they may not bother to set up many visitations with her.
I still think that she's going along with the I will get away with this and walk out of here as a free woman. She has no idea what is really ahead of her and has no idea the impact of her treatment of the parents, no matter how weird they are, will kick her in the butt if it comes to that.
Burning bridges with those who love us is never a good idea. Of course, who ever said Casey had a good idea or made a good choice ever.

[nothingnew]

Didn't Casey look like she was wearing pants from one of the guards. Maybe the pants they brought her didn't fit so she had to use one of the guards pants?

I thought those were the same slacks from when she went back to jail the second time, the day of the grand jury hearing. Those pants and a white button down blouse. I know I have seen her in the blue shirt she wore today before. I think these ARE her clothes, but they're from last year when she was almost as small as Caylee-or that's what she thought anyway.

[MiamiNice]

Hi sweet Miami, I tried to send you a pm but it said you aren't accepting pm's.
I know this is O/T, but wanted to reply to you pm.
:sad:
Hope all is well, OG! They should go through, now.

O/T I was taking 3 days of mandatory clairnet lessons - politics board is brutal :sneaky:

[crimeq]

Here in LA...The county jail makes the women remove hair extensions...Contraband can be stored ect...They do have a beauty salon (run by inmates) so you can pay to have your hair cut or styled for court.mo

Can they get eyebrows plucked at the "beauty salon"? I can't figure out how Casey is keeping her eyebrows plucked unless there is "salon" service.

[need2no]

I thought those were the same slacks from when she went back to jail the second time, the day of the grand jury hearing. Those pants and a white button down blouse. I know I have seen her in the blue shirt she wore today before. I think these ARE her clothes, but they're from last year when she was almost as small as Caylee-or that's what she thought anyway.

When I 1st saw casey today I also thought she had worn that blouse in court before, but they are different, just similiar in color. The one today has a little ruffle. Here are pics of the 2 blue blouses:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/anthony-howsweetbaezandhisgirl.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/Anthony-caseytalkingtoLKBatMay28hea.jpg

Currently I don't believe she would fit in any pants she wore prior to going to jail, IMO.

[Booklover]

Casey will one day realize that she is no longer running the show.

[crimeq]

I wasn't surprised at the weight gain, just the clothes she wore that were a skooch to snug.
The first thing my dd said, she better start doing some situps and push ups and whatever else she has room for in that cell of hers and cut down on her snacks otherwise she's going to be fluffly like you, meaning me... mom, before the trial comes along. Haha, dd dear. But, I understood and agreed.
I wonder if Cindy is delibratley sending her clothes she knows will not fit well on Casey now to make herself look better?

It certainly would be game-playing, which they've thrived on in the Ant household.

[MiamiNice]

Can they get eyebrows plucked at the "beauty salon"? I can't figure out how Casey is keeping her eyebrows plucked unless there is "salon" service.
When watching the close up clips on the JVM and NG shows, I could swear Casey had false eyelashes on!! :ohmy: Is that on the commissary list as well?!

[nothingnew]

She has gained so much weight her clothes are too tight. Cindy needs to buy her something that fits.

I was surprised at how large Casey has gotten in the past couple of months.

cindy and casey don't talk in person and despite what cindy says I doubt there are letters either. So if cindy wants to take a poke at casey there are limited options available-imo what better way to stab casey then by pointing out how much weight she has gained by sending her into court with last years "hey gorgeous" clothes. Remember when cindy replied to an IS posters' email by inquiring if she was overweight? and remember when we got all of the cindy updates on how she couldn't eat and was losing weight? she was just so proud of herself. I was glad to see the slapdown of the suicide twins, good riddance.

[need2no]

Can they get eyebrows plucked at the "beauty salon"? I can't figure out how Casey is keeping her eyebrows plucked unless there is "salon" service.

Maybe she does eyebrow threading, though I never could get the hang of it.

[crimeq]

When watching the close up clips on the JVM and NG shows, I could swear Casey had false eylashes on!! :ohmy: Is that on the commissary list as well?!

I did a double-take too, Miami, but I think she was just heavily mascara-ed. She also was wearing eye liner and eye shadow.

[need2no]

When watching the close up clips on the JVM and NG shows, I could swear Casey had false eylashes on!! :ohmy: Is that on the commissary list as well?!

I was wondering about that myself as I watched the hearing today, but then I decided it must just be mascara because I doubt false lashes are sold in the commissary.

[Susie419]

They should allow them to wear stretch pants and blouses. That way, the clothes can expand with the wearer.
What's with the obsessive straightening of her hair, hand rubbing, it about drove me nuts watching her straighten herself out.
She MUST have OCD..

One more thing, Cindy is full of IT! She could visit her daughter, she doesn't have to say a freakin word, except I'm here, I love you, and hug her. This excuse that the "media will have a field day" is BS.
She & George could just visit for a show of support and a gentle touch and kind word, not discuss the case.
IMO, it's an excuse made by Cindy. I believe Casey WON'T see them because she's angry with them!

S

[MiamiNice]

I did a double-take too, Miami, but I think she was just heavily mascara-ed. She also was wearing eye liner and eye shadow.
I thought about the mascara, but the eyelashes were too thick, perfectly, closely spaced.....hmmmm.

[MiamiNice]

I was wondering about that myself as I watched the hearing today, but then I decided it must just be mascara because I doubt false lashes are sold in the commissary.
I'm going to try to find that commissary list - because they were just too perfect. Like little "fans" - anyone remember Tammy Faye Bakker?? But less exaggerated. :laugh:

[need2no]

I thought about the mascara, but the eyelashes were too thick, perfectly, closely spaced.....hmmmm.

Maybe LKB lent casey a pair of hers. I've heard of people who pull their eyelashes (and other body hair) out when they are overly stressed. Can't recall the name of the disorder.

[need2no]

I'm going to try to find that commissary list - because they were just too perfect. Like little "fans" - anyone remember Tammy Faye Bakker?? But less exaggerated. :laugh:


OMG...yes I do remember. :scared:

[MiamiNice]

Maybe LKB lent casey a pair of hers. I've heard of people who pull their eyelashes (and other body hair) out when they are overly stressed. Can't recall the name of the disorder.
Eeeek! How horrible! :scared:

[Oregongal]

Those are very good questions and can Casey get, or pay for hair extensions? Just a thought, as now many do have them and Casey's hair has grown alot in the past 6 months. The average hair growth is 1/4 inch per month.

I know my DD has very long hair extensions.
Just my inquiring mind.

I somehow think Casey can't get hair extentions. I was surprised to learn that she even buy makeup...which I noticed she was sporting eyeliner and mascara today.
Yes, her hair has grown alot. I thought that when we saw her the first time when Strickland demanded she be there and they waited for her to show up in her prison blues and was shackled the whole time.
My dd also has very long hair and has it cut once in awhile because her hair grows very fast. Mine doesn't. I think Casey's hair grows fast as fast as my dd's as well. It did look to today as if she's at least had it trimmed to be even, but I hardly think she is able to avail herself to extentions. And as someone mentioned earlier, extentions take alot of care. She certainly didn't seem comfortable with her hair since she kept smoothing and tucking, pulling it forward, as the stars do...when ever celebritities are on camera they pull their hair forward to make it seem fuller and thicker than it actually is. Casey was trying to do as they do, making it look good for the camera....the back of her head probably didn't look as thick as we saw it thru the camera view. She was playing for the camera definantly.
I bet she would be surprised at some of the screen shots our posters have shown us, there were many times that she not only looked like she was popping out of her blouse, but there were several stills of her and all I could look at were her eyes and the only thing I could think of, there is nothing there. Nobody's home. I can't do screen shots otherwise I'd try and post the few pics when I saw this.

[MiamiNice]

They should allow them to wear stretch pants and blouses. That way, the clothes can expand with the wearer.
What's with the obsessive straightening of her hair, hand rubbing, it about drove me nuts watching her straighten herself out.
She MUST have OCD..

One more thing, Cindy is full of IT! She could visit her daughter, she doesn't have to say a freakin word, except I'm here, I love you, and hug her. This excuse that the "media will have a field day" is BS.
She & George could just visit for a show of support and a gentle touch and kind word, not discuss the case.
IMO, it's an excuse made by Cindy. I believe Casey WON'T see them because she's angry with them!

S
ITA with you. This not visiting business is ridiculous. There is no need to discuss the case. Also, the Anthonys clearly have no problem being filmed and displayed on TV, evidenced by their TV interviews.

C&G can easily go there just to say, "Hi, we love you" or ask how her days are, what clothes she would like to wear to the hearing..... etc.

[need2no]

Eeeek! How horrible! :scared:

I just looked over the commissary list and the only makeup items I saw was mascara, eyeliner, and lipstick.

[nothingnew]

I love Kohls...Also, Nordstroms has a great plus size dept...More expensive but beautiful clothes..I have a feeling we won't be seeing that outfit (she wore today) again..mo

I have a feeling that we will see at least the shirt one more time-on cindy! That would get her some media attention with an added bonus of having another virtual slap at casey. cindy doesn't forget an insult, I doubt she will take this being ignored by casey without retaliating.

[Oregongal]

Think Judge Judy :wink:

LOL, I did think of her, also thought of Judge Milian of People's Court, have seen her many times tell some woman or another to put a jacket or sweater on because she was disrespecting the court with her attire.

[MiamiNice]

I just looked over the commissary list and the only makeup items I saw was mascara, eyeliner, and lipstick.
Thanks for checking it out, need! Guess Casey has nice eyelashes!

[Oregongal]

It doesn't matter what she thinks of him. She has the horsepower to kick him to the curb. He is already in hot water with the Florida Bar. Do you think that she doesn't know that Jose Baez is guilty of ineffective assistance of council. She can be his savior or his worst enemy. If Jose is smart he will get his mug and his mouth away from the cameras. I would bet that the next time there is a pleading or motion by the defense, it will be by Andrea Lyon.

ITA eagle!

[nothingnew]

When I 1st saw casey today I also thought she had worn that blouse in court before, but they are different, just similiar in color. The one today has a little ruffle. Here are pics of the 2 blue blouses:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/anthony-howsweetbaezandhisgirl.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x161/need2no/Anthony-caseytalkingtoLKBatMay28hea.jpg

Currently I don't believe she would fit in any pants she wore prior to going to jail, IMO.

Yep, you are correct! I kept flipping between the 2 pics you posted-scary! i wasn't covinced that she was not causing the ruffle because of how tight that shirt was but then I saw how the buttons on the front were. Thanks!

[need2no]

Thanks for checking it out, need! Guess Casey has nice eyelashes!


I guess she must.... but I will still wonder if LKB gave her some false lashes to wear today.


I found the name of this disorder I mentioned:

Trichotillomania, a hair-pulling disorder, is a mental disorder that involves an irresistible urge to pull out hair. This behavior occurs to the point of noticeable hair loss. The most common areas for hair pulling are the scalp, eyelashes, and eyebrows, but may involve hair anywhere on the body.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/guide/trichotillomania

[Oregongal]

Hi Oregongal, hope your doing well...I agree that court calls for a certain dress code...Both women looked awfull today and I'm not talking about the weight...I have been laid up with illness and a bad knee this year and gained weight myself...Larger women can look nice and professional...There is no excuse for just plain sloppy...mo

Am hanging in darlin PP. Thank you.
I'm on your page, it wasn't the weight it was the sloppiness that bothered me.
I've gained weight because of my medication, but you can bet I would be out shopping for the most attractive, well fitting (according to my size) if I were needed to appear in court for any reason, especially a very serious, very important DP case. And my hair would be clean, shiny and up in a proper way for my age style.

[need2no]

Yep, you are correct! I kept flipping between the 2 pics you posted-scary! i wasn't covinced that she was not causing the ruffle because of how tight that shirt was but then I saw how the buttons on the front were. Thanks!

YW!

Maybe somebody decided blue is a good color for casey. :shrug:

[MiamiNice]

I guess she must.... but I will still wonder if LKB gave her some false lashes to wear today.


I found the name of this disorder I mentioned:

Trichotillomania, a hair-pulling disorder, is a mental disorder that involves an irresistible urge to pull out hair. This behavior occurs to the point of noticeable hair loss. The most common areas for hair pulling are the scalp, eyelashes, and eyebrows, but may involve hair anywhere on the body.

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-panic/guide/trichotillomania
Thanks! Learn something new everyday - I've never heard of this one! But I think Casey loves herself too much to do this to herself.

[Dick Tracy]

And Cindy was in the computer room with the ? chock lock around Casey's neck....by gosh
We got it solved, now how did Caylee die?

I've been asking that question and not getting alot of responses to it. The "act of death" or "manner of death" haunts me.

I have four theories floating around, two of them involve accidental death, and two of them involve an actual KILL.

Either way, it smells of premeditation, and that's going to work against Casey all the way up until the verdict is read.

[nothingnew]

Maybe LKB lent casey a pair of hers. I've heard of people who pull their eyelashes (and other body hair) out when they are overly stressed. Can't recall the name of the disorder.

trichotillomania-literally "hair pulling madness".

[Oregongal]

OH! No doubt she did! How about the gum?

I saw her water bottle, but didn't see her or George chewing gum. I did notice the guy just in front of them chewing gum...very politely. Small chews, not like Cindy's cud chewing way of chewing gum.

[Dick Tracy]

Anyone got a guess how long in minutes it would take a 2.8 year old kid strapped in a car seat to die locked in a car with the engine off, windows up in the hot central Florida +90 deg midday sun?

[Oregongal]

Night everyone have a wonderful day morning what ever it is now..lol..

Good night pmom, sleep well and you have a wonderful day tomorrow too!
:wub:

[Oregongal]

I'm off to dreamland...Night all, sleep well...mo

Good night Pooh and PP, you both sleep well.
:wub:

[Dick Tracy]

Ah, my friend Tracy, "Either way, it smells of premeditation"? Premeditated accidental death? Now, you did say "either way". :confused: :smile:

Yep.. Either way. Those forensic computer searches on 3/17 kind of seal the deal there. Whether or not it was accidental death or not, googling neck breaking and chloroform aren't going to help her case one iota! :biggrin:

[Dick Tracy]

DT, I believe you think that it may have been accidental drowning. If so, why the duct tape. No reason for that if she was already deceased. Solve the duct tape issue and you will find the manner of death. IMO

That duct tape didn't go on until she was already dead. It's possible that the duct tape was wrapped around her head to make it look as though someone had else had done it. Just possible, imo.

[Dick Tracy]

DT, I believe you think that it may have been accidental drowning. If so, why the duct tape. No reason for that if she was already deceased. Solve the duct tape issue and you will find the manner of death. IMO

Accidental drowning, being left in a hot car, (where the inside temperature could easily be around 140 deg).

[MoonFlwr]

Accidental drowning, being left in a hot car, (where the inside temperature could easily be around 140 deg).

Does anyone know what a person would be charged with if they left their child in a hot car and the child died?

[Oregongal]

Hope all is well, OG! They should go through, now.

O/T I was taking 3 days of mandatory clairnet lessons - politics board is brutal :sneaky:

Gotcha! Will try the pm again.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

Ah, my friend Tracy, "Either way, it smells of premeditation"? Premeditated accidental death? Now, you did say "either way". :confused: :smile:

Sorry, I think it was premeditated and non accidental.
The only accidental I think would apply would be it was the accidental timing. She may have planned it for some other time, but that knock down, choking fight between she and Cindy triggered her premeditation to kick in sooner than she'd planned.
:sneaky: